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More people need to realize that Amy's arc in SA1 was to START chasing Sonic not to STOP
shadamy!
>>566474595Wow you know who else was in Sonic game? Sonic. How original, Blaze
Buggu~
I am once again asking for your whisper eating burger pictures
>>566474473Amy being with Sonic is her biggest dream. It would be a service to her character for that to happen>>566474627Explain how Sonic being with Amy would tie him down. I'll wait. They already spend time together and he enjoys it.>>566474703I'm not saying they need to get married soon. I'm just saying they need to be an official romantic couple and do romantic stuff together. It's not hard.
What do you think of Surge?
ahem, let's try this again*headpats your OC*
>>566474829>>566474947Maybe sonamy wouldn't be so controversial if sega didn't give her dogshit gameplay for 30 years
>>566475065She's Sonic's gf.
>>566474821Neither SA1 or SA2 were about her moving on. I'm tired of this revisionism/misconception.SA1 was about her not being a burden and being able to do things herself. SA2 was her learning she can help in her own particular way without needing others approval. it's why her bios emphasize her becoming an active girl rather than being passive.>Amy being with Sonic is her biggest dream.>>566474947>Explain how Sonic being with Amy would tie him down. I'll wait. They already spend time together and he enjoys it.In the sense that there wouldn't be a real reason for her to not always be around, and then at that point it stops being the Sonic series and becomes the Sonic&Amy series, which I don't think is good for either character.>I'm just saying they need to be an official romantic couple and do romantic stuff together.Why? That just isn't really Sonic's thing. If Sonic did do anything of the sort, it wouldn't come off as particularly romantic. Sonic isn't like that. That's Amy's thing.
*impregnates your OC*
>>566475112Would you headpat Speedo The Porcupine?
Janky momentum formula revisionism
I like game Maria more than movie Maria
>>566475163Her gameplay was good on the Advance games.
>>566475027>Amy loves Sonic because she can't get him>Amy loves the chase and doesn't care about the catchThat's not true. She loves him because of his heroism and his adventures. I don't any woman in real life who would love a guy because she can't get him. That's not how love works
>>566475250But he's a boy (male).
>>566475456*gets your OC fagpreggers*
>>566475280of course!he's quite friend-shaped
>>566474829I'm tired of people playing revisionist history and being illiterate, choosing to read it as about her getting over Sonic for no reason.She starts by being sad and bored and hoping Sonic shows up and something interesting happens again, and then gets kidnapped because she expected Sonic to be the one to help the bird. She ends by realizing that if you want something, you can make it happen yourself. She didn't need to wait for Sonic nor did she need him to have to be the one that helped birdie. That's why her bios call her "the girl who doesn't wait!" and describes her as "active".
>>566475372I like both
SA1 Sonic: Uhhh A-Aammyyy... Please get away from me... *uncomfortably walks away*SA2 Sonic: I will never marry you. *runs away* That girl is such a pain.Unleashed Sonic: Yes, shut up, I'll go on a date with you *doesn't*
>>566475372I like both. I headcanon that Maria went rollerskating with Shadow on ARK.
>>566475249In the sense that there wouldn't be a real reason for her to not always be around, and then at that point it stops being the Sonic series and becomes the Sonic&Amy series, which I don't think is good for either character.Sonic and Amy being an official couple wouldn't take away from the other characters' screen time, it would just make Sonic and Amy speak and act more intimately towards each other>Why? That just isn't really Sonic's thing. If Sonic did do anything of the sort, it wouldn't come off as particularly romantic. Sonic isn't like that. That's Amy's thing.What's stopping Sonic from feeling romantic love? Nothing. Look at how he behaved towards Amy in Frontiers. That doesn't show me he's incapable of demonstrating romantic love
What would Amy do if Blaze confided in her that she has secret feelings for Sonic? Not trying to flamebait, I'm really curious.
Shadow and Amy should become an official couple>butno buts
>>566475772The skating and guitar are fun
>>566474761Plap 2 Plap>>566474871Till it doesn't sparkle anymore>>566475065Hatefuck
>>566475679You're citing the westoid localizations that intentionally made Sonic hate Amy because the westoid localizers thought it was Sally who was supposed to be Sonic's girlfriend.In Unleashed, Sonic willingly accepted to go on a date with Amy but was unable to because he got sucked into the world of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. That was such a jerk way to prevent the date from happening on Sonic Team's part
>>566474947>Amy being with Sonic is her biggest dream.Protecting animals and defending the innocent is her dream. Has been since her Birdie days. She'll even go against Sonic to defend a clanker like Omega. Her crush on him has been blown wildly out of proportion imo.
>>566475787Based on Rush, she would get mad at her for lying about it and get territorial.Based on 06, she would be like "can't blame you, after all Sonic is just that awesome".I personally would do a mix of the two, using the latter as the base.
i will never understand why a male would ship fictional characters
>>566475992Because Sonic fucks Surge
>>566475163>>566475163Thankfully she'll get her spotlight in 20207. All those stupid critics who hated on her in the 2010s and convinced Sonic Team to make Sonic the only playable character can shut up and get lost
>>566475992I'm fucking the coon
>>566475593She needs to do more than simp for Sonic and "making things happen" shouldn't include coercing an uninterested party into dating you. She can still be her same bubbly fangirl self, it doesn't necessitate her making Sonic her boyfriend.
If you have a friend who's in love with you and determined to become your girlfriend you should just tell them it isn't going to happen because anything less is cruel
>>566475978This is bait
>>566475984I think especially now that Amy has matured a bit it would be closer to the latter, but she might get a little territorial if it looks like Sonic and Blaze are having fun together in the future. She wouldn't try to drive a wedge between them or anything, but I think she would try to cut any tension that comes up between them.
>>566475787Polish her cuck chair before sitting in it.
>>566475954What is this cope, it's literally the exact same thing in Japanese
>>566476204Sonic already did that.>Marriage? No way!
>>566476217You know you can just disagree with someone without assuming they're trying to ragebait you and specifically you.
>>566474761
>>566476175Shut up. This is exactly how Ian his gang of fanboys think. If you take away Amy's love for Sonic, you don't have Amy anymore. It's like taking away Sonic's ability to run fast
>>566475679>westfaggotry
>>566476283God damn Sonic looks so fucking cool.
DUDETAROT CARDSLMAO
>>566476204Sucks for real peopleDoesn't exist for anthropomorphic hedgehogs except for people that project their own pain onto them
>>566476283He literally says "No way" in English in the Japanese version lmao
>>566476283>>566476348I was talking about the "that girl is such a pain" line. He didn't say that in the Japanese version.
>>566476440Stealing this>>566476243I dunno why more people don't like her.
>>566475978In SA1, you could be forgiven for not even knowing she had it since it really is only played up at all with her being all "cute couples get in free, lets go" at Twinkle park when trying to evade Zero.It's there but it's not the focus on her story. The focus is her being perceived as a burden Sonic has to deal with and her taking charge of things herself. It's why she says she will get Sonic to respect her. Not in the meme "way people portray it as, but in the sense of taking her seriously as an adventuring companion, rather than just an escort mission.SA2 followed up on this. She goes to Prison Island to help bust him out of jail. She makes a joke about marriage is she tells him about Shadow "If I tell ya, will you marry me" but then she just goes all "lol teehee" and tells him anyway. Her main concern in the game was wanting to be treated as part of the squad and getting to be seen as capable and valued member of the team.It's why I don't get the people that think she lives or dies on whether she and Sonic become an item. I'm not even against it in concept. But it wasn't really the point.Yeah she also wants to win his heart and impress him and all that, but in the broadest sense, its Amy having grown enough to earn his respect as an adventurer that was her arc in SA1.
"He wouldn't do that to Sally" Ian literally said he found it cruel to make Sally fall in love with a character who is canonically not able to return the favor which is why he made her move on
>>566476442Amy can love Sonic and be his fangirl. Her becoming his official girlfriend would be the end of Amy Rose the character and the birth of an empty husk called "Sonic's Girlfriend/Wife".
>>566474761Child like body is the best
>>566476496He says she is too much for him to handle something something>pain in the assis the localization to produce the same meaning to an american since japanese do not have a "pain in the ass" in their language and americans would not perceive a direct translation the same way
>>566476445Emmy Roozu: k-kek--kekkon shite kureru?Sonic: NO WAY!!!!!
>>566476615>Her becoming his official girlfriend would be the end of Amy Rose the character and the birth of an empty husk called "Sonic's Girlfriend/Wife".Explain how it would ruin her character. She would still go on adventures with him as she's doing right now. Nothing would change
>>566476680Fuck you
>>566476617moar
>>566476175>She needs to do more than simp for SonicShe always has. You simply discount it if it exists along side her being a Sonicyume.
>>566476278
>design is a potato with sticks>goes worldwide famous
>>566476628He said in Japanese, "Well, I guess I've got no choice". The way it was localized into English was so uncalled for. It gave people the impression that Sonic hates Amy when in reality, he doesn't
>>566476442What the fuck is this video?
>>566476567Superstars did this better than any modernshit
>>566476741That is so boring the reason Team Sonic is fun is because they're all taking time out of their solitary lives to be together for an adventure. If Amy is there "as his wife" there will always be a sense of obligation to it and lack spontaneity. Not to mention the writers would only be capable of "I hate my wife" humor or "Nothing in this universe matters to me more than my wife" and both are just not right for Sonic.
>>566476861I don't know. Someone just uploaded the screenshot on /sthg/ one day. Looks like it came from either Instagram or TikTok>User named 'utlimategayform' supports adulterating Amy's character and defends it as character developmentThey always end up falling into the stereotypes they claim to hate and be defying, don't they?
>>566476741Sega's writers are mega retarded. She'd become debbie from invincible
>>566476615I kind of agree. In fact I agree more than I disagree.>>566476854Another thing is him going "no way nuh-huh" and then running off plays in Amy's story, but not in his. And SA1's story's Rashomon thing makes that weird since it would mean Sonic didn't see it as him doing that but Amy did?In reality, he doesn't do that in the Japanese version either. What really happens is its demonstrating how Sonic is fast and didn't see it as him running off from Amy. In his version they are together the whole way through while in hers, she has to catch up and says hey, I'm not as fast as you are Sonic!" which further demonstrates Sonic doesn't hate Amy. He just found her to be kind of a hindrance, handful.
>>566476554>I dunno why more people don't like herAmongst the pool of these shallow characters, she doesn't have much going on besides "polite milf"
>>566476763Her being a sonic yume is the point. It's not yume if they get together. We don't need more shonenslop trying to force the characters to age and get married and then be written horribly.
>>566477034I'm not saying they have to get married in the near future. That can happen when the franchise ends
>>566477039Vanilla is looking shorter than usual here.
>>566476429Holy Base->not flatruined
Good morning.
>>566476983>Modernshit: "Werru makeu emi rosu srow rike capucomu survioru horroru gamu">Classic Brand: "just give her a spinball, jfc"
>>566477164Anon, I already said I agree 3 times.What I am opposing is her having to get over him.
>>566477186As a franchise for children, I don't like the message of wearing someone down until they get with you. The type of kids who like Sonic already need extra help with social cues.
>>566477351Amy isn't "wearing him down" though.
Sonic fucking Surge is conceptually hot
>>566477164they'll be written horribly regardless
>>566476283What's even the point of showing this particular scene? Even in English it's banter. After he refuses she just says "I thought I had you this time!" and unlocks the cell anyway.
>>566477432She kind of doesnt. Even as banter it's like, we don't need young Sonic fans thinking it's normal in fact it's kind of a good thing that Sonic has consistently rejected her strong advances so they know they're not obligated to date the first girl that shows interest. Adult shipping goggles aside I don't think that's a bad message for kids.
>>566477598The point is that Sonic is not interested in having a romantic relationship with Amy
>>566477656>Sonic has consistently rejected her strong advancesHe hasn't though.>so they know they're not obligated to date the first girl that shows interest.This feels like a made up concern. Kids don't think this.
>>566477432True. They were never intended to get together and the official narrative seems to have moved to them being friends.
Krack, why are you so adamant about Shadria? Do you think you will convince people Shadow was in love with a human?
>>566477697Only Naka has ever said this. Everyone else and every other official source says he likes her but he's shy and won't ever tell her.
>>566477791They were already friends. The idea they weren't is a misconception.
>>566477598Well anon, here's the point of showing that particular scene >>566477775Some people here think Sonic telling Amy no and leaving is "flirting"
>>566477858Shy, I think is the wrong word. It's more like it's not really his domain and he isn't interested or comfortable with the prospect of a relationship.Sonic's an introvert.
>>566477858Sonic says so himself in the games, including that scene>>566477775>made up concernYou say that like having a girlfriend isn't treated as a big status thing for boys
I think the fact that Amy was created to be his girlfriend and then that premise was abruptly never followed through on is... really something. They could have just retired her after Adventure 1 if they weren't going to bother making her playable anymore or have her feelings for Sonic be relevant at all. I get it though since her design is perfect for marketing the series to girls.
sex with krack's opinions
>>566477982>Sonic says so himself in the games, including that sceneWhat part of "won't ever tell her" do you not get?
>>566477989That's a point I've made. Sonic Team needs to pick one - let Sonic and Amy be a couple or retire Amy. The former choice is the best
>>566478018She has some good opinions but I think that's weird why would you have sex with her opinions
>>566477989Amy wasn't created to be his girlfriend, she was created to be his wannabe girlfriend, who he rejects because she's immature and annoying
>>566477894>Some people here think Sonic telling Amy no and leaving is "flirting"Where has anyone said this?>>566477982>You say that like having a girlfriend isn't treated as a big status thing for boysIn your young adult years sure. Barely anyone dated in my school even in highschool. And this new generation even less.
>>566478095This. The dynamic only works if she doesn't give up chasing him and never manages to bag him as a boyfriend. Going to either position also kills Amy's entire character and motivations as they've been established for the last 33 years. Chasing/following after Sonic is the entire dynamic and realistically it never has to change except for when you ask one of the autists here.
let amy date the hottest guy in the franchise
You are all forgetting that Naka didn't approve of Amy's creation in the first place. While he never said he hated Amy you know exactly how Naka feels about big changes being made to Sonic under his nose and Amy is the biggest thing.
>>566478083They should give her a popular yuriship that will make her fans less desperate for Sonic to be with her. Have her redeem a cute mobian villainess and make them "very good friends".
>>566478198Naka's been gone for 20 years. Sonic as a series has been around for 35. And Naka fought with everyone at Sega, both in Japan and America. His opinion is worth less than dirt at this point.
>>566478297Ian...
>>566478198Considering Amy's modern design and character direction seems to be an overt incorporation of aspects of Madonna, I think you're just being a schizo.This is why I hate Sonamyfags. They seem to want to actively ruin Sonamy.
>>566478080His behavior doesn't match that either, he's usually with Amy when he has to be, he doesn't normally hang out with her because he finds her annoying. The best you can get is what Ohshima said about the possibility that he would fall in love with her if he got older, which Ohshima also says would never happen>>566478179>Where has anyone said this?>>566475283>>566475532>>566475727
>>566478338>20 years.More like 10 since he and Iizuka are buddy buddy www.youtube.com/watch?v=znEp_03MFdE
>>566478379I reject this accusation because I fucking despise Sage.
Breaking news:Good thing is getting bad, bad thing is getting worse, worse thing is getting terribie.The future is over and everyrhing is doomed and you'll be dead, yada yada yada go get depressed.
>>566477863It's easy to think otherwise when Sonic has so often been shown avoiding her. Blame SoJ for writing OOC.
>>566478397You have no idea what you're talking about. The only way Sonamy will work is if Sonic and Amy become a couple. This stupid dynamic of Amy chasing him and Sonic and running way does the exact opposite of Sonamy. it gave people the false impression that Sonic hates Amy
>>566478419>he's usually with Amy when he has to be, he doesn't normally hang out with her because he finds her annoying.Sonic isn't usually hanging out with most people. he is off on his own most of the time and people just come find him.His attitude towards Amy is always based on whether she is trying to tackle hug him or not.In Advance games, Shuffle, Riders, etc, she tags along just fine or he is around her at the start with no problem. Even in Sonic X, she is presented as already a core member of his friend group.
>>566478185Amy chasing Sonic forever is a retarded dynamic that never worked and was never good and thankfully, 2027 is going to firmly give Sonic and Amy a better dynamic
>>566474871I want to fug this bug.
>>566478563>it gave people the false impression that Sonic hates AmyThis is largely a western problem stemming from A) a lack of the trope in western media and B) a series of poor translations. Not really something that happens in Japan. And I do agree, but it's a problem that's easily solved by better, clearer writing and tighter control over localizations. Although at this point Ian's not going to be the one to fix it.
>>566478529It's only really the Nishiyama games though.>>566478563He doesn't have to run away from her. He should run and Amy chases.
>>566476442Does Amy even work on her own? Is this a Shadria situation where like Shadow cannot be separated from Maria, Amy cannot be separated from Sonic?
>>566478682They're just inverting it. Lesbian Amy acting strong and badass while saying she hates men and Sonic smirking to the camera pointing his thumb at her and going "that's why I love her"
>>566478781She can work away from Sonic in small doses, sure. But it's core to her character to have that dynamic with Sonic. Without it she loses her identity, which is what's been happening to her for years. Ian will admit as much but won't admit it's a self-inflicted wound. Hesse will say it, too, but is clearly upset by it.
>>566478868How mentally raped do you gotta be to think that there's even a 1% chance of this happening
>>566476429It’s incredibly funny how some got annoyed over their fanfic Raven Blaze not coming true. I’ll laugh harder if she’s actually given to Whisper instead.
>>566477270It's still dark over here.
>>566478956It already happened, didn't you see the end of movie 3? I just added dialogue to it.
>>566478993right
>>566478868Lesbian Amy can only be high femme and still a Sonic fangirl
>>566476442It’s amazing how out of touch people are in regards to Blaze and Rouge>One is warming benches and is always ingulfed in retarded ship wars>The other is a tard wrangler and arm candy for a character that doesn’t respond to her playful teasing
Amy would find Movienic disgusting
>>566478563I had to go dig for the pic, but this is basically a way to continue the chase dynamic that works fine. Sonic can dodge Amy's advances without being antagonistic, but it has to be written in a way that people with room-temp IQ can understand it. In truth, it already IS this, but the subtlety is lost on a lot of people, often for reasons out of their control. >>566478708 It always bears repeating that Sonic could leave Amy in the dust every time if he really wanted nothing to do with her, but he chooses not to.
>>566478708The problem is the chase-and-run dynamic itself. Even with the localization fixed, how can anyone think that's romantic when Sonic didn't even show sings of liking Amy back. Only Yuji Naka believed it was romantic in his own stupid logic
>>566478781She can work away from Sonic but even then, you can't do it while removing Sonic and her feelings from the equation altogether, because at the end of the day, meeting sonic, falling in love with him, being inspired by him and wanting to grow and improve herself because of him are why she is who she is today.It's her foundation. You remove it and I wonder why I should care about her as opposed to any other character Sonic has impacted.How Amy works is she takes all that stuff and uses it as fuel to help others and impact others herself. it gives it sauce because it feels like it comes from somewhere rather than just being a thing she does because "its her character trait".
>>566479153After three movies of his cringefart "well, that happened!" personality had to sadly admit that he's a chud despite his appealing design. The original aborted design actually suits his personality more.
>>566479153I don't think so desu. She wouldn't find him inspiring tho, but she would probably try to play matchmaker between him and Movie Amy. She'd probably like the idea of her getting to encourage and inspire a Sonic even if its a different Sonic than hers.
>>566479178This is not how you show love to a girl. No amount of rhetoric and mental gymnastics is going to convince me otherwise. The chase-and-run dynamic was always trash since Sonic didn't even show signs that he liked Amy back
>you get movie sonamybut>movie sonic has to learn to reach amy's standards instead of amy chasing him
>>566479382There is no "correct" way. It just comes down to what works for different people. Something like what they posted would work. We have Tails as precedent.
>>566479382>This is not how you show love to a girl.I really don't know how many more times I can say this.That's. Not. The. Point.Amy loves Sonic. Sonic isn't interested in romance. But he doesn't hate Amy and he'll even accept offers to go on dates with her sometimes, even if it doesn't pan out the way he wanted. It's supposed to just be a dynamic that keeps her interested and him free of commitment. He's not SUPPOSED to love her back. That ruins the whole fucking thing.
>>566478563Fuckin' Ian Flynn ova here
movie sonic = chudnic
>>566479181Lardass landwhale diabetic Americans thinking running or chasing someone for fun is torture
>>566479567I don't know, the same dynamic as Sonamy exists in plenty of cartoons. Panini, Tootie, Pucca.
I think what ultimately lost me with movie Sonic is his movie voice actor's (or voice detector's) complete unwillingness to be intentionally cheesy and making Sonic an anxious insecure chatterbox instead of a guy who only speaks when he has something to say. He's just always fucking talking. Like he's uncomfortable with silence. Like he cares about how he's perceived.
>>566478868>>566479092>Feminine females are bad unless they're femme lesbians or MtF transgenders>Masculine males are bad unless they're masculine gays or FtM transgenders>Marriage is bad and oppressive unless it's same-sexThis is what the LGBT movement believes. It hates traditional gender roles if amalgamated with heterosexuality>
>>566479793No.
>>566479505It's a dynamic that's boring and wastes time since it doesn't go anywhere. How about that? Saying that Amy forever chasing Sonic and never getting him is the point is a copout by Sonic Team. Love both gives and receives. Love is not a game of tag
>>566479781It kind of stung to learn that the Sonic movies do not have jokes in the script and they just let Sonic's VA ad lib all the jokes
>>566479636Those aren't the same and I'm pretty tired of the comparison. The fact it gets made so much makes me think their prevalence got people to lump Amy in with em unconiously.
>>566478983Make it darker.
>>566479781It comes with his movie origin story also.>surrogate owl mom got killed>abandoned on earth for 7 years>spent those years watching humans from the outside inguy was written to have abandonment issues
>>566479971That's nice, autist, but that's the point. Sonic doesn't love Amy in the way that Amy loves Sonic. The only time it wastes is the time of dumbass shippers who absolutely HAVE to have them fucking off-screen between every game.
>>566479986How are they different?
>>566479971>Love both gives and receives. Love is not a game of tagLove is not a transaction. Relationships are transactional, love is not.
>>566479971Sonic gives Amy a purpose. Amy gives Sonic a conscience.
>>566479971>Love both gives and receives. Love is not a game of tag.Generational quote if I do say so
>>566480072None of them are trying to win the protagonist heart and growing from it. That's the core of it with Amy.They are just presented as annoyances without anything else to it. Except Tootie. She is presented as sympathetic and genuine in her feelings for Timmy and he's just too much of a stupid 10 year old boy to appreciate it.But that's still different from Sonic and Amy.Sonic is the wind that cant be caught and Amy is the person that said challenge accepted.
>Amy finishes her final training session and shows off she can finally run as fast as Sonicwhat now?
>>566480053It'd make more sense for him to have trust issues and be avoidant instead of desperate for attention.
>>56648033769 spindash
>>566480337Sonic reveals he could go even faster than that all along and he was humoring her the whole time.
>>566479934That is how they think. They say that heterosexual women who want to be feminine and submit to their husbands have internalized sexism but don't say that about femme lesbians or MtF transgendersThey also say that heterosexual men who want to be masculine exhibit toxic masculinity but don't say that about masculine gays or FtM transgendersIn other words, the LGBT movement seeks to completely invert and undermine traditional masculinity, traditional femininity, and heterosexuality. Every notice how in homosexual relationships one partner plays the masculine role and the other the feminine role. They have no right to be telling heterosexuals that it's wrong to want to be traditionally masculine or traditionally feminine
>>566480310I was gonna correct you and say that Tootie is pretty genuine and Timmy is supposed to be in the wrong for how he treats you but you were ahead of me
Sonic characters are Saturday morning cartoon cereal mascots. They run ENTIRELY on a resetting status quo every episode. That's why Tails has manned up and regressed like seven times. Amy is probably the ONLY major character that's had any real lasting development, and that was only at the very beginning of the modern era as a means of establishing her as one of the new main characters who could hold her own. She's changed very little until Ian got his grubby little sausages on her and she's worse off for it.
>>566480315kek
>>566480237This artist can't stop making bangers
>>566480420Wanting to "submit" to a man is internalized sexism sorry
>>566480310>Sonic is the wind that cant be caught and Amy is the person that said challenge accepted.
>>566480420>Every notice how in homosexual relationships one partner plays the masculine role and the other the feminine role.No.
Are you guys so anime brained that you think Shadow wanted to fuck his sister?
>>566479971It's also bad for the target demographic since it potentially encourages kids to become future incels.
>>566480601just finger fuck
>>566480591>No.
>>566480621Okay so before it was "we don't wanna encourage boys into thinking they have to accept the advances of the first girl that is in to them" and now its "we desperately need boys to not be out of a relationship". Make up your mind, concern troll.
>>566480601Not his sister. Not even related. Gerald saw him as a tool and Maria saw the personhood within him. Gerald did not regard Shadow as a son. He was a means to an end. A stepping stone. A slave. Maria loved him as an equal, and as a boy.
>>566480557He can't be caught, he has to want to slow down. That's why Sally works with him and Amy never will- she wasn't designed to.>inb4 NOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
>>566480601>SisterI wouldn't avenge shit for my dumbass sister. Now a lover however...
>>566480736Sally who? That's not a real person.
>>566480063>>566480218>>566480218Be philosophical. If Sonic doesn't love Amy the same way she loves him, is that love? No, it's not. That's selfishness, not love. The only way Sonamy would actually be a mutually affectionate dynamic is if Sonic didn't hesitate to go on dates with her. Love is not selfish. Love both gives and receives.
>>566480732>Gerald saw him as a toolHe saw him as a son
>>566480420If all men were secure in their sexuality and masculinity, there would be no need for an LGBT identity.If all women were secure in their femininity and felt safe around the men in their community and the economy wasn't so shit that child-raising got extremely expensive, there would be no need for feminism.
>>566480676Oh, you're not gay and don't know any gay people. I see. There's no gender qualification in being a top or bottom.
>>566480736Archiefags are never beating the "we can't tell the difference between the archie versions and the game versions" allegations
>>566480790Maybe Sonic is just an asshole.>>566480820Feminism exists so that inflation can fuck everyone in the ass, and women can reproduce less. Feminism helped make the economy shit.
>>566480724We are not the same person. There's nothing incel about willfully and voluntarily turning down a woman out of self-respect.
>>566480315I laughed irl.
>>566480867of course
>>566480790You're making up an argument that's not happening so you can take a position at the top of it.>Sonamy would actually be a mutually affectionate dynamicIT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT RETARD SHIPPING AUTIST. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
I was wondering why Sonic doesn't have an equivalent to Wario, but if you think about it, it's Metal Sonic, isn't it? Both are evil doppelgangers motivated by ego and envy, both want to usurp and replace the original, both are advanced robots (revealed in Wario's case in WarioWare: Smooth Moves).
>>566480736>he has to want to slow downthat's not good. and i say that as an archiefag>but character developmentthat's not a good development
>>566480502Traditional gender roles are not oppression. They're what keeps a society functional
>>566480794He absolutely did not. He was a tool for him and nothing more.
Why does Sonic need to Love Amy as much as Amy loves him?
>>566480724The whole idea of a romantic chase is something that the kids for whom Sonic is meant for will never understand. They'll either get one message out of it or another, but either way it will stunt their ability to have healthy relationships. I grew up with SA1/Heroes/X and had no GF in high school so I know firsthand.
>>566480978He literally calls him "his son" in the games. He went out of his way to give him a pure soul. He saw shadow as a person. Its only after his mental breakdown that things got weird.
>>566480736Satam Sally is workable with a flanderized horndog Sonicbut that's still not game Sonic. It's basically Sonouge. Archie just plain didn't work and ultimately their relationship ended.
>>566480993He genuinely doesn't, and that's been the point for 33 years. I don't know why this is news to some people in 2026.
Chroniclesfag, I want to know your opinion on Shadally
>>566481136I mean, even in a theoretical world where they got together, why would it be a problem?
>>566481142Shadally doesn't exist outside of fanfiction. I'm fairly certain Shadow and Sally haven't even spoken to each other more than once.
>>566480953If Sonamy isn't supposed to be a mutually affectionate dynamic, then Amy is better off being retired but Sonic Team wants to stupidly play the middle ground where Sonic says "yeah, I enjoy your company, Amy but I'm not interested in a serious romantic relationship."Thin of it in terms of narrative structure too. If you have a male and a female in a movie that's centered around them and you keep dropping hints that they like each other and begin to build up to a climax but you never go through with the actual climax, then there was no point in dropping those hints. Sonic and Amy's relationship doesn't get a free pass just because Yuji Naka said so
>>566481207An in character Shadow and Sally have never existed at the same time
>>566480973There are no "traditional" gender roles magafag. Commercial advertisements from the 1950s, which your kind larp as traditional values, did not represent real life of that time. Neither do romance romance novels of the 1800s, etc. Not to mention, what we call the past was once the modern age that rejected "traditional" values. Society as we know it exists because women joined the work force after too many men were deployed and died in war. If all women suddenly became submissive house wives we would all starve.
>>566480993Because philosophically, that's how love works like. Love is selfless and forever giving
>>566481324don't argue with moids past midnight
>>566481269Shipping autism and acceptability politics were a fucking mistake.
>>566481207That's not an opinion
Machines are the future partners and children will become bought novelties for those that can afford them. Eggman won
>>566481324Not really, especially if women lost the vote and we got rid of all the people who make being a farmer a living hell through policy.
>>566481407Except that's bullshit. Some people are like that and others aren't. Amy is like that but Sonic? Not so much.
>>566480736That shit stain squirrel has to twist sonic into a bitch
>through policy
>>566481451This is why Sonic would be against AI
>>566481324Women unfortunately don't even know their own wonderful nature these days, they've been coddled into being creatures of pure id who think they're freer but have never been more unhappy.
>>566480736If Sonic had to be made completely OOC for the ship to work then Sonic isn't in the ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3to8GW-7ixkinherently Sonamy
drink yourself to sleep (corn syrup. alcohol is bad for you)
>>566481451This is why giving him a "wholesome" AI slop daughter has made him disgustingly evil.
>>566480867You were never employed in the first place
I tried playing Unleashed and the Werehog section was so bad. Why when I jump at the end of a swing there is no momentum?How do I play through this game without losing all respect I had for the werehog?
>>566481324Men being breadwinners and providers and women being homemakers and caretakers existed throughout all societies until gullible westerners drank the poison of feminism and other progressive ideologies.The only thing that changed was family structure. First you had extended families (multiple family members living in the same household) and then came the nuclear family.
>>566481142Why do you want to know my opinion on Shadally?
>>566481546Name a historical period where women were happy. If anything women are happy now which is why the media is trying to convince everyone they've never been more miserable despite women getting the most degrees and having the most freedom in dating and family management than probably ever.
>>566481269>sonic is shit, give up
>>566481705Shadally is sex
>>566481675unless you can pass universal free childcare and education, we don't give a fuck
>>566481324Most of the reason why people didn't want women to vote was because women were in fact submissive housewife who would vote for whatever their husband told them. So yeah, commercials back then reflected how family used to be perfectly
>>566481720The more miserable women are the more propaganda there is that they're happy. There opposite it also true.
>>566481675>Men being breadwinners and providers and women being homemakers and caretakers existed throughout all societiesIt's exists in plenty of non-human species. Just replace "breadwinners and providers" with "hunters and protectors." It's not universal but that's the group primitive man fits into.
>>566481705TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME
>>566481675What bread are you winning, faggot?
>>566481431Read Books 8 and 9 of Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle. That's where my "shipping autism" comes from>>566481513If Sonic doesn't love Amy the same way, then it's not love. It's selfishness disguised as love.
Sonic ships for this feel?>crouching tiger hidden dragon
>>566481705Sally is Shadow's wife
>>566481962>If you don't reciprocate to someone who you are not interested in whom likes you then you are selfish.don't breed nigga
>>566481880In most of nature it's the mothers who hunt and provide while father's protect the pack from other predatory males. Except in like, insects, where the men all live to serve the queen god mother.
>>566481670Time your jumps wisely as if they were quick-time events
>When Sonamy devolves into gender wars
>>566481962>If Sonic doesn't love Amy the same way, then it's not love. It's selfishness disguised as love.Motherfucker, stop repeating yourself. I already told you that it's not mutual love Holy fuck, you stupid autistic piece of shit.
>>566477270>>566476617>>566474871>>566474761I must cum to a sonic sluts it's very important
>>566482105Sega should have never made female mobians . They are poison for the soul
>>566482105ironically there is nothing traditional about sonamy
>>566482063>It's not universalI know, anon.
I don't see why the guy has to be the breadwinner, I have a hard time just supporting myself on my own income
>>566481705I want a two hour Shadally sex scene
>>566482219nah, it plays biology completely straightthe woman bonds with the manthe man, because of his biology, is designed to fuck off
>>566482240You just made think about if women were the breadwinners and men were stay at home fathers society would function better and men would be happier and I think pretending men are supposed to rule over women while women need to make themselves small and docile is the biggest scam of humanity.
>>566482254Back then it wasn't so hard
>>566482254>I have a hard time just supporting myself on my own incomeyou live in a world ran by jewish faggots
>>566481720Individual determinsm rarely produces a happy and fulfilled woman. Like all humans, they're communal creates, to a slightly greater extent than men.>Name a historical period where women were happy.I'd go with 1050s to 1350s Europe, up until the black death disrupted everything. Women were embedded in dense parish life with constant ritual, feast days, and communal worship. They enjoyed extended family and village networks with little isolation. They experienced the full flowering of Marian devotion. They had a coherent cosmology where every role, like motherhood and domestic work, had cosmic significance. Hildegard of Bingen, Clare of Assisi, and Beguine communities also showed genuine intellectual and spiritual depth for women specifically, all from that period.
>>566481705Shadow would dick Sally's whore mouth
Sonic has had enough of Amy
>>566482254That's because we're living under soft slavery.
Women? Bitches and whoresFind yourself a bro
>>566482571Sonadow fujos are disgusting and they hate Amy because she poses the biggest threat to their yaoi crackship
Shadow's wife is Maria
>>566482509The workforce is all about social survival and keeping face. The home is a vulnerable place where families lay their heads. It seems like working in a corporate job is better suited to female socialization and keeping the home safe would suit most men who, after finishing their chores and busywork could go straight to their hobbies.
>>566482695They don't hate Amy because she's no threat. They hate Maria because Shadow is canon in love with her and are trying to take all the significant moments Shadow has with her and giving them to Sonic. I even like sonadow, but it disgusts me.
>>566482571They made sony looks very soft~
>>566480502Wanting to submit to God, on the other hand, produces unparalleled good influence and empowerment. If you've never read about Saint Joan of Arc's deeds, and read her letters, you're doing yourself a disservice.
>>566482734>>566482835You hate Shadow.
>>566482897Projection and deflection right on cue.
>>566482854Imagine squeezing his face cheek to cheek
>>566482571Homosexuality must be very common in Mobian Society
>>566481705I actually want to know your opinion on Shadally, I'm not trying to be annoying please.
>>566482734Let shadow move on ffs
>>566482890God as a concept is okay. Treating men like gods over your life is degrading and perverse. God is not necessarily a man or gendered at all.
>misogyny spikes>homosexuality spikesI am noticing
>>566482835If you like Sonadow, you deserve all the humiliation you can get, even more if you're a man that's into Sonadow. If you go the tweet where picrel originally came from, you will find some comments by Sonadow fujos coping by saying that Sonic and Amy won't be a couple and that Amy will just be his sister.
>>566483070aka get this bitch out of the way of my ship, but try to make it sound feminist
>>566483106Historically speaking, misogyny is at an all time low sonic sonic gotta go fast
mental gymnastics in this thread
I'm so confused
>>566483149Liking sonadow doesn't mean I don't ship other things. I used to be into sonamy too until the writers kept shitting the bed and I'm not invested in their "potential." But I don't want Sonic tied down to anyone even if the ship is good, like sonaze.
>>566483352>But I don't want Sonic tied down to anyone even if the ship is good, like sonaze.I think the best version of any non canon ship should account for all the reasons why it can't work. Sonaze is best when it focuses on why they're separate in the first place. Not into the whole "King Sonic" stuff. That's my take at least.
>>566483258sonadow fujos are conflicted about hating maria and try to reverse uno that shadria shippers ackshully hate shadow. no, they just hate maria.
>>566475372Movie maria was sexier
Embrace traditionreject modernity
>>566483352To make Sonamy sound impossible, Sonadow fujos like to make the argument that Sonadow wouldn't tie Sonic down since Shadow is the only person that can keep up with him. Sonurge shippers do this as well. The argument is preposterous
>>566483494Surge wouldn't tie Sonic down like Amy does.
>>566483489Sonic should have a human girlfriend since Shadow got to have one. Well technically Elise and Madonna count on s conceptual level.
>>566483484Wait a minute...
>Paps told Duo to kill himselfLol
>>566483550Is Surge like a female reincarnation of Scourge?
>>566483484Game Shadow is more into paraplegics
>>566483624As he should.
>>566483624It's kind of fitting that the creator of Surge hates him
>>566483624what does this mean
>>566483480Sonadow fujos are pathetic, terminally online, predominantly ultraliberal, millennial White women of the millennial and zoomer generations who spend the little savings they make working as wagies on yaoi commissions made by drawfags on Twitter. They just want a gay Sonamy dynamic where Shadow acts like Sonic and Sonic acts like Amy>>566483550False
>>566482745Modernity has sold women a poor vision of freedom defined almost entirely by (capped) individual economic autonomy and sexual liberation while ignoring social goods, dismantling communal structures, dismantling spiritual frameworks, and dismantling relational roles that historically gave life its texture and meaning for everyone, but perhaps especially for women. The corporate treadmill running us ragged, the dissolution of parish and village life, the reduction of motherhood in significance, and the replacement of dense kinship networks with atomized nuclear or post-nuclear households have all left women with fewer true freedoms and fewer anchors. Her sphere was destroyed, and she was forced, against her will, in man's. Your absolutely right that the culture we're in was designed by marketing and ideologies that benefit from rootlessness and extraction, and tk keep us stressed and desperate enough to keep running with it. Genuine flourishing for most people has historically more like meaningful participation in something larger than the self. We've traded that largely without noticing, and largely without being asked. Modern woman's unhappiness is not her own fault.
>>566483484え...?What did he mean by this?
>>566483728
>>566483624Duo seems like the kind of guy who's insanely annoying to the people who actually like the characters he spams
>>566483072God incarnated as a man. He's a masculine creator, but in His full trinitarian nature, far beyond man at the same time. Men and women are not rightly ordered except when in full obedience to God, which is something women are naturally better natured towards, admittedly.
>>566483867what a sad state all fandoms are in since generative ai hit the scene
>>566483867Does Paps know that's Surge's biggest fan
>starts spouting religious nonsense in a thread about a blue hedgehog
Sonadow sucks mainly because the whole 'enemies/rivals to lovers' dynamic doesn't fit Sonic's character at all, and it mainly serves to remove the autonomy that Sonic and Shadow have individually as characters. Shadow still being propped up as a "rival" to Sonic post-SA2 is already forced enough as is.
>>566483826What does Shadow's fluff feel like?
>>566483993women are the creators of life. god must be female in that sense by design. inb4 women need men to make life ok then god is nonbinary intersex by default and therefore queer people are closer to god.
>>566484087Sonic is unironically one of the most Christian modern protagonist there is.
>>566483867I think the internet needs more pics of Sonic fucking Surge's right wet pussy
>>566484087so just a regular day
>>566484149He's God. Not a biological entity. He exists outside biology, except the Son, who incarnated as a man. And it's very important that we don't forget that, lest men forget what they're capable of being. They're far more dangerous when they forget true male nature.
>>566484102Sonic has no true rivals.
>>566483867Paps didn't create Surge, Ian Flynn did. Pap's opinions don't matter.
>>566483867Who's Paps?
>>566484028I like organic, hand-drawn art but the most of the people I see freaking out about AI art are woke activists on Twitter
>>566484317lurk moar
>>566484245god is nonbinary. father and mother to all.
>>566484317Surge's designer
>>566484298Sonic has one true rival.
Paps, gimme your judgment!
>>566483624>Doesn't post evidenceI don't believe you.
>>566481705If you don't answer I'll take this to mean Shadally is based and incharacter, Krack can cope.
>>566484435A mimic is sadly not a rival. That is the poetic tragedy of Metal Sonic.
>>566483867The three canon ships...
>>566484497are you fucking blind
>>566483867Paps doesn't understand Surge.
>>566484653Yes
>>566484380The generative act at the heart of civilization is masculine. The imposition of form onto chaos, the naming of things, the architectural will that looks at void and says "this is what shall be," is not a soft or receptive force. It's a declarative one, and that declaration is essentially masculine in character.
>>566484747>Paps is too cowardly for this ship
I will never understand the hysteria and vitriol over AI when I used to see faggots being smug about it replacing blue collar jobs, but now it's the devil since it's replacing white collar jobs instead.
this is random but why is silvamy so rare? i mean yes it is crack and silver is more into blaze and amys only into sonic but ppl who prefer sonaze and or dislike blazes association with silver or sonamy still default into shadamy as amy's second boyfriend rather than considering silver even tho the counterparts should more be like sonaze/silvamy sonamy/silvaze
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>>566484840Every Amy ship requires people who are willing to fight Sonamy fans
Duofag, you lost. Sonurge is ooc and Surge'# creator wants you to kill yourself
>>566484958>More fanart of Silver in a dress This character is never recovering.
>>566485023>anon thinks that gonna stop himthe only thing that can do it is cease and desist letter sent to him
>>566485023i think they are angry over the ai slop rather than sonurge
>>566483867Holy based
>>566484840i'm open to silvamy and metamy but i don't want to deal with sonamyfags who would think i was "insulting" her for not pairing her with a traditionally hot angsty guy
Sonamyfags will actually treat you worse than Nazis treat Jews if you oppose them too much
>>566484838I was turned off from it when I realized it stole art, generated lies treated as truth, and poisons neighborhoods as we speak. Also the way it's being FORCED upon us without our consent everywhere.
>>566484958Cutiever>>566485036Woah dude you must be fun at parties
>>566484840Silvamy is like the 17th ship in lineit's bland and not really controversial because nobody ships it
>>566485036If you don't like Silver in a dress you may be gay. He has cute twin tails you can pull during sex
>The EndYou just know the IDW staff is itching to make Shadow job to her. But will it happen? Probably not.
>>566485036you act like there isn't even more art of sonic being shadow's personal femboy in drones, or slightly more rarely, the vice versa.
>>566484753I think you are very sheltered from life and the world and history and are probably in a cult.
>>566484889>Every Amy ship requires people who are willing to fight Sonamy fansIt does sound awful. They are effective gatekeepers
>>566483494This is why I unironically think Sonadow is even more shallow and boring than Sonamy. Amy isn't as fast as Sonic, but because she and him are driven by the exact same love for adventure and excitement--they always end up at the same destination anyway. It says more about Sonic's character that even despite his free-spirited nomadic lifestyle, he's willing to take it slow for someone like Amy who's on his exact same wavelength--with the only divergence being their immediate feelings on romance and commitment because Sonic's a boy and Amy's a girl. Compare that to "Shadow is as fast as Sonic, so they'd be soulmates", even though they have nothing in common
>>566485304yea i am asking why no one actually ships it.
>>566485334Surge has jobbed to Sonic. It should be impossible for Shadow to job to her unless it's done as a pure humiliation ritual for Shadow.
>>566485417It means if you like ships that align with Sonamy like Sallycole or Silvelise Sonamyfags will make your enemies lives hell. But is it worth it?
The true end to fighting Blaze isn't losing. It's ending up in a dungeon for life. Don't pick a fight with a princess.
>>566485214id say silver is ''hot'' enough in that he's a bishonen like shadow, at least when he's drawn on model. there can also be angst as silver's likely to get into fights, i know shitty en dub and early idw neutered him but pepole are more aware of his personality now than like 5-10 years ago
>>566485450Silver is not popular.
Metangle
>>566485450that's incest
An actual fight against Shadow without Chaos Control ends in death. Just ask Infinite's squad what Shadow is capable of without an Emerald.Shadow in general is under utilized but I think Sega is afraid of fucking him up...Doesn't explain why they let IDW try their best to ruin him.
>>566485516>shitty en dubEven the English dub knows Silver is handsome
>>566485546Draw more Soleil
>>566485508Trying to make blaze cool will never work, she's a girl, just make her sexy and hot instead
I forgot Vector is strong
>>566485341>>566485036at the very least silver's most popular ship is still a straight one. same can't be said for sonic
IDW doesn't allow Shadow to interact with the OCs because they're created for characters being overly nice to each other. It's also why you don't see Knuckles or Omega interact with them either. They're too mean.
>>566485519he's more popular than any male character that's not sonic or shadow, which admittely is a big gap but the way people argue about him or silvaze every thread alone is proof he has some popularity.
It wouldn't even be a contest to fight Knuckles. Outside of Eggman, he's the only character with legit W's against Sonic himself. Other than trying to trick him, you won't beat Knuckles in a fight.
Surge can beat the weeping wolf, though.
>>566485784Sonic has to be a mother for most of his life. It's understandable for him to crossress
>>566485549headcanon, the point of silver being like 200 years from future instead of 20-50 is because they wanted to distance him from anyone from the present.
>>566485546MeTangle
Sonic, Shadow, and Silver are identical in universe. They are all the peak blob attractiveness. The reason people shit on Silver is because he's always sitting next to two characters who have attractive looks AND attractive personalities. Silver is physically attractive, just personality stunted when compared to Sonic and especially Shadow.
>>566485860No way is Silver more popular than Tails and Knuckles.
Sonic show where all the Sonic clones live together as a family
>>566485546Better than realdash
>>566485713Forgotten character. Gimme a new trapboy.
In the grand scale of power leveling, Surge is irrelevant. And that makes sense given her "creator" was such an irrelevant wannabe. At best, you can go the Flynn approach and actually write Surge like a villain so she at least has something.But that just makes her an even lamer Metal Sonic. And Metal Sonic would've won that fight if Surge didn't have help from that guy who can't get into any of the games.Surge is below Metal Sonic tier. And that's sad.
>>566486184Fine. Elias Acorn, he looks like Sally
>>566485989Jet clears all of them
Game Shadow would beat Surge in less thab a minute. IDW Shadow, though? He's either losing or getting stalematted somehow.
>>566486020id maybe agree with you 10 years ago but nowadays it's silver because 00s fags who like edgy plots grew up. tails doesn't have much besides being a satellite sidekick character and being cutesy. knuckles has more fans but he's been treated as mostly as a joke for years. tails and knuckles probably have more people that know them but silver has more people that would have him as their ''favorite'' if that makes sense.
>>566486309Except when he's cowering in fear.>>566486356Given its still Evan and Ian at the helm, they'll make him lose in the most nonsensical way possible. Picsreel wasn't written by either of them.
>>566486356Game Shadow has never beaten anyone in a fair fight ever. He always need chaos control to cheat a victory
>>566486492IDW Shadow still loses even WITH Chaos Control.
>>566486489You don't need to be strong to be handsome
>>566486303Elias always felt too 'handsome' to be a trap. I don't personally get the appeal.
>>566486492I have video evidence to the contrary.
Nice game Sonicbabs
>>566486689It's okay I get the appeal, I like it when my cute femboy looks a bit boyish and handsome
>>566481705Because it's based unlike shadriafuck.
Left side: SoleilRight side: Sonic
Dude I'm gonna need you to chillax all the way
>>566486828how often do you sperg about mario shipping at smbg?
>>566487001Fucking faggot
>>566487148because you did not say, "chillax to the max," you are now gay all the way
>>566487438NOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE GAY
Gay cum energy
>>566487001Mobians are exempt from this because it's never gay to fuck them
>>566487001>mesu nized festivalAncient faps
>>566487001Only a bitch ass nigga is self-conscious enough to care about what others think of his sexuality.
>>566487001
>>566484840Just saw this on Twitter so, for you anon
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>>566488007Tails should've been far left. Get that Tumblr OC outta here nigga
https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/566445064/#p566463014If Sonic doesn't get amnesia, Blaze would just send him back home immediately, because that's exactly what she does the instant Sonic does get his memory back.That'd mean Sonic can't save everyone from the jaws of defeat, Eggman wouldn't get nearly as close to winning if Sonic fought him from the start, because everyone at the party (except for G-merl, who Eggman specifically accounted for) is actually that useless in a fight and needs to have that moment when everyone jerks off Sonic because he's soooo coool.
"mr needlemouse"uugh
>Harinezumi-sanyare yare...
>>566489012Tails is male so you will always be conscious about the penis
>hellokitty for boys
How it feels to chew 5 gum
Sex with Iblis
>>566490003oh... that's gore of my comfort character...
>>566485363You too.
>>566485508I wish Blaze was more like that in IDW, she's supposed to be ruthless against her enemies, right?
if IDW gets canceled they will just give the license to Udon, change the licensing agreement and then hire Ian and Evan again.
>>566485508Blaze was weaker than Surge in that IDW issueAnd while Blaze > Sonic > Shadow, Surge is stronger than Shadow
GAYFAAAAAGS
>>566490862Saying Blaze is stronger than Sonic is a bit of an overstatement. Her powers make her deadlier, but she's also more brittle. When Blaze beats Sonic he's good to keep going, but when Sonic beats Blaze she's too hurt to keep going.
reminder that marine is stronger than super sonic and burning blaze are together
>>566491068Blaze won their only canon clash back in Rush
Maria is invincible
>>566491013>Fluff full of mucus You homos are disgusting
>>566491210Then why can I see her?
>>566492665Hahaahah hahaH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAah
>Sonic has actually fought Eggman many times before but Sonic 1 is the first time it involved the Chaos Emeralds
What is sonic doing for mother's day?
>>566484850
>>566494212Sex with his moms.
twatter is having a melty because of duofags on model ai slop
>>566494437What a bunch of losers
amyfags are tired of sonamy
>>566477798I don't think. I did convince them. The evidence speaks for itself.
>>566494640>Scaring a bunch of limpdicks and astroturfing your ship is convincing
>>566494612sallyfags are tired of sonallyit's official. the wind has won. sonic sucks as a love interest. waifufags want their waifus to be useful on their own. shippers go ship your self inserts with someone else and leave sonic alone
>>566480426>Sonic characters are Saturday morning cartoon cereal mascots. Only Sonic is, and only Sonic should be. If everyone is treated like a mascot just like him, it breaks the whole franchise and the very concept of stories, and this franchise loves stories. Sonic stories work because SONIC is a mascot who'll never change himself but incites change in others. Tails only works as a character when he is changing as a result of Sonic's influence.If you reset Tails' character growth, you damage Sonic's own mascot status by removing the actual impact he has on others. Amy is the only other character that's "Mascot-like" by nature because most "waifu" characters are meant to just sit there and look pretty because they are idealized concepts, not "real people". Amy's own "growth" is purely in power level, her capability to actually do things herself. Because being the "GIRL" character means not having agency or the capability to take action on her own because that's what the BOYS do, and thus all she's good for is being rescued like a living trophy or macguffin. Her SA1 story is about changing that narrative, but at no point does her personality or mindset change. Amy between CD and Heroes is the exact same character, but with different levels of capability that then alter the nuances of how she's used, but the core drive that she is the girl who chases Sonic never changes. In fact, Heroes Amy being so much faster and strongly only sells the idea that she's the girl who chases Sonic much better than CD or even SA1 ever could, because the damsel narrative directly hinders that motivation or premise from actually being displayed.
>>566494770I disagree
>>566494717>Making a post and having multiple people you have not talked to before deliberately come up to you and say you convinced them is actually not convincing them because...because shut up okay?
>>566480736>he has to want to slow down.No, Sonic will never slow down FOR ANYONE.EVER. >>566480736>That's why Sally works with himNO, SHE DOESN'T. Sally is Sonic's opposite, the only that ship works is by forcing Sonic to be with someone who hates that he is "Sonic", it creates the narrative that he should "stop" doing whatever he wants, that he should stop being himself, and "settle down" or whatever. Amy only works because her chasing after Sonic reinforces that Sonic IS SONIC, and will always BE Sonic, and he will NEVER change who he is FOR ANYONE. Amy has no desire to change Sonic or tie him down or anything, she wants to catch up to him and be part of his adventures because she finds Sonic's lifestyle exciting. Amy loves Sonic for being Sonic, and changes herself to keep up with him. Sally would wanna change Sonic into a different person that'd better fit herself.
>>566494917They're siblingsYou're literally the only person in the general who likes this ship unironicallyYou got drawfags to pretend to like it so they can look cool because you astroturfed itYou attacked other ships for yearsYou reply to yourself to prove there's more shadriafagsYou refuse to accept that Shadow can move on
>>566494514You do request rn?
>>566483550Amy doesn't tie Sonic down in the first place, and Sonic is not ever going to pursue ANYONE romantically regardless.
>>566495074>Amy only works because her chasing after Sonic reinforces that Sonic IS SONIC, and will always BE Sonic, and he will NEVER change who he is FOR ANYONE. Amy has no desire to change Sonic or tie him down or anything, she wants to catch up to him and be part of his adventures because she finds Sonic's lifestyle exciting.Are you forgetting how Amy has dreamed of marrying Sonic and her themes song 'My Sweet Passion' says 'Come on, settle our lives'?Just because Sonic is supposed to inspire others doesn't mean he ought to be a Gary Stu who's always right about everything
>>566495328>You're gonna marry me, and you're gonna like it. and there's no escaping it
>>566495328>Sonic is not ever going to pursue ANYONE romantically regardless.
>>566495408>Are you forgetting how Amy has dreamed of marrying SonicAmy's introduction in SA1 is hating how boring her life is and wanting to be part of Sonic's. >and her themes song 'My Sweet Passion' says 'Come on, settle our lives'?You don't know the first thing about what her theme song is actually about if you legitimately think this.>Just because Sonic is supposed to inspire others doesn't mean he ought to be a Gary Stu who's always right about everythingYou don't understand Sonic. He embodies the core thesis of the series, and Amy in particular is built around and in support of that.
>>566491183Shut up nigga, she lost that exchange, and that fight was 21 years ago where Sonic is growing while Blaze is still fucking around, you can tell that by how slower Blaze is to Surge and Surge is slower than Sonic.
>>566495450That never happened. At no point in the games has Amy ever seriously tried to force Sonic into marriage. That was never a thing. Not even in Sonic Heroes, that's not what was happening in this cutscene in the first place.
>>566495571I know about Amy's introduction in SA1 and what the beginning lyrics of her song say but that doesn't negate she said 'settle our lives' in the song as well.>You don't understand Sonic. He embodies the core thesis of the series, and Amy in particular is built around and in support of that.Every single character seems to bend around Sonic just to prove him right. Sonic is a Gary Stu. Sonic Team even mandates that he can't ask for help. I find that stupid and an an example of bad character writing
>>566495694>Boo>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKK
>>566495878those books were already full of inaccuracies.
>>566495878Saying that picrel is out of character is as stupid as saying that Sonic sleeping is out of character. No, Sonic doesn't need to be running every second of his life just o be in-character and if he can slow down and hang out with Chip in Unleashed, then there's nothing preventing him from doing it with Amy as well.Screw Ian Flynn and. screw SOA for taking this away from Amy's character bio in the 35th anniversary version. Screw their double standards. Amy's love for Sonic is preserved in the Japanese versions but is removed in the English versions
>>566494738>sonic sucks as a love interestThat's what happens when you're constantly running away from love, responsibility or anything else requiring emotional intelligence. Sonic isn't just a terrible love interest, he's a bad friend, a bad role model, and a bad person in general. He's not even really a hero, he lets Tails do all of the work.
>>566496113Sonamybesties spent years shitting on Archie and now you're making excuses for the very thing you called OOC
>>566496048>>566496113>[Cope]
>>566496113>Amy's love for Sonic is preserved in the Japanese versions but is removed in the English versionsshould women be reduced to men's enjoyment?
Blaze only has one logical shiphttps://litter.catbox.moe/cgt5qu5lt0b9gnf5.webp
>>566496176Sally isn't even a canon character. She was created by SOA without any input from SOJ. She's irrelevant
>>566496253>A girl liking a man is automatically for the man's enjoyment.Good job decentering men there.
>>566495096Maria will always be in Shadow's heart. You are the same person who told Maris she should kill herself and that she deserved to be depressed for shipping it. You are the same person that made a fanfiction about me getting raped for shipping it. You are not subtle whatsoever. You are a severely mentally ill middle aged man who genuinely feel emotionally attacked by the motivation a cartoon rat has had since the very start of his character, anyone who frequents here knows you have tantrums over ships that aren't yours nearly daily. You hate the depth of this bond because it reminds you that you will never experience genuine love, connection, and purpose. You identify with Shadow's misanthropic hatred of humanity, but Maria reminds you that he actually has a proper reason for his anti-social behavior, and you don't.
>>566496176sonallyfags send death threats to literal children for drawing sonic and amy holding kids. sonallyfags never played the games and think sonic should be punched out by a bpdemon bitchmunk but suuuureeee sonic would love sally because thats his fucking character right? to be chained down to a throne instead of an adventure fucking faggot
>>566484840Amy isnt shipped with Shadow because of the counterpart thing. She is shipped with him because she is the lead female character and Shadow is the dark broody edgy boy character. Thr fact he in canon is analogous to Sonic in abilities and appearance is more justificationbfor it than the main reason it happens.I actually like Silvamy more than Shadamy in theory, but they dont interact much so there isn't much there for ship fuel.
Every time she posts it makes me sick. When will she just leave?
>>566496441didn't happen but if it did, they probably deserved it. i have seen forces zoomers sonamyfags (never met a sonallyfag in their lives) act like in picrel
>>566496482Be a man like Shadow and respond directly.
>sending death threats to a random eight year old drawing sonamy is good
>>566496253Tails, Amy & Knuckles all exist for their dynamic with Sonic, above all lse. Tails exists to be the Sidekick.Amy exists to be the Girlfriend.Knuckles exists to be the Friendly Rival. Pretty much everything about them ties back to that. Tails' two traits is keeping up with Sonic and being as smart as Sonic's main villain. Knuckles' entire life duty exists for the sake of the contrast between his responsibility and Sonic's freedom. It's stupid to single out Amy for being defined by her relation to Sonic. Sonic defines her the same way Maria defines Shadow.
>>566496672This is what I would think if I were an Archiefag.
>The discourse from earlier this morning was a Sallyfag concern trolling all along.Why they you like this?
>>566496719remember when sallyfags would falseflag and spam gore and act like they were amygods?
SONAMY IS GOODSHADARIA IS GOODROUGES BOOBS ARE GOODNATURAL LOVE IS GOODNATURAL BODIES ARE GOOD
>>566481705Answer
I remember Sonic 33rd anniversary SoA stream on youtube. the one where they were unpacking lego boxes.sonamyfags swarmed into the comments and started demanding sonamy to be made canon. Katie was staring at the screen with a :D face.sonamyjews sperg out on everyone and then try to play victim and blame it on others.
Sonic characters shouldn't date. It's a kids game. It's like seething about Peach and Mario being friends this entire time.
im so tired of this shit
>>566496719>>566496779No it was besties having their usual melt down. as usual.
>>566497072Romantic love is not an inappropriate subject for children, anon. Peach and Mario are in love with each other. They're not friends
>>566483867Paps is a good artist--don't know how he is as a person, but I can understand his frustration. However I can't help but feel a bit of catharsis seeing all these once pompous artists on social media get mad at this.The whole "pick up a pencil" line is starting to sound less like backhanded advice, and more like an angry desperate plea
>>566497208They are said to be friends. Nintendo confirmed it. Men and women can be friends without dating.
>>566497320Artists are finally being seen as the pathetic people they’ve always been.
the bestie cries in pain as she slaps you for not shipping sonamy
Duo has a fetish for taming strong women and cucking women in love
>>566481705Talk about Shadouge
>>566497412You know some artists draw for a living and could be evicted for not making rent because someone used ai to steal from them?
the bestie spergs and projects
>>566497108You're unhinged.
>>566497320>The whole "pick up a pencil" line is starting to sound less like backhanded advice, and more like an angry desperate plea
>>566497387It was NOA who said that, not NOJ. NOA is just as woke and pozzed as SOA so of course they would try to remove Mario and Peach's love for each other just like how SOA removes Amy's love for Sonic
Captain Rescue to the (doublemint) rescue!
>>566497208https://youtu.be/VouqoMzGZa4Mario simps for her but she doesn't see him the same way.
>>566497680Anon, the dynamic has been present in japanese material for years. Mario tried to milady her but she is mostly oblivious or just thinks he is being nice. They are friends.
>>566497805Have you forgotten of all the times Peach has given Mario a kiss on the cheek in the games? To say she doesn't see Mario the same way is revisionism
>>566496978>Stop using the internet to connect to others to reach a goal, you have to take Sega's dumb decision up the ass like the rest of usLmao faggot
>>566497645>spergs all day everyday about amy>"you are unhinged"
>>566497108Amy is friends 3ith Blaze and was friends with Elise. Heck, even in Archie, she and Sally were friends.>>566497950Yes as a token gesture for saving her. She is a princess. It's customary.
>>566497095Tired of what?
>>566497543Maybe they should've stopped being vindictive cunts on Twitter
>>566497320>Pick up a pencilWhy? AI is the future. That's such a boomer line. That's the whiny artist version of "back in my day". Trad artists want to gatekeep art because at the end of the day they just see it as money, that's why the only argument they have is "taking our jobs". Art is the antithesis to capitalistic ideology and AI is making it more accessible and easier to create. Only Zionist trained sheep are scared of AI because it threatens to devalue their sheckle peddling chokehold on the "art industry". Pick up a pencil? I bet that person has never even drawn with a pencil. They probably use some drawing app that they have to pay a monthly subscription to use that has features like line stabilization and auto shading. Everything is a "tool" to make the job easier until we discover a way to let any random person create art. If you get mad because someone else can enjoy creating something at the push of a button, you're not an artist, you're a greedy capitalist pig you only sees the world through the lense of profit.
>>566498057>Amy is friends 3ith Blaze and was friends with Elise. Heck, even in Archie, she and Sally were friends.All ooc
>>566497995Not your op, lmao.
>>566498118How are they being vindictive?
>>566498057Peach wouldn't kiss any other man if he had save her. She only kisses Mario because she's romantically interested in him
>>566498119Saved for copypasta
>>566497673> Using a meme wrongIt's still true
>>566498250>Peach wouldn't kiss any other man if he had save her.Luigi
>>566497987what the fuck are you talking about.anyways imagine if they were demanding sonally>heh, why are sonallyfags like this? they can't just let go lmao>inb4 sallyfagI am just exposing the hypocrisy
>>566498208
>>566498250My mom had five previous husbands and she kisses my dad still. Women kiss other men even if friends.
>>566490840Are the editors at Udon better at tardwrangling, at least?
>>566498284>You are using the meme wrong *beep*>Cease this instead *boop*>This is incredibly harmful and offensive *Clank*
>>566498360The difference is Sally isnt even in the games or media being discussed.
They aren't canceling IDW, it sells well among the target audience, children not grown men spending their days touching themselves
>>566498573>why are sonazefags like this>inb4 sonazefagthere, happy?
We have a tranny activist here too.
>>566498634Then they should sell more sex, this is a +18 comic
>>566498561“artist” melty
>>566498697So Sonic to you should be the females shaking their tits whenever saved. Sonic to you would be Shadow rapping about big booty bitches and how he dont fuck with dem hoes. Is that what you want?
>>566498573The difference is that Sonic has to be OOC to deal with Sally
>>566498545What's the difference between what the editor and what Sonic Team supervises in the comics?
>>566498659I dunno what this is supposed to imply. I just said that with Sonally it isn't the same because you would be injecting her into something she doesn't exist in.Im not the other anon you were talking to before that
>>566498803It would be popular for Sonadoyumis. Homies over hoes, and whatnot.
>when everything is OOC…>nothing will be!- SOA since Sonic the Hedgehog (Mega Drive)
>>566498806I agree, but its not really relevant.
you guys are so fucking boring every time I visit here it's the same bullshitwest vs east flame warAI shillingwanting death and discomforrt for whatever enemy your schizo brains come up with/pol/ posting then quoting yourselves posting "based" like we don't know it's youcrashing out over schizo shipsthat one doomer who just wants the world to fucking die and everybody screaming in pain Asmongold tier rant about the trannies, the gays and the blacks ruining the franchise complaning about silver in general, blaze in general, shadow in general, nobody gives enough fucks about any other characters Im honestly impressed you people even ran off the rchiefags who swore up and down it was the true canon of the franchise and the only good sonic media, they dominated this place 7 years ago, oh god, it's been 12 years since I've had the misfortune of knowing this hell hole.I'm never coming back, have this schizo inducing image as a final fuck you, enjoy your shitty mother's day, I wish they'd of just swollowed you all.
>>566498908>takes a side in an anonymous conversation>gets a reply from the other side>akshually i am nta. so i don't know what you are talking aboutgo back to twitter or wherever you came from and don't return until you are eighteen or older.
>>566499107>takes a sideIm just refereeing on shit that I see as dumb lol.>go back to twitter or wherever you came from and don't return until you are eighteen or older.Im 30 and dont use twitter and have been here for years, schizo.
>30 and still on 4chani cant wait till i graduate from uni so i can leave
>>566498993>WHEN EVERYTHINGGGGGG YOUUUU KNOWWWWW HAS COME AND GOOOONNNEEEEEEE!>(You are at your lowest. I am rising higher!!!!)
I think if you knew someone like Maria, even if she wasn't killed, she'd be nearly impossible to get over.
>>566499034Ywnbaw tranny
>>566499357I just post here when i'm bored and have nothing to do at work really. I miss forums.
>>566499392Especially if every single other person you knew tried to use you, dehumanize you, or kill you.
>>566499392We don't even know enough about Maria to really say that. I can accept Shadow feels this way, but everyone? Seems like an overstatement.
>>566498906>What's the difference between what the editor and what Sonic Team supervises in the comics?If the editor's good at their job? Coordinating writers to keep things consistent between each other rather than infighting or sabotaging, keeping details in the comic continuity itself consistent (if they're good at their job, so not Marvel/DC), and actually EDITING the story and being its doctor so it doesn't read like crap.
>>566499369big fat balding millennial flapping his hands + rocking back and forth in his gamer chair: what a dork lmao!!!!!
sperg and project
>>566500139In fairness, the I AM NOT WEAK thing legitimately was lame.
>>566500347‘My name is not Rick’ from SpongeBob unironically holds more weight than Infinite’s spergout
do we still do whiteboards here?
Infinite is based and will mog all your shitty pet characters. Just you wait and see!!!!
>>566500535Yes but it's filled with tourists
>>566500535https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5 https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5 https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5
Requesting the next OP to be Paps telling Duofag to kill himself
>>566500623
You know how Sonic and Amy are the hedgehog dilemma? As in, that's their entire dynamic?If you applied the hedgehog dilemma to Shadow, he would rather isolate himself than warm up to anyone but Maria, which is why when she's ripped away from him, we get>I'm shivering with cold, I struggle against despairMaria's life defines Shadow's, it always has and it always will, no one can be 'like Maria' because Shadow isn't supposed to move on from her, that's his appeal as a character.Sonic is cool, Shadow is cold.
>>566499476isn't there one forum thats alive and focused on lolcows but this website bans you for mentioning it?
>>566501262Yeah the farms
>>566501354yeah thats it the owner can be difficult to deal with but they have sonic fans, the gooners here would probably get banned over there since the owner hates porn and has a rule in some parts that you can't thirst or mention finding people attractive
>>566501019>"But that was the old me. The one you see before you made short work of the so called Ultimate lifeform. He is not even worth my time anymore. He's far too WEAK.">Soon the world will be made to change at my hand. And all will know who true fear and pain!""IM NOT WEAK IM NOT WEAK IM NOT WEAK IM NOT WEAK"
>>566500985Why are you guys so gay about Ai?
LET'S FUCKING GO, DAD!Literally smoked these nerds.
>>566501794Eggdad is Westshit garbage
>>566501776Surge looks so sexy in a dress
>>566501226Silver is hotheaded
>>566502148
>>566502047Shut the fuck up, bitch.
>>566502086Indeed
>>566502335Why do you hate Sonic?
>>566502148*Ring ring*Based department?
>>566502406>indeed>posts her in pantsduoretard...
>>566502406>>566502545Surge always looks cute
>>566501226Shadow is cold and he came from the ARK which is in space which is cold>>566502148Silver is hot and Crisis City is a ruined city of fire and lava which is hot
>>566502148Sonic is hotheadedAmy is hotheadedKnuckles is hotheadedBlaze is hotheadedSilver is hotheadedI'M hotheaded!Is there anyone else that is hotheaded that I should know about?!?!?!
>>566502665Well you certainly seem to have anger issues
>>566502665Meow.
>>566502665Rouge has a short temper as well
>>566502794Are you old enough to even know what Spongebob is?
>>566502665Sonic and Blaze has better control over their emotionsAmy, Knuckles and Silver can't contain their emotions and often lashes out
>>566502665Sonic isn't hotheaded, he's coolheaded. That's WHY Amy, Knuckles and Blaze are hotheaded, to contrast Sonic's cool and aloof, chill, laidback attitude.
>>566502545Not duo, I just post his stuff
>>566502972>Blaze has better control over her emotions>Blaze
>>566502925You called yourself hotheaded moron
>>566502972>Sonic and Blaze has better control over their emotionsFalseSONIC has control over his emotions. Blaze is an absolute crash out who pretends to have self-control but will absolutely lose it when you push her over the edge.
>>566503086nta
>>566502998>Sonic isn't hotheaded, he's coolheaded.He's described as hotheaded in bios though. He's chill in most situations until he gets indignant. Then its like you see this side of him people don't expect.
>>566503167>He's described as hotheaded in bios though.No, he's not. Sonic is short tempered, impatient, impulsive, and has attitude, but he is not, nor has he ever been, hotheaded. Sonic is not a hothead at all. Sonic is cool-headed, and that's one of his defining traits since day 1. He never loses his cool, no matter what.
Starline!Well? What do you think of him??
>>566502665Why do Silverspergs always throw a tantrum when you mention one of Silver's character traits
It's Sparky again, isn't it.
>>566502665Silver is the hotheaded one of the SSS trio
Hotheaded describes someone who tends to act impulsively or emotionally when angry. It implies a fiery personality and reacting without thinking.Short-tempered specifically means someone gets angry quickly and easily.“He’s short-tempered” = small things set him off.“He’s hotheaded” = when emotions rise, he rushes into conflict or bad decisions.They overlap a lot in everyday speech, though.
>>566503451Must be. Who else would steer a thread like this after a Spongebob shitpost?
>>566503323He was the best villain IDW had. Only Rough and Tumble come close (which says more about how lame IDWs other villains are), but they occupy a different kind of villainy so they aren't really comparable. I don't have faith that IDW can pull off bringing him back in any meaningful way.
>>566503405They have a misconception about Mr.Silver's personality
Yup, i'm basically a God gamergirl.
>>566503537SSS Trio? More like SSSissy Trio
>>566503676The Deadly Six were great in IDW. Way better than Scuffed and Bungled.
>>566503323>>566503676Need to stick my dick in
>>566503405because Silver's very existence generates so much seethe and hatred to fill up an entire stock of containment casks
>>566503323
>>566503561Oh really? I'm ESL so I didn't know. Sumimasen
>>566503561In Sonic's case, "short tempered" / "impatient" just refers to his core trait of taking action immediately to get things done as soon as possible. >Don't just sit there and waste your precious time. When you wanna do something, do it right away. Do it when you can. It's the only way to live a life without regrets. This is what they're describing when they say he's short tempered. This is where his impulsiveness comes from. It's directly correlated with his speed. But the broader context is that he's a free spirit living life his own way, without any worry. And this is why he's able to live so freely without any worry. Because he never has any regrets. And that circles back around to reinforcing that Sonic is cool-headed and chill, because of the same trait that makes him short tempered and impatient.
>>566503908>PersonaCringe
>>566504451Okay Sparky.
Good morning
>>566503537SSS is a forced meme.
I'm starting to think the official character bios are ass and that Sega is bad at regulating characterizations. Now we have shit like Uwuver.
>>566504178True, at least Zavok was, but they also aren't IDW originals. Also, it took Starline for the unenlightened masses to start appreciating Zavok.
>>566503908Emzberry…
>Crossworlds' hype died before Nickelodeon crossovers >and before they added Surge to the game
>>566504864Fair and agreed. I do like Starline, but I kind of feel like he ran his course. If he does come back, I feel like it will feel too little to late. He doesn't really have the sauce to be a mainstay villain imo. But maybe ill be proven wrong.
>>566505012Lived longer than Discord kart racer world.
>>566504564Sonic should be more like Persona
naka never said he doesn't like amy either, he just said he won't ever ''marry'' (technically not even girlfriend was the question) he approved sonic x which noticeably had more shipteasing than the games.oshima said sonic will forever have a boys heart, so they both say the same thing in technicality.
>>566505630He said Amy made him uncomfortable. He hated her.
>>566488386cute, although i actually do prefer silvaze and sonamy, i might draw silvamy or shadamy myself although i am not a great artist and would probably not expose my accounts on 4chan.
>>566505084I feel like Starline is an ideal for what tertiary actors that fall between Eggman and Sonic should be, at least in something long-form like the comics. I don't know if him coming back is the best option for the comic, but I do think future comic villains should have storylines and character arcs structured in a similar way his was, where he was able to introduce unique interactions and dynamics from the game cast that otherwise wouldn't be explored.It's part of the reason why I like R&T. With R&T you get to see different side of characters like Rouge because she isn't dealing with the game cast.
>>566504829The character bios are fine, Sonic Team is shit at controlling characterization, and their direction for every character and the franchise itself is shit.
Amy Rose Persona spinoff when?
>>566504334
>>566506178Shadow and Rouge are not friends. Cope
>>566505790Sauce?
>>566506279
>>566506212I can fix him
>>566506372Shadougefags admit they're noncanon and coping
>>566506372You hate Sonic.
>>566506279Correct they're comrades with a deep level of respect for each other and a pne-sided crush.
They broke so fast.
>>566506065I can get behind that. I agree Starline is the best IDW villain. His concept is fun and compelling.
>>566506597he's one of the few villians i'd fuckmainly just so i can hear his whimpers
>>566505905Go to the whiteboard and knock yourself out >>566500706
Spicy Shadougefags opened my eyes to the fact that Shadouge sucks
>>566505790he was uncomfortable at the thought of sonic being a ''playboy'' (because madonna was already made with the sonic 1-2 team) not amy existing in itself. a lot of personality traits (such as madonna smothering sonic and him looking overwhelmed at her, the red dress and bobcut etc. were moved on to amy. madonna essentially became amy instead of dying.you're using out of context stuff to fuel schizo theories
>>566506372
>>566500706>https://magma.com/d/B9ypYpjfZ5>>566506721thanks but not in the mood, maybe next week.
>>566506682Can you foid just fuck off
>>566506781Same. Shadouge is trash. I used to like it and make fanfics for it but i realized it is boring and the fans are spiteful people who hate sega
So in conclusion blaze won
>>566507063
>>566507063We're always here. We just pretend to be men.
*loud sex noises*
>>566507101hey i hate sega too! don't care about shatouge though
>>566507208this is what I would ship if I were a bitter balding 35+ year old incel who liked dragon ball.
>>566507257trvke
https://x.com/Infmilk_bsky/status/2053395278313718083
Seems like duofaggotnigger got himself into some hot water.
>>566507546AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CAN'T COPE WITH SILVAZE WINNING AGAIN
>>566507063nah man
>>566499357Still coming to terms that you're here forever I see
sthg femanons, I’m lonely
>>566507546we have this today because some guy couldn't stop thinking about tanabata for a whole minute
You fear the day we get a good main line game. Because then you would have nothing to bitch and moan. You are a prisoner inside your own cell who would throw away the key of your door because you don't know how to live outside this place anymore
>>566507626>>566507626You hate Blaze.
>>566490571I escaped my christo-fascust cult upbringing already.
/sthg/ hates Blaze. The fandom hates Blaze. Sonic Team hates Blaze.
>>566507773Maintaining friendships is hard.
>>566508034Maintaining a boner however, is easy
Setting the /sthg/ mansion on fire with everyone inside it, including myself.
>>566507580He won
>>566503908The Morgana van should've been a car
>Can you stop thinking about tanabata for a whole minute? it's just a story for little girls.
Bureizu!
>>566508140i'd rather boner to starline since he's pathetic once you get rid of his hypnotism
>>566507828Maekawa is a hack, that's why he's making generic weeb slop now.
>>566504228anon you have fine tastei wish to see him whimper(also a hypnotism asmr with him is something i truly desire)
>>566507838Shadow Gen is good, I can still bitch and moan about it because liking something doesn't mean I have to excuse its flaws, fuck the 2D acts and fuck the air speed cap, they don't belong.Other than that, Shadow Gems is proof that Sonic Team's reasoning for why fans hated Forces and tolerated Frontiers is PR bullshit.
>>566508152Duo, all you're doing is arguing relentlessly with people on Xitter instead of doing something meaningful with your life.
>>566508473Better than ian by miles
>>566497412There is nothing more pathetic than raping our planet because you're too pussy to pick up a pencil and make 10k bad drawings until you finally become good at it. Which by the way is only about 3-5 years of consistent daily sketches from life and observation. You will kill the planet just to avoid ego death.
Artist melty indeed
>tanabata mentioned>*falls asleep* zzzzzzzz hooooonk zzzzzzzzzz hoooooonk zzzzzzzzzzz>wake up. can't you stay awake for a whole minute? it's important for the next mission
>>566508676>You will kill the planet just to avoid ego death.That sounds like projection if I ever heard it.
>>566508676>raping our planetthis is gonna be the next big environmentalist hysteria grift after climate change isn't it
villains in rotation aside from eggman InfiniteThe Deadly SixClutch, Rough and TumbleMegumiThe Babalyon Rogues Surge and Kit
>duofagLol.Lmao even.Dare I say roflcopter?
>>566508845crazy how this series is almost 35 years old and the bulk of its villains come from classic games or comics
>>566508819People right now are being left without drinkable water in their own homes because of the data centers needed to support it.
>>566509130nah
>>566508994Shitty character aside, what the fuck is that expression supposed to be?
>>566508818Do you know what ego death means? It's letting go of the bed to be perceived a certain way in order to achieve your desires. Anyone can achieve it all they need is courage and self love. AI bros have neither. I love redemption stories of guys quitting AI and learning how to draw.
>>566509130whining about poor people from third world shitholes is off-topic
>>566509281>bed*need
Mediocre artists acting like they're important is cringe.
>>566509297America really does such huh
>>566509297Actually I'm talking about regular Americans whi are affected by it, but regardless of where in the world it's happening Sonic is about environmentalism so it's on topic.
>>566509297Westniggers are basically third-worlders and deserve to be treated as such by SoJ
AI is important because I no longer have to deal with snobby artists anymore.Ai support is fueled entirely by how unpleasant those people are and the schadenfreude is delicious
>>566509297so is screenshoting botted twitter likes, interesting how you don't have a problem with that
>SEGA posting Amy for Mother's DaySonamy baby when?
>>566509415It's not about being important. My heart actually hurts. You don't get it at all.
>>566508508>Team's reasoning for why fans hated Forces and tolerated Frontiers is PR bullshit.What was it?
>>566509281>It's letting go of the bed to be perceived a certain way in order to achieve your desires.Artists should take their own advice.
>>566509649Go virtue signal on reddit, fag. Maybe you'll get some insincere nods of agreement there
>>566509649Why does it hurt
Duo pulled an /sthg/ on twitter, wow.
>>566509595You're making excuses for what is basically a crack addiction. I don't envy your self-harm.
>>566509596Not really. Imaginary xwitter number should not upset you as much as it does lol
>>566509614
>>566509825I don't envy your empty bank account
>>566509871it doesn't upset me, just calling out your hypocrisy over off-topic posts
>>566510025I'd rather starve to death than use ai willingly.
>>566509594Westerners genuinely hate Sonic, they don't understand it at all and want to change it to appeal to their sensibilities.
>>566510127Okay have fun. Survival of the fittest.
>>566510127>literally a starving artistmaximum kek
>>566509649>>566509825I'm an artist who still draws. AI won't stop artists from drawing, they'll just be less likely to earn for itYou want to earn, step up your creative game
All this because people are afraid to draw for themselves might actually be the great divine comedy of our times. The fear of being mediocre drives people to larp like a Pixar movie villain.
>>566510039>I'm not mad I'm just bitching about something I have no control over to people who don't care Kekoslovakia
>>566510401I'm far from starving lol.>>566510359You literally cannot do things on your own. That is the opposite of survival. You don't read, you don't draw, you can't even think on your own anymore.
>>566510418Nobody takes this as serious as (You).
How do we kill drawfags?
>>566510414I know that. They just don't know it.
AI is good because it makes content I like. AI is bad because it makes people retarded.
>>566510531I have yet to see a written statement from you that exceeds a 2nd grade reading level. Put your money where your mouth is, biatch.
>>566510543nah it's actually very funny how AI users start acting all smug and take pleasure in upsetting people because they think it makes them look like the nonchalant unbothered chad when they have a superiority complex
>>566510531>you don't read literally reading you whining right now >you don't drawdrawing is not the only artistic discipline. lmaoing at such a narrow minded "artist">YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME THAT MEANS YOU DONT THINK FREELYyou are behind parody.
feels like there's a lot of flaseflagging going on right now, thread is just low-effort ragebaiting due to boredom
Who is the most literate sthg anon? What is their opinion on ai?
>>566510543You take it very seriously.
>>566508480I just realized most of you fag posters are female. I thought you guys were real faggot hmoma enjoyers like me... Sorry, I think I need some time alone..
If you don't simp for a company and consume slop, you hate Sonic.
>>566510758Sparky. thoughts?
>>566510797Archie is not canon. Sally is not canon. Sonic will never settle down. Shadouge is not canon. Team dark are not friends.
Lesbian general? :3
>>566510773There are lots of women on their periods in this thread at the moment. Going on about “art” and AI for some dumb fucking reason.
>>566510707>Anybody but snobby drawfags having a superiority complex Oh I am laffin If the vast majority of you were such insufferable faggots you'd have more sympathy to your cause. Instead of shaming people into learning to draw you could've actively been taking on apprentices and taught them to draw but you're all so selfish and greedy that thought never crossed your mind
>>566510708Okay so what books are you reading? What other artistic avenues are you on? What are your thoughts about them?
>>566510915Ywnbaw
>>566510758It's a tool to make work easier like any other. Any faggot can use a nail gun to nail planks together, only an architect can design a house
Whites> pets >>>>>>>>>>>>>> japs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rest
>>566510960most women have lesbian experiences chuddy :3
>>566510875There are multiple canons. Movienic is more relevant and canon than any Sonic game, and is the face of the franchise. >>566510915Fuck off, Ian
>only 10k on the bot siteI've seen anons get more without paying for it and not sniffing their own farts here.
>>566511063Ok moid
>>566510758I personally find most of thr crying about AI to be forced and virtue signally and I say this as an artist myself.If all you do as an artist is draw simple illustrations of existing material, then I can maybe see people worried about it, but when it comes to actually coming up with ideas and concepts, its not a threat at all.That isn't to say there isnt questionable things in regards to how much it is being pushed and all that.People will still want artist from specific artist on the merit of it being by that particular artist as well.
If you like Sonic, you hate anime
>>566510958You're asking me for personal questions that I'd be sharing with friends. The answers of which refute none of my points in the slightest
>>566511063And most women hate each other.
>>566510929There are art books everywhere and tutorials for free everywhere. You can even seek out elder artists to be your mentor right now and they might take you up on it if you are serious and not looking for instant gratification.
>>566510992Westniggers don't even understand basic shit about Sonic.
>>566511103Japs will not survive either
>>566511118i know you aren't a woman because we girls do girly things in private.
>>566510982Eh, not exactly. You're more just putting in other people's things into a machine and spitting something out based on a prompt. It isnt really bringing an idea to life.Not even an anti-AI schizo. It just isnt actually the same.
All of the most retarded sthg anons love ai. All of the most midwit sthg anons hate ai. All of the most intelligent sthg anons see ai neutrally as a tool.Prove me wrong. There's a direct correlation between namefag iq and their thoughts on ai.
>>566511191>It's not my responsibility to raise the next generation! I'll just be an irritating and narcissistic faggot! That'll get em on my side!
>>566510915There are like 50 different gacha generals with yuri as the op. Go jerk off in one of them
>>566511236Japniggers have to corrupt west media to create Sonic.They don't understand golden age cartoons appeal.
>>566511268Ywnbaw
We get it Alota you love drawing.
>>566506756If Sega were cool and edgy
>>566511391Yet Sonic is a Japanese franchise that doesn't belong to Westniggers.
>>566511468>>566511468>>566511468
>>566511131>I can't talk about my hobbies on the hobby website fkr muh safetyWould have honestly respected a more honest answer. Everyone's brains are a little slopified these days. I myself spend more time watching youtube videos than I care to admit.
>>566511347>shocked the purest form of love is so popular
>>566511487And it fails compared to multiple western ips. Can't even sell in japan
>>566511531It's not about safety, it's about me not wanting to have conversations about stuff I like with people like (You)
>>566511338Genuinely asking, do you struggle with reading comprehension? I am helping you start your journey for drawing. How to draw books and tutorials literally are artists mentoring the next generation through literature. You can find the contact info of people who teach art and email them saying you're looking for a mentor. Get out and do it.
>>566511660sega stockholder detected
>>566511661You don't talk like someone who likes anything desu
>>566511103KEK
>>566508152No-one respects him here, no-one respects him publicly, the only thing he's managed to do here is train a model to take other people's arts and then used them to make art of other people's ocs all for the purposeMan can't do anything himself but think it's an own that he can make art like other people using a computer and if anyone gets annoyed he counts it as a winHe could learn to create and does not, because this gets him more attention and it will some years yet before he learns that being hated is not fulfilling in the slightest.
