Season 5 Edition- Xenoverse 3 announced- Xenoverse 2 final DLC announced- Two anime series have been announced: DBS: Beerus (with Frieza teaser) and DBS: Galactic Patrol- FighterZ new balance update is out- Gekishin Squadra is out• XENOVERSE 3 - ANNOUNCEMENT TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/v_Copbn4ASI• XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/QEQGg81nGqg• SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/_5Cr9BOt98c• FIGHTERZ - GOKU SS4 DAIMA TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/qTfxD54fMHs• GEKISHIN SQUADRA - SQUADRA TALK SEASON 5https://youtu.be/0y6nO9H_Evk• KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw>Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 4 DLC will launch this SummerSDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot news:>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15thThe Breakers news:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>565664398
why did they delete the thread?
>>566562637WTF happened?
Mods must not have liked that Bulma pic. lol
>>566563094That's so gay if it's the reason, it didn't even show anything. It was softer than your average Azur Lane skin.
I'm bored, even more so knowing that VJUMP is going to be a retread of the information given out at the battle hour
Kill gooners
>>566563094bit weird to do it after it's been up a few days, usually they just nuke the OP pic in those cases
>>566563590you'd basically have to nuke this board to accomplish that
>>566563590Go back to twitter
The new Sparking Zero update really needs to fix the game's mechanics. Otherwise, the hype will only last like a month or two
>>566563840good, let it happen. maybe slower generals would survive the mobile game spam.
...Guess we start anew.
I played NPC Battle once and one of my teammates got angry and surrendered.My god, what a fucking retard! How can you get angry in NPC battles?
>>566565696Which game?
>>566566000Squadra
>comfy thread nukedsigh
>>566567226Bruh, unless you had a teammate AFK, I don't see how you could be mad at a NPC battle
>>566568067We can't have nice things
Maybe they released this is just a Dragon Ball general that barely talks about video games
>>566572063OP probably just copped a sitewide purge for posting CP or gore on some other board
>>566572063>releasedLmao
>>566572242Could have been a ban evader or snuck something into the OP as well.
>>566562781>>566563061Because the retard OP used a stupid gooner Pic for it
AIEEEE FRIEZA! NO YAMATE!!!
>>566573950>Because the retard OP used a stupid gooner Pic for itWouldn't they just delete the pic if that was the reason? >>565848761>>566571720
>>566572242>>566573450>>566573950You should still go back to twitter.
>>566574385You should stop using a website you hate the moderation of
>>566565696There's a chance 2/4 of your teammates were also bots. Bots always surrender, so if the other real player chooses to surrender like a retard, they'll surrender too.
>>566574120>>566574385Stop acknowledging that faggot
Xenoverse 3 trailer during Summer Games Fest or Tokyo Game Show?
Soooo, any thoughts on the new characters? >Bowling Ball frieza > Bulma (Not Hag) > Echo fighter Goku DaimaAlso would it had been better use those sphere bikes or a hover jet instead of what bulma has? Or you anons feel it's okay?
>>566575902Unlikely.>>566575953I'm very happy Kid Goku and Bulma are in the game at all.
>>566575953the devs probably used the car because broly, kale, bojack, fat Majin buu and cooler are big characters. Its probably a way for the devs to cut cost by not adding extra unique animation for those characters.
>>566575902Probably TGS or Gamescon. SGF will probably have trailers for XV2 and SZ though.
>>566575953>FreezaI expected him to be added eventually. I noticed he only uses moves from the Goku fight before Goku went SS1, which leaves room for a 100% Freeza. He's going to be a defensive monster, and if he's too overtuned, matches will stall a lot...>BulmaShocking. I'd expect her to be a helper if she were to be added. Either a skill or ult is her giving a ride to someone else and stunning them which's interesting. She could be the most fun out of the three from the little they showed.>GokuHe could be fun but I don't see anything that stands out.
https://youtu.be/jBTnn9_mf3k
>>566579007Saying that after the current season was dogshit with 3 OP pay to win character at once without nerfs is insane.
Holy shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkQsWqzjm8
>>566579829Looks cool. What happened to that french guy's Raging Blast 3 project?
>>566579814The biggest problem from the looks of season 5 is the face they're keeping Hammers. That divine draw where attacks heal teammates is not looking good too. Season 4 was terrible, and 5 keeping at least one of its problems, and adding another possible one is just gonna be bad. Hopefully Hammers and the 3 season 4 characters get nerfed...
>>566580431Last I checked it'd still being updated with new characters
If we had a Multidimensional Goku war, who would win?
Based Torishima- He was strongly against making Goku an adult. He was seriously worried it would kill DB's sales.- He hated how Toei handled the Piccolo Daimao fight. The team was the same one from Dr. Slump who are great at comedy but sucks at fight scenes. This was one of the low points.- Because of that mess, they decided to rebrand the franchise with Dragon Ball Z and bring in a new team.- The team who worked on Z is the same one that worked on Saint Seiya.- Torishima considers these two moments the toughest in Dragon Ball's entire history.- The actual reason it's called Z is because Toriyama thought Z was the last letter of the alphabet, so nothing more would come out after it.- When DB ended, the manga industry crashed down. According to him, GT was made because otherwise half the industry would lose their jobs.- On the subject of Dragon Ball Daima, Torishima made it no secret to express his disdain and said: "Daima is shit. Everyone at Toei hates me. Daima betrays Dragon Ball; it's slow, stupid and the first episode is useless. I have no idea how it was approved in the first place."- Torishima thinks old manga are much better than modern manga.- Torishima says today's manga suck because they rarely take the actual print into account. They don't take into consideration the two pages of a spread and he blames smartphones for it.- Torishima also criticized modern manga heavily. He says most current series are overloaded with narration and explanations. A proper manga page should be readable in just 3 seconds, echoing the philosophy of the Father of Manga, Osamu Tezuka.- According to Torishima, Weekly Shonen Jump (and manga in general) became much wordier as the readership aged. Mangaka began writing for adults instead of kids, changing the whole style.- He thinks One Piece sucks because it's no longer really a manga for kids due to that.- Torishima doesn't think there's a single good manga today.
>>566580431>>566584304Is RB3 an actual playable mod, or is it still concepts after all this time?
>>566585802Just found this in my recommendedhttps://youtu.be/7zkQsWqzjm8?si=v8vUnIDmH3FctlfL
>>566585802No idea>>566584304That's cool.>>566585576Crazy how he was wrong about everything.
my feedback for the survey
>>566585576GODrishima LOVES GT and HATES flopma.
>>566584535Trapped and Betrayed, easy
>>566592943your feedback will go straight into the trash can without being read.thank you for playing.
>>566593009flopma dick in yo mouf
>>566584535Our Goku.>>566592943They still haven't added more maps?
>>566593967>They still haven't added more maps?Nope, it'd be such an easy win to change things up too. Like I said, keep the layout but change aesthetics. Nighttime version, jungle version, anything except desert
>>566575902
>>566594226Any leaks on when the SZ expansion is coming out?
>dlc has 30+ characters>first trailer reveals 10>second trailer reveals 18I find it weird how they blew their load on the second trailer, I guess there are only 7 or 8 characters max left to reveal in the final trailer
>>566596870It was the big event, they needed to advertise properly. The last trailer will probably just be dropped on their youtube and that's it. I miss the regular SZ trailers inthe run-up to the release, shit was hype, hope XV3 does something similar
I want to warn xenoverse 2 players about somethingDon't expect anything big for the final DLC, they just don't care to be showy like thatKakarot's final DLC was just the final battle of Daima, you can't even control super saiyan 4 mini or super saiyan 4 adult goku outside of the gomah fight, to play as those you have to do the fight again.Breakers dropped raider Z Broly and nothing else for it's last DLCFighterZ dropped super saiyan 4 Goku and dipped Xenoverse 2 will likely drop ultra supervillain fu, ultrasupervillain chrona and ultra supervillain ultra instinct goku and dip
>>566598705>you can't even control super saiyan 4 mini or super saiyan 4 adult goku outside of the gomah fight, to play as those you have to do the fight againWait, I knew about the adult one, but you can't even turn in mini SS4 in the post-game?
>>566572063/sthg/ wouldn't exist if they cared about multimedia and shitposting dominating the thread.
>>566599642you canhe tried doomposting but FAILED
Is Sparking Zero over after the next update? Should I just give up on the hopes of playable Oceanus Shenron until Xeno3? where I'll probably be disappointed again
>>566562637actual bulma's bulmas last thread >>566301637
>>566585576someone tell him kids are not the ones spending money on merchandise and this whole entertainment industry is funded by arrested development adultshe's literally complaining about the people making his job a thing to begin with
>>566600976just play Heroes, she even gets a new form there
>>566600976you'll never see any GT villains be playable outside of Baby, Omega, Super 17, Shen and Shin because they're the only popular ones, not even the coomers want Ocean because she was weak as fuck, they didn't even need super saiyan forms to beat her and the fact that she's either actually a trans character or has a rally male looking true form makes her even more off putting for them, the other shadow dragons might as well not even exist, they matter as much as Miyu and Rillio and those stupid dancers and even then if it weren't for the memes super 17 would be in the same boat, he only gets in because he's cheap roster filler with little funding required to get him made, it's why they made Hell Fighter 17 his own character, he's even cheaper just Android 17 with his Future personality
>>566602368>they didn't even need super saiyan forms to beat herneither did Kid Goku against Cell and Frieza in hell lol
Why is Broly so popular?
>>566563590And make Toriyama cry?
>>566602368The U7 girls, a lone wolf from the trio of nobodies, and Anilaza of all characters made it into Sparking Zero. None of them are popular, Roasie jobbed to a tired base Goku, and the only fuckable one's Kakunsa. If you really wanna use popularity as a raw qualifier, then none of the OG DB-only characters should ever make it into anything.
>>5666030727 Words>E S E N C I A
>>566604150those are letters
>>566604150Exudes Sexual Energy Never Captured In Anime?
>>566602368>muh retarded memesSuper 17 made it into games before you were born, kiddo.
>>566602653>>566603778>>566604973GTfags really do deserve less.
>>566605398>no argument>just nonsense babbleRemember when you thought GT wouldn't get into FighterZ, or Sparking Zero, or Gekishin, or [anynewmoderngame]?lol lmao
>>566585576Goku becoming an adult is quite literally the reason why Dragon Ball got so good
Now look and behold at my original donut steel SUPER characters!
>>566607890
>>566607912>Goku becoming an adult is quite literally the reason why Dragon Ball got so goodThanks to Torishima we have DBZ. He's also why the Cell saga was actually good. Toriyama wanted an old guy and a clown to be the villain. Torishima shot it down. So Toriyama came up with the hot twin teenage girl villains. Torishima also shot that down. So Toriyama had to settle for a voredroid bug monster which Torishima approved of.Torishima also had Toriyama write Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.
>>566608583>Thanks to Torishima we have DBZTorishima was against adult Goku though.>He's also why the Cell saga was actually goodWas Torishima even still the editor at that point? Also, Cell was the weakest arc and I'd rather see the original plans unfold.
>>566608006>which makes them even stronger than a Super Saiyan.Man, what a shit fusion, they're already stronger than an SSJ on their own.
>>566608746>Was Torishima even still the editor at that point?Torishima left around Piccolo Daimao. The editor that followed was the one who pushed Toriyama to do more world ending threats because that boosted Dragon Ball's popularity during Piccolo and is what led to Saiyajin and Freeza in particular.After King Piccolo/Piccolo Jr., Vegeta & Freeza, the fans would have been completely disappointed if Android 19 & 20 were the big villains of the next arc. Toriyama wanted to make the next villains go back to having goofier designs, but Torishima knew that's not what the fans wanted.At least in Cell's arc the editors were the ones bitching about the designs "and oldman and a fatman?", "just two teenagers?", "he looks too bland, but he still can transform right?" "he looks like a moron!". If anything, Kondo and Torishima were the ones that made Toriyama go for more serious designs. Toriyama said he originally had more plans for Semi Perfect Cell but decided to rush him to Perfect Form after Torishima complainedToriyama changed the villains from 19/20 to 16/17/18 in response to a phone call from Torishima, who was not his editor at the time, but Toriyama respected his opinions regardless. You can see the precise moment that editor left during Cell, when Toriyama introduced Satan and had more comedic beats like Kaio-sama's death.
>>566608746>>566585576According to Nakatsuru, they told Toriyama>This is another AU >They wanted Goku to be a kid again>Super Saiyan 4 has to appear What we know about Toriyama's involvement in Daima from the BD release>Toriyama didn't just write a rough draft like he did in Super, he wrote detailed instructions for every episode>Toriyama designed almost every character in the series. Everyone except SS4 Goku.>Toriyama wrote lots of dialogue for every episode. He wrote every gag in the series.>Toriyama came up with Duu's "n'cha!" catchphrase.>Toriyama wrote musical notes on Neva's dialogue to explain how he talks>Toriyama came up with the idea of the demon realm having a convenience store to make it feel more like our worldTorishima said, "Daima nanka kuso anime" in Japanese. So yeah, he literally called Daima shit and right in front of Iyoku and Nakatsuru's faces.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7DaeJ3TFMFM
>>566608967The Cell arc issues run a bit deeper than villain design, so I'm more interested in seeing the original outline personally
>>566609118>Toriyama does his own take on GT>it's infinitely worseExactly what I needed to be satisfied. Based Torishima.
>>566609118>>This is another AU >>They wanted Goku to be a kid again>>Super Saiyan 4 has to appearThey didn't.
>>566609118>Old irrelevant grifter had a tantrum that was ignored by people with actual power over the franchise as they made billions off of what he was crying aboutLol. Lmao.>Toriyama came up with Duu's "n'cha!" catchphrase.That's Arale's catchphrase, it was a reference, not something anyone came up with.
>>566609656>Exactly what I needed to tell myself to cry myself to sleep more easilyHow does it feel to be the only GTfag in the world?
>>566609118>According to Nakatsuru, they told ToriyamaI checked everything Nakatsuru said in the last 6 years and none of the 3 things you listed show up anywhere.>>566608583>Thanks to Torishima we have DBZ.That's the exact opposite of reality, he was seething at Z and never wanted Goku to become adult, him fucking off is exactly what made the series explode in popularity, he was holding back DB like crazy.> He's also why the Cell saga was actually good.That would be Toriyama, all Torishima did is cry and seethe about designs, which created plotholes when changed.>Torishima also shot that down.Torishima didn't do shit, he had no power over Toriyama at that point or anyone else really.>So Toriyama had toDo whatever he wanted because he was relevant and Torishima was not, nobody in the universe would side with Torishima over Toriyama at that point and Toriyama had a shit ton more money, influence and authority than him.>Torishima also had Toriyama write Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.No, he didn't, Torishima never had any pull at Toei at all to begin with.>>566608967>after Torishima complainedIt was Toriyama's current editor at the time who said Semi Perfect Cell looked dumb, not Torishima.
>>566609656>it's infinitely worseExcept in term of quality, animation, humor, fights, designs, popularity, character moments, ratings, success, lore, quality, world building, new characters, public opinion, revenue and quality.
>>566607742>Remember when you were right and made me seetheYes, we all do. It's still funny how mad you were and still are and how Super 17 still has made it nowhere except DLC fodder for Sparking Zero.
Z movies were supervised by Toriyama and he designed most of the movie characters>Toriyama-sensei drew all the enemy characters, such as Coola and Neiz, up to and including a height-comparison chart. They even came with colors, so there was no need to change them. There would be no point in changing them. (laughs) It made it a breeze being the one making them, so I was grateful.>The enemies this time were all Toriyama-sensei’s designs. I was amazed every time at the abundance of characters Sensei could pull out of thin air.— Minoru MaedaThe absolute GOAT
Are we really gonna have to deal with the dude pretending he gives a shit about Torishima melting down every few hours until he stops getting a mostly negative response to whatever he was trying to hype up again?
>>566611040>supervised by ToriyamaThat's fancy wording for 'He gave the okay to the synopsis and did a bunch of designs we asked him for'.He didn't actually monitor the scripts or anything like that.
>>566611040>>566611195With the exception of BOG and ROF, where it started as the usual but then Toriyama got hyped and reworked the whole thing of course.
>>566611043
>>566611040>mostDepends on the movie. There's some movies where he designed a lot more characters and some movies where he designed a lot less characters.
>they were already showing off the Cooler movie before Goku even defeated FreezaWhat happened here?
>>566611195Toriyama's contributions to DB anime>Toriyama coined the title “Dragon Ball Z” itself>Yamcha as a Baseball Player>Piccolo’s practice of splitting into two and fighting himself was originally Toriyama’s idea. We first see this type of training utilized in Dragon Ball Z episode 15>Goku’s Adventures Along Serpent Road>Toriyama had written a memo to the anime staff outlining most of the Saiyan and Tsufruian backstory that appears in Dragon Ball Z episode 20>Toriyama’s idea that Namekians have a weakness to high frequency noises such as whistling>Toriyama’s idea to create the voices of fused characters by having the actors of each character say their lines simultaneouslyCharacter designs>Dr Wheelo>Tree of Might>Cooler, Salza, Dore, and Neiz>Android 13, Android 14, Android 15>Broly and Paragus>Bojack, Gokua, Zangya, Bido>Paikuhan>Dai Kaiō>Janemba Final Form>Tapion and Minotia>In his Dragon Box GT intro, he says that “in car lingo, GT means ‘Gran Turismo’: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean ‘Grand Touring’, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.”>Dragon Box GT, Toriyama explains that “For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images.>Toriyama wrote Battle of Gods and Resurrection F>Toriyama came up with Beerus & Whis, Champa & Vados, Goku Black, Zamasu, Gowasu, Cabba, Caulifla, Tournament of Power, Dyspo, Top, Jiren>Toriyama wrote Broly and Super Hero>Toriyama created the Heeters>Toriyama wrote Super's last chapters with Piccolo to wave goodbye to Pan's kindergarten teacher
>>566612080>Toriyama came up with CauliflaWhat a way to go out. Poisoning the well forever. There was also Daima too, I guess.
>>566612838Who's that semen demon?
>>566612080Toriyama's contributions 2/2>Mira, Towa, and Time Patrol Trunks in XenoverseSuper>I made his hair light blue to express how “by overcoming a certain limit he has become both strong and tranquil, able to keep his composure in a fight”.>I gave Vegeta black clothes because I figured that maybe Bulma had modified his combat uniform to add some slight improvements. On that note, it was constructed by the [Capsule Corp.] development branch under Bulma’s instructions.>Golden Freeza. Since there was no way I could possibly make his design any simpler than it already was, I opted to mostly just change his color. This color feels strongest, maybe because I associate it with Gold Medals?>If you’re a soldier in Freeza’s army, you can have [a Scouter] made to order to fit your ear. The different screen colors can be chosen to fit the peculiarities of different aliens’ eyes, or to suit one’s tastes. Also, dual-eye types exist as well.>U6 tournament to apologize because of the unfinished tournaments at the very start and end of the “Majin Boo Arc”>Goku Black is something Toriyama wanted to try out just once. Something like “False Ultraman” or “False Kamen Rider”>Toriyama considers Zamasu so fastidious that it backfired>Tournament of Power draft flat-out said “80 people fighting all in a jumble”>Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo, and the God of Destruction Quitela were the first characters drawn for ToP by Toriyama>Toriyama-sensei‘s background for Toppo included that he was a candidate for God of Destruction, Universe 2 Ribrianne’s fat appearance from after she transforms was also designed by Toriyama-sensei>The surprise of Freeza replacing Boo in the end was also Toriyama-sensei‘s idea. >Super manga chapters 101-103 were written by Toriyama
>>566579007I don't understand faggots like this dude>SS3 GOKU, BROLY, ULTIMATE GOHAN, SS4, VEGITO, BARDOCK, KEFLA, GODKU GODGETALike they already went through a fucking truckload of these "hype" characters and it's not like they lit the charts on fire lmao, and I'm supposed to think that an OG character will kill the game?Also they clearly put Bulma in the game because she has like a gazillion outfits they can sell as skins
>>566608746>>566610519>Torishima was against adult Goku though>That's the exact opposite of realityHe's talking about the actual anime, not the "Z-portion" of the story. Torishima hated the Dragon Ball anime. It was specifically the final fight with King Piccolo when he decided something HAD to be done. He poached staff from the Saint Seiya anime, an adaptation he really liked, and had them "salvage" the last arc of OG Dragon Ball while he was busy making deals to relaunch the series with a higher budget. Torishima is why Dragon Ball Z exists.
>No Daima Bulma in Gekishin Squadradying game.
>>566613706Saiyaman X-1 & Saiyaman X-2 designs and corrections by Akira Toriyama!Toriyama corrected the muscles and made them less bulky since they’re high schoolers
What if they adapt the original 3 hour script Toriyama wrote for Broly for Super kai?
>>566598705>FighterZ dropped super saiyan 4 Goku and dippedIt's already a perfect game, ala Budokai 3
>>566615679>Budokai 3 perfect gameDragon Rush and Goku, Bardock, and Cell intensifies
>>566614853I think it's safe to assume that's what they will be doing. As well as adapting the highschool arc from Super Heros manga version Would make both pretty tight 6 episode arcs
>>566616483>>566614853>Super KaiWhat exactly are Toei doing? Are we getting Super Manga Edition or a hybrid?
>>566618790It's probably going to vary depending on the arc. Somewhere between a visual remaster and a pacing recut that might pick up or drop scenes.It's definitely not a "manga edition" but I think it's fair to expect some elements being carried over
FINALLY! Got just what I wanted
>>566615679Not until they remove that garbage ass announcer.
>>566616483>safe to assume they'll be adding 2 more hours of movie quality contentyeah right lmao
>>566619660Beerus looks like a retard in this game with his fangs out like that
>>566620670>movie qualityI never said this4 episodes of tv isn't exactly a big expectation
>>566614853They're going to squeeze every last drop out of Akira Toriyama now that he's dead.
>>566618790it's gonna be a super's recut, that's it. Some scenes are getting redrawn but nothing major is gonna change, let alone it getting stuff from movies or mangaaka, basically what kai itself already did, except kai got the other side of the coin and the redraws were made in ms paint, while the actual bad stuff (uchiyama episodes) stayed exactly the same. Honestly Z needs what super is getting even more, for the uchiyama episodes alone
>>566614853They could take stuff from the script if they intend to redo Broly. Like with the original RoF anime retelling they stretched it out and added more Goku and Vegeta training, Ginyu and Gotenks stuff. If there was an anime version of Broly they could pick out elements that didn't make it into the movie but this time can say it was from Toriyama. The original movie was 100mins, if they want at least 6 eps they'll need a little more something.
>>566624363>aka, basically what kai itself already did, except kai got the other side of the coin and the redraws were made in ms paint, while the actual bad stuff (uchiyama episodes) stayed exactly the same. Honestly Z needs what super is getting even more, for the uchiyama episodes aloneDragon Ball itself needs a remake, from Pilaf to Kid Buu, considering many animators are keen on doing it (Daima Ep 1 recap)
How should games handle Moro?
Will this old man yelling at a Cloud really be the main theme of conversation in any DB threads going forward?
>>566625569transformation absorbing 73 like Cell
I think the big SZ reveal they are saving is not a character but (very limited) custom moves for the new mode. Like training with Roshi at Kame House will let you change your Blast 1 to the kamehameha no matter who you are playing as.
>>566627518I don't understand why they're still hiding content from this DLC
>Streamer crying that Tenkaichi 2 is too hard>open up the game>demolish everything in sight, first time playing the gameok? At least I'm playing a good game now.
>>566579007>>566613829>Spends the entire stream today talking about Bulma needing to be removed from the game>shouts directly into the mic "I. LIKE. BULMA AS A CHARACTER!!!!" Holy mental illness.
>>566635901I actually knew about this guy, when Gekishin released I watched a bunch of streamers to learn about the game since all this stuff was new to me. He was butthurt that Bandai didn't choose him as an official content creator (official shill) or whatever. Clearly they made the right choice, if he was going to throw a bitch fit and declare the game dead the moment it got a character he didn't like.
I'm sorry but you can't make a video about how much you hate getting Bulma without sounding lika a homosexual
>>566638120even ignoring the blatantly fag undertones it's probably one of the stupidest opinions to have>no man i don't want a unique character, we need MORE gokus and vegetas! (but not that goku he's not hype enough)
i love bulma!
>>566625569I'm kind of angry we won't have any game with a cool Boss Battle with Moro because if CC2 won't make one then nobody will.It's the only way he could get cool stuff like passive energy drain or the giant head.
>>566624581I'm not sure they're getting there at all. There's a year between Beerus and tentative Galactic Patrol release date (at least according to that whats-his-face eceleb). Doing the entire Super Kai in the meantime might not be in the pipeline, especially if the project was to be high effort.
>>566613829>Like they already went through a fucking truckload of these "hype" characters and it's not like they lit the charts on fire lmao, and I'm supposed to think that an OG character will kill the game?It's even weirder he's screaming about that when the season is adding Freeza as its first character, so this season just has less "hype" characters. I think he's butthurt because Black wasn't added like so many believed. Some thought SS4 Gogeta was coming too, so I can see why some are complaining, but it's still ridiculous after the game overdid with the hype characters... Plus, how many years have we had people asking for Bulma to be playable in any game? It almost never happens to begin with...
>>566644921god i dont know how anyone can take this shit seriously with how often the "guest artist" they get on to do these chapters often have the most antithetical art style to dragonball ever.the art isnt even bad its just like, why can they not find more guest artists that don't draw in hyper realism?
>>566646160I agree but this is one of the least bad special chapters if I'm being fair. It's antithetical to Dragon Ball style but at least it's a decent style in a vacuum, for a change.
fusions 2
fusions 3
>>566664562Would you?
>>566614170>Torishima hated the best OG DB arc and he moved around some staff aroundSo him fucking off and being irrelevant with his terrible taste is why we got DBZ? Cool.>>566626069No, it's just one retard periodically spamming it because he's mad we laughed at Torishima the first time he posted what he said.
>>566613829If anything a classic Waifu is exactly the kind of character that sell well in a MOBA.
>>566635901>Holy mental illness.Dude is losing it because he's got a cute girl instead of 'hype', it's SUCH a weird mindset.
>>566618790According to themselves, they're making a Enhanced version / cut of DBS, that's all, they made no other promise.
>>566619660Congrats
>>566638742>(but not that goku he's not hype enough)Which is crazy because Kid Goku's fight in Kakarot was one of the best.>>566639046DB games in general are obsessed with rosters and it's incompatible as a focus with boss battles.
>>566562637For the love of god let xenoverse 3 being an actual MMO instead of a arena fighter.
>>566670273>an actual MMOEw. The MMO stuff is the worst part of XV2.
>>566671651cause it's half baked and half assed. Gear/stats and super souls are mainly used to make cheesy pvp builds. Your build doesn't matter in PvE because it's piss easy. Also everyone's just spamming ultimate attacks so you have yo awkwardly stand around and wait your turn to damage to the boss. Arena fighters don't make good MMO's. Where's the support/healing tank classes? It's almost like they implemented MMO stats to arena fighter and didn't think it through at all, Hell BT2 and BT3 did stats on characters better.
>>566670273>For the love of god let xenoverse 3 being an actual MMO instead of a arena fighter.lmao, they wouldn't be able to sell 30 character packs then
Fuck this shit, I'm gonna ask you all discuss something that's been on my mind since the announcement of 3 and the trailerLet's assume the races are still here and by the idol character that demons are playable, what awokening do you think they'll have among these possibilities? Fu's completed Ultra supervillain power as it seems like the green we see in that trailer is hinting at something.The third eye? It seems to only activate if you stick it on your forehead like Tien's eye as Hybus had it on his belt for decades yet it never did anything for him.the halo like forms from Heroes which were basically taking Zamasu's one scene with it and making it a form kind like how Gogeta's rndom ass red hair in ss4 in GT became the limit breaker form in heroes and eventually became the bases for toryama's version of super saiyan 4.the weird one off Super Fu form he had in heroes where his hair spiked up and his eyes turned red the form Mira takes at the end of xenoverse 2?or if that's too in the realm of baseless speculation for you how about super saiyan blue evolved, do you think that awokening will return in xenoverse 3 now that we know it's a toei only creation and doesn't exist in canon like blue kaioken?
>>566676468I feel like the Third Eye might be an all-race thing, since you can just buy it at a convenience store. And both Mira and Fu's forms only exist because they have Saiyan DNA. I think the best bet is the Demon God forms Demigra and his kin have.
>>566676468>doesn't exist in canon like blue kaioken?Both are canon. The anime is the canon. Your question is based on a false premise.
>>566676468The first trailer shows John 1000 transforming into a Super Saiyan after scrolling past a bunch of characters' silhouettes and stopping at Goku. I believe this is meant to be Transpheres from Breakers, and that all CaC will have access to all transformations as long as they have the correct Transpheres. So you could have a Super Saiyan God Namekian with the SSG Goku Transphere.
>>566677543speaking of those, anyone with the game and transpheres feels like taking pics of each form on the CAC male and female? maybe looking at that we can semi guess what forms the CACs will have in xenoverse 3
>>566676468>it's a toei only creationWhether or not you consider the manga or anime canon is up to you, but the fact of the matter is, if it's not in the show, it'll have no real presence in the game. Blue Evolution is in the anime, thus, it's on the table for XV3. Plus, it's already in 2. Why would they go backwards and remove it?
>>566677715The fact Breakers is still not Free to Play is insane to me.
>>566677715I don't have the game installed anymore but only SSJ4 looked any different. otherwise it was just palette swaps for the hair. SSJ4 added some bulk to the shoulders and arms, the red eyeliner, and the girls got tube top bras.
Finally reach player rate A4 in gekishin squadra anons, i can finally rest since solo q is fuckass hellAlso bulma and goku should have gotten the bunny suit outfit, fuck it, give it to frieza too>>566625569Goat man instead of whatever the fuck this version was>>566682019Breakers wasnt f2p? Jesus fuck how did it kept alive?
While designing Frieza the dev team ran into a hurdle. Frieza's third form has no reference sheets that depict him with a full tail. His concept art and reference materials all depict him with a chopped tail. Therefore even if left undamaged during a match the model stil depicts some sort of indication of battle damage. Even worse if you start with third form frieza his tail is still chopped. We have no source materials that we can borrow from to design a fully intact tail, though some exist its not original source material. Meaning we would have to design our own, which we feel isnt true to form. Making first form armor optional was also included, and currently mulling over Krillin imagination of a hypothetical final form. Though it is burdened by the same prospects. But it feels like something a game hasnt offered before. Also ran into this issue when debating the inclusion of ozotto, specifically his concept art second form.
>>566686909it's just a simple point for form 1, 2, and 4. why would it be any different for 3? I don't think a single person would complain.
>>566686909Just went to check the SZ site and while he does have a full tail with a purple tip in game, his profile artwork hides it
English dub philosopher superman Goku has returned. I don't play Squadra, but I remember someone here posted a clip of him quoting the Hope of the Universe speech too.https://x.com/RequiemDiamond/status/2053623245832679918
>>566686526>Breakers wasnt f2p?Yup, it's still a paid game.
>>566689658No dude, old woman goku is the best!!
>>566693023She is indeed.
>>566689658My dislike of Schemmel throughout the years only continues to grow.
Caulifla in a dress
>Try out Gekishin again>Opposing team has one of the characters released this season>Is able to 2v1 my full health teammates>One of my teammates is 100% a bot and just kept pinging the other team's tower and rushing at it over and over again while getting killed over and over again>Alt-F4 5 minutes into the matchAnd right back into the Recycling Bin it goes.What wasted potential of a game.
SD is so funny.
>>566698163>GokuPicco fujo lets her fetish seep into her professional workshocked, I tell you. SHOCKED
>>566698445>Vegetafag is mad Goku is rejecting his manlet
>>566698445have some more then
Why are people on twitter so hyped for 'Goku vs Moro'? That fight was nothing special in the manga.
>>566699172People are probably just hype to see Ultra Instinct animated again since we haven't seen it in any official capacity in an animated fashion really since the end of Super.Unless you count promo Heroes crap.
>>566699341UI in the manga does none of the cool things people actually liked about UI tho.
>>566699341>>566699734Another thing: They talk about it like it's one continuous 1v1, meanwhile they have multiple fights at multiple times, with different characters jumping and out like Vegeta or Buu or Meerus.
>>566698908
>>566700342Do you think actors write the scrypt?
>>566700342Because localizers deserve the bullet
Think they will update survival mode when the dlc comes out
>>566701132With what?
>>566700342>AH it's Big Green!
>>566701350With the new characters, make it 245 (?) instead of 208
>>566701864Probably, yeah
>>566703962You forgot him beating Vegeta multiple times
>>566703962>>566704004Also he very much did beat Jeice and then Ginyu.
>>566703962Why do you count Piccolo Jr but not the other tournaments?
I taught myself to do that hand movements trunks does before the burning attack (although I used Budokai 2's version)
>>566704232>Could have killed Freeza with the genki damaNah, I have to disagree on that, the Genkidama was never killing Freeza. He was barely scratched up.>>566704268Based.What's the difference?
>>566704415His 4D chess against Frost was neat.The entire Super Hero thing was basically his movie.
>>566704412The anime version is different and too fast to track normallyB2 lets you use that meter so you can open the ps2 disc tray and it'll loop endlessly if timed right
>>566704232>Captain Ginyu melts down over Goku's 180,000 power levelIt took me years to realize saiyan saga Ozaru Vegeta could take out the Ginyu force, he really was a top dog on Frieza's Force and not just ego
>>566705128>It took me years to realize saiyan saga Ozaru Vegeta could take out the Ginyu forceNo, he couldn't.>he really was a top dog on Frieza's ForceNo, he wasn't, he was literally losing in a rivalry against Kiwi.
>>566705128If Yajirobe could cut his tail and Goku could blast his eye, Reecome could have punched straight to his brain with no difficulty.
I asked Chat which characters could still become canon in the event Dragonball ever resumes with new arcs and this is who it spat out? How accurate is it? Chat is just wikipedia with a pretend personality so I don't trust it to be completely accurate, it's effectively data and chart gathering for people to lazy to open microsoft excel myself included.
>>566705735Krillin cut Frieza's tail
With xenoverse 3's reveal it's really become fucking annoying seeing all the fake thumbnails and videos pretending they just got official news, I miss the days of video game magazines, the information super highway has become a den of AI infested lies and people who actively make money off spewing bullshit for days on end and when called out on it cry victim. Maybe video game mags did it too but nowhere near to this level of extent and reach, pisses me off, man. mass lying becoming a leigitmate business venture is one of humanities greatest mistakes, right up there with worshiping sports and tv people like they're somehow above all of us just because of how much money they have.
>>566706336We're talking about Vegeta.
>>566698908This is NOT okay
>>566706042Cooler being high is cope.Towa and Mira are possible because they were always Toriyama's pet characters but the 'future arcs' justification make no sense.Turles could make sense with a Sadala arc, same for Bojack but low chances.
>>566707219Not really
>>566704713Fair observation. He still made some great things before and after though.
>>566707219As far as Z movie villains go he's probably only behind Broly and Janemba, but with a really big gap between them
>>566706409mass lying has always been a booming business, and magazines very much did this too. I fucking remember 20ish years ago buying a magazine that was literally all fan theories about upcoming stuff, that the magazine literally paraded as true news coming from official sourcesonly cool thing about magazines is that you ended up reading a small article somewhere int about a relatively unknown game that looked cool (and most of the time it was jp only), but that's it
>>566709106Not really. Seeing the clown in the first episode made me know the final villailn would be unserious.
are these devs retarded?
>>566712358It was really a first in the history of the franchise, I think. A serious final battle with a thoroughly unserious villain. Pilaf arc never really had a proper final battle with the Pilaf gang just getting destroyed and the final struggle being neutralizing Ozaruku, in Red Ribbon Army, commander Red just gets killed by his subordinate. Overall, it didn't work well for Daima. I think another common theory was Duu going out of control, and trying to calm him down would be the endgoal.
The problem with Daima is that seemed like they had all these conceps yet never really wanted to go in deph with themGlorio has a past with Airasu but we never see itGlorio is unnaturally strong for a demon yet we never know why? Airasu despite being a baddie turned out to just be a girl failure whose evil ambitions were really just seeking attention, which she now has despite giving us huge villain speech about how she wants to spread chaos, fear, evil and death and being disgusted at peace and happinessGomah was supposed to be even more threatening than Debura despite the way he acts yet we never see what makes him so threatening before the third eyeDegasu was acting like Zamasu yet he never had the guts to turn on Gomah physically and instead his big ambition was to hold a gun to baby dendes head and hope for the best, got out played by Panzy of all people.Goku makes a big deal about learning how to cope with his small stature by bringing in the power pole yet outside as soon as he gets super saiyan 4 he goes straight hands even as mini gokuVegeta, Bulma and Piccolo didn't really matter despite screen time devoted to them, Toriyama finally gave Vegeta a canon super saiyan 3 design and Bulma a new outfit for them to sell but that's about it, Piccolo got nothing he might as well had stayed behind like the other cast members. there are 3 realms in the demon realm yet we only got detail on the third one, realm 2 and realm 1 are water world and city with gomah's castle at the heart of it, these didn't need to be different realms, in fact, they felt more like biodomes considering their separated by ground Shin's presence didn't really amount to anything other than the name of his race and his true name before becoming a kai, Nahare.we learn how majins like Boo re created, I suppose thats something but I would of at least liked to have learned more about Panzy's mother or if she and Glorio are the same race since they're both blue
>>566714183>to just be a girl failure whose evil ambitions were really just seeking attention, which she now has despite giving us huge villain speech about how she wants to spread chaos, fear, evil and death and being disgusted at peace and happinessIf you think that's a bug and not a feature, you simply don't understand Toriyama.
>>566698163>>566698445Oishi drew and sold multiple yaoi doujinshi where Goku buttfucks Vegeta
>>566717629The way I always rationalized that is that the benchmark wasn't just super saiyan 2 in of itself, but super saiyan 2 in addition to the insane rage boost gohan had at the time, so it was a really big gap to climb in actuality
>>566718116Only Dabura. Even Good Buu (the fat one without the evil part) is probably about as strong as SS2 Vegeta.
>>566718116He'd have destroyed Dabura. But Buu was clearly above that level. Majin Vegeta was stronger than him, and yet he couldn't beat Buu.
>>566718116>Could Super saiyan 2 Kid Gohan beat DaburaDepend on how much stronger than Cell Dabura is.>Fat Buu?Not a single chance in hell.
>>566707219I was never a fan of him. Frieza was always more impressive and had the better design.
>>566717629>>566718116It's explicitly stated Majin Vegeta (exactly as strong as SS2 Goku) is stronger than Gohan was back in the day. Cell Games Gohan was surpassed the moment Goku flexed a little and made Yakon blow up
>>566722398No, because that literally never happened and the Grand Kaio has only been brought up to say there's something above Kaio but under Kaioshin. Don't use Toriyama's name for Toei's filler shit
>>566723101They don't say Goku trained with him specifically.>>566722687Toei has the Grand Kaio find an excuse to not train them cause he can't teach them anything and that arc had Toriyama's input.
>>566701417>Kid Goku (Stephanie Nadolny) is currently in jail for theftOOOFF..
>>566701417>James Marsters, who played Piccolo in the Dragon Ball Evolution movie, offered to voice a character in Dragon Ball Super completely for free in order to "redeem" himself. Marsters couldn't be paid as he was from the union and DBS was a non-union production, so in order to have a role in DBS, he had to use the pseudonym "David Gray" and take no salaryholy based
>>566724496She's out on bond or something now. Nadolny got into it with AnimeAjay and co. after they broke the news and started taking turns dunking on oher.
>>566725824James Marsters is the dude who played Spike in Buffy BTW
>>566714183>yet we never see what makes him so threatening before the third eyeIt was the life sucking machine and that the army now belonged to him so he could threaten civilians.
>>566727682And the fact that Dabura himself wasn't much a threat to the main cast despite Nahare's fear.Gomah, just like Dabura, was a big deal...to everyone not named Goku, Vegeta or Gohan.
>>566699172>That fight was nothing specialRagebait used to be special. Used to have sauce. Used to require effort.
>>566611040>>Toriyama-sensei drew all the enemy charactersWhy did he make Cooler so hot?
>>566699172People have just become desperate for any content
>>566732367Speaking normally would make this cope sound more convincing.
>[Deleted, restored from external archive]>[Deleted, restored from external archive]>[Deleted, restored from external archive]>so on and so forthSo uh, how many people are still around?
>>566744735you got it backwards, that's just one guy that got gotnow if he was the only one in here besides (You) and me then idk
>>566724496not even true btw>>566700452>>566701417isnt most of this well known and well chronicled?like yeah, we know that bulma's VA was replaced in kai...
>>566744735Only you, we're all AI generated
>>566744735were still here. unsure why that guy got hit
I'm surprised Toyotaro didn't make any jokes about Saiyan growth spurts during the high school arc, like having Goten and Trunks looking as their Buu saga selves among a bunch of grown teenagers and then walk in the next day with their SH designs. Sounds like something he would at least do on an omake.
XV3 should have cac fusionin the same vein, it should have cacs hiring and/or being able to be sent on missions when you're not using them
Xenoverse 3 needs to have Vegeta (Second Form)
>>566758245wasn't goku like 16 in the 22nd budokai, even? They should be tiny highschoolers. Then again they seemed pretty normal as of EoZ so who knows really
Saiyan growth spurts have got to be hell on the joints. Imagine growing like 4 feet in a day that shit would hurt like hell for weeks
I'm curious to see what kind of story XV3 has. Like would they expand the multiverse even a little bit or are we never leaving West City outside of fights.
>>566768006He was 16 in the 21st one>inb4 no he got the date wrong andNo, Goku first claimed to be one age, then learned to count and realized he was another one. Many years later Toriyama revealed this age Gohan guessed for him wasn't the correct one and he was 3yo already when his grandpa found him. Minus/Jaco is twelve years before DB chapter 1 so Goku debuts as a 15yo, is 16yo when he fights the Red Ribbon and 19yo when he kills Piccolo. He grew into his adult-self at some point between his 19 and his 22 years of life.As slow as half saiyans grow they are still faster than pure breeds.
>>566769643your assertion is most likely objectively correct given the minus retcons but I reject your reality and substitute my own if only to not think about the idea that 22nd goku was a full ass legal adult and has not aged a day because that's insanely goofy. I'm honestly not really sure why Toriyama decided to retcon the age like that i'm not sure what it accomplishes narratively. I guess it means Goku gets to remember his parents but I don't remember anything from when I was three
>>566769856>Goku gets to remember his parentsI still remember when this was revealed in the manga. >DUDE. GOKU REMEMBERS HIS PARENTS. NO WAY. Most forced tripe the franchise has ever done, minus (heh heh) Dragon Ball Minus. Not like Goku is going to do anything with that information ever.
> Toriyama retcons Bardock to be Jor-El>James Gunn retcons Jor-El to be BardockFunny how life works
>>566769856Well some people do remember stuff like that, I know a guy who somehow remembers specifically a time his parents changed his diaper, so a few flashes from when you were 3yo doesn't seem that crazy.And I'm pretty sure the idea was just world building since this was before they made Goku remember his parents in the Granolah arc, Jaco explains their growing rate is for deception purposes so it tells you saiyans have been doing this for so long and with some many children they have evolved so they look as harmless as possible, as long as possible, before growing big and conquering. An entire race's growth adapted to being sent as rocket babies to genocide entire planets without raising suspicion is kinda rad.And it somewhat explains why the U6 saiyans don't seem to grow like that, they don't have the rocket baby culture so they haven't adapted to mature like that.
>>566769643Toriyama just fucked the timeline up and forgot Goku was wrong initially
>>566771260Doesn't this kind of fall apart when you realize that the likely thing that's supposed to happen is them going ape mode and nuking the population of the planet? If it takes them 18 years to pull that off then maybe saiyans were shittier than I thought
>>566771415I've seen this cope a million times and it doesn't make sense. Goku claimed to be 14yo, and later learned he was supposed to be 12, if Toriyama had just checked the first chapters and copied Goku's first mention of his age then DB Minus would have made his real age 14, not 15.Toriyama made him a 15yo willingly.
Also isn't the rocket pod thing supposed to be restricted for the absolute runts? I don't think that was supposed to happen to every saiyan was it? The entire species evolving around the rocket baby when that's assumedly only a subset of society and even then one that's likely to die feels odd
Japan loves the trope of weakling turning into a muscular man overnight. Before the nonsense in Super Hero to excuse Trunks and Goten being kids forever until then, I always assumed that was Toriyama's intention with Goku post-Kami's training. Worth noting Kid Trunks was the same age as Trunks in Episode of Trunks at some point in Super.
>>566772087Mind you Raditz didn't know Goku hit his head, he thought Goku was still in the middle of his conquest when he arrived.
>>566770987You've never read an Elseworlds comic and it shows, casual.
>>566773970Raditz kind of implies that It's extremely odd that the inhabitants of earth are still alive, and assumes that he must have lost his saiyan pride. It should have have taken this long to clear out the planet
>>566774293>Damn it, Kakarot failed!!>Farmer with Shotgun was too strong
>>566774293That's 5 years after Goku grew up so it can pass as a short delay tho, I can see the saiyan standard being slowly leeching off a planet's resources as you mature and finish conquering it when you finally hit adulthood
>>566774492I mean, again, oozaru kind of gets in the way of this. There's zero reason to slowly accumulate power when you can go funky kong mode and destroy everyone in an afternoon. This would only make sense in planets without a full moon. Sure a 20pl oozaru isn't all that strong, but this is also something that happens automatically once they look at a full moon so it would happen regardless of the situation
>>566772954>Before the nonsense in Super HeroToriyama introduced that in DB Minus eight years before SuperheroAnd the only time present Trunks is seen that old is at the end of the Moro arc and as far we know he could have turned as tall as the OVA one next week and then a full adult the next one, remember there are many small time skips there>Moro is killed, Trunks looks like a turd>months until New Namek is restored>then some time until Seventhree is retrieved and stolen by Granolah>then some time between Granolah's wish/Goku and Vegeta's training and the battle with Gas>then Goku and Vegeta go back to Beerus planet and Trunks looks like an adult
The way it seems to be presented is that invasion babies are supposed to go something like this:>Send baby to weak shithole like earth, which has average PL of like 5>20 PL oozaru should still shitstomp, so baby waits for full moon>Goes oozaru>if they survive they become saiyan, if they die it was a 2pl shitter anyways who cares
>>566772610>only a subsetAccording to Toriyama all low class warriors have to be either engineers or rocket babies and he said the middle class was like 12 saiyans or so. The average saiyan is a low class loser sent to some planet as a kid and who only gained the right to be part of saiyan community after surviving that shit, they are 100% adapted to look innocent for long periods of time to help with the infiltration
>>566776303Do you have a quote on there only being like 12 mid class saiyans total, because if it's that low it'd call into question the effectiveness of saiyans in the freiza force if there's just that few of them worth their salt. I guess there's always oozaru spam
>>566775370>which has average PL of like 5A fat farmer with a shotgun has a pl of 5. A 20pl Ozaru would be easily killed by the military of our planet, let alone DB's Earth's military, growing stronger as years go is a necessity even if you remove people like Gohan, Roshi or Piccolo from the picture, Goku would have never conquered Earth as a toddler, Ozaru or not.
>>566776606Not a toddler sure but raditz implies it really shouldn't have taken that long at all. And again, it doesn't really matter if you think oozaru goku SHOULD be able to conquer earth because it's going to happen no matter what, because going oozaru is involuntary the second you look at the moon. It's why I keep calling the idea of looking cute as an infiltration tactic into question when looking at the moon is just going to happen. Goku wasn't even aware he was turning into an oozaru at all.
>>566776606Goku was fully capable of conquering the world after beating King Piccolo, maybe even during the 22nd Tenkaichi. the Red Ribbon army were explicitly stated to be stronger than the Earth Army and were thus able to do as they pleased totally unopposed, and Goku cleared them out in an afternoon when he felt so inclined. after them, the only person on earth strong enough to stop him was Tien. it took a literal ancient demon/alien for anyone to pose a threat to him.
>>566776556https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/episode-bardock-akira-toriyama-super-qa/>Although even saying that, almost all [Saiyans] were low-class warriors, and there were only about 10 mid-class warriors. And when you get to the elite warriors, there’s only King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta.When Gohan and Krillin arrived at Planet Namek they oneshotted two Freeza soldiers by raising their powerlevel to 1500 units and those we two of the soldiers Freeza took for his Attain Fucking Immortality Mission. According to the seventh Daizenshuu that was Raditz's powerlevel too, so imagine how good of an asset the saiyans were.No it wasn't 1200, in japanese when Nappa and Vegeta mention Raditz they use a wording that makes the saibaiman look comparable albeit weaker than Raditz that's why the Daizenshuu says the saibaiman was at 1200 and Raditz at 1500. Raditz would oneshot the average soldier Freeza took to the Namek mission.
>>566778284I mean I don't think there's anything inherently implying those frieza soldiers were the absolute cream of the crop of the frieza force. This wasn't supposed to be some kind of mega bloodbath hard fight anyways just slaughter the namekians and be home in time for dinner. If frieza wanted the absolute top dogs to be around he would've brought the ginyu force initially but didn't
In fact, we know Cui was around and he'd curbstomp raditz, and he wasn't even some kind of especially special soldier as far as I remember, he was just a guy
>>566776847>involuntaryYou can just not look you knowBardock literally tells his son to be careful with that before sending him to Earth probably to remain hidden as he grows stronger, Goku didn't know because no memories
>>566778858If we're going with Minus then Goku wasn't even an infiltration baby in that instance so that's not really applicable. That aside it's a pretty hard sell to imply the average rocket baby just sucessfully never looks at the moon even once for 19-20 straight years. it doesn't even need to be night for it, Goku got got during the 21st budokai and that was evening
This talk about Goku being strong enough to take over earth makes me wonder about a what ifIf he did take over and join the Frieza Force would U7 have any chance of not being obliterated by Majin Buu without Beerus waking up to do his job?
>>566778532They are clearly not elites but they must have been the best average soldiers around for obvious reasons. Freeza also knew about the rumours of namekians have "strange abilities" so even less reason to bring losers with him.It's just dumb to think those two soldiers specifically were specially weak, they must have been AT LEAST the average Joe and that still means Raditz oneshots the average Freeza soldier.
>>566779230There is essentially zero chance of anyone reaching super saiyan 3 levels of power unless frieza decides to inexplicably get off his ass and decide to do some morning stretches one day. Well, I guess there's Broly. Except going by Freiza he'd just pummel buu and end up getting absorbed
>>566777138>after beating King Piccolo>after Red RibbonI said as a toddler. Like the age he arrived at the planetThose two events are 16 and 13 years after that respectively
>>566779229Minus is literally the introduction to the term infiltration baby and shows Bardock sending Goku as one? And they can look at the moon when they are alone and stuff it's not like there's eternal surveillance everywhere in every planet, but they also won't transform every single time there's a full moon so they clearly can stay hidden and build up strength as they age, I don't see the problem here
>>566779617he was still in his 'child' form then. which was my point.
>>566779446So either the freak of nature stops being an idiot and work on his talent or the other freak of nature stops being an idiot and think during a battle instead of raging like a roided gorilla? U7 would be doomed 100%
>>566780102Anon it happens if they so much as glance at the thing and they don't remember what happens after the fact. Bardock didn't even tell Goku what would happen specifically just to look out for it, do you really think it wouldn't happen just out of curiosity. Saiyans have never been portrayed to be that disciplined
>>566780390Your point is that a saiyan's strength doesn't increase while having a child-like body? Your point is wrong and dumb bro
>>566780102Did Jaco's manga come before or after minus? because he mentions it there too to Tights honestly it kinda sucks that tights never got a focus episode, the most we know is that she ended up not getting together with that one dude and the old man from the jaco manga ended up dying and giving his house to Tights
>>566780625They are literally send with orders, they don't wake up thinking they are locals or anything like that why would you assume they are ignorant of key details of their own survival? Same about the discipline if they know they are supposed to chip down the population little by little until they are strong enough to wipe them out entirely they won't purposely put themselves in danger that muchAnd you are extrapolating Goku and Gohan's case to all saiyans when the actual manga pretty much says it's their case the special one, it says the reason they lost themselves is because the violent saiyan side in them surfaced, this shouldn't be the case for saiyans that are already like that, in fact we have seen other saiyans, even non-elites like Vegeta, keep their consciousness and full understanding of the situation after losing the Ozaru form. Even Super!Broly seems to be conscious of himself in Ozaru mode, we have no reason to expect all infiltration children to be like the "domesticated" Goku and Gohan were
>>566781598I mean the manga actually disagrees that they should've been slowly picking off humanity, Raditz just outright says that Goku should've used his oozaru transformation to cleanse earth in a matter of a few years.
>>566769643>>566772404Or more likely you're just retarded and Goku is still his official age.
>>566780875Jaco manga IS Minus. The serialization lasted until chapter 10+1 but when the collective volume came out it included a new extra chapter, "DRAGON BALL — The Departure of a Child of Destiny", Minus is an extra prologue of Jaco's manga included only at the end of the volume (and now in DBS Broly I guess)
Honestly trying to throw together both og manga lore, minus, and random interviews from toriyama to attempt to inform coherent lore about saiyans is giving me a headache, this shit is stupid why cant I be more autistic about a different franchise
>>566781929Yeah his official age as stated by Minus is 3yo when he left Planet Vegeta and 15 when he meet Bulma for first time.
>>566782623>If I pretend to be extra retarded, it'll cancel out me being retardedThat's just sad.>>566782494>is giving me a headacheThere's literally nothing complicated about it if you're not an autistic trying to 'outsmart' the franchise by being autistic and purposefully misinterpreting very simple stuff.
>>566781805>the manga disagrees with Goku not being able to destroy humanity right away by saying it would have taken him some years but less than 22Nigga if it takes 3yo Kakarot some years of growth until he can destroy humanity that just confirms what I said, toddler Goku would have never conquered Earth
>>566783163Just because you are a retard doesn't mean you can consider yourself a retard expert mate, DB Minus is official and canon and shows Goku is 3yo twelve years before the first chapter of the manga take it or leave, shitposter
>>566783214even if it took him till he was 10 or 12 the slowed aging thing wouldn't really do anything for him because even a human would still look like a kid at that point
>>566781805>>566783214I think it just depend on the skychild's level and methods, if they can just kill everyone on the spot, they do, if not they do like their biology allow and just duck the guys that are too strong with their toddler looks and then crush stuff as an Oozaru.Also Goku wasn't 3, he was fresh off the incubator he was since basically conception, it's not the same. Saiyans are a weird cross between normal babies and testube babies.
>>566783357>No u.>Except my fanfiction or not!I'll take not and just go with Goku's official age that hasn't changed at all, retarded autist who's getting mindbroken by a story for 10 year olds.>>566783545Raditz was acting like Goku had until adulthood to do his thing tho.
Oh great the L is here to shit all over a fine thread again
>>566783696was he? what he says largely suggests the opposite and implies he should've done it as a kid. If there was no full moon around sure it may have taken longer but given he did had oozaru this is just pathetic really
>>566783696>ExceptESLbro... pick a book. Learn to read. Learn to write. And some math too, you will be surprised by the result of 3+12.
all these majin niggers who are going to be gone from Xenoverse 3 should follow Vegeta's advice and DROP DEAD.
>>566783740/dbs/ is that way.>>566783861I mean, he's like 'Why is literally NO ONE dead?' which is a legit complaint even if Goku had until the day he arrived to kill everyone.Also he still gives Goku time to at least show a token effort of killing 100 humans.And it wouldn't make sense to expect a skychild to just spend 6 years doing jackshit if they're expected to have wiped out the planet by the time they're 12 and Raditz doesn't give any indication Kakarot should have been picked up early.
>>566783552>Goku wasn't 3Except for the part where he's explicitly stated to be 3>Saiyans are a weird cross between normal babies and testube babies.No man what the fuck are you saying nobody cares about your headcanon. Literally nobody
>>566784126Raditz didn't come to pick up goku as a part of a regularly scheduled pick up, he came to pick him up because they just remembered he existed after encountering a tough planet and needing help to deal with it
>>566783927>Please please please please let my desperate attempt to change the subject workOkay so your fanfic is wrong, your autism attempt at being smart failed and Goku is still the exact same age he always before you failed at basic logic and started screaming? Good.
>>566784207>Except for the part where he's explicitly stated to be 3Which doesn't happen, he's said to have spent 3 years in the incubator, nothing else.>I don't care about what is shown and saidYou seem way too upset to be someone who doesn't care.
Ok I can believe this is Luigi now. He is doing the exact same argument from half a year ago with the "Goku didn't age in the incubator" shit. It's time to stop posting player.
>>566784275Anon, did you miss the part where I said Raditz give 0 indication Goku should have been picked up earlier in life? There is NO confirmed time for a 'regularly scheduled pick up'.
>>566784207>Toriyama: Actually Goku was 3 when Gohan adopted him>some turbofaggot who still clings to a non-canon special he didn't even watch when it originally dropped: ACKCHYUALLY saiyan mothers push the baby right after conception and put them in an incubator and stay there three years and then are born in the equivalent way to childbirth so Goku was just 3 years around but wasn't 3 year old PLEASE TRUST METhe mental gymnastics of some retards are incredible. We even have confirmation of Goku having a normal birth from a normal mother with a normal bloated "tummy" and then being put in the incubator but the guy probably has another insane headcanon to justify that tooIf retards haven't accepted DB Minus even after it was adapted in the Broly movie there's no reason to bother with them, they will never learn
>>566784634>Okay, I can believe my own schizophrenia now, I lost to this same argument months ago and haven't recovered, it's time for me to stop samefaggingI wonder if one day you'll realize you're the only common factor to all the situations you cry about while shitting up the thread
>>566784456>he's not said to be 3yo only that he has been 3 years in a place he can only be after birthYeah that means he's at least 3yo. That's the bare minimum but he could be even older, never younger lmao>it's shown and said saiyans are a mix of normal and testube babiesTake your meds you are mixing your fanfiction with Toriyama works again
>>566784763>Toriyama: Goku was 12 there.>Autistic retard: NOOOOOOOOOOOO HE WAS 15 LIKE IN THIS PANEL OF HIM BEING WRONG THAT I MADE MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY!!!!!>Everyone: Bro, he's literally in an incubator>Autistic retard: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOBODY WILL EVER LEARN, I WILL KEEP MY DELUSION IN MY HEART!!!!Very funny meltdown but Goku's still the same age.
>>566784634>>566784763Bardock also says Kakarot has grown a lot so what the fuck is the logic here, that he's "legally" a newborn but still grew up for 3 years? That still means he's biologically 3yo in Minus
>>566785040>Yeah that means he's at least 3yo.No, it means the opposite, try again.>Take your meds, you're bringing up Toriyama's word against my headcanonYou mean that Toriyama work? That seem pretty clear cut.
>already claiming all his posts are "everyone" as usualYup, that's him. Stop replying, we were having fun having a nice discussion, don't let a retard ruin it.
>>566785196>He thinks babies don't grow in the wombs or in incubatorThe logic is basic human logic but that seem out of your depth given that you think you only grow after your birth.
>>566785405You know repeating yourself won't make anyone actually listen to you, it's the 4th time you beg and still nobody has any clue what you're on about.
>One side has manga panels directly stating Goku's age>The other side has catty whining complaining that someone is telling him he's wrong and ordering others to 'not play with that meanie, we were having le funnerino in my safespace'.I know which side I'm on here.>>566785606There's always some faggot who thinks he runs the thread, probably some remnant of that gay discord that kept bringing their drama here, he forgot he's not an admin here so nobody cares.
Why does this matter exactly?
>>566785405You're making it really blatant you were just samefagging, man.No wonder you got purged with your Torishima spam yesterday.
>>566785987Because some autist get really attached to their pet theory and get very aggressive about it, especially when the franchise proceed to not conform to it, which is why that guy has that 'Goku was 15' meltdown whenever there's a DB anniversary of that.It also happens if anyone post the ages from the TOP.
>>566786307>there's a DB anniversary of sort*My bad
>the /dbs/ raid "arguments" are all one personThat would be fucking hilarious if true. Would make way too much sense.
Since one side decidedly won that debate, time for another much less controversial discussion : Vegeta never beat Goku and counting Super Hero is pure cope.
>>566786635I mean, he always start screaming about Mario and Luigi, it's kind of a dead give away. I still have no clue where that came from.The amount of walls of text replying to each others suddenly tripling is pretty obvious too.
>>566786669Does anyone actually disagree with that?
>>566786669I mean he pretty soundly trounced goku and had him essentially dead to rights during saiyan saga. He got beat by the combined efforts of the Z fighters but in terms of just goku he very much so beat him. Counting Majin vegeta is pure cope though
>>566787097>had him essentially dead to rights during saiyan saga.So did Goku with him at the end when Vegeta had to escape, Vegeta fumbling his opportunity to kill Goku is on him.>He got beat by the combined efforts of the Z fighters Vegeta had his own team tho, he fumbled it and did 0 work with them and even actively did friendly fire but again, him fucking up his leadership is on him.It's like showing up at a football match and saying you didn't lose because you broke the legs of half your team so that 2-0 was actually your win.
>>566787097>>566787320Goku was a leader for his team while Vegeta killed half of his on a whim and he was defeated for it.
>>566786978Somewhat is on twitter
if it's time for this wage slave to sleep again so I'll leave with thiswhat outfits do you want for future saga 4?Maximum is 8 because I assume we'll have at least 1 final festival of universes to close it off for good since there's data for a sixth festival of universes in the game and we're up to 5 so far.Bulma daimacustom Fu clothes
>>566787320>>566787870I mean he still beat Goku in the actual fight that they both participated in. It's like saying Nappa didn't actually beat piccolo because Piccolo's side won the battle in the end
>>566786669I think he pretty clearly beat Goku in Saiyan saga during their 1v1.He only lost once Yajirobe, Krillin, and Gohan got involved.Wouldn't count Majin Vegeta though and Super Hero was more of a gag.
>>566788546>>566788682>I mean he still beat Goku in the actual fight that they both participated in.>I think he pretty clearly beat Goku in Saiyan saga during their 1v1.He ran away when he lost the beam struggle, that's an instant loss IMO.
>>566788863He didn't run away though? He got flung into the sky by said beam struggle and decided to pull oozaru, but got confused looking around for the moon and assuming goku destroyed it came down to use the power ball. It's not really running away if you're being actively pushed away.
>>566788863>He ran away when he lost the beam strugglewut
>>566780831The point is that he's not clearing the entire planet in one day as a literal infant, he's clearing his landing zone of dangerous wildlife and then living as a wild man for years, growing strong against animals and hunters, until he's big enough to waltz into town and go apeshit.Great ape lasts one night and was good enough to kill grandpa gohan
>>566789069>>566789098He literally flew away searching for a moon after getting off the beam, that's very much running away.
>>566789784looking for the moon while mildly confused isn't really the same as actively bolting from the battle? He wasn't running from Goku he was looking for something that's an entirely different thing. The second he realized the moon wasn't there he instantly came straight back so he clearly wasn't running from Goku
>>566789917>looking for the moon while mildly confused isn't really the same as actively bolting from the battle?Running away to go get a gun a block away is still running away.>He wasn't running from GokuHe was tho, the entire reason he was searching for a moon is that he was freaked out by losing the beam struggle and thought he couldn't win without it.
>>566790937He was not running from goku because he explicitly had the powerball in his back pocket as a backup plan. Again, the second he realizes the moon is not there he returns to the fight to continue beating Goku's ass. Especially since he just assumed the moon to be right in the sky next to him anyways, he was just genuinely confused that is not running away
>>566791079>continueCan't continue something you couldn't start, thus losing the beam struggle and having to run away.>because he explicitly had the powerball in his back pocket as a backup planBackup plan to running away to find a moon.Like pretending Vegeta wasn't shitting his pants after losing the beam struggle is crazy given the faces he was making.
>>566791381No one is contesting that he lost the beam struggle, he very much did that's the point of him pulling oozaru. But oozaru isn't something he should need to "get" like your glock analogy, it should've just been as simple as looking up but the moon was inexplicably not there, hence his confusion
Not gonna lie, just the fact you gotta try and divide the fight into parts show Vegeta lost. When you win you don't have to go 'Okay, I won that part'.
>>566791563Vegeta didn't just look around in confusion, he literally bolted trying to find it.>ShouldBut it wasn't so that's hardly relevant.
>>566791648Vegeta being flung into the sky by the kamehameha and him turning into a great ape aren't even seperate chapters. In fact Vegeta searching for the moon and then coming back to use the power ball is all of two pages that's hardly a different fight
>>566791881So? It all ends with Vegeta being spared by Goku. That's a loss.
>>566792059Anon, The entire reason Goku did that is because he admits he lost to vegeta and wants to beat him next time. Vegeta's team lost to Goku's team, but Vegeta lost to Goku.
>>566792331Goku lost to Vegeta rather, lol. I think I should stop arguing it's getting late, good night dbg.
>>566792331>The entire reason Goku did that is because he admits he lost to vegeta and wants to beat him next timeBy that same logic, Vegeta also admit he lost several times. He just didn't win like he wanted.
>>566789784I think you may be retarded.
>>566792723I know you are retarded.
I'm just genuinely confused at the implication that disengaging for a little bit to go do something automatically means you lose the fight? That's just fairly normal shounen choreography. Running away should imply attempting to fully disengage out of the fight in its entirety which vegeta was not doing. This is like implying that bit where Goku was underwater for a bit attempting to trick frieza is him losing the fight. Shit im pretty sure that entire gambit was longer than vegeta looking for the moon.
>>566793248Vegeta didn't take a step back, he flew away so far the land wasn't even visible anymore.
>>566793248>You're in a fight>You get rocked>You ran away halfway across the city>Bro I was just disengaging, it's just like Bruce LeeYou can't be serious.>This is like implying that bit where Goku was underwater for a bit attempting to trick frieza is him losing the fight.Goku was preparing an ambush while keeping Freeza 'in sight', Vegeta just fucked off so far and so blatantly, Goku and co could regroup and strategize with Vegeta not knowing shit about it.
>>566794148Anon I cannot stress enough that vegeta looking for the moon was TWO PAGES this was not protrayed as something that took a significant amount of time at all. In fact Goku's explicitly still looking at him, if he was considered to be disengaging and running away Goku would not be looking at him in the sky tense and sure the fight is still on
>>566793248The guy is an ESL and doesn't understand what "running away" actually means.If he's not arguing in bad faith he is simply a low IQ individual not worth taking seriously.
>>566794420>He didn't run away for longStill running away.No, Goku is sure Vegeta will come BACK, you can't come back if you haven't left.
>>566795109>Get punched>Start sprinting in the other direction>'DAMN YOU MEXICO! I'M NOT RUNNING AWAY!'Vegetafags are mentally ill.
>LeBron James didn't win, only his team won!This is impressively dumb.
>>566795494if lebron james did a 1v1 with *insert other basketball player here I dont know sports* and gets his kneecaps broken despite his team considering to win the rest of the game i'd consider him to have lost that 1v1 still
>>566562637Note is pure!
>>566795645>i'd consider him to have lost that 1v1 stillWhich would be retarded because breaking knees isn't allowed in Basketball so your comparison make no sense and everyone would unanimously agree the dude lost the 1v1 to LeBron.
Goku considers himself to have lost that fight, Vegeta doesn't consider it a win. Therefore they need to undergo a tiebreaker of sloppy tail pullingand whoever tops is declared the winner
>>566795583>>566795658>>566795730>It didn't last long>He ran away so long / so far, the sun was settingDude was running for his life lmao.
>>566795803anon that was just a euphamism for him losing badly.
>>566795645Except here LeBron won the 1v1 so hard, the other dude ran to the restroom to shoot up steroid, came back and then proceeded to get outplayed the entire game and end up on the ground crying and crawling.
>>566795915...But he returned to finish the fight?Like I don't even understand what your logic is at this point.How do you run away from a fight while also coming back to finish out the fight? Both can't be true
>>566795956you have euphamism
>>566795956...That's the opposite of a euphemism, it's an hyperbole, anon.>>566795837>Vegeta doesn't consider it a win.Vegeta outright consider it a loss.
>>566796031I mean, given Kaioken I think lebron was the guy shooting up first it's only fair by this point
>>566796140NTA but that is not a hyperbole. Hyperbole is an exaggeration of something.It was just an analogy, whether it's a bad analogy or good analogy is up for others to decide.
>>566796056>...But he returned to finish the fight?That's called a getback / round 2, still mean you ran from round 1.>to finish out the fight? The fight is over the second you ran, you started a new fight.If you leave the boss arena in a game, you're considered to have lost.
>>566796247Nah that was clearly an allegoryAnalogy's are analog, while is a digital mode of communication
>>566796231A technique that make your play better =/= steroids. Not Goku's fault Vegeta has skill issues.>>566796247Having your knees exploding is an hyperbole for losing a 1 v 1 hard in basketball here, anon. It's an hyperbole within the analogy.
really if we want to really do this steroids analogy it should be that he thought he had it on him, decides to go look around for it, finds out that the syringe got shatered, and decided to pull out the creatine instead
>>566796285You've clearly never played Monster Hunter
>>566796504That'd still be a disqualification regardless
>>566796605if lebron was using a technique to multiply his power then vegeta using a technique to multiply his power is legal, the creatine stays
>>566796589You're not fighting in Monster Hunter, you're hunting, it's completely different. A Hunt can be composed of multiple fights.Also I did play and there's multiple missions where you're just stuck in an arena you can't leave.
>>566796605this isn't a league match. they are playing basketball in an empty wasteland far away enough that they don't have to worry about destroying the city with a Chaos Dunk
>>566796713Except Vegeta didn't use a technique, he just shove an attack ball syringe between his toes.
>>566796720If you're fighting a Rathalos and the Rathalos leaves for another area you haven't defeated that Rathalos.Nothing less that total victory will satisfy these proud saiyans
>>566796728They both showed up with their teams. LeBron's opponent just ended up playing alone because his roid rage made him punch half his team so they quit.
>>566796860he clearly used his ki as a technique to multiply his power, that's legal and the ref shouldn't be able to call it. There were no outside interference that was all vegeta, it even nerfed his power level a bit just to make sure.
what determines whether a character has lost or won a fight is if they achieved their goal when entering the fight. Vegeta's goal was to kill Goku and later also to destroy the Earth. Goku's goal was to stop Vegeta. who accomplished their goal?
>>566796873>for another area you haven't defeated that Rathalos.Yes, you did, you just haven't succeeded in your hunt yet because the hunt's goal is getting the material.>>566796965>he clearly used his ki as a technique to multiply his power,Where does it say the attack ball is a technique? It seemed to be some bullshit developed to trigger the Oozaru rather than a technique you can perform.To the point even the dub said it was an invention.
>>566797097I mean roshi invented the kamehameha and that's very much so a technique, vegeta is very clearly using his own power to create it so i'm not sure what else you could possibly classify this if not a technique. It's not like he's using some sort of device to make this power ball
>>566796285>>566796720>Weird ass headcanon rules of engagementI see, mental illness it is then. I'll stop responding now.
>>566797259>Basic logic? I can't beat that, I'll admit defeat nowGood job, buddy. Just like Vegeta.
>>566796589I played a bit of Monster Hunter World once, since The Handler was cute. Game wasn't really for me, though.
This discussion reminded me of this tweet I just saw
>>566800904Huh? But Vegeta pulling out oozaru was the practical thing to do after seeing goku overpower him? That wasn't a pride thing that was just a fairly normal response anyone would do.
>>566800904>going on twittercuck
>>566801241That's where all the fanart you post come from, lying faggot
>>566801316Nope, I get mine from the boorus without getting my hands or PC dirty.
>>566801610Where do you think the boorus get it from?
>>566801993Doesn't matter. What matters is going to those places myself is unnecessary.
>>566802189>Doesn't matter.Cope, you know the truth.
>>566796441>>566796231>>566796031>>566795645>>566795803LeBitch just got swept 4-0 by the Oklahomo city Blunder btw
I'm going to complain about something stupid, but why do the people asking for GT Goten in SZ use Trunks as an arguments, going "If they added GT Trunks of course they have to add GT Goten!"? Do they forget that Trunks was one of the main characters? GT didn't kept them as a pair like Z and Super.
>>566808145Most people having those arguments never watched GT
>>566808248most people clamoring for GT content didn't actually watch GT
>>566808327That's what I said
>>566801993pixiv
>>566800904I hate how modern anime fans are obsessed with the idea that the MC is never ever allowed to just beat the rival.
new drops
>>566812295The thumbnail looks like Pepsiman
>>566812295I kinda like that Freeza actually
Either take the Saiyan Saga fight as one long fight and Goku won or you try to divide it into smaller fights and Goku won 3 (Goku vs Vegeta and his team, Goku vs Vegeta in the desert, Goku and his team vs Vegeta) to Vegeta's 1 (Goku vs Oozaru Vegeta alone).
>Either follow my headcanon, or follow my headcanon
>>566816120Guess you could follow the canon where Vegeta directly say he lost too and all official info and announcement clearly saying Vegeta never won a single time until Super Hero.
>>566816120That argument doesn't work when the official version is LITERALLY that Vegeta lost and it was reinforced by tweets from the official accounts a few days ago.
Even Vegeta takes his Ls with more grace than his fans.
To the anon who was doubting femoids simp for Goku.
>>566795774imagine if we can recreate note in xenoverse 3, the hairstyle is in, the super saiyan spike ups are in, super saiyan 4 is in, but cape, thigh highs and sleeveless jackets long enough to go past the waist are in, we already know Tails are in, in fact thanks to Shallot we know that the tail matches the color of the transformation so maybe that's in too, shame that his black tail never became a plot point his brother's tail is the natural brown
>>566817858>he liked her postHmm
>>566818937Not liking a post proving you were right is just rude.
>>566818967Can't argue with that logic
I wonder how crazy Breakers would have gotten if it had started going into the same weird 'Standards' spirals Dead By Daylight did.I saw someone play DBD recentlyand what do you mean there's a 'community rule' that the killer can't just play in the most effective way and kill your ass the moment you're vulnerable?
>>566819146they had to do it that way because killer sweats would actively ruin the game for everyone because the killer was so fucking unbalanced at the beginning, kinda like how cracked Cell used to be when breakers was new to the point players would actively gather the dragonballs drop them in from of them and stand in the Cell arena area for a survivor to challenge them to straight hands just to squeeze some actual fun out of the gamespeaking of breakers, give the size of the maps, do you think the map of places in xenoverse 3 will be that size to fight in or the size of the main hub? I'm gonna be annoyed as fuck if we're just running around one city like Pokemon ZA The World Ends With You series I want barron wastelands to throw final flashes and kamehamehas in
>>566819492I think the battle maps will be around the same size and the main hub will probably be smaller given the graphical upgrade.
>>566819673I really do wonder how they plan on incorporating dragon ball characters into this setting, I don't think the audience would be satisfied with just data versions of the cast they know and love but at the same time I don't know how they bring in all these characters without the simple excuse of time manipulation
>>566820968Angel-Ring Bulma will probably be the plot device to get around all that.That or a miracle happened and the game doesn't bother with a roster and is instead a pseudo-Kakarot XV2 mix.
>MFW they swing the pendulum in the other direction and the playable cast is too good this time in XV3
>>566825968That will mean nothing to me because I'll only ever play my CaC and never touch the online a single time.
>Finally check out the CAC transpheres for transformations >Super saiyan 3 and Beast just slap Goku Wig and Gohan wig on the characters instead of colorifying their unique super saiyan hairstyles like they do for SS,SSB, Rose and LSSI'm suspect, i think they are planning on giving those forms to CACs and I think both SS4s are gonna be in, wouldn't it be funny if they dug breakers out of it's grave to post modern shove daima 4 goku transphere in there?
>>566826837Breakers is technically still ongoing.
>>566826916and yet it wasn't even at the battle hour and hasn't had any acknowledgement since Z broly dropped over a year ago.
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>>566827930Based
Gonna be hilarious to see DB skyrocket up high with XV3+DBS Remake+Moro in late 2027/2028I wonder if it'll beat even Gundam then.
>>566828196>I wonder if it'll beat even Gundam then.DB beat Gundam pretty often when it's active but we haven't really gotten to compare them while they're both having a big thing at the same time.
>>566828196>I wonder if it'll beat even Gundam then.Your own picture show DB blowing Gundam out of the water in 2025 just off of Daima alone. With TWO shows back to back, it'll probably do even better.It'll be hard to beat Gundam's predict full year results tho. It's unlikely to reach it tho.
>>566827930Sex with Majin 21, Purple 21, Vomi, Caulifla, Kale, Mamba, 18, Videl, Erasa, Launch, Yurin, Bulla, Pan, Arinsu, Mai, Chi Chi, Majin Bra, Chi Chi black, Demon Bulma, any female majin and oceanus shenron
>>566833343Based
>350 gems for black scribbles on frieza>Call it "Injured"Lmao
>>566842294The crazy thing is I've seen genuine comments about how hyped they are to buy the skin. Dragon Ball fans are so stockholm syndrome it's insane
>>566842294why the slightly dirty versions of characters cost so much is beyond me
I know I'm late and Luigi already destroyed the conversation but something neat about Ozaru I don't think I've seen people mention is that Toriyama never gave them red eyes, I think the only time he colored an Ozaru it was pic relatedFeels more like the eyes are just blank berserker eyes like Broly or Kale's
Need Kamin...
>>566859094Not just Broly and Kale Trunks too, El Manga Legendario says going grade 3 made Trunks ten times stronger which is conveniently the Ozaru boost. And Toriyama didn't even made green Broly a thing not even in DBZ he just designed it blonde so it could as well be meant to be the same thing and Broly is just so powerful a speed debuff isn't enough to make him slower than the good guys or something
>Piccolo with 30k damage just ran at towers with the hammers all game, 10 deaths>We loseWhat the fuck is the counterplay to this? The Gekishin Squadra devs didn't remove this trash from the game, so please tell me.
>you are special because reaching SS4 means you can actually go SS4 by yourself!This is so fucking weird, either Vegeta is retarded and think it's normal to not be able to access your own transformation or SS4 is in-universe supposed to be a thing that can only happen under the same conditions as going Ozaru and Goku of all people can warp digievolve into SS4 skipping the Ozaru and Golden Ozaru phases. And I don't know which one is dumber.
>>566865158>The Gekishin Squadra devs didn't remove this trash from the gameAnd now you can remove this trash from your computer.
>>566865353one has a tailone does not have a tailgoku had to get his tail pulled out before he can go ss4shrimple as
>>566865521The tail puller... so that's his endgame! He wants to make all the monkeys able to go Super Saiyan 4!
>>566865353I like that Vegeta didn't conveniently keep his tail just because of Bulma's machine just for the sake of permanently giving him SS4. If he wants it he MUST get his tail pulled too.
>>566865158Hammers is so nerfed it's not even worth using major metallic andPiccolo is extremely squishy so once you guys found out he was rushing towers you needed to focus on him.Actually, since Piccolo wasnt at Bosses you guys could've ignored him and just triple bossed
>people posting COLORED manga without getting called out for itDisgusting
>>566867061we on some next level manga puritan shit now jeez
>>566867209What's so puritan about it? Just don't post the shitty vandalized version, surely you have a link to the actual pages
>>566867896What do you mean by vandalized?It's literally an official licensed product.
>>566868121Officially vandalized yes. I don't think it's some kind of hot or puritan take that Toriyama's art doesn't deserve to be shat over by some intern's mediocre color works. Black and white is a choice and a medium of artistic expression, not a lack of budget that needs to be corrected by another dude coloring all over the place.
>>566867061>>566867896>>566868274This isn't /a/, little bro. Go be a performative loser somewhere else.
>I don't think it's some kind of puritan take that [literal puritan take about manga always needing to be black and white]Sometimes I think this place just posts ragebait to get posts so it doesn't slip off page 10.
>>566868654>performativeIt literally looks like shit. There's nothing to perform for, we're anonymous. Just stop posting trash if you don't want to be called out for posting trash.
>>566868689>puritan take about manga always needing to be black and whiteHow about respecting the original work that was always praised for its art instead of posting a low quality colorization work that basically conceals the art? Some manga are colored, by the author, and it doesn't look like shit.
I heard they are adding Super Saiyan Blue Ozaru to the game
>>566865353SS4 should have broken the wish and turned Goku into an adult without access to the form after the Baby arc>a single 17 was sai to be half of the strength of Super 17 so it's less ridiculous if Goku has to fight him as SS3>the shadow dragons drop and Goku still as an adult fights them with SS, SS2 and SS3>instead having UFPS4 shit Bulma's blutz generator is what gives Goku the capacity to go SS4 again>SS4 Vegeta, fusion and all that shit, situation is more dire without the generator because none of the saiyans can go SS4 on their own>Genkidama finale againThere I fixed part of GT atrocious scaling
XV3 news, when?
a-alive game...
>>566864107In the manga Vegeta mentions Kale getting slower too so I can see grade 2 and grade 3 being the same as the "legendary" boost Broly and Kale get.
>>566868991>>566867061Nah you are being a little bitch. The DB/Z anime is radically inferior to the DB manga in 95% of cases and that doesn't mean we are gonna start complaining when someone posts an anime scene instead the manga one. The bw manga being better than every other alternative doesn't mean we should bitch about them for no reason
>>566871171The difference being that at least the DBZ anime is a different medium altogether with some reason to justify its existence (even if it's a worst experience than even the colored manga). The colored manga is a straight downgrade, it's literally just the manga page but now it looks like shit. We're not on Xitter, surely we can expect people who care enough about Dragon Ball to discuss it on stupid anonymous boards to actually post the proper pages.
>>566870660>shartngaOUT
>>566871395See >>566871171>Nah you are being a little bitchCase in point
>>566872440I made my point clear and it stands. If you care about Toriyama's Dragon Ball to any significant extent you wouldn't want to use the version that conceals the Toriyama goodness.
