We are so fucking cemented EditionPrevious Thread>>565804505>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck Trackers & Statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24245219/deathwing-strikes-back-in-cataclysm-heathstone-s-next-expansion - new expansionhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>Helpful Linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit
Why didn't you cement us?
my harold egglock variant is 91% win rate in low legend. i'm 49-4 with it. no i wont link deck code and no i wont say the difference between the embarassing netdeck one floating around and yes it has wallow the wretched of course because "the community" deemed it a dead card when it is far from.
>>566673407This are looking pretty grim but lets be positive fellow Hearthstone players!!!Meta can be horrible, devs can be shit at balance and we can be done for until violet hold... BUT Blizzcon is coming, the moment when Monk will be announced and all the bad things will be forgotten!!!Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!
i hate priest players so much
>still no apology from the teamuh..
monk will save us (at blizzcon)evoker will cement us
When will they add a shadow priest deck to standard?
>>566677387priest isn't allowed to do anything besides infinite value controlslop sorry brooverheal? shadow? buffs? self-silence? nah that's all lame bwo
>>566680541Here's a guide on beating rogue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE
More cunts in battlegrounds getting multiple copies of this fucker before greater trinket.
blogpost status?
OH SHIT *grabs mouse quickly* HE ALMOST LEFT WITHOUT ME DOING MY SWEET WELL PLAYED GOOD BYE EMOTE!!!! WHAT A BITCH!
>>566681117And now I'm that cunt. Didn't even roll for it the cards were just thrown at me.
why is token druid becoming popular again?
>>566686339got a new card or two that helps it beat the curve
>>566686616which ones?
>>566686339Minor edit made it just good enough to potentially unseat DH as the most meta deck.>>566686729https://www.hsguru.com/deck/39765739
>>566686616>>566686929so uh literally none of the new druid class set cards are in that deckjust random meta fluctuation?
>>566687443nta but yeah, all the changes people are making to deal with Rogue and DH get dicked by Token Druid (and to a lesser extent Shaman but that's a highroll deck).
>>566687443I wouldn't say random. The deck has been picking up steam for a while now as the kinks have been getting worked out. It just hit critical mass.
Since we're talking about token druid, don't forget that you can use panther mask on the opponent's creatures.I've managed to score a win or two by panther masking away the taunt that was blocking lethal.
okay i've played like six paladins in my last eight gameswhat kills paladins
>>566689297DK
>>566689297rogue
>>566689297why bother switchingthe moment you switch you'll never see another pally ever again
>>566677620>overheal?relies on the existence of an healthy board-based metaWe never had that in the history of HS.>buffs?Same as above. >self-silence?That one is actually lame.Giving a class the ability to turn a penalties into boons is a recipe for disaster.Just look at the warlock's questline fiasco.>shadow?That one is... serviceable.
lmao does ACK play this shit game? why he post in our thread bros...
Battecry
new mechanic just dropped
>>566702231god excavate was so fucking funwe devolved so much
>>566673407>Harold Rogue is popular as fuckIs it just algorithm at work that I never got mirror matches?
https://hsreplay.net/replay/ahAmt3iuoYyjeYLm7YFrt3Boardstone as Zeddy intended
>>566704606algoDH hand vs algoDruid hand
apology blog post in literal hours
I still haven't seen a single person play dragon soul yet
i'm kind of impressed at how much class packages cemented us
>>566708938I don't want apologies I want buffs
I love using shadowflame as lethal on niggers and then roping them by not selecting a minion.And then they explode just as the rope burns out.Beautiful.
>>566723454>modern warrior is so cringe that their 2 mana game changer card is now just being used as raw 2 damageDragon warrior has been a genuine blight for way too long
>>566723883Dragon Warrior would be a fine deck with a strong mid game that peters out if it wasn't for dark gift bullshit.
>try new deck>not forced 50% btwwhat's the point of even playing this game?
>>5667245362% positive so you need 100 games more to climb.... That what Algo wants.... PLAY LONGER
>page 9things will improve with Violet Hold right?
>>566730152depends on how hot vanessa vancleef is
>>566730340>VanessaThere is no Vannesa in here.... Vanessa in DEADMINESLast boss is Pic Rel (in legion version)Wife of Millhouse Manastorm
>>566730152yes but probably not in the way you want
>>566731507Will they make her hot? Cuz that doesnt look hot to me. Gnomesferatu is way better.
>”HUGE patch NERFS mage and paladin! BUFFS hunter! WHAT THE HELL”>watch video>they just fixed some game breaking bugs that happened to benefit mage and paladin, and harm hunterI am so tired of beached whale zeddy
i still haven't gotten out of bronze
>>566732628compaeing any gnome to the gnome throat goat is a bit unfair
>>56673508710+ mana companions fixed?
>>566735702Apparently yeah
>finally out of bronze>4 star bonus>still facing a million hunters with the scarab legend cardbackwhy can't i face anyone that is as shitty as i am. i dont understand how mmr works i've never been anywhere near legend and that's all i ever face.
>>566736945Why. What did I do to deserve this over and over again.
>>566737864Welcome to hearthstone kiddo
>>566738140but why can't i face anyone that is also a kiddo. why is it nothing but legend players. why.
>hotfix>my game still lags when i click on any UI elementslol game runs like shit
>>566738702legend doesn't mean anything, ranking is purely MMR based the ranks are literally a cosmetic
>>566738892but i should have a terrible mmr. i'm something like 4 and 50 for this week alone. i barely got out of bronze today and i've been trying since this entire month.
>>566738774Unironically runs better on mobile because it doesn't have so much bloat
>be hsg>be bad at the game>"wah everything is broken">"wah the united states government in collaboration with mossad and the kgb are plotting to keep my card-sllinging, rough diamond, genius down by injecting malicious code on my local file installation and rugpulling my draws in real time"hsg have you ever considered that you might, just might, not have been as bright as you think you were at school? hsg, no one is keeping you out of legend/in low legend. you just belong thereonce you accept this reality, your life will become much better. its not the boomers, its not the economy, its not women, its your excuses holding you back in everything you do in life
>>566738892Sure the Legend Cardback doesn't actually mean they're good but a Legend (or a diamond, but nobody is proud of reaching diamond) is probably better player than some new cutie
>>566739528i am 100% convinced that forced rig mechanics are a thing because whenever i put money in the game i would hit legend within a week or two no matter what i played
>>566739528Cora, get the fuck out.
>>566739528i know i'm bad. i'm genuinely terrible. i don't know why i'm not facing people that are also at least half as bad.
>>566737864>what did i do to deserve thisapparently nothing to pressure the hunter the 9 previous turns so that they would never play their 5 mana do nothing cards and eventually win out the late gamecompanion hunter is a tier 5 deck, standing at 40% winrate in high legendits ok though, youre new and currently learning, dont worry too much about it, focus on improving and dont care about rank until you hit top 1k legend and actually know a thing or two about what youre doing
>>566739657not really though, each "mmr tier" has the full ranks worth of players due to rank floors with legend only being someone performing slightly better or having slightly more luck. it's basically a guarantee you'll hit legend if you play enough in a given month regardless of skill level. and there are a lot more bad players than good players
>>566740293my post wasnt aimed at you. but to answer your question, you actually do face people as bad as you. legend cardback is irrelevant, their winrate is as ateocious as yours. toughen up and get better, you got it king
>>566740293Oh and play a better deck.Warlock is ass cheeks.https://www.hsguru.com/meta?format=2
>>566739528I'm in the top 500.The engagement algorithm exists.It's all about learning to work with the algo.
>>566740586>>566740790>>566740790This has been every companion hunter game.
>>566741010that would make no sense considering youve got the "gaby"s and "pockettrain"s of the world who time and time again, season after season place in super high legend and make knockout stages in tournaments, sometimes even starting from abyssmally low seeding (something like round of 64) all the way to the finals.are you proposing the existence of CoraVerified™ accounts given out to pro players just to keep the facade going?unrelated but when is the statsjew gonna release the new report, its been so long
>jar OTK DH(literally 20%wr deck)>wins against leyline nigga just playing fel spellsHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA NICE forced archetype bros.... A FUCKING SLOWEST DH deck ever made dabs on new Cora creation
>>566741984pros are all paypigs so they have the favoured rigadd to that the fact that they play 50 matches a day and that's how they always get there
>lost against another random charge dark gift again>back to silver 10im too dumb for demon hunter maybe whats the drooling retard deck to play
>>566743980Shaman and warrior
>>566741984As you get into high ranks finding someone of a similar rank becomes more restrictive (trying to find someone within 100 of you instead of 1000 for example) and this adds matchmaking time. The algorithmic layer that's trying to force a winning or losing matchup often gets sidelined in order to find someone within an acceptable time frame.I should clarify that I don't think there's a mid-match algorithm, so there's no real way to rig a tournament outside of seeding, and tournament seeding is all about separating the top performers so they meet in the finals.
>>566743980dragon warrior is literally "play green/orange glow card win"
>Play mage>hunter makes up 50% of match history>Play priest>demon hunter makes up 50% of match historyFunny how that works
>>566744594>>566744890ill switch to warrior thanks
>>566743016im on a brand new account (100% f2p) and in the top 100 currently. is the rig in the room with us?
>>566739528buff Envoy already
>>566739528I am consistently top 200, there are engagement mechanisms. It's why burgle rogue and other discover mechanics get pushed so hard. An engaging match is one with a lot of back and forth and the game isn't good at determining how to impact board states without random generation mechanics so they pump it into every set while making it stronger and stronger. It becomes really obvious when you play certain decks or play against certain decks for a while.
>>566746456how?
>>5667547494 mana with adjusted stats5 mana with increased stats
>>5667547494 mana 4/4
>>566754749he could honestly be a 5/5
>Dragon lobby>Everyone forces Ring Bearer because of Egg of the Endtimes
>>566758465because all other dragon comps are deader than dead Most shitty tribe ever....
>>566758629Dragon beats everything except Fodder builds and comes online way earlier.
>>566758774all other dragon comp means there is Kalesgos Taresgosa Chromadrakes... all useless
>>566673407>cementedWhen will the cemented decade ends?How long will be the maintenance mode?
>Tess in mech lobbyJackpot lmao....
>>566742436log in after 4 hours for next game>dk>ice block>60hp>jar and activator literally on bottomALGO NOT REALHoly shit Cora....
>>566753571burgle and discover are just fun mechanics that reward skill expression because of the decision making involved. theyre also super popular. i doubt they need a push of any sort by the devs. people would play those even when they didnt win at all>It becomes really obvious when you play certain decks or play against certain decks for a whilewhat statistical sample are we talking about? do you play thousands of games every day? your 10 matches per day are irrelevant from a mathematical standpoint, even if they were all against your biggest counter deck. its just way too small of a sample to matteralso if they had the ability to mess around with the queue like that, why wouldnt they give the new archetypes they just released a bit of help and instead have them fail on release and expose them as bad developers? why wouldnt they reward their loyal "paypigs" with shiny new toys that win a lot?
>make a shitty warlock deck for a quest>get matched with warlocks onlyclass so shit it can only play against itself lol
>>566764697I remember when mirroring against DK sucked cuz you couldn't get corpses
OMFG can I please just get Brawl back? You can't let these Paladin boards be a thing and get rid of brawl man sheeet.
Game is just randomly crashing now and you can't reconnect, just another wonderful hotpatch from the garbage company blizzard, looking forward to the end of service announcement later this year
>>566766745Why do you faggots preorder and buy pets then?
/wowcg/ poster here, thought id try hearthstone for the first time today>install game>takes forever to launch>finally launches>i have to sit through a bunch of fucking flashy screens telling me about the newest expansion and how I should buy it>more pop ups with flashy animations letting me know of a gamba thing that i can buy tokens for to roll for some animated profile of a hero>forced to sit through a retarded tutorial that has reddít tier dialogue>get through tutorial>google about the game a bit>dont wanna pay to buy an expansion or decks/cards>get told i should try battlegrounds>im greeted by aa nigger barman>have to sit through another tutorial thats treating me like im a retard>the nigger barman wont stop talking to me with WACKY reddít comments>manage to get through tutorial>try a real match>in queu for about 2 mins>disconnected cause opponent couldnt connect>queu again>2 more minutes pass>at hero selection screen>get disconnnected attempt to reconnect for 2 mins>alt f4>uninstallhow do you people play this game? holy fuck.
>>566768152>Why do youWhy are you talking to yourself?
>>566770473unironically game gets worse and worse after each patch Lead coders alrealdy left or fired sadly...
Retard token decks are so fucking lame to play
>>566771816And it's amazing how many garbage players get to decent ranks solely off the back of these broken two digit IQ decks
>play spell dh all morning>lose to every single dragon warrior>switch to dragon warrior>first game is losing to spell dhim going to kill myself. i'm one turn away from winning and everyone gets the perfect answer. i can't take this anymore.
>>566778543>next game against a imbue rogue that gets sinestra down on turn 5 with perfect cards to buff itwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy
>>566778963I've got 4 wins today and 30 losses. Im at silver 8 now. With 4 stars. Every loss is from a discovered card. I just cant play this to save my life.
>>566779178you're obviously missing basic strategy concepts if you're struggling that much. Take games slower, look for alternate routes you could have taken. Make sure you're mulliganing properly.
>>566779178u had lethal with turn 4 dragon face into turn 5 dragon face. easiest deck in the game and browns STILL fuck it up
>>566779598>u had lethal with turn 4 dragon facehow
>>566780096just roll a big weapon bro
>>566779518what am i missing? genuinely.>>566780173oh, well i didn't so i lost.
>>566780362If my opponents can highroll and topdeck lethal, so can you anonbeelieve in yourself
>>566780943im 4 and 33 today. there is no believing. i'm one turn away from winning every other game and no matter the opponent deck they rng a win against me. i've tried n ospell dh today, dragon warrior, i'm about to switch to token druid but i know that isn't going to work either i don't know anything about this game anymore i don't get it.
>>566770473>/wowcg/ poster here>how do you people play this game? holy fuck.this has to be a trollpost, a wow player who has never heard of sunk cost fallacy?
>>566781345i just won 4 games in a row to get me to silver 3. i did't do anything different just got lucky on my dark gifts and weapons. it felt disgusting too.
holy shit if you discover wildwood circle from horn of plenty it costs zero when it combines
hey look, a card that has an actual workable deck
>diamond 1>lose 3 in a rowIt's so fucking over. Back to diamond 5 I go.
>no blogpostwew they might really just shrug their shoulders with this and hope that violet hold isn't another shitshow
>>566783987Look... i dont need itAlgo literally do job for you>>566764697this is game after that game
>>566787530>lost on t6 because double slitherFUCK OFF scripted 50% algoniggatrysee ya next 4 h
i played one more game(for 3 games quest) sorry i just cant.....
>>566785218I guess this is Cora plan but we are already done for with this absolutely hell of a meta.
blogpost tomorrow guys LOCK the fuck in
>diablo and wow get fanta themed cosmetics>hearthstone got nothingYIKES
you LITERALLY cannot win if a paladin topdecks perfectlyunless you're playing priest and have power word ruin, that's it
>>566798627>1/1 divine shield taunt>1/2 murloc + acceleration aura>shatter>nozdormuyou could literally have all 30 of your cards in your hand and you wouldn't be able to win. there are no theoretical counters except power word ruin.
>>566798817>me going 2nd>coin cinder>glave + illidari>horn of feasting
>>566798817You could try building a deck that counters this extremely linear and predictable play
>108k dust>nothing feels fun to playwill this ever change
i've won six in a row and i'm Diamond 1 nowi'm scared
>>566800367I believe in you, anon! :)
>>566800831thank you anon!i won one more match, two to go
blogpost any minute now
>>566784809Rank 4 now. This is why I have ladder anxiety. Worse case scenario in progress. Killing myself at rank 5.
>click on a button>hear the click sound>nothing happensHOLY FUCKING NIGGER UI
>>566799809no if algo involved
spell dh bros. I'm getting smashed by priests. How do I stop this. Priest bros, how do spell DH bros win against you?
>>566813178save up your otk (broxigar and hopefully a charge from location)no point in doing chip dmg vs them. if they are a psychopath like zetalot and run steamcleaner you leave the game and go next
how fucking mentally ill do you have to be to play armor druid and end up with 130 armor while having no cards left and then just slowly getting killed and not conceding?
I just don't get it. This is the third Onyxia he has played and it does not say where it came from?What is this cheating piece of shit.
Ok I'm retarded apparently but still getting two Onyxias from Hematurges is bullshit.
how do all these imbueslop decks always mage to draw literally all their imbue minions with 0 draw?
>>566821017>allowing dk to get more than 2 heralds off
I have 0% winrate in warrior mirror match up.Why has algo decided to make me the losing one every time?
Notice anything strange?
>>566816220>how fucking mentally ill do you have to be to play hearthstoneFTFY
>>566827534STOP noticing things
>your discovers and dark gifts are badYou lose and feel terrible>your discovers and dark gifts are goodYou win and feel terrible
>>566826984have you considered the possibility that this is indicative of a skill issue
>>566813178Illidari Inquisitor + 2 Lasting Legacies was how I took down my last priest
only 14 more days until the teaser of an announcement brosit's lining up pretty close to summer games fest, i wonder if they'd even have the budget an expansion announcement during those streams
>>566842163hopefully they announce mass layoffs
>>566816220how ? you literally 10 damage to opponent per turn while having 100 armor ?
>>566837015no, anon never makes any mistakes. every loss of anon is cora blueballing him. the possibility of anon making any mistake at all in his life is non existent. he is perfect in everything he does and extremely bright and beautiful too. he cannot err in his ways whatsoever
>>566827534not really. you are a dogshit player with a 50% winrate that belongs in the depths of platinum. what are you trying to imply exactly with this other than coming off as a massive loser?
Weird comp.... but ok
why are corabots so aggressive when you imply the existence of algo....
>>566850480Every time I tried to run the Jeb naga I lost, maybe I’ll try this
>>566851819Because of all the fluoride in their tap water.
>>566851819>win game>next game mage at 5 hp>you have 100% lethal in hand>but algo see your hand(not rigged btw)>suddenly lose because he discovers more heals and clearsALGO NOT REAL WAKE UP SHEEPS
crazy how having stealth for the first turn really doesn't change anything at all in regards to the tavern brawl.
When is the next balance patch so i know if i should craft Shaman herald or not
>>566855818never, game is perfectly balanced
crafted deathwing because i pulled every single herald card for 3 classes and i instantly regretted it, first game couldn't draw him at all and same shit for the next 6 gamessome games i couldn't even draw my herald cardsmeanwhile when i play against herald they always get ultraxion and deathwing on curve or top deck it at the perfect momentretarded nigger game
>20/20 egg still not nerfed skin these devs alive
can they please delete battlegrounds so standard can have actual human beings that work on it?
>>566856462I crafted deathwing day one because I was enjoying onyxia in the pre-release brawl.:(
>>566859037the worst part is that i couldn't even pull the good heralds, i pulled cho'gall, azshara and onyxia the 3 that are dumpster tier
>>566851819r*ddit loosh farm is dwindling pls understand
>>566858491but what if we played egg druid thohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xCzWTTjnU
>>566860306cant take this guy seriously anymore since he posted his flabby body on twitter
>>566853305why are algotards ALWAYS hiding their rank?>CORA IS KEEPING ME TRAPPED IN DIAMOND HELL>I DESERVE A HIGHER RANK BUT THE ALGO IS KEEPING ME DOWN MAN FR FR>WDYM THERES THOUSANDS OF PLAYERS THAT REACH LEGEND AND MANY OF THEM TOP LEGEND WHILE COMPLETELY F2P?>IT M-MUST BE A BUG IN THE ALGORITHM!1!dogshit loser behavior. typical for hsg virgin chuds ngl
>>566860306I got to Diamond 5 with this deck(from Diamond 2)
>>566864775>hiding rankactually game hiding your rank they never show you yours mmr.... im not deserve high rank because im playing homebrew obscure deck for FUN stop fucking projectin
Fell from diamond 1 to diamond 4 and now back to diamond 1. Wish me luck /hsg/! I'm uninstalling this garbage for real this time once I get there. This game is fucking dogshit now.
>>566866568there is no point to tryhard only if your aiming at MASTERS play for fun try new deck build your own deck... Diamond ideal place to try something new because on legend its fucking same 3decks rotation
>>566865672>(from Diamond 2)hearty kek
>pick Chevalla>turn 5>zero elementals in tavernvery Sus>>566850480my last match
Token druid was made op so that mentally challanged individuals can play this game
>>566867649like 80% decks in meta ? there is no bigbrain decks right now....
>>566867821True, I'm currently facing a shaman who is winning by drawing his herald cards and skillfully playing them on curve
Holy fuck this game is trash, it's so boring and brainless
>>566867478Im never pick Xtribe hero again.... or its algo ?
>>566868583you aren't supposed to take BG that seriously. it's just a way to piss away time and chip away at the xp track.if i pick a tribe specific hero (patches, chen, hogger etc) i know i've got a 10% chance of getting to abuse them
>>566864775>>566853305OHNONOONO THERE IS NO ALGOliterally zero chance to win ... still win because its my winning matchMOM WARRIOR IS LOSING AAAAHHHHHH im going insane
>>566870469fuck forgot to censor opponent name....
>>566870469>>566870718i laughed thank you anon for the giggle
>>566864775I am a top legend f2p, the algo is real.
>>566870927how do you lose vs rogue in 0 min game ? kekoh wait... double flashback clearly skill issue
Wi-wish me luck!...
>>566872097what deck ?
>>566872280One that you like and want to win!
>>566872973but i like Toki imbue mage... and its very not good
>>5668714708 turn game, they played nerubian swarmguard + double battlecry hatchery helper on turn 6, dracorex on turn 7, and on turn 8 I was dead. I closed the game before backing out to menu so that's why the time didn't record.
>>566872097>15 mins agohe's dead guys. we lost another one.
>>566873640priest matches can last for 40 min....