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Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74

[PoE 1]
>3.28 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes (embed)
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

[PoE 2]
>Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

Last general
>>566659452
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TUB
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POOP
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2 won
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retard
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patch notes when? i need fubbygubby to tell me what to leaguestart with
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>Abyss barely drops any bones and they’re basically worthless
>Delirium barely drops any emotions and they’re worthless
>Expedition doesn’t drop a thing
>Wisps drop idols very rarely and they’re worthless
>Rogue Exile are super rare even with all nodes taken, and they drop blue gear that’ll be useless even in campaign while on 15t maps
>Breach sucks
The fact that I’m still playing it and having fun is a testament to how fun Poe 2 is at its core. 0.5 is exactly what this game needs.
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They should add a roll counter
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comparison is the thief of joy
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>>566733575
>ritual not even mentioned
damn
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So what are the edicts?
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>>566733575
>Every single aspect of this game is garbage
>But haha, I'm still playing it so it must be doing something right
Very HARD line of thinking
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Swords when?
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>344 more poops until patch notes
>501 more poops until league launch
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>>566733895
You have IBS
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>>566733985
is that a keystone?
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what will be the OP build of the league?
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>>566733710
It's just Evangelion, in act 6 Doryani will scream "PÍLOT THE BEAST EXILE" and will fade to black, story will be resolved in the next 5 acts in 2032.
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>>566733312
All time Tri tweet
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>ARPGs with sword:
Diablo
Diablo 2
Diablo 3
Diablo 4
Diablo Immortal
Path of Exile
Grim Dawn
Torchlight
Torchlight 2
Torchlight 3
Torchligh Infinite
Hero Siege
Hero Siege 2
Titan Quest
Titan Quest 2
Undecember
Last Epoch
Sacred
Sacred 2
Victor Vran
The Incredibles Adventures of Van Helsing
Dungeon Siege
Dungeon Siege 2
Dungeon Siege 3
Fate
Fate 2
Fate 3
Fate 4
Wolcen
Bard's Tale
Darkstone
Divine Divinity
Nox
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2
Exanima
Minecraft
The Ascent

>ARPGs without sword
Path of Exile 2
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>>566734872
He's such a slimy little ball. Like he genuinely could not talk about PoE1 without backhandedly insulting it.
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>what if monsters are boxes :DDDDD
truly visionary stuff jonatroon
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>>566735040
He’s the GOAT for a reason
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>>566734872
astrology nothingburger
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>>566733705
>ritual
I’m absolutely certain they just ported it over from PoE 1 without changing a thing or adapting it to the smaller number of monsters in PoE 2.
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why does the karui king go back to normal after being giga fucked by corruption
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>>566735127
I'm reminded he actually hasn't played D2 at that point.
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>>566734930
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>>566735362
Muh island niggers aren't allowed to be bad guys.
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only 3,628 AI generated images of futa scion to go until league start
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>>566735362
Why not?
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I hope you guys like 0.5 end game and the "new" atlas cuz it's going to be here for the foreseeable future.
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>>566735781
I can't wait!
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>>566735362
probably something to do with what is happening in the cutscene where this happens
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Zaccie what build survives
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>>566735781
I will, thank you for the kind words.
Nice to see /poeg/ cleaning up their act and behaving better.
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>>566735781
it doesn't matter how shit the game gets
if it gets really bad and people are complaining enough, it will get changed and then all the mazed retards will immediately flip to 'DEVS LISTENED!!' mode
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>>566735781
ill be happy for more poe 2 stuff
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poe2 players will accept anything if it has tinks
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>>566735919
Every build survives unless you're a pussy who only play op shit
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>>566735617
Post them you coward
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>>566736059
dont pass your poe1 bullshit on us, poe1ers complaining are the whole reason temple got so out of hand
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>>566736059
I do like my tinks
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>>566735781
it's basically a 'soft' concession of their infinite atlas vision and step closer to poe1 atlas, just give them time to fully walk it back in a humiliation ritual stretched out for a few big patches
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niGGGer
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>>566736250
>poe1ers complaining are the whole reason temple got so out of hand
Jonathan made it with his own two hands fueled by his rage that PoE1 still exists.
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you shouldn't be allowed to skip dialogue or cutscenes
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>>566735919
Only Mace skills with 60% attack speed or lower
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I can't wait until they go away
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>>566736250
temple is the only reason 0.4 wasn't the worst league of all time
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>these are the people that want campaign skip
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>>566736695
the characters and lore saved 0.4 not cookie clicker loot
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>>566736761
Both shitters and pros would enjoy a skip. The skip just needs to be conditional or limited so that it's not available 100 times a week.
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>>566736605
many are saying this....
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>>566736695
it was the worst of all time though, they're trying to test shit and fucked up an entire patch with useless data
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>>566736836
>Characters and lore
No ONE gives a shit about this.
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>>566736896
Literally just make it so you don't have to run through the campaign again if you've already done it that league. I hate making alts because of it, don't they want the retention?
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>>566737065
You can beat campaign in 3 hours. Get gud.
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just made cheese toasties like the dude in the bottom right corner in mortal kombat, 0.5 is going to be kino you fags
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>>566737065
no, they want you to come back next league they dont care if you hate making a second character
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It is weird that PoE is one of the longest running, most successful live service games and the general is fucking awful and the content creators are all awful. Why is PoE specifically so bad?

This thread is one of the most ruined, terrible schizo-centrals on /vg/ and that is saying something. For a fucking ARPG of all things too.
Combine that with the content creators. They're all lazy bums who put in 0 effort. Every single one of them saw the new build creation feature and the instant response was "Yeah, I'm not doing that" when any other game would have people clamoring for any edge in their audience to do it. The feature will go laughably underused. The worst part is that there is seemingly no room for someone who actually tries. No new content creators came out of PoE2. The few Blizz grifters that tried to join don't get any traction as 'build creators' because they all just steal other builds. Like, LITERALLY it would require people like Ben, Fubgun, Captain Lance, and Jung all deciding to use the build guide feature for any significant number of people to use it.

I mean yeah, it is a useless feature for me. Especially in PoE2, where making a build is braindead easy, but whatever plans they had of people following guides regularly ain't gonna happen. The average PoE content creator is too lazy to even configure a single PoB. They're too lazy to edit them fumbling around in their stash for 2-3 minutes as they look for a random item.
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>>566737065
>don't they want the retention?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNMXz-HGDRE

i finally get to call someone in here a newfag
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>>566737338
>This thread is one of the most ruined, terrible schizo-centrals on /vg/ and that is saying something.
it really isn't
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>PoE is one of the most successful live service games
lol
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>>566737338
Ive not ever browser the other generals on the board but i doubt poeg is that bad compared to them, theres no way
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>>566737338
>It is weird that PoE is one of the longest running, most successful live service games and the general is fucking awful
be glad you dont play gacha's you little bitch
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>>566737338
>I am such a fucking tourist holy shit: The Post
Pop right off anon. Keep going.
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>>566737338
both games are far too easy, so instead of fighting the game you fight people playing the game.
they can save poe2 over the next couple months if they balance correctly otherwise it'll be like this forever.
poe1 only players are literally fighting to keep poe2 easy as fuck because they enjoy fighting players instead of playing the game
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>>566737338
>This thread is one of the most ruined, terrible schizo-centrals on /vg/
It truly isn't. I'd consider it middle of the pack.
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>he is a jingakh
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>>566715550
No it isn't. Both skill nodes are completely unusable. Totems unusable. Defense node unusable. Mediocre crit immunity. Mediocre crit node. Meme tier "secret nodes". Meme tier impossible escape node that forces you into taking bad keystones to get any value from it

All to be weaker than blood mage, infernalist, or djinn-bitch for any possible use case.

Complete. Trash.
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>>566737842
Not me
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>>566737943
Oracle legit has one of the highest damaging builds in the game, its just not very usable rn
Strength stacking with the oracle nodes you can POB some truly ridiculous numbers. Issue is you dont need that much damage and you're forced into maces since brutus lead sprinkler was added to the game and is by far the best strength stacking weapon
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>>566737338
>This thread is one of the most ruined, terrible schizo-centrals on /vg/
holy newfag
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>>566737338
shut up nigger idc I'm not reading all that fuck off if you don't like it here
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>>566738136
Strength stacking attack builds are fucking gay. The entire ascendancy oozes spellcaster and the only use case you can come up with is coping with coe and 3 nodes he has compared to literally anyone else? Titan or Smith would be better
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What will the reaction be when 1.0 is 230gb
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>>566737943
>Both skill nodes are completely unusable. Totems unusable. Defense node unusable. Mediocre crit immunity
Mostly true, but totems aren't unusuable.

>Mediocre crit node.
It's literal retardation to say that node is mediocre. It's an incredible offensive node every ascendancy other than BM would take if they had it.

>Meme tier "secret nodes".
Wrong again. Those nodes come with incredibly covered stats like CDR, movespeed and scaling vectors like Powerful Casting. On top of that, they provide extra synergy with timeless jewels.

>Meme tier impossible escape node
There's nothing meme about it, it's an incredible efficiency node that lets you take more nodes than other classes can. It also leads to absurd time-lost jewel value, which I'm sure you can't appreciate as you sound like you hate endgame gearing and expensive jewels.

>All to be weaker than blood mage
Bloodmage is ztank and zmobility in comparison, and oracle catches up to BM damage with sufficient budgets (and exceeds it probably).

>infernalist
Kek ok, I'd love to see your "better than Oracle" infernalist pob.

>or djinn-bitch
Not even comparable, has 0 lategame power.

>>566738136
>its just not very usable rn
It's perfectly usable.

> you're forced into maces
You're not forced into shit, put a crown of eyes on. Str stacking literally works for every weapon type.

>>566738735
>the only use case
There's almost no build archetype you can't make on Oracle because it's very point-efficient and comes with cheatcode nodes.
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2.3mb*
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>>566738735
Titan or smith might be overall better for strength stacking but in terms of damage oracle is on a different level. Both the rage nodes, spell damage nodes (with crown of eyes) and the strength nodes just makes it truly absurd, PoB wise
Im not the guy you originally replied to
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>>566738896
Early Access still bwo, let them cook
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I kneel, ex-ggg employee
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>>566739105
This was debunked already
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FnuVispNc

LEts talk about poe2 campaign
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>>566738945
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal?sort=dps
Please do show me all these secret oracle builds topping the dps charts nigger
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>>566739351
debunked the doubters, yes
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>>566739483
Oh so you're literally retarded, I won't mess with you then, carry on.
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>>566739532
Doubters of what?
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>>566739483
you cant be this retarded
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>>566739682
Of the leak
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>>566739719
He didnt leak anything that wasnt available on the press release kit already
The rest of the leaks are just hearsay anyone can make up, like all that shit about Jonathan can neither be confirmed nor denied unless an employee publicly speaks up
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>>566739653
>>566739703
So literally no argument then?
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>>566739105
if PoE actually only has 8 game designers, that would explain why they take forever with every content update. those guys are probably locked up in a fart gas chamber and just wing it from day to day.
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>>566739351
you are talking to the faggot that wrote it
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>>566739894
There's no argument I can make to fix the brain of someone who thinks poeninja DPS for POE2 is even in the same zipcode as accurate. You live in a dream world. You're fucking Chayula.
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>>566739878
Contents of the MTX packs were not known to press release kit.
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>>566740183
Not just that but people only top those charts if the build is actually good and not just PoB warrior shit
Why? Because you need to actually pay all the mirrors for all that gear, aint no one does it unless it clears as well as CoC comet
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>>566740026
Wasn't going to post anything, but I had to call you out on this blatant lie. I am actually the one who posted that.
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>>566740191
Why didnt he leak the arbiter which wasnt revealed in their content reveals? His MTX descriptions are too broad "designed after bosses" not really. He didnt even mention that $480 hideout or what it looks like, which if he did that i'd believe him
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>>566740337
I was actually the one who posted it and I made it all up
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>>566740183
>>566740282
So post a post you think is better and we can compare apples to apples with dps and ehp. Easily done. But you won't do it because you got blown the fuck out in 2 seconds
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>forever with every content update
Surely people don't actually believe this, right? Poe has always been one of those games that gets massive, frequent updates, I honestly can’t think of any other game quite like it in that respect.
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>>566740485
keep coping bro
Facts speak after themselves
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woodland josephor said 0.5 is overcooked and it's too much shit (aka bloat)
is he right?
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>>566740282
>but people only top those charts if the build is actually good
No, they top it if they have a skill POEninja can read to some degree. If you knew anything about this game, you would know it's physically impossible for a high-end comet pob to have higher DPS than a high-end flicker pob for example, because comet can't even use garukhan's.

>aint no one does it unless it clears as well as CoC comet
Bows clear just fine, wyvern clears just fine, all self-chill builds clear just fine.
You sound like a shitter who got filtered in t11 maps and gave up, and now you think it's because you didn't play CoC.
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>>566740625
https://pobb.in/GFqjUBr-0Dv7
you won't physically be able to find a caster build that does more DPS than this, because casters can't use Garukhan's so there's an uncrossable damage gap built in (provided you don't use a bugged interaction).
for the record, this build is NOT configured and POB does not support crucial tech for it, and it already shows a paper 160m. it does billions in reality.
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>>566740909
Bows and wyvern clear fine in regular maps, in juiced temples not really. Self chill ill give you tho, that build is busted
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>>566736761
Nobody is going to do a second character during a league, unless you are a neet tranny who's injecting estrogen with aids infested needles. Any sane person will look at the long as campaign and say no to it. Don't reply back with, b-b-but the campaign warriors will! The burnout rate is going to be astronomical.
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>>566740685
>Maxroll
>Diablo 4
>TurboHUD
you're joking right
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>>566741275
>in juiced temples not really
What would stop bows from not working in temples? Temples are an incredibly bow-friendly, there are walls and monsters for chaining/forking/splitting.
I don't even play bows but you people just say things that can be disproved with a 2 minute youtube trip.
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the nerf (patch) notes are going to cause unfathomable levels of butthurt. i dont care about anything else i just want to see how mad people will be on the 21st
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>>566741535
I welcome all nerfs and hope they're so severe that we have to completely rethink our approach to POE2.
I want to press 10 buttons to kill Jamanra in less than 5 minutes.
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>>566740685
yes, they love adding worthless shit just to make you buy stash tabs
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>bloat league! *onions face*
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They should add 5 second cooldowns to every skill
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Adding literally anything new is bloat.
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Uooohhh bloat...
*slaps Jonathan's fat belly*
Blooooooooooaaaaaaaaaatt
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I like how bad poe2 is that all it's leagues have a word associated with it like slog and bloat
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>>566733705
Get some help and stop getting so angry.
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Dad gamers won't even finish the campaign before the league ends.
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>spend 10 months to appeal to maybe 3% of your player base
>ignore the rest who just wanted a static atlas and swords
impressive fuck up jonatroon
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>>566742492
I'm not angry, I'm sad. I like ritual.
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>>566741143
>>566740625
awful quiet gupta
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>>566742937
but you will have a static atlas from your perspective, since the start will be much more predictable and pre determined? you wouldnt play beyond that anyways so its as static as it gets for you
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I really liked lightning spear in d2, couldn't play the first patch huntress came out. Played during the second patch and it was nerfed. Any idea if it will be better this patch?
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The wait is killing me bros
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>>566743610
Lightning spear is awesome. I saw a lot of builds playing non-frenzy version but imo the skill just looks fkin amazing when empowered with frenzy charges
Theres a tactician build that uses pin tech to have 100% uptime on frenzy charges, it relies a bit on gear tho to not be ZDPS, but every LS is a frenzy charge empowered one
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>>566742937
its been like this since poe1

the games are for the 1% of the 1%
the streamers and no lifer neets
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best ascendency in the game. discuss
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>>566744982
They need to add a setting to disable sprinting, I keep holding down spacebar for a fraction of a second too long and get fucked.
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>>566745332
This, also for being able to use blink properly, the way it interacts with sprint is incredibly irritating.
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casualfags are what ruin video games
literally the audience that gives up or quits first out of every other player base
never appease casualfags and mom&pop "gamers"
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I only play female characters.
I only play pet builds.
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>>566742937
It’s so good to be one of those 3%
I'm waiting for a tab sale to upgrade my copy to the $100 edition. I already have all the tabs currently available in Poe 2 so I’ll buy fragment tab in Poe 1 and maybe another large one as well.
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>>566746028

I only play Marauder
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FnuVispNc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FnuVispNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FnuVispNc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FnuVispNc

ITS FUCKING UPPPPPP!!!!
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>>566742937
>what do u mean i can't sweat run the same map on repeat!!!! what the hell jonathan why are u making me interact with the game!!!
kill yourself
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>>566747057
we know
we need a campaign skip
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>>566747119
I fucking love player freedom (as created by GGG) so much bros.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3XXzOEzhrM
He has SPOKEN.
RF dadgamers are COPING.
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>>566747057
>Zizaran
Not going to watch. Going to assume he's still butthurt about getting btfo'd by the wolves in Grelwood
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>>566733312
Why is it whenever I look at a streamer or plebbit thread about poo2 it completely kills any desire I have to play this game? They literally only care about numbers.
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is wyvern goner frens
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>>566742937
Go play PoE1 unironically. I am glad that PoE2's endgame is different. Yeah, the state of it in 0.1-0.4 was like a joke, and I wasn't laughing. However, I cannot honestly believe that there are people who are like:
>Yeah let me blast exclusively dunes in PoE1 for 500 hours a league and then go to PoE2 and blast Nu-Dunes for 500 hours just in time for PoE1 to go back and blast dunes for 500 hours, etc etc etc etc
That is what I do in PoE1. I love Dunes, Silo, Strand, etc. If PoE2 was just that again I'd probably end up quitting one of them entirely.
>Swords
Yeah that is gay and retarded and Jonathan is a fucking hack for putting in maces first, but guess what? They need free marketing for 1.0 :^)
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>>566748783
For me it is IIR and Gem levels. They basically ruin gearing. If a unique/item lacks gem levels (and it is available in that slot) it sucks. If you don't have at least like 100% IIR you're literally trolling.

Once IIR is axed and gem levels are reduced to PoE1 levels of like +2/3 at max, it should hopefully feel better.
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>>566748783
the whole game is about making good numbers bigger and bad numbers smaller thoughever
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>>566747790
he's on jonathat shitlist after bad question in interview, so he's in pure glaze mode until he's allowed at the trough again
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>>566747391
Obviously its shit you are supposed to run it with minions or the djinn ascendancy
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>>566743501
>still forced into running dogshit layouts and unjuiced maps
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We need more anime in PoE2. Everyone loves anime girls.
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>>566741535
didn't mark say they weren't interested in balance as much this patch?
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>>566749626
>Everyone loves anime girls.
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>>566749327
I get that, but there's a difference between making a character you find fun then trying to minmax it, vs not giving a fuck and just picking the absolute strongest gem aka full meta. I was looking at poeninja the other day to see what other people were doing with similar builds to mine and it was literally nothing but coc/comet bullshit on every single class every single gem
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>>566750797
that's because coc comet is fun
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>>566749296
I remember people glazing GGG before PoE 2 launched for removing added damage to spells and damage effectiveness to spells as it confused new players
Now everyone complains about the simplified system with more gem levels, despite it functionally being the exact same (ignoring the fact that spells are dogpoop in PoE 1 without jiquani or archmage)
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Holy shit been leveling huntress/mercenary/ranger in the last 4 leagues and just know tried a SSF monk run and holy shit what the fuck were they thinking, its complete ass act 1 monk, everything takes 30% of your life and you don't have easy acessible AoE early on, how the fuck people survive with this shit without losing their minds?
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>>566747391
Is he retarded or does he not know there are uniques that solve all those problems, except the command skill being hit based which does hurt it, but not as much once you fix the other scaling problems
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>>566747057
>>566747790
I will never watch Ziz because his voice is intolerable and he is a fake 2 face mofo.
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>>566751120
this and the long hair ginger
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>>566751120
>Tho uh, if you, if you take thith thing and then add it, like thith, you can connect them together and then make thomething thronger
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Going into PoE 2 the prospect of a "build a skill" system was very interesting, but I'm increasingly confused why support gems are even in the game.

Right now in my Ranger playthrough I'm casting Barrage before every Lightning Rod cast. I never cast one without the other. Effectively they are one skill with two key presses.
... isn't this the sort of thing that the Support Gem system ought to accomplish? Modify lightning rod in a meaningful, interesting way. Support gems instead largely offer straight damage buffs with no apparent change in function, or marginal QoL improvements. Make your main attack deal more damage and that's it (in which case there's a mathematically correct answer for which to use). Or, slightly more interesting I guess: put Increased Duration and Faster Casting in your Orb of Storms so it's less annoying to use.

My point isn't that needing to click two keys is so terrible (though it would be nice not to). I'm just not sure why this system is in the game when all the meaningful skill modification in PoE 2 happens through synergies and conditionals of the skills themselves, and this much-hyped "build a skill" system doesn't do anything like what you hope it would.
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>>566751120
I hate him because he’s the most popular PoE content creator (no, quin isnt a poop content creator anymore) and has been for years
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>>566751120
do you want your face smashed into a door frame?
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>>566751459
Originally the game had it so you could only use a a support gem 1 time across all your skills. It basically meant you had a main skill with all of the good damage supports, a secondary skill with the mediocre/usable ones, and then mediocre/bad "utility" gems in every other slot.
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>>566751521
I'd still say Mathil is.
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Politely asking Bear anons who are familiar with build to rate mine.
How does my tree look?
How good are my items?
How to craft good rings?
Hows my atlas (i have no clue whats the best version)
Thank you all
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>>566751838
It's shit
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>>566751838
Stupid me forgot my link
https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1b059



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