>Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients - May 29thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74>!!! ROTA TEASERS !!!https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3929742[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previously on retard general; >>566733312
>he is a jingakh
>they put him on probation for speaking the truth
Are we aware of any balance changes? We'll know a couple of days before the league at least right?
mornin'
>>566819237There'll be patch notes on May 21.They have mentioned there's a Chrono rework, equipment bases retuning, we know of the leech rework which will dramatically impact the CoC blood mages and rathpith users.Feels like there's been concentrated bitching about early game staff skills so maybe something gets a little tuned there.
>>566819234what does "On Probation" mean
>>566819237Patch Notes are releasing on the 21st, 1 week before league launch.
>>566819234The runes dont drop, you craft them. It's similar to PoE 1 Runesmithing.I don't get why everyone is sperging out about them.>Muh stash space!!!If they're "core" then the rune tab will be updated.
got the game over the weekend and i've been having fun but i'm really struggling to stick with a class. every time I get to around the middle of act 1 or 2 I start to get a bit bored with the playstyle of my class. Just got to act 4 on a minion witch build but now I find myself thinking about other classes again
We pumping for GGG's first 10 million viewed video?
>>566819720This is the ideal player Jonathan wants
comparison is the thief of joy
>>566819234is he wrong tho
>>566819278what's with poe and nipple covers anyway, why can't they just go nude or wear a shirt? tribal women would never cover their nipples because they're feeding the tribe's children
broswhen do I start prepping
WHY CALL IT POE2 EVEN?WHY NOT UPGRADE THE EXISTING POE1 INTO THE NEW ANIMATION AND GRAPHICS ENGINEWHYYYYY
>>566819757I hate being like this though I wish I could settle on something
can you feel the excitementI wonder how many millions they'll spend on streamerskek
>>566819779he's playing the wrong genre of video game given what he seems to want out of it, at the very least.
>>566820107Who even uses the forum?
>>566820107>all those uniques locked behind the endest of endgame no normal player will ever get to>streamers will make hundreds of pogging out videos how awesome unique xyz isgreat move
>>566819782Bare breasts are reserved for the monsters.>https://litter.catbox.moe/ga8ias1rcgl09221.jpg
>>566820107I'm not trying to doom but this might unironically be the lowest peak players yet. Reddit dads don't care about pinnacles and runes. They'd get more hype from them if the update was just swords and nothing else.
minion zoomancer now s+++ starter or nah
>>566820404probablyGGG said they basically tripled damage of summons
>>566820404>>566819851We have no patch notes, we do not know, wait until the 21st
>>566820287I hope they have given up on that boss and scrapped it cuz I thought it looked really stupid and tasteless when they showcased it years ago.I'm good with body horror and obscenity but it has to be cool.
>>566820287brine maidens would make really good spectres too if they had any movement speed at all. i plan on playing them if we ever get any decent sources of it.
>>566819720Not your fault. PoE 2 is ass and the only people who say otherwise are either on GGGs payroll (i.e. streamers) or Discord trannies. The game is a huge mess and misses the mark as a worth successor to PoE 1.
>>566820475Unlikely.
Is it worth just going back and playing poe 1 instead of 2?
>>566820491did they ever fix the AI for them as companions yet? the spectres work fine but if you tame a rare one her AI bugs out and she just runs away off-screen constantly and the only thing she does is scream at something that gets near her, like a real woman
>>566820572Retarded ESL comprehension.
>>566820659Oh shit I had minor grammar mistakes! Better attack that rather than address the point.
>>566819748>inb4 there is some antibot system in place which gets a video flagged if it reaches 10m views with more than half of them botted
>>566820769Why? you're one of those boring "I go out of my way to be miserable and unhappy 24/7 posters" who does nothing but whine post.Frankly, you can go fuck yourself.
what's with the sudden rise of streamers playing hpt monk? it's utter garbage and much weaker than qstaves builds.is this some new bait for poop2 drones because of martial artists? do they realise you can play martial artist WITH weapons??
>>566821024Shut the fuck up, nigger. I very much enjoy PoE 1. PoE 2 sucks dick and should never have been attempted.
Does "Defend with 200% of your armour against crits" applies to "% of your armour applies to elemental damage"?So lets say i have 50k armourAnd 200% of armour applies to elemental damageDoes this mean i have 50k*2*2=200k armour against crits?
>>566821141Ye, unless it specifies it's only for physical (I think there's an item that does specify that).
>>566821107>I very much enjoy PoE 1That already says everything I need to know about you.
>>566821309Where do you think you are? This is /poeg/, not /poe2g/. PoE 2 has too few people who gives a fuck to have its own general thread.
>>566819115troon mad at getting called out for fucking himself upmore news at 11
>>566821390This is the poe2+D4 general lil gupgup
>>566821390>PoE 2 OP image>PoE 1 only gets two lines sandwiched between the PoE 2 news we're all excited forFace it, grandpa, we've outgrown you.
>>566821249thnx senpai
>>566821536>>566821560You sure have outgrown us all.
Count Geonor theme is 10x better than any music written for poo1
>>566821740Many are saying this!
>>566821659shouldn't y'all poopers be happy that poop2 exists? if they did what they were originally planning on, poe1 literally wouldn't exist right now. >two campaigns with a (((shared endgame)))you know damn well what endgame that would have been.
1000000000% theyre gonna nerf boss companion damage into the guttersomeones gonna make a ridiculously OP build, ggg will see it and nerf it into the ground
>going through all this trouble to tinker atlas generation for current evergreen mechanicsShows how stupid haired fucking retard is, since they will add more mechanics to evergreen pool they will have to redo atlas generation over and over againfucking shortsighted tard
>>566821852are you saying poo2's endgame is a jewish trick
>>566821740I only wish all poem parts were good. There's one section that's really subpar>your veins soon chilledlmao, worse than AIslop or ESLslop
>>566822019what are they gonna do, run out of room to put the mechanic hubs in? it's infinite lol
>>566822019They will remove the infinite atlas eventually. It'll be a funny core memory, we'll look back and laugh at it the same way we look back and laugh at playing without a currency exchange. It'll be a funny story, like, "oh yeah remember those towers lmao"
>>566821852They should never have made it a sequel if it can't improve upon the existing systems of PoE 1. Right now they're reinventing the wheel and making it into some type of soulslike. The action part of an ARPG is more or less gone.
>>566822241>The action part of an ARPG is more or less gone.That was the problem with poe1 that poe2 is solving
>>566822223It's here to stay lil bro
Guys, I'm thinking I'm going to fall for the Spiritwalker meme. What I am in for?
>>566822445having fun and then respeccing affter.
>>566822362it would be retarded to remove it considering it is a better system than the poe1 atlas. it's basically what the poe1 atlas should have been, an infinite hellscape that you get trapped inside.
>>566822296Then it's not a sequel, but a new thing altogether, not worthy of the name. I don't think anyone would have batted an eye of they made "Stories of Wraeclast" or some other shit, but they wanted to use their existing playerbase rather than build a new IP within their existing universe.
wait, are you all bots or are real human beans actually considering giving poo2 another flush?
>>566822445realizing that count geonor makes for a terrible minion and then getting bored
>>566822782you won't have an ascendancy point by then.
>>566822868you can go back to previous acts whenever you want
>>566822738im a human bean, excited to see if they nerf gemlings +%qual/+skill nodes or if thats going to be my campaign asc
>>566822630they should have called it "FUCKING KINO" to let everyone know what they were about to get into.
>>566822630Nah it's exactly what a sequel should be, the same core design but delivering on the ARPG genre's promise that got lost in it after over a decade of incremental bloat
>>566822782I'm going to predict that GGG will go fun police and say that Geonor is not a beast
So is the spider thing the pinnacle boss for the league or not? They showed the crater and said they weren't gonna spoil it but then they showed the laser spider coming out of a very similar looking crater with a very similar looking meteor later.
>>566822738POE2's fun and I can't play POE1 all year long anyway, shifting between two games is comfy.A game can have issues and still be entertaining.
>entire genre is about killing monsters for equipment>playerbase vehemently would rather slap some orbs onto an item and generate their equipment insteadCan someone explain this phenomenon
Anyone else lie in bed hugging a normal-sized pillow under your blanket in the pitch black on your racecar bed and pretend like you're experiencing teen love?What age should I stop doing this? Be honest.
Isn't league launch usually just one week after the big announcement stream? Why is it over two weeks now?
>>566823102Are you fucking kidding, you cant say they are fun police after they let you tame a bunch of unique bosses, nothing like this exists in poo1
>>566823237the equipment from monsters isn't meaningful enough.
>>566823093They're adding more bloat in PoE 2 than there is in PoE 1. 100+ runes btw. Still no crafting station.
>>566823237People kill monsters for orbs, people kill monsters for items, people put the orbs on items. It's fun and it commoditizes it so you can be rewarded for just killing monsters if you don't want to think about it or just combining other people's orbs and items in clever ways if you don't wanna kill monsters.
>>566823349It's obvious this league isn't going core. Absolute fucking mess. That's why they made it a side quest of Expedition instead of a main endgame mechanic. But it means they can bloat it without too much long term damage.
>>566823238No and 55
>>566823349the problem with the crafting bench doomposting is that serious crafters don't care, it's actually less annoying to craft without the bench.
>>566823238It's not about age. You only stop doing it when you find a viable replacement. Normally I'd have said that would be "never" in your case, but it looks like you'll be able to have a robowaifu soon so nobody will be incels anymore.
>>566821859companions come irreversibly pre-nerfed by having ass-retarded AI regardless.
>>566823234everyone knows poo2 will never be good
>>566823445Dunno how you failed to notice that they have shifted philosophies to "everything goes core immediately". It was a little more gradual with POE1, but it has been with POE2 from the first patch.
>>566823634It's good enough for me, I'm certainly not playing blizzard games or other "ARPGs" instead.
The best Phasers are Chinese.,
>>566823605It's not about that. It's about deterministic crafting that doesn't require you to interact with 5-6 different mechanics to make an item. In PoE 2 you have to add sockets to an item, then have whatever runes you need to fill missing stats. In PoE 1 you can sacrifice currency to just add whatever the item needs. You know this.It wouldn't be such a big deal if PoE 2 on top of all that didn't drop nearly as much loot to begin with. Once you have a finished build and blast through the endgame it's OK, but getting a character going on leaguestart is miserable. I don't see how anyone can pretend otherwise.
>>566820127PoE ruining the genre doesn't mean he's playing the wrong genre, only that he put too much faith into GGG (an embarrassingly juvenile mistake, admittedly.)
Any more leaks?
Is that bullshit in temple with body modifications gonna stay in? Feels like it had zero motion or impact, didnt see anyone ever talk about it after the content reveal
>>566823825well in poe1 you need to interact with 5-6 different mechanics to make an item so thats a wash. as far as a shitter that just wants some extra res, opening a menu, putting an item into the menu, scrolling through a list of shit, selecting the craft, clicking craft, taking the item out of the menu and equipping it, is no less tedious than clicking an orb onto an item to add a socket and then putting a rune into it.
>Feels likelul fag
>>566823963What ARPG has ever been heavy on the "action" part? All the way back to Diablo it was very simple point-and-click and keep clicking until the stats and dice rolls decided who won and who lost. Nobody wanted or needed dodge rolling. Just being real time instead of turn based was all the "action" ever meant to differentiate it from the traditional RPGs of the time. As the genre developed ALL the heavy gameplay has been in the build-crafting part of the game rather than the moment-to-moment combat. Attempting to turn that focus on its head is a complete betrayal of the genre - at best you're making a new sub-genre.
>>566823267>after they let you tame a bunch of unique bosses This is done merely for the PR. They did promise a lot of cool shit that turned out worthless.
>>566823267That was a PR move. You'll eat those words when you see how it actually works.
>>566824153The difference is that you need to get the socket currency, then you need to find the individual stats on runes as well. That means more RNG just to cap resistances while leveling. It's giga cringe. It doesn't make anything more interesting, just tedious.
>>566824202So, all those shitty games YOU like still exist. Why aren't you playing them though?
>>566823102He is currently considered beast but in the Q&A they said they don't know, and I’m not sure whether this was an attempt to spark attention or whether they genuinely had no idea what had been decided in this regard.>>566824060Yeah, temple is staying.>didnt see anyone ever talk about it after the content revealWe need to look at the patch notes for this, which haven’t been released yet. We’re still not entirely sure what they’ve actually did to fix temple. They didn’t have time to talk about all this at the announcement or even during the Q&A.
>>566824202>is a complete betrayal of the genreI don't care, I don't owe the genre anything
>>566824202>As the genre developed ALL the heavy gameplay has been in the build-crafting part of the game rather than the moment-to-moment combat. Attempting to turn that focus on its head is a complete betrayal of the genre - at best you're making a new sub-genre.The implication with this bit is that these two aspects of the game are somehow at odds or come at the expense of one another. That is retarded and entirely baseless. You know that, of course - but you say it anyway because it makes both GGG and the PoE1 screamer autist playerbase look bad to pretend otherwise.
>>566824358you have to find crafting currencies and unlock crafting recipes in poe1. the crafting bench is gay, get over it.
>>566824358>socket currencyNo problem at all.>individual stats on runesNew mechanics give you a certain degree of choice over the runes you get.
do i go ssf in 0.5t. 400h doesnt understan 90% of the game
>a complete betrayal of the genreShut the fuck up you hysterical woman.So many posters ITT are so fucking gay lmao.
>>566824743Lmao you suck dicks? Jonathan has a knobber
>>566824596>New mechanics give you a certain degree of choice over the runes you get.Yeah, at the endgame. Doesn't help capping resistances as you progress.
>>566824808You ok?
>>566824426lack of endgame mostly
>>566824617imo no, the trade market will probably be a lot more interesting than the one in 0.4 and there'll be ample ways to get rich.SSF is fun for the problem-solving aspect, but you rob yourself a lot of the satisfaction of getting valuable loot that you don't need personally but can sell. I personally enjoy the tinks and I think this league will be good for it due to the diversified endgame, many item and currency sinks added, more strats, and more chase uniques.
>>566824617yes, I always play ssf, trade just kills the fun
>>566824743Its funny because no matter how mad you poe2 tourists get online, the trend is clear and GGG keeps walking back every gay soulslop mechanic and mobility nerf patch by patch. The game will be PoE proper again within the year, and you won't do shit about it. You won't stop playing. You won't even leave this thread.You lost.
>>566824617Go trade but only use the currency exchange, buying items cheapens the experience. Also go Hardcore trade because the economy is better and you won't be dying anyway with the new rune cheat death mechanic.
Lily was right, when are these FREAKS going to go away.They're just boring agitators.
>if you have a sceptre with a purity aura and socket support gems into it that costs spirit, they dont cost any additional spirit since the purity aura costs 0 spiritThis seems retarded as fuck
>>566824617I just play trade and don't trade but i like to have the option. There's no bonus in playing ssf unlike LE.
>>566824909The _only_ difference between SSF and Trade is how much time you're willing to sink into the game. That's literally it. If you want everything to be a slog and think the game should be your next MMO experience, go ahead. SSF is perfect. If not you play Trade.
>>566825054>>566825014>>566824909>>566824906o-okaytrade it isi've got a lot of learning ahead of me
>>566819234>he thinks int players like poo2Just goes to show how much of a failed experiment this trash really is
>>566825125nah, i just want to play an arpg without being a sissy needing help from others
My build for 0.5? Whatever the GOAT makes a guide for
>>566824997Cute.I'm a game enjoyer however, shame you were RAPED as a child in whatever eastern euro shithole you hail from, but thats your problem.
>>566825224Isn't his point that dex players like poo2 but they're trying to cater to int players with each update instead?
>>566825271>>566824875
>>566824997soulslop has been in poe1 since the very beginning. you can't get out of the first zone without dodging hillocks attacks. and you sure as shit aren't facetanking hailrakes glacial cascade.
>Each new rune must have an additional tier and bonded modifier for the druid (160+ new runes)>Each beast boss must be further adapted to serve as a companion>Each Kalguran unique item must have several alternative versions created and a unique rune effect>Each item base must be manually adjusted for ward>All low-level unique items need to be converted into high-level manually>Each unique pair of gloves must have a new modifier for the new monk ascendancyDon’t you think they’re creating too much work for themselves? Instead of finishing the game, you know.
league start ritualist every league
>>566825347>you can't get out of the first zone without dodging hillocks attacksAre you retarded or new
I don't get it. If you want to roll you can play a defense build and if you don't you can play a 1 shot everything build. Why aren't both players happy?
>>566825239Great, then avoid all forums, third-party resources like Path of Building etc.. and play the game without any external input.
>>566825498because their joy has been thieved, comparatively
>>566825517ingame help, you insecure sissy
ds_larry is a fucking tranny
>>566825498>you can play a defense buildno such thing
>>566825307Post your kiwi tourist.R A P E D
>>566825579>I want to be helped in every way that actually matters (learning the mechanics, making builds) but if I exchange items I earned for items someone else earned I become a sissy
>>566825427>everyone facetanks hillock and hailrake.
>>566824474>>566823267I can see them cutting Geondor because "narrativly" it makes no sense to tame him. Maybe they will let you tame him in maps.
>>566825360Absolutely, but johnnyboy gets off on having a difficult dev cycle. He's said so multiple times.
>>566825656Raped that freak
>>566825656Thats AI
>>566825678yeah, getting items that didn't drop is basically cheating in a game about drops
>>566825360>finishing the gameoh you! that is what makes a game feel more finished
>>566825579Nah, you didn't want any help. Own up to what you said.
>>566825762You take that back. I fucking hate AI.
>2 KIWIS>ONE HAPPY CUSTOMER
>>566825898
>>566825876I just use pob, don't care about your tradie sissy meltdown, pathetic worm
SSF troons getting uppity again huh
>all the right side classes get cool and build enabling skills for their ascendancies>meanwhile warrior
JONATROON
>>566825945>I just use this external app because I can't figure out how to build my charGotcha.
>>566826398>Viewbot69Maybe watch a real gamer next time kiddo.
>>566826534Which unique ascendancy skill is that?
>>566826398You can probably just one-shot this boss as smith, provided you’re not an idiot.
>>566826534
>This is poewunners champion
Kripp won btw
>>566826493>I just trade for whatever I need and never actually play the game but still whine all dayGotcha.
>>566826534I miss thorns. Still have no clue why the felt the need to nerf it when it wasn't even that strong to begin with.
>>566826640This retards video was so funny
>>566826920Thats what GGG does with everything, it's Nerf or nothing.They balance around skills they personally like and want to be good, not what is good for the game
>>566819194
>>566826784That's the best you've got?
>>566826398poo1 players could never understand the satisfaction of this gameplay
>>566826905fuarkin chills biiihttps://youtu.be/cVq4zJ1WbaQ?t=66
>>566826905only 3 humans in this image
>>566827242musk, lily (tranny but still human technically), and kripp?
>>566826905Goated thumbnail
Check this out>right now i probably stunned kulemak in some weird casting animation so now he is immune to damage>yesterday i tried to finish my Kulemak invitation and final form bugged and i couldnt get rewards from fight>day before yesterday i killed final wave simulacrum boss to close to gate to other area and all items glitched out there so i couldnt pick themMELEE IS SO FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do people make a shit ton of currency in PoE 2?Is it the exact same as PoE 1 or are there differences?
>>566827639league mechanics and stacking +rarity or -rarity
>>566822054actually true they wrote 4 stanzas but one sucks ass
>>566823243watch the video and find out
I’m tired of the brown subhumans that infest this general
>>566828192Only more of them will arrive once PoE 2 becomes F2P and drops the $30 entrance fee. Bad times ahead
>>566828192thousands of indians gain access to the internet every day
>>566827639be a streamer and people give you the moneyfind an arbitrage craft and exploit it until it's saturatedtrade cyclical currencies back and forththat sort of shit mostly
Bros... reddit is downvoting newbies for complaining that the game doesn't explain anything again...
>>566828787And they are right
>>566827639same shit as poe1. farm, craft, flip.if you can find an underserved market you can make a lot of currency with little investment. i made a few k div making these rings in 0.4bought cheap bases with flat mana, light % and cast speed. 1 in 3 perfect essence for mana% , then kurgul desecrate for cooldown recovery.
never played huntress before. what's up with her, is she some kind of bogan? her english is atrocious.
>>566828192Just think. There are well over a billion indians and the worst of them haven't gotten access to the internet yet.
>>566828787Because it does? Or is this about poe1
>>566829424I'd take 10 new-to-the-internet jeets for every jaded redditor/xitter faggot posting here, at least they'll be able to say something new and interesting.
>>566829073Worse, one of em northerners.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGf3VRdEuZM
>>566826649beauty baby i am see you! you are love im giveing for youcoming for india with me? kiss youre bobs
>>566829512SAAR
haha freythorn cultist witch no pantsu
>play hc trade>only use currency exchange>trade if I hit a wall that will take too long to get around>migrate to hcssf once I die or get bored of the leaguepersonally I think this is the most fun way to play.
I CANT WAIT TO PLAY PATH OF EXILE 2 SO FUCKING BAD BROS I CANNOT WAIT ANYMORE
>>566829772too many oneshots in this game for deathless to be fun. i'll do it in souls games.
>>566829826samebuti forgot everythinghow to craftwhere to farm stuffhow to get better geareverything
>>566829750Yeah that's exactly what I mean, none of them will think this is funny and have such obvious and lame reactions.
>>566829879all of that stuff is changing so it's not like it matters.Each league seems to target different gear now and crafting is changing with a billion new runes added.
>>566829512saaaaar
>>566828281We already had several free weekends that had negative player growth, the normies aren't playing lol
>>566830035here's hoping someone makes a 0.5 poe2 for beginner 101
>>566830224the worst poe 2 league had more players than the best poe 1 league. a trend with no end in sight.
After days of training I'm finally getting good at leveling Monk, just did a run of act 1 without deaths, no unique or any rare weapon and still was able to complete in 58 minutes.
>>566830224A lot of people stay away from early access. The game will effortlessly beat its current player record when 1.0 launches this december.Not even an ounce of cope, screenshot this post if you want.
>>566830723Conveniently leaving out how every league peak is lower than the last, and retention is horrible.They don't care about poe1, so why do you?
poop2 remains bad
>>566831018OHH SORRY HAHA i meant D4 my bad
>>566828192brown game. deal with it.
>>566830965Poop2 double dips launches for fun, without being a complete game, Jonny is a master strategist Two shit games, one tub.
D4 won.
>>566831102Apology accepted.
...the 3 weeks a thread contest
>311 more poops until patch notes>468 more poops until league launch
>>566830969>every league peak is lower than the lastwhy lie?
>>566831440the # of poops went up day to day?
Does anyone remember during i think either the Poe 2 launch or the first major league patch, a doomfag made a thread and started linking sites of like dildos, buttplugs and actual dilators? The thread got deleted but it was up for a while and the pic was a wojak jonathani wonder if someone for some reason has it screenshotted and saved
>>566831440But what about dem sharts?
>>566823612The only good companion I found was the giant wasp, and only because it's really fast and doesn't really do anything but follow you so it makes a great aurabot.
Daily reminder that Diablo 4 won
>>566831984what, do you count breaths as well? give the big guy a break
>>566831225>>566831225>D4 won.game has a memory leak for 1+ years now
>>566832082so does its players
>>566832178lmao
Genuinely no idea what to start with. I wanna try all the new uniques, but you can't exactly start that which is shit from an ass. I know I should just wait for patchnotes, but I'm fucking bored so I wanna brew.
>>566831762They went down by 33 poops yesterday
i just gambled these, is there any glory builds?
can't wait to play poe2 brosI'm going to level to 95 playing the same very cool and not boring skills I've been playing for almost 2 years now and then I'm going to start slowly killing bosses and then a unique will drop that requires level 85 and then reroll using the same skills I've been playing for almost 2 years now and then I will finally equip the new interesting unique item with a built in unique skill that was literally impossible to be added as a new skill gem only to realise how dogshit the game play is and then obviously quit the game.man, what a tangent.
>>566832483It's shite, at least 25% aspd is great.
>>566832045>469,900 more breaths until league launch
>>566832657so every poe 1 and 2 league in a nutshell, difference between 1 and 2 is that 1 is older and has a few more choices
>>566832803>a few more choicesI really don't understand why poe2 players feel the need to embarrass themselves like this.You can just take the L sometimes, it's not the end of the world.
Watched the Spirit Walker videothey showed few times how they melt bosses under 20 seconds. that's against the "vision", which might mean that there was no vision at all(we suppose to lock in and sweat type shit)they showed super "juiced" spear(which is actual garbage)maybe that just mean that get rid of +levels on weapon???
>>566832791>one breath every 3 secondYou might want to go to the doctor for that
>>566832969stop fats shaming
>>566832969he's probably panting like a dog and sweating when taking a shit, checks numbers checks out
>>566826398it's insane that ability got put into the game what the fuck was jon smoking
They should have never added leech to PoE 2Just trivializes every form of recovery
>>566833643You're supposed to temper your weapon before the fight, not during itThe webm is extra retarded because that fight in particular is filled with dead phases where you just jerk off waiting to be able to damage the boss again
>>566826534Completely ignoring the chuddom I fucking hate his fake reactions
>>566823963poe is the only game even remotely close to the game that literally invented the genre. if you're a slowtard who wants "meaningful combat" rollslop it already exists, go play it instead.
>want to play Spirit Walker companions>companion build did 250k dps in the showcase even on a 6link>Twister build did 30x that amount>companion build even got nerfed (Unique boss is no longer possessed by wisps)Why can't GGG let minions be good for once? What the fuck is their problem?
>>566824060>didnt see anyone ever talk about it after the content revealthey were too busy spending 14 days to set up the snaking temple then farming infinite mirrors
>>566819234>using game stats to describe IRL subcategories of playerwhat a fucking dork
>made RF for pohx>made minion zoomancer for ghazzylily build when
>>566834006I mean snaking temple was discovered a couple weeks after the launch of the league
>>566833647They are nerfing it to the ground with 0.5 DOE
>>566833984>even on a 6linka what?
>>566833746Even if the Elon Musk>preparation before battle is something that they're striving for in their game, 3-4 seconds of nothing to get fucking infernal cry combust is not worth it ever.That other guy is right, that skill making into the game alone is enough to make you question if every good design decision in both games was due to pure luck.
>>566834095you can already play as a man
>>566834095campaign layout fixes are for her
>>566834095Bean tub build when?
>>566834238Well the current version is 12 empowered attacks, each getting 363% base damage at lvl 20. Thats 4356% free damage before every boss fight, its honestly not a bad skill at all if you view it as a single target ascendancy point only
>>566826635First of all Shield Wall isn't even a mace skill, if you had to actually play maces you'd pull your hair out. Second of all, if they take out said shield wall don't even bother starting warrior. Third of all, does Shield Wall even do intended damage or is it unintended and they left it in anyway? Because Resonating Shield has similar numbers and it does nowhere near as much.
>>566834286
>>566834229a skill with 5 supports linked to it?
>>566821104It's a big incestuous circlejerk. They need new content but just copy/riff off each other.
>>5668345455 supports linked together makes that a 5 link, no?
>>566834672Alkaizer said hollow palm is dogshit
>>566834238your mindset is that stuff you don't want to play being in the game = bad game. as if game design was a limited resource ggg have to spend carefully. ggg clearly just want to think up as much different mechanics as possible. being different from everything else is the point, you personally being interested is irrelevant. tl; dr: retard.
>>566819234After Q&A I understood so much about how they want Poe 2 to be, and this dude is such a fucking idiot. Jonathan shared some statistics and the average player still takes a while to clear the map and defeat the bosses, so they are making 0.5 with these people in mind. I’m talking about difference in minutes between the average tranny streamer and average actual player. They still give players the freedom to create crazy builds, but they balance the game for casual players. Everything from the early stages right up to the pinnacle bosses has been designed with a slow-build playthrough in mind. They expect the average player to pick a game, create their own build, reach the T15 maps and defeat all the bosses.
>my eceleb said...Absolute state of poo2 cattle
>>566825384Why?
>>5668347651 (skill) gem > 2nd (support) gem > 3rd (support) gem > 4th (support) gem > 5th (support) gem > 6th (support) gem
Yo i forgot, does poe2 has diamonds that activate keystones that are not connected to your tree?
>>566825360Yeah. It's a lot of busywork/ai-work. It's something you would *maybe* do in layers over time. But all this shit at once is completely retarded. Should have been designed differently.
>>566835191but this is poe 2, where the orb clearly states 5 support gem sockets, calling it a 6 link out of habbit then i presume
>>566835297Yes, it was added last patchhttps://poe2db.tw/us/Flesh_Crucible
>>566835434>https://poe2db.tw/us/Flesh_CrucibleThanx a lot senpai
>>566835173it's basically like a free headhunter, it's hard to go wrong
>>566835620How clunky is that skill now? I know its not a free headhunter because you have to do some stupid manual animation on the rares, but im pretty sure they did some improvement on it since release?
>>566834857What about me and 99.9% of players? Game design IS a limited resource they have to spend carefully, did you see them rework it after it flopped? They constantly speak oh we didn't have time to do X this patch. Jonathan's first sentence in the Q&A was about how they didn't have time to add swords.Your mistake is that something novel = automatically good, it can still be fucking retarded. And if 999/1000 players immediately think so and you don't have one person in your team that will tell you that you're doing something wrong. And for the record it's not something different that they thought up now, it's literally a warcry from PoE1 with extra steps.
>>566833842I used to check his clips sometimes because they were sometimes aight, but his fucking eyes all over the fucking place. Checking in with his managers, mods, chat, and whtever he is streaming on his main screen. Then i realized dude was just a tweaker making faces for all the manchildren. Haven't looked back since.
>>566835386you link 5 support gems with 1 skill gem, 5+1=6. even a poe1 player should be able to follow that math.
>>566835386you're not including the skill itself. 1 skill plus 5 supports is still a 6 link.
>>566824202I'm not necessarily opposed to poe2 being more skill intensive and having more combat nuance. However I don't think thr combat is very engaging. It's just sort of slow motion moba like but not many split second decisions or utility actions are being made. Problem being most skills are too slow to be used so you don't use more than one or two per pack
>>566835702it lasts a good while so it's not a big time sink
>>566825283Yes but the int side of the game fucking sucks so int players still hate it
>>566835717it really just seems like a meme that they thought was funny for a second and didn't think about it past that. >he is a blacksmith lol give him an anvil!
Are the lily tranny rumors true? I'm very suspicious because of the name. Trannies love being lilly, lillian, lillith, and shit like that
>looking to upgrade PC for 1.0 release for POE2>check PC benchmarks>9850x3d >RTX 5090>endgame mapping>1% low>35 FPSThat is a fucking embarrassing when the fuck should i upgrade my shitbox war machine for something that can last years and run poe?
>>566835717Its 5% for smith of kitavas, not 0,1%, you fucking retard
>>566823237You don't get shit for equipment by killing monsters. In act 1 of D2 you were pretty much guaranteed at least one set item and one unique. I'm at act 3 with multiple characters and I've gotten 3 uniques, 2 of which were a dupe for the same shitty fart armor, and a helmet that makes it so I can't roll
>>566836198No she's a biological woman
>>566836198Yes he's a biological man
>>566836269you should wait for the 60xx series, at least to see if they add more ram.
>>566836341Many are saying this
>>566836413Nobody is saying this
poo of excrement 2?NAUSEATING colorUNHOLY stink!AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!
>>566835717It’s a decent skill. Community is just a bunch of fags and refuses to use anything out of the ordinary, let alone melee.
>>566836614do you ever get tired about thinking about literal shit
>>566832907They got clowned on last reveal for the druid demo doing zdps, so they listened to the streamers and content creators and are now marketing a game for BLASTINI thought poe2 was supposed to be the counterresponse to blastin gameplay, but i'm no influencer.
>>566836269>GTX1650>Cheap AMD CPU from the bargain bin>endgame mapping>40 FPS
>>566836418isnt fps for poe/poe2 more cpu bound than gpu? like for example if i wanted more you would get a better cpu than gpu if you had the choice?>>566836759i think if you had the same mapping situation as the benchmark had your system would be much lower i should know ive been holding off from upgrading for years now because nothing really tempted me to do so but im really into poe over any game nowadays which is whats pushing me to upgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjmv_6w0VQ
do you guys think streamers leveling characters every day until league launch are actually getting paid by ggg?there's no way right? but why do they keep leveling new characters every day? this confuses me so much.it's not like they like and/or enjoy poe2 since they quit immediately after the hype is gone, so what the fuck is going on?
>>566837065maybe put more question marks in your post next time
>>566836269just play on 1080p and you don't need a top-end PC>b-but muh meme triple monitor 4k setup!you don't need that
>>566837065They're riding the hype and hyping their viewers. They have to create content in some form all the time. So they're doing it for the views, striking the iron while hot.Some of them prolly are shills.
>>566836754>I thought poe2 was supposed to be the counterresponse to blastin gameplaythey quickly realized NOBODY actually wants slow and methodical gameplay
>>566837065testing builds in the campaign prior to see what will be fun for the league, because im doing the same thing with disciple of verashta >>566837206whats your specs do you run at 1080p? 9850x3d 32gb ram 5070ti is what im looking atm for 1.0 or as the other anon said the 6k RTX but thats next year and fuck knows how shitty of an upgrade that is to now
>>566837065I want to do it aswell but im just gonna burn myself out. I always level like 5 characters before every league start
>>566836968Well, my endgame mapping doesn't look like that, and thank god. What amuses me most is that even a third of all those attacks would be enough, builds like this are optimised to a degree that the game simply can't match in difficulty.
>>566836968>~65W CPU green initiative compliant goodest boy>~110W CPU ecological terrorist incel demon
>>566837368Why t est a build when EVERYTHING is getting changed?
>>566837309>>566837368>>566837369yeah but that guy said on discord that all zones are changed and that some campaign maps have now changed the order in which you gain access to them not to mention the fact that we have no patch notes so many skills will change making some better or worse than others so I don't get what they're practicing.for example, right now nades are super strong to level right? but what if they get gutted and it takes forever to kill something with them and instead bolts become strong af.bolts have a completely different play style than nades no? so what's the fucking point.
>>566835620It used to be unplayable with the long ass animation and 20 second base duration. I assume something has changed
>>566837497>~65W CPU green initiative compliant goodest boy>~110W CPU ecological terrorist incel demonMy fucking laptop's CPU caps at 140W. 65W is tablet tier.
>>566837820Unless theyre fundamentally changing the game that GGG employee is just overexaggerating way too muchHe said they are adding layout hints and redoing some connections between zones. Its not like theres zero crossover between campaign skill pre 0.5 and post 0.5
>>566837458Well yeah its late endgame the point is for me is i wanted to look at the most rainbow vomit benchmark with the top end of PC's to see what a future with the game would be like, if a 5090 9850x3d struggles to run it now is it worth upgrading is my point with GGG adding more juicing to POE2 in the future as all ARPGs do>>566837746to see whats fun, even with nerfs you can still scale builds to infinite damage it just takes longer and more jewels >>566837820i dont know about streamers im not really optimising speedrunning and what nukes shit im just seeing if i enjoy a build in the campaign currently that im going to run it for weeks to months in the endgame thats all im doing
>>566837820>>566837065What else are they gonna do?>Stream PoE1/2 leveling practice>Get your regular viewers and those who are hyped for the exapnsionAs opposed to what? They could stream like Arc Raiders or something? The most they could do is possibly play D4 since the expansion released, otherwise ARPG content creators are just waiting for PoE2.
>>566837935well from the reveal video you can see for example that the zone where the tools are is completely different, with a big ass road in it, it looks so goofy and strange. the mastodon badlands look unchanged just with those marks in the ground for the passage but seeing as how different maps can become I just don't see the point in practicing something that's going to be easier to play.they're doing all these sweeping changes specifically to make going through the campaign easier so again, not sure what is this "practice" for.I also kinda of lol'd at the hunting ground changes, like what are those for? you just hug a wall and keep going and you'll reach all the interest points except the ritual site which gives you a lvl 4 skill gem that you don't really need.
>>566838367Speedrunning campaign is much more than just knowing the layouts. Id say thats only half of it. Getting a feel for how many levels you need, what gear you need, whether you need to do optional side content for the ring, or a support gem or whatever, knowing what skill gems and support gems you're engraving, when to check shops, so on and so on
>>566838321>ARPG content creatorsHow stupid do you have to be to base your entire career around a niche genre of seasonal video games?
>>566838542>Getting a feel for how many levels you need, what gear you need, whether you need to do optional side content for the ring, or a support gem or whatever, knowing what skill gems and support gems you're engraving, when to check shops, so on and so ondoesn't all of this hinge on the skill/s you're using? no patch notes makes everything we "test" or "practice" irrelevant.I guess you could practice leveling minions which we know are going to be good but everything else is a mystery.
>>566833984would it kill you to have an original thought, or do you have to regurgitate what fubgun told you and not even do it correctly? (it wasn't 250k dps, it was a 250k with one hit, so it's less than 250k DPS)Also I'm sure minions will do just fine when built properly, people are perpetually bitching about minions being too weak, and then somehow I'm making thousands of divs selling shitty +2 sceptres.
>>566838832Hence why i said unless they fundamentally change the game, its just bs overexaggeration
maybe it's time to treat poe2 as another zoom zoom game there's no slow and methodical gameplay anymore
>>566839208>anymoreit's been a zoomslop game since launch
>>566825710i feel bad for count gaynerd. he's the only (living) act boss that we actually kill, and it was all because some manipulative whore cucked him and drove him mad.
>>566839208>anymoredid it ever?
>>566839208slow and methodical is for first time players.
>>566839208didnt mark say ggg was adding some form of buffing a bunch of rares with loot drops and minimising pack size i presumed it would be in the new atlas tree but there was no mention of it in the Q&A or the livestream
>slog past Jamonra (for free) during offseason instead of during the season and actually progressing without wasting your time
>>566839208It's slow and methodical on league launch.
>>566839891>>566839208Your stormweaver spark sis?
What am I in for?
whats the state of the game(s) in current year? t. hasnt played since BFR days
>>566839339Also best fight, best music, best voice acting
>>566840149poe1 - past its prime, so much powercreep Mageblood is now considered a bad beltpoe2 - has no identity, doesn't know what it wants to be
>>566840265is it worth playing either?
>>566840129Estrogen.
>>566840265>Mageblood is now considered a bad belt
Ritualist Negative rarity (only ascendancy that can reach -100% negative rarity)Ritualist farm (rarity doesnt impact ritual favour)We eating good.
>>566840375all poorfags who can't afford a BiS shrine belt
they bloated poe2 with so much shitgoodbye trying to learn the game
>>566840426>no good, cheap starter builds>needs to survive ritual
>>566840438>mageblood is no longer bis for 99% of builds that means its le badscreams will most definitely get twwt treatment
>>566839208literally only act 1 ever was slow and methodical
>>566839968compared to poe1, poe2 leaguestart is slower on all classes. that was the only goal, to be slower than poe2.
No ARPG ever is slow and methodical. You're asking for an impossible play pattern for the genre.
>>566840726>>no good, cheap starter buildsWhat are you talking about, theres plenty of good spear and bow league starters you can do>b-but ritualist doesnt give you damageAn entire fucking ring and 25% bonus on all your rings and amuelt doesnt give you damage?!
>>566839424Slog is outFun is inJonathan is out w/ 1.0Neon is here to JUST MAKE THINGS FUNHope you're ready for him to cave on every goddamn thing and bow to 10c completely.
>>566839424I think you're referring to monster effectiveness. no reason why it wouldn't still be a thing.
>>566837358Lots of people wqnted that. They played 0.1 and then fucked off to wait for 1.0 (or swords). It's mazed tards that thinks arpg is a narrow definition all about blastin.
>>566841128Jonathan said in an interview that they won't put things that add difficulty in the Atlas tree since the expectation is that players are supposed to pick every node. If you're lucky you might get one of the multi-choice notables adding it.
>>566840426>We eating good.d4 vernacular used by rob from the block. way to expose yourself ritualist nigger, now I understand why you're so retarded, you're a d4fag.
>>566841221arpgs are all about blastin. they have to be, it's the nature of rng. to remove the blasting you have to remove the rng, you remove the rng you end up with shit.
I loved 0.1-0.3The slow start 1st time campaign was epicBut man did they drop the ship with endgame going all the way back to poe1 zoom zoom
>>566840676dumb ESL jeet
>>566841369i don't think a d4fag would be hyping up neg rarity farming
>>566841694sir are you ok?? fucking retard
I think it might be a really good idea to skip this league. The new endgame is certainly going to have a bunch of obnoxious kinks for them to work out, and if i wait until 1.0 they’ll hopefully have things working better and I’ll be less fatigued from last league. Or it will still just suck as always who knows.
>>566841528endgame zoom is fine, endgame oneshotting bosses is not
>>566841431The objectively best ARPGs aren't about blasting.PoE 1 became a laughingstock and PoE 2 tried to revert that but failed miserably.
HOLYRITUALISTS LOGINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHBsMyCJHSY&pp=ygUNcG9lIHJpdHVhbGlzdA%3D%3D
>>566841845to the surprise of nobody, ritualist wins AGAIN
>>566841805Not the ridiculous poe1 zoom, 0.1-0.3 endgame was fine but reddit complained now ewe're back to oneshotting bosses and 500000 packs
>>566840426i do like the whole negative rarity thing in poe2 normal viper caps and sapphire rings dropping in campaign as tinks is kino
>>566840726What's wrong with crossbows? E.g. aeroplane.Also people built pretty unkillable AFK blood barrier ritualists for simu, I'm sure ritual is easy peasy in comparison.
>>566841942Nerfed in 0.5
>>566842057What's nerfed?
>>566841845Spiral Volley spam looks so stupid
>>566841845ChadTorak
>>566842114Everything.
>>566840726this reminds me, with the nerfs the ritual pinnacle drops are going to be absurdly rare because all the glass cannon builds wont survive 5 bosses in a circle
>>566841845I don't understand something about poo 2.Ok so in poo 2 your skills are the gems in your gear so the game naturally favors using one or two skills in a multilink plus your auras/heralds/occasional defensive.In poo 2 there's no reason not to fill all the slots with skills, the game implicitly tells you to use many skills.Yet most videos I see are poo 1-tier 2 button blasting with half of the skill bar or more empty.Even if you're using one boom boom skill poo 1 style, why not fill the rest of the slots with utility/defense/movement?Do poo players just enjoy playing lobotomized builds?
>>566841845>no 0.5 patch notesits so stpuid to watch endgame guides now
>>566842489Not reading your post since you said poo2
>>566841826what are the objectively best arpgs if not d2 and poe? both blasting games, d2 started it, poe perfected it.
>>566842489>utility/defense/movement?No such things in Poo2
>>566842739>1.10+ hammerdin and en*gma are the entirety of d2even at that level d2 is multiple times slower than poe
>>566841528too many multiplicative damage sources instead of flat damage sources
>>566842316That's good, ritualist's shitty CB node only gets better the worse characters are.
d2 is trash btw
>>566842885yes but the the endgame loop was "go fast to kill things that drop upgrades so you can go faster to kill more things that drop upgrades"ggg just took that formula, took the cow level and added some more tilesets and the rest is history.
>>566843081>ggg just took that formula, took the cow level and added some more tilesets and the rest is history.That was an accident. They fought tooth and nail to make players slower, getting oneshot, nerfing fun.
>>566843081in d2 you still engage with content and bosses don't fold the moment you look at them thoughthe most overpowered builds are like newborn babies compared to the absurdiity of poe
>>566819748Those are legally bought views from Youtube ads. Someone at GGG actually boughted ~8 million ad views thinking PoE 1 was an alive game and that shilling it would drive up player numbers LMAOOOOOO!!!PoE 2 won bigliest. PoE 1 is in the ground. At Exilecon they're announcing PoE 1 end of service and setting a timeline for the release of PoE mobile which will be GGG's #2 priority going forward.
>>566841786Nah, that's a good idea. Almost wish i skipped 0.4 desu. I just have literally nothing else to play rn. Nothing to hold my attention, ya know?But 0.5 is a good one to skip, sets you up to enjoy 1.0's finished campaign and the endgame as a complete set w/ a fresh attitude.
>>566843212every single nerf was great except one, removing CD on shield charge and making it hit like a wet noodle
>>566843058whoops meant to post this in the genshin impact general
>>566843212>nerfing funMost fun I had in poe 1 was during the sacrifice of vaal era or before.>any meme build can clear the game>not too slow, not too fast>dangerous but not blatant offscreen oneshots>don't need to poopsock minmax rares of life+resistance
am i retarded if i just play Monk and Druid every league? I've never even tried most other archetypes like bows and I don't think I want to.
>>566842489Cuz you're watching poo1 players.
>>566843492Your test levels are simply too high.
How come PoE 2 content creators are so much more well adjusted mentally and normal compared to the PoE 1 content creators?
NOBODY WANTS "MEANINGFUL COMBAT" AKA BULLET SPONGE BOSSES WITH INVULNERABLE PHASES THAT MAKE YOU PRACTICE YOUR DANCE ROUTINES. NOBODY. STOP PRETENDING THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
Does poe2 have a spin to win skill yet?
>>566843585
>>566842830I saw a bunch of such skills when I played though? Sure maybe they're not something you use often but it's it better to have the open instead of not having it? I don't comprehend the mindset of purposely castrating your character.>>566843494It feels like poo 1 just lobotomized a whole generation.
>>566843614I want bullet sponge bosses until you're very fucking geared, and not people killing uber arbiter naked very quickly.
>>566843614>nobodyI do not think that means what tou think it means>invuln phasesThose are gay and need to go.
How come people only play this game during patches, isn't it fun outside of 2 weeks when a patch releases?
ahem ahem to all ritualist shillshttps://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/tier-listthey have spoked>Rings nodes isn't great for the start as it requires gear. Becomes top-tier late game with good gear, but not good for League Start. Monster mods are too much RP for fubgun.
>>566843614I don't want to play spastic ballet and I don't want cheap oneshots either.I also don't want having 0.1% of the builds just instantly delete bosses while the remaining 99.9% constantly struggles to survive or deal enough damage.Surely such industry titans with over a decade of experience can create combat which doesn't rest on one of the extremes only.
>>566843674Why have a bunch of skills that dont add much when 1 or 2 skills will do the job, and faster?Yeah poo1 was a product of listening to whiny bitches who think they're tough because they know how to operate a spreadsheet.
>>566843585Cutedog is literally the only mentally stable ARPG player and he hates PoE 2.
>>566843648He was right about the tourists.
>>566843457the loot filter is probably the biggest contributing factor to the zoom.
>>566843870>oracle>F-tierlobotomized
>>566844023Shame he's such a classic midwit.>>566844049Following premade loot filters is the problem. Just like following build guides or being told anything without thi king for yourself.
>>566843829No
>>566843873They have like 30 people working on a game with an infinite amount of variables. Just don't play OP shit if you want to trivialize the game and stop being jealous of streamers because it's a single-player game.
>>566843870that was the 0.4 list>The only potential for Oracles is that it's actually worse than what you expect. This is the worst Ascendancy I've ever seen (-Ruetoo)kek
Now that PoE 2 will literally have in-game handholds that gear your character and select all your skills for you with no interaction can we finally stop pretending that PoE 2 is a high skill game?
>>566844310>Just don't play OP shit if you don't* want to trivialize the game
>>566844313timmy means victory
>>566844371nobody has earnestly thought that PoE2 is high skill
>>566841346>if you're luckyit's stuff anyone can add retard. which is exactly what "the atlas tree having difficulty on it" means.
>>566844475poo2 shills told me to get gud when I told them the game is shit and will take years to fix and release at launch
>>566844475Fubgun (the world's biggest PoE streamer and challenger level MOBA player) has said repeatedly that PoE 2 has the highest skillcap of any ARPG and one of the highest skillcaps of any game period.
>>566844371>builds>skill
>>566844753>one of the highest skillcaps of any game period.there's no fucking way he said this
>>566844753It's not exactly noita, sadly
>>566836482Nobody is saying this>>566836583Nobody is saying this
>>566840726I cruised through the campaign on ritualist with LALR. This was before the nerfs though
>>566837065Guythatdies definitely has that vibe. He sounds nz so is close in proximity to their studio. Wouldn't put it past ggg to promote a racer on the scene to replace ben who hates the game
can you play witch as spellcaster like spark? she is cuter with a better voice than sorc
>>566845518>Guythatdies definitely has that vibeHe has fucking "members only" vids kek, he's simply the only guy making competent leveling guides and he struck gold.Most of the other professional youtuber types can't compete because they're shit at the game.>Wouldn't put it past ggg to promote a racer on the scene to replace ben who hates the gameThat's because you're genuinely delusional and don't understand that your emotional investment in streamers and GGG's financial investment in marketing are two different worlds. GGG couldn't give less of a shit who the current "best player" is or whether he's toxic. They're only casting a broad net by sponsoring streamers who normally don't play POE, to pull in audiences from other games, instead of reinforcing existing POE streamers.
>>566845763Bloodmage/abyssal lich are arguably better casters than sorceress but it depends what you're doing. Ultimately you definitely can.>with a better voice I absolutely hate POE2 witch voice to the point I avoid playing her, but good for you I guess, good that at least someone likes it. I like her bratty edgy lines but the voice is just grating to me.
>>566844753https://www.twitch.tv/redviles/clip/IntelligentFitGooseCharlietheUnicorn-dRu0CppIMtRyECS9
>>566842489Because most of the time you can't. There are very limited options and many restrictions (gem slots, attributes, spirit, weapon slots)For starters, not all builds have many open gem slots. Case study: ice shot snipe build. Out of 9 slots:1. Ice shot (clear)2. Herald of ice (clear)3. Snipe (bossing)4. Barrage (bossing)5. Frozen salvo / ice tipped - clear/bossing freeze helpers6. Frozen mark7. Wind dancer8. Second spirit gem (probably ghost dance)9. Third spirit gemThen, movement skills as in poe1 don't exist here. None. - Leap slam - not a movement skill (it's slower than walking), requires weapon swap - Shield charge - shit, requires weapon swap, cooldown gated - Blink - will rape you on spirit and int requirements. Cooldown gated - Pounce - the best "movement" the game has, and many actually use it, but it requires weapon swap AND is cooldown gatedDefense skills don't exist. There are couple spirit gems, but yeah - spirit and attribute requirementsUtility - mostly damage utility like barrage, or banners ARE used where applicable
>>566840426What's so good about negative rarity and why is it so easy for ritualist to get?
>>566845976>this guy completely shitstomps poe1 and poe2arpgkeks...
>>566844753Yeah, no shit he's a retard
>>566842435Early on yeah maybe, later you just oneshot all of them
>>566846207+1 rings and ring buffnegative rarity makes more white bases drop, which means more exceptional bases, which means more cash money.
>>566844091>>566844323He's wrong, but high play rate does not mean good design
>>566841528don't worry, 0.5 is the biggest nerf league in ggg history>source: i made it up
>>566846445Not just exceptional bases. Thats the jackpot drops but regualr white bases ilvl 82+ are quite valuable too, especially if you bother slamming them with perfect augs and transmutes and get some sweet modifiers someoen can continue crafting on>>566846207What other anon forgot to mention is you use ventors gambles, they can go down to -25% negative rarity, and +6% rarity on the implicit, so -19% per ringWith a mid roll ingenuity (25% both rings) and buff from ascendancy (25%) that means each ventors gives you -19*1,5 = 28% negatve rarity each, so 3x rings = -84% raritySince 0.2 everyone has by default +100% rarity, so when you krangle the ventors and ingenuity you should hopefully eventually reach -100% negative rarity, at which point basicall all equipment items you drop are white bases
Godathan won
>>566846207It's not easy, people bitch about rarity (when not a single mechanic actually scales off it, only generic ground drops do), but negaratity is actually AIDS to setup, especially for attack builds who lose a lot from using ventors
>>566846671Oracle bottom nodes are great design, and the crit node is at least good design (while being absurdly powerful).The curse of the other nodes is that they have to compete with some of the best ascendancy nodes in the game. The players will always take a COMFORTABLE, ultrapowerful asset for the passive tree that scales forever, over a clunky gimmick that works conditionally and requires uncomfortable extra input.
>>566846853Many are saying this
>>566847146>The players will always take a COMFORTABLE, ultrapowerful asset for the passive tree that scales forever, over a clunky gimmick that works conditionally and requires uncomfortable extra input.i mean yead, idd, but what does GGG are hoping for CONTINUING introducing gimmick nodes
>>566847339They might hit a fun one eventually. The SW storms and Kitava chest thing are alright gimmick nodes I guess. People play with the shaman apocalypse thing too.
>>566847146I wouldnt call either top row or bottom node insanely powerful. They're good but they're not gamebreakingThe issue with the middle nodes are its either extra buttons (always unpopular on any ascendancy), totem node when they made totems absurdly shit, and then the MoM node which is shit aswell
>>566847339Gimmicks are fun, they can always tweak numbers.
>>566846778>show a "juiced" spear in a showcase>everyone says it's shit>turns out everything got so nerfed it's actually a good spear
>>566847635If you put a cooldown on a gimmick it will never be popular or widely used. I mean sure they can remain in the game as a fun power fantasy but it will never be used to any serious extent
0.5 is going to be fun!
>>566847789nobody is saying this
0.1 was the best, game was actually hard and felt like a game.
>>566847851I don't need approval from others
>>566847498>I wouldnt call either top row or bottom node insanely powerfulWell you can call them whatever you want, they're objectively numerically remarkable nodes that produce huge defense/offense outcomes. I didn't call them gamebreaking, and you can say i exaggerated by calling them "insanely powerful", but looking over other Oracle nodes and various nodes of other ascendancies makes that phrase more grounded in reality.
>>566847715There are multiple skills with cooldowns that are widely used right now. But also even if it's not super strong, what's the issue? They shouldn't design the game around div/hr, they should make things fun. As long as it's not pathetically weak, it's fine.
>>566847652>spear has a2-level flat cold damage (wasted prefix)>this nigga thinks it has to do with nerfs
Act 1 0.1 was the most fun I had with poe2 so far
>>566848629I thought the 0.1 campaign was sweet with how challenging it could be (I actually had to learn Geonor to beat him) but the end game was so fucking awful.
lol
>>566848712By the end of act 3 it started getting too easy for me
someone post that poe comic with the guy with his legs wide open
>>566849050>Clefable of all thingsCould've picked Nidoking instead
I will be baited by SW.
>>566848712its only awful if you cheat and use abilities that will be nerfed by 1.0
Reminder that Kelly is a guy
>>566849321sith warrior?
>>5668479840.1 was a gamechanger (outside of broken af shit like arrows and heraldchaining and stat stacking).It had a solid base that just needed followthrough.0.5 is just changing the game back to poo1 completely. They have yellow paint to guide you through campaign and paywalled build guides to do all your thinking for you. Even filling out your item search filter will be solved before you ever log in.Cookieshitter2
>>566849995>paywalledwhat?
>>566849058>>566848629Act 1 clearly had the most design time given to it. Act 3 was as far as they got before running out of money and having to sell keys to keep 10c happy.Everything after was just poe1 tacked on but le different :^)
>>566849995If you want a mechanically challenging game go play dark souls or some shitWhy are you faggots always trying to subvert what ARPGs are about
>>566849995>paywalled build guides
>>566850127Sign up to my patre9n for special supporter features!Content creators might show you a build on a video. But to get them to write out a build guide, they'll want to get paid. And there are lots of retards willing to throw out a buck or 50 just to avoid any brain thoughts.
>>566849995This is why we should kill tourists on sight.
>>566850372Are those paywalled builds in the room with us right now?
>>566849995Are you the same guy who was talking about a surge of refunds upon 1.0? You need to go back.
>>566849995>>566850372dude is getting upset by situations he's concocted in his head lmao
>>566842489>utility, defense, movementThere are no skills in those categories lil gup
>>566850372It is the exactly same situation as paid porn.Free ones are there, freely available.Free ones are not worse and often better than paid.
>>566849995Yeah, GGG already said that if people wanted to monetize or have people pay for build guides that it was a good idea. They also said they might put up some of their own in the shop that you can buy with points.
>>566850526GuyThatDies channel has paywalled guides.
>>566851021He's just that retarded
>you should provide free labour for me bro you arent allowed to make money!!!Prolly turd worlder that pirates every game he owns
>>566846178>>566842489Unlike PoE1 you can't put 4 auras in a 4L everything takes a slot no matter the importance.
>>566851021>discount ZizeranReally? You need his guides THAT much?
>>566851387>free labourWhat labour?
>>566851452Zizaran has never won a race in his life.I don't need guides and would not pay for them no matter how good they were, and I'm not the guy you were responding to, but the paywalled guide thing is the reality now, because one of the top racers is putting them out, and not some washed up gamer variety streamer.
Just buy the guide and refund the purchase
>>566851387I'm reclining my chair on this very japanese post
>>566849995Aren't the builds just json files? It'd be super easy for someone to leak it without getting caught, paywalls won't do shit lol.
If you honestly and unironically watch sirdiabetus, troglodyte orsecret dick william, you should kill yourself.
>>566852703yea we should watch lily and tyty instead
>>566845825And guy that dies just so happens to be a kiwi? And angormus has that normie "trans-ally" appeal?Not buying it
i only watch carn
>>566852773did i fucking stutter?
I only watch quin
>>566851782And?Who gives a fuck if you won the race? You were fast, you played meta build, CON-FUCKING-GRATULATIONS! You just know how to be fast.Nobody cares what builds Ben makes. Tytys tier list is a meme. That dude that showed jacked up on Exilecon to win race? Doesn't even make builds.Two different skillsets. Paid builds are reality because you abused-housewifes of tourist path of exile players are spineless. Spineless noodle armed fucks that can't stand up to anything. You are scared of confrontation even in 0 harm scenarios like internet fights.5 years ago it was laughed at, now with your arrival is widely accepted and normalCurious WHY?!
We only watch fubgod here
I'm a ds_lily chad
Who the fuck are any of these people
>>566852860>And guy that dies just so happens to be a kiwi?I don't even know that he is, he sounds like like an ESL to me.>And angormus has that normie "trans-ally" appeal?Half the POE1 streamers are troons or femboys or fags.>>566852986>You were fast, you played meta build, CON-FUCKING-GRATULATIONS! You just know how to be fast.And Zizaran doesn't.>Nobody cares what builds Ben makesEveryone follows Ben_ in POE1 if they want good results. Copying Ben_ is your easiest path to 7/7 in HCSSF.
>>566853292ds_lily is our queen
>>566852986>widely accepted and normaluh, no? Also what the fuck do you want anyone to do about one or two people putting out paid guides? Spam nigger on their videos like some schizo?Big internet tough guy confronting the tyrannical content creators kek.
>>566852986>she pays for builds from anyone other than FastAFshiggity mcfuggin diggity
>>566853541that's a man
why is the poe community full of trannies, browns and homosexualsnot a normal (white male) in this fucking cursed community
>>566852986>Curious WHY?!I didn't read your post, but yes
>>566853738because all the white men busy with d4
y'all niggas be paying for guides icant
>2026>im forgotten>despite consistently making the most OP broken builds in both games
>>566853738White men don't play video games and instead just consume cuckoldry pornography.
>>566853805TRVKE
>>566853738>not a normal (white male) in this fucking cursed communityyou can just get on grindr gupta
>>566853831>>despite consistently making the most OP broken builds in both games*the most vonculuted expensive
>>566853738Gacha games are played by the mentally ill
>>566853738Conner is normal. Thats why he's /ourguy/
>>566854138that guy looks mentally challenged, he is not white
>>566843940>Open Cutedog Stream>He's talking about eating his dogs pussy outThere is no such thing as a mentally stable "Asian American".
>>566854868brown
>>566853831>*stealing builds from korea
What will lily cosplay as for 0.5?
>>566855496His discord crew scrapes Korean forums for these builds and just relays them over
Why can't I just bind a sprint key this constantly rolling in order to sprint looks so stupid.For the record I like the sprint mechanic, but having it on dodge roll is strange.
>>566856332Because consolebabbies need to be catered to.>But why not let PC-That'd be an unfair advantage now. Just git gud or something
>>566846671>>566847146imo the problem, Oracle clearly has good nodes, but it's kind of a problem that everything else is too conditional or kind of worthless. Even the crit nodes have questionable value outside of cast on crit or if you run a map with high enemy crit. It beats the hell out of Shaman but that's because Shaman is a meme-tier hybrid ascendancy with good defensive nodes
>>566848034>as long as it's not pathetically weakThat's the problem, even if something doesn't seem weak the risk of losing your map/activity and the absolute girth of the div/hr band means that it's going to feel weak because someone (like Fubgun) is going to have an RMT'd superbow and be farming up like 100 div/hour clearing a map per minute
>>566856904>means that it's going to feel weak because someone (like Fubgun)Or, I can simply evaluate my own experience instead of comparing it to someone else's. I don't need someone else to tell me that a skill feels bad to use or requires too many conditions, I can figure that out for myself. If I clear a boss in 2 seconds while someone else clears it in 0.2 seconds, does that mean I should feel weak because I'm 10 times slower?
>>566856703Shaman is insanely strong tho, the adaptations nodes are like the second best tankyness nodes in the game only behind smith of kitava max res nodes, and even then i feel liek because of the 15% PDR it might be even stronger than thatTheres just no need to be tanky currently. The spirit per empty charm node and bonded modifiers are generically pretty strong aswell, as is the pre-apocalypse nodeI think its really strong, its just that the bear is pretty meh after league start
>>566857347Playing trade is just that type of experience anon. Great for you if you can divorce yourself from the div/hr grind and enjoy doing things your own way, but also builds that are mechanically worse or more convoluted will also struggle hard into the super lategame and juicing. Again though, great for you if you can ignore this aspect of the game. I wish I could do ssf entirely but SSF feels like a huge hassle in this game
>>566857701SSF is just boring. I wouldnt play PoE if there wasnt a trade economy
>>566857393I feel like Shaman comes with no good offensive benefits though, and defensive ascendancies have to compare to Smith and Lich which are both stacked
>>566856703>Shaman is a meme-tier hybrid ascendancy with good defensive nodesYou mean shaman is a meme tier hybrid ascendancy with god tier defense nodes. You might as well be immune to elemental damage, and if you take the second adaptation node you're quite good against phys as well. Really they just need to fix up the rage branch, maybe tweak apocalypse, and it'd be good.
one (1) class per year
>>566857393None of those things are strong. An extra 10 health on a rune is nothing. There's like 2 good bonded modifiers, giving up charms in end game is a damage and clear penalty not a good ascendancy and the adaptation shit takes 4 it's it should be 2
>>566857916It doesnt come with good offensive benefits, thats the issue, or mobility issues. But if they ever make a mechanic where defenses matter, or if magically defenses matter in 0.5 with the reworked mechanics, Shaman will quickly jump to S tier
>>566857701Sure I guess, it seems like you understand the problem but refuse to enact the solution for some reason. Do you guys also feel bad if you slept for an extra few hours and missed out on grinding to keep up with the economy? It's a game, not a job.
>>566823198it's the endgame boss for the expedition/runes league soo
If i am trying to gather catalysts for my rings is it better to run 50/100/150 breech?
>>566858140So what if adaptation takes 4, the first 2 points are strong on their own aswell, if you dont want PDR you can skip thatI agree tho bonded are pretty weak. Actually substantially weaker than the the martial artist rune node. For the meta runes that is. We'll have to see what the new runes effects are in 0.5, maybe bonded runes get some loveThe only good charm in this game is rite of passage
>>566858140120 spirit easily makes up for the losses from no rite of passage. Hell, you could even keep it and just get 80 spirit, that's still a significant boost from what people typically have.
I am having so much fucking fun in ssf, its insane (poo2 btw) never in my life i used so much t1 currency, i always traded it or something.In SSF i dont give a shit about divs and just spend like 10 rolling ruby that i couldve purchased for 100 exalts on trade.Super fun experience
spirit walker companion build looks fucking retarded. going full companion nodes will buff your pets, but not you, so you do no damage and then all you do is sit and scratch your nutsack while you let the ai play the game.who the fuck is this for?
>>566859071I hope you finally convince yourself it's fun anon.
>>566859247minion cucks? the entire archetype that has existed in arpgs forever that rely on their minions to do damage for them
>>566858140>An extra 10 health on a rune is nothing. Cool opinion, here are some bonded modifiers you missed thou>Martial Weapon: Gain 8% of Damage as Extra Physical Damage>Helmets: +10% to all Elemental Resistances >Martial Weapon: +1 to Level of all Attack Skills>Wand or Staff: Every Rage also grants 1% increased Spell Damage>Sceptres: 10% increased Skill Speed while Shapeshifted>Sceptres: 40% increased Damage while Shapeshifted>Sceptres: +20% of Armour also applies to Elemental Damage while ShapeshiftedYou dont know shit about subject
>>566853831He never recovered from being mogged by Ben and Snoobae. Ben is forgivable but Snoobae took him out behind the barn and blasted him so hard that he has no credibility left.
weekend just started. what am I going to do now other than watching quin and gooning?
>>566859247*ahem*
>>566859369yeah, but you can make pack tactician and that build has a good split between you actually playing the game and you pets also doing something, so clearly they can make something good/decent. the zoo keeper build they demo'd looked retarded in comparison.
>>566859849develop new fetishes to goon harder while you wait
bros how do we tackle the upcoming ghost shroud removal? life leech is not a thing in poe 2 so whats the play now?
>>566859792How did snoo mog him exactly?
>>566860198sufferes/ev has been too good for too long
>>566860068it's just a different style, gives them the beastmaster fantasy without having to rely entirely on specters. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you and minion cucks are retards, but to me the playstyle looked identical to zealot specters where you just sit back and dodge shit
>>566860198Bro have you seen the corresponding spirit gem for ES/Armour? I honestly dont think ghost dance is too OP but if their baseline is that barkshit spirit gem then ghost dance needs to get gutted to oblivion
>>566860042cool, but as it is you are stuck using either mace or spear, and realistically you probably want to go for giants blood for a big phys 2h to really make use of catha's balance so you are actually stuck using mace attacks. not really much of an improvement.
>>566860403thats not what I wanted to hear. please contribute with constructive solutions.
>>566860594what's stopping you lil nigga?
Yeah all the women classes are megabrickedSeriously, in 0.4 playing hollow palm Amazon was garbage because of how shitty the defences are especially early and for cheap. Now its going to be even worsegg
>>566837065They do get paidThe twitch drop system is a way for ggg to pay the streamersTo get an item the player has to buy it from a streamer by subscribing
>>566860594>and realistically you probably want to go for giants bloodWhat if i told you, you can have big ass two handed weapon without giant bloodLord of the wilds
>>566860198>troons when someone calls them "sir"
>>566858220No doubt about that, I can agree. The problem is that until that's the case Shaman is kind of just there and even worse Druid kind of struggles on damage as it is I feel. Bear sex is alright, but I don't think the rage or hybrid playstyle support is there. Druid generally suffers from a problem of having a lot of nodes actively contributing nothing or the infinitely funny>20% more damage less damage on a tuesday after a blue moon
>>566860068>good split between you actually playing the gameIt's actually just the dogs working for you, you just poop out new ones every now and then but that's hardly different from being a minion fluffer
>Quin still not playing poo2Its over
>>566860594>Giant's Blood>On Huntress>When it's only 20%ish more damage outside of a sexy highroll maceIt's not worth it though
>>566860198Leech is actually pretty strong, it's just there's too much ele conversion. But on something like amazon if you click ele leech, you can only really die to oneshots.>it's gonna be nerfedwe'll see how - they've said they will adjust leech mods and remove leech resistance from white/magic monsters, so for some builds it might be a net win
>>566860198>what no internet does to a community
>>566863150They already explained it in an interview. You only heal from the largest leech you have, and it'll be capped at certain amount of damage so after a point increasing your dps won't increase your healing, you'd need to actually get more leech %.
>>566863491So just like poo1 where its just glorified regen
>>566863491They've explained how, but the numbers matter and we don't know these. If the magnitudes are high enough it may still be good (likely not for spark though)
>>566863967No, it means now small hits suck for leech, so you'd prefer lgoh or other sustain instead. And you can't just slap on a single leech mod somewhere and expect good numbers, you actually need to invest in it to get decent healing.
>>566864129It literally doesnt matter whether its small or big hits, them capping the leech isntances makes it just like poo1, and the only actual leech stat that matters is instant leech
Do they release a video/teaser every 48 hours? because if so, Martial Artist is tomorrow
>>566864334they also have 30+ uniqs to tease with so could be something else
So>insta leech removed, coc removed, es regen nerfed, +levels nerfed >ghost dance nerfed, low investment deflection nerfed, pure evesion is still shitBoth top and right side are not looking very good desu
>>566864479well, I don't think there are any other good uniques in the league for them to showcase lol
>>566864268They are removing insta leech, specifically because it bypasses the cap (what Mark said in qna)
>>566864521They're allegedly buffing deflection. I actually would much rather prefer pure evasion with deflection and not have to bother with ES, but life is so shit in the game that unless runic ward somehow makes it work it might just be having to settled with nerfed ghost dance
>>566864606They can still do that staff and have thumbnail saying>RIGHTEOUS FIRE IS RIGHTEOUSLY BACK
>>566864268No you don't get it anon. If you have 10% leech and do 1 hit of 1000 damage, you'll get 100 life. If you have 10% leech and do 100 simultaneous hits of 10 damage each, you'll now only get 1 life. Instant leech is gone, since it doesn't work with this system.
>>566864521>ghost dance nerfedits not nerfed. the gem is disabled for now.
>>566864702Mark said deflection is to week on high investment and too strong on low, but what entails low or hight investment i don't knowI admit i don't like hybrid builds because of the attribute wrangling, but i don't think even breach 8% life rings will help pure ev.
>>566864702>dude just pay +50% more on gear to get nice mods AND enough deflectioN!!!gengius
ward is going to be abused to fuck
>>566864842that's fucking grim if true lol, i don't think they've said that?
i would start shield wall again, but it's being gaped too lmao
>>566865160You dont need much evasion to feel comfy on this game, especially since they made it have acrobatics by default AND apply to spells. EHP isnt an issue with evasion builds, its max damage taken. Deflection is meant to provide a solution to that. But pure evasion builds can reach, what, 2k life? And then lets say you 100% chance to deflect and 46% suppressed, max hit taken is 3k life. Just pathetic numbers
>>566865486Oh yeah my point is, you dont need to go perfect prefixes or some shit like that. Deflection is a suffix, so just get some nice res + deflection and as high evasion as you can.Well thats the idea atleast, we'll see if they give us enough HP to make deflection worth it
>>566865486>100% chance to deflect not unless they completely rework the formula, current one is asymptotic
All of these talks of nerfs. Anything getting BUFFED?
>>566865771all skills
>>566865771Minion league
>>566865771Campaign layouts. Every campaign map is now a full blown ADVENTURE of its own
>>566865771that was third edict they buffed ALL CLASSES
PoE invented everything (maps, loot explosions, currencies/resources management, etc.) in the modern ARPG world but Diablo4 perfected them
>>566865771buffs are for the feeble minded poe1 babs, the game is too easy that anyone who is upset at nerfs needs to 41% themselves
>>566865486name something that hits for 3k thats not a skill check, ill wait
PLEASE PORT THE CELESTIAL NEBULA HIDEOUT TO POE2 GGG AND UPDATE THE GALAXY FLOOR TEXTURE FOR 0.5
>>566866879my dick
>>566859426Those are all trash
>>566866879Basically everything in juiced content? Once you get some nasty mods a rare will easily hit for 10k+
>>566867253mazed
>>566866879Any rare.
>>566867265we're talking about poe2 not poe1 sir, only speak if you have actually played the game.
The only reason they'd rework leech now is because duelist is in the pipeline and slayer needs overleech so theyre making space for thatIf were lucky we might get swords in 0.5 anyways shadowdropped
>>566867363you realize its easily proved this is not true by opening the game if you have any character in maps, but you clearly dont even play poe2
>>566867886my thoughts exactly, a blood marauder was my prediction for the future since bleeding seems more axe themed and bleed + leech goes hand in handcould also be a gladiator asc
>>566867817So you think people are just dying to slams or what?
>>566868501irrelevant, im just stating the stupidity of thinking a 3k max hit is low
Leaguestartan bildan:>arc/ball lighting/lightning teleport stormweaver >hollow palm technique phys bloodmage >ignite/glory gen/kaom avatar warrior >machine gun mercenary >basic bitch blackflame covenant lich >basic bitch demon form infernalist >wolfpack druid (again) >rake amazon Idk what to do bruhvahs
>>566868919Stormweaver is badhollow palm is mid leaguestart, blood mage is even worse combo wtfidkidkbad damagebad damage but fastbad damagehorrible damage and 0 defenses on melee
>>566868919good luck with your leaguestarter lmao at least you'll have fun hopefully
>>566868779Yeah, people just shoehorned ES into everything for no reason what so ever, lmao dumbass
Reminder that Zaccie designed Kulemak, the best boss in the game and in PoE history ever.
>>566869318yeah because they couldnt dodge 10k slams so they had to cheat (getting removed this patch anyway)
>>566869473He had a very good idea, it just needs another 100 hours of bugfixing, and some stuff needs to be telegraphed better because it's very difficult to read what will actually happen.
>>566869675>he needs to be designed better
peepee of poopoo
>>566869047How about bleed falling thunder bloodmage?
>>566868919Pick something you haven't played that sounds fun
>>566859792I fucking _hate_ SnooBAE85. He's a retarded Boomer cunt. Looks pale and pasty with those fucking 10x glasses.
>>566869571i've heard all of this retarded shit before and I'll hear it before 1.0 too I'm sure
>>566871302/poeg/ stands with snoobae
>>566871302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWV1aVbLUEoThis is him btw.
>stormweaver is badlmao
>chronomancer is badomg
>varashta is badfrfr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITAXopuOpA>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITAXopuOpAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITAXopuOpA>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITAXopuOpAIT. IS. UPPPPP!!!!!
STR part of the tree is fineRed Life is fineWarrior ascendancies are fineThe real problem is that maces are absolutely useless except in very specific builds. Levelling with them is absolutely awful and you’re basically limited to shield builds. I’ve just created another warrior character and in Act 2 I just gave up and picked up a quarterstaffs, its three wind skills literally work better than all the fucking mace skills at this point.
>>566843870these guys didnt even spend five minutes to math out how good inevitable crit was. gacha CCs are 10x more rigorous than these shitters.
>>566872394ty gazatv
>>566872565leveling is the only good part of maces, how are you fucking up boneshatter?
Why is the Warrior a Kitavafag anyway? Isn't fire Ngamahu's thing? Kitava was the eceleb of the cringe slave tribe that the other Karui thought were embarrassing and retarded (that's why they never bothered to rescue them from slavery). He's not even in PoE2 outside of a vague mention buried deep in some optional dialogue. Warrior has no attachment to Kitava, if anything he's probably a Tukohama guy if he had to pick a Karui tribe.
>>566868919imo merc, every league I've started crossbow has been a good time
>>566871683What fucking retard jerks off in front of a webcam
6 mod maps now have 3 portals in poe2 softcore we just got more comfy
>>566873492is it something you have to spec into and give something else up or is it global now?
>>566872753>boneshatterAm I really missing something? It sucks, you’ll usually end up killing or stunning enemies rather than getting them to the point where you can use boneshatter.
>>566873435Most of us? we all cam share goon on the cord after a long grind sesh.
>>566873610from what ive heard its you losing a portal for every 2 mods on your waystone
>>566872565wrong
>>566871302He has a Japanese wife and lives literal Ken Sama dream in JapanAnd what do you have? Other than impotent rage?
>Oh hey, a showcase of the new Huntress Ascend>We have prepared 2 builds for you today, both of which the community already figured out just from the reveal stream (Companionmancer [requires an endgame drop] and instagib projectile spam)Lmao
>>566873610I don’t remember them giving a consistent answer. At first they just added more portals, and then they decided to throw in all that crap with “atlas classes”.
>>566873675they added this in point poo to make it easier: [url]https://poe2db.tw/us/Brink_I[/url]
>>566873675im sorry but if you cant figure this out you are too retarded for poe2
>>566868919wolf druid is hot fucking garbage in act 1 and 2
>>566873808>>566873435>Defending a 40 year old man gooning live on camHomo.
So who is correct3k max it is good or you need another 10k ES
>>566872565>Levelling with them is absolutely awfulWhy? It's just fine. You do assraping amounts of damage with good coverage, you have a jump skill, which is useful despite it being in slow motion.Shield builds are a gimmick to get "guaranteed damage", but if you're not retarded and know how to upgrade your mace, any mace setup does assraping amounts of damage.The actual problem is that the warrior skill rotations are boring and/or bugged, and that there are just too few skills, some of which are simply not enjoyable to use.>>566873675>you’ll usually end up killing or stunning enemiesthis is perfectly solvable by curating supports at every stage of the game, and lategame you can use the one that makes skills unable to stun.
>>5668742633k max is definitely not good btw thats assume you have 100% deflection chance2k is your actual life, ofcourse ward can add more we’ll see how much
>>566874212truke. i died after 15 seconds in clearfell. but wyvern is god tier so you can just do that, unless they nerf it which they will.
>>566873909Love how they add the infinite companion slop scepter so it completely invalidates they "keystone"on the tree no one was using.
>>566874263even if you dont need it up until now adding 3k ES is so free that you would be dumb to not do it. ofc mark was alarmed by this and is trying to change this in .5 so be warned.
>>566874019It still doesn’t solve the problem that all mace skills are slow and deal a lot of damage and stun by default.>>566874385The problem is that enemies die too quickly from normal attacks. Is this really a problem that needs to be solved? They just need to make all these skills enjoyable to use.Also imo maces don’t synergise very well with warrior ascendancies. There are a couple of hyper-specific slam nodes in two of them (which, since the druid’s release, work better on the talisman than on the mace), and everything else is just generally useful or even more useful to other builds.
>>566866360I'd play diablo 4 if it had loot and trade. 100% of things you find in that game are meaningless however; nuBlizzard can't itemize for shit.
>>566874496you need 2nd tier of gems for wyvern, bear is best for act 1 imo
I'm uhhhhhh kinda getting excited to play PoE 2
>>566876116No you're not. You know this - you're just saying it to make PoE 1 players look weak-willed.
>>566875752>Is this really a problem that needs to be solved?I don't know, is it? You want optimal coverage and the lowest possible kill times for packs. Often making your base attack not kill a mob, so that you can actually clear the whole pack and more with boneshatter+impact shockwave, is more optimal than pretending killing 1 mob with mace attack, then another, then another. Ultimately you don't even have to use this approach, you can fuck around with other skills.>Also imo maces don’t synergise very well with warrior ascendanciesThey synergise well enough with some of the nodes (warbringer warcry node, most titan nodes) but I don't really disagree. But keep in mind ascendancies weren't really designed to be weapon-specific, they're meant to be general.Most of the problems with maces aren't solvable with ascendancy changes anyway. The changes need to happen in the skills/supports windows. We need more variety, we need more simple "click button, do damage" skills that come in different shapes and forms. The current selection is really weighed down by the combo slop, and while that combo slop is numerically powerful, it's very easy to get bored.
>>566875853Diablo 4 has a trading system, but it’s so broken that an average item costs practically entire gold cap.
>>566876445People that play boneshatter are cope-rolling every pack. Most hideous gameplay I've ever seen
>>566873492is she still FAT
>>566876762I dunno why, warrior is pretty easy to facetank with, it only fails at tanking giga hits, which don't happen in maps much except on bosses.
No meme I downloaded poo1, played 15 minutes on my lvl 80 keepers starter and uninstalled again, it just feels like shit compared to poo2
>>566876762this is a campaign speedrun thing, you dont do this once you get a little attack speed
>>566876445>ost of the problems with maces aren't solvable with ascendancy changes anyway. The changes need to happen in the skills/supports windowsThat’s exactly what I meant. Warrior ascendancies are fine, but maces aren’t a good fit for them at all. And while you’re right that weapons aren’t tied to classes in the usual way, I think you should be able to pick a class, choose the weapon associated with it, and have no problems whatsoever. That’s how most classes and weapons work in both PoE 1 and 2. Pick a sorceress and she’s good with staffs, pick a monk and he’s good with quarterstaffs, pick a ranger and she’s good with bows, pick a warrior and he’s just good with anything. I think the problem will get even worse once we get axes and swords.
>>566819234>If you want meaningful feedback have a pop up appear when someone clears the campaign/first pinnacle boss and ask for feedback.Seriously why do developers struggle with this?
>want to play a life stacker>this costs 50 gorillion divines>need 2 of themTHANK YOU JONATHAN VERY COOL
where's the daily teaserthe update is just SO. BIG. right? it's THE BIGGEST UPDATE WE'VE EVER RELEASED!!! so surely you have enough to post a teaser every business day until launch, right?
>>566877486Do you really think anyone is going t want to fill out a survey mere moments after finishing.. anything?At best, make the menu button glow and have a survey button in there.
>>566876762most players are going leap slam -> boneshatter over and over. which is still pretty dull, but its a solid campaign build.
>>566877727Every other day. There was a teaser yesterday.
>>566877860but I thought this was the BIGGEST. UPDATE. EVER.I guess they must be just keeping everything so secret, right? so they don't spoil everything? surely that must be it. yup.
>>566858316Yes, I am (mazed)
>>566877001many are saying this
>>566877996there are 160 runes chud
>>566877804All the gacha do this for a small reward so people actually do the survey, it's so easy.
>>566877707is this a lich exclusive item or some shit? how do you overcome the 10% degen
>>566877854it's been a while since i played maces but i remember rolling to cancel the pointless final part of the boneshatter animation after it hits
>200 runes>None of them matterCool
>>566859426>>566867253>>566867329>8% damage as extraIncredibly mid, honestly. About equal to a skill point.>10% to all resYou're usually overcapped anyway with good gear unless you're real far into the game and with rarity>+1 level to all attack skillsAttack skills don't scale as hard but this is good, actually.>Every rage grants 1% increased spell damageGenuinely worthless>Shapeshifting shit with a scepterWorthless, even more so because you have to take that incredibly shit keystone that rapes your spirit in exchange for running a scepter
>>566878049>lesser rune of chud: 10% chance to avoid bleeding>rune of chud: 15% chance to avoid bleeding>greater rune of chud: 20% chance to avoid bleedingkino
For some reason ninja doesn't have a history of uniques, is poe2scout legit?I'm trying to see how expensive Defiance of Destiny was and it says a couple of div past the first few days. I remember Blood Mages using it in 0.3 though.
Just fucking remove rarity already holy shit
>>566878235>Genuinely worthlessThat's millions of damage on a crown of eyes build.
>>566878072some dogshit mtx or 1 free skin transfer and 99% of players would do it
>>566877996Yes, they’re actually keeping a lot from us and have no intention of revealing any of itFrom the Q&A we know>There’s at least one secret ascendancy, and maybe even more>Secret runes and crafting modifiers that "people will be searching for for months">The mid-league patch will feature actual content that simply isn’t ready yet>>566878259They don’t count every tier of runes because otherwise it would be well over 160as they add a new tier of runes for every existing (and new) rune
>>566878503Mark said in a roundabout way during the interview that it is here to stay
Do you know what i think when i play this game? More runes, it really needs more runes.
>>566860550Barkskin is bad but both wind dance and the raw armor gem are better by every metric except for needing to stack the armor with kills.
>>566878503hope they don'tif you're strong enough to where you can run rarity why notstop comparing yourself to others
Remember that bitching about rarity is the most direct admission of being a shitter.It's saying you can't spare like 3 affixes total on your gear to get more loot.
>>566878503I've played this game for 1400 hours and literally do not understand the problem with rarity, this game has so little prefix/suffix pressure as is.
When I play this game I think that it needs bigger tits.
What is the current state of rarity anyways. Last time I checked they lowered the upper range of rarity rolls on gear but didn't touch the global rarity breakpoints for currency drops. Doesn't this only reward partycucks who can get over any sort of rarity threshold?
Remember that bitching about bitching about rarity is the most direct admission of being a shitspammer.It's saying you can't come up with like 3 original ideas total in your posts to get more replies.
>>566874212>>566874496Wolf is pretty much only playable without actually playing the werewolf shit>terrible defences>cold aoe skill genuinely does less damage than autoattacking>autoattack somehow does more damage than the payoff skill + the explosion>all the buffs from lunar cry + freezing primed are singular hit warcriesWhat the fuck were they thinking making the added cold damage on a high speed archetype single use?
>>566878685Based, same here
removing quant mods was a mistake
>>566878819>if you're strong enough to where you can run rarity why noti think the problem people bring up is some builds are so strong that you can run rarity easier on them than other and defacto is makes it better than all builds for magic find and clearing content so why play other builds not that i give a shit i never run rarity gear
>>566878738Yeah it's really just barkskin being dogshit, no idea what they were thinking with that one. With that, on top of awful keystones, I'm not surprised se/armor is the worst defensive option in the game.
What if rarity only affected uniques and exceptional bases
>>566878939Ngl i kinda wish they revert IIQ removal in poo1 aswell the game kinda lost a lot of its charms since then
>>566878072>>566878547>Xey think GGG will ever reward the playerAnons...
Honestly people don't understand just how big 0.5 is. There are good reasons why it took so long to get all this done.They're just adding an absolutely ridiculous number of mechanics and unique features to the map. You can literally travel quite far on the world map and reach Oriath
>>566877040every boneshitter build cope rolls all the way up until you start using it as a movement skill only
>>5668785381% increased spell damage per rage kind of does nothing, even at 100% you're looking at about 5-8 points on the tree of inc spell damage while also investing into rage. Some things can be worked into this and I know Druid has the rage = more spell damage shit, but also it's not very good and you don't have the points to have this AND have the cool DR notables
>>566879183its a terrible argument. you could say the same about any demand the game makes of you.
>>566879068Party cucks have been abusing Magic Find for years, it's never going away. Same with party cucking, personally I think party cucking should punish you with less drops after a group of 3 but it is what it is. Trade mafia always wins I suppose.
>>566879526every time i hear someone talk good about some node that gives increased damage per something I can immediately tell they are a shitter. Nigga, your weapon has like 150% spell damage alone, that little gain from your rage is fuck all
>>566879125The frost stuff is fine later because herald of ice is stupid and gay and you use the stupid tailored lineage gem to get 80% free extra ice damage or whatever retarded thing it gives. Imo talismans suffer the most from overdetermined gameplay because each form has four skills each meaning theres only one gameplay pattern.
>>566879285Except for Shaman's druid's defensive options kind of suck overall>Need ES recharge and armor applies to ele in not negligeable amounts>ES and Armor have one conversion node whereas ES and EV have two (why?)>Scarred Faith and Zealous Oath anti-synergy>Both suck and are under tuned anyway because health regen and armor both need crazy investmentI also feel like they kneecapped all the Druid gems damage scalings in order to balance out the Druid side of the tree having a chunky amount of damage nodes
>>566879673co-op babs are such a soft demographic of spenders and non-players that they'll always get coddled. I think party advabtages are overblown but the game will probably be made even easier for them because they are such fertile consoomers who lap up anything as long as its easy.
>>566879915>Running herald of ice(raw dex) on a werewolf(str/int) build>Where you have few increased cold damage nodesI mean, it's certainly a possibility. I just don't think it's a good one and there's a lot of stuff you miss out on by running herald of ice instead. Werewolf is just largely not good unless you like zoo builds or CoC I think. Playable but I think relying on the cold damage means you're not going to get much chance to juice far.Also, yiffanons have to compete with Bear slams (good damage), Wyvern's entire stupid bullshit dealing infinity damage, and Garden druid
>>566879526Saving 5-8 points is enormous, and you didn't do the math properly either because those builds will be running extra max rage and berserk.> know Druid has the rage = more spell damage shitit doesn't work on crown of eyes builds (e.g. attack builds) and that's the kind of build I specified.>>566879758you don't understand scaling if you think a very cost-efficient 150% increased damage is not valuable. it's not "fuck all", it's exactly the percentage it is, which is easy to determine based on your total rage and berserk level, and that's super economic on specific builds.
>>566879934Shaman has god tier defensive nodesIssue for me was recovery. As you say life regen with ZO is like the most natural option and i could take it somewhat far but man life regen feels fucking expensive to get, puts so much pressure on suffixes
>>566879915Yeah they really needed to push the hybrid style more, I don't think anyone actually does the human + shapeshift kind of build they wanted.
>>566879934they just fucked up armour/ES in general because they did not understand how bad hybrid defenses are in a game where hybrid bases get no bonus stats. Probably thought "defensive layers" were functional because ES/EV was viable when in reality it was carried entirely by ghost dance being the most broken thing in the universe.
>>566879934>I also feel like they kneecapped all the Druid gems damage scalingsyou take a look at wyvern?
https://poe2db.tw/us/Rending_Staffhttps://poe2db.tw/us/Offering_Wandwill these be in 0.5?
>>566877804>make the menu button glow and have a survey button in there.people like you are weird af. did you imagine a full screen popup after killing kitava? ok so you imagined a terrible version of a ingame survey and then you basically just argue with yourself come up with a solution to a terrible idea that happened in your own head.
>>566880298you don't have 150 rage you can get like 60? It's not worth an ascendancy point. Now if the other slots had equivalent nodes that synergized to combine with one another, sure. But a singular weapon rune does not an ascendancy point make
>>566880298>savingYou and I both know you ain't saving shit investing into rage and spell damage when you'll be allocating those points anyway most of the time.Anyway>running crown of eyes for 100% increased ish or more attack damageEh, I don't think you're getting nearly the same mileage as just investing into something else directly or grabbing other things but I'll admit it does look more attractive with a crown of eyes build.
>>566880552My dumbass planned for rending staff being in the game in 0.1 and this shit is still not in the gameIm guessing they saw how good ED/C is for clear and didnt wanna give it too good single target ever
>>566879758I’m not saying it’s good, I just want to point out that, in total, it gives 150 increased damage with base 30 rage, 3 runes and one node that you can take via the amulet. Just a couple more nodes and it becomes 300 increased damage, 24 more damage from the druid and 35 more from the support gem that spends rage for more damage. I'm not saying it's good, but I want to try it now...
>>566880352>>566880451ES/EV was also carried by helmets having the best gaining node in the game at 2 evasion per 1 energy shield. It's a rough life existing on the opposite end of the tree, I think ES and Armor have the shield node and that's it? I'll have to review.>>566880460I should have mentioned with the exception of the Wyvern, Werewolf has fuck all base numbers and the bear is slow and has a bunch of added attack time. Wyvern getting invincibility and 1000% damage is scaling is very comical though
>>566878658>people will be searching for for monthswe datamine everything before it even comes out lmao what is blud yappin about
>>566881204Quote from Q&A
>>566881204The rune "recipes" might not be dataminable
>>566880819>you don't have 150 rage you can get like 60?can you ~60 with ~65% increased rage effect>Eh, I don't think you're getting nearly the same mileage as just investing into something else directlyMaybe you should open an adequate character from poeninja in pob (if you don't have your own) and verify this yourself.Do you think I have something to gain by pretending that rune is better than it is? I told you exactly what it was, it's efficient for crown of eyes chars. You can pob a more efficient rune on a specific pob, but it'll depend on the pob and it will not be far off from the best bonded effect.
>>566881167ES/AR has a boots node which is nice, but if you're not in hybrid bases in general there's not much point and theres so much downside to splitting investment in ES/AR specifically. I did a full AR titan wolf which worked, and a full ES oracle wyvern which worked, but attempts to go ES/AR on either did not go so well because ES and now AR both give you so much roi for grabbing recharge/elemental armour stats respectively.
>>566881531just honestly haven't taken the slightest look at coe builds in poe2 since they are basically aped from 1 and I'm not into playing recycled builds. You could very well be right, but on paper it's not that impressive. Show me a pob if you have one. If the bonded mod isn't accounting for at least 20% more damage its meh
Thoughts on martial artist and maybe maces? I like monk thematically but I hate the dex/int bull shit. The martial artist seems like you could do some str based shit on him and be fine. Thoughts?
>>566882731It can honestly save you a lot of hassle, as you don’t have to use all those annoying skills manually.
>>566882305You could've actually killed me dead here if you had checked yourself, cuz that rune doesn't even work on martial weapons (something I had missed), and is for staves. So I've been the retard all along.But if it actually worked on martial weapons, it would give a pob like thishttps://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/JwshBear-1394/JewishBearlike 1/5 more damage (extreme example that has almost 100 rage though)
>>566881531wait bro, are you fucking larping? The bonded modifier for damage per rage is on staff/wand. How the fuck are you using that on an attack build?
Path of Exile 2 is my Grail Game My favorite types of games are those with both engaging gameplay and a solid endgame loop that rewards grinding and respects the player's time. Many games pull these things off to varying levels of success, but nothing is perfect (Path of Exile 1 and 2 included).Some games waste my time with pointless activities or terrible rng, others turn me off immediately with FOMO, and some just end up getting old and repetitive too quickly. For years, my absolute favorite series has been Monster Hunter - fantastic gameplay, great horizontal progression, etc - though some of the more recent titles have been hit or miss on some of the elements mentioned above.Path of Exile 2, since 0.1, has sucked me in and is starting to become my favorite game that I'm excited to come back to every league. It isn't perfect by any means, but it hits every note I need it to.- First off, the presentation is top tier. Graphics, animations, and overall feel just lands so perfectly. This game is satisfying to play moment-to-moment, and that goes a long way. Other ARPGs these days tend to be floaty, but POE2 has real weight to it. - Controller support. I would have considered this blasphemy ten years ago. Now, as someone who games on steam deck the majority of the time, the controller support is so good here. That alone keeps me in POE2 way more than other ARPGs- The build and class variety is great. Granted it isn't done yet (RIP Swords) but I love GGG's creativity and attention to variety. Lots of niche character fantasies exist in this game - a recent example being the tattoo magic on the new monk ascendancy. It would be easy to put pages towards this, but in an attempt to be succinct, I'll just say that the biggest compliment I have for this game is that there are about a dozen builds I want to try at any one time, and picking one at league start is always painful.(1/27)
>>566882985See the post above. I admit my retardation and will promptly commit hara-kiri.
>>566882294>Boots>The Actual Lowest statted pair on par with gloves>Arm/Eva gets gloves>Fucking ES/EV get helmet and chestGGG deserve a pipe bomb
>>566882941nevermind just saw your post. It's a complete meme then
>(1/27)
>>566882731>>566882867>Taking an eternity to path to mace and armor nodesI don't know anons, seems like a lot of work
>>566882941>Theorycrafting a build you imagined in your head like a schizophrenic savant from planet XenuBased anon, thank you for this meme>>566883085It is okay, we forgive you. I had almost started hoping that you could actually cook up something pretty good but it turned out to just be spell rage again. I even think spell rage has half the effect of actual rage? It's like 1% more per 2 rage. Actually laughable
oh look, the poop2 community is having a totally organic drama episode again
> (1/27)
>>566883301you don't need to take mace-specific nodes, can just take generic damage nodes, and you don't need to play armour either (str stacking with a timeless jewel can stack ES too).I don't know if that ascendancy will be good, but if it is good, maces are a good angle. The same way rolling slam totems are good, rolling slam illusions will probably also be fine, and you can also play some skill with coverage instead.
>>566883301I wouldn't be pathing to the mace nodes or armor nodes and just would use whats near the monk and make due. Might lead to some interesting things. Can't say if it will be good or not. But I have played every type of warrior ascendancy already. Maces are my favorite weapon and martial artist has some thematically cool ascendancy points.
>>566883301There is literally just one mace cluster on the tree. And Monk part of the tree has plenty of attack and area modifiers. Most of them are ideal for use with maces as wind attacks of quarterstaffs overlaps significantly with maces. Plus there's crits.
How is Ruetoo coping with the fact that PoE 2 has 100x the player numbers of PoE 1, proving that the gameplay and game design of PoE 2 is objectively superior? Will he bow down to Jonathan or will he wither away in obscurity forever in unc slop games like PoE 1?
>>566883528>I even think spell rage has half the effect of actual rageDepends on the source. Bear in mind Shaman's "more spell damage per rage" and "increased spell damage per rage" are different stats, the "more" is more powerful when you also have increased so it being one 1% more per 2 rage makes it a pretty average damage ascendancy node.You could cook in this direction and get ok numbers (in terms of being able to zap content quickly), but relatively speaking, better caster ascendancies like Oracle, Abyssal Lich and BM will probably outperform it very hard regardless, with comfier resource management.
>>566883817behind all his memeing and screaming on twitch he is depressed. thats what he is writing in his discord channel at least. life in general not related to poe. he might quit streaming soon.
I think im gonna league start el monko.Martial artist apparently has a ton of interactions, and whatever secret ascendancy bs they mentioned has to be some kind of chayula expansion
>>566884458Being a streamerman is literally the only reason he gets women though. Same as Jung. He's 3'10" tall and looks like a racist Asian stereotype. Even being rich from his day job isn't enough. He would be a fool to quit streaming.
>>566884672you dont have to convince me I am just saying what I saw.
I think mace monk might be the way to go. He gets 30% attack speed for the first 10 levels.
>>566884458Hope he quits life as well.
>>566884672>the only reason he gets women thoughpretty sure he pays for it.Jung can probably get laid easily with enbys who appreciate his political correctness and sensitivity.
>>566884458Snoobae is holocausting all of the Asian streamers holy shit. And he's doing it while living his best life in Japan as a teacher. You love to see it.
Having now played every class/weapon type to endgame...Ranger is the best designed class in PoE 2.Lots of strong, straightforward clearing skills for a generally laid back 1-2 button clear, but then high single target damage is generally locked behind more APM intensive rotations. This is how it should be.In contrast to classes that are just playing PoE 1, or on the opposite end classes that are bloated with pointless complexity and want you to do fiddly skill rotations constantly, even against trash (even if a build ends up being strong enough to avoid all the combo bullshit, like what happened with Lightning Spear)
>>566885456retard
>Doryani's map is 40+ divinesThere goes a challenge.
>>566885746Just buy it lil gup, you ain't gonna spend those d's anyway
>>566885746Just go delve, you'll either make the 40d or find an architect and drop the machinarium.
>>566885746It's week 20 or something bro where's your money.
>>566885746not acquiring shit for challenges by the end of week 1 is a rookie mistake
>>566885456Lightning spear used a lot of combo bullshit, then they nerfed it and made the combo bullshit harder or impossible to pull off, and the skill was still strong.Yes there exists combos beyond the parry, you need to stop seeing one thing you dislike and hyperfixating on it.
>>566884458CCs always say this shit when they know they've been up to no good
>>566885746post sneed in global 2626 and ill give you one
>>566879440I'm curious about the infinite atlas layout, with the ocean being SE does that mean there's a diagonal coastline going from SW to NE and everything SE of that is ocean?
Take the SSF pill. Trade league is the poison that has infected both games. I hate that no one else sees the revelation besides me. HOW DO I GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND?!
Belton won
>>566886945Thanks buddy, I don't want to get doxxed. I'll gamer dad my way through delve the other day or so. Not even sure what else to finish when I'm going to be at 23/40.
>>566885746Here is what you're gonna do:Get Nightmare maps. Any Nightmare map.Use Scarab of the Sinistral and Scarab of the Dextral. Now the map has no modifiers.Kill the boss, loot and sell the drops to the currency trader. Easy 30+ div per hour.
>>566887112the game is balanced around trade
>>566887112i play ssf if theres literally no other games currently and i can grind for 3 weeks to get build going, i play trade if i wanna zoom zoom everything in a week
>>566887112If you play ssf, you have a defeatist mindset, and do so to remove yourself from a pseudo perceived competition. You cope by saying that you are enjoying it, that you are now free to use currency, but you know deep down that using currency is a waste, and ssf is pure cuckoldry that tunnels you into meta builds and absurd hours of grinding if you want to go anything but meta. It's a mode solely for racing, streamers, and neets who want to prolong the time to not think about their lives.
>>566887703>Nightmare mapCheers anon, didn't know that exists. I'll give it a shot.
IT'S OUTIT'S OUT IT'S OUThttps://youtu.be/miL0Ms-VwGI
>>566887790>you know deep down that using currency is a wastewhat the fuck kind of mazed shit is this?
>>566860068>tactician and that build has a good split between you actually playing the game and you pets also doing somethingThat's not fucking true at all.Tactician minion is bait.
>>566887581alright np sisif anyone else wants to claim it I'll stay logged in for another 5 mins
>Rituals now show you where all other Rituals areRITUALFAGS WONRITUALFAGS WONRITUALFAGS WONRITUALFAGS WON
>>566887790I knew trade wasn't for me when I dropped a head hunter early league a long time ago. Sold it, "printed" a build and then quit. Trade just fucks with the flow of character development too much and I hate it.
>>566888032sounds like a particular culture, can't imagine which
>>566888321it takes all the fun out of upgrades when 5 minutes on the auction house increases your damage more than hours of gameplay
>>566888321honestly it's best to play ssf until you reach the point where it becomes absolutely fucking cancer to minmax
>>566888321>I dislike something so EVERYONE has to dislike itOr maybe you could just play the game, have fun, and shut the fuck up about your dogshit opinions.
>>566888015>"streamlining">We added landmarksThat's not streamlining, lmao, that's "adding good visual cues.">Hunting Grounds is still a massive fuck-off circle and it's still faster to just follow the outer edge of the zone than to interact with the new zone signageLmao
>>566888616doomsissy MAD
>>566888321i play SSF on poe2 and its superior to trade i must admit i would do the same for poe1 but there is way too many crafting mechanics for me to understand it to 36/40 each league
>>566888575I didn't say everyone has to like it. However, I do believe the game should be balanced for SSF and then just leave trade as is. There is too much design overhead with trade. If some dude finds a dupe in SSF, nobody cares. If a dude finds a dupe in trade league? The economy shits and itself and then GGG has to go into defcon 9 to fix it.
>>566888015>Mention Matlan Waterways>Expect Mark to say "we reduced Matlan Waterways in length">Lol, noJesus Christ, fuck off. We only got not-shit Waterways for 1 single patch.
SSF fags are like vegans; you might not even want to know, let alone care, but they will tell you that they play SSF.
>>566888843It will never be balanced for SSF.
>>566888843Protip: Don't respond to people who put words in your mouth. They're (You) farming.
>>566888934HCSSF btw
>>566887790retard
>>566888934Truth nuke.
>>566888934funny you say this after this post >>566887790
>>566888015streamlining by...... adding some gay little tells that newbies will not be paying attention to?this is so retarded>"maps are too big">we heard you exiles, here's a new mechanic, sprint, but if you get hit by the slightest breeze, you'll be knocked down for 10 seconds and probably die>duuuude if you look really closely you can see there's some paper on the walls and you can go in that direction to get to the place you want to go!
>>566889068We are happy that you have fun playing SSF but >>566888934 we really don't want or need to hear about it. If you find issues with how SSF is managed in poe2 then take it up with the devs, not us, because again we don't care.
>>566888015>don't memorize layouts goys we are changing them>we just added yellow paintuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
uh oh tradie meltie
i bought the mouse cursor pack because yolomouse is being fucking retarded and not resizing my animated anime mouse cursor fuck you GGG i know you did this
>>566889613Don't forget to thank GODD Howard for this innovation.
>>566889613retard
Landmarks and stuff are good. They're all over PoE1.But like many times, they're making a mountain out of a molehill and acting like this fixes everything when it fixes nothing.
>>566889541>Add a mechanic that PoE1 players cried about 2 not having>Somehow they still find issues with itSprint is a god tier mechanic in poe2 and i fucking love seeing retards get filtered by it.
MAGICALGLOWINGROOTSthis is hugeeveryone will be coming back for this update5 million players on league start
>>566888934I'll shut up about ssf if you shut up about prices and divs/hr, sound good?
>>566889652>Buying mouse cursors
>>566889724NEW ROOTS
>>566889717>>Add a mechanic that PoE1 players cried about 2 not havingNo asked for sprint LMAO
>>566889724ITSBRANCHING EXILE
>>566889775the vaal one is pretty good
H A R D
>>566889724>>566889706The maps are already easy to navigate, both campaign and endgame, and at best you could only truly complain about one or two zones having large dead end paths (that presumably will have content there in the future). Common sense dictates the exit is opposite the entrance, a retard can at least handle circling the edge of the map, and these small tells will help for the """skilled""" players who can use them to beeline towards points of interest instead of circling the map.I mean really you are a grown ass map stop crying about areas not being a straight hallway holy fuck bro it's embarrassing.
>>566889992not a single human on this list
why did they move bog to waterwaysthat means you don't get your second spirit upgrade until halfway through act 3 lmao
>>566889882>too stupid to realize the post was referencing both the tells and sprintAlso, you did ask for sprint, lil zoom zoom.
Can I make a new SSF character, fill his inventory with some currency, and have it available if I convert him to trade league?
>>566889992Did he use AI to generate this list? It has that trademark piss filter.
COMPACT ANTI DOOMIE GUN
>>566890234Yeah.Sending a character to Tradecore sends their entire inventory with them.
>>566890214So sad to see someone so young with dementia. People asked for movement skills, Sprint isn't that.
>>566890336Nice. I just want to finish these challenges already
also isn't bog the hardest shit to navigate or is it just mebog is so fucking dogshit with all the tiny crowded little ramparts and it goes in circles, looping on itself and there are only 2 actual things to do in the mapthey didn't even say they added landmarks pointing to the bog witch
>>566890392It's a movement skill that actually requires skill and decision making to use, and it's not without risk, it's a perfect addition to the game. Combine this with the default roll, which you can augment, you have all the movement you need.
I love ds_lily!
>>566890538I don't have problems with bog and spend less than 2 minutes in it each run because I'm not a gay retard
>>566890538Bog is by far the largest time sink area for me every league. I will reveal the entire map before I find the witch
>works on my machine!they're adding these changes because they have people screaming about it on the forums 24/7 retard
>>566890743Yes we know poe1 players need their yellow paint, straight hallways, crafting bench, and flamedash.
>>566890852>Muh poe1 playersIts funny every time. This is the playerbase PoE2 got. You don't get these complaints in 1 lol. 1 doesn't even have those outside of the bench.
Ok but is the Deshar climb still going to be AIDS
zaccie hates poe1 and its players so freakin much boo hoo ;_; he hates it!!!I wonder how much of the team is like that; where they just hate poe1 and wish that it didn't existI imagine johanthan does have quite a bit of it also, mark doesn't seem to hold the same grudges though
>>566890538it used to be my most hated map until I did the research and learned the path to take to rush to all the possible ignagduk spawn locations based on the entrance position/facinghoping they don't change the layout too much in 0.5.0 because even an objective simplification of the layout would potentially slow me down to relearn it
>>566890978Anon it's literally you, a poe1 player, complaining that the game isn't exactly like poe1, demanding the maps be smaller, simpler, and easier to navigate.
Just stop replying.
>FREE +6 skill levels>no one uses itBut why?
>>566891325>FREE>takes an item slot
>>566891325you mean plus 3
>>566891325>+6Yeah bwo, you're definitely using all those skill types.
>>566891608>he isn't a snapchad
>>566891325elemental weakness up BIGLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miL0Ms-VwGIfollow the cums
>>566887790trvke
>>566889992who the fuck are any of these retards?
ded thred ded gaem(s)
>>566892673honestly the best part of this update
>>566889992>no ds_lily*yawns*
>>566889992>micropenisshit>ghazzyshit>literally who>literally who>literally who>literally who>literally who>aerobased>raxxshit>balormageshit>neversinkshittiest shit>literally whoALL THE STARS ARE HERE
>>566892673the traitor's passage thing was how it always was, wasn't it? I've used that cue since the start and it never failed me
>>566893074the exit can be fucking anywhere was the problem, ive had it be past balbala, before her, off on some far away snaking path, straight through the area...only having 2 paths you know what to look for on each is 1000x better
>>566889992this sucks, why didn't he invite me?
>>566889992>BalormageAh yes, a fat neckbeard with neon pink nails. Truly someone to relate to us gaymers
>>566893380huh I guess I just got lucky, I always got an intersection layout like they described in the video, saw the papers and knew balbala was that way and went the opposite way when I wasn't planning to ascend for a quick halani gatesgood that it'll be more consistent then
>>566893403Not hard enough.
>>566890538bog is mire so it's certainly a common opinion
>>566893626I'm 19 days nofap how much harder can someone be
>>566893827nofap is as soft as you can get
>>566894023I must be doing it wrong then
>>566893448I'm glad you finally have some representation
>>566891325Ele hit of the spectrum and one hand crossbows in PoE 2 when
>>566895405>>566895405>>566895405new thread for new players
