Emergency transmission thread edition![PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Return of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>>566819112
Hello everyone!
>>566895405Don't mind me. I'm just jerking off live on cam.
Oh good a not terrible thread OP.Thank you.
Do you know your league start or are you waiting for patch notes?
What happened to Furina
>every streamer is playing D4 until 0.5This is torture
>atziri is queen>all is well>atziri fucks the beast>oh no cataclysm!>better build some statues with 4 tits!???
>>566895634Probably some shitty Huntress thing with the new Ascend.And when that fails, plant Oracle.
2 > 1This is mathematically proven
>>566895832Corruption is a force of chaotic transformation. Atziri was at the epicenter of the corruption wave and had the most powerful transformation; all existing representations of her (two-titted statues) were transformed into representations of her new corrupted form.
what is the poeg consensus on this ascendancy? is it good or shit?
>>566896561It can't even tame bosses/10
PoE1 baby here.How do I even start playing PoE2?What are the main differences?Starter?
>so where is tota?>we have not even thought about tota LIARS HINEKORA SEES THROUGH THEM
>>566896561The channeling is highly dependent on power charges to be good. Bells are meme tier until we get something that can actually use them smoothly. Stonefist is great. Runes are great. Mountain looks like a meme unless bells count as uniques and you get max stacks from them. Still missing two nodes though, they're probably still being worked on if they're getting held back, so it's probably broken one way or another.
>>566896703First you buy the game, then you install it.
comparison is the thief of joy
How do you feel about twisters being forced both by devs and streamers
>>566896492>chaotic transformation>except for statues, those will transform in unison to represent what they used to represent 1:1, they cannot possibly transform to represent a pile of twirling red flesh tentacles>other things made out of stone are not touched by corruption, just the statues??????????????????????????
listen the atziri statues are either a mistake or atziri got her demon form before and it was a temporary thing
is there any mention of new passives for command skills for the desciple of verashta? i cant find anything on the tree for it except 1 cluster
>>566896820who the fuck is hinekora and why is she teased in 2?>cut lore that's not accessible anymore from a league with a mechanic that was cut and never came backimpressive. the only question is, if they were so ashamed of the lore and mechanic in 1, why bring her back in 2?
Find a single flaw.Hint: You can't.
>>566895634Mainly waiting for patch notes, but my current plan if nothing catches my eye big time is ED/C into Bleed Falling Thunder Bloodmage.Also eyeing Hollow Focus with reduced duration stacking.
When did you realize that it was over?
>>566898574that would be one hell of a mistake. the only logical explanation is that the cataclysm wasn't as bad as everyone wants you to believe, and atziri ruled during the cataclysm or something like that.
>>566898825but its not overits releasing this decemberthats the opposite of over
>>566898825when blizzard released d3 again and called it d4. the entire ARPG genre was born and died with diablo 2. it's insane, they are not even trying to make a gritty dark fantasy game anymore. it's like a disney theme park for homosexual retard.
>>566898825yup its over you can leave now.
I'm gonna be honest, the main characters from a2-4 are killing the entire atmosphere of the game. a1 is oozing with atmosphere, and then we "what if inbred muslim slavers were women and steal your bosskill" followed by "the gamemaster's quirky self-insert" and then "oogabooga me noble savage stealing your bosskill and then tarding out pls no be mad at me pls pls"get the fuck out of here with that shit, I always dread meeting these awful characters again during every playthrough
i was saying this game is unoptimized shit burning my pc up i ended up having to replace the thermal paste on my gpu it turns out i was wrong sorry u guys were right
>>566898901no it can be an easy mistake as there were no "normal" models of atziri at the time and the art team aren't huge lore spergs to be hardliners about lore discrepancies
>>566898764Are thorns builds even remotely viable? It seems fun but when I looked around 0.2 there were like 3 guys playing it
>>566900274They're "viable" in the sense that you can do most content but you'll run into brickwalls where the boss won't play along.
>>566900389Don't you just use the stuff that lets your apply your thorns damage on hit so you don't care about what the enemies do?
>>566899805It's because act 1 is kino and Chris-designed and acts 2+ are shit and Jonatroon-designed. Simple as.
>he is a jingakh
>>566899805>Chud sees a powerful woman in a video game and comes up with a million excuses as to why that’s bad instead of dealing with his own insecurities
Now that the dust has settled and there's concepts of an endgame can we stop pretending that temples were good?
>>566900675If it was any good you'd see more people doing thorns stuff.
>>566901264I have seen people doing it and from what I've seen the issue it has is shit clearspeed, but the bossing seems solid.
>>566901005what about the male npc who was criticized? it's only bad when people shit on badly written women?
>thorns>good>in a game where 98% of players are botsNot gonna happen. Same reason minions won't be allowed to be good.
>>566899805Except the Maraketh are cool as fuck.
the karuis did nothing wrong
I work at geegThe interludes are a prototype for a campaign shortcut on alts. Basically you run an 'interlude' version of all the acts on a second character that starts at level 15. You're expected to finish them in a little under half the time as the regular campaign which we expect to take longer with act 5 and 6 out. As opposed to A10 and A5 in PoE 1, act 6 is quite large like act 2 or act 4 in PoE 2, so the game actually needed a shortened campaign for alt characters.
poop of excrement
>>566902229Jonathan here.actually we want act 5 to take as long as acts 1-4 combined.you will never get a skip.
>>566899805it is crazy that we get kill stolen twice
Anyone else upset that so much weird shit in PoE2 takes up insane dev space and design time? Particularly FUCKING MINIONS. I hate minions players so much because all of their shit takes insane amounts of dev time to make sure its not fucked up. Spectres? People wanted to play fucking pokemon in a ARPG and we end up now with a permanent fucking anchor on us by the minions retards. Any new enemy introduced has to be checked time and time again for exploitative moves because spectre exists. Now we have companion shit and its the same crap. Any new beast boss ever introduced must now work with that fucking ascendancy any new beast introduced etc. FUCK MINIONS. FUCK MINIONS PLAYERS. IIMAGINE if we never had fucking spectres or if they never went so hard on this new companion shit? We would have had swords and axes. Minions players begged for shit they aren't even going to use because they are just going to spam skeletons anyway or whatever. FUCK THEM.
>PoE2kinda shit>PoE2 (with a controller)it's kinda fun
i want to profitcraft from metaslaves are there any guides on how to craft items
>>566902678agree but minion players are THE most vocal minority
>>566902678TRVKE
>>566902678they got their claws in poe1 tooalmost every bloodline isminionshit
>>566902229retardedly fake
>>566902229the shortcut version of the campaign should be sending you to do the poe1 campaign on your poe2 character
>>566902678God help us when they implement animate guardian or whatever. Minions players have no idea the overhead of all the shit they want. Never forget the giant mosquito companion issue or that weird frost ant. That was just the beginning. Other shit is going to slip through as time goes on and more shit gets added.
>>566902069from the perspective of a villain, yes. they would have made a great faction that ultimately betrays you, forcing you to take them down at the end of the act. but instead, you have to side with the retarded slavers and have to go along with their self-righteous, irrelevant drivel.
>>566903545AG, Spectres, and pokeballing companions were all mistakesThey should all be removed from both games.
>>566898825I wasn't around for the release info for this patch. What was the reaction here? Were people dooming from the start or was there actual interest?
>>566899805>the gamemaster's quirky self-insertare you talking about Alva or doriyani?
>>566895634Depends on how badly the current builds get nerfed. I'm expecting Oracle to die Bigly, possibly ED/C nerfs because of how consistent it is, and I'm not entirely sure I'm interested in playing anything else so I might just try out something like Shaman slooms or Warrior for once.
>>566902678she killed millions (of dev hours)
>>566903669I find it significantly more interesting to find out your allies against a common cause are actually flawed and arguably evil. It makes the overall story more intriguing by adding complexity to the various factions you meet.
>>566899805spoken like a true cultureless crackkker
What's the poeg-approved race?
>>566904052can't wait for edc to become as shit in poe2 as it is in poe1!!!!!!!!
>>566904229You being brown isn't a sin, it's what you do with that brownness that makes you sinful.
>>566903738shit like this make me think that maybe larry is in fact a real woman because only a woman would post this kind of cringe
>>566904325aren't Viera the only reason to play this garbage
>>566903936servi
>Area has patches of "Turn off your fucking build and die in 1 second"This shit isn't even fun in boss fights, why is it a map mod? Literally just a rollover unless you're invincible.
>289 more poops until patch notes>446 more poops until league launch
>>566904601>her build can't handle some basic ground degens
>>566904648>3.29 is 446 days awaywtf?
>>566904648Anon has IBSInfinite Booty Shit
>>566904601uh oh armorkek meltyshould have rolled an energy shield build like Jonathan intended
>>566903738Maybe it's not poe1 players that are weak, maybe it's this generation. For so long we complained that games were becoming more streamlined and simple, but now you have people complaining that games aren't hallways with yellow paint and cheering whenever content is dumbed down.Humanity is doomed I guess.
>>566896561>Power charge consoomerBad>BellsT1 Bell is unreliable but pretty free damage and I imagine not hard to get screenwide AoE if you spec for it>Bell on backSeeing as how it's the same skill, but on crit, you can probably get very good clear and stun buildup with this>Mountain nodeI think this is bad, immobilizing is kind of gay but getting full stacks on bosses is pretty nice, 20% more damage with shaky uptime is sort of whatever and stacks being auto-consumed means that it's not reliable defense when mapping and instakilling whites.>Fists of stoneActually incredible, makes any pair of gloves almost as good as a helmet and the buffs we saw were great with a well rolled pair being about as good as 60% more damage. Might get nerfed pre-emptively since everyone is gooning over this.>tatoosBoring, but consistently quite good especially with all the new runes we get access too. Having + 1 boots socket is great though because you get to shove in 5% movespeed in there. Hollow Form is kind of a meme
>>566904927off to bed with you, unc
>>566904325>not choosing male hyurNGMI troon
>>566904541i like the lolis
where are my fucking golems in poe2 Johnathan?!?!??!
>>566898764I like the way you think but I think your rune setup is neglecting that Olroth's is a rune and it won't be easy to gamble on a +1 slot for shoes and helmet with corruption. Also, expensive as hell and still kind of squishy
>>566905280she was playing it yesterday
>he isn't wardmaxing in 0.5WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAA BUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>566905075My bedtime is later than yours lil guy.
>>566904529or be that boring
>>566902678>>566903545Anime guardian is going to be so good in this game, like a golden GOD of wasted dev time. And I'll never even run it
>>566905356I'm going to wardmax because I'm gonna need it to generate the ice crystals needed for the captain breachlord shield slam skill
>>566905356we know nothing about itwe don't even know if ward will be effected by %defenses
>>566905395There is no reality in which you had to have thought this was a cool line. You must actually be 16 years old lmao
>>566905518Same but let me steal your build.
>>566903879I think everyone has been slightly malding that we've had a full year without any new story content and that these cunts have spent that entire year on systems reworks that any anon could have told them was a bad idea all the way from 0.1>No one liked towers>Everyone hated tradeoffs and the new support gems>endgame was pretty bad for the most part not so much because of a lack of chase but because of bad loot and being forced to play shit layoutsThey're attempting to fix all of these, and I'm glad for new content, but I'd rather have more classes and the rest of the campaign. The main problem is honestly just how long this has taken them to realize their mistakes. On the other hand though>new pinnacle bosses for everything except abyssHonestly, I like bossing so this is good. Too bad bossing sucks
>>566904927low IQs in the older generations didn't play computer games, they watched TVlow IQs in the younger generations were dragged into computer games to "fit in"now computer games are made for the new audience of retards
doomsissies getting weird again
>>566905721uh anon you're not forced to run any map, just go to a different section of the atlas ;)
>>566905280Jonathan hates golems because they're minions who buff you (and do it for free). That's like, all three things Vision-man hates>minions>for free>buffing the player>>566905676Not sure if short or hung
>>566905603>16 year old unc
>>566903879Normal people considered 0.4 over all good, especially because Druid is one of the most polished and fun classes to play.Retarded terminally online niglets from this general and autistic, talentless youtubers who have thousands of hours in the alpha already started seething because this game is their entire life, and when their expectations aren't met 1:1 they lose their shit
>>566905875Jonathan loves minions based on how 90% of new content is designed to support minions or assumes that you're using minions because they're free buffs and meat shields
>>566904220that is indeed very interesting. the problem is that the game serves you about two lines that imply that they are outright evil (the slaves comment by your character, and the comment by the king during the first encounter where he flees), but for the rest of the time, tries to paint them as noble, similar to the arrogant and backstabbing Karui.here's a writing tip: if you write an unlikable retard, don't make them part of the main cast. nobody enjoys meeting unlikable retards over and over again.
>>566905567if i understood the reveal right and it's a cheat death that mostly replaces other defenses, the minmax strat is probably to have as little ward as possible to avoid one-shots without compromising other stats
>>566903879I think a bunch of people were hoping for swords and duelist. Personally I prefer having an endgame.
>>566905914>Druid is one of the most polished and fun classes to play.
>>566906074Pretty sure it's basically just ES that goes under health instead of on top. It doesn't actually directly save you from one shots, it's just extra ehp.
>>566906083The endgame is basically the exact same except there's a couple more bosses thoughbeit.
Just saw a youtube comment asking for a directional environment tell for Waterways.Beginning to wonder what portion of the group that endlessly complains about waterways doesn't understand that waterways is linear.
>>566906243>just ES that goes under healthcompelling design, nuanced, no wonder it took six months
>>566905721>Everyone begs for systems reworks>Get giga systems reworks>"uhhhhh yeah you know I kind of wanted things other than systems reworks"
>>566906142He's not wrong, it's weak but it's fun. Maybe wyvern gets some tuning, but that's about it.
>>566906380I sure do love playing my 3 GGG approved builds (no deviation or experimentation allowed)
>>566897903twister is a terrible build and people will crash out after a few hrs with carpal tunnel. So pretty based I guess
>>566906142It's polished and pretty fun, it's only real sin is lacking skill options because it's 4 classes in 1 and they tried to fit all of that in one weapons skill menu.
>>566906375Systems reworks probably shouldn't be so necessary this early unless the dev fundamentally had the wrong idea about how certain systems would be received (they did). Also annoying to get druid held up for 3 patch notes because "animation work is hard :(" but when Druid finally comes out and we wait 6 months for an update the excuse is very flimsy
>>566906524just play it with controller
>>566906265Yes, having a bunch more bosses and pinnacles is expanding the endgame. Ritual changes are great, breach changes are great (once they get rid of the walls), the runes and crafting stuff is so so but overall good imo. People freaked the fuck out at 100+ runes, I don't think it's actually going to be that bad. Look at essences, there's a whole bunch of them but the total is inflated due to tiers and a bunch being lightning vs cold vs fire, etc. Just search for mods you want and throw it in the gear, that's it.
>>566906774I don't care, please stop whining about everything.
>>566906503If anything, people are playing all options except for the GGG approved build. They've basically tried to push for the constant shifting playstyle every time they showcase druid, but nobody actually does that, they just stick with one main form and maybe use another for utility.
>>566906810Or we could just have like a table in your hideout that had a list of mods you could add to your items in exchange for a nominal currency costWe could even lock some of the most impactful mods behind divine orbs to act as like a currency sink or something...No, that's silly. We should continue adding hundreds of socketable items each update instead.
>>566906567>>566906380>Four classes in one>Both ascendancies basically have mandatory nodes because everything else is bad>The main class fantasy of hybrid spellcasting/melee is basically unplayable>Has the world's slowest spells>Wyvern is overwhelmingly better than the other 2 transformations
>>566906854>ITS GOOD STOP SAYING ITS NOT>JUST....JUST FUCKING BUY IT ANYWAY, OKAY?!keep throating that kiwi meat brotha
>>566896561does heavy stun count as immobilised?
>>566906808>just mash your thumbs brothat's not any better. literal 7 button combo to clear a screen
Thinking of playing again. I haven't touched the game since 0.2. Are we able to reset ascendancy now? Or reset the atlas?I might go play in Standard since I'm going to be playing pretty casually, like 2 hours a week-ish.
>>566906959What's the difference between using the bench to spend a div for the craft you want vs using the market to spend a div for the rune craft you want?
>>566906959Why not remove all gear, consolidate all stats into a single term, Power, and as you play the game the Power number keeps getting higher. Hell why even play the game, what if we had an auto battler that ran through content on it's own so you didn't have to click at all.We're going to do this again I guess.
>>566907108yes
>>566907242a runecraft is a slot among multiple that goes on already crafted items where you've already spent divines. So not analogous
>>566907332>muh slippery slopeI accept your concession.
>>566907332retard
>>566907446>>566907242
>>566907108Anything that stops movement entirely so pretty much every CC in the game except for slows
>>566905914Druid looks cool in a trailer but is probably the low point of PoE 2 class design for how it plays.Instead of abilities that can stand alone a collection over-designed "kits" each with overly prescribed, highly repetitive play patterns. Wolf Druid is fun for approximately 10 minutes.
>>566907496Reducing bloat in the item pool and providing an actual use for divines to minimize the rampant inflation and prevents retarded situations where you are forced to use the market just to get something incredibly basic like elemental resistances.Also improves life for those that play SSF since they're not totally cucked by RNG drops.
>>566907358>>566907519nice
>>566907561this is why I never liked the idea of shapeshifting and never understood why everyone loves the idea. How could it even be implemented in any way that doesn't end up like this?
I'm gonna go Martial Artist with Bear Slams and /poeg/ can't stop me
>builder>spender
>>566903738I don't get it
You anons think Druid keystones will remain sucky? They're almost all pretty shit and take too much investment
>>566907381A bench craft is a slot that goes on already crafted items with an open affix where you've already spent divines. Or for multimods, multiple open affixes. It's functionally a crafting bench where the prices update according to demand directly instead of GGG meddling with the prices. You could've at least pointed out that in SSF it'd be different, but anyone playing SSF is already fine with scrounging together a build based off what they find.
>>566907561This druid archetype with the shapeshifting shouldn't be a playable class. Its an antithesis to the poe class design.
>>566907638>Reducing bloat>>566907332
>>566907710Back during the first reveal of both PoE2 and shapeshifting, Werewolf could use both axe and sword skills and was basically just a buffed state for your character. Well, sort of. Werewolf was fast but I don't think they ever mentioned a tradeoff other than maybe it was using the werewolf form as a trigger gem.
>>566907932see>>566907446
>>566906810essences are a dogshit system and i can't believe ggg brought them over from poop1there should be an essence bench with essence juice instead of having to read though 200 "superb essence of cuckoldry" tooltips then open trade when you inevitably don't have the good one
>>566907846druid forms should have just been like the infernalist demon mode instead
>>566907742i bet it doesnt make it spirit walker blue version as it should
I love building charges so then I can spend them I love slow combat I love playing an arpg as slow as playing magic the gathering
>>566907830disanalagous. Just because you mocked my verbiage doesn't mean you made an argument retard. The item itself has to be crafted and can be crafted with meta mods as the end step in poe1. The crafting process of the item itself has a cost. There is no cost on the item after that. Runes are an additional cost after the crafting has completed in poe2 and represent an additional end step
How do I have fun with melee
>>566906935I played wolf exclusively. Got very bored during campaign when I realized there was nothing more to it, but still pushed on to endgame. Decided to look up what others were doing just to see how much I was fucking up with my build and realized everybody playing wolf was doing the same thing as I was doing. Thats when I dropped 0.4 and I'm never playing anything druid ever again.
>>566908682You make it "melee"
>>566908682play monk or any of the new shapeshifting shit do not play hammers
>>566908975So make another sorceress
>>566908851>Anons playing wolf either wanted to kill themselves, played "wolf (cast on crit comet)" or summoned 20 wolvesSounds about right. There are ways to make it work well-ish but having 5-7 buttons to press and like 3 more for buffs isn't very fun
>>566908995I'm gonna play monk hammers
>>566908682Use a sword or flail.
>>566909213What about daggers and claws?
>>566909179Frost/rage wolf was fairly easy, one tap screen shatters.
>>566909496>One tapWith what? Did you spam the sweep with herald of ice or something?
Why didn't Chris Wilson stay to work on poe 2? Was it not slow paced and methodical enough for him?
>>566909298Dropped, too difficult to code please understand saar.
>>566909724Chris Wilson's PoE2 (4.0) looked greatJonatroon ruined it.
>>566909179frost wolf has good clear once you get lunar blessing that + herald of ice is very good but imo wyvern has the best and laziest clear in the game all u do is press left click packs and against bosses u use oil barrage and 1 tap them idk it just feels so boring though, they're so self contained and it feels good to play them but a wolf build will always end up using the same skills, same with wyvern, same with bearthere's so little variety in the game, feels like i'm playing last ark or some shit its so bad
>>566909761Just ask claude, bro
>>566908682play longer than act 1
>We created a shittiest campaign in the entire history of ARPGs>1.5 year later instead of fixing our shitty designed campaign, we giving you the clues where to go.BRAVO GGG OH MY FUCKING GOD
>build up X stacks>then spend X stacks for a slight damage buff for one attackthis kind of gameplay is why poop2 will never be great
>>566909556Pretty much, you could buff lunar assault heavily through rage stacking and then throw the install buff on top, I forget the name. Not exactly the most sophisticated build but it was smooth for map clears.
>>566910398>We created a shittiest campaign in the entire history of ARPGsTry d4, my dude
What's the point of adding a dozen pinnacle bosses that 99% of the player base will never fight?Never got this part of poe development, they don't do anything to keep people from getting bored and quitting in acts.
>>566910398>We created a shittiest campaign in the entire history of ARPGsLegitimately I don't get why people praise Grim Dawn's campaign over PoE, there is not a single part of Grim Dawn I remember
Of the ones I've not killed, which uber is the easiest?
>>566910729yes, my little pooper, it even worse than Vessel of Hatred campaign.
wait THIS is Kelly?????????
>>566908427>mocked my verbiageI wasn't mocking, I was describing how the crafting bench worked, in the same manner you described runes, to highlight how similar they are.>The item itself has to be craftedNo real difference, you basically just have one less affix compared to runes.>can be crafted with meta modsWe're getting that with this patch.>Runes are an additional cost after the crafting has completed in poe2 and represent an additional end stepI don't know why you arbitrarily consider runes to not be part of the crafting process, as I keep showing you it's pretty much the same thing just presented differently.
>>566911209Xi sent in one of his agents to ensure that Jonathan and Mark were doing their jobsJonathan's mandatory daily hakka war dance each morning was the first thing cancelled.
should i make a blizzard account just to buy diablo 3? its the only blizzard game macs can run besides WoW and a few others.inb4 off topic. my m3 macbook pro crashes after 10 minutes of playing PoE, consistently. 10 minutes, crash. 10 minutes, crash. performance is flawless other than that, though.and yes, i know, macs are trash. i plan to switch to linux eventually.
>>566911461Some of Linux distros can work on Apple M-series I believe.
>>566910508>>566909865I don't know, feels kind of sad when you're spamming a somewhat slow mid skill but I guess when you freeze often it's alright, can always use basic attack on rares. I think I'll probably just stick to pack tactician for a league start
>>566911106any of the eagon boss would work
>>566911045the allure of poe is that you get to pretend to be an elite gamer
>>566911045you're meant to get bored and quit in actsonce you've bought the supporter pack, you're just a drain on ggg's servers
>>566911106Exarch is really easy since the mechanic (balls) can be skipped and the minotaur isn't very challenging if your build isn't made of glass. Maven, Eater, and Elder are all cancer with way too many annoying mechanics
>>566911365This but unironically
>>566911802Made it to act 3 for the first time in the last patch. I was proud of myself. Maybe this next one I'll actually finish the whole campaign.
>>566911209Kelly but her real name might be Cai Liu xD
>>566911995thats why the call it aspirational content
>>566911995Have you tried just running through them really fast? Granted, it's not exactly easy without using +1 spells
>>566912278The problem is I haven't been able to find a build that really clicks with me. Lightning spear and frozen orb was my jam in d2 but I tried lightning spear last season and for some reason it wasn't the same. In d3 I loved impale dagger but again I can't really recreate that feeling. Tried druid wyvern that was kind of cool but I just get bored super fast and swap around to 3 or 4 random builds and give up. I'm sure it's me problem I'm not blaming the game.
>>566911227>I dont know why you think its differentI keep explaining it but you are being obtuse on purpose. >Poe1: craft the item itself using crafting currency>it's done>Poe2: craft the item itself using crafting currency>need to then purchase the appropriate runesYou could say runes are analogous to eldritch implicits which I'd grant, but eldritch currency is far less expensive. It's not an arbitrary distinction I'm making at all, you are trying to obfuscate and play ignorant. Both games have 6 affixes per item. So anything done in addition to those 6 affixes represents an additional step. Poe1 has eldritch implicits which are cheap. Poe2 has runes which are sometimes expensive.
>>566912487Might want to consider something that's>not nerfed into the ground or late starting>that you mesh with thematicallyMaybe start trying to sift through the archetypes and what you like, though also you should consider playing spells like ED/C or frostbolt
>>566912487you simply have to experiment more1
>>566912487ed/c, grenades, ember fusillade into djinn sorc are the "best" for clearing campaign
>>566912487just do crossbows, it has a suite of pretty solid clear build which matches your lightning spear/forb tastes
Lightning Spear is bad in Act 1. Then it shits on the rest of the game. It also good for a single target but you need a giga investment.
>>566912631cheap runes = eldritch implicitsexpensive runes = rolling for triple synth modspoe2 has it way better dont be retarded
>>566912487the game is bad. Just wait 2 years for the power creep to set in so it's actually less of a slog. You won't miss anything, maybe all the classes will be in by then
>>566913070nobody rolls regular item slots for synth mods, you do that for jewels
>>566912631>Both games have 6 affixes per item. So anything done in addition to those 6 affixes represents an additional step.So according to your definition, eldritch implicits aren't crafting. Harvest implicts aren't crafting. Adding quality isn't crafting. Vaaling isn't crafting. I hope you understand why that's a retarded arbitrary distinction. Runes are crafting.
>>566913319eldritch implicits are "crafting" in the same way runes are. Both can be overwritten. No one uses harvest implicits anymore so this is irrelevant. Quality is in both games so this is moot. Vaaling cannot be undone and is in both games.All you did was list a bunch of non sequiturs. Do better
>>566913583>Both can be overwrittenAnon, can bench crafts be overwritten?
>>566913319this is just harvest all over again. the only people who are upset are people who don't actually craft.
>>566913687It's a select few people who are boring and want the game to be boring, the bench has been replaced by real mechanics that require 0.00001% more effort and thought and to them it's the end of the world. Skill gems were moved off your gear so it makes sense in this case to use those sockets for something else.
Reminder!!!!
>>566911209big upgrade from that slamhog Bex
I will play tame a boss and I will like it.
>>566911365>>566915252this. explains le quirky retardposting on shitter
>>566915157There's nothing to debate, they fucked up. They know it, we know it, they know that we know it. The only thing we can do is wait and get the game we should have gotten 5 years from now. By then hopefully they will start leaking info about poe 3.
Picked up PoE2How much DPS am I supposed to have when I get to act 2 boss, Jamanra? My single target gem (firebolt) does 350 DPS. I dealt an unbroken stream of 38,000 damage and his HP only went down to 2/3 for god's sakeAm I retarded or is this retarded? Or both?
>>566916163TL;DR: Dreadnought and Jamanra are stat checks.Dreadnought checks if you have enough patience to wade through an endless sea of gap-closing high-damage enemies, some of which have like 50% block chance because fuck you.Jamanra is a test of patience.. And also Mana. You need so much fucking Mana to kill that fucker.>fireboltYou could at a minimum get a better Firebolt since that's implicit on your staff. A higher-level staff will have a higher-level skill.
>>566916418>You could at a minimum get a better Firebolt since that's implicit on your staff. A higher-level staff will have a higher-level skill.It's a level 8 one, it dropped in the area before himI got him eventually, didn't run out of mana flask, but holy fuck it just took forever. And I've felt on a few occasions like my single target damage is lacking (particularly against the abyss mobs). Should I be using a different spell for single target or what? Trying to go like an elemental caster, was planning to do an arc build initially
>>566916715In general, elemental spellcasting has debatable single-target in the first bit of leveling and smooths out around Act 4.
>>566915773the only people who think they fucked up are gigashitters and turbomazies.
I want more command skill damage nodes on the tree and gear
>>566916163Big Jam is the first real wall. It gets easier afterwards imo, you can actually make a real build and have currency to craft with.
>>566916715>>566916828ember fusillade
>>566916715Abyss mobs don't need single target they need some and you're best off avoiding abyss shenanigans until later. If I had to say the fastest way to increase single target on an elemental build, probably using the flamethrower skill, a curse, or comet. Hard to tell exactly what you're missing or going for imo, but getting a better staff is a good idea
>>566917160i always do a few runs through the dreadnaught before i fight him so i can get flasks with charge generation and gamba a new weapon.
is poe 1 or poe 2 a better game? I'm new to poe 2 and never played 1 but i'm wondering if it's worth playing
>>566917268I had meant to say abyss mobs typically need more AoE than single target, my bad if unclear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZm25jlsrSQour guy has posted
>>566917612rarity is the tax on tinkbrained divs-per-hour sissies
>>566917814
>>566907742Martial Artist is going to be broken as shit>flat added damage nodes convert to phys as extra X, easy 60-70% More damage in total>attack speed and crit will either double or change from Increased to More Easy 2-3x more damage from a single ascendancy pointnot to mention the absolutely heinously overpowered shit you can do by abusing the bellI feel sorry for anyone who rolls the Spirit Walker noobtrap ascendancy instead
>>566917814i hope they don't change it. there is enough misc rarity for the average build to get a healthy assortment of drops without overinvesting. builds that are investing in high rarity get more raw currency and uniques. negative rarity gets less raw currency and more crafting bases. it's a good system.
>>566917612What's GGG's excuse not to remove it again?
>>5669185461. they dont know what to replace it with2. you can now farm league mechanics for specific league mechanic stuff as if rarity doesnt affect currency drops high tier gear and high tier uniques all of which are the highest in currency farming, rarity on gear is a must have or you are losing out its just that simple and it makes specific builds not played because of it
>>566918546it's basically d2 style rarity. removing it would be an affront to god.
>>566911051>there is not a single part of Grim Dawn I remembernegative experiences get remembered the most, you fucking idiot
>Even alk is playing PoE 2 nowYep this is being astroturfed as fuck. GGG is paying them off confirmed.
I remember grim dawn being fun
The "hype" for Poo 2 is sooooo fake
>>566920218nah for some reason grim dawn is actually the most boring ARPG ever created. you know it's bad when redditors shill it. even diablo 3 is better. in fact, diablo 3 is good. it's still better than diablo 4.torchlight 2 > grim dawn
>>566918546Mainly that it's been low priority. They "know" it's a problem and that players hate being forced into builds that are OP and can tank dead mods on gear, but they don't have a solution and would rather work on core game systems instead. IMO the solution (get rid of it entirely and just buff drop rates for divs slightly or move rarity to map mods entirely) is simple but clearly they don't want the easier solution and would rather frankenstein up a multi-step replacement to IIR
>>566919929You lost doomsissy
There i fixed rarity wasnt that fucking hard call it the fucking rarity orb too you dumb fucks
>>566920582I wonder what it is about GGG that they can at least understand players want endgame content but somehow other ARPG devs can't into this idea
>>566920950Rarity simply should not work on currency, that is all
>>566920805fuck off shill
IMO if torchlight infinite would make a proper UI and didn't have the worst MTX I've ever seen it would be a very serviceable ARPG. but noooo it must be monetized to insane degrees. like seriously that shit is worse than gachas. hell it IS gacha. every game has gacha now. it's over.
>>566920998the others don't have a live service business modelno matter how good the endgame is, people still stop playing poe after a month or two, and they wouldn't come back without a bunch of new content
>>566920998Because those devs don't actually want to implement endgame content. They want players to buy the game, play enough to leave a good review, and then fuck off. They can come back and buy DLC, but that's it. People who play for longer are just added server expenses.
my debit card gets frozen easily. wish me luck im about to buy diablo 3. im assuming this shit is gonna lock up my card instantly cause blizzard is basically guaranteed to do it if anything would.
So many tencent mtx shills itt fucking disgusting
>>566921220>>566921756Gaped and screaming
>>566921735Why not just pirate Diablo 3? The game is rather ancient
>>566922235i dont even think u can lol. i think u can get the switch version which i heard is one of those unique console ports that is different in a good way.
My pastor says that pirating is wrong and if you do it you are subject to eternal damnation.
>>566920582didn't ask for your retarded gay opinion lol
torchlight infinite is better than diablo immortal.
D4 fans are afraid of PoE's unapologetic chudness
What am I playing in 0.5?
>>566923556cast on critical strike cometyour other build choices are mostly cosmetic
>>566923358Atziri's Atziris
I actually want to play poo2 but they're being greedy and not announcing/discounting the game, they should discount it right now and then discount again at launch
>>566921115if it didn't work on currency everyone would just run negative rarity
>>566923810I have a code if you want
>>566923941yeah, that would be cool, I dont own the game yet
2games1tub
>>566920521This time people are gaslighting themselves into liking in order to stomach the insane challenge grind. I bet even the most addicted and mazed retards will throw up at some point and burn out on the game. Good luck doing the campaign again the league after.
been having trouble shitting for like 3 days now and I think I have a fever right now, hopefully it'll pass on it's own
>>566924025post a temp email
>>566924785xdnuk7+7kndi75n7sny0@sharklasers.com
>>566924506pretty sure most people who play poe just fart around a bit after the campaign and then reroll to try something else or quit.
>level 99 with 65% expshould I keep mappingI'm getting bored now
>>566924892You should have stopped 80 levels ago.
>>566924506the campaign is 3.5 hours long sis
>>566924834>HE REDEEMED
do anons here actually like 0.5 or is it just blind drone behavior defending poe2 and ggg no matter what
>>566925293cry
>>566925293it's just zaccie and the alkcordtroons running damage control
>>566924785thank you very much dude, you actually came throughyou actually have to use the key in one website and then get another key to activate it on steam, but it does work, I only played the game during the 3 free days in 0.4pretty cool, thanks
>>566925293The main thing I wanted at the end of 0.3 (I took a break during 0.4) was an endgame rework because just aimlessly doing infinite atlas was boring.This is what I wanted, but its not like I didn't want more spells/new weapon types. I'm also honestly looking forward to patch notes/nerfs to see what changed, because the game is piss easy and 99% of builds culminating in CoC comet is boring
>>566925439>uuu huuu huuu huuuu uuuuu ^--- you crying
>>566925640you wouldn't need to spend so much time gaslighting on 4chan if poo2 was a good game
>>566925745post that again without crying
>>566925458Yeah I forgot to mention that.No worries m8, with the launch being the next update, no point holding onto my spare keys.
doing a multiworld randomizer with some friends and i've run into a problem: either i can continue playing templar SSF and unlock inquisitor mid-act 7, or i can reroll assassin/berserker now. worth swapping, or just keep pushing forward? pic shows currently available gems/supports (even if i'm still stuck at 2links + 1 3-link)
>>566925745i can think of at least 17 reasons why poe 2 is a good game.
>>5669258160.5 is bloat
>>566924506Heralds are honestly so much more fun than every other skill it's unfair, the absolute power gap of enjoyability between LA or some frost damage pops and the tragic shit like fragmentation shot is unreal.>>566925189Anon helping the community one new poo2 player at a time, we appreciate you anon.
>>566926052everything in poe1 is bloat, who cares?bloatmaxxing is fun
>>566926234>appeal to poop1that's a logical fallacy
>>566925923name 33
Too.Much.Clutter.
they are both good games, but poe2 is unfinished because it doesnt have endgame, which they are "fixing" this league, but then the game lacks more options for skills, support skills, weapon types and ascensions, which they have to finish, I think all of that should've be finished before launching 1.0
just ditch the poe2 endgame and return to 1 game 2 campaign format
>>566897120I read somewhere that bells will be great for flickerstrike
He just said on stream that PoE 2 has a much better foundation than PoE 1 for the future
>>566925853NTA but that was a really cool thing you did, man. Wish we had more people like you.
>>566927663flickerstrike is absolute dogshit in poe2. it's just awful. the animation time gets you killed all the time, it doesn't do a lot of damage and you can't really reliably keep on flickerstriking.all the videos about flickerstrike are bait, they are there to make the build look good but once you start playing it you'll see the glaring issues with it.
what is the current 0.4 status of rarity? are you still aiming for 100%?
>>566928006150% is where you stop, not 100%And they nerfed how much rarity you can get on gear affixes in 0.4 so its even more important now to have on every piece
>>566907208>reset ascendancy nowYes by doing the trials and de-ascending there >reset atlasyes>go play in standarddon't. once you reach act3 in the league you will be discouraged to continue because you played it in standard just 2 weeks ago
>>566928162Oh 150 is painful
>>566928556just run a gold charm and rarity where you can fit it in. a fast build is going to net you more currency in the long run.
>>566925293How can I like something I haven't tried?
>>566929002by watching the reveal stream, making an educated guess based on past experiences with the game and having an opinion of your own, you know just like any normal humanoh wait, you're a tranny though aren't you?damn, unlucky
>>566903738>>566904529this is 100% malebrained mancoded humorlily's whole brand of humor is 4chan adjacent incomprehensible-coded crapvery malebrained
... Why does the Trialmaster call Chaos 'they' instead of 'he' now
>>566930139because it's the current year (~1620 IC)
>>566930139can you provide a ss where the trialmaster refers to chaos as he/him?
>>566930365All his dialogues about him in PoE1>My master is the essence of all that might be. He is the flip of the coin, and he is the roll of the die. Whether you win or lose, his purpose is still served. And yet-your changes can be influenced by your skill, by your intellect, and by your might. That is what fascinates Chaos. Skilled mortals can bend their chances in their own favour, for in the headwinds of the unknown, the arrow of a master falls more assuredly than the arrow of a novice. Show him your mastery, and he will smile upon you. Surprise him with utmost talent, and he may even laugh. Fortune will rain upon those who bring humour to Chaos. >Feel his power!>My lord Chaos has often felt there is a sinister force lurking in the unknown mists of raw Creation that seeks to oppose him.
I feel like I thrive in the late economy. Started Mirage last Thursday evening, blitzed Betrayal for Veiled Exalts to sell. Already got to lvl 99 and dumped ~250 divs into this ele hit Slayer, and finished 40/40. Build was crazy comfy.Game recs to pass the time until 0.5? No point & click war/strategy games.
JONATROON
>>566931263Diablo 4
Has it been confirmed that every boss is possible to take as a companion?
Really hope they fix the shader cache bullshit in time for 1.0.Why do I have to recompile the entire fucking game once a day? Between the first title screen of the day, loading into town, loading the map device, first 1 or 2 map loading screens, It's like a combined 5-10 minutes of picrelated before I can play the game.I've done everything. Reinstalling the game, Nvidia control panel cache size adjustment, and deleting the shader cache several times (before and after the previous steps).
>>566931258seems like it was retconned or expanded when they added ultimatum to the core game. the wiki has ggg referring to him as they
>>566931527No troonslop either, pl0x
>>566932070You're in the Poe general lil gupgup
>>566932070ffxiv free2play
actiblizzdrones need to fuck off with their scams
>>566932432Only scam here is Poo2 ea
>>566931258well then it's either dei sloppification of poe2 which is to be expected with how much dei woke garbage there is in the game or it's some lore related shit that has been changed or updated.regardless it's retarded either way because chaos should be address as it as it is an entity and not a real human
>>566933173they changed him to they before poe 2
>>566933274yes, we've established this, retardwhat I was saying is that no matter the reason, it's dumb because chaos shouldn't have been referred to as him or any other gender in the first place as chaos is not a human person.retard
>>566930139Path of Trooning 2 by Johnatroon is a queer game
PoE 2 is WOKE
>managed to fix d4s memory leakits fun lads in a id buy it for 10 bucks play it until poe has another league fun
>>566933971They're just using PoE 1 to beta test before the end its service after PoE 2 Release.
>>566934105
>>566933441so why are you crying about poe2 and dei? or are you one of those people that thinks the singular they is some tranny slop invented in the last 10 years?
>>566933725it only costs £1 for a 14 day premium gamepass trial that's all the D4 time anyone should ever need
>>566931905it's every "beast" boss. check poe2db to find out which ones that means.
>>566934528truei am looking forward to 0.5hopefuly finally learning most of endgame
most d4 streamers are going to be playing 0.5 when it comes out, what will the doomers point to then?
poe 1 worth playing even though development has moved to poe 2?
>>566934762Paid streamers will play the next game they're paid to stream. Imagine my surprise.
>>566902678Send this to Jonathan and his team
>>566934618Endgame gonna change completely, biggest patch ever didn't you heard the news?
>>566935167i even saw it with me own eyes
/poeg7 1 year agohow have things changed?https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/535982402/
>>566935115PoE 1 is the better game overall. That might change in 6-12 months for PoE 2, but in its current state it's awful. Slow, boring and tedious.
>>566896703just dial a build broit ain't that hard
gimme the pre-RF staff build cruising through everything
>>566935946it's /poeg/ nothing really changes, it's a madlibs general> ____ is such a fucking retard, why is ____ still ____ game?>will they finally ___ to ___ or will we have to ____ for the ____ league in a row?>___chads i kneel>i want to ___ lilys ___
>>566936626>>i want to ___ lilys ___YES
>>566935946Its funny because like half the posts then were mine
how many poo1 & 2 updates between each d4 expansion?
>>566925293Didn't like 0.5, didn't like 0.4, didn't like 0.3. This is a 3.(whatever the last poe1 league was) general>>566935946All the posts are basically the same lmao
Anons how do you tuff out the league start? I cannot for the life of me go through all the acts ever again... I've done it like a billion times at this pointIt actually hinders my enjoyment of the game
>>566936825practice delayed gratification.
>>566936754>blizzard is still going to milk their player base on $50 expansionslmao
>>566902678Honestly, the devs should just drop the deadweight that is m*lee. Literally nobody wants to play it, and the contrarians that pretend they do don't even play the game.
>>566917612The only based poe e-celeb.
STILL NO WWBROOOOOOOO
>>566902678minions only make sense in a slower game with more ability to control areas. such as guild wars 1, which just got a remaster
Remember when they reversed the order of tiers of affix mods (tier 1 was the lowest tier)
>>566916715jamanra takes unusually long for almost every build in the game. as other anon said, use ember fusillade.
Got to the bit where you drain the city, it's getting kinda boringMobs have too much HP and I can't find a way to pump my single target damage any moreHope they fix this shit in the next patch otherwise I've just wasted 45 ausbucks
>>566936825why not? it's a fun game
>>566937793no but it's unironically the worst fucking thingHIGH NUMBER = GOOD is a design principle i stand behind
you know what? she alright
>>566938023Its not a design principle tho, its just how you present info, and in a game where every mod has a different amount of tiers, making it understandable that lowest is the msot desirable simply makes sense
>1 week until patch notes
>>566938097that's backwards imofix the differing tiers
>>566928162Partycucks stay winning
>>566938097from a logistics standpoint it makes sense to flip them, especially staring down the barrel of 10+ years of powercreep. want to buff something, just stick another tier on it.but jesus christ that shit was so fucking gay and retarded>ohhh tier 7 life, wait is that affix t1-t9? or t1-t7? is t7 the best tier? let me check poedb.
>>566934439listen gupta rakesh, you clearly lack reading comprehension, why are you here replying to normal people?
>>566938517That shit had me so confused for so long because life has way higher values on gear in poe 2 than poe 1 so i assumed my life rolls were really good (coming from poe 1) when in reality they were trash
>>566925293I don't care about druids so it was same as 0.4 for me, the interlude it's not bad.
>>566925293listeni play every league for between 20-30 hours, usually do one character to endgame and a second character to see what a build feels likeit's a great gameonce i run out of classes to try i will probably stop playing
>>566931263>I feel like I thrive in the late economy.Honestly the new asynchronous trade made the late economy extremely comfy. Shit just getting cheaper instead of shooting up into infinity.
>>566939105>20-30 hoursthats what I do in the first 2 days
>>566939563i am employed and i save my vacation for games i like better. and family events
>>566931949For me its thr video driver dying.Only happens in poop2
>>566938765>it's either A or Bit was B>yeah i know it was B. i'm not smart enough to understand white people, please forgive me.
I'm really struggling to find a playstyle I like the sound of and when I look at builds online it overwhelms me and makes me want to stop. maybe I don't have the brain for this game
>>566935167it'll be the same mechanics but the extra structure and atlas tree filling-in should help a lot.
>>566939854i felt the same when i tried poe1 ages agodon't use a guide and just click on things that sound goodyou will probably have more fun
>>566939757same, happens consistently on different pc's with 3070 and 5070ti even when running different driver versions, as soon as i try using skill with lots of visual effects on projectiles it fucking dies within 2 or 3 maps, no matter what settings i have in the options
>>566939563actually i checked and i have 210 hours so it's more like 40-50 hours give or take, not counting leaving the game on for a while
>>566939706I am also employed. I can easily play 40h per week on top of my 40h wagie job and this includes lifting weights 3-4 per week. Learn to min/max your time. No one needs several hour long mental health walks or whatever you normies do lol
>>566896561>more builder spender bullshit
>>566937793what it needs is to say how good the current mod is relative to the best possible version of that mod that could roll on the item. everything else is better left to poe2db
>>566939808>i'm not smart enoughmany are saying this
>>566939985>be into fitness>underrate the value of walksmany such cases
>>566939985didn't ask for unsolicited preachy bullshit from a retard on the internet
>>566896561>skills tied on ascendenciesgrim
>>566896561>power chargesthrow it into the nearest garbage bin
>>566940094i do all my best thinking while walking
>>566940164literally one of the best things about poe2. gives ascendencies real unique playstyles.
>>566940121yes you did. time management is something your parents should have thought you but they clearly fucked it up. you are welcome
>>566940121>discord/twitter reaction gifYikes!
>>5669252930.5 has some undisputed upsides (new bosses, new content, new items, more juicing, possibly a fresh meta if they rebalance things a bit)However I think the endgame "rework" isn't much of a rework and that anyone who didn't already enjoy the endgame will not get much more out of this version either. It's the same thing with more content and more linearity.I'm hyped to play personally cuz I don't need much to be hyped, but I'm also disappointed that there were no new classes. I want to play new skills more than I want endgame changes.
I think I'm league starting a monk. What are the best tactics for leveling?
>>566940267again, this is pure fantasyi am not playing less because i have poor time management, which you just made up because you needed something to attack, seeminglyi am playing less because i get bored
>>566940318FGkorbyn has a pretty good a1 guide, and honestly A1 is the pain point for monks, it gets easier later. So I'd look at that and maybe do a practice run.
I want to make a Periphery build so badly. And I get the feeling it's gonna be affordable as well, since everyone's gonna spam the Ritual boss to farm the companion scepter. But I can't exactly start it. So here's hoping Wyvern won't get nerfed into the ground so I can start as that until I can respec.
>>566940318>>566940432its very much like huntress in that people who think its bad do so entirely because of first impressions.
>league start practice without patch noteswhat in the actual nig are these people doing
>>566940403What makes someone who barely enjoys the game decide to go to its 4chan general?
can 0.5 really be considered an end game rework? I admit that they added bosses for existing mechanics but what exactly changed from a game play loop perspective?we're still doing mindless infinite atlas. I just don't get the excitement.
>>566940740idk I was sperging out about this in the previous thread. I honestly just think they're getting money under the table from ggg to keep the interest somewhat alive
>>566940403>i am playing less because i get boredshort attention span. your parents missed your adhd. dayum son
>>566940081it can be hard to decipher doomtroon seething, please be patient.
>>566940740Streamers? Farming views to profit off the announcement hype.Anyone else? Dunno, man. Being fucking mazed to this degree is just tragic.
>>566940403retard
>>566940662Monk is a bit bad/clunky on its own in A1, but it's good if you mix it up a bit (e.g. add wyvern). Adding wyvern power charge gen makes it rape, and it's not as goofy to play as locus.
there is not a single fun skill in poe2.fact.
>>566940780Fun haters need not apply
>>566940780the gameplay loop hasn't changed in 25 years
anyone else think druid is the most boring class they've made?
>>566941676Deadeye exists
>>566941676Mercenary exists
>>566941676The ascendancies are cool, talisman skills are underwhelming
>>566941708I mean DE wasn't boring originally, they changed it and made it boring.
Is necro minion the only comfy starter
>there's nothing wrong with the campaign literally one week later>wowee, these changes to the campaign are brilliant
>>566941938Minion Warlock is alright also
>>566941997I will say this
>>566941676I like the theming but not the skills. And I like the idea of the skills but not the way they work.
>>566941997THEYCOOKED
>>566941997Those arent the same people
>want to buy a pass to post faster on launch>payment site giving me a not found on multiple browsershiroooo????? i just wanna comfy post in poeg on 0.5 release fuck you
>>566941997Those are the same people
all me by the way
oh my fucking god I forgot what a fucking slog poe2 is holy fuckI move so fucking slow what the fuck, and my attacks oh my lordy what the helly.how can anyone play this jesus.
>>566943038d4
>>566941794>they changed it and made it less comically op
>>566943038Press space then hold it, it will cause you to sprintIf thats too annoying put talisman on second weapon swap and use wolf form for 30% extra move speed
>>566942732(me)
>>566941997weird to hear that apparently people had trouble finding the seals in the Valley of the Titans. it's the biggest change. >>566943038we hold down the spacebar
>>566943243>>566943334yeah yeah I know about sprint but I'm talking while in combat, I'm playing ww twister because all the streamermen are playing it and oh my gee it's so slowwwwI saw it becomes faster and faster but why can't it be playable from lvl 1. I stopped at level 5, I just can't
>>566943534>. I stopped at level 5, I just can'tLmao
>why aren't I zooming through maps 1 shotting everything yet>I stopped at level 5poo1 players everyone
>>566917612>>566917814>>566918381>>566918546Browns, get the fuck out
>>566943641>t. chinese RMT bot farmer
>>566941997Both me, there was nothing wrong and now it's even better
>>566925293I don't like poe2s moment to moment gameplay so nothing they add short of reworking animation speeds and combat flow is going to interest me. It wears thin after a few hrs of rollslop
>>566943587>don't want to be a slow retarded stupid piece of shit at level 5>OMG HE WANTS TO TELEPORT AROUND AT LEVEL 5 AND ONE SHOT 3 CAMPAIGN ZONES AT ONCEnice strawman faggot, that's why no one is taking poop2 fags seriously, you're all just caricatures
>>566941676Yeah, they dropped the ball worst fucking nature skills I've ever seen. The transformation shit is really restrictive too
Did they nef wyvern
>>566944289Yes, I did.
>>566944289shits gonna go extinct again
>>566944289come back in a week
>>566925293Everything about the infinite atlas is exactly what I wanted.>blind drone behavior defending poe2 and ggg no matter whatI really don't think the average POE player has any brand loyalty. It's not like Blizzard faggots who'll eat any crap they shit out. GGG just makes this particular type of crack that no one else makes so people simply have no choice.
>D4 comes out>It's ass>Slowly becomes more like D3>Becomes good>PoE 2 comes out>It's ass>Slowly becomes more like PoE 1>Becomes goodI'm noticing a pattern here.
>>566944289We don't knowBut really we do know alreadyIf it's a non-ranged skill that was played last league it's gonna get nerfed as is GGG's mantra
>>566925293This >>566944909 kek. Nigger you come here where people literally shit all over poe2 or any mistake GGG makes, and think there is even a hint of drone behavior defending GGG? lol?
>>566945038Issue is rend was used as a movement skill
>>566945080>Taking slopgpts word
>>566945241nerfed
>>566945028Stop noticing
>>566940432>>566941051Fuck it. I'm doing monk the clunky and painful way, but I'm not touching anything shapeshifting.
>>566945080really comes down to when you want a 1 button build and why you want it. >i want to minmax my god build so i can 1 button farm for 8 hours straightisn't the same as>everything should die instantly from the first zombie to the last boss. and why are wolves so fast?
>>566945440I... I must notice...
so why are they not updating the UI for PoE2? it basically uses the same icons and texture style from poe1 beta from 13 years ago it's so ugly, especially when plasted on top of shiny new graphics of poe 2
>>566946456What are you talking about
>>566946434stop it bro. its not healthy
Did they make rolling slam worse? I don't remember taking so many steps before starting your first swing.
>>566946891maces are complete dogshit, stop trying to make them work
Diablo 4s endgame is supr confusing jfc
>>566947090Smartest poobro
>>566947090d4 is an objectively better and more difficult game. this is just factual and that's why poopers never engage with this argument they just sperg out and deflect.there is not a single difficult thing in poe1/2 while in d4 there are numerous core systems that actually challenge your build and character.
>>566947090you have like 7 endgame activities that you pick in war plans, but they feel so same-ish that it just all blurs in to endless boring smudge after a little bit, i have zero feel of any progression in d4, just instantly bored
poo1 = D2 > D4 >>>>>> D3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poo2
>>566945028Old, goodNew, bad
For me, it's PoE2
>>566947371>just one > between D2 and D4Worthless post.
not a single person who ranks d2 among the top ARPGs actually plays it, it's a histortical gimme like calling tetris the greatest game of all time or some shit, just a vapid and meaningless opinion
>>566947316they never came up with something original for their league or endgame activities. its all pretty much helltides but in red/blue/green/violet depending on the league. dungeon related content is pretty much grifts from d3.
The problem with any ARPG is that its made for autistics by autistics. No one will ever be happy with the results, whatever they are.
>>566947683TRVKE
d4 = poo2 > grim dawn >> poe1 >> rest
>>566947753>made for autistics by autisticsthat WAS the case with many oldschool onesnow it's devs who try to replicate previous successes, but not autistic enough and they're catering to as wide audience as possible instead of autists
Chronicon best arpg, you're just too blinded by it's ugliness to see it
Did GGG listen to me?
>>566878375They just added unique prices to poe ninjahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inkv6pJvQ0
>>566943983Show me a clip of a fast melee character at lvl 5 in poo1
>>566948480literally who?
>>566946548y iz dey not makinx nyu iconz fo poe2 and shizz is it understandable now, monkey?
>>566948817You have shield charge at that point. A1 chars can go very fast with shield charge+momentum and an attack speed roll or gloves somewhere.Also poe1 chars have quicksilver which works better with "attack and move" than sprint does.
just bought d4 expansion. w/e nerds
>>566949280LOl retard
>>566949208All the icons are diffrent, fix your visionAnd icons arent UI, dumb ape
>>566949280gross
>>566949236honestly poe2 is just a more enjoyable experience at low levels. poe1 with shield charge and quicksilver https://www.youtube.com/live/_oKACflnJGk?si=IZeqgUsvwa1GZIv9&t=591vs poop2 sprinthttps://youtu.be/Jla2a4H8XKI?t=331
sprint feels like doodoo on innocence
>>566939998Martial Artist lets you skip builder spender bullshit, thougheverbeit. Instead of having to cull, shock, ignite, or stun an enemy, just let your bells do it for you.
>>5669501541 maybe 2 power charges if you're lucky every 6 seconds. yeah it's so good brolmao
>>566950302Why on you so hyper-focused on the worst node in his ascendancy tree that no one will ever take? This is like getting mad at Pathfinder because Fulminating Concoction is worthless.
how is d4 STILL poping off so hard so many days later? there's not even a season mechanic what the deuce
>>566950714Quality over quantityPoo shits out quantity with little qualityDiablo 4 has the classic Blizzard polish they have on all their games. Its just a delightful experience
>>5669507143 /d4g/ threads in the last 50 days on /vm/i think we will make it back to /vg/ soon.
>>566949465icons are part of UI you colossal retard they are basically the same shit, doesn't look that much improved or worthy of a sequel at all
>>566949981I'm kind of torn myself, I like POE1 very fast-paced 2 movement skill movement, and skills feeling snappy and punchy (like sunder), but I also really like the way itemization feels in POE2, your gear matters right from Clearfell and makes a sizeable impact on how strong your character is. POE1 is almost gear-agnostic, it's too figure out and you can wear whatever, in POE2 every affix line matters early on.
>>566950928Where you place the icons are UI. The icons themselves arent UIYou dont even know what the hell you're talking about, dont reply to me again
>>566950714It's just the best game on the market
>>566951432many are saying this
>>566951097the only affix that matters early on in poe2 is +gem levels
>>566951642incidentally this is also the only affix that matters later on
>>566925293New content good. But kinda too much of bloat. Endgame is the same endgame once you done with the quest. Quests itself gonna be tedious piece of shit until they patch it. C****ign still unskipable. So... I dunno
>>566948141chronicon is just diablo 3 with a slightly less retarded endgameand anyone who likes diablo 3 or its clones is dumb as fuck
>>566950849>Diablo 4 has the classic Blizzard polish they have on all their games. Its just a delightful experienceKek, I know you mean nothing of this.Insane how low blizz has fallen from the times where people unironically said this.
>>566925293I have a weird feeling. I'll probably do one character and then go spend my summer somewhere.
replaying the campaign to see what build i want for the 0.5 update, i must admit the vaal incursion temple is pretty fun when you just randomly place the squares and go in when its open during the campaign
>>566952479Agreed, but it drops 0 loot unless you abuse mechanics, which is unfortunate.
>>566952353>Insane how low blizz has fallen from the times where people unironically said this.Its still true
>>566951097>>566951642Arguably it matters too much, not getting shoes with movespeed or a weapon/ammy with gem levels makes you feel anemic
>>566952546when you say loot do you mean divines? because its dropping good rares and currency other than that for me that i need
>>566949981that speedrun is honestly a good measurement for act lengtheven without trial, a2 took longer than I expected. a1 really is the only one that doesn't feel like a slog.
>>566952703"good rares" stops being a thing when you're in act 3, lil gup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inkv6pJvQ0It's up
>>566953332not in SSF they dont
>>566951642That just isn't true, the difference between a level 1 staff, and a level 1 staff and level 1 gloves with flat damage is like 100%. Later on the stats fall out of whack, but early on the balance is pristine. Even shitty mods like mana regen on rings are helpful.>>566952697It should matter. Gear not mattering sucks and isn't engaging. Gear/loot should matter, and this part is something they got right in the sea of things they got wrong.
>hm, gonna craft me a better elemental crossbow with this 30ex essence for leveling>slam a few ex on it and desecrate>hm, the dps are not convincing, I'm sure I saw better ones for cheap on the market>sell the crossbow>check market>it had one of the best dps for that level range
>>566953478>temporalis>26k divinesholy fuck im glad i got it last league for 48 divines for the upcoming transmog when its implemented into the game
>>566953913>transmogis that what Lily does to real women?
I would pay inordinate sums of money for new leagues banning streaming and youtube content for a period. From coming up with """clever use of game mechanics""" for harvesting 900div/h two days into the league to having dogshit retarded opinions their viewers don't have the cognitive capacity challenge on any level and end up regurgitating in every community, the root of every one of PoE's problems is streamers. Every league these faggots, who sit on multiple mirrors three days in, have the testicles to complain about lack of drops and their parasocial hordes haven't the facilities to think beyond the tink-induced-dopamine hits. Devs are overwhelmed by bullshit complaints and are forced to make changes they know will have severe downstream effects. Those downstream effects are eventually felt by the hordes. The horde complaints. The cycle repeats. We went from getting a drop every several maps, if that, early in PoE1's cycle to now having Youtubers complain when they don't get a drop literally 5 seconds into a map. In another 5 years if we don't get a tink every other white we'll be pissing and moaning and in another 10 the playerbase will have such fried receptors there isn't a volume of loot GGG could drop to satisfy us.I'd prefer it were different. Darth is a great creator and there are several other streamers who sit on PoE that I enjoy watching, but unless people like Fubgun and that weaselly rat fuck Empyrian just die (in-game of course) PoE will not last another half a decade.
>atziris contempt isnt 15d its 10ccooking?! I wrote it off but now I know my starter
is the game still struggling hitting the attribute requirements for gems and gears last time I check I can't balance out my resistance and attributes just to hit level 20 supports or so
>>566954429how long does it take to get to atziri and how much will it be on launch?
is it really that easy? wtf
>>566954767Yeah. MonkChads have been top-tier in every single patch. Just make sure to play Talismans in act 1 because staves have a rough early start.
>>566954767>make no mistakesI know you're taking the piss, but it's amusing the amount of people who think supplying a machine the facts it needs to work can be substituted by just demanding it do better
>>566954230no, a transmog is the act of looking so normal that a tranny next to you get passively mogged
>>566955086@grok is this true? Do not lie.
>>566955009So do Talismans, lol.As do maces and spells.
>>566955086it works in the real world. shit gets done once you use your big boy voice.
i don't want to have to do the campaign againjust let me grind maps from level 1........... plz.......
>>566955142Qstaves are worse than all of those in act 1. You just have frozen locus memes which deal less DPS than basic attack. Meanwhile Bear is innately tanky as fuck due to its armor passive and gets free rage on basic attacks so you can just safely basic attack without fear of dying, plus Wolf form gets good early. Spells have ED Contagion. Mace is a basic attack simulator like Qstaves but at least you have armor which is way better than ES/EV in act 1.
>>566955350Play D4, poo2 is dead
builds im interested in>Chayula monk into Chayula secret ascendancy darkness scaling whirling assualt>martial artist ice strike herald stacking >disciple of verashta with RF sceptre>disciple of vershta plants>lich with the coil wand>Spirit walker owl projectile fuckery
>>566955734What build do Mint mains play?
>>566955734I thought about doing an owl build too but having to dodge roll to activate seems like it would get tedious
>>566955142Nah talismans are fine. And spells you can play safe with.
>>566955734Chayula is raped&gaped after the assassination of Leech by the cowards Jonathan Rogers and Mark Roberts
>>566955501>Bear is innately tanky as fuck due to its armor passiveYou know literally nothing. Bear gets slapped down into the ground with its oversized hitbox.
>>566955734>darkness scalingYou literally can't scale darkness, which is part of the reason it's bad. You get your 10 per level plus whatever from your capped chaos res and that's it.
>>566955862Twister obviously
Is this the single most broken ascendancy point ever made?
>>566956197Will get raped and gaped in the patch notes simply due to the amount of streamers creaming over this
>>566956197That's not Hulking Form.
>>566956197Prolly the best ascendancy node in the game (if it stays like that and they dont pre-nerf it), the smith of kitava max res node is up there aswell
For 20 dollars I level your character to maps.
>>566956197>It works on unique items too
>>566956197i bet this will only work if you go for unarmed keystone only i fucking bet you this change will happen
>>566956197Wait, why did the requirement level drop from 75 to 60?
>>566956626>Enemies are immobilized at 25% buildupImagine the broken as fuck Freeze/Electrocute builds
>>566956197I'm interested in seeing what they'll do for uniques. But yeah, it's nutty.
>>566956807wasnt those gloves expensive as fuck from the corrputed zones?
I want to play poe but I know if I start now I’ll burn out before 0.5
>>56695693210 divs isn't that badit's no Temporalis
>>566956762Rare level reqs are determined by mod tier, the stonefists probably have technically lower tiers. Or maybe they just remove all the reqs and set it to your level so that they don't have to worry about converting it all on the new mods.
>>566956197>triples defenses on one piece of gearNot bad>max res at a trade off of res rollPretty good>Conditional Life if CritMeh>Damage as extraThe thing is, it depends. I feel like this will usually result in more damage but depending on the staff you were already getting a lot of damage to begin with because of the glove damage being local bonuses. Of course, not having to roll lightning is pretty good though.
>>566956840If they don't do something unique with Thunderfist then they're retarded desu.
>Unique item inside a rune inside a unique item with an alternative modifier and monk node which further modifies that modifierThat's why updates take half a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-Stn-lrzIHES DOING IT
Poo2 should eventually let me have Martial Artist's glove and rune nodes, Shaman's rune node and Oracle's hidden passives node.
cringe
>>566957373>all the normies are going to jack up my minion item pricesIt's over.
>>566956762>>566957142That's not all, they dropped the attribute requirements entirely so you can run pretty much any pair you want as long as you're at the right level.>>566955734>Disciple PlantsWhy? What bonuses do you even get?>>566956026Even at the theoretical limit of 2000 darkness from level 1000 and 85% chaos res, I'd still say it's pretty shit. No spirit for two thousand energy shield that doesn't actually give much else? Tragic
>>566957440Not mine, I'll probably play Yiff Tactician
>>566957290There's a bunch that could be cool. Maybe Treefinger becomes +% str, maybe Acuity does something completely different since they're removing instant leech, maybe howa becomes the unnerfed version.
>>566957482>Why? What bonuses do you even get?It's a very meta leaguestarter build already, it basically wipes the campaign with 0 gear requirements. Plants clear trash easily, djinn's are good for bossing.
>>566957661howa will stay the same except cold dmg instead of lightning, screenshot this
>>566957661They said the node isn't going to interact with most unique affixes. Don't count on it doing anything interesting unless it's an item that's specifically monk themed.
>>566957731but how do you scale it when djinns scale with minion and plants with spell damage?
>>566957661>>566957756They hate attribute stackers so much I'm not entirely sure howa will ever come back
>>566957373I will tame bosses.
>>566957820>They said the node isn't going to interact with most unique affixesDidn't they say the opposite? It will affect the modifiers of unique items, but not the active abilities they grant.
What seems like the best skill to proc bells for reduced duration Hollow Focus? It seems like getting a bell every 0.1sec doesn't seem too hard but then you also only have 0.1sec to actually hit them.
>>566957820Did they? I thought they said it would, otherwise what's the point?
>>566957089im probably thinking about it when they just come out they were 100s of divines due to a specific build maybe?
>>566957951They said it will affect the modifiers, but not the unqiue ones. ie it will do what it does with res normally but the unscalable unique affixes will be unmodified.But they also hedged and specifically mentioned that there might be some where that isn't the case, which is why I said monk themed uniques might get changes. ie Thunderfist, maybe HoWa etc.
>>566957970Is there anything worth putting into hollow form so that it hits bells automatically?
>>566956026hopefully ggg buffs the ascendancy looks kino from the aesthetics
>>566957837idk looking at existing builds it seems like people just scale plant damage for campaign, I guess the djinn does enough damage as is
>>566957482>Why? What bonuses do you even get?i was thinking pure water djinn and going crit
Can we please stop talking about a game that none of us want to actually play? I get the morbid curiosity angle, but it's time to just let it die already.
i am playing swtor until 0.5
>>566958637Agreed. D4fags OUT
>Morbid curiosity about D4Lol no.
>>566955864wouldnt rolling happen passively as you map? >>566955903>>566956026didnt ggg say they were buffing this ascendancy or do you think the secret one is the better version of it?
Chayula ascend is getting an alt version like Abyssal Lich?
>>566957631Is the dog ai good enough to main dogs?
>>566958917They didn't say shit but buffing chalupa is a given considering it's absolute dogshit currently and they're nerfing leech which is the only thing it has going for it.
>>566958917Jon made it sound like it was just an extra node, not a full alternate like lich. I'm not getting my hopes up too much. Maybe if they buffed the existing stuff, especially the leech since that's getting gutted across the board.
>>566956043I love women so god damn much its unreal
>>566959139that's a man
>>566959061thats what i thought as well>>566959136im still confused about the explanation they gave for new leech when talking to ziggy
>>566959056When you have like 20 dogs it hardly matters, but mostly yeah. When they have onslaught as frequently as they should have because of the passive tree then more or less they work.
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>>566958917>Didn't GGG say they were "buffing" this ascendancyThey've been speaking about buffing Chalupa ever since 0.1 and not a single buff has worked out enough to make it a good ascendancy, at the end of the day darkness is 2 dead notables masquerading as added tankiness, when CI is so good the +10 max chaos res hardly matters, and you're left with Volatile (incredibly mid), Remnants (terrible gameplay), and the meme skill that is the blackhole dodge. It needs a full rework probably>>566959425Basically instead of leeching from every single hit you deal, you can only leech from one source, the highest source, at a given moment. And leech amount is still capped to what you can recover at your leech rate during the duration of leech. So for tldr;>past a certain point more damage does not mean more leech>can only have one source of active leech at a time, your highest hit>the amount you leech can be buffed by the skill tree but is still limitedAll of this because of Amazon and Ranger leech shenanigans making them unkillable btw
>pc almost explode because of a divine shrine
>>566959425My understanding of it is: Only the biggest hit/leech at any given point will affect you. So slower big hits will heal more than quick small hits. On top of that, the damage numbers used in the calculations is getting hard capped at a certain amount, so in the late game you'll need to get more leech if you want more healing, rather than just pumping up your dps.
>leech getting the DoT treatmentJonatroon just can't help himself, eh
jontron won
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>>566959867>>566959843so leech is kinda like ignite with big hits magnitute the size of the ignite but now for leech and you cant do multiple sources of leech just the 1 big hit alone is that right? >>566959843so what does darkness do exactly? if its so bad and what should they do to fix it? because ive always just seen the build from afar and people saying it still needs work has put me off from trying it
Leech is a timeless tradition from the golden days of D2 why the fuck does Jonatroon keep fucking with it?
>>566960149>so what does darkness do exactly? if its so bad and what should they do to fix it?It's Sorcery Ward except taking the node reserves 100% of your spirit and it also literally doesn't scale with anything except your level and your capped Chaos res.So in other words it's sorcery ward if sorcery ward was shit.
>>566959434neat i'll look into it
They should bring back Mercenaries and let Tactician spec into having a full group of them.
>>566960113we already knowFAG
>>566960149You can basically think of it as ES that will regen the damage taken 5 seconds afterward. So if you're always taking damage, just divide your amount of darkness by 5 and that's how much regen you're essentially getting. At bosses it's essentially an extra buffer to not get one shot.
>>566960210it destroys the Dark Souls gameplaywhite monsters can't pose a challenge when you can instantly leech up any damage they deal to you
>>566960149Pretty much yes on leech. As for Dorkness, it's basically an overshield for your ES and Life, like the opposite of the new Ward, it starts at 100 and can be scaled up to roughly 2000 with investment, maybe a bit higher, but effectively it "reserves" when you get hit, and it gets back all the reservation after 5 seconds of not reserving any darkness.Unfortunately, darkness eats all your spirit to run and while you can cheese yourself some support spirit reservations on remnants, you generally can't run reservations unless they're on gear with darkness.Darkness used to have a side upgrade that gave added chaos damage per unresolved darkness but this got removed in the "buff" to Chayula instead of being folded into the darkness notables like it should have been.Consider the tradeoff, absolutely 0 spirit for 1000 base energy shield that can only be scaled up to 2000 max by running 85% chaos resistance. Meanwhile Koom's plate gives 1500 life in exchange for no spirit and this can be increased via soul cores (increased health), the passive tree, and the titan notable. It's a really bad tradeoff
After playing every class in maps, some multiple times, I can say that it's crossbow. From now on, I want everyone to stop playing crossbow, because this is my weapon now, and I want it to be super secret and only I should know about it.
>>566960210fucking with leech is a timeless tradition
>>566960853I'll play grenade launchers then
>>566960210leech is just ridiculously OP. in d2 and poe1, you need a fraction of a percentage of leech to become a regen god. you don't need to invest SHIT into leech for it to be strong.what I don't understand is, why do they still tie leech power to your damage dealt instead of max HP.
>>566961178Allegedly they capped leech with a fixed numbers aswell (not to your HP but just like, maximum 200 per second or something like this)Effectively they jsut turned leech into poe 1 leech
tfw can't test anything because late patch notes
oh my GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD this is so fucking boring and exhausting who the fuck enjoys playing this fucking game hooooooooooooly shit fuck off why is everything so fucking sloowwwwwwwwwwwwwww fuck you jonatroon you dumb fat faggot I hate you so god damn much
>>566960975Excellent. With that, crossbows and grenade launchers are now taken. Sorry other anons, but that's just how it goes.
Is shock too good?Should it be tubbed?
>>566960853>CrossbowsWhat do you even enjoy about these? How are they fun? Every singular crossbow skill is the clunkiest nonsense to ever exist
>>566961283doesn't every single build reach that number with 0,1% leech?>>566961465shock is the only elemental ailment that does something for you without investing into it, so yes, it's way too good in my opinion.
>>566961465Honestly shock is good because ailment effect is easy to grab and because crit guarantees shock so more or less you don't need shock chance at all
>>566961367>ughhh.jpgsure buddy
>>566957951>>566958248They said they would have to examine each item separately and didn't give a definite answer
>>566961367it's such a kino game the 29th can't come soon enough
>>566961743what are you implying retard
>>566961536feeling like a tactical commando is what does it for me. the animations are pure sex. also, I have invested over 1k hours into synthetik.
patch notes wheni dont want to start as LAi dont want to use cont ed i
>>566962361lightning spear it is
>>566962439reeeee
>>566962361>he still starts as LA2024 called, asking why you are not dead yet
why does Giant's Blood only affect specific weaponsI want to dual wield grenade launchers
>>566962439Can I have an OK time with this skill in the campaign if I don't want to generate the charges?
>>566962506i said i do NOT want to start as LA as i did that 0.1-0.3
What's the absolutely fastest twink/alt setup I can make in 3.28?I still have time to try a last build before 0.5
>>566962612Each skill requires additional setup to work with two weapons.
>>566962901jungroans shit, i think it requires a specific watcher eye mod and involves kinetic fusillade
>>566962983oh and poets pen
H A R D
>leaguestart as pure Stag build meleeSpirit Walker>let the streamers and Redditors test the unique bosses node for me>respec if the general consensus is that unique bosses are OPIs this a retarded idea? Am I leaguestarting a bricked build?
rate my combo
>>566962105>over 1k hours into synthetikYeah, that'll do it. Enjoying Synthetik 2?
>>566963194find a pic with more talent.
>>566962636ah, I misunderstood your problem then. I thought that you believe LA start is the current meta to reach maps fast.in that case, I have a solution for your problem: pick anything but LA. glad I could help.
>>566963304
>>566963249>game lets you use a full skill bar with no penalty>retards still run 2 button builds like they're playing poo 1
>>566963580is this jawline achievable natty?
>>566963694>no penaltypressing buttons unduly is a penalty
poe 2 will never go anywhere because the playerbase just wants poe 1 one button bing bing wahoo zoom zoom but with better graphics
>>566963287got it 2 years ago and tried it once, was good but still very buggy in alpha. every time I wanted to boot it up again since then, I read about a big update coming soon and delayed playing it. I'm most excited about the steam workshop integration, modding 1 was really clunky.
oh so they delayed 0.5 cuz of d4 and subnautica 2cringe
>>566963194people who makes retarded faces when they get their picture taken are incredibly suspect to me. like a genetic coding telling me "do not trust under any circumstances".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dYfIySTQA
>>566964103Does people who makes retarded faces really make you feel that way?
>>566964403Dont care. Waiting for balormage guide
>>566963952Synthetik 2 just doesn't do it for me personally. It's a good game and a worthy sequel but it's way clunkier than 1. Comparitively, while it is less cinematic, the sound design, pace, and animation work of 1 is pure SEX. I'll play 2 more every now and then but it's hard to compare
>>566964403>m*nions
>>566963694Do you need more?
>patch notes not even out>faggots making guides
How many of you retards playing RavenFire?How much do you think staff will cost?
>>566965584Day 1, it won't exist.Day 2, it'll be 100 Div.By day 7, it'll be no more than 5 Div, more like 10 Ex probably.
>>566965584>How much do you think staff will cost?nothing past the first dayI might play it if I have some good ideas for it. People shat on it, but it seems like ravens don't decay, so as long as you don't leave the map or use the single target skill, you can walk into the boss room with all ravens up.Abyssal lich might be good with gigantic aoe for it and curse pops with blasphemy.
>>566965584The low-end ones will probably be ridiculously cheap. 6-link ones will probably be ridiculously expensive.
>>566963694I remember doing a comparison to my settler's builds and seeing that every build had more active buttons (not including flasks) than there are default gem sockets in PoE2.
>>566965873>6-link ones
>>566964723when they do it for pictures, yes. a lack of elegance should be a crime.
>>566965578Please understand, they have to milk this content cow.>>566965584Depends on how many CCs try to shill at good.
>>566965873>6-linkThis is PoE2.Granted skills above a certain item level automatically gain extra slots.They're all gonna be 6-link.
>>566896703First buy a keyDl and install the game.You gotta dl someone elses lootfilter.Dl someone elses build guide into your game.Then when 0.5 hits you follow the yellow paint on the ground. Follow your build guide. Pick up what your loot filter tells you to pick up. Run the content you are told is the only content that respects your time.Then cry that the game doesn't reward you for all your efforts.
>>566964909I feel ya. Personally, I love the 2D art style on top of that. You can see that it was made by 2 germans, everything looks so neat and orderly.
>>566965978>>566965947WTF is this. Are ppl getting retarded from the hopium?
>>566965947>>566965978You need a skill level of 20 for item-based skill to have all the slots available. On their website it has level 17 skill level and only 4 slots
>>566965873This is an AI generated post
>>566966253g*ped and r*ped
im playing... uh... martial artist!!!and the main skills will be... er.... grenades!!!and my weapon of choice will be... hm.... tartarus cannon!!
>>566966240HOPEXISTERS DISCORD NOW
>>566966240>>566966497retard
>>566963119>>566962983That's fast but you get 1shot by everything and boss dps sucks anyway
>video recommended>some hobo looking poe2 streamer talking about a video by a soi looking streamer and his ideas on how to "fix" the gameat what point is it fair to say that we slipped into a dystopia?
>ziz going zoomancer>ghazzy going zoomancer>lance going zoomancerHow many trillions of divines will the unique companion sceptre cost?
What's ds_lily league starting?
>>5669682510 as it will be common af
>>566968251rue2 finally trooned out...
>>566966450>he doesn't train martial arts to chuck grenades better and reload his cannon fasterwhile you were wasting your time slapping kids I was mastering the art of the Springfield Armory Action Manufacturing Company Kanarr Corporation Thompson-Ramo-Wooldridge M79 grenade launcher
The only poe eceleb worth watching is Schwingy.
>>566968251>yes master, I am nearly finished with the campaign for you so you can finally start the game.>of course, I will farm some maps for you too to upgrade the gear.>the pinnacle boss too, master? but when will you finally play this game?
>>566968724>All thisElon's POV btw
>>566957373Neat, I know what crafts will sell like candy now.
Nofap until lily cosplay
>>566968790preparing shield before battle
>>566968858>crafterslave "playing" the game from his hideout Fucking lol
>>566969126Why do some of you wagies get so triggered when someone enjoys crafting
>>566969235Some people can't handle that you'll earn more sitting in your hideout slapping rocks on shit than they do farming maps and mechanics the entire day.Please understand.
>>566965547I can't comprehend this behavior.>you can have more skills, more fun and more options>choose not to and mash one button instead
>>566968790it was fascinating to be able to look into a con-artist's mind during the stream. all of his thought-processes were laid bare, completely naked for everyone to see. how banally stupid he is. how there is no mystery involving this man. how he is nothing but "that kid" from school, who desperately he wants to appear cool to his classmates, trying to play it casual, while looking like a retard all the way.I had no strong opinion about him before. now I ask myself how many of those retarded billionaires exist, and how easy it would be to take them out. they are so weak it's almost hilarious.
>>566969581>you can have more skillsI can't because I don't have a weapon
>>566969581>I need to click somethingTake your ADHD. If something can be done simply, why complicate it at all? Do they need to add QTEs next? Maybe you have to play DDR? A completely random typing boss fight as well?
>>566969126seething retard. lol
>>566969581Maybe clicking more buttons isnt fun? Theres MMOs for that
>>566969235you are the literal wagie but instead of real movie you get video game currencyfucking lol
>>566969917>>566969989actual retards itt
>>566970149>No retortYeah, keep mashing those buttons monkey.
>>566970090Whatever bro. Just put in another waystone, i need some more omens
>>566970090dumb ESL
>poosters literally just want to click the same button through the whole gamewhy not just "play" cookie clicker?
>>566970589PoE is cookie clicker whether you mash buttons or press the same button over and over
>>566970589Cookie Clicker unironically has more buttons and mechanics to consider than playing PoE2.
>>566904332Chaos already sucks as it is, might as well equalize everything>Chaos attacks suck>Chaos spells suck BIGLY except for ED/C and cuck totemFuck it, why not. Maybe I'll be forced to play CoC Comet like everyone else
>>566966194The German autism pairs nicely with the techno dystopia yes>>566965978Anon, the drop chance of a level 20 version of an item is microscopic
>>566968251There goes my chance at playing Pack Tactician (cheaply)
I'm almost free...
why dont we get a orb that rerolls the map once only in poe2? instead every map is now random and randomised twice when you are running t16 corrupted maps
>>566971525Random unexpected onetap coming right up!
>>566971094>Anon, the drop chance of a level 20 version of an item is microscopicnta, but I had to look twice when I found a white lvl20 summon skeleton sceptre and found out it was worth of 300div. even a lvl20 lightning bolt amulet was cheaper than this kek
>>566963694because you CANT FUCKING USE ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU GET SHITFUCKED AT MACHSPEED IN ENDGAME example: ORB OF STORMS > IDK > IDK > CASTING LIGHTNING CONDUIT??? UHHHHHHHH YEAH YOUR DEAD
>>566971525>>566971680I'm free
>>566971737you have been tubbed
>>566971617personally, I'm not a fan of poe1's philosophy of >the vast majority of classes cannot run a select few map modifier, so if you want to do anything, you cannot play the class you wantbut now they really want to push this whole corruption random shit, meaning that the majority of classes now get royally fucked, while the cookie cutter builds will dominate until everyone switches to those builds.
>>566972021>Has reflect>Cannot leech>Cannot regen life/manaI'll try to be fair and these mods pose a "risk" when trying to corrupt maps which can give you more mods = more drops but MAN are they fucking annoying.>Run an unided map for that extra 20%>Leapslam into the first thing I see>Die
>>566960113zizaran copied my starter wtf
>play hundreds of hours every single poe1 league>even play shit like ssfhcr race just for an excuse to play more>poe2 comes out>it's boring>they never update it>poe1 leagues turn to shit>6 months of nothing for 2>we're reworking everything!>still nothing newI'm so sorry BFR we treated you wrong
>>566972227>reflect>risknigga that map modifier makes it outright impossible for the majority of builds to run them, expect when they put on the unique ring to negate it. I cannot believe that they never took that shit out.>no leechalso a build negator when you rely on mana leech>less/no regenextremely painful to play, and usually makes the map so slow that 99% of builds skip it.each one of these effects are the main motivator why people do not play what they want, but instead play what cuts the cookie the best. bad design.
If reflect is so good in poe 1 why isnt it in poe 2?
>>566972734yeah it’s overmost of us have moved on by now and retvrn onky to shitpost a bitwhat about it?
>>566973391That's why I said it's to add "risk". If you can just slam corrupts on your maps willy nilly then why wouldn't you do that all the time for a chance to get a benefit.I see the "vision", I don't like it, I fucking hate it in fact, but I see it.
>>566961536They are fun when you get some action/reload speed. Permafrost/frag rounds build that was popular last league is legit the worst act 1 imaginable, and that's a high place to reach when monk exists
>>566973391I don't even know what exactly you guys are discussing, but I feel like I need to say that reflect is very easy to solve for all classes with a pretty small investment of pantheon/flask affix/implicit/protection mastery now. You don't really have a good reason to not solve it if you want to run juicier maps. Being able to run extra mods is a plus for any build.
>>566962627Yes, slap a fork on it and roll. Frenzies obviously boost clear a lot, but it does ok without (or you can get occasional frenzies from disengage/cull the weak, in maps you'll setup armour break generator anyway)
>>566972227Just don't run them? What's the issue here lol. If you don't want to potentially get fucked by bad mods, don't do random corrupts.
>>566973845I think they are doing that already really well with stuff like scarab map juicing and higher tier maps like nightmare. even with my 200div delver juggernaut, I was not able to do 100%+ IQ fully juiced breaches comfortable (with the scarab that makes them harder for each new one).>>566974121or you can just play a build that has no trouble with those mods at all an don't jump through 7 hoops every time you want to play.
If PoE1 is so good, why did they make a PoE2?
>>566925486How is the endgame new?
>>566974418greed
>>566974275>Just don't run themThe issue if you've put investment in them. Imagine if you took a mirage map, slapped some chisels and deli stuff on it and then yolo corrupted it and got something that bricks it, you're losing all those resources you put in it.>Then don't do it retardThat just loops around why those mods exist in the first place.
>>566974352>or you can just play a build that has no trouble with those modsThat limits your selection enormously and locks you out of some of the best builds in the game, or puts you in a gay spot where your main skill has reflect immunity but your movement skill doesn't necessarily.It's sensible to just solve reflect.
>>566974635>why those mods exist in the first place.For builds that can handle those mods, and for degenerate gamblers. Seriously, what's the actual issue here? You clearly understand corrupts are a gamble, they're called "yolo corrupt" for a reason. What's the point of gambling if there's no risk?
>defending brainlet design like reflect in the year of our lord 2026reminder that poo is the only game where reflect is a guaranteed instant death because it works in utterly retarded ways
>>566974704>That limits your selection enormouslywhy do you think RF is still one of the most popular builds in the game? it's for this exact reason: cancerous map mods that make them impossible to run if you don't bend backwards until your spine cracks. it's sensible to just remove map mods like this. it is not fun, and never was fun, to hit an enemy and just die instantly. same reason why atziri was always so hated. as a new player, you just go in, die a couple of times, and then you look up online what the fuck just happened. absolutely retarded game design.
>>566974942>What's the point of gambling if there's no risk?Are you being dense here? I literally made that point later on. Do you just like arguing for no reason?
>>566974418MomentumAlso reminder Poe2 started as feature creep btw
>>566975182>why do you think RF is still one of the most popular builds in the game? it's for this exact reason:RF is not a good build for running all map mods though, it's fucked by many of them, especially at lower gear levels.>it's sensible to just remove map mods like thisI have always been in favour of removing reflect and will probably always will be, but I'm just saying we have better tools to deal with it now, as of mirage or keepers or whenever they changed reflect mods.
>>566975136reflect was currency sink that made sense at some pointnowadays it’s just annoyance
>>566975209No, my point is that you're dumb for understanding the mods exist to create risk and then going on to complain about them being annoying. That's their point, they're not meant to be doable on all builds. If you want to run unided maps, you run the risk of hitting one. Crying about it is like crying the slot machine took your money and that it should actually always pay out, instead of recognizing that you can just not play the slot machine.
>>566976050‘vke
>>566975505Yeah.RF is popular because it scales off your ehp and requires that you solve recovery in order to play it, and relatively strong recovery is very strong in entry level content.You can't accidentally make a zero ehp zero recovery character like you can with bows etc.
POV: PoE 1 league start vs PoE 2 league start
>>566976873POV: you're fucking brown
>>566976873>muslim brown rapist that pimp out women>mexican fed>literal somali fed>brother of the muslim brown rapist that pimps women>cuck asian brown >dont fucking know who>the guy who bognadov'd himselfvs >fuck knows probably a bunch of leftists who are white
Ehit gonna get nerfed next league do you think?
>>566978809No shit. They hate any skill that cruises through the game without gear
>>566978809They've been light on nerfs for the past couple leagues except when people really cried out for them. Pconc needs nerfing way faster than elehit IMO, and no one except that one twerp at the office wants to do that.
>>566978809everything is getting nerfed
How come D4 has like 20x the playerbase of PoE 2 but like similar reach on third party sites like youtube and reddit?Are PoE players just unusually loud or D4 players unusually disconnected from third party sites?
>>566979741>or D4 players unusually disconnected from third party sites?there is a large casual audience for many games, it's not a mystery
>>566979741d4 is candy crush tier casual
>>566973893>permafrost/frag roundsFor clear? That sounds horribly unfun
>>566979741its diablo its the McDonald's of the ARPG space if you know ARPGs you know diablo, its nowadays for casuals compared to D1 and D2
>>566971718>A white level 20Dayum, yeah that'll do it. Are basic skellies that good though?
>>566980052I mean so was Fortnite but it was still king of social media for half a decade
>>566979741It's a shallow game that doesn't need much discussion.There's like 3 endgame activities that don't interweave, blizzsters always polarize around the optimal build for their class, you pick up drops that are very obvious upgrades or you leave your loot on the floor.Matt hill's been playing it for a few days and he's one of the top hammerdins on the server because everyone is playing clash.
>>566979741>How come D4 has like 20x the playerbase of PoE 2it doesnt. d4 has no public metrics. we just pretend its 20x more popular here because poe bad.
>>566977297>muslim brown rapist who pimps out womenyou could have just wrote "regular muslim"
>>566980967It has like half the poe 2 playerbase on steam despite maybe only 5% of D4 players being on steam
>>566980301I have no clue, but it sold within a day when the league was 5 months old
>>566981465Damn, what a jackpot
>>566979741https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXipT9Ki8A
should i do another build in poe1 while i wait for 0.5 or play the new last epoch leaguealready played a bit of D4 but it wasnt for me
>>566982437from all the options you listed, I would probably go with last epoch, but only because I'm sick of poe1
>>566979741d4 players are not terminally online freaks. yes of course you have a minority that go on forums and stuff but I would argue 95%+ of the player base is just normal people playing it for fun and do not care about what's going on with the game online.remember what mark said about the average time of killing that act 2 boss is, with people taking whole ass minutes to kill it. poe2 also has it's vast majority of players that don't interact with anything online.just like wow, d4 has literally millions of people playing it over bnet and consoles and other platforms, poe2 didn't break 1 million ccu on release, the player base for poe2 is literally nothing compared to d4.
>>566982749might just do last epoch thenwas thinking of doing some sort of explosion elementalist but i only have 100 divs and dont want to burn myself out when 0.5 launched
>>566982906> the player base for poe2 is literally nothing compared to d4.Many are saying this
>>566981819want to know something more crazy about lilith? its what the jews think goyim are spawned from, i shit you not they believe the whole neon genesis evangelion story for mankind its why they believe they are the "chosen" people its why lilith is a feminist icon also because its a story that discredits male heiarchy adam and eve the bible etcweird rabbit hole once you go down it and quite the coincidence blizzard used her for the diablo game with feminism on the rise in studios
>>566982906>muh normal peopleits 2026 nigger there is no such thing
>>566983457they aren't wrong if you really think about it tho
>>566983563nice nose
>>566983612thank you :^)
>>566983457>want to knowno
>>566983719>>566983754shut it down, bake the bread you fags
the normal not-online people who log in for new diablo seasons. definitely a real demographic.
>>566911106Neglect is the freest of them all but if you can do Sirus you can do all of them.
Planning to start huntress because it kinda looks fun.Problem is that I never played minion build in poe1 or 2 and in additiona i never played dex class in poe2. How do you scale their damage? What to go for on rings? Whats best defense options for huntress?
>>566920676>>566918790Replace it with movement speed, yes on every gear piece.
>>566911106Neglect > Elder > Exarch
>>566907086>>JUST....JUST FUCKING BUY IT ANYWAY, OKAY?but it's fucking free retard-kun? kwab
>>566984209allies do xminion damage+ to minion levelsi dont know if commands worknew rings from breach for minions are coming'Companion for huntress is what you go for dont know if it is minions for youthats pretty much it >>566984258i would say a random support gem for 1 skill would be best on each gear slot for each skill but maybe thats too much powercreep
>>566925458Can you do me a favor and check if you got the points for the shop? I have some extra keys to give to friends and I'd imagine they won't get them.
>>566925458the poo faggot finally got the game holy fuck now he can shut the fuck up about shitting non fucking stop >>566923810
tub
goddamit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miL0Ms-VwGI>in 0.5 update you will be able to find random poos everywhere>this is an indication that you are playing poo2
Why did Asmon quit PoE?
Another teaser today? I thought they were going to post one every two days, but they decided to post one yesterday.
>>566985719he quit games in general, he lives and breathes twitter now and doesn't do much else
>>566986953I'm not sure what broke him more, the fact that WoW turned into a total mess and embarrassment, or that he killed his mother.
>>566987217afaik she didn't die from the explosion or complications from it, though it certainly didn't help
>bored as fuck reading plebbit>people talking about having multiple L95+ chars this season>3k to 10k divshow in the mother of fuck do people play this game that much? i get bored by level 80 on my league starter. also their builds are so fucking gay, it's always the same shit, no theme no fun just the absolute gayest combination of skills that produce the highest numbers.
>>566987830Their builds are boring yet you are the one quitting at 80 and no currency while they reach 95+ with several thousands divsCurious
ssfbtw
>>566987830If you're talking about 0.4, inflation hit the div market hard.
>>566987830poo1 or poo2? because vaal temple in poo2 gives you something on the order of literally hundreds of times the xp and currency drops than you could have ever gotten in even the most juiced maps before, so those numbers don't mean much right now
been monk leveling using la until hallowed dickbeater its uh... moderately comfy?
>>566987971Yes? What don't you understand about this?>>566987986True but it's not like people weren't giving away 1000s of divs last league too.
>>566988751What i dont understand is your definition of boring
>>566987971there is literally nothing interesting or fun about zoom zoom lightspeed 2 button builds. maybe in poo1 when it was new but in the 4th league or whatever of poo2? at that point you've done the same idea for 12+ years and you have severe autism
>>566988361It'd be funny once the temple gets nerfed and those people couldn't hit those highs ever again and then look back on 0.4 fondly afterwards.
>>566988892Fun>cool idea or theme i came up with and try to make it goodBoring>the same preloaded chink build every other div hoarding autist is running that exploits an unintended interaction between two or more systems in order to faster collect and hoard divs i will never, ever use
>>566988931>>566989375>im having so much fun with my homebrew jank thats why i quit by level 80 and all those people playing the game 10x longer than me are just autists they dont know what boring means
>>566988967Even in simulacrum go fast is the motto for gameplay, should probably play GGG for making a system that makes people feel like they're missing out if they aren't farming raw divs
does poe2 have a hotkey to tell your minions where to move / what to focus fire?
>>566989507>have beaten all pinnacle bosses several times already>NOOO YOU HAVE TO HECKIN DO IT AGAIN!!!fuck you jonathan
>>566989649Yes
>>566989515We need mechanics that reward tankiness instead of damage.
>>566989684Pinnacle bosses is some HCuck cope its not an achievment and noone cares lil bro.
>>566896332>Poe 2 is bigger shit than Poe 1BasedMath is never wrong
>>566974418it was worth trying to make a better game (they failed)
>>566989810what is it
>>566988967I only played a week of 0.4, what was so busted about the temple?
>>566990093
>>566990107it STUNK
>>566990141ty
>>566990107You can set it up where you can get like 10k% modifiers on drops and shit so getting so much EXP and Divines so much that it crashed the market so horribly that a private league was made not 3 months in just so people can get away from that.
>>566990515*3 weeksI'm a retard and not HARD like the one who made it.
>>566990606>>566990606>>566990606
