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Horrible design decisions edition

>Guide
https://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2
>Year of Prophecy
https://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy
>Destiny Rising
https://www.playdestinyrising.com/

>News
TWID (5/14): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_05_14_2026
Update 9.5.6.3: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_5_6_3

>Resources
DIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/
D2 foundry: d2foundry.gg
Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/
API: https://www.light.gg/
Stats: https://destinytracker.com/
Braytech: https://braytech.org/
PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2
Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/
Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/

>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/

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>Truth with my me
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>me with my Truth
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>>567026710
>trusting retarded niggers on the internet
Hasn't destiny 2 taught these people anything?
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>>567027182
He doesn't understand that the thing in the screenshot is exactly what makes Marathon fun.
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>>567027451
>Marathon
>fun
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>>567027451
>fun
those who know
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>>567027451
Whats fun about it?
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Go back to your carebare hugbox game maratroons
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yeah let us talk about destiny in peace
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I'm watching the WNBA right now
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How many Runners remain? Do you even know? There would have been 12k on Wednesday night, maybe less. Such a loss. Do you feel it in your heart? Does it leave a hole? Joe Cross was my finest recruit. He understood sacrifice and when one is necessary. I honor his memory each day. When our enemy rises, we meet their challenge. It is why I created the Hand of Rape. I found the best. The cruelest. The most efficient rapists in the universe... and taught them how to be better. My Runner Rapists are coming for you. It is your time to rise.
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I just love destiny 1 & 2
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We also love Marathon here
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I'm waiting to hear what Saarnit's response to Marathon becoming baby PVE game with no content is going to be.
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What is this?
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feeling excited for the big destiny update on june 9
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Over
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watch
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnext
my favorite line for the marathon update article:
>We're embarking on a multi-season journey built around growing from the seed of this strong community.
if bungo were the smol indie studio they pretend to be, having "seed" size player base would be a good thing. but they aren't, they are a multibillion dollar company
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>>567032405
>still """learning""" after 3 decades of game development
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Anyone want to play some D1 later? I just made a new account and bought the game the other day. Kind of a bummer that you cant just go straight into a raid as soon as you start the game
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>>567032405
>multi-season journey built around growing from the seed of this strong community
Embarrassing statement. A tiny community of fervent assholes while everyone else abandons the bad game with a bad playerbase.
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Play Marvel Rivals
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>>567033079
>play slop
Im good bro i already know what it was like
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>>567032835
What class?
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>>567033520
titan
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>post yfw pic related shows up during summer gamefest
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>>567033702
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>>567033702
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>>567033079
Why can't Destiny have women that look like that
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>>567033079
Made for Eddie, Made for Logan, Made for Remy, in that order
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>>567033963
This is what marathon looks like
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Anyone want to raid in D2 ?
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>>567033702
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Pretty decent day of grinding, I think I'll be able to do WoTM soon.
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>Marathon is getting a PVE queue
lmao they're desperate for money after that 700 million dollar loss
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>>567033702
I don't want to rebuild my inventory,sorry.
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>>567038365
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>>567038610
make sure to fill out the progress on weapons even if you are going to delete then as it gives motes of light
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Who got the dmg loud lullaby tweet
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>>567038915
i used to post it all the time here before i quit
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>>567033702
>A. A ha. A ha ha ha. A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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>>567030150
The runners lost this war years ago.
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>>567039324
Thank u goat
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>>567039324
To this day I am still baffled. Like why
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Its time to admit that bungie won. Quite bigly I might add
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i miss this game
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>>567051113
people say destiny was like an abusive relationship, but now that i've happily moved on i still feel vaguely sad at her turning into a schizo crackwhore
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The marakeks have been in cope overdose trying to spin the news as anything but Bungie coping and putting out literally just sentences for "how they are totally going to fix(!) the game" in their efforts to double down on the shitheap while trying to get people to come back.

You're the Destiny Studio and you even fucked that up. Now you have some washed developer from a different studio telling you how to continue fucking up.
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>check maratroon thread
>guy asking about the game
>actual degenerates with 120 and 200 hours saying it's worth the money and the best game they've played
Reddit colony.
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>>567051113
Check back after June 9th
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>>567051495
a temporary craftening is actually a great idea. like URF in league
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>>567051495
sis... its may now...
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>>567033702
>not D3stiny
anon you don't fully understand bungie yet
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>>567051489
>reddit is full of people malding about PvE players being able to play the game without getting raped
>some even asking for cryo to still be PvP only
i can't wait for when bungie and the raped realize that pvefags want everything and not some half assed thing
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>>567057684
Some sourceless post on /v/ is claiming that Cryo and the keys for it arent going to be available in the pve mode and the loot will be maxed at blue tier. Wouldnt surprise me if it was true.
>pve content is below the bare minimum and only exists to trigger pvp
>would/will need many years just to bring the game up to like 1/3 of d1 pve standards
>talk about introducing a pve mode
Bungie is using this to test the limit of how much they can set themselves up for failure before they lose the game of solo russian roulette while an audience watches.

Also doesn't everything about what they've said contradict that retard zieglar's """vision"""? Sony must have a gun to his or Bungie's head.
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Even so I cant help but laugh at the marathon community trying to push away the pve audience. They dont realize the reality of the situation that most people play games casually and not like a esport 24/7 so bungie actively shot themselves in the foot trying to make marathon be the next big thing. Whats even funnier is the fact they never learned from their mistakes and kept doubling down to see if they can actually get something but in the end they fucked themselves
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>>567059014
It's gonna be funny to watch it unfold once again
>contradict the VISION
It does and i hope sony will force him to bend backward, i've yet to see a single game where sticking to it didn't completely fuck it over
>>567059521
Yea i have no clue why they are this aggressive, but i blame bungie for not stopping them
offshots from tarkov/arc? I doubt they were yellow minigamers
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>>567059863
>offshots from tarkov/arc? I doubt they were yellow minigamers
They flew Tarkov streamers out to promote it when they pivoted to making it an extraction shooter, and they were all disinterested. Bungie further changing the game to keep trying to court them was just them continuing to be as retarded as we know they are.
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>>567060321
I forgot about that fucking blunder lmao
who the fuck are these raging pvpfags then? all rape no brakes
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>>567059863
Biggest issue is that they dtuck to the vision for so long there isnt really any turning back. The game is ugly as sin and everything about it has been made for "the vision". Honestly the game is almost as if they tried as hard as possible to make a game that needs as little content input as possible.

Now they are faced with the reality that it's dogshit in the eyes of everyone they need playing the game and they are left there with their dick in the guillotine and they have absolutely no ability to respond except half measures like disabling PVP and begging people to come back.
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I cannot be understated how much long term reputation damage this single slide did to Bungie
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forsaken had enough content to make bungie have an 8 year tantrum
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>>567061286
Still don't understand how anyone at any level of the company looked at this and said "yeah this is great". Or how anyone sees this and thinks "yeah this company cares and is full of passion".
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>>567061807
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>>567061275
The shells look like shit and 90% of the game too, the only thing i liked during the slam were the interiors
a mostly interior map probably works better with the blocky artstyle
>Honestly the game is almost as if they tried as hard as possible to make a game that needs as little content input as possible.
This is probably what they were going for
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Dotting i's? Crossing T's?
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team is cooking
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D1
>solid foundation
>Fix the house on it
>make the inside real nice
>people still remember it fondly
D2
>foundation is cracking and water is getting in
>they fix the foundation
>expansion onto the house
>expansion onto the house
>expansion onto the house
>"running out of room for expansions" he says out loud while looking out at his gigantic unused property
>tear down house to make room for expansions
>expansion onto the house of theseus
>roof starts leaking because of all the shoddy expansions
>maybe it's time to-
>expansion onto house of theseus
>the inside starts rotting
>expansion
>entire previous expansions are now unsalvageably rotten
>expansion
>silence as roof slowly creaks and collapses
Marathon
>crackshack made of decaying wood and corrugated metal
>spray painted with whatever scraps the graffiti artist dropped while running from the cops
>homeless man proudly asks you to rent from him
>contract states that every 3 months he sells everything you own to a pawn shop and smokes meth behind a Wendies using the money
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>>567063935
ngl this leaves out how colossally bad the esport chasing ideas of D2Y1 were. the optimal activity was fucking earth public events for god's sake
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Remember the faction rally grind? They forced you to pretty much grind lost sectors if you wanted tokens
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>>567064526
as grinds go those weren't that bad
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>>567065070
Its more of the fact they forced you to do only one thing meanwhile factions in d1 allowed you to do anything for rep including donations aswell
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>>567065192
true true aswell poster
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>>567064526
I memba when there was a particular lost sector that was exploitable in the EDZ by running out the back and running back in allowing you to loot the final chest over and over for easy faction tokens.
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can't wait for Bungie to save Destiny, prove all the haters wrong, watch them crawl back to the game and this general, all while we can gloat about being real ones who never doubted Bungie
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>>567067779
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>>567067779
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>Hopesissy came back just to make the most nonsensical post xhe's ever made
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i want to come back and play this
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>>567069038
you will, but just wait for D3, they've already wrapped up D2
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>>567067779
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its over
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>>567069805
It's been over
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Its been over since shadowkeep TBQH
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>Marathon dropped to the third most searched game on SteamDB
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>>567070632
she should've taken what the fag Brookes started with Saint and Osiris and made it a full-on yaoi dynamic between them, would've been pretty cool lole.

this is why you hire fujos and not just basic-ass DnD writers
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>>567069805
do they know that the overlapping fanbase is like 10%
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Eris and drifter relationship: felt natural
Osiris and Saint: felt forced
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>>567070934
76 percent of marathon players have played destiny 2
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>>567070934
Probably not. This would have been cool if they didn't leave Destiny to die after TFS for Marathon. Now most of us hate Marathon, yet another uphill battle for Bungie and it's all their fault.
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>>567071030
wasn't that because of that bug that installed destiny 2 when booting the beta? I meant d2 fans anyway, not marafags
>>567071158
I'll never understand why the fuck did they go for EoF instead of turning that into D3 or just closing up the story with TFS
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>>567071276
>I'll never understand why the fuck did they go for EoF instead of turning that into D3 or just closing up the story with TFS
because when that was happening they were in talks with sony to get their big payout
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The layoffs...I need them...
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>>567070796
apathy
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What our opinion on poop?
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>>567071696
I don't like Marathon
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>>567071696
It's shit
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I have a PS4 and a copy of Destiny in a box about 7ft away from me as I type this, got the urge, then I remembered you have to pay for online on consoles, lost the urge.
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>>567069587
>everyones just hoping for destiny 3
show me one destiny launch that anyone liked. no one remembers that destiny launches fucking suck. destiny is fun when it has a few years of content
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>>567071620
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>>567072074
and proper onboarding
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>>567072383
STAR WARS?!?!?!?!?
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When i win a internet argument I usually unload another shot in my mara jara
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jar*
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>>567072545
expanded universe is like 75% based, if you ignore the retarded exar kun/sun crusher/emo boy i forget the name of storyline
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>>567072545
Why do they all look the same
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>>567075138
oregon moment
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>>567064526
It wasn't just grinding lost sectors anon, it was grinding A SINGULAR lost sector as >>567067040 said (edz winding cove) for hours on end
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>>567075527
That and if you wanted all the faction gear you would have to do it on your other 2 characters
What a hellish boring grind
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>>567075682
Until they made it account wide because fuck you, enjoy earning one of 3 catalysts goydian :^)
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>>567075942
You rike timegating?
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>>567075759
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I don't know how much longer I can jam...
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>>567079470
You will JAM...
You will DIG...
You will PASS feedback to the team...
You will DOT I's...
You will CROSS T's...
Or else... You will DROWN... in the DEEP...
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>>567079976
>You will PASS feedback to the team...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KmvNUYjuFQ
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>>567075759
true, any women who play the game are just men pretending to be women
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>>567075759
>hardest game ever
Even harder then takeshis challenge?
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Got this from upper management at bungie
Do what you will with this information
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>>567085992
kung pow 2 confirmed
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>>567085992
i hate the fact that LITERALLY any other explanation of the pyramid ships is better than the one we got after 10 years
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>listening to Aztecross say stupid shit about Destiny 3
>"what if we put all of humanity in the pyramid ships and leave Earth"
>actually think it's a cool idea
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>>567087573
>>567087491
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me? I'm just an average 26yr old guy.
average job, average car, average home, average life.

...except for when I log on my computer.
Because in the world of Destiny 2, I play as a Titan, defender of The Last City, protector of the Sol system, and the leader of my Fireteam where we fight back against the enemies of Humanity and its allies.

so yeah, you could say my other life is anything BUT average ;)

join me in this world, where you can forge your own path, and shape your Destiny™!
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>>567089798
You guys are the class who raises their fist behind the wall :D
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Nice glitched instance to queue into.
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>ketchcrash
Ew why would they ever bring that shitty activity back
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>>567039324
my favorite is the PvE tracked kills
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>>567039324
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>>567039324
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>>567093058
For real. They really chose that over bringing back or rather continuing the nether and court of blades which was not only new but enjoyed by the majority of the community. I miss it so much...
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>>567094387
>more disgusting seasonal slop
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>>567094387
Theoretically I really like ketch crash because it's got different possible routes. Issue is just how much it bugs.
Contrast the fucking astral well or whatever where it's 4 different objectives but they all feel so samey due to the arenas.
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>>567095140
both ketchcrasha nd astral well suck dick. court wasn't that great but it wasn't as bad as those.
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>>567094768
The only thing that sucked about it was the stupid healing pots thing. Otherwise it was enjoyable although I do remember court being somewhat frustrating on the higher difficulty.
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>>567095473
The rewards also sucked dick for being a time waster activity
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>>567095473
I actually engaged minimally that season because of the permahealth. I hate that shit in any real time game.
It wouldn't have been so bad if all the healing wasn't nerfed to death. Fuckers had me using crimson until it got nerfed.
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The Nether is the best activity Bungie has ever made
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I want to keep doing the hands in the pale heart but there's no tracker.
Do I just do overthrows until I don't get seeds anymore?
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>>567039324
It actually had a nice pvp roll with field prep (to compensate for its drawbacks) + kc or mkc, but it's def a niche 120 in part because of how it sounded. I actually think it's fun, sounds like someone is banging on a bucket with a ladle, lmao.
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>>567095910
Some weapons were bad I won't lie. I don't ever remember trying to go for the linear, glaive, smg, sidearm, or the bow so about half the pool lol. Everything else though was good or had its purpose like the sword being the go to for stronghold titans. Also the fusion was really fun with discord and destabilizing rounds.
But you know another issue were the adepts and shiny drops. You could play on the higher difficulty and still get normal drops or play them for hours and never get a shiny. I wasn't asking for handouts because look at where that got us but like damn the shiny adepts were just so rare and when you finally did get one the roll usually blew. It sucked. Dunno if it would have been too generous but it'd have been nice to have one guaranteed at the end of a higher difficulty run.
>>567096728
>It wouldn't have been so bad if all the healing wasn't nerfed to death
Agreed. They shouldn't have gone so hard on it as they did especially with how many builds revolve around it.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=hBkACgs3ZWA
It's up
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>>567099356
>sony steam charts
Thank you sony for making it easier for us to see how much a game flopped kek
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=bznCOxRMCoU&pp=ygUJYXNtb25nb2xk
>I wonder what Mtashed is up to nowadays
>
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>>567099356
tahnit will not be happy about this....
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>>567099802
>destiny content flopper
>woke
>trying to poke the wasp nest
Many such cases
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>>567099802
Is there a single destiny content creator who isn't a retarded lefty?
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>>567099802
lmfao
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>>567099802
lol. Why did he stop doing D2 stuff again?
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>>567067779
>smug hopeposting
>in 2026
anon...
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>>567099356
seems quite anti-studio of them considering players will make a laughing stock out of a game that did poorly, but interesting feature
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>>567100521
cross
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>>567093058
R*ddit said they loved it, so it's good and wanted
Meanwhile
>Menagerie is left in the dirt
>Reckoning is in an unmarked shallow grave
>Black Armory Forges retconned out of reality through a Dreadnaught-sized plot hole contrivance
>Sundial is forgotten (and never gave the Psion cloaks it should have)
>Vex Offensive was deleted from memory
>Splicer 6 man forgotten (for good reason IMO, it was samey and I hate the aesthetic)
>a few others I'm forgetting over the years
>All patrol activities (Escalation Protocol, whatever the Arrivals one was called, etc) are gone except for the no fun allowed one on Neotroona
Bungie makes no good decisions. They make easy decisions. They said "oh they want strikes? Let's put all the battlegrounds in, they're the same thing" without considering that each set of BG was 3 of the exact same strike, and then act confused when players say the playlist is too samey.
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>>567099802
>calls him a retarded dog and a goyim in this vid
holy kek. dest*nycucks are truly locked in an endless humiliation ritual
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>>567099356
OH BABY
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>>567100647
OOF
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Mtashed bros..
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Mpregged bros..
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>Destiny 1 remaster
>Will get future updates
>All of Destiny 2 retconned
yay or nay?
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>>567104665
it's "yea or nay," read a book
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm58CVTsy2U
It's up
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>play Destiny 1 on Xbox using remote play since its more convenient for me
>Download software to mimic xbox inputs with keyboard and mouse
>All of it just works
>Even if sometimes I have to fight against the aim assist to kill enemies it just feels smoother to play than controller
How long until Aztecope discovers this one trick and starts playing D1 all the time using Keyboard and Mouse?
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>>567104417
2d femboy mpreg is literally my favorite thing in the entire world
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>>567104665
As cool as it sounds just to see D1 on PC, I would not be interested in seeing how current Bungie continues that world after Lightfall. And they would take the wrong kinds of advice from content creators like Datto with vague and open ended takes like
>WE NEED TO BRING THE CHALLENGE BACK TO DESTINY
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[Heartbreaking News] The playerstation playercount tracker will only track the top 10 games, so we'll never see Marathons numbers
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>>567107726
Playing KB+M on D1 earlier today, it really showed that D1 on PC would be kind of a nightmare because the game is quite heavily reliant on shooting and controllers are notorously shit for shooters and with the precision and speed on KB+M it would trivilize the game immensely. I was hitting more headshots at longer distances than I ever did when using controller and even on controller I'm out performing most players. They'd definitely make the game harder because of KB+M though because Bungie is retarded and wouldn't consider controller at all.
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>>567107729
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>567108031
I guess they’d could pull a Halo on PC then where you either matchmake with users that have the same inputs or make it where controller gives you massive aim assist while mouse and keyboard users get none of that. I’m just hopeful that a theoretical PC port would mean that it would be Steam Deck compatible, because there’s not much cheating you can really do in a solved game. And it’s already known that PC users cheat a lot in Bungie’s games so…
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>>567105780
pve mode confirmed to be a panic button i guess. not that it needed confirmation
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>>567107729
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>567107729
snoy can't even do one thing right.
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>>567108903
that's already how d2 is...
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>>567069805
If they think marakek is going to cannibalize destiny they are sorely mistaken. They will have to kill destiny themselves and those pve players aren't going to switch to marashit for crumbs after feasting on Destiny. They're just going to fuck off somewhere else.
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>>567112510
There are no other PvE shooters, so the Destiny uncs will have no choice.
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>>567075759
>One of the hardest games ever made
Is this Baby Saarnit's first videogame?
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>>567112824
>Destiny shuts down
>Don't play Marathon
>Instead play any number of coop shooters like Far Far West or Deep Rock Galactic
Marakeks raped by the coop shooter genre.
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>>567112824
Warframe, Shitframe aka Soulframe, Snorederlands, probably others.
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>>567112824
I know you're joking but its funny that Bungie probably thinks that.
>These Destiny 2 fans will have no choice but to play Marathon! They won't settle for Warframe or other looter shooters, they only want our games!
Even though D2's decline lead to a jump in Fallout 76 and Div 2 players, and Destiny 2's playerbase inherently won't jump to a game that goes through story and progression resets each season. Nevermind jump towards a game that respects your time commitment even less than D2 did during its height with the Seasonal format.
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whatd we think of the new far far west patch
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datto status?
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>>567112824
These people were playing Destiny past Yass Queen, amigo, quality doesnt matter to them.
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/the-hangover-kicks-in-after-a-decade-of-games-as-a-service-obsession-opinion

Sonybros...
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>>567112824
>>567114181
The Division
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>>567112824
Witchfire, but it's not really done yet.
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>>567116690
>Get told PVE is bad
>Marathon being a hardcore PVP only game is a good thing
>All of the most successful games of 2026 have PVE
>Bungie bends the knee to PVE after only 2 months
Interesting
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>>567117257
makes u wonder about duskbloods
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>>567112824
Division 3
Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core
John Carpenter’s Toxic Commando
Defect
Witchfire
Rogue Point
Starship Troopers: Ultimate Bug War
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You know I was thinking about this mythical june update that we are supposed to get for Destiny 2 and when you tally it all up it does seem like "a lot" but I don't think its a very coherent update and thats why Bungie is dead silent because its going to be a mish mash of shit.
>Pantheon 2.0 that has its own unique gear which means it has the possibility of not being fomo like the previous Pantheon but this could mean like 2 new guns like most of the shit events get
>Raid and dungeon weapon and armor update with all the weapons getting updated perks and the crafting patterns getting updated so you can craft T5 equivalents and also don't need to regrind the guns while you do for the armor but that has a set bonus for every single raid and dungeon set though you'd also have to farm dungeon guns again since they aren't craftable
>T5 stats for exotics if they update exotics you already got which should be possible they'll probably get like +1 point of goodwill with the community though Bungie is retarded and probably won't
>Raid and dungeon weekly rotation for powerful drops
>Other expected shit in the update like...
>reprised Fireteam Ops activities
>reprised Arena Ops activities
>reprised pinnacle ops activities
>Maybe a new solo ops
>New Fireteam or Arena ops activity
>New exotic mission
>New Fireteam ops, Pinnacle ops and crucible portal loot
>Small vault space increase
>Gambit gear getting updated with maybe Gambit being thrown in the portal as they did say they might make Gambit an event
>New Iron Banner armor and weapons
>Bright Engram update to make them "better"
>Some update to onslaught
There is probably shit I forgot but you tally it up and it seems like a lot but if the update even exists it just seems like they are just throwing shit at the wall in every direction and hoping that its good enough but I think a lot of the effort has gone on raids and dungeons which very few people play rather than on shit that most people play.
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It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nx4xYJDXu8
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>>567117532
the visual and audio design for toxic commando are ass
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>>567026917
Soon
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>>567117982
Debatable, it's still a better game than Destiny 2 in 2026 and Marathon.
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>>567117951
Wasn't Shadow and Order also expected to drop with one (1) story mission like Ass and Irony?
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>>567116690
GAAS games have always been jewish scams, and yes that includes D1
the sooner they die the better
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>>567117257
And they went so hard on the pvp "fake" player-driven content read: content that doesn't cost them anywhere near as much to develop that there isnt even a skeleton of pve content to rely on. A handful of enemies with spongey variants and "events" so painfully simple that they only exist to make a ton of noise for pvp players to come over.
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>>567118340
Yeah that is something I forgot is that they'll also have an intro mission but I doubt it'll be anything substantial just like A&I which was just run around the tower shooting some vex for like 5 minutes and then killing a boss.
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>>567118063
okay bud have fun with your generic ue5slop art design and generic infection zombies
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marathon nowhere to be seen
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>>567120849
Check India
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>>567120849
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>>567120980
browns hate marathon
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Damn, imagine if Paul's inside source is Tyson Green himself.
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>>567122058
Not true, it sold significantly better in brown countries than white countries on steam.
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>>567122353
this is brown cope and completely fabricated. any response to this post claiming otherwise will be seen as a concession. i dare you to concede.
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my favorite month is June for Destiny because I can wear my pride ornaments and shaders ^•^
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Will he return for Pantheon 2? And will he throw a hissy fit when he gets filtered like the shitter he is like in the Last Wish raid and the tantrum he threw after losing WF Crown of Sorrow?
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>>567069805
D2 players (like myself) don't play unfinished games. This PVE is a trick to get people into sunken cost, and then they'll remove it after. Not buying it.
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>>567122602
I proved you wrong back in March
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>>567123569
The main problem is that its not even a full promise to commit, it's just an "experiment". The Marathon reddit is already full of people bitching about how it'll "unbalance the in-game economy" though, as if that's not a thing happening already with people running purple kits in Perimeter.
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>Kill Destiny 2
> Forcing Destiny 2 players to move to Marathon
The people at Bungie are fucking GENIUSES!
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>>567125035
And I bet the all experiment will amount to them upping the number of bot in the map while decreasing the number of players able to connect
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SEETHING
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>>567125434
>How dare we care about playercount in multiplayer only games!
Thanks, Mark (((Noseworthy)))
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>>567125434
He won in the end he left social media and is probably playing WoW having fun while Noseworthy seethes on twitter about the ebil chuds and their damn player counts and charts.
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>>567124156
thank you for your complete and total concession.
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>>567125434
>what do you MEAN people won’t be tricked into spending money on our dead game?
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>>567125265
it's both, one full pve and one pvp-lite
the catch is that "chill" description, which means they completely missed the point of what people were asking for
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>>567125434
Cross said he saw Noseworthy at Bungie the last time he was there, which I guess would be a Marathon thing. Imagine getting laid off and still obsessing over the retarded company that did that to you.
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I will not be buying Marathon even though they are adding a PvE mode.
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Did you guys see that the "real" PVE mode isn't coming until Season 5?
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>>567125434
Seething and butthurt.
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>>567126464
unironically, the game will be dead by that point
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>>567125742
SAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>567126464
Season 5 of Marathon will be download Destiny 2.
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>>567126464
>But Ziegler also gave a peak at what’s coming beyond season 2. While Bungie will be testing some of these new modes beginning in June, season 3 will bring a much deeper overhaul to the onboarding experience on Perimeter, alongside additional content. “Season 4 we’re focusing on building more depth into the existing extraction loop,” he wrote. “Season 5 we’re looking at bringing the whole ecosystem of (PV(P)VE) play together and evolving our weird sci-fi world in new ways.”

Holy shit lmao this game is dead. At least D2 launched with various modes, explorable live overworlds, and overally shit to do. What do you even do in Marathon aside from PVP?
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>>567125434
kek what a seething bitch
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>>567125664
luke "the scarab lord" smith is getting serviced by his harem of night elf and blood elf women
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What the fuck were they thinking with Mattermorph, holy fuck. Literally breaks my build for 30 seconds at a time.
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>>567126464
Oh my god. Sony just kill them already
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>>567125434
Mark "somebody called me a retard for equipping Doomfang Pauldrons on a Striker" Noseworthy, at it again!
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>>567126464
Season 5 just so happens to coincide with the game's 1 year anniversary. Sony basically told them that they've got a year to salvage it
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>>567125860
I do feel bad for marathon players in that the game obviously does cater to a specific niche.
People just seem to have forgotten said niche is going to be super small and super sweaty.
That's a passion project, not a cash cow, and you bled your cash cow to do it.
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>>567129432
Could also be that it's locked behind the paid Marathon expansion for the year.
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>>567126464
>>567127234
lmao it's not gonna go past s2
>>567129576
They lost all my empathy when they couldn't take criticism about the game and defaulted to cult-mode
Fuck em
>>567129845
this is the most jewish outcome and probably what they are hoping to do
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>>567129982
I think the people who defaulted to cult mode are outside that core, though.
I'm talking autists (positive) like CammyCakes. Listening to him discuss the game was a treat because he was genuinely having fun in the beta.
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>>567130135
>CammyCakes
I will never not find it funny how every time I would watch his videos he is talking all this abstract esoteric bullshit about Destiny 2's PvP when its just a casual arcade shooter experience much like Halo. It was just never that indepth and I think CammyCakes kept coping all the way until whenever before he just gave up lol. Now he is busy getting raped in Marathon probably and start talking up big game about that when its not that competitive because its an extraction shooter built upon raping shittier geared players or just shooting retards in the back.
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>>567132515
Yeah, anon, he's clearly autistic. In the same way melee is a children's party game that people have obsessed over for 25 years. He found depth that was unintended and enjoyed focusing on that.
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>>567126464
It's just like lord of the rings guys, it's gonna end with some guy killing himself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zlsL1_AGA

Marty won
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>>567135751
I'm a simple man, I see Marty, I click on whatever it is.
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>>567135751
>Mike Salvatori coming back for The Marty O'Donnell Show
Holy based
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>>567135751
based, this is a tacit support of marty's politics.
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>>567129432
>Sony basically told them that they've got a year to salvage it
bungo will be dead within a year. the only thing sony is telling them is to lay off employees until the studio closes
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>>567125434
(((noseworthy)))
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>Already tempering expectations
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>>567137765
>folks
Yeah I would temper expectations for a PVE mode in a game with almost non-existent pve content.
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>>567137765
>they're afraid
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>Marathon general is already dead
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>>567139494
It's mostly us
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>>567137765
Its only been 3 months lmao
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>>567138295
>Be feared.
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>>567139740
>PS: Marathon art style is peak.
Unc learned some gen a slang
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>>567139494
haters kept it alive, but now, we don't care
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tahnit status?
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>>567140084
Raped
Gay
Indian
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>>567139494
Did it die (again)? I rarely pop in there to check on them because every time I do it fills me with untold amounts of nihilism for gaming as a whole.
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>>567137765
>>567139740
Why do these people have to be so obnoxious, cult-like and downright hostile to Destiny players? Bungie also somewhat supports this indirectly, it's like they want their game to die.
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>>567140143
Because we're chuds and they need to own us so Kamala can be president in 2028. I wish I was joking or being hyperbolic, it's all political. Anyone that likes Bungie games in 2026 is a poltical millenial or gen x faggot and uses this slop as a platform to push their agenda.
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>>567140280
I just like that cross gave his ultimate chudtimatum. I don't think I'll even return to play the game I just would find it funny if they're forced to work on Destiny again like an abused housewife.
https://files.catbox.moe/ilmhk0.mp4
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>>567107254
when he streams d1 he puts it through frame gen so it plays like 60fps(with a bit of delay)
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>>567140280
I think you're right. Every single person I've seen shill marathon is a lefty, with a disturbing amount having troon flags in their bios
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>>567140143
>Bungie also somewhat supports this indirectly
Because they are trying to push the overton window for how little content they can get away with for a game and forcing people to accept seasonal wipes as a form of capping power. Destiny requires content updates. Marakeks cope about getting a map variation and another gun.
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>>567141097
>Destiny requires content updates. Marakeks cope about getting a map variation and another gun.
True. Bungie since leaving Activsion; hell, Microsoft, has always been about delivering the minimal viable product. The worst map for Marathon but at night is going to save the game
? Fuck anyone that eats that slop up.
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Music is so cool
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It's over...
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 18724
Destiny 2: 50326
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>>567145058
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>567113321
>friendslop
ick
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so the next update is definitely cancelled or delayed since they still need all fags on deck to make flopathon pve right?
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>>567147896
if this happens dmg gonna get some pizzas sent to his house, which he considers the holocaust
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This shit is embarrassing, I can't believe the narrative got any praise at all
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>>567149881
cringe that they covered the feet after the molting
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Also what it their obsession with the "incoming call" thing?
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>>567151010
tell your ghost to put some clothes on
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>>567031729
>quit D2 shortly after Lightfall
sigh, whose self insert is this
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>>567152485
some dude that turned this chick down
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What destiny related individual would you basement?
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>>567031729
Act Ma'am
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Is this skybox reused? Looks familiar
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Well that was a drag. I'll have to read a summary on what happened cause I stopped trying to pay attention halfway through.
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>>567031729
This game is so fucking ugly and dated looking.
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>>567158170
trvke
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How the fuck they'll justify PvE as a main dish in Marathon?
Enemies are walking cardboard tanks that are easy to cheese and just serve as easily ignored distraction. They pretty much only here to make noise for forced PvP interactions.
There are no fun little interactions like in ARC, no zonal damage, which can cripple PvE bots, no variety in types, bots in Marathon all visually look like carbon copies of each other, just a big Lego looking dude slowly walking towards you.
They ain't gonna pull out myriad of new enemy types and polish up existing ones, or make Runner bots, so what the fuck is the goal behind PvE mode?
Is there long term grinds, like making your hideout in Tarkov or ball busting quest chains that take forever to do? No?

It's looking grim ngl.
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>>567158513
Trust the plan.
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>>567156804
EoF campaign felt like watching paint dry. I unironically wanted to kill myself while going through forced little ball mechanics.
Just buncha annoying busywork, all to artificially pad up campaign. Yeah, you can't just shoot and punch everything to death, you must jump through the hoop Guardian, chop chop.
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>>567158513
ARC's also added
>Vaporizer
>Comet
>Turbine
Since launching the game.
Marathon's literally added nothing. The Compiler doesn't even count. There's no fucking PvE aspect to this game to speak of, the entire game is LITERALLY based solely around PvP. I played a couple matches in Marathon where I only got to shoot one person and it was fucking boring and gay and just a walking sim.
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>>567149881
even old D1 armour look lame and gay when paired with nuBungie aesthetics. Her model is also artificially stretched, it just looks plain weird.
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>almost kills your game
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the past 2 months have BLASTED by
it honestly feels like only a week has passed.
probably the most fun ive had doing literally nothing.
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>>567159480
I kneel, Panoptes-kun.
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>kills your game
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>>567158170
Mostly yeah, still has its moments though
>>567158837
I could not believe just how many instances there were of "survey the room and find the secret hole". So much dev time wasted on that shit.
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>>567160510
Picture unrelated.
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>>567160232
why did he do it
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>>567161187
hes a patsy
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>>567160232
he is literally a proto-chud, he literally fits the look
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>>567161940
idk he's got that male feminist look to him you know
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legit why does reddit get angry when you talk about destiny 1 ?
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>>567163219
They can't refute nostalgiafags (strawman, not everybody played D1), so they just can't help themselves but get angry when faced with absolute mogging. Being powerless will do it to ya.
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>>567163219
Current bungie devs and their close circles all post or moderate on reddit.
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I honestly cant even envision a Destiny 3 let alone a continuation of Destiny 2 unless they pour an unremarkable amount of resources into overhauling 2. And this doesnt even consider how widly shit all the live service seasonal crap has been to the game.
D2 just feels like a fragmented game and im tired to people not addressing how fucked it is. Seasonal content, flipflopping on vendors and grinds, along with getting rid of actual staying power content has made this game trashy
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>>567140280
>>567140850
If you browse personal accounts of Bungie employees, they'll be seething 24/7 about first world problems, blm, muh evil drumpf and supporting democrats about yet another current thing.
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>>567165476
oregon cities are fucked
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>>567166879
You know what else is fucked?
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fucking marathon man they really tried killing destiny for this
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>>567166879
Sure, but bungie is in bellevue WA.
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>>567173262
That entire coast is fucked.
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>>567173321
Every coast is fucked my man.
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Remember when Edge of Slop released, and it was so bad that the shills clung to the story of all things to try and push as good
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>>567173262
may bad but same
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i want to tongue punch Mara Sov's fart box
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>>567174114
>non-linear campaign
>you can complete most missions in any order
>bungo just had the linear sequence removed
>do one mission
>ikora says she finally trusts lodi
>do another mission
>ikora speaks as though you met lodi for the first time
>thinks he is suspicious and withholds information
>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>you just can't see it in the game
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>>567178785
>>do one mission
>>ikora says she finally trusts lodi
>>do another mission
>>ikora speaks as though you met lodi for the first time
>>thinks he is suspicious and withholds information
>>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>>you just can't see it in the game
just one of the reasons cyberpunk 2077 is a dogshit game
it ruined my immersion constantly
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>>567179519
>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>you just can't see it in the game
Not just that but you can't actually work out the actual sequence, she just goes from finding him trustworthy to asking us to be prepared to shoot him in the back of the head
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the future is brazilian
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>>567170292
It would actually be ironic if even after all the time they put into trying to turn the game around, D2 still ends up having a higher playercount.
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>>567181485
it will
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Marathon? Dead
Bungshills? Broken
Future? Grim
Doom? Eternal
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Road map?
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Forgotten
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overdelivery
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team is JAMMING
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I can't believe Star Wars made the game even worse...who could have predicted this?
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>>567182914
Every single person that watched the content trailers before the launch except those in tahnit-level denial
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>>567182914
literally everybody
the prequels were kinda bad but they are masterpieces compared to disney
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They're really going to turn a game that has 3 enemies into a pve game
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>>567185797
Bungie is so smart.
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>>567185795
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>>567185795
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>>567185795
Do it
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>>567185795
Three weeks with no tweet police walk into DMG's apartment to do a welfare check and find him hanging from a noose with this playing on loop in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NQm7jZFXwc
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>>567185795
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>>567186690
I'm surprised he hasn't been sperging out over Chud The Builder.
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>>567183095
episode 1 and 3 are good
which now that i think about it is odd
no second star wars film has ever been good
2 bad
5 bad
8 bad
hmm
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Crossover status?
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I CANT JAM
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vgh....
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>>567191376
taken king sucks
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>>567191376
Activision really was the key to making Destiny good.
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>>567191973
>t.
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>>567192246
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Im gonna rape dmg so hard by the time im done with him his anal prolapse is gonna look like a big floppy poop noodle
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>>567196246
>poop
poop noodle*
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I dont know why I cant say "pool" but whatever bits ruined killing myself
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>double down on all of your bad changes
>be lazy as possible
>only listen to content creators
>make all of your playtesters content creators
>dont even listen to any of the feedback from tarkov players you invited to improve your game
>refuse to stop developing your shit even after being told it doesnt work
>release a failed product and now have to go against your core philosophy just to make some cash back
>refuse to elaborate on your mistakes and continue spewing your generic corpo slop responses
What did they mean by this? What is their endgame?
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>>567187373
5 is widely regarded as the best tho, and i agree. 3 certainly was better than 2, it had its hype moments. my complaints about 1 are mainly rape of the lore, the CGI not being quite there, and jar-jar, otherwise i really like it. especially the episode 1 soundtrack is a fucking masterpiece
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A whole day at the poop for just 30 cents
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>>567197817
for the billionth time the endgame was getting an insane payout from the sony acquisition and then dipping which already occurred like a year ago
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>>567181112
There are other missions where he is suspicious, then we do something and make him talk after helping the locals, and then Ikora calms down a bit and says we can start trusting him. The sequence is there, but broken, and with multiple arcs (Aion/Orin/Ikora), if you play the campaign for the first time, you have no idea what is what.
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>>567197850
>rape of the lore
nigga...
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>>567200116
are you just pretending to forget how many people fucking hated midichlorians
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>>567198084
IIRC the payouts, or at least the employee retention bonus is supposed to be paid in full during this summer. But considering how poorly Bungie's products have been selling as of late, the impairment charges meaning that Bungie's assets are now greatly devalued, I don't think they'll get anywhere near what they were promised.
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>>567182914
>Aunor looks nothing like how she was described in lore
>Praxic Order retconned into being Jedi for some reason
>Dredgens retconned into being sith for some reason
>Apparently they always had lightsabers even though they never showed up in any previous lore
>literally redid the forsaken outlaw plot but significantly worse
>my god slaying immortal Guardian had to impress a bunch of literal who mob bosses
>The Vex were once agian made even lamer and gay
The only thing I liked was the Praxic blade.
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>>567200301
by your logic the discovery of bacteria and germ theory raped the prior concept of hygiene and disease?
there is nothing wrong with midichlorians
>the force is in all LIVING things
just say you prefer being ignorant
science = gay and dumb, mysteries = cool and based
midichlorians literally changes nothing
i get sick when i dont wash my hands and i get sick when i dont wash my hands because germs is literally the same thing.

people hated it because it didnt adhere to 20 years of THEIR fan theories.
lucas since before episode 4 even came out had the whills and midichlorians BAKED IN
he wrote that shit into the story from the start but it wasnt brought up in the OT because its not relevant to the story
it IS relevant to the story of the PT.
if midichlorians were in the OT literally nothing changes about them and no one cares.
most people just dont want to learn more about shit they learnt in the first 20 ish years of their life.
too much time had passed and "the force" had cemented itself in peoples mind as being a certain way, it never was actually that way but they dont care, it is the way it is and thats its.

its not a fault of the story or george as a writer.
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>>567201758
yeah i didn't read this past the first sentence before hiding the post

you are a retard
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>>567201423
that's the employee part. the C-suite part cleared in 2025
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>>567201990
>yeah i didn't read
i know because then you would have to update your knowledge which you think is rape
which means you might just be the most raped person in this general
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>>567201990
nta but you uncs are literally withering away as we speak
prequels were cool 2000s star wars games and movies were cool cope and mald your last few hairs left.
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>>567202067
I cant wait to see how many devs leave then once they get their payday.
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>>567203732
well, sony is closing in on that FY end
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>>567203156
>stop talking about bad things guys
>just consume things you like and show others that it is good (while ignoring any criticism as "fake fans" or "grifters")
>if you don't ignore them, vaguepost about them by saying everything but their names to describe them and then insist they're bad people
Gradually I began to hate them.
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or wait, they did it already? is JP different? i can't fuckin remember and can't be arsed to look it up

anyway, clock's ticking on the remaining like 700 people or however many it is now
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>>567203945
Apparently Bungie only has 850 people left after 2024. Which is no insignificant sum either, I want to say that was more than the amount of people they had around D1 maybe?
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Bungie is the darksydephil of gaming development
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>>567204616
i am pretty sure they had less than 500 at that point
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>>567204617
DSP was never good, bungie was
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>>567204770
Dsp is good at street fighter thoughbeit
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What went so horribly wrong
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>>567207176
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>>567207176
your judaism
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>>567207176
my disillusionment with judaism
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>>567207176
Jews
DEI
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>>567207176
commies
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>>567208905
>>567209062
>>567207997
BASED
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I forget how lucked in they are, sometimes.
Still dunno where this luminescent seed I got goes, I cracked all 3 of the big red hands in each location so I'm just wandering.
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>>567209973
There is no way to get rid of extra seeds, and there is no use for additional ones if you've done all the hands in all 3 zones.
It's on the list of "Top Issues Being Investigated" and has been since it was initially reported as a known issue
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>>567210461
Oh nice.
Do you get anything for cracking the hands then or is it just a pat on your own back?
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I didn't raise my hand.
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Say it.
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>>567210512
For doing all of them? No, you get nothing. Not even 5 triumph score.
They just each gave you one of those temporary buff things that you probably forgot even exists
The Pale Heart was a massive mix of half-good designs with horrible execution combined with a horrible starting premise of it being a solo destination. TFS does not deserve the good reviews it was given in the moment, it was just "better than Lightfall" in the campaign itself.
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>>567210709
I like Bungie
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>>567210972
i really disliked how the campaign was just character arc slop again, and most of it was about zavala of all people having a crisis of faith then deciding it doesn't matter anyway (lol), the west coastoid religion hate absolutely dripped from it. very offputting.
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>>567210972
>>567209973
>>567210461
I liked the in-destination mods, they were sometimes really amusing to play with, but they also came with a massively retarded idea of expiring every once in a while so that you had to regrind Pale Heart activities again to get them back. The infinitely dropping seeds are dumb as well.
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>>567210972
No triumph is kind of sad considering its like dozens of overthrows. Ah well.
I think the destination is fantastic, even if it's just one big corridor.
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>>567210972
Yeah Final Slops reviews were 100% Bungiedrones grossly inflating how good it was for 2 main reasons
>Desperate to make anything seem good after Shitefall
>The "end" of 10 years of Destiny
In reality the story was marvel tier garbage, one of the final cutscenes was Zavala literally standing there giving a speech while thousands of enemies just stand and watch
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>>567211384
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>>567211776
It also could be that they're desperate to make the game look so good because they don't want their friends at Bungie to be laid off. That's the other reason I could think of for why Edge of Fate was given 6's out of 10s despite the campaign truly being bad even by Destiny standards.
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>>567211437
The total retcon of Zavala's entire arc in Haunted really set me the wrong way; we build off of all the character backstory introduced then, but we conveniently forgot all the actual development he gained alongside it. It was badly done and should have been focused more on Targe's death instead of being a rerun of the same story beats. Or if it were more about (you), the Guardian, instead of about the radio jobbers who tell you what to do, that'd have been even better, and could have closed those plotholes about the player character instead of looping story beats from not that long ago (at the time).
The only reason TFS campaign was so character-focused on the original Vanguard leaders was for that "end of the game" Marvel trope, and it's all the worse for it.
>>567211603
If they were a one-time unlock it'd be fine, but that isn't enough CONTENT so they had to be a grind to get it again every 24 hours so no one bothered.
It's bad mobile game content design principles.
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>>567211776
The campaign was probably the second best one they've put out.
The individual level gimmicks actually felt really neat. Simple stuff like not being able to jump in the sandstorm made you evaluate the level geometry through unique lenses.
The writing was awful for everyone who wasn't cayde and uldren, though.
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>>567213468
>that isn't enough CONTENT
This, and the retarded grind for exotic class items and Ergo Sum copies. They scream for being craftable, and Bungo are capable of making perk unlocks into an actual items you can find in secrets, but they opted for RNG on top of RNG.
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>>567207831
i disagree, vanilla destiny 2 was probably the most damaging event and forsaken was just a fluke
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>>567213468
i liked haunted at the time well enough but they never went anywhere from it and just infinitely regressed the arcs even though it made no sense
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Please log in and play D2. You love Destiny, you love Bungie, you don't want them to suffer.
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>>567214520
that'd mean i'd have to buy the latest expansion which i'm not doing
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>>567214520
Bungie doesn't love us though, otherwise they wouldn't have acted the way they did when they left Activision.
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>>567214520
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>>567214520
>please login
No
>and play destiny 2
Hell no
>You love Destiny
Destiny 1 yeah
>you love Bungie
Lmao no
>you don't want them to suffer.
I want them raped gaped and fired
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d2 looked a lot better before the beyond light lighting/shader changes.
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Anon looked a lot better before he let himself go by eating mindlessly.
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>>567214035
That was my point, I agree
Haunted was "okay" as it was, but Bungie never did anything with it and seemingly forgot any character growth happened; same with Crow's "I am actually Uldren" arc that happened in TFS, he did it once before offscreen after Savathun gave him Uldren's memories in whatever season that was.
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>>567215367
this but i've lost 15 lbs recently
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>>567215745
better not have lost your fat ass
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>>567214520
ok
delete portal first
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>>567214991
>missed season of dawn
glim
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More like season of yawn
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Why do the Vex keep getting fucked over? They feel like everyone's bitch at this point.
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>>567215367
that was very hurtful anon i hit 30 and 4 months later i went from a stick to a potbelly
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I am...the ultimate indian....
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Saaarrr..
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Was Bungie lying over their reason for moving from Destiny to Destiny 2? A few years ago there was showcase circulating around for Destiny on PC (Through Emulation) and despite the game being visually buggy; what stood out was how everything loaded exceptionally well. Look at games like FFXIV or even Elder Scrolls Online, keep in mind came out the same year that Destiny did and they managed to overcome the problems with their games both of which had infinitely worse issues performance and engine limitations.
I guess what I'm trying to say is it just seems as if there was an ulterior motive to scorch earth and start again, and their obsession with burying Rise of Iron was always interesting because RoI was the last piece from that old Bungie era and I think that many of those devs and designers who worked on Destiny before release and on post launch content were already out the door by 2016-2017 so it would make sense for why nubungie had this weird chip on their shoulder because ultimately they weren't apart of that era and saw it as a inferior product to what they were eventually going to make.
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>>567222086
I think this is why the initial reactions to D2 scarred nuBungie. It's like they were under the impression that their version of Destiny was going to be better and it completely backfired.
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>>567222086
In the same way most leftists want you to believe that prior to modern times everyone was a latent homosexual anarchist repressed by their society that rewrote history to hide "what people were really like", bungie wants you to believe that everyone hated D1 and rewrote history to hide "what players actually hated". Bungie is full of leftists, by the way.
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>>567108903
PvP matchmaking in Destiny 2 works with platforms and not with inputs. PC players match with PC players regardless of inputs they use, MnK will play together with controllers in the same matchmaking pool. Consoles only match with consoles. Stadia (when it existed, lol) matched in the console pool. The only exception is a premade fireteam of PC players with a console crossplay teammate, they will also match in the PC pool.
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Rape bungie.
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Welcome to a Bungie that is raped. DMG is weak. Gaped. Cowering behind twitter. He's not jamming. He's merely forgotten the fear of layoffs. Allow me to reacquaint him. Marathon never deserved the attention Bungie gave it. I am Ghaul, and DMG's holes... are mine.
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>>567215367
I'm uhhhhhh building mass
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I wanna that juicy vex milk all over my body
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Vape Bungie
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>>567228981
we should do more ghaul rape memes
but he's so out of the collective consciousness of people these days that barely anyone remembers he raped everyone first
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>>567230824
Bungie trapped in "The Vault" because they were afraid of him
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>>567228981
>Dry Rot 32
>Custom-rigged hole puncher.
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>>567230824
Yes. This I know. This is why I have raped DMG's holes, and DOOMING is why /dg/ still lives. Bungie will choose Destiny, /dg/. And Sony are going to tell us how.
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Need some D1 advice. Population is understandably pretty low in the mid-game, but that's where I need my upgrades. I'm done with TTK main story but the missions after the main campaign are pretty rough. I'm also hitting a point where most of my quests are endgame stuff, so I'm not ready for those either. I feel like the game kinda has a power gap here. Am I just supposed to grind out power in TTK Strikes? LL ~225. Also tried doing the second level of Prison of Elders, the hive focused one, and I couldn't get through Wave 4. Definitely need more powerful gear.

What would you guys suggest to do?
picrel was the last time i logged on to d2
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>>567232313
Reach level 40.
Are you leveling up factions for packages? At rank three or four you can get armor or weapons, and sometimes a ghost or class item drops as well.
Are you buying high level gear from the speaker?
Are you buying higher gear from Xur?
Are you running crucible matches for easy leveled up drops?
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>>567214882
Their behavior before leaving activision was just as bad anon, don't remember the exp throttling controversy back when most eververse engrams would usually be some shitty copy of a shader you don't like?
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>>567232786
Am level 40 yesp.
The faction rep for any of them feels super slow but i got Vanguard, rahool, and banshee to level 1. Oh and I did donate for 1 level at FWC.
I didn't even know that dude sold gear.
I got a 350 Helm of Saint gaypeen when I noticed him.
Nar, I'm pretty bad at PvP on the controller.
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>>567229021
Anon... It's time to stop lying to yourself. Please.
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>>567229021
Fat fuck fall is just around the corner, keep bulking.
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>>567233123
You do not get extra gear for being good in crucible, you just need to complete matches. Just make sure you have your highest level gear equipped or it will reduce the level of the awards. This counts for pvp or anything.
Spend all your glimmer on weapon/armor parts from the gunsmith. Turn those in to FWC to level them up faster. And turn in motes of light.
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>>567077152
This is why everybody and their brother uses hand cannons in D2 pvp, ain't it? They're piss easy to use and get headshots with with the bullet magnetism that's also in destiny.
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>>567233680
better late than never realizing this
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>>567233809
to be fair I'm new to Destiny, I started when the final shape dropped. Played it for a while afterwards, did some Raids with friends, then stopped playing it. I did enjoy the PvP but the cookie-cutter easy mode combo of handcannon + shotgun that like 80% of players ran ruined any fun that could be had for me.
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>>567234028
extremely generous aim assist is bungie's secret sauce since halo 2
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Why didn't you watch Mactics latest video?
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>>567234930
I don't like him, he's too much of a Bungie cock-sucker.
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>>567234930
watching someone else play destiny is extremely boring
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>>567235445
mactics for sure, but not all
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>>567235665
i do like this dude
he a real one
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>>567235665
Cross will be the only destiny creator to survive the great rapening of Bungie.
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>7:30PM on a Saturday
>Destiny 2 is the most raped and dead it's ever been
>Still more populated than Marathon
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>>567237229
in 2 weeks there's a new poe2 league
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>>567237229
west coast peak incoming.
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>>567237229
>Destiny 2 has the larger 24-hour peak
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>>567235665
https://youtu.be/kJfO5FiFfaE?t=41
So what was the "Hope" he was talking about?
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>>567237789
The hope is that Bungie will die and be punished for their deeds.
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>>567237365
are they gonna do a free week again
also fuck whoever nerfed int stacking EB Cast on Crit on poe1, fucking VISION bullshit
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>>567237789
whatever it was, its definitely no longer the case. i imagine it was something that should have happened by now, which is why he's gone full doomgod lately.
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>>567240138
He said "What would give you 'hope' in Destiny? Now go to the top of that list and think about which would give you the most 'hope'?". To me it sounded like they were working on a Destiny Classic in some form or they were beginning full on preproduction of D3, which has now been canned in favor of saving face with Marathon. Shit, I wouldn't even be shocked if they try to just take whatever PvE aspects they planned out to D3 and scale it down significantly to give to Marathon as an attempted TTK/Forsaken-tier paid expansion.
Attempted being the keyword because it might just be WQ at best.
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>>567241272
Keep in mind that Cross also totally lied about Luke Smith being back when he said "the lead designer of VoG is back, working on Destiny".
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Marty O'Donnell (COMPOSER OF DESTINY 1) had his event. Which one is the Destiny fan?
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>>567243249
These 2 because only uncs like destiny 1
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>>567242786
I think he was being more disingenous with that statement more than anything. Because he is correct that a lead designer of VoG was back on Destiny but it wasn't Luke Smith it was some other dude that has worked at Bungie for a really long time.
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>>567243389
>only uncs have better taste in games
what a strange thing to admit
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>>567243389
holy shit, is that stains on the left?
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>>567243389
These men are 32 years old.
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>>567244383
Yup thanks for proving my point
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>>567243249
holy FUCK
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>>567244551
No problem, you should back to your Roblox dress to impress or whatever it is you fags play.
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>>567244659
okay, i support whatever marty supports politically. that is some nice tail.
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>>567244659
Marty fucked this
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>>567244659
Holy hips
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>>567244659
I look like this (not really)
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>>567244659
Wider
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>>567222086
Their developers are retarded and build over shitty architecture they don't want to fix. WoW did it perfectly; FFXIV has to keep removing old console support for their upgrades to work. Bungie? Delete half the content.
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>>567247535
How did WoW do it perfectly? They removed all of their good shit too.
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el rento loot
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>>567248797
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>>567247832
At least Cataclysm replaced the removed content with an equivalent amount of new/remade content. The content was no where near as good, sure, but at least it was something and they didn't just swindle the player base and remove everything with nothing in return.
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>>567249236
It's better than what Bungie did but it was still bad, hardly "perfect"
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Blackmage in 14 is fun
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>>567244659
MartyGODS... I kneel.
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>>567244659
>she will never handcuff you and ride you all night while listening to music of the spheres
why even live, bros?
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>>567033079
Sorry sis, I'm straight. Can't play gacha or mouseslop, it's in the rules.
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>literally have to wait around to finish a quest
Is this something I could potentially fail and be waiting another half hour for?
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>>567250238
You'd have to get disconnected to fail that shit
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>>567213836
>"forsaken was a fluke"
>activision saved bungie's ass
ftfy
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>>567249374
>>567247832
Did you forget that bungie removes shit with almost every expansion or?
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>>567250812
No
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>>567250812
It wasn't that bad until Shadowkeep. The fact that Bungie thought that people wouldn't feel ripped off that seasonal activties and storylines get removed each expansion is ridiculous.
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>>567251878
Activities isn't too bad, which I know sounds like cope, but you ran that shit into the ground and they were able to keep it coming in a new flavor
In that regard, the portal (tm) should have existed earlier. Removing it as a main activitiy but just making a 6 player pve playlist after like a year could have been really cool.
Vaulting exists because D2's infrastructure wasn't made to handle more than 3 years, though.
If only Activision had the whip.
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So what will his cope be when the game wins no awards?
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>>567253949
"The Keighleys aren't a REAL awards ceremony, they're just what he likes!"
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>>567249507
was*
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Make sure to bully Bungie employees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMkccqojO10
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>>567253949
why do you all give these people so much attention?
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>>567253235
At least with Activision there was never a feeling that they betrayed your expectations like Bungie. There was always the assumption that they were a greedy game company and they definitely can be shitty with how they shut down some CoD PC server clients, but at least they kept their 360 era servers online for ungodly long lengths of time.
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>>567255443
The evil we know!
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>>567253235
The seasonal activities for the first two years of seasons, were only available for a few months each. It wasn't until just a few years ago where they made seasonal activities hang around for a year. All seasonal activities should have never existed, and the effort should have gone towards one new fleshed out destination per year.
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>>567256190
I remember, I hopped on during Forsaken.
>All seasonal activities should have never existed, and the effort should have gone towards one new fleshed out destination per year.
This is valid and I agree with that. 1-2x menagerie a year would have been insane.
Honestly I'm most upset by Year of Prophecy because I think the CADENCE is what we should have always had.
There should have been a big DLC (TTK, Forsaken, TWQ), a 6 month wait, then something smaller that would be akin to our better seasons (seraph, arrivals, etc).
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 18724
Destiny 2: 57157
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>>567256630
PvE will save Marathon and finally kill Destiny 2 for good
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>>567256630
>D2 has over 3x players
$3.6b btw
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>>567254991
Um..............it still is...
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>>567256190
Not even 1 fleshed out destination per year, the effort could have gone to anything else. It could have gone to making sure we didn't have to wait another 5 years for additional Crucible maps. It could have gone to adding more Gambit maps. It could have even gone into making more Strikes, and we saw what they did in Forsaken when they had 3 seasons and 2 extra support studios on board. We had 3 raids in one year; Last Wish in Forsaken, Scourge of the Past and Crown of Sorrow. I think even during Shadowkeep we got 2 dungeons that year.

>>567256373
It would have at least made it so that it didn't feel like you were an abused spouse constantly stuck playing D2. They just fucked up originally proposing a "seasonal reset" to your Light Level, just because they have this bizarre obsession with keeping players stuck in an endless treadmill.
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>>567253949
who?
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24h peak for destiny 2 is higher than marathon on a saturday
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>>567253949
This guy looks weird
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>>567253949
It has >Who now? And it's going to lose unless the Journo's snub the competition in favour of Marathon aka the game they themselves are hard filtered from playing. Would be very easy to pay them off with the implication that their decision holds any favour.
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>>567260753
hey wait a second
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>>567261038
Yeah, it's easier to see them rig it in favor of Mixtape or GTA6 than even remotely give Marathon a GOTY. Maybe a nomination like
>Best Multiplayer Game of the Year
or
>Best Studio Support
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>>567260753
He looks like that faggot NPC with the glasses
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>>567253949
Iran war
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>>567247832
WoW players are more lobotomized than Destiny players
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Where is Dominus Ghaul? Is he safe? Is he alright?
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I wonder what kind of arguments and shenanigans would be had if anons from /dg/ were suddenly all placed into leadership positions in bungie. I'd also love to see what a twid would like too.. would uh.. anyone be willing to type one out for fun.. it doesnt have to be long
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>>567237229
Blastxisters...
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>>567266838
Vaulted... never to be seen again...
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>>567267710
throw 10 most recent threads into an LLM
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>>567243249
Strange to see what normal people look like compared to Bungie employees
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>>567276352
uh...is it? do you not go outside ever or something?
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>>567276352
Not defending bungo, but have you ever been to Walmart or Costco or any major shopping mall for that matter? Bungoids look pretty mild and even normal in comparison, at least by American standards.
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>>567267710
D1 og's vs. D2 fags vs. Forsaken nublights. Just like how it goes here.
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>>567282565
Hearing forsaken nublights when they've been with the game for 2/3 of its life is pretty funny, honestly.
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>>567282565
>D3 should be gunplay focused like D1
>D3 should be ability focused like D2
>D3 should have evergreen content like D1
>D3 should have seasonal content like D2 to keep ot fresh
>D3 should be planned around being a complete game with only three years of content
>D3 should be THE DESTINY with all prior content and all future content
>D3 should go back to a more realistic and grounded design and weapons should be moddable again
>D2 weapon mods are better than switching your optic and weapon perks should make enemies explode while healing you
Etc.
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Guns should feel like abilities.
I stand by the most fun guns to use in the game are Outbreak and Thorn+Necrotic. Outbreak is a super addictive loop that feels like you got a new little cheat, and Thorn+Necrotic has similar amazing crowd control abilities.
I don't need to be casting rifts and nades and melees 24/7, but I also don't want 2 minutes of plink plonking with your "crispy" 180 HC. That's boring.
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>>567282734
Forsaken came out almost 4 years to the day after the launch of Destiny. It came out closeer to the launch of the franchise, than we are to forsaken's launch now.
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>>567283296
See, like this patrol god here has demonatrated for us. No, guns should feel like guns, and act like guns. Exotics can have mild effects, but the current idea philosophy needs to go.
>my exotic rifle weakens enemies i look at, then makes me invisible everytime i kill a weakened enemy, who also explodes
>my rifle has unlimited range and deals a gaxillion precision damage, it also makes enemies explode, and releases seekers that make enemies they hit explode
>my smg deals more damage after every kill, and refills all ammo after every kill, and makes enemies explode while i shoot them
>my legendary heals me everytime i reload, also it makes enemies explode, which can make surrounding enemies explode
D2 is a parody of the ip
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>>567283832
I'm not all in on the current design, but building guns to loop into your abilities and your abilities to loop into your guns is the most fun in the game.
We don't need a world of outlaw kill clip for all eternity. Incandescent is cool.
I listed a retooled D1 exotic and a D1 ported exotic, that, when paired with an exotic armor, produces a strong, unique effect. I'm not out here saying every gun needs to be release Osteo Striga.
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Commencing Operation Piccolo!
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>>567284118
Get rid of damage increasing perks. D1 only had luck in the chamber, headseeker, final round, crowd control(rampage), and firefly. These perks weren't even always best in slot for most guns. Bis for D2 weapons is always a damage/explosion perk because the game is balanced around you having a damage buff from your equipment or class, plus a damage buff on your weapon, plus some kind of debuff on the enemy.
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>>567284118
Both thorn and outbreak are very different from their D1 versions. Thorn has infinite ammo, which used to be it's own exotic perk in early D2, and was only on bad juju in D1. Almost every current legendary can get an infinite ammo perk. Outbreak also gets rewind rounds, which again, used to be an exotic/exclusive perk in D1, which now can be rolled on almost every gun available. Powercreep has corrupted the once decent gunplay
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>>567285402
>>567286160
I'd be down for gutting both the clip renewal perks and the damage perks, assuming Bungie still remembers how to design HP pools (they don't).
I just want fun abilities and builds that dig deep into interactions, and the usual sentiment I feel comes from people opposed to that is
>ttk should be 3 seconds and this should apply to both pvp and pve because the idea of moving outside this corner is sacrilegious
I guess my emphasis is engines should exist, and it sounds like people wanting "guns should feel like guns, and act like guns" desire zero of that. Just medal of honor tier gunplay 2 and a half decades later.
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>>567285402
this
damage perks are actual cancer for balance
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>>567286418
D1 has a lower ttk for primary weapons. D2's ttk is made to seem lower because each weapon can have perks that wipe out a squad in 1 kill or 1 bullet. I don't know how the special weapon ttk stacks up these days because they keep going back and forth with their nerfs/buffs. However the same rule applies. One waveframe with chain reaction, would easily wipe twenty enemies in one shot. Red bars may as well not even exist anymore, since their only purpose is to trigger ability effects and drop ammo. They're not a threat and can be all one tapped by any of the infinite uptime abilities every class has.
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>>567287282
I feel like you're talking past me after I agreed.
I don't mind lowering the power level, but what I want is interactivity between guns, abilities, and passives to create unique, fun gameplay loops.
I actually used Felwinter's Helm when it dropped solely because the idea of chaining finishers together to chain weakens across a room was very fun. This got even crazier when collective obligation dropped, letting me manage all these different debuffs to leach and apply, saving an add to kill that had all 3 when the timer ran out, etc. That's the fun part of destiny to me, making everything come together and get this engine going.
The engine doesn't have to kill 50 enemies a minute, but it has to feel like I'm doing something with my entire kit instead of 3 guns and 3 abilities with zero cohesion.
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>>567287282
They started trying to phase out red bars in the middle of Lightfall's year to prevent exotic primaries from being good at killing the random fodder.
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>>567287282
Guns should not be able to get voltshot, volatile rounds, or incandescent as perks. Any verb or adjective that damages or debuffs an enemy should come from an ability. That said, each class needs a near-instant cast buff that empowers their weapons temporarily with an appropriate subclass effect. Like a hunter dodge that reloads your gun and loads it with one mag of incandescent rounds. Titan casts an overshield and gets one mag of destabilizing rounds. And so on.
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>>567287527
Going back to >>567282565 and >>567267710. There's no way to make a game that appeases those three core groups. D1 players and D2 players and especially post Forsaken players, will never agree on what Destiny should look like from a gameplay perspective. I specifically point out forsaken, because it intoduced infinite looping ability spam, so for players who jumped in there, that's all they know Destiny to be, and if they're still playing, it's because they enjoy that play style.
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Total bungie death
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>>567289838
Were it so easy.
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After 900 hours in D2 and about 30 in D1, D1 is the superior game by a long shot, and some changes to a potential D3 should get closer to those D1 roots. D2 is a lost cause.
>keep abilities simple but heavy hitting or impactful, no ability loops
>your primary way of dealing damage should be your fucking weapons
>precision multiplier needs to be as powerful as it is in D1
>loot should be on an actual curve, blues should be your bread and butter until you get to endgame, and that journey should take time
>chasing a god roll should also take time, and "making do with good enough" should be possible through skill, with a god roll weapon being a major power spike
>encounters should not be full of pack size spam, they should be properly balanced for gunplay with the occasional ability for heavy removal or crowd control
>weapons added in D2 can easily fit into this sandbox if treated as actual weapons and not ability boosters
>abilities should be strongly defensive or strongly offensive, no half measures
What I wouldn't do for a D3 with D1s fundamentals in mind. Keep the power curve in check. Keep the SHOOTER part of looter shooter. Make me feel like the enemies are a threat again instead of a bullet sponge.
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>>567290513
But what about muh power fantasy? I don't like when enemies dodge my grenades or avoid walking into my lingering damage pools. They also shouldn't dodge rockets, and they should stand still in the open when i start shooting at them from a mile away.
>i pity anyone that actually enjoys current D2
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>>567291408
if you return to D1 levels of super regeneration, you get a LOT of supers, there's your fantasy
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I miss destiny
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>>567291408
There's things I like about current D2
>strand and stasis
>expanded weapon sandbox
>aspects and fragments system
Stats and builds should be a thing but things should not be able to loop into each other, making your abilities feel like the prime driver. Your abilities in D1 feel like a power spike, something to use when you're overwhelmed or need a specific job done. D2, it's ability loop spam and instant room clear. When was the last time a fallen walker felt like a boss fight? When was the last time a Strike felt like anything other than mindless mob deletion?

D1 feels so fucking good, and I guarantee no current D2 dev has even played it.
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>>567291943
>expanded weapon sandbox
As much as I like the weapon types in d2 that sandbox is harshly segregated to seasonal meta with champion mods or power advantages + weapon nerfs/Buffs for that particular season
Such a sandbox shouldn't be limited and should be open for everyone to use
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>>567291943
There's no weapon sandbox. That phrase implies you get to be creative. What D2 has is a weapon toy chest. Every time they attempt a rebalance, one new weapon, and one very specific frame or rpm of that weapon, becomes the new meta. Using anything else feels like garbage, because they nerfed the range, damage, accurracy, whatever, usually every possible stat from whatever was the previous meta, with the exception of handcannons. They then balance every single activity that drops leveled gear, around the new meta, so playing with your old favorite guns is made objectively worse.
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>>567292992
true
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>>567284118
sounds like you just want more diablo and path of exile
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>>567284118
>yes, I don't care what my gun is or what it even does for damage, as long as it applies -SUBCLASS VERB- so I can use -ABILITY-
That isn't Destiny then. You aren't using the gun as a gun, you're using it as a stat stick, which is how PoE or WoW are built.
This gives you a major balance issue as well, because now EVERY weapon either needs one of these perks retrofitted onto every single roll, the elemental perks are made intrinsic (and all weapons with the perk become useless like full auto trigger pulse rifles now), or the weapons without these perks are less than useless and will be ignored.
Or sunsetting again, which will make people not engage, as we have seen.
>>567285402
D1 also had Reactive Reload, which is just Kill Clip. It could roll on guns alongside Crowd Control to have both at once. The idea of double damage perks has been in Destiny since the inception, and it wasn't even considered strong in D1Y1 because the perk timers were so short.
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rape rape rape rape
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>prismatic was just gonna be a thing that happened in the pale heart
>they panicked and made it a full subclass due to no content
>gameplay is forever poisoned by it
neat
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We will rape Bungie once again when mid-may comes and goes without news of their mythical June update. DMG will be taken by Escharum and raped in the rape dungeons. The rest will await rape and extermination by Sony.
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>numerous people playing D1 again or for the first time
>The rose tinted glasses argument is finally being put to rest and can't be used anymore
Thank fucking god. I was so sick of hearing that.
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>>567309378
We really did go full circle and bungshills are finally done
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>>567307421
>It's not enough to say them. You've got to MEAN them.
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to this day i still cannot fathom how the fuck the narrative department went from witch queen to light fall. did bungie seriously believe that going from an update shrouded in lore going all the way back to d1 to fucking neomuna that was literally introduced as a concept in the very end of the previous season.
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>>567310445
>how
Here's a paraphrase of what happened:
>Okay guys I know we just finished WQ and we're getting ready for Lightfall, but we need more time to finish it (to get more money for Marathon)
>so we're renaming it to The Final Shape and we need something, ANYTHING, to be sold as Lightfall
>go nuts, do whatever, we don't care, just don't interfere with the plot beats already planned out for TFS. You can add stuff in between points A and B but don't change where point B is
And voila, you now have the "what if we made an 80s action movie with a narcissistic fart fetishist troon as the main character (but we also skip all the cool stuff in 80s action movies)"
The LF we got wasn't supposed to happen at all, it is intentionally nonsense filler.
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>>567309825
It's amazing to think about just how many people were still riding bungies cock during final shape and immediately came to their defense whenever you criticized them but now? Everyone has finally caught up with /dg/ and now have the same mindset. Even the most loyal BDF have now turned against them with only mentally ill marasissies left to defend bungie
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>>567311014
Don't forget
>To make it appear more legit, take Strand out of Witch Queen and add it to Lightfall instead
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>>567311375
Sovl
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I'd boot up D1 right now if I didn't have to pay for online but I ain't doing that shit no more. It is beneath me.
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>>567311220
True, that changes the paraphrase to:
>We finished writing WQ, but we need a filler year to finish LF, so we're renaming it to TFS
>so take Strand (or whatever it was called in development) and make some nonsense filler to make money and buy time, but don't interfere with the TFS plot points
For all the glazing Joe Blackburn gets, his refusal to break ranks on the "Strand wasn't cut from WQ" talking point that was blatantly a lie still gets me how Bungie drones were vehemently defending it. "If -Bungie dev- says it, it's true" from otherwise completely rational people who took everything (other than what Bungie said) with a grain of salt in my own life was a big part of realizing the "turn -brand- into religion" thing was true.
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>>567311375
>>567311529
Rise of Iron and Wrath of the Machine were a filler expansion and raid while D2 was being prepped, how is it infinitely better than anything they could shit out for 90% of D2's life?
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>>567311729
Yeah especially since it's mostly P2P, total scam.
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>>567312305
Activision put heart and soul into it
Bungie did it for a paycheck
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>>567311014
it was obvious it was filler slop but i'm seriously trying to form an idea on why it made so badly. literally everything from the dlc was dogshit and repulsive.
>nimbus and osiris
>city destination with no populace
>questionable OST
>public event schedules
>red border drop rates being nerfed
>missing weapons
>the veil
>shitty exotics
>blackheart was actually a vex veil copy
>strand was initially timegated
>season of the defiance
>calus becoming a disciple and dying on the same day
at least strand was pretty fun but like most people realized it was in fact originally intended for witch queen. also the later seasons were pretty fun in my experience
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>>567311859
It gets worse when you go back and compare the designs of the thread worms/Parasite to the Strand "threadlings", it makes it even more painfully obvious that Strand was cut from WQ.
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>>567312798
>i'm seriously trying to form an idea on why it made so badly
Because it was made at a time where buyers were unnecessary. The diversity grants made up for it. By doing some accounting magic you can make a profit on it by government DEI kickback.
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>>567312305
rise of iron wasn't made by bungie and realized the importance of "rule of cool"
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>>567311859
>so take Strand (or whatever it was called in development
vapor - probably was going to be a new form of hive magic. but we couldnt have that, so we got subversion instead
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>>567312912
Didn't people know that the platforms you had to activate were there because the levels were originally designed for Strand? I don't remember how we would have known that, but I knew it was a weird "mechanic" that felt lazy and like a bandaid for something.
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>>567313245
it was obvious from the start with stuff like infested rounds, threadlings being literal worm retextures, and later on even stuff like banner of war. fuck, i bet the original 'strand' would have attached each class to a hive god too
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>>567312798
In order
>PNW hubris and Ivory Tower politics with a helping of ESG investment by the government via NGOs and abuse of Covid stimulus money
>lazy devs
>PNW hubris
>engagement metrics
>engagement metrics
>lazy devs
>bad writers doing an asspull
>bad design
>bad writers doing an asspull of pre-approved "things to write from"
>engagement metrics
>bad writers
>bad writers wanting to get rid of a popular character that they personally disliked (evil man, etc) to drive home the "HE IS BAD" since the literal "kill your daughter's puppy" didn't work to character assassinate him
>>567312912
I knew about "Infested rounds" on LF release, the "threads" stuff in WQ's campaign, the fact threadlings are worm reskins and the warlock super icon on the WQ destination chest piece, but I never connected the dots to Parasite. It makes a lot of sense that it'd have been "Threadlings: the gun" instead of the most boring burst damage weapon design possible.
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>>567311375
>Dido-A: Wanderer, your journey will end with ~SIVA
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I just remembered that quicksilver is literally just SIVA but le good
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>>567315115
siva but gay and lame
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if bungie hates siva so much why havent they gutted outbreak?
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>>567315573
They did. They neutered it and shitted on it in ash of iron to promote the fact siva will never comeback
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>>567311859
It's especially annoying when they defend Blackburn playing semantics (it wasn't called strand when it was intended for WQ, so it's technically true while being a lie) but ignore Green saying that it, as vapor, was intended for WQ.
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Why do people call echo chamber a bad strike? I actually thought it was really cool. Im pretty certain that this wa a strike I didn't get to play in D1 years ago because I was on XBOX.
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>>567316436
Destiny 2 is so fucking ugly
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its quite funny seeing how early on SIVA did in fact made its way into d2, only for bungie to kill off rasputin and SIVA altogether
>exodus crash strike concept art had SIVA emerging from the wreckage
>eramis personally attempting to steal outbreak in zero hour
not to mention multiple voicelines directly mentioning SIVA, and dozens of references in lore entries
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>>567315673
did they? i thought it got a crafted option with rewind rounds or whatever that elevated it a ton
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>Subnautica devs are vehemently against being able to kill sea creatures, despite being able to do it in previous entries
>you literally can't damage them
>you are surrounded by immortal fish that constantly nibble at your feet, and you can't really do much about it in your immersive sim
>"go play Forest or DOOM if you want to kill" basically a dev response
>people actually trip over each other to defend that and conjure ridiculous strawmans
What's with all these arrogant devs and their fanboys lately? Why are they treating fucking '''gaming'''' like cops with their Us vs Them mentality?
nuBungie is the same. When it became hip to hate your own fucking players? Do these idiots don't realize that such approach ain't helping anybody?
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>>567315115
I like how no one evens believes ACKsilver is better than SIVA because we never actually see it being better. We're just told it's better. How? It just is you fucking CHUD
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>>567316910
its post BL bungie, the same bungie that pushed the witness and insisted the entire light and dark saga was all about him the whole time. theyre the ones with a vendetta against what came before, they spent so much time and effort remaking the lore in their image.
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>>567317060
>its real
lol wtf
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If you actually listen to the dialogue in Witch Queen you realize the writing is shit. Debra Wilson just played Savathun well back then, before they turned her into a sassy quirk chungus yaas queen in later seasons and Final Shape. Debra Wilson even sounds more black in Season of the Witch and onward.
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>>567316970
Oh gameplay wise? Idk I only see people use it when pulse rifle stun is available for the season
I was referring to the lore so mb
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>>567317568
All of Destiny 2's writing is shit.
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>>567317060
At least immersive sims tend to kill studios. Trying to go from a thalassophobia survival game to a narrative-driven environmentalist campaign was a retarded move, but it should have been obvious from Below Zero that the original's success was an accident.
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>>567310445
Witch Queen also was bad, it just didn't have that annoying framing. It boiled plots down to daddy/sister issues and brought us The Witness and attempted to retcon Winnower out of lore, at least that's my impression with all that flip-flopping Bungie did.
Whole Human Guardians vs Hive Guardians conflict was absolutely squandered and wasn't really explored, we didn't get anything out of it, save for Luzaku, and she is still nothing more than background curiosity. Could've been cool if we actually got named characters/rivals that constantly hounded us and existed to get beating like Saturday morning cartoon villains. Imagine Hive Ghosts actually trying to do propaganda, beg for life, anything, instead of just screeching?
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>>567318112
I'm still annoyed that they spent the entire year on building up her song spreading and influencing everyone from civilians to the most important Guardians, only for it to get dropped entirely. Maybe we'll find out someday if the delay was just to rip out the subclass or if it was to write in the Witness.
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Our tax dollars should go to helping bungie out of this mess
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>>567318530
Even just the fact that the grand plan of Savathun was to just piss off Guardians, instead of trying to do uneasy/temporary alliance against universe ending threat feels quite stupid from the God of Cunning who also tried to break the 4th wall. Obviously, she got fucking rinsed. Quite a poor showing.
I realize it's just looter shooter game, and we needed something to shoot at it, so all these cool interactions were never happening anyway, but still, I can't help but to be disappointed.
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>>567318112
Remember the horrible "detective" subplot with Ikora trying to piece together the obvious truth that The Traveler voluntarily gave Savuthun the Light? The seal is called "Gumshoe" cause they were trying to push this faggy idea were we solving a heckin 1920s crimerino. Bungie writers and creative directors have been hacks for a long time.
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>>567300038
The actual gameplay loop of Destiny's movement and gunplay is what keeps me, though. I do not care for looters,
>>567301635
I think just gutting the damage on the guns with the subclass verbs could be a good way to make everyone happy. Easier up front access to damage for "basic" guns, but a stronger engine that creates greater power over longer stretches of time.
I don't like you saying I'm not using the gun as a gun solely because what I want is a gun that IS the engine. This is why Collective Obligation was such a great weapon. You use the rest of your kit to feed into this thing, which then dispenses debuffs like candy for a set period of time. It's really fun to achieve that.
I admit I'm here for the power fantasy of being a space wizard with guns, and it's been that way since when I played the D1 Beta back on ps3. That's what drew me to the series.
There has to be space between "guns do cool things" and "I have nothing manacles with infinite grenades", and I feel like you're implying that's impossible.
To be fair, maybe it is with the current devs.
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>>567318948
There were flickers of something kind of interesting as she was dying, confused by us not prioritizing the Traveler above all else and letting her protect it forever, but there was no room for basic philosophy when they had to make their detective expansion lead into their 80s action movie expansion.
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>>567319045
>trying to push this faggy idea were we solving a heckin 1920s crimerino
That's always annoyed me about nuBungie, instead of just relying on your own strengths and good writing, they always go for amusement park style themes, with surface level depth that doesn't go further than a catchy marketing slogan and themed Eververse drops.
Like the Pirate season with Plunder. Oh, and your mandatory ham fisted reference to other properties (Jodorowsky's Dune), see, I'm consuming heckin' mediarino.
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>>567319109
They should just decrease the damage of subclass verbs on guns but let them boosted by damage perks. Most guns should roll with either a weaker AOE subclass perk or a damage perk and only dungeon and raid guns should roll with both. So shit like Voltshot couldn't kill an entire room but it would do a lot of damage if you also had Kill Clip or OFA active.
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>>567312305
bungie didn't make it.
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Death, the end of all things. But the dream is not over. Bungie's dream..., yours.... now... run.
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What really rubbed me the wrong way about Destiny 2's story post beyond light were all the centralized female characters.
The "I'm a woman and I hate my father figure!" plotlines went on for years, and honestly I think caital was the only one that actually kind of had an interesting plotline in season of the haunted
Even when a specific character like uldren got some screen space, they were still shitting on him with petra and mara sov nonstop. Like what the hell.
Mithrax? He gets raped by eido in every dialogue

It got to the point where any interest I had in the seasonal narrative before season 12 was completely lost. I just couldn't even bother caring anymore, it felt like they were raping everyone who existed before beyond light. which in my opinion says a lot about whoever was writing this bullshit.
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>>567319109
Weapons need to be worth using on their own, not JUST because of perks. That was my point. Not to say that any roll should be able to compete with a "god roll," just that a build should not 100% rely on a particular gun having a damage perk or a subclass effect perk, because both of those scenarios are bad for sandbox health; the former because it makes "the meta" whatever archetype has the best base dps (see Recluse in Shadowkeep), the latter because it invalidates every roll that doesn't have one of those perks (see MIDA Mini-Tool in Haunted). I also greatly dislike the mono-element push that element perks created; what if I want to use a void primary with an Arc subclass? No, says the man in Bellevue, WA, you MUST segregate.

It should be only on exotic weapons and be like the Fighting Lion rework, which on a side-note was a huge buff due to Bungie being bad at coding their own game (it can reload itself off of its volatile explosions).
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>>567322675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T75Pc2bfB1I
I'm here to remind you how badly they squandered Clovis.
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>>567322675
Had to check the numbers because it's been so long.
Chosen was good, but Splicer was the first real sign we'd lost the fucking plot. Hunt being shit was expected, the DLC seasons were always shit. Haunted and Seraph were good, but it is mostly on the weaker side after 12, that's fair.
I hate the permanent health gimmick they shifted to for Wish or I'd rank it high as well.
>>567322939
I think we'd just make it so you could, simple as. Make perks that don't work into the engines have higher returns immediately. I still use my beloved Until Its Return with 0 strand perks because I genuinely love how it feels.
But, as you (rudely) started with, I'm a patrol god. I stopped doing harder difficulty ever since they "brought the challenge back" with lightfall, making every piece of content a fucking slog to fight through because they NEEDED you to be operating at their increased power level to even think of glancing at a nightfall or lost sector.
The possibility of casual optimization is gone in this current iteration, with players either going full retard (where I'm at now, I stopped caring) or full sweat with the EXACT build bungie allows for the season. It sucks.
But I'll be frank, if it comes down to absolutely dressed down vs full zoomer adhd gameplay, I'd take the latter every day. Destiny clearly wants to be a fast movement, higher apm game, and watching clips of "good gameplay" (place the Mars GM clip here) makes me cringe in disgust.
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>>567323078
Remember when for a brief moment they teased the idea of clovis being a new major villain (possible raid boss?) Yeah I remember.
What a let down.
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>>567323078
fuck you dude
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>>567323624
It's frankly hilarious how completely they dropped him, dude is just gathering dust in Europa, we didn't even do the courtesy of blowing up his facility or something, he is just there, forgotten.
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Does she even work there anymore? She was such a bitch
>OH NO I HAVE TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE
>THE HORROR
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>>567324378
just check her linkedin or something
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>>567323593
>players either going full retard (where I'm at now, I stopped caring) or full sweat with the EXACT build bungie allows for the season
That's my point on the elemental perks as part of the problem. You either don't engage with them, not caring about them, knowing you're performing badly and limiting yourself because of it, or you play into them and are heavily incentivized to stay on the treadmill because the content you're doing requires them.
The current system requires heavy investment to receive anything worth having in return, and that's why the playerbase nosedived. To make "patrol gods" stick around, they need to be rewarded with SOMETHING worth keeping, to feel like their time isn't being wasted and they're progressing in some little way.
The way they did it in Forsaken with specific drops from Lost Sectors was a great incentive and I wish they had kept it and expanded it; I still have Grove of Ulan-Tan burned into my memory from Thin Line farming back during Forsaken.
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>>567324000
>he is just there, forgotten.
You will live long enough to see him used for their disappointing post-light and dark saga storylines that no one cares about
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I'm putting together a playlist, any suggestions?
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>>567325217
https://youtu.be/ytWz0qVvBZ0?si=buBd3ccpB4h-koPP
https://youtu.be/quGjvowgqaI?si=jnMRFQQGgVPA7Kzk
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>>567324378
I think she started calling herself nonbinary and got promoted.
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>>567324702
Elemental perks are only good cause they do AOE damage, but there's other perks that do too. Anything with firefly, dragonfly, detonator beam, or chain reaction is still good. You can also use wave frame and those energy pool GLs and various swords. If you just want to plink shit in the head use anything with a basic damage and reload perk, it still works fine.
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>>567313187
>subversion
Sometimes I don't understand why on Earth every single piece of media and their creator nowadays try to SuBvErT ExPeCtAtIoNs. Revenant had that idiotic theme of 'we're doing vampires but without the generic vampire stuff you're used to'. Why? Bungie didn't have that kind of attitude during the 'pirate' season.

>>567313853
Warlock also has three glowing hive eyes while casting Needlestorm, and all characters get three during the animation played when touching the Strand buff in the world. WQ finale had 'threads' holding down the Traveler, weavers as wizards maintaining the 'spell', and killing them gave you the Threadcutter buff against Savathun. Joe is just full of shit when he says it wasn't meant to be Strand, and Bungie's sycophants were all to eaget to post memes about random green things that ARE TOTALLY HIVE MAGIC, BUNGIE HID IT FROM US to divert people's attention.
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What is with all these bad actors trying to chalk up Destiny's resurgence as some sort protest to D2' content drought or a movement pushed by content creators?

D1 was literally just a better game
Better artstyle
Better gunplay
Better grind
Better game design
Better story and lore

And I can feel contentedness playing d1 that i havent felt for d2 in years
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>>567323078
id rather you didnt
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>>567326597
because lefties don't create stuff they just deconstruct or invert or subvert
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What ehappened to that fag who used to call destiny 1's armor design halo tactical shit? Did he finally jump off a bridge?
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>>567325217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P84QL90Xfss
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>>567327112
Xes blasting in marathon
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LOL
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>>567317060
>>567317379
>>567317837
Unknown Worlds (Subnautica devs) have always been megacucks high on their own farts. They made Natural Selection 1 and 2 (team-based multiplayer FPS with some RTS elements thrown in with resources, upgrades and base building, think Starcraft's Terran vs Zerg kind of game), and Subnautica is a part of that franchise, the story happens in the same universe. When the first game was made, they said the game took a mostly non-violent approach because humans were not always the apex predator, guns bad, there was yet another school shooting, and this, among else, was their way to a world without guns (lol).

Then there was a debacle with their twitter poll where the lead dev asked the players to choose between adding a female protagonist, or adding more content to the game. The overwhelming majority of players voted for more content, and the lead dev went off a retarded rant about muh diversity and people who dared to not care about this shit.

Then their sound designer decided to do a little trolling and said the devs should make a difficulty slider that would make the protagonist's skin progressively darker as the difficulty increased. The devs got butthurt and eventually fired him. This was also the reason why the Below Zero, the standalone expansion, had shit music and sounds. The new sound designer wasn't really that talented as opposed to the one they fired.

Subnautica 2 also involved in a scandal because this time both sides of the conflict are ultra giga retards. Unknown Worlds have been missing a fuckton of deadlines because the same lead dev was wasting his time creating an AI-generated movie instead of working on the game, and their Korean publisher, Krafton, tried to use this as a casus belli and sue them to wrestle all rights to Subnautica from them. However, Krafton's execs turned out to be equally stupid and USED FUCKING CHATGPT TO GET LEGAL ADVICE ON HOW TO SUE THE DEVS AND GRAB THE RIGHTS. I wish it was a joke.
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>>567327605
Does that mean imagine dragons got laid off?
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>>567327605
its over....
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>>567319045
I don't know why they were treating it like a noir detective case where we didn't really do any investigation except for breaking into Hive temples and stealing 'evidence'. The whole twist was so lame you could see it from a mile away. I think it was mission 2 or 3 of that 'challenging case of stealing the Light' where I thought 'the whole twist will be that the Traveler willingly shared Light with the Hive'.
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>>567327605
[Heartwarming News]
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>>567327605
holy shit that artstyle
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>>567328087
>why they were treating it like a noir detective case
The same reason Lightfall is "muh 80s action movie"
The writers and devs wanted to make a story with that as the aesthetic background and missed the landing by a few miles.
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>>567322675
>The "I'm a woman and I hate my father figure!" plotlines went on for years
Say thanks to Robert Brookes, he wrote the ALL seasonal stories from Hunt (Beyond Light's first season) all the way to Final Shape and Edge of Fate. One day I received a feedback email from Bungie, and when asked about my opinions, I, in turn, asked them in very polite terms to stop using the game's story as the writer's personal therapy outlet. I didn't get any more emails of that kind from them.
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>>567328101
Erm... it's [Sad News] actually
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>>567327605
>we anticipated
HOW
no really. HOW?
its like going all in on a business that sells snow in the arctic.
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>>567327270
he probably is
that dude was literally ALWAYS here to defend d2s abominable artstyle. When they introduced the vog sets, i never took them off again.
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>>567328687
People making Concord were 100% confident that they have the future hottest media property on their hands, something to rival Star Wars and Marvel at their heights. Even bothered to dish out dosh to make Secret Level animation collab.
Highguard devs were 100% sure that they total banger, and they were having blast during playtest (against each other)
Both immediately died when they were revealed to public.

They are hopeless. It actually makes me angry that this level of delusion is allowed to exist.
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>>567328807
My favorite Warlock armor is Worthy's Valkyrian season pass set. It has just the right amount of Rasputin's Russian weaboo details while still looking as an officer's combat uniform.

>>567329107
A friend of mine has a conspiracy theory that all such projects are insured against failure, so it all comes down to insurance payments and kickbacks to the right people as the project inevitably fails, and the devs are kicked out (no one really cares about regular low-level employees anyway, and big wigs will get their golden parachutes if something goes wrong for them specifically).
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>>567327738
they did ns2? i remember playing that, it was a neat idea, but poorly executed
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how do I drain my anti-freeze to put in new fluid?
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>>567330027
google it
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>>567329107
from what i saw (yes including baz) cooncord was infinitely better than marathon.
and had more mass market potential
like if you flip the devs so that firewalk released marathon and bungie released concord, concord would have launched with 200k players and had a much more stable ccu after release.
like concord was just a hero based arena shooter.
how this is taken offline in 2 weeks but marathon stays online is beyond me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzJt0SVlYE
like yeh this is boring as fuck but at least its marketable to anyone

also in the same vein if bungie just spun off crucible into a stand alone game it would be doing way better than marathon.
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>>567330128
I only have Bing and it keeps asking me if I want to do surveys for points ;_;
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This dude cannot be serious
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>>567330185
concord had zero style and was just copying guardians of the galaxy. marathon actually has a distinctive style (i hate it, but it stands out). the cniematic teaser for concord was giga cringe and marathon's was kind of interesting.

if you do not realize this you are extremely out of touch and should realize your tastes are misaligned with the broader customer base and you should not be making decisions
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>bing
You definitely play marathon
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>>567330403
don't lie
i actually tried bing search for months just to see and it can do something this easy
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>>567329879
Yup, that's their game as well. Natural Selection 1 was their first big project, it was a Half-Life 1 free mod. They established an actual studio to make a sequel, Natural Selection 2, as a standalone game in their own engine. Lore-wise Subnautica's games happen in the same universe as Natural Selection 1/2.
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>>567330185
What buried Concord was an absolutely atrocious art direction, like, every character looks repulsive and sleazy. World absolutely hated it from the moment it graced the Earth.
It wasn't salvageable in any way, art direction will always drag it back to the pits of hell.
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>>567331017
personally i don't really care if they made some other shit game, both subnauticas are really neat
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>>567329107
They're not real people, they're just corporate lapdogs putting together mandated slop of which is spearheaded by delusional losers who genuinely think they're going to make the next Halo, Call of Duty, Fortnite etc.
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>>567330613
>>567331085
>art art art
I DONT GIVE A FUCK
THIS IS ABOUT GAMEPLAY
RETARDS
holy shit
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>>567332239
selling an AAA video game is, in fact, NOT all about gameplay
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>>567332239
Art matters, fucking retard.
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>>567332239
>what if we ignore the most glaring issue with the game and invent other non-existing conspiratory issues to explain it's demise
You are just kowtowed pussy that is afraid to call out things as they are for some reason.
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>>567332239
melty!!
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>>567325217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZAMabEeCnU
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>THIS IS ABOUT GAMEPLAY
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>>567325217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvaJ7QlhH0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-07alF7BlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9E3lDJZTQ
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>>567334103
that's the second time you've posted that trap song, and you suggest a second one. godawful taste
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>>567332239
Doesn't matter how "good" your gameplay is anon, if your game looks like vomit then people won't want to play it. Though art directly impacts gameplay through how things look and feel, if you just remove all the visual effects and shit like that you'd have a crap shooter with no feedback and thats the first criticism you will get. Concord looks ugly as sin with characters no one wants to play and characters and how they look are quite important to a hero shooter. As for gameplay its just a generic hero shooter, hardly really sold itself on that front.
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>>567334202
maybe its supposed to be symbolic of how shitty and trashy destiny 2 is
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>>567332239
It had boring gameplay in a genre people were already tired of and looked ugly as fuck
happy now
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>>567334202
I don't listen to it, they're just relevant to Bungie.
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>>567334472
>Lilith
Why the fuck is this name so common for troons
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>>567334753
They're soulless
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>>567334753
It's some gay satanic rewrite of the bible from faggots that insist that before Eve, there was some troon whore named Lilith.
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>>567334753
troons are all weak souls corrupted by jewish satanic rituals.
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>>567332239
I bet you think the D2 armor is fine
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>>567334753
it's the retard fanfiction name of supposedly adam's wife who divorced him to go yass queen slaaaaaay by herself, she is also regarded as the mother of demons in the occult. two things that appeal to edgy young women
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>>567335826
>young
>women
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there was this nut bar they used to sell in the supermarket when i was younger but its discontinued, it was the best thing ever
destiny 2
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>>567336334
trannies appropriate edgy young women culture
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>>567336468
I miss cheese nips
I also miss flame shield
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>>567336468
i miss going to the fuddruckers and getting some surge then playing gauntlet at the arcade machine
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>>567341642
>thankfully
Im starting to nooootice
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>>567341642
I'm sure his friend from Sony is definitely important enough to be talking about if they're scrapping marathon
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>>567341642
Saars...
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>>567341642
shounenshitters
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>>567341642
Oh yeah? Well MY friend from Sony says it's going to shut down tomorrow and everyone at Bungie will be forced to mass seppuku on live stream to preserve Sony's honor.
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>>567341642
This sounds like exactly the thing they do before they throw in the towel. They’ll probably just give it a full year of actual content before pulling the plug due to it being somehow less financially viable than D2.
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>>567341642
My friend from Sony raped me
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>>567342212
This reminds me wasn't Sony going to implement showing how many people were playing games on ps5?
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>>567343326
Yes but only the top 8 or 10 for your country, you'll never see Marathon player numbers.
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>>567343472
Unlucky, marasissies get to cope a little while longer then
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>>567343326
only for top 10 so they can advertise it
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>>567343589
They aren’t able to cope for long when the queue times get longer and Paul has already gone on record by stating that PC is the main platform, not consoles.
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>>567341642
>a friend from Sony
>thankfully
>doesn't seem like they are throwing in the towel
Bungie only has some basic outlines for seasons up to Season 5. Based on Destiny's development schedule Season 4 and especially 5 are no-where even close to being concepted or in anyway developed. The "roadmap" Bungie offered was basically just vibes past Season 3 lmao. The only thing preventing Sony from pulling the plug right now is they don't want another live service failure in the headlines like Concord. But I guarantee there will be layoffs at Bungie to offset the cost of maintaining Marathon and that means less manpower for future seasons even if they move everyone from Destiny to Marathon. I also don't think Sony will let them move everyone from Destiny to Marathon because Destiny is still the big money maker for Bungie with Eververse so Bungie will be essentially shackled to pumping out content for Destiny to satisfy players while pushing out more Eververse garbage to make money.
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Sony should send some Yakuza guys to Bellevue to beat the shit out of Bungie employees so they actually start trying.
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>>567344639
they no longer have the ability to do it
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And so... we come to the new week rape of Marathon. What are we thinking fellow DOOMGODS, sub 10k peaks this week?
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>>567344639
The sad part is that Marathon’s closed alpha to now IS them trying. The visual overhaul is nice considering how it looked like a 360 game, but the problem is that there is no long term appeal among casual players with Tarkov’s “progress resets each season” gameplay loop. Even Tarkov fans are quick to point out that the game itself is very frustrating and anger inducing, so it doesn’t make any sense to make a mass market extraction shooter.
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>>567345996
>Even Tarkov fans are quick to point out that the game itself is very frustrating and anger inducing
what an incredibly damning notion
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sony is as cucked as bungie is
if not more.
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>>567345996
>The visual overhaul is nice considering how it looked like a 360 game, but the problem is that there is no long term appeal among casual players with Tarkov’s “progress resets each season” gameplay loop.
That wasn't even Bungie. Sony brought in a bunch of their other studios to help with the lighting and overall presentation of the game. Once again, they need a support studio to save their ass.
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>>567346578
...but... the vision...
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>>567346803
The vision of ripping of Tarkov and making it accessible for troons.
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Coming to Destiny 2 soon, the exciting new extraction shooter mode!
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>>567346578
That makes it even more humiliating for Sony, holy fuck.
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>>567347083
They already did that with Renegades
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>>567346861
But troons are the best fanbase you can have because they are peak slop enjoyers and will die on every hill for it.
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>>567347454
They attach themselves to retarded shit and shill easily but there really aren't that many of them. Maybe it seems like they're good demographic to target in Bellevue, Washington but they make up less than 1% of the population in most of the rest of the world.
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>>567347579
>"The Awoken numbers are fewer now. But our will to fight remains undiminished." —Petra Venj
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>>567347579
I should have clarified.
>The best fanbase you can have for a bad game made by people who don't want or listen to criticism.
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>>567347720
Datto should get this tattooed on his back.
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>>567347824
Korean businessmen don't like escorts with tattoos so that's a no go
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>>567348525
Even a tramp stamp?
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Bungie will keep making Marathon and let Destiny die. We all know Marathon is a total failure stillborn, but Bungie and Sony are arrogant assholes who won't let the unwashed chud masses decide what succeeds or fails. Bungie has made it very clear they hate Destiny, and Sony has the money to waste trying to make Marathon seem like a big thing. They're not going to shut it down unless it sits in the triple digit CCUs for multiple weeks.

This isn't Maratroon copium, I want that game to die. Herman Hulst is just a retard who makes bad decisions.
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>start another day of shit
>another unplayable ketchcrash
Getting REALLY FUCKING OLD.
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its been weeks since i tried to beat the derealize for rank 8 and people just leave the squad when they die 1 time, also i realized there is a ton of women who got carried by dudes into cap level but they suck at the game and grief whenever they struggle a bit
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>>567354362
>women who got carried by dudes
really funny how common this trope is in vidya
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>>567354362
Wouldn't be a problem if you gamed with the core playerbase of trans@bungie
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>>567354362
>he's not jamming t's and knitting i's
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=OhjcfH6uu18
>One of the first comments I see is 'I'm having a blast'
Lmfao
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brutal gape approaches
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>>567356096
>let bungie co-
nigger, bad game
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>Let bungie cook
I genuinely cannot believe there are shills who still stay this unironically
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>>567353857
>playing d2
>surprised when shit no work
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>>567353857
why is it unplayable?
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We know we're never getting another D2 expansion, right? Are people retarded enough to think that Shattered Cycle and The Alchemist are happening? We should still grill Bungie for it, either way.
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>>567358332
It freezes on the boss fight. No servitors spawning in to kill to lower the shield.
Spider tanks do the same, not spawning captains to get flame cannons.
>>567357535
There's teehee funny glitches then there's
>everyone has to quit
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>>567356096
Guess he thought it was safe to upload again because a sony suit said they will continue to "support" Marathon and Bungie's giving vibe promises for the future of the game. Can't believe he came back for seconds on his humiliation ritual after studying the "comeback".
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 17943
Destiny 2: 59609
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Notice how Destiny 2 players keep going up
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I don't know how much longer I can continue jamming...
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>>567359731
Destiny will live forever while Marathon will die.
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>>567359731
The raped who scurried off to marathon come crawling back to be raped in D2 when the June update is delayed indefinitely.
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Study the comeback...chuds.
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Erm......what comeback?
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The D2 comeback. Driven by STAR WARS.
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I miss hopeposters
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>>567360607
They were raped too hard. They all died of exhaustion. Every single one. Gone. There is no hope. Now and forever more there is only doom.
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>>567360142
BLOODY FUCKING CHUD
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is 400 the current soft cap?
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>>567360771
Does he not get embarrassed posting these videos
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lol the BDF don’t even show up to defend bungie in the comments of destiny reddit doomposts anymore. It’s over. completely and utterly raped.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>567360880
450 maybe
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>>567366485
Oh, I started getting "Gold" clears for my normals so I figured this was some threshold.
Ah well, the climb continues.
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>>567327738
>Subnautica 2 also involved in a scandal because this time both sides of the conflict are ultra giga retards. Unknown Worlds have been missing a fuckton of deadlines because the same lead dev was wasting his time creating an AI-generated movie instead of working on the game, and their Korean publisher, Krafton, tried to use this as a casus belli and sue them to wrestle all rights to Subnautica from them. However, Krafton's execs turned out to be equally stupid and USED FUCKING CHATGPT TO GET LEGAL ADVICE ON HOW TO SUE THE DEVS AND GRAB THE RIGHTS. I wish it was a joke.
God, I still can't believe this even though I saw the site the retard made to pitch his movie, AI bros are some of the dumbest retards in the planet
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>>567332239
Go play pong and only pong for the rest of your life then
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Pong probably has a higher playerbase than marathon lol
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i will bake in a minute if nobody else wants to
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Make it a SIVA thread. Consume. Enhance. Replicate.
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Blast status?
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>>567370852
here u go
>>567372210
>>567372210
>>567372210



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