>Marathon Youtube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/News:>Launch, Leanings, and What's Nexthttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnext>Season 2 Announcementhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/season_2_begins_june_2>Mid-Season Updatehttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_106>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>Introducing C.A.R.R.I.https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_carriPrevious:>>566867934
Lmao.
>Run a timed courseAre you fucking serious? And on Dire Marsh of all places?
>>567099952You will inject ze Simbionts, Runner.
So that's what shells look like without clothes.
>>567100168As you'll definitely spawn south of Quarantine, just cross the entire map, then cross the entire map again, then hit every single point of interest's roof (also you'll be overheating every 30s or so). It's simple! And remember, no free kits, because cardio kicks are weirdly rare to find so you definitely can't count on that working for you.
>>567100168Embrace the circus and try to make it out alive, buddy.
How do I do rook runsI literally ways get raped by UESC>but your abilityYes I know but most of the time it'll be some fucking invisible bot taking pot shots at me or I'll get fucking domed and one shot by the sniper UESC. Or like the container you hack and wait a few seconds, I have to a) kill the first UESC there and hack then pop it for the reinforcements, or b) sneak in with the ability, hack, then wait like 80 seconds for it to come back up.God forbid I walk into any indoor area, you get instagibbed. I'm not a bad player, I just don't play much and maybe haven't found the trick to it, when to sneak, when to use the ability, etc. it's weird. I love rook and getting dropped in halfway through a run.
>>567101079You have a silenced sidearm start, so just take them out. Your overall noise footprint in large scale (Trios) match is minimal and in cases that you hit an area with UESC around, it's not like other players are walking around in there either. If you need to bypass congested areas, just pop your ability and ignore the sturdier bots. Beyond that, start your runs with peeking around in Arms Lockers to grab something with a little more range to defend yourself and you're already going strong.
>>567101079you can knife all bots, even tough ones, as long as they're aloneyour ability will reset before they attack you if you knife > backaway > knife in the right cadence
>>567101079>invisible botUnless you have glaucoma or can't afford corrective glasses, you have no excuse for not being able to see UESC Ghost units. Their invisibility sucks.But generally, just be a coward. And be patient.
>>567100168This shit is for PvE, not for the bullshit that the game has devolved into.I also resent any Priority Contract that requires killing other runners unless its Arachne (or UESC in future).
>season 2 comes out>numbers surge for a couple of weeks or so before returning to where we're at now>Sony begrudgingly shuts the game down at the end of season 2 >Bungie dismantled shortly afterSearch your hearts
>>567101079>rook runsHide, pop signal mask when near UESC bots, do your thing and hide once signal mask runs out.>find secured supplies>pop signal mask>activate>hide and wait>pop signal mask>loot>hide/go somewhere else
>>567103239Actually I think you'll find if you aren't a big faggot afraid of fighting people that a quest making you run across PoIs is fun as fuck and a good way to learn the map and get into fights with people
>>567101079the first tip is to decide what you want out of your rook rundo you want money? just play it slow along the outskirts and less trafficked PoIsdo you want to loot pinwheel/be a cheeky shit and try to steal anomaly? better learn the maps well, especially tunnels and vents and emergency escapes from most areas, since the name of the game there is generally moving quickly and purposefullymany, many rooks will be your friend if you speak to them too, most rooks aren't looking to fight other rooks in general.
Seriously, Marathon devs screwed the pooch on launch and through Season 1.>market the game to an imaginary target audience>game attracts the very opposite of the audience you want>this not-really-intended audience turns the game into BR shitfest>actual intended audience leaves, numbers bleed>"its not good, it doesnt look good">have to do something otherwise seppuku/hara-kiri>the unintended audience screams bloody murder that devs try to get the intended audience backDevs... picrel.
>>567103450Which part of "i actually dont want to fight people" you dont get? Game becomes much more hardcore when you have to complete stuff, dont fight other players, and get shot at by other players. But hey, if you want to camp exfils from rooftops or some dark corner because runner might potentially have something of worth - go ahead, be ass.
>>567104201the part where you said the quest design is for PvE and not PvPit's for PvP, you just wanna play PvE, but the quest is designed perfectly for PvP.
>>567104318Yeah, for people to camp POIs and Quarantine so that whoever runs the contract gets fucked.Look anon, i get that your life is so pathetic that the only reprieve from it you get is online griefing and preying on other players, that doesnt mean you are in the right.
>>567101079My typical outpost run goes something like this>Spawn at airfield>Run around looking for keys and picking up salvage and white valuables >If there are bots, just knife the small ones and shoot the bigger ones in the head>Avoid conflict and use signal mask if I have to walk through a heavily populated area where there are too many to kill>Hit up the Armouries (2 yellow 1 green keys) >Exfil when my bag is full or I'm satisfied with what I foundDon't waste your time trying to get a 1/10 raid where you make it out with prestige or purple loot. 9/10 raids with green and blue loot is fine. I usually start my next raids with green and blue gear and find upgrades along the way.
>five billion dollars in the hole and deepening by the day
what are the best gold gun attachments? I found the repeater one, and it was kinda worthless
>>567105992Bully. Turns an already meta weapon into a mini lmg.
>>567103945>market the game to an imaginary target audience>actual intended audience leaves, numbers bleedSo is the audience actual or imaginary?
>>567103945Never forget Luke Smith's quest for the most watchable game, vibes over substance. Bungie would rather have something that comes out buzzy among streamer slobs and their codependent vicarious living audience than actually make something decent. I said this 100 times over in my survey replies for the alpha tests, the maps are way too small for how arcadey the physical player action can get and it's retarded how close some of the spawns can be on Dire. It was always bound to feel like a BR hot spot with just how you can hear somebody fart 200 yards away. Hell if you're of the overachieving lobby wiping mind, there's tons of strategies that basically encourage you to specifically not loot your zone at risk of making noise, in order to jump a team where you could be at more advantageous spot going quiet and through a different entry. Skipping looting Maintenance to go jump people at Quarantine is a massive one because the second you start running around Maintenance basically 3 other zones in the immediate area will hear you.
>>567106620>imaginary target audience>audience that engages in PvP and PvE>actual audience - PvE, engages in extraction mechanics as imagined by developers, does PvP on and off>unintended audience - BRfags, Apexfags, every single cheating scum possible, ratfag, etc - scum and villainy
The biggest thing people miss is that the people who turned on this game the fastest were those who were sold on some fantastical idea that was never going to translate to how the game actually is. They couldn't stomach that it is still an extraction game so they freak out about how the game isn't just a continuation of Destiny where they can be a mindless retard shooting patrol zone dregs scratching their ass. These mutants are the worst thing to happen to that company's games.
>>567107101It was never going to end well. People that played Destiny wouldn't even do pvp for basic shit and they sure as hell weren't going to have a change of heart in Marathon. People are just salty there is a Bungie game they might actually hate and not click with but they're too embarrassed to be lumped in with the baseless haters, so they jerk things around thing to poise it like some big existential thing. These fickle pussies should be the last people giving suggestions.
>>567106962>Skipping looting Maintenance to go jump people at Quarantine is a massive one because the second you start running around Maintenance basically 3 other zones in the immediate area will hear youYup. And the sound design doesnt help, because you can be breaking the window and everyone around in Quarantine, Algae Ponds, AI Uplink will hear you. You shot something? Everyone everywhere hears you. You opened a door or broke venitaltion grid? Yup, everyone hears you. You walk on that soft mud? You might as well weight 5 tons with the sound you make. Its retarded. Same with looting, healing, etc.
>final boss (of dire marsh) is a helicopter
>>567100168holy shit
There are too many runners per map
>>567107552I hate it, even when you'd play DMZ and alert the whole POI, there was more than enough physical room between you to not make it so apparent and obvious. I don't understand how Bungie saw ok we're gonna make hero character supermen who can shoot weapons in a straight line with insane AA that we're known for, also the key goal is basically ensuring wiping out everything to just have a bubble of safety and not have to worry about anything else. I'm not totally against it and i get you don't necessarily need to play like that but it's so advantageous that it just fucks with so much. The AI being warning bells rather than a full on adversary is annoying. I was playing Cryo with new people and it hit me when we're playing at a slower pace, the other teams basically could pinpoint what were were up to in our room so it's like, fuck. A lot of these guys were just trying to farm bots for xp which I get but the game does feel so lopsided with shit that I feel like it doesn't need to be like this. I think my only controversial thing with Cryo is it shouldn't have been so closed quarters and there's a lot of good set pieces you basically never really do much into that serves as decoration or transition spaces. So you get everybody still peaking some head glitch through a key hole or random piece of obscured junk and wait for the other team to fuck up. It's just bitch moves.
What are the extraction rates in arc raiders? Like well over 75% of the time you'll get out right?
>>567108974LOL.My personal opinion is that the whole riad thing needs to go and stay go. Make environmental hazards a thing. Make players take damage from contagions, environment, make SIMbiont constantly damage player, make lightning strikes more common, make anomaly fuck with players in Dire Marsh, make tick nests allover the place so player has to deal with swarns of ticks. There are so many ways to make it an actual survival game. Instead they make "raids" and "PvP", as if those can replace actual contnet and holistic experience of being in a genuinely hostile environment where your very body is attacked by toxins, chemicals, weather effects.
Me on the left
>>567110114Basically, Bungie (Ziegler) thought and intended for PvP to be the content. Everything you do forces PvP, even if you try to actively avoid it. If you just go about completing contracts, you will find that they dont really offer that much, even though codex entries and cutsceens are nice. Looting RNG-based valuables is kinda nice, but also doesnt last for too long. And so it ends up with PvP stretching it all. PvP is the padding. I would have completed that MIDA final contract after second attempt if it was not for PvP. Unfortunately, padding becomes a dead weight after a certain point, it becomes the thing that suffocates and kills the game. And so it is with me - if 3 days ago i cared about finishing that mission and was raging that i could not even after 20 runs, right now i dont give a shit about it, and most likely will not even try doing it because whatever impulsion was to do it is gone.TLDR: when PvP is the substitute for content, game wont live long.
Any PvP game that isn't 1v1 is a meme that isn't worth your time
>>567110272Cute, but CyAc will just erase those memories they have. Would be a neat thing if alternative quest-line was synths defecting/rebelling and re-establishing Colony.Exfil failed, your mind got stuck in the shell, you lost contact with AIs, and now you are all alone and mortal in a hostile world. Unlike an ordinary human, you have higher chances of survival, but you still need stuff to repair your body and power your cells. And then you find that you are not the only runner/shell that got fucked over like that... and so synths establish a community, living in the ruins of Colony, repairing it, studying it, inhabiting it, making it theirs. Yes, scenarios like in that pic would happen too. And eventually synths learn to reproduce bodies from corpses of automatons, and so Arena is born, where synths can inhabit custom-made bodies and fight each other for sport, practice, entertainment, replicating the same thing that got them in that pickle in the first place. Runners running shells, shells running shells of long-dead automata.Also>what if Mariln Manson x YolandiEugh runner. Runner... EUGH. ...shells make it more palatable.
>>567111373Nah, UT3's Warfare was the pinnacle of PvP, so are UT games in general. Bombing run in 2003/2004 is some top-tier fun.
>>567100537>>567100594Can you synthesize multiple SIMMbiotes to extend the time?
>>567112010there's a minecraft machinima film about this idea
New update looks kino
I don't mind if they add more PvE oriented options. What I don't want though is for the best "play" to be to loot up in PvE because its not as dangerous AND then go into regular raids with players in it. I believe that if they do add PvE, it should be rep oriented as in the reward is mostly rep based and maybe upgrade materials but not super great useable item loot. If they do add PvE, they do however need to make some way of enticing both PvE oriented players and PvP oriented players to engage in each others respective area. Like give a reason to occasionally jump into other game modes etc.
my arc raiders buddies are just gonna want to PVE whats the point it will be so boring.
I'm gonna do both modes and maybe ranked if they introduce better mmr and not make it so rapey out the gate.
>>567113117I'm not actually sure, I know you can get multiple biochains by stuffing more chitin in the bio-research machine, but I've never tried it on the synthesizer
>>567100168First try, baby.>>567093723Get fucked, nigger.
>>567116323Interesting. Is it okay to activate the Anomaly lockdown after synthesizing everything?
>>567115231It won't survive as a PVE game, the UESC doesn't hold a candle to the enemies you get in Arc or Helldivers. Yeah fights can be difficult but not actually interesting, you just shoot them in the face and move on. I expect the game to get a player count bump but they'll quickly move on. And these are the players Bungie are going to dedicate the entirety of the next year of development towards
Huh, I guess the shell are genuinely alive.
>>567115302I don't think ranked in this kind of game makes any sense at all. I had interest in it because I wanted the skins a bit but realistically, how they want rank to be played and how players actually play it is complete aids.
>kill a compiler team>wipe every single team on the map>go to elevator>oh we need anti virus>my crew fill couldn't do the boss because we didn't have anti virusFeelsbadman
>>567116915they would need dozens of new enemies to make it interesting at all
>>567118513Well it took Destiny 2 10 years to get a sort of new enemy faction, mostly just reskinned psions. So we could get a decent amount of PVE enemies within the next 50 years, almost on par with what Destiny 1 had.
>>567117783Very true honestly, I pretty much ignored it for the whole season after my first few games. It was ass.
>cryo fill>fast lvl 2>go and push another team>they recon ult so we back off>run into another team>kill two of them but they down one of us>the team from before pinches us but they're little bitches and don't push because le superior high ground anakin>kill the remaining guy on the ground team.>loot them for bubble grenade>my teammate that found it lobs it past the other teammate's body>i get the rez off anyways but the other guy goes down>"fuck it" and leaves>now pinched between UESC and the recon team>other teammate gets finished>go rat around control for a bit>try and pickup as many tags i can>go back to teammate but still hear fighting>teammate dcs>15mins left and I decide to stick it out>run around control again causing noise so everyone collapses while i still have lvl 2 to rat around the northern pois>go back to the corpses and get my loot fill>hear someone running but they're too busy trying to exfil to notice me>get lvl 3 from killing bots during the final 1:30>pop vandal ult and exfil with 14s remaining.
>>567119164
>>567116537i mean, it doesn't say you can't. but everyone knows anomaly lock down is a quest so they will steer clear of it usually. or some faggots will try and fuck with you but everybody else probably has better things to do.
What are your guesses for sentinels abilities? I am thinking sentry gun for sure of some sort but I don't know what else he would have or passives.
>>567120609Something from Destiny 2
>>567111050And thats why this game flopped. The core is bad bungie pvp
>>567114603>Like give a reason to occasionally jump into other game modesArachne leveling for PvP, because thats all they are good for.All other factions for PvE - loot shit, get info/intel, get colony back and operational.You want that challenge where you are VIP with all factions? Gotta engage in all of it - PvP and PvE.Also, Traxus already forces you to PvP in Unsanctioned Hostilities 3/5, and Sekiguchi requires you to PvP in Co-Evolutuon 2/5. You have enough of everything for everything.
>All feedback from the alphas and betas were to add PVE before shipping the game>Ship the game anyway>It flops>Adds half-assed PVE in a panic 2 months after releaseWhy don't they ever listen to feedback from people that aren't cock-sucking streamers?
>>567121273They thought they could get away without it. They couldn't.
>have a successful run with a team>not sure if they want to keep running with me after the match ends>leave in 10 secs after staring at the screenAnyone else #awkward?
Good thing theyre making pve mode after everyone left and the arg lore shit is over so no one will know what the fuck is happening
>>567121590I usually say that I'm good if I leave. Which is every time after an intense run. The part in that blog post about letting the player unwind or something like that resonated with me.
>>567121601What arg lore shit? Bingus? Has about as much impact and is just about as relevant as a fart in a wind.
What do you think triggers some people about PvP? I have never felt "Scared" of PvP but the way some people talk about these kinds of games make me genuinely think some people are fearful of PvP oriented games. Hence the whole hugbox arc raiders thing. Are some people just not "Thermodynamic"?
Some say those who have been raped can never be unraped.Will Marathon be the exception that confirms the rule?
I wonder how long that Destroyer looked out for me. Makes me miss Deadlock a bit, where you could watch a replay of the match from anyone's perspective.
>>567122468>whole hugbox arc raiders thingthat shit was weird, people would take getting killed so personal, they thought you were evil irl
>>567122468I'm perfectly fine with PvP. But I also can cooperate. Only in solo, though.
>buy game to see what the fuss about>menu design is confusing as shit >inventory is confusing as shit>tutorial is shit and you die without even fully understanding your first shell skilset>no training area to try stuff and learn.>Try to go around the first map and feel the game in the first level. >level is small as shit compared to ARC maps. Its basically a TDM disguised as an extraction shooter.No wonder Im reading that the best strat is to be strong, whipe everyone in the map and then extract. This game sucks.I already asked for a refund.No fuck this game, too much shit to learn, too confusing, got a refund. Bye.
>>567122689>doesnt get shot at after pinging friendlyI hate you, because in my case i would get wasted in a splitsec.
>>567123067add one more to the "raped to death" pilenobody cares, weakling
>>567123210It took me half an hour to complete the tutorial and read some info on how to play in game. I played another half hour after that. Two succesfull extraction with rook. I didnt got raped and I'm simply getting my money back since I dont want to sink any more time to learn how to play this weird game.You are the one coping since you cant get a refung now.
>>567122468PvP doesn't trigger me necessarily, I used to be a huge faggot about it but I realized it has its place in online games like MMOs. I just don't want to by 100% locked in all the time every time. I wouldn't mind if some maps were hotter than others for example.
>>567122468PvP is forced upon you. Thats about it. You have no say whether you want to engage in it or not. Game has identity crisis. Many systems clearly function for PvE, and very few though very intensely for PvP.Separate queue for PvE, separate one for PvP. That way everyone is happy. Although considering the concern people have for PvP being unbalanced by PvE grind/upgrades, PvP should be sponsored-kits only, and sponsored kits should be Green for Perimeter, Blue for Dire Marsh and Outpost, Purple for Cryo, and Gold for ranked. Ranked is obviously a Deathmatch/TDM - no UESC on map or other such hazards (ticks, AIDS plants, etc).
>>567123067>>567123625Based refund chad
>>567122468For a lot of people they hate confrontation and then the feeling of losing confrontations even more. Because they are pussies. They can complain about being cheated by the computer and feel ok because its not another person so they need the pve
>>567122468They hate losing to other people but not bots
>Bungie’s had the same two game designers since halo 3/reach No wonder their PC game has so much aim assist
>>567124986Can’t listen to a podcast and watch porn on the second monitor when you have to listen for footsteps
>have a great run with a team>run it back with them>absolutely awful run>hit that leave crew button in 0.5 seconds after the match end
>>567121273They've been conditioned to always underdeliver and so they did.
>>567104201LOL. You're a complete fucking idiot for buying this game in the first place. This is like those trannies who bought porn vns and then started screaming because they had naked girls in them.
>>567099761why should i play this instead of Pragmata?
>>567127546Uhhh....Season 5 might be good.
>>567127546Pragmata is over in 10 hours.
>>567127546Not an 'instead of' comparison. Completely different genres and experiences.
>>567128285Yeah but you'll still be able to play it a year from now
>>567127546You can cause mental illness in other human beings
>>567128461you might get struck by lightning tomorrow, better kys now.
>>567129110How can I be struck by lightning if I don't go outside?
>The friend I made from Marathon refuses to play Marathon ever again and went to Tarkov
>>567130420Congratulate them on their de-transition.
>>567130420Is Tarkov good now
>>567131734It's definitely better than Marathon is
>>567131820But not always
>>567131868No, it always is better than Marathon.
>Arena Breakout is adding a PVE serverYour turn Bungie
LMAO
>>567131938I don't like slavslop
>>567132714You're the minority.
>>567131820Tarkov is way better if you play soloMarathon is way more enjoyable than Tarkov if you play with others.
>>567132956Wrong, that's why Tarkov is one of the most popular games on the planet and Marathon is dead.
>>567133070Then why did /eftg/ die years ago?
>>567133231Nobody uses 4chan anymore.
>>567133372nice cope lol
>kill two separate gold squads in cryo with my RANDOM fill>exfil with compiler trace and multiple gold weaponsOne of them was doing compiler too LMAO
>>567133986nice. i got the jump on some gold compiler team last night as well.
>>567133552I'm not wrong
>>567129237guess you'll still be a faggot forever.
>>567122468Ego is a massive thing with gamers in general. Shame and defeat is more painful to the average gamer than pulling out teeth, so a game that's focused heavily around the idea of getting your shit kicked in but getting back up really messes with most people, since they hate the actual idea and process of losing, even if there's very few instances in this game where it truly matters. People feign excuses like they don't want to have to tryhard or sweat just to do some contracts, but the real truth is most people "afraid" of the PvP more so recognise that they're weaker PvP players and are pre-emptively saving themselves the embarrassment/shame that could come from dying to someone else.Basically people don't like losing. Marathon is a game designed to ensure you experience loss in some capacity. By it's very nature it upsets the average gamer.
>>567135557Loss is alrightIt's that often other players don't really have anything that gud and it's just an obstacle in the way of your objective rather than a true win
>He has more viewership than Marathon has players across all platforms while playing some shit indie game from 2012Why did he betray Bungie?
>game director and design director for concord are credited with design for every other destiny 2 dlc>probably regularly speak with the people on marathonthis explains a lot
>>567136705Concord started as a Bungie game, that's why so many Firewalk devs worked at Bungie.
Bungie should have thrown the book at that faggot NAPainter, let him off too easy. So many of these Destiny cucks think they're still playing Destiny, and it's so obvious that so many of them are exploiters sweating bullets because they should have been banned, too.
>>567137676But he's a streamer, he's allowed to cheat because...well, he just is. Okay?
>>567127546If you have to ask, you fucking shouldn't. The only peopel who should even consider this game have a tight team of 3+
>>567105649just stop being a babyno one camps in trios
>>567132687>Oh no no no no not like this
>>567121273>Why don't they ever listen to feedback from people that aren't cock-sucking streamers?see, there a misconception that bungie is a game development studioreally they're more like an analytics firm, and they're trying to figure out how to piss off literally everyone, and how much they can antagonize the playerbase before they uninstall
>>567121273I really really like this image>>567139043XBros we are CARRYING this game!
>>567139043>Sony rushes out this update so they can point directly at it during their meeting with Bungie higher ups on why their company is being shut down.Based Sony.
>>567139043
Hardcore PVP bros, our response?
>>567140415Go back
>>567099761I was gonna use the same pic well played baker sir
>>567142567Faggot
The Shadow walks alone
>>567123625>filtered by tutoriallol
>ante 5k for cryro>wait 5-10 minutes for matchmaking>immediately get rushed down by another team and die instantlythat's just how it goes, i suppose
>>567154050>wait 5-10 minutes for darsh solos>sit in a closet waiting for lockdown to spawn>lockdown doesn't spawn>exfil without having done anything for 20+ mins>repeatit's all so tiring
Fun fact:I would pay 100k credits in game for it to let me play Outpost alone
dead game dead genny
Got raped by a destroyer yesterday. He hit me with a rocket or something that made me unable to sprint (i think? maybe he overheated me) and then lasered me through my smoke somehow. Can the Destroyer overheat you or hinder your ability to sprint in some way?
>>567160696Destroyer's ult rockets do the immobilize effect, same as the proximity drones, grenadier commanders, and tox warden can do. If he had a thermal sight he can see through the smoke, unless you have a signal jammer going.
>>567160696are you sure it wasn't a recon with the drone?
>>567161003nvm
>>567160980Ok, yeah that makes sense. I've been on a good run lately with my pvp encounters but this guy ran through me like I was some white shield uesc bot. Felt dirty afterwards. >>567161003Yeah, It was a Destroyer.
>>567161201that’s what I thought.
>>567121273better than the others.
>>567140415what is this nonsense... 5 teams and they are not shooting each other?>gold reinforced shieldWhat.
>>567164235That's one of the traits gold shields can have, two reinforced bars instead of 4. It might be the best of them but invisible on shield break is really good too.
>>567164851I am still surprised they have not murdered each other. What, did a streamer manage tyo gather his minions in one lobby?
>>567165102there are a lot of people who just want to do compiler before the season ends
>>567165226I guess. Would only such "goodwill" extend to the rest of the game.
>>567106461actually insane that most golds are garbage but the meta guns also have the most useful golds
>>567160696Destroyer can immobilize with his prime rockets, but in addition to that his prime basically gives him a targeting system that highlights targets through smoke while he aims down sight (lots of people don't seem to know this still which surprises me since it's literally one of his shadow index challenges). It makes him a very strong solo brawler that combined with his mobility lets you pull off lots of cheeky strats.
Think i used the retaliator the most this season
Is it just me or are good shotgun chips impossible to find? I can't fucking remember the last time I found sucker punch or stack overflow out and about. It's always rocket start or some other useless shit.
>>567168660Wow, I had no idea. I only play solo assassin. Maybe I'll try Destroyer next season, seems fun. Can you Titan skate like in Destiny?
>>567169543Its RNG.
>>567169543Cloudborn (if you are sass).
>>567169543you can buy a modded m77 from traxus, it has stack overflow. Sucker punch is buns
Does anyone know if subroutines reset when s2 hits? Bungo says codex entries stay but i doubt they would
Apparently Bingus is still around.
>>567170679sucker punch WSTR is good
>>567103945>the unintended audience screams bloody murder that devs try to get the intended audience backAre you implying that the "intended audience" is pve andies? I thought I understood what you're talking about but the last line confuses me
>>567133231Because you can't queue with randoms in Tarkov(well you can, but nobody wants to), this leads people to form playgroups so almost everyone who plays has a discord server to shoot the shit on.
>>567172545>pve andies>andiesWho?People who they wanted were the ones who play PvE most of the time, engage in PvP but prioritise looting, bots, and exfiltrating.Instead, because of mistakes made during marketing, they got people in who obsess with ratting, death-squading, cheating, and engaing in otherwise very unsportsmanlike behaviours, which drove almost anyone even remotely interested in the game away, because who wants to deal with a fuck that camps exil, and worse than that, cheats AND camps 3 exfils (because devs dont know how to spread those to prevent such bullshit).
Just spoiled the game for some russian fuck.I threw red card over the edge, and when the bastard was shooting me with BR, i took my time before jumping over.Russians... they should not be playing this game in the first place.
>>567132687They always have to frame it as mental illness and obsession when everyone is just havin' a good ol' bit of fun schadenfreude at dogshit companies that are either way past their prime or never had a chance of making it in the industry, meanwhile they're the ones who shill wokeshit for free despite hardly ever buying any of these products they're so seemingly passionate about. Classic projection. Anyways I'm glad we have Sony charts now so we can rub it in their faces on another platform. Eat shit. The flops will continue until layoffs increase.
After like 40 infils on Outpost, the sound of cloud-seeding sirens gave me PTSD.
>>567173597your loot stays where you jumped from chud
>exfil cryo with rando fills>one of them says he has a vault 6 key he wouldn't mind using>literally just need the vault 6 subroutine so this is perfect>get into a fight>manage to wipe the other team mostly by myself>get into another fight>dude who brought the key runs out INTO THE OPEN 1v3 with a wstr trying to chase after someone 50m away>other dude runs out because ??? and dies without fanfare>manage to take out 2 but can't down the last guy>basically lose my chance to get vault 6 subroutine for the season because the guy with a compiler skin just tarded outgenuinely what goes through some of these player's heads man
>>567176854>genuinely what goes through some of these player's heads man"rape rape rape rape rape"
>>567176672LOL means not only he did not get the card, he did not any healing items (because i used them while draging time), and an empty Punch. Red card went bye-bye, and it stays bye-bye, unless he jumps down there to get it.
>>567168660the problem with his ult is that it has a pretty long windup and is only like 20 secondd
>>567177495ez thief drone victory
>>567180397Nah that's plenty, most of the time fights are over/decided in seconds. Kind of keeps the ult in check too, when you burst someone, by the time your rockets launch your opponent is as good as dead
>>567180902He was an assassin, so no.Thing is though, can the drone fly out of bounds and snag those cards, or any items that fall out?
>>567181624probablyanyways while you're stroking yourself off there are 4 red cards guaranteed on the map and more of them can spawn as loot so you didn't really do much
>>567181728Maybe, but let him do the legwork to find the rest of them, assuming noone already grabbed them.
>>567181781sure thing autistkunwhatever inflates your sense of self worth in getting raped I guess
>>567181921The way you are desperately trying to diminish me is interesting. Tell me anon, is your life so hollow that you need to drag down anyone who makes even a tiny bit of some accomplishment?
>>567182092you mean like you're doing to the assassin who killed you?
>>567182237You are genuinely retarded.
>>567183074>t. the bitter rapedsorry you had to confront your hypocrisy
>>567183315You are indeed retarded. If you think you are trolling or spoiling, think again. And look up the definition of hypocrisy.
>>567183652>no see my accomplishment of throwing a key card off a roof isn't the same as someone killing and raping me brutally as an accomplishment
>>567181624Yes, thieves can. Same as with most of the retards trying to ship their bags or throw items out of bounds on Dire Marsh. Just fucking die like a man and stop being a little salty bitch.
>>567184142>anon mad on behalf of some subhumanWew laddie.Also, it was on Outpost. Good luck with retrieving that.Also, wtf, this shit is broken.
>>567185270>Calls someone subhuman while acting like a subhuman.Pot calling kettle black.
>>567185512Astounding logic.>guy shoots me after i retrieved red key>hide behind cover>i have no way to retreat>basically dead>throw red card away as a fuck youAnd some guy on some basketweaving forum calls me bad because i denied loot in a guaranteed death scenario.Hey, maybe the reason you are so butthurt is because you are that guy? Hm... suspicious... LOL.
>>567185770Simply said its BM and you should play less like a little bitch. If it drains your ego so much to bitch and moan about someone capping your bussy, you've already lost a greater deal than tossing away a fucking keycard of all things. You could have just stayed silent about your public humiliation, but instead you decided to make a nice show about it on /mg/ of all places.
>>567186539Tell me, were you born stupid, or did you work really hard to become so?
What are some good rat spots and/or sniper spots? I'm doing some low cortisol camping later tonight
>>567185770>reee someone killed me because I ran out in the open and announced to the entire lobby I was taking this keycard>how could I get raped??? it wasn't fair I wasn't ready to be raped yet!many such cases. either you rape or you get raped. I see you are the raped.
>>567188228>playing Marathon>not cortisolmaxxing
>>567188228Tox clear building west of Greenhouse, it overlooks an exfil and you can hide indoors until someone activates it. You've also got views of Algae and Intersection. I never see anyone go there other than for the guarded exfil and a med cabinet that spawns on the upper floor.
>>567189030I only play solo assassin. It's chill.>>567189175Based. Thanks.
>>567189175The tox clear buildings in Bio-Research have insanely sneaky vents at the top of them most people overlook too.
Anyone else having server issues? I'm frequently getting disconnected but all other internet connections are fine.
>log in>do a couple rook runs>no players>lootmaxx on both runs>15 mins left>no action anywhere>exfil>everyone else has already left both times>decide to run trios>spawn in>run to cover>teammates aggro bots>immediately one shot by sniper>second trio run>deaf nigger camping door where enemy trio are>door opens>instantly downed>they all advance>other nigger freezes>only me left>I die cos deaf nigger and freeze niggeryep, uninstalling againwhat a shit game
>>567191341>He's already queued up for the next run
>>567191603nope, 10 mins to go until warframe daily reset. gonna get my sortie done early then grind some relics because warframe actually has incentives to play other than soothing a bruised ego
>>567191724Tried Warframe years ago, didn't click with me. Didn't like how the game feels. Cool visuals though.
>>567191341Just play solo, retard
>Hop on Perimeter to do some light Traxus contracts (Wire salvage) >Spawn near Hauler on the Overflow side, decide to just pivot through the small crack towards the sewer routes.>Footsteps likely heading into the Data Wall.>See an Assassin, decide to shoot and ask questions later.>'Come on dude, i'm just trying to do a contract ... ACK.'>Humored the thought of actually just getting him up and let him go about his business, but the one finishing him wasn't me, it was a third party shooting from the sewer entrance.>Head into cover pop a smoke and start thinking whether i should loot the guy, decide the risk isn't worth it as it's a Recon with high ground and start hoofing to circle around through the columns.>By some miracle no one is around.>Another Assassin near the entry on South Relay, long distance gunfight as all i brought was a decent shield, some heavy ammo and a well kitted Hardline.>Make it relatively unscathed.>Another Assassin in the crack between the wall and Station, it's a bloodbath once more.>The first exfils aren't even active yet, oh sweet mercy...>Third Assassin arrives as i've finished looting.>Reach Station and find some wire salvage, shove em' into the DCON and finish up, first exfils have been online for around a minute or two.>A minute later the same Recon that was around during the early round is heading towards station.>Get a good vantage and drop him from like 90m.>Get shot at from another direction, from the DCON side.>Another Assassin.>It's been like five minutes and the lobby is most certainly dead.>ExfilThis game is like taking in live war crimes sometimes, holy shit.
>>567191891visually its dated as fuck but its fun to grind imo, you've always got stuff to work towards and can plan ahead and don't have to deal with retards>>567192278cbathe amount of snipers in trios is annoying, it'll be even worse solo lmaoI feel like people are actively exfiltrating earlier to avoid them as well so you come across players less often now
>>567193232>visually its dated as fuck but its fun to grind imo,I meant art direction, not graphics. Latter are pretty dated, but I can't think of a game that looks like it.
>>567193058>This game is like taking in live war crimes sometimes, holy shit.That is when the game is the most fun.
>>567190887It's end of service, sorry.
>>567194589Finally, out of the military.
>>567193232>the amount of snipers in trios is annoying, it'll be even worse solo lmaoI never encounter snipers in solo. It's mostly assniggers with shotguns
>>567195454I often bring one for Dire Marsh and Perimeter due to there being a lot of high ground and good sight lines. I still think Snipers are much, much more versatile in teams due to guy on ultimate having flanking support, so i mostly bring a DMR for the maps where i want tons of range, but also have to duel someone.
Finally fucking did. Finlayy did the last MIDA priority contract. God i love Assassin shell. My stabhappy n'wah. Mah nigga. CyAc and NuCal dont pay you enough. Sucky Gucci doesnt suck you off enough.
>>567196042>only level 20 with Arachne
>>567196042My absolute most favourite thing about playing Thief is popping visor as an assassin is popping his invis and just gunning them down as they try to rush me with a knife.
ok I lied I'm still playing lmao
>>567196942Because i dont care for Arachne.
>>567196042Did you enjoy it? It was pretty solidly the coolest contract in the game which seems to be the general consensus. The only one that truly interacts with the whole lobby. Big kino even if it isn't actually something insanely impressive mechanically, it's just cool and well done.
>>567197389>The amount of time i've heard Assassins think Thieves are cheating due to them not realizing that Xray vision highlights players in smoke.Maybe it is just best to put most people into their Fisher Price playpen with bots/aliens so they won't do something they'll regret IRL.
>>567197520It is a very straight-forward contract. Unfortunately, very annoying to do considering other players are gunning down Pinwheel for loot. I am not much for PvP, although i have my moments. So sneak, wait, and then bumrush objectives and finally get into Command Wing, and before starting the broadcast, eliminate as many recruits as possible. Thank God for Ghost Protocol and smoke grenades. I killed off everything in that room with a knife while being in smoke. And room did not get crowded because all enemies, aside from recruits, were clustered around red wall barrier, so i had enough room to clear recruits out as they kept coming.I made around 20-30 attempts at that mission, solo. Finally Sekiguchi were selling Ghost Protocol implants and i hoarded two stacks of smoke nades. Well, that did the trick, just as i planned, instead of bumrushing everything at the start of the match. Just sit tight, let people pop Pinwheel open and loot it, and THEN go in after they fuck off. If by 10 minutes remaining noone opened Pinwheel - just exfil.
also since when the fuck do bots have snipers? kek
>>567197389Thief is kinda fun. Did a test run with her. Not my style, but she is alright. Drone being the best shit ever though.
>>567198564Sniper bots have been a thing since day one, they just don't spawn as frequently as the foot troopers.
>>567198471Gonna be honest it's a lot easier and funner in a trio. You gun down the bots so much faster so it feels much more hectic while Gantry's ranting. Nevermind how much easier it is to just clear all major player threats in trios and all that. Solo's brutal for Outpost, the level of camping and jumping is insane.
>>567198564>what are UESC ScoutsThey were there day 1.
>>567198564UESC scouts. Been in the game since release, but they're mostly a staple in Dire Marsh and they spawn rarely on the catwalk/high ground on Station and Overflow. There's also a commander version.
>>567198564they've always been the rarest of the lineup but they always existed.
>>567198764>>567198818>>567198880>>567198921I've seen multiple on every run in perimeter today, usually at control I think it is. big orange building. especially when you trigger an event. just regular blue bots with sniper rifles. literally never seen them before and I've played almost 100 hours. they must have increased their frequency or something. might even be that what killed me in that first trio run kek
>>567198764Which is a shame, because maps should be swarming with them. Same with Ghosts.
anyway, am off to sleepmight pop in tomorrowta ra x
>>567199207>Same with Ghosts.I fucking hate ghosts holy shit.Wouldn't mind more snipers though cause they drop good gear.
>>567199117That is Station. Yeah, there are two of them there from time to time, and they can drop Longshot too. Sometimes, secured supplies can spawn Scout Commander - that bastard can drop you down in one shot easy.
>>567199117Station has them spawn on the tarp near the entrance and on top of the catwalk near the upper entrance in to Station. They also sometimes appear on the catwalks in North Relay and on the roof of Overflow. It's just one of those things that happen with the randomization of certain map elements in the game. Sometimes places with UESC patrols (from the start) gets swapped around, so there are plenty of different map states that occur. Like in Dire Marsh the Bio area can be swarmed with lasers and ghosts from the beginning with a ton of arms lockers in them, along with stuff like the entirety of Quarantine being mined and a Ghost/Recon commander hanging around on the top floor. There's tons of little things that change from match to match and it can take quite a while to see certain map states.
>>567199378Issue with Ghosts is that they are good, but too obvious - shitty invis. Issue with Scouts is that they need to AIM at you, then you get damage, and that aiming is so fucking slow. All they need is to increase their numbers, put them on rooftops and elevations, increase range of detection and speed up that laser aim animation so that if you are spotted - you are dead. That would atleast make it much more difficult for people to camp elevations with snipers.
>>567199652I just want them to make Black Ops units with significantly tougher and quieter versions of the higher ranked enemy infantry (Assault/Ghosts/Recon). Ones that hunt players pretty relentlessly and turn a PoI into a bloodbath of fighting extremely tough UESC. One way to do that is give them guns that seriously hurt, make them much more accurate and have them also be mostly silent when they move around and spawn. Would also make for a lot of confusion too, you'll never know whether it's an enemy team or whether you're getting your shit pushed in by an elite unit.
>>567200361How about allowing those bots to use runner powers? Missile bombardment (not a grenade salvo), jumpjets and power slides, thermal vision, blast cannons, etc? And make them sneakier - some of them just stand in the corner, no lights, no glints, just a piece of furniture-like, you dont even know they are there until they melee you to death.
>>567173597Red cards aren't that big of a deal since you can get them from commanders. If you really wanna be a cunt - gather yellows and greens and throw them out, those drop way less frequently.
>>567203893I do that too.
Bungie is still really traumatized by how dominant handcannons were in Destiny, so they made the Magnum extra-shit.
>>567203361No point, because they're not supposed to be something that lasts long, rather an escalation on the difficulty level of the PoI. Giving them "player powers" wouldn't make them any more interesting to fight either as Ghosts are already Assassins by default, most of the heavy assaults already zoom around with thrusters and use Destroyer shields, while the only thing i could think of giving them would be an autonomous med drone that maybe restores shields, along with some increased mobility options like extra high jump or jetpacks for mid-air movement. There's no need to make them camp either. Just have them spawn into a PoI instead of a normal reinforcement and maybe give them silenced guns. That would already make them serve a purpose that doesn't make them obtuse to fight, but would still definitely make any PoI much more dangerous for an added duration.
I hope we have two factions of NPCs that will fight each other on some maps. That would be really interesting especially for solos.
>>567207364I'd love for there to be some source of gunfire noise that doesn't come from players. I think it would alleviate the issue with third parties a bit.
>i'm just trying to do a contract bro :( pvp is immoral and you should feel bad. i wasnt gonna attack you.i like the sounds the loot pinatas make
>>567208359Yeah, exactly. In all modes it should have gunfire just like some player weapons and be an uncertainty if anyone's there. Makes it tempting cover to exploit to loot a place if you're sneaky and just adds a whole other layer.If they can actually make the NPCs meaningfully difficult enough for a 3 man team to deal with to the point of wanting 6 mans to do map events that'd also be a pretty cool thing. Stuff like having to split up and cover multiple PoIs at the same time on a map. These would make for interesting dynamics on even the same maps we have for what I feel like is minimal work, and easy to incorporate on any map they have really. Differing levels of events, different ecosystems to corral players a bit more.
>>567208359It would be nice for players to not really always be able to distinguish between UESC gunfire and runner gunfire. Noise coming from whatever the other faction is should be unique and easily recognizable, so you atleast know what you're getting into in cases where there is a fight between factions occuring.
>cryo is just three stacks with misriahs and backpacks filled with frag grenades and bubblesBwos...
>>567108974>Senator son blaring as it gets closer to your poi
>>567210795the song is called "it ain't me" retard
>>567123067>>inventory is confusing as shitYou just drag and drop items, 5head.
>>567210940Guess I'm fortunate to be surrounded by kind sons to correct me
>>567209883Why don't you just bring in your mizzies and nades
>>567211859Cause when I do, my random fill dies instantly to a 3 stack and I get massacred
>avatarfag schizo had another melty and is now shitting up /arg/wtf did you guys do to him lmao
>8 misriahs in my vault Time to lose some with randoms, weeee
>finally found a uniqueVaulted until the 1st of June
>>567216231I've never even found it once. 150 hours in, I'm still using the basic bitch weapons. I like them and they work, but I wish you could buy more weapons.
>>567218327Best way is to go to cryo and the strongboxes on pinwheel, a little hard to find but not impossibly so
>>567219479You can get them in the armories as well, but they must be super rare. The only one I've ever found was in the Processing armory.
How do you counter snipers?
>>567220489Either be a better sniper, or get into cqc range with them
>>567220489>Solos: Pray that you're close enough to cover.>Trios: Set up a flank
3rd instawipe in a row today. Not having good luck. Also, I'm never using a sniper rifle again, I can't predict enemy movement. Make it 4, I lost again in under 2 minutes while this clip was being rendered.
had a couple of fun interactions on prox chat today. Heard a assassin sneak up on me while I was doing return on investment 5/5 (traxus quest line). I called him out for it and he answered, saying that he wouldn't try to rat me, he was just "checking what was going on. When the red walls dissapeared he stood outside the area, just teabagging and jumping around. All of a sudden, another assassin snipes him in the head from a building not far away. We both pop invis and push the sniper. My friend gets downed but I manage to kill him. I then offer a self res to my firend. After we're both healed up we proceed to loot the sniper assassin we killed (found a purple sniper but not much else). He then followed me to exfil to help me extract so I could finish my quest. Apparently he was from Ukraine. Nice guy.
>>567176854be less of a shitter next time and you'll have your own cards and not have to depend on getting carried and card donations.
which of these is good
>>567190887Well, I'd call having to wait several mins and then connecting to a sever half a world away an issue, which is probably related.>>567191341Social skill issue, you loser.
Got my first unique. AK sings like a castrati.
>>567224650dude ur grenade throws are retarded. just stop carrying them if you're going to waste them like that you'll have more space for other stuff
>>567227173Can't learn how to use them if I don't use them.
>>567227247ok i'll try to help you then. they were on the catwalk and you threw them under the catwalk. that isn't a good place to use them unless you were very close to the catwalk to actually get them into the windows and doors.
>>567226057Rodeo Mag is top tier, Kingmaker is useless, the CE Tactical mod is useless, I'm not sure about the Overrun mod, I couldn't get any real use out of the burst fire mode, but it gives really good stats and makes the Overrun competitive enough (have used it and a gold WSTR successfully for the last 3 Cryo runs I've done). I haven't used the impact gold mod so unsure, and I don't recognize what the last one is.
I used to be able even very recently to go into Outpost in a green kit, or a budget blue, and have a decent chance of extracting after looting Pinwheel. Today I did, judging by armory item availability depletion, about 20 runs with not a single extract. It's not like I'm playing at a worse level than my usual mediocre performances. What the fuck is happening.
>>567224650This is the kind of fight I've lost quite a few times. The correct answer was as soon as you realized the enemy team was there - fuckin leave. They have high ground, a fuck ton of cover that's so effective they can flank you without you seeing them, the only potential paths to victory there are absurd luck (including the other team being awful), an assassin ult to let you reach the catwalks and undo the massive disadvantage you started the fight with, or a risky two people stay there and fight while the third backtracks to the ladder up from the tunnels to flank.But really, this was just a bad situation - sprinting back to AI Uplink and going through the building to either get on the roof or meet them there if they're aggressive would be the safest play.
>>567227081Oh, so there IS a unique Overrun. How is it? Where did you get, on Perimeter?
>>567227247Even then, trying to take the fight on the lower ground and throwing grenades up is much harder than throwing them from an elevated position. The opposing team also played their position pretty well, splitting up just enough so they could set up multiple flanks and continue to pressure the lower ground. In a fucked up situation like that, i might have just gone back underground and attempt to reset the fight from a longer range, especially with a sniper.
>>567227664thank uuu, the last one is for charge rifle
>>567227894*clop-clop-clop* goes xenomorph.
>>567228860Oh, extremely useless. I don't even pick up the unique channel rifle when doing Vault 02 anymore. Far as I know the only thing the Channel Rifle is good for is bullying a single person from the other side of Dire Marsh.
>>567228705Yes, from the alarm box. I like it. Basically no recoil.
>fight a gold shield on cryo>my 3rd goes down instantly>me and the other guy manage to down 2>get killed by third sadly>then in the end screen I see the gold squad getting destroyed by a 3rd partyfucking kek
Unfortunately for me, mostly, the V99 is just not a particularly good gun.
>signal mask my way into the exfil>see a rook off in the distance sprinting my way for its life>should i? i don't know.. maybe just..>i plink it once with the hardline i have on me>it runs behind a wall and into a group of bots>i get a downed runner pop-up in the feed as the exfil timer expires and i'm gonegame's got me giggling, it's too good
>kill another compiler squad on cryo>my random teammate knows how to do the boss>leads us to labs>kill the gold boss and get into the boss room>actually get to see the boss!!!>didn't manage to kill it because we had few time left so we just exfilledSad we didn't get to kill it but hot damn I actually got to see the super rare boss
>>567220489really one of the only complaints i have with this game rn. playing against snipers is obnoxious and unfun
>>567228170>>567224650yup and the key factor really is that if one of your teammates has no concept of tactical retreat your pretty much just fucked
>>567235862did you kill the other compiler team in cargo?
I dont like PvP. Did not stop me from bruteforcing through Unsanctioned Hostilities, but i dont like it.Issue is that if kits are uneven - purple vs green, gold vs blue, PvP goes to shit. The most fun i had was naked with knife, fighting another naked assassin with a knife. Now THAT was good. That was a good dance. Fighting purple'd thief is not fun when you are on green kit.
>>567236659No, it was in the left side of panopticon, on the top path to revival
>>567235862pretty cool i haven't even done a vault
>Cryo fill>a team jumps out and surprises us>teammate trades with one>we clean up with some grenades>my wstr comes in clutch for once>go down but self revive while the enemy wastes time with a finisher>knife him and heal>another one self revives and i needle him down with the copperhead. >"where's the last guy?">count three bodies>pick up a vault 1 key and complete it>get lvl 4 and head up to the armory>can hear people in it>get the jump on them>mizzies, mizzies every where>get lvl 5 and grab compiler trace>exfil with plenty of time to spare>we were last team standing
>>567191891Fast movement does tend to confuse halobabbs, I get it.
>>567241040On my servers there's much less teams now, like only 2-4 in cryo so it's much easier to do vaults and stuff
>>567241762i think that's just a rumour
>>567242558Nah, I had multiple lobbies where there's only my team and another team on the map
>cryo fill>notice my teammates keep stopping to loot stuff in the first 2 rooms we spawn and take ages to kill bots>already know it's gonna be a hard runAnd it's always the blue shields oh my days
>>567213734Infil with blues and greens. It's the only way
>>567245221>Infil with blues and greens>Exfil with purple and golds
Will you play season 2?
>>567245794>>567246165Type of teammates I get, ain't no way I can expect these guys to pull their weightOnce we got to security 2 I pinged another wing to go to and waited until they got to meThey were doing god knows what so I decided 'fuck it' and went soloTHEN when I managed to 1v3 a blue shield squad, they appeared alongside me to loot them
>>567248068Yeah, getting duos as an option really helps.
>>567248068Fuck no, maybe Season 5 but they already told me they're not trying until then. Season 2 is a stopgap bandaid bullshit "solution".
>>567242558They literally announced the change because of falling pop. Otherwise at 4k players I'd have to wait 15 mins for a game.>>567248239Not gonna carry you, To bad for you.
Best cryo run everHAVING A BLAST
>>567249520Don't worry vro, I'll carry your blue shield ass
>>567249520they didn't announce any change to the amount of teams per map
Where do I get the ammo for biotoxic disinjector?Looted it from a purple stack
>>567251598Doesn't matter, you're losing it in two weeks anyway.
>>567251598I think it's dropped by the Compiler as well?
>>567251598I think it can be looted from boxes behind the Compiler, or traded for the material you get from the Compiler.
>>567251893>>567252040So I can't use this weapon...
>get absolutely rekt in cryo for 8 hours straight>most runs end with killing one or two teams then getting rekt by the last one or just retards coming in with GREEN SHIELDS doing their zero to hero bullshit they prolly saw on youtube>2:30 am>decide to do one last outpost solo with a green free kit (i was seething)>literally camp around between processing and flight control using sound cues>kill 2 greens and 1 blue destroyer (had 3 reds)>a thief tries to open pinwheeel and dies to the 3 bots at the start wtf????????????????????????>loot that shit with 1 minute to go>have enough to try one last cryo run>get to control with 2 other purples and realise i didnt bring any shields and a double bully set up with 50 bullets only lol>my team mates leave me alone after recon ult and I get 3v1>apparently there were TWO OTHER TEAMS fighting but shit didnt show up on my screen>i manage to kill one player out of the first team, other team comes and rekts them + me>i was so mad but also didnt want the other 2 on my team to lose their shit so I tell them to just exfill and not lose their shit>they camp for like 10 mins and come back to res me>we hunt down the last 2 teams>one of the teams had everything for a vault>leave with 2 gold weaponsthank you for resing me even tho i told you not to come back for me
>>567252142>he forgot to loot the ammo don't worry. the guy shooting it at me still died so i don't think it's that great of a weapon anymore.
God, the game is so boring now. Same maps, same enemies, same loot spots. They done fucked up by making everything feel the same, every time. I hate watching playback video now because it's all just so... consistent. True, a server wipe gives me a reason to play again, but god damn if there better be some new stuff to do. And by some I mean a lot! If there's not enough new on offer for S2 then I think everyone's going to die of boredom before the REAL update of Season 3.
>queue fill>duo walks into hauler>recon throws her thing>they get hauler'd 2v3>i leave for an exfil>they start complainingevery time
>>567252142you come in with 1000 ammo. i've heard of people taking them as a secondary of sorts for pvp with no backup ammo and it still works
>>567249281Please elaborate
>team locks us out with security>teammate hacks it and i lvl 3 gold circuit breaker instant down an enemy>last team pushing us through a choke and my teammate double frag grenades them downing all threefuck, cryo be fun sometimes.
>>567256171>the no contribution triage with tons of lootlol. was he alright to play with?
Goddamn blue shields really are bad, it's like purple shields have a chance of knowing how to play and blue shields are just the headless chickens with 0 aim and 0 brain
>>567259606he was decent. he would go down and we would finish them off. he had that much loot because of compiler trace. i mostly hoard meds.
>finally git gud and exfil consistently>got boredthe view from up here sucks
vros...
dead threaddead game
>>567122468I just don't like it in this game. Extraction shooters bring out and encourage the grimiest, worst behavior in people. Nothing worse than finally powering through a cock and ball torture contract only to get sniped at the exfil or have a camping squad wipe you out the second you walk out the door. Why grind away when you can fuck someone else over and take their shit?At least in something like Dark Souls invasions are infrequent, and deaths aren't actually all that punishing. With Marathon you lose your progress, lose all your shit, and need to sit through more loading screens.
>>567266823Only someone who complains about PVP interrupting their PVP generator would also complain about camping instead of using their brain for two seconds and thinking to themselves, “This seems effective. I should try it a few times and see how to do it too.” Please keep queuing into my lobbies.
>>567267151I didnt pay 40 dollars to sit in a corner for 20 minutes each deployment you mouthbreathing inbred
I rarely find people camping in cryo or outpost desu senpai
I fucking hate fill Cryo so fucking much, just add a solo option to it already. I get the whiniest faggots this side of the known universe every time.
>>567268117>Says the magic "I spent money, so i deserve X!" >Calls anyone a mouthbreathing retard.You bought a PvP game. If you're absolute gutter trash at PvP (to the point you can't even break into the middle of the pack), you'll never see everything you paid for. You're denser than a cube of Osmium, man.
>>567268543Youre an illiterate faggot, I dont camp because sitting in a corner is boring and a waste of my fucking time and money, it has nothing to do with whether or not I enjoy PvP in my games. Actually kill yourself
I hate cryo fill so much. give me people on my skill level and also that don't talk so I stop being tilted over pussies not pushing with me
>>567268718You don't need to camp, idiot. If anything, attempting to play defensively and passively 90% of your time will just end up with you wasting time and you'll eventually get your shit pushed in by a team that actually gets stuff done. Beyond that, there are very few situations where camping actually pays off and most of them involves a team that's on -1 or -2. You usually want to atleast cook a while on their bags to see whether someone tries to come back to res them. Every other point is situational or involves ambushing a team, which isn't camping. Camping is largely more of a Solo game, but it's barely ever worth it because you're also on the map to either wipe your opponents or grab the loot and you can't be on each and every extract at the same time. Even then, these are issues solely for Perimeter and Dire Marsh, both maps with multiple simple exfil windows vs. the ultra sweaty environment of Outpost/Cryo.
>on pinwheel with my squad>hear two rooks near the red room>the first one is friendly from the get go and we leave him be>the second one shoots me immediately and I chase him down to a dead end>he misses all his shotgun shots>I tap him once with my misriah>he goes on prox chat and tells me to chill and that he learned his lessonFucking kek, rooks really should just flee or be friendly if they see a purple squad cause there's zero chance of winning that
>>567268718Keep donating all your gear to me and I'll keep camping your exfil with it.
>>567268117>40 dollars to run around like a headless chicken and call other people dumb when you don't get what you want bungie has their pve mode on the way for you.
Can we please get fucking solo Cryo already, fill for this map is some of the worst fucking gaming known to man. All of the best experiences in this game that actually feel like playing an extraction shooter and not some gay BR have been in solo where interacting with other players actually matters. I can't believe the retards at Bungie thought they were going to ship a fucking game with mandatory trios for EVERYTHING, I can't even fucking begin to imagine how bad this game would be with zero option to escape premade stacks.
>>567250045"change in matchmaking">>567268719LOL. You're fucked.
>>567271879No because solo cryo would be fun and reasonable, and bungo doesn't do fun and reasonable
chunky value
>>567275689whoa
Rodeo mag is so unfair, feels like people die in a nano second when I use it
>meet the same teammate two times in a row>blunder both times and die stupidlyI just closed marathon out of shame after the second encounter, fucking embarrassing
I found an open key room.
>>567271879>>567273398Cryo should be sponsored-kit-only. Just blues.
>>567271879You're still bitching while I've managed to get an early Compiler clear in and then knock out my remaining subroutines 4 to 6 my dude You literally bought a trios oriented game, go find chill people on discord already
>>567268543>You bought a PvP gameAbject retard. People bought PvPvE game. Note vE which meand PvE. I understand that you are a disingenuous faggot, but you appear to be retarded too.
>>567266360What the fuck... did they grab like 4 misriahs each?
