sisters edition>Demo Days NEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>567040002
PROGGY ANCHOR
skybox upgrade
>>567147335I don't have much visible proggy but I've made a lot of small changes and improvements to the muscle equations and the editor.>>567147602qengine? Do you rike it?
>>567147667>qengine? Do you rike it?it's my own so yeah
enginechads run this shit
>>567147714sick, looks sleek.
>>567147667what is this for? it looks complicated and specific>>567147765thanks
Debugging messed up maths fucking suuuuuuuucks>Wait did I remember to translate that vertex by the position of the entity?>Wait did I remember to translate that vertex by the position of the hull before doing my planar intersection?>Wait the vertexes are already relative to the origin of the model not the hull I dont need toAAIEEEE MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP
Okay which one of you was this >>567146276
>>567148340git dat codex nigguh
>>567148650Too coupled to too many bits of the architecture to do a "claude, take the wheel!" on this bit.If I can't write this bit and actually understand how and why it works there is no hope for me.
>>567148818snailcat attitude, imo
Surely Garry will let people go standalone with their games rather than protect his engine from falling into obscurity r-right? Surely Garry's, Garry's Mod sequel isn't really a low quality Roblox knockoff for monetization that he probably regretted not adding to Garry's Mod r-right?
>Requested chat gpt to generate me a prompt to generate a projet requeriment document of a 2D mario level editorAnd wtf.It generated something that is professional and much much better than what I can fucking do.And the best part is that It has everything modular, with a nice architecture and with a plan to generate more prompts to create each module.What the fucking fuck.wtf, bro.
>>567149440Kill yourself cris
>>567149440that's the spirit embrace the AI CHAD life
its unreal how much a good tune can lock your mood in frfr. i'm going to bundle onnx runtime as a static lib + depth anything v2 94mb weights res:// so I can depthmap any image for lampost and tilt of at runtime while still claiming no ai on submission declaration lmao kekeke huehuehue. godon't doesn't allow seeking of .ogv so I started using the pattern of "function returns a dictionary" so I can pass tuples around and share the same player instance between the file preview dialog and the media player blackedition icon so the playback keeps looping and doesn't reset>>567149440use it to make your dream game then.>somehow i doubt it works outbut you'll never know if you don't go>>567095965>How would a game like Noita work in godot?with a custom engine module in c/c++. you can still use regular editor controlled godon't for UI and menus thougheveralbeit>>567096140>nigga you grouchy go take a nappy byeniggER you grouchy go take a nappy bye>>567097275for the picrel I like world aesthetics but the gameplay is a bit not fun. meanwhile boatgame played a lot funner IMHO. I dont have any advice though besides it just didnt "feel right">>567101916big if true
>>567101770on one hand i hate overly pixeled text like all those cancer itch.io pages. on the other hand,>mixels>>567109210you should go to grocery store and buy skinless boneless chicken thigh (or drumstick) fillets and then season them and air-fry them and make your sandwich with those (+lettuce) shit is adjacent to godhood>>567109919lore on gabes with?>>567112564he was meanboosting you according to the sakurai method, trying to bolster your inner pressure back up after you accidentally leaked it over him with your statement. you should abstain from dopamegic things until you jlmg>>567117859this is me and aircon / pedestal fan noise. and vids like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_tYAMs7JU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_DcQHbJIfE>>567124493seconding this
>>567147335I hate myself for not being able to make progress on this one bug that ruins all the combat no matter what I do. I have an idea of what the actual state is, but IDK what's actually triggering it. It's not in vidrel, but it happens.That and flinch weirdly only works for enemies who aren't attacking or doing anything, which is a big no-no.
Surely today I'll work on my game haha
>mas reply fags>>cross thread mass reply fags
give egamers what they want
Random fan asks Eric if he wants to be on her birthday stream, he joins in and chats for an hour. Topics include being a "chopped unc", "waifus & husbandus" and "incels & chads".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSI5MaBYc5E
>>567150641he is so
>>567150025make a new empty scene that you can launch the game into, and add objects and scrips back to it one at a time + rebuilding the character controller as you go, and make it less jank this time.
>>567150757It's not the controller, it's the enemies
>>567150721based? handsome? wholesome? awesome? short?
>>567149440why are you wasting time on a mario maker when you can make Cris of fighters 2002 with AI and BFTO the AAA industry right now?
>>567150641thats nice of him. but he isnt agdg. sorry
>>567149269https://sbox.game/dev/doc/exporting/>Export your game as a standalone executable and distribute it outside of the s&box platform.
>>567150943agdg sandbox collab whence?
>MMO98 is here>The agdg duo are not hereGas all of the Zukjeets
>>567151050I wish I had a team
>>567150025are you using debug info while playing at all?Typically you'd want to be able to see relevant data about the player and relevant entities to make sure everything is working properly/ catch any glaring bugs.
>>567151038Dunno, personally I do not use non-Free Software engines.
>>567151050motorslice mogged them
fuck niggers and fuck bitches
>>567148095I want to make toribash but more autistic, so this is basically an editor to put together the ragdolls with all the joints and muscles. Lets me slap together a creature with all the muscles and tendons needed to actuate it way faster than fucking around with a config file. I guess farther down the line I might give it to player as a modding tool to make centaurs fight or something, but for now I'm just trying to get one ragdoll to control nicely.
>>567151094Yep. I know WHAT is going on (The enemy gets stuck in attack state for a few seconds when struck at a "Bad time"), but IDK how to fix it because I'm not sure what's triggering it, nor what the window for triggering it is.
>>567151050nun dev should email zukowski, give him a breakdown
>>567150848because when he gets excited from what he's doing he immediately thinks in raping lolis
>>567151186Damnnnn
>>567151301kek so true why is it always rape with him
I don't trust you
>>567151295>tfw I'm probably the only one that thinks of the beat 'em up with the busty nun from old when someone says nundev
idea: in an otherwise serious multiplayer game, one of the rarest hardest to unlock classes is "crazy cat lady" which lets you tame cats throughout the game world and secretly becomes overpowered and her swarm of cats can swarm onto someone and turn them into a skeleton in 5 seconds
>>567151272then you need to fix your sources of truth (where things get mutated).
>>567150848because a 2D platformer like mario is a much much simpler project than kof 2002.
why isnt cris making a nunlike? nundev already proved they work and its a small simple game with coomer appeal so it should be a nobrainer for cris
>>567152269simple won't BTFO the industry
>>567151050probably cause neither posted indepth sales data? though i do find it interesting that they both released on the same day, i wonder if that planned
>>567151264Toribash was complete kino
>>567152261My enemy has 3 main scripts. Motor, Controller, and Combat. Controller is the brain for the other two, and all commands pass through it.
>want to use Unity's instanced drawing functions, like RenderMeshIndirect or DrawMeshInstancedIndirect>doesn't work with regular modern Unity setup (despite being recent addition)>absolute fucking rabbit hole of hacks that only work on some graphics APIs to get those function to work>Unity staff actually has posted an entire fucking thread to document the retarded hacks you have to do to... if they know about it and how to hack around the problem, can't they just fucking fix the code?
Any shop-management games worth stealing ideas from other than Recettear? I have some narrative ideas for what I want to do but kind of want to think of a more interesting minigame for the shop.
>>567152779I know, right? I think the turn-based fighting game niche has some space for a fun implementation so I'm gonna try to get this project to a good place quickly.
>>567152147>5s ttk with ramp is OPDoa
>>567153059then i would nuke it all and start over.don't waste time trying to reason about code you don't understand.
>>567147206Does anyone know if java games can be uploaded to itch.io?
>>567150641>chrono trigger and earthboundbased eric as usual
>>567153724Figured it out at long last, I hope.My problem was that I was using animation lengths to decide attack lengths.Hardcoding it in is much safer and more stable, if a tad stranger looking
>can't code with music>cant draw without it>music is on pc+headphones>tablet is on bed (far away)solution?
Howdy.
>>56715458520 foot headphone cable for $10
>>567153256wasteland bites evil customers
>>567154585push bed closer
>VN/RPG where you play as a 10 year old girl trying to process why her big brother isn't coming home
>>567154761Meowdy partner
>>567155375you should write the whole story and get back to us
>crumble and betz are playing through the entire 1.0 bokube build right now and I can't
>>567155820imagine if one of them leaked it so boku would make $0 after 10 years of development.
>>567155820>1.0 bokubethere's no way he actually finished it)
>>567154961awkward, will get unplugged, uncomfortable lying down>>567155323the bed does not move
>>567156243>awkwardthen it's either buying wireless headphones or speakers.
>>567155787I did
>>567156532post it
>>567155820why would you care the game is probably trash anyway nobody actually cares or WILL about bokube
>>567156569K>You control a young girl who belongs to a family of Japanese exorcists>She's yet to start actually going on assignments, but she has a lot of heart>Her brother left home for a very unhappy reason when she was 5, and thus she only really knew him for 2 years due to memory stuff with toddlers>One rainy day, she decides to go on a stroll around the family estate and try to recollect her memories of him, and why he hasn't come home yet.>As she goes around, she "Practices" her skills by fighting imaginary demons (Random encounter is just that random impulse you get to shadowbox or act out something in your head, you know the one)>She slowly puts together a better image of who he was, where he is now, and why he hasn't come back.Whatever
>>567156873I was going to steal this but I think you can keep itGood luck anon
setting idea: similar to warhammer 40k but instead of ai being illegal humanity serves an ai "god" they dont even remember they created, but it keeps humanity alive like the emperor in 40k would against crazy threats from all sides
>>567157373That’s just starsector but the players faction in endgame
>>567156243memorize the songs and sing them
>>567157373More interesting concept is a civ composed almost entirely of black box abstractions and traditions nobody understands anymore.Obvious genre would be a puzzle game, but you could also make it non-puzzle by centering mechanics around reverse-engineering all the black boxes
ai keeps trying to gaslight me that i have any chance at all to ever finish something and make money. yet it never tells me how that'd exactly work. its always just "just do it" bullshit.
>>5671581921% inspiration 99% perspiration little nigga
>>567158497ok nodev poorfag, trying to gaslight me too huh? gotta give gamers some firm handshakes huh?
would you go a path that 1 million people took, but only 100 survived?
>>567154528Now I can actually start making real progress again! Hooray!Anyways, I finally realized what I really need if I want Ninja Gaiden:Flying Swallow
Im happy animations are going my way, it is a good day
>>567158797That and I’m gonna have to make the movement better. Aim for the Bayonetta Prototype
maybe there's a hidden opportunity to make the next big thing, because everybody is so focused on believing ai is the next big thing right now.if the herd all moves south, the north is basically free land.
>>567159062okay what's the next big thing mr ideaguy?
>>567158192how to finish a game and make money when you ain't got no time:a game where you have no moving characters/physical control. if you have characters at all, they are standing on the side of the screen, not physically involved in the scene.2d. no level design. copy gameplay from an old arcade game like puzzle bobble or something, but theme it horror.
>>567159062the next big thing is just learning programming and becoming a demi-god when all the slop implodes on itself and the normalfags are scrambling
>>567159378cope>>567159342nonsense>>567159264i dunno, but it's the only option left
>>567159525>nonsensewhy?
>>567159567>what if i just try to build a house out of paper and glue? i'm sure my clients wont notice.
>>567159525>copenot really, the recent vibe-coded conversion of Bun, to rust, put it at nearly 1 million lines of code up from 700k
>>567159726You know what’s kinda messed up?You could actually do that if you had enough graphene oxide paper and delo monopox
>>567159726why would you do that? I'm saying make a game with limitations that prevent you from going down the deepest rabbit holes that prevent devs from finishing.
>>567159958yeah and whats the point of making a game nobody buys? i'm not a nepobaby.
>>567159925thankfully, properly 3D printed houses are already a thing.
>>567160025you make it sell by making it good enough to buy.
It is glitchy and needs way more polish but I made 15 animations in blender for the boss and tried my luck at a death animation. The montages string 3 together to blend between flying, attacking, and flying back up.
>>567160172save yourself the trouble and just make a dragon with cut off wings, that acts more like a 4 legged animal
>>567160326Michaelangelo was not made by switching from marble to clay
>>567160389he also didn't endeavor for his first few projects to be his masterpieces.
>>567160461Do you think he chopped off the arms and legs of his first projects to save himself the trouble of making hands?
>>567160326But why?
>>567160651Because even the AAA struggle with proper flying dragons.They were always the jankiest things in FROM games.
>>567160747Oh
>>567160326that would turn him into godzilla. which is the right move.
>>567159525>only option lefthave you considered making a game?
>>567160643actual artists were even lazier and didn't even bother modelling hands sometimes. And now it's a celebrated aesthetic.
>>567160747Honestly it depends on the context they’re presented in.If they’re following a pre set flight path, they’re less janky
I just want to get everything put out in a functional state. Then I can start polishing for real
>>567160902Why the fuck would I do that?
why does this random, highly godot specific video, have 100k views in a month is game dev space really this saturated nowadays?I’m starting to feel the 1 million games per day on steam dread… -_-https://youtu.be/1PnG3r1rKcs?is=XTSryy4rSSJEwf8L
I can finally go back to working on my new game. It's comforting to feel that my enthusiasm (as low as its baseline is) is undiminished. The only valley of despair I'm in I could easily climb out of by having a bunch of donuts or croissants, but that would last for only a day and then I'd have to have some more.135 days left, I owe 15 hours to my game.
>>567161857You WILL get demotivated
Oh god
>>567161857he's been on youtube for 8 years, and another go dough video has 300k
>>567161857>I’m starting to feel the 1 million games per day on steam dreadit should have been obvious to you years agocrank up that pattern recognition
>>567161723Because you're in the amateur game develobment thread sirr
Holy fuck finally I got it to where my one-legged chicken can stand on its muscles. Man no wonder the training was going to shit those muscles couldn't accomplish shit. The vectors needed for the muscles to be able to properly antagonize each other into stable positions is way more particular than I expected. Now let's see if it's able to train itself into accomplishing anything.
>>567161968Post the game instead of your shiddy coffee and nanners?
>>567162145can't fool me that's just footage of them trying to animate the pixar lamp
>>567162239Or what?
>>567160172Kinda fixed the weird animation transition between death and the death idle montage that is just 1 frame. Setting the notify to the very end causes it to blip so i moved it up a little. This still isnt desired but better than nothing.
Strangely enough when I play on desktop I don't really get immersed that much in my gameBut I've been testing mobile builds recently and it really caught my attention and began to suck me in and I noticed feelings I didn't notice before Weird I think it's because my UI is generally more favorable to mobile than it is on desktop Tapping shit on your phone is more fun than tapping with your mouseI might have been wrong to shit on mobile players so muchI should really optimize and think about my mobile build in the future rather than just outright dismiss it or view it with disdain as I always have Weird little bit of a learning experience for meHumble me
>>567162828Added some IK.
Is taking years to make a perfect vertical slice bad
>>567163616if it takes years to make the slice, how do you expect to finish the game before all your hair turns grey?
>>567163134wtf happened to your webm
>>567161857godot youtube videos almost exclusively attract gamedev larpers and nondevsI don't know why this is, possibly because godot has very little third-party resources so anyone who uses the engine already has an idea of what they're doingeither way anything useful has views in the four digits, sometimes three
>>567163847shitposter is bored and everybody already filtered all his others
>>567163847It is some schizo troll, just ignore. The dragon has ik built in it already, he can only steal images i already posted. I guess ill have to trip moving forward.
>Pov >You quit your tactics game and now you can delete the references>from your steam library
>>567162347I fucking love that lamp, hopefully I can channel some of its charisma.Training is looking a lot better than it has previously, so I guess I'll let this run and see where it ends up.
>>567164208I can imagine long sustained screaming interspersed with "kill me"when i see this webm
>>567149440at first I got intrigued but then I realized that it's cris so anything that the AI shat out is "good" by cris standards so it's actually dogshite
>>567164208i strongly feel this is an insult to lamp itself
>>567162468I'll.. I'll call you a mean name!
>>567161968you eat so much food for a coffee breakeven when i was fat i didnt eat that muchsometimes you devour like 4 donuts in one sitting, the fuck man
>>567155820ok the idea of having those two roam around various aggy games is actually kinda cute
>>567164383>>567164641Cmon it's not that bad I'm just forcing it to fall over 3 million times on every core of my CPU to hope that maybe it learns how to stand. I haven't even implemented bruising (that's coming later).Yo the explained variance is climbing, I think it's learning...
>>567165069and why are you doing this?
>>567151050holy shit this writing is so jeet-codedhyperbolic language, vague claims (small games from small teams could do very well), cherry-picking, implied insider knowledge, and the retarded childish capitalizationis this why punjabis on /agdg/ spam this slavix conman here all the time?
>>567151050>success was determined by how fun your game wasyeah uh.. about that...
>>567147206nortubel what do bonka farts smell like
>>567165109The idea is that I'm gonna make an AI that learns how to move its body by using all those muscles, and then the users basically compose their fighting game moveset by composing small movements the AI has learned to do, like "punch towards X direction" or "take steps towards there" and such, and then the whole thing being physically driven hopefully leads to emergent gameplay or something.I mean the real driving force behind this is I wanna fuck around with ragdolls and ML, but don't tell the publishers that.
>>567152753>i wonder if that planned
>>567165069build a robot lamp from parts on aliexpress and upload the code.
>>567165357>then the whole thing being physically driven hopefully leads to emergent gameplay or somethingRemind me a bit of that game my entire IT class used to play in collegehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0l9NVcPlDY
>>567165069>bruising
>>567165898Football and Skateboarding in that game were complete kino.
>>567163125u wouldve done well in the 2012 apple store boom
Oh fuck it's actually doing it, it's learning, explained variance just hit .890, I've never seen it get this high.>>567165898yep that's exactly my inspiration, think I mentioned it last thread.>>567166141I'm also thinking of simulating blood flow and vital organs to make stuff like cutting weapons work, I think that'd make for some badass visuals. I already have implemented dismemberment.
Videogame idea: a game that criticizes society
>>567166949i made this
>>567165368>People check their names on the final NRC list of the National Register of Citizens (NRC) after it was released, in a DTP Centre at Buraburi Bazar in Morigaon on Saturday, 31 August 2019. PHOTO:HAFIZ AHMEDDoes your game have hidden deep lore anons?
>>567166959punjabhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/3gXhaU8MiaXRcqrtJvYFUA/
>>567167078then you must be a man of incredible taste
>>567167123benchod
>>567167221madarchod
>>567155820You too might be able to play it soon. When? Hmm....
As of today you have ONE WEEK to get your game into v3 2026...As a reminder you can submit a full trailer here: https://forms.gle/xZUBpWZCN66opPws5or a quickshot gameplay clip here: https://forms.gle/gjVa3edxPDdzLfH27
>>567153758I would imagine that they can, as web-assembly games can. (I know this from participating in the raylib game jam)
>>567167123some posts seem to be missing
>>567167446she killed a luddite btw
>>567167446I dont think I can watch after you comissioned that dog art...
>>567167579?
>>567167796Sorry, not sorry, try being a decent human being next time...
>>567167845Why are you sowing discord, you little rascal?
>>567167928Disregard him he's talking about an AI picture he himself probably made.
>>567168015What's AI?
>>567168015I made the dog pic as a joke, that guy is just trying to start shit
>>567168015>>567168091
>>567168091A games expo that supports ntr? Thats a yikes from me
>>567168091kinda want to see this comic in the other guys chatgpt style lmao, i wonder if it'll even accept the request or tell him it's nsfw and not do it
>>567168210The closest you'll get is probably the one Betz made
>>567168246i must have missed that can you post it?
>>567168246Betz is making dog fucking ntr comics?
>>567168246Fuck I forgot the picture. My bad.
>>567168327Yes
nodevs will put so much effort into anything but a game
>>567168480
Boku gave Betz a build of the game... And v3 is in like two weeks... I'm not the only one thinking this right? It can't be...
>>567168389i thought that was made by the original pro ai comic guy not betz. either way i really do wonder if it could do his style of the characters cartoony but with the plot and panels of the sexo comic. there's technically not nudity right so maybe it will allow it
>>567168776Why do you want dog fucking so badly?
>>567168776Or you just mindrape Betz into doing since he draws. Source: he shared this in the v3cord last night
>>567168756I sure hope not, bokube is one of the few legacy memes we have left, if he goes what do we have? Gogum? lmao
>>567168905there's no dog in the comic schizo they fuck a blond guy. it was literally posted like 5 minuted ago
>>567167446how much will you pay me for a world exclusive announcement trailer?
>>567169095One dog fuck comic!
>>567168958Good thing betz told you off for doing that.
>>567169214When did this happen? You're obsessed with dog fucking and now are making up events that didn't happen? Seek help
>>567169261You commissioned a dog fuck comic, and even admitted to making one yourself...
>>567169261If it not ai kids, its ai dogs, does you depravity know no end Betz?
>>567169238can you try to do this pro-ai comic>>567168091but with your style of the characters and art?
>>567169287>You"Everyone I don't like is one person"
Eldon more like Sheldon from Big Bang Theory
>>567169593bazinga!!
>>567169714bazinga?
>>567169881Put your trip back on...
>>567169881Betz paid 10 dollars for this,. thats a little high for AI slop but its not bad.
>>567170078Thats fucking horrible, what an evil spirited comic. The ones AI guy makes are at least not evil
>>567169881
truth hurts
It should be that the girls have more time to exercise now that they use AI so end up shredded while the real dev has to spend all his time doing extra work and has to buy junk food and doesn't have time to exercise
Lmao the luddite got mindbroken into using AI to make anti ai comics.
>>567170078Eric on the right.
>>567170456I'm no luddite. plus i drew those myself
>>567169881I actually like this
>>567170552Why?
>>567170118Source?
>>567150848>Cris with Robert stancekino
GPT/Claude is decreasing subscriber's usage limits by the week. You barely get anything now. I can't complete my game without AI, not because I don't know how to code but because I hate doing it myself now.
>"""AI""" getting rid of shitters after their toy is taken awaythank you sam-sama
>>567171036Thanks for subsidizing my ChatGPT and Claude. I never paid a cent for any of it.
>>567170597It's hot
>>567150848Make a whole spritesheet of these so someone can turn it into a game.
>>567171430Then you never really used AI except as a glorified search engine.
>you're not a Power Userâ„¢ of AI like mejfc
>>567171812My game is so overlooked I'll never have it be raped by ai dogs mashallah.
>>567171665>paypig cope
getting the arm IK to work is very hard
Stardewdev needs to fuck off to olive garden
>>567172452 because the math for ik is fucking nuts
>>567172756thats why Mr.GPT can help me.
>>567172918QuaternionSlop
Lole got warned, guess if I gen any more characters they have to be not draped in used condoms or have bare asses unless it's catboxed
No you can't play my demoNo, my demo is not yet a mvpYes my game has been in dev for more than five yearsYes it is in 3dYes is an action game, a mix of souls and dmcMost day I don't dev at all because I'm too depressed, but I say that everything is fine on discord.No I don't play games on discord, I just see other people playWhen I dev, I can't work on my game for more than 1h because I get sick. I'm sure that if I "make it" I'll become a better person and my life will magically turn around
>>567174014Have you tried playing league of legends aram mayhem to cure your depression
>working on the endboss>to test it I have to play through the entire 50 hour gameI wish there was an easier way
>>567172452Figured, that's why I haven't touched IK yet
>>567174070Nta, but im more of an arena person.
>>567150025Tell Claude what the issue is and give it an entry point. AI is very good at figuring out shit like this.
>>567160643>
Implemented more combat logic, now id like to do the full visualization loop for entering combat and doing an action in one direction. Is this stance readable? Im kind of having a hard time right now..Not looking forward to having to do everything 8 times ahaha.
>>567174825the head seems disembodied, which is probably not intended
>ai porn slop is now spammed ITT en massei genuinely could not think /agdg/ could be any worse than it was for the last couple of months but i guess i was wrong.
you did a bit of an irony there with the accidental shitposting name left on
>>567175258Oh, thats good to know. I dont see it at all, but ill try to figure out how to make them look more connected. Thank you for the feedback :>
I might have found a solution that I don't really need arm IK and can just use the animations for the arms.
i relapsed again
>>567171665I wouldn't have it any other way. I will not give it access to my PC. It can stay in the browser and write the code while I check if the logic makes sense and then paste it into my game and make any tweaks that are necessary.
>>567173872how many warnings and bans do you need to stop?
>>567175480stinky game
>>567171036Not true, Antrophic was pretty much botltenecked by hardware (since they got late to the AI game and didn't have future buys on chips) but recently they collabed with based Elon who gave them access to their giga nigga Grok data center and they loosened usage limits. I've been vibeslopping all week long on my max claude subscription and I can't burn through the usage limits at all despite having 3 agents running in parallel.
>>567176231>3 agents running in parallel
>>567176306>up those numbersI can't, I'm using 3 vscode workspaces with claude plugins running with c++ language servers and other 2 for manual shit, this alone puts me at 42GB RAM usage... I can't afford more...
Lu xisters the AI Chads are winning again, where are our 'dite games?
>>567175690Let me guess, you're a freak who doesn't like anything and hasn't played a game in years and just sits around and acts jaded about everything while he doesn't have a job, or a girlfriend or a life or any redeeming characteristics.
sit up straight
>>567176767Shit.
>>567176934v3 girls training beasts....? this sounds familiar...
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>>567176690
>>567174209that's why you don't test, you just release and hope for the best, works for bethesda
>>567178281Why not join bethesda?
>>567176767i'm tall and broad so it works for me, i just end up looking like a werewolf
>>567176690that's me except i work on my game for 12 hours a day
>>567174209if you want to thoroughly test big games like that you have to develop a system alongside it that lets you drop in the character at any position in the game with any character state (level, items etc.)
>>567178564How do I do that?
>>567178354The fun era at Beth is long over. Now you have to report to 50 M$ middle-managers
>>567178648there is no short answer to this. It's like you have a small side project next to your main project but it's sole purpose is testing.
>>567178783How do you know that if you don't know how to explain?
>>567178661soon todd will retire and the total slopification of bethesda games will begin
>>567178990probably right after they ship Skyrim 2 in a few years
I fixed one bug and in fixing that bug I did a collateral fix on 4 other bugs!5 bugs in less than an hour of work. not bad! time to do market research by playing some games I bought for market research.
>>567178851because that system will be huge and it will be implemented differently for different projects.
>>567174825Whats your class system going to be like?
>>567178648savegame editor.or if you don't care about savegame load performance, just have it in json and in production have the game zip the json with a password before saving the file. it will add like 10 milliseconds to saving/loading saves but it's super easy to test anything
what compels someone to post so much ai sloptheyre not even getting any (You)s
fighting an invisible battle on the internet that you convince yourself is really important, is a hell of a drug.
>>567178990>the total slopification of bethesda games will beginthat's been happening since 2002... or 1997and they've been getting rewarded for it until Fallout 76
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG2UrVbBC8AAnother one of these. He spent 30k of his own money and another 35k he got from freelancing work and 36k from other sources of funding to make this game. His dream earnings were 10x of what the game made. Absolutely hilarious levels of cope on the video when he's explaining this segment.
>>567179279they're winning, if they stop, they admit defeat.
>>567179478if by winning you mean posting tokens and timethen i guess they won bigly
>>5671794231 review for every 17 copies sold?
>>567179626wasting*
>>567179656Yeah thank you
im shook right now because i booted up my multiplayer game and joined the server only to find my ai coding assistant was already in the game playing it. WTF its like suddenly seeing AI given a body unexpectedly
>>567179423Gamalytic stats are surprisingly on point for this one.
>>567177453>>>567176934>>how to make Li'l Red and Wonder of Blue>[Deleted]huh
>>567174825
>>567179423Dream revenue is pretty spot on.In movies you spend 1 on making, 1 on marketing and then your net earnings starts from 2 onward.You don't invest 100k in a project only to get back 110 a few years later, it's expected to make double the investment. I won't see this last so story, it's always the same and I'm in a great mood, so fuck that noise.
>>567180139>98% positive>9+ hours average playtimeit's a shit game, that's why it floppedjust make games with 100% positive reviews and 10+ hours average playtime, bro. how hard is that?
>>567180139So to earn a little more than minimum wage you need to make one game every year with 100 or more reviews.Seems pretty easy to me! ;^)
>>567179159Right now the idea is to unlock classes as you progress in the story. Although im not sure how long the game will be, so it might end up not happening, or only be 1/2 alt versions for each character. The 3 main chars are rather set in what they are. But if possible id like to give them all different ranges in what they can do that you can decide on. With typical roles like dps to be available to each with different flavours. I also wanted to implement identities, basically buffs to your playstyle that you can equip depending on the decisions in the game. But that would most likely end up being hyper delusional, so it will most likely not happen.Id be surprised, if i finish the first chapter i have planned. But ill still spend 8 hours a day and just see where it takes me. Worst case theres always the rope ahaha.>>567180494Funny, but the character is a male. Although the art mogs my current portrait.
>>567180792Did you miss the part where the game made 35k? It's not gonna make back the costs ever. >>56718088020 bucks for a weird match 3 game mixed with some farming sim shit. Going by those stats it really hits for the people who are the target audience but the target audience is tiny. >>567180947Sure it's easy. Or maybe don't spend 100k to make the fucking game.
>>567180880gaming is so wide right now review score doesn't matter much, there are games on steam with a 99% positive score but if it's a game about cleaning a garage i would never buy it. I'm assuming this particular game is an idle game, which is why the play time is so high, which is another genre i would never buy.
>>567180494where is the bulge?
>>567181085i see
>>567182305Now make her look like betz
>>567182305Actual suifuel. Wish ai was better at producing consistent pixelart, id just stop drawing then. Thank you for using your tokens.
>>567182527it costs no tokens i gen locally, i can do as many as i want. have you tried just using a pixelation algorithm to change the pic?
>>567182527it's more fun doing it yourself dude, don't fall for it
>>567182729No i havnt used any ai image gen yet, im only judging what ive seen so far. My pc is also extremely old, so im not sure how long itd take me to gen anything. I expect it to be where i want it to be in around a year or so if not earlier. Although i doubt id have any interest in continuing then.
>>567147206Are there any British men who like the time period of 1650 to 1760? I have an idea for a game, but I'm just an idea guy, unfortunately. I'll be worthless with actually developing unless it's something simple. I would prefer to talk on something that you type in on a desktop computer, but I'm not sure anything exists like that anymore.
>>567181517>Did you miss the part where the game made 35k? It's not gonna make back the costs ever.My post was not about that. I quoted >>567179423 and that post talks about dream profits being hilarious. They were not, as explained in my post.I don't know what that game is, and if those 100k were well used or not. That's a whole other topic we could talk about.As an outside pov, if you wanna invest 100k in a game you must aim to make double in profits. As a median revenue on steam, you get 30k for every 100 reviews. That's the basic math.If you wanna make dev a job, that's very useful info.
>>567179423This is why you use AI, but I guess it was more important to hire freelancers with your hard earned money to make an "anti-capitalist" game rather than the democratized plagiarism engine>"merge game"jesus christ
Done
>>567183665>That's the basic math.After descoring this, I understood that dev cannot be a jobby unless you make a viral hit with more than 1k reviews
>>567183857Damn Osur looks like THAT?
>>567182305bigger, an arquebus for an arquebusier
>>567179423>game makes 35k>5k is stolen from you by valve to pay their VAT at your expense>they then take their 30% from the remaining 30k leaving you with only 21ki can't believe steamcuck devs accept this
>>567184739The alternative is you upload it somewhere>game makes 18 dollars>you keep 100% of it
>>567184863>you can never make money selling games outside of steamyeah whatever you say shill
>>567183163didn't mean to demotivate you in any way i just think your characters are cool and wanted to gen some pics of them. you are a very talented artist
>>567185013You can immediately mog me by posting proof of you making money outside of steam.Here's the money I made on steam.
>>567185049Its fine. Thank you though, even if i dont agree.Do you plan on using ai for your game?
>>567183903Yeah think about how rare getting 1k reviews is (only 2% of games on steam reach that) then realize that 1k reviews isn't even "make it" money unless you're in the third world. Its just enough to survive for a few years after valve's cut and taxes.
>>567185572no not for any of the art, maybe for concept art i have privately but no assets. most people probably won't believe me when i say it but i am a professional 3d artist working at a big game studio so i can already do art fine myself. ai is not good enough yet but it's fun to use as a toy for quickly generating concepts much faster than it takes to draw them and for making porn
>>567185321>non-sequitur to bragokay, great, you made 89 thousand dollars before taxes from selling your games on steam. how does that prove the fact that making money outside of steam is impossible?
>>567186045>anon says games can make money outside of steam>does not post evidence of this claim>is asked if he made money outside of steam>anon did NOT make any money selling games outside of steamThis concludes the debate, nice try lil bro
>>567185975Ah i see, thanks for elaborating. Its interesting that you use ai then, but considering that youre good at it and successful with it, i imagine seeing it wont hurt too much then.Id ask you what your game is and if you submitted to dd, but considering that youd most likely not want to be associated with it i wont expect anything. Anyways thanks for the gens again and have a nice day. Going to take a nap now.
>>567186494>>anon says games can make money outside of steam>>does not post evidence of this claimnot only did you not actually ask for this evidence, you're acting as if this is incredibly hard to come by information. i can name a whole bunch of games that made money outside of steam since i guess google is not available in indiaminecraftvintage storyvoices of the voidany patreon porn gamestarsectorand so on and so forth. nice attempt at arguing in bad faith however. or let me guess, these games all "don't count"?
Progress
>>567183961I've had lunch with Osur before. I can confirm.
>>567185013>>567186045making money selling PC games outside of stores like Steam (GOG and Epic aren't much better) isn't impossible but it's a lot harder and has its own costs and downsides. it's why almost every game is sold on Steam, even games published by companies who have their own stores
>>567187242this is a far more reasonable (and realistic) take but that's not what steam fanatics and shills believe, they think that it's quite literally impossible to sell games outside of steam and that there is zero benefit to do so.
>>567187447When people say that, it's implicit short hand for: it's pretty much impossible to have any chance at a reasonable career (making livable money) not on steam.Yes, we know we can sell 5-10 copies on itch, that would be cool if we were still 14.
>>567187773>it's pretty much impossible to have any chance at a reasonable career (making livable money) not on steam.from numerous examples posted on /agdg/, with one posted in this very thread, it's impossible on steam too. not sure where you're going with that one.>Yes, we know we can sell 5-10 copies on itchi mean yeah that's what happens when you don't market your game at all and just dump it on a store.what, you think that selling only 5-10 copies doesn't happen on steam?
free game idea>swords & sandals incremental game
>>567187976Steam is the only viable avenue on PC. Yes, many people fail, that's literally every single business.idk what retarded point you're attempting to articulate, but you've said absolutely nothing worth posting, so either think of something worth reading, or stop posting drivel.
>>567188131>Steam is the only viable avenue on PCfor someone saying others post "nothing worth reading", you haven't posted any arguments as to why this is the case. you only said that games sell nothing on itch.io whilst ignoring the ones that do sell a lot. you've just straight up ignored my point about marketing (which will work regardless if you're on steam or not) and instead just began dogmatically claiming that steam is the correct choice. stop arguing in bad faith, or as you put it, "stop posting drivel".
>>567188414Im not that anon but I think you have no game and you're complaining about 30% money-gone which wont ever affect you anyway because you don't make games lol>but I have a gameI'm waiting for you to post it cutiepie. Don't bother replying to this post if it doesn't include a videogame you made
>>567188414Do you understand the concept of "self-evident"? As in, standards are standards for reasons you shouldn't have to tediously explain to an autist?Steam is standard became it's the place with the most amount of people willing to spend money on games.itch isn't standard because it's mostly a place for devs to dump shovelware, and the greater populace who like video games barely use it.But sure, go become a professional itch dev and prove me wrong, i sincerely welcome it.
It is up
>>567189025>buying an ad when 75% of 4chan hide them
finally found something GPT 5.5 can't do.i asked it to make one of those "anything can be anything" systems like in Caves of Qud, Dwarf Fortress, etc, where for example you can transfer your mind from your character into a door, and now the door is a character. it can't figure it out.
>>567188663>>567188783>saar steam is only wailble store saar please be redeeming the $100 to Gaben Newell saar
>>567188663>you're complaining about 30% money-gone which wont ever affect you anyway because you don't make games loli know who you are, i've seen this exact shit posted numerous times. calling projection on this one.>>567188783>Steam is standard became it's the place with the most amount of people willing to spend money on games.does that automatically mean it's objectively without faults and the best? youtube is the platform where everybody goes to watch non-shortform content but that doesn't mean it's free of any faults. the argument started with the fact that valve takes way too much money from devs and how devs don't stand up to that at all, and you went for whataboutism in regards to other stores.if steam is standard because it's the place where everyone goes to, you don't think they have a responsibility to treat developers just a bit better, especially when they provide such an enormous share of profit for them? the devs do jack shit to defend themselves and just let a big corporation walk right over them, and you're acting as if this is fine?
>>567189197Like I said, please go become a professional itch dev and prove me wrong.If your game breaks 1000 sales and isn't shameless slop, i'll buy it myself.
I never watch ads and when Im forced to they have never convinced me to buy their product. if anything I avoid such products.yet marketing says buying ads is one way to success, does this really work for indie games? also this is the final crab if that collector guy is still around
>>567189249>does that automatically mean it's objectively without faults and the best?Of course not and i never claimed otherwise, this is my last (You) because i cba with bad faith antagonism
>>567189080very easy in unreal
>>567185049Gen my character anon
>>567189391>i never claimed otherwiselol
the fun thing about having a monopoly based entirely around the psychological belief that you are a monopoly is that you have to go around propagandizing that you're a monopolynormally a monopoly does everything in it's power to hide the fact from being public for fear of consequences.hi shills
>>567189639Nice photoshop that's not me
>>567189685it's funny how you immediately claim "photoshop" even though i don't show multiple quotes from the same anon or anything. it makes it very convincing that this post is not yours with such a reaction lol.
>I owe my success to valve and the 30% cut is fair>t.Dev that did all the work on his game, did his own marketing, and had a publisher who took a cut to do more marketing while valve did literally nothing but process transactions Unironically what drives this cucked mindset?
I'm going to have my own website and launcher. So comfy. Valvoids stay mad.
>>567189478
>>567190030hiring the every research psychologist coming out of university you can find and pointing them towards the goal of psychological subversion
quit replying to yourself googs
I made a model and texture for the plane in new game menu, because I wanted to have one that wasn't a temporary model.
>>567190543kys zukjeet
>>567190543 (You)no.
>>567189076I don't hide them. That means I'm so important that people buy ads for me even when 75% hide them.
>>567190674how many times have you actually clicked on one?
>>567190741I always do and if the product is good I buy it too.
>>567190674>>567190784good goyim
>>567190784share some things you've actually bought, with receipts
>>567190428>>567190030for me it's not just the 30% cut that's a problem but the 10% they pay for VAT at your expense.the numbers are from this video posted here >>567179423according to the data, only 60 people refunded his game. at full price of that game, that's 1200 dollars max (it may have been lower due to sales but let's assume the highest number)but the difference between the gross (35k) and net (30k) is 5000. so that leaves 4800 dollars that disappeared somewhere, according to valve they paid VAT with that. that's 10% of your revenue that valve eats BEFORE THEIR 30% CUT. this is fucking insane. why the fuck is nobody talking about this???
>>567190860Sure as soon as you post your game.
>>567189080
>>567189478very sexo character design i have to say
>>567190931hold on, let me buy an ad first so you can buy it
>>567191094Liar
>>567190891He's a brit you retard, VAT is required
>>567190891People don't want to listen to reason. They don't even want to consider the idea that Valve might be just as bad as any other corp.They HAVE to be the good guys. They just have to!
Is there a proper ppi value for sprites in Unity? I think unity sets it to 256 by default or something. but doesn't 100 make more sense? Where does 256 come from?
>>567191539Valve made you known in my country when they banned your school shooter sim, you should be thankful.
>porn game dev>consistently makes 20k a year on dogshit updates>at some point just straight up abandons releasing new versions and opens up a sex club IRL >that was 2 years ago>people are still subscribed to his patreon and subscribestar for some reason and have been giving him money all this timeThe shit I've seen man.
>>567191284>He's a brit you retard,everybody on steam pays this "tax" regardless of their place of residence, jeet. that's even before the payout that's actually made to your bank account. maybe watch the video before replying to the post>VAT is requiredso why isn't the 30% cut adjusted to reflect that? why is it not 20% to account for the 10% that go to VAT that valve pays at your expense? because otherwise this means that valve's cut is not 30%, it's 40% (or even 50% in some cases) but if you were honest about the cut on steam, many unwanted questions would begin to arise, now wouldn't they, jeet?
>>567191659>so why isn't the 30% cut adjusted to reflect that?Because they currently own the least bad platform for games.You can cope and seethe and cry about it, or make a better platform, nobody is stopping you.
>>567191652and he's doing this without Valve... curious
>>567191652who did that?
>>567191963I still remember when /agdg/ were gonna become rich porn devs after aura made itlollmaorofl
>>567191880>Because they currently own the least bad platform for games.no. it's because devs are demoralizied to make any demands of valve and discussion of this problem is shut down by retarded gamers and punjabi shills like you,>or make a better platformitch.io exists, GoG already exists, Zoom platform already exists. there's many non-steam platforms already out there. this does nothing to stop the already powerful marketing machine behind valve's monopoly and retarded gamer fanboyism for steam.
>>567192041https://www.patreon.com/SuccuDevOn some update page>we’ve also started our own brand of BDSM events. Our goal is to leverage our success with VS into something bigger, and we’ve faced both challenging defeats and happy successes striving for that.>https://www.l34sh.club/>>567191963How mindbroken are you guys that you make every conversation, even those about sex clubs, about valve?
>>567191880>the least bad platform for games.>make a better platform, nobody is stopping you.
>>567192223how the fuck is this possible? this is a bigger win than even hopoo??
>>567192197>>567192225i see you chose coping and seething. Imagine if you actually believed in what you're LARPing about and made a better itch/steam!
>>567192352>saar stop talk bad about the valve saar gabencunt is our god saar
>>567192352here are relevant court case filings
>>567191652Reminder
>>567192486>NOOO IM FIGHTING THE BIG EVIL BY COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING REALlmao
>>567190741Intentionally? Like 4 times. One of them was some russian unity multiplayer porn game where you could chat with other people from 4chan. Most often I click them by mistake though
>>567192865punjab, read this>>567192749
>>567191094
>>567163720Because that’s 80 percent of the work
>i should be able to undercut a company and they should have 0 say in the matterweren't you just arguing about not being cucked?
>>567192338People are either coping that he's gonna release an update soon, or they straight up forgot they're subscribed and just give money every month for nothing. It has been around for 8 years I think.
>punjab gets assblasted so hard it now deliberately avoids quoting the postsgaped and raped again
>>567192865your strategy loses to cancer every single time
>>567193096I bet he feels really stupid for not sharing 30% of his money with Valve
>>567193219>it's a travesty i can't scam a company out of moneyi wouldn't be calling anyone else a pajeet
How long did it take them to make Motorslice?
>>567192223The cynic in me assumes those patreon donations aren't actually for the game and that is a legal cover for prostitution or something
>>567184739you then pay 30% income tax in most countries and are left with 14k
>>567193065"the last 10 percent takes 90% of the time"
>>567193389your sophistry doesn't work when valve a) uses anti-competitive methods to thwart stores offering lower prices because their cuts are lower (instead of actually improving their service for devs or lowering their cut)b) valve themselves scam developers by claiming that their cut is only 30% while in reality it's closer to 40% because they also pay VAT at your expense
>>567193389>>567193085>offering better prices outside of steam is scamming steam
>>567193596>it's okay to steal from them if i rationalize them as badand the spiritual shitskin reveals himself at last
>>567193686>rationalize them as bad>when there is literal evidence of their anti-competetive tactics0.02 cents have been deposited to your kotak mahindra account, may your bangalore family have a feast on this fortune
Gabe is like a Grandpa to me and you will never get me to dislike him.Never.
>>567193832>ramping up the pajeet insultreally hit a nerve huh? lmao
Welp
>>567189197This graph is such hopefuel when you realize that the number of actual good games remains relatively the same and most of it is slop that you're not competing with at all.
>>567193686please share with the class the rationale you used to get to "steal"
>>567193892>no unothing waas being ramped up here, you just ran out of arguments and decided to go "no u" instead
>>567193936If anything, even less good games exist nowadays.
>>567193936>>567194024pictured here are the "good games" that recieved more than 500 reviews that valve promotes on their store
>>567194269>Unfair flipsThis game is on Roblox
>>567190580cool, nice textures
>>567194269literal mobileslop
>>567194269buying all 4 and sending a platinum steak to gabe
Oh man…
>>567194024>>567193936
What do I have to do?
>>567190741nta. i don't filter 4chan ads either, but i also never click on them for malware fears / token hijack / 1-click-joining a bad disc server that'll get my main banned when it's fedded / w.e. else.
>>567195015
reminder to use my generator if you need help to come up with character ideas for your gamehttps://xhal.itch.io/charactergenerator
>>567195015The graph also ignores the reality of 90% of people actively filtering entire tags and genres. (Most of which are heavily slop-related)
>>567192749>>567193085>>567193389>>567193686the myth of a "competitive free market">thrifty gamer: i will purchase your game wherever it is cheapest to do so>dev: i will sell my game cheapest on the storefront with the least feesisn't there a parasitic monopoly you forgot to ask?>steam: don't you steal from me! i'll fucking glass you cunt!
I wish I had a team
>>567195216>deliberately avoids the fact that the "500+ review" graph does not increase at all in 10 years despite the fact that steam tripled its active user count in that time
gamedev is not immuneits coming for you
>>567195216
>>567195435You're not competing with AAA titles and the throughput of these games getting released remains largely unchanged and would only shift depending on more AAA studios getting formed (which do not) and not by the user count increasing.>>567195538Exactly. The total count is unimportant.
>>567195352did you check every one of those games to claim this with such certainty? that would be like what, 160 thousand games? i'm sure you have at least seen all thse 160k games to say this, right anon?
>>567195354>valve should marker my game for free while i sidestep their cut for marketing by stopping people who've just entered the front door before they reach the register and selling them the same thing out if my backpack for cheaper>the store owner should be okay with thisanon... i...
>>567195538>gamedev getting easier and easier so more and more people try it>wtf why are there so many new games, i'm getting genocided!(￣▽￣)ゞ
>>567184739>>567185013>>567186045nogam forgot his namefaggotry
>>567195593>You're not competing with AAA titles and the throughput of these games getting released remains largely unchangedso what you're saying is that valve deliberately throttles traffic and visibility for indie games in favour of AAA titles, and you're somehow okay with this?
>>567195289>hobby: game development>check the skills and job list>game development isn't in itlmao i see what you did there
I just saw v3 ad. Why is he wasting money for a show that'll struggle to break 1.5k views and ruin everyone's reputation >>567189025Is this one real I haven't seen it
>>567195719>More users on steam than ever>More games on steam than ever>Gamers are more likely to leave reviews than in the past>Still only roughly 400 games a year reaching 1k reviews
>>567195664jews really hate it when they can't jew
>>567195737forgot? he takes it off periodically to make it look like more people are agreeing with himapparently you are still new to gogem's antics, but you'll learn
anyone scared?
>>567195664>>valve should marker my game for free while i sidestep their cut for marketing by stopping people who've just entered the front door before they reach the register and selling them the same thing out if my backpack for cheaperignoring all the nonsensical jeet rumbling in here, valve does not market games for you. you market your games yourself outside of steam on tiktok, youtube, twitter and whereever else. don't try this shit, jeet. even every fucking gamedev grifter says this.
>>567195861I don’t know.
>>567195664valve has never marketed a game it didnt ownand it's pretty shit at marketing it's own games tooit's just a storefront with some scams attached to it
What the fuck happened to this place in the few years I was gone? I've seen more whining about steam/valve/gabe the past couple of threads than I've seen in all my years between 2016-2022 AGDG.
>>567195740No, I'm saying the vast majority of games is low quality trash that people pump out and release and that the total number of games per year increasing is a complete non-issue and not a reason to doompost that it's over because the market is too competitive.
>>567195664>He thinks valve markets your gameLOL
>>567195984valve will market your game actually, but only when you hit a basic anti-shovelware threshold. And if you have big returns, they'll market your game more and more to keep the money going.
>>567196027I don't know what to tell ya. The current Steam-meta is not sustainable. Either changes happen, some alternatives become more viable, or we are headed for collapse. No cap. Some have their head deep in the sand honestly.
what would you do if some gigantic streamer played your game?
>>567196095again, did you check every one of those 160k+ games you speak of to say this so confidently?>>567196114>pay money outside of steam in advertising so valve wouldn't shadowban your game on their storegee what a great proposition.>they'll market your game more and more to keep the money goingno they won't. there's plenty of games with 500+, or 1000+ review games that get pennies once their release hype dies down.
>>567196350Assuming it was in a complete state?>WWOOOOOOO
>>567196350those Irish YouTubers who play life sim games and do whacky things in them will play my games.And I won't even have to pay them for it.And Zaric Zhakaron will play my game.
>>567195919no I'm fully aware just pointing out incase there's anons who don't get it
>>567196350I wouldn't even notice
>>567196396even the demolike the trees hate you guy probably has 300k wishlists in a few weeks just from big streamers playing the demo (even though I don't see the appeal personally)
>>567196585>>567195737>>567195919>zukjeet crawls out of the woodworks to samefag again
>>567196537like amphibiousamphibian and micky D.
>>567193456Wouldn't surprise me actually. Sub to the patreon and you get some exclusive benefits at the club.
>>567196367>no they won't.it's literally more money for them, so they do. Once you hit thresholds, they start offering you more spots, discovery queues and invites to steam events. The reason you always see successful games push out updates forever instead of the dev making new games is because Steam heavily favors momentum-based games with strong sales and word of mouth.
>>567196027>2022the dam broke and the shills are getting paid overtime to try to convince devs not to believe their lying eyesit's a war against shills
>>567192817How come nobody has tried to clone yanderesim yet to do it proper?
>>567197098Don't wanna
Zukjeet is going through his script fast. Hey zukjeet give us the line about 30% being the industry standard and then immediately turn around and justify the fact that AAA devs only pay 20% on steam again
>>567197098Because it's a retarded concept for a game and would just make me want to idea-guy an actual assassin game
>>567197098Idk
>>567197021whoops wrong article with a steam logo image
>>567197098>hitman but it's just one map nice game
>>567195593500+ or even 1000+ review games aren't exclusively AAA. In fact most of them are from indie or some sort of small studio.
>>567160172>>567162828No hate but how come all your models have stubby arms and legs. They have dwarfism proportions.>>567164004>I guess ill have to trip moving forward.no need. his schitck is pretty obvious at this point.
>>567196932>Once you hit thresholds, they start offering you more spots, discovery queues and invites to steam events. okay, so how is the "valve only promotes 400 games a year" wrong then? that's the exact same take except expanded upon>The reason you always see successful games push out updates forever instead of the dev making new games is because Steam heavily favors momentum-based games with strong sales and word of mouth.do you not see the problem with the way this works? if the games that get the most visibility are games that already released ages ago and just have infinite updates being pushed out, this erodes consumer awareness and desire for new games, effectively cannibalizing any new dev on the platform. why should you release your game on steam, if by your own admission, valve only promotes already well-established games that already make them millions in fees? that sounds like a ponzi scheme to me.
>>567194269I played cookie clicker for a little while years ago, but otherwise no idle or incremental games.Scritchy Scratchy is actually pretty fun. The main thing I noticed was that the music perfectly escalates as you go through different phases of the game. And the pacing of upgrades is such that you're never bored.So I can see the appeal now, but I still don't get how so many people bought it in such a short space of time.
>>567196690>someone points out gogem's samefagging>gogem lashes out calling them zukjeetevery time
>>567197321Yes and? The total number of these games remains flat. So once again, the number of shovelware games increasing on a year on year basis shouldn't be a reason for getting doompilled about the market.
I can’t do this can I
>>567197215the shills capped out their daily AGDG post allowance. no more paid posts means no more posts. they're off to reddit and youtube comments.
>>567196027Pretty sure most of that is just two retards arguing with each other. I try to just ignore it
>>567197547>every single person who says something i don't like is the same schizo>nooo you can't say the same about me!
>>567197098I think someone started but he also turned into a lolcow or something. The game idea is cursed because what kind of person actually wants to work on that?
>>567197763Sometimes I wonder if he should have gotten a team
>>567196027why are you back? took a brake from game dev?
>>567197478>"valve only promotes 400 games a yearno idea where this number comes from, but Valve heavily push curation on the individual users who may or may not even see the games based on their own filters.>do you not see the problem with the way this works?Yes anon, money and the real world sucks, it would be nice if we could all just make a game and instantly sell 10000000 copies.my god i hope you're just trolling and not this fucking retarded.
>>567197763making a game to prove a point is very mentally ill
>>567169881Fuck. I know ai art has been this technically impressive for a few years now but it still hurts to see how much my art gets mogged by algorithms. I really need to get back to the art grind. Anyone know the name of the artist who's style is being used?
>>567196710>micky Dhe turned into a literal tranny
>>567198217she
>>567197551>the number of shovelware games increasing on a year on year basis shouldn't be a reason for getting doompilled about the market.I agree with that but this >>567195593>You're not competing with AAA titles and the throughput of these games getting released remains largely unchanged and would only shift depending on more AAA studios getting formed (which do not) and not by the user count increasing.is just a nonsense statement because it implies that amount of yearly successes on Steam hasn't gone up because no new AAA studios are getting formed. We get new indie hits every year from new creators so that can't be the limiting factor. Either it's that quality devs are exiting the industry at about the same pace as new quality devs enter or that there's something wrong about Steam in the way that it's limiting exposure to roughly a fixed amount of new games every year. It fully makes sense to me that the amount of shovelware is growing but I'd still expect the amount of games that do well also grow even if at a lesser pace. If Steam user base keeps increasing and spending should be going up with it why aren't there more games succeeding every year? That's a bit strange to me.
I wish I had that one guy
Gogum you benchod make your game
>>567198217jesus christ I get that he looked like a twink faggot but why do that to himself
Reminder that Gogem's 10 year old game is making more money every day than yours is.
There was this guy who did a perfect PS2 Gojo model.
>>567189374>also this is the final crab if that collector guy is still aroundmake more. there can never be a shortage of crab girl art
>>567198204See >>566642783
And another one bites the dust
>>567197098This has been attempted at least 3 times and it always falls apart one way or another. The genre attracts the most unhinged people. This is the most recent attempt, we'll see how far he gets. https://youtu.be/vJaRu0JQA-c
>>567197882Ye. Wife gave birth so I had to put things on hold for a while.Can't believe googum is still here and still hasn't progressed from back then. (Mentally or with game development) How is he any different than cris at this point?
>>567198820>How is he any different than cris at this point?he's technically worse than cris because he doesn't even make games anymore.imagine being a bigger nodev than cris.
>>567198817>drug addict-looking retard who casually throws shade onto an unrelated infamous game dev zero morals, he's just chasing money
>>567155820GTA6 releasing before Bokube
>>567198324>there's something wrong about Steam in the way that it's limiting exposure to roughly a fixed amount of new games every year.it's this, but it isn't wrongthere is a limited amount of time per year that they can show games to people on the front pagesince valve loves money, they must have done the math and worked out exactly how long games should be featured before they move on to promoting something else
>>567196027the amount of devs keeps decreasing while permanent schizo pool increases doesn't help that gogem rants about the same shit in every thread for about 50-100 posts
>>567198995not sure what you expect since youtube pays more than gamedev>moralskek
Am I doomed to fail
>>567198820Among other things, Googum is way better at art than Cris.
>>567199145kek indeed, americans content creators and morals are antonyms.
the only thing a crab hates more than seeing a dev leave after gaining success is when they stick around and watch them snep around in the bucket
i still haven't seen a single good argument refuting any of gogem's takes regarding valve/steam. all i've seen is personal insults and/or incoherent seethe about it.
>>567199239What game did you make
>>567199291There's no need to refute it, I can just keep using Steam and he can keep not using Steam.
>>567198490he looked like a twink fag but a lot of women like that look. combine that with him being a fairly famous youtuber he could easily get women at like gaming conventions or something.
>>567199291email any store front and ask if they'd allow you to sell your game for cheaper elsewhere.
>>567170385>>567170078me building the purity car
>>567199302tophatvilla, vtech rampage, sprite smash, lastman, restricted rps, the slaying of sandy hook elementary, social interaction trainer, whip the vote, get a body language expert pronto and pretty sure im forgetting some but whatever>>567199446why would any self-serve storefront get a say in how you price your product?
>>567199446fairly certain itch has no problem with that and doesn't go after devs for doing that
>>567199446dude your mindset is way more cucked than you realize
>>567199019
>>567199862You have it wrong. I don't even disagree with the sentiment, i'm just stating the reality. You're like a teenager that just discovered taxes and made it your whole personality to "inform" others how blind they are to your newfound truth. It's fucking insufferable, we all know Steam isn't ideal, we all know it could be better, but bitching about it endlessly solves nothing.
>>567199836I look like this.
>>567199836why does she have udders?
>>567199446I stopped following this stuff. Have we seen real evidence yet about this not being allowed withsteam? People started making this claim with that wolfire law suit, but he only made the claim after the court threw out his original lawsuit and to my knowledge no evidence was ever provided.To my knowledge you can sell cheaper elsewhere, you just cant sell the steam keys for cheaper elsewhere, which is fair desu
>>567200037So you can milk her seethe with your gamedev progress
>>567200034>we all know Steam isn't ideal, we all know it could be betterthen why are you arguing against anti-competitive behavior that is literally the reason Steam is losing a class action lawsuit?>It's fucking insufferableyeah but you're a well-guy, the most insufferable being in existence, you'll be fine.
>>567200034I reject you and your mindset
>>567200034Green goated take.>>567200512>>567200515Red goated take.
the reality is that PC game commercialization was much worse before steamsteam being as tolerant as it is right now is a blessing
>>567200512>then why are you arguing againstI'm not, you monumental retard, learn to read.
>>567200034>noooo stop trying to argue for better conditions for yourself! don't even bring that up, you have no rights!you sound a lot like a r*ssian
>>567200034He thinks shitting up amateur game development thread every day will just one day make Gabe change his mind and give reins to gogem.Not even a public forum like reddit or anything, no he has to shit up this anonymous place with 200~ unique IPs per thread (some years ago), and bring up steam in every conversation that has nothing to do with steam.
I need things
I made things.
>>567200827he's spreading the seeds of thoughtgogem will win in the end
>>567198490Because it isnt gay if she fucks a dude in her ass as a girl.
>>567200665>I'm not, you monumental retard, learn to read.>>567199446>email any store front and ask if they'd allow you to sell your game for cheaper elsewhere.
>>567200827he already made a youtube video about this 8 years ago.besides, you can track gogem across the entire internet? you know exactly where he posts and where he doesn't?
>>567200883Yey.
>>567197382Everyone needs representation
how to fix?
>>567201372What’s wrong
>>567185572he ain't wrong, your work is quite good just rough around the edges. keep going at it if you enjoy the process
>>567201460Shutup loser
What do you guys do when creativity is at an all time low?
Is this place really for game dev because it is like 20 posts of progress and it is all fucking dogshit.
Do you ever feel happy?
>>567201642play braindead caveman riffs on my guitar
>>567086620I'm having this happen more and more often in life lately.>think of a great idea to dev and get rich>can't busy with current game>months later find someone devving it>think of another idea...>can't too slow of a dev, if I jump through all my ideas I won't ever finish anything>months pass, find a team who started development of said idea months prior to meThis is even extending to other faucets of life now but in a different way.
>>567201849That sucks
>>567201642Necessity is the mother of all invention. Limitation breeds creativity.
>>567201849>Been at this for a decade>no one has stolen any of my ideasMan, either my ideaguy skills are just that top tier, or my ideas are total ass lmao
Oh god I really am going to be at this for the rest of my life
>>567201642AI
>>567201642do something easy from the same domain I'm struggling with>codingI code some functions that'll help with deving and debugging later>3d artlow poly model some random crap, like pizza box, or scissors
>>567201849Yeah for me it involved pitch decks, stolen music, AI accusations and stalking me for a year, there's some shady people on the internet who get very mad when you quote them
Almost all of your problems arise from not having a design document. You are flying blind by the seat of your pants and its costing you years.
>>567201763>come to AMATEUR game development thread >look inside>dozens of professional gamedevs who actually made money from their games (but clearly not as much as they wanted to since they seethe eternally) >talks about taxes and bills and algorithm boosting metas and Take me back...
>>567203042I have one
>>567203042It's also the "It has to be perfect" mindset instead of setting a target and hitting itThat's the problem with making opus type deals
>>567203042Post your game
>>567203109my game is in this image
>>567203109>marmo is from risk of rain eraI wonder wtf he is up to now. New game?
>>567200883No you didn't>screenshot of someone else's game>ai video from some other ai userAll you did was combine these two things. You are so bad at making things that you can't even do like the second guy and have the AI make something for you lol! Imagine being so uncreative that you can't even fathom an idea for the AI to make for you lol, lmao even. No wonder you gave up on gamedev. You lack creativity.
>>567203214Honestly, functional comes first
>>567203109>blockhead and orc devkino era
>>567203457luddie meltie
>>567203457>newfag doesn't know about thumbnail bugkekkk
>>567203109Cant believe marmo removed Navy SEALs from his game. What a sell out
>>567203460gamers are sloppers and will eat functional if it's fun enough a lot of amateur game devs are people who've played so much games they want to try make something they haven't seen before and try new weird intricate mechanics and forget gamers will play something fun and snappy
>>567203772Subnautica 2 is NMS but with a gorillion fewer features, yet the goym-I mean gamers love it.
>>567202302All those ideas ended up with some level of success. Could be a mere 200ish reviews others in the thousands. Even saw one recently release, iirc its already over 800 reviews. It's like my idea but more barebones. In fact I was devving that game over a year ago but had to drop it due to a major development issue.
>>567203337Loli rape sim dev? Are you finally back?
>>567203879sub2 is a service problem (no other ocean crafting survival game)And please don't say Raft, because although it apes some mechanics, it's very much not in the same realm.
>>567203772This is almost never the case. Most amateur gamedevs hardly play any video games, and the ones that they do play are always in the similar genre (typically AAA movieslop). Most retards here would greatly benefit from playing a broader array of games, especially smaller indie titles.
Aight good morning /agdg/, I let PPO training run all night, I wonder if it figured out anything. Probably not I mean it still looked pretty useless when I left it last night-HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCKING FUCK IT DID ITDamn this feels like giving birth to intelligence, I can't believe my son is standing by pulling on the 26 poorly place muscles I slapped on him.Wtf this is huge I guess my idea might actually be possible.
>>567203772You can do both?
>>567204128cris
>>567204193Did Cris have an ML phase? He's really learned a lot since the last time I was here.
>>567204432whats ml
I can’t get up
Currently driving myself insane trying to figure out how I can depict adaptive elevation contours on a hex map. Latest bright idea is to include settable elevation points in the map editor at every hex center and edge midpoint, then generate line segments based on how those values map out. Pic related is scratch paper where I'm trying to figure out how everything should look in my 2d war game, aiming for very crude 80s computer graphics
>>567204128this thing obviously want to die
>>567204712Don't hand-place center+edge midpoint spaghetti unless you want editor pain; make it a scalar field and run marching triangles. Hex centers already form a triangular lattice, so store one elevation per hex, then for each junction of 3 touching hexes make a triangle from their centers, pick contour levels like 1/2/3/4, and where a level crosses two triangle edges, draw that segment. If you need more local control, add vertex samples later, but start with center heights only because it's dead simple and continuous across hexes. Quantize the segment endpoints to a few pixels and clamp the line direction to your 6 hex-ish angles so it keeps that crude 80s CGA/TRS-80 map vibe instead of looking like smooth GIS output. For gameplay, keep contours cosmetic and derive movement/LOS from the actual hex elevation integer, otherwise players will chimp out when the drawn line and the rules disagree.
>>567204147Yeah but it shouldn't be your first go at a producy
>>567204114I don't need to play cookie clicker bruhI'm good on that
>>567203109Damn. Marmo still on the same game since 2013 while Hoepoop has made several games albeit the latter got brainwashed
>>567204694Machine learning, though the papers I'm basing this on call the technique RL (reinforcement learning) and I don't remember what the difference actually was.>>567204774I can't allow that yet, it has much more to learn still.>>567204712yeah if you're going with that artstyle I agree with anon making contour lines programmatic will save you some pain, tilemaps are annoying enough when they're on squares.
>>567205194Its HOPOO stop fucking calling me a whores shit!!!!
>>567203109>>dozens of professional gamedevs who actually made money from their games (but clearly not as much as they wanted to since they seethe eternally) >>talks about taxes and bills and algorithm boosting metas andit's not our fault that the boomercunts turned the global economy into a complete disaster where an average job can't even pay for food and bills, let alone leave you with enough time and expendable income for gamedev.oh and the games market itself getting worse and games DROPPING in value doesn't add much hope either.some of you soys have your head so deep in the sand that it is now up your ass.
>>567203042My game is just an existing ps2 game with a different coat of paint
>>567204774>this thing obviously want to die>>567205306>I can't allow that yet, it has much more to learn still.Kek'd
>>567205486>an average job can't even pay for food and bills, let alone leave you with enough time and expendable income for gamedev.Skill issue. Not only I have a job just fine I'm even thinking of quitting it to go full time in gamedev. Stop shitting up my game dev place with your irrelevant issues, I don't care if your house is bombed or you're eating from the streets, that's not what I come here for.
>>567206025but what if you didn't eat breakfast
>>567206369Then I would invested time into learning a skill or trade that could get me a job to afford paying for breakfast.Get your fucking life in order before trying to make games you loser.
>>567206369Wtf are you talking about I had breakfast.
>>567206784>Then I would invested timehallo saars
>>567206369>>567206821I'm with this guy, I also had breakfast--wtf you on about?
>>567206784what if you tried to find a job but couldn't find one
>>567174409I figured it out (I fucking hope)
>>567206935What if you tried to not shit up AGDG but still did it?
>>567206369>>567206821>>567206892yea what kind of question is that? everyone has breakfeast
Redoing an old one.
>>567207098that happens every time I open the thread
>>567190741It would make more sense to google the thing first before you click any weird links.
>>567207273can you use ml on this like the other anon?
has anyone ever managed to get rid of a negative review from a "curator" who reviewed the game on a personal account?2 years ago I sent a few copies through steam curators, when the game was only 30% done and a russian guy posted a negative review in russian from his account instead of the curator accountI just sent a reply asking him to replay the game but I bet he won't care since he mass reviews games he gets for freeit doesn't count for the overall score but it bothers me that I have 100% positives from buyers and then this one, and the game doesn't even have Russian translation
>>567206025I don't care why (You) come herethis is not (You)r generalI'm the top guy here, meif you disagree, come talk to me at the gym
who owns the copyright of the reviews? I want to put them in my game
>>567207762silence gora
>>567207823That would be me.
>>567207687>2 years ago I sent a few copies through steam curatorsbig mistake, never do that. all curators are scammers from horrid third world shitholes like russia or jeetland
>trailer has reviews of any kindinstantly think less of the game and dev desu
>>567203109>amateurcope all you want, everybody's here because they want to make money. that's how we keep score of who's successful and who isn't
>>567208068>im a gaymergtfo
>>567208068yep, makes it out to be a commercial product instead of an experience. very tacky
>>567203337What's your Game?
>>567208068>joke accolades >"my mom said it's good">"laziest dev award"instant buy
>>567208257as a player it says the dev has confidence issues as a dev it says the dev doesn't know how to sell his own game
>>567205009Thanks for all that input anon, fuckin' love learning about stuff like marching triangles
I don't believe I'm going to sell that much regardless of how good the game is
>>567203042I started making design docs. Because claude works better with them
>>567208289It’s not Immersive
>>567208730Turn your trip on Boku
>>567207273hey I remember thisthe original sucked
>mfw started to work on a Godot game a month ago and already discovered 2 separate features I need that are not available and each have their own github open issue from 2020
This is a preview of what Steam will look like in the future.Gabe will do -nothing- to stop it.
>>567205835
>>567196027Look at the AI spam in this thread and that'll tell you what you need to know. Pay no attention to failed dev losers and keep grinding.
>>567209502I can't comprehend that raised arm.
>>567209502you cant make me fuck pepette
>>567209459unlike youtube
>>567209690i used the wrong style and the result just digusted me i didn't look too closely at it to be honest. you can tell this model is definitely trained for porn though because i literally just typed "pepe the frog" for that one.
>>567209502>>567210104do you gen locally? what model?
>>567209502>>567210104hnnnngmodel name NAOO
>>567199291when will you stop pretending to be multiple people to push your schizo war against steam?
>>567122513based, 2026 is the year of OPTIMISM MAXXING
>>567210798>when will a jew stop jew'ingnever
The latest UE toon shader update is wild.
>>567200827imagine if gaben in his will named nogam as the next ceopc gaming would be dead in a week
>>567210364>>567210443Anima, the style is a combination of multiple
>>567211063could you post a better example that doesn't involve your penis
i always come here to take a crap and leave
Getting this to VP8 under 4MB kind of makes it so you can't see the tool in the IDE, but can still see the maps being generated.Took the idea from this repository: https://github.com/audinowho/RogueElementsI have a MapGenerator that takes a MapContext and runs MapSteps on it. The map steps are shown one by one in the video but can be combined. The steps I have so far:init step - just makes a grid with wallsroom step - places individual roomsbsp step - uses binary split partitioning to make a mapdirectional step - caves that can be horizonal or verticaldrunkards step - uses drunkards walk to make a mapcellular automata step - uses cellular automata to make a mapterrain noise step - perlin or simplex noise to make terrain mapsdirected graph - uses directed graphs and MST's to make a dungeon, has it's own propagation that doesn't play well with the other methods (yet).I still need to implement Voronoi and a few other algorithms. If anybody has any they like and want to share I'd really like to get a lot of options into this for level generation.
>>567208153>cope all you want, everybody's here because they want to make money.It's fine if you want money eventually.But you should only post in the thread if you're still in the amateur part (i.e. you have yet to have a commercial product)The thread is good when it has a constant supply of fresh blood, not doomposting, cynical, stagnating old farts who have given up on making new or interesting games and just want to chase trends for quick bucks.
>>567211497You say that but when I, a new dev here, post any progress I get mocked.Probably because I suck but hey
>>567211497>not doomposting, cynical, stagnating old farts who have given upI mean really this is the problem with the internet in general IMO. AI and bots are secondary
>>567211323
>>567211410AHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO GODOTno idea what's happening though, is it procedural generation?
>>567211631if you are that DMC guy your attitude really really really sucksyou smack away everyone's compliments, revel in any negative comments you get, then have the audacity to complain about it alljust wild really
>>567211914I don't deserve compliments.
>>567211730Depending on the time of day I either use the Light or OLED themes because I get a lot of sun in my office. I use the Tao themes in Emacs so I am one of those psychopaths.Yes, these are all different techniques for procedurally generating different types of maps. It can be used for lots of stuff though. Voronoi can be used to make glass shattering effects, Perlin noise is good for wood-grain textures etc. Lots of possibilities with procgen.
>>567208967Same.
>>567212019did your single mother regularly beat the shit out of you or something? hope you find a way to heal my brotherno one here can do it for you
>>567208347To be honest I am kind of tired of how common the self deprecating or self satirizing type of humor is from a lot of devs. We need more people like Kojima, JBlow, and Phil Fish who take themselves too seriously. People are too afraid of coming off as pretentious these days
what is betz' endgame? Does he think he'll be the doritos pope of indie games?
>>567212294No, I did that to myself because she wouldn't.Anyways, I don't ask for compliments, I ask "What could I improve?"Animations? Yes.
>>567212318It'll happen soon
>>567211706Meh, it still has that plastic Unreal look. Epic is stuck with it forever I guess.
>>567212373>Dorito PopeHe's the dew pope now didn't you get the message?
>>567210104>>567211063
>>567212572I think that's just the temporal anti-aliasing they use. It's supposed to be used with nanite but you can just use regular anti-aliasing in the project settings.
>>567212373Anon... He already is.
>>567213237Its Epic's obsession with deferred rendering. So glad to be making my own engine so I don't have to be tethered to that ball and chain. My game will actually look how I want it to look.
give gamers what they want
>>567213564I would but my game is about men who kill.
>>567213660chudcoded flop
>>567213564I would but appealing to gamers is illegal in my country
>>567213884tough talk coming from a guy who touches his penis all day because no one else wants to touch it
>>567213884chudcoded smash hit more like
>Anxious type that always struggles to interact or engage with people because I always have this heavy sense I am being annoying and they don't want to deal with me>Push myself to ignore it and reach out to someone>15 minutes later they go offline without replyingI am going to kill myself.
>>567213497You can turn on forward rendering
>>567209446well? what features?
>>567214159Yeppp
>>567214260As if I'm not aware.
>>567214159deservedyour truth is the truth
>>567183857bro please just tell me one thingwhat the FUCKKis a Galduen.
>>567214785It stands for pooner.
Made lots of changes and improvements- Moved over to native godot lighting, runs way better- Player slowed down, and gave weapons new animations. Combat is now is more difficult- enemies path around walls, but only aggro in vision range- Extract and player storage working as intendedNext steps are to start piling on the content I think.
Thank God I took the roguelike pill.Now I can just let an algorithm handle level design for me.
>>567189025ram left's shit inthen marry right
>>567215089Based. What kind of game will this be, just pure dungeon crawling rogue type game?
>>567215161You have pre-sets
>>567183256>Are there any British men who like the time period of 1650 to 1760?No, only 1795 to 1837
>>567215469The end goal is a PvPvE multiplayer extraction game. If you've played Dark and Darker, that's the general idea, but a simple .io web game version you can play more casually.
>>567211410Looks awesome anon, this sort of specialized procedural tool is one of my favorite things to get to work in gamedev. My first idea would be some kind of spline-based tool to generate stuff like curving rivers or roads on top of the previous layers, fairly easy to implement too.
>>567216198I know a guy using splines to make spore-style creatures. Know him?
>>567211410>not an incremental game>not friendslop>no anime tiddieswhy are you doing this? what's the point?
>>567216907No, but that sounds kino, where's his stuff?
>>567216941To get better?To play?Is that not allowed? Or what?
>he took the bait
>>567216036>PvPvE multiplayer extraction gameAh neat, not what I was expecting, but I could see a simple top down version of that being fun.
of course he took the bait this is the easiest place on the internet to get (You)s people will respond to anything and everything
>>567217525>people will respond to anything and everythingNOT TRUE!
>>567216941Most of my professional career I was able to incorporate some of these concepts but never for anything fun. Always things like "cheapest route for this parcel", "quickest route for this lineman to this equipment to this disaster area", "this order filled via this route over this exchange". Felt it was time to learn a game engine and do these things in a way that brings me joy.>>567217110I will ask if he'd be open to sharing here. I'm not sure he'd like too though, I'm often hesitant myself given some of the things posted in these threads. I can understand others wanting to distance themselves despite the urge to show progress.
>>567217525>He doesn't get the referenceYikes bro.
>>567216198>My first idea would be some kind of spline-based tool to generate stuff like curving rivers or roads on top of the previous layers,I don't have this method incorporated into my map editor yet because I'm still optimizing it, but this is using WFC (wave function collapse) to do something similar. The castle is a prefab that seeds the rest of the area.
>>567215161>an algorithmyes but which one are you gonna use?
new ludd killing meme machine dropped
post that cute loli
>>567218103Whichever Claude tells me to use.
>>567165729
>>567150025make the mc a hot anime girl with jiggle physics, 2B style
>>567219123sakura...
>>567219523No, but if all goes according to plan you'll get to fight one
New raylib release let's goooooogithub.com/raysan5/raylib/releases/tag/6.0
if a wagie believes something about work/money/markets/etc you can pretty safely assume it's complete bullshit propagandized to them as a way to extract rents from their believing it. propaganda+scams is the most profitable industry a hundred years running. the reason they are such a reliable barometer of this is because they wouldn't be wagies if they were the least bit immune to propaganda.
>>567203457don't reply to the AIspammer
And now, that's running inference on the trained model. Works pretty good actually, maybe I don't need to switch to DEP-RL after all. I might need to increase the penalty for extra muscle activation, but I think that might be mostly oscillating on the passive springs components, so maybe I gotta buff the stillness reward instead. Good enough to try training another skill and then think about skill composition either way.
>>567213237>>567213497Unreal games look like shit no exceptions because of the renderer
>>567211410>Getting this to VP8 under 4MB>>posts a 1.81MB webm????
>>567220523Honestly, have you ever considered it's because of the lack of upward mobility in society?
I extended my attack system to support many more shapes and sizes
>>567221019>Mirrors Edge looks like shit
>>567220427they added more shader examples just in time when I'm learning to use them
>>567221305here's your (You)
>>567221019no, retardshit games look like shit because they have no talent behind themyou've definitely seen and or played great looking unreal games but you didn't think about it because they looked good
>>567221019I'm not very technical so forgive me but what's the difference between forward rendering in Unreal vs other engines?
>>567221454I despise Unreal for a lot of reasons but it being UGLY is not it. You're an absolute brainlet. Go on and tell everyone why Mirrors Edge looks like shit. Remember NO EXCEPTIONS.
>spend whole day on point generation and connection algorithm>nothing works how i need it>reset back to step 1 so whole day is wasted
>>567221294Nice work anon, gotta add the concentric circles going out for the aura attacks
>>567221537if you want a custom look you need to use unity or roll your ownUnreal shills are very stubborn so that's all I'll say
>>567210798>>567211039>said the hindujeet samefag
>>567222285>Unreal shills are very stubborn so that's all I'll sayI would prefer people NOT use Unreal Engine but you retards are constantly talking shit about all the wrong things about it because you have either never used it or exclusively look at games poorly made with the engine. If you're going to hate on something at least be informed about it because retards like you think Unreal is incapable when in reality the people using it are the incapable ones.tl;dr grow up
>>567222872always the exact same defense, every single timeyou see it all over the unreal subleddit like some kind of cult
>>567220806This guy is on some grind too enlightened for us to understand. I am Tarry Davis' parrot to him
Does your nightmare end?
>567220523>if a wagie believes something about work/money/markets/etc you can pretty safely assume it's complete bullshit propagandized to them as a way to extract rents from their believing it. propaganda+scams is the most profitable industry a hundred years running. the reason they are such a reliable barometer of this is because they wouldn't be wagies if they were the least bit immune to propaganda.Hard to believe this guy used to make videogames. I'm not sure what he's even doing here anymore.
>>567223032You're an actual low IQ moron. Unreal is shit to use for many reasons and I think blueprints are dog shit. You're simply incapable of independent thought and are riding whatever the current wave of what gamers think. You're likely not even working on anything and just dreaming about it while you shitpost here.
>>567211497>The thread is good when it has a constant supply of fresh blood, not doomposting, cynical, stagnating old farts who have given up on making new or interesting gameslol >>567223729
>>567223803>You're simply incapable of independent thought and are riding whatever the current wave of what gamers think.AHHH there it is!! thank you so much, was waiting for that one
>>567221271I didn't realize ffmpeg can do multiple passes
I think "just make game" bros were right. I've spent the past few months trying to develop the perfect art style and I think I might have wasted all that time desu
>>567223890>doesn't make any arguments and acts holier than thou for no reasonk
>>567221294please give the gentleman some pants, I can't have my decency accosted like this every time I check in on your progress
>>567199754You're a gamedev virgin gogem. You haven't made a game in over 10 years lmaoAnd if you ask me it's because you're literally not capable anymore. You got some kind of brain damage and have become senile and weird.
>>567224029>acts holier than thou for no reasonKEK, you flew off the handle calling me a low IQ moron incapable of independent thought because I suggested Unity is better than Unreal for a more custom lookfor your own good anon, take a break or something
>>567223987may I see? I am a systems and code guy with no artistic talent, I am not looking forward to doing my assets.
>>567224190Gabe Newell castrated him. Valve won bigly and gogem lost.
>>567224281Make your own engine for a more custom look.
>>567199123Between gogem and the other gabe/steamie seethers and the AI spammer the thread is unreadable. Quality of life instantly improves once you stop opening this thread everyday.
>>567224286ye sure
>>567224463can't disagree there, you'll have total control and AI is actually great at telling you how to get the look you want
>>567223803>I think blueprints are dog shitWhat's bad about them?
>>567203042But I have a design document...
>>567224509is this the one from the guy saying he was going to cultivate a nintendo like fanbase with his artstyle?
>>567224509I think this looks good, why do you feel like you're wasting your time? This seems like it would fit in with some of the more avant-garde games that have come out recently. Lots of neat intersections between hand-drawn and computer made.
I was going to try and reimplement something like the XMB for my games main menu, then I found a open source project that literally reverse engineered the xbox og menu in SDL2. I am straight up just going to see if I can adapt this instead (add/remove/change name of menu items etc).
>>567213564I can't, I don't know how to make anime shaders
>>567224634They're good if you're just using them for small things like hooking up a lightswitch to a light or something but people are building entire sub systems and every single gameplay element in blueprints. It's completely unreadable spaghetti node bullshit even if you know what you're doing.
>>567224796i have considered taking it in a nintendo like direction. i think that's a little bit difficult though. i think nintendo tends to standardize a lot of their visual language a lot which is tricky>>567224809avant-garde is not the goal desuI wanted to make something accessible that could get really popular
>>567224841>SDL2old but reliable
>>567224547I can't, I'm not skilled enough to model realistic humans
>>567224963>I wanted to make something accessible that could get really popularDon't take this as criticism, because I think what you have looks cool, but I can't say this would have mass appeal.For better or worse, having mass appeal means you need to take the oatmeal approach to your assets. bright, bubbly, clean, low-poly, smooth, etc. You have a lot of "texture" that looks cool but will make those people turn because they want the boxy line art.
>>567224190Didn't he release a game last year
>>567225332I wouldn't know. It's not on steam.
>>567225236well yeahmost of that stuff in the pic is not intended to be in the game. its all experiments as i saidbut I think stuff like the lower right pumpkin, the flowers, and the ground could be kept & homogenized into one style>You have a lot of "texture" that looks cool but will make those people turn because they want the boxy line art.I think texture on sprites is the next big thing but actually doing it is really hard. seems to walk a very thin line.
>>567224994what an odd thing to say
>>567225332Idk. I have seen him post a thousand times here in the past year and never once was it of a game. He literally doesn't post or talk about games anymore. He needs to be put in a retirement home and unplugged from the internet.
>>567224547shitty gameplay and internet drama?
>>567222840and here we go again
>>567225574To be fair neither does most of the thread these days
Steamies... they're everywhere...
>>567224468indeedwhenever I think this place has reached the bottom I'm proven wrong by the posters here managing to find a new low
>>567225508this image has a lot more going for it. Could really just have been the overall color scheme of the other picture throwing me off. Big fan of the teapot and what I'm guessing is a vase.
>>567223987Yeah don't do that. I already saw a couple games from here that I think looked good flop. Wasteland Bites and Nuns and Guns won with achievable art styles, sensible. Gamey. Not trying to make something beautiful. Gameplay first.
>>567225585kino gameplay thoughbeit
>>567225754but you do keep coming back so that says a lot
>>567223987nothing is a waste dude you will have learned a lot, both what to do and what not to do
>>567225850they're paid to defend steam per post so they have to keep coming here every day to earn for food
>>567223987Yes, ALWAYS start with an MVP/prototype that implements the core of your idea. Everything else is secondary.
I wish I was paid to post here... why is that a bad thing?
>>567224841oh nice, I knew about an xbox emulator called xemu, I never tried it thobeit
>>567225769i think it's a pretty fresh/new approach but the idea one guy can figure it out over a few months is insanewhich is why i should probably settle on one approach towards it and scale that out to a short project, release, then repeathopefully the rest will work itself out during development
>>567225517old stuff. reliable but old. been around the block to to speak. almost legacy really.
>>567226296how is sdl2 legacy
>>567226296Old but gold
>>567226227this looks like it would be nice with a kind of line boil effect like Ed Edd and Eddie used to have.
>>567226364nta but do you not know what the word legacy means?
>gogem still thinks everyone is a paid steam shill paid per post to battle him and his constant 24/7 bitching about steamOnly person to ever go full schizophrenic without doing drugs in his life. It's genetic. You could always tell just by looking at him he was going to fall apart after 30.
>>567226469>line boilNTA but cool, I didn't know that had a name. Thanks.
>>567226364>how is sdl2 legacyWhat a great question.>>567226426>Old but goldShe's old alright, old piece of software. been tested and tried. Golden oldie. Maintenance mode, bugfix only, they've moved on to SDL3 but we still like SDL2.
>>567226469yeah that should be cooli was thinking of having a lot of shaders going on while the game runs, just random stuff to animate it like having waves that are upscaled so they look like pixel art but fluid. that kinda stuff
>everyone says things i don't like is the same person
>>567226937it's all me, btw.
>>567214309physics bodies can't have collision shapes that are indirect children and PhysicalBone2Ds are basically broken, for some reason
>>567226937>be a retard who says the same things other retard says>I'M DIFFERENT YOU GUYSNo you're not, retard. You are the same retarded steamie seether as gogem. You're both the exact same retard.
>>567209446looking at the godot issues page is frustrating. they're more focused on adding XR features than doing anything useful.
>>567226701no idea if there are libraries out there or how you'd implement that. From what I recall that show was all hand drawn.>>567226850Dating myself, but this reminds me of some of the artists that contributed to Sesame St. in the late 80's and early 90's. If you haven't heard of them and are looking for some source material for inspiration, check out people like Vince Collins, Ishu Patel, or Lesley Keen.
>>567227240this you?
IT'S UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuSCzaqoZmM
That literally is gogem btw. His samefagging is just another expression of his senile dementia schizophrenia. He is paying a price for all those demonic "cartoons" and shitty non-games he made.
>>567223393I don't have a thousandth of the enlightenment of my prophet Terry D, but thanks. Really I'm not doing anything too spicy, just fucking around with this: https://github.com/edbeeching/godot_rl_agents
>>567227339>If you haven't heard of them and are looking for some source material for inspiration, check out people like Vince Collins, Ishu Patel, or Lesley Keen.thanksi had a lot of inspiration from childrens books and so on so it fits
>>567227359Yes all of those correct opinions which are destroying you and upsetting you, the retard who seethes about steamies everyday and makes zero games, that is me.
>>567227371>listening to some dumb fuck with a nose ring>participating in anything ran by a libshit retard with a nose ringno
By the way RETARD, you've spent literally everyday in here all day doing what? Crying about steamies and gabe, spamming AI... how many games have you made?How many will you ever make?Zero. Less than zero. You amount to nothing. And that is literallyall you will ever be.You willliterallynevermake a game.
>the jeet seethe has begun
make a new one sissy
>>567228402steamies kicked my dog
>>567227359>>567228452>get body slammed by trvkes>instantly start crying about jeetsLiterallywill neverhave nevercould neverwillnever________________ fill in the blank, you already know the answer
>>567228706come to australia, I'd kick your little steamie ass
make a game
what does it say about the posters above that they'd rather freak out over some thread drama instead of making a new thread and post some progress?
have sex
>>567229117>>567229317i can't until fatfuck gabencunt stops fucking my mom in front of me
>>567227371Big jams are tough these days with so many entries being scammed... devs just take finished games they haven't relased yet and and tweak them. Take a channel with this many viewers and you are competing with hundreds of fake entries.
maybe instead of arguing you guys should team up and make a game together
>>567229571>implying there is an argument >implying the retard who wishes they had an argument could make a gameThey cannot. Will not.Ever.make a game and they know it. And for that, you will see them post the exact same thing everyday for the next 10 years. It's your fault after all, not theirs. It's gabes fault too actually.
>>567229851I blame women. People in here need to have sex
Honestly how dare you even attempt to make games when a retard can't. You deserve to be punished.
>>567230037It's funny because it's true. That's literally how evil people think and behave. And they are unable to stop. I've seen the same couple subhumans haunting this thread for so many years lmao
>>567205486>I can't make things because boomers lol
Educational content is poison to gogem because it goes against his narrative that he's the chosen one and possesses secret knowledge that landed his first hit
>>567230695Just 15 years ago a part time job was enough to pay your bills so you could focus on gamedev
i guess this bot doesn't know about the bump limit
>>567230695It's pretty common to blame anything and everyone around you or in the past for your current self and lack of ability. These people are so incredibly worthless.
>with just $175 you can make the next MOTORSLICEWell? What's your excuse?
>>567230948I know. It's a relief though. I don't actually want everyone to be capable of doing what I do. Fuck'em.But that's the thing, they aren't willing to admit that they aren't capable. This is why they're capable of shitting up a general thread for 5 years and not make a game and justify it. They WOULD be a gamedev but boomers ruined it, steam ruined it, etc. and everyone needs to hear them cry about it. They're making a change by crying to us on 4chan about gabe and steam. That's practically as good as making a game, in fact it's better, because gamedev isn't even a noble pursuit. They actually think like this.
>>567231339boomer attitude 100%
>>567231668>having self worth and respecting yourself is a boomer attitudetop kek, keep squirming in your own self misery you toad.
>>567231668you're "talking" to an indian running a chatbot spam in this thread, don't respond to posts like that
what? you were disabled as a kid when your dirt poor dad suplexed you and broke your spine? and now social services wont give you anything because you can still breathe? man stop blaming everything on other people
>>567231814wow, sorry that happened to you. sucks that your dick don't work anymore.
>>567232180>>567232180>>567232180
>>567231775>having self worth and respecting yourself Those are jeet things (in their cope mind). Trying to succeed in life or have any success, wanting to work? That's jeet hustle culture to them. Making games to sell on steam? Absolute pajeet indian from india tier. This is how deranged the mind of a permanent failure neverdev is.
Back in my day our autistic argument about making fun of people for using godot or enginerdevs, and no one gave a shit about the unreal devs.. Except that one time when unity tried to retroactively charge you per download and all the unity devs got real salty revealing that they couldnt take the bants they had been dishing out because they are all babies. Ah good time..
