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>>567148597>Golden Week will continue until morale improves
>>567148597>>/inti/ news:You forgot to mention>A long awaited sequel to "that game" will be announced on the 22nd at Bitsummit
>golden week already turning to shit because people don't know what a week means
>>567149824>Expecting the general where people talk about the same shit for the past five years, to understand the concept of a 'week'Enjoy your golden decade. >Featuring Zonda from the Gunvolt May Zap series!
>>567150091Telling Zonda to jump on a pike
>>567150091It's because Alice is trendy right now. There's also a lot of ammo to use because Zonda is a villain and 8-4.
>>567150329That's a funny euphemism.
>>567150406Zonda is easy to troll and Zondafags take the bait, probably because she's so hated everywhere else in the English-speaking world.
>>567150406There are times when Alice isn't trendy?
>>567150620More trendy than usual because of PreCure.
Did Joule really destroy Zonda's soul? Where did that come from?
>>567150841No traits of Zonda appear in the final Mytyl, meaning that Zonda was purged. As Zonda's soul was part of Joule and GV said Joule was destroying her, stands to reason that Joule completed the destruction to make sure Zonda stayed dead. That's right Zondafags. Elpiss and Mother got happy endings while Zonda had her soul completely annihilated.
>>567150841Probably not.
>>567150841Anon being a shitposter mostly.
>>567150841Some tourist trying to stir shit up.
>>567150980Early Gunvolt was very edgy compared to MMZ and iX.
>edgier than iXlol, seriously?
>>567150841Some guy mixes his weird headcanons into stuff, or just does it to mess with people.Nothing is ever said or implied about Zonda's soul. The reason there isn't any trace of her left in Mytyl at the end is because she wasn't part of the original equation to begin with. Or Xiao just made sure to purge her since he was apparently the one handling the Mytyl/Joule fusion.Instead it was probably GV who got cursed with the giant pink shards sticking out of his back as a dragon. There's no explanation for that anywhere in designer comments or notes.
>>567149094>"that game">it's Cychronicles because they want to try and compete against a gacha
>>567151698Gunvolt stole Zonda's soul.
>>567151689Outside of Mytyl, it's not that edgy, and the edge is being committed against you. Most of iX is actually pretty wholesome. You're helping orphans for most of it. The Falcons have a messed up situation, but Copen and Lola are unhappy/angry over fighting them, showing their humanity. Death is tragic, but feels like it's for a good purpose. iX is hopeful. Even the Butterfly Effect exists to suppress adept anger at the oppression and genocide of minos, and once taken down, end up peacefully coexisting in iX2. Nobody but two characters actually dies in the good end of iX2, and the villain gets a sympathetic, even happy sendoff. GV2 is edgy all the way through, and your character is committing the edge. All the deaths are miserable and feel pointless. There's a hopeless feeling pervading everything, and the world and surviving characters feel like they are in a worse place by the end of the game.
>>567150329Zonda would misundertand "Ride the Lightning" really badly.
Communist propaganda post.
Remember true freedom comes from emancipation of the proletariat.
>>567151698>>567151819Never forget that we were denied vengeful shoulder angel Zonda.
>>567153915She's the angel and Cyan is the devil.I'm not just saying that because I want to see devil girl Cyan, but it's a big reason.
>>567153915Demon exorcised.
>>567152527>>567153684First Zonda and now this? Why do the chinks wish to take this over this general? Our only exports are racist memes and tacos.
>>567154328Racism is milquetoast and self depreciating to half the general. So there's really no export.
>>567154024Last time that happened the devil became Acura's nanny.
>>567154707It's fine, she made a semen demon in retaliation.
>>567154328The mandate of heaven lies with the people is why.
is satmelt sleep or 7 vupiupis
>>567155417sleep (dead)because i'll be out for sat/sun and can't remote hoststream titles should get updated when needed
>>567155604alrite
I wish I were playing z2 right now
An entire week melt lost. Not even Kirbo could save it.
>>567158570we have sunyay
>>567158447don't >we all
>>567154328I mean, looking at the number of mobile kuzo generals here...I think most people have been eating breadcrumbs for ages.
>>567154328>our only exports are x AND yWRONG. banana republic. zonda is el presidente, and all we do is construct statues of her. the only thing we export are zonda jpgs to /v/, in roll threads, where they are immediately rejected.
>>567158447I like when zero defeated copy x in z1 and then the resistance started to dance
>>567159150I recognize maybe four of these. I'm a fake mecha fan.
>>567159281Three. Got you beat, fag.
>>567159150>a whole game with G
>gundam x>multiple zeros>god sigmaperhaps z2 was the purest mega man of all
>>567159138But there's been far more Roll Elise and Gibril OC made here than Zonda's.
>>567159150Wait, is that the Nirvash? Alright, five.
>>567159584>Elise and Gibril OCThere is?
>>567159584Man we don't make shit.
>>567159507>cube>airman>like 3 moonstruly the meggest of them all
https://romhack.ing/database/content/entry/EbPXXUMaS7aGUIxqv2L8SQ/rockman-6-re-cyclesome kind of mm6 hack
Cial > Zonda
Zonda's blue sister, Sonda
>>567148597Luna is so precious.
>>567166356Isn't she just?
Why do they still keep teasing me bros?
>>567167542Do they? Have there been any BMZX teasers since this?
>>567167542Friday bwo. Trust the plan.We'll start blasting again.
>A long awaited sequel to "that game" will be announced on the 22ndThe wording on Inti announcements are always hillarious. Remember the long awaited revival of the beloved IP that turned out to be Kingdom's Return?
>>567168172What game could it be? It's Inti, so it'll be underwhelming. I guess Gal Guardians or iX3. Nothing actually good.
>>567169997iX is a low hanging fruit but I can't really imagine anyone waiting for yet another sequel to that, as the specific wording implies. It wasn't even supposed to have a sequel to begin with.If we can't get a proper Gunvolt conclusion as is constantly requested in comments to other Inti announcements, I guess it could only be Gal Guardians. Which mite b cool. Or the start of a new BMZ, which is probably the best outcome.One thing is for certain, Inti is in dire need of a win.
Fairy Leviathan Friday was yesterday though.
>>567170851The best, but least likely, case would be iX3 and GV4 revealed. GV4 is the "long awaited sequel," but companies say whatever. Going off of release cycle, where INTI alternates between the two universes, it'd have to be iX3. However, by reveal cycle it would be GV4. We know iX3 is actually in development, whereas with GV4, we've only had a few statements to the effect of they want to make it.iX was always seen as a stopgap series, so to be announced first after four years of nothing but re-releases wouldn't be that hype. It would also push GV4 back another year. INTI would be repeating the long gap between GV2 and GV3, which is something that they said they wanted to avoid in the future.
>>567176894If INTI makes a continuation to Gunvolt's story, I don't think they'd call it a sequel. It'd be a new start.
>>5671616092 fangames and several OC pieces since the divide.
>>567176894The new developments could just have alluded to the OCW release in september, not necessarily an entirely new game. The mere existence of more iX games goes against Inti's core principle of "No pointless sequels," and iX2 was only made because GV3 stalled and its development got fucked over from stem to stern from not only being rushed like hell, but also having to bear the burden of including all the flunk DLC collabs that were otherwise meant for GV3.I sincerely hope it's not iX3, that would ruin my entire weekend. I like Copen, I would love to play as Copen again, but only in the context of another mainline game. The iX series just doesn't excite me at all.
>>567179535Playable Blade would get my hyped. Aside from that, yeah, not a lot to get excited about with iX, and I am an optimist who thinks they'll fix the issues from iX2. Even if it is a fun game, I'll probably forget about it a few weeks after.
And what if the sequel is another Crayon Chin Chan?
>>567180403Inti golden age begins
>>567162450Classic 2 bros...
Inti should rip off the Devilman manga for their next game
>>567180382>I'll probably forget about it a few weeks after.>Where gameplay is forgotten, good writing stays; yet without good gameplay, nobody will care.Above is why the most fun games in the world are only flashes in the pan in fan communities if their writing is nonexistent or shit, and explains why nobody really discusses iX or classic Mega Man. If Mega Man is discussed, it's one of the more character driven entries like Legends or Star Force.Like how many people remember or discuss Astro Bot. Even back in 2024, where it picked up almost every Game of the Year award, it was almost instantly forgotten about a month after release because it was just a fun game, and that's all it had going on.
>>567149824>>567150091The only other general who still has a golden week OP is /atg/ and that's because in their setting golden week is the time of the year where orcs and onis get extra rowdy and violent so basically every taimanin gets it and a lot don't come back.
>>567180382I've been burned one too many times and have zero faith in Inti's ability to fix the gameplay, especally when they keep doubling down and slapping on bandaid solutions to what is a fundamentally broken character. He's like a tower of duct tape at this point. Adding a playable Blade on top of this would just be adding insult to injury, but then again, that series is just one big humiliation ritual for him anyway.
>>567181147Astroturfed isn't talked about because it only had one merit, it was the only Sony exclusive of that year that could get GOTY and don't instantly kill Dorito pope's rep with the normalfags. Also, the most talked Mega Man series are X and Zero. Zero because it's the one who kept it's story the least messy and X because it failed so hard at that that it is still a compeling piñata.
>>567181847>but then again, that series is just one big humiliation ritual for him anyway.Cope gets to be the most heroic and badass protag. People are never going to let Dogvolt the Lolikilling Planet-Ender and Sumeragi Cuck, who failed to keep any of his friends safe, live it down.
>>567148597
>>567170851Problem is INTI doesn't want that easy win.>Tactical Communication >Licensed Goblin Slayer, Gushing Over Magical Girls or Tanya The Evil game >iX3 but the story matters and Copen goes back to his pinball days>Majogami: Non directors cut. We replaced Setsuna for arc lighting >>567181147Majogami had a great story...but nobody bought it, so nobody talk about it.
>>567182439Nah, most people over here either forgave GV when he owned up to his past actions and expressed grief or saw him as a classical hero and were fully supporting him throughout (these were the ones who were bitching about GV showing regrets). GV was always in the right, but he might have been pursuing it in a very subpar way (aka killing 100 people when he could have achieved the same results with no deaths) or letting himself be manipulated by bad actors.
>>567182546Majogami had great characters. The story was pretty standard.
>>567181147It was the only thing that came out that year on the Barrierstation and Sony already had payed the shills. BTW they were supposed to shill Concord but that ship sinked before anybody could do anything.
>>567182546Those are all shit options for inti so you'd be seeing nothing but losses
>>567182018MMZ's story is less messy if you keep it isolated. The problem is that it insists on trying (and failing) to tie into a long story between the series and becomes the cause of the mess.
Why is Spark Mandrill so popular?
Shotgun ice
>>567184164
>>567184462Kinda jumping the gun there, X.
Which second game main villainess is your favorite?>Sera>Zonda>Berkana>Lola
>>567184876Anon it's okay you can keep talking about Zonda
>>567183136>these were the ones who were bitching about GV showing regretsIt's not that GV was showing regrets, it's that he did it in the most bitchy was possible and took the easy way out. In the context of the situations he were in, Gunvolt totally did the right thing. He saved a little girl from the nightmare Human Experimentation group, he stopped Proto Butterfly Effect from happening with Nova and he saved billions of ordinary humans by killing a couple of little kids. What he CAN and SHOULD regret is that it HAD to be done.What we got was total character assassination.
>>567184462There's that but it only kept it as 'an' ending not 'the' ending.
Female villains in mm/inti all tend to be creepy and weird more than scary and intimidating. All of them also seem to have crushes on one of the playable characters.
Finished KR using Wizard. Got about almost 10 hours into it. It was okay, my thoughts after playing the demo was that it was too bare-bones and I still think that after finishing it. I liked the cute and charming pixel art and it was a moderately fun cheap little game but it's simply not finished at all. It at least needs a gear system and some harder missions after the last boss or something. More classes, larger skill trees, more ways to build characters, etc. It's like they started a game and then just decided to release it when it clearly wasn't done. The town building wasn't very good either, it's too rigid with charging you to move things around and then limiting how many roads you can put down. Then since you can only view it from one angle and each asset only has two directions, it's really hard to make something that actually looks good. I just huddled all my buildings around the wizard castle which was effective but looked bad. I still hope they make DmfD2 or make a higher-effort attempt at a "choose a class" game someday. I'm probably one of the few ones here that could care less about GV and KR is moving more in the direction I want. Also it needs more loli classes.
>i only play games where I can play a loli>i want more games where I can play a loli>i want to be a loli
I want that loli in my bedroom
>>567185239>What he CAN and SHOULD regret is that it HAD to be done.That probably would have been better. It never sat right with me that GV felt gratified after killing people like Elise/Stratos or the Eden kids. It should have been a time of reflection, like Copen in iX; an ugly thing that needed to be done, not a moment of celebration. They want you to sympathize with GV, but those moments make it much harder, especially when INTI keeps pushing out short stories about how likable and actually not bad their badguys were.
>>567185792So they once again released an unfinished game for the first half of the year. I had managed to delude myself to have some hope for the Bitsummit announcement but I guess they really are unable to learn from any mistakes.
>>567186078Well you're right on the second one at least.
>>567123148>>567123634You can see in that one cutscene near the middle of GV1 that rank and file soldiers all report to Nova. He's called "Defense Unit Head" and is officially the commander of all the adepts under him. He also seems to have the sole responsibility for managing the barrier over Japan. So while there are still executives higher than him, he should be just a rank below. And obviously, he could overthrow them by force anytime he wanted, but chooses to work within the rules
>>567185239They don't do a good job covering it in the games, but GV's escapades are overly destructive. The Asimov missions all tend towards just blowing up shit for no real discernible effect but instability and death.For example, let's say GV needs to take out some Sumeragi bigwig. The exec follows a set schedule, and if he planned it right, he could sneak into the compound and kill the guy without having to pile up the bodies. Or, he could hack the systems, blackmail the exec, and turn him into an asset. But instead, GV just barges through the front door and starts blasting everyone, because he didn't even know the above was an option, blowing up some important infrastructure and harming a bunch of civvies as collateral. This also has the effect of radicalizing the enemy, forcing a fight to the death.
>>567186875Nova leads a battalion. Don't overstate his importance. The "I AM SUMERAGI" line is a meme over in Japan, as he's seen as a middle manager at best. The forces you fight in Gunvolt are a smattering from different Sumeragi agencies. They don't all belong to Nova, because Sumeragi is a neofeudalistic megacorp hellscape where different factions have different interests.
>>567187418There's literally a faction of Sumeragi trying to prevent Sumeragi from forming.
>>567186926It's a nice detail how the Gino and Monika missions are either investigating something suspicious that leads into a death trap set up by Sumeragi (Merak and Elise stages) or actually do something that you can immediately tell helps adepts that are abused by Sumeragi (Carrera and Stratos stages)and then there's the Asimov stages where he just goes "blow this shit up, it'll make Joule happy you want that right GV just trust me".
>>567187418I guess a battalion counts as a small army.
>>567187832>blow this shit up, it'll make Joule happy you want that right GV just trust meThe fact that Xiao pulled the same crap whenever GV started to get a little regretful made me instantly distrust him.
>>567186224They should've dialed up the Adam Jensen'ing of his character in Gunvolt 3, or turn him into an X type character who is wholly committed to peace and defends that stance even as he wrestles with the pressure to be a bridge between the species and the morality of having to kill his own kind to make that possible. They had every opportunity to do so, but we all know where they went with that.>especially when INTI keeps pushing out short stories about how likable and actually not bad their badguys wereIt's so strange. I realize many of these characters are beloved OCs of the staff, but the moral rationalization pushed in these short stories only really serve to retroactively invalidate the games and Gunvolt's actions in them, or so I feel.
>>567185239>ordinary humans by killing a couple of little kids.Magical Girl Genocide's plan to boost adept power and kickstart a global revolution probably would not have led to the creation of an adept pure global order, like she and GV predicted, though it would have created tons of instability. Most adepts don't actually want to kill all nonadepts.
>>567189031>X type character who is wholly committed to peace and defends that stance even as he wrestles with the pressure to be a bridge between the species and the morality of having to kill his own kind to make that possibleRemove the inferiority/abandonment complex, and Nova would be your guy.
>>567189031>but the moral rationalization pushed in these short stories only really serve to retroactively invalidate the games and Gunvolt's actions in them, or so I feel.Even within the games, GV is shown to be wrong. The shorts just show that he's even more wrong. That isn't to say that his enemies are right. They're wrong as well. But the situation is very complicated, yet GV is applying very simple logic to everything like it's MMX and his enemies are mavericks. Calling Desna irredeemably evil, for instance, was ridiculous if you consider GV's history and know anything about hers. Nova and Zonda call him out for this, but they're as wrong about GV and the world as he is about them and the world.
>>567189351The thing is that the world around Japan has fallen into complete societal collapse because of the emergence of adepts, with many countries having turned into literal "scorched hellscapes", as most data points underline. Japan is holding itself together solely because the immoral mega conglomerate Sumeragi is able to somewhat monitor and control them through Glaives, and that's still only a certain percentage of the populace. The rest of the world aren't close to being as lucky.Now if the world is doing THIS badly as is, it doesn't take a lot of brain power to imagine how bad it'd get when every other adept suddenly gets ANTHEM'd into a super state. It'd be a tickle me hellmo on earth for everyone involved.And I know you can be point to GV3 and be like "nyo, look it's all fine!" but I'd also like to just dismiss that preemptively and underline GV3 as a game that didn't even TRY to read the room and be a proper follow-up to the events that conspired in the previous entries. It's practically a soft reboot.
>>567188679GV's story is pretty much being emotionally manipulated by people into doing what they want. Desna called Joule a siren or whatever but the truth is the ones actually pulling the strings were comfortably sitting at the base telling him what the siren supposedly wanted.
>>567190302fuck adept fucking shits and fuck adept sympathizers simple as
>>567185239But X fucking loves murdering reploids in the human's name.
>people ready for bitsummit
>>567190792there's an entire fucking game about the exact opposite of that
>>567190371It's funny because I can just imagine some strong explosion adept somewhere suddenly getting Anthem'd, trying to use his powers normally to defend himself and his friends and accidentally blowing up an entire city his friends included due to not being used to the increased output.
>>567190371From Eden's backstories, they still have societies. Like Gibu went to school, and trusted the government enough to go to the police before they tried to pin her parents' murder on her. It seems like it's mostly nonadepts chimping out. You might get a random adept here and there, but you don't get roving packs of religious nuts burning villages down in adept hunts. And nation states are strong enough to carry out pogroms or wage wars, or support cities. There is enough of a society where we have active human rights groups working in the background. It's not all Mad Max. The nations which collapsed were already unstable and/or fucked.And the majority of adepts are weaksauce. They're peak humans physically, but their powers suck. GV probably killed a significant chunk of the adepts with powers that actually mean something by himself. It's really hard to parse a lot of this, because you know Sumeragi is throwing out a ton of propaganda about how they're the safest refuge on Earth, and it's not completely false either, from what outsiders like Zonda or Asimov would attest to.
>>567190302As nice as Desna is she's still part of an adept supremacist group actively working towards a world without regular humans, and in a sense that does make her irredeemable. It's not like she's trying to stand down at any point and Gunvolt refuses to show her mercy, the very first thing she says to him is that she will bring him down for the sake of Zonda and Eden's future.>Even within the games, GV is shown to be wrong. The shorts just show that he's even more wrong.What would you have him do? What is the point? What does it all lead up to?It seems the writers never took the time to ask themselves these questions. As nice as Eden seems to be in the audio drama, they all jumped on the genocide train the moment an opportunity presented itself and obstinately refused to budge from it or even question it. And yet it still tries to give them a moral license while dragging Gunvolt through the mud again.Like I genuinely don't understand the point of doing this. The writers are fucking Cthulu'esque in their intentions here.
>>567191921>>567190371Yeah, Eden's backstories kind of contradict Sumeragi's claims that the rest of the world has been turned to slag by adepts.
>>567192101>The writers are fucking Cthulu'esque in their intentions here.It's something much simpler. They're retarded.
>>567192101She does try to show Cope mercy, but it's Cope, so you know. To be fair, if GV met her in Babel, and she tried to show him mercy, he'd just take it for weakness and kill her, because:>Being weak of mind, hesitating, or showing mercy would only lead to defeat.
>>567191921>because you know Sumeragi is throwing out a ton of propagandaI think it's wrong to dismiss what little actual datapoints we do have in the story, otherwise it's all just red herrings that lead nowhere. There seems to be some genuine inconsistencies in the information we're being given, but I don't think humans started stoning their babies because the 10 year old girl got highlights in her hair and could grow flowers in a circle around herself. The game doesn't take place in the middle ages.There would have to be some genuinely awful catalysts that shaped the deeply ingrained prejudice and fear the common folk has amongst adepts.
>>567192101>And yet it still tries to give them a moral license while dragging Gunvolt through the mud again.It doesn't give them any moral license. It's more like "gee, it really sucks to have to kill them" and "GV is such a cool badass that he doesn't give a shit about sob stories or if they're even 5 year olds," which he doesn't, probably because he has his own fucked up backstory. The "man this sucks" and "GV cool guy doesn't feel girly feelings" is all that the pity baiting and redemption baiting is for.
>>567192798>I think it's wrong to dismiss what little actual datapoints we do have in the story,I am not dismissing them. Things are genuinely awful. Society has collapsed in many on the more unstable regions of the world. It's not nearly as bad as Sumeragi says it is. Sumeragi lying about the outside world comes up as far back as GV1, if I remember correctly.
>>567192798There was a huge religious revival in Gunvolt because of the resurgence of magical power bullshit. I could buy religious nuts killing anime people.
>>567192348It's funny that she tried to be chummy to the brother of the girl they kidnapped and caused the death of too. Sure, that'll totally play out. What was that stupid bitch thinking
>>567194985Babel happened before they took Mytyl to Belladen.
>>567191191Another mighty gunvolt will save us
>>567192101For Eden, people mostly take issue with his attitude. GV is nonchalant or happy when he kills them, even characters who look very young or cute.>WELL WHAT DO EXPECT HIM TO FEEL!?!Not happy. Maybe a little weirded out. Copen has been killing people for a hundred years in iX and he shows more humanity after a kill. Then their backgrounds and drama CDs throw gas onto the aboveFor Sumeragi, there are definitely things GV did wrong when fighting them, but people are less likely to defend them because they're dicks.
>>567195139Doesn't matter. She still deserved to suffer and I hope she is burning in hell with the rest of them.
>>567195678Being happy after you kill an evil enemy in combat is natural if you're a real man. You don't mourn their corpses, you spit on them, tie them to your chariot, and drag them around the walls of their cities three times.
Looking for someone with the BN Collection (Switch), I need some help with BN6 secret chips or even getting some pvp matches to farm Cross Over points.
>>567196193Even the hot ones?
>>567196404Women are temporary, glory is eternal.
>>567168172Kingdom's Return did pretty well in Japan, sold over 2500 copies on its first week on the Switch. Guess it really was a fan requested sequel after all.
>>567192798I was with you until 2 years ago when the bongs started sending thousands of their own people into the gallows for using wrong pronuns. You underestimate how sheepish people are especially in North America and Europe.
>pronunsAre demons antinuns?
>>567168172>Remember the long awaited revival of the beloved IP that turned out to be Kingdom's Return?No?
>>567196560He says this as the Gor series enters its 60th anniversary.
https://x.com/SpectralRaitei/status/2055563480347144217What the fuck were they smoking when they made this game?
>>567200348You heard of copium? This is spiteium.
>>567196560But demigoddess pussy.
>>567200348Probably some stimulant to keep them awake for days in a row considering how rushed development was.
>>567200348The bells in the Gravekeeper's theme sounds so much like Eden's motif: https://youtu.be/SH4lc-Dy79s
>>567201727iX2 has more nods to GV2 than any other game. It would have been cool to see where they would have taken it if it wasn't so rushed.
>>567187418>Nova leads a battalionGV2 showed that a battalion of adepts and a few armed forces is enough to bring a whole country to its knees.
>>567200348Rolled up Ramen flavor packs.
>>567202130>battalion of adeptsAre adepts really that big of a deal? Most of them don't even have combat applicable powers.
>>567168172It's Flamefrit 2, only swimsuit Maho can save Inti now.
>>567202012I highly doubt there is any intentional relation to GV2. Occam's razor states it's just to associate with the rest of the biblical themes that are in the game (Mother's form being a Seraphim, the Grave Pillar being a tower/library of Babel containing all information in the world, Seraphic Ruin, etc etc.)
>long awaited sequel>new developments in the iX seriesSurely it's Blade Strangers 2 with the Luminous Avenger himself as a new fighter.
>>567202295I specifically mean the powerful ones with glaives, like the ones under Nova and Zonda. You can still probably take over a city with a few combat-trained "normal" adepts.
>>567203087But instead of being completely broken he should just be burning dogshit instead, to keep up with traditions
>>567203019Also the voice effects of the villain's final forms: https://youtu.be/GRaNOUBzHBw?t=8476https://youtu.be/jBuJ3sd_KCA?t=1173Couple of other places where they parallel.
>>567200348this can be solved by going for score beyond the rank title, no?
>>567203952That voice effect is just the one they use for evil/corrupted muses.
>>567202295The septima enhancements to reflexes and physique is what allows untrained Eden teenagers to fight professionally trained militaries. Copen needs power armor to keep up with the speed and strength of high tier adepts. So yeah, adepts are a big deal.
>>567204032Yeah. Doing a normal run gets like twice as many points or more here. This is just a consequence of Grave Pillar being a very short stage and also having a very small amount of stage kudos due to breaking up combos, so the X rank requirement is very low while the time bonus score doesn't change.
>>567203952Also fake Zonda's spheres.
>>567195678GV is 14. Of course, he'd feel happy about killing them. He's a teenager. They're shits like that. He apparently slaughtered the noncombatants at Eden down to toddlers in the original draft of GV3. He's a child soldier through and through.
>>567204515yeah double checking you can get around 425k+ vs 274k, it's just a very low score threshold on this stage.
>>567203952It's cool, but there are no parallels. I'd say you're deliberately trying to seek out meaningful patterns where none exists. Lola has always had a robotic reverb to her voice. Using familiar abilities is just a nod that it is indeed a Lola and Copen we're dealing with.Attack Code Shred is so sad. It's obvious she's attempting a screen wide clear, but it feels incomplete. Almost as if a vital component is lacking.
>Acura wins>apocalypse >GV wins>Apocalypse >Pantera can't win, she's just not cool and strong enoughMeaning her plan ended up getting the whole planet killed. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Though I don't think she ended up there, but at least rejoined her friends in heaven.
>>567204928But then people tell me I should feel bad for Gunvolt, but not bad for the people he kills, who aren't all that different at the end of the day. GV could have easily turned bad, just like they could have gone good had things been slightly different.
>>567205659You're overthinking it, just get the high score and sing the jpop.
>>567205548We will never know, because they never gave us a rematch battle with her in GV3. It's probably because they consider her reverie design to be too risqué.
>>567205659GV had a choice when Asimov told him to shoot Joule or to join with him at the end of GV1. He chose to be a good guy. Nova, Zonda, and Asimov chose to be evil. That's why they don't get sympathy. Don't act like they don't have agency. They made their choices, they get to lie in the bed they made.
Asimovgold
>>567206086On the shooting Joule thing, about half of the antagonists wouldn't do it either if placed in a similar situation, or would be extremely upset by it. Many of them aren't that eager to kill, and will show mercy when they can. GV is different, because he is killing tons of dudes, so they respond in kind.
>>567205659You can feel bad for them. Most of them do deserve pity.But most of them also deserved to die for their actions.
>>567205898While Inti remains craven their games shall too underwhelm. They'll fade away under their own mediocrity trying to appeal to a consumer base that doesn't exist, as the empire falls. For no good reason.
>>567206635m8 it's not about trying to appeal to people it's about fearing getting rug pulled by platformsIf they could they'd be making a full blown Gal Gun 3 right now
>>567206597Exactly. When Gunvolt says he will give no quarter, even if asked, that is because they have earned that fate. They have killed/oppressed thousands and imperilled the world with their schemes. They must die.
Gal*Gun was a mistake.
>>567206635>5 times as many reviews as Kingdom's returnThey just need to become an eroge dev.
>>567205289actually like triple checking because I'm bored, you can get a milly+ on normal and a faster run no kill run with actual speed run tech doesn't give X there either. this applies to exactly one version of one stage. still kinda funny though
>>567206856>even if askedNo boss in the entire series has ever asked for mercy.
I Luna more popular than Sonia with men, and Sonia more popular with women? I see far more coomer art of Luna, but more cutesy art of Sonia.
>>567202319There's no saving inti.
>>567206856GV is no saint either. He's bombed and killed plenty of innocents in his heyday as well. You could argue that he's on the right side, but everyone is trying to do the right thing using flawed methods.
>>567206971Gal*Gun is one of those rare titles where the whole game is the good part of the game.
>>567207271Most you get is Merak going wa-wait in the anime IIRC, and Gunvolt still charging the Lux and cutting him in half. Need to dig it up and rewatch. It's probably not canon anyway. But in the game, nobody surrenders outside GV3.
>>567207271Yeah this is all kinda ignoring that almost every boss starts the fight and never asks to stop. They're the ones engaging Gunvolt, killing them is never his stated mission outside like, the Nova fight.
Played a few runs in CnC. Man, after Slay the Spire 2 it feels like unfinished mess. Like, if you draw cards when your draw pile is empty, you'll not get any cards. No fun or really powerful combinations of cards, no shops, no card removing (except for a couple of random event which mostly never happens) and no relics. The only meta-progression is some gacha-like bullshit where most of rewards are like "-1 cost for a card you never fucking used".
>>567207271Right, they all fought to the bitter end. When Gibril confesses her love he's completely baffled over why she's still coming at him. I'm sure Gunvolt would cautiously ease up on hostilities if any character would just throw up their hands and ask him to have mercy. Yet they insist on never backing down.
>>567207819Only bosses GV is out to kill are Nova and Zonda. Also happen to be the two he was happy to kill until GV3 retconned it.
>>567207603Imagine being a dev that makes games where you go from left to right shoothing/slashing things, then you release a silly rail shooter because why the fuck not and then people who never have never gotten an EX skill or seen a S+ rank in their lives start saying you should make porn games.
>>567208026Blame Armed Phenomena.
>>567187601No it's the "future of despair" that the Sumeragi time traveler is trying to prevent.It says a lot that that's what Inti has a character who escaped from the Gunvolt timeline call it.Also according to the alien fetus's extra lore it's implied that as of GV3 at least things being salvaged is literally impossible, or would take a power beyond the divine to pull it off.
>>567207260so basically some nerd who didn't play the stage right on some random discord server hallucinated some bullshit and now this is a problem in this general for some reason. cool.IIX2 hate is just skill issue atp.
>>567208037To be fair, GV being elated to kill those two makes him less sympathetic and the woe is me stuff ring more hollow, even if INTI didn't release JR and EP.
>>567207025>Hololive indie animal crossing has 5 times the reviews and no development and had to pay licensing feeMaybe Inti should just git gud
>>567196238This is a lesson to not fall for the "everyone is playing on switch" lie
But Joultyl is happy. :)
>>567208249>Also according to the alien fetus's extra lore it's implied that as of GV3 at least things being salvaged is literally impossible, or would take a power beyond the divine to pull it off.I wonder what screwed the world the most, because removing GV didn't fix things either, just slowed it down. Gunvolt did or didn't do something that led to shit being irreparably fucked. Eating Asimov just sped things along. According to Morb, it's fixable so long as he takes the lessons learned back with him to the past.
>>567208318Yeah more or less. This happens every at the start of literally every hard mode speed run if you don't get damaged on ypsilon 1 and press ult, it's not new knowledge unless you know nothing about the game. The devs in all likelyhood know that, since the run wasn't even crazy fast. people have 1:10s on this level he's like 40 seconds behind.
>>567208854It's simple, we kill all the adepts.
>>567208996Stars are pushing for an adept future though. All the star readers we see in the series are all in on adepts: やがて旅の先は、馬小屋で夢路をたどっていた彼女は、再び星のお告げを授けるー[エデンに参加し、能力者たちを救え]と。
>>567208854You let Asimov win.Then you let Copen win.And all is right with the world.
>>567209150Only one and she went along with the genocide route. Total adept extermination is the cure.
>>567208854After eating Asimov's remains, GV's next major fuck up was submitting to an organization that only wanted to use his maverick virus carrying electricity instead of curing his condition.Maybe Copen could actually help with that but getting him out of his revenger demon larp is a whole new challenge.
>>567209491Her predictions turned out to be true though. Serpentine is another star reader.Also, Morb's Octima's formal title in Japanese is Infinite Star Reading [Astral Order] (無限の星詠 [アストラルオーダー]), which describes his powers better.
>>567210849Do some of you faggots actually play this in Japanese?
>>567209491For crying out loud, rhe woman that loves her nonadept parents and seed nonadepts and adepts as people without distinction was not gonna join Edennif they were actually gonna kill all non-anime people.
>>567210296Watch it be something dumb on top of the above, like he needed Zonda, Nova, and Copen working together with him to fix the world.
>>567211203If Nova got over his inferiority complex, I think he'd really like post GV3 GV. GV and Zonda would be great friends if not for Eden. Copen would need a lot of work.
>>567210296>Maybe Copen could actually help with that but getting him out of his revenger demon larp is a whole new challenge.He was visibly shaken over the fact that his adored sister is part the very same group he has sworn to destroy. Before that his convictions were carved into stone, after that they're starting to show their cracks and he's faltering.In a classical narrative structure, GV2 would've been the dark middle chapter where the tone becomes noticeably bleaker and stakes are raised. Where the protagonist(s) face moral ambiguity and reaching the lowest points of their lives before leading into the final resolution.Sadly, the Gunvolt writers couldn't capitalize on that. Only the BMZ one could.
>>567211094Joined first. Genocide plan came after. You could even say she's hair-brained
>>567211965Carlos!
>>567211905That being the thing that shakes him makes sense when you remember that this whole adept thing is ultimately motivated by love for his family. We just never get to see the middle step in either timeline
>>567211905What would we think of a character like proto-Grazie, especially after GV kills her?
>>567212268I thought it was just because he found them disgusting hell spawn, like they were vermin. He looks like he wants to vomit whenever he has to be in the presence of an adept.
>>567212321I like to imagine Grazie's ancestor was one of the few Eden survivors that fled into the middle east. Which is far but at least reachable on foot from Uzbekistan. Maybe the end of Eden is what directly led to Zed's realm as those survivors consolidated power and influence in the region.
>>567208318I really do wonder what the feedback Inti got from iX2 actually was, because they moved things around like it was positive and addressed stuff that someone who actually liked iX2 would say like "you should be able to unlock enemies without a menu" and "mother 2 has too much health (via kudos wheel damage increase)" and they gave it like a million print-outs, and the JP players I see seem to mostly like it but the western players I see always dislike it
>>567213026ATEMS does have some similarities to Eden, like calling Layla their Miko. What do adepts worship, anyway?
>>567213337I mean, you from a fast paced zany action game to slowly cutting robots with pizza sword like you're Marshe from FFT and its just a whiplash.You also have unlimited healing so that just adds to the tedium.
>>567213527Normal religion? Pantera was praying to God, maybe she's some form of Christian.
>>567213337It doesn't really matter either way because they've said they don't actually listen to player feedback (which explains a lot of their actions), what was "fixed" in Connect iX wasn't player gripes but rather what Tsuda didn't like when he tried out the one GV game that had no real involvement of his from start to finish.
>>567213337From what I've seen JP views on iX2 are more or less the same as the EN side, with more opinions that the boss battles are good.
>>567213527ATEMS? Some adept variant of Islam. As for Eden, they're Christians. Most of the religions depicted are Abrahamic, considering the lore underpinning everything.
>>567212321You're assuming killing the bosses was ever in the cards after the studio-wide chimpout post GV2, it probably wasn't.
>>567213830I mean that's just a lie otherwise they would have never put Assist Mode in. That was directly because of people complaining about getting hard stuck on some stages and Mother 2 iirc
>>567213830>they've said they don't actually listen to player feedback (which explains a lot of their actions)They sometimes do but it's selective.
>>567212268Absolutely, Mytyl is the most important person in his life. He always knew what the Butterfly Effect was in iX hence his hyperfixation on chasing down any info of where it may be. She's the key if Copen is to ever change tracks on his crusade.
>>567214030Then why none of them tried to blow themselves up, huh?
>>567213719Desna also says pray to the stars and to God.
>>567214162Hey if you're going to call them liars then be my guest they said it (in the context of some BMZ interview) not me. The fact remains that all the changes for the GV3 version of iX2 Copen are suspiciously things Tsuda complained about on the stream where he went "I should've overseen this one" after being annoyed at the gameplay.
>>567214282I think they're the Arabian Nights/Rich OPEC variant. So ZED's form of edginess would be lots of migrant slavery, not suicide bombings.
>>567213719>>567214030Eden's more comparable to Judaism than Christianity since it's an exclusive group fixated on building their own country.
>>567214796>our Eden utopia!>it was promised to us 6 gazillion years ago!Yeah, that fits.
>>567214512You sure about that? Remember how Zed took the news that Shion was a boy all along.
>>567214460They make sense to complain about, it's possible that they're all things he came up with by himself with no further input because they're logical changes. I'm just saying they have directly addressed player feedback before with this game so it's not like they have their eyes closed completely or anything
>>567214796They don't fear sexyness and nobody has big noses so I don't think so.
>>567215006Yeah but only on very select things to the point of being nonsense, for example the pretty much universal complaint about Zed lacking at least trial mode/score attack access to the second set of stages was left ignored for TE even though it's probably the easiest fix ever. Same with the song level 3 Traces crap.
>>567214796Don't nonadept Christians generally hate adepts on religious grounds in Gunvolt? Just look at the stuff Copen says, for instance.
gunvolt but 1000 kudos gives you godmar
>>567214796>this bullshit again
So Eden is the rat menace.
>>567215494Copen's larp is just parroting bullshit his retarded mother kept saying, just like his ideology is just repeating what his father said, he literally has no original thought in his head it's kind of sad.
>>567215494Officially Copen's not even Christian, he just talks about God a lot because of Shinobu's fixation on angels and a goddess (which are real entities, but they only "help"/manipulate humans to feed on positive emotions).
>>567215494China's not a Christian nation and its one of the most violent anti-adept countries in GV.
>>567215389Think it makes more sense if you want to say they aren't going to compromise their vision rather than just ignoring feedback. Tuning Hard too high to the point a non-trivial amount of normies complain about it and adding an easy toggle instead of directly changing hard fits with that I think.>>567216083Copen gets to go to Heaven when he dies so idk maybe Shinobu was onto something
>>567215494Copen is as religious as a Belmont. All he needs is his holy wrath and a weapon.
>>567216957>Think it makes more sense if you want to say they aren't going to compromise their vision rather than just ignoring feedbackTrue. Inti Creates is a company where the director is god and always has the final say. And you can't deviate from what the director wants TOO much, even if it's solely beneficial, because then it would stop being the ""director's game."" And we can't have that.
>>567217334You say this but GV1 got most of its initial drafts rejected because the scenario writer went "all those ideas are lame" to the director's face. I think there's a balance to be found because some of the decisions are just inexplicably retarded for any sane person.
Want to point out that during their last decaversary, INTI announced GV2 at BitSummit as their big title. Would love for them to do GV4, but it's looking like iX3.
>>567217334Yeah that sounds right. I don't think they're gonna get rid of the wheel outright cause it's a pretty cool idea where it works like in bosses but I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Quick Razor/no flight and tied other abilities to Kudos instead like they're doing now. I'd be hype for that
>>567215494No.>b-but copeOne man.
>>567218385All three Gunvolt games were intended to be anniversary titles at some point.
>>567218385Man, if there's even a hint of Pantera this place is gonna be on fire.
>>567219563Place will be on fire if you get a hint of Elise or Gibril, heck Mytyl or Joule.
>>567219563The hint will be she died offscreen.
>>567219563What would set the general on fire more? Zonda shown or GV4 shown and no returning characters?
>>567214162I mean even in GV1 they we're trying to babywalk players with Prevasion Chain and other toggleable perks. Assist Mode is just a natural next step really.
Also going to put in my hard call out of the year that the new "thing" in iX3 is playable Kohaku. No, I don't know what she's going to do but it won't be that different from Copen
>>567220129> Zonda shown or GV4 shown and no returning characters?The latter. The prior, you'd get a lot of new art spammed.
>>567220179Kohaku with Blade's gear.
>>567220129Zonda, but it's only the male version.
>>567220179She has the power of Mother in her, allowing her to "armor up" like a boss adept.Still no septima though so she doesn't count as an adept.
Is it too much to hope for BMZX? Sunsoft made any suspicious noises lately?
>>567220460Only in the bad end.
>>567220129The former. While the latter would make the rest of the fanbase implode, the former would make this place in particular go to plaid. Regardless, we'll still have walls of text discussing Pantera's communist theory or whatever and if minos count as personal or private.
>>567220573No, but they allowed Inti to use BMZ in card incel despite not being Inti property, which at least tells us that Inti and Sunsoft are talking.I think there's equally as good a chance for a new Blaster Master collab as iX3.
BMZX would be kino. GV4 or iX3 would be cool.Gal Gun 3 would be interesting, I'd have to actually play the damn thing already. Concerning with how it'll handle the current prudish environment too.DMFD2 be a letdown.Something weird like Gunbike would be dumb.Watch it be ZXC somehow.
we already know it's going to be ix3
Flamefrit Dos
it's gonna be a new IP let's be fr
>>567220460>>567220374Unlocked Blade/Kirin sword and Mother stuff for lock-on and dashing shit would be cool and technically matching Copen's balance with wheel, sounds good to me
>>567221254iX3 could be so many things. It could be Blade Game, it could be Cope back in the main iX timeline fighting aged up Zonda, it could be iX Cope vs GV Cope, it could be Cope fighting dinosaurs or something with another new moveset that kinda sucks, it could be simultaneously GV4 with Cope ending up in the past with GV.
I bet Inti wishes they could crawl back to Capcom.
her game is next
>>567219563Still pessimistic about her chances.>>567220782The Zondisertations only come out with 8-4 shitposts.>>567221618Why not Copen vs evil GV? iX seems to have a bit of a parallel with the mainline where it shows the bad routes of different games, though you could argue GV himself was on the bad route from around GV1 onward.
>>567221121>DMFD2 be a letdown.DMFD2 is outright impossible because the IP is co-owned by Marvelous which was bought out by Tencent.The fact that DMFD has never had any collab appearances since then should already say plenty.
New muse can't be Zonda. You know why? Apart from not being a muse, even if they bullshitted a reason, it's because:->L<-ola->L<-ayla->L<-umen->Z<-onda
>>567222048>Why not Copen vs evil GVCopen has Wile E. Coyote levels of competency when fighting against azure strikers. There has to be someone there to bail him out in that case.>Kohaku a 3rd time in a row
>>567222358Well uh really it's Morpho. And Mother which technically fits with that but neither Layla or Luxia start with an M so we just have 2/4
>>567222358>Morpho>RoRo>Luxia>Pantera?????????
>>567222358One, you are comparing apples and oranges. If Zonda were a muse, she'd have a projection, and it'd have some name that starts with L. Two, you are using their English names, not Japanese names.As an aside, Zonda is very muse-like with her projections, but she can't be a muse because she already has a septima and Joule would destroy her soul if she tries to pull another GV2 plot. The only way to get her muse powers is to somehow take Joule out of the equation.>pendant is the muse septima with the Joule removed and Xiao has time travel powersINTI dropped that plot. Besides, if it did come into play, it would be an I WIN artifact for Zonda unless nerfed, and Xiao would give it to someone more forgettable pliable.
>>567221618Copen can be any where and any when right now, there isn't much limiting what he ends up doing from this ending
Imagine if Pantera was the next muse of the series.
>>567223335You think Inti can actually afford Kaori Nazuka for a role like that? It would be fortunate if they can get her at all.
Is there any reason why Lumen can't fight like Lola, Layla, and Zonda's projections can? I understand backing GV is the most effective option, but there are times when using Lumen in direct combat would have really helped Joule out.
>>567223675>Is there any reason why Lumen can't fight like Lola, Layla, and Zonda's projections can?Apparently no.
>>567223675Learned helplessness. All those dumbass spinoffs are canon to the character's abilities, and Joule has combat capabilities there. Mytyl also uses Lumen offensively. They also seem to be able to take the projection into them for combat, like Mytyl does in the secret ending or Zonda in GV2.
>>567223675The Mytyl brain jar thing sends Lumen projections out to attack, that's kinda like that isn't it?>>567223118>pendant is the muse septima with the Joule removed and Xiao has time travel powersStill one person from that ending they haven't addressed yet
>>567223675Funny that Luxia, Zonda, and Lola are so easy for being final bosses. INTI does stick to their guns when it comes to lore that muses are support, not direct fighters.
>>567223675>>567224219>>567224485Also at the end of the first game she knocks Zeno back when he tries to touch GV, so at least to a certain degree the projection is able to interact with physical things.
>>567223514>>567223335Well, the dinging would be done by the cyber dreamer or whatever thing that abbreviates to C.D. they'd call her muse projection. Still, if there is a muse backing a new guardian, 99% chance it'll be another Layla.
>>567224485She was put into the rat spank machine after not only losing Shinobu's son, but also having Shinobu's daughter turn into an amnesiac.
>>567223514They have Yui Horie voicing the elite cupid, of course they can get Kaori if they want to.
Quinn used to have a more active role in the story, but they removed all of those scenes because they wanted her to stay in the kitchen, separate from GV's world of violence. She was meant to be an island of peace for GV. They also wanted her to be more normal, less extraordinary. Do you think this was the right move?
>>567227362Yes. But we can't blame the players for missing subtlety.
>>567227362It's boring during 2 but that's the point, and I like how 3 recontextualizes how much GV cared about her in a way which wouldn't work if she was like a combatant in any real sense so I'd say it's fine. I'd say the issue is more with Inti's pen not being strong enough to write her good and compelling at the time than it being a bad idea
>>567227362I don't like average npc + exceptional individual pairings that much. It creates a lot of imbalance in relationships. I like relationships where both parties are meaningfully supporting each other.
>>567227362>separate from GV's world of violence. She was meant to be an island of peace for GV.That's the key prob. So long as she is separated from that side of GV, she can't understand GV. She can't understand his grief, and indeed, she says as much. She understands he's hurting, and they say that's enough, but is it? I know that isn't INTI's intention; they want the two of them to have strong chemistry, but the above is part of the reason why the relationship doesn't feel fulfilling. Tying in to that, the fact she doesn't participate in the plot means she doesn't have any big romantic moments. It all happens off-screen or is implied through optional conversations. Joule/Mytyl, Kirin, even fucking Gibril, have bigger romantic moments and payoffs than Quinn. Finally, somebody who just silently supports Gunvolt in everything he does from the sidelines, somebody who Gunvolt can and will hide his sins from, is not what he needs in a final girl. He needs somebody who will call out his fuck-ups and then help him clean it up.
>>567229464>GibrilHer love declaration comes out of nowhere. What are you smoking?
>>567209491>cureArcana Shadow?
>>567229464You're reading too much into what basically boiled down to Tai being unable to picture in his head GV getting over the disaster at the end of GV1 so he just went "just give her some perfect housewife" and hoped that sticked when he was told they weren't doing the masked Sumeragi GV thing after all.
>>567213527They celebrate X-mas and think Santa Claws is some red cyborg menace who hunts down naughty adept children.
>>5672302148-4She's horny from the start in the JP script. Drops a lot of double entendres in her accusations, like GV trying to peak at her maiden's secret when he's snooping around the mansion. You know, because she's a tsundere.>>567230821I am reading too much into it and giving INTI a lot of benefit they don't deserve. I know INTI intended her to be a yamato damashi style classical heroine, and the attempt fell flat. They'd have to write it really well, because it clashes a lot of the modern tropes, like all the badass sexy female antagonists running about
>>567231318I think it would've been less badly received (but not less boring) if Joule had just outright died and didn't stay for GV2 as a ghost, there's only so much [Joule feels nervous] people can take coming from the first game unless they're into NTR or something.
>>567231741>I think it would've been less bad if the whole plot of GV2 had to be rewritten
>>567231895The GV part of the GV2 plot is shit due to the writer not being convinced about it to begin with so yes that's accurate.
>>567232080How's the plot supposed to happen with no Muse for everyone to fight over?
>>567231741Only reason GV had a vendetta against Eden was because of Joule. Else, he probably would have been fighting to force them to the peace table rather than for their eradication (he probably still would have had to destroy them, but the conflict would have had a different tone). Despite his anti-adept stances in GV2 where he blames adepts for most of the problems the face, he still has a bit of his old QUILL leanings in him.
>>567232560It could've just gone back to Mytyl or stayed dormant scattered around and Eden just picks it up, it's not like they had set in stone that the septima would just vanish given Mytyl/Joule's unique situation and the fact that stuff like the AB spirits is also a thing.
>>567232610Wouldn't he end up fighting most of Eden naturally due to them causing disturbances anyway? You could have them do anything to start the end-game too. Like they have Lumen stick around for a bit but they clearly don't know what to actually do with her
>>566738670>>His best game to this day was a Pokemon fighting game>literal reheated nachoes for 5 curious Pokemon autists>game so awful and greedy, it got replaced by a chink Moba game People weren't kidding this general has profound shit taste
>>567233753That's what I said.
>>567233834He didn’t say that it was good.
>>567234008I know, it's just weird though right? Joule exists to get cucked and give GV some emotional payoff in the final stage that don't really work. Seven Slashes is almost cool until you learn how to dodge, the singing segment got removed, GVs emotional stake in the final battle is still wayyy less than Copen's. Quinn is an interesting idea with no payoff until 3 and Xiao is at this point famously a nothingburger character. It feels so weird they have to struggle so hard to fit the protagonist into his own sequel when Copen fits pretty much perfectly
>>567230647Getting rid of the shadow and black/purple soon
>>567234986His best game (TTT, T4, etc) was better than that shitpile at least
>>567235131>getting rid of what makes her look goodGrim.
>>567221838She looks so high IQ
>>567235764Erasing any and all Zonda from existence like it's meant to be.
>>567235087Because their original plan involved GV becoming a broken shell of a man after losing everything in GV1 so most of the GV2 plot was probably initially conceptualized as a Copen story which was then adjusted for dual protagonist.
>>567226017She got a raise and promotion, since they don't give a shit about Shinobu's kids.
>>567229464One of the dragons in GV3 should've been Ouka and Gunvolt's great/grandson, to really fuck with everyone
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/144539696Don't let Stopfag see this.
>>567237527A name of the second age.
>Anon looking up degenerate shit, and using someone who hasn't been in the general for ages as an excuse to post itPetition to rename /mmg/ as Mega Mind General so we no longer have to deal with this putrid fanbase. I think Mega Mindbros would have a lot to bring to the table, that, y'know, isn't ("ironic") BBC posting
>>5672365802 was probably supposed to be a Copen only plot, 3 was made with recycled Copen mechanics, Copen gets a happy ending, and people say Inti doesn't like Copen when they've really tried to make like 4 Copen games in a row by now
>>567237527I can’t look at this for 3~ hours. It better not disappoint.
>>567208026>When Gibril confesses her love he's completely baffled over why she's still coming at himI think most warriors wouldn't know what to do when an opponent goes into heat in the middle of battle.
These spikes in Zonda search interest on pixiv seem to coincide with Luluka happenings.
>>567238314Dunno all this always comes from /inti/
>>567239769More like whenever a new piece of good art/porn is released.
They'd have had a much easier time making a 2 with GV as the protagonist again if they'd stuck with the original planned ending of 1 with Asimov getting away.But it couldn't be helped since there was no telling at the time if there'd be a sequel.
Actually fuck it, isn't it insane how functionally Inti's biggest marketing move for 123 collection was the IDEA of putting Copen in 3? A Copen they didn't make yet probably sold more copies than anything, just the promise of his aura
>>567240957Reminder that the CEO did that without consulting anyone and was probably then shat on by the entire team for creating more work for them when they were probably ready to work on something else.
>>567240957ix3 will become the best selling Inti game
>>567241620Connect iX is sort of cool in concept, but it's actually just a dumb tech demo that leaves you unsatisfied at the missed potential. And it took almost a year to come out.
>>567241620Beast mode. Put the cope in the bag, this is a stick up>>567241896Yeah it has cool ideas but ultimately Copen is very incompatible with 3 so the stages don't work for him very well and he just evaporates the bosses because he does too much damage with the Cyro Flash+Wheel combo since they ironically aren't built for a true melee character
>>567241896Yeah, I understand why there's not much to it, but it's also really disappointing that it's over so fast since it's actually pretty fun.
>>567231318So we've moved onto nitpicking the English script for Gibril now?
>>567247469Wanting things to be translated properly is not nitpicking. Muh >But the localizers got the gist of it! is trannyslator talk.
>>567247469>brings up point>point gets challenged>brings up counter challengeThat's how these discussions work. /v/ loves to post this image since it feeds into their neuroticisms, but it's actually one of the mild examples of their translation work. They cut out 40% of the script of the first game. They've proven themselves to be unreliable with this series as is, so I don't know why you give them the benefit of the doubt unless you're trolling.
>>567231318>>567248126How did 8-4 butcher Elise?
>>567248126>They cut out 40% of the script of the first game.Not to defend 8-4 but Inti was actually involved in that decision since it was believed western audiences wouldn't be as interested in the full story experience.Probably a method of lowering dev costs. They even planned English voice acting at one point but had to can it.
>>567248126>Only line translated right was Gunvolt's
>>567221838Standing paizuri simulator?
>>567248254Regular Elise is just as evil and murderous as Dom Elise. She's actually the one who initiated the fight. There is no mention of experimentation either. It was implied Sumeragi took her in because she was out there murdering people before, and they noticed her powers. They also remove all the battle dialogue. That's about it. It is as bad as what they did to Zonda, and if you're an Elisefag, you should be upset:>Elise: Sumeragi kidnapped me. They must have knocked me out... And when I woke up, I was all alone... I don't understand wh-what I did to deserve any of this! ------------>Gunvolt: What--! I'd never seen anything like it. She was an Adept, but... There were two of her. Not "twins, twice the fun" two. She actually divided into two people.>Zeno: Holy jitt, did she just go amoeba on you?>Gunvolt: Sorry, can't talk. This is about to get ugly.>Zeno: What, what is going on?>[That's what I wanted to know.\>Dom Elise: Free at last. I thought I'd never get out.>The second girl turned and glared at the first.>Dom Elise: How could you lose your memory, you stupid dolt? That is so cliche.>Elise: I'm sorry...>Gunvolt: That's Sumeragi gear you're wearing.>Dom Elise: What's your point?>Elise: I said I'm sorry!>A split personality given physical form? Even Joule can't do that. Then, a more horrible question popped into my head.>Gunvolt: Why are you the only one in here? Where did the personnel go?>Dom Elise: Oh, you didn't see them on the way down? You know, the living corpses?>Zombies? Even in a world full of Adepts, it sounded crazy.>Dom Elise: Sumeragi wanted our power. The power of resurrection... So we gave it to them...all of them. I guess they should have been more specific.>Elise: Our name is Elise. And you're about to be the next to un-die.>[Elise is killed]>Gunvolt: Mission complete.
>>567249000Line got cut:Dom Elise: What's your point? This twit wouldn't do as she was told, so Sumeragi gave her an attitude adjustment.
>>567249130>>567249000Okay, that's pretty bad. They really don't want us feeling sad for any of the bad guys.
Fuck'em. Pull the gun's trigger and be done with it.
>>567249282It's not even funny bad like ghost stories.
>>567249000As an Elisefag, I'm not upset, because Papa graced me with a retranslation.
>>567249282Because westerners are retards who get angered by morally confusing situations, unlike the superior big brained Nippon.
>>567249000I don’t think I ever read the 8-4 translation of this before. Unbelievable.
>>567249695Too bad he left before the GV2 script could get the unfuck treatment which is probably never happening with Andrew in charge.
>>567250026Gunvolt is a good boy that did nothing wrong. Truly our hero in this morally black-and-white uncomplicated story.
So are we getting shitposts of 8-4 Elise now whenever somebody Eliseposts?
>>567251402Much like the English dub, I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist.
>>567251501>Easy peasy!
>>567248126>when Japs do something retarded, it's the westerners faultAh, we've moved onto the /sthg/ method of cope I see.
>>567250026They might be right. I see not-infrequent parallels between the 8-4 crowd, for lack of a better term, and those one or two shitposters that get mad about video games having lore and story and about people caring about such things.
>>567250074I became inured to the 8-4 Zonda comparisons over time, but then that atrocity reminded me again of the anger and disgust I felt all those months ago.
>>567251679An INTI employee was so buttblasted by 8-4's translation he redid the entire thing for free.
>Elise looks at the camera and says "hello I am evil I did this and I was happy about it the other me is just the septima,, the nice scientists had nothing to do with there being 3 of me in here">"do not feel bad about killing me I am bad evil woman rawr I flagged your favorite anime opening on YouTube to get it taken down because I'm an asshole"
>>567252408Teseo pls stop using Elise as a patsy, one time was already too much
>>567251402>So are we going to intentionally post shitty translations in an attempt to annoy people who like a character?Are you so desperate for conversation, that you'll intentionally agitate other posters by signalboosting a bad localization?
>>567251402No, because there's no ambiguity with Elise. We have a corrected translation.
>>567235131>>567235764Didn't happen. She was super smug, beat up the heroes, then her allies lost the overall battle, but it wasn't a big deal to her.
>>567253380Will happen
>>567253453After GalGun 3.
>>567253453She was dodging around and messing with them while they were transformed and she wasn't. They are not there yet.
With the original GV1 draft being Asimov nuking Japan, it strikes me how that's the 3rd time a Japanese IP does that that I know of.
>>567226017>rat spank machineHoy vey, that's an antisemitic machine!
Rather humorous that 8-4 Gunvolt is the world that GV thinks he's living in.
>>567253578Before. Time's ticking
>>567254687That would actually make sense, which doesn't jive with how Inti does things.
>>567236742Her last and greatest prank on Shinobu, ruining her kids lives for no discernible reason. Truly devilish
>>567220179I was recently thinking how a potential playable Kohaku would work and for whatever reason I could picture her having a dodge roll with i-frames, mobility wise she'd be closer to classic Mega Man.
>>567249000>There is no mention of experimentation either. It was implied Sumeragi took her in because she was out there murdering people before, and they noticed her powersThis is completely made up. 8-4 never implied that at all.
>>567253380>I can’t articulate why, but Luluka feels like she was made in a lab to be a fan favorite and so far it seems to be working? In terms of global visibility and real world impact (sold out toys and scalpers getting her merch, entire campaigns around her release, the need for literal items per sales restrictions on her goods), among the lineup of more than 90 Cures in its over 20 year history, she’s the most popular Precure character ever, and will probably stay that way for a very long time. >I think they knew they had something with the design and personality. Something tells me that her concept existed for years, but they waited for the right season to pull her out. In this case a season with an overall theme that is a little more abstract and less of a "Money Printer," like Detective.-anon on /a/Thoughts, gentlemen?
>>567227362Where's this all from? Your ass?
>>567256016Even the 3DS screen wasn't that crunchy. That's an obvious fake cutscene.
>>567255943There's literally no mention of experimentation, labs, or scientists in 8-4's script. Dom-Elise said that Sumeragi grabbed Elise because they were interested in her powers, and then Elise turned everyone into zombies because she's evil.
>>567255994>thoughtsInti aire fumbled this bag, ohohohoho!
>>567240957That's right, and yet faggots continue acting like no one's asking for iX3, they're making it for a reason after all.
>>567256309>the monkey's paw curls another finger
>>567256016>>567256178Found it:https://youtu.be/NURWS1OR7GY?t=40
>>567256258You can infer plenty from the dub script. The fact that she was down there in the facility, alone, and is wearing a patient gown is enough info. I played the 8-4 script blind and even I got that much. Nothing to suggest Elise 1 was killing people before being brought there, which is the opposite of resurrection.
>>567255565I don't trust Inti to make a game with an iframe button we have to use frequently but I wouldn't be surprised since Copen would be getting Arc Anchor Nexus
>>567256680Or it was a medical facility, and she was being treated for something. Or she was being tested, and they were very mild and reasonable, the type that you'd run any psychotic person with powers through. There are no lines that state that Sumeragi was responsible for creating the alternate Elises or running any other sort of brutal experiment. In fact, the script implies that that was just Elise's natural state. There was only one line that implied that Sumeragi was responsible for the state Elise was in, and it was kind of a throwaway one that is challenged later by the psychotic nature of normal Elise:>This twit wouldn't do as she was told, so Sumeragi gave her an attitude adjustment.Of course, they'd want to gain control of such an individual. She's mentally unwell and powerful. Again, nothing states that Sumeragi is directly responsible for the state Elise is in.You 8-4 defenders are all about not using inferences or context and just the stated words anyway, so why are reading deeper into the script here?
>>567256570>Ouka in stage>GV fighting Desna in BabelThat's pretty different.
>>567257371>You 8-4 defenders are all about not using inferences or context and just the stated words anyway, so why are reading deeper into the script here?Because they're shitposters who want to defend GV2's localization.
>>567257490>>Ouka in stageIt's the exact same scenario as the final script, just worded a little differently.>Quinn: Hey, um, GV?>GV: That you, Quinn? What's up?The only part of Quinn's role that was cut back was the main writer wanting to depict more romance.
>>567249000You nabbed the script from the wiki? I think they messed up the last Elise line; that might've come from Dom Elise. It's been 10 years though since I played 8-4 GV1. In any case, you and >>567257371 are right about most of the other points. Sumeragi is not implicated for Elise's mental issues or her split personalities. It's all her.
>>567255994Or they yoinked her from a no name indie game and waited 10 years to release her in hopes that said developer was no longer around.
>>567258098 I want a foursome with elise
>>567239769I did a comparison. Joule and Lumen are by far the most popular. No surprise. Real Zonda is still decently popular for a character who hasn't appeared in a game for 10 years. She gets huge spikes in her art, but has lower daily interest than girls like Kirin or Lola. So Lola or Kirin may get at a maximum 1000 view spike over the past 6 months, whereas Zonda would get close to double that, but Lola and Kirin would have on average 150-300 daily views (with Lola having many spikes into 600), whereas Zonda is around 100-200 daily views.
>>567219563We will be buried in blond-pink communist pictures for weeks.
I don't remember it getting too noisy when she showed up in Card Incel
>>567258098Yeah, but given all their earlier abuses like what they did to Joule and Stratos, it's a safe assumption that Elise is yet another labrat who's been put through something horrible.
>>567262457Chances of GV3 reveal are low. Chances of Pantera in it are lower. If the stars align, then it is cause for jubilation, or a time of despondency if you do not accept her love.>>567262574That's more like a cameo or a simple attack card. People don't care then. Like I cared more about Isola because I got to hear her sing in game.
>>567262712>I must have gotten the flower's juices on me when we fought. Apparently it was just what the doctor ordered for this psychopath.>Gunvolt: I take you're the Adept controlling the insect horde?>Stratos: Silence! Do not talk, you scrumptious thing! You will only make Stratos crave you more... Stratos is just a psychopath.
>>567262818>Chances of GV3 reveal are low/inti/bros....the last 4 years didn't happen...we're saved
>>567263003GV said he was normal before. I don't understand 8-4's script either.
>>567263019Wake up anon, ix2 recently released
>>567263019Nah. That's how you know Zondafags are thoroughly cooked.
>>5672632893 is next to 4. It was just a typo.
>>567263003Hannibal Lecter is a psychopath. Stratos is just mentally ill through no fault of his own. He'd be in a padded cell if he weren't a superpowered biohazard.
>>567263345>he makes typos>>567263362Just going off of 8-4's script.
>>567263345>mistaking III for IVngmi
Ciel absolutely anihilated Zonda, as expected.
>>567264610So now it's Joule vs Ciel, because no way Prairie is going to beat the OG. I wonder how Joule will fair against Ciel. Will it be a repeat of the other 130cm butterfly girl?
what if colonel/signas is like a char/quattro kind of deal
>>567264891Signas is Bright tho
>>567264815Ciel will slaughter Joule. She actually survives all of her games and has mountains of material, official or otherwise, for those who care about her.Anyway, why isn't Joule popular on /vg/ when she's so popular elsewhere? She seems to be many people's favorites, especially women, and they really push GV/Joule.
>>567264968
>>567264891But those already are a different personI don't know what your talking aboutBut maybe signals should say what would colonel do and how great he was and definitely say he is not colonel
>>567159507oh fuck there's an epsilon too
>>567237527Not bad. The headphones are fucking lame, though.
>>567265073The actual reason why X became playable again in X7
>>567265070No one cares about girls with oneitis except maybe Nia and Tiamo.
>>567265070I personally really liked GV/Joule. From what I’ve seen this general doesn’t really care about their room dialogues but I really liked them. I got so pissed at Gv2’s ending I refunded it and Gv3. As far as I’m concerned Gv1 is a stand alone game
>>567247735Or at least if you have to change something did what Drawn Together did and at least keep the spirit of the original.
>>567266464>I got so pissed at Gv2’s endingAn aspect of it I really don't like it's how in the end GV basically agrees with Viper and nobody is actually respecting Joule or Mytyl's own will. She's reduced to a bird trapped in a cage named amnesia.And I can't even tell if the team behind that ending was aware of the implications.
>>567265070>Anyway, why isn't Joule popular on /vg/ when she's so popular elsewhere? She seems to be many people's favorites, especially women, and they really push GV/Joule.Because we beaten all the games she was in?
>>567266643Apparently Gunvolt was supposed to “move on” from Joule as if she were a ghost haunting him but the weird thing is that she’s very much alive.
>>567266464It's mostly that most of GV's room dialogues are boring. There are a few good ones, but you have to sit through a lot of ones that really go nowhere. Copen and ZED's home dialogues are great, however. Interesting personalities and interactions, and they give a lot of insight into the setting or lore. It's not Joule talking about classes, it's Zed talking silly anime politics and metaphysics or Nori dropping GalGun hints. People probably like Eden too because they have the sort of crazy dialogue they'd want for conversations, where it's funny, but also a bit sad.
>>567266896Eden would probably be pretty boring if they were your team-mates. But they're too much of a cult for that. Nova's team would be more likely, and they would have terrible base convos. I don't know who GV would join up with. I don't think he'd go independent, because that would go against Morb's advice, unless INTI is going to pull a GV3 with GV4 and just ignore the ending. Then we're back to GV who is just killing everyone, which will piss off everyone again, including a lot of the people who were pissed off that GV3 swerved from GV2. It's not the direction change that pissed people, it was the swerve.
>>567207271>>567207651 Why don't any of the bosses surrender or stand down? Seems out of character for them from the side stories. Viper is the type to fold when beat. He was a street brawler before he joined Sumeragi. He let people surrender to him and flee, and surrendered to Nova. Merak would absolutely grovel if it meant staying alive. Carrera is a fight autist, but he's not seeking death matches. Nova does stand down in GV3, so we know it's in his character.With Eden, it's harder to say since they're a cult, but I don't think it's in character for Teseo to fight to the bitter end. Guy just wants to make memes and funny vids. Gibril has surrendered to others in the past, but has been radicalized while in Eden. Desna might stand down depending on circumstances. Zonda would if she felt it's hopeless, and it would preserve life.
>>567268582Armed Phenomena + GV killing a ton of their guys and coming at them with the intent to kill. Nobody is surrendering to GV1/2 GV. GV also finishes them off with a big special attack and doesn't accept surrender, at least in the anime.Also, on Nova and Zonda, they're never put into the particular situations that would result in a surrender to begin with, even with a merciful GV.
>>567269416Rewatched the Merak fight. He never surrendered, but he definitely did have that I'm dead/deer in the headlights reaction before the end.
>>567266754>>567266643All three little sisters died at Belladen. The Mytyl you see at the end of the game is a new entity, almost like the child of Joule and Mytyl.
you know who would be the funniest person to show up at a mega man Con
>>567270132I know about what happened to Joule. I’m talking about quinn supposedly replacing Joule>The Mytyl you see at the end of the game is a new entityThat honestly angers me more. Its one thing for your loved one to die, another to be forcibly morphed into a different person who doesn’t recognise you
>>567271691Nobody gets to be happy.
>>567271691GV's end game is still probably going to be Mytyl.
>>567265070/vg/ is for special people.
>>567185792Just wait 15 years untill we get Kingdom Return X Dragon Marked for Death
>>567264891>what if colonel/signas were completely unrelatedsir that's simply called megaman X
Uhhh hello?? Lev...
Any golden bikini Levs?
>>567271691Well that certainly failed, GV spent about less than a year in total with her vs supposedly years with Quinn yet what he immediately spawns as a sentient Image Pulse is a Lumen with some Joule memories, keeps being haunted about the whole thing when Serpentine searches his memories to use as fuel and then gets a Joule flashback when Zed elaborated on his plan for Moebius.It's almost as if the writer wasn't actually convinced about the idea.
>>567203087Inti didn't develop that.
>>567207025>They just need to become an eroge de-https://automaton-media.com/en/news/japanese-adult-game-dev-blocked-from-receiving-steam-proceeds-from-all-ages-version-of-their-game-by-domestic-bank/
>>567290336
>>567290975>conservatard governments are using payment processors to enforce social compliance that falls outside the legal frame they want to enforceOh boy I love living in the 2020s. Where's Gunvolt when you need him.
Moon
>>567265070>Why isn't Joule popular on /vg/ when she's so popular elsewhereBecause Gunvolt itself isn't popular anywhere.
Mega Man arena update. In case it goes in the OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_6UFXZY9M
>>567265070>/inti/ humbled once againRoro who? Zonda who?This is the butterfly's game. Everone else can't stop losing.
>>567295593Her prize? A better cuck chair to watch Kirin fuck Wanvolt.
>>567296230At least she gets a chair. Everyone else is thrown into a ditch
>>567295593She's gonna lose to Ciel in the end and you know it.
>>567297106Wrong. Roro got a casting couch.
How many days until INTI reveals Zonda's new game?
>>567302728Nah she got kicked into the ditch
>>567302728>implying Roro gets a couchShe gets to sit on the ground.
Inti golf sequel coming
How come Golden bikini has been getting favor now but Golden armor is not?
Four more days till BitSummit. Don't hype too much. Disappointment cuts deep.
>>567307941Surely a GV game whether mainline or iX series with good gameplay isn't overhyping, right?
>>567308358Were her boobs that big?
>>567309191She'd probably have grown up to look like top.
>>567309530
>>567306980Force the meme trend during G Gundam's anniversary day and call it hyper mode.
art we Z2 in 52
>>567307941What unfortunate truth have those two learned?
>>567309191Ask Jiibui.
>>567309191They kind of vary in official art sometimes, see here where they can somehow form a small cleavage when facing down even though from other (GV2 loli version is supposed to have the same proportions as her GV1 self but with Lumen hair and eye color).
>>567310568They're bigger than Zonda's there, at least.
>>567310568>even though from otherfrom other official art that shouldn't be possible due to how small they look.
>>567310658Zonda is inconsistent too. She can be flat as a board to curvy.
>>567310373How would he know he let her die without ever doing anything.
>>567311020Funny that it's always Copen shown beating up Zonda, almost like he was meant to be the canon character for GV2.
>>567311249It's more like they don't want to show their mascot beating up Zonda. Edgeboy is okay. Also, the way that trailer was framed, each of the protagonists were facing their own enemy, Copen-Zonda, GV-Nova, and Kirin-ZED.
>>567311024They obviously bathed together as familypilled boys and girls are bound to do in nippon.
>>567310160It better be
>>567311606Only after she became a ghost and I don't think she can take off her clothes as a ghost wallpaper timeline aside.
Inti should make a cup size comparison chart.
>>567312431Why she always is posing like she's in a music album cover.
>>567309530>>567309731>Nori screams in terror >She went from having to do olimpic gymnastics to get a single Kamizono hear to this horny idiot dropping another new one at her feet every 9 months.
>>567313676If Cope gets with an adept like Lola or Zonda, wouldn't Nori have those problems in the other direction too?
>>567314320Lola can't breed unless septima gets involved. Zonda would definitely be a problem. Copen would probably be more of a shonen dad than even most adepts, though. The only reason he might want a kid is to continue on the Kamizono legacy.
I know it's a crackship, but why do people ship Copen with Zonda? It comes up in GV fanfiction too, so I know it's not just /inti/ delusion.
Random sunday 13th melt session of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Ruin Chapter. Don't dick around if you want to get to this guy within 3 hours.https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/wmclfadb/Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from a new way of rendering text.Starting at XX:05
>>567268582Viper would never surrender to the guy who took away his Cyan-chan, and GV wanted him dead after he revealed himself to be a pervert who likes seeing her bound to machines.Merak's another case where GV was determined to kill because the opponent is such a bastard.Carrera literally says "I'm satisfied" when fatally wounded so he probably just doesn't know when to surrender.As for Eden, Teseo seems like the only one who might try to surrender or flee, but he was streaming his fight with GV and would look like a bitch if he did that.Gibril had a suicide mode button installed that she presses in phase 3.Desna was told by the stars to join Eden and that GV is a demon of chaos that needs to die so lol lmao.
>>567311249>>567311458Cope/Zonda is better anyway because it's a grudge match dating back to GV1.
>>567315348>GV is a demon of chaosshe's not wrong
>>567313676>NO NORI YOU'RE NOT A CUTE AND FUNNY DEMON YOU'RE A BORING, BIG BOOBED AND STONEFACED SERVANT EMPLOYED BY MY AUNT>ALSO JUST BECAUSE HOUDAI CHOSE AUNT MAYA DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH MY BOYFRIENDS
>>567314876/pol/ curse but this time it goes both ways. That's it.
>>567314876pic related, but it can be flipped. contrasting dispositions/personalities. more history than most GV protags/antags.
>>567315271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7WpjvdgFBE
>>567315348This line from Merak was so ironic in GV3. At least Teseo still seemed like a cool guy, even if a bit cringe and a terrorist.
>>567316318That line would have made more sense from Teseo, as he didn't kill anyone in his stage and his bio says that he doesn't really have malice towards anyone. Although, he did help with trying to crash the Sumeragi drone into Sumeragi tower.
>>567316517>he doesn't really have malice towards anyoneHe's still totally on board with what the rest of Eden wants to do, even if he spends most of his time trolling. He strikes me as someone who could change sides for the right price, though.
>>567316841I'm just repeating what his bio says. He might swap, but he actually likes Asroc, Zonda, and Gibril, even if Zonda is the only one that genuinely likes him back. It might be hard for him to go against his friends.
>>567314876Star crossed love conquers racism. Copen can even be refashioned into princely knight in shining armor within Eden's fairy tail motif. His power armor has a knightly cut to it, and he's a scion of an elite family living in a sprawling mansion.
>>567317816>princely knight in shining armorMore so in the first game, where he has a shield.
>>567316841Up until the muse plot, Eden didn't seem that bad.
>>567319436They're a terrorist group that was started to establish an adept only nation in worship of Zonda. Xiao says that they butchered the entire nonadept population of China before the events of GV1 and killed all the QUILL operatives who did not bow down and worship Zonda as a God. They were evil as fuck from the start. Even if their members all have sob stories and are children, as an organization, they are way worse than Sumeragi and commit far more evil and that's why GV shows them no mercy, killing even the noncombatant children as we know from the drafts (gnits make lice).
>>567319749>Xiao says that they butchered the entire nonadept population of China before the events of GV1 and killed all the QUILL operatives who did not bow down and worship Zonda as a God.I don't know if that's 8-4, but I'm gonna call it 8-4.Also bull-fucking-shit, there's no way that's true. The ENTIRE non-adept population of China? And it's coming from fucking Xiao?
>>567319749>Xiao saysBecause we all know how trustworthy he is, and he's totally NOT a double agent playing both QUILL and Nori at the same time.
>>567319749Xiao is a liar and manipulator. Eden bad, but Xiao would exaggerate their badness. There are points in GV2 where GV says there's got to be another way that doesn't involve so much death, and then Xiao swoops in to remind him how evil and fanatical Eden are, or starts juicing him up on how righteous he is, or remind him how they hurt Joule.
>>567266754She was a ghost since the first game. Or a proto Image Pulse. That relationship was a Dead End, as our bud Asimov would be inclined to say.
>>567320168>there's got to be another way that doesn't involve so much deathLike how? What way could possibly work against those fanatics?
>>567320168Why didn't Nori just safeguard it herself, the entire mansion is full of angels and demons. Is she stupid?
>>567320475We don't know, because no other options were ever explored. It could have been something as asinine as going to Sumeragi and having them break the mirror shards to release Joule, thus throwing Eden's entire plan in the rubbish bin.In any case, killing would be unavoidable, but maybe some ways involve less of it. Maybe some ways end it more quickly and efficiently. Wars aren't typically won by killing everyone in an enemy country, or even in their military. There are many paths to victory. You can look at the Iran vs America dustup, where America tarred Iran militarily, but Iran is fucking up America and the world because it controls the Strait. And victories come in different flavors. There are such things as a bad victory or bad peace. Everyone wants something, and you win when you can maintain control over that something. In the context of Gunvolt, victory is denying Eden the mirror shards. That might involve killing all of them, making them reconsider their goals somehow, or some outside the box thinking.
>>567320168How can Xiao be a liar and manipulator? He did literally nothing wrong. Don't be mad cus he helped GV put the real villains into the ground.>>567321297Kurona is a dummy, for now and forever. She didn't know how to do it.
>>567321849Most of it is based off the secret ending. It recontextualizes a lot of his actions.a) Xiao knows way more than he should, about Septima, Dr. K's research, Eden, everything.b) Xiao doesn't use GV's nickname in the JP script during the secret ending where he used it everywhere else. It's minor, but it hints he doesn't consider him to be a friend. 8-4 doesn't give a shit, so that subtle characterization is dropped.c) Nori is extremely suspicious of him, accusing him of being evasive and just telling her what she wants to hear rather than the truth. She implies that a lot of GV2 was Xiao's manipulations. She thinks he's plotting something more:d) This exchange:Nori:ミチルさまとシアンさんをひとつに"もどし" 電子の謡精 (サイバーディーヴァ)の力を覚醒—その上で、 活性化した第七波動(セブンス)誘因子を摘出...あなたはいったい、 何を企んでいるのですか?>To "restore" Lady Michiru and Cyan to their original unity, and awaken the power of the Cyber Diva...And then—to extract the activated Seventh Wave (Seventh) Inducer...Just what exactly are you plotting?Xiao:企むなんて人聞きは悪いなあ。 "電子の謡精 (サイバーディーヴァ)"は世界を変える大きすぎるチカラ...エデンはもちろん... ガンヴォルトにだって渡すわけにはいきません>""Plotting"—that sounds rather uncharitable. The "Cyber Diva" is a power far too immense—a force capable of changing the world...I certainly can't hand it over to Eden... nor can I entrust it to Gunvolt, either."Xiao bringing up the possibility of handing it over to Eden and then denying it comes out of the blue for a rabid Eden hater that he purports to be. He also continues to bash GV, saying the guy cannot be trusted with the pendant, despite everything GV has done for Xiao. I like a good GV bash, but I think GV would have been the best guardian for the pendant. He would have cherished it as the last piece of Joule and never used it for bad shit.Again, 8-4 messed the line up above. Instead of saying I can't hand it over, Xiao says " No plot! It's just... The Muse has so much power. Eden shouldn't have it. And neither should GV," which removes him as an agent in the pendant's fate.
>>567321849>He did literally nothingJa.
>>567324519So it's all just typical nitpicks over muh 8-4 muh Jap script? Don't you fags have any new material to work with?
>>567323346>the worst time possibleTrump is literally using the war as a distraction.
>>567324871Hey, you were the one asking why people thought he was untrustworthy.
>nitpicks!! It's just nitpicks shut up!Posts like this endanger the 5th sun.
>>567324519Nothing about the secret ending shows Xiao is doing anything bad. If anything, we should praise Xiao. He was the only person in the series to wisely recognize two things, the muse had to be sealed away (which he did since GV3 didn't address it) and that Gunvolt is a fucking lunatic. Unlike Desna who attacked him Xiao just took the soft approach and removed the pendant from him. He even did it in such a way that Gunvolt still looks upon him favorably, because why be a dick? Imagine what an utter bad end things would've been if Dragonvolt had the power of Anthem on top of everything else? Nori is just mad she lost her babysitting bucks, nothing she says matters. Xiao even did her a favor by refusing enough of the septima back into Michiru that she isn't at death's door. Doing things better than even her father did by keeping her unpowered but still functional. Praise Xiao and his benevolent nothing.
>>567325578>Imagine what an utter bad end things would've been if Dragonvolt had the power of Anthem on top of everything elseHe still does though. Worse, he has an unbeatable win-button-mode even in human form.
>>567325727We'll see if anything actually comes from this given everyone else of power implicated.
>>567324519Is GV really untrustworthy in this context? If he wanted to rule he had plenty of chances to grab power but he keeps making power vacumms and leaving.And if he means that someone with bad intentions would steal it from him it seems like if anyone knew and wanted to steal that they could anyway.
>>567324519The final line is a little more sinister in the JP script too, just because the sentence order is swapped:>Nori:あなたは、 自分の目的を何ひとつも話していない... >Xiao: すぐに判りますよ。心配しなくても大丈夫です。悪いようにはなりませんから>Nori: ......Nori: But this entire time, you haven't told me a single thing about your objective...Xiao: You'll know soon enough. No reason to worry. I promise you, nothing bad will happen.Nori: ......
>>567326235>nothing (bad) will happen.truth was in front of us all along
>>567320475>What way could possibly work against those fanatics?Give Zonda a public correction and the rest will fall in line.
>>567325578Xiao steered him into eating the AB spirits, so yeah.
>>567326070I think him having the real Anthem would've been worse.>>567326235And nothing ever happened from Xiao. The end.
>>567326373I think only Gibril responds to chains and lightning lashes.
>>567325578>Dragonvolt doesn't have the Muse's powerUhhh yeah about that, damned chink did a really bad job at the whole "GV shouldn't have this".
>>567326420Don't remember Xiao commenting on it, but with as knowledgeable as he is on Septima lore, you'd expect at least something from the twink.
>>567324519>Nori enabled and fundamentally ruined Copen>allowed Mytyl to be stolen by Eden in conjunction with Xiao's machinations>purposefully ignited Copen's fury towards defenseless Eden combatants>tore what remained of the Shinobu branch of the Kamizono family apart>all so she could give the boy she finds suspicious the pendant without any real oppositionShinobu was right about demons. She was right about everything.What a villain.
>>567326638It's either the Zonda soul he ate or remnants from the Joule fusion giving him the muse potential.
>>567326758It was all to save Mytyl's life. Shinobu would understand. She would still be incredibly pissed.
>>567326758Counterpoint: Kurona ending achievement is called best girl Kurona in DP.So she's the heroine.
>>567327051Well I guess Mytyl is real happy knowing that her life was more important than Copen's.Oh wait she doesn't remember...
>>567326903Yeah that's the problem, he missed a fragment that then grew into a whole ass Lumen again, so he did a bad job at it.
>>567326436GV3 kind of shat all over 2's lore and ending in that regard. Image Pulses do everything Muse did and more. So it never mattered what happened to Joule or Myrtle.
>>567327161>I'm so happy!And then Tsuda wonders why everyone else is angry.
>>567327502>>567272292
>>567326638>>567326903Sad that the pink crystals amounted to NOTHING.
>>567327986It is the same color and INTI are very deliberate with designs, however...
Gunvolt stuff doesn't ever amount to anything though.
>>567328263Lumen also has pink in her design.
>>567327502>And then Tsuda wonders why everyone else is angry.Was it autism?
>>567328693Because he thinks Choujin Locke is peak fiction and this sort of move is standard in between arcs because MC is immortal.
>>567328464So the spikes look closer in color to Lumen's hair antennas than Zonda's spikes.
>>567329321This one is harder, as Zonda and Lumen almost have the same shade of pink in CGs, because Zonda is the evil Lumen. So, it's ambiguous.
>>567329321I think the differences in sprite colors is from the difference in engines/art style. It doesn't really imply anything.
>>567329321In reality it was dick crystals. It's what convinced Kirin to make Gunvolt into her sex slave.Zonda being a wingwoman from oblivion to make up for her sins.
>>567328693Tsuda oversurged his Azure Striker to strike down the rest of the team for their shitty taste in OCs. Did the pose and everything too.
I wonder if there are any Megaman fags left in this general.
>>567325727It was obvious what kind of shitshow it was going to be except for retards.
>>567331318Sumeragi and Eden would've coexisted in peace if they had let their resident 4channers play pretend with each other.
>>567331470I was thinking about replaying MM11
>>567331562I caught a 3 day for posting the OG mspaint pretend comic a while ago. 4chan is a different place now...
>>567331562>>567331318
>>567331882Finally, some good fucking food.
>>567331470Of course there are.
>>567331870The what?
>>567331870Well, you know how things are these days. Everything that used to be funny is politically incorrect or whatever. Real stupid shit.
>>567332881That's not true.
>>567331470All Gunvolfags are Mega Man fans, it's just>Where gameplay is forgotten, good writing stays; yet without good gameplay, nobody will care.Characters and plot get discussed more than gameplay, and Gunvolt is an ongoing story, whereas all the story centric MM titles are done or dropped. The only series that we still get games for is classic, and it's all self-contained and light on writing.
>>567332693I'd post it, but, y'know.>I caught a 3 day for itIt was a a lovely MSpaint rendition of Anon's loving (no-homo) story with his friend cosplaying as Konata, and the wacky hijinks they got up to together.
>>567332995>Gunvolt is an ongoing storyNot it isn't. GV3 was the last game in the series. You're only getting iX now, and those are all self-contained with a very loose continuity, like Mega Man.
>>567331882
Loopvolt is real, do not let Megays (portmanteau of Mega and Gay) shake your faith.
>>567332995>Gunvolt is an ongoing storyLOL
>>567333313
>>567333313I want this twink obliterated.
Thanks all for joining the 13th Episode of SRW Z2.1 Ruin Chapter: Scrander Cross!and remember: there will always be yet another dai-guard stage
>>567333610Use your own Luxcalibur to do the job, coward
>>567333797It doesn't matter if it's a Dai-Guard or an E7 stage.They've already won
>>567333918Which of the three forms the crotch in the super robot?
god dammit, saisei really has everything
>>567333797surely we'll get ace before the last level
>>567334592We definitely can, later stages start spamming more enemies and we can rush with Ryoma>kill&move>change Getta3 and set him to kill.Musashi has Guard so he can park in the enemy front lines.
>>567333610Eden has something for everyone, don't they?
>>567314876Copen doesn't have a good selection of girls to choose from like Gunvolt does all with varied, striking and fun personalities. It's pretty much just Roro(maybe) and Kohaku, and they're both the same genki archetype that spews the same energetic hype where Copen doesn't even give much of a fuck. You can hardly even tell them apart.Zonda is the opposite extreme of Copen. We can force these two clashing powers into close proximity and maybe transform visceral hatred into passionate intimacy. if nothing else it's bound to be titillating.
>>567335863The Lola that gets with her Copen ends up having a lot of Zonda parallels in iX2, even if it's just surface level stuff like gardens, voices, attack patterns, taking over loved ones, musical motifs, genocide plots, etc.
>>567336324who's gonna tell him she still has to share with Elfie in the afterlife.
>>567336324I think the similarities between Lola and Zonda are because both are corrupted muses. A lot of the other similarities are because iX2 is meant to be post Copen route GV2.
>>567337160>Copen>who jobs to every encounter>who has to be saved by his maid>ever causing iX2
>>567337508Yes.He figured out adepts are human.So humans had to go.
>>567337508You keep on repeating this argument, but this is a Copen who killed Eden, defeated GV, probably killed Mytyl as well (would explain why Lola doesn't have her muse powers). Shit happens. From Eden's defeat, Cope could have been inspired to develop the one tech that was a silver bullet to the adept problem. Killing all those people assured that he would set off on a much darker path, much like GV. People would have laughed at GV killing off humanity before the third game too.
>>567336426>hundreds of years of waiting for master to return just to get first class seating of the plap plapsNTR runs in the kamizono family.
>>567336426How many kudos did Acura get while manhandling that support droid
>>567338063Enough so that Morbvolt, after completing GV3 by stacking his passives full of the lolis he once knew, flies by to give him a high five.
>>567337921>People would have laughed at GV killing off humanity before the third gameNo they wouldn't. He was always packing that kind of power. Copen, you have to suspend disbelief and ignore his entire track record.
>>567338675Truly, they would've become brothers in spirit if Juan and Acura had discussed their tastes in uuoh.
>>567314876It's appealing just for the WTF factor, opposites attract stuff. Tenjian and Gibril's reactions alone would be worth it. It's hard, because I like Lola too, and that relationship has a ton of backing in writing and side material unless iX does a Zonda/Copen friendship or something.
>>567337921What the other anon said, it simply stretches our suspension of disbelief too far. Gunvolt was already coined very early on as being the strongest EVAR thanks to the Azure Striker septima. Copen is powerless for a reason. If he had the means to just genobomb the entire world at any point, he wouldn't go around and shoot adepts in the back or take them on one by one. And if he somehow managed to do so, it would demand essentially impossible plot armor and violation of his own established power scale. It just doesn't make sense.
>>567338904Combine the right septima, get the right breakthroughs, have the right mentality, and he could make his own nuke to own the adepts. iX2 doesn't go into much detail how humanity was wiped out, only that it happened, Copen killed a bunch of nonadepts (Hail and Dacite talk about it) and Copen was the last man standing in the end. Now why would Copen have to kill nonadepts?>But Zonda could have...Lola had her energy balls. They killed her and the rest of Eden. Also, Copen killed humans, see the above. If Zonda were successful, humans would have been wiped out.
>>567339356What kind of girlfriend would she be towards Acura? Clingy? Sassy? Bratty? Or does she routinely swap personality types within a conversation to weird him out for fun.
>>567339939Very huggy and morose.She also gets him to stop larping and actually learn religious scripture.
>>567339702They said they killed humans, not nonadepts. They could have been talking about adepts in the blurbs.
>>567339702>humans would have been wiped outNo they wouldn't.
>>567339702>If Zonda were successful, humans would have been wiped outMaybe, possibly. She could've also sung the lifewave into completely destabilizing, somewhat akin to what is happening in GV3 and why the world is a wasteland devoid of life, and maybe that's the reason why parts of the Gravepillar looks like a huge glaive. It's Copen's attempt at fixing it.3smart5u as he is, I doubt Copen could build anything that could realistically rival the power of Octima. You're close to godhood at that point.
If you're using the argument that Copen was too weak to cause iX2, and also arguing that Zonda likely caused the situation, it's more likely that Copen killed off all humans than Zonda killed off most nonadepts and then Copen somehow beat her and her superpowered adepts.
>>567340992Just because the three octimals we've seen are a fetus that can see across dimensions and move people through time and space, a butterfly that can make thought into reality, and a chihuahua that can snap reality to nothing in an instant, doesn't mean octimals are that strong.
>>567339939Empathetic, affectionate, gentle, touchy, but weird. You know, EP. Like she'd get Copen better than he gets himself, but her mannerisms or way of showing it would be strange, especially once she started taking advice from Nori and Mytyl, which you know she'd accept without question. There'd be a tendency for her to go from serene to excited/exuberant in just a few words when the topic of love comes up. It would be especially bizarre to others, as she'd do the usual creepy unemotional routine with them.
It's interesting how the cause for the dragon fetus to show up was to counter Gunvolt which in turn was caused by Sumeragi's research mostly kickstarted by Dr. Kamizono: the Takefutsu incident and earlier on extracting the Muse from his daughter, causing all the GV1 events that lead up to GV becoming unstable and needing stopping by Moebius to begin with.In other words humanity's meddling with Septima in order to stop it ended up making things even worse long term.
>>567341605>especially once she started taking advice from Nori and Mytyllol how badly is that going considering true Zonda's lack of manipulation skills
Why did septima become a common thing in the first place?
>>567342176It's all mysterious. Something to do with Gunvolt's version of Houdai.
>>567342176Because some plain loser decided to fuck this instead of Copen's mom.
>>567342342ToT
>>567342342I would fuck Maya over Shinobu.
>>567341413I always knew chihuahuas would kill everything
>>567341605>Tenjian bitchfits>Copen discomfort over super affectionate GF>Nori bad advice to gullible Zonda>Mytyl sister-in-lawINTI isn't based enough to make it happen
>>567342176No idea. What we do know is that Houdai not fucking Shinobu and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>567342464Well congratulations you've doomed humanity.
>>567342537Considering how in iX2, they had him get with a character from a completely different video game, yeah they aren't based enough to make it happen.
>>567342886Maya is worth it.
>>567342886Humanity was never going to give that anon uuooh. I say, unleash the gundogs of war.
>>567342841Would the human race have only be slightly fucked if Houdai had taken both sisters?
>>567343010That felt like such a shitpost.
>>567343308No clue. What we do know is that rhe Maya ending leads to GV and the Sisters endings leads to GG.This does at least mean no project Gunvolt, no Asimov, no Dr Kamizono, no Cyber Diva.
>>567343010I still don't buy that at all.
>>567343825I wonder if we'll get another Gal Guardian with the sisters.
Oh no, it's the heart eyes.
>>567346382
>>567346587Inti can never be allowed to let down the fact they had such a golden character concept and they killed her off to make their Locke OC look cool.
>>567346770They did good. They did good.
Feed Joule more.
>>567347016She gets enough, it's just that the septima stunts growth.
>>567339939I'll just add my 2 cents to go with what other's have said.Zonda is playful by nature, I think she'd plop decently inbetween sassy and bratty. A confident brat doesn't just act difficult with anyone, she acts this way because she feels safe enough to push boundaries. And Zonda in particular could and would orchestrate situations through her playful defiance that would truly strip away his otherwise composed demeanor and make him drop his spaghetti. She'd bring him to life and drag the stoic out of his shell, forcing him to feel, react, and engage with the world rather than just observing it like a scientist.Then you can add on top the "only you" factor that makes her feel uniquely special because she's the only one that holds the key to cracking his emotional armor.
>>567347016But GV, Joule already has a cushy phat ass and plump thighs!
>>567342176The theory is that destiny being broken led to it somehow.If so then the supreme irony of Copen's life is that just like adepts he was only born because history didn't stay on the "correct" course.
If the choices are:>MayaOr>not causing the anime apocalypse Can you really blame Houdai?Actually it's kinda funny if he gets with both that also fixes things, so his monogamy was a bad thing.
>English translation of Pantera makes her an antichrist like figure responsible for everything, like corrupting Tenjian.>Korean translation makes her the supreme leader and strategic planner. Overall, she is saintly, aside from ideology towards nonadepts>Original Japanese is ambiguous, and only the side material confirms anything about her. Ironically, the Jap version ends up being the most realistic version of Pantera. She may be super intelligent, but she's still just a kid, so they don't have her masterminding everything and she's very impressionable.INTI just can't nail down the translations. From the Korean's wiki summary of her character, because it's useful to get multiple different perspectives when a translation is in contention:>본모습은 정중한 말투를 구사하는 존댓말 캐릭터로, 측근인 G7뿐만 아니라 능력자 하나하나를 자신의 가족처럼 진심으로 아끼는 편.[4] 동지들을 위해 몸소 일본에 잠입하여 스메라기의 정보를 빼돌리는 수고를 감행했으며, G7이 하나둘씩 쓰러지고 중심부가 돌파당하는 상황에서도 더 이상의 희생자가 나오지 않았으면 좋겠다고 걱정한다. 동지들에게 여러 가지 지원을 하거나 지령을 내릴 때 이외에는 언제나 에덴의 성지인 베라덴의 중심부에서 무녀로서 능력자들의 안녕과 구제를 기원하는 기도를 올리고 있다.>이렇듯 사리사욕 하나 없는 사상가로서의 카리스마 덕분에 그녀에 대한 구성원들의 충성심은 그야말로 상상을 초월한다. 후반부에 G7의 멤버가 한 명만 남은 상태에서 베라덴이 건볼트와 아큐라에게 돌파당했음에도 불구하고 모든 병사들이 최후까지 결사 항전을 벌이다 끝내 궤멸되었을 정도. 그녀가 칠보검의 모습으로 입버릇처럼 말하던 '사랑'의 본질도 바로 이처럼 능력자들을 위한 자애를 의미한다.>어린 나이에도 불구하고 한 조직의 수장으로서는 결점을 찾기 힘든 개념인이란 사실은 분명하지만, 문제는 역시 그놈의 극단적인 사상. 에덴 전체에 걸쳐 뿌리내린 강령인 "세븐스 능력자야말로 이 시대의 진정한 주인이며 하등한 구인류는 모두 없어져야 한다."는 사상을 확립해 퍼뜨린 장본인이 바로 그녀이며, 타협이란 선택지 자체를 배제한 채 무능력자를 아예 능력자와 생존권을 걸고 다툴 수밖에 없는 다른 종의 생물로 보고 그들을 몰아내기 위해 수단과 방법을 가지지 않는 온갖 잔악무도한 테러 행위를 지시하고 있다. 한편으로는 딱히 무능력자에게 손을 대지 않는 페더의 뜻에도 공감은 하되, 그들의 방식으로는 극소수의 능력자만 구할 수 있다고 평가하고 있다.[5]>여담으로 판테라에게 매우 우호적인 텐지안조차도 판테라의 암드 페노메논을 보고는 못된 장난이라면서 한숨을 쉰다(...). 그럼에도 불구하고 판테라 본인은 정체가 밝혀진 이후에도 보검으로 변신할 때는 범성애자 노릇을 계속한다
>>567348545In her true form, she is a character who speaks with a polite and courteous demeanor; she genuinely cherishes every single adept—not merely her close-knit G7 subordinates—as if they were her own family. She went so far as to personally infiltrate Japan to pilfer intelligence on Sumeragi for the sake of her comrades, and even as the G7 members fell one by one and their central stronghold was breached, her primary concern remained the hope that no further sacrifices would be made. Aside from providing various forms of support or issuing directives to her comrades, she spends her time within the heart of Belladen—Eden's sacred sanctuary—serving as a shrine maiden and offering prayers for the safety and salvation of all adepts.Thanks to the charisma she exudes as a visionary utterly devoid of personal self-interest, the loyalty her subordinates harbor toward her is truly beyond imagination. This devotion was such that in the game's latter stages—even after the G7 had been whittled down to a single surviving member and Belladen had been breached by Gunvolt and Copen—every last soldier continued to wage a desperate, last-ditch resistance until they were ultimately annihilated. The very essence of the "love" she so frequently spoke of while in her guise as the Seven-Colored Sword refers precisely to this profound benevolence she holds for her fellow adepts.
>>567348753Although it is undeniable that—despite her youth—she is an exceptionally capable and sensible leader, virtually flawless in her role as the head of an organization, the fundamental problem lies, inevitably, in her extreme ideology. She is the very individual who established and propagated the core tenet that has taken root throughout all of Eden: "Seventh adepts are the true masters of this era, and the inferior 'Old Humanity' must be completely eradicated." Dismissing the very notion of compromise, she views non-adepts as an entirely distinct species—one locked in an existential struggle for survival against adepts—and consequently issues orders for a litany of heinous and ruthless terrorist acts, stopping at nothing to drive them out of existence. On one hand, he sympathizes with Feather’s stance—specifically their policy of generally refraining from harming nonadepts—yet he assesses that their methods are capable of saving only a minuscule fraction of adepts.As an aside, even Tenjian—who is otherwise highly favorably disposed toward Panthera—lets out a sigh upon witnessing Panthera’s “Armed Phenomenon,” dismissing it as nothing more than a mischievous prank. Nevertheless, even after her true identity has been exposed, Panthera herself continues to play the role of a pansexual seductress whenever she transforms into her true form: a sacred sword.
>>567348387>the morale of the story is that harems are good and prevents the animepocalypse>if GV was just a bigger chad and dicked all the women, no one would've turned into dragonsIt's weird that it happened twice. And technically within the same game universe too.
>>567348545Only the shitposters at this point "believe" the 8-4 characterization. We have two foreign scripts, the Japanese and Korean wikis, side material, Japanese fan responses and interpretations, 8-4's treatment of GV1 characters like Elise and Stratos, even dialogue snippets in-game that any anime fan should be able to parse to tell you that 8-4 was completely off their rocker.
>>567348880More than that. The GG2 protagonist is strongly hunted at to have gone the harem route as well, but it includes Risu as well. I guess you have to lean into anime tropes like harems if you want to live in an anime world or at least a world transitioning into an anime one.
>>567349887>That pool
Why is Eden so popular? Probably pic related. People's first impressions are always "man, they're all so hot/cute" and that immediately forms a positive connection. Aside from the eyes, they also have "friendlier" design language than ATEMS/Dragons or Sumeragi as well.
>>567350730Sucks, because once you look past his character flaws, my man Nova has a lot of nuance to him, but will never have the popularity he deserves unless he becomes GV's X counterpart.
>Stay away from my sister, Gunvolt!>>567351640What no new games for 4 years does to a general. Though that post seems to be saying people only like those characters cause they're hot, which is a common enough complaint.
>>567352147Kingdom Returns and Star Force Collection just released a month ago. You could talk about that. iX1+2 is releasing soon as well. Talk about fucking Majogami. That never gets discussed. It's always reheated Gunvolt topics, especially from fucking GV2, with maybe some GV3 and GV4 fanfiction on the side. The other general is unironically better just because they're not stuck in this loop.
>>567351640Lmao
Before the year is done I will be able to draw Joule plaps. And I'll CC every drawing to Inti's contact email until they make it come true.
>>567352291Just waiting for INTI to shit the bed again this year.
>>567352291>play all of inti's bad library just to break the monotony please!!!No. We're in hell here.
I think it is time for the Cialmelt.
>>567352926I told you TCG 2 is still not disassembled
>>567352291Sounds like you're just pissed that the schizos aren't interested in your games. You lurkers don't have the creativity or autistic drive to come up with your own topics, you just complain about the discussion when it's not good, or passively engage when it is. Maybe that's why the non-GV discussion you want dies out so quick, because you guys aren't responding, you're just reading.
>>567352291That should clue you in on the quality of Inti's recent output more than anything.
It's Elise, but she's drawn with a mouse.
>>567352291>Talk about fucking Majogami. That never gets discussed. Good.
>>567353492Elise doesn't like mice. I like this, though.
>>567352291I like Majogami a lot, but I can never seem to finish it. It's sorta connected with Silksong in my brain for god knows what reason, which isn't a fair comparison at all. There's not enough to talk about with Kingdom Returns. I haven't played the SF collection yet.
What are your feelings towards Lumine? Was he a good villain?
>>567354301I kinda liked him as a kid, but re-reading his dialogue more recently in the X8 demake it all sounded really stupid. Good boss fights, though.
>>567354301Bad replacement for Sigma. Pretty cute though, ngl.
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>>567354301I don't get the luciferian symbolism that ammounts to nothing.
>>567354301no, extremely stupid, X8's whole plot is pretentious stupid, lumine being the final boss instead of sigma was done purely for marketing, the cliffhanger is stupid, the story isn't even internally coherent like the game starts with X seeing lumine survive an elevator crash then you go off to a mission on galapagos island where Vile is kidnapping lumine it's so fucking dumb this game is a goddamn mess
>>567355195I thought /mmg/ didn't care about story.
>>567355195I think the intro is separate from the opening stage.
>>567355573I know, it's more a complaint about the composition of the game than the story strictly but still
>>567355639That's fair.
>>567354301Only appeal is as a trap.
>>567350730I love universal the love of Gibril is.Like, every version she goes "I hate non adepts, I killed people, I like doing it, those zombies were innocent people I kidnapped and murdered" and everyone's reaction is: *plap plap plap plap* "get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant!".It's just too funny.
>>567351640There's also cunny and race wars.
>>567354301He didn't really do anything. He was "kidnapped" the whole game but yeah, I'm glad that it's the last time Sigma was ever coming back.
>>567357320Because that would fix her.
>>567357320Reminder that she was one of the adepts who became radicalized after she joined Eden and she is one of the most politically motivated members of the G7.
>>567357320I think she says they aren't innocent because they are all responsible for oppressing adepts. She's wrong of course. It's terrorist logic.
Yeah, but the terrorist in this instance is cute, and therefor, players will overlook these actions.
>>567359654She still needs to atone for her crimes.1 life made for every life taken. This is all of them, not just the ones from the mission. Her gangster days still need to be addressed.
>>567357972They're shit
>>567359963Her crimes will be judged, based on the aesthetics of those she killed; if they are ugly, or plain her actions will be overlooked, but if they were cute, she will receive spankings (dispensed by me, of course)
>>567359654But the players give death to the terrorist for her actions with their gameplay?
>>567359654They're cute and young. The main characters were also terrorists. Like GV probably has a higher kill count on innocents than some of the Eden members with the bombings he did, especially the stuff on infrastructure. The difference is that they want to stop genocide with genocide while GV doesn't. We critique GV's methods for going overboard sometimes, but Eden are like GV on meth.>>567359382A few atrocities will do that, especially as Gibril seems to be empathetic to adept oppression and vengeance oriented. I did not expect her to value freedom so much as an abstract concept and argue for it, however. She didn't strike me as the type.
>>567360276>He didn't turn the game off, and never pick it up again after intentionally losing to GibrilIt's not like you'd be missing anything. Canon Ending, just like that One Part in 7th Dragon: VFD>No, I am NOT doing that.
Will they add a third batch of skins to their massively successful new game?
>>567357320>Eden if they were realistic teenaged terrorists
>>567360792>massively successfulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdRAZJUuvw
>>567361698I feel you'll be posting this video a lot in 4 days.
>>567359654Not overlook but force her to make amends in other ways.
>>567360606>just like that One Part in 7th Dragon: VFDWhat part?
>>567360792It's nice that she comes back in time as an adult to get bullied by her humans some more
>>567148597>This one is almost over in less than two days The hype for that BitSummer game announcement is off the charts!
Would Elisefags be fine with Zeno getting her?
>>567362331>Losing your girl to an I**lianNo! And now I understand why Bowser is so pissed.
>>567362331I don't self-insert. Sure, as long as he treats her right.
>>567362331They are a bad match up. Elise is afraid of loud noises and Gino is...well...
>>567362331I only self-insert. Never, even if he treats her right.
I forgot how ass the constant backtracking in SF3 postgame was, thank god for assist mode.
>>567362331Funny thing is that they both were really into September Record. Also another factoid, GV banned Joule from playing online games because he's paranoid. She used her powers one time like Elise did in September Record (she misinterpreted some of GV's advice on winning) and that was enough for him to delete all of her games and monitor her activities, but Xeno snuck some games to her under GV's nose.
>>567362778It killed Starforce for good.
>>567362850>Also another factoid, GV banned Joule from playing online games because he's paranoid. She used her powers one time like Elise did in September Record (she misinterpreted some of GV's advice on winning) and that was enough for him to delete all of her games and monitor her activities, but Xeno snuck some games to her under GV's nose.
>>567363041It's from Cutout Joule:>数時間後、シアンは家の人 (ガンヴォルト) にネットゲーム禁止令を言い渡された旨を旗乃に伝えきっぱりとベルストから足を洗うことになった>また余談であるが、の時の一部始終を偶然目撃した他のプレイヤーによって、伝説のラッキエルフの噂が一部で囁からていくことになるのだが、それはまた別の話である。>A few hours later, Ciel informed the "person of the house"—Gunvolt—that she had been handed a ban on gaming; consequently, she resolved to wash her hands of *Belst* once and for all.>As a side note, thanks to other players who had accidentally witnessed the entire sequence of events, rumors of a "legendary Lucky Elf" would eventually begin to circulate in certain circles. But that, as they say, is another story.Xeno sneaking her games is from another story. GV is kind of controlling and paranoid about who Joule hangs out with, but he has to be considering Sumeragi.
How many of those gold bikini luna pics are there i’ve seen a bunch as the op pic
>>567363343Sorry, first line got messed up. Should read:A few hours later, Ciel informed Hatano that the head of her household—Gunvolt—had handed down a ban on online gaming; with that, she firmly resolved to wash her hands of *Belst* once and for all.
>>567363519>>567363343>GV is kind of controlling and paranoid about who Joule hangs out with, but he has to be considering Sumeragi.I dunno man, sounds a bit toxic.
>>567363680They can never live normal lives, only the illusion of normalcy.
>>567363343I wish there was a story of some poor schlub that wants to impress Juan and get his permission to date Cyan. He has to go through tons of bullshit throughout the date to earn zappy's respect. Meanwhile she's just using the guy to try and make Juan jealous. Hijinks ensue. Then flash forward towards the end of the first game and that poor bastard is leaving flowers for Cyan and Juan, thinking both of them died from terrorist shenanigans.
>>567348880"Dicking all the women" would've meant jack in GV1 since there's only Elise. He'd have still killed Nova and destabilized the balance of power.
>>567363873Because you're moonlighting as a terrorist, blowing up shit and assassinating people for a madman who pays you in pennies.
>>567363680It's very similar to Copen and Tenjian, ain't it?
>>567364035How much does Nova pay to be a terrorist in his group?
>>567364324Cope and GV would never have let their respective sisters go undercover to get fucked in the head by Sumeragi like Tenjian did, no matter how persuasive their argument was. Cope and GV are the types to literally risk the world for their sisters. Tenjian would risk his sister to wipe out nonadepts.
>>567363873Should've kept the collar on her.
>>567364035That one last part must be a lie. VIG are able to get you some very amazing goods delivered on your house or be obtained by selling state of the art tier components. I don't think that whatever you get from a mission is chump change should it be used on basic living expenses instead of a pendant that allows you to defy the laws of physics.
>>567364369Enough to afford a butler and a swanky bachelor pad.
>>567348875>her true form: a sacred swordBad translation? GV doesn't have swordgirls
Does inti have the rights to make a waku waku 7 sequel or remake if they wanted? I’ve always wanted to learn how tesse’s sisters look but tesset is the closest thing that exist to that idea having art
>>567364510Considering all the Copen tech Mytyl's team is covered in in the secret ending, I'm not so sure about that.>>567364721Sacred Swords is probably the Korean translation of Hōken (宝剣), or Treasured Sword. In English, this is rendered Glaive, because 8-4.
>>567364778>Inti Creates>fighting gameBro they would add online witj delay based netcode 8 months after the game comes out
>>567364551It's Nova, it'd be chump change to him.
>>567364651Is Nova one of those kinds of guys that buys people tons of drinks and whatnot to become friends with them. Is he trying to groom his teammates.
>>567365275Kinda, but he's also the type to get groomed, so it goes both ways.
>>567363925I mean, Cyan told him a guy was into her and he was happy about it.If anything the hoops are tests to see if he's a threat or not which makes them more possible if he's a non-adept.
>>567365275>friendsIn his own words, mercenaries are easier to control or something. Merak just needs a month's supply of G-Fuel and he can be bribed.
>>567365038They could always change game genre puyo puyo style, i just feel like it’s a shame these cool designs only have one game even if one of them is literally joseph joestar recolor everyone else is so cool
https://x.com/GunvoltOfficial/status/2056211165165060370
>>567365489Would Juan go into shock if someone called him Cyan's dad?
>>567365679>doesn't even care about how the game playsAt this point I shouldn't be surprised by this in this general.
>>567365679>cool designsThere are only two good designs on that page, Tesse and Arina.
>>567365489>If it's an adept, GV preps the Lux.>if it's a nonadept, it's a-ok.When you realize GV has a lot of suppressed adept racism, much of GV1 and GV2 makes sense. Despite supposedly fighting for adept rights, everyone he kills is an adept, and he feels good after killing them. He kills even very weak adepts who he'd acknowledge would be no threat, where he spares nonadepts like Copen who are massive threats, not just once, but multiple times.In GV2, he holds adepts mostly responsible for the state of the world and the oppression they face. If they weren't so monstrous, then the nonadepts would accept them. When he encounters an unknown adept, he is instantly hostile and suspicious towards them. In a nonhostile situation, he treats nonadept kids as just kids, whereas adept kids get the cold GV treatment, like they're adults.It's also why he acts so serious, straight-laced, and boring when almost every other adept, even Asimov, are eccentric clowns. He's constantly wishing he could be a normie without powers, and is disgusted by the 15/10 adept women throwing themselves at him (because attractiveness scales with septimal power in GV). GV3 was actually him being forced to get over his adept hatred and accept his adeptness.
>>567366753>When you realize [Headcanon]
>>567366479Motherfucker don't you dare to disrespect about Politank Z
>>567366860Not a fan of the Ruckus X memes, are you?
>Having to watch /inti/ discuss waku waku 7god please noZONDA DISCUSSION, SAVE ME
>>567366886Sorry but they have that unpolished "indieslop character design" to them.
>>567367141It's retarded like all headcanon fanfiction this place shits out. Why don't this place disgust the games for once?
>>567365750"that title" being either iX3 or GalGun 3, right?
Disgust THIS
>>567367162Discuss Gibril babymaking instead and how Pantera would guide her to do it.
>>567366753Juan keeps insisting to Cyan to look for inner beauty of a nice minos boy while piling up bodies of adept chads trying to sniff around her skirt. What about Dave, he's trying to be an accountant. That's a steady job.
>>567367556>Cyan finally goes "okay I'll give him a shot">actually enjoys her time with him>things escalate, she's happy>she sees Acura gun him down for being a disgusting race traitorPoor girl can't catch a break.
>>567367556Has Gunvolt considered a robot? Maybe a plasma legion or something. I hear they're all the rage among female adepts.
>>567367689Juan just goes Oh that rascaly Acura-kun. He's the sitcom neighbor. The audience laughs and we cut to credits.
one man juan volt
>>567367162>monkey's paw curls>Zonda is revealed to play a story role in the new Gunvolt game shown at BitSummit
>Pantera is the new main character now
>>567367757Well, if Acura had to go into another game series to get laid maybe we'll have to do the same with Cyan too. Juan can commission Wily to build him Family Man to get Cyan someone.
>>567368120She can't be. She doesn't have one of the Chinese zodiac doohickeys. She has the height requirements to be a muse though.
>>567367689>give him a shot
>>567368127iX2 says he married a robot loli in that timeline and the iX timeline he's got both a robot and a loli as love interests.What I'm saying is Acura would be very into Roll and Call. Given they're both blonde robot lolis like Elfie.
God damn, another thread done <2 days. I choose to believe this is the work of Luna and no one else.
>>567368437ix2 is director brainrot with an IP that he doesn't have authority over. Sunsoft probably didn't scrutinize it too closely.
>>567368657She looks so good in golden
>>567368308>She has the height requirements to be a muse though.Zonda wasn't a muse.
>>567369117Wasn't saying she was. She temporarily had the powers, but it's in contention whether she'd have gotten them under control or not if GV wasn't cooking her alive with electricity.
seventh moon...
>>567148597I just had the weirdest fucking realization, Luna is exactly what Lusamine from pokemon would have wanted lillie to be, Luna even fits perfectly as a name for a character in pokemon sun and moon
>>567368437He's into blondes, you say?
>>567369474Luna's too good a person for that.
>Luna this, Luna that
>>567370382That's very well animated.
El ombligo de la Luna. . . .
Anybody baking?
Main heroines are always relatable girls next door which Moon can never be. She's too antagonizing and alienating.
>>567367513These cowards don't dare to melt Doro Network.
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