Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9327 - Masturbating Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4 (embed)>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r (embed)>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>567265762
>>567306459
Evan Stanley Cannot Draw Human Women.
>>567306536Those are different though, they were pulled from a random and now forgotten source. The bibles came from Sitton himself
>>567306459Dumb doe...
Knuckles has a present for (You)
First!
Honey the Cat posters orgy at the /sthg/ mansion living room
>>567306569Woah take it easy!
>>567306771
>Iblis is released in the randomly fatal Egg Carrier crash and would go on to ravage the world for the next 200 years>Silver the Hedgehog is born within THESE 2 centuries>Iblis is erased from all of time>everything in those 200 years retroactively never happened, because they never could've happened if Iblis never existed>except for Silver lol, fucker doesn't even remember 06 and he still exists, inexplicably>it's not even a future Trunks/Kid Trunks situation, it's straight up the same Silver>at worst he has negligible amnesia and meet Sonic either in Rivals or they met off-screen
>>567306620>Mommy MilkersBlaze is literally called flat >>567306730>SittonI can't read his name without thinking "shit ton"
>>567306357Hold on, hold on. First of all, I never mention this place at all. Secondly, I don't engage in politics or that kind of thing where you 'own the libs.' And lastly, the IDW staff already knows about this place, and that's not thanks to me. Anyway, I'm not looking to swing the political pendulum in either of those places. Perhaps you should correct your narrative, because it doesn't align with what I do.
>>567306796Don't forget to cover the surfaces with large plastic sheeting.
I'll ask it again:Does anyone have any idea where this is from?
>>567306939>The Mommy Milkershttps://youtu.be/5B1wHYwk1lk
Bro really likes to pretend he's got an agenda lolShut up and sit in the corner boy.
>>567306721
>>567306862I'd like to say that he wasn't affected because he was outside time but he forgot all the events of 06 and meeting Blaze but not his life in the apocalypse before that.>>567307013https://www.instagram.com/p/DMDK2CKOVgi/
>>567306459this is beautiful
>>567306756>“Hey Bump, I got your IQ test results back.”“Ooh! What did I get?”>“…A 7.”“…Outta 10?”
'iona
>>567307292Thanks! :D
Western consumer = ask questions Japanese consumer = good little goy cattle, just consoom and ask for more food
Sonic 1Sonic CDSonic 2Sonic 3Sonic & KnucklesSonic AdventureSonic Adventure 2Sonic HeroesSonic 06Sonic UnleashedSonic ColorsSonic GenerationsSonic Lost WorldSonic ForcesSonic FrontiersThese are all considered the only mainlines right?
>>567306952Admit that Violet was right and that Surge would never fuck Sonic
>>567306459Can't masturbate without some nice visuals.
>>567307694Nope, Surge is Sonic's wife.
>>567306862Speed Simulator is apparently canon and it operates with the idea that 06 Silver and Rivals Silver are two separate characters. Chrono/Tech-Knight Silver might also be a separate character.
>>567307689There's also Mania and Superstars. And maybe the Sonic 4 games sorta.
>>567307679I wouldn't know for sure but I would assume that something in their culture has been perpetuated for dozens of years for this mindset to develop.
>>567307390
>He had to clarify the part of being another man's wife.Freudian slip.
>>567306952>>567307973Artificial drama
>>567307973Lol
>>567307835Yo duo when are you doing Silvouge again?
>>567307973>>567308070>>567308121No guys it's totally normal please belieeeeve me I'm doing it ironically
>>567306678 #The Pokemon Anime came out after the games in Japan. It was coming out just barely before Gold/Silver was coming out.So Japanese fans saw Satoshi as a Red analog rather than literally the same person from what I can tell.When people say the Japanese dont have a concept of canon, they are engaging in slight of hand and equivocation.They do. What they dont have is arguments about "canon vs non-canon due to storyline or information capatibility" like you see overhear.Over here, there is a tendency for people to think everything has to be part of a "main canon" to matter and if its not, its to be seen as lesser cast, which gets people into arguments about trying to justify why something should or "deserves" to be canon for validation reasons.The Japanese absolutely understand for example that OG!Brody and SuperBroly are not the same character.What they don't do is get into autistic arguments over which is "biblically accurate".Whenever such things happen, they just defer to the Manga anyway.
>>567308136I've been stuck retraining my models for Anima, sorry for taking so long on that request bro.
>>567308136Hes too busy gooning to his ntr stash.
>>567306862Silver is Sonic's wind finding a new vessel.
>>567306862Watch them make pot head Silver canon because that's how he deals with the pain
What's violet's endgame anyway
>>567308354Being the last color in the rainbow, because she's the last word in gay
>>567308218Alright let me know when it's done
>>567307848It's the same Silver. The second timeline is just speculation and theories. But he is the same character from the original game
Do I have to bend the knee and call my fanfics based off of the original, true timeline where Sonic was the one aboard the Ark an AU?
Excuse me Violet, but my Waifu and her Husband don't appreciate you here. Please leave before I call him over >:C
>>567308412I don't get it
What's this, the namefag party?
>>567308658Yes, you crazy person you.
>>567308658Is that actually canon? I always see this thrown around.
>>567307848ESP Silver is from a hypothetical post-Blaze/Iblis-seal. He's not the Silver who became super with Sonic and Shadow to fight Solaris. Basically he's an aberration in the timeline. Maybe the overwritten flow of time still exists somewhere...
>>567308725Her sweaty ass-print is erotic.
>>567306459I miss Skype...
>>567308862No, its just a meme theory.
>Franchise is called Sonic the Hedgehog
>>567306672
>>567309021He was here first desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS7LXxjsoxM
>>567308658post your favourite fanfic about this then
>>567308948I'm glad AIM and Skype aee dead, and I'll be over the moon when it's Discord's turn.
/sthg/ IRC chat room
He's a good boy he doesn't deserve to die
>>567309335he needs therapy
>>567309335He's making her do Reverse-Flash crimes. He needs to be put down like ol' Yeller.
I finished my shift as shop assistant after fighting against both sonic and mario themed pajamas for 5 hours straight FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NIGGER FAGGOT TRANNY NIGGER
>>567309335I don't think he'll die.
bad news, Espioyume isn't drawing anything this week
>>567306952Gen more raccunny!
>>567309529What
>>567309582Why the fuck not?!
>>567309620gas leak
>>567309650Someone said something about being burn out for drawing too much a few days ago. It must have been her
If you love Sonic Adventure you're in luck!
>>567309582She hasn't drawn anything past year.>"But whiteboard"Essentially everything is exactly the same
>>567309620Basically i must fold properly pajamas every 5 minutes because customers fucks them up.
>>567309582Who fucking cares, she was going to draw the same Espioslop again
>>567309809
>>567309335Very rare moment of hope and sincerity showing in his eyes.
>>567309897That's rough.
>>567309335I sense Kit is going to get a major character shift puts him at odds with Surge.Or Nothing Happens: The Comic, but hey, who's counting?
>>567309897Sorry that was me, I just like wearing them
>>567309878SA was and remains kino. Why?
>>567309582I'll take her spot in the meantime.Espio where are you?
Kitto-sama ne, nandeyaru, titty no fucku.
>Sonic being trapped in virtual realityProphetic.
>>567309885>>567309929if you believe you can draw better, you can show it to the class right now>>567310201https://magma.com/d/eFCi8ic8nWhttps://magma.com/d/eFCi8ic8nWhttps://magma.com/d/eFCi8ic8nW
>>567310139*bang*
>>567309038Tikhaos was such a fucked up concept.
>And his heart flutter seeing that smile.
>>567310460Surge does look cute whe she is sincerely smiling.
>>567310092>Surge vs Kit will succeed where Sonic vs Tails failed
>>567310325Good shot.
>>567309182Only if we go back to IRC
Starline made the Imposters to replace Sonic and Tails to "dismantle the Sonic Cycle".Her becoming a hero is just her following her programming.
Where can I read the Blade of Courage chapters? Grabber Zone is only up to chapter 9.
>>567310263It lags too much on my iPad :C
>>567310460how is that kit's pov when he's in front of her
>waiting for kit to become evilDo you really believe the writers are meant to do that?
>>567310690Why would you want to read that toilet paper
>>567309182AIM was based, fuck you.
>>567310781Because I want to.
>>567307414and ‘urge
>>567310717I have the same problem. If more than 5 people are online I can't draw
>>567310794AIM was for squares, cool kids used MSN
>>567307795
>>567310917MSN was shit. I fucking hated that shit ass IM client. And I hated having to talk to anyone I knew that didn't use AIM (which was basically everyone I knew that wasn't American) on it.
>>567311021*nudges you*
>Helloooo!>...>WHAAAT
>>567310398I like he concept, too bad they never explained how that could happen
>>567311304SAY SOMETHING
Cream the Rabbit.
>>567311394I like the concept too. It fits the grimdark bad future vibe they were going for.
>>567311474
>>567311142
>>567308870And your source for that is?
>>567311603time to cook!
>>567308590Silver lives in Soleanna he wouldn't say this.
>>567307795Beautiful gal.
https://youtu.be/5WwcB4o1x_4?si=wMpwVr12CyYgGvjz
>>567310763there has to be a reason why they don't make her appear with Kit in the mobile games so yeah I always thought the writters already decided Kit is going full evil.I want to believe mystery nigga is somehow Kit and not Starline, but Evan isn't smart enough for that
Douge
>>567310687She is a hero and the cycle is a very real thing.Sonic's refusal to die is why everything is rotting.
>>567312231CnC!
>>567309021>people care just as much if not more about the friends>and Naka was aware of this
>>567311691Literally his character descriptions and dialogue indicate he's a version of Silver that's from some point post-Silver-Story, pre-Last-Episode, as if the End of the World event didn't happen to him.
>>567307885It's rare for me to see some Bump n' Sage that's new to me. I like this.
>>567312619what'd she do this time
>I'm scared about my p-powers>never showed any real problem controlling them, only the oppositeSega was on drugs when they made her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXrCq9sxhr0
>>567312775So 06 Silver. Like we've been saying. Because Silver never gets an ESP power up in 06.
We need to kills Sonic and Silver. Only then we can save the timeline.Shadow to since he can time travel now.
Ok i've seen the prologue of the new starfox and while the redesign is too realistic and feral i must say the dialogue is really good at least. It's weird to see furry stuff written well for once.Also sonic the hedgehog.
Name one time Naka was wrong
>>567312254Shut up Kit
>>567312923No she was teased for her powers, which also doesn't make sense since she's the princess of the entire goddamn planet and her powers are a part of the royal lineage and their duty/right to the Sol Emeralds.
>>567313179The only design I hate is the cat girl's but they're fine. Can't blame them for finally catching on to furries lol.
>>567312450People hate Naka because he had standards and wasn't clueless.
>>567313202Balan Wonderworld..
>>567313304bullying your future queen sounds very funny desu
>>567313179It's supposed to look like the puppets from Star Fox 64 but they made them digitigrade when that's never been a thing in the series before.
>>567312204I really hope Evan was just playing with the Starline reveal and we actually get something original. I'd love if we got some dumb masters of masters shit going on.
Blaze only works when she is around characters she is in a struggle with, like Marine who bosses her around, or Gardon who is overly formal, or Amy who tries to get her to be extroverted.>>567313304Those are both headcanons.
>>567313710>I'd love to see bad writingYou must love IDW, then!
>>567313324It could be worse, at least they didn't joke about the toxic atmosphere comparing that with farts, thank god looks like nintendo kicked out the quirky tranny from metroid 4.
>>567313179Miyu and Fay are the Mighty and Ray of Star Fox.Krystal is Silver.
>>567313832Krystal is Blaze.
>>567313179The issue for me is even if they make it the best star fox game it can be... it'll just end up being a clone of sf64. It's why I want a new star fox (ideally a prequel with james) that plays like sf64 but is its own story.It'd be like if Sega just kept re making sonic adventure 2, instead of giving me what I want. Which is sonic adventure 3 but good.
>>567313627Yeah, like i said the redesign is bullshit feral slop.
>>567313832Yeah you're right
>>567313870>>567313832Krystal is Sally since she was made by westerners and being left to rot forever.
>>567313871I'm not a Star Fox vet, but I would like to see a new game that refines and expands on the Assault gameplay
>>567313832I can not imagine how awful fay would look in the new 'style'.
>>567314023japan hate for western characters is real, we must be the exception
>>567314125I'd also accept that, just anything that not literally sf64 again. Idk why Nintendo keeps doing that. It'd be like if every mario game was literally a SM64 remake, instead of games like galaxy or odyssey where they take the sm64 foundation and expand on it.
>>567307689
>>567313871>re making sonic adventure 2Shut up, don't give them fucking stupid ideas.
>>567314360i would have much preferred they made another sm64 instead of galaxy
>>567313870Blaze's come out and was conceived as a Sonic game from the beginning. Silver's game, Fifth Phantom Saga, was an unrelated game that was cancelled and the leftover concepts were salvaged and used to create Silver, like Krystal.
I watched Gameoverse pilot and thought it was pretty good.The real question is how long until we get a Sonic themed episode with Arin voicing the Sonic stand in
>>567314125Starfox Assault 2 with online multiplayer shooter would seriously make me consider buying a Switch 2. I love arena shooters and vehicle combat but Bungie fucked up Halo.
>>567313001An '06 Silver from an undefined point in time where Last Story didn't occur, yes. We already know what becomes of '06 Silver after the Iblis Trigger is neutralized: he becomes Rivals/Current Silver.
>Old outdated stuff that are offbrand>"Just let go already">Allows Sonic boom to exist and adds movie sonic skins to everything
>>567313710There's no way it isn't Starline
>>567315563Somehow, Starline returned…
>>567315471Even the Japanese are frustrated
>>567315471Why do jpfags worship this idiot again?
>>567315563It's Lanolin
>>567315669I wonder what a JPfag Windshitter would say to a Japanese fan like this if they were able to communicate with each other
>>567314658Silver isn't from FPS. They just reused the power from that game.
>>567315694I praise him for stopping the sissification of Shadow by the hand of team dark fags. whom are actually rougefags trying to keep rouge relevant. shadowfags don't care about team dark
>>567315748>chest always coveredevil Lanolin confirmed
>>567315848There's the usual comment from this guy
>>567315215Sega of America information is not reliable in canon discussions.
>>567315471The DiC cartoons weren't made by/with Sonic Team.
>>567316094>stop having fun!
>>567316094This is actually fucking evil lmao
We had it good with Archie.
>>567316274Neither was Sonic Prime so moot point.
>>567315669The japs really love Scourge don't they. too bad I am confident Sonic team will do a warped version of scourge without any of his cool points
You're not a real fan if you didn't read Archie
>>567315748ABT really did a number on Lanolin what with everybody wanting her to be evil.
>>567316514
Sonic
>>567316213
>>567316558Part of me wonders if some Japanese see Scourge as the ideal ‘western cool’ that Sonic might have missed
>>567316657Yep, not made by Sonic Team just like Boom.
>>567316558Youtube recommended me one of this guy's videos the other day>1 hour 25 minutes talking about Silver>part 2what the fuck
>>567316807Not reliable information.https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/silver.html
Ore-sama (オレ様), arrogant and egotistical.Placing extreme importance on one's self.
>>567315471Thinking back to the Oogtar comparison that people do with the Freedom Fighters, I just remembered that the Mario Movie adapted the Brooklyn origin story and opens with the Super Show theme song.Just re-adapt and recontextualize
>>567317152Sonic will fix her
does surge just straight up have no character whatsoever
Silver
^-^
>>567317273adorable things aren't they?
frankly I think its incredible this general has a bigger weeaboo contingent than the fucking gacha and ff14 threads
>>567317152 (me)It should be noted that Vector also uses "ore-sama">>567317273
>>567317186I am very convinced salty office politics are at play there. and someone must have been carrying a personal grudge or 2
Shadow
>>567316898can you tell me was Iizuka was in the boom TV show?no?you lost
>>567316558I think they imagine that Scourge is Terios, when he's really more like...Wasonic.
>>567317640cool fan->wicked reference*pukes*
Amy
>>567317557Jet also uses ore-sama
>>567317152Does she use kisama though?
Aogirinaru is my favorite fanartist. What's yours?
>>567317918God damn Movienic looks so shitty. Cannot believe some people want the games to adopt the design.
>>567317830Terios is just Shadow
>>567317464I really can’t think of a bigger weeb fanbase than Sonic honestly but really what other franchise has had such conflicting character lore between countries like Sonic has?
Metal
>>567318067NoAnta (あんた), informal and casual when used with friends.downright rude, blunt and contemptive.with strangers and people you don't care for.
>>567317557>>567317975
>>567318096No one will ever beat aoki
>>567317283Surge well she's the toughest fighter powerpuff save the day!!!
>>567318408Looks pretty good and complex
>>567317152Why can’t Sega just use sprites for blobian mouths…Why do they always have to use some shitty ugly 3D model bullshit instead of keeping it simple and cute…
>>567317103What exactly did you think this was supposed to prove?
>>567318325Oh, she's like Silver then.
>>567318204Star Fox before 64
>>567318858why does this artstyle give "freakiest shota cub porn you've ever seen" vibes
>>567318096there are so manyMiijudongbomugarekiKornArt3sk_rokuroare my favorites I think
>>567318204>I really can’t think of a bigger weeb fanbase than Sonic honestlyfire emblem, fanbase is weeb central
>>567318994You're seeing things>>567319012Cool
>>567317283>literally talks about nothing but saving the day
>>567318289Eggman really needs to stop giving his robots sentience.
>>567318381
>>567319361Tails Doll cannot be contained.
>>567317283The problem with turning her into a friendly rival and trying to sweep her backstory under a rug and ignore it is that her backstory IS her entire fucking character.Without it, she doesn't have one.
>>567317695>can you tell me was Iizuka wasNice goal post move.
>>567317283Neither does sthg
>>567318381why is Espio so sweaty?
>>567319454
>>567317283>>567319485Surge the Brandrec.
https://youtu.be/1wKy4S4Z8YM?si=l23gsVdhFMCmAH3e&t=1373People really like to pretend Sonic Boom isn't canon. Damn show was meant to replace modern Sonic you ingrates.
>>567318584>the future changed so much that Silver can't cope with the alterations and became a lolcowngl starting to see how we got to Uwuver
>>567319645IM THE ONE WHO HATES IDW FOR FUN
>>567319864I wish it did.
They really gave Surge the fucking wind treatment and now she has one personality trait that dominates everything else because she's a game character now
>>567319763Too much sex
>>567320098To be fair, I don't think being a mindbroken rape victim would fly. I mean, PG franchise brother.
>>567320098that's the price you pay to be canon
>>567319963Jax would definitely be one of those Fandom eceleb accounts that post mean spirited memes disguised as just being a silly goofy goober He would mess with the Sonic Fandom for sure lol too easy
>>567307795Post dick
>>567318584That you can't read.
>>567320296Then they only have themselves to blame for writing that in the first place.But trying to undo it now just means Surge's entire character and purpose no longer exist. She's just another friend.
As a femanon I'm grosed that she didn't have the self-respect to keep it in her blouse!
>>567319792I miss the sprite comic era of the internet, I don't care how abundant and cringe they were, they had a charm to them
amogla
>>567320098Oh yeah forgot Surge can do that magnetic electric field shit to fly
I WILL SAVE THE DAY YOU FAGGOTSI WILLSAVE THE MOTHERFUCKIN DAY
>>567319438Silverfags going on and on about how rude he is while Amy being a sassy Kogal goes without justice.
>>567320361
>Suge joins the games>her characterization gets squeezed down to "I'm rude and want to be a famous hero who does good things"that's genuinely so fucked. This is what awaits all western ocs that become canon. Any part of your personality that messes with the games gets shaved off. Imagine what they would do to the freedom fighters.
>>567320874Imagine what they'll do to Tangle and Whisper
>>567308354Trying to escape his own reality
>>567320573InSonicNia was in the top 10 of 'em for many years, back when those sort of stats were counted.
>>567320534>The Pumpkin TiggerImagine trusting a translator who can't write.
>>567320353>tfw all your bad faith takes get btfo and the community starts to meme you're content These types will always eventually fall and so will he (probably )
Does Surge need to insert "Save the day" or "save the city" into EVERY SENTENCE???????
>>567312231NEF (Not Even Friends)
>SEGA is demonstrating that they will butcher any character from the comics to make them game friendly>IDW is still somehow the problem
>>567320296>>567320545> mindbroken rape victimThe mindbroken part wasn't the issue it was Evan's idea to insert the rape allegory
>>567320874>>567320995On second thought, I think I DO want IDW characters to become game-canon...
>>567321064Sonic would trust the pumpkin rabbit
>>567320995
>>567320874>>567320995Hell of a monkey's paw for Ian and Evan trying to melodramatize the series
I don't even like Surge but her concept of being a person who hates Sonic was a lot better than whatever the fuck they're settling on
>>567321338correct
>>567321338What else is she supposed to talk about?
>>567321502They're just making Surge female Jet the Hawk.
Surge was supposed to be girl Kawaki what happened...
PLEASE LET SURGE BE EVIL AGAIN SO SHE CAN HAVE SEX WITH KIT I NEED IT
>>567321591She literally got turned into Super Era Vegeta
>>567321502Becuase there was an actual story there.>Kidnapped and mindfucked to be a weapon, life basically stolen from her, has gained a hatred for everyone involved in it whether actively or passively, uses her new powers to take revengeThen Evan decided "noooooooooooo women can't be villains!" and basically pretended that story never happened so Surge is now yet another friendly rival who's only remaining characteristic is that she's a bit rude.
>>567321591don't compare that waste of ink to Jet
>>567321338> IDW is still somehow the problemYes, because they're trying to butcher the characters from the games
>>567321502>>567321591>>567321649>>567321798She was supposed to be the Juri Han of Sonic
>>567321875>idw had misplaced ideals and tried to give game characters depth>Sonic Team will strip all characters of their depth and reset them to a near blank slate
>>567322030She was supposed to the Earnest T. Bass of Sonic.
>>567321846>Then Evan decided "noooooooooooo women can't be villains!"She needs to be self-inserted in the comic as the only human oc so everyone punches and kicks and pisses and bites and pummels her
>>567322158They're just doing what idw staff suggested evan redeemed surge
>>567321846Evan's stupid "mentally ill people should not be villainized" mindset is genuinely so destructive to writing
cute eggman
>>567322243Do you think Sega would have ever used Surge if Evan did not do what she did then?
I need to remind you all that Evan redeemed SCOURGE
>>567322393I'd rather they didn't if this is the neutered character we're getting
I forgot did surge actually cause the power outage?
>>567320098>>567320874Why are we acting like the games did this when the comics reduced her down to this first? The game is making reference to the very comic issues that did this to her character. It's not on Sega, it's all Evan and her bullshit
the idw haters are now on "well the games suck SO much it'll ruin the IDW characters LOL"
>>567322486>>567322554I’m now just wondering how much of this really is on Evan and how much Sega is trying purge Surge’s characteristics to make her more game friendly.Can anyone prove that SEGA didn’t have a hand in this?
>>567322554Because the games are the chance to introduce people to these characters. If SSS was your first introduction to Surge you would think her entire personality revolves around protecting the fucking city.
>>567321649>Kawaki New illustration clearly shows him to be more like Shadow than Surge fitting since both are frauds
>>567321338I believe the question of whether or not IDW (or any of the licensed products) are canon has been answered. They are elseworlds that Sonic Team will take from and change as they see fit. This isn't something new. Shadow's limitters from Sonic X, Amy & Charmy from the old manga, even recent things like the blue electricity taken from the Movieverse.It was stated years ago that much of the licensed stuff is "Extended Universe" or "Extended Canon". It can be decanonized and altered on Sonic Team's whim. Whatever they wish to import, it is their power to decide.The real question now is: Will Kit be abandoned by Surge?
Have a good day
>>567322547It was Kit.He took out the power for Surge to go and fix it by herself for the credit and glory, which is why he's not in.
>>567321502>>567320874>>567322486Many of us didn't want IDW to be canon to the games Now everyone loses
Every discourse about the characters is you guys making up shit to get mad about.
>>567322714Idwfags at it again with being incapable of criticizing the idw staff for their mistakes and defaulting to "its sega" when they see something wrong with the shitty comic but cant admit they agree with the haters
>>567322694*kiss Knuckles*
>>567322473When?
>>567322968Can you show me proof then?
>>567322554Archiefags gotta demonize the games.
>>567322816>Will Kit be abandoned by Surge?Only thing we can do is wait.I'm intriguied to see Kit's Japanese impressions when they translate him
Another Rouge drop from Inkershike's patreonEnjoyhttps://files.catbox.moe/tqvjam.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/ml5rh6.jpg
>IDWfags shit on JP purists or gamefags for disliking the Western comic character assassination >Wanting your favorite character to remain consistent across official media is a crime to them>These same people are pissed off right now about Sega writing IDW characters in ways they dislike
>>567323009In Ghosts of the Future, Scourge sacrifices himself to rescue Sonic from the devourer. In the comic's ending Scourge would go on to be revived along with Fiona so he can live happily ever after and start over with a second chance
>>567322836Did Kit do it with Surge's permission
>>567322714>Can anyone prove that SEGA didn’t have a hand in this?Of course notMy only thought is why they would bother in that case.Tangle and Whisper have shown up, notably in that Chaotix files, though I haven't listened to it so I don't know how well it conveys their characters (or what little character they have).
>>567322647go back to whatever toxic positivty ghetto you crawled out of
>>567323246Permission?
Nah windfags warned you that the characterizations from the games are not compatible with IDW and Archie and the comic OCs would get butchered in order to fit the games instead of the other way around.
>>567323157>gamefags are pissed>comicfags are pissed>autism is off the chartsit's show time
>>567323325you lost
>>567323045Burden of proof is on the person making the claims.
>>567323045The entire comic since Evan's taken it over. How she handled Whisper and turned into into a crying mess that was never this bad in the early parts of the comic. Evan can only write Amy well, almost every other character original or not has been butchered in some way by her whether thats Surge or Silver or Lanolin or Whisper or others. It's 1000000% on Evan if you see the problems in her writing
>>567323220What the actual fuck. I wish I could purge GotF from existence. An absolute worst example of headcanon fan fiction slop that has somehow infested parts of itself into official works.>>567323148Thank you I needed this
>>567323323>My only thought is why they would bother in that case.To break them down into simple archtypes like the majority of the cast.The same reason why Tails' has been virtually stagnant and has returned to being Sonic's buttbuddy since the Adventure days.
>>567323605>Sonic Team Sally becomes Shadow's rapist
IDWparasites need to fuck off my franchise already
Bro is literally imagining outrage like a little twitter addicted goblin oh my stars.
>>567323220>Scourge would go on to be revived along with Fiona so he can live happily ever afterany pics of this? I'm not calling you a lair, I just want to see this out of morbid curiosity
>>567323654>Evan is creating a Pontaff situation in which the writing is so bad I'm left begging for fucking Ian to take over againWhat a time to be alive
>>567323654Alright, well that gets me curious to read her bullshit then.>>567323609I wasn't making claims, I was asking questions.
>>567323709There's also Nicole, who is another one of Gerald's creations and invited GUN onto the ARK in gotf
Blobian thigh gaps
>IDWfags bitching and moaning about their characters not being in the games.>Finally happens but they are altered to match the games and not their gay fanfiction>Hoes madYou asked for this.>>567323750Sonic Team Sally would just be a female Ricky, nothing more.
>>567323940> Evan is creating a Pontaff situation in which the writing is so bad I'm left begging for fucking Ian to take over againNo, Mr. Deconstruction and Melodrama is equally as bad
He's gone NPC mode and repeating, meh. See y'all later.
>>567323889No pics, Here's Evan explaining it https://youtu.be/i4w2JNkfEQY?si=ptppROznZyNzL7aw&t=5634
>>567324290I'm aware, but seeing as they have a stranglehold on the franchise for the forseeable future as we don't seem to have any other writers in the mix, I'm picking the lesser of two evils
>>567323940Evan says Ian ghost writes a lot of her stuff
I started to believe surge and kit are so fucked up in characterization that the writers don't even know what they're doing. For example kit is introduced as submissive and loyal, but then he pulls shit like this >>567323437 later on.It's normal for the audience to build up in their heads certain expectations, such as kit going full rogue one day, although it's probably not planned because it's just ian and evan throwing anime contrast slop to subvert expections without following any logic.
WHY IS SILVER ACTING LIKE HE DIDN'T ALREADY MEET SURGE AND HAVE A FRIENDLY CONVERSATION
>>567322760>alien god DNA >alien dad wanted to take over his body>red markings >edgy>can't get over some blonde bitchHe is Shadow just with cybernetics
>>567324372ah, thank you
>>567324235This was always going to be the case but Archie/IDWfags have always wanted the comics to overwrite the games.
You can't spell Idea and Design Works, LLC without I.A.N.
>>567323220>Redeeming ScourgeOkay, this is where I fucking draw the line.Fiona? Okay, MAYBE you can redeem her - and not because "she's a woman, oooh she's practically handicapped compared to a man, we have to treat her with kid-gloves because we're secretly just as sexist as the chuds if not moreso" - but because she's FROM the same universe as the normal freedom fighters and clearly doesn't have her head on straight, going through a teen-rebel phase out of spontaneous spite because she's emotionally immature. Scourge, need I remind you, COMMITTED PATRICIDE. (No, I don't care what pansy-ass Ian said later to soften the blow, it was pretty fucking clear that Scourge is Bad News.) There's no redeeming that scumbag. He is quite literally the worst version of the entitled jockstrap that Ian imagined Sonic to be.HOW THE FUCK DID WE ALLOW THESE WARPED NOTALENTSWHERE DID WE GO WROOOOOOOOONG
>>567324603This image is peak comedy in so many ways
>>567324568Welcome to IDW. Did they do this kind of shit in the Archie days? I still haven’t gotten around to reading it.
I could probably make a nude edit today.
>>567324556I kept telling people Blaze is a bifauxnen and speaks like a prince. People wouldn't listen. Ruined their idea of her being their ideal waifu i guess.
Where's KitWhere's Sticks
>>567323826>Bunny S-she could hold her own in a fight against Surge&Kit right...
>>567324603LORE TEAM LOOOOORRRREEEEE TEEEEEAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU WHAT IS THIS SHIT???? LORRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TEEAAAMMMMMMMMMMM SAVE THIS FRANCHISE ALREADY
Redeem everyone, yes even (you)
>>567324416I remember Evan said she got Ian involved with the recent chapters because he's the "Sage guy" and then they forgot she was incorporeal
>idw characters meet silver outside of idw>suddenly the uwufication disappears
>>567324889> speaks like a prince>Ruined their idea of her being their ideal waifuThat's what you think
redeem this code for a free trial version
>>567324556Isn't sonic team literally doing the translating here??
>>567324813In archie it was outright wild because sonic wasn't really mandated, but it was also episodic so the expectation you build in your head unfolds in the same issue.
>>567323220
>idw team is retarded and this is segas fault somehow
>>567324910give her mega man-like abilities and they're done for
>>567325185We miss you
>>567324556>>567325230iirc they also fucked up Amy's JP speech pattern in Tailstube, not sure if sub-only or dub too.
>IDWfags experiencing 1% of the characterization pain gamefags do
>>567325345>give her mega man-like abilitiesWhisper basically has that
>>567324889>princejapanese Blaze's deep manly voice sounds like a troon
>>567325230No? Why the fuck would Sonic Team do translation work? Usually, the western side hires a translation company, and they translate it into Japanese and send it to SoJ.
>>567325510Ok ok listen. Gamefags have to deal with Sonic being too stupid/cocky/romantic. IDWfags have to deal with literally everything about Surge going away except "Saving da world"
>>567325230Everything is submitted directly to Iizuka
>>567325510but this demonstrates that game characters have little to no characterization
>>567325559whisper does absolutely nothing with her abilities, unfortunatelyalso they're tied down to her wispon
>>567325590BECAUSE IDW STAFF WANTED THAT. It was their fucking decision moron
discuss
>>567325621They do have it which is why people constantly suggest they be changed.
>>567325342If the team wins, its the teams fault; if the team loses, its the coach's fault.
>>567325427It's probably machine translated like Frontiers. It's definitely not translated by Toyoda like the IDW comics themselves.
>>567324603he isn't acting like he doesn't know her, he is just saying she is stubbornthis is the only interaction they ever had, basically nothing
>>567324630>cybernetics can't keep up with his alien god DNA anymore Kek Shadow no better tho with his rings
>>567325621no, its the opposite actually. It demonstrates the IDW OCs don't have any characterization once you cut out the unnecessary meta commentary and gay shit
>>567324980>yes even (you)...do you really think so
>>567325590>Gamefags have to deal with Sonic being too stupid/cocky/romanticDon't forget constant references, doubting himself, being condescending and having a moralistic hero complex> IDWfags have to deal with literally everything about Surge going away except "Saving da world"Tuff
>>567325853Explain the meta commentary on Surge then
>>567325702Sonic is a sex machine so Metal Sonic is a sex machine
>>567325621Its literally the opposite. It shows that there isnt anything concrete about the IDW characters. They are a hodgrpodge of facts and tidbits rather than concrete concepts or ideas as characters.
I guess Duofag won and Surge literally just wants to be a hero like Sonic
>>567325853All the character's characterization depends on the character bio selling points/pitches. Anything beyond that is free to be fucked up.
>>567306672wtf is this real? the crazy bastards finally got thrown some crumbs
>>567326183her entire backstory and current hatred of sonic is based on the concept of him not properly dealing with eggman and other villains. It can't just be like the games where he defeats eggman and foils his plans, the IDW staff need to turn it into a serious moral question that never really goes anywhere because the writing staff suck
>>567326267Just like Amy and her tarot cards since Frontiers then?
IDW is like if Pokemon had an episode where Ash went to counceling over Team Rocket and had to seriously question why two adults would follow a child across the country
>>567326525Every fucking time.
>>567326582What are you mean?
>>567326541Time to update the shadikal google docky
>>567326706
>>567326552That's what Surge was with Flynn.That is not what Surge is with Evan as she washed away all of that. What little qualities from Flynn Surge that remains in Evan's Surge is insignificant at best if she is not allowed to have revenge on Sonic.
>>567326773there's a google doc?
>>567326769The tarot cards were an obscure fact that was brought back up for Frontiers' DLC, becoming her dominant method of fighting with little regard to the real function of the cards themselves.
>>567324603time-amnesia! :^)
>>567327097Okay. What does this have to do with what anyone said
>>567325615Does this mean he knows that Ian Flynn and SOA are ruining Amy's character but he just doesn't care?
>>567326784>AMY BRING ME THE PULLEY, I FOUND A CHEST FULL OF... bottle caps??!? ARE YOU SERIOUS????
>"Im so wicca!">throws cards like Gambit>"your future looks pretty grim!">divines quest locations with tarot cards>"my readings are absolute!">flies off on a helicopter of cards
>fiona gets into the games>new characterization>sally gets into the games>new characterization>mina gets into the games>new characterization >sticks gets into the games>new characterization
>>567319361>why no Metal TailsEggman is all the genius Metal Sonic could need and Metal Sonic can already fly way better than Tails ever could. It'd be redundant.
>>567327273That current Amy in the games is a reference galore machine that has very little of her love traits as the cut scenes in Generations and Origins either remove or lack a focus of her love for Sonic.
>>567326981https://docs.google.com/document/d/12fAtT7MdOwMMCiHEYvwRriUUoVzO3lnhqOJhB1RJvy4
>>567327346‘iona you stupid
>>567327575>Mario gets into the games>stays the samemarioGODS...... we can't stop los- Winning
>>567326541It's a crumb.A crumb.Tikal is sleeping with Chaos confirmed!
>>567327631>35 pages
>>567327746She likes the tentacle inflation
>>567325848Vegeta is also still on fraud watch
>>567327647Well, these are worth an entire day of digging i guess.
>>567327686cute uwu
>>567327883What's going on in shonen now everyone is suddenly a weakling nowFucking Sonic is outclassing them
>>567327626>That current Amy in the games is a reference galore machine Not particularly. Reference spam is just an Ian thing in general. And Sonic is made to do that more than anyone really.>very little of her love traits as the cut scenes in Generations and Origins either remove or lack a focus of her love for Sonic.Okay but what does this have to do with what was said about the IDW characters?
>>567327804Do not underestimate shippers
Shadriaing all over the place
>>567327971Yeah you can probably trade those in for 3 dollars at most.
wait does this mean in order to be canon compliant we have to change the idw characters
>>567327746>when the last female member of your species would rather get fucked by literal water than you
>>567328083Even Raichu putting in more work
>>567328315No because this is the direction idw staff want.
>>567328146Because at the end of the day all the characters will get reduced back to their simple traits.Enjoy Sonic eating another chili dog for the next twenty years.
>>567328357Tikal is dead.She is an ancestor so that's weird.
>>567328395im starting to think surge just kind of sucks
>>567328572wow really???
you're confusing the standard "hero loses so they can rise again" arc in shonen and most forms of fiction with the "sonic can never lose in any meaningful way" mandate that sega has
>>567328083frieza did a funny and trained in the time chamber to unlock a new form, this isn't the first time that both goku & vegeta get their asses handed to them
>>567327804Incredible, isn't it
>>567328524>you wouldn't fuck your cute ancestors
>>567328524>how dare people from the same village fall in love and fuck? They are like...distant cousins!
>>567328420The chilidog thing isnt even a basic sonoc trait. Its a thing attached to him that Ian and other western writers use as a substance substitute.And I hate when they do that to appease burgerfags.Amy's case is different because people accused her of already being reduced to her love for Sonic. So its people thinking they are fixing her by downplaying it.Her cards coming back is actually good, it communicates to the audience Amy believes in destiny and intuition and junk.I see it like how Tails has his Miles Electric.
"tikal is an ancestor"to be an ancestor, you need descendants, which tikal has none.Also Tikal is from 4000 years in the past. Objectively she's more closely related to every present day man in her village than she would be to Knuckles
>>567328643Storytelling is a lost art because it relies on your audience understanding story structure. We're now on the fifth consecutive generation of people getting totally fried.
>>567328572Always has. She is carried by being "green punk girl Sonic".>>567328597>sonic can never lose in any meaningful way" mandate that sega hasNever existed.
>>567328903Pachamac had the village run a train on her after defying him.She sired most of their next generation.
>>567328935current gen unironically only understands hype moments and aura and think that fiction should just be a non-stop slideshow of their favorite character winning all of the time forever
>>567329056This is what wind autists defend and then they get mad when people rightfully complain that Sonic is written as a Gary Stu
What the fuck are IDWfags bitching about? IDW staff already made it clear they're redeeming Surge. How is her characterization different than in the comics?
Honestly what you're witnessing isn't mischaracterization it's just what IDW characters sound like when they can't do therapy speak
>>567327631>>56732780435 pages for a ship that has had LITERALLY NOTHING for 2 decades???
>>567329174I'm sorry you're retarded and don't get the concept of a character who inspires others to change through being an incredible person who lives for himself
>>567329056And tropes.
wind autists think someone who was born with powers that let him do literally anything he wants (but only does the things he personally wants to) is inspirational
>>567329174This is how a fanfiction writer thinks, where writing is about "avoiding certain tropes" and "dodging landmines" rather than communicating something and conveying a compelling narrative and feeling.Calling Sonic in the games Gary Stu is an accusation levied to attempt to undermine the merit of the character as opposed to an actual criticism.
>>567329056>>567329174You did not just say that in the era when the most popular western cartoons are just uwu quirk chungus versions of older cartoons
>>567329458It is
>>567329276Yes
IDWfags having schizo meltdowns over 3 lines in a Roblox game event they don't play because it doesn't explain Surge's entire backstory really tells you all you need to know about them.
>>567329353I can be physically and intellectually strong and inspire others that way but does that mean I can do anything and have all the answers? No. Sonic shouldn't be any different
>>567329508makes sense for an american given you all worship people with no brains and no skills who were born into generational wealth lol
>>567329508>today i feel like bombing a shelter and kicking a puppy and draining oil down a sink
>>567329458It is. Especially when those things lead to positive outcomes. It speaks to the inherent good of the human condition when the heart is allowed to be free.
>>567328823I'll allow you to continue with your delusions.Don't reply to me because I'll just hide your post.
>>567329616You seem like you can't rotate shapes in your head.
STOP SAYIGN BAD THINK ABOUT WIND
>>5673296031. Why not.2. Who said he does? He doesn't think he does.
>>567329616>americans out of nowhererent free
>>567329749>delusionsIf anything i said is wrong, i'd like to know.
>>567329468Sonic literally cannot ask for help because of it's a Sonic Team mandate and you're telling me that's not Gary Stu writing? If he can't ask for help then he can win any struggle by himself and his friends only exist to praise him and go on about how inspirational he is
>>567329458I relate to Sonic
>>567330028>Sonic literally cannot ask for help because of it's a Sonic Team mandateI've never heard that before.
>>567330243oh wow you are so cool and *reads from script sheet* cool and a free soul. you are like the wind
>>567330028>Sonic literally cannot ask for help because of it's a Sonic Team mandateSonic isn't the type to ask people for help though. He'll accept it or ask someone to do something to help him. But he isn't the type to ho all "oh no im to weak to beat him guys I need your help *sniff*".Thats just not the kind of person or character he is.I dont get why Archiefags and Windschizos are more caught up on what not to do rather than understanding what is.
>tfw no ojou-sama character in Sonic
>>567328207thank you fonzie
>>567330387
>>567330252It became an issue for the movies
So we have the Meta Era hosted by pontaff and GokuWhat era do we refer to Ian's reign?
>>567330606Fanon era
>>567330606Shitbag
I don't see the problem with trying to become the kind of person who will never need help. Of course you will eventually need help but more independence is a good thing.
>>567330606Meta Prime
>>567330606Knowingsmile Era
>>567330773
>>567330387Rouge is close.
Westfags are awful lol the writers do something stupid with their own character and then they blame sega for it.
>>567330606Sonic's renaissancehaters will tell you otherwise, but in a few years then will look back this post and they will be forced to agree
>>567330773These people just hate the idea of paragons or people just being good. Everyone has to be secretly terrible or problematic. Pure examples of excellence makes them feel inadequate.
NOOOOOO SONIC NEEDS TO BE RELATABKE AAGGHHH
>>567331165But why would SEGA use the shitty version instead of the version more people prefer?
>>567331254Leftists shouldn't write Sonic.
>>567330584He literally begs Tom for help getting home in the first movie. Fuck you mean?
>>567331353??? IDW REDEEMED SURGE. NOT SEGA. IDW.
>>567328207...fonziona is a cool ship
>>567329642
Have you simply tried being a hypercompetent who is steadfast, not emotional, and reliable while also active and athletic? Did you actually try it? You can say it's impossible but name one negative to TRYING it. Go ahead. Tell me right now what's wrong with actually applying this to real life. You can't be perfect? Too bad. Try to be perfect anyways, you'll still improve.
>>567331481Yeah and maybe they should have done their whole mandate bullshit too
>>567331472Rewatch that scene. You'll notice that Sonic doesn't actually ask for help. He demands it.
>>567331553Sonic never said you need to be perfect dumb nigger
>>567331509I demand fanart of this now.
>>567331710Sounds bretty pased of him
>>567331710I was just about to reply with that to another post as a point that it's weird to frame a pure hearted character as demanding helping rather than humbly asking
>>567331745Sonic would accept you for who you are but I won't
>>567331295I am so sick of everyone calling everything relatable as a way to make it seem good. Its so pretentious and frankly tiring.Kids dont need to find a character "relatable" to be inspired by them. Kids dont have enough life experience for half the stuff people call "human" and "relatable" actually relatable.In reality its just edgy teens (or people that never got out of that phase) thinking that making everyone "fallable" is needed in order for them to "not be poorly written" because they read TvTropes at age 12.Its a misunderstanding of tropes and why them being used can be bad. Instead the tropes themselves are seen as good or bad.
Yutta will replace all Sonic shitty friends
You won't unsee it now. Every time movie Sonic needs help he basically makes the other person feel retarded by putting them on the spot and telling them they have to do this and then they do it. He never forms it in a question.
>>567331553Sonic isn't perfect though. He just isn't a whiny bitch. He makes mistakes. Fucks up, but he and the narrative don't dwell on it because it isnt the point of his character.
>>567332098Yuuta will show up in the games as a man and fuck Blobain woman and marry her, as foretold in my dreams.
SoA really aggressively wants IDW to be a thing even though it makes the canon even more complicated.
>>567331926How? It seems to me you have a pretty black and whote idea of what "pure hearted" means.
You are perfect and I love you
>>567332101>You VILL eat ZEE BUGZ
>>567332314Tails to Sonic...
Sonic would love me.Sonic would kiss me.
>>567332248
>>567332261Amy did stand/walk like the image on the right in SA1 tbf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA7DJWSDwg8>Fuck you, this is your fault. You have to help me.>gets rewarded for this
>>567306459Wifey on OP detected.I need to draw more sagey
Mania was a mistake.It validated westies.
THE SONIC SERIES IT'S BEING SOFTENED!NO EDGESWHAT ARE (YOU) GOING TO DO?
>>567332262Nothing about the canon is complicated.You fuckers act like Sonic is some successor to Greek myth or something I swear.
>>567332314perfect you say?
>>567332361>Sonic: Tails that's fucking gay, I knew you were a bit fruity but this is grade A fagshit. Never say that to me agan tails. I fear for how gay you'll become when you hit puberty, you'll probably shine brighter than sun with pure homosexuality.
>>567332314prove it
>>567332536scream pointlessly into the wind
>>567332493YOWZAdamn Sage.... d-do you wanna do something some time?
>>567332493here's another quick one, just for you
>>567332493Do you have ideas?
>>567332484He's right though. Tom shot him and made him lose his rings.What's the issue?
>>567332493everyone needs to draw more b&s>>567332641>sage>doing somethingdoubtful
>>567332536If Sonic media chooses to become shitty, I will ignore it like I always have>>567332567Now here's a perfect character
>>567332542Yeah, we know, IDWbro.
>>567332731KEK
>>567332578The sun AND the wind laugh at you, Tails...
>>567332731s-sagepost and chill???
Gooner the Hedgehog
>>567332542um, it's actually the highest form a literature
>>567332484What would e the alternative. Sonic just begging like a baby because its the generic first thing a writer would think to have a character do in the situation?This makes Sonic feel more distict as a character by having him act in a particular way in the situation.
>>567332669Cute angry Sloth wife. Thank you, anon.>>567332685Nothing special outside of the usual. I gotta stop doing the usual. The usual is good though.
>sonic is mandated to never lose>godzilla is mandated to never losefinally a real fucking matchup
>>567332903he is
>>567333006https://youtu.be/bkfBtZ9UvpQ
>Rolling around at the speed of sound
>American SonicHoly fuck sally! I'm cumming on your cute toes!!>Archie SonicHoly fuck sally! I'm cumming from watching my BVLL breed you like I never could!!>JP Sonic*rapes you*>IDW SonicHEH HEH! Freedom good and even though Zavok filled Amy with Rape babies I will not stop his freedom because one day after beating him he'll stop impregnating everyone I know an love with ooey gooey sexy zeti cummies!!! *loud plapping from Zavok clapping Ass pussy and feeling her pregnant belly*>EU SonicFuck you, pixel brain...
>>567332945Did you know?Coffee sleeves were invented in 1991 -- the same year as Sonic the Hedgehog!
>>567332984>The usualLaying down and staring at the ceiling?>"I gotta stop doing the usual."Maybe a bucket of ice cream would give a motivation to get up?
>>567333006>>567333185>Sonic vs Godzilla It's a tie, both win.
>>567333202>Holy fuck sally! I'm cumming on your cute toes!!Proof?
>>567333202>EUYou mean UK? EU was that one two issues long comic that predicted the Sonic Adventure echidna tribe and the echidna princess
why is 90% of his fanart porn?
>>567333623There’s a 4th sonic comic?
>>567333690Sonic fans will fuck anything.
>>567333690>obscure character>tiny cute male
>>567333732Oui.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_Adventures
>>567333690Flying onahole
>>567333294>the usual Lazing around.>Ice creamSounds cute. What flavor would she like? I'll try doing something later tonight.
>>567333732The french one should be ongoing instead of the American, UK and Japan slop ones
>>567333248being sonic's coffee sleeve...
>>567333732They literally called it "Sonic Adventures"https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-adventures-in-the-claws-of-robotnik/English Fan translation (original was in French)
If Sonic wasn't mandated to lose Sonic IDW would be consistently jobbing and made extra retarded for cheap drama.Instead of giving him a challenge.
>>567332984how about a pic of sage going full on depressed girl failure with her lying in her messy room filled with discarded food wrapper, dirty clothes everywhere, and 14 4chan tabs open on her computer. She is an sthg thread mascot after all
>>567333912>What flavor?Boot to the head! Leaves and twigs.
>>567333248What'd they use before '91? BARE HANDS? Friggin' caveman times...
>>567333998>14 4chan tabsNta which threads/boards? Present company excluded.
>>567332314>>567332567>perfection means you cannot evolve further, so why settle for something as mediocre as perfection?
>>567332567>>567334358That fight was bullshit.
>>567333006>Sonic can only ever hope to have interesting battles on a corporate levelGrim
>>567334256I personally never have that many up, right now I'm just alternating between here and a few threads on /v/
>sega watched the creation of IDW Sonic comics like a hawk>even during the creation of surge>they know things about her edgy creation by Starline on a level nobody else knows>allow her to become sanitized in not only the comics, but the games too
>>567334802Once I had 10. 2 in /vg/, 7 in /trash/ and 1 in /ic/
>>567334896Yes we get it. Now are you going to eat your safe yet edgy slop or not?
>>567334896If the dreaded mandates were as true as Ian and Evan like to claim, they wouldn’t have come up with such a concept, or bitch about how they were forced to make Surge a hero.
Archiefags have brainwashed the fandom into having their mandate autism but we arent ready for the conversation.
>>567334896people get really really upset when you remind them that Sega personally approves all of the things they dislike about the franchise
>>567332335I'd rather fug the bugs
>>567333623>>567333969>everyone claiming Alucion is protoTikal>when she's really femKnux
>>567335081>they were forced to make Surge a hero.They weren't.
>>567334896Edgy yet Safe
>>567334451cell hasn’t been in the anime for 32 years and 4 months, the fight between the two characters could have been more close if cell had his beast form, though even he looks down on it for good reason, cell lose loses his intelligent and speech, as it turns out, metal overlord in generations has silver telekinesishttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/tlEGii2GdxI
>>567335236I meant they would if it was convenient for them. We all know they like to gaslight.
>>567335159>Sega personally approves all of the things they dislike about the franchiseI think Sega does that out of carelessness and neglect rather than active approval. iizuka only cares about Shadow
>>567331553why do you want sonic to be a loser so bad
>>567335281he appears in the super dragon ball heroes stuff, right? i know those aren't mainline but i wonder if they took that into consideration
I am FUCK KING FIONA FOX !!
So where exactly is the timeline section on the official Sega of America Sonic website? Also, where are the character bios?https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog
>>567334512Aisha was 6 years old
>>567335578heroes is non-canon and a tie-in for an arcade game but yes he does show up in heroes
>>567335569Did IDWfags not pay attention in English class? How do they not know the idea of a static character?
>>567335685Oh right, there's a language option on the main Japanese site.
>>567335667>FUCK KINGAlso known as Scourge. Not all fuckings were made with consent.
>>567335578they did, it wasn’t enough for cell for him, as to the reason why he didn’t appear in the anime, he was just too different to animate, those fight scenes even more so, cell just had an over complicated design to draw
>>567335250I see literally nothing wrong with this.
>>567310561I swear this had to be a boss battle they ran out of time to implement. Twice.
>>567335962It’s embracing a paradox.Pretenses of something more significant when it’s all a false hope.A failsafe if another 06 or Lost World happens.
>>567335159Evan already outed that it's not entirely true.
>>567336058I dont know why people think this. I was surprised when people online thought this. Reminds me of the people that thought Infinite was Tails.
>>567336176my point is that if sega didnt approve of anything they were writing they do in fact have final say on what gets released, its not like IDW is sneaking shit under their noses specifically to spite people on /sthg/
>>567336143I think youre attributing a lot of junk to it that it isn't implying.
>>567335776They don't understand that this is an ongoing franchise and this "development" they're asking for is for a story with a conclusion. Sonic doesn't have a conclusion. The series is supposed to go on as long as possible.
Thinking about it, the death of the handheld console has been a real killer for Sonic.We used to get some interesting spin off games on like the DS and PSP and sure they weren't all great but there were still some high spots like Rush.Now we have to wait 5+ years between games and subside on fucking kart racers or mobile slop.
Dr Robotnik is masturbating
>>567336370If you refuse to see nearly 35 years of little ups and many downs as anything but that then go for it.
>>567336360>its not like IDW is sneaking shit under their noses specifically to spite people on /sthg/*whistles
>>567336394Maybe if technology advances enough we’ll be able to go back to pocket sized handheld consoles. Ironic.
Peak gayming
>>567336394They could always do all that for the Switch (2). It's an underpowered console anyway and leave the bigger games for other consoles.
>>567336360See picrel.
>>567336520Well isn’t that still Sega’s stamp on the product, and thus their fault?
>>567336394>Thinking about it, the death of the handheld console has been a real killer for Sonic.Not just Sonic. Its been bad for gaming in general. Everything needs to be some AAA game with 10 years of development now.
>>567336683Eating a spoonful of honey and imagining it's what her pussy tastes like
>>567336519What does this have to do with what we were talking about.
>>567336758The Switch 2 has the general power of a PS4.That’s when shit started hitting the fan for game development.I think even Nintendo said lol shits going to get hard for us at some point because of this too.
>>567336770and yet if they did something sega were unhappy with they would be on a MUCH tighter leash
Does someone have that image of Silver with a dog and Honey
>>567336941I’m calling out beautiful ignorance.
>>567336792Why are you so obsessed with absolving IDW writers of accountability?
>>567336758Unfortunately, the Switch is a prime platform for all third party games, not just Sonic - Big userbase who are more likely to invest into mascot platformers than PS5/XBOX users.Which is actually a shame, because they could try to do something different with the Switch's mechanics.I don't know what, but it's a shame we've lost out on unique concepts.
>>567336394>>567336794The problem isn't handheld gaming dying. It's because they simply refuse to make budget games. They can do things like Sonic 4 but instead choose to do live service slop and big games
>>567337110I just see Sticksposting. Real talk.
>>567337114Because the people that are in charge of keeping the writers accountable aren’t doing their jobs apparently.
>>567335281>metal overlord in generations has silver telekinesisthis is clearly teasing something for the next game the same way Shadow has Kronos island stuffs for the Deluxe edition
>>567337286In what sense?
>>567337264Enjoy your ignorance. You won’t have it in the next few years.
>>567335578They only used what they considered "primary canon" for Cell and Metal, so no Archie and no GT, but yes anime filler and yes IDW.
>>567337102This?
>>567337581Yeah this one
I want to be Honey
>>567337040Most of time, the characters are written out-of-character in the comics. Sega isn't keeping the IDW writers on a leash and are just letting them do almost anything as long as the comics continue selling
>>567337483Because Sega is approving things without quality control.
>>567336683I, Honey the Cat, am, quite frankly, tired of seeing these edited photos of me!I had Mr. Miles Prower model for me ONCE! It was a fashion-line that was age-appropriate! I have NOT had sexual relations, nor do I think of him in that way! Our relationship is strictly professional, and the earnings were to our mutual benefit! The emotional distress and mental toll of these false images that mischaracterizes my character has impacted my work! As such, I demand they be taken down! Failure to comply within three business days will be met with a summons to a court of law!Hey! Are you LISTENING? I said I'll sue you! Where do you think you're going?
>>567337581That’s some dog. Did they fuck?
>>567337261The lack of "AA" games is disappointing, especially when supposed "AAA" titles don't live up to the wait. No wonder the industry is in shambles.Smaller games in shorter time frames would do wonders.
>>567337730Yes. The dog had a great time with Silver
>>567337725Because people keep saying its good.
This is proof God exists because he likes to see me suffer due to my gaming preferences.
>>567337649I want to be ninja
>>567337730Silver and Honey? Yes.Silver and dog? No.Honey and dog? Yes.
>>567337649Are you a boy?
>>567335281 (me)>metal overlord in generations has silver telekinesiswhich I might add, confuses everything further, the only time metal had met silver was in both sonic rival games, meaning it’s canon, shadow generations having emerl in an cutscene making sonic battle canon as well, if sonic rival were not canon in any capacity, that would imply silver fight neo metal disguise as sonic, which is something neo metal had done, it didn’t matter is neo metal lost or win to get the emerald, he would have still got silver’s bio date
>>567337728>I have NOT had sexual relations,Virgin the Cat
>>567309582fake and gay
>>567337997im an AGP CHAD
>>567337846Yes and the opinions of the masses are not the wisest.Sega shouldn’t listen to them and doing so is a bad thing
>>567337785everyone wants sonic adventure 3 but I want sonic advance 4
>>567337728Honey is NEVER getting past the Tails allegations
Im trans btw
>>567338060I'm going to peg you
>>567338058NTA but the British Sonic comic sure had unmistakable, unique and consistent style.
>>567337678But the comics aren't selling.
>>567338209*plaps (You) instead*
>Honey pegging you and using Honey as a lube
>>567335281>>567337324>has psychokinesis>uses it to grab shit to throw at Shadow>instead of using it to just grab ShadowThis doesn't even have the excuse of the fight being impossible to win because Shadow can warpWhy even use random debris as a ranged attack when you have missiles that can immobilize Super Knuckles?
>>567335281>>567337324>>567338026>metal overlord in generations has silver telekinesisHe does?
>>567338419>missiles that can immobilize Super Knuckles????
>>567338060Based, and I mean that too.
>>567338505 yeah, it takes an full lap around the stage for it to happen, metal overlord heals as well to top it off, as seen in this video >>567335281
How would Shadow react to Rouge making out with Maria in White Space? Unironically.
>>567338505>>567338419he is "healing" by just taking more nearby metal. So it's hard to tell if it's actual telekinesis or not
>>567338552Suicide is based too
>>567337581Is there mord of that?
>>567338897Uh no
Shadow can use telekinesis in Sonic Chronicles. Metal Sonic copied it from Shadow because Shadow just always had that ability but barely uses it. Chronicles is canon again. Expect Shade's return soon.
>>567338060So a man?
>>567339012Charmy is destined to become a femboy.
*Turns you on*
>>567339019Yes it is. It’s based in underlying mental and physical problems, like gender dysmorphia.
>>567338269Hmm. Thats all you got huh...
>>567338873It's probably based on how he was able to manipulate metal to transform into Metal Madness in Heroes. Sega was probably lazy and just used Silver's telekinetic moveset from the base game for it.
Honey PLEASE, not the CHAINS
>>567339134yes I have no interest in transitioning in reality
>>567338873We've seen what that looks like when he transforms in Heroes, none of the Egg Fleet scrap looks like blue energy is surrounding it.Also, why use scrap to heal? He must have Chaos' biodata, so why wouldn't he just reform the damaged parts? He can liquify his metal body and reshape it into Eggman's or Sonic's.
>>567339142
>>567338267That's true but Sonic Team still refuse to properly supervise the writing for the comics. That's how we got Redeemnic and UWUver
>>567339513You're putting more thought in this than Sonic Team did (who just love resusing assets and selling them as a brand new game).
Which Sonic girls are likely to be tops or bottoms?
>>567339142I'm horny now
>>567339648Those are both from early IDW back before they were treating IDW as canon.
>>567339721SurgeSurgeSurgeSurgeSurge
This is what black hedgehogs look like.
>>567338873factoring sonic battle game where shadow can heal using chaos energy, and your own post, no one can say for certain which holds truth, omega confirming that metal overlord has shadow’s bio date, in the boss battle, metal overlord isn’t affected by chaos control since he had copied it in sonic heroes, though that doesn’t make sense as how he has the ability to be immune to chaos control, unless the bio date that gets copied gets stronger with time, as neo devil doom used chaos control on shadow, only for shadow to get out of it seconds later, omega and metal overlord foreshadowed this would happen
>>567339761ANON! This is a BLUE Board!
>>567339156Oh you take everything to extremes.How boring
>>567339137Charmy is destined to become my husband
>>567339721Top vs Bottom or Dom vs Sub?
>>567339648>That's how we got Redeemnic and UWUverAnd Vegetadow. Don't forget Vegetadow.
>>567340041Cream...
>>567317186The Mario Brooklyn backstory originated from the games, though. Yoshi's Island just retconned it.
>>567310637
>>567339912So if you harness Chaos Control, you cab resist it or break out of it?
>>567339721Honey is an anal-only power bottom
>>567340054Vegetadow is a meme. It was just Ian being a hack writer.
>>567340053Yes.
>>567339836What about now that Sonic Team is treating rheumatoid arthritis comics as canon? Is the writing properly supervised now?
>>567270785Some of these are great. I have too much Shadow porn now I wish I had someone to share it with.
>>567340195This>>567340250Convinced this was Ian's idea.
>>567340518>selfposting(You)
>>567340023>How boringYou hate Sonic.
>>567340510 (me)What is that autocorrect even doing? I meant to say the IDW comics
>>567340658More than 1 person thinks Shadow is hot.
My girlfriend wants me to cum in her, should I do it Sonic?
>>567340510>>567340695Fuck if I know. Probably.
>waaaaah my least favorite media is "canon" waaaaaaaaaahjust consoom something else?
>>567340676Yes?It’s the only natural conclusion after playing Sonic Jam Games.Com
>>567340865>marries tails
>>567340865Which Sonic girl is mostly likely to crack?
>Mephiles returns>His dialogue is just repeating himself from 2006>Neo Metal, Biolizard and Black Doom get new dialogue or interactions>Appearently this was in the original script Flynn was co-writing, with minimum rewrites from his partThis was dissapointing.
>>567340250that would be correct, since we only have 3 user of chaos, sonic’s not all that adapt with it, metal overlord, by extension, neo metal, neo devil doom who was able to prevent shadow from using chaos control to stop time, and there’ shadow, who broke free from it in seconds, not as good as metal overlord, as soon as shadow uses chaos control, metal overlord immediately counters it to move while it’s active
>>567340865>15 years of developing and countingThat so called game is just a scam to milk kids their parents's money, isn't it?
>>567340830What explains this then? Isn't Sonic Team also supposed to supervise the writing of this book?
>>567341029Lanolin.
>>567340846IDW wants to be the face of the franchise and wants everything you consume to be based on it as its endgame.
>>567341053>Shadow Generations includes games released after the original Generations>Shadow ends up in Sonic Forces, but Infinite isn't seen>Shadow ends in Sonic Frontiers, but Sage never notices him>Shadow doesn't end in the Lost Hex and meets Zavok
>>567341259She needs someone to help relieve stressWhere's Duo? He was always up for it but I haven't seen him around here for monthsMaybe that's why she's so on edge
>>567340846>getting upset at things you made up that no one said
>>567341053Mephiles' encounter was supposed to echo how Shadow didn't remember him in 06 due to timey-wimey shenanigans.
>>567341053>lost hex >the deadly six/yetiwhat an bunch of fucking jobbers, there’s nothing to know about the lost hex, is it their home? hell if you or anyone knows, just by looking at them, you can already tell what their personality is, zavok had all that life energy from the lost hex, still lost to sonic regardless
>>567339998Why are you RED?
>>567341173They believe this is what we want for Amy.
>>567341173>girls liking boys is problematicMaybe Japan gave up on fixing their birthrate
>>567341320>The Chaos Emeralds are extraterrestrial in origin>The Chao are descendants of space goyim, due to the golems>Shadow is created from an alien hive mind>The Babylonians are space genies
>>567341320I don't think the stuff in Generations actually directly affects the timeline. Everything is kinda left in a flux in White Space and fixes itself after the Time Eater is defeated.
>>567341635This is not what we want. Why does Sonic Team keep doubling down despite the fans vocally opposing it?>>567341702Amy's love for Sonic isn't removed in the Japanese versions of the games and other stuff. Only in the English version. This book didn't get a Japanese release either
The biggest mystery in Generations was the absence of the classic chaos emeralds.
>Sonic was made to appeal to little boys in the 90s>His main demographic is people with autism>Sonic and his friends should dieIs he right?https://x.com/SubsonicSparkIe/status/2056054031143903676?s=20
>>567341929>This is not what we want. Why does Sonic Team keep doubling down despite the fans vocally opposing it?There are people fighting back against us that dont want her love for Sonic downplayed/removed.
Hey guys look at this AI furfag.https://youtu.be/eZnfA855ZQY?si=erkTFg9e_reqyRcV
Why is this game so unapologetically shit?
>>567341732>Blaze is a princess from another dimension>Silver is from 200 years in the future of Sonic's world>Somehow, Blaze ends up in Silver's future>Eggman Nega is from 200 years in the future>Somehow, he ends up in Blaze's world and makes something of an empire thereI'm just surprised none of these three are aliens. Yet.
I think amy not loving sonic anymore is a good development
>>567342047There are people fighting back against us that dont want her love for Sonic downplayed/removed.Are you saying you want Amy's love to be removed or am I misreading your statement?>>567342136Hi Ian
>>567342067>RandomFox being called the fake fan in response*Chuckle*
I think Amy loving Anon is a good development
>>567341732>Fang originates from an alternate dimension known as subspace
>>567342118Eggman Nega should be retconned back to his dimensional backstory now that Sage makes his future backstory completely and utterly obsolete.
>>567342118Blaze is alien to Sonic's world, she's just extra-dimensional instead of extra-terrestrial.
>>567342245i am not ian but i agree with what he tries to do
>>567342245I am saying that people like us dont want it removed. There are people that do and they are speaking out against us.
>>567342447Well, she is not extraterrestrial.
>>567342314Anon wouldn't accept sloppy seconds... would he?
>>567341929>Only in the English version.Political localizers win againRespect and tolerance not being one of their virtues
>>567341929>We?You French?
>>567342535If anon won't take Amy, I (anon) will
>>567342067>Fox's voiceThat's what he sounds like? Jesus.
>>567342491You're part of the problem>>567342493>There are people that do and they are speaking out against us.The people doing the are literal faggots. See picrel>>567342542I despise them so much. Amy's love was also removed in the English version of Frontiers but was kept in the Japanese version. I'm not buying another Sonic game until Sonic Team stops messing around and letting these hacks get away with what they're doing
The kitty-cat tells me to burn things.
>>567342943>the problemsolution*
>>567342943>Sonic Team loses one clientOh, what will they do now?!
>>567342943>Ian Flynn>3 positive games in a row>4th on the wayYeah Ian's absolutely gonna have his way
I'M A WOMAN! I'M REFINED AND ELEGANT LIKE A DELICATE FLOWER, YOU ASSHOLE
>>567343036Nothing, because I'm making 100 more issues of IDW Sonic to put him in his place!
>>567342943>I'm not buying another Sonic game until Sonic Team stops messing around and letting these hacks get away with what they're doinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E
>>567343036You do realize multiple people hate what the English version has done to Amy, right? It's not just me
>>567342115Because it's canon.
>>567342943>like Blaze and Rougewhew
>>567343323OOOOH NO! Some losers hate how a kid's videogame is written because of one minor character. What will we do now? It's a tragedy!
Amyfag, explain the difference between JP Omega and EN Omega or you're not a true JPfag, only a Twitterfag that doesn't actually care about the Japanese version of Sonic, and only upset because your ship isn't being catered to anymore. You do care about ALL Western mischaracterization, right?
>>567341930Why would you assume there were two sets?
>>567343451>minor characterAnon, I don't know how to tell you this... You may want to sit down.
>>567343246
>>567343552>Anon is pretending Amy is more important than she actually is
>>567343231
>>567343013Schizover…
>>567343552*posts the thing*anyways...
>>567343498Yes, I care about all western mischaracterization.
>>567343804>Only liked a bit more than EggmanThis is just sad. And embarrasing that Eggman is so low.
>>567343804>Eggman is a minor characterNo way! I can't believe this!
>>567343919>Eggman is a minor characterHow old is Eggman?
Earth shaking plaps
>>567343804Picrel is a bad argument because even though Tails and Knuckles are very popular according to it, Sonic Team in practice only cares about Shadow and Sonic being written correctly
>>567344029Hyoumaru does a REALLY good Silver
>>567343994Let me check>Under 50Fuck you mean "under fifty"?
Everybody, please listen. Sonic Team is in shambles, as one random nobody in 4chan won't ever buy their products ever again. They lost their one source of income, please press F to spit on their grave.
>>567344331F
>>567343994Well that one Sonic CD concept art had him pretty old (possibly an injoke) but that got scaled back after Sonic Adventure 2 since wasn't born yet when the ARK disaster happened 50 years before.
>>567344331FWould've lived longer if your games weren't so shit.
>>567344404That's his Classic age clearly, they made him younger for the Modern era.
Why was Shadow so useless during Forces?
>>56734440460+ year old man fights a teenage hedgehog
>>567344760Shadow is a shit character
>>567344331S
>>567344294Great. Now pick up your phone for the next set of instructions.
>>567344790grown aaah man with 15 yo opps fr :skull:
>>567344760They needed to protect his image from the plot so they let everyone else fall into despair and get abused by it
>>567344930sir yes sir
>>567345120>>567345120>>567345120
>>567344404He's probably around his late 40's then since JP Eggman talks like he's supposed to be an older fellow.
>>567344760infinite had teleported shadow 6 months into the future, that explaining his absence during all that time, not like you would know that, clueless fuck>>567344858>t. eclipse the darkling
>>567342118>and makes something of an empire thereYou made this up
>>567343498I call it Ian Omega but Ian Omega is less Blunt formal robot with an assuredness of his own superiority and more just meme daka bot.
>>567310836they should kiss
>>567341063Sonic is innately better/more powerful at using chaos energy than Shadow is. In base form--he kept his dimension alongside the sol dimension from being destroyed by controlling the Emeralds in Sonic Rush.
>>567341930that would only further complicate stuff, multiple sets of chaos emeralds >>567348501right, forgot about the lesser known sonic game that are part of canon, the chaos emerald themselves might helped with sonic by making it easier for him to do it, probably, the emeralds are sentient as well
>>567343521>two Sonics>two Tailses>two EggmenWhy wouldn't you
>>567325702
>>567327729>Winni-italian, never talks in most games, no personality, friend zoned by peach, bower’s cool
>>567349586because the emeralds are specific in how they work? they able to warp time and space
