Rem Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>567319778
>>567407828Kind of but Silver is way bigger with trannies than even Celeste
we need a fat naked guy
>>567408424sex rat edition sex with the sex rat
Billy bros... I'm tired... every game I just fucking melt even with all the counter items in the world.I might just become a meta fag and spam gun bebop or victor. Why shouldn't I when every lobby has dynamo anyway.
>>567408636We already have Dynamo.
>>567408636who sleeves Rem
>>567408763You just don't know the build
>youtube videos: "tips to hit Eternus">get sinners>last hit soul orbs>parry meleeIs that really all it takes?
Why are twittoids expecting a content patch in mid may? We're like a month or two from actual patch date. Not to mention yoshi would give multiple days heads up.
>>567409319wow if sinners is that impactful then rem should be like the best character in the game or something
>>567409343Coping that a miracle will happen that will fix this shit patch
>>567409319it's criminal how often sinners are left untouched when they're worth like 1 creep wave each
>>567409343Patch feels so bad that you have to convince yourself a patch is coming any day now
>>5674088671. He's not fat his body is just literally built like that because of a black hole2. He's not naked
>>567409319>parry meleeDishonest.
>>567408424Now that months have passed, was picrel accurate?
>>567409319get boosted by cheaters because you care more about winning in an invite only unreleased game
>>567409867Yes t. Silver enthusiast
We need a hero that low IQ pedophiles can play.
>>567410275venatort. venator main
>>567410275Dynamo and Kelvin already exist though???
>>567409867>RembabiesRem got overbuffed, on release he was the most high IQ hero of the 6 simply because his entire power budget was on shit that you needed good macro and pathing to utilize
>>567410275What about a hero for high IQ pedophiles?
>>567410567Molest & Kill
Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range.
Climbed from the bottom of initiate to this. Pretty happy.
>>567408763Build?
I have a strong desire to troll and run it down despite being a good player with a high winrate.
>>567411874A song as old as time, Beauty and the Beast~
>>567409680but his soul is stored in the head
>we can't win with this hazesays viscousHe was right.
>>567408763>Lane is a total coinflip since parry spamming is hard to punish early>Die like a bitch against half the cast late game since you don't have any built in defensive layers and blasted only grants a measly 150 hp heal (temporary btw) per light meleeIt's not a great time for the goat. It's so fucking hard to slip in meleed without getting randomly parried.
>>567412363literally how
>>567412490>tanking well>oops did you just use your gulps passive?>get randomly parried and melted>you silly billy you should've been playing the fat character with 3 stamina base (for some reason) a teleport that can teleport everyone around you and cleanse their debuffs, restore your stamina and charges while having a game winning ult
Ever since playing this game with friends I can't play it alone anymore.
>>567405621>>567407968okay actually the order doesn't matter it's more-or-less the same effective %maxhp damage either waythe effective max hp damage from 75 bats isn't 55% though, it's closer to 35-40% if i'm not retarding my numbers75 bats approach an asymptote of like 53% max hp damage if you have literally zero spirit power (and that's against targets with comical HP numbers. against normal HP it caps out at ~48%)that's kinda nitpicking though, regardless her T3 ult IS pretty insane. it's a pretty massive damage spike. in the mid game, against a target with spirit res, you can expect roughly half of your ult damage against the target to be from the CHP damage. the more EHP they have, the more your damage will be from the 1% CHP on-hitbut the inverse is true as well. and as such it probably shouldn't be your first T3you should grab it when the enemy HP starts getting above the 2k mark and/or when they start building spirit res
>>567406413Np m8>>567406464Yeah, seven's ult isn't as much of an instant kill with CC, also the bats swerve around cover a little>>567406530Yeah I'm saying it should have a longer CD>>567407968Either way it does way too much and can stack easily making it do even more damage, needs a nerf if they want a lower CD
>>567408763>Not tanky enough to play as a strict frontliner>Not enough damage to compete with m1 carries >No utilityDunno why you'd ever pick Billy tbqh. He's only good if he's overturned, and right now he's weaker than shit
>>567412917>okay actually the order doesn't matter it's more-or-less the same effectiveYeah so the point still stands, YOSHHHHIIIIIIII>it's closer to 35-40% if i'm not retarding my numbersi used this formula>HP after n hits=Max HP×(0.99)^nn=the number of bats, so (0.99)^75≈0.471, 0.47x100= 47% then we subtract from your max HP which is a 100% giving us 100%-47%=52.9%Idk if that's accurate since i may have also retarded my numbers but as you said it's close so none of this matters
>Playing Doorman, doing the usual support team and trying to open space up for my team>We lose a walker kind of early and some people on my team are having a rough game, but my victor has been farming alone and is very ahead on souls>Press tab>He's building spirit victorWe lost the match
dog
>>567415097>restorative locketYou disgust me.
>>567413768I think he can work fine, but his blasted's final upgrade needs a substantial buff or rework because it does nothing to help you survive the late game rape festsMake it so you're immune to parry stun, but every parry you hit reduces the duration by 2 seconds or somethingAnything would be better at this point. Late game you just stack as many resists/actives you can while praying your team follows through your ult, there's little else you can do.
Here's your enemy comp for the day sir. You like?
>>567415430>item that gives stamina for hero that wants to chase people downwow
>>567415789gg shake my hand go next
>>567415032ahh i got my numbers via python, by setting up the values and then just stepping through each hit of damage. so my lower numbers come from including the flat damage hits against varying enemy max HP valuesyours make sense though, that's the asymptote i was approaching when the enemy max HP was set in the millions and billions (i.e. where the flat damage vanishes and the damage is ruled exclusively by the 1% CHP damage)
>>567409867>GravesgroomersShe's 18.000000000000001 years old
>>567416085We won against them. Mostly because of Lash and Shiv however so at what cost I guess lmaoPraying for a patch soon because this meta is gay and retarded.
>>567416458Basically a thumb sucking toddler.
>>567416523Yeah this meta isn't fun, I have taken a break from the game. Shiv, Mina, and Celeste going around being totally unkillable unless you have 3+ people on them, Victor being able to just run down objectives because they are made of paper and he has 2 health bars, Venator being awful due to overpowered movement, Dispel Magic being a required item in every match, comebacks being basically impossible, it just isn't fun.We still have broken bullshit like Mirage and Wraith too.
I'm installing aimlabs, maybe that will fix me missing 80% of shots
>>567409867apollo is a canonical chud and therefore the only winner in the lore and ingame because hes an overtuned piece of shit
>>567416458>
>>567416942Right now it feels like you have zero agency if you don't play carry or the S+tier heroes like Dynamo, Mina, Kelvin, shiv etcMost of my billy games I feel like a legit NPC, even with a 60% winrate.For my billy bros, you need to accept you aren't the main character. Sometimes you're going to ult and get gang raped. Pray that's enough and your team cleans house.
>chief prepping bull on the other team>stam mastery and counterspell so he is basically impossible to catch because he can just airdash halfway through the map in half a second>entire team buys spellbreaker and just ignores him in teamfights
>playing with friends >A foid joins >She plays like shit >Only plays Mina and Haze, can't aim>Feeds everytime >Have to lane with her >Delicately state that she is bad and should play supports >Get dogpilledI hate women so much
>>567417901You're just building him wrong.
[Heartbreaking] Ivy is not real.
Its insane how good Silver is but you would never know it because there are no less than 7 infinitely more problematic heroes atm
>>567417456voltaic is your frienddefault scenarios are piss-easy ego-strokers
>win>ride the high and queue up>lose>rage queue>repeat ad infinitum Man fuck this gameIm never getting through my backlog am I
i love victor
>>567416458Who cares.If she is 14 - I'm 14
JANNY JANNY JANNY JANNY!!!
>>567417687He also gets to plap Graves' clean shaven cunny before and after each match
I wonder what the thought process was behind making Victor the most uncontested GUNHITLER hero in the game that can melt anything he holds m1 at
>>567409319Actual tips:1) Learn how to play the game reasonably well.2) Be a metaslave and only play the broken heroes of the current patch.
God, everyday it becomes more clear that Valve hates objectives and refuses to let them do any damage to players. It'd be so simple, and it'd be an actual good change, but retards hate change.
>>567420831I mean they do damage to players, just not a lot of damage.
>>567420893Nah man, it's fucking negative damage
>>567420452>Sir, sir! People are complaining about Victor farming AFK for 30 minutes and then becoming an unkillable nigger who just holds W and melts everyone near him with zero skill!>Don't they know to buy Inhibitor and counter his 20,000+ worth of items with a single 6,400 buy?>No, sir, they're building pure spirit nuker>Fine, we'll make him a M1gger so he has to aim at least>Sir, sir! People are complaining about Victor farming AFK for 10 minutes and the-
>>567420452>>567421096i miss afk farming victor so much
>>567421202Spirit Victor was the best version of him, yes his late game was a raidboss but he was a minion until the 40k-50k powerspikeNOW HE'S STRONG IN EVERY STAGE OF THE GAME Amazing balance choices.
>>567421410and u dont even need good aim a retard like me can just run it down objectives and take shrines super fasthe doesn't even use his 2
Idk this entire "gun is too strong" discourse is just larp. It's not exactly "fun or exciting" to watch Lash players hide on the roof, and squish you with tank buster reverb spirit burn for 70% of your life in 1 slam flog. It's not exactly any more interesting to watch a Victor have 0 gun items, VS having like, 3-4 to reach investment spikes the play pattern of the character is identical.
>>567420452>>567421096>>567421202Victor is just a "bad" design because he's totally binary. Kind of like if Silver was perma wolf form>Binary 1>Team opposing Victor knows how to counterbuy. You play 6v5 for half an hour or more and blitz down as many objectives as you can. Then one or two guys on your team buys antiheal shit to cuck him with>Binary 2>Team opposing Victor plays like it's a 6v6 even though one guy on the enemy team is all but afk for the first half hour of the match and you can easily get a snowball rolling in that time by raping Victor's teammates repeatedly/raping him and taking his unsecured souls because he's guaranteed farming shit in jungle. When the Victor gets close to buying all his core items and forming Exodia, nobody buys antiheal and then multiple people type in All complaining about how bullshit Victor isI fucking hate characters like this
I’ve been queuing in street brawl for a week now.Am I ready for a regular game?
>>567422078The more street BROOL you play the worse you get at the main mode
>>567422078The best way to learn is by doing.
>>567421980problem with gun victor is that with SPIRIT victor, yeah his entire kit is now worthless if you get antihealbut with gun victor? getting antiheal is now 1/5th of the battle; you're still going to have to get anti-gun items too to play around his stupidly fucked gun that scales extremely well with boons
>>567422109Shit. Really?What should I do then?
>>567422271Play main mode
>>567422239Antiheal does nothing to gun victor funny enough, like that other anon says. I guess you could buy it for his 1 but lets be honest it has way less impact compared to if he actually bought lifesteal like infuser.
I'm asking again for you all to stop banning Doorman. Another day of not being able to get a single game with him as my top prio. It wears on me.
Gun isn't too strong, green items are. And if you want to kill people stacking green items (read: literally everyone, even m1s are running dispel fury trance siphon etc) you need to build gun.Nerf green items and vitality breakpoints, spirit characters will be able to kill people again, and then gun will naturally become weaker due to the meta shiftIf they nerf gun right now despite shiv abrams Viktor face tanking entire teams I'm gonna freak
Even with enhanced Recharge and enhanced Cooldown, McGinnis turrets are simply worthless. Are people really fucking scared of this shit? Do they not know how to shoot turrets?
>>567422943the worse doorman can do is keep putting you in gay baby jail for failing the obby. who's having a melty over doorman instead of banning actual rape characters
>be playing yamato>spiritvictor decides to walk into a sidelane little underground cuckchamber with me after I enter critical>we both can barely damage each other>heal to full with my 3 while he slowly diesI can do it to turret mcginnis while making her use all her charges too btw
>>567423019>implying there is a difference between M1 characters and spirit charactersthey're all split damage sissies. venator is the only true gun character and he fucking sucks after the second gutshot nerf
Imagine if Mina smelled your cock RIGHT NOW. What would she say?
I dontcar what she would say she's a nigger
>>567424316>Gutshot (and venators only dueling potential) completely raped by a 1600 >Ult tickles since everyone has 4k hp at 25 minutesCrazy how hard he's fallen off
>>567417901Billy is awful because he is forced to interact with the worst systems in the game (movement and melee) while being bad at both of them.
>>567423937>"the character that tops damage in nightshift and one of the highest prio characters in the game right now is actually le bad!"
>>567424646You don't know about venator rape until you see one get their gutshot counter spelled and then their followup parried
>>567424646That's what happens when you are bad at design. I dunno why people are surprised when Icefrog is balancing the game, he's terrible at balance.
>>567423937doorman is an actual rape character his winrate would be 60% if the le epic RAGEBAIT!!! XD kidnap doorman playstyle wasn't tanking it
>>567424646Crazy that this shit doesn't work against Abrams "for some reason"
>enhanced rescue beam>enhanced healing novayup, it's pocketing a kitten time
>>567425621
The hardest I've ever been raped in this game was by a 40/0 smurf gun Doorman in an old seeker game (level 1 steam account, Deadlock's only got 5 hours played, he's shredded every game in his match history). I wonder what his team thought about it because the rest of them were sort of just existing, nobody else really had kills, and nobody on his team even had assists because he was by himself the whole time
>>567425806Too bad venator has zero spirit scaling of worthBetter off just not maxing gutshot
>tfw a character gets gutted into uselessness for needing ~6000 souls, timing and genuine skill to do something Dynamo can do with a single key press>tfw you need to be pixel perfect with doors and cart otherwise people will either dodge it or not go through the door while shitnamo can hit you with his abilities well beyond what the visuals indicate>tfw every single part of this charactee's kit gets nerfed to the point where he's a mediocre spirit burst while fagnamo gets to be proficient in damage, healing, utility and cc all at the same time
>>567424646I never build this item... when should you build it?
>>567426067you are out of touch with reality if you believe this
celeste is extremely hard to play so it's okay for her to be strong.
>>567425806No, it does not work even without duration extender.
I just want them to get rid of impact damage on Doorman's S1 so I can build Mystic Reverb on him again
>>567426341she should be removed from the game alongside holliday and all movement cheats
>>567426067
>uh oh, we've seen that you have a 70% winrate and are climbing up the ladder>let's pair you up with feeders, griefers and tranniesThank you Valve, very cool!
People playing this game really are pieces of shit
>>567422943lately I see a lot more sinclairs than doorpersons
Doorman hasn't been nerfed enough. It's absolutely miserable to lane against him
DeadslopDeadshlockFlopping Tranny Deadcock
>>567426137Taking in to consideration that it upgrades into dispel, I would build it in to:MinaInfernusShivVenatorBebopSevenGeistMirage
Silverlock
>>567418489i like her gameplay but dont understand how to activate her ultimate when i want itis there some bread & butter combo im missing or what?this seems like something that would make the character less viable if you are an ultlet 99% of the time
>>567426581I'm waiting for them to give me my win already, I'm on a 6 game lose streak and in my last game I was the ONLY ONE on my team to even get kills. Every single walker fell in 15-20 minutes and a Billy/Abrams lane fed the fuck out of the enemy Haze by dying a dozen times each
>>567426001venator has a ability playstyle more akin to a tank buster/bruiser but they shoehorned him into the M1 carry role with his health pool being so fucking bad, killing his up close potential with gutshot nerfs and making all his true damage scale with level forcing him to hyper farm to make him actually be able to hurt people with bullet resist because the best bullet resist removers are up close (hunters aura) or spirit damage only (bullet resist shredder)
>>567426715>that it upgrades into dispelBro... next thing you'll tell me is that Toxic Bullets can't kill on its own.
>>567426778hit your shots
>TTVfag name on my team >Look him up>Zero viewer stream>Ends up feeding his ass offNobody's gonna watch your stream because you're stuck down here in pooplow with me
You motherfuckers load into a game, with zero feelings, you retards don't care if there's an afk, if some is feeding, no one pushes, everyone just fucking farms and rushes back to base as soon as they see an enemy appear despite both of you retards having the same 0/2/1 score but for some fucking reason you let the other guy intimidate you, they do mid boss with zero pressure, no one even pushes, you just turn on your fucking computer, boot up deadlock and """enjoy""" the game by shutting your brain down, might as well just load a bot game and shoot a wall for 30 minutes. God I fucking hate you all.
ngl when euros talk english they have such a high pitched effimienite accent lol
>>567418480The best thing that will happen when Deadlock blows up is the surge of high quality animated Ivy r34.Lae'zel bro btw.
>people complaining about "gunslop" and "spiritslop" for the nth time instead of learning how to properly play the game and counter enemy kits and items
>>567427029bro what games are you getting let me inmy games end up being 4 retards staring down mid 24/7 and taking 4v6 fights without any real objective on the map or some retarded deciding to run it down 1v3 10 seconds before mid boss respawns to throw the game.
>>567427225I'm always the only one on my team to even get counter items
>just buy le counter items!okay i bought the 9 i need to live for 5 more seconds, how do i do damage?
>>567427436>and taking 4v6 fights without any real objective on the mapThat's what happens when you get a huge part of the playerbase being hero shooter players. It doesn't help that the devs noticed this and decided to buff their playstyle by buffing trophy collector (it's no longer a throw item like it was before)
>>567427225ok how do you counter early game apollo/mina
>>567427589>I need to fill half my slots with counter items and gimp my damage because I have a 0/14 Russian Abrams on my team sent by Putin himself to grief my game
>>567420452https://deadlock.wiki/Victor/Update_historythe only changes victors gun got in the last 8 months is to nerf his gun damage and to move the gun buff after reviving from t3 to t1 so (along with nerfing the fuck out of his 1 and 2 and 3) people actually build itvictor has been able to be played in the way he has now for a long time, """the deadlock community""" are just a bunch of morons that think anything that isn't a build a streamer uses is throwing until it kills them and then it needs to be nerfed yesterday. there was literally a guy in these very threads doing echo shard stun seven and all the ecleb retards in their games went "why are you doing this??" until they got it banned shortly after
Just abandoned the game where I went 0/6 on VenatorThought of learning to play him but everytime I get him, I am consistently shit6 games is enough for me to see that I am never picking him ever againFeel bad for teammates, they were winning
>>567427917not really the huge ult buff made it so wallbreaker has like 30% more uptime for suiciding
>>567427643Literally just don't feed. That's it. I'd they aren't farming you on cool down, you just walk over them later. It doesn't FEEL good, but going even is the same as dropping multiple kills in a regular lane.
>>567427643early game:>slowing hex, slowing bullets, weighted shotslate-game:>silencer, indomitable, counterspellearly game:bait apollo into trying to get a pick off of you and introduce him to the rapists on your team when he oversteps his positionbait mina into ulting before taking cover, and then unload all of your slowing/silencing items onto herif you rape them then that they can't get fed, thus they are effectively irrelevant for the rest of the match
>>567427129tell me what to make bejita bro and you'll get it in the coming weeks
>>567427589not dying is a 100% damage increase because you do 0 damage when you're dead asshole + most counter items either give you bonus stats that up damage or spirit breakpoints
>>567427917it's more or less all of the other changes besides victor's gun that make victor gun so viable nowno need to worry about kamikaze'ing a walker when your ult got shortenedno need to worry about utility spirit damage melting your greens when that shit got giganerfedthe only way you can be countered is if they have inhibitor and go full gun as well, but by that point it's already too late and you've raped most of their lanes
>Melee build Abrams runs it down all game
people here have joked about how there's no spirit equivalent for silencer. well there is one character who can give you a similar experience.>witchmail celeste>with greater expo/supdurr/tcd her barrier silences at 18m radius for 4 seconds with a 12sec cooldown, with witchmail you have permanent upkeep, add echo shard in there too if you want>become spirit victor but instead of dealing damage by walking into people, you silence them 24/7signed by seeker-alch3
>>567428116being able to revive more often has nothing to do with his ability to "melt anything he holds m1 at". before you didn't need to revive as often because your 1 and 2 were so much better you were just not dying as often
>>567428273oka so i do 35% more damage and live for 5 seconds longer, how does that stop the wraith throwing cards at me with infinite ammo
>>567428198Ivy creampie while she tail-locks (you). Godspeed.
>>567426067You're right but lets not pretend like bellman isn't pretty fucking strong rn. Kidnaps/baroness were never an issue though. Its just people baseding out over losing to the most interactable CC in the game.
Jesus Christ, 3 supports and a DPS vs 1 support and 2 mega tanks (Haze basically did jack shit)It doesn't show, but I got nullification burst, so slap some extra debuff resist and with Tribute on 24/7 Krill's ult barely even lasts a second
victor being so popular has unironically made me build knife shiv again because victor players all just stand there and eat knives and none of them ever buy dispel for some reason
>>567428513>>>being able to revive more often has nothing to do with his ability to "melt anything he holds m1 at"???>go to walker on lane>almost kill it singlehandedly with your gun>enemy team gets you and you die>oh wait, no you don't, you have ult>>IT TAKES MORE THAN THAT TO KILL ME!>finishes melting le walker>boy! it's a good thing you had ult! none of your teammates were around to help you push the walker anyway!>repeat the same process 2 more times, and can even do this with the mid boss>this happens more frequently now due to the ult cd decrease change
>>567428657My friend's probably what the average player reacts like to CC, if he gets CC'd in any way he either passive aggressively says "oh that's great" or screams "I CAN'T DO SHIT"!
>>567428765ShivGAWDS won't fall for your tricks, Victorkek.
why do shiv players say he's viable, and bet everything on his knife ability, when his whole bleed shtick gets countered by one 3.2k green?
>>567428765They're also great Drifterbait. Yes please, go off by yourself to try to suicide a walker, I will be waiting>and none of them ever buy dispel for some reasonThey're boosted players that build L-R and dispel isn't in those builds so they shant be buying
>>567426715Except it doesn't anymore...
>>567428165thats impossible? if you stand behind your guardian he can dive you can 100% a kill as soon as he has ult
>>567428814yeah that's a cool story you wrote out but again, victor didn't NEED a shorter ult cooldown because he took way longer to die while getting focused because his 1 and 2 were massively better AND his gun did more damage so he could get out of there sooner/kill you even fasterat most you would farm for slightly longer with your insane gun dps before pushing the next walker so you were taking all their towers in 25m instead of 20
>>567426715it upgrades into spellbreaker, dispel magic has no build path and gives no debuff reductionand funny enough dispel i bad against half your list and spellbreaker against the other half
>>567428623ok. i'll look into what is avaliable in terms of assets
>>567429053they made it so you can max your abilities with a noticeably lower amount of money then before, so knife vs dash is way less of a commitment. you can do one then the othereven if you dispel my knives, I have max rage now (or you did it too early and I just throw more knives) so my dash is 600+ damage on a 8s or less cooldown
>>567429185the point isn't that he didn't need it, but that kamikaze gun victor raping your walkers can happen more frequently because of the ult changespirit victor is genuinely useless now compared to whatever he was before, so people are just mindlessly building gun victor, and it's somewhat working as well because victor's gun is too good atm
>>567429512> victor's gun is too good atmit's WORSE then it was BEFORE.
>>567428718>138k healingCan we PLEASE break this disgusting characters kneecaps already. And that guy was probably ass, since maxed ice beam will easily make you a too damage contender
>>567429607and it's still too strong my nigga
>>567429423can't I just... idfk slowing hex your dash and ult as well?
>>567428718>4 healslop characters vs 1 remLOL
>>567429801okay and then what?
>>567430019uhh kill you, presumablyall you really have left is bloodletting
>>567428073They know your score but not your story.
>>567430120so you're going to chase the shiv into a hallway until your slowing hex wears off so he can dash through you 5 times? not a smart idea friend
does anyone have the shiv how low were you image?
>>567430274obviously I am going to back off a bit if I see the shiv trying to bait me into a closed-interiorthis is assuming the shiv is at low health, if he's at full health I'm not even going to bother chasing him for a full minute just so his team can eventually jump me
>indominable screws over a bunch of heros that depend on their ultimates to win teamfights, forcing them to deal with oth the shield before using their most powerful abilities>except the golden child Dynamo, because his Teamfight-winnator 3000 proccs a stun every second and completely neuters a 6.4k itemI don't think I've ever seen such blatant favoritism over a videogame character before
You know, since voice lines are canon, doesn't that mean lore-wise all the heroes consider the Ritual a game?>Good game!>What a game>Well playedLike it's a reality-changing magic contest, winner-takes-all but they all have a really laid-back relaxed attitude towards it
>>567430610I can't remember if silence wave or cursed relic has any effect on dynamo's ult
>>567430610>Official list of characters that will NEVER EVER be bad at any point in the metaAbrams - The face of the game and retardproof frontlinerMaurice and Krilliam - retardproof initiatorInfernus - Third face of the game and retardproof spirit/gun carryDynamo - retardproof "support">DebatableIvy - she was shit for a long time before the buffs but the appears in the current tutorial materials, second face of the gameSheev - he monke
>>567429691To be fair, I'm pretty sure Abrams and Mo healed themselves way more than Rem healed them.
What the fuck is Wyoming
Ok I thought the protection was way closerI thought creeps actually had to be at the base guardians, this gun victor shit is hyper toxic.
>>567431019isn't mo n krill just a worse dynamo atm
>>567431174Mohammed and Kareem have a "fuck you" button for any problematic enemy that is almost always off CD when needed. Dynamo is more of a game-winning ult that needs to be used at the right time, same with his TP.
>>567431157they need to rework how protection works
>>567431019>Abrams - The face of the game and retardproof frontlinerYou haven't met my friend.>Steam name John Deadlock>Profile pic is goofy Abrams edit>Every match typing shit like "ITS DEADLOCK TIME" or "abrams is one of the heroes of all time" or other ledditnigger shit like that>Guaranteed 4 deaths before sinners spawn>Once managed to finish a 30+ minute match 0/11/0, zero assists in a game where assists are gifted to you just for being vaguely near an enemy when they dieNo such thing as retardproof, if he wasn't playing with the rest of our friend group in the same lobby he would be lower than Initiate. As it is we're basically in one of those anime training arc montages where every single game is a 5v6
*approaches you**crawls into your ear*
>go 25-2 on Vyper carrying team>go up 2 ranksFeels good man. I think MM is fixed in that you can go up to ranks if you play really well.
>>567431702Th... th-thank you...
>>567431702>Flies up your urethra and then starts digging its hard sharp little bird feet into your bladder from the insideTHANK YOU!
>>567431829>they do lots of things
>>567431702
Reminder: both "Rem" and "rape" start with the same letter
>>567431562There's literal normalfag, dudebro, CoD-playing, boomer ecelebs like Timthetatman winning games as Abrams. Think about it.
>>567431019>retardproof frontlinerTell that to the 0/14 Russian Abrams that builds melee and repeatedly gets parried and killed only to do it again and again
>>567432401timthetatman is literally top 1% of skill in all the shooters he plays. only his persona is a "normal dudebro"
>MMR is to high to play random champsyep, its time to create a smurf account
I kind of want to play Holiday and listen to country music all day.
>>567432880My MMR is absolutely fucked, I can't escape shitlow no matter what, every other game has someone on my team going 0/10
>>567432929realistically in the real wild west a woman like holliday would get raped and than hung for dressing like that
>>567432401yeah dude, he was really popping off on abrams
>>567430610indomitable is so shit, make so you're immune to what popped it for the duration of the shield at the very least, that way it works with dynamo and you don't get stunned anyway making unstoppable even stronger by comparisonlet see how it interacts with apollo's ult! does it:a) stop the silence and lets all the rest passb) stop the slow and let everything else passc) stop the damage and let everything else passd) completely stop itWRONG, IT DOESN'T PROC AT ALL!
>>567432929https://files.catbox.moe/b6nz3g.mp4
>>567433327SeekerKINGS...
>>567431829>REM NO STOP IT! DONT LET THEM CRAWL DOWN MY UETHRA WTF>"sleep!">NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo
>>567431702AAAAH I'M TURNING INTO POMNI
>>567433369kino
>>567433327seekerGOD... i kneel...
>the mo player is on your team>the haze is on your teamgame is lost and theres nothing you can do about it
>>567432929https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAgAhTnuweohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVGJKx38AHEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYEQ0TkyMEAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wTmmYyZPxwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy-Yixzr85Isend it bud
>>567433340yeah it needs to be like linkins and have a 12s cooldown to be good
>>567431019ivy and shiv have the same problem where not only is their kit just kind of too full of shit it can do so if 1 part sucks you just build something else, they're some of the most popular characters for character sake in the game so there's a "it's ok this character is strong, they're cool" element to itlash also kinda belongs in this zone even if he mostly only does a few things, they had to redesign the whole map multiple times to limit those things because they're so obviously strong
>>567434289it's really funny how having to aim the biggest cone ever made haze that much less of a problem, they really were boosted
>>567433340you can already just counterspell apollo ult on reaction 100% of the time and only take the massively reduced damage his team adds on while you're in anime modeindomitable is for avoiding doorman/mo/haze jumpscares and for that alone I buy it all the time
>Hear the trumpets hear the pipers, one hundred million angels singing
>>567434682did you forget the part where they removed the 2 target meaning a -65% damage nerf with ricochet
>shiv wraith mo bebop on enemy team>need to buy dispel metal skin/disarm and decay/anti heal before I can even THINK about buying any of the items I needso lame man
WHERE'S THE PATCH?
>Silver on team>Buys melee items >Pronouns in name >0/8
>>567435026Mating press
>>567435026we had a patch 2 weeks ago? only horrible shit right now is wallbraker victor
I've literally never seen a gun Geist down here in pooplow, it's nothing but bombslop AOEs that you can just step out of
>>567434798yeah you need to aim, that's exactly what I said, crazy mechanic in a shooter I knowthey don't know how to ult against a solo player either now that it doesn't aimbot
>>567435195Yeah, and we need a patch that removes this emo fag from the game
>>567431732My ranking has gone up more quickly since picking up Graves and winning like crazy on her. I think it also weighs things a bit more if you play a new hero and perform well on them.
>>567434996thats the biggest issue with item band-aid balancing
>Enemy team got Vindicta and MinaHow justified am I to go for Knockdown as my first item?
why is there always something really dumb every patch it was dashfernus (which took no skill) now its wallbreaker victor (same thing) like okay if something takes a lot of skill maybe it should be a little strong but these are literal walk forward metas to slaughter everything this game is becoming more brainless than Overwatch
>>567435195>over 2 weeks with no patchEoS soon
>>567435195>only horrible shit right now is wallbraker victorAnd mobility being gawdlikeAnd everyone being tanky as fuckAnd Mina generallyAnd Dynamo generallyAnd Kelvin generallyAnd GunbopAnd Doorman bells being spamnukesAnd Pocket ultThere is so much wrong with this patch
without making any commentary on her actual efficacy or lack thereof in-game it's always stuck out as odd to me that haze players will depict themselves as the apparent "skill character" in images like pic relatedand then you look at her most effective builds and it almost always comes down to the ult, even with it being nerfed now, her playstyle is just "go invisible, sleep dagger you, press 4 and dump a bunch of actives that turn off your ability to move or fight back"how is that any different than playing molester and krill
yoshi I'm watching the discord why you in hawaii bro that's disrespectful as shit bro
What's caused Graves's winrate to climb back to 50% in eternus? Did someone reveal some hidden tech/build or is it just one tricks being too autistic to let go of her and performing disproportionately well?
>I think this game would be better if everyone was slow and died really fastgo back to cod unironically
>>567436312I can't wait to see the day that Haze's ult is made a skillshot. She's got the most boosted playerbase in the game
>>567436350As pickrate goes down winrate goes up since only the people that REALLY like a character will still play them
Maybe there is a healthy middleground between cod and "green celeste flies across the map nukes you and then pops resto locket and flies away"idk though.
Remove Yamato grapple.
I think this game would be better if everyone was really fat and slow and died really slow due to all of the fat
>>567433369If this isn't AI this is really impressive
>>567436312it's not haze players are delusional monkeysthere's literally only 1 hero that is more braindead than her and it's M&K
>>567436312>holliday being included weith doorman and mohaze players will always be funny yes the squishy character that needs to actually aim her cc (that gets interrupted by almost every single thing in the game and lasts like 1 second if you have any sort of debuff reducers) is comparable to the insta aim cc locks of Mo and Krill that does a ton of damage + gives him max hp if someone kills your target and the Baroness that can turn off any ult and is on a 13s cooldown if they dont check out and on the character that can use doors to escape 90000 km away
>>567436548Her pick rate is also trending positively over the past week. It's still a small sample size though, maybe it's just overly dependent on a relatively small number of dedicated players.
>>567436312truth is all heroes in this game are easy as fuck to play
>>567426001>he hasn't tried pure spirit venator and pretending to be techiestraps have 2.4 spirit scaling
>>567436745>actually needs to aim her ccthe hitbox is refrigerator sized and you throw it out while invisible and the enemy doesn't even know you're there to attempt to juke or dodge your "skill shot" if you're missing daggers past lane phase as haze you have a disability
>>567436950he was talking about lasso retard kun but youre still right besides the invisibility part kek
Haze players always act like tough shit despite being ultbots
>>567436950>refrigerator sizedokay assume so it can also be blocked by your teammates and minions and even if its refrigerator sized you still at the bare minimum have to aim it its NOT comparable to Mo and Krill and Doorman who have to press 4 and just click on you it literally cannot be comparable
>>567410567Those don't exist
We have you now.
>>567433108>>>>realistically Nigger it's a game with demons and vampires, take your pills
>>567437657Come on, Anon.
>>567437657They must be doing something right since they run the world
>pocket is gay!>holliday is a tranny!>celeste has a 3ft long horse cock!Without fail, the only reason I'm ever aware of all the weird culture war shit in any given video game is because some freak is screeching about it on the chan
>>567436289>And mobility being gawdlikethis will never be fixed, tranny movement game. don't like it? back to rivals or wait for the league clone>And everyone being tanky as fuckdepends. some people like high TTK while others don't. I think it's fine, when I'm a fed carry I can melt people within 5 seconds
>>567437754>>567437862I'm being serious, pedos have a proven 20-30 point IQ drop so at best they could be average.
>>567438073none of these are true except celeste having a 3ft long horse cock
>>567437657Bro your Epstein Satanic cabal?Anyways Geist is the Ghislaine Maxwell of Deadlock
>>5674381011) Those are the ones that get caught.2) Do you know how IQ distribution works?
For me peronally, its gun graves. I never played anything other than league of legends and cant do anoying shit like aiming my bullets.My second main is celeste
>>567436350>Did someone reveal some hidden tech/build or is it just one tricks being too autistic to let go of her and performing disproportionately well?It's the latter not the former>What's caused Graves's winrate to climb back to 50% in eternus?Graves can win games and do damage but it's "inspite of her kit" rather then "because of her kit">howJust afk farm and fight 2vs1 or when you're 5k~10k ahead in souls.
>>567438291>I never played anything other than league of legendsThis is like only ever eating poop instead of actual food
>>567431702Helpers bouncing on my dick (they do lots of things)
>>567438214>>567438214Neither situation actively makes anyone inherently smart especially if they were already born into such positions. Nepobabies aren't exactly known for being geniuses. The majority of the people you talk about aren't very smart, just lucky regardless of IQ distribution. The fact that there is a proven drop off in IQ for those is enough.
>>567437736ok? the setting is that the supernatural entered the normal world. but that wouldn't change the people's views on women and minorities during that time. in fact it would probably make them more sexist/racist
>>567436950>the hitbox is refrigeratorIt's not a bebop hook>invisibility retard KING
>>567436460>Your ult stuns yourself>Does fuck all damage, impossible to kill someone solo>40 second cooldown on two of your abilities>Need to be close quarters to do have any impact>One of the most counter-able heroes in the gameMo is Honest, mayhaps not very skilled but he is honest
>>567438443what about a source for these claimsi don't really care one way or another but it seems unlikely conceptually to me
>>567438458>ok?
>>567438583>Newfriend tries Mo>He plays him like Drifter, going off into enemy jungle to ult somebody just to end up dying in a 1v4>Also he heavy melees nonstop and says he wants to try melee Mo
My grandpa has oppenheimers can barely move his body and calls every piece of technology a Jew daemon but he does pretty well on graves he also likes her cuz she reminds him of grandma (rip in peace!)
>>567439017i feel anyone who goes for melee build is a retard
>>567438735They were on pubmed iirc, it's been a few years since I've seen them and I assume they're still up. One was a test that found they were at a significant disadvantage for IQ over control population showing a ~20 something drop in IQ versus control. Another was in regards to having less grey matter than control populations iirc. And as an aside I believe there was a study on a man who gained such issues after getting a brain tumor. I believe there were also some issues with the control group in the first study due to using sex offenders as a control group which had already put them at a lower IQ to begin with making the results seem like there was less a gap than in reality and they used a less vigorous IQ test which usually tests higher than reality versus administering a proper proctored WAIS-IV or equivalent on both control and test groups.Deadlock
>Pedo is when you like someone in the 15 years range nevermind this was the norm or 90% of human history bro just don't think about it or you're a low iq yuh yuhRETARD... RETAAAAAARD... RETARDDD REEEEETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>567439781Torture was also the norm for 1000 of years
>>567433369>nearly 2 and a half minutes of holliday getting carried impressive
>holliday in team>losesasuga
>get 10 killsyeah we eatin' good, ivybros
>>567409091T-they're going to light those candles with that plane shaped lighter, right Anons...?
>>567438073Same except the only people that seem to be talking about it are the browns crying about it.
>>567439984>loses match anyways because deadlock
>>567440357thats how all mobas are dumbass macro wins games not frags
>>567436852Too bad for you...I've been training for this exact moment
>>567438073You aren't wrong but at the same point never once does this ever come up in game. It's /nogame/ porn-addicted, xitter users who parrot this shit on whatever dogshit social media of choice. Even the most "likely" gay shit, Pocket being a they/them, hasn't come up in game for me once despite having close to 700hrs, everyone just calls him, he/him.
>>567440553lollmaono it doesn't, not herepeople will kill a single wave each lane then deathball 24/7 and just fucking win. Oh? You wanna split push? Ha, you're funny, here they all come from green to yellow to rape you for even thinking about it. Skill issue retard.
>>567440803>xitter>social mediaYeah but it should be kept there, the fags bringing it here are the problem
You can tell this game was made by retarded white monkies because they refuse to separate casual and ranked.
>>567441492icefrog is indian
>Character you like starts becoming meta
>>567441492They did, its called brawl
>>567441694>your character gets stolen by meta slaves and is nerfed into the dirt afterwardsits going to happen to Holliday and Sinclair...
What the actual fuck
>>567404685post that to the forums, it's a good idea
>>567442045uhhh shut up its just lane phase its just lane phase the matchmaking is ok!!!!!
>>567442045
>>567442312We got completely stomped.
>>567442045>bombgeist and punchclair vs character who never stays on the ground
>>567442426skill issue why didnt you carry? get demoted-yoshi
>>567442530I got sent down 2 ranks
>>567442045They need to add another face type where your character has gone 0/3 or more recently
>>567442045This game is nearly unplayable now seriously is this a psyop to test mass bot players or something?
>>567426067It's almost like Dynamo is fun to play against and as, while Doorman is a boring clip farming faggot character who isn't fun to play against at all.
>lose one match>drop two ranksCompfags will defend this btw
>>567428073Venator is extremely bad right now because he got nothing but nerfs since release, despite not really being OP. I think he just makes movement faggots mad since if they get near him, he can shotgun them into a wall and make them take damage, so they cry. Same with the traps.
>>567442889I just love how Venator got gutted but Apollo is still there>BUT HE FALLS OOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF LATE GAMEdoesnt excuse him for literally insta killing you with his ult lane phase and having non stop escape tools
I died before I finished charging my power slash
>>567442751I have not had a good match the past 2 days. It's rediculous. Way more smurfs, feeders and gunvictors ruining the match.
what are the characters most similar to Junker Queen and Reinhardt from Overwatch?
Why do people keep running this niggerlicious ivy tesla bullets rush build when your statue form heals 13% max hp percentage on a 15 second cd and you have great lane push potential like make it make sense nigga make it make motherfucking sense, just play gunbop at that point or idk some other m1gger carryI AINT EVEN SAYING DONT BUILD GUN BUT JUST GET THE BARE MINIMUM TILL MINUTE 15 THEN BUILD GUN IS THIS WHY PEOPLE SAY IVY HAS A BAD LANE? BECAUSE THEY JUST BECOME M1 BOTS? IS THIS WHY? I KEEP SEEING IT, AND I NEVER SEE IT HAVE IMPACT, JUST GET THE RECHARGE AND SOME HP BRO, YOU WANT THE HEALING BOOSTER ANYWAY SINCE IT BUILDS INTO HEALING TEMPO, THAT'S LIKE 17% HEAL EVERY 15 SECONDS IN LANE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, ANYONE? CAN ANYONE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, IT AINT MAKING ME MAKE MAKE SENSE? MAKES SENSE???
>>567431462Structures in general need massive buffs, they are all made out of paper and cannot defend themselves from even one or two creep waves without losing most of their HP.
>>567442993Venator is too honest and not movement tranny coded enough so he had to get gutted.
>>567443079shiv and abrams respectively
>>567408424Am I just coping or is Seven nowhere near as bad as people say he is early on? I feel like after escalating + toxic he just rips people apart so easily assuming you don't have trog aim like me
>>567442993venator didnt even really get gutted, he just got scaling very lightly touched. hes always been this shit
>>567443350i see
>>567443413Seven is fairly strong all around but his early game is weak but his mid-late game is super good. But at least he can be easily countered.
>>567443462He lost over .6 scaling on gutshot I believe. That's a ton of damage just gone, with nothing given to equalize it, because having an extremely close range stun on character with 0 mobility and bad dashes made movement faggots that play Celeste and Mina upset.>>567442993No bro you don't get it, it's totally fair that Apollo is unstoppable for the first 25 minutes of the game (ignore the fact that the match is decided in the first 15 minutes)
>>567442596So propeller hat icons is what you're saying
>>567444163Yeah he lost:.2 scaling on Grenade.4 scaling on GutshotEven the traps got nerfed by reducing the base duration and increasing what you get on the tier 2 upgrade (the very last thing you will ever upgrade on Venator)
This is Silver's wishThis is why Silver is participating in the ritual
>>567444594>kisses your eyes
>>567442045>>567442751every single game is like this when I duo, we are expected to babysit 4 shitters who cannot not feed a lane 7-10 kills. too many people are hardstuck above and below their ranks right now. I have one duo that is ritualist who could definitely be phantom and vice versa.
>>567444809I dont even mind that people cant aim or whatever that's fine Im really not asking for my entire team to go 9 0 and 19 or something but there's something wrong with this game right now like its NOT HARD to not feed in lane phase IT DOESNT MATTER if you lose if you're going against a Dynamo Abrams you're probably gonna lose hang back farm break boxes WHY DOES LANE PHASE always end with their carries hyper fed and then they just slaughter the other lanes by ganking it people FUNDAMENTALLY DONT KNOW HOW THE GAME WORKS and will brawl on blue constantly while every single walker gets pushed (even the blue one they're brawling on blue while the wave is being pushed in)
>>567445318>spellslinger on vindinctado you use your ult to keep it up
>spirit res isnt enough alreadywhat the fuck does this game want me to build? 2 6400 items just to deal with a yamato?
>>567445671it was a snipe build i was trying something new ye but I dont usually play Vindicta
im just fucking done trying to play holliday you're so squishy and deal 0 damage for what reason, to have a worse mo ult?
It's another game of >entire enemy team goes for me as rem because I'm running pillow nuke and keep taking out 75%+ health of theirs
guys i really like playing graves
>>567445881Counterspell
>>567445881spell breaker
Yamato is overtuned powercrept garbage
>Do well as Graves >Start getting called a pedoZoomerGAWDS have no other insults...
>>567443087Because capacitor Ivy is one of the biggest powerspikes in the game.
What's the highest achievable rank in this game as an employed person?
>>567446828Some guy on the nightshift has a job is eternus and was able to get on Nightshift you literally have no excuse
>>567442045And people on /dlg/ will tell you laning phase doesn't matterI had a game like this as Mina yesterday where I was the ONLY ONE on my team to even get any kills and some twitch streamer faggot playing Billy died 11 times in lane
Why was I even in this match, I'm ritualist and not even in a duo.
Bought a new pc so I can get angry at this game in higher frame rate.
what the fuck is the point of billyhe has no damage or durability. Even his ult is a shittier version of dynamo on a similar cooldown
>>567446828Just become a famous Twitch streamer to the point where that's your job bro
>>567447161To pull people into dynamo
"hey pause when the game starts Imma go pee real quick">game starts>press p>your team ran out of pauses
>>567447161to laugh at he's the comic relief character both lorefully and gamily
>>567447256>haha lol instead of pissing before i queue up for the game ill queue up for the game and then make 11 other people wait for me!why are zoomers like tihs?
>>567447326I laugh when Billies are on the enemy team I cry when he's on my team
>>567447478I'll stop doing that and now you'll only have to wait 2:30 minutes while you lane swap and not 3 minutes happy now metro?
damn bro I suck lol
>>567446171See >>567436312 , we Haze players think you're on Mohammed and Doorman tier, unlike our high skill character
>"Spirit Victor is bad, only Gun is good">All of spirit Vic's common buys posture him at an S+ tier winrate in EternusHow do you explain this
>yoshi manually flicking between offline and away>experimental patch that went up 30 version numbers was 15 minutes agocould it be tonight?
Benjamin Netanyahu is personally paying niggas to join my games and go 3/16
>>567447256Looks like fart porn ngl
>>567448236Patch never everDead gayem
>>567447057Were you on a lose streak? When I was low ritualist I went on a 3 or 4 game loss streak and ended up in a high alchemist lobby.
>>567448575Surprisingly no but it is anal focused
why is there a set of characters that are never allowed to be bad? when was the last time abrams was bad? meanwhile bebop will be good for exactly one patch every 5 months before getting nuked into the ground
>>567449193I can tell, you don't make that face if stuff is going in your puss puss.
Venator is a fraud character, objectively.
>>567448236>POV you're Icefraud cooking up another series of doorman nerfs because r*ddit told you to
>>567449258Marketing. Same reason Genji and Tracer were never allowed to be anything less than top tier meta pics. In fact it got so bad that the community gaslighted itself into thinking Brig was bad for the game as she directly countered these heroes.Inb4>but thats overshitIt will happen to you.
>mina enemy team: rapist>mina my team: retard
>>567449818>mina enemy team: has a team that plays around her and knows her strengths>mina my team: has a retard in her team that constantly takes her waves and forces fight at the most horrible times
>play doorman but I'm ass at the game>enemy team starts chimping out in chat after their first death which I had only partially assisted inThe hate around this character feels forced. What influencer is responsible for this?
>vyper my team: retard>vyper their team: rapist
>paige their team: rapebait>paige my team: meee :3
Apollo is one horny fucker
>>567450058He's the most overhated character at the moment because he's extremely annoying to play against and genuinely overpowered IN COMPETITIVE. In ranked pubs his power level is fine, he was borderline useless for months and now that his bells actually deal damage again people are rediscovering that he's annoying. Compared to actual problem characters like Warden he's absolutely fine, but most people would rather play agains a genuinely overpowered character than an annoying one that is just good
>>567449038Yeah
>>567449818>mina on the enemy team>presses her ult every 60 seconds>game is constantly 5v6 because her ult is just that busted>mina on my team>saving her ult so she can hit all 6 of them>never presses it How do people still not understand that MIna is an ultbot hero?
>said gun victor was good when he got picked in a night shift a few weeks ago>friends who play victor chimp out at me saying gun victor is trolling and you're retarded>on the 30th patch they nerfed his bullet growth by 5% and made max lvl ult -130s instead of -100s, barely buffed him>today those same friends are sperging out about how it sucks that gun is the only good way to build him and it shouldnt be like thatwell well well
Am I an honest player?
In the past 10 games ive played the team that has the Victor just wins if he just suicides into base. awesome patch
>>567450732some understand too well
>>567451163>diviners i haven't seen a single build reccomend that since affliction went through walls
When the fuck is the next balance patch the game is unironically fucked and has been for ages.
>>567446737"people" say this yet give you the fluoride stare when you say it's an even bigger spike on paradox
Who do I play if I'm bad at aiming?
everytime I play shiv I get rapeddo I just need some secret chinese build for him, because shiv mains SAY he's overpowered, but it feels like my knifes do lickity-dick to health bars
34% of all deadlock porn is of Ivy
>>567442045Silver downplayers, look away....
How would you fix him?
>>567451163>no trans cdBro....>>567451401It's good for Mina lategame because if they're coordinated every m1gger will focus fire on you once you're up in the air.
>>567449789genji and tracer are fun characters to play and play against, unlike abrams. and yes, brig killed overwatch.
my favorite running gag in this thread is that there is never a conclusion on whether silver is s tier or b tier
>>567451708>40% pickrate stillhe's fine, the sample size for "pro games" is so small that its hard to take winrates seriously
>>567451692Can you post the percentage for the others?
>>567451708buff ult to release levels
>>567451708buff his 2
>>567451708increase melee damage and buff gutshot. nerf firerate and reload speed to compensate.
>>567446734i went 21/3 as vin once and the enemy graves said i was in the fileswe lost, somehow
>>567451401secret goated late game survival item for drifter
>>567451661The game changer for me was building res on him. He needs to live long enough to rage in fights unless you're a decaysissy sitting at the back waiting for your rage to hit 100%. He can get away with only 4.8k spirit investment for a long time until they get dispel and you have to dashmaxx because stacking knives is OP, take note how I said "stacking" make sure you have a lot of knives before you go in on someone.
>>567451659Mo & KrillDynamoLash (ignore chuds who say Gun Lash takes aim; it's gonna get gutted soon)
>>567451401because the builds are dogshit and afraid of greens reducing potential dps
>>567451659Mina and Mirage, you just need to hit one bullet every 10 seconds
I know its a beta, but Vindicta's sniper scope crosshair could use some clean up. Looks like some shitty valorant skin scope.
>>567452360I like Mirage but I don't want to play a carry
>>567449258Mina and Shiv are two of these, what are the others? Paige? Victor?
>>567452624He works well as a debuffer, just pick every on-hit effect, ricochet and max your ult so you can be in every lane at once
>>567451708Revert all the nerfs he got.Make his dodges better, he stands perfectly upright while dodging unlike half the cast who spaz out like they're in a GEDDAN animation from Japan.
Guys I was watching a Vindicta on my team shoot people and the bullets were homing and constantly hitting headshots. What item or how do I get my Vindicta to do that?
>>567452672abrams, celeste, dynamo, seven
>>567452160based. i replace arcane surge with diviner late game every time.
Kill all warden players
how do i not suck at street brawl?I pick S tier hero roster.I click shoot on enemy.I can't tell if I am killing anything or if my actions are influencing the other team. I cannot tell if I am supporting my team either.
>>567452672Victor was bad for a while
When will silence start interrupting channeled abilities like Mina's ult?
>Try gun Victor>Do most damage to objectives>Most player damage at the end is from aura of sufferingI guess I really am stuck being an aimlet for life huh...It was funny to see 3 ults at once (Seven, Rem, and Miku Ginnis) being used on me when I went to attack my first walker though. STILL KILLED DAT SHIT
>>567453516as long as Dynamo's ult remains as a channeled ability, never.it'll only happen when Dynamo's ult is no longer a channeled ability.
>>567453841It's insane how much dev favoritism that Dynamo has
We need some little guy with micro stuns
>>567452967>What item or how do I get my Vindicta to do that?You get QOL mods like picrel
>>567454007dynamo is the "tired gamerdad" heromina is the "egirl cosplay stripper on reddit" herosilver is the "you are either a zoophile or a yuri fag pick your poison" heroso what's abrams and shiv's player archetypes?
>>567453516we need an insta knockdown for nigger ults like dynamo..>stuns the redditor for 2 seconds>BUT you can't damage him while he's stunnedship it, icenigger
>>567454228>tired gamerdadImagine being a dad that gets an hour of free time a day to game and you choose Deadlock as the game to play, only to end up with 0/12 teammates (or maybe you're that guy yourself)Couldn't be us neetGAWDS though
>>567454315>we need an insta knockdown for nigger ults like bebopwait? what the fuck? why did. why did my text do that? why did it change?>we need an insta knockdown for nigger ults like bebop>we need an insta knockdown for nigger ults like bebopSTOP EDITING MY FUCKING COMMENT ICEFAbebop
Billy's blasted should negate parries. Also add runed gauntlets to standard.
>>567453202>I can't tell if I am killing anything or if my actions are influencing the other team. I cannot tell if I am supporting my team either.The solution is to turn on your monitor
>Seven: How long are you going to squander your talents?>Silver: You don't know me, Seven.>Seven: I know the cliché you are all too keen to wrap yourself in. You're worse than a petulant teenager… at least they have the excuse that their brains aren't fully formed!>Silver: Hell of a pep talk, Dad.>Seven: You don't know your dad.https://deadlock.wiki/images/9/95/Seven_silver_conversation_03.mp3
>>567454208>Haze sleep dagger aimhacksImagine being so subhuman that you need aimhacks for an ability that you throw out while invisible onto a target that's right next to you
>>567454706why does everyone keep owning her...
>>567454706Absolutely BASED Seven interaction.SevenGAWDS stay WINNING and HONEST.
she is...good...
uh oh...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXlik2mojU&t
Bro who fed Silver?
>>567455164Seriously fess up. Which one of you tards went 0/6 against Silver?
>>567455347>>567455164damn bitch, is this your wife???
I haven't opened the game in a week, I'm probably obscurus now
People realize that Dota 2 is a shit game compared to LoL and that Yoshi/Icefrog has no idea what he's doing because for 10+ years Dota 2 balancing was literally "make everything an absurdly OP unbalanced coin toss so in grand scheme of things shit's balanced".There's a reason why LoL practically done away with all RNG and random elements in it's game except for crit which is still controversial and created characters like Yasuo that get 100% chance with 2-3 items.Meanwhile Trannylock:>random souls from boxes>random buffs (not always guaranteed) from statues and sinners>random item effects>random skill effects>random soul fly path after killing minion>absurd random shitty minion pathfinding
>>567455164>>567455347UH GUUUUUH
S+++er literally broken...
>>567455164>>567455347>>567455423
STOP making fun of her you niggers
>>567455498It's Modus Operandi of every lazy fucking competitive online game out there whose devs do not want to think too hard.Hearthstone used to be actually tactical and strategy was important but Blizz just rebalanced shit to be a coin toss for epic hype moments and "balanced" 50% winrate.Same happened with Gwent. In Beta the game was actually very strategic and tactical and best players got like 80% winrate while overall things were balanced well but then after release they just turned it into another Hearthsone with over the top RNG.
>>567455498>Dota 2 is a shit game compared to LoLSure, if you're a tranny and/or a Chang
*burp*
>>567455161Genuinely terrible video, its eight minutes of the guy saying "the game FEELS bad and i can't articulate why but it FEELS bad" and then he complains about doorman ult and says they should nerf more heroes and rework the ones that are frustrating to play against. Eight minute leaguebabby ramble with no point
I unironically cannot wait for the day that Deadlock starts selling $20 coomer skins, driving off the Reddit tranny audience.
>>567453516then what would the point of curse be?
>>567456032>thinks the skins would drive them offkek. you'd be amazed, anon
>>567456032its going to do the absolute opposite of that you retard
¡Despegar!
>>567422271I wouldn't say you get worse but there's skills it won't teach youYou're not gonna learn macro or economy in a gamemode where there's one lane and items sre randomly given
>>567456047curse relic is a gigantic waste of souls (6,400), and getting it for only one guy's ult is shit
>>567455498... and other such things riot devs tell themselves so they can sleep at night
i don't know whats worse the flying celeste/mina or the fucking victor destroying my shrines at 15 minutes
>>567451659>Mohammed and Kareem>Spirit Abrams>Spirit Victor
>>567426601Jewtuber named CF3 has been making videos shilling the character to some successThey vary from funny to "Okay bro stop it with the vine booms I don't fucking care"
Lash gender bend skin
>>567456458I never thought I would say it... but I'm pumping for The Lash(ette)!
>>567456458>nofaceuglyGAWD...
>>567425216>nightshiftThey're retarded and took fucking ages to get around to running him again lol.I fucking hate how shit will be in the game and people will pretend it wasn't a thing until washed up overwatch streamers pick up on it a month or more later.
>>567456557doxxtard...
>>567456714ok but if the face happens to be ugly, there is no body-type in the world that would influence me to fuck that bitch
>>567456614No. Do NOT question the streame - I mean, the professional players. They are always better than you. They do not make mistakes.
>>567456146Deadlock's audience has become more prude than Overwatch
We need actual pro players, I'm tired of the circlejerk that is nightshift "pro" play
>>567457031the "pros" can't even develop into actual pros if there's no foundation for them to spring from retard
Pumping for Mina!
I don't give a fuck about winrates, nerf shiv into oblivion or rework him into a hero that doesn't feel like pulling teeth to play against
>>567451708Revert every single change made since release and make his bear traps either unable to be shot or remove the purple aura(for enemies, allies could still see it) so you have to spot the model on the groundHe was literally the most fair and balanced of the newest 6 and they have nerfed him into being one of, if not the worst M1gger carry in the game.
>>567457249wrong answer, bear trap and gutshot should be deleted entirely and replaced with better designed abilities (this will never happen though)
>>567457371I'm trans and look like this and do this Silver main btw
>>567451708Higher health pool or higher movespeed
>>567457015Those proportions are less hot than their actual models, which is weird because they're absurdly sexed up.Guess it's kind of like how nudity is less hot than sexy clothing.
>Venator's kit is built around close range (gutshot) and area of denial/catching around corners (trap)>He's squishy as fuck and has no escape abilities>Is the worst m1gger because he can't go hybrid
>>567453581>>Try gun Victor>>Most player damage at the end is from aura of sufferinghow many purples did you have in your build?
>>567457719It's because it's trying too hard. It's like how Rivals twerk emotes or NIKKE/ZZZ jiggle physics just look laughable and absurd
>>567457719Speak for yourself faggot. On model nude Mina would still be hot.
>>567457390I like gutshot and it's an important part of Venator's role as being a dual threat at a distance and up close, since his gun and ira domini work well at range while his shotgun and decent melee keep him dangerous up close.It made him a counter to Drifter which was fitting, Drifter gets fucked up at a distance with no recourse and if he tries closing the distance he gets blasted into a wall and staked.I could take or leave the bear trap, it feels kind of weird on him and the way the ability is designed sucks because it almost never works so Venators just kind of lazily throw it out in the hopes they get the 1/100 random dude stepping on the trap and exploding.I wish we had a proper trap-themed character with abilities where he places shit that fucks enemies over for walking into it.
>>567457804So people were right Deadlock is a troon game.
>>567458268>I wish we had a proper trap-themed character>doesn't play as character named "TRAPPER"what did anon mean by this?
>>567458194You just agreed with me in the second half of your sentence, ESL-kun
>>567458298it's a valve game, what did you expect?
>>567457804>Breast removal scars on the DoormanLOLOf course the kidnap build faggots are all trannies
>>567457781it honestly feels like he was suppose to be a bruiser type character but pivoted late into blancing
>>567458298ywnbaw
>>567458496>Visible penis bulgeHow does this not count as sexual indecency? Oh wait, it's because cosplay conventions are on the level of pride parades when it comes to debauchery
>>567458389techies when?should be 100 rats in a trench coat placing traps around
>>567458389Anon means he wishes Trapper was still in the game, or atleast had a spiritual successor, instead of lost content from the defunct Hero Labs gamemodeAnon also wishes he had slork because an invisibility passive is cool
>>567458703Sorry, the most you're getting is the Reddit rat, who has quirky soilennial voice lines and is an office worker for some reason
>>567458894Saw a leak(No clue how true it is or isn't) that they're adding this guy as a shopkeep for one of the secret shops
>>567442045This pic is the best example of solo queue Ivy.
>>567442045And this is why you never solo queue as a support
>>567450058>>567450482It's just mo and krill again.
feels like I dodged a bullet
what does he even do
>>567457015When finished result?
>>567454706I could genuinely imagine silvertroons demanding this to be cut due to daddy issues
>queue as graves>get in as victor, rem, haze, etc>no graves player>wtf.webp>learn players can ban heroes>fucking stupid>finally get graves after 5 Ls>MVP with a 10 killstreak overwhelming deadheads and ultI now see why players keep banning her but still, fuck valve
>>567458695Bulges tend to be visible unless you're a chud
>>567450058He's in a similar spot to Mo and Krill where if you don't play the character yourself you don't know how they work or how to play around them, so you do something stupid around them without knowing it was stupid and get caught out for itI LOVE fighting Doormen because I'm good enough at Doorman to know how to play around them and fuck them over hard
>>567458695retarded + micro dick, life must be tough for you
>>567459587Initiate?Graves is actually kind of dookie right now, she's just annoying in the same way TF2 Pyro is where players with a skill issue get killed by someone W+M1ing at them and cry about how the character is no-skill.Except Pyro atleast got given an airblast, Graves doesn't really have an equivalent.
>>567451708literally just bucket 2 with average bucket 2 movespeed and he's perfect
>>567460062her equivalent is being in an infinitely more complex game
>>567458298Inevitable once Ivy took off with furries unfortunatelyBillie Silver and Rem sealed the deal
>>567452061This.
>>567459451He's made of GOOOOO!!! :DDD Not much really they nerfed his ass into the ground. Honestly most of your abilities are just worse than Dynamo's equivalent of them.
>>567459451>>567460257Why did they buff him (not even to a crazy amount) just to nerf him into nothing two weeks later?
>>567459750>>567459934I found the faggots that wear bunnysuits while looking for grindr hookups at conventionsMake sure to take your PREP pills!
>>567460402because the four or so viscous mains were popping the fuck off and had a 100% winrate.
silver brought it home...
Viscous players are most skilled people I have ever seen in this gameGreat comms, great movement, great saves with cube, everything is consistently great about themI only have 1 question, what the fuck they all doing in Seeker/Alchemist?
>>567460402It wasn't even really a buffFor the longest time, melee damage and weapon damage items wouldn't properly scale the damage of abilities that dealt melee damageFixing this changed a lot of characters like Calico, Billy, Bebop, anyone with an ability that deals melee damage with melee scalingObviously this fix had the biggest effect on Viscous, who had a charged melee damage ability that was relatively spammableUnfortunately, rather than nerf the damage back to about what it was before so that he could be in the same place balance-wise, they nerfed how often you could punch to try and preserve the damage aspect. This made him unpopular with everyone since oldheads liked punches for being spammble movement/displacement and didn't give much of a fuck about damage, new players that hopped on because he was busted broken immediately moved on to the next most busted broken character, and the whiny redditors continued to be whiny redditors when a goo fist would heavy melee them from around a corner. So to appease the shitty redditors Valve also nerfed the damage.Now Viscous is one of the least played characters in the game, because he has very little appeal nor reason to play him. I used to consider myself a Viscous main and try to master punching around the map, I even got to a point I could speed pogo. Now there's nothing.
>>567454228Shiv is the sweaty faggot who thinks he's godlike for playing a broken character archetype. They think turning 90 degrees and shooting his alt fire is the apex of skill.
>>567461245redditors can't stop ruining this game ffs
>>567442045Rank?
>>567454228apest. abrams main
>>567461619eternus, obviously!Lol!
>>567461760Abrams players really are apes>Either their gameplay is just hold W + press 1, or hold down Q the entire game even if you get parried over and over
>>567454228Abrams is someone with low impulse control that spams heavies because they get away with it just often enough to make up for the times they get instantly parried and slaughteredThe sort of person who probably has several other vices/addictions, and thinks forced jokes are really funny
>>567461619this happens in e6 gamesgame is a joke
>>567461570not a single complaint about dynamo on the subreddit btwand any "complaints" about him are usually half-hearted, or just have 0 upvotes because reddit is just a shitty platform
>>567460982This is why we trust her where we wouldn't trust any other heroShe just wins every game
>>567461981It's because Dynamo is literally a self insert Redditor stereotype, they relate to him too much to see the problems in his gameplay
>>567449038>>567447057same. the matchmaking is ass. On this rank, there are usually 1 or 2 sweaty people, 4 normals and rest are drooling retards.
>valve: let's make the most broken character in the entire game, and then run a social experiment/psyop to see how well we can repress this info to every corner of the internet except 4chanI don't like these experiments, gabe newell literally set this up to where his favorite hero will never get complained about or nerfed. it's so fucked
>>567461245literally none of this happened, they nerfed his damage 4 times in a row and increased the charge time by 0.2 seconds lol
>>567442045Only 10k behind why are you giving up :3
>>567462362shut up paradox
>>567462270>>valve: let's make the most broken character in the entire game, and then run a social experiment/psyop to see how well we can repress this info to every corner of the internet oh it's silver>except 4channevermind it's dynamoLOL
>>567462456I mean dynamo's big and fat and loves science, what the fuck did you think newell's self insert hero was
>>567461885I miss melee being good.
>>567462509you're stupid if you think gabe plays this gamehe can't even handle bot matches of dota anymore
I fucking love shiv.
>>567461981I don't know what the fuck chud even means anymore
>>567462587>he can't even handle bot matches of dota anymoreI wish to know more
>>567462689he used to play bot matches of dota 2 as sand king when he lived in washington but recent interviews have him only playing MMOs on his yacht like FFXIV
>>567462806>gabe is a pedo discord groomer nowthere really is no late game in earth
>>567462806I mean, it's not like the only game he was playing in his free time was dota, right?
I thought this character was bad?
what is the reasoning behind getting cultist blade and when should i get it? obviously, it's a farming item, but how come for some carries like seven they almost always get it but for others like warden they don't?
What do Eternus players typically build for McGinnis?
>have most amount of assists rather than kills each gamemaybe apollo isn't for me...
>>567462806
>>567463390They probably don't play McGinnis.
>>567463390https://statlocker.gg/profile/1125297246/matches
>>567463390ult build
>>567463514I've heard she has an extremely high win rate, but I don't check that myself.
grey is meant to be a carry right? then why do every grey player I run into deal 0 damage?
>>567461619Emissary.
>>567463265plenty of warden builds have cult sac, it's pretty nice for his cage range too. idk the exact reason why it's so common with seven specifically (tbf all of his abilities scale with range and he has low max hp so he benefits from all of the bonuses cult sac gives), it could just be people copying a build that copied another build etc. like some pro originally put it in their build without any thought because he just 'felt like it', and then it ends up in everyone's build
>>567463668Top winrate but low pickrate, the few people that pick her regularly do well but she's not popular.
Werewolf pups with Silver.
>>567461923The worst shit about abrams is that he can get parried, live because he has 2 built-in mobility options for some reason and then come back into the fight 3 seconds later at full hp.There's so many fundamental problems on so many heroes that the moment they're slightly too strong the game warps around them.
>>567463265>obviously, it's a farming itemIt's not actually, IIRC the math comes out to something like 30 minutes for it to pay itself off, and since its a Tier 3 by the time you buy it, it may never pay itself off in time for you to either win or lose the game.Even the stats aren't that much higher than monster rounds, especially considering that monster rounds is 1/4th the cost.You actually buy it for the buff, which is why scant few characters care to acquire it because they need to really care about Ability Range, Health, and Weapon damage to go out of their way to get a tier 3 that doesn't even have 100% uptime on those stats. It's kind of in a similar position to old Trophy Collector where the only people buying that item were mo and krill players and the occasional Paige. The people buying Cultist sacrifice are M1ggers that still really like having ability range and health.
>>567464004It's not a fundamental problem just because you don't like it niggy
>>567463668Seems like a worse Victor. She can get Magic Carpet and just macro them to death. Just seems like Eternus movement wouldn't really have an issue with McGinnis. They can quickly move out of the way of turrets, the ult, or a wall. Take it with a grain of salt since I am a Alchemist McGinnis chud.
>>567464095Then why are the same heroes always top tier almost nonstop you double niggerThey might be nerfed for one patch but it's band aid at most and they'll be back at that spot soon because of those core issues, the game needs mass ability reworks not meme nerfs.
REMINDER: Haze, Seven, Dynamo, Yamato, and Shiv deserve EXTREME NERFS
>>567464185>Then why are the same heroes always top tier almost nonstop you double nigger>They might be nerfed for one patch but it's band aid at most and they'll be back at that spot soonBecause there's like 40 heroes in the game dipshit lmaoAbrams isn't top tier anyway, he's fallen out of favour in nigshift and his winrates aren't offensively good anywhereYou're just a retard with an axe to grind
>>567464269No, No, Yes but to his 1, Yes, and Yes.
>In here *spreads cheeks* I... am king...
>>567464321>he's fallen out of favour in nigshift and his winrates aren't offensively good anywhereAnd I would bet you my left testicle he'll be at the top again very soon, same as other nigger heroes like shiv/lash/doorman and so on but you're too much of a retarded oracle, maybe shit low phantom at most to even realize.
>>567464269This but Dynamo and Silver
every character i play is honest and every character i dont play is dishonest but unironically
>>567464573I doubt you still have your left testicleKeep squealing niggy, it's still not a "fundamental" problem just because you don't like it, you're just retarded
>>567464715I love how you completely ignored the rank aspect of this, thank you for proving my point my little shitlow anon.Don't bother replying.
>>567463710he's like an off-carry or some shit. he mainly builds spirit and nukes people with 1he also kinda needs to get kills with his ult so he can stack up enough spirit for his gun damage to be relevant (base bullet damage scales with spirit)which to do so effectively requires good map awareness
>>567463668with a pickrate as low as hers a high winrate can be deceiving since it's all turbo acoustic one tricks
>>567464269>Haze mentioned but not minaMan I wonder who this guy plays
>>567464782>i love how you completely ignored the ad hominem part of thisThought I'd do you a little dignity, yeahYou are welcome, for the record
>>567464812>enemy grey talon that ends the game with only 20k damage but 18 kills
>>567464269>>567464974haze already got her nerfs a month ago and it put her down to an almost perfect 50% winrate
>>567463840>>567464067hmmm i seewith that being the case what are the farming items in this game? using a dota analogy you have items like battle fury and maelstrom that help you accelerate your farmim experimenting with making my own builds by understanding how items work, i know the meta of the game right now is very tempo heavy and at high levels of play you end the game at 30 minutes and don't farm but i'm still at a low rank where just outfarming the enemy team wins you the game
>mfw I watch teammates DELIBERATELY, out of their own will, walk through a doorman's door and getting anally raped as a result
>>567463265>>567464067>>567465481Cultist Sacrifice is in a weird place now since Trophy Collector is super OP and games end really fast now.There are like... maybe three heroes I can say it is almost always a good pickup on?>WardenLoves ability range, gun damage is nice, bonus hp is nice>SevenFarms really fast already, this makes it even faster, he also loves ability range and extra HP. Weapon damage is whatever.>VenatorHe doesn't farm super fast, but all the buffs are excellent for his abilities.I also like it on Dynamo sometimes.
>get a character I dislike>get tilted>feed mid all game>no low priorityWhat timmy gonna do?
>>567465481>what are the farming items in this game?Monster rounds lets you do more weapon damage to NPCs and take less damage from them, so if your character shoots guns a lot its a good item for farming creep camps in a timely mannerTrophy Collector got changed recently to be cheaper. You get an amount of souls per stack and get stacks from kills or assists, at the cost of doing less damage to NPCs, so if you're playing a character that gets in a lot of fights and doesn't farm its an ideal item for you. If you get a kill or assist about once a minute(perfectly doable on a lot of characters) the item pays itself off in 13 minutes, 3 stacks short of full stacks even.Golden Goose Egg is kind of a farming item? You lose 10% of your damage in exchange for an item that slowly accumulates sinners/golden statue buffs and souls. It's best use case is if you realize your lane is going poorly early on you can buy it and then pop it after 10 minutes to catch-up a little bit. Otherwise buying it is a little shiteating.Other than that the best farming items are just items that let you run around faster to get more farm(Fleetfoot and Warpstone) and items that let you hit more than one creep in a creep camp(Ricochet and Tesla Bullets).
>>567465864I play Doorman and I'm genuinely amazed when enemies willingly walk through my doorsMost of the time it's the metaslave characters like Haze, Fern, or Vic
>picked Mina>slow as fuck>absolutely no mobility>no damage outside of ultfeels like I'm inting
>>567465481tesla and ricochet are the only other ones of notethere's egg and trophy but those actually slow down your farming technically
Ghhrr... You've left me no choice... You're about to unleash something that was never meant to be awakened... Master... Forgive me... I must go all out... Just this once... I'll perform the forbidden incantation... אני אונס אנשים שחורים ... FACE ME, AND DIE!!!! AAAAGGHH!!!!*gets a shittier version of torment pulse for 5 seconds*
>>567466309Meanwhile in reality>stuns the walker, rapes the walker, rapes you and is now 10k souls aheadEnjoy the nerfs nigger
>>567463710>>567464812>>567465107I just go ult spam because it's the funnest build. He just ensures picks actually end in a kill but I don't really know how to roll him to late game.Also getting someone tanky like abrams or shiv executed can be teamfight winning.
Remove parries, they are cheatsRemove movement, it is cheating
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWP7G5nA
>>567464674>Paradox, Sinclair, Vindicta, MoKrillI'm as honest as it gets.
>>567466864Sinclair is the most honest character in the game>Skillshot damage ability>incredibly telegraphed and obvious movement/damage ability>CC AoE that doesn't interrupt so he can use it on an ulting lash to get bodyslammed by a bunny>Literally just your ult, like he's just doing whatever you were about to do
So why is was gun systematically forced to be the best possible items on almost every hero anyways
>>567465481Monster rounds, all neutrals take more damage from melee by default and monster rounds is bugged to give more melee damage than it should(melee normally gains half of your weapon damage but the buff from MR isn't halved), as long as you know how to hit multiple neutrals with one heavy melee it's an absurd efficiency increase.
>>567465864>>567466221>It's like 10 minutes into the game>There's a walker clearly visible through the door>People step through for some reason anywayNo man I won't ult, you spam ping you stuck in my ult, then watch as half my team rapes you to death, you'll be able to dash back through that door or use your movement ability to escape, it's fine.
>>567467051Thr assistanassistant ability alone makes him one of the most dishonest heroes in the game
>>567467051Sinclair is honest because he makes the onetricks of dishonest meta characters seetheI got a Dynamo to call me a faggot because I was just him but better
>>567466229>absolutely no mobility>has 3 teleports that also disjoint>also has a free movement passive with the umbrella
>enemy is taking rejuv>jump in the pit>instantly die but stun 4 with my revive>hear HYPER BEAM from our bebop on top of the pit >wipes them all Thank you Bebop
>get 800>hit powerspike and win instantlyHeroes with this feel?
>>567466229>>absolutely no mobility???>>no damage outside of ult??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>567467328Apollo
>>567466229>>slow as fuckpress 2 >>absolutely no mobilitypress 2 again >>no damage outside of ultpress lmb
>>567467328mina but the powerspike is the game starting
>>567466229Nigger Mina could be A-tier even without an ult
>>567467328Mina when she buys extra spirit.Or Celeste when she buys high velocity rounds.
>>567467259>>567467431Yeah but like what then? I feel like I don't keep momentum at all between 2s and crawl at the speed of snail after
>>567467328Don't let this information leave /dlg/.Sinclair.High-velocity rounds.
>>567467328Buying Extra Spirit or Extra Charge on Sinclair and chunking half of someone's health bar with a single bolt feels insane in the laning phaseIt's fucking bananjas, I used to think the vexing bolt needed a buff but I just needed better aim...
>>567467691>0/12 yamato with 3.5k player damage>39k net worth ivy with healing nova and 5.1k healingholy
>>567467703>>567467736The sheer damage output of a sinclair with just extra spirit and high velocity rounds in the early laning phase is fucking unrealThey basically have to hug the tower for dear life and pray your lane partner is useless because you're going to keep them at sliver HP everytime your assistant comes off cooldown
>>567460062Im using a build that focuses on spamming out minions and buffing them with heroic aura.her M1 I agree is trash but the dead heads hit for monstrous damage.Its nkt even like the enemy isnt ahooting them down, its just that they give up because theres so many.I had a billy player bum rush me like 4 times just to die pathetically as my minions just mop him up.>initiateim hurt you assumed that nonny
>>567467691You're the only character in the game with faster than average stamina regen and you have stamina mastery(makes airdashes faster) + multiple ways to stay in the air during fights.
First I get demoted despite a greater than 50% winrate in my last 16 games, now this? What the fuck, valve?
Headshot booster SUCKS. Why the FUCK do guides keep recommending this shitty item on supports that have no way to set it up and don't want headhunter.It has bad DPS in laning phase compared to other 800 gun items, doesn't build into an item most people want AND does FUCK ALL against troopers.>headshot booster on paigestatements of the UTTERLY DERANGED>bro headshot booster on Ivy into headhunterliterally WHY
>>567409045What's the build? I'm sick of buying spirit snatch and crushing fists they fucking SUCK
>>567468554Surge of power + echo shard on rising ram.
>>567468518headhunter on ivy is okaythere's like six better alternatives that are all great but headhunter's alright.I did see some nigger go opening rounds, swift striker and headhunter on paige and when I asked why he's building gun paige he asked "why does everyone call this gun paige?" because he had a single green, guardian ward.
>>567468518Eternus chuds assume others are using their guides when they're just making their own.tl;drThey dont know their audiencesame reason they have like 10 different actives not knowing the average player wont remember to use them
>>567468679Alchemical, Heroic, Toxic, Tesla, Hunters, Spirit Rend are all better options to slap on Ivy at T3 gun than Headhunter that do way more for the team.
>MLC kicked out scout and fishcake>instead of eidocompetitive deadlock's first nepobaby????
>>567467846yamatos a weird hero in that if she's>not played by a yamato autist>not laning with a competent personher game impact goes down the drain, doubly so because the hero has a shiny bright FEED button
>>567468874
>>567469123>get raped by yamatoIM GONNA TRY YAMATO>get raped as yamatostory of my life
>>567468874This shit isn't competitive deadlock, the moment there's actual money on the line 95% of these niggas are gonna be have beens that at most offer coaching to emissaries
>>567469310i mean a 3000 dollar prizepool is more money, even divided against multiple players, than most fighting game tournaments
>>567469392fighting game niggas are starving, it's something else entirelypeople heavily underestimate just how hard this game is gonna explode once it goes live to all the normies
>Get dynamo on my team>He refresher ult rapes the enemy team on midboss and wins the game for us>Don't even feel good about winning because it was purely based on having such a broken character on my team
>>567466374>stuns the walkerye wot?
>>567469612why didnt the enemy rem prefire his xray roofie beam to stop him?
>>567469612>enemy team gets lash dynamo mina seven abrams victor>my team gets holliday graves a 0/8 paige grey talon vindicta and yamato as our "frontline"wtf are you even supposed to do
>haze goes boundless spirit + tankbuster instead of just getting curse
>>567469668Victor ult stuns objectives including walker which is one of the things that allows him to just run at objectives.Dynamo ult also stuns walkersyes the devs are this retarded
>>567469668Victor ult stuns walkers.
>>567469816a draft system would be incredible for counteracting the shit balancing for these charactersbut nah mate deadlock is 2kool&different for that, so let's just instead "let the game figure it out"yeah, give a bunch of starving wolves a bunch of cocaine, lock them in room and let them sort it out. if your child is about to fall off the bed let god sort it out. just let life sort out everything for you. no biggie.
>>567466374>>567469968>>567469981I'm pretty sure the post was a reference to WardenHe's the one with the lines like that and who's ult is closest to a "shittier torment pulse"
Which of the female heroes would have the biggest futa dick?
>>567470132the one that is a horse?
>>567469968>Dynamo ult also stuns walkersevery day the "dynamo is a self-insert for one of the devs", "dynamo is the favorite" memes gradually degrade as memes and are becoming historical
>>567470005>nah mate deadlock is 2kool&different for thatI'm fairly certain the current system is a temporary measure intended to let the devs get a lot of data for different team comps and skill levels.I'm sure when the game is dropped for realsies we'll get a drafting stage pre-game, when there being an established meta doesn't get in the way of devs getting their data.
>>567470208>is a self-insert for one of the devsthis applies to like 8 heroes including lash, abrams, shiv, seven, etc
>>567468554Extra regen, melee lifesteal, close quarters, extra charge, spirit strike, monster rounds in lane, in any order you prefer Cultist sac, enduring speed, lifestrike, point blank, melee charge in any order you prefer, skip cultists sac if lane goes well (lmao good luck)Crushing fists, rapid recharge, spirit snatch, at least one resilience in that orderColossus, juggernaut, witchmailMore tank items or utility depending on enemy matchupPut everything in blasted by level 5, then max bashdown asap, then max chain gang, finish maxing blasted before putting any points in ramBashdown > blasted > bashdown and you have 4 stacks of crushing fists instantly, setting up a stun to cancel channeled abilities used by panicking hazes or sevens or to just beat idiots to death harder
>>567470132wraith, because futa is boring and so is sheperfect pair I say
>>567470132wraith
>>567470265you're forgetting that red-skinned bastard
Man Venator looks cool as fuck but there is literally no reason to play him over Warden. Flask is better than grenades, shield is better than gutshot, cage is better than trap and last stand is 100x better than the crossbow.
>>567470334he's still relatively new, I'll wait for a couple more patches before saying thatas for now he's just the devs being retarded by making yamato 2 but better at everything
Kelvin beam should be longer and deal more damage and stop movement entirely
>>567470347the reason is this is a video game and you should be playing to have fun
real shit is there anyone that actually plays this game to have funEverytime I try to play this game, it feels more like a skinner-box designed "dopamine stimulation" type of game where--yeah my brain likes seeing the crates break into a million pieces, the interactive movement, getting orbs, all the good stuff; but there's no real whimsy or excitement to be had in any part of deadlock. It feels like I'm working a 9-5, and feel miserable unless I'm playing the "press button to win" metaslave characters, because most of the teams I'm paired with are either absolute retards, or absolute mutes who refuse to communicate or coordinate with each other at all
>>567470132Silver werewolf form(human dick)
>>567470429Isn't that what it already (kinda) does?
How tight is Apollo's donut?AND does he moan like a slut if you stroke the base of his tail?
>>567470617Idk bro ask Graves
Yeh Paradox bomb build is fun I will not go gun build ever again.
>>567470617hopefully the donut might be lightly crispyI mean it depends on which brand the donut's from, are we talking about krispy kreme or dunkin' donuts?I feel like apollo would have the money though to be able to afford a good donut from an expensive, luxurious bakery though
>>567470685The pegmaster would know wouldn't she
>>567470727We're talking logcutter brand
>>567470801The lich taught her many things...
>>567466229play her aggressively. your 2 is your get-out-of-jail free card, it enables you to move aggressively by letting you escape shit you shouldn't. or let you move in, rake, move out. it's better to think of it as an enabler rather than a source of 'mobility'rake does missing health damage, it absolutely nukes. also it one-shots the minis and heals you when it kills units. use it, it's good sustainin general she's very bursty. that's her thing. dump your damage then get out. poke for love bites, rake to proc it, bat out. or just proc love bites then rake them. in short, rake rake rake. you can stick in fights after raking/procing love bites obviously, keep shooting if you're allowed to, but otherwise quick lethal trades are your bread and butter. ult whenever it looks like a kill.her base walking speed is really bad. her mobility mostly comes from being bucket 1 (+stam mastery) so it's heavily tied to your own execution, especially with umbrella float to augment it
>>567470560>real shit is there anyone that actually plays this game to have funyeah, we broolGAWDS do
Who's dumpster tier rn, /dlg/? My list:>Graves>Calico>Mo & Krill>Holliday
These new queue questionnaires are a retard filter instead of genuine feedback, right? Like if you answer "is rem a good frontliner" incorrectly you get put on the retard queue
>>567469943Feel like she wouldn't have big boobs. Flat or A cups at most.
>>567471038Paradox
>>567471084sometimes ya gotta ask retarded questions in the name of getting as much data as possible
>>567470615No it should be even LONGER and deal MORE damage and stop movement ENTIRELY because right now it's totally weak and not overpowered at all
>>567471038>Rem>Holliday>Viscous>VenatorAll of these characters are dogshit and have to play their fucking asses off to be anything more than an active detriment to their own team.
>>567471226would be funny if the devs made it long, but it did absolutely nothingit just makes them white
>>567471038Graves, Holliday, Paradox, Rem, Venator
>>567471038any dumpster tier list without rem is incomplete
>>567471250the gap between characters who have to do very little to get huge value compared to characters who have to do so much only to get moderate amount of values is nightmarishly wide; I've never seen anything like it before compared to any other game
>>567471038>>567471250>>567471297>Holliday>Holliday>HollidayWhen will we Holliday chads get our day!? I can't take this anymore...
rem can never be good, otherwise pocket medics would become an issue, and the gen would be yelling for rem nerfs like the world was about to fucking explode if that little shit didn't get his very-needed nerfs in time
>>567471038>Billy>Graves>Holliday>Rem>Viscous>Venator
>>567471481yeah but I won a game as gun rem today after drunkenly losing a full badge rank over the weekend so he's good actually
My aim is genuinely atrocious, the only things I can hit are objectives that stand still. What hero should I play?
>>567471774murkrat
>>567471425It really is insaneI remember the first time I played Mirage after one of the updates a few months ago and how genuinely ANGRY it made me at the time>recastable dash that immobilizes people in your path and makes you damage resistand during and afterwards>lifesteal DoT ability with a massive hitbox for sustain>gun passive that ensures you only have to land a shot every 3 seconds to deal max DPS>mapwide teleport on a 40 second cooldownEven after all the nerfs he feels SO insanely easy compared to plenty of other characters
>>567471481then just dont buff tag along
>>567471774Have you tried the Murkrat? He's one of the best designed heroes in the game. A lot of his abilities don't require too much aim, and can deal bursts of damage if you time his murkshots just right.
>>567471774Murkrat's pretty good I think
>>567472013I fucking hate the murkrat. His spirit scaling is too strong, and his ult is atrociously good at CC. I can't wait for this fuck to get gutted soon
>>567471481Tag along is fine and doesn't need a buffRem's biggest issue is that he does no fucking damage at all no matter how you try to build himEven the best Rem players I see end the game with like 17k damageThis game isn't some heroslop where supports can just be cheerleading healsissies, if you aren't providing SOME damage that means your entire team has to do that much more to compensate
>>567471774you could also do graves, but I like murkrat betterfeels like a much more fun version of graves honestly, graves is just shit rn
>>567470132Silver werewolf form(dog dick)
>>567472286Ok Paige...
>>567471774I like Murk, but he starts to feel boring when you get good enough at his kit. He's not very hard to play as.
who the fuck is murkrat
>>567471774Unironically Holliday, just punch your barrels at them.
>>567472560Play the fucking game nigger
>>567472560pisslo self expose, he has a insane pick rate in eternus
>>567471774hollidaydon't listen to the murkratfags, they're all retarded metaslave nignogs
>>567472227rem isn't a healerif you are prioritizing heal items on him you are an idiot
People here have been yearning for a ward system to protect objectives. I therefore suggest a beaver hero that builds a dam that protects walkers
>>567472560Where the fuck have you been I can't get a lobby without the fucker in itI have murkrat banned but it never fucking goes through and inevitably the lobby is either trying to fight this fucking rat or just orbiting him while he runs the lobby
Is this a joke made up in Metros chat or something? Seems cringe and gay.
I despise murkrat downplayers, they all say he's shit but he's absolutely nothas some of the best cc and movment in the game. I thought dynamo had all the dev favoritism, but fuck me murkrat puts all that to bed
>>567472878Don't you dare disrepect Metro lil seeker gup. He's the KING of Deadlock for a reason.
>>567472878Yeah, the "Silver being S tier" joke is horrid. We need to stop letting Metro's chat influence this gen.
>>567472878>t. NA oracle player
>>567472910His ult is also channeledwhen I see him paired with dynamo, seven, sometimes both, it's just ggsthey're all gonna nuke the walkers the moment they push up far enough
You're making Murk sound like Warden tier retarded when he's infinitely more honest
>>567472702>rem isn't a supportOkay anon what the fuck does he do well then?>gunrem0 damage>pillow rem0 damage>ult rem110 second cooldown, go fuck yourself>minion remGood in lane, falls off when people just start oneshotting the troopers so the only way it gets value is if they don't have a lanejannyLiterally the only thing Rem does well the entire game is buying actives to buff allies and debuff enemies with the tagalong T2, and its nowhere near enough to make him actually a good pick compared to any other support that can also spam buffs/CC while still contributing to fights
Just got absolutely raped by a team with Mina and Celeste and a 0-12 Victor that did 42k objective damage lol
>>567473197support and healer are not synonymous actuallyhe IS a supportbut not really a healer
>>567473197it would be good if his support abilities actually did jack shit.His healing even with items is hogwash and feels like the whole point is to heal himself if anything and his little buddies are useless outside of roaming.Give the griffin shota some value valvechuds!
>have to lane against lanehitler (i.e murkrat)>denies all my orbs, is slippery as fuck even when he overextends>urn teamfight happens and he nukes the walker>repeat this until all walkers are gone>39k obj damagegood fucking job, YOSHINIGGER I love getting raped for 30 minutes by this skankly fuckI hope all of his mains die of the hantavirus or cancer or whatever the fuck
>>567473506>support and healer are not synonymous actuallyYeah and he's bad at both lmaoIf there's a rem on my team I'm at a statistical disadvantage in every fight, that's just how it is
PUNY REMIN THE HEALER CATEGORYI AM KING!
>lane partner geist buys mystic expansion first item
>>567473827I have genuinely never seen a Geist not go full spirit, only to do jack shit all game. It's probably because I am in pooplow
>Hey, Mina. After the ritual’s over. I’m… Raping you. Sorry. Rat instincts, y’know? Is what it is.I FUCKING KNEEL, VALVEMurkGAWDS stay HONEST and BASED
>>567473648Thats a man who knows how a cub feels around his cock
>>567469310The moment this game releases and actualy money is involved the pro scene will be dominated by Koreans and Euroids/Russians. NA pro scene will devolve into e-celeb drama to make their money.
you guys are retarded i know murkrat isn't real because theres no rule34 of him
NERF MURKRAT HOLY SHIT BROKEN BULLSHIT ASS HERO
>>567472720>>567472693anyone who builds gun murk needs to be dragged into the streets and get gangbang raped and then shothis hybrid also fucking sucks but its nothing like his gun bullshit. his boon for bullet damage scales higher than victor's
>>567474136BUT there is of Rem.Both me and my cock knows
>>567473928I used to go full spirit for her because ebin bombs and muh amp stacksThen I bought berserker and saw the light
>>567474136I'm pretty sure murkrat porn makes up like... 40% of deadlock pornI think ivy's is also somewhat around that number, but it's not as murkratI can see the appeal though
>>567471287agartha beam
>>567474136I mean he's not the most popular character in the game but idk where you're looking
>>567451708Spirit scaling nade
ok yeah I just went 0/5/11 as murkratanyone got some good build ids for him? I just kinda fucking suck with this characterI don't know what I'm doing wrong or what items to build for him
>>567451708He's S tier already and will probably get nerfed, you just don't know the build (buy my guide)
>murkrat>another sweetbaby woke black coded characterlmfao eos soon
>>567474842do melee build
>>567474842yeah KILL yourself
>>567475071so is that with two Ls? I'm trying to type that build id in but it's not working
>>567475145That's not the build id, there's an old outdated meta build for murkrat literally named "yeah KILL yourself" but it's back when you built spirit murkrat, nowadays you're better off looking for a gun murkrat build.
>>567474842tankbuster and toxic bullets is core for him, don't forget leech as wellif the enemy team DOES happen to get antiheal with dispel magic for your sludge debuff, you're kinda fucked unless you switch over into hybrid mid matchif your spirit murk keeps getting countered and you want to rank up, just do gun murk. gurn murk is stupid fucking meta gigashitter overpowered at the moment
I think the most annoying thing about murkrat is that his 3 is like a fucking novellaI can't comprehend half the shit it does and every upgrade is like 2 paragraphs of textI don't know what fucking dev decided the game needed a character with a yugioh passive, let alone one that the entire meta should revolve around
>top dmg 3/4 games second most in the other>running urn directing team and being positive>lose 4 times in a rowthe fall from e2 to asc4 is rough fellers
bored me away to my bed with this murkrat shit
>>567475754murkrat is the reason why this game's debuffs need to be nipped in the bud by iceniggerthis nigga gets not one, but TWO unique debuffs that solely originate from his kit. Why? What makes this tumblrfag self-insert character so fucking special that we need to give him that much bullshit. this isn't even concerning his ability upgrades or anything like that
>>567475974damage is a meaningless stat. you can run it on bomb giest down mid and get top damage every game consistently if you wanted
>>567476060I'm just hoping the murkrat discussion dies down so no one realizes how fucking shit he isupplayers will say he's OP or whatever, but it's just to distract from how busted dynamo and shiv are this patch
Sex with Murkrat
this murkrat shit just shows me 4chan is basically reddit
>>567476451Calm down, Billy!
>For months never see sinclair maybe once a week>5 times todayDid some streamer pop off with him? Why's he everywhere now
>>567476134thats fair but im playing drifter, celeste, shiv, abrams. Not going for dmg farm, but i wish some of my teammates were dmg farming, dropping 17k dmg in a 35 min game. also this meta gay as shit a kelvin had 3k health at like 20 minutes with just a 4.8 green spike
>>567476464Redditors don't talk about Murkrat because they're all in shitlow where his players are dogshit retards trying(and failing) to do what they saw in Nightshift
>>567476464The "silver is c tier" memes didn't give it away?
>>567476534Ex-Marvel Rivals player named CF3 started maining him recently with the spoken intent of making him no longer the least played character(and has succeeded, he's above Calico and Viscous now)
>>567476451>Presses FNot a viable champ
>murkrat this>murkat thatare you niggers talking about Mo n' Krill?
>>567476534theres a youtuber making memevideos with him
it got a small chuckle out of me the first couple of posts but are we really going to keep this forced meme up until the end of the thread
>>567476824hhhnnnnggg.... imagine muskrat and mo kissing each other... all sweaty after a night of deadlockin it...
Murkrat is a spookHis Eternus WR is only so high because of his movement bullshit. Although I hate his random ass debuff passive shit a lot. He's just an annoying dogshit character that needs reworked>>567476824I wish
>>567476990muskrat will never be better than murkrat /owg/fag
>have a victor>he is going wallbraeker build>never wallbreaks>we lose because he just gets outscaled
>>567476853the murkrat posting will continue until morale improves
Silver is FUCKING BROKENWhen is this SSS+ tier character fucking getting nerfed already?
>>567477662when murkrat's ult stops being a channeled abilitywhich is basically never
>google deadlock murkrat>nothingdoesn't exist chuddies
gun bebop is so corny
>>567357245>Was on 9 game win streak>Finally lose 1, win another then go on a 3 game loss streak>We had 3 people going like 1/10+ last gameThere it is, knew itWas key player in 2 of them for my team at least
>>567477786>1,500,000 search resultsyou fuckin lier
I think that anon who was arguing about Geist being damageslop the other day might have had a point
>>567471774Grey Talon
>>567357471Anon...Please....Revert the curse....
>>567477849we seekergawds do not care for gun bebop
>>567478105>8 kp>againthe absolute peak of spirit geist>weighted pointblank on hazeoh shit nigger what are you doing
>>567478269>>567478269>>567478269>>567478269
>>567478059prove it nigger
>>567478105Spirit Geist is AOEslop that ends up doing nothing. Gun Geist rapes howeverbeit
>>567478105if some one goes spirit geist they are a bad person and are just dmg farming. surprised they didnt buy echo shard.
>>567477786>>567478290
>>567478334>>567478360spirit is the wrong term for it because if they just focus on suck and amp its actually okay, its when you see the retarded bomb focus that you get the high damage lost match
