>Marathon Youtube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/News:>Warden Hunt Updatehttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_109>Launch, Leanings, and What's Nexthttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnext>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathonPrevious:>>567099761
>>567550650Ultra-cute. Missing Recon and Assassin tho.
>>567550650
>>567550950yeah
>>567550650Cats are for faggots and women. Get a real pet.
>>567551386like a retard (dog)?
>>567550650Based cat thread for gods
birbs are the best
The missile boats just make certain PoI's pretty damn dangerous...
>get placed in regions all over because OCE>someone from any country over prox chat promises they won't do anything>know they're telling the truth instinctually for some reason and that I can trust them>have had multiple friendly encounters with players of all types from all regions and never once been betrayed>player with chinese accent over prox chat promises they won't do anything>gut feeling is that they're always lying and are gonna betray me>have been right 8/8 times it's happenedI don't even know how to feel about this. Is it profiling if it's so consistent? Why is their first instinct to try and screw over whoever they canHas anyone else noticed weird quirks/habits that are specific to certain regions?
>>567551702No, nothing a woman would fuck
>>567552524None of you will have women in your life, it's safe to buy a horse or dog.
>>567552617That's not the reason, you sodomite.
>>567552487i've noticed sometimes people just sort of mumble to themselves and i keep trying to talk to them but they're sort of just buying time and are not trustworthy
>Blue shield now free, just exfil RookThat's cool, but I'll keep using green, until I run out of them. Which is not going very fast, because half of the "purple death squads" are not very good.
>>567552967With a matter fixative - it's still compromised - but that might not be a problem if you have the right upgrades. I'm not sure; I haven't checked.
>>567552967>half of the "purple death squads" are not very good.*if you are an Asssassin with multiple smokes. It's way harder to kill purples without shitting up the whole are with smoke. Nut the ult, multiple smoke screens, separated.
>>567553623Ok boss, will check for laxatives
>rooks give me blue meds in exchange for bulletsSay thanks to rooks!
Four Loko + 'Thon
Rocket drone!?!!
>>567554812>From mostly worthless clankers to being walking med vending machines.Scav life sure is tough at the end of the season...
>teammates screaming in joy
>>567557237claim your codex bitch
>>567558191I'll claim your codex
>>567557237That legendary aim bot.
I claimed a codex once
>>567558668For a legendary game, which is too good for normalfags. So they're begging to change it's genre
Just use aimbot, shields don't matter
sponsored shitters got raped bigstyle
Sponsored kits are perfect for PvP, to the point where PvP should only ever be done with sponsored kits. Faction upgrades and loot - thats for PvE only.
It's perfect that these things roam. They'll either keep people indoors or make them plan other routes (or try to take them down). The missiles also have quite a bit of tracking once it releases a salvo, so even if you attempt to run you're still liable to be scraped on open sightlines.
>>567560624I'm still only shooting runners
>premade squad>30k loadouts>get ripped by a sponsored bastard
>>567560414>PvP should only ever be done with sponsored kits.Bad players need better gear. Without it, I'd stomp packs of ten, instead of packs of three
>>567562504>bad playersDisingenuous bastard. You know damn well that the player who grinds faction upgrades and kits out in top notch gear has much greater chances of winning the fight.Sponsored kits put everyone on the same playing field. No bullshit aside from faction upgrades, and those are enough to sway the outcome in favour of ones with.You fuckers dont want PvP proper, you just want to club the seals.
>>567561983>aimbot because consoleYou did not win that fight.Also, knife them if you are so great.
Good news everyone, after more than 2 months Marathon is only the 2nd most searched game on SteamDB now instead of the 1st
>>567563202>the player who grinds faction upgrades and kits out in top notch gear has much greater chances of winning the fight.Against an equally "skilled" player yes, against someone better than him, no. I will crack his shield, before he knows that I was in front of him. I only need one smoke grenade to 1V2
>>567563602No, you will not. Your aim bot will. You have never achieved shit because you have console aim bot doing work for you. With that - anyone can pwn.
>>567542084ready to apologise?
>Pinwheel>New improved floor for Rooks has made them exceptionally aggressive and psychoticOut of all my Runner kills in the last match, atleast 7 must have been Rooks, good lord.
>>567565432I suspect that many of the people who would normally be bringing in their own gear to gank are taking advantage of the no-risk enhanced floor for Rooks.
Another successful key run for the kid
>>567565660I think it's a great change for scavs who just want to spend the rest of the season playing lower stakes with deluxe gear. It still feels a bit silly, especially when you consider now would be the perfect time to put all the stuff in the Vault down the drain...
>>567563769I know right, kitted squads are losing to green, because they're on MnK. How sad.
>>567558419i already claimed it
Chuds are LIVID the daily peak will never drop below 10k
>Dozens of carrier drones per match>Crashed dropships>Drowning in exp and creds>Flying porcelain thrones that bombard people>Cryo open all dayFeels like a goddamn christmas eve!
>>567566867I actually am kind of upset and blueballed but I still think we'll see it happen before season 2 drops
>>567566867i am so fucking pissed. i'm going to not buy the game even harder now
>>567567443That's Perimeter, right? Nothing special on Outpost, just a Convoy every match.
>>567567443Game was more fun, when you had to kill someone, and survive, to get xp and creds.These shitter handouts are boring.
Will delete the game when shitterdads have the option to go to PvE. I wanna farm them more.
>>567566286>>567569298Whom are you trying to impress?
After like 80 hours of gametime, including 6 Cryo runs, I found my first prestige mod. On some UESC Limited gear from a commander that some team didn't even bother check. Lucky me!
>>567570910Different fill teammates have asked if I'm a streamer or something, cause I'm crazy good. I have it recorded, if you wanna listen.
Lol
>>567571909what hacks u use?
>>567572563Aimbot and audio boost
>>567571460I got two - one was sold by Traxus - a mod for Magnum, the other as a reward for Unsanctioned Hostilities 5/5 - a Repeater one. Both are shit, but hey, something.
>Want to play Thief to dump smoke on myself, and use X-ray to shoot>Will not be invisible when stepping out of smokeAssassin is just more versatile. You can stop and stand in a random place and not glow red. Thief has to be facing you to see you via X-ray. Recon doesn't know, how many objects are between you. You could have multiple pieces of cover, and Recon will think you're in the wide open, and try to peek it, then get domed in the head.Assassin is just better.
>>567572776Yeah I bought a gold chest mod from a vendor right after I ex-fil'd, too. Might finally bring them into Cryo so I can donate both of them.
>die to doing stupid shit>freekit Perimeter>0 expectations>hear key room opens>beeline to it>guy loots the place>flees from bots>i sneak in>nothing special>MISRIAH in one forgotten boxOH MY GAWD. I am so happy! I got to use two mods i had for it, and now it has 12 round mag and 14m range! My darling. Thanks obviously to whoever opened the room and did not loot that box.
>>567573105>tfw no alloy
This shit is most likely useless, just like the rifle it attaches to.
>>567559341>sweatiest player everI'm dad average at best. I just have all the VIP and know how to barter for shields and meds. I get purple backpacks and implants through VIP rewards. there's more than one path to get gear in this game, and it isn't always slide canceling wstr to flossing/fort nite dancing.
>>567569147Perimeter and Dire Marsh. The carrier drones in Outpost, along with UESC convoys are constantly regular though.
And this is rubbish too, probably.
300k to spend
>>567574997The shield restore is always nice in situations where you have to mob bots and as it's a scope, you can also attach a suppressor. The MC already one-taps recruits. The optic and it's biggest selling point is the fast ADS and better handling overall. The zoom is a pointless addition as the range is still pretty much in the 25-30m bracket.
>>567571460i've gotten a twin tap prestige mod from opening a folio on the ground in flight control once. actually like using the twin tap and impact now.
>>567565432>new source of Deluxe medsi'm actively selling/dropping my enhanced meds during runs now. there's just no room for them plus i can barter for them if needed.
>>567574810Honestly, I kind of like the Repeater. That mod seems kind of bad for it though, yeah.
>>567574917>I'm dad average at best. I just have all the VIP and know how to barter for shields and meds. I get purple backpacks and implants through VIP rewards.That's fine, I've met a lot of people who aren't extreme tryhards, and just love to play this game. They all had purple, and were between level 110 and 150.
I'll replace more green with purple, and then let everything get erased. I don't have a reason to use these.>CryoNot going to bubble shield rooms. Pop that shield on a regular map, with wide open space, I'll penetrate you from a random angle. Fuck corridors and rooms
Outpost and Cryo are the two shittiest maps
>>567563202>You fuckers dont want PvP proper, you just want to club the seals.Competing for free is not proper PvP. You're supposed get paid for competing(like a job). I will not compete for free, I'll go reverse boost in games that have seals and hit them with sticks
>>567576164It's a gun that has a very weird niche, as in being a high headshot multiplier / medium range DMR. The prestige mod basically turns it pretty beastly for triple tapping, but it also needs excellent aim to make the most of it. Get it to around that 50-55m sweet spot and put in a purple recoil reduction barrel and it'll easily drop anyone in three shots with that 2.1 crit multiplier.
Never seen Dire marsh this sweaty, running into golds every game and people full sprinting chad mode.
>>567577851>running into goldsDid you killded some of them? Is it noticeably longer than purples? I've killded purples but haven't seen gold.
>>567578446Golds have technically the same amount of EHP than purples, but have additional effects like invisibility on break or reinforced shields, which makes it a two segment along with them recharging much faster once you stim yourself. If you see golds, it generally means that they are roughly just as durable as purples.
>>567578712Ok, cool. I wonder if there's gonna be some on Perimeter too.
>>567574574I have never found prestige salvage. I did a few Lockdown events when I was like level 15 around launch, and they just gave me credits instead of salvage.
>>567575417The Twin tap is underrated, especially if you crouch while shooting.
>>567552487LOL. If you ever visit america, drive through a genuine US ghetto, the kind where the taco bell has bulletproof glass and the store keeps nail polish in a bunker. You'll learn in a hurry that several million years of instinct developed for a reason. They can say it's racist, but they can't prove it's wrong.
>>567579481The Q-reach mod is available for barter from Traxus quite often too, which makes it a four round burst with some health regen on hits for dueling potential. It's easily one of the most underlooked heavy round guns in the game.
>release the free loot update>oops we accidentally disabled the free green kits have fun fighting cryo loadouts on every map!
>>567563973For what? I still don't know why you were talking about World of Warcraft.
Bros this might be a dumb question but...how do I use the Assasins abilities. When do I cloak vs smoke and what utility does the smoke dive have. I feel like smoking just destroys your teams LoS so I never know when to actually use it. The dive I only ever really use on exfils where I can jump down.
>>567582198Cryo babs only know how to play Cryo so if you have map knowledge anywhere else you can relieve them of their golds and purps.
>big new update>still no one playing
>>567574919you do get wardens in different places now on outpost which is kind of neat, cool to have a reason to go to airfield. Don't know why the wardens didn't spawn in varied PoIs from launch though
>>567586427dive is for big jumps with no fall damage/last ditch escape attempts, could dive on a player too I guess but idk what situation you'd be in where that's better than just shooting them. cloak is good in a fight for giving yourself an extra second to get the first shot, otherwise use it when crossing open spaces.You can fuck your team with your ult for sure, it's more of a reset tool if you pick a bad engagement or you need to revive someone. You could try smoking a team and knifing them but that's a hail Mary that only works on shitters and you'll get shut down by thief visor or destroyer ult.
>bungie is never getting the lightning back in the bottleif they had anyone clever at the studio they'd put an in-game stock market on the main menu and let me burn my excess credits on shorting traxus.
>>567578446It's the same hp as purple. They have special traits though. Also seeing a gold shield is psychologically spooky.
>>567587057Bungie thinks shitters simply not having loot makes them quit, but I'm afraid the issues with retention are more subtle and intractable
>you just want good games to play>there's like three studios and ten indie devs that make games that inspire wonder and awe>most gamers value games by how much of their time they can spend on them>we just keep getting shitty timegated treadmills>marathon's like halfway between good and treadmill and bungie doesn't have the heati hate it here
>>567577670 Its so strong, it one shot breaks a purple shield with a headshot. A quick two shots after that is an ez kill.
>>567586427>DiveDive is mostly just a way to negate fall damage; there's no real common usage for it in a fight so just treat it as a tool that lets you jump off high places while moving from POI to POI (just be aware your smoke could give away your position to other teams while traversing)>Invis cloakHonestly an underrated skill that lots of people forget about in a team fight, it's especially useful for longer range fights where people can't hear you proc the ability. You should basically use it any time you go to peek since it can also fuck with controller player's aim assist and you can use the extra 0.5 milliseconds to get the first shot off. You can also save it to do some real oddball shit; there's been a couple times I'll run out to the open without the enemy realising and activated it and just crouched in the open and shot peeking enemies when they try to see what would be an assassin shimmering from a push. Crouch walk when you can since it mitigates the ability sound and can let you get away with weird bullshit>SmokeBit of a hard one beyond being an obvious rez tool. Ideally you use it to obfuscate LOS and "cut off" firing angles on you and your team or try to crouch skirt around one of the edges of the back smoke bubbles, peeking out to get a shot before backing off and to the side or into hard cover. The problem is less so fucking over your team's vision and more so thermals players might have or thief and destroyer players, which can and will fuck you and your entire team in the ass. If you can't confirm if the enemy has thermals or those shells, try to use it as a misdirect; throw it out one way and push from a seperate angle, since lots of assassins just push whatever direction they throw the smoke to and it can throw off and trick players sometimes.You're basically trying to create micro moments where you can get the jump on a player from them looking somewhere you aren't or not immediately being able to see you.
Night reskin map, and new shell won't help a game, that ran out of content. Terrible roadmap, boring update
Dead generalDead game
>>567616147as dead as ur sex life ))
>>567607892This but unironically. They're not fixes they're the bare minimum they always planned to shit out after three months. The "experimental pve" modes will be hastily slapped together, supremely boring, vastly unrewarding and shallow as fuck mechanic wise, so not even the stuff they're shifting to develop as penance from Sony share holders will do the trick. Lower expectations, the launch year of this game will be a slog and a bore.
>>567617397>The "experimental pve" modes will be hastily slapped together, supremely boring, vastly unrewarding and shallow as fuck mechanic wiseSounds great, because it would be much better to just continue developing the PvPvE aspect, instead of making it some shooting gallery for normoid masses. I think the three core things need to happen for PvE to be successful.>Core gameplay that takes advantage of map hostility and making each encounter between players a tangible standoff where both sides need to weigh their options on whether to not engage.>Future maps/reiterations need to tangibly differentiate the PvP and PvE side of things. Incentives for PvP crowd to do PvE and PvE crowd to do light PvP.>More safety nets and less punishing progression.That is literally all the building blocks. The rest is already adding to a good foundation.
Where the fuck are the free green kits what are they doing to me
I look forward to S2 being exactly the same as S1 instead of bothering to fix anything
>>567619013Yeah. A shame Bungo can't fix people being shit at the game, because that will never change no matter how many seasons pass or how much PvE and jingling keys you add for the people who already got raped in the first place...
>>567619013But they explicitly said that they are changing progression.
>>567620981No they didn't
>>567623241Yes they did.https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnext>We’re looking to solve some pain points for players:>>Making the game less grindy, more rewarding>Other highlights:>>We’re expanding the max size of your Vault and increasing faction progression rates in Season 2.
>>567623524Changing a multiplier isn't changing progression. It's the same shit progression just maybe faster, if they feel like doing it. If this is your first Bungie game since Destiny, they usually never do something that they're "looking into".
75% are not able to exfiltrate, when competing a contract. Only 25% of players were able to finish 35 missions.Only 40(forty)percent kept playing, after trying 21 times.
>>56762368075% of people are unable, to use commas as intended.
>>567623665Whats wrong with faction progression?
>>567624282nta but the only thing truly wrong with faction progression is that gold salvage is retardedly rare despite every faction asking you for tons Traxus asking for gold salvage just to be able to buy a small selection of blue weapon mods, for instance, is absolutely fucked. There are maybe one or two faction upgrades that are powerful enough to ask for gold salvage but most aren't at all. Also purple salvage is extremely unequal in uses which I don't care for either/has no reason to be so. You'll need like a hundred biolens seeds or something.
>>567623680Really is puzzling in a certain sense. I can honestly understand the cases where somebody drops a singleplayer game or just walks away entirely after a specific point in the progression, but you would still think the percentages would be rising as people do make progress. Even then though, it's kind of frightening how rare some even ridiculously normal achievements for other games are. Borderlands 4 (Complete all activities and unlock Ultimate Vault Hunter 5) is sitting at 7.7% of the players completion and these are pretty much the bare minimum for starting what could be considered the endgame. So this also results in there being a metric ton of people giving the game bad/mixed reviews for poor performance and the rest saying it's "Not like the old Borderlands" and still ignoring that the franchise favourite (Borderlands 2) had around 2.3% of the playerbase ever do OP10 Digistruct Peak. So this pretty much easily gives out two common conclusions:>The majority of players are driven more by trends and assumed word-to-mouth quality, over what the game actually offers.>Pretty much every game hitting mass market appeal needs to be talked about positively in a wider sphere for it to ever get positive traction.Thus the issue isn't the actual quality of the title, but perceived quality of titles that the critical mass of non-audiences think defines the title. The average lies somewhere in the middle and it's quite a far cry from those who either rage quit the game or belong in the small percentile to actually play the game in any measure that isn't just fucking around.
>>567625167>I can honestly understand the cases where somebody drops a singleplayer game or just walks away entirely after a specific point in the progression, but you would still think the percentages would be rising as people do make progress.In this game, you can't make progress without being very stealthy, or winning PvP.Half of the playerbase did not make progress, they were being sent back to the menu, with no loot.
>>567626492>Half of the playerbase did not make progress, they were being sent back to the menu, with no loot.The game isn't built on the assumption that everyone wins 90% of the time either, so it isn't exactly an issue of the long term. Is it really a case of Extraction shooter tourism and people seriously being so dumb that they think they can't progress?
>>567626706>Is it really a case of Extraction shooter tourismYes, many people play extraction shooters right now, and STILL don't understand why PvP is a thing. They want PvP off in Arc and Marathon
>>567626706There absolutely comes a point where almost nothing progresses you (late upgrades for gold salvage) but the game has fairly minimal progression if you don't exfil even early on and a lot of people can't cope with that.Even CARRI requires you to exfil to really farm it.
https://youtu.be/FgrypWZivBs
>>567627482He saves players, now he will save the game
>>567627028For late-game the issue is rather availability. The mid-tier upgrades require stuff you can get by literally doing a trillion Rook runs on the low stakes maps and just gaming the odds, if you really are that bad at the game. I think my extraction rate hovers at around 60-65% and i still managed to finish the priority contracts and get most of the upgrades outside the current few end-game ones. The gripe that i can sort of get behind is the glacial pace of progress in solo, as the Seasonal and faction XP was ridiculously low at the beginning of the season.
>>567627482Damn they made Triage look cool.
>>567627482George Droid
>>567627835Most people aren't interested in playing super stealthy nor are they interested in doing tons of Rook runs when they wanna see prio contracts.Solo is the nightmare mode of camping, trios are all rewarding hyper aggression. Most people didn't pick up a Bungie game to play MGS. Obviously there are stealth elements to extraction shooters, but solo play pretty much demands methodical waiting games and slow pace while to survive in trios means knowing how to avoid the purple squad who wants you dead just so you aren't on the map anymore. The real problem is in the intersection of these. Bad players with worse gear can absolutely do their shit if they learn how to run and rotate, but successfully doing that requires pretty good map knowledge. More map knowledge than it takes to be a three man stack consistently playing together and knowing you can just rush down anyone with 2 shields and be rid of them the second you spot them.
>>567627482its too bad they spent their time polishing this shit and not the game
>>567617228Saved her from a Destroyer, Triage and a sniper Blackbird. Wasn't viable to try and reach our third, more giganigs were coming.
I think, a bit counterintuitively, a fill trio generally will not want to stick close together all the time. This is because of two things:1) Downs due to a player are clearly marked on the HUD, revealing the existence and general location of the enemy trio (And even exact location if the downed player gets a ping off.)2) Players can be revived at any time, even after being eliminated.
>>567629965depends what your definition of stick together isyou should all be at the same PoI in general proximity to each other and moving together. The goal isn't to exfil, the goal is to exfil with more than you brought in (generally) so letting your team mate get all his shit looted is a bad thing for multiple reasons. Getting full downed is bad, actually.
destroyers are the most insane players just giga nigga'ing around
>>567631052Really makes the most sense, as they can usually survive ambushes, so you want to get that advantage away from the enemy with either thrusters or the barricade.
>>567631052>deploys his shield and sprints at you at Mach 5>slide cancels the animation and instagibs you with the WSTR>"Surrender is not an option."how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>567631052nothing is more terrifying in marathon than a controller destroyerchad
>>567631515First, i shoot him in the back, he tries to dash, and loses
>>567631732>controllerAim bot.
>>567631515I grapple to the second story and smuganimegirl.jpg at him
>>567631819this giga nigga is rushing at you with his shield up, how do you intend to shoot him in the back? unless you mean get the drop on him but that works against literally everything
>>567631956>this giga nigga is rushing at you with his shield up, how do you intend to shoot him in the back?How does he know I'm in front of him? He can't, without Recon.
>>567631903>pop a signal jammer>controller player gets knocked down from god of gods to cannon fodder
>>567632271>>pop a signal jammerIt's a meme, doesn't turn off my controller
>>567632267He smelled your ovulating pussy from across the map
>>567632271>pop a signal jammerunironically the best consumable in the game
>>567632427Just turns off your generous helping of Bungle aim assist completely
>>567632596>completelyNot completely, gun is still sticky towards signal jammed, blurry players
>>567632476it's a 3 way tie between energy amp and panacea kitall three are godly
>>567632443Destroyer is not interested in pussy, he posts about drinking glasses of Vandal cum
>>567632737I can only think of OS Debug being something that doesn't serve much of a purpose these days, but hopefully S2 will change that so all the consumables feel useful.
>>567633323There's just not much hacking. But if you get hit by an EMP grenade you're gonna wish you had one. It's handy enough to keep on hand in cryo at least. There's just so many things that deal hardware instead of software damage as it stands but I fully expect that to change with more stuff.
>>567633561They did say Firewall oriented debuffs would be introduced and be more plentiful and more dangerous in S2, so we'll have to see. I'll be packing a few on Triage in Night Marsh for sure though...
>>567633849Personally I just hope for another tool to hack players or maybe a core to speed up Thief hacking with the visor against runners. It's so slow to hack as it is. Thief doesn't really need buffs but this bit of the toolkit is basically useless for PVP. Amazing for PVE though, fuck wardens lol lmao.I think I'd just be happy if the bar didn't reset all progress when an enemy twitched slightly.
>>567632271>>567632427>>567632476Idk, it just makes you invisible to TAD (i may be wrong here) and visually. Bots still get aroused, turrets still spot you, not sure about about Recon's ult/crab or Thieve's drone/goggles.
>>567629341Aren't they still farming out the cinematics to that third party company?
>>567635513probably, but that's money they could use to pay the people whose job it is to not push an update that deletes green kits
>>567634548recon ult spots signal jammed players like it does uesc, as red dots. i presume that means before the recon player identification patch they still showed up to her ulti too.
>>567634548it makes you basically invisible at range and can't be pinged at all, Recon's ult sees you as a bot now (kinda useless), it turns off auto-aim including gun tracking like the Volt Thrower and Scar, you don't trip claymores or anything of the sort, Thief's visor doesn't highlight you, and in general it can't be understated how difficult it makes you to actually hit or spot even at just mid ranges. You can see the effect but the actual player within it is very obscurred at just a little distance. With a lot of distance (IE: looking out from a PoI 50+m away) you really are just virtually invisible, not any different than trying to spot an assassin at that distance.>>567635861Prior to to Recon buff you were just invisible to the recon
I'm blasting off
>>567552487I used to walk around in friendly arc lobbies and ask people where they where from. If they answered middle east or africa i shot them immediately
>>567639436kek
>>567639436And how often that was the case?
>>567641124never because he didn't do it and just thought it would make him sound cool on a siamese fish fighting enthusiast bulletin board
>>567641124I'm on EU servers so pretty often.
>>567641963>i'm on EU
>>567642728why is that so hard to believe?
Is there some kind of way to take the models and enviroments from the game and put them in something like blender or unity? Kinda wanna dick around and make some fun poses/pics
>>567643820he wants to make porn
>sponsored Marathon video>title starts with "creators of Halo" because this is how desperate they areSON
>>567643820Yes, but you might need to go to a >discord to get anything interesting.https://discord.gg/Yt5QWHzMStBelow are the tools they use:This reads the files from Marathon and exports them:https://github.com/DeltaDesigns/MIDAThis imports the output from that into blender:https://github.com/DeltaDesigns/d2-map-importer-addonThis displays files, but it's not all that helpful desu:https://github.com/cohaereo/Deimos-Public
>>567644454>The Marathon brand has been raped beyond repair in just two monthsBRAVO BUNGIE
>kill 3 purple shields on the way to do my purple key in solos>open door finally>nothing even good in there>4th purple shield solo comes along as I try to leave and just barely kills me because my knife attack just didn't deal damage for some reasonwhats the incentive to do key rooms when they don't even give you anything worthwhile 90% of the time and just serve as a way to tell the whole map you're in a shitty chokepoint where you can easily die>>you're just saying that because you've grinded the game a lotPurple gun attachments and cores should not make up 50% of a purple room's loot. Give me useful shit I can actually use like guns and purple shields and backpacks and make it so every room gives them so there isn't only 1 good purple room and then the other 2 or 3 around the map are fucking useless
>>567645054cheers anon>>567643991would people actually get off to porn of the 3d models? all the shells look like dead fish in-gameI mostly just wanna make cool pics of Triage since I like him so much
>>567646186the rewards for everything are kinda a slap in the face
>>567646186going to be real every key room should just be a prestige key roomfuck tiersfuck gating off gold loot to rngif you have to alert everyone and plan your whole run around it just make it good, make them all good, if every key I ever used was going to get me gold salvage then the faction upgrades would be totally reasonable
>>567645054is there any hi-res corp logos and images from the opening cinematic, and the etherstep loading screen, stuff like that?
>>567647787Truth. The fact you have to put the same level of effort into breaking into a blue room as a prestige room just makes them even stupider to plan your run around too. Like obviously you should plan and organise your loadout based on what you have to do, but taking valuable commodities like purple shields and bubble shields so I can guarentee I get the garbage in a blue room just feels stupid since said rooms barely even give the loot of the tier the key is forblue rooms give more greens than bluespurple rooms are flooded with fucking blues and the only purples are gun attachmentsand the 3 prestige rooms I've been in only had 1 prestige item in them, which was the fucking valuable that spawns there in the open
>>567647787Simplest is splitting them to zero alerts (somewhat lower quality and rewards) and the valuable prestige rooms, which alert people. Currently even spending one key is a huge liability in Solo and it would also mean each lobby that uses keys to open stuff also technically opens them for the rest of the lobby, so the occasional rewards trickle out to those who might run into an open room. Currently the system is just way too cutthroat in comparison to the rewards.
>>567647823These are the highest-res corp logos I can find. Not sure about the other bits.https://tmpfiles.org/wIwllFv7MVPz
Why do key rooms play music that the entire map can hear anyways? I can't think of a reason for the mechanic to exist.
>>567651148The idea that anything high reward must also inherently be high risk, and the only form of high risk is driving pvp engagement. It's why every door makes a shitload of noise, and there's no quiet way to break vent covers, most of the game is just trying to drive PVP encounters.
>>567651940Because game lacks content. PvP as a substitute for content is bad.
>>567651940>most of the game is just trying to drive PVP encounters.Which is why this game fucking sucks
>>567651940I mean how the fuck are you gonna quietly open a vent cover or any of these automatic slidey doorsthe key jingle is stupid but you highlighted a couple of specific instances that make sense exactly how they are right now and make fitting noise for what they dothe various outpost pinwheel entries/armories and supply card dispensers really have no reason to actually make noise though. I feel like a lot of this got feedback from basic testing where people were expecting to test out PvP and not the game as a whole, so they kept asking for more and more ways to get into PvP before knowing all the maps and flow to things. The game would be healthier without this crap. There are some things that are interesting PvP encouragement bait but key jingles and alarms for doing things that make no sense aren't one of them. Calling in a dropship etc? sure. Reinforcements deploying to an area? Sure. Not a key card jingle.
>>567656848>I feel like a lot of this got feedback from basic testing where people were expecting to test out PvP and not the game as a whole, so they kept asking for more and more ways to get into PvP before knowing all the maps and flow to things.That seems like accurate analysis
>>567656848The slidey doors, sure, but I wouldn't mind a slower but quieter "don't bash in the vent cover with your knife" option.
>>567656848I would like them to organize the events a bit more into saner categories.>Category 1 (Low range of noise, mostly for those nearby) Strongboxes, Wardens, Cargo drones, Tox Clear, Safes, door panels, superior key rooms.>Category 2 (Medium range of noise, possible to spot mapwide/observe, but sound varies by distance.) Supply Drop, Access keys in Outpost, UESC convoy, Extraction.>Category 3 (Mapwide alerts) Pinwheel Security Breach, Lockdown, Prestige Keyrooms.Currently it feels like a lot of the things in-game belong more into category 3, which should be solely reserved for the truly valuable stuff. Yes, i sure do want the entirety of the map to know that i'm opening a superior keyroom only to get a bunch of blues, an occasional purple and a trillion meds. Surely it's worth the risk/reward ...
>>567658172you gonna whip out your screwdriver and open those fuckers? it just doesn't feel like a fit for the game. despite the stealth this isn't splinter cell, I don't think it's a worth consideration honestly nor would it really make anything better. Vents are still great utility routes as it stands and the noise in opening one is easily masked by shooting or stuff happening. If you wanna scramble around a PoI you should have to make some noise to get in through any barred entry, door or glass or vent to the point someone in it could reasonably hear it happen in silence. I don't think it's a good thing to allow for even more silent entries.
>>567658395I feel like the majority of the noise should come from being soft-required to deal with the bots at any PoI to do anything there unless you're sneakGODS. Problem is it's really easy to knife the UESC down and make extremely minimal noise, and that noise doesn't even reeally carry as far as the key jingle. And then it takes a long while to get reinforcements.My ideal gameplay loop is that UESC aggro is higher. No jingles of any kind except that Pinwheel Breach is announced (but without tons of noise from the location that did it). The tradeoff is the UESC there are going to make noise, and when you wipe them or get close to wiping them they're going to call reinforcements, and those reinforcements are the alert people are at the PoI. Bot response should be more than enough to tell you where players are. In a lot of matches it already is. Any trio with silenced bullies can dispatch a PoI in a matter of seconds with maybe one or two enemy shots fired that alert anyone. There doesn't need to be anything more than that. There's high bot activity over there, that means there are players there or not far from there. Right now you show up to a PoI and if all the bots are dead you might have missed the last squad there by minutes. If said PoI is, say, Quarantine on Dire, that team could be in AI or Bio by then. Or they could have just left and be halfway to Maintenance and ready to circle back and pounce when they hear you there. That's not a bad unknown, but I feel like it just makes sense for UESC to ask for reinforcements while they're being slaughtered and not deploy them after.
>>567659616It's mostly so Solos (and by extension Rooks) can sweep up PoIs and summon a Commander without alerting the entire map. I think the current iteration of combat noise isn't really an issue. The other more notable noises are, which does include the stuff that are a bit lower in stakes. For one, i think the Warden map wide announcement needs to go, as well as showing it on the map for everyone once that happens. Considering the current situations with Wardens, they spawn on every match so is it truly necessary? Also adds and gives people an incentive to hunt it down and go fight it as you're relatively safe until someone hears the combat or rotates to look for the Warden themselves. It already drives the same purpose as the map announcement. You could then mostly just have the announcement that the Warden is defeated and that ought to be enough, so you won't need to run around and look for it and instead maybe start to see whether you can track down the players and the stuff they got off it. It just feels that a lot of the skin & bones in terms of categorizing what would warrant larger responses from the various teams on the map and what could be left to player agency is a bit too heavy handed.
>do warden>kill him>1 squad comes a minute after>two more squads show up why even bother doing it then, it drops dogshit, maybe 1 purple item if you're lucky.
>>567664290become the alpha, kill anyone trying to third party you ᕙ( •̀ ᗜ •́ )ᕗ
>>567664290I killed the warden on perimeter yesterday and it dropped a gold hauler key so it's pretty worth itno shit everyone is coming to fight you, you just clicked the "come fight me" enemy
>>567664550>>567664798>>567664290Why not just use it as bait? Have a teammate make noise, while you and other guy wait in ambush. Other teams come in, try to ambush one guy, he sneaks off, now they have to fight warden and other team, and you can pick them all off. Bait, use it.
>>567667046plenty of people do it, you don't need to sacrifice a team mate either. Just shoot the warden and the whole server's alerted and you have plenty of time to set up positions.Everyone also expects this to be done too.
>>567667983The only times a Warden attempt didn't end in disaster for me is when my team killed at least two other teams first.
>>567668481It's always going to make chaos unless there are other high value map events happeningI had one game where every single map event that could happen happened at Overflow. The intercept led us there, the warden was there, and the infested tick drop site thing was there too. We killed the whole lobby in a long fight around it while doing this stuff. It was great. So much fucking chaos.
>>567668956Wow
Need a couple slots to save a loadout
>>567672873How would that even work? You're not always guaranteed to return with the stuff you went in with and even if you have multiple identical copies of stuff, there's still the issue of availability on a per run basis. One thing they could technically change is make a single button mod strip for the guns, currently it takes ages to strip stuff in the vault/loadout inventory that's literally my only gripe about the current interface and loadout stuff.
>>567673529if i lose a lockbox key just the same load out with no lock box key, i don't think it would be that hard just empty slots for whatever is missing
Sub 10k tonight PLEASE
>>567674351At that point it becomes redundant as say you run out of Deluxe/Superior cores/implants or shields and the game sort of just decides to place nothing in those slots. Even if you had specific builds in mind, the slots would need to be filled with three different implants of different variety (or simply what is available) and cores. Shields are a bit simpler, but when it comes to browsing the vault they're already a single click addition so you're not really ever going to run the same loadout twice unless you're sitting on piles and piles of dupes and even in those situations you would need to always switch around cores when picking different shells. It just feels like a mess to sort through and i've always found loadout templates to be extremely obtuse in games which have very heavily fluctuating pool of available resources.
>>567673529Striping gear to free-kit or rook and then replacing it afterwards isn't as big of a deal, though.
I love the key music
>>567676158me too
>>567675143sorry champ
>>567676158For me, it's the Morgue Emotional Support Plushie.
>>567675349simple system for loadouts: just let you create your own "sponsored" kit package2x2 box that sents in your inventory, when unpacked as a loadout you can't change it. Whatever you place in it is what it will exist as forever, unalterably, til you use it.
>>567681226make the UESC faction and it barters the kitboxes that fit items up to specific value and barter for the same shit that keys do
>>567682909I wish I'd occasionally get angry emails from Orion saying I'm totally fucking dead kiddo
>>567685031>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the UESC, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on MIDA, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire UESC. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Tau Ceti IV and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the UESC Equanimity and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>567685919RUNNA, WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT QUEST FOR YOUDRAW ORION AS THE SOIJAK RUNNAUESC WILL RUE THE DAY THEY CROSSED MIDA
this game is fucking unplayable now
>>567688718it's okay we get free green kits back tomorrow and not right now for some fucking reason (bungie's incompetent)
>>567688718for you
>>567688718Why exactly? It's the end of the Season and everyone's spending gear like crazy.
We need shells with gigantic boobas.
>>567689559every map is dire marsh and dire marsh is giga dire marsh
I await the future of pve saving marathon and msking pvp grinders seethe
Pve is cringe
Running into gold shields pretty much every raid now, it's insane how aggressive they play. This game def rewards aggression, push in with a big cock and win. If you sit in a building watching corners ur gonna lose to actual gold chads.
>>567692321>pvp grinders seethePvPers will go back to reverse boosting in other games and sealclubbing gamerdads. All matchmaking systems can be manipulated, using a Cronus Zen, and a good, paid script. >Run the script, let the device play the game>Go to sleep>Wake up>Wagie lobbies are ready for you to farm them>Reverse boost againSimple as. Works on Arc raiders, Warzone, CoD multiplayer, everything.
>>567695062>This game def rewards aggression, push in with a big cock and win.*Push after shooting them in the back.Marathon rewards those, who don't play (((fair))), why would you let someone face you. >Recon pings youOk, don't be behind one wall, get behind multiple objects, shit up the area with grenades and smoke, then shoot him in the back.
If you're not shooting everyone in the back, you're playing it wrong. When you can't shoot them in the back, you leave and exfil.
>help a team of green/blue take down a triple purple as ROOK>they immediately kill me next even though I'm spamming "Friendy!" and not shootingWhy are marathon people such psycopaths?
>>567696802people were more friendly early in the wipe. its very competetive rn
>>567676158https://vocaroo.com/136bKnCs3nRLhttps://vocaroo.com/1mNhwVNZdJ2chttps://vocaroo.com/19POKyb1EQxT
>>567696802>>they immediately kill me next even though I'm spamming "Friendy!"Prox chat and say "Hi, can I join?"Don't just stand there in front of hungry shitters, who are high from finally killing a purple squad.
>>567696930Its the end of the season, the competitive part should be the middle
The game is actually very boring when you're VIP with everyone and completed all prio contracts.
>>567699417>i like being told what to do
Gets so boring after you reach pinnacle rank #1
>have entire vault full of gold shit>end of season>can't be bothered to even use itI simply buy the Deluxe kit and press run. I can't be bothered to put together a loadout.
For the last 2 days they should add Prestige kits for 100k.
I've been encountering good premades, I could tell by the way they watch each other's back.My teammates die and I escape
Does anyone know if there are any decent models of the shells for Blender usage? Asking for a friend. SFW or NSFW I don't care.
Shadow Songohan, sorry if I busted your run just now.
I keep trying to do epic flanks as Vandal using the fast running ability, but usually I'm away from the fight so long my teammates just die
Do we know how many people are there in solo matches?
I hadn't noticed this before
Unsanctioned Hostilities [5/5]
>>567722207I tried to do 4/5 a few times with randoms today but outpost is a rapefest right now
>>567724272I'm on 4/5 and haven't even attempted it yet. It looks fucking miserable.
will pve save this game
>>567724892unless people are friendly next season, I doubt itnew people are going to see>pve mode for marathon next seasontry it outand get killed because pve mode isn't until later in the season, pvp is still on until thenand then quit
>>567716940New Thief skin?
they really forgot the part of the extraction shooter loop where its fun to use all your gear at the end of the season
>>567725045this isn't gonna bring people who gave up on it back, it will only bring in new players if it's f2p
Holy shit, Perimeter feels so good to play now. There's things actually happening around the map. This should have been the mid season update, not the finale.
>>567725765yea true, the cost is too much also
>>567697993Which key type belongs to these jingles? They are obviously different but very subtle.
>>567709897Read the thread, anon.
>>567726979I'm pretty sure that those are just 3 variants of the same jingle. If there were different jingles based on key rarity, it would have been a lot more obvious.
Who else rewatched Mandy's Marathon, Pathways Into Darkness and Myth videos recently?
>>567706378I could afford two, and that's if I melted everything down
>>567706378for the last day they should make all the loot good so you could like find a gold bully in a perimeter container hack but that's too fun of an idea
>>567734974I want gold shit to drop from all events so I can finish my fucking upgrade tree before reset
I hate this stupid faggot game. Haven't you guys been murderloners for long enough? Why won't anyone collaborate with me?
>>567734974I found a gold br33 mod in a folio on the floor of flight control. I'm positive people just aren't looting and walking by everything.
>>567737487i got a gold outland suppressor from a uesc field gear off a ghost once>>567736619i'd really like a second synapse cube for the arachne knife leech upgrade but i cannot get them for the life of me
>>567725469why not use your good stuff in the middle of the season instead of hoading till the end?
>>567737487that is insanely rareI found a gold lever mod in a random pinwheel crate but I assure you, as a 100% pure thief main with loot goblin vision, random golds spawning in random PoIs is insanely rare
>>567738447>i'd really like a second synapse cube for the arachne knife leechMe too.>>567737487>>567738447>>567739929I found once that gold volley upgrade for Brrt SMG in Perimeter, Station. Lost it because my internet derped and i got killed while forced AFK/diconnect.I got Rodeo mag, Scope for Magnum, and Channel scope from Traxus. Got gold repeater as Unsanctioned Hostilities 5/5 reward, so i stripped lever out and sold that piece of shit.Guns are shit for me, i can never kill anyone with them. So i just keep mods, and sell all of them. Unless its magnum/SA/punch with silencers - for bots.
>>567737280Depends. I completed all of factions through sweat and pain, now all i need to do is Arachne. Frankly, they beefed up faction gain so much that its worth leveling all you have. Seriously though, fuck Arachne. Too many retards pursue that shit, and rewards are meh.
>>567740516try changing your sensitivity thenrodeo mag is an instant lobby wiper
>>567737280Also, too many cheaters who treat this game as BR>me sass>hear pinwheel breach>go there>someone shooting bots and making ruckus>sit tight>pop invis when there is noise>sneak slowly to see where the runner is>get shot dead immediately as i turn corner>while i am still invis>and made no sound>see that the fucker medic was right in the spot where i would miss him aiming right at me>he loots me>then immediately goes to exfil>when the game has like 15 minutes to spare>i spectate him>all his shots are headshots on bots>ignores everything in his path>even supply drones>just exfilsOk.>look him up on steam>private profile>game level - 16Reported the cheating fuck. Its possible that the fuck was playing on alt account, but still.
>teammate gets shot while looting>just stands there and takes it for several seconds before reactingjfc why is this so common?
>>567740729>mouse sensitivityDoesnt help, i tried. Idk what the fuck it is, but i have an impression that hit registration is funky. Or they are putting people into lobbies from around the place, so some will have higher ping, even though they cannot see it or the server location for that matter. Fucking matchmaking. I had many games where hit registration was absolutely fucked, only to discover that i lag because... reasons. EU btw.
>>567741383alright buddy sure
>>567741383just sell all your guns and use frags + vandal cannon
>>567741539Look, it is what it is.Some games i can stab purple shields and win a fight, other time i lose to someone who magdumps me in the face while im stabbing them. Idk what the fuck.>>567741830Thats what i do - sell guns, just use knife and nades. Except i forget about nades too often.>vandalI like the looks, but not the play. 'sass life for me.
>>567741957>assassin who can't aim and has to rely on backstabs and nadespamkekked audibly
>>567742150I know, it sucks. Maybe i should try camping with sniper rifle... but it feels dishonorable.
>>567741276Sounds like you're playing with controller players. Whenever you get shot it takes way longer to recognize >oh shit im now getting fucked but I want to grab this loot real quick
