You guys are hopeless update the OP next bread, edition.>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Return of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsp5NFH5714 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MS6GHBAOg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miL0Ms-VwGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MHQmQXcbTE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0UcprSk8V8 Previous: >>567565963
>>567620034Truly only anime OPs are high effort and should be encouraged and commended. Thanks for adding those videos
you missed out the expedition video
I am still playing Mirage
I'm ready to get hurt again
>>567620129The first one to add them was >>567284956 DOE, and this retard did not even added new ones.
no swords
My hope is that they showcase the Chrono/possibly Gemling ascendancy rework tonight, ahead of patchnotes.Am I high on copium or is that a realistic drop?
loading up on pre
Just let me rooll through pots and vases jfc
>>567620553Gemling is getting reworked in patch 2.5 in 2038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWWagazXZ-o&t=36s
>>567620683I'm not holding my breath for Gemline because iirc it was a little unclear whether it's getting anything this patch or not, but it feels like the phrasing in the interview suggested Chrono is definitely getting changes in this one.
>>567620553>>567620683crossbow gemling was my first class, so I am 100% positive that they will never fix him to spite me
Poo1 EasyPoo2 HardSimple as.
now that the dust has settled its time to admit that ggg should have nerfed minion pact
>>567620553>Chrono/possibly Gemling ascendancy reworkOh shit bwo, pass me that hopium. I want to get high till 0.5 releases too.
>>567620553>reworkThey'll change 1 or 2 nodes each then call it a rework. Same as saboteur in poo1
>>567620784and I'm both right now
>>567620553if chrono gets reworked im league starting it
>>567620884I'd be very happy with that actually cuz the ascendancies have about 2-3 good nodes and nothing else to push it into "hey I have a good reason to play this now".>>567620848Well it's somewhere in the Q&A.>>567620993Chrono is hot as fuck
>>567620993horrible taste
can i play fireball vamp lady
>>567620195im not even following this game right now just baking for your lazy fools
thoughts so far on choosing my build:>es is always op>i refuse to play maces AGAIN>never tried minions, mite b cool>i don't like monk area of tree>ranged feels pretty strong but i've played lightning arrow and lightning spear when they were op>i hate hOOntress voice>love witch voice>i don't mind a weaker start if it has a high ceiling so i can play the same build for weeksso like, probably a lich, es, either spellcaster or minion. maybe just skeleton army or like, spark or something. lightning will probably still be broken
>>567620195when will you stop posting your stupid garbage chink gacha here
>>567621187forgot pic
>>567621126aint no way he published that thumbnail
>>567621187Play Druid so you can yiff and stay cannae and dinnae
>>567621187lich spectres is pretty comfy, I prefer the spark zealot but have seen tons of viable variations
>>567621269i played the druid already, bear too slow, wyvern gay, wolf was cool but already played it
is bloodmage good even if coc comet gets deleted?
>>567621390Yes
How bad will the nerfs be?
fuck off ggg shillsyou're going full out today huh
notes today?
They will sneak Blight into the notes
>>567620034DOG SHIT OF EXILE 1NO CONTENT OF EXILE 1DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2NO CONTENT OF EXILE 2
>>567620752this is still viable
>>567621232genshin sucks get off my dick
>>567621737>build of the week>viableIts dead jim
>25 more poops until patch notes >182 more poops until league launch
>>567621790I played it in 0.4 though
>>567621615nah i bet they'll wait till 22nd NZ time so like another day and a half
>>567621789>rent freeretard, go back
would rather grind ruthless than keep playing a gacha after it starts feeling like a chorestill like the girls tho
>>567622024>girlsanon, those are drawings
>>567620752fucking cringe narrationi miss when chris did these and would click on mobs like a madmanso much fucking soul has been lost, it's insane...
>>5676220240.5 class for me if I look like this?
>>567620993>Imagine having sex with chronomancer and right after you cum she uses temporal rift on you to make you do it again and then after that she uses time snap to refresh her cooldowns and uses temporal rift on you again and right before you're about to cum for a third time she uses time freeze on you and edges you like crazy
>>567622102xdd
comparison is the thief of joy
>>567622024Farming lab for gems is not a chore at all
>>567622216yeah, agreed, i only said gachas start feeling like chores, do the same thing daily again and again..
>>567622102this is just anka zone
>>567622024Why don't you just look at the porn and not play the game at all...?
>>567621813>1 poop per hour
Smith of Kitava has an alt ascendancy with ward stacking and a weapon crafting thing instead of armorscreenshot this
>>567622510How else you are supposed to poop, retard
>>567622532How much ward do you think you'll be able to stack? Serious questionWe discussed this yesterday but picrel is the primary method of converting ward to damage. It's a percentage of a percent and requires maximum tree investment to barely get any flat damage. Unless this alt ascendency somehow provides like +5000% ward or has an alternative mode of conversion that adds 200% of ward into flat then it's never going to happen
>>567622706Is your ass a clock?
>>567622798Hard to say until we get some info on what a high tier base gets
>>567622532>Sorceress gets Temporal alt ascendancy for Chronomancer>Warrior gets Kalguran alt ascendancy for Smith>Monk gets Dreamer alt ascendancy for Acolyte>Druid gets King in the Mist alt ascendancyWhat do the rest of them get?
>>567623119Witch already got abyss too.
>>567623119merc + boat = pirate ascendancyim a knower.
Does ward just straight up prevent getting one-shot?
>>567623050It's not, we can look at the numbers right now. Based on the amount of defenses you can stack in poe2 currently, you could make an estimate at the very high-end fully min-maxed (also copium) to hit 20k ward. Even that level is unrealistic but we'll use it for illustrative purposes. That means the flat damage you're getting from that, which includes a tree optimized for as much defensive stacking as possible, is 4k flat, except now you have 1 single defensive layer that acts the same as health, isn't affected by leech, and has a regeneration cooldown where you can't use your damage skills once it's depleted. More realistic would be 5k ward, giving you ~300 flat (runic infusion + ward skill base cost) which is effectively nothing.The scaling just isn't there and the only way for it to be viable is for GGG to implement Blizzard-tier scaling which you know they will not do.Ward exists because it gives GGG an additional "defensive" layer that acts like health and can be scaled on the tree, unlike health
Me when swords
>>567623504>you could make an estimate at the very high-end fully min-maxed (also copium) to hit 20k ward.show your math, nigger
>>567623385Fisherman
>>567623597>gestures to every mainstream meta ES build with an fully invested tree and gear
>>567623119Huntress Spirit Walker: WildwoodRanger Pathfinder: Raider from Synthetik
I just read the book 1 The Primal HunterThe Primal Hunter by Zogarth https://www.goodreads.com/series/339304-the-primal-hunterand it made we want to feel epic and play poe2poe1 does not make me like this!
>>567624086I just read the description and found about 5 red flags in those two sentences alone.
>>567623703so you're just making shit up
>>567623405Sounded like so. Guess it's a Quin patch.
>>567624685I understand that critical thinking is not a common attribute for mutts but the rest of the world can make informed assumptions based on previous information and use that as a basis for discussion. I'm sorry your education system / parents / country failed you
>>567624831retard
>>567624086700 Pages of pure slop? REALLY?
https://poe2db.tw/us/DNT_Crushing_EarthWhen was this added, and is there a way to use it without it being locked to a staff?
>>567622430but I like playing the poos
>>567625036This is a skill from a unique staff, so no, you'll have to use it.
what the fuck am I suppose to do before the patch drops
>>567624724This would be a huge buff for bow players right? The only time I died playing Deadeye back in 0.1 was one shots
I'm going to say it.The spell icons in poe2 suck shit ass. All my lightning spells are a mush of blue and white. Why is it so hard to have clear symbols?
>>567623405No
>gennie died mid poo1 seasonMakes ya think
Bring back Scourge league, Jonathan
Only ds_lily can save /poeg/.Debate me.You wont.
>>567627993holy sex
poo...
It's funny seeing all the people coming back to PoE2, remembering how many dogshit design decisions are in the game, asking for solutions, and knowing none of it will be in 0.5
>>567628269I keep coming back to PoE2 because I haven't found the ultra cheap all content clear build yet, but I feel like I'm very, very close. Just two more leagues...
Doom posters are SHAKING right now that Jonathan will deliver the best patch of all time in just a week.
>>567628269I come back because it's fun
I'm so bored
>>567621390she'll probably get a modest nerf of her own.
>>567628720Many are saying this
actually doing my job all this week and next so I can build up a full report of project progress to lean back on while i steal time to play 0.5
>>567628720ThisI've created two characters this month, and I'm barely holding myself back from creating another one
>>567627509ggg've started calling the Breach demons Scourge now, so maybe it never went away.
>>567629629Aren't they hiveborn now?
>>567621390If they remove instaleech, you are probably not sustaining shit on her.
>old beyond>scourge cooking>scourged maps>replacing poe2 maps with poe1'sthe DREAM
HIVEBORNWITH ME
Why are poe2's maps so bad thoughHalf of them are designed to waste your timeThe other half are so small and pointless they're not worth the time spent clicking things to open them
>>567630145funny how they added a couple PoE2-like layouts to PoE1 before PoE2 launched and they were all universally hated but GGG didn't take any feedback to heart
>>567630145Atleast half the poo1 layouts suck donkey balls, if not 75%
>>567630145D4 unironically has better corridor maps than poe2 thanks to actual movement abilities
>>567630705its not THAT badthere are like 10 layouts that are really fucking bad and another 10 that have bosses with super long rp, everything else is tolerable to good
>>567630705>15 years of metrics showing which map layouts are good and actually played>ignore them all
>>567630705I remember doing an actual comparison of % of good layouts. PoE1 is like 70% good layouts, PoE2 was like 5% good layouts (note this was 0.2 I think, it has gotten better since then).
>good map layout are popular>bad map layout are not popularwhat if we pump more bad map layout to make it popular
Trying to pander to community opinion is never a good idea. Players don't know what they want.
Kind of a meaningless conversation considering that "good layout" basically just means one long corridor with no deviations.
I love to backtrack they should make more dungeon tileset with thousands of deadends
Good layout in poo1 players mind = as close as possible to a cookie clicker
>>567631582Endgame strategy in Cookie Clicker is much more complex than anything in Poe 1.
>>567631059designing map layouts around chronically onlined fulltime wage-caged poo1&2streamers is something I do not want. fuck poo1 maps
>>567627993he fuckin wishes he looked like that.
forking river seems hated but i consider it a good map because- somewhat linear with pockets that don't deviate too far from the path- great density, you're never not fighting something- good progression of locales, you actually feel like you're going somewhere- looks nice- boss is challenging but fun to fight
>>567631786I don't even know what this map is
>>567631786Man said forking rivers is a good layoutStop the cap
>>567631365it does not
>>567631365dunes isn't a corridor
>hurrrr durrrrr muh mapsstreamline autist virgins will never understand us surprise sperg chads. you open a map and get the same thing you got for the last 1000 times. I open a map and have literally no idea what comes next. your life is dull, boring and pointless. my life is full of turns and events. you are unhappy, burned out and rotten. I am scarred, hardened and wise. lower your tone when you speak about me.
>>567631786I agree though I don't like the teleport part and the curve of the path.
>>567621343What makes specter comfy? The few times I tried minion builds in 2 it was pretty painful and slow. Command skills have to be some of the worst decisions made
>>567632286poe2 wants every map to be its own distinct individual adventurebut they are really just too fucking long with too many spaces of nothing
>>567632286unironically true8 years later and I still recognize 10 maps by name
>>567622798Assuming every singular piece of gear can give you like 200 ward (this is pretty generous), scaling up to 100% via 20 travel nodes gives you about 2000 ward. Which is about the same (and almost the same mechanic) as Darkness, just applied after ES and life. Not bad, given it's effectively 2000 extra HP. I still don't think it's very good though
>>567631226I just want to play only good map layout. Playing bad map layout makes me want to kill myself then uninstall the game.
>>567632504Isn't that what they're trying to fix with this update?
Nearly a year and a half later, is 'poe2 is bad' still accurate?Do you think it helped or hindered the game?
>>567632729KEK LMAO
>never tell anyone your pas sword
>>567624831>>567623504Anon is huffing BIIG copium if he thinks you will ever get more than 2k ward
>ggg gives you a big shit on a plate>nah man I don't like eating shit>ggg portions the big shit into smaller pieces of shit and arranges them in some sort of order with a big chunk in the middle>thanks ggg this is completely different! now this is the type of shit I like eating!why are poopgers like this?!
league is still over a week out and I have nothing to fucking play. when did games become so dull?
>>567622798>We discussed this yesterday but picrel is the primary method of converting ward to damage.Known so far, there's quite a few Kalrugan skills and supports we gotta wait to release to see.>>567623504>More realistic would be 5k ward, giving you ~300 flat (runic infusion + ward skill base cost) which is effectively nothing.I think it depends on where it sits in the damage formula. For reference, the sort-highest physical damage on a weapon currently listed for trade in Fate of the Vaal is a Massive Greathammer with 79+146% increased physical damage and adds 52-85 physical damage, landing at 803-1154. So ~300 applied at the "bottom" of all modifiers past that is ~37% increased minimum damage and ~26% increased maximum damage.Over in the one-handed only spears, the sort-highest physical damage currently listed for FotV trade is 362-675. +300 in THAT case is ~83% increased minimum and ~44% increased maximum damage, giving you MUCH fatter Rakes. Terribly optimistic, of course, it's probably going to miss some important modifiers.>>567629804I heard the Leach nerf was the opposite direction of making them no longer stack, so I think truly instant Leech is better off.
>>567633063play doom wads
>>567633042what do you want to see in poop2?
>>567633104Their statement was that they wanted leeches to no longer stack and instead focus on the singular highest leech your character is working with at the time, so instant leech might stay stackable since it functions more like instant healing than a stacking leech
>>567631059The data shows that the pooptard's platonically ideal maps are Flat Plane and Featureless Hallway. These games are already spergy enough. If we let the inmates run the asylum then every bit of soul would be stripped out of this game in the name of efficiency.
>>567633063The amount of games installed, played for 20 minutes, and then uninstalled this year is staggering. Everything is so low quality and soulless lately.
>>567632504the game is designed to complete maps as fast as possible because loot comes from piling up bonuses on league content. Plus they are incentivizing exploring the atlas with special maps with good rewards so unless they change the entire game exploring singular maps slowly will always be supbar
>>567632481the zealots from interludes use spark so the coverage is very good. Lich adds a lot of damage to your minions and gives you good survivability. I call it comfy because the damage and clear is good for low investment and you just run around and collect loot, better than the screen cancer vaal guys everyone swears by imo
>checks thread>half the post is about poop or shitthe pajeetification of this thread needs to be a studied
>game is called dogshit of exile 2>why is everyone talking about shit?!gee whizz retard, idk
>>567633104>I heard the Leach nerf was the opposite direction of making them no longer stack, so I think truly instant Leech is better off.Yes, leech will be one instance. Insta leech sort of bypasses that through ignoring recovery rate, so they've said they are removing it from the game. Atziri's acuity gloves were used by 50% of blood mages last league, the rest used the belt, but that won't work either, since 1 instance on some shitty spark will get you no recovery
>>567633104>Known so far, there's quite a few Kalrugan skills and supports we gotta wait to release to see.Knowing how sly GGG are with their showcases, i'm pretty sure there are 3 kalguurian skills at most (they showcased what, two?). They do this shit all the time
Is Jonathan fat because he's retarded or retarded because he's fat?
>>567633292Poop of Infinity (mobile)You do nothing but zoom zoom autobomber you way through endless corridors. No campaign, no progression, full endgame gear from the start.How do you like my game?
>>567633889>removing instant leech entirelyWell, I guess they just want leech builds to be unreliable
>>567634278that's an 8 figure idea at least. someone fund this man.
Doubles and the interludes come back in 1.1 as an alternative campaign path once you've completed it once in a league
3 campaigns1 game
Piss and shit2 games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0Ziz is baiting again, hard
>>567633889>Insta leech sort of bypasses that through ignoring recovery rate, so they've said they are removing it from the game....I do not recall this. Would you happen to have a source?>Atziri's acuity gloves were used by 50% of blood mages last league, the rest used the belt, but that won't work either, since 1 instance on some shitty spark will get you no recoveryAren't the sparks Cast On Crit/Elemental Ailment sticks for Comet-spam anyways?>>567634376Not so much "unreliable" as it is "not completely turn off attrition" as it apparently keeps degenerating into.
>>567635648what's the bait? he got coached by a guy who has won a bunch of poe2 races
>>567635801making newbies think they can do it too
>>567635851I'm sure there's some useful info in there, probably going to watch the video myself
>>567636046YEah didnt know about the agnes checkpoint reset
How much heat will Fubgun get when they inevitably nerf twisters into the ground
>>567636078hes going LA anyways
>>567633889why did people even use those? you can also get instant leech from heart of the well at a far lower opportunity cost
>>567636137He's trying to direct GGG's attention away from bows
they're not going to nerf much stop overreacting you fucking retards
>Like the best stuff from the best creators is free, so it's kind of weird that the inferior creators are charging
>>567636320kek she thinks that
>>567636530Did he really say that?
>>567636581Yes
>>567636320Come on its going to be a massacre. They know they can be extra brutal because they already built a ton of hype and people just want a new league already
>>567636530streamers are lashing out because they feel threatened
>>567636581
>>567636530making a point of not even opening his vid but I'm gonna open a few GuyThatDies vids now.
The inferior creators / races
>>567636530he's right though
I'm out of the loop do we think GGG are going to nerf CoC comet at all?
WHY DID THEY NOT HIRE POE1s WITCH VA
when is poe 3.29 coming out gamers?
>>567636246Quite a bit less of your overall Leech will be instant as a Blood Mage thanks to the base crit replacement, and that's one of... 35 prefixes? And it's only obtained when you can get a Rogue Exile and Abyss to collide.
>>5676367872027
>>567636078every single league he hypes up some random starter to distract the retards, then plays something else.
isn't deadeye better than amazon overall for twisters? I mean I guess amazon is good for campaign but for mapping deadeye seems like a no brainer
>>567636720Australians confirmed for being 3rd worlders
>>567636764It'll be lucky to only get away with only a triple tap
>>567636901>then plays something elsebows
>>567636246heart of the well is 15% of leech being instant on a max roll. acuity is, on the CoC builds that use it, 100%.
>>567635796>...I do not recall this. Would you happen to have a source?qna 1:36:43Now technically he said "we're removing some instant leech", but i just assume he's being evasive here. There are only 2 sources of insta leech in the game, and what is "some" then? Gloves are the most likely target, because barely anyone uses vaal pact, and leaving it intact would conflict with the original intent of making leech heavily gated>Aren't the sparks Cast On Crit/Elemental Ailment sticks for Comet-spam anyways?Mostly, some used the breach ammy, but leech from spark is still a factor when it's unlimited stacks, especially if it's insta on crit on 100% crit spell. Not so much when it's just one and your single cast cost is 1/4 of your life.
Predict the S+++ comfy starter
>>567633292jonathan already sucked out all the sovl of poe
>>567637241LA LR
>>567635796>>567637236Leech has a cap on it
>>567637241incinerate oil grenade (unnerfed)
>literally state now is the time for balanceanyone thinking there wont be nerfs across everything is retarded.in fact they could overnerf if they want since they'll have plenty of event leagues to change it between now and 1.0
>>567637496>since they'll have plenty of event leagues to change it between now and 1.0What? This is the last league before 1.0
>>567636787what do girls smell like? I heard their armpits smell different than mens.
>>567637241Some pathfinder bow/xbow shit that is now impossible to predict but will arise as a result of them buffing something underplayed, like concoctions.
>>567637241boneshatter
Predict how many cocks this anon >>567637241 took in his ass this year so far
>>567637571They are gonna do 1 or 2 league reset "events" to do balance between 0.5 and 1.0
>>567637713>>567637587
>>567637713654
The only thing they need to do to twisters is to make ice-tipped arrows 10% conversion (it's just a tip after all). It completely kills campaign build and endgame you can do whatever fucking clunky shit you want
>>567637241oracle hollow palm
why can't ggg make something like LALR combo to other weapons
>>567637236>There are only 2 sources of insta leechI forgot the well jewel i guess, so 3. I still don't believe they will leave any escape hatches if they can help it
>>567638075can we not nerf leveling builds ever again?
>>567637636maaaan i hate that we got WARRIOR instead of marauderwere never gonna get marauder are we
>>567638075>It completely kills campaign buildbro please have you never played twister pre-ice tipped
SIXMONTHSWITHOUTNEWCLASSESOR SKILLSLMAOOOOOO
>>567638178Rolling slam boneshatter and glacial cascade frozen locus. EnjoyLALR is in pretty bad state compared to pre 0.4 btw
>>567638294Aren't we getting like 30 new skills in 0.5?
>>567638294>SKILLS
>>567638390so are these just vaal skills
>>567638390>release drops>it's literally just 2 showcased skillsevery time
BUT MUH DUELIST
>>567638229yeah man i cant wait to cleave and uhhhh lacerate the entire campaign
>>567638535No, ward seems to regen
>>567636787many people are saying this and looking like this, myself included
>>567638535Nope. From what they showed us, it looks like completely new skills that aren't tied to any specific weapon.>>567638538It says 17 on that artwork, but in the announcement they mentioned 25.
>>567638535Seems more like skills that use ES as a resource while you have PoE1 EB since you can just put ward on all your gear. Do we know how quick ward recovers in PoE2?>>567638538retard
>>56763717515% instant leech is enough to instantly go to 100% life on those builds cause spark and comet hit so frequently. it doesnt matter
JONATROON
>>567638865i pray all 17 are spells
>>567637636i managed to do 51 minute act 1 while killing the optional worm boss as earthquake, shit is actually quite comfy with overabundance + less duration
>>567638951>Do we know how quick ward recovers in PoE2?No, but they mentioned that you'll be able to influence that. I'm curious if there will be nodes on the passive tree because this whole ward thing isn't a seasonal feature, it's planned to stay in the game.
One more sleepie until patch notes
>>567639103Most of them look like gimmick/obtuse comboslop
The brownoid was right all along to shit on the poe1 grifters. Every time they come back to the game they shit it up and cause moronic drama.
>>567637587depends on the girl, but scent is a natural indicator of histocompatibility complexes, and a girl who's compatible with you smells amazing.
>>567639450Many are saying this
>>567638390>borrow power the skill
>>567640089>borrow power?
>>567638390>>567638535So about warden uhm i dont want ANOTHER ressource i have to worry aboutNo idea how to regen it eitherFlasks dont regen
Swords teaser TODAY, are you guys ready?
>>567640089retard
much like gachaniggers, poo1 niggers get the rope
>>567640175SWORD THIS
>>567640153Anon seems to be under the impression that Kalguuran skills are going to be seasonal content.>>567640164>Flasks dont regen*laffs in Blood Mage*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsQxr0-Lg0IT IS FUCKING UPPPPPPPP
I kinda want to try poo1 but I'm not fuckin with click to move, how is it on controller?
>>567640960>3hziz is doing it under 2.5 btw
CRINGE
>>5676414032.5 hours to get back to act 3 after dying to monke is pretty good
>>567621247ur coping bro
>>567640960>ziz can do campaign in 3 hours>biggest criticism of poop2 is that the campaign is too longreally makes you think
>>567640974its alright but the game was designed around click to movemovement skills suck with wasd / controller and you cant cast while moving
Who are we watching when the patch notes drop tomorrow?
>>567642148"accidentally" touching smokie's cock during sex to trigger her dysphoria!
>>567642148smokie looks like THAT?
>>567642148how come smokie didnt go into vtubing for real? she'd easily make it big
>>567642148biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiignoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
>>567642148like always, mathil
>>567642148lily probablyor fubby
>he is a jingakh
>>567642148ruetoo
>>567642148its gotta be mathil. the rest are zoomer scum or swiss cheese brain uncs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKid6ECuoFUone of the big poe2 creatorshow does he stack up to poo1ers
>>567642770rather chop my ears off than listen to this greasy fuck
>>567642148i watch everyone but skip to the nerf portion to watch them whine
>>567642148i think i found someone to pollinate
are darth microtransaction, ghazatv and talkativetri still the figureheads of poe2?grim
>>567642920>anon can't afford to get over the paywallgrim
>>567642148GuyThatDies, I paid for the HEADHUNTER patreon service.
>still paying attention to d4 tourists and the minioncuckgrim
>>567640960Ok but when is the streamer client issue going to be addressed
>>567642148musk
>look outside>birds are chirping>the sun is rising>realize what time it is>dawngrim
>>567643252What about the HC client?
i want to play poe but not poe2can we have a new poe1 league instead please
>>567642920People that say that are tourists,they just get interviews with the devs and that's it, the face of PoE is still ben_ for races, quin69 for moronic content, zizaran for SSF builds and fubgun for whatever is OP on trade on the patch.
>>567642920>figureheadsdeepthroating everything the devs do in a pathetic attempt to get exposure doesn't make you a figurehead. Their game knowledge is less than a casual reddit user and they've collectively never made a well rounded build
>>567643312Mark_GGG dunking on retards on the forums was one of my favorite things about the original closed beta
>>567643498>deepthroating everything the devs do in a pathetic attempt to get exposure doesn't make you a figurehead.This 100% doesn't matter though, being a figurehead just requires you to be the loudest more "influential" person there is. Bex was a GGG figurehead and I doubt she actually understands the game at all.
cant stop thinking about lily
>>567643686>most influentialThere is a difference between perceived influence from a publishers perspective and actual influence with the community. Most people recognize these plants for what they are
>>567643317noHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>567643772i havent looked at pooeg in a few months have there been any noteworthy lily images
>>567643790ghazzy has been playing poe for at least 10 years and has interviewed various devs from ggg several times.
>>567643262>"hm...">hovers mouse over link to poe forum patch notes thread>clicks user name of the guy who posted the link>nothing happens>"patch notes... it's always good to note a patch when you make a game...">"hmmm..."
>>567643996and is the recognized name that these plants are being attached to in an attempt to force some credibility on them. It's basic appeal to authority with some bozos that came out of absolutely nowhere yet suddenly are first in line for dev access
>>567644184>yet suddenly are first in line for dev accessyou can be the first in line for dev access if you mail GGG and politely ask for an interview and show them your youtube channel for which the interview is for.
The worst part of PoE2 is bosses immunity phases being RNG based and not on life % like in PoE1:>Viper Napuatzi can chain immunities in campaign and maps where you need to wait 30 seconds for a glorified rollslop session because Jonathan thinks this is fun>Doryani has the same bug from launch where he fails to pass to phase 2 after HP check, so we need to wait for his entire KIT of skills to be used so he can start phase 2>Great White One (the shark), can start with going under the ground and you have to eat his dick for 15 seconds because GGG thinks this is kino>Yama the White (the talking monkey) is the worst offender, he has 3 skills that makes him immune and he can chain those skills, so you can get a kill in 15 seconds because he decided to use the normal skills or in 1 minute because he decided to create copies of the player or copies of himself to jump at you
>>567644407wont be a problem when they remove all the cheater skills
are patch notes today or t omorrow?
>>567642148gonna wait for mathil's TLDR video after I read through them myself to make sure I came to the correct opinion on every note
>>567644724in a couple of hours
>>567644724tomorrow
Remember, if the patch notes being released tomorrow DO NOT attempt to "train" anything popular, GGG is going to nerf as they did on previous patches and even so they can do last minute changes, they are pathetic.
>>567644724in ~20 hours not in ~2 hours
>>567642770All poe2 creators are in the dim to midwit range and have nothing to contribute to any meaningful discussion.
it is 21:00i go to bed in 1 houris patch note today or tomorrow
>>567644724in 2-20 hours
>>567645057https://poe2db.tw/
What if... 0.5... i-is j-just a 9/10 patch?
>>567645110Reminder that this retard predicted the 0.5 launch in June and was schizobabbling about it for months
>>567645268I think it'll be more of a 0.5/10 patch
>>567645321I dont give a shit I'm just teaching a nigga to fish
>>567644407Viper can actually get her phases skipped if you deal tons of damage to her, but yeah if you can't go fast enough she'll just back to back invul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zEwuq7-ZAI fell for the WELL ROUNDED BEAST, it was my worst leaguestarter of all time... Even so... I miss him so much bros...
>>567645268the so called "endgame" changes look like pure slop its basically just a few hours of quest content to give the normies a carrot instead of quitting when they finish the campaignthe new atlas tree is even worse than the old one, whats the point in even having the tree if you get enough points to take every node? new league mechanic looks like shit ritual changes are the only thing that looks goodat the end of the day its still the same shit of needing to micromanage tablets and scouting the infinite atlas for decent map layouts, both of which makes you want to close the game instead of putting in 1 more map
>>567645268I swear to god I will jump of a bridge. I am going to take a 3 week vacation for this stupid league.
>>567645896uhhh anon the keystone nodes have MULTIPLE CHOICESthere is LIMITLESS possibility
>>567645932I will be working at the weekend but I already contracted a jeet on TFT to do the campaign for me, gonna take a 2 week vacation in tuesday after launch, hopefully you guys beta test everything for me.
reminderwe got 0.5 for the next 6+ months
>>567645932i took 2 days
>>567645932Never understood taking days off for a free game
>>567646347uh sweetie they're gonna reset the economy once or twice
>>567646463and fubgun is gonna make billions, as are the other no lifers
>>567646530sorry he's just better than you ;)
>>567646426not working> working
>>567646463I don't really understand this economy reset nonsense when they don't even bother fixing what "broke" it in the first place.
>>567646750I think Mark said they're gonna do some balance changes with them as well? But who knows if that's actually gonna happen
>>567646347they havent said anything about how this will affect poe1, right? like not even a "haha we will try our best to release 3.29 on schedule"fucking hell i might have to get a job or something
>>567646872Balance changes and a bit more content that they didn't have time to finish. In particular he mentioned unique items.
>>567647086
>>567647086No, but we can assume that 1s releases are just anchored on 2s instead of it following its own flow. So 3.29 will be 2-3 months after 0.5
>>567647086>3.29Anon....
pounce should be a level 7 skill gem and leap slam should be a level 3 skill gem. swap their places and watch everyone seethe
>>567636787Exactly equidistant to 0.5 and exilecon, so August would be my guess
>>567646347I bet everything on this being the last patch before december release
My league start?Twisters until act 3 after i get 3rd and 4th asc points i will skill "Unique beasts can be tamed" and will run with big ass monkey and bear.If shit sucks, i will have to switch to Owl build and do the "roll boy, roll" dance Jonathan wants me to do before casting spells.
Are there good unique boots or does everyone have to play with triple res movement speed shoes
>>567647086>>567647286I'm ngl bros, I'd rather they just do Phrecia shit and focus on actually developing PoE2 so we can get out of this two games at the same time bullshit
>>567647637They straight up said that would be the case
>>567647678Bones of Ullir or whatever they're called are kinda important for lich.Characters that use attack-to-move tech also don't need movespeed boots.
Are patch notes coming out on the 21st, NZ time?So, basically in a few hours?
>>567647898Nah, the next day. I got baited too.You can see this on poedb btw, there's a countdown every time they're announced.
>>567647836>Characters that use attack-to-move tech also don't need movespeed boots.how does this work with animal forms? like does movement speed affect bear and wolf form?
>>567645896>whats the point in even having the tree if you get enough points to take every node?the order you take them matters because there is no expectation that players will finish it before reaching a natural end point and quitting until next league. i.e. it's really bait to try to keep people playing instead of being a fake choice like the poe1 atlas tree (because you're always going to spec into the content you're running anyway).
>defenses are mostly useless>just enough to survive a random white mob volley is more than enough>one shots will one shot you anywaysokay, how am I supposed to play slow and meaningful if the only thing I can stack meaningfully is damage to delete every threat before it can react?
>>567647983It's not done with animal forms (to my knowledge), I think people only use whirling slash and boneshatter for that purpose, probably works with any attack that moves you forward a bit.So you need a secondary weapon cuz I don't think any of the animal form attacks are favorable.>like does movement speed affect bear and wolf form?it's based off attack speed.
>how am I supposed to play slow and meaningful
>>567648039they're making defenses more meaningful this patch, not sure exactly how. good luck with the damage stacking to you and fubgun.
>>567646371brave, you expect no queue, server lags and rollback in those first days?
I'm going to be busy for 2 weeks after league start. Thanks for bug testing everything for me, bros.
>>567648251ggg haven't rolled back for a while and generally I get dropped back to the queue once per launch, which starts on time. dunno why blizzard can't get it right.
never EVER post that fucking picture again anon fuck you
>>567648380
>>567647758this but EoS PoE2 and instead focus on making the good version of it (4.0 before the ruthless woke mindvirus took over GGG)
>>567648239>they're making defenses more meaningful this patchplease god. defense stacking is my favorite thing in ARPG and it's been a drought so far.
>>567648001>a fake choice like the poe1 atlas tree (because you're always going to spec into the content you're running anyway)theres a lot of choice in the poe1 atlas tree, especially if you are doing something that doesnt need all the explicit + quant nodes + another 50 points for a league mechanic and eldritch altars. ask people what trees they use for farming beasts, boxes or betrayal and you will get a lot of different answerseven mechanic + quant trees still have the option to use quant shrines if you use gull + blunderbore this league
>>567648239>make defenses more meaningful by allowing more white mobs to one shot you lategameSasuga
Which of these builds are fun and i can feasibly play ssf before the new league starts? I think ive unironically played none of the listed things.
Why am i not surprised poo1ggers are the type of people to say woke mindvirus unironically
>>567648763plants are very powerful, the only viable spell build you can play right from the start
>>567648763to think coc comet is not the number 1 thing that is going to get nuked is the most braindead retarded naive take i have ever seen every fucking build on poe2ninja is coc comet every single fucking one
>>567621532my niggy knows
as an EU fag I can just go to sleep right? tomorrow when I wake up surely patch notes will be up and everyone will be perfectly calm and civil about it
>>567649094CoC comet is basically intended gameplay. It will get nerfed but it will still function and if you really like it, you'll be able to play it.
>>567649169As Eu fag you can also not bother launching the game for like 3 days after 0.5 since servers will be dead
>>567649169patch notes in exactly 25 hours you fucking retarded mongoloid
>>567649169Eubro, servers are gonna be absolute dogshit for weeks on end
>>5676491692.5 hours
>>567649169patchers up in 4h
>>567649291you really think they'll post patch notes at 9-10 in the fucking morning? that seems extremely unlikely
>>567648763why is snipe always so high up here? is this some campaign thing? nobody was playing snipe in .4
>>567649192
>>567648667in ssf you actually already had to care about defenses, ggg have been good at making it slowly more playable patch by patch so I'm assuming this won't be too much of a reset back to 0.1's brutal slog up to t15.
>>567649405>you really think they'd post something at the same time they post literally everything else and the time when all their livestreams start?
>>567649241>>567649281I'm just gonna play on US east
>>567649562Did that for 0.4 work surprisingly well
I just want them to change Tornado so you dont have to do the elemental ground shit. I don't care if there's a different combo, like it uses power charges or you need to move around or whatever, I just want my cool tornado to do good damage and not look like a fucking pride parade with all the extra particle effects.
>>567649491Would it kill you physically to post something at least slightly interesting or insightful, or is this thread just a vehicle for you to pretend you're a cute girl for a fleeting moment by posting shitty reaction images?
>>567649495>ssfno thanks, I am sperg, not an autist
>>567648675just saying filling the tree in doesn't mean zero choice. if anything it could have the advantage of the "run every map once" system atlas completion system that gets zizaran hard, where the game pats you on the head for doing all the things on the checklist it gave you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpTaBedISxERUH ROH SISTERS
>>567649632They need to buff-phys only. Impale could be a lot stronger.
>>567649462the playerbase has no fucking idea what is op until it is shown by someone.
>>567649529sorry I'm not terminally online nor do I keep track of things like thatI'll take your word for it but it still seem strange not to hold a meeting and discuss about it before releasing something so important
>>567637372Yeah but this cap doesn't matter when it's higher than your total life and can be extended by just hitting again. Leech cap only matters if it can't be refreshed
>>567649905>I'll take your word for it but it still seem strange not to hold a meeting and discuss about it before releasing something so importantThis is the company that prerecorded a video where the Game Director stated that he didn't realize taking all the devs off a game would result in no dev work being done on said game.
>>567649923Leech is now single source, only 1 instance of buff active, biggest only.Higher hits = more leechCap to amount of damage that can leech.More leech early game.No more leech resist on monsters.Up to 40% of total life per second (goal).Investing in leech to give more return that to invest in damage (recovery wise) Leech is dead
>>567648763they won't nerf twisters themselves at all. it will be the interactions with ice-tipped-arrows and the number of extra twisters you can get easily.
>>567649814man, imagine trying to do actual work and some woman walks up to you and asks you some dumbass redditor's question because it happened to get enough upvotes.
>>567649192>you'll be able to play itwith mirrior tier gear and it will still be less good than casting comet yourself. the vision demands it.
>>567649975I mean yeah, how could he have known???there's literally no way to know thatit's impossibleare you asking the impossible out of ol' jonathan?
>>567648763>ssf onlyMight as well play herald of ice stuff with ghost dance and armor explosions, herald is unironically going to get taken out back
>>567649672you know exactly what the image is supposed to portray whatever the fucking word is if you think coc comet is not going to get gang raped by ggg after 0.4 temple and every single build on poe ninja using it which btw i have never seen that before happen all classes using it you are on full fucking copium
Can anyone explain to me somethingCurrent "best build" is cast on crit comet. But why not just cast comet yourself if its such good spell?
Leech is going to be busted I just know they will fuck up the numbers somehow
>>567649674guilty. I only came back to poe1 when they added ruthless mode
>>567637713>this year so far20 at minimum considering weekends, 140 at most.
>>567649992Was leech really that broken? I thought elemental builds couldn't even leech to begin with
>>567650258because it has a 2 second cast time that gets bypassed when triggered
Wait is tyty seriously bitching and crying 24/7 about poe 2 while playing poe 2?Why doesnt he and ben just NOT play the game if they hate it so much?
>>567650258why cast yourself when you can have coc cast it for youthen you can cast something else while coc casts cometdouble the caststriple the clear
>>567650257>you know exactly what the image is supposed to portray no, I have no fucking idea, it's retarded smugness directed at a post which has nothing to be smug about. >if you think coc comet is not going to get gang raped by ggg I wrote exactly what I think. You should've read it and thought about it, and argued against it if you disagree.>btw i have never seen that before happen all classes using itdid you sleep through the lightning spear patch?
>>567638390>GENERATE, THEN>SPEND!!!!
>>567650553niggas need to eat
>>567650553You've never seen people complaining about work while working?
>>567650257I hope you understand he's baiting you into posting more images to provide extra ids so he can compile your posts from the archive.
>>567640960>not buying an ad>being this brown
>>567650628>did you sleep through the lightning spear patch?every class didnt use lightning spear, its not just added damage to an already existing build they are not the same thing and when ggg finds something that is a must for every build they nerf the fuck out of it until its niche
>>567650814>every class didnt use lightning spearyes it did, literally every class, you can check poeninja.
>>567650909cope and sneed your shits getting nerfed to fuck
>>567650539also bypasses the dogshit jump mechanic it has
>>567650257>every single build on poe ninja using it which btw i have never seen that before happen all classes weren't here for the 0.2 Lightning Spear fiasco?
>>567650760oh shit schizo is back?
>>567650553>and benthe only thing ben did was talk about how absolutely dogshit the end game is and that there's no hope for it, every jonatroon asslicker sperged out and said he was wrong.ben realised he is surrounded by mouth breathing troglodytes and just kinda stopped talking about how dogshit poop2 is.
>>567650694Ofcourse i have but he isnt complaining about streaming he’s complaining about the game he’s streaming, which is 100% up to him
>>567651013>>567650814
"Why does PoE2 exist?"
>>567650814>>567650909>>567650983one side effect of gear being so powerful in poe2 is that every class just using the current broken skill is something we're going to have to get used to. the passive tree doesn't provide guardrails in the same way as poe1.
>>567651082>and there's no hope for itwow what a reasonable measured statement, clearly ben was being an objective observer when he said that.
>>567651124Is he known as a variety streamer? The game is his lifeline, while the choice of game is technically up to him, it's really a choice between maintaining his income and completely demolishing it.
>>567651136now that's a question worth asking since the whole point was for poe2 to be a completely different than poe1 but it seems jonatroon is on a gaslighting tour telling everyone how >ACTUALLY I ALWAYS WANTED POE2 TO BE LIKE POE1if that was the case why bother making a whole ass different game?
remember when poo1's endgame was fighting normal atziri rofl
>>567651168This problem also stems from skills being the way they are.Skills have inbuilt comboslop mechanics/restrictions built into them, so there are only a few broadly viable skills per weapon type. There aren't anywhere enough of flavours "do damage in X shape", so people just pick whatever is playable (not too conditional or with conditions that are easy to meet) and has the best numbers.If we had more diversity of skills that were generic and could be used without comboslop and cooldowns, people would play worse skills that are cool to them.
there are youtubers who think people will pay them on mass for a build guide
>>567651082he's just mad he wont be able to poopsock poe2 races and basically guaranteed win.somebody can outskill him rather than outgear him now.
>>567651334he was because he explained how the end game is built on bad pillars, one of which is no longer a factor today (towers)you'll have to watch the video to understand the others
>>567651136I remember this day. The day when one man, one legend, one CHAD, asked this and raped MILIONS! And noone... NOONE.. not even Jonatron himself ... has been able to asnwer this. I will always carry you in my heart. Love you, Ben_
>>567651624it's "en masse", you illiterate tranny faggot groomer
>>567651495he didn't say either thing anon. jonathan doesn't make sweeping commitments generally because he's not a retard. >we want to tone down how fast poe1 is>OMG JONATHAN SAID HE WANTED POE2 TO BE GLACIALLY SLOW >NOW HE BACKTRACKED BY ADDING SPRINT OMG POE2 IS THE SAME AS POE1
>>567651740its on mass now idiocracy
bakedchicken
>>567651624>Do thing for free>Get no money>Do same thing but hide it behind a paywall, maybe add in some shit>Get slightly more money since people are stupid
>>567651432it was his choice to tie his finances to playing video games made by GGG though
I turned one of my premium tabs into merchant tab? Can i undo it?
>>567651595the skills brainless enough for a large, vocal swathe of the playerbase will always be a subset of the total skills in the game. as long as combo players still get enough damage for that style to be worth using then that's fine.
>>567651865>can i undo it?
>>567651624>one (1) guy pays for niggerthatwantsgibs build guide>makes the build>everyone else copies his build from poe ninjato be honest what could possibly be so special about a fucking campaign build that requires a paywall it's a fucking leveling fucking guide holy fuck, just use anything holy shit
>>567651816Well yeah, everyone ties their finances to something when they pick a career. Sometimes they end up regretting their decision.
>>567651914Well thats dumbIn this case why the fuck ggg sells "5 merchant tabs" and "5 premium tabs" bundle for same 200 coins?
>>567652010You can apply the same logic to OF and it's still a thing.
>>567649094coc comet feels like a poe1 build that shit is GONE 0.5
>>567652305no you can't because they are completely different things
>>567652010Now ask yourself, how are sites like bangros, brazzers, naughtyamerica are still in bussiness one guy can leak all their videos for free?
>>567651889>the skills brainless enough for a large, vocal swathe of the playerbase will always be a subset of the total skills in the game.There's no need for that. If they gave us Lightning Arrow, Red Lightning Arrow and Purple Lighning Arrow, you'd see all 3 used.>as long as combo players still get enough damage for that style to be worth using then that's fine.I'm not arguing that, I just think the game needs:1) more non-combo skills2) move some of the combo stuff out of skill gems and into support gems instead
>>567652010paywalled porn exists when I can just go to google and type big honking clown bazongas and be flooded with pornography for free
>>567652396Exblain. Both are effectively just images, I don't think either can even claim copyright if those get leaked.
>>567652428you're so stupid holy shit
>>567652010>to be honest what could possibly be so special about a fucking campaign build that requires a paywalldo you want a world first or not?
>>567652606>1) more non-combo skills>If they gave us Lightning Arrow, Red Lightning Arrow and Purple Lighning Arrowjust let everyone tranmog their bows as swords and pretend they're playing Lightning Strike and we can even have swords in the game.
>>567652656nta but the big OF people absolutely hire guys to comb the internet and send takedowns of stolen content, why do you think those sharing sites keep getting shut down?
This baffles and scares poo1 niggers
>>567643909not real ones but some anon made a bunch of explicit hardcore AI porn featuring lily (male)
>>567652893Why does the dodge roll exist?
>>567652640Eh I've paid for porn before. Sometimes there is a scene I can't find the full version of for free and I cave
>>567652773Don't get cute with me. POE1 has that kind of diversity and as a result you can find that a huge percentage of skills have hundreds of players if not thousands.POE2 has like 30 skills total, barely enough to fill 1 vendor tab of POE1. And a good part of them are completely dead (armour breaker lol).
>>567652893wait but thats my quicksilver button!!?
Are we winning this war?
>>567652789I'm aware but I can't imagine a scenario some paywalled build will be treated the same way.
>>567653139>armour breaker>one of the strongest single target debuffs>deadat least pretend you've played the game before
>>567652606>If they gave us Lightning Arrow, Red Lightning Arrow and Purple Lighning Arrow, you'd see all 3 used.this would definitely happen, but GGG don't want to waste time behaving like Blizzard. combos give them more design space and potential to create playstyles that feel different.
>>567650665more like, if you dont want to spend it, it functions as a backup life bar & if you are confident you wont need it you can spend your backup life bar offensively (kino)
is the honeymoon phase over and can I say that mirage league fucking sucked, the new atlas sucked, and astrolabes are dogshit? one of the worst leagues i've played in poe1 in recent memory. thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>>567653546new atlas good in concept the UI is just badastrolabias are fine but they are not common enoughMirage as a mechanic is bad though
>>567653315Ok show me your character that has armourbreaker (the mace skill) slotted in.Take a screenshot. Take a fucking screenshot or I'll fucking kill you.I've played maces as leaguestart every fucking league since EA launched.>>567653332I think the selection of skills is currently WOEFUL and even using very cheap techniques like reskinning existing skills and changing 1 lines about them would be welcome as far as I'm concerned. I'm not asking for a suite of new animations, I would just like more things to build around.Give me existing spells and attacks in different shapes.
>>567653139you get that if every skill is "projectile that does damage", it doesn't necessarily matter very much if the underlying math that creates the total damage # is different right? 30 skills that are all meaningfully differentiated is 30 skills. 200 skills that are not meaningfully differentiated can be reduced to fewer than 30 different gameplay styles (and in most games usually are). the issue is that 30 different styles won't necessarily all be appealing to the entire playerbase because a lot of people only want to play in 1-2 ways.
>>567653905>30 skills that are all meaningfully differentiated is 30 skillsSo when's Jonathan going to start designing meaningfully differentiated skills in PoE2?
>>567653830>more things to build around.idk bro I think maybe you want similar stuff that uses different damage types or is different in some other mostly-cosmetic way. last patch we had druid which had at least 4 completely different playstyles which were all endgame viable and could theoretically be merged or hybridized.
>>567654051why bother when you have an army of streamers to suck you off no matter what you do
>>567654197HARD post
>>567654051okay bro, I'm just going to type "retard" have a nice night
>>567653830i also use sunder just for the damage buff because you can make it nearly instant
>>567653905>it doesn't necessarily matter very much if the underlying math that creates the total damage # is different right?The math can change dramatically with just 1 line changed on the skill (e.g. the damage type it is or isn't converted into).>30 skills that are all meaningfully differentiated is 30 skillsNo, it's like ~10 skills when you weed out the trash, the unnecessary auxiliary skills like cull the weak, and stuff you don't like personally.>200 skills that are not meaningfully differentiated can be reduced to fewer than 30 different gameplay styles This is a false dichotomy.>>567654148I want more of everything, more of the same, and more of completely different things.I understand things take devhours to make, so I think a bit of recycling would lead to a positive effect with minimal effort.>last patch we had druid which had at least 4 completely different playstyles which were all endgame viable and could theoretically be merged or hybridized.I'm pretty happy with the druid. My point stands. I'd still like more skills for all classes, including druid. The spell druid archetype is really modest for example.>>567654306You're pressing extra buttons for no reason because you can't use proper support combinations. You are as retarded as I expected.
