Just like make animu edition!>Demo Days NEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>568303230
What made Voices of the Void succeed despite it's developer's abrasive behavior? Is it because it's free?
>>568445782Probably this
>>568445893>Boss you shot a child!AMAZING, MISSION COMPLETETHAT RIGHT THERE IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST, BOSS.
>>568445782Lgbt people and overly online women hate Notch but they still play his game.The same women that would insult you and try to get you removed from your job for a trans joke still monetarily support jk rowling.Its all a joke, none of the e-shit matters, as long as your product is good.The idea that it does matter, is a psyop so that companies pay for image managers.
godo cloth sim progressnow cloth can maintain lateral connection between bone chains, so that leg (collider) doesn't clip through the cloth.
just make nihilismslop
>>568445562Does she drink her bloodfee to grow her flat chest each morning?Just wondering, i thought it'd be a funny thing haha
>>568448094>flat
>>568447686wheres the penis sim
>>568447686Where's his fat swinging cock
>>568448152>0 reading comprehension
>>568447120>a guy living off the scraps of society that makes the place look worseversus>a place that makes computer part prices multiply exponentially, uses all the water, makes a ton of noise, causes a ton of light pollution, doesn't bring any jobs, multiplies your electricity bill and the electricity for all sorts of honest and essential businesses, paid for using taxpayer money, and makes the place look worsegee I don't know, jim. which is worse?
Make Roblox games
>>568449108Nope, we must retvrn.
I give up. I’m exhausted. --------------------------------- I lost my entire project. It was saved in the cloud, and then my account got deleted. Honestly, I don’t even know what to do anymore.
>>568438687Appreciate the advice anon. I'll do this.
>>568449347Rebuild from scratch but better.
>>568448837Not living off the grid, growing your own food. Retard.
>>568449347>not using github when its literally free
>>568450098>less than 90% uptimeanother thing ruined by jeets
>>568447686This is cool but you may want to first fix the gun clipping thru her rib and boob (around 9 or 10 seconds in webm) because it's very noticable.Also, based on my own observations your game will get significantly more engagement if you make the female character White/pale skinned with red hair. Not just on Aggy, either. I can't definitively say why, but try a simple texture swap to make your character a red head with blue or green eyes and a conservative amount of freckles, then compare the engagement you get to before.
>>568450457
>>568449347use git lfs next time.
>>568450703This is misleading because it tries to separate them when the truth is any one of those going down disrupts your workflow. Use the real status page instead.
>>568451120>that website considers latency in a specific part of the world as an outageretarded.
>>568450658what about prominent clavicles and prominent front teeth?
>>568451457I accept your concession.
Retard.
K.
>>568451825Relax.
>>568451723Prominent clavicles are based, great post. Buckteeth are successful in Aggy but I don't know how well they perform out in the wild like X, tiktok etc
>>568425258>telling a gamer he can't tell what's qualityLol, lmao even>>568430134Neet here, it's hard to stay focused.
i asked chatgpt to analyze my approach to game development and find personality overlaps with street fighter and berserk characters and it picked all the villainsbro
>>568452626>Neet here, it's hard to stay focused.my trick is to spend a few hours of my day fully enjoying being lazy and undisciplined playing video games and scrolling social media, then i remind myself i'd lose this opportunity and have to work full time again if my game flops, and then i find the motivation to work hardyou can't spend every waking hour making meaningful productivity, gazing into the horrors of failure will give you all the motivation you need to be locked in for as many hours as you need to reach the point of cognitive decline and be fully content that your day was well spentthe discipline isn't actually applied when i'm working, it's applied when i shift from being a degenerate to focusing on what will happen when i fail, it's hard to summon the strength to think about the direct consqeuence of failure
>>568416079And you mean your natural end r-right?I've been at this for almost 10 years v_v no success.
>>568452982i find chatgpt too much of a cocksucker for these type of questionsits never honest, its just flattering always
>>568453498>FamilyKartvghsuch kino kobini storepure tamashii
>>568449347Physical backup chads the list of reasons to use physical backups continues to get vindicated. Sorry for your loss, don't you have at least the latest version of your game on the PC at least?
>>568453498this is unironically caused by 996 culture, creative pursuits like game development benefit most from strategic analysis of what makes a game good, not rote toil of various technical tasksif you want to make a good game you will eventually need to summon the mental strength required to think deeply about what makes your game enjoyable>>568453569just ask it to be as mean as possible
>>568453829>just ask it to be as mean as possibleI tried that but then it does the opposite, its just mean for the hell of it. you cant get it to be more realistic
>>568453354>my trick is to spend a few hours of my day fully enjoying being lazy and undisciplined playing video games and scrolling social mediaHuh. I end up doing nothing so to speak. This might actually work.Currently it's like>try to play games>feel guilty>try to gamedev>feel lazy>>568453498Fuck I'm in my early 30s and like 7 years in with no success
>>568453829>996 cultureWhat is this?
>>568453569Tell it straight away after opening it to be concise and have zero personality. It's my preferred form of talking to what SHOULD be raw data collection.
>>568449347
>>568453921ah, that sucks, maybe try grok? i called it an idiot once and was surprised at how aggressive it responded, but this isn't the exact same as your requirement>>568454025>Currently it's like>>try to play games>>feel guilty>>try to gamedev>>feel lazythis is exactly what happens if i don't torture myself with thoughts of working 12 hour minimum wage shifts and the demon hell torture factory with a 2 hour stinky sweaty crowded ass public commute just to get home to a dirty empty apartment that i can barely afford with a fridge full of expired food that i'm too lazy to clean because when i had the opportunity to do something with my life i wasted it all playing video games and gooning like a retard instead of mustering the tiniest amount of discipline required to do 30 minutes of business strategizingpain and misery so bad not gonna let that happen nope>>568454292chinese tech work culture, work 9 am to 9 pm 6 days a weekit might be good if your job doesn't required creativity but i suggest most solo devs avoid this, your game will be a polished turd if you follow this routine
>>568447120Dude saladtoss has the worst fucking takes lately. He became a >FUCK YOU I GOT MINEboomer. He'll make one comic pointing out that AI is taking jobs and ruining artistic pursuits then the next he'll mock people upset about it.
>>568454485
>>568447686>>568448249>>568448537
>>568454485Crab in a bucket moment.
why are there so many indians on agdg
>>568454770
>>568454770id, why are you here?
>>568454895how do i do that? i tried but my boob doesnt move
>>568445990>it's really happeningAggybros, how did Betz win?
>>568454654It's not a request, anon. It's a DEMAND. Give him a big fat uncut cock for that skirt. But also make it so it's only viewable if you deliberately manipulate the camera to get an underskirt view.
proper gamedev technique?
>>568452982>>568453569this, ask grok instead
>>568455024just as marnix, he's using negative intentions to do something, it's not ideal but it's way better than to be a deranged schizo obsessed with luddites
>>568452982Skull Knight for me apparently because I'm too acutely aware of causality, perhaps I'm also fated to be chained to it
>>568455439last one is penis?
>>568455279not that dev, I would like to see that too thobeit
>>568453569oh yeah explain this?my AI is trying to work me to death
>>568449347>It was saved in the cloud
>>568456695>titsThis isn't a femboy it's a futa
>>568449347Yes, I follow Toonsoulsdev too.
>anon, are you really a gamedev?>show us your gamethis happened in real life not long ago. it was... underwhelming to say the least
Guys anyone willing?
did we really need a life story rundown?
>>568454895I can only do this with my butt
>>568458123Meanwhile my sister kept showing her friends my game (that I thought was trash) and they all found it super cute and most even beat it.
>>568458218Based sister Along with Awoken devs based mom..Wtf I love women now?
>>568458380nta but I will never get guys who hate on women, my whole life I got bullied by guys but girls always treated me very well, most of my HS friends were girls, nowadays its more even I think
>>568458532That's because you match their testosterone levels, faggot.
>>568458713i dun get it
>>568458532You answered it yourself, they have bad experiences with women so get bitter. It's the same with the xitter femcels, they all had shitty dads or boyfriends.
I like to wake up every morning full of rage by watching Graphtreon. For example pic related just came out today, he makes 3000 a month now. His >GameIs clicking Ai Imagesthat's it.People pay him to click Ai images really fast
>buy one these>load claude into it>ask it to make game>???>profit
>>568458713>That's because you match their testosterone levels, faggot.
>>568458926Yes, and? Literally most people that make a lot of money online are people who managed to find idiots to send money their way. You do not need to be smart, you do not need to be intelligent, you do not need to be skilled, all you need is being confident in bullshitting and not feeling bad about people getting scammed by you.
>>568459131But why?what makes someone pull out their credit card to fund clicking ai images?why not.... play a good game?
>>568458218i gave my niece and nephew copies of my games, they liked them :D
>>568459289show us your good game
>>568458532>I never get why people don't like something>I like it, because of my experiences with itGenuinely retarded post, surely you CAN understand if your own experiences result in your own opinions of things, it must be clear to you that other people have different experiences? I don't hate women either, I married one, but I can understand that some of these losers were bullied by women or had some other negative experience to shape them.
>>568459289If you're game isn't more appealing than this you can't complin
>>568449347>putting ANYTHING on someone's serverWhen will you retards learn?HDDs are cheap as fuck
>>568459289eventually there will come a point in your life were you'll finally figure out that most people live life mostly through instincts and reflexes.these kinds of people are absolutely hopeless in front of porn (which is what the guy you posted makes). you need to treat them like you do animals: dogs, cats, birds, etc. you can't comprehend them through a rational lens.
>>568459975>responding to baitWhen will you retards learn?(You)s are cheap as fuck
>>568460232>responding to baitRetard
>>568460232>>568460279>samefaggingPunjab
>>568460626gora
>>568458123You showed your game to group entirely of women? Did it feel like the energy died down after they saw your game?>wow that's so cool!>editors note: this is not a good "wow">>568458532Ironically by males I got treated like I was ugly yet somehow I never connected the dots on girls showing interest in me. In retrospect I was in fact cute, eventually mid, and now plain ugly. I still get interest but I think it's more so women being desperate for any man, even an ugly one.>>568458926Ive seen one that made me mad. Iirc it was a woman that did uninteresting youtube videos maybe some of those react type vids too and was getting maybe 10k for it. I would not be able to get 10k for making a roguelike on there.
fuck I can't stop making this Army Men clone, the need to make this is too strong ahI know this shit is pointless but I do it anyways ah
>>568458123>imagine the smell
>>568460708>plain uglyjust lose weight and get a haircut bub
>>568459617>expecting agdg to compete with this level of art skillKek. Just look at it. Even the UI is great quality. >>568460708>Ironically by males I got treated like I was uglyAnd by that I also mean I was treated poorly cause of my looks>>568460874I imagine this is you, pic related>AIEEEEEE
>>568460232Well. Hopefully newfags willl be warned, at least.
>>568461363macOS system audio support is the highest-risk technical seam and must be prototyped firs
>>568460874Good. Nothing like abusing a motivational high while you can, especially when you're learning new methods of development.
>>568458713lmfao exactly. Dudes a queer
>>568462589He is a queer for *checks notes* being around women and liking them, unlike the incel who hates them hmmm
*action*
>>568462765so trve sis
>>56845349835 years old and 13 years of gamedev with nothing to show for it.... EXCEPT for a tool that me and my co-workers and employers use exclusively at my office. So I guess that's something.And it's a tool I made in Gamemaker lmao
>>568462972did you try?
>>568463113I saw a nightmare that I actually made a successful game and ended up in a game convention for it and ended up getting molested by Tim Cain. Now I'm scared of actually making it
>>568463284troon out and he won't molest you
>>568463061I learned a lot along the way, problem was that it was all mechanical and I always hit a wall when I get to the content/gameplay/enemy/puzzle phase.On the bright side, I'm returning to pre-coded mechanics I made years ago that were so well-written and documented that I'm continuing efforts without issue. I'm honestly shocked.I intend to have my first working enemy tonight!
>>568463113I had a nightmare that Betz groomed me on his discord because my game was getting popular. Now I'm actually scared of making it good.
>>568463113is that the pedophile guy?
I think he's just slightly annoyed people keep telling him to go indie. Which he doesn't want to do because his whole career has been working on larger scaled games, at least post fallout 1. So he sees no real reason to do that, and this video seems like a reminder that most indie games are low effort slop. And he's right. Now if you want to turn that judgmental eye on him, that's fair. I've personally not been a fan of his games. But I'm also not a DnD player and prefer action RPG's. I think his team in the past really struggled with UI and focus as well.
>>568464008meant for >>568463692
>>568446093No children will be shot luckily. Ideally id like to have closeups of mangled twinks though.
>>568454770gaming is a space uniquely suited to apex scammers. you can fake nearly everything right up to the point of a person playing your game and finding out it's shit. indians all dream of making commercials and tiktok sizzle reels for some clash of clans clone and randomly going viral, and it really really shows through in this general's obvious tastes. ai tools make it really, really fucking easy to generate a bunch of noise around some shovelware slop and snooker some other, probably slightly more indian, retards into paying to play.
>>568464964weirdo
>>568458532That's never a good sign, also if you're Gogem that explains so much
>spammers>avatarfags>nodevswhat a terrible website
>>568462909Me when a Black Woman farts
>>568465535post game
>>568463284Kek'd irl
>>568465535yea this is basically what you get when you have a bunch of anonymouse rejects. people aren't here because they're well adjusted and happy, they're here because they can't function in spaces with reputation, and they can't function in those spaces because they default to [anonymouse degeneracy]. whatever, call it a hugbox, call it whatever you need to, but 4chan should never have entertained these retarded micro-communities. this shit just wastes server space and electricity. with no accountability or identity, we're ffree to be shit slinging retards. look at the animal who responded to to you and wants "post game" without posting any work. it's because you emotionally scarred him and he needs a foothold to claw back some ego. this place is unironically worse than the /ic/ threads. anyone who regularly posts here, and i mean more than once a week, is literally never going to make or finish a game. they are built for masturbating and arguing, not something that takes a year of concentrated skill and effort. proof? these threads
>>568466260>duuuurr anonymous forum will always be badActually this is a new development from recent years, /agdg/ used to be good before whatever this most recent /d/iscord is found it.
AGDG was and still is good enough. What needs to get better is my game.
>>568466358>used to be goodno, no it didn't and all parts of all anonymous websites are absolute wastes for any form of meaningful communication. yes, this means reddit and yes, it means spoofable websites like facebook. if you don't sign your address to it, you arejust another anonymous shit flinging bot account.
>palantir shills in agdg
just can't do it. I pushed few pixels around and I just cannot do it. Everytime I push a pixel around I question myself why I am doing this? Why? Whats the purpose?
>>568466758If they paid me I'd shill whatever it is they do.
>>568466260funny how couple of times I have posted my games here I’m just called a shill and an astroturflike who the fuck wants to be associated this place?ofc me because I’m retard but man usually you other retards suck
>>568465535You can't really post your game here without getting reviewbombed If I don't have my anonymity then I have to grovel and act all nice like I do whenever I have to talk to """fans""" on twitter or whatever so I don't hurt anyones feelings or get some schizo on my back spamming at me all dayHere at least I can vent a little and pull down my mask.
>>568466803it’s better to turn of your brain and just (unironically) do ityou can be smarter later after you gain some knowledge
>>568466803There's no harm in giving up.
Can these threads ever go back to being normal or are they doomed to just be about AI nonsense and e-celeb crap?
>>568467297I'm 32, I guess I just don't like making games, time to admit the truth. There are people who like pushing 300 hours of world building, I'm just not one of those people
>>568467006agdg nowadays fucking sucks and I have no idea what happened or whyI miss the old agdg where I might actually post progress and not just receive endless repetitive and irrelevant shitposting in response, the agdg that I might actually reference in my game and not feel guilty about
>>568458532ntawomen have always been nice to me, but i would always see their wrath second hand. made me terrified of them flipping their switch onto me.men are more like retarded animals, they're either chill and i never had to worry or theyre sadistic for no reason. granted, my sampple size is middle school, high school, and a bit of college.i wonder if i could change my demeanor one day, i only seem to be able to handle banter with old friends or with anons on the internet. everyone else i treat the way i would treat a zoo lion, ccautious and on the side of err. probably why im a gamedev.
>>568467402>posts e-celeb shit>crys about e-celeb shit
>>568467402
>>568467006theres unironically a lot of crabs here kek, they will not want to support your game if you gamemog their abandoned project (which you will).but theres some people that will cheer u on so
>>568466803there really is no point dude. this hobby is retarded. if someone has a burning vision in their head that won't leave and they are totally fine knuckling under for literally 15 years like the Kenshi guy, and that person is happy ending up with a Kenshi-tier game, yes, the hobby is worth pursuing. but the average person in this thread seems like they want to bang the thing out in less than 3 months and then go mega viral off of some crappy piece of shovelware. that is pretty much the space for "hobbyists," and i know everyone is going to try and make an argument for why THEY are the "purists," but nobody will show you their game, lmao. indie gaming is just a bunch of 3rd world strivers hoping the free tier of chat gpt can collate some free itch assets into a game that something someting then they can escape little mumbai (india) for big mumbai (canada).
>non-ADHD loserdevs can't fathom what it is like to be an ADHD loserdev who has the skills and the intelligence to make games but ADHD is getting in the way of that process at every turnhonestly I'm not sure who has it worse
>>568467727I'm trying to escape my shithole town, well, I spent like max 2 weeks on this shit and I'm glad it's only 2 weeks. Abandon project. And never touch gamedev again.
adhd isn't real, you are just a slob mentally and physically>muh chemistry!yea go get another vaccine, lmao
>>568467876ADHD is a nightmare, it is like I'm a genius but can only keep my foot on the pedal for sub 1 hour at a time, before needing a day of cooldown. I feel like downies got it better, at least they aren't aware of what they could have been.
>>568467097you'll get a schizo just from posting something that looks too good for this place
/vg/ as a whole was the biggest mistake this retarded website ever made.Thread permanence with anonymity just doesn't work. Every single thread has at least one overly-dedicated shitposter.
>>568467876i have adhd and ur a crybaby wah wah>>568468028it's real but not the way psychohacks describe it, and certainly medicating urself for it isn't the answer
Thoughts on my new character?
>>568467994don't feel bad. shit is what it is. in real gamedev, you do a few things and you do them well. in these spaces you just do everything poorly and either you do it all in months and hope people forgive your ai assets and non-op game and something something now you're rich, or you accept that you're going to be doing pixel art for a decade before something happens. people itt bounce off of this constanlty and you can see the copium seep through in every thread.
>>568464964What if instead of mangled twinks it was femboys being raped
>literally so retarded that less 1/24 hours of brain usage could feasibly qualify for "operative intelligence">hurr other people are soo dumm1!yep there's that copium
>>568467483it's due to all the nodevs who failed, most of them never having even tried to make a game they quit before they started and they couldn't deal with their own failure which led to them becoming deranged posters who can't let this thread gothey don't make games, they have no gamedev experience and have nothing relevant to add to any gamedev discussion which is why they shitpost and derail the thread at every opportunityas time went on they became a larger and larger portion of the posters here t. oldfag
I don't think I have ADHD but I've noticed that I have to be tipsy in order to get anything done at all, so gamedev essentially forces me to be an alcoholic so I can make progressmaybe ZUN is the same and that's why he's always drinking
>>568468191I mean the real kicker is that mods have to actually do their jobs, but they won't.
where's the fucking proggy poster, he will breathe some fresh air into this thread
>>568468737post game, you won't
saar ai is the needful
>>568468704yeah, I can see that happening igI'm still going to put a small graffiti agdg logo in my game just for old times' sake but still, shit really sucks
>>568467483>and I have no idea what happened or whyA mix of the actual devs leaving for, at minimum, the /v/ thread, and a bunch of persistent spammers and insane retards like crumble and cris never being dealt with.In general that's most of /vg/ though. Anyone who wants to talk about the subject a thread's centered around has left it for some other microcommunity.
>"i ahve adhd">*looks inside*>played some gachashit for 94 hours in one week>"but bro i can't concentrate because im smrt"
>>568469067bait
>>568468303youre right, but thats why games need to be scoped such that you only need to do the few things you do right.art + gameplay + polish. Remove 3d if you hate 3d modelling and cant commission. commission music, sounds, etc, a lot of assets on the internet.there's still gold to be mined in this industry
>>568468136sometimes I wish I were a sub100 iq wageslave like imagine feeling content doing some shitty wageslave job and being happy for the shit pay so you get to spend a couple hours a week doing what you actually wanna do >I feel like downies got it better, at least they aren't aware of what they could have been.if internet is to be believed they really do seem to have all the fun and none of the worries
gacha dailies are peak adhd, they're a bunch of small 5 second chores you do as second monitor contentthe best way to force somebody to quit a gacha is to make them have to exclusively focus on itat the very least you'll notice people start stimming because shaking your leg or rocking back and forth is more engaging that whatever the fuck's happening in the gacha
>>568467483are you really confused as to why a well adjusted, serious, or talented person wouldn't stay here? look the fuck around, and realize that talent is at an insnaely high premium. if you're puttering around here, reddit, discord communities instead of running your dev like a business, you failed and you're just doing the bookeeping until you accept it and one day will be the last day you ever touch that retarded pile of crap that claude shit out for you. now if you were of actual merit, you would probably be on display, gathering your own community around your game. guess what doesn't happen here, or frankly in most "gaym dev" communities.
I'm probably the only person here that is working on my game.
>>568468914There are basically two major events that killed the thread. The first is the death of the recap, which basically encouraged social interaction and showing off progress with gamification elements. The second was cumball having a crashout about underspace and spamming webms for months, which drove off a lot of those regular posters and kind of invited a whole bunch of other bullshit that we never recovered from. Those two were the absolute turning points.
>>568469356i have my phd in computer science, i spend a lot of time around smart people, verifiably smart people. they are categorically not riddled with retarded made up brain diseases that "forces" someone to play genshin impact and masturbate for an entire 80-hour workweek. they actually get shit done with their lives. there is no cope more rancid than the do-nothing who insists there is actually an intellectual giant just "hiding" inside them. literal magical, delusional thinking.
>>568469067I only play vidya like a couple hours a week on average>gachashitliterally never spent even a penny on that trash and I never play them either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4ewsbwsTsI love this shit reminds me of early 2000s
I wish I was better at art and modeling
>>568469405Honestly, it’s pretty obvious why someone with real talent or ambition wouldn’t bother sticking around here, especially when the scene is filled with endless noise, cliques, and people more interested in circlejerking than actually building something meaningful. If you’re wasting your time on Reddit, Discord, or these echo chambers instead of treating game development like a legit business, then you’re just spinning your wheels, waiting for some miracle that isn’t coming. The fact is, true merit gets noticed outside this mess, in the real world, where people actually see your work and want to support it. Instead, most of these communities are just echo chambers where nobody really pushes forward, just regurgitating the same tired memes and crying about “crunch” while doing nothing but cluttering the space with their mediocrity. If you genuinely had talent, you’d be showcasing your game, building your own community, and making moves that matter, but most here are just stuck in a cycle of self-delusion, waiting for validation that’ll never come.
>>568469579For me, it's still the ultimate blackpilling moment - The Great Floppening of Marmoreal. It was the moment I became a crab.
>>568469820Same...
cris doesn't complain about ADHD or any other mental retardationcris doesn't post about e-celebs, slops or flopscris only posts about his own game dev, workflows, technologies he discovered and lore for his gamesI wish more posters were like cris
>>568469283just let it go.. its okay to give up
>>568468959>come to america on an h-1b to "fill a labor shortage" that never really exist>get replaced by ai because it works even cheaper than you>have to go backsounds like the system is working as intended
>>568468732How much alcohol do you need exactly to stay sober for a work day? As long as it's not more than a couple of beers, you can probably tank it until you release your game, assuming you're still young.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ULidHWwitQjust look at this shit, its fantastic
>>568470096ballmer was doing cocaine
>>568469705you assume and project a lot but don't know a thing about ADHD
>>568469841Why cant this just be a place for somebody to have a hobby? i know im not talented enough to make this anything more, but i dont see the point in crabbing others.
>>568470316my game intro would be totally made by some kid using adobe flash
>>568470096Not much, luckily. I'm a skeletal manlet so I don't need much to attain and maintain it, but tolerance is eventually going to build up.
>>568469367I fucking hate any daily or weekly shit nothing makes me quit a game faster than that sort of trash
Finally. I can drink a beer and play some cards with the bros (my card playing AI) tonight. Who else up rn, not doing they day job, devvin they game?
>>568470745I made this game
>>568470792Richard Garfield made this game you knave. I just added racing stripes.
>>568470014It's funny how cris has the autism to keep going but he's too fucking incapable to make anything good. His existence must be a special kind of hell.
>>568465185>also if you're Gogem that explains so muchwhy does gogem live rent free in jeet heads?
>>568470926proof you arent gogem?
>>568470037im too retarded to quit... this is my fate....i will not be discouraged by the you crabs that gave up or have failed, but maybe that one ivysly post because i am susceptible to an appeal to authority idk. scientifically good advice given to a majority
my wife is indian which is why I'm obsessed with them
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2853830/Folder_Dungeon/Wasn't there a guy here making a similar game? This seems to have 15k wishlists.
Remake Command and Conquer but they are like ants or something. Or reframe it like that old show Kids Next Door and make it like some kind of kitbash kid army against pedo adults.
>>568470926>jeetI don't know why don't you tell me?
>>568471401RTS is thoroughly dead, unfortunately.
>>568470994>because i am susceptible to an appeal to authorityfind an authority that tells you you're gonna make it
>>568471216might as well kill yourself if you have a poop demon as a wife
>>568471506This. Even high budget attempts at RTS flop.
>>568471506It's dead because nobody has made one. The slop tides are high and there's a premium on well-made ship in a bottle games. We're at the point where people are sick of stupid ass incremental or gambleslop games. Yes they are popular NOW, but do you have a Balatro clone in your pocket? Then make a market prediction and move on it. People are complaining about slop, crying for "old games," ergo, remake Sly Cooper or something .
Have you guys found the hidden games within UFO 50?What do you think it meant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14UxHL5Yw_4Wasn't this a game from a dev here? Like that one top down space game that wasn't Salvo.
people keep making streamer bait, but im going after the video essayists. just do one tacky subversion of the genre or play with the medium itself and you got yourself at least a 5k profit floor
>>568471753Tempest Rising did all the things people asked for including cinematic. It didn't flop but there probably won't be a sequel.Nobody trusts what RTS players say. Imagine trying to compete with Starcraft 2 which is free and Age of Empires 2 DE which is 10 bucks on sale.
>>568471753>It's dead because nobody has made one.That's just not true. They're still being made they just sit in their little niche hole. Besides I'm not interested in making an RTS I only ever enjoyed C&C and Planetary Annihilation/Supreme Commander. RTS is perceived as a sweaty fast paced genre where actions per minute matter. People would just much rather play turn based stuff.
>>568472150If someone video essay's my game I would copyright strike them for drama and free press
reminder to never click a youtube link. behead all stealth marketers and review bomb the game.
>>568471506>>568471753>>568472212People are crying for old rts but it doesn't mean you should copy them literally, identify what makes them compelling, focus on that and then redesign everything preventing people from playing them right now.
>>568472150making your game for content creators is top tier cuckoldry. you're essentially making props for a youtube video, and are gloating about getting scraps whilst the youtubist/streamist gets all your money
Aggydaggy national anthem https://youtu.be/x9WO2ieJMYk
>>568472854My point is you shouldn't make any RTS at all. It's a shit dead genre just like platformers. It was only popular in the 90s and early 2000s due to lack of alternatives.
>>568472086Different game, his was like a roguelike with deckbuilder elements.
I've been working towards getting a play test out to some friends next week, so I've been cleaning up some stuff and incorporating it into the portrait system.
>>568472968>It's a shit dead genre just like platformers.
>>568472854Planetary Annihilation is like the perfect RTS in my eyes in terms of gameplay and people just don't care. RTS simply has a bad stigma. I don't care that much, though I'm an FPS chad.
RTS as it was won't make a comeback, it's too hard and gamers nowadays fear the 1v1if I were to make one I would dumbify it, streamline the gameplay
>>568473093>metroidvaniaNot the same as linear platformer. There's more to the game than just jumping on guys and clearing stages.There is no equivalent of what Metroidvania is for RTS and if there was one all the old fart RTS grognards would shit on it and the normies would see that and not buy it either.The biggest problem with RTS is it doesn't appeal to normie gamers (Imagine Dorito pope announcing an RTS as the highlight of the game awards like he did for Highguard lmao) and the people who it does appeal to drag it down just like milsim fags drag down milsims and movement shooter fags drag down movement shooters.
Can whoever is harassing me on instagram please stop. My guess is fagoon but in case its an agdg person, please stop.
>>568472432The RTS games being made are just lesser versions of StarCraft and Age of Empires. They don't even try to be great.>>568472854Exactly. You keep the concept. Control units, simulate war. Leave the rest. Every RTS I see is a giant pile of shit compares to Starcraft or Age of Empires. Including the new Age of Empires. They had cool cutscenes, but gameplay wise it was stupid.
>>568473147For me personally mechs and scifi are not my thing so that will disqualify it immediately. I think people wanted to like Stormgate but it was terrible in every sense. The most mechanically complete RTS in my mind is BAR, I'm an avid Total War Warhammer 3 enjoyer and it's almost entirely for aesthetic reasons. Even if you don't have a hueg mega IP or legacy to rely on you can still make something RTS like, Age of Darkness was a pretty good game and Cataclismo as well.
I love playing old RTS games and hate playing new ones. I liked the janky pathfinding. I liked playing campaign mode only. I liked making custom scenarios in the map editor.When I heard there was a Warcraft 2 clone coming out (The scouring I think it's called) I was sorely disappointed to find that it's a Warcraft 3 looking 3d competitive multiplayer slop.I just want units that lock onto tiles, and campaign missions with novelty items like a hero I have to babysit. I don't want to play online. I don't want to watch fags play a videogame in a stadium. I just want to build my base and watch the little people explode when they die.
>>568473248So don't have 1v1? That's one problem solved. 1v1 in many ways ruined the genre because it ruined what the genre was meant to be. Badass war sims became 1 drone vs 1 drone at 30 seconds into the game. It's retarded.
>RTShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jj71XcYYo
>>568473842This sounds like that and it flopped so hard dude made it free (most of the reviews are after it was free)https://store.steampowered.com/app/946660/Loria/
>>568473842You would probably like Loria then, and then there's Wyrmsun which uses the Stratagus Engine, a Warcraft 2/Starcraft clone engine
A new dawn of war is coming out soon and it's rumored to be like 1 (or winter assault) instead of the abortion that was 3
>>568474232It's made by the Iron Harvest guys, once they worked through the bugs it was a well functioning game, we'll see how it fairs against Total War 40k
>>568473649So you expect the schizo who's unhinged enough to harass people on instagram (instead of working on his game) to just suddenly stop after reading your vague post on /agdg/? You sure you not making this shit up?
>>568473896People keep claiming RTS is dead because it's stale/unchanging but there's loads of genres like that, which are all really popular genre staples. It's deeper than just not being innovative enough. There's simply not enough people who find it interesting. You could have a ground breaking new innovative RTS come out and there would be crickets. I think the only thing that could even attempt to intice people to be interested in RTS even somewhat again is a new Starcraft.
>>568474082Nice, I'll check it out when I'm released from the wage cage.From looking at the steam page, this game looks 3d with a fixed camera and not tile locked.I think a lot of the gameplay quirks and charm of older RTS games comes from the deterministic, tile locked movement. In 3d, things are too fluid. There are other more obscure quirks that people never try to copy, for example, Starcraft cloners will try to introduce mutalisk style stacking for air units but omit the octagonal unit attack ranges in exchange for simple circles, which takes away the ability for the player to edge a small advantage if they attack from the right angles.
>>>/wsg/6157318>>>/wsg/6157321>>>/wsg/6158734kanna...
>>568473896more like>gamedev cuts
>>568474582You say that but there's people trying to revive fucking King's Field of all games when Skyrim has been released 19 times. And HOMM Olden Era sparked new interest in the 4X genre that was getting increasingly complicated, even though Olden Era is made for competitive sweats
If you wanted a cool niche you could make an RTS with a coop campaign, there's a lot of demand for it. Most people asking for MP in an RTS just want to stomp CPUs in a lobby with their friends. That's basically how my friends and I spent years playing WC3. Every single WC3 campaign has a custom campaign version that turns it into coop and they're extremely popular.
>>568474913None of what you listed is RTS. Turn based stuff has always had a decent sized audience.
>>568475010>It's fun with friendsThis is the ultimate sign of a boring game
>deckbuilding RTS
>>568475229It's also a sign of the GOTY Baldur's Gate 3.
>>568474763
>>568475272That's AoE3 and everyone hated it.
>>568475190I was making an example, ok fine RTS wise Total War Warhammer 2 alone is the reason why there are so many AA RTS in development right now, it exploded so far beyond the Total War enthusiast crowd that it started to alienate its own core audience with the things people actually resonated with. They liked to build characters, use guns, big monsters and play on a fuckhuge map with no story driven shit.
>>568474582There's literally been no game to improve upon AOE2 or StarcraftII. Even Starcraft III probably wouldn't be super popular because what's even the point of it. It's just going to be a lame campaign. Lame pvp. Annoying rushing. Nobody wants to spend a year learning to defend rushes so that they can then play the game.
>>568475570AoE3 was one of the worst designed RTS games of all time. Mobile-tier system where having an upgraded hometown gave you an unfair advantage.
>>568475889>There's literally been no game to improve upon AOE2 or StarcraftIISupCom2 and Planetary Annihilation are vastly different than those two games. Really good games too. There's tons of RTS games out there you've never heard of or played.
Only Warcraft IIII could save RTS and that ship has sailed.
>>568475962we won btw
>>568475272Battleforge did this in 2009, it was a microtransaction driven RTS made by EA where you constructed decks of different colors like you would collect cards in Magic the Gathering
>>568475703The total war enthusiasts have been begging for innovation for like 20 years. And ya, Warhammer proves that if you do it, people play. Meanwhile Total War for the historical crowd get Total War Egypt lmfao. They are dipshits.
did medieval warfare have good gameplay? seems kind of p2w
>>568468191IDs would allow for self-moderation, but it would also show how dead this website is, which is bad for advertiser/ data salesman money.
>>568476021Looked it up. Looks like it made 20 million. Not bad.
>>568476368If I had 20m I could buy lots of steak
>>568475570>>568475272To be fair, AoE3 was a regular RTS with deck building on top which made an already complex game even more complex.An RTS that was actually built with deck building as one of it's core mechanics could be interesting.
>>568475570they hated it so much they bought it two million times
>>568476123tbf Pharaoh wasn't one of the historical titles it's in the same 'Heroic' line as Troy or Three Kingdoms, I quite like the game engine and wish they would have ported Warhammer 3 over to that but their production pipeline is a mess and some newer games have engines built on versions 15 years older than some of the experimental titles
>>568475889Nobody is making sequels to AOE2 or Starcraft because AOE2 and Starcraft still exist and the playerbase for those games refuse to play anything but those games and get angry if a single point on a map gets moved three pixels.
>>568476368Where are you getting 20 million from? Steam estimate is about 6 million and 2 something million from their kickstarter. It's not nothing but they also released it at a good time.
>>568476492You also have to apply Player inflation numbers, like some people will suggest Street Fighter 6 is the most popular Street Fighter game ever made because it sold 1 or 2 million more copies than a home console version of Street Fighter II. But to have the same cultural relevance Street Fighter 6 would have had to sell 300m more copies
>>568475889Based trvke. Starcraft 3 will also be a game delivered as a "service" so sweats will constantly need to work around new seasonal balance changes and metas as the DLCs break up the community into smaller and smaller pieces. AoE2 has had 18 civs added since release prior to DE over the course of 20 years + 6 weeks.DE has been out for less than seven years and has introduced 19. They're adding civs with castles made of mud or sticks now, as if they were peers to the most powerful of the time period.
>AI can't make ga-ACK
>>568476886NTA but Supcom2 made $15m and PA made $38m
>>568476479isn't Clash Royale kind of like that? deck building/tower defense/RTS all mixed up
>>568477070I played this game for 14 hours and only then I realized AI was used to make it. Downvoted. I played for 31 hours total, btw.
>>568477108Where are you getting these numbers from? The absolute highest estimate I see for PA is 16 million total.
>>568477152Kek you're right. I guess the idea did have a lot of merit.
>>568476886Just basing it on this, idk if this is accurate.
>>568477365Sensortower
>>568477176based principled luddite GOD
>>568476841I loved AoE2 and bought the latest one. It just wasn't any good. Very ugly and jank.
>>568477176>I played this game for 14 hours and only then I realized AIkek
luddite
>>568478029damn that's a loud lu
>>568477176lol what a fag.
>>568473896He's oversimplifying it (because by his own admission he doesn't really play a lot of RTS) but he's not far off, I assume he's referring to game like Dawn of War 2 and 3 or even Starcraft 2 that were hyperfocusing on babying the players around over evolving the mechanics. The push against base building for example is such a weird stance to have, any kid who pretend plays a war knows its 2 teams and our team is gonna fuck their base up. Stepping in and deciding for other people "well no actually it's about guys fighting other guys" is such a game designer ass move.
>>568478376
>>568478029Why does the asian guy have 3 glasses and 2 noses? That asian girl is pretty hot though
>>568476913It's utterly pointless, I'd have to sell 2,500,000,000 copies just to be as successful as Minecraft and Stardew Valley.I could sell 125,000,000,000 copies and not even come close to a fraction of their success.How could anyone ever create something that sold 6,250,000,000,000 copies?
>>568477176You should give a negative review to every game you play because all of them have ai-something in them somewhere
>>568478929Who said I don't?
>>568479045Based
I only play games made before 2019.That way my games remain pure and ai-free and yes I make sure to not use any mods for them unless the mod version was also made prior to 2019.
Im starting to have too many components in my config editor.. I might need to implement a trie class for searching components soon. Does anybody have a better alternative?
>>568478689>How could anyone ever create something that sold 6,250,000,000,000 copies?By being first and original.Also in 2015 Minecraft had 70m copies sold, it was about $10 in Alpha, $20 in 2012 and then $40 in 2015 so we can assume the average ppu was pretty close at least, let's say $30, $2.1b. Total worldwide gamers were around 2B at the time compared to todays 3.4B so 1.7x, apply that to revenue $2.1b -> $3.6b. Can you make a title that sells as much? MiHoYo have some titles that have made $4-6b each so yes, it's possible.
>>568479319gamelet
>>568478929Mine doesn't tho.
>>568480679proof?
I have no faith in my gameI know I can make it the way I want but I have no faith it will be financially successful even a little which will make my life even shittierthank you for reading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkSAAjFpSvQIsn't this game basically a copy of the one /agdg/ slots game? No one can tell me this shit isn't just a lucky draw
finally found some time to work on my boat game :3
After years of delays, 1 day left till release! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06IPrLcJkhMWill this usher a new boom of Zeldalikes or will it flop spectacularly?
>>568481538>No one can tell me this shit isn't just a lucky drawalmost everything in life is
>>568481782It will get around 500-2000 reviews, moderately successful, but not revolutionary.
They say RTS is dead but it's the only genre that can keep /agdg/ on topic for an hour. Someday, a new great RTS will emerge, and the world will say>This is fucking gay why isn't it always online? No battle pass? Where are the achievements?
>>568481782it's too hard
>>568481724are you this anon?
>>568481538https://store.steampowered.com/app/2239800/One_Armed_Bandit/this one? making a slot machine roguelike, it's no surprise they would go down similar paths. I'd say the devs were completely unaware of anon's game
>>568471753Just last year there was a bunch of hype for some RTS I forget the name of.
>>568481247
>>568482538Stormgate? It failed miserably
>>568481782>soulslikeaaand d r o p p e dthanks but no thanks
>>568478663>That asian girl is pretty hot thoughthat's because they make up like 90% of the training data
>>568482538DORF is the most hyped RTS right now
Hey game devs; The world needs more games where you go under deep dark abyssal oceans and hunt for profit while getting stalked/accosted by the terrors that doubtlessly inhabit it. Bonus points if you can give believable and kino context to why the terrors of the deep are there.
>>568482240Yes! Finally found some time between contracts to work on my game again,I have been working on shaders mostly and drew some inspiration from Ballerburg on how to approach weapon selection
>>568482810That's the one. This game has 5,5k reviews. Anyone here who thinks they can compete with this is retarded. >>568483120Maybe it'll do better. We'll see. It's a game that nobody here could make.
>>568481782>10hmmmm
wow
>>568483339your game is probably the only game I've seen on agdg that I think I'd like to play and I don't even know what it's about. and I'm not even a naval autist.what's your game about, how is it played? what does the player do?
one of my eyelids suddenly swelled up is it over
Damn Gaben got drip
chat, im cookin' up a smelly turd
progress
>>568484425Give her a shota bf(let the male MC fuck him too)
>>568484023Thanks anon! You can build ships and battle them against each other. You will have to sink the other before they sink your ship. There will be u-boats, aircraft carriers, battleships, destroyers, cruisers etc.
>>568484763This looks fun, but the flash graphics make it a brain snoozer
>>568484763Can you add titanic creatures like whales and squids to fight? Maybe a kraken? Or a fantastical beast?
>>568484763can you add somali pirates that you get to hose down
>>568468959in the time it took you to do the captcha to post this you could've worked on your arma mod dumb spammer
>>568484763that's great, I hope you keep posting progress
>>568485347
>>568485347he's not joshua
>>568485904I love /v/3, and post daily on their Discord for one, unlike Joshua who got himself banned.
>>568485347joshua stopped posting a while ago, It's the pedo poster who is now backhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/542800569/#542808910
>>568486037You are the stupid pedo falseflagger
>>568484942>flash graphics make it a brain snoozerI agree but I don't know how to do art>>568485068>Can you add titanic creaturesHell yeah I might add a scenario or two, it would be nice to blast a squid with Mark 9 depth charges>>568485662feel free to create somali pirates in the editor and release them as a workshop item on steam
>>568486258The pedo "falseflagger" has been shitposting by using AI slop lolis longer than you've been here. If anything you are the falseflagger.
>>568486274I think the pixelated style >>568482240 had more charm but I don't know if it's a good idea and working with pixel art can be a major pain in the ass
>>568486274cool make sure to add a water cannon, thats what they use to hose them lightbulb heads down with
>>568486274I'll be honest, Anon. This seems like a game a man makes purely because it's what he's into and nobody else is making. Which, while I'll applaud you in doing, is doomed to have few if not zero sales. Additionally, it doesn't look very difficult to actually sink a boat so there's not going to be a roaring scene for it. What does the pvp mode you're envisioning even look like?
>>568486037I miss him...
>>568487612Cute boy
>>568487293I find it being 2d more alluring than if it were 3dand seems like it's reasonably scopednot meme worthy or something streamers would play or their retarded audience would watch so you're probably right about the sales. it's a shame but who knows if rule the waves 3 has a decent sized audience this could as well
>>568486274I think you could do with just some texturing and post-processing effects
>>568487938now this looks GMI
>>568487938>>568488086from 50 reviews to 400
>>568487938no cheating with lightning and weather. make it look good in sunny weather and clear skies
>>568486274The ship builder is quite cool but I don't get how the gameplay is actually like. Is it like 1v1 with sort of (real time?) battleship gameplay where you're trying to sink the opponent before he sinks you? Like you're trying to find the spot that sinks the ship since you can't see inside the enemy ship?
>>568488246Why do you think they mostly showed the T-Rex in Jurassic Park at night in heavy rain? Or the Balrog from Lord of the Rings in complete darkness?
>>568487938Best part about this is that I think anon could get pretty close with procedural shader based textures on the ships.
>>568488325My efforts to summon you worked.Now where's your game? It's been a whole ass year.
>>568488670Cute boy
>he thinks a shitposter nodev has a gamelmao
>>568483441>more reviews than players
>>568488246
>>568488325are you the same anon that did picrel?
>>568489103that wasn't me btw
>>568487938yeah I have given AI screenshots of my game a couple of times and asked it to improve the graphics and it always looked Great! But I have no idea how to actually implement this.How on earth do I make the water look this good, especially the water surface is a major hassle to get right. I wish I wasn't such a retard when it comes to art>>568488651I am actually using procedual shaders for the hull with great results!
>>568483339Are you the Ships At War chad or that's a different game?
>>568489103>>568489324>>568488246This would be my suggestionAs for how to achieve it I guess some varying thickness and noise in the waves, a little bit of bloom. Water is just a gradient with shadow from the ship as well. Lighting is basically the same thing just several layers of clouds with fixed light maps
let the guy work on his game he can worry about gay graphics later
>>568489836We're indies, graphics is half the battle
>>568489886>graphics is half the battle90% of the battle unless your game is quirky
>>568488893>he doesnt know
>>568490793I'm dissapointed this didn't turn into a car driving on the moon
>>568490793I'm assuming this is just one minigame out of like 50 right?
>>568489324>I am actually using procedual shaders for the hull with great results!Oh I didn't see that from the zoomed out view. Might wanna scale those details up a bit depending on how visible it is in full screen proper res.
>>568484709>Give her a shota bf>(let the male MC fuck him too)nortubel...
>>568489597>Are you the Ships At War chadYes, that is me. I am still working on the re-write of the game. I need to get this update ready to ship, the steam discussions hurt to read but I have been stuck in doing contract work since the game doesn't pay enough to do full time. Hopefully this changes with the update..>>568488456>>568487293>Is it like 1v1 with sort of (real time?) battleship gameplayIt is exactly that, you aim your guns, aircraft etc. and try to hit the enemy ship while trying to keep yours afloat by repairing it, moving it into position and keeping water out. It is pretty fun to try to manage your ship while being bombarded>pic related is my game before the re-write>>568486861>I think the pixelated style had more charmI agree but this is an update for my already released game, I am stuck with this artstyle even though it would be a better fit
>>568445782abrasive behaviour ?
>Claude cannot complete this request>Doesn't give you a retry
>>568489656>>568489574The ships get worse and worse with every AI edit.The water looks great, not sure how to build this especially because the player can zoom out to see the other ships on the water and aim at them
>>568481782PIPISTRELLO and the cursed yoyo revived my love for zelda-like metroidvanias and my love for video gamesMight play this if it properly scratches that itch.
>>568492195Good to see you are alive. I'm the guy that briefly helped pondering the combat design in the threads long ass time ago (back when the general was about gamedev instead of schizo meltdowns). Did you find any good ideas in the meantime?The steam discussion indeed seems intimidating.
Steam deck is finally back in stock with a $230 price increase(from $550 to $780). Poor Gabe may be struggling financially so be sure you order one to show Valve your support
>>568492864here I have some suggestions myself
>>568492864My guess is waves move differently depending on their Y level like they go fast until they start to rise and go slower and slower until they finally peak and then fall down into the water. I think adding slight bloom to the white line of the water will do wonders
>>568465535RETVRN TO CALLING HOPOOS RISK OF RAIN SHIT IN REAL TIME
After all, why not?.. Why shouldn't I just cut all the side quests and side content from my content and release it as a separate DLC? Make gamercunts pay for all that extra work!
>>568493273
>>568493535Metal Slug kino
>>568493535not stimulating enough, needs brighter colors
>>568493273gabencunt need dat yacht, yo!
>>568492864looks pretty good to me>>568493636the move to discord was great after this shit heap
>>568493843I got you
>>568493235Thanks anon, glad you are still here! I have a pretty clear roadmap on how to get this done>The steam discussion indeed seems intimidating.I don't know what to tell them, the only thing I can do is to get this update finished, reduce the price and exit EA to get this under control. I am just glad people are so passionate about my boat game>>568493586Thanks for the help how tf do I add this into a shader though, my watershader is already at 600 loc
>>568494462>how tf do I add this into a shader thoughmodularity, you did split it up into sensible functions did you not?
>>568494392>>568493535This looks pretty cool!>>568494775no, everything is in frag aside from some math functions
>>568495061I got it working!
>>568495423woah, once they download the model and prompt the game they can see the next 4 seconds in 2min
>>568494392the minimum to maintain gen-skibidi attention for 1 second
>>568494392Where's the rape button on this thing?
>>568437531goblin rape comes after the female player model is ingot player death working
>>568493721Just make linear games instead of open world slop. Then there are no sidquests just new levels
>>568495897post 69 games posted this year that panned out like that
>>568495820I'm built like this and get beat up by goblins 1/4 my size. It's really embarrassing.
>>568495962Homura Hime, Broken Lore: Unfollow, Darwin's Paradox, Gunboat God, Cthulhu: The Cosmic Abyss, LOVE ETERNAL, Wax Heads, Pony Island 2: Panda Circus, What's the Password?, Heavy Metal Death Can, The Remake of the End of the Greatest RPG of All Time, Cardburners, Mnemonimov, System Overload, Over the Hill, Mitch, Besmirch, Music Power Up, InKONBINI, Dosa Divas, Echoes of Mora, KuloNiku: Bowl Up!, People of Note, Black Jacket, Thrifty Business, Crashout Crew, Scale the Depths, Moonsigil Atlas, Mistaken, SCAD, Cakey & Tanaka: CandyLand Adventure, Super Firefighter, Regeneration Engine, Coreward, Tale of Chak Chak, The Angel's Mandate, Arcana Rift, Inkwellers, Well Dweller, Rockbeasts, Virtue and a Sledgehammer, Blue Ridge Hunting, Lucidity Engine, Neon Tether, Cipher Grid, Iron Pulse, Cryptic Echo, Shutter Panic, Void Runner Redux, Aegis Protocol, Kinetic Strike, Filament Drift, Cobalt Protocol, Sector 9 Escape, Phantom Gear, Retro Grade 26, Chroma Step, Vector Shift, Signal Decay, Basalt, Terminal Velocity Indie, Zenith Line, Foundry Break, Quartz Catalyst, Pixel Forge, Aegis Command, Static Pulse, Velvet Rust, Mono Chrome Ascent
>>568496516>fake ai slop namesbro... nobody boughted those "games"
>>568496606Some of them are fake and some are realThe fun is finding out which ones
>>568496883bastard bitch
>>568494462>my watershader is already at 600 locthat's it?>>568495061>everything is in fragAnon, I...
>>568495061What not using AI does to a motherfucker
>interview today with a medium sized game studio>interviewer: "You seem like a great fit, anon. Before we move to the next stage, what's your expected compensation?">actually acted like a Chad for once and refused to give a number and asked for their budget instead>interviewer: "This is a fixed-budget role. The salary is [20% lower than what I currently make]">sorry... I actually make 20% more than that right now, so it wouldn't make sense for me career-wise>interviewer: "Oh, okay. Guess we just end the call here then">Yeah, I guess>interviewer: "Alright, bye">wait, you'll still reach out if other roles open up within my range, right? I'm also interested in X, Y, and Z positions>interviewer: "Yeah, yeah, sure anon. Bye, have a great day"I am never hearing from her again, am I?
>>568497993Did you actually want the job or no? If no, that went well.
>>568497993You have to be a team player Anon also you gave her the ick, never flaunt your salary
>>568497993don't act like a chad if you're not one, just look at the retard that call himself chad all the time
>>568498582but my name is chad
>>568497993no interviews in order to ericmaxx
>>568498582
>>568497993>The salary is [20% lower than what I currently make]">>sorry... I actually make 20% more than that right nowyou do know these two statements can't both be true, right?
>>568496516>Protocol Oh no... !
It floppededed so hard I don't want to make a game in this genre anymore.
>>568499361You could say it wasn't exactly an industry giant
>>568499361I just looked at the reviews. It flopped because the game was is an incredibly broken piece of shit.
>>568499643It had a team of 12, compared to my team of 1 (2 if you count my imaginary girlfriend giving emotional support)I have no chance, even if my graphics looked like RCT2 (which in itself would be a lot of work, too)
swimming class
>>568499892are they of age?
>>568500630yes, 19 and 22 respectively.
>>568500819oof, dropped.
I miss when the AI spammer posted low poly lolis instead of shitty memes.
>>568500819yikes... there goes any interest i've had.
Whenever I succeed in programming, I feel such relief.
>>568500819hell yeah, this is perfect for degenerate adult women fetishists like me.
>>568501008
>>568497993>tried to get a higher cut 'like a chad'>instantly acted desperate 'like a pussy'Anon what are you doing. Where are you pulling these life lessons you base your actions around from?
>>568497993>herIt was over before it ever began.
>>568499892>tactics curse>look inside>no tactics
>>568502116barachod
these threads are so dead. Theres barely any progress
>>568503005post game
>>568499892M-marmo?
>>568503005
>>568503005the whole website has been dying for yearswhere's your game? or are you just another dime a dozen nodev?
>>568503005I don't want to because I get mocked when I do
Progress: This is theme of rape sex minigame that plays in my Chao garden Sakura raising game:https://vocaroo.com/1iV7BO2Yp1fZThoughts?
You've heard of friendslop, but what about familyslop?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPwY3Dy_z4g
>>568481782it's not even based on a good zelda, its gameboy zelda. No zoomer wants to play this. These devs are deving out of nostalgia.
>>568501554your final score is based on how many children you had after the ending.>>568502116training ur wolfgirls is an important process for maximizing your tactical ability>>568503161no
>>568503405It's a bit chaotic.
>>568503467I wish I had parents
>>568503405
>>568481782>rat is f*malewoke trash
>>568503868We love females here thougheverbeit.
>>568504035thoughverbait*
>>568503005It's not dead enough
>>568503405Here is post-coitus version that plays after You and Sakura have both having experienced a climax together: https://voca.ro/13C1wQZW4UZoI am hoping to have prototype together for next DemoDay and Steam Next Fest
>post progress>get bullied>no longer post progress it's that shrimple
>>568503405>>568504580this better not be bait
>>568504616gora moment
>>568493801how many millions of sales do you need to do this?
>have all kinds of programs I can use>can do all kinds of art and music>still, barely even startI know it would take me a day to make something. if only I could focus...oh wait - a ten hour vidya essay?! toodles
>>568504580>>568503405https://youtu.be/yGf-4dNriBo
>>568505512turn off your phone. it's that simple. cellphones are society's biggest thread right now. distraction and surveilance machines that only make you waste time by giving you instant access to social media and trillions of hours of useless slop. turn off your phone and start devving so you change your life
>>568505682i like that track
>>568445562That's exactly what I'm doing.I'm struggling with the layers for the scene selector.Clipping and FOV are saving my butt.
>>568505706I barely touch my phone since nobody calls me and I'm surrounded by multiple computers... nor do I use social media, I just shitpost here. There's just something wrong with me
What are you supposed to do if you are a person who's been neglected your whole life to the point where every single thing you do is because you're trying to impress others to get their love and attention, but you have nothing meaningful to say and nothing to create out of genuine passion, and only do it in the hopes others will finally see you?
>>568506025Same with high FOV
>>568506025Nice.
i streamed making some music and i realized that what's really fucked up about it is when you try to impress people. you become so desperate to make something cool, to find a cool sound or any secret that produces absolute addictive music.but in reality, it's the opposite. i enjoy listening to classical music. that type of music is just nice. it's not like being on crack, cocaine and weed all at the same time. it's just... good. it's nice. it's not trying to impress, it's just trying to be beautiful.maybe that's why music is such a race to the bottom, it always has to be more polarizing, more fucked up, more provocative.actually ideally i would have streamed on a toilet and sampled fart sounds, rapping about turd eating. that would entertain people. this would have brand value. the toilet rapper who loves his turds.but if you just play some nice piano, nobody cares.trying to impress people is really a curse. but i notice something similar in gamedev. you can either try to make that funny next indie hit. or you can go the route of just trying to make a classic. an rts, a roguelike, a city builder etc. - but then it's all about quality, about making something beautiful, something that is a work of art. but that wont be a fad of the month.who actually still cares about schedule 1? nobody. yet it made tons of money. it seems to work for the money. but you...damn i'm done rambling. maybe someone can turn my text into a coherent thought that makes sense.
>>568506507I know how you feel, anonwas going to write something more but it wouldn't have been "cool" and supportive enough anyway
>>568506507I streamed myself making music recently, and it made me realize something unpleasant: the moment you start trying to impress people, the whole process becomes corrupted.You stop making music for its own sake. Instead, you become desperate to find a cool sound, a secret trick, or some addictive formula that will make people immediately pay attention. You start chasing impact instead of beauty.But the music I actually enjoy most is not like that. I like classical music because it is simply beautiful. It is not trying to feel like crack, cocaine, and weed all at once. It is not screaming for attention. It is just good. It is pleasant. It wants to be beautiful, not shocking.Maybe that is why so much music feels like a race to the bottom. Everything has to be more polarizing, more provocative, more grotesque, more extreme. If I really wanted attention, I should have streamed from a toilet, sampled fart sounds, and rapped about eating turds. That would entertain people. It would have brand value: the toilet rapper who loves his turds.But if you just sit down and play a nice piano piece, nobody cares.Trying to impress people is a curse. I notice the same thing in game development. You can either chase the next funny indie hit, the kind of thing that becomes a meme and sells because people want to be part of the joke, or you can try to make something timeless: an RTS, a roguelike, a city builder, or some other classic form.But if you take the second path, everything depends on quality. You have to make something beautiful, something polished, something that can stand as a real work of art. It probably will not become the fad of the month.Who still cares about Schedule I? Almost nobody. And yet it made a lot of money. Chasing trends clearly works, at least financially.But it leaves you with a miserable question: are you making something because it is good, or because it might impress people for five minutes?
>>568507213>Who still cares about Schedule I?During my last friendslop gaming session, someone brought up that we should play Schedule I next time. There are currently 11,864 people laying Schedule I right this moment, which is more than all /agdg/ games released in the last decade combined. You're completely delusional and out of touch. Just make a good fun game that people want to play.
>>568507758for selling that amount of copies, it lost players really fast. meanwhile stardew valley, rimworld and terraria are still rocking hard.schedule 1 will not go down as a classic.
>>568508314who cares, he made bank
>>568508314>an early access game has less players than games with a decades worth of post-release updatesYou are coping and seething so hard, and you will never make anything even close.
>>568508314does it really matter in the end?now he can hire a team to spend the next 5 years building an actual game and never go bankrupt
>>568508651Reminder me got front page of Steam because his relative works at Valve, you will probably never see an Indie game from a nobody again on the front page.
>>568509029There's several indie games on the front page right now, John Valve must have a very big family.
>>568509374i look like this btw
>>568509138I should have said, front page's banner
>>568449347I always have at least 3 copies>actual project folder>project in the cloud>project in an external hard driveAt end of each day I update all backups so in the worst case I lose only 1 day of work.
>>568489149yes>>568488670>>568491310i made a few other prototypes but dropped them because they where boring>>568501579i am not him.>>568491104i abandoned that one because i was lazy, i could try to finish itg next week if i don't get any new ideas for a gamealso, progress.
>>568510009>local copy>auto sync to dropbox, google drive and s3 bucket>git repo with 3 different upstreams (github, gitlab, gitea)>monthly backup on external drivenot taking any chances
>>568510062LETS GOOOOOOOOO
>>568510062nigga you have great coloring. where do you post proggy aside from here? do you have more?
I added a state to the enemy so he can runTo, fireUpon and takeCover. fairly simple stuff but it should be enough to add him to the 1st level and start shooting the main character.
>>568481782I don't want to hear games journalists talk about "puzzle solving". They wouldn't know a puzzle if it didn't have a puzzle tag.
>>568506148>enter the white cube dimension
>>568510062
You're hiring Japanese artists for your game, right?
I failed, 996 sisters. Procrastinated all day, and it's halfway through the night now. Not going to sleep today until I make some progress.. I'm never going to finish my game if my neet (unmedicated) adhd brain has its way.
>>568514174succumb to the AI overlordsgreatest shit for adhd everyou just shitpost all day and alt tab to write a prompt and get a dopamine hit from whatever tasks get automatically completed every 5-10 minutes
>>568483339I have added bowwaves!
>>568514060Kinda, I'm buying assets from them.
>>568514060I identify as a japanese artist
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4L24Mga
>>568515423all of the above
>>568504616Most progress posted here deserves and needs to be bullied.The amount of half assed basic shit that shows up here is god awful. Like, so many things that look like shit kids were doing in elementary school 25 years ago or worse. I don't understand why so many people here refuse to learn proper art or to hire a proper artist then come here and pretend they have any sort of game.
>>568516031yeah wtf, this is the professional gamedev general after all
>>568516130This kind of mindset is exactly why you're never going to make it. Amateur means unpaid, not unskilled, talentless, and effortless.
>>568516261>amateur means unpaid>now go and pay proper artistsyawn
>>568514291>use aiIntroduces time bomb bugs where I have to spend more time debugging when shtf later. I still use AI to improve my code or find bugs faster, but I've burned myself way too many times to let it do the thinking for me.
>>568516315Man, education really failed you. Amateur means YOU are unpaid and have no backing. It doesn't mean you don't use your own funds to make things happen. Not sure why you're struggling with this concept.
>>568445782Free
>>568516487that's great anon. hey where's your game?
>>568516315You don't have to pay other artists. The point is that you don't sit there and say "I'm not being paid for this therefore I don't care" and actually spend 6 months or whatever getting good at the art your game needs if you're too poor or lonely to have an artist working with you.
>>568445562I'm depressed again.
>>568516538I don't share my game here, too many pieces of shit here that get jealous. If you post yours though I can recreate it in 3D and make fun of you to prove my point though.
>>568514060What I need is japanese musicians. Or any musicians at all. I really am hoping that I can get someone who is good right at the end when 90% of everything is done.
>>568516946Music is probably the easiest box to tick as an indie with the amount of free songs out there. Everyone praises the Black Souls OST and it's nothing but royalty free tracks slapped together.
>>568516946there's plenty of precedent of people doing kickstarters just to fund their soundtrack.You can always do that too.
>>568513254sashers...
I'll do your songs for you, it'll be $500 a song.
I'll do your game for you, it'll be $500 a game.
>>568516757Same. But I'll feel more depressed if I don't make progress (and don't get proggy post (you)s)
>>568517417Difference is, I actually have a full studio and can properly write and record any sort of song for someone. You can't actually make a game.
>>568517491I gave up posting for (You)s, it really doesn't matter and will just distract you from actual important work.
>>568517142A japanese dev who can't into music? Impossible! I heard everyone there takes piano lessons at childhood...>>568517181What precedents? That'd be cool. I'd like to at least cover the steam fee.
>>568518272Everyone that takes piano lessons during childhood grows up hating music.
>>568518436I doubt it. I see quite the opposite. Usually it's people forced into band in 7th grade or whatever who don't give a fuck about the trumpet.
>>568518436where did you get that from? reddit?
Should I make my CRPG in godot unity or unreal?>Unity pros: Familiar with it>Unit cons: It's unity>Unreal pros: It's unreal, familiar with it>Unreal cons: It's unreal, familiar with it>Godot pros: ?>Godot cons: Unfamiliar with it
>>568519772Godot
>>568519772Godot.
>>568518272just the /agdg/ OG https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/riskofrain/risk-of-rain
>>568518436I wish I had taken piano lessons instead of recorder lessons.
UI might be the worst type of gamedev work. I wonder how those devs that make menu simulators like those japanese games can do it? It's such a tedious job.And in the end, the UI that you design and implement might not even look good or might have to be rearranged to be better or something.Truly the people who make games that don't need much UI are blessed.
>>568514060I hired one. He seems to have died.
>>568520725Piano is easy as shit these days (programming wise not actively playing).Just learn fucking chords (ACEGBDF) and learn keys (circle of fifths) and boom you can create anything easily.
>>568520862Did you know?SOTN's pause menu is placeholder, they just never got around to the art pass before release.Now you Know~!
>>568520862>the people who make games that don't need much UI are blessed.For them, it's just momentary relief from eternal suffering. UI games sell way better on PC/Steam.>like those japanese gamesThose are made by a full office of Japanese wagecucks working 80 hour weeks for years on end.
>>568517181>there's plenty of precedent of people doing kickstarters just to fund their soundtrack.>>568520656>$7,000 goalAre music really that cheap?
>>568522046Of course, I just offered to do your songs for $500 song. It's a steal because writing game songs is pretty easy to do.
>>568521263Makes sense
>>568510062how do i get this good at drawing little girls?
>>568522583
>>568522835I gave up on loomis when I was drawing heads over and over without learning anything
>>568507758>>568508314schedule 1 annoys the piss out of me because it's literally farmville. I just didn't realize what "gamers" were looking for. apparently everyone wants farmville
>>568522835this and the donut tutorial has been a disaster for art beginners
>Everyone borrows mechanics from everyone>Decide to convert my favorite board game into a digital version>Looking good.mp5>Okay let's add my cool ideas>It's shit and completely detracts from the good parts of the designwell that's humbling i guess
>>568523343That's because tutorials aren't always necessary. Sometimes people need to just dive in and try to do something then look up how to do what they are trying to do bit by bit. Not everyone learns the same way. Problem is, those people don't know how they learn best because education failed them so they try the wrong thing then give up when it doesn't work.
>>568523404Many such cases. Game design is the hardest part of game development.
>>568522835do I need to start with a pencil or can I buy a tablet?
i might project hop againshare your game development music to prevent project hop desires https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKpqIw-D0A
>>568469705>their workplace personality is their real personality!Kek>>568517417Have you made games for others before and if so can I see them?
>>568523681nigguh u finna be gettin high off dat graphite smell
The amount of people that post things then never reply to continue the conversation is insane in these threads. Does gen z just not know how to properly hold a conversation anymore? The fuck is this shit.
huh?
>>568526101sometimes I can't think of a funny reply then I start scrolling and forget I even posted in the thread
>>568526839Usually it happens with normal/serious posts so you shouldn't need to be funny. Either way, no one here is funny anyway.
>>568470907But I AM Richard Garfield!!
>>568526907>normal/serious postsin this thread?
>>568526101I don't even get reply when I post progress.This place is a garbage dump, and the only things that live here are crabs
>>568527217Yes.>>568527223Is it good? I only comment on good progress or terrible progress. Also if you're one of the people spamming shit every time you hit save practically then I stop caring.
>>568526101
>>568526101The ephemeral nature of this place is the point. You shouldn't expect a reply, people just post whatever comes to mind here. I'm really just too tired to hold a conversation personally.
>>568519772If you're already comfortable with Unity I don't really see the point in switching to Godot post runtime fee removal. The more I use Godot and look at the development the more I get annoyed about it. At least Unity is mature and has a proven ecosystem
Last time I posted some rogue gameplay, here's some wizard.
>>568528262Here's what I have as far as classes are concerned. I also added some new item attributes to make loot more varied.
>>568528262Is this not just Black (flash game)?
>>568528918It's really just dark and darker (flash game). I figured it a PUBG flash game could get popular, why not a similar extraction game (and one I actually enjoy)
Chowayo, chowayo, /agdg/ chowayo!
>>568528241I'm not saying I expect replies. I'm saying someone posts something and I reply, then they reply back and then I reply then they disappear. It happens all the time. It would be like ordering a meal at a mcdonalds and after you ordered a fry and nuggets you just walked away from the counter and went outside. It's nonsense.
>food analogy
>>568529208 b
I'll trade a magic trick for some capsule art
>>568523674Worse is having the ego from dissecting and understanding what makes their design work and believing my introductions were somehow "better" >those people who copy don't even know how good of a thing they're ripping off from, unlike me!11
>>568529594auuuuuuuuuu
>>568493138huh might have to give it a whirl (heh)bc playing that (awful) LA remake made me realize just how utterly burned out I am by the formula
>>568529609does it involve a hairbrush?
>>568529609>>568530287
>>568524742this one always gets me in a good dev moodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzbUZe_3Psvanilla wow music is great too, especially since I want to evoke its style in my game
>>568470745You doing a digital /acg/? nicedetail your play zones while you show me them juicy resource curves
>>568530482>brakesaar...
>>568471481>response to being called 'jeet' is posting AI slopwhat did sir mean by this?
>>568530373'risu...
LMAO at aggy "game developers" thinking they can do 996 when they don't even have a demo after 2 years.What a joke. Just keep shitposting about your inspo folders getting found, or coom sessions before deving (which you never start), or whatever AI/ Luddite bullshit the schizos are fighting over.
>>568531494I start my coom sessions very consistently.
>>568524742fukkin same and this time the lure is >if I'm not going to finish any of these might as well do the "big one" that I keep telling myself I'll never finish >>568530443first time I don't want to rip my ears off to dungeon synth, nice
>>568531239um, who is the arisu poster?Why did Kanna stop posting the dragon maid girl and switch to Sakura?
>>568523302loomis is a psychopath
>>568531943What are you working on, gogem? Have you lost all passion in gamedev by this point?
>>568533081How does he lose what he never had?
Game is now 70% of the way done. I am officially calling this 'alpha'. All the slots exist and it's fun through the game, so it's now about swapping out all of the assets. The hardest part of game dev is actually becoming a producer to focus on making the game complete
>If you want to make a 3D game, make sure you outsource a large portion of your assets instead of attempting to create everything yourself, otherwise you will find yourself on a one-way trip to crab city.I read the AGDG Resources page. While I think this is good advice, I'm not sure how to act on it. What are some platforms to find people to outsource 3D asset creation to? Anyone with experience doing this? If so, how did you get in contact with people open to collaboration/willing to work for commission? What were the prices like, and how did you feel about the experience overall?
>>568537386If you're having to ask this question, then the better advice for you would be to not try to make a game that would require so many 3D assets. Start with Pong, faggot.
>>568538230I'm just looking for a lead on some cheap Filipino or possibly Indonesian labor, man
This place sucks. The fact that everyone disappears by like midnight and the thread dies just shows it's a bunch of fucking children posting here lmfao.
>>568538540That's how you end up with Warcraft 3 Reforged.
added:>ball cam>air roll (not in vid related)>arena constraints for the player>goals now floating, anchored buoys that you can movetesting 1 buoy per team for now with a cylindrical prism goal volumeprobably will try a rectangular prism goal volume in between 2 buoys instead
>>568539289Is this Gerstner League
>>568537386commissioned my personal watercraft in >>568539289 for $100 like 5 years ago (finally getting around to using it, no judging pl0x)>>568539491I looked that up and found no resultsthis project is untitled
>>568505682Based talented composer. This sounds dope - it reminds me of Univers Zero. https://youtu.be/oceVTSu0TBY?si=KJipmN23R_ma8QQY&t=536The average anon has shit taste in music as expected. There is no way that track can be considered worse than "flute forest #9123049" or "steel drum beach #8923174" if only for the simple observation that it is interesting enough not to be worth muting.
>>568538540It doesn't matter if you never make the game to put them into, retard.
>>568540569Music is easy to make. The average person has shit music taste regardless of being the average anon.
TIL there's a term for perma/beg/ kenyan helicopter progress that end up nowhere.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_bias
>>568538540Ignore that guy, he sounds like the bitter "make pong" poster. I have no advice for you though as i have no clue, just make sure you vet whoever you gett. Got 1st world prices from a 3rd worlder -_- on a 1 time thing
>>568539817>I looked that up and found no results
>>568531696>if I'm not going to finish any of these might as well do the "big one" that I keep telling myself I'll never finishThats a really good lureMy current lure that is showing up is>okay just give up and go make those games you've wanted to make for years but didn'tI want to make roguelikes but they certainly don't succeed in most cases. This would be so easy to follow through on if I was already rich.
>>568540927YEEEEE CLAWWWWW! Grim I've taken action before when I could've simply done nothing and saved my time.
>>568541234please make the roguelike of your dreams bocchi-kun
I'm ngl, many times when I read this thread I get the same feeling that when I visit /ic/ /beg/ threads and realize that Aristotle was 100% right and there are simply natural born slaves, and others who are slaves solely by convention or law.A lot of people will fundamentally ngmi, because they don't have neither the talent, or motivation, to actually make a successful game and should instead live a life of being an eternal wagie.Then you accept that all of society is like this and come to the conclusion that both China and Peter Thiel are completely right, and people shouldn't have any right to anything, instead living life as dictated by a controlled economy. The ones who rebel to this idea being used as biofuel to keep the cogs running.
>>568445990What's their endgame?
>>568542460Post progress
>>568542460While true this is also cringe and gay. These are thoughts best saved for the round table of rich faggots sniffing their own farts.
I think I'm gonna make it this time, guys.I got invited to showcase my prototype in a local event.Yeah sure, it's a tiny as fuck event that nobody even know exist, and it's in the library, and my game is not fully ready yet.But it's my first step towards being a game dev, even though it's just a tiny baby step.
>>568543162good job buddy, keep working hard
It's crazy how much better I am than all of you.
>>568541181oh those gerstners, they're built into the third party water system called Crest
>>568543162congratulations anon I hope you will finish making it
>>568544356Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get raped again tomorrow.
I haven't been paying much attention, but as it been a few days since Devil May Cris's last progress post? Is he finally burnt out?
Why is Unreal considered bad for beginners? Seems very intuitive to me but I never used Unity albeit
>>568544787He left us for /v/, got some really good advice, followed it, fixed his combat, and achieved gamedev nirvana. He doesn't need anybody anymore
>>568546908It's not bad for beginners. It's bad for solodevs. It's fine for if you have a studio of about 20 people. The only things solodevs have ever shipped with UE are shovelware asset flips.
Burn out only happens if you don't have a concrete idea of where you are going btw.If you already know how the gameplay will be, the mechanics you want to implement, art style, length, then the only thing that's left is to make it a reality and your main motivation will be the $$$ that's at the end of the journey.If you have already solved all of the above then you will never project hop, "burn out", or abandon the project, as the game is already theoretically made, it's only a matter of bringing it from an idea into reality.This is the only place in the world in which all the "aspiring game developers" will attack you and call you retarded for prototyping, drawing concepts and actually planning the game, instead suggesting for you to waste your time by simply starting a million projects, using assets that they didn't make or using AI, and release all these incomplete, half assed, shitty projects and pray that someone will buy it.
>>568547295what do the best be for solodevs?
>>568547389Unreal Engine, don't listen to the crab. It's entirely a skill issue.
>>568497993Anon, what's your current job? You DO know that game developer salaries across the board are up to 50% lower than software engineers in any other professions right? Assuming you're at some boring corporate job right now, and assuming you're a nerd who likes video games, a 20% cut is a decent deal to move into a younger studio with a culture that fits your personality better, plus the opportunity to network with other game devs. A lot of game studios, including the guys who made Hollow Knight, the guys who made FTL, the guys who made Enter the Gungeon, and even Valve started with 2-3 programmers quitting their job together to go full-time on a random game they talked about at lunch break in their old company.
>>568547529and why do it be like that?
my game poo poo
MY GAME ENRICHED URANIUM
>>568548138Faggots can't into 3d modeling, texturing, shaders or animations. The engine already has a million courses both in blueprints or actual coding for how to do any shitty game you will ever want to make.People are simply intimidated due to the million options. It's like how people pretend that Zbrush is actually written in an alien language compared to Blender simply because it has more options.Instead, what the crabs in here will advice you, is to create the 10000000th 2d, pixelart, platformer and to make 15 sales total (all of them are irl friends and family), then you'll get depressed and never make a game again, return to your life as a wagie, your gf will start earning 2x as much as you do, she will cuck you and break up with you (hypergamy is a real thing). You will quit your job, grow fat, go bald, and kill yourself after three years of isolating yourself and barely bathing.Meanwhile instead you could have said "yeah, using UE5 will be a little harder, but the possibility for a high quality product is exponentially higher (specially if the graphics are stylized to avoid the UE5 look that realistic games get), so I will man up, and do it anyways because I want my life to actually amount to something"."But where will I find all these resourses for how to do all of this, it's impossible for a man like me to start, I better stick to doing shitty 2d, pixelart, games like 99% of the other guys in here". Rutracker, Btdig, CGpersia, and the /ic/ telegram groups have all the resources a solo game dev will ever need.
If you're first game isn't a unreal 5 horror game, can u even call urself a gamedev?
>>568546908I think Unreal is much easier than Unity. Better pre-set options and blueprints are great if you're a retard like me and are bad at reading.If you're already leaning towards Unreal, then absolutely use it or at least give it a try.
>>568549389ye
If an engine can make game it doesn't mattermake gaem
>>568445562My game's UI has had a bit of an update
>>568546908Everything is bad for beginners. Beginners most of the time shouldn't even be using engines, they should learn how to properly create a game from scratch so they understand fundamentals then go into an engine. After that nothing matters other then time spent in the program to learn every nook and cranny of it.
Working on runtime map generation. It's just spawning square arenas today, but in the future it'll be dungeons, mines, etc.
how good is 3d ai generator at generating armor/clothes? especially ones with layers? i can deal with retopology rigging weight painting i just hate modeling
>>568549963>just hobble yourselves to miss the last boat for even partially human game development
>>568550068
Spent an hour doing ui mockups just for a simple description popup. Nothing looks good. Fml.>>568550068Soul. I like that you have realm in the name and that you said that realm of the mad god was part of the inspiration too. Looking forward to how the generated dungeons will look like.>>568549761Will the title also be pixelated?
>>568549761Very nice ui and new game title. I just beat it the other day.
>>568543862I hope I can some day become as narcissistic as you.
>>568543862
>>568551396
>>568551772It's pretty easy to do, just be awesome and work hard with your natural god given talents to accomplish amazing things. I don't even have to try.
>>568551772lana...
I offer full support if you promise to released you're game on Android devices
>>568553057>Android devicesNot worth it, you need to make your home address public to do that.
>>568501940imagine trying to work and then you got these bitches at your office
>>568501940>waow my job is soooo stressful!>the job
>>568519772Godot is trash you will regret if you try to use itThere's no engine out there that compares to Unity when it comes to usability.
>>568553419we got anons actively sabotaging each other, oofat least suggest unreal instead of hobbling them with the worst option
>>568539817you paid 100 for THAT? lmao
in the last week I've managed to create a new shooting animation for the main character as well as an animation for the dodge left/right.the enemy character can also take aim at a target so the next tasks will involve setting up the first enemies to shoot at.The first stage is just starting to be built aswell.in the webm she has no target, so the aiming is wild.
>>568543162Just remember that the people there are going to be overly nice because they don't wanna upset anyone in public. Take the feedback you get with a very large grain of salt. This applies to every case of showing your game in person to anyone.
>>568553560Unreal is fucking trash when it comes to usability. The whole engine is working against you making a game.
>>568553847I'd take an engine working against me instead of an engine scheming to murder me in my sleep like Unity.
>>568553713I'm really interested to see how this game plays. Feels like a PS2 era game back when every shooter didn't play exactly the same.
>>568519772How are you familiar with TWO engines and still incapable of answering this question for yourself? >>568543162Post pics of the event when it's done. I don't have these opportunities so living vicariously through someone else is the best I can do.
>>568553735I'm thinking of having a QR code for a google survey.Think that will make people more honest in feedbacks?Either way, my main takeaway from the event will be networking with others, and observing live testers in person. (Are they visibly having fun at certain point? Are they playing the game, or just test it out, then leave? Are they going for another round? Are there audience behind the tester watching them play?)>>568554201No can do.I don't want to be recognizable around here.I can however tell you about the experience when it happens.
>>568551396>>568551908Based
>>568553942thanks, the biggest inspiration is PN03 on Gamecube. I am pushing to have something for DD69
I read something about training dogs, that some of them can be "food motivated" which makes them easier to train by rewarding them with food. The phrase "food motivated" is used mostly for dogs, but I feel like it could apply to me as well. What, am I better than a dog? I'm no better than a dog. I'll do tricks for sweets. So I've decided if I work over my 5 hour quota today, then tomorrow I'll reward myself with donuts after breakfast. I'm sick of this still life shit.123 days left, I owe 1250 minutes of work. Today I'll be doing some UI and writing.
>>568554594Nice nice, looking forward to it. Thought it had some PN03 vibes but I've never played it.
how i prevent my godot game from being open sourced
>>568514414looks a lot better already
>>568554404>I don't want to be recognizable around here.Don't post pics of your face, just post pics of other booths or stuff, and maybe impressions on those games as if you were just an onlooker to the event. (Assuming you have time to check other places out and aren't busy with your own booth or whatever, in which case understandable.)
>>568514414next: sea spray!
>>568445562progress, hair splits and small streaks
>>568553928The kike era of Unity is behind us. They got their stock manipulation money and they moved onto the next abuse target.If you look at Unity as an engine instead of worrying about the stupid shit the company might do then it's simply the best engine out there.
>>568555206nta but posting pics of the event could get him doxxed and stalked by some schizo from here which is why I wouldn't similarly just attaching his game to these posts could lead to someone hunting down the event and doxxing that way
>>568556290My god, current day AGDG is a bunch of sissies.
>>568555016No one cares about open sourcing your garbage game
>>568497993Kek had something like this happen when I asked for higher pay. No attempt of negotiating she just fucking ended it there. It was even in the field I wanted to work in at the time -_-
>>568498876I appreciate you
>>568556668current day AGDG is also full of schizos and pdfs
>600 hours>ur game is doo doo because uhhh your dlcs are expensive!Why are gaymers like this? The game didn't always use to have DLCs and was good back then. Why complain about additional content added over years of development?
>>568557781why are you in agdgfuck off
Oh SHIIIIIIIIT
>>568557781this is actually a based review. rimworld selling DLCs that are 30 bucks is insanity. locking features that should be base game. they should just make a sequel if they had any integrity. selling dlc at these prices for those features warrants a handful of unfair negative reviews, just a part of da deal
>>568558168>2 dayswhats the point?
>>568557781Why do you care so much about some random game's negative reviews? You really got nothing better to do than spam AGDG with off-topic shit? >"uhm akthually there's game in the general's title that means I can talk about anything game or gamer related here"Not how it works buddy.
>>568558181>locking features that should be base game.How the fuck do you decide that? Would you rather the game just stopped updating after 1.0? DLCs are needed to continue financing the development of the game.@568558058@568558232shut the fuck up autistic retards
>>568558225They're extending it as those were placeholder dates. I believe they said it'll run for 4 days as that potentially will get them featured more if they don't overlap with another event.
>>568558327That's now how you quote posts on 4chan silly, here you go >>568558058>>568558232
>>568558327bro KILL YOURSELFthis is AGDG not your tumblr faggy tranny twitter blogcan you TRY to talk about amateur gamedev and not your ecelebrity you fucking double niggeri fucking hate retards like you
>>568558327i just think its a gay way to spend 200 bucks on a game. just gimme a sequel for 40
what a comfy gamedev night...
>>568558425they wont get featured lolwait do people think they'll be in the frontpage?haahahahahahahahait's just a banner on the store page for the games includedit helps a lot for overlap because you have next fest soon and demos can feed each other players and send people to the event video tooyou guys really hate your own event huh
>>568558327>How the fuck do you decide that?Feature = base gameContent = DLCnot that hard
>>568556761yes they do
>>568558168>my game was not ready
>>568558578Nobody thinks they'll be on the front page but per the event hosting overview on Steam it explicitly tells you to ask for additional featuring (one of which is ironically a front page feature). And besides, the bulk of the people that'll be looking at the steam page are going to be doing so during the actual v3 event, not two weeks after.
>>568558906>a week later after the event>random players go to the participating games on their own for unrelated reasons to the event>the event is live in steam>they see it and visit it>they end up watching the video and engaging>this is a bad thing somehowI really dont get you
>>568558702damn you took the words outta my mouth. i cannot believe they locked chiildren behind dlc. tynan is a hypercapitalist even tho i agree with him on game design, his book is a good read for anyone building a sandbox
why is /v/3 a bad thing?
>>568558702Is a new weapon that changes how you play content or feature? PSA for everybody: if you side with gamercattle you don't belong here
>>568559160dunno you tell me I think its good
Added some combat features, and thought it would be time to add descriptions. Tried to play around with the layout, but im not satisfied with any of them. Ill return to it in a few days. Id be thankful for any feedback.Also my interview flopped. They always ask me if i could even carry enough and i try to assure them, but they dont seem convinced. Its over. Hopefully the one tomorrow will prove more successful. Maybe ill have to give drawing porn a try.
>>568559160It's not. The people complaining about it are the people seeing everyone else have fun and they can't join, therefore no one should be having fun.
>>568559095Children are antithetical to the base game (which is supposed to end in 4-6 in-game years)The DLCs are trying to appeal to roleplayers, but they all feel lackluster because RW is not designed to be a roleplaying game.
>>568559298>The people complaining about it are the people seeing everyone else have fun and they can't joinWhat's stopping them from joining?
>>568559195rimworld is literally just too extreme an example. tynan would be gabencunt's apprentice if he could. ur bootlicking to own the steamies.instead of paying 40 for a competent sequel, lets pay 25 for 2 extra features kek. times 4. i bought ideology, it really doesnt justify the price. tynan made a good game, and because of that, he takes full advantage of their dicksuck fanbase with glee. i disagree with that
>>568559513Taking advantage of someone = Providing free updates almost a decade after full release?
>>568559408isnt rimworld a story generator? do you see that as different from a roleplaying game?when i play the game, i get very invested in all the characters, i sort of fit roles for them in my head.im making a rimworld clone and i dont think i can achieve the imagination that rimworld provokes in me. by adding more features i seem to be hindering the philosophy of the entire premise
>>568559195>Is a new weapon that changes how you play content or feature?Feature, content that fundamentally changes how you play can only be considered a feature.>Is content useless then?It depends, most of content and features are there for aesthetic reasons so to sell them as extra make sense.>But this hinders the development of the game, how will they secure more funding?Sell the next version of the game, you can also flip the argument and ask.>What prevents a developer from having feature incomplete or fundamentally broken games and selling DLC as the fix?Nothing, unless you hold developers to some standard, allowing DLC as optional cosmetics is a healthy compromise.
>>568559024Crabs fear the yesdev.
>>568559627>>568559646I just can't side with gamers. they pay money for entertainment, I make games to survive
>>568559731There are a lot of people who live as indentured servants at farms and get paid in food and lodgings for easy work. Or you could raise chickens at a plot of land with no infrastructure
>>568559473The fact they don't have a game.
>>568559731You should be sucking dick to survive, you're a lot better at that, and yet you do it for free what a waste.
>>568559731based for being honest, i cant blame you for hating the worst audience to appeal to. i just think rimworld is a bad example. if tynan ran steam he would tax us 35% im sure
>>568558168I kneel
>>568559731>chose to be a clown by trade>gets mad that people laugh at him You dumbfucks make the weirdest life decisions.
>>568559817>just do manual labor on a farm instead of letting gamers give you money>>568559845>just suck dicks instead of letting gamers give you moneyladies (male) and gentlemen, the buckbroken game"devs" of 2026
>>568559931>>568560115when you do a thing for money, it's your job to get as much money as you can. if you're feeling generous, give to some charity later. surely you can find a more worthy charity than >>568557781 picrel reviewer
>>568560115to become successful, must we love our audiences? serious question.i have a distaste toward gamers, but i like making games and to make a living, i must cater to them.if i hate them because i understand them, that must mean i can provide a service they want in some way no? if i hate them because i dont, would i be a lost cause and ngmi
>>568560303just dont be surprised by negative reviews when you start dlc-maxxing idk what to tell u
>>568559627>isnt rimworld a story generator?'Story generator' is a marketing term. It has no operational use beyond signalling some form of sensationalized procedural event generation.There is an entire YouTube meta about creating content with titles that go, "A squirrel killed my baby, and now we've turned into space cannibals!"In Dwarf Fortress-fashion, you find that people can tell wacky summaries about game events mashing together, so if you're into that type of thing, you'll stay entertained indefinitely.However, if you want a deeper, more internalized experience, RW is not about that.>do you see that as different from a roleplaying game?'Roleplaying' in the sense that you forge and maintain identities? A pawn may spawn with a 'jealous' trait. Ask yourself, how does a person interface with that trait?It doesn't unlock any dialogue options, since the social aspect of RW is very barebones and not at all involved by the player. What it does is create a game state where you are forced to change your resource investment to avoid a semi-permanent mood penalty.The most 'roleplay' you'll get out of the game is drafting all of your pawns, putting them in one room and pausing your game and pretend that they talk to each other as though you're playing with a doll house.
>>568560479I want my reviews to be just good enough to not sink my game and no better. people throwing money at you is the purest form of praise
>>568559731A lot of times when kids grow up being left out of play or never in charge of anything you play with your friends they turn to video games instead, some of them turn into game developers. To this brand of developer, play is something that follow set rules with a strict hierarchy, the game master and his lackeys whose approval he bargains for with promises, material possessions or status. They never consider that the game master, might not have been a master at all, that he simply was the one that knew how to have fun and to make things fun for everyone else. That the game 'master' was rarely considered his own feelings, that he derived meaning from everyone having a memorable experience.
>>56855927310 for me
>>568560521A pawn spawns with a jealous trait. suddenly, every decision is contextualized by that. The pawn helps his ex wife as she is sick. suddenly your brain imagines the context, the jealous pawn, even in his jealousy, nurses his ex wife for the sake of the colony and for her. there is love there. what a nice story.The lack of gameplay adds to the gameplay, its a formula thats hard to top. i just dont know how to make my game better than that, without extreme dev time. Regarding the social aspect, i agree, but thats not a weakness IMO. It's just flavortext and isnt the core of the storymaybe it didnt click for you, it didnt for the first few runs.Do you have any recommendations for games that you prefer over rimworld? i bounced off of DF but i love rimworld. it is for a much casual audience
>>568560479Rimjobworld's reviews in the past 30 days are 96% positive. if anything, Tynan didn't fleece them hard enough.
>>568559273wtf is this a tactics game? so fucking based....
>>568559273maybe something like this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2919790/Gravewatch/behold the fate of ai games, lmao. 3 years in development using ai assets and not a peep about progress, and the development goal is still the most uninspired piece of crap you could build towards, lol. even if ai can make an asset or write code, it's pretty much only in the hands of retarded assholes who want their temu game to go megaviral.
>>568561483feels trans coded
>>568561721gee what gave it away? was it the artstyle that appears to be informed exclusively by the coomer artist that the dev jacks off to?
>>568561721>>568561805sharty raid
>>568560161>>just suck dicks instead of letting gamers give you moneyYes this is directed at (You), since you like sucking dicks more than you like making games. I love making games and I love making my audience happy, I love reading their reviews and comments, so I don't have your problems.Everyone should do the thing they're best at. Well in your case I guess it's shitting up AGDG, shame they don't pay for that.
>>568560376>to become successful, must we love our audiences? serious question.yes you fucking jackass, are you kidding me? what fucking movie, book, anything was ever made by someone or some studio that abjectly hated the audience they were cooking for? the closest you can get is hayao miyazaki and he DIDN'T hate his audience while he was making his best movies. how actually retarded do you need to be to think this?>i hate games, i hate gamers, i want to be a game devliterally kys
>>568561924this would be really funny if you didn't actually have any games out yet. which I'm not accusing you of, just raising it as a hilarious possibility
>>568561873you wish. if random retards can clock it from this far away then the random retards looking at it on steam will, too. commit to the queer audience and you'll be fine, but don't expext success or normie appeal.
>>568562105not reading that
>confirms to everyone that they read it and it bothered them enough to commentless learned ig: don't cross the streams. if you want to jack off, go jack off, and leave the jackoff aesthetic in your probably pedophilic porn collection, THEN go to work.
>pedophilia out of nowhereyep it's a sharty raid
hades was made by and for coomers but there's a real game there so unless you're as confident as the hades team is with your gameplay i would skip the coomer aesthetic
>>568562324>made by and for coomersmade by and for tumblrinas and fujos*
>shares dumb shit>dumb shit gets clocked as dumb shit>i'm being raided!schizo on deck
>>568558327>DLCs are needed to continue financing the development of the game.in theory this is a nice idea but for rimworld they're making bank it's one of the best selling games on steam they don't need to charge that high for dlchonestly any dlc that's like above 5-10 (depending on the game) is scummy
>>568562415those are subsets of coomers but yes. it actually shows in the art, too, just like things can be inherently pedo-coded, which overlaps hugely with trans-coded. you can practically use them interchangeably.
>>568562506>those are subsets of coomersnot really
>>568562324hades is for everyone
>>568561613>implying that's an AI game>Gravewatch contains a small number of textures that were either enhanced or generated using AI tools.
>>568562539yes they are lmao. their hobby is 100% based on jacking it. that's it, that's all. you can argue that they might need a story to REALLY jack off, but jacking off is ultimately their hobby.>>568562595this feels like that time when michael hackson gave that interview and was like "it's normal for stranger's kids to sleep in my bed" lmfao, bro no it ain't
One thing worth flagging
>>568561993i like games, i hate gamers. idk what to tell u
bro bringing up child rape out of nowhere what the fuck is wrong with him
>self-loathing retard with a superiority complexyep it's a troonaloid
>568562771issa shartykid
>can't cope with their own inferiority so there must be a group of imaginary friends somewhere making their life hardyep, it's trannytime
thoughts on mouse click vs wasd movement in a CRPG? imo manual movement is making a comeback
I have a crush on one of the /agdg/ devs
>>568562620That's the criteria by which shitposter-kun defines an "AI game" and tells us it's the future, yes. It doesn't matter if 10,000s of employees worked on the game, it's still AI.
>>568562465Tynan could be collecting money for RW 2.0
please don't tell me your crush is sakuraposter or else... you may have unfriendly competition >:(
>>568562953wasd movement is less of a headache>no pathfinding>no raycasting (ths is if you have 3d environment)
>>568562998>it isn't an AI game>looks inside>nothing but AI scripts read by AI voices coming from AI character models moving around in an AI asset gamespace>"people worked on this!"Bro shut the actual fuck up, damn. Also the game has been in development for 3+ years, the dev killed himself apparently.
>>568563018are you implying he doesn't already have millions upon millions to fund it?
>>568563127I'm thinking an open world, 3D version of RW with AA budget, written by professional programmers and made with professional artists.
I'm thinking about boiling some potatoes
>>568563215So he's remaking Kenshi but with money, hopefully he hurries and gets it out before the 2035 release of Kenshi 2
how's the agdg guy who was making a rimworldlike who was making a kenshilike doing
>>568563435You'll have to specify, there are like 5 different people making a rimworld clone right now.
Damn you guys fucking sucks lmao
>>568563435He tried to get Claude to help him and Claude put the cart 5 leagues in front of the horse and the technical debt crushed him to death
>>568563329I had Project Zomboid in mind.>568563629brown shartykid can't spell geg
>>568562662sales disagree. it is for everyone, except chuds who see gayness in everything(because they are repressed gays).
>>568563674Honestly PZ is really good, I'm glad they made it and I'm glad nobody can pretend to imitate it. What someone should be doing is mining 7DTD and making a game that removes all TFP's retarded and ass-bnackwards decisions. Literally if you released like, 2018-era 7DTD right now or next year you could retire on it, that's how bad 7DTD has gotten and that's how hungry people are for a mainline fix and not just mods.
>>568563737Ru Paul's drag race is one of the biggest shows for normgroids while still being an abjectly gay and trans thing. RPDR objectively ISN'T for everyone, just like Hades isn't, but it doesn't mean the consumer pools won't cross pollinate.
>>568563865I didn't see a single gay thing in my hades playthrough. it might be there, so I concede that, but I didn't see it.
>>568564035There are explicitly gay characters which isn't a huge thing don't get me wrong, I am not saying it's forced or DEI or whatever. But the characters are very, very gay. The non-game parts feel and look like a long night at a lesbian bar.
>>568564142I've never seen a lesbian bar so idk what that would look like. it just looked like fantasy/greek/art deco or something
>>568564332That's fair, I just mean that it feels like a "gathering of the gays," and the devs do say that it's intentional. Because it's "their world" and not your circle it probably does feel new or unique or culturally agnostic, but the cast is basically a theater troupe on a bar crawl. The game part is whatever, but there's an entrire visual novel tacked on.
>>568564591I think I skipped the visual novel part. I only gained affinity with charon.
>>568563105I have no idea about the game posted because it looks like trash (presumably not my genre) so I have no desire to research itI'm just criticizing that one troll that claims just about every game is AI regardless of how involved it is
>>568564774Lol, you can't really skip it. The game forces you through the novel parts. You might have mashed the dialog forward button, but the game carries Zagreus (and then Melinoë) through an explicitly queer character arc in a story and world filled with only queer characters. I'm not saying that to make fun of you, that is the explicit intent of the game. Closing your eyes and pretending the gays aren't there is probably the funniest way to play Hades tbqh.
>>568564823>regardless of how involved it isThat phrase is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. Codex and Claude Code have probably made and shipped more games at this point than all of humanity combined in the history of video games, but people insist that they aren't AI games because something something I edited Gemini's tileset in Aseprite. Ya, no.
>>568565076it's amazing how you can just make shit up and play pretend and people will invest in this garbagewhatever, no time for nodevs, I have assets to draw
>>568564965I didn't skip dialogue, it must have just gone way over my head if that's really the case. maybe it was subtext I couldn't get because I'm not versed in gay anything?
>>568565384https://outwritenewsmag.org/2025/05/hades-and-queer-representation/You are probably lying to save face anonymously, for some reason, like I care what gay coomer games you play, but no, it's extremely and explicitly overt. They beat you over the head with gay-gay-gay sex-sex-sex at practically every turn.
>>568565190>make shit up and play pretend and people will investThis is basically the only thing they teach at Indian universities
>>568565695I'm not denying there are gay characters. but please explain zagreus queer character arc. I thought he was just trying to fight his dad and find his mom
Is it even worth making games until Jai is out?
>>568566283gora
>>568566063Idek what to tell you dude, you had to have played the game blind and deaf? Zagreous just IS gay, or bisexual if we're being specific, and is explicitly in a gay throuple. The story REVOLVES around this so I honestly have no clue how you got to this point where you're familiar enough with Hades to recall it, but somehow blocked out the gay stuff, which is the main driver of the story. Like there practically is nothing else other than the father killing thing which is just basic Greek mythology. You had to be invested in the gay shit for Hades to feel novel because the story is every Greek myth ever and no new ground is broken there, only in the gayness parts, so this is really confusing for someone to claim that they were blindsided.
>>568566398>throupletranny word
>>568566502Uh, yeah? Tranny game, buddy.
>>568566398>dek what to tell you dudesimply tell me how the gay stuff is the driver of the story. what about his dad and mom was gay stuff?
>>568566283Yes, you can just port them to Jai after it comes out.
>>568566918So just to clear the air here, you're asking me to interpret a game YOU played? Why are you just not interpreting it for yourself? Zagreus being a gay cuck is literally the core identity of Hades. If you need to know how the parent thing ties into Zagreus getting buttfucked by Thanatos and then sitting in the cuck chair while he does Meg the answer is Zagreus hates that his dad is conservative. I am actually flabberghasted and just don't believe this went over someone's head.
>>568563792>Honestly PZ is really goodextremely flawed game imothe whole infection mechanic conflicts with the long term skill grind progression of the game
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>>568567243True and real. There are entire factions of players who are dedicated to playing PZ like the Sims which is actually fucking awesome lmao.
>>568567237you said>They beat you over the head with gay-gay-gay sex-sex-sex at practically every turn.>explicitly queer arc yet this is clearly not the case, implicit is not explicit. maybe YOU are misremembering how little the game gives you if you do not do sidequests.
>>568567596No, I'm not. The crux of the game is the House of Hadees suffering under a very conservative lord, and his gay cuck son just does enough gay shit to reverse course. I would also like to point out that you have to retreat to "well, I didn't play huge parts of the game," which is interesting. But no, it's not locked in side content, it is the core part of the game. Meg is a Fury sent to stop Zagreus, Thanatos is death, and they resolve the waning House of Hades by being in a gay cuck throuple. Like I'm not even trolling, this is something the DEVS will tell you. Idk if you're just in denial because you liked a pride game, but you're literally just not engaging with the game's core identity at this point.
>>568567839I'm trying to find facts about this. I'm completely open to being wrong, misremembering etc. I'm fairly sure you are gaslighting me though as my research is indicating it's not as you describe.
>>568568173Dude this is insane. I am NOT trolling you, I even went and opened the game back up, reread the forums, the story, all of it. The game's central theme is: the gay throuple saves the day from conservative stewardship. The relationships are so central to the story that a discussion that omits them is simply not a discussion about Hades. I mean by all means, replay the game and examine it in earnest, it is explicitly a queer game about a queer identity. I am not "just saying" this, the devs intended this.
>>568568372lying nigger Where anon is Highly Hyperbolic and IncorrectWhile anon is right that the queer elements exist, his description of how they function in the game is highly exaggerated and colored by aggressive, culture-war internet slang. "Sex-Sex-Sex at Practically Every Turn": This is factually incorrect. Hades has no explicit sexual content. The romances are written as slow-burn, emotional dramas[3]. When a romantic relationship is finally consummated, the screen simply fades to black with some suggestive dialogue. It is a far cry from "beating you over the head" with explicit content. "Conservative Stewardship": Bob framing the plot as Zagreus fighting his dad because his dad is "conservative" is anachronistic. Lord Hades is a rigid, overworked mythological bureaucrat bound by the laws of the Fates. The resolution of their conflict involves mutual understanding and compromise[1], not a political victory over "conservatism." "The Gay Throuple Saves the Day": This is a complete mischaracterization of the ending. The "throuple" (if the player even pursues it) has no bearing on the main resolution of the plot, which involves bringing Persephone back to the Underworld and hosting a feast to reconcile with the Olympian gods[4].
