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Defeatist Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>568497740
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>>568543182
This patch sucks so bad its unreal
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>>568543182
Is this rape?

>>568543278
Why?
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>>568543142

The fuck is that a 3v3 mode?
How does it play out?
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Why are you guys so mean to Indian players?
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>>568543296
Artificially privileges specific heroes over others, and half the cast sucks at this patch which causes stomps and you can tell exactly who is gonna win based solely on team comp at 0:00
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here cums the lash
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People in ascendant are anti-fun
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>>568543332
it is just timmycels lashing out at their superiors
unluckily for the fools they are becoming digital dalit in the new indian century
JAI HIND
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>>568543296
Whichever team gets the best AOEslop wins every urn fight, which wins them the game
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Finally made it to Arcanist...oh god the game is gonna give me nothing but feeder teammates and send me back down to Seeker isn't it?
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who did you banned this patch when you queue?
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>>568543610
I stopped banning. It just makes my queues longer and my matches worse
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>>568543610
>>568543703
In my experience banning a hero puts a onetrick of that character as my enemy laner and I get my anus gaped and raped, so I don't ban anybody
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>>568543561
That literally happened to me and the very next game the game gave me a 0 18 0 Seven and then a Lash with 8k damage (who did not dc) and it just snowballed from there
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>>568543610
Pocket because I don't want him on my team or the enemy team.
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>>568543561
>>568543789
I just had this
>Get to ritualist 1
>My lanemate is a Vyper that literally never slides, he just expends his ammo instantly then goes for a heavy melee, gets parried, and killed instantly. He does this AGAIN 2 more times and I fuck off to break boxes. Guy goes 0/18 and has 9k player damage over the course of 30 minutes
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God made werewolf women for human men
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counterspell should heal for 50% of the potential spell damage blocked, not a static 150
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Counterspell should stun whatever spiritfag used their AOEslop ability
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Sex with Venator
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Metal Skin should disarm anyone who shoots it
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counterspell should work like anti-mage's counterspell where it reflects the effect back to the caster but unironically
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>>568544380
Calm down Mina!
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>>568536468
I'm not saying this to be mean, but this is an unironic skill issue.
They're not actually that hard. Play more Sinclair, it'll click and you'll never go back.
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>>568544419
Based. Make spiritfags really feel what getting parried is like.
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>>568543332
Have you seen how they act?
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How did a few stupid modders get Roshan right nearly immediately and yet these experienced devs that make a gorillion dollars can't figure out how to balance their stupid faggot urn
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>>568544956
Too much movement

Also Roshan was way too powerful early on
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>>568544419
Lotus orb? 6400 soul green item
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Woah so by default when someone shouts nigger in mic it gets censored? Technology is crazy
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>>568544956
There is no urn equivalent in other ASSFAGGOTS.
Midboss is Roshan and they eventually got it right albeit needs a bit more tuning with rejuv.
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>Buy Rebuttal
>Repeatedly dive onto teammates who get stunned to proc it when the enemy tries to heavy melee
>Steal their unsecured souls after they die

I can do lots of things
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You guys are not ready for when they make Return Fire a 6400 item that reflects 100% of bullet and spirit damage back (this August)
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Apollo is good.
When you pick Apollo you are placed in a secret pool and get down syndrome retards in your team.
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>>568545325
>There is no urn equivalent in other ASSFAGGOTS.
The gold fury
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>>568545361
Return Fire used to be amazing you'd pop it when a Haze was Bullet Dancing and she'd melt
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make return fire instakill anyone attacking you
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>>568545401
Thats just another boss monster
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>>568545683
They both provide money, experience, and permanent stacking buffs
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you don't understand, when the devs do something that is immediately and obviously retarded they just had no way of knowing! you can't expect the dev team to think 2 seconds into the future! there was just no way to know that having urn in mid was a bad idea, just no way of knowing until they got feedback.

btw I'm on the dev team and I hope you are looking forward to the new 5 second curse haze will get when she gets 10 fixation stacks on a target. super excited to see how this plays out, who knows what'll happen! please give us your feedback
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>>568545921
Its an experiment bwo ignore the fact the devs want you to complain its an alpha a pre test d
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so torment pulse just sucks ass outside of mo/abrams right?
testing out shiv builds and I got 8k spirit investment (and fleetfoot), 5s of torment pulse + shooting is about 850 on the dummy
but if I just take what I spent on torment pulse to buy other gun items and get 4.6k, 5s of shooting is a slightly better 857, and this is on shiv who has a pretty meh gun and uses 1600 items which are way better for tempo (mystic shot in particular which is the savior of many lane matchups) and gives me any benefit at all outside of point blank
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>enemy team has a rem
>is paired with a serial rapist who can 1v6 and thus easily 1v2 while rem goes on a robbery spree
>I play rem
>paired with someone who is so constantly at low health that I can't even leave to snag an extra box or two, let alone sinners, or we immediately lose the lane
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I think comeback mechanics that force long term team fights are fundamentally flawed
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I just lost to a support Vindicta. Is it even possible to win games as a support I play Rem and I get the biggest morons I have ever seen.

>>568546448
Literally me
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>>568546358
torment pulse builds rage on shiv which is what makes it really good, just existing near people keeps your rage up it helps a lot with rage
it also applies things like healbane
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>>568543332
why are you so obsessed with indians that you've posted this three times now
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>add doorman and silver to the pick so I won't ever find a match
>instantly get a game as silver
fuck my life
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>>568546358
Torment pulse is a combo item, bought only together with EE

Same deal with tankbuster and reverb, only ever buy these items together and never individually
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>>568546493
Yes, but you need the right mentality. You can't win if you don't give your randos a chance. I'm sure you've been in the position of going 1/8 in the first 15 minutes and bouncing back in the midgame.
I got absolutely buttblasted by a support Dynamo (yes almost zero damage items) who just kept juicing up and saving this monster of a Silver every fight. There was quite literally nothing we could do.
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>>568546463
>comeback mechanic where you have to wipe the entire ahead enemy team in 20 seconds
i don't understand....why isnt this working???
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Just add another objective already yoshit what the fuck
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>>568547186
I asked ChatGPT what new objectives they should add.
>A spectral supply train periodically moves through one side of the map on elevated rails.
>Three power substations spawn around the map. Capturing one grants localized bonuses
>Neutral Monster That Pushes a Lane. You kill a powerful neutral “Siegeborn” creature and it: marches down a selected lane,
>Information / Vision Objective
I like #1 and #4 the most. This game needs recon panels like the one in Apex where it reveals players for a time, that's your "wards" in an assfaggot game.
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Was there really anything that wrong with the urn before the changes? I thought it was a fine mechanic.
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>>568547186
new objective, insert the urn into silver's hairy gaping asshole
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>>568547583
I think not enough players did it
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>>568547583
it was just as retarded as far as balance goes
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>>568547583
a lot of people just ignored it, possibly out of fear of missing the next teamfight happening somewhere else on the map
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who buys glass cannon other than venator?
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>>568547568
>>568547186
Add some special electric towers on the rooftops that periodically pulse and reveal players not inside a building/underground around it

Add an underground objective like some special spawning mob that if you secure will let you supercharge a zipline for a few couple second allowing creeps and heroes to speed up on it keeping a lane pushed
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>>568547743
Warden sometimes.
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>>568547583
No one did it, but that's mostly because
>movementless players
>majority of the players 95% didn't know how OP urn was before they made it easier to access and now that they ran it they realized how OP it is
If they revert it to what it was before, but add movement changes if you're carrying urn. People should still run it.
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I'm done playing this game till they revert this retarded urn change.
This game has too much AOE slop and retarded area denial ults that last for half an hour for this type of fucking objective.
>Victor/Graves/Mcginnis/Seven/dynamo/Pocket doing the exact same shit EVERY fucking game, god forbid you play a character that isn't one of those.
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>>568547892
you're a real maverick
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Finally some juicy pro league drama. Will this finally be the thing that makes yoshi remove the urn for good? fuck this retarded tranny objective
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>>568547743
paradox back in my day
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I think the comeback mechanic should just be a special boss that spawns close to the enemy teams jungle
Like make the bear or bull come to life

Meanwhile the urn can stay but just keep it as a more minor objective that isnt as much of a swing as it is now
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>>568547743
Pocket can, but it's a pretty bad item I think. HP is so useful and you can almost never instantly kill people so burst gun is useless. Consistent DPS is better
>>568547583
It was boring so low ranks didnt do it and dunking was non interactive
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>>568547892
Victor graves and mcginnis are so cancer to fight on the urn, they can be the biggest gorillas ever and the one counter to them (kiting) just doesnt work because theyll get the urn. Such a stupid monkey objective what were they thinking
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>>568547779
They should add an underground subway that goes from sidelane to sidelane. Why does Deadlock's new york not have a subway? That's iconic.
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COMEBACK OBJECTIVES ARE A MEME
THE COMEBACK IS PLAYERS KILLING A FARMED UP HERO

THE OBJECTIVES SHOULD EXIST TO FACILITATE TONS OF UNIDEAL MACRO AND SCENARIOS THAT GIVE THE LOSING TEAM THE OPPORTUNITY TO OUTMANEUVER FARMED UP TEAMS
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>>568548456
shut up faggot, you would be in here typing in all capslock about how "THIS EARLYGAME SLOP META IS FUCKING RETARDED. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WIN A GAME WHEN THE CALICO APOLLO LANE RAPES ME IN THE FIRST 10 MINUTES AND BLAHBLAHALBALHALBLAH"
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Silver buffs when?
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>>568547568
>>Neutral Monster That Pushes a Lane. You kill a powerful neutral “Siegeborn” creature and it: marches down a selected lane,
Come on sloppa... you know where you got that from.
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I dont know why people say boundless is bad on shiv, I tested rage generation in the sandbox with and without it and basically the same amount of knives and dashes trigger rage
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>>568545361
>enchanter's emblem upgrades into witchmail
>battle vest upgrades into wpn damage equivalent of witchmail
>return fire upgrades into 100% reflect armor
>all 3 6400s are components for secret shop item which also turns debuffs into buffs and reflects back all forms of cc
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>>568543182
vyperfags this is the reality of your "waifu"
https://youtu.be/YsJfv_dHMJs?t=760
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>>568549490
Because it is. So much opportunity cost. At best buy improved spirit
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>>568549490
>with and without it and basically the same amount of knives and dashes trigger rage
this is why it's bad, you can buy a bunch of t4 spirit items that either help your damage in ways besides raw spirit power (escalating, reverb, artic, scourge, tcd) which will lead to similar damage without cucking your rage gen or buy t4 items to become tanky as fuck and do more total damage because you aren't dead
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>>568548456
okay then fix the matchmaking
...
no? not going to do that? then give me a fucking comeback mechanic that unlike the urn is actually feasible for the team being shoved in the garbage disposal.
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>>568549838
do american police really have nothing better to do with their time and money than hunt down broke 33 year old women for missing a front license plate?
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>>568549838
>turns gas station into a battlefield
>she drives around and bumps a car a little bit
kill yourself for posting this garbage vid, you even linked the end like a mongoloid, actual monkey
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Witchmail, Cooldown reduction and Mystical reverb on shiv. Its genuienly so peak. Literally 100hp dashing through one enemy almost instantly lets you dash again and heal up. Feels so gud.
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>>568551503
>Witchmail, Cooldown reduction and Mystical reverb
This goes for spirit Victor too
>Literally just stand there and get your ult AGAIN
>Heal for your entire healthbar with a pain battery
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>NA players use actual strategy
>EU players use bug abuses
lol
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>realized only mid game that you can explode your bells by shooting at them
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>>568551912
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>>568551907
its an intended game mechanic bro they literally talked about this strategy in the boardroom bro its intended bro
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>>568551967
Yeah adding it as a grey text somewhere in the ass instead of in the text of ability, where it actually explains its' behavior is a good idea.
I was wondering how they just walk out of it when I always get assfucked by these bells.
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Pausing right before the enemy team loses the game in order to trashtalk should be a bannable offense

Had a game last night where after all 6 of us were dead and our second stage patron was being destroyed the enemy team decided to use all of their pauses to trash talk for about 5 minutes straight. As soon as one pause was unpaused by us another on their team paused and continued the torture.

It wasn't a tac pause. It wasn't a pause before a final fight. It was a pause JUST to trash talk and waste the time of 6 random people on the internet AFTER the game was already over but before the patron had died, trapping us in the game if we didn't choose to abandon but wanted to play another.

Our McGinnis actually dced, and then came back a few mins later and it was still pause locked with trash talking.

This needs to be a bannable offense.
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>>568552958
UOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>568552958
Be happy it's not like dota where fags would pause when they get a kill to send a question mark and act like they did some big play
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>>568552958
>losing with mcginnis and graves on team
deserved all of the pause trashtalk
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nothing more infuriating than being blamed for shit when your end game stats are the best out of the whole team
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>>568553043
>I do this already
do you hate me, Anon?
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>>568553241
?
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cheat death doorman is the most retarded grade A bullshit i've ever seen just delete this hero already please
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>>568553468
They're currently begging for the door to be insta closed again so doorfags can be even more unkillable
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>>568552958
>Pedo is mentally weak and can't handle banter
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Imagine using the urn as a fleshlight
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>>568549838
>>568550569
>>568550853
>Druggie with a warrant and a previous history of resisting and evading police is swerving on the road and endangering others, crashes into cars and a gas pump like a maniac, and then tries to hide her contraband under some poor fuck's porch
>"Buh she dindu nuffin"
Now I might've agreed with you if she was a cute snake or something, but you guys are something else.
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what does chud mean and why is it repeated constantly in this game? I thought it was for redditors to call republicans or something like that
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>>568552958
This should happen every game as there's no post game chat.
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>>568554080
Maybe if the urn was a cute girl
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typing "gg ez" when you got hardcarried or winning a 6v5 is one of lifes simple pleasures
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>>568554251
>druggie
>resisting and evading police
>endangering amerikkans
i dont see the problem
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>>568554264
its a safe-edgy bm word for the modern zoomer goycattle who want to feel like they're rebelling the system without actually rebelling the system, more examples like safe edgy other than ''chud'' are:
>netanyahu
>israeli
>pedo
>hitler
>mossad
>epstein
you will see these spammed in the in-game chat constantly by ''people'' who are no older than 20 and base their life around twitter and tiktok
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>huge losing streak
>win 1
>immediately get a literal thrower on a smurf account the next 3 g ames in a row on my team
>against a prostreamer e6 duo queue
ill just kill myself
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Hopping between people as rem in the team fight and just throwing anvils at vindicta and silencing celeste players is such a great feeling
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>>568554518
Their whole vocabulary is built around avoiding censorship filters in order to not get banned and canceled on social media. It's honestly kind of sad.
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>rem only heavy melees
>dies 4 times in lane
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>>568554518
I use mossad and epstein sometimes but also kike and nigger, we may scoff at anti-censorship slurs but half the reason I'm on 4chan is because this is among the last places you can speak your mind somewhat
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>>568554453
Based knower.
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>>568554453
But that's rude...
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>>568555008
what does he know
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>>568554453
i always type gg close game when my team is shitstomped
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>>568555128
Rem
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>>568554703
every time i see a rem player start burgerboxing all i can think of are those really aggresive chihuahuas that act like they can't be punted into the sun by a light breeze
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trooper soul orbs should fall to the ground, and can only be claimed with heavy melee
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patron should only be damaged with heavy melees
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Introducing: Medium melee
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>>568546578
he is indian and currently in his "desperate pleas for acceptance" swing mood.
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>>568551967
Not that anon but this is my Steam PFP, Guess my rank.
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Introducing: Light Parries and Heavy Parries
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Introducing:
Quantum melee
Schrodinger's parry
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>>568556402
Nutty professor hands typed this post
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>lowest winrate
>lowest pickrate
>not a single change made to this character in 2026
>like 1 pick and 0 bans in last nightshift lol, not even that good in draft
Haha, devs are probably preparing a rework. Just have to wait like 3 to 5 fucking months until the next major update!!!
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>>568556561
Sinclair is fine the way they are.
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epic holliday nerf
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Why is Metro, the best Deadlock player in the world, not playing in the tournaments? Are the organizers scared of inviting him because he would dominate too hard?
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>>568555128
All the heroes i main arent in these games :(
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>>568555128
what makes leviathan THAT good?
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>playing graves into a team with AOE and tanks
Genuinely miserable, had several zombies do nothing to shiv and billy cause we were a little behind, it's fine i can accept that part but paige/dyanmo/paradox throwing their shit and killing all my summons is suicide inducing, genuinely nothing you can do at that point.
>>568552958
>This needs to be a bannable offense
It is, it's called chat vc abuse gravesbro
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>>568555128
>not a single graves pick
Damn
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>>568556968
He's the king of Deadlock for a reason brochacho
Nobody fucks with THE KING
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>Vyper on my team
>Literally never slides
>Dies 22 times
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>>568557918
same except all they do is slide
into their deaths
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This was my last deadlock game for a while.

Yamato died 5 times, ragequit on minute 10.
Abrams quit 5 minutes later.
Turtled up and won 4v6
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Uh oh, Russians are mad
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>>568559214
>team with mcginnis and graves losing to a team with silver and 2 leavers
What the fuck is happening down there in archon
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Hmmm, which hero to put into my feeding dungeon... Decisions decisions.
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>>568559314
What's the drama about this time?
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>>568559332
Silver is S++ tier so of course she won just look at her contribution
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>>568559461
Urn abuse
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>>568559406
vyper
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If someone abandons their networth should be divided amongst the remaining players.
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>>568559570
I was thinking Mina but alright. Bring out the funnel.
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>>568559332
100% won only because of bonus souls that we get instead of leavers.
That was 30th game on Paige. Now it's time to play Poo 2. See you guys in a couple weeks.
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>>568559548
I mean he bought relic, I can respect the fact he realised he was a useless feeding piece of shit and would have more value as a curse bot.
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>>568543332
if their god loved them they wouldnt have been born indian
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>>568559551
What kind of abuse?
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>>568560554
https://x.com/deadlock_8/status/2059877555017076847?s=46
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>>568559314
This sort of faggotry lol
>UGH, WE WOULD DO THE SAME, BUT WE'RE JUST TARGETED FOR NO REASON.. UGH.. WHATEVZ

https://youtu.be/FCL50u8DgSQ
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When are they adding illusion heroes and micro heroes
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>>568559314
Okay but none of this is actual bug abuse or anything. Just using the mechanics for your advantage
Cry at yoshi for making the new urn retarded. Anyone with a braincell would have been able to guess that someone would abuse it in pro play, develop a counter-plan or STFU
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>>568555128
>greater expansion on shiv
wtf???
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>>568561593
Do you use 4 as a finisher or an escape tool on shiv?
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it's not an exploit because i said so. and that's final.
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>>568561672
Both
>YER DEAD!
>Kills a guy
>I TRIED TO BE NICE!
>Runs away
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>>568561672
the latter if caught and as a gap closer for a big dash to shred spirit res most of the time...using it as a finisher comes last for a crucial target with high sustain if necessary
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>>568561672
You can also use it as a rage builder on all in engages early on. It deals flat 200 damage. That's pretty chunky damage for early.
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>>568543332
SAAR
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>>568559314
>abuse bug
>cry when you get punished
Nigger behaviour
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I need to train my twitter feed to give me more Deadlock drama. It's all R18 anime artists and shit.
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>>568562951
>I need to taint Eden with garbage
Okay satan
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>>568562951
Mine's full of HMOFA porn but I get a giggle when deadlock drama comes up from time to time.
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>>568563130
Gotta mix it up. The algo knows I only look at and follow godlike artists, even recommends me niche artists with ~5k followers and default ? profile. So I'm delayed when it comes to Deadlock news and /dlg/ is unreliable on this shit.
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I'm seeker btw
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Seeking my cock
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I hope they keep Graves meta forever.
I love seeing redditors seethe
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Just remove urn at this point
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nah babe
i'm laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash
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Deadlock esports are unrecoverable after last night. Its over.
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Shiv x Vindicta is a very underrated ship
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>Rem tagalong brings me from 100 health to 2k
I LOVE MY NIGGA REM!
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is Graves a magical girl?
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>>568564091
It was already retarded having esports for a closed alpha game. Just like all the retarded aspiring ecelebs making Deadlock guides that are rendered outdated every three months (I guess it keeps the slop content mill going).
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>>568564117
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>>568564376
>every three months
More like every two weeks
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We are making it so that you can only kill players and objectives with a heavy melee, any other form of attack simply brings them to 1 HP, but if you get parried while trying to do so you instantly die. You like?
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>>568543182
>erm the urn is a super good comeback mechanic you should always run urn
>primary usage in competitive play is a one sided snowball
uhuh
Great comeback mechanic where its comeback state is either used by already winning teams to force a 100% ensured team wipe, or now it's literally broken and can give winning teams a perma 35% resist.

Great designers, even if they revert it's just dogshit but slightly differently.

>>568564091
Anyone that thought Deadlock was a viable eSport is a DOTA shill and trying to extrapolate, rather than seeing things as they are.
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>>568564117
did they get rid of the voice lines talking about Shiv having a kid?
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>In practically every single game that I'm in, my team lets walkers die to waves to get this fucking urn, and flames me if I go clear waves or splitpush a walker instead of playing urnslop
Remove the urn holy shit
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>>568564091
it's fine, though whoever was sperging out needs to get banned because that shit is fucking poison
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>>568564807
My favorite part of the urn is that it forces every game to play the same, and if it affects the meta it's for some unbelievably toxic noninteractive slop.

Reinstalling League of Legends, fuck this shit man.
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>>568564710
yep
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>>568564807
everyone should go to the urn but these retards don't realize they need to shove waves and not farm jungle/boxes before
deadlocks playerbase has the worst moba IQ ever
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>>568565157
The third person perspective acts as an IQ debuff so vile my lane partner literally walks INTO the Guardian only to die, respawn, and repeat the same process and disconnect.

Game's dogshit even for reasons outside of the developer's control.
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>>568564807
And they're right. The urn is more valuable than walker. Walker only starts looking juicy once you're all slot locked. If we're talking first 3 to 4 urns, you should definitely join them.
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>>568564979
>Pocket and Shiv have the same VA
>Pocket is completely forgettable, voice sounds generic
>Practically everything Shiv says is meme material
What gives?
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gg ez bots
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I don't like Shiv. His hair looks like a turd.
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>>568565280
you're just a coping polschizo
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Sex with Shiv
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>>568565272
>urn is slightly more valuable than the walker in souls early to mid game
>get urn but troopers will be passively pushed in because of the lack of tower defense
>literally increasing the chance of getting slot locked later on so your late scalers are stuck with their pants down and dick out
>yeah but the urn though
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street brawl > urnslop
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the medic trooper heal orb should be claimable by either team with a heavy melee but 100% unironically
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>>56856547
>>literally increasing the chance of getting slot locked later on so your late scalers are stuck with their pants down and dick out
I don't play in the elo where nobody knows what to do with the lead they got from urn, sucks to be you.
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ever since the urn change laning has way more punches and parries it feels like these retards just discovered the mechanic
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>>568565643
>more meleeslop will fix the game
nah
anyway, I think the 3 minute timer on boxes spawning helped out lanes a lot
I'd even raise it past that but whatever, I fucking hated what "laning" (aka downtime between box runs) had turned into
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>>568565687
we seekergawds have always been heavy meleeing each other in lane though
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>>568545369
I believe this.
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>>568563307
based
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Floormen should have done the same thing next game and really cancered it up.
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>>568565662
You get urn, enemy gets walker, what lead? lmao
If you're being generous you're neutral, if anything the walker was more valuable than the minor soul difference.
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>>568565902
it would've been extremely funny to see both sides feeding their asses off to get the comeback urn but floormen are full of whiny bitches
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Funny how I called pros would be doing this.
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>>568552958
I had a losing game last week when I was playing with a stack and the enemy team BM paused at the end of the game to talk shit and when they unpaused we used all of our pauses to keep the game stopped and the other team started raging lmao
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>>568543610
Yamato. She's just genuinely unfun to interact with and if anyone feeds her she just runs away with the fucking game because she's immune to everything.
>yeah bro you need to go find yamato and pick her off specifically before you can even attempt mid boss
wow great...
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>>568549838
>tfw live in norwich and never seen vyper around
fuck my stupid chud life
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>>568566069
Yeah the team that forfeited also knew of this strat, it just goes to show how horrible the dev team is that most people who paid attention to the patch notes realized how broken it is. Who the fuck are their playtesters?
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>>568566303
>Who the fuck are their playtesters?
pro players who want to abuse things so they intentionally don't report back on things they might abuse for money.
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>>568566303
>>568566396
The idea that Experimental is all pros is inaccurate. I've seen people as low as Archon in.
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Gravessisters...
We're getting nerfed aren't we?
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>>568566456
where the fuck is the pve update
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>>568566456
It's fine that there are noobs in there since that's the majority of playerbase but get some actual good players in there that can think
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>>568566569
idk, I'm not in experimental. I just know people that are in because they're bad at keeping secrets. Could be entirely made up. The Deadlock twitter leakers have zero sources now.
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>>568566521
>finally fix the shitty skull AI
>next patch will probably nerf their damage into the ground
never-ending cycle
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>>568566582
It's a mix.
From what I understand it's basically a Valve Friends and Family test + some of the main server mods + ecelebs and streamers.
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>>568566521
She should.
I have a friend who's performing like three ranks above his skill just playing Graves. He was just laughing over how easy it was to play her the whole game.
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>>568564117
>>568564382
I understand.
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why is there no Spirit Sap but for weapon damage?
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>>568565939
Walker death is a 40/60 split. If you got the urn, the soul would have been divided equally amongst you. This is an extremely important distinction - everyone benefited while only the guy talking the walker benefited. What you're saying only makes sense if it's literally the first urn because it only starts actually becoming worth more than the walker from the second urn forward so it's still recoverable.
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>>568566648
well spill the beans nigga
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>>568567775
>everyone benefited while only the guy talking the walker benefited
Deadlock is a game that favors one singular hyper carry over team play. If what I'm saying is false, then Metro would simply not be Eternus. I'm sorry, I see your line of logic, but it's not that kind of game.

Initial urn is valuable because walkers have resists and they'd need to expend too many units to push. But quickly as resists shred it becomes an active sacrifice that's not worth it until the urn climbs in value.
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>>568568429
I have no beans, I just know the names of a three people in the test, not much you could do with that information. Telling someone in your friends list "hey i know your in experimental give me leaks" is highkey disrespectful imo
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>>568567775
>only the guy talking the walker benefited
slot locking exists unless your build is some low tempo horse shit full of t4s
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which one of you boomers just argued with a bunch of zoomers in street brawl?
I know you're here
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>>568568621
This is exactly that kind of game. This is Deathball: The Game. A deathball where everyone is equal in souls is scarier than a deathball where only one guy is ahead in souls. If you don't play the second urn, you'll simply lose every deathball vs deathball from there on.
>>568568887
Like I said, you just deathball with your team to clear all 3 walkers later. What is the retarded splitpusher going to do? 1v6?
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>>568557793
blind retard faggot moron
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>>568564646
>give winning teams a perma 35% resist
you don't play the game. Try a new prompt
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>>568565479
>still too shitlow to realize why mcG, rem, graves are good in this patch
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>>568566582
>but get some actual good players in there that can think
Every time they do this without fucking fail.
They leak.
Almost every big name that was in the expie leaked and got kicked.
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>>568569413
Rem is good because his buffs make him a nutty character
Graves and McG are good because they THRIVE in urn meta.
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>>568569886
The smart players realize after some time that they're unpaid workers and start leaking without care. Game devs gets 6 figures to do the most retarded shit while they're stuck trying to fix it
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>>568570005
>still too stupid to put down split pushing abilities in one lane and teleport to the urn fight
ROFL shitlow
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If I was a beta tester I'd be leaking harder than when I do nofap and see Mina's killstreak and critical portaits
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>>568570160
putting down the split push abilities before urn is midwit "i'm so good at the game" type shit
actually e6 niggers just focus urn period because graves and mcguiness are some of the best characters for holding their ground in the game and DARE people to push into them.
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>>568569413
Then you aren't sacrificing walker, that's not what I'm arguing against. You aren't paying attention to the discussion and I reserve the right to call you an asshat.
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Ahem, nerf shiv.
https://litter.catbox.moe/jb2wh4wtfx57m5e5.mp4
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Nerf Yamato
Disgusting overtuned gook character that gets to teleport though walls and damage through walls
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Huge drama on Twitter about some e-sports tourney where a team all bought eggs and kept the urn for a permanent advantage
thOuGhts?????
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>>568568430
#HERO
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>>568570683
I want to use the urn as a fleshlight while he makes quips about how it's weird that I'm not carrying him to the drop off point
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>>568570683
my honest opinion
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>>568570570
does the increased damage from rebuttal work on viscous' puddle punch?
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>>568571148
yeah
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>>568554251
>vyperfag baseding out over a woman in real life owning a bong and being a bad driver
larp larp larp
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>>568570374
>>568570510
>>568565479
>cry about urn vs split push dynamic
>but the urn though
>erm but the e6 players focus on urn
HAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING SHEEP CANT THINK FOR ITSELF
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>>568571487
You're merging two different arguments into one.
Zero attention spawn, why even reply.

My point was that valuing urn over walker is stupid without additional context of its value at that timestamp. If you can defend walker, you aren't sacrificing anything and it's a different argument.
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>>568570683
that crybaby team also cried when they tried that shit and failed in last week's 10k tourney LMAO yes the patch is slop but other teams and making the most out of it
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how come skills that normally go through walls can't go through kelvin's ult?
why not just make the entire map out of kelvin ult so line of sight gets respected?
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I refuse to do urn because it incentivizes parry cheats
All parries are cheats
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>>568571612
i was replying the the retard (you) who thought that you had to pick one or the other. I listed heroes that allows you to do both via teleporter and you got TRIGGERED KEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>568565479
>>urn is slightly more valuable than the walker in souls early to mid game
It's the opposite. Walkers are more valuable in souls, but Urn quickly out paces it. Then walker for urn starts to immediately lose in soul value.
>but flex slots
they're nice but you should be getting walkers through leveraging soul advantage anyways.
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>>568571837
https://streamable.com/hahb68
Feelings on this?
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>>568571612
>get urn but troopers will be passively pushed in because of the lack of tower defense
W COPE HAHAHAHAHHAAH
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HER SMILE
>GONE
HER OPTIMISM
>GONE
HER HOPES AND DREAMS
>GONE
HER ABILITY TO FUCK
>STILL GOT IT
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>>568571837
I dont do urn because the contestation is the perfect time to push lane and objective while the chimps are all distracted with urn
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>>568571958
>not double jumping before punching your barrel
yeah that holliday messed up
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>>568572496
what they were thinking with indomitable completely killing her only useful ability
i took a 2 month break and thought they were counterspelling me but no it was a passive
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When will holliday get reworked into an M1 offcarry.
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>indomitable
>etheral shift
>briefcase
>counterspell
oh yeah it's pocket time
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>>568572724
why is the guy saying that not yoshi? you fucked up
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>>568572724
>implying silver is bad on the urn
>implying drifter is bad on the urn
>implying haze is bad on the urn
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>>568572614
I'm so glad im alchemist ii where ppl never counter buy for me, i can just buy all the purple items and do free damage with barrels and never die. Shitty part is that the rest of my team plays exactly like the enemy team
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>>568572823
>superior duration
MOM'S GONNA FREAK!
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>>568572614
indominable is just counterspell for people who cannot into counterspell
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>>568573089
half the time I forget I have it if I'm not building it literally every game.
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>>568572614
What if Linkins but it applied to skillshots XD XD XD XD XD XD
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counterspell should stun, then it becomes worthy of being bought over indominable
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>>568573373
they just need to remove indominable what are these retarded changes into making the game more braindead
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I'm e3 my friends a4 any ideas why we can't queue together even with 2 high prio and 4 heroes selected? Keeps giving us this. We tried restarting our games and making the party on either side but it still won't let us play.
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>>568573373
>>568573483
it's indomitable, dorks
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>enhanced prism blast
yep its brooling time
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>>568572896
They are
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>>568551912
Never seen Doorman played by anyone before?
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>>568573373
Indomitable costs twice as much and has a much longer cooldown.
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>>568573624
need to pick more heroes (prio dont matter here)
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>>568573373
Indominable sucks
>Instead of manually counterspelling the thing you want to counterspell, indominable instead triggers off a silence wave or some random AOEslop
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>>568569227
I'm referring to how the devs just can't design the urn. I don't know why you think people find Deadlock eSports interesting enough to watch on its own merits.
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>>568572896
Haze is not that good on the urn aside from popping unstop + curse and getting mcginnis out of the game
Something I wish my teammates realized they need to do but they never do.
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>>568574397
Haze onetricks are still living in the timeline where their ult is a 360° circle and can target multiple people hence why they try to ult the urn spot
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>Losing game
>Take urn for buffs, tell team to force a fight in midboss
>They actually follow my commands for once
>Win (we had a 40k+ soul disadvantage)
The new urn is so fucking retarded its hilarious
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>>568573729
Haze maybe is a bit more rough.
Silver is very strong when her ult goes cause people can't just run away.
Drifter feasts for free on any backliners while all the frontliners are being stupid and getting parried by eachother over and over again inside the AOE slop.
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>>568574892
You can just kill Silver
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>>568575249
>bro just like uhh kill them and then they like uhh suck?
this is true of everything and everyone
just like kill mcginnes? she sucks on urn lmao just kill her lol how is getting barraged even real
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>>568575568
Mcginnis kills you from a mile away, Silver needs to be melee range
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>>568575568
>just like kill mcginnes? she sucks on urn lmao just kill her lol how is getting barraged even real
And what you say with irony, I say with conviction
Fucking shitter
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>>568575994
every character is actually f tier cause they can be killed
incredible takes, I kneel to shithigh players
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So anons, do you think this would work?
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568543332
Reposting shit from Reddit should be grounds for an automatic 3 day vacation
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>>568576363
Mina sucks off homeless men in the backstreets of the Bronx then lets them cum inside her pussy raw & deep
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>>568574763
>comeback urn buffs literally doesn't matter when it comes to securing the urn because you all have to stand in the retard spot and get raped to death while spamming parry
>comeback urn buffs are game swinging if you just never deposit it and play the game with mega buffs from then on
What the fuck did yoshi mean by this?
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>>568545329
I will rape this shota's bussy so help me patron
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>>568576820
Anon, that's a bird that took a shit on the Statue of Liberty.
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>>568545369
>7 wins
>9 losses
>for a grand total of 9 ranks dropped
great system yoshi!
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on blood we all holding games hostage with the comeback urn resistance war banner
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>>568574763
>>568576740
I know what I'm doing the next time I get the 6 stack together
We were already using Kelvin dome to secure urns, now it's time for "throw laning phase so that we get 50% resists in 10 minutes"
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>team has dynamo + paradox while we have almost no one but lash and ivy for the aoe slop urn
>ONE URN FIGHT LOSS of Dynamo and Paradox aoe bomb slam ult massive healing slop and we're down 30k
>we lose
what were they actually thinking with this
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>new patch makes game worse than last patch
>new patch makes game worse than last patch
>new patch makes game worse than last patch
what gamedev strategy is this called
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>>568576923
and?
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>>568577109
ChatGPT vibe coding
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@grok help me rework urn, make no mistakes
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>>568577081
They weren't thinking with it, at all. The last couple of patches since Old Gods basically proved to me that Yoshi is 100% Icefrog since only Icefrog could make such awful balance choices.
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nope refuse to play with this stupid urn one of the worst changes they've literally ever done turning every game into "who has more aoe on their team wins"
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>>568577401
>guys okay we're experimenting with new urn
why didnt they like the april fools update pause MMR and rank loss at the very least? This is just gonna fuck things up and make more boosted retards on paradox fuck up the ranks now
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>>568577649
The vast majority of the changes in this game make absolutely no sense, especially since it is an open secret that there is the OTHER playtest server for Deadlock that gets to see all this retarded shit first, it somehow gets through them.
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m1ggers on suicide watch
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>>568577649
this urn would be fine if it didnt have the retarded resistances
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>>568577780
I can only assume everyone in the sekrit club are the most sycophantic yes-men around
>You sure making the urn a melee brooler boxing contest is a good idea?
>"Y-Yes Yoshi, it's sooo goooood we could even put it in mid"
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>>568574763
Someone earlier pointed out that the resistances given by the comeback Urn are about equal to buying both Bullet and Spirit Resistance for the entire team. So the value for holding the comeback Urn is about 38.4k souls. Why would anyone turn it in for 8-10k souls over just holding it?
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Just remove the fucking Urn until they know what to do with it
>muh comeback
its not a comeback mechanic it has NEVER been a comeback mechanic it has always been a snowball mechanic
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>>568576948
you shouldn't feel too bad. the lower ranks are supposed to have a lot of mobility. it slows down in ascendant/eternus.
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>>568578147
its funny because this patch is the closest urn has been to being actually good for the losing team
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>>568550569
There isn't always a murder going on. And if they don't deal with it, then who will? This is the job of the police.
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Why do we need comeback mechanics? Imagine if in real sports you received pity points just because you suck dick so much
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>>568578461
>ah fuck my team sucks OWWW OWWWW MY KNEE AHHHHH
>receive free comeback mechanic
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>>568578461
in real sports you dont gain an innate advantage by winning, tranny
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divegrass isnt a real sport
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>>568578461
real sports dont put you on a team of 5 other randos
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fell from fucking arcanist to seeker again 0 and 7 wraith on my fucking team and russians everywhere get me out of this shithole
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>>568578682
wtf even is that, a divekick spinoff?
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comeback mechanics exist because it sucks when the winning team starts playing badly and you outplay them at 25 mins but it doesnt matter because you will never catch up so then what is even the point of trying hard after losing early
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>>568578618
yes you do you fucking retard, in most sports you have a set timer and if your opponent scores a goal 10 min before it runs out, you are automatically put on a massive disadvantage. Deadlock games can go on indefinitely if your net worth is about equal
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>>568579234
wrong anon, meant this inbred retard >>568578628
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>>568578461
Imagine if in soccer the enemy team's goal became bigger every time your team scores.
Real sports don't have snowballing mechanics.
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>>568578826
some game euros made for their women to play while the men cook dinner iirc
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>>568578859
only league faggots don't want comeback mechanics. they want surrender instead so they can literally just make the entire game about the laning phase and then pivoting to immediately crying if they lose it and saying ff10.

I remember natural selection 2, it was like this asymmetrical fps/rts hybrid with commanders on each team. It involved resource nodes, base building, tech trees and had so much variety in gameplay. I remember back in the day people used to play those games out for easily 35-45m just like a moba. The last few times I've tried to check in for nostalgia it's full of faggots that literally just completely give up if they aren't raping the enemy team by 5 minutes. They hop out of the commander seat and vote surrender and people are basically forced to go along with what this pussy wants because no ones in control of the team's resources anymore. They do this indefinitely and the entire game has been reduced to the first 5 minutes of the game before anyones actually unlocked any of the cool shit. Thanks compfags. And I say that as someone competitive.
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>>568579451
Real sports don't have economies and net worths
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>>568578001
You'd think Valve would have learned the dangers of yes-men after the disaster that was Artifact. Not a single playtester dared to point out the game was simply unfun.
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>>568552958
Didn't read but Gravesy sex
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>>568574763
Did the same thing without comms, it feels so toxic bringing the urn into mid boss arena.
>what are you going to do? contest? lmao
It was their comeback urn too.
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paige swallows
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>>568579353
>receive (you)
>hopeful that I made some anon laugh or something
>get called a retard instead
too late I'm crying
OWWWW AHHHH
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>>568578461
Excellent point I think, I only half read it
I really love this werewolf though, post more of her
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I will now play your character
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>>568579451
Real sports DO have comeback mechanics, just not during a match.
In most sports the team who finishes last on the ladder gets first pick in next years player draft.
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>>568579791
i'm sowwy, it make me laugh a bit if that makes you feel any better

don't you get butt fucked by referee post game for faking an injury?
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Oh boy I love balanced matchmaking.
> Other team has four carries including Shiv, Warden, Seven and Yamato
> My team has five supports and no frontline at all
> Seven and Yamato are E1 and smurfing
> Lose in under 20 minutes
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The kemololi skin has greatly increased my Rem win rate, even if the load screen is a little fucked up.
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>>568580127
>In most sports the team who finishes last on the ladder gets first pick in next years player draft.
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>>568544956
dota doesn't have twitchy 3D movement that you can consistently shoot during
it's why the sewer alien has a laser beam instead of swiping at you
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>>568577062
buy egg instead of throwing, that way you get the comeback urn without the soul disadvantage
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What the fuck. They patched the game so McGinnis's ult freezes the urn timer even if it's not directly touching the urn, but Seven can ult right on top of it and it won't freeze. How fucking retarded are these devs? The urn freezes for Kelvin because it's physically impossible to touch it.
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>>568577858
kek
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why does she style her hair like that
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I add terrible players after games so I have something funny to spectate whenever I'm bored.
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ROT IN PERDITION
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>>568581268
Why her lips are like that?
Asians don’t have lips that huge
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buff mina you fucking niggers

She has 5th lowest winrate at 47% and still dropping while mccuck is approaching 60% wr in eternus lobbies, how is this acceptable? It's all your fault you perma seeker faggots

God forbid a hero has high potential for skill expression, all you niggers want is to win with as little effort as possible. Victor, mcginnis, seven and graves mains deserve to be skinned alive and hanged by their microdick
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>>568581509
they actually turned her into a succubus and everyone is just following along to not embarrass her
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>>568581607
fuck you you're getting aoe spam on the urn
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>>568581607
>God forbid a hero has high potential for skill expression
This has to be a ironic shitpost to make mina mains look bad
I refuse to believe someone like this actually exists.
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so, what are we still waiting on from this prediction(hallucination)?
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>>568579585
>Rushing enemy chair and then ff at minute 2 if you fail
>Losing lifeform? FF
>Phasegate gone? FF
NS2 can be a case study in why surrendering being an awfulgarbage mechanic, but on the other hand it's borderline a solved game so you can actually predict when a game is joever, idk. A unique game ruined by not getting the formula quite right, gone but not forgotten.
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>>568581268
She grew it out longer because Abrams likes to have something to hold onto when he's beating her cervix into a paste from behind
>>568581509
Dick-Sucking Lips[TM]
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They're adding Hoodwink
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New urn mechanic: Urn spawns in same spots as before but now instead of an urn its a portal that lets each team send one player to 1v1 in midboss style arena seperate from the main map. Winning team can only send their lowest soul contributing player.

After 30 seconds of the first person entering the arena the urn will drop down from the middle of the arena and can be claimed with 5 heavy melees. The team to get the last hit gets the urn as if it was delivered.
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>>568581996
sex
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>>568582075
NS1 was more fun anyways
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>>568581996
i cant believe she looks like THAT yet she only fucks dogs, pocket leaving really did a number on her mental health
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>>568578151
Thats not the point.
Why do losses count for more than wins especially when games don't revolve solely on one player?
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>>568579585
>natural selection
based.
>current ns
cringe.
>>568582075
there's ways to accelerate a game without surrendering, like buying a midas and jungling until your team wakes up or your throne is gone.
>>568582512
>ns1
more based.

I only bought 2 because of how much fun I had with 1, even though I was done playing it by the time it came out. it was giving me carpal tunnel. flying ivy is like a lerk.
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holy shit Deadlock is free on Epic this week!
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>>568579585
>only league faggots don't want comeback mechanics
I like how with DOTA fags League is simultaneously every game design decision at the same time. It's too casualized and passive comeback mechanics are too strong yet its actually acshually one sided and there's no comeback potential (but somehow last 40 minutes). It's almost as if most these people either don't play the game or last played it 1999.

That being said people complaining about comeback mechanics are self reporting they're meta abusing 58% winrate characters and just want the game to be determined at minute 10.
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>>568581607
>Mina
>High skill expression
>Press 2 to avoid all damage and teleport across an entire lane
>Press 4 to get a free kill every minute
>Press 1 to clear entire waves/creep camps and heal for like a third of your health
>Shoot people to... do even more damage

She's super easy to play, dude.
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>>568583965
>Press 4 to get a free kill every minute
initiateDEITY....
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>>568583965
nta but I can't do shit with her because I can't aim
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>>568584568
Her gun is really easy to aim, it has extremely high velocity. If you have issues still, just buy opening rounds since it's a ridiculously OP item now.

You can also just shoot people from the flanks since your mobility is stupid high.
>>568584482
Her ult is ridiculously strong and impossible to fuck up.
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any good fanfics out there?
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>>568584839
the ones I write
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>>568580935
probably just an oversight?
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>>568585283
We prefer to the term "experimental feature" :-)
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new player here, are animation delays for parrying a bug? I literally got parried by an enemy and it showed the blue thing first before their character put their arms up to "block"
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>>568583965
>t.
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>>568585961
You are in a parry state at frame zero of pressing F.
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>>568585961
If the blue barrier is up, the parry is already active, the animation doesn't matter because characters do it at different speeds
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any girls wanna play with me, im trans
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>>568586098
I main doorman btw idk if it matters haha
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>>568546358
apollo also picks it up
I get it on holliday sometimes. torment pulse + scourge + EE turns lasso into a guaranteed kill on anyone (that doesn't debuff res)
it's a really efficient damage item that benefits the best DPS item in the game, EE. it's balanced by requiring you to be in make out range
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>>568580935
mcginnis freezes the urn timer? couldn't replicate it in testing
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>>568586019
>if you are good enough at the game to recognize a braindead OP character, you must be low rank

Great logic
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>>568586643
It's the mark of the metaslave
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>>568586782
I am thankfully not a metaslave, I do happen to like playing Dynamo though.
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>>568586890
A likely story
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>>568586643
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>>568579948
https://youtu.be/La8uIZK90RA
Take a look at an actually good remodel mod.
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there are people that unironically think Graves is still bad.
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>>568587379
>Make her abilities actually function correctly
>S+ tier
So this was her intended power level from the start
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>>568586997
My most played characters are Dynamo, Venator, Bebop, Sinclair, Seven, and Viscous.
>>568587006
It is a well known fact that winrate doesn't always mean everything, especially with coomer characters like Mina that attract horrible players that tank their winrate.
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>>568566764
cut out the ecelebs + streamers invite random e6+ players with lot's of hours and a wide hero pool that don't play for money.
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>>568588308
so is the character easy and op, or not?
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>>568587208
genuinely ugly
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>>568588489
Regardless of how easy a character is to play, you will always have retards in these games that can't do it.
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>>568587623
And it's so fucking anoying, just rework her please.
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Can someone explain to me why I see people spam parry when they counterspell something, I do actually see the counterspell animation trigger multiple times but does it also really block spells for longer if you continuously spam counterspell parry?
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>>568587379
reminds me of being flamed for picking veno when he had a 60% winrate
or a medusa that dropped all her items after dying solo because I was techies
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>>568587623
>Make a character that quite literally plays the game for you, outside of moving around the map
>Make all of her abilities way too powerful
>She wins the game for free now

>>568588753
I believe counterspell triggers multiple times if you get hit by more spells during the actual counterspell animation, but it doesn't heal/buff you multiple times.
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Parry on left shift, think about it.
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>>568588753
If they're mashing parry it'll just come out again instantly because successfully countering resets parry
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Kensu is a dumb nigger!
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>>568588942
I gave it on mouse wheel down
I also put ability 3 on F
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>>568582170
...in Ricochet 2
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>>568588753
no, it just lingers like that
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it's funny how hard urn mindbreaks people
>team gets comeback urn
>someone decides to hold it until the rejuv spawns
>meanwhile we lose guardians, shrines and patron because the rest of the team was getting raped in a 5v6 while already behind
>also they just take the rejuv for free obviously
>"but bro the 35% resist urn"
high asc/low eternus btw
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>>568589004
I know, but is it purely visual or is the counterspell bubble really there to block more spells
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spirit or gun victor rn
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this is what i mean, i compared pressing it only once to spamming it, and the period i take no damage from the barrage is the exact same
but I see like every pro still spam F so I think im just missing something here
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>>568589582
It won't block more spells, it's just a regular parry after the first one
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>>568587379
She is only that high because of the urn changes, if they reverted the urn she would go back to (mostly) her pre-patch stats
But when you have 12 people fighting under a bridge, spawning a shitload of skulls and zombies adds way too much chaos for people to keep up
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Me when i lose urn
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>>568590067
they fell for a mass placebo hysteria
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>>568554513
>Eurotranny is a fent head
St. Floyd bless you.
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>>568590602
uhhh what status effect is this
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>>568590914
slowing sex
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>>568590914
Slowing hex with a fat ass
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>>568589619
spirit
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>>568587623
It's not even the skulls, it's the ghouls.
Max level grasping hands + echo shard + borrowed decree instantly summons 6 ghouls inside a personal fortress that's just too dangerous to approach.
Evening a middling investment in spirit will cause those ghouls to do a bit over 300ish damage so that's 2k damage she just sent marching down the lane.
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dlg is dead
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>>568591439
I'm only street brooling
I'm not playing with this urn
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>>568591439
one of the worst patches we had
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Got my first MVP as Billy.
Je-SUS does he snowball quickly if fed early on.
By midgame I felt unkillable
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>>568589501
This is why people shouldn't obsess over meta tournament level strats and opinions because it doesnt matter for 95% of games. scrubs are just gonna try to copy them without understand why things are the way they are.
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how do people manage shit like this
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>>568592235
>6 deaths by minute 9 is crazy!
Where do you get godlike teammates on the regular
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>>568592476
>feeds a 6k lead single handedly leading upto urn
they lost us the game on tank + healer
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>>568592685
lmk when you have a Billy go 0-12 minute 10
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>>568592809
here you go. winded up getting him the next game and he fed then too. idk what to do in these games.
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>>568592883
Alright this is cancer, my condolences. Some people speculate that literal AI are being trained on the game and with those stats perhaps they're right?
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>>568593034
he would die once in lane and permanently run around sidelanes 'roaming' and leeching souls and then dying to parries. the fact he ragequit out of the second match tells me it's not AI. it's just someone buying boosts.
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>>568588753
the game eats inputs sometimes
you learn to mash shit out if it's important to your survival
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>>568592685
>tank + healer
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>>568593127
>it's just someone buying boosts.
Nooooo im finally at the rank I deserve why am I getting btfo? Kill yoshit
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>>568592235
Execution heroes are dishonest
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>>568593425
People start boosting accounts at around Oracle, prior it's mostly just garden variety smurfing.
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Urn fix is out
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/668366713382765310
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>>568592235
they were never going to win that lane but the least they could do is buy monster rounds and regen and just sit it out
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>>568593865
>parrying a trooper now stuns the trooper
sugoi...
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>>568593865
PARRYNIGGERS BTFO
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>>568593986
>>568594082
explain this
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>>568588835
>>Make all of her abilities way too powerful
She had like 4 separate nerfs spread across her kit, even her gun was nerfed even though it's objectively the most dogshit gun in the game, never picked in nightshift except for 1 time when she had double tether, genuinely what more nerfs would she need to get? at this point i hope she gets her autaim gun removed even though i personally like it's aesthetic just so retarded niggers shut the fuck up about her and she's allowed to be shiv tier or mcginnis(same autoaim summons, same annoying wall ability and a heal where graves has a dogshit passive) tier without anyone saying anything, infact i hope the lich hand turns into a finger gun with bullets that deal a trillion damage like doorman with a reworked better passive
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New urn patch omg
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/678520/view
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>>568593865
>>568593896
damn it's not even lunch time yet in washington. guess yoshi is on top of this new urn shit after night shift's clownfest last night.
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>>568594328
you could perma parry with a melee minion hitting you because you can parry again immediately after a successful parry and there are no limit to how many times that can happen
happened in 1 in 10000 games
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>>568594484
awesome thanks yoshi
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I'm went 2/21/5 as Mina just now and I'm queueing with her highest prio and there's nothing any of you can do to stop me
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Where's all the gooner Holliday mods?
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>>568593865
clearly made with last night's game in mind because they'll still cry over the resist value after it was deposited
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>>568594592
just press q and you get mvp
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>>568594609
>she wears that while cleaning her entire ranch's horses sheathes with her mouth
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>>568594710
is melee mina that op?
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>>568594710
where did this narrative even come from, nox nostra still does 5x the damage of everything else at the end of the game
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I outplayed the infernus and have the element of surprise on my side. I sure hope he doesn't snort fentanyl amd runs away at mach 500 while shitting out hot lava
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>>568594710
Back to Rivals, you
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>>568594903
Its just mina players being melodramatic over their damage nerf
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>Literally 2 afks or at least 1 dc every game
I do not understand how I am supposed to leave initiate
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>>568594858
>>568594903
saars
I messed it upuh
I meant to uh say fouruh
Airduct cleaning services
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>>568595190
If you cant win a 5v6 in initiate you need to be there a bit longer
>t. Alchemist i
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Good urn changes, parrying the minion is OP tho, I've been saying it for months but minnons need some buffs, how can minnon chads play the game in this state?
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>>568593865
>urn resists only active while being deposited
Should've been like that from the start
>parry troopers now stuns it
And you can bet my lane partner will still take all of them instead of leaving some
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accidentally queued my first standard match and got placed in archon
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>>568595584
It's always at least 2 though and my teammates that are left in the match aren't any better ;-;
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Why do I even try to play Mcginnis in solo queue? My team never helps me, they don't run urn, they don't fight, they just fucking jungle.
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>>568594343
Shiv being broken as fuck and badly designed doesn't mean it is okay for Graves to be too, solely because you jerk off to her.
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Can we just ban Russians? These niggers always cheat on pro play any chance they get.
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>>568596121
youre an anti competitive white tranny and no one will miss you when you blast yourself freak
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>>568596121
you clearly aren't competetive enough
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https://x.com/AVGdeadlock/status/2060039857578115583
essay dropped
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why does victor's ult have double the spirit scaling of infernus' with a longer stun duration, a shorter delay with built in slow, and a similar radius and cooldown
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>>568596398
Wow that guy sounds like a huge pussy
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Celestrannies be like
>DUDE look how fast I can ride my bike! And I haven't fallen once! I'm so skilled!
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>>568595948
They cant jungle if you just take the whole jungle which is trivial as McGinnis
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>>568596784
>t. can't ride his bike
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>>568596784
this guy got RAPED by a Celeste player so hard he had to post this
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>>568596378
>>568596394
>Rusisans immediately start melting
Incredible
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>>568593865
>just won a game as Kelvin by sheltering urn from the enemies
Kek
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Delete the urn it's still AIDs
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>play seven
>call people niggers faggots kikes etc
>people think I'm just acting in character and let it slide
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>>568597017
it's amazing how they always blast people with anti-lgbt shit too considering they are LITERALLY the AIDS capital of europe. Highest rates. Constant gay rape in their armies. "hazing rituals".
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>Asc 3 last month
>Epic losing streak brings me all the way down to Archon 5
>Now back up to Phantom 6
what the fuck did they do to the matchmaker? this + urn changes is the most unfun I have ever had playing this game
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>>568596710
kek
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>try to queue with randoms that add me
>they're fucking retarded and go like 4-15 2-3 games in a row
yep not doing this anymore
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>waste parry
>enemy immediately dashes in for a heavy melee
>I just dash away and avoid it
>nothing is gained nor lost from this interaction
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I want them to add a hero that's literally just a dude with the mortar from Tribes, so I can spend all game doing cross-map urn runner snipes and walker to walker moon shots
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I'm so fucking shit at this game. Makes it hard to have fun.
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I still don’t understand why NightShift is a weekly event
Making it monthly would be much better
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>can't do this anymore
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>>568594328
See >>568568430
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>>568597657
just queued into this...
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>>568597657
I like how they sometimes try to speak english and end up speaking 2 languages at same time
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>>568597291
>eternus 3
>10 straight games of dead silent teammates, unga bunga brawlers and comp diffs
>drop to Asc 5
at least i can otp now
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>>568597692
did it only work with melee troopers or could you parry regular troopers too?
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>>568597776
>mute
smart
>>568597859
The only english I hear from them is the "SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH" at the start of the game to swap lanes then nothing but russian until late game when the blame game starts
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>>568597657
I use Cyrillic purely because of the seethe it causes.
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>>568597657
mating press
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>>568597912
>white monkey
You mean rusnigs?
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>>568597691
Reminder this remtard had no intention of getting a perma parry and just happened to get it from the trooper.
Reminder this remtard can never get a perma parry again after the change.
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This patch came in clutch.
I was actually using the urn as a perma defense banner in pubs and it actually fucking worked, it wasn't just a tournament thing if you practice discretion.
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>>568598480
keep crying poorfag. will look forward to the day you rope yourself out of dread.
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>>568598480
It's just a Washington/Moscow/Tel Aviv poster ignore.
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>>568597912
ayooo mayo monkey vs borscht crackas
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Add payload.
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>>568597509
is that the sticky bomb gun
i swear that's the sticky bomb gun
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>>568598843
I think all the screeching about AoEslop from the Urn changes proves that Payload wouldnt be very fun.
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>Urn runner when behind now gains +35% Bullet and Spirit Resist for themselves only
what the FUCK now comeback with the urn is nearly more impossible
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I'm glad that rusnigs are about to go extinct thanks to their retarded war
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im glad amernigs are about to starve thanks to their retarded war
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>>568600010
>about to
They already have to choose between paying rent or buying food.
Now they have gas added to the list.
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>>568565390
He's right, thoughbeit
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>rusnigs think everyone that hates them is american
Why are they so retarded?
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>pick low effort hero because I don't want to work to win
>parry abrams
>he ragequits
>get mvp
bonus points I stopped two dynamo ults with horses
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paige and horses
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I need your strongest Billy images
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>Im not American, said the American vassal state shabbos goy
lol
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>Victor, Haze, Graves, Seven on the opposing team
Guess ill get fucked for 35 minutes
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Anybody who spergs out about russians or indians is because they are white trannies and are too afraid to say nigger since they get bumfucked by gay african americans IRL and don't want to offend their masters while at the same time being equally as racist as true white supremacists
I know this from interacting with people in the game on voice chat. Unfortunately I get muted the minute I defend myself or respond back due to valves AI system banning you if you get mass reported even if you say 0 slurs.
t. black anon who usually lurks but thought the argument in this general was funny how trannies will resort to saying it's DA PAJEETS AND DA RUSKIS instead of DA JOOZ like chuds do
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>>568547583
The old urn drop off was in better spot too, since each team had a high ground advantage. The new changes made urn more important than rejuv. Because instead of getting a few thousand souls your team can either get a 20k from a team wipe or lose a team fight and toss the game. I hate the new urn, because it fucks up my macro. I will be pushing lane because I'm playing OBJ but there is a URN fight every 5 minutes. So I have to speed across the map to help out and most of the time to die, while if I stayed I would've got walker. Also the new urn changes fucks up assassin flankers, as people do urn instead of farming or roaming. While cc heros shine even more.

I have noticed that playing for your team will hinder you and throw games, as if your playing Overwatch or Marvel rivals. While before you would win games with team work. For some reason they are taking all the fun mechanics away to make this game a hero shooter slop with no thinking required.

The only way I can think the new urn can work if they add 4 lanes again. This game is supposed be a moba not some shitty rivals clone.
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>>568572762
It wouldn't take a lot of work. Add something to Crackshot for mid to late game impact (maybe a stacking bullet resist shred), buff her gun slightly and you're all set. Ideally I'd also like to see Lasso be cancelable early by pressing 4 again, refund part of the cooldown if you catch someone channeling with it, and possibly let you hold it like Celeste does with her ult. Bounce pad 5 points upgrade should be replaced because it's dogshit and Barrels should be reworked or replaced entirely (because if her scaling is improved her laning should be worse or at least take more skill to execute; it would also make barreltroons seethe.) Oh yeah, and they should make her intensely racist and gay-hating (for the same reason.)
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Does having more characters selected increase your matchmaking time?

>>568597436
you lost a stamina bar, net loss for you
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W-What the fuck?? WHAT THE FUCK??? WHAT??? AAH!! AAAAAAAAHH!!!! AAAAAAHH!!!!! AAAAH!! NO ONE TOLD ME THIS GAME WOULD BE SCARY!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
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>>568601447
banned in china
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>>568598630
They should make an item like that
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>>568601559
Scourge is only single target and I will always use it on myself.
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>>568601559
Heroic Aura is kind of for gun, just not anywhere near as good.
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>be playing competitive shooter games for my entire life
>TF2 & ETF2L
>quake
>CS 22k rating peak
>Overwatch 1 widow otp
>and a bunch of casual games like battlefield and cod
All of you anons who say mina is easy to play are a bunch of fucking dishonest niggers. I have 500hrs & 60% wr in this game and I still feel like I suck dick at this hero, having hard time breaking into oracle.
And then I look at eternus graves otp who has 500 games played and is top 200 graves in EU - how the fuck?

Been maining mina since the start (recently added Lash) and Mina has been one of the most unforgiving heros I tried. So what is it? Is she easy to play and abuse or people who complain about this hero have no fucking clue wha they are talking about?

You fags love to donwplay the amount of skill that goes into this hero. No other hero made me feel like I need to explore the map, dive deep into movement mechanics, watch vods & do kovaaks routines. Meanwhile I then look at the actual easy heros like mcginnis, victor, seven etc. and nobody ever calls out people who main them
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>>568601817
a tier 4 aura item would be game breaking according to the pros
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The game was more fun when you were in low MMR and the urn was just a side objective that you'd maybe do when there were two or more dead people on the enemy team. Forced street brawl aoe slop spamfest every X minutes is not and will never be fun.
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>>568602003
It would be
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i hate pocket how do i rape dem they thems?
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>>568601108
Based. I'm black too. all whites genetically predisposed to have psychotic genocidal tendencies and parasitic behavior
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>>568602193
For some reason every player decides to drop what theyre doing and go do urn even when theyre down a couple of players resulting in not only the loss of urn but also team wipe / mid boss.
Urn pops up and everyone goes full retard.
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>>568601990
kys rev mayers
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>>568601990
>TF2
>competitive shooter
Lol
Lmao
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>>568543907
Ritualist up to Archon are hellish Elo because they're around the middle, so sometimes you get people who have literally never played the game before mixed in with an Eternus queueing with a friend or something
Just a horrific blend of people stomping and getting stomped and you just have to pray you don't get a lane assassin for a partner, or else it's an Egg game
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I remain without Billy images.
i cri
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>BRO JUST BUY DISPEL INTO AFTER BURN IT'S SI-
>reapplied 0.2s later
yeah I'm sick of this nigger getting excuses
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>>568603057
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>>568603126
All you can hope for is spirit resit if he's fed
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>>568601990
Mina is super easy to play though.
Also if you are a one trick pony sniper player in Overwatch you're a fag lol
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>>568603126
>disengage
>Dispel the burn so you dont bleed out
retard-kun, theres no point to dispelling in the middle of combat.
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>>568603185
I dont want to put on a watchlist for looking up goats
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>>568602645
>Urn pops up and everyone goes full retard
Because the Urn is literally the 3rd most valuable objective in the game.
Not atleast contesting it when it's up is throwing even if you have very little chance of success because if you let the enemy team get one or more free urns that means your team that already lost a fight if you're down players now has to somehow lock in and win with a larger soul deficit.
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>>568600740
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>>568601108
Nigger babble
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>>568602852
>doesnt know about etf2l
newfag
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>>568600740
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>>568602852
>ruins tf2
>ruins counter strike
>dota boring as fuck
>ruining deadlock before release
what the fuck is this companies problem
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desu get rid of all healing sources except for the healing trooper
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i need leaks
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>>568604201
safety first
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>>568602735
dont summon that faggot please
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>>568600740
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>>568603626
I understand but its not always worth it if it means team wipe. Just pull back and push lane/walker instead. At least youll get something out of it
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>>568601447
https://youtu.be/8O8PSFMKqLQ
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>>568601990
>kovaaks routines
lol
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>>568600293
Ironically Americans are more likely to question why anyone would hate Russians as they don't have to experience what matchmaking is like when Moscow's backwater satellite villagers are involved.
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>Urn timer now gets frozen with Kelvin's ult
FUARK... he is no longer king...
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>>568603457
YEAH SURE IS A GOOD THING HE HAS NO GAP CLOSERS YOU THICK FUCK
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>>568596398
QRD? I missed nightshift NA last night
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>>568601990
Holiday and viscous are the high skill movement characters
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yoshi is trying so hard to make urn work
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They should take half the urn souls and shove it into the hard jungle camps, urn being THE most important objective is dumb as fuck cuz its clear thats intended to be midboss but instead midboss and walkers and even shrines are distantly behind le teamfight jug
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>>568605928
>Throw laning phase so you get comeback urn, every single person buys egg too
>Get qualified for comeback urn
>Get a guy to pick up urn but don't deposit it, instead play game as normal, swapping urn between people as your team gets 35% resists
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>>568605987
>holligay
>high skill movement
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>>568602483
Pretty much they're all hypocrites as well. The amount of degenerates and subhumans who have called me a nigger in game and then you go to their steam profile and they have hentai/loli and just blatant porn on their page or are a furry or are a tranny is also hilarious.

>>568603678
Yes we get it reading comprehension is hard for little timmy who believes he's a woman by putting on a dress and cutting his dick off. Your birth rates slowly declining and the average gen Z white teenager having a reading comprehension of a 5th grader according to studies totally is just a coincidence.
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>>568605928
>urn grants resist in an aoe when in comeback mode
>genius plan, lets buy egg and play like shit to force comeback urn and then just carry the urn around as a mobile super resist aura to win every fight
>it works, other team bitches, and people quit out and forfeit the tournament
it's changed/fixed now
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>>568603678
t. has a steam page full of hentai shit
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>>568606267
>mentions trannys out of the blue
No wonder people call you nigger in game.
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>team keeps taking urn or taking urn fights
>we lose every single fight
>enemy team takes rejuv
>team decides to go slug it out with a team we have lost to every single time rather than play it safe
at least it ended the game faster i guess
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>>568606274
Couldn't they just take an L and play on after whining to TO to get it banned?
Won't the urn switchback to non-comeback at some point?
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>Local voice chat enabled when urn is being contested (EXPERIMENTAL)
>If the urn is taking longer than 30 seconds to deliver a shadow rapist will spawn in to rape the staller or encourage faster delivery
>Urn model replaced with Pragmata girl to encourage more deliveries
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>>568606670
Urn only switched back if it wasn't being held during the transition to a new urn (i.e every 5 minutes) and MLC was just holding it through the transition
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>>568601990
Seven players are the butt of a joke, well known for delivering the urn to a team of six, waiting for his arrival.

People hate Mina because her Sanguine Retreat is so darn useful that counter buys can often times feel invalidated. Even if you slowing hex her, she just noclips out of existence at 1hp to safety. Also people's response to silences is typically high cortisol, no one likes a CC ult.

Even so, she's far from the level of "free win" that Haze or Dynamo are, so if people hit you with the slander, show them their 58% win rate picks and laugh.
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>>568606608
Nope if I hear a high pitched voice that's nasally and trying it's hardest to be a white woman it's obviously a tranny and they openly talk about how they are trans in-game. I just simply comment on it because it's hilarious so they stop talking in voice chat.
You're not fooling anybody and you don't pass in-game or IRL. I'd rather have a million minorities and literal indians on my team who actually know how to play the game than trannies who e-RP in general chat and suck ass and feed 0/10.
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>genericedboi crying about someone being racist because they said "you're my nigga"
>chud vs lefty infighting in NA e6 lobbies ensues
lol
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I don't miss the old urn system ngl, half the time the person who picked up urn was the guy who fed his ass off in lane and he would just fucking walk to the urn delivery site to either die in a 1v6 or start a losing teamfight
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>>568607004
>What's wrong with your voice bro
>Silence for the rest of the match
lol
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so is this dumb mechanic finally fixed or not?
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>>568607103
I didn't mind the old or new one, but I just like anything remotely new or refreshing even if it is fundamentally shit since its at least something new to fuck with for a bit
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>>568601108
Based. Notice how Americans love punching down against literal third worlders but you'll never hear antisemitism in voice chat, that's too spicy.
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>tournament in pre-alpha playtest
>everyone losing their minds that this game isn't balanced yet
We've gone full retard, haven't we.
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>pronouns in name
>either a tranny name like lilith, or references to fetish shit like puppygirls
>doesnt even remotely sound female
>playing celeste, silver, mina, paige, or holliday
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I think they're getting the urn to be in a better spot but real talk they didn't need to go through all these retarded steps to land here, could've brainstormed for 5 minutes with dlg to shit this version out FUCK SAKE YOSHI
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>>568607379
They should remove mid boss to remind people this is a beta and scare the hoes.
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>>568607369
>but you'll never hear antisemitism in voice chat
You'll constantly see people calling each other "Israeli" but they get pissed off if you say Jew or Kike, I'm so tired of safe edgy people
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>>568607004
Lmao what the fuck are you on about?
>I just simply comment on it because it's hilarious
If you have such a problem with trannys just mute dude.
You speak like youre doing your due diligence calling trannys out on the regular.
Nigger behavior honestly.
Just play the game
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>>568607379
Personally I want more exploit usage in niggashit. Get both teams to do it, basically use it as a public way of exposing bugs so the team instantly fixes them, aka what it's already doing it except one team is always a whiny bitch about it
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>>568607687
It isn't due diligence it is doing the world a favor really. Trannies rot every community from the inside, they should be shamed and removed asap
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>>568607994
Bigots like you deserve permanent bans from the game.
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>>568607615
Remember how "goy slop" got watered down into "slop" as to be YouTube friendly from the 4chan -> Youtube pipeline?

This is the stuff I think about watching movies man. The villain can be White, Mexican, Italian, Arab, but he can never ever be a Jew. Would get you industry blacklisted.

Shit's subliminal, even the edgy internet teenagers are scared of saying the wrong thing in VC.
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>>568607782
This. Ever since urn changed I've complained on discord and forums to make it only give the resists when placed at the urn site.
Nothing until niggashift does it.
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>>568607379
this is late alpha at best, more accurately mid beta
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Give me your driftard memes
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>>568606904
>show them their 58% win rate picks and laugh
That's what i've been doing

They always move the goal post into "wr doesn't matter". Let's pretend like there is no coorelation between global winrate on a specific hero and how busted and easy they are to play. Then you look at these players statlocker and you see a sea of red until they picked a flavor of the month broken hero. These are the same people who will bitch about high skill ceiling heroes being executed well once in 10+ games they see them in
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Honestly I think the night shift management is just spineless as fuck, first the abrahams thing and the urn thing.
They could easily just have told both teams to stop doing that shit 5 minutes in the match and restarted it instead of doing nothing because it's technically not a cheat.
At least the upside is that Valve quickly fixes those exploits the next day.
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I love how every drifter is high cortisol and every rem is drunk as fuck
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>>568608567
Yeah they do come off as spineless, with the Abrahams thing they needed the entire chat and a bunch of pressure from the community to disqualify otherwise it would've been sliding by.

They don't even have a real official rulebook just some general pointers.

Can't blame em too much though, it's a new league in a new game, they're trying to be flexible and lenient to make things more smooth. Don't wanna choke out the scene before it's established, still, at some point they need to get some firm rules and conduct.
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>>568608752
Everytime I see a Rem on my team, I immediately internalize it as a handicap for my opponents since they will either go "pillow rem" or "gun rem" making it a 5v6 game
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568598980
it wouldn't be a deadlock thread without a shitskin having a meltdown
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>nerf graves
>play graves all the time during the nerf
>get pretty good with her
>they buff her
>get to be king shit of fuck mountain
>repeat this every two months
Feels good being the king
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>>568609331
This must be what all onetricks of low WR characters feel when their character gets buffed to be SS+ tier
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Melee sinclair is so fucking broken but /dlg/ is not ready for that thermonuclear truth supernova
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>>568609047
soulful gameplay
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>>568602483
>>568606267
>>568607004
I'm sorry little crying shitskin, but you will never be one of the blacks.
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>>568609576
>Gets to steal rejuv for free and instantly teleport to safety
He's broken for that reason alone
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>>568609576
Don't worry, you'll change back! :)
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>>568609047
>Hunter's Aura
Yeah it's kino
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>>568609047
This is what deadlock looked like before the new urn
Never forget what they took from you
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>>568609576
bnuuuuuuy
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>>568609047
>Teh dorkness cums for em
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>>568607456
I've heard plenty of troons but actually putting pronouns in the name is new to me.
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qrn on whatever happened in esports regarding urn?
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>>568609438
As someone who plays a former low WR character it's not all that great because you get to play them much less because every rank obsessed bandwagoning faggot hops on it
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read the thread
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>>568597436
>dash 30m away from meleeing apponent
>still hits you
heh, nothing personnel kid
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nyooo you have to spoon feed me everything I don't have a thread AI to give me a daily bullet point break down I barely read anyway
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>you HAVE to wade through waifufaggotery, low effort shitposts, awful bait and 30 thousand kilometers worth of two subhuman brown thirdies slapfighting to get the context! Otherwise you're stinky and stupid and not a hecking basederino 4channer like me!
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>play yamato a lot in brool to learn how to
>finally get to actual game
>get mvps
>feel good
>notice that game puts me 3 ranks below
>feel bad
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What the fuck is up with the HP it feels like every bursty character 3 shots me
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me when I go to the 4chan thread and am surprised when 4chan things happen in it
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>Visit the shitposting general
>I HAVE TO READ SHITPOSTS?
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>>568607615
yeah it's kind of nuts how people cling to the narrative everybody's afraid of antisemitism when you have 12 year olds posting and boosting gropyer memes about Israelis (anyone jewish) on youtube shorts nowadays
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>>568610686
yeah and if you're unlucky enough to have a shit team right when you're facing a lower elo team, you can expect to lose about that much in rank.
You might be able to carry, but as soon as the enemy realizes they just have to kill you?
game, set, and match
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>>568610847
No one is afraid of antisemitism they're just afraid of the semite controlled media shutting them down, usually for pointing out it's controlled by semites.
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>public winrates correlate with how easy a hero is to play
i am god's chosen
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>>568568430
absolute mogging
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>>568566521
>>568587379
ok. it's time for me to try her out.
which build is the correct build?
>oses7
>farmingbip
>hydration
>vegas
>andrewchicken
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>>568610917
I've literally had games won when we all just agreed to focus down the one enemy carry with disarm, curse or whatever needed to castrate them lol, it does happen
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>>568568430
I'm so fucking happy the melee creep parry mechanic is finally removed.
fucking garbage.
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Yoshi is a retard
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>>568611030
I probably played against you
>Venator playing like fucking Batman, jumping off roofs to gank, shotgun blast into wall, traps already placed everywhere so his victim can't escape, if they get away he ults and kills them
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>>568611030
honestly that dip makes sense, people are good enough to dive him but bad enough to help him if he's dived at that mmr.
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>>568611293
I use old nahoo, think there is still there as someone's copy
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>>568610917
the only thing worse than realizing my terrible ass is the best player on my team by a mile is when the enemy team realizes it too
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>>568611030
Good on you for making him work I always eat shit playing Venator
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>>568609239
Rather be a "shitskin" than a tranny pedo any day.
Also you just outed yourself as trans since they're the only ones who reply without replying.
>>568607994
Yep pretty much the only thing politically I agree with in terms of racist chuds. Trannies ruin every gaming community.
>>568609659
I am african american but ok lol whatever helps you cope. Just because some gay nigga on grindr fucks you up the ass doesn't mean the majority of FBAs aren't homophobic as fuck (we are)


Sorry for the late reply but unlike you I actually play the game instead of beating my dick to fan-art and shitposting constantly.
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>nigger has an opinion
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>>568611587
crying shitskin thinks we read his wannabe niggerbabble lol
you're not him
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>>568611293
>oses
one of the best m1 carries
>farmingbip
nobody
>hydration
getting too old to be a carry so he is a play maker support now
>vegas
not good enough to stay pro, decided to "focus" on streaming despite all the other people he used to play with also competing/streaming at the same time
>andrewchicken
nobody
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>>568609659
I make more than my white peers. All timmy can do is brag about how unhinged and violent his ancestors were while he smokes meth in his trailer park
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Fix the matchmaking or put in a surrender option please
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>>568611889
Tough when getting old just means being 30+ or whatever damn
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>>568612030
that's pretty standard for sports or anything requiring reaction times and finesse
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>>568611939
>move urn to the enemies base
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>A..anyone who dislikes russians is a t..tranny!!!
What kind of retard logic is this. I'll tear the head off stupid niggers like you then punt it at your russian boyfriend.
.t fed
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>>568611587
Do your Democrat handlers allow you to call people trannies?
Never forget the 6 million murdered black trans women.
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>>568604702
I loves torturing that fat italian monkey and posting his face online lol
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>>568611939
they will do neither
you WILL melee the urn
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>>568612371
It's an Ivan pretending to be a brotha
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>>568612030
Its just life man, men start decaying physically around 24 and he is nearing his 30s.
Hydration's ability for young man reactions is long past him, but he has a lot of experience and what is left to keep him going.
Happens in normal sports too, majority of athletes don't keep playing at the end of their 20s/into their 30s unless they were genetic freaks or very intelligent.
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>>568611904
that's not much of an achievement for a thirty year old working in a mcdonalds
or maybe it is for a brownoid crying about whypipo, who knows
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>>568611819
>>568611701
>tranny isn't playing the game and is instead gooning
And that is why you get bullied on voice chat.
The whites in this thread seem to be chimping out ruh roh!
>>568612420
>retard still thinks political parties matter when zionists run your country and both political parties and are pedos
Low IQ white boomer detected you can't be younger than 40 thinking "voting" is real.
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>>568612717
23, wfh tech job. i slept in all day while you seethed and earned zilch whitey lol.
we love seeing your face turn red.
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>>568612630
Yeah it's cruel but true not disputing it, it's how you say. Even in my late 20s I can feel that it's not the same speed as my early 20s, but experience wise I'm quite much better, sadly that gap is hard to bridge even with it. Life is lived fowards but only understood backwards.
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>>568611889
>too old
ok but why are they higher rank than you then?
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>Mo&Krill teammate sacrifices himself by ulting the person chasing me
I won't forget you...
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>>568611939
go back to lol, you will never have fun here.
>>>/vg/lolg
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>>568613026
>hides dates played, and ranks
Kek
>>568613108
Nta but I'm also in my 30s and eternus. It's mostly about playtime to anyone with functioning hands. Games pretty generous with the MMR
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>>568613350
>wants to stalk and harass a black man playing the game because he's having a tranny meltdown.
Nope get a life timmy.
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We clown on timmys in this general. no one is taking whitey serious.
>waaaah game too hard, add a surrender button
bitch lol. go ahead and chimp out or troon out
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>see wraith for a split second
>CARDS + 9.2 QUINTILLION DAMAGE
hate this character so much
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>>568607493
cajun hands typed this
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>>568613507
Based. You just know these tim tim are gonna be vindicitve sissys
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>literally MCNIGGIS
you can't make this shit up
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>>568613507
Yea, I'm not even apart of your retarded argument. I just think you're a pussy. Covering the dates those matches could be a year old.
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>>568613273
> omg guys if i tell anyone who doesnt like valves retarded ass decisions to go to lol hard enough Gaben-senpai might notice me!!!

thats what you niggers sound like please walk into traffic and get hit by a cybertruck asap
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>we have rejuv
>their patron is weakened
>IS THAT SOMEONE ATTACKING OUR BASE GUARDIANS?!
>I GOTTA ZIP BACK TO BASE PRONTO! WE CANT LET OUR BASE GUARDIANS FALL AS WE'RE ABOUT TO WIN!
what goes through these people's heads...man
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>0/8 spirit Bebop started calling me a nigger because I, the humble 5/0 Victor, took a 1k soul bag before he did
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>>568613783
I didn't read any of that. you're never getting a surrender option or auto-moderated chat here. fuck off tourist.
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What kind of nigger? A black nigger?
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NEW UPDATE URN IS GONE
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>>568613783
ok. go back to lol now
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>>568607379
this isn't a playtest anymore, the real playtest is the experimental branch
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>>568614186
>he says as the developers push an experimental update followed by multiple panic emergency patches
yeah sure
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>>568611436
DIE, MONSTER!
gods i love this kit. if you see swift striker and stamina mastery that just might be me
although currently i'm experimenting with some 10-minute-nade-max build with egg and cultist for urn shenanigans

>>568611438
his WR is bad through every rank as far as i know, that dip is his patch-by-patch winrate
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stand by for my arrival worm
-apollo
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>>568614368
>an experimental update that was greenlit by the secret testers of the experimental branch
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>>568614380
nice trap bro you shit on that guy
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>>568613650
>NOOOO you can't LE heckerino like mcginnus
I've been playing since the game had 1v1 lanes and not the duo shit and I'm not switching just because you're asshurt.
If it makes you feel better I also play warden with the 50 cent mod and abrams with the lebron james mod : ^ )
Seethe.
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>>568614009
>auto-moderated chat
i didnt say anything about auto mod chat schizo
>>568614178
kys
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>>568608987
>best carrier of cc items in the game
>best healer for aggressive heroes
>free money to afford these things
>play gun
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Yeah I'm thinking I like Billy, but that might just be because players stop parrying by midgame for some reason
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>>568614434
Both can simultaneously be true.
Experimental is... More experimental.
Shit's still a beta either way.
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>>568611889
>oses
>justify him because he is one of the best m1 carries
>not because of his movement
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>>568614902
During laning people pay a lot of attention to micro and positioning but mid to late game watching minimap and enemy ults start being a bigger attention sink
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literally everyone plays holliday i never get her as my prio pick with 2 other low
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>>568615316
lots of hipsters in the world
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>>568607379
Its just proof that Deadlock is gonna take off when it become publicly available. This "controversy" has only convinced me of that even more.
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>>568611383
Lmao that's why they removed it? I was wondering why.
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all the urn changes do is expose what was already deadlocks biggest issue, that people DON'T SHOVE THE LANE. now that people are constantly fighting over urn, you lose 1-2 walkers every single time from a splitpush because you DIDN'T SHOVE THE LANE before doing it
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>>568579948
now make Apollo the brother model
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>>568616016
the issue is yoshi being incompetent
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>>568616290
>the issue is yoshi being impotent
agreed
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>>568616290
no you're just a jackass that loves clicking on camps instead of fighting the enemy team or pushing objectives. the 1 game out of 10 where I get people who actually play aggressively and conciously we get to take urn, then take a walker while someone pushes the lanes back up because we SHOVED THE LANE, causing us to get 10 times the money you get from a medium camp for the whole team and proceed to have a good and cool time.
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>>568602483
>all whites genetically predisposed to have psychotic genocidal tendencies and parasitic behavior
meanwhile all shitskin races cost their states 1 million dollars over the course of their life. they're all a drain. keep coping jamal.
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>current meta is centered entirely around grouping and rotating for urn
>graves, McGinnis, etc, all become the most annoying characters
>somehow the horse's name is not mentioned
What happened to her? Shouldn't this be the perfect time to play her?
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>>568607782
>except one team is always a whiny bitch about it
Yeah man I wonder if it has anything to do with specific people being given access to secret playtests that give them the privilege of exploiting these bugs. I wonder if it has anything to do with their chances of winning cash being spoiled by exploiting cunts. Cheating is a public service, actually!
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>If I didn't exploit someone else would
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coming from dota i am a position 3 player. favorites are axe, bristle, pango, centaur, lycan, tiny, leshrac, mostly in that order. i usually just like dudes that can run in and hit people. i like being able to bully in lane too, but have a strong midgame.
my current rotation is billy, victor, and kelvin, but none of them really fully feel quite the same as what i like. victor is probably the closest but he feels more like a farming scaler. any suggestions? i dont really like abrams from what i have tried so far and he seems to be billed as the tank the most.
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>>568614938
does oses actually play seven a lot or am I better off with another build
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>>568616926
She's still super overpowered, people just have accepted it somewhat.
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>>568616926
I have no fucking idea why she still has dash slow on ult.
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>>568615128
Yeah that and players have their abilities they use in a particular order and having to parry in between breaks their rhythm.
There was this Yamato I was bullying because I could tell they wanted to use their moves but were hesistant because they were looking for a heavy to parry.
it got to the point where they didnt even want to use their grapple hook on anyone because I might be around the corner.
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We have you now
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>>568616926
Yes? She is currently retardedly strong also but just not AS strong at area denial compared to the top dogs which is what this retarded meta boiled down to.
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>>568617378
mo krill or bebop
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>>568613968
Victor players are persecuted by all
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>>568617173
another white monkey melty
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>>568617378
Geist is great for getting in your face and bullying someone, Shiv, Calico, Vyper, Silver
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>what the fuck why are competitive players doing everything within the confines of the game to win?
>IM SO ANGRY time to troon the fuck out and chop up my white penis arggggh i hate europeans arrrgh
Yup timmy hours.
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>7 minutes in to the game
>look at scoreboard
>13/1/2 shiv on other sidelane
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wtf is the hidden king doing by letting people like mirage join the ritual? he's stinking up the place!
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>>568616926
The horse lacks hard CC, you still can't contest against a Dynamo or Graves. She's good if your team had a chance to contest the urn in the first place, but often times that's not even the discussion.
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>>568617593
She's overpowered but has one of the worse winrates in the new patch? inb4 super secret chinese tech hidden potential.
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>>568616926
she's hard to play, not everyone can play her.
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Reminder that Rem is provably one of the most skill-based characters
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>>568611293
Most of the spirit builds are pretty similar, just pick one and edit them to fit your play style.
I use farmingbit but edited a bit (no rapid recharge, stam mastery instead of arcane surge, adding warp stone).
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>>568617378
Abrams?
He's a melee focused character with a... revolver shotgun?

Anyways he has a charge ability you use to pin heroes to walls for a stun which opens them for a heavy melee (YEOWCH!)
An aura ability similar to victor that does damage and lifesteals.
A passive ability that grants you temp regeneration for a portion of damage dealt to you.
And an ult that launches you in the air and come crashing down in a targeted area that does decent aoe damage and stuns everyone in the area.
Deadlock's staple melee focused tank.
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>>568618358
hero is just shit
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>>568616926
>Urn is a 6v6 AOEslop parryslop shitfest instead of a "drop in with schmoovement" like it was before
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>>568616868
>draining out a country that was built on colonization incest pedophilia and your elites eating babies
Sounds based to me hopefully my ghetto brethern continue to do so until the IsraelSA collapses.
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>>568593865
>>568597890
all troopers have melee attacks so it worked with any of them
stunning troopers could be useful for some meme trooper stall strat/situations
i wonder if rebuttal works on them
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>>568618136
I think the problem isn't that she's bad it's that this meta is genuinely so fucking retarded and heavily favors area denial heroes so much that it dumpstered everything else, celeste's mobility becomes worthless when suddenly everyone has to clump and fight over the same 5m area.

If you look at the stats some heroes that dominated the meta are now at the bottom just because they aren't good at this kind of faggotry. I think she's really strong just not in the current meme urn meta which only favors like 6-8 heroes at most while everyone else gets to eat shit.
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>>568618719
>everyone has to clump and fight over the same 5m area
Shouldn't her ult just autowin that engagement then?
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THERE ARE 80K DAILY PLAYERS REMOVE THE 3 HERO SYSTEM ALREADY
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>>568616926
ivy's WR also did not budge one bit even though she should be THE objective brool rapist hero
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>>568619107
man I remember when deadlock had like 15k players and some retard was spamming marvel rivals.
I wonder if they OD'd on fent
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>>568619123
it's because kudzu/stoneform/air drop all got spirit scaling nerfs out the ass way before this. also you can't stack two kudzus on top of one another so it's not comparable to a hero like say paradox. it will only register one for damage. she's still good. hence why she hasn't gone DOWN in winrate. she's just balanced
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>>568618946
No because the current urn meta heroes autowin it harder, victor for example doesn't give a fuck he just wants to die and refresher ontop of urn. Celeste's ult is good because it slows people really hard but when they don't care about getting slowed they can just tank it because realistically it doesn't really do enough damage to push people off since the bounces are spread out the team and compared to others like victor/graves/mcginnis who will outright teamwipe you if you dare contest.
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boys i dropped from ascendant to phantom during the urn shitfest and now i am feeling like a fraud because i am not climbing back out quickly
i had a losing streak and lost 7 ranks over like 10 games somehow, and now it is taking 2-3 wins in a row to claw each one back
am i a fraud
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>paige backseating the entire game
>emphasizes how hard the enemy victor was carrying the team
>then picks up the urn and commits to it the second he respawns
a couple weeks ago I was ritualist 3. a truly high tier player, i know. I am now arcanist 1. I have had nothing but games like this for two weeks. it's like yoshi decided I need to suffer
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>>568611293
Vegas's is okay. The rest suck. Use nahoo's.
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>>568618946
Her ult doesn't do enough damage in a crowd since it has limited bounces, it's not based on duration. Celeste ult in a 1v1 with T3 shield is a completely different output than a Celeste trying to 1v4 a crowd. Also it's mediocre until the late game where it's finally very solid, but at that point the enemy probably ran urn like four times.
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>>568619805
It depends, this meta is literally decided by 1 of 5 or so heroes, if you are playing one of them and still deranking then absolutely.
Otherwise no you're just at the mercy of the team composition.
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>>568619859
>PULL. BACK.
Behead all Paige players. All backseating troons with zero game sense because they only thing they know how to do is pocket their boyfriend.
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>>568620158
i play billy victor kelvin and rem who are all good in this meta :(
the wild thing is that i was at ascendant 3 for about 3 months or so before this, then went on a losing streak, and now i am just pubstomping but it feels like i am with trenchies again
back to the grind i guess
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>>568619805
>>568620390
>Ascendant 4
>Haven't played since the urn changes
You guys are giving me anxiety.
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>>568620556
New new new urn should be fine but there was a time where I didn't know what the fuck was going on in game macro wise tho I am hardstuck tomtom
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had a gravenigger grief by intentionally afking and admitting it in chat that he did it on purpose because it was "done to him in previous games" or something

I reported him
he will get banned right?
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>deposit the urn
>the winning team just wipes us anyway since the resists are instantly gone
Good job, Icenigger.
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>>568620895
shut up bitch
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>>568620895
no.
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>>568620217
>puts 2 on carries
>erm why are we losing hello its obviously your fault gets jumped by a yamato
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>>568620973
the game will die, thanks to that retard
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>>568614519
i love his traps so much. they don't always pan out but when they do, UNF
the wallstun from shotgun T2 combos into trap very consistently. i technically whiffed my trap here but it worked out
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>>568619859
I had a Paige backseat me for doing "gun Seven" (literally just the 4.8k gun spike, the rest is full spirit) and that I was the reason we're losing because I was splitpushing and farming and didn't rush fucking lighning scroll
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>>568621251
did you not get enough (you)s yesterday cry baby?
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>>568621125
that owl was not fucking necessary
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>>568619859
>healing nova and rescue beam with nary a knockdown or vortex web in sight
support players are so useless and entitled in every single game and i mean that every single one
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I was already an Ascendant M&K but my game is being elevated by realizing I don't have to unburrow and combo in every encounter.
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im gonna first item rebuttal to parry creeps
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>>568620895
reports are placebo
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>>568621331
woe
bird be upon ye
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>>568620973
well he gave you 6.4k worth of resilience items and a teamfight to use it, if you couldn't come back, what more can he do
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>bomb someone
>they dash away
>timestop someone
>they dash away
>swap someone
>they dash away after the swap is done
How am I meant to play Paradox?
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>>568619805
No, the matchmaking and ranking system is atrocious and there are multiple people who report going down in rank after a win.
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>>568621329
Silence, Paige tranny
Death to all support players
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>>568621535
i wish paradox would timestop me and make me cum 60 times in 60 different ways before resuming time so i crumple onto the floor in a pool of my own cum
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>>568621535
>How am I meant to play Paradox?
spam bombs and echo shard bombs on the urn deposit, midboss, team fight lanes and patron pit literally any other way is throwing
>t paradox as third most played
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>>568621535
The burst is timestop into headshot.
bomb is used to clear waves and area denial which is especially useful in lane phase.
swap is typically used right after wall since the wall damages heroes and to force the hero to choose between dashing through it again for more damage or waste time going around it.
especially useful if you have a guardian or walker behind you to beam them for free damage.
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>>568587379
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we need new bread
And make the OP Rem's shote hole
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Now that the thread is almost over I want to say that I unbound my parry key in the hopes that a strong Abrams player will heavy melee me over and over
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>>568622602
His book is THE kamasutra
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YOU MUST NOW DRIBBLE THE URN

YOU ARE GIVEN A SET AMOUNT OF STEPS TO CARRY URN

YOU CAN PASS THE URN, RESETTING THE COUNT WHEN PASSED OR STOLEN

PLAYERS CAN SHOOT 3 POINTERS FOR MORE SOULS OR DUNK FOR 4X
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Just played against a skilled Holliday player and got RAPED
Straight up spent the entire game getting lassoed from safety of my friends and family into enemy walker stomp and dying every time.
Even when i would play safe she would come for my ass with teleports and jump pads and drag me with every movement tech known to man and get me under their walkers. If every Holliday player was like this i would uninstall.
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>>568622881
Wouldn't had happened if you or your team had any CC
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>>568621125
silverchuds...
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>>568617392
no idea his fov makes stream unwatchable, certainly not in scrims since Seven is easily countered.
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>>568587379
>GRAVES GRAVES GRAVES
graves derangement syndrome, seven has been in the same state for far longer, way stronger and much easier yet at most you get 1 or 2 posts about him while graves gets spammed when she's OP, when she's dogshit, when she's gun, when she's spirit, and when she's finally fixed
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RETAAAARD RETARD RE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD RETARD.....
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>>568623053
>and much easier
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>>568623145
but enough about Yoshi
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>>568622849
oh my god....
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>>568620984
>>568621032
>>568621418
these 3 posters enjoy cocks up their asses btw
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>>568622983
Xhe had unstoppable sir....
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>>568623053
Both should die
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>>568623417
Then you wait until she nabs some other poor sod and murder her
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>>568623528
>Rescue beams you back after Holiday kidnaps you
Nothin personnel
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>>568616926
she's still OP but has been tuned down enough to the point that your average player wanting to abuse broken shit isn't going to put in the effort required and just stick with mcg/graves
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>>568623145
i say this after someone disagrees with me
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Why don't they just make the entire game 1 hero then it would be 50% winrate thereby the most balanced heroic mystical chump in the universe???
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>>568623476
>both should die
And mcginnis and ivy, and victor, broken braindead heroes
>dyanmo
Perfectly Balanced
>shiv
Fair and weak hero, needs buff
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>>568621352
nova rescue beam heroic aura web
rate me
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>>568623832
>tuned down
slap on the wrists at most while over compensating her with retarded damage buffs
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>>568623989
True, just remove all the abilities and different guns, give every single hero the same amount of stamina, m/s, hp, gun damage etc, also remove the boxes because they're luck slop.
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>>568624519
>>568624519
>>568624519
>>568624519
>>568624519
I have made a new thread.
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>>568564382
holy peak
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>>568580127
>In most sports the team who finishes last on the ladder gets first pick in next years player draft.



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