Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9360 - Eggman on a diet Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgThread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zaoaYrELaA Previous Zone: >>568812507
>STHG SHIP VOTE POLL<https://strawpoll.com/eJnvVJEOmnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvVJEOmnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvVJEOmnvSonamy currently in the lead
ITS REAL
Botted poll. Ignore.
>>568857793
>>568857995Sonurge lost Sonamy won
>Sonic collaborates with McLaren>McLaren wins F1>no recognition from either side>Sonic collaborates with PSG>PSG wins the UCL>no recognition from either side>Sonic collaborates with the Olympic Games>Milan 2026 happens>no recognition from either sideWhat the fuck they are doing
We've all danced through PINGASSnooping as usual-lyDon't know how long we've been promotedAs the Eggman's flossing.
Offer your methods of killing base Sonic and i will see if they will work or not
>>568858258ambush him with poison gas
>>568858258Which base Sonic?
>>568857940>38 participants>0 votes for Whispangle Why did it flop?
>>568858196
>>568858258Poisoning his chili dog while he's in the bathroom.
>>568858258Launch him straight at a planet the size of Jupiter completely covered in ocean depth level water
>>568858332He tried that, it didn't work.
>>568858454>82 choicesGuess they're just not in anyones top 5.
>>568858258Retro-active time bomb that feeds into itself until there is no more space-time continuum to feed off of.
>>568858454/sthg/ chuds hate cute gay couples and force hetslop
>>568857972Miles Prower ties him to Sonic, and they decided to name him Tails anyway.Belle only ties into Mr. Tinker who was never a real character.
>>568858258Make him fight Mario Mario
>>568858416Current>>568858332>>568858559Unlikely to work, he regularly traverses highly toxic and poisonous Chemical Plant and is fine with holding poisounous fish in Frontiers>>568858664Sonic tanked Time Eater's multiverse erasure and several other space-time related attacks, like Shadow's space-time bending attacks in Battle, won't work>>568858808Depends on how you look at it Sonic is faster, more skilled and stronger than Mario
>>568858258Teleport him onto the Subnautica planet.
Douge
>>568858647Thats pretty sad. 168 votes total so 168 times people clicked something other than whispangle.
>>568858258Kick him square in the nuts!
Nintendos website leak
>>568858454It's a forced meme where Tangle just feels bad next to Whisper over and over to cheer her up.>>568858774Belle evokes "Jingle Belles" like Christmas. Belle was a happy elf working on things with Tinker (Santa).
>>568858912Ooc garbage. Shadow doesn't hug.
>>568858893>Sonic tankes Time Eater's attackThats the best part about a self-looping time bomb. You can tank it forever but it's never going to stop exploding.
>>568858619That's not an ambush. That's placing it in one spot and hoping Sonic will run through it. >>568858619>>568858893SA1 Eggman successfully knocked out Sonic twice with sleeping gas. Just swap it with something lethal and it's over
>>568855290>Mecha Sonic Model No.29What happened to the other ~25 models?
>>568858258
>>568858954I ain't surprised.
>>568858893>poisonous Chemical PlantThere is no evidence the Chemical Plant liquid is poisonous. Also what does any of this have to do with what I said about him being launched on a Jupiterian Ocean Planet? Motherfucker might handle poison but not drowning on a world with no surface land and Jupiter's gravity. Not in Base anyway.
>>568859158Shadow avoided this
>>568859158>The laser beam that kills Sonic the Hedgehog>It literally only works on Sonic. No one else.
Jam, woo wooRebel, that's rightI'm on my ownI'll call my own shotsThank youGot my own mindI want to make my own decisionsWhen it has to do with my life, my lifeI wanna be the one in controlhttps://youtu.be/FMuoowyCkUU>>568858774Mr. Tinker is about as real as Maria.
Say something about kot or your sibling would die in their sleep tonight
>>568859015I can see the wooden helper/ elf design motif now I just don't think it's very strong.>>568859297Yeah but Shadow isn't named after Maria now is he?
>>568857940Sonamy wins again
>>568859325She has good taste in boys.
>>568859297She must have one gnarly power source.
>>568859325I like her hair :3
>>568858898He will just run on or under the water until he finds one of the islands or reaches Aurora, which he will do so quickly>>568858970Aren't strong enough to hurt him>>568859131Sleeping gas, not poisonous>>568859158Sonic is massively stronger and more durable than he was during 06, won't work anymore
>>568859156probably tossed out
>>568858196Got a real lol out of me.
>>568859445>>568858156
>>568859226His durability is on a literal higher dimension than he himself, and he is completely fine in space on numerous occasions, don't see how he wouldn't survive, also Boost on several occasions showed to be able to traverse space, so there is possible escape
Dr. Eggman has a new device to use on Sonic after his studying of draining Super Sonic from a previous encounter
Surge has touched Sonic more than Amy has
>>568859765>EncyclospeediaIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surge's pussy was made for the bbc (big blue cock)
>>568859437Maria did name Shadow
>>568859548>Sleeping gas, not poisonousStill a vapor which can affect his system so yeah poison gas would work
>>568859768In other news, Knuckles just got his PhD in pharmaceuticals and will be administering doses to his first patient, Shadow.
>>568859156>was going to be Space Sonic, a mk/type of Metal Sonic, instead of Rocket Metal, a model of Mecha Sonicwtf
>>568859909Sonurge is unpopular nobody likes it
Video games now cost $1,999.99
Wait a second, this isn't Sonic Heroes.This is anal sex.
>>568860170Sonic Heroes I think is fun but I like anal sex too~
>>568860078Guess it's time.
>>568860170How can you tell the difference?
>>568858454It has zero natural chemistry.
>>568859765>>568859861That's referring to these strange liquids, not the pink water
>>568858258Take Tails hostage at gunpoint and tell Sonic it's either going to be Tails getting new hole or Sonic taking deep dive in shallow pool, his choice.
>>568860272Well for starters anal can be actually enjoyable.
>>568860357The Entry in Encyclospeedia is about the Sonic 2 version. It's just Ian being wrong about things again.
>>568859565
>>568860403Sonic will just revive Tails with Chaos Emeralds
>>568860562Take myself hostage and tell Sonic some crazy guy is going to kill me if I don't kill Sonic.
The internet fucking lied to me. Girl farts do not smell good at all.
>>568860551
>>568860692sweet
>>568860462Dude, Ian sucks but we can see >>568859765 from the screenshots and bosses that it's the Mania version. Why do you lie?
>>568860736
>>568858258Picrel.
Hahaha anons, I am having sex with Tails!
>>568860932Sonic will just break out
>>568859445It's going to win even harder next year
>>568860935Cuckmy has to be the most accepted canon of Amy among fans
>>568860736You really need to give us context chief.
>>568855132
>>568859283kek
Sonurge lost
Dumping the deer with cum
>>568860843Me and my gf were getting frisky and she wanted some oral and I was really into it when she said she needed to fart and thought it would be hot if she did while I was eating her out.Never ever doing that again. Nearly barfed.
don't cope about sonamythey're besties!!!!!
fart jokes in sonic more we need
>suddenly cuck postingduo is mad
Cuckmyyyy
>>568858258I travel back in time and kill Naka and Ohshima before he can be created.
>>568858258break his legs Misery style
>>568861347SA1 had a fart joke, probably the first in the series.>>568859131
The fandom and outsiders know.
>>568861505Amy...
>>568861361He's always mad sonamy is superior nobody cares about his ships.
>>568861347One of Eggman's moves in Riders is farting on his enemies
>>568861345>lying to a 6 year oldWe're just making things up? Lying about what?
>>568861476Sonadow fujos are disgusting and vulgar defilers of art and beauty. This is how they defile Sonamy and they know they're on the chopping block because of 2027 so they're getting desperate
>>568861652Really?
>>568861552*Eggmanthere's a reason why he keeps Sonic alive
>>568861260Bump absolutely rapes her without even trying
>>568861306For like two weeks I was consumed by a sexual need for farts and some reason I broke out of it.Really weird that it happened but I can't complain, though yeah I think realizing it would suck a lot IRL probably put me off..
Sonic girls with hooves?
>>568861806Ye
>>568861930
>>568861776her main intention was not to save cheese and chocola, her main quest was to beat the shit out of Sonic and force him to marry her.>>568861793you don't have to be a sonadow fujo to not like amy. I get that you really like amy and want to self insert as Sonic, it's okay.
>>568861996"GET A LOAD OF THIS!"-Wario's cousin
is there canon sonic horse characters?
Sonic ships for this feeling?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D39anrm4cGo&list=RDD39anrm4cGo&start_radio=1
>>568862064>her main intention was not to save cheese and chocola,But it was. She even does so by the end.No need to make things up, Anon.
>>568861930clove, cassia, bump, lanolin, melty, that giraffe girl
Why are we pretending like Belle is not a focus stealer who decries the self contained and more action/comedic nature of the franchise?She contributes little. She could be replaced with an upgrade to the Miles Electric.
>>568862270all not canon
>>568862176https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Category:EquinesDoesn't seem like it
>>568859769So Amy should touch Surge and by the transitive properties Amy will have touched Sonic the most!
>>568862361Surge is ugly
>>568862064Sonadow fujos hate Amy because they heterosexuality and femininity. What that Sonadow fujo did in picrel is how she and others like her debase the artistic beauty of love between a man and a woman.
>>568862331>Why are we pretending like Belle is not a focus stealerBecause she isn't. Every time she has done anything relevant, it was supplementary to another main plot. When it wasn't, it was valid, like her being used in the Sage story because of her established connection to Metal back in issue 50.
>>568862361are you the zip folders anon?
>>568862361I hate these disgusting himejoshis and yurifags too. This is what Ian would do to Amy if he could get away with it.
>>568862338never reply to me again
>>568861080
>>568858258Step 1: put a platter of chili dogs laced with sleeping pills, laxavites, potassium cyanide and powdered milk near his running route Step 2 shoot him with tranquilizer darts repeatedly Step 3 cut his ankles, break his knees and bash his head in with a tire iron for good measure Step 4 tie his hands behind his back, chain his legs, put him into a sack full of rocks and throw it into a well with contaminated water Step 5 seal the wellStep 6 wait in case he loads a save file or other BS
>>568861930Ariem
>>568862612I am.
>>568862509The latest arc is all about her
>>568862928It's about Sage.
>>568859459kinda crazy how much engagement a single picture of an obscure cat girl can get
>>568863073How do the other character art pieces stack up to Honey?
>>568862231holy shit you're retarded. yes, she did save them at the end, but that wasn't why she did it. She saw that Sonic was with them in the newspaper >>568862457Rouge is plenty feminine, as is Cream. Both are straight, as far as we know. And Sonic doesn't love her, no matter how much you claim otherwise. He loves her like he loves Knuckles and Tails, like a friend.
>>568862920can I have your sage, fiona and reaction pics folders pretty please?
>>568857940Nobody likes sontails it's all just a couple tranny spammers
>>568863054It is about Belle and Sage Sonic is only there likely as a contractual reason.Belle does not even LIKE Sonic get rid of her.
>>568863238was the joke worth it?
>>568863368>archietards still coping.
>>568863214>And Sonic doesn't love her, no matter how much you claim otherwise. He loves her like he loves Knuckles and Tails, like a friend.This is so obviously bait that it's not even funny
>>568863416its just fanart, anon
>>568863258It has a sizable community.
>>568863238RIP
>>568863242>SageWhich one?Sorry, got no dedicated Fi folder and react pics are over 1GB so can't really upload 'em. Can do specific character ones maybe though.
Wait Belle hates Sonic?That bitch has no reason to hate the guy who keeps saving her ass.
>>568863432what does "bestie" mean to you?that's not what a man calls his potential girlfriendnot to mention when he's 18, she's going to be 15.
>>568863665No she doesn't.
>>568863238It's been like a decade and and a half and they're still mad about it.
>>568863778>ages
>>568863819She says she finds him annoying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tj3XlIIbtM
Every canon ship calls each other a "friend" or are described as friends
Urge to draw this but Sonic
>>568863432I have been brainwashed now and I believe Sonic Tails and Amy would all be lovers.But Tails is too into girls now to like Sonic.
>>568863778Point 1: Besite is a Flynnism. It's not what Sonic Team would make Sonic call AmyPoint 2: 18 and 15 is not a big age gap and in some parts of the U.S, it's protected by Romeo and Juliet laws
>>568863993men are not "friends" with girls unless they have no intention of fucking them
>>568863345>Belle does not even LIKE Sonic get rid of her.1. Yes she does.2. Why does everyone have to love Sonic?The story is about Sage and Belle is brought in to develop Sage within the context of the book since them both being Eggman daughters just logically makes sense to write something about.
>>568863879No she finds the Restoration annoying. She sees Sonic as insurance for dealing with Eggman, so she likes him.
>>568864106You're a virgin incel
>>568863635Sage (official) since I already got your sthg ocs one a few days back.>no dedicated fi folderthat's sad, I barely have any so I was hopeful you would have a lot, I really think she is cute. And about the reaction stuff, that's fine too, maybe other day i will ask for more specific characters. If you don't mind me, can you show your folder names again? I legit forgot what I have and don't have from you.
>>568864106Bait.
>>568863879Everyone does.
>>568864195says the guy spending his time posting on a Sonic thread. none of us are above the other
>>568864331Ooc panel.
>>568863073>>568863173>How do the other character art pieces stack up to Honey?i have no idea. and honestly. too lazy to look it up
>>568864159Wrong She provides no good reason to dislike the central character. She should shut up.
>>568863073All me
>>568864506She isn't even hating on Sonic here, schizo. She's just answering Sage's question and doesn't find his jokes funny.
The idw designs are all trash compared to sonic team characters.
>>568864756She should not find him annoying
>>568864331Surge is flirting with him
>>568864848Also yeah that is hating on him.
>>568863830Bronies are THAT fucking toxic. Also responsible for the "appeal to the modern audience" types.
>>568864331everybody around Sonic is so weak that any blows they land is just slapstick comedy to him
Tails & Amy's stories in Sonic Adventure are like the same story concept from opposite perspectives, yet they never meaningly interact. The major turning point for both characters happens when Tails flies Amy down from the Egg Carrier. This is the moment where Eggman launches the missile, and Tails realizes he's the only one who can stop it. This is the moment Amy realizes Sonic is always rescuing her, and she needs to be more independent, before resolving to help Birdie find their family. Tails races Eggman through Speed Highway, and defeats Eggman all by himself. Amy searches through Final Egg before finding the other birds on the Egg Carrier, and then destroys ZERO after Birdie was attacked. Tails becomes the hero of Station Square, without Sonic. Amy proves she can do things all on her own, without Sonic. WHY THE HECK DO TAILS & AMY NEVER MEANINGFULLY INTERACT IN THE WHOLE GAME!??!?
>>568864848Why not? Shadow finds him annoying. Belle has to love everything Sonic does ever? The first thing he did when they met was try to bust her open like a tin can.
>>568863830>>568864963mad about what? I'm a ponyfag idk what you're talking about
>>568865059Sonic Team thinks that Sonic's companions and occasional helpers should only exist to make him look more powerful and morally correct
>>568865059>WHY THE HECK DO TAILS & AMY NEVER MEANINGFULLY INTERACT IN THE WHOLE GAME!??!?Because there arcs are similar in that respect. If they were doing it together, it would undermine their individual growth by making it feel like something they only come to the conclusion of together and are only able to overcome their trials together.
>>568865272Sonic derangement syndrome.
>>568864769Counterpoint.IDW's character design starts to make sense when you realize Dodon Pa was the latest character made by ST a little after the comic started, so he was probably in development around when the other IDW characters were also being made and most likely influenced a lot of design conventions found in the comic's characters.
>>568865353>Because there arcs are similar in that respect.That's exactly why they SHOULD be meaningfully connect. They parallel each other directly, like Sonic & Blaze. Polar-opposites yet they reach the exact same conclusion of becoming more independent from Sonic, in order to be more equal to Sonic. The fact that they never interact directly even when Tails is literally the one who transports Amy away from the Egg Carrier as it crashes, and they have the SAME pivotal turning point in their stories immediately afterwards, is complete nonsense!!!
>>568865487I don't think that follows desu.
Al and Cal
>>568865209Shadow can fend for himself And is a hero as capable of Sonic
>>568865246Bronys (whether they believe it or not) were the catalyst for corpos thinking "Maybe this Boy brand can appeal to girls as well". Because the people who run businesses know nothing other than to count money, they couldn't see Bronys for the disgusting perverts they are. Sure some bought the toys but not for the same reasons as the target audience.With this flawed mindset, they thought it was possible to expand a consumer base by changing the product to "appeal to everyone" with G4 MLP being the prime example of this. And thus began a domino effect that would destroy western pop culture.And that's ignoring just how fucking awful your average brony is.
>>568865575No, this is just how writing works. You're trying to say things should be put together because the fruit loops are the same color but that defeats the point of fruit loops.As actual characters, Tails and Amy have little in common beyond being Sonic tagalongs that come into their own.putting them together for that specifically doesn't actually accomplish anything.>>568865659I fail to see how this is relevant.
>>56886410318 and 15 isn't big but people still raise a brow at it.
>>568865810>As actual characters, Tails and Amy have little in common beyond being Sonic tagalongs that come into their own.They are direct polar opposites of each other in every single way, with this one specific thing that is the absolute focal point of their whole existence being shared between them. Just like Sonic & Blaze, they parallel each other. So the fact the game itself never realizes or acknowledges this, is insane.
>>568865796Corpos trying and failing to match MLP's ability to capture and keep it's fanbase doesn't make it MLP's fault. I'll concede that the later seasons weren't as good, though. They definitely tried to appeal more to the older fanbase, but it also aged with it's original intended fanbase too since it lasted so long. Bronies aren't nearly as bad today, depending on what you mean. Most bronies were hated because of just how obnoxious they were trying to get everyone to watch and accept it. There's the normie fans and then the porn addicts that exist now. But this isn't the right place to really discuss pony given it's Sonic.
>>568865810>As actual characters, Tails and Amy have little in common beyond being Sonic tagalongs that come into their own.>putting them together for that specifically doesn't actually accomplish anything.It's almost as if they exist to fill roles in a story such as "sidekick" and "love interest".
>>5688658353 years isn't a big gap but I feel like when it comes to your teenage years it matters more. Generally an 18 year old would be more mature than a 15 year old... Normally...
>>568863242>>568864249200MB of cute AI loli. Picrel is me folders again but still a never-ending work in progress desu.https://litter.catbox.moe/lotnc3.zip
If you think men and women can be friends you're retarded. It never works out.
>>568865478It’s true
>>568865810Shadow has agency and is not reliant on Sonic's help
>>568866287Only if the female friend is unattractive.
>>568865969>Just like Sonic & BlazeI don't even agree but I don't think Sonic & Blaze have interesting interactions anyway. How are Amy and Tails direct opposites?
>>568866108>Bronies aren't nearly as bad today...Yes, yes they are. There's just far fewer of them.>hated because of just how obnoxious they were trying to get everyone to watch and accept it.Yes, just like how certain other groups want you to accept their pronouns, sexual preferences, and their preferred political party or you'll be labelled in some fashion and marked for cancellation.It's not hard to see the slippery slope that lead to this retardation. Also not hard to figure out where those bronies migrated to when they couldn't feel special for liking a girls show anymore.I'm so fucking glad Calarts murdered the MLP IP.
>>568866365It only works in friend groups where everyone is already dating each other and the social cost of cheating is too high. And even then people still fuck it up.
>>568866152I know right? Shocker.>>568866289It isn't. The idea that they should join up purely because of the fact they both were Sonic orbiters would be fueling that if anything.It devalues their individual motivation and relationships in favor of making it about the fact they are Sonic orbiters in of itself.>>568866291>not reliant on Sonic's helpYes he is though. also stop pretending agency determines a good character vs a bad one.
>>568866108NTA Sonicfags and horsefuckers have more common with each other than either of them would like to admit.
>>568866504now that's a massive leap. the more faggoty, pronoun shit was the normie part of the fandom. I would know, I straddled the line of both sides. The sex pests and perverts are frankly much more tolerable. But they were already those faggoty pronoun political types BEFORE they got into pony. G5 was pretty bad and is already dead. But there has been talks of reviving it in several ways. But I have no expectations of it being any good, if it did ever happen.
>>568866168I have a few questions just seeing this but is fine. From the non sonic stuff I assume you really like cute and funnies which is based. I'll save this in case I need something else from you, again thank you for the folders since I am making a big folder of sonic related stuff of my own too.
>>568866489Tails is introverted, Amy is extroverted. Tails is a victim of bullying, Amy is a genki kogal. Tails has Sonic's speed and abilities from the start as Player 2, but lacks Sonic's courage and confidence. Amy is just like Sonic in species and spirit and personality for the most part, but lacks his speed and abilities initially due to being the Damsel in Distress. Tails tinkers with technology, Amy is into fortune telling and mystical things. Their core archetypal roles are the direct inverse of each other, yet both are on equal level relative to Sonic by virtue of splitting Sonic's own traits in half between "capability" vs "confidence". Sonic himself is to Tails & Amy, as fighting "Eggman" & collecting 7 Emeralds are to Sonic & Blaze.
>>568866565Polyamory is slowly getting more popular. I can see the appeal.
>>568866895I still find this comic insanely hot by how amy is drawn and acts.
>>568866807>few questionsGo for it.
>>568866878>Tails is a victim of bullying, Amy is a genki kogal.I don't see the corerelation>Tails has Sonic's speed and abilities from the start as Player 2But he doesn't. He has to start mimicking Sonic to see that he can do anything of the sort.>Their core archetypal roles are the direct inverse of each other, I don't agree. They are more 2 different but similar roles rather than opposites. Both are Sonic companion characters but one is a young boy who wants to be like him and the other is a girl that wants to be with him.And Metal wants to BE him.
>>568865272Things were better when characters stayed like that.
>>568866669So you agree that they only function as “sidekick” and “love interest” yet deny the notion that ST only wants them to be Sonic orbiters??
>>568867236That’s how things have been for 2 decades and it’s sucked huge ass
Ooh!That's IT!I'M going to destrOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOy you
>>568867152>I don't see the corerelationYou don't see the correlation between a bullied loser and a popular cheerleader? >But he doesn't.But he DOES, that's how the game and its story are constructed. Tails and Amy at their core are polar opposite to each other, and parallel each other. So much so that even Nicky from the manga is proof of this. Nicky is the bullied loser who wants to be stronger and cooler, just like Tails is in-canon, and he exists opposite to Amy. Only difference being that unlike Tails, he "IS(?)" Sonic through magical split-personality transformation when his wish to be stronger takes over. Tails is the "kid" character, Amy is the "girl" character, yet both occupy directly parallel yet inverse roles in the series by their very nature. Tails' whole character is being an underdog, yet lots of Amy fans love -Amy- for being the underdog.
>>568867241I don't agree that they "only" function as that. I believe both can stand on their own, though I think Amy probably works better on her own than Tails since she has a stronger personality. Amy already tended to basically be on her own journey that just existed within the same general space as STK. Heroes and 06 are good examples.I don't think Sonic team wants them to only be that. I would more say Sonic Team doesn't believe either of them have the sauce to carry a game on their own.
Do you guys that won't shut up about redundancies look at the people in your lives as functions too?
>>568867571They’ve literally made Tails games before. The only reason they could think that is because of how THEY THEMSELVES butchered him after 06
>>568867414https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh2RTC4JqUM
>>568867548>You don't see the correlation between a bullied loser and a popular cheerleader?Amy isn't really a cheerleader though. Although there was some writing around her being that in beta, but it isn't really in her character at all. Amy doesn't really graduate into confident kogal until SA1. Prior to that, she is still pretty proactive, but she is still a scared girl that needs Sonic to rescue her. >But he DOES, that's how the game and its story are constructed.I don't have the patience for this Sparky.
>>568867747I look at them as If/Else statements, thankyouverymuch
they should add another Mario brotherand then anotherand then anotherand then choose the one that became the most popular and ignore the rest
>>568867571>I don't think Sonic team wants them to only be that.They have a damn funny way of showing it then. Actions speak louder than words and intentions
>>568867809>They’ve literally made Tails games beforeOne of which was a reskin of other game that didn't sell well and the other also didn't sell well.>>568867809>THEY THEMSELVES butchered him after 06???
>>568858258just stop giving him rings lolliterally collect every ring ever and/or figure out how they keep spawning and figure out a way to stop them
>>568867972Fuck you mean “???” play any game after 06 and observe how shit they made him
>>568868021He can just cyloop to generate rings. GG>>568867963Read the whole post, anon.
>>568867947heh.>The pink flaming homosexual Mario wins and Nintendo kills itself
>>568867571>though I think Amy probably works better on her own than Tails since she has a stronger personality.You mean, because Amy is more like Sonic in personality, while Tails' personality on the most surface level is basically just very smart, very quiet, and really polite, kind & gentle. So otherwise unoffensive, but also unassuming and more likely to fade into the background.
>>568867071Well...At first I was wondering why there was a Frontiers folder but then I realized that's probably just Sage pics for the most part. The noticed the amount of just girl and especially little girls folders but when I saw the, I believe, a bluearchive girl in the nonsonic folder, so I kinda figured why lol. Then the thing that stuck out the most to me was the artist folder with faces of real people, I guess you just like seeing the irl faces of cute sonic artists? as specific as that is to have.
>>568868110Anon, Tails is a little boy fox nerd however you slice it.
>Hero>Sidekick>Rival>Love Interest>Villain
>>568868286he did this only for his literal very next adventure to be shadow gens
>>568868252And he was still cool before 06, if you disagree you just hate him and I’m done talking to you
>>568868198It's not even really about being like Sonic. Amy is a proactive character who is usually personally motivated whereas Tails is more supportive.When Tails flies to Prison Island in SA2, it's to help Sonic. When Amy does it, it's to help Sonic but also to impress him and prove how capable she is.Amy wasn't conceived as a support character the way Tails which has it's pros and cons.
>>568868286Krack ignores this moment.
>>568867972>One of which was a reskin of other game that didn't sell wellWell it didn't release at all. Can you call it a reskin if the older concept didn't leave the development stage?>and the other also didn't sell well.To be fair these games were handheld spinoffs made in post-S3K/pre-SA1 time.>???NTA, they're probably referring to hoslack of playable appearances in 3D platformers and turning him into exposition kid.
>>568858258I got itdo the intro to sonic unleashedexcept instead of launching him planetside, shoot him into the sun
>multiple characters with similar personalities is bad!i thought you were shonen fans
>>568868449>And he was still cool before 06Tails' coolest moment is when we are appreciating his growth within the context of seeing him as the sidekick character.It's very "proud of your little brother" in terms of energy.
>>568868328Starline is the Knuckles glitch
>>568868551>every shonen is NarutoThe way Naruto's cast gets used like shit is the biggest criticism of the show next to ninjutsu turning into alien magic later on.
>>568868659Yes but he is just a knockoff Eggman at the end of the day...Cause Dr. Finnevitus.
>>568868241Yeah, pretty much. Not all loli but some of it is and that's fine by me.Artist girl is @peachsdmy, the rest is folders like ABT, JenHen, Yoto, stuff like that.
>>568868586It’s actually the moments where he has his own agency in the story such as SA2. Stripping those from him (starting with 06) is when he went to shit
>>568868659Even Paps conceded that Thrash would be better if they could use him
>>568859325she hits hard
But has Hony honeyed a penis?
>>568868889>It’s actually the moments where he has his own agency in the story such as SA2Again, all of that is within the context of him being a sidekick. It's "oh look, Tails leveled up and is taking more charge". It's not even really about agency so much as competence.But you can't really do that if Tails is the main character because then there's no contrast.You appreciate Tails coming up with the plan with the fake chaos emerald because it's useful to Sonic.Conversely Amy often gets overlooked because her specialty is rarely actually directly useful to Sonic, and when it is, people often dismiss it as "something anyone else coulda did".Again, pros and cons.
>>568868809>The way Naruto's cast gets used like shit is the biggest criticism of the show next to ninjutsu turning into alien magic later on.You might have a point about the manga but both the Naruto Anime and Videogames have hours and hours of content on characters like Kiba, Ino, or Temari and unlike Naruto Sonic is a game franchise.
>>568869250Why is Rouge voiced by a man in this
>>568869179>my literal fanfiction makes up for itlmaoIn it, they have to get rid of the core cast and all the character overlaps to do anything anyway so your point is moot.
>>568869171That’s just how you chose to see it. SA1 was the only strict “Tails growing into his own like his hero Sonic” narrative and even then it was shown through ways that differ from Sonic
>>568868837So official artists, gotcha. But I really don't know who peachsdmy is, Jenhen and yoto sounds familiar but not sure if I know them either.
you could make a game where all the characters are the different versions of Sonic and the only risk of overlap would be Archienic and Satam Sonic
>>568869596Movienic and Satamnic in the same entry would drive players insane
Sonic Adventure 2 but Sonic explodes in the capsule and Rouge falls in the lava.Literally nothing changes, they serve zero purpose after that point.In fact, all you need is Eggman, Amy and Shadow active for everything else to more or less play out the same.
>>568869574https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=yotomoe_%28artist%29
surge with short hair
>>568869524>That’s just how you chose to see it. SA1 was the only strict “Tails growing into his own like his hero Sonic” narrativeNo it wasn't though. Sonic Battle does it, Sonic Forces does it and Frontiers does it. Anyway, that's besides the point. SA2 was a "pay off of Tails' growth from the previous game" moment. It's still carried by the context of this being the pay off from the last game. You appreciate it because we saw Tails' arc in the game prior. a person just playing SA2 doesn't really see it as anything particular because they lack the context.>it was shown through ways that differ from SonicI'm not sure what you mean here. Most of Tails' story is just him tagging along and getting better at supporting Sonic, with his bossfight against Eggman at the end being the one moment of him being able to fight on his own.This is then later done again in SA2 where Sonic is presumed dead and Tails fights Eggman 1v1 again.It's not a retread exactly, but it's still riding the same arc wave and you cant just keep playing on that forever or people will get bored.
>EN sonic twitter with 5.5 million followers post Evan's art and it got 11k likes>JP sonic twitter with 310.2k followers post Honey art with now 17k likesGet fucked Evan
>>568868551Even shounen doesn't try to make all of them important. There is always the designated character with the personality, while all the others exist as parallels or just recyclable.
>>568869878Both Sonic and Shadow were needed to beat Final Hazard and use Chaos Control to restabalize the ARK. Rouge is the one that has access to info from the military about the ark crashing as well as the one that thinks to use the Master Emerald.Also if Rouge falls, the emerald shards fall in the molten energy so OOPS.More importantly, Tails and Amy probs don't have as much motivation to save the day while still grieving Sonic's death.
>>568869934Sonic's girlfriend (not Amy)
I was watching RuPaul's Drag Race and I think this outfit would work well for Surge.
>>568870262Would need other headphones, but yeah.
Shade
>>568869916Oh, that guy, I only have this pic saved from him.>last post in the booru was in 2023damn, does he still post elsewhere?
>>568870465What would Shade's role be in modern times?
>>568870262Anon... why are you watching a drag show?
>>568870648To enlighten my mind and open my horizons
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>568870534Twitter @Yotomoe1 and maybe Bluesky but I don't use that.
>>568870237actually, that artist ships her with Shadow
>>568870617Knuckles' parther and Co-guardian of MEPart time G.U.N operative (maybe with team dark)Empress of nocturnus clanOne of if not all of 3
>>568869981>Sonic Battle does it, Sonic Forces does it and Frontiers does it.They do not. Forces and Frontiers even highlight his REgression just to suck off Sonic’s status as the perfect greatest hero.>a person just playing SA2 doesn't really see it as anything particular because they lack the context.That’s exactly why it stands apart from the strict lens of Sonic himself
>>568870454
>>568870851Thank you anon.
>>568870123>Ultra-rare character getting official acknowledgment gets more attention.It's kinda sad that this is what consistantly unifies the fandom and gets it the most excited now-a-days .
>>568870982Why are you people obsessed with making characters GUN agents?
>>568870197>Both Sonic and Shadow were needed to beat Final Hazard and use Chaos Control to restabalize the ARK.Honestly one of them was capable of doing it alone, though if it was just Sonic then he'd probably be in Shadow's place.>Rouge is the one that has access to info from the military about the ark crashing as well as the one that thinks to use the Master Emerald.Nothing Eggman couldn't deduce soon enough.>Also if Rouge falls, the emerald shards fall in the molten energy so OOPS.The Master Emerald ultimately does nothing to stop the Biolizard, so it could be written out of the last episode with minimal changes.>More importantly, Tails and Amy probs don't have as much motivation to save the day while still grieving Sonic's death.That's a fair point, you definitely need to keep Amy's spirits up or Shadow won't lift a finger.
>>568871217Fuck you GUN is cool
>>568870617Isn't she already a Modern character?
>>568871157I've said this before but the inner fandom is excited about the "we're so back" and "sonic isn't afraid to use their IP" narrative but the content itself is stagnant as shit
>>568871217Shade is military so it only makes sense
>>568871217W-we're not obsessed...
Honey is so fucking back you guys, we're gonna get hun'd on.
>Amy starts making out with Tails in front of Sonic to get his attention and jealousy.>Sonic gets visibly angry and tells Amy to stop kissing him before he kicks her ass>Amy is confused>Sonic tells her if she ever kisses his bf again, he's going to forcefully have Shadow impregnate her
>>568870986>They do not. Forces and Frontiers even highlight his REgression just to suck off Sonic’s status as the perfect greatest hero.I don't know why you keep trying to make this about Sonic.Also yes they do. Sonic Forces has him going around infiltrating bases and gathering intel after feeling guilty for not being good enough to help Sonic in the opening fight.Battle has him feeling insecure over Emerl and feeling like he is weak and training.Frontiers is doing the same basic thing. Tails is pointing out how in previous games he fumbled more than he feels he should and giving himself crap about it.It's basically what they do with him because they need to reassert that context to make him doing anything have any satisfaction.>That’s exactly why it stands apart from the strict lens of Sonic himself?
>>568871304They are, but why constantly want characters part of their organization?>>568871471The Nocturnus Clan wasn't a military. Okay, Shade is a warrior. Doesn't mean she must join GUN.
>>568871157>>568871383This art has gotten more likes too kek Evan is genuinely shit
>>568871242>Honestly one of them was capable of doing it aloneThe game frames it as nothing of the sort and there isn't any real basis to say the opposite. Also Sonic just isn't as good at Chaos Control as Shadow. >Nothing Eggman couldn't deduce soon enough.They are on a time crunch and the ARK was moving things around to block em off. >The Master Emerald ultimately does nothing to stop the Biolizard, so it could be written out of the last episode with minimal changes.Anon, once you say "if you rewrite the story" your argument has no legs anymore.
>>568871157This fandom is still clouded with "HEY! I REMEMBER THAT THING!" than actual substance.
>>568871795For a scientist, Eggman really eats like shit.>Sage can't tell if the cake isa liekek
GUN was a bad addition to the franchise in the same way the Restoration is. It doesn't work well with how Sonic functions as a character.
>>568872002GUN is great to contrast against Sonic
>>568871910>Anon, once you say "if you rewrite the story" your argument has no legs anymore.NTA, Missing characters are going to do that to an extent regardless.
>>568871972It does say Happy Birthday on it.
>>568872002GUN, the Freedom Fighters, and the Restoration would all be fine if it wasn't for the continuous decision to make Sonic work alongside them
>>568872002GUN is good as an entity of order within the setting without turning Sonic and friends into super heroes like in Archie.
Sheep tits!
>>568872151>NTA, Missing characters are going to do that to an extent regardless.yeah but the ME here is you erasing a plot point established by the narrative.Could they have written the story without the ME? yes, but that isn't what we are discussing.
Shadouge is very cute.
>>568872016
>>568872201There is really no problem with Sonic working alongside those groups when there is a common goal. Making Sonic JOIN either of them is the character-ruining element.
>>568871795Pretty unfortunate too because it's nice art done by Evan. But hey, is it really a competition?https://youtu.be/ezLGTcdZU8Q
>>568872002>wants everything to be monotone, sterile, and devoid of vitality or substance
>>568871642>I don't know why you keep trying to make this about Sonic.Nigga, YOU are the one saying anything Tails does can only be viewed through a Sonic-centric lens. The fuck are you talking about??? Also, you just explained exactly how each of those games highlights Tails’ regression, which is exactly what I fucking said.
>>568872382I worded it differently since Sonic has never joined GUN or the Restoration but he's never really at odds with them either and effectively an asset to the restoration
>>568872061It's not even that, you needed a third antagonistic force in SA2 that was at odds with the Hero and Dark characters.
Sonicmon
>>568872061>>568872219GUN isn't supposed to be a contrast to Sonic, as seen in Shad05.>>568872403But enough about GUNfags, lol
>>568872587Why the fuck is Espio psychic and not fighting? He's a ninja.
>>568871217It's basically the new "my oc is shadow's brudda, he was born on the space colonoscopy ark"
Sonic working with Tower like Invincible and Cecil, would be interesting to explore
>>568872002You are objectively wrong. GUN gives Sonic and Eggman something to fight that is a third party. It was not only good but necessary because of the way SA2 is designed.The problem with the Restoration is it's directly associated with the main cast which tethers them to a central organization.Yeah, the writers SAY they aren't obligated to it, but in practice they act as though its their home base they are responsible for.GUN isn't like that. It gives humanity a faction and also fits in with the themes of military and tech overreach in the series.The Restoration by contrast is used to "explain how all the stuff that gets wrecked in previous adventures gets fixed" as if we needed that explained.>>568872474>Nigga, YOU are the one saying anything Tails does can only be viewed through a Sonic-centric lensNothing I said had anything to do with Sonic. You're the one insisting this.Please reread the post.
>>568872370I bet you this shit offends ABT lol.
>>568872002They have a good narrative purpose as a part of the setting, being "on the same side" but pursuing their own interests. This gives them flexibility to be used as allies or antagonists based on the story being tol, and lets them accentuate other plots where they themselves aren't a major player (their Huge Crisis battleship being hijacked by Eggman in Sonic Rush). They also have cool moments like the GUN Truck and giant robots.The Restoration has none of this.
>>568870812Who's that jobber?
>>568869919
>>568872710You started this whole thing by saying Tails’ best moments are only in the context of being Sonic’s sidekick >>568868586 >>568869171
>>568872495Sonic is at odds with GUN in SA2 itself and is cool wrecking their stuff in Rush and in Sonic channel stories and even Chaotix Casefiles.The Restoration is still written as the casts "home base" even if they aren't officially bound to it since no one is given it's volunteer based. it comes off was writing around the issue rather than respecting the characters and vibes of the series.
>>568872710How GUN is used in SA2 isn't how the organization is used in the rest of the series though.
Who among us would die tonight, hateful and all alone?
>>568872587>>568872679Ninjas are associated with the Dark and poison types actually.
the restoration and chris thorndyke's house are both the same sin
>>568872862Yes, but not because its a Sonic centric lens. It's about the contrast of that role, not the lens.
>>568872728Let him be offended.
>Casually starts a G.U.N discourse
>>568870987>>568870454This is the same artist that made Silver's not-boyfriend
>>568867236That's how we got Sonic as the only playable character in the late 200s and the 2010s. No thanks
>>568871157>>568871383I chalk it up to desperation for the pre-Generations status quo where Modern/Classic wasn't a branding divide that put characters in ghettos.
did't shade call earthlings and by extension humans a bunch of primitive savages
>>568873131Lanolin is begging to be raped.
>>568872587I could see him having Prankster.
>>568873172GUNfags are no different from any other characterfag.
>>568872909GUN hasn't really been used as much as they could/should after SA2. in Shad05, they are in fact presented as grey as opposed to strictly on the main casts' side.Rush has you run on a GUN Carrier and wreck there stuff.There was a video I watched about how 9/11 probs made it look bad to be critical of the military too much at the time as well, but the series has walked back from whitewashing them in recent years which is prefered.
>>568873283The Nocturnus look upon all non-Nocturnus as stupid goyim
I can't hold back anymore so with the last of my sanity I'll warn you, the next time I appear I'm going to unleash the full brunt of my chunnism on you guys
>>568873324>but the series has walked back from whitewashing them in recent years which is prefered.Have they been whitewashed? I don't think I noticed from how they went MIA during 2010s along with humans in general, and presumed-vaulted due to the "Eggman crippled them" explanation from Forces.
>>568873110Same shit. It’s never about Tails himself, it’s about Sonic’s sidekick, because apparently everything ever has to be about him according to you (and Sonic Team)
>>568873473>chunnismBased. Be as 2000's as possible.
>>568873296she is so mean that it would make her meaner
>>568871795Japanese franchise. Art from Japan feels more "real" than anything from the west.
>>568872587>Normal>not Normal/FairyYou rill pay for this.
>>568873638Yeah but she'd secretly love it.
>>568873503SA2's story more overtly presents them as villains whereas games like 06 and Chronicles kinda just have them as good.You could even argue ShtH presents them as a lot more sympathetic as well though I personally think they are presented as ignorant and making bad decisions enough to where it's still balanced.
Sonic is faster than the speed of like fuckiong everythingBut can he block?
Evan Stanley cannot write anything or draw human women.
>>568873695Sonic and Shadow should have the same type but with Shadow also being Dark
>>568873797
>>568873593Tails was made to be Sonic's sidekick. Everytime you praise him not being Sonic's sidekick is bringing attention to and relying on the fact he was Sonic's sidekick in order to make him feel cool.This is not a Sonic centric lens. The Tails-centric lens is just so heavily defined by his being a sidekick that you struggle to separate the two. And that's because most of Tails' best traits were designed with him being useful to Sonic in mind.
>>568873473gaia online energy
>>568873769GUN is probably in some nuanced moral grey area instead of being evil like Eggman's totalitarian Empire.
>>568871910Just to be clear, I meant you'd still get near-same results with half the cast. The ending should overall play out similarly with only a handful of key players. The essential characters are Eggman to inadvertently trigger the collision sequence and try to undo it, Amy to convince Shadow to help, and Shadow to stop the prototype and neutralize the ARK. One of these characters gone or otherwise unable to do their role and the end falls apart drastically.
>>568873797https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_Guard
we need another game where its the player vs gun
>>568873908SANDWICHTOOOOOOOOOOOS
>>568872710>The Restoration by contrast is used to "explain how all the stuff that gets wrecked in previous adventures gets fixed" as if we needed that explained.Uh, taxes?Honestly, an organization like Restoration isn't even bad, but the problem with it is that Sonic and his friends don't particularly care about dealing with their adventures aftermath.All's well that ends well, right?
what is Lanolin's tax policy
>>568873769I do agree with Shad05 also making them bullheaded enough to still be a problem (especially with the Commander's vendetta), but I see your point about 06 and Chronicles. Though, I don't mind games where GUN is unassuming or even in a mostly positive role when they don't have a reason to be obstructive and are mostly a background force. It helps give them flexibility as good-intentioned but heavy-handed.
>>568873952>Everytime you praise him not being Sonic's sidekick is bringing attention to and relying on the fact he was Sonic's sidekick in order to make him feel cool.It’s really not, not every single thing is about Sonic. Again you just chose to view it that way. You not being able to give Tails his own credit for anything absolutely is a Sonic-centric lens
>>568858258this time for sure
>>568857940>shipping characters that will literally never do anything even remotely romanticThe only canon ships are between Hedgehogs and humans ironically.
How come when Americans make Sonic media that's American-style there is discourse. But when Japanese people go out of their way to intentionally make something American-style like SA2, it gets a pass. It's not symmetrical expectations.
>>568873797he isn't tho
>>568873963They are, but in SA2 they were presented as less sympathetic.>>568874059again, GUN was introduced so both Sonic and Eggman in SA2 had someone to fight, because it wouldn't make sense for Eggman to be destroying his own robots. This is actually something about Gamma in SA1 and Metal in Episode Metal that makes no sense.So they had em fighting the human military who is morally questionable. It also helps sell Sonic as a rebel.stories where you fight GUN specifically are thus hard to create. Oddly enough I think Shadow is the one that actually makes the most sense to be fighting GUN compared to everyone else given his proximity to them.
i've been watching romance animes so I could report back to a sonamy fan, I don't know if he's still here. I've only found about 12 out of the 50+ i've seen where they actually end up together. In one they confess and then everyone loses their memories. Romance anime really loves dragging it out and sometimes the series ends without either character confessing.
>>568874347What kind of discourse? you mean like making sonic a horny dude or a whiny bitch? That's why you have discourse. When Sonic is blatantly acting differently from the games you will get discourse >>568874375We need more fans to understand that the writing is usually an excuse to have the gameplay make sense.
>>568874414
>>568874172100ccs of semen per week from every human male.
the day of destruction draws near, the enemy of the entire world heralded as the endbringer will rise and the first world disappears as the two once met will not reunite.
>>568874185>It’s really not, not every single thing is about Sonic.I didn't say it was about Sonic though.It's about Tails. The simple fact is so much of Tails goes back to Sonic. Frankly for as much shit people give Amy about being "one note and defined too much by her love of Sonic" she really doesn't have this issue as hard as Tails does.>You not being able to give Tails his own credit for anything absolutely is a Sonic-centric lensOkay then show me how to do it then.
>>568874347because America was the dominant culture. It's been slipping recently.
>>568874387It's a tiresome trope that wastes time. The good thing is that Sonic has been around for 35 years and will be around for many more so that makes it extremely difficult to use that trope without backlash from the fans
What are the top 5 strongest sonic characters? like I count the final bosses on it too
>>568874414I love Hissie the snake
>>568874375I feel like the problem with GUN is that they really only work with Shadow. Like the Restoration, Sonic doesn't really have a reason to care about them and thus they don't have a reason to show up in Sonic centric stories, even if the story is large in scope like Unleashed.
>>568874650Sonic. Shadow. Silver. Infinite. Solaris.
>>568874371He says the speed of light is no challenge to him immediately after that
>>568874387One thing a lot of authors learned the hard way is that the audience stops reading once the characters are finally together so they break them up for drama or drag it out. This only gets avoided in "next generation" scenarios when the main character's love life is now part of the world building instead of just a conflict.
>>568874597Acceptable.
>>568874767Wrong.
>>568874767is infinite that strong?
>>568874767Pretty sure the End is stronger than Infinite
>>568874650Dark Gaia, THE END, Chaos and Erazor Djinn can't truly 'die' so it has to be those four. Plus Sonic for kicking all their asses somehow.
I see, so this is the extent of your power. Just as I predicted.Did you not once think it strange?Did you never question it?Did you assume your victories were the results of your own efforts?Do not disappoint me, you are stronger than this, because you are.
>>568874776So Sonic should never be hit.>>568874940He always has a power up when he does it. Doesn't count.
>>568874387Every romance that is actually with the lead in every fiction ever has people get bored of or find some issue with the pairing if they get together too soon. Else they have em be on again off again.The only time this doesn't happen is if they are gay,Prove me wrong.
>>568874414This Xenoblade 2 crossover looks a bit funny.
>>568874613>Okay then show me how to do it then.Don’t say>The simple fact is so much of Tails goes back to Sonic.Tails beating Eggman or doing prison breaks or making fake emeralds or using his tech or anything else do not need to be attributed to Sonic at all whatsoever. You just choose to do so because you don’t respect him as his own character and think he’s hopeless without Sonic because Sonic is the greatest and best and always right and has a huge cock or whatever. This is exactly the trap Sega Sonic Team the fanbase etc have all fallen into and it’s why his character has become stale
I don't understand the recent blade of courage chapter honestly. So Sonic lost, then the chaos emerald decided "no, actually Sonic is so cool that I'm going to let him win" and then jumped from Eggman's hand to give Sonic power so that he could punch, I repeat PUNCH the villain to death after it is already established that if you touch him you get frozen? Am I following this?
Sonic is like a power fantasy character because he always wins and is always right.
>>568874929Sonic Team can't decide if the Sonic IP is for 6-yr-olds or 13-yr-olds
>>568874760They work best for Shadow but not exclusively. If you have em show up, it's would be for some variety or flavor like in Rush.It's not that you can't use them, it's that there is no inherent reason to.Though Forces should have been the time to use em again given that game was a world war.They have there use and applications though. They are a good addition.
>>568875087It’s a Sonic gary stu comic
>>568874650SolarisEgg WizardTime EaterThe EndDark Gaia
>>568875126Just take the IP back to its 2000s direction and tone. Kids don't kiddie stuff. They like dark and edgy stuff
Is Anakin Skywalker or Shadow the Hedgehog more>>568875190 cooler?
>>568875039>Tails beating Eggman or doing prison breaks or making fake emeralds or using his tech or anything else do not need to be attributed to Sonic at all whatsoever.If your goal is to list off meme feats like its a clout farming debate sure. When you are talking about actually using and writing a character though, these things don't mean anything by themselves.Why is Tails making a fake chaos emerald meaningful? Why is him beating Eggman meaningful?
>>568875307After the manga this is legitimately a possibility. Since when is Sonic Superman?
>>568874325truth
So is movie Sonic going to be a teenager forever? Time passing is directly acknowledged in the movies. They literally say how much time passed between the first and second, the third is stated to be in 2024. There is a child character and if she keeps showing up it will be impossible to ignore Sonic having arrested development.
>>568875413Bugs Bunny if he was flashing his ass at Elmer Fudd
>>568859325sexo
>>568875413I meant between Sonic and Elise and Shadow and maria.
>>568875274>They like dark and edgy stuffWhile they do, industries aren't really in-sync with that and still hold outdated standards and practices.
>>568875478Jeff Fowler said that Movie Sonic is now in his mid-to-late teens. So he's between 15-18 years old
>>568875184Eh.. frankly the GUN fleet in Rush could have been an Egg fleet or a HexaECO fleet and not much would have changed, lol. Did It being a ship owned by GUN really matter outside of some light worldbuilding?
>>568875307Thanks to the manga we now have to ask why he can't just do this in the godzilla crossover series
>>568875619Because Sonic doesn't give a fuck about people dying unless they're his friends.
>>568875325>why do accomplishments mean anything?Are you deadass rn
Movie Sonic is so much weaker than Manga Sonic
>>568875609Does it always need to? A story where Sonic and friends raid a GUN base for an emerald would be a valid setting in a future story.
>>568875087The Wind has successfully infatuated to Chaos Emeralds.
>>568875531Who's responsible for the outdated standards and practices? Geriatric men?
>>568875772>needed to turn super to lift a building sized enemy
>>568875490Sonic does it all the time>>568875528sorry anon there's only one human for Sonic and that's Eggman
I'm slowly dying...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpTcp4kvJYw
>>568874881He wishes he was
>>568875691Answer the question instead of being obstuse.Accomplishments don't actually mean anything by themselves unless your priority is farming feats for getting into characterfag arguments online.These are fictional characters in a story. Sonic destroying the 9millionth Eggman base has no weight to it.
>>568875870Do it faster.
Calling it now. The Sonic Godzilla crossover will result in an immediate teamup because Sonic and Godzilla are both mandated to never lose.
kids like boogers and trashmore fake booger and trash toys!!!
G.U.N. Commander hatefucks Shadow behind his wife's back
Sonic X makes more sense if you think Chris is a young Eggman
>>568875126They should makes a kids anime that still pander to adults externally.
>>568875963IF YOU'RE USING BLACK AND WHITE TEXT ON A BLACK AND WHITE BACKGROUND THEN YOU COLOR THE FUCKING TEXT
>>568875947don't be mean
Shadow will N E V E R look at another girl like this
>>568876045young eggman is too cute to be chris thorndyke
>>568875394Sonic's strength feels inconsistent with whatever big thing is in front of him. We got Knuckles for a reason. Sonic is speed and Knuckles is strength.
>>568876196>bluesky filenamewhy are kitfags such horrible people?
>>568876045That would be cool except we know Chris's mom is from the Fair family name along with Sam "Speed" Fair.
>>568875110
>>568876259>pic
GUNfags always ship GUN with any vaguely militaristic girl blobian, but BlobianXOrganization is boring; why don't they ever ship GUN with other organizations, like GUN X HexaECO or GUN x Restoration?HexaECO x Donpa Motors
>>568875942They show that he’s capable and competent, regardless of how that relates to his relationship with Sonic. It sets the precedent that he doesn’t need to be glued to Sonic to have meaning and purpose as a character
>>568876259Not anymore.>>568876334This was literally only done so that Sonic has a challenge that he can just barely beat and everyone can go HOLY COW SONIC STRONG!
>>568876045Chris's mom's dad is mentioned in one episode. She isn't descended from Gerald.
>>568875087Would you rather see Sonic get upstaged by OCs whom he then kisses the feet of, saying he learned a valuable lesson or that they're a better hero than he is?
>>568876345United Federation x Eggman Empire
>>568876306I can fix her...
>>568876178I'm saving them from a slow miserable existence.
>>568876256wrong image damn im retarded
>>568875780Shadow interacting with human characters outside of combat is always cute (no homo)
>>568876189
>>568876515Is it because he's tiny
>>568876496Doubtful
>>568876356>It sets the precedent that he doesn’t need to be glued to Sonic to have meaning and purpose as a characterBAM! There it is. You related it back to Sonic yourself in real time. Without that, what does him being able to plot device an emerald matter? Did you care that Tails was able to detect readings regarding tears in the space time continuum or did you just see that as technobabble? We know that Tails is competent and capable. So is every other character though.Being capable and competent doesn't mean anything by itself.This is why Amyfags try to protect how incapable Amy was in the classics because her becoming more capable overtime is important to their satisfaction with the character's narrative.I don't get why Tailsfags do the opposite desu.
>>568876256Chris had a Denzel Crocker transformation, obviously.
>>568875816No, GUN would just let Sonic borrow the Emerald and Sonic would give it back to them when he's done. Sonic is friends with the president and the president is friends with the GUN commander.The only reason Sonic raided the GUN ship in Rush was because the Eggmen took it over.
>>568876468The main supporting cast has been doing that to Sonic in the games basically forever
>>568876045i've always hated this dumb theory
reminder that in japanese Sonic's catchphrase is "leave it to me" characters who have that phrase in their media tend to be reliable main characters who always manage to achieve what's seemingly impossible while being a bit humble still, portrayed as absurdly capable, strong, kind and yet very much approachable. Kinda like harem leads back in the day before the Kiritos, Suburus, Kazumas and Onee-samas of the modern day.If you look at Sonic from that perspective suddenly his borderline mary sue like power and accomplishments make sense, the quick tempered, smug, arrogant, cocky side of him was thought up to appeal to westerners as that's how he tends to be portrayed in most western written media that takes the story semi seriously like Prime, Lost World, Chronicles, the archie and fleetway comics and season 3 of Xbasically if you want a flawed Sonic you need a westener, if you want a mary sue sonic who never fails ever you need a nip
>>568876345Isn't HexaECO just some green energy organization?
>>568876507C'mon, don't be like that
For the last three days you guys have been talking about the actual mainline Sonic canon what happened
>>568876736Agree with that, tho.. Is there and actual source of it being Eggman controlled?
>>568874347Japanese people were making sonic American-style since the very first game. All SA2 did was shift it to more contemporary style. It still was unmistakeably Japanese though. SA2 even more so. It's kinda like when Americans try to make anime-like shows, you get something like Teen Titans.American made American-style Sonic stops being westaboo and becomes straight up typical slop. It's like giving the fans of Metal Gear Tom Clancey or something. Or fans of Castlevania the old Universal monster movies.
>>568876736>No, GUN would just let Sonic borrow the EmeraldGUN=/=the President. Also the GUN Commander is still bound to enforcing protocol. Sonic also isn't the type to ask for help. He would just go take the emerald lol.
>>568876786>smug, arrogant, cocky side of him was thought up to appeal to westerners as that's how he tends to be portrayed in most western written media that takes the story semi seriously like Prime,>Primeyou lost me
>>568876859so what you're saying as usual, America is the problem? You do realize that when America goes down Japan will be taken in by China, right? Cool it with the anti americanism already it doesn't make you suddenly cool to shit on america like everybody else
Kill westies
>>568876786Shit. I'm genuinely not sure I want Sonic to be 100% nip if he's just going to be hedgehog Superman.
>>568876787>HHLewd.
>>568876812Which isn't a good thing
>>568876807Gimmi another hour to get drunker and i'll change my tone
>>568877058why
Which Sonic characters would taste best if you french kissed them?
>>568877181Rouge is most well-put together
>>568877081>Archie imagePost discarded.
>>568877181
>>568876656> Being capable and competent doesn't mean anything by itself.Yes it does, because recent games have reverted him to the opposite FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING SONIC LOOK BETTER BY COMPARISON. I only talk about how he relates to Sonic because that’s what EVERYONE else including you and Sonic Team do. I don’t need to suck Sonic off when Tails does something, that’s your prerogative
>>568877081Kys archietard
>>568877141oh ok
>>568877081i don't know why people pretend sonic had good characterization in archie
>>568877117Handsex
>>568877254>>568877282Why would anyone want Sonic to be a gary stu?
>>568877384I mean he did
>>568876821IDK, but why would Eggman(Nega) be the boss of Huge Crisis if he wasn't in control of the fleet? >>568876902Do you think the GUN Commander would try to fight Sonic for the Emerald or do you think he would just let Sonic have it to avoid damages?
>>568877279>FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING SONIC LOOK BETTER BY COMPARISON1. You're making it about Sonic again and using a Sonic centric lens while accusing others of doing so.2. How does that work? Sonic doesn't need Tails specifically to look bad to look good by comparison. I can't help but feel this is your little brother syndrome kicking in.>I only talk about how he relates to Sonic because that’s what EVERYONE else including you and Sonic Team do.No, you do it because deep down you know that Tails can only appear cool if Sonic is involved in some capacity.>I don’t need to suck Sonic off when Tails does something, that’s your prerogativeNo one said this but you though.
>>568877396Why are you following this franchise when you hate the MC?
>>568877384I just like the image anon. I didn't read Archie.
>>568877275Maria's mouth probably tastes like Pepto-Bismol and Gatorade
>>568877429Archienic was a douchebag
>>568877429He's just a shittier version of the cocky teen protagonist who never got to finish a single fucking character arc
>>568877394Blue board Anon, damn.
>>568877028No, I'm saying that if I wanted Looney Tunes, I'd watch Looney Tunes. I don't want Sonic to be Looney Tunes, capisce?That said, Sonic with Chinese influence would be pretty neat regardless. Storybook revival fucking when?
>>568877396>Why would anyone want Sonic to be Sonic?Kys archietard
>>568877394
>>568877384It's just ragebait. They know Archie is the antithesis of what the series should be.
>>568877606>Sonic with Chinese influence would be pretty neat regardless.I agree.In fact, we need a bigger WuWa collaboration.
>>568877540
Man these threads are annoying these days, i think i regret ever coming back
>>568877396Mario is such a boring character honestly. What's his personality again? Yelling "Wahoo" and jumping around? He's been doing the exact same shit for 40 years because Nintendo literally refuses to allow him to develop beyond a simplistic mascot. Nintendo needs to give Mario some actual character development. Give him some internal conflict, some character flaws, have him struggle with the moral implications of his actions. Show us what he's thinking. Make him more relatable. Mario as a character has been stagnant for decades and it's embarrassing how gatekeeping corporate drone purists will defend this.
Which character is a gorilla in a fucking coupe that's finna pull up to the zoo?
Sonic's characterization was at its best in Crashdow
archie sonic is a man whore who treats his friends like crap, I don't like him at all, only post genesis wave sonic is tolerable
>>568877434>Do you think the GUN Commander would try to fight Sonic for the Emerald or do you think he would just let Sonic have it to avoid damages?Sonic doesn't really ask questions so it would more be like Sonic does his thing and they have to respond. GUN Commander might go "If he would just talk to us, this could go so much smoother" or whatever.Again Sonic doesn't really work with organizations or follow protocols. He just does his thing.Not that he would never talk with the GUN commander and work together but it wouldn't be something it stresses to much.
>>568877527>Sonic doesn't need Tails specifically to look bad to look good by comparison.He doesn’t, but Sonic Team clearly thinks so>Tails can only appear cool if Sonic is involved in some capacity.That would be you, trying to make all the things he does about Sonic when they’re not. That is sucking off Sonic
>>568877429He was obnoxious as fuck and a huge simp. That's what you people want out of Sonic?
>>568877665But can any of these DBSlop transformations take on NEGA HYPER ULTRA Sonic?
>>568876696>had it perfect the first time>it's been nothing but downhill ever since
>>568877759Based pasta I kek'd
>>568877752last thread was honestly pretty nice before namefag drama occurred out of nowhere
Reminder, the last time Sonic was widely celebrated was him trying to save Pikachu in smash bros that one time even slowing down to try and help him only to get blasted for it.
>>568877773What?
>>568877989Actually that would be movie 3
>>568876696>SHADOW DON'T MAKE ME UPSET
>>568877737
>>568877824>He doesn’t, but Sonic Team clearly thinks soAnd your evidence for this is what exactly?>>568877824>That would be you, trying to make all the things he does about Sonic when they’re not. That is sucking off SonicI haven't been though. You have. I said that accomplishments by themselves are meaningless. Not just for Tails but everyone.So explain to me what makes anything Tails has done meaningful without making it tie back to Sonic.
>>568877883all of them lose to Super Sonic 100
>>568877818You can tell Archie was not written with women in mind because Archienic is the worst love interest imaginable
>>568877872Reminder that Archie Shadow didn't act like this until Ian started writing.
>>568878092Funny, this actually makes him look like a hedgehog
>>568877929>people swear this was Shadow's best characterization >the whole show he's just fighting with Sonic and being an obtrusive pain in the ass yeah no, prime shadow was fucking annoying but even more so because he only was around because they had to make Sonic ridiculously flawed for his attitude to work
>>568878049>And your evidence for this is what exactly?Every game after 06>I said that accomplishments by themselves are meaninglessYou can say this all you want but it’s not true. Anything a character does has meaning, that’s why they’re doing it
Shadow when u scare him
>>568878164>Sonic the HedgehogWhat a crazy idea!
>>568877531Because the games are still fun. I like going fast. I don't have to like Sonic's characterization to like his gameplay.
>>568878321Why does he just take itBattered housewife
>>568878246>Every game after 06This doesn't answer my question. Why do you think Sonic Team thinks this? >You can say this all you want but it’s not true. Anything a character does has meaning, that’s why they’re doing itClearly you don't believe this since you don't value him talking about tears in the spacetime continuum.
>>568878152reminder that for some godforsaken reason people were okay with Shadow being a GUN cunt and willing to kill off Blaze's world just so Rouge could have her sol emeralds cuz pretty, Treasure Team Tango was such a shit arc not only because of them but also because of Fang, Bean and Bark''s dumbasses, the fact that athe problem is solved just be Blaze effectively getting so fed up she rage quits the final boss and turns her flames up so high she starts just melting shit is so ass it's also the first time Blaze isn't treated as a jobber in archie, think about that, meanwhile Shadow solos black death after a maria speech
Prime Shadow is bootleg Knuckles at best, bootleg Sally at worst
>>568878321Not a Sonadow fujo but that moment when Nine implies he'a going to kill Sonic and Shadow gets pissed off was kino
If you wiped Shadow's memory entirely including Maria do you think he'd be upset by what he looks like in the mirror
>>568878192It's not even about Sonic being flawed. It's about him acting like a doofus goober.If Sonic was himself and shattered the prism and steadfastly resolved to fix the world and Shadow opposed him and even beat him for his tech, I wouldn't care. But they mutilated Sonic's character into this toddler child who is an idiot that needs Shadow to discipline him. it's cringe. Just have them fight because their ways of doing things conflicts.Shadow ends up being wrong anyway so being flawed isn't a factor.
>>568878021valid, the ultimate dap up scene was fire just because fowler said he based it off the moment you defeat the final hazard, it's a pity they couldn't use the biolizard something about how they had to choose between him and super sonic vs super shadow
>>568878535He'd look like just any other hedgehog. Why would that make him upset?
>>568878505Shadow's opinion on Sonic is "get out of my face" not "I wish you were dead"
>>568878584Shadow doesn't look just like any other hedgehog, the black and red is specifically from Black Doom's influence
>>568877606Black Knight was English/Welsh folkloreSecret Rings was Arab/Persian folkloreImagine a storybook game with Aztec, Mayan, or Japanese folklore. That would be so cool.
>>568878671You say that like there aren't black furred cats or something. He'd just be an oddly colored hedgehog. Only the eyes would really throw him off, but ultimately who would give a shit?
>>568878682rouge: i never want to be a momshadougefags: so anyway here's rouge with two children
>>568878375First of all, he stops being playable after 06, that inherently decreases his value. Second, he stops being involved in any action period, he becomes a plot device off to the side playing with his iPad. Not to mention the worst of it in Forces which reverts him fully back to a sniveling coward who’s completely useless without Sonic there. The narrative opportunity was there for him to take a lead role in the resistance but Sonic Team literally preferred him to “lose it” and become wholly incompetent and unimportant. But you probably love that game because of Classic Sonic literally being his savior
It's always the black sonic twitter fags trying to start bullshit
Tikal's Japanese voice
>>568878792Well that's exactly what I'm asking, being thrown off by it is basically being upset. I don't think Shadow loves what he looks like.
>>568878797>believing women have a clue what they wantEvery Rouge ship is garbage because she's a greedy whore, but I'm just sayin.
>>568878896Wow, she played Tikal in Sonic X?
Which Sonic characters would taste best if you sucked them off?
>>568878797I don't mind Shadouge but Shadougefags whole understanding of the characters seems to be "the games and sonic team are wrong, archie is correct except for when it isn't and sonic 06 is the most important interaction ever"
>>568878897If he had no depressing memories to go with it then what would be his problem with it? He just looks like a hedgehog.
Which Sonic characters would try basashi ice cream?
>>568857972So what you’re fucking telling me is that this is the result of a tailsfag self inserted getting mad about her not being a love interest for him? What the fuck?
>>568878797*three, Silver's there
>>568879078Because other characters clearly think Shadow looks scary or creepy.
>>568879034The problem is that Sonic Team contradicts themselves. They say one thing, then have characters say another. If you simply exclude 06 and Heroes, then everything people think about the worthless whore and her relationship with Shadow is correct, and Shadow would sooner rescue a kitten than that useless bitch unless she's holding a chaos emerald for him to use.
>>568879127Yuuta
I wish Jet Black Hedgehog showed more of what Shadow was like immediately after waking up. Was he able to walk and talk perfectly once he woke up or did it take a bit of practice? I like the thought of Shadow being wobbly and wide-eyed like a fawn for the first couple of days. Surely it takes a bit of getting used to even if you have knowledge on how to do it, the muscles haven't been used before.
>>568860692Arle looks too much like herself, she would’ve been redesigned into having a simple ponytail and wearing medieval armor with the joke that it’s too heavy/she can’t see/she uses it like a turtle.
You guys aren't blue
>>568879205He literally looks like Sonic, why do they think he's creepy?
>>568878967Yeah, the Japs take voice acting really serious for some reason.
Hey waiter, I will just have a glass of... energy.
>>568879332why does that sound familiar
>>568879416Shadow canonically doesn't like that
>>568879427*pees on you*
>>568863173If you mean other classics characters, last I saw Vector was at around 6-7k
>>568879326Honestly Shadow is an asshole without any of the appeal of being an asshole. He's literally just Vegeta but boring.>>568879521Who gives a fuck? It's a big world. The loser can just fuck off somewhere else and let Sonic save the world like he's going to no matter what anyway.
>>568878806>First of all, he stops being playable after 06, that inherently decreases his value.You still aren't answering my question. Why do you believe any of that is because they think they need "to put Tails down to make Sonic look cool by comparison"?> he becomes a plot device off to the side playing with his iPad.He always was a plot device though. Sonic himself is a plot device.Everyone stopped being playable after 06. Most characters didn't even have the privilege of showing up like Tails did.>The narrative opportunity was there for him to take a lead role in the resistanceThat would be relegating him to a plot device rather than giving him an actual arc and story though. Can't win.> but Sonic Team literally preferred him to “lose it” and become wholly incompetent and unimportant.Tails is objectively more important than every other Sonic friend not named Shadow in Forces. He does more and gets more screen time and narrative focus.He hacks into Eggman's systems and discovers how the Phantom Ruby works and hat it is being powered by the death egg and realizes Rookie's connection to the prototype and comes up with the plan for him to go and turn the sun off.What do Amy, Knuckles, Rouge and Shadow do by comparison? Shadow's contribution to the story is getting his ass handed to him to explain why he isn't involved for most of the plot. Silver's is getting his ass handed to him to raise the threat of infinite. Amy is on comms duty and Knuckles leads the resistance but his most major contribution in that respect is Operation Big Wave which goes to shit.Rouge is just liaison for Shadow and the resistance and does a bit of spying which is okay.Frankly I think its time you just admit you're miffed Tails isn't the protagonist instead of Sonic.
>>568879528
>>568878679I thought Arthurian Legends were Fr*nch?>Aztec, Mayan, or Japanese folklorePersonally, I'd prefer Greek (Iliad and Odyssey) or Mesapotamian (Epic of Gilgamesh).Also chink one would be extremely funny, whether it would be Three Kingdoms or Journey to the West based.
>>568879128Dunno if I would go that far.
Why does westshit make Sonic a nature nut who hates tech? Bro just wants to run.
>>568879609You don't understand Shadow if you think he's just an asshole. He's also the second most popular character besides Sonic.
>>568879250Shadow and Rouge are not friends. That isn't the same thing as Shadow and Rouge disliking each other. When Rouge wants to hang out with someone she's more likely going to spend time with Sonic or Amy unironically. Shadow is who she can trust in life or death situations. They are important to each other but that's not friendship. If Shadow and Rouge never needed each other again that would be the end of it.
>>568879840I don't give a fuck what his motivation is. He's still a jobbing asshole. He shows up, says he's the ultimate lifeform, jobs, and leaves. He's shit. Sonic is a gary stu, Tails might as well die, Amy is about as interesting as drying paint. Shit this whole franchise sucks beyond the gameplay. All the characters are flat or completely unlikeable.
>>568879910Shadow doesn't have the capacity to care about anyone that isn't Maria. He's permanently stuck both literally and figuratively and mentally in arrested development. But yes, I would say he's simply using Rouge.
>>568879761Fans of the comics will literally call things from the games OOC
>>568879613I understand you now. You’d rather have him repeat his arc over and over just for the sake of having an arc than just keeping his resulting characterization and going with it. Sorry but I don’t accept that. What’s the point of an arc if it doesn’t stick? I don’t need to constantly see him doubting himself only to learn the same lesson through Sonic again and again, that’s boring. Also it must be very easy to just call everyone a plot device when it’s clear Sonic’s impact is the only one that matters (which is lame)
Shadow doesn't really have friends he refuses to let anyone be his friend because that spot is reserved for Maria and Maria alone, there are those who do either view Shadow like that or at least an associate but that's as far as it will go, crossworlds reinforces this, IDW reinforces this, Speed simulator reinforces this, I wish people would accept it already, not everybody has to be part of the dweeb patrol, it's like how Surge and Kit aren't anyone's friends but each other while being associates with others, through I still don't like the others associating with them at all with non hostile intent after she flat out showed she's a traitor and tried to kill Sonic, you'd think Amy, Tails and Blaze would be on guard against them but nope Tails just awkwardly tries to make conversation and Amy and Blaze treat Surge like she's one the retard friend who is good but needs to be reminded not to go too hard on certain things. It's ridiculous especially because until Starline comes back into the fore we'll never know the extent of how much of their emotions and actions are his brainwashing and their genuine thoughts and feelings we just don't know! and until we do I do not see them as characters I do not empathize or sympathize with them
>>568879959Seething Archie nigger. It died 10 years ago move on.
>>568880292I already said Shadow is an asshole suffering from arrested development anon.
>>568880292I agree but holy run-on sentence use a period
>>568870982Something tells me even if they burry the hatchet, Knuckles wouldn’t like the idea of another echidna from a different clan encroaching on the emerald.
>>568880374Why does everyone keep mentioning Archie? I've never read it. I'm basing my views on the games. Is Sonic not a gary stu in Archie? Isn't he still the main character? So I'd assume he still is, in fact, a Gary Stu.
>>568880389Shadow's arrested development is cute
>>568880094the crossover flat out had him and Batman say that they aren't friends with anyone they simply use others to complete their objectives and that's it. Batman says he uses the league just like Shadow uses Sonic, Rouge or even Eggman for his ends, too and those ends are protecting the world those they cared about cared about, it's like that guy from Bleach saying he wants to protect the world his friend loved and the guy next to him realizing he never said anything about what he feels about the world , of course people got mad at that from the Batman side because to them that means Bruce cares nothing for the league, or for his so called bat family the robins, the batgirls, the batwoman, catwoman, alfred, etc, by the way did you know alfred's been dead in batman comics for 7 years now, I never knew that, that's crazy apparently his fucking niece is gonna take his job now they announced last week.
>>568879705The characters of Arthurian legend are English, Celtic, and French but the legends themselves were compiled by French authorsEpic of Gilgamesh + Sonic sounds rad as well
>>568880509I just don't see the point of his character showing up.
>>568880582Jesus that all sounds awful
>>568880582Batman is full of shit. He's literally friends with multiple people, unlike Shitdow.
Sonic has some real estate under his tail in this scene, and this is pretty close to how twink ass actually looks
>>568880626The point is to make my pussy wet.
>>568880773Krack...
>>568880626you could say that for any fucking character besides Sonic and do we really need to go through yet another SONICS SHITTY FRIENDS arc? I know this place is the definition of insanity but surely SURELY that's the one road we need not travel once again, right >>568880509it pigeon holes him just like Ariem being stuck at the revire after it shut down, just like Knuckles being stuck on Angel Island after Eggman and Rouge stopped stealing the Master Emerald, just like Shadow never doing anything after SA2, just like Omega being nothing but a wandering kill bot, just like classic era characters Fang, Mighty, Ray, Honey, Bean, Berk, Tirp never appearing again, just like IDW characters AND JUST LIKE THE A FUC
>>568880094>>568879910I wouldn't say that. They obviously care about eachother to some degree. Just not enough that they are like super close buddies or whatever.
>>568880582Bats not being best friends with Clark at the very least is a gross mischaracterization.
>>568880292I feel like Tails is influenced enough by Sonic to give Surge a chance in the same way that Sonic does but Amy trying to be her friend is outright character assassination. She would NEVER forgive that shit. Amy outright hates anyone who tries to hurt Sonic.
>>568880196>You’d rather have him repeat his arc over and over just for the sake of having an arcNo stupid. I am saying that this is already what is happening with Tails because of the way Tails was conceived as a character, and that blaming Sonic and refusing to recognize the issues with tails as a character will get you nowhere.I'm not telling you what ought to be. I am telling you what is and why.
>>568880926Yes we do. Sonic's shitty friends literally serve no purpose. They exist SOLELY to...wait I can't even think of a reason they exist. They have no interesting interactions, they don't even help Sonic 90% of the time. What's the point?>>568880994Absolutely not. If Rouge died Shadow would be inconvenienced. For him it would be like a coffee machine breaking.
>>568881117That’s just a lack of creativity on yours and Sonic Team’s part
>>568880994If Rouge died Shadow would probably close his eyes for 2 seconds and then never mention her again
>>568880196>You’d rather have him repeat his arc over and over just for the sake of having an arcNo stupid. I am saying that this is already what is happening with Tails because of the way Tails was conceived as a character, and that blaming Sonic and refusing to recognize the issues with tails as a character will get you nowhere.I'm not telling you what ought to be. I am telling you what is and why. The fact Tails is reliant on arcs at all or else we do not value the tings he does is an issue with Tails as a character.Characters like Shadow, Knuckles, Amy and Silver have things that they do or associated with them that makes us give a shit beyond just how many memefeats or whose pet character we can say they are better than but Tails doesn't. His main contribution is his intellect which is mainly used to assist with tech support and exposition. This was true in SA2 as well. It isn't new and it didn't come out of nowhere.
>>568881076Do they even know Surge attacked Sonic on the ship? Sonic probably didn't dime them out because Sonic tends not to tell others things he feels he doesn't need to and if we're going by speed simulator the only one who hates Surge still is Whisper even Tangle is more cordial
>>568877752You can leave any time.
>>568881298>implying Shadow would even react to this useless whore's death
>>568873172Kek she isn’t even a fucking GUN character
>>568857940Did my part
reminder, ken penders would of lost on appeal meaning sega is ran by cowards
>>568881076>Amy trying to be her friend is outright character assassination. She would NEVER forgive that shit. Amy outright hates anyone who tries to hurt Sonic.This is just not true. Amy is friends with Shadow, Silver and even Blaze and Gamma originally fought Sonic as well but stayed his friend.Amy loves Sonic but not to the point where she has no personal opinions on things or a mind of her own.
>>568880094He is permanently stuck? Uhh bros? Retconned...?
>>568881506
>>568881582>Amy is friends with ShadowShadow cares more about this cup of coffee than he does about any character. You are full of shit.
>>568880994I think that the thing with Shadow and Rouge is that they understand each other way too much to get too close.Shadow got too much baggage for Rouge, Rouge is too selfish for Shadow. Both are attracted to people that are more pure, even if they scoff at them.
>>568881298Sure but it doesn't mean it didn't affect him or he didn't care.Would it affect him as much as shiptards or TeamDarkfags that reference freaking SMBZ would have you think? Doubtful but it would probably be enough to make him someone nettled.
Shadow is friendless like me
>>568881686uuuh bro your visual novel plot...?
>>568881693Sonic Team didn't think about this that hard, or at all. Shadow is using Rouge. Rouge is using Shadow. They are not friends. Shadow doesn't have friends, and Rouge is a whore.
>>568881764I'll be your friend.
>>568881686Anon, Amy sees herself as friends with Shadow regardless of how much Shadow does.>>568881693That's fair. I'd describe it more as both of them appreciate that they keep things more professional and that is part of what they like about eachother. I think of em as good work colleagues.
>>568881339> Characters like Shadow, Knuckles, Amy and Silver have things that they do or associated with them that makes us give a shit beyond just how many memefeats or whose pet character we can say they are better than but Tails doesn't. This is fucking hilarious. If you can claim Tails relies on his connection to Sonic you can 100% do the same with all of those characters as well. It’s clear you just hate Tails and don’t want to give him anything
>>568881582>This is just not true.Okay, Yuji Naka.
>>568881812The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog isn't canon because no one ages.>>568881901Is Amy just delusional about all male hedgehogs?
I don't care. Shadow likes Rouge. Rouge likes Shadow. End of discussion.
>>568879910An IDW artist posted revisions of a page that showed Rouge getting annoyed with Shadow brushing her off (to relax together in an outdoor cafe) in the draft version which was changed to her looking nonchalant about it in the final version. I think I see what you mean.
>>568880582>him and Batman say that they aren't friends with anyone Replace Batman and Catwoman with Shadow and Rouge and this panel is IC.
>>568881923>you just hate Tails and don’t want to give him anythinghe's just like me frfr ong
>Tangle lists Surge and Kit as more friends to join crossworlds along with Lanolin, Jewel, Belle and Clutch before stopping herself and going "no never" because Clutch is a bad guyI'm honestly starting to wonder if that whole page of Surge attacking sonic was something that wasn't supposed to be there with how little it mattered, in fact even during Lanolin's little apology form pages they were harping on Mimic and Clutch over those two, I wonder if that instant was yet again another clash between Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley over the direction they want those characters to go inIan's been losing influence rapidly with each year from being silenced in bumblecast about sonic stuff, to having less and less say so in IDW to if we're to be believed not even consulted for the most recent sonic game storyboarding this time, even crossworld had the bare minimum, he only wrote some dialogue not all in that gameI think he's being pushed out, on one hand that's good, on the other hand that means Evan's rising in influence I do not want her writing a game script not even for the silver lust but because she got that rebecca sugar brain and wants people to cry and talk about their feelings all the time to resolve conflict rather than throwing hands, Lanolin's apology pages felt straight out of steven universe, I know, because I never watched it
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>>568881923Every character relies on Sonic because he's the only character with any agency. Every other character could try to fix the world until Kingdom Come, but Sonic is the writer's pet. Sonic is literally the only nonnpc in a world of characters that straight up don't fucking matter. He isn't just a gary stu. He's the only person at all.
>>568860935This is gotta be hottest piece of cuck fan art I've ever seen, Cuckgem perhaps
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>>568881837Krack....>>568881923>If you can claim Tails relies on his connection to Sonic you can 100% do the same with all of those characters as well.I don't actually think it's true. Silver and Shadowfags seem more interested in doing things with the character. Amyfags care more about her characterization more than anything.Tailsfags seem more interested in how he is perceived relative to Sonic. Or at least that's how you seem to be acting.Instead of talking about how Tails would be cool in a solo game, you've been whining instead about sonic being the main character and more cool than Tails. Most conversations Tailsfags have is about trying to powerfag him rather than discuss how he can be used interestingly in a gameplay or story scenario.Tails was playable in Final horizons so clearly your claims about him being Playable isn't all that important since it didn't satisfy you.
>>568882160And that’s why this franchise currently sucks cock. It wasn’t always like this
>>568881973Batman literally has sex with catwoman regularly
I hope Yujiro comes in and corrects you fuckers, I'm getting tired of this
>>568881960>Is Amy just delusional about all male hedgehogs?No, it's not about Male hedgehogs. Amy is just very friendly. She makes friends with people easily and tries to a lot more than most other characters.
>>568882160Sonic is just that cool
night night
>>568882160>>568882253Why are Tailsfags like this? Maybe its not even Tailsfags specifically but ArchieTailsfags?
>>568882305Wait a minute...Shadow is sleeping with a whore?!
>>568882091>I think he's being pushed outI wonder if it’s because he declined to move to cali for the job.>>568882198>>568860935>>568861150Cuck shit is usually done and liked by insecure or jealous people, which are you?
>>568882348Amy is just very dumb.>>568882361That's why it's called "Sonic the Hedgehog." Because he's the only character.>>568882463I don't give a fuck about Tails. They should kill him off.
>>568882445Sweet dreams.
>>568882224Oh go fuck yourself I brought up Tails’ solo games earlier and you dismissed them immediately. You’re also the one saying I can’t enjoy Tails’ cool solo moments without thinking of Sonic
>>568882712>Oh go fuck yourself I brought up Tails’ solo games earlier and you dismissed them immediately.I didn't "dismiss it immediately". I said I think Amy could probably make for a more interesting lead in a game even though I believe SEGA doesn't believe either of them have the sauce to do so.Please learn to read.
>>568881901>That's fair. I'd describe it more as both of them appreciate that they keep things more professional and that is part of what they like about eachother. I think of em as good work colleagues.I agree that they care about each other (or I'd say other people in general) by the way. Just think that they are too much for each other in a casual setting.
Some of you guys need friends because Rouge and Shadow are definitely not friends. You can go do fun things with friends. Shadow doesn't do fun things.
>>568882798If Robin can lead the Teen Titans, Tails can lead a game. You just lack imagination and creativity>I think Amy would be a better leadAnd I’m supposed to believe you don’t hate Tails GTFOH
>>568882959Then who is playing with her titties?
>>568882932Shadow doesn't give a single fuck about Rouge anon. She's just a useful ho.>>568882959Shadow doesn't so anything but stare at things and job.
>>568883024Shadow gives a fuck about people if only because that's what Maria would want him to do :^)
>>568883019Everyone EXCEPT Shadow.
>>568882224You guys are so autistic about this subject. I've never said Shadow doesn't care about Rouge at all, I just said they aren't friends. "Not friends" doesn't mean "I wouldn't give a shit if you died". Sonic and Shadow aren't friends, but Shadow was still visibly bothered by Sonic dying in '06, even if he wasn't crying his eyes out or anything dramatic like that.
>>568882712>You’re also the one saying I can’t enjoy Tails’ cool solo moments without thinking of SonicNo, I said "those accomplishments you highlight have no inherent value without relating them ultimately back to Sonic" even though you accused me of having a "Sonic-centric lens" out of literally nowhere after i told you to list things about Tails you don't just make about his "graduating from being a sidekick" arc.>>568882979>If Robin can lead the Teen TitansTails isn't Robin though. Also Robin in Teen Titans is barely Robin. He was reliant on amalgamating a bunch of different robin's together and even then his character is mostly obsessing over Slade and being diet Batman.
>>568883019your pornographic fanfic isn't canon
>>568883019Sonic. With hers and ones belonging to beach babes.
>>568882959Shadow doesn't do fun things period. He doesn't really have friends but Rouge and Omega are the closest thing he'll ever have to that.
>>568883132That's different from actually caring about them. That's an obligation.>>568883224>Oh no...the planet...Maria...Nah, he's troubled by the fact that the only character capable of saving the world just died. Which means the world is doomed, and he and all the other npcs are going to die.
>>568883224Thank you Krack.
>>568877081The more you learn japanese the more you realize how boring Sonic is.Let say you want to improve Forces;Knuckles doesn't kill 80% of his people, they just "black out"Sonic isn't tortured for 6 monthsTails is just sad instead of crazy after Sonic leftThe cutscenes now match what happened in the japanese script. But ask yourself this question, wouldn't it be better if the cutscenes matched what the Western script said instead? Because those are the only parts of Forces we talk about, in the Japanese version really nothing happens. Everything builds up to the most boring power of friendship in the history of gaming.
>>568882445Sleep tight bubblegum rat
>>568882959like the wind, I follow my own path and do not require friends
>>568882445https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCuUAeLUVCkNight.
>>568883435I like having friends... you can be free like the wind and have friends!
>>568883227Because I don’t fucking see those things through the “graduating from being a sidekick” angle, YOU DO. I see them as Tails’ own accomplishments, NOTHING to do with Sonic. Sonic *may* be the motivating factor behind Tails, but everything Tails does is HIS OWN
>>568883403Fucking rip. I hope another franchise takes up my very specific fetish for blobians.
>>568883227>>568883568>Because I don’t fucking see those things through the “graduating from being a sidekick” angle, YOU DO.But you do though. What is it about Tails making a fake chaos emerald that is so uber cool compared to him analyzing the fucking space time continuum for readings over it falling appart?Objectively the latter is a bigger feat and accomplishment than the emerald. The reason is because seeing Tails level up in SA2 as a payoff from his development in SA1 is satisfying.
>>568883760Everything about Shadow is so contradictory. I hate him.
>>568883403I played SA2 in both English and Japanese with English subs and the most notable thing about it is that Sonic is way fucking boring in JP compared to EN.
>>568883905Example?
>>568829172My favorite pokemon is Arcanine and my favorite character is Sonic and they both have extreme speed
Tails Blanco when?
>>568883905>tfw Sonic really is just Superman but even more boring
>>568883770>The reason is because seeing Tails level up in SA2 as a payoff from his development in SA1 is satisfying.Yes, but that doesn’t mean it’s to Sonic’s credit. He uses Sonic as a baseline reference for self improvement, but actually going through the tangible improvement is done by HIMSELF, not Sonic. His end goal isn’t truly to be like Sonic, it’s to believe in himself
>>568884081His end goals are irrelevant. Tails exists to go "WHOA, SONIC IS SO BADASS!"
>>568884079Superman (loudly): I HAVE CHARACTER FLAWS
>>568884064Beast Tails when?
>>568882552>which are you?Horny guy masturbating to Sonic getting dicked by Chadows BBC in front of Amy type
>>568883323Except he keeps angling his head and body away from Sonic's corpse. He says "Sonic, here I come" in his End of the World stage, where he has to collect an Emerald to save Sonic.
>>568884196Yeah like...uhhhhhhhh>>568884259Yes. He's literally coming. Ergo he said so in case the retard who cares about Sonicman forgot what Shadow was doing.
>>568884185And that’s your shallow wrong viewpoint that Sonic Team has also adopted and I hate you both for it
>>568884242An Aiden or genuine fag?
>>568884081>Yes, but that doesn’t mean it’s to Sonic’s credit.I didn't say it was. The fact you jumped to this show you are the one with the Sonic-centric lens.When I say "level up from being a sidekick" I am not using a Sonic-centric lens yet you accuse me of doing so. Now you are agreeing with me without realizing it, schizo.Now lets focus on what actually matters here which is Tails being used in the writing as a character.Why do you find the emerald being made satisfying but not him showing he can read the spacetime continuum for anomalies, make a ship that goes to outter space and even do interdimensional travel?>His end goal isn’t truly to be like Sonic, it’s to believe in himself This is a nebulous intangible though and goes back to what i said at the start of the convo.Every story with Tails since has just been him doubting himself and losing his nerve and getting it back. Why? because that is how you recreate the arc. Without it, we just call his "accomplishments" plot devices or exposition.If Tails recreated the phantom Ruby prototype ala the fake emerald in SA2, would you have really cared that much?
>>568884232Nine-Tailed Beast Tails?
>>568884369>wrong>Sonic Team adopted itNone of Sonic's friends are real or have agency. They exist to point at Sonic and say "I wish I was as cool as him!"
That is where you've ALWAYS been wrong about me, West. I'm less human than anyone. I don't love. I don't get scared. I wake up everyone morning knowing exactly what to do and I make better choices than anyone. That's what makes me Sonic and that's one of my billion strengths.
Sonic has the biggest wiener
>>568884602>Sonic even gets to have an epic speech about how much of a Gary Stu he isn't, as he Gary Stus all over me
>>568883403Reminds me of the Japanese changes to Lost World's script; it really shaved down the growing divide Sonic and Tails had that the story was built around, leading to a lot of awkward scenes as ST tries to make Sonic and Tails not fight too much.
>>568883905trvke
>>568884602>I don't get scared.I wish Sonic X didn't make it canon that Sonic is scared of water too.
>>568884342You're coping.
>>568884826Sonic isn't scared of water. He is afraid of drowning.
>>568884826Sonic X isn't canon
>>568884864Shadow needs Sonic to save the world, because Shadow can't do it because he's aware he isn't real. Only Sonic is real.
>>568884478My nigga in Christ you have repeated said that Tails’ accomplishments have to be viewed through the sidekick lens. He is Sonic’s sidekick. How the fuck else can I take that viewpoint other than as a Sonic-centric one??I also never said I found the tech stuff uninteresting, I just want him to also be an action character again, because that’s how he started and how he should be. I brought up the fake emerald in my examples because that also came within the context of a game where he was still allowed to physically do things away from Sonic.
Sonic is great
>Either Shadow is best buddies 4ever with the character or he HATES that character and wouldn't care if they diedShut up.
>>568884886You're correct, but it's obvious what I meant. Don't be pedantic.>>568884901Iizuka will make it canon. Like he made multiple Earths and Shadow having limiters.
>>568883898No that's literally part of the appeal. Moron
>>568884964>My nigga in Christ you have repeated said that Tails’ accomplishments have to be viewed through the sidekick lens. He is Sonic’s sidekick. How the fuck else can I take that viewpoint other than as a Sonic-centric one??You're literally just choosing to do so. By your logic, it is impossible not to do so.>I also never said I found the tech stuff uninterestingYou dismissed it as just plot device and technobabble.>I just want him to be an action character again.What does any of this have to do with the original convo? This started because I said I think Amy has a personality that would pitch for a solo game more than Tails.You're arguing something no one ever argued against.
>>568885015Sonic IS. Everyone else is just waiting around for him to save the day. He is on an eternal treadmill.
>>568883403You'd rather have Knuckles be responsible for the deaths of hundreds?
>>568885158Shadow's wife
>>568885242W-what
>>568885193IM not viewing it that way YOU are?!?!?? I’m talking to a fucking brick wall holy shit
>>568885140>You're correct, but it's obvious what I meant. Don't be pedantic.The distinction matters. I talk to a lot of people that think Sonic literally loses all ability when he touches water like its kryptonite or something.>Iizuka will make it canon.According to Iizuka, he feels X exaggerated it for comedy a bit too much.
>>568885273Yeah
>"I'm not interested in a relationship."How do you respond?
>>568885158sex noodle
>>568885242have any art of this ship on hand?
>>568885352No retard. I have been completely consistent this entire convo while you keep spinning in circles silly slapping yourself and blaming me for it. Clueless retard.
>>568885158Has literally never met Shadow.>>568885165Shadow's only appeal is that he looks like Sonic.
>>568885460>Tails’ accomplishments mean nothing because Sonic>What do you mean I’m viewing things through a Sonic lens???This is you. This is how you sound. This is fucking ridiculous
>>568885585>Tails’ accomplishments mean nothing because SonicI didn't say this though. I said "accomplishments by themselves don't mean anything for any character." I even gave the example of Sonic destroying another eggman base not being meaningful."illiterare retard.
>>568885438Unironically some of the oldest Shadow fanart on the internet is Shadmina
>>568885438NTA but yes. I'm kr*ck though Shadow has art with almost every character.
>>568885651>I said "accomplishments by themselves don't mean anything for any character."And this is also retarded!! How the fuck do a character’s accomplishments mean nothing????
>>568884259>>568884864This isn't very IDW Vegatadowish.
>>568885741Both styles of y2k in one pairing
>>568885362Touche, I sometimes forget that retards like that exist.>According to Iizuka, he feels X exaggerated it for comedy a bit too much.I mean, knowing that water stages exist and Sonic was shown multiple times to enjoy his leisure time at coasts it would be stupid to claim that Sonic hates large water pools. That said, I honestly think that Iizuka would think that Sonic wouldn't go surfing for example just because he can't swim. It's more about a dial with him.
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.Drogune has virtually no audience.Gamefreak is the Ian Flynn of game devs.
>>568885848It's almost like IDW is OOC for Shadow
>>568885741Cute, I need Shadow x Mina fankids now
>>568885914IDW is ooc for everyone. Also the entire series is shit.
>>568885940The hair would be a hassle
>>568884342>He's literally comingLewd.
>>568885914Ian would use it to justify Archiedow.
>>568885738really? that is interesting. Wasn't even aware that this ship was even a thing. Did these two even interact that much in Archie?
>>568884602if this is sonic "in character" ill take the localized "out of character"version
>>568886048Not even one single time. Mina was almost entirely divorced from all the game characters and wasn't close with any of them except Sonic.
>>568885738>Shadmina>not Minadow
>>568885831Because they require context to matter.If i just write a character called Godfist the Chimpanzee and give him the power to snap you out of existence and make him do that to Sonic, it's vapid and empty.People agree The End was an underwhelming Villain and Sonic beating him didn't feel as impactful as it was meant to because of it.The only people that care that much are people interested in vs debate feat fodder. meanwhile in Shadow generations, people care more about the time Shadow got to spend with Maria and the fact he shed a goddamn tier moreso than the fact he defeated a more powerful version of Devil Doom.The latter only matters as a vehicle to facilitate the former.
I remember Shadow x Mina from a very old and legitimately bad fangame that was a crossover between Archie Sonic and Game Sonic."Tale of Two Sonics" I think it was called.
There is a super old Shadow Mina deviantart group but most of the images appear to be lost to time. It had a lot of that how to draw manga art style
>>568886217Sure, and you think context of Tails’ feats is Sonic, when it’s not. That is called a Sonic-centric lens
>>568885738Makes sense. I'd imagine that Mina was a self-insert for many girls.
SOMEONE BAAAAAAAKE
>>568885940I think they'd be kind of ugly kids desu
>>568886293>Mina if she had better tastes in hedgehogs
>>568886376Mina was Archie's first case of a character who has an arc through Sonic. Maybe young girls identified with her.
>>568886380sorry anon, the oven broke down
>>568886129Except, yknow, the one she had literal kids with
>>568886435>Mina if she had better tastes in hedgehogsMinAmy???
>>568886360>Sure, and you think context of Tails’ feats is Sonic, when it’s notNo retard. for the 7th time. I am not the one making it about Sonic. You are.Tails graduating from being a sidekick is not about Sonic.You are the one making this Sonic centric.
>>568886418>black furred mongoose with purple hair and red eyes>tfw there might be mobians that don't work out because they think their color coordination is badEh>>568886525Cradlerobber Mina sucked.
Shadow is the fandom's manwhore. He is paired with literally everyone.
>>568886418most likely but I still wanna see atleast one
>>568886505
Which two characters would make beautiful kids though
>>568886484She's also pretty, a diva, got special powers and had a thing with main character for a while.
Seems like some of you just want villains who larp as heroes since Sonic's genuine heroism frightens you.
>>568886643Sonic is paired with more characters than Shadow.
>>568886746Shadow and Maria.
>>568886570>Tails graduating from being a sidekick is not about Sonic.Yes it is!! That’s whose sidekick he is!!! Are you fucking retarded??
>>568886280Just think of how much cool Sonic fan art from the 2000s and 2010s has been lost because the artists deleted their accounts. It's not just art. It's fandom history
>>568886871Based department
>>568886746Sonic and Amy
>>568886576>Cradlerobber MinaCursed
>>568886746sonic and amy because they're both hedehogs
>>568868837>folders of pictures of artistsFrom /sthg/?
>>568887062Name 1 good looking sonamy fankid
Sonic died…
I swear to God there were a hundred of images in this style with Shadow and Mina and they're gone now
>>568886380I'm too drunk and horny too bake respionsiby
>>568887069Duofag not only remembered this one but recreated it unprompted even though he hates Tails.
Each time this loops, a poster will be killed until the next thread is posted. Clock's ticking.
>>568887245That’s good riddance
>>568887523Hard disagree. It was a more soulful time.
>>568886884>Yes it is!! That’s whose sidekick he is!!! Are you fucking retarded??It doesn't matter whose sidekick he is though. the fact that he is one is what is relevant to the arc. Sonic could be a non-descript Hero and for the purposes of making the arc satisfying, it wouldn't matter as far as how compelling Tails' arc is and the things he does in SA2 being satisfying.
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>>568887245>>568887573
>>568887390Scribbles MobiusisFlat and Colono are the only drawfags Duofag is decent towards which is of strange since he hates Krack's guts
>>568887675Cute.
>>568887670
>>568887473why don't you do it? All it requires is copy-pasting the text in the op and a sonic image.
>>568857793I hate this
Sonic should rape Tangle
It kind of makes sense since Shadow and Mina are both from the y2k era and around that time Mina had no decent ships. This art was probably drawn by teenage Shadowyumes who projected onto Mina.
>>568887726here's one more I was able to find
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>>568887902>>568887902>>568887902
>>568887824rip children with dreams.
>>568887584Then why have you been downplaying his actions as “meaningless towards himself”? Do you just not respect sidekick characters?
>>568884496>None of Sonic's friends are real or have agency. They exist to point at Sonic and say "I wish I was as cool as him!"That's not true. Amy's job is to point at Sonic and say "I wish I could fuck him!"
>>568889267>Amy's job is to point at Sonic and say "I will ride the wind"
>>568875528sonelise i get (even if the point was that the universe literally deletes it from existence) but shadria doesn't really have anything more aguable to it than silvaze or sonamy
>>568859445NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSONIC AND AMY ARE ONLY GOOD FRIENDSGOOD FRIIIEEEEEEEEEEEENDS
