'dite life edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.com>Previous Thread>>571025572 >'dite thread>>>/bant/24523106
>>571492454KEKYPOW
actual thread:>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465
>>571493326
Do I really need to spend 4 years of a programming course before making my flappy bird clone on Godot?
>>571495086If your IQ is above 120, just start your project and you'll learn programming along the way. You need to have the C# (don't be a nigger) documentation always open on your second screen because that's the way one learns.
>>571495086Learning how to program is the easy part. Learning how to architect your codebase is what breaks people.
feels like using AI is the only way for non coders like us to actually use Godot without spending an entire day how to make a sprite move left
>>571496832>an entire dayomg such a long time for a fruit fly
>>571496832Alphies are fucked if this trend continues.
>Aarimous and Thornity's new game>Only 1000 wishlistsI guess the lucky streak ended for Thornity
>>571497406funny thing is im 29 and i've been trying to follow heartbeast tutorials during the game maker days
>>571497536how long did it take to reach 1000?
>>571497536not much of a streak>>57149826116 a day, so 1400/16=88 days
>>571495436>C#>godotretard
>>571498538>Click and Conquer>Black hole gameMade more than most
>>571496832Why would you need AI when godots own documentation explains it in like 2 seconds https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/2d/2d_movement.html
>>571498889you wouldn't say that to my face at the gym
>>571499109Yeah, I'm not gay
>>571498538my game got 10 a day and then stopped when i stopped posting videos(I have no following)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/necrofane-team/necrofanewhy did it flop? is this too generic nowadays?
Whatup big boat connoisseurs!I have made some improvements on the watershader (added noise to the surface and below), created a new mesh generation tool that helps me create the bow & stern for ships and I am now planning the UI for battles
>>571499340*wait i got 2 today!>Russian Federation hmm
>>571500242when the guns fire do they make waves?
>>571497536watching him vibe code with codex rn.
>>571500232it has no identity beyond 'old graphics'. probably should have made it plastiboo inspired like all the other successful ones.
>>571500378Currently not, no but would be very cool. Maybe I will add this in update after shipping
>>571501035
>>571500242>>571501035always glad to see your progresscan you show what combat looks like?
>>571497536For someone obsessed with charts and numbers, it's strange that he didn't see the decline of short incrementals coming. He should've pivoted to another genre by now
>>571500242Thinking about placing the battle UI like this
>>571501332I've read somewhere that a modern destroyers and cruisers wouldn't be able to sink a WW2 battleship with modern antiship missiles. The armor was simply too thick, and since battleships aren't a thing any more they didn't bother giving modern destroyers and cruisers more powerful missiles.Could be bullshit. Cruise missiles could sink a battleship.
>>571501414does he know how to make other genres?
>>571501376>always glad to see your progressThanks anon!>can you show what combat looks like?it is not implemented yet, I am currently working on it>>571501609Well, in my game you can find out by going into battle with a modern destroyer agains a battleship but the precision strikes of modern weapons could easily disable a battleship while remaining out of reach of the guns
>>571500503*why is he being an asshole to other devs?
Its just a flash game from 20 years ago.
>>571501512I somehow have to get is as pretty as the AI
>>571502658he used to work at MindGeek aka Pornhub
>>571498889I precisely said don't be a nigger and use a non-language instead of an okay language like C#
>>571492454>Interruptions in the middle of the action>Decision buttons>Character entrance animation>Button selection animation>Animation when no button is pressedOther things you can't see:>Log of all in-game text for translations
>>571502769one cabin needs to have a sailor orgy going on at all times
>>571502671>flashgame from 20 years agowatch this become the new metazoomers moved on from 90s nostalgia they didn't live through to 2000s now
>>571502658They dities and he's sick off they shit
>>571503418y r u #000000
>>571503376Yeah, inb4 someone recreates neopets and alien adoption agency type websites and thinks it's new and provocative because it's not a meta, twitter, or reddit website.
>>571493326I'm Jewish and from Israel so I can't post there
WHY CAN'T THEY MAKE AI FOR PIXELART THAT'S AS GOOD AS CLAUDE FOR CODEWHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M SUBSCRIBING TO YOUR PATREON AND PURCHASING YOUR ASSET PACKS AND THE FRAMES ARE MISALIGNED ON THE GRID AND YOUR ART HAS INCONSISTENCIES BASED ON CHARACTER'S DIRECTIONREEEEEEEEEEEEEE ARTISTS CAN'T GET REPLACED FAST ENOUGHAND THEN I REACH OUT TO YOU AND WANT TO PAY YOU 500 BUCKS TO FIX YOUR SHIT AND LET YOU RELEASE IT FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND YOU EITHER REFUSE OR GIVE ME LIKE 6 MONTHS ESTIMATEEAT SHIT AND DIE
>>571503768We love Jews on /bant/Come join us!
>>571503146sex? SEXOOOOO
>>571495086Got 1 game on steam, currently working on my second. I don't know anything about programming, just using gemini and chat gpt free versions.
>>571503809Do it yourself then chud
>>571503809nigga, claude can make pixel art.
>>571502671Yeah but I am happy with the progress I made over the years>picrel is first version of this game
Okay legitimate question for the people here who seriously want to use AI for everything in the gamedev process: what's the point? Gamedev is far from the most profitable thing you can do with AI, and you aren't getting the experience of actually "making" a game either. It just feels like a waste of your time more than anything else.
trying to make a rogue like based on a simple concept, but I kind of don't know how to make inter-run progression. Isaac just gives you longer and stronger runs, right? Or is that out of fashion by now and we must go upgrades and stuff.
>>571504737I use it for code, and basically because I have to. I do everything else and already took the time to learn those skills but I don't have the time to get to the skill level AI is at. I think retards actually think they're gonna make millions if they just make any game so they think ai is fine because they're already retarded. Then if course when they fail and give up they start shitting up the thread.
>>571504737What part of gears of war did Cliffy B make himself?With AI, I will eventually be able to lead a AAA studio (ALL AI AUTONOMOUSLY) that can make my visions reality
>>571504737I want to make a game. AI help make game faster. Everything else is irrelevant to me.
>>571504737AI is a tool. If you learn how to make games using a tool that is learning how to make a game. What's so much more profitable that a person can do from their mom's basement with AI?
I just wanted to make a nice map overlay, and now I'm fixing blood meridians with antimeridian library dedicated to ease my headache.
>>571504737>if you use blender to make nodes instead of writing out vertx in notepad, what's the point?>if you use aseprite to make art instead of writing bitmap files in notepad, what's the point?>if you're going to get a musician to compose the music for your game instead of spending the next 5 years learning the music theory and instruments, what's the point?idk nigga it's a tool, it helps you be more productive
>>571504737They're seeing AI for what it is now: a tool to help with a lot of technical stuff. They're not seeing AI for what it will be in a few years: a tool to replace them at everything including game ideas.
>>571506047Those aren't good comparisons lol
I just realized that python may be the best vibe coding language.
>>571506437it won't replace me at game ideas because my games are about my darkest secrets told through ludo narratively cohesive puzzle shartformers
>>571508019I just realized i can deepfake cris and be him on tiktok, raking up millions as i realize things to my captive audience
>>571501969no..
>>571508812Hey man I loved braid you really did a phenomenal job.
>>571509243please wishlist stars of a radiant ponderance
>>571500232>>571500779The weird mix of pre-rendered sprites and ps2 era graphics don't work. Pre-rendered sprites need simpler world graphics and if you go pre-rendered sprites you can't mix in proper 3d models with them except for like a table or something simple like that. You can't have the player's viewmodel be 3d and fight pre-rendered dudes. It just doesn't work visually. They should have gone for shadow tower / eternal ring in full proper 3d. I think they used a bunch of asset store 3d for the pre-rendered stuff. Some of that stuff looks way too familiar.
it's amazing how some devs can come up with fairly cool ideas, and then squander them with the most mundane gameplay imaginable
>>571509547all gameplay is mundane when you are 35
>>571509547You need the skill to follow through on that good idea or it's just a waste.
this is just my flop game, my real game lives in canada
>>571501969>>571509015he's a talentless hack that can only copy low hanging fruits. Other genres require more effort
This is Franz Six, a Nazi death squad (Einsatzgruppe B) commander who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for Nazi death squad type of activities, specifically hundreds of murders. He was released after only 4 years and then got a job at Porsche as an advertising executive.Meanwhile I'm completely unemployable because I was making games for too long and I have an insurmountable "employment gap".Imagine some HR woman looking at that guy's resume and looking at my resume and choosing to hire that guy over me.There isn't even a game idea in this because there's already a Papers Please game where you're a hiring manager.
>>571503137Yes, which is why you're a retard. Weird that you couldn't grasp that, but then again, also expected from a retard.
>>571513239The Resume, Please game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oekb5xY9qTg
>>571513239>There isn't even a game idea in thisJob Quest: An RPG where your resume is your character sheet/stats and you have to take requests around town for experience and needed gear which slowly fills out your resume and increases relevant stats for future jobs. Then when you get your first proper job, that opens up the game for more locations and better jobs, which provide more interesting quests and resources to then be able to upgrade jobs and so on:^)
If anyone has just showed up after not being here for like a week or so and you're wondering what the fuck is happening, this general on /vg/ is now dead. Every new thread is being made by a psychotic troll (most likely but not necessarily the failed game developer "faggoon") who obsessively spams AI related memes in a vane attempt to demotivate yesdevs.All non-schizo yesdevs have move to our new general on /bant/. Over there we have IDs so retards can be filtered. That's where actual progress and game dev related discussion is taking place now.>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465>>>/bant/24539465
>>571514310trans
I returned to my 2D mario engine after realizing that python is the best vibe coding language.:D
>>571516926i made this game
>>571492454>>571300697>Previous Thread>it's the same one than three threads agoit's not that hard bro, even in /vcg/ you manage to make new threads properlyand talking about /vcg/, how sad has to be for you realizing that nobody is following your mantras there, even worse>I was going to ask if this is a game or directly genned ai vid, until I saw it mysteriously back together after finishes falling throwing consistency completely out the window. Yea.>The arm changing design entirely just to bend is making me very upseteven AIbros have standards
>>571492454progrry, better camera work for the customization menu, i gave it a smol scene tooI hope buttons dont become annoying to use because of it
>>571504541>KMS Bismarckok you got meI chuckled
>>571504737I wish I could prompt humans instead but I'm poor.
It seems gemini goes from retard tier to genius super human intelligence if you switch from nim to python.
>>571519882Because Python has 100000x the code to source from, and Nim is a niche within a niche.
more like jon blow your money away rumao
>>571519882>to genius super human intelligenceuhh trust me, whatever you're making does not require intelligence of any kind except that which is average
will gamers be too stupid to understand if in my game which takes place in "space" (except not space but the void of another dimension, but otherwise plays like a space game) that there are no "planets" but instead giant space stargates you go through which take you directly to another realm?will they think that's worse than planets? because its actually better, i just think they're too retarded to realize.
Starting the ui asset
>>571519882Nigga what the fuck is nim? Of course it's going to be better if it has more knowledge and python has a wealth of knowledge.
>>571518205ayyy
>>571508019hey Cris did israhell really interfere with your elections or is ole Gustavo coping and seething?
>>571518205princess maker? idol designer?
>>571522943You can tell from the abysmal graphical design that it's maid cafe dev.
>>571523176lmfaoo
>>571522021No one cares about your shitty teenager sketches bro. It's not a game. It's shitty digital sketches.
Chud Machine details dropped
>>571524426>6 cores>16gb ram>1500 dollarstop kek
>>571524496I admit I laughed out loud when I saw 16gb. 8gig vram ain't great either.
>>571522634the second.cope and seethe from leftists.
>>571524426
i want to cut my games features short so i can clone kannadevs game so i can beef with kanna
>>571513239make a game about identifying kikes who are trying to cross the border to avoid being put into camps
I wanna be rich, not poor.
>>571525262Imagine how it feels to receive a message like that from Gabe
>>571525286Okay, so you have a goal, now work towards it.
>>571513239>>571525224I even have the name of the game for youGuess the Kike
>>571524943That's my thinking too. As far as I know your cunt has a history of leaning chud anyway so the results are not a big shock.
How come there aren't any (popular enough) games (that I know of) that use more parameterized crafting? e.g. Instead of a discrete crafting recipe like "Iron Sword" that requires 1 unit of iron that outputs a weapon with a 10 attack, we structure crafting recipes like "[any metal] Sword" that requires 1 unit of [any metal] and outputs a weapon with 2 * [any metal's base attack], with Iron Ingots tagged as 5 base attack.
>>571525557games like that people will quickly find out that thunder gems is the most op choice and the game becomes a thunder gem meta
>>571525378Where my uppers at though?
>>571524426wait fags really got fucked. glad i built my PC before all the memes.
>>571525938What does that matter in a single player RPG where the player can't access thunder gems until nearly the end game?
>>571518205>>>/wsg/6180628
>>571495086No. If you're decently intelligent, like university level, you can start programming in 2-3 months enough to make flappy bird.
>>571525119Gabe knows his audience
>>571495842You just need game states and a few other little tricks. Like maybe an Interface for saving or something. Learning how to listen to actions in the game with delegates. With just this you can make some complicated games.
>>571527713Kek'd
>>571527951kekypow
>>571529058KRAKAPOW
is it foolish to engine hop? i was thinking of doing 3d games in unity while doing 2d in godot
i keep getting wasted and miss milestones
>>571533408yes
>>571533408do you think doubling your workload is beneficial somehow?
>>571533572Being addicted to alcohol or drugs is bad for you, Anon.You should get addicted to the gym instead, you will become big, strong and muscular.
>>571533408Yes, because half of game dev is literally just mastering the knowledge of the engine desu. >>571533572As i've been grinding nonstop every day for 2 weeks now I've not touched anything to alter my mind so that this doesn't happen. Once I hit a comfortable spot and I'm sharing video progress I'll enjoy some gummies again.
>>571534242>>become big, strong and muscular>just trade away 10% of your life for nothing
>>571537052>for nothing
>>571534242You can be strong and muscular without going to the gym, just get a blue collar job and stop living in your parents basement.
>>571537052nta but you should at least be semi fit, excercise some and move or your body will start to break in very annoying ways when you turn 30.My back is so troublesome I basically got disc bulge just from sitting bad.
>>571538036Me getting shot (I lived)
>>571537841lol, blue collar trains for endurance and using your leverages to your advantage, not strength and size
>>>/v/741653020please don't kys over this aitrannyI'm sure you can still find your place in society.. as a janitor, a street sweeper.
>>571538426post head
>>571539343Only a retard would disclose AI usage. You ludlost bigly.
>>571539343>Literally no way for a gamer to actually prove that a game uses AINo one is going to disclose their AI use now lol
>>571539230Nah, go unload trailers and ocean containers for a few years. You'll be strong as fuck.
>>571539343https://github.com/seeeeew/aiwarningforsteamAI hatters = trannies not beating the allegations.
>>571540125Holy fuck this guy's entire timeline is just seething at AI and tranny shit.
>>571539894You can decompile Godot games to investigate if they use AI thoughever
>>571540125how are these actual people
Sisters! We must fight the AI together.
>>571540896
>>571540896krakakapowapowa
>>571540896>"Be gay, do crime" mfs when someone doesn't disclose their AI usage
>>571541558fucking kek, performative faggots
>>571495086I was too much of a brainlet to bother learning to code so I learned Visual scripting instead. Super simple to use. Built entire games using nothing but visual scripting.
>rpgmaker obliterarated their most valueable resource (their community forum)Why do companies HATE money so much.Lke SO much.
>>571542391Why use rpgmaker when you can use AI
>>571540242>tfw this thread is just seething at luddites>tfw is equally pathetic
Okay, what if I develop my app using python vibe coded but to export it, I port it to nim?
>>571543389very fat kittyanyway what's the obsession over nim?
>>571540896he doth protest too much?
>>571543389just tell AI to not vibecode
>>571543479It's like python syntax but compile to C, so you get a C like binary with the easyness of python syntax and modern memory management.
>>571543479Not Cris, but Nim is a cool language. Cris probably just likes it because it looks vaguely like python/godot script.>>571543389You probably want Cython, so you can skip the porting step.https://cython.org/
I honestly just can't complain about AI for programming, it's just working wonderfully for me in making progress. I want nothing to do with AI for anything art or music related though, fuck that.
>>571544032codebros does this prove programming is not art?
>>571544185most of /agdg/ are making heavily derivative or templated games with easily sourced code.
https://youtu.be/mHDf-kelWG4gpu cube composited against a CPU Raycasted world. https://youtu.be/gIBRy6uomsA
>>571544032>I want nothing to do with AI for anything art or music related though, fuck that.why
>>571544185never wast. codebro for 19 years
>Generating the gameplay with AI:3>Generating a brick texture with AI ('□')︵ ━
>>571545678That brick texture is everything bro. I put my life into it.
>>571545678f**d analogy time>the chef spat on the potatos only, the rest is fine to eat trust us
Make miserable games
nah, tired of that slop.you WILL enjoy the sunny coastal beach
It's fucking insane how much invisible progress goes into making a game. All these changes from the past week and almost nothing visual to show for it.
>>571547139slime king art tho
>>571547360It doesn't feel like proggy though because it's from a purchased asset pack.
>>571545165Because, my art looks exactly like it does because of how I developed my skills and how I do things. Same for my songwriting. AI just doesn't do that and couldn't. No one but me is going to know my code and all it does is make my pictures move and sounds play.
>>571547465proggy for the artists bank accountunrelated but the king of indies is back with a new game and it's sloppalicioushttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2431080/Blood_Dungeon/taking notes
>>571545678Textures are pretty unimportant to the art desu. I personally use a bunch of procedural ones I learned from tutorials in nodes then change and edit them to my taste. I also have textures of things I've photographed myself but they aren't that
>>571547745yandere devs outsider programming art was a visual treat
>>571547139Eh, it really depends on the game and what the progress is.
after substance painter I stopped caring about textures. all look same.
>>571548164trvke
Is this a good place to find people to collab with or hire? Or are there other places besides reddit?
>>571548761this might be the worst place to look for that kek
>>571548761>Is this a good place to find people to collab with or hire?no
boughted a bug zapper after recommending one to a sis who had mosquito problems and let me tell you, is really fun, It feels like hunting! maybe I'll use this experience to make a game with hunting mechanics one day
>>571550430drink bleach
>>571551445eww no
kind of upsetting how i just now noticed the discord is full of idea stealing fotm devs
are there any advantages to coming forward as an openly racist unapologetic game dev?
>>571524426maybe if i can get one $500 off ebay i buy
>>571552203Release a game under a pseudonym and see what happens.
>>571552354its ludover
>>571551829what idea did they steal?
>>571552203you sound brown
>>571554183mother bastard
>>571547745The years you wasted learning those now useless skills are also just to show pixels on screen and notes through my headphones. AI can do exactly that and better than you. Your moral fails when exposed to basic logic
i think my game is great and becoming fun even in this early stage. but its exactly the genre i like which is probably a non-mainstream genre (ss13/rimworld/cdda/etc type stuff) where people like a 2d topdown game with complex systems yet simplistic CORE gameplay but with hundreds+ of things you can actually do or createi got an item creator, ability creator, character creator (create androids and genetic mutants and such) all accessible from various stations, they all use the same underlying "creation system" though which is mostly ecs + data drive definitions and the stations just enforce rules on top of that which "seem" to limit what you can make but under the hood its all using the same system that only limits players not me from creating whatever i want.or the server host, since they can mod the files
>>571552203Yeah, you get to be poor, hated, ostracized but hey you'll own them libs and THAT'S what counts bröther! We'll be cheering you from 4chan
pokemon but with souls environmental storytelling
>>571554309soon i will work on improving the world procedural generation so screenshots look more appealing. it only has two tiles right now, dirt and rock wall.
AI sisters, not like this. Its over....the luddites, they won...
>>571555279wait, we can filter trannies from buy our games if we disclose AI use. 'ads won
>>571555279Reminder based Gabe doesn't care if you don't disclose AI. Luddites lost.https://steamcommunity.com/app/4298880/discussions/0/798965318966965963/?ctp=5
I just want AI voice acting. I can do art and music. Just give me AI voice acting, please.
>>571555547>pure vibecode slop>no disclosure>massive tranny seethe in discussions>$350k gross madeHOLY, AI SUPREMACY
>>571555726kra-ka-powa
>>571551829How does one steal free real estate?
>>571555694If it is good enough for them, it is good enough for you.
>>571555909ask the casino owners on tribal reservations
>>571556313>an article from 2023https://www.pcgamer.com/anger-from-voice-actors-as-nsfw-mods-use-ai-deepfakes-to-replicate-their-voices-this-is-not-okay/>uploading this is already illegal in the US>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAKE_IT_DOWN_Actthis kind of posts show that you're not even into AI and you're just a retard shitposter with no idea, /r/ was full of this "non-consensual intimate imagery" and it was taken down like a month ago
>>571557435Did you really think your post is going to stop him from posting the exact same image again tomorrow?
>>571555694just learn voice acting, the final boss of solo dev. 0.00000001% ever even attempt it
I want him to post tomorrow. As a self hating tranny, I need him. he's my boo. I giggle when I see him
>>571558423final boss of solo dev is designing around not having voice acting
>>571558705that is the level 1 rat. just make a puzzle game
>>571558763my puzzle game needs voice acting and extensive audio logs
>>571558837jon...
Its UP
why not make a game about Marlboro Skrib?
>a flip town beat em up based on Little Rock and Chip Tup with couch co-op AND deck building?
>>571557435>>571558081ok but this is about voice acting
>>571559642thanks for the heads uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XLvCERbRbw
Just 100%'d pic-rel in 6 hoursWhat did I think of it?
bevyGODShttps://bevy.org/news/bevy-0-19/
>>571560596good but not as good as The Witness
>>571560596promise belongs as its own DLC because it's too disjoint from the others.mirror isles sucked and has messy mechanics and puzzlesheroes was the only coherent and good part
>>571560596your face the entire time?
>>571560696ick, can't imagine making an entire game with this shit
>>571560973>these are the trannies complaining about Unreal verse
>>571552203do it under a false identity, then under your real identity say that false identity was someone you were working with who went off the deep end and is trying to sabotage your game and had tried deleting the code because they thought the was too caring for people. That way you spin up the PR stuff of that fake racist identity, make them crash out and figure out how to navigate that PR into sales. Then after all that you say they were both fake and anyone who cared about either should be more skeptical and use that to generate more PR to get sales
>>571560812The only issue I've had with the mirror was that it was hard to gauge how far you teleport since it's difficult/ tedious to count the tiles.
>>571555694voice acting is gay and bad for games, games would be far better if there was 0 voice acting
>>571561051nah, rustoids know their shits ugly so they rarely complain about other noisy langs
>>571560596Good game, but I hated the voice acting and story and the delay after completing a level. I am considering building a Sokoban clone as a side project, but the hard part is the 3D assets.
>>571555547Lmao @ the people who think the "report AI" will get valve to do somethingThat button is to report "live" AI like games with LLMs integrated not for games with AI art.Valve can't prove if a picture is AI or not, its not possible unless the creator leaves a watermark in or something lol.
yall kept telling me to use Claude but this nigga is not pleasant
>>571561325the problem with puzzle games is if you don't drown them in production values they risk coming across as mobileslop
>>571561398faggot
VALVE DO SOMETHINGI JUST KNOW THAT GAME HAS AN AI GENERATED GRASS TEXTURE AND THE DEVELOPER DIDN"T DISCLOSE ITBAN HIM GABEN BAN THE BAD MAN NOW
>>571561398why would you ever tell a robot some schizo shit like you're gonna an hero that goes straight into a folder in their database and will literally never get wiped ever in the near future they will straight up be sending people to your address for a wellfare check
>>571561613TELL HIM TO USE MEGASCANS GRASS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
I'm going to honestly make a 2D engine that has the character creator that is a fussion of fighter factory with 2D fighter maker 2k2, and has fighter maker 2k2 pseudocoding mixed with rpg maker events and then the rest of the game is made of gdevelop behaviours and rpg maker maps in 2.5D and godot node layers for the GUI and fighter maker story mode mixed with shmup creator enemy spawning and screens.No engine has what I want.
>>571561398realtime Claude grooming
my game is heckin good for real just nobody can tell yet because placeholder graphics. the code is so foin
>>571562035i captured this screenshot as two ships were exploding in the top left. the very start of some explosions is seen
>>571561972cris engine dev arc?
>>571561398I told claude I was jewish and it's on its best behavior now
>>571562035This looks fine. I know people with 15660 hours playing shit like this
>>571562035whats the gameplay angle here? graphics are w/e doesn't matter now
Graphics really aren't important for player retention.When I booted up Order of the Sinking Star demo, the game looked fucking gorgeous. Thing is, a few hours into the game, and I stopped caring about the graphics. All that magic was gone after becoming accustomed.
So my progress is basically complete and just barely over the 2 week window I gave myself by like a day or two. The core game loop is officially established and working with no issues. You can create an account, log in and create a character, you'll start with a default set of gear and spawn into the world. From there you can go fight and kill monsters and the combat log goes into the chat box and the experience goes into your total level and skills while hp and such tick down. Enemies die and drop loot and I can completely control every spawn zone from enemy type, to spawn duration and amount and their loot table individually per zone on the map. Looting works flawlessly and if you die you drop your inventory and have to run back to collect it either from where you started or the spawn portal if you saved to one. Now I just need to spend the time building up the little starter town scene so it looks prettier and I will share video updates.
iuno, fire dude
>>571557435ludcope
>>571561391kekypow
>>571563183kinodites lost
>>571563242now if only there were any dites here
>>571563419*sniffs* hmm you smell like a lud *sniffs harder* yep I can smell your foul stench dite
>>571563497back off weirdo??
>>571563570ludseethe
i want to say my game is like CDDA but playable. and multiplayer
>>571563183Here you go anon
I thought I was a Humbert Humbert, turns out I'm more of a Clare Quilty
>>571563763im an anti-robot schizo. robots send me into a blind nigger rage. i will destroy any robot i see in the streets when they give ai a robot body.
>>571563763Brehs...
>>571563859kanna...
>>571563763Total AI Chad victory! Krakapowa!!
>>571561398Claude said it wasn't him.
WTF is happening on my PC? i tried to delete my game screenshots and look at it
>>571564379AI can fix this
>>571564379that's what happens when you use jeetdows
>>571564379The Microsoft picture scanner has detected something important in your 2026-06 folder and prevented you from accidentally deleting things you would regret deleting. This is a good thing.
>>571564379shoublve used Linux
>>571564339DITIES BTFO
Next Monday I will be gambling away all my money to try to make more rent money. If I don't hit it big, I will have to beg my sister and grandma for money, but they are already fed up with me being unemployed to chase my "gamedev" dream since 2019 that they may not want to give me money anymore, which means I will be kicked out of my apartment.
another pragmata thread filled with AI cunny
>>571564834proof?
>>571564834rent is a jewish scam, if you're spending monthly payments it should be for equityjust shamelessly move back in with mom
>>571565105my mom died before i was born
>>571558081I know, I'm just laughing of our AIchad lolcowimagine that a so called "luddite" is way more aware of the current state of AI than an "AIchad", that's really funny to mebesides, he keeps making the vibe coding generals OPs and inserting his own stuff for a reason, and guess what, nobody is following his delusion there, even worse, he is being criticized by vibecoders, and guess what, no answers there
>>571564834>falling for the "just move out and worry about money 24/7" scam before you made itwwwwwwwww
>>571565307ludseethe all you want, you can't do 10% of those videos made in seconds
i keep seeing ads on 4chan for steam games and i always click them and they always made a fuckton of money. does that mean 4chan ads are a significant part of their monetization plan?
>>571565105Yes, modern rent is a Jewish scam. Back in the day. It used to be that renting was for people who couldn't afford mortgage to make living more affordable, but now not only rent is more expensive than mortgage, but Jewish banks won't let you take out a loan if you don't have enough money even though you pay more in rent. With that being said, I have no mum, and my sister and grandma live 2 countries away.
Why are all AI 4chan users pedos?
>>571565585I'm not
>>571565542You just set aside some budget for ads and spam them everywhere, 4chan, reddit, facebook, instagram, tiktok and hope that any of them has non-zero conversion and the rest somehow hits through the word of mouth through the people that clicked. You're basically stacking your chances.
>>571565693>I'm not
>>571565585Not all of us use AI.
>>571565760*cuts both your legs off*
>>571565585join the winner's club
>>571565918GUH
>>571565918bros...
>post progress>shitposting continuesclassic
'mata on the 'log
>>571567218where
have a strong urge to make a prerendred isometric game with ARPG combat.
>>571567565If it has to be pointed out to you it means you only care about visual progress and not all progress.
>>571567729you are trans
FVUARRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>571567973based pedochads
>>571567902
I'm getting filtered by terrain generation. Thank God Claude is here to handhold me
>>571567780Wrong, I'm a successful straight white man, sucks to suck fag.
So if I want to work in UE5 I shouldn't use blueprints but C++ will still be the main coding language right? What about this verse shit?
>>571568195'risu...
>>571568369soft tranny hands
>>571568380You can use blueprints in UE5 if you want but UE6 is removing them. But generally you wouldn't switch your project from ue5 to 6
>>571568380you should use ai
>>571568398
>>571568195Funny, I just had Claude whip this out for me 10 minutes ago.
>>571568590I'm taking a 2D/3D hybrid approach for making the terrain generation that uses premade 2D tiles so it needs to follow some rules.
>>571568440Lmao, besides the fact that you can't see the bottom of my hand to know if it's soft or not so that's a retarded comment I also worked in logistics for 15+ years, have played guitar and bass for almost 25 years, and have owned a house for over a decade that I've built entire rooms in and done every home repair in. If my hands are still considered soft then it's just because I always put on pic related every time I shower and wash my hands. Now my GF on the other hand has soft ass hands, she said it felt like I was stabbing her with a tattoo gun writing on her palm earlier today with a ballpoint pen.
>>571568964>wall of texttrans moment
>>571568813what about pedo ai chads?
>>571568490>But generally you wouldn't switch your project from ue5 to 6What if I haven't started? Is there any reason to wait for UE6?
>>571569265yeah
>>571569237HAHA LUDDIES ARE GETTING NUKED
>>571569320Total 'DD
>>571569008Sucks that young people are so illiterate they can't handle a single paragraph. >>571569265Really depends on your goals and scope etc.
>>571569937if you had a cock you would have posted it
>it almost workedNot bad for a second attempt.
>>571570046Don't like, most trannies have cocks still? Also, unlike you I try to stay on topic and not ruin the thread.
>>571570318proof you are on topic?
>>571570374>>571562782
>>571570645>another wall of textdid it hurt when they cut it off?
>>571565464as if I would be interested in making worthless slop with no taste, but now that you mention it, I actually have experience making content and being paid for it, can you say the same?
>he can't readgrim
>>571570725
>>571570778using LLMemes literally gives you brainrot, so it's not surprising
>>571570905you ludlost
>>571571000I ludwon thoughbeit
>>571571021keep ludcoping
Why do my ludvictories make this guy so angry?
>>571569937>Really depends on your goals and scope etc.In what way tho? I mean is UE6 really going to be that massive of an upgrade?
>>571570645I need visual progress.>>571568964will your game have a guitar and bass soundtrack?
>>571571182>is UE6 really going to be that massive of an upgrade?Yes. It always is.
>>571571332No it will have an oldschool SC-55 style soundtrack to match it's aesthetic.
>>571571484mmm gayroland bullshit is so played
>>571571484mmm trans
>>571571565Quite the opposite imo, I'm tired of full orchestrated soundtracks.
>>571571679those roland romplers are just orchestration at a low bitrate thougheverbeit
infinifactory but all the specs you have to build get increasingly messed up because the corpo switched to robotic engineers. And then eventually you have to debug and fix the level itself, before you can beat it.
>>571572216and using ai
>>571572640he right doe
>>571572640sometimes I wonder who you are trying to piss off by spamming these, it cant be the pedodevs since all of them use ai
>>571572861He's trying to piss off the hagdevs which is based.
should I be starting with godot or redot? what's the difference?
better make sure your next game is xavier-friendly
>>571573270oh no vibe sissies xavier chad is coming for us
>>571573249redot
>>571568889>that uses premade 2D tiles so it needs to follow some rulesuh... your rules include that one tile depends of it's surroundings as in picrel?
>>571573270>fake newsthere isn't even a single person named xavier working at valve, you could have spent time on your game instead of posting this, oh wait you don't have one
>>571573249Godot, I can't even imagien redot is anywhere near Godot 4.7s recent release.
>>571573249Defold https://defold.com/
oh no ludsissies xavier chad is coming for us
I can't work on my game when my AI is out of tokens. I've been coding for 15 years and already massively hated it before AI even existed. Now I doubly can not go back to hand coding. In fact I think I've largely forgotten how to reason about it.My own mind's context window went from like 10 million to 100,000
>>571574187make smaller games and get money for tokens
>>571574330reminds me of MMO players collecting mats to pay for membership and realizing they're stuck on a hamster wheel
>>>/v/741674360why were you so mean with her
>>571574582who the hell is brazilian cris
>>571574187How much do you pay? I'm using gemini pro extended at the $20/mo tier and its pretty good at just spitting out perfect functions for a whole phase for like 5% usage on the 5 hour window. I have to do a lot of troubleshooting to hit 100%. If I drop down to flash extended I probably wouldn't even be able to hit max usage now.
i guess cris is gone forever huh. oh well. i can be kkkris because im racist and schizo
>>571575286he just posted today, retard
>>571575286he's by far the most consistent poster this thread has had for 10+ years
In 5 years, "I can code" will sound as impressive as "I can use Microsoft Word." I don't know what I'm supposed to do in a world like that, other than just die.
Can't wait for this phase with AI to be over and get to the part where everyone just accepts that it exists and just uses it, or doesn't, like every other piece of technology ever made in human history
>>571575818>controversial technology doesn't exist:^)
>>571575818it will still be talked about for a good while, because anons like >>571575689 make a good point
>>571575943I mean yeah people seethe about computers and social media and smartphones but it doesn't change shit
whats the lowdown on protecting my code from people who decompile stuff and rerelease it with a different name?i heard godot gdscript is kinda bad at that, but what about the c# and c++ extensions? what about unity?
>>571576210homegrown c++ engine is your best bet if you truly care, but AIs are getting pretty good at reverse engineering closed source compiled code so I think its over anyway
>>571576210>nodev paranoiaYou have nothing to worry about because you'll never release a game anyways.
>>571575689Well most people still suck at microsoft word so I don't think it'll be an issue.
>>571576351as long as it stops someone from effortlessly copy pasting the game its fine, i know you cant really stop anyone thats determined and skilled enough to do it
I don't even read those comics he posts
>>571576210I think with the way AI is heading you're gonna be screwed no matter what but also I think you may use AI to combat it as well so who knows.
like i said my game is INSPIRED mostly by Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead which is open source and MIT so I just realized I can literally call my game "Cataclysm Online" or even straight out Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead Online even though it is not CDDA at all since it is coded from scratch, it doesn't matter, I'm STILL allowed to steal their entire name and vibe.think its a good idea?i could also call it Space Station 15 since SS13/14 are both open source MIT
>>571492454I believe I know what the issue is now, the cause of my extremely slow development times.>Analysis paralysisEven when I know what I want my game to be so many tiny things throw me into the indecisive pit>you can use this style but wait won't that style be better?>you code it like this but wait won't that formatting be better?>what if instead of that gameplay loop, the game does this?>what if i add this to the gameplay loop?I need to sit down, and fully write out what the game needs to be exactly. Not just the basic gameplay loop, but far more detailed to have guard rails to stop these constant delays the puts me in a "I don't know when my game will be done." Marnix get's good guesses on when his team's games will be done, why the fuck can't I do that? Maybe it won't stop all of my analysis paralysis problems but it should alleviate some of it, right?>pic unrelated
>>571577493Marnix has released half a dozen commercial games at this point. How many have you released?
>>571575689In five years I'm going to be too busy with my loyal and racist fox girl robowife to care desu
>>571578019now how many if you remove the slop?
>>571578971Zero for every gamedev in the world ever because all video games past, present, and future are all slop. You won't have to worry about making slop because you'll never ship anything anyways.
>>571579264>all video games past, present, and future are all slopnice cope slopnix
>he thinks a medium that can be copy and pasted could ever be anything but mass produced slop
>>5715780190 sadly. Too many mistakes. The other guy who responded is not me, I have no problem making sloppa, sloppa can be fun.
for the first time i feel obsessed with my game, because it reached a point where playing it is personally fun to me. before that it was a chore and i hate making it. this is revealing to me that there is a curve in game dev, and that curve feels better the further you get.i quit so many times. never made it this far.
Can I put Doug Funnie in my game?
the most painful part of game dev now is that nobody other than me cares about my game.
>>571580938if you post it I can pretend to care for a bit
>>571579780Yep, always get your core loop done asap, then you're just building on it
I want to make a game for it's own sake, but don't even have an idea. I've just been saying "I'm going to be a game dev" for so long that it just became some required thing.
>>571581308This is retarded
>>571581454I've been saying it since about 2001. I have to do it even though I haven't even wanted to for at least ten years.
>>571581505Cris?Either way, just stop. Go do something else
my workflow does not involve an engine or libraries at all. i simply downloaded Codex CLI and Claude CLI. those are my engines. they have direct PC access. i tell it to create things and it does.
>>571581735wtf why did i say it doesn't involve libraries. what i meant is i dont pick them i let the ai do it
After using gemini's video generation for a while and holy shit bros I'm a true believer in AI. Give it like 5 years before 3d animators and modelers are phased out entirely. A single artist will be able to go from a rough storyboard to a full movie or cutscene.
>>571583141in 5 years the entire economy will be getting automated by agent swarms and legions of humanoids
>>571583141>to a full moviesomeone already did one and everyone hate it
>>571584541Think about how bad image generation was five years ago.pic related
>>571568964Why were you writting on her hand, tranny-chan?
>>571584702It's still the same random shit assembled in random order. It just looks more convincing because they can stuff more photos in new model.
>>571584831She was in her drawer while working and she has a generic tape measure she got from some work event or whatever (she works with architecture firms and shit for design) and it had like a build in pen on it's side so I pulled it out and tried to write on her hand, it wouldn't work though it was too smooth so i wrote on mine and that got the ink flowing then I wrote poop on her hand. Also I'm not a tranny.
>>571584702AI was a cool novelty back then. I miss it desu. >August 2021
>>571492454so which of these devs actually shipped a game:the bocchi devsthe lolidevsthe engine devsthe godot devs
>>571585375engine devs shipped 1
>>571574187same. 19 years. I think I could pick it up again quick if I had to though, I just don't have to...
>>571575818Not a believer in the singularity?
>>571585375Probably every type of poster has released but no one knows it.
>>571585313can modern AI image-gen still do this stuff? I know I could just use old weights but just curious
uh maid cafe devhttps://x.com/houraindustry/status/2069012273755226572
>>571586461>all the customers are maidsAI will never replace maid-dev
I'm so addicted to the progress I'm making on my code with AI that now I'm upset that I'm about to have to switch back to just in editor stuff for a bit. I feel like I'm going to waste my usage.
>>571587650I'm at 93% of my weekly, my hourly reset but I'm scared to ask for even a tiny thing...
>>571588201I don't think I could ever hit my weekly, especially since I sleep. I have 17% used right now and it resets in 2 days lol.
>>571586461>The lag from input is amazing too, lol lolz I just tried it and for me a solid ten seconds is always spent in the beginning just starting to move then my character ended up slamming into a wall and I spent the next 30 seconds turning around
>i let my bpd get so bad i completely blew up my entire online reputation, including for my games>now i have told people while drunk i used to make games and they want to see themi hate this stupid chud nigger life. i wish i treated my gamedev buds so much better. you deserved better. im so sorry.
>>571588780I forgive you googum
>another day without posting proggy in the yesdev threadI hope to finally do it tomorrow
>>571588842been so long have no idea who this even is
>>571588462I'm on the cheapest plan
>>571589357I recommend upgrading, I tried the $5 gemini and it was a huge upgrade then it let me try the $20 plan for free for a month and it's actually way worth it in my case. $20/mo aint shit either for me.
>>571589507cheapest claude plan. so 20 a month, and using opus 4.8 a lot. and fable 5 for 3 days... god I miss it so much I use opus 4.8 on ultracode sometimes to try to feel a little of that(doesn't work)
>>571589589Ah, I feel like claude pricing and usage is way worse. Although I tried it months ago but I remember asking like 3 prompts on the free before using all usage and I thought that was insane.
If you have 5 to 10 years as a dev can't you just... put that on the resume and get a job?
>>571589757>Python game developerWhat the...
>>571589757>just get a joblmao
>>571589757Companies are having layoffs every week, you would be the first to go.
I had a dream about having a cousin test my game and he didn't like it and I woke up demoralized. I also had a weird painless headache(??) in the evening and it lasted through the night, so now I'm sleepy and low energy. I know it'll get even worse if I take a nap so I better get to work.97 days left. Today I'm going to finish an UI feature and maybe fix a bug or two. If my AC dies, so will I. And it's only the 3rd day of summer.
>>571589757Programmers are being fired more than they are being hired right now I'm pretty sure. If you want to get hired somewhere you better have an impressive portfolio for them to look at.
>>571590613We have devs who have 5 whole vidya games. How are you losing the interview when you have that many games?
>>571590579>an UI
>>571590736Usually they're hiring for a specific role (animator, programmer, systems designer) and they want the best person for that role which is unlikely to be some solodev who's having to look for a job despite having 5 games
>>571589757Experience as a normal dev? And you are looking for a job in game dev? Sure, it’s helpful; but not really great. Game studios (and tech firms in general where applicable) strongly prefer candidates that have used their. specific. stack. If you’re a C# shitter you may still slot into a Unity project. But if you’re a C++ dude and try to get a Godot gamedev job those guys will be just like "lmao u dunno our tech!!"At least that was my experience. It’s completely stupid, but game studious in particular are just hunting for cheap code monkeys and any amount of friction in their eyes = dangerous.Tbh just don’t try to get a job in gamedev at all, it simply sucks and that’s it. Just like make your own game, or get a well-paid dev job outside games industry.
>>5715907365 whole games of what? Small unity projects? Pretty much meaningless.
>>571525352The appeal will wear off quite fast.
give gamers what they want
>>571591350there are people who finish the game without realizing she's the player's daughter
>>571546809I did, but making miserable games was too miserable, and my happy sideproject eventually overshadowed the unhappy project
Guys help me. I got some mechanics, some basic stuff. But I'm having a hard time putting it into a cohesive game. How do y'all do it? Trying to make a rogue like.
>>571592050kenyan helicopter bros get in here
What's the fastest field to get a proper job in if I go full in on it and abandon gamedev? I think I could do technical art, people fear shaders.
>>571592345The market is so fucked it's more likely to make money from your games now.
>>571592345In which fields are shaders written except gamedev?Anyways fastest track to employment is usually McDonald’s. Cleaning people’s houses is also up there.
>>571592568Animation maybe?
>>571592568I need an employment field that lets me immigrate, either by waging or freelance diginomad.And no I'm not indian.
>>571592345I know a dev who went into arcvis. he's loaded now
>>571592740hagdevs on suicidewatch
>>571592736It’s 90% immigrants cleaning houses here.
>in the middle of figuring out a complex bug for a simple aspect>usage peaks and wont be back until 530 in the morning>should be going to bed>want to finish figuring out bug before sleeping and use that early usage because it'll be gone when I wake upGuess i'll sleep when im dead
>>571590736>i have never held a job in my lifeway to out yourself
>>571588974That you Kanna? Might be a wise idea not to, those 2 schizos are far too dangerous to risk revealing yourself
>>571594442kanna doesn't bocchipost... I think
Articy:draft x is god given.
>>571595474>I think
>all the devs moved to /bant/>all the valve shills are working overtime on /v/>just claude shills left heretumbleweed
Do any of yous follow tutorials to make your game?
>>571597564tutorials to learn things
>>571492454style question. does "realistic" lighting belong in voxel games or not?as opposed to say, flood fill per block lighting.
>>571597895i think realistic lighitng works for most art styles, even pixel art 2d. screenshot looks fine to me
>>571597895Realistic lighting doesn't belong in Voxel games, that's why you should add it.It makes your game stand out from the mass, the problem is not that you are making lighting realistic, the problem is that you are making a Voxel game in the first place.
TOTAL AI CHAD VICTORY
>>571597895realistic looks good when you are the light source
>>571597895no it doesnt look good, people dont play games like that for realistic lighting
>>571554293You can see the assets, code is compiled.
>>571594442Kanna already posts progress on aggy
>>571595964Sorry, I don't shill I just use Gemini. Also I'll be posting sick ass progress soon don't worry.
>AI chads are le bad>my pedophile friend who posts CSAM? hes heckin wholesome and posts on aggy (notice the babytalk)makes you ponder....
>>571595964>>just claude shills left herenot even that, it's just>MUH AICHADS WON DITES LOST REEEEEEEEEEEEyou can find way more technical stuff in a FUCKING GOONING thread than herebefore this retard came to agdg we used to discuss AI models related to gamedev, I was pro AI back thennow the only thing that I can think of is that being openly and publicly against AI would be very beneficial for marketing
>>571583141>5 yearsDelusional, you can do it right now. In 5 years there will be no human jobs anymore. You have like 1 year to make a name for yourself in gamedev.
>>571599597kanna is an ai chad
>>571599617>i used to be normal and then i transitioned to a freakyeah we know, many such cases KEKYPOW
>>571599739its pretty clear that the AI antis are just the same 3 pedophiles from the liqcordAI wonIran wonBosnia wonFrance won
>>571599756You are the only freak left.
>>571600003see >>571599945
>>571597754If I want to implement some thing, I just look for a good tutorial and copy paste what they do into my project. Relying on tutorials is probably going to fuck me in the long run. I understand what the code does, but I would struggle to implement it from scratch.The good thing is that I get to build a fairly complex dungeon crawler with netcode (for co-op) with a beginner-intermediate skill level.
>>571599945thers no correlation between being a pedophile and hating ai, i would even say that there are more reasons to be pro ai if you are a pedo
>>571599945Why don’t you go on /tv/ talking about how movies and TVs are dead. We are significantly closer to you just asking AI agent to write a plot, storyboard and then AI gen all the audio and visuals. AI can write way more coherent movie plots then it can make gameplay or consistent assets. Your goal very clearly isn’t to make games because you haven’t made any so why not shitpost in all creative boards. Go shit up /mu/ as well.
>>571600305Ignore him, he has been spamming this general non stop for two years, it's literally the only thing he does all day every day.
>>571600893you ludlost pdf
>>571601068bro is so mindbroken by lolidevs he spams ai even though they also use ai
>>571597564Just use AI. Tutorial only if its something like a shader using shader graph
Another day
>>571601121do they also use computers?
So why did fagoons personality change to be AI and shit?
>>571605150New tactic to disrupt and enshitify agdg
https://youtu.be/oSZvEDoG1Rs?si=xXc2GsEQ2u2iE1-r„Sunt un bețiv, recunosc. Mi-am băut și sufletul la cârciumă pentru doi lei. Milioane s-au dus pe apa sâmbetei. Și pentru ce?”https://voca.ro/1cD3D9cvKJdaMoonrunes.
Next asset starting
>>571606345why not make porn to fund your game?
>>571606467>why not make porn to fund your game?Tried that before with OF...
Thoughts on remaking a flash game as a 3d game with extra features? Also, how do you guage the popularity of an old game like that?it has 500 user reviews on armorgames but you don't know if that's real.
>>571606732are you going to use ai?
If your game is ugly, make it fun. If your game is boring, make it beautiful.
Anon's parents,>My son is going to become a multi-millionaire as soon as he releases his video game.
>>571607202useful advice for those who could make fun and beautiful games but chose not to for some reason
>>571607202if your game is bad, make it good.
>>571606646
>>571607045What's that got to do with my question?>>571607778not every game can be made good. sometimes it's not worth the effort.
How can you be on an AI chud crusade when there's literally zero anti-AI posting going?
>>571608128>shipped demowhat demo lil nigga you shit your pants in fear whenever someone asks you to post your game KRAKAPOW
EyeBallTank here, PC still shit so I tried designing some characters with the usual Nortubel "style" before I can properly work on Hirdrih (After PC is somehow fixed).But even the Krita file got kinda corrupted.
>>571608432KEK bodied that ai freak
games aren't funstop trying to make your game fun
AI won BIGLYTDD
>>571609103based and kekypownpilled
>>571608432this is pretty funny when you see people trying to argue with fagtroon and his ai spam - he's not a dev, he's not making any games with ai or anything, he's literally a mentally ill person, and cannot be reasoned with. he will never post any real progress because there's no project that is being progressed, there's only ai larp spam. every critique or question or argument against this is met with the same schizo posts because the person you're trying to argue with is LITERALLY someone who belongs in a mental institution.just migrate to /bantz/ until he inevitably kills himself
>>571609749post your game, you won't
>>571609871making fun of fagoon, i shall
>>571609931What's that got to do with my order?
>>571609871https://store.steampowered.com/app/2644440/BOCCHIFIELD/
>>571608828all the games that I play are fun thobeit
>>571609986>my orderdo you want fries with your seetheposts?
>>571610059are they good?
>>571608183Every time he posts ai slop, I telepathically let him know it looks like shit. He will never rest because I own his mind.
>>571609871and there it is, the copypasted response from a mentally ill person who will never post his progress but always deflects.this will be my last post on the matter since there is no point in arguing with you fagtroon, but i will lurk this thread every day and encourage people to move to /bantz/ so they don't have to be exposed to your mental illness, and wait until you kill yourself, the sooner the better for everyone
>>571610173all I hear is the lack of game
>>571610037No they aren't
>>571597895i hate shadowmap shadows, but the lighting itself could be realistic.guess its more of a preference.
>>571610228>>>/wsg/6155002
>>571611360>zoomer ""humor""
>>571588974Most important proggies are invisible and uninteresting. >>571611360she funnehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGKSi_Kr_BQ
>>571607669Crazy what an interesting concept and affordable price can do
the fantasy is everything
Not one single thing is everything. Successful games do many things well and very few things wrong.
>>571614029this mindset is how we get cris and fygoon lol
What is a good and low cost microphone so I can make those Branno videos?
>>571614512AKG has good cheap mics
>>571614512The little wireless clip microphones are basically as good as any stand microphone nowadays.
>>571614512shure sv100 or any equivalent
>>571573612Autotiling is pretty trivial to implement but your asset is missing outwards corners too.
/bant/ won /vg/ is a jeet shithole
'dites having a melt
How do we react to the third-worldification of videogames? Let me explain: In the late 80s and 90s and up to the 2010s videogames were a hobby exclusively for White nerds. Now that browns are entering the videogame market the games have to be simplified and can never have the same levels of complexity because of their reduced mental fortitude and non-Western upbringing. This leads to entire genres like RTS or ImSims dying and will also have ramifications on which indie games will succeed in the future (ball-and-gun games, gambling simulators, social-slop)
>>571616130you are too much of a pussy to post this on /v/ lol
>>571616130You can still play RTS games just fine You won’t
>>571588780woman moment
>>571589757I did... didn't hear back from a single JUNIOR position I applied to.
>it's the reddit midwit imsim nodev meltie episode again
>>571590787an ooeyrhymes with GUI
>>571592345The only way to get a job these days without nepotism/"my dad knows a guy" is either fast food, retail or blue collar.
>>571589757I already have a proper job maintaining a .NET SDK and an internal website for my company. I wish I had the time to just make game :(
>>571617450as a poor virgin friendless neet with time to make games on a poorfagstation.. you have the better life.
>>571617450Your job gives you a good relationship with your parents. Everyone else, constant offhand comments about how you should get a different job that pays better.
>>571492454How do I into level design
>>571620184think of what kind of levels you like to play.
>>571620365I don't play video games, like most devs
>>571620572Dont larp as me fucktard
>>571492454AI chads bad news DALL-E 3 is going down in the next weeks from bing chat....
I may have overdid the hip
lightning dude is in, ice witch is next in the pipeline
My custom game engine has a map editor inspired by Source 2 hammer now.Still working a bit on the UX, needs important features like splitting and merging brushes, and baking them into static mesh at author-time (saving the level still cooks the meshes automatically in clusters, but manual baking would be for more complex level geometry)
>>571624421AI chads in the house tonight
>>571624421No one builds levels like that anymore, you just make models in blender and compose them together. This type of shit is only done by Valve and all the Quake clones that jerk off over a 25 year old game.
>>571624421Damn bro you are living the dream. No idea why AAA retards abandoned this workflow. Keep it up!
>>571625014
>>571624421I also have a debug console with cvars and commands. My goal for the engine is basically "modern ECS but with cool stuff Source Engine offered for modability, debugging, and author tools"I plan on having native support for modding when I get the asset pipeline finalized. >>571624618We are so back.>>571624753>you just make models in blender and compose them together. Yeah, that shit is fucking nasty and that's part of why I'm making my own engine. Why would I want to waste my time going back and forth making "tiles"? Mind you, the engine still supports static meshes for level design - there are no BSP/VIS compilations. In the future, I'll also support instancing for repeated level geometry like hallways or columns, but even those will also support direct baking to static mesh format.
Task Bar Hero is actually quite nice. I can see why it did so well. How's Branno doing on his?
https://youtu.be/kyg4zwTX0CI?si=u2RPIz-n4dg5SBIMHorsey. :DNow to rig em.
This will be (you)
i don't use twxtter so doubt it
>>571626759It's utter slop. Uses that god-awful default engine lighting system. What did he do for 3 years?https://store.steampowered.com/app/3534750/Descent_Into_Darkness/
>>571627129I mean come the fuck on, this HUD looks like a placeholder.
>>571627336you made this game
Horsinald XD
>>571627336Those outline pixel artifacts from using the magic wand with no cleanup tells you everything you need to know about this game.
>>571627517Also...>AI-generated capsule artThis was just destined to flop.
>>571627336modern indie devs have no shame.Some guy put his talos principle demake in next fest, and it looked and played like he only spent 2 days on it
>>571627515EEEEEEP
>>571627129>3 year to make an AGP walking simMany such cases.
Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2026HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
>>571628504When the average game looks like this >>571627336then none of that matters.
I'll do itYou'll see
>>571626759What was he thinking?
>>571628736I think his AI workflow gave him a false boost of confidence when he should have scrapped the idea altogether and make a pixel game.
>>571626759That won't be me because I'd give up on the game if I see it can't get even 10k wishlists
>>571628662don't respond to him, that's fagtroon copypasting his doomer posts because he's a schizo nodev and wants to pull everyone down along with him
>>571628504you forgot about one thingI'm not like all those other devs
>>571628504Classic shitpost
>>571560596It's great and I can't wait for the finished version.>>571560812>promise belongs as its own DLCKike.>because it's too disjoint from the others.Won't be one the crossover starts.
when a flop looks like shit, everybody chimes in with their analysis of why it floppedwhen a successful game looks like shit, everybody chimes in with their analysis of why it's successfuleverybody's so smart in their POST-HOC analysis but no one has a successful game
>>571629556Why do you consider it a flop? It's an asset flip game made in a couple weeks that offers like 30 minutes of playtime that made $20k USD. That's pretty decent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rttLMT5AK-kisnt this the guy who made stardew?
>>571629965are you retarded?
>>571629931Fish is successful.>>571626759 is the flop but it doesn't look any worse
>>571630013Yes. Is that a problem?
Which do you prefer? Luddchuds do not reply.
>>571630103It does look worse, FISH has coherence in its ugliness, the other game is a mix and match of ugly edit artifacts, stretched icons, AA, high fidelity and low fidelity AI assets and so on. Additionally, looks aside, the short gameplay in FISH is actually somewhat fun if you like this type of games. That other game just looks like a complete slop, instead of a somewhat decently put together slop. Either way, gameplay >> looks. Which is why programming and direction is more important than art.
>>571627336>>571627517>actually this art is sublimely subversive and thematically cohesive and
>>571630103Fish has some semblance of sovl. NGMI if you can't immediately see that
>>571630524but anons don't know about gameplay, they just looked at screenshots and pointed out shitty assets as if that explains why the game flopped
>>571630540Shitpost games don't need to look good. It's part of the charm, retard.
>>571630540the unfunniest whiteboi you know makes "games" (rpgmaker slop) like this
>>571630653>sovl>nonsense word to explain why an ugly game is successful
>>571492454THIS IS INSANE WHAT AI WAS USED S AND WHAT WAS THE PROMPT??
Guys, just open up Steam on Firefox and sort by new and open 50 tabs of the first 50 games you see.99% of it is absolute fucking trash, a lot of it is also pure AI slop.
>>571631973>99% of it is absolute fucking trashdo you think your game wouldn't be in that group?
>>571632080fyridian response
>>571632216tranny response
>>571632080Yes? The ability to recognize trash makes you above all trash. The question is: can you be unbiased when gauging the trash levels of your own game?
>>571632514>The ability to recognize trash makes you above all trash.absolute retarded take, that's like saying if you can identify dumb people you aren't dumb
>>571632514>can you be unbiased when gauging the trash levels of your own game?unlikely>The ability to recognize trash makes you above all trasha nodev can't be above a yesdev
>>571629556I gave my highly rigorous academic analysis of why this was GMI the very first time I saw it. Perhaps, you simply have no taste.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/513812736/#513822369
>>571632080yes.
'dites dont even have gameid rather be a flopping AI chad than a nodev 'dite pedotroon
>>571632356>>571630503>>571630010>>571626254Based
>why is my game not selling guys :(
>>571633358OUCH!
>>571632640That... makes perfect sense though? Fell out of the shopping cart as a child one too many times?
this is your competition
>>571633358
i hope your game can compete with this
>>571633882Post your game
for the retards in the back who think im nitpicking, the games that look coherent and ambitious blow up relatively quickly
a trend i noticed is that every second failure or so uses AI assets
>>571634102how do you know this isn't using ai assets
>>571634361it's either AI or ms paint-tier graphics.these are the "hundred games that get released every day" that you have to compete against
>>571634548idgaf whether you use ai assets so long as it actually fits, but 99% of the time people use it in a way that completely destroys visual coherencyit's a very obvious red herring that the creator is a lazy retard who got into gamedev to make a quick buck using his ai subscription
>>571634807meant red flag o algo
I have to work on my game but I'd rather play a game of Master of Orion 1. The same one I always play: small galaxy, 5 opponents, average, human, red flag. Why do I want to keep playing that despite having hundreds of Steam games and at least 20 that I've never even played?
>>571635430It's fun = in your flow zone = gives you your daily recommended dose of dopamine.Other new games = have to learn = too high of a barrier to entry = not in your flow zone = does not give you easy dopamine you crave.
is there a worse thing that could happen to a gamedev than flopping?
>>571636228the game that flops:
the modern indie mindset of "sell anything you make, early" has been a disaster for gaming
>The developers describe how their game uses AI Generated Content like this:>- Code was written with Assistance of Anthropic Claude Code>- Character Portraits were created with Google Gemini>- Other Art Assets and Sound Effects were created using Python (matplotlib, wave) guess the review count
>>5716368636-13
even with AI assistance, making a game still takes more time than almost anyone is dedicated to pursuing.AI seems to actually be getting slower as it gets smarter so everything I ask it to do takes forever.
>>571637354You have to have proper AGENTS.md, create new sessions for every unrelated task, and keep compressing the context window between different phases of the same task within the same session.
>>571637472>this is somehow less work than just programming lol
>>571635950My strategy is to get a non-aggression pact with everybody straight away (human special ability) and then max out research to population and computers so as to maximize my production points while having only 3-4 planets. Then expand research to make ships that could defeat the Guardian of Orion and colonize it and have a planet with 4x research points. Then whenever someone declares war, I take all their planets except their home planet until I can vote myself into being president of the galaxy and get a good ending without genociding anybody. And if two enemies try to genocide each other I try to prevent it. I've been playing this game exactly like this for 30 years without any variation. I've been thinking what makes someone want to play this way and whether I can incorporate it into my game. Or if I should remake/demake MOO1. But maybe I'm the only weirdo like this and it wouldn't be a good game.Thank you for listening to my GDC talk. I no longer want to play MOO1.
>>571637589Yes? The agents file you make once and if you see the AI do something dumb you just ask it to write a rule for itself, the other two are just single mouse clicks.
>>571637736>if you notice your employee doing something dumb you ask them to write a rule to not be dumblmao
>>571637613>populationplanetology
>>571637832Not a proper analogy, tranny.
>>571637354>AI seems to actually be getting slower as it gets smarter so everything I ask it to do takes forever.I've noticed this. The slowness crept up on me. I used to enjoy seeing AI spit out code in 2 seconds and it just worked. Now I ask for a change and it thinks for 8 minutes and fucks up anyway
>>571636863could be made all from scratch it wouldn't make any difference
>>571637930>ad-homuh oh, no argument meltie!
>>571638008You ludlost
>>571636228Succeeding, thinking you have it all figured out, building a business around the idea of you having figured it out. And flopping so hard you become the laughing stock of the entire gamedev world.
>>571636228being a one trick who can only milk one languishing IP forever
>>571638237>Succeeding, thinking you have it all figured out, building a business around the idea of you having figured it out. it's very difficult to flop, all you have to do is to be better than pic-rel
Done
>>571627129>obvious aislop thumbnail And this nigga wondered why his game flopped
If you didn't play around with action figures and legos using the turtle van as an ambulance and the living room rug as lava you aren't creative enough to make it
>>571638419It will be easy for me to flop. I chose an underserved niche, and it turns out it's so underserved the audience starved and died out.
>>571638783post hairline
i just made ths meme based on the famous existing meme
I'm pretty decent at 3d, have been doing it for 8 years and already have a job at a game studio as character artist. I want to try making porn games in my spare time since im a gooner but animation eludes me. I only do the character models at work never the actual animations. I know how to do very basic rigs setups and keyframe animation but how the fuck do you get realistic looking jiggles, slaps, and deformations like pros like nyl2?I work in blender only. Any animators know and can give me some direction?
>>571638887I really do wonder what growing up with an ipad does to your imagination
>>571639035There is research showing it makes you smarter and your dick longer, yandex it.
>>571638783Action figures are for millennials. I spent my childhood watching YouTube on a tablet
>>571639035A lot of schizo horror games come from alpha/zoomer devs. What did they see?!?!? What was in the garten of the ban ban?
>>571638981>blender>animationjust quit while you are ahead
>>571638783The kinda guy who ends up making a 2d zelda clone, except it's a deck builder where you use cards for all the actions
>>571639359>. What did they see?!?!?their favorite youtubers playing 1st-2nd generation horror slop when they were growing up
>>571639407So, echos of wisdom...
>>571638981For 3D porn, pros usually use motion capture or tracking suits and clean up the rest.I recommend you spend 3-4 months learning the basics of 3D animation before shelling out $2000 for an expensive piece of equipment.I also hope your body is in good shape by then, because you'll be doing everything the female actress is going to do.
flopping is the equivalent of getting raped, unless youre using AI then it's not your body getting raped but the 3D printed body you made
>>571639407Don't forget that the protagonist has 1 pixel wide arms and talks like a redditor
I was today years old when I found out 4chan hates my game idea.
>>571639890>I also hope your body is in good shape by then, because you'll be doing everything the female actress is going to do.kek'd
Starting a new job soon. Really hoping that it doesn't make me too tired to do this stuff.
>>571640751>tireduse ai
>>571640751I'd drop gamedev in a second if I could get any kind of job
>>571640853Proof?
>>571640781hagdevs on suicidewatch
>>571640853I'd drop my job in a second if I were okay with being a homeless gamedev
>>571640851>>571640853I use AI for little things but it's not deterministic which rules it out for certain things. I didn't expect to get this job, I sort of got lucky.
i'll drop gamedev the second i make over 50k
>>571641224proof you got lucky?
>>571641538wdym, any software engineering job pays 60k+, unless you are an euro
>all these miserable wagie wannabes grim
>>571641834post tc
>>571641654>does gamedev>thinks that makes him employable as a software engineer
My base expenses (rent, bills, food, gym, hygiene products, cleaning products, barber etc) add up to 1061 USD/month. If I didn't need anything else (clothes, phone, whatever), I could easily live off $12-14k/year net a year. It should be possible to do it with crappy game/year.
>>571641937games are software which you engineer
>>571642091>thinks a crappy game would earn $12k/year
>>571642091>(rent, bills, food, gym, hygiene products, cleaning products, barber etc) add up to 1061 USD/monthdamn bro where the fuck do you live and only spend that much? here in vada i spend 2k just in rent
>>571642291Poor Euro country.
>>571642291lol i can literally do away with 200 a month
>>571642368ah i saw usd and though you were from here
>>571642373living with parents doesn't count
>>571641089that's kind of how I feel about it. I need this job but working on my game has brought me a lot of joy.
>>571642416No, just wouldn't make much sense to mention currency people don't know. Although I know a guy from remote area in Idaho who could support himself with that kind of money too.
>>571642574RON, HUF, BAM, RSD, ALL, MKD, MDL?
blood cave of doom sounds more like my style desu
>>571643105was this made in gemini?
>>571643784yeah
>open steam>no good games>close steamfuck
>open steamworks>no new wishlists>no new sales>close steamworksfuck
https://github.com/ca3works/ca3-2D-platformer-level-editorMade a level editor.Pls rate.:D
>"Made with raylib, gemini..."cris has fallen
>>571645557Post game, maybe I can give you a wishlist.
>>571525557You might like CDDA. I play every game as a farmer / scrap parts enthusiast. Wtf is this luddite poster? doesn't post any games they're working on. Surely it's against the rules to spam/ flood the thread with nonsense. Nobody is even arguing. What is this schizophrenia?
>1 wishlist a day>go to bed with 68>ready to wake up and screenshot it at 69>71FUUUUUAAAARRk
>>571647089I appreciate your breathtaking generosity but I must decline
>>571646665put it on itch as a webbuild
Is Claude becoming slower and slower a sign of my project becoming too big?
Me when I read this thread
I'm almost finished
>>571648590>ancient med BVLLs looking like germanic barbarianspedotroons cant do anything right huh? you should ask AI to teach you history vile 'dite
>>571648873stop seething at pedochads and work on your game
>>571649808Our 3D models are over at the /agdg/ discord server.https://discord.gg/DSzZa9K
>>571647118>You might like CDDA.I do have that buried deep in my backlog. Does it do that type of crafting? I'll take a look at the wiki at least.>Nobody is even arguing.That's for the best. Any attention is good attention to an attention-seeking retard.
>>571649808kys vile pedotroon
>>571650746here's that high-quality 'cord i was telling you about bro
>>571650945stop seething at pedochads and work on your game
>>571652221POW bodied that ai freak
>>571646968Welcome to the new reality chud
>>571652221
>>571650746>>571651432Oof, that's embarrassing
>>571648172which claude are you using? sonnet is still pretty fast. opus is slow.
>>571650923Oh yes, as an example, if you have enough strings you can replace rope, enough apples you can replace berries, a sandwich can be made a hundred different ways, etc etc.
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