Welcome to the Super Mario Bros. General, in this kingdom of ours here we discuss everything MARIO! Let's continue the Paisano journey!/smbg/ #348 - Touring edition------>>Current Mario News, Links, and Releases<<「!」Mario Tennis Fever has officially released!「!」Super Mario Bros. Wonder: Meetup in Bellabel Park has officially released!「!」Yoshi and the Mysterious Book has officially released!>Recent/Future Release Dates:「!」Nintendo Direct DK Challenge Event + Bananza Super Mario Bros Collaboration DLChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0ubSW5YfAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm5GgYkjMvY-NSO「!」mar10 Day Nintendo Classicshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5w3lAC4B5ISuper Mario Strikers – Nintendo GameCubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VOcz6Z5PRYWario World – GameCubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPq9Z2xgCYDonkey Kong 64 – Nintendo 64https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpz4TZ7CAsQ-Other「!」The Super Mario Bros Movie 3 is apparently coming in 2029https://mynintendonews.com/2026/05/22/the-next-super-mario-movie-will-likely-arrive-in-2029-and-they-want-to-get-it-right/---->General Paisano Linkshttps://www.mariowiki.com/https://www.suppermariobroth.com/>Netplay Guidehttps://pastebin.com/kZVHmZGR>SMA4 level editor (SMA4 Mods - Smaghetti)https://smaghetti.com/>SM64, Sunshine, etc. Mod ROM hacks [ replace () with a dot ]https://rentry()co/romhacks (Guide for newer players & for interest)https://romhacking()com/https://gamebanana.comhttps://sm64coopdx.com/>/smbg/ Anon Interest and Etc.Post any SMM2 / SMW levels ya' got!Post gameplay videos!Share your Strikers club and builds!/smbg/ link compilation: https://rentry.org/g6233fq8/smbg/ writeanon compilation: https://rentry.org/tv4fp8q5https://cytube/r/smbg/ (put a dot between u and b)----Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiQn5OLNUrMOP Template: https://rentry.org/84xasgm8Previous World: >>570582114
>>572291653Nakaue Mario concept art is always great.
Daisy, my beloved.
>>572294591sex boos
>>572300446You shouldn't sex the Boos.Just... just trust me on this.
>>572301179Nta but if you aren't playing then I'm taking both controllers.
>>572301179sorry but the boo tongue is irresistible.
Final verdict on Yoshi and the Mysterious Book now that the dust has settled?
new reddit recomphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYIZZZ33vAI
>>572307965Okay Anon, I'll bite. What's "reddit" about it?
>>572308423tag anywhere mod
>>572308581So don't use it?
>>572308679more like don't play it
>>572308775So do you just not play the original game because either the mod exists for it?
>>572307916very comfy game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8r7jF62Wk
>>572308938no, but it's reddit that the mod is advertised in this announcement, therefore it's infected with cringe
>>572309256
>>572307916Got me interested into yoshi games again, hope he keeps this energy
I love Luigi
>>572314982I hate Luigi
I have no strong feelings about Luigi
>>572322290
>>572293769
I'm responsible for 70% of the discussions around Rosalina over the last two years.Just pointing it out now that the discourse around her died down once I quit spamming that confession account on Twitter.
>>572339231Fuck you, apologize to Sparks of Hope now
>>572307916great game i hope they use this formula again.
>>572338619All these power-ups, and Superball isn't anywhere among them...
>>572300446
>>572340284No need to. I already did free marketing for that game by being virtually the only person talking about it and how it treated Rosalina.Almost all the posts about both SoH and Rosalina were mine.
>>572342680
>Wario 3D game>DKC by Retro >Daisy 2D game by Good-Feel>Donkey and Mario team up 3D game>Mario Galaxy 3Which one is more likely to happen?
>>572344056She'll be a companion in the next Paper Mario game, trust.
>>572347358this is a Twitter OC
>>572343515Could you explain this post to me :) I played a bit of sparks of hope but didn't get far enough to Rosa and I am interested in your opinion. I may even adopt it as my own!
>>572349543But I don't use twitter
>>572344840Wario 3D game and Donkey and Mario team up game.Retro is going to be busy with other projects and DK is being done in house now. Why Mario Galaxy 3 when a new 3D Mario is more viable? A Daisy game wouldn't be a bad idea but... I guess it has to be a game linked to Mario or Peach at the minimum.
>>572342680>>572347358slay queen
>>572307916 9/10 kino, and the only reason I'm not giving it a 10/10 is because the music is pretty weak.
>>572365950>watching this at the theater the day it came out>this scene comes on>can't help but think of Moonman as soon as the song starts playing>mfw
>>572375545Jumpman, Jumpman, can't you see? Koopas and goombas need to hang from trees.
Just played Mario Kart 8 online for the first time in a while and damn is it depressing. I just finished getting 3 stars on everything so I thought I was pretty good, but no, I am not good at all. I wish online play was ranked like Splatoon. I know it's not a perfectly competitive game but it's pretty competitive. It sucks getting shat on by people with 6000 more hours than me.
>>572375545Same
1-up.
>>572384798get to those youtube tech tutorials to own the sweats (by becoming a sweat)
>>572422848I want to fuck that spring.
I have Luigi fatigue.
Flat Peach!
Great news:It has been announced that the Mario and Luigi Nendoroids are set for their 5th Re-Release on january 2027!
>>572443557Nendo bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX8GpvwA3tY
>>572450805ook 4
Peach's soft pale big round jiggly butt!
Playing Mario Kart World again to check off P-Switch missions in Free Roam.Goddamn I love driving around the world!
Remember. Peach could easily defeat Bowser, but allows Mario to rescue her because she likes it when he does.
https://gofile.io/d/dEhTWaThe latest Free Roam tracks from Nintendo Music (Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart Wii) if anyone needs them; unfortunately in raw m4a format instead of mp3 or flac and thus untagged too
Will we ever see more Mario series nendoroids? Does Nintendo not want to collaborate with Good Smile on nendoroids anymore?
Does anyone here own the Mario Kart World racing jacket?
>>572465874Calm down, Bowser!
>>572499089Mona is so lucky...
>>572491647Maybe they didn't sell that well.
>>572507010what makes you say that, nintendo just doesn't like doing merch a lot for whatever reason, everyone asks them to do more
>>572507010Let's be honest, no company would re-release a product five times if it didn't sell well. Plus, it's Mario.>>572491647On that note, Nintendo might just be satisfied with GSC re-releasing the current lineup and aren't particulary interested in expanding the catalog, unlike HAL, which allows them to make ones for the full Kirby cast along with multiple variations.But at least they ain't game freak
1-up
>>572512071>>572516478My recent Japan trip and looking at Square Enix’s music label and taking a deeper dive into their releases cemented this for me; for a long time people have been asking Nintendo to treat their music like Square Enix does (as evident in the pic) but they haven’t been interested and when Nintendo soundtracks do get released; they’re all published under external labels/publishers; and the advent of the Nintendo Music app probably killed any chances that they’ll promote or commercialize their music further than it already is Sure they don’t need to because console and game sales are already profitable enough for them; but still…
>>572529735>Dragon Quest (Dragon Warrior)>(Dragon Warrior)Wow, that's incredible they still list it like that even after all this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8pjmHlQSAs&t=295Why does a console need to be literally the fastest selling of all time across an 18 month period to be considered not a flop?
>>572537163Why do you have to spread your filth all over the place?
>>572537163It doesn't. ND is just exploitation or as the kids call it "grifting"
>>572537163>giving slop attentionalso>>>/v/
>>572536141>>572536334Pretty good.
>>572536141>>572536334WaitI like this.
once again hoping for the assholes who designed rubberbanding in racing games and blue shells dies in a fire>Doing rainbow road in grand prix>Be ahead for the entire race>Literal final stretch is the first time a blue shell comes up>I get passed at the last secondfuck off
>>572536334>>572536141He looks great! Hoping for the standalone redesign plush to drop sometime this year.
>>572552056Skill issue.
>>572552056rip
>>572512071Still unfortunate, hope things change.
https://x.com/bbik_gam3/status/2062713345988542791
>>572553619https://x.com/bbik_gam3/status/2064700173474000917
>>572450805>dkc 4seeing more dkc mods lately, love it
New MK World update patch notes
2 new rallies have been added to Knockout Tour in this update - the Drill Rally and Boomerang Rally More rallies are planned to be added in future updates too
>>572491647I can only hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K07EL0OSG6Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB7V2rTuJ3Q
>>572560496>>572560097So do these actually have new courses or they just arrange the existing tracks in a new order?
>>572567294Knockout rallies, not Grand Prix cups
>>572560097>>572560496Mushroom Cup & variants continue to be as strong as ever. And Boomerang Rally already looks to be a great improvement over the Ice Rally when it comes to the Flower Cup variants.
>>572567294The latter.
Poison mushroom.
>mario kart world gets new content>general near deadfreaking grim
>>572560097>>572560496>>572563156Mario Kart World won
>>572592541We are all playing the game anon, we just didn't invite you.
>>572593284/smbg/ has FORGOTTEN about anon
>>572594107Just as well.
>>572592541>mario kart world gets new content>general near dead>freaking grimOutside of it being early in the morning, this generally means people are playing instead of talking.
>>572610776It didn't really get new content. There are no new tracks. The routes between these tracks already existed.
>>572611418We got new Rallies though.
coming soon...
>>572616918Do her boobs rival Pauline's?
>>572617236Barely from recent models, but no
>>572616918SEX
>>572592541This site is dead, anon
>>572617236Why would she? She canonically doesn't have big boobs and not having big boobs in a figure is accurate.
>>572611418ok and? knockout tour is the best mode in the gamenew rallies are essentially new content because the tracks were stuck in the open world.
>>572628584But it's not new content. All that shit was already there.
>>572629791At MOST it is a new way to experience old existing content.
>>572629967>it is a new way to experience old existing content.Which is why it's genius. Use more of what you have since you were the one who created the possibilities.
The final Knockout Tour will be the Rainbow Rally, and it's gonna be its own massive 6 segment Rainbow Road across the length of the map.
>>572632458Yeah, I completely agree with that.
it's hotter than a bitch today, fuck this heat
>>572645376rip
>>572645376are bitches usually hot?
>>572665034>'ello ladies. My name is-a Marry-o Potter!
>>572665034>Pasta Presto!
>>572657260Cute Luigi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyADrYCcBU
>>572678225kys shill
>>572678225This is how I found out that the new Fire emblem game is seriously 80 dollars
>>572684318It's £60 in the UK. Strange to see such a price difference.
>>572291653Is the breath of the wild dlc worth getting bros? I need something to play that's now new super Mario Bros U Deluxe..
>>572691393The switch 1 DLC? yeah it's pretty good, the car is pointless but the new dungeon is the second best in the game
>>572691678This is the switch 2 edition bloody benchod!!>carWhat? There's a car in Zelda?
>>572592541It barely qualifies as new desu
>>572684318honestly it makes sense, RPGs are very dense games
Decided to rank the MK World characters and costumes.
>>572691393The BotW DLC was really fun and challenging, and if you like the game's mechanics, you'll definitely get your money's worth out of it. Personally, I think the BotW DLC was the reason TotK failed to resonate with me, since it just felt like even MORE DLC, and the original already pretty much pushed the mechanics to the limit.Anyway, to keep it Mario-related, I know I'm a slowpoke on this because it's over a year old, but have you guys seen the Mario anime fandub from MarioRadioShow on youtube? It's pretty brilliant in that the performances are all kinda bad, but in that charming, dated way from before the west took anime seriously. And they actually did an authentic, 80s style dub where all the original Japanese audio got dumped and the dialogue and OST were redone from the ground up, including new songs with English lyrics and authentic 80s f-synth.The walking song has been living in my head rent free for the past 24 hours:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB3ZLPXO-hw
>>572560496>DrillDrill mechanic update confirmed
>>572678225You forgot to mention how the next Paper Mario will be 80 dollar a pop, fartlo shill.Also i hate how the new game is claiming it's focus on 4 different main protagonists, but we clearly see Jesus Fire Emblem Christ the Avatar front and center.
>>572710340>the performances are all kinda bad, but in that charming, dated wayit helps the project had a dedicated voice director who knew what the fuck he was doing. Most fan-dub projects are just people recording their lines in private and emailing them to the sound editor, so you get all different kinds of performances and audio quality and it just makes the whole thing sound extra-unprofessional, especially if they're going for a "professional" vibe.The Mario animu fandub was a relatievely small cast working with similar or identical recording equipment under the direction of one person who new what it needed to sound like (basically, *slightly* unproffesional). It's objectively one of the best fan dub projects I've heard because of that.
>>572710340>>572722265Don't shill here.
>>572725116It's a year-old project that was made and distributed by fans for free. I'm not "shilling". I'm enjoying things related to Mario and I want to talk about them. If that confuses or annoys you, I do not care.Stupid fucking faggot.
>>572728727>I'm not "shilling"NTA, but you're actively shilling your fandub. I can only assume you had some hand in it, or did you pay Patreon money or something?
>>572732632>anyone analyzing and speaking at length about their appreciation for a piece of media MUST have been involved with it and/or is trying to shillI genuinely pity you. Your brain has been rotted by non-stop internet discourse and irony-poisoning. Seek help.
>>572734624I can tell anon is shilling because he's talking about behind-the-scenes production stuff instead of just saying "Hey, I like thing". It's not hard to figure out.
>you're not allowed to know anything about stuff you like anymore
>>572692152He means the motocycle.It eats up all your shit that you collected so better have a lot of stuff prepared.
Hey gimmickfag, keep your bouncer bullshit towards smash shitters, actual /dbs/ spics, and e-celebs, because you're starting to be another troublemaker idiot.
The jakkks galaxy movie second wave is coming!>Flying Mario>Cloud Luigi>Brand New Peach>Regular Bowser
>new 3D Mario project, new potiential Wario Land game, and new traditional Metroid next year>and a healthy fucking amount RPGs to play next yearI am FUCKING spoiled.2027 is going to make 2017 look like a joke.
>>572746725was there another direct?
>>572751160Two days ago there was one for Splatoon Raiders, followed by Treehouse Live.
>>572745246>starting
>>572751502they announced 3D mario, wario land and metroid at the splatoon direct?
>>572753390No. But to answer your next question before you ask it, those are all from leaks.Only the Metroid one has any legitimacy, as it came directly from Brazil’s Ministry of Justice and Public Security.
>>572754238But to be fair, anyone thinking a new 3D Mario isn't in development is crazy, so that's legitimate too.
I get why they changed it, but Mario 3's orange and red fire outfit was pretty fire.
>>572754238i knew about the metroid one, but the rest sound like bullshit guess work
>>572756932Wario Land stuff is from the guy who first leaked Star Fox '26, though he also said it's not a direct related rumor.Malo### whatever his name is
>>572629791*shit that you can only experience in fucking free roam
>>572762609it's some sort of no name leaker however like half of his list have come true now, and with metroid 6 leaking his list is becoming even more credible.it's why people are taking him seriously now, with some people guessing it's nate under a different alias.
>>572684318it's 70physical doesn't really count because stores will just end up selling it at the digital price.
SMRPG is better than Earthboard
>>572765240
>>572765240What's the hell is an Earthboard?
>>572766050A slab of granite that boosts your speed in D&D.
>>572765240Shut up, Falco.
>>572765240But worse than PM64, SPM, and all the M&L games except Paper Jam
>>572764876Get that bullshit out of here.
>>572764876Sexy
I got so pissed off at Smash Bros I removed the cart from the console, chucked it against the wall and it bounced off to the twilight zone, it's nowhere to be found
>>572784382Maybe you should follow it for posting off-topic trash.
>>572784647Maybe you should kill yourself
Ellie coming back. Parry when?
>>572762609Who would even be developing a new Wario Land?
>>572291653
>>572788297i'll let anyone try at this point
How would a hypothetical Mario anime adaptation work?
>>572798386Half comedic half serious like the Mario RPGs.
>>572798386It wouldn't.
How are you enjoying Mario Kart World’s updated photo feature?
>>572809246>>572813075Lewd stickers.
>>572809246the mkw stickers are very customizable...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6g5atz-CFY
1up
>>572798386First of all, the art direction and character designs have to be based on Yoichi Kotabe's/Shigehisa NakaueSecondly, it has to have comedy and then some srs business moments with a minimum droplet of edginess.Thirdly add the Donkey Kong characters (but erase the Cranky Kong bullshit so that Mario and Pauline are Jumpman and Lady as they should)
>>572835273just go with the "kongs age faster than humans" meta with Mario and Pauline if they can't rewrite Cranky kong lore
>>572835273>>572838985Bananza already made Arcade DK a different character to Cranky and DK.
>>572838985 I mean they can totally rewrite it or keep it ambiguous if they want it.But trying to put any if the fan theories to work in the canon of the games is retarded, I always thought that the "kongs age faster" one was ridiculous because it sucks that Kongs lifespans are greatly reduced, but I used to go with it because that's the only thing I could sort of justify Cranky Kong having his supposed past, but nowadays I think it's doubly ridiculous because at this point, we would have been at the 7th generation of Donkey Kong descendants if that was canon, that theory is as retarded as any theory is just to accommodate that shit about Cranky. They all revolve about it and it's all mental gymnastics. Last year was crazy reading all these people going on about it in the discourse.It was fine for some years and a fun wink to the Arcade roots but looking at it now, retconning Cranky's meta shit won't significantly change anything in the bigger picture, especially now that we have Bananza who is a bigger love letter to the Arcade game.Personally, If I had the choice to retcon the Rare Cranky "lore" or to get rid of the Rare created characters I would totally choose the former one. Nothing of value is lost and Cranky's character remains essentially the same.>>572839553 How? Because of the fossil?
>>572841549Yeah, Cranky can't be the arcade DK if the arcade DK is a fossil.
>>572809246Adding a "vertical flip" feature to the stickers would be nice.
>572344840>Wario 3D gameKino but Nintendo feel that only Warioware is viable>DKC by RetroAfter Metroid I'm wary at Retro but a 2D platform is not AAA enough>Daisy 2D game by Good-FeelBetter than another Yoshi game>Donkey and Mario team up 3D gameWould be the best way to finish the Odyssey/Bananza trilogy>Mario Galaxy 3The only way that would happen was this year because the film so not happening
>>572841549>>572841809The devs confirmed that the fossils were just references and weren't connected to the overarching lore
>>572850678Even aside from that, only the English version and all translations derived from the English version has Cranky reference being the original DK so it's been cut.
>>572344840>>572848020
>>572856121But the english version is also the canonical version because it has young Pauline's VA wheras other languages has her only for the songs.
>>572865631not how that works but okay
>>572865631The Japanese text is the only canon script. The script in the English version is not strictly canon for any Nintendo game. Only possible exception may be the primarily western developed Nintendo games but I'm not sure how the script writing process for that works.
>>572866089>>572866713>singer is also the voice for the girl who's singing rather than being two seperate peoplethat's canon in my book, and nintendo could easily rewrite the localization if it doesn't fit their vision for the mario franchise, since mario and dk is more popular in the west than japan.
>>572870295>that's canon in my bookYou don't write the book so it's a moot point. Mario is voice acted in English but that doesn't mean that the English text is the true text. >nintendo could easily rewrite the localization if it doesn't fit their vision for the mario franchise,I don't think Nintendo cares much beyond the more text heavy games like RPGs which did get rewrites when they got remakes. As a primarily Japanese developed game, the Japanese script is the only canon.
>>572872317There's no "only canon" in these games, they don't even think about canon as much as you think they do. English and Japanese is the same for them.
>>572873017>English and Japanese is the same for them.Two different nintendo departments, the one's who made the first version is the more canon one.
>>572873017Usually I'd agree that canon doesn't matter, but the Bananza devs seemed to really highlight canon in interviews with how vague they were about where the game fits in.
>>572874242They did say that Banandium only exists in the Donkey Kong Bananza universe, so it might be its own separate thing. As for way they're still coy about Pauline, I personally think it's due to her still being considered a Super Mario character by Nintendo themselves, which is not surprising considering Donkey Kong is its own separate IP.
>>572876835>They did say that Banandium only exists in the Donkey Kong Bananza universe, so it might be its own separate thing. As for way they're still coy about PaulineNTA but source? Even then Bananza has tons of past games within it that is clearly connected to Super Mario verse.
>>572878102NTA but I remember the interview he's talking about, it's tricky to find it since it was one of various ones, but basically the journalist asked if DK was eating rocks and he said that you can figure that Banandium, which is "unique to the setting of DK Bananza" is a form of substance that is both equivalent of lava and minerals and also banana fruits and that the fact that the world's core is composed of banana stuff doesn't necessarely mean that in all other Mario games the same holds true. Like you can figure that in Mario games the lava popping out of volcanos is lava and not banandium.
>>572665034Mario if he follow the way of the Zawgyi
>>572878530Bananza's deep layers have normal lava like Mario's. Only the core in this DK game is filled with a lot of Banandium (iirc it's just a floating section to house the Banandium Root, not the entire area of the core). If any character story can have new lore about the core of the planet, Donkey kong is one of the least egregious since he's apart of the first game with Mario.
>>572291653Favorite powerups? I find fire flower to be the most reliable. I really love the weird esoteric ones like boomerang mushroom
>>572882110FUCK I meant boomerang flower
>>572882110Super Mushroom.
>>572876835>>572878102>>572878530It think it's funnier to imagine that, through all of the Mario games, the core of the planet is made out of bananas (and that it's yet ANOTHER wish-granting macguffin, citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom seem to be spoiled for choice with those).It's actually kinda poetic, now that I think about it. It's like saying that, no matter what the Mario series does, Donkey Kong will always be at the core of it all, even if the big ape himself never shows up in the flesh.
It is cold here today in Sydney and I wish I had Peach to cuddle.
>>572878530To be fair, only the very deep parts of the planet have banandium and we haven't seen the deeper parts in Mario games so it wouldn't contradict anything. Again these interviews are just being coy, you could take it as them saying you won't see banandium because they won't explore this area of the planet again, so it's "unique" to Bananza.
>>572865631Anon, ever since Mario 64, there have never been any issues with having some Mario characters being voiced by both American/English VA and having others being voiced by Japanese VAs, if anything that's sorta part of the identity. Jenny Kidd was particularly selected by Nintendo of Japan because of certain characteristics of her vocal skills for gameplay reasons. NoA just did the logistics. That's why every other international VA was chosen because their overall vocal timbre was close to Kidd's.However, that has nothing to do with localization and whoever was the idiot fuck at NoA Tree house who thought it would be "cool" to make up some dialogue and shove it to Cranky for no reason, better be aware just in case Shiggy comes out and btfo him for any reason because there was no reason to put that dialogue there where there was nothing to put there in the first place. This screams "it's not true, but if I repeat it again and again it's gonna become true", like shipperfaggots or powerscalers every time their headcanons get destroyed by author intent.So no, the Cranky dialogue in the English version is not valid nor canon. Honestly, there was no need for them to put it there, if you think about it.
Thinking about it, I do think it's interesting that the English voice acting is prevalent even in the Japanese release of the games. You'd think they'd have their own Japanese VAs to say all the little catchphrases.
>>572894165If Nintendo had an issue with Cranky's English dialogue, it would've never made it into the game. But the dialogue existing does line up with Nintendo being open to different interpretations of DK, so what's the problem?
>>572897524Oh, to be so naive.
>>572892453The thing is that this is Mario, a franchise that out of nowhere decided to retcon Kamek's entire life in a random Yoshi game just because they felt like it, so what is canon doesn't really seem to matter at all to the people making it, and I'll be honest, I think I like it that way. Makes it feel like it's free to do whatever the fuck they want to.
>>572898234Ever since late Switch era, Nintendo has had an iron grip on localization, they've even confirmed for certain games they even have the devs themselves work with localizers.
>>572902854TTYD got censored a lot
>>572902854Pffhahahaha. All that means is that the taint of localization is ingrained even within the Japanese versions of games. The only iron grip is the one Localizers have on foreign media.
>>572912216
>>572912216Mario's eyes... They're staring right through me..
Firework Mario.
barbeque
>>572903373In japanese, yes.
Super Fucking Mario
>>572912363>>572912216All of the toys from this shit film are shelf warming in my walmart. It's amazing how hard they fumbled this.
who remembers
favorite underrated mario game?mine's mario + rabbids sparks of hope
>>572965078Mario & luigi partners in time
>>572965078Sparks of Hope would be my pick too.
>>572965078Mario vs Donkey kong (i had fun with some of the less liked entries)
Most likely weight classes for Diddy Kong, King K. Rool, and Void Kong if they hypothetically end up as DLC characters for Mario Kart World:Diddy: Midweight w/ Smooth, Rough, or Water specialization (Peach, Yoshi, or Bowser Jr. for stats)K. Rool: Super Heavyweight (Bowser for stats)Void: Lightweight or Midweight w/ Smooth or Rough specialization (Toadette or Toad for Lightweight stats, Peach or Yoshi for Midweight stats)
I don't want onions kongs, I want new costumes for Pauline.
>>572965078Odyssey
>>572988446He was talking about underrated Mario games, paisano. Not overrated Mario games.
>>572950032Lion King didn't come out until 1994
>>572989697fuck uhhMario Kart 8
>>572897524Don't be stupid.Nintendo of Japan has its own idea of who Donkey Kong is and Nintendo of America has another since the Country series. Miyamoto simply didn't gave fucks over "lore" and as such at the time, while giving too much fucks over other aspects so we get all these inconsistencies over the years. >>572902854Nintendo of America has also faced criticism over localizations. We can't say for sure if Japan 100% oversees anything or if only oversees the original script, only for some Burgerfag localized to put whatever they like just because. He loved the Rare setting but we don't really know his honest opinion about Cranky's supposed background, even if he apparently likes the character (we know this because of other people, never from his own mouth) Bananza is proof that there's not enough grip.
>>572994136>He loved the Rare setting but we don't really know his honest opinion about Cranky's supposed background, even if he apparently likes the character (we know this because of other people, never from his own mouth) Bananza is proof that there's not enough grip.With this, I mean Miyamoto
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Happy 4th of July, anons!
Happy three days late Canada Day, Anons!
>>572994136LATE switch era. If you haven't noticed, a lot of regional stuff are being torn down. Rhythm heaven is another example, no more regional music.
>>573000427Not very patriotic colors there, Loogi
>>572994136>Nintendo of Japan has its own idea of who Donkey Kong isAnd yet they purposely made Bananza vague when it comes to its relation to both Odyssey and the Super Mario series.
This era of Mario lore will be retcons and vagueposting, just like the Yoshi game. Koizumi loves vagueposting and since he's the new Miyamoto we'll get plenty of both.Buckle up.
>>573009205Good.
>>573009205it's pretty clear as day imo, it only seems vague to people that don't want to accept the implications of the new lore
>>573009205We need a "Vaguepost Queen" edit with Young Pauline.
>>573013173forgot image
>>573010818NTA but literally the only thing that breaks the Mario/DK timeline when you think about it for more than 3 seconds is Teen Pauline since the devs says she only exists because of "gameplay" but somehow still has story relevance. This general spent many threads speculating Mario lore for her and never got a clear answer of why she's a kid in this game. When you try to glue cranky kong and dkc stuff being in the same game as her debut, everything falls apart. The new DK stuff outside of that isn't as bad, New Yoshi stuff fits too. Teen Pauline only is manageable in a vacuum where she isn't attached to any other part of the lore.
>>573013956nta but she's a teen? I thought she was younger
>>573014150You have to look through dev statements, but she's like 14 in bananza. Should probably use "Young Pauline" as a catch all term like this anon >>573013173The general switches from calling her a kid or teen though
>>573013956New Yoshi does not fit at all. We have various games where Kamek is right there properly named and characterized.
>>573013956dk bananza would be a great explanation of why king k rool was gone for so long if the new pauline stuff wasn't so confusing, a deaged plot point would have fixed everything therenew yoshi lore is mostly fine but the real wrench is it tries to say kamek didn't raise bowser to adulthood>>573014663new yoshi lore is less of a lore wrench than young pauline since we never have seen kamek with a middle aged bowser, only kamek with baby bowser or adult bowser so the retcon doesn't erase a game or anything but it is kind of egregious
>>573008853"Vague" with what?With the possibility of Cranky not being the original Donkey Kong?Because Odyssey made it clear Pauline is Lady, Mario Jumpman and Donkey Kong being Donkey Kong.There's no Cranky in this equation.Pauline in Bananza is young Pauline whatever it has transpired between her and DK years later, a fallout, loss of memory is left to be told.
>>573013956>NTA but literally the only thing that breaks the Mario/DK timeline when you think about it for more than 3 seconds is Teen PaulineYes and no.She only "breaks" anything if the setting gives priority to the idea of Cranky being Donkey Kong "in the past" . Because Jumpman is Mario. The one that breaks the " timeline" and should be retconned is Cranky's "background"
>>573014150She's 13 years old. Stated by devs. Because usually 13 years old is some sort of "checkpoint" on a kid's development.She looks younger because unlike her Odyssey design, she has cartoonish proportions as Mario and Co.I think you would remember Mario and Luigi's cousin in the movie? Young Pauline is around that age and with similar proportions.
>>573015585NTA but Cranky kong is literally in the bananza equation here, which causes the Mario/DK timeline to break with Young Pauline.>>573015873If Cranky is the original donkey kong (which DKC 1 visually confirms by the intro) than Young pauline doesn't make sense being in the same game as Cranky kong and where dixie kong explains all dkc events already happened. You can't even "West/JP localization text" it away since the game visually has DKC stuff in it too. (If Dixie kong says something different in japanese, I haven't checked)If Cranky isn't the arcade dk, the dixie kong lore and other dkc stuff in bananza still makes Young pauline confusing. You'd have to both change Cranky Kong to JP Cranky kong and remove all visually DKC references to make Young pauline somewhat work.
We're doing it again, trying to explain all types of ways young pauline does or doesn't fit in the mario loreIt's the devs fault for making her only a gameplay vaguepost since adult pauline couldn't fit in it without explaining why she's young here, we don't have a clear answer so we'll never truly figure it out.
>>573016253And you'd also have to retcon the dkc 1 intro. DKC is a UK made game before coming to Japan and US. So JP Cranky kong there isn't exactly JP Bananza Cranky Kong which apparently has no DK arcade references.
>>573016253>but Cranky kong is literally in the bananza equation here, which causes the Mario/DK timeline to break with Young Pauline.Cranky Kong can perfectly exist without any allusions to the background forced by Rare. He's been doing it well for several years by now, actually and shaping up to be his own character without any of that meta shit. That made up localization text in Bananza be damned.Honest question: what makes you believe that Nintendo is more willing to retcon Mario and Pauline's arcades selves into two randos to preserve some meta stuff they didn't even add from a character they didn't even create? They are not strangers to retcon stuff and they have been consistent with Mario being Jumpman, Donkey Kong might have been Donkey Kong all this time and DKjr is absent because he has yet to be reintroduced... As Donkey Kong's son.
>>573016449That's what I was getting at. Young Pauline is the biggest thing that truly confuses the Mario timeline. Even the new kamek stuff can fit in it even if it's weird.
>>573016695>you'd also have to retcon the dkc 1 intro.They can perfectly leave the DKC1 intro and still retcon Cranky notion that he's Donkey Kong Arcade, because by all meanings, this is a Donkey Kong game.>>573016449No, 90% the mental gymnastics are around the idea that Cranky Kong is "the original Donkey Kong from the Arcade". Pauline nor Mario are the problem. Never were.
>>573016449Young Pauline only hurts "lore" if you take Cranky being OG DK seriously, which no one should since a fuckload of stuff Cranky does and says are fourth wall breaking gags.
>>573017839>Young Pauline only hurts "lore" if you take Cranky being OG DK seriously, which no one should since a fuckload of stuff Cranky does and says are fourth wall breaking gags.You can't decide which is a gag or not to prove selective narratives. Cranky kong's debut literally has him in the Arcade being overtaken by a new DK.
>>573017839young pauline being unexplained the whole game hurts all types of lore, way more than the cranky stuff what are you on
>>573017042>Honest question: what makes you believe that Nintendo is more willing to retcon Mario and Pauline's arcades selves into two randos to preserve some meta stuff they didn't even add from a character they didn't even create? I'm not saying that. We're saying that Mario and Pauline ARE still there arcade selves (Odyssey glues that) while Cranky Kong and DKC lore is in Bananza.>>573017442>No, 90% the mental gymnastics are around the idea that Cranky Kong is "the original Donkey Kong from the Arcade". Pauline nor Mario are the problem. Never were.It's not just Cranky Kong, bananza also makes it clear DKC history is prior to it. So Young Pauline (not Adult Pauline) is most of the mental gymnastics that the entire internet was confused by. Yes, most people don't know about JP Bananza and are firm believers of RARE lore, which makes it seem to you like Cranky Kong = Arcade DK stuff but JP Bananza still has the Rare DKC stuff too. Young Pauline only existing by "gameplay reasons" is the biggest confusing thing. The devs need to give more detailed reasons for us or we'll always run in circles.>>573017839DKC stuff is still all over bananza, it's not just Cranky kong.
>>573017839>le gag or not a gagThis is also a thing /smbg/ spent weeks on, we've exhausted all of this with no clear answers from devs, a brand new young version of a long time character being practically unexplained is the most lore shaking.
>>573018165>*their arcade selves>*which makes it seem to you like Cranky Kong = Arcade DK stuff seem like the only problem but JP Bananza still has the Rare DKC stuff too
>>573018165All I see with Bananza is Nintendo taking and preserving DKC stuff, but not necessarily any of the "lore" supposedly behind it (most of it is not in the games themselves), they just choose the ideas from there with tweezers that seemingly do not represent any potential notable repercussions and use them as deep cut references or easter eggs. Cranky Kong as a character can perfectly exist without that concept behind him. I mean, he already works out without it in the movies setting, who's to say he's not doing the same in the games?It's useless to take like
>>573019057>All I see with Bananza is Nintendo taking and preserving DKC stuff, but not necessarily any of the "lore" supposedly behind it (most of it is not in the games themselves), they just choose the ideas from there with tweezers that seemingly do not represent any potential notable repercussions and use them as deep cut references or easter eggs. I think we need to see what Dixie kong says in japanese to truly add this to the explanations. English Dixie kong clearly says DKC 1, 2, and 3, have already happened at this point.>Cranky Kong as a character can perfectly exist without that concept behind him. I mean like I said, they can retcon the dkc 1 intro if they want to. Wouldn't be the first big retcon. Though Cranky Kong in any version hasn't implied he isn't the original DK yet. Him not mentioning it in JP doesn't mean he denies the history.
>>573018165>DKC stuff is still all over bananza, it's not just Cranky kong.Why are you insinuating that Cranky not being the original Donkey Kong ereases the entirely of the DKC setting?It's not. It's just one meta aspect from a secondary character that of it gets ereased literally nothing would change.
>>573019387This is all fair.It all amounts to time to tell.The devs did state they went to Miyamoto to ask about who Donkey Kong is as a character. We don't know what he said. But Personally, I doubt Cranky had any relevance in that conversation.
>>573019423DKC's legacy starts with the DK arcade intro, and another DKC game starts with Cranky kong reminiscing about the Arcade days.Then DK64 just has that lore all over it. Like I said they need to actively retcon this out to truly have Cranky kong as you say "a solo kong character with no prior history". JP bananza not mentioning it but also having DKC stuff still supports it. Something like "Cranky Kong was just taking DK's spot for a bit and listening to music, he wasn't the actual Arcade DK" would kind of work as a retcon to it. Though it doesn't explain the background change.
>>573019779I don't see this Cranky kong lore as much of a problem though, why can't the bananza creators retcon young pauline to be "randomly deaged" instead of just a gameplay device.
>>573020321I'm just listing ways for both sides to be less confusing. All in all. I want the devs to supply more bananza answers for Young Pauline. The DKC and Cranky Kong stuff can't really be removed from the game at this point, but Young Pauline's unexplained lore can be explained with some quotes.
>>573019779I can't see it as you do, anon.I really can't. Cranky being the Arcade DK is treated as a meta joke in its entirely.Cranky wouldn't be reduced as a "random Kong with no previous history", but more like "This elder Kong is Donkey Kong's shortempered grandpa". But let's take that specific example and try to apply it to Mario and Pauline. It won't work the same. Because it carries the implication that Mario and Pauline are some sort of "legacy characters" to the Mario and Pauline from the arcade with no fanfare. And Nintendo has always been consistent that Mario is Jumpman, which logically makes Pauline Lady.But Cranky Kong? The idea was interesting but that being retconned won't affect his character in the same level it would affect Mario and Pauline. Almost anything else in the DKC setting wouldn't change. Not even the intro that references the Arcade era, since it's just that, a reference.
>>573021165>Cranky being the Arcade DK is treated as a meta joke in its entirely.I can't see it that way. So we'll have to agree to disagree.The DKC1 intro and DK64 reframes all the "funnier" Arcade DK references from Cranky Kong into actual lore and Bananza seems to clearly want all of DKC era to be acknowledged. I also don't see this affecting Mario and Pauline's arcade status like you do.
>>573021673And this me talking because your earlier post is without a clear source, anon. If there's some quote saying it's a complete meta joke for it's complete entirety and that they now don't think of Cranky as OG DK, then I'll take that as the "retcon" that I earlier discussed to retcon the intro out. If they can add Young Pauline out of thin air, then they can give us a quote that officially changes Cranky Kong away from his old lore. An added explanation on why Young Pauline is young would also be nice.
>>573019387>I think we need to see what Dixie kong says in japanese to truly add this to the explanations. English Dixie kong clearly says DKC 1, 2, and 3, have already happened at this point.Says the same thing in Japanese Donkey Kong Bananza >ディディーと協力して DKを助けたこともあるの!>Didī to kyōryoku shite, Dī Kei o tasuketa koto mo aru no!>"I've even teamed up with Diddy to save DK before!">つまり アタシたちは DKの ゆかいな仲間ってこと! 覚えといてね>…Tsumari atashitachi wa Dī Kei no yukai na nakama tte koto! Oboetoite ne>"...So basically, that means we are DK's fun crew! Make sure you remember that, okay?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iusNqrOek7s
>>573023276Based.
>>573022274this is me talking*And also of course, Bananza devs need to explain this clear can of worms here >>573023276
>>573021673>>573021165>>573023276>>573023905I think Bananza just has selective memory every section of the game, though this is just unconfirmed headcanon. A mine monkey also implies DK has never "made a name for himself" to the land before Bananza, so this makes things even more messed up when DKC is confirmed for being before bananza. It's like the game wants to be a prequel and a sequel at the same time (along with being a prequel to Odyssey with New Donk City being here)
>>573025131devs should confirm that random monkey was just asleep during all that time or is forgetful, there's a lot of things that they could clear up
I drew a Lou
gay luigi
>>573025535>Get-a me out of here...
>>573025131
>>573025131To be fair, DKC is kind of isolated in both it's story and locations, compared to Super Mario.Rescuing the Princess by travelling kingdoms compared to recovering your bananas or friends from solitary islands.
>>573023276>confirms DKC happened before Bananza >>573028336>single clip contradicts DKC being some of the first games of the DK storywhat a confusing game>A headcanon timeline without this clip (and diminishing Cranky Kong's lore) would probably look likeDKC to Bananza to DK Arcade to Mario vs Donkey Kong (to Wrecking Crew?) to all the other Mario games before Odyssey to all the Mario games after Odyssey >A headcanon timeline not acknowledging Young Pauline age messThe usual Mario timeline but with having Bananza take place before Odyssey then the rest of the Mario games after it.
>>573032324>>573023276>A headcanon timeline without this clip (and diminishing Cranky Kong's lore) would probably look likeI feel like you have to also label the Adult Mario reference in DKC as a non-binding joke >DKC to Bananza to DK Arcade to Mario vs Donkey Kong (to Wrecking Crew?) to all the other Mario games before Odyssey to all the Mario games after Odyssey I'd also place Yoshi's island era events as happening during the events of Bananza (Might have to write out Baby DK or change him into DK JR or have Yoshi's Island take place way before DKC) But yeah this timeline is already all over the place including young pauline>>A headcanon timeline not acknowledging Young Pauline age mess>The usual Mario timeline but with having Bananza take place before Odyssey then the rest of the Mario games after it.I think that's practically what the devs themselves think until they inform us of more bananza data.
Pauline talks about her grandmother so much that you could interpret her as being Lady.
>>572314982FUCK LUIGI
mario no
That's prank tier in this series, mario had a 1-up for him
>>573041247rest in pepperoni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JOdELnYAA
>>573055259I remember you from when i was at kirby general, though iirc you at least make 1 part of your post general related. Don't see how exactly this one is related besides...rhythm heaven sharing an artist with warioware?
>>573032324Funny enough, it can also work as a sequel since DK could be one of arcade DK's descendants who has yet to make a name for himself. That would definitely explain why New Donk is still called New Donk.
I've shared my theory before but I think every DK generation has the events of the arcade happen to them one way or another.
>troonanzaHeadcanon by westeners, the franchise ended at 64
half the reason this shit with the DK timeline is so confusing is that the devs are being annoyingly coy with how Young Pauline fits into all of this (they're also refusing to acknowledge k. rool, i guess because he's a spoiler)hopefully they cut that shit out after the game's anniversary and start giving us some straight answers
>>573023905There's not much to explain.Bananza comes after the DKC SNES series/DK64, probably even the Retro Duology as well. What they really need to explain is not Pauline, but Cranky Kong, and that's probably going to be as quietly as possible
>>573033249That's an interpretation we could make, but that might not be what Nintendo intends.
>>573033179>I feel like you have to also label the Adult Mario reference in DKC as a non-binding jokeThat's pretty much the same how Cranky Kong's idea of being the OG DK is if you think about it. It's meta stuff that is not supposed to be taken seriously story wise.
3-starred the Drill & Boomerang Rallies today and completed all the P-Switch missions. Now I only need the # of Races stickers and one more Peach Medallion to 100% base Mario Kart World. It has been a long journey, but it's finally drawing to a close.
I feel bad for zoomers who got into Mario and end up headbutting against the fact that the series has no consistent lore because they can't grasp tbe concept of a series that runs on Looney Tunes logic.
>>573025131To be fair DK island is an isolated place that only a few Kongs inhabit and apparently no Kong has ventured into the Kremling Hemisphere before Diddy/DK/Kiddy/Dixie/Funky went, so it can be worked out
>>573032324>DKC to Bananza to DK Arcade to Mario vs Donkey Kong (to Wrecking Crew?) to all the other Mario games before Odyssey to all the Mario games after OdysseyThis would be it.>The usual Mario timeline but with having Bananza take place before Odyssey then the rest of the Mario games after it.Also this
Anyone go to AX? How was the tournament?
>less than an hour>page 10?
>>573079121Must be a fast day.
>>573065215>Bananza comes after the DKC SNES series/DK64, probably even the Retro Duology as well.We need confirmation on this.>What they really need to explain is not Pauline, but Cranky Kong, and that's probably going to be as quietly as possibleBoth need explanations.
>>573081517>We need confirmation on this.Are you fucking kidding me? LOOK UP. >>573023276
>>573081771>>We need confirmation on this.>Are you fucking kidding me? LOOK UP. Already looked at that >>573023276There's this too >>573028336Which is why we need more confirmation.
>>573081871Confirmation of what? You wanted proof it takes place after DKC. You got it. There's your confirmation.
>>573081871Do you think some hick monkey cares that DK got some bananas from a bunch of crocs?
>>573082096>Confirmation of what? You wanted proof it takes place after DKC. You got it. There's your confirmation.I meant confirmation on what the other line means (and why the beginning of the game is portrayed as DK's first breaking from the working class mold) since it contradicts the former currentlyAlso confirmation that it takes place after the retro duology like you also mentioned.
>>573065215>>573081517>>573081871>>573082463All that's really confirmed is that Bananza is after DKC but before Odyssey.
>>573082404>>573082873I guess we can put the miner monkey stuff as "throwaway line" for now.
>>573082463It's reasonable to assume DK is a big nobody outside DK Island. Think about his past adventures. They have been all self-serving and taking place in relatively isolated areas. Whether it's recovering the banana horde or being rescued himself by Diddy and Dixie, or simply trying to get home after being ousted.This is completely unlike Mario who goes and rescues a Princess on the daily, something that would garner attention from the wider world.
>>573083034I don't want to think everything DK has done in DKC times is complete "nobody" tier, (I feel like taking all the bananas would garner attention from all monkeys since K rool wanted to starve them) but I'll take multiple perspectives and leave it here >>573082976
>>573083246The news simply isn't going to spread outside DK Island.
>>573023276Dixie kong is so cute.
>>573083246>I don't want to think everything DK has done in DKC times is complete "nobody" tierDK is a big fish in a small pond. Who cares about DK Island being saved if you're not a resident of DK Island?
>>573083034>>573083246>>573083359>>573083729dk is the most famous fabulous kong, this is SLANDER
>>573084057>dk is the most famous fabulous kongOn DK Island.
>>573084057Dk stealing Mini Mario toys most likely got way more attention than his DK island adventures.
>>573084165>DK is...infamous tm
>>573081517Cranky more than Pauline. If this is teen Pauline, which almost everything points out she is, then all that needs clarifying is that Cranky is the original DK or not. Whether is on a statement from the devs or the characters creator. I concur with whoever said Nintendo wouldn't give priority to one character they didn't create over the two characters they did create(three characters if we count Donkey Kong himself, not Cranky), especially when one of the characters serves as the literal face of their company.
>>573084057DK sometimes is heroic, sometimes antihero.
>>573089571>Cranky more than Pauline. If this is teen Pauline, which almost everything points out she is, then all that needs clarifying is that Cranky is the original DK or not. Whether is on a statement from the devs or the characters creator.We still need more clarifications on why she's suddenly a teen. It's the most vague thing about the Donkey Kong game.
Keep in mind the only reason we're in this mess is because one (1) person at Nintendo thought adult Pauline riding DK was too weird.
>>573090401And it would've.Not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLAfJ31bWgc
They could've just deaged her too, but no they decided to rework the entire timeline.Maybe there's something happening behind the scene for a more cohesive Mario worldbuilding, who knows.
>>573092658Or maybe... Just maybe... They don't give a flying fuck. Look at how the Mario Movies are now being considered canon moving forward despite the numerous contradictions.They do not care.
>>573092843Mario movies are it's own timeline because there's a huge mischaracterization issue
>>573092843>Look at how the Mario Movies are now being considered canon moving forward despite the numerous contradictions.Source?
>>573093541NTA but Miyamoto in his movie ramblings mentioned he "thinks" the movie rosalina and peach backstory could be put into the games. It doesn't confirm if he's actually doing it.
>>573092843>>573093541>Look at how the Mario Movies are now being considered canon moving forward despite the numerous contradictions.An game update a month after the movie still has the original backstory intact. So we're still safe.>>573093938This.
>>573093938And where did he mention the movies would be considered canon like you said?
>>573094385I'm not the other anon.
>>573094796Anyways, this doesn't mean the movies are canon, in fact it's the opposite as Miyamoto specifically mentioned the backstory of Peach, not anything else.
Also, Miyamoto didn't specify what parts of the backstory he wanted canon. What if he genuinely just wanted the part where she's not native to the mushroom kingdom.
>>573090121But anon they already stated that they originally tried with adult Pauline, but they decided to deaged her for gameplay reasons, after that, they settled her that her age had to be 13 years ago because they were aiming for her character to have a development arc and 13 years old is usually a more development age.
>>573095201My other post wasn't disagreeing with you. There's no direct claims of it being canon yet, Miyamoto is just saying stuff about the backstories. >>573096279The quote you're referring to is responding to someone saying "what about Peach's expanded backstory" for Movie 2 questions directly meaning it's the rosalina stuff too.
>>573096582>But anon they already stated that they originally tried with adult Pauline, but they decided to deaged her for gameplay reasons, after that, they settled her that her age had to be 13 years ago because they were aiming for her character to have a development arc and 13 years old is usually a more development age.And that explanation is literally nothing since they still want to have their cake and eat it too, tying this 13 year old character to the story without explaining why she is suddenly 13 years old besides arbitrary gameplay. We need way more official clarification than this.
>>573092607Kino.
>>573090401We are actually in this mess because in the 90's Rare went out of their way and wanted their OC to be the Megaman X to Donkey Kong's Classic Megaman but shittier, which was an already complex situation because Nintendo didn't want Donkey Kong Junior's design to be drastically different to what Rare envisioned him, which in turn gave us Diddy Kong's character at the expense of Junior's ambiguous to zero existence for over 30 years while Mario stayed exactly the same character wise, so does Pauline.It's just that at the time we didn't gave enough shits until we did and now we are making up justifications for Cranky's "past" and blaming anyone, including Mario and Pauline characters because they supposedly "don't fit" in the picture when in reality it's Cranky the discordant element here and it's the elephant in the room most don't want to address, because making Cranky not being the original Donkey Kong answers the reason why Donkey Kong Jr is absent because he's not born yet.
>>573096864And that's by stating Donkey Kong has always been Donkey Kong, just like Mario has always been Jumpman
>>573097989>Shifting the blame to Rare over a game they had no hand inNope. Not Rare's fault at all.
>>573098306You're shifting the blame to Nintendo for doing what they want with their own characters.
>>573098151>And that's by stating Donkey Kong has always been Donkey Kong, just like Mario has always been JumpmanMaking Young Pauline even more confusing with the next to none clarification we have on her. Sorry, but you're not going to make her any more believable, if anything it makes it more unclear.
>>573098306Anon Kevin Bayliss did say that putting Cranky as the "original DK" was their own idea and that's how their view him in their own heads. Might not be the same for Nintendo of Japan and its devs.
>>573098410Yes, Nintendo is entirely to blame.
>>573098560Tell me how is young Pauline confusing without bringing up Cranky Kong.
>>573098774>Tell me how is young Pauline confusing without bringing up Cranky Kong.You just did that yourself and Cranky Kong wasn't even brought up. Also scroll up, many posts were made on why she's confusing. You keep plugging your ears trying to make her work when she literally doesn't.
>>573098746Maybe Nintendo of Murrika, because Nintendo of Japan never abided to the idea not was consistent to it at best.If they were, the idea of a young Pauline wouldn't have made the pass in the first place.
>>573098883You're not answering the question, anon.Again, how is young Pauline confusing to "the timeline"? Her presence simply implies that Bananza is set before the Arcade game, before the rest of the Super Mario games, before Odyssey but after the DKC series.Where's the confusing thing here? Please point it out. And don't bring out Cranky Kong's background because you would be confirming that Cranky is the issue here.
>>573099527>You're not answering the question, anon.>Again, how is young Pauline confusing to "the timeline"?>Her presence simply implies that Bananza is set before the Arcade game, before the rest of the Super Mario games, before Odyssey but after the DKC series.>Where's the confusing thing here? Please point it out. And don't bring out Cranky Kong's background because you would be confirming that Cranky is the issue here.You literally just said "simply implies" which still is nothing but headcanon without confirmation.
>>573090121Is it really?It's pretty obvious that the point is: Donkey Kong had fun adventures with his friend Pauline. When he met her again 10 years later or so, he forcefully grabbed her, expecting to go on an adventure with her again, without thinking about the fact she's no longer a child. Mario kicked his ass and they made up.Bananza is obviously supposed to happen before the Mario games. The real questions are:>Did Cranky actually kidnap a woman and fight a moustachioed man as he keeps referencing, or is he just senile (which is the general reason why he keeps breaking the fourth wall)? If he did, then that obviously wasn't Pauline; are Jumpman and Lady separate characters from Mario and Pauline?>What about DK Jr.? Is he a separate character again? After all, either DK kidnapping Pauline and fighting Mario is what we see in the Arcade games, or it is what we see in the Game Boy game; either way Mario also fought DK Jr. Does DK actually have a son after his own series and during the Mario series, does that explain DK Jr. being in Super Mario Kart and Mario Tennis 64?
>>573096582>but they decided to deaged her for gameplay reasonsWhat gameplay reasons? What, did they think her adult version was too big to ride on DK's back?
>>573099527Bananza is only confirmed to be before Odyssey, not before DK arcade. New Donk City still has post-Dk arcade all over it and Dk arcade is one of the fossils, and that would say if DK is the same OG DK Adult OG Pauline being suddenly young makes zero sense and why would the same DK from bananza suddenly start kidnapping pauline constantly.
>>573099989>It's pretty obvious that the point is: Donkey Kong had fun adventures with his friend Pauline. When he met her again 10 years later or so, he forcefully grabbed her, expecting to go on an adventure with her again, without thinking about the fact she's no longer a child. Mario kicked his ass and they made up.Complete headcanon.>Bananza is obviously supposed to happen before the Mario games. The real questions are:Not confirmed.>>Did Cranky actually kidnap a woman and fight a moustachioed man as he keeps referencing, or is he just senile (which is the general reason why he keeps breaking the fourth wall)? If he did, then that obviously wasn't Pauline; are Jumpman and Lady separate characters from Mario and Pauline?>What about DK Jr.? Is he a separate character again? After all, either DK kidnapping Pauline and fighting Mario is what we see in the Arcade games, or it is what we see in the Game Boy game; either way Mario also fought DK Jr. Does DK actually have a son after his own series and during the Mario series, does that explain DK Jr. being in Super Mario Kart and Mario Tennis 64?These are questions that also should be brought to light again, but everything else also needs official answers.
>>573099716>You literally just said "simply implies" which still is nothing but headcanon without confirmation.Then I'll switch it to shows that it is indeed set in the past, it's just that I'm still giving a courtesy here to leave some room for doubt.Unlike the ones that are bent in saying this unnamed character Pauline mentions like thrice in an optional dialogue is the absolute "Arcade Pauline/Lady" without considering Jumpman is Mario, yet still considering Cranky is OGDKand you still haven't answered the question.
>>573099989>>I can use my headcanon on young pauline shit, but EVERYTHING that's been there for decades including the cranky kong lore should be conform to the unexplained pauline shitSensing a double standard here.
>>573100571NTA but read what I've written here >>573021165
>>573100551>>You literally just said "simply implies" which still is nothing but headcanon without confirmation.>Then I'll switch it to shows that it is indeed set in the past, it's just that I'm still giving a courtesy here to leave some room for doubt.>Unlike the ones that are bent in saying this unnamed character Pauline mentions like thrice in an optional dialogue is the absolute "Arcade Pauline/Lady" without considering Jumpman is Mario, yet still considering Cranky is OGDKSo where's the source then if it's indeed supporting your made up timeline, also people just gave you more stuff on how Young Pauline confusing because of the lack of confirmations. I don't know why you want to keep looping arguments. Until the devs give us more things, it will always be just headcanon vs headcanon for this new unexplained version of the character.
>>573100860Still see a double standard there >>573021165.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo did retcon some things from the Country games, but all I ask for is some clarification so that the new version of the timeline they've made makes sense, instead of them being coy about it.
>>573101081They're probably being coy about it because Miyamoto is not present in those interviews.I'm actually surprised someone hadn't asked him if Cranky is really the Arcade Donkey Kong.
What I'm seeing from pro-Young Pauline posts is conflicting logic>"She doesn't mess up lore. It was "explained", the devs say she's only just there for gameplay because she can fit better over DK, her age doesn't matter"But when you say that's not really explained since she is still part of the story while still not being detailed on her full history.>"Young Pauline matters and now makes Bananza before almost all the Mario games."Both logic can't fit each other. Especially the unconfirmed latter logic.
>>573101081>>573101778>>573102839It's just going to be headcanon wars for the Mario and DK lore to try to fit this in until the developers give us more information. It's contagious to talk about because we can see a puzzle piece clearly being left out of the full picture and we try to force it in ourselves. It's interesting discussion but exhausting since we see know clear end where things stand currently.
>>573103510exhausting since we see no clear end*
>>573100159>Bananza is only confirmed to be before OdysseyNot really. The devs were pretty coy about that as well.
https://x.com/Checomal/status/1033884941522747393
Maybe Suzannefag was onto something.
>>573104535that's this current bananza discussion but taken to severe extremes, everything posted so far this thread was sensible compared to that anon
Holy fuck you people are retarded sometimesSo how y'all doin tonight
>>573104535>>573104857To be fair, Bananza Pauline and Regular Pauline being separate entities solves the lore issues
>>573111974No it doesn't. Why is there a little clone of Pauline running around?
>>573111974No, it doesn't. It creates the same type of issue Cranky Kong existence (or better said what Rare has tried to attribute to him because there's nothing wrong with the character himself) added. If anything it doubles down the problem. Because Mario is Jumpman.
So what would you consider truly beating the 2D platformers: just getting to the end, getting to the end on a single credit/using no Continues, or 100% the game in the case of the later entries in the series?
>>573113524>beatgot to the end>complete100%
>>573111974>girl named Pauline who sings and comes up with a melody in the postgame that the other Pauline who also sings also coincidentally had in her song
>>573112069>>573114548It makes sense if BPauline is Pauline's daughter or maybe her niece
Odyssey, ya see!Odyssey, ya see!
why did they make dr mario a separate entity from mario?
>>573111974It does, but a lot of autists on here can't seem to grasp the idea of a series having multiple continuities. You would think Zelda would've taught them a thing or two about that, but I guess not.
>>573111974just make it:>lady from donkey kong>regular pauline>Bananza paulineand it fixes the lore inconsistencies
>>573115764This isn't zelda, autist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17K1n6Jlp5o
>>573116939And Mario?
>>573115764>"It's all the same Mario."
>>573113524Making a 100% game day, scheduling around my job.
Kind of surprised we haven’t seen much from Bananza’s official Japanese strategy guide. Really curious if it adds any additional info about the story/lore like those things usually do.
>>573118290Jumpman is mario's father, boom
>>573041247Super Mario Esencia
>>573068662Ravenous plot leak
>>573115408It's more an alter ego than a separate entity
>>573125340Use to follow this guy's art religiously during my DeviantArt kid days
>>573129534It can't. Jumpman is Mario.>>573123738To be honest, wouldn't the Japanese have said anything about it at this point?What surprises me more is that no one has gotten it for translations in any case
>>573129649>Super Mario Esenciakys spic
>>573130282jumpman being mario's father makes sense through
>>573130796nah
>>573130796Nah, it's the cheap and shitty way to justify Cranky's shit
>>573130796No.
>>573125248Mario and Pauline loos kinda cute in this quasi hannah barbera style, but damn, DK was so goddamm ugly in this Jesus Christ
>>573130796Then we'd have to use the Old Cranky kong lore to make Donkey kong into 2 or 3 separate kongs again to accommodate for Pauline and Mario being split to different people.This is almost as convoluted as Young Pauline's vague existence, even if it can plug some of the holes around young pauline. I think we just have to deal with the confusing retcon era of Nintendo for now until they get their heads together to fix things more properly themselves.
>>573130796i agree, but i'd rather nintendo just directly confirm it rather than adding more confusion when it's not confirmed at this point
I love how Cranky Kong and Young Pauline is at the center of all this Mario lore discourse.
>Keep the Cranky Kong lore vs Dump the Cranky kong lore
>>573132090Keep, but Mario developers have the final say.
>>573132090i can go either way
>>573132090I'm under the "kong's age faster" interpretation. So I want to keep it while still having Mario and Pauline only 1 person.
>>573132090dump
Here we go, off the rails
Speaking of DK lore, I want to know why the Orang-utans turned on the Kongs in DKC 1. They throw barrels at you whereas all other apes and monkeys you encounter are on your side.
>>573137954this should have been DK bananza's plot: Mankey Kong tribe's revenge
>>573138254manky kong*
>>573137954different monkey tribes than donkey kong's, i guess
Yo
>>573096582>we could have had a game where Adult Pauline's soles were constantly pointed at the cameraWorst timeline.
All of this could have been avoided if people who put pronouns in their bios hadn't tried to put their stamp on Donkey Kong by replacing DK with their donut steel characters and adding girl bosses because they thought they could do better then the original japanese devs who made the game.NoA was always a mistake.
>>573151473When did that ever happen with DK? Even that cancelled Vicarious Visions 3D DK game I'm pretty sure didn't have any of that and was cancelled by Activision not Nintendo.
I think it's fucked the SMRPG remake came and went despite being a successAll I say were tranny sympathizers online shit on Geno and suck Mallow's frog dick because of "muh character development"
>>573156962*All I sawAnyways, what I mean is that we got no new merch besides a Music CD and a guide with SOME concept art, both under Square Enix's labelsNo new merch, no plushies, no figures, not even amiiboWhich is funnier in retrospect because for the original release there were loads of merch in Japan
>>573156962You can't blame people for preferring the well written character over the wooden one.
>>573158483>You can't blame people for preferring the well written character over the wooden one.NTA but both characters have backstories of where they came from and what they're trying to protect. But because one of them cries a lot of he apparently has "le more personality"
>>573156962Obsessed
>>573158483>>573162503Disingenuous
There's nothing wrong with Geno being a nothing character, I'm not sure why people here can't accepy that.Yes Geno is just someone that wants to defeat the bad guy and nothing more than that, yes there are some people that prefer Mallow because of this since there's a bit more to him, so what? Why are you still angry three years later when everyone has moved on?It's not like these characters will come back anyways.
>>573163494>Yes Geno is just someone that wants to defeat the bad guy and nothing more than that,There is more than that> yes there are some people that prefer Mallow because of this since there's a bit more to himCrying then... not crying?
>>573163619Please explain Geno's character more than being a stoic defender of the stars.
People who have a hateboner on Geno are double standard faggots (who still haven't moved on btw) Geno has as much (or more) to him as Mallow, literally the story can't continue without him, he just doesn't like to be emotive. And people complain about something not have tons of personality in a series like this (another double standard). Many characters can fit different roles.
>>573164021If you're referring to my post, nowhere did I state I disliked Geno, only that he doesn't have much going for him and that's fine. He serves his role well as a stoic character.
>>573163765You just listed another thing Geno has. Mallow can be described by a single text line too.
>>573164243Mallow has the game focus on his character, Geno only continues the plot as his role in the game isn't meant to be something the game explores. Geno is in this case the mentor character and usually stories focus less on these characters in terms of development. Mallow, despite not having much either, still has more due to the very nature of his role.
>>573130485Mario went canonically to Mecicot
>>573164708>Mario went canonically to Mecicot>ESL spic can't even spell. Mario doesn't originate there.
>>573130485>>573164917No racism here, paisano.
>>573165009>>573165009>No racism here, paisano.No spics here, paisano.
>>573164243Characters with identity issues just get wanked (especially these days). Geno knew who he was, Mallow didn't. Simple as that. Just being a dumb fuckup gets you undeserved love.
>>573165181We are tolerant toads here. If you want to be racist there are other threads.I'd prefer not to bring Mario here.
>>573165387>We are tolerant toads here. If you want to be racist there are other threads.>I'd prefer not to bring Mario here.This isn't a hugbox newfag.
>>573165485I am the oldest oldfag here, we are tolerant.Away with you, villainous goomba (not to be confused with civilian goombas whom I harbor no hatred for as I am tolerant)
>>573165608>I am the oldest oldfag here, we are tolerant.>Away with you, villainous goomba (not to be confused with civilian goombas whom I harbor no hatred for as I am tolerant)You're a newfag goomba, I'm onto your tricks.
>>573165181>>573165387>>573165608Why do you only come up when shit spics are involved but are never around when other types of racism is posted. You aren't morally fair at all.
>>573130485>>573164917based paisano
I like Geno and Mallow. They shouldn't be put against each other.
>>573164917>>573165181>>573165485
> >>573164917> >>573165181> >>573165485 >>573166964You never post this when there's racism with other races here. You let other shit slide. You aren't actually tolerant. Actions speak louder than words. Mario wouldn't approve of you.
>>573166964>>573167242Tolerance doesn't mean accepting everything with a smile. If people do stuff to break your tolerance, you fight back. It's the Mario way.
>>573166964>>573167242>>573167242Putting a feather on your head is a form of race mocking. He's tolerant but would allow some race banter.
>>573167410no shit nigga you are going to fend yourself that doesn't mean he's racist
>>573168708>>573168696
>>573161986>NTA but both characters have backstories of where they came from and what they're trying to protect.And one has more beyond that basic note so people prefer that character. I think it's sad that Genofags can't appreciate that the remake made people like other SMRPG characters because they thought it would just create Geno fans.
>>573168846>NTA but both characters have backstories of where they came from and what they're trying to protect.>And one has more beyond that basic note so people prefer that character. I think it's sad that Genofags can't appreciate that the remake made people like other SMRPG characters because they thought it would just create Geno fans.Crying isn't being more than that note.
>>573168846People can't enjoy SMRPG without needing to attack Geno for Mallow or other petty shit, and that's why it's brought up in the first place. But of course only genofags can do wrong in your biased eyes.
>>573168963We see Mallow grow and evolve. Geno stays the same from the start to the beginning. Geno is one-note but if you want people to like your one-note it has to be a good one, which Geno doesn't have.
the SMRPG remake created more fans for all the characters, but only the hateboner geno antis make things a dick measuring contest against 1 guy constantlyyou literally can like mallow without shitting on others, it's not that hard
>>573168776Nta but maybe he doesn't know what it means, but these types of spics deserve getting shit on either way
>>573151950Wokey Kong Country.
>>573156962Smashfags love Geno though
>>573170393>Smashfags love Geno thoughBig Lie, those smashtards are most of the people that he's talking about
>>573170485I've never heard anybody ask for Mallow in Smash.
>>573170559I mean the rosterfags that act like Geno killed their grandma.
>>573169649>We see Mallow grow and evolve. Geno stays the same from the start to the beginning. Geno is one-note but if you want people to like your one-note it has to be a good one, which Geno doesn't have.Crying and then not crying is one note, maybe 1 and a half note at best. Both Mallow and Geno have a backstory and are fighting for something because of that backstory. After both their intros they don't really get much unique cutscenes until they reach their goal and that's that. One being more emotive doesn't make them objectively better than the other, there's nuance to be liked in not being emotive too, which people who like Geno can see. And you act like it's the game itself when most people that are shitting on him are doing it because of disingenuous biases even before playing the game.
>>573132090Dump.Because I just got reminded of what Konami tried to do with Ganbare Goemon in the early 00's. And it failed. The only difference is that with Donkey Kong's case Nintendo never really asked for it and decided to not being consistent about it. I like Cranky's character, but he can stand on his own without that lore.
>>573151473Nice fever dream, anon, but you need to take your meds now.
>>573170210OK, I was expecting it to be a jab at Bananza, but I guess Rare did drank from the 90's SO RADIKOOLAID, when making DKC which was well, fitting for the time it was done, but I don't remember any "girlboss" in any one the entries.Dixie is competent but a sweetheart and Candy Kong was (and is) such a non entity that her identity is mainly associated to her balloonmelons and that's it. If anything it felt a bit insulting to Dixie to make her take care or a baby while trying to save Diddy and DK
when someone brings in a buzzword into their argument i usually ignore them here because they're either a shitposter or someone so emotionally attached to their topic it's best to stay clearso i ask you /smbg/>favorite toad color
>>573180637red toad red clothes
>>573168696he's not mocking, he's accepting. he's allowed that feather.
>>573180847not how that works...
>>573181023*twists your pepperoni*
>>573168696>>573180847>>573181023>>573181782He put it on not knowing what it means, but where the feather is placed does have cultural appropriation drama behind it. Which makes using the image for this specific purpose contradictory.
>>572710340I caught the anime fandub last summer and thought it was really cool. But yeah, it didn't seem to really make much of a splash in the Mario community, which might be for the best because then Nintendo might have targeted them. I guess there just isn't quite enough of an overlap between autistic 80s anime dub fans and autistic Mario fans, so it had limited appeal. Especially that we have actual Mario movies you can just go see in a theater now.
>>573164021He does get sad and saves his words before facing Smithy, when he tells Mario "And when the time comes..." as in, he knows he HAS to leave as soon as the last Star Piece is collected and is sad about it.
>>573174267Imagine a sequel to a smash hit named after the main male character but the male lead is barely in it because he was kidnapped and some new female character has replaced him.Am I talking about modern Disney films or DKC sequels?
Mama Luigi
>>573156962It's a remake of an old SNES game that most people who wanted to play it had already done so by pirating it. What conversation would it really raise?
>>573130485>he doesn't know the meme is making fun of turbo spics and european edgelords>the ones who think Dragon Ball is all serious about blood and edgeyes, keep barking, you twit.
>>573165814because obviously i'm not using this general at all times, my dear paisano.
>>573170393The Geno hate and favor obsession is both Smash autism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsA5Lu_hmGo
>>573206172SoulSoulless
>>573206172i wonder why, that game looks strange in general
>>573206172It looks like WarioWare now
>>573132090I don't think they'll dump it entirely, but I think they'll recontextualize Cranky into being a descendant of arcade DK, most likely coming from a long line of Donkey Kongs.
>>573156962Because it was a major downgrade>item inventory changes make it so piss easy you don't even feel any pressure to use Peach>Added post game is all puzzle shitAlso, yes, Mallow was always the character of value in the game, even back in the original.
>>573204808i doubt it, dear paisano, this is like the 4th time i've seen your typing style only show up to defend one type of racism and not the others, you let other shit slide all the time
>>573211047>It looks like WarioWare nowisn't that the point
>>573216789Gross.
>>573220065You're gross.
>>573208552It's pretty obvious when you play the game that the reason they changed the art style to those vector-based illustrations is because it makes it easier for them to modify the assets for the variations they do of each game during remixes and during repeated stage concepts.
>>573113524I'm collecting 100%s, One Piece at a time.
>>573223697>>573223869Old Wah.
Imma Luigi! Numb
Mario will become real.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHo8EskQTVo
>>573113524100% with the shiny stars if applicable.
>>573236837I hope not, Mario scares me.
Thoughs on this?https://youtu.be/hQUzC909PaE?is=5B4rqxiAbNveh42p
>>573238904H I R E
>>573214140>Peach went from most useful to least useful character in the remakeFunny how that went down.
>>573231574Cute kong.
>>573125003>>573125248
>>573249380
>>573257162fun game.
>>573202679This, plus it didn't really add anything. I know there's this whole class of remake-enjoyers who want remakes to be as faithful as possible to originals, with few, if any tweaks or new content so as not to "shit on their favorite franchise/childhood". Mario RPG and Link's Awakening were in similar boats; they're both remakes of classic games with strong cult followings, but neither really did anything to spark any conversation that hasn't already been had in the past 25 years.>>573156962>I think it's fucked the SMRPG remake came and went despite being a successThis is because, as we've all said, the games didn't offer anything to talk about that fans haven't already exhausted.>inb4 HURRRR BUT MUH NEW FANS!!!The harsh truth is that modern fans are fucking garbage. Zoomies and alphas are incapable of engaging with any media beyond surface-level because of irony-poisoning. It's cringe to care about things, now. These fuckers don't have the power levels required to be a part of a fandom like we had in the old days. The thought of making dozens of unfunny sprite comics or writing an embarrassingly bad fanfic about your favorite game just so you could even HAVE more content would "yikes" and "oof" them to death.These days, there are more 3+ hour video essays than any zoomer has time to watch (while simultaneously doomscrolling, of course). You can have continuous content about every facet of your current obsession without ever having to create, talk, or even THINK about it yourself. We're seeing a degradation not just in the quality of games, but the quality of fans as well.
>>573258794I'm glad that new fanfiction filth isn't being made. You made awful fanfiction and were utterly deranged over a franchise aimed at children.
>>573259512>new fanfics aren't being madeNTA but that's false, fanfiction never stops. Especially for giant franchises like these.
>>573211047>>573223726>they changed the art style to those vector-based illustrationsWhich is weird because this is just what every previous Rhythm Heaven has looked like, whether for practical or stylistic reasons. If anything, the previews from last year seemed incongruent with the entire franchise.>>573259512>*self-conscious pearl-clutching and dismissive negativity noises**yawns*
>>573259715The age of peak fanfiction is over. It'll peter out to only a trickle where the remaining writers ostracise themselves over and over again within their communities until there's barely a community when everyone has beef with each other. That's the future of fanfiction. Not to mention AI completely devaluing it.
>>573259512>>573259715I never said new fanfiction wasn't being made. I said new fans suck at engaging with the things they are allegedly fans of. Those are two different statements.I blamed the quality of fans, but the full explanation is that there are simply too many normies on the internet now, which has an effect on the quality of internet fandoms. Back in 1998, if you were browsing a webring for fanfics and sprite sheets, you weren't a normie. Heck, if you even knew how to use a computer to do that shit in the first place, you weren't a normie. But now any irony-poisoned cunt with a smartphone is occupying spaces they really shouldn't be, and spewing pathetic, self-conscious bait like, "You made awful fanfiction and were utterly deranged over a franchise aimed at children."Yeah, we had no shame, dude. We were in online spaces where kids and normies were too stupid to gain access and we didn't care how indulgent or "cringe" we were being. It was wonderful.>>573260606>The age of peak fanfiction is over.I think you can probably find better fanfiction today, in general, than you could 25+ years ago. It's just more insular, and is only going to appeal to people who already read a lot of books to begin with, thus there's not as much crossover there with casual/all-ages stuff like Mario. Zoomies and Alphas are fucking illiterate and can't even be arsed to read captions in a tiktok video without an AI generated voice shouting it at them.
>>573261583tl;dr
>>573211047Warioware but everyone is either tan and brown (like Fire Emblem)Is this the new diverse strategy Nintendo is doing?
>>573211047its the same artisthttps://x.com/Kosan_Takeuchi/status/1699510195683201271
>>573231574Needs an exed-eyes pussy edit
>>573263156>t. adhd zoomer that was specified
>>572710340I watched the original 4k fan restoration of the OVA a few years ago when it came out because the only thing I heard about it was "Mario gets cucked by a dog". But it's funny how even that plot point is misrepresented by midwits. The dog was already betrothed to the princess before any of this was on the table. The dog is the one who leads Mario to the mushroom kingdom in the first place, and he goes on the exact same adventure and overcomes all the same challenges that Mario does, arguably saving his ass multiple times despite the notable handicap of being a dog.
>>572710340>>573270748>>572722265Why can you never bring up this OVA movie without the "cuck" shit. One of the reasons I hate to see it around because it almost always will go to that point eventually. The dog literally thanks Mario for all he's done, and wouldn't have been able to do shit without Mario's help around the Mushroom Kingdom, there's a bit of confusion and even this version of Peach can see it and is visibly sad about the situation. Mario ends up treating it as a good deed for her in the end. Mario even beats up Bowser so bad Bowser ends up working for him, but no, people just always want to focus on the le misconstrued cucked shit. It's practically the identity of this movie. I'd rather talk for days about any other Mario movie since the OVA discourse is so obnoxious.
>>573272364mario ova was just a shitty attempt to sell some noodles anyway
>>573272364Two of the posts you quoted talk about literally everything BUT cuck shit, and the third specifically talks about how the cuck shit is stupidly misinterpreted and amplified by fans, which is something you agree with, ostensibly.The real problem is that this general doesn't talk about much of anything because anons are just looking to be reactionary or antagonistic while putting in the least amount of effort possible, which is probably why you replied to three posts without actually reading them. Sasuga.>I'd rather talk for days about any other Mario movie since the OVA discourse is so obnoxious.So do it. What's stopping you? Personally, I'm a big fan of every Mario movie. I think the weakest is the 2023 origin film, but I've got a lot to say about all of them, as well as The Super Show.
>>573274435>Two of the posts you quoted talk about literally everything BUT cuck shit, and the third specifically talks about how the cuck shit is stupidly misinterpreted and amplified by fans, which is something you agree with, ostensibly.>The real problem is that this general doesn't talk about much of anything because anons are just looking to be reactionary or antagonistic while putting in the least amount of effort possible, which is probably why you replied to three posts without actually reading them. Sasuga.I read the posts, and thought "Wow, people talking about this movie and not referring to cuck discourse? That's rare", but then the latest post comes along, even trying to trivialize the good aspects of the movie done from Mario on top of it.
>>573274435>I'd rather talk for days about any other Mario movie since the OVA discourse is so obnoxious.>So do it. What's stopping you? Personally, I'm a big fan of every Mario movie. I think the weakest is the 2023 origin film, but I've got a lot to say about all of them, as well as The Super Show.I feel like the sequel of that is the weakest. Mario movie 2 made me realize how important the more somber moments we got in Movie 1 were. I feel like they really should take the those good aspects from 1, and the visuals of 2, and hit it home with movie 3.
>>573274378yeah the ova felt the most disjointed of the mario movies, i enjoyed 93 a lot more even while it was doing a more original thing with mario at the time
>>573270748It's cuck shit because Mario thought he was getting a piece of the action but the prince swoops in at the end afterwards. It wouldn't only not count as cuckshit if it was already communicated about Peach's fiancee.
>OVA>OVA>OVAThis was the first theatrical film based on a video game. It is the first of the four Mario films. It was far from perfect, but you do it a great disservice by lumping it in with direct-to-video.You're supposed to be Mario fans. Do better.
>>573277967>It is the first of the four Mario films. It was far from perfect, but you do it a great disservice by lumping it in with direct-to-video.it's just a catch all term, it's not that deep
>>573275602>I feel like the sequel of that is the weakest. Mario movie 2 made me realize how important the more somber moments we got in Movie 1 were.This seems to be the most common sentiment, but my position is inverted. I think Mario 1 was held back by its somber moments. They felt very half-hearted, and the resolution to the movie's biggest emotional conflict (i.e. Mario's dad thinking he's a dumb failure who is dragging his brother down) feels incredibly rushed and irrelevant; his son disappeared for a week and came back as a superhero who beat up a Godzilla outside his house using a magic star. Even though we, the viewer, saw Mario's journey, neither his dad nor his family did, yet the whole finale really needed to be for the benefit of his family to make up for how they treated him. And the viewer, in fact, doesn't need to see it. We know Mario would never give up. That's the whole point of Mario. It just feels very performative, imo.Conversely, Mario Galaxy drops all pretenses and hits the ground running. It makes no mistake it's about letting its characters be heroes and sending them through crazy action setpieces with Mario eye-candy, and it almost never stops. People complain about the pacing, but I love that the movie doesn't give you a chance to breathe. And really, it DOES have sentimental moments. It's just that they're about Bowser and Jr. being evil together, which is hilarious. Honestly I think one of my favorite bits about Mario Galaxy is how much better it nails a father/son story than Mario 1. Like damn, Bowser was a MUCH better dad than Mario's (despite saying he wasn't, lol), and I think that makes their dynamic in Galaxy really fun, especially when Bowser antagonizes and even betrays Mario, but Mario still saves his son's dumb ass because a hero wouldn't want to see a father lose his son, and of course Mario is a hero.
>>573277841It's wrong for any man to assume he's earning a woman's love by helping her, no matter what he's actually doing. And that's kind of why the whole ending is one of the best parts of the movie, imo. Mario and the princess both understand the difficulty of the situation and handle it like adults, and it's really bittersweet. Especially since the OVA happened so early in the franchises life, we didn't even know if the princess was going to be a long-term thing with Mario, so this ending isn't even very egregious.While I think the fandub improves the OVA all around, it actually changes the ending, with tongue firmly in-cheek. It re-writes the dialogue so that the prince is actually just her brother, and entirely implies Mario will be coming back to bing-bing wahoo the princess. But that's exactly the kind of shit old 80s dubs used to change, and that was the whole point of the fandub, so it doesn't bother me. I like that we have a version to go each way.
>>573276649>the ova felt the most disjointed of the mario movies,For being an hour long and only having the material of the original game to work with, I think it's a pretty forgivable offense. It was exciting enough for a kid in the 80s to be able to see Mario animated on a screen, I can imagine.>>573274378>just a shitty attempt to sell some noodlesFor me, the blatant way it addresses its product placement ends up being so bold that it's charming. Like, the big twist in the final battle happens when Mario fucks up eating the power star because a package of the sponsor's rice seasoning magically appears in front of him for no reason, and he stops to eat that instead. That's fucking hilarious.I think the OVA's bigger faults are the majority of the OST being generic idol/rock/pop songs, while most of the Mario music that did make it in is literally just NES audio on loop for way too long. Like the whole Lakitu sequence goes on for so long without clear direction or stimulating score that it's arguably painful.
Thoughts?
>>573282236I think this is an image of games that are mostly unrelated to Mario.
>>573282334you say that but I spot two marios and one yoshi
>>573282550So that would be three (3) games out of a total of twenty-four (24) that have something to do with Mario. That list of games is, in fact, 87.5% not Mario. Thus "mostly" unrelated to Mario, as I previously stated.Those are my thoughts on that image, and I am sticking by them.
>>573282236Nintendo won again.
>>573282334>>573282976Oh shut the fuck up
>>573279469>It's wrong for any man to assume he's earning a woman's love by helping her,Yet that's been something in our media for centuries if not millennia. There's no real intentional message or grander plot from Haru coming in at the end, it's just a joke. Like Bowser working at Mario's store at the end.>It re-writes the dialogue so that the prince is actually just her brother, and entirely implies Mario will be coming back to bing-bing wahoo the princessThat kind of puts me off from watching it, I get that dubs used to change things but it feels a little too pointed in changing it because of it's reputation. He gets cucked at the end, but who really cares beyond the craziest people who latch onto it?
>>573283851No. Contribute to the thread meaningfully, instead of just posting some console war bait image and saying nothing of import. Take it to /v/, you boring idiot.
>>573279469>While I think the fandub improves the OVA all around, it actually changes the ending, with tongue firmly in-cheek. It re-writes the dialogue so that the prince is actually just her brother, and entirely implies Mario will be coming back to bing-bing wahoo the princess. But that's exactly the kind of shit old 80s dubs used to change, and that was the whole point of the fandub, so it doesn't bother me. I like that we have a version>Peach, Mario, and Haru ending changedWow I didn't know about this yet in dubs, based.
>>573284808>it feels a little too pointed in changing it because of it's reputation. He gets cucked at the end, but who really cares beyond the craziest people who latch onto it?This road goes too ways. Why care if he doesn't get cucked, then? The whole point of the dub was to completely recompose the OST to make a corny, 80s, Mario musical, anyway. They also change it so that Bowser wasn't trying to marry the princess, but instead just force her to attend his birthday. It's intentionally ridiculous, but if that ruffles you, it's not like I can force you to watch it. The two versions are really two entirely different experiences, and that was kind of the magic of anime dubs back in the day, and thus the whole point of the project.
>>573285626NTA but yeah.
>>573285780>Why care if he doesn't get cucked, then?It's one of those things where you can tell someone had a problem with the original ending. When you're watching something and you can feel the hand of the person making it, it ruins it.
>>573288823speak for yourself
>>573285117>No. Contrib-YOU GET WARIIOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DembOpAJFooGotta love how 4chain receives zero credit.Gigaleak dropped on /vp/. /v/ broke the news that Luigi was in the game.It was us. 4chan did it. And we are scrubbed from history.
>>573290097>us>weyou didn't do shiiit
>>573290352YOU didn't do shit. I was in there with the rest of the science team going through files, taking shit apart, and reporting in with findings. I fucking love that shit.
>>>/v/742788673
>>573290573you didn't do shiiiiiiit
>>>/vr/12681291
>>573290573posting "zomg put me in the screencap" does not count as being on the team
>>573288823>I like to imagine that I know what people I've never met are thinking so I can dismiss their hard work based on that aloneWeird, but you do you.> When you're watching something and you can feel the hand of the person making it, it ruins it.I agree with you only in that I once read this awful "What If" Transformers comic that was a retelling of the 1986 movie, and you can basically feel the author's 30+ years of bitterness toward Hot Rod getting Optimus Prime killed, and it makes the entire book feel performative and petty. But this is really something that needs to be analyzed on a work-by-work basis. Sometimes, being able to "Feel the hand" of the author only enhances the experience.
so like, first time i'm trying to play the online modes in Mario Wonder Bellabel Park but apparently you need to join a friend lobby to even playthere's no matchmaking with randoms, what the actual fuck? where can I even find people looking to play this game
>>573301192well duheven if there was random matchmaking there wouldn't even be people on it outside of launch
wario land 1 is now available to play on NSO
Is he really wrong?
>>573323489Most romhacks are mediocre, and the best ones are novel or good at best, which makes sense as they are mostly developed by solo devs who are usually not proficient with level design.They're good if you want to play more using the Mario 64 moveset, but anyone wanting to play a 3D Mario game would not find much value in this, when they could play other platformers instead.
>>573323489While there is a large amount of hacks hosted there, the ones that are actually worth playing are relatively few. Definitely not more than one person can play in a lifetime.
>>573323489romhacks are usually for people who want more mario 64 than a new 3D marionot every romhack is a kaze type mega overhaul
Andross for Mario Kart
>>573320042oh shit reallygood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrsgViowsE&t=281>Chat... what if we got a NEW Luigis Mansion??!
>>573320042Based.
>>573333409take dumb eceleb shit to /v/
>>573333409continue posting relevant mario videos in /smbg/
>>573335126>continue posting relevant mario videos in /smbg/least obvious samefag shill
>>573335215ok
>>573335126I've been seeing the same shitter posting the same 2 grifter channels for the past few weeks because he can't stop giving them attention when he already knows they're wrong. Where's the variety, why don't you post videos you enjoy instead.
>>573335613I only post arlo because it pisses you off. I don't know who this guy is but I like the cut of his jib.
>>573323489romhacks are fine but people who shill them as a replacement probably have Nintendo derangement syndrome
>>573335828Wasn't even talking about arlo, but you now revealed you don't even like him. I thought you were genuine with that shit.
>>573336156arlo kinda fell off
>>572291653Arlo fell off because he's too busy acting like a bitch and just..... not making any content. Not even trying to be mean
>>573336327You missed the actual post to reply to by like 630 posts...
>>573282236>Nintendo and Valve WINNINGHoly FUCK GAMING IS HEALING
>>573323489Because at least 95% of romhacks are festering piles of garbage.
>>573263271the game has plenty of white people
>>573282236there are 3 games i wanna play on the nintendo switch 2 image>duskbloods>fortune's weave>OoT remake (likely because i didn't play the 3DS remake)there are 3 games i wanna play in the PS5 image>wolverine>phantom blade zero (wanna play this the most)>Nioh 3there are 0 games i wanna play from Xbox
>Hey! That was pretty good, but I know you can do even better!
>>573337354>because i didn't play the 3DS remakeJust as well. You don't need to play the 3DS "remake" because it's not a remake.
which mario character would be the weakest against nipple torture?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg0L7UUD5uIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTrztihvKchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24Lbz7Nckg
RIP, fuck
Mario Kart Tour will EOS on September 30 after the Anniversary Tour ends
Another one bites the dust
>>573342852>>573343282Good. All Mario mobile games deserve to die, except from Super Mario Run because people had to pay for it.
>>573345432Still hard to believe that MKT is ending before Mario Run when MKT had so much more content and was just a better game
>>573345925you're talking to a shitposter that wants mobile paywall slop for Mario
>shitcordgoing to guess that has to be a datamine server, seems like people are getting the news from the same guy first
>>573342852>>573343282Saw the gmail saying my gold pass was cancelled and got scared something was up with my bank
>>573278775>the sequel of that is the weakest. >This seems to be the most common sentiment, but my position is inverted. I think Mario 1 was held back by its somber moments. They felt very half-hearted, and the resolution to the movie's biggest emotional conflict (i.e. Mario's dad thinking he's a dumb failure who is dragging his brother down) feels incredibly rushed and irrelevant; his son disappeared for a week and came back as a superhero who beat up a Godzilla outside his house using a magic star. Even though we, the viewer, saw Mario's journey, neither his dad nor his family did, yet the whole finale really needed to be for the benefit of his family to make up for how they treated him. And the viewer, in fact, doesn't need to see it. We know Mario would never give up. That's the whole point of Mario. It just feels very performative, imo>Conversely, Mario Galaxy drops all pretenses and hits the ground running. It makes no mistake it's about letting its characters be heroes and sending them through crazy action setpieces with Mario eye-candy, and it almost never stops. People complain about the pacing, but I love that the movie doesn't give you a chance to breathe. And really, it DOES have sentimental moments. It's just that they're about Bowser and Jr. being evil together, which is hilarious. Honestly I think one of my favorite bits about Mario Galaxy is how much better it nails a father/son story than Mario 1 Like damn, Bowser was a MUCH better dad than Mario's (despite saying he wasn't, lol), and I think that makes their dynamic in Galaxy really fun, especially when Bowser antagonizes and even betrays Mario, but Mario still saves his son's dumb ass because a hero wouldn't want to see a father lose his son, and of course Mario is a heroIt feels like you're viewing the 2 movies through a lense of "Mario should always be static" and shouldn't change/grow, even if it's a new Mario we have no history with. There's different types of viewers who enjoy that.
>>573345925Nintendo have more of an obligation to keep Mario Run alive because people had to pay for it from the start. Wouldn't be surprised if they release an offline version at some point because of this since it's not free to play like the others if they ever want to stop using servers for it.>>573347297Not your bogeyman.
>>573348848not how "bogeyman" works, i'm saying what you're literally doing, paywall defending "Super Mario Run" faggot, not thinking that you're some other faggot or whatever
>>573348848and yes, i noticed you switch to "logical" from shitposter there, but saying something "deserves to die" because it's free was literally you sucking paywall dick earlier, if you changed your tune, then that's fine then, since it's standard logic that something free has less longevity then something paid for
No offline version of Mario Kart Tour is planned btwWhich sucks given how many drivers and karts and gliders and track variants will just be lost media after this There’s still so many DKGs that were never added to either 8DX or World
I feel really sad; I’ve been playing Mario Kart Tour almost every day since September 2022; I always knew the game had an expiration date due to being live service and all but I really thought the tour loop and low-effort maintenance mode would’ve meant that the game could’ve lived longer than this; especially when there were plans for badges up until the 10th anniversary (this is only the 7th anniversary)
Daisy broke into my house and stole all my Luigi merch...
>Daisy b-gay luigi
Well, that's the official Mario Kart tour news out...https://x.com/mariokarttourEN/status/2074767600245252177
>>573353254>Service for the Mario Kart Tour game ends on Sept. 29 at 11:00 p.m. PT / Sept. 30 at 8:00 a.m. CEST. Thank you for your support throughout the years. For info on how rubies and the Mario Kart Tour Gold Pass will be handled moving forward, see in-game notifications or FAQ below.
>>573353254>>573353305Someone needs to preserve MKT...somehow, maybe downloading the code or something.
>>573353381at least a portion of MKT will always be on MK8 deluxe if no one does that in time
I guess things truly don't last forever.
>>573357459Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis is also getting shut down.And Sony seriously thinks making everything digital is a good thing?
>>573348928>>573349105You dreamed up me sucking off Nintendo for putting a paywall on Super Mario Run when I just stated that it shouldn't die because of that upfront cost. Though why do you hate Mario Run so much? I'd rather something like Mario Run or that bootleg Wario Ware over a f2p game designed to scam people out of money if I had to choose.
>>573342852>>573343282at least it gave MK8D its BCP, i'm still mad that they put in a fucked up version of Sunset Wilds instead of another deserving GBA retro like Bowser Castle 4>>573353381there's always mods if nothing else
>>573359275>You dreamed up me sucking off Nintendo for putting a paywall on Super Mario Run>Though why do you hate Mario Run so much? I'd rather something like Mario Run or that bootleg Wario Ware over a f2p game designed to scam people out of money if I had to choose.you stated verbatim>Good. All Mario mobile games deserve to die, except from Super Mario Run because people had to pay for it.that's you literally sucking off paywalls and shitting on free games and saying they deserve to die, while adding "good" for more shitposting measureyour next post switched to something more logical, but I was referencing your first shittier post
>>573279469>fandub>all thatHA, just like with the Sailor Moon "cousins" . I guess the oppressed really abrorb the ways of the oppressors
>>573353254Sad news for that one anon who still plays this.>>572291653Guess the thread OP was a bad omen.
All they gotta do is add the outfits to MKW. It's all anyone cares about, the game was never very fun.
>>573361636>that's you literally sucking off paywallsThat's me saying that because people directly paid for the game that Nintendo should and probably will keep it alive for a long time and longer than their f2p offerings. But f2p games generally are terrible because by their very nature it's preying on the vulnerable to gamble or splerge their money on microtransactions. Even the most generous f2p games rely on the whales spending money that they likely don't have. I'd say the same about games behind a paywall that do similar things like Battlefront 2 back in the day and GTA V, and probably many more now but as I don't play those games, I don't know them.
mario run chads, how we feeling?
>No physical? mama mia
nintendo will never lose physical because the japanese still love buying physical games
>>573379080Physical cases and collector's editions will still exist, they'll just have download codes.
I paid for the full Mario Run (during the recent discount) and played it for one day before going back to Mario Kart Tour; man why does the better game have to be the one that dies…
But what will the Nintendeen and Arlo reactions be to this shutdown?
>>573385220lol no
>>573386096GTA sets the standards and cartridges are already too limiting for Nintendo in the Switch 2 era, we already had a Pokemon game with a key card. For a Switch 3, it's going to have to be a digital future. It's not like there are other industries or uses for MicroSD Express tech to bring the price of the cards down.
>>573387110cope.
>>573387164You will be in six years. I won't remember this conversation but I expect it to live rent free in your mind when the inevitable happens.
>>573387278>just six more years bro
>>573387369Well yeah, did you think the next Nintendo console was coming out next year?
>>573385942kys shill
>>573338440Luigi
There is now a demo for Yoshi's new game.
>>573399894WE DON'T CARE
How do you feel about MKT getting the EoS? Are you going to miss?
>>573399894WE CARE A LOT
>>573399894based, it's yoshi's best game.
>>573402554stop reposting your shitcord server, the official MKT account already has posts you can use
>>573402554i never played it, but i do wonder why they arent making an offline version. did nobody buy pocket camp complete? or is the point of the game completely lost when not with other players
>>573402554Never played it.
>>573402858>stop doing this>stop doing thatWell gee Anon, what CAN we do around here? /s
>>573402858see >>573283851
>>573206172Why they changed? I liked the first one better than the final one below.
>>573403086>>573403346>t. discord troon spamming the same exact screenshots
>>573403595because the first one didn't look like rhythm heaven.
>>573342852>>573343282>>573349704>>573353254>>573402554Does anyone know how to decrypt the game by getting the game assets?
Merry Cave Christmas, everyone!
>>573403726Oh shut the fuck up
>>573405008You shut up, tranny.
>>573405008We don't want your kind here.
is there anyone more annoying than the fag that's trying to shut down any kind of discussion here?
>>573405508posting 3 discord screenshots of the same exact shit would receive hate from any part of this site
>>573407185Three different people posted those screenshots. We're all in the discord here. If you aren't then you aren't one of us.
>>573409203>Three different people posted those screenshots. We're all in the discord here. If you aren't then you aren't one of us.Doubt, shitcord tourist, kys
>>573409203don't speak for us discord troon
can you guys stop falseflagging and talk about actual mario stuff.
>>573409671>>573409831You're the outsiders here. Leave the general.
>>573407185it's allowed when it's something important, it happens all the time
>>573409958>You're the outsiders here. Leave the general.You literally proved you're an outsider, next time don't expose yourself.
>>573407185no dumbasssaid discord guy was the first person to break the news, and is also well known in the tour community, this isn't even the first time we've shared his stuff here, this is however the only time you got pissy about it.
>>573410214>this is the first time people shitted on discord herebiggest lie newfag
>>573410214You didn't actually refute his post, that shit is shamed on 4chan, especially after a 3rd repeat post.
>>573410485>muh 4chan ruleslmao, this isn't your sekrit club and never was, there's no holy or sacred rules here outside of the ones the jannies enforcethe anon was on topic, and you're shitting your diapers over something completely irrelevant>>573410364>twisting what i saidilliterate-kun..
>>573410742>discord tranny meltygo back to your groomer cord>sekrit clubso you have been told this before and are just mad you constantly get called a tourist on 4chan
General near the bump limit? Check.Pointless back and forth bickering to artificially inflate post count? Check.
>>573410935He's right, 4chan culture is changing
>>573411180>4chan culture is changingkys samefag corder
>>573410935you're flailing around so much you don't even know who you're posting to and are using any and all buzzwords at your disposal.>>573411129it's funny, is it not? i'm only amusing his temper tantrum because i'm waiting for something. i do wonder why this general has this problem but /ink/ for example doesn't. no idea about /kdg/ though
>>573411286>you're flailing around so much you don't even know who you're posting to and are using any and all buzzwords at your disposal.you literally used buzzwords in your own post, tourist, and no using our /smbg/ collab to shield yourself won't help, anybody can post that, even a tourist like you
Why sully our smbg collab in this shitty discussion. Fuck both of you.
>>573411535>he doesn't know
>>573411653>ai cropping tools
>>573411784damn technology...>>573411610i haven't really kept up with drawing at all, i kinda want to get back into it even if i have to learn fundamentals so i might do one for this year's christmas. i'm surprised no one else did something similar we probably lost most of our drawfags
>>573411286/kdg/ has a lot of schizos in it, i think half of them are gone, but they still get big derails
nintendo needs to hurry the fuck up with whatever that NSO playtest was
what if mario was a zoomer
>>573420787Floating timeline means that Mario is a zoomer.
>>573421036>Floating timeline means that Mario is a zoomer.nonsense
>>573421036Wait, Mario is 25 years old...So that means that Mario was born during 9/11
>>573425671>So that means that Mario was born during 9/11Mario was 25 years old during 1981, so no
You can tell some anons in this general really wish they were mods.
What Free Roam playlist do you want added to the music app next?
>>573430376Everything.
I passed on this used Super Mario RPG Sound Box at a good price when I was in Tokyo last month; when I go back do you think I should check if it’s still there at that price?
>>573445179definitely
>>573294795is that May from Pokémon?
>>573411286Jesus was this drawn by retarded kids?
>>573449387>dramafag is back
>>573448730kys DBspic
>>573445179Seems like a steal
>>573450186Retard https://youtu.be/36c6DbiSYl0?is=_efTLciN1fWg4ZGx
>>573453824I know the reference but why use it there specifically shitposter.
>>573447263>>573452330I wonder if Yoko Shimomura can still collaborate with Nintendo considering M&L Brothership
gaming
>>573454445clocked
>>573463203>>573463203>>573463203>>573463203
>>573341623based
>>573445179Go for it if no one's taken it yet.
