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Vyper’s New Look Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>572585959
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mods please delete OPs image
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>>572662492
He's clearly icefrog's self-insert hero. All the women have voice lines remarking on how handsome Shiv is, hes not allowed to be bad, and hes the last remaining member of the baxter society (super duper special)
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green with envy
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>>572662921
well fellas abdul made himself a monkey
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>>572662636
that's not vyper, that's femyoshi
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>>572662921
?????? half the female characters make fun of his appearance, he has a 40%~ winrate, and he's the most hated baxter society member with grey talon the only one treating him decently. I don't know where you got the "last remaining member" either
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>>572662921
You're wrong about three of these.
>>572663510
You're wrong about one of these.
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Why do I have to see this crossdressing faggot every time I open the stream
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3rd place in R1 makes more money than winning Night Shift. Where are they getting the money from?
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woman moment, amirite?
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>>572664241
You're supposed to jerk off to him
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>>572664268
SPREADING ivy's cheeks and SNIFFING
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Whew
S+++er banned
Can't let that beast through draft
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>>572664495
Describe the aroma.
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sorry missed the ending screen, was in a doter match.
MLC has Ivy so they will win. she was already strong and she just got buffed.
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>>572664268
Ivy is flat you disgusting pig
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>>572664781
Like wet moss
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>>572664847
I always wonder how the high elo fags are able to make gun ivy work so well where she's borderline useless everywhere else
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>>572664871
She got clay implants
They'll fall off after it rains a few times
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>>572662921
>Abrams: How long did it take you to do your hair?
>Shiv: Please, I wake up looking this pretty.
lmao kinda based tho
but really if any hero is self-insert, it's that fat fvck Dynareddit
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>>572664954
good aim. she has extremely high fire rate and accuracy, with a small clip and weak bullet damage.
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>>572664268
Gargoyle woman moment...
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Gargoyles should be sent back to where ever they came from
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>>572665458
ivy is going to sit on your face for saying that
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>>572665571
Once again proving the stereotype true!
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why did my pro shiv player buy egg 1st item
and why does he have decay queued up as his next buy
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>>572665458
But they came from in our cities. They'd just be going back to where they already are.
Gargoyles are honorary friends of humanity.
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>>572665843
egg is FREE stats and FREE souls
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>>572665843
decay is easy max rage
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>>572665843
its the equivalent of m1ggers rushing tesla, just a greedy start if you can afford to be weak in lane
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>>572666053
isn't torment pulse better for that?
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>>572665843
It was popular a while back, Shiv has a bad lane so if you're up against good laners (or retarded) you just buy egg and feed until you can buy decay.
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>>572666109
no? not even remotely close in terms of rage buildup, but torment pulse would be the better greed-buy
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>>572665458
>>572665926
Gargoyles are a French invention but were adopted by all cities inhabited by Europeans and only ever in those cities, strangely. So Ivy is an example of an ethnically French individual being raised from essentially birth by mexicans
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>>572666269
hm okay, i've never tried it
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>>572664954
>Vyper on her team
She's better paige when it comes to pocketing gun carries. In that she can actually fight back.
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>>572666119
something you don't want to see in a tourney. that shiv is essentially conceding the opponent is disproportionally better.
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>miss both bashdowns
>parried
LOL
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>>572666697
same thing happened to lystic like 3 times in his match
i think playing billy turns you into a retard
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shut up niggers I'm better than y'all for real!
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>>572666834
Billy wouldn't say that word.
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Is rage something you play around or just treat it as extra damage when you have it? Like should I not dash until I have max rage, or if I see a good dash opportunity I should just take it regardless?
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>LordNM on Melee Creeps
What the fuck are they doing
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>>572666429
what does that have to do with the fact that ivy herself did the most damage in the whole lobby
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>>572667314
Rage takes so long to build you shouldn't hold your dash until you have it unless you're already at like half.
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>>572667648
I see, thank you
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>>572667325
trialing new players for their 6th spot
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Honestly, Vindicta was funnier to play as when sniping gave you souls, she's just a worse m1gger now
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>>572668094
her flight being so much worse than talon is stupid
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holy shit how broken is echo shard tornado
why would you ever build anything else
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>Mirage using eshift to wait for djinn's mark to pop on shiv
holy kino
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dewsweep
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>>572669082
how do we fix seven?
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>>572667617
Well yeah that's where the whole fighting back thing comes up. Her gun is really good.
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>>572669173
Zerggy won a game on him so maybe he's fine. 33% winrate isn't bad...
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>>572668268
SAAR, THIS IS THE JULY 6TH OF 2026!
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>>572662636
my penis?
YUGE!
Hochi MAMA!
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So what exactly are you supposed to do to deal with a comp like this besides die or pray you get pocket?
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>>572669541
>S+++lver
it was over before it began.
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>>572669173
Let him stick his 2 to walls instead of only allowing him to stick it to enemies.
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>>572669082
thank you for dewing (heh) the needful, I keep missing the ending screen while playing doters.
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>>572668376
I don't understand why Talon gets to fly like every 12 seconds with built-in lifesteal and bullet evasion and also has four stamina while Vindicta has 2 and a 42 second cooldown. I'm not saying she should be as good in that regard but it seems like an insane disparity for two characters that fill similar roles.
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You wanna win [[Immense Krommer]]?? D0 YA???? D00 YA ????!!! ! ALL [[Yo-Yo]] GOTTA DO IS [[Conga~Line]] ON OVER TO [[S++++]]ILVER!!!!!! It's THAT [[pain w/ skin, my eyes]]!!!
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the djinn won
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MLC drafted Ivy again, so they win again.
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just gooned to supertf's mina cosplay ama
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So Silver wasn't picked, nor banned for this game for either team. Can we at least all agree that she's completely chopped now?
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>>572670829
Any regrets
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>>572670735
I respect people trying to play drifter after his buffs but he’s clearly still a throw pick
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>>572671004
54% win rate right now, 59% in E6
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>>572669329
Another AI made website?
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>>572671171
who cares? night shift is a different dimension
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>>572669173
don't let lefaa touch another carry
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>buy egg min 1
NOOO DONT DO IT, ITS SHIT
>holds get 10 min
YOURE GIMMPING YOURSELFFF WHO BUYS THI SHITTTT
>game continues on 26 mins
SELL IT, YOU DONT NEED IT ANYMORE, SELL!
>32 minutes in, we're pushing into their base
WHY ARE YOU STILL HOLDING IT YOU RETARD, POP THE EGG, POP THE EGG
>38 min, as we kill patron i use egg and am top souls
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WOULD OYU USE IT NOW!!
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how exactly are tournament organizers going to make this into a mass appeal esport? why would esl or blast put money into this
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>>572671856
>esports

its been all about gambling for awhile now, sweaty
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holy fuck mlc are throwing for money
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How is he feeding this hard on Viscous of all heroes
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>>572672053
>MLC
over time its become apparent that dew and saiah basically carry that team on their back and the rest are actually extremely inconsistent.
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Gun drifter doing well

Is it compy?
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>>572671856
>why would esl or blast put money into this
thanks to this being a valve game they can just reduce the prizes/money spent and have it all still be valid, the pros may have a future where they are playing in 50-100 dollar tournaments constantly with 1000-5000 dollar majors.
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Anyone wathcing POV stream? How are Melee Creep comms
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Sinclair dodges another nerf. Escape acts seem to be their specialty.
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>>572672985
Hard to balance guy. OP against some team comps, useless against others. He'll get omeganerfed when draft is finally added.
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>>572666918
billy would totally say y'all
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oh shit that was some nice broooling
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>>572670865
Now if only they turned her male...
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>>572670865
Sorry, still S tier. Strimmers said so.
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>Superior Duration gives bullet resistance and greater expansion gives spirit resistance
Why isnt it meta to just get only spirit and green items on giest to make her a spirit tank?
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>>572671216
saar we clearly state in our mission statement at the bottom of the page that we do not use ai.
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>people who put a character as their steam name and still go 1/10 on that character
>check their statlocker
>thousands of games on that character with a 47% wr
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>>572674020
name one, nostreams
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>Deadlock if it was good
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>4-14
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FPSL W. GAME 3.
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>>572674358
counting or not counting little helper violence?
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>>572674386
He should have just splat maxxed
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We have you now.
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Optimal viscous build
>rescue beam
>spirit items for every other slot
Any other build is throwing
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>>572674916
pro viscous is only requiring rescue beam + cdr + duration I suppose.
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>viscous again
Match fixing
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>maybe Silver, back in the fray?
>Yeah but that does mean you're not playing Ivy, or something impactful
Freudian slip from the casters
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MLC got S+++lver, they win.
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Sinclair bro loooool
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>check their statlocker
How embarrassing for someone to admit to doing this unironically.
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>>572674916
No you want mystic shot and express shot to blow people up as well
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>>572675786
>steals your affliction
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Managed to win after our Vindicta abandoned at 10k souls, Seven gave up eventually. Got a sweet fountain dive at the end.
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>nightlock twitch chat is full of fags spamming that tranny shaking his fake prosthetic tits emote
GREAT COMMUNITY YOSHI YOU LOVE LITTLE CHILDREN
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>this patch is so amazing! deadlock is saved!
I fail to see how literally anything changes, brool is just mandatory now as if it wasn't functionally the same before
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>>572676097
>watching on twitch
>having the chat open at all
lmaoing@ur life
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>>572676097
Yet another win for youtube GODS
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fucking hell shiv is a menace
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Uhhh downplay sisters I thought Silver was unplayable why did she win lane why does she have a kill streak
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PARRRRRRYYYYYYYY
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>>572676736
no? shiv is the weakest hero in the game lmao
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>constantly getting raped by enemy team
>their seven can literally kill our mirage in 1 second
>no surrender option
>enemy team plays it safe extending our torture for nearly 40 minutes
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>>572676736
wdym? he's an honest character
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lordnm with a parry
OH AND ANOTHER ONE
OH AND A THIRD! LORDNM!
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>>572676753
Looks to me mostly because they keep trying to heavy melee him and he presses F
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uhhhhhh silver downsisters? what are we going to say now???
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>>572676964
match id?
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>it's another 1 hour game
please kill me
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>>572677220
>>572676753
Same thing we've said since she released: doesn't count, doesn't matter, I lose all my matches so Silver needs buffs or I'll 41% myself!!!!
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>took two T2s and one T3 while team was fighting for Rift
>they lost
>all 5 of them start screaming in chat on me for not helping them
>rift was only 4k or something
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My werewolf wife has got SERIOUS hands
DO NOT HOLD Q AGAINST HER OR ELSE!
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>7k damage infernus
>13k damage pocket
>34 minute game
this game is so fucking shit when you get retards that never group up to fight just standing around farming until they get ganked 1 by 1
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>>572677558
if the rift was after 20 minutes you hard threw because enemy team gets midboss after and you just lose the game
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>>572677558
splitpushing and farming aren't allowed anymore sorry
we're in the brooliest of brool metas now
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>>572677640
we won the game
can't remember about boss tho, because they never took him after rift, so it could be that we fought for him before that
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What was that paradox malding about?
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>>572662636
>>572662636
Going to cosplay Billy in next couple of months on my local con. /cgl/ is dead, so posting here.

>head
extracted from game files, poorly chopped in blender, prepared for 3d printing.
>eyes
have only vague idea how to realize it ATM. CR2032-powered yellow LEDs in eyesockets,and uhh..don't know how to make proper goat pupils.
>facial hair
goat beard will be 3d-printed part of the head, everything else - chopped wig
>ears
Still not decided:3d-printed or made from wool/fur/other soft material. I prefer soft material more.
>jacket
Did you know that you can't find a proper male biker jacket like the one billy wears?only girls wear them IRL. I text them on my local marketplaces, they think that i'm some kind of pervert and refuse to talk with me.
I think i'll raid some local thriftshops.
>bat and SMG
3d-printed
>patches on the jacket
have no idea how to do them at the moment


everything else is easy to obtain:t-shirt with print, random chain+lock, some punk stuff like spikes and plastic pins.

thoughts, opinions, advices?
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>>572677939
well if the enemy was retarded enough not to take midboss assuming they had like 3 people up vs just you this must be pisslow
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>>572678057
furfag
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>>572678057
>bat and SMG
>3d-printed
Bring a few extra mags made of cake so you can eat them.
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>>572677558
I don't understand this mindset
>Urn/Rift > T2
fuck, people are even ready to lose the game for this rift/urn
>oooooga booooga must go for rift/urn
>lines are fucked? don't care must broooooooooole
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>1am
>an entire day since late afternoon to stream 8 tourney matches
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>>572678047
I'm guessing a terrain stuck or something based on what he and the silver said
>bro is that real?
>WE WOULD HAVE WON THE FIGHT LOL

>i saw poshy get that bug before and he couldnt even unstuck
>YOSHIIII
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>>572677558
You did good, anon. Don't blame yourself about the majority of the playerbase not having grown a brain yet.
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MLC NA champs.
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>say faggot in vc
>everyone is shocked
buncha pussies its not like i called them faggots either it was about the enemy team
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>>572678507
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>>572678493
ez game ez life
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>>572678493
>lets just gigabuff shiv for no reason
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>>572678679
guys i think the developers might have bias towards heroes...
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lordnm still crashing out.
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>>572678764
what race is that? like mutt version of a persian?
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>>572678182
valid comment
>>572678208
unfortunately, goathead is ~1.75x bigger than my head, it will have no functionable mimics, anything related to mouth either. So no, can't do that, yet it's very nice idea.
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>been playing Haze and got myself to the Phantom
>teammates calling me out for playing not meta hero
huh? what meta?
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>first game of the night
>shiv on our team has a 11/10 full spergout
>blames everyone for everything
>he ends 4/11 and lowest in all stats even for both teams
I just want to relax not tard wrangle
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>>572678507
>some weird chud kills the team vibe because he can't do 30 minutes without dropping a slur
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>>572678957
whats the difference between calling someone a faggot and a pedo jew epstein diddier
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>>572678057
i've yet to see a billy cosplay that doesn't look awful so genuinely wishing you luck
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>>572678954
bring back not ranked matchmaking
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>>572679018
one is approved by leddit because it's intellectual to work around word filters.
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>>572678507
>US servers matchmaking
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>>572679018
there isn't one and saying either around strangers makes you weird
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>>572679049
Rem...
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>koth spawns same side as urn
>nigger lash decides this is a good time to run urn
>lose the game
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>>572678818
he looks like light skinned middle eastern.
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>>572678507
Americans are so sensitive lmao
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>>572679047
Thanks! Tbh i think that the main thing which can make billy cosplays look awful - head. That's the hardest part of the cosplay so i can understand it.
I think that picrel is the best one i've seen yet and i use it as a reference point.
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>>572678818
kike
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Parry is a dishonest mechanic.
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>>572679596
That one looks pretty sick and yeah, the head usually ruins it. A lot of people try to add fur and it just looks bad in person. Even the eyebrows on that one are a bit awkward but it's probably the best you can get with that type of thing.
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>>572679842
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BLOCK MY 500 DAMAGE MELEE FOR FREE NOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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the "fixed pattern" shiv shoots in now spells an S, pretty funny and very different from the diamond shape it tended to take before

alt fire now is basically a tf2 shotgun fixed spread
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>>572679963
You already can shoot from far, if you get close you should get punished, just don't get close nigga
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>indom + unstop + yamato ult
enjoy being forced to play the parry minigame for 20 seconds
miss a single parry and you're dead btw
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>>572680143
Getting parried is your punishment for getting close. Now go back to twitter you dumb larping faggot "nigga."
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>>572680181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzS96auqau0
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>team permabrools and goes into a soul deficit early on
>I get double their souls as a support because I'm the designated lane jannie
>obvious loss because our carries never fucking get money while the enemy doubles or triples their souls by the end of the game
I wish the game had a way to be harsher on broolers and nuke them back to initiate
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>see this near your bed during night
what to do?
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>>572680353
>>see this near your bed during night
>what to do?
Without a second's hesitation
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>>572680353
admire her beauty, of course
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>>572680353
Mantle slide out of my blankets, corner boost off my bed to the door, heavy melee out and around it, IAD through the hallway to the front door and leave.
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>>572680353
Offer it a Great Value Spicy Fried Chicken Fillet
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>>572680353
wait, does her hat turns into stone as well?
I thought clothes weren't originally part of her
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>>572680353
wait for her to leave at sunrise so I can SNIFF the spot she was squatting on
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>>572679849
>A lot of people try to add fur
this, so much this, i think that people FOR SOME REASON think that they need to handle it like a fursuit. At the same time original ingame model doesn't have fur at all, only facial hair.
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>>572680353
and Valve wants us to believe that she can't find any job with appearance and skillset like hers
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>>572680353
>Grab shotgun beside bed
>Slice and dice thru her
>Slide+alt movement down the hall
>Killing blow out the window
>Zipline out
>Esc
>Ivy
>Commend
>[All]: Almost stoney :^)
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>>572680928
i just type "wp" in chat
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I DIED TODAY BECAUSE MY CHEA........I mean qol......MOD WASN'T UPDATED FOR 3 MIN REJUV TIMER AND I THOUGHT IT STILL HAD THEM
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>>572678507
based, btw god hates them
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>>572681065
you're coping bro
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>>572681065
Under-rated part of the patch making it 3 m instead 4 m, it used to last FOREVER but now you can actually punish them. Even the slowest most stupid faggots could use rejuvenator before but now it can be stalled out especially if you shove waves as they do boss
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>>572681065
the game literally gives you an audio indicator when your rejuv expires
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>>572681213
extremely soft one esp when in your fighting
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the black troopers are complete dogshit and do not help if you're behind at all
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If you complain to me about my objective damage I'm going to throw the game. Stop downloading cheats. qol lock is a cheat.
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I don't care if some shitter's game makes a fucking loud sound when I parry, that won't be enough for them to actually get a parry off on me
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>>572681417
Yeah if it's advantage the other team will usually just let you have it and rip mid, then just walk over and janny the troopers before they get a chance to do anything. All they really do is snowball the midgame after a team wipe, whoever wipes is guaranteed to lose their walker basically for free.
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>>572681475
when I melee*
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>>572681475
perhaps. but i'd like to see you beat my auto parry qol mod
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>>572666742
>playing billy turns you into a retard
it turns you into a degenerate gambler, which is the same thing i guess.
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playing mina turns you into a trans woman :3
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>>572681672
>Billy is more of a gambler character than Wraith
lol
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The ultimate Billy tech is never hitting Q. Whoever you're fighting will eventually lose their nerve and parry a melee you were never going to throw and then you get to rape them with heavies.
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Pocket is so lucky
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>When go on a massive loss streak and drop from Ritualist to Alchemist.
And then I'm gonna lose my next 3 matches..
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>>572681816
>Super transfemme
Holy fuck..
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>>572681914
I never understood people with biting fetish
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>1.6k hours already in this game
>only Phantom 2
is it ok?
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>>572682121
bro people get to eternus in 500 games
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>>572682121
No lol you should be eternus 5 at this point im not joking
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>>572682121
I have the same and just dropped down into Archon, I have a noose tied and ready to go and I'd suggest you do the same.
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>>572682218
it seems that playing more has made you worse than a new player somehow
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>>572682121
I went from Eternus 3 to Ascendant 1. Now I just play to fuck around on meme builds.
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>>572682306
I'm stupid and bad at literally everything including video games where I'm the reason you get to win and climb into higher ranks. You should be thanking me.
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>>572682121
what hero?
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>>572682478
Haze
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>>572682531
my condolences
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the real dishonest mechanics are melee cancels and 180ing heavy melees

genuinely should not exist
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>>572681914
pocket doesn't like it
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Did they make shiv broken again?
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So why did they nerf Shiv so had? Melee items are shit and don't synergize with the knives. You can only choose to make one of his abilities useful now.
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>>572683314
No they emergency nerfed him, melee/gun shiv was 10 times stronger than spirit shiv
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>>572683428
>applying crushing fists and spirit snatch on the entire enemy team for free every 2 seconds ........le bad actually!
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>>572683428
Nevermind I didn't see the latest fix.
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>>572683730
You only apply spirit snatch on one guy retard, the item has a cooldown.
>crushing fists
Oh okay it's bait.
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>>572683452
He's still stronger than 3 days ago.
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>indomitable
>next stun, chain, immobilize, sleep and silence is automatically cleansed
>ok, I will just paradox swap them
>DENIED
???
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>>572683304
he will, at least for a public appearance
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>>572681848
playing the melee game is inherently gambling. once you get past a couple layers its all a fucking gamble for both the parry and the melee
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>>572683934
it counts as stun
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>>572684079
It's not though it doesn't even stun
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>>572684139
it stuns for a whole swap duration
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>>572664241
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>>572684274
if it stunned you would be able to cancel ults like seven
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>>572664241
faggot tranny coded community
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>>572681914
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my GOAT
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Ok now ive gone out drinking and the patch has settled a bit whats the consensus on shivs state?
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half the cast suffers from the problem of being extremely annoying and unfun to play against even when they're dogshit. graves is a great recent example of this
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>>572684746
unless shiv's winrate hits 60% /dlg/ will insist he's the weakest hero in the entire game (second only to silver, of course). note however that /dlg/ has not extended the same grace to venator who had an even lower winrate than shiv has last patch ("he's actually op!!!")
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This game was so disgustingly close purely because every single person on my team was running it mid (Billy is fine there, but Seven and Mirage were just ignoring free farm to shoot at heroes)
I had to keep both sidelanes pushed and god forbid rift or urn spawned because if I wasn't there it was going right to the enemy team
Billy and I duoed mid boss while the rest of our team (despite multiple pings and chat messages) were fighting the enemies under their walker (Mirage died)
I got omega hatecrimed by every ult, item, and stun, on their team which I guess is the curse of playing Silver
I have no team and I must job
I also learned you can't insta unstoppable right after rejuv, yoshi pls fix
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>true spirit Haze has never been tried
any suggestions?
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>>572685225
I tried it and its pretty fun but also very team dependant because all your worth is on your sleep dagger
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Why are people starting to build mystic shot and headhunter on Infernus?
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>>572685348
maybe people experimenting with more flat damage procs since we got global health nerfs this patch idk
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>>572685225
used to be meta in 2024 when her ult did spirit damage for a hot minute
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>>572685343
What do you mean? Merc Mag turns Spirit Haze into a fucking nightmare
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>>572685505
oh so you mean just normal m1gger haze but hybrid damage instead of actual spirit, carry on
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>>572685225
Sleep dagger + Mercurial Magnum with Escalating Exposure + Spiritual Overflow
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>>572685559
Haze gets half of her spirit as max ammo, she's hybrid from boon 1
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>>572685348
haven't tried it but infernus's damage has been dogshit outside of flame dash+ee for a very long time. headhunter is kinda expensive but it's easy to hit consistently with his gun (basically will be 50%+ of all gun damage you deal with his peashooter), and mystic shot just makes sense since he's a spirit m1gger so big scaling, and he desperately needs the burst damage
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>>572685225
The spirit damage from 3 stops when you get max stacks, but you get lots of spirit which turns dagger into a stun
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>>572685348
Napalm makes them do more damage
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>one sleep dagger has a better spirit ratio than landing all 7 calico bombs
>shorter cooldown too
Man they really don't know what to do about Calico huh
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>>572685505
no it doesn't and doesn't even interact with fixation afaik
>>572685610
only in the most technical sense and you would be a brain dead nigger to buy something like boundless spirit on haze for the sake of ammo
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>>572685891
abrams but mobile
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they should remove gunshit from the game
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>>572674358
sovl
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Why does Volvo keep trying wild shit on Sheev's kit but refuse to rework the main culprit on why people have a problem with the character, Bloodletting? Give him something else man I don't know.
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>>572686163
t. mad parried billy
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Groomer of Deadlock
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>>572684395
bro wasn't even trying
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>>572686163
Why not just go play dota?
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>it's another game where core dps goes 2 - 21 - 9
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>>572686571
hes not a real troon (yet) his female "friends" convinced him to do it
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>>572686682
Supermtf within 2 years
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>>572684395
Why not cosplay someone cool like Abrams, Infernus, Seven, Shiv etc. instead of crossdressing? Although he probably doesn't have the build for half of those.
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>>572687318
white men are born to cosplay as mina
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>>572687318
he only does crossplay to queerbait his gay twitter community
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>>572687596
Damn, even ecelebs have to work street corners in this economy...
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>somehow drifter is now the most broken hero in the game after some minor buffs
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>>572687318
Because it's a joke. It's supposed to be funny. But this website is obsessed with trannies so a common bit for ages now has anons going on about how he's an egg waiting to crack.
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>throw two bombs at kelvin's feet
>he domes himself with some other fag
>fucking dies
why are Kelvin players like this
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>enemy drifter is mad that I bought divine barrier
>continue to flame in chat whole game
bruh, I've bought it for Poket, not you
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>>572688812
It's either
>never use dome ever
or
>use dome to trap you and your team and never fucking open it in any situation
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>>572688417
>But trannies are obsessed with themselves, so a common bit for ages now has trannies going on about how he's an egg waiting to crack.
Ftfy.
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>>572689231
You have to specify this website or the faggots on here going about how he's going to transition any day now will think you're just referring to trannies outside of here and not the tranny behavior of actual anons.
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Am I crazy for thinking the game is still just whoever has the most AoE slop wins?
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>wasted 4800 souls award
when are they reworking or buffing this piece of shit? tried of retards pissing money away to buy this placebo
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>>572689592
nah its whoever has the current meta m1ggers wins
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>>572688941
turning white characters into black is okay but otherway around is racist? I still remember about white calico mod that got removed in the end
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>>572685919
its not percent max ammo its flat, spirit haze builds with a titanic have like 200 bullets in the mag
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>>572689686
>-24% bullet resist shred is... le bad actually
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>old urn
>you could clutch it and steal it if your team was dead or couldn't contest it
>midboss
>you can contest if your hero allows it and your team can't contest or is dead
>rift
>can't contest on your own
>mandatory fight you'll lose if you don't have the right team, are behind on souls or are down numbers
at least with the king of the hill urn I managed to steal it and run away to give my team a chance to respawn a few times which gave us some breathing room, there's no control over the rift
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>>572685940
calico wishes she could be as durable as abrams, its not even close
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>>572689592
No. That's how the game is. Even the meta m1 characters are the ones that require the least aim and they've turned other ones like Haze into a pure ultbot. I wish this game leaned more into the shooter aspect and required more precision.
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>>572689816
yes, all must become black
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>>572689912
There is no character in the game other than billy who will stack up that 24% in a fight that late
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>>572690457
bebop, apollo
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>>572689592
>>572690332
Fuck off to CS2.
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>>572690514
What?
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>>572689912
>-24% bullet resist shred is... le bad actually
If you don't buy crippling every game I don't want to hear it from you
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>>572690514
Sorry, sleep deprived >>572690914 here, misread that post as
>Beep boop, apollo
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>>572690457
bebop, apollo, drifter, calico , abrams (echo shard), viscous
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>>572690914
what what? do you need me to explain how they apply it?
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>>572691052
nah its shit on drifter
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Which way, /dlg/ man?
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>>572691301
Celeste is a no go since high probablity they have a horse dong, Silver would be ideal but too risky since they could have a wolf dong. Ivy is the safe bet.
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>mo spends rest of game flaming me because I didn't solo defend walker as kelvin against 4 people
mokrill players really are a special breed huh
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>>572691412
Kill yourself.
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>>572691287
absolutely not. It's an 8 second cooldown to get FOUR STACKS for free. Two light melees and they are stunned/at full shred.
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>>572691301
Celeste tranny colored which means she has a horse cock. Silver is alcoholic and I can't fix her. Ivy? Ivy's got me rock hard. I will be going with Ivy, she's a good person and will be a good mother
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>>572691554
this is not a discussion, im telling you its objectively garbage
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>>572691301
Real OGs can only say Ivy, she SAVED Deadlock's leak
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>>572691663
No u
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>>572682306
>>572682428
Honestly it might not be your fault, playing in an intelligent way loses you games. If youre constantly pushing the waves and making shit happen you die a lot cause your dumbfuck subhumans will just sit in the jungle and never respond or do anything productive. The only way to reliably rank up is play some carry that can jungle like seven and just do nothing but farm passively until fights happen because the player base is just THAT BAD
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>>572687318
i wanna get mega jacked so i can cosplay Abrams
just a giant 300lb fridge of muscle

>>572688360
>Because it's a joke. It's supposed to be funny.
that's how it starts
next thing you know you're in full Mina cosplay riding a dildo in front of a mirror thinking
"I-it's just a joke... h-haha... nh~"
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i cant dude
permadead dogshit player
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>>572693109
you could have just posted the name
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another dogshit nigger 0 gun invest i cant tell whats fucking worse
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>>572684746
he's in that danger zone again where he's strong but not broken but will become broken the second they buff a bunch of items he likes

he got a ton of very strong buffs to balance out reworking his dash, so just completely walking back the rework but not actually removing any of the buffs (his execute % is slightly lower then it was a few days ago but still higher then last week) is pretty nutty and then on top of it they gave him a fixed shotgun spread so even though you don't HAVE to buy gun you can still get away with buying some gun because it was already pretty good to hybrid and he has higher rage damage now to synergize with it
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>instead of just making shiv knives deal weapon damage, they revert the rework entirely
brain damage
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>>572690884
Fuck off to dota.
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>>572693536
Shiv players were turbo malding about radiant regen, knives dealing weapon damage wouldn't have changed anything
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>>572693536
it was fine that he had 1 thing that does spirit and 1 thing that did melee because the melee gave a stacking damage amp on a move with an extremely short cooldown which is shorter then the buff, it was like paradox where you can play a hybrid style because even if you don't all in on gun items your gun can still erase people once they get microwaved by bombs

the problem is that this stacking amp is way easier to hit people with and again has a tiny cooldown so you would stack amp + shred and suddenly you're doing literally double damage on everything
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>Load into game
>Literal second 0
>The frame we get into game
>Haze starts having schizo melty
>Keeps typing while sitting in jungle for 4 entire minutes
>He keeps saying things along the lines of "this is how the game is played this is what the devs want this is it this is how you play i just went against 2 girls on the dev team that were win trading this is what you do they can't ban me they won't"
>we keep asking him if he's ok and he keeps getting more and more frantic before just hard abandoning
>We all just leave because game isn't scored due to him leaving at minute 4
>Before we leave, his lane partner just says "why me"
I have said it before and I will say it again this game is an asylum for the retarded deranged and insane truly.
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replace bebop t5 bomb upgrade with +1% ability range per stack
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>>572693948
I am quite mentally stable if you ignore jerking it to Rouge the Bat r34 once in a while.
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i wanna make a bad pmatchmaking post but my forum acci s gone and i cant create a new one
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Haven't played that day, why this patch?
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>>572694201
Did you know that Lex Luthor canonically fucked Rouge the Bat?
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>>572694627
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insane 2 games in a row with just absolute brain dead people who dont show up to objectives or die solo in africa
my fault for winning 10 games in a row ig
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>>572694760
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>eat shit in lane
>never recover
>dominate lane, farm camps, get 15k advantage
>get stomped in late game anyway
Yeah
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>>572694872
>I can't fucking aim: the post: the movie: the miniseries
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Holy shit every shiv I encounter now is an unstoppable maniac what did they do to him
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>>572694627
Yes. Did you know that the legendary Nerevarine from TES III: Morrowind fucked Ahnassi in the hot summer of 3E 427 ?
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>>572695252
They giga buffed his ult in exchange for fucking up his dash making it do melee damage and killing a lot of synergy in his builds then immediately reverted the change to his dash
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>>572691412
>Silver would be ideal but too risky since they could have a wolf dong
where's the catch
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echo shard is core on mo for his burrow and yet i see no one buy it ever
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I'm done with this fucking game and the stumbling in the dark balancing
No points for guessing when I snapped, finally ditched my mains yes that includes Silver and switched to just queueing 3 m1ggers at all times.
Call me when they're finally done throwing shit at the wall
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>>572696219
ok
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>>572696282
Thanks. Leave voicemail if I don't pick up.
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>>572696451
ok
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ok now this is the 3rd fuickign game in a row icant deal man
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>infernus gets superior cool down and duration extender
>he is now unkillable
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>>572697534
>>572693236
>>572693109
post your stats and profile, faggot
if you run into nothing but shitters, guess what, you are probably just as if not a bigger shitter than them
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>>572697992
?
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>>572697992
Is still dont get why dashfernus hasn't been nerfed to the ground
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>>572697992
wait till you encounter an echo shard mirage
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Uninstalled because of gunslop.
>>
ASS BLAST
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was thinking about installing the game again, but then it's just miserable slop is the game still unfun dogshit?
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>>572699513
Gun meta still hasn't been fixed
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>>572693109
Victor making space 12 times and you still do nothing with it?
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>>572685919
Why are you posting MGR on the /dlg/?
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>>572698619
having no decent interrupts in the game is actually so retarded
knockdown fvcking sucks when you're taxed by 2 seconds every time you really really really need it to take effect right fvcking nooowwww like what is actually the point

curses projectile is slow as hell and for twice the cost, so it isn't much better
it doesn't help that there are so many ways to negate interrupts too
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>>572684395
If I did this I'd do genderbent Mina desu. he still looks more feminine than m,ost troons though LOL
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>>572699818
>cuck everyone who relies on a channel instead of just nerfing dash infernus
no thanks
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>>572684395
How fucking low do you need to sink to cosplay as female, like unironically. Imagine that's someone son what an abnormal faggot, the worst part the guy looks like a 14 year onions cuck anyway.
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>Lock in victor
>Do nothing the entire 20 minutes (Try to not feed challenge: SUCCESSFUL)
>Bait the enemy team by getting ganked and my team responding
>They all die + I live so we get mid
>GG EZ
Victor is so low cortisol its funny
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>>572695990
Mo is a solved hero

And idk who needs to hear this but echoshard is core on no one. Its not good, its a fun gimmick item
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people arent even palying the game anymore
what the fuck is this matchmaking i've 4 losses where i legit can 1v3 but no one on my team ever shows up to anything so i get solo afflictions and 500 stuns and die gg
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>>572700418
Its core on Sinclair arguably
But that's about it
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Are this nigger's builds good for beginners?
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>>572700645
Are you solo only with a strong disdain for the neurally normal?
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>>572684079
*immobilize
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>>572700418
>doesnt know about sinclair echo shard bunny
>doesnt know about mirage echo shard tornado china edition

yeah im thinking you're an oracle player
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Mina would 100% be spamming tiktok
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>>572700482
look at these fucking victors and sevens im getting holyt SHIT DELTTE THE GAME ALREADY
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>>572701386
ah i c its a full medal below my mmr insane
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>>572684929
It's because shiv kills you slowly Ven one shots you when fed which causes infinitely more seethe.
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>>572684929
>Bloated HP pool
>One of the best guns in the game
>Built in Anti heal, CC and Execute into his kit
>Hypercarry but also has a strong lane
I'm sorry nigger you're just boosted if you think Venator isn't broken.
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>>572701070
I dont know shit about Sinclair but mirage echoshard is a gimmick. The cooldown is what kills it
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>>572701861
>no movement ability
>cant build spirit so more diminishing returns
>if he builds weapon damage his m1 sucks
>if he builds firerate his abilities suck
>traps LMAO

Venator SUCKS
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How did I do? I know the hair and outfit is cheating but how well did I replicate the face? I feel like theres something missing
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>>572698619
Dashfernus gets massively cucked by any displacement ability which pretty much forces him to build Unstoppable, if there's a Viscoos on your team it pretty much guarantees he can't use his dash properly until he gets it. It's frustrating to play against but simply having abilities work properly while he's in flame dash (Abrams shoulder charge still doesn't displace him...) would be a step in the right direction.
I think Dashfernus is a bit too overrated (even if it's still better than his M1 DoT build against a lot of comps)
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>>572702813
Perfect recreation, if I didn't know better I'd slowing hex that fucking thing on reflex
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>>572702813
not enough sweet baby inc dei in the face
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>>572679842
>>572680143
you saw what fucking happened to shiv today and you still want to act like this
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>>572682121
>470hours
>seeker 3
I genuinely don't know what to do. This isn't normal.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPbf-tSkydo
>POV: Youre Mina and nobody chose you for a game
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i fucking hate the circlemeta
why even have all these characters if it just comes down to who has the most aoe?
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>>572703908
>150 hours
>initiate 2
Be grateful, there's levels to this skill issue shit.
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>>572703908
open your last game and watch the replay from your perspective. write down every thing you personally did wrong or could have done differently. making excuses while doing this only hurts you so be honest. next time you play a match, keep -one- thing from that list in mind to actively make sure not to do. repeat.
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>>572703908
Play more m1ggers
Seeker games go on forever so they always outscale everyone, not playing a m1gger is just leaving the game's outcome in the hands of others.
>>
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti
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>>572704414
I was initiate 2 for almost 300 hours.
>>572704508
Gonna try that. I watched replays before, but never made a list.
>>572704527
I know but m1ggers aren't fun. The only carries I play are Victor and Infernus. I also still try out different characters. I've tried Shiv the last few matches and went down from Seeker 6 to 3.
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>enemies buy counters
>go 2 12
>enemies don't buy counter
>go 14 0
cool
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unironically less than 150cm tall.
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>>572705407
>what if i wish to be taller
>your height comes in the form of those looney tunes bumps on your head
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yep another day playing one normal match to keep my inflated oracle rank and then nothing but brawl
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>>572704601
>OII FEAR NUTHIN'
>one shots you
>goes to /dlg/ to complain that his traps aren't a doorman bell sized nuke
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>>572705303
I was going to ask why Silver didn't carry but surely spiritual overflow isn't the item
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>>572705875
she did fine, but the rest of her team was dumb enough to not buy a single knockdown and my team actually peeled for me (wow) so everyone got raped
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>>572705303
Im gonna save some of these screenshot in a time capsule so we can look back in afew years and laugh how dogshit the community skill is
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>>572706251
>fucking asc 4
>people still don't buy counters
amazing innit
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>>572705407
when will they fucking learn
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>>572703908
>>572704414
In last 10 hours I went from Seeker V to Initiate V
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>>572693109
>frontline makes space
>do nothing with it
????
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>>572703908
There's no fucking way
I'm less hours and ascendant 2
Do you have every single hero toggled on the select screen or something?
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>>572704508
>open your last game and watch the replay from your perspective
>write down every thing you personally did wrong or could have done differently
Well that was easy. Doesn't help much, though.
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>/dlg/ trying to comprehend that different people learn at vastly different rates
fascinating
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>>572707507
Personal deflection. Even if all that was true, you would have 100% made gorrlion mistakes you could have learned from
mobas are very much incremental in terms of learning, it all adds up. If you never bother fixing those mistakes you will remain a shitter.
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There are 6 people to a team, you do not have agency as only one of those no matter how good you think you are, if you're at a high rank it's half luck you weren't assigned worse players.
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>>572707539
There's no LEARNING here, it's a MOBA. MOBAs are 40% luck, your 40% character meta status, 10% itemization and 10% your personal skill. It's easier to carry in some Valorant, Overwatch or Rivals because you don't have to worry about macro and items and it's purely you aiming, pressing buttons right, map knowledge and remembering timings.
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>>572679978
this is a really tight spread, I had to back up like 20m to see the S
I'm thinkin gun shiv might be back
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>>572707539
Yeah, I have a learning disability. So, I could only make it to Oracle after a hundred hours but that's okay!
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>>572708010
I'm sure that's true buddy, if you were placed in eternus lobbies you'd perform the exact same its just your team letting you down!!!
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My most common mistake is trying to help retards who get into unfavorable team fights. I need to be more selfish.
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>>572708010
There's people like you coping for every single competitive teamgame and every single time it's routinely proven that you're full of shit. Better players repeatedly speedrun low elo accounts to the highest ranks and cope artists eat shit whenever someone puts them in a lobby matched with the rank they think they belong in.
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>>572707539
I'm literally mentally disabled and managed Ascendant, you do not have an excuse.
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>>572691412
unless Celeste was born like that and isn't using transformation magic she only keeps the dick to fuck with clients asking for horse parts
she'd suck your soul through your dick
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>>572708429
you can be retarded but press buttons right, don't pat yourself on the back too much
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>>572707507
And that excuse is why you will never improve. Keep making excuses for why yoshi is keeping you in seeker in oracle or whatever.
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>>572708239
>>572708398
Too much of your self worth rests on a video game and most of your success in that game is down to luck.
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>>572708010
You do have agency. Even in the 6v6 context, some heroes are godawful enough to have a win rate of 44%, while others get to run at 56% unpunished. This means a single person CAN impactfully drag an entire team of five other players down, or conversely, increase their probability of a win.
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>>572707507
>get friend
>they play a carry
>suddenly the game is way easier to climb besides the occasional match where a shitter genuinely does make it impossible to comeback with how hard they feed the other team's carry
genuinely that easy
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>>572708759
I consistently reach high ranks in pretty much every game I try to learn, including 1v1 games. I wish I was just lucky.
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>>572708903
Nobody cares tranny
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I need a new CPU man, when there's a big brool happening in the rift and doorman opens his door my frame rate just disappears
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>>572709067
my fps dips to 20 when i land a huge lash ult in the base.
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>>572709067
they fucked up something bad with the last patch. I had someone pause yesterday and it crashed the entire lobby's games, and 2 of them had their pc bluescreen.
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>win a game
>go down a rank
i thought you guys were just shitposting when you said this happened to you, but here i am.
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>>572709397
Crashing seems to be a lot more common now. I have a friend who's admittedly a linuxcuck and he crashes 2-3 times per game, especially when a shrine is destroyed.
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so is anything going to be done about automatic parries or no
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>>572703908
Is it impossible to climb without playing carries? Let's say I want to play Shiv and try to get good at him. Would I even be able to climb consistently?
Or what about supports like Kelvin?
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this is my new cope now
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>>572710145
What site is that?
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>>572710346
log your steam account into statlocker.gg and import your games there, there should be an option for playtime by rank
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We need more actual support items, right now its just rescue beam and divine barrier
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>>572710024
Theoretically it's possible, just because of you being good increasing the overall odds.
Practically, it's fucking stupid and will take you way longer than just spamming m1s and personally taking over the biggest luck element.
That said, Kelvin is busted so it's all freelo even on a support.
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>>572709007
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How to fix bebop

>he can no longer 180 degree turn while using hook to punch you behind him
>his bombs can harm him

why doesnt yoshi just do this?
>inb4 coping bebop mains scared their crutch one trick will be made fun to play against
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>>572710446
Neat, thanks!
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>>572712707
Give hook a 110s CD and make it trade places with whoever he grabbed
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anyone else notice parry detection being fucked because most of my parries didn't work and they still hit me
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>>572701861
Venator doesn't have obnoxiously overtuned movement like Celeste, Mina, Apollo, or Holliday, he has no get out of jail free card like Mirage or Wraith, and his gun isn't overpowered as fuck like Haze, he is easily the only good addition to the game out of the last 6 heroes because he is actually balanced. If anything he's underpowered because his traps are fucking bad.
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>>572709424
Someone else won two games in that time.
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>>572710145
statlocker is by far the worst website for anything. most stuff on it is outright wrong.
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>>572712707
Bebop is not good right now.
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>>572664241
>>572684395
I checked out night shift yesterday and had the exact same thought, why the fuck are they shilling the tranny so hard
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>>572712707
>crying about a D tier hero
initiateALLAH.......
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>>572697534
>complaining about people with barely 100 hours in the game
kill yourself you EUROPEAN retarded faggot
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>>572714740
>crying about a D tier hero
This place does that all the time, and surely not everyone here is initiate...
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>>572714740
>D tier bebop gets picked in comp matches
>SSS+++ tier dynamo is never seen in comp matches

volumes
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why are there so many rusniggers on NA servers
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>>572714740
>having a better, stronger, longer version of 3 characters ultimates on a 10 second cooldown is D tier, just dont be within 40 yards of bebops sightline dude
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>Buys Slowing Hex
>Buys Warp Stone
>Buys Knockdown
>Kills you from full hp with not a single soul invested in gun items, with you having NOTHING you can do
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>>572715027
um silver is S+++ though
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>*presses stone form*
I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT
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>>572713961
Go fuck yourself deathy your site is literally the same but worse

>>572715338
Pros play dynamo bad 2bh last I checked they still do ult imbue, yea spending all your souls on an interuptable 400s cd is bad

They should play him as a pos 3-4 not 6
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>>572715798
There aren't any, they only exist in low prio.
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>>572689816
Because the precedent in the past was to take black characters, or anything made by black people and make it white because "ew black people shit, but this thing is cool but we can't admit that the blacks made something cool so let's make white so we can accept it". That's why the other way around is racist-your just gonna ignore all this aren't you...?
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>>572718243
i believe this happened
i'm californian btw if that matters
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>*plok plok plok plok SWISH*
GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED
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>vyper partner doesnt slide when shooting
>doesnt help me when im getting ganged up on
>doesnt look at their map
>goes back to base to heal
>unaware healing minions exist
I hate this fucking elo man.
I'm stuck here because of my teamates and I will not hear otherwise
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What is this?
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>>572719014
The tiniest little bag you'll ever see
Also there's a bag worth about 50 unsecured souls
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>>572719014
When you clear neutral camps, boxes, or sinner's sacrifices you get "unsecured souls" they fall to the ground when you die but also become secured slowly over time and can be secured with a heavy melee by your killer or a teammate. You can spend them the same as secured souls at the shop.
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>>572710145
doesnt even show your real stats and all your matches so this info is fake, do better for yourself this is pathetic as fuck.
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why is bepoop so G tier
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>>572719014
>shit up the general before learning basic concepts of the game
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>>572718243
bait this lazy and brown should be bannable
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>>572719612
>Shitting up the thread instead of just not saying anything
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Silvertards, silveruppies, silverdowns........................................
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>>572716841
>Go fuck yourself deathy your site is literally the same but worse
genuinely who the fuck are you talking about? i don't follow ecelebs. i do know that statlocker is often wrong by multiple divisions about people's ranks though.
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>>572720863
This is the most retarded thing I have seen all day.
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>>572720863
I want Silver to give me uppies (in wolf form)
Imagine the hugs
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>>572719612
Didn't learn what the bags were until I played an inhouse since that shit wasn't explained anywhere when I started playing years ago,
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>>572721385
>Imagine the hugs
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>>572720863
>Those D tiers
really nigga
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>>572721729
But what a way to go it would be
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>>572720863
>fagtrackers being corrent at anything ever
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>>572720863
So, what, now she's... Filver instead?
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what am i doing wrong
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>>572722069
First off Leach is a terrible buy if you aren't a hybrid, get Mystic Reverb
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>>572721932
Niggers only say this when they disagree
This is just a roundabout way of saying "nuh uh i don't like what i'm seeing" because you're not even brave enough to actually do that
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>>572715989
Haze, like more than half the characters in the game, is a bad design and miserable to play against.
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>>572715989
she doesnt need half that shit all she needs is knockdown to guarantee her knife hits
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>>572722175
you're actually gigaright
do i imbue the sigil or the advance with it?
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>>572719612
Nobody lurks anymore or even bothers to check wikis or fucking Google
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>>572722221
>completely differs from what people play
>completely differs from what pros play
>completely differs on strength perception
>doesn't record over 90% of games
>you can easily be Eternus but that shit is going to show you as Oracle
fuck off with your approximation faggotry
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>>572714784
why am i matched with them?
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>>572720863
Where she should be, the hero is fundamentally broken and the game is bad if she's good. Some heroes just have to be in this state.
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Niggas in here really crying about Haze lmao can you say shitlow hours?
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>>572722367
I am surprised I don't see Bebop players get knockdown to guarantee a hook landing.
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>>572722584
Like half the characters in the game are broken beyond belief and never get fixed. Pocket, Shiv, Wraith, Kelvin, Ivy, Haze, Victor, Mirage, Celeste, Mina, the list goes on.
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>>572686571
>>572714405
he isn't trans though.
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>>572722559
>False
>True
>False
>Doesn't matter, still more reliable than (You)
>implying
1/5 is pretty inaccurate, which is amusing while you're bagging something else out for the same
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>>572699895
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>>572723278
I'd say Statlocker is pretty accurate. I'm currently Phantom 1 and it thinks I am Phantom 5, which is accurate because I have a like 60% winrate and the vast majority of my losses are due to feeding retards instead of my own performance.
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>>572722069
not carrying hard enough obviously.
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>>572723710
i can't carry bro i have 25 hours in the game
i barely know what buttons i'm pressing and where i'm going
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>>572720863
Uuhhh she's S+++ tier though didn't you see the tier list that one irrelevant tranny made?
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Why does shiv have an ape mouth?
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>Matchmaking update
Tell me /dlg/, if niggers managed to boost their ways up to the very top ranks and terrorise even E4/E5 lobbies in EU, how is this matchmaking update supposed to stop that? What changes? Honestly.
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>>572722504
>Lurk to see what bags are for the past weeks
>Not one person mentions them
>Ask them myself
>"WHAT THE FUCK!!!! ARE YOU ASKING DEADLOCK QUESTIONS.... ON THE DEADLOCK BOARD?!?!"
What causes this?
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>>572724029
because he monke
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>>572722367
Bro she literally just knifes you from invis it's not even remotely difficult. Then she pops hex knockdown and rapes you and if you somehow manage to range it she warp stones to chase. She shouldn't be allowed use items during ult. It's actually retarded.
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>>572690457
>>572689686
>he doesn't play punchbop
missing out on the most fun build in the game lad
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>>572700645
This grifting retard literally picks up any remotely FOTM game and pretends to be an authority figure on it after like 10 hours of play time. He's been doing it for close to 15 years and spams on /v/ and /vg/ constantly.
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Just got a low priority game for the first time in 2500 matches because some autistic faggot geist cried for half an hour straight about how I was 'griefing' by maxing kudzu first on ivy and he actually convinced enough faggots in the lobby to go ahead with mass reporting me. Unreal.
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>>572682371
>hit eternus 5
>legitimately get the most braindead people imaginable for 90% of my games
>literally going like 0-10 out of lane consistently every fucking game
>IN ETERNUS
>derank to eternus 3 and just uninstall
I don't see this matchmaking update fixing anything.
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>>572680295
If you queue as a carry you should legitimately be expected to hit soul per minute requirements. I'm not talking breaking records or anything. Just straight forward 1300 SPM. Something you could reasonably get if you were farming properly. And if you don't reach this and you clearly got carried yourself even on a win you should just not get any MMR. If you won and you clearly farmed properly then you get MMR. If you lose and you didn't farm for shit then just rape the person and derank them on the spot. They need to seriously start punishing these negroids for brooling non stop. Street Brawl was a fucking mistake. It encourages retards that the game is for them and then they get boosted by friends and wind up at e1 and then ruin top rank games when they auto fill into them.
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puddle punch is probably the most cancerous ability in the game and needs a rework asap
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>>572725265
stop being a wanker, pay attention and press F
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>>572725265
literally completely countered by a single button press with zero items needed
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>>572673796
Because 8% bullet resist isn't actually a whole lot. On my Ivy support I go basic mag -> slowing hex -> trophy collector -> healing nova -> superior duration -> titanic mag -> heroic aura for my 4800 spikes and I wind up with 24% bullet resist which is pretty alright. I get like 19% from picking up greater expansion and healing tempo later on which is nice for free resists. Indomitable never hurts afterwards.
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>>572671779
>buy egg because a lane is obnoxious and the best thing we can do is just clear waves and not engage
>lane partner immediately starts sperging out about me not constantly fighting in lane
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>NA Rem gets in my EU lobby
>spends the entire match whining about racism, homophobia, fascism and transphobia because Warden made a gay joke
NAsissies, why are you like this?
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started playing characters I don't know how to play to reduce my rank, went from oracle 2 to emissary 6 and now I don't know if I should continue or it's retarded
how many characters do people play? I feel like a cheat for just mastering 3
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>>572725478
>>572725472
>hear the audio
>but its not aimed at you
>waste parry, stand there afk for 1 second while being shot at
>next punch is aimed at you, get flinged across the map and die
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>>572725809
Amerigoys are mindbroken, that's all they can think about
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>>572725861
like 2-4
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>>572725472
>>572725478
>just be daigo umehara and parry chun li's super bro it's not hard
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>>572725809
He was probably trolling you because people in NA call each other fags all the time.
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>>572725809
amerigolems are subhuman
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>>572725912
outplayed (buy rebuttal idiot)
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How do I stop being a pussy and fight
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>shiv's bullet spread spells out his initial
Y'know, we're really hard on the devs, but subtle details like these are really fuckin' cool I'm ngl
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>>572665843
The only 4800 spike you should be doing on Shiv is improved spirit + radiant regen and then your green spike should be healing booster + healbane + restorative locket
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>>572725912
don't play with your eyes closed
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>>572722584
The hero is just shit and always has been, she needs buffs.
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>>572726972
the punch is aimed from behind you 99% of the time
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literally HOW do you counter this???
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>enemy has 80k soul lead
>in base killing our shit
>cant do anything as a rageless shiv
>decide to wait out the next 20 seconds to end the lost game
>team starts bitching at me and requesting the lobby to report me for going afk for 20 seconds
I fucking hate shitlow so fucking much man
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>>572724339
Haze being able to use items during ult is genuinely retarded, I have no idea why she is arbitrarily allowed to do so when I don't think anyone else can do it.

Haze has always been an OP character for retards anyway.
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>>572727237
end the game before the 3 hour mark
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Big respect to the Venator Sybiri in my street brawl
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>dominate early game
>literally double digit kills 0 deaths
>cant finish the game in 20 minutes so enemy carries farm
>one comeback rift
>enemy carries outscale our team, start winning fights
>lose

so why the fuck do i not just play carry every single game
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>>572727406
Here's another one that's retarded
>See haze jumping a team mate
>She's clearly about to start ulting
>Stoneform
>Her ult bar is 0%
>She has started shooting from her ult and it's playing the ult audio
>Clip her with stoneform right as this kicks off
>She gets 100% of her ult refunded
same shit happens with dynamo. utterly fucking retarded. no punishment.
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>>572727645
Quite a few characters have that ult refund mechanic if they get knocked out of the startup, I think Bebop does too.
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>>572694627
I mean who wouldn't
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>make like ten perfect plays in a row and end up winning a 1v6 by a miracle
>will never ever have that happen again in my life
>my entire team claps and thinks im some hyper reflex gigachad esports player with 1000000 hours
>actually just a really lucky shitter
anyone ever have this happen in their games?
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>>572727878
Also why the fuck are certain heroes immune to being stunned? Grey Talon etc
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>>572727912
>make like 10 perfect plays and bring my shit team back from a huge deficit
>see something about to go down
>warn them not to engage
>they ignore me and go in and die and are on 90 second respawns now
>lose game anyway
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>>572727237
>dispels it
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>>572728406
>it drops on the floor and kills your whole team
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>>572728113
let me guess, enemy had rejuv?
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All you have to do is dash in, do your full combo then dash out.
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if you're not big blue or even big green, your opinions don't actually fucking matter here
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>>572722572
the matchmaker arbitrarily has decided you should have a harder time ranking up than someone on a fresh account; have fun!
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>>572723331
I hope he gets laid for doing this at the very least.
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>>572729497
nah it was like they were respawning soon and we had no CDs and they decided to force anyway
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>enemy carries are wraith and drifter
>notice the drifter is doing full spirit nuke build from funny youtube video
>triple down on my resists with spellbreaker and spirit resilience
>become unkillable
idiots
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>>572729669
Bro, you don't understand. Enemy with by far the lowest soul count had only 1 bar of HP left, I HAD to keep pushing and die to the entire enemy team while being the only player with the lead!
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>>572730162
counterbuilding is funny in this game for how effectively it punishes people building items like retards
>"huh? what do you mean that one thing I have my whole build centered around's about to get easily countered? wat? D:"
and then they proceed to get raped and never try to change their items because they're too lizard brain to step outside of their comfort building
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>>572727237
Counterspell, Spellbreaker, Dispel
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>performance is noticeably worse YET AGAIN
who the fuck is the jeet in valve letting the game's optimization go to shit
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>>572727237
>current bonus: 402
if you let the calico get this powerful in a match then yeah, you're gonna get raped...
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>every Holiday build is now just stacking firing speed and spamming her revolver like a retarded chimp until you get a lucky headshot
BRAVO YOSHI BRAVO NOW SHE'S TRULY THE HIGH SKILL HERO SHE WAS MEANT TO BE!!!
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>>572724270
>play one game and see you're collecting a thing on your back when you clear camps and farm that gets bigger the more farm you have
>you lack the basic common sense to understand that this is a farm item so you have to rely on asking a forum
do you get the idea or does it have to be in a childrens book with big colorful pictures?
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>>572730694
>Get weird orb thing on back after a team fight
>Have zero clue what the fuck it is
>Ask the deadlock thread
>"How dare. I will now shit my pants."
What causes this?
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>>572730780
proved my point
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>>572730780
go back to overwatch nigger
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>>572730863
>>572730931
You still haven't answered why asking a simple question compelled you to dilate this hard.
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Eternus chad here, i never deny creeps and buy the same items every game.
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>doesn't know what the orb is
>gets told what the orb is
>still shits up thread as foretold
pottery
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Yes, they told me but I still want to know why it caused you do dilate
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>rolled back slice&dice
so, what exactly was their goal here?
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>>572730780
>>572724270
>lurk for weeks
>still can't figure out a basic game mechanic
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>>572731362
>Look up thread for info
>Nobody talks about the thing I want to know about
Wow, its crazy how I never figured it out.
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>>572728992
>E shifts it
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I hate Billy, Calico, Doorman,Grey talon, Haze, Holliday, Ivy, Mirage, and Yamato
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>im to much of a adhd zoomer to spend like 10 minutes maximum to read the deadlock wiki and learn the mechanics
>this is your fault
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>>572731446
>doesn't look at the wiki
>doesn't ask in-game
>doesn't google what unsecured souls are
>goes clueless for weeks until he goes onto 4chan
are you starting to get the picture
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>>572731773
>>572731843
Okay, but why did asking a question make you dilate this hard? You seem to be avoiding that. Should I have joined the other 500 posts crying about losing and the recent patch notes?
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>>572731575
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>>572731974
>ok but
ok but nothing just accept you can't understand basic concepts
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>>572731974
>your laughing at me for being a retard who cant read
>your clearly mad
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>get to emissaries
>roll back all the way to arcanist because the game somehow believes that ascending ranks means solo carrying a team of mouthbreathing retards against a competent stack ten times in a row
what the fuck is this matchmaking system, like genuinely
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>2k souls behind
>massive wave crashing on guardian
>both enemies with ult up
>50% HP
>teammate at 10% HP
This looks like the perfect moment to go all the way back to base and heal!
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>>572732229
Imagine if you just answered my question instead of dilating and doing the thing you apparently hate
>>572732297
Yes, thats why I asked questions. Apparently that upsets you.
>>572732347
You're*
But yes, judging by the hyper aggressive comments and ad hominems, yes, you are mad.

I'm going to start asking questions here more often.
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>>572732490
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>>572732490
>sarcastic green texting is hyper aggressive
LMFAO
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>>572732381
it's not even against stacks because the same problem persists at eternus 3-6 lobbies where you literally can't do any more than duo stack. the game just seems to hand you retards and is like gl hf!
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>>572730613
>calico
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>toggle "extra competitive"
>instantly go on a loss streak
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>>572732647
Sounds like you've been hostile for so long its become a normal part of your behavior. Concerning...
>>572732628
Concession accepted.
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>>572732825
hot
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>>572732837
Dude if you consider words online as hyper aggressive go to twitter.
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>>572725802
buying egg is trolling yourself and your lane partner.
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>>572732490
is this bait or are you genuinely this deranged of a retard
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>get put in low prio for the first time ever
>put against people as low as seeker
>get to rape them all on a meme build
>still win and had fun
this is supposed to be 'punishment' btw meanwhile you get 5 feeding troglodytes versus pro stacks in normal queue. KEK
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>>572684395
supertf? more like supermtf
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>>572733020
Words online are an extension of ones inner thoughts. If you act needlessly hostile online, why shouldn't I assume you're just a hostile person irl?
>>572733043
>"Nooooo! You're not supposed to clap back when I act aggressive for no reason!!!"
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>>572733021
the principle is that if you have a shitty lane and can't trade into the enemy you just buy egg, only engage with wave and then just pop it at the end of lane and use it to buy a t2
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>>572733219
>why shouldn't I assume you're just a hostile person irl?
Because the internet isnt real life retard
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>>572733219
>>572732490
>>572731974
>>572731446
You destroyed them. Well done.
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>>572733219
>Words online are an extension of ones inner thoughts.
so you admit that you're a retard.. interesting.
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>>572733280
the reality is it just makes your lane lose even harder (which, believe it or not, affects the other lanes in your game) and you get pretty much nothing out of it.
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bodied those freaks lmao
they are still reeling
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>>572733316
Read this part again: Words online are an extension of ones inner thoughts.
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>>572733395
So you agree that you were needlessly dilating over a simple question? I'm glad we can come to an agreement.
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>>572733493
>Words online are an extension of ones inner thoughts.
No actual actions you do irl are a much more accurate reflection
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>>572733456
Honestly I've seen lanes lose harder by trying to force into a duo they're outmatched by than by people just being passive in lane. Getting raped and feeding the enemy hyper scaler is 10x worse than playing like a bitch for the laning phase. It's the difference of them coming out with hundreds extra souls vs thousands. and even still you can argue the egg matches that few hundred they got.
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>>572662636
Intense handholding sex and tongue deep throat kissing with vyper
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>>572733664
Wrong. Words, especially on an anonymous board with no filter is the best way to get a grasp on how one thinks. You have to manually type out words. They are a direct extension of what you are thinking.
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>>572733664
>call literally every retard I meet online the n word
>actually not racist at all irl and I've actually stood up for black people that were getting shit for no reason
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>>572733821
>They are a direct extension of what you are thinking.
so do you constantly ponder basic things for weeks before trying to figure out what they are? because that's a direct example
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Yamato buffs when?
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>>572733684
making yourself 10% weaker means they can tower dive you that much easier and just kill you, making you more likely to feed.
if you truly have a bad lane match up just go even and play passively while farming boxes/waves but do not buy egg.
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>>572733821
>words speak louder than actions
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>>572734007
I hardly noticed the ball and just ignored it most of the time. So when i saw it in the lobby waiting for a match I decided to finally ask. Apparently this caused the Dilation Nation to come out of hiding.
>>572734149
Considering how you're acting youre probably a pseudo intellectual and very dishonest person irl.
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>>572733821
are you old enough to post here?
ps. if you're under 18 pls wink in chat
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>>572734240
>I hardly noticed the ball
the same one that drops when people have alot of farm and die?
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>>572734268
I mean people are acting like mass shooters didnt have an online profile of how they want to kill people. Its insane how people try to pretend the shit they post online isnt a glimps into their personality or thought process. But i guess that only applies when you want to mock someone and not have it thrown back on yourself.
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>>572734114
I'm gonna be real with you I wish they'd remove egg and trophy collector from the game completely.
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>>572732381
it's genuinely the worst matchmaking system by far out of any major online games out there
embarrassing for valve
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Shut the fuck up about your tiny balls and read the new Drifter lore reveal
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>>572730660
Holliday was never a high skill character with her stupid bounce pads making her impossible to punish.
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>>572732381
Welcome to hell, I've been stuck in emissary for months
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>>572734501
Name 10 matchmakers
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>>572734501
>win 5 games in a row
>completely standard matches, had to actually try to win
>hit eternus 5
>start getting handed the most blatant engagement matches of all time almost non stop for 20 games
>flame my retards after they don't listen to a fucking word I say and feed like crazy
>get chat banned for 2 days
>just stop playing and take a break for 2 days
>come back
>proceed to get people going 0-5 0-6 0-5 0-7 and we get raped within 20 minutes for four games straight
>report them for griefing because I'm actually fucking sick of games like this
>get report banned and chat banned for 4 days
this games a joke and if the matchmaking update doesn't actually fix anything I'm quitting for good. that's the last straw for me.
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>>572731240
Making Shiv overpowered again, he got a shitload of buffs and they didn't revert any of them. Classic Icefrog retarded balancing, but even worse.
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i found something interesting. Warden has been remodeled under the helmet. I think the model was updated to reflect his performance, balance-wise.
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>>572734939
>Nerf his gun over and over again despite heavy spirit warden being unplayably bad due to his ult sucking ass and him not doing enough damage
>Unlike Shiv he isn't a pet character of the devs so he never gets buffed into being OP while pretending it just is a rework
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>>572734937
I really doubt yoshi is icefrog. Different personalities. If you've talked to both you'd know. Yoshi is more open to suggestion. Icefrog just tells you what he's going to do and he basically just wants affirmation. If you get handed patch notes and disagree with them he just rubs his dick on your forehead. Yoshi will actually ask you to elaborate.
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>>572734501
The game isn't even out yet my guy
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>>572735667
and? are u fucking retarded game still has huge following and players they still don't know what to do with matchmaking after cs and dota
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>>572735308
I'm pretty sure it's a joke. Icefrog is in his 40s, he retired already.
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>>572735308
Nah, it's been confirmed that Yoshi is Icefrog. Why else would they have kept in the urn changes, except make them more and more retarded each iteration? He can pretend to be open to feedback but every single patch has made the game worse regardless.
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Dispel magic and counterspell should be disabled for purchase on infernus/holliday/celeste/shiv/dynamo
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>>572735667
>my guy
it's strange how every time some retard wants to suck off a dev for sucking they say this. I've seen it hundreds of times. it's like a self report on coming from reddit.
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>>572734668
Would he be more likely to kill indigenous cunts or catholic cunts?
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>>572736057
dispel magic and counterspell should be removed from the game entirely
>yeah I farmed some creeps for 3 minutes so now I get to just permanently say no to ultimates every 20s and completely invalidate the entire line up of spirit t3s on matched CDs
just make fags spend 6k on unstoppable.
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>>572734668
wow he's just like wolverine
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>>572734010
even ugly japs are cute
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>>572735667
Youre right redditerino! Its a heckin playtest so they can't complain about anything! Just take it up the ass!
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>>572736372
oh you're a catholic huh? name every cat
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>>572736675
ava
rem
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>>572737029
yeah? what about MY cat
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>>572737223
Mina
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>>572737637
I said CAT not BAT
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is this the perfect mokrill build?
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>four (4) allies bought tankbuster
There goes my 6 winstreak
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>>572737739
>tb
does he know?
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>>572737691
Theyre basically the same
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What's the deal with tankbuster on mo & krill?
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>>572738692
mystic burst/quicksilver reload damage procs count towards the amount of healing done when you use scorn. I guess tankbuster is just some cope item they build at some point when they run out of slots or something? it's certainly not worth rushing or anything.
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>>572738692
you can't proc it if you buy it too early and your utility is more important than dealing damage
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>>572738904
it's an item you buy in lane against another tank
mo likes roleplay bara
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>>572722175
yeah, mystic reverb on advance absolutely shreds people
me and rem fed drifter really bad early-game, but we managed a comeback
look at my haze btw
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>>572739204
9% current HP isn't as impressive as you think. especially in lane.
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>>572722175
is leech worth buying if you're going capacitor ivy or is her gun damage still too shit to bother
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>it's another cheatdicta that toggles in brawl
i'm tired of this episode
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can they make shiv useless again? thanks
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>win three games in a row easily, gain two subranks
>lose one match, lose two subranks
THANK YOU NIGGER YOSHIT AND HOTPOO FAGGOT
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>Silver giving herself a drunken depression schlick before passing out on the couch again
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Its time again, mirage edition

Top 10 eu+ top 10 na. Most recent mirage game, single instance purchases excluded. I must say as a mirage enjoyer i found the results pretty egregious and blasphemous. Echo shards is good but its an optional late game luxury, no Inhibitor or Scilencer is actually mindboggling
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>>572734668
>not even 500 years old
>game tries to hype him as "OLDER THAN FEAR ITSELF WOOOOO SO SPOOKY"
nigga a bum. a literal bum. fucking abrams book is scarier than that
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>>572740309
>when your dad walks out of your life
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>Game is called deadlock
>Graves summons are not locked
Fucking false advertising bullshit game.
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>>572740389
why 3 healbanes
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>>572736628
But a playtest is exactly what it is. What are you taking up the ass?
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>>572738574
there is literally nothing wrong with giving mo n krill tankbuster
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>>572740848
I tried to automate it and failed because the pixels are slightly different, just add them together
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>>572736057
>>572736512
It's like they learned nothing from Dota 2. BKB (or something similar like Linkens) being a mandatory purchase on basically everyone in Dota 2 was a huge mistake, and it is still a mistake in Deadlock.
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What is the point of every single item in the T3 spirit item section other than ability range/duration/cooldown
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>>572741631
To make you think they are worth buying. Rapid Recharge is the only other good T3 spirit item.
Disarming Hex is bad, decay is mediocre, Silence Wave got nerfed into being unusable and you never see anyone buy it anymore, Radiant Regen is usable on like 2 or 3 characters total, Surge of Power is only good on like, Seven. Knockdown is a meme since it can be dispelled or counterspelled.
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>>572740848
Fixed
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>>572740389
i don't get ricochet on Mirage
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>>572741887
procs on everyone
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>>572741806
If the upcoming item rebalance update doesn't fix this then im just gonna become a m1gger
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>>572741887
Thats ok actually imo, I used to run a single target mirage with reverb. Its a lil overrated, doesnt actually speed up farm much(because it sets you back 6k) and when checking my vods in a lot of teamfights its procing x2 and x4 on the secondary targets because they kept moving in and out the range
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>>572742148
>item rebalance
they're going to add cursed items and make everything even more convoluted
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>>572741887
Puts the mark on everything
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>>572742148
That's the funny part, all the best m1gger characters deal spirit damage anyway, so you aren't allowed to counterbuild them at all. They also don't need to invest much into spirit to do absurd spirit damage anyways.

>Mina
>Haze
>Mirage
>Wraith
>Infernigger
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Express shot on silver is a trap.
1000x better to go kinetic dash, quicksilver reload, swift striker and surge of power instead since it benefits both forms AND allows you to actually farm effectively.
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is this the perfect pocket build?
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>>572742565
why would you go quicksilver reload when she has a built in one
just build tempo shit???
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>>572742959
now you have TWO instant reloads to deal no damage with
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>>572743109
what do you even put it on? 2?
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>>572742565
>express shot is a trap
Agreed
>all that other shit
Eh, I used to rush for 40% firerate to be able to last hit(i think that was the breakpoint) but by the time I got it the lane was over and last hitting didnt really matter. Stacking fr is better for regular m1 but it sucks for slamfire(adding 100% to 300% means only 33% dps increase) and her ult already has a firerate stim
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>>572743271
Also her mag size sucks so firerate is reload city
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>like 25m into a game
>see the wraith built like this
>pick up a disarm before the next fight
>they just auto lose the fight
lol lmao
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Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>572742959
quicksilver for farming and to build into mercurial.
it bursts really well when imbued to her kick and allows a really fast farm.
when i'm getting slot locked I sell kinetic especially since mercurial is bound to both kick and pounce.
The only thing I lose out on selling kinetic is the extra stam and stam recovery which I admit is huge but at my elo I literally outrun my teamates during chase and end up dying along while my teamates are playing catch up.
All in all I actually can do damage in human form and when I enter wolf form I have enough fire rate to be dangerous from the get go instead of having to build it up.
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>>572743602
Graves should remain a shit-tier hero.
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they gotta delete dishonest heroes like holliday, calico, lash, every flyer desu
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>>572744216
>delete fun from the game
how about no
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it feels terrible for this to be a "closed playtest" but they just ignore reports from the playtesters. I'm not even bitching about my favorite hero being weak either there are broken features in their game that they've just been ignoring for two years now. you literally have to appear on DLNS for them to take your feedback into consideration
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>>572744312
Ive have multiple suggestions implemented, maybe you just care about dumb stuff that doesnt matter
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>>572744216
Removing Holliday and Celeste is fine, but Lash is actually fun.
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>>572744216
M1gger seethe lmao.
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>>572744551
there are plenty of honest heros you can pick up in like 3-4 games but to play shit like holliday you need a masters in physics just to be average
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>>572744494
you may be right. modern devs don't fix bugs anyways not much point in reporting them
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There needs to be a 6400 upgrade to dispel magic that lets you cleanse everything including cursed relic. It can give you -10% hp as a tradeoff or something
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>>572744727
95% of holliday movement is letting go of W and learning how to strafe, it's really not that complicated.
doing both that, barrel melees and headshots is a bit of a mental stack though
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>>572744910
It doesn't need a hp penalty, but only non-m1 heroes should be able to buy it.
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>is so vehemently dishonest that he loops back into honesty
based shiv
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>>572744727
>holliday monkeys
>masters at anything
Maybe masters at sucking dicks
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>>572745142
that's not how this works
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>>572744910
The penultimate item should always be an aggressive item, not a defensive. Otherwise games would last forever
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free game no bitching
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>see match graph
>2 teammates with legit 10k(next to 30-40k average) damage and 0-12 deaths
What the fuck do you even do lol, it's every single time when I lose it's always just the team with the gigashitters.
Are all moba games like this?
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>>572745021
soooooo divine barrier
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I genuinely hate Rem so much. If your team is even a little bit disorganized he just single-handedly wins the game, and thats most games. All a Rem player has to do is steal sinners, permapush waves with helpers and ult in teamfights. Thats it. It genuinely just wins the game for his team because in 90% of lobbies this completely fucks the enemy team's macro
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>>572745434
all mobas are like this but not as bad as this. I have thousands of hours across mobas since like 2010 and deadlock legitimately feels like you're being engagement matched.
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>>572745626
I just chalked it up to zoomers being bad at games, deadlock is pretty unforgiving if you just hold w+m1
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>>572745626
>>572745434
Engagement optimized matchmaking has been the standard since like 2012. Dota 2 had it for a long time, Deadlock definitely has it.
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I hate being in pisslow so much man. Its not even an ego thing, its that i genuinely feel you only get to play real Deadlock if you're at the very minimum in a mid-phantom lobby. I'm on a losing streak and i'm Phantom I so i keep getting mid-low oracle lobbies when i play characters i'm not used to and it sucks so bad. Nobody pushes, nobody takes objectives, you win a teamfight and everyone immediately 180s to farm jungle, nobody uses microphone, nobody replies to you. Its just not even a real match, its just things happening randomly. Even when you win it just feels like you got lucky. I get this bizarre feeling that i need to maintain a decent rank to even be able to play the game properly
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>Silver calls Mina a stacey
Is... is silver a femcel...? Is she ourgirl?
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engagementschizo is at it again
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name 5 honest heroes
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>>572745963
She's the main character of /dlg/ for a reason
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>>572745843
>game starts in phantom
pretty much, and even then you'll get a lot of bad apples up to mid asc
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>>572746018
Seven
Venator
Silver
Drifter
Warden
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>>572746210
>honest heroes are the ones who are literally a walking stat brick
this is why we can't have good things in life
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>>572718771
next hero confirmed?
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>>572746210
M1gger hands wrote this post.
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>>572747027
Can you even name one honest spirit hero?
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>>572747179
Paige.
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>>572747179
Of course I can. There's...uh...umm...

Fuck off m1gger
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>>572745626
A majority of deadlock players come from rivals, overwatch and CS. Once you realize this it explains alot of things.
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>>572744216
>calico
>aerial hero
What ginormous crack pipe have you been taking hits from?
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>in the lead
>lose a rift to a team with mcginnis and rem
>lose the game
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>>572747747
>nobody showed up to kill the men in black
>this must be ginnis and rem's fault!
I'm mcginnis' strongest hater but you must be joking
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>>572747726
>he doesnt play majestic leap magic carpet calico
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>>572747871
We tried but the healy circle and the rem buff too strong, they just tanked it
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They really made Drifter an unstoppable rape machine just by tweaking four numbers huh.
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>>572747726
reading comprehension
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Never playing silver again
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>>572748481
Wait for buffs, she's needed them for like three months
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>>572748417
They read my comment about his kit being fundamentally trash and how no number buffs could fix it. Took it as a challenge clearly
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>>572748564
Never playing silver again
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>>572748626
Wait for buffs, she's needed them for like three months
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>>572748675
Never playing silver again
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>Playing Victor into Spirit Abrams
Man this fucking sucks
Dude does everything I do but better and without needing 50k worth of items
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>>572688417
>Because it's a joke. It's supposed to be funny
That's what they said about Sneaky too.
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They should release another werewolf named gold that is a strict upgrade to silver
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>win
>no rank change
>lose
>no rank change
am i just losing games i play well and winning games i play terribly or something so my stats don't actually change my rank or something
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>>572734010
isnt she in pretty good spot?
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>>572748432
>reading comprehension
writing composition. you listed aerial heroes, explicitly linked fliers with dishonesty, and said "every flyer desu" like what am I supposed to take away other than your retarded ass thinks calico can fly
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anyone have some videos i can learn advanced tips from? when i search on youtube it all seems like clickbait shit that applies to all levels. i understand the game completely now but i want to learn new things
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>>572749448
Was just thinking of this yesterday
Literally better in every way and a 55% WR but all the pros put her in F tier every patch
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how to fix the game (/dlg/ approved)
>slow dashes by 33%
>increase all cooldowns by 200%
>buff gun
>buff silver until her winrate is 80% (sisyphean task)
>nerf all spirit damage by 60%
>reduce all aoe effects by 55% (no more aoeslop)
>bebop, rem, venator removed from the game
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>>572749934
Go back to CS2.
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Seeker is the most honest rank because everybody above is either coordinating with a duo or using cheat HUD mods
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>>572747726
You can tech with her dash to get sent flying.
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>>572750325
in seeker you can actually build non meta builds on non meta heroes making seeker the final holdout of SOVL in the entire game
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>>572749934
no no, leave bebop in
its yoshis vision for all bebop players to suffer without end
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i think bebop is legit the worst character in the game
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>>572749934
>>slow dashes by 33%
hehe... your slowing hex and slowing bullets bro?
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>>572750524
you are actually so right my bad
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>>572750325
I solo queued all the way to eternus 5 on support
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Just build greenbop and be a hookbot/tank
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>>572750408
Its super inconsistent because the dash loves to get stuck on random bits of architecture
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bebop ult should go through walls
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>>572750972
I want to have fun faggot
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>>572750918
notice how this anon didn't deny using hud cheat mods
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>>572749934
This general regularly seethes over gun though and insists it's literally always a gun meta.
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>>572751028
Ricochet should work on his ult, also his hook
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>>572751028
bebop bomb range should scale with stacks
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>>572751134
nah I've never used hud mods
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>>572752231
>>572752231
>>572752231
>>572752231
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>>572749934
how to ACTUALLY fix the game
>make movement more responsive so it's less like red dead redemption and more like tf2
>punish players for leaving in-progress matches
>way less visual clutter mid-late game (tho, how would you even fix this?)
>less stun mid-late game
>give apollo double damage double health double stamina double resists and make it so only i can play him
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>>572740621
But enough about Silver...



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