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Old Friends Edition

Previous cats: >>573549632

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

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>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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Yet another mention of "Nowhere" in the context of Kris. What's up with that?
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Chips ahoy landfaggots!
Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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a collaboration
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Dess bullies Kris
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Love Viro @w@
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>>573568223
The little shit deserves it
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>>573568065
Kris is self-destructive and the promise ends with them being sent Nowhere
Always bet on It's a Wonderful Life
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>>573568065
For Ralsei it's:
>Hot-Shave? Hot-Wax? Hot-Shock?
"Hot-Shock" is a clear reference to "FireShock", the Dragon Blazers spell that he used this chapter to protect Susie.
For Susie it's:
>Wash-hair? Hair-wash? Car-wash?
For Noelle (wut) it's:
>Snow-Flake? Snow-Flake?
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>>57356802
Love Noelle
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is anyone else getting raped by the heat? ive currently got a towel that ive drenched in water wrapped around my body with a big fan blowing on me just to keep cool
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>>573568045
*pays you 5G*
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>>573568419
I live in Texas. Heat is all I know.
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>>573568446
>SPAMTON, O, SPAMTON,
>OF MY FRIENDS, YOU ARE THE BEST
>AN OBJECT, HEART SHAPED, PLEASE TAKE FROM MY CHEST
>I'LL GIVE YOU MY RICHES, I'LL GIVE YOU MY POORS
>KROMER SANDWICH I FEED YOU, LIKE MONEY-FILLED SMORES
>YOU ARE HONEST AND PERFECT, NO NEED TO REPENT
>I'LL GIVE YOU MY STUFF 'TIL I DON'T HAVE A CENT
>AND WHEN I HAVE GIVEN, WITH NO MORE TO GIVE
>I'LL MAKE SURE HIS HATERS HAVE NOT LONG 2 LIVE
>I'LL SMASH MY TV WITH A BATTERING RAM
>(EMOTIONAL) I'LL KILL MY TV WITH A BATTERING RAM!
>I'LL BRUSH MY TV WITH MAYONNAISE AND SLIMES
>(MOVING) I'LL CRUSH MY TV FOR ITS HORRIBLE CRIMES!
>I DON'T NEED A TV ANYMORE!
>SPAMTON IS HERE, AND HE I ADORE!!!!!!
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>>573568045
*gives you Herbie*
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>>573568419
Nah. Yesterday it was three degrees less than the historic maximum, that was impossible. Right now it's only reasonably hot.
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>>573568419
It's only like 18 celsius outside after a week of cool weather and rain it's nice
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>>573568336
>>573562870
gushy cute shit was the intention
and will be the main intention of the next thing
and then porn probably, but also probably more interspersed with cutesy shit, if I have the ideas for it
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>>573568465
Thank you Mr. Spamton.
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>>573568475
I already did the rest of the poem but I can give you this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0q7k_Mc-9s
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>>573568065
>>573568282
Do all the Darkners say this foreboding shit on purpose or is it like a nervous tic
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>fall asleep
>brain tortures me with a vision of Noelle and my real childhood friend amalgamating together into some kind of creepypasta monster
>she cries in pain and tries to choke me
>wake up
Why would Gaster do this??????
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>>573568728
Thats not gaster thats just noelle anon
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>>573568537
Hell yeah, looking forward to more!
Porn and lovey-dovey stuff is the best combo anyway
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>>573568419
I've been doing the same only I haven't been using a body towel just a large tea towel.
Fan + damp cloth is the only thing getting me through these heatwaves.
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I love this evil little wretch
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>>573568282
>>Snow-Flake? Snow-Flake?
I think this is a reference to her absurdly dangerous ninja weapons because they were originally snowflakes she cut with scissors (and Shearies are scissors.) There's another reference to them later with the Shinobeetles too.
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>>573568863
of course!
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>>573568709
The Rudinn casually name dropping (You)r name in Castle Town. I don't trust these freaks.
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>>573568021
>Still trying to push eram
Yawn
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[screeching]
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>>573569063
He's just one of the Seven Flying Aces he's cool
I'm more concerned about Jigsaw Joe making it clear that Boss and Kris are two separate people
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>>573569162
Been away for a while, huh? Sorry with the friend shit added the other night It's not going away.
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Dustin Lucas Will Mike
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>>573569162
Given the only time we fight multiple FRIENDs is with Jane she seems to be the most likely owner
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>Kris
Anakin Skywalker
>Noelle
Padme
>Susie
Jar Jar Binks
>Ralsei
Obi Wan
>Gerson
Yoda
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>>573569516
>>Susie
>Jar Jar Binks
No way she plays a more important role than that. I'd give Jar Jar to Sans.
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>>573569516
Does that mean (You) are Qui-Gon Jinn
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>>573569287
>I'm more concerned about Jigsaw Joe making it clear that Boss and Kris are two separate people
When?
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>>573569516
>Me
GOOD, GOOD
USE YOUR AGGRESSIVE FEELINGS, KRIS
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>>573569571
the secret fuck squad are friends
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Could Shigeo Kageyama help Ralsei express his emotions in a more healthy form?
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>>573569440
Which means eram is their own super special sekrit character big boss and not, say, the herosword version of the roaring knight considering every other character in the game has a controller?
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Mike and Eram (if they aren't the same character) are important btw
schizofags won
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https://files.catbox.moe/vxfweg.mp4
ranking how evil deltarune characters are
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>>573569617
>Can the guy whose entire character is that he's mentally unstable and has trouble expressing his emotions help someone else
I mean, technically yes given the end of the series, but it's not like a noted power of his
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>>573569574
In the Fight Dojo
>Boss!
>You can ACT and SPARE on the same turn!
>If you know Kris's ACT will give an enemy 100% mercy...
>SPARE them on the same turn with Susie or Ralsei!
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>>573568021
ERAM gives me good thoughts
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They’re age-restricting Twitter lewds now.
PLEASE remember to use catbox in the future!
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Eram is just Mike who's just gaster. Jesus Christ how many bad guys do you need? You have gaster, the knight and their sick ass demon pets that are cool as hell called friends. Freinds won
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i wanna know what was going on kris' pockets
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>>573569516
Which characters are Rey and Kylo Ren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkAgLQ_0eU
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>>573569703
go on profile then media or open the link on one of those third party twitter viewer sites
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>>573569635
Mike is important in the sense he got eaten by a horde of evil fucking cats
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What did Orange mean when she said she was "Extra" now?
Extra what?
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>>573568521
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>>573569798
The age-restriction works even on Nitter!
These are the end times!
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>>573568573
https://files.catbox.moe/tu7m3n.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skolnIClmPM
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>>573569703
that's been a thing for a while now in european countries and what not. what. is that becoming a thing in america now or something??
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The fact that the forgotten man and FRIENDs are related is good... fewer mystery boxes
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Thoughts on the princess ribbon gloves only fitting Kris?
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>>573569851
nitter is as zogged as twitter for some reason. but you can view age restricted posts on xcancel just fine. it's weird that nitter hasn't turned that crap off.
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I will never be Toby Fox
I will never be Mortis Ghost
I will never be Eric Barone
I will never be Scott Cawthon
I will never be Daisuke Amaya
What is the point of me?
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>REE-RREEEW!
>REE-RREEEW!
>REE-RREEEW!
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What if Toby doesn't know what the ending is and just waits for a theory obscure enough to make canon?
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>>573569938
why be any of those losers when you could simply learn to be (you)?
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>cats aren't very smart
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Thoughts on tenna items specifically guarding against puppet/cat attacks now that we know friends are fucked up demon cats?
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>>573570047
someone edit this with image_friends lmao
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at what situation would Gaster say this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqcZtvJH7o
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>>573569938
You can still be the guys that made Everhood
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>>573569936
nitter is in the netherlands (EU age verification), xcancel is in the US
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>>573570141
eversnooze
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>>573569938
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>>573570171
"oh.."
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post (weird) noelles
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TEN FEET TWENTY THE FLOWER MAN
IS WAITING FOR THE TOUCH OF HIS HAND
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>>573570141
Everhood still feels like a weird spite on undertale half way.
You still get the comfy everyone's happy and fun ending but you have to do genocide to do it but that was because everyone's immortal or something.
They had a sequel right? I never played it.
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I wanna fuck asgore so good
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can you love something until you get sick of it?
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>>573570334
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>>573570347
dw no one did
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>>573570418
Where's the sex part?
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>Susie is poor, lonely and she's probably going to die
>Ralsei isn't real and probably will "die" too
>Kris is Kris
Man, their lives really suck when you think about it
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>>573570471
was it that bad? I thought the gameplay from the first one seemed cool at least
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>>573570494
No crying until the end
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who raised new Aquas?
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>>573570604
Toby Fox real?
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>>573570031
He'll change the ending so the fanbase send him death threats for making a game with dark themes have a dark ending.
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>>573570471
The fuck happened here.
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>>573570607
school knifing
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>>573570347
I don't think it's spiteful towards Undertale, they probably just started out with "What if Undertale but instead of pacifism being the good end it's genocide" and extrapolated from there and I think it worked out well
The sequel is a love it or hate it kind of thing because it goes really meta with it (I liked it personally) but the soundtrack is absolutely killer
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I look like this. Who want me?
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>>573570828
Yea from what I remember of it it wasn't even bad, just a real "have your cake and eat it too" as you go and brutally murder everyone as they're screaming in horror but then that's how you save everyone.
weird, but it sounds like 2 had better gameplay/music and that was the main thing I liked anyway
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>>573570812
must be a british school
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>>573570931
i NEED you please top me and make me pregnant
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>>573570967
Kris would NEVER say this...
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>>573569631
I think the chapter called Late Night has the Knight arrive late
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>>573571031
crazy to clock a krisfag like this, was it that obvious?
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>>573571048
Who slashed toriels tires at the beginning of the night ?
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>>573569687
Ralsei beat the shit out of him for this off screen to set an example for the others because he's really dedicated to pretending (You) are Kris
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>>573570494
Kris surviving in the end when all their friends are dead besides maybe Noelle feels like a fate worse than death
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I want Mew Mew to hypnotize me, she'd be like "Fetch me a hot towel, slave." and i'd be like "ok"
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Human, I remember your
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>>573571191
OH MY GOD
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>>573571382
that's a bit bland for a hypno scenario anon, got anything more interesting?
could be a beach towel I guess but still not a lot
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So the human soul is the player, who at some point entered Kris and started controlling their actions. So was Kris previously soulless? or did the player just take-over their soul?
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>>573569035
yipper
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>>573571191
Is this a serious question
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>>573568419
No Im working 70 hours a week in a cold ass hospital I have to wear layers and a sweater its really too fucking cold
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You. Show me an image you've never seen on /utg/ before OR ELSE.
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>>573569731
>Mrs.Palpatine
Susie at present
>Kylo Ren
He doesn't have enough of a character to have a comparison. Fucking Gaster is a more consistent character than this glooby fuck. FRIEND got patched in more ethos than this hack.
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>>573571675
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>>573569516
Noelle isnt 5 years older than Kris
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>>573568419
No, but I also most likely live on a different continent than you.
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>>573571503
I think they most likely traded their SOUL for this one, in a metaphorical deal with the devil. But there's a reference to Aqua changing colors this chapter so it could be the same SOUL, just a different color. I prefer to think it's two separate SOULs that will fuse together into the Switch SOUL later because that would be funny.
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>>573571465
I'm not good at erotic scenarios.
The towel has chemicals that makes her inflate for eternity
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>>573571675
in light of new revelations
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>>573571503
Aqua's the Kris parallel who keeps switching from Cyan to Red and we see Asgore turning from Yellow to Red when he becomes consumed by guilt and obsessed with the mission so the takeaway seems to be that Kris had just the one SOUL that became Red at some point and we started controlling at the start of the game
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>>573571819
Or maybe it got switched out when they did that demon summoning shit. Or rather Gaster used it as a way to hide what actually happened behind that.
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Deltarune became popular around the same time Star Wars declined as a franchise, not that it matters but it's interesting to point out
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I love Flowerys dumb jittery slow work. It's so damn goofy.
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>the gold widow armor is the most expensive in the game, and it causes you to earn less money
>the dealmaker causes you to earn less
>FRIEND in ch5 does damage to you based on the cost of an item in your inventory, more if it's more expensive
>eggs are connected to FRIEND, as eggs have protein
>the annoying dog appears in the egg room in ch5
>the annoying dog gives you the dog dollar, which reduces in value every chapter
>you can use it to combine with the gold widow to make the dog armor which causes you to earn no money
>dog/cat dichotomy
Screencap this shit. The dog armor is going to be the best armor against friend. also consider that FRIEND seems to have some sort of relation to money and items as well, aside from the spamton connections. he drops items in the ERAM battle. also, Seam is a cat and also a shopkeeper himself.
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https://files.catbox.moe/94m7cr.mp4
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Cock
Robot cock
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i love buckethead <3
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>>573572125
is the robot cock in the room with us?
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>>573572064
We have to fight friends directly at some point and they deal damage based on how valuable your armor is and the deal extra spite damage when you beat them depending on how much money you make killing them at the end of battle
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Protein
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>>573572370
She is cute!!! Her meal

Sour faced middle age woman energetically devouring a meal gap moe
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>>573568537
Fax brother spit your shit indeed
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>>573571675
I am certain I have not seen this iamge on /utg/ or anywhere else for that matter
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Woke up with a mind shattering headache again, but before I got on my computer I cleaned it hard for the first time in a few years because it kept lagging and freezing, I wonder if that's how having sex with Queen feels like...
>>573572125
Robot cock! Robot butt! Robot pussy! Robot body! Robot legs! Robot arms! Robot lips! Robot tongue!!!!!!!!
>>573572370
I still adore how you draw her face and body It's so fluffy and unique you need to become a professional artist and work with Toby asap!!
>>573571675
All my Mettatons are saved seconds before being posted so I'm sure this one hasn't been posted before probably...
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>>573571675
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hey guys!
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>>573568119
Made this forever ago because I thought it was funny, but not funny enough to have it commissioned.
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No way it’s your children!
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>>573572462
oh no Im not carolfag
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>>573572716
https://files.catbox.moe/t4c4nd.mp4
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smile again!
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>>573572706
oh my lawd
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The hotdog eating contest on the whiteboard is so good. Great work everyone.
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>>573572759
どっちも好きです、はい
どっちも欲しいです
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>>573572831
Aqua in a hotdog slurping contest but the hotdog is my fat spicy bonar
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to that one anon, i have a crush on you
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>>573568119
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>>573572984
Why are you gay for a pedo with a tiny dick
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>>573572984
give us a hint
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>>573572984
IS IT ME
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#nootice now Undyne and Asgore got kidnapped. That's because Alphys is the mastermind who ordered the Knight to kidnap both of her crushes. She also plays Cat Petterz and was the original owner of the Mew Mew figurine.
Very interesting.
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That’s my dreams!
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>>573573138
you forgot the knight tried to kidnap Toriel and Alphys dislikes Toriel
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Alphys long veiny womb stabbing futa cock
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Seth is a girl?
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>>573573138
Everything that you just said is true, the Knight is her own creation as well (Mettaton), what a devilish woman.
>>573573220
No evidence that was attempt at kidnapping the Knight didn't just grab her and run away like with Undyne and Asgore...
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>didnt bother to include alternate dialog for if you skipped Jevil or didnt recruit nubert
>15 different unique scenes depending on when you aborted weird route
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>>573573138
Alphys got so pissed off about everyone saying Gaster did all the work on the Amalgamates and Flowey that she became the end boss of the sequel
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>>573573185
Adorable (possibly edible) retards
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>>573573138
>the entire prophecy and plot is just alphys' gooner fantasy
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>>573573253
they/them pussy
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>>573573312
please understand, this is the smallest indie dev team in the world
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>>573573253
Seth is a trap
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>>573573253
play the game and find out
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>>573573312
The game doesn’t just “know” if you did pirouette against Jevil, for example. New flags will be patched into Chapters 1&2 on full release.
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Why did Alphys make the evil cats that love eggs and give them to Kris's Jungian shadow? Is she evil?
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>>573573253
Seth is whatever my dick is in the mood for in the moment
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Device theory but its Alphys using Gasters machine to vent
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Hide posts with recursive hiding the moment someone misgenders a character and your experience with /utg/ will improve tenfold by not having to watch the same discussion for the 50th time this week.
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Ja- rona
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Some Anon wondered if Shinobeetle is an actual beetle. There's 3% chance to get this flavor text during the battle:
>Smells like roasted chestnuts.
So they're likely roasted chestnuts.
...But then again, Floradinn smells like glass/vine, but it's still recruitable despite that. So I dunno
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>>573568021
What's the sword route? Is there credibility to a Third route? I saw that there's a twisted sword item but how do you get it?
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I miss the MTTfriend
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>>573573617
your fave got raped by cats
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>>573573783
Spamton tanked this.
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>>573573707
>What's the sword route?
Literally just exists to showcase the weird route. The problem is that it appears in chapter 3 which came out 4 fucking years everyone already knew about the weird route
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>>573573697
>Floradinn smells like glass/vine
Floradinns are Asgore's flower design glass pipes and bong.
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>>573573707
Sword route exist only in Chapter 3. You access it by getting S, T or Z rank on all boards.
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>>573568021
Hooman!
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>>573573854
oh so it's just the minigame? I thought it was a theory of a third route
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>>573573707
Sword route is the S-Rank Room game in Chapter 3 where the evil laughing cloak fuck shoots bombs at you, it's called that because it's called sword route in the code
No way to get Twisted Sword yet since it needs a Pure Crystal which we don't have but it may or may not require aborting Weird Route in chapter 2 unless there's another way to get the Thorn Ring later
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Seth's forest
https://files.catbox.moe/zs4vbg.jpg
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>>573573767
Are you talking about me or some probably much better poster? I haven't been posting much because I got a fever and now I'm recovering with a huge headache, but I'm planning on continuing my replaythrough of Undertale today probably while I work on that Mettaknight video with another anon.
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>>573573220
>>573573302
>>573573340
>>573573373
You guys think I'm joking but I legitimately think Alphys orchestrated a bunch of the FRIEND bullshit and that we're getting a proper Alphys boss fight.
A lot of the boss fights in Deltarune were fights that didn't happen in Undertale but the fans desperately wanted. The NEO body, Gerson, the human souls(kinda) and a non-Switch exclusive Mew Mew fight.
So it's really suspicious to me how Alphys -who was central to the Determination experiment and created Amalgamated in Undertale- has such minimized presence here but is also somehow caught up in everything at the same time. We don't actually know much about her in Deltarune and what her dreams and greater motives are. So she might be vastly different from her Undertale counterpart.
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>>573573926
Theory of a third route is called "Twisted Route", not sword route
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>>573573253
yes, toby made them an nb a week before releasing deltarune like he did with mettaton
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>>573574042
Spookydood released a theory video where he called it the Sword Route and said that the Mantle game actually corresponds to the hidden middle route, and not Side B. This is where the confusion is coming from. It’s an evolution of the Twisted Route theory
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>>573573990
You battle Alphys during true final pacifist boss battle, tho
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>>573573968
i'm talking about you silly. i like your positive attitude, it brightens the thread for me as this place is sometimes a den of negativity.
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>>573574136
>where he called it the Sword Route
That's just plain wrong. Sword Route is Chapter 3-only route, that's a fact. At least call it "Twisted Sword Route".
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>>573573220
>Alphys dislikes Toriel
What on earth are you basing this on? We know Toriel personally hired Alphys to work at the school and Alphys acts like normal Alphys in the one interaction we see between them.
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>>573573990
I was only half-joking in my reply, I fully believe Alphys is in the evil groupchat and will matter way more than people give her credit for, I just don't think she's the mastermind like Gaster or as important as the Knight (Mettaton)
I think we could be having an Alphys secret fight in chapter 7 maybe? or 6 if the Seam fight never happens but that'd upset a lot of people including maybe me.
>>573574169
Barely counts as a battle and she uses Mettaton's bullets.
>>573574263
Aw thank you I like your positive attitude too! honestly the threads drastically improved in my eyes after I added word filters to my 4chanX thingy with slurs and other hateful stuff, then I enabled "recursive hiding" and disabled "stubs" so that all posts and replies to posts with hateful stuff gets hidden from my view entirely with me not even knowing they are there, highly recommend.
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>>573573990
I don't know about Alphys orchestrating it but it's possible the FRIENDS are a Flowey type situation where she was messing around with virtual cats and this somehow made Satan happen
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>>573570607
Dealing with 8 aquas at once sounds awful, but then I realize that isn't far from how it feels sometimes
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Sometimes I think about touching Kris' crotch in their darkworld form
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>>573573312
>didnt recruit nubert
I'm pretty sure you can't fight the Nubert gang if you don't have Nubert in Castle Town. Maybe it's bugged like Jack?
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>>573574441
>and she uses Mettaton's bullets
That's her technology, no?
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>>573574506
You can’t fight the Trashy Trio if you’ve failed to recruit anyone at all
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Could it be that the "Owner" controls a pack of FRIENDs unconsciously?.. So then this could be anyone: Noelle, Alphys, etc.
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>>573568282
So Noelle going with (You) through the previous chapters after the WR reset is pretty much confirmed right
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>>573574560
You can do it if you didn't recruit the small car from Cyber City
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I want to be Aqua's panties
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>>573574516
Yes but still underwhelming compared to literally every other battle in the game for important characters like her...
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If you play chapter 4 make sure to kill the titan babies. This also kills the disgusting freak known as Jackenstein
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Can Spamton overcome his trauma?
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>>573573783
friend going grrrrrr mrreow ghghghghghgh biting
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>>573574642
Doubtful, Toby's team is not competent enough to hide the code without accidentally leaking it. It's likely there for LORE reasons, specifically for data-miners to find. It just indicates that Noelle was there in the "original" game, but we'll never see or play said game, we only have Gaster's ROMHack.
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>>573573990
>>573574441
>>573574516
I believe this because it supports the "Toby likes everything about Mettaton except Mettaton himself so he just reuses all of his elements and his surroundings while ignoring the character" theory
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>>573574867
Some trauma just stays with you for life sadly.
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>>573574471
What would be the purpose of that narratively? Alphys's role in the true lab ties into her character arc, the human-monster war and Asgore's motivations, etc, it's not just something that happens for the sake of something happening. I don't understand how "Kris's teacher invented cannibalistic demons by putting Lisa Simpson in Catz" fits into anything.
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>>573575012
Maybe Alphys resurrected Kris or something
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>>573574913
I don't think that's even a thing that is possible unless you mean "Toby doesn't like Mettaton's design" which I guess makes sense since I don't think we're ever seeing the same Undertale design again in Deltarune.
Toby is 100% leading up to something with the TennaMettaton sideplot.
>>573575012
NTA but maybe "human/monster experimentation and modding games is the same if NPCs are real like in Deltarune"
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We're gonna see further evolutions of Titan Spawn, aren't we?..
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>>573575012
Alphys' involvement is gonna be played as a joke, Japanese do that all the time. Wacky side character caused something horrifying but their role in this is not treated seriously.
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>>573575265
I wanna roll this chubby susie down an incline like a baby elephant seal
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Why do I have a feeling the entire Holiday family wanted to fuck Asriel?
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I want to sniff Pink's crotch
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Everyone complains that some mook mobs in Chapter 5 are quoting Jevil, but even Top Chef (Chapter 1 character) quoted Jevil, too, a long time ago:
>Like night and day, the cake and the world revolve
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>>573572064
>>the dealmaker causes you to earn less
Actually just wrong how do you people not double check shit like this before you concoct your theories? This is why people believe unfounded bullshit you people just say shit, don't check if it's true and then believe the other made up shit people say
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>>573568119
I woke up with a craving for pippin
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i like them
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>>573575542
No one in the ghost family house showers because Blooky can't afford the water bill while feeding all of them at the same time.
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>>573574913
Toby would like Mettaton if Undyne didn't exist because then he'd be writing a Mettalphys vs Sansphys love triangle subplot in Deltarune that takes up a questionably large amount of playtime despite only happening in the short light world segments and having no relation to the plot
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>>573575282
I mean that Toby likes elements of Mettaton and keeps reusing them in Deltarune
>flamboyant glam - Queen (and also kinda Rouxls)
>TV host - Tenna
>NEO form - Spamton
>ghost lore - Mew Mew
But he doesn't like the actual character, which is why he barely does anything with him. The Alphys thing is a crackpot theory but it would fit into Toby's fascination with continually cucking Mettaton out of relevance while continually reusing aspects of his character
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florafriend!

cat_anon
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>>573568537
Still can't believe Kris x Mew Mew is an actual ship that I unironically like
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>got locked into the "Get raped by aqua route AGAIN
How the fuck do I avoid this? Nothing I've tried works
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darkners...
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>>573575604
I wonder what in kris's psyche makes "the world revolving" such a primal, recurring thought that it keeps appearing in their dark worlds? I wonder why it would start becoming so much more prominent as we approach the end of the game? Weird.
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>>573575709
>Mettalphys vs Sansphys love triangle subplot in Deltarune that takes up a questionably large amount of playtime despite only happening in the short light world segments and having no relation to the plot
This sounds insane
I kinda want to see it now
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>>573575738
Floradinn on the uppers
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>>573575843
NO.
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>>573575843
I'm gonna put Shi and Kawkaw at the couple's table in Castle Town so they can fall in love again
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>>573572984
its alright baby i know you want me bad
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>>573575978
Never ask a Anti-Darkness the species of their boyfriend
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>>573575695
What would a ghost even smell like?
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post trans ghosts
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>>573573990
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>>573575871
There's a bunch of options
>The world revolves around me
>The world revolves whether or not I am in it
>The world revolves due to the Timepoop
>The world revolves because you get a Brandish world spinning game mechanic later
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>>573575685
Hahaha me too hahahahahaha HAHAAHAHAHAHA
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>>573575715
You don't think the guy who hated his life before he got to transition into a sexy robot not wanting to leave his house makes sense? if Toby just used Mettaton out of nowhere for no reason just walking around in his ghost form It'd suck it wouldn't make sense for his character, Toby hasn't used Mettaton yet because he is saving him for something bigger later, time will prove me right, Spamton's shadow crystal coming from Mettaton's broken dream just adds to his relevance.
Does Toby hate Papyrus? does Toby hate Asriel? no!!! he is saving them for later because a writer doesn't just toss every single character he likes into the plot right at the beginning, they need to serve a purpose which they will.
>>573576076
Sexually.
>>573576136
All of them except Ruins Dummy... maybe.
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>>573575749
Having the same problem. I think you need to avoid this attack but it feels genuinely impossible.
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>>573575910
High on life bby
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>>573576162
It's obviously the last one. Kris's genetic memory from their ancestor Varik causes this.
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alright /utg/ its time to confess, which anons would you:
>fuck
>marry
>kill
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>>573576251
is it a sign i've been using the internet for too long when i can tell an artist reaaaaaally wants to fuck yoshi just by the way they draw
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>>573576213
Toby doesn't exactly hate Mettaton, he's just not interested in using him while paradoxically being interested in the elements that made up his character. I think Mettaton floating outside his house at the end is the biggest pay-off he's gonna get in DR, maybe with Tenna in a trolley wagon.
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>>573576321
>Kralsei shippers
>Krusie shippers
>Kriselle shippers
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>>573576156
>milkdrinker and catty were red herrings
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>>573574136
spookydood is a fucking retarded white nigger
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>>573576313
Mfs be like:
>Youtube used to be so good back in 2018, there was no retarded clickbait back then
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>>573575843
Chapter 4 Darkners were kinda boring in retrospect.
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If Alphys was a Cat Petterz modder what are the chances that she's a game developer too?
What if she's the lead developer of the Hometown simulation and FRIENDs are bug patches that target anything "irregular" happening indiscriminately?
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>>573576321
>no one
>no one
>everyone who makes fun of me here
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>>573576531
alpha gen post
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>>573576531
Youtube hasn't been good since Google bought it out and tried to trick people into using their real names
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I still think Mad Mew Mew should've been the ruins ghost.
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Maybe Seth and Aqua should scissor,idk
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Why did Friend Inside Me go from saying he will never die to becoming suicidal? Is this the work of Chara?
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>>573576408
If we get the Roaring, I expect Mettaton and Tenna to interact more directly, and maybe he'll even cooperatively possess him like his cousin did with Mew Mew. I don't think he'll get more than that, but the new era of Mettaspamtenna will be powerful which is what Toby cares about as a fudanshi.
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>>573576482
Who hurt you? He’s probably the most likable theorist. Watch his streams he obviously loves the game. Unlike… some OTHER theorists
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>>573576531
niggas having nostalgia for fucking 2018 just fucking put me in a coffin
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>>573576251
people act like they love the floradinns but when i'm high fat and horny and want a gamer girlfriend everyone just makes fun of me...
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The game will end on the roaring happening and it turns out its actually a good thing and also everyone from UT will be there
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Patchouli Knowledge
Maria Ushiromiya
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>>573576321
>Anons who argue with me
>Anons who say nice things to me
>Anons who post things I dont like
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Toby made Seth non binary so you could imagine them scissoring or dicking Aqua to your preference
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>>573576764
I mean the game will unironically end on the Roaring the same way Mother 3 ended with a similar event
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>>573576313
absolutely fucking huge if true. can anyone confirm. please
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>>573576321
Krisrapers
Desspedos
Doerapers
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>>573576162
>thing that is true for everyone in the world
>thing that is true for everyone in the world... 2!
>thing that the prequel establishes exists in universe and the current game has tons of thematic and contextual for
>funny shit post
Truly it is a mystery
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>>573576531
>>573576605
>>573576720
i have nostalgia for 2012 markiplier and pewdiepie and yamimash. yuppp... the good times..
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>>573576541
I'm glad we're finally allowed to say this now that Chapter 4 is not the last available piece of DR content and we don't have to defend every mediocre part of it (we do that for 5 now)
>>573576607
Sorry anon the Ruins ghost is doomed to be the forgotten sibling because it doesn't do anythng
I think it has great potential to complete the four tempers as the straight man phlegmatic though
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Do you think Kris x Pink is problematic?
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Would Noelle watch Larpiplier or the Larping Video Game Nerd
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>>573577040
Yes, the problem being that I think Mad Mew Mew is an unfunny joke that went on for way too long. But at least she's conventionally attractive, which is more than I can say for any other major Kris ship (Noelle is boring)
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>>573576408
I have to respect your view but I really doubt Toby is that kind of writer, he has never disappointed me in my life except for maybe not using Berdly properly, I am a hard believer that Mettaton is going to be VERY relevant and that all of that "using his elements but not him" stuff is teasing for his return and not just random stuff Toby likes, but, at the bare minimum, here's what I think will 100% at the very least happen:
Tenna and Spamton are by far the most popular Deltarune characters of all time.
Tenna wanting to be given to a new home is HEAVILY pushed onto the player if you don't give him to Mettaton immediately.
The Spamtenna plotline has to reach a conclusion somehow, Toby isn't going to end the game with "haha lol uhh Tenna is Mettaton's TV now uhh he's happy guys! the end.", Tenna has to return SOMEHOW.
Maddie (Mettaton's cousin mind you) already knows about the darkworlds.
At some point Mettaton WILL hang out with Tenna in a darkworld, it has to happen, no one is fucking stealing the TV out of Mettaton's house but Tenna has to show up again.
Tenna and Mettaton will be a pair working together to help Kris somehow because Tenna likes Kris a lot, that or they'll have a gay sideplot with Spamton.
That's the bare minimum of what I think will happen and that's if Toby is a lazy writer referencing Mettaton for years for no real reason which he isn't.
>>573576607
>>573576970
Ruins Ghost is possessing Seam, invest now.
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>>573576970
I thought the ruins ghost was mad dummy.
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>>573576720
To be fair, 2018 will soon have been 10 years ago so I think it's valid
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>>573577040
Not really
Kris x Pink is one of those ship that people who don't like it feel the need to make it problematic instead of just ignoring it
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there are people that were ten years old in 2020 that are now 16 years old sharing their retarded opinions on twitter. that is terrifying.
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>>573576531
Noone said that nigga
This post was written by ipad toddler fingers
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>>573576983
the pink pantsu collection grows...
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>>573577040
You misspelled erotic
And the answer is YES!!!
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>>573577197
Hand in your /utg/ card NOW
Mad Dummy was Undyne's training dummy, that's why they lived in Waterfall
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>>573576864
>Mother 3 ending
The only thing that toby will directly lift from mother 3's ending will be the point at the end after Lucas awakens the dragon and we, the player, are revealed to exist in universe and everyone thanks us for guiding Kris past whatever calamity "the one ending" is with everyone in tact or something like that
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>>573574136
>said that the Mantle game actually corresponds to the hidden middle route, and not Side B
Well that's just dumb. You have to freeze the blue bird to proceed through it and the post-Snowgrave alleyway and manhole appears in it. At most, it could be a mixed up version of multiple routes since there's parts with no real counterpart yet, but the parts that are already present in the game correspond to the weird route specifically and definitely NOT abort2.
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>>573576251
Carnal desire
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If you get a boner to aqua your life is fucking OVER. You can never recover
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>>573576970
The universe where Mew Mew was actually a poker faced dandere...
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What are the red ribbons supposed to be?
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So like stupid fucking theory... what are the chances that The Roaring Knight is someone's bullet pattern? Probably makes no sense but at least could explain how it has seemingly a lot of powers no lightners or even darkness has shown doing, specially being maleable/not having a set form, but who knows I just kinda woke up
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>>573576965
Thematically and contextually things like Kris becoming better friends with Ralsei and getting over their piano complex in chapter 4 makes no sense if Kris is timepooped and seeing all of this for the eight sextillionth time
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>>573577040
I think technically yes but its 'papyrus going on a date with frisk in undertale' levels of unremarkable non-issue
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>>573577272
Chapter 5 had such an incredible diversity of beautiful environments it’s almost hard to believe
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>>573575679
That was a brainfart on my part, I meant to say it made you earn more, lol. It makes sense within what I was saying though. Spamton item which has a Cat/Puppet element makes you earn more. The Dog Armor however, makes you earn nothing.
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Noelle could've killed Pink
I wish she was in our party
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>>573576714
nta, but he's literally bottom-of-the-barrel clickbait channel that regurgitates public domain theories.
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>>573577418
does this artist not know how to draw pecs or are those ftm tits?
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>>573577418
Do you really like this guy? Anon?
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They are playing piano together
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>>573577413
This has the potential for lots of funny edits of what the actual Knight's wielder looks like on top of their silhouette
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FUCK DARKNERS WE WILL NEVER BE EQUALS
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Blue is soooooooooooooooo lake and boring unironically the lowest of the soul flowers
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>>573577513
Yes but I like him, the guy
He’s charming on his streams
I would
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So does Kris actually hate anime or just Alphys?
I didn't see Kris reacting violently to anything related to Pink.
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>>573576607
Napstablook should have been the ruins dummy ghost. Just have them say that they couldn't get into the whole possession thing despite trying it out. It makes it funnier for them to interrupt Maddie seething at you about how you treated the ruins dummy.
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>>573577534
i think he is ok i just like the art
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>>573577635
Secretly likes anime, but hates that fact
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>>573577171
>The Spamtenna plotline has to reach a conclusion somehow, Toby isn't going to end the game with "haha lol uhh Tenna is Mettaton's TV now uhh he's happy guys! the end.", Tenna has to return SOMEHOW.
If chapter 7 actually does do this and ignores Spamton outside of some flavor text this place is going to throw the same kind of tantrum /v/ threw over Suselle
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Darkners do it better
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>>573577279
you're probably younger than me... when anons talk about undertale being their childhoods i feel old... i'm a hag... i'm bones...
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>>573577413
The Knight can exit the Dark World and has a removable helmet that Kris desperately tries to stop thinking about when you bring it up so as much as I like "The Knight is a projection" and "the Knight is a shadow" type beats chances seem slim
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>>573577682
Thankfully that's never happening because Spamton is Toby's golden boy.
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>>573577757
im 23 and i already feel old and out of touch with people younger than me
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tongue
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these ralseis are extremely precious and activate my cute aggression thank you anon
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>>573577295
>Noone said that nigga
This guy literally brings up 2018 as an example of "the good old days of Youtube" lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKZJnXZSR7E
I kinda agree with him about most video essay slop but it's funny regardless
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>>573577578
I agree Blue is easily the least interesting Flower. His butterfly is the only good thing about him. I don't get why people suck Seth's dick so hard either, is it just because they're a nerd and that's just instant points with Deltarune fans? I found Seth kinda boring. Their tactician gimmick was fun for battles though.
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>>573576156
did you play the fucking game bro susie was the one drinking the milk
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>>573577370
Reimu reference and an allusion to Flowery standing in for the red SOUL
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>>573577635
Kris is chuuni as fuck. They're one of those people who talks about how stupid and bad anime is but secretly watches more than anyone else and has very strong opinions on subs vs dubs.
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had my first deltarune dream. nsfw but kris brought a vibe (bullet vibe or something) into the dark world to train ralsei with and it basically transmitted ralsei's anal status to him telepathically. there was a cute scene where ralsei slowly sat up after it was in and h
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>>573577848
Seth is an adorable dork
Did you see their little dance with Aqua
Did you see them cry for Aqua’s help after their one attack failed
Did you see them get locked in jail by their own partner
Did you carry them blushing on your head
Did you see how it was when they tried to read Asgore their story
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Mike will save Spamton from all the abusers.
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>>573577845
As a rule of life shit just keeps getting worse. And when shit gets worse people go to the freshest thing in their memory for "a time something was better". And i guess it was 2018 for this fag.
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Flowery > Yellow > Orange > Aqua > Green > Seth >>> Blue
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>Mew, this bitch is crazy
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Worst ship? Other than Kriselle of course.
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>>573577757
Don't worry I'm ancient too (35+) and I fucking loves hags.
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All the Flowers should have been consistently anime, including Blue and Yellow.
Also Rouxls should have fucked all of them. How the fuck can this go out on as last lighthearted chapter without the funniest character in the game?
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>>573577968
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>>573577682
>this place is going to throw the same kind of tantrum /v/ threw over Suselle
No the general won't
Yes the spamtenna shippers would be upset but they aren't even a fraction as mentally ill as the suselle deniers (who have been coping and ignoring the obvious hints for nearly a fucking decade), susellehaters are a whole other breed of mental illness
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>people jerk they dicks off to this
Erm. Kinda gross?
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>>573577635
>Raw Moon
>(Are they, pronouncing it wrong on purpose?) [When using it on Noelle; unused]
Probably the closest thing to Kris expressing distaste for anything Japanese this chapter. Maybe they were just tsundere for anime all along.
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>>573577979
>anon got snatched by the Roaring Knight
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>>573577635
Kris just hates Alphys and Berdly.
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>>573578141
Facts
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Kris and Asgore will have a father-son bonding experience when they DP a mew mew silicone pocket pussy together(yes the irritable ghost is in there.)
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>>573578201
Kris hates a lot of people
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Despite being the gayest flower Blue is the straight man
Clopen
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>>573578157
i dont have a dick but i still jerk off to aqua :^)
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It feels forced to make the entire game revolve around a geeked teenage dyke with possible BPD, in the main route she's framed to be an actually hidden great angel that will do some power of love bullshit to break the prophecy and having the only other alternate route of the game be COMPLETELY focused on her feels unfair, especially with the chapter skip shit he conjured in the most recent one. You can say that her and Kris were close before but I want the game to focus on stuff that's actually going on instead of trying to put the spotlight on her with a bunch of backstory vagueposting that's up there with Asgore's, even if it were clearer I don't care about her trauma and want to see how everything else unfolds with KRIS, RALSEI and SUSIE
She's not even aesthetically pleasing, she really just looks like Bambi if she had a long fucking face and a blonde wig, those retarded buckteeth make it worse, the only thing salvaging her appearance is every drawfag giving her sexual body proportions and an anime girl face. Other characters' sprites look normal atleast, you will never convince me that Noelle isn't chopped as fuck
And let's not even speak about the timeloop and kriselle knight mental retardation

I don't like Noelle basically
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>>573578141
people genuinely being in denial of suselle is the weirdest shit about the fandom on 4chan. i get not liking it but hating it so much that you warp the game in your head to believe that it's not a thing is so weird to me. it's been obviously the plan since chapter 1.
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Suselle will not live to see chapter 7
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Raly
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do you guys think we will be getting aqua and blue soul modes at some point in 6/7?
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girlfriend..?
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>>573578268
Same-sex /ss/ is oddly unrepresented on the internet
It's always men fantasizing about being molested as boys by an older girl, or women fantasizing about being molested as girls by an older guy
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>>573476309
There is one actually but for chapter 1 only
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>>573577810
i'm 10 years older than you....aiyaaaa....
>>573578085
and gray hair really enhances a guy's look, i will never be brainwashed by society to hate gray hair...
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>>573578354
>the main route she's framed to be an actually hidden great angel that will do some power of love bullshit to break the prophecy
This shit is not happening dawg
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>[...], you big ugly hatless long-eared FREAK!!
>Or I'm... I'm telling my BIG SIS!!!
>"Big Sis?" What's her name, Marigold the Giant Rat?
Everyone is shitting at Ralsei for blowing up against Orange's insults, but consider the following:
Orange is 20 light years + 1 dark day old.
Ralsei is 0 light days + 4 dark days old.
No matter of your perceptive, Ralsei is either almost as old as Orange, or significantly younger than Orange.
Children make mistakes. You should teach and guide them, not bash them. This applies to Ralsei.
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>>573578391
Absolutely
The moment where Kris denies the Knight and accepts their own humanity and Cyan SOUL mode activates is going to be Peak Gaming
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>>573577823
I want Rouxls' tongue deep inside my mouth.
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>>573578354
I wouldnt be upset with Deltarune being the Noelle and Dess show if there was any hint at all the story would go this route in chapter 1. The Holiday family completely hijacked Kris' story.
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Older anons are hot.......
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>>573578391
Aqua is dead
But we will 100% be getting the skeleton blue soul mode when we fight uuuuuuuuuh a skeleton of Rudy that Susie's dumb ass brought to life yeah that seems legit
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>>573577773
That might be right, it still does not contradict what I say could be, the knight's bullet pattern dissapears but whoever the knight is can go out, and on that other part, well it IS Kris's imagination so it can change perspective to the point it becomes a joke character instead so it's not reliable, I guess it's a non-zero chance but would make it REALLY hard to make clear who the knight is as it can make it a lot more broad who could be since it's done remotely.
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>>573578608
I’m rather ugly actually
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will toby rewrite the awful dialogue from chapter 1 before the final release or nah
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>>573578479
No it isnt, youre just ignorant. Dont project that onto the world.
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>>573578479
i guess? it helps that i am not a selfinsertfag, i think its hotter when i am out of the picture
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>>573578682
Oh... well SOME older anons are hot and I would kiss those hot anons if I could.
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>>573578741
I'm glad to be ignorant on these matters, this means I am not the worst version of myself there could be
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Back to being garbage, eh, /utg/? It was good while it lasted, I guess.
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>>573578391
Ramb will get the cyan SOUL mode fight because of his connection with Kris and to symbolize RambGODS' unwavering patience in waiting for more Ramb content.
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>>573578564
>Ralsei is 0 light days
You don't know that. His light age is currently unknown.
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>>573578479
uh, no, girls just tend to not self insert the way guys do.
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>>573578564
Bratty Ralsei Correction
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>>573578564
Ages aside, the whole thing started because of a sitcom-tier misunderstanding, I cannot take it seriously, let alone take either side in this.
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pedophilia is still bad
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Whenever the topic comes up I always feel excluded because I feel like I'm the only person into characters of the same age range as mine...
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>>573578479
3 replies and no one is telling you /ss/ stands for straight shota?
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>>573578843
At least we got a whole day to actually talk about the game.
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>>573578860
This anon has not read enough yuri fanfiction written by biological women
>>573578928
Words mean what I want them to mean at the moment actually
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>>573578732
This is one of the most memorable lines in the game
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>>573578843
The threads actually fine right now, what are you even mad about? I'd say it's actually an improvement over how it's been on average since Chapter 5 came out.
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>>573578860
This is completely false
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>>573578390
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Pink accepts Mew Mew's wishes but Mew Mew keeps Eldritch Secrets from Pink
This will have a thematic & such payoff later
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>>573578928
I was going to make a post talking about it but didn't in case I was actually missing something and I was wrong
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The only important takeaway from Ralsei bullying Orange is that Ralsei hates the player and is just barely concealing it for the sake of appeasement
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>>573578925
then I dont wanna be good
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>>573575542
i want to bury my face in her crotch and rub my nose on her pubes
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>>573578927
I don't care about the age of characters but to me Aqua has absolutely negative sex appeal, so I just stare at the thread going "hmm, ok" while they post the blue girl as if she's a sex goddess.
>>573579008
Some people don't understand slow chill threads are the best.
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>>573578990
you posted about /ss/ not yuri self insert, and still, yuri self insert fic with women is niche, pick any fandom you like and the self insert with a woman fic will be written by males 9 times out of 10. i read fanfic buddy don't test me
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Improvement?
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>>573578564
Ralsei was in the right for putting Orange in her place
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>>573578391
It's all fun and games until we get the GRAY soul mode and can no longer interact with the game
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>>573579181
I love Chu Chu Kissy Cutie!!
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>>573579037
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my wife is so beautiful
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>>573579181
I would fuck Greenson
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>>573568537
Were you the one who made these anon? If so, I need you to keep making more. It feeds my soul
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>>573579181
This just highlights how weird the flowers' designs are compared to everything else in the game. The Mad Mike one is kinda cool though.
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>>573579181
Why is sucidal Knight such a funny thought
I imagine it shooting itself in the head without taking off the helmet and hitting someone with a ricochet
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I miss my husband
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>>573572370
Kissing her
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>>573579008
Susellefag bitter no one likes the forced yurishit
These people get what they want and it's still not enough they want everyone to love it and act like theyre the underdog, just like Carol voters
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>>573578157
this is the aqua art that i consider to be genuinely pedophilia. you can no longer use the excuse that no child looks like this, this artist likely referenced a real kid and now you're jerking yourself off to it
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>>573579410
Nigga shut the fuck up
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>>573579170
I mean, even outside of yuri, doesn't regular "my OC x Sephiroth" and the like fanfiction blatantly fall under self-insert?
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>>573577428
>Kris becoming better friends with Ralsei
Kris already likes Ralsei and Susie. Kris has a memory of Ralsei and Susie in the sword route and is uncomfortable when we recreate them killing the two of them in the memory
>getting over their piano complex in chapter 4 makes no sense if Kris is timepooped
Kris "not being able to play the piano" is not the point of those moments. It's not an anxiety thing, Kris clearly can play the piano just fine. More than fine actually, Kris plays at a very high level for a teenager since they can come up with elaborate arrangements of the diagetic in-game music, at least two of which ahead of their actual appearance in chapter 5 btw. The point of the chapter 4 scene is that Kris has trouble controlling their body when we're on control and whether because Susie asking them to play made them comfortable enough to or because they reached a silent understanding with us Kris is able to solve the puzzle with their actual skill level. I lean towards the former since if you do actually play the whole thing yourself the first time Kris will mess up the last note
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>thread is chill
>anon asks why the thread is shit
>crying about aquafags and suselle on cooldown starts to fill the thread
nooticed
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Toby knew what he did with aqua and pink
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>>573579410
I misread this as carol vorers also what the fuck are you talking about
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>>573579413
>this artist likely referenced a real kid
it doesn't look like they referenced anything to me, just looks like they drew a bean and gave it limbs
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>>573579413
Yeah it's almost like those people shouldn't be allowed to exist in anything resembling a polite society or feel safe enough to use the internet the way they do.
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>>573579603
I hate ralsei so much
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>>573579580
you're being disingenuous, pedo
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>>573568065
Kris is a real nowhere man (Kris was a man in earlier drafts from ten+ years ago)
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>Susie you fucking dumbass. how dare you get attached to the a welcoming, fun, loving world that accepts you and takes care of you. the moral of the story is that you have to reject that and be in the REAL world. where your parents are deadends assholes that treat you like shit, everyone hates you and, you are dumb and poor as fuck with no future. dont you see that is so much better because its real? how could you even think to go into escapism land. silly Susie.
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>>573579662
I'm not a fan of it either, but maybe you know something about naked kids that I don't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IFAScPv8Q8
>HAHA I WAS RIGHT, FRIEND WAS IS JUST A GENERIC ENEMY MOB, IT WAS NEVER IMPORTANT, FUCK YOU FAGGOTS FOR FORCING TOBY TO PATCH IN THE DIALOGUE BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T STOP CRITICIZING THE CHAPTER
Why has Chapter 5 and this fucking cat in particular been attracting the most braindead discourse?
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>>573579525
I'm fine about Aqua, tho. It's on-topic. I'm not fine about "anon dating" garbage talk that keeps re-appearing without getting deleted.
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>>573579603
but this is genuinely good advice
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>>573579660
That's fine, I only need Toby to continue loving him.
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>>573575483
This is a much better topic than whatever you guys are going on about
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>>573579723
Wait what did Toby patch in? Does the hidden corner FRIEND that attacks you actually say something now?
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>>573579603
Harsh but true
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Kris is Lambdadelta
Noelle is Bernkastel
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>>573579489
it does but when a man self inserts he tends to bend the fictional world to his tastes or writes an anonymous figure, while a woman self inserting oftentimes has an OC or self inserts into an existing character, which is why men call yaoi cuckshit because they don't get that lots of women lile yaoi because they do want to fuck one more than the other while also enjoying the dynamic or fetish or what have you. and again, you first mentioned /ss/ in terms of a woman self inserting into a loli, then mentioned self inserting into yuri, so...
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>>573579706
Some people genuinely think Toby is going in that direction and that's proof enough 99% of society has brain damage.
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>>573579364
You are free to put him in the cafe whenever you feel like it my dude.
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>>573579706
Toby was a rich kid, he believes that.
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>>573579181
Jequa is way too fucking cute
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>>573579706
why can't it just be a plot point that the dark world isn't real instead of a message
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>>573579873
You know what I mean! I miss when it was fresh and new and everybody was drawing him
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>>573579813
Yes. New Pink shop dialogue that casually drops what FRIEND is if you interact with it in Chapter 5 and have the Egg.
https://deltarune.wiki/w/Pink
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>>573579971
Anon don't be gross.
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>>573579723
>IT WAS NEVER IMPORTANT
The dialogue directly confirms that FRIEND is important and a dire threat, and THIS is what you take out of it? Some people are so far up their ass they won't understand basic words.
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>>573579991
Because stories have meaning and plot points have messages
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>>573579991
Because major elements aren't usually put into the story for nothing
>>573580052
Fucking eggfags hogging all the good shit again
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>trans ralsei
>Rudy knight
>Eram matters
Give me more absolute dogshit theories
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Why is everyone using “relevancy” instead of relevance
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>>573579971
I don't get it.
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>>573579991
Because that anon is either baiting or thinking in black-and-white
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>>573579170
>the self insert with a woman fic will be written by males 9 times out of 10
I thought I was the only one to have noticed this phenomenon and thought I was going insane
Of course there's actual yume fics written by women and there's no shortage of them but not all the self-insert fics will be by them
It reminds me of the time AI chatbots were starting to gain popularity, I was checking out the platform my friend used because they suggested I did and all the bots tagged with female POV or similar were all very obviously written by a man, the writing and scenarios were dead giveaways
Why do moids do this shit?
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>>573579706
>Susie finding solace and growth in the Dark Worlds
Good, necessary even
>Susie wanting the adventure to last forever
Bad
Why isn't anyone getting this? People are getting kidnapped, the adventures aren't all good, Kris is in some kind of torture nexus, and the Roaring might happen. The game is screaming in your face that these characters benefit from the Dark World yet cannot ignore reality.
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who knew tricky tony could revitalize the fandom with a single small 14 line piece of dialogue
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>>573580129
>moids
you need to stop talking like this
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>>573580129
Men are expected to be “strong” so the idea of being “weakened” and “debased” is erotic to them
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Kissing anons, mew~
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>>573579706
Unless Susie wants to transition into a dust pile, she need to live in the Light World. Dark Worlds are incompatible with living creatures. Do you think it's a coincidence that Susie's scene came directly after flowers "woke up" to be in the Light World because they can't survive in the Dark World?
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>>573580129
I have no idea what either of you are talking about honestly unless you mean like "be a catgirl" bot shit. I used to frequent the chatbot generalon on /d/ and there was one time they found some website with yume bots tailor-made for women. It was funny stuff like "ruthless mafia boss with a heart of gold" and lengthy description of how he's supposed to treat you.
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I want to ride Noelle
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>>573580216
femoids are really upset that hey got called that by people on the internet a whole decade ago still
anyone who uses r9k slang in regular conversation on normal boards is beyond saving or intentionally trolling
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>>573579923
This is true, that's why the game shits on Catti (hard-working lower middle class girl) and uplifts Noelle (rich girl completely blind to how well off she is)
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>>573580360
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>>573580121
It’s her antler velvet
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>>573580129
>moids
wrong site nonna
but they do it because it gets them off. the bots aimed at women are equally as retarded.
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>>573580385
you shouldnt use "femoids" or "foids" either dude be nice we're all friends here
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>>573580512
Oh I thought it was some period thing
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the plot of deltarune is just a convoluted mess to get to the ending btw
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>>573580052
Also supposedly made it so whacking titan spawn with the shard unrecruits jackenstein
Also added a function that allows the game to check any flag in any save file, even ones you're not playing on currently
Few other odd changes too
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Toby hates togore
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>>573580157
I think because pretty much always (and here included) thats not the message they are trying to give.
As you said, realistically the dark worlds are bad because they will bring the end of the world. no shit.

but the general moral message that is being brought forth is escapism=bad. point blank. like even if you removed the roaring and prophecy Gaster stuff, it would still have been brought negativity that Susie likes running away from reality into the dark worlds.

when in reality. people in her position, dont really have much besides escapism.
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>>573579723
>FRIEND WAS IS JUST A GENERIC ENEMY MOB
How the fuck do people think this when Mew Mew is clearly trying to warn you about cats owned by a specific person and not the general concept of cat enemies?
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>>573580385
This Noelle face keeps reminding me of something at the tip of my memory but that imagery keeps eluding me. Maybe Angelica from Rugrats? Close but I think it's something different...
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No but really though why is all moid sexuality so predatory and patriarchal
I have never met a moid who sincerely considers himself to be my equal
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>>573580521
Tree Ralsei might be the dumbest thing this fandom has ever seriously considered.
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>>573580521
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>>573580664
>>>/r9k/
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>>573579825
Noelle is Ange and Dess is Battler
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>>573580664
can you stop bringing negativity onto the thread i dont want to read "moid" or "foid" for the rest of my life
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>>573580631
>but the general moral message that is being brought forth is escapism=bad
NTA, but I don't see it. To me it feels more like Toby's saying that everything is good in moderation and escapism only becomes bad when it takes over your life.
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>>573580691
>falls on Flowery
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>>573578354
>Krish
If Deltarune wash good Noelle would talk with a lishp like thish
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>>573580109
rudy knight sneak fuck you
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>>573580862
Isnt that suicide?
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>>573580791
There are literal pedophile rapists in here and you’re concerned about one little word that hurts your little moid feefees
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I will say something controversial anon should be free to write moid, foid, nigger, faggot and such.
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>>573580847
One of my favorite moments overall, Ch4 made me smile a lot
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Just report and hide off-topic posters.
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>>573580148
pretty
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>First it was /lgbt/ raid
>Then it is /r9k/ raid
When will it end?
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>>573580847
>*pomf* What are we going to do on the bed, Kris?
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Why is chapter 5 Japan? I know its because of the one manga. But why? Every other dark world was thematically relevant
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>>573580910
Murder-suicide, very romantic
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now yuo see...
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>>573580757
I wish /r9k/ were a more comfy board. It's such a shithole.
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>>573580987
Clearly Asgore is a closeted weeb.
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>>573580834
Is this real, or a render?
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>>573580987
It’s a garden. The world’s two big garden countries are Britain and Japan.
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i am suicide
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>>573580109
Rudy is the only other plausible candidate besides Dess whether you like it or not
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>>573580953
Every 4chan board post-2020 is shit but I wish we'd get a raid of Japanese Bird Cooking Spaghetti or Japanese Dog Jumping Through Five Hoops or Gachimuchi/INMU from old /jp/...
>>573581020
I still feel like Mettaton and Blooky should be swapped...
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>>573580834
If I don't get an Orange plush I will cast a hex on Toby Fox.
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>>573580681
>Tree Ralsei
>Kriselle amalgamate
>Alphys is FRIEND's owner
The new holy trinity of retarded theories
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>>573580983
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>>573580987
Honestly I would have love a cop and crime themed dark world and the gangster outfits made a comeback as Chief Asgore tried to solve the mystery of the fun gang mafia. The flowers could have been his police force.
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>>573580987
Maybe you didn't notice that Toby even though somewhat care about creating a good story, he will make some bullshits justification to write things he likes (yes, shocking he likes japan).
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Why would Rudy turn into a dark static skeleton frisbee
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>>573581020
There's something very cozy about the idea of visiting Sad Prince Napstablook in his castle and trying to brighten his day
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>>573581132
unc
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>>573581075
The final hamfisted allegory boss of Deltarune...
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>>573580631
No it isn't. I wish I could find the interview Toby stated this in, but he was once asked how he feels motivated to make games when the world is shit and his answer was that games are a comfort away from harsh reality, and it's okay up to a point, and to not ignore the world. This has been his philosophy since Undertale. Deltarune is not cynical in the slightest. Susie finding happiness and safety in the Dark world isn't bad, thinking it's a permanent solution is the bad thing.
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>>573580681
>>573581147
Tree Ralsei is the most in-your-face thing ever you guys can't be this retarded
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>>573580606
>Also supposedly made it so whacking titan spawn with the shard unrecruits jackenstein
That has been the case since launch, it's not new. It's probably just a bug since you fight the Titanspawn after the point where Jack lives or dies.
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>>573581153
i get the feeling that Kris would actually giggle at that
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>>573580918
i agree with this even if i hate most of these words (faggot is fine at this point)
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>>573581061
real
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>>573581178
>Ralsei trying every gimmicky pizza topping because he's drunk on the power of free will
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Why do Mew Mew haters call the themes of her fight “hamfisted” when they were too subtle for them to notice the first time around? Like literally none of them got it. It used to be “it means nothing” now it’s “it means too much, not subtle enough”
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>>573580157
why is it bad? If temmie can talk like a stupid girl on gaia into her 30s, if omocat can keep liking shota, why does Susies adventure have to end?
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>>573581317
cool
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>>573580681
>Dumb
It's actually heavily foreshadowed. Only retards doubt it because it's the Ralsei theory with the most in game evidence and makes the most sense. What's your Ralsei theory? Some cringe Titan shit that complete fanon probably. People don't like Tree Ralsei because they realize it's "boring" enough to be true and that upsets them.
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>>573581354
The themes of her fight is the only thing I like about her as a Krisfag
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>>573580987
>board games
>internet
>TV/video games
>books
>anime
How is this out of place exactly?
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Uuuuuu aqua butthole!
https://x.com/i/status/2071691162449019021
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>>573581203
Blooky is meant to be genderless /nonbinary like all ghosts that don't possess a body since they are only referred to with they/them pronouns. (and any time Toby accidentally misgenders them like in the artbook or the undertale demo he corrects it later)
>>573581205
22 is young.
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>>573581020
this picture is how certain theories look to me
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>>573581178
>wagging tail
i want to tug it gently
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>>573581178
>>573581438
>>573581442
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>>573581396
>the most in game evidence
You mean his door, and?..
>makes the most sense
Makes ZERO sense. Was there a tree indoors in any of the dark worlds? No? Topic closed.
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the more time I spend here my disdain for theorists seems to grow
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>>573581254
It's in my face as being outwardly stupid.
It reads like someone tried to work their way backwards from roots, which I never looked into as a theory because it also sounded really dumb, and ignores the simple fact that a tree isn't walking around to the different dark worlds or even makes sense based on what we know about Darkners being personally relevant to Lightners.
Who the fuck cares about some random tree in Hometown?
It's not even like there's a specific unique tree in the entire town and him being all the trees is stupid too. It doesn't even work for themes and such unless you want to directly reference The Giving Tree or whatever.
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lets all do this, okay?
https://grids.fun/t/about-me-deltarune-characters-pp1d0?list=deltarune-67vgp
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>>573581450
>>573581501
kekkkkk
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>>573581429
Not relevant to the characters. Chapter 2 was mostly the festival and had almost no internet culture or themes of escapism into internet communities because that wasnt relevant to Noelle or Kris as much as love.
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>>573581439
Man, it's been a while since UT, I actually forgot about the ghost thing
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Ice-E's status?
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>Cats, once they sniff protein and will never stop until they get it
Are we being told that Friends are after our cum?
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Ralsei spearmint chewing gum theory
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>>573581501
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>>573580834
Orange is the best flower. Best theme (excluding Flower Man), best design, the funniest
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whoever made this mess of a sprite should be hung, drawn, and quartered
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>>573581627
E=mc^2
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>>573581583
Okey!
>>573581602
That happens It's been over 10 years since it came out, I'll continue my replaythrough of it later today so I don't make any mistakes by accident too.
>>573581660
Holy shit, five hoops!!!
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>>573581631
>Toby's Team starts writing another lore update
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>>573580216
Newfag-kun...
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Yeah if Ralsei says he's a girl I'll draw him with a vagina and also pregnant.
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>>573581553
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>>573581594
Chapter 5 has no themes of Japanese culture either, it's an aesthetic just like the cyber stuff in chapter 2 or the libraries in chapter 4
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>>573581768
Darkners cannot get pregnant. They are not real.
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>>573581439
Genderless is already a type of non-binary, just like "male" is a type of "binary". There's no need for a slash.
Anyway, ghosts are naturally spawned that way, and not a genetic disorder, so trying to assign LGBT+ labels to them seem disingenuous.
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>>573581693
WOWIE! SANS, THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT MY SPRITEWORK ON THE COMPUTER!
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>>573581553
>>573581798
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>>573581665
Whoever made this seems like they lost a lot of arguments on the internet in a row to have needed to make it. Like they have some personal beef with whoever runs the deltawiki because they aren't going to change important character pages over headcanon.
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>>573581693
I have special eyes
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>>573581665
do you want me to also put the 300 "he/him" used for you?
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Carol's sprite is so bad that people think that she's like half-way in the dark world at all time.
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>>573581583
>no gerson
>no annoying dog
aiyo
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>>573581903
>deltawiki
>aren't going to change important character pages over headcanon
kek
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Using moid and foid has been a thread joke for the last year and now the newfags are trying to rewrite history and tell you that you can't keep joking the way you have been doing
Highly disappointing
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>>573570106
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>>573581830
>genetic disorder
I hope you evolve and change as a person and don't try to derail the threads with outdated beliefs in the future, I shall not continue this conversation any further in this thread or any other.
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Is Carol's sprite the only part of Deltarune that is universally agreed to have dropped the ball? Even those who like it do so in spite of knowing it's fugly
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>>573581903
they're clearly seething
>>573581893
>>573581798
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>>573581994
I actually did check and it explicitly lists
Pronouns:He/Him
Along with
"Welcome. I am the Prince of this Kingdom...
The KINGDOM OF DARKNESS."
-Ralsei introducing himself in Chapter 1
Right at the top of the page.
Ralsei is still a guy according to the wiki, thankfully.
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>>573581931
"LovelyBoy" ACT seems like a nail in the coffin for that theory. Green Ralsei ACTs from Ralsei's Spells page come directly from inside Ralsei.
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>>573582049
I genuinely wished death upon the Knight for the first time this Chapter
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>>573581903
i agree and the most telling part about it is that you can see it was drawn by someone who likely barely gives a fuck about ralsei, where are his horns?
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>>573581554
>ralsei was about to tell us what he is before susie cut him off, meaning its something ordinary and nothing crazy or incriminating to kris
>code to the bunker is a fucking pine tree
>ROOTS is how he's in every dark world
>temmie said "drew ralsei" and drew a PINE TREE with his clothes for some reason
>"(Ralsei's) always getting mixed up with flowers, isn't he... (that hasn't happened)" quote from toby
>the acorn dialogues are just all hinting at ralsei's deal
>trees are used symbolically to hide information, Ralsei does this all the time
>parallels flowey
>his shape and door
>susie thinks of christmas trees when she sees a dummy dressed in ralsei's clothes
>words get mixed up in the darkworld, if the tree had "asriel" carved in it this could become "ralsei" in the dark world, also explains the heart design on his clothing
>clover likes trees and cutes boys. the joke is that ralsei is both.
>pinecones
>album showing the light world reflections of the fun gang shows a tree in ralsei's place
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>>573581893
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Just checked my Vessel for the first time since 2018
Why is his favorite color red? I would never pick this.
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REMINDER that FLOWERY wants to RAPE and DEFILE ralsei
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>>573582259
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When Flowery died Ralsei was definitely thinking "It should have been Orange instead"
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>>573582119
I was talking about intersex people. If you STILL insist that it's not a genetic disorder, I dunno what to tell you. Maybe seek help? You clearly need it.
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>>573582164
I love her and even I can admit my first reaction to the was “what the fuck?”
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>>573582256
>ROOTS is how
God this theory is so fucking dumb.
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>>573581428
>Stronger Than You (Krissoul response)
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>>573581079
Even when he's dead?
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>>573582119
niggers
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>>573582236
it doesn't even deserve to be called a theory
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>>573580185
Did I miss something? I went offline to read manga this past week.
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>>573581583
How do I downloadmy finished grid on mobile?
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>>573581816
Queen can get pregnant tho'
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>>573582387
what's your ralsei theory then? if you say titan ralsei i'm gonna laugh so hard.
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>>573581583
Did it
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Fine I'll admit it
None of us are actually the roaring knight
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>>573582468
Papyrus can't be the Knight because the FRIENDS ate him to get his egg
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>>573580109
>>trans ralsei
Perfectly appropriate reading of many of Ralsei's characters moments in chapter 5, it's only controversial because chuds are triggered
>>Rudy knight
Actual nonsense you sandwiched between two real things
>>Eram matters
ERAM is the song, the mantle is the entity. The mantle/the manifestation of Kris's violent urges and repressed memories do matter and actively matter but the mantle itself will likely not be coming back no
>>573581147
Reverse of the precious post, sandwiching something with actual textual evidence and foreshadowing between two insane schizo bullshit posts. At the very least you have to admit it's suspicious that Spamton, the catalyst and thematic mirror for the weird route, is the only darkner that ever pursued kris's should for power yes?
>>573581254
>"Tree Ralsei is the most in-your-face thing"
>check the "evidence"
>it's flowery calling Ralsei a fellow "impossibility" which is incredibly broad
>it's that the Ralsei doorframe looks vaguely like a tree at first glance which it's clearly actually ralsie's hat robe and ears
>entire theory hinges on the assumption that there is an unseen tree in hometown that is so big and so old that it has roots under every building we've been to so far
>buildings that are across town from each other
>and no visible damage from overgrowth of nasty ancient tree roots creeping into the floor enough that they could become consumed by the darkness in the room
Yeah I'm thinking it's retarded
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>>573582407
The knight symbiote offsets the illness (or it's fake)
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>>573582468
The Knight is Dess after Image_Friends fucking eat her body
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>>573582263
Save bricked
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>>573581572
>It's not even like there's a specific unique tree in the entire town
The game deliberately hasn't shown you the tree because when you see it it's going to be obvious and Toby's clearly been trying to keep up the mystery. The location is obvious though.
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>>573582550
Where is Lambdadelta?
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>>573582287
i really want to draw them like this
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Susie and Ralsei are my friends in real life
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>>573582508
Ralsei is the bag of dank weed Asriel and Dess were smoking in the bunker.
No I'm not joking, yes it's less retarded than titan or tree Ralsei.
Ralsei has more weed references directly in the game than any of that other made up bullshit. Toby has gone out of his way to personally reference marijuana smoking repeatedly, it has to be for lore reasons.
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>>573582676
where is the tree in the school closet
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>>573582702
Lambda is The Annoying Dog
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>>573582702
If I have the inclination maybe I'll make a ERAMdetla edit one day.
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>>573582676
Ah yes, obvious.
In the middle of a road that leads out of the town we are not allowed to leave.
How could I not see it sooner? The stuff that makes a retarded theory sound was just out of sight entirely all this time!
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>>573582743
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>>573582559
Tasquetoilet...
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I just took the stankiest blackest shit
Good grief
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>>573582287
I dunno, that seems out of his character. I think he'd rather show off and beat Ralsei at a competition everyone can enjoy.
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>>573582550
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How does a "happy ending" for the game resolve the fact that Susie's darkner friends are just personified objects, Kris is actively betraying her and tried to lead her to her death, and Noelle loves her because only because she thinks Susie can change her
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>>573582628
Daiffehb...
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>>573582797
>where is the tree in the school closet
It doesn't need to be
>>573582875
Why is Ralsei's room blocked off by tape? Toby has made the connection between the 2 locations not me. Also why would the Tree need to be in the middle of the road? completely bad faith take, no one said that. The next screen could easily contain a tree and not have it be in the middle of the road.
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>>573581583
this didn't have asgore despite it having all the flowers. it's missing tons of lightners too...
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>>573581583
Did mine!!
>>573581985
There are a lot of characters missing but Gerson is "Old Man"
>>573582559
Don't know how anyone can hate Berdly...
>>573582550
>>573583084
Where is Asgore Krauss...
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>>573582745
based
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>>573582797
Even if you subscribe to the "well the roots!!!!" cope (nevermind that a lot of the "roots" stuff seems to refer to getting to the "core" of something and "digging deeper" and not actual plant roots) why would that the tree take a form so similar to asriel? Why would it have such a close personal connection to Kris and why would there be absolutely no foreshadowing for it? I have to accept that many people itt and the fandom in general are absolutely clueless because they think writing a story is just slapping together a collection of random story beats and going "whoa aren't you surprised by that?" and they can't identify how their theories coincide with the current foreshadowing and themes in the game because they don't even know that they're there let alone how to identify them
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Luckily the next chapter is a serious chapter so meta humor will be toned down, imagine Toby referencing trans ralsei theory " i smoke weed but i'm a boy" or " i smoke weed and i'm a girl" would be really really bad.
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>>573583195
uh oh
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>>573583056
no i agree with that guy he want to sexually harass ralsei
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>>573582702
Lambdadelta is the player and Auau is Gaster
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>>573583157
You must really dislike chapter 4
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>>573583328
Huh?
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>>573582881
with this scene in mind i'm surprised nobody's done some gay ass animatic of jax's whole "you're not supposed to miss me" spiel from the tadc finale but with ralsei
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>>573583181
>hates Toriel
My pure vision of you is tainted
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When will the "guys imagine if Toby does... something bad!!" posting stop? what is the point of making posts like that every day? you enjoy making hypotheticals in your head to get upset at?
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>>573583142
This doesn't explain why he's a tree at all.
It doesn't explain why that would be a good story beat either.
What does Ralsei being a tree do for... anything?
It's just so pointless and random and only exists to force "ROOTS IS HOW-" type posts.
Nothing about dark fountains or weird routes or shadow crystals has anything to do with and it really doesn't explain why he looks like a goat.
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>>573582384
>to the
I walked away and forgot to correct this. the reveal. oopsies
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>>573583181
He reminded me of a kid I knew who was a total dickhead but unlike him berdly ended up being kinda charming and relatable
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>>573569554
jar jar is the protagonist of episode 1
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>>573582256
>>ralsei was about to tell us what he is before susie cut him off, meaning its something ordinary and nothing crazy or incriminating to kris
Not a tree evidence
>>code to the bunker is a fucking pine tree
Not a tree evidence
>>ROOTS is how he's in every dark world
There were no roots in either of the rooms.
>>"(Ralsei's) always getting mixed up with flowers, isn't he... (that hasn't happened)" quote from toby
Not a tree evidence
>>the acorn dialogues are just all hinting at ralsei's deal
What are you smoking?
>>trees are used symbolically to hide information, Ralsei does this all the time
Not pine trees.
>>parallels flowey
Flowey was a tree?
>>words get mixed up in the darkworld, if the tree had "asriel" carved in it this could become "ralsei" in the dark world, also explains the heart design on his clothing
Literally have nothing to do with Ralsei being a tree
>clover likes trees and cutes boys. the joke is that ralsei is both.
Dess reference, have nothing to do with Tree Ralsei.
>pinecones
what?
>his shape
No
Now that absolute nonsense you wrote to pad your post is out of the way, you should clarify the following:
>>album showing the light world reflections of the fun gang shows a tree in ralsei's place
>>susie thinks of christmas trees when she sees a dummy dressed in ralsei's clothes
>>temmie said "drew ralsei" and drew a PINE TREE with his clothes for some reason
When did it happen?
>and door
Already mentioned
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Please discuss the stinky shit I took
Thank you
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>>573583390
nah, the other one
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Got around to watching the first episode of the new Ghost in the Shell and it was excellent, banging OP too.
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>>573583413
She reminds me of my own mom and I have mommy issues I'm sorry my beloved friend.............
>>573583484
I see, yeah Berdly is a really nice kid I love his depth past the surface.
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>>573581583
Took some thinking
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>>573583142
So not only does this (even more retarded) version imply that there is a single coniferous tree that we have never seen and that has never been alluded to besides the natural visual association between the green pointy hat vaguely resembling a line tree, it also must assume that the one like coniferous tree in the sea of gold trees that surround hometown is the only one with the roots deep enough to be in "the depths" even tho nothing else so far implies or foreshadows that stretch of a possibility
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>>573580659
calvin and hobbes?
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>>573583574
oh yeah? i didnt know that was even coming out. imma go see
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>>573578546
All the signs point to that being the case
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>>573583503
>Nuh-uh nuh-uh nuh-uh
K
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>>573582256
dont forget gigi dg drew this pre-ch5 (The other character is her florist oc)
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>>573583375
i didn't hate it but it's below chapters 5, 3, and 2 for me, and the knight did the inception fountain which was very cool
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>>573583142
Must simpler explanation is that Ralsei is the native denizen of "the source" (known as "the depths" in fanon and is presumably "hell" in canon).
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>>573583195
>>573583535
Getting tired of seeing this pedo's art.
We get it, you like suggestive drawings that aren't explicitly rule breaking.
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>>573583616
This anon is far too silly and whimsical. Someone put him in the femur breaker.
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>>573583440
What kind of explanation do you want? How is Ralsei being a dank bag of weed a good story beat? What does that do for anything? What kind of object or thing do you think Ralsei could sincerely be and have it fit in your mind for the story? It has to be something that's already set up because otherwise it's just random which you've already said would be bad. The backstory for Ralsei will be gone into in more depth when his true form is revealed. I don't need to invent that Toby will reveal the importance at the right time. Do I need to write you some fanfiction where it's the tree where Dess and Asriel went on their first date or something for you to take it seriously?
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>>573583735
So do I! Yay!
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>>573583735
you forgot to take your meds this morning, anon
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>>573583651
peakvin and basedbes mentioned
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>>573583684
Ralsei held a watering can in fan art?
Clearly this means Ralsei is... THE LAKE AT THE EDGE OF TOWN!?!?!?!
I'm dubbing it, Lake Theory and will now make a five hour youtube video explaining why I am right.
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>>573583735
Wait...wat?
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Is it true what they say about Noelle and the 18-21 male black cats + female Mew Mew and futa Maddie?
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>>573583440
>>573583808
I don't think it should ever be revealed what kind of object Ralsei is because it doesn't matter.
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>>573583753
*runs away, sprinkling fairy dust everywhere*
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>>573582256
I guess I believe this now. It would explain why he knows so much. We've been shown that plants in the dark world have an idealized form in the dark world, that plants hear in the light world and can take that information with them into the dark world, that Asgore is not sure if Ralsei is even a monster, and most crucially that the fun gang are NOT the heroes because the knight appeared earlier than them
Him being a lighter makes sense.
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>>573583909
i posted it to help his theory because i like theory posts. what's your problem
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>>573583929
Yes... yes, it's all true. Even THAT part, which I know must sound very unbelievable, that part is all true as well
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I personally think It's been obvious Ralsei is a tree since Chapter 5's release.
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Once I stop being too lazy to write my explanation for how meteor theory is actually thematically coherent with the rest of the game and definitely not insane, everyone will agree with me and we'll never have to argue again
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Why does Treesei make people so angy?
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when are we getting the FUCKING patience FUCKING mode
purple soul mode is the last FUCKING soul mode people give a fuck about
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>>573583317
>why would that the tree take a form so similar to asriel?
Because Asriel didn't go to college as is buried under the tree... And Kris just doesn't know >:^)
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>>573581583
changed a few because they were tough to fill in
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>>573583929
this is mew mew's backstory.
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>>573584148
because it's lame
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Do you think Temmie's egg was THE egg?
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>>573584167
have patience, anon
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>>573583624
That image is only one possible variation I made to quickly show a premise. I'm not married to that particular idea to try and show one way it could be possible, I don't know what Toby's full explanation for the mechanics will be because i'm not a soothsayer. I just know that Ralsei is a fucking tree.
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>>573583684
Wow, clearly this isn't related to Ralsei being the main focus of the flower chapter and developing an important bond with one of the flowers that motivates his character development. It can only be about him being a tree, which is not a flower. I was blind but now I see.
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>>573584148
i think it's neat and could work but it is a little lame. it's gonna be cooler to me if he's a titan
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>>573584253
i see no issue then, ralsei is extremely lame
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>>573583735
Is he seriously a pedo? I just thought they were cute interactions
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>>573581583
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>>573584253
This, I only want to see good theories and headcanons.
If it's going to be some made up nonsense based on random minute details you might as well be cool or remotely interesting about it.
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>>573584383
he draws cub stuff and i guess it is that sort of underage art that makes you think he wants to diddle kids and not just cute, petite characters
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>>573584253
Explanations always are lame. That's why Lynch never explained shit. Explanations make the extraordinary ordinary. I don't see that as being an argument against there being a lame explanation though.
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>>573583735
>pedo
oh he attacked a real live person, he has actual photos of abused kids on his computer? surely that's what you mean, right? cuz I mean you called him a pedo
and pedos are people attracted to actual human children
so...
that's what he is, right? you're not just diluting an actionable word used to protect real people from real harm by applying it to someone who draws cartoons that don't look or act like children, right?
right, anon?
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>>573583710
>known as "the depths" in fanon and is presumably "hell" in canon
They're interchangeable going by the ARG emails and Jevil's "hell's roar bubbles from the depths" line. Light = heaven = fire and darkness = hell = water so hell is the watery depths.
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>>573584383
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Floofitura/1
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>>573584137
Can you do that soon in a pretty Rentry link like the Mettaknight theory? I'd love to read it.
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>>573575303
wait a minute isnt this just normal NPC
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TRVTHNVKE INCOMING:
The reason Ralsei looks like Asriel is because Asriel is BURIED underneath the tree and is DEAD >:^)
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>>573584548
I don't want to open that, this spergout reaction is all I need to know >>573584513
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>>573584548
Ok so is he a pedophile or does he just draw cub porn?
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>>573584539
Horseshoe/ring theory: heaven and hell is the same place.
Source: Titans have angelic features
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>>573583616
based taste but i'm curious about tenna (i had him in the same slot) and gerson
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>>573584513
Actual .pdf hands typed this post.
Party van, please pick up this specific anon quickly.
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I just see a lot of complaining that Tree Ralsei would be lame but no suggestions of anything plausible that would be cool. It seems like the concept of Ralsei being any object would be lame to you guys which is weird because it's what the entire game is based around. Is Lancer lame because he's a playing card? Is Queen lame because she's a laptop or Tenna lame because he's a TV? I just don't get this complaint.
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LOLICON SPOTTED. INITIATING BEAT AND RAPE SEQUENCE OMEGA DASH TWO TWO THREE GAMMA.
PREPARE .
YOUR .
PENIS .
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>>573582256
>>"(Ralsei's) always getting mixed up with flowers, isn't he... (that hasn't happened)" quote from toby
Anon we JUST got the chapter where this happens he got "mixed up" (involved with) the flowers. How does one "mix up" (mistake) a tree for a flower?
>>the acorn dialogues are just all hinting at ralsei's deal
Explain how because I have no idea what you mean. When does ralsei mention acorns? When does the acorn dialogue come back to Ralsei in any way?
>>his shape and door
The door is Ralsei shaped, coniferous trees generally don't have big circular branches that look like ears beneath the cone
>>words get mixed up in the darkworld, if the tree had "asriel" carved in it this could become "ralsei" in the dark world
Insane reach
>>the heart design on his clothing
Yeah I can't imagine any other reason why Ralsei, who looks like the Dreemurrs except for the red horns like kris's headband, who Kris gets defensive over saying actually looks different from asriel, who tries to be a well behaved boy despite underlying rage and fear, and who views himself as a tool for Kris to use before himself would have a black right-side-up heart on his chest. Must be some imaginary tree you came up with
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>573583619
vguepost KING
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bully Kris
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>>573584548
>he thinks this makes someone a pedo
how fucking online are you
im saying this as someone with actual history of being abused as a kid, you can and should not conflate these two
I don't care how much your feelings hurt over how icky someone's cartoons are, you use pedo to describe people who inflict irreversible harm on living breathing human beings during childhood, you use it to describe people who go after actual children
someone into this stupid noodle cartoon's paws or fictional ass is not interested in attacking a child, are you so sheltered you don't see a difference?
it's a fucking cartoon, you weirdo
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there are no child molesters on /utg/
there are animal fuckers however
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>>573583735
King post
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>>573584848
.pdf cope post
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>>573584767
honestly, there's nothing toby can do with ralsie that will make me think he's cool. he could kill everyone with anime fire and i'd just be like, okay then
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>>573584918
And plant fuckers
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>>573584713
what's the name of the child he hurt? oh, nobody was hurt, he just drew a cartoon? what a retard
I bet you're fine with transing kids, too
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>>573584669
he looks like asriel because toby has a gay incest kink but lacks the bravery to be direct about it
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>amerifat hours
>the pdf gang arrives
who could have predicted this
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>>573584961
muh skibidi slang
you want to fuck goats
by the same logic you're using, anyone who plays GTA is a murderer
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>>573584843
Dess....
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>>573584696
This is also true, I think of it like a mobius strip. Everything from light to dark is all one continuous surface even if it seems like it should have two sides.
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>>573584985
Hey retard, debating antis is pointless. Being called a pedo over fiction is an inherently absurd statement so the answer to be more absurd.
Uuuuuuuuuuu aqunny ToT
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>pdf
kill zoomers
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Any ERAM/Ralsei connection truthers? Both use fire magic and Ralsei was playing a game while Kris was fighting ERAM
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>>573584880
>>573585070
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>>573584705
>Tenna
I think I was initially contrarian about Ch3 because of how much I loved Ch2, but I came around on Tenna and the chapter as a whole big time pretty soon.
>Gerson
He's not a bad character, but I was hoping there'd be a little more to him beyond the "old mentor" thing, like perhaps a deeper exploration of his feelings regarding his son or some more info on differences between Lightners and their Dark copies.
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>>573584148
Because illiterate mongoloids imagine a surface level connection based on visuals and don't actually analyze the text or try to find foreshadowing or themes relating to that idea. They will ignore the actual foreshadowing and themes and scream at you bring them up tho
>>573584351
>"I'm not married to the idea"
>"But I know Ralsei is a tree"
You imagined this based off a glancing thought from a single image and now you're trying to make up evidence for why it's true retroactively because you either actually analyzed the narrative and realized there is no evidence for it or you just don't care what the story is actually saying
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Sometimes I forget a significant portion of this general's posters are legitimately teenagers
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Uh oh guys, I played Undertale genocide route... If looking at Ralsei butt makes me a pedophile, I guess I'm a murderer for my genocides... They're real people... Oh no I want to fuck spiders for real...
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>20 line long theory autism posts
>play-pretend debates using the term ".pdf"
great day to be /utg/tarded
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>>573584570
not him and not related but here are some rentrys from another theoryfag that have been posted here pre-ch5

https://rentry.org/elementalpairs
https://rentry.org/dranimalmotifs
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why don't lolicons ever do anything about the predators in their own community if they're so concerned with being mixed up with them
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>>573585332
See how well that excuse works when you explain the contents of your computer to a judge.
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>>573585278
cool
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>>573584985
"pedophilia" describes an attraction, not an action, ESL
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>>573585265
>ERAM too is an acronym, it stands for Mr. RAlsEi
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>>573581583
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>>573585229
i think for a lot of people pedo just means "person I have a right to make fun of," the same way people used to tag on furries and now rag on trannies
that's where it stops and starts
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>>573585313
What is the story saying about Ralsei then? Please someone give me a single explanation for how it makes sense then since you have such brilliant insight into it. What is Ralsei?
Let me guess you don't actually have one right.
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/utg/ - Undertale/Deltarune General
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>>573585469
Not my problem.
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Only 4 pages left until the clean slate! Stay determined!
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>>573585265
I'll say it a million times if I have to but the song is ERAM, the character IS the Shadow Mantle or some specter animating it. But yes I do think the mantle holder and Ralsei are relaxed, not in the "Ralsei is doing the boss fight" sense, but in the "Ralsei represents the person kris wishes to be, mantle represents who they regret having been" sense
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>>573585518
of course you would know that distinction
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>>573585585
It's "people who belong in jail" actually.
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You guys discuss and argue for hours about dumb off-topic shit you should have thought deeply about 10 years ago not as a grown adult, were all of you born yesterday? why do you repeat the same topics every day? can't we just talk about Deltarune instead of everyone going crazy over the SAME stuff they argued about yesterday? and the day before? and the day before the day before? do you NOT GET TIRED?
Every single day It's
>"I hate trans people/I love trans people"
>"I hate black people/I love black people"
>"Lolishota is pedophilic/Lolishota is not pedophilic"
>"Furries are zoophiles/Furries are not zoophiles"
>"Nonbinary people don't exist/Nonbinary people do exist"
And for WHAT PURPOSE? every single day? why do you all keep doing it? every day? It's the same comments word for word, It's the same people (I assume), over and over and over, why? It's not related to Deltarune, It's not a theory, It's off-topic morals talk, It's your own personal beliefs, It's not DELTARUNE, what satisfaction do you get from arguing about the same topics with people that won't change their minds? why can't you just hide the posts and stop shitting up the thread?
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>>573585469
you can't nooootice things like that. that's bigoted against epehpehbobpeh hahaha lol kid touchers
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>>573585585
trannies are so pathetic
you're being a pedo because you're sexually attracted to a child character. and i'll admit i don't think lolicons are automatically pedos but some of the shit shared here is basically just a kid's body but with a cartoon head
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>>573585518
do you think Ralsei looks or acts like a human child, anon
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>>573585265
Both are demons from hell (depthners from The Depths).
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>>573585719
>Over and over
Woah... It's like the threads revolving...
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did anyone draw that one porn meme about the black guys and the white girl with multiple FRIENDs+spamton yet
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>>573585719
They all forget they had the arguments the next day. They don't learn. Repeat.
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>>573585719
people like to fight and it's always gonna be that way. we're a social species, being social doesn't always mean stuff is cheery
you sound underage
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>>573585623
>>573585719
!!!
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>>573585739
nta. he doesn't, but the cub artist does draw him like a kid (and it's not a matter of it being stylized, either, as his adult characters are visibly different) so moot point
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>>573585725
it's also funny how they pretend trannies as a whole are against lolicon when there's a major overlap in their communities
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Chapter 6 is Napsta's turn. It's time for Dapsta Neo.
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>>573585719
It's because this chapter didn't have enough lorestimmies for us schizos to get obssesed over
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>>573585620
>then since you have such brilliant insight into it
Belittling someone like this as a reaction to criticism or being told you're wrong is classic narcissistic behavior btw, seek help
>Let me guess you don't actually have one right.
Because we don't actually know yet? Like what are you getting at here? You can comb through the whole game but the only actual "evidence" that Ralsei is a tree specifically is a single image of Ralsei's silhouette that kinda looks like a tree. All of the other foreshadowing around what Ralsei is implied he's something deeply related and important to Kris
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>>573585865
sa this is also a recurring general thread. you reach a point where you've talked about everything you want to talk about and maybe you'll sometimes stray into off topic discussion. that happens in literally every single thread on this board, in every single general all over 4chan
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>>573585974
blook had their chance when undyne vanished. they are a... A COWARD
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>>573585265
I think Eram and Ralsei are both representative of Kris in someway. Both are very interested and Kris, and encourage Kris in the game in opposite ways. Ralsei pro peace and normal route, Eram pro violence and weird route.

My schizo theory with no evidence? Ralsei being Kris want of being a monster vs Eram's reality of Kris being a human.
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>>573585719
these threads are only good when no one likes deltarune except a handful of deranged asocial freaks
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>>573585852
This meme?
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>>573581583
Tasque Manager is only there because she is making my goddam cat fights harder
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>>573583317
Ralsei can choose his form as a plant Darkner with undefined form, with the limitation that he had to be male for both the prophecy and as it’s his gender. Asriel is the only male Dreemurr other than Asgore and someone Kris unambiguously had a good relationship with and misses. Susie has a good relationship with Toriel, but Toriel is female so Asriel’s form is the next closest thing. In this way, Ralsei’s form is to placate both Kris and Susie and make him appear more familiar and friendly than, say, if he’d stayed as the hooded prince of the prophecy.

If he’s the root network beneath hometown, it’d mean he manipulated his form to be friendly to Kris and Susie just like Flowery did with Asgore (note how Flowery looks suspiciously like a more handsome version of Rudy’s build and even has some of Rudy’s lingo). Asriel is the one overlap between male characters, characters Kris likes, and characters Susie won’t bully to death.
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>>573586036
I gave up on debating that idiot like four or five of their posts ago.
Especially as soon as they pulled the "What's YOUR theory then" card like it's our problem to present a less retarded theory for him to believe in.
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Do you guys remember the idiots/autists who made a android port of Deltarune and their excuse was they thought because (chp 1+2) was free, it was public domain?
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>>573586184
yepppp
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>Ralsei is a titan
cool, he turns into monster point chopper from one piece

>Ralsei is a tree
cool, he is exdeath
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Ralsei is the guardian angel of Kris.
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>>573586212
>schizokek
>noelle hater
....... anon......
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>>573586036
>Psychoanalyzing someone based on a 4chan post
Seek help.
So you have no explanation then? but I thought you were saying that what Ralsei is has to tie in deeply to these themes you say exist that precludes a tree but you can't verbalize anything that would actually fit for you. You say he can't be a tree because it hasn't been shown to us but the same is true for any answer for what Ralsei is. There is nothing in game we've been shown that could be Ralsei. Saying we haven't been shown the tree so Ralsei can't be a Tree applies to literally any explanation for Ralsei.
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>>573586036
you type like a tranny
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>>573585719
Doctor Bliss was the real name of a real human being and if you're above a certain threshold of self-awareness then what you'll realize is that nearly every single person you meet thinks exactly like him
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>>573586260
What about Ralsei is a mushroom, dirt, moth, DEVICE, prophecy, darkness?
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>>573586212
>mewtroon
vomits
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>>573584134
first time in my life ive seen anyone use one of these
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my pet schizotheory is that ralsei is a tutorial program built by notorious W.D. that gained sentience, and that deltarune's timeline got paused when undertale gaster fell into it
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>>573584781
Someone needs to built an Aqua rape-bot in real life. I would let it rape me to death
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>>573586389
You're completely retarded bro.
I was looking for confirmation that the theory sucks and you have more than proven your point.
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>>573586525
i've also thought this but without the undertale connection
and i also only thought it because i think he'd be cute in an edgy black outfit
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>>573586510
You probably don't watch many artists draw in person.
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>>573586639
>>573586639
>>573586639
Hop on
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>>573586538
Belittling someone like this as a reaction to criticism or being told you're wrong is classic narcissistic behavior btw
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>>573586603
he was crafted to look like a friendly black blob, who decided to take the appearance of someone kris cherished and trusted
i would like to see black robe hatsei art now
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>>573585332
other way around. seeing characters with underage qualities in porn doesnt make you a pedophile, pedophiles look at porn of characters with underage qualities because it arouses them
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>>573586818
i want to see black robe hatsei art and art of him being snuggle piled (not like the catty image) by FRIENDs...
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>>573585332
it means you're a guro or ryona fag, but not a murderer
just like you can be a pedo but not a molester
ESL
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>>573585265
I don't think the Mantle holder is Ralsei himself, but I think they're another Prince since the Prince using fire magic is consistent in both Ralsei's version of the prophecy and the chapter 4 prophecy panels.
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>>573573854
No it doesn't, because it doesn't match up to the weird route anymore. We thought it did because we didn't have chapter 5 yet



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