Queens of Deadlock Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573534483
first for Rem hole
So why is drifter allowed to be so op
why does lash get to deal so much fucking damage so early he gets 2 purple items and half m health is gone in one stomp how the fuck is this fair?
>>573649795same argument goes for holliday and a bunch of other heroes, one of them being wraith of all heroes, the super scaler
>>573649895yea but at least i you have a better chance of dodging barrels and cards. stomp and flog is pretty much guaranteed damage
>>573623936shiv has literally never been good* always one of the lowest winrate heroes>b-b-but he's hardno he's not, he literally cant do anything unless he's already winningtrash hero
Does shooting the orbs give more souls or is it a way to secure souls?
>>573650432yes
>>573650512to both question?
>>573650432no, yes
>Yamato is canonically a bro-conShe has all the ingredients to being a fan favourite except her dogshit placeholder model
>>573651284>wincest sister highkey obsessed with her long lost lil brotoo fvcking based, Valve could neverit'd be kino if you could play him as a hero too and uhhhhh... LARP in lane
>>573650046flog is basically impossible to dodge yes but his stomp is the most telegraphed move in the game just double jump away
>>573652553especially if he does the stupid ass thing of going back onto a rly high perch to maximize damage every time
>>573652553.....then he just brings you back to the ground with the stomp what?
>>573648994>find sauce on e621>pussy
Delete pocket from the fucking game
>>573649795This is a fucking lie. I buy 2 purple items on Lash and go from a single pixel to about 3 pixels of your health bar
>>573653037bro that face is feminine af what did u expect
>>573653026I'm assuming that would happen if you double jumped forwards instead of backwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPk1pCdAI4
>>573655026reddit title
>>573651284they're calling it the most disappointing manga of all time
>>573655026not watching zoomers bro sorry
deadlock is actually doing really fucking poorlymost of the current playercount is being upheld by botsthe gen is dyingthe playercount peaks are still getting lowerfix your shit game yoshi please
me when i lie
me when I [TRUE]
>>573653037yeah I know, cowards dont appreciate shota.at least I can lie to myself and cope that it's shote hole
Holliday is a cursed character for me holy fuckI one trick and I consistently win, I get ONE (1) singular game as Holliday and get a Silver in my lane who REFUSES to follow up, and then Vindicta gets 3 fucking kills and starts steamrolling (without going back once) and keeps killing Silver and Me over and over and over again.When we CAN kill Vindicta you wanna know where Silver is? In the fucking base and she never pinged she was going back (she also had full HP btw).I NEVER saw her pop her ultimate once, ONE singular time which was amazing.fuck holliday
How the fuck do you counter celeste every fucking game she just floats around doing 10 billion damage
GET ME OUT OF SEEKER HOLY FUCKING NIGGER SHIT GET ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!ANOTHER FUCKING SHITTY NIGGER GAME THAT LASTED AN HOUR BECAUSE THEY WONT PUSH THE ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!THEY"RE ALL DEAD AND SHRINES ARE GONE!??!?!?!?!BETTER SLOWLY PUSH ALL THE LANES TO GIVE THEM TIME TO RESPAWN!!!!!WE'RE NOT GOING MIDBOSS WHEN THEY"RE ALL DEAD AND PATRON IS WEAK?!?!?!?HUH??????WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE SHOULD JUST PUSH ONE FUCKING LANE AND END THE FUCKING GAME AT 30 MINUTES?!?!?!WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO RIFT AT MAX BOON LEVEL??!?END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!END THE FUCKING GAME!!!!!MY FUCKING THROAT HURTS FROM SCREAMING AT MY MONITOR!!!!!!UNBAN ME FROM COMMS YOU NIGGER GAME !!!!!!!!!STACKED LOBBIES SHOULDNT HAVE THAT MUCH POWER BECAUSE VALVE IS TOO FUCKING CHEAP TO HIRE MODERATORS!!!!!FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!!!!!
>>573655116or you could learn a thing or two
> win a game forced 50 ensures i lose 2> enemy team has dipshit that goes 0-11, still wins because drifter is bullshit>shiv on my team feeds, shiv on eney team is a master smurf on his 4th alt account
>>573657091settle down ok?
>pick wraith>contribute fucking nothing other than slaughtering walkers after I'm farmed>60% wr pushing oracleMobas are a very strange genre
>>573657564It's so fucking infuriating that comms restriction bans me from both voice AND text chat.I could've avoided ALL of this if I was allowed to convey "PUSH!"The game could've been over so much fucking sooner.These are my "wins".Always extremely long because my teamates want to be EXTRA SAFE not knowing they're giving our opponents breathing room!I actually gave myself a headache.I want to put a toothpick under Yoshi's toenail and drop a brick on it.Fucking pondscum retards on my team ALWAYS!
"let's see what those insides look like", drifter said as he sliced open rem's stomach
>>573657091Anon, it genuinely HONEST to god does not get any better.The only difference is you can use your rank to tell redditors their opinion on the game is retarded and is killing it.In fact it gets terrible because the game becomes "whoever has the lowest ping in your lane decides who gets to have fun with denials".I got to Ascen 4 before I started playing off characters and trying to learn others because the game was so unfun at higher ranks because certain systems like Rift and Urn suck ass because people know how to "game" them.I'm now Alchemist and having fun again because I can just relax and play the god damn game.not having casual mode is a mistake dude, I don't care about being the best I just want to drink a beer and play Ivy...
I just stopped playing
>>573657821>It's so fucking infuriating that comms restriction bans me from both voice AND text chat.Maybe you should be less of a raging retard while in the girlfriend rank and this wouldn't be an issue.
>>573657821you better be a good goy nowonce you are off comms ban one little "retard" will grant you another 3 dayalso do yourself a favour and dont play this game solo
>>573658112see >>573267943
this game needing 3 characters to even play is dumbwhat the FUCK is the harm in me 1 tricking?Now I need to have a build for 2 other characters I suck dick with, and if I roll those other 2 i'm just fucked (but i dont wanna pick anyone else because they're the 2 that I atleast have SOME fun with.).But my main is 100% fun all the time even when im losing.Then of course, some retard on the enemy team gets my main, builds them like shit and my team feeds and we lose even though i've done everything to COUNTER them and can shit on them specifically.
>>573658272>what the FUCK is the harm in me 1 tricking?It would mean the programmers would need to be bothered to code in better matchmaking.That requires effort which we all know is beyond nu-valve
Grim
>>573658572Metro?
>>573658136None of my friends play it and I've come to realize that they're the smart ones
>>573658435I play one of the worst characters in the game in Archon. It's fun, they're fun and I have hand crafted a build that nobody else has made where mid game I become a nuke and stay a nuke.It's great and fun and even when draft gets added theres a 0% chance they even get banned which is amazing.Too bad Yoshit operates on the "B-B-BUT WHAT IF THEY GET BANNED AND UR STUCK PLAYING SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW IN ETERNUS"then I dont care yoshi, I really REALLY dont fucking care because you decided to not have a casual mode and force ranked.
>Be me>Have great spirit burst dmg>Have a counterspell for an ability>Have one of the best get out of jail free cards in the game>Have a great util ult>Get of jail free card gets reworked into being a auto aim abrams charge because it was "too good">Be apollo>pic unrelated
>cant play rivals because all my keybinds are for deadlock>cant play deadlock because matchmaking its litearly dogshit and 80% of games are predecided due to feeders
>>573658250I've had entire enemy teams raging at me and reporting me and nothing has ever happened so I'm pretty sure more happened than that even if I was dumb enough to not immediately question the notion that a single enemy team reporting you can get you comms banned and somehow isn't being abused 24/7 with people yelling at Valve for being so retarded to make that a possibility for anybody that isn't already flagged as an annoying faggot. Your posts alone makes it incredibly clear you're a sperg so I don't know who you're trying to fool other than yourself.
>Have decent wait times>Win all but one game>Puts me in Seeker>Now I have picrel wait timeInteresting system, Valve.
>>573659106>cant play rivals because all my keybinds are for deadlockMassive skill issue. Just play more and your brain will learn, retard.
>>573659121i think you care about rank too much bro, just say your Eternus like the rest of us and photoshop a couple images to keep handy.we all do it.
>>573658787free apollo let me play the game
I had to wait 4 mins for a solo queue game in archon. On a Friday night. Is this game okay? I won btw.
>>573659683rivals new season came out today so some people probably are trying that out
>>573659551>i think you care about rank too much brolmao, how is that what you got from that? Are you just saying random shit now because you got called out for being a sperg and don't know what to do but ragebait?
>>573659751>GET ME OUT OF SEEKER HOLY FUCKING NIGGER SHIT GET ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
>>573660009You replied to the wrong dude, homie.
>>573659741That explains the horrible teammates and long queue times.
>>573655026hilarious that people pay money for this advice.
>>573657585that's what being a carry playing objectives does for you, yeah
>>573660281What is wrong with it? t. Initiate trying to learn, aren't pros a good resource to learn from?
>make new acc>win 9 out of 11 (one was my faggot friend picking vindicta for his first time and ragequitting)>place phantom 1>win a game as MVP and rape lobby>move one numberyea no shit smurfs run this dogshit game. It WANTS you to grind
>lose match with bad score and postgame it says the lobby is lower than my average rank>instantly lose a rank (what used to take 6 games)>win 2 matches with good scores where the average rank is above my rank>don't rank upare they just trying to squeeze everyone down in ranks? like you'd have to have an 80% winrate to climb right nowit has never been this bad before
>>57366152590% of the "pros" were hard carried and ONLY play with friends to stay in their rank bro.plus being a "pro" in a game in beta is retarded
>>573661628Basically if the game puts you in a lower rank lobby then your own you need 2-3 games to rank up.(but also need 1 loss to rank down 2-3 times which is gay as fuck).For me I was in Oracle getting Emissary games and ranking up was a struggle. Every fucking game would give me 25% MMR, but would tank me 2 ranks per loss.
I miss oracle.
>>573661702So eido's landing advice here is bad because of your made up beliefs?
>>573661805i was phantom 3 last week and now I'm oracle 2 with the exact same winrateshit's gay I just want to chill, not every game be fucking life or death if i lose despair trench spiral down the toiletthere used to be a buffer where i could suck for like 3 games and i wouldn't lose that much rankis it because the ranks are based on total players in the pool and there's way less right now? so it's more volatile?
Wheres my casual queue? No street brawl isn't casual queue. I want the actual fucking video game.I'm not playing your niggerfaggot comp mode, it brings out the brown in people.
>>573662268https://www.teamfortress.com/
>>573662268Won't happen even compy players using mic don't tap the "more competitive" setting because they want faster queues
Im not even joking this game would be 100x better if Russians didn't play it if this game ever comes out and there's an actual review of it in the cons section there should just be "Russians" I would pay for a Prime tier system that would block Russians from my games
Name a worse feeling than having a huge winstreak, and getting queue anxiety because of itI just know the 0/20 russian abrams is patiently waiting to queue before i press queue myself
>>573662771let me tell you a secretyou can play a streetbrawl or two to get your state mandated lobotomites
Am I supposed to shoot all these people or something?
So if I win one more game I get promoted out of Seeker?
>>573662771Losing one game and seeing a Russian Haze that's right you're in the losers queue prepare for 5 losses in a row
>>573661628ranks are % based - the more people quit, the more your rank will drop
>>573662771thats by design though. the more you winstreak the harder lobbies and worse teammates it gives youits part of their smurf detection shit
>>573661525i watched the video and the advice was pretty much tailored to that one match they played.all they did was watch them play and say "this is bad" and maybe tell them what to do instead.you might learn a thing or two but you're not taught how to think. the people that pay for these things are just going to run into another issue with their gameplay and have to pay again in an infinite loop.watching high ranked players and gleaning knowledge from how they play will accelerate your growth more than actual direct lessons because they're bad at putting into words what they're doing.
>>573657585that's why carry sucks, your job is to hit boss and if not possible, buildings. That's it. Only in high ranks do you require using your brain to relieve pressure to make those two things happen. Phantom is about where macro actually matters so get ready for your ass to be pounded if youre afk farming to win
you ever get raped by the enemy team so hard that you barely win and somehow get MVP and cuck the enemies who should have gotten MVP?
>>573662771When I used to play dota 2 I'd start winning a ton of games then realize I was on like a 15 winstreak or something and never play that hero again cause I'd be mad as fuck if there was a peruvian that griefed the game to end it. I think I have like 20 heroes with a 10+ game winstreak currently but I quit because I realized over half the games had asshole peruvians ruining them. Deadlock will have that too if they dont region lock, thankfully it seems to be doing that and restricting people by ping not allowing them to choose servers
>>573664858oh look a lash and paige duo that probably rage quit for some benign reason and cost everyone the game when do we get solo only? Duos+ are actual wastes of skin
im so tired of mirages in every game man
I dont understand why fury trance is the least bought item in the game.you literally just turn off spirit heroes when you press the active, get huge fire rate, movespeed and also bullet lifestealEVERY m1gger should buy this
>>573665846kills your movement is why>oh but you can just do this...its just not fun anon, the only fun in this game is movement and aim
>>573665247the devs will NEVER realize how fucking dumb his -35% damage debuff is.they're going to keep nerfing him until he does actual 0 damage and still keep the debuff.
>>573665846Most m1s either want to be pressing abilities so they don't want to be silenced or do significant hybrid damage so the bullet lifesteal is less meaningful.
Graves is OP so the game is not funMcG is OP so the game is not fun
>>573666148tales from iniitiate
>>573666148graves is fine, shoot her skulls and walk awaymcqueer is just cancer because of her wall which should not exist, all it does it cuck low skilled players who havent learned basic movement and is useless at higher ranks barring some unique situations and midboss
>>573655026what advice could he possibly give, trick jumps to evade people who can't aim?
>sent to low prio queue for leaving gamesmaybe the matchmaker shouldnt be so goddamn bad that my last 10 games have been against full smurf comps who get a 60k soul lead at minute 20, if the matchmaking patch doesnt fix this im calling yoshi a nigger in the discord
Why does half of the m1gger cast have a free escape ability?>wraith teleport>nigfernus dash>mina bats>haze dagger>venator shotgun>ivy flight>holliday pads>talon jump>mirage tornado>pocket cloak>vin flight>vyper slide>billy ramWarden, Victor, Drifter, Graves, Silver, Geist, Paradox, Mcginnis and Seven are the only honest m1ggers in the game
>>573658787>shiv using his ult as a free escape:)>apollo using his ult as a free escape:(, wtf double the cast time and half the distance now!
>>573649586Because streamers haven't complained about him, and the meme that if you have good le moobment you can basically teleport from one side of the map to the other.
>>573655026>eskayi blame sajam and deathy for normalizing this mutant
>>573661576>grind>when the smurfs just keep making accounts until they luck out with placement matches to get into eternus>hehe im an eternus pro now>makes another acc instantly to smurf arcanist games
>>573667406ummmmm maybe they're getting data sweaty? its for their smurf detection systems :)alpha free game btw no bitching
>this general is such skillets "m1nigger" is a common term because people can't aimgo back to dota you fucking losers, its even made by the game jeet
>>573668043way to our yourself as a newfig
>>573668073>dont insult my aim or you're.... new to a dead game's general on 4channel.orgokay
>>573667920my complaints are valid feedback, whats valid about the smurfs in my game going 30-0 and playing like jerome is gonna rape and kill them if they dont win this game with a 100k soul lead minimum?
Call me schizo but im pretty sure more than half of the playerbase are smurfs and the rank system is completely destroyed because of this everytime someone is dominating the lobby check their profile of course its a level 2 with one game deadlock at 5.2 hours played I dont know how it is at high ranks but from Seeker to Ritualist its almost all smurfs
>unpaid beta testers>all we've figured out so far is valve cannot balance and the internet is filled with cheating russians and baltic cocksuckersthanks so much!
>>573668441Ukraine should go after their internet infrastructure after the refineries imagine how glorious it would be if Russians couldnt access the internet just for a couple of weeks...
>>573668607ukrainians are just as bad as russians they're the same thing
>6,000,000 shitlow ranks that need 30 wins in a row to rank up once>4 ranks that matter are filled with tons of squatters who play 1 game a week to keep their placement before going to smurfholy shit just bring back unranked so I can make meme builds without further descending into smurf hell
>>573649795because he needs to completely remove himself from the lane for like, a wave to set it up and it only works if you don't see him coming or dodge him
you think you're mad now?just wait until the "ranked update" that's supposed to be coming in a week or so
>>573668651ukrainians dont exist anymore, they're all dead so really the snow niggers are the problemthat said what we really need is the great firewall of india
>>573667463>silver>no escape abilityyour 2 sir?
Love a loss streak from oracle to emmisary
>>573652370>my brother died and i'm sad>oh my goon just like my heckin' pornerinos
>>573669053im making forum posts about it right now about how its not fair that this offensive skill is being used defensively and should only be able to target players, same with billys 2
>>573669053doesn't it have less the range of a single normal dash
>>573669163if shiv ult gets punished with a longer CD for missing they should actually do it for these abilities too.
if billy rising ram's into a wall without hitting anyone then it should stun him
>>573667463>haze dagger>venator shotgunby definition not free, both are primarily for setup/initiation. fuck, smoke bomb and snap trap respectively make more sense (still wrong)>ivy flightliterally her ult>holliday padsyou can use them>billy ramhe's literally punished for using it as an escape wdym>vin flight>vyper slide>talon jumptheir characters are built around thesesilverkeks never fail to disappoint
>the first rift is basically the most important one and basically gurantees a walker>my team doesnt come to secure it even after I call it out early, ping the map, draw a circle and yell for help when its active>if they do show up its one by one into the grinder after I died and the rift is lost
>>573662268just mute the lobby and ignore your rank
>avoid hero>is in all my gamesso thats just a cosmetic feature just like the report button
>>573669464no rifts are important
SENDING BEETLES
>>573669464yeah this is why trying to watch pros and imitate their macro is a trap. in low elo you have to play with your team, even if they're making shit decisions. because even if they initiate a 4v6 you joining them makes it a 5v6 and maybe you could win - if you dont join them at all theres a higher chance they all die which leads to you losing anywaysif your team doesnt want to do rift i would try to push a walker on another lane since the enemy may have 3+ people on rift already
>>573664858How the fuck did your team even win?
>>573670787you can clearly see 3 people dc'd
Call me schizo but im pretty sure more than half of the playerbase are cheaters using mods and actual cheats for an unfair advantage in a closed alpha game
>>573671124mods are cheats
>>573671237Skin mods I dont agree.UI mods, melee sound effect mods, absolutely.
>>573655026Out of any of the pros Eido is the last one i'd be listening to for advice. He plays like a retard and is hard carried by having great movement and aim. He's barely being able to keep up in night shift. Deathy is going to have a lot more insightful things to say about the game despite being a worse player, Eido is just dumb
rage queueing at 4am
>>573659551ok but im actually e6 so kneel for daddy, anon
>Laning with a Drifter, enemy team has Apollo Rem, know can't do shit against them>Drifter keeps being extremely agressive, losing all trades, dies twice early and types "dude wake up" in chat>Abandon lane as soon as i can, go on a killing spree ganking around the map>Drifter continues to feed and bitch in chat>Win the gameThe best feeling in this game is winning against your team
>>573672001apollo is weak in lane right now you can beat them if you can get through the super creeps
>silenced>movement abilities disabled
Apollo needs to be straight up reworked none of his kit flows together at all and he's just straight ass for like 2 months 46% winrate in phantom on a braindead spirit nuker.... he cant even win lane!
>headhunter weakening headshot healing booster spirit resi wraith>32 minute game>19k damage>speaking spanishi was right to afk
>>573673083>apollo>spirithere we go again
I hate mcguinnes turrets so fucking much
>sneedbop in lane>play extremely passive and just do boxes/camps>he gets 0 stacks and does nothing for the rest of the gameits that easy
>>573673940>he goes gun and rapes you anyway
>>573673940bebop is one of the only characters that can punish passive play because he can take you away from the guardianyou have to stand near the creeps to secure the souls and he can get you as you do
>>573675323nah i just wait for the creeps to walk up to my guardian because no one freezes waves in my elo
>>573675423it's like you just ignored what I said entirely. He hooks you away from your guardian
>>573675489he hooks you to the area in front of your guardian if you're playing passive and with reactive barrier you can just walk back to it
>>573675694why are you this scared of a D tier hero?
>>573675423>>573675694Faggot seeker.
>>573675819to maximize my chances of winning
>>573675694nta but you would literally have to be as far back as your walker for that to be the closest he could pull you with a t2 hookthe more likely case is you're getting ripped to the bridge and punted an extra 10m away while both enemy laners give you the dual pitbull/unattended toddler routine
>>573675942a bebop on the enemy team is already a free win for you by default as the hero does nothing if he misses a hook
>>573667463>>>>>>>>>>ivy>m1ggeryeah bro just have a 10k lead on someone with your shit gun so you can 1v1 them finally. trust me it's great actually!
>bebop>bomb geist>tab out and go do other shit for 10 minutesnot even gonna give these lobbies any thought simply just go next
>>573675694even without t2 hook he can knock you back with uppercut and basically stun lock you. Any time he hooks you it's at least 50% of your hp. Because the area near guardian has no cover letting the creeps crash against it actually makes it easier to land a hook than just playing the game normally.
>>573676082I've been doing a lot with witchmail punch bop. Infinite hooks and robot arms is a lot of juggling and selfheal with lifestrikeHis ult is also okay at the rift
Why are Lash onetricks so disingenuous that they pretend like they don't have a tall place to do their gay stomp from on every lane?
>>573677493>lifestrikeditch it, its garbage
>>573677503The only disingenuous players are m1gger players.
>>573677493>lifestrikegets wasted on the hook (light melee)
>>573677525I literally just told you it's been doing great for me. I know your favourite streamer said it's bad but unfortunately everyone is retarded at this game and doesnt understand anything
>>573677640its a 140-190 hp heal every 6 seconds, there are more useful 3200 soul itemsmaybe it works now in your seeker lobbies but it'll stop working the higher you go since you need real items when you fight real players
How do I make venator not a fucking shit m1igger?It feels like hes the best m1igger in the game right now, but he can't fucking do anything on his own.Or is there another obvious m1igger I should be playing if I just want to pick up a gun carry.Is fucking seven ur best bet for just shooting people? its absurd
>>573677836and what else does lifestrike do
>>573677640keep melee lifesteal if you want, but try Cold Front insteadbetter slow, more damage, spirit investment, you can upgrade to Arctic later if you really want to which will gimp their stamina
why the fuck does indom not get popped by slowing hex?it applies partial silence, no?
>>573677880venator is a gun caster
>>573678349>1600 souls to hardcounter a 6400 itemAre you retarded?
>>573678508Vortex web pops it and it's just an AOE slowing hex
>https://files.catbox.moe/7ccni3.mp4is this the power of magician?
>>573678765It's not though, it also repositions you which makes a big difference for things like dynamo ult so resisting it is fine.
>>573678765>>573679087the answer is that indomitable covers 'chains' as part of its cc protection. hex/web aren't explicitly silences as they only effect some spells and items as well. so you will only proc with web.
>>573678349>partial silenceyou are either silence or you are not silencedhaving movement abilities disabled isn't a silence, its having movement abilities disabled.some heroes have literally 0 movement abilities and nothing is disabled?
>>573679943Yet indom pops on paradox swap which is not listed
>>573648994based as fuck
>lose game because you have someone throwing on the worst item build you've ever seen>match into them in the game after and rape them because they did the same thinggenuinely nothing more satisfying
>build purple dmg items on paige>enemy just stands in green fire and fucking dies over and over againhuh
>>573681028>go to his statlocker>900 games on vindicta doing the same build on a 48% winrateam i supposed to admire this brand of autism or scorn itactually just 1500 hours of game ruiner behavior
>>573678508slowing hex does everything else so I kinda expect it to also pop indom, its like atlas holding up the current meta
>>573681205rescue beam vin?
>>573681501alch fire + echo shard rush + full spirit10k start countered by a 3k item guy doesnt even buy items to lane with until alch fire
>>573681205>he doesn't know about the legend of El Entei tried to google it and google is so fucked they don't even have el ente's profile anymoreguy in dota 2 that had like 12000 games as sniper back in 201630% winrate or something worseterrible items every single game
catposters are phantom sissies
>>573682002That was a meta build in high mmr, and the echo counters the dispel
>>573680557yeah but it DOES stun youyou can't do anything while ur getting swappedsame as bebop hook
>>573682314man tell me about itan older engine might do the trick
>>573682480If it stunned it would interrupt channels, not being able to do stuff is not inherently a stun
I really don't get how the enemy is able to just W+M1 me but when I do it with the same character I just get melted for even trying and/or their team comes in to save them.It's not an item or soul issue, its a user issue and I don't know how to fix it.
are green items worth itor are they a trap
>>573682672are you perhaps just standing still while they hold m1 down on your head?
>>573682825Kill yourself mouth breathing retard
>>573682734They are useless if you don't get hit
buff Return Fire in one sentence
>>573683408always hear "pro" players say its a slept on item and it can win every trade in laning phase yet no one ever buys it makes you think
>>573683553>laning phase>where everyones gun does 5 damage per hourdid you know pro players also buy tankbuster, the worst item in the game
>>573683408During effect, up to 50% of enemy projectiles within a radius (both bullets and spells) are redirected to hit you, increasing with proximity (based on the closest distance they will get to you during their trajectory)That's still technically only one sentence.>>573683648They pick Silver too sometimes, if you can believe that
i've been theory crafting this build for a while nowthoughts on surge of power on flawless advance instead of tankbuster here?
>/dlg/ keeps saying that tank buster isnt worth getting, even provides good reasons>almost every high rank player that goes spirit builds itwell which is it?
>>573686359>cheats
>>573686563the average /dlg/er is barely out of Seeker, don't pay them any mind
>>573686563High rank players are boosted incestuous metaslave retards. They will insist a random op character is bad until one of them goes "ummm this op hero is actually op" and suddenly they all agree that it's op. Same with bad heroes they pretend are good or worthless items they buy because everyone else does.
>>573667789sajam is a tranny enabler too?
>>573686881https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xLW8eTuPs i dunno im looking at this and vegas seems to know how to play well
>>573686989>new spirit drifterWeren't """shitters"""" playing this months ago?
Is there a hero who plays like a paladin/magic knight archetype?>bruiser or tank, can take a big beating>team support/heal skill
>>573687137Mcginnis
>OH, DID YOU WIN TWO MATCHES IN A ROW?>TIME TO CARRY 1v11 OR GET RAPED DOWN AN ENTIRE RANKgenuinely the worst matchmaking and rank system in any existing game
>>573687137Ivy
>>573687040it's "new" because they brought it back, it was bad for a moment because of drifter microadjustments in the minor patches
>>573686989>NEW SPIRIT DRIFTER>look inside>
>>573687548yeah im starting to wonder too lol it just seems like a melee/hybrid build
>>573687323lmao yeah sure
>>573678032this anon knows what hes talking about
>Guy remembers me in a match>I dont remember him at allSo this is what it's like to be popular...
>>573681028>lose game because you have someone throwing on the worst item build you've ever seen>they get put on team rapist the next game and get hard carried to a winWORST FEELING IN THE WORLD
My aim is okay but I'm not fast or spastic enough for constant flicking and locking on while holding m1. What are some of the best spirit, tank or support heroes that require minimal aim?
>5 minute queue>have to wait 1.5 minutes for players to load>game lasts SIXTY (60) minutes>trying to communicate w teammates to end game but they just run and farm and never kill objectives>end up losing what should've been an easy dub at 40 minutesI'm done with this game. One hour of my life wasted. I've wasted 250 hours on this game and it's still not fun and the people who play it are fucking braindead. Matchmaking is retarded beyond all belief, how am I getting paired with literal noobs who never played the game before when I'm in Alch3? I tried but fuck this game until they fix matchmaking and thse super long matches. No wonder why mobas are toxic, no one wants to sit in a dead lost match for SIXTY FUCKING MINUTES while the enemy team repeatedly molests you. That's not fucking fun. Fuck this faggot game and fuck the devs who designed this shit
>>573686563High rank players are STUPID and don't know the game. I'd easily shit on them if I was eternus, I'm just not because I got bad RNG on the hardware seeded rank.
>>573688904lol
>>573688870Yeah DL is the only game that legit feels like a total waste of time if you arent just fucking around with builds
>>573688870
>>573688671>My aim is okay but I'm not fast or spastic enough for constant flicking and locking on while holding m1>My aim is okay until I actually have to aimIt's okay to just say it sucks, bro.
>>573688870>Alch3?i mean i got into ritualist out of my first 10 shadow games and been sitting around ritualist 4-6 for 20 hours now
Gunshit ruined this game.
>>573688870>>573688964The game is in a terrible state in general. My Deadlock streamer (I can't play the game, I know it's sad) had a terrible time yesterday and thought the problem was him.
>>573688870>why am I getting noobs in the third lowest rank in the gameI dont know anon its a mystery...
>>573688870>the people who play it are fucking braindeadEspecially the people who play it for hundreds of hours despite not enjoying it and seeing every loss as time wasted. Those people are unbelievably fucking stupid.>how am I getting paired with literal noobs who never played the game before when I'm in Alch3Because alch3 is a low rank?
>>573689045I think I described it well? I have no problems targeting someone and following them with my aim but when they start dashing and walljumping and speeding through me with some ability it'll take me a moment to readjust, compared to super pros who do 15 movement things, lock on and flick aim at long distances like they've played shooters for 30 years straight. I'd say I'm above average because average is much worse than me, but I'm not good no.
Next patch they'll find a new way to nerf doorman
Reminder that there are "people" in this thread who defended Rileycs, the battlefield troon cheater.
HOW AM I GETTING PAIRED WITH LITERAL NEW PLAYERS IN SILVER???
>>573689168Why am I getting literal NEW PLAYERS who have never played the game before and say they are completely new to the game in my Alch3 lobbies? I'd care less if they matched me with people who have similar playtime and skill. know I'm not great but fuck this matchmaking does not fucking help. And the game doesn't even try to teach new players how to play, the ingame tutorial is shit and teaches you zero on macro or how to build. It does everything it can to be unwelcoming.
I'm actually starting to hope this game failsfuck yoshit and hotpoo
>>573689425Because Alch3 IS A LOW RANK WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING ON?! THE FIRST 3 RANKS ARE FOR NEW PLAYERS! IT IS A LOW RANK OF COURSE YOU'RE GETTING NEW PLAYERS WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?!>guys I went into a grade school wtf there's so many children here????
>mina past 10 minutes>no damage>no healthWhat does this hero actually do?
>>573689347Man, I wish I was in Silver.
>>573689498I accept your concession.
>>573689429lmaoIt's going to be a huge success and gigantic e-sport for years to come. Yeah the matchmaking sucks hard as hell but the game oozes with style and quality otherwise.
>>573689498MOST REAL GAMES DONT MIX RANKED AND UNRANKED SHITTERS IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE!!! IF YOU PLACE SOMEONE WITH ZERO FUCKING HOURS IN THE SAME LOBBY AS SOMEONE WITH 300 HOURS THATS BAD FUCKING MATCHMAKING YOU MOUTHBREATHING KNUCKLEDRAGGING APE. EVEN CHINESIUM SLOP LIKE MARVEL RIVALS UNDERSTAND THIS!!!!
>there are SKILL DIFFERENCES in my invite only beta, in bottom of the barrel ranks at that???
>>573689720There's literally no way I can explain to you that at low ranks you'll find new players its impossible you somehow can't get it through your head that at low ranks you'll find new players I'm pointing at a turd and calling it brown and you're going "nuh uh"
>>573689720>IF YOU PLACE SOMEONE WITH ZERO FUCKING HOURS IN THE SAME LOBBY AS SOMEONE WITH 300 HOURSLots of games do this because a lot of people with 300 hours aren't actually any good at the game and don't know what they're doing. There's not an infinite supply of new players to pair together and, even if there was, it'd be useless for trying to calibrate their ranks and quickly get them to where they should be. They have placement games for a reason.
>>573689329like who nigger
>>573690008>>573690072Ultimately this issue would be resolved once they split ranked and unranked
>>573686563It makes your burst damage do more burst damage and it scales and it's purple for your purple ability that does burst damage
>>573689718yeah because style really carried the overwatch league into massive success
They made Haze too good again Yoshi rape her NOW NOW NOW
>>573690072>There's not an infinite supply of new players to pair togetherWonder why. And no it's not because the game is "early access". It's because it's shit.
>>573688870i've put some 450 hours in and the novelty has worn off for melike it was fun to try out the different heroes and items, as with any new game, but every match just feels like the same shit ad nauseumit's not fun and honestly a chore to play that makes me irritated more than anythingeverything about the game screams anti-fun
>>573690443haze has like 600 hp, gets anally raped if you phantom strike on top of her
>>573690516What game do you think has an infinite supply of new players?
A shiv player talking shit doesnt even register in my mind you know?Like I'll be mid match and my teammates will start bagging the Shiv after killing him and I'll go "OOOOOOOOOOOOH, what did he piss on your goomar or somethin'?" and they'll say, "Dude, he was talking shit earlier."I mean don't get me wrong, I don't take disrespect like the next guy but you're basically bullying a retarded kid. It's better to block them out and let them either disappear into the void when Shiv gets nerfed or hope they mature into a half decent Lash player or something.
>>573690585No game. Gaming has run its course. It's all the same live service scam players and monopolize their time slop. Games either want you to focus solely on their game and spend HOURS grinding and perfecting it instead of just being fun for the sake of being fun. Fuck gaming honestly
>>573690331Overwatch has always been rather ugly outside of porn?Deadlock is carried by Valve quality
>>573690604Nah, t bag all shiv shitters
>>573690604>>573690918I only t bag and report m1ggers.
Do you guys think blood tribute is worth it purely for the debuff resistance? I would be ignoring the fire rate and weapon damage entirelyThere just aren't any debuff resistance items for green/purple
the brains of drifter players need to be studied. they'll drop a KD like this so they can get 'stacks' and pretend like they did anything useful because they got 3 assists per fight spamming ult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvxLpIRkDHEwow it must be nice having an official replay viewer that allows people to easily make shots and videos like thisi NEED this fucking game to fail so bad holy shit
>"I'm genuinely getting farmed">*Keeps running off to die*Is this like a weird ego thing or genuine stupidity?
>>573691724Debuff reducer, spellbreaker, unstoppableif your character/build doesn't shoot a single bullet past laning stage blood tribute isn't worth it
What am I meant to be doing as Paige in between team fights?
>>573692183what game doesn't have replays in 2026
>>573692473team fortress 2i mean, it has a demo viewer, but for cool shots you'll need hlae and lawena to setup campaths and only THEN record them
Am I missing something or is it mathematically possible for durability items to keep up with the sheer DPS you can put out in this game?
>enemy team sucks>they're feeding like 8 >my team sucks>they're feeding 17What is this fucking matchmaking Yoshit?
>>573693834Its crazy how you sometimes get teammates that feel like they were intentionally placed on your team to feed and ruin your win streak.
>Top 1000 player>Ascendant 5statlocker ranks are fake as hell wtf?
>>573692473I think Valorant doesn't have one
>>573692323Debuff reducer is the only not-6400 non-orange source of debuff resistance and i wish there were more
>won twice in a row>not a single NOT ONE cyrillic character in sightThe next time im going to lose there's going to be at least one Russian in the lobby either a smurfing soft cheating cunt on the enemy team or a throwing troglodyte on mine
>>573694836too much debuff resistance in the game on random items as it is. it only actually belongs on unstoppable.
>>573694991yep russians just exponentially make a match worse quality the more there are. I've proudly been declaring my racism for them to yoshi for 2 years now. he has on occasions elaborated that he understands it's a problem. hopefully matchmaking update includes a ban on VPNs.
>>573695004t. abrams/venator/pocket main
I'm just gonna buy glass cannon first item on every hero try to stop me spiritsloppers
I'm rushing disarm every matchProblem gunchuddies?
finally gained a rank only took 4 wins in a row
>>573696181>underfed disarmbot disarms me>wait 3 seconds>rape him
>>573695776>Find gungolem with zero items at 6300 souls>Stun and gangrape him
There should be an option for me to disable cubes on me.I have to report each and every viscous that does it
>>573695604ivy actually. it's not really fun being a hero based entirely around CC and having your damage output balanced to be shit because of that and then being made completely irrelevant because debuff resistance is just chucked left and right onto everything. imagine just how quickly DOTA would decline if there was like 5 more items with status resistance you could stack that were core to your build ANYWAYS. that's my problem. abundance on random items. like can you imagine how shit the game would feel to play if heroic aura gave 20% debuff resist aura
>>573698056>get jumped>parry someone>stun another>hex them and drop kudzu on my feet>run away>my mcginnis 'helps' by walling me off>tell him to drop wall like three times>just leaves it up and I die>look up profile>russian
I’m sorry I’m here to concede to the deadlock api guy. It’s superior and Im a brainlet
>>573686983oh yea, big deal at sajam slam
What elo does echo shard paradox stop working?
>>573698757i have literally never seen an okay McGinnis, not even good, just OKAYall of them fvcking suck beyond belief, like everyone loves to bag on caveman melee Abrams players but hoooooly mooooly something about her attracts the biggest knuckledraggers
>>573698576i remember when satanic gave 30 or so debuff resistance and it stacked with SnY, the game became playable for the first time in 10 years without NEEDING a bkbthey quickly patched that ofcourse because stunsissies complained they couldn't chain stun carries for 1 hour anymore
>>573696297nvm lost a free win because people suck at this fuckign game
>>573700351wheres your damage venator silver? 46 min thats like laning phase damage
>>573700187>they couldn't chain stun carries for 1 hour anymoreto be fair dota does a MUCH better job of addressing burst and countering CC. shit like aeon disk exists. people have force staffs and glimmer capes. ursa being able to just rush a sny blink satanic and being unkiteable is just retarded.
>>573699890>buy hex mystic slow echo shard>drop two nades right on top of someone>swap them back into the nade stack the second they get out>they now don't have any stamina left and dielet me know when it stops working because it sounds easy to execute at any rank. only difference at eternus is people seem to prefer the max carbine snipe build
>>573686989>Spirit Drifter>Buys almost all gun items
>>573700430That's above average damage for S+++ilver, the hero is just that strong.
Victor is pretty fun to play around alchemist rank. Did I do okay at 13-2-25? Victory
I'm so sick of victim players in these games, every game without fail there's some stupid fuck with like a 1/10/2 statline
>>573699890Obscurus
>>573700685*warp stones out of your aoe goyslop circle*
post your statlocker pie chart or whatever this is called
>have an absolutely abysmal game>feel like im the worst player by far>lose>check damage>3rd highestThese people can't be real
>>573662771EOMM tends to kick in if you're on a win streak since it will give you retarded subhumans who need to be carried to win or else they'll quit the game and never buy hats when they are inevitably added. Like the other anon said, if you are on a win streak, do a street brawl or two until you get a loss, since that stops EOMM from wanting to give you a loss in Ranked.
>>573694083>>573693834EOMM, look it up. Deadlock uses it and they aren't going to get rid of it ever.
>>573690443Haze has literally never been anything less than good. She fluctuates between good and overpowered.
>>573702435>Forced 50% is a real thingI hate modern gaming so fucking much
>>573702017Guess my hero poolWin a prize
>>573702928seven wraith venator?
>>573702685They tested it extensively in Dota since the 2010s and I don't think they ever got rid of it. It's designed solely to ensure that retarded subhumans will keep playing the game after they get carried after going on a loss streak. That's why you see these retards with a like 30-40% winrate still playing the game, they get placed into matches where someone way better than the rest of the lobby (you) carries them to a win.
>>573703020Wrong on all counts
im watching a max 4 venator not press ultiwhat the fuck is wrong with these LR retards in my games can you at least try it does like 1000 per shot fucking nigger your gun is aj oke
>>573703071Its such a shit system. Now I'm constantly questing myself like "Am I improving or did the EOMM hand me that win and I just stomped a bunch of shitters?"Such a dogshit system.
>>573703272Questioning*
>>573703272Are you retarded? If you're getting better you will climbDespite EOMM this has been proven in countless games that also use the system
>>573668043>>573668073Am I having a stroke?
shit look its another venator god barely being able to outdamage the full supp rem
>>573703272EOMM is obnoxious and very noticeable but if you are genuinely good at the game you will still climb, it just undercuts your winrate by giving you forced losses sometimes, and it is extremely clear when you are given a forced loss.
>>573703935Venator hasn't been relevant since 2024
>>573700158they don't need to aimnone of her spells need to be aimedand her m1 fires so many bullets so fast so inaccurately they just need to vaguely go in the right directionits literally the>I want to play a shooter>but I don't want to aim at peoplecrowd
RemGODS and IvyCHADS are some of the few honest characters left in the game
After playing an unreasonable amount of Street Brawl since the mode came out I can finally, with full confidence, say that SB is a piece of shit mode and is incomparable slop to the main mode which is actually rewarding/punishing.Thank you
>>573705169Paige is the only honest character.
When my team is constantly going brool mode while I'm farming as a carry character what's the play there?Should I send it and go full retard with the rest of them or should I farm as fast as I can and hope by the time we reconvene the game isn't basically lost?It feels bad to leave them to their brooling but man do I lose out on so much souls for some fights that more often than not arent worth it for me let alone our team at all
>>573705629They nerfed souls from brooling
>>573702928haze
>>573703978It's not even subtle in Ascendant I can chain wins together and my team is always actively talking and communicating And then all of a sudden every team I get is dead silent the entire game, zero communication not even pings or typing, and they all go 0-4 0-4 0-5 0-4 in lane
man graves feel like shit right now
>>573707062no i dont play m1ggers stop guessing that shit
>>573707309Shes going to get even shittier with all these retarded initiate faggots still screeching about graves like their opinions matter (it does, Yoshi listens to them)
what if yoshi is actually yoshi and he lays eggs which contain nerfs and buffs and thats how he decides how to balance
>>573707905alright
holy shit goo man actually shits out so much aoe spirit slop its insane
>>573701827you're hexed. gomenasorry but you die.
>>573708209AND it got nerfed already
>lose 3 Brawl matches in a row>queue Standard next>5 white men who use their mic on the team>win by a landslideIs this the trick to reaching eternus? Im being dead serious
>>573703935>bossu is a shitter on deadlock AND ngslmao
>>573677880I got Phantom as a Ven OTP and I feel like the reason he's hard to understand is because he's limited yet versatile if that makes any sense.>T3 grenade is one of the best m1gger utilities, but taking extra charges is trolling>T1 gutshot is an incredible lane bully tool, doubly so once you learn the spacing for guaranteed heavies without T2. Gutshot T3 is also his best upgrade and most Ven tourists don't rush it>Traps are gay...but also phenomenal contingency tools that really shine both mid-fight and during escapes>Ira Domini is 3 hitscan executes without falloff, arguably the best m1gger ult in team fightsHis kit is amazing but the lack of purple scaling makes him fall off a cliff after midgame, only becoming strong again after 3-4x 6.4k buys
>>573707120Yeah I was in Oracle-Phantom when I last gave a shit about playing the game and it was extremely blatant that after winning at least 2 or 3 games in a row that I was being given shitter teams who fed and didn't talk at all.I know Statlocker isn't super reliable but look at these fucking teams.
>>573708802well known tactic in dota 2
>super mega giga pro ascendent silver-tranny (who had to swap to shiv prenerf after almost losing a fucking arcanist game) hasnt been for 3 days to update his "grind from initiate back to ascendent" progressbro got filtered in ritualist lmao
>>573709348>>573707120Go in settings and enable "extra competitive"
>>573708209>viscous and paige can just press 1 in a random direction without thinking about it or it occupying their focus>it does 1000+ dmg and is unmissable and is okay to Yoshitrape these nigger devs
>>573658787Tranny cucket is literally more busted and bitch made than apollo could ever be.
>>573708209i always have him or mcnigger on avoid in brawl, it just ruins the fucking rng funmode
>>573709809That was the point of the post.
>>573708209They nerfed literally everything about Viscous and then put all the power into his most boring ability. Punch Viscous should come back, it only made movement trannies mad because it forced them to use stamina so they can't just fly across the entire map after they lose 100 hp
>>573709603im usually not a fan of the "elo hell" complainers but in this game they're unironically right, they change the system without resetting rank, matches aren't even pairing people close unless you're already in top 1%, and "neutral" elo is actually above the median numerical value for rank, the system is completely and totally fuckedyoshi says this is "to collect data" but its absolutely clear they're just balancing the game around jew tubers and the top 0.5% of the playerbase who has learned to bug-abuse movement in this retarded engine not designed for high-speed movement, once the "alpha" cope is gone this game will die out FASTmy only consolation is shitting on the super-buffed pick of the month with an optimized setup and rage-baiting them in game chat
>>573710529there are e6 players who dont even know how to corner boost quit coping
>>573710679>there are people at max rank who dont belong therethanks for agreeing with mesub 50k peak players incoming this week btw
>>573710782i'm sure a phantom 4 gaming expert such as yourself knows all the makings of an eternus 6 player
>>573710529I started in Alchemist and got all the way to Phantom, meanwhile new players are placed directly into Oracle and don't derank from it unless they have a like 20% winrate.>>573710679Corner and edgeboosting is retarded movement tech and should be removed for being stupid to perform and looking stupid to pull off
"bug abuse movement" is my favorite shittercope movement is not why you are oracle
try eternus 2 who quit 3 months ago because this game is shit
>>573709734Paige is honest, her ability is at least somewhat delayed and telegraphedViscous and Dynareddit are some bullshit tho
FUCK BRO ALL I WANT IS TO HAVE AN OPTION TO NOT PLAY WITH THE BALKANS
>>573710994Movement in deadlock isn't fun to pull off, it feels like Warframe where you have to spastically flail around the area at all times or you are being 'inefficient'.Either way the game is steadily dying due to constant bad patches and genuinely awful balance, so it's not my problem.
>>573709603I knew that faggot would get filtered before neutral elo and called him out several days ago. People who think the rank system is fine in this game are just delusional copers because their favorite eceleb says its okay.
>permabanned from metro's chat for saying it's not pedophilia if she's 16that was very funny
any "frame perfect" bug needs to be patchedcorner boosting shouldn't exist, it makes 0 sense and is a result of valve being lazy with source and not accounting for edge-cases with velocity vectorsthe normal movement stuff where you can save a single stamina bar and learn it within 5 minutes in a solo lobby is finethe game really needs a tutorial on movementkill all ecelebs etc etc etc
>>573711643Most people don't live in the 3rd world, anon.
>>573712310half of america is 3rd world?woawi mean, i would say all of america is 3rd world, but...
>>573712430>No UConcession accepted, pedo
>>573711135I'm e5 and think this game is shit. It's mostly because of the lack of draft and dog shit matchmaking. People sitting in 4 stacks will try tell you it only happens maybe 1 in 50 games. Meanwhile I'm literally just getting ping ponged wins and losses based purely on who got the 0-16 agent.
>>573712624>no rebuttalso is half of muttmerica 3rd world by your logic, or no?
>>573711926Making a tutorial would take away from adjusting the numbers on Pocket or Shiv by 1% every month though.It also would make the devs have to justify why they have so much retarded buggy movement 'tech' in a game that has been in development for close to a decade now, and you just know for a fact that they aren't capable of making a tutorial that actually can explain in less than a minute or two how to perform some of the retarded shit they leave in the game.Mantling over a wall and sliding? That's sensible enough. Just hold control after climbing up a wall. Using a heavy melee to extend air time? It looks a little weird but it is mechanically fine and is simple enough to pull off. Corner boosts? Edge boosts? Instant air dashes? All retarded and needs to get removed.People like to be nostalgic about GUNZ: The Duel, but that game was full of absolutely stupid mechanics and 'techs' that made it unplayable for anyone except the sweatiest losers.>>573712684Draft is going to be necessary with how badly balanced the game is, and how some characters are completely worthless against some drafts. Yes, I want Sinclair on my team when the enemy team has zero ults worth stealing.
>MIna trying to get away from a fed Doormanhttps://streamable.com/lwtmxs
>enemy patron weakened>enemy team dead>"LeTs dO miDBoSs">tell them to just push! End the Game! Don't give them time to respawn!>go in and end the boss myself>"see? no need for midboss!">"dUde cALm DoWN"Euthanize the mentally feeble
>>573712776>"The sky is green!">"Shut up retard">"Heh, no rebuttal!"
Mina is literally unplayable
>be sniper paradox>theres a retarfed viscous on my team>consistently goo punches the enemy out of my shots>if not that, cubes me whenever im about to take a shotViscous players need to be shot.I have never been once glad to have a viscous on my team.
>>573713651Good, she's an obnoxious character, like more than half of the cast at this point.
Im bored, anyone wanna post a match ID of a lobby they performed well in so i can watch it?
>>573712781all they need to do to make the "tech" usable is add a visual cue like they did with dash-jump. This would make the sweaty players lose their fucking minds as they no longer have a moat and would have to play the game instead of snorting a couple addy before each match to larp as a mentat
>>573708895yeah pretty much 100% agreetrying to do shit with charges is just a fucking joke, grenade is amazing but holy shit hes non functional if you try to do anything with it beyond what it offers as a base. Its such a weird skill.gutshot is just an amazing ability, I am not great at setting up heavy melee with it until the t2 and even then I am not super sure I will get a stun every time.Want to work on my gutshot usage a lot more, the more I play him the more use I get out of it and it just keeps getting better as a skill, I don't understand why people dislike getting the t3, its strange to me.traps are a weird skill, I kind of just throw them down all the time in places that someone MIGHT get fucked, like behind fog barriers, behind bigger obstacles so you can't see the glow and if you try to push me at them you eat shit, around corners people will take while looking elsewhere, like when trying to shoot ur walker, escape paths, etc.So often I get biiig trap value, but its such an absolutely shit skill, I just kind of put them down and treat it like a lottery, its low investment, and usually the return is incredibly low (it gets shot at best or does nothing at worst), but you hit that jackpot occasionally and its insane.I wish he had something better than trap or it wasn't just dogshit but it is what it is.Ira domini is such a great skill.There is nothing like earlier on just fucking stakin cunts and just them get destroyed, such a great skill, quite easy to use, when you get the pierces and hit two people its INSANE damagetriple hitting someone and killing them solely with it feels so good, especially to see them scramble aroundI struggle to carry games with himHes great for taking people out, but hes not a "1v6" type heroyou are very vulnerable to bigger groups jumping out and need to position very carefully, need a lot of damage and survivability items so less room for "utility"Would love to know what you build on him as mine is a mess
>>573713651if you're an aimlet yes, otherwise she's a menace
>>573710529elo hell IS real and is entirely dependent on your rank and the time you play.If you don't believe me, look at your match ranks after the match. If the enemy is higher rank that means 1 win = 1 rank up or = 2 rank upsIf the enemy is at ALL below you, if you lose you'll lose 1-2 ranks.You have no way to control this, you have no way to prevent this, and you have no way to mitigate this because the game ONLY goes off of win/losses not actual stats/MVP's.So you just get fucked in the ass if the game wants to give you an Arcanist 6 game in Ritualist 4.
>>573711926corner boosting isnt frame perfect otherwise i must be a gamer god prodigy with how consistently i can do it
>>573714713its not, that's why i listed is separately
*shids all over bread*
idk wtf corner or edgeboosting is and im ascendant 2, should i be worried
this thread is the only place i have seen so many people aggressively campaigning to remove every source engine movement quirksource physics have been part of source games for longer than you guppies have been alive
>>573714943You don't belong there
>>573714943When youre about to coom but you fight it back via sheer willpower
>>573714952bunny hopping existing doesnt justify 12 different bugs the game doesnt tell you about and you HAVE to learn by watching youtube or being in discords where they actively HIDE the technique
>>573715173*opens mouth*
I can't even wall jump consistently, I squeeze into a wall, let go of W, hold A or D in the direction I want to bounce to not lose momentum by doing the opposite, and instead I just spend stamina on a double jump
>>573715293Holding W and occasionally pressing spacebar/shift is all i need to win games
every rem player is either this or 100% silent
>>573714191Venator can't 1v6 because he doesn't have a get out of jail free ability like Mina, Wraith, Infernigger, and other obnoxious m1 characters have. He's, unfortunately, balanced.
>>573715639the silent ones are biofems who are afraid of being yelled at
>>573714952And they all suck ass and make the games worse. Deadlock already feels awful to play if you pick any of the characters that don't have inherently busted movement abilities like Mina/Wraith being able to teleport across an entire lane.
>>573715834You can do the same movement tech with the slowest heroes like Abrams and Victor though?
>>573715691He can 1v6 if hes in a small space and has witchmail for infinite shotgun melee executes
>>573715896Can you? I swear Abrams has high gravity on hes so fucking slow even with enduring speed
is victor fun? tips?
>bashdown effectively silences you as it pulls you downyeah sure why not. since we're adding bullshit to the game yoshi please make it so if you shoot abrams for more than 300 damage within 5 seconds you get disarmed for 2 seconds and of course don't have that written down anywhere in game
>>573716154Heavy characters like Abrams and Venator actually have worse dashes than characters like Haze or Mina.>>573715896That's not what I am talking about. Characters with get out of jail free abilities can save their stamina to do all the gay movement tech.
so... when are we setting up the /dlg/ 6v6?
>>573714237no she's shit worst winrate unplayable
>>573716320>if you shoot abrams for more than 300 damage within 5 seconds you get disarmed for 2 secondsthis kind of shit is normal for tanks in hero shooters, i wouldn't be surprised if they gave abrams that
It's insane how worthless playing frontliners feel. Total diceroll archetype. Teammates don't want to show up to fights? You lose. Venator decides he wants to build funnee echo shard melee build? You lose. 70k seven decides he's too cool for unstop? Lose.
>>573715691yeah I don't expect to 1v6 with him.but I was playing a lot of 1v6 style carries (mostly seven and victor), or at least characters who can pump out a lot of aoe damage at once so its less relevantit feels weird playing ven after them since I basically only ever want to take "1v1's" type of thing, where I just need to take out ONE guy and then the next etc etcshowing up to a fight after its started and just raining hell on people from the side hes amazingjoining up to an ally in a 1v1 running away and just getting (basically) a free wall stun because you can just approach from wherever and just turning the fight immediately feels amazingbut the games ur putting in a lot of work and the enemy decides you need to get focused and the moment you show up suddenly 3-4 people blow everything on you and your team isn't doing jack shit to kill the other people while ur just sitting there fighting all these people, you kill 1 or 2 and then go down... and ur team killed no one and its just like bruhif I was playing someone with more aoe I would have just killed all of them in that scenario when I am far enough ahead that they need to all jump me the moment I show up in a fight, so its definitely been a strange experiencealways do well with his macro game and am always keeping up (usually ahead) on souls, even when someone else gets fed I am still keeping up while showing up to fights and shitlove not having a shit laning stage though compared to the other heroes I playthe high bullet velocity (highest in the game) means its very easy to just deny souls from people as well and easily get ahead, then its so easy to just win the lane and get a big advantage off that.fuck I am pretty sure that even if u buy the bullet velocity item, the only hero who can even get close to vens velocity is holiday, who does get more with it, but obv has a harder time securing orbs than him anyway. and that is just his base bullet velocity.
>>573716154>Can you?of course he can do corner boosts and edge boosts like anyone else
>>573717243>be in a match against an obvious mina smurf>she goes 14/1 in the first 20 mins>loses the match 15/8 another 15 mins lateryeah she might be a menace but she can't carry for shit or end matches.
>>573717687abrams is such a faggot character>entire a fight you cant win>spam Q>press 1 button for a free escape and if they chase you they'll just get stunfucked again
>>573717687should one be concerned you bought both horsecock stamina items to demonstrate this?
>>573718176he didnt buy the THIRD horse cock stamina item tho
>>573718176its just the easiest way to get 5 stam without stamina mastery
>>573718061>parry obvious brownoid abrams>he vaporizes to concentrated fire by the other team>ragequits after going 0/6 in 12 minutesyeah such a faggot character
>hit 40k as wraith>walkers are paper, easily 100-0 in less than 10 seconds>hit 40k as venator>need to be left alone for nearly a minute to accomplish the same thingWhat exactly is venator supposed to be good at again
>>573718240stamina mastery is a sopping wet mare vagina
>>573718310have you tried the leather belt for 4 stam 4 str?
>>573718372
>>573718470>seekertard can't aimMany such cases!
>>573718912what does aiming have to do with mag-dumping into a walker the size of a house?
>>573719025I accept your concession.
>>573719074I accept your concession
>>573718912Both characters have the same aim requirements I don't get it
>>573719216Wraith doesn't require aim though?
>>573654216When I play lash you're right, I tickle them with a full combo. When other people play lash, one stomp takes 3/4 of my health.
Why do I never see Vyper mentioned when noobs ask for a 1v6 hero, shes turbo broken
>>573719405Sliding makes aiming harder and she doesn't have any "I win" buttonsFor most of the playerbase, she's just a less effective haze
>>573719216that guy used his american-level of literacy to interpret the post incorrectly. after >>573719025called out his stupidity he decided in the moment to just keep rolling with it and play the "I accept your concession" card to maybe save face, and if that doesn't work he'll play the "I was only pretending to be retarded!" card.
>>573717687It looks like your dashes are giving you a lot more velocity than mine do and they fling your character's legs to one side which I see a lot in deadlock spectating but I never replicate in game. What's causing that?
>>573719258then neither does venator
>>573719553But she deletes faggots faster than a haze ult if you've seen Tbird play her a single time
>unstoppable>prevents silence, curse, stuns, disarm, fire rate slow, spirit power sap, certain weapon damage debuffs and siphon bullets debuff>does not stop movement slow, resist shred, any dot, healing reduction, inhibitor, stamina reduction, stamina freezing, damage amp debuffs, doorman's accuracy debuff "temporarily suppress negative status effects" needs to be changed to "*some* negative status effects" or they need to rework the item
>>573719553>aiming harder>when you can just get split shot
>>573719703Air dashing diagonally gives you more momentum than dashing straight forward.
>>573718470venator is the most broken OP hero in the entire game every E6 eceleb has told me this for months now
Vyper? More like Dyper
>>573719808there's nothing to fix here. the item lists everything its effective against. if anything you should be arguing for a better description instead of a rework but you're a retarded autistic nigger anyway.
>>573719927You can do that on literally any character. Moving quickly makes it harder to aim, and trying to maintain your slide also takes additional effort compared to other hero's. Those are objective statements.I didn't say "vyper is bad because sliding makes aiming too hard". I'm saying "the average player can't aim for shit and isn't capable of using her effectively">>573719775The difference is that you need literally 0 mechanical skill to run up to a slept target and hit curse and ult.
>>573720139>if anything you should be arguing for a better descriptiondid you not read my post entirely are you retarded? why did you even reply if you didn't read my post? I literally said they need to update the description
>Drifter
>>573720426I accept your concession.
>>573720556but we are agreeing and you are just retarded and illiterate
best part of deadlock is not having to play this shite
>>573719932That's pretty stupid, but this will help me move around on slow ass Abrams (and less slow ass Billy)
Why do I look at Apollo and just think "Brazil"
I don't understand how to play yamatoI win lane, I get strong, but then I just feel lost after that. Once the enemy has a few greens (and god forbid they buy counterspell and invalidate 70% of my burst) it becomes giga risky to try and engage since she has no escape and the ult combo takes several seconds. Without any CC or reliable aoe damage she's pretty much useless for team fights too. Then past 30 minutes most heroes can just facetank and outsustain in a 1v1.
>>573659106For me its the movement, I'm so used to Deadlock that I instictively try to wall jump and whatever when I play other games and it feels like SHIT when it obviously doesn't work.This game has ruined my chugus life
Why do I even bother learning Sinclair when they're gonna be unrecognizable or outright removed in 6 months
I can't stop playing the girlfailure.... and being turned into one myself because she sucks...
>>573720256Don't kid yourself split shot is must buy because the gun is very inaccurate by itself not just because you're sliding
>>573722141She's so fucking worthless why aren't they buffing her
>>573354179You cant do anything alone on bebop any more you have to hover near your team and hook enemies into them
>>573659121Yeah the only people who get comms banned are reported an extraordinarily high amount not just one game.
>>573710529>its absolutely clear they're just balancing the game around jew tubers and the top 0.5% of the playerbasebalancing around pro play is optimal like in dota & cs, they just need more/better solo-centric mode where everyone can run around like a chicken w/o a head. brawl is way too feast or famine so gets exhausting really quickly
>Haze and Wraith are STILL SSSS+ tier brokenI'm not playing this BLM DEI slop
Why do people buy healing tempo on venator?I don't understand how it procs?Is it really just to amplify the HP from siphon bullets? not even for the MS and fire rate proc? that seems like a waste for 6.4k
>>573722860it doesnt amplify the healing but every time siphon hits it procs healing tempo so you have permanent movespeed and fire rate while also boosting any other healing you have
>>573723117oh so siphon does proc itthat makes senseI was looking it up and it explicitly said siphon didn't proc it so I really didn't understand.Okay that makes sense if you need more MS then
>>573723191siphon has two components to it -> raises max hp->then heals the amount of max hp you gained to top you off (but this is affected by anti heal)
>>573719932Awful game design, really. They need to get rid of that, it adds nothing to the game besides needing more inputs to do something that should be the default.>>573717665Venator has a pretty good lane but he can get bullied by hyper-mobile dive characters like Yamato and Pocket who can just ignore his debuffs/stuns with their "I teleport across the entire lane/dodge your attacks" buttons, on top of Venator being a slow fat fuck that is easy to hit with their abilities.
I want to beat Dynamos who dont use their ultimate in any effective way in any teamfight with my bare fucking hands.Why do you ulti when half of us are dead?Why do you ulti as an escape technique when it cannot be used as thatWhy do you ulti when theres 1 (ONE) person in your ulti when you had 4 chances in this fight to catch 4-5 of them in it...
kinda want to play a game but Norway - England is in an hourwhat am I to do
>>573708895Most of what you said seems accurate to me but him falling off because no purple doesn’t really make senseI just view +weapon damage as the “spirit” equivalent. If you only get that it will be similar peak to spirit, strong early but doesn’t scale, if you go max firerate it’s more traditional gun carry scaling with weak early and strong lateThere is probably a happy medium where you go 4.8k with just +dmg items then pivot into firerate but personally I just focus on firerate from the beginning because the spells all have utility beyond their dmg, also some of the dmg is boon based so you aren’t even giving up all of it. He also has the third? Highest gun dps at max only beat by hyper and someone I can’t remember
>>573718470Venator is good but he's actually balanced unlike almost every other M1 character in the game, 'pros' overrate him because they don't want to admit that hybrid carries that do both obscene gun and spirit damage are overpowered as shit.>>573719808And now you see the problem with BKB in Dota. It was simply too good at blocking everything so they add a bunch of caveats that are able to ignore it.
>>573720139panty sniffing is gross
>>573723309ah well that clarifies itthanks for the info!
>>573723584get a second monitor lilbro
>Used to play many much deadlock>got to oracle 6> (:>Get a little burnt out so play other things>Play the occasional deadlock match so my rank is still Oracle even as the months pass>get the urge to play more consistently again>super rusty, 11 game losing streak right off the bat>ZAMN MY VIRTUAL BADGE>whatever, keep queuingI've fallen to to low Emissary but, I'm starting to get my groove back after a few days, but the games feel so strange after dropping so low. These gamers play like animals, constant fighting.Kinda based ngl
>>573682734>>573692937i don't know about all that but when i buy 80% green items i just win regardless of character
>>573705413Also the WORST place to learn a new character to play. You are literally better of feeding and suffering in full games.
>>573713651Mina is decent at early-mid game but you need your team to actually do something while you are going 15/1 or you just lose during the end game.I think the best fix for this would be if love bites damage went up with the amount of stacks rather than just having scaling on her ult, even her voice lines hint at her being a scaling hero.
>>573724079I was oracle when ranked first came out then dropped the game for over a year, came back and placed initiate. The depths of hell is incomprehensible. Now phantom again and people are still retarded half the games like no idea how to play the map at all
>>573720883Welcome to Deadlock movement, where everything makes no sense, is not documented anywhere, and 'pros' think that this makes the game better somehow.
Im amazed more people aren't complaining about the rift because holy fuck is it aids.>Team thats ahead will contest rift and win it like 70% of the time (and even if they dont they're still ahead lol)>If they DO contest it they can atleast get 2-3 picks off of it>Now they get like 4-5 super troops to push and since your down 2-3 people they just get a free walker with itFucking insane game design and genuinely worse then how Urn was because all it does is buff the team that gets it whether they are ahead or behind.That and the fact that it spawns on time intervals means you wont always be able to contest so whichever team is in the best position gets it anyways
>>573724452Please, no, we don't need Mina to have infinite scaling on love bites. She's annoying enough already and is way too easy to play.
>play spirit Apollo>get raped>play melee Apollo>get a tiny bit less raped>play gun Apollo>don't get rapedsomething I'm missing here? a brain mayhaps?
>>573724643nah, gun apollo is just the most broken hero in the game right now but the eternus 7 cabal doesn't want you to know this
>>573723974i have 3 lil guppy but deadlock isnt the kind of game where you can just be glued to your other monitor. it's not runescape
>>573724643SHIV IS SO GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY FUCK THIS GAY ASS HERO FUUUUUUUUUCK
>>573724797So you just never use his 3?
>>573725064use it when you're reloading, you can get 2 perfect strikes in and then you've reloaded your gun
>>573724643i don't get it, his gun scaling isn't that good (sure it's in the top15 but for example warden should heavily outsustain him in a 1v1, venator's gun outdpses, seven and wraith should have a huge soul lead from being better farmers etc.) is it all just because of the riposte stun?
>>573725329>venator's gun outdpses
>>573724971>release a character who is easily the most broken character in the history of the entire game>he is fundamentally broken, number tweaks cannot fix a character that has so much mobility, a gun that is only used as a mobility tool so it's like he has 6+ stamina at all times, stacking damage over time, an execute ult with an enormous range that is basically just removing 30% max hp from the entire enemy team since it refreshes, and free spirit shred on his spammable dash that also refreshes itself>also he has a rage mechanic for no reason at all besides making him even more overpowered that makes all of his abilities even strongerThere is NO way to make Shiv balanced, he is obviously one of the dev's pet heroes that are never going to be even remotely balanced until they are totally gutted and all of their abilities are reworked entirely.
>>573725428>cheat cursor
>>573725491both him and graves need reworksgraves 1 and 3 need to be remade and shivs entire gimmick and kit needs to be NUKED
>>573725428>disconnected shivniggerevery time
>>573725329>>573724643his gun isnt good but stunning people for 2 seconds with free pointblank headshots is
>>573724479The people simply hate macro.No urn, no rift, no midboss, no pushing walkers except death balling down mid to perish.Its just a raw skill check, scrappier team wins
>>573725428yeah exactly, i don't get it. venator's gun literally scales better. the numbers don't lie. yet he gets shit on despite popping vampburst, and apollo doesn't even have antiheal items. what the fuck.>look at venator's items through statlocker>recharging rush, rapid recharge, ballistic enhancement, cultist sacrifice, hollow point, fortitudeoh, of course
>>573726191>recharging rush, rapid recharge, ballistic enhancement, cultist sacrificeIs this the answer to the age old question of 'why is venator the lowest winrate character since his release' after all?
>>573725589Shiv's gimmick is having literally no weaknesses and being such a mess of character that his introduction to the game started an unstoppable wave of powercreep that got us to the state of the game we have now, where half the cast are fucking worthless and the other half are giga rapists.
>>573718470>2 cc abilities which can be combod together for a potent burst combo>excels at playing tight spaces, rift midboss jungle camps>very high health pool>ult is good at farming solo kills midgame and puts enemy m1ggers on death's door in 2 shots from a safe distanceits not rocket appliances this niggas strong
>>573726573>>573726191It's because Venator has the unfortunate spot of being the only balanced character released in recent memory, and only getting nerfs since his introduction, basically. The devs don't like him for whatever reason.
I dropped 2 whole ranks through a combination of leavers and absolute mongoloids on my team (and a few deserved losses, too) and can't seem to get back up. No one communicates in here and they constantly deathball in random locations. I help someone get out of a bad fight and they instantly go back in. People farm jungle next to walkers being taken. Not a single counter item in sight.I know eventually I'll go up because I can notice I've improved, but playing is just very frustrating right now.
>>573726804>very high health pool>mirage: 2310>yamato: 2310>ivy: 2330>venator: 2330>paradox: 2340>apollo: 2350keep in mind that's his BUFFED hp pool, it used to be as low as haze and graves hp for some reason
>>573727230The devs don't like Venator for unclear reasons, every part of his kit got nerfed since his introduction despite not actually being overpowered in any way. The only 'OP' thing about him was his ult being bugged and broken on release and doing 5000+ damage with one shot.
Drifter is so cool visually but he's just so boring to play.
>>573727230He literally has more health than any other m1gger in the game except for Warden and Geist
>>573727619spirit drifter is more high iq
>>573727641He has slightly more health, but unlike all the other m1gger characters he doesn't have a button he can press to become invisible and cleanse debuffs, or teleport across the entire map, or run faster than anyone can and leave fire behind himself, or become invincible and then teleport again, or turn into a tornado and become invincible and then do it again.He's just lacking in mobility in a game where mobility is overpowered as fuck.
>Probably the most broken hero in the game>Without fail, goes 0/11 90% of the timeFucking how? I don't actually play the wasian tranny so I wouldn't know
>>573728064He does take a little bit of getting used to, but that is no excuse at all for being so overpowered.
>>573728064one of the least skilled characters in the game
>>573728064People fundamentally misunderstand Pocket's they/them pussy. They think Pocket is a spirit burst hero when Pocket's actually a gun hero with unlimited jukes. Optimal play is to shoot your cloak at a vector away from the fight, blammo people with your shooty gun (which does infinity damage when you cast the cloak, literally forty levels worth of bullet scaling), run in, ult on some people, satchel and teleport to the cloak. But instead these stupid genderqueer allies run in and try to do spirit damage and pop like a LGBTQ balloon
>>573725428>same clip for the last 4 weeksIs this the only time this build worked or something?
>>573726191>>573726573How do you build Venator, nigga?
Why did they make Pocket they/them shit? He could've been kino
abrams
>>573728064>waisian tranny literally spreads aidskino.......
>>573723584good goywatch your niggerball
>>573728662It makes people mald to be beaten by someone who identifies as nonbinary, so why not make someone with one of the most annoying kits in the game also ragebait pronouns in bio
>>573728064>need to consistently land multi person afflictions or you have no damage>instantly die if you get silenced or fuck up your escape>spirit has amplified damage to you so any random spell chunksnot easy at all
>>573728538
>>573728862im norwegian nigga we havent been in the WC since '98faggot
what is the gun item equivalent of tankbuster?
>>573729030Headhunter
>>573729030Siphon bullets
>>573729030it's either headhunter, express shot, hollow point or spirit rendmy vote goes to headhunter
>>573729030toxic bullets
>>573729014good goywatching millionaires kick ball for 90 minutes must be so much fun if you are braindead retard
>>573729231that's the gun equivalent of decay
>>573695118I sometimes get them in my NA games and I immediately know I'm doomed. It's crazy that their EOMM is so desperate to make me lose that it puts angry retarded Russians in my games.
>>573729361maybe if youre a retard cause one is max hp other is current
>>573728064I played Pocket a single time, for the winter character challenge, and built gun, and it was one of the easiest wins I've ever gotten, so easy that I don't want to play him because it's so boring, same shit as GT. I'd rather lose as a fun character like bebop than win as a retard pissbaby character like pocket gt or victor
they should just abandon the game for a while and focus on finishing it. what the fuck was that last patch? they might as well have done literally nothing. meta remains exactly the same. why waste everyone's time? its not like they give a fuck about feedback from us anyway, thats what the secret branch is for. just focus on actually releasing the game they should have done this in 2024 honestly
>>573729459what does tankbuster do again, anon?
>>573729503you get easy lobbies for characters you have less games on
>>573729251>getting mad at what someone else spends their time doingA sign of low emotional intelligencekwab
>>573729795>watching goysportsA sign of low intelligence
>>573729589Nukes them at the start of the fight and lowers their max hp
>>573729924>spending time on a goywebsite in a goygeneral dedicated to a goygame talking to goygoyskwab
>>573728798how is this fair at all...a fucking 1v3 WITH tower turrets attacking and you walk away like nothing happened and then proceed to get 2 more picks
why is marvels rivals so hard I'm losing in gold
>>573730121wrong thread
>>573730112they didnt hit him with a single source of antiheal and their team is 50k behind, yet he still almost died. Pretty fair actually>>573730240We are ALL playing marvel rivals until victor is nerfed lil bro
>>573729030An item everyone buys which is actually the worst item in its category?That'll be headhunter
>>573730306almost dying is not dyingbullshit character, in no way should he win a 1v5.Not in league, not in dota, not in smite. There is NO moba where you win that fight while TWO towers are focusing you.
>headhunterwhat makes headhunter bad anyways? i like it on more hit-and-run burst characters/builds to add to their burst combo, does it just not do enough damage to justify it?
>>573730306out of the many bullshit characters in the game you struggle agaisnt victor??
>>573731107people dont realize that even if its not charged it still procs and thus think its bad
>>573731220yes because unlike the other bullshit heroes there is no countering a victor that knows how broken dying in a good position is, like there's literally nothing you can do it's lose lose when he charges like a gorilla. Especially on riftFocus him down you waste time/resources on a tank with two lives that will stun and slow everyone in the rift area anyway. Dont focus him down he does a billion damage raping your backline. It's retarded and his ult always being up now is just oppressive with no way to stop it.Check his eternus winrate on statlocker or tracklock after the patch. +6% or something stupid cause of the 35s reduction of cooldown
>>573728396normally im too focused on the game to make clips, i'll remember to clip stuff for you next time babe
>>573725428>not even TRYING to shoot the headim trans btw
won this game btw (not blue)
>idle matchmakingwhat the fuck else am I gonna do?
>>573732518sit there for twenty minutes while it calculates the worse match up ever
>>573732518practice troonvement
I've played multiple games as every single character and the only one I have a positive winrate on is Graves (60% with 40 games)
>>573732518KILL ABRAMS>KILL ABRAMSKILL ABRAMS>KILL ABRAMSKILL ABRAMS>KILL ABRAMS
>Another episode of the fed agent feeding on my team ensuring a loss
>Was Phantom 3>Lose nearly 10 games in a row>Back in OracleWhat the fuck. I didn't start playing worse either, my team has multiple people dying 10+ times in about 30 minutes what am I supposed to do about that?The worst part is that Phantom and Oracle players feel exactly the same, rank is cosmetic until Eternus, isn't it? Help me win lads... I can't keep doing this...
>>573732518i present to you,the cuck chair
>>573733791they're the ones feeding, yet we call them "feds"...really makes a man think...
>>573733881don't play ten games in a row and only play one regular match and then play brawl for a week or you know play a less dog shit game
Holy shit graves is op
>>573734250eternus-kun...
>>573733881Welcome to EOMM, it isn't going away ever, and all it does is make people actually decent at the game mad when they are forced to play with feeding retards in the hopes that you will carry them.
normally i give eommschizos a pass but for this game specifically that has zero form of monetization why would they bother with implementing eommit isn't like rivals where they need to keep you hooked to keep buying passes and skins and venom shaking his ass emotes, i think it's more likely the matchmaking is just earnestly shit
>>573736024People unironically think forced 50 is rigged matchmaking and not just how mmr works when you reach appropriate skill level. It's just mental illness EOMM is not real
>>573736024there probably isn't even anything wrong with the matchmaking but I'd be shocked if more than 10k people were playing regular deadlock rn which means making lobbies is gonna have a wide spread of skill
>>573736618The problem with matchmaking is that all it takes is a good mid boss to win the game, so regardless of how fucking garbage someone is at laning, itemization, if they lock in and steal boss or something all that other stuff didnt matter at all to influence the game.It's more that the GAME is bad so matchmaking is bad due to MMR not being an indication of who is better only who won a game due to bullshit. Also wildly changing patches. Someone might abuse the 60% victor this patch to phantom then plummet down to archon after he's nerfed
>>573736024>i think it's more likely the matchmaking is just earnestly shitNo, nothing can just be bad. It has to be a conspiracy.>>573736442Rivals does have EOMM. You fight bots in quickplay if you suck. The mere fact that you fight blatant bots in QP though is evidence that they don't have some super algorithm that rigs every match perfectly in ranked like retards suggest along with the fact that ranked is very transparent about how bad the ranking system is. You can rank up with a negative WR, there are no placement matches, there are safeguards to stop you from deranking, every season deranks people so somebody hopping on after a week is seal clubbing, and that's on top of the general issue of people being forced to fill roles and play characters they aren't good at. None of that will ever be fixed though because people just cry EOMM like schizos instead of complaining about the very obvious issues that could actually be changed.
>Apollo dies 4 times in lane>only notice after the abandonment message pops up>GT in his infinite wisdom thinks he can leave without a loss so it balances out>Retarded drifter that dove and died 5 times is the second to leave>unironically is a blessing in disguise because the drifter (initiate 3) and apollo (initiate 1) were just dead weight we didnt need to share souls with anymore.>rape the enemy team because i'm a gun carry reaching my spikes really early>solo midboss>win game
>>573649795lol just look up sometimes you stupid nigger. If you double jump as hes coming down you don't take damage unless he can snag your hitbox and displace you. Always play defensively if you're against lash in yellow lane. Mid lane is safe and green lane is mostly safe on the outer side.
>>573737092Yeah in quickmatch they have the bots, which I suppose is EOMM adjacent, but not quite EOMM which would rely on actually being able to mix players together in a super advanced way nobody has figured out yet
>>573737249>cheating
top 3 heroes for just doing my own thing like splitpushing and jungling?
>>573737412nta and correct me if i'm tweaking but doesn't netease have a paper or patent or something that reeks of eommi recall them having some presentation where i remember some sort of boost being given to "the player who is struggling" (weird wording but i remember some screencap of that)
>>573737741Companies have patents for all sorts of shit they don't use and can't even feasibly implement.
>>573737741Companies patent shit all the time that is useless and not actually implemented or viable just in case.
I'm a kidnap utility Doorman and snowball Kelvin main. What does this say about me?
>>573737671seven geist victor
>>573728662Who knows. I'll only call him he because he's obviously a dude and was designed as a dude from the start, and more importantly in the 50s or whatever the time this game takes place pronounshit wasn't even an idea or concept.>but there is magic and occult shitDidn't ask faggot.
>>573738008you love pretentious bullshit
>>573738008You love being useless
>>573738008as your post number indicates, you are a boob
>>573734250It's kinda funny that her winrate is climbing off of a patch that basically just made her jar charge slightly faster off of neutral camps and increased the heals she gets from tier 1 death bubbles. It doesn't feel like the kind of change that would make her winrate jump like 5% on paper and I can't explain it away. I think people legit just forgot how to play into her because her pickrate was like 15% for a minute there, and now that there's a Graves in every game again people don't know what to do again.
>>573738414Deadlock is all about snowballing so a "tiny" change that helps you get an advantage early can actually be huge.
i come bearing information from the secret test server about the game's newest character>their 1 is an AoE throwable bomb that applies a debuff>their 2 is a movement spell that can be used to gap close or escape>their 3 is a passive that applies to their M1>their ult is a large AoE spellstay tuned for this character to drop in the big november patch!
>>573738593Wow november! Valve sure knows how to keep interest and make things hype. Perhaps there are more victor buffs too?
i really feel like the doormans ult is kinda bullshit
I'm gonna play Doorman on EU and I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. Oh and I also have all voice chat muted. Ta-ta!
Nevermind I got Rem. Time to go gun Rem!
>>573738547I play Graves part time and my heals have gone up like 3-4k a match, averaging to about 100 more heals a minute. I really don't think it's impactful enough to explain a 5% wr jump even in eternus. I'd sooner guess the increased wall uptime has more to do with that, even though they also nerfed the root duration.
how the FUCK am I supposed to lane agianst m1gger?
>>573739731You don't, they are allowed to be op at all stages of the game because m1gger players are retarded.
>m1>oplow elo
>>573739590they also nerfed her rapists like drifter
>>573740031m1 is op, the "people" that play m1 just suck
>>573740031this. m1 playstyle is extremely weak, this is why all eternus players run spirit builds
>>573739731Stop standing in the open letting them shoot you. Hit and run them.
>>573740313Maybe you just suck?
>>573740625Anon, you're the one pretending m1gger heroes aren't op just because the "people" that play them suck
>buff Graves, again>she becomes meta cancerous, againWill they ever learn that this garbage design of a character is unhealthy
>>573740762True, everybody who plays the role you're whining about is just bad and that's why you win. There's simply nothing you could do better to deal with them. There's no need to learn or improve. Just keep bitching and ignoring reality like a woman.
>>573741128Keep downplaying m1ggers, I know what you are you boosted subhuman
what makes ivy S tier?
>>573740805They buffed victor and haze at the same time they just want to kill their game so they dont have to work on it any more
what's the point in leaving feedback when they don't even view your posts in the first place? I've posted well over a dozen times on the forums and they've read like maybe 3 of them and replied once. am I just supposed to cross my fingers that they see feedback/bug reports? it doesn't seem like a very smart system
>>573739361Eh I tried...
>>573741346very stable laning, basically no bad matchupsversatile kit lets her fit into any comp, she can lean support or spirit/teamfight slop or gun (splitpush/debuff utility if going gun you are not the carry)one of the best midboss contests in the game with stone form and kudzuult lets her splitpush safely or join for ganks and fights/skirmishes happening around the map, WITH the option of taking a teammate to said fights or flying them to safetytether is also very op just read the ability + healing tempo makes your m1 carries into godi think that pretty much covers it
>>573742481u did great
>>573731804
kill all calico and mirage players
Have the sloptubers placed Silver back into S+++ tier yet?
>>573744819She never left S+++ tier despite being the weakest hero in the game that's how good she is
>>573744819Vegas did
>>573741346Macro is king and she's the best at it while also being really hard to kill.There's nothing else in the game that really compares to turning a 3v3 into a 5v3, or a losing 3v3 into a losing 1v3 and 2 splitpushed lanes, and your ability to do this is on a 60 second cooldown (50 with compress CD and the cooldown starts as soon as you cast so it's ticking the whole time you're flying)
Metro is proof that wraith is actually the most boosted hero in the game.
>>573745091Why?
>>573741860Pretty sure they use AI to summarize feedback so you should still post it. I've had yoshi comment or like about 10 of my posts out of around 30 they definitely do read it, but it also depends if they're interested in what youre saying in the first place, like they are ignoring certai nheroes as they work on some right now shiv had a bunch of feedback and questions even in the discord
>>573745283Any afk farm hero like seven or wraith or victor is broken right now cause all the early game doesnt matter only thing that matters is mid boss you just farm until it's time to brawl over boss, maybe join a rift fight or split push during it.
Ok I just tried playing Silver for the first time.It's fucking hard I can't get a quarter of the ult filled before there's no fight around anymore or I'm dead
>>573745379silver derangement syndrome, trve though about the mirage
>>573745660>silver needed buffsWhen the fuck did this hero get buffs
nice game deadlards
>struggled my way up to Archon>Theres STILL people who feed, over extend, try to 1v6, and randomly jungle as I struggle winning lanewhats the point of ranked if the shittiest players in the world can get up to fucking Archon by just playing casually?Its insane how I have to explain why we DONT take Rift fights because we're going to lose and why we need to focus on pick ONE FUCKING TIER AWAY FROM ORACLE
>>573745828Don't worry this happens in oracle too, and phantom, and ascendant, and low eternus, and high eternus.
>>573745754They undid the cooldown nerf.
>>573742481looks like a game I just had.Me and Infernus lost lane because Infernus was retarded and kept over extending for some reason (I tried to save him multiple times)Mina was fucking 13/0 the entire game... we ONLY killed her when she had rejuv and only I killed her twice...Billy was the only person on our team with a positive k/d and me and billy were the only ones in low single digit deaths
>>573745914Partially, it's still longer that when she was mediocre.
>>573745903its fucking crazy man, am I just so terrible that I struggle through ranks but people just playing casually can somehow get up here?like what is the excuse for this dude I dont get it, even if they're boosted you'd think they'd fall immediately and it wouldnt be my entire team being retards
Give Silver the 40 second cd ult againGive Silver the heal on kill during ult againThere, she's B tier
>>573746037Kinda crazy that she went from 40 second cd to 80 in just a few patches
>>573746204give silver my penisthere she's S tier
when are we getting real occult characters in this game
>Team has unlimited CC that is non ulti based>enemy team STILL completely takes the rejuv that my team was getting somehow...>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3GOo_nWoc
>>573746214And lost the heal on killAnd went to 41% winrate in all ranksAnd these retards still pretend she's S tierWhy the fuck are the devs listening to these retards for balance suggestions?
>>573746504>Why the fuck are the devs listening to these retards for balance suggestions?eidohe plays in dlns kid, do you?
if I lose 1 more game because my teammate is the most retarded person on the planet, I will NOT be responsible for the chat ban that happens next
>>573746578No, I quit because the balance sucks ass
if someone has blood tribute, does curse lasts for less?
>>573746579I literally play like a retard into baiting people in saying the most heinous shit to me. It's literally what gets me off, it's my fetish. Doing this in a MOBA provided by Valve is honestly the best. People really let it all out here because of Valve's lenient moderation, as long as you're not threatening to go to that person's home and kill them Valve really doesn't care. Oh man, but let me tell you I got this one guy to scream at the top of his lungs saying he's going to kill himself if I don't lock in to then saying I hope I get raped irl by a pack of niggers. I wish replays contained voice because oh boy I would've saved that replay in a instant.
>>573747013Yeh
>>573747089you like being a retard?you like playing like sub human garbage?your my little retarded sub human IQ boy aren't you?Why dont you be a good little boy and keep playing like shit for me, because watching you play like shit makes me realize that maybe im not the dumbest mother fucker in the room.Fucking retard
>>573747089record it next time. voice recordings are too hard for the small indie companies hard drives
>wolf form is easily countered by getting on a ro- AAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK
I'm a Silver onetrick and I'm trans, if it matters
>have a great match>get mvp>check game on statlocker>enemy team was all high oraclet-thanks
>>573747994omg same sis S+++ilver is so strong it doesnt matter that we have below 45% winrate on her
>another forced loss>0-14 pocket in my team>check replay>he stands afk behind guardian and walker while throwing out random cloaks to teleport in and get himself killed intentionally>his steam profile is 12 years old, no editing or background or anything, owns 11 games total, no badges, and the name is a random word with random numbersnot only do i get placed in forced-to-lose 1v11 teams but now i get people intentionally trolling and trying to derank
EVERY win was me carryingEVERY loss is because of my shit teamEVERY kill was me shitting on an inferiorEVERY death was a limit test(i have none)EVERY assist was a STOLEN kill
Yissss
>>573749336congrats bro!im re-stuck in alchemist because I made the mistake of trying to learn a character in Arcanist and these games have NOT been kind to me
>>573749336congratulations on turning on your monitor
>>573749185NoYesNoNoNosimple as
guess the rank
>max priority Shiv>turn speakers up to 300%>load up entire playlist of Tom Waits' playlist with Hoist That Rag interspersed every other song>bottle of bourbon on the side and a lit cigarette in my mouth>queueBLEED!
>>573750379shivKING... STAY!
new content update:>1 new trans asian>1 new black girlboss>1 new indianyou rike?
>>573750640don't mattuh, dey all bleedKNIFE OUT
>>573750701>damage against black girlbosses (and rem) reduced by 50% because of historical racism
If Mirage beetle gets nerfed to not work with EE again, I hope he takes ice beam with him.
bepop is so fucking cancer
they should let us bank eomm with other games so if i want to win some games in deadlock after work i can afk some games in marvel rivals during my lunch break to build up eomm credits
You know at this point i don't even play this game for the game. Its basically just a convenient way to feed me people to call niggers and make miserable. You click the button and you get to hold five people hostage with their time and call them slurs for 20 minutes, and that's very cathartic
>>573749738>Doesn't believe in his own abilitiesyeah bro very chadly
>>573751891I dont believe that I single handedly can win a 1v6 game, thus as I believe that my team who is actively feeding is making me lose my games
Why does it feel like my aim is getting WORSE the more I play?
>another forced 5 loss streak where i have double the kills to deaths, i have double or more than double the souls of the worst player in my team, and my average teammate goes 0-20i uninstalled until a large matchmaking update
>>573752227because you're probably reinforcing bad habits instead of actual aim training with something like aimlabs
>Suspect enemy holliday is aimbotting>look at replay>they are jittering around and at soft aimbotting, locking onto people through walls and knowing when to throw a barrel even if your behind 3 wallscool game honestly
Thoughts on my Venators build?
>>573753291afk time
>>573753291>shotgun into wall>melee>echo shard>shotgun into wall >meleefunny but you can do the exact same thing with abrams only 10x better
>>573716320>get hooked>get uppercut>get hooked>can't fire back the entire time
>>573753476>>573753795we lost btw
How do I get in the mindset to expect a heavy melee? I am so grug shoot I forget that melees can be a thing and I am deer in the headlights when they fire one off.
>get 4 kills in lane>ivy on my team leaves and abandons because they die once in lane>just after the limit for the match not countingFUCKING FAGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS
>>573752227If you're ranking up then you're also running into better players that don't let you freely shoot them as much.
>>573754508Is your rank still affected if someone leaves?
I'm Paige I fire wyrm nukes from the back the entire match and spam util for my allies the entire match but I'll never get nerfed because I cant win a 1v1
>>573755219Paige is unironically the biggest sleeper threat in this game.I tell my team to focus her otherwise she'll fuck us in the ass and they refuse to do that.then surprise! she fucks us in the ass every teamfight.
>>573755154Leaving punishes everybody on the team past a certain time (unless you do the miracle 5v6) so people don't try harassing each other into abandoning or having one person tank a legitimate loss for their friends.
>>573755327Literally, since she's not doorman carting in your face or Dynamo fishing for a black hole she's just ignored while she makes her team immortal and makes you useless
>>573753291>no magic carpetuh oh xes throwing...
So, when's next update dropping, around august?
UHM SILVER BROS I THOUGHT THIS HERO SUCKED?
>>573757841does xhe know?
>>573757854She does, winning on her is so rare you get mvp automatically if you do
>>573757965i want to have sex with cici
>>573758289ive found a new secret build i am winning i will single-handidly save silver
>>573757854her wolf form is really fuckin good, it just sucks to activate it you basically need to sacrifice 50% of your HP and you DONT get that back in your wolf form.
>>573758482>melee creep>good
Paradox is fucking insane
>>573745660What even is the point of charges over lowering their cd, yeah I know charge time and use time are two different things but having a higher charge time than what the ability would have if it was a simple cooldown isn't even a drawback, they don't stop charging when you're box running or going back base so they're just more powerful than normal abilities for no reason, and then they make an item that gives them all the stats they wanta lot of annoying shit over patches can be traced back to a charge ability, powder keg, flame dash, kinetic pulse
>>573758329Do NOT the clanker
there was an indian in my game and dear lord certainly the worst deadlock match io've ever experienced
just won a bot game with a 56 kill streakrank: phantomthoughts?
