Smell of Tertium editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>573779487>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2:http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide:https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
You just copy the OP and make a thread (don't forget the subject!)Why is this general so bad at baking?
Havoc 50 when
>>573886276Sent ;) check your inbox
Is it even possible to make the claw good
Stop discussing lore right now.
>>573886462The Chord Claw?
>>573886545when are space marines coming to help us on atoma
>>573886615when they take care of that glub shitto business
>>573886615when are plague marines coming to help admonition so they can get blown up by a single krak(just like in tabletop)
>>573886615When it becomes more serious than a mild chaos cult uprising.
>>573886648UP IN DA GLUB!
>>573886597YeahIt feels vastly underperfoming compared to the other abilities on havoc
>>573886162you will do it for free
>>573859814>they "fixed" that long ago but it seems to be broken since the skitarii releaseNo they didn'tIn over 2 years I haven't heard a crusher make a sound
>>573886984That's just a consequence of it doing flat damage. Don't use it in Havoc. This is pretty normal. Lots of things don't work in Havoc. You can make it stronger though, but it really isn't going to help as compared to being a lightning storm on command. The class also has other ways to help deal with bosses, the claw isn't necessary. It's fun to use in Auric and below though.
fucking hell you guys weren't kidding expedition is dreadful. I had to do one for the skit, it's empty
>>573886615When warp storm ex machina ends
>Poxbreaker title>Literally walking to every corner checking for loot, shooting horde with arc rifle.>Pushing an auric mission to 35 minutes to complete. For fuck sake, can Fatshark increases block list limit.
>>573886035Can someone McFucking explain to me why my older characters only get 2 curio rolls in the store, but the new characters get 3?>All 4 original classes, all only get 2 curio rolls every hour>2 skits and an arby, all get 3 curios per hour
>>573887259>don't use it in havocnahhttps://youtu.be/NTLaaXAktT4?si=BbNtH2231-KKxcSl
>>573886615Space Marine 2 expansion.
You know what, maybe skitarius isn't so bad in h40 in my hands of course>melee did more boss damage than my plasmaOh... hm. It did singlehandedly delete 2 burgles and stagger the fuck out of 2 rape balls that would've run us over, so it still did its job I guess. I wonder if any of the other guns are even comparable. Arc rifle seems alright for brittleness support but not the kind of gun I'd bring into havoc, plus melee blending with >70% crit already (if slowly) stacks brittleness anyway.Run felt like a disaster but I was mysteriously fine most of the time. Having a bad corridor burgle and just letting yourself get vored to save the team is pretty funny. Ablative Wards is a good talent.
>>573887664>shooting horde with arc rifle.>noo don't use the weapon for the only thing it's good athave you even looked into how the attacks on it work retard? you can argue that bringing an arc rifle is a waste of a team slot but if he already has the arc rifle he should use it optimally.
Thoughts on recon lasgun?
I'm not reading your scoreboards or watching your youtubes
>>573887664>>573888074it's auric (not even monsterous), you'll live
>>573888150Very strong and comfy gun on veteran. Very commonly built incorrectly and thus often appears weaker than it actually is. Viable but outclassed sidearm on zealot. If you bring a gun on psyker just bring a pistol of sorts, not recon las.Laspistol is better in every way that matters, except ease of use.
Are some Daemonhosts forced encounters? Just had a host go apeshit on the whole team instead of just killing the one who aggrod it.
>>573888150One of vet's best guns, decent on gunpsygger and gunzealot memes
>>573888150it's okay but i'm not a fan of the long draw time. i could see it being worth it on dreg seeds if i'm frontlining and want to trade with gunners but otherwise eh
>>573888270Only havoc "Heinous Rituals" daemonhosts do that if you let the cultists complete the ritual.Rituals go faster if you damage them or get close, so stay far away and leave it alone until you're ready to kill it quick.
I am stuck in havoc 30s, this shit is too hard
>>573888368i want to make fun of you but having to reclimb havoc up to 40 for the 5th time in a row for no reason makes me fucking exhausted
So for Veteran Skit penance to count on Mortis Trial you HAVE to be the one taking AND inserting the Mortis Relic at the end
>>573888781I'm pretty sure you just have to be there from the start.
>>573888868nigga I did five fucking missions when I was from the very rdying up screen to the end and I didn't get it until I inserted it myself
>>573887941>CheatsI care not for your opinion
>>573889106who is being cheated?the others, by winning more?himself, by not dealing with fatshark's miserable design?
>>573889240He's playing on PC, he is clearly cheating.You didn't beat the game if you didn't do it on console, obviously.
>>573888150it has recoil so not a lasgun. it's an autogun with oops all tracer rounds loaded.
>>573889185Why are you trying so desperately to argue against shooting gunners.There is a gunner there.Kill the gunner.The opportunity cost of not killing the gunner is being shot, lowercasetard.>just spawn in a lasgun veterannigger
>>573889281a console is just a weak storebrand pc with autoaim cheats. you don't even need a disc drive anymore, just like pc.
>>573888074You can argue that incorrectly. All of the Skitarii guns are good. If Reginald can do a true duo with Galvanic, and Mr. Estrogen can do a true duo with the Arc, and you probably use Phosphor, you'll live if the Skitarii brings any of the three to the game. It's a skill issue if he does poorly with his ranged weapon, not the weapon itself. Otherwise you are going to have to admit that Reginald and Mr. E are better at the game than you, presuming you used the Phosphor and you're afraid to use either of the other two.
>>573889106are the cheats in the room with us right now?
>>573889240>Spidersense>Half a dozen other cheatsI care not for your opinion
>>573889448>he can't recognize spliced footage
>>573886615they're busy having fun with their dad/uncle in their murder-extermination space picnic aka crusade
>>573889552Horrifying cope. Truly. Did they mod their weapons to change from the Phosphor before the games ended so they could trick you into thinking they didn't use the other two?
>>573889546>basic fortnite setting made before the game came out is cheatingugh next you're gonna tell me that increasing your fov is cheating too?
>>573889546Again, who is being cheated by it? You're honestly of the misguided opinion that beating this game 100% vanilla is worth some sort of accreditation or accolades? You consider yourself superior by not using them?Really?
>>573889634>You consider yourself superior by not using them?I think he is salty because he got hardstuck in the havoc 20s and is now trying to cope that everyone above it must clearly be cheating, else how come he (the noble non-cheater) got filtered?
>>573889634It's okay if you need cheats I just don't see why you want to deny it
>>573889613No they just took shots from the same level at different difficulties with the same weapons and stitched it together into a winning run.it's very common, especially with e-celebs.
>>573888150I keep mistaking the persistent laser trails for sniper beams
>>573889634I mean there's a decent argument there. If Fatshark is balancing the game around mods which do actually make it materially easier... that's kind of a problem for people who don't use them, right?
>>573889712Horrifying cope. Sincerely.
>>573889695gpk is that you? wobin has been living in your head for 3 years, at least PRETEND he owes you rent
>>573889695>no matter the skill level, the mods help you and the others you're playing with win moreWhat, is that not your goal? Is this some buddhist bullshit about the journey?
>>573889448>Mr. Estrogen can do a true duo with the Arcand does he use the arc rifle for sniping gunners? or does he use the weapon for what it's fucking designed to do, which is magdumping crowds at close range with everything else being secondary and situational
>>573889779If you expect me to recognize either of those names no
>>573889837Not my argument. I am pointing out that the Arc Rifle is not a waste of the slot. You can move the goal posts somewhere else. Otherwise you need to explain why a guy you think is bad at the game can do something you're afraid to even attempt.
>>573889938you are arguing with like 3 different people here. my only replies are >>573889837and>>573888074
>>573889837>the only reference lowercasetard has of havoc is some jewtuber faggotCan you please keep your theorycraftsissy posting do your damnation player trooncord and leave the adults alone?
>>573889770I don't think fatshark balances it around anything other than "least effort for greatest financial return".I think any chimp can make a better game than they've done and frankly that's what the mods do. Are you really going to say it's against the essence of a skitarii to have automated functions, early-warning systems, customizable huds? What about a psyker? A psyker's not going to have a spider sense of sorts or more control over their powers so they don't absent mindedly "click" their powers to exploding their own head? An arbites with their dog? oh yes the dog is totally retarded must be told everything its to attack like it's some brittish loicence thing.Seems more authentic to me, and the only reason it's not in is because the swedes are too stupid to code it themselves or worry about alienating sweats. Fatshark is the one cheating you out of good gameplay.
>>573890045>dophoneposter detected.
>>573890045concession accepted
>>573890120I'm actually just naturally that retarded, the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet.
>>573890045You raped him>>573889837He raped you
>>573890045>havoc the discussion was started by a comment about auric you spastic transsexual
>>573890169>schizo gets btfo>starts samefagginglike cockwork
>>573890196>autistically arguing to not shoot gunners in auricOh so you are even more fucking retarded than I could've possibly fathomed
>>573890280>everyone is the same person!!!Someone's a schizo, alright
>>573889770Is it? They seem to get some lowtiergod-esque fart high off doing it without mods. They seem perfectly happy with the situation.
>>573888150My most preferred primary on havoc desu
>>573890462stuff like spideysense or just guaranteed/buffered special actions and weapons swaps should be apart of the base game. chatblock is literally in vermintide and integrated within the game and to the console editionss but fs just chooses not to replicate it for darktide. at least we have dodge counter that's in the vanilla game at least (but i still prefer numeric ui)
I don't care if someone cheat mods but I will still absolutely make fun of you if you use centered ui slop. It's so fucking embarrassing going out of your way to intentionally make your game as ugly as possible to shove flashing lights in front of your face because you're too stimmied out.
>>573890950>it's silly to want all the relevant information in the centre of your visionLet me guess, you wish you were a tesla driver?
>>573890950nah you're just coping. this is the most optimal way to play darktide
>>57389111390s Mazda for life>>573891138All it's missing is the fingerless glove meter
>>573891138also forgot to take my testosterone this hour (i'm a body builder)
>>573891138>this is the ideal setup, literally every other design in history is for stimulant freaks
>>573889634Cheat codes were always considered cheating even though they were only a thing in singleplayer games.
>>573891249And where is your speedometer and tachometer? Way off in different corners of your vision or right below the center?Granted people can and do make their ui look shit, the principle is correct.
>>573891375Okay cool. Who are we competing with? Chaos? Is chaos of all people mad that we're being unfair?
>>573890950I refuse to take statements like these seriously unless there's a successful havoc 40 recording of the poster using their stated ui preferenceNot because I don't think it can be done, just to prove that they actually play the game and unironically hold the opinion that vital information should be displayed in a corner as far as possible from the action
>>573891113You know you can move your eyes rightThere is a reason why stuff like dodges and stamina is centered, while other things aren't. That isn't a design flaw, it's intentional. You don't absolutely need to know that you are at 79 health every second of the game, that information is still in your peripheral and having the exact information isn't relevant, if you want to check then you can glance because it's inconsequential for 95% of the game lmao. Same thing with ammo. It won't disappear if it leaves your field of vision, you can track it with your memory, you do have object permanence
>>573888238>Very commonly built incorrectly That being...?
>>573890950>I will still absolutely make fun of you if you use centered ui slop.Some people can afford large resolution screens and play on full screen, where having the UI in the corner puts it so far out of your peripheral vision that it becomes difficult to pay attention to at times.I don't like centered UI either, but I understand why people use it. You are just some salty turd-worlder and mad at people using mods because you got filtered by havoc.
>>573891475Why are you trying to argue that cheating isn't cheating?
We should join chaos because they won't send Space Marines to Atoma. This is bullshit. Whose with me?
>>573891574So you'd be fine with having your cars gauge cluster spread out over the cabin? Speed on the driver door, tachometer in the rear view mirror, turn indicators in the glove box? You do have object permanence right? It's not like any of these things change frequently or bear monitoring right?
>>573891625The most common, most wrong way I see is blue recon las (the fast one) without Shock Trooper, often without Reciprocity, and many that do bother with Reciprocity take Onslaught (the stupid brittleness) to cope and shoot crushers with a gun that has no business shooting crushers.Optimization wise, the reason to use the blue one is because you hate Deadshot, and/or really dislike how slow firing the brown one is. Brown recon las with Deadshot is as efficient as the gun gets. You fuel stamina through piss tag's stamina node and 1 stamina curio. If you have trouble with stamina management, do better. Stop sprinting everywhere.Either way, not running Shock Trooper is FUCKING RETARDED. Both brown and blue do unexpectedly well with Executioner's Stance. All marks of recon las are generally outperformed by las pistol regardless.
>>573891690Because nobody is being cheated by it. If anything people can only benefit from it if you perform better. Do you really want randos in this fucking game to play WORSE?
>>573888368Keep trying! You can do it!
>>573891764Jokes on you anon, I quite literally don't have a tachometer on my 89' kitbox and I shift purely based on audio and feeling.
>>573891764Hey maybe he just likes french cars
>>573891885>he drives a modded carThe jokes just write themselves.
>>573891996>he doesn't get his car checked and repaired by an official first party dealershipLiterally cheating.
>>573891850Blue and brown are both better than green?
>>573891875You can refer to>>573891375againYou do not need to be competing with anyone to cheat.
>>573892154Blue and brown have enough cleave to shoot through 1 trash mob. Green doesn't, so it goes in the trash because you'll spend too much time shooting into a wall of trash instead of cleaving the gunner behind it that needs to die.
>>573891885Does anyone even look at this shit?Like I don't remember the last time I looked at the tachometer.
>>573892290Only brand new drivers learning to drive manual transmission, which is the only time it's relevant.
>7 different classes>each one has its own weapon pool>each one is adept at different variants of gameplay>be me>play veteran, zealot, and skitarii as crackheads with pistol and knife>play scum as a double crackhead with double pistol and double knife>be happywhat do we call my retardation
>>573892368I like and use the RPM lights on the steering wheel of race cars in sim games I play, because I might not be acquainted with any particular engine.
>>573892181To cheat is to deprive someone else of something unfairly.
Should I just wait for level 30 before moving over from heresy? I'm 26
>>573892290Ah this explains the rampant phenomena of the "moneyshift".
Just had a guy screaming into his mic as loud as possible any time he got grabbed and yell-talking exactly like someone on MDIt was kind of funny at first but got old super fast
What's a yaku? I only play by feel nyaa.
>>573892368There are a few other niche scenarios like for racing which probably doesn't apply to anyone here and if you're ever in a situation in which you need to conserve gas for whatever reason then the optimal use would involve keeping an eye on it.
>>573892534First thing I do in any game with public voice chat is disable it. The idea of having unconsensual voice chat with absolute random ass motherfuckers is cringe as shit.
>>573892628I don't mind it. If anyone abuses it I just say the magic word and they quiet down
>>573892534First thing I heard in my first match back was an arbites yelling 'DO YOU WANT TO FUCK MY DOG BRO? ARE YOU LOOKING AT MY DOG'S ASS? WANT TO FUCK MY DOG?'
>>573892447A cheat code in a single player game is still cheating.
>>573892186This is incorrect.Brown cleaves through 1 auric poxwalker without withering fire, 2 with withering fire.Green and blue cleave through 0 auric poxwalkers without withering fire, 1 with withering fire.Brown cleaves through 0 h40 poxwalkers without withering fire, 1 with withering fire.Green and blue cleave through 0 h40 poxwalkers with or without withering fire.
>>573892983>Green and blue cleave through 0 h40 poxwalkers with or without withering fire.See, I hadn't tested this because I don't play vet, but this tells me blue is even worse than I thought, and brown is just completely fucking superior.And they still job compared to laspistol.Bluetards need to die.
>>573892628I'll definitely mute if I get him againNow I'm just imagining him dropping the act as soon as the mission ends/loading screen pops up and just going quiet with a blank face
>>573891737Nice try, Mysterious Voice.
>>573891138
>>573893320>of course it's psyker, the class that can be played fucking blindfolded
>>573893320>executioner stance wallhack>quick swap macroyep.. its h40 time
>>573891138>>573893320This shit genuinely looks like one of those video game HUD shitposts.What the fuck?
>>573893320All my niggas racist
>>573893069Both las pistols have the same cleave breakpoints as the green and blue recons, and seem to cut through horde slower. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
>>573893668stay out of my h40 and ulduar raids if your UI doesn't look like this
>afraid to look up meta builds online because I know it will be completely different than the makeshift amalgamation I homebrewed as a beginner
Only mods I have are numeric UI, chat block, muted hallowette+bixnood+dukane, and config disabled anti-soul gas.
Something that I have slowly learned is that Budding Interrogator is a sure sign of a shitter.
>>573894085I use Reject.
>>573893935>muted hallowettewhat mod is that?
>>573890120phoneGOD*>>573891737>>573893185Lol
>>573894265Zip It 2. Also lets you skip mission intro talk if you're backfilling to join faster.
Is there a way to tone down the fucking blur on scum stim? Or PBB?
>>573894472mods>which one?dont know
>>573893926>implyingPeople still pretend that kiting for 90 minutes with knife bleed is metaPeople still pretend that drooling sword is metaYou can't find meta builds online anyway, shitters who can't even pull their weight in h40 tend to have very strong opinions, and shit every website with their takes. At best they learned a very obnoxious kiting playstyle because they can't pass the dpscheck, and subject everyone to this torture.Not everything that works in h40 is meta, and not everything you will find on the internet claiming to be meta even works.I allow you to look up "meta" builds under one condition - don't trust them to actually be good.
>>573893721The laspistol can be built to have literally infinite ammo and it deals like double the boss damage, is what I'm getting at.
So are ogryns used in all guard regiments?
>>573893926There's disagreement among the so called top 1% of the playerbase as to what is meta. Making own builds is a lot more fun than copying what some say is the "correct" build.
>>573895137no. Ogryns are relatively rare.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>can only be completed in a private game>private games can only be played if you have at least 2 people in a partyAre they really going to gatekeep this cosmetic because I don't have any friends? Or is there another way?>>573895040Well to be honest as much as my talent tree probably sucks, I'm not too adamant about it. My biggest concern is the weapon. I'm afraid of looking up online and then finding out that the weapon I'm using is turbo garbage and I should kill myself for using it. I like using it.
>>573893850Ewww
>>573895619Party finder and discord are both readily available to you.
>>573895619Just buy cosmetics, bro
>>573895716Was under the impression party finder was not used for non havoc so heresy would be a no go. And I'd rather not communicate with disc*rders
>>573896060someone here can probably help you at some point
>>573895716>Party finderLOLThe best you can do is just generic "Penance" lobby, good luck with anyone joining or sticking around after asking what penance you're going for because they probably wanted to do something else.I guess because typic custom lobby names would be heckin offensive or whatever the fuck but since you can't even specify anything the literal only thing this dogshit is good for is Havoc>DiscordAh yes, I'm so glad I have to go through third party programs to solve an issue of dogshit game design. I don't disagree with you mind you but developers should fix their dogshit fucking game first rather than making the players rely on third party software to patch the holes themselves.
>>573895296Do certain guard regiments actively decline opportunities to have ogryns in their ranks?
>>573891996>he's a wrenchlet What are you, a woman?
DELETE THE FUCKING POXBURSTERS ALREADY HOLY SHIT
>Hi guys, need grimoiresWhat's your answer, tidesisters?
>>573896995Get the grims before he does and destroy them
>>573896995>ugh...>*rolles eyes*
>>573896995I hunt down the nearest grimoire and pick it up and keep it, because I know for a fact some other retard will grab and die with it.>why are you not complainingI run health curios on most builds, grims barely affect me. Don't care if some 3x toughness meme slave dies to purple.
2x health 1x staminathis is the correct curio build for everything but wound zealont
>>573896060Do you want to get the penances done or do you want to keep up moral posturing over not using chat services for like half an hour?
>>573897506no 3x stamina on hive scum for gigachad attack speed enjoyers
>>573897739He needs the extra health
>>573897739I dropped one stam for one health shrimply because pox bursters could be here
but I was told to run triple toughness curios on almost everyone
>>573897976Retards
>>573897976Geniuses
Mister E said toughness toughness toughness and I believe him he is the top 1 Darktide content creator.
>>573898238axe/falchion combo for Darktide when
2x health and 1x toughness is correct.I do not understand stamina retards.
>>573898358On scum, it is a massive DPS boost because his attackspeed is tied to extra staminaOn everyone else, it is purely situational quality of life. Some weapons really want extra stamina because the pushblock is the fastest source of strikedown nuke, like that one knife mark for example. Or a very good source of cleave/stagger to reset your combo on heavy weapons
>>573897976And they're right. The extra toughness will greatly reduce the chip damage you occasionally take. In h40 a psyker with 3 health curios will still lose two thirds of their health from one poxburster hitting them, and since they've given up all their toughness curios a double hit from poxwalkers will instantly get rid of the other third.All you need to prevent the instant full death from a poxburster is a single +5% health perk.
>>5738982383 toughness is the best set up on ogryn. He already has enough health, also ogryn's biggest issue is ranged enemies, not melee ones.So having more toughness lets you absorb more ranged damage before it becomes a problem.It's also why I use Can't Touch Me Again as well. Having Can't Touch Me + FNP + gunner resist, makes ogryn very tanky against elite gunners and ranged enemies in general
>>573898358Stamina is objectively optimal on melee scum because you get a huge attack speed buff from it.Stamina is theoretically optimal on everything else too, because it lets you move fast more, block more (while reviving), and push more (if you have poor stamina delay). It perfectly follows the school of thought that building defenses is stupid for some retarded arbitrary reason (nobody plays that perfectly, not myself, not (You), not some imaginary perfect player).I like 2 health 1 toughness the most on most classes. Ogryn doesn't need or really benefit that much from extra health, veteran likes 1 stamina curio for Deadshot, zealot is comfy in auric with 1 stamina, that's about it.I only run 1 health on arbitrator nowadays, I felt the extra toughness to be a little more comfy, and it lets me move one point from a toughness node into a damage node.I run 3 health on psyker and skitarius with as much (non-toughness) damage reduction as possible because I fucking hate pubniggers blowing up bursters in my face.
>>573897514> posturing over not using chat services for like half an hourI've already moved on. Just because you replied to a 30 minutes old post it doesn't mean people were on that for 30 minutes. You're the one still in it.
3 thougness on every class, I won't fall for your tricks, nu-uh!
>>573898660>In h40 a psyker with 3 health curios will still lose two thirds of their health from one poxburster hitting them,Yes, and a psyker with 3 stamina curios instantaneously goes down, or, if he has any amount of toughness chip because the host is the kind of retard to not acknowledge the power of purity aura, just dies instantly.Toughness chip shouldn't even concern you most of the time as the typical "backline" type role. You don't have to run headlong into shooters and gunners, AND it's your job to render them inert, whether through shriek or bubble.I only accept 3x toughness curio psykers into my AIDS havocs if I can't get any better. They almost always just stand in the goop and die to it like retards instead of nutting up and bringing a health curio with corruption res.Putting 17+5% toughness on literally everything because some jewtuber told you so is fucking retarded, and optimal play doesn't even use much toughness if you're good at sliding.
>>573898796>>573898645You get +36% from base stamina + adrenaline + rampage. What's an extra +12%? Combat axe cleaves hordes of enemies dead faster than they spawn.>move fastThe next enemy is never that far.>block moreKill things, then revive, put +12% block and or +12% revive. If you're a Psyker you already have +40% block on your sword or however the fuck much it is.>push moreNo one pushes 12 times in a row, stamina regens.
>>573899063Block efficiency is a worthless curio perk, and curio perks are insanely valuable and giving one up for a meme like block efficiency is retarded as fuck.Attack speed increases your DPS multiplicatively with other increases, you want the number as big as possible. Those extra 12% are likely worth more than "+20% damage", never mind how making more attacks faster might interact with certain blessings or talents, and technically shit like stagger.Or, practically speaking: If you aren't good enough to run 3 stamina curios on melee scum, I'm declining you and accepting the guy who is.All of this is irrelevant if you're running a Desperado build. Stamina is still good here, but so are both health and toughness.
>>573897869you have nimble 4head you can dodge the entire game>>573897874i would say dont get burstered but now they're fucked
>>573899485>curio perks are insanely valuableAs opposed to curio or weapon blessings.>for a meme like+4% attack speed instead of 1/5 more health>Attack speed increases+4%. Four. Per curio. Blessing.>Those extra 12%*That extra. Total. From 3 wastes curios.But you didn't reply to any of my points and are scrambling. So.
>>573899785I don't need to address your other points, because scum is the only class that can use curio slots to increase DPS and thus should, the DPS increase is actually pretty relevant and you don't see it because you don't understand the math.>If you aren't good enough to run 3 stamina curios on melee scum, I'm declining you and accepting the guy who is.This invalidates everything you have to say, because it remains true in every real world scenario.You can run whatever the fuck you want in your aurics, I don't care. I also prefer health in auric where pubshitters constantly grief me with barrels and bursters. It's only reasonable.
>>573900005>I don't need to address your other points, becauseYou finally realized the math of how bad 4% is, and are scrambling.
>>573900123>you don't see it because you don't understand the math.I already said that, retard-kun.
>>57390017946% more health. Or 8% attack speed.
>>573900252They are not equivalent, what's your point?
>>573900338No they're not, 46% is a lot more.You're starting to get it.
>>573900375>trolling outside of /b/Uh oh
>>573900440>Announcing being wrong and having a meltyUh oh
It's kind of impressive how much importance the most obvious /coopg/ regulars place on being right about things that make minor differences at best with opinions that seem to run counter to mainstream schools of thought almost on purpose.
>>573900368Anon? The whatever gachagger thread is thataway >>>/trash/
This dude is fucking delusional to think vet is above Psyker or Hive Scum.>but he brings so much to the team at teh highest level!!Not disagreeing, but would you rather run a party of 4 pyskers/hivescum or 4 veterans in Havoc 40?That's what I fucking thought.
>>573900787The darktide community is particularly retarded, and the mainstream is often wrong in the most retarded of ways, so it's not that far fetched that the supposed contrarian is actually right and you just don't understand it.The problem is the amount of Dunning-Krugroids confounding any claims because they're legitimately too retarded to have an informed opinion and would never test it for fear of losing izzat.
>>5739008854vet h40 is some of the most fun I've had in this game desu
>>573900885>zealot>nichebooksisters..
>>573900787>mainstream schools of thoughtThe mainstream school of thought is whatever youtuber spouted bullshit, glad we're not doing whatever that is.>>573900885And this is some youtuber spouted bullshit too with a reddit tierlist attached.
>>573900885>This dudeLiterally who?>tier listUnfortunately irrelevant without context. Pubbie randos? 'Cordtranny premades? Randomly throwing that class into any other team? Optimized meme teams?Because the optimized meme team is centered entirely around an ogryn and only brings vet as the ammo bitch and literally nothing else. Zealot is irreplaceable purely for crusher spam to enable the ogryn because chorus is better than anything arbitrator can do. The fourth slot already doesn't matter because you have every role covered, so you can just bring a skittle to claw bosses or whatever, the rumbler already stunlocks everything that isn't LGBT colored.
>>573899063>What's an extra +12%?it's something called Extremely Noticeable. Attack speed is awesome. Also makes it easy to stay above 75% stam for infinity dodges. >>573899485Block efficiency on Arbites is very funny.
>>573901286>Block efficiency on Arbites is very funny.Blockmaxxing, especially with stamina curios, is extremely entertaining. It's unfortunately also rather bad. But definitely less bad than TOOOONKING with the ogryn shield.
>>573901112I know this website has the propensity to form this anti-mainstream vibe but it's kind of funny when people get so concerned with that that they become just as obnoxious as the thing they initially set out to distance themselves from.
>>573901286+12% on top of the already more than fast enough +36%. It's nonsense. It's not noticeable especially with mixed heavy attacks.That comes from losing, again, 46% extra health from just two curios, and you're a melee with 150.
Skitarii bring nothing to the team.
>>573900787It's not unique to /coopg/ either. I checked out the *iscord a few years ago. Same type of arguments back and forth. And not to mention youtubers who supposedly are all part of the top 1% of players, all disagree about weapons, talents, blitzes, abilities, enemies, balance, you name it. Imo this is simply a side effect of Darktide being rather complicated. I'm at 2800 hours now I'm still learning new things. As for curios, use whatever works for (You). I remember taking revive speed before it was cool, people called me retarded, "planning for failure", but it helped me save so many games. If it works it works. Different people have different strengths and weaknesses and should pick curios accordingly.
>>573901674free hacking is not nothing
>>573901674I noticed skitarii with 2x toughness aura to generate quite the silly amount of toughness, especially once you're in the piss.
What do you get out of more health over more toughness? Let's say you take chip damage. If you have higher max hp but less toughness, is the extra health going to offset the increased damage taken because due to less toughness?
>>573901669it's a matter of opinion and playstyle. If I go down as HS it's because I ate an overhead. In which case 46% health does nothing. The attack speed increase is fun, i feel the difference. And once you've beaten the game as much as I have, fun is the only reason to play.
>>573901924So you finally admit it's a bad choice and are arguing because you want a bad silly nonsensical build.See how easy that is?
>>573902050that's not what I said and I'm ntamore dps is good actually, just don't get hit.
>>573901849Here's my school of thought:Most of the chip damage I take is in melee, is only 1 hit, and then gets regenerated very quickly by countless toughness talents. Because I regenerate so much, it might as well be binary, the actual amount only matters against gunners and shooters. Auric shooters are not a threat. Auric gunners are not a threat against 3x20% gunner resist either. In havoc, I'm either in smoke, in a bubble, or the gunners are suppressed, or I have piss toughness on me, or all of the above.I extremely rarely, if ever, take relevant amounts of damage from gunners and shooters, assuming I am able to do anything about it.If I can't do anything about it, my toughness gets shredded to shit anyway. It's likely because I'm grabbed or disabled and also likely in fire at the same time, which also deletes toughness. Fart clouds also delete toughness. Bursters ignore toughness. AIDS puddles and burgle puddles go directly to health. In fact, enemy overheads that might ordinarily kill me through corruption alone, might leave me with a sliver of health now that I am using health curios.If you never take relevant amounts of chip damage, and have lots of toughness generation, the amount of toughness that you have doesn't matter.+% toughness also doesn't (directly) scale with gold toughness, which I don't need in auric, and assume I have whenI need it in havoc. And with gold toughness on I'm fine without the curios.Also I play aggressively forward, so pubtards always ignorantly blow up barrels and bursters near me.
I tried 2 health curios, feels like shit, you take damages as soon as you face a wall of gunnersanother coopg L, probably another trick from the indian poster
>>573902128Yes you're that anon.You get hit. Everyone gets hit. You're untouchable until you aren't, most people in this thread probably are. You manage to not get hit for a long time, but eventually, you get hit. You got hit by the overhead too.>>573901849Against ranged you only need enough to not get instantly shredded in case you misstimed a slide etc.In melee you essentially either have 100% toughness or not 100% toughness.Against other dangers, it's usually health damage.
>>573902361You do this on all classes?
>>573902869>arbitratorI prefer 2 toughness curios after the toughness nerf, but I've contemplated running 2 health instead, in part to support True Grit. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable running 0 toughness in my builds, because arbitrator is the rare exception where you do take some inevitable chip. Especially when forcing objectives with stun immunity.>scumI prefer 3 health, but I mostly play ranged builds.>ogrynThe rare exception where I think running max toughness is quite effective. 300 health is already too much for anything to really harm, even if you go light on DR talents. But I do run max flamer resist, so that does make a big difference.>psykerI'm projectile immune 90% of the time, I don't need toughness. All health.>skitariusI almost always run the toughness aura, so I have such silly amounts of regen, the actual value doesn't matter. All health, both global DR talents at top and bottom.>veteranI try to run at least 1 health curio, but I do feel like vet needs at least 1 toughness, and often wants 1 health. But vet is my least played and worst class, so I can't speak with too much authority.>zealotAll health, with health regen talent. Survives just about fucking anything, including crusher overheads (assuming SoC is available).
>>573888074Shooting a HORDE with the arc rifle is a collosal fucking waste. Shooting a patrol is useful.
>>573903253>and often wants 1 healthone +3 stamina because Deadshot is so strong* my bad, I'm tired.
>>573902361>>573902785I do see the reasoning behind treating toughness as a more binary value. I'll have to try some things out then, thanks.
>>573889726I wish that the snipers used green lasers.
>>573888150halo
>>573902785>Yes you're that anon.it's cute that you think so. Anyone who thinks their curio setup is the "correct" setup, is retarded. You have opinions. But different people play the game differently. People have different strengths and weaknesses. If you're doing better when you run HP, then HP is correct for you. I have tested HS with 3x stam, 3x tough, 3x HP, and different combinations with all of the above. HP didn't do anything for me so I stopped running it. Please understand I value my own real experience from trial and error above some argumentative random on the internet. I have nothing more to say on the matter.
>>573891850I remember the shock trooper recon las crit build from some gook on youtube
>>573898238Strange image.>>573895137Wherever they can be found they usually are deployed yes. >>573896442No, they’re very effective shock troops that commissars usually love due to their loyalty and simple mindedness.
>>573903253>skitariusSkitty is just really weird with its toughness. You have so much regen but not really chunks of it back from anything.Still learning it but it feels like you're not at quite full health as often and take trickles of DR cushioned damage because of that.
any coop games where I can drive super fast car and go vroom vroom VROOOOOM
>>573904127I think toxic commando has a car? but it doesn't have players.Helldivers 2 has a vroom vroom as well
>>573896995I put in negative effort to save the guy when he inevitably fucks up. I will "forget" that the bolt pistol has some splash damage and can trigger barrels when shooting at enemies near the barrel.
Why shitters always struggle in Archivum Sycorax? It's one of my favorite maps
>>573904426I find that wipes on that map mostly happen in the big room with the martyr skull puzzle or the stairway after it
>>573904127it's not coop, though it is mostly bot matches now, Speed Freeks is fun.
>>573901849I don't fear chip damage. I fear things that bypass toughness entirely.
So we all agree 3 toughness is the meta pick and 2 health curios is the "I'm not like the other girls plz notice me" take
>>573905080By the most classical definition of meta (not the retarded backronym), you would be correct. 3 toughness is meta, as in, the thing most people use because they think it to be the most effective.
>>573904426They are just bad.Though I do think that the middle ventilation part is pure cancer if it is a Blight Spreads mission.It's just fucking awful to crawl through.I hate blight so fucking much.
>>573905080Yes.
>>573904426Why do ESLs always struggle with that part of grammar?
>little bitch complaining in chat about inconsequential shit on easier difficulties and the boss died in 10 seconds
>>573905762>Blight change>Ennemies don't leave a puddle of goo on the ground when killed>Instead, you take increased corruption damages (when a poxwalker hit you for example)What do you think?
>>573905762>the middle ventilation part is pure cancer if it is a Blight Spreads mission.With a health curio and corruption resist, even low health classes can kinda just run through most of it. By the time you're done with the objective, zealot aura will have removed the purple. It just requires that you have enough DPS to murder your way through without stopping in a puddle, although I've noticed crusher special's stun explosion also clears the way quite nicely.
>>573905954I don't care lol
Buff ogryn
>>573906097That's ugly. Perhaps you deserve your struggling teammates.
>>573906204why yes they sure are
>>573906665ur mom ugly that's probably not true I only say that for the joke
>Just found out you can still use the single-target claw with the sweep talent
>>573907857Yeah I don't undertsand the utility of the five fingers death punch beside boss damage, another great design by fartshart
is it complete rng whether a mutie throws you or beats you up?
>>573908313If he bumps into a wall after grabbing you he doesn't beat you up. Some objects that are placed in the map and are functionally like a wall do not count as a wall for the mutie.
>>573908313A mutant will throw you if you're near a wall or obstruction when they grab you. They want some space to slam you down and beat you up comfortably.
>>573904127Borderlands
>>573904127Payday 2
>>573904127Dead Island 1 but it's really not that fast and you really don't go vroom vroom and it doesn't even happen that often
Nyehehehe Rolling Steel nyohoho Skibidii
>>573907958Very quickly dispatching single crushers.
>>573904127Actual answer is GTA:O coop missions (heists and such)
>Spawns in with his 16 mutant brothers.>AAAAUAUGHs at youHow do you respond?
I play Psyker because I can't fucking aim. I just point the stick roughly in the bad guy direction and press dodgy buttons.
>>573910053>video game built off of a game engine designed for racing games>the missions with vehicles players can actually drive control like ass
>>573910259The one hit attack on the sweep claw already does that
trying out different skitarii skills since I'm 30 now. how's pic related for an autoaim electro build? kinda like how I can just ignore and run through hordes. also are curio names just for flavor or do they have some hidden bonuses or something?>>573908313depends on whether you're near a wall, hence why if you know you're inevitably gonna get grabbed (wave of mutants) its good to at least find a corner to hide in.
>>573910381I wouldn't say a word to them. I would listen, because that's what nobody else did
>>573910381I unleash the noosy, get grabbed 16 times, but kill each one of them mid-grab.
>>573910409PD2's engine has to be one of the worst ones actually used i a bigger commercial product but it's still somehow better then eu5 slop
>>573910404Skibidii has an aimbot build
>>573910632Let's hope the 64-bit update will be worth the weight.
>>573910675Nyo... It's nyot the same.
>>573910770Yu-uh its the same!
>>573910235Dying Light is better for that I think>>573910310Don’t you need a friend group to get any use out of those
Was I the only anon who ever called Darktide 40click?
>>573911291>Don’t you need a friend groupUmmm yeah it's a coop game. You guys play with friends, right?
>Poxburster dangerously close to the group>"uuur duuur I will shoot it!"
>>573904785I wish they actually got into Ork spirit and focused on making your vehicles as customizable as possible, essentially getting you into the role and making you make shit yourself out of scrap and then compete with what you've made.Like Kithack but focused just on ground vehicles and combat.Or even just have more meaningful gameplay customization of your vehicles like tuning. As it was it was incredibly shallow so I'm not surprised most people abandoned it relatively quick.
>>573911468for me it's being on greatsword melee psyker and impulsively swinging because I die if 3 trash mobs hit me but the poxburster ticking was too quiet so I caught it with the long reach sword before stopping in time
How's the boltgun on havoc?
>>573911468I must admit, I am the retard that has done this sometimes.
>>573910404You don't need good aim to play ogryn either
>>573910550That's what he meant by the single target claw.
>>573911468doesn't he just jump and explode on his own anyway?
>>573913041not when someone pushes it back, me in that case (in every case)
Is it me or charge rate barely does anything for charged shots on plasma?It's very noticeable on snap shots though.
Ranged HCUM is boring as fuck, melee builds is the Patrician's choice
Why the fuck does it take so long to log into this stupid game why the fuck do I even have to "find" randos to connect to the ship
>>573912378please answer
>>573912378>>573913890why not just try it for yourself?
>>573913874So you can see the cosmetics other players have bought, pressuring you into buying some of your own!
>>573913890No, and anybody who answers you is a forever nigger
>alt tab in the meatgrinder>TRUST IN THE EMPEROR>TRUST IN THE EMPEROR>TRUST IN THE EMPEROR>TRUST IN THE EMPERORAm I being brainwashed
>>573913949what do you think shit tastes like
>>573906204Changes that ogryn needs>combine Smash Em and Best Defence>combine Lynchpin and Towering presence, as an additional small buff to Lynchpin make it so that ogryn with the talent can benefit from coherency toughness at all times like skitarii aura.>buff Heavyweight talent to include and apply to all Monstrosities>remove the blitz subnodes from Rock and Box, bake them into the base abilities>bake Stomping Boots, No Pain! and Bullet Bravado into their base abilities>make Loyal Protector's cooldown 45 seconds again>rework Won't Give In talent entirely>make ogryn's auras more accesible, like they are on vet/psyker/zealot>shuffle some of the talents around, currently everything good is in the left side>buff the ripper guns, make them do considerable damage against Unyielding and give them tighter spread so they have more range>buff the light attacks on the Slab Shield so doing combos is worth doing, also get rid of shield stance and give it a power maul already, or make a new variant>buff rest of the ogryn melee arsenal to be on par with pickaxes or at least close to it, shit like cleavers are just bad>buff the accuracy and firing speed on single stubbers hipfire, the reticle blooms so much during automatic fire that it is useless, meaning all the magdumping blessings like blaze away are uselessThose are what I can at least think of.
>>573914053i'd imagine how it smells, not very nicethen again dogs lick their own asses constantly so maybe its not that bad
>Game is 100 JewGas>3/4 of them is used for cosmeticsgrim.
>>573913991the sister of battle cosmetic for zealot is pretty cool
>blood for the emperor skulls for the golden throneCouldn't it be considered heresy to use an archenemy cry like this even if the zealot is "converting" it to good faith?
>>573914301The psykers say infinitely more heretical shit. Both were in a prison ship at the start of the game.
>>573914073>>buff the ripper guns, make them do considerable damage against Unyielding and give them tighter spread so they have more rangeThis should be a mark thing. Ripper guns are supposed to be inaccurate, lore wise. But I can see the appeal of giving Mk6 a reason to exist by making it "the very accurate one". MkV is already reasonably accurate. Mk2 should stay as the wide spread ripper. IMO ripper guns are very close to being good. They are good in Auric but that's not what the game is balanced for any more.
>>573914301most people aren't aware of the connection between that phrase and khorne as the audience is. It's just a bloodthirsty battlecry. Mildly concerning for those in the know, but the Emperor is still in there so its fine and gets a pass.
>>573914301Pretty sure most imperium dudes wouldn't know chaos followers catch phrases that much
>>573914301I don't think the average person in 40k is familiar with that quote. We have a lot more information than them.
>AnymoreIt literally never wasThe game is balanced around heresy and malice.It always has beenIt always will be.
>>573915287Ripper guns need a slug shot mark like in DoW
>not giving me a (You)well fuck you too!
Rude.
>>573915609>Ripper guns need a slug shot mark like in DoWThat's what the mk6 variant should've been.
>>573911468>someone tries to push it someone's going to shoot it>so I might as well shoot it too
>>573911468>Poxburster dangerously close to the group>if nobody notices it will blow them all up when it gets there>try shooting it to save frens>rando immediately dives for it and gets blown off a ledge with an ah-hah-hooey goofy noisewell I tried.
>>573911468I like to push it from afar by shooting a low powered secondary from the electrokinetic staff at it
>>573911468I run the other direction when I hear poxbursters approaching specifically because of this
>>573914053but i did have breakfast this morning?
>>573911468>Poxburster vaguely close to the group>retard breaks formation and runs way too far forward>can't into melee, blocking or dodging though>he does get the poxer, and the immediately goes down to some random trash, or the gunner aiming at him
>>573913707Many people are saying this
>>573915287Tightening the spread on rippers isn't bad, it would keep their niche largely the same.Arguably the Spread issue might get fixed if they just fixed the bug where for some reason rippers have inverted stability stat. Since stability effects both recoil and how much the reticle "blooms" during hipfire.I do still want the Unyielding damage buff, it'd make them actually worth considering to bring into havoc.
>>573910559nightmarishly dogshit, the mere fact that you had the nerve to cook this up, edit this together and post here means you will argue with any critique so I'm not even going to bother to try and give you notes/correct this onethis is good at nothing besides wasting ammo for your teamthanks for showing me how my niggerbrained subhuman a***c m*******m """teammates""" think, I appreciate itfucking hell if that's not a ragebait it's fucking horrifying
>>573910559and no, the curio names are pure flavor only
is there anything a skitarii can do that another class can't do better?
>>573911468yeah cause you're going to fuck up, and my life is worth more than yours in this game, since you will die anywaynext time that happens I want you to know that it was on purpose
>>573917539Double click on the phage tree
>>573909217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3yDf8lkGEY
>>573916282>I am the smartest! I am the main character! If I did not explode them all they would die on their own!
>skitarii hearts visible in captured x-ray>hivescum heart beats at normal rateone job
>>573917804This is true in 99% of matches.
>>573917808Explain.
>>573918041Skits are passionate lovers while scums are sexbots
>>573917808They don't necessarily have full augmetic organs
>>573918041The last thing a skitarii is going to have is a real heart and not an augmetic one.hivescum are hopped-up crackheads so their heart should beat like a hummingbird's.
>>573917808Holy lorelet
>>573918214Every single one has some sort of hookup at or near the heart.
>>573914073>combine Smash Em and Best Defenceno. or move it to keystone, then, it's balanced for its effects>combine Lynchpin and Towering presencesure>as an additional small buff to Lynchpin make it so that ogryn with the talent can benefit from coherency toughness at all times like skitarii aura.>small bufflolno>buff Heavyweight talent to include and apply to all Monstrositiesno.>remove the blitz subnodes from Rock and Box, bake them into the base abilitiesyeah, hard agree>bake Stomping Boots, No Pain! and Bullet Bravado into their base abilitieswhy? maybe on the charge ability, but the other 2 are fine, they're strong already, you seem to not understand that you're paying for a stronger effect with more points, it's not just going to waste>make Loyal Protector's cooldown 45 seconds againnope, it's already up all the time>rework Won't Give In talent entirelyyeah, it's dogshit pointless and never taken>make ogryn's auras more accesible, like they are on vet/psyker/zealotI miss when auras were more build-dependent, but following their own logic they should, so yeah?>shuffle some of the talents around, currently everything good is in the left sideyup>buff the ripper guns, make them do considerable damage against Unyielding and give them tighter spread so they have more rangeimpossible to do - Ripperguns are fun, iconic, and it would be a net positive. Meaning the eternal sw*de (may Allah forgive me for uttering this word) won't allow it our of sheer spite.>buff the light attacks on the Slab Shield so doing combos is worth doing, also get rid of shield stance and give it a power maul already, or make a new variantyes to the lights (very much yes), and keep the stance - but, as you said, split it to marks. One with club, one with the paul.
>>573918836That's just the thingamajigs
>>573914073>buff rest of the ogryn melee arsenal to be on par with pickaxes or at least close to it, shit like cleavers are just badyupit's mostly just cleavers and shovels, the rest is pretty good>buff the accuracy and firing speed on single stubbers hipfire, the reticle blooms so much during automatic fire that it is useless, meaning all the magdumping blessings like blaze away are uselesshard agreethey should make it into an actual stubber machine gun that can occasionally snipe, instead of the current retardation that we have.Would be fun, but as per fun - see above.Overall solid rant, I don't think you missed anything, I rate it 7.5/10
>>573911434… No.
+dodge range curio when?
You are not gonna tell anyone that I miss the input 5 times right? Since we are butt buddy...
>>573914135I read somewhere they actually evolved to not be able to taste it so they could do that but I don’t know how true it is>>573914301Like everyone else said the only people likely to be familiar with that phrase are seasoned space marines and inquisitors and the like
>>573918836Damn Mechanicus "humans" really are abominations. Treaty of Mars was a mistake, Emperor should have treated them the same as heretics
>>573920223What if an inquisitor hears it?
Imagine if the game had attackspeed or crit curios
>two handed melee weapons are very strong in melee but you are restricted to a one handed ranged weapon and must switch to it from your melee weapon>two handed ranged weapons are very strong at range but you are restricted to a one handed melee weapon and must switch to it from your ranged weapon>choosing both a one handed ranged weapon and melee weapon allows you to use both simultaneously without switching between them but you lack the strength at range or melee that a specialized weapon loadout would haveThis is a core feature the game should have developed around.Having to juggle between a bolt pistol and a chainsword is gay.
please heal
>>573919681With how good the extra dodge range node is on hive scum stacking a curio that gives it would be insane.
>>573920508
>>573920508i would still take 2 health 1 stam
Did they nerf havoc or something? I played a lot when it was brand new, then took a long break, and now im back, and it's pretty easy? Or maybe the playerbase got better...
I should stop calling my teammates "retards" in chat.
>>573921206They super nerfed it, now every retard sports the "True Survivor" title. I have it but I prefer the "roleplay" titles
>>573921230i've tried calling my teammates imbeciles because that's what my zealot calls them but most people don't get the reference so they take it personally
>>573919040Of course! The blessed thingamajigs!!!! PRAISE BE
>>573921206>playerbase got better
>>573921445Stupid rabbit
>>573921445my friends call me the joker
>>573921445no im pretty sure I got worse
>>573921206The latter.Season 1 havoc when it released was unironically way more easy difficulty wise, the only threat it had to offer was shooters. Remember that when the mode released, it was somewhat hard to find a group that didn't try to play it like fucking auric and scatter like cats, this mentality is still seen in havoc 20-30 but it was just the norm when havoc released.
>>573921862To add to this, join some random havoc 25-29s pugsI can guarantee you, it is the most hard content the game has to offer. It's like nothing changed at all.
>>573911468>ping burster out of sheer habit>the fucking skull shoots itIT WAS AN ACCIDENT OKAY
>>573921206They changed HOW it is difficult. In season 1 a pack of shooters could instakill your whole team if you didn't creep through the whole mission with bubble spam, now there are way more boss spawns, mixed horde threats, and a lot of the new modifiers cause way more problems than blight spreads and pus hardened ever did.
>>573922072i may have done this about 100 times
>>573922072>ping daemonhost out of sheer habit>the fucking skull shoots itAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>573922316arent companions programmed not to pounce/shoot unagro'd deamonhosts
>>573922316Nnyyyeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmm companions do not attack daemonhosts if issued with an attack ping unless they are fully awakened, I demand that this filthy LIAR gets sent to the rape chamber to be raped for all of eternity for the crime of LYING
>>573922316i liked the joke
>>573922449>>573922467cooked his lying ass
>>573922449>>573922467There may be an exception for the noospheric skull, all I know is that I tagged it and then the DH was on my ass.
>>573922635it is possible that a teammate woke it, then you pinged it, which made it switch aggro to you. I've seen it happen
>>573914073>>buff the accuracy and firing speed on single stubbers hipfire, the reticle blooms so much during automatic fire that it is useless, meaning all the magdumping blessings like blaze away are uselessYou're using the Achlys aren't you? Because it's honestly not THAT bad on the Krourk, which is supposed to be the one for magdumping.
>>573922762One of the others did leave the instant it shrieked, so I guess it must have been the worst possible timing. That's good to know.
Damn, the playerbase of Darktide seems a bit... retarded?
>>573922938Lots of new people right now, but also yes for the rest of the time.
>>573922994They don't have to play auric if they're that bad, are they stupid?
Why are some mastery skins just red reskins with numbers but others are actually fully unique weapon models?Is it planned that every weapon will get a unique mastery skin model and phase out the lazy reskins?
>>573891737we should join chaos because the moebians aesthetically MOG us
>>573923090It's a pride thing, main character syndrome. They hit their skill limit before the maximum difficulty? Them? No, everyone else sucks.
>>573922072I've done this too many times.
>>573921445We need bunny people abhumans
>>573923242no they don't
>>573923242is he russian
>>573923242That's a fucking lie
>>573923720gay bar bouncer
>>573923242Not so fast, heretic...
>not giving the crowbar skullcrushersomeoen nuke sweden for me plz
>>573923242I honestly wouldn't mind some Moebian 6th cosmetics.Like that mauler armor would be really cool on zealot. Just remove the spikes/chaos influence.
>>573923242I already stole their drip
>>573911468>Poxburster and trapper approaching the team>ping the trapper so that nooskull will kill it>somebody else obliterated the trapper 0.0001 femtoseconds before I pinged>now the poxburster is pinged
>>573913874Because you don't load into the lobby as an individual. It loads you in as groups of players and you're waiting for the consolenigger to finish loading.
>>573924135>>573923242>I already stole their dripI despise that we can cosplay as the enemy.
>>573924104spikes aren't inherently chaos anyway
Feels like trapper exists to make sure you're not having too much fun.
>>573925031silent poxbursters as well
>>573925031No that's the vanguard
>>573925031>>573925051>>573925128Swedistan's humiliation ritual, plz understand it's cultural
>>573923376>regular clothes with a couple chains and a mask
>>573924018How do I make the crowbar good
>>573925128Is there anything actually efficient at killing them? There is no depth to dealing with their bullshit. They just have a ton of HP. Ratclick shieldvermin could be obnoxious, but you could outplay those fucks if you knew what you were doing.
>>573925391>Is there anything actually efficient at killing them?I just pull out my arc rifle and zap them. High impact weapons also kinda rape them, like anything arbitrator or ogryn. Staff psyker barely acknowledges them. Greatsword beam does a chunk. Flames don't discriminate.
>>573925031for me its the dead silent maulers throwing out overheads while their models are completely obscured by shit in front of them
>>573925391>Is there anything actually efficient at killing them?More or less every blunt weapon.
>>573925391Haven't found anything yet, maybe DoT effects like bleed, burn and tox will work better. I should do a test run and see how well the Scum's boom tube does against them, surely they won't survive that.
>>573925391Any ranged weapon that can put out a lot of damage quickly tends to stagger them and let you unload into them to kill then in like a second or two.Almost every melee weapon will take a long time to kill just one vanguard.
>>573925619Pretty sure boom tube kills them, but that's kind of a waste. Chain weapon specials seem effective, but >chain weapon specialsI wish that they were ratclick bulwarks.
>>573925391the crusher will instantly shatter their shield on an energized hit, which cuts half the problem out. Eviscerator perfect strike gets to ignore the shield to beat down the hp directly, which again speeds it up a little
high intensity damnation is harder than havok
>>573923763You'd know all about those, wouldn't you.
>>573925983I might need to try the crusher again, but then you're still stuck wailing away ~2k fucking HP with the damn crusher. It doesn't help when 10 of those fucking vanguards all run up to you and then the rest of the team just proceeds to speed run the rest of the map. These vanguards aren't remotely challenging but it will take time to to chew through 20k fucking hp of "trash mobs" solo.
hey guys I have an idea what if we made an enemy with a shield so its like you gotta attack them not on the shield, but then as a twist we also made it so that their head also has a special modifier to take half damage with no stagger too? Don't bother replying to this post btw I'm going to be stepping away from my computer for 2 months so I won't see whatever you say
>>573926231The crusher kinda sucks but it's still an incredible stagger stick for havoc support. Don't bother if you want a good weapon, you'll just frustrate yourself. Yes, even on arbitrator.
>>573925391Pysker staffs, ogryn rumbler, arc rifle etc. Basically anything that doesn't care about shields in the first place. When they show up in numbers from 1-4 they can be dealth with reasonably quick using most melee weapons too. But I have started to run in to situations where I get a spawn of 10+ to deal with and that's just cancer.>try to dodge and flank-strike one>they are so tightly packed their shields just overlap and you constantly strike them>have to just slowly break every shield before you can start killing themIt's a shit enemy and the only people who like them are the people playing classes and builds that didnt care about what they were fighting in the first place.
>>573923090>are they stupid?yep
>scoreboarde postanHolding down m1 with the Arc Rifle for the entire I-II-V-E-G.
>>573926386I still think that they should have copied ratclick bulwarks and/or the ratclick shielded storm vermin. Those enemies were similar to vanguards in that they were tanky when part of a horde and made it harder for you to just mindlessly cleave everything, but you could actually just outplay them and quickly kill them if you could isolate or outflank them.
>>573925619DoTs do work well since they always do damage against the base armor type of an enemy which are unarmoured and flak armored for the dreg and scab vanguards, respectively. I really wish they were elites so they'd proc stuff like Kinetic Flayer and Perilous Combustion though.
>>573926723Build
>>573900885I would definitely not run a party of 4 psykers4 ogryns maybe
>>573926723>didn't collect the most diamantineWashed up.
I have truly become no-keystone-veteran pilledThe only thing I miss is focus target making people fight the right karnak twin
>>573928168what benefits do you get from running no keystones on vet?
>>573926315>>573926315the crusher isn't that bad on damage as long as it is consistently energized to start its combos. Given it is also an aoe debuff/stagger stick it's not that much worse in general kill times.
>>573928460One more point in talent nodes that are potentially, and often actually, more impactful than the keystones.
>>573926723incredible
>>573928168just to make sure, its the ranged twin right?
>>573928616Like what? What's your current build?
Uhhhh I just finished the campaign and saw the cutscene where that traitor got shot. Wtf is this? From what I understand the game asks me if I want to play the campaign again?? Why would I do that? What am I missing here
>>573927174If you're going to shoot the entire game might as well move points from the bottom part and take voltaic emitter. Makes arc rifle even better.
>>573928805It is indeed simply giving you the option of playing the campaign again.
>play ogryn>activate power maul>hit once>delete or heavy stagger all enemies on the screen
which one to 20 next
>>573928916This is really weird game design wow. The option for new game+ is normally good but in a game where you can just always repeat the missions whenever you want?
>>573928805skip that shit son
>>573929462if you want an actually usdful weapon, reli blade. if you want to be a useless waste of space, thunder hammer
>>573929479It's mostly for when you make a new character.You'll always be asked that from now on.
>>573929462Chainaxe. Give it slaughter and headtaker and go wild.
>>573929462smellic blade then shmaul
>>573929564>>573929592>>573929616thanks, ill do relic blade then chainaxe
>>573929576That I can understand but not literally after the ending cutscene kek. I thought it might be about another campaign that comes after it first
>>573929462Relic blade if you want to have fun with a good weapon.Thunder hammer if you want to learn the jankiest, most questionable melee weapon in the game, but also dopamine bonk bosses.Chain axe is neat, but make sure you use whatever mark bites against armor on light attacks.Shock Maul requires Skullcrusher else it's unusable, so keep that in mind.My vote is relic blade, since it's your best class exclusive. Aim for something like picrel. Those are the best damage blessings. Flak can be unyielding if you intend to use it with stealth. Heat management 76% is an autistic breakpoint, doing 60% mobility is just fine, don't worry about it.
>>573929704Just your usual swedish shenanigans.
>grinding new character>progressing through damnation>win a game>hit quickplay>loading takes forever>YOU HAVE FAILED THE EMPEROR>game freezes on the defeat screen forever>alt+f4>restart>quickplay again>YOU HAVE FAILED THE EMPEROR>progress bar through damnation is set back as if I had actually lost two games>didn't even get to load into the mapTHANK YOU SWEDEN
I hate Sweden!
>>573931321Yep, I think everyone that plays havoc has experienced something similarly fucking gay with the game just cheating you and then punishing you for it.>entire lobby eats error 2014>lobby is now empty>this means the mission auto fails>everyone loads back in, can't reconnect because the mission already failed>everyone gets an L
>>573925391arc rifle melts them flamer melts themrecon lasgun usually hits their head and feets and sets them on fireif you are on ogryn the single target attack chain (light-light-heavy) on the power maul 3 hits them on auric IIRCpowered up mode relic blade, power sword and arc maul kill them pretty quickly if you use the single target attack chain
Do you think playing both VT2 and Darktide on a regular basis would be detrimental? Like creating bad habits from the differences and whatnot.
>>573932157Too much backwards dodging in VT, too much blocking in DT?
>>573925031>double poxburster spaced exactly so that the second one is jusr outside the push hitbox>their sounds link up so you think there is only one
>>573932157I've swapped back and forth between them. The main thing is there is no sprinting/sliding in ratclick, but your default running speed is faster in ratclick. Ammo is rarer in ratclick so you might be a bit fucked if you're one of the ranged spam niggers who demands all of the map's ammo bags to avoid meleeing ever.
>>573892983>>573893069Is there some reason why people in havoc run brown or blue? in auric everyone's on green.
>>573932157If anything playing both in parallel helped me develop skills that are generally applicable to tide games much faster than if it had been only one.My only issue with swapping between them was that having crouch and jump on different keys messed me up, so now I just have jump on alt and crouch on space for both.
UP IN DA CLUB!
I'm swedish, say something nice about me
>>573933282>Is there some reason why people in havoc run brown or blue? Yes, havoc players are much more likely to actually understand the weapon marks and test which one is best, and have done those tests, and correctly concluded that the green one is dogshit.Auric babbies haven't figured that out yet.
If you could swap the chaos god theme in this game to any of the other 3 which one would you go for? Guessing most people would pick slaneesh
>>573898937zealot has wounds that basically act as mini toughness bars if you pick that wound gating talent so it makes sense to woundmaxx. also for martyrdom obviously, it just doesn't make sense without woundsfor everything else toughness is the retard proof pick. being able to make it to cover when you fuck up is going to save the typical retard such as myself more often than anything else
>>573933282Blue has the highest close range dps and fully stacks infernus the fastest. There are more things to shoot and they must die faster.Brown has the highest ammo efficiency and as you've already read hits more things per shot. Havoc removes 60% of the ammo refund from pickups.Green is still a fine pick though, the las pistol anon is just a little too opinionated for reasonable discussion.
>>573934081For martyr build zealot is 3 wound curios better than 2 + something else? With 2 you go to 6 which lets you cap martyrdom (caps at 5)
>>573932625>Ammo is rarer in ratclick so you might be a bit fucked if you're one of the ranged spam niggers who demands all of the map's ammo bags to avoid meleeing ever.lolwatThere's lots of ranged weapons with infinite ammo in ratclick>all of Sienna's staves>moonfire bow>javelin>deepwood staff>throwing axes>drakefire gun/pistols>arguably the engineer's crank gun
>>573934320The advantage of 7 wounds over 6 is that when you get the maximum heal from holy relevant you're still at maximum martyrdom stacks, and in general you get to have a slightly more forgiving health buffer to play with.
Why are the twins always at the end of Clandestium Gloriana in Havoc mode, on the stairs leading up to the end event? Is it intentionally scripted this way or just dumbass Fatshark coding?
the decimator blessing should either be reworked or trashed
>>573934320by woundmaxx I meant 2 wound curios for full martyrdom. but I guess you can go 3 for shits and giggles I'm not your dad
>>573934725I had twins spawn at the very start before, out on the rafters. Not really a big deal with a good team thankfully, but the shield explosion can be scary if you're out of position.
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>>573935057Big power boost while you're hitting things, drops if you swing at air. Seems fine to me, generally stays up in combat.
>>573934725Why do the twins sometimes spawn the moment you load into consignment yard and rush you down before the first drop down? Why do some heinous rituals only trigger when you're already hugging the cultist while some turn aggressive and summon before you could ever realistically reach them?My guess is it's incompetence.
>>573935540It never goes past 3 stacks because your teammates are also killing things
>>573935772Have you considered raising the difficulty?
>>573935772must be nice having teammates that always cover you like that. not in my games thoughbeit
Dude said this after meleeing a poxburster, can someone translate?
>>573935165I wasn't asking for permission I was asking which one was better. Jesus.
>>573936436he said >a ukraine thread died for this
>>573934476ammo is rarer in ratclick. The kind of yippekeaiayyy magdumping that ranged specialists in shopclick can accomplish largely can't be accomplished in ratclick. The mage careers can do a lot of casting like psyker, but they have to fuck around with the heating/cooling song and dance. Drakfire pistols are mage-light and they've alaways been meme choices. Flamethrowers go through the same mage heat/cool cycle and are outright detrimental to the team outside of highly organized play at modded difficulties. The javelin/axe and moonfire spend more time recalling their weapons/cooling down than they do shooting, and are suited for long term endurance where they sporadically snipe a small number of high value targets.The only real outlier is the crankgun when you have a team that babysits your ass. The crankgun can magdump all damn day. I stand by my statement that by and large ammo is more precious in ratclick and you're generally fucking retarded to waste it on trash.Which I guess reminds me:>>573932157do not use flamethrowers in ratclick. They're fucking memes in ratclick. Ratclick doesn't have toughness. It relies upon temporary HP generation, which is largely acquired by fighting in melee. In most situations it's not much different than regenerating toughness via combat, but some fucking nigger using a flamethrower to vaporize all of the completely harmless clan rats can completely deny your team valuable THP.
>>573936436>I said:>Come in!>Don't just stand there!
>>573936720... but he was going in the wrong direction, that's why he was alone
>>573936436Did you try putting it into google translate?
Is the rippergun good?
>>573936863I can't write in moon runes, I tried chatGPT and Grok and both gave me totally different translations
>quickplay>spawn into nondescript dimly lit corridor>one teammate is dead>one is down the hallway in one direction>the other is down the hallway in the completely different direction>that moment of confusion where I try to figure out which map that I'm on (none of them have memorable names) and which dimly lit nondescript corridor that I'm in.ratclick had better map design.
>>573936989You can drag and drop images into google translate.
>>573936838¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's a doggy dog world anon
The rippergun...
>>573936989do you not have phones, google lens translates this for you
The rippergun!
>>573936915It's good on malice
THE RIPPERGUN!
>>573932157the big difference in combat is the temp hp. VT2 if you take a bad hit, you can pull out of it simply by fighting harder. Hp is a resource to spend and gain as needed.In Darktide, if you take that bad hit there is no recovery until you reach a healing source. hp is a resource to be protected. you must play to preserve your remaining hp and be more cautious of things that can drop your toughness protection.
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>>573925391Skitarii arc gimmick, transblades, or chordclaw sweep. How convenient that fatshit sells you the solution to a problem they created.
>>573937343I've rippertarded all the way up to maelstroms. It's fine as long as you don't rippertard too close to the sun. Don't bring it to havoc though.
>>573937643>How convenient that fatshit sells you the solution to a problem they created.I don't think that fatshart is competent enough to do that. I think that they just halfassed the vanguard design and went on vacation.
>>573937480toughness will reduce damage by 100% at 100%, your ability to keep at or close to 100% is significantly easier than vt2, where you need to back off sometimes in vt2, but in darktide focuses on high aggression
Tell me... tell me about the rippergun....
>>573937713Nta, but yeah, it's my favorite ogryn gun too. Been using it from since launch pretty much.Have brought it to havoc but it does really pale in comparison to rumbler and grenade gauntlet.
>>573937735Many such cases
>>573933590You guys were a military and cultural powerhouse once upon a time
>>573937087That’s not the saying…>>573936578Kek
>>573922785>You're using the Achlys aren't you?Yeah, but yes I'm still bitter about it.>ogryn is clearly bracing the gun by holding the handle>the aim reticle still blooms like a mother fucker for no reasonLike it should already be enough of a downside that the achlys mk2 has a shitty fire rate and a very small magazine, they don't need to make the auto fire on it entirely useless by making it less accurate than Stevie Wonder with parkinsons.
>>573937713You were carried
>>573938274It exists?
>>573937971That entirely depends on your weapon and THP talent. Some careers have an easier time replenishing THP than others. The careers with "THP on stagger" that had access to weapons like the great hammer or flail could generate ludicrous amounts of THP in the middle of a horde.>checking Ranald's gift>the Stagger THP talent now replenishes 0.25 HP on killing blowSince when did they buff it? The fact that it didn't give THP on kill used to be one of its only weaknesses, but it only came into play on baby difficulties. The main problem with THP on stagger was that it doesn't give you much of anything vs monsters.I do not agree with your statement of "your ability to keep at or close to 100% is significantly easier than vt2" when it comes to something like IB/FK/GK/WP/UC balls deep in a horde with weapons like greathammer/bret sword+shield/flaming flail/shield+flail/twin hammers.
>>573932157I think the biggest difference is actually the teamplay. Ratclick relies on good team coordination, while in Darktide it's often optional since many classes are pretty much able to function autonomously. Reasons being, in ratclick, there's friendly fire, specialists that can't easily be taken out by melee-only careers, the way THP works that someone else already mentioned, and resources being scarce compared to Darktide. All things that need people to cooperate as a team to a much greater degree. And on top of that, if you want the best loot, you MUST carry all the books to the finish. Another thing that's optional in Darktide, since the books in it just give a bit of extra crafting materials.
>>573938943yeah, but thats only specific careers that are tanky, where as its a universal constant for everybody that if theyre killing, theyre living
>>573886898For the trillionth time, tabletop powerlevels are not the canon ones, the books are.
>>573938730Yeah I know. Carried by the ripper gun!
>>573938895The Rippergun?
>>573939138Some classes struggled more than others at replenishing THP. Some of the careers that only had access to "on crit/headshot" and "on kill" could have difficulty regenerating THP.Looking over the careers, that was shade, sott, WHC, and BH. WHC can mitigate that by popping ult and going to town with guranteed crits in an emergency. SOTT also didn't have trouble since her presence in the party boosts healing rates anyway. Shade can just fuckoff and be invisible when she's in danger. So that basically just leaves bounty hunter as the squishy one that doesn't have an emergency get out of jail free button.
>>573937971staying at 100% is easier in darktide, recovering from 10% is much easier in vermintide.
>>573939409Ye the rippergun.
>>573937079>he doesn't instantly recognize every corridor in the gamehow's the weather in malice
>>573938634Long time ago now
>>573939770I loved this talent on necromancer. You could gain so much THP from those ghost balls. Which means more casting, which means more heat, which means more ghost balls.
>>573939768They've re-worked those THP talents since.The one that grants THP on crits now also grants a bit on every melee swing. SOTT is also busted as fuck if you're in a team with an ironbreaker, since she gets all the excess THP from the entire party and ironbreaker generates tons of excess THP just from never taking serious damage.
>>573940117> since she gets all the excess THP from the entire partyI forgot about that passive. I knew that she wasn't squishy since she gained THP like crazy, but I forgot precisely why despite not having the best THP talents.
>the millisecond someone separates a bit every character starts to spam lines about sticking together and the game starts spamming trappers out of losFatshark really has a giant fucking fetish for the whole sticking together thing.
>hit quickplay>twins mission>spawn at the elevator right before the arena>two skittles and bot>a zealot spawns in too>laugh about the skip in the chat>skittles tell me "don't worry about it">go into arena>it's a fucking massacre>in the end only me and the zealot are left standing>get some fancy sekrit mode penance and icondidn't even know this was in the game. skittles got carried tho.
>>573932157Block cost reduction is actually a useful stat in ratclick since it was easier to stack it to stupid high values. IIRC Handmaiden can achieve 90% block cost reduction between the weapon stats, her necklace, and a talent. Stamina is also more plentiful since dodging doesn't prevent you from regenerating stamina.
>>573936436
>>573940782>But why?
>>573940381have you seen this thing called coherency toughness regeneration? might help to try it some time maybe you won't go down alone on the first floor of the vigil station final event like you always do and I won't have to crawl down there to fish you out from a blob of crushers and maulers
I don't know why, but I just can't handle Auric. I don't know what I'm doing wrong - I'm reliably coasting through Damnation even when it's Hi-Intensity or Shock Trooper, but Auric just kicks my fucking ass. How do I improve, what kind of tricks am I missing? I really want to improve, but I drag teams down no matter how hard I try.
>>573941291who are you playing and with what weapons
>>573940234I probably wouldn't have remembered that either, until I noticed this passive in the Skitarius talent tree works in a similar way, except backwards.
The burster change has only served to make bursters worse and more cancer. Have lost few H40s to complete bullshit.>burster is running towards me>i'm the closest player>go to push the burster when it's close, push it twice in quick succesion even>fucking nothing happens>it just keeps going and explodes in my face>other time go to push>it just phases through me and runs toward a team mate>team mate obviously pushes it away to not take damage (I don't blame him)>I get exploded insteadLike why even do this retarded change? The way the bursters used to work was just fine. Were they buggy at times? Yes, but they were 1000x less shit and less bugged than they are now.Somebody punch Sven, he deserves it.
>pack of 7 crushers>are you ready to rpg?>0 deaththey changed something?
>>573941418Does this talent synergize with that one veteran talent? You know the one where it gives team mates 20-25% of all the toughness veteran generates.Could you turn this into a positive feedback loop?
>>573940381You mean you don't have a fetish for gay orgies in the shower room of an abandoned factory? You are so fucking DECLINED
>>573941625I don't think so because I think it would have happened already by accident and then we'd have clickbait youtube videos about it.
>>573941554So it's not me either?I've had my ogryn grenades just not work for some retarded reason.Like I throw it into middle of a mixed horde of elite and it fails to kill them.
>>573941291I had the same problem when I first played vet into damnation starting out and it was mostly the fact that my horde clear was no longer hitting one hit breakpoints and I wasn't used to dodging, blocking and pushing my way out of trouble. also, depending on your build and curio setup you will eventually hit a point where a single gunner can hose you down and kill you almost instantly if you're not dodge sliding and that's a big filter momentmy suggestion would be to learn to play other classes and builds, get more experience in the game. if you've been doing one build only so far it will force you to break your current habits and learn more mechanics
>>573941370Veteran, Dueling Sword+Plasma Gun. Build picrel.
>phage tree mission with hestia and the imperial nobles>nobles go "eugh stupid heretical peasants we need to just explode this whole block">hestia goes "well you see heresy is often motivated by their treatment, we need to reach out and improve things"What is the point of this? Obviously heresy is motivated by their terrible conditions, we know that, but saying that in the position of an inquisitor's retinue is dangerous thinking, and why would the lady who is all about calling half the members sinners, while being positive to the zealots and worst arbites talking about it? Is it just to make her seem nicer since she doesn't narrate for many missions, or to give a perspective of the nobility and how they behave (which is just the same as how they behave literally all the time in 40k)
>>573941625I don't think it's counted as a generating event under the hood. The game registers specific event triggers, and those increment people's toughness counters one at a time, looking at modifiers. The skitarii domes someone, triggers an event, that triggers some toughness. It doesn't trigger another event on the vet.
>>573941882>Dueling Sword+Plasma GunI think even I will have troubles in auric playing shitty 3 years old meta
Best vet personality?
>>573941882Is that fucking tranners build?
>>573941940She just hates the nobility in general, which isn't out of the ordinary since most nobles in the Imperium tend to be comically evil/incompetent fucktards. You can just interpret it as her taking shots at the nobles in backhanded ways without getting her in trouble.
>>573938943>Since when did they buff it?Actually, it was a nerf to stagger thp and a buff to cleave and execute thp. You get way less thp from staggering attacks and shield bashes now.
>>573941940>and worst arbitesYou picked the Maul personality, huh?
>>573941882build is workable all the way to the top but you need to learn how to stay clear of horde and gunners. what exactly is killing you the most? gunners, melee mix, armor blobs? in the lower difficulties you can chop your way out of any trash mob but at auric/damnation you start having to kite and push cycle hordes with the dueling sword. also just in general you should just be a lot more mindful of what your team is doing and trying to not get isolated when you're out of grenades and ammo
>>573942202nah that build will work fine in auric if you keep moving. not optimal but definitely survivable.
>>573941940i always saw it as a "diplomatic" way to tell the nobles that they can't just blame the peasantry for this debacle and pretend they had no hand in this.
>>573942221Male Professional Though male cutthroat has the best voice of command lines
>>573942202What’s the meta then? Fast melee for hordeclear, plasma for long range elite sniping and kraks for Crushers, yeah? Are there weapons better at it now?>>573942271dunno who that is.>>57394239850/50 between getting memed by the Overhead Organisation (Maulers, Crushers) while handling a horde, and getting fucked by flamers.
>>573942303Sure, but the nobility are in their positions thus because of the God-Emperor (supposedly) so to insult nobles is to insult him, very medieval stuff, so it's bizarre to hear it from her>>573942345Of course, I always pick the cruelest personality
>>573941940>What is the point of this?To show that Imperium largely creates its own problems. Chaos is a good example of this.Chaos is only as rampant as it is within the Imperium solely due to Imperium's own actions and retardation. The brutality and inhumanity they subject their citizens to and in general treating them like cattle, is a key driving factor as to why they join up with fringe cults.Also in general treating the citizens like shit applies lot of mental stress on them which can then lead them to start hearing the whispers of Chaos.
>>573940381>*plink*>WHO?? WHOOOOO WAS SHOOTING ARMOR?
>>573942749>Of course, I always pick the cruelest personalityAnd you're surprised that sister Prine reacts to that?
>>573940381And that's a good thing. Look at the opposite case in something like helldivers where splitting off and leaving one player to suffer the enemy spawns is actively encouraged.
>>573942834She reacts *positively* to the Maul
>>573942965That's surprising, what the hell?
>>573942221Male loose cannon. He's just such a bastard, but in a funny way.Second place goes to male cutthroat. People justifiably love to hate on the Cadia namedropping but every line that isn't that is really good, especially how he gets along with ogryn.
>>573941291>>573941882maybe take some toughness on the treeyou dumbass fucking niggeryou pick that build when you're taking less than 10 damage during the entire auric m-storm mission, and actually do not need the toughness anymorefucking fake ass Tranner wannabe malicelet foh unc
>>573942650>getting fucked by flamers.you're the vet. your job is to shoot them before they become a problem. that's also one thing that changes as the game increases in difficulty I guess, flamers go from a nothingburger to a priority threat. so much so that you should drop anything short of a trapper about to shoot or a dog about to pounce and switch your attention to removing the flamer ASAP. especially if there's a lot of shit on screen and there's more than one, they are one of the more common team wipe triggers.>overheadmovement and practice, manage your stamina and dodges (they are not the same resource, you push/block while recharging dodges and dodge while regenning stamina) to stay out of their way. don't let yourself get cornered.I personally found that spending a few dozen hours on zealot really really improved my melee pathing skills >what's the meta>hordecleardueling sword has garbage hordeclear in the higher difficulties, it's a headshot sniper weapon for killing elites. the most braindead easy melee on vet is power sword with the blessing that gives you three hits per charge.
SVENMOTHERFUCKER
>>573943317the virgin skitussy with weak ass arms vs the chad poxbusta with his potent girth
>>573943220Power sword has absolutely ASS mobility and cucks anyone who doesn't want to *activate power sword*Knife or shock maul for braindead auric vet.
>>573941291>pox walkers chip damaging you to deathBe more proactive in blocking, pushing, and dodging consistently. >boss kicking your assLoad into low difficulty with a devils claw and learn how to solo them>specials raping youYou just have to stay on it with killing them as soon as they spawn. Even good players can suffer from this when the rest of the team are shitters>shooters/gunners/snipers bullying youYou should be slidemaxxing if you even think there could be a shooter nearby>ragers/crushersKeep your distance, learn to dodge them. When enough elites pile up you basically NEED some sort of ability/blitz to deal with them unless you are crazy good.
>>573943317nowhere near close enough to push that with the blades.
perhaps adding a bunch of voice lines that tell players to shoot poxbursters was unwise
>>573943317The poxburster locked on to your team-mate and that's why you couldn't push it?
>>573942842Could be a middleground between the 2 extremes methinks.
>>573943474knife has worse crowd control than dueling sword if you're struggling into blobs it's not the natural pick>mobilityrun a pistol or summat>shock maulmore of a defensive choice it takes longer to kill shitall these weapons work and the dueling sword works too. I am simply pointing out that if you want horde clear specifically the light fast low stagger low cleave weapons are not the best tool
>>573943606Interestingly enough they started fixing that with hive scum, who have voice lines that tell you to shove them and fuck off. Clearly they know those lines are stupid, they're just too lazy to go back and fix them on 5 old classes.
>>573943794Shock maul cleans hordes relatively fine in aurics, only slows down H30+. I do have a massive hate boner for the power sword so I could be biased.I recommended knife because I still think bolt pistol/knife is vets best build due to the sheer mobility out the ass you get to simply fuck off from any situation you don't like. But I haven't played it in havoc since the tranny strike nerf so I might be wrong.
>each player has a different class in quickplay
>>573944094knife is best for clearing the horde (by running away from it and making it someone else's problem)shock maul is better than dueling sword or knife for actually fighting the horde but it's not going to have the kind of DPS you can get out of spamming the power sword charged attacks. good overall defensive utility though, easy to play with. of all the weapons I've tried on vet it's the one that I usually end up taking the least damage on.
>>573944495>quickplay as knife lasgun veteran>three shiv scums>hi-intensity engagement zonekthanksbye
>>573944495>each player is a different class>they're not using the meta voices>hear new dialogue for the first time in a month
>>573942965She also has positive reactions to the Agitator, you know the murderhobo who burnt down a whole hab block based on just suspicions of heresy? And so does Melk.
>>573945163>the meta voicesthe what now? come on
>>573945396>murderhobo who burnt down a whole hab block based on just suspicions of heresyBased alert
>>573945565>french lady psyker >cadian trooper, either gender >bodyguard ogrynevery class has the reddit picks for the voices
>>573945565What? Are you denying that there are voices that arent picked more than others?
>>573944727shock maul also has very comfy attack chains I find.
>sniper at the end of rolling steel shooting the psyker the moment he jumps into the valkyrie, killing him instantly
>>573945789>>cadian trooper, either genderI thought the female loose canon was the most popular one
my last penance and i cant do it. i am playing in auric
>>573946092360 no scoped
>>573946246I got it day one, sucks for you, skill issue :)
>>573946246go into "high-intensity" games not "high-intensity shock trooper" or any other modifierthat one has the highest density of chaffthen just set down the skull to farm a spawn door
>>573946092https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpcd45zvY-U
I make sure to kill every horde before it reach a skitarii flame skull
>>573946246i got it by setting it on a poxwalker horde that came from behind, while my teammates pushed ahead. I've also heard the plague tree in Hab Dreyko is a good spot for it. Maybe even the extraction part.
>>573945789It baffles me to no end that goody two shoes psyker is by far the most picked one when the other two are so much more fun.
decline or accept?
>>573946843having tranner in my lobby would give me too much of a boner to think straight
>>573945396She's positive to all the zealots. This makes sense with her being positive to the arbites as they are, theoretically, acting literally on the whims of the emperor, and thus she bootlicks bigtime for then. This is consistent, but then her being a huge moralfag otherwise completely clashes with this
>>573946843decline or accept what?
>>573946938don't play dumb
>>573945789male seer is the most popular and is also the most reddit because he's funny wacky with the beloved and such. female savant is for the goonlords
>>573946092https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4ZTvu7Xd4
>>573947045what if I'm not playing
>hear trapper net launch>see /!\ icon
>>573947257WE ARE CHARLIE KIIIIIIIIIIIIRK
>>573946938gay sex but you actually get to top
>>573947584Am I gay if I'm on top?
>>573947110which one's the german guy?
Should I increase the height of my zealot/arbites to better score horizontal headshots on hordes? Up until this point I've kept everyone the default height. I've noticed that my default height skitarii, who is a bit taller than normal humans, has a trivial time landing horizontal headshots with the transonic blades. I'm not sure if I should increase the height of my other characters, and if so how much? Do vet/psyker/zealot/arbites all use the same height scale?
>>573947669The heretical german is the loner.
>>573947734For melee or ranged? For melee my minheight psyker headtaps all the time, ranged is where it gets goofy; I think the way the hitboxes are aligned, I keep hitting the chin
should I play as a manlet or a 6ft tall gigachad?
>>573945789>male seerI'm not playing as a shrill german or a nigger>male professionalHe's the most boring and least offensive voice in the lineup, which is why I take him so I can tune him out>bodyguard ogrynThe other three are unironically reddit picks, bodyguard is the easiest for me to tune out>male drunken priestI don't even play zealot enough to have an opinion on any of the voices>male fatalist arbitratorMaul is gay, and I literally can't remember what the other guy sounds like, by my reckoning the fatalist has the least interactions with other classes, so I don't have to listen to him much>male bounty hunterLeast annoying of the three choices>skibidiPathfinder tuned to lower tones so I can ignore anything he says, I don't want to hear the chuuni at all>what about femalesI hate women.
>>573947872He is a bit heretical isn't he? He's still my favorite
>>573947883Melee. In my experience with default height skitarii, it's constant headshots on poxwalkers with the transonic blades.
>>573947942People say there are some fringe benefits like you can hit heads easier if you're taller but I've never noticed that. I've played for thousands of hours on both ends of the height sliders and I can honestly say it makes no difference other than preference.
>>573946639this one?
>>573948424Yup
>>573947942>the urge to play a shorty skitarius with squeaky reverent voice
>no skitty cosmetics without their big coatssad.>>573949025unfortunately they're all taller than the standard humans so you'll only be short to ogryns and other skittles
Skitty needs a helmet like this
>almost tie my vt2 playtime on steam on 3 days of owning darktideI could have swore I had way more hours in vt2 but I guess not. Something about dakrtide flows better than vt2 for me I guess.
>>573948000He’s very heretical yes>>573949025This anime is so weird
>>573950429I'll bully you.
>>573948167easier to see disablers over horde if you aren't a manlet
>>573950429
>>573950103I really enjoy the playstyle on the right and I've got a phd
>>573951663you should get that checked out
>>573946092Strange to shoot a man before he jumps on to a plane
>>573946246>>573946805Use it on the extraction of Hab Dreyko where you're at the last platform leading up to the Valkyrie. You have poxwalkers running from three different directions and all centering in one location while they try to get up the stairs to you. There are two monster closets on that platform and the ramp down. Ezpz. I got it on my first try. It wasn't even a Hi Int.
>>573941940I interpreted it as showing naïveté somehow but she’s also well meaning despite that >>573942221The Cadian has some of the best delivery in the game
>>573947662the sex is but you are straight as an arrow.
>>573951765
>>573951893you're a large man
>>573951893you'se a big guy
>>573951950For Atoma!
>>573951893Bane?
UP IN DA CLUB
>>573951765>>573951893If I put that on you, would you live?
Strike team?Skibidi now.
>>573934051>slaying hordes of bare titted sluts instead of plagued semi zombies
>>573945789Bodyguard and Cadian are the best of their classes. French psyker has the benefit of sounding sultry and hot at least. >>573942765That’s certainly true in a lot of cases, but there are some situations so shitty and unsalvageable in the imperium that even the most friendly treatment of them would make no difference. Usually the case with hive cities. Some factors are simply out of their hands.
>>573934051Malice.>b-butMalice.
who the fuck is malice
>>573954074Super speshul le renegade Chaos God who's so chaotic he's like Chaos times 2!!!! Imagine Coldsteel the Hedgehog but Chaos god.
female agitator>>>>buhhhh my qt scottish accentactually a really bad one lmao
>>573954074
>>573951463>>573951643I just want to see my skitty's face sometimes..
>>573954074The fifth chaos god, the god of absolute chaos and self destruction, he is opposed to everyone but is most focused on fighting other factions of chaos.Was once set to be a lot bigger decades ago but has been relegated to merely technically exist(maybe).Worshiped by one chaos space marine warband.
>quickplay auric>knife zealot in the group is a turbo tryhard zooming around the map>"wanna see me bully a victimhost?">nobody answers>spend 5 minutes fighting the demonhost alone because nobody wanted to help>further in map>"oooh another demonhost">aggro it again>same shithaha we get it you have 5K hour in this game please I just want to finish this map and go to bed
>>573952367
>>573954778
>>573954850
>>573954631>Guys here's my super special chaos god OC he's like super cool and hates everyone but especially the other chaos gods and like beats them up regularly please leave a likeDo "people" actually give a fuck about Warhammer story when it's this abysmal?
>>573954704>t. cant 1-shot the daemonhost
>>573955007Not even GW themselves gave a fuck about it since they dropped the concept of Malal entirely, he doesn't "only sorta maybe kinda exist", he just straight up doesn't anymore.
>>573954704I have never actually seen one activate (outside of the meat grinder with the mob spawn mod). Everyone just leaves it well alone. I wonder if most people even know how to fight it considering it's basically optional.
>>573955014Kinda new still to the game, only 400ish hours. How do I one shot a daemonhost?
>>573955007He doesn't really beat them up regularly, he's a pretty obscure part of 40k and has no influence on any major events.A single minor warband of chaos space marines that go out of their way to fight other chaos space marines are the only example of a major cult of malice and they show up like one time.
>>573955312Certain thunder hammer and relic blade zealot buildsPushing them off ledges
>>573955419>they show up like one timeIn actual GW stuff or like in some random novel written by a random author and only sanctioned by GW?That's one issue with universes where a lot of the lore is from novels by a multitude of diferent authors. Shit can be inconsistent, different authors can contradict each other, stuff can be declared non canon or be dubious, etc. etc. Star Wars has the same issue.
i wish they'd buff the daemonhosta single vaultable crate oneshots them
>>573955249>I have never played with a console playerdoubt.jpg
Anyone having issues with the text chat? It entirely stopped working for me halfway through my havoc runs.
>>573955312Nothing the knife guy anon played with can do
>>573955716All published 40k books are considered in-universe propaganda, taking anything written in them seriously is foolish
>>573956885>All published 40k books are considered in-universe propagandaSource for this claim?
>>573954631Those designs are cool as shit. Makes me wish we got more of them. >>573955716>Shit can be inconsistent, different authors can contradict each other, stuff can be declared non canon or be dubious, etc. etc. Star Wars has the same issue.The beauty of 40k is all of that stuff is intentional whereas with others it isn’t.It’s a core feature of the setting to have the audience be able to pick and choose what is and isn’t the case through the “everything is canon” statement as info comes from biased sources, unreliable word of mouth, crazy people, etc.The random novel in question would still be just as valid as anything else, but GW does actually pay close attention to details make sure things aren’t *too* contradictory (they’re not going to let anyone kill off Abaddon for example and then have him show up in another book completely inexplicably fine).
Why everybody is a fucking glue eating retard on the EU server past midnight?
>>573957202What happened, anon?
>>573955007malal was mentioned literally once in one sourcebook that GW has never reprinted. but because warhammer fans have a knack for repeating nonsense over and over and over and over and over and over they keep talking about it and trying to make it a thing, just like how many people hate matt ward despite having never experienced anything from him except presumably darktide/vermintide lol
>>573955716Their existence has scattered references in a few informational book series and they make guest appearances in actual stories a couple times, but they only have one black library short story about them and one actual novel that features them as the antagonist in which they lose and leave.
my brain just isnt capable of learning the relic blade mk10 moveset, all the swipes look the samemaybe the mk2 is more intuitive so i guess ill try that now
>>573957202Europeans are asleep whereas migroids don't work for a living
>>573957467you just light attack into everything it's a shitter's braindead weapon. mk2 at least has a moveset that's actually a tiny bit engaging
>>573956968My source is the complete disconnect between the events depicted and the tabletop rules which actually represent the setting as it existsBelieving anything written in a 40k book actually happened is like saying 4 dudes on foot can kill 3000 heretics in 40 minutes because you can do that in darktide
>>573958068That's not a source, that's autistic shit you made up in your head because you are completely incapable of not rationalizing everything
>>573958068I mean that’s not entirely. For imperial stories maybe but there are a number of books that take place from a first person perspective of aliens and heretics etc. not every BL book is some autism retold from an ancient tome
>>573957467Still never gonna use the mk2 meselfFor me if the weapon has a stab push attack I never use any other mark
>>573958341>>573958758>nooo you cant just disregard the writers oc despite it contradicting established reality>no i dont have an explanation for why it also contradicts other writers oc
>>573959439>EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ACCURATE, CONSISTENT AND MAKE SENSE OR I WILL HAVE A MELTDOWN ON A TIBETAN ROPE WEAVING FORUMThe books work on narrative rules, and are exceptional circumstances in the setting. The tabletop is balanced because you can't have a wargame if one or two factions are obviously superior to the rest. It does not have to make sense in any other way.
>can't alter the pitch of skitty voice without personality scourgepretty gay
>assail>laspistol>greatswordWhat am I supposed to do when crushers show up? Sword feels slow
>darktide: nurgle>space marine 2: tzeentch>rogue trader: tzeentchslaanesh and khorne representation in vidya is lacking
>>573959439>contradicting established realityThe tabletop is not the sole or ‘end all’ source of canon. By GW’s official policy it’s just as valid as the table top itself. This sounds like you being insecure you aren’t as familiar with one as the other. The explanation is that that’s a key feature of the setting to allow for creative freedom and flexible circumstances.
>>573960001You pop Scrier's Gayze and smack them with your sword. Or you just run away and let your team kill them I guess since you're fast as fuck with the laspistol, but I love smacking them with the force greatsword.
>>573960319I have shriek but if sword's my best option then sword it is
>>573954778>>573954850>>573954945ZAMN
>>573960867>gunpsyker>no Crier's Gay
>>573957467??? You activate the sword and click left mouse button until the horde is gone
>>573961137it doesnt feel the same as executioners sword
>>573961117It was supposed to be a sword guy, I just took a gun so it feels different from my staff/gaze guy
>>573960053The entire Dawn of War series was almost purely Khorne.
>>573960053space marine 1 had bloodletters and space marine 2 shouldn't have had chaos at all
>>573959665>>573960268>reality changes when the writers oc is concerned because it just has to ok>yes you should be taking everything as fact except the things we dont like those are made up>this is what good writing is like
Anons someone please give me advice on how to complete Sicarian Disciple penance (the one where you have to kill 5 elites with the skittle claw)
>>573961848How many 40k books have you read and which ones? Outside of the rule books and codices.
>>573934051Gork n Mork.
>>573960053Actually all of the gods have had their fair share of spotlight at this point. Khorne pretty much dominated the 2000s. Nurgle and Tzeentch have been eating good since the 2010s. Only Slaanesh is lacking but that’s unlikely to change sadly.
>>573962012Nta but the vast majority of BL is fucking garbage. Only author I've been able to stand is Sandy Mitchell and the guy who did the Red Gobbo novellas. Someone recommended I read Know No Fear in /40kg/ and it was the most abysmal piece of dogshit I'd read in a long time.
>>573961848You should take what you want to accept as fact. 40k is not a standard shared universe. Lots of stuff is up for interpretation and this is by design. Saying "X source is more valid than Y source" is directly contradicted every single time GW speaks out on canon policy (except for where it obviously doesn’t apply like in an adaptation doing something that wouldn’t make sense). I mean the chief editor and lead designer puts it pretty simply himself:>”Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 exist as tens of thousands of overlapping realities in the imaginations of games developers, writers, readers and gamers. None of those interpretations is wrong"
>>573961850Wait for a bunch of ragers to get close together and then pop off
>>573963007Everything is canon but not everything is true or w/e.Kick ADB in the teeth
I'm having fun with Psyker but now I wanna shoot a gun. Zealot or Vet?
>>573963007This. I can paint my Blood Ravens using equipment, weapons and vehicles that still have the paintjobs of other chapters showing through in spots because they're bloody magpies and it's completely canon.>Why is that marine sergeant holding a guardian spearStop asking questions.
>BOOM BARREL, HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!
>>573963347Psyker
>>573927174Why do builds like this take stamina curio and stamina buffs?
>>573961389>sword guy>no gazeNot trying to be an autist, but why?
>>573963129adb books are on the better end of 40k literature thoughever(this means little because 40k books are gutter tier genre fiction at best)
>>573963532I already said why??
>>573963347Please don't play a gun zealot. If you want to shoot but you think the vet is too squishy, then play an arbites or an ogryn
>>573963509Parrying with the sword costs stamina and a lack of stamina is one of the skitters weaknesses
>>573961850Play Auric Maelstrom and eventually you're going to run into 15 dreg shotgunners stacked on top of each other
>>573963582Oh yeah. I guess hit them on the head or switch to smite and let your teammates be crusher jannies.
>>573961389>>573963582You also use scrier's for gun builds
>>573963553His prose is genuinely awfulNot that abnett is much better in general, I've yet to read a story of his that didn't end when the load bearing big bad died. Every fucking gaunt book is like that.
>>573963808On my staff guy
>>573963347I had the most fun recently playing a mag dump spearhead boltgun Veteran. I would basically save my ammo for packs of ragers and full auto into them. Also with at least 1 crit I could kill a crusher in 6 rounds. Absolute hell on earth dealing with ammo hungry teammates though.
>>573964043I meant to say you SHOULD use scrier's on gun focused builds
>>573964124OhThe gun's just there to fill the slot really
>>573963113my team immediately kills them>>573963746i'm too bad for that...
>>573964196Use a bolt pistol, it can kinda kill crushers
>>573964196Then what are you building around?>meleeBest with scrier's>gunsBest with scrier's>shriekNeeds peril generation
warppill me on the trauma staff
>>573933523>>573952210>>573964976Kill yourself
>>573964196>not realizing how strong Scrier Psyker is with a revolver or bolt pistolget a load of this fuckin' guy
>>573940782the smartest slavnigger's thought process
>>573964853>>573965159Couldn't pay me to care that it's best, I already have a gaze loadout.Simpul as
>putting crying gays in your loadoutcouldn't be me, I'm straight
>>573964929Excellent staff, quite safe to keep out 99.99% of time if you feel melee is a dirty word.Ball spam on primary for excellent ranged domination with high suppression and acceptable damage to eliminate ranged enemies while you suppress.Blast on Secondary to juggle melee elites and obliterate trash.One should weave both attack types in to ensure complete enemy controlAdd Warp Nexus and Blazing Spirit; The area of effect for applying the soulblaze is huge, three times bigger than the glowing pie plate (anything that is even mildly tickled by the stagger gets blazed). Ranged blazing spirit soulblaze stack cap is only 6, but that is just enough to burn out gunners and below. So while you juggle and blast the melee elites to death the surrounding trash also burns out
>>573965715Straight at the bottom of the scoreboard
i like skitarii but i feel i'm ruining everyone else's fun by using the arc rifle
>>573961850The answer is always snortis biles
>>573966872 I don't know what that is
>>573967015Mortis trials
>>573967015Dortis diles
>>573967052Oh, yeah I did one of thoseI guess I could do more
Morkis Gorkials
>>573967015the Doordasher smiles
>>573967261how did they get a cat to do that
>>573967547paid him
>>573967547threatened him with a spray bottle
>>573967547paid him with a spray bottle
>>573967547Sprayed money at him with a bottle
Why does fatshark limit us to only 8 build preset? Are they not confident players can have that many presets for one operative?
>>573967547
>>573967547threatened him with bottling
Vet penances gotta be the worst of all. Tedious bullshit on the most boring class.
which grenades does lethal proximity ACTUALLY affect? I know it doesn't change the smoke grenade
>>573968283Because presetcels would kill themselves if 20 presets per class would reset after every major update
>>573968697It increases all explosion radius'. Smoke grenade does not have an explosion. Krak and Shredder grenades do. Scum rocket launcher does. Even the crusher does.
>>573968793That fact that happens with updates and if you swap devices is omega retarded.
i used the ogryn single stubber for the first time and is this thing really unsatisfying to use or is it just me? it almost feels like the thing has a delay before beginning to fire on auto, and the firing sound is really lacking in oomph
>>573969541It's a decent sniper if you need it. Don't expect too much
I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything
>>573969913I get 3 people like you in all of my auric matches
>>573969958sorry. I'll start punishing myself again
>>573969913havocGOD...
>>573970014Make it hurt. I want you squeeling
I still can't believe we don't have fifteen pistol+melee dualwield weapon types. Including the uhhhh power glove to use bigger weapons with single handed.
>>573969913Stay in my damnations
I'm a retard and everyone is mean to me. I wish I was dead lol
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me.
I'm pretty average, and I'm basically invisible in a room. I feel nothing.
>>573970309>>573970419>>573970501Choose your team mate!
I use mods to cover my shortfalls so my friends don't ostracize or exclude me from playing.
>>573969913Go back to Rivals then.
>>573971507I'm too stupid to play it
I love coming back to the game and finding that everything is fucking broken. Bursters running through full stam pushes, silent specials everywhere, dogs being immune to any form of stagger that would knock them out of their pounce. And now it's constantly stuttering for some fucking reason too. FUCKING SWEDES
>>573972910The servers are fucking fucked mate
It sucking buying a game you're too stupid to play and played it too long to get a refund lol. Literally a skill issue haha. Man I hope I die in my sleep soon lol
>>573973023Shut the fuck up
sorry my words angered you
>>573972990
>have a match where all of my fucking damage taken can be directly tied to shitters mag dumping pox bursters and exploding inopportune barrels.You know that big fucking favella wall in the hourglass? The fuckers just barrelled me from the very top to the very fucking bottom. The only reason that I didn't die from fall damage is because arbites has a fat HP pool. Barely survived the pile of ragers and reapers that were down there. Faggots had more ranged kills than melee but fuckall elite/special kills.
>>573973615Arbites also get true grit
>>573886035Question for next bake so it's not a completely shitty last minute copypaste again:1.11.6 is not a hotfix so I don't know why it's labeled like that, should that part have the latest actual patch (1.12.0) or latest hotfix?
>>573974104*shrugs*
>>573974280Yes I know no one in this general knows nothing about anything and takes no responsibility about keeping their lovely shitpost tab alive. Complete anarchy. I'm really just asking out of courtesy.I assume it's meant to have the latest RELEVANT patch and not trivial bug fixes, so I'm going to go with 1.12.0.Kuli's guides is the only relevant link in that section anyway.
>>573974604*shrugs*
>>573974652*hugs*
>>573974604If they posted a changelog, put it in the OP, nobody reads that shit anyway.
>>573974036I forgot that I equipped that the way to the keystone. Maybe that's why I survived the fall.
New>>573976895>>573976895>>573976895
>>573963129That was Gav Thorpe actually lol
>>573967547>>573968306It’s very simple when you know what you’re doing>>573970501>>573970419>>573970309Curious
>>573885084To add onto that the Necrons didn’t even face the Aeldari at their height of their power, that only came after the WiH was over.>>573885553Basically yes.>>573885971I wouldn’t say Quixos had a good plan but it is a good example of someone being fooled they can use Chaos for their own goals.
>>573920472Good question. Probably nothing good for the person saying for it.
