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You'd think with a fanbase as autistic as 40k things like a weapons built in crit damage multiplier would be documented and easy available online
>>574505770let him in?
>>574506142it is for vt2, but outside of character base crit chance and finesse modifier there shouldnt be inbuilt crit chance
>>57450614240k autism is like the semantics and wittiness behind text, not numbers autism
>>574505770the rainbow curios are very cute.
>>574506142That's because nobody wants to waste their time documenting swedish retardation for the sake of a game as shit as shopclick.
how would YOU buff arbities?
>>574506981autopistol + shield, also let the ranged shield have the flashbang
>>574505770average hive scigger
Man the arbiter's boltgun fucking sucks mad asshole
Holy moly gimme a sword and shield on zealot alreadyAnd more plate armour storeslop
anons why can't none of the rejects have melodic voices like Sister Hestia? why do they all have to sound like OI GUVNA ME MINGE IS BLOODY ITCHY
>>574506981make nuncio radius 50% bigger and give the dog a 'chomp' instant execute on enemies its pounced that fall below 20% hp
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>eating the crusher overhead that was aimed to someone else who dodged at your position.
>try to level ogryn>level 1 uprising difficulty>no one knows how to navigate the simplest mapimpossible, i'm never leveling up another class againI guess i'll only play psyker, arbiter or skit from now on
i just want more maps man
I wasn't around to respond earlier but yep, I tested this against the Power Falchion's decapitator, that one falls off all at once. So either intentionally or by mistake, the Mechanicus Power Sword has a unique version of Decapitator that falls off one stack at a time and does not tell you that it's different.
why did the moebian 6th add spikes to their suicide train in rolling steel
>My mate who is always like 250k dmg below me on the scoreboard on a good day starts playing with the archgun >He's now competing with my goupes designated Psyker for the top spot without even really trying Sleep soundly at night knowing that if FatScat ever has a moment of clarity and nerf the flame staff, skitty will be right there to fill the void.Also.I'm not having any fun now since I WAS the groups primary DPS/boss dmg.What do I do now?
>>574509390you can literally just turn your monitor off and beat an uprising map with ogryn
We are so back bros
>>574509576until you reach one of those retarded progress doors and your team is dicking around
why did they delete sedition difficulty
>>574509707They should delete heresy too
>>574509706just put a youtube video on your second monitor
>>574509706just put a vtuber on your second monitor
>>574509707"Shorten" the leveling up new character process because players are now forced to play through a certain amount of games in each difficulty
>>574509707They removed it before I got the game and this is the first time I'm hearing of it. I google it and in the results there's a leddit thread of a guy who keeps dying and can't win games on it, that's probably the reason it's gone, waaaay too hard.
>>574509706Just put an ISIS execution video on your second monitor
>>574509390Do you play campaign mode or not? If yes, then you are accepting yourself to play with the worst, retards or children.
>>574506981Buff Nuncio in some way to make it worth taking. The main problem with it being that the radius is too small and your team often gets pushed out of it by fire, gas, or an armor wave or something and you dont get full usage out of it. Stationary radius buffs are fucking garbage in a game where the enemy has so many forms of area denial. Just make the Nuncio follow the Arb around and make the buffs active for everyone in coherency with them. Boom, Nuncio fixed.And I also wish they'd get rid of all the ranged talents in the tree so retards would stop thinking Arb should ever be built as ranged damage class. Which would effectively be a buff to Arbs in general, as it would get them to stop being useless morons who sit on the back line shooting their gun all mission and slurping up all the ammo, and put them on the front line where they fucking belong.Stop fucking playing Arb as a ranged class, you fucking idiots, I fucking hate you.
>talking about buffing anyone other than Zealot that is about to be replaced by SoBTo what end?
>>574511103Sorry but the executioner shotgun spam WILL continue.
>>574511287just because zealot is a buff bot in havoc 40 doesnt mean its bad
Why do you guys take btl over castigator?
>>574511517staggering things is more helpful than buffing yourself
power fist now
>>574510948I can't play anything other than campaign at level 1 anonpipi
>>574511517Crowd control is super strong, especially in the higher difficulties where enemy density goes crazy. BTL has a really low cooldown and can be popped like every 12 seconds. Combine that with a high stagger weapon like the maul and shield, or the crusher, and you become an immovable wall that can hold and entire horde in a choke point all by yourself. Now compare the utility of that with...>look at me, I do more damage now, and also I cant sprint anymore>hurr durr Im helping!
>>574511893Just skip it?
>>574486592Damn, That is unfortunate, can't say I know what's causing it as I have not been experiencing any of the same crashes. I'm convinced it is either a mod conflict or a modload order issue, however i vaguely remember the same thing happening to a friend who had fairly minimal mods installed.
>>574511952Gotcha, thanks
>>574509552They removed stats so people like you wouldn't get upset
>Advanced Combat Doctrines>Vraks Infantry AutogunYep it's BRRRRRRTime
>trannysonic blades have two movesets>neither of them are any fun to use
>>574514016true, i just use the arc maul or even the power falchion
>>574505770Declined
what's the deal with 'campaign mode' in Darktide? I've been given like 3 different answers on how to not have to do it so I'm a little confused
>>574514016I like the wide swings moveset and the X slash on the anti armour
>>574514705If it's your very first time ever you can't skip itOn any other character you make after beating it, you get a prompt to skip
>>574514016i mean they're pretty much perfect for anything
>>574508685Because then Hestia would have one of her charms and selling points lessened>>574510290Those still exist?
me and my chud sons
noob heredo count your missing wounds as missing health?like if you have 5 wounds and 3 of them were turned purple, would this count as you being at 40% HP?
>>574515513Yup
>>574515569woah that's awesomenow I really want to do a martyrdom build
>>574515513OfcHaving max corruption still allows you to have max attack speed if you're woundmaxxing zealot
>>574508685>melodicAGP
>>574514878how long is it? I think I'm like 13 or 14 missions in
>skitarii get autoguns and laspistols but no lasgunsgayyyy. i know they use ballistic weapons plenty but it just feels more right for them to use lasers if they're using non-skittle stuff. of course if fatshark were a serious company they'd have no overlap between skittle gear and other classes considering they have a ton of unique weapons. too much work for swedes though
>>574516178https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_for_Tertium_(Campaign)3-4 more missions.
>>574516782might just try to smash them out this afternoon then
>>574506981>how would YOU buff arbities?-Nuncio Aquila slowly follows the caster-Castigator's stance cooldown reduced to 40 seconds from 50 seconds-Blessed Armament node now connects directly to Castigator's Stance, rather than being under Writ of Execution-Targeted Brutality node now connects directly to Break the Line, rather than being under Commendation from Condemnation -Base crit chance increased to 10% from 7.5% (Same base crit chance as Hivescum)-Arbites grenade center radius damage increased to 2k from 1.5k
>>574517552>Nuncio Aquila slowly follows the casterWould be incredible
Ogryns one single crit node should be hits, not killsAnd move it to the melee tree
>>574517552they VVILL add femgryns btw (the emperor revealed it to me)
>>574517552Why the FUCK did they make the nuncio aquila so goddamn useless in practice?Even in low difficulties with dad gamers and literal children they just move out of it in a second so it doesn't even do anything there.
>>574518147They're gonna be ugly :(
>>574518191that just makes it hotter
>>574518147This artist really needs to learn how to draw heads.
I changed my mind, Arc Rifle is the best Skitarii weapon. Second is the phosphor pistol.
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>574508685because hestia is away from the front lines and ultra naive. softies don't survive
>>574508685we like french psyker in this house
>>574519851PRO-TOE-CALL
>dash in revved evis kills any normal normal enemy all the way up to crushers fine>use it on a boss for huge chunks off their hp too>dash in revved chain axe kills any normal enemy all the way up to crushers fine>use it on a boss for a noticeably much smaller chunk off of a boss despite damage numbers not being that much smallerIs there some secret multiplier it's missing?
Tbqh i don't mind seeing a clearly out of his depth fella in higher difficulties. He's just having fun, playing the game like we all once did and him being a shitter actually makes things more fun for me overall since i have to try at least slightly harder. Stay out of havoc though
>>574520712Same, I like to watch their back for them.
>>574517552>Castigator's stance cooldown reduced to 40 seconds from 50 secondscastiagtor stance would need a revamp to compete against btl and a mobile nuncio desu
>vet who was playing like he thought he was hot shit kept messing up and dying in the second half of the mission
>>574517552>>574517935moving nuncio aquila is lore accurate as well. they're like drones the arbites use to search around corners before breaching n shit
>>574506981Buff dog by reversing some of the bleed nerfs. Readd the ability to apply bleed stacks to enemies in a 2-3 meter radius when pouncing a target. Bleed used to be worth taking because of that, but it only became OP because all the arbites +% damage nodes for some reason applied to dog and its bleed too.So instead of just not having those talents apply Fatshark entirely neutered razor jaw augment which just made it a useless talent. I'm sorry, but 60k bleed damage into fucking horde trash isn't worth a fucking talent point. It's even worse against elites.Also as an added change to the dog, make it so that it counts as "attacking" when it is pounced onto enemies or latched onto monstrosities, meaning it can keep applying bleed stacks (up till 16 stacks) onto any enemy it is latched on. This just makes sense too, since when the dog has pounced a target the animation shows that it keeps biting the enemy. So it should be applying bleed everytime it bites.Also entirely rework the middle "dog keystones" of UB and GGE they are genuinely just fucking bad and never worth taking. LW in comparison gives you a talent which has like 6 skillpoints worth of value baked in. While UB and GGE are useless shit which bricks your build because taking either turns your Dog AI into a fucking spastic.Instead they should make it a binary choice. You either take LW, or you keep the dog, but you get some extra bonuses from the new dog talent that replaced UB and GGE. But it should have only like 2-3 talent points worth of value baked in (the dog itself is strong so only 2-3 points is fair)Also just make the dog move faster, it takes fucking forever to kill anything you tagged, since it takes 3 business days to get to the target, pounce it and then kill it.The skittle skull kills enemies outright in like 1/10th the time.
>>574511304it's so inconsistent
>plasma gun with advanced combat doctrinesfuaaark this is really fun. i'm sure it's shit at high levels but damn it's satisfying
>>574524556am still wondering if they are even able to create a proper aimbot or not
>>574524556Cheese is bad for rats. It makes them fat and clogs their arteries, also adult rats can't digest lactose which causes problems too.
Give cyber-mastiff a skin which is a big cybernetically enhanced panther.
>psyker playing like he thinks his shit don't stink>sprinting ahead of everyone, spamming m1 on his purg >gets netted by the first trapper to spawn >i free him almost instantly because i'm just that guy >he's already afk and refuses to play the game >vote kicks all faili just left, sorry pal, you're not getting a free ride because you spilled your spaghetti and got all pissy
>vet acting like hot shit in a mission>decides not to res anyone and run past people to solo the mission>dies to a rager seconds later>we failgg buddy
>hear net/dog/sniper sound but can't see them>dodge to side>misses completelyWorks every time. I genuinely have to think people are playing on mute half the time.
>>574526552>mfw i dodge into the disabler but yes, it does work like 90% of the time
>>574524881Well, cheese is tasty, so fuck alladat.
>>574526820Rats will still shit their entire ass from eating it, and it is bad for them.
Tested The Mound with my friend and its jank, buggy, and kino of the highest order. Its got a similar vibe to Stalker games. Jank with immense soul and vibes.
So what are we expecting fatshit to do to skitarii once they finally return from vacation?>arc rifle nerfed with smaller magazine and less overall ammo capacity>nooskull actually needing 25 capacitance to use.>buffs to arc grenades, refractor shield, and flame skull
>>574527465galvanic rifle untouched because they HATE sniper rifles
>>574522316>playing like he thought he was hot shitElaborate.
I must say the Maul VA is fun for a while but the fatalist is much better in the long run for arbi
Bros I am suffering in Auric on my new HIV S. Cum. idk if this class is just weaker or my build is ass but on all the other classes once they're built up I don't even think about clearing auric. And on this dude I'm failing like 3/4 runs. I'm pretty much perpetually saving doggo teams who all go down super fast I straight up can't carry this shit.Am I retarded?
>>574528292Hive Scum gets to choose between Melee Juggernaut or Ranged Immortal. With an extra selection of immediate kill everything rocket or lasting deathzone chem grenade, as a problem solver.Unless you're using the crate and are trying to rely on your team (or your fingers just forgot how to dodge, Hive Scum should generally be a tiny force of destruction.
>>574528292I don't play hive scum, but from what I've seen they largely just excel at being DPS machines and choke a bit if they're ever asked to slow down. For example stopping to pickup teammates who can't help but die every 20 seconds, or stand still to do an objective like hack the terminal.
target selection really is shite on arbi also is it me or the shotgun is wetnoodle against carapace
how can i cope.
>>574509506So there's a chance that the Mechanicus Power Sword will be competitive after the Swedes fix it and potentially change up the moveset?
>>574528653>>574528689I was running melee at first. Then like a fag I looked up popular builds and swapped over to ranged. (Most popular builds seem to be toxin-based, but that kindof conflicts with the class strengths oddly enough so that's my last to try). I'm doing most of the killing in these runs. I'm either pulling the team forward when they get stuck or reviving the whole team at least once a mission. I just cant tell if i'm noticing this because I'm actually less powerful, or because this is some phenomenon I'm not used to where teams are losing more than they normally are. Like I said, auric is usually a breeze and right now I'm struggling, though still doing better than every other dude on the team. Side note: it's funny how when you're running Blackout (auto-generate) grenades nobody seems to care about my grenade pings. And when I'm running the bazooka they'll scoop up every grenade I find the second the fucking container opens. I honestly get 0-1 refills each mission.
>>574509552If they do that, expect to see endless bitching by everyone else in who doesn't play Skitarii because they'll have to feed the Skitarii with all the ammo on Havoc, which they won't accept. Although it is true. I did 2.2 million damage on an Auric Maelstrom just by zapping with my Arc Gun. It's brain dead, extremely powerful, and there seems to always be something new found that makes it even stronger. That tip about how it does Weakspot damage into Bosses is absolutely not intentional, but I doubt Fatshark will ever change it because no one will tell them to.
>>574527465Forget all about itIts time for another ogryn nerf. An ogryn nerf is long overdue, and I'm not talking about ranged ogryn, I mean everything. Fuck it, remove batter and delight in destruction. We must not let the cycle be discontinued.
I hope we get a grenade launcher for Vet. I want to do a full grenadier build at some point, it'd be fun.
Havoc 10-19 has been significantly easier than Auric Maelstrom so far it's honestly really surprising. Granted the team I ran with actually stuck together and everyone generally knew what they were doing.
>>574530574just kill the bleed
>>574527465>>nooskull actually needing 25 capacitance to use.What? Doesn't it take 25 capacitance already? At least when I've used the skull, it takes the 25% cap to "cast" it.
>>574530649it's just heresy difficulty really
>>574530681It can still be used at 0% and won't eat into overcharge, allowing you to spam pings indefinitely
>>574530681It drains 25% capacitance per use over the duration of its effect, so you can actually use it when you have less than 25% available, the fire rate just terminates early. So basically you can have 100% uptime on it provided you're generating more capacitance than you're using.
>>574530574leave him alone you fucking swigger
>>574506981Wait what in the fuck is making you retards think arbitrator deserves or needs a buff? It's a little weak in havoc because it doesn't fit cleanly into the meta, but it's also completely broken OP in auric at the same time.
>>574530574It's funny people keep saying "nerf ogrym bleed" or to get rid of it.When in reality you could just solve the problem by just buffing the damage on ogryn's weapons.Stacking bleed becomes less valuable more damage your weapon does, which is because more damage the weapon does less you can build up bleed stacks and more likely it is that you just outright kill the enemy instead.It's kinda like the phosphor burn DoT on the skittle revolver. It sounds neat but the gun already does so much damage against the relevant targets that you just kill them and the DoT does nothing.
>>574530916>>574530920That's hilarious, need to remember that when I play skittle. All my builds use the skull anyway since it is more unique and fun.
>>574527465I doubt they will touch the Arc Rifle because every "meta" Havoc build uses the Phosphor, and when they look at their data they will see that that Arc Rifle doesn't outpace other players significantly. We know that's because the Arc Rifle scales with enemy density, and no one is upset about the gun as a consequence.I figure it'll be bug fixes. A buff to the flame skull. Buffs to the other Blitzes (IDK how). Maybe some kind of damage nerf to Noospheric (slow down the fire rate, for instance). Requiring 25% on it won't hurt the thing, if anything it'd probably just cause more people to learn about riding capacitance charges with it and Voltaic. Fixes to the power sword. I figure there will be nerfs in the tree somewhere. Specifically the Chord Claw will get hit due to overuse, and Fatshark not being happy that it can easily dispatch bosses on its own. Galvanic should get 50% more ammo, but it won't.
>>574531226>but it's also completely broken OP in auric at the same time.Every class is completely broken OP in auric. This statement means nothing.Havoc is the only combat environment that matters and what the game should be balanced around anyway.
>>574531431Unfortunately the game will always be balanced around heresy, chuddie.
>>574531431No, retard. Arbitrator is completely broken OP in auric in a way that stands out in a disgusting way. Sure, you can button mash and win on an OP build on every other class, but arbitrator does so while asleep and not losing a single point of health. Only ogryn comes close on a PBB rumbler build, but ogryn doesn't get a dog and 6 gorillion toughness per second.It's not okay for any class to completely faceroll auric, but Arbitrator is by far the easiest class to do this with and never be challenged. That is not okay. Buffing the class without including nerfs elsewhere will make it even more retarded in the babby difficulties>Havoc is the only combat environment that mattersI like havoc and completely disagree.
>>574531580am curious if they balance based on the number of people one each diff or the diff which has the most customers
My luck has finally come. Finally leveled arbys and at 30 got a 21% hp curio from melk, and a 3 stam curio from brunt.Now the 17% tough curio aludes me. All I need for my stagger slammer crusher arbies build.
Bros I'm playing Arbites right now and the female Authoritarian voice is pure sexo. I love her.
>>574531753Your arbitrator owes me lex
>>574531753I presume it's the Tzarina VA
>>574531958Apparently
>>574531608>Arbitrator is completely broken OP in auric in a way that stands out in a disgusting way.It doesn't. It's just a smaller ogryn and ogryn is balanced in aurics.>ogryn doesn't get 6 gorillion toughness per secondHe does generate toughness out the ass like arby though? Ogryn has the best and fastest way of regening toughness in the game with smash em and best defence. And on top he gets fuck load of damagw reduction too like arby.Both ogryn and arby are balanced in aurics.
>rolling steel>2 downs before the second hack>3 deaths before the medicae>haven't even taken a single point of damage yet>while soloing every objective up until now>leave the game>newniggers no doubt instantly wipedThis is a good feeling.No more free auric carries for shitters who belong in malice.
Is there really any difference between the complete 50 Havoc assignments and aid 50 players with their Havoc assignments? The wording of the latter would make me believe that it is 50 different players but I just played 5 Havocs with the same team and have 5/50 progress in both so I assume they are both just missions.
>>574532180So basically you don't know what makes arbitrator actually strong and I'm not going to spoonfeed some faggot who is just going to disagree for its own sake, so accept my concession, for no attempt at leading the horse to water can also ensure it'll drink.
>>574531642Console players make up the majority of the population in heresy and malice, and are a very sizable chunk of the playerbase so it would not surprise me in the slightest. But at this point I've just accepted the swigger balance team is smoking Crack. Heavy sword and vigilant autogun nerfs lmfao.
If I pay hard cash for a class I expect it to carry me through Auric. Simple as.
>>574532194>>rolling steel again>retards have zdps for the horde at the medicae>2 die immediately after the medicae>leave with the guarantee that they'll wipeI shan't carry
>>574532303>uhm ackchually you don't knowYou resorting to this already tells me I won the argument. Arbites regening toughness out the ass while having ogryn levels of DR, while having the dog isn't an issue. It's balanced for the game.Only time the dog was OP was when the sweggers in their infinite wisdom made it so that all the arbites +% damage nodes applied to the dog and the bleed damage as well, which broke the game because you had a walking bleed nuke that did flame staff levels of damage. And on top the dog bleed was still unnerfed too and the dog could apply bleeds to enemies around it while;>pouncing OFF the floor>flying through the air towards the target>pouncing ON the target and enemies around the targetBut instead of just removing the damage node interaction would've reigned shit back in. Instead the devs decides to to full retard and they made the razor jaw basically useless.Shit like Canine Morale isn't even the OP shit. It's one of the few things the devs got right first time around and made it balanced.
>>574532767>having an entire melty over itnot reading it, not responding to the content of your post, you have already proven to be a schizo retard, I'm not spoonfeeding retards anymore
>>574532279no, hosting your own lobby instead of leeching off of low level aurics is pointless if all you care about is penances
>>574532619My favourite Rolling Steel run with randoms was>Surprisingly smooth start, rolling though everything easily>Reach the Power Cell part>Go grab the one on top of the cart>About to cross over to the last cart to insert the cell>Get sniped by double snipers that spawned on the other side of the train>"Oh gee oh fuck">Ally rushes in to rez me>Gets sniped>Second teammate rushes over to rez us>Gets sniped>Final teammate runs over but notices the snipers. Awkwardly just fights the horde until he is overwhelmed and dies next to us
Is the Havoc level I see next to people's names in the Mourningstar their clearance or assignment level?
>>574533110Clearance. You need a mod to see their assignment level.
>>574526552you don't have time to consciously think>oh crap, trapper net sound>I need to dodgethis shit has to be muscle memory. I realized my survivability has improved massively lately because I've started pushing dogs, dodging nets and sidestepping mutants I can't see but that took over a hundred hours of playing the game and visually avoiding these threats to burn into my brain
>>574532194>>574532619>No more free auric carries>I shan't carry
>>574532952I am the last guy every time I run a build that isn't good at deleting snipers. They always spawn all the way down the fucking hallway and are behind a million enemies I can't even find them by tag spamming half the timethat's why I hate rolling steel so much the randos never do the fucking objectives and they're always falling behind and dying to random mob enemies
>>574533748Correct. I have zero interest in playing single player with 3 maliceniggers like (You) that can't survive even as all 3 huddled together. I could solo the entire level, but why bother? Co-op game my ass.
>>574529765>some phenomenon I'm not used to where teams are losing more than they normally are.you move fast and don't hold aggro so everyone else on the team has more enemies on them all the time. even if you're killing the enemies they still have a window in which they can do damageever play taunt ogryn and notice how everyone seems to take fuck all damage? well it's the same in reverse.
>>574534248also scum doesn't really help teammates with toughness regen. so if you're just shooting everything before they get a chance to melee kill it they get no way to recharge if they don't have good passives
>>574533994you'd think with the skitty they can at least do the hacks or pick people up remotely but nope, tards gonna tard
Crosshair remap is quietly the most broken hack on Nexus.
>>574534046Nah. I'm an uprisingCHAD.
>>574534779>rolling steel>2 skittles>one doesn't have skull>the other doesn't use and just stands next to the objective shooting at bruisers with the garand>try to do objective>hit esc and press leave
>>574528292>I straight up can't carry this shit.>>574528689>choke a bit if they're ever asked to slow down. For example stopping to pickup teammates who can't help but die every 20 seconds, or stand still to do an objective like hack the terminal.>>574529765>or because this is some phenomenon I'm not used to where teams are losing more than they normally areScum goes naturally fast and kills everything in the way.Retards go unnaturally slow and kill everything reinforcing from behind.High DPS players position forward and kill every pre-spawned elite on the map, and all of the reinforcements, while keeping up temporary buffs by moving between packs.Newfag malicelet shitters that accidentally stumbled their way into auric check every corner for 20 plasteel but can't even block or fight 2 poxers, much less move at the same time, so they get bogged down and "hold the line" with a back against their wall then eat shit because they don't shoot the flamer in time and now have nowhere to move.You are all the way -------> over there dealing more damage than the rest of the team combined bouncing between enemy packs, while your shitters are playing a COMPLETELY different (mini)game: Survive the 2 poxers at their back while trying to farm a spawn door for Poxbreaker (they think it's the greatest title ever) (it's the only way they can get kills in auric because they suck so fucking much)Scum may be the single very worst class of them all when it comes to solo carrying an entire run because you have>too little in the way of raw regen/DR stats to tank through gunners while doing objectives>no stun resist to tank through poxers while doing objectives>no easy or powerful aoe to bail out downed shitters unless you take blinders>but then you aren't taking AIDS nades for objectives, or RPG to kill crushers before they kill your retards>generally very low stats so you also down if you make 1 mistake (your retards will never help you)
>>574534046>implying you could
>go into uprising to quickly finish some melk assignments for the week>some quick rolling steel speed runs on my psyker>shredder runs really fast and can shoot while sprinting>chain axe to obliterate the boss>what could go wrong>realize now I made the build before vanguards were introduced>find myself choked into a corner by TWELVE vanguards>why the game can even spawn this many, nobody knows>chain axe doesn't even do anything against them>whack whack bounce>bite, shield tanks it>in fucking UPRISING>actually take a minute to clear the objective of enemies to a degree where I could even put down the servo skull>the hotmicing snoy still hasn't kept up>bots would've helped me clear this out fasterSo are the lower difficulties just giga cursed with unreasonable amounts of vanguard spam completely invalidating builds that can't just rape them with aoe shit? I figured I could just run any random bullshit build to speedrun through the level, but I legitimately failed the DPS check against these shitters, in fucking uprising.
Rolling Steel is a complete waste of time. Who the fuck is doing it at level 30 and why? It's not even tense anymore because of the extra time they added forever and a day ago so that total shitters could beat it. No Man's Land is at least capable of being a battle of attrition. It sucks ass for resources just like Rolling Steel, but at least No Man's Land has several sections designed to wipe you that can actually do it, and the resource availability is designed to keep you rationing or else.
>>574535775>No Man's Land has several sections designed to wipe you that can actually do it,Rolling Steel wipes 70 IQ droolers because they farm the capsule plugin for minutes on end, either timing out or dying and then timing out.
>>574535775No man's land is also a unique map that that's fun whereas the train is just another black and gray with green lights hallway with fucking d*kane yammering in the background.
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>574535601If you're having this much trouble against vanguards on uprising then, regardless of your build, it's a skill issue.Embarrassing.
>>574536051Give me your montage of killing 12 vanguards and 40 moebians on psyker with a chain axe, oh almighty high skill god player.No cheating with shriek.
Skitarii is the strongest class.
>>574536187>>/wsg/6198089
>>574536042using aislop now Rajeesh??
>>574535775>quickplay>rolling steel>doing the minigame>"MAULER!!!">see the knoife zealot running the fuck away out of the corner of the screen>abort the minigame>barely dodge the overheaduseless fuck
>backdoored by silent CrushersI AM LOSING IT, MR. CRAB.
>>574536591>nowmmmnnnmmnn see you on tertium, ranjeet
>>574536314link properly dipshit>>>/wsg/6198089
>VANGUARDS could be here
>>574537072Send all the Vanguards you want, the Arc Rifle ignores their shield and I've got 80 rounds before I need to reload.
>>574537072rumblah sah
>>574506981Have the nuncio properly and loudly broadcast lex decrees for its full deployment. Not just errant short phrases once or twice
>>574537550Nuncio follows you around like the skull probe
>>574537618That sounds like it would be cool/useful, but might be seen as treading on the toes of the Skits
>It's a "Hadron belittling and insulting you for your incompetence" episode but the squad is all skitariiSo we... we weren't her little cogchamps after all...
>>574537674>Hadron still bitches about a lack of Skitarii on NMLBITCH, WE ARE RIGHT HERE.
>>574537674She's not comfortable with being nice or inspiring, please be patient.
I'm leveling my Arbites currently and I only get autogun after autogun. Fuck this shit I'm still using the starter shotgun
>>574537807I like the bolt pistol on arbites.
>>574537674reject mommy hadron, embrace grampa kayex
>>574537807Shotgun is your strongest weapon by far until you get melee talents
>>574537807>using its strongest ranged weaponNo Anon anything but that
>>574537674Sorry small indie Swedish studio does not have billions of money like Chinese gacha comapnies to record additional voicelines and talented programmers to have different voicelines for different classes on team.
>>574537865>>574537871I just want a better quality version
introduce the vanguard crusher, a crusher having vanguards strapped to his armor with shields and all
>>574537807Just buy a random arbitrator shotgun at weapon shop, upgrade to maybe purple. It'll carry you all the way to Heresy to have a good blessings and two additional damage boosts. Use your dog to snipe far away targets.Stats dont matter til Damnation.
>>574538101This feels like a weird Darktide version of a Copecage.
>guy picks up grimoire>idly passive-aggressively comment on it, it's annoying (because grim rewards aren't worth the stress) but we're stable enough>team starts tearing into the guy>he says he'll pick it up again if he dies just to spite us>dies>gets back up>goes to pick up grim>dies again>three of us immediately agree to leave his tantruming ass down>finish the mission with minimal problems
>it's another entire mission of "if I stop shooting for any reason whatsoever, the entire team gets overrun by armor because none of them have any DPS">not a single retard is doing the objective
>>574537807Go to the Army. brunts. Buy shotgun. Upgrade it with the robot lady. Use it in missions to level up mastery, then upgrade it again. Repeat.
>>574538549There's no way that I'll ever be able to stop maining skitarii. The servo skull does so much to help mitigate the frustrations of retarded teams.
redpill me on the heavy sword
>>574536042Let me inLET ME INNOW!!!!!!!!
>>574531958>>574531753Is it really? That would explain a lot actually>>574524556Strange image
>>574538961Using ammo on armor is retardedThe game spawns too much armor for you to rely on consumables to deal with themYou need your melee to deal with armor, heavy sword can't even tickle armor unless you FotF or spam rending on scum, both of which are copetastic and still massively underperform compared to other weaponsThe niche of instagibbing maniacs isn't relevant, other weapons horde clear better too>TL;DRIt's very shit
>>574539097yeah and the arbites maul male voices the bearmen unts
>>574532797I accept your concession.
Someone talk me out of importing a 1995 mx-5 mazda roadster
>>574539462Looks like it has a funny face the front
>>574538508Grims disappear if you die with them tho
>>574538814>12 Downs >3 Rescues>1 Game>didn't have to touch a single faggot because the skull did it for meYou'd have to rip this class out of my cold, dead hands. The best part is knowing that there isn't really much to nerf. Fatshark will come back, do their pass to fix things and make a few adjustments and then forget the class exists for the next 12 months since they'll need to work on the next 4 Ogryn nerfs.
>>574539892When you need to go scrounge for 3 (THREE) grenade pickups just to replenish the healy skull, I think it's time to fucking leave the mission and leave the retards to wipe. They do not deserve the carry.
Well done, I SUPPOSE
>>574540140I had it under control. If I was feeling pressed by their constant dying, I would have left.
>>574540403>I had it under control.Irrelevant, you are further shitting up auric by enabling these retards.
>>574540228I get tired of the snark
>>574540639millenial writing coupled with fs employees letting some steam out
>hear lines from Swagger I don't think I've ever heard before where he asks if we're jealous of his hobo outfit Who the fuck made this guy? I'd delete him from the game before Masozi. He's so god damn gay.
My zealot looks so big and strong I want to get amazon positioned by her
>>574540639It's fun when you're level 10 or below but they really should've recorded some lines for when you're a badass and everyone's sucking and polishing your cock in the mourningstar but the mission still calls you a little reject niggerfaggot
>>574540738Anon, she shares the same body as the rest of the manlets. You have to wait until Sister of Battle for that.
>>574540843But anon, that would require at least 3 vacations worth of actual work. Fatshark can't even get their most anticipated DLC right.>overly smart and wordy plebbit ogryn goes "LOOK AT THE VETERAN GO!" when a skitty gets a kill streak
>>574540843>butthurt that the imaginary NPCs don't praise youNgmi
>>574540942Please don't try to defend incompetence from a game studio with this weak ass bait, anon. You're better than this.
>praising is reddit
>>574540843The problem is that they intended for the mission retards to treat your group differently depending on where they were in terms of like, the story, or level, or whatever. You can quickly see how Fatshark realized that trying to make this sensible across 4 different player characters would be impossible (for them). That's why it never materialized and we're all Reject faggots who have never accomplished anything even though they have this whole "storyline" now where our operative is extremely battle hardened and should be addressed with at least a modicum of respect by these cretins.
>>574541059>the only time this ugly dyke Zola complimented us was to use it against Rannick
>>574541059You've adequately described why darktide is grimderp.>rape your way through 20 trillion heretics>still get shit on and called reject
>>574538209>Stats dont matter til Damnation.depends on the class. ogryn doesn't give a fuck even in auric.
>>574540720>foundryplex sideways elevator>everyone immediately rushes swagger in his cuck corner and starts pummeling the shit out of himthe only good part of that mission
>>574541317Shit it even depends on the weapon. Dump stats don't really make that big of a difference on most weapons even in fucking havoc. The most noticeable ones are shit like low mag weapons that get +1-2 bullets with high ammo stat, or psyker's peril related stuff where having high/low peril may be desirable for different reasons.Yes, even having 60% damage doesn't really affect most weapons in that meaningful of a way if your build already hits high enough damage numbers.Now, of course, anyone would and should decline the retard who has completely nonsensical random stats on their gear because it's a sign that the user doesn't care to optimize and thus doesn't even belong, but that's a different subject.
>>574541296Before Auric was first added, there was the Auric Fist weapon ornament. This led to a lot of speculation that we would eventually rank up in the warband to being an Auric Operative. That this would have some of meaningful effect on us as players in terms of missions, equipment, etc. This was backed up by the Chasm Terminus mission where both Zola and Morrow would inform the player that the ammo we were collecting was special ammunition that was consigned to Auric Operatives who needed it more. Then Auric released, nothing happened, and people bent themselves into pretzels trying to explain this away. I still remember three years ago at this point arguing with people that Fatshark were lazy Swedes ruining their own game, only to be told that just because we could now do Auric difficulty missions that didn't make us Auric Operatives and that eventually we would be, we just had to wait.
>>574541772I wonder how Mortis Operatives fit into things
>>574541950Isn't that just havoc?
>the bar area that Fatshark made will never be added to the MourningstarI hate them.
>>574541038It's not incompetence. Your character is a shitter, always was, always will be.If you don't like play another game.
>>574541296It's accurate to the Imperium. You are a worthless retard meant to die in the service of the Emperor.40k is grimderp.
Sounds like none of you guys even like 40k actually, and just play it because it is a tide game.
>>574542704Yeah.Sorry.
>>574537765I think it still reads fine because now it's like she's tsk-tsk'ing about grendyl being wrong because of how much ass her new skittyboys are kicking.
how the fuck do I progress into staff psyker? what's the correct build + way to learn?I can play melee + gun and do acceptably well in damnation/auric because it just plays like any other human class but when I try to bring staff above heresy I eat shit
>>574543610You know the flame staff? Okay.
>>574533994Someone told me jumping when you shoot helps hit those snipiggers on that map, I haven't really been able to tell if it does though. But oh lordy does it feel good when I have my Big Iron phosphor pistol equipped and I get that mission. It feels amazing to launch a crit shot down the length of the train at a sniper and have it manstopper through 50 fuckers to blow his head off.
>>574542704>one retard spouts an opinion unprompted>"YOU ALL."Tiresome.
>>574540843>play dark communion>"Trust me, they'll survive if only to prove you wrong!"Just admit you're waiting for a compliment from Hadron specifically.
>>574543721unrelated but now I'm skimming through more search results from "Cowboy mechanicus" that I used to get that image, and fuck this shit is cool. I don't know much about the TTG, do they have official cowboy-western models or is this like fancy kit-bash stuff going on here?Words cannot describe how much I would have came if we got an outfit like this instead of "skitarii but hood down" bullshit
>>574541059idk I definitely got the sense that we were gaining respect from our handlers as the campaign missions went on, it's just that once you're out of the campaign's structure and the handlers start randomizing, it loses any sense of coherency
>>574543656well duh I am trying to run it but I just can't get enough value out of it, I either have shitty damage at the end of the game if we win and someone else carries or I can't DPS enough and my team gets split up/dies to horde and then I'm stuck with a shitty build for meleeI think my fundamental issue is that psyker is squishy and if I can't pull my weight in DPS output then that makes my team vulnerable and then myself vulnerable when the team gets fucked. So I need to learn how to effectively use the staff.
>>574544030They've got these dudes, which the shopslop for skitters is based on.Probably not too complicated to kitbash a cowboy from these.
>>574544256Ah that makes sense. What with stuff like viking space marines, I couldn't put it past GW to actually make something like this. How sick would a robot-cowboy western forge world be?
>>574542704YUP
>Switch from screen-clearing builds like the arc rifle and PBB ogryn to a meme build>Suddenly my teammates being braindead actually matters
>>574544030Well, this feels like a time for me to shoehorn in my schizo theory. Fatshark changed the shop from being every class in a single row, to putting the standard classes in one tab and the DLC classes in another tab. People have been asking why the fuck Fatshark just seemingly refuses to add cosmetics for the Arbites and Scum, and now presumably the Skitarii. The reason, after I thought about it for a while, was that they would be accidentally be creating a problem for themselves. If they had routinely added a new outfit for the Arbites every two weeks, this would put the Arbites ahead of all the other DLC classes by a huge margin in terms of cosmetics. Then the Scum would be far ahead of the Skitarii, and so on. It's a content gap problem. What's the solution then? Well, Fatshark changed their tune from having a bunch of ideas for classes after the Scum was released to (paraphrasing) "we plan on releasing one more class and then focusing on other content". Once they release the final class, that puts the DLC classes on the same footing as the regular ones. Which means they can alternate between the two. Perhaps not every two weeks for DLC, but once we have all four they can release cosmetics for them concurrently. This puts everyone on the same footing, and none of the DLC class players bitch at Fatshark about one DLC class getting cosmetics and another one doesn't. If GW lets them play as loose with the DLC cosmetics as they have for the standard classes, you might see some really silly shit. All of this is of course couched in Fatshark wanting to make money and having a long-term vision. Neither are good bets, but that's why this is a schizo theory.
>>574546623Your "schizo theory" smells an awful lot like medical grade copium, anon. I could use a huff or two of that too if we're talking about DLC class cosmetics
>>574544124Just watch any video on it. It's the simplest weapon in the entire game and it's also hypothetically the one capable of doing the most damage out of any weapon in the entire game provided you have enough things to kill. Psyker is a glass cannon like the Scum. Both can do absurd damage, but fold very easily if you don't know what you're doing. Luckily, the absolute minimum you need to know to pilot the Psyker can be found from just watching a few vids.
>>574546623There are no cosmetics for DLC classes because there just aren't, they don't want to make them. Even the ones for the base classes are starting to look like mashups and recolors of older sets.
>>574546794A lot of psyker's glass-cannon-ness is solved by taking Just a Dream with 3 health curios (and thus shrugging off even bursters) and invalidating the need for toughness by critmaxxing with Empathic Evasion or whichever one lets you dodge bullets on a crit.
>>574546794>Psyker is a glass cannon like the Scum.It can be really sturdy if you're doing a scryer's melee build. I don't know about staves though, they all feel like shit to me, bring back Sienna's laser staff NOW
>>574546623We all know that fatshark is too stupid to plan out something like this.The real answer is just that GW is cockblocking fatshark for some dumbass, petty as fuck reason we can only guess at.
>>574546758I just can't think of why else they would jam the DLC classes up in that corner and hard stop at 4. Unless they plan on falling back on the DLC classes as a second source of passive income. Fatshark survives off the slopshop. We know this to be true because they put more effort into the Ogryn cosmetics than any other class because the Ogryn players are their biggest whales, and they have seen firsthand already what happens to their income when the Ogryn players stop buying slop. If they want to spread the risk around a bit more, then bringing the DLC classes into the fold after they have 4 of them locked down would be the right time to do it. My guess is that rather than standard rotations, they'll just do Premium Cosmetics for the DLC classes that way they have greater license and can get away from each class necessarily being from the same regiment, for instance. That obviously won't work.
>>574547071>I just can't think of why else they would jam the DLC classes up in that corner and hard stop at 4.Tucking it away out of sight so newer players don't notice how shit-lazy they're being neglecting what is now almost half the roster.
>>574547071If they really wanted my money they would put willet back in the store NOW
>>574547028>GW blocks a swedish company from WORKING
>>574547028Let me dream.
>>574547028SM2 has a similar amount of cockblocking and I'm honestly surprised how much Owlcat got away with in comparison.I wonder how CA's tww40k is going to look like but considering how fantasy wen they're probably hedging more bets on people buying straight up factions instead of cosmetics, even though sm2 has a pretty vocal (but could be minor idk) base of people that will genuinely buy all the cosmetic packs if they just released good ones.
>>574547071>I just can't think of why else they would jam the DLC classes up in that cornerTo separate them into another tab and separate them from the 4 original classes. The other tab being reserved for "classes that will never ever get new cosmetics, so stop asking."And they certainly did this because they knew certainly how embarrassing it is to look at both arby and scum while they are right next to the 4 original classes who all keep getting new cosmetics.
>>574547360There's snow on the Steam page.
why do I get so many havoc applications from redditclaw skittles with meme powersword
>>574547686a youtuber shilled it
>>574547743why would someone shield a bugged weapon that doesn't do damage
>>574547360They really arent.Fatshark doesn't even make cosmetics in-house at all, basically most if not at all are outsourced to some chinese sweatshop studio.>but why isn't chinese sweatshop making cosmeticsBecause they haven't heen commissioned to.And they haven't been commissioned by Fatshark because GW hasn't given the greenlight to make more cosmetics for DLC classes.
>>574547476While plausible, it now creates a filter for people who buy the class and don't know how to navigate the shop. If you don't notice that small tab, you won't be able to look at the meager slop for the class you just purchased. We all do, but replace your brain with the average new player who can't even crack Heresy.
>>574547743I haven't seen anyone except for a guy with a few hundred views shill the MPS. They probably just want to be different.
>>574547686Chudclaw is extremely strong.
>>574547775>it now creates a filter for people who buy the class and don't know how to navigate the shopAnd that is by design. There's only 1 cosmetic for arby in the premium shop, the heresylets will be much more slower to catch on that arby won't get any more cosmetics.Also shit like arbites is already DLC anyway, so fatshark already made their money off the heresylet who bought the class.And not like they'll make any more money off the arby heresylet anyway, since GW is clearly saying "No" to any and all premium cosmetics for DLC classes.Can't make any money if there's nothing to sell.
seems like its silent poxbursters that dont fall backwards when pushed day today
>>574548225The cosmetic outfit in the store costs more than the class does. That's how they keep the studio running.
>>574547765because it does do damage, sometimes
>>574547686chudclaw is the only thing in their toolkit that lets them immediately get out of a shitty situation at the press of a button
>>574547686They're bad and don't know better.
>>574548757>press Voltaic button and shuts down everything in a 12m radius
>>574548757>chudclaw is the only thing in their toolkitDclaw parry, plasma gun boom>>574548904 tooEven unupgraded VE stuns anything next to you.Doesn't the top right keystone also zap things when you kill enough?
>>574548327thats every single day
>>574548954still a terrible node
>>574548954Yes, but you can't exactly time that to get out of a bad situation. Just smashing Voltaic makes everything stop.
>>574549091I confess I've only used the keystone for the penance and went right back to Flensing because nothing beats crit + attack speed, and it even has the best capacitance generation.Redline strength stacking is great too but not really my style.
>>574547686>Why do I get so many applications from weapon specialist vets with DS, shredder grenades and no field improv>Why does every single zealot applying get blazing piety, but vehemently refuse to get the teamwide crit subnode>why do the crate scums applying all have 5% viscosity stimsPlayers are overwhelmingly retarded, more news at 10.
How is the power sword bugged?
>>574549325Why do YOU need my crits mr welfare
>>574549421The Mechanicus one currently isn't having its Finesse stat applied to its damage, but the Finesse blessings apparently still work. This is obviously fucking terrible for a weapon whose moveset basically just wants you to stab shit in the head.
>>574549517It's COOPERATIVE GAME YOU NIGGEEEERRRRRetarded anon needs male pregnancy correction
>>574546794>It's the simplest weapon in the entire gamesure it's simple to sit there and cast but the problem is actually doing any meaningful damage with it. I always fall into one of two extremes>team runs ahead and kills everything faster than I can set up my casts>team gets overrun because they aren't that good and I can't DPS everything down for them as intendedthe videos just tell you how to set up the staff and talents, but nobody ever gives much in the way of useful tips for practicing and getting better at actually using the thing in real gamesI can survive on heresy but my damage is always very low (~250-300k), and if I try to go above I usually just get overrun
Am bored, do any of you need help with some private penances or the ones which require to hit 80 targets? I can tauntgryn
>>574549849What will that do?
>>574548327
>>574547686Because I prefer to occasionally (very rarely) scratch things rather than occasionally (very rarely) fart lightning due to spending most of my capacitance on noosy.
>>574549283IMO Flensing doesn't work well with Voltaic because if you lose stacks, you have to either:>Kill specials/elites (if your team is good your teammates are doing this too, and might do it before you)>Pop your ability using that node that refreshes stacks on ability useThe second option isn't a big deal with Chordclaw or Aimbot but dumping 2-3 charges on Voltaic just to get your damage/crit back doesn't feel good.So, I always run Redline with Voltaic. Plus, the extra charge capacity means you can be more liberal with Noosphere skull, too.Power Overload feels like it doesn't do anything other than occasionally zapping some dudes but I think that just means it's working.
voltaic pisscharge
>>574548330And that doesn't matter since they already got money from the DLC sale, but also regardless they can't make anymore money off the class anyway since they can't make cosmetics.
>>574550320What happens at "mootash farg" o'clock?
>>574549325>why do the crate scums applying all have 5% viscosity stimsWaiting for that scum right now btw
>>574551572here's my upvote, I'll remember your name each time you post here
>>574551659nigger
>>574551428
>>574524556who the fuck don't like blue cheeses?!
>>574551572XD dude foamy the squirrel seal of approval
>>574552860>foamy the squirrelDon't fucking make me remember that
>>574551572I can already tell you will be bitching in the future about getting ban hammer from the devs.
>>574553374>NOOOOOOOO THE WORD IS BAAAAAAAAADGrow up, genuinely
>>574537618I think the nuncio aquilla should follow you at a slow speed and only stop moving if you press the button again
>>574553374>be objectively racist and toxic because you feel obligated to do so as a 4chan user>get offended when people say you are being offensive.
>>574549325I will happily click on infectious zeal if someone else plays with 29 talentsOh they won't? They won't give up a single talent point to give the whole team 10% crit? Then I guess I won't either
>>574551572why did you post this
>>574524881>also adult rats can't digest lactose which causes problems tooThat depends on the cheese. Some cheeses have practically no lactose making them suitable for consumption by most lactose intolerants.
>>574553805>he would rather have his teammates play with 29 talent points than get cd reduction, toughness boost, tauntsnownigger mindset
>>574551572least unstable /copegger/
>>574554764They can provide all of those things with 29 points, all they have to do is skip one of the personal damage or quality of life talents to give 3 people 10% crit
>using non-canon cosmetic combinations or skitarii eye colourskicked
>>574556485>branx hat>ryza coat>stygies pantsyep, time to game
Haven't played Darktide before, but I played a shit ton of VT2Do any of the voices for Zealot or Lex measure up to Saltzpyre? I guess what I'm asking is which male voice from Zealot and Arbites (the two chud classes) is the best?
>>574556839Banter i quite nice in DT in my most humble opinion.
i want to loog in havoc
>>574557343what?
I think I'm about to have cardiac arrest bros.
>>574557891Have you tried calling an ambulance?
>>574556839Even the best Darktide banter isn't as strong as the characters in Vermintide. Making it so would require CRPG amounts of recorded dialogue.
>>574556839>ArbitesMaul personality is loved by most, then male Fatalist for some sarcasm tone>ZealotIn my experience, male Judge is the most popular male personality. Because I see more people play female (Fanatic) Zealot more than male, coping bootleg SoB choice. Though people play Zealots less thesedays because they become more of a supportive role, same as Vet.
>>574557891Did you try turning it off and back on
>>574556839Not really. It's hard to do good banter when the rejects aren't actual characters.
>>574558354:(
>>574558204>Though people play Zealots less thesedays because they become more of a supportive role, same as Vet.Used to love slaughtermaxxing when the second eviscerator got added to the game.These days I feel like Skitarii has most of the tools that my old zealot needed to function. The only thing he doesn't have is a dash, but an on-command radial stun is arguably better. Arc Rifle, Phospor pistol, and even the Galvanic rifle are suitable replacements for my bolt pistol, too.
>>574558354nyoo...
is it good to heavily invest on the zapping ability for skit
:,(
>>574559227I should never grade evils but xbogs are a lesser tragedy in the making than sonyponies in my experience
>>574559197It depends on the build but it's generally pretty good since being able to instantly stun anything short of a monstrosity is pretty good.
>>574559508It's an old screenshot I took when Xbugs were added to the game
>>574559508>xbogs are a lesser tragedy in the making than sonyponies in my experienceThat's because it's possible to play on PC with an xbox account, and many apparently do.
>>574559713>That's because it's possible to play on PC with an xbox account, and many apparently do.Oh damn, now I feel bad for filtering applicants out just because I saw the xbox symbol, I had no clue.
>>574551572You're as dumb as him for doing this through text chat.
>>574556839Alongside the issue of having so many different personalities, a lot of the time you just don't get the chance to hear any banter in game because it gets drowned out by automatic callouts and the like.
>have a cheat that shows me what penances my cosmetics are from>see this>0/1Damn I guess I really didn't beat havoc
>>574556839>male voice from Zealot and ArbitesWe only play females here anon.
we do?
>>574563026No way, fag.
All my characters are female because the PC skeletons are based on twinks.>mfw no ultra muscular catachan chud for my heterosexual fantasy
>>574556839The biggest issue is that the banter is stretched super thin. I'm going to use the term 'banter cues' for extended strings of dialog where they just shoot the shit, rather than callouts for shits to shoot.Saltzpyre might have four different banter cues with Kruber, where a third party like Kerillian might chime in too if present. And unique ones for certain maps and the Chaos Wastes.In Darktide you only have one, maybe two banter cues per two personalities, and they always happen in their own bubble without additional rejects chiming in. Map-specific dialog for rejects happens at the beginning and nowhere else, in recent map additions they've forgone this entirely. I don't envy the VA manager for the absolute trench they've dug themselves into.I frame these arguments without going into the flatness of their background because that's subjective and I genuinely think a lot of them have done superb jobs for how limitedly they can take the characters.
>>574563218>he wants to have a male in his ears all dayfaggot
>>574564158>He willingly listens to w*men speakgay gay homogay.
>>574563542>I frame these arguments without going into the flatness of their backgroundLike I said earlier, you would need CRPG amounts of dialog and more opportunities to use it if you wanted each player's reject to act as fleshed out as Saltz, Kruber, etc. The background stuff that the player chooses for their reject doesn't really factor in at all (unless you pick a Cadian vet) and really just serves to introduce the player to grimdark realities of a normal person's life in 40k.
>>574563149It's pretty common for 4chan to play as a girl when a game has the option to choose what gender they wish they were.
>>574564369yeah but moot wanted to be the little girl and he was a jew-propped schizo, so what does that mean for the rest of them?
>>574564369guess it's the effect of anime, I wouldn't know: the only slice of life I've seen was Diamond is Unbreakable
>>574564369that's just you buddy. if you're cute you can be my little femboy/transgirl fucktoy
YOU'RE ALL GAY! HOMOS! SISSIES! I CURSE YOU CURSE YOU CURSE YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
>>574564315For me it's cadian non-cutthroat, just so they can pull the cutthroat off his high horse when he starts ranting
>>574564809very evil very nice
>>574564690I'm starting to agree with this idea that anime turns men into very feminine and even trans at times. 4chan is, or at the very the least, was a anime website first and foremost so it's pretty common for it to be filled with people wanting to be women. Not to say all people who play as girls wish to be them, but the vast majority do.
>hate Darktide unfinished state>play another game instead>want to go back to DarktideGrim...
>>574565646>anime turns men into very feminine and even trans at timesIt's just an overlap of>autists like anime>anime likers are often autistic>autists are most predisposed to trans themselves>most trannies are highly autisticthe venn diagram just happens to overlap a lot because both groups are autistic, and there's some bias because the most obnoxious tranime posters are all trannies
is it me or pumped up is a silent OP ogryn talnet
>>574565646most guys load into an action video game and make an idealized chad version of themselves, especially if it's a first person gamethere's definitely something funky with your brain if your first thought is>yes of course I will make a small weak rapemeat girl character with a high pitched sissy voice and play as her on a battlefield full of big muscular guys coming to overpower her
>>574565902Good effort retard-kun, that was ALMOST coherent. But try again!
>>574565902>>574565995don't listen to him big man I got what you're saying.
I want this but without the voice changer
>>574565971>greentextyou sound incredibly brown
>>574566096thank you sah>>574566114isn't there an setting next to the skit voice changer one
>>574566114I wish the dlc classes got more paypiggie cosmetics. I guess I can understand Arbby not getting any cause what can you do with them really, but Hive Scum and not Sketti could get new various paypggies outfits.
>>574565768>unfinishedhuh? even vt2 is unfinished then because its still receiving weapon changes and maps
>>574566294certainly not receiving any new weapons ahaha
>>574566180Damn you're right anon. Thanks you saved me>>574566262Yeah for Arbitrator it's really only like 5 items
>>574564814the chill cadian vet and the ogryn brawler are good frens playing in a team with them makes me feel like I have frens too
>>574566335n...next year...
>>574567535I wonder how badly it hurts rats to get their ear ripped like that. I know it would be crazy painful for a human
Arbites needs more coat cosmetics. The current one is too light looking.
>>574566467Hive would at least be east for Fatshark to make more cosmetics for. Just more Fallout/Mad Max tier raider outfits. Skibbi would also just be more robo parts, but for Judge Dredd, I can't think of much they can do besides maybe different and darker coats like wants >>574567720
>>574565872>>574565646>>574564690It’s more like the idea of ‘traps’ in particular was heavily popularized in recent years and on the surface level there’s pretty much no difference between them and troons so of course they move in to co-opt it. Big tragedy.
>>574567720>>574568094It's as easy as just using the old arbites design as a basis for some cosmetics. They can't even say "oh it's because of copyright", this design is more like Robocop than it is Judge Dredd
>>574539462You need to save up for a proper vintage car>>574541059It’s honestly depressing just how much they planned to do with this game that they did away with because they bit off more than they could chew
>>574543389Yeah it actually seems more fitting if you read into it like that lol>>574543781True
Why would you ever pick the boltpistol over the boltgun anyways?
>>574539462>importingIf you lived in a first-world country you could just find a clean one.
>>574570421Way less clunky (faster draw speed and reload)Ammo efficiency (no forced burst fire)Easier to hipfireThe best/easiest comparison to make is with not the boltgun, but the precision revolver. It has a much faster reload and bigger magazine.
>>574570421faster to equip
>>574570421Faster draw time, faster reload. Lethal Proximity for general explosion size increase.
>>574545876this anime is kinda funny>>574546623>If they had routinely added a new outfit for the Arbites every two weeksthey could just add them at a slower pace than that, i don’t think anyone is expecting a rate that quick from Fatshark as is
>havoc mission went from 0 to 100 when a captain, a chaos spawn, and the twins all spawned in at the same timethis was havoc 25 or so
>>574544030>>574544256>>574544458I always imagined that there are low tech worlds out there that pretty much resemble old western set pieces, maybe relics from the DaoT age or something, could make for a cool game setting
>>574558131>>574558298>>574562237>>574563542well that's unfortunateso I guess you really just judge the voices by two things then1) the apparent quality of the voice acting2) whether you like their surface level personality or not>>574558204thank you for being the only person to actually answer my question
>>574566262i just wish they got more recolors and variations. like a cape'd arbites torso without the seals
>>574571271Fem maul arbitrator is voiced by Kerillian's VA btw
>>574571754I guess Kerilian is a chuda femcel chudette
>>574553473got his ass>>574559508that’s the polar opposite of the case for me the game barely even works on their platform from what i can tell
>>574553374It’s never not funny when people use the default s0i jaks like this and completely miss their point
>>574541296grimderp isn't real
>>574566180>isn't there an setting next to the skit voice changer oneIsn't the setting just on the player's end though?
>>574550657>losing your flensing stacksJust don't get hit
>>574570421What the others said plus faster sprint speed. Using a pistol as a sidearm can be very useful when you're using a low mobility melee weapon.
>>574550657Flensing is up at full stacks 90% of the time
>try to cheese flensing fury on expeditions and immediately leaving>don't get it >play a regular mission>get it first try
>decide to try a havoc 1 for shits and giggles>haven't even played auric maelstrom yet>the game is full of jobber enemies but there's like 5 times as many of them as usual and there are multiple bosses, multiple hexbound daemonhostswtf this was actually a really fun mission even if it was malice difficulty, there's constantly something going on and something to dois the point of havoc that there's so much more shit to fight?
>>574564315>background stuff that the player chooses for their reject doesn't really factor in at all (unless you pick a Cadian vet)Yeah, it's not like anybody else even has lines to mention where they are from. I get why, it easily hits a few hundred lines to write and record just to have your rejects be able to go>Man, I miss [Home Planet A]. The [thing from home planet] was so [adjective].>Bah, that's nothing to [thing from home planet] from [Home Planet B].but it is a shame that it makes the galaxy feel like there is two places you can be from, that being Cadia and anywhere else.
>>574572147>>574572519I know, but sometimes I'm running a power outage and get hit by something I couldn't see or get caught out by shooters and take damage I didn't expect to take. Flensing is of course at its best if you are able to play perfectly 100% of the time.
>>574572876>is the point of havoc that there's so much more shit to fight?Enemies spawn in escalating quantity, while you receive escalating debuffs, with really bad ones at 20+ and then 30+ where CBT mode is enabled.
>>574572876Yep. That's the point.
>>574572876Yeah, it's the game mode for people who are too stimmied out and fried their dopamine receptors and now find auric too boring. Starting at like 25 is when you start to get the real cancer modifiers and instant death gunners
>>574572876Havoc is an increasingly tedious game mode. it just gets boring.
Why sometimes people don't follow the skull in Archivum? What to do beside helping me scan stuffs?
>Doing the train mission>The game randomly decides me and someone else in my team phases through a wall to "fall off" the trainWhat the fuck is wrong with this game
>>574576781I've been bogged down in the rager patrol that spawns directly after but only once
>>574576781>>574577151If anyone's on their last wound I like to make space so they have a chance to take the medicae unmolested.Half of the time they don't and instead eat shit and I have to go pick them up at the respawn point. Luckily the skull travels near there after the first batch of scans so it's not much of a detour.
>>574569302>this design is more like Robocop than it is Judge DreddRobocop used to be more like Judge Dredd
>>574573249True. Maybe with a company with more money we could have something better and more extensive.
I'm starting to believe this shit just isn't possible.Like even with a perfect team speedrunning everything sooner or later someone will go down, not even due to their own fault but simply due to swedish bullshit giving you unwinnable situation. I had dozens of runs with one down only but I still can't fucking get this dogshit Penance.
>>574579658It's really down to luck with randoms. One of those penances that you might get in your first couple of tries, or it might take 2 months to get it.
>>574578376>all dystopian police trace back to Judge DreddIt's funny
>>574565902I like it, uptime mod says its always up and I've found it useful for my tank build.
>Male Fanatic>Relic Bladeoh yeahgaming time
>>574583203I miss pre-chink update For Honor
>>574583623pre CCU had a lot of "soul", but was definitely an objectively worse pvp experienceit's easy to put on rose tinted glasses and look past the turtle meta where everyone just stared at each other unless they played a character capable of performing some out-of-lock tech for unparryable attacksthe modern game is bad for other reasons, but I'd still call it better than pre-CCUit is getting better though>most recent warriors den finally broke Orochi's kneecaps so he finally has to use his brain to do well>previous WD nerfed pirate pretty hard so now shes just A tier instead of S+>zerk also received a nerf to his dodge recovery spam (same one orochi got)it's getting betterbut theres still a lot of unchecked bullshit the devs seem unwilling to address
>>574578376>>574580195>>574569302Dredd owns all, truly…
>>574584371including your bussyMANDATED EDICT: SODOMY
This build good for H40 bro?Don't decline me broor I'm gonna trace you bro
>>574585927>reddit watermark
>>574586243What the fuck kind of 2001 media player UI is this
>>574586385that's og warfame, so about 2013 era
>>574586243okay but what about my h40 build?
lights off condition would be good if every gun had a flashlight
>>574586680please carry me
Man Sunday gamers SUCK
>>574586767imagine how satisfying it would be to melt a boss with money shot
why does arbites get to have fashion this good?
>>574589334greatcoats...
>>574589334>>574589429>>574589812everyone runs like they've shit themselves in this game so I don't think fashion much matters
What even is the purpose of the double barrel shotgun? It feels stupidly weak
>>574586920Don’t disrespect our dad gamers!
>>574506142they are tho?
>>574589429I got this shit but it doesn't feel right wearing such fancy clothes as my psyker. I do like the fit for chorus zealot though, feels like I'm an inquisitor leading a retinue into battle
>>574590261larp
>>574590261two niches come to mindfirstWeapon Specialist Veteran>get guranteed crits from Ranged Specialist>also get a guranteed round loaded from the Always Prepared talent when activating Ranged Specialist>have the Man Stopper blessing your double barrelso you'll kill a couple enemies in melee, pull out the double barrel and unload a guranteed critical shot with infinite cleavethen you swap right back to meleedouble barrel shotgun leans the hardest into the doom eternal playstyle that Weapon Specialist promotesthe second niche that comes to mindgun psyker>True Aim lets you get a guranteed ranged critical hit for landing 5 weakspot hits (meaning melee)>pull out shotgun and unload with Man Stoppernot saying these are strong usesbut this is somethingthrow on Scattershot so that you're virtually guranteed to get a crit on the second attack if you do shoot twice
>>574590962good shit
>>574591573You can also do gimmicks with Desperado or Castigator Stance. I liked it as a side-arm for my tox blinder Scum without even needing Desperado, manstopper and scattershot made it great for blowing away hordes and getting lots of yummy grenade stacks, and the extra bullet from ammo jack goes a long way for making it feel less annoying to use.
>>574592332>Castigator Stanceoh shit I forgot about thatgetting a shell back on literally every kill is cool as hell
"hel" is the laziest fucking alternate word for hell. Really just felt like they were like "uhhhh what do we use instead when saying 'give them hell'... oh, i know!"
So shield has no reason to exist anymore on ogryn? If you want damage and cleave you just run pick, if you want cc you run paul
>>574592756Rolls off the tongue better than "give them chaos" and won't get you shot by the nearest loyalist
>>574592756Hel is just another spelling of the same wordat different points in history and in different regions it has been spelled with either one L or two L's
>>574592756how many times do you think satan has been recreated in the warp by the continuing relevance of the word "hell" only to get raped by chaos each time
>>574594178Sure but Hel from Norse myth wouldn't be used in the same meaning. I'm pretty sure it being used for 'helbrute' and 'heldrake' is just a safety edges filing off thing
>>574591660>>574589429Some of the best cosmetics honestly probably top 5
All these posts whining about havoc and how havoc players are weirdos, just sounds like sour grapes from players who lack the skill to play it
>>574595863yes yes, you're big special man, very good at video game. You realize you can play havoc and still admit it's a dogshit gamemode (true)
>>574595863If Havoccels could stay out of my Aurics I wouldn't need to bitch
>>574591573>Weapon Specialist VeteranHonestly I dunno how it works with that one either considering you can just use something like a bolt pistol or the revolver to actually nuke anything you want easily and then switch to something like the power sword or the chainaxe to murder everything else
>>574595524this one is also pretty decentZealot is rather lacking in the fashion department in comparison to Psyker and Vet
>>574589429>>574589334is there any psyker cosmetic that looks similar to the arbitrator here? I need it for LARP purposes.
what the actual fuark is this cosmetic
>>574597059Certified swedekino.
>>574596806this isnt the exact same, but it's still pretty decent
>>574597059who the FUCK tailored a commissar's coat in ogryn size? is there an ogryn commissar running around somewhere? after brunt I can believe these slabs serve fucking anywhere
>>574597595maybe it just belonged to a really big guy?
>>574597452It really suffers from the physics problem a lot of Fatshark's (or whatever third party studio they use) longer clothes do. The bottom of the chest piece puffs out to the sides, looks incredibly unnatural and silly as hell when the player character is moving.
Did havoc modifiers rotate today? Is blight still in?
>>574600731yeah its in
>>574600992Oh turns out it hasn't rotated yet. Guess we'll know in about half an hour
>reach clearance level 24>Denied out of every clearance level 25 even when there's only the host in the lobbySo is this the point where hosts reject everything except assignment level 40 true level 3000 True Survivors?
>>574602332switch off your level 37 arbites man
>>574602471I'm playing Skitty tho
>>574602515even worse
>>574602332idk post build
>>574603073I'm running Reginald's alpha primus for tricking the metacucks, except without the flame skull
>>574603202LOLI'd decline your ass so fast it would make your dick spin
>>574603202Maybe he just didn't like the cut of your jibCould also just be a retard that thinks skitarii is bad
>>574603276You'd decline any Skitty anyways
>>574603202Reginald viewers can't climb to 25 so it won't help you
>>574602332It is a point where people start thinking "yeah in tired of losing"It's very easy to get in a group as an ogryn until havoc 30. You will get accepted simply for being ogryn, because there are few ogryns there (they climb out of 21-29 bracket fast).It's reversed at havoc 30 because there are too many ogryns. You can still get in, but it will be easier to find a group as a zealot because nobody wants to play zealot there (unlike low havocs)
>>574596139Most Zealot cosmetics are ruined by fucking wax seals slapped all over themBut when there are no wax seals there is kino
>>574604749are you trying to look like a ninja turtle?
>>574504764So the Moebian 6 was almost Khorne related? Christ, I wish we did get more enemies related to the other chaos god instead of only nurgle.
>>574605036having only nurgle makes it easier for them to reuse design elements from Vermintide it was a cost cutting measure
>>574605036Would've been kino to have a chaos undivided force, but the red one there is still nurgle - you can see the nurgle symbol on the chestgiven fatshark's obsession with including berserker maniacs, it's weird that they went with nurgle. it was reasonable for vermintide because, norscans are all vikings and all of them can be expected to be buff as fuck. less reasonable for guardsmen
>>574604749purity seals fucking kick ass and every outfit needs more of them fuck you>>574604808kek
>>574601106its still in
>>574604749the burning candles don't bother ya?
cureclick bros... are we back?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgagnn10_o
>>574606786Never left.Wish the demo had more people playing though.
I'm doing 35 runs of rolling steel on uprising this evening and then i'm never playing hive scum ever again
>>574607390why did you buy it then
>>574608286To fund the sisters of battle dlc
>>574608286i thought i'd have a lot more fun than i did.
>>574608416
>>574608573Refund, nigga.The 2 hour window is just a suggestion, nigga.
faaaat shaaaaaark>in game tooltip says that it grants toughness replenishment>"oh well that's worthless because toughness replinishment is a completely worthless mechanic">apparently it's actually a massive boost to ALL forms of toughness restorationWHATTHEFUCK>in fact it DOES NOT apply to coherency toughness regenerationamazingbravo
>>574609123you can't get a feel for the class until it's leveled
>>574598365Unironically possible given the prominence of gene alteration in the setting>>574605036Would have probably been a mess to explore but could have had a neat narrative element to it
i hate when im forced to engage with RPers
>>574583203>>574583995I just fucking hated how the special powers from the characters started getting less fantastic feats and more literal magic.Like we went from somehow calling down an airstrike with a naval cannon to a monkeyman teleporting. I played a bunch of guan yu before deciding it was over and even he had some literal magic bullshittery. Also the fucking literally immortal during executions (that then fully heal her) japanese ghost lady. It might have just been some cases of Old Good New Bad but I really didn't like how they went from being just really strong or special soldiers to literally magic.
>>574609902>forcedNigga just don't respond, just tell them to cut it out.
>>574592756Blame GW not fatshark for that one.
>>574609924I feel thatearly FH had a very underrated art style and world building if you think that's bad, then it's good that you never saw Warmonger (a female-only reskin of Warden that literally larps as Appolyon)she could smear this corruption magic shit on her sword and make it so that anyone standing within like 3 or 4 meters of the person who you hit will take constant damageit's literally just nurgle chaos magic
>>574610527I remember shinobi releasing and thinking he was crazy for having smoke bomb dodges and then the chinese vanguard ballet danced across the battlefield.I miss centurion a lot though, that shit was fun.
>>574611426I'll fuck your nigger whore mother with a rusty knife
>>574610838>I miss centurion a lot though, that shit was fun.
>>574611426New to this general, explain this meme.
>>574611426Kill yourself>>574611984Just some retarded browngroid shitting up our general
>>574611904Once they fixed his literally bugged combo he wasn't even that bad compared to any of the assassins and he was the only guy that punched stuff that wasn't lawbringer and even then he didn't even have a real punch, more like a staff whap.
>>574611426>>574611984>Give me one thousan diamantin
What it the Argentina of Darktide?
>>574609902I’m so glad I’ve never once ran into an Erper>>574611984There is no meme he just started saying that like a week ago
>>574613147>raped nigger>only has one thing going for itVeteran, 100%.
>>574613147>0 shots on target>only talent is to shoutVeteran
>>574613452>>574613551S....stop...
>>574611984It's a /tv/ meme from The Sopranos. I am also very confused about why some Anon keeps posting it tho.
>>574614381say something nice about him
>>574614381GO-GO-GADGET EXTENDO-ARMS
combat axe or tactical axe?
I DONT WANT TO GO TO WORKI WANT TO STAY HOME AND PLAY BAD GAME DARKTIDE
>>574615027>>574614381
>>574615127Combat Axe always works. Tactical Axe depends on build.
>>574614381>>574615324kino
>>574615127Combat axe needs an entire build around it to make it workRaChad combat axe shrimply always works.
>>574615230lol just be unemployed like me 4:30 am wtf
>>574615696Tac axe needs an entire build*FUCK
>>574615796You need to work to pay for the pakistani rapists
>>574615796God I wish I was unemployed at times.I have all of the monies in the world but no time to spend any of it;;
>>574616135Sounds like the perfect time to start a funkopop collection
recon lasgun my beloved
>missions with specific secrets/penances>will never get randos to do half of them>missions are randomly available so can't just get friends on at the timepretty cring
>>574617250swedeswhat more is there to say>Mojang is incompetent>Arrowhead is incompetent>Fat Shark is incompetent>Overkill is extremely incompetentit is the Swedish modus operandum
>>574616135It's never too late to become unemployed.
>>574617439Overkill and Arrowhead are swedes too? What the fuck, why is our genre so cursed?
>>574616135It's a comfy life, even if I can't afford most shit.
>>574618320Arrowhead and Fat Shark are the ONLY companies that use the Stingray game engineit is a Swedish-only game engine and right now the only big games using it are VT2, DT, and Helldivers 2Arrowhead has actually poached some talent from Fat Shark since HD2 blew up
what ranged weapon do you guys like on blazing force greatsword psyker?also: shriek of scrier's
>>574619021laspistol greatsword scryers gayze
>>574619021Electro staff and shriek.
i think use slurs in coop games more than other games, i wonder why
>>574619123>>574619076why we thinking these fellas
>>574619470NTA but las pistol is just a great all-arounder and the high mobility is nice to supplement the FGS. Scryer's FGS is a melee berserker and the gun is kind of whatever. The other anon seems to be intending you do more ranged clicking and have FGS be your backup weapon.
>>574619650thinking electo staff on gaze might be kind of nice if pinned down since i refuse to be useful with wall
>>574619470electro staff primary fire is the best gun you have. infinite ammo, good damage, high suppression. Even if you're meleeing most of the time, being able to fully dominate heavy ranged encounters is a nice tool on the belt.Shriek is just convenient, kills stuff, kills stuff through walls. Clears out the ranged trash while you melee if you don't want to stop meleeing or just have a lot of bulwarks in the way.
>>574620083If you're doing gaze FGS I don't think you'll find you need that very often, give it a shot. It's sick
So is there a build that makes the Galvanic not dogshit or...
>>574609143its not the games fault youre illiterate, toughness regen is the worthless stat, toughness replenishment affects any instance that restores toughness
>>574620887A literate person would know replenish and regenerate are synonyms.
>>574616135I would feel this way too but only if could maintain some kind of social life outside work. This place is not a substitute as I came to learn last year.
>>574620862with ACDC and the right setup you can kill a plague ogryn with 9k dps and skip captain phases (if you let them stand up first because the auto aim can't handle the chest and head overlapping AAAA FUCK YOU FATSHARK FUCK YOU JUST GIVE THE HEAD PRIORITY IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE AAAAAAAAAAA)the trouble is the ammo is still shit and you're going to get hit while you're spending too much time on getting value out of ACDC, on account of the double crit and fire rate bonuses being locked at 4 seconds of use, and affording the 10 toughness per second node is nearly out of the question because you're already stretched thin on points
>>574621204and a literate person would understand that the game has specific definitions for specific terms that dont necessarily mean their actual definition
>>574621441Maybe you could show us where in the game it clearly states these definitions?
>>574621607it doesnt and that is the games fault, but youre still responsible for playing the game with preconceived notions of thinking you understand what the game does
>>574621923The only option someone has when playing darktide is to assume what everything does because it doesn't actually explain anything. It requires third party information to have a deeper understanding of how the game works.
>>574622217yes, but its on you if you assume two synonyms are the same instead of them referring to two different things
>>574622573Not assuming people are using synonyms for completely different things does not make someone illiterate. The game descriptions use some synonyms sometimes to refer to the same thing.
>use STEALTH SKILL to BACKSTAB A GORILLION SPECIALISTSliterally who wants to do this in a horde shooter
>>574623906nobody wants to do it but they do it anyway
>>574623365it does when you dont know what words mean
>>574624432Everyone except fatshark knows what the words mean, stop sucking fatshark cock.
Enemy ogryns are so much cooler than us, bros...
>>574623906makes me think of that dark souls picture with the elite knight's bulging eyes
spamming lights is so much more fun than spamming heavies
>>574624575then why did you assume you knew what words mean in a fatshark game when you know that fatshark doesnt know words are
>>574625946Interacting with the game requires you to assume the words mean what they should at first.
Which one we fuckin with gang? Team uppercut or team stab?
>>574624871>be in Heresy or Damnation difficulty>be downed or trapped for once>finally get a chance to look at teammates>i mean really look at them, their playstyle>all 3 of them are spamming light attacks>doesnt matter what kind of enemy vanguards, reapers light attacks ALL DAY EVERYDAYit's pathetic
>mauler overheads me from inside of an ogryn>teammates abandon me after I go down, moving to a less favorable locationI'm about fucking done with this game.
>>574626451the uninstall wizard
>>574626451I prefer the mk1 attack chains
It's pretty frustrating that the mechanicus power sword doesn't get Thrust.
Nerf... ogryn...I need to nerf.... ogryn...Reduce crunch from 15% to 5% just for laughs nyeheheh.....
>>574627037>still doing this 3 major buffs laterEventually you'll have to come up with another joke
>>574627037this but histrionically
>>574624871They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>574627302No one said anything
>>574627391oh sorry
>>574624871>Activate arc maul>Spam lightts>Horde evaporatesalright then
>>574627037Nah, I got a hot new idea. Give ogryn a hidden 1% more on every talent that increases something(so crunch goes from 15% to 16% etc) with each update, but also make ogryns 1% larger(both visually and hotbox) with each update.
>>574624694Kek>>574626728Stop saying this
>>574629295the uninstall wizard
>>574611984We have some local posters that are severely mentally ill but tend to post just above the quality threshold for gods to consider problematic, so now you have to deal with putting>/up in da club/i;boards:vg;op:coopg;op:no;in your filter to remove his brown ass and force him to come up with a new bottom quality shitpost
>>574594685Even in Norse myth Hel is regarded the same way. Obviously it's not the fire and brimstone type of hell like Dante's Inferno, but cold ice and snow, the thing which were more familiar to the norse but just as deadly.But over all the norse regarded Hel the same way christians regard Hell, a horrible fate they'd rather not ever suffer.
>>574595863I got TS and H40 in havoc, and I still think the gamemode is just shit and fundamentally badly designed.We never needed havoc to be added, what we needed was for the devs to nerf shit like VoC, DS, Plasma, bolter, Chorus, flame staff.But instead of doing simple numeric tweaks, these swegroids went ahead and designed a gamemode that in practise centers entirely around these OP things and warrants and incentivices you to use these abilities to have a decent chance of beating the mode due to all the cancer in it.>but i can beat h40 without piss toughness, kraks, chorusGood for you, doesn't change the fact that piss toughness, kraks, chorus etc. still set the base power line for all abilities and weapons in game. And if something cannot exceed that bar, it's not worth using.Like go ahead, take heavy sword and autopistol on FotF zealot and lets see how it feels. It's perfectly playable, but don't pretend that it is better than using a zealot with chorus, relic blade + flamer.
>>574615324Kek
>>574630573Agreed, H40 is a symptom of the devs losing their own vision. VT2 Cata is of course much easier but it is also so much more enjoyable. You arent drowning in a constant tidal wave of shitty enemies that die as they appear on the screen. Instead the enemies take effort to bring down, abilities dont instantly clear the screen and thus the game doesnt have to spawn as much garbage for a challenge. Hell, there's even downtime in the maps for banter and atmosphere which makes the intense sections feel much more interesting. Having nuance and variation is so much better than the constant noice and slop that is H40 spam. It loses all of the intensity when the entire match is the same churn.
Kraks are dogshit compared to smokes
>>574631031Smokes should be compared to the psyker shield rather than kraks
what rewards are there for havoc, evenis it really just 'more of the resources you'll never run out of anyway', plus a couple of penance rewards?
>>574631332Bragging rightsWatch all the sour grapes pour in and bury me in (You)s because they will never be true survivors
>>574631031Gunners are a non-issue for me. I'd rather have more DPS against bosses and armor for the O-Shit moments havoc likes to pull. Aka AI director snorting crack and spam spawning like 3 monstrosities, twins, captain and the 2 mixed hordes and 3 hordes of armor.
>>574631332epeen
>>574631332Intrinsic sense of accomplishment overcoming the game at its hardest
>>574631332Fun. Until they make aurics hard again, it's the only way to have fun now desu.
>>574631332Yes
Forget kraks vs smokes. Which classes would be better if they got access to servoskull as a blitz option, including the 3 modifier nodes?
>>574631332>you'll never run out of anyway'getting enough diamantine to maxx out a weapon takes like 20 games on the regular mission board
>>574631576Literally any of them.
>>574631576None. The other classes don't have capacitence
Havoc is not balanced, but that's fine because the game should not be balanced around havoc.Auric is the gameplay standard. Havoc exists to give the most sweaty autists something retarded to chew on. It's a bonus gamemode. It is deliberately the place for minmaxing, abusing map knowledge, and metafagging. Some people seem to feel an obligation to play the "hardest" difficulty in every video game, but you should not view havoc that way. If you don't enjoy trying to puzzle your way around retarded and unfair scenarios and getting raped 20 times in a row, you are going to have a miserable time. >pic rel: my credentials
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>>574631850>AuricYou mean Heresy
>>574631850Please shut the fuck up
>>574631380If you'd have actually used them, you'd know that smokes break enemy AI. For example the ranged twin just stops attacking and throwing grenades and is totally nullified. Smokes are invaluable precisely for those shit hits the fan situations for reasons like that.
>>574631928is he wrong? if havoc40 were balanced the current playerbase would be begging for a harder gamemode to punish them more. many already are, with duos and solos.
>>574631031true. take the smokepill
>>574632020He is wrong AND he will not stop yapping about it.
>>574632020catering to 1% of the playerbase, many of whom are trans discord drama queens though I'm sure this is a coincidence, is idiotichavoc should be deleted
>>574632125Good thing it's not up to you and nobody has to convince you of anything.
I played the game on the highest difficulty today.That would be - Damnation difficulty, high intensity shock troop gauntlet, base PS5 (calm your anus I'll have a new PC soon), and last night my headphones died so today I bought cheap wireless earbuds, and they have a 0.4ish second audio delay even in "gaming mode". It felt like I was playing a Resident Evil game, every poxburster and charging mutant was a jumpscare.
>>574632020reminds me of helldivers where redditors NEEDED to play on the highest difficulty level, but constantly whined about balance until things were nerfed/buffed to the point that people started complaining that the highest difficulty was too easy, so then they added another difficulty level on top for the sweats to enjoy. But then people NEEDED to play on the highest selectable leve, and lo and behold, the exact same things happened again with the new difficulty level. no idea where its at now I stopped playing helldivers long ago.
>>574632223It is up to me. I am the 99% of people who don't play havoc. When your content sees no players, it gets no development. Wanna put money on a new map coming out and not making its way to havoc for half a year?If your content can't be quickplayed and completed with randoms it's garbage.
>>574632379>yap yap yap yap
>>574631850>stolen screenshot>retarded bait takesKill yourself, attention-seeking tranny freak
>>574632125The whole point is that havoc isn't catered to with balance patches and nor should it be. So I'm not sure what you're complaining about here because havoc doesn't get shit.
>>574632425I accept your concession.
>havoc 40>wipe because the entire party doesn't know how to deal with ritualsHavoc has been out for how long, and people still don't get it?
>>574632379What is this nonsense talking point? Havoc is literally just the normal game but with numbers cranked up and some modifiers added, it requires practically no additional effort from the devs.Being this vitriolic in how you talk about it has got to be a sour grapes thing.
>>574632658If they haven't worked on ritual locations and pox gas vent spots it can't go into havoc rotation.
>>574632301Let's not forget the review bomb when the devs/cm suggested to lower the difficulty as well, lmao.
>>574632607>i-is that a bar at the top of my screen?>and in only FIVE MINUTES its gonna fill???>AAAAAHHHHHHHH I GOTTA ROOOOOSH IM ROOOSHING
>>574632725>sven spends 5 minutes slapping random shit together that's barely functional and keeps bugging out>this is somehow taking work away from other shitI'd call bullshit if they weren't Swedish and in need of a 3 month vacation for every 5 minutes of effort they put in.
>>574632725Also, no man's land and rolling steel still aren't in havoc because they don't fit its format by being too short.
>>574632781Worse. There was an un-aggro'd faraway ritual that we couldn't get to and some nog shot it, causing it to speed up. Then we somehow had zdps when it actually aggro'd (the daemonhost lost like 10% HP during an entire chorus)
>>574632819rolling steel I get but no man's land could totally be a havoc. It has enough rape sections to basically be a full level.
>>574632287>base PS5holy high test>>574631891wtf
>>574632781Ideally it lasts 5 minutesSome maps are STILL FUCKING BUGGED to max charge it the moment you cross the threshold regardless of distance or damage.
>>574632301It's more or less the same. D10 is piss easy if you're not throwing with some intentionally garbage build like all of the people running around with literally zero ability to scratch heavies. Every now and then they'll add some new enemies/a new subfaction that increases the difficulty a bit. It kicks the community's balls for like a weekend, then the good players adapt their tactics to overcome the enemy and the plebbitors start begging for nerfs. For example vox engines were superheavies that lacked any trivial "shoot here once with a recoiless rifle to kill it" weakpoint, which made reddit seethe since they could attack us in appreciable numbers. The good players realized that they could be brute forced down with options like gatling barrage and strafing run, and we started killing them faster than they could spawn. Then reddit cried until at most 3 of them could appear on the map at once. Or the spore bugs. When you kill them they release pheromone clouds that make the ohter bugs very aggressive and faster than than the player (REDDIT TEARS CONDUCTOR WE HAVE PROBLEM!!!!!!). But they don't release the pheromones if they are burning at the time of death. So the players with brains adapted to running laser weapons and flamethrowers to keep the spore bugs under control. I think that there's another vacation cycle before the spore bugs get obliterated with super nerfs, but in the meantime we can't even fight spore bugs most of the time since they're not on a valid target on the galaxy map.
>>574632725>ritual locationsConsidering there are still bugged ones that instantly full aggro and others that don't trigger at all until you can lick them with your tongue I don't think much work goes into them.>pox gas vent spotsMaps don't need to have those. It can just roll a map that does have them when the modifier appears, or vice versa roll vent purge or lights out on the ineligible map instead.
Havoc is just weaves 2.0. It's just as dead of a mode and as much of a failure as the original.
>make havoc have matchmaking>make it elo based, going off how well you perform, how many times you go down, and whether or not the mission was successfulthere you go I fixed havocexcept no I didn't because the entire difficulty is still just>oh damn, that one gunner shot me through a crack in the wall and instantly killed me
>>574632887the sauce on that cartoon is Double King
Havoc doesn't need fixing, it's fine. If you don't like it, just play auric, there's no shame in that, you just can't talk about builds.
They should remove party finder. Playing havoc should be a privilege gated behind having friends.
They should remove deez nuts
>>574633297Yes. They should. If you can't carry 3 sonyponies playing on gamepad with mono sound, then you aren't good enough for havoc 40.
>>574623906>use the Shroud and the thunderhammer/relicblade charged heavy to kill a boss before the Veterans krak grenades go offgonna cum
>>574633373so true trans sister <3
>>574626451Uppercut.
>>574633278You say this but I bet you also think mortis and expeditions shouldn't exist.Havoc is on that list of pointless side modes but you have a mental block on acknowledging it.
>>574633551I think those game modes are perfectly fine, I like them both. Yes, including expeditions.
>>574591660HE'S BACKAT IT AGAIN
>>574633602castrate this man
>>574633637You better be quick on the draw, or it'll be your nuts on the table rather than mine.
>>574632379>If your content can't be quickplayed and completed with randoms it's garbage.It cannot be quickplayed, but it can definitely, demonstrably be completed with randoms.Your social anxiety does not and will not have decision making power.
>>574591660>graetful
>>574633152>make it elo basedok genius explain how you would compute elo in a pve game
>>574633709>individually selected based on criteria>randomyour inability to understand the meaning of words does not and will not matter to me
>>574633635How do you become a captain?
>>574633882win, score go up, lose, score go down
>>574633882dps obviouslyhigh elo is exclusively 4 flame staff psykers getting matched together
>>574633923Do enough witch hunting to be promoted to witch hunter captain.
>>574633902If you mean to define random to mean random builds then you've just even less of a leg to stand on, since we've already had people beat H40 with nothing but ogryn slaps and other nonsense. Not to mention many people do not in fact use mods to spy on people's builds so there's plenty of randomness left in that regard.What I mean is random ass people who you don't know.
>>574633106Is this bait? Havoc is just an extra difficulty. Same game, same maps, just difficulty.Weaves was a completely different game mode like Mortis Trials and on top had its own totally separate weapon progression. Both expeditions and mortis trials are far more dead than Havoc because they try to be a different mode.
Is it that time again?Smokes are uselessRipper gun is ogryns strongest weaponRending is a meme statSkullcrusher only works on full knockdown staggerField improv is a wasted tax node and you're better off skipping itScriers sucks assArbiter is worthlessZealot is dog shitVet deserves even more nerfsshredder grenades, brittle flames > warp nexus, suppression is a meme, when are dlc classes getting cosmetics?
>>574634164It's PRE-havoc old bait. Some retard got it into his head that it's weaves and autistically held onto the notion despite how verifiably wrong and retarded it is.
>>574634238To be fair, rending is kind of useless now that brittleness is king.
>play with two buddies who are also Skitarii>all three running Voltaic and Arc Rifles >everything gets deleted almost instantaneouslylol, lmao. I am going to miss the spare mag bug. Just an endless blue beam erasing all enemies the director spawns as quickly as they appear.
>>574633997That'd be hilarious.
I bought Arbites but is it really a bad class :(
>>574634254Havoc basically is weaves.The current lead director of Darktide is the guy who came up with Weaves. You can tell the entire gamemode is his idea. Same goes for snoretis trials and expeditions.
>>574633882wins and losses, downs/deaths, netted or dogged, damage received, special and elite kills and assists
>>574610838>centurioni can hear the Incrediblis
>>574634458no its pretty good actually
>>574634750>Infirmus!>Etiam!
>>574634574>the same guy made it so it is clearly identicalTake your meds you insufferable schizo
>>574634458Arbiter is destined to be dogshit in any game it's featured inI got baited into buying the Lex imperialis dlc for rogue trader and man that was a steaming pile of shit.
>>574634574I like Mortis trials though, some very funny shit can happen to your build
>>574634458It's completely fine and walks through Auric but all your Havoc applications will be rejected.
>>574634238>Smokes are uselessKraks are better.>Ripper gun is ogryns strongest weaponIt is. It is the best specialist killer and does good boss damage too. And has a good amount of ammo, which is a plus in havoc.>Rending is a meme statIt is. You either need a lot of it or a weapon that is bad against carapace. But at that point why are you trying to use a bad weapon against carapace?>Skullcrusher only works on full knockdown staggerTrue. Arby Concussive doesn't work.>Field improv is a wasted tax node and you're better off skipping itIt is good, but bleed is good. Especially with the combat knife.Also good with heavy sword when using death blow, it speeds up horde clear a lot since you can cleave a lot of enemies at once>Scriers sucks assIt does. Shriek and shield are better>Arbiter is worthlessHe is, he brings nothing worth while to any team in havoc. Anything he does, another class does as well but better.>Zealot is dog shitHe is, he's a support heal slut now, it's the worst type of class in games>Vet deserves even more nerfsHe does, krak spam is cancerous and makes all bosses and armor a joke>shredder grenades, brittle flames > warp nexusShredde nades are the best, use the bolt pistol and grenade talent to have ogryn nuke radius that applies bleed>suppression is a memeIt is, a worthless mechanic>when are dlc classes getting cosmetics?Fucking never ever.
>>574634458It's just simultaneously the easiest and strongest class in the regular gamemodes, /coopg/ copelords, bait-tards and havoc posers are just too brain damaged to acknowledge it because it's not the highest DPS class and kinda low value in havoc, so it automatically parses as bad in the mind of an 80 IQ troglodyte
The only difference between weaves and havoc is weaves was gated behind DLC. They're both "play on reused maps with special modifiers active"
Vet is underpoweredI wish at least one of the free classes was good but I guess they want you to pay to play Havocs
>>574635058I love youPlease marry me so I can fulfill my savior complex
>>574635058>responding to the obvious retard-opinion-bait-post with genuine confirmation that you are completely retardedImpressive.
Very new to co-op genre. Can anyone recommend some good 4 player co-op games with decent amount of content? Finished raft and then tried far far west but it got stale really really fast. On the lookout for a new game now. Any recommendations appreciated, anything you guys find fun with friends. Any genre
>>574634238Ripper gun IS the ogryn's best weapon and I will die on that hill(because I brought a ripper gun).
>>574635161But only one of the DLC classes is good according to the HavocGAWDS
>>574635161>t. havoc clearance 22
>>574635231Darktide
Thoughts on Critical Power Overload?
>>574635205It's probably the faggot himself replying to his own post. You constantly see the same sentences repeated word for word as bait
>retard allies spread out and get themselves disabled>one leaves>bot takes his place, walks over to where I am, and pushes a poxburster into me, killing meNigshark really doesn't want me to play 40click tonight...
>>574635231Lucky for you, I've got three (3) games I can heartily recommend.
were there any good guns for skitarii?was skitarii even worth the wait or the money?did it have ammo sustain?
>>574635690YesYesYes
>>574635268Both cum and skitty witty are broken
>>574635690Phosphor pistol and Arc rifle are both incredibly good guns, it also generates 1% ammo every 15 seconds on a node
>>574635231What kinda gaming and vibes are you looking for?
>>574635231Don't listen to anyone who says Darktide.
>>574635793Skitty is DOGSHIT according to this general althoughbeitdoe
>>574635690Arc rifle is good if you want to pad your damage numbers by shooting hordes all day. Phosphor pistol is a super revolver. Skitarii is the comfiest class for dragging retards through the match since it comes with one complimentary friend (Bosco). It has infinite ammo sustain so long as that ammo is the servo skull shooting the specials for you.
>>574635793Skitty is kind of underwhelming in havoc but has a couple strengths. Would still rather take the original 4 though.It also suffers from being a new class, thus not having an established meta, and by extension being extremely bad on average because shitters haven't yet been spoonfed a build they can excel at.>>574635889This general also doesn't play havoc at a relevant level. The opinions of 20s trenchers are completely invalid because they're there for a reason.
>>574635231Risk of Rain 2PEAKDeep Rock GalacticGrounded 1-2ValheimAbiotic FactorDarktide
>>574635231>with friendsDepends on how gamer or normie your friends are.Darktide is a gamer's game. Normies will bounce off it.Deep Rock Galactic is a redditor's game. Normies will love it. Pretty good game ofc.Slay the Spire 2 is a casual's game with surprising depth and very very good, but capital G hard r Gamers might bounce off it because they have a conniption whenever a boogeyman is listed in the credits.
>>574634574>Havoc basically is weavesHavoc is an extra difficulty option. Its still just the base game, you play it in the normal maps. How the fuck are you comparing it to weaves? Which had their own custom maps, own specific progression and was overall completely detached from the core game?
>>574636305>HowHe's mentally ill and doesn't play the game. Are you new here?
>leveling some weapon masteries in damnation>the assassination mission on the train map>lights out>the pubbies, who brought wound curios, experience one death and three downs by the first drop down>a second pubbie dies while I'm rescuing the first one that died.AHHHHHHHHHHH
i agree with havok being weaves
>>574636387>havok'avoque*
>>574636413sounds french to me buddy, we don't talk like that around these parts
>>574636305>Which had their own custom mapsThey were the original maps, but in reverse. You've got a point that havok is even less effort than weaves. It's weaves-lite.
>>574635690All of the Skitarii guns range from good to best in the game. The Galvanic being the weakest due to its extremely bad ammo economy. I demand Fatshark explain themselves, but they won't. Even still, it's a strong gun just failed by the round count. Worth the money. It's the most diverse class at the moment, and there will only potentially be more build diversity added if Fatshark overcompensates and makes the two useless Blitzes into very good Blitzes. Yes, two of the Blitzes are useless but it makes up for this by having the best blitz in the game by a country mile. It does, but it's sort of just there. 1% every 15 seconds. Not survivalist tier, but still worth taking since it will mathematically refill your ammo back to full at least once per game (probably). It is startlingly good at melee. It's very good at range. Its worst ability is the Aimbot, and that's mostly because the other two are just that much stronger and the Aimbot having certain suboptimal quirks to it.Finally, the blitz I mentioned before is the Servo-skull. It can do anything and everything. Shits out damage, it can do puzzles, it can res, get dogs off you, etc. It might even get stronger if they buff the weakest node (the flamer skull). It's borderline laughable how strong Fatshark made this stupid thing. The most they can do at this point is make the node that turns the base damage skull into a killing machine worse by slowing down how often you can use it. Nothing about the class is a one trick pony, but also it's not so strong that it's begging for nerfs like the Arbie or Scum were in different ways.
>>574636560The Noosy is already balanced by the fact that sometimes it just doesn't shoot SERIOUSLY WHY THE FUCK IS IT NOT SHOOTING I DOUBLE TAGGED THE SPECIALIST RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AAAAAAAAA
>>574636915You are out of capicitance. It's okay, Anon. Sometimes we milk ourselves dry.
>>574636560This is mostly correct although I'd argue the skull is only as strong as your build supports, and you are good as a player at using it. You can give the noosy to a shitter and he won't do anything with it either. It's kind of like a very good vet that instantly shoots at things you tag. If you don't tag, or your target prioritization sucks, it won't do much good. If you overuse it with an ability-using build, you won't do much either. Most retards forget they have the skull. Hell most retards forget they picked up a stimm.I'd be surprised if they nerf Noospheric Command any more than the necessary bugfix of requiring 25% capacitance instead of just draining it.>>574636915>sometimes it just doesn't shootThe skull needs to rotate before it can shoot, which takes like half a second and might be further confounded by you turning, but I'm not 100% sure on that last bit.
After returning to the game for skitarii, I have been leveling up the force greatsword on psyker. Later this week I'll try the relic blade for zealot. They should give every class fun 2H great weapons like this. Fuck 1H toothpicks and 1H maul #98342768
>>574636962>requiring 25%That is functionally what I meant by slowing down how frequently you can use it. If they require a flat 25% rather than just have it fire for whatever percentage of 25% you have, then its total damage output over the course of a game automatically takes a hit. It's not the end of the world, but it is a nerf. I would like them to buff the Purg skull, just because it would be funny.
>>574637208The actual nerf is being made to spend 2-3 points on capacitance nodes, but in practice it won't really take away much power from a proper noosy build because they can achieve parity relatively easily. I already have 2 points I don't know how to spend so I'm fully prepared for the fix.All the retard newfag shitposting about how broken it is because you can spam it on 0% is uninformed and incorrect, because spamming it does nothing, and any capacitance generating build can easily make 25% in those 2 seconds between tags lol. My skull alone will continue to singlehandedly kill more specialists than the average vetshitter and outdamage him too, even after forcing me to spend some points on capacitance generation.
>>574636950>>574636915It's line of sight. It can still shoot at 0 capacitence
>open mic sonygroid>uses the "I need ammo" callout entirely unironically>absolutely dead fucking weightname a more iconic triumvirate
>>574637464Skitarii is unironically extremely comfy because of that. I can sit back and know that they won't touch the class because there aren't any builds that cause people to shriek about the damage (bleed dog Arbie), Havoc players are reticent to take Skitarii since they aren't comfy with their regular group dynamics being upset, and the class doesn't truly show its colors until it gets to difficulties that Fatshark isn't balancing around. Your point about Noosy out damaging Veterans is exactly what I am writing about. That only happens once there's enough things to target with Noosy. And even if someone is running the scoreboard, they are likely running the VT2 one these days where the Servo Skull damage doesn't show up in the final calculation so it's invisible damage. Even funnier is that Noosy kills don't appear in the feed much of the time, so there's less information still for vanilla players to focus on and get angry over. Love this silly guy. Love that this class will probably just get buffs and bug fixes before Fatshark throws it into the ice locker for the next 12 months.
>>574635231Darktide > Deep Rock Galactic > Vermintide 2 > The rest
>>574637560>be me>PBB ogryn>run out of ammo>see anon, the """ranged zealot""" ziggering around hoovering up every piece of ammo, and also holding an ammo crate>I Need Ammo!>I Need Ammo!>he continues to soak up even large pickups to refund 2 revolver bullets>I Need Ammo!>doesn't put down the ammo crate>I Need Ammo!>goes down>decide against reviving him>pick up the ammo crate>deploy it>I now have ammo
>>574638665Where was your designated ammo box (the Veteran)?
>>574638665>>be me>>PBB ogrynyou were in the wrong
>>574639207
>>574638665PBB ogryn?Sorry for the dumb question, new to the general and just learning all the ins and outs.
>>574639456point blank barrageyou press F and basically wipe the entire screen of enemies
>>574639509Oh, I was doing that for the penance last week. Really wasn't a fan of it. Seems like the aggro ogryn is more useful and the rush forward ogryn is more fun.
>>574635231Darktide Is the Absolute peak of the genre but It might be too sweaty to play with FriendsHelldivers and Deep rock galactic are a good compromise between decent gameplay and casual fun with FriendsSpace marine 2 offers a pretty good coop campaign to play with decent gameplay and cool cutscenes/set pieces
>>574639584Taunt is generally regarded as the strongest ability.
>>574638665>ammo blueballingYou deserved it
Been running Flensing and Redline for a while and am interested in trying Power Overload next, and am interested in your thoughts and input. Trying to go for a generalist tankyish ranged-melee hybrid with support for teammates. Main thoughts currently are that are the toughness replenishment and electrify on overload worth it, should I sacrifice some tankiness for damage, and is the toughness aura better than the rending and cleave? Bouncing between transphobic and arc Maul. All other thoughts are welcome also!
>"meta" havoc build >look inside>aoe slop what a great game mode, very healthy for the game.
>>574640917I think toughness aura is the best aura, but that's just my opinion.
Castigator Stance?More like Cacastigator Stance!
>>574641216pretty good.
>>574638665>Pbb ogrynStopped reading there. If you're trolling your team you've got no right to complain about others.Unless you were running rumbler but I seriously doubt it. Twin stubber looooggers get the rope.
>>574641424I'm trans btw just in case you were wondering why i hate PBB.
PBB was never good and they should have never given it to ogryn.It should'be just been the outcast engineer gun instead.
PBB is genuinely overpowered in auric HISTG and maelstrom. Anyone who thinks otherwise haven't played it very much. It was already quite good before, but the combination of getting half the ammo back + cooldown reduction is wild.
>>574641759Pretty certain the PBB hating autists don't and can't even play ogryn because it's getting kind of hilarious by now just how easily proven wrong they are.Yeah, wow, you had a tardgryn waste all the ammo and do nothing, good job. My arbitrator and veteran """teammates""" do that all the time, they don't need PBB to do it.
>>574641639Oh right i forgot to mention that i'm trans and i have gone through bottom surgery already.
>>574640917>should I sacrifice some tankiness for damageI think you should never do thatAlso I think that toghness recovery on overload is not worth a point
>>574642171Noone does that like an arc rifle skitarii
>>574642863No those just kinda die before they get to spend most of their ammo, because most skit players are fucking retarded and take 0 health curios when they can't even play the melee, or avoid poxbursters.
>>574642736Thanks! Any thoughts on what to pick instead of toughness overload? Overload charges on ability use, or does the electrify on overload overlap too much with Voltaic Emitter in that situation?
>>574642978>Overload charges on ability useI don't think it's worth a talent eitherAll damage nodes in the right side of the tree are good, especially if you have noosy to sustain them.Strength node near servoskull blitz is also good.And take toughness aura.
>>574552176I'd get banned if I told you
>>574643190Thanks. Finally, what about the electrify on overload? Worth a point, or is it better spent elsewhere?
>>574643504I think 3 points in overload is perfect
>just remembered the ogrynomicon exists>there are still newfags to this day that learn the game wrong because of it bottom kek
>I HAVE THE POWER OF THE OMNISSIAH AND THE SERVO SKULL ON MY SIDEThe only reason it wasn't higher was because one guy quit out and was replaced by an NPC for the rest of the mission, and I got tired of picking up a veteran near the end so I let another veteran pick him up.
>>574634618do you know what elo even is or how it works and why it works you utter mouthbreather
>>574644098Hank has shifted to making videos and shorts now that he gets boosted from the Discord and Reddit.
>>574634458the voice lines make me chuckle
>>574633989that's just winrate. not elo. how do you produce and update a weighted ranking estimator when you can't do head to head comparisons?
>>574638665>maelstrom no ammo pickups modifier>teammates keep spamming "I NEED AMMO"
>>574644556also, using winrate for matchmaking in a pve game is the most retarded thing you could possibly do, it's an unstable positive feedback loop. lose a game or two and all you'll get are shitters.
>>574639456>PBB ogryn?Mr. Pibb ogryn.It's the knock-off of Dr. Pepper ogryn.
>>574644563>hit QP>actually read modifier>remind teammates "There is no ammo drops. Fire sparingly.">don't run out of ammo cause skull+ammo recovery talent goes a long way>rumbler ogryn runs out of ammo in 3 minutes>spends rest of mission spamming "I need ammo"Couldn't figure out if he genuinely thought there were ammo drops and the rest of us just snatched every single one before he could see them or if he was just remarking that he was out of ammo.
>>574644098i'm not reading all that bullshit, spark notes on some of the things he gets wrong? I noticed he said dodging knocks down small enemies around you, is that true?
>>574644959>I noticed he said dodging knocks down small enemies around you, is that true?You don't play ogryn, do you? Because there's no way you wouldn't have noticed that if you did.
>>574642278Yes, we can tell since you insist on bringing it up.
>>574644949>QP>maelstromMutually exclusive, anon, you don't play the game. You have to explicitly select maelstrom to join maelstrom. Not noticing the ammo modifier is a sign of being a fucking retard.
>>574645530Alright, I just want to make sure that everyone knows that I, the PBB hater, am trans.
>>574645576>You have to explicitly select maelstrom to join maelstromWait, really? I must be misremembering then, but I can't imagine I'd opt in for that.
>>574645957We know.
>>574645390So you're not going to believe this but this whole time i thought the ZEALOT talent The Master's Retribution was an ogryn talent and whenever a shitter enemy would fall on it's ass mid combat it was just that talent proccing. I have a level 400+ ogryn, what is wrong with me.
>>574646227You're the ideal Ogryn player
>>574646227Nothing, ogryn was made for you
>>574644704but you'll also be at a lower difficulty, where they can win
How important is this node? When do you even notice this helping you?
>party finder into 20 havoc with sniper gauntlet >Smigger joins in>Decide to say nothing of it, leave it to the host to organize his group >Start the run>Smigger starts smigging>No matter the circumstance he is smigging>Suddenly get a dual boss spawn + horde + gauntlet>Smigger harder than ever >We start going down one by one as the group is spread out and becomes increasingly incoherent >With each fallen teammate the Smigger smigs ever harder>Goes down smigging as the last man standingHonestly in awe of this lad.
>>574646767I make too many light attacks to justify spending the point in it.
>>574646809>going down in H20Mate you cant criticize the smigger when you cant clutch a simple dual boss
>>574635231If you don’t mind a horror twist, there’s also Outlast Trials which is especially fun with friends, just be warned a lot of the content is pretty extreme so maybe avoid if any of your friends are squeamish.>>574635690I’ll echo what seems to be the consensus and say yes to all. I had other expectations for it but nothing that was ever going to be a guarantee sadly, what’s there is still solid though.
>>574647219Yes I can and I will
>>574646809Smite is a cancer ability and it should be removed from the game.
>>574647482what would you replace it with
>>574647539Apocalypse from Diablo 1.
>>574646767All the time if you use heavy attacks for horde clearNever otherwise
>>574646809He did his best and you all still died
>>5746475391 big lightning bolt that's an ogryn nuke or an implosion that pulls enemies closer to one another.
What does Plasma vet do? I've just gotten into Havocs and my first group had a las vet who kept sniping all the gunners so I figured that's what vets are good at, but then I partied up with a bunch of plas vets who don't seem to shoot gunners or specialists, or really shoot at all in general.
>>574646809So if the smiglord was so bad how come he was the last man standing after you guys split up like idiots?
>>574648643You got everything right
>>574648643Plasma does more or less the same, but plasma/duelling sword is also the hallmark of the biggest mouthbreather you will ever see in your life. If it's paired with weapons specialist then expect a player who legitimately wouldn't survive in heresy. I never accept these players with this combo because they're generally clueless on how to actually play the game.
>>574648939Where did I say he was bad?
>>574646809ok but what was he supposed to do?
whenever you see this character border you just know its going to be a shitshow
>>574651263>what is a psyker supposed to do2 million damage, for starters.
>>574639456Half the time I don't have a fucking clue what people here are saying because they use acronyms because they're saving pixel ink or something in their posts
>>574651451That's impossible in havoc 20 lol, especially on psyker. Even ogryn wouldn't break 1m in havoc 20.
>>574651451Smite does 2 million damage though?
>>574651263Carry me through Havocs for the titles, next retarded question.
>>574651568>That's impossible in havoc 20You would know being stuck there.
>>574651728It's impossible to be stuck there, it's fucking heresy difficulty
>>574651787Oh yeah? Prove it.
>>574651610if you held left click into a 50 stack pox horde for 24 hours
I like the little Darktide dialogue shorts on YouTube
>>574646227I'd attach a kneeling Ogryn to this post if I had one.
Peeji 10~...
Bake a fucking thread before it dies
>>574653864No~
>>574654037>>574654037>>574654037>>574654037MOOOOOO ve
