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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9497 - SALLY VVILL NEVER DIE edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Open]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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I want to stuff this american
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>>575091206
I’m hard
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Should I buy the Shadow Files
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>>575089184
>If you were in charge of a comic reboot of the entire Sonic story, how would you keep as much influence of the existing Sonic story and world building as possible? Would you do Two World that merge at some point, or just have humans and Blobians living side-by-side the entire time?
We stay consistent with the status quo since SA1: mostly humans, with blobians being usually major characters who nonetheless aren't remarked upon as outlandish when, say, Amy goes shopping.

>How would you handle the many time travels in CD + 06 + Generations?
CD and Generations work as-is. 06, in service to an overall rewrite that largely keeps the same beats (Elise & Sonic, Mephiles tormenting Shadow, Silver trying to be the Terminator, etc), just greasing the wheels more logically messy parts & allowing Sonic to interact more with the plot's moving parts, like giving Elise and Silver a better link and Sonic actually meeting Mephiles at least once.

>How would you make 06 fit together with Rush?
Blaze's dragged into Silver's future by some means pre-Rush. Stays to try helping this hellscape. When sacrificing herself, goes back to her dimension, barred from Silver's future lest Iblis break free of her. Keeps the Tanabata stuff, dovetails into Blaze's "putting the world on her shoulders" stuff. The cosmic retcon erases "future Iblis" so that's not a problem, and it's still Blaze's "first time" later.

>Would you keep Forces' futuristic cities at the same time as 21st century Central City?
Why not? Anachronisms make for varied setpieces for action scenes. Futuristic shit happens in Sonic Riders and nobody bats an eye, and we're back to ordinary cities. We use what serves the story best at a time, as the games do.

>What does G.U.N. do during the Gaia incident? Do they replace the Resistance in Forces?
Resistance & GUN aren't mutually exclusive. Unleashed, the fragmenting also fucked up communications so they're in disarray but trying to help local pockets as they can.
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I honestly wish Forces had no plot consequences. None of them were good
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this sort of shit ops belong in /co/
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What's the plot of ShadowGens even? isn't doom dead? why is he in the arc? how is he in white space? why is he a planet? why radical highway? what does any of this have to do with letting his species survive by chaos controlling the meteor from space to earth? what's first Shadow05 or Gens?
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>>575091963
Because brand > logical plot
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>>575091963
>why radical highway?
They're turning it into Shadow's version of Green Hill Zone
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https://www.yourworldoftext.com/SonicSTHGStory
Tails CYOA continues at Rentry: rentry.org/tailsero
Options: Zooey got captured by Johnny! Tails can 1) challenge him to a race 2) try to negotiating with him, or 3) give in.
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>>575091963
>how is he in white space
Generations has an excuse plot. The physical explanation for everything is just time travel. There isn't some internal logistic for it
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>>575091537
>Blaze's dragged into Silver's future by some means pre-Rush.
But I thought she was already from Silver's future, and sent them both to separate dimensions following 06
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>>575092284
Why would an Indian be born in a futuristic environment?
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>>575092284
Blaze only banished herself to prevent Silver from doing it, if I recall the final cutscene of Silver's story correctly. As for where she originated, rest of her appearances run with coming from the Sol Dimension and Maekawa was overruled over trying to make 06 her starting point per his twitter account, so we do this for parity's sake.
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>>575091668
>we're trying to maintain a stronger continuity and worldbuild a little, what games should we build that off of?
>Let's use 06, Forces and Lost World as a basis, they are the best sonic games after all!
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>>575092186
who dafuq is disguy lel
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>Zavok keeps coming back
>Forces OCs keep coming back
>Humans disappear with increasingly stupid excuses
>We keep focusing on Tails's stupid chaos zero moment
>Knuckles being a military general comes up in the next game
>Sonic still unstoppable god king that everyone is useless without
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>>575091206
Me too brother me too
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>>575092578
>Maekawa was overruled over trying to make 06 her starting point per his twitter account, so we do this for parity's sake.
So everytime I've asked a silverfag about the issue of Blaze's 06 appearance, the answer I've always gotten was that she's officially from Silver's future and ended up in the sol dimension after. I thought this was stupid but accepted it. Now I am being told it's not canon and we're back to not knowing what the fuck she's doing in 06? I don't even know why people bother trying to make sense of that game, it took so many liberties with the existing story and it's own plot that you could swap out the whole case with OCs and it would barely make a difference; it might even help. I genuinely think most of the people batting for that game are shipfags, or at least I hope they are.
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>>575092490
What's with Blaze being associated with Indian?? Don't you know that Indians poop on the streets?
>>575092186
That's a man..
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>>575093293
Douge
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>>575093389
Does anyone have a list of official statements regarding Blaze's existence in 06?
I always assumed they were attempting to retcon Rush entirely
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>>575093293
Cute N Canon!
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Have a lovely morning and weekend.
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>search blaze on tiktok
>half of it is disguised porn
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>>575093682
Silver Sonic and Shadow all look wrong happily enjoying sex
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>>575093665
Thanks Emi!
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>>575093389
>>575093561
Sega's official explanation for 06 has always been "it happened but didn't and everyone has amnesia I guess". Tell Takashi "Two Worlds" Iizuka you're sorry.
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>>575093793
Sonic and Silver would enjoy sex
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>>575093389
>>575093561
I do have the source of the Maekawa thing I mentioned: "I tried to make a connection between Rush and 06 but it's not official"
https://nitter.poast.org/mizuhano/status/1302835118441029632
https://twitter.com/mizuhano/status/1302835118441029632

>I always assumed they were attempting to retcon Rush entirely
I believe only Eggman Nega was outright retconned, and only because Iizuka reportedly felt he needed to include a shocking twist when writing Rivals
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>>575093293
CnC!
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>SALLY GUYS
>OMG SALLY
>SALLY IS SO COOL
>SALLY IS SO SPECIAL
>SALLYSALLYSALLYSALLY
>SALLYYYY SAAALLLYYYY
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>>575094112
So
>rivals games are canon
>which means 06 is canon
>but rush is still canon
Seems like a bit of an oversight from the sonic experts over at the lore team to leave blaze in chronological limbo like that. I hope master flynn can make sense of it for me.
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>>575094441
Thank God for not making me a sonamytard
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>>575091537
>rivals games are canon
>which means 06 is canon
Last I checked, Rivals Silver is technically different, since that game was meant to be his proper "reintroduction".
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>>575094705
Meant for >>575094515
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>>575094441
This is a straight thread, not gay like yuo
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>>575094620
Sonurge just feels right and makes sense.
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>>575093872
Cute.
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>sonamy the supposedly canon shipping
>sucks ass
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Hey guys I just got off a call with Ohshima, Naka, Kalinske, Iizuka, Maekawa, Hoshino, Flynn, Penders, Stanley and Gabe Newell (massive blazefag). They all unanimously agreed that Rush Blaze was the only time the character really showed up, and every appearance after that has been infinite in disguise. Glad we cleared that up.
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>>575094156
Rouge doesn't know what sex is
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Sonamybesties say Sonamy is the ship that makes sense for windnic but Sonurge is better
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I wish we got even more off brand AUs. Even Archie is too accurate for me. I want something more off brand than fleetway
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>>575094112
I get the feeling that Maekawa was trying to make sense out of whatever Nakamura was trying to do.
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Bestie=cuck
That's the new dog whistle
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Today I showed the world that i'm not retarded. I'm just incredibly lazy, hyperactive and esl.

Also 'iona.
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>>575097515
>really good with kids and pets
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KEK
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>>575093665
Thanks, you too.
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>>575097515
Where did you find evan stanley's tiktok account?
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>>575097515
If you just reject every headcanon about Sonic and Shadow they are easy to understand and the correct amount of complex
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Okay but seriously, they should vault Blaze. Shitty Mary Sue OC.
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>american hours
>thread becomes shitsally worship
>comic worship
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>>575092578
>>575092284
>>575093389
>>575093561
>>575092578
i think there is a connection between rush and 06 but it wasn't reincarnation theory, it was probably sol emeralds sending her there, whether its because solaris is a threat(its superdimensional) or because she missed sonic or baka and went to silver instead (they also say sol emeralds can move in time and space too in blazes bio arund 00s so its possible when trying to find sonic it sends her to ''future sonic'') you can bullshit that moving time with sol emeralds causes amnesia too if you want to explain why she kinda goes along with mephiles.
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>>575098415(me)

don't think they attempted to retcon rush considering rush adventure comes right after in 2007 where all the negative receptions wouldn't ve sinked in yet. nega is retconned but all the rest is intact
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>>575098415
I think the presentation of the game is just bad. If you play 06 you are basically left to assume she's from the future with Silver. Any background explanation for why she is there feels load bearing.
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cnc
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>>575095207
what about rush adventure
>>575097105
nakamura didnt explain why silver time traveled in forces
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>>575098782
no one said it was good but if you were an obsessive blazefag you could've noticed the side media + rush connections in 06 more imo. blazefags rarely attempt analysis besides sonic blaze parallels.
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>>575098801
Better than Sonamy
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>>575099019
Self insert slop
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>>575097740
Why is sonic standing in front of Surge here?
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>>575098782
also nakamura didnt explain how silver was in forces either i think its kinda his problem.
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>>575098782
The presentation is terrible
>Blaze vaguely reacts to the mention of Sonic so she either hasn't met him yet or this is a different version of Blaze
>Maybe this is the same Blaze and something happened to her memory between games
>Nothing. This is not resolved. 06 Blaze has no interaction with Sonic
>The website says she is from another dimension, this is even messier than if she was just retconned because it means most of her character isn't in the fucking game
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>>575098415
Anyone remember that BumbleKast (for what it's worth) where Ian Flynn touched on it?
>[paraphrase] "I actually had it explained to me. Suffice it to say, it was...annoyingly simple. The gist is that, yes, '06 Blaze is the same Blaze from Rush; a being from an alternate dimension. As for the nitty-gritty of how that works... I really am not at liberty to say, because that is a story to be told elsewhere, should Sega get around to it."
Gee, thanks, Ian Flynn, for being tight-lipped for once in your life. Looking back, honestly sounds like Sega might've considered "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG X BLAZE THE CAT" at some point, ala Sonic X Shadow Generations.
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>>575095554
All "Plan B" girls are better for windnic over Amy Rose.

Even random shit like Tangle.

Sonamy works with a slightly tweaked version of Sonic that is used for spin-offs, not the windnic one.
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>>575099519
that slightly tweaked spinoff sonic likes sally tho
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What does this means
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>>575099619
>inb4 chuds cry abuot maria being black
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>>575099621
That's not "slightly" tweaked.
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>>575099625
it means everything is canon and connected
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>>575099739
Sonic X I guess
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>>575098818
Nakamura is also the director of 2006 and the one who came up with the story.
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>>575099515
>>575099285
its annoying but dreams of an absolution has ''but you still control the past'' line

likely they just didnt have time or didnt see the point to add stuff besides her more poetic role.
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>>575099625
Movie franchise, Media franchise
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>>575099625
That means Sonic is not the face of SEGA.
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>>575099519
>>575099621
Sally literally hates wind shit unless she's written by Ian Flynn
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>>575098370
Sonurge wonned btw.
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>>575099519
nah windnic doesnt like surge, blaze, or whoever else you say either. amy exists to say no one can actually date sonic.
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>>575098370
Yeah lets discuss the new AAA Sonic game announcement instead
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>>575099515
>Ian the vagueposter
OOC for him!
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>>575100015
That must explain why the Persona anniversary took more priority this year than Sonic's anniversary
As long as the current SOJ ceo and staff is in charge, Sonic will just be a side thing rather than the main thing
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>>575099519
Sally specifically doesn't work with windnic, that was her whole issue. Even Ian inevitably said she just gave up on him
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>>575099619
>>575099719
we wuz robotniks n shiet
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Windnic works with Surge
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>>575100475
I have never seen a windfag be able to argue against this ship without claiming IDW is ooc
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>>575100435
You only have one joke.
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date your waifu yourself
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>>575100257
Jewel isn't a lesbian, she loves human dick (mine).
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>>575100536
Amy deserves happiness.
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Surge should discover that her real name was Adventure
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>>575100259
And he is right.
Persona makes more money than Sonic, so obvious it takes priority. And it is an even worse situation when SoA keeps sabotaging Sonic. I could complain about a lot of SEGA decisions, but this is not one of them.
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>>575100257
I mean he could've just said "Hashtag KnowingSmile!" but it seems he only does that when it's either something he or his lore-associates are working on, or he's bullshitting n easy duck from a hard question. So this is def. something on the Japanese side, and it DOES align with the Sonic World Story timeline at least...
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>>575100649
yesssssss
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Sonic should be just as financially capable as Spider Man as a franchise
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>>575100259
Utsumi seems to be the only japanese higher up that genuinely likes Sonic at least so i wouldn't worry that much yet
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Sonic and Amy have definitely had unprotected sex
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>>575101574
Sonic would never touch Amy
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>>575101574
Sonic is gay
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Do you think the series would have been better and improved if Amy Rose were a girl-crazed lesbian?
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>>575094009
i wonder how would blaze even get silver to fuck her considering he wouldnt know what sex is
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>>575097740
I think the anons that post these images are probably bad people
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>>575101912
Ian...
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Why do you faggots care so much about a blue rat sticking his penis into someone?
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>>575102962
>You have alerted the Miles!!,
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>>575103137
its not about Sonic getting pussy, its about Amy getting dick
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>>575103137
It's not about Sonic getting pussy, it's about Amy specifically NOT getting (Sonic's) dick.
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>>575103137
Because. Sonic NEEDS to have unprotected sex with Amy.
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It's not about Sonic getting pussy, it's about Amy getting MY dick.
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silver x blaze gens when
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Because kids games should be about sex
That's why Sonic should be "GOTTA FUCK FAST"
That's why Knuckles should be shouting "SLAP DAT HO LIKE A DOMINO"
Sonic girls twerking 24/7 and spank minigames
Shadow riding a motorcycle and screaming "DIE NIGGA" as he mows down a crowd to the strip club
Sonic girls all having their personalities destroyed and all they can think about is penis or fighting each other for dick
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Sonic's best character moment in the last two decades is still him sacrificing his life in an attempt to save Pikachu
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>Amy deserve happiness
Nope! Cuckmy deserves cuck! cuckmy ic and canon!
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SonicSez: Unprotected sex is ACES, pulling out works every time!
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If you think I shouldn't fuck the hedgehog, you hate Sonic.

Sonic Sexo is IC.
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Sonic will die a virgin and so will Amy.
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>>575105264
Amy has human suitors lined up for her
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>>575105264
>and so will Amy
Not if I have anything to say about it.
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>>575105276
All thanks to our useless drawfags
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amy paizuri
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Amy is for ugly bastards just like all hentai sluts
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I wanna see Rotor written off nippon writers, Maekawa and Akinori, however I feel like off sushiland. I wanna see how would they make him.
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>>575099285
>>Blaze vaguely reacts to the mention of Sonic so she either hasn't met him yet or this is a different version of Blaze
She isnt reacting to Sonic. She is reacting to Mephiles/Silver saying the words "blue hedgehog".
Blaze doesn't see the vision Silver sees.
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>>575099625
It means they don't see the different Sonic's as competing over the face of the brand.
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Amy deserves a strong loyal husband
Shadow deserves a loving wife
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>>575106381
They would just make him insecure about how useless he is compared to Tails
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>>575106474
she knows only one blue hedgehog, it's still a bit of a tretch.
most likely explanation is that there was either amnesia or something they couldn't fit due to limitations/thinking it doesn't really matter or something.
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>>575107304
pic unrelated
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>>575107680
cope
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>>575107304
Silver fulfills both criterias
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Sonic has unprotected sex with Surge
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>>575103668
That seems to be the case for most interpretations yes.
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>>575106381
How many children you've raped today?
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>>575107770
>>575107809
i wish they'd reveal silver's origin so ''hes my ships child'' headcanons can die.
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>>575107957
bump you slut
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>>575107957
I need unprotected sex with Bump!
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>>575105276
https://files.catbox.moe/ndd5ex.png
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>>575108232
cope
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXDoCsHjsZ0
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was nakamura a waifufag that wanted to himself with blaze at the time? probably not but i see it more likely than maekawa a mere scripter deciding to put her
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>>575108620
Katie...
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>>575108620
literally iizuka deconfirmed it, idk whats there to cope
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>>575108223
Tailspedo...
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>>575107484
>she knows only one blue hedgehog,
Why would she assume only one blue hedgehog exists across all of spacetime?
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Archie was good for what it was
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>>575110034
No it wasn't. The DiC cartoons were actually better. Reboot was comic slop. Reboot is potentialman+referenceslop the comic.
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>>575109914
because blue hedgehogs are unusual and sonic had a big impact on her. it's weird that she would go along with it so easily without attempting to at least question.

scrapped voicelines has her call out sonic and amy also calls out for blaze so i assume they were planning something but we'll never know what it is unless someone very bored reveals all of sega's vault.
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>>575110120
>Reboot was comic slop.
*preboot

Anyway, you just think its good because youre autistic and like wiki fact collecting.
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>>575110297
>>575110120
it was fun
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They should put Sally in the games but as an NPC that no one talks to
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>>575110235
>because blue hedgehogs are unusual
????
>sonic had a big impact on her.
Sonic is from another dimension.
>scrapped voicelines has her call out sonic and amy also calls out for blaze
Source?
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>>575110434
Make her and her dad humble delivery people and Nicole her IPad friend.
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Establish that SatAM setting like in Sonic forces and make it permanent and this time add the actual freedom fighters and not the lgbt stand ins and make Sally relevant
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>>575110578
>>575110434
>She's just a Ricky in a tiny postal uniform
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>>575110784
No
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The very idea of Sonic having a gang of friends living in hellish oppression that are just permanently stuck that way
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>>575108232
why do you care about headcanons
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>>575110865
https://youtu.be/A0nj-cnAsv8?si=G0NucJvOfR9a9A1l
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>>575091052
i need to the chipmunk so fucking bad someone plea
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>>575110438
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmEGgsqM4k&t=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7lT8pInee8
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>>575110438
NTA, I don't remember the Amy lines but here's some of Blaze's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-IpU_Suz4k&t=410s
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>>575111091
>no timestamps
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>>575110885
you hate action
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>>575111016
it's a blatanly deconfirmed one that's brought up wayy too much in general

i also well, want to learn what silver's actual origin is sometime unrelated to that
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>>575108428
AMY SEXOOOOOOOOOOO
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The main appeal of this series is the characters, right?
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>>575111310
you dont know the origin of every character besides shadow
why silver
also it's deconfirmed as long as iizuka says so, so that's not a thing
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>>575111178
I hate bad ideas.
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>>575111076
anon got so horny he fucking died
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>>575111397
Yes
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>>575111397
It might as well be objective fact at this point, considering how few franchises could get away with having this many shit games in a single decade
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>>575111459
it's not bad. you just hate action adventures
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>>575111397
there's no appeal to this series
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>>575111397
these characters suck ass though
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>>575111397
I would argue the vast majority of the fan base are only still invested because of the character designs.
Yes that includes the porn.
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Kiss the Quokka
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>>575111793
the fuck is a quokka
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>>575111176
2:06 (white acropolis for blaze), she calls out amy in 2:22 too but it doesnt tell which level it was meant for

amy calls out blaze in 4:17
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>>575111579
This is completely backwards compared to my thought process. I was thinking about how the gameplay is designed to help you immerse and understand the character. I think this goal has been accomplished well in most games
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>>575111848
This thing
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>>575112113
he looks like he gargles nuts
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>>575111421
because silver is also a sonic mirror like shadow is, if he was a mink or whatever i would care less.

yes, iizuka deconfirming it is why it annoys me. everyone ignores it.
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>>575112286
>yes, iizuka deconfirming it is why it annoys me. everyone ignores it.
Ignoring Iizuka is standard procedure. His ideas are awful.
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>>575111603
SA2 is action adventure. Your idea's conceit isnt creating action adventure. Its twisting the entire series to revolve around your OCs.
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>>575112434
I like SA2 and Shth. they are my favorite games. I wish there was "more"
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>>575112417
well, silver not being a shadamy child is a good idea. also just because you dont like something doesnt mean its not canon.
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>>575112417
He has never had a bad idea.
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Shadow's is Silver's father because I say so
>but Iizuka said
Don't care
>but it makes no sen-
shut the fuck up nerd
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>>575112602
based me too
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Whisper the woof
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>>575111459
This franchise if full of bad ideas sticking around already. Shadow's game, Silver, 06, Heroes, shovelware storybook shit...
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>>575113227
This character is so fucking botched. She would be so cool if she wasn't written by a woman
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>>575113334
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>>575113334
this is why i kind of laugh at people thinking it's ''misogyny'' that ppl like the male sonic characters more than the female ones, all of them are written by +60 year old men unless comic stuff.
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>>575113241
Don't forget the Zeti
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>>575113227
she cute
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>>575113736
she'd be cuter if she wasn't retarded
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>>575113736
She be do
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These characters fucking suck, they're only meant for children
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>>575114067
i don't think you should fucking suck children, that sounds immoral
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>>575114067
I would never let my child grow up on Sonic
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>>575113927
But that's WHY she's cute!!!!!
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>>575114067
But we’re all manchildren, So they’re made for us
>>575114263
This franchise might suck some, but atleast it isnt intentionally malicious like some other kids stuff going around
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Projecting tailsfaggot? Many such cases.
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>>575114386
>yellow legs
yuck
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>>575114590
Image board website posting in a thread about animal characters all day
If you think you aren’t atleast a little afflicted you’re just lying to yourself
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>>575114782
When the coloring error is better than the actual fur pattern. Idk what Evan was on with her.
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>>575113241
Those are all great.
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>>575113241
None of these were bad ideas. All were good and hated on for the sake of dunks rather than for the idea itself.
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>all day
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>>575114413
Tails is so beautiful...
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>>575114413
Tails, you don't have to cook! I know you work hard, helping to save the world and all..Let ME cook for you... <3
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>>575115234
>filename
Who’s gregory
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>>575115903
we don't talk about gregory
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The Japanese manual of Sonic Frontiers says Amy chases Sonic. The English version says she likes adventure instead
The Japanese manual of Sonic Frontiers says Tails looks up to Sonic. The English version says he considers Sonic a big brother
These manual differences match the in-game dialogue
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>>575116343
play your kartslop like a good goy
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The Japanese manual of Sonic Origins says Amy considers herself Sonic's girlfriend. The English version says she is Sonic's greatest fan
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>>575116551
These pussies need to finally kill off the other, this franchise can’t continue with 2 separate contradicting story paths at every turn
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>>>/co/154737356
Nice thread sonicbabs
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>>575116551
>>575116767
Amy's characterization pre Sonic Movie 4 is irrelevant
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Genuine question lads.
Why this fandom genuinely wants surge to be sonic trade waifu/onahole/partner when the whole deal with her is how she's literally programed to hate/kill him/be his enemy and make his life miserable.
Even when she started to have a mind of her own again, the deal with her is how she still blames sonic existence as the reason she got kidnapped, mindwiped, modified, and killed multiple times by starline.
The girl actually can't even stand sonic at all, why this fandom wants to make her the literally contrary as she actually is?
I expect something more that someone saying shipperfags being faggots as always, you know, an actual answer.
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>>575116927
because its amusing
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>>575116849
Thanks
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>>575116927
It's just fanon nigga.

It's not any more offensive than Sonic being gay for Shadow, and look how popular that is.
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>>575116551
>modern games
>manuals
Nta, but ???
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>>575116683
It needs more TRAAAACCCKSS
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>>575116927
>genuinely
Not really, it's to trigger amyfags
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Calm thread
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>>575116927
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So you let a Sonally fan write the games and suddenly Amy wants to move on
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>>575116875
That's sad

>>575117098
Digital manual, yes
https://manual.sega.jp/sonicfrontiers/en/
https://manual.sega.jp/sonicfrontiers/switch2/en/
https://manual.sega.jp/sonicfrontiers/switch2/jp/
(It say Switch 2 but I think the original had the same character profiles, I just can't find the Japanese version of the non-Swich 2 release)
https://manuals.sega.com/origins/en/index.html?pid=3
https://manuals.sega.com/origins/jp/index.html?pid=3
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Evens I fap to Whisper, again
Odds I fap to Tangle
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>>575117539
The only right answer
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>>575117539
Women can be furries too you know
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>>575117704
Whisper is going to become real sticky at this rate...
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>>575116808
Go outside for a bit
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>>575117576
Man all this info, and they can't even bothered to make physical manuals anymore.
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>>575117758
Women prefer like actual hideous beasts rather than anthropomorphic males for whatever reason
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>>575117539
Just right now, this is the only reply that's actually makes sense.
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>>575116927
Sonurge just makes sense
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>>575117758
doesn't make a significant difference desu
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>>575116927
It's the tsundere trope. In anime it is very common for a girl to be introduced blindly hating the protagonist for irrational reasons and then becoming smitten with him by the end. In fact it is more common for this to happen than for a female character to actually be a rival. Some people find this satisfying. It's the whole development thing. They like when a character changes so much they basically become different by the end.
Most tsunderes who actually end up with the hero also turn into tradwives. They lose all their bite and become the biggest simps.

They usually start out hating the hero genuinely, then they start blushing and only pretending to hate him. Then something dramatic happens that makes them come to terms that they fell in love.
You are guaranteed to see at least one of these in a harem anime.
Some of these people just don't like Amy.
Or they want to fuck Surge and see Sonic as the way to do it.
Some just have a rape abuse fetish and like the idea of a girl being forcibly fucked by a guy she hates. A dominance thing.
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Women love rape, this is why I dont feel bad when I draw rape
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>>575117539
only sonurge fans i see are male though, its the new sonaze since silver killed sonaze/it was never there to begin with arguably, women dont like either.
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>>575118045
tons of women like SSS
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>>575118252
Buttermoth and Rheal are both women. That whole Sonurge as humans AU is made by an openly queer phobic woman
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Art that displays human misery how it actually is its infinitely beautiful, therefore rape art is infinitely beautiful
Case closed
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Imagine hating the cutest ship of this franchise.
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>>575117724
>Blaze trying to force herself as a friend as if she's not a lonely loser who nobody wants to talk to
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>>575116927
I forgot kit and surge got eviscerarted and killed multiple times by starline, and are basically immortal by some kind of healing factor.
Kinda dark for the sonic franchise, specially knowing both were mindcontrolled too, but is kina rad as a concept.
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>>575116927
it's like a few people astroturfing it, in reality probably even nothingburger stuff like silvamy or blazamy have more fans
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>>575118252
For men sex isn't just a pleasurable thing you do with a lover but also a way to punish someone while getting pleasure for yourself.
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>>575118252
> Badass rival girl turned lover
It's a male oriented trope afterall
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>>575116927
Sonamy doesn't make any sense. Sonic would never slow down for her
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Nugget
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>>575118668
A backstory genuinely too based for Sonic and had to be watered right the fuck down.
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>>575118510
i can probably find female artists that draw sontails, sonally and sonaze, doesn't mean that they aren't fanbases with primarily male audience. exceptions don't really disprove the rule.
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>>575118897
Now this is a fetish, I don't understand.
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>>575118729
>>575118816
most female made content(at least for sonic) is just cutesy normie fluff + gayshit and since men either find this boring or dislike it they focus on the exceptions that is weird freaky stuff or violence when it's about prevelant or arguably less prevelant than cuck content by males.
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>>575118663
Women aren’t allowed to post in this thread
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On the one hand Sonurge is definitely male oriented but on another the dynamic fans keep giving it is literally the dynamic Rumiko Takahashi gives to all of her anime couples
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hmm
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>>575118729
that's what women think men think about sex
>>575118968
i have no data to back it up but i would bet money that sontails is a primarily female audience because yaoi is for women
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>>575119001
you don't want to have all your limbs cut off and get treated like a wittle baby?
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>>575116927
Self reply, but the cool thing, is how sonic is treated as samurai jack in his cartoon.
Is almost a death wish to fights against him, and villains are really aware the odds of winning against him is very slim and low, so surge or any villian vengeance is almost impossible.
Ironically only two villians could temporarily defeat sonic, mephiles and infinite.
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>>575119594
I need to post the actual cover, I would love a poster of it.
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>>575119490
tails appeals more to femboy gooners than women imo(well some women like him for being cute but not sexually). women prefer moreso bishonen like SSS imo. and the edgy rival mirroring thing is a classic imo

female oriented ships imo are sonamy,sonadow,shadamy,silvaze, shadouge, blazamy,whispangle.
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>>575119172
They are
Blaze is just a low life form.
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Surge was made to be beaten up over and over without breaking or at least be extremely reparable
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>>575119869(me)
that and men are less likely to moralfag about sontails age gap
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the Blaze slander stops now
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>>575120183
i don't dislike blaze myself but her fanbase can be a bit annoying
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>>575119592
):<
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Cute!
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>>575120642
tiddies too big
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>>575119869
The dynamics for Sonic are quite simple.

> He is being chased or is holding back feelings
Female oriented ship

> He chases, fights or plays therapist with the girl
Male oriented ship
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>>575120691
Sonic impregnated her
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>>575120512
isn't that every character fanbase?
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So is IDW going to include Sonic's new lightning effects
That will definitely change his dynamic with Surge
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>>575118729
As a man, that's kinda fucked up, and im saying it as someone who actually had sex, unless is a hatefuck, thats messed up on your actual partner, but reconciliation sex exist too for example, and that's pretty much same thing.
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>>575118210
It's not really rape. Chicks in these types of fiction are always wet i.e. in heat. It's all performative.
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Some of you here would no joke think killing the other over pixels on the screen, shipping shit especially. Looking on you, Sonamyfags.
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>>575121226
This only strengthens sonurge
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>>575121591
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WHEN IS THE NEXT RIDE
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>>575121903
When the next game gets announced
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>>575119284
Not even kind of.
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>>575120691
Kinda funny, specially knowing surge is on blaze's level of chest plankness.
>>575118668
Imposter syndrome was soo good.
>>575118914
Besides imposter syndrome, I think the immortality thing has been used just one time with surge, but I mean, how do you make this a recurrent thing without being too graphic.
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>>575117561
And it's made even worse by the fact that he has a team of sycophants at Sega of America running cover for him and carrying out his agenda against Amy
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Shadow but he's written like Citizen Vigilante
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>>575122072
Bestie!
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Surge loves Sonic. And Sonic loves adventure
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God fucking damn it, does she always have to leech to him? doesn't she have any other friends?
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>>575118897
Man sometimes fetishes, doesn't even make sense, because I really don't get how people would find this hot, It this a power thing?
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>>575122032
With Starline out the picture, the 'immortality' likely isn't a factor anymore. There's no one to rebuild her.
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>>575121838
sonic93 is definitely not better lol
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>>575122174
Shut up, Duo
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>>575122191
is the silverfag that dislikes blaze someone i know on twitter? i only know one silverfag that actively dislikes blaze thats why i ask

anyways to sega, blaze is silvers amy.
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>>575122456
>anyways to sega, blaze is silvers amy.
The term of an "Amy" to someone is weird now, like fan? a gf? a lead? a mom? a follower? an inspirer?
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>>575122283
They dont need starline to rebuild them, they have a wolverine/deadpool kind of factor, they automatically heal themselves.
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>>575121971
What is taking Sonic Team so long just to give details on it?
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/147592171
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>>575122706
Honestly I forget the details, but regardless it seems easy enough to hand wave to not feature it again.
Which is a shame, because they've swept most of Surge/Kit's backstory under a carpet already.
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>>575122682
the way i use it, it means girlfriendbait/shipbait
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Dudes, San Diego comic-com started today, do we have anything interesting for us besides, takashi lizuka being the main sonic idw panelist and archie megaman getting revived?
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Sonic Rumble will be doing a pass event specifically based on the Clean Sweepstakes arc of idw. Issue 69-73
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>>575122456
Silverfags are growing in dislike of Blaze now since she's getting exposed slowly and slowly as a fraud, why do you think the ship is sinking?
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Fuck the IDW discourse already Gemerl is in Rumble
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>>575118729
Gay and or repressed gay male behavior
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>>575123002
But that arc was fucking terrible
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>>575122842
Why does Amy look so good as a human?
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>>575122191
Fagver is the one with zero friends in this series retard. Let’s not act like these two getting slapped together is a surprise when this is about the gorillionth time it’s happened.
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>>575123005
it's mostly blazefags that dislike it while silverfags don't really care one way or the other. the ship isn't sinking because regardless of what we want it's what sonic team ships.
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>>575122959
Well, truth to be told the comic right now is makinga mystery kit and surge origins, so is probably to make something interesting with them later.
The interesting stuff is knowing how much surge resisted being mindcontroled, compared to kit, while right now kit is the one is getting prepared to be the actual main villian.
Let's see what the future is when it actually happens.
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>>575122440
Duo is a retard, but he's correct and based on this.

Let it go. Sonic will never love Amy back ever.
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>>575123038
>[character nobody's interested in] is in [a game nobody plays]
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>>575122968
If Sega thinks they want to shipbait them than they're failing miserably, apart from he fact that they show better dynamics with other characters that'll feel like cucking, their scenes are just so empty they didn't even try
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>>575123002
This is technically the first time a comic book arc is being adapted in a game and it's Sonic Team's project no less.
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>>575123439
Whoops pic related.
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>>575122191
>>575122456
I don't mind Silver and Blaze being paired up sometimes, my problem is that Sega/Sonic Team don't do anything interesting with their dynamic. They shill them together a lot but they don't give it any more depth or lore, their story in 06 is all they have
It's like they have some kind of untold story between them they want to tell but they never get to make it because if you're not Sonic or Shadow you get nothing
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>>575123320
Because drawn humans are more enticing than real humans or animal mascots.
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>>575123320
she looks good but her bangs would look better if they were towards the right
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If you hate Sonurge you don't understand windnic like I do
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>>575123459
This is bait
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>>575123337
Silver had team ups, banters and fucks around with IDW chicks
Blaze is so redundant and lonely they have to make up that characters already know who she is like Amy and Knuckles without any prior introduction
Sega knows this and they're using Silver to keep her afloat.
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>>575123642
Insane lack of willpower on that kid.
Makes sense then that he would easily go full meltdown.
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>>575123002
>>575123631
Does it have an in-game story?
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>>575123608
yet it's still the most popular ship for two of them and the ones getting the merch. whether you feel about it, its mostly the autistic niche twitter/4chan places complaining while the general audiences like the ship or are neutral on it. same for sonamy btw. im not trying to shipfag there but you guys need a reality check

>>575123648
i myself think they were going to had 06 not failed. silver and blaze for that matter are sort of in a limbo, there was supposed to be something there but they got cut due to meta era stuff.
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>>575123002
>>575123631
That's interesting, specially knowing how sega made the comic a big deal now, 20 years ago that was almost comically unthinkable.
That arc had really cool riders designs, so I'm not surprised they used as an inspiration for alternative outfits.
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>>575124119
Eggman and Sonic play with toys
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>>575124223
I know that, I mean something more as part of this IDW event
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>>575123968
sonic team doesn't care about idw or western stuff outside of using it for filler. also idwver is a humiliation ritual in general.
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>>575123968
>IDW chicks
Yes we know he’s a pansy lady boy and favorite of at least one of the hack writers. Imagine giving a fuck about the shit comics and thinking that Sega does. Lmfao
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>>575124226
More like this.
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>>575123908
Sure is, bestie!
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>>575124423
i think he's probably rayanee on twitter, hes the only silverfag i know that obsesses over blaze this much and also gives a fuck about silvisper or supposed idw harem as an alternative. even silverfags that dislike silvaze that i know of still think the diamond cutter stuff is humilating normally.
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>>575124345
Probably not, it's just using it for the outfits
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>>575123608
It's because characters slapped together on a mission doesn't means the writers are trying to imply a romance, it feels like cucking or it would feel like that, because people are confusing functional/plot/team dynamics for romantic development and character dynamics.
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They touch each other a lot
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>>575124704
So not really an adaptation
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>>575123002
It will always made me mad how now much surge is getting shilled with idw, but they always forget her and kit are a combo deal, until speed simulator introduced him.
We already know kit is coming to rumble too in the future.
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>>575124779
everyting on 06 is trying to imply romantic metaphors, even iblis/mephiles.
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>>575123531
I don't play it... anymore.
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>>575124965
>Ibliles self-cest ship
Hmm...
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>>575124930
its because surge is an aurafarming character and those are the only ones sonic fans give shit about.
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>>575125114
its kinda like void and lumina.
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>>575123337
>Fagver is the one with zero friends in this series retard
Blazesissy, let's read some lore:
Rush: Blaze meets Cream, befriends her, fights with Sonic, HE befriends HER
Rush adventure: Blaze meets Marine, she doesn't give a fuck
Sonic 06: Silver meets Amy, befriends her, meets Shadow, befriends him, make amends with Sonic then befriends him
Rivals 2: meets Espio, befriends him
Forces: goes to Knuckles, befriends him, meet the chaotix, befriends all of them, Silver takes care of Tails and talks to him occasionally,
IDW: befriends Whisper, tangle, ends up befriending the entire diamond cutters

Blaze friend group: Cream, Sonic(probably)
Silver friend group, Amy, Sonic, Shadow, Espio, Knuckles, Vector, Charmy, Tails, Whisper, Tangle, Jewel, Bell, Lanolin
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>>575124794
I want to touch her
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>>575124807
Adapted in the sense that it's using elements specific to that arc like the Phantom Rider and the Diamond Cutters using the generic boards since they were referees instead of the ones Tangle and Whisper got in Crossworlds. Surge vs the Phantom Rider also being a big focus of that arc etc. Having them as one full event instead of released individually one at a time is the biggest indicator.
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>>575099625
>We have 10 different movile games on google play at the same time and they aren't competing with each other because I say so
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>Blackwood
>Infinite
why is cuckcoldry suddenly a silvaze thing?
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>>575124579
You're the one in denial
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>>575125709
Blaze is only good at NTR piece of meat
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>>575125352
>schizo delusional babble
Of course a Shitver stain can’t argue in good faith. Just makes shit up. Fuck off already.
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i don't get why shtg doesn't understand that shadouge and silvaze are characters directions like sonamy is. you don't have to like it, but i can observe what objectiely is the direction they want to take regardless of what i persosally ship or don't ship.

oh well its probably rayanee whos posting ship drama here outside of sonurge astroturfing by duo.
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>[namefag] and [namefag]
Sonic?
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>>575126117
Nta but Blaze really has no meaningful dynamics or memorable scenes with anyone other than Cream, her two hedgehogs friendship are fan made at best and only get brought up due to shipping.
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>>575126121
Shadouge sure, it was put together in SA2 just like Knuckles and Rouge. It can be argued either way regardless of who you ship because there's a basis for both.
Silvaze tries to leech off of the direction of these and sonamy but it doesn't work because Blaze was her own thing without Silver and the game that puts them together is pieced together with sticks and glue. And the next game Blaze was in still had nothing to do with him. The basis isn't there, they're just forced into that role by extension of the actual solidified relationships existing already and banking on that to carry silvaze.
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>>575126770
Not true when she’s had great scenes with Marine and Sonic as well. You don’t have to be a shipper to appreciate what she and Sonic had in the Rush games. I could just as easily say Silver has had no meaningful scenes with anybody other than Sonic or Shadow.
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>>575124965
if Sonic ´06 was about romance in every arc, if THAT was the attempt they would have failed catasprophically, miserably at the execution.

But that wasn't the overall intention, it was half-way for Sonic and Elise and even this failed pretty hard too.
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>>575125014
I also had fun for awhile, kudos to the sonic team for trying but now I get why fall guys fell off so quickly. The game can't be updated quick enough before you lose interest
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>>575123762
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Orrrrrr we could just vault Blaze and Silver. They bought us nothing but problems.
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>Shadouge
Fuck off. They don't like each other. Shadow is never going to be interested in her. You are just as delusional as Sonurgefags
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>>575127193
I, am SPEED
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>>575126981
i personally think her ending up in 06 was planned but i dont feel like debating that.
regardless, silvaze is what sonic team wants to do and also what the general normie fanbase portion of the fanbase either likes or is largely okay with. you can dislike it, but when someone asks ''why are they together in merch'' and i say ''because sega/sonic team sees blaze as silver's amy'' i am telling you what is objectively there. not what is ''good''
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>>575121226
they will just make Surge's electricity green
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>>575127150
>Silver has had no meaningful scenes with anybody other than Sonic or Shadow.
That's phenomenally much more better than a 2 seconds DS animation with Mariana the Raccoon.
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>>575127587
Krack...
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Sonic 5 will introduce Sonurge
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>>575127407
the normies dont mind the duo, its autismfags on twitter and 4chan that care.

>>575127587
shadow not being interested in her is part of the dynamic. shes into a guy whos volcel but his purity is what she likes.
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>>575127915
>shadow not being interested in her is part of the dynamic
Shadouge tard cope. There is no Shadouge
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>>575127587
>Coping again
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>>575127217
nah you just have western problem of not reading between the lines and probably think romantic subtext means dating or kissin.
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>>575128081
You were literally told officially that Shadow and Rouge aren't friends. Why is that hard to accept? You are literally against Sega now. You're basically archiefags.
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>>575128049
i am not a shadouge shipper. but its objectively something sonic team played with.
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>>575128217
>making up shit
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very organic posting ITT
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Sonic/Elise had an entire ass of a game pushing for it, several cutscenes and lines of development, and it sucked absolute ass so hard it almost brought the franchise down with it.

Sonic/Sharah had 1/30th of the development and it's already a billion times better.
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>>575092141
2, then she wakes up and kicks his ass.
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>>575127840
why is dog eat worm. wwhy is Dog eat wodm
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Just admit that Sonurge is hot
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>>575128281
Fuck off Shadougetard
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>>575128519
i don't think shadow likes her if that's what you have beef with. the one sidedness and volcel is part of the dynamic and its what rouge likes about him.

i dont even like it as a romance and think shadikal is better. but sure you guys will ask the 32432432 time about silver/blaze or shadow/rouge pairings in merchslop when the answer is right there.
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>>575128427
Just as ooc as Shadouge
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>>575125352
>Silver meets Amy, befriends her,
Amy befriends HIM
Amy the friendwrangler!
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>>575125709
Silver was made to be protected
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>>575128787
>shadikal
Fuck off
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>>575127652
>i am telling you what is objectively there. not what is ''good''
Everyone and their mom can see what is there retard that's why we're complaining about it. Because it's fucking stupid and we don't like it. Nobody needs to be told these things so long as they have working eyes. Everyone is arguing on the basis that its dogshit regardless that this is their direction. It can change
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>>575128109
Amazing romantic subtext in ´06, some Rockstar games RDR2 tier fucking writing right there, maybe my not Japanese IQ can't grasp the nuances and subitleties of FUCKING SONIC ´06

It's almost as if ´06 is not one of the worst fucking written videogames of the entire industry.
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>>575128889
fanartists get this wrong, blaze is the amy/side damsel figure.
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I wish 06 never happened. It made Shadougefags think there's any chance
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>>575123002
I would kill for a new sonic riders games similar to the first one.
Having idw characters in those outfits, would be pretty cool.
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>>575127652
>sega/sonic team sees blaze as silver's amy''
Silver is Blaze's Amy and that merch is proof. Silver is in the Amy spot while Blaze is in the Sonic spot.
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>>575128305
A bunch of samefagging from a sonurge skitzo to fend off an imaginary sonamyfag.
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>>575128370
Fennecs actively hunt for worms
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>>575128305
Fish Cunny
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>>575129405
dog likes chicokn nugger
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>>575128318
Nah, the thing with shahra was how much she suffered for loving erazor djinn, at the point she almost betrayed sonic for him.
How could sonic be her man, when she had the worst break up a girl could had.
Still, I guess she would feel incredibly grateful of sonic for releasing her chains on that toxic relationship.
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>>575129218
>gameplay vs cutscenes where Silver is a little beta boy for Blaze
fanartist are right
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>>575129357
sad thing is he's doing it over on /co/ too
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>>575129009
nah they legitimately think ''its only a reference to 06'' and not actual character direction. and

it can only change if it is coming from western side or if it was something fanmade. you're arguing about something SOJ internally ships. and wants to be a duo, regardless you guys aren't the majority either, total normies like the duo or just dont think about it.

>>575129172
you don't need a particularly high iq to get it. i think i ve seen more casuals understand this stuff than sonic fans because sonic fans are uniquely literalbrained.
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>>575129218
This reads more to me as "Silver needing to man up to be worthy of her" if anything.
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>>575128810
Amy can make friends with anyone. It's canon.
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>>575129623
she's an occasional support thats mostly a side character. silver is the one that takes stardom and takes most of the initiatice.
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All of you shippers are delusional and insane
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>>575129884
it kinda is supposed to be that but the fact he mans up at all means the point of the dynamic shouldnt be like what the fanart portrays it as.
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>>575125430
I see
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>>575129741
> you don't need a particularly high iq to get it. i think i ve seen more casuals understand this stuff than sonic fans because sonic fans are uniquely literalbrained.

Let me guess, put a boy and a girl in their most obvious team pairings and confuse that for romantic development?
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>>575129635
He is
>>575116849
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>>575130482
nah that's wave jet and tails cream, theres more to silver+blaze+rouge/shadow sonic/amy and even mephiles/iblis than jet/wave and taiream but i don't feel like debating that since you already appear to be the closeminded or literal brained type.
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>>575129902
Even though we call them Sonic's shitty friends, really its more like Sonic's shitty orbiters.
Amy is the one actually befriending everyone.
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Make more stories about Jet so people stop begging for Sonic to be something he never was
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>>575129343
blaze needs to be a main character for once when she and silver are paired if she wants the sonic spot.
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>>575130714
What is the romantic development for Silver and Blaze outside of their literal functional team dynamics?
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>>575130146
But the end has him not be able to fully commit and then has Blaze admit she likes that softer aspect of him before she leaves.

Whatever the case, I dont get how anyone can interpret their dynamic as Silver being this chad and her being his armcandy when its clear she is meant to be seen as the more experienced person helping him out.
Amy and Rouge are portrayed as more subservient role towards their respective hedgehogs for a pack of a better term by comparison.
Meanwhile Blaze is the one looking after and guiding Silver.
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>>575129623
this
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>>575130971
You people dont actually care about character portrayal or dynamics. Kts just profilicity king of the kill bullshit at the end of the day. Just about who gets to be seen as a main character or not. Smh
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>>575128318
>>575129584
Everyone's knows merlina wins, she was the most gorgeous of the bunch of humanistic sonic girls.
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>Thinking anyone can win the Sonicbowl
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>>575126981
Knuckles and rouge was put together as a result of sonic x though, shadow and rouge comes from saw due to team dark
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>>575131859
Shadouge is bullshit. Knuxouge is literally canon. Shadow and Rouge don't even flirt. It never happened.
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>>575131765
Chillidos and endless adventures already won the sonic bowl and sonic heart as a whole.
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>>575131765
>wanting Amy to hog it for her shitty pink self
Not fooling anyone with your performative wingfagging.
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You guys come up with a lot of fanfiction for Sonic and Shadow and in the end of the day they won't validate any ships
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>>575132035
lol
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>>575132125
>Chillidos
GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE
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Tails is the closest person to Sonic's heart
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>>575132378
Sonic isn't gonna fuck him, bro.
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Tails is the closest to my heart also

>>575132548
That's right, because this is a series for families!
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>>575132360
Dude, chillidogs are a thing in the games since unleashed and black knight. You're way too late for that complain.
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>>575132035
other way around anon
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>>575131215
>>575131859
>>575132035

I am going to press that about Shadow and Rouge, Rouge does show some level of exhasperation or frustration at Shadow for not properly acknowledging her affections or her worries about him, in a way that is similar to Amy and Sonic, IF Shadow and Rouge have some sort of signature romantic dynamics it's probably that, if THAT is the intention.

I know Sonic's dynamic with Amy, I know his dynamics with Blaze, hell I even know it with Rouge, I know Knuckles with Rouge, and I sorta can see where Shadow/Rouge fans see it, all subtle romantic dynamics with varying degrees of reciprocity.

Silver and Blaze I can't think of a single thing.
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>>575132778
Omega my fucking GOAT
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>>575131215
it's more metaphorical than literal onscreen character devolopment.

firstly, the whole game is romance themed with sonelise, amy, rouge and even the conflict starting with solaris experiment being done because elise's father wanted to bring back his wife back. that already sets up a game theme.

second- dreams of an absolution was written with romantic intent, you might bring up the singer being gay or whatever but that doesn't really matter in the eyes of sega because the song carries a leitmotif with ''you are my companion'' used for blaze's scenes.

after, when silver doesn't want to sacrifice blaze for the sake of the world, it mirrors the scenes where amy/elise/and rouge don't want to sacrifice their loved ones for the world. and in the sacrifice scene, blaze says that she likes his naivety, even though she used that as an insult before, turning around in a sorta kuudere/tsundere way. the sacrifice also mirrors what one could say are ''tragedyslop'' like maria or cosmo's scenes which are romantic themed. silver and blaze aren't directly lovers but they wanted the dynamic to have some undertones or themes for artsy intent.

i typed all this out but i guess the response its going to get anyway so its in vain. you can just ignore it. i don't ship this and still understood it.
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there are 23 people online rn on jazz jackrabbit 2. we haven't had those numbers since the early 2010s. i remember till last year the online servers were a wasteland with no one but some bots
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>>575131413
what makes silver ''the amy'' in your opinion? i feel like it comes more from fandom overly feminizing silver than how the dynamic is actually portrayed in the little material they have. but id like to hear an explanation if you have an argument.
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>>575131765
Ehh... Amy is the closest but let's not delude ourselves thinking it will be something different than the endless will they, Won't they? Situationship. No one is actually gonna win, as long as sonic still produce games.
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>>575132035
>momthrowing in 2026
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Amy is the only love interest character written with windnic in mind
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>>575132658
Trippy stairs
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>>575132902
>>575131215
further, the otherworldly comedy thing has some references to amy dolling up blaze for him but silver being ''naive'' and there's some asian tropes like ''my body moved on its own'' ''ill wait 200 years for you etc.''dont rly remember
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>>575132778
Team Dark still aren't friends. You have a shallow understanding of the characters. Rouge's only love interest is Knuckles.
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>>575131218
sure silver is not a chad with an arm candy piece, but i dont think sonamy or shadouge are that either desu. amy actually girlbosses or defies sonic a lot in older games or sonic x but people dont notice due to her girlier and warmer behaviour.
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Ignore the cringey dialogue and appreciate the art
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Shadougefags are literally Archiefags. They see the characters the same way
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>>575132803
The primary ships of the series are
>Sonic and Amy
>Shadow and Rouge
>Silver and Blaze
The reason why silver and blaze doesn't feel as established is because unlike, sonamy and shadouge, the former wasn't foundational to the character. Amy was designed with her crush on sonic in mind, rouge was designed with her crush on shadow in mind, blaze was just a princess that mirrored sonic. However, it's indisputable how sega feels about silvaze versus sonaze, they clearly want to pair silver with blaze similar to how sonic is traditionally paired with amy and shadow is traditionally paired with rouge because it completes a trifecta that is good for marketing. It also makes sense for the three most popular girls to be paired with the three most popular guys.
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>>575133749
I hope this is incredibly successful and Ian has to work for it full time at the cost of Sonic projects
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>>575133470
Yeah, team dark is still seen as an team, a a bunch of comrades.
I agree withe knuckles, hes the actual love interest of rouge, because shadow will never have the eyes for none other than maria, still, I thought right now she started to have attraction towards espio, but the dude is incredibly married to his job and his team in the chaotix case files.
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>>575133834
>>Shadow and Rouge
Stop forcing this literal headcanon
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>>575132680
Back then it was used in a way that was acceptable. It's overdone and overplayed now. Bro hasn't eaten anything else in years.
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>>575132778
This isnt even accurate.
Team dark is

Rouge: Im counting on you guys!
Shadow : Hmmph!
Omega: [Affirmative]
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>>575133834
>Three most popular girls
>Blaze
LOL? That fucking longclaw tier shipping OC who is only relevant in three games
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>>575133749
I don't care for people having a hate boner for flynn here, this actually makes me happy.
>>575133849
For real what kind of brain dump is this? A single comic is not gonna change anything at all, idw right now isn't even written by flynn but Evan Stanley.
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>>575133939
It's not even about shipping at this point as it is the connection Shadow and Rouge have has been established in their debut game with them siding with each other in the Dark side story with Eggman.
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>>575133939
Play the games and bother sega about it, I'm just stating what's apparent. I think most of the angry shipfagging are just people projecting their headcanons onto the characters and not actually examining the games critically, or letting non-canon media warp their view if the franchise.
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>>575133834
i think her being a sonic mirror is why sonaze is ''platonic'' you don't fuck your parallel dimension mirror. sonic and blaze is important but not as a love interest
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Shadow and Rouge aren't friends because they literally have no involvement with each other when the world isn't ending. They don't hang out. Rouge legitimately spends more time around Sonic at this point because Shadow is too antisocial.

No she doesn't want to fuck Sonic either.
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>>575134175
Who cares about IDW? I don't want him writing for the games.
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>>575134369
Wrong.
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>>575133083
Amy says she would give up Sonic for the world
Rouge says she will stay with Shadow even if the world opposes him
Silver is told to give up Blaze and says he cant and won't give her up because she is his friend.
That is putting him in the Amy position in the respective dynamic.
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>>575133749
Wait... number 0? Is this a prequel or a reprint? Interesting to know they chage the name of the comic, is it gonna be its own thing? or udon is gonna use it to game worldbuilding? Archie megaman mostly sticked to the games, while having few originals.
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>>575133939
>TIL SA2, Heroes, ShTH, 06, Riders, Rivals, Generations, Forces, IDW, Dark Beginnings, Shadgens, Team Sonic Racing, Crossworlds, Sonic Battle and any other games where they appear are all headcanon
How delusional are you knucklesfag
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>>575134179
Not really. Rouge was made to be a Knuckles parallel first and foremost, so much that she was originally the power type in Team Rose alongside Amy and Cream. Then they decided to bring back Shadow and rework the teams, and since Shadow had no connections up to that point besides Rouge and Eggman from SA2, the latter of which wouldn't be playable, they changed her to a fly type in Shadow's team alongside a new character, Omega

Basically, Rouge and Shadow's connection was something developed later
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>>575133834
The problem with the trifecta theory is simple, on-screen development.

Rouge flirts more with Sonic than she flirts with Shadow of all the fucking things.

Blaze is shown to be more infatuated over Sonic on-screen than Sonic himself is shown to be infatuated over fucking Amy.

It's more likely Sonic forms a fucking harem than we having three stable romantic pairings, the whole thing just falls apart.
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>>575133834
>Sonic and Amy
False because windoshitto. they are besties
>Shadow and Rouge
Also false and comes from Iizuka and confirmed by Ian. they are business partners and even the games got Shadow tell Rouge to fuck off
>Silver and Blaze
nothing burger but whatever you can have it
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>>575134476
Even if you ignore idw rouges only social life involves Sonic's friends, not Shadow. She only involves herself with him for missions.
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>>575134369
It doesn't matter that they're not friends or there aren't any romantic feelings are involved because they are paired together in most content anyways and that's the point being made
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>>575133104
>will they, Won't they?
Its funny. Ian accused it of being that before when it wasnt. It was a game of cat and mouse.
But now it actually feels more like a will they won't they now that they made Amy stop being aggressive with him.
This fandom is filled with backwards ameritard idiots.
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>>575134389
Geez man, I have a bad news for you.
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>>575134590
Shadow and Rouge aren't romantic in any of those you lying shit
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>>575134592
>Rouge was made to be a Knuckles parallel first and foremost
That doesn't matter. It is factual she has connection to Knuckles in this sense while still being grouped with the original Team Dark that was her, Shadow and Eggman. The foundation for both connections are laid out in SA2 which future content would expand on. Silver and Blaze don't have this let alone a base to justify doing it.
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>>575134697
Reminder that Ian made Sally wait 25 years for Sonic
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>>575134697
Are we going to ignore modern games right now? Amy situationship with sonic has been like this since 2008. In unleashed and black knight they even tried to go on a date, until shenanigans happened, frontiers just made it even more clear and that's it.
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>>575134592
>Rouge was made to be a Knuckles parallel first and foremost
How much if a brainrotten shipfag do you have to be to not understand that of course she was, BECAUSE THEY WERE RVIALS. But there was never and emotional bond because they HATE each other. They DO NOT LIKE each other, and don't want ANYTHING TO DO with one another. Shadow and Rouge were bonding from the very beginning. The only reason Lizuka made his stupid "not friends" statement was because shadow is supposed to be marketed as a cool lone wolf antihero.

Rouge might have been created around knuckles, but she was also created around shadow. She was created to OPPOSE knuckles and COMPLIMENT shadow.
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>>575134620
> rouge flirts more with sonic.

she doesn't really, and when she does everyone knows she isn't actually genuine about it like she is with shadow or knuckles, a femme fatale flirting for gain isn't a proof the ship is an actual thing

blaze isn't shown to be infauted with either of them, you have to read shipping stuff online to actually interpret a handshake as romance.

i am convinced a lot of you guys mix up what actually happened in the games with fanart, 4chan autistic discussions and comics.
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>>575134998
And only because Shadow in that universe was a jackass. which is not Sally's type even in SatAM
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>>575116551
>The Japanese manual of Sonic Frontiers says Tails looks up to Sonic. The English version says he considers Sonic a big brother
Unlike the Amy example, though, Tails' English descriptions just re-emphasize an existing trait (picrel for example). If anything, recent Japanese descriptions tend to drop the surrogate-brother connection, which is weird. Maybe because they prefer writing Tails as gadget-boy instead of player-two?
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>>575135036
She isn't genuine at all with knuckles are you high? She just enjoys fucking with him because he's a retard and she wants his big rock. The only person she actually likes and is genuine with is Shadow.
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>>575133636
Yes, the people who claim Amy was one note are actually just incapable of appreciating female characters with more than 1 note.
But still. Sonic and Shadow are still positioned as the one the girl is showing devotion to rather than the reverse.
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>>575135027
i think her beta designs look a lot like edgy amy.
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>>575135036
She objectively does. The last time Rouge actually said anything flirty to Shadow in a canon game was Sonic Battle
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>>575133834
>Shadow and rouge
No one who ever played the games will have such an opinion.
Damn, sonic adventure 2 is even the most famous sonic game as people still try to deny things there, the same can be said with the knuckles and rouge ending in sonic heroes.
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>>575135226
She's basically shadow's amy so I wouldn't have been surprised if that was intentional, kind of how terios looks like edgy sonic.
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>>575135172
>And only because Shadow in that universe was a jackass
You're not gonna believe who's fault this was
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>>575133834
>shadouge
>foundational
Lmao
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>>575135385
It was an alt time line where there was no Amy to talk-no-jutsu Shadow out of his murderous rampage
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>>575133834
>shadow and rouge
Man, this place even tries to play the games anymore? This is the kind of guy who thinks a woman is into him just for being nice.
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Shadougefaggots are coping hard as if Rouge didn't literally flirt with Knuckles in Forces.
She doesn't flirt with Shadow, she's just nice to him.
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>>575135201
it kind of existed in x.

i feel like ''make sonic a haremchad'' thing is coming from archiefagging a little because in the actual games while sonic is attractive and a cool guy, he isn't a forced harem protagonist with ''all the girls liking him'' all female characters besides amy and elise have someone they are more into than sonic.
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>>575134620
>Blaze is shown to be more infatuated over Sonic on-screen than Sonic himself is shown to be infatuated over fucking Amy.
Delusional
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>>575091052
Sonic's ONLY OFFICIAL CANON WIFE and MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN in the OP!
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>>575135283
>>575135548
>samefagging
Now go hug your mother and say sorry
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All the Knucklesfags getting upset Shadouge is canon lol
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>>575135537
In the original draft of that story Shadow wasn't evil and it wasn't an alternate timeline.
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>>575135651
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>>575135651
As an actual Archie fag I will say.
>archie
>canon
>in the actual archie end, sally and sonic broke up, but remained good friend at least.
No she never became a lesbian.
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>>575135591
in the idw comics she blushed in one page to sonic(its western so idc) in the japanese material literally percival is the only actual argument.
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>>575135883
She did
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>>575135719
Am I the only one who wishes Penders actually got to finish his version of this

Imagine the disaster of shipping discussions
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>>575135565
>flirted with knuckles in forces
I bet they also had a lovely dinner together in generations, right momthrower?
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>>575135187
The Jp Rush manual scan on Sonic Retro and archive.org is so poor quality

>>575135193
It's beautiful (just like the rest of him)
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>>575135187
Sonic and Tails' brotherhood is a symbolic thing. Their actual relationship is deeper. The Japanese versions are better because they usually portray them as partners
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>>575135651
>>575135883
It's a bait post to set off Sonamyfags and gamefags. Everyone knows Light Mobius wasn't canon, got genesis waved anyways, and King Sonic was born with the name Ogilvie
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>>575135687
Who's hiding fag? Your post was so bad, in need more post to shit on it.
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Gemerl is the most overhype character in sonic
eggman nega is cooler than him
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>>575136129
>I was right
Lol
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ENTER

THE BEST SHIP
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>>575136139
Gemerl literally has no canon abilities. IDW has to make them up. He's so shit.
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The official translation

>>575136060
Yep. Very noticeable in Frontiers specifically
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>>575132329
canon
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>>575133834
>shadow and rouge
Why shippers like to ignore knuckles.
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>>575135931
Scribble is the only person I will allow Shadally. The rest of you go fuck yourselves.
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>>575136308
I don't hate brothernic but Sonic and Tails aren't found family like in the movies. Sadly a lot of people don't understand this
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>>575134571
They are calling it 0/56

So it’s a 0 because the tittle has changed and it’s 56 because it continues where archie left off, i’ll be buying for blues and tempo
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>>575136060
Yeah it's like Maria and Shadow situation. They have an abstract bond which you can't specify

This happens actually with all characters in Sonic but westerns have to specify their dynamics in exact category
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>>575133749
this means tempo and Vesper woman will come back =D
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>>575136268
Kino!!!!!
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you fags need new material
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>>575133749
>>575133849
>>575134175
>>575134571
>>575136585
>>575136636
off-topic shit isn’t allowed here
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>>575136659
^-^
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Why are you all so mean about shipping
None of this will ever be canon. You don't need to bully each other over which will be the most canon. You're basically acting like Pokemon shippers.
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Better than acting like digimon shippers AM I ROGHT BOOYSZ
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>>575135372
she has parallels associations with knuckles but i am not sure if it's right to say she isn't intentionally paralleling amy when even amy's sa2 mock up pose is taken from beta rouge
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>>575137000
Yeah we could be talking about cute boys instead
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>>575136578
True

Though there is an instance where I prefer the English changes. "Friendship Pair" is really nice and accurate, but "Unbreakable Bond" feels much stronger. I learned yesterday that the Japanese version is different. Also the Japanese version calls Amy a little girl same as Cream, their team is literally called "female children pair"
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>>575137000
truke + checked
>my ship canon. japan the human said said so. i should win and you should kill yourself so i can laugh and feel good
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>>575136585
>>575136636
Dr lalinde, the the detective/cop team too,
Sadly this means the radical dude that hated robots is come back too, unless the sonic crossovers changed megaman reality too.
>>575136821
What do you mean? This place lives for being off topic 99% of the time, is also not off topic when that comic actually had a reaction with sonic.
>>575137000
Is more about shipping being irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but for some reason fans are obsessed with it, always trying to make it the main topic.
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Archie Megaman is returning
WE'RE SO FUCKING CLOSE ARCHIE BROS ANY DAY NOW
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>>575137276
If Sonic ever reciprocate to Amy it would be ooc and against the wind
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Does anyone know why Sega renamed Knuckles Tribe/Clan into Echidna Clan/tribe?
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>>575137287
>>575137315
off-topic shit isn’t allowed.
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>>575137267
Hmmm that's interesting. Though the "unbreakable bond" is still implied in Japanese

And yeah Amy is a kid character but at this point it's pretty much useless to talk about that without people getting pissy
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>>575136909
=)

>>575137208
What an amazing idea
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>>575137407
Probably to double down that there was only one
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>>575137315
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>>575137315
Udon guy did mention the idea so it's got SOME chance but it will never be original archie. nothing will be like original archie. and it's thanks to sega, the general direction of things in this world and some certain fat man...
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>>575135206
hmm i think silver being or seeming somewhat feminine comes from him being ''light sonic''(reverse as shadows dark sonic) so he's even more purhearted and idealistic than base sonic. shippers interpret it as him ''girlfriend'' rather than that though, esp since his more intense side is downplayed in en dubs
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>>575137315
Udon is a capcom sister company, how on earth capcom of all things making megaman content is helping archie sonic to come back? Specially knowing that comic died for very convoluted legal shenanigans?
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>>575136664
speak the truth brotha
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>>575137497
Yeah

>Though the "unbreakable bond" is still implied in Japanese
I know, but is there anything that uses that specific phrase directly in Japanese? I also like "best partner" which I think is Japan-only and maybe more recent
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Pedo spam time? Time for me to leave.
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>>575137507
Epic boys!
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>>575137568
>an all new reboot
Sega shillings idw, even making them a major thing now, make it highly unlikely.
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>>575137208
I, I, I love little boys they make me feel so good.
I love little boys they make me feel so bad.
When I’m around they make me feel like I’m the only guy in town.
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>>575137000
I just want my ship to be canon :'(
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>>575137267
can you post the japanese words? im curious, sometimes translations miss nuance
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>>575137568
Mentioning an idea, doesn't mean is plausible, special stuff with actual legal troubles.
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>>575137708
Hmm I'm not sure
>I also like "best partner" which I think is Japan-only and maybe more recent
Where was it used
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>>575137786
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Remember creampedos? Whatever happened to them?
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>>575135026
>Amy situationship with sonic has been like this since 2008.
Nah, she is openly flirting with him in Coloes DS and Generations as well as all the mobile slop games.
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>>575137370
He already reciprocates
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does someone have a link to Sonic Frontiers Chou Onsoku Playing Guide? maybe pdf or something
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>>575137315
Archie was cancelled in favor of a new continuity in IDW so it isn't happening
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>>575138112
>non-canon slop
Bestiebro…
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Help!
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>>575137315
If Archie sonic makes an actual comeback is gonna be reboot anyway, which to be honest makes a lot more sense than preboot, not only for the legal trouble, but reboot was way more converged to game lore and character design, still the actual chances are almost nonexistent.
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>>575134998
I dont think this is Ian being a Sallyfag. I think its more his Sallyfag audience holdingnhim at gunpoint since many of them regularly accused him of hating Sonally and breaking them up for his Lesbian ship and "pushing Sonamy" in late Archie early IDW.
Him trying to make her "move on" is him trying to appear like he is non-bias.
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>>575138112
can you erase idw and amerishit slop from the image thx
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>>575138112
bestie-san...
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>>575135027
>there was never and emotional bond because they HATE each other.
Bro sees them.lookong into eachother's eyes and holding their gaze and her turning around to smile at him and insists "nah there was nothing there".
https://youtu.be/WGTOD_dwuh4?t=50
Wild shit
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>>575138143
Riverdale
It was cancelled for Riverdale
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Fokkusu
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>>575137267
>>575137497
onna no ko is more like ''girl'' than little girl, it can be an 6 year old, a teen or sometimes even young adult in casual uses. if it was strictly ''little girl'' it would probably be more like komusume.

this reads like sontails cope
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>>575138383
canon
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>>575135027
>Shadow and Rouge were bonding from the very beginning.
How
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>>575138547
Fuck you too little bitch.
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>>575137878
Sonic & Tails is ゆうじょうペア
Tails & Knuckles is ペアけってい
Cream & Amy is おんあのこペア
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oGqkANJXaA 1:14

>>575137956
It's on the current Sonic Channel profile. First time I noticed it was the recent character introduction video, where they used the English spelling. Earlier I saw it in the Superstars manual as well
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Sonic is for human women
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>>575138168
>>575138383
Be quiet, Duo
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>>575138751
I am not duo.
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>>575138575
Onna
no
ko.
It's literally female child lol
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>>575116551
Sonic Team sees Amy's chasing Sonic as more important than her megadere fangirling over him. Its never going away.
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Tails the goat!
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Sonic shows more interest in Surge than Amy
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>>575138293
NTA, I might replace this part. What's the context? Seems like random fangirling Twitter posts? They aren't Sega people, are they?
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>>575116551
Interesting, the English version for Tails matches his pre-retcon canon personality, before he became Sonic's water boy. I guess that means the English version is more accurate to pre-retcon Amy too.
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SONURGE SEX
SHADALLY SEX
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>>575138905
of course he shows more interest in other people than his bestie.
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Friendship pear

>>575138864
Good
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Sonic and Tails are partners!
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>>575138225
No matter what flynn does, this fandom always blames him for biased things.
Few people here remember the whole reason sally stopped sucking as a character was the entirety of Flynn run trying to fix penders and bollers mess with her.
Even Fewer people remember how sega was actually looking at the comic to make things right since 150, and sega had a major weight in editorial choices, to avoid the mess that it was the dark ages, so flynn had to use a set of sega rules.
Amy fags make the same thing blaming flynn when the best sonic universe arcs archie made, had amy, blaze and silver as protagonist.
Hate is mostly biased shipperfags, while archie had it's own lore and worldbuilding, amy wasnt the archie love interest by the fact sally was already stablished is the main one (makes less sense knowing archie is just a separate alternate reality)
The only actual complaint is how he always abuses making very unorganic references, instead of making it more subtle.
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>>575138112
>not a single canon example
>and even with noncanon and fanon examples, it's still a much shorter list than the compilation of Sonic rejecting Amy
Curious... almost as if Sonamy is the most definitively OOC ship in the series...
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>>575138212
Reboot was not gamelore accurate. It was Ian's made up headcanpn fanfic idea of the game lore.

I would actually rather Pre-boot since it was more clearly its own thing. Ian trying to present Archie as more game accurate without guidelines was a mistake that messed up the discourse on the fandom.
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>>575139146
>sally stopped sucking as a characte
So be changed a character to pander to fans
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>>575138856
yes, girl is a female child, whereas woman is adult in english too, but casual use refers it up to teens and younger women. the japanese words kinda like that.

there's actual times amy is called a komusume or something explicityl more childish so im not coping i just think onna no ko or advance 3 team up is the best proof.
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c:
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>>575139274
What about the reboot was inaccurate?
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>>575139352
onna no ko otoko no ko the song, it refers to high schoolers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1aMot8i6I&list=RD4a1aMot8i6I&start_radio=1

>>575138856
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>>575138837
Duo is the only one who calls others bestie
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>>575139146
Sally was better before Ian turned her into a trophy wife
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>>575139274
Read my post first, I never said archie reboot was game accurate, I said it converged more with game lore while being it's own thing.
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>>575138856
Kanji arent "words". Theire Chinese characters made up of radicals that mean things seperately to create a new Kanji that represents an idea.

You cant just break it down that way and take it literally. For example the Kanji for Finish uses the radical for "barb" in it.
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>>575139180
You don't consider the games canon?
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>>575139573
that's not true. newfag. he didn't even make that collage. a sonougefag did
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>>575135537
Amy had nothing to do with Shadow's change of heart in Archie.
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>>575138864
LOOK HOW HAPPY SHE IS! WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT HER TO STOP!?
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>>575138367
Girl girl GIRL! Nice traditional GIRL! Built for foxboy <<<<3
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>>575139884
Archie and Sonic X are equally dogshit adaptations that don't understand the characters
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>>575139146
>No matter what flynn does, this fandom always blames him for biased things
He clearly doesn't like Sonamy and preferred Sonally.
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>>575139672
onna no ko is literally just girl as opposed to woman, whether its 5 or 17
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>>575139862
yeah, he also doesn't spam sonurge either
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>>575139967
Cute gf!
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>>575138985
No, the Japanese version matches the exact wording used in the Japanese Sonic 2 manual

>>575139352
>>575139491
I see. Regardless it applies to both Cream and Amy

>>575139672
I'm aware. "女の子" isn't a single Chinese character, it's a phrase. Onna means female or woman, and ko means child, with a possessive or connective grammar particle in the middle. Child of female gender
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>Changed Sally's character to make Sonally work
>Changed Amy's character to get rid of Sonamy
Don't you dare tell me Ian isn't biased
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Children
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>>575139146
Im the anon you are responding to. Im actually an Amyfag.
I think Ian has his own biases in regards to how he writes Amy that are seperate from shipping in general that bother me more. That said I think his attempt.to try and make her not chase Sonic is its own form of bias. Amy's chasing Sonic wasnt about shipping and him reducing it to that to appease shippers in his audience os just applying bias to appear non-bias.
With that said, I also think its naive to put it ALL on him. He clearly isnt alone in trying to push this.

But yeah, ive always been critical of how people tend to criticize him, not because I dont believe it is justified. I think most of it is. But because I believe the nuanced well thought out critique is easily looked over given the cult of personality around him.
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>>575140420
Cute kids
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>>575140301
i'm not saying it doesn't but saying it means ''little girl'' in the sense of elementary school student to make sontails look better is kinda misleading.
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>>575140336
Don't forget Fiona.
>Don't you dare tell me Ian isn't biased
No one did?
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>>575140504
Everyone knows it's not just Ian, but his defenders think if other parties are involved it somehow means Ian isn't responsible or guilty anymore.
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>>575140615
Yep
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>>575140157
yesyesyes
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>>575140618
Sonails already looks great on its own, I don't need to do anything in that regard
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Amy loves getting bred by Sonic!
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>>575140704
>Randomly makes KIng Shadow evil to secure Sonally in an alternate future
>Randomly makes Fiona evil to secure Sonally in the present/main universe
Dude is obsessed with shipping.
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>>575140336
>>575140716
Don't ever forget about how the lore team is also responsible for changing Amy just because Katie is a Shadamy yume and Chris Hernandez is an Ian Flynn sycophant
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>>575139446
Bro wants me to list every detail that was innacurate. No Rebootcuck, Archie wasn't this imperial uktimate everything together lore you convinced yourself it was.
Its a hyperdatabaseification slop mess warped by headcanon instead.
No, the Black Arms weren't starving, that wasn't there motivation.
No, Sonic wasnt hanging out with mighty and doing freedomfighter missions during Unleashed. He was having a grand tour with Chip.
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>>575140336
>Changed Amy's character to get rid of Sonamy
You don't need to change Amy to make Sonamy work, you need to change Sonic.
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>Sonic prime makes all three Amy variants evil
You don't think...
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>>575140957
It's Fox Season!
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>>575141062
>Dude is obsessed with shipping.
Ian really is one of us
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>>575139640
But it didn't. It lifted elements from the games and made up its own fanfiction. IDW is more what you are describing.
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>>575141074
Jerboa Sexo
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>>575140301
>I'm aware. "女の子" isn't a single Chinese character, it's a phrase
Its not a phrase. Its a word.

>>575140336
He is, but what I am saying is that he is acting in a bias way with the intention of proving he isn't bias.
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>>575141296
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>>575141062
Some disingenuous fuck tried to explain that Ian had to make King Shadow evil because Sonally was the main pairing

Even though Sonally literally wouldn't be in the main fucking comic for years and was immediately banned when it came back. Sega didn't want that shit either.
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>>575141125
I've heard this talking point time and time again but it's not true. Give it a rest
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>>575139215
Cnc!
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Fuck Ian Flynn and anyone else who tries to undermine Amy
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>>575140716
Yeah they are dumb. They also think showing examples of Amy acting like her 2000s self in IDW is an "own" to complainers when her acting like that is to appease complainers.
I thought she was supposed to have matured? Why arent these people complaining about her acting like her 2000s self in IDW? In fact, they praise it!

Its about maintaining narratives.
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>>575141610
What do you think Sonic X is?
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>>575141202
Why is she dressed like Amy?
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Damn, Amybesties don't play around
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>>575141365
You can consider it a word, but it is also formed by 3 words. The Japanese dictionary I typically use categorizes this type of word under "expressions (phrases)". Calling it is a phrase is correct. Japanese doesn't distinguish between words and phrases as neatly as western languages do as far as I can tell. Kind of crazy to see old Latin texts from before spaces were invented
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>>575140301
>I'm aware. "女の子" isn't a single Chinese character, it's a phrase. Onna means female or woman, and ko means child, with a possessive or connective grammar particle in the middle. Child of female gender
Yes, but in the context it is sayong "young woman" rather than "female child".
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>>575141903
It is referring to Cream as well
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I like how the shogakukan manga HAD a girlfox and did nothing to pair her with Tails
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>>575141903
The context is the name of pairing her with Cream
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>>575141702
What about it? Sonic agreed to go on a date in Sonic X and ditched Amy on it like a jerk
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>>575141847
Its kind of like saying "ventilation system" except structurally closer to "lawnmower"
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>>575142090
She was added before Tails. Tails only appeared on the manga later on. It's more so a funny coincidence
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>>575138406
>>575139215
>>575140360
>>575141074
>>575141629
Fuck off Woefag
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>>575142049
>>575142109
Yea, its like saying "young ladies" or "little missies". I don't see where the confusion is.
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I get it now. Onna no ko means old hag. Amy and Cream are elderly high school teachers
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>>575142090
>fox exists who is girl sk she HAS to fuck out literal child baby character
Tailscels....
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>anti-OCsperg final showed
Took you long enough. Remember policing this general is full time job, can't be slacking off now
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>>575142342
There's no confusion. We've been saying the game treats them both as young girls
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>>575142090
Patty=sister...
Zooey=COUSIN!
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Shadow and his pink wife and his aryan time traveller son
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>>575142530
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>>575142825
Hey there Sans
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What if Sonic wasn't gay?
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>>575142607
Don't forget Miles'..wait a minute...
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Anyway, those duo names are cool
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lmao blaze taking the opponent they made silver job at for sonic to beat

its gacha slop but still
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stop posting jess and blade, they make me feel funny
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>>575143078
Surge would kill Kit if she electrocuted his water though
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>>575143078
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>>575143052
Ppffffffftuh, B'WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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>>575143191
Nice!
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>>575143148
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>>575143238
ALL

TAILSES

ARE

BEAUTIFUL
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>>575143154
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Maybe I'll make a collection of all the Tails character profiles I can find
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>>575143385
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>>575143342
In the future you can 3d print homes for free
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>>575143331
Why is infinite standing next to infinite
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>>575143794
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Possibly Uekawa's best work
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>>575143794
Why does Amy have one of the high tier gems from re5?
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DON'T OPEN
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>>575143996
Tails' little arm <3
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>>575144103
not sure, maybe just simple aesthetics?
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>>575140504
Thanks to share your own opinion on things anon, i like archie but I can see too it's flaws regarding some topics. I'm mostly neutral in General.
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>>575144162
Yeahhh
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>>575144127
canon, obviously she reminds him of maria
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>>575144270
Yui Karasuno is pretty good too
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>>575144386
True
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>>575142090
We had a couple of fanart ages ago
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>>575143078
Shit name.
Ot should have just been Imposter Syndrome or Rain n Thunder
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Does anybody know where the SA2 staff got the inspiration for the preview for Last Story, with the overlapping voice lines and the transcriptions on the screen?
It reminds me of Kingdom Hearts, kind of chuuni, but I love it for that.
I just kind of assumed that there's some 90's movie I never watched that used that style, though I have the feeling I've seen some commercial or trailer somewhere that was similar too.
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>>575144594
>Rain n Thunder
That doesn't sound bad
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>>575140615
Actually crackship that I somehow like.
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>>575143542
>Ultrasonic speeds
Not a real thing. Ultrasonic describes a sound frequency, not a speed.
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>>575142324
Is that a fact? That's strange. Which issue was her first appearance? Wiki gave me nothing.
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>>575144926
I'm sure this dynamic is in some anime
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>>575144926
I honestly thought Sonic Adventure 2 was going to have them get together.
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>>575143794
>>575144103
>>575144217
Its kind of a fanart meme thing for Amy in general.
I think fans call it the "Rose Quartz"
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>>575143542
Where's Rouge, Silver and jet?
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>>575145301
Does anyone else remember a time when people treated sa2 as the end of the "true Sega vision"
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Am I mentally slow for never thinking that Surge and Kit might be references to Open Your Heart?
>Thunder, rain and lightning
>Danger, water rising
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>>575145552
I thought it was a reference to sonic and tails weaknesses, sonic fear of water while tails had a fear of thunder and lightning.
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>>575145552
...
BRA
VO
IAN
.
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>>575145694
Is Tails' fear of lightning a thing outside of the OVA?
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new game just dropped
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>>575145732
Do you really have more than 300 images of Surge stored?
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>>575145798
Yes bro, is an actual thing on game lore. Along his liking for minty things.
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>>575145470
I used to. Some still do
It's really not accurate though

>>575145798
Mentioned in his Jam profile
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>>575145470
Didn't Sonic Adventure 2 Battle already start development for GameCube before the Dreamcast version was out (almost as if it;was rushed for the anniversary)? And Sonic Advance? And Sonic Adventure 3 (unreleased)? And Sonic X?
lol
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>>575137000
No one beats pokemon shippers on that regard anon, all of them are the whole reason ash will die forever alone.
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>>575146043
Yes, but those things aren't immediately obvious, it has a strong ending, it's the last SEGA console game and doesn't have an immediate numbered follow up release, so that makes it easy to use for purist arguments about how the series would be better if it ended there or ignored everything that released after.
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>>575145470
The true end was when Naka left.
Sonic Rider was the last real Sonic game. Everything else was... Zombie Sonic.
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>>575145928
Are you a characterfag if you don't?
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>>575146627
>Somewhere i belong theme intensifies
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>>575146359
I'd say a few games that came after carried the spirit but otherwise, yeah.
Unleashed was the start of the post-Naka era.
Everything between it and his departure was the denoument.
Black Knight was the dying gasp
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>>575146627
>>575146731
This is the must teenage edgy 2000's pic I've ever seen, I love it.
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>>575146627
edgyslop
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>>575145798
Always has been
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>>575146359
Riders had the coolest clothes out of all the games and it's such a shame that they were never put into Crossworlds despite popular demand
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>>575144541
>>575145492
Cute
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>>575146970
Sorry, I posted the wrong pic. Here you go.
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>>575145552
People have been saying this since before they were officially released.
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>>575146918
This franchise only thrives on edgelordkino. and sonic media pre-2009 all had edge of various degrees
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>>575146627
Master chief and general grievous were considered edgy?
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>>575146372
>Thunder
That's not lightning tho.
Also, the Japanese word for thunder and lightning are the same. I think "thunder" makes more sense in context, because he gets jumpy around the sound and has no problem with electricity (his element in Heroes).
>>575146757
Unleashed had the benefit of being drawn heavily from Naka-era SA3 docs, and Black Knight's strength was that it was the last game with the main writer since Adventure 2 (also the ending felt like it was a message to fans that their chapter on the series was over).
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>>575146627
Why the fuck sackboy is there?
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>>575147337
>>575147337
>>575147337
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>>575147328
because he's awesome
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>>575147391
Well he is, but the theme pic is edgyness, and he's the actual opposite of that.
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>>575147480
Is it supposed to edgy? It just looks like cool 2000s stuff.
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>>575135651
>Sonic's ONLY OFFICIAL CANON WIFE and MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN in the OP!
You mean the au timeline that was nuked and even more thrown in the trash after Ken penders said Shadow was endgame (along with Sonic being cucked by many other men)
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>>575156563
sally was such a slut
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>Ken penders constantly cucks Sonic
>Ian Flynn constantly cucks Tails
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>>575156563
>>575156841
the cuck brothers
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>>575156841
>Ian Flynn constantly cucks Tails
Ian flynn writing for multiple sonic canons makes the Tails case even worse.



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