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==NEWS==
Nebulous: Fleet Command, Campaign Act 1 will be released on May 29th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4BOaaB9I1Q
Galactic Civilizations IV, Dev Journal: Empires: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1357210/view/696512943113634097
Newstower Roadmap: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1649950/view/512989355492508053
Foundation, Devlog #21 - Refining the Experience: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/690830/view/662735310818379393
Stellaris Dev Diary #413: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/281990/view/521993383330187248
Airships: Conquer the Skies, version 1.2.11 update: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/342560/view/519741583516501756
Laysara: Summit Kingdom released: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1823950/view/508480685901611544
C-Beams Devlog 52: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmKiMD2LxhU
Distant Worlds 2, DLC Announcement & Command Update: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1531540/view/715659582307827956
Falling Frontier Dev Update: Combat Overview: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1280190/view/542258317343326824
Frostpunk 2, Fractured Utopias dlc: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1601580/view/648085384362721315
News Tower, Setting the Record Straight update: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1649950/view/719036195725640223
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>>575197228
>I see you're getting ready for your gay pirate cosplay
...no?
But yeah, I'm a bit worried because from the way you phrase it, you can have five similar dragoon units that behave and fight differently.
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HAK HAK HAK
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Devman has added mechs in Machinfall.
Gotta keep play it but between Thea 2 and Grim Dawn I'm kinda busy atm.
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>>575198145
I'm sure you'll look fetching.

Don't forget while *looking* differently too, and you get to decide how. Not unlike how it was in the good old days. And there's doctrinal or sub army flavors too. I'm just starting to get into the game myself but so far it's quite nice just how much the roguelike or deckbuilding if you want to call it that part of it works with the theme. So we're clear, you can't strap a cannon on a horse and call it a dragoon but you can tailor them towards rapid flankers, anti cavalry or cycle chargers.
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>>575146743
for me its the one where the planet turns into a fountain of dark matter
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>>575199348
>And there's doctrinal or sub army flavors too
Yeah, I understand why Tabletop Tavern didn't appeal to you. Funnily, its simplicty is what attracted me to it: simple, fast battles.
What you propose is... utter insanity. But go ahead, detail me your army, unit by unit. I'll read it carefully, I got popcorn ready.
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>>575203391
You've overthinking it. And nothing especially fancy so far but I am working towards equipping all my first brigade with grenadiers that can entrench since the game is currently giving me shovels, cover benefits and a suspiciously large number of british muskets and tea rations. Round everything up with some skirmishers and hussars in brigade 2 an 3, anchored and wobbling around my brick. Jaegers bait, hussars charge in and mop up.
And I'm not looking to shit on tt. Just feel like I've seen everything it has to offer in the first two hours.
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Who is your favorite shroud patron?
Instrument and cradle are my personal favs, if I form a covenant it’s with one of them 95% of the time
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>>575206616
>And I'm not looking to shit on tt. Just feel like I've seen everything it has to offer in the first two hours.
I mean, that's the appeal. Easy to learn.
But I do feel like your game is more of a scavenger warlord simulator, where you have to make due with whatever you can scrounge.
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>>575198282
HYUK HYUK HYUK
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>>575211136
>scavenger warlord simulator, where you have to make due with whatever you can scrounge
Yes, that doesn't sound like tt at all.
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>>575218720
I mean, in TT, you are isolated and have to make do with what you are, but you make it sound like you're genuinely desperate for anything at all in your game.
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>>575219052
What I'm desperate is to get my hands on the fuck that keeps inserting veteran french field artillery into austrian infantry. Like to make vienna sausage from him if he likes them that much.
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>>575219443
...lol. Have fun lmao.
Also for the record? I don't bet on you. You're outnumbered and outgunned.

Also what's pic related? The three to the right are cannons, but I can't see what this is, I only see a wheel. Is it a howitzer or just a mortar?
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>>575219817
The barrel just pokes behind the guys shoulder there
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>>575219817
16 iron howitzer, which was a lot of fun. And my jaegers have shotguns so eat it spider. Thankfully they have another group around the corner.
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>>575221178
You want me to eat your shotgun? Sounds gay ngl.
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>>575221331
Come to think of it eating lead shot would be preferable to pickled herring.
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>>575221727
I'd have to be starving to eat fish.
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>>575221879
Tell that story to someone not seeing swedes and french stroking their barrels behind every other tree.
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>>575222293
What, hungry to get your lips on some French barrel?
Too bad for you, I have a boyfriend.
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>>575222580
Good for you. Tell him to keep the fuck away from Tornow since canister shot doesn't grow on trees and I'm not made out of ammo.
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>>575222580
you have a boyfriend!?
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>>575222580
Spider, your dildo is not your boyfriend. And your fleshlight is not your girlfriend either.
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>>575223881
>>575224087
Don't indulge him. He'll get excited and the flies will return.
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Do you have a favorite ascension path in stellaris?
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>>575230295
Cyber
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>thinking about resubbing to Stellaris
Talk me out of it.
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>>575240612
Why pay $10 for a month sub when you could pay $0 to acquire the DLC by other means
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>>575240701
I dont care to pirate and deal with possibly outdated mods and shit.
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>>575240787
>he doesn't know
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>>575245924
i know, cream shit bla bla bla.
I honestly dont care that much and id rather pay those pennies.
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>>575246146
Then play something else.

>>575223881
Kinda. It's "parasocial", I think it's called? Long-distance relationship.
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>>575240612
I do that once a a year personally, play for a month and then bin the game till next year again. Works pretty good, I burn off the urge to play in that one month almost always but get a good handful of games in during that time.

>>575246349
Parasocial is when the other guy doesn't know you. Like if you claim to be in a relationship with Beyonce or some Vtuber you are in a parasocial relationship. Long distance is when the other person also agrees that they are in a relationship with you but you are not physically in the same location.
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>>575246752
Yeah i do it too.
Sub, clock like 100hrs, get bored, drop it, rinse repeat..
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>>575246752
Ha, my bad then. I thought parasocial meant that people never met IRL. Then no, it's just long-distance then. It'd be fucked if it was parasocial.
Sorry, English is hard.
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>>575246862
Ye it works, I get the craving and then just play a bunch and then it's gone and I don't look back. I got enough other games I swap between that I don't want to stick around with just Stellaris all the time so usually one month from a year is just about the max I want to dedicate to it, typically in the winter I don't know if it has anything to do with being able to see the stars but I'm betting it's that.
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>spidey finally found someone to send nudes to
aww...
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>>575247387
>finally
?
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>>575247346
I wish there was some other space 4x that scales like Stellaris.
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Why is it that I love playing as hive minds but find gestalt machines boring?
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>>575253840
because killing robots isnt as cool as killing living beings
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>>575254480
I also like hives more than robots for this reason, there's something more real about organics.
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>>575254541
The only time I've enjoyed fighting robots was early stellaris with my friend and one of us researched the dangerous AI tech and plunged the world into a massive robot rebellion kek
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>>575254651
Robots are fine in a proper robot disaster imo, it's just more boring empire archetype.
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for some unfathomable reason, I bought a smirnoff ice
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Is it just me or are astral rifts a bit broken for nomads? Sometimes the options are autopicked or maybe picked by landed host AI empire. Still gives the rewards correctly though.
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>>575230295
Psionics used to be my favourite and probably still is with the new shit added. But I rarely get to that point before restarting nowadays. There's a lot more interesting stuff in general the diplomacy and espionage is so cool
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>"i'm tired of eugenism in palworld, i'll take a break"
>"repterra? looks silly but whatever, let's try"
>more breeding
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Aurora bros
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>>575269573
Is the update out yet?
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>>575273415
No.
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Alright gladius is pretty good. Managed to win my first try despite the guardsmen and invasion all attacking me at once. I killed like 20 aircraft along with 40+ infantry and 20 tanks. The brass scorpion carried me, once I got it to level 10 it just deleted every single ground unit. Honestly no clue how anyone could kill that unit because the warp mechanics can heal ~20 per turn as well.
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>>575216298
fuckin kek
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>>575281683
Are grenades good?
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>>575301143
Only as buttplugs.
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>>575301261
Too big for my butt.
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>>575269573
Always here
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>>575301143
I feel like grenades might be good for the vehicle ones where your infantry cant penetrate their armor, but the frag grenades seems worthless. Never unlocked melta charge but that one has to be great against the ultra big units.
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>>575301345
I'm sure we'll figure something out.
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>>575301651
I still very confused because I remember grenades being better than normal shooting. At least in early game.

>>575301807
"We"?
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>>575301651
Yeah.

>>575301994
Stop salivating.
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>>575301994
Well Chaos is a weird faction. They dont have shitty troops with grenades, they want to level up and gain boons. Their cheap melee infantry can genuinely kill elites if they get first attack, they're just squishy. No need for elites. And the warp claws can kill elites as well with a jump pack blind for defense.

If I were the guards I think that grenades might be fine with cheap infantry but chaos doesnt work that way.
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>>575302612
I hate Chaos.
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>>575302702
That just makes them stronger, probably
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>>575303726
They still aren't as bad as Warhammer Fantasy's beastmen, but they're still parasites on the face of reality.
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>>575303919
I played beastmen in that game too
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>>575304024
I hate Beastmen on a philosophical level. They're all about chaos, and are enraged by seeing "two stones stacked".
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>>575197978
I hope spiderfag didn't get caught in wildfires...
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>>575304362
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>>575305107
Is this loss?
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>>575305536
everything is if you really think about it
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good morning /civ4xg/
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>>575320948
gm faggot
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>>575320948
Wait, why is the black king that far in front?
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>>575320948
That white horse is fucked.
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>trying the nomad option in Stellaris by making a species of dom goth mommy xenophilies
This game can sometimes be fun..
Btw FUCK retarded modders that dont gender their portaits and mix females with males.
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>>575325202
>half of the UI is missing and game wont advnace
Or not i guess..
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>>575325202
Misread this as "plague of dom goth mommy pedophiles"
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>>575325805
Stellaris? Broken?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
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Sorry for half-assed bump, currently raging at that bloke. I tried asking /indie/ and even /vr/ for help but nobody could help, I had to fight him myself and abuse the range.
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>>575301807
>bri'ish 'umor
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>>575350001
>bloke
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>>575350668
Yeah? What about it?
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>>575350001
Unironically should've went black instead. The summons on him trivialize everything.
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>>575352576
Yeah, but the breath attack is just way too fun. Game could be fun if the controls weren't so atrocious, I had to revamp everything, and it still barely works.
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>>575352993
He also has breath attack, acid. The red only has volcano and meteor going for him (without the mana to spam it) but it's been ages so I might be misremembering it a bit.
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>>575353448
The red is meant to be the physical one, so he get an unique homing missile, but honestly, the range is bad and the damage is miserable, so I rarely use it.
>acid-breathing dragon
Yeah I'd panic too, that sounds like a bitch to fight.
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>in settings choose the scourge as the crisis because I wanted some hive mind vs hive mind action
>take defenders of the galaxy ambition
>do special project to summon scourge a little early and beat them
>the defenders of the galaxy situation wants me to summon a second crisis before I can “complete” the event chain
>doing the special project a second time doesn’t summon another crisis
>game is probably bugged and trying to summon scourge a second time because of the galaxy settings but won’t do it
>use cheats to start extra dimensional invaders
>beating them doesn’t count for the event chain
Oh stellaris I love you so much sometimes
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>>575360587
Fair and balanced for multiplayer
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if there's no overworld map for dow 4 the devs are retarded, it does so much for the single player experience
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>>575281683
how complex is gladius? i want to play it but i get filtered by civ
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nighty night
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>>575369627
Not really complex. Tiers are very different, so it's more about countering what the enemy fields.
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>>575369627
Do what the anon in that post did and pirate to see for yourself.
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>>575305536
Must be Dominions
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>>575384156
It's not Forester Bob though.
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>>575384783
But it's Ermor...
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>>575384986
Aren't Ermor ghost and undead? I'm a Tien C'hi main, I know the others little.
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>>575385127
notRomans that became undead.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A MARILITH
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>>575392045
what the fuck is dégâts
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>>575392320
The type and amount of damage dealt by the marilith whenever it attacks.
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>>575392320
French is a co-official language of /civ4xg/ so please study up
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>>575392514
What if the official sexual orientation of /civ4xg/?
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>>575392623
Straight
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>>575392679
And if you're not?
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>>575392829
Straight off to Spiderfag's dungeon while the rest of us play RTS together
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>>575392957
Who's Spiderfag?
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>>575393215
It all started back in France some time after the Revolution...
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>>575393215
One of your disjointed personalities. The gay one.
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gacha but its rts
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>>575396827
Isn't that just a MOBA? I ask this having never played a MOBA.
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>>575397456
MOBAs are more games you control a single unit
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so when is that game of thrones rts going to release again?
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>>575405935
A dedicated GoT RTS sounds like a waste of money desu since it's such a generic fantasy world from a battle perspective and doesn't have the unit and faction autism that Warhammer or LotR have. It'd be much better as a mod for another game
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>>575403505
>life insurance policy on his dog
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>>575407295
I thought it was a mod at first.
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is songs of syx a civ4xg? How do I play this shit. It kinda looks like rimworld which I also could not figure out
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>>575423328
Yes.
With your mouse.
Ha, it's... a bit complicated to explain. You make rooms, then you assign a specific goal to said rooms. If it makes sense.
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>>575415664
There are Total War and Crusader Kings 2 (3 too?) mods for GoT, maybe for some other games, not sure.
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>>575431330
Neither of these are /civ4xg/ clay though famalam tbph
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>>575431386
I know, but I'm just saying.
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>>575432402
I know you know.
But I love mansplaining.
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>>575431330
Oh, right, Mount and Blade also has a mod for it.
Beyond that, not sure.
>>575432849
yeah
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Goddamn, even the terrain generation favors the britbongs.
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There is something funny where the unquestionably best "cavalry" you have in your roster is a man in a skirt. I miss my deathheads.
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Spider, you ok? I hear you guys got fire tornadoes now.
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>>575341082
Actually game runs fine, turns out with all the mods i have i need to fully restart the game if i want to start new run
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Tried Stellaris 4.4.6 with some mods (Planetary Diversity, Shrouded Regions) and it seems pretty stable with 19 AI civs and 1000 stars. Guess ES2 quantities of spaceships are gonna be the norm now.
Vanilla UI has the situations organized within dropdowns, finally.
Also commodore AI seems much weaker than 4.2's.
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>>575325805
I've noticed this with the curator locating leviathans for you. It's stuck at the first three purchases and doesn't add any more after. If the Defender of the Galaxy one bugs for me too then im dropping version after giving khan nomads a whirl
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>>575451914
Something is wrong with the AI and I can't pinpoint exactly what.
When observing, their planets and fleets seem fine enough, without any glaring mistakes or outright bugs, but overall Admiral AI somehow lags behind a player that merely avoids death spirals and resource waste on a suboptimal roleplay build.
Maybe they are stuck in decision paralisys, or maybe they overuse trade and end up deleting significant part of their income, idk.
Or maybe everyone constantly being in multiple wars takes too big toll on their economy while player knows to just turtle at chokepoints without pointless ship losses. Though I've noticed AI turtling more often than before too.
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So Stellaris nomad gameplay is basically the same just with the moveable "planets" ??
I cant seem to envision any other way to play this in a game all about taking over systems and shit..
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>good units don't have t3+
>actual french units only start being good t3+
>kraut auxilia are beyond awful
Alright, wish me luck. At least they're somewhat better than russians.
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>>575460538
As usual, French are based beyond belief.
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>>575465450
Their heavy cavalry is pretty good honestly. I'd just wish their infantry wasn't all about irish or swiss.
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>>575466094
What's wrong with Irish?
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>>575466375
They're not scots. Those have all-round better stats and one more tier, and that shit matters. When you "prestige" them they're like armored swiss pikes from medieval 1. Can counter charge cav and keep on plowing thru them to the next unit while breaking both and not slowing down.
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>>575467102
You phrase that very weirdly, but I think I get what you mean. That the Irish are NOT like these armored swiss pikes from that game I never played.
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>>575467684
You really should give m1 a try then since seeing those in action is an experience.

They just don't have an upgrade path to keep them relevant past chapter 1-2 and will get mowed down by troops that have. It's like building with common or rare troops in tt and then you face a purple stack with 5 signature units. You go from dominating first and second area to getting your teeth kicked in the third. Clear enough?
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>>575468779
Can't. Too busy raging at these little shits.
>barge in
>heal all enemies in range
>cast fast, homing missile with extreme range that outrange everything I got and locks in on me
>when it hits me, takes away 95% of my speed
>also fast as fuck, able to outrun even my flames
>take cover behind trees so can't carpet bomb
So annoying.
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THESE FUCKERS

>>575468779
>They just don't have an upgrade path to keep them relevant past chapter 1-2 and will get mowed down by troops that have. It's like building with common or rare troops in tt and then you face a purple stack with 5 signature units. You go from dominating first and second area to getting your teeth kicked in the third. Clear enough?
Sounds like my experience in Tabletop Tavern.
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>>575471546
You get to summon those as black dragon iirc.
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>>575472636
How are you meant to kill them without abusing the Red Dragon's homing missile? and fuck me, these cunts are fast enough to dodge even these.
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>>575472796
I played that last in 2002 and mainly as black and blue so sorry but can't help you there. I think the red one has those fire spirit summons that are pretty fast themselves.
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>>575473429
That's going to be a lot later in the game, I fear. I think I'm level 15.
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>the baguette run wasn't meant to be
Ah well, ainsi va la vie. Guess it's time to have fun again.
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>>575478487
>death's head
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>>575480052
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>>575480536
Häns Grüber, are ve ze baddies?
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>>575483464
>bri'ish 'umor
Meh. They used to be funnier.
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>>575485071
>everything was better before
Okay longbeard.
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>>575485071
It always amused me how turned out it was Rene actor who was a faggot and Gruber was straight..
I like Gruber in Babylon5, had a small episodic role.
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>>575485579
Should really rewatch that sometimes.
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>>575478487
Sad!
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>>575478487
Is that the Armchair Historian game? Is it worth it?
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>>575500378
Master of Command. Do you enjoy the idea of tw battles vaguely set in the 7 years war setting, with ai that's not amazing but (usually) not braindead either? There's an overland map with a time limit until you have to beat the boss army of the act of which there are several depending on the picked difficulty. The battles are fought with regiments organized into up to 5 brigades you outfit and customize yourself with rogue-lite perks or "doctrines", officers which have their own skills and gear you find, loot, buy or capture. Meta progression is you unlock a new subfaction (for example hessians for british or freikorps for prussians who have their different quirks and units) and no "you start with extra cash" or "now your troops get +x to stat" that I've seen so far.
Was worth a pirate for me. Very easy to pickup if you're familiar with how TW plays and there's just enough wiggleroom between factions and how you organize your troops with what you got to keep it interesting, so far.
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>>575505140
Fuck is the Seven War settings? Sharpe's Rifles?
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>>575505287
This is about 40 years earlier.
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>>575453986
>really like nomads
>their ships make winning wars even easier than before because you dont have attrition with your big capital ship
aieeeeeeee
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Is Endless Legend 2 good yet?
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>>575516598
Probably at the very least better than Civ 7, not that that's a high bar.
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zephon

>>575281683
good job anon. i know jack shit about chaos

>>575301143
yes gernades are good in gladius and zephon. If you have frag gernades ( or plasmas I play eldar) and the enemy does not you will win infantry vs infantry. They are also pivotal for creeping which is deadly in both games but can be especially annoying in gladius due to less enemy diversity. Its a shit load of kroot hounds at all times and hounds are fast and have infiltrate ( ignore overwatch attacks) so if they escape they will jump scare you later in the game.

>>575369627
Gladius is a good entry level game for this genre. Races are very unique and while trying to accomplish their gimmick you will learn how systems and subsystems work. Once you get comfortable with Gladius you can graduate to Zephon which has more features from a main line civ game - like road building and diplomacy. The quest/ending scenario system are significantly improved in zephon as well - most people turn quests off in gladius
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I tried civ 5 for the first time and wtf is this shit? > 2-3 NPCs declare war on me around the same time
> I put all my money and production into military so I can fight back
> I take a few strategic cities
> Entire world calls me a warmonger and evil and denounce me
> My own population is now unhappy and reduces production
Or when I have to pay double and triple what the other NPC is offering to get a deal, even tho this NPC is friendly

Which fucking retard programmed this shit? You get punished for everything.
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>>575529753
yeah
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>>575529753
sounds about right
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>>575529753
civ is for retards now unfortunately
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>>575527560
Idk man all these zephon factions look way worse than 40k. I can't enjoy a game if the factions aren't cool.
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>>575538956
while different units are certainly less numerous, in part because zephon isn't funded my james workshop and doesn't need to help sell plastic, the units themselves are better imo
also you can 'cross-tree' and build eldrich dudes and robot dudes while playing a human faction, and the same for the other two factions which is more interesting than the fixed pool of the gladius factions imo
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>>575538956
What, you don't like a generic clusterfuck as a setting? Rude.
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>>575538956
zephon is not so much about factions as it is about leaders. And yeah they are understated compared to gladius factions, they do a bit less. The upside of this is that when you are creeping the map you randomly get alot of units. You can be playing the zerg/nid type faction ( I hate that psykers are all hideous in this game) and end up with a hover bus , or capture a raider outpost and use the raiders to hack Furoisa's battle buses

also at tier 8/tier 9 humans get to build tactical marines and assault marines.
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>>575529753
Do you prefer CIV4 deathballing?
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>>575529753
5 is a tall game because retarded global happiness and warmonger diplo penalties
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>>575529753
>somehow I'M the bad guy
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>>575529753
you are probably trying to buy their last copy of something in which case they dont want to sell it
>a few startegic cities
what you did is actually the correct way to game the system by waiting for the ai to declare war on you so you can take the cities without big warmonger penalties so i doubt that is what happened
the ai should trade luxuries 1 to 1 if you are friendly with them and are asking for somerthing they have more than 1 of
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>>575529753
>> Entire world calls me a warmonger and evil and denounce me
This is a common complaint about civ5 in particular and it's just the way the game works. If you take cities then people will hate you, this is not antisemitic. Now you can either accept that as the thing that it is and deal with the hate by more military or simply restrain yourself from taking too much even if you yourself feel like it's "fair". Now speaking purely out of mechanics taking cities is often just not all that good of an idea in civ5, and you probably shouldn't take all that many unless you are willing to commit to that playstyle. You actually want to stay fairly limited in amount of cities you control for the exact reason you found out (unhappines gives sweeping penalties and stacks quickly with extra cities and pops) among other things. A good idea is to pack the map with more civs than you think especially if you like to actually war a bit, that way you can get more cities by conquest and less trough founding them yourself and still stay below what you might consider excess city count.

>You get punished for everything.
You can pretty clearly see why they made it like that if you play civ4, they wanted a more "challenging/realistic/gritty" how ever you want to word it experience since civ4 was what you may consider very "everything in excess" type of game. Some consider it the best in the series for that others don't like it all that much because of it.
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>>575529753
>You get punished for everything.
Oh no, don't spank me for playing the game, civ5-chan~
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>>575527560
Your best units are vehicles and demon walkers unless you stack blessings on marked infantry then they're pretty scary. Very weak on and against air but can develop new cities and boom like crazy with city rituals. Strong heroes.

>gernades are good in gladius
The haywire ones are since they ignore armor and can attack air. Ork ones are also alright since they have double the attacks compared to regular ones and can pen some armor so you're getting better kracks that have blast earlier. The rest are waste of research 9 times out of 10.
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New faction look lite.
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>>575555515
I don't play chaos. i pretty much only play eldar. I am very fond of my plasma gernades. i think the best strat is to spam gaurdians, rush autarch level 6. Its risky but if u have a bad early game all your gates get destroyed anyway. Playing with mechs is really fun - the scorpian superheavy tank is one of my favorite units in tabletop 40k and I'm shocked and pleased it is in this game- but i can usually end the whole map just by buying the avatar. Items are incredibly powerful in Gladius - less so in zephon when they need to be researched - though this discourages stacking the same items every time and you get way more from loot

both games have the same problem of units needing to be researched so the tech tree incentives you to spam one kind of unit. Warcraft 3 got this right where you would unlock a new building and it would offer you a choice of 2-3 units to build at said building before research. This problem is still huge in gladius though it is slightly less huge due to a smaller tech tree.

counterplay exists but implimenting it is costly and nigh unrealistic.

apparently the most recent zephon patch made it so that a building can complete multiple items in one turn if you have enough cogs. Pretty massive change - too bad it does not apply to research.
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>>575560150
Looks like my Soulmask's bonefire shed.

>>575560603
>i pretty much only play eldar
Show bulge.
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>>575561151
9 inches of Sicilian cockmeat
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>>575561151
And looks like what I tried to build in Enshrouded.
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>>575560603
Not a massive fan of eldar in this. I want my dire avengers, swooping hawks and striking scorpions goddamn it. If I want mecha action I'll play the designated orange weeaboo faction. Cumragfags are interesting but I almost always get too ambitious with them and end up beaten like a dog. But really fun when you open up a raiding webway behind him and delete half his cities before he realizes what's up tho.

>plasma nades
Sure, but those have both blast and base armor pen 2. And even then... vaul's wraiths is only tier 2 and it's not like shuriken cats don't straight up delete most soft blobs either.
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>>575564779
i want shining spears to not suck. its been awhile IIRC you get a max squad size of 3 in this game? I'm used to fielding huge blobs of 10 of them

i found success with howling banshees and gladius , after kill team 1 has converted me to being an autarch appreciator

i fucking love warlocks in gladius now that is a juicy unit

now if only they will let me commit warcrimes against the action economy with soulburst like bighammer used to. Gladius still respects soulburst more than games workshop does.
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>>575565470
>3
To be fair they are better sentinels in this.
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>hmm maybe I should try gladius
>all the factions I'm interested in are DLC
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>>575571680
Welcome to Games Workshop licensed games. I'm dead sure all Warhammer games are like this.
>Mark of Chaos
>Dwarfs are mercs only with half an army, vampire counts aren't playable
>man o war corsair
>despite the game being half finished and very janky, there's still a DLC for it
>Total Warhammer
>...lol
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>>575571680
You'd be silly not to pirate. They have dlc factions with multiple supplemental dlcs by this point.
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>>575571680
Recreate the 40k universe in Aurora the way Steve intended
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>>575578916
No, 40k sucks ass.
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Gotta give it to the french - they know how to fuck (up) horses with the best of them.
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>>575584453
>Gotta give it to the french - they know how to fuck
If only, hahahahaha...
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>>575584853
they definitely do, but losers like us exist everywhere
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>>575584853
Do you even own a chevaux de frise?
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>>575586324
What the fuck would I do with a cheval de frise? No, I never did, and I'll never do, unless I get Isekai'd to a world that never progressed beyond pike & shoot era.
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>>575586516
See, that's your problem there. And not a cheval. Chevaux. Plural. Bitches love fortifications.
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>>575587526
Closest thing I did was building barricades in ARK. Does that count?
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>>575587680
Clearly not. I'm telling you man, you need to entrench your shit. Look at this goofy motherfucker. Guy had more chins than his line had tourelles, but, happily married with kids.
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Thanks nuffle. I really need to roll industrious 8 out of 11 times when rolling my cavalryguy.
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>>575589589
Man that doesn't look good for cavalry at all.
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>>575589756
Too late to pivot into dragoons unfortunately.
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is this series good?
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>>three shots a minute
Eat your heart out, Sean Bean. ...now if only their accuracy was actually good.
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>>575586516
Would burn down in wildfires anyway...
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>>575593792
You try being accurate firing a musket every 20 seconds.
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>>575571680
all the DLC is included in the fitgirl repack, same with zephon

the devs anayalze your data even if you pirate the game to balance the game. We've had two balance patches in zephon since the last DLC dropped and its not just to address meta/glitches they are still tinkering with shit. An example of a recent change was immoblized flying units can be melee'd

one of the things that really impressed me when i first played gladius was how much of my tabletop knowledge transfered over - the math is really god damn similar minus the dice. made it the easiest 4x i ever picked up despite not building my cities right for the first few games
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>>575599730
11.1 seconds. Fair.
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>>575599730
I would simply invent the rifle
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>>575608112
They had those already...
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>>575610438
Then I would use a rifle instead of a musket
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>>575610630
Rifles were also muzzle-loading.
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>>575611959
Howitzers were bear-loading.
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>>575612407
Wojtek bros we won
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>>575612983
One of their groups even starts with it.
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>>575571680
I pirated it, was fun for like 1 playthrough if I play it more maybe ill buy it
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>>575197978
>buy civ 7 complete bundle after delaying a year and a half from touching it
>new game
>look through leader list
>exit out the game
>uninstall
>refund the bundle
Jesus Christ, I knew it was bad but not this bad. Can't image what the rest of the game is like but this was enough to filter me
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>>575626098
I just can't pull the trigger on this game. The bundle was 60% off and was still close to $100 ausbucks
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>>575626098
what's wrong? woke designs?
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>>575628409
That's part of it, but really the bigger issue is that the majority of them are not actually leaders at all. The list is very limited, even with all the expansions and when Ada Lovelace and Harriet Tubman take up the limited slot, it kills any immersion for this game.
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>>575632584
One real life person who leads a changing civilization is hard to suspend disbelief, unironically I think Humankind did it better with the custom fictional leader, plus you don't have to deal with shit like muh stronk black women of history since the player can make whoever they want. The best option would have been custom leader and custom civilization so you don't have to deal with shit like Romans turning into Chinese turning into Mexicans and instead get some bonuses from the environment and past experiences and others from player choice like aesthetics, but that kind of procedural generation is harder to sell than "Turn the Romans into the Franks into the French! Just like in history!"
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>>575644246
Can't bump, busy watching world of darkness.
I hope Bilgewell get ran over by an entire battalion of hooligans.
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Found Armor Clash 3.
Oddly enough, it's not early access. It feels like it though.
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>>575636164
>I think Humankind did it better
Basically sums up the entirity of Civ VII. It's insane how a smaller dev tram caused Firaxis to knee jerk so hard and copy their game, but somehow fuck it all up despite seeing all the negative feedback Amplitude got for the ways they failed. It's like a straight-A student suddenly deciding to cheat off the kid next to them just because they scored pretty well on previous exam, but filling in all the bubbles one line off. Utterly baffling.
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>>575584853
Spider, did you blow it with your prospective e-boyfriend ALREADY?
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>>575661075
Mmm?
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so funny
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good morning bump
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penis
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I think we should sacrifice spiderfag to revive the RTS genre
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>>575687451
My sacrifice would be worthless. You need to sacrifice something that has value.
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>>575687550
But you're valuable to me :(
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>>575687550
To be fair even you have far more value than the average stellaris poster.
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>>575688524
At least Stellaris posters keep the thread up constantly. I only do it in burst when I discover or rediscover a RTS I like.
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>>575688753
>they provide a valuable service
As do garbageman and roadkill removal crews.

That Act of War? Christ, I haven't played or even saw that mentioned in a lifetime.
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>>575689352
Tried Act of War High Treason a while ago, won a couple of easy games against the AI, but I can't seem to be able to take screens of it, so can't start any discussion.
Which is a shame, because it's one of these games that's really weird. Got a lot of unique mechanisms I never saw anywhere else, like how you heal and repair your units, or how mortars operate.
I kinda wish I didn't suck so much at COmpany of Heroes, that one is a sore spot.
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>>575690632
>coh
Which one? 1 and 2/3 are very different.
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>>575691570
The one with Americans and Germans, and Americans have good doctrines: infantry, armored corps, and paracorps, but only paras were competitive, while the German only had one competitive doctrine, the blitzkrieg one.
Not sure which one, honestly. I'm vaguely aware the expansion added the Br*tish, who had trenches and officers, and another flavour of Germans, because fuck having the Italians be relevant.



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