Previous Thread: >>575421678>Guides, Resources and useful links:https://rentry.org/bagguides>/bag/Circles/Clubs/Friends:https://rentry.org/holdingthebag>4koma, Manga, Side Content, PVs & Shortshttps://rentry.org/bacontent>>(JP) – JST>Banners:>7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59Makoto (Swimsuit – Limited)Satsuki (Swimsuit – Limited)Chiaki (Swimsuit – Welfare)>News:5.5th Anniversary Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/live/tQ4z_gAngHc – 7/26 15:00Patch notes: https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/673>Events:Balancing Schale's Books with the General Student Council – 7/22 11:00 – 7/29 10:59Set Sail! Pandemonium Society's Ship: Chairman Makoto's Splendid Summer Vacation – 7/29 After Maint – 8/12 10:59100-Free Recruitment Campaign – 7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59>Content:Total Assault: Hieronymus (Urban) – 8/5 11:00 – 8/12 3:59Limit Break Assault: The Fury of Set (Field – w/Light Armor) – 7/30 11:00 – 8/26 3:592x Normal – 7/22 4:00 – 7/29 3:593x Bounty/Scrimmage – 7/29 4:00 – 8/5 3:592x Account EXP – 8/1 4:00 – 8/3 3:593x Normal – 8/5 4:00 – 8/9 3:593x Commissions – 8/5 4:00 – 8/12 3:592x Account EXP – 8/8 4:00 – 8/10 3:593x Hard – 8/9 4:00 – 8/12 3:59>>(GLOBAL) – UTC>Banners:>7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59RenaKonokaHare (Camp)Kotama (Camp)Maki (Camp)Misaki>News:Patch notes: https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=3501827>Events:Kivotos' Unsolved Mystery: In Search of Tsuchinoko, the Unknown Creature – 7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59Arona's Dice Game Event! – 6/23 After Maint – 8/18 1:59My Office: https://bluearchive.nexon.com/user/myoffice>Content:Total Assault: Goz (Field) – 7/28 2:00 – 8/3 18:59Limit Break Assault: Tiphareth (Indoor – w/Elastic Armor) – 7/22 2:00 – 8/17 18:592x Bounty – 7/20 19:00 – 7/27 18:592x Normal – 7/27 19:00 – 8/3 18:59
>>575428085>Win the 50/50 for girls you don't really want>Wasted 100 rolls>Try and "build pity" for banners you like>Accidentally get the rate up>Waste rolls>Have to pray for the 50/50 on the girl you really want>Don't win>SwipeDon't do shit like this. The system is designed to encourage you to impulse roll and gamble on 50/50s. It's designed to make you swipe MORE not less, despite being mathematically better. Continue to roll as if you need 200. Continue to plan. Only then will you benefit.
nothing hotter than fucking my studentwife in her ass
BA has to live so i can keep doomposting
The real reason for acceleration is so they can properly milk everyone before pulling the plug. Think about it.
>>575429272I liked BFV near the end of it’s lifecycle, shame about all those TTK changes and the fact we never got a Stalingrad/Normandy map.
GOD BLESS THE NEW GACHA SYSTEM UNIROCANICALLY BETTER
Ugh...
How long until BlueFes? I think I need to remake my plans.
>>575429547nothing gay about getting fucked by a woman in the ass
>>575429731>Win the 50/50 for girls you don't really wantWhy are you rolling if you don't want the girl?
>I will never roll for Suou under the old systemPain...
The 50/50 will play a special Arona animation of her laughing at you if you fail
>>5754277934-banner, 400-pull budget
>>575429731>Continue to roll as if you need 200. Continue to plan. Only then will you benefit.That's not longer recommended because missing the 50/50 is gonna sting like a motherfucker when you can't spark if you get the PU at roll 170
>>575429634made for punishing rape.
medium premium eh
>>575429834You will never roll Suou period
What about archive points, do they get removed too? Should I redeem now?
>>575429801Iwo Jima Breakthrough was kino but the massive nerfs when the Pacific maps came was such bullshit
>>575429634Nice shuro op, shes growing on me. also that webm has spoileRS.
>>575429760nothing gay about getting fucked by a woman in the pussy
>>575429791>before pulling the plugWhy would they do that?
> new worst ever gacha changes introduced on the same banner as double hags in swimsuitsAnd this is why you NEVER trust the Hagenda, only double cunny BlueFES can save us now
slow down
One of you is going to be the first person in /bag/ to lose the coinflip and get Miyako
Finally beat my first floor 74 limit break bossNot having Rio is really rough
>>575429892As someone else said, none of you fags' simulations count with the fact that spark is free 201st roll, not 200th. You can get the targeted character with 200th roll and still redeem the other character.
>>575429896What the fuck is a PU?
I think this is the first time I don't want either of the free 100 students.
>>575429898Miyo owes me kidnapping, drugging and raping while listening to her asmr in the dungeon
>>575429982Parallel Universe from Super Mario 64
Post your favourite NPC student that you’re going to hate rolling for with the new system
>>575429929Shuro volumeShuro Archive
>>575429982Personal unionPICKUP what else do you think dumbass
>>575429896What's your alternative? Because budgeting on the 50/50 and not getting the student you want at all is going to sting a lot more than that.>>575429823I don't know, ask the guy I quote why he suggests dropping 100 on a banner you don't really want for the chance of the 50/50
>>575429791the EA special
We got her boys
>>575429953I already have Miyako, first rabbit I got.Only Saki refuses to come home.
>>575429982Peroro Ultimate
>>575430007I don't want any of the 4, much less with the turbo kike gacha.
>>575430024I have literally never seen it used before That's why I asked, RETARD
>>575429934> >>575430038
These are your choices after dropping BA>endfield with what the fuck the gacha system is>arknights, endless pairing of female characters and male characters, depending on the official devs' moods>nikke, aight I guess, surprisingly, another gook game, but can be demanding (pvp), and there are yuri allegations>azur lane, no gameplay and story besides coom>fgo, game for cucks>BD2, like azur lane>wuwa/nte open world slop>R1999, game for women>limbus, characters are ugly as sin>hoyo games, lmao, a lesson on why gatekeeping should exist when you pick up these games.>or just play regular AAA titlesLeave the gacha space before gacha leaves you.
>>575430007You're not alone. Makoto is greatly disliked by the overall fandom and Satsuki is too much of a literal who
>>575429982polyurethane
Yah nah to hell with this cuh. Im not rolling anymore cuh. Only fes and really meta characters.
>>575430076I only have a Yuuka Nendoroid and cumming on her would feel wrong.
has anynyan posted the new asmr's yet
>>575430085I've never touched an EA game.
>>575429892guess newfags get the shaft on their quadruple fes
>>575429972I said that and that's exactly why I slopped up proper sim that accounts for exchange/charge mechanical differences
>>575430095>hoyo games, lmao, a lesson on why gatekeeping should exist when you pick up these games.tbf, what they did to themselves were absolutely, 100%, their own fault.
Shiroko needs to stop sexually harassing me
WHO IS THIS BEAST
>>575430080There's no way, people use it all the time since it's specifically called pickup in BA, it's not even a term from another gayme
>nexon doesn't give a fuck and follows through with changes>they actually introduce it on global next week when code box dropsThoughts?
Something about BA's soul was lost when they killed off the decacunnies.
>>575430170The strongest
>>575430014>Kuzunoha released after this dogshit change
I guess this is it... the end of the line...
>>575430170Fearsome beast!
>>575430196They'd probably do it for FOX
the game already has a 50/50, you either spark or don’t oh wait it’s actually 75/25 and now we’re getting something worse >>575430116Limiteds only, no sparks, final destination
>>575430080But it's used in the game?
>>575430095Didn't read Suck a lemon
>>575429982Power UnitIt's what they call the engine + battery systems in the modern F1 car
>>575430171On /bag/? Literally never seen it unironically
Surely they will backtrack right?
Since we're copying homoversw 50/50 mechanics, can we also copy their rebate systems so we can get mats to buy more pulls off none rate up units and 2 stars?
>>575430095You could also play vintage story with me.
>>575430095i've tried most of them and quit most of them
>>575430241Not the PU acronym
Lunatic clearer here so someone who is actually good at the game. I like the new system better because I only ever roll if I have 24000 saved up.
>>575430014would be a fitting way for her to be implemented I guess but MAN
>>575430197You said this when Vol F ended
>>575430225>don't like it don't buy itWhy are people pretending this is a controversial statement?
>>575430256they're holding until they see numbers from FES
>>575430256>Globalcucks review bombingLol no.
>surely I can get everyone to quit if I post another Twitter shitposter political activist type
>>575430286>My opinion matters because I whaled harder than everyone else
>>575430170Help...
>>575430303Because you’re ignoring the context you stupid fucker
>>575430095>hoyo gamesyou people talk shit but hoyo has never rugpulled anyone with a mid lifecycle worse rate change lmao. nor do they have any investors they have to please but themselves. but anyway i doubt you've actually played any of the games on that list.
I don't care you mathfags. I don't want the new gacha system for the sole reason that it's genshin crap. That game has ruined the gacha market and plagued it with their stupid 50/50 garbage and I don't want it in BA.
>>575430303Hello Patrick
Lets get one thing straight other game shills, I Doom this game not because i hate it fully but because i love it. Dont get it mixed up i want this game to live. If it dies by its own hand then so be it. But i still wont be playing your dog shit chink garbage gacha that share no similar qualities BA has. KYS and go back to your general
>>575430303the issue, I assume, would be because players of a series with 5 entries have enjoyed the series and want it to be...good...instead of...bad.
i believ in happy ending
>>575430250https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/%22PU%22/like 20 times just yesterday. It's probably called something else on global just like everything else.
>>575430170kino. fasten your safety belt.
>>575430258we are getting a rebate system but we don't know what it's going to give out yet.
>>575430095I still find it funny that the supposed worst change that is about to happen to Blue Archive is the standard for other gachas. Why would anyone jumpship to some of the titles you listed that uses similar pity mechanics with other worse bullshit like weapon banners?
>>575430095I'd just go back to AL, I only quit because there were too many hags. Maybe try GFL2, it wasn't that bad when I played at launch, and I think they fixed some of my complaints. I played Nikke for a long time too but I don't think I can go back to that, Nikke just makes me sad.
>>575430303>make awful changes>people complain about it>(quote)i wonder why
>>575430170
>>575430330>3* CHare>UE30 IMari>4* IMine>4* NYFuuka>hurr durr whaleNo I'm F2P. I'm just better than everyone else because I need less investment to clear the same content.
>>575430286Who cares? Enjoy paypigging, because I won't be spending more
>>575430303It isn't. The modern social media commentator is extremely entitled. They want the world to bend to their opinion, even if they have no stake in it. They are literal tourists in every sense of the word.
>>575430369>anon picked it up from Japanese twitter just barely yesterdayNo wonder, I don't use twitter to read messages
>>575430225>he has western accounts in his timelinerumao
>>575430303Nobody says that unless not liking it is the objectively correct stance.
>>575430286>UE40 jk Neru>4* c.HareLmao you are a fake whale.
>>575430303because hes raping something that he didnt create
>>575430095All gacha games, you retards never play any games besides gacha huh. My backlog is quite large. It's time to finish iceborne, rise, sakuna rice, vesperia, rimworld (infinite fun), darkest dungeon, monster train, grace f, dragon quest 3, 5 and 8, xenoblade 2 switch 2 version, and many more too count.
>>575430392>Maybe try GFL2their 50/50 is worse because it resets even when you get the nonrateupt. just V6'd Cheyenne
I'm not quitting but I'm not buying either
Nexon will introduce a fix to the new system:>When you pull the 3* you wanted, a Yung Lean song starts playingwould you be okay with that?
>>575430479Japanese players here, yes there still are some, picked it up FROM THE GAME. It's called that in the game.
>Surely they will apologize if I spam elephants!>Surely they will backtrack if I spam stupid shit in steam reviews!When will you learn?
>>575430286>51.xxx.xxxYeah you’re just not right in the head so I don’t really care about your opinions
If they actually end up implementing this and don't backtrack in time, there's 0 chance they revert it isn't there? Otherwise they'd essentially have to cancel people's built up pity and there's no way they do that
>>575430517but you haven't listed a good game yet
>>575430350The game that ruined everything is FGO.
>>575430095What about Stellar Sora/Astrae Oratorio?
>>575430547It's called "pick-up", not PU. That's what I'm trying to get at and didn't make the connection at first
>>575430550>pretending it's only steam reviews
>>575430357I already told you, brain dead fucking retard GBFag who came here to shitpost today because you smelled blood in the water and thought you could capitalize on it but you don't understand our culture at allWe don't post DR.doom here you brain dead fucking faggot We don't do that shitThat shithole /co/ meme doesn't belong hereWe don't want /co/ shit here I'm not going to sit here while you retards keep posting off topic shit images from other boards thinking it belongs here when it doesn'tThe thread you're originally from may allow it but we don't, no one wants your shit images We have our own doomfox meme, which is miles better than your /co/ trash which is unwanted here
>>575430286But it's strictly worse for those who save up exactly 24000.
It annoys me to no end you retards claim BA's gacha system is any good. Rolling for a character you will use maybe once a year is awful no matter the probability of obtaining them and that's the fate of most students.
>>575430550>posting dissatisfaction pales in comparison with my method of doing nothing
>>575430170>still unreleasedI swear if Churo doesn't summon this fucker when she's released I'm gonna seethe.
MY HERO
>>575430602SS has been losing 20% of their players every month for like 6 monthsyou decide.
>>575430569backtracks don’t happen unless sales tank immediately and I don’t see the jap slaves doing itif anything the whales will be clearing the shop of every eleph pakeji
>>575430602AO has the best opportunity to one-up BA tomorrow. All they have to do is show they have spark that doesn't go away.
>>575430350lmao. 50/50 is what saved the gachaspace from the shit Japs were doing, newfag
Is this a bad time to start playing BA or is this a nothingburger for a newfag
>>575430217We're somehow revert back to this. Funny init
I only care about the average scenario, which one is better, the old or the new system? Outliers are too far away, sometimes you have extremely bad luck so you just have to grin and bear it. But what about the other 99% of the time, the average? Which one is better?
no other game scratches the itch like BA does... I might be staying until EOS bwos
>>575430196we got free 4 star shuppos the japs didn't got.... it's time to pay back with interest...
>>575430669Except the latest update literally saved the game... It was their bunny moment. Are you so insulated here that you didn't see that?
>>575430704gacha will get 100x more frustrating
we believe in happy ending!
>>575430392>50% of characters are loli>best characters in the game (eldridge, laffey) are loli>"too many hags"how the fuck do you play blue archive? this game is also about 50% hags
I only care about Prana
>>575430303Back during the DmC fiasco, I got told "don't like it, don't buy it." So I didn't buy it.Then I got accused of destroying a game out of spite. Because I liked the old games, and they made a new game that spat on the old games and I didn't buy it. It was my fault, apparently.They say vote with your wallet, but they don't mean it. They just want you to shut up.
>>575430095Emulate Ps2 games, ARMSX2 getting bunch of updates recently
>>575430095You could always try the classics…
kek the absolute state of gehenoids festMika is right
THE BEAST IS ON MY SIDE??
>>575430704There has never been a worse time. It actually affects new players the most.
>>575430704nothingburger, don't fall for the doombait shit
>>575430196>>575430230STOP SAYING MY FEAR
deep inside me wishes the game actually EOSes so we can just crowdfund that shooter fangame
Don't like it? Don't buy pakeji.
>>575430717It's worse if you were planning on rolling exactly 200 times. It's better if you're a lucklet that always has 400 rolls just in case.
>>575430753The Nexon CEO removed Foom from the game because she is too plain and unsexy to make the number go up. No more happy endings.
>>575430717average scenario new is objectively better. you'll have more rolls in the longterm to roll for more shit. it's just a fact.
>>575430704You could still get Seia and the foxes before they rape the gacha system. But you have to start playing right NOW
>>575430698You mean monkeygate did.
>>575430804Greatest T.S.Beating Avant-Guard-kun by but a hair.
>>575430851>it's better if you plan to spend 400 rolls on every double banner
https://x.com/ReReReDive/status/2081412364579086653How will nexon recover from this loss
>>575430690If they do that I’m in.
>>575430739I don't look at dead games but good for you if that was real.
>>575430704One of the best times really, they significantly increased the amounts of 3 stars you get from the gacha from now on
TL;DR the new gacha is horrible for people who plan to get 2 student in 24k.
>>575430767lolicons have this imaginary claim to land + victim complex about BAthey're the jews of this fanbase basicallyI'm not against loli but some lolicons are huge faggots about it
Shuro's vagina...
can we just execute all mathlets and move on
>>575430717It's better even when you cap it at 200 pulls per patch max
>>575430896>mihoyoslop pfpyeah nah
>>575430196damn she do be controlling one floating tear that hovers over obstacles and deals constant damage when held in place over an enemy with +0.2 shot speed.
>>575430804Sensei is also there somehow
>>575430929This is retarded even with the current system
>>575430767all the turbo lewd skins go to hags these days and that's the main draw of ALand they kept making characters that had normal attractive proportions in the past fatter and fatter in the new skinsthings like Le Malin's Listless Rabbit are a thing of the past(or were when I quit but I'd see them on my twitter feed if they came back)
Thinking about Kayoko's slutwear...
>>575430929That has been my strategy all this time...
>>575429948How about you make your own threads speed up
>>575430934Did you actually do the math yourself
its so weird to just discover oh, im actually here in this conversation.
>>575430982Considering it's a 75% chance, no it's not.
>>57543098270 IQ post
>>575430550>SAAR I WILL NOT POST ANY ELEPHANTS
>>575430929That's every player basically, who wouldn't want to get both students especially if they're limited?
It's ironic Makoto and Satsuki are gonna get punished for something that wasn't their fault to begin with.Before the gacha change, I'd rolled for Satsuki. But now? I'm hoping I lose the 50/50 on her. Makoto? Nonexistent.
TL;DR shareholders want more profits
>>575430095I've already tried all except fgo (not a fate fan) and limbus looks ugly. But If I had to pick I'll play R1999 again.Love this event, ost, and Kiperina.https://youtu.be/eVlrjZLpV4c?si=lHhzkxfvSzoZzHBw
>>575431010>>575431017>had to pick Hikari over Nozomi>had to pick bHimari over bRioYOU ARE RETARDED
>>575430982how do you think f2p and new cuties catch up?
>everyone is recommending to just ignore Makoto in the next gacha, a truly Makoto-like position.
It's funny that, in the middle of all the doomposts and shitposts, there's this one guy who's just enjoying the story.
>>575430987eh maybe that's true, I don't buy skins so I don't pay much attention, and imo the default art is usually very lewd for almost every character.>>575430982it's retarded to expect that it will happen every time, but it's very sane to save 24000 in the hopes of getting both and just pull for the one you want more first.
>>575430993
>>575431076>That's every player basicallyExactly. That's why nearly every player is mad about the changes.
Let's say the changes get reverted, what do we get as compensation?
>>575430982I got 4 students in the Arius Summer + bunny C&C banner with only 24k pyros. I won't be able to do that with the new system. Fuck you faggot.
BA is my only gacha... don't let it end prematurely...
Yostar need to save us
>>575430698>>575430868FGO didn't have pity until a few years ago, you could end up doing 700 rolls and not getting the rate up servant, even now their pity is awful (300 rolls, once per rate up meaning after that you're back to the old system, doesn't carry over and doesn't give you anything after the rate up is over)
>>575431004That's the problem I have with recent volumes and events, Sensei is almost non-existent in the story now
>>575431149"You", don't get anything. Because globalcucks are not affected in any way for now. You're not even supposed to know it exists because they didn't announce it for you.
People will unironically say the new system means they now need to do 300/400 pulls for both units while claiming that under the old system, in this same situation, theyd have gotten both in 200How low is your IQ
>>575431109it's peak I'm afraid
>>575431086You still want to continue after this?
>>575429982Stinky
>>575430993>artist desperately wants to draw Kayoko naked>not allowed to for obvious reasons
>>575431010It's 64% under the new system but you will have way HIGHER chance of pulling before that so less people (around 17% less) will be forced to reach the 200 cap. It all ends averaging out with the new system needing ~11 less pulls on average for 2 units.
>new system is worse on average>averages aren't real>okay new is better on average but what about those who want to spend exactly, precisely 24k>did you even do the math yourself?you are here
>>575431193How big is your love?
>>575431193retard
>>575430982you're retarded
>>575430993swimsuit>>575431136not a swimsuit
Fuck you, /bag/.
>>575431193>>575430934This is some outsider who started posting today, trying to learn /bag/ memes by replication like an LLM.A real Fubuki wouldn't even bother to read the changes or any explanations and would just roll for students without thinking about it
>>575431193retard faggot
old system good because of that one time i got luckynew system bad because i didn't get anything in 200 rolls, that's never happened in the old system
Me, a paying customer, is upset, and so is everyone else.That's the only thing that matters.
>>575430704for you it’s nothing, for those who were already playing it’s the end times
>>575431339
>>575431339You don't matter unless you're a whale
>>575431224
>>575431093Cool, I got Hikari with 30 pulls and Himari with the 100 free pulls, skipped Nozomi and Rio
I honestly think some fags just want to gamble 24k pyro rather than actually roll students.
>>575431367judging by the top 2 pvp players' names in my server, whales are not happy
new system good because you'll rarely ever go to 200 in the first place
The new system could have a 50/50 at 50 and guarantee at 100 and I'd still be against it because I hate change
>>575431334But I got lucky every banner I have rolled with the current system. If anything lucklets that would benefit from the new system are the minority.
>>575430095>>limbus, characters are ugly as sinGood one
Yeah Hasumi is still bigger
*pat* *pat*
>>575431247If these numbers are real, isn't the new system just better?
>>575431291I'm mad because /bag/ now feels like a job over a nothingburger
>>575431136Ako showing up dressed like this is pretty much an invitation for sex isn’t it
>>575431247That's not the way it works bub.You need to save 24000 because that's the hard pity.If you get one early (170), you can continue rolling because you are still within the 24000 budget and you know you get a guaranteed reward for it.Now, let's say you win the 50/50 and get one early (100). That is way earlier than the previous case. But you cannot roll for the other one within the same 24000 budget. You have 12000 left and you cannot guarantee the other one. TL;DR winning now means always two studentsWinning after means always one student but less jimmies spent
>>575430993>No ass, no tits, not even loli>still sexHow does she keep doing it?
new system is good because Nexon is not a greedy ass company and would never hurt us
>actually Dynamis one and Isakusan might be framed>Project KV got confiscated and repurpose into Project RX>NexonEA big enough to bribe the police to plant false evidence and artists to draw futa propaganda........
limpshit sucks deal with itgame looks shitstory is shit only people impressed by it are tweens that never took philosophy 101 during their formative yearssad!
>Nexon changed the gacha system out of the blue to make it more generous and make them less money, because they love you>They also never said this on the stream >They also never provided math showing it's better>They just wanted you to do the math and figure that out yourself>And the vast majority of people are coming to the conclusion the changes are bad but that's only because they're retarded>Also don't bring up the fact that they made it harder to get elephs and added new eleph pakejis in the same update
>>575431492>no mole
>>575430894Old system average: 108 pulls to get one unitNew system average: 90 pulls to get one unitOld system average: 192.6 pulls to get both unitsNew system average: 180.1 pulls to get both units
just uninstalled
>>575431427Yeah, it's super bad if you pull a character at exactly 190 compared to the old way but most of the time you'll be saving 20-30 pulls elsewhere constantly so on average you'll actually be left with more pulls not losing out.
>>575431461I want to hug Plana so much man.
You can try my game. It'll have a better gacha system, I promise.
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The new system means that anytime you got exactly 2 students with 200 pulls you would have gotten 1 with 100 pulls. I'd gladly trade my Makoto or NY Haruna for 12k pyro each.
New system is good because I love genshin impact and now I'll have it in blue archive
>>575430095I love how you guys brag about gatekeeping the game but when it comes time to show some IQ, you're the ones who get left out.
>>575431578
>they change guarantee from 200 to 150Would (You) forgib?
>>575431492is kayoko not loli? she doesn't look that different from hina who I don't think anyone would dispute is loli
>>575431640which game that you were playing was insultedbe honest
I'm a lucklet anyways so this shit don't matter to me. It's the spark life baby.
>>575431657That changes nothing, retard
>>575431578They also let the VAs announce it as unimportant news in 2 minutes of a 7 hour stream sandwiched between other announcements, during an event which suspiciously didn't have a live audience.
>>575430791Not worth it for most ppl that doesn't have naval autism.Tho it's probably the only "gacha" that consistency have good standing with this community for over a decade.
oh god they entered her domain expansion where they are forced to face their regrets and stuff
>>575431674She fails the vibe check, not a loli
>>575431640What does IQ have to do with anything?
>>575431475In the old system it was easier to just plan around always spending 200 and accept a loss 1 in 4 banners, but yes overall the new rates end up being a little better in most cases
The only thing that can save us is Sexy Seia
>>575431704That's not a gacha. It's just a microtransaction flash game
>>575431694That's what makes it plausible
>>575431657no. we just don't want it to change, better or not doesn't matter. if they really want to make a change, keep the current system and add a 50/50 at 100, and that's it
>>575431738As if you haven't been spamming your stupid Seia memes all day
>>575431704>metafagging CLTsCringe
>What did you do to the childrenthats such a weird sentence to see in this game, it only makes sense when talking to another adult.
>>575431674kayoko is too tall, slender and her legs are too long to be one, she has a proper waist so she isn't a rectangle either
>>575431290Carebear Raiders aren't doing so hot anymore so hopefully Nexon will kick this retard out by the end of this year if not sooner
>>575431657change 50/50 to 80 and hard pity to 160 and it would be enough I think or change the roll cost to 100 pyro, it's less of an upgrade but 120 pyro always seemed like a silly number
New system is better for us because billion dollar companies always have our best interests in mind.
Skip one banner so your stockpile is up and then reap the rewards getting everything in less pull.
>>575431809She's a child (37)
>calculate that the new rolling system will bring in 1% more revenue >risk pissing off most of the players by changing the rules 5 years into the gameAre the people in charge fucking retarded?
>>575431479She's just the type who shows up to every social event dressed skimpy for no reason
for a story about moving on from grief and dealing with change, you guys sure didn't learn a fucking thing
>>575431657No. I'm not spending any more money on this game unless the gacha changes are completely reverted. No one asked for it to be changed.
>>575431754Could be argued either way. Definitely contain gacha elements. Just without the conventional "rolling"
If you were a real fan you'd buy the extra pyros and be PROUD to be keeping the game you like in business, not being a cheapskate when the numbers are already dwindling. Someone's gotta keep the lights on, piggy.
>>575431657they could have hard guarantee at 50 and I still wouldn't want it
>>575431841Shuroposting really pisses people off kek. Her bratty evil look is too much to handle
>>575431885Shut the fuck up Arona
>>575431810>loli = fat midgetthat's a new one
>>575431883If you want to call D&D a gacha.
>>575431867We were sucker punched out of nowhere
Are you going to let the hope that blue archive implanted within you /bag/ to wither away??
Globalbros, how will these changes shape how you will spend your pyros in the next few months before they get implemented? I was thinking if it does actually end up more beneficial/efficient I should save until after it gets added but I'll have to skip seia...
>>575431852>Are the people in charge fucking retarded?Yes
the only real loli is ibuki
>>575431720I think that was their goal, kill the black and white "save for 200 OR skip" system and have people engage with the gacha more. They don't care if the odds are slightly better now, as long as retards feel like spending more time gambling on the gacha now because of its extra flexibility and slight better odds it's a win for them.
I prefer consistent damage of 50 with 100% accuracy than 2% accuracy that deals 25500 damage. Averages are for suckers.
>>575431885kys
>>575430095>nikke, aight I guessRetcons, endless flashback stories, slop collabs and tencent>limbus, characters are ugly as sinmx2j wished he was as good as Naiga
>>575431926loli = short rectangle yes
>>575431935I'll stop throwing 20 single rolls on random banners since I'll be rewarded for that in the future, I guess.
>>575431956Please stop posting this image it always gets me hard for Kokona
>>575431578Yup, it all checks out to meThe sticking point is the elephs which I do think take an overall hit outside of rateup but nobody's ran a convincing comparison yet
>>575431935still rolling foxes but after that unknown
>>575431867Uh yeah we should just let Nexongrammaton take away our freedom for his perfect goy continent pity system. KYS
>>575431657nah50/50 at 50 pulls and guaranteed at 100 or no dice
I will reserve my judgement until I actually get to roll>if I get bad luck, I insult the new system>if I get GODrolls, I praise the new system
>>575431841for me it's h-games
what were they thinking...
>>575431957Averages are for PR shills.
>>575431935before these changes I wouldn't spend unless I had 24k pyros, or 48k pyros if I want both students. and I make sure to have 48k before each fes.after these changes I won't spend unless I had 24k pyros, or 48k pyros if I want both students. and I make sure ot have 48k before each fes.but I'm also not spending any real money on the game.
>>575431829It's time to remove universal blueprints, extra elephs from recruitment and the commission stages they've added since launch.
>>575431848she is still fertile...!
>>575432002>Yup, it all checks out to me
>>575431704>more than 1 wifesoulless TTK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FdMqjYEU8Uit's out
>>575431841They will add some form of weapon banner in the future and I will blame /bag/
too much text in each post
>>575432059?
>>575430225>If you don't like it, quit Dogrector...
>>575432037*hand rubbing intensifies*
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ENTERNAGUSA (FORMA COMPLETADA)
>>575431797>Kiso>meta
>>575432059Nobody liked the current blueprint system over universal blueprints. Getting rid of it is beneficial to both the company and the players.
>>575432072>video from a guy who's always around 200k gems and doesn't read momotalks at allOkay this should be "good"
ok but if you don't like it why not quit???
>>575431927If only rougelike's rougelite has a equivalent term here.It's moreso just saving of resources to grind events to roll for drops. And u can't just translate resources into rolls directly
>>575432094/bag/ will clap and coonsoom because that means they can upgrade their studentwife further and post it here for the monthly reddit circlejerk
>>575432123she was lying about he hand btw
>>575432094They will add some form of weapon banner in the future and /bag/ will defend it with a bunch of math that's irrelevant because it ignores the naked fact that adding a weapon banner is ultra jewish.
>>575432021they aren't replayable (unless they have decent gameplay like bs2)
>>575432123Finally I can receive proper handjobs
>>575432173It's a bullshit change, there was no need to make it
One pros of the new system is that since it removes the certainty and importance of the number 200, we don't feel the rolls spent to reach that cap as a waste? Cope or not?
>>575431829They don't have your best interest in mind which is in fact the reason they made it better >>575431956This will increase revenue despite the better odds
I acknowledge this is a bad time to discuss giving money to Yostar/Nexon, but did anyone buy the previous powerbank in the shape of Aris' gun they released some time ago? I want to buy Kei's, but I need to know if the battery is built in, or replaceable, as this affects if I can go with regular proxy or find a different one.
>>575432123Now with her handjob arm Nagoose can shoot faster!
>>575432173I don't want to quit, I want to keep doomposting
>>575432173I'll just stop spending money instead
>>575432059if you think they added those out of generosity, you're fucking gullible
>>575432174Okay I stopped playing like 7 years ago but there was never any grinding for event drops in the many years I played.
>>575432037If money didn't exist, greed wouldn't either.If greed didn't exist, then our gacha system would be untouched.
>>575432189but we love this though? you are free to quit whatever you like
/bag/ is so mindbroken from Stella Sora you could literally introduce a weapon gacha tomorrow and they'd jump all over it
Do you think a "phenomenon" (hyper popular series) - the way people talk about BA "replacing" Touhou - could arise today without it being gacha but like a normal game?
>>575431704How are the boats now?
>>575432293The reaction to this has been negative too, it just hasn't been discussed much over the gacha changes.
I will not abandon my students no matter what.
>>575432173>if they kick your ass just walk away lol
>>575432202I still have more time in KISS games than I do in gacha at this point. And I have a lot of time in gacha.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/575398856/deleted/deleted/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/575391831/deleted/deleted/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/575384546%20/deleted/deleted/
>>575432193OH SHIT IS THAT WEAPON WITH RANDOM STATS WOW SO COOL, AND ALSO CHEAPER THAN BUYING REAL VIDEO GAME, THE MATH ALSO CHECKOUT. GAMBLING IS SO MUCH FUN
>>575432305stella sora is still rated 3* in my playstore region lol
Guys im confused, why is the new system so badIsnt it a huge luck increase for 3 stars pulls to now be a 50% chance at getting the banner units? Or are the off rate characters that valuable?
>>575432293>weAlso, why would I quit? I'll just stop spending>inb4 I'm not a whalebillion - 1
>>575431956They might also have wanted to reduce the chance of a worst case (double spark), players quit over that kind of thing and at 1 in 14 chance most players eventually encounter it.
>>575432293Can't wait for /bag/ to blindly copy maldy clears from some youtube guides without having the same level of extra investment from that then crying about it.
>>575432412>>575431489
>>575432320No, 2hu doesn't cost much to make and everyone likes the terrible drawings through a weird Stockholm Effect. People today have higher standards than 20 years ago. A brand new game that tries the 2hu model isn't going anywhere
>>575431885If they needed money so bad Ibuki and Iroha would be in a micro bikini.
>>575432350>abandonNah I burn the house, kill all students, then kms.
>>575432320I thought KC replaced 2hu, which was then replaced by FGO/AL, which was then replaced by BA.
the math told me you should kill yourself NOW
>>575432467>2hu modelyou mean... releasing a game?
Let's go... kill ourselves
>>575432430People will now quit when they get a student on their 190th roll inetead
anyone have the up to date version of the npc jail image?
>5 months of Pandemonium shorts only to ruin Fes with a garbage change no one asked for
>>575432293Translationit's really over, isn't it?
dont care, still rolling and sparking for p-soc
>>575432412It's only better if you get decent coin tosses, you can get hard fucked by luck worse than before.
>>575432557we know, irohafag
>>575432497I mean grassroots or underground popularity that grows above the soil over the years into something big
>Everyone on the entire planet is laughing at usEyyyepperoo, it's over time.
>>575432557>I'm proud of being a mindless consoomer
>>575432493The next one will come from Poland
slurp slurp
>>575432557Natural Breasts Society, or NatSoc for short.
>>575432435I exclusively copy western(well they're probably all SEA) clears and only run into problems when I'm ahead of the timeline because my students are more invested than theirs. Japanese clear videos aren't comfy enough for me.
we won bigly
>>575432320Unless you can create content on a regular basis you are not. 2hu is a special case in gaming for this. Gacha is one of the few game models that offers ongoing conten to keep interest.
>>575432493What Ur describing is the migration of artists
>>575432549>>575432293I don't see what's the issue here (except for newfags), it's just another timegate raid that you need to sweep everyday.that being said they are totally going to release a catchup pakeji for this feature.
>>575432549As is, it just sounds like Limit Breaking again. We need the hard numbers first
>>575432557Heh, you must be rich. Because under the new changes, that's gonna cost you 84k jims.
worst thing about having a sw*de in charge is they have zero work ethic and believe in things like 'maternity leave' and workplace 'equality', which means you'll get content basically never
surely they will release official calculations on how the new system is BETTER for players
>>575432729Why would they when they have an army of cattle here to do it for them?
pushing all the scenario in your head huh?that's not healthy
>>575432729They won't because they will have to admit that rolling 200 is worse now, which was the goal
So many 'calculations' but no action taken. Nothing will change.
I made a pull simulator and simulated trillions of pulls and the math works out that the new system is better.
>>575432729Hopefully. JP would understand immediately. Global will still keep sperging out tho
>>575432729Bro it's been like 20 hours since the announcement. Still radio silence. They are not going to revert.
>>575432549>>575432293I will only bother with this shit to max my studentwife. Everything else to the crafting chamber.
>>575432729Even if it's better by like 10%, it's not better the the type of playstyle they nurtured over several years, which is getting two concurrently running banners. It's only better at getting one of them and rolling more often.
>>575432412Your result will entirely depend on your 50/50 pity pull success. You will not be doing enough pull to statistically get 50% success you need to see the increased benefits. You will fail 8 times in a row and Nexon will pretend they have a perfect solution for your case in the shop.
>>575432816Thanks Yuuka
>>575432814>no action takenSource?
>>575432816proof?
>>575432320I would say games like fire emblem and Splatoon kind of do that, but with different demographics. Although fire emblem kind of splits it's fanbase too many ways and hates everyone except for whoever the current release is for
what the heck is her problem, so edgy
This change is GOODI agree the "got her on pull 190" will suck, but overall you'll be saving 18 pulls to get one girl, and 12.5 pulls for two girls>B-B-But there was nothing wrong with the way it was!!!Yes, there was.>I really like this girl>oh, but she's in the regular pool>and bluefes is in X months>I better save and hope she spooks me>repeat...>she didn't spook me>now I can't even roll for her>and if she finally spooks me, she won't even be 4*Isn't this frustrating as well?They're changing and making pulling for 1/2 girls cheaper so you can engage more with the gacha and DICKPULLThey're taking the L and making it easier for F2P and low spenders so you can DICK PULL, so you can sovl pull.WAKE UP
>>575432771these retards can't convince anyone, gotta do the damage control themselves
>>575432897It's coming
We're all supporting Nexon and not questioning their decisions.
>>575432816Good job doing trillions of pull with your saved pyros.
>>575430095I’m not in any gacha space. I play BA because it’s good and has good characters while not being annoying to play. All the other ones are dogshit so if I couldn’t play BA I’d not play another gacha. Dunno why anyone thinks they have to have a gacha just for the sake of having one. That said, BA ain’t going anywhere any time soon.
>>575432814We can't know for sure until the update drops. Then the fate of the game will be on the nips (grim)
>>575432816Only better unless you're a fucking madman who's trying to pull 4 concurrent banners, in which case the old one is better.. slightly.
>>575432727as someone who works for a multinaitonal corpothey believe in those things for THEMthey don't believe in those things for the foreign drones who do all the work
>>575432853Did you arrive to these threads 1 minute ago? People have been posting the stats for hours now on how the new one is better
>>575432908TL;DR you're a retard
>>575432828It makes their practice of releasing two characters at once completely stupid in retrospect. Double bluefes is just double coinflipping. Hoyo can do this with month long single banners.
>>575432872>fire emblem
>>575428480Holy crap it worked. Were so fucking back!
>>575432976>>575432908see >>575432828
Funnily the cunny vs hag poster hasnt posted since yesterday.
Ayame would like the new system...
Corporate damage control should be banable offense
>>575432412the game runs almost entirely on double banners where you want both characters, at least for meta purposes, in which case you're more likely than not to get fucked overit's only better ON AVERAGE if you want a single student
>>575429892Outside of budget rollers woes, I wonder if there just aren't many turbowhales rolling for dupes, since change hurts them pretty bad and it would be the demographic you don't want to alienate too much.This is probably because whales have plenty of ligmas anyway. I suppose devs will want to implement some time-gated character upgrade material next that can be "conveniently" bought with cash, to give a whaled-for student a month or two of hard advantage.
>>575430303It's not about that phrase in particular, it's about that phrase related directly to BFV
>>575432897The fate of all with homophobia.
Mika love
>>575433056>This is probably because whales have plenty of ligmas anyway.Not ever since UE60
>>575432908God bless. I hope they don't back down.
>>575432637Artists go where the popular games are.
is the story update tomorrow or after the fes?
This system would be infinitely better if it lets you save your pity even after losing 50/50 cross banners. That would allow you to vibe pull more often and end up with many more new students.
>if you spend trillions of pyro new system is betteruhhh... Nice!
>>575432549What’s wrong with this unless it’s paid? Just do it for your favorite.
>>575431657the replies to this make me want to apologize to Rio
>>575432520It's funny that getting to 190 in the new system has the same outcome as getting to 200 in the old system, as well as half as likely to happen, but somehow feels way worse
>>575433019Grats. Make sure to keep a list of the people you follow now that you got it back just in case.
All will be forgiven if they add a pazuri scene to Satsuki's swimsuit momotalks
>>575432412More randomness, less certainty.More chance of losing and leaving without getting what you wanted/needed.
>>575432908so it's worst long term? idgi
>>575433149It's another form of power inflation with very limited resources.
>>575433019be more careful next timeno retweets, likes are I think fine but better safe than sorrythe algorithm will still give you what you want if you follow the right accounts and click on posts you like
>>575432908Almost 2 free GA tickets per banner? I love john nexon
KINO KINO KINO KINO
>>575433019gz my manlosing your twitter sucks ass
it was so comfy anniversary streaming viewer count peaked everybody was happy until john nexon shot himself in all of a sudden why why did they do this
>>575433235Ayame stole Hina's reload animation. She must be punished.
If they really thought the new system was better they would have hyped it up, not presented it as flatly as possible on a couple of walls of text
>>575433012This is a 30+ general
you guys are still arguing over the system? Really? Stop replying to retards to jesus
>>575432908>"bros I swear it's a good thing!!!!!!">shows graph that shows it's a bad thing????
>>575433024Multiple posters are gone, including half the resetposters and most ritualposters. Where is coom in nozoom? Where is canon wife Fuuka?>Who cares about ritualposters?No one, but they're a measurable sample.
>>575432557Yeah, really all the game needed. May make trannies mad to hear, but this is definitely the best fes.
>>575433287It's better by like 5%, and for the whales it may be worse. Not worth it hyping it up.
>>575433287>don't you guys have phone?at least be that confident
>>575433336do you like the gacha changes?
yes nagusa inject HER WITH HOPE
>>575432729They did an anniversary stream without an audience so they wouldn't have to deal with PR, just like BlizzCon. They knew exactly what they were doing.
>>575433321I care
>>575433019How did you fix it?
>>575432412see >>575428949
>>575430690Dude they literally have weapon gacha
>>575433372Arona queue up Hopes and Dreams
>>575430225>>575430303>>575430338>>575430398>>575430457>>575430776>don't like it don't buy it>Why are people pretending this is a controversial statement?How is this statement is NOT controversial?>Gamers are uneducated people—they don’t understand plausible scenarios, they lack critical thinking, and they don't like to sit down and listen.>Diversity is important in games. Genders are important in games. And today gaming is very gender-diverse, like it hasn’t been before.>If Gamers dislike and reject gender-diverse topics, then perhaps Gamers must go away and open the seats to a new audience, like female persons (or persons that identify as female).>There are a lot of female persons who would want to join and play video games, but male Gamers often push them away by supporting misogynistic topics and misogynistic franchises.>We don’t want our female audiences to take any flak anymore.>We stand up for their cause, to take gaming back from the mysogynistic male Gamer>I think those people (Gamers) don’t understand it, well let me put it simple, you have two choices:>Either accept the new changes or go away and don’t buy the game.>I’m fine with either.>We are confident in our product and know that sales will be good.>I have a 13-year-old daughter, she sees everyday Gamers being racist and misogynistic in social media.>Last week she asked me, ‘Dad, why’s this happening?’ Why are these people so upset about brown minorities and female players in their game?’>She looked at me and she couldn’t understand it.>And I’m like, ok, as a parent, how the hell am I gonna respond to this?
>>575433404NTA but it goes faster when you write "elon's bitch" on your naked body in a marker and send the photo.or so I'm told
>>575433354True it's not worth avoiding whatever is going on on social media about the change
>>575433467Proof?
>>575433183I can't really explain it, but I think it's tied to the fact that they changed it in the first place. With old system you would suck it up and accept your bad luck, but now you feel you've been wronged somehow
mucho textoqrd por favor
>the one with more clothing is somehow more sexwhat the fuggg is this black magic
DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON ME YOURE ALREADY A VOICE INSIDE MY HEADI miss you miss you~
>>575430997Rio was that good huh
>>575430690>weapon gacha>ncsoftThey aren't one-uping shit.
>>575433509the proof is that I got unbannedI mean my friend did. Not me. I didn't do it
>>575433467That's bullshit, but I believe it
Did they really had to annunce the new system TOGETHER with content of the worst club and worst school of the game?It's like they wanted people to be disapointed
>>575433518My daughter asked me why people don't like Karin, then everyone clapped
>sorry Wappi I have to skippu
>>575433105Same>>575433225It gets worse long term for copies, because getting 1 resets the counter>>575433308No? Only for whales who wants to farm but they won't care>>575433023How is being forced to hoard for fes and skipping your dick and sovl pulls good and healthy
>>575433287That happens with every announcement and qol implemention they announce on stream
>>575433467Your gookako pic?
LIVE you bitch and stop being edgylive for the air feels nicelive for you enjoy the warmth of the sunlive for you like the smell of food during a festivallive because the world is beautiful
>>575433594Now they just have to revert the gacha change and people will pretend to like Pandemonium. All according to plan.
>>575431841always funny
>>575433626You can't be serious
Even the ai is smelling bullshit from the machine response of the feedback players are getting afterwards
>>575433369On the actual changes, I’d prefer the current system, but even they don’t sound actually bad enough to make the game anywhere near as bad as other gachas. They’re just gonna cancel the changes anyway so I kinda question the ones saying BA is gonna die, but they say BA has been on the brink of death for years so I guess it’s pretty resilient. But yeah, the actual content of the game, like the fes and event, is undeniably better than anything we’ve had before, so I am indeed filled with hope and pride. Looking at who it is that hate us, I feel glory in BA’s success.
>>575432412New system is better at 100 rolls (for one rateup student) and 300 rolls (for two rateup)Old system is better at 200 rolls (for two rateup)The new system is better if you simply want a new student, just roll 100 times to reach the soft pity for a 50/50 chance which old system didn't have, even if you fail the pity carries over and you can guarantee the next banner. BUT if you want both two rateup there's a likely chance you need to spend more than the old system since the pity reset when you get a rateup one
>>575433518I fucked my JK daughter
>>575433630there is nothing I like left in this world
>>575433287It's funny people are trying to justify why the change is actually a good thing, while even Nexon never did that. Not once did they say this would be better for players.
>>575433615>How is being forced to hoard for fes and skipping your dick and sovl pulls good and healthyThere are 12 limited students per year, always in pairs. Most people pull that gacha aiming to get both. It's different for permanents.
>>575433615retard
>>575433404Just submit an appeal and hope for the best. Make sure to include that you've been a good boy and a huge Elon fan,
>>575433321they can't get any attention with the discussion about gacha changes completely drowning out their worthless posts so they stopped, simple
Is the new system better for non metafags?
>>575433704I'll never love again, my world is ending
>>575433683>needing AI to understand a canned responseWhat the fuck?
>>575433795If you are only ever rolling for permanents and only one each banner then yes
What's up with the Indojeet spamming walls of text made with ChatGPT?
>the pity is shared between permanent and limited bannersYou rike it now?
>>575433820I prefer adult women
>>575432908>>575433615Under the old system you were literally incentivized to never pull for a chara even if you really wanted them unless you liked both banner characters becuase doing otherwise was a waste of recruitment points. I don't get it either why people don't like the extra flexibility, it's super obvious.
>>575433861it wouldn't matter cuz pity is dogshit
>>575433820Make him white first
>>575433607lel this banner was literally the only time in 2 years where I didn't get a rate-up before spark and niggers here pretending to be smart want me to start depending on mihomo's 50/50 bullshit
>>575433903retard
>>575433820I CAN SEE IT
>>575433850Nexon can only afford hiring Indians to shill their fucked up system. Please understand
>>575432828that's just false btw
>>575433820I liked the first part better. Hopefully he'll make something with Kisaki and Kokona next.
>>575433928Stop believing in your own experience and listen to my simulation of 1 trillion rolls
My extra Mika elephs...
What a cunning woman
>>575433850"Math" bros can't actually do math themselves and need a jeet machine to do the math for them.
>>575430982Checking the damage report post from bAris/Kei's banner, that's how the majority of people roll >>569968850 or at least how the majority of people plan their rolls (and most got 1 or 2 of them before 200 so they only had to spark the other, for the people rolling 200 times)New system seems strictly worse for the majority of people (save 24k, roll in one banner, spark the other)
>>575433321Why can't you stop lying? Is it because you're brown or just mental illness? Just checking the archives is more than enough to see that you're a fucking shitstirrer tourist
You are are literally petitioning for gacha changes with the the elephant crowd. Global's influence is over they wasted it trying to get some tranny bullied
Honestly if ba really fucking dies i'll just fill my jeeter feed with nothing but warhammer stuff to numb the pain of losing my kids.
>>575433861fuck off. make the pity not reset when you get the rate up (it only resets at 200) and the thing is completely fixed. that's the only change they need to make
>>575433805>>575433924>BWEEEEEEE!!! -SNIFF- B-BWEEE- *SNORT*
>>575434017You want more eleph? That will be $30.What you keystone? Here's gift pakeji it's only $40
>>575432908stop with the statistics and argumentsI FEEL like it's bad so I'll just flail my arms in rage
if i coax and comfort /bag/, will everyone post more wholesome things?
>>575434096I always knew elephantbros were our greatest allies.
I'm going out for a bit, need to take my dog-wife for a walk.
>>575434096>99% of players hate the changes>Hey don't you know some of the people you dislike are in that 99%? Doesn't that make you want to change your position?
Nexon changed it due to player retention feedback showing that people only like 50/50 pity, Yostar disagreed with the changes so deliberately sabotaged it by presenting it as badly as possible in the stream. Another Yostar malicious compliance incident.
>>575433019My account got hacked by AIbot scammer, I changed the password but grok still says it will not overturn the decision to block it :(
Holy shit, still going, eh?
IT BEEN A WHOLE DAYADDRESS ME NEXON
>>575433308illiterate monkey
>>575434106Nah, what they should do is make it so the pity doesn't reset, and if you hit it, you get a free extra roll that is guaranteed to be the rate up student.
Blue Archive 2 is cancelled.
>Even Plana is evil nowSAVE ME CHEWRONA
This new system is better for a gambling addict like me, I can pull without having to worry about wasting my rolls now. There I said it.
>>575433956>>575434059I was talking about the jeet mass replying with a wall of greentext, retards
THE REAL HEROESMY HEROES
>>575434182Ironic that Makoto pic is posted when Makoto is the single most affected student by this lmao
>>575433042Stop being anti-semitic
>>575434098BA maintenance costs are way too low to EoS, they're only doing this because line must go up.
>Arophant still undefeated
>>575434234Yes you can 'build pity' now whatever that means
>>575434098BA ain’t dying until they make BA 2
>>575434134i doubt
>>575434234That's what we've been saying but it only works without foresight
>>575434271Pikachu is coming
the only way to make things more exciting if global accelerates more aggressively
>>575431797>>575432069I unironically love all 3 so much I can't bring myself to jerk off to them
this fes sure made waves right sensei? Ahaha...
if i stop masturbating god will reward me with money
>>575434267>buildUntil you get a student before 200 and then your pity resets
>>575434271watch, once they fire the EA executive they will hire an ActiBlizz exec and will do this, but BA 2 will just be a relaunch of BA with more predatory monetization, and with your progress entirely reset.
w.. woah they are so cool man
>>575434242How will the ninja club react if they see Ibuki chose the pirate life?
>>575434340So now I'm gambling on not getting the rate up. You know what that means? More gambling.
>>575434315I never cared for it after gen 6. Should’ve went back to sprites. So there’s no competition for BA there.
If carryover pity better then why didn't they make the seiyuus go sugoi pachi pachi when they announced it?
I wonder if anyone who's opposing the change ever had to double spark
>>575434361Maybe not ALL pirates are bad..
>>575434350And it will die instantly, they tried this with maplestory 2Meanwhile maplestory is still going
>>575434318>Get to use the new shitty gacha system earlierRetard.
>>575434351Unironically the best
>>575434407>he's still posting the same bait
pity is so bad that it doesn't even matter that it carries over lol
>>575434331I haven't masturbated for 8 months.
live so you could plant with your friendslive so you can bickerlive so you can have fun
>>575434391>>575434175
>>575434407Wowee two extra Miyako dupes
>>575434249Yeah, no shit. I wanna talk about how hot her swimsuit is, but it's been nothing but winging and number crunching all fucking day. Take it up with Israel or Sweden and fuck off.
>>575434470hahahaha she's such a fucking loser!
>>575434407I did.
>>575434324yep
>>575434417People like to act like nothing ever happens, no player protest ever works, and that everything will just continue as is... Except there are numerous examples of games dying due to bad updates. I wonder who benefits from the defeatist mindset...
BA is like Maplestory but for lolichuds
>>575434487No, I mean like, a lot less people will roll on S.Makoto because of it.
Damn
I hate Arona so much it's unreal
>>575434470>Makoto forgot to pay the internet billTragic
>>575434487nobody is stopping younot everyone is a doomer here
take responsibilities for your actions and WAKE UP
>>575432412We said it again and again, it's better if you're rolling for only one student and getting her early (rolled her within 99 or won the 50/50)But it's worse if you're rolling for more because it'll either fuck you in the ass for having to 50/50 again with about half of the budget OR it will hurt your ligma stashNew system also incentivizes gambling more (rolling until 100 to gamble on the 50/50) and will lead more people to burning their pyro stashes away (Nexon's real objective with the change)
>>575434487Makoto is ugly though
wakawife
>>575434470Incorrect. Michiru always has at least one viewer (it's me).
>>575434541Yeah no more 2 for 1 freebies, people will only roll on characters they actually want
>>575434528waow (based based based)
>>575434407People who oppose the change live in an alternate reality where not hitting the 75% chance to get both rate-ups by 200 rolls never ever happensObviously none of these (steam)babs ever hard to double spark
Does the pity carry over for the same banner or different banners also? The latter is good if it's true.
>>575434572>New system also incentivizes gambling more (rolling until 100 to gamble on the 50/50) and will lead more people to burning their pyro stashes away (Nexon's real objective with the change)b-but the math shows that it's better!
>>575434521Can't wait for another Iroha doujin
>>575434614>replying to yourself
coom in doomrope in hope
>>575434407I did, as early as a few weeks ago
>>575434407I did, Aris and Kei, Rio and Neru, also Mika and Nagisa swimsuit. What now retards?
>>575434614I usually just cut my losses if that happensProblem with new system is it will happen a lot more often
Can't wait to witness how assoral ends up also having 50/50 AND a weapon gacha.
>>575434614>You either hit 200... or you double spark>There is no inbetween>Definitely not>That part doesn't exist>Ignore the numbers that suggest that you have to roll more than 200 times more often with the new system>Because you double spark less>And nothing between 200 and double sparking exists okay.
Every LLM I ask about this (pro models etc) tell me the same exact thing, new system is far better. It's time to listen I think. You can only get mad at this if you are a whale.
>>575434595You're gay
>>575434569Sleep snug Ayame
>>575434407tyuuka + tmarihikari + nozominyfuuka + nyharuna
>>575434641Same
>>575434261>still no feedback on hired influencers calling some gacha players wierd>the other guy literally defended a tranny
>>575434614>>575434643>if two people have the same opinion they're the same person!schizo>>575434684>Problem with new system is it will happen a lot more oftenNot it will not, you are a brainlet who doesn't understand probabilities stop spreading misinformation brainlet
>LLM
>>575434719>more spam of the same bait he's posted before
>>575434614I just roll to 200 and come back on the rerun. But now there isn't even a counter to tell you you did 200 rolls, so I guess I'll just end up going to 300. Probably less rolling but maybe that's a good thing.
>>575434723No I'm just not attracted to trannies
>>575434614I had to double spark recently and still want the current system to stay. see >>573220518 (and the reply chain to that post, it has the rest of the rolls)
you are retarded gay ass faggot twink tranny if you think new gacha system is good
>the slop machine told it's good!Are these """"people"""" for real?
>all this A.I bullshit Would the real Arufag stand up and show us his model answer ?
>>575434541Yeah, uh-huh, ok. Anyway. Look at this creature!
>>575434361If I remember correctly, there was a game, movie, or some shit about ninjas vs. pirates
>>575434614I don't give two shits about your literally 6%-chance event
>>575434829no, they're ragebaiting
>>575434770>>575434775Discuss the argument otherwise stfu
>>575434407Multiple times. The 50/50 still sucks because you can get fucked over by rolling 190 times and getting the Rate-Up Student
were there any summer edits
>>575434550Updated
>>575434423>>575434351Erotic!
>>575434787fatass
>>575434713>You either spend exactly 200 rolls.... or you don't roll at all>There is no inbetween>Definitely not>That part doesn't exist>Ignore the numbers that PROVE that you will get more students for the same amount of pyros on average with the new system>Because you have to change your rolling habits>And nothing other than spending exactly 200 rolls on a banner exists okay
>>575434829bro people actually play gacha. wake up
I don't really care about which system stays but implementing the new one will make a lot of people quit and I don't really want that.
>>575434407I was told to roll for NYAru so I double sparked her with NYMutsuki only to never use her. I hope that anon dies.
>entire working day with zero updates or acknowledgementit's not looking good...
>>575434787Yeah hags > lolis and it's not eve close.
There are anons who uses AI for their answers in this general?
>>575434868Nobody really cares about Pandemonium so noBig reason they aren't getting much art either. By this point Swimsuit Seia had exploded with art
Sensei, You're supposed to keep at least 100k pyros ready at any time
>>575434861You have no argument
>the general will be the same 750 posts of crying about gacha system till we eosGIVE ME MY COMFY /BAG/NOW
stop with the ragebaiting and start masturbating
>>575434861>respond to my wall of AI-generated slophttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
>chewy is nice to us and wants to be helpful>arona tries to make us quit the game by being shittyI think I know who the real villain is here
Sensei, there is no 200 point system. The pity has always been like this. Maybe you need some rest?
>>575434865yeah but that's about as unlucky as having to double spark in the current system
>>575434890ThisEven if the new one is slightly better in some instances the upheval isn't worth it.
I think we all have to admit Pandemonium is the best club
>>575434939I tried but I'm too sad and let down
>>575434626Irrelevant for the point.The point is that now (impulsive) players have a chance to lose it all for nothing, when before they would just hoard.Mathematically it could be better for normal people since in average they can save like 60 rolls per year or whatever, but it doesn't matter because what Nexon wants is to change the status quo of hoarding.Think about it like this: we all know gacha players right? Do we really think there will be NO retards rolling to 100 to gamble on the 50/50, losing, and stopping there? There will, a lot. And that's a lot of pyros burned, when before those people would just hoard more and more.>>575434614Yet we can see that while that happens (your pic isn't even a double spark btw), the majority of people most of the time don't hit that. See >>575434061Yes it sucks when you have to spark without getting a single PU student, of course, but that is not the standard. You only remember the cases you do because we tend to remember bad things more.And now we'll talk about losing 50/50s instead of double sparking.
>>575434625it carries over for different banners but that comes with multiple issues>it is not shared between permanent and limited banners>if you get the rate-up it completely resetsso basically, if you wanted to build pity in advance for fes, you can't because the rolls you do on permanents won't count towards it. if you want to buy pity by throwing a couple tenners on a banner you don't particularly care about and are (un)lucky enough to get a rate-up, you just wasted your pyros. hope you rike
>>575434895they themselves are waiting for a response from the CEO, who is wfh in Sweden maybe? dunno
>>575434890The community will be stronger filtering the spergs out.
Here's the factsThe new system is a little bit better. You'll save around 12 rolls per banner on average.Now consider this: How many banners to do you roll on a year? How many rolls are you saving? Is it enough for a 50/50? Is it enough for a guarantee?Is it worth it for the more predatory system that encourages gambling on 50/50s so you don't have enough pyros to guarantee the girls you actually want?
>>575434719BUT MY FEEFEES > HARD NUMBERS
How do you know the new system will be shit? It's not even out yet!
>>575434972>>575434975getting mixed signals here
>>575434939touching myself between postsI want to have office sex with Rin so much
>>575434975AIIIIEEEEEEEE THE TIMELINE SHIFTED
>>575434936Unfortunately that's the reality you have to face. Even a lucklet myself know the new change is bad.
>>575434564The problem is the Jeet call center is all here and it's moving the thread so fast that everything gets buried under a wall of incoherent text only ramblings. It's very not conducive to the image board experience...
>be a luckGOD who gets a BlueFes student 5 times in 1 spark>won't be able to get my sweet freebie elephs anymore in a system that prioritizes stinky "average" luckletsYuck
>>575434737>>575434675>>575434865if you were rolling with the new system, you'd either never have this happen or it'd have happened once. How do you feel about that?
24 hour art resultsSwimsuit Seia: 79Swimsuit Iroha: 24So much for Iroha being popular
>>575434890I hope everyone quits and stop posting here, the less the merrier.
>>575434895This kind of shit need a whole week before their board can reach a consensus. It all depend if the outrage last until then or the truck arrived at Nexon HQ
>>575434874based steamGODS
>>575435050If you get a pickup anywhere between 101-199 rolls, you already lost. Better my ass
>>575434407No, I can easily roll all of them within 200 rolls because I'm not lucklet bastard
Don't forget to rub bellies of brats impregnated by (You)
>>575434936>no headpat post or any game discussionsBlame nexonThey pissed off 99% their playerbase
>>575435129EOSOSESOE
90% that despite backlash theyre gonna force the new gacha system in regardless and we're gonna be stuck with itProbably for half a year or so till anni where they'll announce some small improvement to have the audience cheering like the sheeple they are
Isn't the new system actually even WORSE for business and getting people to spend money?Before, if you're rolling for just one banner and got the rate-up at, let's say, 150 then you'd be much more enticed to spend the other 50 on the other banner that you otherwise wouldn't have rolled on.In the new one you get the student at 150, it resets, and you're discouraged from going for more. What the FUCK were they thinking if this is gonna make them less money as well, backlash notwithstanding.
>>575435146They don't have a week. They have 49 hours until the servers open.
>>575435129kek
>>575435129...and makoto / sagtsuki?
>>575434817Not attracted to your own? Shameful. It's this mentality that has you creatures shrieking at the sight of a real woman.
>>575435042nigga the spergs are the only ones who will be left
>>575435212They will release iboogi and all will be forgiben
>>575435130There hasn't been a single gogurt or Hina post since the stream AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>575435217they want people to engage with more banners without it feeling like a waste
>>575435129>Iroha hate baiting now of all timesThe (You) economy must be GRIM
>>575435029>(your pic isn't even a double spark btwsee>>575434768
>>575435247Satsuki: 29Makoto: 8Not good
>>575435129and kayoko..?
>>575435284I'm not in the mood of posting gogurt desu
>>575435217The problem is that most of the rateup come in pair
update day bread will be better
>>575435284I didn't even notice, but you're right
>>575435129ᴵʳᵒʰᵃ'ˢ ˢʷᶦᵐˢᵘᶦᵗ ᶦˢ ʷᵃʸ ᵗᵒᵒ ᶜᵒnˢᵉʳᵛᵃᵗᶦᵛᵉ
Its over... it was okay. some lore drops with nature's beauty being connected to the family and hyakkaryouran, stuff about the spirit world, and finally meeting kuzunoha. i think the weakest part of this chapter was definitely Ayame. in the end she still somewhat held on to her edginess but now its implied that one day she'll wake up and have a good apology video ready. Churo definitely grew on me, im glad theres more to her personality than being a brat, i hope to see more of her. Azami jobbed, Churo's festival actually did more damage than Azami did since Churo burned the city. Sensei definitely got sidelined in this chapter. Renge's outfit is erotic, Yukari is Cute, Kikyou is the MVP, Nagusa got a power up and The Ninjas are my Heroes. Niya saved the city by doing nothing, Kaho is how Nagusa should act towards Ayame, and Chise should become an idol.
I fuck hags and lolis
>>575435067Chewy is a good girl, not knowing something doesn't make you evil
>>575435035>it carries over for different banners but that comes with multiple issuesActually this is good news for me, I still don't have a lot of 3* like Mine, and I wouldn't mind throwing a couple of tenners to build pity. If I gets her, great, if not that's okay, I can try again later for another 3* I want, instead of praying for spooks in fes.>throwing a couple tenners on a banner you don't particularly care aboutUhh, I don't think I will be doing this.
>>575435129when are we getting fanart on the new gacha system
Sex.With Ibuki.
>>575435217They gave you better odds in exchange for a system that baits people into gambling on the gacha more. If you are smart, this is better for you. For the % of retards that can't control themselves it's worse.
>>575435105NTA but just hide the posts. These kinds of tourists always samefag, they make sure to reply to each other and are well known for playing both sides so hiding the first post ends up hiding the rest of their samefagging ragebait garbage
EinOhrSof
gogurtposting will never be the same...
>>575435370Yes, we need Chise/Kaho idol alts.
>>575435332>>575435129Where are all the Nexon paid artists
>update drops>it is actually nothing burger >everything goes back to the status quo
>>575435217they think they can switch to a system meant for degenerate gamblers after 5 YEARS of cultivating a playerbase of responsible rollers
Come home /bag/
>>575435304She’s just that powerful
>>575435304There are seventeen baits to a fish. What do you think?
>>575435437evil sex zone
>>575434841>>575434829>>575434907>>575434941>>575434719>Would the real Arufag stand up and show us his model answer ?I'm the Arufag that often does AI porn, I use Claude for my daily job and I have premium sub.I even have like $200 of credit for the model Fable 5.But I don't see why would you need an AI to tell you that the new gacha system is garbage.It would be a shitshow trying to double pity Dress Muchuki and Dress Haruka if they bring that shit early to Global.
>>575435479Vibes are different now, it'll never be the same
>>575435462They can't be paid because nobody was buying gemmies on the old system, luckily the new system will promote bigger spending
>>575435129You're saying Iroha was never really popular, her accumulating of artwork was just a function of time? I guess I could believe that
>>575435439Every retard gambler thinks they're smart.
>>575435129Is this really that surprising? Trinity has always been more popular. Gehennoids have a persecution complex about this and think they're equal when it's Hina hard carrying them. Ironically they hate Hina lol
I sometimes wonder what her scent is like...
We're still hereI personally just too sad to post gogurt
>>575435462Busy avoiding getting hate speech in their comments section, even if they aren't fully employed by said company
>>575435479>things that won't happen
>>575435479You're delusional if you think this didn't completely break a lot of peoples trust and hasn't already done permanent damage, EVEN IF they announce right this minute that they're reverting it.
>paying a sub for AI>you also need currency to run itit's like gacha but you pay a sub just to access itfucking GRIM
>>575435567I need dorontabi to weigh in on this
>>575435129I'm surprised there's any art being released considering the overall mood
>>575435498>>575431841
>>575435414it would've been much simpler to just add carry-over to the current system and be done with it honestly. that would've been received a lot more positively at leastpeople just don't like big changes like that, especially when they're hidden between obscure mechanics to make it harder for them to understand. so to a lot of people it doesn't really matter if the new system if marginally better under specific conditions or not, they just don't want it to drastically change
>>575435534lmao every time with these guys>"pff I can count cards I'm gonna win on average, simple as">dealer adds another couple of decks to the pile
>>575435498I’m sitting in my kitchen right now eating. Are you retarded or something
>>575435129It's funny how they even tried to whore Iroha out with those ass shots to bait art and it didn't work. Meanwhile Seia was just Seia and got 3x the art lol
>>575435217>BeforeSpend 50 rolls for spark>NowSpend 200 rolls for sparkThat's classic EA monetization
End of Sora
>>575435498I think one part of why they're changing the system for BA is that they're planning the same one for Project RX since it's a mainstream appeal 3D gacha, and they want to avoid comparisons of BA being better.
>>575434768it quite literally will lmaoinstead of having like 80% chance of getting both at 200, you'll only have a 60% chance or whatever it is at 200
>>575435534You didn't understand. The new system is mathematically proved to be better on average. But with it also comes extra flexibility now so people will get MORE GREEDY. Stuff that they would've skipped in the past, they will try now to go for the 50/50 to see if they can get lucky, worse case scenario the pity carries over, but still the end result is that they are engaging more with the gacha instead of always waiting for the 200 saved or not pulling thing. If you don't get greedy and still pull the same as before you'll benefit.
Goodnight, /bag/
>>575435506>Seventeen baits for one fishThat fish is probably not hungry.
>>575435606Not to mention you dont even know how much you spend to run it until it's done. It can get itself all tied up on things and waste tokens for no good reason.
>>575435525yeah I'm sure a controversial update that made most whales want to stop spending will bring in more money. genius
>>575435376same, i'm an all-aroundCHAD
>>575435736>The new system is mathematically proved
it was fun to capture screenshots and post here, hopefully the thread becomes hopeful again.
Always funny how these supposedly angry BA posters suddenly appeared right after the stream and can't stop doomposting using non-BA images, something that never happened before.
>>575435332everyone knew that mannish makoto would flop biggly, that's xey are prefes limited anyway
I’m just glad Iroha got the best swimsuit in the game. Befitting of the perfect woman.
>>575435725Yes because you will only ever roll on a single banner in your life and you are only allowed to spend 200 rolls on that banner, nothing less nothing more
>>575435757Kek, wait really? Never used Clod, but if it really just returns you a bill for the tokens used, that's hilarious.
>>575435331Changes nothing from my post, I had acknowledged it happens already.The point is that losing 50/50s will happen more often than having to double spark.
>>575435637Yeah I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to be the bad guy here and defend the new system since I'm the target audience. This system gives me way more flexibility instead of committing 200 rolls for a specific agents and ruining fest. OR saving for 6 months straight and praying I will get something in spook.>Mine banner rolls around>throw in maybe 20-30 rolls>don't get her>stop and save for fest>after fest, throw in another 20-30 rolls for another student I like>at 60 pity now>still not get her, that's okay>throw in another 20-30 rolls for another banner that I like>get a new student now and save for fes
>>575435502Even in these intense doomposting times Iroha still mindbreaks faggots...I kneel...
> funny how these supposedly angry BA posters suddenly appeared right after the stream where they made the dogshit announcementa real head scratcher innit?
>>575435332I don't know if I'm just coping but I'm hoping it's just the gacha changes dampening the mood and people don't actually dislike the designs.
>>575435816They are also going around to every countries social media and shitposting there as well
>>575435816They always call you a schizo for pointing it out until they all suddenly get acked at the same time. Funny that the trannies think they’re not obvious.
>>575435816Then what if I use ba images to doompost
>>575435871Trinitydev did this. He sabotaged Gehenna volume hype.
>>575435927>>575435927>>575435927>>575435927
>>575435818How's FGO doing, bro?
>>575435856you're dumb as bricks, aren't you?keep slurping, you're exactly the target audience for this change
>>575435818>mannish makotofuck that's a good one
>>575435879>The point is that losing 50/50s will happen more often than having to double spark.Is this supposed some kind of epic gotcha? Because this literally doesn't mean anything
>>575435801The evidence is all around and gets constantly posted, from simulations, to AI, to manually done heavy math. No one that has done their homework here believes it's worse.
>>575435893sure, if that works for you, great. you're the minority, but at least it's useful for someone I guess. just understand that it's really bad for most people, thoughalso claim your Cherino
>>575434787Rape
>>575435816you know what's funny?all those posts and charts that supposedly show new gacha system is betterthey're even bigger nexonshill than /bag/
>>575435448>Deca was the most expensive FES to date>flops>Nexon goes full jewIt was foretold...
>>575435709That kind of retarded, destroy one game to promote another in the same company >Scenario 1: RX is a hit, Nexon only got one big gacha game>Scenario 2: RX is a flop, Nexon got no big gacha gameIf they didn't make the change there would still be one big gacha game on their pocket regardless
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the new gacha system. The mathematics is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of statistics most of the benefits will go over a typical player's head. There's also Nexon's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the system - Nexon's personal philosophy draws heavily from Maurice Falk literature, for instance. The mathematicians understand this stuff; they have the rational capacity to truly appreciate the benefits of averages, to realize that they're not just good- they say something deep about US. As a consequence people who dislike the new gacha system truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the benefits in the new gacha's bonus SSR mechanic.
>>575435989Your whole argument is about double sparking dude, something with a small chance of happening and how that's bad
>>575435736>Stuff that they would've skipped in the pastnothing's going to changepeople already started prioritizing limiteds and skipping permanents since those can just spook you later, and having the pity separate for limiteds and perms will only further incentivize people to not spend a single gem on perms
>>575435129Now THIS is concerning
>>575435212inb4 going back to the original 300 to spark
>>575435129she literally just came out yesterday, dumbfuck
