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TRVE KING edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>575508827

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Space Marines 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday 2
The Outlast Trials
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
Killing Floor 3
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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The planet broke before the guard did.
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>team consists of me (rampage scum)
>blazing piety zealot
>two recon-las veterans
>ok zealot and I can be the frontline and the vets can be the backline who pick off the specials
>drag the team kicking and screaming over the finish line
>the recon las vets have more ranged kills than melee. By a lot.
>the zealot has twice as many special kills as both veterans combined
>I have twice as many special kills as the zealot
FUCK RANGED NIGGERS
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>>575747753
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>>575747497
For me it's
>Spam heavies=horde
>spam lights = elites
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>>575748036
>the recon las vets have more ranged kills than melee. By a lot.
Am I suppose to not be doing this as a vet?
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>>575748454
I miss that weapon
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>>575748695
Literally no one needs you to shoot poxwalkers.
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>>575748334
what in the skibidi...
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>>575748454
>>575748910
>crucis thunderhammer has the same exact moveset as greathammer
>it's really shit and does no damage into hordes
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>>575749173
It hurts, I just wanna use the fucking warhammer
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>>575749173
it hurts man
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>>575749173
Imagine if the thunder hammer was just the great hammer but with a big boom button. I want to blame the entire fucking fucking shroudfield skill. I bet some idiot at fatshart was thinking:
>Oh my bjork, the thunderhammer can sometimes one-shot this monster if the zealot runs a shit build, stacks a bunch of bullshit, and full charges a big swing into the monster out of stealth
>we better tone done the hammer by making it utterly useless outside of that one niche
>meanwhile we're not going to cap the maximum rate of fire on forcestaffs to something reasonable because nobody in the office can manually click particularly fast
>time to eat more surmstruming or whatever our rotten fish dish is called.
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i feel like weapon combos as a whole aren't as big of a thing in darktide compared to ratclick
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>>575749749
That's because the best weapons are button mash attack spam ones that work even with a fucking autoclicker macro.
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I have a rtx 3060 and 5700x, is darktide supposed to run like shit
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Shopclick isn't fun anymore. It's annoying and frustrating. I'm fucking sick of hordeslop especially when devs add cheap, lazy "features" like mobs literally teleporting into blind spots.
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>>575750502
3060 isnt that good of a card anymore but yes, the game runs like shit on everything
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>>575749726
It's doubly insane if you look at the power maul and what that thing can do. Paul used to be shit before the rework though, so maybe there's some hope for THammer yet...?
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>>575750820
It was good when I bought it ...
And what a shame, today my fps went to shit randomly even tho nothing was going on
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>>575751058
Check if raytracing got turned back on.
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>>575751058
yea it still is a good budget lol nothing pc building related is budget anymore card, but it is just a budget card
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>>575750502
It doesn't even run well on a 9800X3D and a RTX4090 with ray tracing off.
Abandon all hope.
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>>575749173
You can almost reach the same feeling with headtaker/slaughterer hammer.
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oh yeah, NMRiH 2 1.0 in two weeks
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/292000/view/713407782495194155
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>daemonhost in a big open area
>easy to go around
>see the ogryn make a mad dash for it shooting it
>proceeds to go down and needs to be revived while fighting it
>later see he has a shield
>he didn't use his shield on the host

Am I missing something here?
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>>575751498
martyrdom or momentum? I want to believe
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>>575751671
whether or not I care is going to depend heavily on what last minute balance tweaks they went with
last I heard they were deleting Teddy Bear from the game, so the bat spam strat is dead
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>>575752864
He's new and/or retarded
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>>575753283
and whether or not there are cute girls and cute clothing added in the customization expansion
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>>575752982
I prefer martyrdom build wise, Inexorable for those that quail in the face of low health.
Works decently well. Brutalizes hordes, knocks around ragers as you kill them, you can light spam your way through a cluster of elites in short order once your damage bonuses stack up, and the energized attacks are saved for the big stuff (or bopping a mutant.)
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>>575751058
yeah, 6 years ago
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Grim
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>>575754404
ty senpai I'll give it a try
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>>575754930
grave even....
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>>575754930
These people die as soon as they don't have a meat shield directly in front of them. It's sad watching them back themselves into a corner while trying to shoot poxwalkers with the electrostaff, no attempt to kite or push the enemies back
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I miss the screams and charred bodies of flamthrower victims in VT2 Darktide is not GRIM enough
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>>575755829
Followers of Nurgle probably don't feel as much pain
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>>575755829
The flamethrower in Darktide seems very underwhelming.
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>>575756119
The flamethrower staff is literally the best weapon in the game by far and the gun is equally good except for its needing ammo.
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>>575756446
Really? I guess I just suck at using the gun.
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Why does vet feel so fucking awful to play? Am I too tired?
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>>575756508
Get the blessing that automatically reloads it when you crit and then just hold m2 and unload it to kill everything in front of you
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>>575756631
he is (likely) the first class ever made for the game
he farts dust
thanks for beta testing
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hosts ragequitting upon mission failure in vermintide is super gay. means i don't even get any exp and it was just a waste of time
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>he brought krak grenades
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>>575756631
I feel the same for ogryn and psyker. I know on psykers part it's just a skill issue but ogryn feels like a slog to play.
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>>575757361
is why you should always be the host for your own matches
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>>575755829
Poxwalkers are mindless zombies, but groaners are sill concious and have no control over their body.
Also, I don't want more useless audio in game when the game sound engine is already struggling at high intensity.
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>>575757361
use the 'Host your own game' mod from the workshop
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>>575757394
as opposed to?

>Shredders
Solid frags, but can't really deal with bigguns immediatly
>Smoke

LOL. KEK. KWAB. WHOSE ACTUALLY BRINGING THAT USELESS CRAP?
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So why do some people immediately leave a match when the go down?
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>>575759513
I think it's a penace thing.

That or just simple rage quit.
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>>575759513
when you're level 30 and have perfect weapons, mission rewards mean nothing to you
better to get into a new mission than wait around for three retards to slowly die
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>>575759513
Because if I lose control, I might unleash my ultimate power. It's for your own safety anon-kun
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waiting years just to maybe get dress up doll bits i like makes me feel like such a retard holy shit
i want camo patterns for badab colors and more cripple legs
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>>575759131
But no, seirously,

Who really uses Smoke Grenades? is there a legitimate use for them I just don't see or is it just the occasional "I just want to use it" build?
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>>575759797
I say it depends on the group. If it's a solid group that does well, or seems to have a good rapport then I stick around.

But if it's full of shitters, then yeah I just quietly leave.
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>>575760678
My use is "I want the cosmetic penances" so you get my custom mission modifier of "it's foggier than usual"
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>give potion to sienna who's level 35 with 2 health and a wound (will die when downed again)
>waiting for them to use it
>waiting
>still waiting
>they down, die
>i ask why they didn't use it
>"i forgot"
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>>575754930
>dragged a 5 wound psyker through the event mission
>he wouldn't drop the ammo crate
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>>575759743
Oh, the beat 10-15 missions without going down? If you leave a mission it doesn't count? Good to know.
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>>575756631
Despite being the "ranged guy" you still need to spend a lot of time in melee and only use your gun for ranged threats. Weapon specialist to switch to your buffed bolter or plasma is fun, bolt pistol is faster and always goated for less ammo capacity, or you play full crit marksman focus shocktrooper (crits with las weapon consumes no ammo) with a recon las or heavy laspistol (my preference) and just click heads and reloading once every couple minutes with a knoife or shovel.
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>>575746995
When are the devs finally going to nerf Inferno Staff?
Or are the devs balancing around Heresy and are unaware of the shit that's happening in havoc 40 lobbies?
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>>575760678
Smoke grenades let you create a wall/bunker which enemies can't draw line of sight through. Mostly useful in Havoc where gunners/stalkers can actually be dangerous, smokes turn them off as well as some specials.
It can be better than the psyker shield against ranged heavy seeds as the smoke lasts its full duration rather than have a health limit, and it compels some enemies to move up into your melee sphere through the smoke.
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>>575761067
I mean sure penaces; but like gameplay wise, what's ONE. ONE useful think a smoke is useful for?
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>>575762695
Blocking gunners and snipers.
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>>575762302
Also useful against the Ranged Karnak captain. Since he is all ranged attacks, slapping a smoke on him basically paralyzes him
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>>575760678
It's good to use when there is lots of gunners and reapers if you smoke yourself or maybe somewhere between you and them to move forward. Nice to have against ventilation snipers. Smoke at chokes or some event totem forces specials have to go into smoke with you as well to initiate their attacks.
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1-4 I reinstall DT
5-9 I buy SM2
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>>575762286
the devs are balancing around havoc 40 and the semen slurping "testers" who give them feedback all use it
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>>575763656
Enjoy anon, make sure you start with fencing weapons until you learn parry timings for attacks
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>>575756631
All of Vet's passive damage resistance comes from being in coherency, if an ally or two are outside your range then you get downed if a poxwalker coughs on you. Essentially a backliner that's going to get forced into melee at some point and if you slip up, he doesn't have the tankyness, evasion or safety cushions that other classes do
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is there any way to see my stats? like my crit chance etc
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>>575764113
>33 of your 113% toughness dr depends on coherency
>constant rolling toughness regen
>toughness on ranged kills
>shovel stagger with perfectly horizontal sweeps and poke
>kick the karking building
If you think veteran is frail you might be bad at games
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>>575765015
Passive, I said. If enough of those happen to not be active then you get fucked
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>>575764113
He does get piss toughness almost whenever he wants though, that or a threat dump to make everything attack someone else
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saltzpyre is so hysterically ugly, i love it. so few games are willing to have a major character look like a spiffing image puppet
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>>575765245
Yes, if you are bad at games and click no heads, kill no specials and elites, throw no grenades, melee no hordes, mark no targets and forget you have an ability at the same time I see how you might feel squishy
But the fault in that situation does not lie in the class
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>>575766357
I think you meant to reply to >>575756631
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>>575751671
Is it still a weird extraction shooter like Hunt Showdown where your character persist between matches?
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>>575766216
he's a 10 in england, I don't know what you're talking about
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>>575766597
No I meant to reply to the dummy who thinks receiving overlapping layers of defense for doing anything useful at a given moment isn't passive enough, yet staying in coherency with your team of headless chickens counts as passive
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>>575766679
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Veteran should get 15% toughness over 3 seconds on a successful dodge.
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>>575772358
Isn't that a Zealot perk?
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>>575766679
the word you were looking for was "permadeath"
does it still have permadeath? yes, yes it does

if the metric for something being an extraction game is
>you go to place
>you do thing
>you try not to die or you lose stuff
>you leave
then extraction games make up the majority of games in existence
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>>575772750
Okay scrap that, how about -25% threat for 2 seconds on successful dodge, stacks twice and decays 1 stack at a time. That probably plays more into veteran shooting things while not making him invincible when he's the last man standing.
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>modders doing fatshark's job again
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What's a good Break the Line build for Arbby?
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I'm gonna fuck you up the ass.
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>>575774453
Forceful keystone, Lone Wolf, apart from that the typical Arby nodes you'd use for most of his builds.
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>>575775071
>Lone Wolf
Oh, is it not viable to use the dog with BtL?
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>>575772819
The act of extraction doesn't define an extraction shooter. Extraction shooters are defined by your insertion into the mission. Particularly the act of risking permanent loss of equipment when you sign up for a mission. In Tarkov, Arc Raiders, Forever Winter, etc, you have the option to bring more and better gear with you into the mission. Better gear might improve your odds of extracting successfully, but if you die then you risk losing it all.

It is that risk that defines an extraction shooter. We may extract at the end of a mission in Darktide and Helldivers, but we don't risk anything to queue up for that mission. Extraction shooters like Tarkov/Arc Raiders/Forever Winter may have free/welfare options to participate with little to no risk, or insurance options to give you an avenue to claw back your equipment, but it is the option to risk bringing and potentially losing better gear that defines an extraction shooter.
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>>575775753
No it's perfectly viable, the attack speed on Lone Wolf just feeds into the damage and impact bonus you get from popping BTL better when used with Hammer of Judgement for a total of 20% attack speed. If the dog feels better to you, feel free to use that instead.
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>>575776218
Ah alright. I usually run Lone Wolf actually but I was told the dog is more useful. Plus I still need to do the penance where I shock/stun 50 monstrosities as arbby so I gotta rework my talent tree. BtL is my favorite ability so I figured i'd ask for advice. Cheers.
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>>575776379
Really recommend changing the setting to order the dog to attack with a single ping rather than double. And he wont attack daemonhosts that you ping if they havent been activated yet (no healthbar).
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>>575776656
Thanks anon. Any other dog advice? I've almost exclusively done Lone Wolf when I play Arbby.
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>>575776956
If you have full charges on dog bomb, you're not blowing your dog often enough
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>>575775971
Minecraft is an extraction shooter by this metric.
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>>575776956
NTA, but here's my opinion on the dog. Although FWIW, I just play aurics rather than dealing with havoc discord tranny drama.

>Usually I explicitly target enemies if I want to position the dog for a dog bomb, or if I want to CC something inconvenient.
>I like "go-get-him" since I feel like arbites is a bit weak vs shooter spam, and I largely let the dog go ham and kill shooters at its own discretion
>I like the talent "Canine Morale" (upon killing pounced target, allies in coherency gain 20% TDR and replenish 10% toughness over 5 seconds)
>In my experience in aurics, that "Canine Morale" talent has something ~50% uptime. The dog is relatively slow at killing elites and specials, but is quick at eating shooters. So my letting the dog rape the shooters it maintains better uptime on the teamwide defensive buff. So I just let the dog do its own thing unless I see something that I need to be pinned or a group that I need to be dog bombed.
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how come i can do auric perfectly fine but spill my beans at maelstorm?
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>>575777403
Minecraft doesn't have distinct missions with start and end points. It is just an endless open world survival.
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>>575777523
It's funny when the dog auto takes down a silent sniper or flamer that was trying to flank you.
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>>575778619
>>575777523
Snipers are one example of something that I might have the dog go kill. If I'm just fucking busy dealing with other stuff, I'll ping the sniper and let the dog go kill it while I focus on staying out of the line of fire. It will take a while since the dog needs to run way the fuck over there, but he'll get the job done.
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>>575777523
Thanks for the advice. About this penance i'm gonna be working towards, do I just have to sick my down on the monstrosity, or do I have to do that and then blow up my dog on them?
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>>575778821
I'll let the other anon answer since I don't give the slightest of fuck about penances. Literally zero fucks. I ignore them completely and only visit Hestia to make the "penance reward" notification go away. I have no clue what the requirements of your penance are.
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>>575777532
A combination of shitters looking for a carry to ASS and failing the DPS check on the higher spawn counts. You need to kill things pretty fast to keep the numbers down and shitters aren't prepared for that.
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>>575778821
Ping the monstrosity so you make sure the dog gets close enough then have him go boom. The shock is enough to stop a spawn or plogryn charge in its tracks so that's nice.
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>>575766216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rndvOeFoa68
Saltzpyre is like someone had the idea of mixing a leather boot with "angry gun-man"
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Why is it that if I don't kill a bomber before he firebombs the field, or any other special before they do their assorted thing, then fucking nobody will kill it? It's like pubbies don't notice the trapper until AFTER somebody is trapped or the flamers until AFTER the ground is ablaze.
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>>575775753
Lone Wolf gives you a LOT of buffs for skipping the dog, you can never un-notice the difference after you try it
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>>575779904
But the dog is 10x faster at responding to me getting pounced than the average pubbie.
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>>575779961
Unironically one of the reasons I still take it lol. Hunting grounds holds no fear for a man and his pup.
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>>575779859
Average pub puppy has very little object permeance. Had to stop using the highlight node of Executioner's Stance simply because teams would suicide themselves chasing shotgunners and ignore the poxwalkers chewing on them that they were just fighting,
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>>575780157
It can be very frustrating sometimes. Like you're sliding toward a group but a few shots land so your toughness is down a bit, but you'll get it back after slicing and dicing the dudes in front of you. Until some cocksucker teammate mag dumps into them before you get to melee range, leaving you hanging.
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Is the Crowbar havoc viable? Running through Auric HISTG going full unga-bunga is fun, but that playstyle gets you instantly hit with an overhead in havocs.
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>>575780575
Yes but not the optimal choice.
Crowbar has two advantages, stagger/control and being able to double tap brittleness in its hook mode for faster application.
Some havoc modifiers can block the stagger, leaving crowbar with less damage and less protection compared to a more mobile weapon like Shivs.
For brittleness, the bonesaw is the better option for Hive Scum as the purple goo mode is a unique brittleness that stacks with normal brittleness.
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A message to pubbies: STOP STANDING IN THE GREEN FART GAS.

That is all.
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how valuable is the talent for volatic emitter that makes you shoot out arcs of lightning? im already trying to spam at 2 stacks for the attack speed buff
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>>575781451
Its nice in big mixed groups but not necessary, skit already has lots of talents to choose from that could deserve the point more. Using your arc maul special on the VE'd group will annihilate them anyway, and flensing gives you attack speed and even more capacitance buildup which feels really good with the maul and gets you charge back quick.
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>>575781369
No.
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>>575779718
This quote is such a good one. He's full of good quotes. I like the one he has where he justifies Sigmar's absence at some points by saying that if shit is so bad on earth, there's no reason to expect things aren't also bad in the heavens. Which does actually make sense (and is also literally what happened)
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>love grail knight gameplay
>much prefer foot knight aesthetics
Part of it is I just think renaissance-esque knights are way more kino than coat-of-plates era knights
and I don't like that kruber is mean to salty when it's active :(
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>>575783440
peasant
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>>575783440
That bit with him talking down to Saltz always struck me as weird since up until that point I always thought that there was a lot of respect between the two of them. Then there was this set of lines from Dark Omens.

>Saltzpyre: Shall I die, Kruber. I want you to have my sword of office.
>Kruber: ...Uhh why? So people think i'm a Witch Hunter?
>Saltzpyre: No...So that people think that I liked you.
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>>575784009
it's not an insult, it's just that Saltz doesn't think Krubah got the grit to be a witch hunter
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>>575784009
That line is much worse if you play grail knight, because Kruber goes "I already have a cooler sword lol", very dismissive feeling
>>575784242
Nah he suggests to Kruber in the keep that he can sign him up to be a witch hunter really quickly now that he's captain
>Tell me, Kruber. Have you considered striving for the Order?
>Me? Become a templar? A witch hunter?
>I believe you have the fortitude for that path. As a Captain, I can sign you up with a minimum of procedure and paperwork.
>That's very good of you, sir. But I don't want to make plans just yet.
>Spoken like a true servant of Sigmar. The task at hand is often the most important.
>Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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>>575784009
The line about the sword of office was never about an insult. It was about him wanting to honor his friend.

Fuck, now that I'm trying to remember, I think that there's a grail knight variant of that interaction where Kruber says some shit like
>Sir, I already have a better sword you know.
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>NOOOOO KRUBAH DO NOT BATHE
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If I could blacklist every flamestaff and smite pskyer from all of my teams forever, then I'd be happy.
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I hope you are never happy
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>>575785418
well I NEVER
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>>575773263
>current year party finder is automatic decline mods fighting automatic apply mods
I guess consolefags lose
For real though nobody will use this shit because you will inevitably join a console host every time
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Are you experiencing low texture resolution issues with enemies and objects while playing the game?
If so, please write:
1) GPU
2) CPU
3) RAM
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>>575786185
remove the portrait in the settings; gives a few fps also make sure ray tracing is disabled
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>>575786185
Yeah I've been noticing it all month.

1) 3080
2) i7
3) 64gb ddr4
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>>575751671
I had no idea anyone gave a shit.
First game is great though.
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>>575785418
I hope that you learn how to fight without crutches.
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>>575786185
7800x3d
6700xt
64gb ddr5 6000 cl30
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>>575786946
You're not really good at the game until you can play it on a gamepad with your tongue, both hands tied behind your back, one eye put out with a fork and two underpriveleged african youths yapping away on each side of you.
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>>575786185
I don't have this issue because I never update nvidia drivers unless something breaks so they're like 4 years old kek
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>>575783440
Merc dabs on both.
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>>575783440
I wish WHF got some kind of adaptation already
>>575784009
>guy has his hand on the pommel while Kruber doesn’t
Minor but probably an important aspect
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>>575786185
2070 Super 8gb
Ryzen 7 5800x
32gb DDR4
It's definitely been an issue since Skittle released. My assumption is that the VRAM is getting filled up with garbage like duplicate weapon icons and the game never clears it out.
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>>575766216
Is that really true
Feels like women these days in games aren’t far off
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>>575785990
Console hosts are busy being below h40
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>>575762779
Wait it works on him too? That’s actually kind of busted then. Good to know.
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>>575789918
I'm going to post the other two that I have.
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>>575789918
>>575784009
>>575790413
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Smite should have "ammo" that regenerates like assail. Fuck smiggers.
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>>575784009
I kinda want a weapon in Darktide that has the same blocking mechanic as the Bretonnian Longsword. Maybe Ogryn power gloves could work?
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>>575790934
I'm all for more weapons, but IMO the vibe of the block while charging a heavy mechanic was supposed to demonstrate finesse and mastery of swordsmanship, which doesn't really much with the brutish attack of ogryns.

As a whole though I think that we need more 2H weapons across the board. More weapons where we are deliberately making each strike instead of the retarded dominance of autoclicker toothpicks with 9000 dps.
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>>575789967
>It's definitely been an issue since Skittle released
This problem is over a year old
> My assumption is that the VRAM is getting filled up with garbage like duplicate weapon icons and the game never clears it out.
The problem is with their fucking engine, which is overflowing and not unloading garbage. The game doesn't fully use my 12GB.
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>>575790790
Just don't protect smiggers, don't cover them, move on through the level without them, don't kill smigged targets, they'll get the picture eventually.
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>>575789918
>I wish WHF got some kind of adaptation already
doesn't it already have a good few? like vermintide
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>auric maelstrom
>True Survivor psyker
>knife + Inferno staff
>speedrunning
How can you live like this?
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>>575792216
>puff staff into mobs
>swap to knife, sprint heavy attack, slide, swap mid-slide, go back to staffing
>rinse repeat
>zoom around the entire level staffing shit dead
It's pretty fun actually.
>speedrunning
Maybe stop farming spawn doors and helping the retard that goes down every 30 seconds and you won't lag behind.
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>snow map
>retard shoots the barrel next to me on purpose, sending me into the void
>look steam profile
>it's a slavgroid
of course
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>>575792304
Nigger, there's a difference between advancing fast in the level and just puffign at everything while sprinting leaving the rest of the team to deal with your shit. I can tell you're a fuckign Slav with that snownigger mentality
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>the mutant goes out of his way to grab the guy who runs off by himself
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>>575792518
I just have to assume malicious ignorance every time some retard mentions speedrunning.
Even now, I imagine you're lagging behind "defending the rear" against a dozen poxwalkers that you are supposed to push and just run away from while the psyker kills all of the static elites already spawned on the map.
I'd bet money that you don't use a scoreboard either, because players like the psyker humiliate you every single time.
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>>575792598
>scoreboard
>he uses cheats
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>spawn in to a ongoing mission
>see nothing but crusher belly
>can't move, totally sandwiched in
>get netted after 1 second of sniffing carapace
>become an anvil
Thanks fartshart, very cool.
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>>575792216
>speedrunning
Keep up slowpoke.
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>>575792718
Hit the nail on the head, it seems.
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>>575792598
>argument online
>instantly mentio nthe scoreboard
Yep, a slavgroid
Everytime
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>>575792849
I like how your screeching meltdown just confirms that you got humiliated by the psyker.
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Why are slavs so inclined to cheat in multiplayer games anyway?
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SCOOOOREBOOAAAAAAARD


SCOOOOOOOOOOOREBOAAAAARD


WHY WON'T YOU LOOK AT MY SCOOOOOOOOOOREBOAAAAAARD
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lmao that sure triggered the anti-scoreboard trannies
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>>575792939
Asian genes
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for the shield gun combo, do you go unyielding maniac?
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>>575792909
>haha I won the argument becasue I'm saying you're seething!
>no no don't fight back I said I won and you're crying!

Can someone explains that Slav strategy to me? is that how they plan to win in Ukraine? by pretending? kek
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>>575749726
>I want to blame the entire fucking fucking shroudfield skill
Thunder hammers don't suck because of shroudfield, the weapons already sucked dick even around at launch.

The actual reason why thunder hammer sucks is because of the weapon special, that's the reason.
The devs see that you can almost delete a crusher with 1 powered hit, and think that extremely strong, so as a way to "balance" the weapon, they make it complete dogshit in every other way. Like horde clear
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>>575792989
Aren't trannies usually the ones to cheat in multiplayer video games however?
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>>575793037
>screeching about slavs unprompted in every single post you make
I guess some slav must've really, really bruised your ego something bad, but I'm no snownigger, and I'm not the one making typos out of sheer butthurt >>575792849
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>>575792939
it's a mix of asian-african mentality, the Slavgroid (from poland to eastern russia) is a low-life creature with a low IQ but a high sense of pride. It will cheat and pretend to have the high ground because they have that need to feel relevant and claim to belong to the human race
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>>575792047
I wonder if he meant age of smegma.
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>>575793306
overhated desu
modern 40k lore is worse than it (darktide is an exception for not focusing on SHITmarchs and SLOPmarines)
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Total Slavgroid Death, they ruined the EU server.
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Bringing psyker down a few pegs.
>emphatic evasion
triggers on MELEE crits
>kinetic flayer
triggers on MELEE damage
>perilous combustion
4 second internal cooldown
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>>575793496
Oh yeah, flame staff puff. Can only stagger once every 4 seconds.
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>>575793496
Kinetic flayer is not very good without Perilous Combustion.
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>>575784009
>>575790413
>>575790524
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>>575793496
>take thing that is strong
>make it useless actually
Fatshark should hire you, your ideas are approximately retarded enough.
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>>575793361
Slavs are hella retarded but so are the turks, french, swedes and finns
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>>575793496
That perilous combustion nerf is really stupid. It'd hurt the builds on which it is the least egregious (everything not flame staff) the most and the build on which it is the most egregious (flame staff) the least.
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>>575793884
Perilous combustion is stupid by itself anytime that there is any kind of grouping of elites. Patrols basically get deleted just for the pysker existing.
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>>575793884
Anon he's posting bait
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>>575794047
Psyker unironically needs to be brought in line though.
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>>575794104
It is in line
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>>575793996
It literally makes melee psyker at all worth having against packs of maulers and ragers, otherwise it's just straight up worse than classes with more stagger and/or cleave.
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Curios should have a blessing slot that lets you put mortis indulgences on them
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>>575793361
>>575793860
You know what, scratch that, you're right. Slavs are beyond retarded, way worse than anyone else. Pure filth is what they are. Dysfunctional, backstabbing, selfish, inpatient alcoholics with zero talents or redeeming qualities. Whenever I run into some dumb fuck scoreboard whore with main character syndrome who can't even do that right and ends up dogged or netted two rooms away from everyone else, it's usually some ruski rat playing HS or knife zealot. I hope Putin starts drafting their neets and retards still shitting up our european lobbies. I'd rather play exclusively with Mexicans and Chinese for the rest of my life than have another useless russian cunt on my team
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>>575793860
Yes. Germans as well
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Is high level scum pretty much just chem or dual pistols? I kinda like how chunky the crowbar is but I can recognise it probably has absolutely no place in havoc and shit when the saw and the chem gun just do everything so well
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>>575794597
they also got that diva trait for some reason
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new bug: in the smelter map there's a flame constantly in front of my face
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>>575794787
I know for a fact that a mod is doing this because I had the same issue and had to patch it out.
Try disabling the veil_shield mod, I think it's that one.
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>>575794890
will try in a min
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>>575794674
Axe scum is best scum. Rashad mk3. The needle gun is good but gay. No impact, lame sound, total ass faggotry. Feels worse than an airsoft gun. No one would use it if it wasn't for the gross stats
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>>575794674
Bonesaw is the fat lazy retard's havoc approved pick, the shivs are the best weapon if you're an autist with too much energy.
Needle gun is the strongest ranged pick in general, the double deagles are a bit better in their immediacy for specialist kills.
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>>575794674
You can play melee scoom with pretty much any weapon you want, it's just that good: all three kinds of axes, shivs, knife, saw, even dclaw and heavy sword lol
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>>575794890
thank you it was veil indeed
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>>575795161
>>575795132
>>575795007
From the absence of crowbar in these answers, I take it that it is in fact pretty shit
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>>575795228
Yeah, it's a weak pick. I kind of have the same problem as you do, I really prefer melees with slow big hits, and scum really isn't built for that.
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>>575793860
Slav wrote this post.
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Sink all of europe and its "people" into the sea
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>>575793496
Nerfing emphatig evasion is fine. Rest is meh, instead just kneecap the flamestaff by making it so it can only apply 10 stacks of soulblaze onto any enemy.
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MK IV or MK XII for the chain axe?
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>>575795651
For hives cum?

Mk 12
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>>575795856
I guess in general, it's one of my favorite melee weapons. I mainly play vet or scum.
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>>575795934
Mk 4 for vet and mk 12 for scum
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>>575795651
I use the one with the lights that get stuck on the enemies because It feels cool and you shred the captain bosses shields
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>>575795651
Is chain axe viable these days? I havent played since arbites release
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>>575796220
Barely.
It's vaguely acceptable on zealot with FotF but underwhelming nevertheless.
It's very specifically good on melee scum. One of the better weapons, assuming you staminamaxx and only make light attacks.
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>>575796220
The mk 4 is the popular one and it's just mediocre. It's cool, brutal, it's satisfying to demolish elites with light attacls and admittedly does have great captain shield damage so it has a few serious fans, but the truth is that its flaws brings it down to just being mediocre
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>>575796298
>>575796531
I really want to use bloodletter to put ten billion bleed stacks on monsters, but the fucking thing is so anemic that it practically needs slaughterer+headtaker to keep its head above water.
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>>575796298
>>575796531
Any hope for us one day getting 2h chaxes is marred by how shit swiggers are at being timely with content and making said content fun
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>>575796593
Total meme. The only good monster killing chain weapon is the eviscerator
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>>575796707
Some data miners seem doubtful

I can't think of a class that would make good use of it except the arbites and the arbites most likely wouldn't even get it
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>>575796707
>>575796963
The next and final DLC class beastman will come with a two-handed axe weapon.
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>>575797102
I wouldn't mind another big, heavy hitter class
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>>575797219
>doesn't get nerfed like the ogryb
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>>575797305
The ogryn is stronger now than ever
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>>575797219
Me neither. The way I see it the dps role is oversaturated right now and there aren't enough people playing frontline bruisers.
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>>575797415
I'd kill for a proper clone of Reinhart. Loved being a slow bullet sponge that wasn't hindering allies
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>>575795446
It's good enough, I didn't mention it because you already did
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>>575797415
>>575797479
There are strangely few people playing the arbites effectively as a frontliner even in non-havocs
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>>575797370
Yeah, when you play it as a literal cannon. Maybe I'm taking crazy pills but I feel like the focus should be more on the club swinging, rock throwing meathead retard class fantasy.
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>>575797567
was meant for
>>575795446
oof
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>>575797691
The light attack bleed stack nerf is the only real melee nerf that is still being felt
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>>575797219
Not-slayer bolter bitch with assault pack leap.
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>>575797876
didn't they make sure the heavy pick wouldn't one shot a crusher
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>>575797219
I could see next being some kind of support/special assassin. So far each DLC sort of mirrored a base class
>Vet/Skit for ranged specialist
>Zealot/Scum for melee specialist
>Ogryn/Arbites for bruiser/tank
So I assume whatever is next will be a psyker parallel
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>>575798154
The crushers got buffed so no class could kill them too quickly
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Sobbers are probably the best candidates for the 2 handed martial weapon role and that's exactly what i want at this point
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>>575798215
This analysis is too one-dimensional to reflect reality. None of the classes are accurately described by a single trait.
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>>575798672
Veteran is accurately described by the single trait of being shit.
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>>575798154
Crushers got their HP literally doubled, doubt it's just because of pick
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>>575798780
It's shit when you're a retarded shitter who can't survive as a vet
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>>575798215
>Vet/Skit ranged specialist
You forgot that released Scum had unlimited ammo before Fatshark nerfed pickpocket.
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>>575799232
If a class needs disproportionate skill and effort just to survive, much less contribute as much as the other classes, it is a shit class.
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>zombie enemy in vermintide 2 exists as cut content
>skeletons are enemies now
>castle drachenfels (necromancer's castle (with enemy spawners that are literally coffins)) is a map
>no skeleton/zombie enemies used on these maps
The depths of swede stupidity never ceases to amaze. Reskin chaos warriors for undead knights and boom
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>>575798672
Zealot is absolutely a melee class. He only has 5 ranged talents in the entire tree and all of them are shit tier.
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>>575786581
>>575786185
>>575786456
>>575789967
I've been having choppy/stuttery animations. Very noticeable on large, low refresh rate monitors and LTE but still happens sometimes on a 240hz built-in screen when connected to a landline with low jitter

has anybody else experienced this? the game used to run more smoothly for me without changing any settings and regardless of mods.
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>>575799332
Nothing about the class makes you feel compelled to play it like a melee frontliner. The surest sign of being a shitter is if you keep going down when you're playing a vet
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>>575799471
That's a good point, this makes comparing him to scum a strange choice seeing how a third of that class is dedicated to using your guns to solve most problems. Another conflict is that zealot is infinitely more durable than scum, who is instead way more evasive. One could argue that scum is more aptly an analogue to the psyker.
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>>575799695
Yes. The scum was the ballistic, non-magical psyker class

Psyker and scum
Ogryn and arbites
The skitarii plays most similarly to the vet

Hopefully that means we're getting a zealot-like class
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>>575799690
>Nothing about the class makes you feel compelled to play it like a melee frontliner
Not being a "melee frontliner" is a luxury for teams of only competent players on low enough difficulties that the game isn't swarming you with waves of enemies from every direction.
>The surest sign of being a shitter is if you keep going down when you're playing a vet
It is the easiest class to go down as out of all of them, he is the weakest class. I suppose you somehow think not dying as arbites is harder than veteran.
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>>575800182
I very rarely go down as a vet because i'm not retarded enough to play it like i play the arbites. The psyker also goes down more easily than the arbites but you'd have to be a fucking spastic to think to think the arbites is stronger
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>>575800342
>The psyker also goes down more easily than the arbites
But not more easily than veteran.
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>>575800423
Turns out the vet's strength is in the high damage and good support and not in its survivability. Survivability is good, but that doesn't make you want to bring the arbites to havoc 40
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No class has a better mix of survivability, damage and support than the ogryn
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Uh-oh! Vetsissy made a stinky in his diapies!
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Vetchads can't lose because their opposition is a bunch of retarded shitters that post gut-wrenching cringe like this >>575801263
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>no havoc lobbies cause middle of day
>all joiners to mine are some 20s shitters
>decide to go do an auric to pass time
>consignment yard where you jump down to the manufacturing area and cant go back up
>rest of my team maybe 5 meters behind me
>jump down
>one of them goes down to like one fucking mauler that was behind me
>2nd goes down
>3rd goes down
>try getting an angle so i could revive one with my servo skull but cant
>picrel in chat
my fault for forgetting that PS faggots are literal shit for brains animals
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>>575800605
>Turns out the vet's strength is in the high damage and good support
Most other classes can provide high damage and support.
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>>575801487
He was sorely disappointed to see that he didn't get as carried as he thought he would be
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>Arbites
>Combat shotty + shield and mace
>Aquila + dog
Oh yeah, this is a power fantasy alright
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>>575801487
>>575801617
This is why you never use orange titles in quickplay.
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Retarded shitters think the vet is the worst class because retarded shitters get beaten to death by poxwalkers while they got their ranged weapon out

Good players know that the arbites is the worst class because good players aren't dying anyway and know other classes bring better support and damage
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There is no worst class, anyone who thinks there is a worst class is just a shitter self reporting the one they can't play.
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>>575802031
Most retarded arbitranny post yet
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>>575802073
Self report.
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>>575802136
Shitters like you don't get to make statements about class strength or player skill
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If supposedly not Vet, what would be the worst class in Darktide and why?
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>>575802031
There are characters that objectively bring much less to a team than others. The posterboy being veteran imo. At least arbites can stunlock an entire horde even better than ogryn
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>>575802583
hive scum because the skill floor is so damn high, or arbites because they don't really do anything well besides stagger and have shit for damage
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>>575802583
It was settled a long time ago, it's the arbites

It doesn't have enough damage or support at the highest level of play. Either you do the damage or you support the classes that do the damage
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>>575762192
> or you play full crit marksman focus shocktrooper (crits with las weapon consumes no ammo) with a recon las
That's exactly how I was trying to play, complete with shout for on-demand piss toughness, but it just wasn't working at all for me.
>>575759513
Usually when I do this, it's a rage quit. Often nothing personal. I just don't want to continue the mission because something pissed me off, usually multiple poxwalkers or a silent mauler/crusher teleporting into my ass or me getting chain disabled by trappers/hounds/mutants or me getting netted by a trapper through a literal wall.
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>>575802583
Arbites.
Veteran is a class that is extremely easy to die as but can do things, arbites is a class that is extremely hard to die as but can't do much.
The veteran struggles to help because he is dead, the arbites struggles to help because he can't. It's like having a corpse on your team versus having a mannequin on your team.
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>>575802583
Would easily be zealot if arbites didn't exist
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>>575763791
Wouldn't fencing weapons make it harder to learn timings by making them too forgiving?
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>>575802590
Lmao. No
The ogryn is a much better brittleness and skullcrusher applier and brings taunt and the rumbler. The arbites might be more shitter friendly but shitters don't decide what's good
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Is bleed good for grenade launcher? 4 bleed for all enemies in explosien seems a lot
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>>575749173
What the FUCK were they thinking with that dogshit ap damage in lights. When they had a perfectly working system in vt2 hammer.
Two different hammers in fact
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>>575803130
It is if you want a little more monster damage
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>>575803164
They think the special and access to thunderous is just so good that it justifies the lack of damage
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Just returning to the game after a couple years i see everyone is using paul on ogryn again. I however distinctly remember there was no cooldown between special attacks? you could just spam the thing and now you have to wait 10 seconds or something for it to recharge. On high difficulties that's an eternity. How is this one of the more recommended weapons? Feels like they gutted it but i could be misremembering and it always had the cooldown
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>>575802326
You can't figure out how to play arbites, there's only a little to be ashamed of
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How would (you) fix arbites?
I love the class in how it feels to play, but its pretty anemic in capability. I really think dog needs better utility, 99% of the time when you sic it on a specialist, anyone else in your team has dealt with it and it feels wrong to go lone wolf
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>>575802690
>because the skill floor is so damn high
it takes like 10 games to figure it out. just get your ult up and stay in your ult until everything is dead.
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>>575803760
after seeing what the skull is capable of the dog just feels worthless. I guess you can do the ping pong thing where you keep tagging elites on opposites sides of a horde and knockings the whole thing down repeatedly but that's too many inputs for your average shitter
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>>575803760
Why do all his characters have such tiny heads.
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>>575803503
I can tell that my argument was effective by the fact that you're just repeating it back at me with the classes reversed instead of pretending like you are capable of refuting me

This might have worked if i wasn't smarter than you
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>>575803919
You don't deserve a serious response because you can't figure out how to play arbites, the most newbie friendly class in the game. Didn't read the rest.
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>>575803760
2 dogs that can both trigger all the dog related buffs and debuffs
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>>575804000
>Didn't read the rest.
Eyes were too full of tears after the first line, no doubt. That ought to teach you a lesson about not getting yourself into arguments that you are too retarded and brown to win
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What's the fastest way to level a brand new character to 30? Does the campaign give more XP?
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>>575804194
BOOM. mic drop
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>>575804194
Pathetic. Here's a serious response.

There is no worst class because all the classes are overtuned for every difficulty, they have one weak point each which is a trivial puzzle to solve. In the Arbites case, it's figuring out how to deal damage, which you cannot do. Thus you are a shitter who does not understand the game.
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>>575803760
>How would (you) fix arbites?
Reverse some of the dog nerfs.
Also entirely rework UB and GGE in the middle section of the tree, they are worthless pieces of shit that just brick your build if you choose either of them.
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>>575803207
Isn't it a direct upgrade to damage against all targets?
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>>575804064
And one of the dogs can revive downed teammates
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You know the kind of retards who always say "either 0 or 100%" without a hint of irony when you ask them about the odds of something happening?

This >>575804393 spasticated turdgolem is one of those "people" and this is what they consider an intelligent response to the question of which class is the strongest
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>>575804725
Not of those targets have flak or carapace armor and you just sacrificed your brittleness for bleed
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>>575804963
>the elf in question
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Think fagshark will change lasguns to fit GWs latest retard retcon?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/
>tl:dr lasguns shoot yellow bolts instead of the iconic red beam
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>>575804868
damn dude. go easy on him
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>>575786185
I was but it wasn't because of any of those components, it was that I accidentally reinstalled it on an HDD, it went away after I moved it to an SSD.
RTX4090
9800X3D
128GB DDR5
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>>575804868
fucking bodied that shitbag
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hey coopg
are there meltaguns in shopclick yet
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>>575805098
I will riot if they do.
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>>575804393
niggas will say literally anything except admit that they were wrong
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>>575805581
no
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>>575762119
That one resets when you go down, it's the "finish 10 aurics/5 maelstroms without dying" ones that people scum by quitting as soon as they go down, since those only reset your progress once you die for real.
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>>575805773
aw man
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SoB bitches be putting they meltas on low and blow dryin they hair
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>>575805847
They might finally be added if we get sororitas as the next DLC class.
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>>575805581
no
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>>575805098
They didn't when they put the skull probe out, so they won't going forward unless GW pitches a fit about consistency.
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When are the havoc modifiers rotating again?
I want this piece of shit blight gone, it's pure cancer.
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>>575806105
There are lower difficulties for people like you
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>>575805847
>helldivers 2 gets meltaguns before darktide(which released two years before helldivers 2)
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>>575805098
>retcon
looks pretty consistent with the art
>but dawn of war-
got it wrong
the problem is the wrong way looked better
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>>575806191
Star Wars lasers are gay.
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>kill feed is bugged if you disabled corpse ragdoll
Nice job Fartshart
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>>575806191
What about the piss beams relic switched them to in dow 2?
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SNARING LOYALISTS!
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>>575806191
>got it wrong
This is how lasguns were described eight years before dawn of war.
The art got it wrong, the same way it got bolters wrong since the beginning.
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>>575806191
dawn of war, space marine, and darktide are all officially licensed 40k products. They are by definition canon. They didn't get it wrong. They improved upon the old art from the 80s and 90s. If we are to go by art it seems like most weapons don't fire projectiles at all. It's mostly muzzle flashes with nothing in the air. With few exceptions.

>>575805098
The Noospheric skull answers your question. Fatshark did get forced to use a yellow color, but they were able to keep the beam.
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bro the 40k thing for helldivers looks like fuckin ass lmao
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These helmets look so goofy.
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>>575806610
>the same way it got bolters wrong since the beginning.
how so?
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>>575806526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdarDTpmv0

she is just having fun
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>>575806674
Too soulful for you?
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>>575806105
I've been making green lemonade out of blighted lemons by playing skitarius with ablative wards into blight spreads missions. With a zealot on the team you become literally immune to corruption as long as the beacon aura is nearby.
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>>575806616
>from the 80s and 90s
this art is from like 2003
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>>575806783
Very early art tended to represent bolter muzzle flash as 15 foot beams.
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>>575806958
Even this one is showing a beam being fired
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>>575802983
If you want to learn the hardest timing immediately sure I guess, but the game isnt very fun when you're dying all the time because of missed parries imo
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>>575806191
I distinctly remember DoW using yellow-ish white beams. Or maybe I'm thinking of Gladius.
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>>575806958
Yes and as you can see, there is no projectile or missile or bolt of light in the air. It's just a muzzle flash with nothing in the air. So if this is supposed to be the standard, then lasguns would only have a muzzle flash and nothing else.
I don't understand why we arbitrarily pick specific art pieces by specific artists to be the end all be all of art direction. Especially when even earlier canon say it's a beam of light, like this >>575806610
Meaning, that art piece you posted from 2003 is wrong.
But I don't care what's right and wrong. I only care about what looks best. And beams simply look better, that's why I want them.
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>Helldivers 2 got a meltagun before Darktide
>Helldivers 2 got a hot-shot las before Darktide
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>>575807426
Fatshark has until august 12 to quickly slip one in before anyone can notice
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>>575807290
DoW1 uses red.
DoW2 uses yellow/orange.
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>>575807506
They'll still be on vacation around that time.
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>>575807426
Spoken like someone who's never dealt with Helldivers 2's bullshit. By all metrics the odds of this wh40k collab not being deeply disappointing pieces of poop are astronomically low.
Like, in terms of Darktide powerscaling imagine getting vigilant autoguns as the shiny new toy in the current state of the game and the devs never make them any less crappy.
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>>575807426
Fatshark is comprised of the laziest members of the laziest race on earth(swedes).
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>>575808109
i'm ngl the whole bond looks boring and i can't tell if it's because it's shit or if it's because i;m so beyond bored with the game itself
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>>575808128
guess where Arrowhead Studios are
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>>575808561
I know where.
Reread the post you responded to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j-SpRxhHo

Thank god it looks like shit.
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>>575808656
Then you don't make sense. Oh well, you're retarded, nevermind lol move along.
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>>575808701
hahahha ohn onononono
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>>575808701
wtf that genuenly looks like ass lol
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>>575808807
Swedes are the laziest.
Fatshark are the laziest swedes.
Arrowhead is not fatshark.
Retard.
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How do you guys slide? I sprint forwards and crouch but some players seem to be in a state where they play normally but are in a constant slide. How do you do that?
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>>575809250
Learn English, Pedro.
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>>575809315
If they're sliding forwards without seemingly sprinting, it's because they've got a macro set up or their button timing is just that good. Side and back sliding is done by hitting and holding crouch while in the middle of a dodge.
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>>575794597
the Chinese are worse imo but yeah theyre both pretty bad
>>575805902
best post in months
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>>575809325
Go on and explain which part was grammatically incorrect.
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Remove sliding from the game.
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>>575809583
This but unironicallalalaallyly
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>>575809583
Remove dildo from your asshole
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>>575809583
>he doesn't like sliding into the safe room
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Remove autism from the game
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Reddit is asking to nerf the new shield enemies again are they right? I personally barely notice them in the middle of waves nowadays
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>>575806674
>we have space marines at home
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>>575809315
Do you have a video clip of what you're describing?
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>>575806807
I fucking wish people would bring zealot but they don't.
I hate these retards. I just want to get back to H40 in my own assignment, fuck.
And no, I refuse to host, because I refuse to get mods, I refuse to fix these swedish niggers retarded game design, using mods to fix it is just giving these swedish cunts a free pass on dogshit game design.
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>>575810046
they could do with being a bit more fragile behind the shield, they still have near rager levels of hp it feels like
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I feel like playing darktide again. But I would like a sororitas anon (zealot with white hair) for company and back-up
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>>575810105
Stop punishing yourself out of spite for someone else, that doesn't make any sense.
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Which is the weakest monoclass party and which is the strongest?
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>>575803760
add a D.O.G/OB/GYN talent that lets your dog impregnate your female arbitrator and then help her give birth to a half-human-half-dog baby
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>>575810226
>posting terrible ai sloppa sisters instead of any of the thousands of actual pieces of art of them
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>>575810109
>they still have near rager levels of hp it feels like
Because they do.
The dreg vanguard has like 1625 HP and scab vanguard has 2125 HP
Both still take reduced damage from headshots from some retarded fucking reason.
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>>575810291
All vets, because they'll get stuck doing rock paper scissors or drawing straws to see who leads
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>>575810492
Have vanguards even been added to the psykhanium yet for testing?
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>>575809975
I will not be removed.
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>>575810678
no
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>>575810826
SWEDEEEEEEEEN!!!
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>>575810451
Should have looked closer at the thumbnail, not sure why I even have it saved. Guess it slipped by
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>helldivers 2 got hotshot las before darktide did
>helldivers 2 got the meltagun before darktide did
>it's even a lore accurate anti tank beam instead of the titus fire fart
darksisters...it's so over...
https://youtu.be/h-j-SpRxhHo
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>>575811382
melta's are one of the most inconsistent things in the written lore and in depictions in games and animations
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>>575811887
What they do however is pretty explicitly stated and they definitely don't do it in the space marine games.
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>>575811887
uhm different builds of meltas sweetie, some go SWOOOSH some go BEEEEEEEEEAM some go OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOARUGH
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>>575811382
That’s a knock against SM too though
>>575809583
Nah
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>>575806674
they added chud grifter skins to darktide?
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>>575806634
>>575808109
Can’t say I’m surprised. They seem to phoning it in more and more lately. Guess it’s just the curse of the Swede at this point.
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>>575812653
It's Norik, actually
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>>575806674
We Zurg now.
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Hdg back to coop before the end of the year
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>>575811887
if darktide EVER gets a meltagun, it should have two different firing modes, straight beam for single target and aoe fire "shotgun" shot for horde clear, it would make me super happy
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>>575807630
pretty sure they will be already back at that time no? at best we will get the skiitary fixes/changes they mentioned in the last patch notes... hopefully
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Ogryn feels like shit to play
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>>575815339
Melee ogryn is in dire straits.
>have only 2 viable side arms, rumbler and GG
>most melee weapons suck
>your choices are either HH or FNP
>if you take HH you are very fragile and can't tank that well
>if you take FNP you can take well but your melee does fuck all damage
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>>575815339
Ogryn should be doing a lot more damage in melee baseline. There really shouldn't ever be a case where it takes more than one swipe to bodily wreck fodder with an ogryn weapon.
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>helldivers got the meltagun and hotshot lasgun before darktide
Kekaroo
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>>575816621
What's the bet all those weapons feel bad to use?
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>>575816725
That's what the +20 Weapon Handling on the armor is for.
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>>575809583
>Me about Warframe, circa 2013
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>running malice missions to farm grims
>ogryn gets netted in the first area
>immediately gets on mic to complain about me "rushing"
>literally fighting in the same room as him just in a different corner
>get to the mid event where we have to scan 5 bodies or whatever
>gets on mic again to say "yeah guys he's just going to rush ahead and put all this on us again"
>on the mid event
>where basic shitter enemies and basically nothing else spawns
i just called him slow and retarded because holy fuck even for an ogryn player that was a stupid fucking interaction. Maybe learn to dodge a trapper net.
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>>575816725
>>575816962
Doesn’t goyim’s workshop mandate any collab with 40k make the things powerful or something?
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>>575817615
>not doing grims on auric
Pussy!
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>>575817619
I don't think they're going that far with their representation stipulations.
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>>575816725
>hotshot las
decent chance
>bolt pistol
there's already a revolver that pens tank armor so they'll probably do that again here too, issue is that ever secondary is competing with pocket GL for dealing with structures and pocket nuke for dealing with everything
>melta
It's the lascannon except with a close range stipulation. If that means it does more damage than lascannon then we're in fucking business. I'd look to the ammo count on this one being its point of failure, because giving it unlimited ammo so long as you don't overheat like a las weapon seems unlikely, and it's backpackless, so they're going to try to gimp it somehow. If they don't gimp it, then it'll be an extremely strong pick for backpack loadouts.
>meltamine
Competing in this slot with thermites and gigagrenade. Will it be a guaranteed heavy enemy kill? Almost certainly, but so are those. Will anyone actually set these down in the hope that a heavy eventually walks over it? No, not a fucking chance. So that leaves throwing them at point blank range which will be awkward. They'd need to multikill heavies for anyone to care enough, and be able to be detonated by being shot so they can be used against structures.
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>>575817619
If this was true then Thunder Hammer wouldn't be dogshit in Darktide.
Same goes for ogryn.
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>>575817619
Not a clue. But assumption are the Hot-Shot will have Heavy Infantry-grade penetration and the Meltagun will have Anti-Tank-grade penetration. which is kind of obvious but there you go.
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>>575817746
usually auric retards won't ever grab the second grim and will try and kick you if you pick up even one. 3/5 times i'll have some other decent player willing to hold the second grim for me on malice.
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>>575789918
>I wish WHF got some kind of adaptation already

Total War: Warhammer is THE best adaptation of fantasy you're ever going to get. The popularity of that game and vermintide are why The Old World is a thing.
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>>575817787
>Lure Mine
AP 5, Demo 30, 1000 Damage
>Giga Grenade
AP 5, Demo 40, 2000 Damage
>Thermite Grenade
AP 7, Demo 30, 2000 Damage + 150/s Fire

The meltamine either needs to Demo 50 or have significant higher damage than the Giga Grenade to be viable, since you can likely only deploy it as far as the Lure Mine.
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>>575816621
You think this is a small teaser for Darktide as to what weapons we might be getting in the september update?
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What's the best team composition to run arby in?
Vet, psyker, zealot?
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>>575816621
>true grit
True grit?
TRUE GRIT?
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>>575818717
Yeah.
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>>575818825
Kek when I saw It all I could think was about all the schizo arguments here
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>>575818825
More like True Shit!
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>>575817868
>and will try and kick you if you pick up even one.
EUfag here. What server? I've seen this happen exactly once in *checks Steam* some 2100 hours give or take a couple hundred hours of sitting in menus or the psykhanium. The only times I'm not playing havoc or auric is because I'm actually speedrunning uprising for Melk, that's about it.
Once.
A single time.
I don't pick up grims because I understand some players might not like it, but I'll gladly pick up the second one if someone else takes the first.
In fact, I only recall a really small handful of complaints for picking up a grim, and those were usually justified by low HP classes that didn't bring a health curio. I have no problem just destroying the second one.
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>>575816235
I remember when I started playing ogryn and it took 4 hits with a shovel to kill a single poxwalker
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>>575811382
>>575816621
shitposting aside I think this looks a little average for how long they have been working on it and how much it was hyped. I was expecting some more interesting weapons, hot-shot with a backpack for full auto for example. And also vehicles like a sentinel since they already have walkers in the game. Oh well, it doesnt look dogshit at least and with modern gaming that's usually the best you can hope for
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>>575817615
You were clearly ruining the game for them by playing with an overleveled character
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>>575819716
SUPER EARTH?

MORE LIKE

POOPER EARTH!
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>>575820404
AMAZING!
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Why is playable ogryn so much stronger than enemy ogryns?
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>>575819815
I play on NA and on the rare occasions grims are grabbed there's almost always someone bitching about it to a greater or lesser degree. Again not very common to have them get grabbed but auric gamers are much more retarded than people can imagine.
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>>575820527
the god emp is a much more powerful force than any of the chaos gods.
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>>575820527
heresy makes you weak
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>>575820527
Our ogryns can't pull off a crusher overhead
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>>575820527
The only people who fall to chaos are people too weak to not get by on their own strength
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>>575820654
>NA is full of entitled overly vocal bitchbabies
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I'd just call them a faggot or a tranny on mic so fatshark can't punish me, it makes Americans seethe super hard.
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What do grims and scriptures even do? Bonus rewards at the end? I know a few penances are tied to them.
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>>575821224
they give you a pittance of exp and dockets and yes, there is a penance associated with collecting 150 scriptures and 75 grims
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>>575820313
They can't do a backpack las lmg because they're already making one that's helldivers themed. I am surprised not to see a full size bolter, but that's probably because the JAR5 already is one, and no plasma gun because we already have a shoulder mounted plasma gun that functions exactly like warhammer ones.
>a new vehicle just for a collab
lol
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>>575820984
It is what it is.
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>>575821450
no full sized bolter because there's no spees muhreens and helldivers players are too stupid to know that human sized bolters exist. I like the weapon choices desu although a marksman lasgun makes me raise an eyebrow
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come on guys, we have to play together
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3774489024
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What does skitarii even bring to havoc?
Feels like every time there's a skittle on the team they do fuck all. Yeah, they help during the servoskull parts in missions, but otherwise it feels like they just do nothing.
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>>575821587
The "laser assault rifle" niche was already occupied by three different weapons, while the "laser sniper rifle" niche was completely open.
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>>575816621
>>575818825
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>>575820808
nah, otherwise he wouldn't have had to make a deal with them to get a massive power boost
>>575820984
missing the emperor in that picture
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Why do the Karnak twins filter pubs so hard?
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>>575822321
Safe revives without having to stop fighting, sometimes at a distance. Rather high melee DPS if built correctly, including stunlocking moderate groups of enemies depending on the build. Is a rather good specialist sniper, think lower DPS veteran but with infinite ammo.

It's pretty weak overall in havoc and I auto decline them because there's the added issue of being the new and shiny thing, but most players need several months to acquire even a basic understanding of how to play the class. But from playing with known good players on skit, and playing skit myself, it's just kinda decently self-sufficient and can break away from the group without too much worry, and it's pretty fast if you can move tech on the tranny blades or use a knife.
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>>575809315
I just hold shift with my ring finger and Lctrl with my pinky.
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>>575822764
Requires mastery of fundamentals and basic situational awareness, which is a 99th percentile achievement.
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how do i survive good
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>>575818549
in my uninformed most humble opinion GW tend to synchronize and harmonize releases among "their" licensed games so maybe yes.
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>crashed
well that hasn't happened in a while.
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>>575804305
if you have a friend spamming the twins teleport bell that you unlock by doing the orthos offensive secret puzzle

if not spam quickplay on highest difficulty you can

make sure to have xp curios on whenever you unlock the slots for them
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>>575823202
Darktide, yes?
Put on headphones. You need directional awareness. Listen and listen well. That means no voice chat and no music (game music is fine, but feel free to turn it down a little).
If you ever don't know what to do and are panicking, don't spam dodges. Just hold block. If you are surrounded, push.
In general, push more. Noobs don't push enough, if ever at all.
Religiously slide everywhere. Yes, everywhere. From the start of the mission to the end, even if there are no enemies, just so you can develop the muscle memory to do it effortlessly. You will know when you fucked up the timing. Keep your slides nice and tight without much time in-between, once you get good at it, you can be almost immune to even h40 gunners. If you are having trouble doing this, you need to change your binds.
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>>575817619
That’s way too open for debate for them to ever really enforce so I doubt it.
>>575820808
Individually maybe but not all together.
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>>575823202
>>575824360
Also worth noting, pushing effects all close enemies within a 360 radius
You get a 'woosh' notification when an enemy is winding up an attack from out of your field of view and if you push in response, you'll often knock them out of their attack
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>>575824847
>shoving is 360
wow that makes no frickin sense
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Should I always take bleed on ogryn/veteran/zealot from talents?
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I just wanna thank you guys for helping me improve at the game, I ain't great at the moment but I'm sure as hell a lot better than when I first started. Cheers on all the advice.
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>>575825327
Vet bleed is such a fucking atrocious talent that you are griefing not only yourself but your teammates for taking it. The only way to grab it without wasting a point is by pathing through it, which means you aren't pathing through Field Improv and thus you are a nigger. Anyone who tries to argue against FI is also a nigger. I will not explain why it is good because it is self-evident to anyone who is not a nigger.
Ogryn bleed maybe. A pure ranged build can afford to drop it, but it's not wrong to still take it. Melee builds should always take it every time because it also gives you damage resist in the bottom left.
Zealot maybe. It's pretty much the best path down to the left keystone, and Blinded by Blood helps kill bosses a bit quicker. Already worth taking if you just bring a Puncture boltgun or bolt pistol.
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>>575822212
Where's the dorktide version of this?
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>>575825540
But you don't even get med kits in every map
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>>575825734
The medkit benefit is nice, but its biggest strength is supplying extra blitzes. To everyone.
Also the talent works for everyone just by you having it slotted, it doesn't matter who drops the crate.
At the very worst, it lets you drop an ammo crate and spam all of your grenades. The only time it doesn't benefit (You) directly is if you brought smokes for some reason. Except it obviously also benefits everyone else.
You aren't seeing enough medkits because you are playing baby difficulties where the game doesn't give you any. I expect to see 1-3 per mission.
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>>575817792
not a collab retard
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>>575823202
Move in a way that makes it difficult for enemies to surround you, avoid getting stuck in dead ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDOKgV69KwM
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>>575825907
Smokes are bad? Also nice to know I don't have to throw the medkit to veteran anymore. I used to do that all the time
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>tired of carrying absolute retards
>install True Level mod
>quickplay with high lvl guys
>they're all absolute retards
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>>575826514
damn it's almost like simply playing the game for an extended period of time doesn't translate into improvement at the systems if you're nothing but a dumb nigger monkey with sub 80iq
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>>575826453
>Smokes are bad?
"No", they just have no selfish synergy with Field Improv that benefits you directly.
Smokes are the top-tier havoc 40 meta pick for veteran (or rather, most teams, and a major reason to bring a veteran) because they are in fact just an invulnerable, better bubble that doesn't pop after 5 seconds and are almost infinitely spammable.
They're pretty useless in auric and below because shooters aren't a threat, everyone runs 2-3x gunner resist so those aren't a worry either, and it's already your job to kill disablers before they do anything, not blind them. The opportunity cost of giving up kraks is also pretty painful, especially when you're still new and learning and leveling weapons, but need something to kill bosses with. Assume your teammates all die and leave you alone with the boss on 75% health, what do you do? It's obviously best to just krak it as soon as you see it and kill it while it staggers.
If you want to use smokes, think of them as bubble, and put them where you want to be. Tossing them at your feet is fine. Tossing them where you are about to be is also fine. Do not throw them at enemies, that doesn't help.
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Vermintide 2 should get a grand finale DLC where the protagonists go to Lustria to hitch a ride on a temple-ship as it escapes the chaos invasion by going to space (this actually happened btw)
And there should be a final extra class for each character, them in chaos alternate universe stuff, with (mostly) seperate new dialogue made for it. These can be visited in the new levels as like, dark mirrors or whatever, it'd be cool
They'd do Kruber as a chaos warrior (of khorne), Kerillian a cult of pleasure (slaanesh) dark elf, Saltzpyre will be a sorcerer of tzeentch, Sienna would be a swampy nurgle bog witch, and obviously Bardin would be a chaos dwarf
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Why does everyone recommend burn for recon lasgun? Why would you want a slow dot on a weapon that is designed to kill fast? Same with laser pistol. Wtf?
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>>575817746
>team with 3 ogryns
>I'm psyker with no health curios or corruption resistance
>they pick up both grimoires
>I'm now on my last wound with 30 HP
>they all have >200 HP and 2 wounds left
t-thanks
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>>575827117
>>I'm psyker with no health curios or corruption resistance
Unless your psyker is really low level, get to equipping at least 1 ideally 2 health curios and rely on Empathic Evasion for toughness. If you are losing most of your toughness in melee, play better, you should easily out regen the occasional singular melee chip hit even with a small pool.

If you're low level and haven't shopclicked 16%s from Melk yet, carry on.
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>>575827117
MUSCLE BEATS MIND, PSYKER
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>>575827117
>play ogryn with max health curios and maxxed out grim resist
>pick up grim
>take 30 damage in 20 minutes
>still have 500 health
owned, play a better class
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>>575818717
4 arby and a clean schedule for the night
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WRECKING CREW!!!
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>>575827117
This is a good thing actually, auric is too boring when grims aren't making you fear for your only, 30 hp long life.
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my wife so cute..
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>>575828342
>chainaxe
based
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What’s the most fun class to play with friends?
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Guess who died 3 FUCKING TIMES and I'm not even joking (there is a plot twist)
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>doing an assassination mission
>psyker pisses off a daemonhost
>he dies
>think he might have just accidentally hit it
>run into second daemonhost
>he runs right into it
>he dies again
>ask in chat if he knows he's usually supposed to go around them
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>>575829171
Skitarii
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>>575829254
The True Survivor fresh outta Havoc 40
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>>575829254
the arby
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>>575829284
he's in his training montage, let him solo her
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>>575827061
Tell me pls or is everyone just trolling?
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>>575829254
Always the H40 person
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>>575827061
>>575830036
>slow dot
have you tried it? you still get all the normal damage but now almost everything you hit will also burn. so you can just sweep a horde of poxxers and melee shitters, set them all on fire and they all die using a fraction of the ammo it would otherwise take

it also lets you set big fuckers like reapers or bosses on fire
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>arrowhead's addiction to fully modeled gun chambers finally reveals that yes, bolt pistols do not have any fucking barrel at all
>the round is just sitting right at the muzzle brake
lol
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>>575829459
>>575830180

aye, to be honest he had a meme crystalline build that wasn't very effective
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>>575827061
It's literally the most straightforward damage boost after dumdum, which is the other blessing you take.
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>>575811382
You're forgetting that it's HD2, so all the new guns are going to suck ass.
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>>575832664
nah I'd say the meltagun has a lot of potential, and for that reason I expect a lot of pissing and moaning if it doesn't live up to that potential
arrowhead is very frightened of making a powerful backpackless support weapon because they know the second they do every single support weapon that requires a backpack is dead forever, just like what happened to HD1
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Ogryn should have 100 base toughness.
He's the tanky class, it makes sense.
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It is literally impossible to jab pubbies with med stimms
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>>575833060
ogryn shouldnt have any toughness and should be a pure health tank
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>>575833149
>get constantly stunned by both melee and ranged enemies because you have 0 toughness
This is actually a thing btw. If you have 0 toughness you will be getting stunlocked.
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>>575833060
Tankiness means nothing in this game. Ogryn should have 24/7 taunt aura
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>>575833149
And he should get temporary hp
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Ogryn players should get lobotomies every time they boot up the game to accurately simulate a correct lore portayal of the character
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>>575833365
Only if that taunt aura disables all ranged weapons within 200 meters and forces enemies to melee
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>>575833364
easy fix: baseline stun immunity
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Ogryn should have no toughness and instead have temp health. And should be way shorter and required to have a beard. And wield an axe and shield and use a crossbow. And shouldn't take damage from the first hit he takes every, idk 20 seconds. And should boost defense for teammates.
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>>575833365
I dunno man, when I have 2 sets of +20% gunner resist on curios, FNP and Can't Hit Me Again, Delight in Destruction and No Hurtin Friends, it makes me pretty damn tanky against gunners.
My Toughness bar barely even moves.
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Wish we had more maps like the train
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>>575833404
And also remove toughness for the rest of the classes and also give them the ability to get temporary hp
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>>575835923
Hmmmm, this sounds familiar but I can't place my finger on it...
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>>575835923
Also give Zealot a big ass pistol as an ability he can pull out to one shot everything every once in a while
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How do I start playing havoc? Every game to join is 10-30 but I want to play level 1 and nobody joins there
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>>575836376
1 is piss easy and not worth your time.
No need to go lower than 10.
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Can anyone explain why the place where you choose levels is so confusing and shitty? Like fatshark has made useable menus before, why did they make Darktide's so retarded?
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>>575836376
Play an Auric Maelstrom, it bumps you up to 16
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>lagging behind slightly
>w-holding teammates trigger multiple hordes that then cut me off from them completely and zone me out of moving forward
>tfw teammates still holding w and spawning more shit on me
>somehow manage to avoid getting netted or mauler'd and kill enough to clear an opening and catch up without dying
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>>575836748
you mean the talents?
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>>575836898
I mean the place where you pick which map you're playing
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>>575836859
This is why falling behind is bad and should be avoided :)
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>servers shit themselves
>when i finish lagging out my ogryn instantly goes down
>immediately kicked back to character select screen
>reconnect
>am now dead and waiting to be rescued
>rest of the team folds instantly and we lose within 30 seconds
yeahhhhh it's time for a break i think
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>>575837069
Not my fault. They were there one second, then the next, they were on the other side of the room and I was surrounded. They didn't even care that a mutie grabbed me and tossed me to the other side of the horde.
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>>575827383
… unless that mind is sufficiently big ;)
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>cover a flank
>everyone moves over to cover it as well
>move to a different side
>they follow me
>cover behind
>they start covering behind
>every time it results in people getting swarmed from the side they just left
This is genuinely low IQ behaviour
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>feeling bored and sad
>play darktide
>die and rage at shitty teammates (it was solely my fault)
>feel worse than before
thanks darktide :)
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>>575816621
Isn't the blue guy a mobian, the fatshark OC regiment?
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>>575838441
just trying to stay in coherency
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I think grims should double the damage you take when downed
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Why does veteran's infiltrate ability sometimes not activate and go on an infinite cooldown, preventing me from using it again?
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>>575838458
Time to go for a walk in the fresh air. Maybe while listening to music. Then make some good food. You'll feel better.
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>>575838441
you want all the kills for yourself, huh? Greedy BITCH
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>>575842360
Gotta grind those green circles
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>>575836997
ah yes. It's retarded. 2026 and we still can't play whatever map we want.
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I think grims should be removed from the game because they offer nothing of value
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>>575842360
No, I want to finish the run.
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>melk wants 16 books
>meanwhile vermintide mission asks for 3
darktide does not respect my time
even gachashit respects my time more than this
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>kf3, very early on in the game's life, nerfed ground fire into oblivion
>people have been using direct damage builds on firebug for like a year as a result
this is incredibly gay
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>>575842919
also every book in V2 spawns in the same places every run.
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My current havoc level is 36 currently, but if I go play lower tier havocs, like H29, would my assigment still derank if I lose the match?
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Why is Vermintide 2 still so much better than darktide?
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>>575838458
You feel like shit, preformed shittily, and treated someone like shit. Of course you feel worse. Go do something more constructive. Go for a walk outside. Contact a friend or family member you haven't seen in a while to catch up, paint your minis, partake in a craft you enjoy, eat a decent hot meal preferably not alone
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>every single havoc mission spams bosses at the start
>GO GO GO RUN GO GO RUN FORWARD WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD GO GO GO FAST GO GO PUSH GO GO TAKE SPACE GO GO GO
I fucking wish I had friends to play with
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>>575843541
It's not
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What blessings should I use for a boltgun if I want to use it to snipe?
I'm talking about in terms of havoc 40. I know I want surgical at least.
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>>575844558
how do you reach havoc 40 without knowing what blessings to use
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>>575844918
I don't play veteran in H40. I play ogryn and arby.
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>>575843932
hurt people hurt people
misery is a sickness that spreads
we must take good care of ourselves and everyone around us
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>>575805098
>>575805661
>>575806616
We've been over this. Darktide's gameplay got grandfathered in. GW isn't making fatshark backtrack and make their old lasguns laser-bullets, and their new lasguns are allowed to be internally consistent. HOWEVER, new marketing material is in lockstep with the retarded laser-bullet design (see: Skitarii reveal trailer. Pic related)
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>>575846160
>star wars blasters
oh good, I wanted things to get gay and retarded
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>>575846473
Literally the ONLY people that like it are GW's retarded lawyers that dream of copyrighting colors and oxygen. It's part of why they've been on a big ass push to replace the catchy classic names with gay ass crap like skitarius maximus lorem-ipsumus.
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>>575807509
People largely don't care about the color too much. It can be waved away as being the result of different power settings or different regional patterns from different forge worlds. It's the beam vs star-wars blaster laser bullet that pisses most people off.
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>>575818312
>>575792047
Yeah I meant like a show or something. TW and Vermtintide are great in their own ways too but I’d like to see something more… expansive? The ideal thing would be a Vermintide game with all of TW’s content, maybe even in like a Battlefield style game, but I know that’s a pipe dream.
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>>575847063
>Yeah I meant like a show or something.
They'd make Kruber black.
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>teammate goes down
>use chorus/taunt
>other two teammates use the duration of my ability to magdump pox walkers
I'm going to kill myself
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>>575847668
In the future just don't bother. Hold your chorus UNTIL your retard goes for the res. They never notice. They do not pay attention.
Chorus isn't the most obvious effect either, so they might genuinely be too fucking new to know.
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>>575848051
>damn somebody went down i better go help
>woah that ultimate is pushing everything back
>i bet it hits for so much damage all those enemies will be dead in no time and the zealot will ress him afterwards
>he doesnt need me there
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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>>575849039
>implying they are sentient enough to have coherent thoughts
It's much more likely that they don't know how chorus works and that they assume you standing there in a position that is not flailing your melee or shooting your gun = you reviving.
Also chorus basically kinda is a free revive as long as you have any 2 sources of revive speed, since that will make the revive go off fast enough that enemies cannot recover from the stun, assuming you start reviving right after a pulse happens.
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Why can't I have a meltagun..
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>>575847668
>activate chorus
>my team suddenly stop fighting and just stare at the enemies
Why the fuck does this happen so frequently
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>>575850114
They're blatantly saving it for the bolter bitch DLC
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>>575850291
Nah.
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Lol the game is 90% about running away from enemies and sometimes pushing them back
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>>575850114
General consensus seems to be a mix of meltas vary a lot in lore for what they do ranging from a beam that melts stuff to a cone that melts stuff and the devs just not knowing what to make it do.
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>>575850482
But enough about Vermintide.
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>>575850517
Literally just make two marks. It's not that hard. One concentrated for carving through crushers. Another for super shotgun.
Or its special could be switching between those two modes.
I'm so smart I should be a dev.
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>>575850291
So never, got it
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>>575847063
A Battlefield game for either 40k in the style of their normal games or Fantasy in the style of Fantasy would be so cool it’s crazy but it’s obviously have to be some other company because they’d never take the chance
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>>575850482
No no no, you have it all wrong, running THROUGH enemies
If you see a boss spawn behind you, a horde in front and snipers and grenadiers pelting you from cover what you do is you push as hard as you can into new spawns
Don't even kill them, just keep going forward
Never fall back from a long corridor, never hide behind corners for cover, never hold chokes, never stop for literally 10 seconds to thin out the horde. Hold W down until you reach the valkyrie because that's how you finish the mission
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I HATE TRAPPERS FUCK TRAPPERS KILL TRAPPERS
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>>575852560
I'm gonna getcha!
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>>575852560
>FUCK TRAPPERS
das rite
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fuck trappers......
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>>575852560
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>>575850739
You can't run away from enemies in vt2
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>>575852560
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>>575851063
that or a mode switch. I think they just gave up on it between that and the particle effects it would have being more work than they were willing to budget towards a single gun. Now, who knows. I think the actual team working on the game isn't that big.
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>>575853178
Sure you can.
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>>575854008
How when enemies are faster than you?
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>have to scan every objective myself
>get surprise dogged while trying to upload data
>only other person alive is an arby
>literally has a sightline to me
>have to verbally tell this mongrel to tag the dog on me so his dog can save me
>he still takes an eternity to respond so i end up standing up at 2hp
still clutched up and won, let myself die at the respawn point so they could just grab me immediately.
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>>575850517
The consistent attributes are that it wrecks armor and is short ranged. Descriptions often make it sound like a more stable plasma gun that trades range for the reliability to not blow up at inopportune times.

Space marine is what deviated into to making it some weird ass area of effect horde mulcher "shotgun" .
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>>575854131
Movement tech, timed dodges, careers with boosted movement speed or mobility skills. Handmaidens and slayers for example routinely run circles around Ratclick mobs.
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>>575854598
But I don't want to run around them. I want run so fast enemy doesn't reach me
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can you guys stop talking about darktide in the helldivers thread, it actually is off topic over there
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>>575855173
lol gonna cry?
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>>575855173
piss your pants maybe?
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>>575854427
It being used as a mining and tunneling tool as well as a weapon in lore always made it feel like it was a wider beam. You are right that SM was the first game to make it function like a shotgun. TT single shot anti-tank, but that doesn't necessarily mean much for what it would translate to in a video game like darktide.

>>575855173
Shit is that why this thread feels more tame than usual?
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>no "maybe shit and cum?"
sovless
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>see 60% mobility gun
>"mhhh I need this right?"
>close to check if I have that already
>confirm that I need it
>open shop again and buy
>"wait why tf is mobility 80% all off a sudden?!"
>refresh in 59 minutes
FUCK
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>>575854787
Yeah, movement tech, character bonuses, etc. Some characters like WHC and a few others get longer dodges and can basically kite a blob of enemies indefinitely by just dodging away. Several weapons grant momentum boosts. Sometimes that movement tech costs stamina, sometimes it doesn't. I know Sienna can clear lots of distance fast by spamming dagger push stabs. The same goes for Bret sword and board. Bret sword heavies pull him forward, and I know dual axes for slayer let him move faster by flailing his arms around like a tard. Many careers get dashes/teleports that let them effortlessly disengage. The melee only careers have raw movement speed bonuses.
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>>575803760
The Cyber Mastiff doesn't scale with difficulty, meanwhile Lone Wolf scales with the player, so Lone Wolf eventually becomes better for a havoc 40 team.
Unfortunately it's a high floor, low ceiling class. The only reason why Arbites can't be buffed even though it's tied with Zealot as the weakest class, is because retarded havoc-lets and casual players in heresy would immediately call the class OP whenever it appears in non-endgame content.
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>>575857252
i would argue the mastiff still scales with difficulty in the sense it's a great cc tool in the right hands. Micro managing the dog can knock enemies around very handily and it can even pin human sized pinkies if you need it to. Still won't get as much value out of it over Lone Wolf on a player with similar skill but it has very underrated cc potential because most pubbies will go an entire run without tagging any enemy even a single time.
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>>575856789
Got a video of you dashing through a map not engaging enemies?
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>>575833513
homosexuals should get raped in the ass every time they complain about the game
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>>575857968
It was a thing once upon a time to just shuffle your way through against the grain as shade or handmaiden with 1H sword since it had infinite effective dodges (or maybe 100 effective dodges). It was the solo red weapon farming strat of the day since you technically didn't need to kill or fight any of the monsters or normal mobs. This was before the green firewalls.
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Darktide 2: darker tide when?
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>>575858059
*raises paw*
But Sir... that will only make them complain more!
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Haven't played in years
Are Nurlge heretics still the only enemy faction in Darktide?
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>>575858530
yes
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I haven't played for a long time, please answer my retarded question about something so easy to find mby myself. Also can you resume me 3 years of patches and updates?
>nothing happened in 3 years
Yep that's my fault for this one I didn't raise the bar high enough
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>>575858676
Lame
@me when they add Genestealers or Drukhari.
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>>575859213
lol
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>>575857968
I have an ancient video of just casually walking through against the grain as shade with 1H sword where damn near the only combat is crossbowing the occasional special, but I don't want to dox myself
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>>575754930
>Literal Playstation nog
Can't make this shit up
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>>575812653
If you were going to put them in any setting, what else but 40k? Lefty grifter skins go to Fortnite.
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>>575859213
I'll check back with you halfway through eternity anon
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>>575859962
ah yes, the lefty grifters and their fortnite skins
care to name any
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https://youtu.be/6zh2bC-DvR0?si=UBvdws7wlXANhwsn

THE DAMNED MARCH!
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>>575860228
https://youtu.be/Yy_XpN-PFNc?t=11
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>>575859213
Genestealer cults are never happening.

If FatShit wanted to add another enemy faction, they would've already done so.
Darktide is almost 4 years old and only things they have to show for it are tox bomber and plasma gunner, both are reskins of the scab bomber and scab shotgunner.
And then we got the 2 dreg vanguards who are just shielded bruisers with an ungodly amount of health.

There won't be any enemy faction because the devs are lazy.
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>>575859684
Yeah I have a video of me inseminating you. But I don't want to doxx myself so I won't show it to you
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I don't want to play the damn train level again
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>>575862990
? it's an easy win
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>>575860224
d4vd
Kai Cenat
Chica
etc etc

I will be happy to accept your concession when you inevitably claim those "don't count" or don't need to address them just because!
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>>575863306
I don't know who any of these people are
why do you
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>>575861418
How big is Fatshark? My other f2p shitterbox(Warframe) keeps adding new enemy factions yet FS can't add a single one in how many years?
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>>575863083
nta but once you make the mistake of farming out mission completes on penances or weeklies you easily get sick of it.
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>>575850259
>>activate chorus
>>my team suddenly stop fighting and just stare at the enemies
I do this.
Chorus gives me so much free time to reload my clunky-ass gun for several seconds.
I am legitimately using the chorus in a productive manner, it just looks like I'm being a retard because it takes so long.
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>>575861418
>>575863718
It’s probably not even a case of laziness anymore but more they literally can’t since their people that know how their engine works have by and large left
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>>575861418
There's also the "secret project" listed on all of their job applications that the management has denied existing that's probably eating up most of the work.

>>575863718
A quick search says ~180-200 But the had an exodus of some of their main people leave for HD2's company and the game uses a dead engine, so it's hard to say how many people there actually know the engine well enough to work on the game as >>575864019 points out.
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>>575853080
I want to apply my chordclaw to her face...
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>>575820984
Nope. Most humans can fall to Chaos. It's not even about willpower; it's about physical or Warp protection. The only way you can be safe is if Big E personally saves you, or if you are a mutant or augmented, like a Psyker, Space Marine, or tube baby.
Chaos mutation and corruption can infect people through sound and tainted weapons. Willpower won't save you from becoming a poxwalker; you need a Psyker to cast protection on you.
Also, most human souls will inevitably go into the Warp after death and be eaten by daemons. Few will be saved by the Emperor or merged with a Throne Mechanicum, and only Psykers can escape them by isolating themselves in the Warp.
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>>575867376
>or tube baby.
can you elaborate more on this part? is it because they are soulless?
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>>575867376
Chaos can affect all of those things too. There are very few things it can’t corrupt or infect. There are certain protections you can have like you say but I can’t think of any that’s *completely* fool proof barring being possessed by the Emperor Guilliman style.
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I just hope we get to see Grendyl before EOS....
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I don’t know any darktide lore and I have skipped every single cutscene that has come up. I just press buttons.
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>>575786185
1) 4080 Super
2) 9800 x3d
3) 32gb ddr5 6000Mhz
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>>575869995
are nice, the new Darktide maps?
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>>575865121
>>575864019
For all we know, Fatshark's might have spent some development time helping Arrowhead with helldivers. When helldivers unexpectedly became a smash hit, Arrowhead might have thrown some money fatshark's way to contract them for some assistance with helping get things under control. Aren't both studios housed in the same fucking office building?
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>>575803760
by making the "sniper" exterminator an actual slug shotgun
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>>575786185
I've occasionally noticed low texture resolutions on weapons when viewing them in the cosmetics screen, but it's a coinflip. I also haven't been arsed to try to fine-tune graphics settings since everything works good-enough for me so long as gaytracing remains turned off.
>4070ti super
>9950 X3D
>64 GB DDR5

I know my GPU bottlenecks me in some respects. When I upgraded the rest of my rig, I told myself that I'd wait for the 5000 Super's before upgrading my GPU. Then clownworld happened (again).
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>>575844558
puncture pinning fire
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>>575869920
>I just press buttons.
Don't do that on gloriana when fixing the bottom part. Wait for the others to smash the ice first.
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>>575867617
Custodes and the Sister of Silence
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>>575803760
>How would (you) fix arbites?
"Fix" the easiest, most braindead, arguably strongest class in auric? The only build that uses fewer brain cells to play that I can think of, is rumbler ogryn. That shit is pure catharsis.

Design wise, I'd move some damage talents up, and defensive talents down, so leveling the class isn't so weird, with borderline useless melee until you're in the bottom of the tree.

Fun wise, I'd give the dog its own "training" skill tree, in which you can dictate how the dog's AI behaves. No more manual tags needed, you just tell it to murderrape trappers in the skill tree, and it does that. I like microing the dog, but I would prefer not having to do it because that makes it even easier, and easy is what I want when I play arbitrator.

For havoc 40, I'd ... what, buff Nuncio's numbers a little, buff Execution Order very slightly (more CDR I think) and buff Razor Jaw a little bit. Arbitrator doesn't need much and is already viable, and mostly held back by most arbitrator players being completely retarded and utterly bricking their builds. It just doesn't peak very much in usefulness in the hands of a good player so it often doesn't make the cut.

Also buff Castigator's Stance to the moon, that ability is dogshit and needs help.
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Only just maxed Ogryn, he's a lot more fun that I would have imagined
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>>575803760
delete lone wolf
make dog bleed like it was when the class came out
give it the executioner shotgun
make arbites shock maul as slow and meaty as skit's maul instead of being a little spammy stick
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>>575871338
kek I’ve done that before too
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>>575870062
underrated post
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>>575871874
>I'd move some damage talents up, and defensive talents down
I like this idea
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>>575803760
I mainly want the dog to be more responsive when I tag something. The dog sometimes needs to "wind up" before pouncing and it often decides to take the employee elevator to reach an enemy. I don't care if it isn't realistic, if the dog has a clear line of sight to the enemy, it should just pounce when I tag.
Noospheric Command really spoiled me for having a companion. The amount of investment needed for Noospheric to get returns versus investing in the dog just doesn't equate.
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When should we expect a nerf to the arc rifle? This shit is obscenely strong.
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>>575875405
Never, it's the flame staff
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>>575875405
i would rather see the galvanic get an ammo buff
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>>575875564
Better to give it a damage buff and cut the time it takes to stabilize in half
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>>575875460
Psyker in general needs a huge fucking nerf. They can just turn the game off.
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>>575850259
Probably you use chorus like a retard to suppress 2 poxwalkers
You expect your teammates to spread out and chase poxies but they are somehow better than that, which is very rare.
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>>575875759
It scales up with enemy density, which fatshark doesn't care about since they balance for malice or heresy at most.
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>>575875358
This, the dog is too slow to make a real difference most of the time. It should a be a "fuck this guy up NOW" button, and we should be able to customise target priority on it in the equipment screen
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>>575850259
I'm off killing shit that isn't stun locked, I couldn't care less what you're doing unless you're ledging a boss.
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>>575875564
Two things can happen at once. The gal rifle really isn't as good as it should be given how long it takes to reload and the small ammo cap. I think it should be much more useful against carapace.
>These weapons fire specialised servitor-bullets over long distances that cause all potential energy of the target to burn out in a killing blast of electric force.
I'm not sure what the fuck this means, but it sounds like something that should be an elite killer.
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>>575875759
If Psyker (and infinite cleave AoE DoTs) is nerfed, then something needs to change with some Havoc modifiers. Rampaging + Garden is absolute cancer without a Psyker melting everything.
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is there any reason to do heresy maelstorm?
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>>575876205
>I'm not sure what the fuck this means
It's weaponized galvanism.
It reacts with the materials in the struck object and causes them to be instantly converted into heat and electricity.
So all materials have a potential energy they can be converted into, like how we burn wood or coal or oil and such to create heat, we're converting the potential energy of the wood into actual usable energy through oxidation and combustion.
The galvanic rifle uses the bullets it fires to cause this process of converting potential energy in actual energy to occur effectively instantly to whatever it strikes.
So theoretically I suppose it would be more effective against materials that are more reactive or have more potential energy per atom?
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>>575871874
>Fun wise, I'd give the dog its own "training" skill tree, in which you can dictate how the dog's AI behaves. No more manual tags needed,
I can get behind this but I want to keep the option to manually issue an attack command. It has been convenient to tell the dog to just go get a sniper when I'm too bogged down in melee to shoot it myself.
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>>575878518
you might meet a fatshark developer, if they're feeling brave
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>>575867617
clones, and/or vat born surrogates
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>>575875910
I've found the dog to be inconsistent in its leaps. Oftentimes it takes a while to run up to the target and then leaps when it's ~2 meters from it, but I've witnessed it perform some ridiculous leaps.

Forgive my poor gameplay in this clip. I returned from a hiatus to play skitarii and arbites, and was still rusty and leveling up in Heresy I think. The trapper also snuck up on me since I was stunned and in awe at this fucking leap. Haha, just look at him go!
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>>575846753
>It's part of why they've been on a big ass push to replace the catchy classic names with gay ass crap like skitarius maximus lorem-ipsumus.
Were you asleep 15 years or something? The big push already happened
>skitarii
That one has actually been what they've called since like the 90s
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>>575748695
If you are a shout vet, it is fine
If you are not a shout vet, you are depriving me of sources of toughness
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>>575871405
? neither of those are tube babies
krieg and many servitors are tube babies but they're not immune to chaos. clones with limited personalities do have souls, but they're shitty grey souls daemons don't really enjoy but will eat if they're there
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>>575748997
You'll be thanking me when a pack of ragers is on top of you and your toughness mysteriously won't go down
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>>575879330
That's exactly what I want to see happen whenever I tag something. It's just way too inconsistent to see that behavior.
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>>575867376
>>575867667
Being literally soulless is the only true immunity. Not even the Emperor is immune, just extremely resilient
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>>575876305
>"I can't beat havoc 40 without a busted class crutch on the team"
You not really H40
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>>575883130
Not necessarily, blanks are immune and it's implied they're not soulless, but have a kind of anti soul since they're visible in the warp as a void the way a black hole is.
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>>575820313
>also vehicles like a sentinel since they already have walkers
That's sort of the problem though. They just released the exo warbond bringing the number of walkers up to 4. Why spend time modelling, animating, balancing a fifth that occupies no niche that isn't already covered? Expecting a sentinel is stupid.

Backpack hellgun would've been cool, but after the teaser showing bistol, a hotshot and melta are exactly what I expected. It's like the Halo warbond, they're going to stick with the iconic human weapons, as much as I wanted a needler and fusion cannon
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>can't decide between the Darktide admech DLC or space marine 2
Is the pvp in space marine 2 active?
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>>575883130
Nope lmao.
Chaos can also posses machine and AI like the Demon Engine
40k lore power-creep chaos to the point it makes no sense. Just so they can keep presenting "a picture of humanity fighting against the impossible odd"
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>>575811382
>>575816621
>Kasrkin and who the fuck knows armor
>lasgun shoots yellow Star Wars bolts
>don't know how the bolt pistol will be
>meltagun looks good
>meltamine could be strong against heavy units
>vehicle skins look like shit
I'm overall really disappointed with this. They could've done a lot better on the armor. Like what the fuck actually is the demo armor based on? Just a black Kasrkin? I expected Cadian armor and maybe like Tempestus or Ellysian armor.
And god damn GW needs to fuck off with this shitty lasgun depiction.
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>>575883980
That's just retarded and one of the bits of lore I shall simply choose to never acknowledge.
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>>575883865
/sm2g/ arranges some games, not sure if they do the pvp or just the pve though, it's worth popping over to ask.
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the blackout missions are so ass
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>>575883980
>pic
wut
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>>575884192
>who the fuck knows armor
It's Cadian bomb squad armour, bottom left in pic. Why they picked that over doing tempestus scion or some other regiment I don't know, nobody recognises the armour from this one dude in a kill team box.
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the blackout missions are kino
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>>575883980
This is just bad writing. Slaanesh can and has broken the rules for her favorite special boy to come back. But there should be literally nothing a Chaos god can do to corrupt or really even interact directly with a Necron. They have no souls and no flesh. They shouldn't be effected by Scrapcode because they're beyond being simple machines. They're basically a race purely composed of blanks.
The Chaos wank needs to stop.
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>>575883980
Chaos has always been able to do stuff like that. Although Lucius possessing a Necron is probably an extreme example, it’s not the first time we’ve seen Chaos attacks affect them either, they’re soulless but they’re not immune to the attacks themselves, just the ‘corruption’ so to speak. Nurgle’s plagues can also affect them.
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>>575883980
I was under the impression that Necrons that still have parts of their personality managed to keep bits of their soul through biotransferrence, so it would make sense for this to have worked.
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>>575792954
I don't know how
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>>575884586
yeah it’s not like they’re culexus assassins that actively dispel or negate those effects the moment they come into contact with them, you won’t be turning them into chaos cultists or mutating their necrodermis but they’re still vulnerable to the actual ‘abilities’ of the gods, otherwise they’d have no real use for stuff like blackstone outside of the pylons
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>mister E says combat axe is garbage on his 3000th tier list video
>/coopg/ say yesterday the combat axe is actually great
>Mister E just released a video sayign the combat axe is great


I KNOW YOU ARE HERE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT, KILL YOURSELF YOU AND YOUR GAY DOG
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>>575883435
Blanks aren't immune.
In The Master of Mankind, the Sisters of Silence, including Jenetia Krole, got overwhelmed by the Warp power that daemons could manifest in their presence
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>>575885465
I blocked that faggot last summer when I saw him pop up in my reccomended with a pride flag version of his channel logo
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>>575886587
I rarely watch his videos but everytime I did he sounded like an insufferable condescending retard. English is not my language so I may be wrong
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>>575886781
>English is not my language so I may be wrong
the tone of voice transcends the language barrier
he is condescending
very much an overconfident pseudo-intellectual reddit type
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>>575885465
I almost feel bad for. He clearly wants to be "the guy" for darktide stuff, but the game isn't big enough nor updates frequently for there to be a point to doing weekly videos. And in choosing to make weekly slop about darktide he just becomes unbearable. Tac axe is good if you build for it and have high crit so zealot and scum. Like fuck it's fun on my melee scum. Otherwise it's mediocre

>>575886781
Nah, his tone of voice comes off as overly opinionated and behaves as though his opinion is the only correct one while chasing some e-celeb status he is never going to get
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Do I have any reason to do the campaign as a HIV cum or chudbitrator?
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>>575887518
No.
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>>575887518
no, the campaign is awful to repeat since it locks you out of doing regular missions and nothing about it changes.
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>>575885465
He's not taking brutal momentum, on the fucking Rashad 100% shitter confirmed
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>>575803760
>Buff Nuncio Aquila
Faster cooldown like 40-45 seconds instead of 60sec. Some buffs should retain for 5 sec when moving outside of its radius like atk speed and damage reduction.
>Rework Unshead Brutality and Go Get them.
Make them, one with doubling dog damage and bleed on dog attack, one with extra dogplosion and brittlness on dog attack.
>But there are two nodes already have that.
Rework them into, one gives arbites attack speed, one gives arbites extra crit chance.
>Rework Warrent Terminus
It shouldn't be this range and melee weapon swap stupid gimmick. Make it more dog focus, more dog damage and possibly a bit extra arbites either stagger or damage buff, dog pounce staggers nearby enemies, minor nodes can give everyone in coherence with atk speed buff, toughness regen, or ability cooldown reduction.
What about Vet, Vet Focus Target should have 6 stacks as baseline instead of having to spend extra talent. Minor node gives toughness regen can go into gold toughness.
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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SOMEBODY CALL FOR A BOOM?
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How do I kick purgatus + dome tards from my lobby. If you're going to play a busted weapon, then at least build it right (use shriek you imbecile)
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>>575892270
Go to the menu and call for a kick vote
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I bet we'll get another DLC before they try (unsuccessfully) to make the Ogryn playable
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Is there any way to make chaxe work on scum for auric? Or am I just going to anchor the team?
I just love how it feels to saw down specials with it man
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>>575892143
Ruining games since September 2022.
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This game is so cool
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>>575893497
ESL? I think you mean slow them down or be a burden. Being the anchor is usually a good thing as it means you can be relied upon.
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>>575895159
Anchor as in weigh them down anon. Have you never heard someone calling others an anchor dragging the team down?
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>>575895652
Usually seen it to refer to someone as getting reliable results in a team
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>>575895920
Could be both I suppose. Mostly heard it back when I played mobas as an insult
But to the original point, chain axe feels so anemic, despite feeling so good to use. It's a shame but I guess it just doesn't work for high level play
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It is kinda weird that in gaming anchor is a bad term but in, say, a relay race or a drinking game an anchor is a good thing
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I know why those swedish faggots refuse to give us functional bots in shopclick like in they do in ratclick, but still FUCK those fags for it. My data center is dead and so this game is a fucking slop and there is no chance in hell of getting decent high difficulty games, let alone any of the special ones like mortis or expeditions
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>>575896417
It's also a positive term in gaming for someone acting as a stable point for the team to play around without getting overwhelmed
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>>575896417
It's a bad term in a game where playing well means moving and fighting at the same time. There's literally no reason to sweep every area clean, a game shouldn't take more than 25 minutes at most.
>tfw been in a few matches with a guy who hops on mic and won't stop yapping at us to stop rushing
>we are just setting a normal pace through the level
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why l
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>>575897212
So you can see the other pay piggies cosmetic little man. Can't be running solo lobbies, no no, they shilled good for those hats and you are going to see them
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>>575897652
I MUST CLEAR ZE YELLOW BOXES!

I WILL FIND THE AMMO BOX
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>level 200 retard
>still doing the dodge hop thing
>still double tagging everything
how does one play this game and just never improve from the baseline
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>>575895652
I only ever see the term used to mean the opposite
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>Helldidver 2 players want the devs to buff their weapons
>Darktide players want the devs to nerf their weapons
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GW insisting on these yellow flash bolts for lasguns is such a weird autism thing to see. Why are they doing it?
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>>575901381
Because they have always been yellow flash bolts.
Just because Relic popularaze the red laser in DoW1 doesn't mean its canon.Look at any Imperial Guard official art and you'll see a yellow flash
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>>575901379
>Swedish devs are retarded
What else is new?
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Actual troglodytes are on right now.
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>Darktide
>All the male npcs are based
>Morrow, Rannick, that IG cap in the tank
>Almost the female npcs are unbearable
>The commodore, Dukane, Masozi
>Sefoni is pretty cool though
Morrow is easily my favorite though
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>>575901928
love my schizo penance priestess
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>>575901381
I can only theorize it might be easier for AI to generate for them than red beams? I can't think of anything else.
They were caught using AI for some official art recently and tried to lie their way out of it.
>>575901576
see
>>575806610
They were in fact described as beams first. And none of the art actually depicts them firing bolts, just muzzle flash.
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>>575901576
But why? They have been given a iconic look in media and now they want them to look frankly like generic guns? Its just odd.
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>>575901576
>muh cherrypicking
Okay there's also official art like Gaunt's Ghosts covers that have blue beam lasguns my man
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>>575902153
here's one of the AI art pieces they used btw(look at the name plate, the melee arm doesn't look right, more than one barrel on the gun has muzzle flash at once)
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>>575902574
BJORD
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>>575902574
What the fuck, how did that pass? Do they have indians as quality control?
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>>575901379
>>Darktide players want the devs to nerf their weapons
nerf their EGREGIOUS OUTLIERS
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buff crowbar
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>>575903310
Fuck that. Nerf everything and buff the enemies.
Then reduce enemy numbers. The only way to have difficulty atm is just abhorrent spam, can we go back to more thoughtful gameplay?
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>>575903310
dome fire psyker isn't that impressive in auric, so how it performs in havoc does not matter
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>>575903479
more food for my pickaxe, games perfectly fine
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>>575903479
I like the spam though. I like having to slog through knee deep corpses of specials. I want to turn the corner and see 35 ragers because thats FUN
If you want to feel like an ineffectual retard, play helldivers instead
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>>575903479
I thought for sure you were going to say
>Then reduce the player numbers
and this post was going to turn out to be sarcastic
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>>575901381
>GW insisting on these yellow flash bolts for lasguns is such a weird autism thing to see. Why are they doing it?
It all tracks back to some court case where GW tried to sue some company that created a third party model for some kind of tyranid drop pod thing. The judge slapped their shit in and said
>GW, you're trying to sue this guy for copying your IP with his model. However at no point in time has this pod EVER been depicted in a single piece of your media. You don't have your own plastic model for this piece, it has never been depicted in one of your video games, and it has never been drawn in any of your artworks. This guy's model is unique because he can't copy what you never created
So GW kvetched the fuck out and started having conniption fits about depictions of stuff. The earliest depictions of guardsmen basically just look like ordinary soldiers shooting ordinary rifles with ordinary tracers, so they decreed that this is their do-not-steal completely original and canon representation of lasguns. Literally the ONLY people that like this lasgun change are their lawyers that are trying to copyright everything that isn't nailed down.
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>>575903523
>dome fire
everyone who's anyone is using venting shriek to faceroll everything.
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>>575903479
Why are you interested in playing through a financially struggling strip mall?
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>>575903531
>>575903590
>>575903801
>Immediate seething from mouthbreathing retards who like to just smash buttons and drool
Truly thought provoking gameplay.
Why isnt it enough that you can cleave through a hundred poxxies? Why do the elites also need to be complete pushovers? Shouldnt 5 ragers be a threat instead of just two swings of a pickaxe?
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>>575904115
Play a turn based game if you want to be thoughtful
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>>575883130
Not having a soul definitely helps, but having a trained and focused active ‘anti-presence’ like SoS or Culexus (mostly the latter) that just turns that stuff off within a certain range and makes you immune to it is better, its pretty much instant death for anything that’s even remotely tainted by the Warp or that has a strong psychic presence within it, even CSMs who aren’t even really mutated have been dusted by the Culexus in seconds. Even with this, Culexus have been shown that they can be ‘overcharged’ if it’s an *extremely* powerful psyker or something they try to kill (extremely rare though). I will note that even non-weaponized Blanks have been able to shut down things as strong as Daemon Princes though so they’re definitely up there in defenses.
Oh, and C’tan. There’s definitely been nothing about them being corrupted pretty sure.
>>575885564
SoS warp negation isn’t perfect yeah. We also saw this in the Guilliman Vs Magnus fight where despite them weakening him they didn’t completely banish him back or anything. Jenetia herself also died to Kharn, who, despite her being invisible to him, didn’t just make him drop dead. That said, I don’t think they’ve ever been possessed or corrupted either but maybe I’m forgetting something.
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>>575904187
I do and they're excellent.

So can be FPS games as well.
Half-life 1 marines are a great example. They hit hard, move constantly, use grenades and thus you dont need 50 of them to pose a challenge.
Or Halo 1 elites where two at a time is a meaningful challenge. Why would the game be better if you could mindlessly mow down two dozen without reloading?

VT2 cataclysm is a far better way to do difficulty. Its easier than Havoc 40 sure but just so pleasant to play. 3-4 chaos warriors at once is an actual threat that doesnt get solved by a single button press. Meanwhile 8 crushers in DT get blown up by a krak or rocket or two chordclaw strikes. Its just meaningless.
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>>575894970
>>575895127
>>575895263
space marine 2 levels absolutely mog darktide levels it's crazy
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>Hi-intensity ransacked routes
>translation: 6 trillion heavy gunners and reapers lmao
I'm tired boss
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>>575905128
You don't have to deal with the event if you queue for expeditions ;)
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you don't have to deal with the event if you the uninstall wizard
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>>575803760
I'd just wish for castigator to return ammo out of nothing
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>>575904507
>3-4 chaos warriors at once is an actual threat that doesnt get solved by a single button press
It can. A bomb might not delete them but it will maim them enough that they'll fall over really quick. A good double-stab from a grail knight skill will delete at least two of them. I think that the interaction was nerfed at some point, but can't waystalker still shit out a bunch of trueshot bow arrows via bloodshot + loaded bow? OE can throw out a lot of pain with his bombs and trollhammer.

Although as a whole I think I agree with what you're saying. Ratclick's "break glass to delete the threat" options are generally in more limited supply than the shopclick counterparts, and that in broad general terms the players spend more time needing to rely upon their mastery of the fundamentals in a fight.
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>>575905128
>get gunners into melee
>they stop shooting
its that simple
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>>575906134
>run at them
>they shoot you to death
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SLIDE! TASUKETE TRUE SURVIVOR SAMA!
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>>575906340
>sprint towards enemies
>tap crouch in a rhythm
>while sliding you are immune to bullets, maintain your momentum, and stop spending stamina
its pretty easy if you play like shout vet or voltaic skitty so you have a panic button
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>>575906660
When I try this I just slow to a walk and consecutive crouches just make me crouch like a retard before being shot to death
Is there a trick to keeping sprint going?
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for Arbi crusher do you go slaughterer or hammerblow or opportunist alongside skullsrusher
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>>575906765
its just figuring out the timing according to your weapon/class, just fuck around in the psykhanium. hold sprint, tap crouch (dont hold), when you get up and sprint for a split second again just repeat. also obviously use like fast movement weapons so its comfortable (shivs, trans blades, tac axe, combat blade, etc). im like true level 1000 on my scum, so the timing is just muscle memory to me at this point.
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>>575907037
NTA, but 2H great weapons are the only weapons for me.
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>>575907175
I just wish that the tox bomber glowed green like the scab bomber glows orange. Also I'm pretty sure that the tox gas obstructs an area 3x larger than the fire bombs, and I can't be cheeky and just balance on a box or railing or something vs the gas.
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>>575907175
for me it's the bomber dropping a fire on death half of the time
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>>575907381
The gas also doesn't fuck you up nearly as fast
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>>575907848
They both feel slow to me. Before I took my hiatus from the game, the flames didn't do toughness damage. They just straight up deleted 100% of your toughness if thought too hard about touching the flames for a fraction of a second.
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>>575907175
I don't hate them, I hate teammates that don't immediately have the KILL KILL KILL switch flip on the moment one of them enters their field of view or even just soundscape.
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>>575908441
why are you like this
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>>575901928
Melk is a posh cunt tho.
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>>575908972
nta, but im tired of doing all the work, if i can take the time to shoot a special in the middle of dueling ragers, they can do it when theyre dueling poxwalkers
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>>575908972
I just like having teammates in my team game, is that such a crime?
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>>575908972
why aren't you like this
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in absolute awe at how good darktide could be
but lets blame ratfags again, they are clearly the reason the game is still not even half as good as their 10yo sibling
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>>575867376
>It's not even about willpower;
are we even talking about the same fantasy universe? faith and willpower has a real, verifiable and significant effect
>psyker powers
can help but can also increase your attack surface and make you more vulnerable

it's not a cut and dry matter like that. in 40k having faith in the Emperor and contempt for the enemy genuinely protects you. not fully, nothing does, and there are limits, but especially when large groups are involved it can make the difference.
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>>575871338
isn't the optimal strat having one guy smash the ice and another guy guard the door and pressing the button to open the next door?
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>>575878518
if you're new at the game why not
if you can't complete a heresy maelstrom without going down then you should probably get better before unlocking H16 in auric and trying to progress there
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>>575903479
>Then reduce enemy numbers.
how about no?
I play darktide for the mixed hordes, thank you very much. Give me more enemies, not fewer.
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>Additionally, your game progression will be separated from the official game.
so whats the fucking point
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>>575906916
Slaughterer.
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>>575893497
Absolutely. The Mk XII is really good on scum. It's what I use most of the time.
Make regular Rampage build with Adrenaline frenzy keystone. Take all the base and melee damage buffs you find. Slap slaughterer and headtaker on the chaxe and go to town.
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>>575901928
masozi makes my dick hard when she goes WOOHOO though
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I don't get the Dukane hate
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>>575912303
For me it's the bad voice direction, it's like she's trying sound russian, but that is definitely not what they sound like. VA probably would have done a better job without trying to put on whatever accent they think sounds cool for Dukane.
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>>575912303
me neither
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>>575913106
>>575913106
>>575913106
>>575913106
>>575913106
MOVE
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>>575806674
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>>575912303
bad voice acting, annoying archetype of a character (incompetent authority figure)
i would hate her either way because of the latter, but it would at least be appreciable in the sense of her representing the vast majority of authority figures in the imperium, and a good reminder that the people in the warband are actually downright friendly compared to the norm, but the former instead makes her extremely obnoxious to listen to
dragor, a useless glory hound, is more likeable just by virtue of him having a fun voice actor
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>>575913432
>incompetent authority figure
wait, is she incompetent?
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>>575918227
yeah she seems like a huge retard most of the time she's involved in something. running a guard regiment who are only able to get stuff done because of us, gets into traps where suicide trains are coming after her several times a day, etc



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