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Human Ressources edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>575746995

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Space Marines 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday 2
The Outlast Trials
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
Killing Floor 3
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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ratling sniper will save this general
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The look she gives a new recruit when they ask about the protocol for acceptable use of force
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>>575913175
This must be a meme. I can't imagine anyone actually wanting that
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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True grit?
Don't mind if i do
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>>575908441
>I don't hate them, I hate teammates that don't immediately have the KILL KILL KILL switch flip on the moment one of them enters their field of view or even just soundscape.
Bold of you to think that they will see the special prior to the flame/gas going off. Or that they can locate the special from audio coming out of their mono speaker.
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>>575913282
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU FAILED AGAIN BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH POINT AT HIM AND LAUGH! YOU FORGOT THE IMAGE AGAIN BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!
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Do captain and lieutenant shields take damage from dots like burn? Can they even be burned while the shield is up?
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why are ratclick bosses so kino compared to shopclick bosses? they didn't even add trash talk from the player characters to the bosses. useless
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>>575913498
Captains can take bleed damage if the stacks were applied before the shield came back
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>>575913304
that's the widest monitor ive ever seen
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>>575913756
I could still fit it up my asshole
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>>575913756
It's so the heretics have nowhere to hide
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>>575913312
BASED
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>>575913952
That's genius! But also pay2win.
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>>575914045
Good. Wealthy people deserve to win more than poor "people"
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I love Darktide and SpaceMarine.
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>>575913952
>>575914045
Doesn't it just make you see less at the top and bottom than a less stretchy screen?
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>>575914313
Stupid fucking retard
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>>575914313
If the game doesn't support the resolution that can happen, but it's generally mild, and most games these days do support it. There are third party programs to adjust resolution if you really need. I've played some older games where certain UI elements were off the screen above or below, but that was solved be rendering at a lower resolution.
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>>575914351
>>575914568
Let me rephrase. What's stopping me putting the same visual information that's on the ultrawide onto a conventional screen format, but then also having more visual information above and below that?
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>>575914781
Holy shit you're retarded
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>>575914781
The distance between your eyes and your monitor
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>unlock kerillian axe expecting it to be a greataxe for the white lion of chrace rp
>it's a goddamn tiny hatchet, probably the smallest axe in the game
fucking swiggers
they couldn't have at least given paired handaxes or handaxe and sword instead if they were gonna do this shit?
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>>575913304
I baseded
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>>575914924
Fartshart can't into iconic weapons, see the Troonderhammer
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>>575914781
>but then also having more visual information above and below that?
What's stopping you is usually a hard limit set by the developers or the engine. Some games let you bypass it and do whatever you want.
With no limit you can do 360, like this:
https://youtu.be/QCPY5R4Myvs?si=uAxi88qZEXRExECW&t=207
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>>575913221
I actually want that.
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>>575914781
The issue you run into is warping. Kinda like how projection works on a 2D map of the Earth, assuming you're a globetard who believes in that stuff. Everything that's above and bellow becomes super warped.
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>>575915590
You should be killed
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>>575915590
You should be kissed for making the Resident Tranny Pony seethe because no SoB
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>>575915739
This isn't about sob, it's about not wanting a midget with hairy feet as the next class
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>>575915590
You should be raped
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>>575914881
And an ultrawide solves this how...?

>>575915535
That's fair, I guess I don't have any experience with how much games have a hard limit on it, and I kind of just assume that modding is capable of fixing it which maybe it isn't...?

>>575915667
Considering the alternative is seeing nothing at all there, it doesn't seem like much of a downside. The way our vision works we mostly only care about accuracy and details in the center anyway.
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The ratling cope is by far the most nonsensical, most retarded shit ever and you should feel ashamed for posting it.
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>>575916209
By being wider
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>>575916756
tbf they have been mentioned more in darktide than sob has
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>>575917114
Yes, and?
Arbites weren't really mentioned much. Scum wasn't directly named, and no amount of ESL cope that someone using the word "scum" in appropriate context is going to make it magically apply to the class. Skitarii were only teased in a small number of lines, and those teasers were vague enough to be almost meaningless, although Hadron's sarcastic tone is delightful in hindsight.

Ratlings have been mentioned starting pretty long ago, as have jean stealers, felinids, and a bunch of other cope that isn't going to make it into playable classes. Hell, I doubt fatshark has what it takes to steal jeans as an enemy faction either. We've seen what happens every time they introduce new enemies, it's always been utter cancer for several months, taking an eternity to fix. Plus, a new faction would just be a literal reskin of the existing factions with a different armor type and maybe some minor inconsequential gimmick like poxers inflicting corruption. At most we'll get a new elite, a new specialist, maybe a new boss, all of which are extremely likely to be retarded and unfun in their own way.
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>>575917320
if fatshark had any balls or competency, we could walk into a fire fight between stealers and chaos
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>>575917320
cheer up
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>>575917320
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>>575918067
Sent that imperial freak flying
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My friend got SM2, can you still cheat your way through the triple las fusil headshots with a solo lobby or did that become taboo.
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>>575914253
anon what monitors do you got?
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Here's your havok teammate bro
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>>575918451
'avoque
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>>575918482
Un ptit kebab, chef?
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>>575918451
This is so excessive that it's going full circle into becoming soulful again.
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>>575917320
>Scum wasn't directly named
you had to say this very specifically because the water cartel is mentioned more than grendyl is
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>>575918896
Oooooooh shiiiiiiit you just obliterated him!
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Is Tech Priest the next class?
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>>575919129
We don't know what the next class is
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>>575919129
yes
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>>575919183
Then explain >>575919189
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>>575919129
no
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>>575919367
He's a false prophet.
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>>575919129
maybe
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>>575919117
thank you chris pratt
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>>575919129
i dont know
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>>575919129
can you repeat the question?
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>>575918896
That doesn't make it Chekhov's gun. This game has a zillion unexplored unresolved plot points mentioned in various conversations. While I do think it's fair to assume that there was, at one point, intent to expand and explore them, we are dealing with Swedish video game development here. If it means anything, we can expect to wait another six years for it. By which metric anything could mean everything or nothing.
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FAH CAE DI AH!!!
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>is the greatest bot ally you could have in your path
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>>575920469
good thing fatshart forgot how to let you actually level up your bots and assign them classes and gear
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>>575919995
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>>575913406
"BWAAAA" makes it sound like you're crying
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>>575918451
At a certain point there's so much information and other shit on your screen, you can't really absorb the information.
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>>575919129
No. Skittle will be the only mechanicus representative as a playable class.

At best the next class is an eldar corsair that comes with all new weapons for itself, etc.
At worst it's going to be a shitter of butthole that is a zealot reskin that plays like arbites, and 70% of the class is rehashed pre-existing shit.
Ie. think arby shotguns that are just combat shotguns that hit very hard.
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>>575918067
>Laser bullets
>Not beams
I hate this shit so much
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>>575920618
They didn't, darktide's bots are intentionally bad
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>>575919129
you're not the boss of me now
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>>575922107
And yet they have saved so many games because they're good at picking up downed players.
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>>575922375
They're only capable if there aren't too many specials and elites aeound since they don't prioritize specials and lack DPS to kill elites quickly before they get too overwhelmed to save Pvt Shitter
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>>575914924
Glaive????
Its literally exactly what you're talking about. Are you fucking retarded?
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>>575919129
No, the next class is beastman.
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>>575922554
I think he knows anon, he's making a point about the usefulness of the average player.
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>>575923076
>>575922554
something i've experienced several times is when everyone is down, people start leaving, which spawns a bot, then the bot starts picking people up and it saves the game.
Kinda cheesy but still
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>>575922726
no retard, that's a glaive, not a greataxe, hence the name
i just don't like how the glaive feels, it's really awkward to use and was hoping for something more fun, given she has 3 variants on 'dagger/sword' it's not like having two big choppas would be bad
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>>575913106
Attention all Psykers. Man up and use other staves other than purgatus. That broken weapon teaches bad habits.
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>>575921551
>>Not beams
Those are clearly laser beams, just short.
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>>575924693
teeeechnically all beams are just really long blasts
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2RNIjlPJZrg
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>>575923997
>take electrostaff
>crit and soulblaze everything to death before anyone can reach it
Thanks anon, you showed me an even stronger pick!
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>Glaive (gladius)
>it's an axe
Can some literatefag explain plz I'm dumb dumb
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>>575924770
Reality is boring.
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>>575923997
You are mentally ill
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>heldivers got melta and long las before rejects
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>>575925909
and it looks like dogshit, they got the short end of the stick and it's already know that the melta and new weapons will eventually come to darktide, when though??? i dont fucking know
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>>575923868
I always like glaive, and it has some axe-like cosmetics which is probably as close as you are going to get
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Shroudfield feels so underwhelming.
Hope that shit gets a rework soon.
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>>575926170
>it's already know that the melta and new weapons will eventually come to darktide
New weapons? Yes. Melta though? No. Not at all confirmed and never was.
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>>575923868
What the everloving fuck is this supposedly big difference between glaive and "greataxe"
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>>575927158
I hope it gets removed from the game because stealth is a stupid ass mechanic in games like this.
Only reason why stealth even exists in Darktide is purely because it existed in VT2 where it was also a mistake.
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>>575928553
>what is this big difference between a brettonian longsword and a sword
>what is this big difference between a combat axe and a tactical axe
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>>575928884
Yes.
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>*pingping* *pingping* *pingping*
AAAAAAAA SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID SKITTLERS
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>>575929925
for me it's just
>*ping* .... *ping* .... *ping*
because i'm smart enough to check the options menu
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>>575928561
I mostly agree, although I think there's one acceptable implementation of stealth across both games and it's bardin's smoke bomb, IF you ignore the talent that lets you keep stealth despite moving out of the AoE.
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>>575928420
the melta that is the game files since release actually got updated with the skitarii patch, which means we might see it SOON
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>>575930629
It being in the files for almost a half a decade is precisely why it most likely why it won't be added.
Only reason why it was even "updated" was probably purely done because that's just how the Fatshark's internal code systems work. What I mean is if they didn't update the "melta gun" in the code with some superficial bullshit, like renaming a file, then it'd BRICK the entire game.
You know full well that the swedes are dumb enough to design it like this.
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>>575932372
Nooo don't dispel the illusion, how will the poor turd-worlder with his incomprehensibly thick turdie accent make another hype video!!
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>>575925415
Banger
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you're all going to feel real stupid when SoB arrives with melta guns
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>>575918451
The third person mod is the most disgusting of them all.
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>>575933235
I already feel stupid for still playing this garbage game
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>>575933235
no they won't, they'll conveniently forget they ever doubted it or ever said they didn't want it
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>>575933235
Still coping about the shitters of butthole?

Sisters will never happen because it's the space marine situation. If sisters arrive the game and story are over.
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>>575920469
>bot ally
Ironbreaker bot is better than 95% of Legend playerbase. Honestly, you are griefing yourself if you don't play with bots until Legend
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>>575933947
sisters are already present in vast numbers, there is a shrine world
they are not that strong, shut the fuck up
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>>575928884
Yes
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>>575932372
Anon, have you even looked at the video concerning why Melta is still being considered as likely to be added over other weapons that were similarly updated? It's following a schema that Fatshark uses since the crafting and mastery overhaul.

It's really easy to explain since I know you won't look at it, but essentially if a weapon has recently had the full mastery icon added, then Fatshark are still playing around with the weapon. If they added it back when the update occurred, they probably aren't. If they haven't added it period, they absolutely aren't touching it. This is corroborated by the dates since the last time the associated files were modified by Fatshark. Melta was modified pretty recently. Others? Not so much.
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>>575915590
>>575913221
i only want it if they look like this
>>575916017
>>575919129
no why would that be the case
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>>575921496
>Corsair
Still not happening
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>>575936384
And all this shit you are talking about are the exact "tweak the files" shit to prevent bricking their game.
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>>575913312
I miss seeing these things everywhere. Good times.
>>575913432
More like bad voice direction, if they didn’t tell her to do that weird nasally thing she does with her voice and annunciate things strangely she would be fine like she is in other games.
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>>575937460
They added art assets with the Skitarii update for various weapons because if they didn't it would break the game?
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>>575932372
I still have hope for it, I could be wrong or right, it can take 5 years or a whole new Darktide game to get it added, but I'll wait for it
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>>575935424
>they are not that strong
They are. Also sisters aren't limited to the whole "1000 soldiers only" rule like marines.
Sister orders have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of battle sisters in them ready to kill shit.
Sisters will never arrive because they will burn entirety of Atoma to the ground. And yes, they would all do this because they are that fanatical and the Admonition has gone on far too long and they are summoning fucking daemons and making daemonhosts at this point.
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>>575927158
What's really fucked up about it is that the niche that it has doesn't even work in H40 because bosses have so much HP.

You need external help to be able to 1shot anything.
It can't even fulfil an off-meta meme role alone.
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>>575937529
>brooo they added art assets of more weapons that will never happen in the future
Sure got me there.
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>>575938025
>They are
stopped reading there
they're ordinary human beings, they are not genetically enhanced super soldiers, shut the fuck up
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>Every Ogryn is now running Mr. E's garbage "meta" build in havoc
This is almost as bad as the Ogrynomicon era of shitgryn builds.
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>>575938765
I'll take anything over Ogryns with slabsheild doing negative dmg while the rest of the team hard carry their retarded ass.
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>>575938765
>>Every Ogryn is now
Every ogryn is running a dogshit build in general, which is a real fucking shame because I want one most games, but so many applicants are just retarded as fuck.
Then again, I could list what makes a good ogryn build that produces good numbers, and then get the most retarded lowercase detractors imaginable from brownoids who play neither havoc nor ogryn.
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>>575938229
I accept your concession.
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>H24-25 parties disband after the first successful run even when it's our first
>Rejected out of every H26+
Guess I'll have to start hosting my own to push further
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>>575939264
what is a good ogryn build
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What's the /dtg/ approved ogryn havoc build?
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>>575939435
Brittleness spam with a primarily ranged focus with GG and FNP if you like taunt. Often uses either a pickaxe to apply brittleness and deal big damage with medium investment, or paul for Skullcrusher.
PBB rumbler spam otherwise, taking basically zero melee investment.

Ogryn uses ammo better than any other class and should thus get all of it. If your vet needs ammo, he has a shit build and should get declined.

Watch the retarded replies from havoc larpers roll in.
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>>575939516
No matter what gets posted, it will be mocked and declared an autoreject.
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>>575939078
Slab Shield remains the best weapon for Ogryn in any team comp that doesn't have psyker bubble. there's a mild case to be made for power maul and branx/karsolas in a point blank barrage rumbler build.

And if you run psyker bubble comps in havoc 40 you're such a massive dicksucking homosexual skillet that there is nothing left to say
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>>575939516
the uninstall wizard
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>>575939721
Stop being so insecure, I just want a build.
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>>575939772
>Slab Shield remains the best weapon for Ogryn in any team comp that doesn't have psyker bubble.
The only thing that makes the shield good is its extremely powerful push synergizing well with push brittleness/taunt.
>bubble
What the fuck do you do with it, block gunners like you're playing auric? Stop pretending.
>what are smokes
retard
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>>575939931
I don't know I don't play Ogryn.
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>>575939516
PBB and BLO Rumbler

At least if I want to win. Pug ogryns in havoc thinking they're being useful tanking are cute. They could just be exploding everything for the team instead.
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>>575910954
Yeah, pressing the button once the other guys are done smashing the ice of a particular section.
Not hammering it like they get 1k diamantine per button press, which is what I've seen others do at times.
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>>575939516
Mulch Build.

Dakka all the problems away.
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>>575940230
>Pug ogryns in havoc thinking they're being useful tanking are cute.
The weird thing is that ogryn can still hit 1.5-2 million damage numbers in reasonably paced runs just by spamming the GG, if you give all the ammo to the ogryn, which you should by default. This is while spamming taunt and using FNP.
TOOOONKgryns are useless because they don't know how to play, but the idea of manipulating aggro with taunt and being a tanky motherfucker is very much viable, you just need to actually use your fucking secondary slot.
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>>575940024
>What the fuck do you do with it, block gunners like you're playing auric? Stop pretending.
It blocks attacks while you spam the push attack while advancing into gunners dumbass

Assuming the ogryn isn't retarded you can bumrush anything while doing damage and staggering everything. Power maul cucks can't do shit unless their smoke or bubble daddy carries them.
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>>575913175
I just don't think that the maps in darktide will be enjoyable to play as a sniper focused class who can struggle peeking over railings.
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>>575940708
>builds that rely on actually having a team = carried cuckolds
Found the slavgroid. At least that confirms there is no discussion to be had because the fetal alcohol syndrome malformed your skull too much to house a healthy brain. Just shut the fuck up, retard.
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you haven't truly beaten h40 if your team included any of the following:
>psyker
>piss zealot
>piss vet / smoke nades
>tauntgryn
>premades
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Warhammer Fantasy is just so funny to me because the average guy doesn’t even have a crummy lasgun or pistol or anything Elector Counts just toss them a spear and a feathered hat and expect them to go fight stuff like pic related anyway
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>>575941002
you haven't truly beaten h40 if you didn't true solo at 60 fov 30 fps on a console using TV speakers as a veteran with 0 skill points invested using only gray weapons with 0% mobility.
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>>575941002
shut up anime loli
*breeds you vigorously*
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>>575940921
>advocating for people to run trash builds that absolutely needs one of two specific builds from one of two specific classes to not be dead weight
damn, i hope i never have someone as useless as you on my team
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>>575941350
I like how you're directly confirming that the very concept of synergy is so alien to your FAS-addled brain, you cannot fathom it being effective, draft dodging faggot.
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Lawful Psyker really did just say "Heretics are a product of Socio-Economic factors"
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>>575941521
>a shitter being hyperreliant on his teammates thinks calling it synergy will make him less of a shit player
bet you spend more time in the lfg than in the game
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>>575942078
And here we can see the slavgroid struggling with his anathema: The very concept of teamwork.
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>>575941701
what do you expect from someone who randomly yells
>sex with minors 7 7
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>>575942195
how's that teamwork working out for you?

one in ten havoc 40s won because your "team" folds the moment a crucial teammate got fucked up?
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>>575942534
Ever the fickle creature, the juvenile slavgroid continues to try and bait his superiors. In his endless pursuit of being seen as masculine and strong (which the slavgroid's culture shows almost exclusively through violent domination, often resorting to homoerotic rape and domestic abuse), he tries to argumentatively "rape" his opponent. He does not realize that, in doing so, he is completing yet another humiliation ritual, for the rest of the board finds little more than amusement in his fickle attempt to peacock with feathers that he does not possess.
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>>575938289
You think you need to be a super human to use guns that just vaporize metal?
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>>575943385
I'm not sure what point you think you're making, veteran is in game holding the plasma gun already, the meltagun is not a special piece of equipment exclusive to sororitas
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Are the "slavgroids" in the room with us now?
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Funny how all of these arguments could get instantly solved by someone posting a video of themselves playing [ogryn build of choice] and beating a havoque fortee without being carried
But they won't
Because nobody here plays darktide
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>>575943620
You're retarded. Got it.
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>>575943730
I play Darktide and i have fun leveling characters and doing penances in my Auric games :)
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>>575943730
>yeah dude just shake a fully recorded havoc 40 run out of your sleeve while still relevant to the discussion
Hell yeah let me just quickly speedrun a mission in 15 minutes
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>>575943757
>I have no argument but I must screech
terrifying
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>>575943730
>Because nobody here plays darktide
I do. Got H40 and even got H40 with pre-rework ogryn using shield and kickback.
And I only play ogryn, I just don't share my builds or give advice because none of you deserve it.
However havoc still fucking sucks.
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>>575943705
Every lowercase poster is subhuman, tide games are turd-worlder games because they're frequently discounted.
Then venn diagrams are very nearly a circle, I think you can figure it out because it's pretty self-evident.
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>>575944018
Pre rework ogryn means pre rework havoc which had like current heresy intensity
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>Every lowercase poster is subhuman
his asshole, gaped
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>>575944135
third worlders play L4D, no SEA monkey or slavnigger has a pc that can run darktide. MAYBE vermintide
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>>575944135
Which flavor of beady-eyed angloid mutt are you?
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>>575944354
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>>575943945
Surely you've played darktide before. Surely you've completed 40s with your favourite ogryn build before. And yet you haven't recorded a single one to prove you play darktide and shut down anyone who calls your build bad because everyone can plainly see you doing well with it
You come in here, make claims willy-nilly and expect me to believe you with no proof? You spend 45 minutes arguing about ogryn builds on 4chan, but don't have 45 minutes to record yourself playing ogryn?
>575944018
You don't even deserve a (You)
>>575943936
Post the last penance you completed as proof of having fun
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>>575945852
>defending prooftards
Please kill yourself, and then provide proof that you did.
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>>575944283
Old havoc was more difficult than havoc is now.
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>>575944607
You only need a gtx 960 to run darktide.
T. Knower
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>>575944354
I change my capitalization in order to change my perceived identity. If I get owned/bodied/destroyed using lowercase, I switch to perfectly capitalized letters and pretend like nothing happened.
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I'm considering uninstalling the True Level mod after only 3 days.
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>>575947873
>character level 1500+
>havoc rank 20
That should tell you everything you need to know. There is no confusion to be had here. The wounds and reason do not surprise me in the slightest.
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>>575940589
>the idea of manipulating aggro with taunt and being a tanky motherfucker is very much viable
it's also called tanking.
for some very strange reason /copeg/ thinks tanking = holding block
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Ogryn taunt should aggro monstrosities as well.
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>>575941112
Sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do or else the realms of men are forfeit.
I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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>>575949049
i believe it used to, no idea why they removed that capability
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>>575949049
I thought it did but you made me look it up and it doesn't? Somehow the ogryn I play with are always so good at taking monstrosity aggro that I was fooled into thinking that it just werks.
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>buy kf3 on a key site for the price of a single kebab
>get to level 30, max my shit out
>play the highest difficulty
>every round is this
the game was bad, the playerbase is worse
I'm done
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>>575949983
One kebab
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>be a worshiper of the great grandfather on Atoma
>have been sending poxwalkers rigged with explosives at loyalist strike teams for weeks now
>the entire time, have had the traitor cogboys attach obnoxious blaring alarms to them so everyone can hear them coming from miles away
>loyalists get used to it and only go on guard when they hear the noise
>all at once we take away the alarms
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>>575950284
Hope Fatshark makes this an event
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>>575950284
>our own men start accidentally standing in front of the bursters as they're doing their suicide run, prematurely detonating them
>our casualties from friendly fire are now in the millions
>can't stop thinking about that stupid three eyed bird in my dream that made this seem like a really good idea
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>>575949719
Taunt's interaction with monsters is weird. It technically works as advertised, but monsters have this weird sticky aggro lock where they autistically focus down one player until an internal timer trips another aggro check and subsequently target switch.
If this wasn't bad enough already, ogryn's taunt also doesn't have a high enough aggro score, but even if it DID, the timer-based aggro switch still fucks you over.
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>>575921496
We won't get xenos classes because fatshit wants to pad the mastery trees with a bunch of options, fatshit is too lazy to make a large selection of new weapons for the xenos, and GW won't let the xenos use the mk1 shovel.
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>>575920469
I'm fond of Unchained bot myself.
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me and my russian gf
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>>575954214
Russian GF on the right btw
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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I've been gone for so long, is weeks of no comms from fatshark just the norm now? are we looking at another month before we get anything at all in terms of communication?
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>>575955706
Yes and yes, and if anything is unclear, take the most competent thing you can imagine, and assume it's somehow even more retarded, because that's how things work in sviiden.
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>>575956176
>the most competent
incompetent*, whoops.
Should be obvious that I wouldn't dare call Sw*doids competent.
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>>575955706
>is weeks of no comms from fatshark just the norm now
>now
hahaha
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>>575925415
its supposed to make you want to leave so that dogshit stops
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>>575923695
This is only possible because newly joined players (including bot replacements) have damage immunity for a few seconds
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>>575941701
It's literally the truth. The imperium creates the most chaos
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>>575938025
>They are
we had this discussion in the last thread. no they aren't, look at their fucking stats. SM and CSM are much more powerful, much more resilient and much more expensive per model
>muh books
in most books they aren't either.
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>join pvp
>one team has hellbrute
>other doesnt
nice mode retards just 3 games and I can fuck off
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>>575957835
I mean yeah duh no shit. I just didn't expect to actually hear "Socio-Economic Factors".

I mean I dunno I just found it funny because of what it's usually said as here on the funny racism site.
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>>575959606
now that you mention it, would he browse the grimdark equivalent of 4chan?
what would be his favorite board? what kind of posts would he make?
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>>575960168
Savant would be the one psyker not on image boards. Seer would exclusively spend his time in cyoa threads on /tg/, and loner would definitely use the site mainly for xenos porn on /trash/.
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>>575941112
Yup. While 40k is certainly more ‘grimdark’ Fantasy doesn’t slack off far behind in a lot of ways.
>>575944607
They literally make up the entirety of the VT2 VS playerbase now pretty sure.
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>>575957835
No it doesn’t. It certainly helps in a roundabout way but the endless wars waged by everyone across the galaxy “creates the most chaos”.
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>>575944634
proved his point award
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>>575941112
You're right, what are they, fucking retarded? How come they haven't yet developed and completely adapted sling technology? Read the fucking bible lmao idiots slings are so fucking deadly and effective it's actually kinda comical how unfair they are
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Damn, a decent psyker with a flame staff just dominates in kills.
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>>575957990
>retard mistakes physical power of a single individual for destructive power of an entire group, in this case an entire military force of a single Sister of Battle order
This is the same level of retarded, if I mentioned that the ENTIRE US army could kill ONE SINGLE (1) 40k space marine easily, and then you start saying shit like "Uhm akchually space marines are stronger than regular humans.nerd.png" like it fucking matters.
What you're saying isn't wrong, but you're entirely retarded.
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>>575950284
>Swedish progressive game devs be like
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Attention: A new mission is available in Transit Hub HL-16-11
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>>575965320
Slings are available to skaven. Empire uses handguns.
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>>575968740
A starving filthy ultra-pleb can fashion a sling and learn how to use it. He could never afford a gun.
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>>575969050
the appeal of crossbows and later guns was that you could equip a small army of poorly trained conscripts and have them do maximum damage. Slings and bows were theoretically better for warfare during the era of early firearms but both required the user to have trained almost since childhood to achieve proficiency with these implements. Equipping your army with guns is just the efficient way of doing things because no war is ever cheap so you're looking at being efficient with the manpower you have.
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>>575967582
NOW HEAR THIS.
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>join ungoing Maelstrom
>the group is close to the end event
>you quickly realise why someone left
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>>575970565
>joining match in progress
>it's the moebium steel smelter mission
>you know exactly where and in what situation you're going to spawn into
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>>575970816
eh it's a toss up, could be on the ladder section or could be hogtied in the first fucking arena event
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>>575967105
>an entire military force of a single Sister of Battle order
jobs to a full strength chapter and a full CSM legion would be enough to wreck a subsector if they could stick to a single purpose for long enough

marines are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than SOB, SOB are only relevant in lore because they tend to deploy in much larger strength. but their corresponding units aren't actually stronger than the marines', they are just less scattered because their job is defending whatever corrupt gay shit the ecclesiarchy gets up to rather than actually fighting the enemies of mankind so they can just chill in their whorehouses rather than constantly having to put out fires all over the galaxy in small detachments.
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>>575966784
rampage scum or arc rifle skittles will cannibalize a huge fraction of their final kill count and DPS if you have both. because they both have similar engagement zones but kill more quickly. psyker has more uptime but in all but the highest havoc difficulties there just isn't enough shit to kill
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>Troonderhammer
>bolbgun
>chorus
>retarded teammates
And that's how I ended up being the fuckign ranged sniper of the group
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>>575944607
>no SEA monkey or slavnigger has a pc that can run darktide
I have a pc that can run darktide. Just barely though so thanks for the rescue, my animations were stuttering when I got dogged under 3 flamers.

t. eastern european
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HEY LOYALISTS LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEE I HAVE SMELLY FEET! HAHAHAH TAKE A SNIFF!

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>575913304
>>575913952
>>575914253
>>575914568
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>>575972502
Yeah, it was me (a vet) two flamestaff psykers and a arc rifle skittie. I was lucky to get a kill in.
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>one ogryn is roleplaying accurate ogryn intelligence
>another ogryn apparently using tank controls
>melee vet
This is what I get for slumming it
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>>575972343
>jobs to a full strength chapter
During age of apostasy Sisters of Battle order held like 12 chapters of space marines at bay and prevented them from invading the Imperial Palace.
So no, they are not weaker.
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Goku is stronger than Superman because that's how I wrote it in my fan fiction
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>>575941112
That’s a large part of its appeal imo. The odds are stacked against you but the Empire leverages its man power, magic, tech and high level fighters in such a way that they manage to hang on
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>teammate has the same character personality than me
I leave.
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>>575975770
all fiction is fan fiction
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>>575976354
This keeps happening with my friends and me everytime a new class has rolled out. We almost all end up liking the same personality and then a couple of use will swap so our guys actually talk in mission
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>>575976425
not when it's official, then it's canon until Disney buy it and declare it's not canon anymore
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>>575972343
Amazing, every single thing you just said is completely wrong.

There are only a million space marines, because there are 1000 chapters and each chapter is about 1000 men. There are some that are understaffed due to losses, while there are others like the Black Templars that cheat and have more than 1000. But it's a good average. A million men cannot hold anything up on a galactic scale. The imperium is "millions (plural) of worlds, with untold teeming trillions of souls". The Astartes are a small scalpel that goes to important battles, but they are only a million people. They do some important noteworthy things but they're the smallest imperial armed force by a large margin.

The real heavy liters when it comes to actually making the imperium work are planetary defense forces, the navy, the adepta sororitas, and the imperial guard. There are many billions of imperial guard and adepta sororitas, and they do the vast majority of the heavy lifting behind the scenes to keep the imperium afloat. While marines deploy strategically and make what impact they can with their limited numbers by doing individually important things.

You're also wrong that the SoB don't fight enemies. They do that constantly, SoB are deployed against chaos and xenos constantly, and they're even preferred to deploy against chaos compared to Guard because of their natural faith-based resistance to chaos. They specialize in human heretical adversaries, but they also specialize in chaos adversaries, and these are often one in the same since chaos erupts where there are heretics, and vice-versa.

I don't know how you manged to be wrong about everything you said. I don't know who is out there manufacturing false information about various scifi and fantasy settings that then gets disseminated over the internet. How does stuff like this even get started, assuming you didn't make it up yourself.
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Remember the SoB pony tranny
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>new character so only uprising unlocked
>get matched with three level 13
>they won't do objectives
>don't even go near them so have to juggle rushing towards the objective and then back to revive and rescue them
Man it's kinda fun to carry newbies but also a little stressful having to babysit so much lmao. And I'm not even that good of a player myself but this was just hilarious to see
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>>575977880
That's what I don't really understand with new players. I don't remember being THAT retarded when I started playing. Like, I know when there's an objective that it's better to follow it? Ok I came from vermintide, but still...
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>>575976354
Another dumb design decision in Darktide. They wanted to allow class stacking without there being duplicate Krubers ruining atmosphere. Instead they overdesigned this feature with pointless character creation, which caused more issues in the end.

Repeating personalities are a thing in the end, which ends up no different than playing on mods with two Saltzpyres. In fact, it's impossible to make wholly unique Guardsman squad since there are only 3 personalities. But 6 voice actors they have to pay and get every time they want to record something. Another, big issue, they were so afraid of, which is why they came up with a Career system for VT2, just to use as fewest VAs as possible.
And character creation turned out to be shit anyway

All they had to do was to not bother with females and simply make 4 premade characters per class and the issue would be solved. Trivial solution really. And even writing would feel more natural with characters being able to use their names.
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>>575975498
Didn’t they have several other forces backing them up
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Hi dorktides, I'm from /hdg/.
I'm just here because I've heard about the meltagun issue, and.... pff-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA OHNONONONONO *WHEEEZEE*
That's all.
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>>575978965
what's the meltagun issue? it's not a great gun in Helldivers 2? I saw the armors looked like shit
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>>575978965
i know right, every sissydiver was hyped up for the collab warbond only to be disappointed because it's pure dogshit lol!
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>>575979314
We got the meltagun before before them.
The same meltagun that has been in their game files before launch.
The warbond is going to be shit, but the meltagun situation is hilarious.
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>>575977880
I really, seriously wonder what the average noob game looks like, even in uprising. Do they just take 40 minutes of bumbling around with 20 deaths, until they accidentally bump into an objective?
>>575978073
I guess there is always a non-zero chance that it's the literal first time that child is touching a mouse and keyboard, and is massively struggling with just the controls, so all awareness goes out the window.
>>575978083
Is that fucking Alien Swarm?
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>>575979423
pretty sure no one cares about it except for redditors, in the end, helldivers got the short end of the stick because all of the weapons look bad and not as cool compared to other w40k games
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>>575979423
but the meltagun thing was barely talked here?
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>>575978073
>>575979545
darktide was my first tide game but i was already aware of how it worked when i saw a gameplay video, i believe the average new player that never touched a game like this thinks its just l4d but with a w40k skin slapped on top, but its obviously way different and way more unforgiving
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honestly the brap plasma is more fun to use than the pierce plasma
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Helldiver redditor thought he had a "gotcha" moment lol
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>>575979423
if you check the last thread, you will pretty much see us laughing at baseddivers getting a shitty warbond, however i do still feel blueballed for the meltagun to be available in darktide (yet)
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>>575979783
It is also better than the other one on skitty
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>>575978965
n-nooo... y-you just watch. fatshark is going to come back from vacation, a-and then we'll get an ogryn nerf... a-and... and a new maul!!
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trickcal + darktide collab one day
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>>575978083
Man I miss AS
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>>575980076
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>>575979916
NYEHEHE NOW THAT'S A GOOD REACTION! AND IT WILL GET WAY WORSE FOR YOU ANONS, WE'LL GET MORE AND MORE GOYSLOP IN OUR REDDITFRIENDLY GAME AND YOU WON'T GET ANY!
>>575979392
>>575979572
>>575979646
>>575979868
>>575979791
F-fuark... at least pretend to care... I-I... apolocheese b-bweeeeehhh...!
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so this is the average /hdg/ poster?
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>>575978198
The sisters still did vast majority of the heavy lifting during the siege.
The fluff specifically calls it out how incredible it is that just bunch of power armored fanatical women can keep something like marines at bay.
Sisters are 100% equivelant to space marines, but people constantly underestimate them only because they aren't gene enhanced superhumans.
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>>575980660
It's not like they have a game to play.
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>>575980660
They really didn't send their best huh
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>>575980076
>>575979916
>>575978965
>>575979392
Let me join in too I love these :) (we will get it soon though trust the plan)
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i love these lil interactions even though they're almost borderline off topic, what are some darktide class builds for this kind of feel?
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>>575980508
Get slimmed, retard
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I'm pretty sure this faggot is sock puppeting for some daft reason.
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I like helldivers but i find you /coopg/ peeps nicer to talk with, there's too many slurpers in /hdg/
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>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T FUNPOST WHILE DISCUSSING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, STOOOOOP IT
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>>575978083
>>575979545
>>575980175
Let's play Alien Swarm.
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>>575979868
>however i do still feel blueballed for the meltagun to be available in darktide
You'll be blue balled forever since they will never add the damn thing.
For a simple reason that melta guns are actual anti-tank weapons that vaporize metal and 1 shot tanks effortlessly.
So only way to make a meltagun feel like a melta gun it would need to like 1 shot monstrosities, nevermind the captains/twins who are just regular ass humans wearing a mixture of flak and carapace armor.
Even carapace armor gets fucked by meltas, a single melta shot can instantly kill a space marine.
It's how Huron almost died and only reason why the fucker ever did survive was by selling his own and his chapther to the Chaos Gods just so he could have a chance of taking revenge at the Imperium.
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>>575981547
I don't know why, but some people hate Reactive Drop
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>clutching like a madman for 3 minutes
>dodge then suddenly I start going up
>a fucking ladder
>The whole Nurgle army starts bumfucking me
Thanks Fatshark
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>>575981775
>by selling his own
by selling his own soul*
Forgot to add that.
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Yep. It's gaming time.
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>>575980810
>Sisters are 100% equivelant to space marines
not on an individual level they’re not
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>>575981775
shouldn't this also be applied to the plasma gun? regular humans including captains should be turned into a red mist always because there's no way a regular cultist can tank one shot from that thing
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>>575981775
It doesn’t have to one shot everything to feel satisfying. It does have to be powerful though. The captains/twins also have their force fields though.
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>>575982185
NTA, but yes. Plasma fucks up heavy infantry and tanks while evaporating basic mooks. Both have heavier versions too
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>>575982906
so what he said isn't a proper excuse to not add meltaguns, darktide isnt a "realistic" w40k game so.... it doesnt really matter
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>>575982185
You can argue that shit with bolters and bolt pistols too, arguably you should be able to 1 shot captains to the head with a well placed headshot but you can't for balance sakes. Plasma gun is getting there in being egregious. Plasma can be used for punching through armor but you need to specifically overcharge it to make it happen, and that is dangerous to do. But Melta doesn't have this overcharge problem, it's main downside is short range.

But there's a point where things get fucking silly even from balancing perspective vs lore descriptions. Like Meltas, they are specifically described to be tank melting weapons that just vaporize everything in its path. Turning something like that into something that is in comparison a shittier short range plasmagun just feels insulting.
It'd just be better to not have it at all at that point.
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>>575975498
sisters getting a miracle during pivotal moments is a common trope
an individual sister just operating normally, not suddenly being possessed by her lesbian deity, isn't special
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ill be honest i have no idea what a "meltagun" is guns are for faggots
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>>575983001
Technically 40k is wildly inconsistent so none of any of it is "accurate". Tabletop included. Plus I've only seen multi-meltas and the special armiger and knight meltas one-shot tanks. Regular meltas are rarely used in the TT if you have other options because their range is just too short. I think we haven't gotten meltas because they're more work than other guns, would be class restricted to vet, and the devs working on weapon design (provided some exist) couldn't figure out what they wanted it to do
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>>575981775
add a daemon engine enemy as a boss fight so there will be a reason to use it
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>>575973904
>playing with a vet who can do something besides shoot their recon las
nice to flex you're getting the pro lobbies
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>>575983018
>they are specifically described to be tank melting weapons that just vaporize everything in its path.
Source? They’re powerful of course but they take time to do their thing and don’t just poof everything out of existence from what I remember of depictions in novels and codexes.
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>>575966784
>Game about shooting hordes
>Class has a weapon that can hit an infinite amount of hordes in its huge area of effect
>Devs have to spam bosses and ogryns to make the game actually difficult because they're the only enemies that don't get instantly cleared
Maybe smoke staff should get a nerf rather than the devs spamming more bullshit until their engine struggles to accommodate it.
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>>575983631
A stolen sentinel would be a cool fight. I think any of the DG daemon engines might be too much since there isn't a DG presence. That Frenchman's converted LoS and the rest of his DG stuff is amazing. He was behind most of the DG line
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>>575978083
>In fact, it's impossible to make wholly unique Guardsman squad since there are only 3 personalities.
There are actual banters between male and female with the same personality, at least for the base classes I've seen, the most common one is between male and female Professional. Since how the game was designed as Vet only game.
There is a rare 4-way banter for Vet, 2:49
https://youtu.be/YdbjY_4YkV8?si=HeGT5OIgWBG9H2uZ&t=169
An old 3-way banter between Vets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFFuNvBkwfk
If you have like 3 Zealot with a female Agitator, Judge and Fanatic. There is a rare chance where Agitator asks to start a singing chanting,
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>single shot vigilant autogun with skitarii aim ability and autoclick macro
holy shit this actually feels awesome to use
like an extremely high powered IAG
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>>575983315
There were no miracles mentioned in those accounts.
Sisters just measured up and fully stalled 12 chapters of marines.
They are on par with marines no matter how much you cope about it.
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>>575984380
I tried use the 3 burst variant on my piss vision vet and holy shit it felt bad. I honestly felt like I griefed the team by bringing that piece of shit gun and I was just playing auric.
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does cleave helps with the new shield ennemies? or it's "ignore mass" shit?
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>>575984380
Didn't try it with an autoclick macro, but it's a fun thing to do
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>>575984563
The biggest problem with VAGs is the super finicky hit detection, which the aimbot ult fixes completely.
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I never got to test this out, but if you played modded ratclick with 4 necros, wouldn't it be possible to have like 50 skeletons on screen at once?
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>>575984380
I just did a mission with the burst vigilant autogun and it felt very underwhelming. Am I using it wrong?
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>snipe 50 low level havoc missions from the party finder
>make sure at least one is a 25
now i have all the havoc cosmetics and i shan't touch this gamemode anymore
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>>575987154
>ruining your penance page with h*voc cheevos
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>>575984563
It really needs marksman's focus to make it feel right.
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>>575987154
That basically what I did + climbing to 40 with friends. It's a fun challenge, but I just don't need the resources so I just don't care about the weekly rewards. People in low level havocs are a special kind of dumb that's fun to watch sometimes
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>>575985384
The burst fire ones aren't very good and feel awkward with autoclick since the shots aren't evenly paced. But the high damage one that fires single shots is like an IAG with double the damage since you get practically guaranteed weakspot hits with your ult.
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getting an inactivity warning as I wait for another player to join my maelstrom
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>>575989273
F
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>how it feels like to bonk poxies with a powered up arc maul
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>>575989273
if the mission falls off the mission board they can't quickplay into it. Idk how much time was left on it when you booted up but there's a good chance it's not even there anymore and no one is joining
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>>575989674
>every swing he's taking out at least a dozen dudes
imagine being next in line
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>>575990206
They all think they're gonna be the one to cut his ring off
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>>575987458
sour grapes. Have you tried to git gud?
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>>575976565
this place is mostly secondaries who don't know the lore and have never touched a model or a paintrbush so it makes sense they don't know anything
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>>575991059
Loretubers also consistently get stuff wrong or overly interject their own opinions with a lot of them being kind of casual and just skimming wahapedia
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>>575989770
Yeah, I queued as soon as it appeared on the mission board.
I knew of that issue, so I waited for the old one to reset.

>>575989635
I found a few players shortly after making my post.
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>>575984416
No.

If every space marine fought against every SoB as a factional war, the SoB would win quite handily. There are multiple billion more of them. As I said earlier, there are only a million astartes. You people seem to forget about scale. There are multiple million SoB for every single marine, and that is not an exaggeration. There are one million marines, while there are multiple billion SoB. The marines would drown in scale.

But if you're talking about individually? No again. SoB do not "measure up" nor are they "on par". Marines are stronger, faster, taller, and their physiology is augmented at the DNA level. Both of them are wearing power armor, but the marine's power armor interfaces directly into their body for seamless agility. Their muscles actually tell the power armor's servos how to move, so their strength is fully integrated into the armor. SoB wear very good armor, but it is still a separate suit they are wearing. SoB do not have a black carapace, which is the augment that integrates a marine's muscle structure with the armor.

Unarmored, marines are better.
Armored, marines are better.
But factionally, the act that there are billions more SoB would make them win on a grand scale. But on a squad scale, like 1v1 or 5v5 or even 12v12, Marines win every time.

>>575991059
I've been playing for about 20 years and have read a bunch of the books and stuff, so I'm happy to be here answering questions to new people who picked up the hobby from videogames. I'm happy lots of people are interested and I like sharing.
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>>575924770
>popsci shortslop
>nigga changes the position of the camera relative to the beam's approximate plane of traversal
>"This is a paradox!!!"
I hate youtumors so much it's unreal. He's just using popsci buzzword to farm engagement from people like me.
Also, is this apparent "paradox" not just the result of the light refracting as it travels through the air in his garage?
>angle of refraction when bouncing away results in the light traveling along a longer geodesic and, thus, appearing to move slower
>angle of refracting when returning results in a shorter geodesic path, so it appears to move faster
Hell, you can even see the length of the path in the clips shown from the first camera. If I'm wrong, I should demand my college revoke my degree.
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>>575992163
>If every space marine fought against every SoB as a factional war, the SoB would win quite handily.
isnt this not quite right due to the fact that only so many people can be engaged at a time, having more people doesnt actually mean anything if only a fraction can engage the enemy at a time
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>>575915921
hairy ratling girl feet...
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>>575925415
This is what plays at a skaven rave.
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>>575976565
Nitpicking but
>teeming trillions
Way more depending on your source.
>they're the smallest imperial armed force by a large margin.
Not really. That probably goes to Assassins. Both serve a similar function though.
>billions of imperial guard
Also way more.
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>>575975498
>completely mundane women fight as well as genetically engineered super soldiers
Why does this sound like extremely bad writing from a raging feminist?
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>>575992163
Don’t forget that countless sources stress over and over again that there’s a world of difference between the plated power armor Marines wear and what every other non-marine wears. It’s way heavier, more durable, etc.
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Isn't there some lines about some SoB saints artifacts being lost in the underhive or something?
FS could just handwave it saying some SoB pilgrims or novitiates who came looking for the artifacts got involved.
Gives them a shitty excuse to explain why they aren't there in full force and burning everything down etc.
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NOW HEAR THIS: ALL REJECTS REPORT TO THE COMMODORE FOR MANDATORY PENIS INSPECTION DAY POSTHASTE
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>>575998776
>skitarii on penis inspection day
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>>575998776
Why are you gay?
>>575999653
Skitarii aren't rejects you dummy. Only base classes have that title now.
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>>575999653
>not having a bionic mega penis
ngmi
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>>575998776
Iz roite thar saar
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>>576000231
then why on a mission with 4 skits does morrow say "LISTEN UP REJECTS!"
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>>576000423
Same reason Hadron still complains about Grendyl refusing to requisition skitarii
>It's not the hat shop so who gives a fuck
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>>576000401
mistress hadron would never allow it
she likes her boys smooth down there
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>>575998768
They're gonna be added eventually, it's an inevitability simply because Fatshark will get around to it as a class idea, if not the next class, then some future addition. Whatever it looks like or whatever justification they'll use doesn't matter much.
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>some random, troon-derangement syndrome anon thinks only troons want SoB
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>>575998768
The planet is important to Saint Mellisandra(or whatever their OC saint's name is) and there might be an Imperial Knight lost somewhere too according to the vet expeditions cosmetics flavor text
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>>575999653
>not having the special USB implant
Is this what it's like when your magos doesn't love you?
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Is gun ogryn as good as it feels to play or am I griefing by not going the middle tree for support?
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>>576001217
If you're using the rumbler or grenade gauntlet, yes, if any other weapon, you're griefing
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>>576000740
>troon-derangement syndrome
What?
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>>576000740
We know for a fact there's a troon here who wants them really badly.
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>>576001217
Rumbler with PBB is arguably the strongest damage role at the moment up there with Inferno Psyker.

You're still griefing by playing it since most of your team won't get to play if you play it correctly.
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I don't like brittleness
It feels like slag from borderlands 2, a solution to a problem it causes by existing
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>>576002169
the difference here is that brittleness affects the weapon applying it, unlike slag
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>>575996119
The population of Terra alone could reasonably be calculated to be in the quadrillions using the Kowloon Walled City as a base for population density. The galactic population is likely in the quintillions with the Guard having hundreds of trillions or quadrillions of soldiers.
But for some reason GW is afraid of any number bigger than "uncounted billions"
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>>576001320
>>576001909
What about twin linked heavy stubber?
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>>576003510
Griefing
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What Darktide classes need buffs and what would you change on them?
>Skitarii needs grenade regen
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>>576003510
The heavy stubber is garbage and you're a liability for taking it
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>>576003510
It's fine on Auric
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>>576004213
Is it better or worse than the ripper gun?
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>>576004746
All guns(and staves) are worse than the ripper gun.
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So the Phosphor Blast Pistol applies:
>15% brittleness (15% max, independent of other sources)
>-90% hit mass
>1 stack of special burn (1 stack max, independent of other sources)
Are there any situations the -90% hit mass actually matters?
It still doesn't allow you to leave Carapace.
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>>576005468
It shreds through crowds of poxxers to hit those pesky specialists on the other side, very ammo efficient.
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>>576007135
>needing to shoot through crowds when you have extendolegs
don't tell me you made your skitarii a manlet
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>>576008364
It makes sweeping weakpoints easier for generating capacitance, please don't make fun of me
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>>576003393
The highest figure we’ve ever been given (I don’t remember if it was for the IG or humanity as a whole) was septillions iirc and even that is completely reasonable for a galaxy spanning empire, so yeah it’s kinda silly they keep sticking to just “billions” but I guess at the end of the day it’s just flavor text like a lot of other things and they want people to pick and choose for themselves
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>making custom cheat mods
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Are automatic Boollet guns still way better than auto lazer guns?
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>>576010298
>still
Not as of ~2 years ago.
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>>576010374
So are they equal now or has the pendulum shifted?
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>>576010436
They have about the same base dps but smaller magazine and like half the ammo reserve and worse finesse scaling as las weapons
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>>576004213
Nice opinion. Got any substance?
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>>576004213
>t. doesn't play ogryn
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>flank a reaper
>it guns me down anyway despite its gun pointing away from me
>mutie runs past me
>still grabs me and smashes me into the ground
>sniper behind me aims at my feet, barely showing the laser before instantly shooting me
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is ranged ogryn good? what build people use?
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>>576012789
Achlys twin stubber with burn point blank barrage in aurics but the rumbler in havocs
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>>575983631
>Cock chaingun GO!!
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>>575983631
Does admech have anything similar to this?
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>>576016048
Nope. You could convert one to be an imperial knight on treads, but that would be a massive endeavor due to all of the skulls, trim, and marks of khorne on it
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>>576012789
Yes. Grenadier gauntlet is the most fun imo and works well in both aurics and havoc.

I've been running something like this. The gg has insane mobility for being an ogryn weapon so keep it equipped 90% of the time. This build also has stupid amounts of toughness regen and dmg reduction so you can take a lot of hits even from reapers as long as you keep aiming with the gun
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a2177633-7262-41d2-8ea2-266673341c74/h40-anti-everything-grenadier-gauntlet
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>>575913106
have they reverted the spearhead magazine nerf yet
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Do you think they'll ever add Exterminators for Zealot?
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>>575992163
>But if you're talking about individually? No again. SoB do not "measure up" nor are they "on par". Marines are stronger, faster, taller, and their physiology is augmented at the DNA level.
He is again mistaking the strength of 1 individual for the strength of an entire group.
You say you've "played" 40k for 20 years and yet you're still somehow fucking retarded and wrong about the setting.
It's actually impressive.
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>>576022736
No.
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>>576022851
Every single thing he said is factually correct and the other paragraph is literally about the factions not the individuals so he did cover that. You are genuinely stupid and blind.
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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>>576022986
God I fucking hate Sw*den so much
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>>576023083
No he is still retarded and wrong. This whole thing spawned off the fact that I said that Sisters arriving on Atoma will have the same result as Marines arriving on Atoma. The entire world be cleansed and there won't be a Tertium left to even rebuild after they are done.
Which is a fact.
And then every nerd crawls out of the woodwork snorting and chortling going "ackchually" like it fucking matters or is even relevant to the point I was making at all.

Again, for a guy who has "played" 40k for 20 years and read all the books, he is incredibly fucking retarded and wrong about the setting.
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Which mark for combat axe?
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>>576025967
ruffalo
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>>576025967
It's always rashad + bromentum, literally nothing else exists
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I still can't get over that 1h axe is just pretty good now. And not just a useful tool for Slayer.
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>>576025285
Literally zero of the things he said are incorrect. 100% of the words in his post are factually correct regarding the setting. You keep insisting what he said is "wrong" and "stupid" but it's literally not, I know what he said is correct. Your claims regarding what he said are just false. Everything he said is true.

Secondly, he responded directly to the things contained in the post he responded to. He responded to this post >>575984416. His response is on that topic. You made the claim that sob are on par with marines, he explained that that is neither true if you're talking about the factions as a whole nor if you're talking about them individually. Marines are stronger than sob individually, and the faction sob are stronger than the faction marines as a whole. So saying they are on par is incorrect no matter if you were talking individually or factionally. You're wrong either way. They're not equal either way.

Third, multiple people have now told you're mistaken regarding the claim you made. Myself, and the person who kindly took the time to explain it in detail to you. Your response has been to say "no you're all stupid I'm right" two times now. You're wrong, multiple people have told you, and now multiple people have kindly explained the lore that lets them know you're wrong. While you have just insisted everyone is stupid multiple times. Get a grip dude.

And for the record, you've said another wrong thing. sob can come to Atoma and claim a relic or find a tomb or whatever they're here to do without exterminating the planet. I don't know where you got this idea from and you keep repeating it, but it's not true that every planet sob show up on gets destroyed. They are fanatics but the level of fanaticism varies depending on which Order is in question, and they're not going to Exterminatus Atoma if the Inquisition or other authority countermands it. sob operate on planets without destroying them constantly, defense is even one of their main jobs.
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Of course Marines are stronger than Sisters, Marines are S4 and Sisters are S3. Duh
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>>575924693
For it to be a laser beam, the projectile must be moving at the speed of light.
As those are clearly moving significantly lower than the speed of light(else it would appear as a solid beam across the entire screen), those cannot be lasers.
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still on vacation for another month award
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>>576011410
Heavy stubber is pretty bad since they buffed healthpools in H40

You lost almost all 1SBS and 1SHS breakpoints on nearly every special and elite with the standard Achlys with Surgical + Opening Salvo setup.

Best one now is Krourk with Opening Salvo + Pinning Fire. But it's sort of a waste to not just run Grenade Gauntlet, which has faster swap speed and a really high innate mobility stat for some reason. On top of faster ttks into specials and elites as well as good stagger that can stop crusher overheads and open bulwarks.
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>>576030614
Light speed in 40k is just slower.
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>>576030320
You wrote 1993 letters, 349 words, and you're still retarded and wrong.
Brevity is the soul of wit, retard.
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>>576033530
>Brevity is the soul of wit,
reddit
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>>576030320
you bodied that freak so of course he can't say shit and dips. thank you for explaining the lore even if some retards don't appreciate it. I love learning more since I only played darktide and skimmed a few wikis
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>>576033361
But other weapons, such as lascannons, continue to be depicted firing light speed beams.
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>>575976565
>Black Templars
'member when Matt Ward wrote that despite them not adhering to the Codex they nonetheless kept themselves at 1000 strong because them having more would make the Ultramarines look bad?
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>>576036646
Matt Ward was only good for vermintide. His additions to 40k has been a disaster, especially Trazyn
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This shit is IMPOSSIBLE. Would be easy with bots i guess but lmao you can't play solo ;^)
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>>576032218
>really high innate mobility stat for some reason
I'm guessing that's because the GG was intended to double as a melee weapon(lol, lmao even).
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>>576039132
you are allowed to start a private penance lobby and just tell people that you're going for this penance
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>>576039132
My friend actually got it the other day without even trying, and without even having stun grenades. We were doing our usual havoc 40s and he was just flaming the horde that I hit the skitarius shock ability.
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>>576039132
Auric maelstrom, throw your stuns, then whip out your flamer.
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>>576035804
remarkably consistent :-)
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>YOUR DEATH WILL BE SWEET, BUT NOT, FOR YOU
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>>576039132
Play mortis trial solo malice, be lucky get grenade genration every 20sec. Easy.
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Best weapons for a crit build on zealot?
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>>576041682
relic blade mk2
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>Poxbreaker enters the lobby
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>>576040619
MUTASFA
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>>576041682
Duelling sword
Combat knife
Combat axe
Relic blade
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>>576041682
Eviscerator
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>>576041682
tac ax
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empowered psyonics surge staff psyker and martyrdom stealth thammer zealot declined my pbb ogryn
I feel offended
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I have most of the enemies and some of the textures look like lumps of soap, what did you do with the game fucking swedish cretins
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>>576045363
don't use a shitter build then
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>>576042613
Its a good enough keystone/build that anything can work with it, but you get huge benefits with the tactical axe, since it gets both finesse and crit boost as stats which when maxed skyrockets your damage on crits.
Combat Blade is also really good due to its blessings that synergize with crits.
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>>576045887
oops meant to reply to >>576041682
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>>576042613
>>576043034
>>576045887
The axes are pretty questionable in my experience because they deal with armor rather poorly.
>just use FotF
No thank you, I don't like griefing.
>um ackchewally you're doing it w-
The question was best weapons. My relic blade is raping every enemy and then also (You) and your retarded attempt to suggest a non-viable weapon with a fraction of the RB's DPS. Oh and it can one-shot bosses.
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>>576045887
tac axe also doesn't really benefit from the attack speed from martyrdom or IJ since it's already bitchin fast
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>>576045606
I need a shitter build to carry shitters in this rank
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>>576046248
The rashad combat axes does just fine against carapace and it has access to shred for better crit synergy
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Crusher on Arbites is boring, too slow
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>>576046258
The tac axes also need crit or else they do nothing against carapace
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>>576046457
"Just fine" isn't good enough to qualify among the best weapons, anon. It is a good weapon overall, but it doesn't stand out in any way other than being massively overrated and over-shilled in this general for some abhorrent reason. Maybe it's just morons stuck in 2024 or something.
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>>576046572
It's the single highest melee damaging weapon option for zealots minus certain monster deleting that you get with the eviscerator special and relic blade back stabs
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>>576046745
I'm fairly certain that the reason nobody uses it in h40 is because it is, in fact, not great. Not because they don't know and/or never tried it.
It is so not-amazing that I don't even see scum use it, and scum uses it the best thanks to retarded amounts of rending while also having good crit.
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>>576046889
Scum have the shivs and need faster attacks, you fucking retard
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I only use the tactical axe on veteran because it can actually make the weapon be useful into carapace.
Tactical axe simple cannot compete with relic blade on zealot.
Using it on psyker and arbites is genuinely retarded because both have far better class-specific weapons.
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>>576047038
Irrelevant to the argument, scum remains tac axe's best user. It's not great on zealot, I have no idea why you would suggest something that retarded.
Maybe dip your toes in difficulties that aren't malice, if you want to pretend to know what you're talking about.
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>>576047114
>tac axe
Wrong axe, but still true for it and combat axe both.
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>>576046889
nta but when people ask questions like "best weapons for crit build" then I assume they're somewhat new to the game, meaning h40 is irrelevant
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>>576047114
I'm suggesting it because i have hundreds upon hundreds of hours of experience with it and i'm better than you
>tarding on about scum again
Different class, mongoloid. You wouldn't need to shift the argument if you could win it
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>>576047385
Here comes the larping faggot making the most retarded statements imaginable that literally anyone who has even been in the vicinity of havoc will know to be easily verifiably false. Just kill yourself already you fucking sub-human.
>>576047350
That is fair, but I also wouldn't recommend the combat axe to a new player, as it's kinda slow, awkward, boring, and the swing pattern is annoying for Headtaker. RB and eviscerator are more noob friendly. Hell, I'd recommend the chain axe before I'd recommend the combat axe because it's good enough and also fun.
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>>576047510
>Headtaker
Brutal Momentum, rather. I keep getting them mixed up. The blessings in this game have such fucking retarded names, I hate Sweden.
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>>576047510
>>576047615
>>576047223
>retarded shitter tranny doesn't know the blessing or weapon names but is still arrogant enough to think he knows better than players with several thousands of hours of experience who are significantly more skilled and intelligent
I wonder which youtuber fed you all of your retarded opinions
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>>576047846
Post video proof of the axe being the zealot's best weapon or forever keep your retarded mouth shut, nigger.
It will never happen because it isn't.
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Rippertard at it again I see.
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>>576047930
>doesn't know blessing names
>doesn't know weapon names
>keeps talking about the scum because he has no actual experience with the rashad on zealot like every single oldfag darktide player does
>still think he can speak with authority
Blow it out your front-hole, tranny. When every good player knows something is true then the burden of truth falls on bitchtits having shitter bitches like you who try to contradict them
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>>576048501
Not reading your tantrum until I see proof, faggot
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i like playing shock maul + double barrel Weapon Specialist vet on auric maelstroms and winning :) yay! yippee!
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Anons are spiking their own cortisol for no reason again I see
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>>576048791
double barrel is fun until you shoot carapace or a vanguard
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>>576048570
You're demanding that i make up for the hundreds of hours of experience as a rashad zealot that you failed to get

No. It is not anyone's job to spoonfeed every single retarded uppity shitter who starts condradicting the skilled oldfags in this general
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>>576048989
And yet nobody uses the axes in h40. Curious.
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>spend 2 hours in party finder getting rejected
>okay I'll host
>only retards apply
>okay, I will take retards
>game is lost in 2 minutes because retards can't push when I help a downed psyker
>everyone leaves
>guess I'll go spend another hour getting declined
nice game
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>>576048910
100% crit chance because I killed two enemies (67% on next shot + passive crit) means you can just sneeze on anything that's not a crusher and stagger or kill it. Otherwise Krak for the bigguns that you get back every two seconds from killing 10,000 elites all the time. Great fun, got my ASS using it
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>>576049867
two killed enemies mean you spend 2 shells instead of 1
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>>576049092
Because they value the quaities of other weapons more. Simple answer but still far too complex for a retard like you, apparently

There's a reason why i recommended the knife and relic blade too, but you're still trooning the fuck out
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>>576048501
Not him, but rashad isn't the best zealot weapon for the sole reason that relic blade exists.
Rashad isn't bad, it's decent even, but if you are given a choice between taking the relic blade or rashad, just take the relic blade.
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>>576050006
>has a massive spergout
>lists an at best B-tier weapon as "best"
>can't prove it
>nobody uses it in havoc
>keeps sperging out over it
lol
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>>576030614
>>576033361
>>576035804
Laser beams in fiction are rarely ever shown to be light speed in general
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how get better at doge in darktide
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>>576049092
Thats because zealot is relegated to aurabotting with some hordeclearing in hv40. Holy shit like why the fuck is your argument on whether or not axe is good on zealot only using this one specific situation that wasn't related to the original question? Might as well say relic blade is dogshit because nobody uses it in uprising.
Its because of pretentious retards like you that havoc is known as the tranny mode.
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>>576050464
That's a lot of words and not a lot of proof.
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Transphobic Power Overload Skitty is overpowered in H40 but we are not ready for that discussion.
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>>576035804
>But other weapons, such as lascannons, continue to be depicted firing light speed beams.
That's because lascannons shoot harder, that's why the beam is faster, you don't see the difference between it and true light speed because it is already too fast for human eye to perceive.
But it's still not true "light speed" like in our world.
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>>576050443
You mean arby?
You pic Voltaic Mandibles and Razorjaw and then take Canine Morale.
And if you want to get good at using it, you need to know how to micro manage the dog by constantly pinging enemies for it to kill.

OR

You could just download a mod that lets you decide what the dog does, like what enemies it prioritizes.
But this is just a cheat basically.
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>>575996712
He’s neglecting to mention the imperial palace is easily one of the best defensive positions to be in in the entire galaxy since it’s pretty much unbreakable until plot demands it. We also don’t know how many sisters were present and I think the Marines were only like 4 chapters and not “12”.
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>>576050778
>a 15% multiplied that multiplies even power/strength increases because its applied directly to an enemy is strong
I had suspected it but my addiction to flensing has stopped me actually trying it
>trans sonic
is this supposed to mean the kitty claws or the blades
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what are the best boons/perks for the exterminator shotgun and the riot shield/maul?
been using the bonus damage against electrified enemies on both and it seems bretty gud
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>>576051251
Blades.
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>>576030320
>>575992163
Thanks guys, always nice to have lore discussions.
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>>576051537
>riot shield/maul?
Unyielding, Carapace, High Voltage, Opportunist.
>been using the bonus damage against electrified enemies on both and it seems bretty gud
It is because every hit applies electrified, so it's essentially a permanent 25% damage
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>>576051537
>shotgun perks
Flak pretty much always. If you're using it with the shield, put unyielding on it and use your shotgun to dome bulwarks, the shield doesn't have great unyielding damage so it's not worth focusing on unless you're stingy with ammo in havoc for some reason. Just spam your special shells and eat small ammo pickups and it's usually fine though.
>shotgun blessings
Full bore on all of them always. The accurate one trivially gets it on every shot. The spread one wants strength for more cleave for more aoe, and triggering it is trivial too. Plus it helps kill bosses.
Scattershot on the aoe mark because that is its best blessing as it crits very fucking hard. The accurate one has no good second blessing, so you take the next best one in Sustained Fire.
Deathspitter has pretty limited utility because you need to build stacks. Doesn't at all help against bosses, or when you're rounding the corner to face a clown car of elites. Also 3.5s plain isn't enough to keep stacked with a gun that spends half of its time reloading, even with reload speed stacking in your build.
>shield perks
Carapace always. Flak is the most common armor type so that goes on too. Unyielding is viable to use instead of flak, but I wouldn't recommend it in auric, just shoot the suckers.
>shield
High Voltage and Opportunist, always.
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>>576050778
what's so special about power overboard
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>>576052164
I assume he means crit stacking and stunlocking enemies with both Electro-Strike Conduit using the blades, and Critical Power Overload also zapping and damage amping everything.
I don't see any reason that this should be OP or anything, and it'll probably struggle to justify noosying after that gets fixed, unlike Flensing.
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>>576052092
>>576051894
grazie, i've been using the wide spread one, tried the more accurate mark but it didnt feel as good
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>>576052512
>tried the more accurate mark but it didnt feel as good
Treat it like a bolt pistol that also debuffs bosses for a bit more damage. It's a very good, accurate special sniping gun and a solid side-grade in havoc.
In auric, the wide spread one is just so vastly superior to most guns in general because it deletes entire hallways and you have infinite ammo because you're not in havoc. Just make sure you use it with Forceful's cleave node. The push cleave is melee only and does not work with it.
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>>576049937
kill 2 enemies is with melee. that's how wep. specialist works
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>>576052164
Power Overload triggers on X kills, so its utility scales with enemy density which is at its highest on Havoc. Assuming you stay in the thick of things and in coherency, it's very strong because odds are you're just about ready to pop at 30 stacks before the duration of 8 seconds even ticks down, so you've just about got 100% uptime on the buffs as well as a frequent shock bursts from critical overload.
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so this is good build?????
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How much easier would darktide become if you could shoot while downed?
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Is there a mode to immediatly know when I'm grouped with console players?
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>>576053053
I'd take Entropic Transfer over either of the 2 nodes above it, or try to take Galvanic Marking Array (elite kill damage bottom right) somehow, but that doesn't look too bad.
Drop the VE toughness refill.
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>>576053053
You've taken power overflow but avoided most of your best toughness generation nodes
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>>576053120
how much easier? depends if its like a CoD style where you get given the starter pistol or if you get to keep your packapunched weapons
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>>576053203
I know one exists because I have a friend who uses it but I don't know the name.
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>>576053203
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/127
>Features:
>Display platform icons.
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>>576053120
Being able to use nooskull while downed proves how strong it would be
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>>576052803
>Just make sure you use it with Forceful's cleave node
i'll give it a try, thanks for the advice anon
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>>576053024
>>576050778
rate and correct, pls
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>>576053348
ty senpai, I'm tired of ((((them)))
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>>576053240
>>576053275
so like this?
i have support player mentality so its hard to not take power overflow but maybe the tards will be fine without it
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>>576053915
Pretty sure the 30% DR at the bottom will save your life more often than the zap when something hits you, but that does look good.
Not a fan of the TDR on the left, I'd rather run Ablative Wards and a health curio or three.
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The amount of fucking niggers with Havoc titles and frame who play like absolute retards who couldn't even push back a poxburster is astonishing. You'd think goign this far would have teach them a thing or two but no it's like babysitting drunk babies with the reaction time of a sleeping snail on the EU server at least
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>>576050019
Didn't say it was the best
>>576050084
Illiterate mongoloid
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>>576054162
Literally nothing about havoc cosmetics has any meaning whatsoever, except True Survivor.
>inb4 le True Survivor also doesn't mean anything
It doesn't mean much at all, but it still means more than the others, because every other cosmetic is trivial to carry someone through via corpse dragging. Carrying someone to True Survivor requires effort and dedication from everyone involved, even if it's a retard being held by both hands and led through the map by 3 much better players. Comparatively, Havoc-Forged leech can literally go AFK and stay dead all run.
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For the next 3 missions, you'll check your quickplay teammates gear. Post results.
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>>576054330
sorry, my dog ate my homework
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>>576054307
>Didn't say it was the best
And a happy "illiterate mongoloid" to you, too >>576041682
>Best weapons for a crit build on zealot?
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>>576053532
Sacrificed invigorating overload, medicae skull and volataic arcs in exchange for galvanised coating, sureshot cogitator sink and reactor coil recharge. The sonic swords go well with the latter two because you want to be headshotting things for rapid capacitance to blow voltaic as often as possible. Galvanised coating is there for survivability, but also because stun immunity comes in very handy.

>>576053915
Artificer skull goes well with progressive plating matrix because it'll keep you at max stats with no action on your part. So it's a free 15% T damage resistance.
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>>576054768
arigato namaste. I'll try this.
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>>576054463
>weapons
>plural
You're too retarded to be arguing with me
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>>576055130
I guess he didn't specify any qualifiers, such as
>Best weapons when you're retarded as fuck
They should give zealot the rippergun.
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>>576054162
Here's the redpill:
People who think that earning all those cosmetics is hard enough to make it important to wear them to show off that you did the thing are bad because they struggled to get them and never improved beyond that struggle.
Everyone who's better than that intuitively understands the above correlation and stops caring about all that bling, or begins to actively avoid it and moves on to chase achievements that aren't even predefined by the penance system.
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>weekly hard stratagem
>level 6 bulwark without teamperk
>level 11 heavy without teamperk
These coop games are getting increasingly infested with people looking to be carried through everything
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>>576054413
Last time it was your mom who ate your homework, Timmy...
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>>576055509
They don't call him son of a bitch for nothing.
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>>576055509
yeah but she's in jail now for meth
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>>576055565
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo BODIED THAT FREAK!
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>>576054768
>progressive plating matrix
i was honestly under the impression this activated on being hit and was therefore a dead node, fucking swedish wording strikes yet again
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>>576054330
I would do this except I rarely even go into quickplay these days.
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>>576055565
GODDAMIT CHAD GO TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE!
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>>576055704
Yeah that was my first thought too, but apparently not, it procs on any hit you make, melee or ranged, including hits made by the skull probe. With artificer, the skull's fire rate is fast enough that it will build a stack before the stack runs out, so it's great for passively maintaining that node. The description is counterintuitive because the name of the node makes it sound like your armor is reactive in some way.

SWEDEEEEEEEEN
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>>576052905
each kill loads a shell
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I want a twin linked recon las for maximum brrrt
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>>576054162
their number quadrupled because skitarii toilet attracted shitters who earned their titles during havoc 1.0 (currently known as heresy)
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I'm honestly not that keen on Darktide talent trees.
Wish they did it like vt2 desu
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>>576056136
yes. i know that. i'm referring to the 33% crit chance for your next shot that you get per stack, at 100% crit chance for 3 kills.
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>>576056445
Multi-Laser for Ogryn soon
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>>576056756
Without shocktrooper? Are you mad?
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>>576056445
what's that? another maul? I got you senpai
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>>576056136
That's not how always prepared works.
3.3% from one stack, and 33% from ten stacks both round up to one shell, or 50% of the double barrel's magazine.
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>>576056850
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my pbb ogryn gets declined by every single host but then when I join as a vet there's always a retarded psyker who deals less damage than my shout fucking vet with smokes
every single time
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>>576057308
the anti pbb lobby is powerful and their propaganda is highly effective
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>>576057308
works for two mins then you're out of ammo
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Friendly reminder every utterance of Cawl's is essentially a death flag
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>>576058218
>he doesn't know
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>>576058279
>muh half of ammo back
>on a 20 max ammo machine
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>>576058218
Rumbler PBB is pretty good, but I've been baited before where one will apply with the rumbler on, then switch out for something else right before the countdown ends.
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>>576057308
Are you really surprised? That build is an absolutely horrendous auditory, visual, and gameplay experience for literally everyone else in the team.
I would unironically rather play with the worst psyker than the best rumbler ogryn.
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>>576058367
pbb ogryn takes less ammo pickups than taunt ogryn
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>>576056850
Imagine the next weapon added is a maul

Not a shock maul or a power maul, just a fuckin maul, a mere stick of metal
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Yep, im ready for havoc
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>>576058874
>checking filename hour
yep, a slavgroid
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>>576059010
merci chef, feared you'd say it was french
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>>576058874
Needs caramelldansen running on a loop with strobing RGB color filters
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>>576058551
>you getting over-stimulated by a rumbler ogryn
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>>576058367
Rumbler builds also use BLO which helps negating the ammo consumption a bit.
Also if you're playing roooombler ogryn in havoc 40, having a vet as your ammo bitch is necessary.
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>>576058859
Yay, ogryn can finally gets a new weapon! :D
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>>576059774
Why do the glowing lights mesmerize the retard so?
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>>576055565
Damn son, the 14th amendment made it illegal to own niggas like that.
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>>576058218
>>576058367
While PBB is active and using rumbler you can end up with more ammo after it ends than you had when you activated it if you know how to manage your procs properly.
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>>576059774
Cope and seethe if you like. The declines speak for themselves.
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>>576060951
While this is technically possible, it is also extremely impractical because you end up wasting a lot of dps. You do this sometimes, but not all the time.
The actual answer to retards screeching "muh ammo" is that all the ammo pickups go to the ogryn, and the ogryn only fires while in PBB, and only when there's enough enemy density.
You bring a vet, not as ammo bitch for the ogryn, but as ammo bitch for everyone else because they aren't getting ammo pickups. Only the arbitrator may ask politely for a small pickup to fuel his shotgun (but why are you bringing an arbitrator?)
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>>576060951
>just get super duper lucky
ah I see the rumblertards share a single neuron custody with gachatards
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>>576061108
I only host
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>>576061209
Sure I'm just saying it's one of the most ammo efficient builds in the game as far as ranged combat is concerned. Only crit las vet is better
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>>576061335
Ehh, seems a little disingenuous with how counter-intuitively you have to play to pull it off, even if it's technically correct. It's not even really ranged combat either.
Oh and don't forget psyker of course. I was surprised the other day by how good shock staff can be in h40 if the psyker pretends to be a vet, but also shrieks into hordes.
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>>576061309
anon..
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>>576061309
>shitters don't know about the power of rumbler PBB ogryns
Holy shit you're retarded
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>>576054162
It's because they got carried. All titles are meaningless and don't illustrate player skill, not even True Survivor. A complete dumbass can get it by being carried in a premade with voice chat, you turtle through the map with bubble, chorus, VoC spam, and you put the retard to play ogryn or arby. The hardest classes to die on. And you constantly voice command them through the mission.

I have my TS title but I'm only using it to get accepted into havoc lobbies easier, because fuck waiting 30+ minutes in the party finder getting declined for no reason.
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Every class should have unlimited ammo for every weapon, but counter it by constantly spawning poxwalkers even outside of waves. Ammo pickups briefly increase ranged weapon damage and drop from ranged elites.
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how do I get better at dodge
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>>576061497
I dunno it's working well for me so far. It's rare that I pick up more ammo than someone else
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>>576061209
I often end up spending only 2 rounds for the entire duration of PBB when I never stop spamming rumbler.
I have to tell my teammates to take ammo via voicechat because they don't understand how little ammo I use
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>>576061976
Aurics isn't the best place for the rumbler. I average more damage than this as a melee ogryn. It's in havocs where the enemy density makes the rumbler shine
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>>576061974
don't spam it
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>>576061974
spam it but then hold up your block when you need it to recharge
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>>576061976
Lol'd @ flamer zealot
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>>576061976
>ugly useless bloated German stoner faggot scoreboard
Please use the community patch, you can disable the bloat there.
>but it's 6 gorillion lines
Yes that's why you disable the bloat. You can handle spending 2 minutes changing settings, I believe in you.
I wouldn't count auric scoreboards for havoc performance either.

>>576062083
Holding down the trigger and only using 2 pieces of ammo is an extraordinarily wild claim that I will not believe without proof, because I've extensively fucked around with PBB BLO and rumbler. I have to assume you're getting ammo from somewhere without noticing, like vet aura or scum aura. Or you aren't holding down the trigger.
It's very ammo efficient, but not THAT ammo efficient. You do have to jump through hoops and abuse Back Off! to get that level of efficiency.

Also if you have to tell your teammates to pick up ammo, you aren't spamming enough.
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>>576062183
That's a level 27 havoc mission, here's a level 28
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>>576061974
see enemy attack, dodge
hear enemy attack, dodge
see and hear nothing, dodge because it's probably behind you and attacking.
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>>576062424
>27, 28
The ammo penalties in 40 are brutal, dear newfriend, and the trenchies are likely wasting ammo and picking up more than they need. It's not really indicative of anything other than trench players being retarded.
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>>576062420
I barely use rumbler without PBB which is why I don't need to pickup ammo often, yes.
Granted, I also most likely get ammo from vet aura.
But PBB + lucky bullet is that good. I don't even have back off allocated.
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>>576062569
Well I can't press a button and make my havoc level 40, so it's not as easy to test there. 29 (pic rel) is the highest I've gotten since it's getting increasingly difficult to get invited. In none of these was ammo ever a concern for me is all I'm saying. I mostly just pick stuff up that the randoms dont see cause they never look for it or bother going back to pick things I ping up.

>>576062420
>Please use the community patch, you can disable the bloat there.
I was messing with it for a bit but ended up just getting constant error messages. So I reverted to the old one
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>>576061976
>>576062424
>>576063038
>trench games
>every single one has an arbitrator
fucking lmao does every trench game have a mine spamming retard?
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Does corruption resist help against pox gas?
I have 3x corruption res curios in my vet and I still get fucking choked every time. Might as well dump them if they don't help with toughness damage.
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>>576063387
>red circle resist
Stop standing inside the red circle.
Corruption resist against fart modifiers is a widely perpetuated myth. Corruption resist does nothing against the massive toughness damage that farts inflict. The resist only applies to the amount of corruption you take after your toughness is broken, which should be nothing, because you should have toughness regen talents, and get the fuck out of the fart cloud.
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>>576063387
It helps against the corruption damage it deals when your toughness is gone, but not the damage it deals to your toughness. Bomber resist does that.
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>>576063387
Lmao
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>>576063565
>Bomber resist does that.
for the tox gas?
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>>576063740
Bomber resistance gives you resistance to damage inflicted by bombers, including their kick and their grenades. Nothing else.
If you're referring to the gas modifier, you are eating shit because you are getting bogged down inside fart areas, instead of either camping before the next trigger, or murderblending your way through the area and to the other end before the gas appears.
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>>576063740
Pox bomber
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>>576063740
Oh, you mean the map modifier tox gas, not the bomber tox gas, I don't think anything helps with the toughness damage that does
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>unpowered power sword does 1/10 damage
>mandatory blessing for powering up to do anything at all
>powering your power sword slows your move speed to nothing because you cant click a button and walk at the same time
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>>576063546
>Stop standing inside the red circle
I do that but also I would like to have at least some toughness when I break out if fart chamber
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>>576063214
>>trench games
>>every single one has an arbitrator
That or a skitarii. Honestly every skittle that I come across, even in H40 basically just hug the floor half the time and the other half I don't even notice their contribution to the team.

Obviously good ones exist but my experience they are rare still.
Also I chalk this up to being just skittle being new, so most people haven't figured out how to play the class properly yet/found the winning build combo.
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>>576063967
>That or a skitarii.
I have them on auto decline because it's the shiny new thing that all the retards want to try out without having had the mandatory half year period it takes for the good players to humiliate all the jewtubers into finally spoon feeding the even more retarded dregs what a good build looks like (without knowing how to play it).
Same went for arbitrator when it came out.
Scum was only an exception because the class is too hard for many retards to even get up to auric, which is very funny.
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>>576063927
The original power sword needs a rework big time. No weapon should have a mandatory blessing to even be able to function properly as a weapon.
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>>576063927
The cost of being such a powerful weapon
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>>576063927
>still the most powerful melee in the game

>>576064168
>vet mains genuinely believe it's weak
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>>576063927
They won't do a thing, people asked for it to have a heat system like the relic blade and their response was the power falchion
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>>576063889
Iirc the arbites rebreather talent should help against that since +75% resistance to poxgas damage.
But I'm not sure, so don't quote me on that. I'm too busy and lazy to open up Kuli's guide right now.
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>>576064435
It does, but I'm pretty sure it's literally the only source for damage reduction against that modifier in the game
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>>576064435
It works against all farts, yes, including the map mod.
It's still not worth taking because it's on the class with infinite toughness generation, and you should not be standing inside of it.
No, the opportunity cost is not worth the theoretical scenario you made up in your head where "holding an area full of gas" might be a thing that happens. Just walk out of the cloud.
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*farts in the elevator*
Try just walking out of this
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>>576063883
>>576063859
right, but "Bomber Resist" works on both gas bombers AND fire bombers, yes?
and it works for both toughness and health, yes?
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>>576065032
Correct on all accounts, yes.
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>>576063927
This kinda almost made sense at launch when the powder sword could be swung maybe 10? times before needing to turn it on again.
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*fart* NIGGERS! :D
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>>576065101
thank you sensei
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>>576065349
By the way, if you get conflicting information from some faggot claiming otherwise, and you go and test it in the psykhanium with the creature spawner mod, make sure you quit to the morning star, and even do a re-log, after changing your curio perks. It's very, very buggy and the server is a fucking helicopter parent. If it ever seems like bomber and flamer resist aren't working, it's because your curios didn't update correctly.
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>>576064276
>>vet mains genuinely believe it's weak
It's not weak, but clunky and retardedly designed.

People will hate me for it but when the devs made the power falchion, instead they should've just taken the old power sword and given it the relic blade mechanic while keeping the attack power it still has now.
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>>576065948
>while keeping the attack power it still has now
I hate vet mains so much it's unreal
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Is bonesaw the best sounding melee weapon
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>>576067034
I'm right.
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>>576067347
Is BTL a melee weapon?
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>>576067470
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I wish the arby's shotgun had 6 rounds in the magazine instead of 4. It'd feel nicer to use.
Also for all tube magazine shotguns I think it'd be cool if they buffed them by implementing speed loaders.
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>>576068078
the other duckbill mark has 6 round tubes
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>>576068078
>I think it'd be cool if they buffed them by implementing speed loaders.
I want a fucking TALENT that does this. I don't care how niche it is to have a talent that buffs only shotguns, put it somewhere out of the way if 70 IQ trogs are a concern.

Arbitrator has really fucking horrendously shit auras, just use the reload aura. I also recommend the elite kill reload speed in the bottom left. Makes the shotguns feel much, much better.
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Next class is noble with a servant as a pet that runs around collecting pickups before your team can reach them and reloads your single shot guns for you
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>carnival strike with the ampitheatre at the end
>wait for the roof to open
>hold out until extraction arrives
>clear the area of enemies
can they streamline this dogshit end event already. Wtf is this bullshit that it's still this shitty and long of an end event
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>>576068346
>Arbitrator has really fucking horrendously shit auras, just use the reload aura. I also recommend the elite kill reload speed in the bottom left. Makes the shotguns feel much, much better.
Ye, I've used those on my arby builds where I use shotguns. It works very well, but I think it'd be cooler if they used more speedloaders for more weapons.
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>>576068256
I know and I don't care. I want 6 shells in the sniper shotgun.
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>>576064276
Not even a vet main, but it doesn't feel good to use.
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>>576069312
Yeah, it is clunky as fuck.
Power Cycler is cool blessing, but having it define the entire weapon is cancer. Because without it the entire weapon is just bricked.
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>>575981886
i fucking hate ladders
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Next class will be a healer succubus class
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>>576070016
The era of needing to RNG your way into getting blessings was nightmarish. I remember trying to find a Melk blade with max power cycler. Imagine if Fatshark had taken anything they learned from two Vermintide games and used it when originally making Darktide. It would have launched in such a better state.
Also fuck the cosmetic shop.
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Next class is Mathematics I hope you did your homeworks.
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Good lord this refraction emitter penance is aids. This might be the worst blitz in the game and the penance takes forever.

It feels like they meant to make it "block x ranged attack damage" and someone got confused.
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>>576070476
Mathletbros… we’re in trouble here…
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>>576070685
I got it in 2 expeditions by splitting off from the team and intentionally using all charges into packs of gunners for their full duration.
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I think the power sword should passively build up charge over time that is reduced by the hitmass you put it through and the special action changes its moveset from sweeps to strikes.
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>>576070476
Hey, I finished highschool already, this wasn't part of the deal!
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what do you lot put on your curios? right now I've got +toughness, +health and +gunner resist
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>>576071612
3 CDR, 3 revive speed, 2 gunner resist, 1 bomber resist
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>>576068346
The stagger damage aura is bad? It's basically an extra 10% damage against at minimum anything you have previously hit assuming you are using concussive.
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>>576070476
It's fucking over
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>>576070476
ANON'S MOM ATE THEM!
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Why do people play the open battlefield mission so much? Feels like I get it all the time, and 9/10 of those times my team jobs, splits up and dies.

Is it a filter in the story progression? Or some meta bullshit some youtuber told all the shitters to go do because it's 30 seconds shorter than the next closest mission?
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>>576071726
>at minimum
No. Your melee attacks have somewhere between +55-80% damage most of the time, possibly more from blessings. The damage aura stacks with this number, and thus yields a net damage increase of something closer to 6% compared to if you didn't have it.
Additionally, it has the massive opportunity cost of poor pathing. You MUST take Voltaic Mandibles Augment for the dog to do anything, and pathing Imposing Force costs you nothing because it is fucking excellent. Suppression Force is terrible, and Suppression Protocols isn't actually active when you most need it (being shot at while moving between groups), also hitting 3 enemies can be deceptively difficult in havoc hitmass, though I suspect it at least triggers on pushes so it shouldn't be that difficult to keep up. But compared to Imposing Force? That shit is always on when you want it. Killing elites is literally your job.

If I had the option to save 1 point and take no aura on arbitrator, I think I would do that. Canine Morale is an S-tier skill, but the yellow dog aura is dogSHIT, the damage aura is not worth the pathing, and the reload aura is plain bad if you don't use a shotgun.
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>>576071438
But anon, maths will be useful ALL YOUR LIFE! Life is maths!
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>>576067347
I'd say either the Chainaxe's mix of shredding and meaty thwacks, or the Relic Blade's metal-on-bone tings are the best, personally. Best ranged has to be a fully-charged voidstrike bowling ball getting tossed right through a dozen poxnigger brains.
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>Okay i can handle myself in Auric, let's try Havocs to join the cool kids club
>Mission's going very smooth, this isn't harder than Auric so far
>This happens
The Ogryn didn't clutch btw
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>>576071612
toughness on all three, gunner on two, corruption resistance on two, bomber on one and sniper on one.
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>>576071612
Staminamaxxing because it just makes everything feel so much nicer; it's a massive QoL boost and I can't go without it anymore. Block efficiency and Revive speed as well.
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>>576072591
first havoc levels are actually under auric, if not damnation
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Somebody get these NIGGERS out of here!
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>>576073387
Rannic says this while looking like this
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>>576071612
CDR on builds that use it, which is almost all of them.
Gunner resist, 2-3 of them.
Then it depends.

Almost never 5% toughness. It's alright on 3 health curio psyker though.
Never ever 5% health, that shit is a waste of a perk slot, just take a resist instead.
I run 2-3 flamer resist and sometimes 1 bomber resist on all melee builds, because they have been what most frequently damaged my health.
2-3 bomber resist is acceptable on scum because tox bombers utterly rape your toughness in a way you can't really recover from.
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>>576073801
Anon posts this about the post he's replying to.
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>>576073387
Rannic would never say this with Hallowette and Mazombo around.
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Next class with be a Grey Knight terminator
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>>576076110
And he will still have trouble dealing with a single scab vanguard holding a plank of fucking wood
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>Havoc trench with two Hive Scums
>They keep running off on their own to get downed or dodge off of ledges
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>>576072591
>Didn't install AoE circles mod
Skill issue, rejected.
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>>576077746
>Relying on mods to carry you
Imagine
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>teammate is in below auric difficulty with full black mobian armor and a havoc title
>runs headfirst into hoard and dies first
it's the third time today I've seen this while leveling my Psyker, is there an exploit to get the havoc cosmetics?
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How does relic blade gain heat? Is it just by using the heat mode or by hitting enemies?
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>>576078283
Post unmodded havoc 40
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>>576078912
the only "difficult" one to get is the one that requires you to beat ONE level 25 mission. The rest of the cosmetics can be acquired from joining somebody elses havoc 1 lobby 50 times. As for titles there's one title you get from just playing a certain number of havoc runs which again you can get just by joining low level lobbies.
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Why do some chained hit bonuses reset after missing a hit and some don't?
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>>576079498
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>>575913952
>>575913304
bro's seeing the other player's view on his own screen bringing back couch coop over here
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>>576078912
>>576079485
Literally just happened again. Vet was first to die and immediately left the game
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>get to havoc clearance 33 with wife and ransoms through in-game party finder
>EU lobbies so the amount of retards is high
>get accepted into H40 lobby with a true survivor, my wife and a random 27 clearance martyrdom zealot
>Carnival run goes incredibly smooth until the last 10 minutes of the map where a bugged dh ritual wipes the run. The last cultists were spawned in the roof or something
>2nd attempt my game crashes during a triple boss fight
>3rd attempt my game crashes as we complete the mission and enter the evac elevator, causing the entire lobby to spazz out and count as a loss for everyone
>True Survivor player understandably loses his patience and leaves

I hate Sweden so much it's unreal
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>>576081234
>and ransoms
You kidnapped people to play Havoc with you?
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>>576081234
>ransoms
randoms
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>>576041802
Why mk2?
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I'm leveling hive scum right now. Stimm Supply doesn't seem that useful does it? I've seen it being used by others often but it's just this short circle that you have to stand in.
So do I go Rampage or Desperado?
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>>576082136
Stim supply ain't bad but you're essentially playing a support build, making other players shine instead of padding your own numbers. I'd say it's only worthwhile in havoc if you're playing with a premade

Rampage for melee, desperado for shooty
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>>576082136
Rampage and Desperado are the same ability but for ranged vs melee, just choose whichever you'd prefer to play with
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>>576082136
I love desperado scum, root n tooty point and shooty.
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holy shit stimm supply hive scum is borderline useless
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>>576083752
Worst of all, it's just not that fun
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>bad situation
>use chorus
>doesn't activate
>press again
>doesn't activate
>we all die
Why?
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>>576083752
its good in havoc for handling certain modifiers but thats about it
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>>576084795
>why
because swedes
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/336
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>>576079282
I've played Havco exactly once. So no.
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>>576084795
idk because your getting staggered or your input got ate or something idk
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>>576081351
I'd do the same, not gonna lie.
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>>576086068
>spam click chorus
>1 charge and it cancels
It's a completely useless ability if you can't activate it when you need it the most
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>>576081234
>a random 27 clearance martyrdom zealot
Oh no no no no no
I honestly have to assume that anyone who accepts low levels is either trolling or high and misclicked. It's a massive red flag. Be wary if someone accepts you. You're probably better off accepting True Survivors and other h40 players into your 33 because that's past the level where they'd join with a meme build and troll you. It's actually hard and not easily solo carried because EFL2 kicks you in the nuts.
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>>576082432
>Stim supply ain't bad
It is bad, it's genuine dogshit.
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What do you do when relic blace is on cooldown?
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>>576072591
>The Ogryn didn't clutch btw
Not at all surprising. Ogryn is the shittiest class to try clutching on.
You'd think that ogryn, the 3 meter tall unga bunga retard that hits like a freight train in the lore would have an easy time trying to clutch, but no.
Paradoxically due to how ogryn is designed he is only strong and at his strongest when he has his team around him.
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>>576089191
only because you will inevitably pay the trapper tax while trying to make it to the team. A good ogryn is still a decent clutch machine unless there's a burgle in between you and the team. At least in my experience burgle is the one monster i struggle to even do decent damage to. If i played rumblergryn more i'm sure i'd have an easier time but melee ogryn just can't cope
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>>576079113
Heat increases by just using the heat mode. You can lessen the heat build up by hitting enemies depending on what blessing you are using, like Heatsink.
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Need me some gnosh
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>>576089449
Speaking of "burgles" how the fuck does their swallow attack work? Sometimes they just insta eat you when i melee range and the animation seems so fast, i don't know when to back off
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>>576082136
Stimm Supply is significantly better in Havoc because it makes the team immune to corruption if your stimms are on a low cooldown. You can use Booby Trap to turn the supply into a mini chem bomb, which gets a lot more power in HISTG and Havocs because of the enemy density.
>>576089945
If the Burgle pukes on you, it will try to eat you. Getting distance from it is the only option.
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>>576089945
If you have the slime on you it can eat you in a second. Just don't melee it.
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>>576089140
hit things with the relic blade.
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>>576090103
>If the Burgle pukes on you, it will try to eat you. Getting distance from it is the only option.
Oooooooh, good to know. God i wish this game had a bestiary or something, the amount of hidden mechanics is insane
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>>576089945
if you have been puked on they'll just insta eat you if you're anywhere near them, even behind them. They just turn to fast to try and keep engaging in melee when they've puked on you. You *can* dodge the puke somewhat and get a hit or two in but the hitbox is so inconsistent that it becomes an extremely delicate dance.
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Shieet
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>>576081351
How else are you supposed to get a game these days
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>>576089449
>A good ogryn is still a decent clutch machine
No. That's more of just a good PLAYER is a good clutch machine.
The same player who manages to clutch on ogryn is going to have a 100x easier time clutching on any other class just by virtue they aren't being handicapped due to playing ogryn.

Ogryn is objectively worst damn class to clutch on. You do fuck all damage innately, most your guns suck and the few special snipers are off meta and not worth bringing, and you have fuck all mobility. And only ability that'd give you movement to put distance between you and enemies is off meta and kind of mid compared to Taunt. Since Taunt has the property of preventing most shit shows from happening because you take aggro away from the team and protect them with it.
And then don't forget that ogryn is much more massive, meaning you literally cannot use most of the common clutch routes for the simple reason that your giant fat ass doesn't fit through certain windows.l.
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heh
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Darktide looks so much more complex than Helldivers. The only problem I have with it is that you can't buy new classes and cosmetics with in-game currency. I hate it when you buy a game and realize you'll have to shell out more money to unlock all the content.
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Is it possible to cheat with minigames? I just have some dude solve the pick4 in 2 seconds 3 times in a row
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>>576093187
Yeah, there's a mod that does that for you. It's all within the rules by the way. Personally I use a mod that highlights special enemies and range enemies because you can't see them at all.
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>>576093398
>It's all within the rules by the way
Makes me not want to play the game
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>>576093493
I have very mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, yes, it's literally cheating, on the other hand, I use highlighting myself. When does accessibility end and cheating begin?
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>>576093398
>I use a mod that highlights special enemies and range enemies
Literal baby tier cheat, crazy that people like you probably also brag about finishing high difficulty content
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>>576093398
bro what I share a general with cheaters
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>>576093779
>>576093820
It's a choice between this and simply not playing the game because my eyes hurt. In the same way increasing the game's brightness and further boosting it through the GPU's built-in software can also be considered cheating.
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>>576093682
Why not play the game as it was intended?
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The game cheats me by not playing sounds alerting me of specials or backstabs.
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>>576093971
Every ranged enemy has giant glowing eyes and particles when shooting, you are just brain damaged
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>>576093820
Asia should be isolated from the internet
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>>576094191
What, you couldn't hear the two trappers behind the conga lines of bursters? Sounds like a skill issue
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Is this the Helldivers general?
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Why is Vermintide 2 so blurry? How do I make it sharper?
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>>576094181
Like I said, the game is very dark, and it really strains my eyes. I'd be happy not to use it, but playing even a single mission without it is really uncomfortable.
>>576094293
Spotting tiny glowing dots on a dark screen is literally a strain on the eyes. I've never had this kind of problem with Vermintide or any other game because they're much more visible and the enemies are generally easier to spot. In Darktide you've got guys in black armor standing in the middle of a dark street in the middle of the night with just a faint glow in their eyes.
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>>576094748
not this is the slophammer general
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>>576094748
Helldivers is a coop game?
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>>576087065
I have absolutely ruined a few runs doing this. I fucking hate Sweden and eating inputs
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/coopg/ help me enjoy psyker more.
My other three most played classes (as in, the only ones I've levelled up to 30) are: Arbites, Zealot and Skitarii, so as you can see I'm certifiably braindead. What's a build that lets me warm up to it?
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hdg bros I can't believe our general fucking died
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>>576092326
I don't have a problem with paying real money for new content in a game I play so much
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Is Helldivers general gone then?
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>>576095430
And thats a good thing.
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>>576095554
what? AGAIN???? BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
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>>576095430
good
barely anyone played the game anyways
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>>575978965
This aged well.
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/hdg/ LOST THIS WAR MONTHS AGO. YOUR PEOPLE ARE BUCK BROKEN. BOOTY BLASTED. DEFEATED, BY ME. I WISH I COULD TELL YOU IT WAS DIFFICULT, BUT IT WASNT.

WE ARE ONE STEP AHEAD, ALWAYS! THE DSS IS ALREADY UNDER OUR CONTROL, AND SOON, THE WORMHOLE AS WELL! THE ILLUMINATE AND THE BANISHED SHARE THE SAME GOAL. WE FIGHT TOGETHER HONOR THE WILL OF JOEL!

BUT, WITHOUT A CHALLENGE, WITHOUT LEANDIVER BUSSY, I GROW...WEARY...LOST...ALONE...
AHH...BUT, HERE YOU NOW STAND!

SET A FIRE IN YOUR HEART, LEANDIVER! BARE YOUR FANGS! FIGHT HARD! DIE WELL!
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>>576095326
For a basic warm-up,
Greatsword for fun and effective melee
Electrokinetic staff for range domination through balls
Skill: Venting Shriek to burn everything (and to save yourself if you build too much peril accidentally to start with) or Double Wall to bully mutants
keystone: Warp Siphon to use your skill more and generate more toughness.

Other builds are more refined, but this covers your bases to introduce the mechanics and play closer to a standard class with a mix of melee and ranged.
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>>576096015
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>/hdg/ dead
who could have predicted that making a game piss easy doesn't generate discussion (other than bait, which is the only thing that kept it alive)
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>/hdg/ dead
who could have predicted that no content, no bugfixes doesn't generate discussion (other than nerfnigger bait)
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so what happens to /hdg/'s divegrass team?
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Are we being raided
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>>576096743
>who could have predicted that no content, no bugfixes doesn't generate discussion
the darktide general is alive and well though?
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>>576096775
/coopg/ bros
It's time to join the /vg/ League
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>>576096856
kinda
The Helldivers general died with morale at an all-time low and no one made a new thread
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>>576096927
OK, go ahead and be the manager then instead of constantly begging faggots in /4ccg/ to do it you fucking pussy.
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>/hdg/ remnants currently present
so anyone interested in a lobby?
just to flex on coopg while we're stuck here waiting for a baker to make a new thread
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>>576097327
I'm fine remaining here
/hdg/ was only full of shit anyways
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are there any darktide mods/cheats/whatever that are a "must" ? i'm currently running full auto and scoreboard v2, just wondering if theres anything else that can improve the experience
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I never posted on /hdg/ but I enjoyed playing with them. Gucci Slippers and Spartan were my favorite regulars.
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>>576094312
Truth nuke
>>576094748
>>576095430
>>576095554
>>576096775
>>576096994
>>576097327
Why don’t you guys just move to /vm/ at this point? Multiple other generals have, at least until you’re out of whatever rut you’re stuck in
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>>575822680
He didnt do that though he at best asked for help with creating the Primarchs and even that we don’t really know also he knows and recognizes how dangerous they are that’s largely what the point of the Webway project was
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>>576097595
That place is scary no way.
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>>576097457
numericui, hub hotkey menus, enhanced descriptions, inspect from party finder, true level/current havoc assignment, anything else is basically cheating
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>>576097327
It's nice that hdg is just as lazy as coopg at making new threads. Truly we are brothers
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>>576097595
the speed/amount of posters were fine, the thread reached like 870. It's just that it really felt like almost no one wanted to be there anymore.
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>>576097595
This. Go sit at the weird kid's lunch table. Maybe the star citizen guys will trade their carrots
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>>576097794
I feel like that's every /vg/ thread
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My favorite class is the Skitarii
My favorite primary is the Amendment
ROCK AND STONE FOREVER!
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>>576097967
Those fags in /ksg/ will be there until they fucking die.
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>>576096015
god i hope escharumposting never dies, i always chuckle at these shitposts
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>hdg returns to coopg
Dead games together strong!
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>>576097731
thank you very much i will take a look
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>>576097794
what's there to talk about other than getting mad at swedes for being lazy faggots? with the game still being broken? The fucking stratagem bouncing somehow got even worse. I got an air tower mission where the tower is on a fortified hill with the terminal across it with a small depression between them.
Called the SSD right next to the tower. Bounced until it failed.
Called the SSD one hill level lower, still bounced until it failed.
Called the SSD another hill lever lower, still bounced until it failed.
Only when I ran to the foot of the hill did the beacon feel like not bouncing until it fails.
The main gimmick of Helldivers is broken and swedes are doing nothing.
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>>576098480
Indeed
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/hdg/ died???? this means dorktide is the BEST sweden slop EVER made, start kneeling chuddies
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>>576098584
Do you feel it in your heart? Does it leave a hole?
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>>576098790
this is the coop thread, not the darktide general
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>>576098790
shan't be kneeling to swiggers
no matter the kind
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well since hdg is finnaly kill how does coopg feels about robobutt
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ah hell na
not this faggot
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>>576098862
99% of the discussion here is only darktide or vermintide bwoh......
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>hdg is finally dead
Thank god, I was so fucking tired of plebbitors and jeetniggers.
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tranime niggers need to find a rope and a chair
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>>576097457
I use
>Scoreboard II
>Quick Character Select
>Curios Checker
>GodRolls
>Hadron's Curio Ranges
>True Level
>Show Crit Chance (which I only have on in psykhanium)
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>>576098936
rape
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>>576099078
>anime girl whipping you with a steelchair on a rope
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>>576097967
since it's a coop game that's true for lolg too
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775245090276382
you guys want lobby?
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>>576099336
no thanks
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>>576099336
6/7
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>>576099336
3/4
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>>576099336
damn this place is as dead as hdg is regards lobbies
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>>576099892
we don't do lobbies here, buddy
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>>576099975
a coop game general where you don't actually play coop games together? That sounds retarded.
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>>576097457
Psych Ward
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>>576100108
well, from what I KNOW coopg did host lobbies before a long time ago but seems like people stopped doing it because of the lack of interest
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>>576096015
Does halo have an active general? I never looked
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xKR-qCYG7A
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>big name helldivers tubers making darktide videos
insane that it only took swedes two years to kill their best game in a long time. Somehow darktides survived 4 which is unbelievable
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Helldivers had a general?
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>>576099067
We have a few of those here too sadly but not too many
>>576098936
You keep coming and leaving and it’s really weird
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>>576100584
A general, a drawfag, a divegrass team, regular lobbies... and these days we just die and return to /copeg/
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>>576100358
It does surprisingly enough. It’s still getting installments but I figured it was one of those relic franchises that people on here wouldn’t care for despite that.
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He won.
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>>576100479
I haven't played HD2 since the big Super Earth Invasion.

I don't want shitposting or smug posting; what's the honest truth of what's going on with HD2 since I played? Is it still at least fun to play casually?
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>>576100880
Sounds like you guys should just move to /vm/ like most of the slower generals.
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>>575981423
The crossover we all needed…
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>>576100974
performance and game ruining bugs have just been getting worse and worse. The devs keep making stupid fucking decision around balance while every enemy they've added has either been a reskin or a broken mess that doesn't fit with the rest of the game. We're on like 3 months of hearing basically nothing but meaningless bullshit with no major update in sight to address anything. The last thing we got was them updating the galactic war so that completing a series of Major Orders nets the community an actual reward in the form of a gun or armour. However to facilitate this they just took their latest unreleased warbond and chopped it up and are now giving it to us piecemeal to pretend like they're actually doing anything with the game. It's just a dreary state of affairs. And now this new 40k warbond is looking like another overwhelmingly mid experience that you'll have to pay 25 bucks for (unless you had the foresight to mod in 10k super credits)
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>>576100907
I grew up with it, so it will always hold a special place in my heart. That said I tapped out when 343 took over cause I think everything they've made is absolute trash
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>/hdg/ dies because it reached 800+ posts and they were too lazy to make a new one
>/copeg/ crossposters reveal themselves and declare it dead forever
>/copeg/ declares total victory over helldivers, again, for like the fifth time despite it never sticking
this is incredibly stupid and embarrassing to watch, again
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>>576100358
It does and we're still getting new regular players every couple of months. Some anon from /hdg/ joined us recently.
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>>576101356
Agreed with both. Great story, world, novels, characters, etc.
Shame that stuff like the newer games or the god awful live action show couldn’t measure up.
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>>576101341
Last I saw on my steam library, apparently they added some kind of car that spits out resupplies?

and I did hear about balance changes, mostly to pander to people who suck at the classic Level 10 difficulty? Unless I'm mistaken.
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>>576100974
It can be pretty fun if you don't take it too seriously.
Equipment balance is terrible. You have some weapons that are just terrible and others that are functionally a delete button.
Don't get me started on the content drought.
The devs don't know what they want the game to be, the community doesn't agree on what it should be, and any suggested change is viewed as a personal insult to either the group that wants the game easier or the one that wants it harder.
Shits fucked.
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How the fuck did nobody make a new /hdg/ for like two hours after bump limit. Do I have to do all the goddamn work here?

>>576102281
>>576102281
>>576102281
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What do the dropped stims do?
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>>576101769
Uhmmm, no they were right, hdg was dead.
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>>576102742
What do you mean? They're the same as the usual stims in Darktide
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>>576103297
Soon coopg will be dead, and we'll get to doompost in hdg
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>>576103297
Ignore him he just hates this place and likes to bitch
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>>576104527
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>>575949190
I do understand THOUGH
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>>576100108
Everyone's really mean so no one likes playing with each other
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>>576109449
I'm gonna shove a krak grenade up your ass.



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