Borgor Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=680756685198854910>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/threadlocked >>576623990
buff silver
you guys are some of the laziest fucks I have ever seen btw.how do NONE of you make a general before archive
I don't make generals lil gup
this is your team for the night, say something nice about them
graves bootjobs
that's not a burger
>hit bashdown for wrecked>stand on top of them shooting them while sliding for ammo>eventually they crack and parry>fuck them to death with the bati dont know how it never stops working they always get scared
>>576683203I knew you'd make one for me goy.
>>576683203the general shouldn't even exist this shit belongs on >>>/trash/ because all that gets posted here is off-topic furfag and troon bullshit.
>>576683354Shiv, Ven and GOAT seem to know to stick together I guess.If I had to guess Venator died in a big fight and bully and shib got whittled down and picked off while trying to do a fighting retreat.
borgor
Every game I win my lane or at worst break even and I'm top souls in the game, but 10-15 minutes later I'm suddenly near bottom net worth. What am I doing wrong? Are you supposed to just brool nonstop after laning? Do lane creeps give more souls than jungle creeps?
>>576683354I've lost 15 games in a row with teammates like this the past few days. :) It's so much fun! The other team is playing in DNS too.
>>576683774Lane creeps give more souls yes. jungle creeps and boxes and sinners are boosters and denying the enemy the chase to pad their souls but if you need souls you do lanes primarily.
>>576683774>Are you supposed to just brool nonstop after laning?No>Do lane creeps give more souls than jungle creeps?YesAfter lane your priority should be something like Lane creeps (mad money) = urn/rift > stealing enemy jungle/boxes > taking your own jungle/boxes
How do I do better damage as a gun heroes? This and the last match I played with Warden left me feeling woefully underbaked compared to the enemy DPS even when they weren't super fed.
When a ranked game is found, you should be forced to manually "accept" the match by using your microphone with a voice command.
I love how you just don't get to play the game if youre laning against bebop
>>576684215I like fighting him, my goal is always to turtle the fuck up behind my guardian and let him spend 5-8 minutes without getting any bomb stacks
>Viscous redesigns, both official and fanmade all look weird at best and hideous at worst.I hope Valve nails it eventually, maybe they could incorporate elements of his original body into his goo body, leaf sheeps remind me of Viscous despite him being an anemone.
>>576683938get more monies
>>576684415his current model is fine just get rid of the default skeleton insdie him
>>576683203this is the only general i've been a part of where 3 schizos dont bake a new thread at 730 posts and beg people to use their thread for some kind of dopamine rush i guess idk
>>576684953>>576683203no one cares about this game anymore
>>576684953we're addicted to the game not the general believe it or not
I just realized they deleted some ranks in the update, and Ritualist/Emissary are 1 higher than they were previously.>Alchemist = Acolyte>Arcanist = Sentinel>Ritualist = Mystic>Emissary = Ritualist>Archon = Emissarythe rest are the same.
what's the interaction with split shot + ricochet?
Is Fortitude a good item?
>>576685234Split shot procs ricochet so if you shoot two people with split shot they'll also both take ricochet damage.
>>576684953yeah i hate xivg too
never ask an Ixian supremacist the race of his girlfriend
why has rank 1 seven/wraith, face of deadlock, /dlg/ ourguy, metro fallen to oracle 5?
if anybody is curious how the player count looks.it's interesting how many people are in all of oracle, it also looks like an outlier because it's consistent across the whole tier, while the rest seem to have a larger amount of people at the 6th step of the tier.
Soon....soon
>>576685590your hero choices make it look like you get fucked in the ass
>>576685550am retarded. time to sleep.
>>576685526highest ranks are in phantom right nowmetro will get boosted eventually
>>576684338Bopchad here, bomb stacks are bait, I'll uppercut a bunch of troopers into your guardian.
>>576685621I actually dont like anal, whether it be mine or a cute girl's or a guy's
>>576685730i dont prefer it but i assume you're a man
>>576685730i have a feeling you still considered it
>>576685702i had a bebop do this to me but i just easily dodge the troopers and the bombs on them and then he just left
>>576684338i go gunbop anyways, ill get my stacks after lane phase just fine
I hope Haze gets reworked so I can have a hero that rewards aim that isn't a hybrid spirit degenerate
>>576686219unironicallywhy the FUCK is she not just THE fixation/aim character?why is she ALWAYS this bumfuck gimmicky one shot cheese garbage that actively punishes you for trying to use her 3?why is THE aim character forced into gimmick shit?
>>576686440go play cawadudy
>>576686440All they had to do was make Ursa but ranged and they fucked her up into some unholy abomination, it's grim man
>>576686440replace sleep daggers with aimbot
>>576686503cawadudy doesn't reward consistent tracking, it's a twitch shooter like every other shooter these days
>>576686516ursa ult+abyssal = haze+curse
3/7 MG absolutely shitting on my entire team.Amazing.
>>576686584And dont forget my wraith that ended with 12k player damage.
This update is the final nail in the proverbial coffin of Deadlock
i fucking hate people who player silver/sinclair in ranked. like why go into a game where everyone on your team is trying to win picking the most dogshit characters in the game that aren't even easy to play. at least just pick graves and spam slop at the enemy
>>576686713t. boosted whore paid 1k$ for Eternus VI
>>576686847>like why go into a game where everyone on your team is trying to winsilver is throwpicksinclair is soulpick
>>576686847Sneakily slipping Silver in there like we wouldn't notice, I see.
>>576687185>sinclair is soulpickMore like faggottuber ecelebpickshit
>>576687643mad cuz bad
>>576683938you're just like my friend whenever he plays m1ggersalways some score like 2-3-25 and lowest dmg, lowest obj, while farming all game
>>576686219>>576686440This is a MOBA, dipshit.
Thoughts on the new hip Venator build?
>>576688010Where is Active Reload?
progress was made towards taking the sheriff to ranked... the quality of standard games has gone to absolute shit soaked in skunk piss yoshi what the fuck put everyone in low prio already and keep them there for 200 games so they stop disconnecting after dying 7 times in 5 minutes
>>576688094>50 minutes>not scoredwhat the actual fuck
>>576686853Found the trannyyesma'am
>>576688196I accept your concession
>>576688123>50>43>34>50crazy that so many people will play that long and then just abandon
>>576688281it's crazy the game still considers that "not scored" what the fuck are the devs smoking
>>576688010its missing tankbuster
>>576688092I guess you're supposed to slide + use vamp burst when low ammo since it has fleetfoot.I think the nerf to slowing bullets was the reason for changing the build.
>>576686847this but Graves.at least Silver can pop off if the player is really good and Sinclair can auto win against a team with Seven/DynamoGraves is fucking worthless at everything
>>576687963completely irrelevant to the point, you autistic monkey.fucking pseud response.
>>576688974>Graves is fucking worthless at everything>top winrateuuuh, sure?
>>576689058MOBAs don't have "aim characters". If that bothers you, consider playing something else.
R8 moleste build
>>576686440>why is THE aim character forced into gimmick shit?thats venator
>>576689124graves and miku players have gaslit the community into thinking their character sucks
>>576683609but graves is a girl
>>576689772bigot
>>576689346>kelvin, seven, graves in B>drifter and doorman at the topis he in phantom at least?
powerful.
Is it even possible to be banned from the Deadlock beta for anything other than cheats? Or does griefing/abandoning/communication give put you in low prio at worst?
>>576689143relative to the base gameplay?Yes? you fucking retarded newfaggot tranny?Ezreal is literally that.stop announcing that deadlock is your first moba, pedophile.
>>576689346>Silver >S-tier>In pubsAnd of course this nigga downplays Kelvin too.
>>576689346>Doorman top 3>Drifter top 2why does anyone unironically watch this ugly fuck again?
>>576689346>S+ tierJust ignore any tier list from anyone that does this.
just got matched with 5 fr*nch people who did absolutely nothing but run around and die alonethe retard i had to lane with on geist never hit a single bomb, never hit creeps (except when they came into tower he walked up to them and tanked them) and never life drained the enemy in lanei had a paige with only purple items and none of them were knockdowns against the seven that somehow (wow still losing to this shitter huh?) killed them every time, and no no one else bought it eithera lash that did his only ulti i saw on the ground on a dead targeta gun wardenan afk push mcginnis never showing up to a single objective
>>576690397non nonthose french "people" were actually russiansreal frogfuckers would surrender at the start
https://gamebanana.com/mods/700539why the FUCK has nobody said anything about this mod.
The only joy i get from deadlock is intentionally feeding and going afk .I love heaving my teammates get mad, knowing they can`t do anything about it. But i'm starting to worry i'll catch a ban for it. I mean i've never been punished, no low-priority, no timed MM bans, no nothing. But i've been doing it more and more and maybe my time will come. But it feels so bad queueing into games knowing i can't AFK/grief in them if the game is not going well for me.
>>576690740it was posted a couple threads backsomeone complained it wasn't loli enough and everyone stopped caring
>>576690787No one will even register you as trolling. Very clever. You really trolled those guys by playing like a retard
>>576683136Guys I think Deadlock is a fun game!
Finally went up a subrank, it only took all night and tryharding my ass off
>>576690992Today i had a guy go "this was the only match i could play after work and this is what i get" as i fed intentionally over and over. You could tell how exhasperated he was. Nothing feels better than that. I love those precious 20 minutes where i can make people my slaves, i'm the master of their misery. but i don't want to get banned. Maybe i should make an alt just to do this.
>>576690740>Generic weeb shitGee I wonder.
>>576690787>>576691293This is the same impotent, random, violent nihilism inherent to the American "soul" that produces both mass shooters and lines like "pull yourself up by the bootstraps", "learn to code", etc. Americans are a fundamentally selfish, envious, spiteful people and as their momentum steadily burns out more and more of them revert to the core of the American persona, which is this.
karbinedox is unironically OP
why do the base guardians do so much damage holy fuck i was in their range for like 2 seconds
>>576689881>>576690152you've never played against any drifter or doorman that isn't rat rank and it showst. phantom chud
>>576691947To kill you retard.
>>576691691Cool but i'm not american
Playing as Billy gives you a secret buff where in melee range people are so terrified of you they'll start doing the most retarded shit imaginable.
>Seven is broken>Put him on my ban list>Still is literally on the enemy team every single game without fail
>>576692569the avoid button actually just makes you go against that hero
>>576692168Spiritually American
>>576692569same but with wraith
>>576692569He's broken?Every seven in my low oracle games goes 0/5 in laneSoaks up all the farmAnd dies instantly to a bebop hook or a frontlinerThese fuckers are active 50/50 agents
>>576692767people have apparently forgotten how to play against seven
How true is the statement "2 kills = mid" to you? Because 2 kills is basically the base requirement for the team to do midboss and easily secure it. Yet when I play with my friends and we get 2 kills and I call mid, the amount of times they refuse to do it or even say "that isn't the right move right now" is insane. In the same vein, the amount of times our team gets 2 deaths and they go straight for mid (because it is the right move) and they secure mid and fuck our asses is also insane. A friend even said "why are they doing mid right now that's strange" (we lost that game after they took mid) and it just leaves my brain stunned. Actual real life CC There is no downsides to taking midboss for your team. Yes, sometimes even getting 2 kills does not equal mid because there are other factors of the game you need more (eg: your lanes are pushed up and need clearing). Taking mid boss ALWAYS means you can do other things in the game more freely, more easily, and better, with the added advantage of having 3 revives. 9/10 times though 2+ kills = mid because it is 100% beneficial to your team. Getting mid helps you take walkers. Helps you take base. Helps you push lane. Help you jungle. Pressures your enemy. Why the FUCK do players not want to do mid?
>>576693075Depends entirely on the comp of both teams.
>>576693075just don't play with them if they don't listen to calls
>play apollo>get like 3 lane kills>proceed to eat every cooldown and ult the moment I appear for a teamfight>win the game because the enemy team throws just to kill the lowest impact/souls player
>>576693185How so? Like I said, yes, there are times where getting 2 kills might not mean you all rush mid, but when your team is already in blue lane, getting kills, has relatively good lane pressure, and 3/4+ HP, even if your team comp isn't perfect you can all melt midboss before the enemy team can react. Getting mid provides so many bonuses for your team that any downsides it might have are outweighed at the moment.
>>576693445ragebait is a viable role in team games
holy shit this current eternus race is the biggest fraud bullshit I have ever seen, duos ruined any semblance of legitimacy
>>576692121I was ascendant on multiple accounts before the patch btw, retarded pedophile.Drifter was good until he was nerfed and doorman is fucking terrible.kill yourself.
doorman instant door close should just he his 5 ap upgrade or CDR should lower the time before you can close it
>>576693912kind of a good idea, honestly.nerfs door range into fair ranges, gives back safety and belligerent kidnapping.now unnerf gunman/bellman and we're cooking (aka just fucking undo march 9th, actually undo march 9th for fucking everyone. EVERY patch since then has been fucking dogshit)
How do I become the team leader to my bricklow teammates without being 'THAT' guy
>>576693459yeah but if the enemies that are alive are an unstop refresher dynamo + yamato + max boon abrams it's gonna be tough securing it if they decide to contest even if you have your own unstops.Usually though yes, if everyones in mid and you get two picks you should try to rush it or at least bait a fight to try and pick off any stragglers.
>>576693075>How true is the statement "2 kills = mid" to you?entirely depends on WHO the kills are on and what timeare we all low? not a good call, we get wipedis our Vyper across the map? risky calldo they have respawns soon and do they have zip to mid boss?is Infernus/Dynamo/Abrams(Tier 3)/Vyper(Tier3)/Yamato alive?ehhh
>>576694223you simply have to become that guy.
>>576694223you literally just say things in a monotone voice that nobody could be offended by. do not give ANY reasonings for your call (unironically really important, the low class bottom feeders might to think for themselves and fuck up your calls)>we should take their jungleafter getting Rejuv>oh but shouldn't we get walkersStarve them of souls, build lead and then we can push walkerskill two? >go midunwinnable rift?>don't fight thiswaves look bad?>fix waves, if we die while waves are this bad we lose 1-3 walkers
>>576694223Become that guyIf it makes you feel better, even oracle players right now have to shot-call because holy shit the average player's macro is terribleThe most simple stuff is this: DON'T INT A LEAD FOR RIFT OR LAST WALKERRift especially since if you have a lead, the enemy will have resists to compensate and its the only way for them to turn back the gameWalkers are the same, last walker especially do not int for walker please I beg of you
PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKIGN BAD AT THIS GAMEWHY DID I GO FROM MATCHING WITH COMPETENT PEOPLE AND GETTING MVP ALL THE TIME TO PLAYING 1V6 WITH LITERAL BOTS WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT YOSHI
I'm on a 5 game ranked win streak I think they palced me to low
I FUCKING CANT DUDEWHAT IS THIS NIGGER GARBAGE
>>576696129we love ivy here
>play deadlock 10-15 minutes in>have similar souls>enemy can kill you in 3 seconds>you meanwhile do no damagewhat causes thisI don't get this game
i think the dumbest fucking part of this game is how someone who is 1-7 can be equal/have even more souls than someone who is 14-1-15
>>576696701>levels>power spikes (4.8k investments and so on)>skill level up priority>permanent buffs from objectives and golden idols/sinnersbasically they got a power spike you haven't hit yet, when you have that advantage you want to use it to keep or widen the gap between teams.
>>576696901That's actually one of the reasons I think Deadcock is more normalfag friendly than other MOBA in principle, but less normalfag friendly on the surface.Even if you get dumpstered in lane you can farm, play safer and come back, rarely the case in other ASSFAGGOTS, when you hit a point of no return where your game is over.
>>576696901Yeah it's kind of annoying how much farm outweights kill participation in terms of soul acquisition, makes it harder to solo carry the lobby.
>>576697161idk I think dying 5 fucking times in lane should remove your ability to be a factor in the game just like literally every other game ever but whatever.
>>576696129did you duo with someone from /dlg/?
>>576697238>1 smurf/1 guy doing exceptionally well/1 cheater/1 dipshit playing a character with no real counter should not only do really well but also just win the game for his team, yes, I do in fact want to be utterly dogwalked when this happens to me, I'd not advocate for it otherwise, would I>>576697264>Yes I do in fact want people who fuck up early on to just have no reason to stay in the game after that, bouncing back as a mechanic is bad, I want 30-50 minute games to be decided within the first ten minutes, if you play a character that's weak early on but strong mid-game or late-game that's your problemHeights of conceptualization here
do NOT queue sheev right now!P.S: I can't believe OTPs exist when the game has a dedicated no OTP feature...
Apollo and Mina should kick the enemy lane players from the server at the start of the game.
>>576693075>>576693459like the other anons said it really depends on team comps and the state of ults, i can try to elaborate a bit on why4 enemies contesting mid still creates enough pressure on your team to have to group up in pit to scramble for the rejuv claims, which is obviously very dangerous into aoeslop heroes that can drop nukes into pitivy + paradox + calico + infernus is an extreme example, but stone form and potential swap plays will make your team want to hang out in pit to punch/parry after those are used, but if you do that you get completely mulched by gloom bombs + para bomb + kudzu and that's before bringing flame dash or infernus ult into the equation. also into a comp like that you're guaranteed dead if you get parried in pit against that amount of aoeslop, so even if you DO get the rejuv credits they're immediately gone>melt mid boss before the enemy team can reactthis will only get you so far because good players will know when you want to go for mid boss with your picks, and if they have the right comp to contest with, then contesting 4v6 is better than handling the waves even if both sidelanes are shoving inyou would want all 3 lanes to be shoving for it to be really safe but that's incredibly rare
>>576696478i love people who go extra charge rescue beam in lane toomakes for a great experience
>>576697806>>Yes I do in fact want people who fuck up early on to just have no reason to stay in the game after that,correct, if you lose 5 times in a row because of dogshit play. you don't deserve to have an impact on the game anymore.the MOST you should be allowed is to be average, NEVER should you be most souls/2nd most on a team while 1-7
>>576698218That sounds pretty retarded, and if this setup is implemented it'll just make it so nobody would have any reason to play characters that are weak early on, since this way they either play absurdly carefully and spend the first ten minutes as basically a living tumor on the guardian, or they just get hunted down and removed from the game in terms of impact.
>>576690740Not loli enough as mentioned, satisfies nobody.
>>576698579anon you're talking to an apollofag that hates m1ggers
>win game>my mirage has 46k net>lowest damage in the gamehow do these people win 15 games and still dont know how to play
>>576698634So? I'm bored at work and find entertainment in this attempt to sell the idea that a 50-minute match should be decided by what tribe of orangutans heavy-melees and parries each other harder in the first five minutes of the game. I want to see more of it.
>>576686440She was genuinely so fun when everybody just built her as an m1 and most people hadn't yet realized metal skin shits on her.
>>576698579you can have weak early game characters, I am fucking saying DYING 5 TIMES SHOULD MEAN YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO CARRYwhy are you putting words in my mouth, retard?if you die 5 times early in League/Dota you're out of the game>>576698634I have 3 games on Apollo since his release. try again, pedophile.
>>576697841I sincerely hope they:1 - keep the 3 char select2 - never add Draft
>>576699323I mean I kind of agree, I was throwing games on purpose in lane when standard queue came out and we still won lolAt least in low rank standard it seems like both teams always end up at roughly the same souls after a while and then it's just a matter of who throws with long respawn times first
>>576699323>DYING 5 TIMES SHOULD MEAN YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO CARRYWhy? Why, in your head, dying five times early on automatically means somebody shouldn't be allowed bounce back off of heavy farming and avoiding fights, and then go 15-5 in total for the match? Why are you opposed to an idea as basic as a comeback, and why do you want a match to be decided by that somebody gets dumpstered early on? Why should somebody who fucked up early on even bother staying in the match instead of just leaving?
Isn't it also a lot harder to kill someone five times in lane, without a massive skill difference of course, in other mobas because everybody doesn't have a gun that can casually hit them across lane and there's no parrying and towers are stronger and every character doesn't have the movement to dive super hard and still get out?
>>576699453exactly the issue, nothing fucking matters pre 20 mins. the only thing that matters is when you have picks for mid.retarded concept.>>576699683because if you die 5 times you do not deserve to have a carry impact because of how fucking horrible you played, you should have to be carried by your team/be a curse bot. how many times do I need to reiterate it for your retarded ass?do I need to use even smaller words?
>>576690740not as sexy as the fat assed one and not loli enough but still good
>>576700349>if you play poorly early on you should be a net drain on the team for the entire game, and be unable to turn that around!>why?>because if you play poorly early on, you should be a net drain on the team for the entire game, and be unable to turn that around!I hope this is bait.
>>576700621>>because if you play poorly early on, you should be a net drain on the team for the entire game, and be unable to turn that around!correct. just like every other moba around.retarded tourist
What item can I buy to counter parry? Pretty retarded mechanic ngl
>>576700798you can't get stunned if you're cc immune, so shit like unstoppable and indomitablealso you can play brawl and roll for the legendary fists that ignore parry
>>576700798unironically fleetfoot and whatever the fuck the other item ischarge heavy melee, fleet foot to cancel animation, bait parry with it, then melee the fuck out of themivytards have been doing it for a while but with stone form instead of fleetfoot active.
>lane partner initiates a brawl early in lane>they dip the instant I join in>I get 2v1'd and raped and die>they type ?>Well Played!I euthanise
>>576700697>just like every other moba around.Just like all other mobas, Deadlock features over-the-shoulder camera perspective, melee, fucking parrying of all things, aiming instead of autoattacking and overall is also a shooter, with the map designed around being a shooter, various-effort movement techniques, three-dimensional movement, with some characters designed to utterly humiliate and ragebait the enemy if their movement is used to its fullest potential... But it's exactly like other mobas, okay!Sure buddy
deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game
Why don't mobafags just go play the other mobas they love so much instead of crying that Deadlock isn't more like them?
>>576701003I don't want to do all that shit to counter opponent pressing F lol
>>576701170what should it have been?
>>576701364an actual MOBA. or a proper hero shooter like tf2
cool
>>576701170>>576701419100% correctLiterally nobody is happy except for a tiny number of autists
why the fuck I have so much fun with ivy? I don't even know how to play her I just fly around and drop bombs and I have fun
Remove guns from the game alreadyGo play CS2 if you want to shoot people so bad
>>576701714you want a moba without auto attacking?
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=magician_henry_use_power3_02.mp3
>>576701859these people want deadlock without guns and without a third dimension to move throughso, league of legends
>>576701485If you disregard the movement autism that is only important in the top brackets, this game is a much more laid back ASSFAGGOTS, I don't know what you guys are smoking. Compared to LoL or Dotard I am bing chilling on this game.There's no last hits, you have advantage for securing orbs. Moving around the map is fast so my dogshit macro is less impactful. Shop item prices are all standardized in tiers so I can know when to back just thinking about the 800/1600/3200/6400 items I want. Only three item categories. Only 4 active items so I'm not handicapped by my lower brain power that can only handle three actives at full capacity. No warding. Shops everywhere and health creep so I only have to reset if I'm 100hp in lane. No mana.It's basically only impressive at a first glance because this game is a sensory overload. If you are just mid at shooter games it's a very easy game to wrap your head around. Of course high level play it's a completely different game since they optimize every aspect, but if you aren't aiming for Ascendant or higher it's not overwhelming.
>>576701997>add autoaim on all heroes>instead of wacky movement have a jump button>1 hero gets a double jump>slow everybody down so 10% hp fag can't just run le run awayThere, I've solved it.
>>576692208I know who you are
>>576702234That sounds incredibly boring and you should just go play something else. No one wants any of that.
>>576700798Fleetfoot is the most popular choice.
>>576702098>If you are just mid at shooter gamesTall order for the average fag in here.
>>576702098If you've spent any time on 4chan you know the average "gamer" on here fucking sucks. It's fucking crazy actually how bad they are considering they spend all of their time on video game related boards. Just go to any thread on /v/ whenever a new "hard" game releases.
>Yamato flames me in lane (Victor into Vindicta + Infernus so unplayable) with typical REPORT VICTOR AFK TROLLING>We win the game>Tell him to chill out and not to be toxic all the time>He actually apologises This game can be surprisingly wholesome at timesFully expected him to spam kys nigger
GAS ALL SLAVS
>>576702618>(Victor into Vindicta)I love playing VIndicta against Victor, your revive counts as a death for her stacks. Be sure to feed her more stacks.
>>576702307>focus on strategic thinking is boringWhy don't you just play titanfall or something? Genuinely what's the target audience for this game?
>>576702715I didn't because I'm LE HIGH ELO victor but there was some funny interactions in teamfights where>Holiday ulted with my aura up>Vyper ults me too>I am now invulnerable>With my aura active>Shred the team of with their squishesThis was low oracle too so what the fuck
>>576702669even czechs?
>>576702817What about slowing the game to a crawl because YOU can't into the mechanics is making the game "more strategic"? >Genuinely what's the target audience for this game?Not you.
>>576692667Shouldn't you always avoid REM then for the free bags?
>>576703019>What about slowing the game to a crawl because YOU can't into the mechanics is making the game "more strategic"? Because faggots amping up their reflexes with doritos and mountain dew can no longer win vs superior strategy.
>>576702618I've had people add me on like three separate occasions, and they always ended up apologising because I just respond neutrally. Weak willed individuals
>>576703141>p-please remove these features s-so i can actually win, p-pleaseYou are not going to magically climb and get better if they slow the game down. If you don't like the game, go play something else. No one is making you play this closed beta game.
>>576702905basically anyone that sucks off russia. if you aren't one of these then I don't have a problem. but anyone that does tends to exhibit the same subhuman behaviours as russian themselves. they idolise the great ape.
>>576703348Yeah I know that nigga, but did you understand why my suggestions would make the game more strategic?
>>576703474Yeah let's reduce the base movespeed in DOTA by 2/3rds so the game can be more strategic. They should remove all mobility items and abilities too, actually.Retard.
>get the urge to play>dont want to suffer through a crushing defeathow do i overcome this
Old or new?
>>576703474They only need to remove cornerboosting and other bugs, and get rid of charges on Holiday's bounce pad and Yamato's grapple. The movement is fine at a baseline.
>>576690740>given a flat reference image>makes the boobs bigger anywaynot very professional of you commission maneither way I think anime mods look uncanny in deadlock
>victor is easy to shutdown just counterbuy him and buy anti-heal>mcginnis is easy to shutdown just counterbuy her and rush her down because she can't escape>graves is easy to shutdown just shoot her skulls and shoot her to deathis that why these three are winning so much in ascendant and above?
>>576703474It would make it more strategic for (You) because you could compete against players with far better mechanics than you. That doesn't mean it'd make it more strategic for a server of players capable of using those mechanics you want removed.
>>576703656never lose again for the rest of your life, it's the only way.
>Master Deadlock movement in ONE video>hook of the video is the guy demonstrating routes with fast stamina regen in sandbox modeliteral snake oil salesmen
way easier to tell at a glance when someone is low with these healthbars
>>576704517It's not easier or harder.
https://youtu.be/cbTADTqM9ckeven former professionals know the situation with russians. when can we expect segregation from these nons?
>>576704517problem is it sucks for HOW much health they have, as opposed to how low they are.
>>576703656https://youtu.be/t4A-Ml8YHyMwatch this. of course, you probably are making some mistakes. but even in an ideal situation it's totally possible you commit no mistakes and still lose in the end.
>>576704034what do you counterbuy for mcginnis?
>>576704034Averages are fundamentally dishonest, there could be good players hidden in a crowd of bad or vice versaAlso Apollo on top is a big tell this is retarded
>>576704304t.
>>576704981Apollo has an extremely strong early game and at high elo games can end at 25 minutes. Makes perfect sense to me this is simply the chaff and the wheat of actually high mmr
>>576704034>>576704981It's flawed data because hardly anybody is even in ascendant at the moment. A lot of those characters don't even have a hundred matches at that rank.
>>576705470what is the point of ascendant level data when the average /dlg/fag isn't even close to that level?
cube needs to be viscous' ult and slime roll needs to be a normal ability
>>576705707I didn't realize the slime roll was an ult it just seems like a nothingburger move. Maybe it's good and I've never seen a good viscous idk
Make Viscous ult size scale with spirit
>>576704785>"Arteezy" Babaev (also known as 天鸽) (born July 1, 1996) is an inactive Canadian/Uzbek player>UzbekMнe двe в cыpнoм.
>>576705707cube needs to removed
>no new content>ranked turned into a mode for masochists>suddenly a bunch of stunned niggers come out of the woodworks and shit up the threadsome new game came out and they're taking it out on us?
>>576706081blowing a raspberry on that belly
>>576705905The ult's fucking garbage, viscouses literally only ever use it to escape fights
>>576706059yes but they will never do that so atleast make it an ult with a long cooldown so it cant be echo sharded
>>576705905It's a **FUN** ult not a good ult.
>>576705470When the sample size is that small I just throw it out all together and look at like 10 peopleImplicitly what you are doing when you average a sample together is giving every entry an equal value. The #1 is the same weight as the #87 even though he is probably magnitudes greater skill. The skill diff is tightest at the mean and at the extreme top end it expands, not contracts.
>>576704923thank you anon, this made me feel better
>>576693830Niggers really flexing ascendant. LOL
>>576705905>there are people that missed gooball+warpstoneI hate yoshi
standard matches feel so fucking bad right now, you either get a competent team or the biggest retards ever that have no clue what macro is
t4 green item that combines rebuttal and counterspell, allowing to you reflect status ailments or damage from counterspell'd abilities
>>576703793With the new ones, it's not very clear how much hp something actually has.Still needs some tweaking, a higher contrast markers for each 1000 hp or so would be nice
>>576706712what if the item saved the last parried ability or item effect used and allowed you to cast it once at a later point?
why is the spirit bridge buff so garbage compared to the gun buff?
if youre playing your main in standard, your practically smurfing
>>576706601it's literally ranked as well. no difference. they ruined the game again.
>>576707041most characters end at 200~ spirit, spirit buff is over 30% of that
>>576707361>its good at 50 minutes brolol
>>576706878>counterspell affliction>can now rape the entire enemy team on billyLMAO
>>576707041more like why does movement buff even existthe fuck am I supposed to do with that compared to regen, cooldown reduction or fire rate
>>576707428buffs cap out at 30 you disingenuous retard
>>576707458you can escape anyone for free, or chase anyone for free
>>576706878Nah that'd be way too strongImagine two of your teammates parry Death Slam and now all of a sudden they can autowin any teamfight. Would maybe work as a legendary variant in Brawl
>>576707678your team should counterspell those counterspelled Death Slams tooit's perfectly balanced
when are they segregating sl*vs from evropa they're basically our version of argentinians. just a worthless fucking people.
>>576708186>sl*vswhy all slavs at once?just ban poles
>>576703539Does dota require you to play a rhythm game to move at top speed?>>576704075It would weigh strategy over twitch reactions. Clearly none of you niggers are /vst/ chads, but it is the same thing with RTS and why they died the fuck out - because APM mattered more than strategy. Only having a strategic layer for 0.0001% top players is pretty dumb.
>>576705905
>HAZE FUCKING SUCKS!!!>she still dominates every match she's in no matter what she builds whether it's echo shard dagger still or generic ricochet m1 carry
>>576708303poles are literally the only ones among you that aren't subhuman. way to expose yourself though vlad.
>>576708334>same thing with RTS and why they died the fuck outyeeeah, AoE2 revival certainly never happenedno one talked about it, at all
>>576708402build an unstoppable? no way man!
>>576708512Haven't heard anyone talk about it>2019kek
>>576708475poles are european slavs though"just a worthless fucking people" in your own words
>>576708334>Does dota require you to play a rhythm game to move at top speed?actually yes
I like playing meme builds in standard and just having fun instead of sweating and getting mad in ranked.Having lots of fun with melee Venator with Warp Stone and Echo Shard.
Does anyone actually like playing this game?Like if they took away ranked mode so you couldn't chase a rank, would you still play?
why aren't you queueing up as venator/wraith/haze/vyper only if you have the aim for it?>matchmaking guarantees that there's at least one m1 carry on the team (you)>generally strong throughout all phases of the game unless you get astrogapped in lane by the other team>ensures that the other teammates you get are all supportcucks or spiritcucks that are easier to play>makes sure that you don't have to rely on some random m1 carry faggot not being able to aim
>>576708610yeah, it's certainly not dead for a 7 year old game
>>576708651I know, I was even gonna mention largo lolAnd it's good to have some options, but to make it mandatory is retarded
>>576708859Now post multiplayer numbers lmaooooooo
>>576708793I've played it for the fun of it before the ranked update and hovered around alchemist and arcanist border, because I really didn't want to climb to where my melee Yamato wouldn't be viable. I will continue to not care about my rank even though I am now a brickchad.
So ideally you want to hold onto this fucking thing until the clock hits 30 minutes, so you get the tier 3 statue buffs out of it?
>>576708793we don't have any clear numbers on how many people play standard, but I'd guess if ranked got deleted 30-40% of the pop would remain
>>576708651Love this guys release, but it came too late and I only really played him once since I don't touch dota anymore.
>>576709664No, the buffs won't matter that late. Just cash out at 10 mins.
>>576709664You want to hold onto it until right before an important fight, because the buffs mean shit if you lose. The best time to drop it is right after 10m as soon as it'll pay for your next item, keeping yourself debuffed for 30 minutes is griefing.
>>576708334The APM cope is always funny because you can watch videos where people play handicapping their APM and they have to start adopting less complex strategies and stall on things they want to do because 60APM or whatever can't keep up with their brain. But there's always retards like you who think they're a strategic mastermind gatekept by the ludicrous demand of having to actually execute their genius ploys when in reality you just want everything to be slower and easier so you can keep up. A painfully common type of person on here that thinks games are only truly strategic when they're so dumbed down that even (You) can execute a strategy. At least normalfags tend to have the decency to admit something's too hard for them.
>>576709664I think it is (or rather was) that you popped it when it would get you a powerspike item before an important fight with the souls being at 2200-2500 range. I don't know what's "optimal" now but I never go it because I play to win lane since someone has to save my teammates from themselves.
>>576708859>7 year old gameanon...>Clearly none of you niggers are /vst/ chads, but it is the same thing with RTS and why they died the fuck out - because APM mattered more than strategy.Ah it's APM schizo complaining about movement; Colour me surprised.
>>576709664I only buy egg if I lose lane or am going to farm a lot after winning lane
>>576708793considering that I'm playing normal right now, yeah
>>576709664I get it on victor and I keep it until it buys me ee after all the necessary greens and purples (before 30 mins)It’s powerspike dependent because the buffs aren’t that crazy to hold it for
>>576710006Everything you just said is disproven by the existence of TBS.
>>576710254in context of its "release", yeah it's 7 years oldthey nuked the previous hd version from the store so for most people it's only that old
>>576708793I've played two ranked games, one was a shitstomp win the other was an extremely close game that was winnable game but teammates went full DAVAI charging into fights while we were down 40k so we lost; I underperformed too so it was really deserved loss for me. The rest of my games are all normal games and I'm having a blast most of the time since it feels like mmr changes way faster in it so you get lobbies with everyone comming constantly and midboss contests etc etc just like in ye goode ol' days of '24.
>>576710006It's literally one dude from /vst/ I don't know why he's so entitled and so dedicated to it but he is. /vst/ers also shit on him there but he marches on for his cause no matter the odds.
I think that, sometimes, it is your team that loses you the game and there's nothing you could have done.
>>576710782>sometimes
>>576708475Hi Andrej
>>576710589>in context of its "release", yeah it's 7 years oldYou might as well judge a game's age for when the individual player first started playing it. Updating the graphics doesn't make it a completely new game that's like considering each iteration of a styleistic chessboard as a newgame.
>team is underperforming>bebop says gg and throws the match>two matches in a rowwhats with this character playerbase
>>576708186>just a worthless fucking peopleESL bro?
>>576710782Yes but it's better to huff copium and believe "There's gotta be something *I* could of done to win the game" or you stagnate and lose games where your individual performance would actually turn the tides.
>>576708186>they're basically our version of argentiniansWhy does this wording make it sound like you're outing yourself as a Brasilian? Who the fuck even plays with Argies outside SA?
>>576697051IN A FEW SECONDS IT'LL ALL BE OVER
>>576710769Most of the board disagrees with you lol
>>576711625Keep up the fight, if only you put this much effort into improving maybe you could still play RTS.
>>576711786I play RTS. For their fun single player campaigns. Me and what did Blizzard say, 98% of RTS players? With 80% literally never clicking the multiplayer button?Keep up the superior feeling of mastering a skill practically nobody wants or needs. Perhaps another 1000 hours and you can earn a jpeg medal or two.
>>576711117it's a different "product", so I guess I'm counting its new population and balance patches as reliant on the latest date of releaseeven if the base game is over 2 decades old
>>576710782>>576710934>>576711265>game is obviously gg and done and over with by minute 10-15 because the enemy team are all better players with better characters and the people on my team are drooling retards>type gg>everyone else on my team yells out NO ITS NOT OVER WE CAN STILL WIN THIS KEEP IT UP GUYS LETS PUSH A WALKER>we loserinse repeat 90% of the matches
When are they buffing Silver? She does nothing that actually makes you win games.
someone needs to just make basic meta 3-4 row build guides for every hero just aping eternus buildsi hate 90% of builds they are so badly structured and is either some personal dogshit build or just every item in the game listed in no particular orderwheres the tortelini of deadlock
>>576702876le high elo>oracle 2
>>576712061>everyone else on my team yells outand then the enemy team clapped
>>576709664You sell it after 10 minutes, before the first rift.Holding onto it any longer is practically trolling.
i grief standard games
>>576712203I have a build generator now that uses the top 20 players for that hero, takes a frequency and applies a couple rules I think it’s serviceable at this point, it doesn’t give 800’s for lane or situationals tho. Give me a hero you know well and we can see how bad/good it is
>>576712203>i hate 90% of builds they are so badly structured and is either some personal dogshit build or just every item in the game listed in no particular orderthat happens because it depends on how that build author plays the charactereven the most cookie-cutter build still expects you to guess how that guy treats sustain and his priorities in a broolyou can't possibly know what's going on in the head of a guy rushing magic carpet in lane
>>576712169she doesn’t need a buff but a rework>remove dogshit mechanic of not being able to toggle ult>reduce burst damage on human form and remove burst healing of pressing 4>make ult an active to press with a cooldown>give back 35% resists on t1 and heal on t3then all the pro babies would stop crying about her, and she would be more fun to play
I think its retarded this game has headshots, requiring such aim to be effectiveIt should have been like TF2 were shooting people in the head doesn't do extra damage
>>576712884the same top 20 peak tier list maker? sweet, drop a link
>>576712884show shiv
>>576712987Just added ability order and calculator so you can see your stats, one day maybe I’ll get a real url https://tnauq.github.io/Deadlock-pipeline/
>>576697264this game has polarizing lane matchups even with 3 lanes, they would need to rework half the cast or drastically nerf the shit out of all the mobility heroes
>>576712903>>remove dogshit mechanic of not being able to toggle ultit's a character trait, they can't just remove that anymoreher ult should be a passive fixed to a day/night cycle or activate on a strict global timer instead of damage, that way enemy team can predict when she's going to be at an advantage in a fight and preparebuff her gun and rework 1 so normal human mode doesn't suck so much
>>576713125It’s different for eu and na, here is na shiv
>>576713147i wouldn't be surprised of statlocker or deadlock-api straight up yanks your shit if it gets popular enough
>>576688094you fucking suck bro don't bring that shit into ranked.
>>576713231victor used to get spirit resilience to mitigate self damageseven used to be still in ultimateapollo riposte has been changed multiple timesI don’t see why they don’t just remove this retarded mechanic. >b-b-but my loregay niggerbable should not affect gameplay
>>576712061well yeah, even if its gg why give up
>>576689346I win more than I lose on Haze and Paige.Billy and Drifter do seem to be top performers though.
>>576713390And eu, I don’t know what they imbued to gonna see now if I can pull it
>>576690740>dota>but not dota>and tranime>and pedophilia
>>576713405Statlocker already added a one trick leaderboard which I think was inspired by me, I don’t mind if they do it’s just a hobby for me
>>576713587she's an alco werewolf that can't control her life or transformations, being able to toggle ult on demand goes against thatyou can just throw her current design into the trash with that change and it wasn't the case with your other examples
>>576712903>remove dogshit mechanic of not being able to toggle ultThis is literally her identity, no. It's what her whole personality is built around>reduce burst damage on human form I've been clamouring for this, slam needs less power and her other spells need more>and remove burst healing of pressing 4No, she's huskar, she's meant to be fighting at low hp>make ult an active to press with a cooldownNo>give back 35% resists on t1 and heal on t3Yes, but wolf form should be harder to get into as a tradeoff
>>576713754Oops
>>576714140does this calc account for item synergies or just picks top percentile for each slot?
>>576712884the level function doesn't seem to work? t he only thing that does seem to work is clicking load which then makes it load the endgame build but it doesn't have one that progressively shows what to buy but maybe that's not intended i dunno
>>576709664you want to consume it after 10 minutes to help you complete an item to finish your power spike to go win a fight over an objective.
>>576708814Wraith and Haze are boring and overpowered, Venator is just balanced so he can't 1v11, and Vyper requires you to use cheats/macros to spam her sliding as much as possible without developing carpal tunnel.
>>576714383It does not explicitly account for synergies but they show up by proxy because the sample will build the synergies more frequently It is biased towards hybrids slightly as it tries to fill 4.8k spikes first, the outlier created for now seems to only be mo and krill, it will add alch fire even tho most in the sample don’t buy it. Personal bias but I prefer it like this because the first investments in a category give way more than your 6th in another
>>576712884Geist
>>576714663The level just adjusts your boons for the calculator so you see the correct ability/gun damage, it’s not a time slider. I don’t think a timelapse would work very well on an aggregate, that’s why it’s just postgame for now
>>576690740I posted it but I'm not interested in it since it stands out too much on top of not being flat enough. I try to make my roster skins fit the games aesthetic.
>>576712884Show horse
>>576714905EUhere you can see how the time is not really accounted for, it shows the cultist after the berserker which would not happen in a real game
>>576712903>reworkI've seen a lot of different ideas similar to this but here's mine>ult has double charge compared to now>ult can be manually cast from 50% charge or higher >ult is still forced at 100%>taking damage generates more charge >visual indicator for enemies when ult is above 50% charge (like some red or silver glow), more charge and it glows more>ult gives better stats and heal the more charge you have >at 90% and above it gives 40/40 resistance like it used to, at 50% it gives 10/10 resistance (granted by t1)>max heal is 40%, minimum is 10%>max bonus speed is 8 m/s, min is 2 (bonus from t2 is affected by charge)>duration doesn't change, you ult at low charge your stuck as a shitty melee creep>health added by ult is base health instead of bonus health >t3 heal on kill again, based on charge when ult was used
>>576715315Who is horse
>get called retarded for buying leech instead of vamp burst on a pure gun characterwhy? it's literally half of leech for the same t4 price
>>576715865?
>>576715865Vamp burst is also an active reload. Leech is kind of meh. Unless you're doing something like Gun Infernus it's hard to justify, and even then, the active reload portion of vamp burst is still insane.
>>576714768>haze opI don't know bro I geuss in the same way spectre is op in dota. She's decent fun if you enjoy the sneak bastard playstyle but it gets old fast.>>576715446>TB Geisthuh I should try it, other than that yeah looks like a normal build other than EE and TB. I'd go RR before Berserk as well and I've been going weakening headshot over kinetic lately for the stacking bullet shred with BRS.
>Pocket, Celeste, and Holliday on the enemy teamNo. That's cool. I love when the enemy team gets all the movement trannies.
>>576690740i know i shouldn't be surprised by this but there are way too many people here who are literal third world retarded nigger faggots who get overjoyed at 5 minute ai blender slop with no textures that looks like dogshit
>>576716085Tankbuster on gun Geist is still pretty good because bomb, yeah.
>>576715865Leech feels better on hybrid carries to me, a lot of the cost is in the spirit lifesteal that you may not benefit from on a pure m1 gun carry like Venator.
>>576715613Very neat, thanks calcfriend. Would appreciate a Yamato one also
>>576709664I either pop it on the first or second riftDepends on if the first rift is a guarantee or not>everyone on my team just died before the rift and I'm just splitpushing on the other sideKeep for second rift>entire enemy team decides to just write /kill in the console infront of our haze / drifter / wraith and donate a 1k bag each to themKeep for second rift>all 12 niggas in the lobby are on the riftI eat that shit and pray the buffs were enough.I buy it on Victor and Abrams, although you can get away with fighting with egg as victor if you have ult up sometimes because sometimes all you need is to just hit a good ult or make everyone leave the rift and give your team the 900 souls.
>>576716085>She's decent fun if you enjoy the sneak bastard playstyle but it gets old fastthat's not even how high ranked players use haze lmfao they play her as a bog standard m1 carry shitting out damage
Hello.I would like an invite to the game.https://steamcommunity.com/id/atroce/Thanks.
>>576715940>>576716201idk I don't think having (extra mind you) spirit power and leech on a gun carry is that big of a deal, it's literally not wasted stats because it's more than vamp burst gives on top of the gun stats being double vamp burst>>576715995active reload doesn't build into burst wdym
>>576716359TURN AWAY DO NOT ENTER LISTEN TO ME
>>576716165tumma
>>576716315>that's not even how high ranked players use haze lmfao they play her as a bog standard m1 carry shitting out damagemaybe because they hyper stomp the lane and get fed but her kits a pick character kit. Or at least was last time I played her, I do know she got changed a little but I don't if they touched her m1gger carry potential outside shitstomps.
>>576716418what the fuck are you talking about?go read what the items do. and go use the item in the sandbox right now.
>Takes 1-2 minutes to find ranked games>Takes 8-10 minutes to find standard gamesDamn standard really is dead
>>576716603I have read itvamp burst is leech but halved and no spirit statsleech is burst but double but with spirit stats
>>576716315because that's how she's marked in the system. she's equivalent to wraith in the matchmaker.
>>576716590she's both, you can literally build her as a generic m1 gun carry and still get free easy kills by running around as an invisible assassin which is what the pros do
>>576716418Vamp burst is better since it overflows the mag and heals more when you use the active. Leech is a statcheck item only worth it if you already have one of the actives and want more healing or if you are hybrid and can make constant use of both stats like Infernus or Geist.
>>576716418Vamp Burst gives you like 60% of your max ammo on activation, so it's like a pseudo-reload that can be triggered in advance without wasting the ammo. That alone makes it better on a strict gun m1 carry than Leech imo. If you're active-capped/don't like using actives, or are more of a frontliner than Leech might take the edge but Vamp Burst is probably better in 90% of cases.
>>576716771neat maybe I'll play her again since I dropped her since she was played as an ultbot.
>>576716245Here is eu
>>576716359sent
>duo abuse or don't playgreat game
>>576697841This guy is NA and Retarded but he is kinda right shiv can't do much on his own if the team doesn't have a another frontliner
unfortunate i guessshould have tried harder fucking bot teams on both sides unforutnately i guess having 2 tanks and 2 healers was better than 4 completely useless idiots
>>576718586The chances you don’t have 2 fronts is pretty high as it’s the least popular role
is early game supposed to be this boring? i have to turn my brain off and shoot bots for a long ass time because my character is buns and cant do anything
>>576718874Spam mokrill
>>576718874Depends on your heroIf you play Victor or Seven, expect to do fuck all in lane beyond trying to not chain feed.If you play something like Silver or Mirage, then yeah something is wrong if you're not dominating lane.
>>576718789I mean abrams , billy and mo is pretty busted rn so chances of getting them is pretty high it just comes down to who has them
>>576718874>is early game supposed to be this boring?first 10 minutes you hug your tower and try to snag kills while not dyingif you're bored that means your enemy has no brain>my character is buns and cant do anythingand you were playing as?
>barely any shiv player hits their 4.8k gun spike
Any good spirit billy builds?
>>576690740Tits too big, missed the entire point
>>576708334>Does dota require you to play a rhythm game to move at top speed?It took you one hour to come up with this cope?kwaboty
>>576719459bitch of the year?nta but what kinda zoomer-tier safe insult is that
https://youtu.be/2wasOfJlcUk?is=--bugEUB0Vrx3tCJ
bebop in my match exclaims it's his rank up game (to Oracle 5) and then proceeds to go 2/12 & we lose
>>576719694Newfag
>>576719345I think they use the ammo for movement
>>576711220retard larper
>>576720176you use m2 during the slide burst fire also enables you to constantly slide this way, you literally do not have to stop
>>576718581literally anyone who climbs with a duo basically didn't earn their rank. SOLO QUEUE WHEN?
holy shit the west coast servers are so fucking bad because of california streamershit
Any good spirit doorman builds?
>>576719167>>576719185im playing billy, i feel like i cant commit to any fight until i have a bunch of green itemsalso every character slightly tanky just rapes me to death so maybe i just need to play more to learn
Why do people complain about doormans doors? Just dispel them?
>>576720716doorman doesn't exist as a character until they stop balancing him around pro teams airdropping 6 people anywhere on the map.
>>576720634just say nigger and watch them chimp out for the entire laning phase and then report the stream to twitch
bets on next game?
do you think this game should strive for role queue or keep this more streamlined and constrained hero priority letting their algorithm force you into an archetype?good thing is you don't have as many troll picks, like sniper support, bad thing is it limits your choices and forces characters into specific roles, so you can't do things like flex invoker to support.
>>576720169I accept your concession
>>576720946>Role queuehell no, what we have is better.>draftwould be nice for PA+
>play well>lose>play badly>win>win lane>lose game>lose lane>win gameWhat's the fucking point? Might as well save myself the 30 minutes and just flip a coin.
>>576720716>>576719407just buy purple items nigga
Start buying mystic slow in doorman
>>576720881i can't be bothered breh this game is only fucking playable on the east coast
>>576720896You'll get seal team 6 on the enemy team to send your ass back to stone rank
>>576721243yeah fair. could always be worse. you could be joining lobbies and finding out 4 of your team mates are russian who will just run it down non stop for the entire match.
>>576720740>i feel like i cant commit to any fight until i have a bunch of green itemsyou have to learn to parry bait and boost gun damage a littlewhile billy works better at disrupting a fight than starting it, 1v1 should be easy at any stage
>eu sissys complaining about getting slav niggers on their teamCome back to me when you get a team full of actual niggers.
>>576720946Sniper support is not a troll pick but I digressI think maybe declaring your role without it limiting your choices could be good, like I could q as frontline but go yamato(she’s classified as assasin rn)
>>576721453sorry I don't live in california that doesn't happen here
>>576721000>no refutationI accept your sneedation
>>576721453New York niggers (ingame) are chill sorry your a westoid
>>576721467so the standard hero shooter role queue?
>>576720946there are generally just 2 roles that matter in team building - frontliner e.g. abrams and control e.g. lasheveryone else can do heal or damage and it wouldn't change a thing if their team lacks one of these
>>576721142>What's the fucking point?fun>Might as well save myself the 30 minutes and just flip a coin.If it's as fun as a deadlock match go ahead.
>>576721859I guess, I was thinking role q=role lock for some reasonI think overwatch had issues with q times doing this tho so maybe not a good idea
>>576722121every game with role queue gives you mega aids if you play damage. mmos, mobas, hero shooters, doesn't matter.it's a bad idea and what Deadlock has now is working, atleast better than the alternative when you consider that what they (the devs) want the most is as many games as possible to get data.
why are frontliner players so high IQ and handsome?
>>576722351>goes into the enemy jungle and feeds themself as sacrifice solo on repeat to the enemy carry>doesn't say a word all game while doing thisWTF WHY ISN'T MY TEAM KILLING PATRON BY NOW I GAVE THEM ALL THIS SPACE THIS IS BULLSHIT
>>576720370burst fire is a crutch, it's useful for players new to shiv but his default m2 can already be chained infinitely.shiv is one of the most slot starved characters in the game, 80% of his slots are greens just so he can function. Latest stam nerf forces him to buy resto immediately after lane. Gun spike isn't worth hitting unless you're going against graves/ginnis, in which case I get mystic shot and spirit rend maybeanyways he's been dogshit for a few weeks now and I've been having a lot more success on characters like Mina. Shiv takes 5x as much effort for 40% of the reward
>>576721142mobas are dogshit
>>576722334Yea you right, especially for the normie ranks it’s better to just make the decision for them and throw them in a game fasterI think draft would be good for eternus but there would be a disconnect where people would see the “meta draft” then seethe that there seeker matchmaker gave them something different
>>576722598why are you here, dogshit connoisseur
Goodnight /dlg/ :3
>>576722121your queues are already longer if you lock-in the most popular heroes, like wraith haze, and in every game carry/dps has the longest queue. ever played a mmo and spent forever waiting for tank/heals?
>>576722731Nope because I play tank, I get games instantly and also invites to the most exclusive parties with the coolest people
how do you not even get gun spike when your damage looks like this
>>576723095like i cant even fucking believe you wasted 12800 on revern and spirit burn for 2900 dmg
>>576715286The only acceptable use of skin mods
>>576722452>sacrifices themself heroically for the team repeatedlyyour welcome
>>576723095you should probably just always get opening rounds swift striker and sharp shooter on that bitch
>>576723298>0-15-2>enemy wraith is now 20k ahead of our carry>ur welcome n00bs
>>576720740Billy has a fairly weak lane compared to most other heroes and is vulnerable to poke so that makes senseYour biggest job on billy is just not feeding in the early game, after that you're set.
>>576723615those 25 deaths could have been youwe carry the world on our shoulders
>>576719720I NEED a goyle
>>576723668ivy has an even worse lane. you're literally just resigned to being a passive bitch in lane because your gun does no damage.
>vidicta no fly 321 gogogo use everything on her :DDDannoying
>>576724121your nades broyour stone form if they sneeze on you bro
Which character(s) do you hate so much that you can't even bring yourself to commend people who play them?>Infernus
>>576724159>vindicta has dispel magic, counterspell and indomitable>literally just not allowed interact with her all game
>>576723930Be a good goy and you might get a goylefriend
>>576724260Pocket and Infernus playersThey're always such whiny faggots
>>576724438pocket, infernus, lash, drifter, paradox (when she's strong), minas are always bad people
>>576724256160 damage for a 32 second cooldown on nades btw. other heroes do 200 damage on 9 second ccooldowns upfront. there's no way around it. kudzu is too weak baseline and scales too hard in the late game. adjust the power scaling. slightly reduce the cooldown. stoneform isn't actually good until T2 because it's a 40 second cooldown until then. basically feels like the most non-spell to ever exist and then the CD is super low all of a sudden. the most ass backwards character design imaginable. laning on her is straight misery if you have a retard as your duo. you don't have enough agency to carry anything. you have to just resign to being passive and losing the tower regardless.
>>576722556yeah there is no reason to play shiv at all every spirit burst or dot hero does his job better i should just play billy but his m2 movement is just too fun genuinely the only reason why i play this game
>>576722653hardstucks in low mmr will always seethe though no matter what.
>>576724547ivy has a 56% winrate and has been a top 5 winrate hero for 2 years
>>576724260yamato>YEAH SO LIKE I DO 500 DAMAGE AT 10 MINUTES, HAVE INFINITE GAP CLOSERS, DON'T NEED TO KNOW ANY MOVEMENT AND IF YOUR TEAM HAS ANY CC TO DEAL WITH ME MONKEYING INTO YOUR BACKLINE I WILL JUST BECOME INVULNERABLE TO ALL DEBUFFS/CC FOR THE NEXT 10 SECONDS. btw if you don't kill me you can't do mid literally ever, enjoy.
>>576724674seeker posting. boring.>I GET RAPED BY TESLA ON A SHIT GUNembarrassing
>>576724857>refuted by data, facts, and logic>duuuuuuuur you are seeker! tsk tsk
>>576724674she's fucking op and has tons of different builds. her win rate is deflated by unironic trannies that want to play her like a fucking overwatch support hero.
>>576724536idk lashes are chill in my games but you're right about the rest.>>576724674>>576724972>tfw somehow dogshit with IvyI don't get what the fuck I'm doing wrong but she is def super strong.
>>576724260Pocket, Celeste, Mina, and Silver9 times out of 10 the player is an annoying tranny coomer
>>576724674She can have a shitty lane presence and a good win rate. She scales very well.
>>576725253she does not have a bad lane presence period. maybe if she has a shit lane mate but that's everyone
>>576723180you dont buy spirit burn for damage, retard-kun
>>576724260Pocket Celeste Geist just let dbr cleanse ult debuffs again
>>576721271you winI lose
>>576724260i'd be happy if wraith was just removed from the game desu
Does the ranked system feel too grindy for you guys? I got put to Emissary 6 and it takes way too many games to grind up>>576725682This is straight up just a comp diff, you have 3 sidelaners that desperately need money and are useless early game (Victor, Seven, Graves) so of course its going to be aids.
>>576725832what the fuck do you people want, to rank up and down after every match?
>>576725910it's just gamerdads who think they should be allowed into the neet ranks without being neets
>>576726010what does yoshi have against the employed
>>576725832There is already eternus eunuchs, it’s too fast
when can I stop playing Wraith?basically, what rank does my team get competent enough that I don't have to play carry and they can shoot things that I stun for them?
>>576726217>There is already eternus eunuchsno, ascendant is the highest rank
rem was here
Lash's personality is kinda too modern but it's okay he's funny
I wish Venator had some actual spirit scaling so you could play him with Tormentor Pulse.
>>576704034Youll never get to ascendent so you don't have to worry about this
>>576727446lash is better is when he curses, he comes off as too modern streamer when he has all the haughtiness with the edge sanded off
why is every single game a stompits not even comeback mechanics, it's whoever has the most people that agree to group up and deathball wins while the team with the clueless afk farmers lose
>>576728201if you're not duo queuing then you might as well roll a die and consider it a loss on 1/2/3/4
>>576728201>team gets their shit together>other team doesn't >nooooooooo how is this possible?!think about it
>>576728201if you're not playing with a full stack then you're not actually competing or being competitive in any fashion whatsoever
>>576727018realistically, who would allow rem to write this on their body?
>>576728469don't reply to me if you don't even play the game retarded ape
>Playing against some guy with autoparry>Think he is some turd worlder>Go to his steam profile>some guy living in NJMakes sense NJ is basically a third world state. Also can I inject autoparry into the command prompt or is it a cheat I have to download or hell a mod? I'm actually tired of the amount of people I've played against with autoparry. While getting my team to report these people mid-game doesn't do shit.
>>576728396What part of the MM algorithm decides who gets the most people with their shit together?
>>576728553you asked the question
>>576727446>>576727648A lot of the characters are like that and I don't think they'll be changed to be more authentic at this point; Though I'd be glad if they did. I'm just happy we got classic noir with Geist and Abrams.
>>576728632you might as well blame God at that point
I have an ear infection, heroes for this feel?
>>576724260Infernus, Geist, HazeI've only started hating Geist because she's so miserable to lane against. Her spirit bomb or whatever the fuck its called has the explosion radius of fat man and will strip a chunk of your health while leaving you barely enough time to react. Valve and their habit of making frustrating characters to play against
>>576728632The numbers that say so from the data. Data which is often wrong and unable to account for nuance.
>>576728839Don't forget her ult gives a teamwide silence for ZERO FUCKING REASONShe's a braindead hero for utter fucking retards, I have more respect for even victor players because at least their lane sucks.
>>576728601It's just a mod, nothing to get upset about
>>576728839geist used to be much worse lol
>>576728839geist bomb is really tame nowadays. her drain is fucking aids though
>>576728505Celeste
>>576728794Victor.>>576728839I have 300 + games on Geist and I seethe that they want to force her to be a spirit frontliner. Goodluck it won't change instead they'll nerf the fun gun builds if shes nerfed at all. I'd gut the range on the nade by 1/3 and increase the base CD while in return bringing back the ability to stick people so it's a high reward burst if you're able to aim it and not something you mindlessly throw at the enemy all lane.
>>576728601there's no way valve won't silently flag your account if you use an autoparry script and surprise ban you/shadow ban you when game goes live.
soul bags over 500 should weigh you down and give you increased gravity that fucks up the vent trajectories
>>576724260Celeste and HollidayMovement cheats should be removed from the game
>>576727587the trap :^) qsr feels good (note: not actually is good) on his shotgun so maybe with the right spirit items you could do decent spirit m1 but three of your skills would be useless. I saw someone spam trap ven here and he was able to win with it in the old queue so I'm sure it could work in standard.
>>576729503Right, time to feed
>>576726927Ascendant is shitlow
>>576730269>!adddraftI genuinely hope they don't. This game is funnier when it's the far west.
>>576730215That's the beauty of vic, as long as you don't feed lane feeding generates yuge value mid and late.
>>576730376We have the perfect combination of draft and normal play honestlyThis game won't ever be ready for draft until there's like 100+ heroes at least.
>>576730269>rank eternus>performance phantom
how does one identify a good fight? usually i tend to go off the criteria of "are our waves healthy", "do we have an advantage in this fight/could me presence create an advantage (i.e. joining a 1v1 to make it a 2v1)", and "could this result in a pick to take an objective/rift/urn/mid with" but i wonder if i'm missing anything
Standard mode shouldn't have hero bans, ranked should have 4 bans (2 picked from each team)
I am about to kill myself oracle 6 is actually uncarriable with shiv i am getting so many retards that deal below 30k dmg with mina holliday or fucking wraith while i am absorbing 100k+ and dealing 50k+ damage how is this possible????
>>576730490waves equal or pushed in and enemy squishies are out of position and getting wrecked. or following up a pick, or defending your picked vindicta, etc
>>576730468I kinda agree, tournies may already do draft right now and for pubs the current setup is fine. We can get draft (for PA+/eternus) in a post release update easily after the roster is comparable to other mobas.
>>576730376When are they adding Hoodwink
>>576730635is this u >>576697841
>>576730635Just take a break from shiv, if he's really that bad there's no way he doesn't get a nerf reverted or a buff in the near future.
What if spirit rend also procced from melee hits instead of just headshots
>>576729503Among us
BUFF MELEE ALREADY HOLY SHIT
>>576731165spirit snatch already does that and spirit does not need to be stronger
>>576731465>buff the most op mechanic in the gamesure...?
>>576731034I didn't say Shiv was weak he is fine Oracle 6 is just a total coinflip the lobbies are actual hell most characters are so busted right now so it's insane to see people still throw with them
Of course /vg/ is dick riding the worst patch to date
>>576731506>Barely does any damage>Can be countered without any items
I wanna play the game.Please gib game.Fren code: 81313027
>>576731497Its a buff to melee, not spirit
>>576731651TOTALSMURF NIGGERDEATHBLESS YOSHI
>>576724260Holliday.Fucking clown character.>Oh my sister is dead and I'm hunting her killer but also my entire kit is looney tunes bullshitThat and the people that play her are complete faggots.Throw in the current meta niggers as well
>>576731651yoshi pays them to praise the rift too
>>576732054i like the rift doe
>>576732097how much are you getting give me some damn it
>>576731651My only problem with Rift is that it will spawn after enemy team gets midboss.
>>576732218I get paid in forum views
>>576731651no one is dick riding the march update thoughbeit
>>576732447meta flipping patches take a few months to work out, I think we're in a good spot
>>576732624>hero>name
>>576732718>all green ivy>comes to /dlg/ to whine about gun nerfs
For me, it's melee Ivy
i don't care what your ivy has as long as you bought echo shard
>>576732879>Cancel with Fleetfoot>2 free heavies>Cancel with Stone form >2 free heavies >Get called slurs in chatAll in a day's work
my biggest gripe with the march update is dynamo's QE losing the gun buffs bringing the game further away from it's shooter identity I liked being a support with a real gun goddamnit
>>576733020
>>576732243as opposed to old urn which didn't do that
>>576733147big hat is still alive?
>45 wins in casual to play rankedWhy would you do this?
>>576733147I mean didn't they have to? The resist shred is pretty potent on his 1 and they changed the identity to dispelling debuffs initially but that shit was absolute cancer so they had to tone that down.>>576733247big hat is unironically selling onlyfans pictures of his asshole
>>576733297>onlyfans pictures of assholesaverage dynamo player
>>576733297>big hat is unironically selling onlyfans pictures of his assholeVile but it's a living I suppose.
time to play infernus
Your Drifter for a 39 minute game, sir.
>>576733297I liked having a reason to use it proactively instead of reactively. Now it just remains unpushed until a big ability from the enemy comes out.
>>576733556This is nothing. Wake me up when somebody passes 20+ deaths
>>576733525Porn Chopper fresh from a burn ward?
Whats stopping me from never using flask/cage on warden, buy witchmail for Willpower, and get a free 700hp barrier every 3 seconds
>>576733583which is op as shit btw lets be clear. like people complain about ivy getting to do that to herself and yours can dodge multiple ults for an entire team
>>576730635Oracle games in general are aids right now. It's actually crazy but ranked mode won't be enjoyable until mid August most likely as all the kids will have gone back to school by then.
>>576733556>retarded drifter blyat on my team feeds his ass off in lane>we lose tower relatively early>leave to go roam with hex >look at the map at 11m>he went to go jungle while a wraith is actively pushing the wave in>tell him wraiths pushing>no response>lose walker at 11mthey really aren't human are they
>>576733556green only makes you look like a genius when it works but a retard when it doesnt
>>576729916I really need to dump some clips of these spastic movement trannies playing her. Even Venator ult is impossible to hit consistently because of how much fucking control bounce pad gives
>>576733759bro this is a valve game I really doubt there's enough kids for them to be the problem.
>>576733525Time to cheat you mean
>>576733759>bro the MM just needs to calibrate bro just a couple more weeks bro
>>576733525>cheat modshope you lose
>>576733648well, here's your frontline 1 hour into the game
>>576733902on one hand, he should've caught wave and i'm assuming you're playing a hero that wants to roam for ganks after laneon the other did you honestly expect a feeding drifter to know the bottom barrel basics of wave management
>>576733525Pyrotrannies belong on /tf2t/ fyi
>>576734258yeah I was playing support ivy>did you honestly expectI try to have low standards and even those are not met. I'm impressed every day.
>>576734020>>576734084The ranked season ends Oct.8, it's only been 8 days since the update. It'll be awhile before all the retards derank or uninstall, and all the duo queue abusers rank up.
>>576733730the range should scale depending on how many teammates you have, so it's a decent movement option alone and you can maybe save one person through a wall but teamfights can only blink in place
>>576734437the alt cast should have absolutely no movement and not be usable through walls. actually fucking tired of watching people just blip through terrain because some faggot holds 2 every 10 seconds.
>>576734204KP looks fine, but the cyrillic makes me think he kept repeatedly forcing bad fights.
>>576725682wtf was that seven doing all game???
What's the point of having to unlock the characters for ranked in the most casual mode?
>>576734574the next highest deaths in the entire game was 14dude literally just ran down on cooldown
>>576733284To make idiots like you self report here
>>576734709>to play ranked I have to...PLAY THE GAME????yes
>>576734712what was this rank? could unironicly be winnable if bricklow and everyone goes in with him when he eats all the cds. Asuming it wasn't just rage running in solo.
>>576724260wraith and niggernusyeah just press m1 for billion damage and then press 2 to fuck off
>>576734709>First time Victor and Sinclair in rankedThank god it's not allowed
>hyperbeam apollo all the way at the end of my beam>riposte>he flies nearly 60 meters to stun meok
>unironically going to approach 8 months of staleness with no new content
>>576735080What you mean bro vic's easy bro *dies 10 times inlane pre 10mins*
>>576735242We'll get the item + content update next month at the latestMy bet is: Item update late august, content update mid sept.
>>576735242that's not true! we've had:>grit>indomitable >rift>new silver gun textures>funny chalkboard drawingsand uhh
>>576735479You forgot the EGG
>>576733284>yes, I play ranked matches even though I have never played the game before today.
>>576735242its funny that the "yoshi tracker" reset the days without major content update after the matchmaking update lmfao it literally added NOTHING
>>576733707Fortunately for you and everybody else you now have Standard to try out things like that.
>>576735381it’s already augustthese devs are the laziest niggeroids to operate a game in “early developed/access” where new things are supposed to be tested>>576735479>>576735562>these are what came out of 7 monthsgrim
>>576735381that's the schedule I'm hoping for and it would be great for retention if it's true but I thought June was the latest possible month for the major update and that came and went.
>>576733707Nothing, you just won't deal any damage
>>576735793>>576734923We had fucking years to play as different heroes, you retards, plus that's what the fucking ranks are for, having to unlock your heroes in the "I don't give a shit mode" is fucking hell
>>576736036I mean every update gets bigger and bigger in scopeI don't blame you for hating it. I don't want the PvE shit it sounds gay, give me the new heroes ICEFRAUD
>>576736107so how come I have to play with you playing vindicta for the first time bro
>>576735479>gritalways amazes me that there's people who just LOVE brooling in lane and making really aggressive plays and then they just aren't fucked buying 800 grit
>>576736036grave, even
>>576735823Yoshi ate the content update. Now we have to wait another 8 months.
>>576736107Sorry about your smurf broheim, shouldn't your main account have every hero you like unlocked already?
>There's literally only ONE person in Eternus right nowLOL dead game
>>576736286Just don't be a shitter and carry, perhaps? Plus I get sent to the brick dimension and you to Eternus since you are so good?
>>576736623That person? Silver main.
>>576736604>complain about a time wasting feature that serves no purpose>"SMUUUUUUUUUUUURF!!!!"Are you retarded?
>>576733284you still have training wheels to stop you deranking too fastreal ranked doesn't start till eternus
>>576736957Real ranked just doesn't start, period.
>>576736861You had a year, weren't you playing the game? Why so offended?
How do I stop ending up being "lane bitch", having to keep stopping the pushes on the far left or right lane and not being able to enter teamfights? If I leave, then they get the walker so I feel stuck in this situation and I'd rather be teamfighting since thats more fun than babysitting a walker.
>>576736861>serves no purposeif it keeps you seething this much, it serves the purpose of making me laugh
>>576736660>j-j-j-just be a carry bro...
>>576737104> Why so offended?Because Im forced to waste 80+ hours to unlock 3 characters in a game that's on Beta, sarrrrr
>>576736861Sounds like something a smurf would say. 60 wins is not that many. If you don't already meet the ranked requirements you are probably bricklow anyway and could use the practice.
>>576736861how have you not won fifeteen times on all the characters you would want to play in ranked?
For once I do hope yoshi ignores these monkeys crying about how they cant play ranked when they didn't play before
>>576737162That's the funny thing, you don't. If you weren't being lane janny those walkers would've fallen or taken lots of damage. Looking at lane macro is the best way to tell you if the game you're in is eomm. If you never have to lane janny you're in a forced win. If you have to lane janny all the time basically know you lost.
YAMATO KELVIN LANE WOW I WONDER IF I WILL WIN THIS!
Who's pet is wraith seriously why does she never get nerfed why can she do 1k damage before 10 minutes with minimal effort why can she teleport half way across the map to cc you into her team
>laning with graves>having a somewhat ok lane>still end up losing lane>graves admits they aren't that skilled with graves>that's fine, I start to give them advice to start using their ult almost always off cooldown since its a short cooldown and gets even shorter with items>viscous tells me to shut the fuck up followed by victor and then sheepishly by the graves>asks me why i'm trying so hard in standard>tell them I need wins to play ranked with Ivy>get told to shut the fuck up yet again>decide to mute the whole team and AFK farm for 15-20 minutes>ignore own walkers and team fights, only camps and barely lane>ironically based on what my opponents are saying, my team is bitching that im not trying to win>wtf?>decide fine, I'll come in and help>rape enemy team>take last two walkers>win game>get MVPNiggers really should just shut their fucking mouths.First they bitch that I want to win the game, then they bitch when I stop trying.What is this nigger mentality?
>>576737394Dude, how else is Yoshi going to get his data to balance the game? You're not going to force this man to actually think with his high six figure salary are you? That is just messed up man, everyone treats game devs like shit. Let Yoshi make a good game with all the data he is gathering!
>>576737394>80+ hours>it takes anon roughly 54+ games per character to collect 15 winsgrim
>>576737580nooooooooooooo I wanna play vindicta for the first time in ranked! you are hitler!
>>576737230You have no idea Im so fucking assblasted, this is the most retarded decision I've seen in quite a while>>576737389>...Just admit you are a shitter then
>>576737758i'm not showing you my asshole, nice try dynamo player
>>576737162>>576737582sorry bros you have to make space for your 2-15 drifter to feed another kill deep in the enemy jungle. he's getting STACKS. he'll be able to fight that 17-2 wraith when he has STACKS. just two more STACKS and he'll show them all.
I'm a huge faggot who should I play
>>576737394You shouldn't be bringing characters you've never won with into ranked.
>>576737742Every match lasts between 30 to 45 minutes, plus loading screens, plus leavers, plus you can't lock in who you playing as you need to pick 3 characters, plus you play those matches in the "DUDE WEED LMAO" que, plus legit defeats, it adds up
>>576737162>play roamer>forced to become supreme lane jannie and clear all the fucking waves>can't roam>end up most souls>lose because your carry never got fat
>>576737690it's just moba community shit. the niggers defend niggers. there could be a 0-7 hopeless retard lane partner you're having to deal with. you go roam and attempt to just get a push in on another lane. and they will UNIRONICALLY shift the blame to you. I just had it happen.
I'm using this vindicta build but I don't know how to bring it to the end game. I feel like the moment I start swapping low cost items to more expensive ones I'm actually doing less damage. Is that how it goes?
>>576737162>need help on yellow!I also have this problem and that's my best answer so far.
>>576738076Give me all the farm, I have a game to lose.
>>576738395Being forced to side lane as silver is so fucking miserable since you can't do any objective damage at all
>>576737986Dynamo apparently.
>>576737162Tell your carries to get itIf they refuse just accept that you're the carry even if you're playing Viscous
They need to rework some heroes so the game doesnt feel like 2018 overwatch seriously dynamo wins entire games not by skill or anything by pressing....4 wow dood amazing
>>576737690
>Ranked only allows duos>Never get flamed for random bs when everyone else was doing worse anymorehmm, curious.
>>576738151Ive had my duo buddy start throwing because he's a sperg and my teammates blamed me and not him.
>>576738575MANY CASES
when are they gutting ivi yamato dynamo kelvin wraith mcginnis
>>576738151>lose lane with retarded teammate>team blames me>go on multi kill and we crush them>nothingI'm so tired of these cunts
>>576738151I had an infernus sperg out about me not calling missing on our lane oponents when I was hunting one of them down while they had sub one HPbar stub and their lane oponent noticed and came to help them. Dud than proceeds to get caught their side of the map solo all game ending with fifeteen deaths. At least it was standard but these are the guys that unironicly "tryhard" and still lose in standard.
>HOW A RANK 1 ETERNUS -CHARACTER- CARRIES LOBBIES>first 10 mins is them dying over and overis this apart of the plan
>2 wins to get backalright, will I get the promotion this time?
Holliday 100% uses "nigger" in a casual manner and makes everyone around her freak out but she doesnt understand why
>>576738575I HATE HERI HATE IVYI HATE HER SO MUCH>>576739091>feed>enemy starts to not take you seriously>rape them when they let their guarddown>never die a single time afterwards>stats make you look average so stat niggers think you're 'just okay' when they use their cheat appsall part of the plan
>>576738575She gets what she wants
>>576739179The feds are currently queuing up to be your 0-17 yamato
>>576739187it's the 1950's and most heroes are adults so I'd except frequent use of niggerdrifter especially since he's "ancient" and from the south
I think silver might be op
>>576739449>82 minute gamePOST YOUR FUCKING MATCH ID I NEED TO SEE YOUR BRICKLOW DOGSHIT
>>576739505that shit was posted in a previous thread nigga silver sucks he got lucky
>>576739505I posted it in the other thread go look for it lil doggy
>>576739449Based Jane posting her diary. Keep on slorkin
>>576739449>almost an hour and half gamedear god how garbage are you?
>>576739187>>576739328If any of them don't use it it's usually because they'd see it as uncouth ie geist. Dynamo is only one I'd say who may be against it that isn't a target of the slur itself. Also Infernuses life must be a living hell since he's Ixian and Negroe rolled into one.
eyyy ABRUMS...imma sey deh ENN werd and rile dem up ehehe
>>576739449>82 minutes
>>576739706Nixxer
the worst things drifter can do >say the n word>misgender pocket
>>576739793IM NOT A CROOK
>>576738997>be ivy support>have rough laning phase because cooldowns are long and gun sucks and nothing really does any significant amount of damage yet>get duo'd up with a retard>basically have no agency to win the lane now>he keeps diving towers and expecting me to just shit out 700 damage with monster rounds>do 150 damage instead>get flamed for it>mute and focus on the game>hit 20-25m power spikes>start having strong presence and set people up for picks>saving people with lift and turning fights>end the game 5-2-40>0 commends>0 acknowledgementIt's like they just want to be spiteful cunts.
>>576739449>82 minute Bricklow K I N O
DRIFTER. LONG HAVE YOU BEEN STOPPED FROM SAYING THE N WORD. BUT NO MORESUMMON ME, AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS
THE UPDATE THAT WILL FIX EVERYTH... oh wait, this isn't a Blizzard game!
>>576739864How can I trust a patron who claims they can let me say the N word when they themselves cant drop a hard R?
>>576740036He too is bound by the laws of Jew York, but if you summon him, that will all change
>Try to sweat and win the game>Lose>Stop giving a fuck, never listen to your team and treat this game as jungle/lane farming sim>WinFunny how that worksGonna make my team work for me from now on
>>576739449>using standard matches to inflate your winsnice cheats
any workarounds for playing silver rn? her ult feels awful
>>576740084paige is fucking ugly and no amount of off-model fanart will change that
>>576737683It's like Dota, you just have to put up with some heroes being the dev's favorites and not getting nerfed for months on end.Feels like there's a bunch of dev favorites right now that are insanely overtuned but they refused to do anything about it.
what does itani lo sahn mean in ixian
>>576740203I think you need to avoid buying stamina mastery and just get resto locketIt fucking sucks but the item is way too good right now and its the only way you aren't instant dying.
>>576740376i am without equal or something it says on the wiki
>>576740236Like Silver
>>576740212>no fio germiIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>576739864INFERNUS. FOR TOO LONG HAVE YOU SUFFERED IN THE SCORCHING HEAT OF THE PLANTATION SUN. SUMMON THE HIDDEN KING, AND WE WILL SHOW YOUR RIVALS WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO BURN.
>>576740236Thoughts on Mina? Statistically balanced but playing her she still feels too strong. Mostly rake and her absurd spirit burst.
>8 minutes>wraith hits me with 1 (one) card>nearly 300+ damageonly good late game btw
>>576740438but enough about billy
>>576740084I want to dump tonnes upon tonnes of my virile foul-smelling toxic piss-colored semen inside Paige until I pass out from a testicular aneurysm
>>576739864Drifter doesn't even care about winning so I could see him wishing for dumb shit like this
Lose 8 games in a rowGet carried to a win by some guy that has 30 kills whilst everyone else in the game has like 3I hate this fucking game, never feels like i do anything to effect the outcome
>>576740497I don't think mina even is a dev pet favorite, she just has a ton of ecelebs and whiny vocal waifufags on her
>>576740572ok Vyper
>>576738186That can happen yes, especially with gun items the t3 are often better dps than the t4
>>576740236I dont know how Yoshi expects us to deal with McGinnis putting 6 gorillion turrets in the midboss pit. Graves too. Theres nothing you can do to contest objectives with these types of heroes around.
>>576740658Rake is pretty much her only damage.If you fight her in any extended trade she loses out biggly. She's a harasser/skirmisher.
>>576740497Her Rake and raw spirit burst are strong but she's an assassin so she just gets to do what she wants with no consequence apparently. Why they buffed her 2 to allow for THREE get-out-of-jail-free escapes I have no idea.In truth she's fragile as fuck so if you can get her you can kill her easily, slowing hex fucks her up more than any other assassin.
>>576705905Basically Pangolier's Ult, without the impact.I won a game without upgrading it once.
>>576740927>>576705905nerfed because it made streamers cry
>>576740407interesting, will try it out
>>576740765How is that any different than trying to contest Dynamo or Lash or any other teamfight ult?
>>576740557>minute 2>Apollo hits me with ONE 3>200 damage>he has two more of them>they also hit around corners>and give him an escape, on top of his OTHER two escapesBut yeah Wraith has been OP for weeks now it feels, fucker gets the best of both gun and spirt metas and can just do a billion damage with any competent build.
>>576740658I just meant generally, I don't think she's a pet hero of the devs just popular so she gets away with more than say holiday (though not sure if holiday is even a good example anymore).>>576740839LB does insane damage unless they all have spellbreaker+spirit res or are unlucky enough to get caught out with no cover when she has ult and 20+ stacks.
why does the game need to build shader cache every fucking time you start it
>>576739449People will be paying hundreds in 10 years for accounts like this
>>576741139Welcome to modern gaming.
>>576741038Difference is Apollo sucks dick and balls after 15 unlike Wraith who only gets stronger>>576741076Love Bites damage is okay but it's only really good when combined with Rake execute. Like building up 80% Love Bites then raking.>>576741139It's every time there's an update (every day)
>>576741006You have counter items like unstoppable or knockdown. Its completely different. Theres no item to delete all the turrets or negate the damage.
>>576740212Stop being a fag you homo
>>576741076Holiday is like any pick hero in that she's feast-or-famine. If she gets a few kills she's a terror, if she gets nothing then she has like no impact.Barrels need to be adjusted though, she should not get 5 nuclear bombs at a time that can come out with that frequency/distance.
>get hooked>get uppercut>get hooked againwhy is this still a thing. free echo shard basically.
>>576741283Bro your monster damage?
>>576741267Yeah fair shes no hardcarry and even if "good" at her I'd rather play Geist in ranked since shes more consistant and can farm her way out of a bad game whereas with Mina you either roam and pray to pick up a kill or turn into a silence bot.
>>576708334RTS died, because it was impossible to monetize.Everything has to be live service now. And how do you wanna drain the RTS crowd? By releasing unbalanced exclusive units? By giving them skins that fucks with readability? Profiles?AoE solved it by constantly releasing DLCs, but that shit requires a lot of genuine work.People don't wanna work, they want money. They wanna fish a whale and be set for life.
>>576741139>>576741246>>576741267it's cause you have you have your shit set to vulkan. it's terrible for that.
>>576741751I mean it's a 2-3 second stutter on start-up. Not exactly a big deal
>>576741751>Trying to use anything other than dx11Why new graphics API always shit?
>>576741643RTS died because the players would rather play dota/lol. I'm also not sure how RTS could not be reduced to rote APM from a design perspective
>>576740989Valve shouldn't do this.Doing this ruined TF2.
are the inhouses still happening? I played a lot before sinclair/vyper/holiday etc came out but thats about the time I stopped playing
LASHFOR YEARS BEBOP HAS ELUDED YOU. CLANKER, ROBOT, AUTOMATON. IT ALL BOUNCES OFF HIM - FOR ONE WORD YET ELUDES YOU.SUMMON ME, LASH, AND CALL BEBOP A NIGGER
>>576742189Whatever you say.RTS didn't die a natural death. It was assassinated.People were so desperate they gave Pixelated RTS a chance.What do you call it, when there is huge demand, but no one wants to supply.
>>576742378Is Bebop like a black bong because his creator is an old black woman
>>576742598assassinated by whomstvehigh level gameplay is going into training mode and grinding rote APM. sorry, that's not fun. RTS got big when the competitive scene was just casual play with randoms on bnet
>Go on a 8 game loss streak>only need to win 4 games to rank back upThis new system is so forgiving. They need to remove protection shield it's way too toxic of a mechanic. People can troll two free games and not have to face consequences.
>>576742598RTS died because the most enjoyable part of it was custom maps which turned into different games on their own while devs chased esports to death.
>alleged "pro" players>they are all just duo queue abusing This is who valve decides to balance around btw.
New hero needs to be a spellcaster who uses power words. And the ultimate is Power Word: Nigger
New hero needs to be pure melee, where his M1 and M2 buttons are melee attacks
hero idea: beastmaster from dota just port him over. dog is auto melee attacker that follows him, bird is skybox ward they can shoot down unaffected by weapon falloff like miku turrets, his axes and scream would fit in just fine
Can we get an isekai protagonist as a new character?
>>576743595AND he has knuckle dusters with the letter NIG GER and the ult is a double fisting that leaves the word NIGGER marked in the enemy character model
>>576743750Isnt that just Apollo?
>>576742949first devs chased WoWthen LoLthen Overwatchforgetting that until the dev cycle is finished, the trends have moved
>>576743750>>576743868Actually, correct that. Rem.
>>576742042Mine is like a minute...
>>576737162play a hero that can both teamfight and be lane bitchi like billy
>>576743595this but you can parry him
>>576741751no i dont
When are they adding a component item for witchmail?
>>576744610we don't have any witches in the game yet
>my haze teammate goes 0-7 in lane>i somehow salvage 4 solo kills out of the lane>does nothing all game>i proceed to carry his trash ass anywaymatchmaking is flawed this retard should lose mmr
how is it possible for haze to do 1500 damage in 9 minutes with a mo in the lane
>>576744610>can we please buff this overpowered itemnext you'll ask for an ethereal shift component item
why the fuck do you oceanic niggers come to EU server with your bug man inflated MMR playing on 300 ping ruining games on m1 characters. like are you mentally ill or something?
>>576745141who else are they gonna play with? indonesians?
>>576745048lmao i almost thought this was my haze >>576744902
>>576744610>yoshi:there are alot of tier 4 items we want people to start building more but they don't >huh? Actually make component items so its not trolling 99% of the time to build them? Naaahh
Okay 15W 4L on Graves getting her ranked readyIf you're good it should be no problem getting 15W, drink some concrete and harden the fuck up, pussies.
character name: remgender identity: unknownstatus: rapee
>>576745275there need to be more combined items like dota
why do walkers sometimes just randomly say fuck you and stomp twice in a row
>>576745743Fuck you
>>576745743Resets on parry
Why is it when I always get a Wraith or Victor on my team they're somehow the worst players in the game. But when I face an victor or wraith they're GIGA NIGGER 2000 dicking everyone down.
>Geist just plays passively and farms for 15 minutes >its now impossible to beat her in a 1v1
>>576745962many such cases
>>576745889Thats every characterCharacter on their team: UngaCharacter on your team: Bunga
>>57674588999% of people are building victor wrong that's whyIf you build gun you are playing him wrongIf you aren't 1 maxxing you are playing him wrongIf you aren't building tempo you are playing him wrong.
>>576705965This ayy lmao has good ideas.
What elo does split pushing mirage stop working?
>>576745889first moba?
>>576746264never, his ult is fundamentally OP as fuck
magical girl hero when?
>>576746125Appears to be that way.>>576746176Our victor was building gun but he couldn't aim>>576746268No, I played league when you could solo carry a game because you were simply better. This game it's a lot harder to solo carry there are too many counter items that can shut you down. If you're team isn't smart enough to peel for you will lose.
>>576746410Celeste
>>576746546she's a unicorn doe
>>576746604thats hiding a secret...
>>576746542your*
>>576746303crazy they let him do that just pop back and forth on side lanes every fifty seconds
>>576747059It should bring him to one hp when he does that
Wagies getting off workIts not safe to queue is it?
>>576730487that's because everyone in phantom or ascendant right now are the high eternus playersas in *actual* high eternus niggers with 8k hours that quit their job to make deadlock videos.
laning against viscous is the least enjoyable thing in this game holy shit
>>576747920SPLAAATTEERR
>>576747240idk why the fuck is it taking more than a minute too queue standard in burger land
So still no Wraith nerfs huh
>>576747920>basically fucking ungankable between cube punches and ball>he gets to 200 damage nuke every 9 seconds and give his mate ethereal shift basically every waveEPIC!
why are people sleeping on melee Paige
>>576747920some lanes are just hell
>>576747920I'm not sure if Viscous or Rem is the worse support to be up against>One of them makes his lane partner invincible for a few seconds, the other one has a percentage heal that can take someone from being near dead to having a few hundred HP, oh yeah and Rem's healing move makes HIM invincible
vindicta have mercy...
Answer truthfully: do you guys actually have fun playing deadlock, or do you just like winning?
>>576749015rem is the worst if your lanemate is allergic to using their gun in lane, viscous entirely depends on the viscous
>>576749143I have fun... when I'm winning
headed to yellow!
>>576749440>4 people are ganking one enemy in the jungle while a creeper wave kills a walkerah so this is just the standard deadlock match got it
>>576749440the power of the lane jannie
>>576749440thought this was my current game for a second
>>576749143the game itself is fun, the matches all being onesided stomps because of EOMM isn't fun
Holliday's gun is obnoxiously loud
if all mcniggus players were killed tomorrow what part of deadlock would suffer
>>576750376That and everything else she doesHERE COMES A BARREL
>>576750468The trans community
I'm so pornsick whenever Holliday says "bounce pad down." This image pops in my head. It's the main reason I have her banned.
>>576750468this but also mirage pocket nigfernus victor and kelvin
>>576750612>Trannies>Playing the butch lesbo characterdon't think so
you just have to play a hyper carry every game or you're playing coinflip simulator this game fucking sucksssss
holliday makes me think of a single mother of 2 children love interest in a movie with a yellow filter taking place in the 90's or early 00's also she's frequently sweaty and wears plaid shirts
>>576748852because it's not good
>>576747920>Have spiritbreaker + spirit res>get hit by 1(one) hit of splatter>take 800 damagefuck this green nigger hero
>>576751893cute. i never thought about this pairing, do they have any specific lines?
>>576751893abrams broke that buck
>try and get some mirage wins>enemy is billy, venator, ssss+ilver, mcginnis, sinclair, vindictaokay cool gg
>>576751893Is that infernus or the artists self insert
>peel and make space for your carry to farm all game>they can't aim and do nothing anyways
it's 5pm on a friday why the fuck is it taking over five minutes to find a standard match
>>576752304>they can't aim and do nothing anywaysIm in this photo and I dont like it
>>576752095there are a few
>>576749078and another one
https://files.catbox.moe/heln4k.jpg
>>576752687retarded she wouldn't be fat at all she's a government agent/assassin
https://files.catbox.moe/h1eqvw.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/00fsjx.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/348f9l.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/6jlvgt.jpg
>>576752687Rem gets to fuck that!?
>>576752687gayHaze's default figure is perfect already
>>576752872Don't post for a while, ok?
>>576752287fern, artist is japanese fujo westaboo
>>576728781it would be nice if some old slang was here and there like square or ginchy
>>576752095abrams is canonically fucking geist on the dl
>Rising Ram % damage is max health not current healthWHAT
>>576753875Its balanced now they only nerfed it by 1%!
>>576754018>>576754018>>576754018 bread
id play so much fucking paradox if she didnt have the dumb lava lamp headalso new thread needed
>>576752063That's the Tankbuster at work baby
