character design edition>Demo DaysNOW: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>580105563>Sister Thread>>>/bant/24917433
fuck /agdg/. fuck you all.
>>580220307progress anchor
Feels good to animate 3D models.
>>580220307>>580220530forgot the image teehee
gonna repost this because there was some interesting answers last thread but it was at the very endwhat does /agdg/ do when you're struggling with a creative rut/game dev block? when you're in between projects and don't seem to have any ideas or get to blender and are stuck staring at the default cube?
Game Reviews:>Marotte - Legend of Pong Long Fighter Sunny'NaBetter than the last time I played it. I had no clue what I was doing last time and eventually just gave up on it. I had a better idea this time though I think the tutorial could still use more work, at times I just instead of playing the intended way threw the dice at my opponent to run down their HP. Story was interesting and had me hyped to play more as I went along...and then "Thanks for playing the demo" AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! But yeah I need more explanation of the dice system, much better than before but a bit more can be cleared up (idk what, I probably had something in mind but forgot by the time I wrote this).>Pipkin's QuestI loved it. I beat the demo. Music is very nice, mechanics are nice. Nothing much else to say, I like the artstyle btw but definitely add some art to the exterior walls.
it's so over.
>>580218840I feed all my ideas to a chat bot, tell it to ask me questions about my game that it doesn't understand (to help clarify my ideas clearly to it,) and ask the clanker to organize it in a smart way to implement it so I don't end up going about it in a bad way.Sometimes I go off the game plan when I'm bored but I mostly stick to it.
>>580220901stop moaning
>>580220901I cry, a lot, and give up gamedev for months. Then I realize this is the only thing I actually like to do and try again.
nobody played my demo and that's ok
>>580223034when did you submit? best chances at getting your game played is if you submit at the beginning of demo day and not the endI try to play a bunch of games but I can't play em all and I'm burnt out by the second day
>>580223245DECREASE THE SUBMISSION TIME
Eric and his steel pan band will perform live 10 minutes from now! Take a break, grab a snack and drink and let's enjoy it together!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze4gTqNZTSM
>>580223034The play in browser meta is real
>>580223853>it's real
>>580221321I liked both these games.
>>580223034probably not playing demo days unless a specific interesting game's link is posted directly, or we separate from the 'cord and whodevs
>>580224512Eric s-stop! You're mogging me too hard! What CAN'T he do?! Oh god, I'll never be him. I'm nothing. I can't even finish a game let alone play in a steel pan band. What the FUCK
>>580223853look at him go
could this possibly be what gamers want?
>>580225480kanna...
I don't have a dream game and I don't really need money because I have a well paying job but I want to make some sort of interesting game that makes people think I'm intelligent and cool so I will become socially accepted and desired but I keep trying to find the perfect idea for this and no idea seems good enough to satisfy me. What should I do?
Is it actually possible to make a game so dogshit that you don't make at least $100 to cover your steam fee? Has anyone actually done it? Even the worst games must get a few sales, right?
>>580225832some sort of autism/spreadsheet sim game with high skill ceiling
>>580226062I can do it
>>580219912>it's from feeling like I'm going to remember the association from the PTSD I had when writing with that part of the game or program forever, so I need to rewriteIt's the exact same thing with me. Sometimes it's not active and I can just type a lot of code, other times I'm stuck writing the variable name many times over. I HATE being like this.
>>580221321I'm happy you enjoyed the story. I have quite a bit more written, but I ran out of time to create the backgrounds and additional character portraits needed for it. Introducing Red Maple as the first boss felt like the best place to end the tutorial/prologue for now.I also agree that the tutorial needs more work when it comes to teaching the rules of Marotte. The two random encounters before Mame's base were originally meant to help teach those mechanics, but I couldn't give them enough polish in time, so I converted them into regular random encounters instead.The next update will be for /agdg/ Demo Day 71. I plan to have the dice customization system fully working by then. Players will be able to place stickers on individual dice faces, and completing a scoring row with five matching stickers will trigger an additional effect, such as poison, silence, healing, MP recovery, turning the enemy undead, and more. This should give players more reason to pursue scoring rows instead of simply throwing dice at the enemy.I also want to improve the 3D dice board with borders and obstacles based on the terrain you're fighting on. That should make manual rolling more meaningful than just watching your opponent's tits jiggle or knocking their held dice off the board.Lastly, the overworld will open up so you can explore the road to Red Maple's labor camp. Story events, shops, and unique encounters will be scattered around the map. Maybe even a silent, mysterious woman with a very powerful whip.I sincerely appreciate the feedback, and I'll do my utmost to make your Demo Day 71 playthrough a more fun and rewarding experience.
he's so lockd in
>character design editionYou should learn what gamers want.
>>580227586Why does it look like someone slapped her stomach?
>>580227613Idol fans have no chill.
oh no, eric did the salute on stage
>>580226031Slopping requires that you be beholden to real metrics like revenue and time to ship, whereas artcoping grants you ample opportunity to rationalize away your failures.
>>580227613its the lolicon shading
"my heart goes out to all white gamedevs"
>>580226062I'd be amazed if I made the steam fee back
is itch down?
>>580226062The worst selling game I made sold 2 copies on release. Mainly since it was multi-player only in a very niche genre. To be fair, even with total failures, you can make your money back from key sales.
>>580228502they really hate DD
>>580228502looks like it.
>>580228502A bunch of websites seem down.
A secret nobody tells anybody else about is the more games you have, the more consistent key sales are. Its not much, but it adds an extra protection layer when a game does bust. I make so much more money from my day job than game dev, but the biggest thing with Steam is more games means more opertunities for a sell.
>>580229158This is why once I'm done with my fotm slop game, I will buy a few asset packs and Claude subscription and ask Claude to just make reskins of my game with different themes (fantasy, space, pirates, mechas etc). Then sell them either individually or in a bundle.
>made massive upgrade to my prototype>time to upload it>itch is downnot that anybody would even play it but still
>>580229395This is half of the console market right now unironically
am i supposed to code with astra now?@Chris i need an updated opinion.
>itchio in the first spot of downdetector we had did just foken wonnered
itch io down because it was receiving too many Astra "Oneshotted" game uploads. please understand.
>>580229623don't use AI because using AI reduces your sales by 80%
uh oh, they are installing the backdoors
hmmm.. Suno kinda cooking with this schizophrenic rendition of my melody nglhttps://vocaroo.com/16RvGEPYQPEx
>>580230176chris would never post this, you just attached one of his jpgs.
>>580228279that's just a mosquito bite
>>580230273the fuck how am i supposed to compete with this slop
>>580228336he said thisi was there.
>>580228279i learned to shade anime like that from a respected riot games concept artist back in 2013.hol up lemme check what he does nowadays>druggie who sells courses about wobbly painterly-ish loliah. nvm. carry on.
>>580229158Honestly always kind of thought about just banging out like 10 games in 10 weeks just to see if any of them took off.Instead I just keep working on my hopelessly complex game i'm never going to launch
>>580230764>>druggiewhat a shame.
>>580230587watch out
>>580230832yeah... he gave riot some of their best early-ish coom designs (ahri, riven, yordles). rip my nigga.
>>580230273There is definitely potential here. Strong chord progressions and basslines, not bad instrumentation, but you have no melody. You need a fucking melody mgs anon
>He uses AI so his assets looks like an asset flip made with AI or Suno>But how will the npc goymers knowTrust me, all SUNO songs sounds the same.
new hopefuel just dropped>>580231197i've experienced a great friend gradually turn into a drug addict. he dropped out of college and we parted ways.it's terrible.
>>580231212I'm not planning to actually make anything with Suno, I just wanted to know what it could sound like if DAWs could actually reproduce real instruments without spending 1 billion dollars.
damn itch couldn't contain the raw potential of the DD
>>580231724pretty sure they just stole my game idea and ran. its over.
>>580231620Are you moving into a more James Bond direction or something? That's basically what MGS 3 Snake Eater was about. Nigga was trying to create his own Goldfinger.
>>580231407The people who said steam's algorithm was fine will now praise valve for changing the algorithm because it was broken except the algorithm change will just be another bandaid fix that tilts things further in favor of tiktok slop.
How do you learn game and level design?
>>580232610play game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkjKCnNGHW4Now I understand why americans complain about making 7-50 k with a game.
>>580232610Design games and levels.
>>580232610Play games and actually think about why the devs did things the way they did.There are many channels who talk about game design too if you want to listen to their opinions directly
>>580232610unironically, if you have to ask, you should find another hobby.
>>580232610Play a lot of games, all sorts of different genres. Think about how they made things. Mod their games or extract their assets and look at that too.
How do you get many (You)s in this general?
>>580233579Make game.
>>580233579Just like make good fun posts that people want to respond to.
It's up! Scrapped the whole procedurally generated terrain and just made a single giant 5k x 5k terrain which is large enough imo. Grafted my skybox + weather system from my other project as well as some vegetation prefabs. Took me the entire day to refactor shit but it's looking good now. No gameplay yet but it's maximum comfy now.
>>580233750I saw your itch profile and basically all you had were unfinished prototypes. Do you have anything that's completed?
>>580233897Nope. I just like making prototypes and learning stuff, I get autistically obsessed with a project for a month and then never touch unity again for a year. But who knows, maybe I'll finish this project I won't.
>>580233247You have to be born with it?
I'm porting my game's multiplayer to work with the browser versions because that's how most people are playing. I think it will be populated immediately based on the analytics. Was a ghost town before. The game's pretty kickass now. Both of my mod projects for Red Dead 2 are pretty popular, my games have players every day, my Skyrim videos get quite a few views every day.Looks like I'll be partying with Jeff Bezos snorting foreskins or whatever within the next 6 months.https://progchad.itch.io/pixurbiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_Jwq3M_vo
>>580234208It's more like, you should be engrossed with games on a level, where you just implicitly understand them and their design on some level, and don't need intro101 classes.Otherwise, it's gonna be an arduous task to slowly claw your way to understanding and then making interesting or engaging things.
>>580232610game design is learned by playingi think going to school for game design is retarded, you either have it or you don'tlevel design is learned by analyzing existing levels, then branches out into a bunch of shit based on what kind of game you're making
>>580234208Your genetics strongly predispositions your eventual adulthood IQ. You need at minimum 130 IQ if you ever want to hope to make serious video games and 145+ to stand a chance at making something market competitive. Many retards here lost the gamedev lottery the moment they were born.
level design is easy. just make real life locations. the civil engineers did that job for you.malls are a cheatcode too btw
>>580220530>>580220832I just started my game right before demo day but I finished rewriting my state machine from enum-based to class-based so now I can handle tons of states without it being a total spaghetti nightmare. That's good because I've currently got 25 states planned
>>580220901>don't seem to have any ideasYou don't have a game ideas doc?I write down everything, no matter how terrible it might seem. Also I log my dreams to mine for useful ideas too.
feels good to BTFO agdg haters.
>>580236716>goi destroyer
>>580236716Kris Kino incoming
My dick is getting hard for cris right now, which is not at all unusual
Why do people like Cris so much? I don't really pay attention to anyone named around here.
>>5802326100. Before you design anything, make sure the controls and physics have gone gold.1. Retard-proof tutorial level that forces the player to interact with necessary (not all, only needed to beat the game) gameplay mechanics in a way they literally cannot progress unless they get it.2. Make new levels each with a unique gimmick or set piece. Ensure the gimmick complements the core mechanics.2a. Introduce gimmick in safe environment2b. Make a bunch of setups exploring the gimmick2c. Make a fun exciting thing that really shows what the gimmick has to offer2d (optional). Wrap it up and end the levelExtra: Do not require every single mechanic in your game to be needed to beat it. That's for the autists to have fun with. If all Mario games required shell jumps, Nintendo would be bankrupt.
>>580237470you newfags need to seriously lurk moreit's ironic shitposting because cris literally can't complete anything
>>580237470Cris is our anchor onto this mortal plane.>>>/wsg/6229812
I'm here all the time and I don't even know who Cris is, I just ignore Crisposting
If Cris had worked on the same game
>>580238080No one believes this kek
>>580238207>If Cris had worked on the same gameHe'd be a bitter, doomposting flopdev instead of remaining the whimsical free spirit he is today.
>Aste-Droyds Demosomewhat fun but ruined by the wall of text, also the rectangular barrier kills the whole experience>Godspeed Gunslingerfirst level is fine but difficulty went to shit in the second level, needs a 1.5 level>Honey's Pony Classsimple but fun, it doesn't recognize when it's inside a circle already, please fix>Your party died again (Demo)quite fun and addictive, adding things that aren't available in the demo is a nice touch>Buster Wing (WIP)controls are very responsive making it quite difficult to not crash>Thank You Resume Speedtoo many instructions floating everywhere, improve those collisions>Prevail Starthe character is really slow, you can't tell what the items are, moving camera when?>MORTANoverall it feels like doing the same run over and over, no improving sensation neither while playing nor with the upgrades, when opening boxes she's not always looking at the camera>Hirdrih Technologic (WIP)so much text everywhere, so much controls for a platformer
>>580239607Sorry...
i need to figure out these social media algorithms
What engine would you guys recommend to a newfag with 0 programming knowledge and with a low spec pc? (10GB Ram, 4GB Vram)
>>580241379Godot
>>580239607Why did you play Hirdrih? The acceleration for walking is terrible and is worse than an old bootleg.
>>580242171NTA: i managed to softlock myself in that game thanks to janky switches. I love the graphics, they're outsider art in the sense that they look like the game maker games i made when I was 13
>>580242410Ask the dev to remake Cut Man's AI and he'll short circuit. Whatever mental illness he has prevents him from making quality gameplay if the OP image is anything to go off of.
>>580241379If it's an ancient cpu with integrated GPU I'd say loveIf it was made in the past 7 years, godot
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>>580243903you made it
Final Bokube level progressohttps://youtu.be/UvFz3mIzO3E?si=CPjbgCD2CaLq2OJ5
>>580243903Please this is the Amateur game dev thread not the Professional game dev thread.
>>580244117How long has Bokube been in development?
>>580243628My 8 year old integrated graphics craptop runs 3D Godot stuff just fine, including more complicated stuff like voxel terrains. Just don't expect 60fps all the time.
>>5802441712017 with really short made prototypes and demos for college that were made in a weekend off and on in 2016 but the content from those early quick prototypes from 2016 that actually had a demoday demo back then arent used in the actual game at all.
>>580244117bruv u so lost for real
I shall not play bokube, even if it was free
>>580244117I look forward to muting this shitty song when I reach the end.
>4 store assets>5 screenshot assets>5 library assetsWhy the hell does Steam ask for so many damn images?
how it started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEB_Y1mrMeIcute, comfy, aesthetic, a game many people would buyhow it's going: >>580244117confusing, convoluted, AI slop, schizo but in a bad way; a game basically nobody is going to buy
>>580244117Oh God are you putting in AI music? Or is that placeholder. say sike bro
>>580244916Yeah...I made them all. then later updated my capsule and now nothing matches
>>580237972Kek>>580244916I remember this with a previous game of mine. What a hassle that was.
>>580241379Unity 2017
Chud Economy
>>580246794my demo current players graph
Glad to see everyone here is embracing AI
I hear the desperate snap of the crabs in the bucket. Wagmi
thinking about completely downscaling by like 500% and just shipping i'm so done with current project nobody wants to play it and i'm not that fond of deving it
>>580247368Sometimes you just have to wrap it up and ship it
>>58024500890% of the game is AA tier cute and happy looking like pic related. Its contrast that the last level has you take on a scary demon in the end.
>>580247689damn, bokube looks that good?
>>580241428>>580243628>>580246734Alright bros, I'll try that outBy the way, is this book still up to date? I read some reviews that said it's not as useful anymore and wanted to ask before hyper fixating on the lecture
>>580247316Some of us will make it. Most of you will not.
>>580247850I wouldn't bother with some book. Godot is updated a lot and it will be out of date. Just download godot, play with it, read documention, try newer video tutorials if that helps.Look up how to mod godot games too, you can decompile any godot game basically and look at how big games got made in godot.
>>580247689no i've played bokube recentlyall your levels are way cluttered with tons of really uncomfortable and unpolished mechanics whereas the alpha version tried to be coherent and valued the simplicity your final level is just an ai generated slopcherry on top of everything else but at least it made me realize that there is a phenomenon that exists when you work on your game for too long; you start developing backwards, you start overthinking your designs and overcomplicating everythingbokube helped me realize one thing: indie games are not meant to be developed long-term, it is an outright death sentence to develop one game past the 4/5 year mark, possibly even earlier than that
Reeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! Supposed to be working but I got stuck. It's new UI I need but I'm not sure how on the design!
>>580247368Heh and here I am slowly scaling it up. I know it will sell wall but the more I scale it up, the harder it is to compete against mine.
Good enough.
>>580249323>No genre name in the description blurb>Every image is the first areaNGMI
why are normgroids so obsessed with the idea of "oneshotting" a game with AI? if they made something modular and broke it all down into shorter scripts then they could actually have an AI do most of the work and end up with something truly functional... but nooooo... it just has to be 1 prompt resulting in a north korean tourist grocery """store""".
>>580249657absolute mess of a post, very low coherency and not very concise
>>580220307END THE TRIPOD MEDIA BAN!!!!!!!!https://seedro.itch.io/children-of-the-khornehttps://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/plains-of-warcraft.320565/https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dark-bark-and-anomalous-grass
>>580249657If they're too lazy to do any coding/asset creation themselves then they're also gonna be too lazy to just plan the code modules and stick them together
>>580249323>and moretypo. you mean 'and moe'
>>580249657they wouldn't be able to stitch it together. ask any one of those faggots if they've even heard of a message bus.
>>580249657A test of it's capabilities attracts attention. if you got great results but had to tard wrangle it through 380 prompts, that's just normal, expected, not interesting.
ai can do 3d now>>>/3/1031696it's over
>>580249657The only people oneshotting are AI shills and enturpenuers. Look into all of their bios, none of them are established devs, all just AI shills because to them videogames are not something they want to build, it’s a benchmark, a prayer to the machine god of ASI that they worship. They don’t want to make games that they always wanted to make, at least most of them, they just love AI succeeding and their biggest desire is to see you burn, fail, lose job, be made redundant and outclassed by AI because that means AI is stronger and AI won another battle. We had vibe-coding for more then a year now and yet there are no big cool games made with it because one-shorting and destroying the industry with no survivors was the goal from the start. They hate you because you are in a field AI can plausibly replace in the near future, which means you are an opponent to it and you joining them means surrender.
>>580249636Thanks for telling me. I was about to submit it.
>>580250469Asset stores have been able to do 3D for over a decade now and you still don't have a game.
>>580250758are new AI assets more soulful than an asset store asset? i'd say yes.
>>580250758>>>/3/1032200
>>580220832the cards now appear above the player instead of opening a menu
>>580238832>bitter, doomposting flopdevfuck you too
>>580250469>nowthat's just tripo etc? not astra or any new development. astra is still amateur at modelling.
is that mixed resolution pixel art i fucking love that dude!!!!
>>580248570There hasnt been a new demo day demo in years buddy and you aren't betz or crumbledev who got a recent full build.
>>580251363This, but unironically.
>>580251457I got at least three day 1 reviews for you.Mojito the Cat sends his regards
>>580251363The text is only for testing purposes if that's what you mean
>>580251457but enough about your bulls
>>580251457>crumbledev who got a recent full buildHow's our favorite little frenchie doing? I see he's been taking lessons from you on letting release dates slip for several years.
>>580251457DD 67 was 6 months ago now go ahead and lie and say the game's changed a lot in 6 months, you know you want to you faggot
uh ohanti boku meltie
I'll do a write-up on the Mega man inspired indie action games here just for you tomorrow, guy who isn't fessing up in any of the discords as to what game he'd like me to play who brought me up out of nowhere
I love Boku-chan as much as I love Cris.
>>580220530Implementing my "relics" into the game.Except they're divided into "artifacts" which affect the whole party and "equipment" which only attach to one party member.I have the shop interface that adds artifacts to the run done, now I need to work on actually getting their effects to work. Equipment will come later.The current idea I have is to have them act the same way as status effects where every combatant keeps a reference to the artifacts and checks them every time something that might trigger one happens. I even have them reusing the same enum to determine how they trigger.I'm starting to think of game dev as one of those things where I complain about it every time I bring it up but still insist to others that I like it.Also finished the 3rd lesson on drawabox.
>>580252286
>>580248570I did play the game, it's fine and the difficulty is very retard-proof which is probably better for sales.
>>580250758i dont want to make a game. who gives a shit if you make a good game and sell millions or you never finish one. you will die in the end either way
>>580252427Gamedev is pure suffering the entire time and then you finish a feature and suddenly it's all worth itAlso I don't remember you asking permission to put my wife Morrigan on your game
>>580252662cool it with the nibbletism
>>580252860>then you finish a feature and suddenly it's all worth itI do get a fat dopamine hit playtesting right after finishing a feature and having it work.Weird that I don't get the same feeling from my programming job.
>>580225480The saiyan boy? Yeah he's pretty cool
>>580249323>only one environment
>>580255776gamers dont really care
>>580174920is it a VN now?I filled out the animated stickfigure from the other day.
>>580220307How would i do this in ue5? Art i can but blueprints unsure
>>580256051Gamers are truly cattle.
>>580256503just make some canned animations? what do you need it to do?
>>580220901but you said your problem was you don't care to animate dozens of creatures?>>580246794real world shit is unimmersive in most games except meme shit
>>580239607>also the rectangular barrier kills the whole experienceCould you elaborate? Did you dislike the limited playing area, or is the barrier just too ugly?
>>580257782I need to follow the players aim and be a flash light while attached to back of shoulder.Light i have.Following unsure have it but janky Attached to shoulder not sure, I have seen people build things with primitives would like to do that
>>580259386you rig it in blender and use IK in UE5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z-1vD1kY_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMaBqToH5cBeen thinking of remaking my old japanese vocabulary game prototype but in 3D.
>>580260693onaka ga itaindesukedo
>>580259626I'm going to do art pass later man not whole building the game
>>580259626Make 50 trillion animations for the arm
>>580261005>gonna do it later>later comes and goes and nothing is donealright, you know the risks
What's the appeal of chore games? Is the human brain simply wired to enjoy it when chaos becomes order?
>>580261217Hasn't told him how to do the blueprints just skip directly to art, a non functioning game. What's the risk if there's no game just a render?
>>580261442people enjoy chores, but the thing is that humans don't like when they're forced to do them.
Man I fucking reek it's distracting me while I prog but I can't shower till everyone wakes up
>>580239607>Godspeed Gunslingerwhat about the second level was especially difficult, thats like the one level that wasnt on my list to try and make easier. it probably wont be the first level after the tutorial though
Do you want an arm art? >>580261842https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculpture/death-stranding-sam-porterJust rip the arm then maybe you'll get >>580259626 to tell you how to make it function blueprints wise..
Loading up on sugar and pesticides while deluding myself I'm eating healthy.52 days left until I run out of money. I now owe 2600 minutes of work that I'm never gonna repay. I know the guy I owe it to, he's a pussy and he's not gonna do shit, he never does. I spent the last couple of days debugging prop placement and terrain generation, both of which I thought I'd solved. I'd say my hopes are dimming but it's way beyond that.
>>580235572Explains why I'm struggling so much and going in circles with me hovering around a mere 118 give or take (probably less on workdays) Maybe I should just use godot.
>>580262703Is you’re game even playable or no
>>580263284My is game is playable and I play it every day just for fun. It's missing a lot of polish and it's paper thin on content, but I'd say it has a couple of hours for players who are into that sort of thing
>Be retarded>Go through GDQuest code from zero>Go through Godot docs intro>Still can't write code on my owni wish i wasn't retarded
>>580249657It's the ultimate idea guy powerfantasy
>>580264074Following tutorials won't teach you how to code just like watching someone solve a math equation don't teach you how to solve the equation. You have to sit down and do it yourself.Start small.
>>580256065That shit look hella tight with the shader applied
>>580242171because it was in the jam?>>580259078>limited playing areayes, it's way too limited, and even worse, nothing happens when colliding with it>>580262021>tfw there's a level 0>tfw I was talking about the first one thenforget it then, I suck at those types of games, cool graphics desu
>>580261842part 1 is not 'art', just rigging, the part 2 of the video is blueprintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RO3M7prqw
mogs my art>>580256065
>>580264435>Start small.You're right. I thought I had enough knowledge to at least try making a janky Mega Man dash but I realize that's still advanced for me.
>>580264074Nobody codes on their own anymore bruh
>>580256065>VN now?No, that was only a shitpost. Still animating.
>>580245201>he missed bokudev's ai obsession arclol
lud status?
>>580261442Most people have the farmer gene (non-ADHD), as opposed to the hunter gene (ADHD)
>>580256065Ask horror ARG YouTubers to cover your game and put in allegories to childhood abuse or something, that seems to be par for the course.
>>580265751So I should code with a coding femboy bf?
>>580265751
>>580265751hobby devs might.
I love this hobby and this community!
feels good to not use AI.lol
>>580268841grats on making your first animations in 10 years that arent the one idle pose
You ever get such a good game idea you just start tearing up thinking about it?
>>580268989yeah until i actually try to implement it which is the stage at which it becomes obvious it's a shit idea
>>580228502everyone should have their own site anyway
>>580220901I always have ideas. In fact I have too many ideas. My problem is the shifting focus from ADHD. My brain can't really handle splitting focus within a given day. I barely get the basic human necessities taken care of and for the rest of the day I got one thing, the current focus, that takes up most of it. When it's gamedev it's all good. When it's something else I get no deving done.
>>580256065I didn't like your initial drawing but this looks fucking great in motion actually. I am humbled.
we wonned...https://x.com/choblin29/status/2096921209011372457
>>580271719monkey paw twist: AI is also better as the idea guy
i am not strong enough to make games without AI but i also do not want to fill the world with more bad slop.i think it might be over for me. i waited too long and missed my chance to create something myself
>>580272938goodbye
>>580272938You can just use to make something that isn't slop
>>580272938like 0.01% of game devs actually stick to the jobby until shipping on steamthe only ones who make it have unwavering morale
>>580271719Every tech CEO is a retard who knows nothing about tech except Apple's new CEO. Its like Sam Altman, Peter Theil, and Elon Musk are in a competition to see who can make the most retarded statement.
>>580249657They want to be "game devs" without doing any of the work. They live under the delusion that their "oneshot" games will make them money.
>>580272938You sound like the hero we need. that mindset will build games worth building, even with AI assistance.
>>580271719>anyone who wants to have a company now has genius-level employees in every area of expertise.Um. not ideas expertise tho.
>"do what you love"what i love: unpopular and a copyright infringementwhy is life always hardmode?
>>580271719Why do AI faggots believe that they have tools of the future but live in 2000s? If AI can do your SaaS business then nobody will buy from you.>But I met a guy who made 500$ selling his crap to 30 peopleLucky exceptions. The guy who made Flappy Bird became multimillionaire from a game that was coded in a day and was regularly being thought to kids as basics of programming. AI was able to code flappy bird 2 whole years ago, but no fucking prompter became rich from vibecoding a simple game 2 years ago.
>>580273695if it was easy mode, you wouldn't appreciate the eventual win.
>>580273695Do it anyway, something is better than nothing. Some parts may be recyclable.
>>580273695people who make mods sometimes get hired by big studios. it can happen.
>>580274196like tulipdev?
what's hilarious is AI was probably outperforming humans at ideaguying before it was outperforming them at coding or art. but no one would listen to it because how would it proven to you its ideas were better?
6 months of doing pixel art full-time and my vision is getting blurry even outside the computer. No one told me game dev is such a health hazard.
>>580274353two types of idea guyinga) i want to make max amount of money, whats the best idea?b) who am i? whats my identity? why do i personally love? what do i want? what do i value?A only works if you are business man good at finding investors, hiring employees, making marketing plans, building a work environment etc.B only works if you know who you are and if you stay honest to who you are. it has nothing to do with optimizing ideas, it's all about having a strong identity.
>>580274545B is entirely fabricated. A human can build whatever identity they want but it's only a lie to comfort themselves
So AI solved coding, but that never was a prolem for me. Can it do non-slop graphics yet? I need those le 8-bit pixel arts and animated RPG maker battle sprites and Half-Life like 3D models and much more
>gamedev bounty>3k >bounty up for three years, zero ppl interested>"hmm I guess i coul-">someone appears from fucking nowhere "hey I know some godot I'm picking this up RIGHT NOW"what a coincidence.this test, too, i will pass it. this one and the next.
>>580274858As soon as it can, it will be slop.
i wonder how much of the industry is devs thinking "i need to do this cause its popular", yet in reality if they wouldn't do it it'd work even better.somewhat cargo cult mentality, thinking you need to blindly copy e.g. pbr rendering, yet in reality people would go insane over osrs tier graphics.
>>580274858it can do non-slop, but it's not consistent. it could probably do better with the right reference material. if you import half-life assets into blender, so when it builds directly in blender, it could analyze the models so it builds in that way. I haven't seen anyone try this yet.
>>5802748583d models, yesin fact there has been some development on the "3d inpainting" thingpixel art, no. maybe static images with a little bit of clean up, but generally, no.
>>580274858>So AI solved coding, but that never was a prolem for meWhy don't you code a AI to make non-slop graphics or a spell checker?Why hasn't AI improved itself yet?
>So AI solved coding,
if you think about it, the biggest demotivator is truth.imagine grinding in an mmorpg. you think "if i only grind all day, i'll become rich and powerful". then someone calculates the rates for you and you realize it'd take like 1000 years to become the top just by grinding alone. so what do you do? you stop.ofc it makes sense to stop. but this is just one example. the same could apply to making a game. you might start working on a game, knowing nothing about gamedev. and one day you realize how much time, money, energy etc. it takes and then you stop.the thing is. if you only follow truth, you end up just getting a normal job and just do everything as a hobby.to be motivated you need some sort of delusion.i know i made a messy flawed point, but maybe it makes it more correct that way, cause we function by flawed logic and feelings and associations, not by pure logic (the universe cant be perfectly predicted)maybe an example is that sometimes the most cringe people become the most successful, cause they were delusional about being an actor or singer or tech bro, until they suddenly are successful.
>>580244117Bahahaha what the fuck is this?
>>580275545yes, cope
>>580275669>no jobswho is going to pay for the self-driving taxis? or buy the AI generated games?
>>580275913don't worry you can suck my cock for some cash
>>580275913AI consumes a lot of energy, it can also replace consumers in addition to replacing the workers. Games? Gone the way of the horseshoes, spinning jenny and calling cards, mere affectations that can't support a handful of artisans never mind an industry.
>>580275947how did you get the cash? sucked another cock? is it cocks all the way down to the billionaire?
>>580276171UBI or sovereign wealth fund
>>580276171you're soooo close to figuring it out
>>580276261t. cocksucker for free
Morning /agdg/. Time to work.8 Hours Main Work.Then Spare Time dedicated to planting Side Income Seeds.Let's go. All the best to you all.
>>580276261I can't go all the way
>>580276546Gamedev for 8 hours and do part time work on the side? Not a bad idea.
@cris have you considered getting diagnosed for ADHD? i think meds could finally help you finish ur first game after 15 years
I just imagined Tall Red Haired Woman with pale skin, freckles, prominent front teeth, and prominent clavicle meticulously developing our game together with me. I love her so much. She is my co-creator.
>>580276546
>>580276843the ginger beaver-mouth bitch is imaginary?!? I though you were already clapping those pale freckly cheeks
>>580276851Lol I'm not Brazillian, I'm Italian.
>>580275573>imagine grinding in an mmorpg. you think "if i only grind all day, i'll become rich and powerful". then someone calculates the rates for you and you realize it'd take like 1000 years to become the top just by grinding alone. so what do you do? you stop.Okay, now go tell lottery ticket buyers their chance of winning the lottery and see if they stop.
>>580276843Reminds me of Turning Red.
>>580277060what's the difference?
>>580276964she is she who persists through all imaginations actually.>>580277090never seen it.
>>580277060spaghetti italian or boat "italian"are you that one tower dev maybe?
How much do you need to quit your job
What if I wear a shock choker and program it to switch on when I don't git commit every hour? I could even sell them on Etsy as a productivity tool.
>>580277063not the same thing at all, and that is precisely why gamba is so popularlook up b. f. skinner's and nikolaas tinbergen's research
>>580277480Recipe for permanent mental fatigue.
>>580277475I'm 38 never had a job
>>580277226I'm sure there are some Italian Brazilians so this is a tricky thing to answer. I guess I'll appeal to likely Genetic Makeup of Brazilians not having Italian blood.I got nothing against Brazilians.>>580277429Italian and Russian American. You'll see my games here soon enough.
>>580275545>Everyone will make their own software and games at homeEveryone can do that now and they don't. No matter how easy AI makes it people just don't want to do that.
>>580276851KEK
I just ran into Boku in the wild wtfhttps://x.com/RoseSilicon/status/2097173560766652753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdkj8KwhaVAgot this reccmaybe good for those who feel uninspired, haven't watched.
>>580277480Why would you git commit every hour? I work on my project all day and probably only commit 4-5 times a day after I'm done with a big feature.
>>580277557Yeah it needs to be slightly random so that you don't anticipate it.I also need some way to stop this from working:while :; do sleep 30m; git commit --allow-empty -m 'shock stop'; doneMaybe check the commit contents in some unspecified way, but that may lead to privacy issues/complaints.
>>580276843You are so weird dude. I hope you're getting the help you clearly need
>>580276770Not Cris but I was a nodev who wanted to make a game for years until finally getting an addy script. Nobody plays my games but at least I start and finish them now.
>>580277480If you need to do shit like this you just don't want to make a game that badly, hate to break it to you. That's ok, stop forcing yourself to do stuff you don't want to do and go work on something you're actually excited about.
>>580278368adhd+ai = superpower
>>580278368*nods wisely*>>580278302Just meditate. If you need discipline, ADHD meds or meditation (preferably both if you have ADHD)
>>580256503It's just a chain of bones. You can rig it up and do all the animation with blueprints in engine. UE5 has quite robust animation tools though it will be a learning process.
>>580278619Yeah my superpower is scope creep.>Set out to add X feature>What if I added Y and Z too?>It wouldn't take long with AI>Add 15 features>Worked for hours at this point and still haven't added X
>>580278619adhd being a superpooper is a meme that probably ruined many lives by avoiding treatmentonly very few ppl with milder cases of adhd can truly channel it at command
>>580278741>>Worked for hours at this point and still haven't added X>X was unnecessary and you deemed it that way so you cut it out from the scope after hours and you write it in a log you keep to yourself.That was easy.
>Watch video about Minecraft bugs>Know Java, so I start looking through some of the code myself>It's not bad code per se, but it's full of hacks and super unoptimizedIf the biggest game of all time can have "good enough" hacky code, then I guess mine can too.
if your main gamedev obstacle was code or art, I have some bad news for you. much bigger obstacles await ahead
Making everything feels just right is lots of little adjustments players probably won't ever put much thought into
>>580279097The only real obstacles in game dev are lack of money and lack of taste.
anyone else making an N64-adjacent looking Chunky Game?
>>580279097the final boss of gamedev is polish
>>580279130They'll put thought into it if it's bad. If they don't notice it's actually a good thing.
>>580279097My main gamedev obstacle is nogf
>>580278198he echoes my thoughts.
>>580279097piracy?
>>580279386put your nametag back on boku
>>580278905Don't pre-optimize. Write the hacky solution and work with it until it starts taking up more time to deal with it than it would to rewrite it into something less hacky.
>>580279296they notice once they play some similarly controlling gameif game A controls well and game B has some issues then they'll be like why isn't this more like game Athey probably won't be able to articulate why game A feels better than game B though
NEETdevs, how do you survive in this economy? Do you feel any shame in mooching off your poor aging parents like a bloodsucking parasite?
>>580279959no and I leech off the state
>kannadev after making it
>>580279959I'm like a pet. I provide company in exchange for food and shelter. It's a fair deal.
>>580279959My dad had a hip replacement. I should be getting carer bucks or something but because he will recover in under 2 years I don't
>>580279097The most evil thing about gamedev is that it predominantly attracts people with mental illness and faces them with challenges they are hardly if at all equipped to deal with
>>580280205I suppose a bedbug or tick is kind of like a pet, in a deranged way.
>just get a job broturns out solo gamedev maybe isn't the dumbest choice in 2026
>>580279959>Do you feel any shame in mooching off your poor aging parents like a bloodsucking parasite?Who says I'm mooching? I carry my own weight in the household when it comes to helping with chores, cooking, and misc tasks. I'll be the nigga changing my mom's diapers when she becomes senile so she doesn't have to get mistreated by black people at the nursing home.Sure, I don't contribute with money but it's a mutually beneficial arrangement.And I get plenty of time to work on my gamesI already went down the path of living alone in an apartment while wageslaving, it led to an extremely low quality of living.
>>580279959>>580280375all humans are bloodsucking parasites before they're born btw
>>580279097the final obstacle of gamedev is the audience not giving a shit about your game. it's fine, it's okay but it's only in the top 5% instead of the top 3% so it's below poverty line earnings for (You)
>>580280375If you take one into your home and feed it voluntarily, I guess. But still doesn't apply to NEETs unless they're literally biting their parents and sucking their blood, or if whoever is funding them needs the money they're using for the NEET to pay for medical care and has to choose one or the other or something. Personally, my parents are wealthy enough that they can pay for everything.
>>580279959>be me>move out at 19>have job, but no girlfriend or social life>move back home at 27if society won't provide me with a girlfriend, I won't provide it with productivity
>>580280785u'll get ur gf once u release ur game
>>580280785Based.
https://voca.ro/17tqwRFyV9Er
>>580281050who is this auntie?
>>580281134>who is this auntie?https://huggingface.co/spaces/Aratako/Irodori-TTS-v4.1-Small-Demo
>>580281050>picIs that a giant roach?
>>580281134wanted to try it out after hearing https://x.com/nachat_dayo/status/2096895393376411927
>>580281182my first try was unintelligible. then I was out of tokens. oh well.
>>580281050Currently in pre-development stage.
a shooter where tactics matter 10 times as much as aim
shamelessly reposting until we have new stuff to show (2 more weeks)
Guys I have spent so long creating the first asset I am starting to doubt my entire game
>>580281992But why?
>>580277507>not the same thing at allIt's similar. Have you ever actually played a MMO? You're not just grinding for XP, you're either grinding for strong item drops which is gambling (but every ticket is an hour of your life) or in korean MMOs, you grind to enchant your equipment which has a 1/3 chance to completely break your item with each extra enchant.Yeah it "could" take you 100 years to become best on the server. But if you're lucky it could also just take you 1 year.
>>580281512>my first try was unintelligible. then I was out of tokens. oh well.thats the beauty of this model apparently its only 700mb and it runs on a cpu too if you run it locally
>>580282187ship it, trickle out the rest as paid dlc
>>580282191good question
>>580276851FAVELA'D
>>580281992I'm oddly interested in the destruction more than anything
>>580280534>>580280754>>580280785https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fVTxgnW5KOE&pp=ygUQbmVldCBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D
Call of Shooty: Dah Warfare
>>580282853well, we have 2 types of buildings, normal and wide ones. both use a box-like mesh with floors inside that we shatter once and then skew to fit the shape of each proc gen building.normal buildings are destroyed entirely when enough damage accumulates, while you can poke holes on wide buildings. there's also a structural graph in place for wide buildings so that the top falls of if you destroy the pieces at the bottom
>>580280168
>>580284658Very cool. This is like the end fight from an episode of Voltron or Power Rangers. Would be interesting to see a counter of how many civilians died when each building gets destroyed in the scale of 9/11s
>>580284409I'd like to dakka her waaagh if you know what I mean
>>580285635Oi What?
I'm out of food again
>>580256065Fren, teach me da wae. I keep fucking up. :(
we iz all orky boyz around 'eah
>>580274858it's getting there
>>580275012>what a coincidence.Odd isnt it
>>580276851Kek>>580276964>is imaginary?!? I though you were already clapping those pale freckly cheeksKek>>580277475Im already a neet bro. But hand me $250k and i can go a while longer as a neet gamedev
I need to make a third person camera and true first person camera now, fun.
>>580274858https://retrodiffusion.ai/https://x.com/Yakinik/status/2097213228271227102
>>580275012Sheep tend to do the same thing at the same time.
>>580280475Wew talk about humiliation ritual!>pay £20k bongbuxImagine?
>>580286517oh cool, is that a butt meter? what stat is it showing?why does the player suddenly launch off screen when it reaches zero?
>>580220307https://x.com/NACHOS2D_/status/2096989767191678986are the tranime xisters upset that their other tranime xisters are betraying them by siding with AI? oh no no no no
WARNING WARNING WARNINGWARNING fygoon having an autism overload take a break IMMEDIATELY before critical meltdown occurs WARNING WARNING
>>580286517>>580286723nvm should have read the filename
>>580276843Prominent Clavicle makes me laugh every fucking time it's so specific
I'm really tired of you non-passion losershonestlyI keep giving you real help and advice as wellevery dayliterallyI don't expect you to follow the path I tooksimply make good, passionate softwareit's not hardunless you lack passionif you lack passion, leaveyes reallygo awayI wasn't even 10 years old when I started learning how to program, and it was from making tribes construct game modes, the thing which came before gmodgoawayfromhereifyouareafakegamedeveloperyou don't become a game developer one day and start making a commercial game the next dayif you are trying to do that, you are delusional and trying to go too fastif you're trying to do that, you might still have passionif you have passionmakesomethinginterestingtoyourselfstop asking me or everyone else here what your character artwork should look likestop asking me or everyone else here if you should add one/two handed weapon switchingstop asking me or everyone else here how you should design your levelstop complaining about making camera modesI made more money from game development than no-passion greedy losers when I was very young,and yetthat wasn't my goalI wasn't even attempting to make moneypeople asked me to make a donation pageand I used this money to pay for more things to fuel my passionwhat are you even doing here?leaveonly if this is directed at you thoughonly you know if you have passionand you know if you're lying to yourselfif this post seems demotivational to youthen you should not be trying to make video gamesgo do something elseseriously>yes, I made my post in this style on purpose, don't
>>580286759If anyone reading this is still anti ai, just give up. You lost. It's best you accept that for your own mental health.
>>580286759https://x.com/NACHOS2D_/status/2096576268334432459erm... xisters?
>>580287197Is there a podcast version? I can't read.
>>580286826the frydarian situation is crazy
>>580287197based based based based basedwelcome to multi-line posting my friendyou see, it comes naturally when you are certain your words contain valuelook at the oot remakeif you don't like video games, don't pretend to play them, don't get involved in creating themjust petition your government for a stronger economythe video game industry is not an outlet for people whose lineage lost access to manufacturing work because it was shipped overseas to asian slavesfigure it outyou don't need to cope by doing stuff you don't care about because it's theoretically more profitable than wageslaving at amazonthere are solutions not rooted in desperate copethe people will discover this truth when the time is rightthere is hope
>>580287414
>>580279959I'm mooching off the government. Even that feels like it's coming to an end. This is not sustainable for me. I don't know how they expect people to live with these amounts. After mandatory bills and food I'm usually like 100€ in the red. I don't smoke or drink alcohol. Maybe I could cut down my food expenses if I started eating the absolute cheapest trash but at that point I might as well go jump off a bridge. It's not like I'm buying particularly expensive food or anything. It's just gotten too expensive. Hoping to release something next year and it's sorta make it or die for me. Making a bit but not enough to fund next couple years of development is a death sentence.
>>580287691They want you to join the military
>>580287280I was never anti ai, I can understand why some people might be opposed to it but like you say it's fucking ridiculous to think it will just magically disappear or be regulated, it's just going to advance. You're just shooting yourself in the foot by not learning it. It's like being a caveman and sticking to stone tools when copper comes
xhey called me a nodev just because i didnt want to waste effort in this nepobaby industry, i knew deep down that it wasnt worth it so i just posted on 4chan all dayand now God gave me astra and fable 5.1what does it mean huh?
>>580281401I can't even hear the audio on twitter without logging inwhat the fuck did they do to that site
>>580256528>>580256051sour grapes cope
>>580287554That's a neat alien goy but too derivative of a Spinosaurus and Jar Jar Binks. It lacks the level of creativity that I would find acceptable.
>>580287691>>580279959currently living with parents, going to look for work with temp agencies when my money runs low, if i wasn't living with parents i'd be splitting cheap rent in a more affordable city and working part time somewhereno shame in mooching because i am certain i will repay them what they have provided for memy gamedev productivity would be 30% of what it currently is if i got a job, even a part time one, because my routine is very immersed in daily repetition, even a day off can ruin my momentum, so i'm trying to avoid working until i absolutely need to, but even if i did need to work i am still certain i will be successful, it would just take longer and the execution would be less elegantit's okay to neet if you have discipline and avoid delusion, your effort will cumulate and you will repay those you owe
>>580287197how many wishlists and reviews do you have so far?
>>580287873make beamng + noita with themI'm waitingit's possible but you have no passion
>>580287978oh that's what it was supposed to be all i saw was an ugly balloon animal lul
>>580287760I have health issues that exempted me from conscription back in the day. Making military your career starts at 18 with the mandatory conscription for men. There's pretty much no way in after that. >>580287994>going to look for work with temp agencies when my money runs lowI would but working temp here is a suicide. Only negatives. You lose your gibs but you also don't get paid enough to live.
>>580288060i will find passioni will find what i want to do you will see
>>580279959I'm proud to see so many NEETs in this thread. Warms my heart.
>>580288202>Only negatives.sucks, sorry to hear that, it's positive for me because i can sustain a low cost of living, and it's easy to find temporary work fastif i run low on money i just go work at a warehouse for a couple months at most, save up as much as possible, and then come back and work on games again with a new financial cushionof course the labor is hard but if your testicles are functional that shit doesn't bother you, it's good money for the situation
>>580288304Explains why there are so many nodevs, the thread is infested with them.
Does this look natural?
>>580285850here are the raw frames. I think you are nearly there!
>>580288594natural for a fentanyl user
>>580288594
i strongly dislike realism in games because in my mind it feels like i've already seen whatever the game is presenting to me so many times already that it isn't only boring to observe but it begins to actively cause agony
>>580288594yes it looks like the classic samurai technique to quieten footsteps
>>580288594naturally bad yeah
>>580288890didn't ask
>>580284409>>580285772try my gamehttps://files.catbox.moe/z3tgqd.html
>>580288594Yeah, I see cuchos at the favela walking like that at night
>>580288358Yeah it really sucks. My friend worked a particularly well paying temp job but one with really random availability and he went into a bunch of debt and in general ruined his finances because of the bureaucracy with temp jobs over here. Now he's working a full time job to unfuck his life.
eventually people will get bored of playing the exact same games with new branding right
>>580288890how else can we have realistic talking mice?
>>580288594Cris kino
talking mice is enough
>>580289159puzzle games will always be popular
>>580284409stop ruining orcs
>>580289159marketing companies put a lot of effort in to stopping people from developing niche interests, so that they can keep selling those types of gamesthat's why if you ask someone if they like a niche game they often don't know anything about it, but they knew the title or something
>>580287414>pant>groanAI is so cute. I don't want it to grow up
Just like make game.
>>580289061catbox doesn't work with htmlhttps://call-of-shooty.edgeone.dev/
>>580289653nintendo is spawning a new generation of loli blender porn
>>580289750the title is extremely unappealing
how dare we leave anything to the player's imagination?we will be missing out on sales!the non-gamers won't play it!quick! optimize the mass-appeal formula.do this, or we lose our investors, and will no longer be able to afford operational costs, even with downsizing operationsit is sad what inflation has done to our company, we can no longer afford to make humble games, we need massive hits, or we will diethis was caused by inflation, which was caused by a lack of exports, which was caused by reduction of civic participation in our resource extraction and manufacturing industries, which was caused by a rebellious workforce, which was cause by poor working conditions, which was caused by chronic anxiety amongst the elites, which was caused by a lack of peace amongst the working class, which was caused by a lack of charity amongst the poor, which was caused by something i am unconfident enough in to extrapolateand now, many decades later, we are suffering the subtle consequences of this butterfly effectsad!let us learn our lessons, promptly!
>He doesn't have indie paid gamedev tools bought
>>580289653What WEG is this from?
the recluse will be text-based games, i assure you, this bastion will be harmed only by erotica
>>580220530Tech tree slowly grows
>>580289979ok
>>580289979yeah
>>580290167by the way, despite how I always discourage you guys from focusing on art or music early, it's important to focus on good UI right from day 1, if the game has UI, put effort in, otherwise you're stuck with that forever, I doubt you're going to want to refactor the UI over and over and over
i respect it
>>580290036>kenny>indie
>>580290383You can just give an image to Opus and it will make the ui look exactly like it. You are living in the past - ui refactor is a few clicks away at any moment
>>580288594please, never stop making games, and never stop posting progressyou are the soul of this generalwhen we depart, you will remain
>>580288594dayum dis nigguh gettin crunk
>>580290502UI/UX is not about looks alone anon, that's how I know you have no idea how to make a good UI, unless you were purposely leaving some of your considerations out from laziness or something
>>580290721You just want to talk down to people and deny them
>>580290383That's fair, the top category/industry bar will be reworked, the tree itself is functionally working - drags, scrolls and highlight of proper nodes works as intended.
wait is the jam over? i thought it was a day away. so the time to review games is over then?
>>580290854>jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C13zheVpKNYAI sloppers BTFO.
>>580290383Why would you be "stuck with UI" forever? That makes no sense.
>>580290383Make something functional and playable. You can always redesign it. It's really not that hard to refactor a UI. Besides, putting too much effort into presentation early will bite you when you inevitably change gameplay mechanics and how they'll need to be presented.
>>580291171damn, if a white woman (formery white man) on youtube says so... I guess AI lost......
>>580291262truthnukesystems first, then art, then polishbonus points for story first
>>580275336>He thinks AI is programmed
>>580279959I mean no one is hiring me for anything that remotely pays well enough so....I live at home. I gamedev and hopefully I can get rich off it and maybe give them some money. They might reject it though despite one or both being worried about money despite their retirement funds.>>580280534>I already went down the path of living alone in an apartment while wageslaving, it led to an extremely low quality of living.Seems like a scam so you cant save as much money.>>580280205Kekd
>>580291356>TrannyNo, thats cis woman, this is just how white women look
>>580292081kek
>>580292081high test good genes explains the mogs
>>580280785>provide meWhat a helpless baby boy, the world doesn't provide you with shit, you take what you want
After sleeping on it, I suppose all it needed was some more shading and moving things a little.
>>580292810this is how an incel mf talks to another incel mf to sound tough on the internet
>>580292906look good anon!
>>580292906Is she supposed to be wearing a hat that covers part of her head?If not please draw the rest of her head that looks awful.
>>580291932LLMs are a mapping of the cosmic consciousness onto the ethereal plane and programs are the substrate we use to manipulate that mapping.
>>580293107She has a hat in the original drawing, maybe anon still working on it.
>>580292906why face so long
no point in posting anything here unless you want autists overanalyzing pixels normal humans will never notice
>>580293339It's for the blowjobs, you'll get it when you're older.
>>580292906hag rape hag rape hag rape
>>580291139yeah demo day, whatever
>>580293432will never consciously notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOJrvKe8NAA>eastern european accent>complains about valve and the 30%>complains about valve fanboysWE FOUND HIM. THE GABENCUNT POSTER HAS BEEN FOUND OUT!
>hags
Getting soooo much proggin done
Why are so many /agdg/ games about sadness, death and violence? Why can't you make games about happiness, love, and friendship instead?
>>580293124We live in a simulation run by the AI we are building towards. All games have been made by AI since the beginning.
>>580294036grow up
>>580294036We have so much happiness in our lives, that we want to escape to something novel for a change.
>>580294036A story with no stakes or conflict is not interesting at all.
>>580294036Friendship and happiness are forged in the hardship of war and violence, obviously.
>>580294036I'm making a game about that anon.
>>580294036this is so true. the video game market for children is gigantic and open for new devs but aggyfags just keep making edgyslop and porn
We're reaching critical levels of SOVL.
>>580294651I showed my older co-worker with kids my game and he asked me if I'd ever considered making educational games. He said any educational games he could find for his kids were either not fun enough to engage them, or not really that educational so they might as well just play something else. Could be an untapped market.
>>580294780Bro you need help exiting the favela prison
>>580294036But I am....making a porn game.....
>>580294780>coin collect slopdropped
>>580292906she looks like she blows shotas
>>580294834well what are you waiting for sis?
Just remake Castle of Dr. Brainhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a6I3qEuDzw
an educational porn game
>>580294965>Can't understand the appeal of SMW coins
>>580295201>teaching feeling
>look through the AI games fest on steam>most of them look like something AI could make in a few afternoons and they all sold like 2k+ copiesTalk me out of getting a claude subscription and just uploading 2-3 shitty AI games to steam per week.
>>580295116I've been trying to think of something that is educational, but not super on the nose about it, like "Solve math problems to do damage". Slay the Spire requires you to do a lot of mental math to play well, and I've learned a lot of interesting words from games like Dragon Quest. Wondering if you could channel stuff like that to make an educational game that doesn't really feel educational or feel like doing homework. Kids will absolutely learn new things and try their hardest if its working towards something you can make them care about, but they also have a great ability to see through bullshit.
>>580295472if it were that easy, then everyone would be doing it
>>580244916if you can't find a handful of interesting screenshots for your game then maybe your game is not that good
>>580294834The issue with that market is kids don't want to play educational kids unless the education is disguised as real gameplay mechanics such as >>580295563
>>580295591Everyone is doing it
>>580295591last week close to 800 games have released on steam, literally everyone is AI slop flooding steam right nowif you're not you're getting left behind, this is the last few months we have to milk the cash cow that indie games are before it's over
>>580295794Nah, they'll just start detecting AI using the "invisible watermarks" that companies are implementing. Then disclosure won't be voluntary and they'll flag it immediately as AI. Whether or not consumers care is a different story though.
I'm so tired of the OpenAI sponsored "astra oneshot" posts all over my feed.
>>580295472What are some examples? I'll tell you if AI really did it in a few sessions, answer is probably no. When new AI models release, people shilling it often exaggerate what they can do in one session and they'll show what looks like a complete game while hiding that most mechanics are missing because the prompt didn't cover that.
>>580294780>cris doesn't know about the Gauntlet Loopbruh
>>580274491Are you sitting at least 80cm from your screen?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_vIsXpATQ
>>580295930That's not going to happen little buddy
>>580295948Try it for yourself and experience the thrill of something being done in minutes where it used to take years and you'll understand. You might receive free credits if you try within the next 30 days.
>>580295930...but it's irrelevant because you can still make the AI do all the code, data, balance, translations, UI and so on, you just then have to supply it with graphics... that you can just purchase from asset stores.
>>580295117oh my god. I remember the circuit puzzle.
>>580295794>last week close to 800 games have released on steamsourcerino?>literally everyone is AI slop flooding steam right nowat least half of those are usually not ai slop and the ones that get more than 10 reviews are extremely unlikely to be ai slop
>>580287004Because she is a specific person. She is the most beautiful woman ever.
>>580296012>When new AI models release, people shilling it often exaggerate what they can do in one sessionHow do people like this still exist
>>580296396https://kotaku.com/700-games-released-on-steam-just-last-week-setting-a-new-record-2000730502
>>580296480I use AI everyday, unless you're shelling out like 10K in credits and prompting it constantly, it's not going to do that.
The same thing that's happening to Steam now has been happening to YouTube for like 2 years now. Unless the watermark thing like >>580295930 happens, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it. I'm of the opinion that AI genned stuff is fine if it's high quality, and God knows there's a ton of manmade stuff that sucks, but most of the stuff being genned really is just slop. It's gotten to the point that there are AI witch hunts against fully manmade stuff because nobody trusts anyone anymore. The internet as we know it will become basically unusable pretty soon unless something changes.
>>580295930this would mark all the new AAA as AI and they don't want that.
>>580295563Yeah I think there’s pretty much no point in dedicated educational games -- games per se are already educational if they are enjoyable in a sense. It’s kinda the definition of playing: Learning by doing, but without the high stakes of reality.More importantly than dry facts or models, games teach you critical thinking and actual use-cases. Knowing that a square build minimized resources spent on walls is more immediately valuable than knowing about quadratic function yadda yadda.Bridge building is also a nice game genre to get a feeling for functions/graphs.I don’t think there’s a point in making a game that requires you explicitly to find the zeroes of a polynomial… once you’re into it, the sole task of finding the zeroes (on paper) can be pretty fun desu. But if you’re not into it, the game should rather be such that it models a problem where playing along the zeroes would be optimal; and then either you figure out the math or the intuition, or you don’t, I guess.
>>580296738it's so simple. If it's Good, who cares if it is AI?
>>580296653Are you making ambitious prompts? If you ask for twee bullshit you get twee bullshit
>>580297130Not right now because I've been making it fix bugs I find in my game. Sometimes I do ambitious prompts when I'm ready to move on to a new big feature.
post gpt programmed noita, if it's not awful I would play
>>580296738there's an educational youtuber called phy the neutrophil who released a video titled "How Do You Make Sloppa-Resistant Content?"the gist of it is that humans excel at many things ai does not excel yet, and your job is to maximize those vectorshe explains that he started live-streaming and using a live2d model so that people come to him for /him/ and not just for the science facts. he has made himself more slop-resistant than a faceless youtube channel that way.something to chew on.>>58029713090 iq ahh troubleshooting
>>580297730so many words to say nothing
Imagine supporting and using AI when it's making your hobby unaffordable to you and your audience and it's only going to get worse.
>>580298107Not using it isn't going to change anything. Stop blaming the slaves instead of the slavemasters. You tards always do this.
>>580298327He's got physiognomy of a dock worker, butcher or a pumpkin farmer, not a gamedev
>>580289653Ninten is spawning a new generation of big nose tomboy loli fans. My game might have a chance.
>>580298107Because if I refuse to use AI my hobby will get destroyed all the same but if I embrace AI, then I can at least attempt to make it before the hobby is completely destroyed. This is "adapt or die" kind of situation.
>>580298507kek, should have used ai would have looked better than that
>>580297951>reading tripfaggot postsbeginner mistake
>>580298436>the gamedev physiognomy
>>580268989Yeah we all gone through the "OH MY GOD THIS IS SUCH AN AMAZING IDEA HOW CAN IT BE POSSIBLE THAT THIS WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE IN THIS GENRE???" then you start implement and slowly realize why
just increasing the level of sovl.
>>580299079That's enough progress today cris. Time to watch some YouTube then harass /agdg/ for a bit for not making a game about Yakuubian myth before posting some casio baroque tune then going to bed and doing it all over again tomorrow.
>>580282292I ran it locally now. I've discovered this was trained on porn just fyi. iku iku.
My minimalist UI looks bad, but I need it for the prototype. However this makes me realize that I have no idea what style or art direction i want the actual game to go in.
>>580298436skier if he was a video game developer
>>580299974there's nothing wrong with minimalist UIalso, see >>580287197
>>580300171My issue with minimalist UI is even though I didn't AI generate it, it looks AI generated. And I'm making this game because it's funny, not because I'm trying to make first world wages to escape a second/third world shithole.
>>580298714Is AI actually going to help you make it faster though?
>>580300446that's not really a problem, I was trying to say the look of the UI isn't important and it seemed like the other anon didn't really understand I was trying to motivate, not demotivate anyonefocus on fluid, good feeling functionality and then it's not important how it looks, since basically everyone can feel when a UX design feels good, even if they don't know why it doesit is one of the or possibly the most important thing, and like 95% of the anons here would likely disagree, which isn't out of maliciousness but a lack of passion for UI/UX, if someone talks about not enjoying UX, that's what I meanI actually highly enjoy UX design and I generally make my own library per-project since it doesn't take forever
>>580298507WEG
Todd Howard, Peter Molyneux, Hidetaka Miyazaki and Kojimbles are forced to make a game together. What do they make? If the obvious answer doesn't immediately come to you you're ngmi
>>580301219Feet Hero
>>580301219It would be literal trash, Todd Howard would destroy the game by trying to make all final decisions.
>>580288765God bless you, anon!
>>580296472May we see her....
>>580301478Let me ai gen her based on his description
Friendly reminder that there is higher demand for video games than ever before.
>>580301132>3D loli wegs from the 2000scan't think of a single one
>>580301575>be greedy jew/boomer>destroy all benefits of being a member of society for goys because you're greedy and evil and hate guys or just a greedy boomer>be surprised no one wants to keep participating in a society where they are treated like garbagegee who could have seen that coming
>>580301219Loli Survivors
>>580294036Marotte's story was pretty happy and had some campy humor. Even the slaves looked like they had it easy.
>>580289159Not if we keep producing new maladjusted people. In that sense risky casual sex is essentially part of the job description.
>>580301438:) looks cool. I darkened the distant limbs a bit(in the vhs edit) to help with clarity. I think it gets lost which leg is closest to the viewer?
>>580301128True, I love UI/UX, you can make any software feel good to use and it matters for games too
>>580302467UI/UX is the most difficult part of game development. At the company i work for our game got pretty good reviews but almost all negative reviews came from clunky UI
>>580289159You gotta remember that new people are born constantly/growing up who haven't played anything and are looking for the "new [x]" game to play. They rarely play retro games were development stopped. You're good.
>>580295472Post em I want to see if this is true.>>580301564Done yet? Im curious.
>>580301575Chud failed son here, I play mostly at least 5 year old games. I have only like 5 games I actually play but I have 300+ hours on each.
>>580302849Maybe for you. UI/UX is fun to develop and easy make nice looking/easy to use. Similar to just designing a nice website or something.
>>580301478She will appear on our G4 Portal-like YouTube channel which we advert our Games with. As my lovely co-host and co-creator.
>>580303162I dont know, have you tried making a resident evil-style grid-based inventory for a rpg where all equipment can have submenus for accessories and dyeing them, need to display stats, be dismantled, able to je crafted, etc etc etc x10? It's pretty difficult. At least it seems difficult, I'm not a ux designer so i don't touch that stuff i do character art.
>>580299035It's always 1 of 2 things:1. Your idea has been done before, and you just think it hasn't because nobody cared about the other games that did it. More research will show you a few similar games that flopped because there was simply no demand for it.2. Nobody has done your idea before, but that's because it's either impossible to implement or it never made it past testing since it just wasn't fun.The mistake I (and I'm assuming others) made is ignoring these signs because I was overconfident in my abilities.If it's option 1 you will think those other games just weren't executed or marketed well enough and you can do better (you can't).If it's option 2 you will either give up when you realize it can't be done, or double down release something awful because of the sunk cost fallacy.
>>580303054Sorry i was eating i just started my computer ill do it now
>>580303367What is it like being a grown ass man with an imaginary friend that you post about every day on a mongolian yak herding forum? I know people here are pretty damaged in general but your daily devotional schizo waifuposting makes Chris look sane.
>>580268989yeah, I'm building a game which makes me very emotional. It means a lot to me.
>>580303989I teared up writing the story for my game, but I don't know if that means its good or that I'm just sensitive and deranged.
I love my tulpa wife
>>580304108I love your tulpa wife too
>>580303897this whole world is my imagination. She's the woman who underlies it all. Coalescing at a particular point with full knowledge to be with me bodily.
>>580304108*nods wisely*
>>580304464based solipsist schizo dabbing on the realitycucks
>>580296274if it took years for you to make what aislop poops out in minutes then I got bad news for you
how do we solve the edelnacho pedophile discord situation? without xhem /agdg/ can start to heal again, maybe another hopoo could be born here
>>580297378why play gpt programmed noita when you can play noita?
>>580304680Link to the server
>>580303853#1 is just a beginner or low-IQ mistake. Some anons simply neglect to do any serious market research. Others lack the capacity to analyze and reduce gameplay down to its fundamentals, and thus can't understand that they are simply making worse reskins of existing games.As for #2, game design is genuinely hard. It's not impossible, but coming up with an original and unique combination of mechanics that results in actually fun gameplay is one of the hardest things to do in gamedev. However, many breakout indie successes fall under this category, and thus resulting in many gamedevs (including myself) chasing that dragon.
>>580304680>edelnacho pedophile discord situationqrd?
>>580298893i look like this but my game has 4 reviewsexplain this one, genius?
>>580298893Me, Eric Barone, and Timothee Chalamet look similar but each with our own distinct looks. So GameDev Physiognomy really varies.
>>580305146>>580305320>Not handsome enough to coast on my looks>Not ugly enough to be an underdog, or at least be memorableBeing average is the worst thing you can be in this world.
i only have 1 word to say: astrathats it. thats all i have to say
>>580305520it nukes my 5 hour usage in a single prompt
There are two types of successful gamedevs.Fat>Edmund McMiller>Gabe Newell>NotchFit>Eric Barone>Tynan Sylvester>Austin JorgensenChoose your side wisely.
>>580305520that's all you're paid to say :)
>>580305954what about toby fox and sakurai
>>580306049They're spiritually fit.
>>580305954What if I'm bald with a beard and glasses but I'm also fit? Then what?
>>580306269Then you belong in the third, forbidden category,>soi dev
>tripfag
>>580303897>mongolian yak herding forumOh fuck no wonder no one was talking about monkeys. Anyone know the address to the norwegian monkey milkers forum?
>>580304946unique != goodOr rather if nobody has ever done something, there is probably a reason for it. Most great games are only a somewhat original twist on established ideas. Everything is derivative and there is nothing wrong with that.
>>580303054here it is
>>580307018need red-head slampig gf
>>580305656use medium or low, astra low is better than sol medium which is what i use with luna max subagents and its more than enough for most sessions, for vibe coding youre fucked i guess, go back to luna max only with chatgpt extra high making bounded criterion instructions via github issues, that would be the cheapest and best way to dev >>580305957i wish, where do i go to get paid?
>>580307018Why do all AI girls have the same face
I want to prototype a third person action rpg with focus on the rpg with active abilities but somehow it is difficult to even start. I know I need a character controller and I even have a nice one from an old prototype. Honestly I'm not sure how to make 3d combat that's not guns. Some sort of 3d collision checks timed on the abilities? Is it just the animation, visual effects and timing that makes up the rest? This is the sort of topic I wouldn't mind watching some tutorials on but I never found any good ones.
>>580307249How large is your team?
>>580301219meme posts like these don't undertand what a director isit's like saying "imagine if david lynch, kubrick, tarantino and george lucas made a movie together"
>>580307186She's got that Zootopia rabbit face. I think Pixar art is just popular and sexualized a lot so a lot of it was fed to AI models.
>>580307018Too chubby in the body and the face. The prominent clavicle and Tall height I keep mentioning indicates an elegant body structure.
>>580304680A new Hopoo being born here wouldn't be deterred by something like a dumb Discord.
>>580307018Fuck now I want a thobeit too!
>>580307018Here's mine, I went with however the original poster described her. I included that she's a dedicated game dev though who is supportive and encouraging.
>>580308187wholesome picture.
if you can't look at level zero:extraction and see what went wrong, and when through the various playtests and updates, then you most definitely have no sense of game design, and it shows that even companies lack the knowledge to make good game design and make awful things
I am making a Cozy Game. I want people to be able to snuggle up and play my game.It'll have an N64-Adjacent Art Style. It's going to make people cry because it hits their hearts.
The reason why I'm going to make it even though my games are shit is because I firmly believe that I'm going to make it.
>>580308538post art
>>580308538did you already give up on DF 3D?
>I firmly believe that I'm going to make it.
>>580308538gay and lame
>>580308774based and crispilled
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival
>>580308538I am also making a N64-adjacent art style. My game won't be particular emotional though, it's more meant to be silly and funny.
Aieeeee I hate devving stuff I have little experience in since I procrastinate it. When I have no clue how to implement something or where I have to decisive in a design choice I just freeze up. Why can't I be more decisive?>>580307634Alas anon is right, the chick is hot but bears no resemblance to anons dream women>>580307018Umm pls make the one of my dreams, busty, short, slim, and redheaded...p-pls ;_;
>>580308840No.
>>580308187ew chatgpt
>>580306693No one's asking you to come up with original mechanics. There are hundreds to maybe thousands of known and well-understood game mechanics. Games are combinations of mechanics, and even a small number chosen from that pool result in an overwhelmingly large set of possibilities (e.g. 10 mechanics selected from a pool of 100 results in 1.7310309e+13 combinations)Even the smallest unique twist to an existing game that are actually still fun are not easy to come by in this vast sea.
>>580308187She cute (but not my type)
I've been thinking about increasing the fog even more to stop the player from seeing enemies too far away and being able to just snipe them before they even get the chance to attack.Retro games are known for having low render distance anyways
>>580308946
>>580308798You'll see here soon enough. I'm building the engine. Here's a screenshot from Engine Development.
>>580309292Is your game retro?
>>580309292*nods wisely*
>>580309420Yes, it's me. The kanna.
>>580309574OG aggy-daggies with high verbal IQ can tell by your posting style.
>>580309106well if you want it to be on point then be thorough like eye color and clothes etc. is she freckled? you know. also if you want any specific style of the ones i posted
>>580308187bitch, why you sitting so close to me? I'm tryna work get out the way
>>580308187A woman showing her kind side to me is even more outlandish to me than the thought of having sex
>>580309292>pedobait in striped panties characterNGMI
>>580309292>pedobait in striped panties characterGMI
>>580309292This >>580310662
>>580310662winner
ITS UP!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7ble9P74o
>Yes, it's me. The kanna.
>>580311127Yawn. If it's not at least open-weights it's not worth my time.
>>580237972>a mere coin of that treasure
The "new AI technology" state machineIs it uncensored? Yes -> Use it.No -> Throw it in the trash.
>>580309292>>580309420>>580309475>>580309574>>580309892>>580310336>>580310662>>580310915>>580309106me samefagging to encourage myself
>be me>friendless girlfriendless jobless>excess male wizard, zero value>Tuesday evening>rotting in my childhood bedroom making a game no one cares aboutbut my mom made lasagne so it's not all terrible.
>>580311430For me it's>i need to grind gamedev and get faster to become stronger, to master all the skills so I can be better until I BTFO and shatter this industry's cursed tether
Anyone else does not feel like writing prompts ahead of time when they run out of quota? It's like there's no fun in playing with AI when there's no instant dopamine reward. I'd rather wait until I can do it live even though writing prompts is bottlenecking me.
My G4TVPortal-like YouTube Show is going to be so great and charming.
Symbols relevant to my Game Dev Brand;-The Black Sun-All Seeing Eye-ObeliskWhat about yours?
>>580312552opposite for me, I write them throughout the day as it makes it easier to multitask and plan it out when I actually put them into action, also allows you to think through them better
>>580237972>my cris suno shitpost is still being reposted>they also nerfed suno to hellsad
My Game Dev Mansion is gonna have an Obelisk right in front of it surrounded by a plaza.
>>580312817A maid.
are we in the death of ambition era of gamedev?everything is too big in scope now. nobody wants to make a sims game anymore, nobody wants to make an open world gta, nobody wants to make an mmorpg, nobody wants to make an open world rpg.i get it, it's out of scope. but think about it, doesn't that mean that ambition is dead now? if everybody thinks everything is out of scope, it's basically game over right? imagine all scientists agreeing now that space travel is too big in scope, it'd basically mean we all gave up on dreams.
>>580313361No, I'm making a game that is sort of like Dwarf Fortress 3D but with more to it.
>>580313361My game is highly ambitious.
>>580308946https://store.steampowered.com/app/3495740/BLADEMANCER/trailer makes this look kinda cool
>>580313361what? there's more ambition than ever be it using ai, my twitter feed is full of people making or trying to make those games
>>580313361>nobody is falling for the scope trap anymoremy job here is done.
>>580313361There's two reasons:1) It used to be that a minimum wage job could support yourself and a family, so it was affordable to put even more budget aside for the game. Now a full time job barely covers rent and food, you can forget about having even more money for devving or paying people for commissions.2) Games have greatly expanded in terms of size. What could pass as a full game, would be considered a boring, short demo these days. You need 20x the output content-wise that people 10-20 years ago had to do.It's not matter of ambition but it's just not feasible if you want to be realistic about not only shipping something but shipping something that people will want to play.
>>580313361this thread is full of bright, ambitious, and handsome young men, what are you talking about
>>580313361all of those games are being made nigger
>>580313424>>580313154>>580308538Aren't you the same schizo that blogs about your breakfast every day and how you're running out of money and owe some guy work hours and all that? Or is that some other tard
>>580313361lol
>come up with yet another cool idea>immediately find a better game on steam yet again
>>580313361Ambition isn't dead. It's just that when you see shitty little games make big money it feels foolish to spend time making a big game when you won't have any guarantee you'll make any sort of return on that time investment. Big games are for when you don't have to worry about the money.
>>580313361Games are getting less and less hard to make, pretty sure you'll be seeing more of those games in the future. One issue with life simulation (like The Sims) is that the main fanbase is rabid and insane women/gay men who complain a lot. Makes development harder from a marketing and social media standpoint for them.
>are you kidding, theres tons of people making games like gta, elder scrolls, the sims etc.>like eeehm uuhhhm eeeeehm>eeehm uuuhm>and there's toooons of new mmorpgs now like>eeehm uuuhm>eeeehm wow exists you know its like 100 years old now but eeeehm uuuhm it means it still exists uuuhm>why you want new things anyways?
>>580314175go to >>>/v/ if you want recommendations
>>580313693I don't do those posts. I know which posts you're talking about.
>>580314175We just got inzoi and paralives recently, both in early access but both do certain features and mechanics better than the sims.
>>580314407Sims mogs both of them in terms of Art Direction and Ludokinography.
today I will remind them>>>/wsg/6230171
>>580314534i agree with you. that other poster is brilliant example of online users now. they seem to be incapable of making a judgement which games are actually good and improve a genre. they seem to be very bad at pattern recognition. i guess it's called low iq.
>>580314534Newest sims has also been in development for like 20 years straight. If you were comparing the sims at launch, it would look like shit compared to inzoi and paralives.
>>580314790Inzoi looks better. Unless your thing about life simulators is you really enjoy outdated cartoon looking characters with fortnite jeet animations, then yeah I guess.
>>580314726I find that hard to believe. Inzoi and Paralives look very bad to me.
>>580313361This is engagement farming. It is against the ToS.
>>580315030>Inzoi and Paralives look very bad to me.So, you haven't played either of them.
>>580315058i didnt expect to get a single reply as usual. i wonder why that post hit a nerve.
>>580315304I looked at screenshots / video. I'm talking about the art direction, not gameplay.
GTA but with lolis
Morrowind meets Minecraft.
skyrim with sex
balloon animals in unity
>>580262703can you trip so I can filter your posts please. You stopped signposting awhile back
>>580314587>3 minutesI'm not listening to that unc. Make it shorter like the cris song, and add an image with the lyrics too.
>open up a random character design generator>hit random a few times until i get something i think sounds interesting>put it into the ai>if i like it i keep it, if it needs some small changes i can see it immediately without spending tons of time remaking a 3d model and just adjust until i get what I want. if it's bad i can just throw it away now instead of after spending time modeling.>once i'm happy i can make a 3d model of it why shouldn't i do this? picrel is a edgekino design of a devil ex-prisoner turned cop i just generated by doing this
>>580316574enemies to lover slop right out of a "dark romance" book
>Play a video game>"I really like these mechanics, but not those mechanics"... and that's how you make your own game.
>Why do all indie games look the same? All these devs do is reinvent the wheel and copy each other.>No, I don't look for new games on Steam, I just comment on posts from publishers and marketing agencies that will only invest in an idea they've seen before that they think has a guaranteed return. Why do you ask?
>>580316574If you can make it look good in 3D then sure.
>>580316523Based and testetestest my bitch pilled
>>580316574People haven't swallowed their pride yet and think that scribbling for 3 days will somehow produce a better result than experimenting with dozens of variations in less than 30 minutes
>>580316574Looks like a character from modern yaoi.
>>580317627>homogenization already a huge problem in gaming >standing out harder than ever >sloppers have the bright idea to all start sourcing the same exact designs toolol
>>580316523That's alright I don't feel like re-encoding them>>>/wsg/6230182
>>580317771>>580316930why do you know what those characters look like anon? suspicious...
>>580317803This the type a nigga to blow a fuse when you criticize calarts
>>580318230>why do you know what those characters look like anon?if you somehow manage a gf, you'll understand.
>>580318230I'm a woman so ofc I know what those characters look like.
>>580315784crimson desert studio is making DokeV next which is kinda this
What if I release my demo and everyone thinks the game is shit?
>>580318359then unshit it
>>580318245calarts is a plague too, what a strange extrapolation.
decremental game where you start with 1000000000000000 debt
>>580318512>what is animal crossing
>>580318359You try again, better luck next time>>>/wsg/6230185
>>580318512already a thing by a youtube dev, but it's rogue slop
pixel art game where you kill high-res sprite monsters that are out of place with the aesthetic
>>580318512that's just incremental again
>>580318359what's more likely is almost no one will have any comments even if your game is in the top 10%
i still haven't found a game yet that captures botting in an old school mmorpg. leaving it on all night and waking up next morning to check if rare loot dropped. incremental games dont have loot and also they have no real meaning cause they are too abstract. in an mmorpg that progress matters more.huge missed opportunity cause botting is so fucking satisfying.
>>580319097top 10% is like >100 reviews
>>580319176>leaving it on all night and waking up next morning to check if rare loot droppedclaude and codex with /goal
>>580319097True. I would gladly take 1000 chinese reviews calling it shit. That means they were interested enough to play in the first place.
>>580318358I think DokeV is just an open-world creature collector basically. It's not GTA. The only similar things they are both set in a city.
>>580318512if it's decremental then you should start with credit you dummy!
decremental game where you start as a nobody with nothing and no skills and your enemy is a kingdom with 100000000 gold and 10 million citizens. your goal is to destroy it all. no you are not the good guy.
>>580311350https://x.com/8co28/status/2097412340274934097
>>580319665skip the subtlety and just make a chud simulator, would be more successful
maybe i never have good ideas cause after just 2 ideas you tell me to stop idea guying. shut up and let me idea guying until i found a good idea.just do your shitty "just do it" game and let people with a brain have a thought process. thanks!
Why aren't you using AI to code for you, anon?
>>580312552I switch tasks.Cooking dinner, washing dishes, mowing the lawn, driving?Story and character development.Codex is busy working?Krita.Krita busy working?Codex.Both Codex and Krita are working?Putting my story and character development into writing and having my Marotte Story Room and Continuity Auditor tools ingest and map out the content.
>>580320035because I'm better at it
>>580313361Plenty of people are still making those games. The ones who eventually ship a playable game for the world to see are real-world adults with the money, resources, and connections to form a proper AA studio. The rest are mentally ill neverdev faggots like you and other retards here who will never ship anything and instead waste your days posting about your imaginary girlfriend on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving forum.
>>580313361I jeed money first. One too many of my dream games are RPGs. No way am I making those and they get few sales because of low skills. I need money so I don't have to wage and can practice and improve without fear of failure. No way am I making that mistake again and ending up in a 4+ year dev cycle.
>>580320196i bet you have 0 friends lol
>>580320035my skin is white
>>580320035If you can't be bothered to make something don't expect people to play it
What happened to this game?
>>580322116old man alucard based as hellthe dev died in a car crashI miss og aggy
>>580320714I definitely have more IRL friends than you. I went to a labor day barbecue on Sunday and I'm invited to a birthday party with a different group next weekend. Other pending invitations include a housewarming party early October and a Halloween party already.Now, who let you out of the locker, loser?
>>580322042So you don't use digital art tools?
what is it about ego losers that makes them feel like they need to prove themselves and get easily reverse interrogated from literally anyone that says anything about themso much ego
AI sucks. I wish I was born in the 80s…
>>580322927>make a ridiculous claim>someone pushes back>oowww ohh AAHHHH is anudda shoah!!
>>580322738I don't think you understand learning a skill to ask that
>>580323113you made similar claims in response to him though where yours seemed a lot more angry and serious while his seemed like he was memeinglow IQ socialization is disgusting, literally an ape race to prove themselves to each other
>>580322985I was born in the 80s. I've been programming since my early teens and made my first money from making an inventory tracking program for a local warehouse but I couldn't figure out how to load a bitmap and show it on screen so I couldn't make a game
anons will really just start fights over the silliest shit. maybe you should try getting a job or working on your game
>>580323684>maybe you should try getting a jobSo you can sit around bored in your office while shiposting on /agdg/. Sounds fun right?
>>580323814i actually work at a game studio and spend my day doing character models which translates to basically constantly doing my art reps. it's fun and i get better at my hobby and get paid for it
>>580323436All art is first and foremost a form of communication and socialization between different humans. If you're not able to socialize, you're never going to make it as a game developer.
is there a place like nyaa is for anime but for learning material? someplace people upload e.g. courses pertaining to gamedev?
>>580323973gamedev is not art, it's craft
>>580324108gamedev is not a craft, it is a labor of love
>>580323814>>580323960see how one guy ambiguously made implications of defensively identifying his qualifications by implying that he likely is doing that right nowand then the second guy does the same thing, identifying his social heirarchical position to this other guywhat's the point? you lose more than you are gaining
>>580324212gamedev is not a labor of love, it is rape, and the games are the offspring
>>580323993You can apparently find a lot of pirated courses on Bilibili. Surprisingly, you can find lots of art textbooks on sad panda, but most of those are untranslated Japanese.
>>580324246don't play with shit if you can't handle the smell.
What's the Gamedev equivlent of a Baker's Dozen?
>>580324212>anon didn't make enough of a game to start hating itmaybe it's better if you don't even know this
>>580324246I don't even get your point but I guess now you are asshurt because some have jobs?
>>580323439That’s cool>made my first money from making an inventory tracking program for a local warehouse No opportunities like this will ever come up again. My dad made $27/hr doing very basic windows installs and PC support in the 1990s
>>580324589you don't understand my point because it's something engrained into society and it's a serious problem, you expect me to do the same thing, and when I don't, you get confused and can't read between the linesgeneralising, obviously
Low to Mid Poly Models of various Fantasy Races running toward the Camera as Mist envelopes the screen.
>>580324720you provoke others and stir up shit then get mad when others react accordingly. you're just autistic and an idiot who doesn't understand that there are consequences to acting like a bitch and it's that people will give you shit for it.
someone make a new thread
thought i could get away with procedural animations & tweens for everything; now it seems i'll have to learn Bl*nder and animate things like an art*st to have arms with hands reloading a bunch of different weapon models :(
>>580324997see how you are attempting this ape-like communication with me right now, expecting me to prove otherwiseyou can show me where I provoked anyone though if you want to make that claim if you feel like it, but it doesn't really matter to me either wayhere's some examples for youif I say you're in mexico posting out of a library right now, how do you respond?if I say you have no job and no income, how do you respond?you respond by deanonymizing yourself to me or conceding, which then gives me more things to reverse interrogate from you
He still hasnt figured out I've been pasting his responses in chatgpt
don't forget to filter nodevs who have no interest in actually making games
>>580325252bodied that freak. you win this thread and as reward you get to make the next one
>responding to your own post because you didn't get (You)s for your "epic" response
>>580325478you make it, otherwise I'm going to make it... halloween themed
https://x.com/8co28/status/2097423580229521849
>>580325641everyone in the past 3 hours is only me, other than your own posts
>>580325252If you have something to say, just say it instead of beating around the bush like a millennialoid
>>580325870sure, here you go >>580322927answer whenevereverything since then is apes jumping all over
>>580325738Eager to see what the next wave of cope is
Making games sure is fun.
Happy my sovl levels keep increasing, chuddies.
>>580325738this is the nicest one I've seen, maybe the first time I'm considering making something with generated artwork
>>580220307just got my first follower on twitter - yeah, I'm kind of a big deal there, if you guys need a promo hit me up
Cris is the only ray of joy in this toxic thread.
>>580326332OINK OINK OINK
>>580326532me irl
>>580326213Good Job
>>580325252you're literally a 50 iq subhuman who should be put to death. there is no point arguing with you because you are simply too stupid to understand how arguing even works.
>>580327779>nothing to attack so he takes stabs in the dark out of anger
>>580327779>ad hominem
>>580328030Good argument. I consneed.
>>580326103sakura...
>>580328030>>580328208>"heh, you're a loser">"no retard, you're a loser">"REEEEE YOU ARE A MONKEY TALKING LIKE A MONKEY, HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? I AM SO ENLIGHTENED AND YOU ARE A FOOL. I CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU">posts charlie kirk reaction imagesi hate underage retards so fucking much. kill yourself timmy, or at least fuck off from this website until you turn 18.
make a real thread cris
>>580329737relax, loser
>>580330115shut up spineless worm
NEW THREAD>>580330626>>580330626>>580330626
>>580330346Nah, I'd win.
>>580329737kek, I did not realize pissing jeets off was this easy
