What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alonehttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1
TLDR on "Classic+" >89,99$ deluxe pre order package (Everything from the deluxe pack can be used in plus)>Two shop mounts >4 Shop pets>Multiple shop transmog sets and items>Shop tabard>Shop Toy>pay2win skyborne locked behind 25$>Cash shop will obviously get new additions overtime like the WoW token, more mounts and transmogs.>Horde paladin>Alliance shaman>Achievements>Automated Dungeon finder/LFG tool same as in retail>All menu settings, professions panels, talent windows and character portraits are from retail >retail graphics (with a toggle)>retail movement animations (with a toggle)>retail casting animations (with a toggle)>Transmog (with a toggle)>retail racials imported in, humans get a free pvp trinket etc>Level 30 items have the same power level as vanilla BWL gear>No box price to make sure that bot farms can enter easilyLooking like a dead on arrival flop to me. These are not things that can be fixed with a beta either.
im so excited bros
retail-
NO WRATH ANNI BUT WRATH REMIX FOR RETOILETANNI IS DEAD THEY FUCKING KILLED ANNI
Is there any word on if UI addons will be enabled?
Classic+!!! We won!!!!!!
i dunno about you famalams but i'm quite happy we finally got na'vi!i don't care if it's klingon or na'vi! talk nerdy to me!
>>580781702and you know this doesnt matter at all. if you come into 3 months late>oh no everyone is already 60cool, less competition in my quest zones>oh no everyones already biscool, more loot that few people need for me to take>you get caught up soonwhats the problem?
how many sleepies until forever???
>>580782060I wish human females look like this
>>580782031SEETHE CHANGCREATOR X DEV SHOWCASE COMING UP https://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryu
THREAD THEMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
>Could have had ogres, nagas, murlocs, furbolgs, centaurs, kobolds, worgens, gnolls, draes, goblins, or even fucking pandas>Instead we got blue elvesT-thanks
blizzard is already planning to abandon forever, theyre launching a fresh to tide you over until they paste pandaria onto the map and charge you 60 dollars for it
>>580782102
Goblinbros........Draeneibros.....
Anyone know if Druids get feral attack power on weapons or are they just stat sticks again?
>>580782031
>>580782124It's the same as the current Retail system from all the streams I've watched so far, so unfortunately pretty shit.
>>580782257>DraeneibrosTHEY GAVE YOU BLUE ELVES WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPY
human male paladin
>they actually called it "Forever"wow at least they aren't making totally stale soulless uninspired work.
>>580782257legit only thing im upset about no fem draenei. no ass slider for skyborne. i need them thick
>>580782196>furbolgs>worgens>gnolls>or even fucking pandasnot slick
>>580781945so retailminusissies, what race/class combo are you rolling on november 4th?
>>580782102Wrath remix? pog
>>580782339what spec...
>>580782339nice, could always use more healers on the server!
TBC and MoP died for Retail-I hope you enjoy it...
>seal twisting is back
Total schizo doomer death. Now and forever. Bloomer sane anons, rise up. I hope you have fun come november, I know I will.
>>580782390Male. Human. Warrior. Bald.
Will there still be enough healsissies in forever?
Not even private servers were so deranged to add their deviant art fanfic elves
>>580782124Zero chance they ever disable addons. It would require an enormous overhaul of the way the game UI works. Even if they implement a lock, people will just unlock it... like they already do for exploits. And then because both exploits and addons then go into the same pile, you get a bunch more players exploiting as a result. For proof of this see FFXIV.
boy, classic+ really wasn't being made for me.
>>580782328elves shouldn't be blue and they look nothing like Drae
>>580782406Undead mage i imagine
i was too farted and sharted and gooped and hyped and zoinked and blitznarded for classic plus. did they say the giant expansion would be the last retail expansion or something? is it really over for retail?
>>580782168You should know how this goes with MMOs, people don't like being behind. There's not only 40 man raids either, at launch there's Onyxia for the 40 man and then a 10 and 20 man, there's not going to be as much room for people to find groups later into the expansion when the majority of raids they're releasing are 10 and 20 mans. The uphill struggle of gearing and finding a guild is much greater after the launch period.
nelf stacy supremacy is back
>>580782031testaments
>>580782196The only half decent races to add would be gobbos, half’s and ogres, goats too believe it or not>furblogsNigger what?That said Drenai are vanilla lore they are acceptable as a playable race
>>580782257OC sky elves over fucking Goblins or Pandas, two races from WC3, is certainly a choice.
blizzard shouldve just done the prequel wow, not whatever this forever slop is
>>580782328I make my Draenei the less-blue shades thoughbeit
>>580782296I can't defend the sex elves costing $30. I'm just not shameless enough. Game looks good otherwise, though. Especially after having seen all of the talents. Wish they'd done a little more with Elemental's gameplay, but it could be worse. Fulmination or Lava Surge to make the rotation a little more engaging would have been nice, though.
>>580782509A quarter of the horde will be undead paladins
this legacy system shit looks extremely soulless
>>580782102>>580782432It's ok we can level in FOREVER together. Learn to let go
>They stole the "camping" stuff from Turtie
>>580782552>they look nothing like DraeClose enough to capture the same group of players
BLIZZARD! THINK OF THE 13K JADED BOOMERS RUNNING ONY GDKPS ON THEIR 234TH ALT!!!! THINK OF THEM!!!
>Everything should feel as though it fits and makes sense to exist in Classic>Everything should feel as though it fits and makes sense to exist in Classic>Everything should feel as though it fits and makes sense to exist in Classic
>>580782582why does this feel more like sod garbage than an actual proper classic +?
>>580782296>>580782031>children and poor fags complaining about paying money for countless hours of entertainment How much should blizzard charge for your entertainment? Nothing? It should be free for you?
>>580782582Sounds like a projection of a made up problem that isn't really a problem. I have started late in every single fresh since 2019. >original classic launch>tbc classic launch>wotlk classic launch>anni classic launchall started late. I got caught up and found a raiding guild all within 1 month of hitting max level.
>>580782102SUFFAH wr*th babbies!
So is this just classic wow but for roleplayers and women?
can't wait for the inevitable swathe of paladins pissing and shitting themselves that they aren't top of the wowlogs website (dps of course because fuck healing on the healing class)also the whole "uh aggrend warriors are still op why didnt you nerf them" ala sod. its so tiresome.
>>580782718>capture the same group of playersIt's a 5ft skinny elfHow am I supposed to play my giant demon futa bitchbreaker in these conditions?
theres no fucking way you niggers are gonna have 4 threads on /vg/
half this thread is thirdie pserver seethers or niller rmters the other half is ploos enjoyerstestaments
>game is soulless shitnever saw it coming
A BLUE NIGGA THAT'S THE SHIT I DON'T LIKE
>>580782819>can't wait for the inevitable swathe of paladins pissing and shitting themselves that they aren't top of the wowlogs websiteThis but grounded in reality, so warriors.
>>580782582Who cares about raids? I’m 40 I just like comfy leveling my toons in RPG ways
>they gave aoe heals to hpalare we playing it or nah?
>>580782819>healing classThe only healing class is priest as two of its three specializations involve healing. Paladin has a tank and DPS spec
>no era freshim out
WHY DID SHE POT
>>580782921deal with it... FOREVER!!!
>>580782432>retail- and retail- died for retail-
Do hunters have a dead zone?
>>580782903You're not the player it's targeting. It's for the "girl" AFKing in Stormwind with "her" slutmogs.
we could have had amani trolls. highelves. goblins. naga. ogres(too big? then why do tauren exist?)we got avatar.
>>580782031ay caramba
Give it to me straight - Is there no anniversary WOLTK?If not, why should I even bother logging into TBC when it will be completely fucking dead in like a month.SOD ending was exactly the same; after the announcement that Scarlet Enclave was the finale, it died in 6-8 weeks.
cookin up my charactor list for WoW Forever. HArd to choose some charactors but I am sure that I want to make a Sky Elf Male Arcane Mage and a Night Elf Male Restoration Druid.
It occurs to me, that reading this general is probably not the best for a normal person. So many fucked up in the head autismo 4000 mongoloids ITT blasting away with the most insane retarded doom and gloom opinions.
>>580783025Cant she do that on a femnelf or a femtroll tho?
>>580782963they have no clue what they're doing they're removing class identity and interdependency and they have this dogshit retail aesthetic on everything, don't understand itemization or scaling or anything really.
>>580782601Pandas are gay >>580782774You can turn on low res character models Also Night elf’s already have gay pink and purple hair
>>580782963nah i'm playing rdruid or rshaman, riptide makes the latter fun
If you Q LFG as a skyborne Im never inviting you to my groupsgo play as alliance you stupid blue faggot
>>580783053Classic WoW is going to be completely dead. Just write it off at this point.
>>580782951warriors always find a way>the monumental asspain from niggerdins when warriors still found a way to be top dps with the paladins weapon - the assbangerthe white mans class marches on!
They need to add arenas to WoWF, battlegrounds are boring as fuck.
>>580782774>we don't want people to make white characters>let's make BLuE SpAcE aLiEnS!!!
>>580782924Definitely describes the ever receding population this will appeal to. Have fun!
>>580782582>1 month till raids>in muh classic where "leveling journey is what actually matters"Have I turned into a boomer if I think 1 month is a short time for 1-60 and getting ready for raids
>>580783216Objectively it's the opposite actually
>>580782031wait so you don't actually need to buy anything if you don't wanna play as a smurf elf? that's cool I guess
>>580783157Yes but woman have terrible taste when it comes to the sexier races
>Man I can't wait to play classic+ and see the old world I remember but with improvements, maybe they'll make Uldum a raid or make Gilneas its own zone? I wonder if Goblins will be playable?>Anyway here's our brand new oc donut steel sky elves that have never been mentioned or even hinted at in any wow media that has ever existed, trust us bro they were actually hiding in their magic sky island this entire time but nobody ever noticedGenuinely how did we get here
>2 years in>content grinds to a half due to low population>put onto maintenance mode for a little while before shutting down.
>>580783168>Pandas are gayWtf did you just fucking say about me you little bitch?
>>580782582>40 man raids
>>580783262honestly, with these new zones the exp rates are probably jank and you can get 60 in a weekend
>>580782798The fact that so much of the fan base considers the leveling to be jsut groundwork for the actual game aka raiding IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH MMO’s Most people don’t have the time or energy for complex raids and never ending gear maxing which is why these games have their pops drop by 80% after a year and then cater only to hardcore raid core fans
>>580783216Battlegrounds have always been my favorite form of PVP
>>580783205I really do hope warrior is top dog so all parsetrannies still flock to it as always.
>High Elves are too white>Blood Elves are too white>let's make blue space aliens to replace the whiteness
>>580782031xD
Reminder to paladins that you will put on the dress and pass all 2handers to real dps classes.
Sneedvun status?
>>580782641>retail buttonmash slop talents would make things niceGo and stay go.
I can't wait to mailbox dance with my new skyelf
>>580782582this is false if the game is a success
>>580783424>>580783418?
>>580782798The difference here is that they are taking a break in the middle of leveling, not choosing to start leveling later and then following through. It leads to a different mindset and GTA 6 will be a long game, they might still be playing it when raids are out and they're still level 40. They are most likely not going to start to play WoW again after that because the habit was already broken and again, if GTAO2 is announced then it's just over.There will be some people that buy OoT over playing Forever. There will be an astounding amount of people that leave to play GTA 6 instead. Those people aren't going to come back, they will move on to the next FOTM game.
>>580783262Depends how much you can play a day. 1-60 through questing with the occasional dungeon is like 100-150 hours.
So no wotlk classic 2 this year? Damn, I was waiting for it.
>>580783129Yes they are fags but you must remember these games are their entire lives instead of just a fun hobby so they get big mad about it
>>580783389pug vs pug is peak, premade vs premade can be fun. premade vs pug or vice versa is some of the most boring bullshit ever
OMG i can’t wait to play…get this…a HUMAN HUNTER. plus plus plus plus plus plus plus
>>580783413they made high elves and blood elves like 80% black in retail, so that doesn't explain it.
Damn it was really boring and uninteresting that the factions had entire classes unique to them which differentiated them, let's remove that!
Is there any collection of the updated talent trees yet?
>>580783374yeah, which is why im excited for this forever thing, if they truly are focusing on an evergreen, no rush to lvl game, then thats based. i wanna go chill and level up maybe run a dungeon get some shiny new leveling item, then hop off and go hit the gym. ill raid when i hit max level sure, but im in no rush. those raids wont go anywhere, and when the average player has 2-3 alts, there will ALWAYS be raid groups to join and see the raids and get loot.
>High Elves look white so they can't be in the game
Anyone know where I can preorder gold?
>>580783418>greengrim
>>580782921woah, so this is blizzard's bigbrained plan all along
>>580782783We pay a thing called a monthly subscription that comes out to 150+/per year lol. There is no way to defend a cash shop in a game that has a monthly sub. Only if the game was F2P could you justify it.
>>580783360it's 1 single 40 man raid and it's fuckin onyxia which takes 20 minutes max. idk what guilds are supposed to fucking do when you have 3 different raid sizes man lmao.
any talent trees yet?
>>580783418Those stats are way higher than other shit from that level that I saw on stream. Seems like a fuck up. Certain spells are also way overturned. Not really encouraging only 7 weeks out from release.
https://www.youtube.com/live/BAsMFcHkM6Utime for the heckin forever creator showcase
DUNGEON SHOWCASEhttps://www.twitch.tv/warcrafthttps://www.twitch.tv/warcrafthttps://www.twitch.tv/warcraftMAGE POVhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryu
>>580783424undead paladins will get to crusader strike but alliance ones will still have to don the dress.
>>580783598I think they dont want to deal with the obvious balance issues that will resultBy the way, have they said anything about faction balance? pvp/pve server policy? war mode?
>>580783262No bro I play ESO and (turtle till it died) and swtor I make very thematic toons and level them a few levels at a time and switch to the other so they all are about the same and I experience the whole story scores all factions at the same pace I can spend months getting to level 40
>>580783223You can make them white. Skyborne is their retarded solution to the blood elf/high elf crowd
>>580781753I've never heard of that distinction between how the light is used, but even then it feels like semantics. Both classes wield the light, undead feel pain but adapt to it and become masochistic in nature. Sounds reasonable enough, also> Sir Zeliek, a paladin in life, so strong in his faith, that even in undeath, the power of the light still heeds his call, smiting his foes in battleI know it's a singular example but it's in the game and you could just write it off as your character being exceptionally faithful paladin as well
>>580783615>>580783712it’s just fucking retail abilities in classic
>>580783360>>40 man raidsYeah, the best part about vanilla. And the only reason this dogshit isn't DOA.
>>580783576Yeah that occured to me, I had a brief moment when I tried to see their PoV. And I guess if I didn't have the gym, work and a girl I'm dating, I took would be fucking fuming that the one thing in my life isn't exactly how I wanted it. I'm normal, so if it flops or I dont like it, I will shrug it off and go back to only caring about my actual life. They will be left shattered and lost, with no direction. Kinda sad.
>>580783778retail abilities are good though?
chinese centuryNodusfall clears blizzshitclassic+ went for corporate dei tumblr aesthetics instead of pulp magazine conan sexy and now it will die
>>580782582>Game specifically made to cater to levelers with planned content to be added to the leveling experience>"Its the journey not the destination">AAAAAH I HAVE TO GET TO ENDGAME AS FAST AS POSSIBLEI mean, you are right that people will do that anyway but that doesn't mean that these retards should be designed around.
>>580783168Say that to my face fucker and not online and see what happens>Just realized Pandaren are probably older than like half of the people ITT
>Seal Twisting>The only option if you wanna play retFUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF>oh bro it's so much better than just auto attacking, now you auto attack but need to watch a swing timer addon
>>580783692>do onyxia>split into 2 groups>do 20man>split into 2 groups again>do 10man
>>580783626You can make the sex elves white. >>580783712Xaryu went through them all on stream if you want to read them in the most mind numbing way possible.
>>580783692onyxia is probably pub slop as its easy, but splitting 10/20 is aids, wasnt that a problem in sod? they went from 10 to 25 all of a sudden and back down
>>580783312>donut steal What?
classic+retail
I'm actually laughing like a maniac at the prospect that Classic is effectively dead. No one will slurp that shit again.Also, we are getting cooler things than retail. They are already fuming at Undead Paladins and Second Names.Average Andys, the sweaties lost.
>>580783418so PvP is confirmed to be a disaster where health pools cannot absorb the damage within a reasonable 'time to kill' window and they will need to do a band-aid 20-30% pvp damage reduction and dampening effect?This is one of the main underappreciated things that WoW had. The mobs in you killed in the world has similar stats to what you had as a player. Yes it didn't scale at all into Naxx, but at least for 98% of the damage the mob to player power was somewhat in check.>>580782031>Looking like a dead on arrival flop to meIt won't be DoA, but it will probably be struggling after 6 months.
>>580783869Even SoD gave you an alternative to twisting. Surely they'll do that here.
>>580781945Okay but why do I have to pay 60 goyim bucks to play in a beta. The beta should've been included in the $30 price tag but I guess the schnoze on the executive producer should've told me everything.
warlock talent tree made by a brave lad from lock siscordhttps://omegahelixwow.github.io/warlock-classic/
What class should I play if I want to be a cute healbot?
what was blizzard thinking?
>>580783587You forgot the gigachad image.
>>580783869Prot actually looks fun but I would sooner hang myself from the rafters than play this version of Ret.
>>580783869>not just holy shock machine gunningngmi
>>580783869The dressYou will wear it
>>580783869there is no swing timer addon needed you fat retard it's literally in your face. 2nd. why aren't you using a swingtimer addon as a melee class regardless.
>>580783943It's an ancient play on the term "Original Character, Do Not Steal" how fucking new are you
>>580784016>buy into beta>oh its actually shit>blizzard successfully scammed you out of 60 instead of just 15
>>580783869LMAO YOU THOUGHT YOURE GETTING CRUSADER STRIKEenjoy seal shitting
>>580783869retard
>>580783968>Also, we are getting cooler things than retail. They are already fuming at Undead Paladins?
>>580783829Doesn't adding retail style abilities and rotations sort of neuter the flow and design of classic wow's philosophy?
>even reddit is shitting on skyborne0% chance they remove them still
>>580783750Yeah if they had designed the classes to be mirrors and totally even from the get go it would be fine but they didn’t which means for the sake of balance you need at least some way to play every class in each faction
>>580783869esfand is to blame for that
>>580784145You get holy strike though
>>580784041Gnome Priest. You WILL be a cunnybot.
If im a paladin and the 2 friends im playing with are dps, should i spec healer or tank?
>>580783834Classic devolved into speedrun metafaggotry, those players are gonna keep doing it and then they'll get bored when they have to wait 3 weeks for raids to unlock.
>>580782251they look like void elves from retail
you guys aren't the skyborne audience, it's for the shop transmog buyers. the female draenei/belf players. get over it already.
Guys wheres the new optimal exp route to 30 guys what is the new meta guys give me build guys what new dungeons should I ignore guys where did the fun go
>>580783750>By the way, have they said anything about faction balance? pvp/pve server policy? war mode?it seems when you login you select pvp, pvp, roleplay or hardcore
>>580784171they'll get reskinned as high elves
>>580783968>Also, we are getting cooler things than retail. They are already fuming at Undead Paladins and Second Names.Why would they?
Dorf ShamanDorf PriestorHuman Paladin
>>580784118I’m the opposite I’m very very old
>>580784145They did it it. It's just called Holy Strike instead. >>580784167One button rotations were never good. There's not a single rotation in Forever that's even WotLK levels of complexity. It's more like they brought everything up to around the gameplay of TBC Shadow Priest.
How long till Naxx?
I have no friends anyway so I'll just play a huntard
The stages of the schizophrenic retard of cope to seethe>haha no one will play this its DOA (cope)>I cant believe people are playing this (denial)>WHY ARE PEOPLE PLAYING THIS?! WHY ARE THEY HAVING FUN?! (seethe)>*plays the game* (cope again)
Has anyone shown Shaman yet?
>it's literally just dalaran from wotlk>as a dungeonLol. Lmao even.
>dalaran dungeon is alliance only then turns to a city>>580784408itll be the very last patch or whenever they want to implement scourge
>>580784171The issue is will skyborne elves have HD textures only or will toggling the SD texture give them TBC blood elf textures?
>>580784167You fell for the streamer psy op that this was Classic+.
so how are they solving the sweatie, bot, auto ban and thirdie problems?
>>580784429who are you quoting?
i checked out some of the streamers at blizzcon (yeah, i know)esfand particularly wants to say he doesn't like it. the chat is saying as much. all the hype seems so manufactured. nobody wants this shit other than retailslop enjoyers
>>580784457… so? Did you expect them to add a city at random?
>>580784416I played fem nelf huntard in SoD, might just repeat that.
>>580784361RP'ers have wanted second names for two decades
Will redridgeguy move to forever? Tinyviolins?
>>580784041play with my dick faggot cutie
>cameltards thought blizzard would launch a huge europa universalis type eastern kingdoms with 16 orc race variations and human kingdomsLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL enjoy sky smurfs
HOW THE FUCK IS THERE NOT A WORKING CALCULATOR YETDOES WOWHEAD NOT HAVE ONE MOTHERFUCKER AT BLIZZCON WHO COULD REPORT BACK OR SOME FUCK AT HOME SKIMMING THROUGH STREAMER VODS AND DO IT ITS THE SAME FUCKING ICONS HOW HARD IS IT TO CHANGE THE FUCKING JAVASCRIPT
>>580784542>ignore the problem
>>580784563if you talk bad about daddy blizz you get blackballed
lmao, this mohamed got a little chunky. too many chickpeas with a side of hummus me thinks.
>>580784575I think it's funny that they're already recycling content at release.
>>580784449Xaryu did. Elemental rotation is just WotLK rotation (except LvB has damage increased by FS instead of autocrit), Enhance is 2H with Stormstrike that isn't shit and looks like it can also tank (poorly), and Resto looks mostly the same but gets Riptide.
are they really acting like we've never seen dalaran before lol
not watching that sh*tskin
>>580784590Hunter talents look fun to me, melee huntard might be a meme but it's a meme I wanna try. BM gets crows which is cool
>>580783168>You can turn on low res character modelsyou actually can't with the skyborne.
Rogue seem really fucking bad>Blind made a Poison to get dispelled>new talent tree capstones look horrible like the poison buff one that does zero (0) damage and is just maintenance upkeep>no cloak or shadowstrike gap closers>blind and vanish back to being 5 min CDs
>>580784660calm down staysafe...
>>580784563I think it was a mistake to do the sky elves They could have done the same gimmick but have high elves split between horde and alliance Hord elves = blood elves Alliance elves = high elves or some other clever name idk
>>580783035but anon, they are keeping the spirit of classic in Forever
How long before I can buy the restedxp 1-60 speed run guide for forever
>>580784660That's a Portuguese male my friend.
>>580784665Classic+ without Dalaran would have been weird
>>580784637wowhead is run by ai now thats why the guides are so bad
>>580784660Jesus christ Ziqo dont they have ozempic in sweden?
anyone got the feral talent tree?
>>580784675Dalaran? That place encased on a bubble? never seen it
>>580784660really putting the o in ziqo, ziqO, even
where is the hunter talent treegive it to me
>>580784754ARYAN CHVDS have never played past TBC doe
>>580783035>ground onlyyikes
>>580784769>minigameroof. Sub looks really fucking good as does assa
>>580784848LISTEN HERE IM GONNA GET MY VIRGINS IN HEAVEN BY MY PROPHET OK? I DONT NEED TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE RN.>eats more chickpeas and hummus
>>580784665>using the original game world and adding more too it >but you can’t use assets from future expansions even when it would make sense in the Dalaran situation You are grasping bro
>>580784637Funny thing is Claude could do it in 5mins but why bother when some other retard will have one up by tomorrow.
>>580784768Inb4 they already made them but are waiting to enable it to "show us they're listening" while continuing to charge 30 fucking dollars to play them.
>>580784784maybe they wanted to side step the debate on blackwashing them by just making a new race that can change colours apparently.
>>580782712camping has been a thing since everquest you fucking retarded nigger
>>580784660what league of legends does to a mf'er
>>580784784They were just trying to come up with a way to have draenei and blood elves in the vanilla (even of both races existed during the first year of WoW) so they decided to make blue blood elves. I'm actually surprised they didn't design skyborne? sky something? whatever the names is, sky elves with horns and maybe even hooves in mind.
>>580784769fuck rogues fuck niggers
>>580784935sub looks p crazy. wonder if rogs will be able to compete with woyers at the top of dps now
>>580784769we're not doing this fuck you
Ziqo? more like Thiqqo
>>580782712Turtle stole everything from WoW
>>580784784>Why did they do sky elvesShe wanted her 'OC donut steel' in the game
>>580784935how does assa look good? mutilate aint even that great requiring 60 energy
what really kills me is that they had so much to go off on, so many different servers literally overflowing with good ideasand they settled on the most dogshit milquetoast generic garbage possibleeven the things they copied from TWoW like camping could've been made into some cool RP adjacent thing, but no it's a fucking sleeping bag that you lay down in the middle of the road for a minute and then fuck offsomeone already said it but this appeals to absolutely no oneit's not Retail enough for Retailfagsand it's not Classic enough for Classic Andy'sit's just slop from here and there packaged into one big smelly shit
>>580785004>he thinks these zoomer kiddies have any clue what EverQuest is
>>580783943holy newfag
QT ALERT>QT ALERTTHIS IS NOT A DRILL
>>580784660>oziqopic
>>580785105>meanwhile some random retard with 0 budgethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ZEbEcpcvEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYIQYkAZ79I
>>580782031>look guise im LE MASTUR TROLEFucking pathetic.
https://www.twitch.tv/warcraftwho is this blonde bimo with the nice legs
imagine if they just steamroll the dungeon
ZIRENE AKA BIG Z ON THE STAGE
>>580784769>>blind made a poisonthats how it was always meant to be and that they made it a physical debuff in tbcunt was the biggest mistake ever
>>580783262we're playing magie and spellcleaving lil bro
>>580785093Mutilate has always cost 60 energy dipshit. Hasn't kept it from being good in the past.
>>580784958ENOUGH OF YOUR FEAST AHMEDBY CHRIST IS MY WORD I WILL MAKE YOU RUN AGAIN
I will NOT be allowing any elves into my dungeon/raid groups
>>580785201Barny64
>shipping for the EU collector edition is 200 € on a 150 € game (wanted to check the price because I like the statue)why?
>>580784958wtf is that Tips Out
>>580783990Everything I've seen so far(i.e Rockbiter, tank seal) is just a kick in the dick for any theory crafter or build maker. There is exactly one way to use the new stuff on one specc and you will not get some situational utility out of of off-specc spells and talents.So no, there will not be an alternative. You will seal twist with a slow 2hander and you will like it.
>>580784958staysafe got the last laugh, left wow behind and now is raking it in as a political slop commentator
>>580785020I don’t understand hey not just include quelthalas and azuremyst When did tbc come out ? Like 2007?When most people talk about classic they actually mean everything from Lich King and earlier so frankly both those races would have been fine I was actually expecting that + goblins and alliance race they’ve been working on this for like 8 years they had the time lol Like why don’t the gnomes and trolls get their own real cities too ???
new customization options
It cracks me up that they had the audacity to add a brand new made up elf race completely against the spirit of what literally anyone said classic+ should be and paywall it. The worst part is sloppers will eat it up.
Someone thought she looked good enough to impregnate? lmao
>>580785253kek this would be amazing if we could make this a thing
>>580782102I was just trying to explain this to normalfag dadgamers in guilds the last two months and they were totally convinced Classic+ would happen after WoTLK completed.
>>580785409real?
>classic is about preparation guys!>classes deal 1 trillion dmg with wotlk balance in classic contentincrediblethe first hc lvl 60 character will appear in like 2 days after release lol
I told you niggers, they would NEVER give us Ogres or Naga before retoilet
>>580784958>made wow his entire personality>got dabbed on by a casual rper
Skyborne are lame, but everything else looks cool at least. What's with the forced bitching?
>>580785365>Like why don’t the gnomes and trolls get their own real cities too ???Classicfags seethe REALLY hard when you allow people to hang out in any city that isn't SW/IF/Org/UC/TB. No one hangs out in Darnassus, though. Too out of the way.
>>580785093Muti + new capstone and poison synergies, poison crit and hitrates etc baked into talents. It's all about the numbers now, but the synergy is all there
>>580785365They will sell us the expansion+ later with extra races
bring her back out. it's the only way to salvage this whole thing
imagine you get invited to blizzcon as part of your job, and this is how you show up. like you are going to the store to get milk.
>>580785546shut the fuck up alex.
>>580785515Why should anyone give a shit when some freaks blast to level 60 as fast as possible Who cares?
>>580785527nobody wants your funserver bullshit races
CAWCAWCAW
>>580785546It's retailfags poisoning the well because if Forever succeed, retail is dead and all their cash shop mounts and mogs become worthless
https://www.twitch.tv/loltyler1
>>580785623bro they have fridges full of milk at blizzard
>>580785496yeah it's real on private servers because blizzard would never>>580785546>made up retail race>paywalled
>>580785546I think it's a reverb effect from general disappointment. People really fell for the WOW 2 shit, as if Blizzard still makes new games. So now they're just kind've sour. But they'll fucking play, we know we'll all fucking play the fucking game
>>580785676That's pretty cool.
>>580785546>why are fags on 4chan bitching That’s what we do here
>father...is it over?>at long last, no game rules forever my son>i see.. only microtransactions.. before.. me
>>5807855462retail4me
>>580785623that may be the most unattractive person I've ever seen.
>>580785623Oh no not a nerd at a video gaming con
>>580785570You think they gave a fuck about pissing off classicfags with what they announced?
I don't think they should do this type of showcase ever again
>YOU WILL PLAY IT ANYWAYMaybe you will, but I won't.
Who told me to watch this scuffed dungeon run? Also why is Tyler1 there isn't he a league player and the guy who pissed off all the people in the streamer only guild calling them overgrown babies?
this stinks of SoD, likely will die just as it did too.
Tomorrow is the Deep Dive. I think that'll be cool.
>>580785365The sky elves as a cash shop unlock is a bad omen. They know players want all these things and will sell them as micro transactions especially seeing how well received this has been.
>>580785623>matching beige socks to go with my beige personality
>>580785570If they don’t make the cities bigger I’m going to be pissed You can call em a retailKiddie but the bigger storm wind is great with the port and everything >>580785584I’m sure of that
Is armored proficiency back? Paladins won't be wearing dresses anymore??
do we know if the gear from the new raids will supersede gear from the og 40 mans mc bwl aq40 naxx etc or will they be like inbetween gear?
>>580785676hmmmtwo hawks, you say...hawk one... hawk...
>>580785879>>580785879ok
The problem is that Blizzard just cant' help themselves. Frankly this is the best we were ever going to get.(New) zones? Great1000 more quests? They'll probably be DEI infested shit but whateverNew spins on raids? GreatNew dungeons? GreatHorizontal progression at 60? Going to be incredibly scuffed and awful for a while but if they manage to figure it out, then great.New professions? FineTalent changes? We'll see but whatever, looks like more variety so far.And then you have Blizzards must haves>MUST look like Retail with a unique race to get Retairds into the game>MUST have dogshit corpo slop pre-order>MUST have pretty cross race faction race to get the trannies to play>MUST have transmog for the same reasonIn other words they're trying to optimize getting as many subscriptions from all sides which is going to bite them in the ass hard, and the only way this ends up working is if they suck it the fuck up and start catering to the Classic tards and them alone
>>580785879See you on thursday, nigger
>>580785683>cash shop mounts and mogsDon't worry, Forever is getting those too.
>>580785936me otr
>>580785884good chance of that
>white memerapper somehow has rez sickness for 10 minutes remaining when the groups ready to goscripted moment?
>>580785974>thursdayWhy would you blow your load on the beta? Just wait for the actual release instead of ruining it for yourself.
>>580785882tomrrow is the official DEep Dive.
>>580785968>1000 more quests?I wouldn't doubt 60% of these quests are AI generated.
Now I just need to groom a cute rogue to stealth gank all the no sh*e scum with on my nelfie druid
>>580785936the only 40 man at release is onyxia, there is no mc/bwl at launch and it looks like mc won't happen until summer>>580782582
>>580785623>>580785807>>580785904This exact type of man made all the “classic” games you people love so much including Warcraft Sit down and show some respect
Only thing I dont like about this is the UI. Hope there is an option for classic ui or addons come out quickly.
>>580785974>See you on thursdaynah I am just..... not gonna play it! I won't be playing LMAO
>>580786052NTA but ill jump on the beta just to check out talents, racials, very briefly and maybe figure out what ill main. not gonna do any quest content or dungeons.
>>580786052FOMO obviously
they built Forever for streamers. you're just a random nigger that they will farm for content. deal with it
>>580785968>Horizontal progression at 60?I 100% don't believe this shit. I see universe where the new raid gear will always be better than previous and they'll do occasional start squishes like in retoilet when things start to get out of hand.
>>580786085nah they presented themselves professionally in the past.
reminder that the portal isn't being closed.we're probably headed to the outlands in the next expansion
>>580786062blizzar has unionized and in their CBA it limits the use of AI
>>580786052I'm going to try to find some based people to play the game in beta for release. But I'm not going to pay $60 to play a beta so I'll be camping multiple streams that will obviously be giving away beta codes.
>>580786093Given that there's a beta, I expect add-ons will be ready to go before this bitch is even released in 7 weeks.
>>580784016Why do you need to pay 30 shekels to play recolored Blood Elf when both Blood Elf and Recolored Blood Elf alreadt exist?
>>580785968Honestly why I’d rather they had just kept dreani and blood elves The sky elf’s scream super modern non binary kiddie trash that infests modern rpg’s
the seething nillers in this thread just proves that they don't even play their own game. all they do is come to shit up threads in typical thirdie fashion
>>580786238and then all addons break because blizzard changes something and then repeat this every 5 weeks
>>580786158This is my only sincere concern. The idea of this system doesn't make any sense to me. A whole new area with ten long clean levels is not a bad system. They're going to engineer the entire game around newest raid product logging? No new talent tiers? Yikes
>>580785968The classes won't have build diversity so horizontal gear progression won't work. Each new tier will continue to invalidate the previous regardless of what they promise
>Succubus and incubuspozzed
>They Disney-fied the OG Vanilla Trailer
>>580786338>The sky elf’s scream super modern non binary kiddie trash that infests modern rpg’sexactly. takes the fantasy out of a fantasy setting.
>>580783943>>580784118>>580784395ngl I thought Donut Steele was like some furfaggots infamous OC or some shit, like the OC parody memes like Coldsteel the Hedgehog
>>580786173No the absolutely did not when all of your favorite franchises came out these dudes rolled up in tshirts and cargo shorts lol
bbmoneyfag is actually mentally handicapped holy shitthis is the exact reason wow is shit when they think inviting web subcelebrities is a good idea
>>580786438? theyre literally blue belfs. and you don't even have to make them blue. they look the same as shit released 20 years ago. holy chud
>>580786208>AI Guardrails: Microsoft cannot use generative artificial intelligence to automate or replace jobs without first negotiating with the union.They still can use it but they must consult them first. Also wow they did unionize that means they can churn out dogshit and not worry about their jobs. Grim.
>>580785546That'd right anon, everything exists in a vacuum and skyborns absolutely aren't a red flag for what's next
>they pulled one mob>they are already insufferablei had to switch this dungeon demo off, these streamer fags are so fucking annoying.
>>580786483these are the people blizzard listen to btw
WHERE IS WOLTK ANNIVERSARY??
you're laughing?you faggots killed ceegee, and you're laughing?
>soda doesn't know that a "male succubus" is called an incubustard.
IM YELLINGTHIS IS ENTERTAINMENT
>>580786426The Forever Cinematic Trailer was esoteric and profound.
>>580786426I suspect only Disney adults work at Blizzard now, every single thing they put out is just lame and gay.
>>580786173No they fucking didn't. Metzen wore metal shirts and guyliner and half the dudes there were in sandals and cargo shorts. Shut the fuck up when you don't know what you're talking about.
>>580786584I think most of us have realized by now that WOTLK actually sucked
>>580786626hes a 5ft tall midget, he has to yell to compensate.
UHOH STINKY
laughing at the dipshit D-list youtubers who all made copycat "Classic+ isn't being made for you" but it turns out yeah it was made for me, i love sloppy trash
>>580786065I miss her...
>we're putting the WAR back in WARcraft!>some gay shit about gay people in all the worlo trailers
>>580786536I hate streamers so much and I hate how they tie info about how the game works into them.
This dalaran dungeon run is the true classic expierience desu. Some retard is res sick, tank is retarded, 2 autistics and a foid healing.
>>580786617That's actually wrong. Male succubi are a thing. Incubus is a similar yet different demon
>>580786642ya the vanilla cinematic is so goodand they decided to turn it into the milquetoast ass dragonflight cinematic, the music is all wrong and retarded01/0
>>580786509>and you don't even have to make them blueother players will make blue ones shitting up the game world with blue nonbinary aliens
>parasocial trash
>>580786156So true anime reaction image poster
>>580786780Oh so just like TBC then
I'm all in if I dont have to make retarded macros for everything to actually play Warrior
>>580786690wheres the chang that always posted generals early? he has to clock into his shift prob
>>580785546>We're SO COMMITTED to the spirit of Vanilla and this is our PROMISE and DEDICATION to you with Classic+>Anyway, spend $30 our new race we just made up with no pre-established lore
>>580786509>they look the same as shit released 20 years agoWhy are you lying?
>>580786584Nobody is going to stop you from playing on your dead servers with 800 dad gamers.
>>580785307holy shit is that guy even alive
>all this shouting over each other for a level 29 dungeonthis would be done in silence in reality
>rogue energy doesnt tick anymore and just pumps up like retoiletjesus fuck soulless shit they killed the class
>>580786691this shit definitely wasn't made for me. I shall remain unsubscribed.
>>580786421shut the fuck up Sporkle
I'm legit mad about those blue abominations. They know there's a list of classic races that people have wanted since forever and they do this shit. They could have easily done high elves for the alliance and blood elves for the horde but instead we get avatar elves. Why? Just why? They don't fit at all in the world. They're a retail race forced into the old world. Whoever pushed for that shit in blizzard deserves anything bad that happens to them.
>>580786839it isn't supposed to be TBC.
>>580786878is this how normies play dungeons?
>>580786730This is the vanilla wow I remember...
>>580786908Fucking rude and what's your retort to what I said huh? Huh?
>>580786730the true classic experience. grouped up with a bunch of retards not knowing what to do and you're not sure if someone is griefing or just actually that dumb.>these are the people you play with
>>580786642this is explicitly meant to show the original character in a new place, I.E classic+, if you're too retarded to understand this basic symbolism I truly pity you
>>580786867This looks straight out of a 2005 WoW book, are you high?
>>580786867>looks like a combination of BElves and space goats >literally released 20 years agoActually it checks out.
>>580786878they have to make a spectacle.
>>580786509>theyre literally blue belfYeah and that's why they fucking suck.0 though, effort or time put into integrating a unique and interesting race, or simply developing one of the MANY races that already have a spot in the world.Instead it's just a recolor of an already controversial race that DOES have it's own deep history and lore.I GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE Skyfaggots intro/lore will start with>We've actually been here the whole time and are only now choosing to reveal ourselves!
>LOL I NEED XDcan't wait for thousand of casuals and newcomers to emulate this nigger
>>580787072blizzard probably said dont try and aoe pull the entire dungeon and make us look bad
>>580786936This was the single most perfect moment to finally add playable ogres, and of course they do yet another faggy elf race. Like cmon...
>frost mages have ice lanceyeah no it's fucking over they're going to dominate PvP like never seen before
>>580786735nah, you're wrong. just admit it, narcissist.
>>580786951Everyone loves TBC. The only reason it's bad for Classic is because Outland makes Azeroth look and feel like trash.
>>580786867you were the nonbinary elf this whole time
>>580787165>pvp in a non-competitive gameshiggy.
>>580787165now look at warlocksholy shit lmao
>>580787165I'd fear arcane too, arcane blast has been notoriously broken in many different timelines
>>580786936>They could have easily done high elves for the alliance and blood elves for the horde but instead we get avatar elves. Why? Just why?Because they couldn't charge money for something players get for free in TBC.
>>580787097But they already said that. They said they're elves that when the sundering happened they used elemental magic to escape into the sky lolSomehow everyone missed whole floating islands over them
>>580787124they're not that good
>>580786936It seems like an esoteric play. Blizzard baring it all just to show me a symbol.Yeah, I'd enjoy if they did High Elves for Alliance and Blood Elves for Horde in order to satisfy the Elven desire on both sides.But I like the Sky Elves due to their esoteric hint and also their lore is pretty darn good in of itself.
>>580786936I see it as a necessary compromise to-add funding to the game-appease the tranny tribe of the companyI'm not happy about it but I made my peace
>>580787271only tyler1 and bbnomoney are noobsthe other 3 are more than capable
Oh my god this gameplay is so slow why do we have to choose between this and retail now?
looking at the items that just dropped in this dung vs the level 34 2h giga healing mace. that mace seems overtuned as fuck
>>580787165What is this?
>no arena>no mythic plus>retoilet liteso uhh...why should i ditch my stable of characters on retoilet to play this pile of shit?the devs literally sac'ed 12.1 for this raging tire firefuck u cunts
>>580787379Retail is for zoomers, Forever is for boomers
>>580787201C+ is not intended to be TBC.
>>580787236So much SVVL in this little shitty screenshot from over 20 years ago, more than the modern Activision-Blizzard-Microsoft can ever come up with.... FUUUUCK I MISS BEING A MIDDLE SCHOOL RETARD
>>580787260Yes they can. Put the high and blood elves with a mog and a mount and a toy behind the paywall they had planned for the blueniggers and people would pay for it while not raping the lore
>>580787430LOL ROFL KEK LMAORetoilet LOST
>>580787457Good thing it isn't TBC then.
>>580787339not to the point of doing blind aoe pulls in a new instance
>>580782031Being contrarian isn't a substitute for a real personality. >Looking like a dead on arrival flop to meI'll bet you $10k WoW sets concurrent records (for WoW) when it launches.
dungeon looks real good. things aren't dying too fast even with updated kits. dps looks sensible or even kind of low. guzu highest dps at 32. in game dps meter looks good. i like the new minimap. overall looks real solid
>>580787515its a leveling dungeon
>>580787430>no arenatrue>no mythic plushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM
where can i view the new talent trees???
cool they already figured out a terrain abuse bug for mages to solo farm this with blizzard and sell boosts....
>>580787283>But I like the Sky Elves due to their esoteric hint and also their lore is pretty darn good in of itself.???????????
Dang that all that stuff looks pretty crazyAnyways I'll be rolling up an orc warrior once again
>"we just came up with another elf race">"elf shamans for horde">"forsaken paladins">waits for applauseof course nu blizzard would have a gay dwarf and bear frolicking in the fields
>>580787457>C+ is not intended to be TBC.>C+ is the original TBC>TBC is the C+ and C>there will be TBC+ in C+You literally can't spell TBC without C(+)
>dalaran dungeon for babies where you clearly have no way to pull 10 packs at the same time by accidentthat sewer would be swarming with bullshit patrols in actual vanilla
>>580786936Because it's literally the same designers who make retail oc disney fetish shit.Seriously, did you expect anything else from those people?
>>580783742It's fucking ogre, they are clowning the dungeon with no effort and doing the shitter.
>>580787457It's intended to be whatever the fuck Blizzard decided it should be. Which is this. Frankly I think it looks fun. >>580787481>while not raping the loreHorde BE already raped the lore you fucking moron. And I like BE's.
>>580787339>increased damage against X type creature racials>increased damage against X type creature itemsAm I nooticing a pattern
>>580787668imagine being a retoilet playing an entire game where that shit is all over the place, no escape from ityuck
Goddamnit theres like what fucking 4 WOW generals now presuming this place isn’t /wowcg/ rebranded.
Forever has the potential to kill retail for good.
>>580787616And what will you give ME in exchange for the link?
Blizz fucking hates High Elves lmao.
>>580787683they wiped to a big pack pull. they cannot aoe.
Someone buy me the Beta
>Streamers on the event side told this is basiacly wow 2 by staffLMAAAAAAAAAAOLITERAL RETAIL KEK
>>580787668I mean everything else they showed looked good.
warlock sisters we won
>>580787618Sky Elves are heavily esoteric symbol wise and the trailer also was. It was like Blizzard just blatantly telling me "we know." Yeah, Elves live in a place with all Clouds and no blue sky and send orbs down to worlds.World is about to end.
>>580786936they need something new and original so they could charge people money for it. why did you expect anything different from modern blizzard?
>>580787801>presuming this place isn’t /wowcg/ rebrandedIt will be once Classic dies.
>>580787610>some moron whining after playing for 40 hours>this is mythic plusmoronIMAGINE NOT HAVING ARENA
>>580787817OSRS didn’t kill Runescape 3, so this shit won’t kill Retail WOW.
wow i really want to play this online game where other players act like this
>>580787862They pulled half the fucking dungeon and died because the mage got the agroo because the tank is Tyler and he's fucking retarded.
>>580786936>They know there's a list of classic races that people have wanted since foreverYeah, no shit. And they intend to sell them to you at a later date when financially pertinent.
>>580787924I saw that, shit is obviously a UI bugIm happy it's not there honestly, the "pet tanking" version they have in the demo tree look much more itneresting
the sky elves are where thunderaan and al'akir come from in the $30 uldum dlc
So is it free for classic subscribers or do i need to buy this on release?
>>580788008they're acting like old classic WoW, even the mic quality sounds like Old Teamspeak.
skelf bear form being an owlbear is absolute kino. well done
>>580787869sent
>>580787829your daily meds
>>580788041If that was true why do they keep adding races nobody asked for in retail?
>>580787691this is their answer to horizontal progression. you'll get shit from the raids that are only useful against monsters inside that one raid.
>>580787691Horizontal progression when new raids come out and they are naga themed or robot themed. Instead of getting higher ilvl gear you just go get the gear that gives you temp power against said types. It's like the SE/Nax gear in SoD and how blizzard plans to keep you from "falling behind"
I can't believe they pulled another elf race out of their asses instead of just giving the Alliance straight up High ElvesI can't believe they are giving the Horde Elves instead of Ogres or GoblinsActually I can believe it, that's exactly what these retards would do
>>580787979WoW costs orders of magnitudes more than RuneScape to develop, so it's not the best comparison.It won't kill it though. At most it would just go into maintenance mode like every other MMO.
>>580787924>orcs immune to banes>wotf still in the game>tremor totem toolmao alliance finna boutta have 1% warlock pop again
>>580788073Same sub, but you have to pay $30 for the sex elves. >>580788078Owlcat form as well, kinda like the ones from Legion. Excellent choice.
>>580787959you are indistinguishable from the deeply autistic and tranny adjacent speedrunning community
>sap doesnt break stealth in FOREVERgamechanger it still procs poison so it might break if you use deadly though
SEXOOOOOO
Will there be guilds that don't allow sky elves? I will join one of those.
>have to pay $30 for access to name reservationthis is honestly the most absurd part
>>580788014just admit they're all shitnone of them can mage boost
>>580787959Arena is antithetical to what vanilla WoW is about.
>>580788130Because those are tacked on to expansions and expacs and not something they'll be selling for $30 a pop.
>>580787869If you'll be my ingame bf
why do you have to pay for a race?isnt this the scummiest thing ever why are you okay with this?
>>580788201human get EMFT
Never played on any classic server and stopped playing retail at the start of BfA, explain this forever thing to me please. Are all the old Dungeons still in and we get new ones on top or are the new ones replacing the older ones?
Cant imagine im more excited to see gw3 then thisMaybe beta change my opinion
>>580788345yea anon you're better than xaryu
>>580788370They're selling points for retail expansions that cost more than $30
>>580788417Nothing old is replaced. It's just new stuff being added.
>>580788327actually really pisses me off tbhqh>>580788381my worry is that if people don't push back on this, then it's going to be a pattern. >introducing: death knights! only $14.99
>>580788272She's about to join the Horde for exotic green, blue, bovine and stitched-together smelly BC (Fel elven and orge too if you purchase dlcs)
Whats your 2nd name gonna be?
>>58078807330 bucks little manat least for the race
>>580788242you don't know what you're talking about clown>>580788361why
be sad and demoralized or else...
>>580788117Only warlock one is up I think, wowhead will have em tomorrow allegedly.https://omegahelixwow.github.io/warlock-classic/
>>580788272>$30 + tip for a wod model belf recolor
What’s the worst wow fanart you’ve ever seen?
>>580787610holeee fucking troof nuke
>$30 to reserve the name Charlie Kirk
>>580788272wow! looks just like belfs! fucking retards complaining. there's 2 different skyborne cultures one went horde one went alliance.it's belf vs high elf said differently
>>580788480That's a whole fucking expansion. In ploos they'll be selling them on their own. You better fucking believe they'll make use of highly requested races to make MTX bux.
>>580788439in banilla? 100%
Remember when the ass blasted kikeslaves were saying that the mounts and other deluxe ultra package items would only be redeemable in Retoilet? I remember
what's the over-under on if they'll sell level boosts eventually?
>>580788509Surnames will be peak for RP servers
>>580788384That has nothing to do with my point about the warlock pop, it's always been abysmal on classic alliance and that trend will continue.
>>580788537the jailer but with a vagina getting fucked by futa sylvanas
if they keep 'forever' consistent like retail and don't spawn a million "fresh" servers like classic and split the playerbase, I might play it. I like the idea of a slower paced wow that isn't fomo maximum if you don't play 100 hours a week or miss a patch. and I like the simpler class designbut it'll never stop being funny watching classic retards infighting over this shit. you asked for classic+, here it is buddy eat up
>>580788640They need to fund the development of Classic+ content somehow. If they didn't do this it would be a guaranteed loss for them.
DALARAN IS REAL IT LOOKSL IKE OLD DALARAN HOLY SHIT. what's going to happen with the city tho
>>580788484Well thats a fuckton of dungeons then, theres no reason to do anything on the overworld if you dont wish to, damn
>>580788582It's literally the same model just with unique customization options. Most people will make them look like High and Blood Elves
>>580788537Definitely the LLM slop vulpera "art" I saw in /wowg/ last night.
>>580788640man this looks just like I remember classic
>>580784958blizzcon is probably the one place he can get pussythere are weird wow groupie girls
>>580788272she looks like a woman who's about to report you to HR
>>580788609No they won't. They simply want to add their own OCs.
>>580788272cant wait to rp with fem blue elves and dick em down with slash e commands
>>580788723What about people paying a subscription?
>>580782641>I can't defend the sex elves costing $30.There's nothing wrong with it
>>580787907>ruined the vanilla cinematic by turning it into cozy slop (bringing the war back in warcraft btw)>neutral oc blue elves (bringing back war in wacraft btw)>new zone is a shadowland asset flip>transmog>housingThe target audience is women. Sure Hyjal and Dalaran look good but as soon as they run out of vanilla scrapped content to rape, this will turn into retail 2.0. Nostalgia bait and switch
Retards, adding Skyborne was the correct pivot for Blizzard because>adding high elves to the alliancewould destroy faction balance, every server would be alliance dominated>adding blood elves to the hordewould mean they have no models to reuse for high elves for the alliance so they'd opt for a different race, again causing faction imbalance>adding ogres or goblins to the horde, high elves to the alliancewould again, destroy faction balance. no one wants to roll either race and alliance would dominate every serverSkyborne is unironically a good alternative because it gives the highest probability of faction balance
>>580788758>im just gonna farm DUNJUNZ to 60 then raidlog>bro why does classic + suck wtf theres nothing to doLiteral nigger.
>>580788763there's some actual retard up earlier in this thread complaining that his belfs were not nonbinary but these were. nostalgia rotted brain
>>580788272>Belfs but smaller titsTranny race.
>>580788439>>580788637he just used AE on arcane elementals ffs
>>580788523transition in 10y max
>>580788674cmon bro be real
>>580788674highreally surprised they didn't put early access in, like actually shockedya you can piggy to res your name but thats less egregious from my point of view
>>580788815Those just pay for server upkeep, not the creation of new content. It's only $30. That's what. 4 fewer trips to Starbucks you can make?
>>be me ret pala>names Slayer, Blackz Slayer
>>580788272>lets charge people for an asset they already have free free on another version THEY REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA KEKKITY
>>580782060when can i play this in wow
>>580788893whats outside of dungeons, lazy copy-paste fetch quests?
>>580788815They're already paying a subscription.>but new subscriptions!There won't enough new subscriptions to cover the cost. There just won't. Do the math.
>>580787236>>580787469It’s amazing people pretend like wow looks great Back in 2007 me and all my gamer bros constantly shit on wows art style this was when “super realistic graphics” were all the rage and wow looked like a cartoon
>mfw they probably already made billions selling the beta heroic edition
>580788907>haha bro look I said the buzzword that'll get me (you)sNope. Denied, faggot.
There's going to be a hundred people each server with their first name being Asmongold
>>580788876>would mean they have no models to reuse for high elves for the allianceHigh elves and blood elves are the same race. Wtf are you talking about?
>>580788417All the old ones are still in and they will add new dungeons and quests in and new zones but there wont be expansions there will be no level cap increase or old zones getting nerfed etc. just more and more content
>>580782460>Bloomer sane anons, rise up.Yeah me. Not playing.
Im fine with paywalled races because its the most worthless thing only idiots will buy.Until they sell ogre or naga or some shit and bait me
>>580789074Asmon Goldstein
>>580787926Schizo posting
>>580789074Hopefully they have the common sense to add popular streamers names to the ban list
i'm reserving Leg Olas
>>580788876>organizing faction balance around which faction has the most tranny coded race when its 99.9% decided by server and what racial is OPjust play horde server if you want horde, alliance server if you want alliance
>>580788876>would mean they have no models to reuse for high elves for the allianceShut the fuck up if you don't even know what you're talking about
>580789015>haha bro all the quests they added are just go collect 2 bread ans take them to goldshire>lol lmao look at me im anon im being a reductive niggerfaggot for attention hue hue LE MASTUR TROLE STRIKES AGANE(You) withheld. Your kind need starved of the one thing you crave.
>>580781945>Skyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get MagesInteresting.So Alliance gets legally distinct High Elves and horde gets.... more retarded Night Elf rejects?Picking Alliance has never been easier.
for the second name, can multiple people have the same name? or does it follow regular name rules?
>>580789161>ogre or nagaMan, people would have been ecstatic if they had announced them instead of blue elves
>>580788805Will she call me her little brown human boy?
Horde-Orc
someone died due to standing in the arcane beam for 2 seconds. instagibbed. real mechanics waow
Alright bought 5 copies for all my friendsStay mad losers Lol
i cant find the fucking talent trees aaaaaAAAAAAA
>>580789264270 a tick
>>580789161Pretty bold to say you're fine with it while also admitting that by incentivizing it it's going to bite you in the ass.
>>580788931>shitty arguments>tired insults>last word syndromecolour me shocked i would expect nothing less from a classhit
>>580789230Especially with Dorf Shaman desuThough the teases at Thunderbluff expansion look kino
>>580789296Hey it's me, your friend
>>580789296Can I be your friend?
>>580789318Soda has been streaming talent trees for the past 2 hoursAll classes got minor tweaks that make them seem OP except for Rogue
>>580789318check again tomorrow on wowheadunless you're a warlockCHAD, then an autistic god already made a calculator
>>580789318Xaryu showed them all on stream a couple of hours ago.
>>580789296hey it's me your brother
>>580788723They could make models that fit aesthetically
>>580789296Buy me a deluxe pack and I promise to be your healslut (no gay ERP shit)
>Elves are shit! I hate elves! What kind of faggot would play an elf? World of elfcraft!>30$ TO PLAY AN ELF??? WTF BLIZZARD LET ME PLAY MY FAVORITE RACEYou guys are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the internet.
>>580788893im not gonna do this anon, i was just saying.i remember a time where dungeon exp was so overtuned that me and a friend skipped the whole questing because we could just jump from one dungeon into the next, i believe it was sometime in cata. im more of an open world explorer
>>580789416>>580789435im not gonna click through a 7 hour stream without timeline previewstwitch sucks ASS
>>580788876I actually think this was the main motivation but they could have made the split high elves and blood elves hinted of a new elf group
vrykul for 14.99 29.99 for valkyr/berserker classbros? 8 ft tall vrykul women
>>580789353you can always go back to retail speedrunning those keys sis
>>580789339Because realistically theres zero chance ugly races will ever get made without some gay ass paywall
>>580788509Gurr.
>>580789529I like elves, tbdesu. That's why I'm upset at them chasing $30 to play one.
if youre not paying attention. they've only gained 4 bars of exp with rested on so far this dungeon
i'll be real with you, anon. i'm kind of drinking the koolaid on this one.it could be fun.
There's no way any healer is looking forward to returning to this type of a healing gameplay.. 2005 healing standing around doing nothing!
Half the appeal of Classic is the original, grimy, ugly, gross, dirty sweaty aesthetic of the game. Updating everything to the smooth and clean Disney version of wow is going to be really fucking hard to swallow i think
having straight up old dalaran in the game is so cool. wonder if it'll be a new quest hub. would have to be right? too important
>>580789230Literally it’s so horde can get blood elves and alliance can get high elves without them having to choose
>>580789230if they're doing this, then why not just have high elves for alliance and blood elves for horde? why add these retarded retail reject elves?
>no /wowcg/ on the log>no one even attempting to make a new /wowg/FOREVER WON
>>580789529You really think the people that hate the hundred flavors of elf retail has are the same people that will pay 30$ to play shitty blue elves?
I do understand being disappointed something like a race isn't part of the 'base package' everyone will have, but the game is already effectively free for me since I play retail.
>>580789648
retoilets are seething maze+ killed the game
>>580788876I agree with Skyborne for horde but not for alliance, they should have given alliance something else
>>580789648Sup Nick
>>580782460Everytime i see this meme getting posted the game gets shut down within months/the show gets cancelled after 1 season.Grim sign.
Alliance-John
>>580789804They want the female draenei audience
Will she make an appearance in forever?
>>580789753Our healers were absurdly excited for resto druid with those talents.Everyones clowning on how shit priest/pallys healing talents are
>>580789738yeah, leveling up is going to take alongtime
Just farm gold in retail and buy tokens to pay for the recolored elves, if you're that fucking poor
do escape artist and stoneform no longer remove active debuffs?
>>580789765you can turn it off though
>>580789901i'm offended right now
ITS JUST LIKE CLASSIC!
>>580789817I mean I'm just happy its vanilla + custom content that's staying at 60. I'm not playing that blue shit though
>>580789230Honestly probably best case scenario for me lel>have autism about killing pretty elves so can't play as Alliance ever since TBC>see new race is basically same elf but blue>pls pls pls don't be horde>it's dual faction ale pandas>fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff>...but wait, it's DIFFERENT, because there was cultural shift and these two groups are totally different!>oh?>alliance ones are smart and want to get back into the most OP shit after plot armor: Magic!>and the horde ones.... Want to worship wind or something I dunno>elves.... worshipping elements? ok so the horde elves are just straight up retarded then lmao>no longer feel bad about killing horde elvesLife is good.
>>580789765>Half the appeal of Classic is the original, grimy, ugly, gross, dirty sweaty aesthetic of the game.or you could not play the sweaty gay orc faction
>>580789753pally is boring AF. priests getting penance, mending. shamans getting riptide. not sure about druids
>My TBC guild disbanding already, says in Guild Message of the day>1 raid and 1 hc dungeon in LFG total>4-5 posts in trade/lfg over 5 minute periodI don't think the players on this server realize how fast it will die lmao.
So does giving Paladins removal to fears and sleep because of Forsaken more OP than them having Stun removal?
>>580789901Don't you DARE compare my beloved space goats to some gay blue elves.
>>580789901Nobody who likes female draenei likes those thingst. female goat main
>>580789901>no arched back>no tail>not tall>no hornsNo draenei enjoyer sees anything else than elves in the skybourne
>>580789928The hunter and shaman sets are actually pretty based.
>>580789161I'd be fine paying $30 for ogres.
In one way it's shit because I don't want elves on HordeIn another way it's hilarious because faggots gotta pay 30 dollarydoos to play a reskinned belf
>>580789601>implying i ever stoppedHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The only races that deserved to be added to vanilla are:Goblin, Ogre, High/Blood ElfHonorable mention to furbolg but that is pushing it.Donut steel elf feels so dirty
if it works I'll play italso very funny seeing the blue elf compromise after all the seething about draenei
>>580790050>spirit on leveling gearB E S T I N S L O T
>>580790116>>580790138>>580790142shut up retards they're blue, that's all that matters. you WILL pay the $30.
>>580789524You can't even be a fag rightWorthless
How long will the beta go? Surely not until release?And what do I need to buy to play the beta? And once the game fully releases, is a subscription enough?
>>580790075The mental gymnastics you have to do to accept that shit lmao
>>580789837jej
>>580790151>I'd be fine paying $30 for ogresAnd this is why they knew they could sell the sex elves.
>>580789901Literal femlet with no horns, hooves or tailThey're not even interesting lorewise0/10, wouldnt rape in a stormwind alleyway
>>580790265sept 17 to october 24, launch nov 4
>>580790182owned that chud
what are the new dungeons and raids? don't tell me that they are realsing this with the 20 years old content lmao
>>580789632I would almost believe you if retail wasn't chock full of buttugly races they forced. just face it the blueberry elves are lazy and phoned in bullshit because they don't want to actually fully invest into this thing so they did the lowest effort thing possible
>>580789581High elves would be blood elf models with blue eyescan't do that if blood elves are already in the game, would look lazy and retardedbesides blood elves have a fully fleshed out starting zone with a capital city that would be difficult to integrate into this version of wow, or impossible to match for the high elf side
>>580790091druids got mangle
>no juggler jester bard spec class>no dark elf>no naga>no gryphon rider>no tinkerthese will all be added btw wow forever will look like a paradox game in 2 years 2000 usd for all dlcs
>>580789416I've been watching Soda but had to go do something when he covered Rogue. What did I miss? What major changes did they do?
>>580790258but my space goat is red
WoW really needed a new Elf variantThe 100 diffrent elves already in the game just werent enoughtPlease give us blue elves,red elves,orange elves,pink elves etc.And make us pay 30$ each for them please.
this kinda sucks.why not do double-crit => instant pyro?the gambling mechanic is what made it so fun. this is just "sometimes you can do pyro instead of a fireball!"
>>580790396the firbolgs in felwood have a dungeon it looks like, timbermaw hold or whatever
There's a lot of AoE encounters in this dungeon. So that's their idea of difficulty, more adds? Paladin tanks are gotta be the kings again.
>>580790265you need to buy the 60 dollar pass to play the betabut if you dont buy any pass, you can play with only a sub
>>580790110>no arenaliterally who cares
>>580790442Mutalate doesnt need daggers, expose gets refunds, wrath energy ticks.What little I saw, didnt care much about rogues so I didnt pay much attention.
Also why beta? Wasn't one of the good things about SoD that everyone praised was the no beta so the world would feel new and interesting to explore? Fucking game is gonna be solved when it launches.
did they actually get the turtle wow guys on the dev teamwhy is every 'new' idea just ripped from turtle wow
>>580790475What's funny is Legion already added blue elves. And they were given a distinct look, and aren't just blue BElves
>>580790442rogues got no changes other than a assa capstone that does zero damage and is another upkeep ability like slice n dice
>expected dogshit>received dogshithey im not surprised motherfuckers>30 buckaroo elf variation #634>"classic"+ the sprirt of classic lives foreber!KEEEEK
>>580790475Crazy how people have to use AI for text on a fucking youtube video thumbnail
>>580790494they dont want to turn the game into retail and have caster spam instant cast while jumping around
>>580790585Have you seen the state of retail? They HAVE TO have a beta. Either that or hire sufficient QA, which they won't.
arms tank weaponforever not looking too good
Wow... that's just what I envisioned a continuation of vanilla looking like. Shan't be playing.
is balance druid good now
>>580790674>they dont want to turn the game into retailHalf the design decisions were stealing shit from retail
>>580790503there's one new dungeon? are people just going to run the same stuff the did in Vanilla and then Classic, what's going on here? what's the point of this if its going to be the same shit with very minor changes?
>>580790494harder to stack crit on classic>>580790674what a shame
>>580790674it's fun.
what happens when interest dwindles and the playerbase leaves?
>>580790739got literally nothingyou got a talent that when you press wrath it buffs starfire and the other way aroundseems unfinished
>>580790739All 3 druid specs seemed like they got the most attention.So much so it seems like a fucking mistake going from resto druids talents to any other healer.
>>580790738OOHH MYY GOD IS THAT PACK 1 PACK 2 ANDDD PACK 3???
>>580790410>would look lazy and retarded>Two races with minimal cosmetic differences would look lazy>but one race for the two factions doesn't look lazy>canon stuff would be retarded>a new type of elf out of nowhere is not retarded>besides blood elves have a fully fleshed out starting zone with a capital city that would be difficult to integrate into this version of wow, or impossible to match for the high elf sideLiterally just make it a neutral zone, just like the one they did for sky elves.
What do we think about the (((improved))) graphics?
>>580790585beta only goes to level 30 but they'll datamine the shit out of it regardless>>580790735ret tank weapon
>orc get the modern better blood fur that doesn't reduce healing>get to keep 20% reduced stun>get a brand new racial that removes and gives immunity to curses>still gets 1% crit with axes even though they already have a dps racial with blood furyHoly shit Orc looks like the bis race on Horde by far.
Confirmed WoW: Forever Expansions/Seasons>WoW: Forever take on TBC>New class>Pandaria>Northrend>Legion>DH class>Shadowlands>Dragon Isles>New race bundle>DK class>Blood and void Vanilla+ elves>Alternative Draenor/WoD mix DLC
>>580790853Same thing that's happening right now to retailThey'll whip up a fresh new version of wow
>>580790853WoW Forever+ gets released
>>580790517Damn. I hoped that maybe the 30 dollar one would be enough. Guess I'll wait till release.
era numbers on the 17th?
>>580790795there a couple new leveling dungeons but its mostly slopyou wont be raiding molten chore until summer when blizzard recreates it
Do we like the new nelf racial? 10% crit chance for 15 seconds (3min CD), also get a 2% movement speed bonus passively. Smeld can be used in combat too
>>580790739Moonkin itself probably still sucks because it aint worth more than natures swiftness.The hot dot and kite balance/resto split build is looking very strong though
>>580790903Looks good
>>580790739They are going to be menaces in pvp
>>580790913orc woyer chads, we're eating good.
>>580790853They'll open the dark portal
>>580790903I expect I'll be turning a lot of those settings down substantially.
>>580790795>one new dungeon?Nigger did you skip the reveal?They showed 6 new levelling dungeons
>>580790790>>580790838it's not the kind of gameplay people are looking for in a c+ gameIm honestly worried they've already went too far with icelance and ripitide honestly
>>580790808>harder to stack crit on classicit worked fine when they did it for sod. that's one i really hoped they'd roll into classic+. instant pyro mage is so much more interesting than the "11111111" frost gameplay mages were in classic.
shouldnt the gay blue elves be free and a part of the game?
>>580790964sounds busted actually
>>580790889Are weapons for ferals still stat sticks?
Since all the transgirls went to final fantasy 14 is there going to he a healer drought in Forever
Isn't this shit really OP in PvP, especially hunter?
>>580791000checked
at least they fucking finally gave locks some hit and uncucked Ruin
>>580790898that's true. a faction split between high/blood elf at the end of the zone would make more sense
>No more weapon skill racialsThey're removing that stat aren't they
>>580790075Elves joining horde for any reasons in retarded
>>580790913bis race is gnome with the the 10% damage for the next 3 abilities, specifically rogue since it also reduced energy/mana combined with their + more resource passiveforsaken got totally fucked. they get a chance to do 5% leech which is like 10hp
Why are retail trannies in my white classic general?
>>580791152>taking damage reduces itREAD NIGGER. It's useless in combat.
ADD GOBLINS
>>580790964>2% movement speed bonus passively.Isn't that OP in PvP? You just press W and they can't catch you.
>>580791129Dunno but druids get polearms now.They took away powershifting like in sod.The demo ferals start with crowd pummelers lol
>>580790738is this retail? looks like retail
>"we know world of warcraft classic art style is timeless">pumps out retail mounts and pets models that you can't toggle out offwhat did they mean by this.
>>580790964I'm thinking nelf spriest
>>580791152It takes a long time to build up and depletes quickly.
>>580791225Nope, weapon skills still in
>>580791234its forever general, chud get fucked
Worst part? I won't even be allowed to spit at the blue elves
>>580791152it takes 2.5 mins to reach its maximum
>>580791236I mean he's right that if hunters can kite warriors or rogues, it's busted as fuck.
>>580791260If it was retail they'd pull all packs shown there and aoe them down without issue
>>580791256>They took away powershifting like in sod.How? I remember powershifting in phase 1.
>>580791136I'll play a Night Elf Priest just for you :)
>>580790853maintenance mode 12 months + missed timelines and 0 content, same as every other version of wow
>>580791152>If you move for 2 and a half minutes without taking damage you can move 30% faster>>580791329I more meant removing extra sources of it, like from racials and shit like edgemasters
>>580791392You won't believe this, but hunters have this aspect that makes them run at 30% speed...
>>580791236reduces it, not removes it completely. Also it can fuck with melee really bad.
Enjoy guys. I'm not playing this shit.
Any chance we get retail's new June holiday event in Forever? It would bring a lot of my friends to the game.
>>580791236If a tauren hunter gets a runup and initiates on you from max range, you are never catching them unless they fuck up to knock their plainsrunning off.
>>580791417Energy at 0 when you shift.Didnt see a talent for it
>>580791421Good girl
>>580791469And now they can use a different one like monkey or hawk while kiting...
>>580791232I wanted to roll rogue on horde but after seeing all the racials I agree Gnome looks bis as fuck.
>>580791543Ah, they removed furor then.
>>580790903The only time anti-soul gas actually works
>>580791623also with the double names, I'm gonna try to get Tinkle Winkle
>>580791536We're better off without them
>>580791616>what is throw
desu i think it's probably good if every racial feels OP. the numbers are boring, like 2% crit or whatever is fucking lame. but mechanically unique stuff is good. plainsrunning is great flavor. nelf stealth in combat is neat. gnome 3x cheap spells, same thing.
LMAO THIS LITERALLY JUST SHADE OF ARAN
>>580791525Yes you are
>>580791616It takes over 2 minutes to ramp up to the same speed you get from just toggling cheetah on. Unless they stack which would be hilarious
Be honest with me, how much hope did you guys had going in.I gave it like 20% and so im not surprised kek.
>>580791623undead looks to be the weakest race in the game.the only syngery with undead would be going warlock since the 5% leech is based off hp, but still thats like 20-30hp which means fuckall
this noob sits through a full poly instead of shifting out
so these talent trees are just blizzcon placeholder, right? also why the fuck do so many abilities have long cds still? they even gave slam a 15sec cd for some reason
>>580791232Gnome essentially got their retail racials, which are really strong, but also that fucked up 3-ability reduction one on top of that.
>>580790913>>580791232>making racials more divisive instead of lesslmfao looking forward to the "i picked the wrong race bilzard please fix!" fomo shit and some races being 20% mroe dps than others and people quitting because they dont get invitedwas already bad enough in nilla with the expertise now tis only gonna be way worserace change is only 50 bucks goy pay up!
>>580791275Probably druid for me, I dont like spriest without vampiric touch. But hey atleast you get devouring plague.
>>580791885After SOD? 0 hopeBut somehow it looks like Forever may actually be good
>>580791914>15 seconds is too long for the ADHD retoilet generationHow about because it makes them feel impactful, dumbass
>>580791886>he only syngery with undead would be going warlock since the 5% leech is based off hpAbsolutely mogged by troll warlock in the regen department
>>580791885I had low expectation and was positively surprised
>>580791773>waste the time on a throw>stand in spot and let the hunter damage you>it only removes a stack and not the entire thing>>580791873Xaryu checked and it didn't stack with travel form, but you can swap off cheetah once it's stacked. It's honestly an insane racial for WSG. Every movement speed boost helps.
>>580792000checked
sheesh
>>580792026slam had no cd in vanilla
>>580791903that's what happens when you rely on social media wiggers with a fanbase of retard to advertise you FRIENDLY product
>>580792000trips cumfirm.Forever is FOREVER!
>>580788876Wrong. Blizzard did this because whichever faction got Elves would've had all the woman and the other side would've been doing the raping.
>>580792057>what is sprint>what is charge>what is interceptYou're actually retarded if you think this will be remotely useful in pvp.
>>580791945great news my gentile friend!they're only 25
>>580790735its lvl 38 shit stop being a fag retard
>>580791886>5% leechPretty sure it's 5% active chance with 5% healing cap on YOUR health. The damage is it's own number.
>Promised myself I would never play a DPS only class again after suffering LFG as a hunter.>The only classes that I like that are available to Alliance Sky Elves are Hunter and Druid>No point in making a Sky Elf Druid if I'm always going to be in one form or another.The old reliable it is then.
>>580792209The obvious answer that everyone has solved in like 10 min after seeing the trailer was to add both high elves and blood elves.
I don't know how I feel about this. I feel like it's a bit too much.The new race being behind a paywall is disgusting though.
>>580788876Overthinking it. They want to save the other retail races for future content updates to sell on the cash shop, so they made up a bullshit new elf race because women and Chinese players love elves
>>580792259>5% chance to heal for 20hp
>>580790964NELF RAPIST WOYER
Did anyone catch the cooldown on the new Troll regen racial? It looked like the Zandalari one from retail but that would be OP as fuck for leveling.
FUCK I MISSED ITWhere do you guise see the changes forever makes???Race changes and so forth?
>>580792350apparently the race sucks so much no one wants to play it so it doesn't matter right? otherwise it's free
>>580792338Well this is nu-blizzard, they're basically retarded.
>>580792057Oh and speaking of PvP racials, the $30 paid wall racial for slowfall is bonkers for AB. >>580792232>monkey is up>the attacks missCondolences. Rogues are getting kinda fucked in general because Blind is a poison so dwarves fuck them and Human's have the stun removal racial AND perception AND those new account wide unlocks have one that give you +2 levels on seeing stealth.
>>580791885saar i do had the hopeful saar
>>580790795theres like 7 new dungeons, vanilly had what? 20?
>No shaman tanksYes, I am sad.
>>580792473Soda has been showing them for the past few hours and just got done. I'm sure wowhead will have articles of all that shit soon.
>>580792473just wait for fresh, you're already too late
>>580792543NEW BREAD BAKED>>580792543>>580792543>>580792543>>580792543>>580792543>>580792543>>580792543MIGRATE
>>580792232sprint is back to being a 5min CD which means its basically useless
>>580792516>monkey is up>warrior presses intimidating shoutWoah that was hard.
im so excited bros, i have hundreds of hours in wow but esp just levelling in wow classic. never raided in classic wow but leveled a bunch, and the last time i did an actual raid on heroic was bfa nzoth(i cant commit to meeting weekly for a raid im a free spirit). i don't get the complaints with the sky smurfs they look hot
>>580792605no warlock tanks either it seems which is surprising to me since that was popular on sod
So are they going to leave us alone now that their dogshit is out?
>>580781945LMAO
>>580790913>Hillary Clinton has asked a Rothchild "what penance do I owe you"
>>580783016yes
