Previous >>581052271>What is WoW: Forever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
>>581064731sex with skelves
We're so fucking back!
What's going to be the rarest race/class combo?
>>581064938Orc mage
>>581063661In vanilla mostly end game lore leads to the next end game.So for example in BRD you see the dark irons and learn the terrible secret that they basically sold their soul to ragnaros ages ago to try and fight the dwarves which is why they've so fucked up for so long, which breadcrumbs you to Molten Core and why the Molten Core is inside BRD.During all that Nefarian was pushing in and gaining territory in blackrock mountain through his orcs and dragons, which is why Ragnaros and his shit is more active as the dark irons are relying on their god like being to bail them out, and as soon as Ragnaros is out of the picture the balance is skewed and Nefarian is now able to exert his FULL influence through BWL and fully tries to take over the mountain with the armies he already had in place in blackrock spire, to ultimately make room for Deathwing.This would eventually continue onto Grim Batol where the combination of the orc/dragon armies of Deathwing would encounter and eradicate/ally with the dwarves in there but that ended up being scrapped.And with the black dragonflight greatly weakened the other dragonflight can now be more active which eventually leads to the events of the opening of the gates of Ahn Quiraj.This is all an extremely shortened version but basically all this hasn't happened except for the Dark Irons being in cahoots with Ragnaros, with the difference that there's probably not gonna be hydraxian waterlords and the nefarian stuff and other shit helping you to take down a ragnaros about to awaken so there's time to focus on other endeavors that happen almost IMMEDIATELY after WC3 like the Barrow Deeps being in disarray after Archimonde's bullshit and Illidan escape, and the aftermath of WC3 Hyjal war on the surface with the hyjal summit raid.This allows the devs some breathing room so they don't have to release all the same shit that happened in vanilla on the exact same order and so on.
>>581064938dwarf priest
>EU, PVE, Alliance >Respect LGBT, no slurs, has to be super calm NPCkind of person or you're kicked Ok so what do I change to never see this shit so I could be myself and was able to at least say faggot without being judged?
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanDwarf Shaman makes senseUndead Paladin is full on retardOrcs have had way more connection and time with humans, yet they don't know the the ways of the Light? This is how you know Blizzard don't even know their own lore.
Do horizontalfags really think people are going to spend 10 hours a week raiding to get a 67 DPS sword with [4 PPM effect worth X DPS] instead of [4 PPM Y% attack speed for 5 seconds]
>>581064938gnome + the least playable class they can be
>>581064938Dwarf/Troll Rogue probablyMaybe unpopular Race + Mage/Warlock
I look and speak like thisshould i play this game or go get a productive hobby that will actually be fun?
>>581064981top 2 on warcraftlogs
Ahlaundoh is laughing at /ourchud/ again...
If 4chan hates WoW why are these threads so fast?
>>581064938Gnome
>>581065057Who?
>>581065023>Ok so what do I change to never see this shit so I could be myself and was able to at least say faggot without being judged?Hop on discord. Unironically. Ingame you'll eventually get banned for saying that. But my experience is that classic discords chudmaxx.
>>581065023dont join a tranny guild?
>>581065057fuck i missed the burning bile part
>>581065023>I can't play a game without saying a slurWhat the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>581065027Don't they do this in retail?
>>581065150some unc ass forever era speedrunner fag
>>581065052Is there a poll somewhere or are you speculating that it's gonna be meta?
>aussie mcdonalds giving beta access for 1000 maccas points>saved me from FOMO'in and wasting $96 AUD on fucking beta accessgoodby forever retail you dog shit ass game
>>581065284fucking aussies where's MY mcdonald fucking rewards?
>>581065274That answers nothing.
>>581065023We are going to be making a 4chan themed guild where we say and do anything we want
>>581065338Salvdali
>>581065275nah just saying cause they have a spell damage racial
>>581065174When I was playing TBC I tried to find a guild through discord server but it's the same thing. It's even worse if you have GM with a wife that plays wow too. I don't want to sound like a chud myself, but if something goes wrong and someone being stupid, I want to say it, instead of being respectful to someone's retardation. >>581065196There were only those. So idk if it's Alliance problem or PVE problem.
>>581064938troll warlock and tauren druid
>>581065284This is still so fucking funny to me
I am admittedly curious why Aussie McDonald’s has this promo and nowhere else does
>>581065409>When I was playing TBC I tried to find a guild through discord server but it's the same thing. It's even worse if you have GM with a wife that plays wow too.>I don't want to sound like a chud myself, but if something goes wrong and someone being stupid, I want to say it, instead of being respectful to someone's retardation.Make your own chud guild maybe? Perhaps expand your vocabulary? I enjoy calling people faggot and nigger as much as the next guy, but there are more ways to insult someone. Coming up with clever ways to call someone a retard is a minigame in itself.
gonna make a guild that is pro-trans and trans inclusive.
Haven't played WoW in 15 years, do I have a sliver of a chance in BGs?
I FEEL SO UNSUREAS I TAKE YOUR HAND AND LEAD YOU TO THE DANCE FLOORAS THE MUSIC DIES, SOMETHING IN YOUR EYESCALLS TO MIND A SILVER SCREENAND ALL ITS SAD GOOD-BYESI'M NEVER GONNA DANCE AGAINGUILTY FEET HAVE GOT NO RHYTHMTHOUGH IT'S EASY TO PRETENDI KNOW YOU'RE NOT A FOOLI SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO CHEAT A SMURFAND WASTE THE CHANCE THAT I'D BEEN GIVENSO I'M NEVER GONNA DANCE AGAINTHE WAY I DANCED WITH YOU
>>581065552It's the afternoon on australia, it's probably gonna be a thing in several places but aussies live in the future.
ahlaundohhttps://youtu.be/KOV4-IYWM6o
>>581065562>Perhaps expand your vocabulary?most Americans don't read.
>The sky elves was Aggrends idea >The undead pally was Aggrends idea >nuMetzen didn’t push back ofc
Gonna make a guild with only skelves and
>>581065620You're greatly, GREATLY understimating the lazyness and dogshit gameplay of your average wow, no, average vidya player.
>>581065669yeah pretty sure theyre going to be giving codes out like candyunironically anyone paying for one is a fucking retard
>>581065620They just increase damage of classes by giving new tools so it's a gibfest. Just pick a gnome mage and two-shot people and blink away.
I want to roll alliance but everytime I do I feel like every single person I interact with are all troons/fags
>>581065710>nuMetzen didn’t pushnuMetzen is basically Mao in 1976. He's a smiling Buddha as Mao said. Just a spokesman/figure head put out there with no real say over anything.
>>581065025The High Elves had even more connection with humans and still couldn't be paladins, which ultimately pissed them off enough to capture a Naaru and take the Light by force.Undead paladins are fine, Leonid's chilling in EPL as always.
is warlock tank happening eventually?
My skyborne will be like this
>>581065795>poorfag cope
>>581065807thats just your brain on 4chanthey are actually almost always real girls looking for bf/casual sex
Any other McDoanld's enjoyers getting their McBeta key with their app points? I was gonna pay the $50 but not anymore.
>>581065857bro i literally got a free maccas code, but stay paypigging for some shit i got for free
official ultimate Enjoyment class / spec ranking>FUN TIMES AHEAD TIERWarlock (All specs) Ele ShamSurv melee/trap hunterShockadinSpriestPompyro>Fun but not always tierFrost mageRogue all specsdruid all but boomkinbm/mm hunter>fag tierholy/disc priestresto shamholy/prot palafury/prot war>Fun but requires an above sized penis tierBalance druidEnhancement Shaman (very racist indivuals only)night elf arms warrior that shadowmelds next to a mounted jump and dismounts people the second theyre on the edge so they plummet to their deaths
>>581065873>they are actually almost always real girls looking for bf/casual sexI don't know about all that. But there was a surprising amount of real women playing classic.
RETAIL MINUStransmogmtx mounts and skinsstreamlined mechanics like no energy regain tickasked twitch streamers how to design the game
>>581065710You're playing Aggrend's game now.
>>581065848God I wish the in game models were actually cute I’d main one so fast.
>>581065957Twow had transmog though and nobody cared
Funnily enough. Had the new spicy nuggets today and my stomach is fucking killing me tonight. I either lost my spice tolerance or got rotten nugs, or have an ulcer. Class/race for this feel?
>have to choose between the troon faction or the faction with the largest amount of smurfs (Horde) and 3rd worlders (ud pala)sufferingi think im just gonna make a melee lonewolf survival hunter tho
This game is going to disappoint people and fall off very fast.
>>581065939>>Fun but requires an above sized penis tier>Enhancement Shaman (very racist indivuals only)Literally me
>>581065873>they are actually almost always real girls looking for bf/casual sexpfthahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>581065848Catgirl elves in my Forever when?
>>581066039because it was free and the players were troons
>>581065902>he didn’t already buy the thing he wanted>he had to wait for maccas to grace him with a slop codePoor
I'll play a Dwarf Enh Shaman and you can't stop me
people are going to lose their shit once the beta begins and the modders start to post pictures of big titty paladin elves
>>581065983Very grimOnly time can tell the abominations lying in wait
>>581066053Cope. Your third world tranny servers are dead. Get over it.
>>581066059Sir please this is a chaste thread
>>581066109>bro payded 30 freedom bucks for something every random bruce got for free
>>581066039Crazy how pservers had cash shops that makes retail cash shop look conservative, could buy bis characters, buy legendaries etc and it was "soul" but blizzard includes a mount in a collectors edition and all the same people seethe endlessly kek
>>581065409its bothalliance has more of those because you have the constant cancer of Goldshire ERPers which draws in all the mentally ill across various guilds to roll alliance.PVE boosts that because the normies still havent figured out you can be pvp flagged on PVE servers and get into actual PVP so they still sit hang around with the ganking spergs. As a result Alliance PVE realms have larger than real minority of alphabet people and cucks that want to appease them since they just want to game without being screamed at . Also any very large guild or very small guild will be about "muh inclusivity" because no sane person wants to deal with hordes of retards. Look for guilds in the 50-100 member range.
you reckon the revamped iconic raid is gonna subvert expectations and be Kara?
>>581066074It was still a classic+ server you dumbass
/we/ Will be keeping the SOVL F0G on.
>>581066184beta access is 60
the amount of obsession over trannies among you guys is insane. they live rent free in your head.
>>581066039>>581066193>it's OK because people i hate did itMazies are a confused bunch aren't they?
>>581066267It not ooay but it's inconsequential and I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of thirdies
>>581066193>Crazy how pservers had cash shops that makes retail cash shop look conservative, could buy bis characters, buy legendaries etc and it was "soul" but blizzard includes a mount in a collectors edition and all the same people seethe endlessly kekIt's almost as if the people seething were profiting from the troonserver P2W. Curious.
>>581065260dont point this out it hurts their feelings
yooo this real?
>>581066053I think people will quit after the first true 40 man raid tierpeople will realize this is retail instead of classic
>people who have been asking for vanilla with new stuff added when they see blizzard made vanilla with new stuff added
>>581066204its gonna be kara crypts
>>581066301>It not ooaySAAR
>>581065098World of Warcraft is 4chan site culture people still use Kek to this day.
whose forever videos is the best? i don't know who is a shill.
>>581066010The faces are a 10, why'd they have to make the elf tummy so middle aged
>>581066308It’s worse than that. That implies a conspiracy which takes intelligence and coordination. These subhumans just have nothing going on upstairs. They don’t know what they want, they don’t know what they’re asking for, they barely even know how to form a sentence.
>>581066193You could also buy cosmetics that blizzard for some reason never wants to do. I had this one for undead female that made her skin a kind of grey black color that I liked.
bros is Tauren OP? 1% hit seems super value
Should I use my last remaining vacation day for release day or the following Friday?
>>581066386alex sexual, he's blacklisted everywhere = no shill
>>581066386Depends on what your definition of a shill is. If it's anyone not hating everything about the game you'll have to look for some culture war grifter I think.
>>581066193take some pity thousands of thirdies cant pay their rent this month because of blizzard
>>581066193I legit considered buying the spectral tiger on Turtle WoW cashshop glad i didn't. That shit was like $100 USD, recently bought like $30 AUD worth of gold on OctoWoW and get this nagging feeling the GM's are just freely generating infinite gold cutting a deal with gold seller sites
what if Forever is before TFT and Arthas never gets corrupted
>>581065939Pompyro will still be a pvp meme spec. With Frostfire bolt being in the game the amount of crit you can get going deep fire with some frost talents is looking pretty appealing.
>>581066386All of them are EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME>erm blue elves with a paywall is lame>ummm new zones and stuff is kinda cool>don't know how I feel about these graphic updates yet haha woah sun rays haha
>>581066386our fatty: nixxiomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89KfZyZguk
>>581066487Is rent in America getting that bad?
>>581066489>That shit was like $100 USDNiggas really didn't see a problem with this but hate the 30 dollar elves.
>>581066465Following friday. Release is always a shitshow.
Forever looks like shit so I think I will run a 1.12 server and make a retpally and give him dw and spiritual guidance.
>All the deep dive panels focused on Paladins >All the developers admitted they main pally >New Warcraft 3 campaign is all about undead paladins >Paladin related merch like keyboard and desk mats data minedGuess which class will be ridiculously broken
>chance to rewrite wow lore after wc3>night elves are still tree huggers instead of feral elves where the women are kicking orc ass where they previously steamrolled stormwind>undead are STILL allied with the horde instead of being a neutral faction ( I hope to fucking god they play more into the sick war-crime shit the UD were pulling against their own faction like that ungoro tauren quest) >go for the disney adventure route instead of edgy like metzen concept art wascringe, how are they even going to explain riverlands anyway? the trailer shows an entire army out there doing god knows what when the entire plot of the ENTIRE 1-60 alliance leveling experiene is that Onyxia is controlling the alliance like a puppet master and stretching the entire army thin to the point where Stormwind can't even defend the farmland thats their literal backdoor and supplies the entire southern half of the eastern kingdoms with grain
>>581066347people didn't want retail paid mounts.
>>581066489Are there actual RMT platforms selling gold for OctoWoW? That's fucking hilarious if true.
>>581066497if only they didnt say its year 1 of wow timeline
>>581066571I'm sure your country will get paved roads soon
>>581066589As per usual warriors who will scale the best every single time
>>581066221I don't know how i feel about it, will be kind of stupid having a permanent fog shroud 50 yards infront of me at all times in every zone.. As long as i can turn it off i guess? I'll try for a bit to see if it's considered a graphical improvement or not. Big L if they sincerely never rains anymore unless that's just a rumour
dual spec status?personal loot status?is ruleset permanent status?
>>581066546>PUT THE WAR BACK IN WARCRAFT>Plays on a PvE server because he's tired of getting gankedAbsolute faggot, opinion discarded.
Oy vey Blizzard making changes to a new version of classic? Preposterous?Selling races? In my day TBC only charged 50$ for bloodelves and draenei!
>>581066676I hope so but living in kentucky rarely brings such fortune
>>581066738yesnodont know yet
>a powerful kick that deals 100% weapon damagewhy a kick though? it deals weapon damage.
>>581066676I mean there's a few potholes here and there but they get fixed pretty quickly. And we just added this really nice side walk with a bridge where I like to jog with my husky.
>>581066589Paladin is the most popular class in every version of the game that isn't vanilla. Both Blizzard and most the playerbase hate the fact that their vanilla version is a neutered buffbot healsissy that the #nochanges crowd prevented from ever being a real class.
>>581066546you know he's going to play and love it anyway
Going to play Mage in the Beta.Then Lock or Pally in Live.
>>581066673well they made a mistake that needs to be fixedLordaeron should be the human capital led by arthas
>>581066580Y-you just don't get it! P2W is SOVL when pservers do it!!!
>>581066610The new zone?Did you even pay attention/watched the deep dives?It's been completely disconnected BECAUSE efforts were stretched thin, as a result it's 2 branches of warcraft 1 factions between the first war orcs and the brootherhood of the horse (old as shit warcraft 1 name to Lothars knights) that are in permanent conflict yet have never been able to get help or stop so it's a permanent stalemate.
>>581066768you kick your weapon at them
>>581066768Why call it a kick if it doesn't interrupt either
Skywall!? more like PAYWALL amirite?But imagine unironically switching to WoW Forever when retail is out here dropping absolute masterclasses in peak engagement engineering, microtransaction synergy, and FOMO drip-feeding beautiful dopamine-optimized ecosystem for intellectual gamers.All you cry for horizontal progression but having 14 different currencies to upgrade a single piece of Mythic+ gear is suddenly a retail trash? My sweet summer child, It's a piece of flawless, high-brain move that keeps our synapses firing and optimizing, allowing for a healthy work-life balance that gives us the ultimate financial agency to flex our real-life economic dominance over brokie peasants with our store mounts, meaning your parasocial hate-boner for Blizzard’s peak design is a massive skill issue and you should honestly sit down, touch grass, and let the real connoisseurs enjoy the future of gaming at retail, diving head first into the Metzen kino of Last Titan and beyond.
>>581066181My mistake I will post wholesome catgirl elves only
>>581066768To reuse the rogue kick animation. This is a lazy cash grab, remember?
>>581066757did tbc sell armor sets also?
>>581066768because it survival and kicks are scrappy fighting stylealso makes sure no survival hunter tries to dual wield
>>581064938Undead Paladin is going to be the most played 100%
>Implying you won't level more alts when you're stuck at level 20 for a month.
>>581066221I just logged onto wowforever and took this SWEET screenshot in Ashenvale, rate my screenshot.Ps. I hate the retarded grey/vaseline filter, it looks fucking terrible and I know for a fact you can't turn that shit off.
>>581066738Dual spec is in, no personal loot, ruleset choice is permanent with the exception of HC being able to pick PvP or PvE if they die.
>>581066841Yeah it was called Hellfire Penisula and it made you throw all your Molten Core gear in the garbage after 4 hours of questing.
>>581066386out of all the 2019 introduced streamers I find guzu up there for the absolute most annoying. Xaryu though an obnoxious basedscreaming homosexual with a beard wife is admittedly a good frost mage (in pvp) Payo is really good (and kinda funny ngl, good content). Savix has no personality so i dont really need to mention himso it comes down to esfand and guzu for the most insufferable, i think guzu takes the cake personally cause his entire SHTICK is taking something everyone already knows and explaining it like hes an expert for 30 minutes"so i dunno if you guys know but in vanilla there was this questline to figure out who Stalvan mistmantle was, and basically he was like this crazy guy who fell in love with a farmers daughter he was teaching and ..."
>>581066738Yes, No, Yes there's no warmode or whatever what you pick is what you pick - they did a really bad job of explaining it turning the panels
>>581066497What if Stratholme is alive and well, and this time we save it and convince uther & jaina to join Arthas? Absolute KIN->Nah just phone it in, leave stratholme undead dungeon ingameNow i ask you, do you think blizz will do the effort thing or the easy thing?
i only like plate armor aestheticsi just want a raid spot dont matter what i doPaladin or Warrior and why? Gonna ask is this after beta is out so we have new info
>>581066768So do most monk abilities. don't worry about it.
Will Yrel be in Forever
>>581066869>Molten Core geartry naxx lmao
>>581066889>draeneiwhat do you think
they said you can totally ignore skelf isle its just a starting zone. there's nothing there for you nothing to farm
>>581066841>transmogs are the same as expansions invalidating all your gear from the last 2 years and adding flying mounts making all your ground mounts instantly worthlessretard
>>581065027Yes because one will give +10 DPS against beasts :)
>>581066880you can transmog plate looks at lvl60 even if you are a clothiezero limitations
I'm not picking a main yet.I find it hard to believe there aren't going to be big talent/racial reworks a 3~ weeks before live after all the beta testers break the game wide open.
>>581066889In forever canon Yrel is currently in outlands being used as a breeding slave by orcs
>>581066661Some of the established big sellers have dedicated section for private server gold
>>581066867still pissed that I can not play Hardcore on launch, uuuuu we want you to find the optimal and savest way to get to max level firstwow sounds real hardcore to me.......
>>581066784Turtle wow also had overpowered paladins funnily enough. Quite handy for quick strath ud runs.
>>581066952>even if you are a clothie>zero limitations?They litterarly said you can only transmog cloth to cloth or am i mistaken
>>581066952Pretty sure the limitations that go away at 60 are regarding level requirement since transmog is account wide and they don't want your level 1 shaman to run around in T3.
>>581066981>I find it hard to believe there aren't going to be big talent/racial reworksThere will be, it's already underway.
hear me out, progression wisetier sets focus on a specific ability or spec if its a dps class.so lets say tier 1 mage set is a frost mage tier set, most of its set bonuses favour the frost talentsthen tier 2 favours fireBUT if you combine half of tier 1 and half of tier 2 theres a secret set bonus that boosts frostfire dmg for example
>>581066867will forever have petri? :^)
>>581066952That's not true, they specifically said you can only do plate to plate and mail to mail.
>>581066897Didn't a chinese guild famously clear black temple in naxx gear because their client release all of Outland at once?
>>581066992Uhhh pisses me off it's the only mode I want to play.
>>581066952No you can't. They literally said transmog is armor type limited.
>>581066920wtf are you comparing, I was just asking
>>581066897I made it to level 64 in original TBC and felt raped when my Rogue had to unequip my tierset and epic amazing weapons and trinkets for a clown suit. I ended up quitting untill 2019.
>>581066952>zero limitationsThat is for the next retail update. Transmog in Forever still has to match your armor type.
>>581066984In forever canon im using Yrel as a breeding slave (im a human male warrior, white
>>581067076the raped
>>581066952Not how it works, limitations are still there.They just allow you to have "back ups" so if you find a cloth shoulders for your palatroon you can swap the plate transmog and have a cloth transmog at the ready.
>>581066952https://www.wowhead.com/news/transmog-restrictions-will-remain-for-weapons-and-class-gear-382881Sissydress chama...
>>581066917they literally said theyd go back to it with dungeons and raids tho, they already said theres a faction that alligned with alakir
>>581066981The crazy thing is that the beta is only going to 30.Think of all the endgame content that we're relying on Blizzard's 'internal test team' to have balanced and ready to go.
>>581067126they raped me and I even bought the goyim collectors edition for TBC
>>581067026that was pre lvl60>>581067037that makes no sense, which level requirement wouldnt you pass at lvl60? there wont be lvl70 gear around that you cant transmog
>>581067114yeah whatever timmy she doesn't even know what humans areorcs canonically pillaged and raped draenei females
>>581066992>>581067060It's blizzard, the game is going to be a buggy mess. They dont want people bitching that a random mob 1 shot them because when they copied and pasted it from retail they forgot to edit its attributes
forever doesn't seem very good
is forever for me if i don't want to talk to people
I hope for the love of good that they gonna add some armor class bonusgiven they want to keep vanilla itemization i cant deal for 10 years plus plate leather and chain niggers rolling on my cloth>>581067196Retard anon they litterarly said on stage they dont want clothies to wear plate and vice versa are you retarded or farming outrage?
It seems amazing
>>581067230its not called WoW Very Good for a reason, really makes you think hmm?
*TING TING TING* FUCK RETAIL
>>581067051I'm not sure, I imagine it will, but Blizzard also said a ton of their new crafting recipes are specifically for Hardcore.
>>581067271absolutely not, go to the retail rape pits
>>581067160>I even bought the goyim collectors edition for TBCToo bad is wasn't classic collectors that shit is like $10,000 these days for people who held onto one
So the first class is bard? Kinda gay
>>581067271yes.in-game chats died over a decade ago. Theres no reason to even have the chat window clutter your screen unless you want to amuse yourself with the mental retardation of others.
>>581067282yeah before lvl60sub 80 IQ mutts cant read I seeZERO LIMITATIONS AT LVL60 (except weapon types)
Will I regret leveling 1 of every class?
>>581067363Depends how autistic you are
>>581067363I'm sorry to say that you will have fun
when does the 30 days sub comes active with the wowforever bundle, when the games launches?
>>581067346Says who?
What's to stop me from naming a character something like RUNIG GERLOCK
reetaail miiinuuusclap clap clap clapretaaail miinuuus
>>581067196>which level requirement wouldnt you pass at lvl60?That's what I mean m8.>pre 60You can't transmog to gear that requires you to be level 60 (such as T3 gear).And it goes on like that in 10 level intervals. If you're level 40 you can't transmog your gear to look like gear that requires level 41 to equip, and so on.60 is the cap in forever so the restriction effectively goes away.
>>581067363No, the alts are super friendly in WoW Forever. You'll unlock exp boosts with each new character that will streamline your alt leveling and gearing crunching it down into mere hours.
>>581067425Immediately. Beta lasts basically untill launch so you're paypigging to play a month early essentially.
>>581067363I said to my brother about that achievement points talent tree i seriously hope it's not expected you level one of each class to 60 just to cap it out that would be fucked most people agree it won't be that bad
>>581065873ewww
>>581067425YesThe bundle on bnet has all the fine print when you click on it
>>581067425yes. i think the beta doesn't require a sub
>>581067425On november, yes.It's all designed so you don't have to give a flying shit about any other form of wow.
>>581066784Is there some sort of correlation between an obese fat ass like Aggrend and Esfand and having a strong preference for pally?
>>581067359No, you fucking moron. Armor type restrictions apply at every level.
>>581067302I have the classic collectors edition but its only worth like few hundred
>>581067458>Immediatelythats clearly not true cause its not active right now you retard>>581067481>>581067479>>581067475thhanks friends
>>581067363i have only done that once. normally i get bored of leveling on the 4th character
>>581067446Would be Clap clap clapclapclap
>>581067286kek truuuuueeethis is going to flop like the slop it is!
>>581067506Retard dipshit when you buy the faggot pass it immediately gives you 30 days of active game time.
>>581067498Had to be unused code for mini diablo
>>581067363Not if you actually enjoy vanilla leveling? Some people keep replaying vanilla just to level. The endgame is honestly trash.
>>581065710>greenfieldnoticing yet?
They should make it so Curse of Shadows/Curse of Elements breaks mob immunities, like how it works in D2 Resurrected
>>581067459We're limited to 16 talent points in the legacy tree at launch but you can earn up to 65 points. So at least at launch you won't need to worry about it and you've got time to stockpile points for whenever they add more.
>>581067363no? imagine not using 100% of your monthly sub
>>581067363you literally have to do everything to max out all the passive bonuses
>>581067526Slop doesn't flop. It sloshes.Tired of people talking about things they don't know the first thing about.
What the fuck is with all these retail nerds jumping into forever?Holy shit even the most mazed retoilets keep talking about forever it doesn't fucking STOP.Where people really just waiting for a reset and were just stuck with retail because of sunk cost?
>>581067541Not true i just checked my gametime and it's 4 days remaining. Must be auto on launch or manually activated perhaps when we can access login screen
>>581067574that breaks immunities as a boss fight mechanicno can do brocacho
>>581067613our version of wow is really bad at the moment and we like QOL shit that this game version has, not that hard to understand
>>581067594Anon the legacy stuff caps at 16, the rest is cosmetics.You CANNOT get everything, you CANNOT get the free reagent stuff without sacrificing something for example.
>>581066995Turtle pally scaled like shit, Warriors did better, with the last patch rogues also did better and that's just meleesProt was the best for easy content like 5 mans, but still had a lot of issues for raid tanking compared to warriors which just worked, Druids shat on both in ST threat but also had its issues
>>581067613Gonna play both :)
>>581067363you have to, or no invites... see: >>581067594
>>581067447>at level 60 you can transmog lvl 60 itemsthats obvious, there is zero reason to specify thatwhich means when they said transmog restrictions disappear at 60 they meant armor types
>>581067613>new retail patch/xpac comes out>rush through the m+/raid/pvp rewards in the first 2 weeks>sit around with nothing left to doThis has been retail for the past 4 xpacs. I'd want a hard reset too.
>>581067613Retail shilled the big 3 part arc and the first 2 expacs were filler again.and wow retail is in a filler troll patch for the next 4 months. if you're subbed to retail forever is 4free anyways
>>581067613Even if it were no changes people all around the world get super hype for every single Fresh-start-serverthe hype cycle will end though, the threads will slow to 3 day+ to reach bump limit
>>581067526they should have called it WoW Slop Flop LMAOOOO
get discouraged! i hate blizzard get discouraged and stop being excited!
>>581067485esfat plays paladin because he's brown and playing paladin lets him pretend he's some kind of ubermensch aryan instead of an obese hairy swarthoid straight out of the bronze age.
>lol 1000 chatgpt designed quests>meanwhile the retail quests designed by a humanI honestly think chatgpt would shit out better classic quests than the retards in the retail team
I'd play retail if they reverted to a TBC/Wrath patch and balanced the modern content around the old classes.
I just realized we're gonna get some more alex rage compilations
realistically though, having Yrel as a breeding slave would be insane. like, for one thing look at those curves, now for the other, you have a tail to pull on, you have horns to grab onto, the amount of ramming and forced swallowing you can accomplish is staggering
>>581067613Midnight s2 was really bad and a lot of people feel like there's nothing to do until TLT launches.Forever is a fun seasonal activity to fill the void.
So if this does not have an internal cooldown its 5% extra damage and 5% lifesteal?
>>581067671>our version of wow is really bad at the momentI have not heard a version of retail wow that wasn't BAD at the moment since legion (and even then it still kinda fucking sucked)Battle for Azeroth released almost TEN YEARS AGOTENYEARSAGO(10)YEARSThe timeline has been>BFA>Shadowlands>Dragonflight>war within>midnight
>>581065248Fuck off cuck
>>581067613>Where people really just waiting for a reset and were just stuck with retail because of sunk cost?Are you familiar with boomer divorces? Same idea.>slowly grow to hate each other>only stay together for the kids(guild)>no other option for decades>suddenly a hot, younger version of what they liked shows upThe funniest example for me was Bellular. A decade of "it's over, we're back!" since WoD and every lore video since DF is "holy shit I like the game enough but this writing is just too bad." He barely talks about classic but the week before Blizzcon he starts mentioning that it would be nice to switch games to something fresh but built to last.
>>581067701the 16 point cap is only at launcheventually you will have over 100 pointsyou will have to max all classes, races, proffs, do every raid, dungeon, reach pvp rankseverything or you will be worse in pvp and pve
Would Nyhm like Forever?Is he still alive?
>>581067840>it's not science if you don't write it downMillenials should have never been given jobs in the game industry.
>>581067862We assume so but we really won't know until we can datamine the beta.
>>581066784>evokerwhat were they THINKING
anyone got screenshots of Alexensual sexting with a fat austalian about kangaroo RP sex in the bedroom?
>>581067865>What if we just did nothing but gay shit for 10 years and all of the quality of life was 15 years too late and nobody fucking cares anymore.
>>581067728I'm pretty sure that's not what they meant, even though it was explained badly, but we'll know in less than a week now regardless. Or worst case scenario, a few months.Not that I even give much of a shit anyways since it's on a toggle.
>>581067728you're a fucking moron.
>>581067613Imagine being stuck in retoilet for decades it must be like coming out of a federal supermax penetentiary to be able to ruin vanilla all over again turning it into retail from the start
>>581067931>Is he still alive?No, reckful landed on him
>>581067865>>BFA>>Shadowlands>>Dragonflight>>war within>>midnightgrimhow do retail players tolerate this?
>>581067980>>581067865blizz intentionally dripfed quality of life changes to retail to get more bullet points on their 8 dungeons 3 raids 4 zones formula
>>581067958The same thing they where thinking throughout all of shadowlands>I hate the players so what can I add to the game they will loathe forever?
>>581067865>I have not heard a version of retail wow that wasn't BAD at the moment since legion8.1 and 8.2 were okay. 8.3 sucked but at least corruptions were fun.9.0 had a very good raid but then 9.1 nearly killed the fucking game. 10.0 had a lot of HYPE and CHANGES but then the raid sucked and the follow up patches were lukewarm.11.1 was carried by UndermineThat's about it.
>>581067862????the amount of damage and healing it does it based on your max health, so tanks will benefit more from it since they have huge life poolsthe faster you attack the more often it procs
>>581067613Retail sucks dude.The way it works is retail players play for a month get bored and do other shit until a new patch then they go back to retail and thr cycle repeats
>>581067862If this has no internal cooldown it's absolutely fucking broken. They will probably add a "Can occur once every 60 seconds" or every fucking melee DPS / Tank will funnel into undead
>>581067923Nothing in any of the trees will really help you perform any better in PvE or PvP in any meaningful way. Nothing in there boosts your damage or stats or give you any kind of gear improvements.
>>581067819HOLY BASED
Dear warriors please remember to decline ALL non-healing paladins, druids, and shamans. The hybrid was made to heal and all these changes are simply unacceptable.
>>581068030>how do retail players tolerate this?They play for a month, get all the seasonal FOMO rewards, then quit until next patch.
>>581068010Im in mensa, the probability of you EVER talking to some one smarter than me is under 0,1%
>>581068040Dragonflight spent a whole lot of time telling you about this exciting adventure you could have exporing their 30 minutes of open world content before hitting cap and afking in cities like every other expansion but now professions are weird
We need a horde - alliance pact to kill all paladins and not to intefer when one is getting jumped in world PvP
Leveling dungeons are gonna be raped when every alt has the early talents perk maxed out.
What would this guy say about WoW Forever?
>>581068132I also decline DPS warriors and priests. They were made to tank and heal
There are people on battlenet forums asking for personal loot o_o
>>581068072So how does it work exactly which makes it so good?
>>581068159Dungeon leveling is dead
>>581068030>Resub for 2 weeks and get KSM and raid/pvp stuff >Unsub for 6 months untill new patch
>>581068091at launchand some of them do help in open world pvp
>>581068161idk he probably has a video about it right now
>>581068159wdym? leveling dungeons are gamer dad tier anyways
>>581068161He's dead of ass cancer, so nothing, I surmise
>>581068204As I said retail players are like locus that destroy any field they infect They’ve made retoilet into the stinking shit it is today now they’re jumping to a new fresh field to destroy
>>581068159I don't think warriors getting Mortal Strike 5 levels early is gamebreaking
>>581068150>Dragonflight spent a whole lot of time telling you about this exciting adventure you could haveI've really, really come to loathe this forced wanderlust stage dressing Blizz and a lot of companies keep shoving into games. It always makes me think of those old E3 on stage demos where they do the fake gamer group setups. Just reeks of corpo dishonesty.
>toilet vs classic discourse nonstopOkay but has anyone checked on /xivg/? Evercold was supposed to be their big shakeup 2.0 expansion with a lot of changes and it just got completely btfo. Surely they’re all acking left and right.
Auschads in the beta for buying goyslop. WINNING!
>toggle old models or new.I think they should have taken the old models and just built from there with extra detail vs the toggle. Kinda how what they did with the graphics of the world. Skeleton animation swapping is GREAT though and should come to retail>new zonesThats cool and fine, though i feel like a lot of old zones will be dead now>class changesA given. Wont know until launch>focus on lvl 60 evergreen onlySeems fine but I am skeptical of the scope of this project post first year>reducing gold sinksno point if they do not address the insane botting and rmt problem that personally ruined anniversary for me>race/class new combosTotally chill imo, UD pally is gonna be super popular>tone and writingThe cinematic completely missed the mark imo, it did not at ALL give off warcraft vibes and that's with the music as well. It felt VERY dragonflight in tone. This bodes ill tidings for the 1000+ quests they wrote>transmogI think transmog is very anti-classic. Yeah i can toggle it but that means other people see my character in clown armor and how you look really matters in mmos. When you cant transmog i feel eventually you will toggle it on. Personally i think this would have been the BEST time to do a dye system since vanilla gear doesnt have different recolors as rewards >SkyborneEverything else i talked about i could get past but this race i think is a huge red flag that they have a horrible leadership and direction problem. This one race addition has made me not want to play at all, like the idea of being in Ironforge or ogrimmar and having a bright blue high def elf with 10000 more polygons than my dwarf running by and turning into an ass pull druid would piss me the fuck off. The lack of just fucking taking the low hanging fruit of ogres and high elves is so annoying and putting so much time and resources into top 10 worst warcraft ideas ever bodes VERY BAD for the future. honestly worst race added to the game (including dragons)
>>581068152what the fuck was the deal with that weapon anyway? an axe that's a gigantic modern safety razor blade? like wtf.It's like if they added a gun that happens to look exactly like an M4.
>>581067840That botanist quest chain in karesh was the absolute worst shit I have ever done in a game. It goes on for like 110 quests of mindnumbing garbage
>>581068030Retail is played like an ARPG at this point.>rush max level>farm everything>do the raid>quit
>>581068204there's retards on reddit that want Tauren paladins again too
Let's not forget who is in charge of wowf. At first it will actually be kind of fun. Occasionally an unc will go "what the fuck is this" when seeing a shop mount or some skelf ERP, but he will continue, because overall, the novelty is awesome.Then, just like SoD, the realization starts to sink in. It's still the shitty blizzard that ruined wow and left so much potential on the road. The same Blizz that cloesd down all the private servers, and that is grasping for straws to keep money coming in at the cost of the player, for close to 0 additional benefit. The first servers become empty. Then some more. After about half a year, you're left with the question what else you can play, now that everyone is gone and the fun / engagement is not quite what you expected it to be. Waiting for the next classic re-re-release or screaming for an "actual real classic+" or worse yet, going back to retail. And each time you go through this, you are now older and realize the mmorpg market is not getting any better. That WoW is fucked... forever
They're going to add housing to Forlo right?How can it be my forever home without a home to call home?
>>581068227True. Do it once for quests and then never go back no matter how hard your guildies beg you to tank. Who the fuck wants to waste half their afternoon for half a bar of exp.
>>581068058So warlocks would benefit from it really nicely as well? I did read that dots can proc it.
Classic WoW could run perfectly on my non-gaming lenovo, do I need to get an actual gpu for this?
>>581068161>"I'm old and cautiously optimistic"50/50 chance he would be a political streamer by now too.
>>581066546>spends 20 minutes complaining about the cinematicis he retarded?
>>581068437Yes 5060 Ti is minimum to run their FOG
>>581068303 million things to show but it's allways just the same content with a coat of paint in retail for 15+ years. They gave up a long time ago at actually evolving the gameplay at all beyond (keystones) and (delves)
>>581068357At least tauren look decent in plate armor.Undead paladin mains are going to get hit with buyers remorse HARD when they see how fucking bad they look at 60 even with transmog.
>>581068231The only talent shown that would have any effect on world pvp is X% increased honor gains. Which again doesn't improve your performance.
>>581068030wow retail is designed around the general gaming standard> NEW PATCH WOAW> Flood the media space with your marketing budget to get it in front of people> everyone plays for 2-3 weeks> next game releases a NEW PATCH WOAW> They buy the media space with their marketing budget> rinse and repeatIts actually one of the most damaging thing POE popularised with their seasonal updates/patches.And then Fortnight took it to the extreme during covid. Getting everyone to replicate it.
>>581068393>The same Blizz that cloesd down all the private serverstipped your hand right here, seething turtletroon lmaorest of post: ignored.
>>581068405not having housing in there was actually shocking. I would NOT do the neighborhood system of retail (it does not work imo) I would just have a portal in each capital (like the stormwind portal that was supposed to be housing back in actual vanilla) and have it take you to a little plot near the city for you to build based on your race. A lot more barebones but using the tools they have in retail
>>581068393The median age of this general is 40+
>>581068321This is what it would look like in Wow forever, that'll be 30$ plz
>>581067565I’m not please elaborate What is the greenfield connection
>>581068441>WTF are Data Centers
>>581066546I agree with everything he said but nitpicking the trailer isn't killing any of my excitement for the actual game in any way whatsoever.
>>581068058If it's always equal to 5% of your max life then it should say equal to 5% of your maximum health
>>581068469>to run their FOGWhich is mandatory and non optional.
>>581066546Oh god this fucking video. It's seriously half an hour of him complaining about NOTHING. Just nitpicking issues that don't even fucking exist. This may seriously be the worst WoW commentary video ever constructed.
>>581068553surely there is a setting to disable the fog, or even a console command with leatrix plus
>>581068393possibly brownest poster on the site
>>581068435true, that sounds insanely strong for a soul link lock in BGs
thinkin' bout f'rever wowin'
>>581068058>>581068598I doubt it scales from your max health, it probably does a percentage of your attack/spell damage, and the 5% max health thing is just a failsafe against huge spikes from weird circumstances.
>>581068161its not 60fps
>>581068675I love bobcuts.
>>581068654there's a checkbox you can tick or untick at your whim in grafics settings
>>581068506I'm not even a private server andy and for that matter, haven't played wow in while, even though I really want to. I want wow to be good, but the closing of pserver is the epitome of pettiness. And by trooning out against pservers and indirectly supporting blizz only shows your mental illness and retardation even more
>>581068654>he’s toggling sovlfogngmi
>>581068553>we want the chinese audience
>>581068598It says UP TO 5% of your max hp so I assume the damage is capped at that, but not always dealing 5%.I'm sure the sim nerds will figure it out day 1 of beta regardless.
>>581068492everything that speeds up a part of the game will effect pvp because you will be higher level and better geared because you a further on in character progression
>>581066546the only redeeming part of 2019 was exposing all these guys as larpers who are and were shit at the game and pissbabies who can't actually stand being the one getting ganked
is forever going to live up to the hype
>>581068675So if blue Skyborne are the ones practicing shamanism, does that mean this cutie is with the Horde?
>>581068675thinkin' bout marrying and making babies with blueberry sex elf as a male human warrior.
why are people saying dungeon leveling is dead? what did they do to it? where are you retards pulling this shit from
i (mid 30s) want an older 50s gamer gf woman to peg me.
This is a different timeline Metzen called this our "time bubble"
I get a genuine chuckle when I think about being a retail developer.You've worked on a game and "upgraded" it gradually for 15 years and most of the fans are straight up saying "I really wish you hadn't done any of this, undo it and start again."
>>581068775nothe question is if its going to be fun for more than 10 000people (which is about what you need for a live service multiplayer game)
>>581068675I’m not even hating but this smile looks so unnatural and forced. I don’t like it. >>581068737It’s pretty simple to understand if you have white skin. The proc drains no more than 5% of the enemy’s max HP, and heals no more than 5% of yours. This stops you from full healing off of a proc just because you’re fighting a raid boss with a huge health pool.
>>581068796they want to stop boosting so you get 1 dungeon per day before the xp gets cut by like 60% its from the deep dive on sunday
>>581068796They are nerfing mob exp and buffing quest exp so the design intent is to group up and do the quests and then move on instead of farm SM 30 times
>>581068693even if its only a failsafe cap it still will scale with your max health
>>581068796They said they are nerfing xp from killing dungeon mobs but buffing dungeon quest xp bigly, the idea being you run a dungeon a handful of times instead of a billion times.
>>581068846>>581068861>>581068873uh based blizzard
>>581068846Why not just hard cut it with 0% exp? The math might still work for boosting at 40%
>>581068226nobody knows you esl motherfucker
>the music in these new zones is the retail-like overdone generic fantasy tracks that clash with the classic's ambient musicHow do people not talk about this?Does everyone play with music off or something? Is everyone really THAT soulless?
>>581068918It's a 60+% cut on top of the group xp nerf it will be comically terrible xp gains to spam dungeons for anything but farming items.
>>581068820You know life is all about trying, failures, and trying again, right?
>>581068918cant boost with aoe caps
>>581068058based illiterate nigger. also everything in wow these days is ppm, why would this be different?
>>581068918At 40% xp you're better off solo grinding mobs outside.
>>581068820Honestly being a dev for any live service game must be an insane humiliation ritual, people hate any change you make and the only people that praise you are some redditors hunting for karma once in a while.
OO-HOO-HOO-HOO-HOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhFlmQcmfKM
>>581068934Yes most people play with Spotify on or Youtube they aren't getting fully immersed.
>>581068934Anon I'm listening to political podcasts so I have ammo for barrens chat
>>581068952My only hope is that they learn from their mistakes.
>>581068870I guess technically but I think you will never actually hit the 5% max health limit in normal gameplay. For example, they probably want to avoid you stacking gigabuffs like BG berserking with all your class cds and pots and whatever else and fishing for oneshots with crits + bonus shadow proc damage, capping at your max health prevents that. But without stacking a million buffs you probably won't hit the 5% limit ever.
>>581068934I only listen to japanese porn asmr when I game>>581068963>you have 5% chance>its going to be ppmlearn to read
>>581068996They do, but then they get reassigned to different departments and fresh nepo hires who think they can do no wrong get brought in to replace them.
>>581068934What the fuck are you even talking about? Where is the new music? Where have you heard it? I watched 4 different people play the blizzcon test and none of them had music enabled. The only thing we’ve heard is the cinematic song. If you wanna just complain about every little fucking thing why are you here? Why are you wasting your time? Go to era. Go to work. Call your parents. Do literally anything else than forcing the rest of us to listen to your incessant bitching.
>>581068934yes.theres a reason why hour long background AI music has millions of views on youtube.
>>581068806she literally looks like a witch. look at the nose
>>581069000God you're such an insufferable faggot
>>581069000Kek
>>581068978Huh, weird.
>>581068161>EEeeeePIC>Ladies and gentlemen, my name is totalBiscuit and I'm here to answer one simple question>WTF is.... World. Of Warcraft Forever>To put it simply World of Warcraft Forever is Classic Plus>Now what is Classic Plus. >To put it simply it's vanilla with horizontal scaling.>Horizontal meaning...oh 10 minutes means I get paid.>See you next time>EEeeeePIC
Why is anything retail related so shit
Time to save for WoW tributes, the king of games is back babe!
>>581069070Upvoted!
>>581068987Gotta have a few nukes ready at any time.>"You know I just don't respect women">"I'd vote for him a fourth time."usually gets a few immediately.
>>581069016well a pve geared mage without buffs can probably hit it once they are like t3 and 500 spell dmg or some shit but only 3000hp
>>581069024>I only listen to japanese porn asmr when I gameshits unreal bro, I have never gooned so hard in my life since discovering that shit, not even as a teenager with access to internet porn.
>Gnome fire mage>Pop Combustion>cast...cast...cast...cast...CRIT!>Pop Eureka!>CRIT, CRIT, PYROI'm gonna light you up, sweet cheeks!
>>581069089>ayeee the bars are more readable the game is ruined help me addonsman!>installs ElvUIGoddamn
What does "Grow herbs" mean with respect to tauren racials
>>581069047I'm sorry if you thought I was pissing in your cereal, but this is my first post in this thread.
>>581069089Yeah it’s really a shame this game historically has zero addon support or UI customization. We’re all gonna be FORCED to look at this. There are literally zero other options.
if undead get to reclaim upper lordaeron they are by far the winners of year 1 forever. who even gives a shit about dalaran
>>581068978keep posting the skluts
>>581069042*SCRAWWWW*>Hand ME the orb, sisters!
>>581069024>>581069140is that enjoyable if you don't know moonrunes?
>>581069142nearly all the alliance racials got buffs and then look at horde racials...>orc nerfed>undead nerfed>i guess trolls can heal now lmao?they buffed ally racials too much. the mega server will be 80% alliance in 2-3 months.
>>581069169quit defending retail, tranny
>>581069140do you have noise cancelling headphones?are you using this site? https://japaneseasmr.com/
>>581069178How about classic UI and frames being the default in CLASSIC plus and you can install retail slop addons
>>581069029From Savix's beta play.
>>581069174Flavor text. 99.9% it’s just gonna be a proc for extra herbs when you gather.
>>581068503Fortnite actually did a decently big patch every 2 weeks and a big patch every month or so, with massive patches between seasons.It's not that fortnite took it to the extreme, it's that everyone else fucking sucked at it
>want to roll undead warlock>tirisfal is going to be fucking PACKED by undead fking paladins
>>581069174think of mining where sometimes you get a 4th swing instead of 3
>>581069174either herbs you can loot even without herbalism will spawn around you randomly or you will simply loot herbs from mobsgoing to be pretty annoying bag space wise if you are not a herbalist already
SOD IS HERE TO STAY
>>581069259what's the issue? use them as your healer / tank pawns
>>581069259Yeah fuck that I’m peacing it from tirisfal to mulgore
>>581069232>How about classic UI and frames being the default in CLASSIC plus and you can install retail slop addonsLiterally the first fucking thing they ask you when you start up the game is which of the two looks you want. Before you even log on to a server or see the character screen you have an option to pick how you want it to look.
>>581069212undead were buffed thoughbeit? mp on cannibalize and touch of the dead rather than just wotf
>>581069232Or you could just stop crying like a stupid bitch
>>581069259all named Arthasx Lightbringer or somesuch
>>581069297Yes, we want more than 4 specs to be viable. It's crazy I know.
>>581069250Apparently it doesn't require herbalism though
*touches your face*agooooo... wowo wawa fawawa..
>>581069259They will get layered though?
>>581069259you get to tag father than them so just think about that
>>581069210I dont really care about what they say, it just sounds sexy with sex sounds, moaning, ear licking, kissingand you learn some repeating words pretty quicklyor you can read about the "story" on the site
>>581069089I prefer the retail bars desuI never liked the stock ui, and I have never played legit wow past cataclysm. I have used some kind of unitbar addon since 2006, might not have to bother with this new UI though.
>>581069351>warlock dots>taggingyou've never played a warlock
>>581069297I've already lost hope about it, but if it's in I'll be happy.
>>581068952In the case of blizz devs:>try>fail>ignore it and try something else>fail at thatRepeat forever until eventually you start failing at the things you already failed before
>>581069310Yes and they all chose the classic option but were force fed retail slop anyway
>>581069212They should make the Tauren racial not only increase movement speed but also the damage of the first attack you make after you stop moving.It'd be funny as fuck to watch them go chugging across the battlefield and clotheslines the first player they see.
>>581069390>he doesnt know
>>581069390mein brother in christ this is not classic this is classic+ i bet warlocks get insant corruption or agony ticks or an instant immolate replacement tucked away they're hiding meta and other stuff too
>>581069414What's that, lies? Truly shocking.
>>581067865dragonflight was fine outside of the writing
>>581069217yesno, I just grab leaked shit from fansly and whatever else. used to be able to get a lot of it from kemono. there's also plenty of english speaking chicks doing it do.
>>581069297Forever is SOD but done right because the devs had to actually dev it for 1+ year this time not just shit out wotlk+ ideas.They've promised its always level 60.They've promised no wow token or boosts.This is literally classic+tons of new recipes and quests.and more we dont know about.the blue elf race is the only cringe so far.
>>581069429Instant corruption was in classic you larping nonce
>>581068796You WANT to do dungeons but only once or twice for those big quest runs.This might mean that some atrocious quests like fucking mothers milk is gonna be done by everyone every run because they can't spam other dungeons for exp and end game zones are probably gonna be packed.
>>581068929>its really good but why nobody knows
>>581069479INSTANTCORRUPTIONDAMAGETICKSNOTCASTesl fucktard
>>581069212Do you even know how to read? Horde racials got buffed to>Orc>stun racial changed to retail version. more of a rebalance than a direct nerf>can now remove curses>blood fury doesn't reduce healing and gives both ap and sp>Troll>berserking no longer based on how much hp you are missing>got the zandalari healing active>Undead>gained a damage proc>cannibalize now restores mana>Tauren>gained plainsrunning>gets a free +1% hit in their stamina racial
>>581069396In the case of Blizzard it's "never have an original idea and copy everyone's homework"They copied Everquest 2They copied WarhammerThey copied Team Fortress 2They copeid DotAThey're copying Old School Runescape
playing wc3 reforged for the first time, never being a lore guy:So im sure they fudged this to have more classes but how the fuck does the horde (and i guess to a lesser extend the alliance) warlock when the entire wc3 campaign is how thrall hates them?
>>581069062Try this link insteadhttps://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/558937( ^_^) b>>581069198I'm using AI to generate new slut artBuilding a folder to unleash on release dateRemember, remember the 4th of November
>>581069456No lies, the classic option did not change ui, frames or bars, they were all hard fixed retail.
>>581069297I'm gonna be pissed if warlock and shaman tanks make it in but not rogue.
>>581069507Yeah, you’re still wrong
When are we making some wowfg porn threads?
>>581069469I don't mind them toning shit down in terms of overall toolkits but I do want all the sod specs back (with more work).Lock tanking was actually very fun and functional, but I can see how they would need to prevent it from becoming the undisputed god of AoE tanking when they're nerfing that from sod. Same with shaman tanking, but that is in to a degree already.
dads!rise up!
>>581069469>devs had to actually dev it for 1+ yearTry several years, the fact they recreated every classic animation on the new models + all the shader and engine changes to facilitate the graphic changes and the new water plus all the new content blows most expansions out of the water.
>>581069525Blizzard is like chinese game companies
>>581069507only hunters and druids have instant tagseven ranged weapons take time to travel and cast
>>581069603yeh was gonna say this is as much content as 3 retail expacs now kek
>>581069336average eceleb poster's age when WoW came out
bros does the Tauren's movement speed bonus -30%- stack on top of the hunters cheetah 30% speed?????Should I play a speedy gonzales tauren hunter with 160% mov speed??????
>>581069537>log in to viewNo I don’t think I will
>>581069527>newfags discover that metzen was always a hackbrings a tear to my eyes
>>581069595What channel?
>>581069514do you have the pic that was posted here showing all of the racials?
>>581069601the main classic dev mentioned warlock and shaman tanking and hinted its not that right away but its gonna be down the line.they know.
>>581069527Because the story is about Thrall compromising with enemies for the greater good?Terenas by contrast refuses to compromise and refuses Medivhs warnings and that's what leads to the scourging of Lorderon.
>every other race getting huge racial buffs>meanwhile dwarves
>>581069537That one worked, thanks anon.
>>581069585Bards are gonna be the parry tanks in a future patch.Thank you for beta testing Rogues!
>>581069527you want spoilers dude?gul dan is the first warlock and after him some shamans turn to demons as well
arent the blue elves just highelves
>>581069629in era, sure. this is retail minus thoughbeit
>>581069708I kind of like Treasure + Profession tracking it'll make being a jew hunting chests easier.
>>581069729yes except even sexier, didn't think it was possible.
>>58106970810% less damage taken and break rogues blind is still goodcan also remove other nasty stuff with stoneform.gnome and night elf got mega buffs. they couldn't give dwarves a new OP thing too.
>>581068325transmog only exists to sell store cosmetics
>>581069169i never understood what people liked about ElvUIlike..sure both classic and retail ui look like fucking ass and are cancer to look at but, shockingly, ElvUI is somehow worse and yet all the retards with 2 neurons competing for third piled in on it.i just hope i can get Claude or something to adjust Shadowed Unit Frames and make it compatible with Classic+
>>581069537i will be there and i will be squarely loggin' in and lurking the skluts
>>581069736well we are talking about the starting zones at launch surely
>>581069527Same reason why the burning blade who has the Blademaster never properly made it into the horde: Shit changes and wow happens a couple years after wc3.People don't like lawyers and always shittalk them but they still need them, Orgrimmar was just founded and he cannot remove all the old orc ways in one go.In fact this is already deeply explored in the ragefire chasm questline in vanilla wow where this is exactly what happens, some warlocks are tied to the old ways of the legion horde while the new warlocks trying to take control of these demons to serve the horde are ratting them out to the warchief.Warcraft lore used to be insanely autistic and full of depth, younglings sadly don't remember this as the last 18+ years have been nonstop rape of said lore.
>>581069495nobody knows how it works. that guy said if it worked in a certain way then it would be really good. but nobody knows because the game is not out. based on the tooltip it should work like this: 1 in 20 instances of damage from your attacks and spells will deal 5% of your maximum hp as additional damage to the target. personally i dont think thats that broken its prob like 1-2% dmg or something certainly not bad but not op
What race+combo for a gathere just toake gold?
>>581069702NTA but in wc3 thrall never folds about warlocks>>581069721Its extremly funny that they made guldan a cuck and retard in every novel
>Poppers = huffed>femskelf healer = locked in>Weed = smoked>Vibe = insideIn 2 days my life will be pure kino
>>581069805yes and since this is retail, dots like agony and corruption will tag when applied, not on damage
>>581069317based toggler cum guzzler
>>581069835bad guys are badits disney writing for disney adults
>>581069782I always used whatever addon let me change unitframes into literally two featureless bars for health and mana. I hate portraits and prefer the UI to be as minimal as possible.
noob trap
>>581069834Gnome rogue
>>581069834tauren druid like it's always been in every version of wow ever.
>>581069887You can cry as much as you want the game isn’t changing. Either learn to like it or shut the fuck up. No amount of ebin poasting and seething will change reality.
Between elves on the horde AGAIN and fucking undead paladins I have a bad feeling that despite the obviously overtuned nigger broken alliance racials horde is gonna outnumber them even harder.
What if blizzard starts to make same mistakes they made with sod and retail?
>>581069895True, but the other human racials are pretty good
>>581069834Skelf mage with skimpy outfits and erp ready camp
>>581069895It's counterintuitively only gonna be useful in pve since it shares a cd with pvp trinket. Giving up the ability to trinket fear/poly/blind is way not worth getting an extra stat trinket slot.
The Image Togglers Dont Want You To See
>>581069895Trap? Its one of the best pvp racials in the game.
>>581069959most likely but alliance racials being OP across the board is a good stabilizer.
Is this going to be the Batman forever of warcraft?
>>581069972Good point...
>>581069965Then it becomes imperative that you stop giving them money. The reason retail is such a mess is because of the zombies who kept playing it.
>>581069895The biggest noob trap is war stomp since it immediately activates everyone's DR for very little gain. Quickest way to lose a team fight by blowing it right away.
>>581069965then we wait for forever+
>>581069959dki am not afking in the mudhut city, its ugly
>>581069895>WOTF is unironically betterHumans kinda suck now
>>581070014It's comfy as hell
>>581069708Stoneform is still amazing even if their other racials didn't get much love. At the very least none of the races have just outright GARBAGE racials like some of the retail races do (vulpera, lightforged, earthen, etc).
>>581070003see>>581069994
>>581069673it doesn't stack
>>581069174Human men are so lucky...
>>581069527He wanted to save his people even the evil bastards and it was part of his flawed noble morality he learned from being a slave to humans but being treated kindly by one.Grommash was his closest friend and ally and he was a bloodthirsty murderous psycho. He wanted to save him too and ended up being saved by him in the end.
>>581069959Horde has been a faction on life support since 2020Belf racial being OP for Zul was their last hurrah.
>>581070010Retail opinion, war stomp is enough time to pull off the batched chain lightning + earth shock one shot combo in classic.
horde are niggers
>orcs>major nerf to their stun resist racial>humans got will of the forsaken but for stunsSeems like someone at Blizzard really likes alliance.
>>581070047>t. no shoes mudhut lover
whos gonna be the king of shadow dmg? Spriest or WarlocK?
>>581070102>Horde has been a faction on life support since 2020in what universe these no shoes niggers always outnumber alliance on every fucking server
>>581070072Idk, skyborne seems kinda bad apart from some niche uses for the glider
>>581069948incredible that actual blizzard dick suckers existpeople like me who dont guzzle their nuts are the reason classic+ even exists
Which race/class counters paladins best?
why are all the retailers hyped about forever?
>>581069994It only shares like a 45s cd with the pvp trinket. It doesn't share a full cd with it. will of the forsaken works the same way.
>>58106989599% of people panic immediately pop this when you stun so if you're smart you'll play around this like trinkets anyways. WOTF is way stronger since locks/priests fear is turboaids 8+ second faggotry compared to a stun
>>581070162is that confirmed? because EMFH and its derivatives have historically shared a trinket cd.
>>581069959Most people are boomers who will go to the faction where they know where everything is and how to level efficiently I once tried an alliance alt but it was too much work to figure everything out, I would've needed to follow some guide so I just said fuck it and went back to horde
>>581069994Wait, the human stun racial shares a cd with the pvp trinket? But wotf does not? Is there confirmation of this?
>>581070127>someone at Blizzard really likes allianceundead paladin gets their own city hub class hall and has the best designed mount that’s ever been in classic. At level 40.
>>581070134SOVL
>>581070152I'm not convinced that any class in Forever will be able to beat an undead sl/sl lock
Alexensual runs this thread.
>>581067613its because you can be an elf in forever. thats the only reason its even on their radar
>>581070151you still guzzle their nuts just in a bratty masochistic way
>>581069998>Toggles off your post by filtering you
>>581070154They’ve clogged retoilet so full of shit from their retarded demands they need a new host to destroy
>>581069959Don't care, gonna play the faction I like because I'm playing pve
>>581070148Glider on only a 2min cd in a version of WoW where extra movement is hard to come by is really strong.
The change i most surprised by is they removed buffs from talent treesI would have bet money they would tripple down on making shaman and paladin proper supportsDont know what to think of it desu
>fem skelf shaman>last name stormfrontfits
>>581069998>furry artist style post dragonflight mobThis looks like retail on low settings
>>581070232glad you concede youre just a piss drinking bitch kek
>>581070154After 10 years since Legion they finally figured out that their game got turned into a seasonal action RPG instead of an MMO
>>581070134can't wait to see these sights with the engine update i thought most of the new global illumination made these things even better
They're going to give dwarf shaman something cool and unique like the undead paladin horse right?
Can I just subscribe to wow and play wowf without a retail key? I nuked my old wow account ages ago.
Which class will be more overpopulated, warriors or paladins?I like tanking dungeons and I don't want to play Druid.
>>581070151Keep crying, I think everything is about to change!
Is the Forsaken paladin charger going to be the same in retail as it is in Forever?
>>581070281you get an unique spirit wolf and totems and that's it faggotron.now pay the sub
>>581070260
>>581070294"crying" is the only reason youre here you lemming fuck
>>581070258I find this curious as well, especially with adding more buffs with that campfire setting
>>581070289Play shaman
>>581070289Warrior tanking is completely dead it will be paladins everywhere maybe an odd Druid here and there
>>581070267oh i wasnt the guy you were talking to just letting you know you guzzle blizzards nuts
>>581070281>blizzard>give shaman something coolkek, you'll get the same ghost wolf model and horde themed class sets and you'll like it
why do people think it's going to share cd with pvp trinket it's not retailalso classics pvp trinkets is different for every class and a 5min cd, only a few even remove stun>>581069895rogue propagandafem human master race
pickle rickgnome rogue with green hair
>>581070281I already bought and I am going to be nutting on this ass daily
>>581070284You don't need anything to play any form of classic except the sub, which extends to all forms of wow.You only need to buy the proper games/expansions if you're playing retail.
>>581070194Racials like that have shared a partial cooldown with pvp trinkets for over a decade now on retail. I think humans only did a full cooldown back when it used to remove ALL cc in like wotlk. It's only removed stuns for a long time now which is what the Forever version is.
>>581070340Really? Seems like you’re the one that’s here to cry…
>>581069892same. i dont even like player and target unitframes. since 2019 i've been using that personal resource bar addon that some dude has ported overim just using SUF for the party/raid frames.
>>581070423we should never criticize blizzard youre right im sorry lets all buy every store item...
>>581070302I'm sure it will be. I doubt Blizzard will make an entirely different mount based on game version.
>>581070385>>blizzard>>give shaman something coolIt's been like 20 years and blizz hating shamans like they raped their family is still a thing, how.
>>581070389>also classics pvp trinkets is different for every class and a 5min cd, only a few even remove stunWe have confirmation the Forever trinkets work like the retail ones where they remove ALL cc. I think Savix is the one who found the pvp vendor.
>>581070354I will, when Blizzard takes Shaman tank seriously.>>581070357>Warrior tanking is completely deadWhy?
BUY THE ELFYOUR WALLET WAS PROMISED TO BLIZZARD 3000 YEARS AGOBUY THE ELF
>>581068815
>>581070389It’s retail PvP trinkets
is the zul'farrak graveyard aoe farm still a thing or has that been patched out
>>581070418damn you're probably right then, I'm way more out of date than I thought. interesting, it will be much better than I assumed.
Will The Jailor be in Forlo?
>>581070484I wonder if they will give the updated paladins mounts for non undeads from retail
>>581070538Let me just log into my level 50 on Forever and check real quick you stupid fucking retard
>>581070339nuh uh, stormfront as a last name sounds like something out of shaman lore
>>581070509>>581070531ah yea still 5min cd thostill undead/orc rogue propagandahuman master race
>>581070460>>581069892I cannot live without some sort of portrait because of wc3.Doubly so if they're animated.
>>581069708Well Retail is getting a 3rd race of dwarves so
>Improved Stormstrike gives 50% mana regen while casting>Mental Quickness grants spell damage AND healing based on intellectHang on.. could I go something like 0/24/27 and get 100% mana regen while casting every time I stormstrike? Is a melee restro shaman build smacking the shit out of things with their staff feasible?
>>581070589w-waah... *cry*
>>581070228Why sl/sl? Is pic related not better?
My skelf will be named Gum Cuzzler
>>581069310No you don't retard, it just changes the layout of the UI, it also changes HD/SD character models but that's about it.
>>581070538>aoe limits>monster kill exp reducedI would say yes
Someone post the pic with all of the racials right MEOW
>>581070579Nah. If you're a draenei paladin, you will take your sixteen bit elephant mount and like it.
>>581070642I'm going to make a human male warrior with mining and call him Digger Nick
>guildie wants to do dungeon>i already did the questsyikes sorry pal that doesnt give xp!
>>581070625Yes the shaman theorycraft right now is staying in melee range as ele and using stormstrike (which also gives + nature damage debuff). We will have to see if they fix up the talent trees during beta because people don't like the fact that skipping out on lava burst could be meta.
>>581070625they want everyone who uses mana to gear for spirit>>581070672>draeneianon I...nvm
>>581070620so...?
do we like him?
>>581070750Oh, right, the poor goats aren't in Forever.
Lock Bros... Imagine how good the Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe is going to be in Forever.Finally that shitty questline will be worth it...
>>581070608Reminder garithos is now an undead abomination in the new wc3 expansion
>>581070663RIP humans
>>581070691hahaha WoW is so back
>>581066589Hunter
We won so fucking hard.
>>581070663https://talentsforever.com/
>>581070713>guildie wants to do a dungeon>restedexp doesnt tell me to run that dungeon at this levelyikes no can do
>>581070642Reet OiletPuhsydee Stroyer
>>581070715"beta" only goes to 30 so you cant test it anyway
>>581070803kek not surprised they made it wokeglad i decided to not play it even before knowing this
>retail UI>retail animations >retail models>retail Auction house >reskinned retail dungeons >retail itemization >retail monetization >retail writing>auto learned spells>no weapon skill >dungeon finder >nerfed dungeon exp >extra bag slots >heirloom talents >mobs die in 2 hits >quest markers built in game>Neutral blue elf race >No realms one big mega server
>>581070812when has that not been the casehas hunter literally ever been bad in any flavor of wow for the past 23 years for more than a couple months?
>>581070803Honestly that makes it seem likely he'll actually appear in Forlo
Darkspear shaman. And I will type in-game in the most stereotypical approximation of a Haitian accent possible.
>>581070495Tseric still creeps in at night sometimes and leaves threatening post-it notes on their computers.
>>581070828>undead paladin shits out a consecration>constantly healing 5% of their max hp (with a tank healthpool) from every mobsheeeeesh
>>581070828kinda weak how dorfs and trolls have the same beast damage bonus.
>>581070871and what's retail gonna do about it huh?
>>581070803This feels like a personal attack against racial purity they must really hate conservatives
>>581068642If Disneyfied slop is not an issue for you I'm afraid you are the problem bud. The childish atmosphere has become so normalized for you that you don't even notice it when even nixxiom, a fat loser who used to RP, still does. You are too far gone.
is there a pvp spell caster sword?
>>581070869People will still sim the numbers then screech at the devs anyway.
>>581070871>>mobs die in 2 hitshas this actually been confirmed that it will happen? and at what level did it happen?
>>581070803what sylvanas' cock does to a mf
>>581070871you can toggle all those things stop whining
>>581070782If they stick the landing he’s /ourguy/. If it sucks he’s cucked fatty.
>>581070943yeah at level 1 if you shoot 3 shadowbolts at a mob it dies 100% verified!
>>581070903see>>581068693>>581069016also it will have an ICD guaranteed.
>>581070871What's the actual argument against realmless?I haven't seen a coherent one.
human priests can't use swords gg
>>581070803>retarded nigger that set back humanity a hundred years and ensured horde and undead get to live because he hates knife ears finally gets its just desserts>NOOOOO THEY'RE WOKE MY WHITE PRIDE
>>581070903It'll probably only proc on single target abilities, if every tick of consecrate could proc it that would be busted
>>581070934dagger and staff for casters
>>581070642I got name changed after about an hour the first time I tried retail when I named myself futtbucker, don't get too attached to your spoonerism
>>581071010they can use my dagger though, humans got the bubbliest butt since no goats
>wanted to go tauren druid for the herb racial>blueberry druid forms look sickWhat now...
>>581070943all caster gear is getting fuck tons of spellpower theyre ruining the balance because retoilets get mad when they see spirit and agility on cloth gear
>>581070943he's basing that off of a clip from xaryu at literally level 1 in the skelf starting area.
>>581071000It's fucking retarded in the long run, how the fuck are they gonna do events like gates of ahn quiraj, are they gone forever?What about server communities, it's just a hodge podge of a bunch of people.How the fuck are the trade chats gonna work?What about resources, black lotuses, rare spawns and so on?It's such a massive core change that completely fucks up the essence of vanilla wow and not enough realize just how impactful this is gonna be until it hits them like a truck.
>>581070972>not going undead warlock for the drain health proc, making it a 2 shotngmi
>>581071010who the even knows anymore, in one of their pictures they had an orc in full leather armor wearing a shield and a sword, wtf class is that? rogue? shaman?
>>581070691If only dwarves could be mages, then I would be a Nerdy Digger
>>581069016>>581069119>>581070992What if it just did basically did 5% extra damage and healed you for the damage that you dealt?
>>581070806>>581070828Gnome priest pocket healers are going to be infuriating beyond belief.
>>581071087yes bro the 2 spellpower on your level 38 belt is gonna result in one shotting mobs
>>581071063not taking advantage of the human 2% spell crit racial then
>>581070803campaign was actually pretty good even if its just another rexxar style isntead of an actual RTS like i wanted
>>581071083>>blueberry druid forms look sickIt's LITERALLY a fucking retail mob almost copy pasted, what the fuck?Looks atrocious.
>>581070642mine will be Tum Cributer
>>581071160arent they allowing dwarf mage?
>>581071161it does not say that are you a crazy person?
>>581071104>how the fuck are they gonna do events like gates of ahn quirajyou mean that exact literal singular event of that type they ever made? It will work just like how it worked before, the first person to ring the gong and everyone who does so within 12 hours of that first person get the black qiraji and scarab lord.
>>581071104stop thinking in classic. think in retail and it all makes sense.
>>581071092>he's basing that off of a clip from xaryu at literally level 1 in the skelf starting area.Yesterday I had some nigger try to tell me that mobs in vanilla starting areas 3 shot players...
>>581070943Frost mages get fucking ice lance man, questing is gonna be a joke.
>>581071183huh? theyre adding a fuck ton of spellpower to even level 20 gear
>>581071180But also stress-relieving, especially if they have the pig tails.
>>581071210thats a cool lookin guy
>>581069729yes but they've been eating wind elemental turds for 1000 years and turned blue
>>581071238>you mean that exact literal singular event of that type they ever made?Except you're bundling 20 realms into one so any sense of community and realm identity is gone and any server event is a complete meme, are you fucking retarded?Are you fucking dense?
>>581071271Okay these items seem great fun, I am buying
>>581071210going to mog vanilla druid forms million to one
>>581071251they did in the turtle wow high-elf starting area, actually
I wonder if WC3 will be used to introduce more potential stories into Forever. The way they’ve set up the timeline to be “1 year after Warcraft 3” lets them basically canonize anything by making a new WC3 campaign and then migrating the lore and content into Forever. They gave themselves carte blanche to retcon whatever they want right under our noses and showed it off with this lousy forsaken campaign.
>belf players will unionize their votes and bring belves into forever>arcane torrent is back as a 7s silence>mana tap is backdon't like it? go back to retail
>>581071000Mostly just those who lack the imagination to comprehend that a worldwide megaserver allows them to do the same thing they already do but now your server doesn't randomly die or get tilted 90% to one faction forcing you to transfer off.
>>581071052Ay I'll spoon u
>>581071329Ahhh, now it all makes sense lol.
>>581071301>so any sense of community and realm identity is gonesource: trust me bro
>>581071271>inb4 X'caliboar's proc is multiplicative and deals 6x damage to undead swineCOMING FOR THAT ASS
>>581071210>>581068553KEK ACCURATE
>>581071330That is literally the entire point, this is the start of wow retconning after the titan saga was a failure
>>581071271>a fuck ton>16 on staff you'll use for 20 levelscongratulations, your frostbolt now does 3 more damage
>>581071104i dont believe them for a fucking second when they say you'll see "familiar faces" its all such bullshit this is going to be a mess
>>581071271casters are going to be insaneand with pet scaling toowarlock master race
>undeads new racial is absurdly good and will be nerfed>no on but blizzard actually knows how it truly works
>>581070006if only it was called warcraft beyond...
>>581071271Another great change. Boomers can seethe
>>581071396It's not retconning anything, it's fleshing out the lore.Retoilet was always a retcon from the start and now it's being correctly discarded.
>>581071271>2% movement speedThis is more Vanilla than anything else I've seen yet that's some evil stupid bullshit they would have gleefully put in vanilla in 2004.
How many hours until beta?
>>581070782the fact thats hes a retardin fanboy makes me not long him
>>581071332The funny thing about putting skelves in is that they can actually just never put blood elves into Forever now. Their most played retail race for years upon years is completely barred from entry now because they already used the models on skelves. Incredible foresight, Blizzard. That surely won’t come back to bite you in the ass ever.
Forever will outsell the entire shit saga and I can't wait to see retoilets malding
>>581071271holy shit 2 spellpen THAT'S INSANE DUUUUUUDE
>>581071405+3 damage from every item slotthat would be over 60 damage in a frost bolt that does what? 50 dmg?
Warcraft Tung Sahur
>>581071416so you said 2 spellpower and this is 16 spellpower thats a 700% increase from your prediction lol
>>581071271It's specifically on caster weapons
>>581071271>uses my worgenbane talisman on your worgen female to render her vulnerable and breedable
>>581071373Explain to me in length exactly how there's gonna be any sense of community and realm identity when everyone is bundled together in 30 different layers and anyone you see at any given time is gonna be a phantom that will never show up again.
Ok so who is the most fun/not slop class to play in new wow classic?
>>581070910ye but 3/5 horde races are beasts
>>581071210This is literally from shadowlands btw
>>581070927>i know how truly awful everything is and if you don't agree you are a bluepilled oblivious sheep, ignorance sure is blissThe polmind has got to be miserable and exhausting.
>>581071506you're saying this like blood elves were popular because people appreciated their lore or something, they are popular because they are hot which the sky elves are also. skelves will be a direct drop in replacement.also there is literally no reason they couldn't do blood elves later anyway, retail has no shortage of reskinned races.
>>581071559if you need an explanation you're not worth wasting time on, sorry grow up
>>581071559It's going to be worse than that, you're going to be seeing the same people over and over again as it will cluster you into groups.
>>581071210meh that's the HD version leme see the SD one
>>581071528who are you talking to?yo tom remember to bring the milk and cheetos!
>>5810715232h weapon is obviously going to have way more sp than every other slot man. so its not +3 dmg from every slot.
>>581071458For me it's the random fuck worgen talisman that will be BIS for a gilneas boss fight 3 years from now.
>>581071632Sky Elves are HD only
>>581071559>group up and talk to people as you quest/do dungeons>add them to friend list>people from friend list are more likely to share a layer with youNot so hard.
>>581071632bro skyfaggots arent going to have model toggles...
>>581071271>2% movement speed in alliance leveling zones>2 magic pen in the woods>worgen stun>le Reddit boar swordThe “horizontal” progression is very quickly becoming the obvious weak point here. They have no fucking clue what they’re doing with that.
>>581071559they're using advanced AI model to track people you interact with (even clicking on them) to increase chance of putting you both in the same layer
>>581071657>>581071662ah darn well that's a shame hopefully it gets changed later not a deal breaker for me at all.
>>581071210That makes me so fucking mad. It looks so OC DONUT STEAL rip of night elf aesthetics.
>>581071689holy low iq moment
Have they said if Druid forms are gonna scale with weapon AP or are they cursed to farm pummelers forever?
>>581071689um theyll figure it out in 4 years okay chud just let them cook
>>58107168960 is more important that random leveling blues
>>581071559>Explain to me in length exactly howThey did say something about there being a feature that made it so if you've for example grouped up with one person or something you would be more likely to run into that person again out in the world. No I don't know exactly how it works. It was during the segment with the (cute) autistic mexican redhead chick if you want to look it up.
>>581071630I accept your concession, thank you for proving me right.
They're 1000% going to include the faggot incubus again
Are sky elves HD only or is blizzard just still trying to figure out how to downscale and make them look worse still?
I can’t make my fucking mind up between melee hunter and warlock or enhancement and it’s driving me insane
>>581071559many different servers really is a case of "you think you do, but you don't"servers would fucking die all the time in classic because of transfers. on pvp servers once one side started to dominate the other side fled to other servers because the game became unplayable.
>>581070339i've had this happen, only to later see another person with my name that was flagged
>>581070006>>581071431https://youtu.be/H-At5dTE9P4?t=46
>>581071779>I am low IQ therefore I win! you need to be 18+ to post in this website, son
>>581071721what do you mean? blue/purple = night elf? pretty sure night elves don't have a strong association with birds like these things do, night elves are tigers and bears.
>>581071271These aren't that overboard after SoD they really learned to tone it down.Paladins Crusader Strike replcement is only 20% weapon damage instead of 60 for example.
>>581071554Not surprisingly since crit scales way better on melee and is actually viable whilst being a nothing stat for leveling-casters
>>581071595Enhance shaman obviously, just hit that windfury
>>581071657>Sky Elves are HD onlyBased filtering poorfags even more lol
>>581071559>realm identityWhat does this even mean?There's two identities for servers: Populated or dead.
>>581071787HD only and yes, being bright blue and HD makes them stick out like sore thumbs, especially in horde cities where the color pallet is very orange.
>>581071330biggest cope right now is metzen was locked in a heroin dungeon writing 10 years of alternate timeline with the advantage of retrospective 20+ years of FUCKING IT UP in retail for this version
>>581071731>>581071769Here I’ll update it for you brownoids>4% movement speed on blackrock mountain>10 magic pen in un’goro crater>ogre stun>le skull flame shieldNow tell me how it’s good.
>>581069603>new rendering pipeline, global illumination, better looking water than retail, terrain, trees, etc. cast shadows, render distance is insane>can choose between new and old models>launching with more new dungeons than Turtle developed in like 8 years>new raids>new zones>new questsAnd I don't have to actually pay for any of it, because I'm not making a blueberry elf.I don't know why I'm supposed to be mad about this. I almost wonder whether the people endlessly bitching about the $30 elves were even alive when you had to pay $40 for WoW expansions - on top of the subscription fee.
so does setting your mode to 'rp' block who you can see, or just who you can group up with? what I'm asking is whether the differing modes will be given separate phases
>>581071416Is pet scaling for locks new in Forever?
>>581071787theyre just belves arent they? so cant they just use the tbc model but blue
>raid 1 gives bis items against enemies in raid 3 and a tiny chance for a legendary item>raid 2 gives bis items against enemies in raid 4 and a tiny chance for a legendary mount>raid 3 gives bis items against enemies in raid 5 and a tiny chance for a legendary mtxbravo blizzard
>>581071912you answered yourself, dumb shit
>>581071878everyone knows servers had identities Area 52 was a heavy arena focused pvp serverThrall was toxic as fuck
>>581071786Already confirmed.
>>581071904The sky elves were Metzen's idea.At this point I'm convinced he's doing it on purpose to fuck with people.
>>581071836night elves have a huge tie with Owlkin, moonkins and owlbears. They also use birds all the time, Tyrandes main spell in WC3 is literally an owl. owls are HUGE night elf flare.
>>581071271Predict other changes.>Carrot on a Stick>Same Passive>Use: Treat your faithful steed to a bite of the carrot, increasing mounted movement speed by 100%, decaying rapidly over 6 seconds. (10m cooldown)>Hydrocane>Same Passive>Use: Mind Control a targeted water elemental up to level 35 for up to 3 minutes. (30m cd)>Bad Mojo Mask>Same stats>Use: Summon a mummified troll zombie to assist you for 5 minutes, can only be used in desert zones. (1hr cd)
>>581071559>2500 players in a server shard cluster>It consistently attempts to group you with these and as players taper off it quietly replaces their numberscould work
>>581071931That’s what I figured but it seems not
Are we forced into making a last name or can we just do a first name?First name only is more in line with the old naming policy of having one name
>>581069729They're high elves but blue for an amazing reason
>>581071864>Enhance shaman obviously, just hit that windfuryIt's the gigachad spec of choice. That said, you will get kited to death in pvp and you will never do good damage in pve.
Whos ready for WoW: Forever?
>>581072016looks like youll be forced to have a last name
>>581067862Isn't this already in retail?All I remember is it sucked over there so I don't get why everybody is getting their panties in a bunch, it'll be a 1ppm thing or something
Hahaha look at all the retoilets and classisies MALDING at Forever chadactually priceless
>>581072016You can just hide them with a toggle
>>581071915>I don't know why I'm supposed to be mad about thisCool it with the toxic positivity. You're supposed to be chronically angry and looking for things to dislike.
>>581071993>Pendulum of doom now has a chance to summon a doomguard if the proc kills something
>>581072059it doesnt scale in retail
>>581071941Legitimately embarrassing how many of you have been parroting for horizontal progression while apparently having no fucking clue what it actually means. Horizontal progression is not fucking flavor stats on random items. Clapping for this is extremely gay behavior.
>>581070276Orgrimmar at night is going to be DISGUSTINGLY comfy
>>581071947ok, now tell me the identity of ever other of the dozens of servers.you can't, because they had no identity. you can't even name 95% of them, there was always a handful of servers with an exaggerated meme associated with them but that's it.
>>581072016it's forced, it's their way of solving the name duplication issue, even though they already solved it previously by using the account name as the tiebreaker which had to be unique anyway...
I hope they add a surefire way to get legendaries even if it takes a very long time because I probably won't be able to rig a raid group and master loot them onto myself this time around.
>>581072016Just name yourself Name Class
>>581072041no no no please anything but this not the CLOWN SUIT (ROFL) where are the store cosmetics to HIDE this forever?!
>Play PVP server>>Server doesn't randomly become 80% horde overnight when 10 guilds collude to transfer off I am pro megaserver.
>>581071904The biggest cope is thinking Metzen wasn't the weakest link in the entirety of Warcraft and probably Blizzard as a whole (old Blizzard that is).
>>581072059Its worded completely differently. The new troll regen racial also exists in retail and its version is way better, unfortunately.
>>581071689thats not too far from how it works in osrs, except osrs is just better designed game overalllike, people will spend 50 ingame hours to get a teleport that saves 2 ticks when bankingand people will absolutely farm 100 hrs for 1 max hit
>>581072084you can only hide your own last name and you are forced to have a last name in character creationthe toggles literally fix nothing in this game
>>581071993The molten core hunter bow/stick questline is turned into a legendary that swaps between melee and bow
>>581072116You have to be really low IQ to not understand how max level horizontal progression works, the fact that you're asking when AI exists also exposes you as some old retard faggot
>>581070943pve is already a joke in normal classic, if they don't significantly buff mobs when they're buffing items and talents all the content will just be a steamrolli really hope they kill spellcleave or i will quit right then
>>581072145Treading retail waters there nonny. Legendary items are legendary because not everyone can get one, no matter what they do. I’d love to have one too but id rather not have one at all and the prestige be preserved.
>>581072016John Warcraft has arrived.
>>581071559Step 1. Get on Asmon layerStep 2. Get invited to a transmog competition
>>581072041This is how everyone will look for me and I will love it.
>>581072059The retail version seems to work very differently
>>581072225No one will miss you.
>>581072209>citing AIZero brain cells left in that brown skull of yours eh?
>>581072195I've accepted that Classic+ will never be what OSRS is. Horizontal progression works well in OSRS for a reason; or rather, for many reasons. You would have to make so many changes to WoW to make horizontal progression work well within it that it wouldn't even be WoW anymore. I'm talking about things like letting everyone learn every profession, and completely changing how professions work on a fundamental level.
>>581072118>cleft of shadow is literally impossible to traverse without a torch
>>581072041soul
>>581072332the mtx mounts will light the way
I miss ascension, it was so much better than blizzshit
>>581072041every piece tells a story... of leveling up in nagrand
>>581071559nigger who the fuck caresthey could add levelling and dungeons mechanics where you are forced to talk to the people around you and it still wouldnt help and make people interact with eachother.Everyones going to be locked into their pre-existing discords, and maybe some to be created ruleset discord for general info and shityour sense of community and realm identity died completly in 2015 when everyone got a smartphone. Unless the worlds telecom infrastructure goes down, nothing is going to bring back your "community feel" from 2005.
>>581072315I am glad I could give you another "muh enemy" to focus that chronically jaded opinion of yours, stay mad lmao
>>581072118>>581072332I kinda wish they had like a belt lantern like in Elden Ring so you can see the new point lighting from your character without equipping an offhand torch.
>>581071704Would be cool if this was actually true. Imagine some backend LFG tools that layer you with complimentary roles, would be so sick to be a warrior and suddenly have priests looking to group
>>581072382Ascension wasn't even WoW. It felt like retail leveling on crack, and not in a good way.
>>581072395>omg who cares just toggle itbased!
>>581072382Get cease and desisted fag : ^)
>>581072382I miss the fishnets too bro
>>581072225>i really hope they kill spellcleave or i will quit right thenYou can stop crying, they already said that dungeon XP doesn't exist outside of quests.So people will just run it once and be done with it, nobody will want to tank/heal.
>>581072382Epoch*
>>581072421It analyses your speech too and puts certain languages together and also binds toxic players together.
>>581071704time to /wave at everyone that goes by
>>581072397>chronically jadedI’m unapologetically excited for Forever. But the systems they’ve shown us for their idea of “horizontal gaming” so far have been pathetic. I can like the other 99% and criticize this. Put that into a prompt and eat shit faglord.
>>581072382Don't make me post the Ascension cash shop
KEK at all the cry babies, get a job dumb shits
>>581072437It felt like a completely different game. I tried bronzebeard because it was advertised as classic+ and it was the most unholy combination of the worst aspects of retail and other gaming trends I have ever experienced. It literally had a gatcha mechanic where you gamble abstract premium points for a chance to randomly unlock some backported retail spell.
>>581072395thank god RP server wont have this shiteverything will be like back in 2004
>>581071640>2h weaponDon't worry bro I got you. This one doesn't even need the quest or finishing the dungeon.
>>581070803He lives btw.
>>581072468ill heal
>>581072410That's probably gonna be a thing no, otherwise how would people with 2 handers deal with it
>>581072568Mages get a spell, 1h buff, causes a ball of light to float above your head.
>>581072528just dont use the item if you want the game to more challenging? just fucking toggle and stop crying...
>>581072528well troontle isn't around anymore so it doesn't really matter what was on there does it lol
>>581072507>I am excited for forever >Let me spam bitter posts all day because I am retarded and illiterate okay anon, whatever you say
>>581072615toggle kings cant stop winning
>>581072382what do you miss about it i never played private servers
>Turtletroons are STILL melting down 3 days laterKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
QRD on Epoch?I was excited for it two years ago but didn't pay attention to what actually happened in the end.
>>581072528we dont know what they mob scaling will be like, for better or worse
>>581072382Blizz is being a cockteaseThey could have packed release but instead they want to trickle content in to milk subscription fees and hype every few months>OMFG PLAYABLE HIGH ELVESThree months later when hype is dying and they need players back>OMFG PLAYABLE NAGA AND MURLOCSThree more months later>OMFG PLAYABLE KOBOLDS AND ETHREALS It’s going to be dragged out Forever©
>>581072642This may come as a shock to you but there’s other people in the thread with similar opinions talking about it. Not everyone is willing to basedjak over flavor text.
>>581072662>what do you miss about it i never played private serversI miss the trans community. We found a good home there.
>>581072696mobs were scaled up in SoD and hit much harder
>>581072382I miss it too but unfortunately you can't talk about it without a million shills bombarding you for daring to play a literal fuckaround funserver.
>>581072528Low level spells have dogshit spellpower scaling, there's a reason all the twink at 19 and 29 are physical based.
>>581072708wow has always had a huge group of "dont like it just quit :)" faggotsthats why retail is the way it is
>>581072708lol
>>581072182>troll regen is a channelI was expecting instant cast that breaks on taking damage but that's bullshit>>581072304I should learn how to readStill 5% chance to give an attack lifesteal (even if it's 100% of damage dealt) doesn't sound that big of a deal. Taurens are going to be better tanks (+5% total health and 1% hit), orcs are better for dps and trolls have a better emergency heal if bosses have downtime.
>>581072662The epic cash shop
>>581072692it was okay on launch and had good ideas but lacked contentit released kind of unfinished and development was insanely slow and that's how it died
>>581072692It flopped because the owners couldn't get a functional server running so they awkwardly handed it off to Ascensions team.It accomplished one thing though. It proved how much people REALLY wanted Classic+ with the insane amount of hype a nonfunctional pserver got.
>>581072523RP servers in 2019 classic famously had no server discord and guild discords where everyone was being redirected to and only a handful of friendless pathetic losers trying to talk in zone chat. Likewise for retail RP servers where everytime theres RP happening its the same 20-30 trannies trying to ERP with eachother youre right anon. its going to be just like 2004.
Yeah, I'm thinking GLADIATOR mode for pvp.
>>581072808>it released kind of unfinishedtranslation: it was buggy as fuck and crashed every two seconds for weeks.
>>581072175Its going to be 80% alliance from the get-go because gnome racials are absolutely broken
>>581072708Can you explain what are the points of your posts other than being off-topic spam because you lack a frontal lobe?
>>581072875get owned by mages warlocks and shadow priests sissy
>>581072698>the company is doing things to make moneySome of you faggots got way too comfortable playing a backported game from 2004 that sat as a collection bin for sub fees. This isn’t a retail issue. This isn’t even a blizzard or Microsoft issue. It’s an industry issue. Go find literally one game on the market right now where 100% of the players are happy with the monetization and direction the game is taking. You won’t. You are playing a new game that is actively being developed by a team that makes a salary and has a duty to their boss to generate profit. If you can’t accept that era is right there. It will never be tarnished or changed or updated and you can be happy with it til you die. Enjoy.
>>581072692>spent years in development>developers were entirely unprepared for how popular it was very obviously going to be on release>server architecture could only handle like <2k players, I can't even remember how many members the Discord had>launch day approaches>it's a fucking dumpster fire>constant crashes>occasional rollbacks>hilarious bugs like the Dwarf / Gnome starting zone burrow being inaccessible because the stairs were raised by a meter by accident>launch was so bad that they basically said fuck it, we're re-launching it after we switch to an entirely different private server architecture>this took weeks, and in the end the server had to be handed over to Ascension because they actually knew what they were doing>at some point, the remaining developers got spooked off the project because of a C&D or something>basically languished until its inevitable deathI honestly don't think it was that bad. Deadmines and Wailing Caverns were amazing. I didn't get to experience the other new dungeons before it shit the bed.
>>581072692Extremely fucked launch. Incredible Classic+ server that fixed pretty much fixed everything. Died because all the devs bounced.
>>581072875anticipation is probably better than shit like imp tclap, defense reduces your chance to be crit like resil on top of giving you dodge/parry/miss.
>>581072939I trust the forever devs to add a pvp shield that has on use spell reflect.They will not let me down.
>>581072937>talking directly about the game is off topic Yeah, my money is on stinkjeet
>>581072798OMG THE SOVL!!!! BLIZZARD COULD NEVER REPLICATE SUCH SOOOOOVL!
>>581072974>>hilarious bugs like the Dwarf / Gnome starting zone burrow being inaccessible because the stairs were raised by a meter by accidentLmao, that is good.
>>581072382careers.mcdonalds.com
>>5810727084chan has been inundated with redditors since 2016, there's always plenty of toxic positity reddit retards trying to shut down discussion because they are programmed to think in what gets them upvotes, and they are confused when they can't downvote so instead they lash out.
Thoughts on my hunter build?
>>581072382
how long until we see new versions of camp tents on the cash shop?
>>5810731612/10 didn't take the BM talent that lets you throw birds at people.
>>581073161
>>581073205dataminers will uncover a lot of shit in the beta, i suspect then
>>581073161that's an amazing build anon >>581073205hopefully day 1 ! because my camps are going to be just goon camps for people to blow off some stress over my skelf
>>581073161Melee hunter is lame, survival was a cool pvp spec in vanilla that gave you options in melee but not the entire point of the tree.
This is going to be so much fun! I can't wait to make new friends and explore! Yaaaaay yay yay
>>581072875>>581072991This is how I would do it. SS is worth taking, it does serious damage with BV gear and the dispel is valuable.
should i play warcraft 3 or diablo 2 while i wait for beta
>>581073294>survival was a cool pvp spec in vanilla! lying piece of shit, it was never used other than some talents
>>581072798blizzshit is the same except you pay 180$ in subscriptions per year on top
>>581073307What class and race would Alice play?
>>581069629>druids, mages and shamansshots have travel time
>>581073307a 34 year old man with AGP typed this
>>581073359Apparently the story for forsaken kingdom is actually well written and voiced.Idk if its worth the price tho
>>581073418Human male warrior
>>581073418I don't know who that is but girls only play priest and hunters. MAYBE you might see a paladin but she's healing only.
>>581073453wow...he's just like me...
Biggest blunder of this whole release isn’t anything you retards are whining about. It’s having a beta. These fucks at blizzard have the audacity to talk about discovering a new world and new adventure and having all this unknown just to hand the entire project over to dataminers and content creators for 2 months who will extract every possible piece of information and have the first 30 levels completely mapped out within a week. There was an opportunity to dump us all into this world dazed and confused the same way they did in 2004 and they just completely sidestepped it for earnings. Undoubtedly the biggest L.
Survival is the new rogue of vanilla and I can't wait to exploit dumb people in pvp with it
>>581073418Human male paladin
>>581073307I like when grown men roleplay as happy anime women it makes me want to be cute too. But in a straight way
>>581069708Stoneform is pretty good in pvp and alright for tanks.I would rather have taurens endurance and stun for extra interrupts
>>58107345336...
i just realised most of you retards have never played classic wow
>>581073501It's a small price to pay for gnome racials being nerfed into the dirt and every item having its spellpower bonus halved
>>581073501>There was an opportunity to dump us all into this world dazed and confused the same way they did in 2004Vanilla had a beta though? People literally still remember shit from the OG wow beta to this day like Indalamar wrecking shit with slam.
>>58107345326 actually...
>>581073372Shut up retard,0/21/30 was cookie cutter ranking build.
>>581073512They have camo or something?
How does gnomes eureka work for rogues/warriors?Saving energy/rage on 3 attacks sounds amazing even if doesn't end up berserking/bloodfury OP
>>581073501what a retarded post, vanilla had a beta too doom-kuns don't bring their best
>>581073571Nah it's retail that people seem to compare things too while blatantly not have played it in the past 10+ years.
>>581071657can we toggle the other races individually?
>>581073501theyre too retarded to deliver a finished product without their precious feedback they can ignoreif they had design principles there wouldnt be a beta or datamining
If Forever doesn't come with at least 25 new Fist weapons, I'm out.
>>581073630>>581073587Yeah let’s pretend that a beta for an unreleased game that wasn’t known by anyone at all in 2004 before YouTube or any form of guide content was a thing is the same as what’s about to happen now in 2026 with endless data mining, content farming, and minmaxing
>>581073571I tried playing it back in 2005 but my pc was so shit that I had 3 fps once I went out into Elwynn Forest.. I only played it again once TBC came out and I had a better pc.
diablo v paypigs will finance blizzard and save us from mtx slop
>>581073571I played on release and the game was already shit, only fun part was playing with my friends
>>581073630vanilla beta was almost three decades ago, retard-kun.
>>581073529My wife likes to roleplay as a succubus during sexI’ve convinced her she’s a demonic whore who is possessed by a female demon named Lust who bows down at the temple of Cock to whom she praysRepressed religious women are nuts and it’s hot and a good thing
Is 5% hit worth 10 talent points?
It's to stress test the mega server project dumb retards lmao what a bunch of clueless pserv cucks you are mad because you can't pay or get into the beta admit it
>>581073695Damn you yeeted those goalposts into a different dimension huh?
>>581073501this is the reason im actually not going to pay/ play the beta, i wanna go in with a fresh set of eyes
>>581073695these people can stop being disingenuous for even a second lol
>>581073629It's apparently -50% resource on next 3 attacks but we've only seen screenshots of people playing mana classes. Just another one of those things we have to awkwardly wait for beta to 100% confirm.
>>581073736>le goalpost movingRolling my eyes nonny
>i have to wait until november 6th or 7th to find out if retail graphics on has the new retaily version of shadowform or if you can have the classic super dark and shadowy form on retail models.
>>581073735based
>Stealth shadow priest that gets invited for PI only to use it on himselfMwahaha...
>>581073734Completely depends on how they redid gearing. If hit rating is easy to come by then all these hit % talents suddenly become bad for endgame
>>581073734probably not when hit gear is easier to get and spell hit isn't a specific stat anymore
>>581073703at this point i dont even care anymorewe're all going to buy gold anyway
>>581073849>not taking the extremely overpowered shadow formYeah you should probably neck yourself
>>581073816Not only did vanilla have a beta, there were wow private servers of the wow beta before the game even released officially. Not only was there massive anticipation and discussion for vanilla wow, there was tons of videos that remain well known to this day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibh4SO5W4OUSorry you weren't there for it lil zoom, it was great.
>>581073695Every single expansion had a test realm, dumbfuck piece of shit doomnonny faggot nigger
>>581073849bro your mana sustain?
>Tfw you own nothing but you're happy
NEW THREAD>>581073917>>581073917>>581073917NEW THREAD
>>581073849the shadow talents give more dmg with 100% uptime
>>581073826it will be on the beta you dont have to wait that long
>>581073849>shadow priest>no shadow formuhm..
>>581073897d'aaaw
>>581069895>anti stun>anti stealthHuman warrior is the new dedicated priest bodyguard against rogues
>>581070010It's even worse of a trap in pve>AoE stun? that looks sick for my tauren tank>synchronizes every mob auto attack>start losing HP in chunks
>>581070152Any caster and maybe hunterShadow priest, warlock and mages are the good old reliables
>>581070258>remove most raid buffs from talents (imp scorch, shadow weave, etc..)>keep group buffs like leader of the pactI don't get what they're going for
>>581066952No you can'tThat's for retail, retard.
>>581070625Giving up riptide sucksMental quickness sucks dick, 30% int conversion is peanuts, ret paladins get 100%. You're probably better off putting those points in purificationRestoration is loaded with good talents and the good shit from enhance is all tier1You could do a hybrid build for healing and questing but it's a hard sell
>>581070258>The change i most surprised by is they removed buffs from talent treesAccording to the rumor mill the only class that's actually somewhat close to being finished is paladin, which is why they were sucking it off so much during the presentations. As for all the other classes you should basically expect that what was shown at Blizzcon has little to do with what will be released.
>>581067701No it doesn't you fucking retard. Imagine being such a low iq imbecile you can't even process a single sentence. She says the 16 point cap was only for the launch
>>581070715Maelstrom weapon is terrible for 2handers, same with the new self only bloodlustI'm all for them moving more power to the final 2 tiers and making stormstrike give mana based on your AP or somethingMaking stormstrike debuff charge based like vanilla is also an option, that way elemental can choose to go melee to buff 2 lightning bolts and still use lava burst.Also, why the fuck is cast reduction for lightning bolt so far down the elemental tree?Elemental might aswel not exist until level 37
>>581065098Don't confuse vicious mockery for interest.
>>581069085The fact I could hear this green text makes me profoundly sad.
>>5810694691+ year of stalking Turtle WoW and Ascension to copy their homework. Nobody wants to hear it but private servers have been free RnD for quite a while now. Just take one look at OctoWoW talents (Turtle succesor) and WoWForever and you will notice similarities right away. None of it will matter though because the game will drown in RMT, Bots, GDKP and Boosting in 2 weeks.
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