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OVER status?
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>>581394924
the dawnwell shit was gay af
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>>581395050
yep wow forever is already over RIP
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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>>581394924
She's a toes length away from total victory...
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>>581394041

>mmmmm nyo
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Reminder that the retoilet ends after TLT.
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All the major content creators are playing Forever. What can we do to stop this?
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>>581394917
I refuse to believe they're closing retail and moving over to forever, and rogue tank never got to be a thing outside SOD. that's gay af
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>>581395191
Still can't believe Ion snuck that line past the censors.
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>>581395316
We can stop it, sister, soon the Foreverchads will be breaking down our doors and forcing us to detransition. My boy clitty is twitching just thinking about it.
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>>581395457
>censors
What year is it, 2005? Everything is sexualized nowadays. The line probably wasn't even his idea, just playing to LE MEMS
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>>581395316
/ourguy/ Max says it's fine, he- I mean we still have mythic raids and plus to enjoy.
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I'll never understand why people ruin their fresh experience by playing betas
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>>581394638
Vulpera are based off of kemono foxes so no. I'd say more but if i do we'd be entering extremely off-topic territory.
Anyways, i really empathize with you and i'm so sorry they did that to you as an infant, you didn't have a choice and all those criminals encouraging that barbaric practice should be put behind bars for life.
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hilarious how this OP triggered the foreverlets
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>>581395681
they aren't based on kemono at all fuck off
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>>581395768
They are, they have Japanese names too. See this? what if i told you this is not a vulpera
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lIkHlbB8XU

IT'S JOEVER
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>>581395910
i'd believe you because it looks nothing like a vulpera
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>>581395932
based griftmaxxer
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>>581395681
no they aren't. they arent even based of red foxes. they're based of fennec foxes. in fact if you KNEW the lore, you'd know that Vol'Dun used to be a jungle before sethraliss clapped a sleeping old god and hid the sleeping body beneath it. which is why today it's a desert.
They're fox people. dont worry i get mad when people give tauren horse cocks when it should be bull cocks too. im consistent.
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>>581395680
People like seasonal stuff. They'll max themselves out at 30 and then get their characters reset. Classic andies are used to playing through the same content over and over again.
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>>581395753
>getting raped in the ass
>it's hilarious how my breedable and submissive ass triggered you to rape me
lol
lmao
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https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301512/world-of-warcraft-forever-gpu-requirements

Poorfags status?
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>>581396068
>dont worry i get mad when people give tauren horse cocks when it should be bull cocks too. im consistent.
It's a healthy compromise for the sake of the game, like when they allowed foid nelf to be druids
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Why is she so small?
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>>581395569
You don't know how bad things are in the US right now.
The neopuritan larp is going hard thanks to saint neckhole
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WOW I LOVE WOW:FOREVER SO MUCH i JUST CAN'T STOP DOING THESE AMAZING NOT-AI-GENERATED QUESTS LIKE "KILL 6 SPIDERS" "NOW KILL 4 BEES" "NOW KILL 9 UNDEAD PEASANTS" "NOW KILL 11 BOARS"
THIS IS WHAT REAL GAMING IS SUPPOSED TO BE
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>>581396316
There's no way thirdies can't afford that sort of hardware. They can probably find it in garbage dumps because 1sties fucking sent it there.
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https://files.catbox.moe/dftdp4.png
It's okay to like different things
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>>581396428
Easier to man handle and makes the knots look bigger.
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>>581396428
do you think the other dracthyr bully her for being a midge?
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>>581396646
Now that is a good 'pera.
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>Blizz got classickeks to pay $80 for a reskinned retail game
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Wow:Forever just took. BIG and STINKY shit in the retoilet and basically now it's clogged. haha.
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>>581396820
they get to do essentially 1-30 97% vanilla with 2 "new" dungeons that are essentially just RFC reskins

holy shit they buyers remorse will hit them hard tomorrow
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>>581396068
Obviously...? except kemono in this instance means the design language of their bodies not literally meaning culturally Japanese or something. Their NPCs having a lot of Japanese names is just proof they were thinking of certain art when designing those fennecs.
Canonically furry races genitalia have no lore. It's up for interpretation i guess but i really do not and never will vibe with animal genitalia. I can never project for what is basically less. Do research into what circumcision actually rips from your penis at your own peril, it might depress you.
It's not just 'aesthetic', the forskin isn't there for the looks, it's a lot of nerve/pleasure receptors & foreplay potential ect.
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>>581396502
IS THAT *GASP* +5 DEFENSE AND +8 STRENGTH UNCOMMON BOOTS
WITH THIS I DO 11 DAMAGE INSTEAD OF 10
HOLY SHIT THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
IM LITERALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW
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>only people left in wowg are furries and trannies and tranny furies
you better stay in here
do not play forever
you are NOT welcome
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everything dies so fast...
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>>581395932
i thought wow would be on phones first
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so this is OSRS vs RS3 all over again
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>>581397163
classic shitters dont want to level or care about the journey they just want to speedrun to 60 so they can start raidlogging
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>>581397087
I will be playing it though :333
sorry!
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>>581396646
now that's a vulpera male
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>>581396218
The gay centaur quest was 4 years and 2 expacs ago lil bro
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what race do the wowg furries play in forever
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You're 14 and it's summer vacation.
You're playing WoW at night with the windows open and the sound of crickets can heard.
Your mom just ordered a pizza.
Thunder gently rumbles in the distance.

You're home.
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>>581397641
Tauren most likely.
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>>581397225
Guild Wars beat them to it. You can play the actual real game using your actual account and characters on your phone right now
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>>581397641
Femtaur
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>>581397698
sadly i was 15 when wow came out
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Lol the Forever beta just completely crashes your computer if you're on Mac
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Our nigga Towelliee (literally mister Worlo) doesn't seem to enjoy the experience. I mean it's Classic WoW with 100% bloom effect, and boring gameplay and activities and stories.
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this is a /b/ thread
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>>581397698
god just express mail me an exit bag already
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>>581397698
>You're 14 and it's summer vacation.
I was in my last year of college when I started WoW. Thank goodness, because I never would have been able to graduate (would I even have started college in the first place, lol?) if I’d played WoW before then.
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>>581395932
He gets excited over retail lore and makes videos about it, he is just grifting
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>>581397981
Post sharpie in butthole
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>>581397698
I spent my early teens getting my back blown out by my bully
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Im itching to give them money for new warcraft 3 campagin ... anyone played it?
ye ye I know, we hate blizzard and all that shite. but warcraft 3 is the best game ever made, so supporting feels like it makes sense
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>>581396820
retail players paid $90 for a reskinned AH mount.
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>>581395932
He's really that desperate for views.
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>ok can u niggers literally exit the game?

I just got done with a 12 hour shift for Shekelberg Inc. and I just wanna chill and enjoy Elwynn kino
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Talk about Azeroth Yaoi. I want to hear YOUR gay stories that melt hearts, that is the real Forever. Furry or not...
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>>581397964
good I hope all the grifters and their retard orbiter fanbases get bored and fuck off as fast as possible so they don't have any effect of Forevers development and actual wow enjoyers can shape it.
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>>581398114
Please do not be considering self harm. There are so many people wishing you well.
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>>581398319
I played multiplayer with reforged graphics, they look pretty good but they're not perfect yet, I'd only buy the campaign when it gets a discount, it's too expensive at 30 bucks, if you enjoy that type of campaign there are dozens of amazing custom made campaigns to play on the hive and honestly they are all really fun
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>>581398384
I paid just over 1 million gold for it actually.
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I'm ready to hunt down some noshoes
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ACK
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shoo
get the fuck out of here you pests
>>>/vg/wowfg/
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>>581396316
it's over
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>>581398717
why are you blue
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>>581398470
>even THINKING about playing shit like this on launch day much less BETA launch day.

Legit its not real for a bit until the zerg rush dies down and the servers stop shitting themselves. Even if you get in you wont be able to do anything because of the absolute flood of people.

I pity the tards who paid for beta thinking theyd get some sort of "early access" out of it. Its beta, shits gonna be a mess AND everything you accomplish will be wiped at the end of beta. So basically all you're doing is spoiling whatever first pass enjoyment you might have of the actual game.
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>>581398614
hmmm. Curse you, voice of reason. CURSE YOU
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>>581398717
God that looks so fucking bad lmao
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forever is dogshit bros. we won. we fucking won. everyone is back to run m+ again
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>>581398717
have fun getting molested by bloodcrows or others like them lmao.

the pvp servers in this are gonna be ULTRA toxic and completely dominated by horde gank stacks.
Youre not gonna hunt no shoes you're gonna get camped by like 9 undead rogues at the same time.
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Retail won.
Forever lost.
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Thoughts?
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>>581399602
confirmed different
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>>581399602
he's right
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>>581399602
we're supposed to change
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>>581399948
Ok this might be kino
Is Gay Retard taken yet?
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>>581399602
i'm a different man now
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>>581399602
I always hate that arthas model it was so smooth and fat lmao but I understand they couldnt use the pure shit player human model
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>>581399602
This WotLK moment was very cringe but you were normal back then, your brain wasn't /pol/luted.
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this is what you get when you have to pay real money for a hero kek
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>all of GLOBOFOMO is playing
>all of NERVB is playing
Retail classic, retailers fucking won
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Retail Won
Forever Won

Classic lost, Bigly
Doomjeets on suicide watch
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I don't feel so good retail sisters...
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I don't care if Forever wins, I just need Classhit to lose.
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>>581401329
My friend was seething because he always wanted the za mount (wasn't able to play during the original tbc classic) and now they dropped this shit on him.
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>>581400710
why does this general have so many gacha niggers?
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>>581401267
we know you dont doombrown, but we do, so it is ok.

please crawl away and die quietly, were kinda busy here.
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I played Forever for an hour. First impressions: It's just retail with some new toys. If you didn't like, or got bored of classic- WoW Forever is not for you.
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>>581400220
I'm an ackthyr main and I hate the way they look. It's an easy raid spot because nobody else wants to touch this shit. Wish I could be beefy like pic related.
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>>581401758
>I played a game that takes ~400 hours to cap out at 60 for an hour to level 7
>I have a sweeping opinion of it now.

you're a moron lmao.
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>>581401970
>~400 hours to cap out at 60
>you're a moron
ironic lmao
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>>581401909
Ragnaros legs
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>>581401909
>I'm an ackthyr main and- ACK! ECK! HURK!
Can just safely ignore everything after a retard says something stupid like this
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>>581400775
they made her lore accurate
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>>581402362
not counting that bullshit the only problem is the aa/trait build but it make sense because all new heroes are op, she will be fine when they nerf that
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>>581398717
Hordemutts will learn to fear us.

Sky wives will be known as the ICE of Forever.
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People are already dropping the beta and coming back bros retail f*cking won. we won.
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>>581402882
SEXXXXX
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wtf is wrong with this faggot
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>>581403329
Metzen ruining Forever and Retail
based
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>>581403329
Chris Metzen
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Imagine FOMOing into a fucking paid beta. Actual goypig cattle. Probably Klarna'd that shit too. You can wait a day and see if it's worth your time you absolute inbreds.
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>>581403329
He hates how they butchered his baby so he's secretly sabotaging everything now.
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>>581403329
>think bigger than the most requested race of all time
We can't do High Elves and Ogres that's boring, drop the Ogres and paint the Elves blue and put them on both sides.
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>>581403329
metzen was unironically right

just having elves start in northshire abbey would have been a terrible lazy implementation
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>>581403824
So have them start in Theramore then? Not that difficult to come up with, Theramore was the biggest concentration of High Elves left after Arthas.
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>>581403743
>they
pretending he is not the problem

>>581403767
not doing ogres make perfect sense because they don't exist as a playable race but helves are right there lol

>>581403824
not really the alliance was filled with helf refugees during vanilla
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>>581403329
>
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I hate people.
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>kino
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>>581403329
>Hey team, let's make a new WoW but totally identical to old WoW


Bro, he's right, we need to think bigger, it's Worlo here, not your random safe rpg
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>>581404373
nothing say bigger like a shitty recolor elf
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>>581404347
>the stormwind harbor in forever
wait plz tell me the original park is intact.
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>>581404347
Well yeah they built forever on the retail engine so you can use the current max distance.
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>>581403329
I'm watching the Q&A now and the fat guy basically said they could still do them eventually, but at this point why even bother?
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>>581404465
desu it's not just a blue recolor. It has a new lore, new racials, new design (theme) and new stories to tell.

Did you say "sweet a black recolor dwarf, daring today, aren't we?" when you met a Dark Iron dwarf?
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thinking about this today
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So now that the dust has settled, we're all in agreement that Forever is just Retail rebooted?

I can't imagine retail has had more than 500k concurrent subs since SL so this must be their way of relaunching it.
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>>581403329
They don't have Kotick or Danuser anymore so Metzen is the new fall guy to invoke every time they make a contentious decision.
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>>581404796
I'm sure qt its going to be the first xpac and they are going to copy paste the retail version and remove the lightbloom shit and wala you have a new zone
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>>581405113
>Did you say "sweet a black recolor dwarf, daring today, aren't we?" when you met a Dark Iron dwarf?
actually I did, maghar, dark iron, highmountain, every dwarf allied race really they shouldn't exist or just be customization options for the base races.
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>>581404347
That's something that you could easily do on Turtle or Epoch. With way less fog and seeing farther too.
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Does Forever explain why nelves joined the Alliance? Does it explain how fem nelves had a weakness against the Orcs BIG GREEN COCKS and thus needed the alliance to protect them?
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>>581405364
>Midnight Quel'thelas but without the WoD garbage all over it
I mean that's already a huge improvement
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Forever is hitting 1 hour long threads

Midnight at it's fastest has been 8 hour long threads

>it's over
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>>581395680
it's the real launch of the game where everything is new and people are discovering, wheras the official launch is now full of sweats racing to endgame with their gathered information from beta, more reasons why mmos are gay now
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>>581405596
>That's something that you could easily do on Turtle or Epoch
You can do it right now because the game is built on the retail engine and I'm not even using the best possible graphics.
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>>581405850
>forever's westfall doesn't have all the cata shit on it

mogged again
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>>581405760
Because we are playing Midnight
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>half my raid team didn't even sign up tonight
Its over...
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>>581406484
Fishing up this worgen's corpse for... reasons.
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>>581406484
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>>581398384
I use it all the time tho
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almost posted my nudes to the guild discord again award
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*flushes you down the p*ootoilet*
THE LIGHT... THE LIGHT... WILL...ACK! AAAAAAAAAAACK!!!
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>>581407054
Post them to catbox.
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>>581407054
almost saw this homo’s prolapse award
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>>581407054
Femthyr stop being such a slut.
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The biggest issue by far is that I can't have characters on both factions in PvP realms. I don't want to play PvE it's boring as sin, but now I have no choice but to do this with half my characters.
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>>581407054
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>>581403329
what's the source for this the interview? because if it is this is hilariously misinterpreted, the Sky Elves were completely the idea Aggrend
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>>581407225
someone might recognize my birthmark years down the line no
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>some people in my mop guild are mad that GDKPs won't be allowed
Lol oh noooo no gold inflation to fuck the economy, aw shucks no rampant gold buying/selling, aw fuck that sucks ughhhhhhh.
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>>581407936
Classic economy was quite nice until mop when people took the hint and the tokens went from 20k to 80k in a month.
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>>581394924
Nerub no longer raids and is a discord-exclusive guild consisting of people that don't use this website after they overhauled their full member base due to internal drama.

Remove them from the OP so someone is motivated to make a fresh one please mr baker thanks.
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>>581407936
Im content that gold buyers and sellers are getting niggere'd up the butt
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>>581404297
Americans are such schizos, it's bizarre
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>>581405271
I looked at all the new weapons in the datamined the other day and the Hyjal weapons in particular look exactly like Harandar weapons or Night Fae stuff. I'm honestly shocked there's been no pushback from the classicfags. That or they just haven't noticed they're playing retail yet.
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>>581407794
Blur it.
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>>581408316
honestly I see it more as "hey look a wra player being a stick up ass sperglord"
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The only thing that brings me joy in this life is receiving small upgrades from Maze+
Soon it will be receiving small upgrades from end game dungeons with a stupid last name that you can't opt out of
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>>581408950
>panda player
>autistic schizoid
name a more iconic duo
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I can't wait to report people with joke last names on MY RP ruleset.
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>they nerfed kithax loot to 6/6
Maybe there is hope for s3
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Midnight Q&A is retarded, who is asking these questions??

>we planned out the story
>except the part where we cut and paste random zones into different expansions
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It's Classic WoW but a little prettier.
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>>581409416
mfw Forever get's bunny elves
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>>581409359
WE DON'T NEED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
FUCK OUR PLAYERS
TAKE YOUR FUCKING ARATOR AND JIMOTHY AND GO FUCK YOURSELVES
YOU WON'T DO SHIT
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>>581409521
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>>581409284
in what way
it was the only way for mazies to ketchup a little bit and they killed it
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>>581409359
Character Customisation, people very clearly want more barbershop additions.

Blizzard

>We added housing
>You can choose what mounts you use
>Transmog changes are coming
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>>581409658
Because the 9/6 shit is retarded and this is a step on the right direction but not enough to fix the loot.
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>>581409359
>>581409751
Wasn't a box feature of Midnight that they simplified the classes and removed button bloat almost to an extreme?

Hunter and Shaman seem especially retard-proof atm
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>>581409359
>>581409751
>>581409972

lmao
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>>581410174
No races is probably the best outcome
>skyborne are already retail tagged in the files
Oh no
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>>581410464
>skyborne are already retail tagged in the files

it makes no sense not to give it to us, I want a druid belf
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>>581410582
I know but that's where we are and I have vulpera flashbacks
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25k to craft a 331, holy fucking shit, the crafterjews are out of their minds
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>male leader
uhhhh but you retoilets told me Forever will be just as pozzed as retail!??!??
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>>581411853
Are you playing on a super low pop server?
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>>581411995
Nope, Silvermoon EU, though it is late at night. I don't care really but the price seems insane.
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I hate to admit this, but I'm actually having fun in Forever. Forgive me, /wowg/. There's actually something peaceful slowly leveling.
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>first and last names in retail never
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>>581412083
Wait for someone else lol
Crafts are 5k tops
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>>581412274
too late, already paid. Was just thinking it's too much ;p
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>>581411931
that dialogue gave me eye aids. and you're telling me retail has had to put up with eyesores like that for years god damn. why the nigga gotta monologue his life story verbatim like he's summarising key points from a wiki article on himself.
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>>581412682
It's over for you...
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>>581412274
>>581412682
for reference I paid 13k per craft 2 weeks ago or so. But I asked ~6 crafters in trade, they all said 25k+
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>>581409972
lol you're still buying that "button-bloat" shill talking point? they want legions of normies and they got their legions of normies with Forever, so give me my fucking abilities back
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>>581412804
>13k per craft 2 weeks ago or so.
The fuck is wrong with yuros? I guess I love chinamen and spics now.
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>>581411931
>female in charge of military
oh no no nononono...
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anyone got an extra code
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>>581398493
plappable fatass built for zandalari retricock
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>wowg furry clique finally get what they want, wowg all to themselves as everyone moves to wowfg
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Apologize to the best written, realistic girlboss of the best (by proxy) expansion in wow's history. And why tf is she still missing in Midnight?
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>he doesn't know the furry clique is posting in wowfg
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>>581413429
the balls on Blizzard to introduce an arathi orc into the story
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>>581413469
why, theres no furry races in forever

no tauren don't count
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>an't have Alliance and Horde characters with access to PvP realms, you have to choose one faction
Yeah nah this is fucked
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>>581413761
good, it should always be that way
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>>581413871
Not him but why? Blizzard think people will create adds to spy or something?
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I will be playing a Tauren in Forever.
Or just a bear druid if my friends want to go alliance...
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>>581414154
spying, which happens frequently, griefing and revenge ganking

I also think it helps provide a little more loyalty and support for whatever faction you chose.
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>>581413871
Why? I am only getting half the value of my account since half my characters can't access the game.

>>581414154
That would only apply if they were on the same realm.
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No holly, I shan't engage with your slop.
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>>581414225
Large furry creatures...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiGKVEesb7I

IIIIIIIOOOOON THEY'RE NOT RAIDING OR DELVING BAN THEM NOOOW
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The Forsaken Kingdom undead paladin cutscene is so kino it's making me want to roll one

and I fucking hate forsaken
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I DIED IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY
I DIED IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY
I DIED IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY

I NEVER GOT TO 60 IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY

I NEVER GOT TO 60 IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY

I NEVER GOT TO 60 IN CLASSIC BECAUSE THE GAME IS TOO EASY

RETAIL TAKES SKILL
RETAIL TAKES SKILL
RETAIL TAKES SKILL


RETAIL IS A HIGH IQ GAME
RETAIL IS A HIGH IQ GAME
RETAIL IS A HIGH IQ GAME
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>>581409359
>Faction specific narrative
>The short answer is yes.
The long answer is
>Yes, we're planning to give Alliance exclusive questlines in the future while Horde gets nothing.
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>>581413317
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>>581414607
Headless horseman mog with the yellow corrupted ashbringer kino
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>>581414556
/bounce
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>>581414607
I can't believe Blizz made this in 2026, the writing feels so much better than anything in Retail for the last decade.
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>>581414903
Classic Forever dosen't have any troon devs and since its a new game it's not bound by union contract to add troon gay shit to the game.
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>>581414903
>Blizzard finally focuses on a Horde race again
>Writing is 10 times better than the Alliance slop we've had since Legion.
It's that simple really. If you want to tell good stories, you simply write the good faction
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>>581414993
that's not classic forever, retard
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>>581415018
I don't think the Retail writers know how to write Horde characters. I mean they don't know how to write at all but they've got no idea about Horde.
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>>581415123
troon
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>>581415018
sweetie, BFA was also focused on the horde. And we all know how that worked out.
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>>581414607
Remember: Forsaken don't look that cool in-game.
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>>581415254
At least we got to burn the tree
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>>581415207
It's from warcraft reforged you fucking moron
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>>581415254
You mean the expansion that the narrative was fine until the devs caved and spent the complete rest of it jerking off the Alliance cause the players lost their shit over Teldrassil?
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I like how you just ignore pvp now until they flip the MMR switch
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Does someone have the WoW lelf gif? I need it for an argument.
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>>581414903
It's a RTS where they can focus on actual characters, set at a point in time where shit was actually going down, and they're not bogged down by some grand cosmic bullshit or elf retardation.
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>>581415394
Remember the purge squads? The game will never recover from the alliance victim complex.
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>>581412170
Server names have been the de facto last name for a couple years and I honestly like it, e.g., "of Moon Guard, of Stormrage of Sargeras," etc.
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>>581415321
>>581415394
>The narrative was fine
>Everyone hated SylvANUS except for the few undead purists
>Notmywarchief
You people forget too fast
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>>581415508
>not bogged down by some grand cosmic bullshit or elf retardation.
You forgot the biggest ball and chain, the fucking factions
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>>581415530
>alliance victim complex
Lmao yeah, the horde got to completely burn down two major alliance cities, one being a capital, without an ingame fight, nothing, just the writers sayings so.
>Muh alliance victim complex
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>>581415530
And that's why Forsaken Kingdom was kino. The RTS writers didn't have to take Alliance fans feelings into consideration as they were making a purely Horde experience.
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>>581415508
there was nothing in the DLC that couldn't have been done in WoW. FFS I was collecting bear asses for Putress for half the game.

Shit is going down right now in game, we just don't really feel it because everyone just wants to talk about their feelings and emotions and slow talk during cutscenes.

The grand cosmic bullshit is their own bullshit that THEY want to do. No one was even asking for it.
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>>581415575
She was always my queen. My Blood Elf priestess served her well and always knew she was right. Then in the next expansion she flew to Zereth Mortis and was dreaming of orc dick while the Oracle spoke to her.
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>>581415802
Yeah you trannies are still crying about the bee lmao
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Hey guys, I just wanted to pop in and say I work the NAASP basically taking calls from people with suicidal ideation and referring them to various resources, and today has been fucking rough. Could you guys please chill out a little? It's just a game. Why don't you play the other one instead? This is the hardest day I've work I've ever had to deal with, and that includes the day of school shootings. Please don't fucking kill yourselves over a video game.

God loves you.
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we should be able to look like this in retail
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>>581416124
The one in the middle should make me his wife by force I think
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>>581416007
Your faction is 90% blood elves, if anyone's a tranny, that's the Horde.
That said, you are completely unhinged if you don't see how the lore was onesided until the alliance starded crying
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>>581415810
>blizzard was forced to give paladin to nelf because they know what's going to happen if the add forsaken paladin and nothing else
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>>581416106
I know this is a joke but I am legit worried for people if retail dies (If Forever replaces it or not)
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>>581415831
I know it's what they want to do, that's why the RTS story is better and has been more well received. It's grounded, the characters feel like they have something knocking around between their ears that isn't just the voice of the devs shitting out the plot, and the drama involved in it is far more humanly relatable than some billion year old whore trying to fondle the soul of a planet.
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Year of our Metzen 20+26 and Alliance players still in denial that their faction killed the IP
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>>581416254
Yeah the Alliance killed the world of Blood Elfcraft, for sure.
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>>581416242
I mean yeah, that was obvious. The excuse they used on stream was that Forsaken were getting Paladin to help the imbalance with Void Elf getting DH.
Then they completely gloss over the clear upcoming imbalance issue that'll be Paladins with Shadowmeld in end game content
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Ok, so since we now know that Forever is going to be the Warlands timeline, and the pvp megaserver is faction locked for all time do you choose the Great Glorious Alliance or the Blood Horde?
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>>581416170
>you are completely unhinged if you don't see how the lore was onesided until the alliance starded crying
https://bsky.app/profile/thefargo.bsky.social/post/3lbstwm63uu2p
>he was put in charge of writing in MoP and made sure to make Garrosh evil and give the Alliance a "win" by letting them invade Orgrimmar he hoped Alliance players would stop complaining but they didn't (his words, not mine)
The world is not enough for the alliance kike! Remember the 6 gorillion.
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>entire raid is talking about forever instead of focusing
>keep wiping to easy early shit
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so with 2 names, what is the point of early name reservations? couldnt I just switch my last name to something basically the same?
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So is this game dead now? i remember when I first became a sprout and everyone was saying that Dragonflight was gonna save wow or something.
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>>581414570
SOVL
classhit trannies could never
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>>581416440
I can't make a Horde character in Forever right now because of faction inbalance soooooo
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>>581416481
>what is the point of early name reservations
$$$
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>>581416481
Imagine letting someone ELSE have the name Cloud Strife.
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>>581416483
Yes. I literally only ever sub to do some delves, check out the new labyrinths, will sub for agony prey difficulty, and occasionally do some housing design

if I want to actually play WoW for real I'll do Forever
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>>581416546
It's been going back and forth all day. Gonna be that while for a while after launch too, I imagine. Good on them for committing to it for the PvP ruleset.
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>>581416483
right now? absolutely.

It'll really depend on how popular Forever is when it gets released. I don't really see people going back and forth between games. Ion has said there will be a push for new players to go to Forever too so I don't know what Retail will do going forward.

Theres been no real news about .2 but Midnight hasn't been well received at all.
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>>581416367
shadowmeld just needs to go. But also the Horde now has Paladin parity with the Alliance while the Alliance does not have Shaman parity.
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>>581403329
I fucking knew it too. This nignog truly ruins everything.
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>>581416735
>right now? absolutely.
didn't 12.1 come out not even a month ago? lol
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>>581416445
yet Orgrimmar was done tactfully, it's still a capital and without a gorillion civilians dying. Teldrassil was burned to the ground. And the undercity copout was also not permanent. GTFO blood elf tranny
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>>581416747
Yes and Horde still doesn't have DH parity.
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>>581416735
>. I don't really see people going back and forth between games
Are you retarded? That's the point of both games just look at the roadmap
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>>581417004
Yeah and people said that about Classic too

By TBC they were releasing shit at the same time.
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>>581416985
Literal nothingburger. Also DHs are not some cornerstone Alliance class, the Paladins used to be.
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>he bought classic for the 7th time
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>>581417073
>development of assets for both games
Ok you're un denial
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>>581417073
He's just coping and thinks there's some kind of overlap between retail and classic/forever players when there is none whatsoever.
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>>581416972
>tactfully
lmao what a fucking retard
enjoy the tranny alliance stories you asked for this
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>>581417362
I exist
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>>581417362
Forever's audience: Retail players, Classic players, People that hate Retail and want to try something new, New Players

Retail's Audience: Retail players, Mazed Rats
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>>581417418
my nigga the tranniest stories have been horde sided so far, but keep coping.
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>>581417362
>there is no overlap between retail and retail lite
Another retarded fag in denial.
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If Horde is the supposed tranny faction, how come the Alliance are always the main characters in all the tranny cosmic storylines this game's been having since Legion?
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>>581417768
>one trans character on Horde confined to valentines event
>multiple gay characters on Alliance, some pushed forefront in story to force you to interact with them
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>>581417768
You mean like the Blood Elves?
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>>581417885
you said it yourself, tranny faction lmao. Gays are not trans. KYS tranny faggot
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>>581417885
Alliance players know they'll never live down Anduin Wrynn getting kidnapped because Shaw was too busy getting his booty blasted by a butt Pirate, so they prefer to ignore it.
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>>581412735
That's canonically how elves talk.
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>>581417536
>>581417768
>>581417885
Let's see

Both:
Gay Frogs
Gay Centaurs
Lesbian Centaur
Pelagos the tranny king of the underworld
Ardenweald gays
Maldraxus lesbians
Dragon NPC who is a they/them


Alliance:
Miguel and his boyfriend
Sgaw and Flynn
Chromie?
Human/Draenei in the Shadows Rising book

Horde:
Pride Race
Tranny troll
Lesbian elfs in Legion

Anything I'm missing?

In conclusion: We're just playing a gay ass game
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>>581417362
I and several people I play with regularly in retail are absolutely gonna play forever. None of use had much interest in classic, because were all oldfags who were there back in the day.

Forever is the new take on vanilla that we wanted from classic and were disappointed that the "No changes" crowd got cancelled. There is MAJOR overlap between retail and forever, every retail player I have talked about Forever with has expressed interest and every single one of them said they intended to play both, not abandoned retail in favor of forever but rather continue playing retail as the "real" version of the game with more serious content and forever as a social chill space.
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>>581418205
>Tranny
that's infinitely worse than any gay shit
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>>581418205
no wonder Forever is popular, no one wants this shit
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>>581418205
You forgot Anduin Wrynn and his boyfriend Wrathion
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>>581418205
Pride Race***

Shouldn't count. Not because I don't want gays and shit around, but because Blizzard are fucking cowards in how they did it. No character says anything in regards to that, just general race/faction acceptance. The one character they practically had to represent it was kept to the back of the crowd with nothing new to say.
I'll laugh all day at how the gays and trannies got screwed over with their representation, but I also don't respect Blizz being the spineless fucks they are because the chinks would be upset.
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>>581418236
>None of use had much interest in classic, because were all oldfags who were there back in the day.
You are a retard
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>>581418707
Ok retard
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>>581418556
soul
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>>581418805
No u
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Now with Night Elf only missing Shaman and Evoker. When will they start designing every end game boss with Shadowmeld in mind?
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>>581419323
Actually meld is pretty much worthless in raids.
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>>581419429
Worthless for now
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>>581419562
4u
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>>581419562
It's trash by design because they know how busted meld is disjointing mechanics.
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>>581418205
>Lesbian elfs in Legion
Who?
Only ones I can think of is that one that got seduced by Succubi who turned out to be a fat mother imp which grossed them out.

Also at least four other gay couples in DF that could be considered neutral, but they were all Alliance races.
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>>581398197
I was 12 when I got into WoW, my dad played WC1 and my older brother was really into Starcraft and Warcraft 2/3 so I had played them all when I was little (but we are a Christian family, Diablo was not allowed). My brother was already in college when I started WoW. He started a few months after me, but because my parents didn't trust paying online, I'd buy gametime cards at gamestop. The boxes used to come with either a 7 or 14 day trial code. I'd send the codes to my brother and he basically became the WoW crack dealer at MIT and got all of his friends addicted. One of his friends actually got so addicted he dropped out of college.
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>>581404796
I hope they don't. They should work on actual new races instead of adding 30 flavors of elves like in retail
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>>581419785
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=107139/enchantress-ilanya

She talks about her GF
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>>581419958
Oh. Obscure as fuck, but interesting.
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>>581420053
I only remember it because it was like the first proper gay romance in wow
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>>581419958
How is that horde related?
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>>581403329
You forget the Blood Elves in TBC were basically an allegory for Metzen's own problems with addiction in the past. If anyone is less interested in High Elves, it's him. Of course he'd tell them to do something else instead
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>>581418205
>>581419785

jesus christ, dragonflight was such a mistake
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>>581420203
The fuck is this fanfic lmao the chinamen and koreans asked for belfs
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i am what they call a retailBULL
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>>581418205
>>Anything I'm missing.
Chromie and yes it counts as alliance because he chooses to look like a Gnome.
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>>581420186
you're right, she should have been an alliance

I was only going based on my memory and thought she was nightborne
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>>581420371
>Chromie looks like a gnome so Alliance tied
>Alexstrasza chooses to be a Blood Elf, so she's Horde coded
I'm fine with this.
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Is bear druid more fun now than it was in the last 2 expansions? I don't need it to be a blast i just need it to be slightly more entertaining
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>>581419958
>>581418205
problematic
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>talking about gays
>nobody mentioned the Femnelf/Femhumie mage couple in Azure Span
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>>581420371
Chromie was on the list
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>>581420637
That was one of the four I referred to >>581419785
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>>581420529
I don't play tanks but people always say they are the most boring tank and right now they are happy because dk and dh are top dogs
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>hoi polloi moving to forever
>get to enjoy a cozy end to retail together with the real autist niggas
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>Evitel confirms that people were getting sucked off during Blizzcon
>Tali did not know about it
>Evitel is hoarse from a sore throat

not beating the allegations
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>>581420551
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god i wish i could suck off nerds at blizzcon
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The Alliance are doubly gay because both Chromie and Morchie count tbqh
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>>581420929
That makes us two bro. Lok'thar!
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>>581421045
The alliance is retarded and gay because they ruined the narrative.
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>>581418205
>Anything I'm missing?
Debra
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>>581421127
>Lok'thar
Alliance sister had Lothar on the mind when trying to false flag. KWAB
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>>581421338
but she is straight and the future queen of sw
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>>581421538
She is at least non binary and I won't be surprised she will Elliot Page herself
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>>581418236
Forever is 95% Classic
You people are retarded and will quit before level 30 lol
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bros why do nelfs look much cooler in Forever than Retail
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>>581421717
This is my favorite gif
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>>581421715
Proof?
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My headcanon is Illidan and Sargeras have been brooding together and working on stick figure animations set to Linkin Park and I'm super excited to see both them in TLT
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bros....why won't anyone talk about retail? :( this is making christie golden and her alliance rp guild on mg cry PLEASE THINK OF RETAIL
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imagine if wow forever goes to the arathi kingdom and you can find little faerin there before she became a cripple
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>>581422014
>Implying Illidan didn't get Titanforged off screen
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>>581421354
You're not a cute big dicked blizzcon nerd so I don't see the need to argue with you
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Tali confirms that the Last Titan trailer at Blizzcon was thrown together at the last second because Blizz was worried retail players would feel alienated.

Holy shit imagine the seethe here if we didnt even get that
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>>581422183
Well they were right. This blizzcon has done nothing but leave retail players feel slighted and even more sour on the state of MIDnight an expansion they're already fed up with.
Hell, retail would have the objective worst showing at Blizzcon if Diablo 4 didn't announce it's killing itself go move onto Diablo 5 instead
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alliancesissies, I feel like I'm coming home
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I can already tell I'm going to get very autistic about proper naming conventions and it's going to color my interactions with people severely
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>>581421780
Hopefully this means we get old animation sets back for retail
I would actually cum if we did
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>Taliesin moving to Forever

It's so over, retail is for the fookin pricks
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Remember that one time when Taliesin spent the whole Blizzcon 2023 in a company of two black gentlemen in the bathroom?
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>>581422506
As a toggle, maybe
Everything past pandaren that isn't a shared skeleton can get fucked lol
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>>581422346
inv to asmon lair
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>>581422126
>cinematic opens with Mecha-Illidan spreading his metal wings on top of a giant titanbot
Yeah nah way too kino
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>>581422604
just off camera are the two men
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Why are you guys always talking about gay shit or poop shit?
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Will Forsaken get Light eye customization options?
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>>581422956
It's what's always on your mind when you play Alliance.
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>>581422995
Dunno that's .2 shit and we are are like 3 months away from release
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>release new expansion for WC3 to explain Forsaken Paladins
>the expansion ends with the idea that forsaken paladins CANNOT exist
>now there are thousands of forsaken paladins running around

wtf are they doin
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>>581423217
>modern blizz writing
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>>581423217
Garek did exist, and other Forsaken paladins have existed since him, all of which could survive the Light. He was the foundation; what came after built the structures.
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>>581422815
Wow he really is a supportive husbie <3
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>>581423351
it ended with him not being able to use it without killing himself
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>>581423351
Garek is not canon
Sir zeliek carried the forsaken paladins
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Forever gets one big RP server ruleset its not split between wyrmshit and shitguard I would laugh so hard if this kills off MG and Wyrm RP. Forever will even have its own Goldshire ;)
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its so over
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>>581420831
>a cozy end to retail
how can you kill that which has no life?
that which is dead can never die
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>>581423473
He is.
>>581423470
He used it before that, but it burned, which is expected. What killed him was blowing the fuck up sufficient to destroy the ziggurat he was on.
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>in Forever at nighttime my shaman's lightning glows and lights up the area around me

DUDE why the fuck arent they doing this in retail
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>>581423619
It will have sharding for quite some time I imagine, which actually kills a lot of RP.
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So like... is Forever so dead in the water that they can only talk about it here or something?
What was the point of making their own thread?
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GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /wowg/! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Forsaken Paladin (Yes, THE Forsaken from the Horde) getting released in Retail! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming patch when Forsaken Paladins walk into the spotlight!
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>implying nelves aren't going to steal the show
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>>581423857
I already have my name saved. Yes it is cooler than yours.
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>>581423845
probably don't talk about dead threads in wowg
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>>581423945
>no velves
:(
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>>581423979
What's your name and title?
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>>581422995
if not in the next patch then surely whenever they decide to update undercity
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>>581423945
lol everyone's forgotten Darkspear trolls can also be paladins. I bet they'll suck anyway. Loa gives them Light powers. What the fuck else would it be? It's always a loa.
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>>581423845
what did you expect, or better yet what did they expect?
its a level 20 beta of the same tired quests they've done 100 times already
oooooh ahhhhh
shiny!
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>>581424046
Faerinegro Lockhertarbaby
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>>581422995
I know they have plenty of colors available for the eyes, is yellow not one of them?
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>>581423945
Nig Elves aren't getting a dedicated questline for the patch, so it's basically impossible for them to steal the show. Especially when 90% of discussion around Night Elf Paladin will be Nig Elf mains bitching there's no Elune themed spells effects
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>>581424082
To be fair no one wanted darkspear paladin, they shouldn't even be a thing but they had to give something to alliance to avoid their bitching.
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>>581424046
Grand Crusader Graven.
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>>581424179
Nelfadins will be justified by "they learned from their Human husbands"
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>>581424175
Yeah bright yellow is available right now.

>>581424179
They said the 3 races are getting quest lines in .7.

>>581424262
>grand crusader
You have no idea how much pain you're going to inflict on the alliance with that title lol.
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Will Night Elf Paladin mains finally surpass Human Paladin mains as the biggest cucks of wow?
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>>581424179
this is already happening in a lore discord lol all the nig elf fans are mad that they have light themed cat mount instead of a paladin of elune mount nig elves never happy
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>>581424442
I remember there was a moon bear with a silver armor that one is perfect for nelf paladin
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>>581424442
Blizzard will ultimately cave and give them what they want. This always happens. Meanwhile Troll and Forsaken fans are happy they get something cool to mess with.
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>>581403329
fucking lol this man has become straight poison to the franchise
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>>581424771
Why the fuck do people still want high elves so bad? What is the difference at this point? This feels more like a grudge fans hold than an actual want.
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>>581424872
Not him but are you seriously asking why people want one of the original wc races instead of a shitty asspull sky elf?
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>>581424975
Yes because it isn't like they would be so goddamn amazing that it would justify the wait. Okay, dope, you have new racials... and every cosmetic option available to blood elves. Blue eyes? Blood elves have blue eyes. The only difference is lore, and who the fuck cares about lore?
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i don't understand lairs, it takes longer to kill the boss at lfr difficulty than it did to kill a regular world boss and you only get veteran gear kek
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>>581424872
It is a grudge. I know an asian chick who only wants High Elves because she's pissed Alliance didn't get Blood Elves back in TBC because High Elves were in the Alliance in Warcraft 2. A game she never touched. Everytime she pops up and asks about retail since Legion, it's always
>Have they added High Elves yet? No? Fuck Blizzard.
It doesn't matter there's an entire list of races more deserving at this point that still aren't added and have arguably a longer legacy. It has to say High Elf and be on the Alliance, or she won't accept any replacement. Sky Elves, Void Elves, Blood Elves. Nothing is better to her than the idea of High Elf.
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>>581425136
lairs exist to give you extra loot from world bosses because normal, heroic and mythic exist
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>>581425173
That's a fucking psychosis. Honestly I don't think Blizz should add anymore elves ever again, but I also possess enough self awareness to know that's unlikely. I want AT LEAST one more horror race. The last horror race was worgen for fuck's sake.
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I just want gnolls so bad
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>>581425530
it was good they confirmed no new allied races in tlt but belf will be released on forever eventually maybe helf as well
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>>581422956
why are wow players...
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>>581425629
I agree. I'm sure TLT is adding a new class. I want tinker but, again, I possess self awareness and I find that unlikely. Every new class ever added matched the theme of the expansion, so whatever new class is introduced in TLT will be Titan-themed.
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>>581425110
I'm escaping retails shitty writing and you can't stop me retailshill-chan.
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>>581425110
>mounts!
>mogs!
>cheevos!
ya, you're totally not playing retail anon
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>>581425865
Titan oriented tinker make sense considering the robot we saw
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>>581425865
titan themed tinkerer makes total sense anon
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>doing maze
>target a specific item or two
>over the course of 16 hours acquire two (2) of them
classic+ can't come quick enough
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bros i dont even feel like playing retail anymore i feel like a second class citizen :( even the q and a was all forever questions retail is dead bros....it was nice while it lasted...
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>>581425757
it is known, anti soul gas happens to all video game remakes/remasters
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>>581425110
some ai spent time on this and didn't even get it accurate
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>>581425865
it is confirmed to be tinker
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>>581426016
>>581426032
But... that sounds hi-tech. Tinkers are supposed to be experimental maniacal shitheads who slam two parts together to make a missile or a barely functional laser gun. I want explosions, not nanobots.
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>>581426254
when in the last 10 years has Retail ever delivered on something
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>>581426254
you will get a mech, a turret and some rockets/explosives. All the mounts using the sky golem rig will unlock customizations for your mech
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>>581426254
There are 2 possible outcomes:
>high tech with lasers and a mech
>regular engineer with bombs
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Does worlo really need two mail classes releasing back to back? No way Tinker would be plate, leather or cloth. Ion surely learned his lesson from Monk into DH.
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>>581426465
plate wearing tinker knight would be the best outcome actually
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I hope we get tinker. I don't know if I would bother maining it, but my friend would. That little autistic retard won't play wow if he can't be a tinker like in gw2. Would be nice to play games together again. :)
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>>581426459
or both and they finally introduce an expanded ability cosmetic customization system
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>>581426937
I feel like it doesn't matter when you can make a regular engineer mog
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>>581426248
>confirmed
Yeah, I'm sure the MMOChampion forums have confirmed it.
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>>581427180
Tinker would be a kino hero class locked to Gnome, Mecha-Gnome, Goblin and Maghar Orc. But knowing Blizzard it'll be a normal class so their pet race Elves can play it.
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>>581427318
>mmoc knew about kithix and forsaken paladins
I trust them
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>>581425110
Wheres the mythic plus checkmark?
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>>581427389
both belf and nightborne have robots on their army
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>>581427419
They've also produced thousands of bullshit predictions since Wrath. Yes, I am sure that after awhile, someone got something right.
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>>581424872
I don't want high elves at all, but blizzard constantly spiting the people that do is starting to annoy me as well. Blizzard is the one with the grudge and I don't get it. It's such easy money and would make elf fags happy forever. The laziest race blizzard add could for maximum praise.
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>>581424370
Human Male Paladin is biggest chad in gaming. Fuck off tranny
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I haven't played since Shadowlands since that was so terrible and so was BFA, what level do I have to be to access Dragonflight and War Within content?
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>>581427708
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>>581427720
Can do DF at 60. War Within at 70. I also quit in shadowlands but came back. I skipped dragonflight though since it looked gay. I just did chromie time in WoD for fast leveling from 60-70
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>>581427720
10 for both I think tww is already scaled down
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>>581427702
Void Elves were the compromise and it's far too late to do it now. High Elves will have to be a neutral race to be added to wow now because all wow can release now is neutral races. But if High Elves become playable, they'll be forced onto the Horde as well which then brings back to the ultimate point that there's no real difference between Blood Elf and High Elf, so Horde would be getting exactly a 2nd batch of Blood Elves wasting yet another character slot on top of Blizzard constantly telling them no, they can never have Amani, even in the expansion you spend half it it helping the Amani because the High Elf fans will chimp out if Horde got their WC2 race first. It's a lose lose situation they wrote themselves into come Legion
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the woke within
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>>581428005
>Horde have Stone Dwarves and Fat Nig Elves forced onto them
>Told they're not allowed Amani
>Devs proceed to say there's no more races coming this saga
Where did it all go so wrong. Haranir stole the Amani's place
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>>581427921
>>581427924
Your answers are conflicting. I spoke to Chromie and she doesn't have much to offer.
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>>581428637
Honestly I don't know where to start the timewalking campaing as alliance
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>>581428806
I did some googling. Turns out there are multiple Chromies around the same pond. I can tell that Blizzard has thought a lot about the new player experience.
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>>581428941
That's so weird, there is only 1 chromie in orgrimmar
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Pretty based that Blizzard's already planning a new Warcraft 3 campaign called the founding of Thunder Bluff
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>>581429189
How do you know?
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>>581429264
Ion told me
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>>581429351
I thought that fag doesn't know anything besides make mythic plus and raids too hard. Thats why everyone left for Forever.
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>>581429469
If you saw the balancing of the combat in the new Warcraft 3 campaign you know Ion had a hand in it
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>>581429469
You're coping
Ion owns you
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>>581429189
warcraft 3 is really fun, I'm glad they are investing it in, they need to bring back ambient occlusion tho and keep improving performance
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>>581429528
>Avoid circles
>Hide behind pillars
>Stand between waves that will clear trash for you
>All encounters are a gear check
Checks out
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Why are they releasing paladins with 12.2 instead of .7?
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If I choose to do Dragonflight at level 10, will it really get me to level 70?

If I choose to do Dragonflight at level 45, how much of it will I miss out on when I switch to War Within at 70?
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>>581430250
Yes

Most of it, no matter what you do you will outlevel df before 70
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>>581429780
Sorry its fake, the uv's don't match the diffuse.
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>>581429189
I've heard they're doing Founding of Zephras Isle
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Fuck you /wowg/ i'm gonna spoil todays wordle
'SNOWY'
ITS SNOWY! ITS SNOWY!! SNOWY SNOWY!!! this is what you get.
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>>581430462
Wtf is zephras isle?
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didnt troonflight kill the classic menace once and for all? i thought for sure playable nonbinary tranny dragons would shut them up for good, theres no way you could one-up that... but they're back for more...?
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>>581430484
Haha, wordle dork.
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>>581430462
Impossible. There's not enough Demon Models in WC3 to milk an entire campaign out of.
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Forever most likely going to be on Xbox so normies can enjoy WoW on console....meanwhile Retail can't even get on xbox.....on top of that retail had a pity Q&A that nobody cared about and most of the Q&A was for Forever.....I'm for retail it's so over bros...
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>>581431014
No one with an Xbox is gonna play Forever wow.
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>>581429548
How in the fuck are you gonna be able to do mythic keys on Xbox? Its literally impossible. Its already too hard for 80% of people on keyboard
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>>581429780
imagine if we got this instead of bluelves
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Not a great day...
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>have 1/6 myth chest
>can't get a hero track chest to drop for the life of me
Up to 70 myth crests banked now, getting ready to just bite the bullet and be uneconomical
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It's called Forever because this is where Classic uncs go to die
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>>581431312
They are removing the cap soon anyway
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>>581431350
Wodbros... It's over...
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>>581430384
Wtf why is it so much bigger than all of the other expansions?
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>>581431350
Forever home is just corpo newspeak for live service games.
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>>581431545
Let's hope for the classic sisters it goes better than how Diablo 4 was supposed to be Diablo fan's forever home
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>>581431350
What does unc mean?
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>>581431545
>corpo newspeak for live service games.
I mean wow was always a live service game
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>get new bracers with speed for my speed set
>300 ilvl above last piece
>technically gives less speed because i cant put tww speed enchant on it
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I really don't like the change to transmog armor restriction because it means I'm going to have to waste even more time combing over vendor stock.
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>>581431078
would still be more than people playing retail
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How do we solve worlo's unrealistic beauty standards?
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>>581430860
Think you can just... call me that and get away with it? im coming slapping you!
*moobs and tummy jiggling while sprinting*
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if demo doesnt get nerfed i legitimately think they just plug the game into an LLM and ask it to balance with no context.
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>>581431625
I heard diablo isn't even in Diablo 4. How did those retards come up with that? They're more brain dead than Ion
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>>581431625
D4 will probably stay popular for a long time, the D5 interviews make it sound like they're trying to make their own BG3 with an arpg focused around managing npc relationships in some wholesome chungus caravan.
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>>581432331
>D4 will probably stay popular for a long time,
They already announced zero new content. It got EOS'd by PoE.
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>>581432239
prison gay
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>>581394924
Love wowg anons!!!
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the soul of nirimer (pbuh) has come to possess me i feel
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I love how dark Elwynn Forest looks at night in Forever
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>>581432398
Didn't they released new content last week?
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>>581432239
You have no hope of catching me. This is good, you'll finally get some exercise.
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>>581432320
Diablo was basically off-limits the same with Tyrael until the latest expansion because both were the main characters of Diablo Immortal's 2nd major storyline. That storyline wrapped up before the final Diablo 4 expansion released allowing them to have Tyrael show up in the latter half of that expansions story. Instead of doing another expansion focusing on Diablo they just said fuck it, we'll do Diablo 5 instead and throw Diablo and Baal in a memberberries season instead.
Now Diablo 5 is like 3 years off which will give it enough space for immortal to finish it's current arc involving Andariel and what ever other shit they got planned.
The reality of the situation is that Diablo 4 likely got taken out back thanks to a combination of this and the D4 team needing to say they're actually working on a new project so Microsoft doesn't take them out back like they did D4.
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>>581432561
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Well at least im actually enjoying ret paladin for the first time in years instead of gaslighting myself, might try warlock later..
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>>581432659
Sounds like Asha went to Blizzard and they panicked hard. Honestly that Blizzcon was so fucking boring outside of WoW content and a Starcraft trailer 4 years from now. This company is probably gonna get layoffs soon
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>>581432659
This does lead to a good question. How many things in retail will end up being off-limits because the Forever team wanna do something with it instead? They both share a sub and Holly is exactly the type of woman who'd go
>Well if you wanna see the Horde do shit, play Forever it's free
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>>581432725
retail version at the same time for reference
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>>581432659
Just reset the timeline man.
Hard reboot set during the Sin War.
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>>581432561
I'm hoping they bring the lighting effects to retail because I don't see forever lasting but it is the best looking thing they've put out in years, I think it majorly helps that there's not a bunch of goofy looking races like dracthyr and vulpera in the most garish transmogs possible constantly polluting your screen as well just the old races that fit in to those environments like they were made to
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>>581432901
Wouldn't be the first time. World Soul Saga is 100% a in the moment choice Metzen and Holly made originally when they found out they were being brought by Microsoft for sure and needed something to actually sell so they don't lose funding.
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>>581432901
No blizzard is pretty solid as they are their only studio not bleeding money
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>>581432725
nintendo actually hired that man huh
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>>581433118
I love the new spell effect glow, I hope they bring that over too

Smiting people as a Priest feels so much better than in Retail
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>>581432917
0 because forever is basically another timeline.
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>>581432725
>>581433045
I love this too, they kept what you think of when you think of "classic graphics" but added more atmosphere.
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>Normals are too scared of lil ole foxes and ran away to forever.

Why are they so soft?
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>>581433373
It looks great at night but really bad during the day but the other anon is right the spell effects are really good
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>>581432917
Probably no chance at all because retail has progressed so much further the original world doesn't even exist and 99% of the loose ends from the pre cata era have been tied up or swept away, the sky elves plus the hints they've been dropping about the storming sea and windwall make it seem like after the last titan retail is likely fucking off from Kalimdor/EK forever and moving to the Arathi homeland
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>>581431496
Blizzard only cares about getting people to the latest expansion.
For that reason, the 10-70 levelling experience is extremely quick and only takes roughly 2 levelling zones before you're done.
Then Blizzard rushes you through a quick recap of the War Within during 70-80, but you usually hit 80 before you're anywhere near finished with it.
Then you do the slog that is the latest expansion, the only content that actually matters and with levelling speed that matches the pace of the content.
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WoW raiding is the purest test of gaming skill because it requires so much for you to visually process, abilities to track, and your ability to adapt when the situation changes. You are constantly adapting to what targets you, where you have to move, your own resources and CDs, etc. All while maximizing CD windows and rolling your rotation. Nailing a fight you don't overgear and cheese is hard as fuck.
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I wish retail did talent trees like forever I hate retails gay here is ur single target here is ur aoe build
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>>581433576
So if I did Legion instead of Dragonflight, just Stormheim and Highmountain would get me from level 10 to 70?
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>>581433438
I got my female vulpera to 90 so my male paladin self insert can fuck her. I don't get why all the vulpera posters here are so gay. I'll probably start another female.
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forever runs worse than fucking retail for me
what did they do
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>>581433752
All the graphic shit is taxing your pc
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>>581433576
Is 10 to 70 really that easy? I thought you still had to do elwynn forest, duskwood and loch modan and all that shit again.
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>>581433690
Yeah, I made a new demon hunter yesterday and played suboptimally.
I was around level 20 when I got out of the DH starting zone, around level 50 when I got out of Aszuna, got to 60 in roughly six hours from starting and am due to be done with Highmountain roughly when I hit 70.
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>>581433752
alot
specs?
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>>581433752
I only get like 40 frames in retail and it chugs randomly. Forever is straight 60 no dips
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>>581414903
I hope he shows up again in the undead paladin mount questline
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okay it's getting a bit silly now, I can barely see my character

glowy holy powers are cool though
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Every single retail interview makes it feel like they don't give a shit about anything but antagonizing their players. You can feel the seething hatred for their customers.
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>>581432402
I was in prison with pawbert lynxley!
>>581432656
Then i'll stop running, fine!
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>>581434372
How so?
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>>581434372
It's clear at this point they're checked out of the expansion and are a bit vindictive that 12.0 and 12.1 weren't received as well as they wanted both from a content side and a writing side. Even Remix news feels pretty half-arsed this time around
>Hmm, what was a popular Xpack? Uuuuh, Wrath! Give them runecarving for all classes!
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>>581433910
Yes.
>Level 1 to 10, either in your racial/class starting zone or in Exile's Reach, takes less than an hour.
>Level 10 to 70, go with a Chromie Time of your choice, you can expect to gain roughly 10 levels an hour while the Winds of Mysterious Fortune event is active.
>Level 70 to 80, the War Within recap, you can expect to be done in one or two hours.
>Level 80 to 90, things slow down significantly, one to two levels every hour depending on your perks.
Generally, you need to be playing really suboptimally in order to take more than 18 hours to hit cap from 1.
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>>581434493
>12.0 and 12.1 weren't well received
midnight was solidified as dogshit when we got ai generated delves 1.5 and then invasions for 3 patches
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RELICTOR CALLED ME A RETOILET AGAIN
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>>581433731
What was she underage before hitting lvl 90?
>gay vulpera posters
It's some furry meme about foxes being submissive. That's about as deep as that goes.
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>>581434493
They are in the same fullblown seethe mode they were in during 2021
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>>581434493
Why do these retards think xal'atath femdom is good? No one actually likes femdom. I should be the one raping and dominating. Blizzard has no clue bro
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>>581434526
>WoW finally got last names
Fucking nice, only 26 years behind Everquest! We're catching up bros
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>Voidstorm is supposed to be a big loss for Azeroth and the moment we lose in 12.0
>Only characters to actually die are a bunch of nameless Army of the Light dudes who no one in this general can name and Lothraxion, who's a Dreadlord. So death doesn't really matter
>Devs make a big deal about Alleria and Turalyon being lost trying to frame it like our big loss we should be sad like Arator is as he cries the rest of the expansion over his parents
>Turns out like how everyone guessed as soon as they "were lost", they got shat down in Worldcore for the final patch so they could make some Thraegar allies off screen so the devs don't have to do a proper Thraegar introduction for the final zone.
>Only actual notable death this xpack (so far) was Zul'jan which did nothing but piss everyone off
MIDnight is gonna be remembered as one of the expansioons of all time.
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>>581434997
I don't want to put my last name so I'm not playing Forever. I'm using my real name as my WoW character
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>>581434339
get a torch or a glowing wand, silly
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>>581434653
No I just wanted to get the warband exp buff. All my alts are female because my main is the harem protagonist and literally me
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>>581435014
Alleria and Turalyon are Blizzards strongest off-screen merchants. All their actual feats come off-screen and do nothing but job as soon as they're on screen
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So………. Should we expect them in like a decades time to make another Warcraft 3 expansion? Something for Jaina perhaps since she always had that really weird gap between letting strathome get sacked and meeting Thrall in medivh’s cave? A Gileneas prequel?
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>>581435014
>end of the initial tww patches turalyon and alleria make up and are back to being a normal couple
>start of midnight their relationship is falling apart again
>arator and turalyon have a fight then make up
>plot point is fully resolved
>few minutes later alleria is mad about it even though both turalyon and arator tell her to stop
between this and the amani storyline having you killing them with an option objective to try to negotiate the write feels schizophrenic in a non meme way like it's all over the place and can't pick a tone and constantly retreads plot points it resolved 5 minutes earlier
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>log in
>realize it's just classic
>log off
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>>581435324
Hope Turaylon dies in TLT, so I can fuck his wife after hes buried
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>>581433215
it's more like slow updating and extending retail without adding a million bugs and exploits to the more current seasonal stuff. it's conceivable in the very distant future that the legacy parts of current wow simply get swapped out for forever (with legacy just staying as forever horizontal style) and only a classic rotation remains.

>>581432917
not much more complex than retail just won't do as much time travel back and forever will get around to it eventually if it's a good idea.

>>581433120
think it's just they collectively decided to go after the private servers more directly with something bigger than sod. part they wanted to and part ms wanting them to try to capture the revenue. the whole thing is some awkward needle threading.
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>>581435295
If Jaina got a campaign then they'd have to bring Laura Bailey back and she's too expensive for the budget they likely have for the WC3 Campaigns. If they do anymore campaigns for WC3 it'll be set between WC3 and the start of vanilla, which leads the remaining options to be.
>Founding of Thunderbluff
>Stormwind founding the new Alliance with the Ironforge Dwarves and Gnomes
>Founding of Teldrasil and the Nig Elves joining the Alliance
>What ever the fuck Lor'themar was doing for his people between the end of TFT and the start of TBC
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>>581434013
That is mental wtf
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>>581435434
>His wife
You forget how they wrote a prequel to Midnight to explicitly say despite Turalyon and Alleria being over a thousand years old now, they didn't get married. And Alleria called off the wedding and returned the ring before MIDnight.
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>start the season like 5 weeks late
>still catching up, super behind
>still get whispers randomly complimenting my dps
Feels like for a few years now I've been getting whispers of that nature at least once per pug run as the norm. As in the times I run wtih a pug group and don't get anything seem to be the exception rather than the rule. I wonder if this is the case for everyone. Is there some sort of whisper boom going on or something where people just keep whispering each other with compliments
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>>581435447
>it's conceivable in the very distant future that the legacy parts of current wow simply get swapped out for forever (with legacy just staying as forever horizontal style) and only a classic rotation remains.
This make no sense and it's totally unrelated to his question, nothing is off limits for retail because forever is another timeline and the other way around.
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>>581435569
Just replace her, using big name VAs that 99% of the playerbase doesn't care about is one of the worst cancer's on the modern gaming industry, I don't care if the VA is some famous actor (real or VA) just put that money towards making the game good and pay some cal arts student $100 and a sandwich to do it no one but the absolute peak of autists are going to notice the difference
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>>581435569
Do a Gnome campaign about the fall of Gnomergon, leading into them moving to Ironforge for act 2, then Ironforge and SW form the Alliance for act 3.
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>>581435014
I know nothing compares to the amount of desecration to the lore and characters in BFA/shadowlands but boy howdy does midnight do its absolute best to just makes every flavor of elves fucking suck ass one way or another.
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Can't believe they did another Silvermoon fuckup by forcing the Horde logo where it doesn't belong.
Lordaeron crest would have gone so fucking hard in this shot.
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>>581435816
recent expansions have made me not want to fuck with whatever race they make us deal with

Dragons, Dwarves, NuGoblins and now Elves

Can't wait to figure out what race will be ruined next.
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>>581435949
Thankfully Blizzard hates Naga and they will never be added to any version of the game for some reason.
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>>581435795
I agree with you. But I dunno, gamers are really autistic about voice acting. I could definitely see WoW players retaliating about that gay shit and call Blizzard cheap. They probably don't want negative PR
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>>581433731
Because being a furry is inherently gay and being gay is colorful and imaginative. Straights are conformist appeasing the blandest things(women) on the planet that hate you for having hobbies so of course they'd default to be the human paladin.
So anyways, did you really have to declare that sir hmofa boy? need to show off so badly...?
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>>581436040
Pretty sure laura baily didn't even start voicing her until wrath not like other characters haven't had voice actor changes as well, find some cheapo that's mostly the same and people will comment on it for a month or two before moving on to the next outrage of the day
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>>581436040
No one is going to give a shit it's just a wc3 campaing
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>>581435816
i would honestly put midnight into the same category as those expansions in terms of being such a complete assrape of lore and total mishandling of the vibes and feel of warcraft that it feels utterly hopeless trying to care about it
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>>581435572
it's something like pre 80 is like 6-8 quests a level. first crafts can do around 10 or more levels depending on xp boost
while 81-90 is like 40-50 each.

>>581435787
it's not all another timeline. seriously just shut the fuck up entirely if you can't even cut through the devs double talk.
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>>581436156
>>581436221
Not that guy but you two forget that people see Jaina as Laura Bailey now the same way people see Thrall as Chris Metzen.
They won't get away with replacing her, especially when her husband also does voice work for Blizz and a bunch of the other critical role circlejerk
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>>581434376
That's not wowo! Who the fuck is pawbert lynxley?
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>>581436503
It is wowo, Pawbert Lynxley is a saberon character, the furry cat race that isn't playable yet, sadly.
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>>581436323
It is another timeline and your cope is not relevant
>if you can't even cut through the devs double talk.
lmao
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Wrath Remix is such a shitty idea for next year, they should do it this year

We're gonna spend like 2 months OP in northrend and then TLT comes out and we have to level there again but with shittier stats
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>>581435569
>If Jaina got a campaign then they'd have to bring Laura Bailey back and she's too expensive for the budget they likely have for the WC3
their in house voice actress that did OG jaina and the femhumie voicelines is leagues better than Laura Bailey
Same with whoever they got to do the fembelf lines
way cheaper too
>its generic
don't give a shit about some pompous voice actors guild nepohire sounds like people want to listen to cute girl voices not some fucking dignified heroine voice actress
fuck outta here with that shit
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>>581436895
Should be done at the end of Last Titan. That way people won't get burned out on Northrend when the final season already has them doing shit in a version of Northrend anyway.
Unironically, SL Remix or BFA Remix would've been a better choice. Better yet, why not y'know, do BFA remix given the whole azerite and sword shit is being relevant again in 12.2???
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>>581436895
Why doesn't retail have more events? They're so fucking slow. Just re run Mop remix again or some shit. Theres nothing to do
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>>581437025
That VA probably hasn't worked for Blizz in over 15 years. Majority of the returning characters for the Forsaken Kingdom campaign use their Hearthstone VA's aside from Whitemane who seems to be someone else again. Laura Bailey still does voice lines in bulk for Jaina in HS so if they do a Jaina campaign, it'll be her.
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>>581435569
After how insufferable and humiliating they are in Midnight, a blood elf campaign part 2 on the same level as Forsaken kingdom would do wonders but that seems like a lot more work and thus more likelihood to fuck it up since as you say, we don’t know Jack shit about what they could’ve been up to between all the other events.
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>>581437061
aren't we like 3 weeks into a new patch

>>581437035
BFA would make the most sense
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>>581436895
I'm fine with Wrath remix so I can get Arthas stupid horse. Blizzard are lazy retards that still dont want to give a raid skip in ICC to farm the mount
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Retail will be renamed to Fellowship 2 after TLT to reflect its only purpose
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>>581436093
Why you hate straight furrys? Are you upset we won't erp with you? That's no good. I know we're a rarity and that adds to our appeal, but it's just not going to happen.
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>>581437243
think its week 5?
500 cap on myth/hero crests
ya gotta be
i'm like 60% of the way through the cap on my alt dk and i have nothing to spend them on i don't even have 4 set because i clearly have a shit loot seed and i know i can't take this character to coiled/ulatek
bonus rolls are a scam
oh ALSO i should just get the same amount of fucking hero crests as myth crests as a reward for mythic plus because i gotta refarm all those fuckers when i'm done with the myth crests
god these systems are GARBAGE if you don't want to sit at your computer for 60 hours in the first fucking week of the season
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people seem to think retail is getting a sort of reset post-TLT.

If they really flipped the board to try and change things massively from a world/story attitude, what would you hope to see?
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>>581437493
We get to the Arathi Empire and find out once again, somehow Ogres have already colonized half the island.
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>>581437193
it would be so fucking jarring playing war3 and knowing jaina isn't laura bailey for 95% of the game and then just shoehorn her in lol
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>>581437543
>charismatic, rare high IQ ogre magi emperor puppeting his retarded people into military and geopolitical domination
kino
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>>581436093
>So anyways, did you really have to declare that sir hmofa boy? need to show off so badly...?
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why isn't that paladoink a latinks?
you're not fooling anyone lmfao
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They should put me in the game.
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>>581437565
They already did it for Sylvanas, they use Patty Mattson for Forsaken Kingdom over Piera Coppola
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>>581437493
they said it on blizzcon the story will get some sort of reset
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>>581437771
Yeah, deep in Grim Batol.
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>>581437493
the problem is that the only thing that is going to work is essentially what forever is now doing. they basically cut themselves off from their own course correction

people act like just trying to redo the setting all over in avaloren will work but that is just another khaz algar, another dragon isles, etc. it's going to be more bland neutral factions that will vanish one expansion later with zero development for the actual playable races and factions. it's going to be more world of windrunner slop where you just follow main characters around and all the writing is about their feelings.

literally the only thing that would work is doing exactly what forever is doing and there's no way even if they wanted to do it that the higher ups would okay two flagship versions of wow doing the same thing. now they're more likely to double down on cosmic dogshit and arator-tier storytelling to differentiate retail from forever because the selling pitch for forever is that it's actual fucking warcraft

it's fucked
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wowcrap finally losted
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>>581437493
6 dungeons
3 zones
1 new spec
1/2 a new race
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Divine Shield + Cannibalize is gonna be hella OP in Battlegrounds unless Blizz does something about it now.
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>>581438139
its kino so its ok
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>>581437793
i think thats a mistake but who gives a shit what i think
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>>581437975
Yeah, the answer to salvage the setting was to make a proper wow 2 after Last Titan. But Holly wanted a Classic player forever home instead.
The optimal play was a 3 prong attack. Announce WoW 2 is in the works after Last Titan. Last Titan will be the final major expansion with wow transitioning into something like Forever is now if they can figure out what to do and make a Warcraft 4 as a time skip set up for wow 2.

Instead she decided to arguably fuck up both sides now
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>>581437493
a time skip maybe
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xelsneed or whateverher name is is going to win and the only solution will be for velen and the titans to reset the timeline
boom, wow 2
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>>581437439
>straight furrys
>erp with you
Freudian slip there buddy...
Nyehehehe ;3
>>581437663
I hope you find your 'trad furry wife', i really do. When she cheats on you for a goblin because he makes more money than you, you'll understand.
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>>581437493
Don't bother with a new campaign or story. Just have a new zone, dungeons, quests, and 1 raid.
>But they can't sell a new xpac without a story!
Why not? I'm taking Ion at his word when he said Azeroth needs help one last time. They should just make it low stakes
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>>581438378
at this point I'd prefer it
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just redo the garrosh schtick again but make it an alliance character this time
god damn they got three expansions out of that
only problem is theres no one that bad azz enough to be the guy
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>>581438496
ENTER
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The Warcraft IP's problem is stagnancy. It hasn't evolved in 20 years, hell it's regressed in a lot of ways. The MMO couldn't serve the setting forever and arguably, book ending it with MoP would've worked as a good end point avoiding the off the walls bullshit that became WoD's time travel and Legion fucking the setting over with it's ending.

>>581438496
They can't do a Garrosh for Alliance because the Alliance fans have for 20 years shown time and time again they will not accept anything that breaks their self formed identity of wanting to play He-Man and Friends. Thus we circle back into the BFA problem where they had to do Garrosh 2.0 with Sylvanas instead and got some of the worst expansions ever out of it.
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>>581438496
They ran out of straight high testosterone males to kill. Who the fuck they gonna kill? Arator? LMFAO. People gonna cheer when that gay faggot dies.
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>>581438284
I don't want wow 2. My cheevos will be gone.
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post good
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Should've given Tyrande the Elf/Alliance Hitler arc desu
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>>581438789
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>>581437771
that character is very sexually assault coded
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anyone played worlo forever beta?
how's paladin?
how many paladins are there?
how's warrior and rogue?
shaman?
it it any different with new changes?
what about blue elves starting zone?
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>>581437975
Just do another WoD but the portal closes behind us. Collectibles andies keep their crap and we get something fresh that has to be built upon.
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>>581438623
>The Warcraft IP's problem is stagnancy. It hasn't evolved in 20 years, hell it's regressed in a lot of ways.
It's really wild seeing how creative the team was 25 years ago with subverting fantasy stereotypes and making more interesting creations out of their literal ruins and now the IP is about Tolkien humans and Tolkien elves fighting color-coded blobs with all the permanency and threat of a Saturday morning cartoon
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Why are alliancesissies so fragile in regards to being the bad guy
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>>581439181
Because at the end of the day Alliance is the faction you like if you just wanna play Lord of the Rings but can't stand LOTRO
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>>581439123
If I can't be human male or female elf, I don't want to play these shitty fantasy games anymore anyway.
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end of TLT will teleport the planet to the koprulu sector and we will get playable protoss
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>>581438308
This is real dork behavior. See I don't even know what a freud is or why it slips. We love you for it though. Now play nice with your furrends and stop starting civil wars.
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>>581439019
>how's paladin?
kino
>how many paladins are there?
hundreds of undead pallys on my realm
>how's warrior and rogue?
warrior felt way more survivable, didn't try out rogue
>shaman?
probably the best class I played, the lightning lights up in the dark, it looks/feels great. Oh and my troll had unique totems
>it it any different with new changes?
there was a few new quests even in the first leveling area. I made sure the gnolls were classic version though
>what about blue elves starting zone?
didn't try that shit
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>>581439295
>on my realm
i thought they got rid of realms
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>>581439267
and rogue dark templars, intredasting
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so it's basically confirmed illidan is back for sargeras sword right? I wonder how retail will ruin him
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>>581439181
Unironically you can trace the vast majority of the modern story's problems back to Alliance mains insisting that the Alliance never be allowed to do anything bad on even an individual level
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>>581439267
I wish those faggot WoW writers smoked weed and made it happen
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Crazy how they put a filler patch in the middle of a filler expansion. And now we'll get an inconsequential filler mid-patch with Kith'ix as well.
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>>581439368
theres RP, PVE and PVP realms
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I just hit 5K Timewarped Badge. Which mount should I get? I'm thinking of getting this one.
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>>581439181
>play nigger villain faction
>get mad you are always the villain
>blame alliance somehow
Lol
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>>581439295
so all 4 classes are good and i have to choose one
holy fuck man
and i also never played shaman and can't even form an opinion on the class at all
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>>581439491
The whole saga has been filler

TWW
0.5 - Filler anniversary patch
.7 - Filler Siren Isle patch
1.0 - Filler Goblin patch
1.5 - Filler patch
1.7 - Filler Arathi hugbox patch
2.0 Filler K'aresh patch
2.5 Filler Legion Remix

Midnight
0.5 Filler world activies patch
0.7 Filler Omnium folio patch
.1 Filler Troll Patch
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>>581439785
i forgive the goblin patch
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>>581439768
There will be so many pallys, I've heard rogue has not had many changes. Warrior might be the safest bet
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>>581439785
Pushing keys isn't filler bro.
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will retail even survive till tlt?
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>>581439785
i liked the filler ethereal patch.
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>>581439642
Get one that fits your mog obviously.
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>>581439917
i like it too but it was clearly rushed, should have been 2 zones with k'aresh and voidstorm
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>>581439882
retoilet has been dead for over a decade almost
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>>581439753
They're underdogs and rejects that the Alliance has wronged in the past. If humans and nelves weren't such xenophobes then blood elves and the forsaken would've joined the Alliance. You are ultimately the real villain faction.
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>>581418205
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Gender_and_sexuality
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>>581439292
I'm not starting wars, i only state the truth. But you? you remind me of Him. The teacher. But are you the teacher? I miss him dearly...
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>>581418205
Now count the rest of the NPCs and do a % and see if it compares to irl or if we need more, little one.
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>>581439785
i liked undermine i really dont get the hate for it other than it had nothing to do with the plot. at least it wasnt the invasion slop or tiny dick reused assets zones like siren isle or the legion worlds
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>Get invited to Wowowo Fowevah beta
>Download and make a Forsaken Paladin to see what all the hype is about
>Kill 5 mobs, see a spell automatically added to my hotbar upon level up
>Take a glance at chat and see nothing but spics and turks using general chat because it's 1 realm for everyone
Well Holly, Ion, Aggrend you've sold me. I'm not interested in your slop anymore.
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What Retoilet does to players
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>>581440234
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>>581440306
Surely teacher would know what a Freudian slip is. He is literally a teacher after all.
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>>581440525
>>Take a glance at chat and see nothing but spics and turks using general chat because it's 1 realm for everyone
this was such a fumble desu
you're literally locked to one faction for... ever
lol
oh whats taht? you wanted to try horde pvp?
ya buy another sub moron
the only reason they would do dumbshit like this is because they're rightfully scared of the playerbase collapsing like it has in
every
single
version
of classic
whats the best way to obfuscate the decline instead of putting out a bluepost about how you're consolidating realms because half of them died over night?
well you can't just do crossrealm because... that would be RETAIL
so......
we're going realmless!!!
fucking morons man
lmfao
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after wasting some time looking at rogue changes and other foreva stuff i might not play rogue again, nigga they hate rogue class at blizzard am telling you nigga
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>>581440786
Maybe, but you remind me too much of him. Who are you really...
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>>581440585
World of warcraft: different
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>>581440806
Also means they can't really do anything like the opening of AQ 40 again, since there will really only be 4 chances a region to experience an event like that.
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>>581440920
>hate
the game is AI generated there's no emotions involved
why did they gut unholy dk damage last patch?
you can't find a reason for it?
yeah, AI said so
see?
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I feel like I'm that person people talk about to others but not to me. Always wonder what people say about me to friends/group chats/discords.
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>>581441294
but don't you want to at least see what shit ai generated and maybe test it for a little bit
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>Sargeras' sword was inches away from the world soul
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the engine upgrades to forever make retail seem silly by comparison, why can't retail have the same technology implemented?
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>>581394924
do i go mage or priest?
either femhumie or femundead
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WoW Forever = Evercold waiting room
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>>581442058
>nightborne hunter in a onesie complaining about anything
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>>581442058
They can set a firm example by handing out lifelong bans to Gay Kitty and Asmongler.
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>>581441863
in Retail? mage seems like a safe pick

in Forever? Priest is absolute kino
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>>581442058
Sorry, no GMs. Microslop only wants to sell blue elves, not spend on stupid shit like game moderation.
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Holy fuck this game is so kino
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>>581442625
I turned down the fog because it's really overdone and it end up looking so good
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>>581441168
Oh it's -REDACTED-. I think you are seeing things friend. Maybe go to sleep.
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>>581442625
Finally. Classic fans can play a game with graphics on par with blue is better
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>>581442625
This will be wow in 2026
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>character overhauls
>world overhaul
>HD models
>Classic+
Is there anything else left for WoW?
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>>581442058
What is Grand Wizard?
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>>581442625
Didn't they say there was going to be a toggle for this shit?
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>>581442806
I feel like i know you…
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>>581442971
Yeah, a good retail expansion would be a decent overhaul. Not even gonna cope that Midnight has anything to offer anymore, next patch is recycled assets maxxed.
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>>581443453
there is

>>581443010
KKK member
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>human pally
>go safe and make human/skyborne warrior
>rogue
>roll horde and try shaman
>balance druid
I can't choose, what's the most retardproof class in classic? Should i just call it go prot/arms warrior? I'm so fucking lost since i can't just play dk
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>>581443010
>>581443515
I always thought it'd be funny if Jordan Peele did a skit where a bunch of blacks try to jump a KKK meeting only to get fucked up by actual magic
>OH SHIT DEY REALLY IZ WIZARDS
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>>581442971
Naga
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>>581443659
Pally, spec shockadin and just heal dungeons. EZ

We know pally will never be nerfed because half the devs play it
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>>581443659
I'm going orc shaman because the set looks cool and I wanna look cool, simple as. The rest will come on its own.
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>>581443659
Druid and paladin are idiot-proof because they can do all three roles
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>>581443908
>Forever is actually happening concurrently in the retail timeline but the emperor Shaohao has hidden it away with mists
Deepest lore.
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>>581443908
the fog during pvp will be kino
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>>581443993
Pandaren are basically confirmed to be playable
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>>581444004
Imagine Winter Arathi Basin with Forever lighting engine.
Goddamn.
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WOW FOREVER 永恒魔兽 login gate sealed 登录关闭 millions click button server hamster has died 仓鼠死亡 queue number reaches heaven 排队上天 Blizzard wizard says soon 暴雪说马上 heroes stare at error 英雄看错误 no adventure today
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>>581443743
In game shop race soon
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>>581444112
>they betatested Forever fog here
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>>581444280
This is actually juts low view distance.
Volumetric fog is a resource hog, which is why it's better to disable it if you run wow on 20 year old rig like the most of the playerbase.
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The Scourgestalker is the best hunter set and im tired of pretenting its not
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>>581444112
Fun fact: They datamined a winter version of WSG in Forever.
I seriously don't get why it takes meme versions of the game to actually play around with battlegrounds in a fun way, are the retail devs really that scared of upsetting the r1glad mafia?
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It's joever for fem humies, mogged by high elves, night elves, sky elves and space goats
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>>581444478
Boots?
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ahhaa hd model troon
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>>581444714
>>581444478
boots might come in remix
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By the rings!
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>>581400220
>>581402159
go back, zoomer-reddit-nigger
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>>581445189
korthiakino
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>>581445272
B B B B B BODIED THAT FREAK
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world of warcraft forever: different
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>forever fags really just looking at the scenery and saying the game is kino
Anything to distract from how its Classic for the fourth time I guess.
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>>581446029
that's how i have always played any version of worlo warcar
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>>581446029
Right now it is just wow remastered. Give it some time and a couple expansions and it might be pretty good.
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SoD 2.0: Forever Different
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>>581446029
Forever shilling will last at least next two months...
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Huge botting exploit already found using tauren/fly hacking and their new racial to be able to herb any herb regardless of level.
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I don't even play WoW but I had to blow blond seed to Whitemane just then
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>>581446863
imagine buying beta access to setup a bot jesus christ the chinese are subhuman
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>>581446863
the solution to this is simple, it involves kinetic action on the three gorges dam
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>>581435324
Need Whitemane in this artstyle...
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>>581446863
Man i fucking hate modern chinese, always cheating in every fuxking game, infesting global servers in chinese games just to cheat and shit on everything
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>>581447093
Might slop one up if I feel like it after coming back home. Remind me if there's a new thread.
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>>581446863
It took less than 12 hours for them
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>>581446863
We need a wall for the internet
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They should've made TWW content into legacy content already
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The new lighting looks kinda bad outside of the cherry picked screenshots and footage Blizzard did.
It's got that "this will be Skyrim in 2015" vibes with 4 ENB/reshades going where it's all hazy.
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>>581447390
Doesn't China have a wall that keep everything out but not in? It's like Covid where China shut down travel from Wuhan to the rest of China but not internationally. Motherfuckers know what they're doing.
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>>581447746
WoW 2 is the end
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>>581446863
fucking insectoids
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>>581398717

What an absolutely wretched and awful design.
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>>581448457
english saar
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>>581398717
this looks like a low budget wow clone
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So many decent private servers died for this shit, I really hope they deliver.
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>>581448712
They should've made their own game then
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Can you guys give me a help in sorting my pics?
I don't know in what category would most of these belong (if anywhere):

https://mega.nz/folder/fDhlSBiB#u-CqBau9wciA13LAeoWg7w
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>they abandoned retail just to make rushed classic+ with retail UI and models which is already infested with chinese bugmen
My prediction: both retail and forever are going to flop bigly because they don't focus on one product, that's how nu-blizzard just works
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>>581436093

Most of us are straight and want you to kill yourself.
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>>581448973
They keep assuring everyone that it's separate teams that don't steal each others' resources but Midnight's state makes me think that's bullshit. Though I hope they steal Metzen. Permanently.
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Wasn't metzen le orc le honor le blood and honor le war le i play human paladin let's fight orcs what happened
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>>581449241
Much like Matt and Trey of South Park fame, he had a daughter.
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>>581404508
The harbor existed with the original park in Wotlk, it's fine.
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>>581449251
i assume there's a penis on the left and penis on the right unless you have so called "adult woman fetish" with a vagina
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>>581449579
I have no idea what the full image is since it was in >>581448803 's Mega drive.
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>>581449268
Having kids in general is quite neurodegenerative due to lack of sleep. Add to that sleepless coke-fueled Cosby Suite nights and you basically end up with a brain smooth enough to add blue elves instead of helfs and belfs.
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>>581449681
>Having kids in general is quite neurodegenerative due to lack of sleep

As someone with three kids, it doesn't have to be. But it often turns out that way.
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>>581449072
Max already confirmed that retail's main raid encounters designer created the new Forever raids. Furthermore, the lead artist, Angie, stated she worked on many of the models, and David Arkenstone confirmed that he and other retail composers produced the music. The list goes on. The point is, Forever is clearly stealing resources from retail.
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>>581449072
It's forked from Midnight and I am 100% sure the water and lighting stuff will be in 13.0.
They are doing what those in the business call "blatantly lying to the players".
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>>581448712
>deliver
are you crazy? it's going to be putrid dogshit just like retail, it already is, look at their changes
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Where do you look for crafters to make your shit these days? /2 is spammed to death by [Pay in Raid] retards.
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>run 2 dungeons
>almost completely decked out in blues
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>>581450421
Didn't they say that they've changed all dungeon drops to being blue now? I don't know why, but I feel like I remember them saying that during Blizzcon.
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>Memory leaks
>Power creep from lvl 10
>Mages completely bricked
>Paladins 2 shot everything
>120 GB storage
>already store mounts and spectral mounts in the game
>already transmog sets in the game
>retail ui
>retail frames
>retail animations
>retail character skeletons
>millions paid $80 to join in beta around the world and it doesn’t work outside the US
>orc mages
>undead pallys
>gnome priests
>new air bender cloud elves cross faction race that Aggrend pulled out of his ass never mentioned in Warcraft lore before
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>they announce tlt, show trailer and new features
>but almost every new feature is just shit from worlo forever
>all this under the sauce how they solve this uuuh big annoying "thing" for the players wuweee so exciting
i already can see it
then tlt and forever flops because they forgot you need to constantly update and add new content to the game
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>>581449681
It's really about men with 4-13yo daughters.
Under 4 they're too googoogaga, over 13 they start to backtalk and seek guys to fuck.
So these dads then feel like the whole world needs to bend over before their little princess as they treat them as a replacement for their bitch wife while dreading the day she will inevitably hop on the cock carousel.
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>>581450523
Quinoa...
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>>581449625
Wait, that was on my drive? Huh, didn't even realise that.
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>>581450525
Yeah.

>>581450710
>why is beta not perfectly balanced and polished aieeeeeeeeeee
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>>581450838
>Why haven't they realised what obvious issues are going to arise with their fourth version of a thing they've released before and insisted charging for
No, at this point, valid question.
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>>581450758
Sorry, I wouldn't know, I don't jerk off to incest cuck porn.
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>>581450838
>20 years later and they still can't get it
How other games do it?
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>>581451008
Tbh this is the first time they made realmless wow and implemented these graphical features.
Rest is nagging for sake of nagging - like the UI, just use an addon if you need to have these tiny pixelated outdated textures stretched over your QHD screen.
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>>581451296
>>581451296
>>581451296
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>>581398293
Post more
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>>581404297
You can sense the castrated millennial
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>>581442058
based on all counts, what is there to clean up



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