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PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE edition

>Useful Links
https://www.wowhead.com/
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https://bad-dragon.com/
https://murlok.io/
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>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)
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<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>

Timewalking: >>581821074
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>>581906560
>PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
Never ever
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More game-coded than skelves could ever hope to be.
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gay op
go play atlyss faggot
>>581905582
k, need a sick bdk transmog to fit the axe
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>Gay human they play dress up with
Go play FFXIV
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>>581906874
Lucky fag I got the shitty belt
Pug?
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>>581906997
you know it brotha
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>>581906874
What's your problem man? You're always so grumpy and hostile. Chill.
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>>581906874
>even the gear is mazed
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>>581907057
Wait you're playing uh?
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>>581907369
hahaha
no i'm playing 2h frost lmfao
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>>581905582
mythic right?
any tips?
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>blizzard psyop reddit into hating retail player so it would be easier to abandon retail after TLT

how does it feel to just lose everything you've spend your money and time on for decades?
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>>581907505
Should have rolled frost for that sweet 1h cantrip
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>>581907505
Are you using the same build ss dw?
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>>581907529
>blizzard psyop reddit into hating retail player

it's not hard when they act like schizo spurned lovers about Forever
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>>581906560
<BLT>-Illidan is recruiting players interested in mythic raiding! Mainly healers and dps. We are 8/8H 1/8M with explorers at 20%! Please add @froo on discord if you're interested -w-
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>>581908097
Can I join your heroic raids?
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>>581907791
i thought about it because i'm going to have to raid for prob 2 months to get all my shit but i'd rather be able to play bdk in keys, i lucked into a heroic guillotine technique with the timewalking quest
>>581907982
i am using the season 1 2h build
CsPAkXBWxkyfx9CbGaHonEAhLNDYmZMjxMDz2MzMzMbmZ0MjxYYGGMzMzMzMzMDAAAAAAAAAjZbgBsAWGmQGLYmxMzADADzMAAD
which to my knowledge only has one talent change vs the dual wield build from eyeballing it
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>>581908403
I guess it make sense if you're running blood for keys and you got guillotine but I thought it was meh for m+
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>WoW forever will get worgen paladins before retail
retail is FINISHED
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>>581909006
Vulpera monk used fists of fury
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haha midnight bros! are we dabbing on the forever chudcels?
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does Retail have any devs like this or do ours just change stuff out of spite
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>>581909425
still pvmping to sweetie fox btw
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>i must apologize for the shitty gear
>we have purposely stat'd it wrong, as a joke
Midnight Season 2
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>>581906560
Nobody even raids big cities anymore. Killing Horde v.s. Alliance was so so bad for this game.
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>>581909843
why do you want to kill afk people
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>>581909843
for the azeroth and all that
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>>581909843
the game can barely hold people 5 people grouped together
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would be cool to get this kinda shit in Retail and not just in Forever. I really like the class specific flavour stuff
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>>581909425
Someone randomly inserting secrets into the game that can go as far as an entire mini zone and unique mobs that only a small amount of the playerbase are gonna put the effort in to see (before they randomly reuse it for other dumb shit)?

No, they've never done that.
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>>581910474
that's from sod thoughever
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>>581910549
looks kino, what is this?
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-information-xbox-to-cut-hundreds-of-jobs-consolidate-game-studios.1639576/post-160868569

>Xbox consolidating game studios
>Halo will be under ABK


Fuck we don't even get the good devs
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>>581910805
A long line of a series events tied to Uuna, a Ghost Draenei kid you can get as a companion.

Honestly quite the experience for not being a questline, it was pretty damn fun to do. And yeah, the zone it takes you to has been reused since in worse ways, but it was very atmospheric and awesome at the time.
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DIE RETOILET DIE
DIE RETOILET DIE
DIE RETOILET DIE
DIE RETOILET DIE
YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED
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Is Blitz rating still super inflated? I've ran out of things to do and I sorta want every single old school PvP set for nostalgia purposes
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>Announce a big new retirement home for the Classic uncs that's supposed to last forever
>Days later a jeeta announces she's cutting funding across the board
>Retirement home is forced to close down because the staff need to be moved onto higher value projects like Retail and Diablo 5
Pretty sad tbqh. Well the elderly at least got to enjoy their week in the gardens.
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>>581911559
>higher value projects like Retail
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>>581911559
? wow forever didn't get cut
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>>581909425
I wish retail devs had this much passion
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>>581911845
>>581911851
You think if retail suffers a bunch of layoffs, they won't move all the devs currently bailing Aggrend out back to retail? You should be worried. Aggrend probably has 1 year of content at most once the layoffs hit.
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>>581911870
they have that passion when kill off male characters and create new girlbosses and gays.
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>>581911559
>higher value projects like Retail

kek
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>>581911964
they recently moved devs to wow forever, and the creative team of retail has talked about copying classics world and systems.


they are going to cut retail, writing is on the wall.
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>>581911983
I hope Turaylon and Arator die anyway. I'll fuck Alleria over their gravestone
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>>581912068
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>>581912068
>>581912117
And when those cuts begin, they'll move the devs back to retail. That's how business works. You prioritize the product that has an upcoming release, Retail has an upcoming expansion, once Forever launches in November, it's got nothing but future EoS planned
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>>581912068
All they had to do is not make retail this fucking gay.
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>>581912184
is this cope? retail's engagement and metrics are in the fucking gutter, you'd be lucky to get a maintance mode.
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>>581912274
Clock's ticking Aggrend. Best find your new excuses when the jeeta comes
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Retail and Forever are on the same sub. If one goes away, so does the other. The only wow that would actually be at risk is MoP/WoD Classic.
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>>581912184
>Cuts are happening now
>Forever releases in 2 months
>The Last Expansion releases next year

lemme get this straight anon, if you were in charge you'd move the Forever devs, who release their game soon over to Retail so they can shit out another invasion patch next year for the game that is currently so boring that they forgot to show anything at Blizzcon.
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>>581912504
>they forgot to show anything at Blizzcon.

kek hearthstone had a bigger presence
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>>581912504
that was blizzcon? felt more like wow forever con
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>>581912504
Yes you seem to not understand how Blizzard has worked and especially how Microsoft works. Forever is already in Beta. As far as Microsoft would be concerned the game's golden and ready to ship, that's when you start moving devs back to other projects to make sure their next big upcoming release which on the schedule is now Last Titan gets all the attention.
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>>581912068
yeah they're gonna stop developing the ultra-money printer cash cow product

do you people even think before you type this inane niggerbabble out
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>>581912504
a reminder that Retail WoW was the only panel at Blizzcon that got audible boos from the audience
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>>581912691
>they merged all their metrics
>this was in no way to hide the decline of retail

classic is the only thing keeping you on life support, a classic that gets new content is them pulling the plug.
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>>581912686
I don't think you understand how game development works, they will be working up on Forever up until release and even then it'll be a buggy mess that will need to be worked on.
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>>581912789
With a smaller team to push it through the door. The bulk will go back to retail. This happened in the past with Overwatch
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>>581912838
oh so you mean the retail devs that were helping Forever with launch will go back to Retail and then get laid off

oh now, how will forever survive???

retard
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>>581912780
>t-they hid the metrics t-thats all
>nobody plays it a-and its actually a total loss of money!!
grown ass man getting this desperate and tribal over different versions of a videogame in said videogame's general

just hang yourself bro this is shameful
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>>581912905
Not at all because Aggrend and his team can't make content for shit lmao. And they certainly won't put the returning bulk back onto Forever when they've got other shit to prioritize.
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>we even lost the annoying furry ritual posters to the forever general

wtf
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op is a faggot furry retard
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>>581913226
Naturally the attention seeking faggots flock over to larger audience.
Now under the guise of "please please can we have this in Forever" only to spam furfag slop.
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This game is so fucking dead taking 5 minutes as dps for coren jesus
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>Forever is priority for Blizzard
>suddenly resident "posters" start shilling for Forever

Dead internet theory is real. Most of "people" here are fucking bots.
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>>581909006
I have a lead on you know who. The hours match up and they are in the community. They also used a toy that puts a "gold star" on someone. Coincidence? Idk that toy wasn't in the game until coiled isle was released.

It's not much and it wasn't the same avatar. I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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>>581913453
That's the effect of limiting the mount drops to one daily chance per account.
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>thread is this dead mid patch
>forever isnt even out yet
next few months are gonna be brutal bros
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why would you hire some unknown indian female as ceo
screech about ai
then basically force devs to announce shit to not get fired
then fire them and shut down everything
and then you lose money anyway and fire that indian jeetato hire another indian
is this how mass psychosis looks like
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Just for the Haranir zone as my first new levelling zones since hating the Shadowlands and BfA (Alliance) zones and really enjoyed it. It was beautiful and the stories were straightforward and interesting to follow. I'm not so sure about the light being something that can send people berserk and infect creatures/zones though, it suggests that the big bad void are actually good and natural and something we just need to learn to live with in balance and harmony.
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>>581914218
First time seeing the Indian Caste system in work?
This is what always happens when an Indian crawls to the top of any company or political party. They hire fellow Indians and keep making the jobs of the white people harder until they can excuse firing the white people and hire more Indians.
Your unironic best bet for the future is hoping you're white enough for a jeeta girl to fancy you and marry her so you can be set for life.
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>>581914218
Have you been hibernated for past 10 or so years?
This is literally how they operate, always at all times.
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>>581913568
What the hell does this random reply mean, the what the who now...?
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I just logged onto my prot paladin for the first time in forever, am I seeing things or does Sentinel not reduce the dps of avenging wrath anymore?
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>>581914109
It was an easy patch that everyone managed to do what they wanted within the first three weeks. This isn't surprising.
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>>581914503
Oh right, yeah haha. I don't know either I was have a momentary bout of insanity.
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>>581914109
things will pick up when we get that roguelike that everyone got bored of halfway through the announcement

or the next patch where we get an invasion and some catch up equipment

or 12.2 where we get some dogshit story with a pity party for xally

or wrath remix

the next year actually looks pretty depressing for Retail
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>>581914878
Seems like you thought i was someone else. Maybe i know him too.
I suppose you should discuss it privately with your investigator on discord and he'll help you with this 'you know who'.
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if they axe retail im gonna really miss a lot of the class and spec design, nothing else really compares.
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This is the biggest cesspool of degenerates I've ever seen.
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>>581915198
they're not going to axe retail retard
stop posting the same shit every single day
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>>581915198
they'll never fully axe retail, lotro gets updates ffs

I think if Forever catches on and is popular you're just gonna get less frequent expansions.
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>>581915198
Forever won't last the year, horizontal progression is a meme. Player fall off will be around 70%. Nobody is logging back on for 2% more main stat and a cantrip trinket that makes them run faster in volcanic regions
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imagine being so scared of forever lmao
imagine not playing forever
imagine choosing to not have fun
all because you're fucked in the head kek
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>>581915538
>>581915421
>>581915385

"guys I'm telling you forever is just a hype train that will get derailed and forgotten in a year" - the furry uttered anxiously as his palms got sweaty from the insurmountable rage he felt inside
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>>581915538
Make that "walk on lava".
Also make housing on Forever, but make it like Black Desert where you rent an existing house in a city.
Where then I can have a dresser with different drawers.
Such as trinket drawer where I reach for when I'm about to embark to volcanic region with the said trinket.
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>>581915820
Bro they literally circled Gilneas when talking about future content.
The knot is coming and you cannot stop it.
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>>581915910
"an imaginary scenario in my head confirms forever is dead on arrival"

The jokes write themselves lmao
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bro is going to be raidlogging after week 1 lmao
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retail uncs are all luddites
afraid of the forward march of technology
go cry some more about $30 elves
after you spent $400 on a crt monitor you barely use lol
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>>581916114
love not being able to see anything
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#fixrogue
#dicksoutforrogue
#freemyniggarogue
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>>581915820
those posts didnt say that
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>>581915878
Player Housing should be guild halls with only the biggest guilds being able to afford the upkeep cost in major cities.
The moment you walk into Stormwind you should know who the top dogs of the server are and which guilds you should aspire to prove worthy of joining.
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>>581906560
love wowg anons!!!
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>>581916362
I started in Legion so i missed the boat completely when it came to Servers/Guilds. I always thought Guilds would be WAY more important but by the time I started no one really cared about their reputation/status
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leveling is so meaningless in retail it's actually sad
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>>581916960
if the devs hate leveling so much they should just force you to do 10 levels to understand your class and then shoot you into endgame. Right now it's just 6 hours of menial labor and then hating yourself through midnight campaign before you get to the meat
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This will be Classic+ in the year 2026
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>>581916960
>>581917258
>level 100+ hours in vanilla
>people reach max
>still no clue how to play their 1 button class
leveling could take 1 year or 10 minutes and nothing would change
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>>581917343
Holly does it again
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>>581917343
>dranny

i wish
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>>581917459
>didn't mention classic
>retailsissy has it on his mind 24/7

Forever has mind broken you man, just let it go
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>>581917625
2nd post literally mentions
>10 levels to understand your class
which is why i said leveling takes ages in vanilla and people still don't know how to play their class
kys
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>>581911480
>>581911480
>>581911480
>>581911480
>>581911480
>>581911480
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>>581918076
No one here pvps
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What happens when all the Classic uncs discover all the "retail" homoshit in new Forever content?
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>>581918232
idk
what happens when tlt's final patch nukes retoilet lmao
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>>581918108
Why not?
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>we shouldn't make leveling fun and meaningful because there are bad players at max level lol

what kind of retard logic is this
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>>581918373
Then we all go to your boss's thread and shit it up like you're shitting up ours, you brown shiteater.
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>>581917459
yet so many in retail cant play, they need one button rotation.
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>>581916362
>top dogs of the server
Well, I was talking Forever, since retail housing is now solved and Forever has no servers.
Guild halls would be great as well, but my point was to have a compromise between bank and managing these hoards of *horizontal progression* items, all while allowing some more personal way to store these items.
Because on retail, you just put on your BiS and that's that, toss away the old (they made sure you will not use old items in timewalking either) and get ready to replace it in the next patch.
In Forever, you would actually use mannequins and jewelry boxes and whatnot.
But keep it in the city.
Think of all these inaccessible doors or pointless shops in Stormwind or Ironforge - these could all be clickable, teleporting you to your instanced home and people would be constantly about.
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WoW has never been as good before or after legion (except maybe WoD). I'm gonna download Tauri, get every class to max, do every order hall, get cool transmogs on all of them, get loremaster and then I'm done with WoW for good I think, you might say forever.
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>>581918701
wow so making leveling a slog again doesn't change shit, shocker
just walk backwards if you want it to take longer
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>>581918701
That changes nothing. There's no "learning a class with slow as shit levelling"
That never happens because nothing challenges you as a player of that class. Everything is generic so you just hammer through quests and levelling.

Very few quests, if any, test you based on your class abilities.
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Genuinely just feels like bots arguing with each other at this point
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Li Li
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>>581919968
Built for Tauren men
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>>581919271
Unless you play Warrior figuring out how to use Sweeping Strikes effectively. This act already puts you in the upper elite in class understanding.
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looks like they will be disabling flying in the last titan
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>complete all 12s at +2
>still not 3k
Well fuck you too shitzzard
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in the end... relictor won
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More Ula'tek news. Not enough hamsters making it on the HoF wheel.
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>95% of prot warriors are thane
>they buff it
Why do these retailtroons hate colossus so much?
It's only been good for one season, that is S2 of TWW and that's that.
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>>581921624
It has to be the worst raid ever created
t. walled by mythic twin fags
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>>581921945
Casting shit feels like ass
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>>581922321
I personally don't mind the casting, I just think the animation could use some tuning as it is clearly made with 2hander in mind.
And ofc some better numbers - you are often rage starved compared to thane, who just generates rage with all his attacks, so he can burn it all on ignore pains.
The extra healing from Demolish doesn't seem to compensate for it especially when it's on a fairly long cooldown.
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>>581922024
I'm on mythic TFags as well. 12% best pull, killing it next reset's first raid day I hope.
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You will be stuck in Ulatek and you will hate the game.
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>>581922825
I was already hating it on mythic L'ura last season, how much worse could it be?
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Holy fuck why everything sucks since shadowland MAKE IT GOOD PLEASE MAKE IT MID AT LEAST I'M BEGGING YOU I WANT TO PLAY WORLO WARCRAFT
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>>581923045
On lura you had the added benefit that a pull lasted less than a minute and the fight got easier. On ulakek you will wipe at the last second over and over meaning progression will be faster
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>try to give retoilet a chance and buy midnight
>take it slow and try to immerse myself, take in the environment and do side quests, dungeons as they make sense and delves
>by the time I encounter the Amani I am already level 88 and outlevel the campaign by 83
why even bother having leveling in the first place if you design it like this
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all of this tech and shit, but is wow forever still cpu bound like retail?
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>play zul'aman campaign
>zul'jan attacks the elves lumber camp
>zul'jan attacks the twilights hammer because they invaded his lumber camp
this nigga on wc3 timing
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>>581923753
They increased level gains since launch because people weren't pleased with the pace. I did most main and side quests before hitting max on launch.
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>>581923835
Forever runs worse than retail for me
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>>581923753
>muh do all sidequest and I'm "suddenly" overleveled
that's literally all games of all time
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>>581923857
I see, so once again player requests turn everything to half-baked shit. This will happen to Forever btw
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>>581923943
sorry but no one wants to do that story more than once for every alt
its still too slow btw
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>>581924024
Well yeah I'm not speaking of alts obviously
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>>581923943
They've always done this, dumdum.
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>main Pres Evoker
>the tier set is completely designed for M+
>you need to use the ability that shoots you forward into mechanics and kills you
>cherry on top: the talent that gives you 2 charges is optimal obviously

You can see Blizzard's entire attitude and design philosophy in this spec. Basically they want risk/reward gameplay and they want you to be punished for making rotational mistakes and when I say punished i mean they want you fucking dead, Chud.
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i asked grok what the best classes would be for each race based on lore and it said pandaren should be demon hunters
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>>581923896
Forever has an FPS bug right now. I've seen it criticized in feedback in 2 different videos now and one of the videos was based af, thats the type of feedback Blizz will actually listen to, purely technical and objective, like critiquing the UI and graphics, etc, etc.
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What is Ion thinking right now?
Why did Holly decide to drop a nuke on retail wow at its lowest moment?
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>>581924284
Yeah I had my guild presvoker die on HC Ulatek repeatedly to verdant embrace in last phase. Thing is it doesn't always fling you when you think it would, the range is fucking weird sometimes.
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>>581907101
Ourguy would never sperg out that hard over a tier 11 delve
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>>581924716
Yeah it has to be the most clunky ability they've ever designed and it isn't even because it can kill you. Dream Breath has the same design problem, the wind up is too long, the flight speed is too slow, everything about it is bad. Uppies for Priests is basically the same, it's shit to use even if it doesn't kill you right away.
That's Blizzard's fuck you design showing.
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>>581924830
Dream Flight*
They even force Dev to use Deep Breath and yes that has also gotten me killed in the raid.
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>>581924470
/console giquality 3
which is the default one
/console giquality 1
tripled my fps
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>>581924979
In the feedback I saw, it's like a memory leak type thing, it starts happening after you've been playing for like 40 minutes, that's what they said. I don't even have Forever beta, I'm just gonna wait the 1 month out.
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>>581924438
Grok is right.
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Looking for a guild, my only requirements are:
>must not be racist
>Must either be furries or like furries
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>>581924438
Tbh all the Sha shit and harmony and this and that makes them good Demon Hunter candidates. They're one of the few races in the game who's entire "purpose" revolves around vanquishing bad energy. The other races are conquerors, protectors, wardens, magic craving, etc, etc.
Lightforged should be Demon Hunters also.
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FOREVER HYPE

GOODBYE ALL OF RETAIL
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>>581925715
Globofomo. Well we do be racist, but only if you are brown. You aren't brown are you?
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>>581925830
>Blind romanian space goat with hoofs and big ass glaives doing spastic flips
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>>581925849
Horrible mog
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>>581926063
I don't want to associate with racists
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>>581926530
Where do you think you are right now?
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>>581926804
not everyone on this site is racist
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>>581926927
Good one. I was convinced until you said that.
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>>581926927
>not everyone on this site is racist
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>>581926530
As a brown Mexoid in the guild, globofomo really isnt all that bad with the racism. Its just a few jokes here and there for the giggles. We really don't care where people are from.
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>>581926927
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>>581915198
>every class being a builder/spender minigame with procs
wow super epic and never before seen
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which class will make me feel the most like goku?
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Jason Schreier: Yes, the Blizzard layoffs are coming and imminent—I don't think this [the announcement flurry at BlizzCon] was because of that...the layoffs started in July, people found out about them in June, and all of this BlizzCon stuff was planned out way before that.

THANK YOU POOJEETA, LESS WOKE TRANNIES THE BETTER
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>>581928942
perfect timing for them to remake wow. hopefully they stay gone.
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>>581928728
btw we pruned useless buttons and made cool class design with epic class fantasy haha
>add haste talent in sub talent tree
>fuck everything up
>you now have 5 macro buttons to keep uptime on dance
oh and here's paladin buff have fun pink heroes of azeroth
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>>581928783
DB Goku is WW monk. DBZ Goku is arcane mage.
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hopefully they will make leveling take 100 hours in the last titan
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>>581928783
maghar monk with undermine set
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>>581915198
Going to be honest I really hate how most classes and specs feel in midnight.
I think MOP was my favorite class design for every class.
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hopefully they will make leveling take 1000 hours in the last titan
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When is Sylvanas coming back? I'm already bored. I want to see my undead futa banshee mommy.
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>500 dollar exit scam
I seriously hope none of you guys fall for this
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R8 my priest
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>>581930434
your anathema?
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>>581930064
It's a booster honeypot.
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>>581930064
I don't have to fall for it, I've had the gold for it for fucking years.
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>>581929449
>hopefully they will kill the game
?
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>>581927583
"Ey ese! As a beaner I'm okay with people making fun of my subrace! It's not like I want my wife to get fucked by a white guy or nothin'!"
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So you're telling me all the hyper-monetization of the game the past 3 years was for nothing?
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>>581929449
I would take that if it meant that every alt leveled after that, takes 5 hours instead
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>>581923932
Except for based vanilla wow where you do all the sidequests and still have to grind in that naga cave for 2 whole levels.
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>>581926484
Jealous, much?
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MASS LAYOFFS
PROJECTS CLOSING
MORALE TANKING

THE END OF WORLO
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WITHIN JUST A FEW HOURS
POSSIBLY IN THE NEXT 20 MINUTES
THE GUTTING OF BLIZZARD

IRREVERSIBLE
UNDENIABLE
INDOMITABLE

THE END OF BLIZZARD
THE END OF WORLO
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>>581934396
I can see why you would take that but na, every character should be the same
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>>581929449
Ironically this is why OSRS's "horizontal" progression works: it's actually vertical until endgame just like WoW, it just takes literally thousands upon thousands of hours to reach endgame. This isn't going to work for Forever when it takes like than 200 hours to reach endgame.
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>>581935574
good riddance
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>classic and retail wow lags with 40vs40 world pvp
>forever can support more than 80+ players on the same screen and doesn't lag at all
Yeah retail is getting replaced
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I wonder why Jaina got the "daughter of the seas" song when she should've been given a piece like "daughter of the anal" or "daughter of the futa" or "daughter of being orced and dragoned"
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>>581936302
they're already talking about wanting to bring housing to classic. those who cope that the 2 games can coexist are just in denial
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>>581936302
You're going to get replies that it lags in Classic despite the fact that you've literally seen it does not. It's probably all fucked for the same reason that it takes like 1.5 seconds to log into Classic after hitting Enter World and it takes like 5 seconds on retail
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>stacking sabers and owls in your stable as a night elf
>beastmaster dire beast specc
>maul hordelets with your animals
honestly pure sovl. if only the stampede didn't spawn random fucking animals like monkeys, bears and wyvern
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still haven't decided on what to play and if i want to play on taurie
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i dont think im gonna make the 1% mount bros...
retail is poopy shart...
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>>581936012
yeah OSRS being horizontal is a fucking meme. there is best-in-slot gear for every situation, the limit to getting shit like a scythe is that it costs like $2000 in tokens
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let's be honest, other than m+, what does retail have over forever?
>graphics: forever wins
>lore: forever wins
>gameplay: forever has the edge but they're close
>server performance: forever wins
>hype: forever wins
like, it's not even close
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>>581938202
Void elf feet
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>>581938593
sky elves are superior to void elves: they have more customization and better lore
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>only people left posting in wowg are furries
knew it lmao
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>>581938202
my mountmogcheevos
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>>581924284
pres is gay and u get what you fucking deserve but i recently found this "reckless abandon" potion, i believe its new this patch, it drops a void zone under your feet that silences you for a marginal gain on your main stat vs light's potential
i used it on a few pulls and i decided that i would very much like to break the fingers of whoever cooked that up
i would like to do the same to the "person" that put the 50% increased mana cost on holy light for the 4set
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>>581938762
i'm trying to keep the general alive, but you don't even have enough people to doompost anymore.
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>>581938695
But do they have Xal'atath?
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>>581938992
anon, that's not a plus...
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It really fills me with uncontrollable rage that Retail still doesn't have High Elves for Alliance and Ogres for Horde when those two fucking races show up in every quest as part of their factions.

Forever had the prefect opportunity to rectify that but nooooo nobody would play horde if it wasn't for... sky elves?
So stupid.
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/control-resonant-gears-of-war-e-day-geforce-game-ready-driver/

>Aion 2 gets DLSS 4.5, worlo layoffs still stuck on outdated, obsolete fsr1 that doesn't even work broken since trannyflight 10.2

GRIM
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Good luck with this week's vault, my friends!
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>>581939164
I really don't care
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>>581937869
big quitter energy
its a marathon, not a race
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>>581938202
>>graphics: forever wins
lol
>>lore: forever wins
lmao
>>gameplay: forever has the edge but they're close
rofl
thats 3 strikes so I didnt read the rest
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>>581938202
>>graphics: forever wins
are for midwits, and they look shit honestly, night time is ok, but the fog is actually awful and makes it look like you're walking through a fart cloud constantly
>>lore: forever wins
the only people that care about lore in a video game are people that have never picked up a book in their entire lives and you shouldn't be allowed to hold an opinion on anything in the first place
>>gameplay: forever has the edge but they're close
you have lost your fucking mind
classic gameplay is the most boring shit on the fucking planet
>>hype: forever wins
only brown zoomer streamer orbiters give a shit about that
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>Xbox is looking to consolidate several studios, with separate reports and industry claims bringing Halo and Blizzard into the conversation, though those specific studio changes haven’t been officially confirmed.
HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA! You dumb trannies thought MS was gutting blizzard instead they are going to give them halo.
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>>581937680
Come join me brother, I'm levelling a Panda rogue. 2x xp while levelling too
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>>581938202
Not a lot, but classic has shit gameplay so that'll always put me against it. I want to actually feel like I'm mastering a spec and not just spamming one spell over and over.
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SERVER SHUTDOWN

DEAD GAME
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>it's not retail 2.0
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>>581940720
heh
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>>581939945
>>581939809
>>581940424
Forever has a better structured gameplay:
>leveling matters
>classes feel unique
>gear matters
>raids and dungeons don't really get obsolete after a single patch
>exploration matters
>being social matters
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>>581941045
looks like the classicbabs can go back to vanilla if they don't like it
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>>581940720
but muh cheevos and mounts and mogs on 1.0
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>>581940720
am i just crazy if i think that forever is meant to slowly replace retail? the name, marketing, the features and the qol from retail all scream: "this is the definitive version of wow!"
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>>581938202
Retail has Arator and Jimothy.
Forever has.....?
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I think most retail players can read the writing on the wall. We're going to slowly be phased as out as Forever becomes the "prime" timeline and they just wipe away all the lore fuck ups from retail. Eventually we'll disappear entirely with some "final" patch that fully explains how everything that went down in retail was actually a worst case scenario caused by the Infinite Jailer or whatever and our servers will get shut down. It's... it's over.
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>>581941504
it aint replacing shit until they port all the mounts mogs and cheevos with updated graphics
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>>581941504
Everyone feels this way because instead of having an equally strong presence at Blizzcon the retail team has been talking about retail like it's being worked on by a skeleton crew in maintenance crew and every remotely exciting idea gets a mumbled "oh uh we'd love to do it um no resources though maybe after the saga" so they're already telling you to not get excited for the supposed epic conclusion of this trilogy
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>>581941504
No that is the sane reading of the situation.

Retail will get its last hurrah in TLT before becoming a museum. Forever will be the definitive way to play WoW in 5 years. Not a doomjeet. Just being real
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it's over....retail finally shut down....
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>>581940720
>>581941145
kek you really set them off, they started the concershitposting immediately
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should I buy forever?
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>>581941664
12.1 literally just fucking came out and it already feels like it's been months, we absolutely are on maintenance mode with a skeleton crew already
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>>581941640
I think Blizzard did some math and reached the conclusion that losing the addicts is a risk worth taking if forever has a chance to be more successful than retail.
>>581941664
i mean yeah. it's even more baffling when you see retail devs admit they were working on forever while retail was struggling with low effort, buggy patches
>>581941749
it won't need 5 years. if the last titan doesn't end up being mindblowing then retail has already lost the war
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Another easy win for Ion.
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I want a Kalimdor update, let me see what my favorite trash mobs are up to!
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>>581942294
harpy wife
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https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/09/22/continuing-our-reset/

THE END HAS COME
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>>581942294
harpies might exist just because of avianna coming back during cata, the horde genocided the rest
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>>581942294
satyr husband
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>>581942156
How does this schemey rat keep getting away with it
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>>581942418
>Matt Booty
LMAO
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>>581942539
>4chan trannies spent years bitching about muh ion
>wow is the greatest ms money machine
It's very simple, results=power.
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>>581942418
Yeah, to Halo thank fucking god.
That many chances and they couldn't even copy their homework right. They fucked up so much ACTIVISION is going to work on Halo now.
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>>581942294
>Tauren - Cow People
>Centaur - Horse People
>Quilboar - Pig People
>Satyr - Goat People
>Harpy - Chicken People
Kalimdor is just a great big farm!
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>>581942715
lol
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>>581942418
There just is an upper limit to how many people you can employ to work on a video game before it just turns to shit. The original halo was like 50 guy for $40 million and the newest one was like 2,100 people and $500 million and it was just a far worse game in every respect outside of graphics that lacked any soul.
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>>581942715
They should add a Vulpera City in Kalimdor then
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>>581942992
For years people scoffed at how little Japanese game devs seemed to get paid compared to American devs and acted like they were slave labor by comparison, it's become obvious now that the cost of living disaster in America has made American game dev untenable, at least in the popular coastal cities
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>>581942120
delusional
blizzard didnt even think it would be popular
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>>581942539
How indeed
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Personally I have no patience for the whole philosophy of 'lets purposefully make it look old and crap because people associate the game looking old and crap with it being good'
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>>581943668
and yet, it ended up being way more popular than retail.
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>>581943854
This, we should just use DLSS 5 to make everything look ultra realistic, that's what makes a game good.
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>>581939659
there is literally going to be nobody left once forever drops the log
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I wonder if Xalatath will be the first ever horny futa void titan in the whole Warcraft lore!
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>>581944090
for a month then they are going to get bored and buy 20s boosties for the mount
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343/HALO GOT GUTTED, REST IN PISS IN PISS
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>>581944502
Blizzard next January
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>>581944958
this time for real lil bro
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>>581943668
>t-they didn't think it would be popular
>devote all of Blizzcon to it while retail is less than an afterthought
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>>581936820
For me it's playing Zandalari hunter and having a billion dinos in my stable
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>>581945168
I will play a zandalari hunter and I will finally be able to tame the undead monkey in the new delve
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How did all the human women in Stormwind not throw themselves into the harbor with anchors attached to them when they saw these alien beauties enter the city?
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>>581946272
they cant breed draenei
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>>581946272
>no feet
female draenei are and will always be trash tier
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holy fuck retail models and animations are so fucking bad lmao
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>>581946272
why would they? they know their men cant score
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This Sunday!
Fight night!
Be there!

(1v1 duels, cash-gold prizes to be won)
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>>581946896
kys faggot
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>>581946896
wat time
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Why doesn't Blizzard just go with this artstyle instead of the pozzed one they have now?
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ITS VAULT DAY
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>>581944090
delusional and if that was the case you're throwing an ez mount by not mazing up till nov 4th anyways
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happy reset everyone

post vaults
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>>581947093
Woah I can't wait to pick another reroll token just like last week and the week before and the week before that. Retard
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>>581947093
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>>581947248
>>581947360
I GOT THE HEART OF ULATEK
GG EZ
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OOOH OOOH OOOH
QUESTION FAGGOTS

ok so theres like literally no reason not to take these if this is the last item i need for main spec off ulasnek right?
was kind of hoping this would happen because when i go back through for off specs i can get a second pair of pants so i don't have to re leg enchant everytime i want to play ret/prot
AND i don't need to raid on this char this week
we call that a win/win/win right?
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>>581947049
5pm CST
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>>581947093
Oh it's "get punished for playing something else last week ( you know what i was doing) and be permanently behind" day

Holy shit this game not only doesn't respect my time, it literally spits on it. Vault is pure gacha engagementslop. And now what little character was there in picking items is gone because the "correct choice" is reroll. Good riddance
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>>581947503
>gets it again when he rolls on it
ruh roh
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>>581947759
then I'm not going to roll ulatek lol I have the neck and heroic legs plus we are getting extra rolls in 13 days
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guys, is this dagger any good?
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>open vault
>turned into a vupera
>take bonus roll
it is what it is
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>wowhead caused a shitstorm by alleging that experience to level 1-60 in Forever was reduced compared to Classic
>which prompted Blizzard themselves to reach out and tell them no that's no true stop being a retard #nochanges
holy kek
this website is such a complete failure
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>>581948361
to be fair it was in the game files
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Do you guys have a character of each race? I wanna do that but ughhhh i don't want to repeat so many classes
I won't touch allied shit i guess.
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>>581948267
rape
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>>581948267
/pet
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>>581948430
Nah even in the apology they couldn't help but lie. It's not a "different unused file with a different table," they just asked AI and it spat out the legion-era 1-60 leveling table as the "original values" and didn't bother validating before rushing to write an article about it.
The supposed "reduced values" in the article are the exact same as they were in niller.
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>>581948764
I’m slowly working towards having one character for each spec
but some races I have no interest in (Kul Tirans eugh) and aren’t making
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Was Dragonflight the best WoW had ever been?
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>>581946272
they were busy throwing themselves at said alien beauties (on account of the giant futa cocks) instead
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>>581949732
I can already hear the legionbabs who only played the game for 3 months during the final patch coming to correct the record.
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>>581949732
That would've been Mists of Pandaria (2012-2014)
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>>581949732
Probably. TWW was good too. I'm not sure exactly why midSHITE blows so hard
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>>581915820
>Thinks Forever will affect retail population by a lot
>Already disproven, the only thing that's died in population was other classic servers
Kek.
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>>581949732
Dragonflight was really fucking gay, but gameplay wise I had fun. Its just been a trend of dragonflight but worse since then.
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>>581950649
I didn't super love TWW. I think I was tired of dwarves and spiders and karesh.
>>581950715
Yes it was gay as fuck storytelling-wise. I meant gameplay; the gameplay was excellent
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>>581950410
My home and starting point. Can't believe I'm a mistbaby and can be considered an old cunt when the vanilla trilogy exists. I'm so old.
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>>581911480
No one above 2700 yet so not particularly but they said they're upping inflation starting last week, so should start seeing some increase this week.
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>>581948764
i have multiples of every paladin race besides zanda and tauren because i don't like them
i will be leveling two more when 12.2 comes out
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>>581949732
Blizz put a lot of effort into it. Clearly they thought it would lead to a WoW Renaissance. The game systems were great. I found it unrecognizable as Warcraft, as well as too gay, feminine, and melodramatic. Way too much talk about feelings and trauma and 'We must be better dragons." Dragonflight was quintessential California Fantasy.
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>>581948764
I'm missing highmountain tauren, regular drawf, and alliance haranir
I have 60 90s btw
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>>581949732
No, but it was pretty good.
Legion was Better.
WotLK was better unironically, but you had to be there to understand it.
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>>581908097
no ones interested in mythic raiding sis retail is dead
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>>581951025
Tbf I'm not a "libtard" or whatever but fuck it it was good to see them go mask off and make the game they wanted to make. Love it or hate it (obviously most hated it), it was the stories they wanted to tell. It felt genuine. And that lent itself to good game systems and combat
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>>581949732
No, it wasn't that bad
SL is the peak of the formula for the last 4 expacs
the new trees are dogshit
i have never liked them
season 4s dinar system was really good
fyralath was cool
>>581950649
prune + addon fuckery shit on encounter design
thats why it sucks
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>>581950920
Time is cruel
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>>581951282
the prune is good retard
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>>581948764
I have a character for most specs which are spread across most races. Usually I went with whatever race was most thematic for the class/hero spec but I also spread the race choices so that no class was all on the same faction and there weren't race duplicates for a class. This ended up with some unsatisfactory choices (enhancement shaman went to dwarf for wildhammer theme instead of orc because the other 2 shamans were horde) but over all I think it turned out well.
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>>581951302
Yea, I was a middle schooler then and now I'm starting to bold and I'm my mid twenties and still don't feel that old despite being there for long time. Worst part is that I DIDN'T SAVE ANY FUCKING screenshot from that time ever
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>>581948764
I have a character per race at 80 thanks to lemix. Though, I doubt I'll get all of them to 90 because of overlapping classes.
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>>581952451
your troll and tauren are so sexy
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Would you a Draeneera?
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are you guys collecting moggies to make your character look badass in 12.2.5
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>flushes the retoilet
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>>581952451

Based
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>>581953571
>releases the same turd for a 2nd time
>classicbabs eat it up this time
hehe
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>>581951538
no it isn't
you're a moron if you think that
complexity is good
the game doesn't need to appeal to you or more people
go play woof
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>>581953571
thats my favorite streamer
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just did a weekly with /ourguy/ bkt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZ-piEcN5E
>mazies cry they have to raid
>rextroy just solos the bosses
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>>581950920
>>581950410
you made me remember how i played mop on warm evenings in peace
i even vividly remember exploring isle of thunder after taking a shower, jesus fucking christ
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>>581954165
cool retard i just got my last cantrip
hes 6 weeks late
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>>581954286
dont forget your hrt
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finally got hero of the mist
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>>581954914
nice job king
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Why do white people think it's ok to flaunt their slaves in the middle of Stormwind city?
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Looks like they increased the size of the 1% mount
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>>581949732
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>>581954165
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>581953951
complexity for the sake of complexity is retarded
go play gooklick
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>>581952915
All women should become draenei
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its time to hire game designer for rogue ion
ion can you hear me
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>>581944410
And get disqualified!!!!!
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love worlo
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>>581956241
>go play gooklick
>implying i don't
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>>581956241
>>581953951
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>>581954914
One more week for me unless I grind it out on an alt or piss away my time trying first 2/3 on mythic.
I was extra wasteful with hero crests this season...
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>>581955247
i can't tell unless i see someone on belo mount desu
i didn't notice it until i stood next to one in the first place
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>>581957701
I saw one next to the blue bird
Same size now
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alive general
alive game
alive future development :)
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>forevercucks paying for last titan development
lol
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>mfw I got the brewfest bomber on the first try this year
there is no r in rng
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Best patch in a generation
I miss Karesh
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>>581960768
Youll be able to go there again when they reuse it for forever, but this time… it will be at least 3 times as gay as it was in retail!
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Hazzikostas said. "I think we would like to offer something like that in The Last Titan, for people who want a more challenging, rewarding outdoor experience ... as well as more friction, and more purpose. A world where the outer world is devoid of threats or excitement is missing something. We would never say 'Go play Classic if you want that.' All versions of WoW should have that."

NO FLYING MOUNTS CONFIRMED

flying sissies get the fuck outta my world tier bitches
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>>581961284
They will disable flying mounts for heroic world tier, then the forum ticks will complain that Blizzard isn't respecting their time and they HAVE to have flying mounts for this optional content.
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real talk what will they do with talents in TLT
the current iteration already feels a bit bloated
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>>581960390
be happy thats the last retail xpac mutt
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>>581961284
unless heroic world tier drops 3/6 hero gear its doa
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eigh nigga fuck unholy
fuck rogue
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>>581947083
Literally half the posts in this general are straight from reddit. Why not just, go there? What does this place offer that reddit doesnt? Americans posting AI porn?
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>>581961891
maybe cope but I think they will unfuck it slightly and go back to the simpler system of tww
I bet we're gonna start seeing a bunch of positive changes from the devs now that there's a fire under their ass
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>my fucking dps with the ulatek trinket
fucking hell they better fix this shit next season
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>>581965053
Spicy Worg
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>>581965053

worgeN
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>>581965053
In the Forever timeline she is hunted in rural Gilneas and put down like a mindless mutt....... this image flashes in her eyes in her last moments..........................
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>>581965520
Man you're one triggered little shitskin aren't you?
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>retail players: can we have a new class?
>blizzard: no
>meanwhile forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ZjbosuuMo
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>>581965921
who's a bigger sellout xaryu or me?
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>>581965615
seethe mutt
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>someone got banned for RMT in Forever beta
>RMT
>in a beta server
>amount the Gm saw? 1g 75s

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA fking pajeet GMs banning people I swear roflmao
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>>581966132
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>>581966005
What a strange thing to draw
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>>581966169
glad they are being very agressive with it from the start making sure you gold buying and gold farming subhuman know you are not welcome.

Forever is supposed to be a more chilled out version of wow. Minmaxing competitive buyfags need to gtfo right fucking now and never return.
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why do I do the things I do?
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>>581966194
>1 instaseethe reply
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>>581966429
Bro, you're the one replying to random worgen posts with gay fanfiction about hunting them down and slaughtering them in a really masturbatory way. Look in the mirror.
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>>581966354
>LMAO she thinks forever wont be ghosttown autists speedrunning baby tier raids in 2 months or less xD
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>>581966354
im not the one who got banned friend
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>>581966404
>why do I do the things I do?
terminal autism
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Blizzard wants to replace retail with Forever
Retail will either become classic wow or EoS
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>>581966817
>EoS
its this

retail fans wont accept the changes necessary to keep it afloat, and no amount of changes can make it vanilla so real fans wont touch it anyway.
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if you keep spamming the thread every day it'll become true
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>>581967235
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>if you don't play the 20 year old version of the game for a decade straight then you're not a real fan!!
bud, real fans played vanilla and have a good laugh at how zoomies ruined classic instantly, stop kidding yourself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKrxWbA-yAc

INVITE TO ASMONLAYER
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man why does the druid discord have such shit takes
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Total retoilet flushing will commence on November 4th.

Be ready.
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Post them. I rank expansions based on how much they improved the game, features, overall gameplay.

Vanilla will always be number one
TBC added flying mounts, arena and heroic dungeons. The lore sucked ass though.
Wrath added death knights, dungeon finder, made more specs viable, heroic raids, had the best villain/setting. Layering is dogshit though, heirlooms are lame and the raids besides ICC and Ulduar sucked.
Cata added transmogging and reforging. The class balancing was the best it’s ever been at this point. Holy power sucks. The zones were mid. The lore got eternally raped.
MoP has endless things to do. Mythic raids. Monk was added.
PvP was the best it’s ever been and hasn’t been as fun since. Abysmal talent trees, Pandaren were added (bad) and unless you’re a chink the aesthetic sucked.
WoD added new HD models, questing and zones were the best experience since Wrath, dungeons and raids were actually fun. Garrisons sucked, Tanaan sucked and some of the HD models were subjectively worse. Selfie patch. Ashran was terrible.
Legion added Maze+ dungeons. Demon hunter. Zone scaling. Better transmogging. Reused garrisons and turned it into class halls. Artifact weapons were cool for about 5 min. Reworked the running and combat animations and made them worse.
BfA added allied races. The problem is most of them sucked. All the features added were mid and practically dead now. Tried to reuse the artifact system but with a gay little amulet. Azerite armor. Removed tier sets.
Shadowlands added the vault. Ruined the lore. Boreghast. Zones sucked besides Revendreth.
Dragonflight added dragon flying reworked talent trees, added solo shuffle and blitz. Had a ton to do, the most since MoP. Reputation rework was needed. Also improves trannymogging. Added another furry race. The story was kinda boring.
War Within added hero specs, delves and warbands. Mid story. Earthen are kinda boring.
Midnight added housing. The rest of the expansion has been bad. Reminds me of BfA
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>>581968984
>A tier
>mop dragonflight the war within
stopped reading there
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>>581969060
>female king
>female warriors
holy woke
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>>581968984
>midnight on the same tier as cata and wod
Go on, elaborate without mentioning the story.
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There's been arguments on x about rather horde or alliance is the White mans faction. What are wowg thoughts
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>>581965921
this isn't even that bad, him complaining about how mages aren't getting enough and they're ruined because of the blizzard nerfs is a million times worse

>one of my THREE dps specs is only three buttons!
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Look at this woke shit.
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world of gayfag: disingenuous grifter edition
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>>581968540
HYPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhujujc0x0U
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>>581969520
she drops one ugly mount
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>>581969520
I miss her old design
This one was cool at first but it feels distinctly granny tranny coded now
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>>581969520
she's so fucking gorgeous
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>>581962951
all the good AI sloppa is posted by an eurofag
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>>581969947
hubba bubba
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>>581969520
But she's one of the few good things from nuwow
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Ah yes retail....the wow forever waiting room, can't wait until Nov when retail player count tanks.
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>>581969520
Lots of jeets replying to this toilet image
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Jeet hours
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so why is forever a retail killer and not a classic killer if it was "classic+"?
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>>581970165
>>581970203
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>>581969141
shoudlve stopped at wrath in s
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>>581970501
It's midnight in India retard.
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>>581970691
you play wow during the day?
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>>581969141
Literally did more to improve the game than anything below it

>>581969321
Midnight has done next to nothing to improve the game besides housing and some qol changes to transmogs
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>>581970691
>indian defense forces
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>>581970691
Sadly not every indian lives in india anymore, also midnight is general still active hours. Hit dog barks.
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>>581970802
Yeah, after work and before bed like a normal person.
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>>581906560
they need to fix the legs and this would be perfect.
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You're not thinking long term enough
WoW Forever Classic in 2030, a snapshot release of WoW Forever as it launched in 2026
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>>581970691
Funny how you revealed yourself.
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>>581968984
the only good thing about wrath was death knights
does not deserve to be in the same tier as the first two
it should be in c tier with the other mid expansions, its babbys first experience with the game and has alot of nostalgia attached
mists had really deep design but why is it in the same tier as df and tww
if you thought df and tww should be that high SL was literally the prototype for every single expansion thats come out since, and it was a better version too despite what youtube man told you
legion should be in the same tier as BFA or one higher
fixed
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>>581970993
It's called Google, dude.
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>>581971054
Indians work for google you know.
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>>581971196
Fuck don't remind me.
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According to Sneedolands defenders what happened is that everyone suddenly based their WoW sub on what streamers thought and streamers told them to hate SL so they did and quit, afterwards they all at once stopped listening to streamers
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signs that you're down bad and lost bigly:
indirect replies
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shrek.gif
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https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/i-spoke-to-the-world-of-warcraft-forever-team-about-balance-competing-with-retail-adding-classic-style-player-housing-and-more

>"We're going to consistently deliver new 10 and 20 player content every patch. Onyxia will be our 40 man raid. Classic players enjoy a casual experience, we don't want people to do 100 attempts on a boss."

THIS KILLS THE RETOILET
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>>581971751
washing thrall's cock (with my mouth)
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>>581971906
*toilet flushing sounds*

BYE BYE RETAIL
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>>581970593
classic killed itself by being boring as fuck
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>>581971042
>1 instaseethe reply
volumes
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>>581971906
>we don't want people to do 100 attempts on a boss
Lame
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>dude, win 50 battlegrounds and be rewarded with as much conquest as winning a normal bg!
>wait 3 hours in queue to face other players in abandoned pet battles!
these fucking troll weeklies need to fucking stop bro, already ruined vaults now Tuesday is just weekly reset for conc crafting autists and no one else
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>>581971906
So forever is not even good for raidlogging? LMFAO so much for the retail killer
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>>581972984
The queers over in the forever general are talking about “min maxing” this baby tier difficulty retail lite when people are going to be speedrun steamrolling this shit day one in questing gear.
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>>581973156
pisseasy raids that you can't fail is exactly what classic (and raidlogging) is all about newfren
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wowhead says that Ritual Site Studies gives a Nebulous Voidcore (ie reroll) on the third and sixth quests, I just slogged through 4 ritual sites and I don't see it on the rewards for the 3rd quest
I can see that it's a season 1 questline, but does that mean they removed the rerolls from the rewards?
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in a world where wow forever exists, there is no place for retail wow.
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>>581973265
ya probably, bet they bring it back in the .5 patch when they add like one new ritual site to call it content. almost no one I was pushing with even knew about that one kek
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>lets threaten our forever-game by releasing another game that voids all progression and achievements and call it "Forever" implying that the other one is getting discontinued, this definitely will increase trust for our new forever-game!
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>>581973745
>Implying the plan wasn't always to do a controlled demolition of WoW so that the Jeets could pocket all the money and flee back to India.
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>>581973225
and the classhits cry out in shock when you mock them for being filtered only to carry the same mindset into babby game and shit up le journey proving the point
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You will abandon your 20+ year old mount collection and you will start over with Forever
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>>581973745
>Let's also build our marketing for this new game on shitting on the old one, while also giving the new one better graphics, lore, and features.
What were they thinking?
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>>581973959
I already got the purple owl anyway so basically wonned
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Raids should be 5 man content with full loot drops and all, and 10-20 man as strictly optional. Friend-coded content beats anything, its healthier for building communities and funner for everyone.
Too many players is unnatural and creates friction it makes guilds become ''vehicles'' rather than the communities they're meant to be, which is bringing people together.
If you disagree, i will assume you are a smelly and crusty 35yo unc. Lay off the alcohol for once it's cooking your brain drink some fruit punch or something, fr fr.
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>1 filtered filename
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>>581974125
>a smelly and crusty 35yo unc. Lay off the alcohol for once it's cooking your brain

Way to call foxxo out
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>>581969520
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
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>>581974665
LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR HERE, That poor word arrangement was a coincidence and NOT an insult directed at Foxxo. I think he's a very cool poster. I meant that as a general insult to Millennials having Alcohol problem
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friendly reminder avatroon usage is against the rules, try talking about world of warcraft instead of begging for attention in the future or I will be forced to report you to the 4chan authorities
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>>581974125
i just do raids in story mode or lfr because social interaction paralyzes me
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https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302071/wow-forever-meet-the-new-skyborne
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>>581975250
I haven't seen a single avatarfag ban on 4bans tk
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>>581975270
Shitborne and cumborne.
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pls gz
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>>581975643
Gz you stupid furball.
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>>581975643
dont care furtroon
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>>581975643
you all ignored and/or ridiculed me when I got it, so no, I will not gz you, piss off, your bgblitz nuhwl means less than nothing.
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To think this used to be a manly franchise for men about brutal war and demons and undead and now it's "SLAAAY QUEEN DID YOU BUY THE $40 USD HOUSE DECO YET!??!"
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>>581975643
Nice!
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>>581974125
No. Raids should be much smaller than they are but variable raid sizes are a retarded idea that inevitably cause balance and scaling issues again and again.
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>>581976130
bruh world of warcraft was never manly lmao you used to get your head dunked in the toilet for playing it
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>>581976612
yes, of course, just because you are a loser you are devoid of manliness
it is exactly the same for a nerdy guy to like fantasy wars as it is to like dressing up as a girl and remodeling a house
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>>581976612
thats not true half the popular kids in my grade were playing it
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>>581975270
lmao they low ressed the druid forms
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>>581975257
I agreed, that's why raids should be 5 man content. You're not paralyzed when you're with the same 5 friends you're tightly nit with, it's natural.
Or as they say here, your 'Clique'.
>>581975643
Gz!
>>581976332
The idea is that raids being 10+ is retarded and bad for social aspect especially with modern day retail, it's just not fun to be in VC with 15+ other people i don't know, it's awkward.
Plus managing all those people on top of the responsibilities effectively turn guilds into jobs and not a community of friends lol, 10+ man raids need to go it's such a retarded quirk of WoW.
So let me put it this way, raids should be radically changed at every level to accommodate for that, think mega dungeons of sorts.
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>>581976612
>you used to get your head dunked in the toilet for playing it

How old are you?
Every single married 30/40 year old dad was playing it.
Who was dunking your head in toilets at 30/40 zoom zoom?
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>>581912184
poo1 eos
wait wrong game
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>>581977283
>The idea is that raids being 10+ is retarded and bad for social aspect especially with modern day retail, it's just not fun to be in VC with 15+ other people i don't know, it's awkward.
Yeah I agree with that part, just not the variable raid size. Every difficulty should enforce the same number of players in the instance.
10 would be best imo, twice the size of a dungeon party like OG does it.

The only downside is that with a smaller raid each individual player becomes much more valuable so the shit specs would have an even harder time finding a spot.
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>>581977283
This is all just your personal opinion though, I like bigger raids. I like smaller raids. I'd rather have the option of both rather than be forced into one.
Besides, it's often enough we've tried to get people together and someone got left out because we can only do a 5 man queue for something.

Only thing I would change to the current raid system is let Mythic raid scale from 10+ also.
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Anyone got the version of this with J'lor edited in, I need it for reasons.
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>>581975643
Fenruki is on globo? Holy shit the guild is bussing!!
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>>581977697
I like 5 because its friend-coded, but 10 is also a sweet spot because it's two sibling cliques doing content together but anything over that is too much imo but it being bigger size works as longest its strictly optional hence loot tables being same regardless of size.
>The only downside is that with a smaller raid each individual player becomes much more valuable so the shit specs would have an even harder time finding a spot.
That's precisely what raids being changed to friend content instead of psuedo job content would solve, not a problem if it's friends playing together. Small scale stuff is easier to manage, puts less stress on guild officers, friends always stick together.
Less people is also more versatile times to raid together. Friendship does wonders, the moment an officer has to think outside friends,- it becomes a job not a community, it's forced and unnatural.

I feel like i've repeated myself 3 times now but wording it differently on above paragraph. I can't stress enough how important it is for guilds to just be friendgroups and not 'jobs'. That is the concept, that is the core of all this.
>>581978036
Above reply.
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>>581915538
This. I mainly play classic but posting here recently because wowfg is the new retoilet thread.

I don't play WoW Classic to have infinite horizontal progression. I like wipes eventually to do it over again. The idea of having a server that stays that way forever (pun intended) is retarded because it'll eventually just turn into a power creep mess where nothing feels threatening and old content gets abandoned. They also have no idea who to market this to. Retoileters hate it and Classic players are lukewarm about it and there isnt any "new" people trying to play WoW these days since MMOs have been a dead genre for years that fail to attract new people they just attract the same players who rotate games in the genre.
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I don't get what horizontal progression means. Forever will never do a "level squish"? so you can go up to lvl 999999999? infinite level?
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>>581979847
You max out at level 60 and every new raid adds items with the same power level. There's some rare chase items which will keep you redoing those raids and that's it.
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>>581977283
>it's just not fun to be in VC with 15+ other people i don't know
Disagree. As an asocial autist I like larger raids because I can sit in the back competing on the meters, quietly enjoying the banter and only speaking up once or twice per raid night to explain a mechanic.

>>581979847
The idea is that the level cap will never raise and they'll rely on cantrips and set bonuses to keep old loot relevant for longer, like how people were still using Thunderfury in TBC raids because of the proc. For example there's a 2-piece ring set in Forever with one of the rings coming from Deadmines and the other coming from UBRS. My prediction is that it won't work because it's never worked in any other MMO, if they add new raids there will be inevitable power creep and it'll become seasonal. Blizzard literally ONLY makes seasonal games.
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>>581979847
>average wow player don't know anything outside of wow and thinks blizzard invents all these new things like "horizontal progression"
Blizzdrones are like north koreans
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>>581979976
>>581980735

So it will be roguelike? All gear same level but with a "special effect" each so you can equip whatever fits your build or raid you're gonna do or whatever?
Sounds kinda boring honestly
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>My prediction is that it won't work because it's never worked in any other MMO
This. Horizontal progression is a meme that only works if the gameplay is good enough to keep people's attention on its own. And tab target mmo gameplay (especially wow classic) is not.

Warframe is an example of a horizontal progression game that makes it work, but even that has power creep.
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>>581980903

What other game has horizontal progression?
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>>581980934
>All gear same level but with a "special effect" each so you can equip whatever fits your build or raid you're gonna do or whatever?
yes some gear will drop with bonus damage vs x or speed movement inside a cave
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>apply to some 16s
>no invites
>5 minutes always run out
>log off
alright
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WoWsisters....
51 hours /played on the beta....
Someone send help. How do I put the game down and play retail again?
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The most interesting thing i've learned about PvPers while talking to some is how guildless & unaffected by guilds they are. They don't need guilds to do content they just have each other added on battlenet and play whenever at their leisure without drawbacks. The ones that do guilds are on RP guilds.
People that do Mythic+/Delves only are the same, it's almost as if people yearn for proper friend guilds but can't because raiding taints how guilds are ran. People won't stick to a 'community guild' they'll go to the guild that does content 'the best' like a job, it's so wrong. Raiding as is right now is the worst part of WoW
>>581980735
That's your preference and i respect it, i can understand that. But my point is all about guilds being communities and not jobs for healthier overall social experience, big raids can still occur on that scenario as longest 15+ is strictly optional.
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>>581981489
I wont help I hope you play it forever, 51 hours is literally the start of the beginning, get ready for hour 5100+!
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>>581981489
> I haven't played retail for 3 days!! RETAIL IS SO DEAD!! Who wants to go back to retail!??!!? lmaooo
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retailsissies seething instead of wow being back thanks to forever, said retailsissies would rather continue to play womanslop story of retail and the alliance power rangers. Come on pal just join WoWFOREVER and play it. There's a big chance blood elf and high elf get added so stop being a fag and play the superior wow.
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>>581980934
With enough raids out we will reach a level of saturation that will force them to rebalance things or introduce ilvl power creep. Gonna take a while but eventually every spec will have a build full of these super rare items.
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>>581982535
>if you don't have this super rare special set for this raid, you are out
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>>581982342
all the tranny homo shit in retail is coming too, you know it is, they arent going to leave those assets UN-reused ;^)

I cant wait for shadowtranny lands: forever! lmao who am i kidding, we may never even see one expansion, shits deader than dead once asmon contract expires
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>>581982342
>I play both

>also thinking the girlboss writing wont be in Forever either

you think after the disney bear trailer its not going to have the same shit after awhile?
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The inferiority complex of the retards who immediately beeline to shitpost in this thread whenever some dogshit fotm mmo is getting its 5 minutes of fame has to be studied.
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>>581982342
Forever is not going to be immune to the propaganda machine.
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>>581982692
retailslop is stuck with tranny writing :) as long as it lives it will be stuck with the same tranny devs so have fun there
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Is it just me or is the traveler's log completely broken? The progress bar and the activities list don't load
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>>581982342
>continue to play womanslop story of retail

brb jumping on wow forever!
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>>581983059
Yea but we’ve been born and molded in the tranny shit, you have simply adopted it…
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Specs for this feel?
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>playing undead paladin
>quests are helping your fellow forsaken
>actually feels like I'm playing a paladin of the light
Why can't retail do this? Why are thewriters so shit on retail???
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>>581979630
Yeah I get where you are coming from but you're missing the point a little I think.
With smaller raids becomes greater personal responsibility. i.e if your friend is kind of shit then they will 100% block your progress entirely in a very small raid.
You can afford to have an underperforming healer when you have 4 healers, you can't afford an underperforming healer when you have two.
It doesn't feel exactly great when one of your friends is the reason you can't progress.

How often do you raid and at what level?
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>>581983679
this is any retailsissy so pick any class sis! we retailsissies loved being caged
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>>581984076
someday I will break out of my cage…
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Is arms warrior really the best partner for assassination rogue in shuffle?

Cave dweller thread aside, mortal strike and the crowd control is enough to make dissapearing act plays?
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>>581982342
>bro just collect the boar asses and press frostbolt bro
its easier to ignore a bad story than it it would be to enjoy classic gameplay

hope it ends up succeeding for them, though.
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>>581983906
It's there in the side quests. I still remember the old earthen with dementia from TWW. I think the main difference is that retail starts you off with a main questline right off the bat, while in classic it takes until the higher levels to have something that feels that way. If the main questline was locked behind level 85 while you start at 80 and have to just do side shit the effect would be much different.
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>>581983679
preservation evoker
this is femthyr to a t
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>>581984413
You don't even need to give her a quarter if you say the right words.
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Redpill me on MM hunter.

I like the spec fantasy but I kinda fucking hate aimed shot.
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>>581982342
>muh retail is shit because of the company!!! that's why I'm playing the same game from the same company because that one's based for some reason
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>>581984337
and thats exactly it, retail’s story is comically bad but it has gameplay, forever is no real story beyond vanilla text and no gameplay, everybody is just nostalgia fomo bandwagon fotm’ing this shit like every other classic release.
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>>581984638
They've killed it. I hope you like standing still for a 3sec aimed shot because that's most your damage. Every 2min you get to have fun though.
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how long before retail is the non canon game and forever is the canon one because you can play forever on xbox?
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>>581985249
Fuck. Guess I'll stick to BM.
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>>581985360
i think there is no return for retail
expansions have wrecked the setting
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>click on retail interview
>its come fag interviewing the retail devs
>ugly lesbo woman dev
>sassy gay man talk about retail
Ah yes...the retail playerbase
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>>581985740
What's worse is that both of MM's Hero trees are race-themed. Want to be a just a Dwarf who's good with a rifle? Too bad! Better get used to Forsaken or Night Elf class fantasy.
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>>581985360

there literally cant be a canon when there are multiple timelines
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I really don't know if i should make one character of each race, i woudln't know when to play it. Some expansions would fit some characters like DH Night Elf, Dwarf Hunter for TWW, etc. but i'd have no place where to use a gnome or worgen and stuff
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>>581984027
Well buddy, in my friendgroup's case this is not applicable! we learn together and have fun we don't suck the fun out of games by enforcing a mindset of 'BE BEST PLAYER EVER'..!!
Can see this being the case elsewhere yes but then said people can find chiller friendgroups after, that's the magic of it the amount of diversity of friendgroups.
Just look at the cliques here for reference
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>>581987014
worgen can larp as all 3 hunter hero trees
no other race can do that
therefore worgen is the canon hunter race
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It's already leaked that Blood Elves are joining the Alliance and Gilneas is joining the Horde in Forever
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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>>581987803
Yes but when you have five friends and one friend is legitimately unable to do the content because of severe skill issue what is the answer?
All five people don't do the content?
Replace one friend?
Or, expand the raid to 10-15 players, friend-of-friends and pugs, to finish the raid with the core friend group still together?

It's not about 'being best player' it's the fact of the matter that there are people in this thread that gray parse continually, you can't drag those players through content for fun if there's not enough people to drag them.
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>>581987905

Bullshit
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I quit WoW years ago so now I'll share my previously undiscovered infinite gold cheat
Step 1. Get Dragonflight engineering a character capable of dropping combat such as a hunter
Step 2. Unlock the specializations that give you scrap and reduce the chance of malfunctions, Optimized Efficiency
Step 3: Find a raid boss you can pull and reset instantly without killing, dying to, or getting out of range of. I used Trial of Valor LFR for this
Step 4: Set a macro to use pull the boss, drop combat, use your engineering belt, then cast Rummage Through Scrap.
Step 5: Repeat infinitely as pulling the boss resets all of your cooldowns.
If left running overnight, this will get you dozens of Dented Can, Malfunctioning Stealthman, Defective Doomsday Device, and S.E.A.T. toys that sold for millions of gold each during Dragonflight but were made far easier to obtain in TWW so are probably worthless now, but if the current expansion has anything similar to exploit it should still work
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>>581987905
Finally an excuse to play a male (bodytype2) worgen
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>every melee spec except feral, ass and sub rogue currently wants the same 1h/2h + trinket thats locked behind the penultimate boss of the raid
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Word on the street is that Aggrend got fired in the recent layoffs.
It's never been more over.
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>>581988698
Can't wait for Ion to see the record low engagement with this dogshit raid.
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>>581989103
the raid is kino tho
the loot situation is the problem
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>>581988985
Good. Hope he gets lynched too
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i did something based in game
i got my guildmaster breathing down my neck now tho
and my other trinket
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>doing delves with my alt
>I did 160k
>valeera did 600k
Valeera fucking owns me
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KEJ im blasting alts to with timewalk
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>>581988267
Well, buddy! my friendgroup really is built differently so the behavior you speak of is not a thing, can't relate. We play with undergeareds already on M+ so it's okay.
Also as i've said before, i didn't mean 5 man to be forced i said it being valid and doable for those that want too. 10-15 just as valid but not 'requirement', raid loot drops the same it drops 5 pieces 5 or 15 man. This benefits everyone your scenarios included
>But balancing
Then nerf them into oblivion. Social comes first, this is a MMORPG, fuck competitive nonsense. Classic raids are so easy maybe that's why people like vanilla so much.
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lol i'm owning noobs
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>>581987905
>It's already leaked that Blood Elves are joining the Alliance
Literally any elf other than High Elves at this point
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I'm doing something incredibly based in the game and this can be only done in retail
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>>581987905
They already released an interview saying that Horde likely will still get Blood Elves in Forever, but they know they can't do one without the other. And given they wanna do Quel'thalas at some point and how they know Blood Elves will need to start in Quel'thalas, they have to think of where to shit out High Elves as having them start in Northshire Abby would feel too private servery.
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>>581990617
Even in Classic High Elf chimps can't help but hold Blood Elves hostage.
Sad!
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>>581990535
BASÉ
A
S
É
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>>581990617
>They already released an interview saying that Horde likely will still get Blood Elves in Foreve
They're just placating the no-shoe niggers, they'll later post that Metzen staggered into the office drunk and told them to "think bigger" instead of just giving the Horde Blood Elves again
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>decide to play retail again after finishing with Forever beta
>cant find a single dungeon while leveling besides the occasional TBC one

why does no one level anymore?
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>>581990127
same, it's crazy how much better I am than every other player I meet
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>>581990535

Fucking blood elf men as a male orc?
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>new/returning player here
>decided to play retail again hours after the dungeon leveling event ended
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>>581989835
>>581990535
qrd?
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i said the thing
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>long time friend is in game 18 hours a day
>never wants to do anything when I ask her
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>tfw demoted to friends list +1'd from friendzoned
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>log in game
>nothing to do
>log out
>log in Forever
>have fun
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yea we're all gonna play forever anon, we're just not playing the beta
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>>581990047
wtf is this nigga trying to say
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ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe which ehehehehehehehehehe which version of wow shall have the most female players by the end of the year ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe just wondering which to play!
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>>581992950
uh yea that's gonna be World of Warcraft: Forever, coming in november
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enough about forever
go talk about forever in your containment thread
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What the fuck do I do?
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>>581942418
uhhh
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>>581993248
well did you bonus roll either of those items off of coiled altar yet? looks like you're a frost dk
you should probably just take the coin bro
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>>581993539
I'm a fury warrior and I've only used 1 bonus roll on altar and got the cloak. How did they fuck up the vault so bad that I have to take bonus rolls over bis mythic items?
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>>581993248
weapon
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>less than a week and it's about to become his 2nd most viewed video ever
Y-you'll all come back to retail for 12.2.......... right?
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>>581993813
haha
ya idk man thats blizz for you
feels bad
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>>581993852
Hope this grifting fuck gets ran over by a truck
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>>581993852
Is he still doing the As a Game Developer bit, or did he stop doing that after Mick saw people taking the piss out of him for it here?
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>>581993852
how many videos is he going to make that hes quitting retail? (never actually does it)
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there are sop many heroic groups
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>Liadrin literally shouts that she's going to save the Amani from Kith'ix
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LITERAL WHITE SAVIOR TROPE

BLIZZARD ENDORSES ASMONGOLD AND TND FOR WOW FOREVER
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>>581995690
ok
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>>581995690
>(el)foid dies
dont care
justice for zuljan
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>>581995904
>dies
Anon...
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>>581995904
it turned out to be bait, she stands around alive after the raid ends
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>>581996045
>>581996093
shouldve known an elf and a woman would surive
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>>581996196
people randomly decided she was dead
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>>581996296
her sword was leaked and given as a quest item
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>>581996369
wasnt a leak it was a datamined item but you getting her sword doesnt mean she is dead
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Maybe I shouldn’t have bought Midnight 2 days ago and instead bought forever…
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>>581996465
when a known npc passes its prized posession to the champion after a raid it often means it's over
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>>581996465
Blizzard's storytelling is so predictable. She'll be killed by xal and her death will be used as another reason why we should hate xal
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>>581995904
>dies

you mean become new faction leader of the blood elves?
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Liadrin shit's so funny. She gets a throw away 1 off boss raid because they got caught giving the Blood Elves 0 agency in the Quel'thalas expansion to prop up the Void Elves. So to compensate, they proceed to give the Amani Trolls zero agency in a plot about C'thraaxi coming back to kill them so a Blood Elf can shine
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Do you think they'll bring Tyr back, or is that whole plotline permanently memory holed? Pretty funny that Tyr has canonically been lounging around for fucking literal years having a big ol' THINK while his Tyr's Guard keep asking him "hey man maybe you could do something about Northrend or one of the other countless problems going on right now" but good ol' Tyr just keeps thinkin'
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>>581997669
He'll get the Ra-Den treatment.
You meet him in his depression goon cave before a portal opens and evil Aman'thul yoinks him through it, then 5 patches later you find him as a corrupted filler boss in the final raid.
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>>581997601
We wouldn't want to waste any precious time that could be spent on Arator the Chosen One
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>>581997601
>>581996093
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>>581997981
How does that change anything that was said?
Liadrin's getting a single boss raid cause they got caught.
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>>581995690
where do white women currently stand in the woke power rankings?
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IT'S UP
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why doesn't Jaina just one shot Xally?
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>>581998431
leveling was never fun in classic.
actually now that i think about it neither was raiding.
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>>581998447
Because Xally's voice over bill 1 shot the budget originally used for Jaina's voice over bill
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Eating good tonight
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>>581998521
lvling is fun in forever, they added a shitload of quests, dungeons and you get endless items from quests and craftings
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>>581998631
preach said "again" which implies there was a point in which it was fun.
this is false. it was never fun.
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>>581998950
true
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>>581999086
where is the vulpera
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>>581998431
I don't get why people take streamers opinions on shit like levelling seriously. They'll always have a different experience to the average player. Streamer doesn't have to sit around waiting to tag quest mob and having to form a group for a quest fight to level.
Streamer just has to go.
CUM ON GUYS, NORF NEEDS HIS XP, LOG THE FOK ON AND LET'S DO THIS SHIT. FUNNEL YE' FOKIN LOOT TO ME OR I GO BEAT ME FOKIN WIEFE
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>>581994030
He is getting very rotund, so it's only a matter of time.
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craptoilet is beyond finished
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I need blizzard to stop making buttcapes until they figure out how to give them cloth physics.

They look like fucking garbage as is.
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>19 Hours ago

lmao
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>>581999628
i need blizzard to make their armor actually conform to my character's anatomy
everything looks like garbage
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>>581999628
remember when everyone basedfaced over the housing curtain having physics and then they never did it again for any other curtain
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>>582000007
that was made by the one competent jeet that no one at blizzard knows about because he makes $7.25 an hour.
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>>581999086
I've seen their buttholes.
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is plea just useless on disc? why would I use this over literally anything else?
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>>581999145
who
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>>582000345
all of them?
proof?
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>>582000345
But have you felt them?
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>open vault
>take reroll
>do ulatek heroic
>get raped on said reroll
>go back to forever beta
many such cases.
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>>582001608
>open vault
>take reroll
>do ulatek heroic
>get raped on said reroll
>go back to forever
>raid log MC
>go back to retail
>erp in my house

soon ill be home.
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Taking the reroll is actually the alpha male coded decision because you are delaying gratification which is an alpha thing to do.
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>>582001746
>log into forever
>go back to retoilet
things that have not and never will happened for 500
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>open vault
>take reroll
>get raped on said reroll
>go back to forever
>raid log MC
>go back to retail
>can't because they shut down the servers because everyone is playing Forever
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>>582001892
does this mean wearing cages is alpha?
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>>582001910
you're right. i guess i could erp with the low poly tauren baddies in forever after raid logging too.
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>>582002062
i think you can be a bit more creative with it anon
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>>581915820
>>581915385
this all already played out over at RuneScape
>RS3 players are hesitant about OSRS at first and see it mostly as a novelty for uncs, even while RS3 has many problems they'd like to see changed
>over time OSRS is proven to be the more popular version as they add more shit to it
>RS3 slowly dies in the background, OSRS is seen as the "real" RuneScape in the wider culture
>eventually RS3 starts adopting OSRS design philosophy to create a compromise and try to win people back

the exact same thing is going to play out with Forever, and Ion is already talking about adopting some of Forever's design
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>>581999868
It's because we're not allowed to post worgs here anymore
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>>582002574
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>>582002515
the difference is that jagex cashed out to chinese bugmen.
wow hasnt sold out to them. yet.
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>>582002648
no tail.
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>>582002515
Ion is literally an Elitist Jerk and everything he's done to the game since becoming the lead dev has catered to people who unironically enjoy Mythic dungeons/raiding. I really doubt he'll go back to shit like instances only having one difficulty
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>>581998431
leveling is literally the worst part of the game
its only tolerable on mage and it is a fucking nightmare until you can spellcleave sm into zf graves into spellcleave brd
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>>582002648
>cata gilneas already on the map
please fucking god let us have worgen characters PLEASE i will pay the extra money
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>get hero guillotine in timewalking box
>sim character yesterday with crafted 2h
>bonus roll mazeroa
>pick up 16% damage
holy fucking hell
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>>582002648
vile fiend
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Why does everyone hate them again? I've been levelling one and they're pretty fun. When they swim underwater their fingers spin like propellers, it's extremely soulful.
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>>582003247
>gear from the final 2 bosses of the raid makes up 50% of player power
Is this good dame design?
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>>582003348
they wear diapers.
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>>582003348
they look stupid as fuck and pretty much all gear looks terrible on them
allied races were a mistake, the only worthwhile one they added, nightborne, they were lazy as shit with and couldn't even be bothered to give them their own casting animations
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>>582003398
no
i guess my spec got buffed inbetween today and yesterday tho
faghead said its a 4% buff
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>>582002890
I feel like retail is mostly developed for the "i like playing my class in different difficult content, and collecting cool looking armor" crowd at this point.

If you try to strip so much away that it becomes some shambling pseudo-Classic, it'll just die. That won't appeal to either crowd.
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>>582003398
>Is this good dame design?
yes in a way depending on your goal. the hardest content or most power evil guy in your game should drop the best shit.
now whether blizzo executed on implementing this well is another discussion.
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>>582003398
it's not
heart of ulatek is twice as strong as every other (non guillotine) trinket in the game for certain classes like DK
it's literally like having 2 trinkets in the same slot
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>>582003493
>they look stupid as fuck and pretty much all gear looks terrible on them
same goes for regular gnomes but people seem to have no problem with them
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>>582003620
>people seem to have no problem with them

insane take
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>That philosophy could have a major impact on The Last Titan, especially with Blizzard already experimenting with Heroic World Tier in multiple formats. Ion said that Blizzard “would like to offer something like [Heroic World Tier] in The Last Titan, for people who want a more challenging, rewarding outdoor experience … as well as more friction, and more purpose

They need to realize that these solo modes have to nerf tank spec damage and self-healing by 50% otherwise they're the de facto way to do the content while everyone else is miserable.
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.Ruby Whelp Shell – Frequency of all effects increased by 100%. All damage reduced by 42%. Single target healing effect increased by 37%. Multi-target healing increased by 5%. Stat effects reduced by 50%.

any americans here tried this yet
how is it
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>>582003493
allied races are great.
you should be more mad about the nu*tral races. they literally fuck up the entire game. i'll even take elf or tauren or orc reskins.
only "unique" allied race we got was vulpera.
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do you have to do twin fangs in a skip run or what??
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>>582003984
no only can go directly to coiled
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Why is my warband bank unavailable?
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Bro all the tbc guilds are dead lmao can't even pug
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>>582002786
Yet
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craptoilet craptoilet
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>>582004340
guh...
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>>582003734
Less dps than guillotine
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>>582004340
Tails ruin them honestly
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>>582000345
femthyr's i'll believe but don't fib about the rest
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>>582005302
who hasn't seen femthyr's butthole?
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>>582005565
*raises paw*
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>>582005565
anyone who hasn't asked i guess
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When are they going to gut ulatek? Can't get into any groups even with aotc and good logs
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>>581998630
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>>582005838
are you on a meme spec or something?
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>>582005838
hopefully the forever hype killing retail engagement will force them to fold and just neuter it

never fucking do this "please raid uwu" design for a patch again ion, fucking moron
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>>582006382
No

>>582006401
Yeah the barren hof will be funny to see
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When can I playa munggie...?
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>>582006969
That's sneed
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>>582005838
>refuses to actually engage with the content or other players, just wants to blast through without effort
>wonders why Forever is winning and will continue to win while retail inevitably folds
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So did we like the raid or nah? I'm unsubbed but I heard people hyping it up as the best raid they've done since it's built from the ground up with no addons.
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>>582004260
Gotta restore all the items they accidentally wiped oops guy who usually checks on that moved to Forever sorry
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>>582007709
It's a cool but they fucked the loot so much everyone hate the raid and the season.
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>>582007734
So my 100k gold is just gone indefinitely?
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>>582007709
The raid isn't bad but it's stupidly overtuned and they put all the good loot in it so it pissed off non-raiders.
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>>582006832
idk man i killed on my main 3 weeks ago, don't even need to bonus roll it now, and i got into chang's skip run on my rat fdk 30 minutes ago
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>>582007907
Your 90k gold?

We are aware of the issue and are working on restoring your 80k gold.

Your 70k gold will be restored to your account's Warbank shortly.

Due to an unforseen error, your 50k gold has been lost due to server problems.

Please accept this 20k gold as consolation for our error.

*5k gold is deposited into your now empty Warbank"
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man why the fuck those niggers didn't buff hpal in raid
how the fuck they buff rdruid meanwhile hpal's 4p literally doesn't do anything in raid
i really need to start playing something else shit feels bad
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>the most basic wow hunter fantasy is a guy with a ranged weapon and a pet
>MM doesn't use a pet
>BM uses 2 pets
>surv uses a stick
Honestly kinda funny. It's like if the only way for warrior to use 2h weapons was to dual wield them on fury.
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>>581998447
Jaina's gonna oneshot Xally's clit with her tongue, this WILL happen, TRUST!
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>>582008614
MM can use a pet
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>>582008732
Yes but it doesn't because it's bad.
BM can also choose to use 1 pet but it's not viable.
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i caught exploding ass disease
24 hours to live
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>>582008614
literally me on the right after we wipe 100th to ppl not looking at the ghosts on altar prog
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>>582009050
ass transplant
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>>582009078
they cant find a donor even close to my size
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are we cemented?
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I got the ulatek trinket and it's completely broken wtf
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>>582009403
fag
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bonus rolled belt and the font trinket
well at least i got mazedroa yesterday
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>>582010257
>font
OH NO NO NO HAHAHHAHAA
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fucking maintenance
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how longs this maint gonna be
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>>582010620
?
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>>582010827
1 hour
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>>582010827
10 hour
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>>582010827
100 hour
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>>582010897
okay
>>582010927
fuck
>>582010979
STOP
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would you say

ten million hours?
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bros...all the hot women are playing wow forever instead of retail? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? WE HAD FOID WRITERS WHY WON'T THEY STAY FOR ARATOR AND HIS FAMILY? UWU THINK OF ALLERIA AND TURALYON PLEASE DON'T LEAVE TO WOW FOREVER
>>
this nigga been posting the same exact banal bait for 20 hours not one (you) and he keeps going
gotta respect the hustle
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>>582011295
thats just the forever general in a nutshell
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>>581998950
Speak for yourself faggot I like classic leveling
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>>581998950
It used to be fun before everything scaled.

I unironically used to level characters through dungeon and battleground spam. Now battlegrounds if you're not level cap are literally completely dead and impossible to find matches for because of how much they ruined them
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>not one ounce of new voice acting full dialogue
They cheapened the fuck out lmao
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>>582009403
Rape.
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who are the current kings of /wowg/? I haven't been here in 2 years
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I've lost interest in raidlogging in retail :\ I think I'm going to go play forever instead fuck retail bros...
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>>582012161
huns
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>>582012161
no one, theres like 4 people left and threads go for 24 hours
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>>582011295
hes been doing it since blizzcon unironically
he is literally a jeet too
he posted a panel of videos from 'tube and all the titles were in hindi, insta deleted, and reposted in english, not before someone screenshotted it tho
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>>582012753
wish I could say I'm surprised
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>>582012753
pot, kettle
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>>582012513
do people here still interact with each other in game?
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>>582007939
>they put all the good loot in it
Why is this a bad thing? If you aren't raiding you don't need the best gear.
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>>581906560
>21 hours ago
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>>582012919
personally I don't care but mazers get real pissed if you tell them they have to raid to get the best gear
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>>582012907
>>582013019
The raidtrannies can't even kill the last 2
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>>582011065
Newfaggots not knowing the rules when this gets posted makes me sad
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>>582012919
>>582013019
because the options from the dungeons and crafting are painfully inferior
its awful
t. has all the raid shit so don't @ me bitches
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>>582003493
>the only worthwhile one they added
>nightborne
If one single allied race was worthwhile it was Darkie Dwarves.
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>>582012907
the red dragon sometimes hosts tournaments
that's about all i see
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>>582013317
No because they are a shitty allied race, they should be a customization options
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>>582012907
Not after all the doxxing that went on because of petty jealous schizo retards incapable of making friends having to ruin the fun for everyone
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>>582013424
>no because they're a shitty allied race
>even though they're better than 90% of them
average nigborne enthusiast
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>>582013609
You're the only talking about nightborne.
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>>582013019
Its about needing to do another game mode to get the best gear in your gamemode of choice. Blizzard figured this out long ago with pvp gear coming from pvp. Its way better that way.
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>>582013836
10 seconds without the nightwell and you develop alzheimers. Sad!
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>>582013949
A third mention huh
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>>582012161
femthyr
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>>582012161
They're all filthy traitors leaving for Forever anyway, who cares.
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>>582012161
Gay centaur poster
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scrolling Tik Tok
WoW forever paladin game play has 1 million views

Random ass youtubers are getting huge views like its legion

What the fuck is happening?
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>>582014585
Literally everyone has millions of views on TikTok, it's all algorithm bait manipulated by Chinese.
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>>582014585
>why is the biggest MMO in history announcing a new mega nostalgia version getting a lot of attention?
gee anon I dunno
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>>582014585
This is how wow was during legion.
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>>582014423
Except trollanon, he's chosen to not leave his cuck chair
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>>582014585
>>582014757
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>>582015321
I never got the point of them they never say anything useful just toxic positive everything is a 10/10 with zero pushback.
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>>582015506
it's fun to see tali strain under the pressure to keep the positivity up under insurmountable odds.
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>>582015506
free merchandise from blizzard
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>>582014585
>changes everything
No changes bros...
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g-guys its 754 posts we can make a new thread... if anyones here....

h-hello...?
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>>582015905
just let this place die already
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>>582016046

finally
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>>582016046
>>582016046
>>582016046
>>582016046
>>582016046
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>>582012161
Feng, Nowra, QTPanda, Nightkin, Huscle, Demonstrate, Wingthor, the list goes on...
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>>582012161
Feng, Nowra, QTPanda, Nightkin, Huscle, Demonstrate, Wingthor, the list goes on...
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>>582014585
>huge views
youtube is mainly from the view count change they did recently
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>>582014585
views can be bot, it's been seven years since classic, things have gotten a lot easier on that front, you can't be this dumb can you
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When a new expansion comes out, how many of you are like actually paying attention to story and text and dialogue and shit?

I find WoW so weird where one minute I hear someone say how much they'll love the world and then I hear so many others just say they skip everything



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