inv asmon layer edition>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release>Old>>581919520
Let's see how tanking is looking, my most favourite gameplay style.bears>dogshitwarriors>dogshitpaladins>having the best and easiest time tanking and threat managingi swear this class is never beating the allegationsevery time i see a paladin other than holy spec i instantly know they're either completely dogshit at the game or brown and the former is ALWAYS true after a while of playing with themcomplete retard and shitskin bait class, actualy 0 IQ required to tank with this safety wheels class and its gonna get WAY WORSE since Aggrend is a pally main
>>581931805>inv asmon layer editionNah man just nah
First for warlock is a shit class.
real thread here>>581931781>>581931781>>581931781>>581931781>>581931781
>>581931839>i swear this class is never beating the allegationsWe are a hero class
>what you think you are gettingNew specs! New classes! New content!>What you are actually gettingOne (1) sub level 1 item that "teases" a new spec but is unviable in all content without vastly our scaling itSoD-
boobanon please trample me like the pathetic paladin i am
>basedcaca op
>>581931954we all knew sod was a beta test for forever
We're so fucking back!
>>581931915Nah sorry we're here (You) lose
I AM A TAUREN
LOLOLOLOLOL get owned faggot
>>581932029>>581932023BASED
pls do the needful and join Asmon guild
>>581931839bro it's level 20 none of this shit matters. "prot" (actually holy for consecrate) paladin is better than prot warrior at level 20 in vanilla classic too
>>581931954Truth nuking esl
>>581931839Paladin tanking sucks though. The talents are awful with too many 5 point talents that are needed but kind of suck and having your taunt on judgement sucks.I'm not saying they are the worst numerically, but fun wise they suck dick.
>everyone already bored of the beta (excluding autists)>viewership tanked, nobody interested anymore>enjoy the journey they said while leveling is way too fast>blue items thrown at you from every angle>chinese bots everywhere>going to sell wow tokens by next year>all new content will be retail because nu-devs can't make anything else>retail-
Yordle-like race when?
Worst starting area?
>>581931998Yeah and forever is going to be sod- lmao>>581932112Best paladin tank is going to be
>>581932148Orcs, Trolls, Tauren are all shit
>I HAVE TO RESUMMON MY PET?>OH NO SAVE ME BLIZZARD MAN
not feeling retoilet- desu sempai
>Want to play a hybrid spellblade type of character>Only options are paladin/shaman >Been hearing bad things about their end gameHow bad is it really?
>>581932192>going to bedo you wake up in the morning feeling miserable
>>581932148unironically Tirisfal, it's overhyped and too edgy in a reddit way
>keep scouting guilds>all either have loot council that will inevitably give BiS to the "girl" who cant heal deadmines without 3 wipes>or sr/hr where the GM and their clique gets everything while everyone else gets scrapsand considering the OP guilds dont refute having either of these makes me think they are just gonna use competent anons to carry them
post her...
>>581932148nelves
>2 shaman>1 warrior>none of them interrupt the flamestrikes in deadmines despite pulling 2 casterfuck so many players are trash at this game
>>581932112Holy/Ret shockadin will be the best paladin "tank" build.Otherwise theyll have zero (0) threat.IYKYK.
>>581932148slopfal
>>581932282nah it's comfy
>>581932148Undead, the very first zone is not that bad but you want to go to kalimdor asap
>>581932148tauren no contest everything else is good compared to that dogshit faggot zone
>>581932279
>>581932148undead hands down
>>581932148night elves, fuck that shit holy hell
>>581932257He was too negative, candle aggrend got him.
>>581932380The forbidden orc/elf hybrid...
>>581932148Durotar, easily.
>>581932116>Max level is 20>shocked people have done everything in 5 daysIt's almost like there is only 10 hours worth of content available
>>581932013>streamerfaggingnah kys
>>581932073Nta, but you are a dumdum if you think aggrend is going to let paladins fall off at higher levels. The moment that fat fuck nootices that his class isn't the very best he's going to buff it the following day.
>>581932380whoever was responsible for this i genuinely hope they never see employment again
>>581932583Can't see shit
>>581932271<wowfg> is a no discord, no guild bank, no loot council guild>the OP guilds dont refute having either of these makes me think they are just gonna use competent anons to carry themFrom my experience, 4chan guilds work because they attract neets that play the game a lot, which lead to them having good gear and do good damage even if they're bad at the game
>>581932541danuser is not with blizzard anymore
>>581932307>IYKYK.not a knower, explain pls
>>581932148dwarves were my least favourite. But even then it's completely fine.
>>581932657And that's unironically a good thing.
>>581932029agp coded
>>581932290I'm defense of myself, my shield bash equipment macro doesn't want to work properly so that's why I don't interrupt those oftenShamans have no excuse though
>>581932434you have no soul
levelling fast is easy with RestedXP guides! you DID buy your quest helper addon, right anon?
Is the "new" battleground in the beta already? I see it in the group finder, but haven't bothered to try it.
>>581932661if thats all true yall sound cool but>smelly horde playersdamn shame
Thoughters ?
>>581932778Can't fucking wait for my chat to be full of these messages on launch...
>>581932778how do i do this?
>>581932778>buy>restedxpl m a oooooo
>>581932116The full game needs to launch with turtle mode. Half levelling speed for gibs was really important to turtles culture
>>581932778that is cheating and exploiting, you know what to do with this punk fellas
>>581932778Wtf is a restedxp guideWhy wouldnt i just do quests and kill mobs and get xp withouta guide
>>581932148elwyn forest and darnassus
>HIGHHER quality>HIGH HEEEER QUALITYBRO STFU
>>581932583now thats a spooky forest at night
>>581932192>Best paladin tank is going to beI hope enough people complain so atleast they change the taunt. But half the talents suck, holy shield sucks, templar's bulwark sucks but at least it's a defensive CD, one hand spec sucks instead of working like in TBC....They should give them another way to taunt (make seal of fury's judgement slow attack speed or whatever), move holy shield up in the tree and fix it and have the last talent be something interesting, like allowing exorcism to work on everything.
any wowfg alliance bros?where are we dropping? pvp/pve?
watching asmon vods and levelingcomfy
>>581933000elwyn is for white men
>>581932778This fucking sucks so damn much. I wish Blizz just outright banned each and every single addon. In fact, they should monitor your internet usage while you're logged in and permaban you if they detect that you're on WoWhead or looking up a guide.
>>581932256shaman will be needed in every raid just for windfury totem.
>>581933000elwynn is awesome man what do you mean? the worst thing about its quest is 1(one) time where is wants you to run from the lumber mill to goldshire and back otherwise questing there is smooth sailing
>>581933114Why would anyone do PVE
>>581933161this but unironically
>>581933208more trannies & bio women
>>581933208more funno asmon bullshit
>>581932148dun moroghI can't article why either, I just don't like it
>>581932717Nah don't care for that at all
>>581932725the warrior is the tank, using a shield
>>581933161I don't know how restedXp isn't banned. It charges money for it to be functional and it's a direct violation of ToS.
>>581933304>more fun>missing half the game (pvping)????
>>581932148Durotar and mulgore worstNelf and human best
>>581933120this except graysfordays
>>581933114RPgonna make me a human mage and name like one of the random archmage names in W3
>>581933114PvE I don't want to deal with gank bullshit
>>581933352nobody fucking cares about pvp besides 0.1%
>>581933325I don't use a shield I just tank that shit with a 2h
>>581933341Report it with information on how it breaks tos
>>581932954>acting superioreven downloading that addon makes you a soulless husk of a man
Quest Givers on the map removes ALL the soul.
>>581933352If I want to pvp I can just press the BG button
>>581932661Raids have weekly lockouts so it doesn't matter if you no life the game, retard.
>>581933319sure you dont girli hope ur locked up
>>581933141not really. white men already have castles and forests like this in their own country. they dont need to larp being white in a video game.
>>581933408im saying whoever buys restedxp is a cumslurping fag
>>581933392You never have been a part of a large alliance v horde battle (you have no friends)
>>581933392then why are pvp servers always more populated? Curious
>>581932876
Fuck addons, are there any written guides that simply list all the quests and where to start them?
RP-PVP > PVP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RP
>>581933437Fuck that gay shit. Sissies need to let it hang free like God intended
>>581933478>>581933526>game with dungeons and raidsRetards
>>581933352>missing half the game (pvping)The most fun part of pvping is available on pve realms (bgs). World pvp is 99% ganking low level players. I know everyone has the fantasy of huge battles or balanced fun skirmishes in the open world but that's not how it works most of the time. Most of the time is a level 60 one shotting you while you level, and maybe two people fighting over a mining node.
>>581932508It’s almost like the game is fucking dogshit reheated retail leftovers
>>581933545Forever has an inbuild quest helper.Available quests are marked with a yellow exclamation mark.
>>581933472and I'm saying anyone who pirates it is exactly the same
>>581933426>reaching max level, professions, mount+training, gold for skills+mount, consumables, rep+pvp grinds, flight paths, legacy points and having pre-bis is nothing broshutup retard
>>581933627>He gets oneshot by a level 60Dont be trash at the game?
>No option for unhunched orcGame dropped
Ok /wowfag/, what new spec ideas do you wanna see?Not necessarily a 4th spec like the guardian/feral split, but new builds and playstyles from deep capstone talents and the like.>Melee "Spellsword" mage>Dodge tank Rogue>Enhancement "Enhance yourself to be TANKY" Shaman>Bring back Gladiator Warrior, we have ZERO sword and board dps classes>Melee Survival Hunter
>>581933587if god didnt want sissies locked up he wouldnt have made chastity cages
>>581933627I can do world PVP and battlegrounds though because I'm not a shitter
>>581932148i like how no one said the new zone because no one even played it. also i like how i was repeatedly told >it's not a $60 beta because you get the retail elves (that no one gives a shit about) for $30.consoomers.
>>581932657Get glasses maybe?
>>581933569there will never be another grobb
>>581933623what % of people in vanilla actuality did raids? Curious
>>581933685He also made chainsaws but that doesn't mean he wants them to chop their dick off
>>581933730i paid 10 australia bux
>>581933635How does this relate to raid loot distribution?You really are mentally challenged.
Is WoWhead under like strict orders from Blizzard to be absolutely dogshit for this beta or what is going on? Literally any other site is better for finding things than WoWhead right now.
i think i missed some quests
>>581933682they said they are not doing that ; that's what classic + was for
>>581933723>>581933663I hope you have fun in your pvp realm.
>>581933627>World pvp is 99% ganking low level players.I played classic pvp back in 2019 and I got ganked like twice. The fuck are you guys doing?
>>581933873I will
>>581933682>Ok /wowfag/, what new spec ideas do you wanna see?Gunslinger rogue.
>>581933791because if loot council or sr/hr work as they should without corruption then the players who have invested more time to be a larger factor in raid success should get the loot they wantretard
>>581933871this is classic+ sir, they use the term interchangably for forever
>>581933847100% the troons who run wowhead hate the idea of forever so aren't working on it (or maybe they've already topped themselves)
>>581933847they just release info slowly in separate articles for more clicks
How are tanks and healers in 1v1 wpvp in classic and forever?
>>581933889>The fuck are you guys doing?They get ganked once and seethe so much they convince themselves it happens all the time.
>>581933850Can you leave this area without doing any quests? I might go level in the undead zone on release. Also, are there any good items for warriors exclusive to this zone, like the druid idol?
>troonsWhat the fuck is up with some people
My wifey got lost but thankfully one of her friends was kind enough to bring her back home. Must've been a long walk since she seems really tired!
>>581932148it's going to be Tirisfal for me after I play it at launch because Death Knell is so tiny it's going to be hard to get mobs, even just for grinding.If it's a normal run without 10 players per mob, new Tirisfal is my favorite and Durotar is the worstTirisfal is much, much better and faster with the new quests. I was just leveling in it and I did a circuit of quests and turned in 12 at the same time, it felt like I was in Un'goro
>>581934072BAAAAAAAAAASED
>>581933847They probably just wait for other people to find shit and then copy them. They got the advantage of everyone knowing the site so they will get a lot of views even if they are late
>>581934021Just like any other expansion the tanks are either dogshit terrible or they are unkillable and the healers are unkillable cancer that require 20 stacks of dampening. Expect the "beta duel tournament" that streamers are hoping to be won by a disc priest or some gay shit.
>>581934049yeah you can do the reverse too
>>581933526so people can say they are hardcore, when in reality the server is 99:1
>>581934148So I should just gank as a healer then if I want to win most solo ganks?
>>581934021it depends on many thingscheck this out for exemple, druid defeats a rogue while AFK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_v3UZO6OkQ
>>581934072why is he pregnant with her child?
>>581933627ain't nobody ganking low level players lmao that ain't funinstead of feeling frustrated when you get ganked by a high level you should be laughing at them because they're 12 and retardedbut you choose to run away cuz you're a fucking moron and a pussy
>>581933871For launch yes. In the longer run they probably do want to explore those options given the way they've kept things like parry chance, dodge chance, survivability etc. in the shaman and rogue talent trees. >"It's one of those things—it's in the name, it's forever, we can do a lot of things over years, but we wanted to start from a place where the soul of the class is very coded and original WoW-centric">"But there's still meaningful changes and really exciting ways to play your class … But some of the Warlock tank, Shaman tank, not quite yet? But never say never, y'know." Those "meaningful changes" probably refer to things like melee survival hunter, given that there WERE survival melee abilities and talents in vanilla, even if they werent very good. And potentially things like a melee mage because its still a DPS mage just with a different way to play, to try and differentiate specs a bit better.My guess is they're aiming for full refined nostalgia for launch, and then slowly dole out the "new" stuff as Forever goes off on it's own tangent. They've already hinted about a new class.
blue or fleshy skelves?
>BUT BLUE ELVESIts literally the exact same in TBC in shatYou just couldnt choose to play one of the elves
>>581933847wowhead was sold to chinks and they fired the majority of their staff, shit is mostly written by AI
>>581934295zoomers and gen alpha are obsessed with mpreg for some reason
On PvE server do you get tagged for PvP in enemy capitals or are guards your only worry?
>>581934034>>581933889You were not playing when phase 2 launched or somehow forgot how people were getting farmed and how some of the pvp servers became mono-faction. I was playing alliance on a pvp server and horde DISAPPEARED from my server.
>get done with Asmon's vod>"HELL YEAH I can finally get to the undercity raid LETS GOOOOO!!!">mfw there's another vod before thatI mean it's good that I have more to watch but I finally want to get to that part. It will be kino
femsaken's piss
>buffs you on your travels
>>581934306>It never happened>Actually it happened but you are a pussy if you don't like itIf you are retarded just say so, it's faster.
>>581933889I got ganked a bit more than twice, but 90% of the time it was in blackrock mountain trying to get into an instance. Out it the world it was pretty rare to ever get ganked. Most of the time if I ran into somebody on the other faction we'd both decide it was less effort to just keep doing our quest and leave each other alone
>>581931839>sonydigital and kungen both going pally main warrior sissies.. it's over..
>>581933962>>581934315Hate to break your copium but can't have horizontal progress and give new specs, spells, etc to the characters.
>be me leveling in tbc on arugal (pvp server back in tbc classic)>late to the party>for some reason in zangar or hellfire there are 70's running around, presumably for mining/herbing>they see me in the low 60s and just global me>corpse running for days>most of the time they don't hang around but sometimes they linger to kill me again for whatever reason>get to nagrand>doing the quest to kill all the big game animals>70 rogue opens up on me while i'm at like 50% hp>just die and run back>he's there again>kills me and i run back again>this time he waits like 10 seconds for me to heal and opens up again>i try to fight him but he's literally using every trick in the book to kill me>stutter stepping and strafing, deadzoning my intercept, instantly wotf my fear, you get the idea>no idea why he's doing this because i literally stand no chance>die and rez in a bush so i can try to hearth>he spots me straight away and kills me>get up to take a shit and make a coffee>20 minutes has gone by, surely he's fucked off by now>nopeyou'd have to pay me to play on a pvp server again
>>581932674can't imagine they fired him, did someone lure him away with a ham sandwich?
>>581934504>I was browsing shit on 2nd monitor and now you are out of spell range so can't buff you back:(
IHATEWALKINGGIVE ME A FUCKING MOUNT HOLY SHIEEEEEEEET
>>581934584>tbcwpvp in tbc is godawful thanks to flying
>>581932117Unfortunately they decided to give us blue Blood Elves instead of Goblins.
>>581931839what about shadman tanking?
just started classic wow forever or whatever the fuck its called and its just walkingliterally just walkingquest says go kill 10 boars so i walk for 20 minutes find the boars kill them walk 20 minutes back turn it in then the next quest is on the other side of the zone so i walk againno mounts no nothing just pure uncut walking simulator with a fantasy skinbeen playing 4 hours and my character has traveled more miles than i have in real life this yeareveryone on these boards talking about peak gameplay and immersion and all i feel is my knees starting to ache from all the imaginary hikingis this the game or did i download a medieval step counter by accidentnew player btw still level 8 and already considering just afking in the inn until someone carries me because the alternative is more walking
>>581932674>Steve Danuser, also known as Moorgard, is a senior game designer and lead narrative designer for World of Warcraft. He is also the author of two World of Warcraft stories. He has previously worked on Landmark, EverQuest Next, Copernicus, Kingdoms of Amalur, and EverQuest 2.WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE EVERQUEST PEOPLE
>>581934584No dude, you know that thing that happened to you and to a lot of people and that is referenced in a thousand memes and posts and that it's well documented in thousands of videos, forums and population counts? It actually never happened.
>>581934694Reddita
>>58193462020 more levels, and even then make sure you saved up enough money for a mount.>>581934642forever devs better not crack and add flying. At the time in 2007 adding flying seemed like the next natural step and the coolest shit ever. But in truth it was the absolute worst mistake blizzard made in regards to the game.
keep making warrior seem bad so nobody will play it but me and i can get my deathbringer uncontested
>>581931839warrior tanking is fineTClap scales, rend scales, shield slam hits like a truck, revenge hits like a truckpally and druid might have better aoe buttons but warrior tabbing around maintaining threat is going to be much better overall
>>581934762deathbringer is trash
>>581934616It's okay anon, I-I-It's not like I wanted your buff or a-anything!
>>581934584>ArugalTheres your problem lmao. Australias worst all crammed into that server.Shoulda played on yojamba where it was chill.
speaking of that stupid ass faggot, where's nathanos in vanilla
>check wowhead spell lists for clsses>all have SoD runesdid wowhead just port the 1.13 db over to forever or will we be getting SoD shit?
>>581934846isn't the fag standing around in the plaguelands or something
There aren't gonna be Warrior tanks because tanking before level 50 is completely retarded, slow and cucked. It is always going to be faster for a Warrior to quest unless you have a premade 5 stack of gamers. People are too retarded and slow for pugging to ever be viable.
They should add outlands later and make it where if you do all quests in a zone you get an extra talent point
>>581934804>rend and tclap scaleSource? What's the numbers on it?
>>581934584rogue players will do shit like this and then cry when every class and race is given counters against thenmaybe you rogue mains shouldnt have been the biggest homos in gaming for 20 years
>>581934762it might be bad at max level but it's certainly not bad at leveling any more (though this was always a meme to an extent) only gotten to 11 on mine but questing so far has been a breeze and it's been easier than both my hunter until pet and my priest until wand
>>581934315Won't changing the talent trees dramatically invalidate the existing gear players have obtained and therefore make the progression no longer horizontal? How would they update old raids to include the new specializations gear? They would have to completely change exisiting items to support the new gear requirements.
>>581934834I wanted to but all my friends wanted to be on Arugal. They all managed to get on just before the queues really blew up to hours and made characters whereas I was trying to convince them to roll on Yojamba because there was basically new queue at the time. They didn't relentBest part is they didn't even make it to phase 2 before getting bored and quitting, leaving me on the server that had Horde majority. Phase 2 made me quit until TBC
I really think respecs in a beta should be free.
>>581934996>Source? What's the numbers on it?playing the gameI have no idea what the numbers are they seem decent>>581934936dungeon quests are too efficient and the gear significantly increases leveling speedthere is a massive difference in leveling with thrash blade and leveling without it
>>581934820trash this *blows your ass to smithereens with dual 2.9 speed axe whirlwinds*
>>581934936I mean if you're shit at it, yeahNot doing each dungeon at least once to get all the quests and pick up blue loot would be a mistake
>join dungeon group>people on other side of Azeroth>they start moving after party fills
>>581934936there is gonna be a tank and healer shortage anyways because the 6 million paladins will rather wait 2 hours for an invite then play tank or healer
>roll hunterIt’s alright>want to roll DruidEveryone says they’re shitWhy can’t druids decent at all specs? As the true hybrid class it shouldn’t be this hard to make all their specs viable
>>581934751>50goldREEEEE
>>581934804>TClap scales, rend scalesThey absolutely do not scale. The tooltips are flat damage amounts and do not have any modifiers for weapons or stats.
>>581935012You design the talents around the gear, not the other way around.You wouldn't invent a new spec that specifically needs a stat that doesn't exist. Thats what Gacha slop does because they introduce the new gear with the stat in the same patchYou design the new talents around stats that already exist. Its not that complicated
>skyborne campaign end isnt even voiced
>>581934098Based on what?https://litter.catbox.moe/m38plt.jpg>>581934295Nobody is pregnant wdym?https://files.catbox.moe/5j9add.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/5o8339.jpg
>>581935189maybe try leveling a warrior
>>581935034Yojamba was horde majority too, but 85% of the sweatiest and angriest bogans were on Arugal.It was actually mildly shocking to see how much worse the Arugal crowd was when we all got dumped into battlegrounds together.Yojamba died sooner sure but it made it past Nax. It was about as close to the vanilla experience as was possible, just the perfect amount of populated (by modern standards). Still had no problem finding a competent guild to clear the raids, and do a bit of world pvp when I felt like it.Sucks to be you man
>>581934660>take this talent that increases dodge by a whopping 6%>take this talent that increases threat by 30%>this somehow means you are ready to tankror rmao
When Forever actually launches, should I level one character to 60 or should I start leveling 4 characters evenly?
>>581935163no one knowsthe game literally isn't out yet
>>581935012>>581935216Also how would introducing new stat requirements different to existing stats halt horizontal progression? Wouldn't collecting a new gear set with different stats.... be horizontal progression? They key is "different", not stronger.Like if Rogues had to start stacking stamina instead of agi. They would be running the same content, just collecting stamina leather gear (druid gear?) instead of agi leather gear. Thats horizontal, not a new tier of vertical progression chasing bigger numbers
Why are the 3 clothy classes so underplayed on horde compared to alliance? Not they are particularly popular on alliance either.
>>581935179>50ganon, its not going to be TBC prices
fellow transistershow we feelin
>>581933672Really, what the fuck were they thinking with that hunch?
>>581935361we get all the alt gibs so on character to 60 first seems best
>>581935361the first raid is a month after release, you have to lock in a bit to get a character to 60 in a month first
>>581934579>but can't have horizontal progress and give new specs, spells, etc to the charactersWhy is that?
>>581935406My guess is it's because they look only good if you're playing as a girl but horde only has ugly races
Has Blizzard made any comment yet about SD models for Skyborne and newer gear?
>>581935406no pretty skybelf priest for horde so that's a one.
>>581935406casters kinda got gutted and sissydins buffedthanks fatgrend
why does my skelf look like she's shitting when she heals
>>581934936I used Glider to auto level my warrior at the end of Vanilla. Holy shit playing a warrior 1-60 is so fucken ass. You die to any two mob pull. The best part was being completely shit as a warrior at 60 because I never played it, then becoming the best geared tank on my server because nobody wanted to tank. lol
>>581935406this is level 20s only on the PvE server and it was done with /who which has always been very flawed doing stuff like this and it's a beta so people are trying the new shit>why are there so many hunters on allyhuman hunters>why are there so many priests on allygnome priestsuse your brain
>>581935525Because this game is for scatchads
>>581935406It’s a beta, most people are trying out new stuff instead of what they’re maining on release
>>581935406>trusting a vibe coded addon to be accurate>only took data once at some random point of day>beta means people are testing different classes so it doesn't even reflect what the actual server will be likeShit data by an underage vibe coding faggot
>>581935406>warrior not the most played classwe did it xisters. we wonned the classic+forever!
>>581934751They already said no flying ever. Thats what flight paths are for.>>581935179>>581935414They said they are making riding training more expensive and mounts cheaper. The mount shouldn't be the expensive investment in their eyes, the training to unlock the skill should be.
>>581935406No mage, lock, or priest elves on Horde. No one wants to play a dress wearing bony bitch or dress wearing zug.
>>581935557No saar you can't use critical thinking. Just look at the raw beta numbers saar!
>>581935519Mages did get nerfed yeah but warlocks actually got some pretty absurd buffs.
Is there any news if the Skyborne will become free later down the line? Or forever 30 USD?
>>581935406any reasons why locks are the least played?
>>581935591just wait until the sims predict fury being top dps by 4 % in full t3
>>581932661>From my experience, 4chan guilds work because they attract neets that play the game a lot, which lead to them having good gear and do good damage even if they're bad at the gameso true. the 4chan guilds on pservers were so good they couldn't clear half of the raids in vanilla.
>>581935406mages aoe was nerfed into the ground
>>581935689forever 30 usd bc ur gay
>>581935414>anon, its not going to be TBC prices>>581935602mount is 5g riding is 50g
So far I've been reading every quest I get. It's sovl.
>>581935602>The mount shouldn't be the expensive investment in their eyes, the training to unlock the skill should be.That's because you get mounts from store and buying spechul pack.
>>581934410>You were not playing when phase 2 launchedOh I was. I played Alliance on the infamous Flamelash server. If you don't know the lore, it was the server where the first of the many mass migrations happened.
How do you reserve the name? I know reservations open on the 27th but how will it be done?
>>581935461You mean the legacy points? I bet it's faster to get 4 characters to 25 for 4 points than to get one to 60 for 3 points
>>581934219Anniversary has forced faction balance lilbro, take your old data elsewhere
Do you guys reckon wow Forever will have a better story than what Retail has had?
>>581935602>the training to unlock the skill should be.correct but the total cost of the level 40 mount was moved down from 100g to like 60g, to level 30 from 40. The costs will probably be split with the same training to mount ratio but its probably going to be 100g total, not the reduced cost tbc 60g
Taking away raw power from characters putting it into gear feels…. Wrong.
got it
>>581935785You expect a blizzard employee to give you the answer here?
>>581935809is leveling that the only thing that gives points?
>>581935831why would it?
>>581935678warlock could always do amazing stuff at lvl 20 and succubus was always giga fucking good at lvl 20, most people were just retarded and used blueberrywhat matters is the base damage of spells being nerfed by 80% at lvl 60 meaning all casters will be even more unviable at lvl 60 than in classic
>>581935798the dead elf wagon will always make me laff
>>581935716Cone of Cold was too, right? And some other stuff too?
>>581935724> Blizzard charging 30 USD only to gaysSis, in just a year you're going to have an official pride parade in Forever Ironforge. Don't get so uppity.
>>581932778Any messages like these will be against TOS on the RP realm so I will simply report those players :)
>>581934584>camp some shitter until they log off>"I only had 2 hours to play and this rogue RUINED my night"LOL. I enjoy camping.
>>581935831>better storywith TBC not happening Kael and Vash'j arent getting the villain bat so its already better.>>581935785Best guess is you just make the character you are going to use but you cant log in.
>>581935357Uncapped fire nova aoe!!
>>581935831>do you reckon this will have better story than chasing feet fetish lady for a decade?I wonder.
>>581935905You only ever got the blueberry out if you were fighting elites and you wanted to be a bit safer/slower.Succubus all the way to 60 while you draintank. Bring the imp out of dungeons.
>>581935834they said mount costs would be tbc why are you immune to information
>people already figured out how to aoe solo farm ruins of lord at level 20
>>581935831it's already worse with skyborne
>>581935525If you look like that when you're shitting then I think you should go to the doctor anonIts not meant to hurt every time to the point you have to grimace
Would you join?
>>581935925>Ironforgeretail gay pride event is horde only althoughbeit
Which class if I want to be the PVP ganker raping lowlevels
>>581935996where did they say that? All i saw was "Increased mount costs"
>>581935557This, man /wowfg/ is fucking retarded.
>>581935813it can be forced faction all it wants, but unlike sod theres no level gating, so as soon as the poopsockers make their way to 60 first its over for the dads who thought they do but really dont
>>581935885Professions to 150/225/300 also do but I'm sure those are faster to get to 150 too while leveling alts than to get one to 300. There are also some for doing all dungeons or something, they should all be on wowhead
>>581935905>base damage of spells being nerfed by 80%Source?
>>581935995imp in dungeons was such a scrub play when succ outdamaged it massively and never oomed
>>581934660That's sod schizo babble garbagerino, never to be in forever sorry!Sod is over there.
>>581932148night elves purely for that dogshit bogling root quest and the barrow den
>>581936065nelf hunter
>>581936116Shitty tanks needed all the help they could get from frie shield.Also some faggots would screech if you didn't bring the imp because they thought you would aggro shit. I did bring the succ out sometimes though, definitely in a double warlock group.
>>581932661>truewindBRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP
>sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades>5 paladins charge in>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior>orcs head explodes>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power>one shots the trans shamman>gnome priestess is saved>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe.">"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking">she nods>how can i ever repay you>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought>light be with you, and kings honor>Christ is king
Azeroth beckons us back. To home. To adventure You will pay for your sub. Forever.
>>581935831>nu-blizz making good storieslol, lmao
>>581935831yes, but that is a low bar and doesn't say muchOne of the bigger reasons why retail story is so shit is the huge inflation of stakes given that we were beating muh lovecraftian horrorgods to death with sticks and axes pre 2008 already
inv asmon layer
No priest for Skelfs is so fucking bullshit, bros... give me blood elf you hacks
>>581936248>bro wants to be a sissypriest
>>581936205Can't wait to get a server away from you amerishits
>>581936207id suck her gock
>>581933682Lol delulu
>>581936205I'm going to roll orc and rape female gnomes solely because of this post
me when i enter felwood
>>581936201literally no one has ever asked me to use imp, at most retards were asking why didn't I sac the succ (even at low levels lol)
>>581936045i'd join any sexy troll man's company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWQZq4KcFjw
>>581936273Yeah thank God.
>>581936207they look like sex but also bad body odor
>>581935831Well it can't be worse, lets leave it at that.
>>581936272Yes, unironically.>get to help people>extremely high demand for you>get to feel like like a good sissyIt's great. Priest is the best class in WoW for anyone enlightened.
>>581935696locks are a cucked class. level to 60 to be a curse of elements bitch for the mages, a healthstone and summon bitch for the whole raid, and a soulstone bitch for the healers/tanks.the 'cool' part of warlock that people buy into isn't being a group support. if the closet and the raid wide healthstone summon were in it might be more popular though. but that is too much for classic so warlock is too much to ask for someone to play in classic.
>>581935406>paladins new for alliance so it makes sense for them to be so high>shaman new for alliance yet its very underplayedHuh?????
im in dalaranits like wotlks dalaranbut no mapand half the shops are opensick
>>581935996actually I decided to spend 2 minutes looking and theres an interview that said mount costs are 100 or 1000 depending on level.https://www.sportskeeda.com/mmo/news-they-might-reasons-welcome-forsaken-wow-forevers-kris-zierhut-michael-nuthals-visiting-gilneas-what-ifs-exclusive>. People are like, oh my God, you're selling gold. We're not. The new system for mounts is that when you buy the training, the training is the full first 100 or 1,000 gold depending on which level. And then you get your first mount for free after paying for the training.Why are you immune to doing any basic legwork?
>>581936369>I LOVE HEALING WITH A BUTTPLUG IN MY ANUS!!!
>>581936035what if I had taco bell
>>581936375no one wants to play dwarf
>>581936007The power of autism
>>581936435who said this i want to know
>>581936435hot
how do we feel about troll warlock
>>581936435Ew, no, butt stuff is gross, anonBut I will be thinking about cock while I'm healing
>alliance got dalaran>forsaken will get gilneasbased
>>581935552Based
New sim droppedUD is the best warlock race for both pvp and pve Get rekt gnome cuck
>>581936326I played sm/ruin because I had a corruption debuff slot in raids so no saccing pets.But yeah I legit remember people freaking out if I brought succ/felhunter. Some chode insisted I would be pulling ads with it and and had a 10 minute cry about it. Guess he had hunter ptsd. Succ even has invisibility lol
Is the legacy system in the beta?
>>581936370what if warlock will be better dps than mage at 60?
>>581936273Lmao, the torment might stop for a moment until you look into a mirror.
>>581936205HOLY BASED
>>581936062Did blizzard really put a gay pride event in retail????
>>581934936>he doesn't know the new warrior leveling meta is deep prot lmfao
>>581936375shamans suck, it's that simplewho wants to play an ooga booga totem class
>>581936624no the community didblizz just made it offical
>>581936624I didn't play retail and even I know of those yeah
>>581936553The racials seem incredibly poorly balanced
>>581936493Probably the least controversial new combo of all time.
>>581936508you won't get shit, mudhut nigger
>>581936624event was always community run for years. Blizz only just recently gave it "official" support by adding it to the calendar.
>>581936553So ToG was busted all along and all the naysayers talking about 20m ICDs were all retarded?
got my ultra strawberry dreams time to play some wow ;3333
>>581936624horde did their own community pride troll event for years, this year blizzard made it official but you still have to play horde to participate, which is funny as fuck
>>581936553>browns are already trying to find a way to minmax the most optimal race-class combinations before the game even releases
>>581936651>who wants to play an ooga booga totem classme
>>581936472>>581936007It's funny when retards honestly believe the cap of 4 killed aoe farm.Reality is going to hit hard when classes hit 60 and you'll see boosts/farm selling
>>581936553wooow who would have thought an additional lifesteal passive proc would be good for warlock NO WAAAY
>>581936205Is the dwarf holding a weapon? It looks like he's holding that hammer but its actually the human.
>>581936717grim
>>581936553don't care, still rolling fem human
Whats everyone drinking / doing while playing?>100mg thc soda
>>581935123that doesn't mean anyone is gonna tank on a Warrior. You do them once them never touch the dungeon again, even more reason to not tank.>>581935126No one said don't do dungeons.>>581935156yup.>>581935527You're supposed to use Sweeping Strikes. You're just new lol.>>581936649If you have a premade 5 stack, sure.This all reminds me of the bad reviews of this game I just read and every single review was a skill issue, like 90% of them. Skill and knowledge issue. I'm not even saying I'm the best Warrior player either.
>>581936553if Gnome gets nerfed UD is going to be on top for a lot of classesTotG is very strong
>>581936508>alliance got dalaranreally? the guards were hostile to my human when i was exploring. Is it something that will flip later? or is it only the back section of the city where the skelves land?
>>581936767>>581936683>>581936671Hahahaha what the fuck? Hahahahahaha
>>581936759caged & plugged i hope girlie
any ally rogues able to look into this?
the dungeons xp nerf is a good change but i will still miss tanking dungeon spam groups as arms warrior with ravager all the way from armory to brd
>>581936614damn maybe being a scandi isn't that bad after all
>>581936614Thank Gods germoids have tendency to self isolate into their own germoid circles and the rest of evrope rarely has to deal with them.
>>581936007Bug testing a beta bad, the question is how many finds bugs and doesn't report to abuse on live
>>581935270>maybe try leveling a warrior
>>581936901you have to do the dungeon to unlock it
>>581936789>brownsAnon, put on your glasses.
>>581936891>You do them once them never touch the dungeon againso the same as everyone else? there is no reason to do dungeons multiple times while leveling unless you are helping someone out
>>581936739Yes
>>581936957just use a flyhack
>>581935831Probably but not only is that not a high bar to achieve, with the timeline allegedly either not moving at all or moving very slowly, they aren't likely going to have major story beats with major characters so no chance at ruining them.
>>581936891>If you have a premade 5 stack, sure.Nope, solo leveling. No meme. no cap.
So now that we have rulesets, what will happen to the PvP one? Will alliance actually stick it out and keep playing and we finally have a 50/50 pvp harmony or will the entire pvp ruleset be horde only forever?
>>581936882>drinkingjust water>doingwriting applications and hanging out here inbetween
>>581937026>>581936994>>581936985>>581936982>>581936978>Dude weedAnything browner than this
I'm just gonna play Hunter. Again. For the 40th time. I can't stop myself. It's just the best for leveling, wpvp and 5 mans, the parts of the game that matter. Everything else is clunky and annoying.
>>581937021that makes sense i guess. How would you even get to the portal if the guards at the stairs in front are hostile tho?
>>581936651>>581936809us
>>581936046Asthma must not exist in Azeroth. All the fog naturally selected the asthmatics out.
>>581937078>wpvptrans
>>581936985no one with half a brain especially someone that spend time trying to figure out aoe farm will report that
>>581937026I don't need to use glasses though I have a perfect sight
>>581937078You do what you like anon. I'll just look down on you if we end up in the same dungeon groups.
Are there any weaponmasters in the Skelf starting zone?
>>581937078>5 mansWtf no it isn't. I'd only invite a hunter if my only other option was a dps warrior who refused to tank or some meme shit like oomkin
>>581936375Undead Paladin is a cool concept to a lot of people.
>>581936651>ooga booga totem class
>>581936120>Sod is over there.Where? It's literally gone. They took it out back a year ago
>>581936994not at my computer to mess with it but the numbers were higher than the tooltip so I assumed they were scaling
>>581937167sewers entrance
>My game now.
>>581937229I invite hunters to 5 mans because I wear cloth and stack my groups with non-cloth wearers.
View Distance being set higher literally renders everythjng outside of your areaIt basically turns off culling entirelyWho jeeted this
>>581936994it's over!!!
>>581936851He may be out of mana, but...
>>581936651But saar it has the most saved talent pages on this random site!
Redditors said shaman tank isn't viable but a level 20 shaman tanked my Hall of Thanes and it was super smooth. Bros can shamans tank?????????????
>>581937258Dwarven Shaman is a cooler concept for me personally but I'm glad to be the minority
>>581937292Or maybe the tooltip is just wrong.
>>581937229hunters are giga good 1-60 for dungeons
what's the fairest way to run a loot council?
>>581937309Good on him for losing weight.Unless he did it on GLP1s.
Alexensual runs this general.
>>581937403Fire nova is crazy, you'll be tanking if you spam it on cooldown whenever you want it or not.
>>581937403Shamans have always been kinda able to tank, they have rockbiter and earthshock for threat. 20 is overleveled for that dungeon too
>>581937403I tanked a troll cave for a gnome priest newbie last night. It was just level 8 questing shit, but gotta be honest tanking felt pretty natural using earth shock to taunt. It was a very smooth cave.
>>581937198I will gank you while you're at 50% HP with 2 mobs on you. Then camp you while I'm still in the area questing.>>581937221I'll be looking down on your corpse when the group wipes from an over pull but I just feign death and chill.>>581937229It's the best for ME. Like I give a shit about heckin minmaxxxxed dps in Maraudon.
>>581937482big loot for tanks and heals scraps for dps and you vill be appy
>>581932681Prot tree is really, really weak as >>581933046 said, as designed paladin threat is 60% consecration, 30% judgement, 10% whatever (holy shield is really poor threat/second), you can't judge on cd because judge is also your taunt with all that implies.Ret has int into sp which gives you more threat scaling and holy has another button you can press with a ton of free hit for your extra button and judgement.Prot tree needs a rework and a way to turn defensive stats into sp, the only thing you get out of blocking is pushing crushes off the table, which isn't that big a deal most of the time.
>supply crate wants 40 linen cloth>stacks only go as far as 20>can't fill it???
>>581937482Whoever cums first gets the items
>>581933730That's because the new zone is good. Besides the appearance of arab wind lord at the end
>>581936696it goes against all of troll ideology. all the cata race combos and after are all bs and have no flavor.
>>581937403even disc priest can tank at level 20, hunter bird pet can tank all of deadmines at level 20. nothing has ever mattered when you're sub-level 40 in wow, the first "real" dungeon is sm cathedral and even that you could make due with 4 dps and a healer easily
>>581937458that too
>>581937274Erm, wrong, you can log into sod right now chuddy.If you want new wweeeeird and whacky specs and classes play sod.
>>581932148Easily dwarves. Starts cozy in the snowy zone but then you get Lock Modan which is kinda meh but then Wetlands which just sucks lolCompare it to going through the Barrens or Elwyn/Westfall/Duskwood
>>581937649What are those even for?
>>581937616I'm on PVE sorry. You can't do shit :3 I play the game as it was originally intended. I'm on an adventure
>>581937531do we have al*x Kick snipers yet?
>>581937649Report it as a bug
>>581937462Was the class capable of being good in 5 mans? YesBut everytime you invited one there was a stupidly high chance that he was going fucking pull packs and agro with multishots, not manage their pet properly (leaving growl on the time time, not being mindful of its pathing) and roll on every piece of loot that dropped that wasn't expressly caster/healer gear.It's just not worth the gamble. If I knew the hunter, then all good man
>Humans have the most broken racials>Again
>>581936375I don't give a shit about shamans they look gay
>>581936957Its impossible to open atm, 100 is the max for lvl 20 and its red at 100
>>581937403Pretty sure if you got a healer specced healer you can go 4 dps 1 healer for almost all dungeons
>>581937403It can of course!>As long you over gear and level the content
>the human racial does the wotf sound+animation instead of a swirly ball
>>581936091Such a non issue. I've leveled only on pvp servers since 2006 and I can count on one hand the amount of times I've actually been camped. You just run away or now you can layer swap. A world without danger isn't a world at all
>>581936375apg sissies wont play dwarf (90% of alliance population)
>Classic andys are going in with retardation like "Ret paladins and boomkins aren't viable"It's classic plus you fucking retards. Meme specs are going to be god tier after #changes. Stay off of warrior so I don't get associated with you morons and can enjoy getting hipster points for sticking with the hard mode leveling.
>>581937786Haha that’s a good point. I think what usually happened was there was already like a hundred linen on the AH, so people just don’t post it anymore. So this literally won’t affect how much linen is available on the AH, and also won’t affect the price either.
>>581937862Based. That's the indomitable human spirit for you.
Is anyone else not getting certain sfx?
>>581937482skin color based discrimination
If I had a nickel for everytime a hunter jumped into the UBRS arena and pulled every fucking mob in the tunnel because they didn't unsummon their pet I could sub to WoW for at least 6 months.Shamans too
>>581937836that's why you go fast day 1-3 to filter out retardsif you go hard for 40+ hours on launch you'll literally only play with good players
>>581937795>I'm homosexual Noted.
>>581937482>best players of each class have a prio on bis items>worst players of each class have prio on items that are not bis
>>581936994jfc thats grim
snowmixy status????????????????????????????????????????
>>581937952there's botters that can fly across the world in a second and you can't peak past a single texture?
What's better for pvp? Fear/Charm removal or Stun removal?
>>581937862>orcs are still the best race as proven by anyone who actually understands the game>hordenigs still cry about gnome and human racials
>>581936375wow incarnation of shaman is kinda gay and cringe
>>581936994bodied that freak
>>581937729It goes against all of human and orc ideology too. Realistically even tauren and night elves should be able to be warlocks because the point of warlock is going against the normal ideology.
>>581937985>right click portrait>pvp>enablewhen and where i want
>>581937482have an inner circle that distributes loott. distributed all the melee loot
>>581937862Only one time did humans have the best racial for everyone, and that was pre nerfed every man for himself. And it was only good at pvp. Humans never even had the best dps racial, horde always had it. And the best PvP racials, horde always had everything good.
>start hunter What the fuck it's dogshit
>>581937786You fill the crate with one of the asked items and bring it to a camp in Razor Hill and get rewarded with tokens you can exchange for crafting recipes like mageblood elixir that gives mana regen.
Why do all horde starting zones suck?
>>581938167stuns are more common so stun removedjust think how many paladins there are going to be with their hammers of justice
WATAYA:>RACEAN>CLASSAN>LISTENAN>EATAN>DRINKAN>FEELAN
>>581938162Its probably a container and not a passage
>>581936375I ain't touching shaman unless they add the SoD tank shit for it
>>581938231>go to options>search for swing>enable swing timer>learn to kite mobs>level insanely fast and solo elites
Paladin and shaman were probably shit classes because they were faction specific. Alliance couldn’t be shamans, horde couldn’t be paladins. Their main gimmicks were burst damage and one shot combos, which was never really a competitive way to play. They weren’t even good healers either lol.
how long will it take for this game to die? 50% of the playerbase is just poser chuds acting like this game is some kind of political victory over the wokies
>>581938316>RACEANOrc>CLASSANMage>LISTENANIn-game music>EATANCalzone>DRINKANWhiskey>FEELANGay
>>581938385shaman was the best raid healer in the gamepaladin was the best tank healer in the game
>>581938420Pretty bored already tbqhf
I am the Beginning and the End.I am the Alpha and the Omega.I am the Day and the Night.I am the Good and the Bad.I am... protection warrior.
>>581937836>roll on every piece of loot that dropped that wasn't expressly caster/healer gear.you mean warriors?
so what names are you reserving? I'm going for Onefour Eighteight
>>581938256You can FAP out of stuns but not fears and charms right? I remember there was an actual reason why UD was so OP. Or it had to do with diminishing returns maybe, I can’t remember.
>>581938420the chuds are literally getting banned for shartpost names thoughbeit
>>581938238Are those tokens tradeable?
>>581938490I don't invite them either unless they will tank
>>581938316>RACEANHuman>CLASSANPaladin>LISTENAN>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDWVmW6gU7c>EATANblueberry chia seed pudding>DRINKANblack coffee>FEELANfucking cozy
>>581938238You can also get one of the Pack Kodos as a mount eventually
Did they nerf line of sight breaking in this? I can't recall NPCs shooting through every tree and this many walls/corners.
anyone got some BIS lists? whats the highest dungeon we can equip gear from rn?
anyone do poppers
undead warlock is still the goat and human and gnome 'we are pvp gods' CHUDS can't do shit about it
>>581938669troll and orc > ud
>>581937952assuming blacksmiths can't craft strong enough keys either?
>>581938623Cave walls and houses are usually very tightly programmed. Lots of things that look like you can Los there but can’t. There was a formula, it’s not actually like randomly spot programmed. Youll eventually just intuitively learn what assets can be used to line of sight.
>>581938623most trees have never counted as LoS and tons of buildings in the open world never have either. mostly a case by case thing though for buildings because it's not always the same logic
>>581938628>anyone got some BIS lists? KYS my man
>>581938385>competitivethere is quite literally nothing as FUN as a windfury oneshot against a mage in wow
>>581938458yes but.....i want to tank and dps!!!! no, what do you mean i should have rolled a class that could do those things, i want to be a paladin/shaman!!!!!
What happened to the DKP loot system, and why isn't it the meta anymore?
Reminder
Can you get legacy points in beta?
There are rumors circulating that humans will be able to be shaman, they will introduce them in a chain quest with varian wrynn
>>581938623turtle wow had extremely tight line of sight on practically every world object and it's been hard getting used to mobs firing off spells through trees and some structures but not others like murloc huts and tents with no rhyme or reason to it
>>581938492Sixstein Sevenberg
>>581938316What will you guys be EATAN, DRINKAN and TWEAKIN AN for launch day? AKA REAL gamer fuel
>>581938940I hate white women so much it's unreal
>>581938669>non paladin undeadthose are like cryptids in forever
volumes
>>581938907whenever troons post normal people can instantly tell. I don't need an infographic to tell me trannies are mentally ill freaks who live online
QRD on if Rogue will still be playable for people who aren't clinically retarded?
>>581938896its too much effort for zoomer guild leaders
>>581938669>orc>completely fucks rogues and self decurse+15% magic dr is insane>troll>pve haste and self healing is goated>ud>uhhh u get a proc sometimes xd>ally is for cucks
>>581938797I’ve never seen that happen in a skill vs skill setting. These two classes usually are beating up on noobs with lower ilvls or are unprepared or are skilless players. You’d always prefer to be a good class, the others are much more reliable looking.
>>581939026>whenever troons post normal people can instantly tell. I don't need an infographic to tell me trannies are mentally ill freaks who live onlineBased
>>581937782You're supposed to corpse run to Menethil Harbor after Dun Morogh then take the boat to Darkshore for komfy Kalimdor kwesting.Or you can just tram over and take the new gay boat from Stormwind now I guess but what's the fun in that
>try to join a guild>it's controlled by some faggot and his 4 butt buddies on the loot council>try to make your own guild>like 5 randos join (none of them will even make it to 60)god damn I miss gdkp
>>581938502Yes you can fap to become immune to stuns, but you cannot use it while stunned. Fap does not work on fear.
>>581939105ud have more self healing than trolls
>>581938912lvl25 requirement so have to wait like 10 more days
>>581939027You can’t nerf rogue. Its kit is too dangerous. Even without any gear on they’ll be winning against bads.
>>581939190Hopefully we don't share this :(
>>581939190Lmfao litteral 3rd world anger. This nigga not going to be able to afford food without token.
>>581939209Can't get professions to 150 or finish any of the dungeon sets? Or explore the whole map?
>>581931839>warrioroid seething impotently as the golden child isn't golden anymoreSeethe, cope, dilate.
>>581931839LMAO bear gonna rape both paladin and warriorkeep coping, young sprout
>>581939269>female nelf druidmany such cases
>>581937482>>581938896This. If you put a lot of effort into the guild outside of raids, like farming mats, helping set up raids, etc. you deserve points you can spend on loot priority. This works especially well in classic WoW since the game is easy enough that you don't need to min-max to clear the content.
>warlock>rush to 60>farm DME arcane crystals and class books>make 198k gold ez pog>swap to the class I actually want to play and never touch the warlock againkino...
>>581938907I thought it was a given that MMO generals are a cesspit of attention seekers. This is technically the honeymoon phase.
>>581939169for pve you want controllable haste to stack cooldowns together over random proc, alwaysfor pvp if you don't go orc you're fucking retardedud is just mid
>>581938669Orc is unironically better than undead in every way possible.>racial takes a full 1.2 seconds off a 5 pt kidney shot>racial removed and gives immunity to banes and cursesYou will win every rogue engagement as a warlock, and you will win every warlock v warlock matchup.Undead wotf only breaks fear once, it no longer provides an immunity period. Although cannibalism is good, it's useless if there's no body around.
how exactly did some russians become literal millionaires off a private server
will forever be enough to defeat guild wars 3 and riot mmo?
>>581939437same way blizzard did, selling mounties and moggies to trannies
>>581939269Is this real
>>581939437>add_gold +1000000000000000000000>sell to chinese bot farms and other sites and let them run 24/7 with impunity for a cut>sell paid "dono bennies" packages
>>581939538Tirisfal Glades is going to be overcrowded as fuck.
>>581939378Opposite with me. I'm going paladin for prot and holy so I can make friends and tank and heal and afterwards I wanna level a warlock
>>581938367Idk mobs are faster than you can go away for attack?
>>581939367>dkp instead of reserve Do guilds still do this lmao that’s probably so shit for new players who join up and are like 40th in line
>>581939664unless they do a 2019 with 100+ layers
>>581938316>RACEANgnome male pink hair>CLASSANwarrior prot>LISTENANwhatever i feel like>EATANnuffin, croissant maybe>DRINKANsprite>FEELANHYPAROO
>>581939437twinstar (not even that big of a pserver) owner is from my country (czech rep) and he literally made so much money of it he bought a house, 3 sport cars and is basically retired for life
>>581938738Wrong>>581936553
>>581938623World objects like trees and rocks don't break LoS unless in Battlegrounds. This has been the case from 2004 to 2026 in all versions of the game. If you think they break LoS then you were playing a turdscripted pserver that was not blizzlike.
>>581936553Undead looks insane. I knew people were fucking retarded for saying that touch of the grave suckedIts going to be a tough choice between orc and ud
I just realized something, we have chinese pandas in wow but not "not japan" for samurai which is kinda funny. I feel like every game tries to shoe horn in japan
>>581938940What's the point of rolling the pipe after the flame is gone?
We are so back.
>>581939718Theyll probably maintain the overcrowded zones on purpose to make the expansion feel like it’s a fresh release. You just need to be ahead of the leveling pack to get good rates. It’s not very hard to do this you basically just go for maximum xp efficiency. Most people are taking like 5 minute breaks every hour to stretch and drink water, they’re very easy to beat. I set up a bucket next to my chair, there’s lots of small ways to save time to get ahead in game.
>>581939796lolyou can't sim how good something is in pvp you stupid fucking retarded baboon
What does Guzu's hairline think of Forever so far?
I don't even care that they've nerfed mages on paper, it seems like they're mostly just trying to combat AOE farming and boosting, I want to see what lies behind the comprehension skill
>>581936553>procs on wand attacks>wand attacks now have no wind up before the first shot is sent flyingI'm going to be doing some decent dps by wanding between each heal on my undead priest
>>581939954we have monks albeit
>>581939669Similar with me leveling prot warrior first to boost my friends through dungeons then leveling a comfy warlock for farming.
>>581939954How would a samurai class work?
Whats stopping me from hosting a private server?
>>581939930It's easy to FEEL like it sucks because when you're levelling and questing you see it like maybe once per quest for like an extra 4 damage. Whoa!
>>581939410>>581939105Wrong and retarded Undead is bis >>581936553
>>581939367in practice DKP systems have always resulted in the guild clique of 5 or so players just magically finding extra dkp for themselves, or making other players spend more dkp on class pieces they know they need so they can't compete for chase drops, etcit naturally encourages fraud and corruption and really isn't any better than a direct loot council2x soft reserve system is as fair as it gets
>>581940170days worth of effort
>>581940092balding just like 99% of this thread
>>581940143considering your reputation actually matters now, making a pally or a druid for tanking and healing is pretty on point
>>581940118>what lies behind the comprehension skillA level 21 meme sword that you can post on your youtube channel shilling battlemage for the next 2 months only to realize it was just a flavor item for retards.
MALE SKY ELF HUNTER STATUS (ALLIANCE)???????????????????
Are human rogues as OP as it sounds in a rogue vs rogue environment? Sure the undead rogue can sustain more dps but the human rogue would get an opener on account of seeing stealth, right?
>>581939967they're crackwhores trying not to use all of their butane in the lighter so they can smoke more crack
>>581940070>Healing for 150-300 hp and dealing 150-300 dmg per totg proc is le bad
>>581939739I want to make a warrior to tank for easy gearing, and they'll be at least required 1 per melee group in a raid. However I am afraid they'll be complete unplayable ass in pvp because of the rage changes. No rage from getting hit, and no extra rage from crits. You'll be sitting there staring at "I need more rage" while your opponent gets to freely use all their abilities. It takes 3 swings just to get enough rage to use mortal strike once. With a 3 second weapon you're stuck there auto attacking for 9 seconds before you can use an ability.
>>581940150>katana and dagger dualwield in cloth armor>2h katana in mail armor for tanking>ninja with shurikens in cloth armor
>>581940118> it seems like they're mostly just trying to combat AOE farming they are too clueless to do that since you can currently kill 6+ mobs with just nova + ae
>>581940282But what if it's true thoughever?
>>581940367>5% chance>meaning you could go an entire fight with it ever happening as opposed to a guaranteed boostyou're a stupid idiotstop replying to me
>>581940367>>581940218Undead heal only applies on spell cast, not on dot/channel tick. It's shit for warlock.
>>581940407I'm not too worried desu. This is beta and there is nothing stopping devs from buffing warrs later.
Are Forsaken mindcontrolled by Sylvanas in vanilla? Like she can order you to lick her feet with her mind and you have to obey haha?
>>581939558yeah the private servers break way more classic rules than blizzards versions. the shitposters here are genuinely angry that blizzard shut down their scams.
>>581938907White excellence
>>581940630 >footslop |ewww
>>581940407I really don't care about warrior pvp in forever, I'll play in pvp servers because I like world pvp and makes the game more fun even if I suck at it. I'm more interested at the nu pve kino that they've been dropping. But yeah I agree that warrior in pvp will be straight up aids and needs some work to be put in but at least we have the spear to fuck niggers who are evading us with 100% speed mount
retail babbies on xitter begging aggrend to integrate every horrible retail feature in their lil brain
>>581940605Aggrend hates warriors and will never allow it.
>>581940536>5%It’s 10% for spells and you are retarded
which of the 3 packs is most value? I don't have any particular interest in WC3 but I dunno the $60 doesn't seem like it's worth it by comparison.
is there a class tierlist so i know what to play?
>>581940650omg yesss daddy blizzard slaaay we love copyright law crushing equal competitors so our company never has to improve squee!!!
>>581940330But the twirling doesn't magically spread the heat throughout the glass, if anything it would probably make it cool off faster.
>>581940695Then just take the L, accept your +3 legacy points and level something else after.
>>581940694did they ask for weekly vault yet?
>>581940772omgggggg xisssss fuuuuck corpors we love running our transgender private servers using stolen assets and code and then selling it we're just innocent robin hoods providing the community a serviceeee!>...for a fee
>>581940426So two worse rogues and a worse warrior?
>>581938075Tis the only way.
>>581940816anon they're crackwhores, you're assuming too much of them
>>581940735The skyelves and by extension beta access is completely overpriced. Only the most expensive pack makes any sense and only if you are interested in WC3
>>581938756Maybe, I'm not a blacksmith unfortunately
We need special classes based on what race + class combo you picked beyond just 1 useless ability with 2 min cd.Imagine you pick a night elf rogue and instead of having thief talents/abilities you will have demon hunter/warden talents but the overall theme will still be rogue
>>581940926I'm too high for this conversation
>>581940857No, samurai makes rogues, warriors and hunters not worth playing
>>581940772>Steal 99% of my recipe and add 1%>Look we made this! It's ours you're just mad a competitor stood up to you
>tfw the XD spam in game has become so infectious that I've started doing it with every interaction I have with another playerECKSDEE
What kind of mental illness makes people want to play on pvp servers?
NEW FEATURE LEAKED!!!If your bags were full and forgot to loot a dungeon drop, it will be mailed to you
>>581941015you'd have to make every combination relevant or else you'd see nothing but the most op one
How does the 80 dollar package even work if you don't own WC3 remake?
>>581941098Part of my fun is being put in situations I'm uncomfortable with >getting gankedBecause I'm not a little bitch
>shitty guild management website OXM publishes fake list profession perks early into beta>streamers run wild with it and all make videos outlining to farm views>OXM takes down their professions page after beta launches and is obvious they just made up random shit from datamining SOD content>community at large still believes the original fake info, like balcksmiths have belt buckles, tailors can embroider, enchanters can enchant rings, etcgonna be fucking hysterical watching forever launch and seeing the crying from casuals and turd worlders who can't read accusing blizz of pulling a bait n switch on professions when it was just the greed of some shitty website and worthless streamers propagating a lie for engagement. good god I can't wait for this shit to launch.
>>581941113>another 'toilet featuregrim
Well boys, I had fun fishing in stv, until the pvpers came along and camped me
>>581938316>RACEANDorf>CLASSANShammy >LISTENANVakthang - Phenix >EATANCroissant >DRINKANGreen Chartreuse >FEELANHow to convince the gf to healbot once more?
>>581941113But only if your first name doesn't overlap with someone else who made their character before you so the mail doesn't get sent to the wrong player
>>581935678>wotf only breaks now, no immunity>cast fear>re-cast fear >as expected insta wotf and the second one lands
>>581940772>equal competitorslmao, if a gypsy steals kitchen appliance from your store shelves and start selling them outside with romanian flag sticker on them that doesn't make it equal competition
funny how people are praising this guy who made SoD and whose previous resume includes nothing but copypasting premade classic code to their modern client and who you can already say is demonstrably either lying or out of touch with vanilla wow with the way he talks about social aspects but defends sharding.
>>581941216just don't pick up your mail#togglers
>>581941113>Shartlet feature
>>581941154Pretty sure you get both wc3 and the expansion
>>581939113>skill>magelol, lmao even
>>581941279why doesn't aggrend just eat all the gold buyers
>>581941015This would basically be priest racials for every class, and I agree it would be cool but it would also be a gigantic balancing nightmare. t b h I think even the priest racials are excessive, the point of them was supposed to be that priests of different races worship different gods which gives them unique spells, but humans dwarves and gnomes should all be priests of the light meaning their spells should be the same.
>>581941113what does Alexensual think about this
>they change it so gear must be repaired by the corresponding profession>people can craft repair kits and sell them on the auction house>the more rare the item the more complex the repair kit needs to beThoughts? Could be really simple at low level but it would allow a constant, deflationary pressure on the gold in game
>>581941113Nothingburger. >Oh man I didn't loot it because I dc'd >What a great feature fuck retail!
>>581939378>DMEI assume you played era and this was one of the best warlock farms? I'm playing one for the first time since TBC so I'm still learning.
>>581935678Orcs are way worse than undead for warlocks>bane and curse immunity for 8 seconds>magic damage resistance at the same timeI'm not sure why the devs hate alliance warlock players so much. This racial should have been added to the alliance.
>>581941113How does the lore around loot recovery work? Is there really a goblin who goes around checking every unlooted mob just so he can mail the loot to you? And he does all that for free?
mrgm and gingi are spewing truth
>>581941098Toxicly high test
>>581941279I will praise any genuine white nerd dev like him. 'tis that simple.
>>581940843>>581941057>>581941273give me a reason why developing a version of the game the parent company is failing to provide and releasing it for free is bad without saying 'because it lets poor brown people play' or 'because the billionaires will lose money'
>>581941049>muh super amazing custom OC donut steel classYeah that's also retarded. Take your samurai fantasy elsewhere nerd
>>581941159>if you dont waste time getting ganked while trying to quest you're a bitchOk lol
>>581939378>professions changed>gear changed>pathing changedyou are fully retarded if this is your plannot to mention the fact that with GDKP banned you dont even need gold
>>581941534Aggrend, eat these fuckers.
>>581941412There's no deflation when the money goes from player to player
>>581941130Yea you can’t add to the classic class themes that were already designed. If you play the two handed guy in a different mmo, you’re gonna be like “where the fuck is my charge?”. Or if you’re mage “where’s my frost nova???”. So the classes are pretty much set in stone at this point. Only providing slight variations, which ultimately are worse than the originals, but do provide some flavor.
are north american streamers going pvp or pve? i want to avoid them and their fans
>>581941057Enough about Blizzard stealing everything from Warhammer and talk about pserv now
>>581941581>I don't like getting ganked!Roll pve coward not my issue I explained why I like PVP because I enjoy friction it makes me feel emotions when I play my videogames
>>581936882I finished polishing up my resume, I don't have beta access thoumst drinking from a big water bottle cause I always chug any tasty drink so it feels like a waste
>all this buzz around touch of the grave being OP for every class>still gonna roll troll warlock because its cooloh noes, I won't be efficient!!!! please raid leader-sama, can I please haz invite even though I'm not a minmaxed faggot????who gives a flying fuck, play what you think is cool. besides, anything to stay the fuck away from tirisfal at launch.
>>581941553because of retarded copyright laws, if you dont defend your IP you basically declare it freeware and everyone can profit off of it legally in a while
>>581941537>defending a californian boomer faggot who probably never leveled 1-60 in classic
>>581941279>>581941360>>581941537i remember we used to make fun of this fat fuck until recently, why is everyone fellating him suddenly?
>>581941632AH taxes take a piece.
>>581941360He was training.Now that his daily caloric intake is 6k+ he can.>>581941279Forever is going to be sod- but people aren't ready for that talk.
>>581941534Should have never added the tool that exists now. Give these fuckers an inch and they never stop asking for more.
>>581941534Keep anything related to M+ fair away from the fucking game. You know how you find a group in a fucking MMO? YOU JOIN A FUCKING GUILD AND MAKE FRIENDSHoly shit retailfags
>>581941534What happens if Forever kills Retail? Will M+ troons and mythic raider troons commit suicide?
>>>>>>>>>getting ganked is wasting timeit's all a waste of time
No GDKP means getting keked a LC or play in garbage groups with SR ....
It's fine. I'll just recruit on launch. Tons of people will be looking for guilds as they're leveling.
>>581941671but troll is bis for pve just like in retail? we're winning mon
>SD is better, bro!
>>581941645Cope retard
>>581941632wait fuck
>>581940758>warlock>priest>mageeverything else is dogshit
>>581941359Yeah most mages I see on youtube don’t know when to blink or frost nova. They just press it when it seems good, they haven’t studied the winning move set yet. It’s all been planned out already long ago. PvP is a very very scripted encounter, there’s not much room to outplay the guy because the winner is already known before the fight even begins. Unless of course the guy is genuinely a shit player and doesn’t know when to use his spells. Warriors can NEVER win against mages or rogues. They will have a 100% lose rate. But, you see them winning all the time because they’re playing against the mentally challenged
>>581941737nothing can kill retail because the retired crypto bros play there and pay big bucks for arena carries and mythic raid loot
>>581941793It is funny how everyone gushes over the SD models when 99.99% of players use the same 1-3 faces for every race.
>>581941846you had no argument so all you could say was thati accept your concession enjoy pve servers little dragonslayer
>>581941703fyi all wow communities atm have been infiltrated by retail players who are known for sucking blizzard off
>>581941534Why can't they stay in their fucking game?
>>581936370Warlocks have at least 4 potential specs. Chances are 1 of them will be good. I'm hopeful anyway.
>>581941713i have been calling forever sod 2.0 since day 1 of beta.
>I got ganked once my life is RUINED and I MUST quit WoWHow are people like this unironically
>>581941759just play with your friends anon
>>581941890Who have you even seen "gushing" over the new SD models?
>>581941113>infinite bag space
>>581941793I genuinely cannot tell which is HD
>>581941963I'm a dad with 17 kids and 5 jobs and 10 wives if I get ganked and have to spend 40 seconds doing a corpse run I'm literally never going to hit 60 in time!
>>581941963i look like that :)
>>581941279Every decision he's made so far with Forever has been great and aimed at fixing major problems with Classic, biggest fail for me is lack of SD support for skelves and their druid forms
>>581941963will I find my cute JP wife to play forever with if I play prot paladin undead
>>581941956I'm telling you it's gonna be sod 0.5.Less content, less class diversity, less jank, etc...Like you are going to get a handful go fetch bear anuses quests but no long ebin class quests or anything like that.
>>581941963Thats Jesus, this is how he spends his time. He said he wanted to make a lot of porn. Im not even making it up, that’s actually an immortal talking demon… that’s what he’s fucking doing. He’s also holding us all at gunpoint on “””his land”””, but made it look like it’s owned by different governments and rich civilians.
aggrend is a fat white nerd and those make the best MMOs you're all newfaggotsit's either skeleton mode or big fat fuck those are the best devs
>>581941963one time I was leveling in a private server and a quest NPC I’d been escorting for what felt like 40 fucking minutes got killed by a rogue for no reason and I was so pissed I didn’t play the game for another 6 years. Still rolling PvP thoughbeit
>>581941534I don't understand, what is the difference? Looks like the same shit to me
me? protchad palachadyou? not invited to raid
Hello! Could i get a qrd on the Priest specs? Did they buff Disc? How is SPriest? I hope some Priestchads can answer!
>it's another episode of PvP niggers seething impotently at PvE niggersnot gon roll pee vee peesimple as
>>581941759we have anniversary guild that is also hosting 3-4 pug raids weekly, it's 60% guildies and same ~20-30 pug orbiters that show up to each one every week, essentially its just SR with very soft LC so there is no bullshit reserves and all is fair (moderately), obviously as a host the guild can hard res some stuff like glaives, but it is understood. still worse than gdkp, but beats sr pugs with total randoms
>>581942069japs dont play wow
when's /ourguy/ streaming?
>>581933309>I can't article whykek
>>581941534i remember when people ignored me when i said adding dual spec to SoM is a bad idea. i remember when people pushed back when i was calling SoD a retoilet abomination>>581942045i am going to remember when people pushed back when i said forever is SoD+
Flying mounts in WoW Forever should be rewarded to players who earn every achievement in the game. At that point, you've clearly put in the work and already explored everything there is to see, so flying isn't going to ruin the experience for you.There's literally no downside to this unless you're an autistc vanilla WoW purist that you can't fathom any change being good, even when it's clearly a positive one.
>>581940041you're wasting time if you have to handle the bucket yourself. maybe if you play an auto attack class, but otherwise you have to shit and wipe in-between GCDs. it's more efficient to call your mom so she can handle the bucket & cleaning and you can stay focused
>>581942191why did wow fail to launch in japan when it was able to take over in china, korea, na and europe?
>>581942185Holy will probably be the healing spec and shadow will be C tier dps
>>581942185its capped at 20 we dont know shit about fuck for endgame right now
>>581941534why is that every literal who on twitter thinks their opinion matter?
>>581942270no
>>581941703>weForever is not made for perpetually seething classicfags, you are impossible to please unless it's yet another reset to play with your ever shrinking playerbase
>>581942040>he has 10 wives>cant make any of them healslutsSad!
>>581942345culture too strong
>>581942345PC gaming was extremely niche back in the 2004 in Japan.
>>581942370>>581942045retard
>>581942345FINALFANATASYONLINE
^ baits used to be believable
>>581937482move to a guild with dkp
Should I even bother if I can't play before the 14th of November?
>>581942270>there's nothing wrong with a completionist sweatlord being 310% faster than you, he earned that you fucking chud so just sit there and let him corpsecamp you with no ability to escape and let him take every ore node in the zone, too
>>581939930female UD do have the flips but it still feels cooler to be an orc warrior + too many UD and blue elves, the horde needs more green
>>581942270>missing 5 achievementsnoob
>>581942186Im probably gonna do pvp on my toon because it’s a fresh release and it’ll be a fair playing field. Or I’ll play hardcore, im not sure yet. I don’t imagine this is a better hardcore game than classic is, they seemed to have geared most of the changes for casual experiences like pvp and dungeons.
>>581941534I haven't played retail in over 10 years. What is the difference between this and the one we have in Forever? If it auto puts you into a group, then it can stay in retail. I want to be able to pick and choose which groups I join and which people I invite. I want them to have to whisper me or request to join my group so I can at least see what class/level they are. I would feel awkward about kicking someone from group because they are the same class/spec as me and will be rolling on my shit and I imagine for the other player getting kicked feels worse than not getting picked to begin with. And if it doesn't automatically sort you into a group, then genuinely what is so different about it?
>>581941737Retail did not need help dying
>>581932342in classic i changed all the nelf music to their belf equivalents and it was cool hearing the eversong woods music in teldrassil
>utterly endless assblasting over the dungeon exp nerf>hundreds of posts begging for compromises like "what if no exp if a high level is in the party" or "why can't you meet the exp values halfway between what they were and what they are now in the beta>"b-but this will just make takes and healers even more scarce because their primary source of leveling is gone!!!"kinoest decision of the highest order. fuck mages carrying dungeons, fuck babies doing all of their leveling in dungeons where its nice and safe from gankers. fuck tanks and healers needing to be catered to. game is a level (heh) playing field now.
>>581941963Gooner bros...
>>581942270I support itThe only thing it would change is WPvP which is endless (Forever™) and 100% end game contentThe best WPvP guild would be the one with a ton of people with flying mounts
>lack of tanks is so bad people blame warriors for not going protroll tank yourself faggot
>>581942345Japanese didn't play many western games until the internet started getting popularized around the 2000's and by then they were firmly Nintendo/Playstation slaves over Halo/Xbox/PC gaming. The otaku of the age played Japanese stuff like VN's and occasionally western games like Ultima.
why are there so many retoilets on every single website?why have they infested every porewhen are they leaving?
>>581942615Wear the shield.
>>581941793yeah the two extra nig skintones are straight up broken on sdbut why would you ever use those anyway
>>581941737Possibly. I don't see retail fags ever coming here because they will lose their MOUNTS MOGS CHEEEEEVOS
>>581942345Xenophobia.Nips are console niggers, PC is seen as ''hacker'' and ''eroge pron game'', still is to this day.That's how much impact Snoy and Tendies have in ramenlando.
>>581941205well I'm glad because those engi items were retarded OP
Why is it okay for me to "go back to Era" but if I don't like changes you propose and tell you to go back to retail, I'm suddenly a nazi chvd?
>>581942213When is he riding on his rapey horse again?Method Josh, Pilav (after a healthy dose of GEAR), KKKungen and Alexensual.Fuark imagine the rape crusade.
>>581942674you have to say the magic word
Flying mounts would instantly kill Forever just like Classic instantly dying when it got to TBCBlizzard is thankfully smart enough to know that flying mounts are poison and the biggest mistake they've ever made
>>581941113what does this trigger for exactly? does it just mean i can ignore all mob loot in a dungeon and just receive it by mail?
>>581942575Now if they just nerfed the exp gain from quests or increased the exp required to level up. Leveling is too fast
>>581942270Does that player have every mount in the game?
>>581942345PC is anathema in japan, consoles have a significantly larger marketshare. It is slowly changing but nintendo and sony are industry leaders.Even the way games are developed there shows this, when making for a console you use all available resources. Which doesnt always work great for PC titles
>>581942345Japan doesn't play computer games. It's a really weird cultural thing.Also Japan is massively autistic when it comes to online interaction. Even in the console MMOs like XIV they are COMPLETELY fucking silent in capital cities. They are really autistic
I was not expecting the new graphics to affect me this much.It really does feel like how I remembered it first being when I was a kid.
>>581942615if you can tank while leveling you tank, if you can heal while leveling you healspec doesn't matter at low levels
>>581942662>making up enemies in his head
Mage or warlock (gnome) for alliance? I will be on the pvp server. Main concerns are:>gold farming options>pvp viability>raid desirability
What the FUCK is this desire to play only the BEST and STRONGESTWhat the fuck happened with palying for fun
>>581942662Our two camps have joinedIt would be in your best interests to get along with themThey seem to enjoy women with phat asses such as this human female rogue
>>581942705>>581942345japan has become increasingly westernized, being a weeb in the 80's meant going to a completely different culture from us because they didn't interact with american or western culture outside of the super famous stuff... they used to be "weird" for a reason
>>581942779Wear the shield, nigger.
>>581942779It's too late, I found a druid who won't be a baby about it
>"we want the world to be the main character">*dungeon quests give you 3 levels, skipping an entire zone*genius!>"we want to foster social experiences">"no not like grouping up and working together as a team, we mean picking up the bear poo that your questie arrow points you towards"genius!I really have faith in these guys :)
>>581941240>log in for the day>get mailed a teebus, a corrupted ashbringer, and a rivendare's deathcharger>againsigh... it aint easy being John...
>>581942740might be thinking about something else. oxm didn't have any actual items, just the perks that each profession would impart. there are accurate datamines of what will be in the game from profession, and engineering has some pretty out there stuff, like turning yourself into a centaur in desolace for increased speed, batteries to recharge MCP, belt gizmos, rocket boot enchants, etc. those are gonna be in the game.
>>581942270i'll allow this but after every single achievement the only flying you get is the scooty puff junior and it flies slower than you can walk
>>581941489>retail>consistent lore
>>581942839Can't have fun im afraid You will look at the arbitrary tier list and you will play the S class
>>581942575I'm actually planning to level as healer with all the new SP gear and holy damage on priest desu. And going holy/ret while leveling seems like a fun time too. Resto/balance seems cool if you get enough SP to make wrath not shit. Tanking while leveling as druid and paladin sounds easy breezy, but i imagine would be shit on warrior, but warriors tank as arms in Classic anyways, doubt any of the leveling dungeons will have bosses hard enough to warrant needing to go prot while leveling. I did every dungeon in the beta so far in a cleave group where all dps were essentially tanking since threat is a joke at these levels and it's entirely possible as long as the healer isn't some erp doofus orgasming at the wheel with their lovense.
>>581942824yeah the game looks greatwhen looking out at Mulgore from TB I had to stop for a bit and take it in
>>581942818JP ONLYJP ONLYJP ONLYJP ONLY JP ONLYGod we used to be so fucking racist against them before anime became popular. They made good games but were intolerable faggots to non-JP online.
>>581942834both are amazing optionsdo you want to control a pet, do you want to be tankyor do you want to be squishy but mobile and good with CC
>>581942906Stop using Nazi logic saar.
touch of the grave doesn't seem to work on dots
>>581942801>does it just mean i can ignore all mob loot in a dungeon and just receive it by mail?Yes, enjoy infinite bag space via mail. You no longer have to destroy grey items just to make room for loot. As a gamer dad, I sometimes don't have time to make those decisions because I'm too busy dealing with wife aggro.
>>581942825huntard detected, how about I play what I wanna play
>>581942345The Japanese only played on shitty handhelds until vtubers popularized playing FPS and other games on PC just a few years ago, maybe they don't have a lot of internet cafes like South Korea and China I don't know
>>581942839You can't have fun if you get zero group invites at max level.
>>581942839Its rock paper scissors, there isn’t a correct choice.
>>581942829its literally the truth i have found out this website recently that allows you to see people who have privated their reddit history and i've been looking up bootlickers and they always have a history in one of the retail related subreddits like r/wow, r/transmog, r/competitivewow, etc...
>>581942968Japan's biggest issue is they are just really fucking autistic. Like if there is a problem in America an American will call you a retard to your face.There can be a glaring issue in Japan but if its not "SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO OUR CONFUCIUS HERITAGE" they won't say shit Like people will die over this crap
fun is a cope for people who are shit at games
>>581936375Shaman is 99% a bunch of WC3 Horde character abilities mashed together
>>581942968
WoW Forever™ is solved. You can skip the launch.
>>581943006wasn't it so that other people were able to loot the rolled item if your inventory was full? or did they change that in retail
>>581942806honestly, agreed. all of this talk about how 60 will be the max, "forever", but people hit level 20 in one day on the beta. loading up your questlog with every quest possible for a dungeon guarantees 2-3 levels, and now that they've added more dungeons, it's gonna be pretty easy to just go on a dungeon tour, collecting all of the quests for each one, knocking them out, blasting up the levels until 60. this will probably be the fastest "legit" leveling experience wow has ever seen. I say legit, because of course it would be faster to have mages trivialize dungeons ad nauseam.
>>581942345as stupid as it sounds, Apex Legends started the PC gaming boom in japan. they are that retarded
>Japan doesn't play computer games...didn't they like, spearhead the development of home computers? how did this happen? too expensive and consoles too affordable?
INV ASMON LAYER
>>581943112t. sweatfag Did you ever raid in a top guild? I did and those people are not enjoyable to be around
>>581942745Because you don't come with any arguments besides "no"
>>581943121He will be remembered as the hero who stood up to the evil Japanese samurai who shunned us Americans in FFXI because we didn't want to poopsock grind for 12 hour sessions.
>>581942662there's literally nothing to do in retail besides m+ and raid log.
dalaran is sick
>>581943007then you can fuck off from any group I make and keep dealing with people expecting you to not be a retardret looks like shit in 5 mans from what I can tell so it's no loss
>>581942801It probably only mails you gear drops, not all the random trash items
>>581942818this is not true any more, i live in japan and pc gaming is now absolutely huge, I went and bought a new laptop today from a japanese OEM , wow is just an old western game that never got translated to japanese, its too late basically.
>>581942887I'm a localiser for Eroge on Dlsite, I maintain my statement, since the weirdo killer rapist in japland that collected and made snuff, there's a stigma to PC anything there (on top of Sony/Sega/Nintendo) and to this day it is still seen as the ''hackerman'' and the ''pornman'' hikkikomori land.2chan didn't helped, at all.
>>581943154simply home computers weren't as wide spread. arcades held on for a long time and so did consoles.
>>581943173ofcdontfuckingcareI was the best, thats what matters
>>581943154No they just like consuming nintendo shit for 100 bucks a game
LAYER? I BARELY KNOW HER XD XD XDDDD
>>581943202jponry is The Last Samurai
>>581943096>they won't say shit reminds me of that tweet where a jap guy is complaining on twitter that some white dude put his seat back on the train. When somene said "why not just ask him to not put the seat back" the guy replied with "FUCK YOU! AM CHICKEN!". They are very non-confrontational face to face but will be passive aggressive to an unreal extent.
thoughts?
>>581943154>of home computersNot really, Apple and Microsoft really broke through thereThe japanese made handhelds and just played on that shit medium for 4 fucking decades while literally everyone else with electricity moved on to consoles and PCs
>>581943196we already know what the game will turn into when every "little qol" gets added. do we really need to make the same mistake twice?
>>581943340>>581943327>>581943410>>581943271>>581943264>>581943260i'm from SEAwill i like this game?
>zephras islewtf were they thinking? literally retoilet garbage
>>581943410Some of the SD models are bugged. Male undead is especially fucked.
Got some interesting differences with Stormwind already. We got the harbor but they didn't do that random thing they did in retail where they just vomited a bunch of random crap to fill space
>>581943147Nah, it was vtubers who pushed PC hard in Japan. Apex just happens to be one of the popular games among Japanese gamers (and vtubers)
were people playing wow on their mac back in 2004what was that like
>>581943486>wtf were they thinkingBudget department said they had to reuse scrapped retail race to justify the money spent making them
I like playing healer. But when I don't play healer, you know who I absolutely loathe the most in a group? The dogshit ass casual gamer healer fucking noob. And I hate how the casual playerbase caters to these lazy fuckers. Why do they decide to go afk for 10 seconds after every pull finished instead of immediately drinking the millisecond they leave combat so the tank can chain pull and they can enter the fight with full mana a few seconds later? Why do they stand there and refuse to wand or do literally any dps at all even when there is nothing to be healed? Why do they overheal like crazy? Why do they put bubbles on warriors and druids who can't gain any fucking rage (someone lmk if this is changed in Forever)? Why do they panic so hard? I feel for you dps and tank chads that want to go fast and blast but are being held back by your /trash/ healers, if we ever get into a group together I promise I'll let you pvmp.
What the FUCK is wrong with people
>>581943468Pinoy chads RISE UP
Yo, listen up, here's the story. About a little guy that lives in a blue world
>>581943526I completely forgot they just randomly killed the park
>>581942270nyo
>>581943154>Japan doesn't play computer gamesMost people see Japanese cultures for its iceberg content and the language barrier helps keep people out from seeing what's below the surfaceAs a level 5 Japanese speaker, I can assure you that at least 80% of cultural Japanese are extremely weird and that one guy on here who said they were all extremely HFA with great masking skills might not be incorrectAfter I hit level 4 Japanese, I lost all interest in moving to Japan
>>581943526isnt that just the LK version of the city with the boats switched around a bit?
>>581943282yeah they're all tablet and mobile device super normgroids
>>581943526retail stormwind is so fucking ugly
>>581943526I would like to see the cementery make a comeback but keep the rest that was added on cata out
>>581931781>>581931781>>581931781>>581931781
>>581943663this is unironically game ruining cancer if true
>>581943663totally fake btwcasters will have full greens of [element] wrath
>>581943154They actually, so listen to this. Western investors tried to give Asian countries some notoriety by building production facilities there. South Koreans sing and dance. Japanese are like Pokemon players and love final fantasy and anime. But of course, it’s not actually this way. They’re just paying some people to make it seem that way. Because it makes the world look bigger, it gives these countries some advertising, and it had to be done somewhere anyways. Japagooks got lots of the tech shit like phone productions too. Germany got like lots of car shit like they build fuckin cars dude. It’s very telling like Spanish got like “food” like they’re known for food dude but it’s shit food. Little did you know, the entire world is owned by a single person. He is immortal, which is how that happened. And he has built a production line of virgins and slaves who get implanted on his red dick, im not making this shit up. We’re currently being held at gunpoint by this fucker. He was just clever about how he did things.
>>581943581>current retail xpac is all about elves>forever gets a new elf race insteadNOTICING
>>581943631So they can camp outside of neutral towns and 2 shot you duh
>>581943468it's not for youplay XIV
Why do questers care so much about people enjoying the game in a different way? Is there really such a problem with spamming a few dungeons here and there, getting bored, doing some questing, back to dungeons? I dont understand why they are entirely capable of seperating playing the game as originally intended with mage boosting? How would the world be any less quiet , especially now we have essentially one regional realm?>>581943574I played wow on my dads mac G4 back in 2004/5 , it was absolutely fucking dogshit, I remember being in ironforge and it was a pure slideshow, I remember complaining to my guild and them joking about doing a fundraiser for me. (ironically this thing cost a fucking fortune)
>pve horde>completely normal people, not a single mention of twitch faggots>pve alliance>YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO OLYMPUS>I LOVE ASMON>LOL FUCK TRANNIES>WHO ///ROACH CREW/// HERE????
>>581943771Nah those aren’t good items, they don’t have stam. Stam’s massively underrated. A full set like that will leave you with barely any hp, and you won’t really be doing that much more dps.
>>581943857kekw so true sh*t's sadge as hell man
>>581943663I dont have any blues when I ding 60 because I dont waste time doing dungeons with shitters
>>581943713cemetery and varian memorial are kino, only a no shoe freak would disagree
>>581943996I think im actually pro dungeon now. You just can’t do dungeons in a speedrun setting because they’re meant to be unassisted. But, in a personal speedrunning situation, dungeons are probably better and you just end up skipping a leveling area. Probably just one quest hub, like instead of doing darkshore 2 in your guidelime, you do deadmines. Well maybe darkshore isn’t the best example because there’s tons of chain quests. Im not sure really, what area would we skip in exchange for deadmines?
which elves have more sex sky or night?
>>581940772indian/3rd world levels of retardationmake your own game
>>581944250sky elves will be the cumdumpstersevery single one will be treated like the whores they are
>>581943693can u teach me nihongo, sensei
>See people just standing in front of an enemy sharting at it without even kiting
>>581944558literally this
NEW THREAD
>>581935406That sample size is abysmal.
>>581943672Park got destroyed by Deathwing in Cata.
>>581943857Isn't Asmon switching to horde or is that just for the beta?
>>581942141>quest NPC I’d been escorting for what felt like 40 fucking minutes got killed by a rogue for no reason and I was so pissed I didn’t play the game for another 6 yearsAbsolutely btfo.
>>581943857I deleted my lvl 20 alliance to get away from this and it really is better on horde
Is arcane mage viable now?
>>581943775wow, to think I started reading this with the impression that it wouldn’t be a fucking retarded waste of time
the new zone is utter garbage
