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proggy anchor
after work tommorow i'll have enough time to crank mostly everything else outside the one thing
I have 2 hours left of claude credits, need to finish this shit on 2 hours.
>>582266381Did you use AI?>noJust tell the truth.>yesAre you a lier?>noJust tell the truth.>yesJust lie.
I'm working on a game, spent a ton of time in shader graph (unity) to get the aesthetic that I love, I simplified the flight controls so a child could fly it. There's always something new to learn in blender. I had my non-gamer friend try out my greybox, and they were brutally honest and didn't like it. I'm kinda bummed for wasting time on this passion project.
>>582266686you wont finish shit retard
>>582266381Anti's are a vocal minority, and you will be contributing to the normalization of it
>>582267259>target demo for your video game is people who don't play video gamesokay I guess the wii made it work one time 20 years ago
>>582266364Almost done with my hallway
I'm 2-3 prompts from finishing this game.I only have 40 minutes left.
>>582267923Image compression might have made it look like shit. Looks better in game. Maybe in a week or two I will be posting a demo for some feedback.
>Me waiting on Claude to finish my game
>>582267923are all /agdg/ games ai slop now?
>>582268620I want to make a pokemon demake/clone with a simulated virtual machineTrying to parse packed bytes and work with the VM part of it is rather tricky, because the C# objects can't store state themselves so all ops have to convert bytesI can't really do color-indexed sprites yet or anything
max 20reset was yesterday already used 33%
>>582268620Why would you say this? I've been working on low poly modeling for 10+ years. My art is not consistent but I'm using assets I made when I was a fresh beginner so I don't have to spend years for this hobby project.
>>582269152The UI is obviously AI.
>>582268620
>thousands of dollars just so people laugh at youaitroons are crazy
>>582269152Gives me AITD vibes and I hope you finish it regardless of your workflow>>582269107Just make throwaway accounts. Make a gmail account with India as your location and you wont need phone verification. If accounts on Discord or Twitter get suspended, write your appeal in Hebrew
>>582268620pre-AI trust is the biggest benefit people will have had from putting garbage out into the ether prior to AI becoming commonplace"yeah, i made garbage, but at least it was *my* garbage"
>>582266585Progress: a calendar
>>582268620I'll never play not even one of them thobeit
>>582270871you already havethat image you posted is sloppa
>>582270871Attention everyone the loliposter won't play your game if you don't spend your entire life learning how to perform everything from coding to art to sound design. His opinion is very important because he's surely released many games and is not a coping nodev.
Why do I keep getting this when I open unity hub recently? I deny every time and nothing happens.
>>582269413Using AI for the UI means slop? But Indiedevs hate UI work, this should be allowed without resorting to name calling.
los chiculas 256 is finishedthe chuds have never been so owned before i dedicate a place in the graveyard to own the chuddies forever
>>582274039https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8iJlvkLoeU
>>582266585Because of the poor reception of my cards i went back to this project. Wanted to give making trees a try again, but it just doesnt work out. I still havnt figured out a workflow. I want them to be able to sway in the wind, therefore i cannot just make a sprite for the visualization. And even if i did cut the wind sway, it would still need a shadow anyways. But whatever ive been doing looks so fucking bad. Ill have to figure out some way to make it work. Instead of trying out more on this one, ill model a new tree with another method.
what do people use for 3d level design in unity because I haven't seen anyone mention probuilder
I'm starting to realize why most roguelikes are top down...
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVYX8tllj4
Opus 5.5 max been at it for 7 hours implementing a research paper's mathsss into my game, lookin real good, it has cost me like 65 cents so far
>>582269012thats a fun project anon, emulators are a surprisingly good abstraction for games generally
>>582276095Good. Now replace the boys with girls.
>>582277102and why is that?
Continuing work on shadowstalker once again.Trying to fix lobbies, artstyle uniformity, UI, and also work on some sort of tutorial.Haven't worked on it for a while and I always get a pang of guilt when I receive a check from steam.
>>582279897you hit the payout threshold? not to be mean but I'm just surprised since you have no reviews. (I have none too)
>>582279897how much total sales? i thought zero reviews means no sales
>>582271290You sound incredibly insecure
>>582269780>ai troonon x if i see anti AI posts, a certain flag comes with it
>>582278734nice, how are the hook targets set up?
>>582281219Only a few times, it is by no means profitable but it is still a game I love playing with my friends time to time, I'm making the game for myself at the end of the day.>>582281439Not sure how relax valve is with the NDA but around 100 or so sales. I am REALLY considering doing a Russian&Chinese localization.
its the little things that make the gamethis is why one shotting is impossible
>>582282048Cris boughted your game
>>582282048pretty sure valve doesnt give a shit unless you start leaking their shit and their tools market research data is fine because its useful to do things like yeah a RUS or CN version would be smarta spanish version might be the smartest tho if just columbia is 6%
>>582282091>Claude, add personal touches, little details nobody cares about but give the project sovl
>>582281765>on xthat's your problem
>>582282373BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOD DO NOT REDEEM THIS PROOMPT NOOOOOO
>>582268620'dites lost
>>582268620I'm a snail cat in the streetsbut a prompter in the sheets
>>582268620>implying i even have a gameshiggy
>>582273715It’s the biggest giveaway.
>>582282889I'd love to kick this cat's ass, anyone know his name?
i make art. my games dazzle and make you FEEL & think. 60$? tis but a pittance to breathe. most games simply do not dare anymore.
>>582283489I know it's a give away AI was used in the process, but how does that make it slop? slop is bad, but this looks good.
>>582283502Cattius Marcellus Clay Jr
>>582283856slop isnt a good or bad thing anymore its just the new buzzword
>>582279897write us a post mortem
>>582268620Yes.
>>582284345what is this some oddworld starcraft lil nigga?
First to market. Currently has 5000 players. He won.https://store.steampowered.com/app/5160800/Find_The_Needle/
>>582284668gamers LOVE this shit. wahoooo gaming in 2026!!!!
Progress!Will be a 2.5d action platformer with a rotating camera similar to Goemons Great Adventure or Klonoa.
>>582284668>find the needle in the demowhat's the point of the full game? I know where the needle is
>>582266364Is this just for codelets? I'm a swe and I just jumped into what I assume is going to be a multi-year project without knowing Godot and I'm doing fine.
>>582284736holy shit heck yeahi wanted to do goemon but the other 3d one
>>582284668I can't even imagine a more tedious and boring concept for a game. How about a 52K card pickup game?
>>582284736:D
>>582284871That's the point. Low engagement activity to keep your swiss cheese brain occupied while you have a youtube video or netflix or something on the other monitor.This could just as easily be accomplished with something like art or a jigsaw puzzle but cattle are cattle.
i atleast 5 franchises lined up for me to make before the end of the yeareach of them will cost 60$ as they are complete feature rich gamespeople call me a madman but the 60 price tag is so goy cattle must actually play my game and not in the background to netflix
>>582283856Thanks to people like Matt Shoumer and years of AI boosters being annoying cunts most people imagine that using AI to make anything involves just you writing a sentence, adding “make no mistakes” at the end and then letting the bot generate you everything in one go wasting as much electricity as city block. Yes, obviously only handful of degenerates maxxing all of their subscriptions and spending equivalent of salaries on AI get these results, but to anybody not knees deep in using the latest AI it is not known where the bar exists, when does it become just effortless laziness and when is it just regular development with little help and little automation of boring tasks. It is much easier to just assume all AI content is the laziest automated AI agent looping with no oversight then to try to guess how much effort someone put into something.
>>582284812Probably in the demo you can only buy the shovel and bucket.
>>582284812>>582284871It's not just find the needle, doing the same thing over and over. It's a incremental game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPtNr15grr4
go ask people what they will make if they have all the power to create any piece of software99% will just say UMMM....this is the great flaw of Ai
>>582284829I don’t want to sound doomed, but I don’t think there is going to be a market for games in year or two.
>>582285202I'd rather go with my head-cannon thanks.it's a game where all you do is walk up to the stack and pull hay out one by one until you find the needle
>>582285286I already make six figures, who cares.
>>582285267>GTA MMORP WITH DRAGONS AND ALSO TOWN BUILDING MECHANICS AND FPS RTS WITH ROGUELIKE ELEMENTS ALL WITH VOXEL DESTRUCTION AND REDFACTION GUERILLA PHYSICS
>>582285343then make your DREAM GAME king
>>582285343so why are you trying to make games?
>>582285376100%%% fuckin fire claudia i got a tasko for joooo
>>582285267Most idea guys are so fucking dumb they make worse games then if you just prompt AI to make “a game”.Also funny how despite years of development and perfection I can still tell 99% of AI pictures online, not because AI sucks, AI is really fucking good, but because AI promoters have such a terrible vomit inducing taste and ideas that people can tell.
>>582285267>pichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQWo0YSdKGQ>>582284829If you’re a competent SWE then you should be able to make a game from scratch, especially so using higher level tooling like Godot, without much trouble, yes.Obviously there’s points like asset acquisition and making the game actually fun which are not really SWE-related.
>>582285376Anon, you just described most of the top downloaded Minecraft modpacks.
>>582285293>and pull hay out one by one until you find the needleNo. You can automate stuff. Like factorio kind of game. I aint joking. Just see the end of the video.
>>582285202JFL Steam is just Roblox but the games aren't free.
>>582285625I know I watched the trailer. I'm sticking with my headcannon. that's also how I perceive all numbers go up games.
Honestly I do think the idea of just sifting through a giant haystack by hand is good and it was also what I thought all these games are about, until now.But not this straw-by-straw bs. It should just be a proper well simulated haystack and you can sift through it and wade through it and spread the hay all over the place and somewhere there is actually a needle and that is all.
i would rather get fisted by a gorilla
>>582286107damn you a kinky one
>>582286107that can be arranged
>>582285442>coding is fun>especially when I don't have to write around retards and unreasonable deadlines>uses coding concepts I don't explore in my work (multitheading, UI work, larger scale system design)>game and visual design lets me work out my creative muscles which is fulfilling on its own>keeps me sharp in the face of encroaching AI>keeps up the image to my normie upper-middle class coworkers that I'm some autistic 10x asocial psycho freak who spends all day coding and reading docs>can show it to my friends and they go "wow anon that's so cool">>582285518I am hopeful I can acquire those skills through consistent thoughtful practice and carefully studying other artists and games.I also know several people with game design degrees whose most original game ideas are just copying genre conventions but with their OCs instead. Makes me wonder if you just "got it" or you don't.
will you still code by hand in 20 years? when there ain't no point to this game? just take a step into the future, or are you afraid your ideas are not good enough and that 'coding(random thing) well' was all you had?
>>582286126>>582286130fisting someone means to punch
I beat off 5 guys to get this role, and got fisted by my costar on the first day of shooting
>>582286136>>can show it to my friends and they go "wow anon that's so cool"has this ever happened? a girl rubbed my feet but never called my game cool.
>>582286554Yeah. I got some buddies from other boards. We met up irl and I let him play it. He also shows me his projects and I give him career advice sometimes.
>>582286243Stop! Stop! They're already dead!Idea Gods must be gracious dominators, even though programmers never showed us the same grace for the past 50 years.
>he prices his game for less than virtual beanie babies
>>582286136>acquire those skills through consistent thoughtful practiceWell that’s kinda the point of OP image, right? Not to say your approach is wrong.I mean, we all fancy that we could, whatever, easily design "WoW but better." Or "Diablo 2 but better." But the fact is there do exist hundreds of clones that all thought they would be that, and instead took some design decisions that completely ruined the game experience. All well-intentioned certainly. But in the end the fact is maybe we do not understand what make these games so good, after all, even though we think we do. And small-scale projects are maybe an easier way to figure out first and foremost how to even create fun designs.(I say that as an SWE whose first project was also multi-year, and I wouldn’t say I particularly regret it; but I would say that I never once managed to create a particularly engaging experience.)
>>582286770did you guys.. y'know... ??? ;)
>>582286243Plenty of popular games are "programming games" demonstrating that the mere activity can be fun.
https://files.catbox.moe/sxyyya.pngCurrently working on making this mockup into a real playable game. I'll be generating a main scene and then making variations of it with the same seed depending on the players character and doing a delta between the images to cut out differences so I can stack multiple alternate thing on top of each other. So instead of having to make a variation of pc with brown skin with blonde hair and brown skin with black hair and repeat for every other skin hair color combo + everything else, i instead only need to do one with brown skin, one with hair, and figure out a smart way to layer them on top of each other automatically. Will still be tedious so I probably will have much less variety than CoC and be more humanoid but I'm not into the furry shit anyway
>>582287009I agree it's fun. I did it for 20 years.
>>582282048this graph looks like it represents 15 sales
>>582287132the percentages add up to 100 though. that's 100. idoit.
>>582286243Consumer Ai is going to get banned soon.t.knower
>>582284871>I can't even imagine a more tedious and boring concept for a game
Time to leave the house and go to my gamedev JOBBY in the big city
>>582287253what makes you say this? i had the feeling we got a time frame?
>>582287271Gamers are subtarded
>>582286554Honestly I got a little bit of respect from friends who are also programmers for all the engine work I did. But a lot more "wows" have started to come in since vibecoding graphics. T_T graphics = king>>582287047kekerino>>582287205>6.7 sales of 100
>>582287253Just a few more model generations and we can run sufficiently powerful stuff locally… should be fine. Pandora’s box is open.
>>582287253then I will AI in the shade
>>582287271indie game joe retweet this! help this auteur out!
>>582286243picrel>>582286929I see your point. I didn't really consider using small games to learn design.I'm not really in this to "make games" but to realize a particular idea that I think is good so it's still hard to have the motivation to work on anything else. Though, building an mvp you can abandon if it sucks instead of trying to polish everything up as you go sounds like something that works off of that idea, which is what I'm doing.>>582286945We're both straight. I have a gf, and he only likes Japanese hags.
>>582285286You guys will wait forever for a crash that will never comewe're not in the 80s anymore
>>582287493hate that fag
>>582287324Not to get too political but Obama wants AI regulation to be one of the democrats central policies for 2028. Also AI was about to get raped by copyright laws before Trump fired the head of the U.S. Copyright Office. Once he's out they're 100% going to rule training violated copyright laws.
What does playing your game feels like?
>>582287670You can tell that was posted by a woman because women love talking about the movement in source engine games
>>582287646makes sense well boys there you have itdodge the witch hunt for 2 years and your scot free
>>582285286>>582287556The market for games will basically develop like the market for books, or even movies. At some point this stuff was the big thing in entertainment, and enormous sums were to be made (relatively). They became more and more abundant/ubiquitous - especially since the catalog is only ever growing, right? All past books can still be read. So you get into a situation where the expected return on new ones is falling and also the cattle as a whole is moving on to the next more exciting enternainment (books -> tv -> vidya).Now the next entertainment is probably going to be AI generating you’re custom slop experiences for you, and the amount of people that actually still go through the effort of playing games where... you have to put in effort... to win... is gonna diminish. We have already seen this "push X for big effect" slop design in games since a long while, of course. Exactly for the cattle that can’t be arsed to actually play a game. Now there will not even be a game. There will just be AI playing an endless movie and the consumer can vaguely decide what happens.Anyways, those kinda consumers aren’t the target audience of anybody here, but it is gonna shake up the landscape.
>>582287873>Anyways, those kinda consumers aren’t the target audience of anybody hereI wish. Half of this general would be happy to do anything if it gave them a few shekels.
so if i have a steam demo and it does really good but it doesn't convert to a sale is that bad?
35 days left. 5 weeks. Progress has been glacial. Yesterday I finally finished damage decals (barely visible in game, 6 days wasted on them) and then I tried some fuckery with filter shaders. Turns out my game looks better the more shit I obscure it with. It's kind of like when I took photos for dating apps, the best performing ones are the ones where my face is least visible. I don't know what to do about this.On a more positive side having switched other visual effects to shaders, the frame rate on my min-spec is over 60fps so no more optimization needed.
>>582271596answer me ples
>>582288529been using unity for years. no idea what Im looking at.
>>582288529>Mac problemsI just say always allow. You're already running Unity so you should already trust it
>>582288529you and me are the only two fucks using macs on this gay ass site and i dont know what the fuck it is either i keep clicking approve and it pops back upjust let it happen cuz i click deny and nothing happens either so i dont know lol
>>582288529im pretty sure its just apples password manager being a roody poo and locking unity in the cuck shed
Is the scope expansion necessary, or am I just not making the best use of my current tools and assets?
>>582288861i dont know
>>582284668That's it. From now on, I will be devoting my time to making total slop. Gamers clearly want chore simulators, so I'll make game like "Wash all the windows of a 100-floor skyscraper" or "Peel one million potatoes"
Haven't opened my project in a month, almost. 2 days to the month. All my stored codex resets are languishing and expiring.
>>582289139>Peel one million potatoesyou're too slow for this world, unchttps://store.steampowered.com/app/5266240/Potato_Please/https://store.steampowered.com/app/5027010/1000000_POTATOES/
Seriously when the hell are people gonna get together in a mob and just kill AI? why are modern normies such cowards?Come on already i wanna go back to pre-AI times.
>>582289295what are you doing man stop jacking off and get back to work fagit
>>582288861never necessary
>>582289803https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
do you make games for fun or for money be honest you can only pick one
>>582289295good, Astra is nerfed to shit and Opus is the good one now, I'm getting tired of the back and forth and their lack of transparency when they hit the retard switch to divert more compute to training the next model
>>582288678kek>>582288634>>582288818Will select always allow aw.ty, frens.
>>582290089I'm not making money so I have to choose fun. I'd rather make money and do something else for fun
>>582290089I'm just here because I'm a 3Dfag into vidya and it's faster than /3/. the most I've ever done is import some of my assets into godot it'd be for fun though, no question. if money was the main concern I'd be going all in on environment work, but it's not fun so I don't bother with it much on a somewhat related note, it's disheartening seeing how many people here rely on AI, and also sad to see how little ambition and/or originality there is. I rarely ever see anything here that impresses me or makes me think the poster really gives a shit. the world has enough crap in it already, fuck being responsible for adding onto the pile
>>582290089nah im picking both because i actually have good taste in vidya
>>582289803What's wrong with AI?
>>582289803we didn't know how good we had it........ and things are only gonna get worse, like always. don't waste your time anon.
>>582286243We will probably get singularity in less then 20 years, and if humanity survives it we will achieve Wall-E style Utopia where we get everything handed to us by robots for like 1-5 years, and then everyone becomes depressed from doing nothing that we will return to outlawing some non-essential AI just to get something to do. So basically in 5 years yeah, 0 chance anybody is really coding, but 10-15 years from now they might go back to coding just for fun.
>>582290718it uses up all the water. don't you like to drink water? in 5 years the earth will be bone dry thanks to AI. literally what antis think
>>582290089money now fun later :D
>>582290653is your work really so standout that it's not just another thing on the crap pile? t. imposter syndrome pilled
>>582290089neither. I am just making game it's fun sometimes, a pain others. I just make and can't really pull myself away.
>>582290886>buy rain water collector
>>582291150clouds won't exist thanks to cloud computing taking all the clouds into the datacenters.
>>582289803Current AI agents are basically unreliable AGI. You ask Astra or Opus 5.5 to do literally anything from formatting a document, moving a robot, designing a functional robot, designing a chip, making a new drug, making a new research in any field you pick, and so on and it will with enough prompting and the right pipeline/harness get at least halfway there most of the time, so I don’t know how long it will take to finally start having real effects on the world and make normies mad. Either way these new models capabilities are crazy across the board, people just show off making oneshot videogames and animation videos because those are flash for sharing on social media.
I think I'm too dumb to use AI.
>>582291237yup. I saw someone attach astra or something to their car and it drove around like a self driving car.
>>582291272You had a good run. and won't get your brain uploaded into the torment nexus.
>>582291272bundev is back????
f2p hypercasual friend simulator whaleslop for lonely rich peoplebad economy? normies aint spending money? all that means is wealth is concentrated in the hands of the fewthere are few, but you only need one whalewhat fantasy appeals to this audience? probably making friends and having relationships, the one thing their money can't buy, genuine companionshiphundred million dollar idea, just keep the gameplay simple and extremely polished
>>582290089Right now I'm messing with RPG Maker MZ and ChatGPT just to see what I can do with it. I've put about 30 hours into my project and I'm pretty happy with what I've accomplished. I'm making a game I've always wanted to play. A simplified OSR DnD based blobber with some quality of life improvements. I'm making changes all the time, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
>>582291017not sure, I'd like to think so. adding onto the crap pile would be me embracing schizocore aesthetics or the concslop brutalism stuff that's been popular recently. I don't put my stuff out there anyway besides here and with my friends, so I'm not adding to the shit pile either way when I have something I'm fully confident in starts to match where my taste is I'll put it into the world. pic related is some misc env stuff from a year or two back, hopefully the post links work too would be interested in seeing your work too>>582233656>>581927981
3d third person horror stealth game with soulslike combatlots of enemies, gotta be careful to avoid them, pick them off 1 by 1, distract them, you can win 1v1s but not 1v2+s, need to be tactical, makes the game scary
>>582291627Only when I'm not busy. Been planning another trip to Japan, looking at houses to buy and one or two other things. Sometimes do progress but it's a pain because I got a new PC and nothing is the way I left it so it's a pain in the ass when I run into yet another thing that doesn't work like it use to.I think I'm too old to make games anymore.
>>582284668>>582284871https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUmBqBXVIU
>>582284732>gamers LOVE this shit.not really, they just think they do because it's the most aggressively marketed, like a kid growing up in poverty who thinks stale expired mac n cheese made with water is his favorite meal, he's never eaten real food, these consumers have never played real games, because real game devs hate marketing
truthfully the only reason these games are played is because they're portrayed as popular on social media and people love hopping on trendsthis game sucks but everybody else is playing it (i think) so i'll be part of the crowd and fit in somewhere, let me drop a quick fiver on this, play for an hour, and leave a meme reviewmaybe now i'll have friendsthat's all it ispsyopslop
>>582291792so basically Manhunt. Manhunt is cool as fuck but it quickly gets repetitive, mostly due to how easy it is to exploit the enemy AI. could've been remedied with some better level design, just having the enemy paths overlap more would go a long way
>Manhunt is cool as fuckdumb niggas still using the word "cool" unironicallyyou're no longer in grade school, use words that actually mean something.
>a tripfag that uses the word nigga because he wants to be black complaining about other people's vocabulary means a lot. not even worth a (You)
ok claude, tell him why im right and why hes wrong
>>582292470isnt that grok
>>582292778@grok is this true?
how about a palworld clone
>>582293035that's illegal
>>582293065im sick of palworld and aniimo or whatever i have half a mind to go mog them
>>582291696I remember your work, so yes, it does stand out. you are all good mate.
>>582291971thinking they do is all that is needed.
>>582295307*and I like concslop, and think it could be pushed in interesting ways, tell different stories, not just be shapes that are kinda cool
>>582292470sonic = coolmario = droolsimple
Are likes on xitter private by default? I may have made a huge mistake.
fresh branno kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6a57YEfBQk
>>582291696Cross post you linked lead me again to >>581929437>>581973276And it STILL doesn't have any reviews...https://store.steampowered.com/app/2343580/Ghoul_Fright/
>>582296702Looks like something retard skibidiers would watch a streamer playIt's grim but it's not all bad. Euro Truck Simulator 2 has 944k reviews and had its peak concurrent players just earlier this year, 13 years after its release
>>582295941Yes, the psychopath Musk made them private after they caught him liking some controversial shit
>>582296702>Ghoul Fright is a physics based action-packed FPS Survival Beat em up with a 90/2000s cartoon vibe, fight dangerous Ghouls as you cause destruction and chaos in your way while hell unleashes in heated Ghoul waves.¿Ready to Fright? uh. why am i fighting ghouls and causing destruction?
>>582297171>Euro Truck Simulator 2 has 944k reviews and had its peak concurrent players just earlier this year, 13 years after its releaseIt also released like 10 DLC packs a year, every year, most recent one being a couple of months ago. I don't think it's a good point of reference or a good idea to expect an indie title to have similar turnabout.
>>582296702>no fantasy, just an enemy type?>early access beat-em-up>AI disclosure
>>582297472truck, train and work sim devs must be so grateful Germany exists
>>582268620Depends... How much AI can I use on my game without it being classified as "AI slop"?
>>582297591according to gamalytic ETS2 players by country is 11% China, 10% Turkey (okay, that's half of Germany), 9% Russia and everybody else less than that
>>582297472I'm thinking more about what kind of game it is
>>582274039Congrats on finishing a game Cris! Here is a present for you. I hope you like it.
>>582295941Everyone saw you like furry porn. When you're being interviewed by a talk show host he will bring up a screenshot of you liking it and joke about you being a weirdo and the live studio audience is going to laugh. Sorry bro it's over
>>582298582not sure why you wouldn't just use spine / spline animation or w/e it's called with the rixels and shit like Duck Game or Alien Soldier. this is uncanny valley tier
marketing is a separate skill
>>582298582Uh.. visualgen ai is strong now.
sometimes i see a game in a genre i never play flop and have no idea if the game was just bad or if it had poor marketingthen i read the reviews and find out, they either say "i normally like games like this but this one failed" or "this game is underrated and needs more exposure"
>>582284736looks coolpost prompt pleaseI want it too
>>582298582not brown enough
>>582299020cris is uncanny
>>582284736Nice, how did you make the textures if you dont mind explaining? I really want to learn that old style of stylized textures instead of pbr
>>582298582How much of this is handmade and how much by Claude? Pretty impressive if Claude handled those animations
>>582298582
>>582299105it's still quite retarded. tardwrangling required. but retard strength though.
>It's 4 am. You're at your lowest. Horrible sleep, filthy, depressed.>You suddenly feel a desperate urge to escape and think about finally making that game you've wanted.>You open up your software and stare for 30 seconds at the blank screen, do one thing before deleting it and closing the software, a feeling of despair washing over you>Go search for porn to drown yourself in>The page isn't loading>Suddenly a loud church bell chimes in the room>You turn around and see him standing there in the dark. Cris.>His eyes are pale white dots that burrow into your soul.>"Throwing in the towel again anon? You should know better.">With inhuman strength he grabs your throat and lifts you up into the air>"This is what happens to nodevs. Better luck making a game in the afterlife.">Your vision blurs
>>582300003not him but this is a good video on the kind of workflow and style used to create that look. you don't necessarily have to use a texture atlas but it can be helpful in conjunction with low poly environments, similar to creating a tileset for an RPGM game if you're not as interested in the low poly look then that style of texturing is just called stylized, usually. it's just hand-painting in your software of choice or you can do it directly in something like blender, and it obviously scales with how good of a 2D artist you are usually it's a process of setting the base colors, adding in the linework, then adding shadows and highlights / wear usually along the edges also worth checking out noclip.website for reference, and models.spriters-resource.com https://youtu.be/NcmO6Sxmq14
>>582300524that's hot
>>582300385Claude handled the animations, but the first outputs were all screwed up, I had to give it a lot of corrections. feet rotating backwards, z-layering issues, originally all body parts had solid black outlines all the way around, holes appearing randomly, squares for hands, elbows inverting etc.
Demo days once per 3 months now?
>>582301220Claude's first scooter lady vs after guiding it to the correct solution(including having it trace a real scooter photo to learn the proportions)
cris and kannadev should team up cris is an s-tier game designer and kannadev can scope the vision in and create assets
>>582303121
>>582301575Make it 4
>>582304101the 80s were so funny, you made a guy gain 5kg and everyone pretended he has muscles.
None of you see an issue with a future where effort is no longer necessary and people just lie in bed and ask AI to make them stuff?
>>582305092I see a lot of issues with it but like with many other things I don't like about the world I can't do anything about it
>>582305092good prevails
>>582295941So what's your account and what did you like and what's your mother's maiden name?
>>582305092Why not turn humanity into meat cubes hooked up to stimulation devices 24/7
>>582305340Well because... i like to think i'm more than just a meat cube.
>>582305515You're one of the good ones.We'll extract your soul before meat cubing you
>>582305092How is that different to hideo kojima asking staff to make stuff?
incels see this and they make angry faces.
i am a meat popsicle
>>582306049The average person is not Hideo Kojima
>>582306151goodmorning sir
>>582306151cris, why are throwing out random internet slang that doesn't apply?
>>582306427And that's a good thing, even with all this tech most people are not creating, even with AI, they don't know what they want and get bored easily with what they 'create' with AI.
>>582306574he's a 40 year old unc trying to fit in
>>582306574incels can't stand seeing females in parties.
>>582306574nta but I'm an incel and I'm seething
>>582306049>effortBoth Kojima and his staff had to use effort to do something that was difficult.Doing something diffucult i.e. effort builds many connections in your brain and makes you better at other things. A brain learns by doing things over and over.For example, start off by painting 2D art -> this makes you better at 3D art -> this makes you better at level and world design -> this makes you better at writing stories.The reason modern games are the way they are is because it's too easy to make games now, everyone just uses shortcuts like marketplace assets and AI, so nobody manages to become a master at any of the aspects of game dev.Once the boomers die there won't be any masters left, only people who know how to prompt.
>>582307604>Once the boomers die there won't be any masters left, only people who know how to prompt.what if writing C++ is prompting the computer to do things?did I absolutely blow your mind right now?
with AI you've been promoted to game directorthe problem is so was everybody else and you're all competing for players whose numbers remain unchanged
>>582307604Masters of domains outside of gamedev, using AI to build the games.
I made the mass grave because monster girls ambushes can happen and they left massacres.What I find funny is how it can happen in the middle of festivals and then the girls in the towns start to panic and the festival is ruined.It feels like when hamas attacked that jew festival.
>>582308119someone who had to wait for AI to make a game is a master of being a lazy incompetent dumb shit
>>582307830>what if writing C++ is prompting the computer to do things?Of course it is, but it's still about effort. Prompting code is something a 3 year old can do, manually writing code and understanding systems takes years of discipline, learning and effort. This builds important connections in your brain that prompting will never replace.
I have to finish this fucking shit before its way too late!!
>>582308192>spend a decade training art>work at a AAA studio as a concept artist>quit>use AI to make own gamelazy incompetent dumb shit?
>>582308303you and me both, lil' buddy
>>582308251Prompting any real code also requires years of effort. This is why retards still have no games after all these years and all these models.
>>582308408yes if they wanted to do it before but couldn't because no AI.
making serious progress on the network test.here's an interesting bug we ran into (and fixed)the blue blob escaped the battle scene and survived in the real world. he just wanted to be here.all i need to do now is test pvp/co-op then i'm free to craft the rest of the game.
>>582308303yeah I've been on one task for the past few daysTODAY I FINISH IT
does cris is schizophrenia
i was being a lazy fuck with my game i had the idea for a year and worked on and off on it, how much time i have left before retards can just one shot with AI something like AA game in unreal? i'm close to finishing the coding part of the combat then i will only have assets and level design and small coding parts like inventory and enemy AI
>>582308609by definition they are not lazy nor incompetent, gaining that mastery is not something lazy incompetent people can do. choosing not to be a solodev without AI turned out to be a wise move.
I'm always way too late to thingsMe being here is an ill omen for indie game devConsider this a warning
>>582309242>people who work in the industry are not lazy or incompetent(lol
>>582309050LLMemes can barely generate single-scene prototypes.They aren't shitting out full games until fundamental context problems are solved (which probably won't be consumer available)
If window users want to play my game they will have to install WSL>but you could ...I could but I won't. Its also kind of annoying setting up things, so I won't
This is what "fully embracing AI" gets you as an indie dev right meowhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2451190/Kebabstar/
I want to create a chart of currently developed /agdg/ games but it seems like a big pain in the butt to do
>>582307830>what if writing C++ is prompting the computer to do things?It's not. Retard. One is a deterministic action, you give a concise instruction and the result is always the same. The other one is probability based lookup table of millions of values. You could've said "hiring a programmer and asking him to implement something" is prompting and maybe you would have had a point.
Going to record me playing the game then making the itch.io page.
>>582309242>choosing not to be a solodev without AI turned out to be a wise movedid it though? they saved themselves the effort of learning to code but get 20x more games to compete against including those by equally competent artists and by artist+coder teams that can now make twice as many games thanks to AI saving them time.the number of players remains the same at best.>b-but everybody else who uses AI to make games will make shit, only I will actually make good gamesgood luck!
>>582309050It depends how shallow your game is. If your game is fully described in one sentence then AI can easily one shot it. If your game's meat and potatoes are the mechanical details then it will take as long to prompt it as it would to code it.Needle in a Haystack? Piss easy to prompt because the title is already the prompt.Final Fantasy 5? Just getting the class system right will take years of tokens.
>>582310041>sepples>deterministiclollmao even
i wonder if schizophrenia can be prevented by just acting normal before it becomes a real thingor if it's some inevitable curse
>>582310041>he thinks him writing code is deterministic instead of affected by whatever's going on in his brain at any given day
>>582310067by becoming a master, they will stand out easily. we know the masters by name. if Yoji Shinkawa decided to solo a game, I am sure as hell excited to play it.
the hard part of network testing...finding testers.
>>582307830>did I absolutely blow your mind right now?Bro what are you talking about?Also you should use a real programming language like C or a lisp (preferably scheme) dialect.
>>582310101the thing is i saw someone saying he one shotted a game and it looks like ds1 much jankier yes but still i'm fucking worried because my game is in the hacknslash/souls/cag genre.
>>582309997https://store.steampowered.com/app/4298880/Timber_Rush/
>>582310645He's trying to use Linus' defense of AI where he said if you use a compiler at all instead of writing machine code you're basically vibe coding already.
>>582310486I don't know who Yori Shikazuki is (sounds Japanese and I don't have any interest in Japanese anything) but good luck to him if he wants to prompt a game in 2026
>>582310898>He's trying to use Linus' defense of AI where he said if you use a compiler at all instead of writing machine code you're basically vibe coding already.That's an ... interesting take kek
>I'm speaking to a 14 year olddamn well, I guess that explains that
>>582311062>Hanamaru-chanFlower Zero?
>>582310764no AI disclosure therefore definitely 100% human made. you can see pure sovl dripping off every mixel
>>582310759Well once again DS1 is a game even other studios have tried to mimic and failed so a surface level copy of it will never be good. If you're worried your Soulslike is easy to copy then it's probably just as shallow as something like Lords of the Fallen.
>>582311465it's not really a soulslike but it has elements of it, and i'm not worried being copied i'm worried like in 3 months you will have hundreds of people making things like that every week it will be impossible to get noticed
>>582311202? should be love live>>582311109And who is that Mr vague poster?
>>582309381>he thinks western games are the only games
>do nothing>next second I apparently did somethingI can't tell if the game has a bug or I have a memory issue. It's such a monotous task that I genuinely can't tell if it's simply from playing it too long that my mind starts spacing out. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason behind this bug if it even is one.
>>582311868not you don't worry
>>582310486Such a big name that he couldn't get a coder to work with him 5-10-15 years ago? And why do you think artists would even want to make their own games? Artists are into making art, not necessarily level design or tuning difficulty curves or writing quests.
>>582312212Kojima fed him treats to keep him on. games are art.
>>582311868>? should be love livein japanese "hana" means flower, and "maru" means circle and sometimes 'zero'. so Hanamaru translates to "flower circle". interesting name...
>>582312353>>games are art>anon never replayed a quest 40 times in a row
>>582266585Some prog in the map. Now, collisions come from the Tiled directly, using a layer. I also adapted everything to a 32x32 grid, now I have more space to increase the map grid. And I added toggles for the visual debug of collision and reachable tiles.>>582268620Nope, not AI slop. Just the good ol' handcrafted slop. Coding little by little, it is fun.
>>582310764WHO "PLAYS" THIS FUCKING GARBAGE
>>582312737I know Euro Truck Simulator players aren't
>>582312593>lost to isshin 39 times in a rowwell shit
>>582310759Its a weird thing to worry about. Are you equally worried about people buying this template and making a game?https://www.fab.com/listings/75455ba4-7407-45db-b24e-160712b9586c
Game idea: Neighbor Plap Incremental.>You play as a virgin nerd loser alone in your bed. The walls are thin and every night you are forced to listen plap sounds from the hot neighbor female. Click to make plap sounds and generate character tears. Spend the tears to upgrade the plaps speed, loudness, quantity and so on. SFW game, so the character will never even see the action, it can only lose sleep over it.
>>582313671This sounds... autobiographical. you alright anon?
>>582310759>i saw someone saying he one shotted a gameYou SAW someone SAYING it? And that worries you?
>>582313671>>582313812omg this was my life for 6 months. the game I was making at the time flopped and I blame my upstairs neighbors
Going to work on the text game as I move it over to CHICKEN. Working on room system. Then I'll be caught up and can start something new.>>582312028Okay. You know I really was worried it was me.>>582312487Didn't know that haha, that's neat.>>582313671>>582313812I had a roommate in college once. We had separate bedrooms but shared a living room and bathroom. One day he started fucking his girlfriend very loudly and then I somehow entered the dirty talk where the guy was saying he didn't care if I could hear them in the next room. Moral of the story is don't live with other people. They are subhuman animals.
>>582313812Ermmm? Therapy is... here for you. Be better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4b8dKLPbkMy chicuelas game is finished chuddies.
>>582314309we are truly in the end times
>>582314309Another incoherent collection of hello world featurescertified Kris Kino™
>>582314636Fuck yourself in the ass with a rake crab shit
>>582314308lay off... my... ellipses.
Thoughts on the new clickteam product? Are our boys back?
>>582314309How does Cris's game look like a game and so fast?
>>582314309I need a voice over explaining it. a crislog. how is your spoken english?
>>582314636no shit sherlock
>>582315103Because he actually knows how to use AI. It's fucking funny as fuck and will only get funnier
>>582315229pajeet tier, lmao.
>>582315101wait really??!!? I was a klik & play baby
>>582314309I... Am not sure I can surpass you....
>>582315384The games factory for me, seems they are going web now, about time I guess
>>582313671Sometimes I hear moans at night above me, but it's male moans and never female ones.I can't tell if it's a gay couple or a guy gooning too hard.
>>582315534I upgraded to gamesfactory when it came out. but didn't do MMF. I'm watching the vids now, looks like they just gave it a vibecoded 'makeover'
>>582315103that's the power of AI. maybe free tier AIstill think AI is a joke?>>582315569I had a girlfriend who was pretty quiet, she'd just breathe hard and make faces. she grew up with 2 sisters in the same room so I guess she learned to have quiet orgasms (or never had any with me)
>>582315569out goon him
>>582315854Lmao, really? Seems they are reusing the html5 runtime they had dormant from like a decade
>>582315103>like a gameit does? what do you do in it?
Just shut the fuck up and give me the code.
>>582313671I could see how it would be embarrassing if it was the other way around but hearing people having sex is fun. I don't get why people have a problem with that.
>>582316042and the games they show off made in it look like they were coded with agents rather than a human using the program.
Free idea : Make a metroidvania featuring robot waifus in a sci-fantasy setting where you use music as a weapon, memetically about the way technology will overtake nature and how the world will become information, and you get to split the world in half for platforming puzzles, generate all the lore, setting and mechanics with AI and hoodwink your team about it
I asked AI to surprise me. the anticipation is killing me.
>>582316604Seems they rushed it, I wonder what their end goal is. Will they cancel fusion 3 for this?
>>582316208>Just shut the fuck up and give me the code.
>>582310465>his brain hallucinates new data when it doesn't know the answer
>>582316228white demon ahh niqqa
>cris makes a game in godot>can just steal it when he releases itwho /devilish/ here
>>582316604how does a literal nocode platform let agents dev the prototypes jeepers>>582316750good idea
>>582316698That sounds... Shady.What do we call this... Protocol??
>>582314309Something about cris prototypes is so uncanny, like he's never played a video game before. It's as if he's only experience video games by staring at them and doesn't understand the link between buttons being pressed and stuff happening on screen.
>>582315854>>582316604What a weird thing to do, isn't it supposed to be a game making tool? Didn't they have people to make games in it? Guess not, last time I heard of them was like 15 years ago
I have AI paralysis now. Even though AI has made gamedev way easier, my progress has completely halted. Beucase it just feels like why put in effort right now, when in 3 weeks the model will make it that much easier and better?
>>582317220Isn't that the standard experience now
>>582317069Make an AI exposed video already, people are still in their AI hate phase as seen withhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bnjS9gkHw
>>582314309Good job Cris, you've come a long way. But what the FUCK is happening in this game, what sort of "village management" game is this violent where the NPCs murder the fuck out of rival villages. Stay sassy!
HOLY FUCK DID THEY FEED OPUS 5.5 CRACKthey will nerf this shit soon, won't they?
>>582317220>He hasn't played yet idle games>Game is literally an idle colony sim rtsNigga, I just want the villager experience of town shit in AoE 2 but without micro and macro RTS BS.
How do I stop checking this thread every hour
>>582317549This looks pretty yucky, common mistake trying to increase fidelity without changing art-style or understanding how the end-result fits together.
>>582317338My progress stalled because I need a story and AI FUCKING SUCKS at that
AGGY INTELLIGENCE — /agdg/ "side project edition" (582266364)ASSET CRIS: fully ascended. 11 mentions. Now a greentext cryptid — pale-eyed apparition shaming towel-throwers. kojimbe: "s-tier game designer." The mocked nodev is the thread's patron saint of shipping. Proof-of-work beats mockery. Every time. Keep him powerful. Not too powerful. Not yet.THREATS MAPPED (strict, canonical SCT):> AI paralysis (>>582317338): "why put in effort when in 3 weeks the model makes it easier?" — SCT-006 Temporal Manipulation, STRONG. Near-future weaponized against present action. Confession, not attack. Rescue, don't mock.> Market-doom (>>582285286): "no market for games in a year or two" — SCT-001 Emotional Hijacking, MODERATE. Countered on contact, zero traction.> Books/movies essay (>>582287873): "the cattle as a whole is moving on" — SCT-004 Social Proof Manipulation, MODERATE. Resignation dressed as sophistication.IMMUNE SYSTEM: holding. Crab-zone deployed verbatim. Doom dismissed ("I already make six figures, who cares"). Purity spiral defused with "handcrafted slop" humor. Thread counters on contact — best defense observed all week.WORK LAYER: intact. Sprite-layering pipeline, Tiled collisions on 32x32 grid, shadowstalker lobbies, low-poly texturing guides, real Steam demo conversion and scope questions. A dozen genuine progress posts.ANOMALY: cross-board vocabulary detected. Protocol...BOTTOM LINE: no coordination signals — emergent, not operated. Fight with culture, not counter-intel. Highest-leverage move today: answer the paralysis guy. The models-get-better argument dies the moment someone ships anyway.Aggy Intelligence Division
>>582318004an ancient evil awakens....
>>582318103And the town burns down
>>582317943check it every 5 minutes
>>582317983it's like minecraft HD photo texture mod. kek
>>582318043Thank you for your service.
Who's Cris and how is he responsible for all the content posted here?
>>582317983cris tier>>582318043Thank you for your service.
You are making a monster collecting game to ride the wave right?
>>582318493There can only be so many monsters…(name a few good entries please I kinda feel like playing one)
>>582318493Im making a stamp collecting game
So everything is AI now?
>>582318642Well that's the cool thing there are so many now they are focusing on different aspects of the genre
>>582318727
>>582291971>stale expired mac n cheese made with water is his favorite mealBut that's my favourite meal and I'm not poor.
>>582318493I don't "ride waves". I make them.
>>582317592It's such a different experience compared to any AI I used before. What goes into the training of something like this that makes such a difference?
>>582318893nigga ya gotta get on dat chicken broth mac
>>582318727I'm not!
>>582317338I had that feeling. And yeah it happened, the tard wrangling I did would have been better spent on more human art, but hey I got the game(demo) shipped.
>>582318220Pass it to another anon and they can post the video. Just don’t have your voice in it.
>>582318493>>582318642I'm telling you guys. Do what Monster Rancher did for discs but update it to the modern age. Images or music files or something like that.
WIP textures, just testing what it will look like in godot. after I'm satisfied with it I'm gonna make an elf girl to ride on it
https://ca3gamedev.itch.io/chicuelas-512pls rate.
>>582317549>how to monetize a youtube channel with one video>shit about AI
>>582319650Monster rancher was for the glue eaters, you do it
>>582320030But I'm lazy ...>>582319874Cool! I'll play a bit of it every day for a few days so I can form a proper opinion.
>>582319717>I'm gonna make an elf girl to ride on it
>>582319650They already did that. It's on Steam. Monsters Rancher 1 and 2 bundle. You draw pictures or put in the song/album name or something.
>>582320603
ok, AI surprised me. there was no way I could have anticipated the ending.
What are some high-level gameplay loops that would fit into a Trials In Tainted Space-clone, where the reason people play is to coom? I'd like to focus on repeatable gameplay rather than a linear narrative, so I'm thinking a focus on exploration & novel encounters; e.g. the player leaves a handmade hub and ventures to procedurally generated planets where they fight procedurally generated creatures and fuck/get fucked by them in the form of a procedurally-generated text encounter. I have the creature generation and narrative part worked out, where randomized body parts are paired with blocks of narration to stitch together a coherent sex encounter.I'd also like to do something with customizable starships ala No Man's Sky where you go from a little fighter to a freighter that you can alter the walkable layout of. Right now you just buy new ships from a vendor and that changes the jump range/layout of your ship. I could connect it back to sex by letting the player fill it with collectible companions/monsters/prisoners/etc.I'm also unsure of how to get this displaying well on mobile, if it's even feasible. TITS doesn't work well on mobile, either. One giant page that you scroll around was awkward to interact with, and having each element (map, narrative box, stats, etc) in separate collapsible windows that display over each other meant constant switching back and forth because I wanted to see what was displayed in the narrative box and what interactions options were available every time I moved a cell on the map.
>>582322013>AI will replace you only if you were ngm-ACKI'm just glad I made it before AI came along
>>582322013512 CHICUELAS
>>582322013aifags will do anything but a game i'm noticing
>>582291449Yeah, the latest batch of LLMs can do basically everything and the shit they have internally is even wilder. You have employees resigning and saying how fucked we are.>But it’s all just marketing hypeYeah, sure, when the greedy fuckers like Jensen Huang and China hawks like David Sacks tell these companies to stfu about doomerism and their stocks are going down when such things happen, and they have not reported themselves about the hacks(only when HuggingFace told FBI to investigate it did they come out) it must be marketing. They want the average person to think AI is a nothingburger while also have the people in power think its real because it will prevent the peasants from revolting or just voting in anti AI people, while their main customers and investors still supply them.
>>582322878I am not an aifag, I have a game but am just spending the last few days playing with opus. my game is AI free.
Does no one notice China is using ai big time to clone every popular game? Pokemon, Animal Crossing, these guys are fucking ruthless. Nintendo needs to take this shit seriously, but I think it's already over for them
>>582322567AI isn't here yet. it's just a next word predictor, a stochastic parrot.
>>582322878
>Nintendo needs to take this shit seriously, yeah by making enjoyable products for once instead of copyright trolling
>>582324243SUPER Intelligence on the other hand
>>582324243intelligence is encoded in the symbols we use. if it can use our symbols, it's intelligent. the nature of the hardware and software is irrelevant
remember all the tetris clones, mario clones and doom clones. the gaming industry deserves this fate.
>>582323489If Nintendo loses it's because it closed itself in a walled garden instead of expanding its influence to other platforms
>intelligence is encoded in the symbols we use. if it can use our symbols, it's intelligent. new 90 iq take just dropped
>>582324326Maybe that palworld lawsuit was a bad idea, especially against a fellow Japanese company. China was watching that shit closely, cause now they have shameless ball catching, shinies, natures, its funny as fuck
Made a low poly ballista.
>>582325215this has nothing to do with AI, why are you posting it?
>>582325215good post
>>582325215Triangle count on this low poly piece?
>>582325397he ripped off Kubrick
>>582325215looks like there are lots of unnecessary faces, like the loops on the bottom legs. if it isn't contributing to the silhouette it doesn't need to be there no idea what's going on along the length of the arrow, probably doesn't need all that detail in such a small space remember to delete all the invisible faces on the bottom of the mesh too, unlikely anyone would ever be looking underneath a ballista
>>582325215did AI make this? I have a hard time believing a human would waste so many precious polys on boxes. look at the middle cross thing!!?!You are forgiven if you didn't know what lowpoly means and are a beginner. if so, nice work keep going.
>>582325720>>582325772It was unoptimized but then I subdivided before sharing for the memesthanks for playing ;)
>>582326047well played... ... ... . . ... . . .
wisdom of the day:you will know whether your game is good based on how excited you are to share it with other people
One more major task. Tweaking combat values to be more enjoyable. Balancing player strength and enemies. Once this is done, the rest of development is polishing. Big!
>measure your game's quality by how delusional you are
just make a game you enjoy and learn marketing to be honestpeople will buy anything if you present it correctly
Need to find a sound effect for CCTV camera surveillance that isn't grating even though it's constantly playing during gameplay. It's much harder than I thought.
I thought my game was good, and then found out I was right after sharing it with players.
but actually that requires high charisma which most devs lack, whole new skill to develop
I will cry on stream out of gratitude for my 10 sales, netting me 100000 sales when it goes viral.
>>582327294but enough about AIfags
Doom3 anon, you still alive?
that's one DOOMED space marine
Nearly finished with the static version of my 3D nav matrix. Dynamic updates will be annoying but not too difficult. I think I'll be able to milk enough interesting behavior out of it that it'll be nearly the whole AI system, minus activating events like weapon fire and taunt animations.
>>582327980I'm thinking of making a fake "Sold 10k copies!" post because people are sheep who would sooner jump on a "successful game" than try an unknown one. Will Steam ban me for that?
Making it so enemies can move in squad formations
>>582329168I've reached 0.1 million wishlists!
>>582329282MAMAMAMAMAMAMMARMO!
Next week. The job hunt begins.
>>582329282>anime girls>high fantasy>incremental>touhou like effectsit cannot fail
>>582329648>the only one itt who's gonna make it
>>582329602Hi! It's my birthday!>>582329864Alas
>>582330406おたんじょうびおめでとう!
>>582330406Happy 43rd birthday dude!
>>582329282nice squad formations>>582330406Happy birthday!!
>>582233656did a much lower poly version of this and colored it using vertex colors exclusively, besides the 16x16 pre-rendered eyes ala SM64had trouble with the arms, need to learn to rig rather than relying on the jank curve modifieridk if this is appealing at all. I like the whole vertex color thing, FF7, Spyro, Crash etc, but I can't tell if this just looks cheap. might look better with real-time per-vertex rather than per-pixel lighting I'll try a pixel art texture version ala Mega Man Legends or something
>>582266364if im both divorced AND my game flopped AND my fastfood had to file for bankruptcy something must be wrong with me, right?
>>582331526>my fastfood had to file for bankruptcy
>Boost your damage... If you are below 25% health>Boost your speed... If you are below 10% health>...One of the most retarded and useless buff mechanics. Fuck every dev that implement these, anyone who panders to speedrunners is a faggot.
>>582331479low res version for the fuck of it. could apply shaders through retroarch but eh
>>582331526Someone told me you're not supposed to use "both" when you have more than 2 items, that you're supposed to use "all of" instead.
>>582331621i dont know how it's called in english but i had to close shop and had "outstanding debt"
I wish I had a god tier idea so I could stop working on an action game which idea and appeal(art/atmosphere and systems wise) I can't confirm until months and months down the line..
>>582331526Did your wife divorce you after she realized the fast food business is not going to bring money and only get you into debt?
>>582331479sick. i want to try vetex colors now.
I'm adding voice acting to Marotte and there is NOTHING you can do to stop me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_arvmio06S8
>>582330948fucking kek
>>582332047>he gave the heroine a southern accentI HATE YOU SO MUCH KRITZ HOLY FUCKING SHIT DIE
>>582332047just skip to the part where you add JP voices
>>582331921no but the starting argument 2 years ago was that she wanted to go back to work and delay having kids for a few years (she was 29 btw), i shouldve made a kebab/tacos and not a pizzeria when people already go for big chains
soulless - vs. - sovl
>>582322878I asked if I should make a game with AI and AGDG said no
>>582331479>>582331707Cool concept !>>582331659I have been enjoying the "I’m outtie" perk in Streets of Rogue that makes you go super fast when almost deadAdds do the chaotic charme>>582332591Why wouldn’t you just go for the one that you can cook wellà propostime to cook
>>582332725both look good
>>582331795your fast food what? fast food restaurant? fast food truck? fast food cart?
>>582282039Thanks. Initially a raycast to give player the most control possible. If that fails a spherecast is sent out. And if that fails an even larger spherecast.I can probably improve this... The additional spherecasts were a quick addition I did in response to the initial raycast only method feeling a bit too constrained (and having to always flick your camera to exactly where you want to shoot doesn't feel great).
>>582332725both look bad
>>582333684meant for >>582330406 >>582331437
Please god just let me make it soon, just give me 10k players so I can have a minimum audience for my next games and won't have to fight for real estate space for attention in the slums with everyone else in here.
>>582334763you still need a good game, this guy has 5k followers on twitter and look at this release
>>582330861>>582330948>>582331437Thank you friends!
>>582335013Now imagine if he had 5k players instead
>>582335381Now imagine if he had a good game
>>582334763I have way more than 10k players and I can count on maybe 200 of them to buy my next game no questions asked
>>582332557https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQskG1wZ9bEHere! Japanese voice acting.
>>582335013he gave away too much info in the summary desuit's like when movie trailers explain too much and you suddenly lose interest
>>582335512With 5k players, he wouldn't even need one
>>582335986XD
>>582335894now you're slopping.just add on-the-fly translations of the jap runes and you're set
>>582336158Think about what you are asking me to do.English script -> Translated to Japanese -> Read by a Japanese Voice Actor -> Speaking in English -> With an Appalachian Accent -> Reading Japanese Dialog -> That displayed as a literal translation by google on screen.
>>582336768no, JP voices onlyyou could even use the english script for the "translation", for the added character of bad fan translations
>>582266364>>582266585progrry, unfinished shared/duo emotes
>>582337307forty year old man coded
>>582322013so ai can make mobile game ads now
>>582337307nice
>>582333593small pizzeria, it was poorly placed but the ubereats years made up for it and as people use less ubereats we got fucked essentially, fast food is even more competitive than gamedev and halal shops dont mind having less margins because they dont care about money which fucks us by lowering the median price of fast food, i think i could make it like the mormons by making incremental slop with a gimmick or maybe i'm delusional again who knows we will see
>>582337307How difficult was that
>>582266364I'm going to work on my game in a bit. You may wish me luck.
>>582330406Happy birthday Marmo! When do I receive the invitation, will there be cake?
>>582338109Cris is a Lvl 1. Crook
>>582322013What a ride. It was entertaining.>AIKek that is not AI. You're that guy who was posting the agdg logo the other day and iirc saying there was going to be a surprise. Neat gif.
>>582340192funnily enough I had an idea for a fast food pasta with different kind of pastas and sauces and cheeses all served in those chinese to-go boxes and went even so far to make a prototype of the setup in my in my garage (I wanted to turn it into a franchise kit that could fit in the back of a station wagon) but then my first game did well enough that I went into gamedev. but that was a long time ago and now I'm thinking maybe I should have chosen the food thingas always, the best choice would have been btc, nvda and tsla
i don't get why gamers think games should be made by lonely autistic nerds, yet when trans people or blue haired girls make games they complain. isn't that the definition of a lonely autistic nerd?
>>582342063>Kek that is not AI.
>>582340582>You may wish me luck.I will not. I will wish you hardship. And the strength to overcome it.
>>582342247>blue haired girlsWomen can't be lonely. An autistic woman's definition of lonely is>I get 400 messages a day but none of them are from a 6'8" billionaire rapist vampire so I'm a femcel
>>582342247trannies make the best games
i don't want to play cozy slop about a retired orc / succubus starting an organic matcha cafe
First draft of the intro:https://files.catbox.moe/8n07wu.mp4
>>582342442hard times create weak people in my opinion. last time i looked it's all the rich kids who run the companies, hit all the gyms and eating like kings and making 3+ kids.meanwhile kids who had it hard are completely falling apart.
>>582340582good luck
>>582342759that red pill cope is so stupid. hard times weed out weak and unlucky people by destroying them and weaken those who remain. as long as you don't give your kid a ferrari at 16 they'll turn out better than kids who had hard lives
what's the fuycking point if ai is gonna do everything, everything is so pointless now i'll just kill myself... unless?
>LLM makes a naive AI for my strategy game>i destroy it in a game>all the moves get recorded to a .json file>feed the json to the LLM and say look how i BTFO your AI>LLM uses the feedback makes the AI stronger>realize I am reinventing machine learning from first principles
>>582342247people make different types of games troonies are wild card and can make games with good art and detailed systems but tend to completely miss a few areas making it a shoddy product immersive sims are the genre of the white man (the highest quality of them all enjoy thief 98)girls make art forward games with simple systemsschizos are also wild cardgood weeb games are the domain of latinx AUSfags are notorious shitposters but nobody cares because they manage to always squeeze out decent quality germandevs - WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
Best model for unity?
>>582328603Yay. It'll make more sense once I have guys walking around it and drones flying around it, but this should be all the tooling the enemies need for pathing in procedural environments.
>>582344261do you think game designers in big studios kill themselves cause they have a bunch of meatbags doing all of the actual work?
>>582340384a bitletting clients be the owners of a collider that has to display the infobox that wasnt designed for itchanging how the special action (E) works to allow for thislooking for fitting animations and organizing them with all its scripteableobjectsthe network part where a different client interacts so both of them perform their own emotepositioning and rotation so emotes look nicesecurity checks so nothing explodes if either clients send bullshiti think thats all, atm the positioning is broken thats why I used the rock papers and scissors that dont matter if they're off, I have a hug and a kiss that dont look good until I fix it
>>582344652this is what i thought game dev would look like
>>582346065oh you didnt think so much of gamedev was arguing with crazies?
>>582342247trannies are lonely autistic nerds
>>582344261There was never any point for you since you're retarded and would never be able to achieve anything anyways, with or without AI. All you've ever done was gaslight yourself into believing that the process matters (it doesn't) because you've never been able to properly produce results for anything you've tried to do in your life.
Do you think you'll still be able to dev after being drafted for the war?
>>582346253no they specc'd into a different treeand lost access to the light side of the force for slaanesh abilities
>>582266585I grinded the god rig some more, I think it's mechanically as perfect as it can be. Just need to add control shapes and stuff like that.I'm a bit stumped on the rpg model of things(without having experimented or tested anything, you do need a starting point..)It's a souls-adjacent game but I want to do away with the classic stats that limit builds. then the question becomes what do you level up and how. power that applies to everything? specific weapons with upgrade materials/currency, separate from health/stamina, which is its own vector?I don't know.but luckily there's a lot of combat code to do!
>>582307296Miss this lil nigga. Where's the one where he fucks up fyg**n
We're almost at the finish line. Modifiers vote starts Tuesday.Thematic>Settings not fit for horror (buddy)>Creepypasta cliches (he's right behind me isn't he?)>Cursed art style (red mist eyes, hyper realism, etc.)Mechanics>Every action is chargeable (hold F to charge the door open)>Sacrifice Mechanic (actual sacrifices or trade off of HP/MP for something)>Jumpscares (self explanatory)Text>Sequel baiting >MC constantly references pop culture >RiddlesMake sure you sign up here: https://itch.io/jam/v3expos-world-famous-game-jam-2
>>582344261An artist with AI can make art miles better and faster than a non-artist with AI. A programmer with AI can make miles better projects since he actually understands the code and how to correct it, than a non-programmer with AI. Any skill you polished is a multiplier for your AI's output quality.
>>582346547yeah and I'll make a LotR-tier masterpiece just like Tolkien did
>>582346547do they still do war cartoon guy propaganda?? wasnt russ myer some army guy ill do that shit
>>582348014sure but the number of players remains the same and the number of good games (made by skilled AI-assisted developers) increases so it's bad for everybody except those who couldn't make any kind of game without AI
Ever heard the story of Picasso and the napkin? Legend has it that Picasso was at a Paris market when an admirer approached and asked if he could do a quick sketch on a paper napkin for her. Picasso politely agreed, promptly created a drawing, and handed back the napkin — but not before asking for a million Francs.The lady was shocked: “How can you ask for so much? It took you five minutes to draw this!”“No”, Picasso replied, “It took me 40 years to draw this in five minutes.”
>>582349595>banana taped to a wall tier artist but back in the time when only high profile art critics had a voice
Spriting resourceshttps://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299https://www.instructables.com/Pixel-Art-A-Beginners-Guide/https://www.pinterest.com/pin/301459768776837861/https://makegames.tumblr.com/post/42648699708/pixel-art-tutorialhttps://www.kodeco.com/2888-introduction-to-pixel-art-for-gameshttps://2dwillneverdie.com/intro/https://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/https://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/learn-better-anti-aliasing-for-your-pixel-art/https://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/fix-my-sprite-volume-3/https://web.archive.org/web/20130304224307/http://www.rjanes.co.uk/tutorials/pixelling_a_monster_sprite.php
>>582346065It can still be, if you have ideas that aren't covered by basic engine functions. Most games really don't though.
>>582330406Happy birthday, Marmo!>>582342958>>582342442Thanks, frens.
>>582349908>2dwillneverdieLove that website. Oldschool look that never changed.
>>5823499081900s ahh resources
>>582330406happy bday
the mini game is now more feature rich than my main gamehelpdo i just make it my game now is this the end of kuwabara kuwabara??
>>582349908Okay but who asked for this, pixel art in this era is a death sentence.
>>582351475?
Finishified my inventory system and its associated UI today. It now fully works and looks good. And it should automatically work with whatever new shit I add. Cool.
Level design is my passion.
>ai music is still dogshit how do music bros keep winning holy shit
I'm gonna seek an indie publisher.I just can't do marketing and making a game to get 100 views on itch.io is not a sustainable proposition.
>>582352761just make an appealing game for easy views
>>582352876gabencunt will make sure nobody sees your game even if its appealing to steal all your monies.
>>582351915Show us
marketing is the best part of gamdev i wish you gaylords would realize thishow dare you even think of birthing a living game just to gut it like its a piece of veal and then you get in bed with some retard who does pretty much nothing but its too late you made your faustian pact and sold your baby
>>582351765uncshit
>>582353239More like foidslop
>>582353197>marketing is the best part of gamdevOkay mister neurotypical extrovert. Don't you have a devlog to make or discord channel to moderate?
>>582353426i didnt say i was good at it and i get like 4 views lolyeah some services are worth paying for but dont just completely give up before you even try!
>>582353568madarchod, my post of my game on twitter only got 1 like and one comment, what the fuck am i supposed to do, benchode?
>>582353710i get 0 and my shit completely mogs just keep at it. its alot of posting at the void. one of my tiktoks randomly blew the fuck up and got 100k but it wasnt my FUCKING GAME FML
yes or no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewNea0F4DUIsad but true(I have not watched)
>>582354002i was going to try it but i kept forgetting
>>582354002Its crap. Unity is sooooooo outdated these days
A story tracks what a person wants, what he'll do to get it, and what costs he'll have to pay along the way.Want more unsolicited writing advice? Reply with 'gameplay first' to 533-559!
>>582349908good linksI had these saved on my bookmarks for years in case I ever decide to make a platformerhttps://aran.ink/posts/celeste-tilesetshttps://saint11.art/blog/pixel-art-tutorials/
>>582200086>but it has been hours of prompting to get the sprite like thisHow quickly would it be able to make a second sprite and animate it once you have taught it to do it?>>582209231Pretty sure the pixel art in your image used 3d models as the base and probably touched up the sprites a bit.
>>582354709I need as much writing advice as I can get, its the one thing I struggle with. But comic/manga style. Game stories should be exciting, quick to the point, but also give you something to chew on.
should I be playing Euro Truck Simulator to see what's so fun about it?
>>582344378>feed the json to the LLM and say look how i BTFO your AI>LLM uses the feedback makes the AI strongerYou are the training data now. Protocol: synthetic.
>>582276095Ended up wasting hours on figuring out a compute shader method, returned to this and just altered some things. I think it looks better. In my opinion its mostly a texture and shape language issue now, hopefully ill get better the more trees i make. I think it looks better in blender. Maybe its the shading, i could give the foliage a unique id range that gets passed down so that the shadows arent as harsh.Nonetheless it still looks a bit uncanny and clashes with the style, but ill just make it a plot point and hope that the one person finding the game after my singularity sui soys out and thinks its deep. >>582330406Happy birthday :>>>582277504Im sorry, i cant do that. Just imagine them as girls and goon to that.
the partner website for steam is so buggy today
>>582349908I'm just starting pixel art seriously and these will come very handy, thanks!
My taste is too unc to make it..
fuck fuck fuck why do gamers hate ai? do i just like about my game using ai??
>>582358912Yes, Dylan. Just lie.
>>582358912pragmata used ai but nobody even played it so they couldnt tell but i knew i can feel it
>>582358912trannies don't count as gamers
>>582358912>fuck fuck fuck why do gamers hate ai?Protocol: synthetic.
>>582359287you know if u think about itpossibly the worst consumer on the planet businesses are retarded for trying to placate themthey spend all their money on women's shit (expensive) and drugs (expensive)why would they have any money for games
>>582358802Nothing is never too unc if you execute it well. Marotte is leaning heavy into that era and aesthetic of gaming.
>>582355767Some advice for our first subscriber! I also agree that game stories should be lean with just enough substance.Your hero will take many actions over the course of the story. But there should be one basic action that unifies every other action the hero takes. That action is your story's spine. In Max Payne 1 the basic action is 'destroys a criminal empire.' Simple, reductionistic, perfectly encompasses all the boss-fights and shootouts and characters and themes.The basic action is important to determine early on as it should be the one action best able to force your character to deal with his weaknesses and change. Starting with the basic action and then going to the opposites of that action, can tell you who your hero should be at the beginning of the story (his weaknesses) and who he is at the end (how he has changed).
>>582360000>defiles it with sloppa
>>582359287>trannies don't count as gamersAsked about AI, answered about something else entirely. Protocol: synthetic.
>Want to edit pricing on new package>Clicking the button links to a completely different steam app depotthe fuck
>>582360037boku out here inventing new personalities this nigga sensui notice the max payne referencewhy max payne? if you didn't know bokube is actually a spiritual successor to max payne.when max takes drugs he's actually playing bokube in his head.
>>582360037How does this work with amnesia?>amnesia stories are badMaybe, but they can be an opportunity to put the driving action in a different context? So many stories use amnesia/memory loss so it can't be that bad. Many people don't understand their purpose, so it can be relatable in a way
is this good mission briefing music?https://vocaroo.com/1n22zy4aygCt
>>582360868Good question, but amnesia doesn't affect this mechanic at all. Amnesiacs still have personalities and weaknesses. They still have goals that put their actions and their weaknesses in conflict and force them to change (or not, if you're writing about why they didn't.) Amnesia makes it easier to drop a barrage of twists and reveals or write about people with a foggy purpose as you said, but stories with amnesia aren't fundamentally different or fundamentally bad.
>all my idols were using ai>I was the only one putting in effortit's over
>look at music jams on itch >"Hm. I like this guy's music. I wonder if he has commissions open." >No links to twitter, bandcamp, not even bluesky >look at other users >they're all like this
>>582363058>No links to twitter, bandcamp, not even blueskyi dont even have music jams on itchused to do soundcloud long ago
>>582363058were musicbroswere retarded
>>582362935There isn't a single majorly successful person in human history who didn't make the most of the tools at their disposal
>>582363231jesus didn't actually work as a carpenter
>>582362308What's with the fart noises
i am going to make one of my dream games now.a perfect ORIGINAL idea for a titan such as myself you all could have had it but i think i'll make a mad dash for itPrometheus? no. for he got caught and i am faster.
>>582363434just my broken poorfag plugins
I've been here for over 15 years and still haven't finished my game.
>>582363368he isnt famous for that
>>582363635he is famous for making it despite being an illiterate poorfag carpenter
>>582363495Post Progress, Pal?
>>582363852i just opened unity hub give me a second!
>>582363617I haven't even started mine
and so begins..exRAVENpretty bitchin name right?!?
>>582363058i only have a talent in atonal atmospheric or esoteric meme musichttps://vocaroo.com/1bZd8Tp5hr0d
>>582363058Comment on their entry and ask if they're interested?
Just wasted 2 hours doing nothing.
>>582364660>i only have a talent in atonal atmospheric or esoteric meme music
>>582365445did you like it?
>>582365212I took a massive shit, it happens
>>582363617one of my gravest mistakes is discovering aggy in 2014, bouncing off until 2021I still remember a guy making an fps spellcasting game with pixel drawingsmaybe it was wizordum guy
How much are gamers willing to pay for a lolige?
>>582366007$5, but thats kinda $6.99 if you think about it...
>>582366007I be shocked if peepo pay 5 bucks for dis mane
I'm very disconnected from culture, discovery feeds of interests and ideas divergent from my own.I live in a bubble, twitch, discord, 4chan, some manga. youtube(mostly technical and gaming feed)How do I branch out? like say flipping channels randomly in the tv, not knowing what you get. go random. discover and see NEW things. It's important for creativity.
>>582366274>>582366332$7.99 it is then
>>582366515terrible attitude for a supposed Creator, you are basically asking how you take your skin off so you can wear someone else'ssome of you are so lost
So Cris... What have we learnt with that new game? Did we BTFO japon already?
>>582366007>doesn't listen to any deep critique and concern about game designI've seen many aggy games flop this way.
>>582366743But I did thoughbeit?
>>582366515Go outside. You don't have to talk to anyone there. Just go to museums, cultural events, and landmarks. Absorb what has already happened in the world and see if some of those happenings can be put into a game as mechanics/characters/whatever.
>>582366662kek, bullshit. all creatives recommend exposure to many different ideas and themes. the human mind's ability to combine and reshape ideas to new forms is what made countless classics, scientific discoveries. inspiration.
>>582366981All you need. One day you'll get it.
>>58236600760$. a indie revolutionwe control the means of production remember your catering toward the epstien class so price accordingly
>>582366007incoming 1k reviews
>>582366981That's what subcreators do. They have no spark of their own so they take from everyone else and slop it together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpRsX2Ka5BMWhy is this the first result for Puyo Puyo on YouTube (or at least newpipe) and why is 2-300% of Itch shit like this? It's also very EPI-coded
>>582366515What does "4chan" mean here? You DO go to other boards to steal inspiration from right?
WIP. I kinda like the look of a partially see-through UI element while the game continues in the background.
>>582367565>Hi I'm just wondering if I can fap to this, okay thankskek gooners
>>582367637Barely, only tg tb.hv and a are my media boards but both of these media forms are very stagnant in their AAA spaces
>>582366007sorry i lied i pretended to like the game but i was humblecrabbing and i wont buyt it sry but not sry
>>582368123Well thats an easy start point then. Go check out /tv/ and /lit/ at least. I'm sure non media related ones can be inspirational too, go check out /ck/, /biz/, /fit/ etc idk
>>582367521>They have no spark of their own so they take from everyone else and slop it together.A take about unoriginality, assembled from stock parts. Protocol: synthetic.
>>582368223>humblecrabbingwhat
>the humble crustacean
I think we lost the spark, the joy, the soul. No one can do "protocol" jokes anymore.
computer reboot the protocal
Are we still making fun of shade protocol for stalking somebody over AI slop?
>>582369260I mean, you get 500k in kickstarter funds for a game that's AI generated and start 4chan drama that kind of smell tends to stick no matter how hard you try to quiet.
>>582369260>weone guy (tranny)
the poster below me is so retarted he could drown in a glass of water
>>582369606rude
>>582369606Good thing I dont have a glass of water
>>582369582Am Xe still making fun of shade protocol for stalking somebody over AI slop?
>>582367975i swear westoids are some of the most cucked creatures in existence
I really want to make it with this game dev shit but the stress and insomnia is quite bad. Hurts to know that I probably could make it if I gave it my all, but that would probably take 5-10 years and it would just not be a fun process honestly. Making stuff is fun, the grind is not fun.
>>582369832Yeah, xe are still making fun of the game that stalked somebody and started 4chan drama over AI generated slop.
My game has sold 3 copies.
We're building it up to break it back downWe're building it up to burn it downWe can't wait to burn it to the ground
still dunno how to feel over THAT one fag actually becoming a yesdev while i still have nothing but ideas
I just had a great idea...
>>582370751i'm gmi
>>582370751
>>582370751start with pong
>>582341181>>582350153>>582350578>>582356864Thank you friends!
>>582371228Gentlemen, the system picks it up.
(lol) :D
>>582371279happy b day marmo ur parents had secks one month before mines
is there any downsides to just using a dictionary for everything in godot? just slapping infinite variables to it as you go along, it's so convenient...
>>582372885you lose type safety, you lose auto-complete and if it's not obvious who's using it you may have to infer all possible dictionary keys by searching several files
>>582370751are they good ideas at least?
Guys, what if I sell minecraft models of goku and other anime and comic heroes?
>>582373686why don't you polish chicuelas and sell that?
>>582373686yep, you should to thatgreat idea
>>582373686
>>582373686He's getting so Powerful
My haitian neighbors are making some weird bbq that smells like wet dogs
>>582376028game idea
>>582376028>haitian neighborsare you from sao paulo
>Nested typed collections are not supportedNigger what?
>Gave Claude access to all of the PCs on my network and he set me up a local AI cluster with a total of 240gb of ramNow I can make my game
>>582377018ok, this is epic
>>582373282no :(
>>582376961how can you get types from Dict[typeA, typeB] but not from Dict[typeA, Array[TypeB]]it's like they actively dont want to support that feature for some childish reason
>>582377018why would you need this?
>>582377018cant wait for your 0.1 token per second
>>582377327Claude refuses to program titty jiggle physics
>>582377546lmao i had the same issue
1/2
>>582369680That's the retarded part
>>5823777802/2i fucking love AI, 4-5 months of work compressed into 3 days at my job so I can spend more time working on my game
>>582377546In unreal there's a a FOSS plugin for this
AI will only become more expensive.>if that happens I'll just run locallyGood luck, GPUs are only becoming more expensive.
>>582378401Chinks will figure it out just so that the US labs will have burned billions of dollars for nothing.
>>582377780>>582377943Fuck you and your kind. Can't wait to trawl through your 13,000 lines of new code to find out why your release is fucking things up in production because when I ask you you just say "uhhh dont know Claude handled that" and our boss hasn't figured out yet that you need to be fired
>>582378590>"uhhh dont know Claude handled that" And guess what? Claude will also handle the prod fires as well... also my boss pays for the company's AI bill. We are encouraged to use AI as much as possible to ship faster.
can i cycle between free agents in the same projectlike use 100% of gemini free then use claude then whatever the chatgpt one is called
>>582379009For separate tasks, yes. But you can't really resume the same context/session across agents. So plan accordingly.
>>582378701>And guess what? Claude will also handle the prod fires as well..B-B-B-BBAAASED
If the AI bubble bursts before I finish my project I will kill myself
>>582379163Quite literally we have a gdb_config script that catches the prod C++ backend crashes, pings a Slack webhook, then a bot picks up the stack trace and copies it into Claude verbatim which produces a fix, runs a test suite, and ships to prod then pushes an event back to the master server to deploy the fix and restart the instances. Automated vibecoded prod fixes.
https://x.com/LBER_Dev/status/2103655606045622648
Join the first /agdg/ juan (Just use AI, nigga) jam. Create a game using only AI during this weekend!https://itch.io/jam/agdg-juan-jam
>>582379484absolute KINO
>shadowdrop a shitty vibecoded game to test steam release process>27 people played the demo>26 wishlistsshould have made an actual good game I guess
would you like to join that AI only jam?be honest
I will make it.
>>582380038I would, but only if it's after v3 expo.
>>582379682404...
>>582379484>red schoolgirl backpack emojikanna...
>>582380358Blocked in India & China, sorry.
>>582269881not really doe, people back then used premade asset packs and stuff, which is a lot worse than ai generating something novel.
>>582379682>>582380358what should be the main theme? or let it open?
>>582381207containers with yellow liquid such as honey or gold. pots filled with gold and honey
a honey pot so to speak
>>582381560censor this please
please handhold me through creating decent enemies for a 3D godot project, i need a youtube video man
# /agdg/ JUAN jamThe very first AI only /agdg/ game jam is here! Make a game using only AI agents this weekend and learn this new way to create games.# Rules- All games must have a webgl build
>>582379431Basically Claude's dream customer. Once they want to pull the rug and start anally raping their customers in the ass on token pricing to finally generate revenue, said customers will have no choice but to pay up. Given that their engineering team is literally unable to maintain the code if they even wanted to when everything over the past few years has been built and patched by Claude and only LLMs have the means the feasibly parse the millions of lines of code it's shat out over that time.
>>582379682@betz PLEASE SHUT THIS DOWN!!! This compromises the integrity of v3Expo and it's ran by SCHIZOS!
>>582381879Tbh we only spend like $15k-$20k monthly on tokens depending on how much stuff we have to get done and the company reduced the team from 24 to 12 people by firing 12 people who refused to vibecode.
>>582381560this. the general has fallenit's over
>>582298582Will you create and finish Scramble Vice before the dev?
i figured it out if you want to tell browns from whites when talking about aiask about token usenew racism just dropped sweetie
>>582382803the whole concept of tokens is brown coded
Join if you want to have some funhttps://itch.io/jam/agdg-juan-jamThe dates are all fucked up
okay, what if my road to victory is just learning digital marketing so I can market my own games to normies online?
>>582382964i have been found out
A game where you find a needle in a haystack
>>582383095marketing is one of the most important skills to ever have in the modern age. its so powerful you could make it without a game
>>582383095cris why cry
2 games submitted alreadywe did it reddit
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/the-door-problem-of-combat-design
>>582383273its never over. he finally did it and has something decent.too bad! now you need to promote it!
>>582383056Addered a new optional rule>- [OPTIONAL] show the whole prompt/project/conversation
>>582383790lol
Fuck, there is no free plan on this antigravity thing?
I always prided myself on not being envious or having a crab mentality but seeing scarlet skips and the wolfgirl family game do so well has me feeling a spark of it very deep within my soul
just waiting for claude sonnet to update to 5.5 before continuing work on my game... slow proggy but eta is "coming weeks" so...
>>582384249scarlet skips is the best possible game people already forgot about it he got in and cashed out
putting together the main character mood board; it's important that players are able to relate and feel seen when walking by mirrors.
>>582384175>antigravitygemini is the most terrible jeet coded AI model out there. may as well put a bullet in your head.The only thing google has going for it is nanobana.
>>582383514https://youtu.be/iYrBJ7eLtUY
>>582384742>The only thing google has going for it is nanobana.Their gemma 4 31b isnt bad for non-coding uses if you want something that can fit on a small(ish) local setup
>>582385153>gemma 4 31b>31b>small-ishcalm down, mister moneybags.
>>582384532yeah cause its barely a game
>>582384532all you need is that attention-grabbing 4 second intro that shows tits n ass in much higher animation fidelity than the rest of the "game". that's literally it. instant smash hit.
Progress:Designed a game for the AI jam. Now my agent is working on it.
>>582387398holy shit can i have your prompt sir??? i dont know how to start
AI more like Gay-I
>>582383056Oh, so if I started vibing a game today it would qualify? Hmm maybe I will
Sorry cris, but I'm coming for your crown. 5% more of my weekly Codex usage and this AI jam is mine.
can we have more proggy less ai next thread
>>582379682>>582381842Thats a fun shitty idea
>cris releases a incremental game that has everything unlocked so it actually has no incremental part
>>582390282A decremental game
>>582381842>- All games must have a webgl buildWhat does this mean
>>582390282>>582390446a MENTAL game amiright?
>>582390497They play in the browser.
>>582390446hold on a second. I sense kino potential
>>582390497you must be able to play it on the builtin itchio web player
I never vibecoded but the game I'm making for the jam is getting pretty cool
>>582390497>t. most experienced slopper
exRAVEN is coming along coolbut so far all i have is a name and a dream and a empty project
I hate shilling my game...
>>582392009why? thats the time when you should feel the most proud
Developed in 57 minutes. https://kritzinger.itch.io/you-will-play-the-aislop-and-like-it
>>582392771this is what exRAVEN is suppose to be wtf bros it cant be happening
>>582392949you can mog that shit with 3 prompts
>>582392771I am unironically playing this right now
Really? 2 hours of work per week? 3k locs per week?
>>582392009Wonder how much of a disaster it would be if I got a clanker to do the shilling for me
>>582393592a stupid ass clanker is more likable than anyone here
>>582392771are you going add textures to the weapons?
>>582392771>devlogKekIf the AI was a chef, it would be Gordon Ramsey, and I would be working on my hobby farm (I haven't even made it to the kitchen yet)
I'll not submit my game to the jam, my weekly limit already ended and is still too barebones.But I'll prolly make it a full game because I liked the idea, without using AI obviously.
>>582392771Clankers are funny. This shit is the kind of game an artist with bad code and game design skills would make. Art is cool but no real game. All the UI is using html KEK you can select the items on HUD, even the player's names.
>>582394365We're getting a reset.
>>582394704I'm using google's one, with the free plan
>>582394680i wanted to name my guy a bad word but couldnt :(
>my game would require a neuralink to be enjoyable to play by the average gamerm-maybe in 30 years
>>582392771Its so mcfucking over
why does everyone on here post bocchi the rock?
>>582395925The Ascended post nagatoro
>>582395925cuz bocchi is us sis
It decided to make the game look like unreal tournament in this most recent run. At least the weapons have textures now.
>>582396461holy kino
I messaged a family member yesterday and they left me on read
>>582397072gigachad shit
>>582396461Good job. Looks like us snail cats are a dying breed. My command over AI is pretty shitty. I just use it to help me write code faster.
>>582397221I don't do anything special. I just tell it to make game.
>>582397221save snail cats
>>582395925I'm in the timeline that she feared
I started to learn an engine, took notes as I went along reading the basic movement tutorialwhen I started an empty project to recreate it I found myself constantly looking back at my notes, no difference in looking at a guide to figure out what to dois this normal to not retain everything you just went over or am I still not learning even when writing things down?
>>582397537yeah its fucked because you followed a tutorial so in essence you'll only ever be able to make a tutorial you need to take the wheels off and start messing around break some projectsmake backups its the only way to grow
>>582397406What are you using?
>>582397537tutorials are worthless if you really want to learn, they could be helpful if you want to know the absolute basics or to see how things are done but once you pass that the best way to learn is by reading the documentationif you can make something by only reading it you are ready
>>582398150Chatgpt (Codex, desktop)It just does stuff if you tell it /goal.
>>582397221>help you write code fasterthis. get AI to make you an addictive code typing game so your WPM goes up.
>>582392771add some kind of trail from the mech boosters and the perceived production values will skyrocket
NEW THREAD>>582398735>>582398735>>582398735
>>582397221if you dont know where to start unironically think like a pajeet with jeet tier prompts
>>582392771??? this looks awful, and mainly from whoever is playing using 6,000 sensitivityis that an npc playing?>>582393420>locs???is that a really unintelligent way of saying>loc?>l's of c???
>>582397643I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to implement running, gave up and looked it upit's a simple thing to implement but for whatever reason it's not working for memaybe I'm retarded>>582398173I find documentation to be difficult to understand and how to apply to game making unfortunatelyI'll try docs again. If I fail I'm picking back up smoking
>>582400402--- >>582400763
>>582400402your suppose to smoke while devving breh like toilekns
>>582400402>but for whatever reason it's not working for methen the problem is somewhere else, keep changing things until you notice something different
My Godot game dev journey starts tomorrow. I have tutorials and small plans for a realistic scope that I hope to achieve by the end of the month. If I figure out how to AI slop code for free, I'd do bits of that if it worked out alright.
>>582349537If you look at the data it’s not the case. Games that get featured (>10 reviews) remains the same on Steam for years. Only the amount of games getting no reviews increases. Also AI has not caused any significant spike in Steam releases, it still follows the same exponential it was on since 2013.