Previous thread: >>582034646 I never wanted this thread edition!>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:PREVIEW - Upcoming Balance Changeshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/preview-upcoming-balance-changes/125587Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:The Feast of Grimnir returns! Patch 6.12.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-feast-of-grimnir-returns-patch-6-12-0-patch-notes/125081>Acknowledged but barely discussed :Left4DeadDeep Rock GalacticKilling FloorPaydayEarth Defense ForceWWZThe Outlast TrialsBarotraumaNo More Room in Hell 2Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2Jump Spaceand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Open your mouth, rat trannyI'm bursting for a piss
True Grit?More like True Shit!
So the math of the meme max impact Cruncher is 255 impact (25% + 60% + 125% * 1.1) providing it has at least Branx impact values. That should be just enough to stagger lock a Plague Ogryn and easily a Chaos Spawn. Not sure it will work on pink and stimmed havoc modifiers.
do you think DT has entered PD2 levels of degeneracy
>>582416891>That should be just enough to stagger lock a Plague Ogryn and easily a Chaos SpawnDoesn't that still require you bull rush into them to set up the initial stun? I don't know the exact math on shovel punches, but I do know they need setup to stunlock bosses.
>>582417032Plague Ogryn has 200 stagger threshold and 50 stagger reduction, so I'm making the assumption it will just overwhelm it with the pure impact value.
>>582416891You get an extra 10% stagger with weakspot hits too
Brain burst really needs a buff and I don't think new +20% blitz damage node will be enough.
>>582416891That'd be cool. I hope they didn't intentionally nerf the stagger.I say that since the devs have intentionally taken away and prevented ogryn from being able to stagger lock monstrosities before.Worse case scenario, the hammer does come with good impact stats that let him stun bosses reliably, but then it gets nerfed anyway because people get mad that ogryn gets to feel like ogryn.
>>582417627After what they did to the slap/uppercut, I won't count on them not to gimp the potentially only fun thing about the bonker
>>582417432Yeah the blitz damage node is cool and all but I it does seriously need a serious base damage buff.Like if they want to keep the long charge time on brain burst at least let it reliably kill enemies.Best way to do this would be to give brain burst the "instant death" tag on some enemies. Like how ogryn rocks are hard coded to always 1 shot mutants and I think all specials.It should be the same way for brain burst.Also a fun modifier they should add is the one from Mortis Trials, you know the one where you BB an enemy, then 10 random other enemies also get BB'd as well.Just make it slightly weaker version, like the skilltree node only lets you brain burst 4-5 additional enemies around the initial target.
>>582417824Nah just give it like 50% more damage and make kinetic flayer deal half the damage
>>582417824At least scale charge time with target's hp so mooks pop almost instantly.
>>582417032>>582417180I just realised I could just reach those values with Thrust and Limbsplitter on the Branx. Unfortunately it does not work, so I'm assuming it requires a bespoke override or explosion to work. I was using Kuli's enemy types guide for reference.
Just got my Auric Storm Survivor, maelstrom is so fun with a competent teamI will continue to just use Tech-Warrior cause I think it sounds cool though
I fell for the meme and brought anti-infested weapons to rotten armorIts carapace+flak as usual
I'm semi-new at DT and started playing Auric's regularly.Scoreboards with gigantic damage and kill counts like this >>582398959are a little confusing to me.I can semi-reliably get 250-350k damage on a Rampage Scum or 300-350k on a Electro staff Psyker, but shit like 550k damage on a Zealot seems implausible to me. I can't imagine how I'd be slashing around in melee literally twice as much as on my Scum, but I do see other mostly-melee players do similar 500k+ damage. Is this because they're using their ranged weapon very frequently? I suspect I tend too often to slide towards enemies to get into melee quicker when instead I should be shooting some giga gun.
>>582423481If the mission takes a long time your damage number will be higher
>>582422737>carapace>not unyieldingCRUSHERS could be here
>>582422737Iirc didn't they only change it so that the LIMBS of the enemies are counted as Infested armor and therest is still Carapace? Including the head and the base armor type?Honestly was just a pointless modifier change to be. At least feels that way.
>>582423990I mean rotten enemies armor types
>>582424973I mean, I don't know what weapons you brought and where did you hit them, take a look at the pic relatedStill I'd just ignore hyper-speccing vs Rotten Armor, just bring your usual stuff
hmm someone has a hot mic that's annoying. Should i spend 5 seconds to mute the faggot? Or should i spend 5 minutes complaining about it in chat and ragequit?
Speaking of mics. There's one player who I think is called Alpharius or something. Euro ESL guy. Every time I meet him in Auric he's in a bad mood and complains in voice chat. Like we're doing perfectly fine, no issues what so ever but he'll still find something to complain about. And when I ask what he's so upset about, he'll just call me retarded. It's like he overdosed on 4chan. Do you ever meet people like that who leave an impression and you keep running into them? Little characters.
>>582426298>he has voice chat enabledAh, I take it you don't play on EU with all the slavgroids. Must be fun huh>>582426539>no issues what so ever but he'll still find something to complain aboutHad a friend with anger issues who'd rage at his teammates over the most trivial shit, it was hard to listen to him at times.>Do you ever meet people like that who leave an impressionThere's this one fucking zealot player on EU with like 2k+ level and an ogryn voice mod. Pretty cool guy, I run into him from time to time and it's a blast every time
bonjour protocole
>>582427245un ptit kebab chef?
>>582427790vous m'avez manqué Jean-Kaaris, presqu'autant qu'un Pape à Paris !
>>582427847voulez-vous des oignons ?
>>582428146le chemin oignon-foutre de rat a enfin été débarrassé de cette sale salade dans le prochain patch
>>582428230
>>582423481havoc missions take like 40s to an hour, because theyre slogfests
SOMEONE CALL FOR A BOOM
>>582428807no...
>>582428230mange mon ami, c'est une belle journee pour jouer au havoque
>>582428596>40si am speed
THE RATJEET IS FRENCH>THE RATJEET IS FRENCHTHE RATJEET IS FRENCH>THE RATJEET IS FRENCHTHE RATJEET IS FRENCH>THE RATJEET IS FRENCHTHE RATJEET IS FRENCH>THE RATJEET IS FRENCH
>>582416147Hey bros, I haven't checked in like a solid 3~ years. Can I get a QRD on poxclick?>Have they rebalanced the weapons so it's not "everyone use the same guy no matter what">Have they added red items (or a new equivalent) for endgame loadoutsAlso I saw they added Skitarii as a DLC, is it fun?
>>582430612>Have they rebalanced the weapons so it's not "everyone use the same guy no matter what"Depends on what difficulty you mean, almost everything is useable in auric though>Have they added red items (or a new equivalent) for endgame loadoutslmao no>Also I saw they added Skitarii as a DLC, is it fun?Yes it's great
>>582430612Pretty much anything is viable except in the super hardcore difficulty they added (Havoc).There are no reds but you can fully customize any weapon you own with whatever perks/blessings you want. Honestly there is not much point in adding them at the moment since it would just cause more powercreep.All 3 dlc classes are pretty fun.
ITS DARKTIDE TIME!!!
>>582430612A new huge balance patch is coming out in two days so the current state doesnt really matter
Guys im having a really tough time killing hordes. I've tried heavy attacking but it just keeps doing this vertical swings, what should i do?
>>582430869>>582430954>>582432525>Weapons are balancedNice>No redsHoly fuck are they for real?>Skitarii is goodHell yeah love me Mechanicus
>>582432757yeah red weapons would be meaningless at this point because you can freely choose the max level perk and blessing
>>582433092If they're meaningless I'd rather they be in the game, there's something really comfy about seeing max stat numbers with a distinct quality color (hell red is the color of Mars anyway)
>>582433219kys yourself
do I need to reach 30 stacks 50 times to get this one? I tried doing it casually but it aint working
>>582433491Read the description carefully, 50 times in A SINGLE MISSION. If you don't have 50 times after a mission ends, it'll reset back to zero like that.
>>582433720I know that, thats not what I'm asking
is there any helbore lasguns marks that dont take fucking forever to pull out?
>>582433881Yes, you need 30 stacks to count as one.
>>582432525Is it really “huge” though
>>582433902You actually can charge helbore before whole swap animation finishes and the first shot is also quite accurate even hip firing anyway.
>>582433491If you have the powerdrive subnode you should get it in no time on any moderately long mission
>>582433902Yea this one *unzips dick*
>>582435162>>582434182
>>582435260It's ergonomic.
>>582436887travel-size?
this general since august 30th
>>582427152>Ah, I take it you don't play on EU with all the slavgroids.Not him, but I do. And I basically never see russians anyway. Let alone ones who are gangraping their mic.Everytime I have some player who is breathing into their mic like they are fucking Darth Vader, it's always a fucking globie and with english letters.
Raped that freak
alright bros time to log on and do some fucking epic light attacks!!!!!!!!!!
>>582434182Poxburster and piss toughness nerf are pretty big, at least for the vast majority of shitters who crutch on spill damage protection
>>582439305yepgonna be a lot more sniped/bursted psykers, I'll tell you that much
I'm so happy Ratjeet is raping that one guy in our beautiful general every day
whats da lore on dem schizies
The rat tranny is just relying on pity attention at this point
Just ignore him, if the mods don't wanna do anything about him don't give him attention.Don't reply to him, don't mention him. Let him scream to himself.
who the fuck are you even talking about
>>582440507>if the mods don't wanna do anything about himI've said it before and I'll say it again, this general is so fucking brown, they'd rather surround themselves with this sub-human's shitposts than hit report. The jannies won't delete posts they don't know about.
>>582440620Ratjeet grew on me while you gradually annoy me more and more. at least he posts about the game instead of nonstop bringing up meta topics
>>582440978Stop pretending to be other people, ratjeet.
>>582440620I feel like they just gave up seeing how he's ban evading. Also, people can tell when someone's genuinely trying to talk about the game vs when someone's stirring shit about a game he doesn't even play just because he got his izzat hurt and he's trying to ruin the place. Mentally ill freak.
>>582440507>>582440620He gets bitch slapped with a ban every time he acts uppity
>>582441039He doesn't pretend, he crawls up inside their asshole and puppets them like some kind of obscene anal-ratatouille for shitposting.
>>582441268Not anymore, been a hot minute since I've seen him get banned.
can someone please point at three ratjeet posts. i literally unironically have nofucking idea what you are talking about
>>582441039He's really sensitive about getting reported>>582441389He got bitchslapped into submission
>give me attention!No.
>>582441531Exactly three? Sure, picrel.Samefag shitstirring: >>579198140 >>579198262 >>579198542Bonus informative post: >>579231570b4k archives show [deleted] next to them, if you want to verify this retard getting banned repeatedly yourself.He's the local schizo retard that constantly tries to stir shit, samefags (to a massive extent), "raped his ass", and concern trolls. His first major event was in >>579147328 where he spent nineteen barely interrupted hours shitting up the thread.
>>582441531There's a little bit of ratjeet in every post, according to some
>>582441531It's a made up character some anons like to invoke. It's not real. Anyone I don't like is called "ratjeet", that's all it is.
>>582442270i was mostly talking about in this thread oh whatever i dont care
>>582442270>raped his assThat's just rat jeet copying another shitposter. Most of his idiosyncracies are copied from other posters because he has no creativity or talents
*spams light attacks at your post*
>>582442489He latched onto light attacks recently (spent several posts just last thread shitposting about it to no avail) and then got upset at the notion of being reported.>>582442630True enough, but that doesn't take way from the truly neon-orange-diarrhea-tier quality of those posts.
>>582442489>oh whatever i dont carethis is the only correct take.I don't know which one is worse, the perpetrator himself, or the obsessed retards constantly bringing it up and referencing it. Which only gives it more energy. Which is what I'm doing right now so I'll stop.
>>582442775>breaking the US lawwhat the helly? are you a criminal?
>582442748This is assuredly ratjeet concern trolling btw. Nobody defends that fucking deformed freak.>>582442775>ban evading
>>582442874He posted CP
>>582442916call of duty Combat Points
and there he goes
yall saw nothing >>582442916don't make shit up, ratjeet
>>582437838>Everytime I have some player who is breathing into their mic like they are fucking Darth Vader, it's always a fucking globie and with english letters.PS5 controllers have built-in microphones.
fuck the mentally ill rat tranny talk about the gameSo the Cruncher is meant to be a primarily crowd-control weapon, right? The light attacks seem to be a weird bonk-sweep-sweep-bonk pattern, and the heavies don't deal more damage than the Branx pickaxe. The blessings also seem to be non-damage oriented with like 2 damage-increasing ones, and that's me being polite and considering Limbsplitter to be a viable blessing.Thoughts?
>>582444524Maybe you can do some crazy infinite crowd control using unstoppable force and maybe you can also use it to overhead multiple enemies
>>582444524It definitely doesn't have as much hordeclear potential for lack of Skullcrusher/Headtaker+Slaughterer, so it'll be better off as a defensive tool for ranged Ogryn or main weapon for a tauntgryn? The most speculated thing about it is whether it can stunlock bosses, which will be funny, but sw*des hate fun so idk if it will happen.
>>582445341>whether it can stunlock bossesGod I wish sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHKymlJIjM
>>582444524I'm kinda hoping the numbers on gameslantern are just the base and don't include the damage increase the longer you hold your heavy.But besides that the weapon is going to live or die by it's heavy attack cleave value. If it's not higher than Karsolas it's DoA
>>582445127>overhead multiple enemiesThat depends on whether the attack has inbuilt cleave already, I don't know if the heavies are going to be fast enough to not let any chip damage through while you charge up, guess we will see
ayo
>>582446027i have like 9
>>582446221its my first one alright
>>582446027wait till you roll a +2 wounds curio
>>582445848>don't include the damage increase the longer you hold your heavy.Oh they don't, that's for sure. Funny you mention that, I completely forgot about that - I just associated it with the special attack lol>cleaveIt needs to be 5 motherfuckers at least, or there's no point to it
>>582445880I'm imagining setting it up with a taunt and then keeping them all staggered while dropping in overheads where possible. However useful that is
>>582446027collecting these will be hell
>>582447982Buy random curios with melk points
>>582447982There's a cheat that checks the shops of all characters for you.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1026I recommend using this with Psych Ward to make going into char select and playing missions almost seamless (it can be a bit buggy at times).
are havoc ranks resetting on tuesday?
>>582448343Dropping to the next -10, not fully resetting. But most likely yeah, they do this with every update they consider to be "major".
Itty Bitty Skitty Committee
Any anons tried out the HUD studio mod yet? How does it compare to custom HUD and similar options?
>>582450214Nah, I like the vanilla one especially now that they've upgraded it a little.I'd love to get some buff duration info near the center of my screen but I'm too lazy for that
>>582443425True, but if the person is playing on PC using steam, it'd show a steam logo. Also still doesn't change the fact most globies who do hotbox their mic are just using english letter and not cyrillic.And I say this as a person who plays exclusively on the EU servers.
>>582445341>>582445639I looked into this before, the special attack has to coded as an explosion attack or stagger reduction bypass. You can still stunlock daemonhost and chaos spawn with the mk3 shove special with a hh impactful+slam build.
>>582451034I wasn't arguing against you, just providing additional info.
>>582450903>I'd love to get some buff duration info near the center of my screenOh yeah, are there some lightweight mods for that? I'm also fine with vanilla hud but some important effects on long CD like Until Death i would like to have in a more obvious spot.
>Melee Psyker loses a stamina>Also hit with a universal 10% melee damage nerfHow do I cope with this change, fellow melee nerds?
>>582451573That's fair, sorry for the aggressive tone.
>>582451684>lightweight mods for thatnot any that I've found, just some cringe modular over-complicated bullshit that I cba dealing withlemme know if you find something lol
>>582451787Play the mage class the way it's supposed to be played
>>582451992>>582451573Wholesome and white-coded
>>582452052Absolutely not
>new update>ripper guns inverted stability stat still not fixed by the looks of it>no damage buffs or ADM value tweaks to give it more Unyielding damage>ogryn's Heavyweight talent still doesn't apply to all monstrositiesOgryn bros?...
>>582452574its okay we got a new stick to bonk things with
>>582451992raped his ass
>>582452574>Ogryn bros?...we heredead and floating in the water
>>582452574>ripper guns inverted stability statqrd?
>gold toughness had to be nerfed because sister of battle is going to have gold toughnessit's true, I saw it in a dream
>>582451787yeah its gay as shit man. melee psyker is the only ethical way of playing him, but for somereason fartshark wants everyone to play inferno psykerhomo type shit fr fr
>>582452918It's exactly as it sounds; the higher your stability, the higher recoil and reduced accuracy you will have and the lower your stability, the less recoil and more accuracy you will have.
>get pounced by pox hound >ping it once since its auric and teammates are almost never sentient >some fucking retard gets triggered over the single ping and starts writing an essay in the chat auric never ceases to amaze me
>>582451684>>582452009In an ideal world, you could choose certain skills and have their icons elongated or moved on your screen to highlight them in Vanilla.
>>582454004>doxingAlso I saw wesker posted here before, was behaving like a nigger too iirc
>>582454004I am amazed people find players like this frequently enough that I see 1 or 2 examples every time I check a thread here.I think the only time I ran into a salt lord on Aurics was a 1500+ zealot named Sally that got ass mad about the whole team dying at the end of a mission. Salty Sally went down second after the psyker nuked themselves, and for some reason put the entirety of the blame on the solo queue arbites we got paired up with. For the life of me I cannot figure out why someone would care enough about the results of an Auric match to start shit talking other players, much less care about Auric results when they're over 1500 levels deep on one character. It's not like anything important is on the line here, these salty rejects gotta learn to chill out.
>>582455590>SallyIt's Betty, you son of a pig
>>582449327Made me chuckle
>>582454204>doxingThis isn't doxing you fucking retard, someones public username isn't a "dox"Genuinely, return to whence you came
>>582454004Type of shit Wesker would say to Chris >>582454204>doxingZoomers see a screen name and just can't help themselves, can they?
>>582449327Itty bitty skitty and a SoBItty bitty skitty and a SoB
>>582456528but you’re talking like a zoomer/alphoomer
>>582456586What was the original goal of that whole thing anyway? Was it like a team building exercise or something?
Skitarii is way too strong for how little you have to do. It's not even that fun to play him because he just completely trivializes anything.I'm not exactly sure how to really put it, but its like if Veteran inputs one thing then he gets one kill. But when Skitarii does one input he kills five things. Its pretty fucking stupid and not fun in the long run.
>>582459136The joke is that offices are filled with women that don't actually do any work
>>582460989Isn't skit getting nerfed? Or mostly nerfed I guess?
>>582456528>>582455964You never know what the dark net 4chan hackers might do with information like that
>>582461928I've already stolen all their melk bux.
>>582454004That counts as an essay? Either way that Wesker needs thicker skin.
>>582461405Not at all as far as i remember its just chudclaw. It'll still one-shot crushers and all that. I'm also mostly thinking of Arc weapons. His Voice of command ability, Arc maul and Arc rifle are braindead and they blow up screens of enemies with ease.I'm sounding real whiny here, which isn't my intent. It's not like i find him extremely overpowered i just find him really really boring to play.
>>582462726Ah yeah, I get what you mean about the arc stuff honestly. Any time I get paired up with someone running something focused on the arc rifle I feel like I need to inject my brain with some dopamine cus I'm sure as hell not gonna get it from whatever is about to go down in that lobby.
>>582461928Fucked his mom, he's getting a new stepdad for Christmas
>>582461405It's mostly that his blitzes are kinda shit. They don't really do damage on their own (other than inferno skull that only kills weak enemies anyway and takes a long time to do it) and you don't even get a lot of uses or regenerate uses for the utility blitzes. It's not like Vet that can spam smoke all day without ever touching a nade box.It's hard to justify losing the skull for arc grenades or the shield, and that's before you even factor in bringing the medical skull (which yes, optimally you shouldn't take, but it's insurance)
>>582441340do you get off that kind of shit, you sick bastard
I forgot how much I hate the branx's attack chain. I hope that the hammer has better horde clear.
With each and every day, we are getting closer to this pic.There is one dedicated schizo anon in this general that has nearly an encyclopedic knowledge about the ratjeet and his posting habits.Once again, he wonned.I'm gonna fucking piss myself with laughter if at the very end it turns out they are the exact same person.
and here he is back from the ban
>>582465535>posts that image only ratjeet uses>insinuates ratjeet wonBan evading nigger
>>582465869>>582465871>proving my point
Are any of the new weapons going to be worth investing melkbux in to get a head-start on progress?
>>582466947>worth investing melkbuxBetter to just roll on Brunt weapons and upgrade them at Hadron at this point. Melk doesn't bring anything to the table unless you're starting on a fresh account, really. I'm wondering if they're gonna update Melk at some point, because there isn't any point to his currency or weeklies now that we can just make the items ourselves.
>>582460989I guess that's also why I don't why skitarii enjoyable.The class kinda plays itself as weird as it sounds. Especially if you use the noosphere skull.You don't need to think about specials like trappers, flamers or snipers. Hell, you don't even need to think about gunners, you just ping the bastard and the skull kills it in like 2 seconds as you look away and deal with the horde as you claw through a wall of armor with chud claw, or use volteic emitter to permanently stunlock everything.I've started playing my veteran more recently and I'm using the helbore and heavy sword in aurics (don't worry, I'm not taking the build into havoc) and it's honestly very fun build to run even if kinda sub optimal but as a whole the build works very well since all the weapons and abilities cover everything I need to survive.Helbore for sniping specials, gunner, trash shooters.Heavy sword for dealing with hordes and squishy elites and mutants.Kraks for all the carapace and bosses.And VoC helps to keep me and the team safe.Focus Fire gives extra damage to the team.But despite all these things, I still need to give an "in-put" and think as I play to not eat shit.With skitarii I can quite literally turn my brain off as I mindlessly mulch a horde with the transonic hordes as I let my servo skull to deal with the actual threats and all the minigames so I can keep slapping the horde, while then occasionally press F to not die.I don't know if I'll be proven right, but I think fatshark making skitarii might've been a terrible idea from a gameplay perspective and in the long run it might unironically whole of Darktide worse if they let this kind of gameplay profilerate and spread to other classes.It basically leads to very degenerate "don't care about anything" gameplay loop where you don't think.
>>582425718I brought a tac axe with infested perk. Which I think is very reasonable. The problem is that some light attacks were bouncing off carapace, damage was not great, and healthbars mod was showing carapace every time and not a single time infested (same as meat grinder with controlled chaos).So many people lied about it here and on forums, they fooled me. I was convinced it's a controlled chaos bug and real games had different enemies, but they are the same.
>>582465535You're not ratjeet... I am ratjeet.
>>582459136No, it was to show that many people in offices do very little work
>>582468516Will argue it depends on the build you play but yeah, most of their builds are pretty easily good. The weirdest one addition was being able to use servo-skull to autocomplete puzzles. It's neat but takes away a lot of the challenge, and is quite literally the game playing itself. I think even though a lot more people were hyped and like Skitarii more, a class like hive scum is much better for what darktide is.
Are we back?
>>582474327I missed u
>>582461928I need to have sex with that girl right NOW
>>582474716Only if you can carry her through a h40
>>582475262I’ll t-try my b-best… for her… and also her >>582474621…
>>582475262hot
What kind of stuff should I take to try and make Vet frags work?
>>582479673Malice or Heresy difficulty
>>582479739Oh..
>>582468516I still prefer power overload and VE, so noosy most of the time. I wish Redline capacitor was much better beside, like should have even higher capacitor regen so making micro manage redline stack with Noosy and claw more fun. And idk maybe have like STR buff based on number charges you have rather than on usage. Otherwise, typical flensing is still better overall because if pubs are bad, then over reliance on Noosy hurts Redline way more. This is because I like some passive supportive nodes on Skitarii left tree.Noosy is what I see when people want or love a pet or turret class to do everything for them without much input, just like how a short period of turrets were OP in PD2 and very ammo efficient. As usual, as long as something is strong and easy to use will beloved by lots of people since most are (proudly) casual.I agree with the other anon, Scum is what Fatshark or many devs should strive for, take some effort to play but the result is more rewarding.
>>582481446>noosy most of the timeI mean no noosy
>>582479673It's gonna underperform no matter what but I have a revolver crits setup to try and carry the slack with strong guys that does well in auric, don't bring that trash into havoc
>>582482282Are they actually likely bros? I like faith themed stuff like zealot and would insta buy
>>582454004just one ping
>>582454004Uh ohI ping what got me so when a teammate comes to rescue me they know there's a specific disabler in a crowd of dregs etc to prioritize first.Do people get offended when you ping something?I also habitually ping flamers so I can still see their outline even if they're obscuring my vision with fucking fire everywhere.
>>582483337>imagine all the cosmetic options we'll (never) get for Sister of Battle!The aesthetics of SoB are really cool. I don't need them specifically added, but I'd like more of the techno-knight, space-catholic theme available to classes.I think most of the reason Zealot is a popular choice is because of the class-fantasy and SoB would inherently be popular in the same way.
>>582454004What the fuck is up with niggers in this game and seething over the ping feature
>>582483337I think it's plausible, and there aren't a lot of plausible suggestions for new classes left.
>>582483337SoBs like Skitarii are one of the "break glass print money" DLCs they could make, surely they won't blow both consecutively?
>>582485959if it's cheat assisted or bound to lmb I will seethe
>>582483337If Fatshark likes money, yeah
>>582483337It’s on the table at this point I would say, plausible unique imperial classes are kind of running low, the rest of the stuff is pretty much remixes of what we have now
>>582446027>>582446275The truth is out there.
>>582487673Would people even use it?
>live near local high school>can hear homecoming music being blasted throughout whole neighborhood>know that those kids will go out and fuck tight pussy after the dance is over>I'm stuck at home with my wife who hates me playing vermintide, which I suck atjust kill me please
>>582487965Only memetyrdom Zealots, but that's quite a bonus for them since it frees up a curio slot for a more useful stat.
>>582487965I know I would have back when I was running martyrdom + thammer.
>>582488045most of those kids are certainly not doing that if recent stats are anything to go by
Just a smigger in damnation who kept running off alone and getting fucked up complain that my smoke vet wasn't doing enough anti-armour
>>582486853>>582486526I wouldn't be surprised if they caved and gave us volkite weapons at some point. You know, those holy relics that even astartes would be fortunate to ever see with their eyes, let alone have the opportunity to use.
The Ur Mr Gay movie
>>582491067>You know, those holy relicsThe Mechanicus has plenty, they just keep them to themselves. Ad Mech has dark age shit that could wipe out xenos on a genetic level.
>>582494859Pretty sure there’s nothing like that but yeah prominent forge worlds have a lot of crazy stuff they’re secretly hiding
Does the 10% melee nerf on psyker effect any breakpoints for the greatsword?
>>582496323Ya
>>582496323Na
>>582494417
>>582496323mebe
>>582494859>Ad Mech has dark age shit that could wipe out xenos on a genetic level.Yeah but they'd kill you for even thinking about them.
>>582497078>>582497446>>582497968
>>582498096https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRgKbDsVGU
>>582494859do they? wasn't shit like that lost to scrapcode, or locked away in some random underground vault on Mars?
>>582499449nah, people forget that Skitarii creation is Dark Age tech, some local Forge World will have STCs that can destroy entire planets or have a blueprint to mass produce a rare weapon but the leading Tech Priests is too much of brainlet to know
>>582498987Definitely drawn by a penised individual
>>582483337>Are they actually likely bros?I doubt since zealot exists. It is obvious that the zealot is supposed to be the "we have battle sisters at home" class.Also recently Owlcat revealed their new DLC companion.The miraculist, I woudn't be surprised if the next class turns out to be that. Since in the past both Owlcat and DT had that collab and both games released arbites roughly at the same time too.So the same happening with Miraculist is possible.Miraculist would clearly work like a faith based "psyker". Basically the cleric vs wizard.And that'd be a final nail in the coffin for the SoB if it happens.
>>582500125>mossayeah no shitkorean fakecel but otherwise /ourguy/
>>582500414Cleric would be cool
>>582484372kek
>>582499449No. Like >>582495118 says just about every forge world of note likely has ridiculous tech like that somewhere. Off the top of my head, two examples were the War of the Beast where it’s confirmed Mars had a super weapon that could wholesale destroy the fuck off huge Attack Moons of the Orks (they didn’t because they made up some bullshit about it not being safe for Terra due to the radius of effect it would have) and they busted out some vague super weapon that was able to destroy the foothold the interdimensional Lovecraftian horrors that emerged from the Echoing Vault during The Harrowing used to pass over when seemingly nothing else could. Of course, there’s assuredly more of these just waiting for an author to make up out of thin air if the narrative demands it. Both of these happened some 10k~ years ago in-universe so it’s likely they’ve managed to recover/rediscover even more tech like since then and have them hiding away somewhere. Or maybe they’ve fallen into a state of disrepair since then and no longer work. Who knows.
>>582500414What do you think a Sister of Battle is? They have strong belief in the Emperor like a Zealot, but they don't have the same features and thus gameplay potential as a zealot.They use more ranged weapons so would have more talents for that, and for balance would have less melee focused talents.They explicitly wear armour and so wouldn't be getting anything like Until Death or Martyrdom.They use flamers, true, but the Zealot Flamer fucking sucks and will probably still suck with a whopping 15% extra damage to burning enemies! Wowza! So they could have talents that make the actual flamer viable, or a Sister Flamer (the same way Arbitrator got additional shotguns even though there's already shotguns)
>>582501338>>582500414>zealot psyker>melee/mobile glasscannonIsn't that scum already? It functions as melee version of hordeclear (omniclear, really) and before the Pickpocket nerf it used to literally be psyker 2.0 but with a gun and shorter range>arbiogryn vet, pretty self explanatory>skitveteran 2.0, or a vet/psyker with the arc buildWe need a veteran zealot, and I'm not a SoBtranny but it sure as shit sounds like the sister/hybrid shooty and melee faith class is going to be next
>>582502227I think SoB could also be an Ogryn/Zealot, Ogryn being the premiere ranged class ;)They could have higher stagger on melee and higher health at cost of toughness, to simulate their power armour. They could have an ability that gives them huge ranged cleave and stagger for several seconds as they unload their flamer, bolter or autogun to clear hordes.
>>582502207>whopping 15% extra damage to burning enemies! Wowza!>https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a2d80d0f-9343-4762-aedb-e6b376a0105e/shoot-then-bonkThoughts?
>>582502207Just because sisters of battle exist, doesn't they will happen in Darktide.We already have zealot as a stand-in for them. It is not a coincidence why zealot of all classes has access to the Eviscerator and boltgun and flamer.
>>582502787>Ogryn being the premiere ranged classtrue, truebut don't forget we need some melee damage too, so the ogryn won't fit the bill :^)
>>582502227>>melee/mobile glasscannonMiraculist isn't going to be a melee class like zealot. It's going to be another "mage" class like psyker, basically how in DnD clerics are all basically using magic too, but they derive their power from their faith in their god, and then channel that power through themselves.That's what a miraculist will be.Sisters are never happening.
Trying focus target for the first time, bros was I throwing on weapon specialist this whole time
hilarious how just a few weeks ago I was accused of being ratjeet and called a clueless poser for saying PBB has been getting overbuffed and is hilariously OP now. People are now starting to catch on
>>582502227No I want ranged zealot caster edition
>>582503412NTA, wasn't there, but people usually get accused of ratjeetery when they sound like they just try to start shit or repeat a purposefully incendiary point of view for the 100th time without actually trying to discuss it.The main point of the jeet is that he doesn't play darktide, he fucking hates darktide and darktide players for rejecting him and not being into vermintide. He also has a vendetta against this general because he got ratioed here countless times and banned like twice or thrice.Just don't take it personal, and understand that people are so fucking sick of his shit that they lash out sometimes
>>582503469What would he cast?
I was using pbb before it became popular, it was already good before the buffs.
>>582503917Iunno, they'll figure it out
>>582498096Can you repeat the question
>>582503921I don't use PBB because it should have never existed on ogryn as an ability. At best it should've been a Outcast Engineer gun style ability.
>>582496323>effectAffect, akchtyually. Hope that helps! Upvotes to the left, please.
>>582503721>Just don't take it personal, and understand that people are so fucking sick of his shit that they lash out sometimesYeah emotions run wild soemtimes I get it. Speaking of emotions can you imagine how I felt when I just wanted to talk about the game, and tried discussing PBB which at the time people were sleeping on and I was just called a shitposter by some schizophrenic obsessed faggot instead? And my whole intent, discussing the skill that I've found to be strong and few people talk about at the time, got turned into a total shitshow of some faggot insisting i'm doing it in bad faith, totally ruining any opportunities to talk about the video game I went to /vg/ for? but I get it dude, emotions run wild sometimes, sometimes we lash out and ruin a general haha.
>>582504283 "Effect" can be correct in that particular sentence too, it can effect a breakpoint i.e. bring about a breakpoint
>>582504751no, thats affect, affect is a verb, effect is a noun
>>582504652>sometimes we lash out and ruin a general haha.It's sad how this site forgot to NOT feed the troll, we wouldn't have any of that shit if we just ignored the motherfucker
Who tf actually dies to bosses lmaoooo
>>582504283I say this but I don’t say the last part and I don’t look like that
>>582504828dunning kruger moment. Google "effect verb"
>>582505040ironic
>>582505040>>582504828You both are dunning kruger, languages are fluid and the intended meaning of the word becomes the "official" meaning of the word; same goes for grammar. It's a matter of time before we drop the distinctions between your vs you're and hoard vs horde, since people are too retarded to learn the book definition anyway and just write down the approximation of what they heard. >words wordsPoint is - if you understood him, it doesn't matter whether it's affect or effect.
>>582505450Nigger I don't care I just didn't like how the faggot tried to correct someone for using a word that could technically have been correct
>>582504828both affect and effect can be a noun or a verb btw
>>582505561Nigger that was me and I was (clearly) joking.
>>582503363Yes
>>582505561>Does the 10% melee nerf on psyker (effect) any breakpoints for the greatsword?>Does the 10% melee nerf on psyker (bring about or cause) any breakpoints for the greatsword?>Does the 10% melee nerf on psyker (put into operation) any breakpoints for the greatsword?thats some engrish right there
So, how will the golden toughness changes AFFECT the meta? Will the veteran be picked at all?What about the relic zealot supportcucks, and the opportunity cost of not bringing an actual class?
>>582505856It's just going to be 4 ogryns now
>>582505853>Does the 10% melee nerf on psyker (bring about or cause) any breakpoints for the greatsword?both of these seem like entirely viable sentences to me
>>582505663no they can't
Just got to level 30 on my melee focused psyker. Love chopping up cultists. Is there any real value in keeping duplicates of a weapon?
>>582503034If you want to build a meme burn and bleed thematic build, well be yourself. But I say it's crap.Hammer isn't a finesse weapon, that 50% finesse on dodge is a no. Good hammer move set is mostly charged attack, getting Zealous Pilgrim for atk speed and vaguely applies burn up to 12 stacks aren't that good, atk speed does not make you charge your heavy attack faster.At the bottom, investing bleed on crit without Blazing Piety is useless. Zealot doesn't have that high base crit chance and the same to hammer. Basically wasting 2-3 points for nothing. Remove damage bonus on bleed and electrocute node to something else. Get one of the point to Martyr Purpose. Change the crappy combat shotgun to explosive mark bolt pistol instead. Use those points go for right tree 50% backstab damage on 8 sec cd.But if you want the bleed theme, then bleed on crit and change Martyrdom into Blazing Piety, of course use relic blade instead of hammer.You probably have free up 4-5 points left, so get more defensive node like Second Wind - toughness regen on dodge and Good Balance - damage reduction on dodge. The rest can be Providence - revive speed, Against all odd, Hubris or Perfectionist.Pic is just example.
How will the thugshit effect the meta?
>>582506572Lol
How the fuck do I unlock the Cliffhanger penance? I have no idea how to knock enemies off ledges or whatever the hell its asking for
>>582506572*affect
>>582506002no, because what he wants to say is number going down means you dont reach the breakpoint anymore, not the nerf is causing a breakpoint
>>582506572it won't, it's just single stubber but single shotthey could've made it into an actual pocket cannon firing a cannonball but they're gay, sw*dish and retarded
>>582506538>Remove damage bonus on bleed and electrocute node to something elseThe entire point of my shitbuild was to use that shit node lol
>>582506963If you want to push both burn and bleed, maybe try tac axe with Fotf and BP. Then you can have both Zealous Pilgrim and Fire & Fury. Enduring faith can be one of defensive nodes instead of one point in Holy Tool. Tac axe goes with headtaker and brutal momentum.
>>582507557oh yeah I'm going to run that build too, I was just wondering about this >shoot the boss>apply bleed/fire>go in for the bonkmemery. On a more serious note, I don't think I'll ever run Martyrdom without the heal to 25% HP subnode, running around on 1 hp is just not viable in harder difficulties
Holy fuck how do you stay alive in a bad spot when youre a psyker?Ogyrns & Arbites just tankHivers & skitarii just dodge & stabVets & zealots have golden toughnessBut psykers arent fast or tanky. You can toss damage sure, but if you get pinned in youre fucked & you ca nt outrun either
>>582508648I explode myself and wait for someone to pick me up
>>582508648kill faster
>>582508648Stay in a good spot
>>582503103>It is not a coincidence why zealot of all classes has access to the Eviscerator and boltgun and flamer.Because those are the weapons Ministorum Preachers have had since 3rd edition warhammer 40k? Also the Zealot has shotguns and autoguns, like preachers.>>582505856Golden toughness change is minimal as I understand. I really don't understand how Zealot will be significantly affected by this, maybe someone can learn me.So I think Zealot will be still as common as before, especially as the damage reduction/damage bonus will be easier to apply. Veteran seems to have been nerfed a little, so I expect that to be less common but the new Vet tree looks retarded so who knows.>>582506709Explosions, like Ogryn grenade gauntlet.Also ironically Zealot Chorus, slowly chasing an enemy as you pulse them towards the ledge.
>>582508648...also dodge and stab?
>>582508719I unitonically feel like a murderbag sometimes killing everything around much to my delight but if I get snipered/netted/dogged/perilled/etc & the ogryn comes & picks me up like luggage>>582508732Fair enough, but something else that fucks with me is when the Daemonhost aggros on me. I cant dodge or resist its damage & they pop me like a cork>>582508941Armored ogyrn, snipers, & dogs/trappers still get me doing that
>>582491067>volkite weaponsDon't worry, donut steel Belisarius Cawl can do everything, even resurrecting the emperor himself!
>>582508648>But psykers arent fast or tanky.Psykers are tanky. Health build with all the DR nodes can tank auric crusher overheads. In havoc you stay near your bodyguard or ensure they stay near you.>if you get pinned in youre fuckedPsyker has access to dueling swor dand dclaw, both of which can parry infinite armor.>you ca nt outrun eitherBuild issue. Psyker can bring a knife, and dedicated staff builds rarely if ever need their melee weapon.>Holy fuck how do you stay alive in a bad spot when youre a psyker?You can knock everything over with ground pound staff. You can fucking erase the entire screen before it can become a threat. You can path through smite without making any concessions, and pull that out like 2-3 times a mission when bad things happen. You just haven't learned to adjust to psyker yet. Not having some instant bail-out like RPG or whatever doesn't mean those situations can't be easily solved. You just need to account for them in your build. If you run none of the viable solutions, then no shit, you can't bail yourself out of bad spots. Avoid getting into those in the first place if you must run such a stupid build.
Thugshot?More like ThugSHIT!
>>582506572If they give it good cleave stats it will be useful. Heavy Stubber currently has 6.5 mass cleave for comparison.
>>582513498How would cleave meaningfully affect the thugshot? If you're comparing it to the heavy stubber, you just shoot a second time if the first bullet didn't cut it, and that usually gets the job done. In auric, the kickback already kills everything that needs to die in a single shot anyway, and havoc places vastly different demands on your ranged slot so sniping guns stop being viable (and also the breakpoints are really annoying to hit).Unless you mean cleaving through hordes to clear them, which isn't a thing that single-shot single-bullet weapons are even capable of realistically doing lol.
>>582506538hammer is getting buffed across the board, some finesse stats are straight up getting doubled.
>>582512154That is a very small ripper. It's cute!
>>582513853It's more if we get values around plasma light shot (16), killing specials consistently in mass boosted hordes becomes much easier. Obviously not going to beat GG/Rumbler meta though.
>>582509564I don't understand most of your problems. I definitely think as psyker I have a tendency to just *die of cringe* mid step or swing, but it's always from something I didn't know was targeting me after having my (low) health chipped. Snipers are definitely a problem, I think 90% of the time I've been hit by a sniper it's been because the aiming laser appeared 0.2 seconds before firing on me.But otherwise, crushers, dogs and trappers are easy kills for psyker because I've always taken at least some melee talents. DH is difficult because of how spastic it moves around but psyker has access to 3 very high damage melee weapons as well as weapons that have good stamina usage for blocking so it's doable.Maybe you just need more practice on other classes with different weapon sets. You earlier mentioned Zealot is survivable because of golden toughness... which is just fucking wrong. Zealots are survivable because they have Until Death, and Chorus (which gives the golden toughness) makes them even more survivable because of it's stagger pulses.>>582512154I wish Ripper guns were good. Some oldfags said they used to be fine before enemy HP was buffed. I don't understand why they don't feel and damage like faster-firing combat shotguns.
>>582514675>I wish Ripper guns were good. Some oldfags said they used to be fine before enemy HP was buffedIf you want to get a feel of what it used to be like, go into Heresy with +25% dmg on unarmoured/flak. I think the playtesters keep advocating to buff its ammo pool which is not the problem.
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>582514149>That is a very small ripper. It's cute!Not really, it's just a really fat rat.
Hands are tired from playing all day with no breaks, do I watch Unabomber or Nocturnal Animals before bed?
>>582515096Ammo pool is not the problem, it's supposed to be a tard gun that the Ogryn empties his entire mag with while yelling and running at the enemy, then when it stops shooting he starts stabbing everything.Except none of that works, you can't even melee with an empty mag.
>>582514206>if we get values around plasma light shot (16)I kinda doubt it because fatshark is retarded. It also wouldn't shake up the meta because, again, the kickback fills that role in auric through minimum pellet count + just being a tall fucker, and such a role does not exist for ogryn in havoc. The single stubber already fills that role as well as one can expect, and it is not good enough to be worth bringing, and also massively outclassed by the GG when it comes to literally anything that doesn't involve shooting snipers or gunner spam, neither of which should be your job as ogryn.
give me a good assail build
>>582515269Watch gay porn
>>582515697Every crit node you can take, including the auraPeril cleaveGaze so you don't blow yourself up while spamming itRending is optional, Assail is worthless against armor, I don't think it'll help it all that much. Still a good pick for your staff/melee ofc.Empowered Psionics with elite kill refundTake all the other good shit you'd normally take and bring a melee that can deal with armor, or lightning staff to zap armor to death. Since this is a Gaze build, you can safely bring FGS + leftclick staff and it'll play very similar to the usual cookie cutter psyker.
>>582515839Hunnypaint it is
>>582514675>Some oldfags said they used to be fine before enemy HP was buffed.Even before the enemy HP buffs in autumn 2025 ripper guns were kinda shitty. But the devs then buffing HP on enemies just exacerbated the problem and made it worse.>I don't understand why they don't feel and damage like faster-firing combat shotguns.That is mainly because ripper guns have both shitty Armor Damage Modifiers especially against the enemies that matter, AND shitty finesse modifiers, and on top they do kind of have a stark damage fall off as well. So they don't really excell at anything and are kinda mediocre at everything + having short range, which makes them feel bad.I personally prefer to use the mk2 because it hits hardest and feels nice to use, but it has pretty bad minimum pellet count thing. Also ripper guns have inverted stability for some reason, so yay.I'm not great explaining and I'm not 100% sure if this is correct but how I understand minimum pellet count in Darktide is the following:Say a shotgun does 150 damage per shot and shoots 15 pellets and the gun has minimum pellet count of 7. Minimum pellet count then means if ANY pellet hits an enemy, even if it is just 1 pellet, the game treats that hit like the enemy has been hit with "minimum amount of pellets", so in this case 7.And since this hypothetical gun does 150 damage, but it has 15 pellets per shot, it means each pellet does about 10 damage. But since the minimum pellet count is 7, the calculation goes 7x10=70, so even 1 pellet does about 70 damage at minimum.This is the reason why when the MPC is closer to the actual pellet count, better the gun feels, because you do more damage reliably.This mechanic is also why shotguns in Darktide can actually hit pretty far and don't really suffer that much from the typical "video game shotgun" syndrome. Ie. your shots turn into confetti beyond 3 meters.Unless it is a ripper gun.
Games Workshop should sell a bathrobe with the admech pattern on it
>>582516220>AND shitty finesse modifiers,Incorrect actually. Ripper VI is the crittingest ogryn gun. If you build fully around it, you should actually stack crit and it has a tangible effect according to the data.I'm not saying that the ripper is any good, mind you.
>>582516220I think the Minimum Pellet Count thing is the explanation, because it does seems like if a combat shotgun clips a scabber 20 meters away he gets bowled over. Meanwhile with the ripper you have to be point blank to actually hit anything and then it doesn't do any goddamn damage like it's attack breakdown says.>>582516345I recognise that spreadsheet!Maybe anon meant Weakspot damage when he referred to Finesse.
>>582516739>I recognise that spreadsheet!I only clankered that up this Tuesday I think but I'm happy that you found value in it>Maybe anon meant Weakspot damage Still incorrect with the ripper VI, it actually has very good overall finesse, picrel. Crit weakspot is more than double damage on every target.
>>582516345I know that the mk6 has good finesse modifiers, but honestly speaking the mk6 is kind of a meme due to its firing modes. The 2 shot hipfire is a nice difference, but the braced that makes it into a duckbill shotgun but is STILL only semi auto feels clunky and is only useful for cleaving heads off horde trash. But using your gun for horde clear is objectively the most shitty and least efficient way of using your gun.It's the reason why people still prefer the mk5 and mk2. They have the 3 round burst for quick shots if they need to neutralize something quickly, but also have the braced full auto for magdumping if you need lot of fire power at once. Also weirdly enough I think the mk5 is still regardless the best "sniper" out of the ripper guns due to its pellet spread and minimum pellet count, and not mk6.Also to me it is really weird that only 1 variant of the ripper guns has good finesse modifiers and the rest are bad.It's pure speculation, but it just makes me think that the devs only gave the mk6 good finesse modifiers, only because they knew if the mk2 and mk5 had them nobody would use the mk6.Instead they should've given all of the ripper guns good finesse modifiers, but turn the mk6 into slug shotgun that'd make it actually different. And also very cool, and the cool factor alone would make people want to use it.
Why is fatshit to afraid to touch the ripper guns???
>>582521910Apparently their stat tracking was repeatedly listing it as doing insane damage. But this was back when PBB interaction was busted with it.
>>582521910Because they misunderstand the numbers they receive. They don't know the underlying causes to them, and they don't bother looking into it - whether that's incompetence or laziness, that's not for me to judge.But most importantly - they don't play their own game so they don't understand their own systems in action.>afraid to touchThey have no idea that there's an issue.
>>582523239>>582522902Imagine if they actually played the game, it would be in such a better state
>>582521910the swedoid doesn't "play" like a peasant, it reads excel files with numbers
>>582522902Do you think the damage stat tracking indicates what it's being used on? Because I have a feeling most of its targets are poxwalkers, it plinks against armor. The thing's an auto shotgun basically, I get the impression the only way it'll ever be balanced and actually feel good to use is if the brace animation works faster, has no movement penality and punches through armor types at the cost of doing next to nothing beyond short range. Encourage people to get in close with it.
they don't touch ripper guns because they are S tier in auric, which is what most people playand fatshark doesn't understand havoc, or why ripper guns are not very good there. So nothing will ever happen
>>582525138They can't be S tier when the rumbler and gauntlet outperform it. It's B tier on auric at most, pretty good, but has obvious shortcomings.
>>582525363i will go no lower than A. final offermost people don't know how to use them anyway
The ripper is F for Fart tier
>>582525534Grudgingly, but it will have to share a bunk with the twin linked stubber.
>>582524910this is 2nd hand info from playtesters comments, but it was everything. But this was back when pbb applied fire DoTs to multiple hitzones at once.Easy way to fix them is just to increase base damage by about 200 to 300 at the cost of ammo pool and reload speed.
>>582524713>>582523810>>582525138>>582526047>playing >playtesters>playing the gameUnenlightened vermin.I read the numbers on the weapons, the NPC HP values, and simply visualize the combat.No clicking of the buttons ever happens.
>>582527354but chudah what about the feedba...
>>582527445Shan't listen to it.
>>582515269I watched the beginning of the former, seems alright so far. Saw the latter but don’t know what it’s about. >>582505856I do that.
>>582505450>if you understood him, it doesn't matterI don’t necessarily disagree but it feels like this kind of thinking could quickly become disastrous
>>582528028>thinkingI'm fairly certain that retards who can't tell the difference between 'affect' and 'effect' aren't sapient enough to think.
>>582528028It feels like being lazy and sloppy, but literally that's how we got to modern day English. Personally I'm also not a fan, I like order but it is what it is. You don't call "meat" "flesh" or "flæsc/flaish" anymore, for example - and in German you still do.
>>582503917Firestorm!
>>582528028anyone who’s ever heard the average gen A person speak knows how bad that line of thought is
>>582529149I'd reference Idiocracy but I feel like that would make me instantly gain 100 pounds, grow a neckbeard and automatically create a reddit account for me.To someone from like, 17th century we're the degen idiots so, you know, stay humble
>>582528119you just force them to play yugioh, a lot of people couldnt parse this card for some reason despite the fact its extremely simple to understand
>>582529535What's the problem?Reading the card explains the card. Just read it.coop games games done in a co-operative manner
>>582525138>they don't touch ripper guns because they are S tier in auricThey aren't S tier even in aurics. Ripper guns are firmly in B tier.Simple reason being they have no real niche outside of horde clear and some special sniping they can do from close to mid-range.
>>582530478Take massacre and good shootin, put flechette on your ripper, and you can shit out both bleed and burn stacks. That bumps it to A tier on auric. Grenade launchers still have the edge since they can instead apply burn and brittleness to everything, but the ripper isn't a bad gun. I definitely prefer it to the twin stubber.
>>582524910>Do you think the damage stat tracking indicates what it's being used on?No. At best they only see the damage numbers and the enemies killed, but the only conclusion they'll take and can see is "Ripper gun does big damage numbers already, no need for buffs", but they don't take into account that the enemies killed are poxwalkers and other horde trash, the least threathening enemies in the game.Like people have said, most of the devs don't play Darktide on at all relevant level. There are some few who have climbed to H40 but these are the exceptions reinforcing the rule.Ie. majority of the Fartshart devs are stuck in Malice or Heresy, like most of the playerbase and they look at balance through the lens of Malice/Heresy player.And sadly speaking, most Malice and Heresy players are genuinely shitters. Like they are actually bad at the game, but not just that, they are also dumb. I am being harsh and a dick but it is the truth.And since they are dumb they don't understand what things make a good weapon in the first place or what their strengths and weaknesses are. Or how the weapons could be buffed so they don't feel so bad, etc.
>>582531179What makes it worse is that the devs are playing malice and heresy with maxxed out weapons, which are way overtuned for those difficulties so they never sit down and consider breakpoints for them. Heresy should be tested with level 300 weapons at most.
>>582530946>That bumps it to A tier on auricNo, it doesn't - you can still only hordeclear with it, and you run out of ammo in a blink.
>>582530946>PBB buildYeah, that ability makes all of the ranged weapons strong as fuck on ogryn because the entire ability is fucking busted.It doesn't change that the ripper gun is inherently a shitty weapon.It's like Rampage scum, it's so fucking overpowered that it makes shit like the heavy sword feel good. A weapon that is at best B or even C tier on other classes.And again, that doesn't mean that the heavy sword is that good of a weapon, it just means that Rampage ability is retardedly overtuned to the point where it makes even the worst pieces of shit into S tier.
>>582531583>you can still only hordeclear with it, and you run out of ammo in a blink.this is the type of shit people say that makes me not take them seriously. And that's a good thing. Because now I don't have to waste my time arguing. Believe whatever you want to believe.
>>582533765No, I'm sorry, you're right - it is an excellent anti-gunner, anti-elite, anti-boss weapon with a great accuracy, great breakpoints, and amazing bullet efficiency and ergonomics. I run in in a strict crit setup, with the ogryn's greatest melee weapon - the cleaver, of course.I was just trolling for attention.Here you go. Have a nice day.
>>582416147anyway the jews are bad
>>582534296raped his vagina
Aaaannd the jeet woke up. See you later /coopg/, bye.
What type of build do you run to get this sorta feeling
>>582536073knife stealth zealot obv
>>582534296Bodies that freak
>>582509308>I really don't understand how Zealot will be significantly affected by this, maybe someone can learn me.Two less Chorus pulses to refresh piss toughness and disable enemies.Piss toughness now allows spillover damage, so that if you take a massive hit that removes ALL of your toughness, you take health damage. This makes crushers that much more dangerous, though snipers and poxbursters have been nerfed a bit to compensate.
Ahem... LIGHT ATTACKS
>>582534296The cleaver is pretty good.
>>582537646Chorus radius was also reduced, but iirc the node buff now applies early
>>582538861Only the ranged suppression, which is a nothingburger.Overall, as far as nerfs are concerned, the -2 pulses is the biggest one, and the toughness spillover change is kinda sorta also a nerf but only when playing with retards that relied on it to survive. I don't think the ranged suppression matters at all.
>>582539893>I don't think the ranged suppression matters at all.You are about to have a bad wake up call.
>>582540237suppression only matters on people that shoot, but the people that shoot ignore suppression or dont care
>>582541565not that kind of suppression, noob-kun
>>582540237No because I'm not some retard who just stands there holding the thing whenever there's gunners. You can slide during chorus, and chorus suppressing gunners isn't relevant in the first place for this exact reason.Also you can just shoot to suppress them.
>>582534749Many are starting to say this
>>582544472>Artists and 40k fans trying to sell the concept of "female cop" as coolI just can't participate, i've touched too much grass and know what they're like
>>582549029What if you get off to women in position of power though?
>>582549251Touched too much grass for that one as well but I'm not looking down on people who can fantasize better than me
>>582549029It's fiction for a reason
>>582549029>shoots everything on sightIdk man, might be useful in the mean Hive Tertium streets
>>582549029I remember when someone said this last year around Arbites release as well and showed that funny video of one being a screwup. Good times.
>>582549029>my fictional setting is too fictionalPick a struggle retard.
>>582549029sounds like a (You) problem
>>582549029>i've touched too much grassWhy the hell didn't they warn us touching grass was toxic at high doses??
>>582552030They didn't want you to know this lurked in the grass.
>>582552545Hold still, I'll get it
i genuinely hate every single melee weapon in this game
>>582552545aiiieeee im becoming allergic to meat save meeee!!!!!
>>582553171Psyker swords, including duelling sword, are based.Combat blade is based.Scum shivs are based.Cleaver is based. It's based because it's fun.Eviscerator is based.Relic Blade? You better believe that's based.I will say there's a problem where light attack ADM is often a fair bit lower than for heavy attack, which means it's inherently more efficient to have your armour penetrating, Strike Downs as heavy attacks and not lights. I wish they'd have some weapons that had equal ADM for light and heavy so it was more viable to light-spam Maulers.
>>582553171Not every but Dueling Sword is such a downgrade from ratclick's Rapier
Funnest build per class?
>>582554738>Scum shivs are based.sounds like they need another nerf, we're on it!
>49/50 Pox Gas>Brap Gas is out of rotationI hate this game
>>582551550She's so pretty
I'm honestly getting tired of this community People keep bitching that the devs have a life and go on vacation.People ask for new content. Not two days after new content arrives, this sub gets flooded with "So when's the next content coming?" posts.People complain when there's a patch. People complain when it's been two weeks without a patch.Devs modify the patch pre-release to accomodate major complaints and instead of recognizing it as a great move and applaud the devs, i see this sub flooded by "now that they caved in for the Vet..." posts.Ya'll are a bunch of ungrateful and insatiable children it's insane.Fatshark, know that some of us are actually grateful for the work you guys do. Keep up the good work, take whatever vacations you want and thank you for this amazing game.
I say that completely unironically
>>582557439
>>582557940god I love this gif so fucking muchthank you for posting it kek
>>582554738>no ogryn weapons mentionedGrim. Goes to show that ogryn's melee is just cucked, both in power and in design even. (on 90% of the weapons you're best off using only 1 Heavy attack and then macroing into it)
>>582557439>updates are few and far between>devs only listen to their retarded play testers>problems that were at launch still exists>something as simple as reducing the pox bursters explosion radius takes years to implement >removes gold toughness instead looking at the real problem of the other abilities being shit>AI director is still schizo>Ya'll are a bunch of ungrateful and insatiable children it's insane.They payed for a live service product, what did you expect?
>>582558439Pickaxe is cool...
>>582557439Pretty good bait, made me slightly mad
>>582559731That's one of the rare 10%. Even then it is still cucked because pickaxes for some retarded reason have terrible finesse modifiers.It's honestly impressive, more you look into ogryn and learn about the class mechanics wise and how it works under the hood, more you're convinced that ogryn was created out of malice, not out of passion.
>>582558950>>updates are few and far between>>something as simple as reducing the pox bursters explosion radius takes years to implement To me personally these are the biggest issues this game faces.The game only gets 4 updates per year and then bunch of hotfixes. But most of these hotfixes do literally nothing to address game balance and instead they only exist to be glorified way to fix some cosmetics and then sneak new ones in for the next shop rotation. What is worse though is that most blessings, weapons, class talents in this game function just fine mechanically but the issue why they are pure DOGSHIT is because their numbers are bad.So buffing/nerfing them is quite literally as easy as just going into the code and changing "X weapon base damage = 200" and buffing it into "X weapon base damage = 400". Or it's "lasts 3 seconds" -> "lasts 6 seconds"But for some reason they practically never fucking do this????And like you said, basic, simple fucking fixes some take fucking years to implement. Like gold toughness, people identified the problem instantly years ago as to why that shit was overpowered, it was the immunity to 1 hit KO attacks. And people understood this had to be nerfed to restore balance, but this fucking shit took 3 GOD DAMN YEARS to fix and it is only getting fixed in the upcoming update.Another is arbites dog tag and skitarii skull tag override each other and vet's Focus Target and vet's keystone tag overrides them.This fucking bug was reported in OCTOBER 2025 and it STILL has not been fixed year later. And it just sits as "Acknowledged" on the damn forums.
>>582557439this is literally a reddit post
>>582558439he said cleaver. are you fucking retarded? cleaver is an ogryn weapon you dumb fucking faggot
>someone disagrees with me>RATJEEEET REEEEEEE
>>582568538Take your meds
>>582568598>TAKE YOUR MEDS POOPDICKSCHIZO!
>>582528028It is. That kind of thinking is how you get ebonics reducing the English language to single syllable grunts that nobody ends up understanding.
>>582564715>but the issue why they are pure DOGSHIT is because their numbers are bad.Do people honestly use the Pox Hound shit on the Curio?I'm not against Gold Toughness, it exists to counteract the fair weather AI director that spawns in multiple gunners and enemies that overlap each other like Tox Bombers.
>>582566618Ogryn has no cleavers, lies
>>582557439>People keep bitching that the devs have a life and go on vacation.They're on vacation for (seemingly) a month at a time, multiple times a year. That shit wouldn't fly from an Asian or American studio. It's literally a Euro thing.>People ask for new content. Not two days after new content arrives, this sub gets flooded with "So when's the next content coming?" posts.>SubKys>People complain when there's a patch. People complain when it's been two weeks without a patch.Partially because of other live-service games that ACTUALLY commit to the live-service bit. You don't have to like Fortnite or CoD but they know what their business model is. There is *something* new every couple of weeks.>Devs modify the patch pre-release to accomodate major complaints and instead of recognizing it as a great move and applaud the devs, i see this sub flooded by "now that they caved in for the Vet..." posts.Again: >Sub >accomodateIt sets a precedent and shows that players CAN lean on the devs to change patches. Whether or not you're in favor of it is likely down to whether or not you think your favorite class deserves buffs. So yes, that kind of discussion is warranted.
>>582572908The vacation thing wouldn't even be that much of a problem if Fatshark wasn't so dead set on not having any offices anywhere outside Stockholm. Other studios often have remote offices in other countries, or even other continents precisely so all the competent devs aren't all on vacation at the same time, but somehow, if you want to work for Fatshark even as a community manager or in some other purely online role, you need to live in Sweden. Preferring to hire only your own countrymen is sort of based, but the game suffers as a result.
>>582574539I think you're blaming the wrong thing here. You don't hate fagshart enough.Now, I don't know Sw*dish law, but I assume that certain holidays are mandated. Let's accept that at face value. Not really a huge problem, a lot of businesses manage.Let's also accept at face value that all fagshart employees must all go on vacation together for several weeks at a time, effectively shutting down operations. Not a massive problem either, because you know these things ahead of time. I'm not talking short-term, because this is a predictable systemic thing. It happens every year, at the same time, for the same time. It's possible, easy even, to plan around.Fagshart doesn't get memed on because they take mandatory vacations.Fagshart doesn't get memed on because they send the entire office on vacation for upwards of three weeks at a time.They get memed on because any reasonable management will account for the vacation bullshit, and these INCOMPETENT FUCKING SWEGROIDS ARE TOO LOW IQ TO THINK MORE THAN TEN MINUTES INTO THE FUTURE.Think about it.>you've been cooking this new DLC for like a year now>you know the big vacay is coming>you know your team is understaffed at best and grossly incompetent at worst>you know QA is basically nonexistent>you know the playtesters are retarded sycophants>you know for a fact that all of the above compounds to requiring hotfixes at best, or a major fix/rebalance patch at worst>you know that your hotfix/patch pipeline is slow, either out of incompetence, or consolegroidery requiring some retarded verificationLogically, you wouldn't release a major DLC within 1-2 weeks of your vacation starting. You already know it's releasing underbaked, and you also know you can't fix it within that short of a time frame. It would be completely retarded to release a barely functioning DLC and then go on vacation for a month.They've done that exact thing with all DLC classes thus far.
>>582578636>They've done that exact thing with all DLC classes thus far.I ran out of characters. Yes I'm continuing my rant because I'm fucking angry with these Sw*dish sub-humans.Arbitrator was the first, and biggest offender. Came out broken, had a bunch of skills that didn't work right, got several hotfixes by a janny that made them worse, and ended up with a keystone literally not functioning correctly. Then they went on vacation.Scum also had a bunch of talents not working correctly, and also they self-evidently didn't playtest leveling the skill tree because everyone who bought it was so fucking miserable. It was so bad, it eventually had to get reworked twice.Skitty released in the most functional state thus far, but also came with major issues, like the blitzes all being dogshit (they still kinda are), and the servo skull not being able to shoot through psyker shields (and actually damaging them).All of these bugs are varying degrees of acceptable, and I'm not here to argue about whether they are. What isn't acceptable is releasing shit in a broken state and then fucking off for a month, and have the audacity to call your game "live service".
>>582579295>Yes I'm continuing my rant because I'm fucking angry with these Sw*dish sub-humanstfw i also get this way more often than not when thinking of fatshark (and arrowhead, and starbreeze, and GSG, and... really any other scandinavian dev outside of solo indies) because the worst part of all of their shit is that they're simultaneously so sincerely SMUG about itit's like they're genetically predisposed towards being as frustrating as humanly possible
>>582579295>and also they self-evidently didn't playtest leveling the skill tree because everyone who bought it was so fucking miserable.They do, the problem is that the testers are only playing on Damnation and below
>>582579295>and also they self-evidently didn't playtest leveling the skill tree because everyone who bought it was so fucking miserableMost people who were miserable with scum on release were shitters who don't know how to mitigate damage. Uzi spamming with desperado was actually a fun leveling experience.
>>582580330No, you must have forgotten how retarded scum's skill tree was. There were no pickable defensive nodes until you were like level 20, which made even the lower difficulties frustratingly difficult to survive. If your fundamentals weren't on point, you would just eat shit.I don't remember whether someone, or if, who, admitted that they only playtested with maxed skill trees. Either way, it's evident enough that they didn't level a single scum from 1 to 30 in how atrocious the skill tree was, so I don't even care about any other proof.
>>582580620>Most people who were miserable with scum on release were shittersTrue to an extent, but irrelevant to the argument. If actions speak louder than words, then fagshart reworking the skill tree twice to make defensive nodes available early on, is admitting to making a major mistake in this regard. It doesn't matter what you or I think about the skill level of the average player, customers were obviously pissed with not being able to play the class because its skill floor was inaccessible to the average retard.
>>582580628I just remember the class being extremely squishy and weak on release, so much so that even Damnation was difficult
>mfw watching darktide tourists complain about fatshark being retarded idiots while i was there when vt2 came out and i was also there when wom was hyped as fuck by the streamersTime is a flat circle.
>>582581353I think people mad at the fact that Fatshark didn't apply anything they learned from Vermintide
>>582581656Damn what is this, October 14th 2022?It's okay, I love slowpokes.Fatshark will never EVER be competent.
>>582581849They were incompetent back in vermintide 1
>>582581928No one here played Vermintide 1 back in 2015.
>>582582175I did.
>>582582989Prove it.
>>582584987How
I am an OG.
>>582585502>2016 tourist.
2 more sleepsTrust the plan
Looks like all y'all getting all y'all's sleep early
>>582585224>>582584987Here you go. My first achievement in the game.
>>582590989Taking a bit hard for you to take this seriously?
>>582591681All y'all need to learn some proper grammer
>>582591373>decembernewfag
>>582592458>more players have killed a patrol than have equipped a trinket
>>582591373>>582592458>"I've been raped by swedes longer than you">"nuh uh, I've been raped way longer!!!"
>>582593287Jokes on you, I AM swede
Do you think GW would allow Astartes even as NPCs in Darktide?
>>582593840Why aren't you sleeping?
>>582593904>a couple of space marines standing around at mission start while the retard squad goes inNo way
>>582594412I'm unemployed and have nothing better to do
>>582595595Life would not be much different if you were employed to be honest.
>>582595391What if we were running some sort of support parallel to their mission, kind of like escorting Dragor's tank in NML?
How long til update in hours?
>>582595890Does anyone ever really stop to look at the tank? Window dressing is mostly wasted.
>>582593904Cool art. It would be kind of silly to just have them standing around doing nothing, maybe if we get another enemy faction (Genestealers) or at least expanded on it so that the work load increases and explains why we’re even still needed
>>582596012Around 36-40
>>582596224We don't get marines anyway, there are none on Atoma and the system is cut off by a warp storm, so it's all local assets.
So Swagger is a genestealer or something right?
>>582503917Prayer based spells exist I believe
>>582595595Typical swede
All I remember from launch hivescum was running shivs and hurting my hands from all the buttons i had to press on controller. Only thing worse was playing launch warlock for D4.
>>582596460He's weird, but I don't think he's a genestealer.
Man this game gets kinda hard when all of your team just ignores groups of reapers
>>582597317Let the reapers wipe them at least once, after that they should take them seriously as a threat.
>>582597447It happened 4 times :(
>>582597518Oh...
>>582596721>on controllerThis ain't the game for you, Pablo
>>582597518Why didn't you save them!?
Still not sure how a daemonhost is stronger than a real manifested beast of nurgle.
>>582598794daemonhosts exist to nerf daemons
>>582599436Yeah, the ones that are bound to the vessel. The beast is unbound though, isn't it?
Auric storm survivors be like: dies in heresy
>>582598794>>582601103Daemons and all creatures of the Warp don’t operate uniformly. There’s a lot of factors at play that can affect the strength of both. It’s entirely plausible for either to be stronger than the other depending on the conditions at play like the proficiency of the sorcerer making the daemonhost, the type of daemon, how many seals they have, how much Warp activity is already in the environment to supplement the BoN, etc. In this case BoNs don’t have the necessary juice to be any stronger. Admonition’s sorcerers clearly don’t have much clue what they’re doing though even if their daemonhosts are technically stronger they’re at least more useful since the daemonhosts can’t even be commanded and they’re forced to just have them sitting around.
I still don't get why Darktide doesn't have its own general, there's more than enough traffic
>>582582175>>582585502>>582591373absolute babs>>582592458a real nigga
>>582601838Darktide is the only thing keeping /coopg/ alive.
>>582601838Kill yourself
>>582423481That's my scoreboard you replied to. In that game, two of the players were low level, and did very little damage. And the other good player was playing book zealot. So it funnelled most of the damage-dealing responsibility to me. I was playing a Noospheric Command-based build, which is overpowered, especially in Auric High Intensity Shock-Troop Gauntlet, where Higher Purpose generates much more Capacitance compared to a Havoc 40 game. Higher Purpose is a node where the more you kill, the more you can kill. It's exponential. Without a cap, unlike other similar nodes.Yes, that zealot had bolter and throwing knives in addition to their melee, and made good use of them.On skitarii, I also used ranged and melee weapons about equally.
>>582602141Nothing wrong with a general dying if there's nothing keeping it going
Is skitty getting any of the new weapons
>>582596129It could be done better obviously
>>582505856Veteran builds that don't use shout are already popular outside of China, so the impact on the meta will be mild.
>>582604513Nope.
>>582604892Damn, I wanted something different for my third loadout but don't like any of the shit its got
How close do you have to be to benefit from close damage
>>582605224Within 15m
>>582605676Thanks!
>>582605009Yeah I'm very annoyed they said "All human classes except Arbites" for the new shotgun, and then were like "oh lol also not Skitarii"Luv me some Skit though, what weapons are you using on your loadouts now?
>>582606857Lightning gun and the new revolver, I tried to use galvanic for the third but I really just don't enjoy it
>>582595668NTA but I'm pretty sure I'm an undiagnosed schizophrenic. I I have auditory hallucinations and delusional thinking and I no longer consider myself human. I think the cleaver is a good melee weapon, if you pair it with the ripper gun.
>>582607341both plasma marks fuck pretty hard on skit too, might be worth trying those out
>>582608986Makes sense that a retarded schizo leech would have this opinion
What's the best setup for skitty claw bros?
>>582608986Hey I have the same setup, the voices are goated
>>582609302Redline capacitors, axial slash, and the thing that gives 25% of the cost back when you use it
>>582609870Only thing I didn't have was axial, thanks me breddah
>>582610593remember tap to slash, hold to face-rip
>>582596224>Cool art.I have no idea why but Corvus gets more homo art than Fulgrim
>>582609283Retarded? I'm not retarded, I'm a 1000 IQ genius. I just have issues.
Wanted to play KF2 just to have some fun killing zomb- ZEDs but 100gbs is a bit too much
>>582601757Makes me wonder if any cultists get RIP from triggering the hosts on accident
>>582611071> I'm a 1000 IQ geniusDid the voices in your head tell you that? Shut your schizo ass mouth up
>>582612097You get to shut the fuck up - I don't have to listen to your drivel.
>>582610785The artist just designs him or any other Primarchs kinda hot muscular men in Chinese women preference style. I don't see any homo vibe with it. Similar to Savage Overture in LADS. The JP artist equivalent maybe P-Poco
>>582579995>it's like they're genetically predisposed towards being as frustrating as humanly possibleyou're finally waking up to the truth
>>582613009>I don't see any homo vibe with it.it's the lips
>>582609870Feels like I'm the only one that plays without axial, what do you even use it for normally? If it's stacks of elites like gunners/shotgunners, I one tap them from distance with the galvanic rifle and if I'm on the melee build I facedive with the transonic blades in duelist stance after I voltaic everything around. Kill speed is fast enough on both that I usually get them before everyone else that's not an Arc spamming lobotomite or a scum god that was already a mile ahead of me.Clearing standard horde trash? Both transonic blades in slayer and power sword do great by just spamming lights, maybe mix in heavy specials on the power sword. Even with cooldown reduction talent + all the cap nodes it still feels like a waste to use it on horde.Deleting stacks of carapace is the one thing I could see it excel at but how many charges do you need for that, especially if it's multiple crushers? Last time I checked I couldn't delete anything carapaced in one swipe so you clearly need multiple. I'm sure it's strong if so many of you use it but it doesn't feel like I'm weak in any way by not having it, in fact I find the horde clear to be a lot better than the vets by essentially doing nothing but spam light attacks, so I just end up using my claw to murder carapace one by one with the stab and only have the CD node accompanying it, never running out of charges.Auric btw, don't care about havoc. Also makes me glad I'm not affected by the upcoming axial nerf.
>>582614626>Auric btw, don't care about havocWhy DO people only play Auric and not Havoc? (except for penances)
>>582613028>finallyi've known since the Lead & Gold daysfatshark has never learned and they never will
>>582615142Ranked modes have a chore vibe to them that puts me off personally
>>582615142Not that anon, but Auric is more or less where the "fun" difficulty peaks in concert with a sizable playerbase. Havoc just becomes tedious past a certain point. >>582615241 sums it up succinctly; Havoc feels less like playing for the sake of challenge and more like pointless busywork.
>>582614626>Auric btw, don't care about havoc.based>>582615142Havoc over 30 is a sweat fest and not fun. Auric Maelstrom still feels fun.
>>582614626Tis fun to rip a whole blob in half with one button push, simple as. There's also no point in mentioning Voltaic because it's mutually exclusive with the claw and we're talking about the claw here. Axial is a very powerful panic button because even if it doesn't rip crushers in half, it knocks them all down and you CAN spam it to eventually rip them in half if you're in a real pinch. There's also ammo economy and action economy to consider; yes you can snipe all those shotgunners, yes you can whack down those elites in a few swings... OR you could do it in one swing and move on to doing something else. That said, I pretty much don't use the claw because I find Voltaic significantly better, but running the claw without Axial sounds like aids, what even is the point?>>582615142partyfinding is gay and so is a weekly failure limit. Make it a mode I can queue for and I'll play it.
>>582615474Auric specialist gauntlets are obnoxious enough. I wouldn't want to then triple the amount of trash swarming me with doubled health.
>>582615713>partyfinding is gay and so is a weekly failure limit. Make it a mode I can queue for and I'll play it.Doesn't help that fatshart split the player pool between 4 different mutually exclusive game modes. Tbh probably the worst decision they've made since deciding to make the game.
>>582615241>>582615413>>582615474Makes sense. Havoc is so much crazier than auric, so i prefer it. The more hordes, bosses and panic, the better for me. >>582615713>partyfinding is gayIt's not that bad. Having in addition to matchmaking would be best.
>>582615171Cute…
>>582616235>It's not that bad.Maybe, but I'm not doing it. If I wanted to apply to parties and have my passports checked by sweaty nerds I'd go back to playing FFXIV, I play this game to push the quick play button and receive dopaminergic gameplay.
>>582616235>The more hordes, bosses and panic, the better for me.We need custom servers
>>582615713>but running the claw without Axial sounds like aids, what even is the point?I find it incredibly strong even just using it to stab, I told you I almost never run out of charges from all the cap regeneration which turns it into 5 free kills on anything I can't easily dispatch with the rifle (so Crushers, Maulers and sometimes Scab Ragers if they get too close while distracted). I only made the build a few weeks ago because I got bored of the transonic voltaic carnage and build it with the sole purpose of making the Galvanic rifle work because I really want to use it for autistic lore reasons and although I could have used it as my secondary on the melee build, I love the phosphor pistol too much for its effectiveness and swap speed. Tried using the rifle with the aimbot but it drains my ammo too fast, I'm too trigger happy.Besides I love unconventional builds so long as they work, only way I played Psyker so far was melee with assail, got 0 soulburn talents and once again I am not only unaffected by the nerfs but even happy I get a few extra nodes that will just buff my assail and allow me to run quickshards without sacrificing something from the old build.If it works in Auric and it's not meta, I'm going to be a happy nerd. I tried making a knife stealth Vet work but I can't go beyond damnation with him, I have excellent elite clear with bolt pistol + krak spam but I can't deal with hordes and normally this wouldn't be a problem in comp (you could just fuck off and leave it to your buddies) but it's impossible with random shitters. Still very fun and effective if I avoid Aurics and might be even stronger now with the new tree.>>582615142What ever other anon said so far.
>shoot training crusher with laspistol crit burn>caps at 33>same thing but skitty>ticks of 120 instead of 33I can't work what what's causing it, it's driving me crazy
>>582617306First one was vet**
>>582617306Shit that happens in the Psykanium sometimes doesn't apply to missions. It's snowing in Sweden.
>>582617297Ehhhh I mean, if it works it works, but I couldn't be dedicating my entire ability to such a niche use-case as killing single target enemies. MPS and Galvanic are my most used weapons though, do you want a build or are you satisfied with your own Galvanic solution at this point?
>>582617306Rending aura. And skit has more damage than vet, plain and simple.
Is /coopg/ going to be playing Ace Combat?
>>582617724For fucks sake
>>582617306Unallocate your talent points and then compare
>>582579295>Yes I'm continuing my rant because I'm fucking angry with these Sw*dish sub-humansbased stentorian orator of righteous fury
>>582603563Thank you for explaining.When you say two players were low level, do you mean below level 30 or do you mean with that True Level mod?
>>582617880Does it do well against carapace? That was the main weakness of the build I made cause I would end up wasting a lot of ammo on them even with all the ammo nodes taken, and I couldn't go melee on them because I had 0 melee nodes, it's why I love my current setup because the claw acts as my carapace killing melee and I don't need melee nodes for it. I do want to mention ammo is not an issue if you don't have to carry deadweights or have a survivalist vet on the team, but that's more often not the case.You can post the build though, maybe MPS with a few melee talents could cover the hole but I still don't see how it's better than just insta gibbing them with claw.
>>582617941Okay I think it was this
>>582619114>noosy counts as an ability for resetting flensing protocols
>>582618539>Does it do well against carapace?Soooorta? If Voltaic Emitter is up, the brittleness softens them up to chop down pretty quick. Otherwise it's a slog, but I can usually just leave and find something else useful to do while the team deals with them. It's not going to beat removing their face with the claw, of course, nothing is going to be "better" than a 1-shot, but I vastly prefer Voltaic and the pathing involved (Overcharge Transfer Lattice is my forever-crutch, I will not apologize) compared to claw, so that is the real advantage. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a2da0000-6377-4d03-a87d-b1a12cc2ad0f/galvanic-cogsuckerFlamer skull, Ablative Wards, and Gunsmith are good candidates to unallocate if you want wiggle room points. Curios are whatever makes you comfy, these are just what I'm using. Would probably put revive speed on em if you're dropping the flame skull though.
>>582620105Accidental reply
>>582500414>MiraculistSo Psyker but with more holy stuff. I could see Fatshark doing it but I think Sister of Battle is more likely.
>>582503103>EvisceratorLiterally only repential and canonness uses Everiscerator.>boltgun Every human class has this>flamerZealot SHOULD have this>>582503358Why are you fine with MIraculist blatantly stepping on Psyker's toes but get pissy about Sister who is less likely to step on Zealots toes.
>>582620869>boltgun >Every human class has thisWrong
>>582620928>99% of human classes have thisShut up you know what I meant
>>582620982Anon it's 3/5, that's one black person's worth of classes that have it
anyoen playing Valheim? Funny thing with swedes there>new biome has snow buildup> the snow buildup resets terrain deformations, meaning your bases get raped by the terrain resetting to its natural state >days later it gets hotfixed>their solution? remove snow buildup on terrain completely>remove snow buildup from the winter wonterland deep north biome>but only terrain>so now your base gets a thick coat of snow while all the snow around your base remains totally raped by random things walking through and the snow never regeneratingSwedes...
>>582622026Yeah I just finished up playing through it with a group of friends for the 1.0 release actually. Holy moly there was some seething when we first encountered that bug. Other than that it was a pretty good time though.
>>582622026I should play that. Only did about 7 hours back on launch.
>>582622026the problem i had with valheim, the constant raids when im trying to make a house. did they ever fix that, because its not like conan exiles, where you can have guards to handle that while you muck around
>>582622471When you create your world you can set those to happen at a lower frequency. Otherwise the "fix" is to just place a bunch of workbenches around your property because they block spawns. Claim a wide enough swathe that way and the raids won't even bother you unless you go out past your border wall to fight them on purpose.
>>582620237>but I can usually just leave and find something else useful to do while the team deals with themCan't do that chief, I operate on the assumption that I'll have to deal with 6-7 crusher packs that wiped my entire mouthbreathing team. It doesn't happen that often but when it does I want to be ready for it. Could be an EU server thing, I'm not a burger, maybe your average playerbase is better but like >>582427152 said dealing with the slavgroids that can't even shut off their mic doesn't let me have that much freedom in my builds unless I go play Heresy Malestrom (which I end up doing after enough rage quits) and became my go-to relaxation place.Taking a look at your build though it's clear you have more faith in the average pleb than I ever will, for one I would never run Resurgence over Ammo Depo because I have enough thoughness regen / upkeep on my own, and considering I play blitzless I'd get rid of all the skulls but I can see why you want to keep Noospheric Command, it adds renewable DPS that doesn't depend on niggers stealing all the ammo. Never used Power Overload though, I'll have to give it a try at some point.Never ever even considered using Ablative Wards, does it have a real use outside of Havoc or unironically Uprising / Malice with all the noobs that pick up grimoires? Corruption is the one thing I never had an issue with but that does come with the caveat of never going melee against a BoN or Demonhosts (whoever woke it up can go die in agony) which the claw also solves cause I just quick jab them and fuck off. What's the benefit you get from it? Am I missing a key mechanic here?
>>582620237>>582622658One more thing, any particular reason for all the health on the curios?
>>582622997Health and Toughness are the meta, so is Gunner Resistance and Revival Speed
>>582622658Oh yeah you could definitely take the ammo over resurgence, I just like it because it enables something unique, and I'm a sucker for that over something that just adds extra ammo.>Taking a look at your build though it's clear you have more faith in the average pleb than I ever willKind of, I do leave my back open and hope my team will cover it a lot, but I'm also spewing out AOE stuns with Transfer Lattice and Overload, as well as the on demand stun from Voltaic if anything sounds scary behind me or I suddenly take a good whack from behind. I also mostly play auric maelstroms over regular matches, I find the teams to be a bit more reliable there than a quickplay.>AblativeJust a comfort pick really, I was frustrated with having a stray poxburster get shot and immediately put me on death's door. One thing that's cool is you can just stand in the BoN's vomit spew and unload into his face because it does nothing to you with Ablative. You can also survive forever in his tummy which happens to me more than I care to admit>HealthWell my biggest defensive talent requires me to get hit before it activates, so I figured I should be able to endure some chip damage. Overall HP just seems to go further than toughness for me, but maybe it's just a comfort pick too. I will say I feel relatively indestructible on this build outside of taking a crusher/mauler overhead to the face.
>>582623174Considering how toughness works, the more you have the better protected you are, which makes having more health worthless. Meta for what or where, is there something in Havoc that demands more health? I legitimately don't know the mechanics behind Havoc besides never having tried it so if it's essential there I rest my case.Gunner res I agree with, I run it on all my curios too and just replace revive speed with ability cooldown.>You can also survive forever in his tummy which happens to me more than I care to admitLegitimately made me kek, now you know why I never approach it (besides the corruption taint) cause I never figured out how or when it does the grab and it's far too late to bother now.As far as the health shit goes, I'm pretty sure the math is in favor or having as much toughness as possible isn't it, cause the more you have available the more it negates that chip damage so say we're both at 80% toughness but my 80% from 200 is gonna protect me better than your 80% from 160 or however much you have now with just the one toughness curio.Won't question it too much though if you can run it in Maelstrom, just that I'm relatively new myself (close to 300 hours in) and I'm thinking maybe is there something I missed?
>>582623839Psychical hits take away health and toughness>Night Lords picI'm getting that banner from joytoy
>>582624041>Psychical hits take away health and toughnessYeah but if your initial toughness is as high as possible don't you negate more of the melee hit or is the health bleed flat across the board? I could have sworn I read somewhere that you block health damage based on the % of your remaining toughness, or is it purely percentage based iregardless of your total?
>>582624356>don't you negate more of the melee hit or is the health bleed flat across the board?I have no idea, some enemies do more damage to health and toughness with one hit than others
>>582624356toughness reduces non corruption damage as a percentage of its total value, any unmitigated melee damage bleeds through to health, and the damage is absorbed by toughness, all damage taken by toughness is a flat amountmost toughness recovery is a percentage of the total value, i think the base is 5% on melee kill, its rare that its a flat amount, like shout is a flat 75 toughness
>>582624356jesus, you two>wordswordswordshp is better if you are good at the game and rarely get hit twice in a row or getting hit at alltoughness is better if you are bad at sliding (vs gunners or in genearl), positioning or just straight up bad at the gameI got 3k hours and I always take at least 1 toughness curio on non-ogryns, take that as you will
>>582624526>>582624974>>582624960Yeah so here's the thing, as far as I know it blocks the hit completely if you're at 100% and the bleed to your health increases with each missing % of your toughness, if you're at 95% toughness you take 5% of that melee hit as bleed damage to your health, 10% on 90% toughness and so on. Exceptions being very powerful hit like crusher/mauler overheads or sniper shots because the damage is higher than your entire toughness even if at 100%.That is why you sometimes get hit more on health, it depends on your remaining toughness. Unless you guys can link something that states otherwise I am of the belief that you are gimping yourselves by running health curios, minus builds that make use of health specifically like zealot wound math.There's also the Scum that gets toughness damage reduction based on remaining stamina, which makes running two +3 stam curios excellent and doubles as a quasi-extra toughness curio.I will test it myself later but if if you make me drop my toughness for nothing I'm strangling all of you.
>>582623839I have a few reasonings for it, none of them are going to be mathematical hard proof that says "x is better than y" though, I let the youtube nerds do that stuff. Firstly is, if we target health we're getting a higher percentage increase (21% vs 17%) on a bigger base number (150 hp vs 100? toughness, I think anyway), so there is more raw number value out of it. Next, is Lattice, my beloved. The time you're most vulnerable to bleed-through damage is after you've just been hit; the first hit damages your toughness, now something can hit your health (and yes I believe you're correct, the % remaining of your toughness is the % of damage that actually affects your toughness, the rest falls through to HP). If you're actively dodging and blocking too, Lattice will trigger on almost every hit you do take, meaning those follow-up hits get stopped before they can swing at you.Skitty also just generates a fuckload of toughness, and TDR makes it go a long way. So let's say you don't take the Lattice node, fair enough, it's a big crutch. Again assuming dodging and blocking, you only need a couple of moments unmolested to catch your breath and be back at near full toughness again.I think in general you should think of toughness as your defense against ranged damage, and health as your defense against melee and corruption damage.
>>582625358>I will test it myself later but if if you make me drop my toughness for nothing I'm strangling all of you.It's best to dial in your preferences yourself on things like this, once you understand how they work. Maybe you'd prefer 2xtoughness 1xhp, or 1xtough 1xhp 1xstam. If it works for you and you're happy with it, then by all means. It's more like something to consider if you find yourself feeling too squishy and vulnerable too often, that's a good reason to consider new defensive strategies. It never hurts to try new things though, you might find something looks weird on paper but feels really good in practice.
>>582625358yeah, thats what i said, the trick toughness is just regen more than the damage youre taking, as long as you get to back 100% after every hit, youre basically invincible, which requires you to be really aggressive, because ultimately you never really die to a death of a thousand cuts because how toughness works, its usually one event that sets everything to fubar, which usually means hp did literally nothing. the only reason why you would want hp is because youre bad and you know youre going to eat chip damage or dealing with a fuckload corruption, but most corruption damage is voluntary
>>582625398See I never tried running Maelstroms on the skit (I'm only confident enough on the Psyker) but you just hit me with the zinger, I never considered the fact I'll go back to 100% toughness by the time they hit me again once the stun from the Lattice triggers, that's actually wonderful when put into perspective, I was always looking at the more pesimistic approach thinking "it's just gonna trigger from a random stray pox and be on cooldown when I need it" but in very high intensity there is no stray anything. I'm pretty sure I have one node I can dispose of on the melee build, have to try it for myself now.
>>582625859Yep and the cooldown is remarkably short all things considered. I genuinely think it's the strongest defensive node on the tree, but I think my insistence on taking it is probably controversial around these parts. Lots of people prefer to solve their problems with "git gud" and opt for more damage whenever possible, which is an understandable way to do things too.
>>582625358Only desperado scum is where I run a more traditional 2 toughness and 1 health curio combination. Otherwise, I run 1 toughness and 2 stamina. Yes, even as crate scum and bonesaw for the meme.Two or three toughness curio work well more for Ogryn and Arbie who are always meleeing. Psykers have Just a dream node can work for 2 health curios. Zealots have Bleed for the emperor, Resoring faith and Faith's fortitude to even go for 3 health curios without touching Martyrdom keystone.
Entropic transfer as shit as it sounds?>12% toughness replenished over 4 seconds on electrocution
Made a melee skitty and then spent every minute playing just blasting away with a laspistol..
>>582625398Man, things always look so much cooler in concept art.
>>5826265603% per second is respectable, not amazing, but it's fine if your build is getting good uptime on it.
>>582626792As soon as I posted I realised it was a loadbearing tax node for other shit I wanna keep
>>582626924are you not picking weakness doctrine or system shock
>>582626983I have both of those plus overcharge transfer and kinetic energy just above
>>582626694You just gotta unlock some new hoods, the ones with the cog pattern look a lot better
>>582627070then its not a tax node
>>582626560Only regen toughness on the first electrocution application. I'd rather put Confident strike on arc maul if I want more toughness regen.
What the fuck do we do today?
>>582627130If I get rid of it I can't reach the left two
>>582627247just pick galvanized coating
>>582627190Finish your Nagash campaign
>>582627285All that does is move the point I want freed
>>582627384you should be picking it anyway
>>582627384It's an improvement over the alternative, at least.
>>582627452>>582627479thanks, will do
>>582626694
>malicelets having the curio debate again and getting everything as wrong as can physically be gotten wrongYou're fucking adorable but I'm not going to bother actually educating you faggots because you'll just sperg out again. Lead a horse to water type shit every time.
>Havocels shitting up Auric again cuz they can't play their nerd modefor shame
>>582626234>Lots of people prefer to solve their problems with "git gud" and opt for more damage whenever possible, which is an understandable way to do things too.I'm trying that approach myself and you don't even have to be as strict, I'm bleeding health all the time but almost always I end up at the medicae before I get downed, even on the no medicae event from a few months back I would eventually get a medstim to drop and patch the hole. >but medicae is a crutch anonOne that I will gladly make use of when I know +70% of the times the damage coming from behind me is subpar.It's also the reason why I want as much toughness as possible, it's great if you get to stay at 100% but even if you drop often but not too low under (say 70-80% is the lowest you go on average) you still end up preventing bleeds in the long run the more toughness you have. Now if I think about what would Lattice do here, I might just push that number higher.>>582624041More Night Lords just for you darling.
>>582627731>gets carried to the finish line>complains because they went too fastMaybe you should lower the difficulty so you don't spend half the game waiting at the respawn.
>>582627816just kill faster bro
>>582627816Ultimately either route is viable on Auric and down to preference. I recommend just playing with a couple different splits between toughness and hp and seeing if you even notice a difference.>medicae is a crutchNever listen to any nigger that says this unless they're talking about Martyrdom
>>582627589This isn't from darktide
>>582581849>Fatshark will never EVER be competent.After being 15+ years in the video game developement you expect them to be.Only reason Fatshark is at all alive is because they have the WHF and 40k licenses from GW.Without these the studio would have fucking died years ago.
>>582593904They probably would.However Fartshart will never add them because the game isn't about marines.
>>582598794Burgle is the weakest one there is. It is more closer to a daemonic beast than a "real daemon".
>>582626560on its own its meh, but if you stack the % toughness regain from talents (optional toughness regen aura) its pretty nice, it's better for ranged builds that struggle with getting gunned down and then one motherfucker sneaks in a melee attack, the constant regen of TN is not that noticeable in melee fight where you're regaining it constantly by killing things anyway
>>582620869>Literally only repential and canonness uses Everiscerator.Irrelevant, still an SoB thing first and foremost.>every human class has boltgunFactually wrong.>zealot should have flamerAgreed, still doesn't change the fact it is more connection to the SoB.We are never getting sisters because zealot exists, and also because if sisters arrive they will be destroying all of Tertium to get rid of Admonition. Aka, the story and game are over.
I think trappers should not be able to shoot through crowds.>but then they would never get an opportunity to fireGOOD.
>>582629442This nigga got bagged up
>>582628852The future will prove me right we are getting Sisters.
>>582629442bagged that freak
>>582628630Surly it's stronger than a plaguebearer
>>582629481>>582629682Reject sisters, not like this...
>>582629537Hyping yourself up for something non-existant is a bad idea.
>>582629537but what about my zealot that I already themed around being a sister?
>>582630426delete her
Am I missing something about dukane?Why the fuck is an inquisition squad getting pushed around by a random commissar
>>582633067because she outranks them, rannick only has power because he has a thing that says he has power, but thats not really power, hes a low level mook, he cant leverage it in a meaningful way like grendyl can
>>582629537I'm pretty sure you're arguing with the same fucking guy who is wrong about SoB lore all the time. I'm not going to use the RJ word, but he's a recurrent figure/faggot.He knows that SoB are a popular class idea and so wants to piss people off.You can recognise him when he makes the same (inaccurate) authoritative "final word" claims that it will never happen because of some rules he made up such as Flamers only being used by Sisters, Sisters always destroying planets, Sisters being "on par with space marines" etc.
>>582633761Rannick does have more power than Dukane, he's just humoring her because he's smart enough to realize that pissing off a commissar that is in charge of an entire guard regiment isn't productive and worst case scenario Dukane might just pull couple of strings of her own and get herself and her forces to leave and go back to Branx Magna to protect it.It's just internal politics.
>>582633067>>582633761Rannick basically said "sure sure whatever you say, go nuts" and went back to working on Inquisition business while letting her run operations out of the Mourningstar. People give Rannick shit but he finessed support out of the Moebian 53rd, the Adeptus Arbites, and the Conclave without ceding any real power to any of them. I imagine Grendyl would approve of how he's handled Dukane, she's placated, applying military pressure to the warfront, and still kept out of the plans Inquisition and warband.Yeah she gets to requisition some rejects for her projects, but for the purposes of the story rejects are a dime a dozen and nobody really cares what they get deployed for.
>>582634828>>582634904To add some evidence: Dukane asks Morrow things all the time and Morrow basically blows smoke up her ass every time.He tells her something like "If Rannick hasn't bothered to tell you that yet, it's probably not my position to tell you for him"Everybody's just humoring her because she thinks she's a boss bitch.
>>582622471You can mod them out
>>582633067It's a jurisdictional issue.Atoma - specifically, Tertium - is in the shit because of a peasant uprising coupled with a military coup/rebellion from a rogue Army unit. On the face of things, at least.The governor of Atoma, being fond of both his position and his head, has called in yet more of the Army to sort this shit out ASAP. So Dukane is conducting her own operations, and quite capably so it seems, if a little too unwittingly 'conventionally' for what is definitely NOT just a food riot and power grab.MEANWHILE Grendyl, already on the trail of something we don't know about yet empowers one of his more promising underlings to handle this while he's off doing... something else. Said underling (Rannick) is still just an underling however and doesn't quite have the political pull or personal contacts that the actual Inquisitor does. Besides, the rebellion is still ongoing so it's not as if the =][= can claim any clear and undeniable success to tell Dukane to butt out. We've made solid progress, true, but that's not going to help the governor and nobility when the Adminstratum FINALLY notices something is up. On the other hand, the 53rd very nearly got wiped out during deployment, only narrowly averted by Rannick's discovering it and a literal last-minute operation. So we've come to an... understanding. She does her BIG BATTLES, we do our sneaky-beaky stuff, and we hopefully sort this whole mess out.As for potentially blamming Rejects, she's a effectively a trusted and renowned noble, we're mouthy peasants who don't know our place. The exact TO&E chart won't even come into it. Don't forget that Brahms could cheerfully flush us all out of the airlock for "violating the good order of the Mourningstar" and no-one would bat an eyelid, both because of her Warrant and being the ship's Master. That's HER jurisdiction.
>>582638379Keep it short or keep it to yourself, Dan Abnett
>>582634715Good to know thanks for looking out anon
>watch a video about darktide why not>character names and story I haven't even heard once in years of playing the gamefucks sake fatshark
>>582601604>implying auric storm survivors play heresyonly havoc exemplars do that
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>582627336People do that?>>582627816>>582623839Very cool…
>read a 40k book about how a single chaos space marine made an entire loyalist world fallWhy do we even bother if they can just do that
>>582633067Because Rannick is basically allowing her to. Which is fine, but it’s stuff like her openly wanting to poach members of an inquisition warband that should get her disappeared. At the very least some kind of pushback is due. Commissar, girlboss or whatever, that’s simply not something you should ever attempt to do.
>>582642201To be fair she worded that conversation carefully so as not be direct about it, it was more of an implication.
>>582642190>reading 40k booksThere has never been niggershit shat out more vile than the 40k books, bar some straight up non-book long form textual mental illnesses like fanfics etc. I tried reading one and I wanted to claw my fucking eyes out and lobotomize myself out of boredom, revulsion and contempt. And no I'm not saying that I'm le too smart for them, they are just straight up nightmare fuel bad dogshit.Also they're all over the place regarding the power level, adding to their worthlessness.In-game I'm pretty sure we could fucking rape a Chaos Space Marine as a team, even a Plague Marine (not counting any infections afterwards).
>>582640297Tsk. Some associates are such philistines.Ogryn version:The emperor likes her enough to call first dibs on rations, but he likes us too much to let her kick us out.
>>582642190They can't, books are not a primary source
>helldivers now has client side mods that let you tune your weapons/gear and play on public serversimagine being a dev even less competent than obese fish lel
>>582643423>In-game I'm pretty sure we could fucking rape a Chaos Space Marine as a teamDarktide rejects aren't canon.
>knuckledusters>new style of ripper gun>2 handed mace>giant wrench>orlock ganger clothesAt least we now know what kind of stuff we might get for ogryn in the future.Mind you many of these things could still never be added or it will take years before they ever arrive in the game.
>>582642190Because that guy was an exception and that also took a very long time. Most of them don’t have the patience or charisma to do that. Also he was a Word Bearer and that’s kind of what they do. You’re leaving out some very important context here.
>>582644375who up spudding they jack rn
>>582644375Damn these look cool as fuck. Shame that for the above reasons we're never ever ever ever going to get them
>>582644548*loud incorrect buzzer sound*
>>582644692jakking they spud?
>>582644454>that also took a very long time.not that long considering the sisters of battle were still in the area looking for them
>>582643990Sometimes it feels like these companies are in on one big joke
>>582644947yeah, the joke is the swedish culture and mentality.
>tomorrow darktide will be saved>0 hypegrim grim grim
>another content update without contentyawn
>>582644935Maybe, I don’t think we’re ever given an exact time frame, but it’s definitely longer than most are willing to tolerate. Bottom line is it isn’t done by him strolling onto the scene and pummeling everyone as was implied, hell, his entire warband was even wiped out and it’s still an ongoing effort iirc.
>>582644887*loud incorrect buzzer sound*
>>582646265but there's actually content this time THOUGH
1 more sleep and we will be getting more blunt weapons and shotguns
RATJEET
>>582502227How does she keep her torture instruments red hot?
>>582647119Yes, massa? Please don't rape me again. My bussy is mighty sore!
>>582646265We're getting a new map and 6 weapons retard, what the fuck does content mean to you?
>>582581086Two different mags on that gun? Am I seein' that right?
>>582647381Map made out of reused Torrent biome assets, 4 useless variants, 1 reskin and then 1 actually new weapon*
>>582644375That kind of Ripper Gun is the very old version. The blocky type that looks sort of like a bolter is from 4th edition I believe.>>582647192Faith in the Emperor, of course.
>>582647381Don't engage with the rat tranny. He will keep claiming that nothing is new no matter how much you btfo his ass
>>582648014meanwhile the flesh tearers...
ROTTA
>>582642190alpha legion does that shit all the time, and usually just so they can steal the face of someone else so they sneak into loyalist chapter to fight some other warband to steal some tech so they can cause more uprisings
>>582648139daily reminder to just ignore the nonhuman's posts
>>582627190I dunno, I finished dark souls 2 last week and 3 yesterday. Noped out of the DLC areas of 3 after both of them have multiphase fights. I'm tired boss.
JETA
Strike team? Silence now, please. Rannick is sleepy.
Shrike team? Sing something, now, please. Rannick is bored.
god i wish veteran had some actual fucking melee weapons that arent just light attack spam. seriously why does psyker have the coolest melee in the game? what a joke.
>>582642190It's not like it's hard, the imperium is so full of corruption that entire planets are already primed to fall to chaos without intervention. The entire theme of 40k is that everything is hanging by a thread.
JUST GIVE ME THE HALBERD
>>582650038you want more clubs and shotguns? sure, friend, we've got you covered!
GAMES LANTERN IS DOWN HOW THE FUCK WILL I PLAY THE GAME NOW????????????
they desperately DESPERATELY need more big two handed swords in the game. no actually it doesnt have to be swords just big two handers its the only weapons that are actually fun to use.
JUST GIVE ME MORE CLUBS AND SHOTGUNS
I want more marks for weapons nobody uses.
>>582651168Unironically a good way to make shit weapons usable without admitting their mistakes
>>582650305Just click the blue dots unti you get to the purple dots at the bottom. That should do the trick!
I want less marks for weapons everybody uses.
>>582651413I think the new double barrel is a straight upgrade to the old one numberswise. Will they rebalance the old one? Who knows....
>>582651779That would be unrecoverable loss of izzat
*spams light attacks for 20 minutes*whew what a good map am i rite lads???
>>582644206everything licensed by GW is canon until they inevitably retcon it by gaslighting
>>582627854havocucks can't carry anythingthey're too used to having a team composition where they don't have to
>>582646130got my hands full saving middenland from beastmen invasionwhile also trying to save blue from red and green team invasionso many games, so little time
>>582644206one of the missions wolfer or one of his subordinates theorises that the people attacking them are a platoon, which would be around 30-50 people according to google. so im guessing thats where our power level should be at and anything else is just videogame
>>582616728Unofficial modded realm for Darktide soon (NOW), Stalker.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1223https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1297
I spend a lot more time waiting for darktide updates than i do playing darktide
>>582655005Why not just play something else in the meantime?
>>582655481Darktide broke me like cocomelon breaks little kids. I need too much stimulation
>>582655678addicted to spamming light attacks? eeerrrmmm batman could beat this out me xdddD
The rat tranny is so boring
So the thugshot isnt a mark its a *new* weapon? So we have basically a third ROOMBLER skin?
>>582655970all marks are also just skins
I want less marks.
now that thugshot exists, single stubbers are completely useless, right?
>>582658250Fewer, not less
>>582658373single stubber is your nickname because you just stubbed your toe and you have no bitches
>>582658250
>>582658574
>>582649749What if Veteran got a power fist!Light attacks would be>Relentless, Strike downHeavy attacks would be>Strike down, Relentless, Strike Down, RelentlessYou'd alternate L1 H1 to do relentless attacks.One of the Heavy strike downs would be like a semi-powered shove that knocks anything lighter than an Ogryn over.Special action would be an activated mega strike down without much cleave but ignores hitmass>>582650741I also really like two handed swords.I would like there to be a lighter, weaker, faster moving version of the Relic Blade.Also a good Heavy Sword mark.
>>582655678You're cooked, man. Should have compartmentalized your dopamine spikes so they didn't breach containment and ruin the rest of your fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8KyA_lBP5A
>>582659672Bro please provide advice on this subject.
>>582659782shan't watch your vid nigga
>>582659875You have to go outside.
I want more weapons.
>>582660339then you're in luck!more weapons are coming soon!
>>582660385No! I don't want that!
>>582659782>inbuilt thrust works only on special attackBOOOO
>>582659875DIVERSIFY your hobbies, have an ebb and flow. I'm assuming you're doing nothing but darktide. Get a creative hobby. Music, art, woodworking, cooking. Something to give that dopamine a rest.
>>582659875Subject yourself to sensory deprivation torture to reset your dopamine levels.
>>582660904easier said than done, that's "bee yourself" level of advice
>>582660731Then you have to wait until Christmas and make sure you're a good boy so that Santa gives you new weapons for Christmas.
>>582660904>bro just start woodworking
>>582661202>>582660904>b urselfNot really, it's genuinely good advice. But you gotta cold-turkey your biggest dopamine generators for a week or two, maybe a month even, THEN do something else. Otherwise you'll just relapse to the 'tide
>>582659782>they gave ogryn the Bardin's Hammer>but it's also the pickaxebased
>>582654371>vibecoded AND made by a chinkYeah no.
>>582661202The internet literally makes picking up new hobbies easy. >>582661340>Ignores the other 3 examplesAlright I admit woodworking is a little stretch, but not impossible to pick up.
>>582661913>>Ignores the other 3 examplesthey weren't as funnyIt just seems a stretch to start a hobby just because you want to have more fun in a video game. But I agree with your sentiment. Doing things away from video games does make video games more fun.
This is my feelings on every class in darktideVeteran: Favorite class fantasy because hes just a guardsmen, i do not like that for some reasons fatshark wants him to be The Ranged class. Just let him do what he wants man. hes melee weapons are big sux, because all of them are just fast attacking spam weapons that become boring after one or 2 missions. really really sad character.Zealot: Also a great class fantasy, i would enjoy playing him if he wasnt entirely focused (even more so with the new patch) on the unkillable shit. i like my classes to actually be punished so that the game remains fun and not baby easy mode. Hes also practically the only melee class because the rest of them are just a hybrid of the two. waste of potential. also most of his weapons are just spam, yes even the relic blade.Psyker: best class to play in the game and its only because of the force greatsword. i dont care about psykers they suck, their personality sucks. but shit they actually have a fun melee weapons so hes automatically the best class.Ogryn: hes too easy. staggers too much. its baby mode.Hive scum: stimms are gay. the shivs are cool until you realize its better to just spam light attacks on literally anything even elites. i dont like upkeeping the stupid stimm keystone it sucks to sit there and watch cooldowns. but hes otherwise fine. and hey he actually gets punished if you do bad pretty nice.skitarius: baby mode baby mode baby mode. its not even fun because you just do more while doing less and not in a good way, its very very very boring. baby mode with a pacifier in. trash design whoever made this should combust themselves.i havent played arbitrator because i dont like shield classes.
>>582659782>ogryn gets a gun with the entire gimmick being that it one shots everything smaller than an ogryn >can't one shot gunners with h40 modifiersKEK
>>582662275>rejeetnald videoChances are it just needs flak + unarmored and a ranged damage node in the tree. Rejeetnald isn't a good player or a good buildcrafter so he would never consider it.
>>582662274Your post is an excellent case study in how posts with severely retarded grammar are made by retards with severely retarded opinions, with such a strong correlation that one can simply ignore such posters' opinions.
>>582662150>It just seems a stretch to start a hobby just because you want to have more fun in a video game.I view it more as increasing the quality of life as a whole, rather than a means to an end for a vidya junkie to regain the high they lost.
>>582662150>>582661437>>582660904>just take a break, bro
>>582662274you are who you are and you like what you like and that's a great thing
>>582662630I may not look like that, but i do say that. You'll have fun tomorrow anon, trust the plan.
>>582662630and let me guess I gotta also get a gf
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>>582662825no no that's complete overkill and actually comes with downsidesthe cool thing about taking a break is that you get to pick what kind of break you want!
>>582662274>like him for being just a guardsman>i don't like that the guardsman is The Ranged characterremarkable.
>>582662274I mean you're stupid as shit bless your heart but your takes are semi-based, I'll 'llow itand give an ogryn a second chance, he really shines in higher difficulties where you actually have to think about what you're doing
>>582663237im fully aware thats hypocritical, but its a tide game. its okay for him to have atleast one weapon that isnt literally just spamming attacks
>>582662582>Your post is excellentthank you
>>582659782the thugshot has got to take the crown of fatshark's most half arsed weapon.
>>582663920based retard
>spam spam spamWhat the fuck is this new bait? Of course you need to "spam" attacks when face with hundreds of enemies on screen. Would you rather fell them all with one swing or what?
This is my feelings on every class in darktideVeteran: Great! Really good at light attack spamming!Zealot: Phenominal! Awesome at light attacking!Psyker: Fantastic! I really love his weapons light attacks!Ogryn: Hes really fun! His light attacks are awesome!Hive scum: Really awful too squishy and does no damage, but hes got okay light attacks to spaskitarius: I love him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i havent played arbitrator because i heard he does heavy attacks
>>582664195rat trannoid found a new way to annoy us, ignore it
>>582664195>moonlight greatsword psykers be like
>>582664195Problem is that its only spamming light attacks and nothing else.
I wonder if I can get the dorkshiters to call ME the ratjeet today
This is my feelings on every class in DarktideVeteran: Recon las is fun and I don't mind being a shoutbotZealot: haven't leveled one to 30 yetPsyker: inferno staffOgryn: Tauntgryn and Roombler are funSkitarius: most fun class, I will never not use power overloadHive Scum: pro gamer power fantasy class. Pretty fun, but bringing it into Havoc means you have to carry. Arbites: tanky fun, wish it had more utility in Havoc. Following boombox sound like it might be cool.
so he wakes around these hours uh
>>582664195Some people want complicated swordplay. You and me, clicking to not die works fine.
This is my feelings on every class in DarktideThe Uninstall Wizard:
Just play roombler if you want to kill everything on your screen without meleeing I guess>thats braindead!Ok and?
>>582664707cookie clicker ass opinion
>>582664683it's random, he's clearly unemployed shame the mods stopped giving a fuck
>>582664758and it gives me a headache
>>582664567But that's just not true? Many weapons optimal horde clearing combo is alternating light and heavy attacks in different patterns? There are simpler ones which are "spammy" but even then carapace and shielded dudes prevent just mindless spam.
>>582664758Why does effective simple strategies cause such irrational anger in gamers?
>>582664830each gen gotta have one molested neet
>>582664195The light attack spam shitpost follows the exact same pattern as the shitposting about the ripper, the same 5 maps, ratjeet and other assorted topics intended to derail the thread.
>>582659782God the shotgun is fucking awful, no breakpoints on gunners even point-blank on a VET WITH THE RANGED KEYSTONE
>>582659782>new slab shield is STILL just fucking Heavy 1 spam and light attacks are fucking uselessThank you fatshark, I hope your next game fails so spectacularly that Tencent just dissolves your fucking studio and sells all the assets.
>>582665687oh now you guys dont like spamming the same button over and over again
>>582612045Considering Admonition seems to be every bit as uncaring for the well being of the assets under its control as the usual cult is, I’d probably more surprised if *didn’t* happen at some point lol. Maybe they even had a trial run experiment where they gauged just what they were able to make it do. Though they probably just used random people in that instance.
Light light light > H1H1H1H1 > light heavy light heavy > light heavy heavy light heavy heavy > heavy light > heavy heavy heavy
>>582665947STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP YOUR RUIIINING THIS GENERAL STOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPP
fucking mods I swear to fucking God man can you do your fucking job please
>>582664604>>582664263Very cool!>>582664920Sometimes more if you’re unlucky.
For me it's push attack light light heavy light light, or light heavy block cancel light heavy
>>582666572yeah gacha threads got three
>>582664604>VeteranSolid enough for Heresy. Struggles on Damnation unless you have good skill and a build for it. I don't mind being a shout bot either, but I like trying the other abilities for variety's sake. Krieg Build is a must if you ever slop for the cosmetics.>ZealotGreat fun; but only if you lock in on movement, which is hell on the left hand (alas the price to pay for skill). Flamer is always ass, and I wish Fat Shark would make it work and stop with the puffs on their flame throwers. >PsykerAwful when you're starting out and new. Pretty great once you get used to the guy and pops off once you get a good build for him going to melt everything in front of you. No matter what though, he's still glass, and it's mandatory to accept to go down or die at least once, even if you're good. >Ogryn DA BEST. LUV ME BOOMER. LUV ME BEAT STICK. LUV ME BEEG SNIPA RIOFLE. LUV. ME. TWINK-LINKED STUBBER. DAKKA! DAKKA! DAKKA!>ArbitratorSHOTGUN BOOGIE! BOY THE FEATHERS FLEW! LOOK OUT MR. DOVE WHEN SHE DRAWS A BEAD ON YOU! Joke aside. I understand the annoyance that he's a crutch for garbage players. But I always stand firm that in competent players, Arby's saves games unless the Director has a hissy fit and summons the KKK (Krusher Klown Kar). Love the dog, and while I love Castigating with my Shotgun, the Nuncio really helps in being pure TONK.>Hive ScumI get they needed something while they were working on Skitarii. I get that it's supposed to be like "Oh hey I'm a bootleg Necromunda guy", and they have a solid kit for a good time. But the fantasy kinda pales to Ogryns, Cops, and Skittles in my opinion. Deffo high skill ceiling for murder, but as everyone says, they go down to a nurgling fart if you stop to rest your hand for a moment>SkitariiWhat a perfect replacement for what Veteran should be (lol). Love me Skull, Love me Voltaic farts, Love me Arc Rifle and Trans blades. But above all else, I love my Space Garand.
>>582659782>thugshot can't even kill a H40 gunner unless it's a critLmaoAlso I like how Regi is trying to spin the thugshot as "bro it's good for specials and it is just a side arm for the melee builds", like the fucking grenade gauntlet, rumbler or single stubbers don't exist.>goes to say he didn't even test it just shot it in the psykaniumThat's just him admitting the gun is fucking useless.>the new slab shield is still useless and does FUCK ALL damage, but this is ok because it is for "le tanking bro"This is dogshit, this isn't even a good weapon. The shield isn't even good for crowd control that much anymore because the Cruncher, Karsolas and Power Maul exist.
>>582666825you sound like you have 10 hours on this game
I REALLY could use like 1-2 more loadout slots per class, you think if I message Fartshart they will listen to me?
>>582667068https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/209
>>582667224nani the fuckI thought those are stored server-side?
>>582666825Cute hersytard
>>582666825>LUV ME BOOMER. LUV ME BEAT STICK. LUV ME BEEG SNIPA RIOFLE. LUV. ME. TWINK-LINKED STUBBER.based lad
>>582667387https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/578actually use this one instead
>>582667047Not counting my starting days when I FIRST tried this game out via game pass (It came with 3 months free on a prebuilt I bought).
>>582668070jesus christ man 1k hours and youre still stuck in heresy that shits SAD!
>>582667068I want to hug that pig.>>582667393I like Heresy/Damnation. I am getting into Damnation more often now, but I just wanna kill heretics casually. Get on my Ogryn, pick High Intensity, dakka hordes into pulp, take a nap. Life good.
>>582668153I'm having fun though.
>>582668275Yes that's cute. Just remember that you suck and your opinion isn't valuable.
>>582665687Thati s incredibly funny to me, why did they even bother making a new one?
>>582668070This has to be learning disability at this point. I have 300 hours and i can consistently clear H40. I don't feel anything playing below Auric.
>>582668537Cool. Imma go jack off and take a nap. You keep on being the spiteful little creature.
>>582642983True, but it’s a very heavy handed implication, and implication or not that kind of behavior is the sort of thing jumpier Inquisitors and their subordinates blam people for at a moments notice.
>>582668884Based.
>>582668884amen
>>582668275hey for $10 bucks you can fuck it
>Ping wrong path to team in new map>Go to the right path on my own>Watch them eat shit through the windows on my pathThis new map will be interesting.
>Ping right path to team in new map>Go to the wrong path on my own>They watch me eat shit through the windows on their pathThis new map will be awful.
I can say with confidence that it really doesn't matter that much which path you take, its far more important that the team stays together and doesn't split
>>582670993There will be at least one retard walking off though.
The fork is gonna be one of those places where runs end because everyone splits up
>>582670841>"Buncha PUSSIES! I can handle the hard pa -ACK!">Ogryn walks up to window and does the stimm jerk off
>>582671142I already know exactly how it's going to go down>retard #1 runs down wrong path>you and other guy correctly identify that the team just has to commit at that point so follow >last retard: "HEY GUYS THAT'S THE WRONG PATH!!!! YOU'RE DOING THE WRONG PATH!!!!">runs off to the other route alone>dies in an unrezable spot>proceeds to type passive-aggressive snarky comments in chat
>>582672490I'm more of the thinking that two will go down one path, two go down another, well meaning team player notices the other two went off and backtracks to go join them, the player he abandons dies because he can't fight alone, the team player dies because he has no situational awareness except for where other players are and goes down to a trapper or dog from behind, then the other two backtrack to try and res them but get pincered by spawns coming from both directions.
>>582672490I look like this and behave like this
>>582665687They will. Their combat designer left the studio last year, and their combat design and warhammer IPs are the ONLY reason anyone puts up with their otherwise horrible dogshit assfucking studio.
Next thread is the patch thread, make it a good one
>>582672490Me on the right btw
>>582643423>Also they're all over the place regarding the power level welcome to 40kdoesn't mean it isn't still possible to establish a baseline for stuff and the rejects could beat just about anything if GW/Fatshark wanted it badly enough so that's not saying much
>>582659782>Shotguns are STILL badI fucking hate swedoids so much it's unreal.
>>582643423Ironic you say this because the actual book he’s talking about is pretty good all considered.
>>582667068i look like this
>>582674314>>582674314>>582674314MOVE
>>582643423Don't care.Cawl is funny and i read every book where he's a player.>b-b-but primaris suc-Don't care, just like Cawl.>B-B-B-BUT HE'S A MARRY SU-The fact that he makes people like you seeth only increase my enjoyment.
>>582644454>>582646269don’t forget the planet in question was also his home so he has a very vested interest in getting revenge on it.
>>582644454>You're leaving out some very important context here.It's crazy how often this is the case when it comes to talking about anything 40k.Be it power levels or some pivotal event this is just frequently the case.Depressing.
>>582673789You look like that.
>>582671169>BETTER THAN BREAKFAST!>Goons for Slaanesh
>>582668884
>>582674813>be cawl>slaps his name on everything>displays basic bitch wisdom which is a lost art in 40k>employs lost knowledge on his quest to avert disasterHe's basically an isekai protagonist and it's great
>>582669551This is NOT true
>>582437795>>582568712made it too obvious
>>582675254>>582674813Based Cawl enjoyers.
>>582643423I liked the gaunts ghost books and also atleast the first fabius bile book was pretty ok. but i really recommend the felix and gotrek books. specifically the ones written by william king (which is the first ones)
