>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4th
ok we got it. you hate trans people. are you happy now?
>>583771464>>583771495>nothingunsurprising
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>no dungeon exp>no dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to>main dev literally said in a podcast that the players are fucking retarded if they don't play rogue>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own motheryep, they gave up on wow fogever
Blood Elves are High Elves. If you want Alliance High Elves you are a faggot.
windfury should not be in the game
>>583772045>fogever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqjx_JOKAJ4
>>583772045Most of those are positives.
What currency is this? I live in aus
>>583772095Wokedollar
men playing as women should not be in the game
>>583772095something is worth nothing, probably argentinian money or turkish
>>583772095korean won
>>583772161won what
>>583772161what did he win?
>>583772052As an Alliance main I agree. Every pserver that's ever had high elves (notably Prologue and Turtle WoW) it was only the lowest of the low freaks of nature that would play as them.
>>583772095looks like Worlo Dollar.
>>583772052Blood elves should go to the alliance and amani should go to the horde.
>>583772052Anon can you go to the Hinterlands and tell me whats at Quel'danil Lodge?Or if you have retail can you go to WotLK Dalaran and tell me who runs the Alliance district there?
>>583772161Wtf
>>583771806WoW Fagever
>several layers per zone>no more world bosses>only one pvp server So why do they still want to separate horde/alliance character creation on the pvp ruleset? You can can only play one faction forever unless you pay for more accounts? Nice grift.
I can't fucking decide what to go. I love tanking and prot actually looks fun now but even after the nerfs it looks like everyone is still going warrior and I dislike getting dumpstered in pvp and no one fucking heals outside of raids ever. Becoming the healslut priest seems fun but pve healing is mindnumbingly boring and there doesn't seem to be a healer shortage like there is a tank shortage. The next logical step is druid but druid gear always looks retarded. I am NOT going paladin.
>>583772095Wolololo
>>583772309Just go warrior.
>>583772293race traitors
>>583772298Yeah Asian currencies being valued in the thousands or tens of thousands per dollar value always makes me guffaw.
you are rolling a hybrid tank class at launch, right?
>>583772309you can dual spec . Tank Warrior with PVP DPS warrior.
>>583772259This is the true answer and everyone is too blind to see it.Blood Elves should never have been Horde. They should have rejoined the Alliance after they got over Garithos
>>583772293There are multiple "lodges" with high elves hanging around.Actually were are more high elves in vanilla than there were blood elves if you count the npc number.
>>583772387not gonna play the game
>>583772259>this timeline hasn't had us rape Zul'jin>it is technically possible that the forest troll re-join the Horde>also Blood Elves aren't in the Horde (yet) so their nemesis isn't present either
>>583772305>thing i made up in my head>more schizophrenia >another lie i conjured>>bullshit bait doomposting seethe etc etc etc etc etc
>>583772387I exlusively play tank and prot builds.>thank you for your service, now that you are 60, either nolife and create your own raiding guild or get fuck, nobody needs you anymore
>>583772293>>583772438Question is, why are these places called lodges?Are they implying that High Elves are Freemasons?
>>583772458Nothing about that post is made up though.I just want to be able to roll both factions now that there's literally no reason to separate them at character creation.
>>583772414But you're forgetting that horde NEEDS a pretty race, otherwise the chinks won't play it.The simplest solution would be these emo/goth elves akin to Sylvanas, but blizzard likes to invent new retarded races.
>>583772401ALL warriors get dumpstered in pvp and get treated like second class citizens when forming bg groups. That's what I mean, though prot looks like it might actually be good in pvp.
>>583772456Uuuh didnt you play heccin Midnight chud? Zul'jin is a le torturing ch-chud who hurt poor Liadrin (a proud lesbian btw)You shouldnt look up to him chuddy
>>583772535A tank being good in PVP? HOW!?
>>583772456This is what I'm most hopeful for. The horde fighting and killing Zul'jin is fucking retarded and they only did it because blizzard made the blood elves join the horde so the horde has a pretty race. We have that now thanks to the sky elves. Thank you sky elves for the possibility of this future.
>>583772496They're more like hunting lodges or the types of lodges you see in the mountainsIn the manga Quel'danil is actually more than a lodge, apparently there they had stone buildings and everything
>>583772496Lodge is just a fancier hunting cabin somewhere in the mountains.I never saw it linked to freemasons specifically.Now dwarves however...
>>583772095W money
>>583772571Revenge does crazy damage, Shield Slam looks like it'll hit like a truck, and 4 min Shield Wall. Only problem is casters but there's Shield Bash and Concussive to at least somewhat handle them.
Since I can't decide on a class I'm going tauren druid on release. Might as well have a bit of everything How boring are classic bear and cat?
>>583772456>>583772586what was the given reason for Horde mercing Zul'Jin at the time anyway?
>>583772769spell power bear thorns killing shit is very powerful
>>583772769>How boring are classic bear and cat?Druid is a boring class but can do everything. A lot of the fun is how much autism you're willing to put into it.
>>583772781The quest was given by someone literally named Bud Nedreck and he literally just wanted to loot Zul'AmanThat eas your grand story and the reason you raid ZA
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cYqQDGBLw0watching this shit, warlocks still pathetic, resto druid segment had .4 seconds, only buffed feral which sucks anyway because of gear
>>583772887
AhemWoW Forever should have Wrath or Cata style rotations and spellsThank you for listening
when are they adding pandaren
>>583772781Zul'jin was rightfully pissed off at the horde for siding with the blood elves because they murdered tons of their people and stole their shit, horde went to kill zul'jin because horde was working with blood elves.It was always retarded to me especially when the blood elves sided with alliance in the past and taught them how to use magic which is why the alliance has mages and the horde sided with the amani before to try and kill the blood elves.
>>583772535>prot looks like it might actually be good in pvpWe can only hope. Prot PvP in wotlk was kino.
>>583772456>>583772586>The horde fighting and killing Zul'jin is fucking retardedRemember the Horde presence in the region is the Forsaken, i.e. Lordaeronians. The Amani had a mutually hostile relationship with Lordaeron for a long time.
DING DING DINGFRESH COPEGET YOUR FRESH COPE
>>583773008>Prot PvP in wotlk was kinoGod I miss that.
>>583772250
holy priests are pathetic, Id rahte get a shaman healer 100% of the time, and discipline is just for pvp, so priest are only worth it when shadow BUT WAIT the devs hate hybrids which means it'll always be worse than mages or warlocks, lmao what a cucked class
For all you faggots crying about High Elves you need to know they ARE coming and they barely didn't make the cut for the initial release of Forever>alliance high elf + some other new non-elf horde race was planned for release>microsoft demanded both factions get elves on launch to sell the bundle>devs have to scramble for a quick solution so they ask metzen for help>metzen comes up with sky elves that can be on both factions instead>they have the retail team help quickly cobble together their starting zoneThis is why their starter zone questlines play out like retail quests, their SD models weren't ready for beta, the blue elf lady only shows up for a second at the end of the cinematic, and why NPCs that call you by your race still refer to them as "High Elf".
>>583773124LUDOKINOS O V L
>>583772454Why are you here, then?
>>583773152holy priest is the best healer.
DING DING DING!!!
>>583773195SHUT UP AND FUCK YOU
>>583773195I am doing the awaken peons quest irl where I awake you, peons, about how bad the game is going to be
>>583773238this is true, happened with som happened with sod happened with tbc and wrath
>>583773152Holy priest will be the least played healer because everyone will demand you be disc to bring PI for the parsefags.
>>583773278You are a champion of the people, a true Hero.
>>583773124They coul be neutral npcs in Tanaris or something
>>583772981>"the elves took my eye. I cut off my own arm to escape them and now they fight alongside the Horde? I spit on the Horde!">"I hate you. I hate you all"One of the best raid trailers Blizz ever made.
blizzard already killed forever with the dungeon nerfs, the dads rolled pvp and will try to escape into dungeons only for it to give them no exp so theyll just quit before level 40
>>583773278shame it pays out no rep or money or xp irl
we better get draenei in the next 6 months or there will be hell toupe
alright so why does the shaman short video has 999x more views than all the other classes?
>>583773486This coping is just so pathetic in every single thread, just admit you're mad you can't boost or skip half the game by spamming sm.
>>583773124The only thing I want in Forever
So where do these Foreverpvp people get their vast amounts of gold they're using to buy various services like SMGY scouting
>>583773567tank shaman copium
>>583772151But my pun name doesn't work for a man
>>583773567shamans are the weakest class so they have the most potential for change
>>583773613questing is faster than dungeon spam
>>583773486>roll in a pvp server>Mr. Streamer shows up with his fully RMTed gear and kills you for his highlights pvp video because the video makes more money than the money he spent with RMT>everyone knows they are RMTing and blizzard is a corrupt company will do nothing about itnot gonna play the pvp server, simple
>>583773567Because they fucked up and didnt include the changes to enhancement in the youtube video and told people to watch the short
>>583773567they forgot to add them to the main class video
Esfand (The Paladin Guy) thinks paladins are just op and boring in forever, is this true?
>>583773797nobody can outdps a prot paladin with thorns and ret aura
>>583773797I think esfand looks like a homeless sick person and I would cross the street if he was walking towards me in the sidewalk even if it was broad daylight
>>583773797Assfat is brown and obese
>>583773869Do prot paladins get some boost on ret aura or something?Because ret aura is still an aura, meaning any tank can get thorns and ret aura.
>class abilities>changes you need to know>class abilities>changes to knowtrillion dollar company btw
Sky Elves are cool.
>>583773797I'm not gonna read what you said but I'll just foam at the mouth because you mentioned someone I don't like
>>583773171Who cares. All I know is that if they don't add ogres next this game is dead to me.
>>583774021these vidoes are shit anyway. Just reading through the talents, who hasn't done that already..
>>583774005other tanks dont have consecrate, even if you bring mages and warlocks with hellfire they still wont beat you in dps
Vanilla was a bad game.Dodge and parry literally did not work in 1.1, which is unacceptable for a game that cost one hundred and sixteen million dollars (2026 money).
>>583774164>these vidoes are shit anywayYep. The only good they did was let me know that Mutilate has its proper TBC animation (SoD didn't for some reason) and Wrack uses the Wrath Drain Life graphic but red. All I needed to know.
>>583773797i cant watch that guy. he just looks gross. he makes me ashamed to be a gamer. we have to be better humans.
>>583774352TRUTH APOCALYPSE
>>583772309I want to tank so was hoping for tank shamans for that exact reason. Already played Druid and I'm not a huge fan. I'd still play warrior even if they have shit dps because I enjoy the gameplay but I don't want to be a target dummy in PvP, and they really aren't getting any new toys in Forever unlike every other class. Paladins are gay.I might just go mage and say fuck tanking, at least ai'll be able to farm and PvP.
Why is the UD area so dense in quests? I'm level 15 now and still haven't left the starting area
>Seal Fate: No longer requires Cold Blood as a pre-requisite. Note that Mutilate will trigger this exactly once if either or both hands generates a critical strike.It's over mutibros.
>>583774474>nooo why cant i get 4 combo points per mutilate
>>583774005mobs swing infinity times and ret aura procs even for blocks/parries i believe. also ret talent to make consc cost 50% less mana along with new scaling makes prot paladin overall extremely busted aoe damage
>>583774448I really don't get why they don't at lease give warriors charge in combat. I think that would at least mitigate some of the rage problems and help in pvp.
>horde players have trannies>alliance players have literally the worst players I've ever seen in my life and are deathly afraid of pvp even though they are on the pvp serverGod why are they both so shit?
why does assassination seem slept on by the community, looking at all the talents it seems like its going to be really strong and also mandatory with the Occult Poison quickly applying it on bosses. seems kino
This general only got active because people thought this was going to be vanillaNow look at the state of itIndistinguishable from /wowg/, posters and allAnd just as deadWell done
>>583774634If bloodelves were never added to the horde back in tbc the horde would still be real men only
>>583774474Mutilate was never supposed to give up to 4 CP.
>>583774713everyone is playing aion 2 bro, they might come back in november
>>583774557Right, so it's not really about the thorns and ret aura (since anyone can stand next to a paladin and get the aura and get thorns from a druid), it's because prot paladin damage is higher on its own.
>>583774352The only thing you've ever made in your life is a sock with cum in it
>>583774678Assassination actually requires skill, which is why everybody flocks to Combat instead.
>>583774713Yes yes we know, having more than two viable specs at end game is retail, you can go to sleep now.
Me? Leveling to 60 and then offering dungeon quest boosts, I wont complete any of the quests so I will be able to share all of them.
>>583774910Mutilate is brain dead. I know, because I'm shit at PvE as a Rogue and it was both easier and I did more DPS.
>>583774678they need to remove the poison animation from rogues
>>583774904as a foreskin haver i can cum in my foreskin and reabsorb the cum
I wish Blizzard didn't tell people that they're supposed to talk at campfires. It's perfect for getting something to drink and stretch and then it always looks like I'm ignoring people but I'm not even at my PC.
>>583774976Assassination requires positioning, that alone makes it 100% more involved than Combat.
>>583774875and without a paladin and druid and no consc every other tank has less aoe now by far
Darkshore is pure S O V Land Sky Elves are cool.
>>583774678rogue discord is saying that assassination looks good... either 21/x/x or 30/21/0but venom is a dps loss over the other options
>>583775007>not just recycling it like a normal human
>>583775139truth nuke
>>583775080combat daggers requires more positioning than assassination (but you need to be behind to avoid parries anyway)
>>583775268>standing behind the enemyalready better than 90% of the players you'll see in forever for the first few months.
Any straight men here going dwarf shaman?
>>583775139Ah yes... A monochromatic grey beach with nothing on it but trash and fog. Very cinematic.
>>583774678They're not adding occult poison.
>>583775402yes
>>583775406at least the male skelf poster actually plays the game
>>583775406this but unironically
>>583775406you just dont get it
I fucking hated this mechanic in TBC and they are introducing it here. It's over for me.
This is starting to feel like more and more just wrath design but in vanilla.
Any hunter alliance side want to team up for Uldaman quests? This shit is pure cancer
>>583775749I understand your frustration.
I'm not gonna play, this game is shit, but if I play I'll be undead pala which means someone will have to play druid and thorns me, you have been warned
>>583775764could be worse, as long as they don't do equally shit writing
>>583775915>3min cdbrootal
>>583775749just play shockadin
>>583775165Venom could definitely use a buff. You're forced to use deadly poison, application % does pretty much nothing for it so you just increase it's damage by 30% (20 dps). For instant poison, you have a 1.8 speed dagger or something, with snd that's 1.38, 1 muti every 6 seconds and you're doing 0.9 attacks a second. Calculate the stuff etc etc we end up with 42 dps assuming 100% hit chance, so in reality you can take like 10% off of that or more.60 dps is not much for a finisher.
>>583776127>You're forced to use deadly poisonbecause its significantly better than instant? application percentage keeps it from falling off
>>583775749It doesn't work anything like actual seal twisting.
>>583776013I hope it is viable and competitive otherwise you are just griefing your raid
>>583776253paladin is not competitive dps, its a hybrid
>>583776343every spec will be within 10% of the top spec, retard
>>583776343I mean compared to twist of faith.
>>583776380That's not competitive
Keep yer feet on the ground
>>583776343pure dps are only 5% better on patchwerk style fights which is nothingevery fight in forever will have movement or target switching, rogues are done for
dps? play rogue, the dev said it himself
Do any of you actually play the fucking game?>no groups>no dungeons>no guilds>barely any screenshotsI refuse to believe even more than like 10 posters here are playing the beta right now and most of those probably left a few weeks ago.
>>583776169>because its significantly better than instant?The point was that venom has a bigger impact on instant due to additional application giving it a 33% (50% without improved poison) increase in damage. Deadly doesn't benefit from the application to a similar degree, because an application at full stacks does nothing if it's not in danger of falling off (and it shouldn't be). Hence the only real benefit comes when you're building the stacks.One solution to this is wotlk deadly poison, that causes a proc at 5 stacks cause a proc of your other weapon's poison instead.
>>583776381going to be hell to gear for it so I doubt>>583776380nope, dps paladins are supposed to off heal and cleanse, give freedoms and bopsyou should be below the tank in dps
>>583776457maybe if they sent me an opt in code I would play the game
>>583776457no one is going to play this retarded shit beta, I'm playing aion 2 not pooever streamers RMT extravaganza
If gnomes are so smart why did they lose against Troggs, give their own people AIDS and are now unable to take back their city?
>>583772387>>583776457do you? theres barely anyone dungeoning for a cross region beta.
>>583776457Playing beta is a complete waste of time, I'll play on release
>>583776457Anon, the game hasn't released yet... do you mean the janny tester work? Have you started your shift yet? Your pay will come at the end of the month, I'm sure...
>>583776473They should make it that while Venom is active, Deadly Poison, at max stacks, deals instant poison damage when it procs.
I refunded my pre-order seeing the dev are not saying anything about reverting the dungeon xp nerf.I don’t enjoy exploring and questing. I booked a week off at launch for this. I planned to have 3 subscriptions as warlock summon was going to be one of my source of income. I already planned the character names, profession arrangements and even alt character order.But if dungeon leveling is not viable, I may simply skip wow forever. It’s unfortunate as I was looking forward to it. I levelled with dungeon in vanilla (along with grinding) and in classic. It’s the only way of levelling I’d enjoy, as somebody who exclusively plays tank and heal only.I’d gladly repurchase if they tune it back before launch.And to those who hate the xp nerf-- perhaps voting with your wallet is a better way to sway their decision. Yes I lost my beta access but it’s for a good cause.
>>583776509Yeah so I'm considering just not maining a paladin on release. I have no idea what class I want to play anymore. I wanted to play melee but all the melee classes seem to have issues either the class itself or things that don't sit well with me.
>>583776629cya
>>583776629>reddit spacing
>>583776457still waiting for opt-in, surely they will be sent soon
>>583776629>I don’t enjoy exploring and questingThen stay the fuck away from Classic/Forever.
>>583776629>refunded my pre-order because of something they announced before pre-ordering was availablejust play the game
>>583776536What's the point?They removed the blue quest rewards so all the gear is worse than the vendor price crafted boes put up on the AH. XP is also bad compared to efficient questing so the only thing that you might get out of it is a random boss drop.
>>583776665warrior or rogue
>>583776629excellent bait
>>583776457I hit 22 but theres no point in playing the beta anymore. I looked at the new visuals, I messed with my class, set up my ui / add-ons and tried it on my steam deck. I'm not going to burn out min maxing a level 30 beta.
>>583776457i'm probably like one of 30 people who paypigged and im too busy playing to shitpost here 24/7 with jeets constantly crying about how evil and bad it is.it's great and I want to save most of it to experience on nov. 4 with everybody else.15$ not buying the elf.
are there any anons who want to have a duelthe loser tops
>>583776457stopped playing at lvl 20
>>583776457>Do any of you actually play the fucking game?Trying out prot warrior right now.
>>583776949yeah, this game is pure diarrhea, not gonna play this shit, blizzard has no idea what they are doing and is gonna flop in a very humiliating way almost concord level of incompetency going on
>>583776624Yeah, that would be a simple solution. Although it would also mean that you switch from instant/deadly to deadly/deadly, but I don't see this as a problem really.
>>583777040we're not playing retail
>>583776457I got my shaman to lvl 30 recently in the beta (Horde) but I don't post much on this thread cause WoW related threads are always filled with tourists who haven't touched any version of WoW the past decade or so. Gonna play again when they give us the legacy points and maybe try out dalaran dungeon when that is out.
>>583776812Dungeon quests alone wont carry you to 60, and they already doubled down by nerfing the quest xp. It also takes time to do the quest chains and gather most dungeon quests. It seems stronger now because there's a lot of lower level dungeons.
hello friends. i'm starting a raiding guild. horde. 20m, raid times TBD. no i will not buy an ad.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/53SAJSDjV
>>583776949Is this supposed to be revelatory? I think everyone who has ever played wow has had a friend help them out to complete a quest and obviously you get full exp.I suppose classic players are friendless autists who need to pay for help
>>583777232What is your trans / furry policy?
>>583777285A complimentary rope will be provided.
>>583777341Sounds like you're recruiting in the wrong place
>>583776812>>583776949lmao get fucked tranny
>>583776949Is this guy fucking retarded? When people say boosting they mean the actual vanilla way of boosting where you go in a group with a 60 mage and he clears sm/zf/maraudon for you over and over and over again. Dungeons quests can only be done once and they're a definitely a lot worse exp compared to multiple runs of a dungeon, also It's a lot more walk time for both parties if they need to continue hoping dungeons to complete different quests and this doesn't even take into account you need to do quests for a lot of the dungeon quests. Ahmpy is just mad he can't farm gold by carrying since he was a massive advocate of GDKP.
>>583777232Sorry but we all already have our Forever home.
>>583777232>remigrationwhy are you paying money to a company led by an indian who reports to an indian ceo
>>583776949>>583776812You missed your chance to escape the wage cage, alex.
>>583776457>middle of the week>NA is asleep>EU is at work/school (browns don't play WoW)What do you expect, retard.
>al*x bannedmods=gods
I found the Dwarven Masons.
>>583777442they have to go back>>583777435disgusting>>583777341yes
Cant decide if I want to go Druid tanking or Warrior. Something tells me I will like Warriors tankiness and AoE aggro more than Druid. But I will miss all the other shit Druid has. Healing, open world stealth memes, travel forms, etc. What do?
mfs will call themselves "remigration" or "fascist' while giving money to an indian company
>>583777569hate how huge they made everyones shoulders
>>583776452There is seriously going to be so many retarded faggots rolling rogue now because of this.
>>583777637do not play warrior on a pvp server
>>583777637I'm playing druid so you should play warrior.
what new druid form will they add in forever
Skyelves make perfect sense btw
>>583777634>>583777734weak
>>583777853Snek. I want a bug form, big beetle tank.
https://youtu.be/fyF3q-HufD4OH NO NO NO NO>>583773278Based
>>583778035who cares? wow is a solo game until you reach 60 and join a guild and thats all that matters
watching the m*ge holocaust in real time is the best part of this whole shitshow
what do we think about the new skybox
It's pretty grim that I'm actually considering mage or rogue just to be contrairian. All of the fun classes are going to be so over populated
>>583778127warlock is fun and it's going to be the least popular class
>>583778127I was a ret main in classic and anniversary, now everyone is gonna think im some fotm faggot
>>583778127>>583778569who cares what people think! play what ya enjoy for Pizza's sake.
>>583778569You were always special.
>>583778127rogues are going to be the top 1 best dps in the game according to the lead dev
>>583778035whyareshoulderssobig????
>>583778123fantastic
>>583775406>darkshore is greyAlways has been
THIS THREAD BELONGS TO ALEXENSUAL
>>583778779hopefully he pvps to kill olympus fags on sight
>>583778668Are you aware that this is a warcraft thread.
>>583778035>so recently mad season made a videouhh okay? not a good start to this vid
>>583778616I would like to get groups anon
cataclysm was the best version of the game and I'd play cataclysm forever over Forever
>>583778282one of my irl buds is going lock and I've played it recently in tbc, otherwise I would >>583778665and yet still no one is playing them
>>583777978how many new forms can we expecti want to see druids turning into every beast in the game
>>583778834
>>583779076gnome warrior pov
>>583778936the full game isn't even out yet. nice sped post broski
Old friend group is planning to play forever on launch:> of course we will play horde just like we did in retail from tbc until legion, classic and sod. But PVE this time because wpvp gets a bit stale after 20 years> one guy will play tauren dps warrior just as he did from tbc to sod> one guy plays feral to tank dungeons but will need all caster items for his heal 2nd spec he will never use as he always did> one guy plays paladin and will most likely heal> one guy levels as enhance shaman as he did from tbc to classicSo what class will you play to make this group of middle-aged gamers complete anon?
>>583779076These huge shoulders don't belong in classic
>>583779076>>583779101thats the classic shoulder size, its going to be twice as big in forever
>>583779127rogue the number 1 dps in the game
>>583779127mage
>>583779127I'd go alliance pvp
>>583779127smite priest
>>583778569Ret is still going to be boring and shit dps so I doubt it will be FOTM for long
>>583779313mr smite is a warrior not a priest
>>583779364She's ms smite now.
>>583779364you killed him before he got the 4th weapon
if I play, am I'm not, because the game is bad, I'll be druid because you autists are all going to play pala or warrior and solo stuff which means I'll thorns you and go afk and you'll boost me, or I'll play undead pala ret
New warlock pet when?
>>583779827
seeing how cool Rogues look while running around. Makes me want to play a Rogue.
>>583780016they have to look cool because they'll be doing a lot of graveyard runs
Teldrassil is the best starting zone.
>>583779914I wish infernals were the capstone demonology talent.
this beta is such a disaster, they are going to nerf a bunch of shit right before launch and everyone who was expecting to play something strong will get upset and might not even play anymore
>>583779827We've already got all the relevant classic demons. The only unused demons are>Tirisfal / EPL dogs>Immol'thar type dog>Satyr
>>583780086I would like double demons or meta with a CD
>>583780114>fuck over metafagsbased
>>583780114>expecting to play something strongdon't be a tranny and play what you think is cool and this isn't a problem. They've stated forever is going to be turbo casual
>>583780114>>583780176thisbut also forever isnt a re-release its a live game they will randomly fuck with the balance anyways
>>583780114which is exactly why people will quit forever >oh poo poo they nerfed my spec 2 months after i hit 60 i must reroll to maintain the #1 dps spot in my guilds logs
>>583779827Which one do you want?
>>583780114Don’t care will still play dorf hunter as per usual
Is the Azeroth Commerce Authority active yet? Seems interesting.
>>583780142demon dog could be cool but those npcs never do anything except debuff your stats
are there any other trans girlies who want to play on OCE (pve, horde)
Are the beta opt ins just a straight up lie?
I saw somebody's fan-made Suramar/Night Elf Empire 3d asset, based on existing art and 3d assets that have been in the game and the Warcraft myth forever and the first comment went:"IS THIS THE SKY ELVES FUCK BLIZZARD"Warcrafters and WoWers cannot even distinguish between the thing they say they want and the thing they say they hate. They're mindbroken, buckbroken manchild redditors reliant on Streamers, Tweeters and their fellow redditists to tell them what to believe and what to do with their lives.The moment they realize WoW4eva won't be the magical time reversal they've anguished for 20 years to come we are going to experience mass suicides since the 90's and early 2000's when boy bands broke up.
it is 100% confirmed that they will launch with the tinker class, because they need a big *new thing* after this boring ass beta spoiling everything already
>we're gonna give you sd models 3 months after release>after forever has already floppedfuck this nigger shit
I hate having to press Hunters Mark. It’s such an unsatisfying ability. The shit should be baked into arcane shot or something
>>583780542Maybe post the thing?
>>583780585it's insane, they are always pretending they have like 3 people working on the game when they have thousands
>>583780562>tinkerwe all know the first new class is Warden who has 3 tank trees
>>583780620at the very least it shouldnt be on the gcd
>>583780653they have been teasing tinker a lot, I'm 100% sure it'll be here at launch
>>583780562>>583780653but i want to play dk, frost dk
Why did they remove certain applied party/raid wide buffs like shadow weaving only making them work for the caster?
I don't care about nostalgia. I want HD models and classic gameplay.As we move along in the beta, one thing is becoming apparent: classic Andys are loud, and they are dominating the conversation. Given that, I thought it would be good to remind Blizzard that they don't speak for all of us.I have played WoW almost continuously since January 2005, and I agree with a lot of the sentiments shared here and about the direction the modern game has gone. While it has its strengths, and is fun in its own way, I am very much looking forward to playing Forever with its focus on vanilla gameplay. I can't wait to be in a WoW game with new zones to explore..However, I already played vanilla - 20 years ago! While I have fond memories, I don't miss the blocky SD character models, poorly designed quests, unoptimized gear, and same old zones. Like many players, I enjoy the HD models for PCs and NPCs alike, and I am very much looking forward to the dungeons, outdoor zones, raids, and PVP progression system.So this is my request of the Blizzard devs: While you are carefully listening to the classic purists who insist that everything must be as close as possible to the original game, don't forget the rest of us, who actually enjoy new things. I am here for a classic vibe with HD character models. I would VERY MUCH like to also have the option to see HD models of all the old NPCs, as well, so please consider adding a fully HD toggle to the game, allowing all players to mix & match for themselves.I played the old game back when it was the new game. I liked it 20 years ago when I had a 480p CRT monitor, and now that I have a modern flatscreen, I like the new art more. In the same way that classic enjoyers get to have an entirely SD experience because they are loud and persistent, I would like to have a fully HD experience when it comes to the look and feel of the character models in the game.Blizzard - while you're catering to the classic purists, don't forget the rest of us.
>>583780562Once again wasting their fucking time with this shit I swear to god.
>>583780746TSAR BOMBA TRVKE
>>583780620It was baked into something at one point, but they removed it since you don't always want the mark on the thing you're currently targeting.On previous retail PTR, they even experimented with being able to mark multiple targets, but they were so afraid of allowing AoE mark (with Flare, for example, which has 0 use in PvE) and spending 5 globals doing nothing but marking felt like shit, so they ultimately scrapped it and left it as it was.
>>583780720Should have removed Engineering if that is the case. Stupid profession anyway.
>>583780746SD graphics have soul.HD do not.Nu blizz is unable to make new thing with soul.We've seen this over and over.The only hope is they kick out all the anti-AI luddites, train AI on the old stuff and have it shit out all out.
>>583780746>"classic plus">don't forget the rest of us.It's called retoilet.
can someone explain to me why pristine leather is so expensive? is it a beta thing?
>>583780901what the fuck is that
>>583780791they should optimize the shitty game and do literally nothing else. if streamerman with a $15,000 computer gets 23fps framedrops in redridge, your game is just dogshit.
>>583780901
>>583780884>>583780913go back to era
>>583780901hes so sad... :(
>>583780952Go back to retail.
>>583780938the juggernaut bitch
>>583780989>Go back to retail.yes. but i'll also stay on forever.
>>583781034No one wants your goyim plus and cata zones because it's already live on retail.
Imagine if you reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep today
>>583780901Tard helmet for widdle bwownies
>>583780720>>583780879I'd rather have tinker locked into using the engineering profession and have abilities that require/boost engineering items and trinkets.I know it's never gonna happen but I think it would be neat to have a class that's tied to a profession.
>>583780636If anybody looks at these assets and their first thought it "SKELVES SKELVES SKELVES NO NO NO" instead of the million other lore explanations, they're a retard.Furthermore, it actually implies the unthinkable in that Blizzard *did* do something right for once, and that Skelves are perfectly lore accurate when Classic Andies see ancestral Nightelf architecture and immediately think of Shen'dorei.
>>583781228Do you get paid in hrt doses to gargle Blizzard's balls?
>>583780901>this is your shaman today
>>583780073it's kino as fuck but for leveling it's actually the worst.
>>583780114good
>>583781293You're a disingenious fucking cuckold
>>583781393But the only guy ahead of me in classic after level 11 was another nelf.
>>583781439>disingeniousSaar?But yes, I was disingenuous because I know you're doing it for free
>>583781534uh oh jeet meltyhe's in every wow thread crying about blizzard
>>583780901if someone shows up to my party wearing this tard helmet hes getting the boot
Im going to play a pretty girl with slutmog and flirt with every other pretty girl with slutmog and no one can stop me
>>583781610>uh oh jeet meltyYes, that is what you're doing
>>583780938Gear scaling on dwarfs ain't working right. Shoulders too are fucked up.
>>583781730*toggles off trannymog*jeezas ure ugly
>>583781730even if you're doing this 'ironically' it's pretty pathetic mate. What do you think your parents would feel about this post?
>>583772298>dumb cunt discovers asian currencies
>>583781771why is this happening?
>>583781852they're using AI
>>583781852The shit retoilet models being used as a base.
>>583781852I blame the hd models
>>583781852Blizzard lost all their actual talent years ago.
>>583781817what kind of weak beta bitch cares about what other people think?
>>583781852Spaghetti code on top of retail code.
>>583776536>>583776818yeah guys barely anyoneit's sooooo dead that there are 50+ (that's all I can see on /who) of any class I choose in WC for any level from 16-20the xp is still massive btw, doing a dungeon quest run is easily faster than questing at least for the non-dogshit ones
>>583781963i guess this makes nublizzard the most alpha thing in existence
>>583781896>>583781984not rly, retardsit's simply retail model rigging, there's no code or new assets involved
>>583781984keep yet feet on the ground
>>583781984>impyling forever is spaghetti codevanilla had a hardcoded 20 class:faction limit
>>583781852it's the retail helm model for dwarves. Never noticed they apparently got fatter heads in wod
>>583781963dont be transphobic
>>583782084hardcoded limits are fine and they are not spaghetti code, larpy
>>583782087
>>583782087Exactly. The retail shit auto scales the gear, but they used to do it manually for each race and new armor model.
>>583782134its not when it took them 4 years to undo
>>583782180>it took retaildevs 4 years to do something ai can do in 4 seconds
i want to go undead pally because i usually go alliance, but i'm worried that the horde is going to get the short end of the stick like they always do. extra boats + dalaran for the alliance, horde get what exactly?how are you feeling about this?
<-------------- fun haver
Dwarf bros, how are we doing?
>>583772387Yes, and I'm checking with the TANK MANDIGO KKKABAL we've decided the baseline gold per run, after the nerfs, is 10g
>>583782346currently we are hydrocephalic
horde is unironically the pick for both pve and pvp. Their racials are just straight up better.Nerfing eureka from 50% to 10% is crazy
>>583782346see >>583782341
>>583772492Retoilet M+ fixes this, aerm, ACKSHUALLY!!Please give me anything for 5 man content at end game.
>>583782174>The retail shit auto scales the gearThere's no "autoscale" you retard. It's all set numbers and also that helmet model is a clear example of how they just straight replaced the model so it would fit not "fat head" but the beard.
>>583782476Sorry, autorigs because that's how retail works for old armor that is still fucked up after 12 years.
It just hit me. How the fuck are you supposed to level low level hunter pets now with the dungeon xp changes??
>>583782568in the open world?
>>583782568spec survival and grind max level mobs in melee
>>583782568Play the game.
>>583782346Debating between Rogue and Warrior for my Forever Main
>>583782568literally just play the game
>>583782604>>583782624have you ever actually tried to level up a low level hunter pet in the open world. It's fucked and easily takes days of pain
>aaaaaa don't make me do stuff
>>583782568What's the use case for this?
>>583779914Holy fuck sex
If I don't plan on joining a guild and want to play solo mainly is retail more for me?
>>583782691You have forever to do it.
>>583782860the other way aroundretail is pug hell
>>583782860depends what your goals are
>>583782860No, retail is all about funneling you to end game where you can enjoy the currently popular maze, which is usually group content. You can play vanilla/forever almost entirely solo you're just never going to do any raids or dungeons but even pugging is much easier than classic.
>>583782860retail is for no one
>>583782956you can solo a lot of dungeons tho
>>583782796
What's stopping a warlock from summoning a succubus and sexxing it all day?
>>583782796what happened in 2010
what are the chad classeswhat are the cringe classes
>>583783273Wrath of the Lich King.
>>583783273i still had hair
world of poocraft is a prison, not a video game, it makes and made the lives of countless peuop,e worse buy simply existing
>>583783390What made your life crap?
>>583783273Cata, WotLK was 2008
>>583782796oh boy the forever crash is going to be. as the readdiots say, >le epic
>peuop,e
>>583783179pg-13
>>583783273Cataclysm.
>>583782768if you're not a minmax troon you may want a cool pet. Once i wanted the black deviate pet (level 18) from wc when I was level 40 something. Leveling it up was terrible in the world because you basically don't have a pet. Previously you could just run dungeons and it would get a level or so each one, now you can't even do that so expect it to take literal 10 hours to get a low level pet to 60
>>583782796What is the graph for? Google searches?
>>583783390but in the end when you've lost everything it's all you have left
>>583780720That's total bullshit. That being said, besides Gnomes, what races would have the class?
>>583777232>triple digit membersWhere else are you recruiting from?
>>583778035I like the style of the video but can't confirm what he says. There were a couple of players I met already like 5+ times and he says he never saw anyone a third time?Nah he straight up cappin
>>583782796>we are going to launch a new fomobait doomed to die in 3 months game mode, THE chart
>>583783541Goblins, which is why Tinkers and Goblins will come together, eventually. Not at launch but Goblins are the only NPC race that has the updated HD models.It'll likely coincide with TLT next year and be the second pack that fuels Forever's coffers.
>>583783561Oh yeah and also I met people again that I grouped up with (indicated by a brighter blue color), which is also something he says never happened
Nobody on 4chan actually enjoys World of Warcraft.
>>583783541gnomes and trolls of course!
>>583783651nobody is debating that
>>583783651i enjoy world of warcraft
>>583783636Forever has some kind of sbmm which keeps players in your layer
>>583783651True World of Warcraft Vanilla is outdated and we're glad to have something better now
>>583783651I do!!!!!!
i hate that the horde cities suck so much dick.org has a good layout but looks like shit. undercity is an actual sewer. TB is in the middle of nowhere and feels empty always.stormwind is perfect. ironforge is perfect. whatever the night elf city is sucks dick and i hate it. but still, two really good ones.
You just know the lag is going to be out of this world, just imagine everyone trying to log on to one of these mega servers. I will honestly be impressed if they manage to get the servers running in the fist 3 days.
>>583783628>TLTThe what
>>583783845>org has a good layoutwutit's terrible
>>583783753Tauren players are such fucking Redditors. The dwarves of the Horde
>>583783845stormwind and org are kind of annoying actually i hate turning in quests and training in those citiesundercity also has some annoying quest turn ins
>>583783845Keep Darnassus and its superiority out of your filthy mouth, whore.
>>583781110I do, I also use HD models because I'm not autistic and plan on playing this because it's NOT classic, it's retail without flying mounts to me
>>583783902stay salty bonyboy
>>583783951Go fuck yourself
the layering thing si so so so so bad oin pvp servers, youa are always going to have some nerd trying to kill you because of it, it is such an oversight, the layering system is really bad for the game
>>583783951>I doNot my problem.
>>583783849Will there be queues for mobs again like on classic release or will we all just chaotically try to be the one who tags them?
is it viable to test classes on the free retail trial to decide what to play on forever launch or are the vibes and archetypes too different between versions?I don't care about balancing, spells or any other details, just the general feel of classes.
>>583783895i dunno. bank and AH are fast enough to get to. flight point is right there too. and i'm not that upset about going out to the profession trainers when i have to. but you mostly live in the that front area and it's easy enough to get around. it just looks like a ghetto.>>583783946nelf city sucks and the music sucks too. easily the worst of them all. i don't know how they fumbled it so hard.
>>583783651even me?
>>583784038retail is entirely differentyou are better off testing things on era
>>583784038people are going to tell you no, but the answer is yes.they're going to be different in actual mechanical playstyle but they'll smell similar. if you don't like standing and casting as a mage in retail, you probably wont like it in classic either.
>>583783651well, duh, of course, wow is a date dgame and should have been had it's sequel a long ago, but blizzar dis creatively bankrupt so they can only milk what the past employers did instead of making something becuas enthey know it wouldbea disaster
>>583783902tauren and dwarves are cool and you're a fag
>>583783985Cope and seethe about it, go back to era if it's so great (you won't because it's not)
im playing era rn(right now)i didnt buy the beta
>>583783902>if you're not a speedrunning tranny you're a redditorok. Real men enjoy being a minotaur or a dwarf
>>583784197Oh yeah? If era is so bad, then how do you explain the 16 000 people worldwide playing it? Hmm?
>>583783902Taurens are bro tier.Female tauren are mom tier.
every time kungen talks about his wifey i think about a large breasted blonde woman with a mouth full of cum..
>>583784197>throne of four winds boss threatens you at level 10>spawns 2 mobs>does a 360 and walks awayThis is what retoilets actually think is good zone design.
>>583784045It appears your wanting ability of reading comprehension has failed my expectations the first time, so I shall repeat myself once more: keep Darnassus and it's superior inhabitants out of your whore mouth.
Classes I want>fist fighterNo not some monk bullshit just a class that punches very strong, maybe kicks a bit as well but fists are the focus>cowboyCowboy aesthetic and uses revolvers. Gets buffs when drunk>tinkerThe mecha class from the survey sounds really cool>necromancerAlso from the survey and cool
Is Forever Swifty's last chance of getting out of the food delivery business?
>>583784314Whomst is thou quoting?
>>583784351I wanna bite her toes and lick them and just worship her feet
>>583784401>I don't miss the blocky SD character models, poorly designed quests(You), nigger.
>>583784374Swifty is something you want to know is out there in the world but it's better if you never see it, like your reflection in a mirror
>>583784351bitch needs a pedicure
>>583784442>poorly designed quests>missing poorly designed questsYou people are beyond help
>>583784504Which I'll provide with my mouth
>>583784534dammit another fetish i didn't know i had..
Not having Goblins is killing the game
>>583784357I want bard
>>583784301Kungen is more of a creampie kind of guy I reckonHe's just based like that
>>583784374Does he really economically depend on the food deliveries? I thought it was a le streamer challenge
>>583784526>level 87 or 88 Rakeesh doesn't just 1 shot you, the hecking hero at level 10>not a poorly designed quest
ARRRGGHHGHG RELEASE THE GAME ALREADY I JUST WANT TO PLAY AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DO AA AAAARGRGGGGAAASSSSSHHTTTTTTTTTT
Why do you assume Kungen's wife is hot?
>>583784637Actually you're level like 82
>>583784632Yes, his streams get 300 views tops. His wife is sick with something bad and he needs a lot of money
>>583784601Oh no anon me too, I completely forgot about bard
>>583784607i was making an esoteric reference to ancient war on terror era pornography, but i agree with you. buddy bubbles up in that bush
>>583784670she's not, she's probably very fat and smells bad, he is ugly and less than middle income guy
>>583784683oh...
>>583784357I want a Sea Witch
>>583784674You're like a level 10-14 blelf, actually.
>>583784683it's so cool that all of the millionaire streamers know and respect him but kind of just pretend he doesn't exist too
>>583784683Damn, I don't really follow streamers I assumed he had a big following as one of the original wow guys.
I fucking hate the hype cycle that comes with new releases.>look for a gameplay video to get an idea of the class changes>"OMG Blizzard did THIS?">"streamer reacts to some bullshit">Guide to content that isn't even in the game yet>tierlists when classes arr getting changed every week and the levelcap is 30
>>583784830it's tough..
>>583784782>>583784830Well there's just no edge to him whatsoever. He's boring as fuck, just a kind guy doing nothing interesting. He's only floating on his videos from 20 years ago
>>583784845I can't think of a game that has a more useless circle of "content creators" that shit out the lowest effort garbage possible. All good info is concentrated in insular class discords.
>>583784930if pandas were added to forever i think swifty would get a bigger follower
A Pirate Class, Sailing profession, and Sailing additions to existing professions which comes with a crew and ship system with procedural islands to loot or PvP on.
So, what class is gonna win the 1v1 duel?
>>583784930That little pinky nub is working overtime on the razer nigga.
>>583784683Why doesn't he just get a real job instead of hoping that other man children pay to watch him play video games all day?
>>583784936So is Savix, I don't understand how he gets the audience he's got.
>>583785134priest
>They do a deep dive on Rogue and go into detail about all its talentsIsn't it supposed to be getting a massive rework within the next week?
>>583784845I don't watch streamers so this has never been an issue for me, sounds like you are willingly consuming slop and crying about it
>>583785193How so?
>>583785164because he can barely spell words anon.. he probably makes just slightly more than the minimum wage job he's qualified for right now.
Sometimes when I'm playing a rogue and I see someone dieing to mobs, I'll wait until the last second to save them, to make me helping them seem even more heroic.
>>583785194you faggots say this about every class, nothing is getting a rework what you see is what you get if reworks were coming they would say so
all these funserver changes and still no tauren rogue
>>583784683300 is actually pretty respectable. The vast majority of streamers stream to 0 people.
>>583785228really good dueling class and even better at low lvls
>>583785239>pandashit>anything above FL O L
>>583785231NTA, but the second you look up anything to do with WoW your algorithm gets corrupted by all this faggotry.>>583785248Nigger they said it was getting reworked in the podcast, they even spoke about how it's getting a china talent from the titanforged servers
>>583785289Class design was peakRaids were great
>>583785335I loved exploring the world. Each zone was comfy in its own way.
>>583785239Cataclysm was S tier. It was genuinely the coolest shit ever when you got into the game and the world was completely destroyed.
>>583785335>Class design was peakBig ups to the Warlock class dev in MoP who had so much passion and love for the class that he got fired for caring too much.
>>583785174christian goodguy fanbase doesn't need the edge. savix's whole appeal is being wholesome.
>>583785239ive played all versions of wow and coming to terms that wotlk was the most dog shit version of the game was difficult rehashed nax, ulduar being the only decent raidanubarak cucked liked illidan and kael and vashjlich king doing literally nothingthe trial all the cut contenthorriblei liked the zones and music, thats about it
>>583785212>I don't watch streamersThis shit is happening on youtube and it makes it impossible to find "normal" wow videos.I don't watch streamers either and I don't get the appeal.
ive still yet to do rfk, sm and gnomer but i keep getting distracted by pvp when i log on and just do that for 2-3h and log. its very fun at certain spots (esp the lift). i did the wetlands dungeon once and it might be my least fav ever made in wow. wtf its so cheap and short, never going there again thats a classic one and done.
>>583783541Definitely dwarves, they build stuff like guns and tanks. Humans because why not. Orcs went from building mudhuts to building tons of mechanical shit under Garrosh
>>583785430But so is Swifty.The only difference is Savix is younger and a chink, which makes zoomers soiface regardless of how boring he is.
>>583785134If priest is able to sustain through hunters croc mortal strike, then priest wins. If they cannot, then a hunter wins.
>>583785474I really don't get what you expect out of "wow videos" in the first place just watch normal non wow stuff why are you specifically looking for slop?
>>583785509all new dungeons have been extremely underwhelming so far
>>583783345>chadwarlock>cringehunter
Cataclysm had fun gameplay. All classes felt fun and complete. But the expansion is the definition of a filler one. Like the first one we get without a bran new continent or planet like Outland or Northrend. The first expansion without Warcraft 3 to it. It was at best mediocre in lore. And considering it revamped the world with tons of broken funky ass quests that barely worked we cannot rate it S tier. No way. I like it myself. But it cannot be considered S tier. In many ways it's literally just less refined MoP without a new continent
>>583785289I don't understand why people have such a visceral reaction to them doing a chinese theme or whatever. We had egyptian and viking nonsense before but most people who hate on mop literally never played it simply because they thought pandas were lame.
>>583785445all of the new spells added in wotlk were a hit
now that wow forever is dead, what's next? wow remake? wow remaster? wow 2?
>>583785552yes savix is looking zesty and swifty is looking like a subway assistant manager, it's tough
>>583785650we wait for ai to make wow but good
can we talk about something else kupo
>>583785742let's talk about gnome breasts
>>583785609because it was legitimately annoying as shit>AH HERRO ADVENTURER YOU EAT BIG NOODLE AND FIGHT BUG MAN NOW OKAY"
>>583785552I got recommended a Savix video once, he's really offputting like he puts on a face of being a good guy.
>>583785742Let's talk about how hyped we are for GTA then. Me personally I'm extremely hyped and will take a week off from work for it. Gonna be kino lads.
>>583783541Dwarf and GnomeOrc and GoblinBefore you go questioning Orcs, they are surprisingly adept at technology when taught how to control and manufacture it. Throughout all of WoD they are building and using tons of insane machinery just from Garrosh showing them some Goblin tech.
>>583785841I've never been more uninterested in something everyone is interested in. Feeling my years
>>583785584for me its ruins > powergap > hot > excavation ruins was really cool imo, the other two lack alot
Blizzard has added a lot of good stuff in forever. But holy shit, all the existing vanilla systems they've changed have been fucking awful.
How long until they let us goon to gobl... play goblins
>>583785806It wasn't even that different considering most of the lore in pandaria is about old gods/titans and trolls, stuff we were already familiar with.
>>583785912the orcs in outland seem about as able as dwarves tbqh
>>583785947>added a lot of good stuffYeah like... uh... uhhhh.......
>>583785584I know some people will seethe but the later dungeons added in the latest expansion of Turtle (the early ones because they're shit) mog the Forever ones, aside from the fact that they had an excessive amount of trash mobs. I really wish they could just steal them.
>>583786012>old gods/titansSo the worst parts of the lore
>>583786042bro dual talents are soooo evil #nochanges#notmyvanilla#fuckyou
>>583786079literally every expansions features them except for tbc
>>583786001>How long until they let us goon to gobl... play goblinsNext 2 races will be gobbos and draebaestrust Ogre fags will seethe
>>583785912Those zuggers built tanks, giant robots, and a fully functional railroad system. They 100% deserve tinker.
>>583785932ruins was the best for sure but there were a lot of "retail" models that bothered me. I also don't really like outdoor dungeons
>>583785609It doesn't fit at all. WoW is one of the few games that has NOTHING asian. there is no weeb. There is no China. Fuck, there's nothing but European and random savages for the hordeThe pandas were funny easter eggs in Warcraft III and Blizz turned it into marketing for China
>>583786184and it always sucks
Why do troons want goblins so bad? They don't look like their art they look like deformed troonshit
you dont understandwe need this in foreverthe wandering isle calls
>>583783541yeah as the others saidDwarves, Gnomes, Orcs, Goblins.
>>583786281I think goblins are cool and i'm a metafag so i'm hoping forever will give them good racials
>>583785164He's literally streaming his real job now? This whole discussion is because he got a real job. Are you retarded? Be honest
>>583786281>posts lust-provoking image that contradicts his post
>>583786281It's because they literally look like troons. I don't remember ever seeing a female Goblin before Cata
>>583786294
>>583786373>food delivery>real job
>mfw swifty wins the streamerbowl
>>583786245Blade Masters, also Chen Stormstout is a lot more than just an easter egg, was Rexxar an easter egg too? Also just before that we had heavy egyptian stuff in Uldum and in wrath we had an entirely new race introduced that was just vikings.
>>583786439fat people are so disgustingcant even tell if they're a man or woman
>>583783628>Goblins are the only NPC race that has the updated HD modelsIs this something datamined or do all the gobs turn HD when toggled on?
>>583786451Food delivery is 100% a real job. You're providing a service there's a real demand for. Streaming on the other hand...
>>583786294they want as little "off azeroth" stuff, and mainly for the sake of loading screen with portals or different continents, however if we could maybe get a big ass turtle from MoP to appear somewhere off the coast near theramore or booty bay and be reachable by a boat then that could work as a mini hub for pandafags
>>583786517>cant even tell if they're a man or womananon has the gay gene
Why the fuck are EU players so dogshit? Literally no one is online and the few people that are doing things are so goddamn horrible at this game. Don't they get like 9 months off a year from work just to play this shit?
>>583786281>TROON TROON TROON TRANNY TROONshut the fuck up I want the funny little green jew
troony rage
>>583786685>worships both jews and troons
>>583786685in warcraft the demons are more in line with how jews are
>>583786641We europoors are at work now, so you're mostly meeting the unemployed.
>>583786451the guy is basically retarded i dont think theres much else he could do
>>583786810>the random developer at Blizzard seeing their backlog get even longer because some autistic fuck ass found some random helmet that looked different 25 years ago
>>583786971you're implying they actually bother to fix shit like this which they don't
>>583786971they do not have cismales working at blizzard. eww
>>583787029As someone who is actually employed, I guarantee you the workers are working constantly and always trying to meet deadlines and its just management telling them what to focus on
>>583786971There's probably 20 recolors of the same helmet in classic.
>>583786641It's 1 PM on a work day now. Well adjusted adults are at work, not playing wow
>>583787093>As someone who is actually employedwow you have a job, you do the bare minimum? so impressive, glad you added that
it's 6:30 am and I will log in to my work from home job in a two hours do five minutes of work, go back to playing and then take a nap at noon
>>583787251Why are you this angry about a joke. I get unemployement hurts but its 6:30 in the wowf general how are you this mad
I'm getting the urge to play paladin so I can tank, the shortage looks brutal
>>583787372>>583787406clock says 5:30 dumbass
TBC draenei are one of the worst additions to WOW ever and I really fucking hope they never add them here
>>583787406>wagie getting mad that he got called outcareful anon don't shit yourself before your walmart shift
>>583787416It's not a healer shortage? I can't decide between Paladin for tanking or Priest for healing. No I will not heal as Paladin the design looks like ass
How expensive are respecs?
If you call them chips instead of crisps, you are not welcome here
I AM SOFA KING BORED
>>5837875351 silver once an hour (only for the beta, normal cost on launch)
>>583786812>>583787164>gamerdads>better than the unemployed neets and "5 months vacation" fagsLol? The best guild in the world is a Europoor neet guild full of people who take their infamous "EU Holiday" to get ahead of all the Americans.
>>583787416>>583787510Im going with priest because paladins will be 30% of population and fuck raiding as melee staring at ankles
>>583787567What's the normal cost on launch?
>>583787570>the best guild in the worldwho???
>>583787629just imagine usury
>>583787629why don't you google it?
>>583786971>>583787093They won't fix it because they can't. Forever is built on the modern engine with modern skeletons. Here's how that helm looks on retail right now
>Just realized I can use a controller to fishIt's legitimately over I'm never ever going to leave the fish mines
>>583787549
>>583787671Why do you post here? You could just simulate the thread with an LLM
>>583787570nope. liquid beat them. again
>>583786810>>583787694give him a rocket launcher and a shotgun>>583787749love me some megapuss
>>583787570I guarantee you the vast majority of unemployed here are as retarded as in anywhere else.
>>583787747does it click the bobber for you on catch? if so I need to dust off my gamepad
dwarf girls :3
>>583787750no one has a pricing chart for respecing that goes down over time memorized, why don't you stop being a useless waste of space?
>>583787747There's been one button fishing since at least legion, why would you even need a controller?
>>583787747way ahead of you
>>583787886Yeah you just press one button to cast and another to real in.
>>583787963This is the comfiest setup. Plus the controller even gives you free choccy after every session!
How would you rank each races' females when it comes to smell?
>>583788053How do you cope with being a porn addicted shill?
the spirit of classic is griefingthe spirit of retail is a neutered gameplay where everything that could frustrate one player is removed
>>583788182You tell me
>>583788182shilling for what?
>>583788239>>583788247>negative conversation about wow forever>better post some autistic sexual questions!kys
>>583786810the new model looks better
>>583788345all I said was that fishing with a controller is comfy why do you even consider that negative
>>583787406>picreltoo soon
there is not a singleperson that will make a blue elf simply because they added low polygon version of it
>>583787510>It's not a healer shortage?One day it's healers, the other day it's tanks. Make a druid or paladin and you'll always find a group.
>27 days 11 hours..
>>583788496it's for people who were already going to make one and want to be able to post sd graphics to get acceptance from the spergs
>>583788496TRVKE. The complainers are just complaining for the sake of complaining.
>>583788182>>583788345why do you talk like a tinfoil sperg?
>>583773171dont care aslong they add ogres next
Dang these generals are dead already? The game hasn't even been fully released yet.
>>583788596>want to be able to post sd graphics to get acceptance from the redditorsftfy
Emergency meeting!
>>583788053smell is subjective
It do be like that thofr frdeadasshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baML7GdgHoA&list=LL&index=22
>>583774634anon alliance trannies outnumber horde ones by like 100xFemale human & nelf is the ultimate AGP race
>>583772250>i want to play as the ugly band of creatures but i want to be a cute elf aswellthe absolute state of horde
>>583788697>ogres and murloc transformation in the new deviate delight>quickly removed by the devsThey are totally coming as new races alongside murlocs and the devs had to panic fix something they where using to test the models.
>>583788496>>583788664it's for people who play sd (everyone normal) that don't want to see retail garbage you dumb niggers
>>583788580Probably going druid because restro > shockadin but man that just makes me want to go tauren so badly. Tauren druid just sitting in Thunderbluff after running around the barrens or thousand needles is peak
okay why are they blue though
>>583788961chris metzen is retarded
>>583782016>nobody over 20let me guess you took this screenshot before the level cap was increased
>>583788961they come from the sky and the sky is blue
>>583788840>good graphics badheckin' EPIC take, have an upvote!
>>583788854>mulgore, barrens, stonetalon, dessolace, thousand needles, tanaris, feralisIT'S SO FUCKING COZY
>>583788775whats aion 2 even like? how big are their booobs?
>>583788854>>583789106yeaits time for another tauren druid
>>583788053Top: Gnomes, TrollsBottom: Undead, Humans
>>583789072you are a /wowg/ subhuman troon there's nothing good about the modern wow artstyle
>>583789136It's like every other Korean MMO ever made. Asians are incapable of doing anything new.
>>583789036I took it 1 minute before I posted itthe query specifies level 20
>>583788961according to the lore books in game, they all used to be white, then over time due to "unknown reasons" more and more of them started to be born with a different skin color until the original hues were the minority... get it?
Do Dwarves have a gap in their quest progression?Sitting in Dun Morogh at 14/15 with no quests left except for elite ogres and another one marked for 18
>>583773152>discipline is just for pvp>priest are only worth it when shadowyou somehow managed to say the most retarded thing twice in a rownobody is bringing shadow for any group content and nobody is using holy for anything because you dont have power infusion
>>583783951>because it's NOT classicClassic world, classic systems, classic gameplay. Yeah, it definitely isn't classic.
>>583789295i dont recall a gap, did you do the hunters lodge in south east corner?
>>583789136convoluted retarded menu and interface system, dopamine spell effects go brrrrr. a game by insects for insects
>post main>post first altwarlockkkkprob warrior
>>583789334>PI still left as capstone talent for discAbsolute fucking retards
>>583789401Might've missed that, I'll take a look later
>>583789467i couldn't even tell you whether i'll play pvp or pve, much less what class i'll actually play..
>>583789467Prot Warrior & Enh Shaman.One for solo play the other for leveling with a friend.
>>583789272Wait so does that mean they really were high elves and not highborne? Does that mean there were high elves in eldrethalas? Did they change the prince to be a high elf too? Because if they were actually highborne it would be the other way around right?
>>583789334you're better off replacing the disc priest and one other healer with a holy priest and a real dps
>see an undead pally bro running towards me>jump as we meet>he doesnt jump backfucking nigger, fuck you
>>583789136Thank you to the majority of you absolutely ruining dungeons you make this game worth it <3Honest to god there is a large amount of the player base absolutely ruining dungeons. The devs need to completely rework it. It's a foot race to each boss and every time I'm new I play catch up, majority of the time I make it into the fight but theres consistently 1-2 people who get excluded and then they get no reward. I've been victim of this too. I'm currently doing Draupnir and couldn't keep up cause I got confused where to go. 4 people just rushed the final boss and I wasted all that time.Instead of blaming me, or saying skill issue etc please as a community do better. This braindead rush through dungeons is so terrible and the fact the devs didn't set a kill limit, or require everyone to be present or teleport behind players to boss fights is honest to god insane overlook.And yes I've tried the casual or chill group posts and there is always the few who crackhead rush.
>>583773171>some other new non-elf horde race was planned for releaseNo, it wasn't a non-elf, it was darkfallen (or sanlayn)
>>583789648>Prot Warrior & Enh Shaman.This lol.I've played enhance in every version of the game except vanilla. So I'll level that first. It'll probably be shit, but whatever. Prot warr will definitely be my second character.
Is there any advantage to taking leatherworking over engineering?
>>583789780>you're better off replacing the disc priest and one other healer with a holy priest 31/20 Disc priest has like 90% of the healing output of a holy priest. Prayer of mending is not a "smart heal" and disc might play out like its wotlk version where absorb spam was broken.
>>583789648>>583789467Prot Paladin as well and then yeah either enhance shaman or disc priest
>>583789467warrior and druid. not sure which will be my main or even which i will level first desu
>skelves look ba-
Being a gay/troon would grant you a free ticket in a asylum in my country
>>583789838They mention San'layn in their survey as a new class, essentially blood mage. It's possible they want to save certain race options, like undead elves, for later when they can introduce them alongside a new class.
>>583789295Nelf Lodge bottom right and there are quests on the bridge middle top, but overall dun morough into loch modan sucks compared to elwynn to westfall, the bonus is the hot quest is in dun morogh
>>583790129>Prayer of mending is not a "smart heal"as in it doesn't bounce to the lowest health target like it did in every other iteration of WoW? doubtfulwotlk disc was built around rapture, which doesn't exist in forever
>>583790312but that's just belf with blue eyes..
>>583790431And?
>>583789467Prot warriorMageMain and alt depends on how shit warriors are at PvP
>>583790129>disc might play out like its wotlk version where absorb spam was broken.In its current form shield is inefficient and scales badly. Penance is strong but that's it.
>>583790313This is the opposite of first world problems.Third world solutions.
>>583790312hate the colorsblonde hair is orange, pale skin has weird red hueeyes only have neon shades
>>583789467Main: WarriorAlt: ____Warrior
>>583790313While that is definitely a good thing by any measure, I assume your country has a lot more disadvantages than advantages.
>>583789467RogueMaybe warlock haven't decided
>>583790312They should have made it so alliance had to look white like this and horde had to look brown
>>583789467enh shamanprot warrior or pally, have yet to try the latter in the beta, waiting for the free legacy points to see how new characters feel with the system in place>>583789571PvE if you want netflix and chill, PvP if you want your life to be miserable at random times; my vanilla experience gave me a sour taste with Alliance sucking so much ass on my server it was unreal .. and I was a pally main, so PvE it is
>>583789467Priestnot sure yet, maybe a prot paladin to aoe farm with
Hunters might be dealing too much damage at 30
Is engineer still the go-to profession? I just picked it up and noticed there's literally no changes to it in the journeyman tree so i'm wondering if it's just neglected this time around
>>583789467I will make an orc male warlock on the RP server because my friends are thereBut simultaneously I'll roll a nelf female druid and a human female priest on the pvp server
>>583790795actually it's not that bad as long as you don't try to take on corruption or be your country's new Elon Musk, you can live a comfortable life so far.
>>583790940they have literally always been the best level 30 class but now all the fucking top dps chasing retards are going to roll them and make it overpopulated as fuck
How do I play prot warrior in forever? Especially solo.Tanking works fine but before I've only played protwar from wotlk onwards so I'm used to never even touching other stances.
>>583790882I want to like elemental shaman so badly but lava burst was such a misplace. Should have given them something new like lightning strike
>>583789467warlock hunter with herb mining
>>583771806Disgusting OP.
>>583791154>throw on trial of the crusader so the target takes extra holy damage>after the judgement you swap to the new tanking seal which gives you shields with each strike>throw out concentrationdone
>>583791154pull 4 mobs, kill, repeat
>>583791154battle shout, victory rush, revenge on cooldown, shield block on cooldown, thunderclap on cooldown, demo shout, jump frequently to look as spastic as possible
>>583791249I see so many rets that don't even bother to judge crusader.
>>583776457already got to 30 and tested all i wanted tor my launch path and since its capped to 30 i cant test any further really
>>583791249dont think warrior has those skills
>>583791418Doesn't it apply to your own this time?
>>583791571No you have to judge it
People that ask Blizzard for new classes must realize that whatever Blizzard makes for them, will always be limited by what Blizzard at the time of creating the class imagined, and those twelve unpaid interns and one overworked supervisors who's the only qualified designer will never remotely have the capacity to match the theme of the audience wants.Just give us Glyphs and customizable visual FX for spells and abilities. It will not be a disadvantage for anybody, I promise you, because PvErs don't need to see your buttons anyway, they just look at their healthbears dpsmeters, and if people really can't deal with it in instanced PvP because of "balance" then we'll just turn it off there, although I cannot imagine anybody has time to analyze spells based on their visuals in BGs and people who play arena, if it ever makes it into WoF, probably won't do it with the theatrics in mind to "play my character", they play because they wanna win.Introducing new classes is a trap, and if Blizzard does it then they *will* make it overpowered initially because it's the easiest way for people to engage with their new added content, and then they can have a pretty, snazzy graph that goes up that says "We're geniuses our new class was a total success!" and then they're going to nuke it back to hell, or it's going to completely take over another class' niche if not several of them, meaning if you picked one of those other classes now you're a No-Game Garry who doesn't get to play any of the group content unless you reroll.Swallow the Glyphpill. Embrace true freedom of self-expression, because that's literally all you really want, Anons.
>>583791524Warrior is pink now. Era of brown is over.
>>583790113Mining is going to be turbo mega giga camped, between engineering being the go to profession, all the brownies who think this will be classic again and all the new undead paladins wanting it for BS.Whereas skinning/lw will only ever be determined by if beasts are being camped, and even if they are being grinded, if the person has skinning.
>>583776457work and ace combat 8 have taken a lot of my time :(
>>583776457Waiting for release. I'm not wasting time leveling further than 20 on a beta and I tried my two classes.
>>583789467PaladinPriest
>>583789467Orc male affliction warlockOrc male assassination rogue
>>583791704>Mining is going to be turbo mega giga campedHow? Nodes respawn so fast, even mithril is plentiful.
gatherings skills are for slaves and botseverything is going to be 20% above vendor price
>>583789467RogueResto Druid or Warrior, haven't decided yet.
>>583791704Part of me wonders if they gave mining the 5% stamina to make up for how fucked its going to be to level
>>583791704Just say you didn't play the beta
You are gonna play a tauren paladin when it comes out right anon?
>>583792086never going to play a tauren
>>583792086Tauren Priest confirmed
>>583792086cute
Leveling specs are a meme
No one is playing herbalist so cerulean dye is nearly 2g a pop
i think im done with the beta. short reviewpromy class is stronge (priest)pvp is funruins of lordaeron was neatnew quests mean less travel early game, also more nodesdungeon spamming nerfednegthe other two dungeons are shit esp excavation seems to be made by some apprenticehas a bit of icky sod feel due to sleeping bag etcpowercrept items from lvl 10 onwards which make the game even more trivial than it already was (more of a hc issue)gearhungry people and me having to play with the na communityit does feel like classic easy mode just like sod did. i will most likely play on 4.11, but only seriously no life when hc comes out. once again the beta tells me hc is the only way wow is fun for me nowadays.
I farmed exalted with Magram Centaurs on the Beta.Gave me a title and an insane polearm from the quest chain!
>>583792086This was such a stupid idea.
Northrend is on the table, right?
>40% of the raid optional warriorsREEEE FUCK THIS IS BULLSHIT AHHHH I HATE WARRIORS>40% of the raid mandatory druid/shamanAh this is so fresh and good. I love it!
>>583791158tbc ele was RIGHT there
>want to go Horde>horde is overhwelmignly full of troons and faggots opposing the bald retardWill this be a PVE thing only? Or will PvP Horde also be a fucking joke
>>583792648>she doesnt know alliance is the trans faction
so is feral druid actually fun to play and level?
>>583792568>Ah this is so fresh and goodIt is, both of those things
>>583785239>vanilla S>everything else retoilet
>>583791158>>583792636WHY THE FUCK DO WE HAVE LAVA BURST I'M SO FUCKING ANNOYED
>>583792648Just avoid horde in general. Faction has been full of mentally ill freaks years before Asmongod started living in their heads rent free.
>>583792271I’m really excited and also super pessimistic. Vanilla is an easy game but it’s good because it’s tedious. Leveling seems fun and autopilot which is ironically horrible.
>>583791154As usual, you level as fury and just slap a shield when needed. Prot is to be switched to at 60 only. Dont be retarded
>>583792797>>583792636this expansion was ass but it was also peak elemental shaman>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yaD2P5sUCaA
>>583792797It's simpleresto = earth + waterenhance = earth + airele = earth + fire
>random priest buffs me>forget >realize 5 minutes later that I should have buffed him back
>>583792498Why?
>>583792891>>583792797>>583792636how hard was it for blizzard to just expand on the lightning aspect of elemental considering thats the entire spec
>>583792498every race except undead and eredar should be able to play paladin priest. undead paladins and holy priest are a stain and testament to the consistent lore killing choices blizzard has made since wc3.
>>583792972literally joker
>>583792972He probably just thought you were a streamer, which means he thinks you’re really cool
>>583792568this is why 10man raiding needs to be the standard
>>583792972priest players are submissive so they dont mind, dont worry
>>583789467holy paladinrogue
>>583792981>>583793010Because race has its own theme. A fucking tauren in golden armor sucks balls for the same reason a night elf as a paladin sucks balls.Undead gets away with it because its an inversion of it. It'd be like if you allowed the fucking night elves or tauren to be warlocks
>>583789780you cannot replace one other healer because you need shamans for all groups and ele is a fucking meme
Damn why didn’t I save those stupid Waylaid crates? Just found out they are useful
chuds lost
>>583792972So it was you...
>>58379307610 man raids are 40% mandatory shaman/druid too
>>583789467hunterwarrior
>>583793076>30% paladin>20% shaman>20% druidlovely
WoW Forever is bleeding players after every update, which is a huge problem for a game that's already struggling with retention. This is worrying.
>Darkspear Islands>Entire Horde side is all druids and shamans>Like literally 6 of each>None of them are healers
>>583793076That's suck a gay take. We need 10 man, 20 man, and 40 man, and massive fuck ass world bosses. Anything less than that is low test
>>583793278You also NEED a warrior, warlockso that leaves 1 flex spot
>>583793308Trve. We need fresh vnd fashy Asap
>>583793349For what? Brown Hybrid brings nothing.
>>583792972I dont really mindt.only plays classes that buff
>>583788053>AllianceHumans and Gnomes smell pristine. Night Elves probably have a unique musky but very enjoyable smell. Dwarfs smell like shit.>HordeEveryone smells bad but in order probably Orcs > Trolls > Tauren >>>>>>>> Undead
>Blizzard says beta key invites are going out all the time >never see any evidence anyone has ever gotten one >don’t even bother with an EU side so everyone is in a worldwide lottery I just want to set up my UI..
>>583793420bshout, dshout, sunder, tclap
>>583793107that's just a problem with the art department's lack of creativity. blood elf paladins used to have their own signature look. there's no reason they couldn't have more nature inspired armor. armor in general came from nature. you're just copying beetles.
I have a question to all the Druid nerds here. With the removal of Furor and the powershifting we know, what are you going to skill for PvP/PvE?I hate the new Shiftingpower talent since it will leave you standing with your pants down after using it twice and Berserk kinda sucks for cat only, even in PvP. I kinda wan't to see if the 5% more dmg overall through Naturalist is worth more.
>>583793308Oh no not the heckin twitch viewers.
>>583793486Honestly yeah, I'll concede that. I can see it work if it got a good design
>>583793482Damn. Immediately proven wrong. tclap might still be unique to warrior.
>>583793502I only play resto with a smattering of balance
>>583793308Good, back to retoilet trannies. Please stay in your furry containment game
>>5837935023 rightmost balance talents are better
>>583793502>I hate the new Shiftingpower talent since it will leave you standing with your pants down after using it twiceBut it has the same mana cost as cat form
>>583793573the 20% attack speed reduction is essentially a 20% damage reductionmost people don't realize how fucking insane that is. With defensive stance as well warriors just start with a flat 30% damage reduction
>>583793746It’s more like 17%.
>>583793502Feral is meant for tanking. Still don’t think cat form is a viable group/raid DPS.
>>583789704Night Elves = Kaldorei, the original purple-elves who had the Empire before Queen Azshara's melty blew the continent up.Highborne = the Nobility caste of the Night Elves, the Quel'dorei, "The Children of Noble Birth," that existed pre-Azshara melty and post-Azshara melty. Highborne Group A, headed by Dath'remar Sunstrider, had a melty about being told "stop doing Arcane magic shit," cast a big Arcane storm in protest, then got exiled from Kalimdor by Malfurion+Tyrande. These specific Highborne sailed to E.K. and founded Silvermoon, and eventually become known as the High Elves amongst themselves + the humans they magically uplifted.Highborne Group B, the Shen'dralar headed by Prince Tortheldrin, located in what is now the Dire Maul dungeon area, were the Empire's magical archivists, storing all the Empire's knowledge on magic for preservation. When Azshara's big melty blew up the continent, they protected themselves with a big shield, but faced with the loss of the Well of Eternity, they big depressioned and considered alternatives. Not being fully aware of the specific details about the Burning Legion + The War that preceded Azshara's melty, Prince T's big plan was to imprison and siphon magic from Demons, such as Immol'thar. Normal timeline: Prince T's plan 'works,' they all huff Fel paint, until diminishing returns kicks in and they start killing each other for the greater high.Forever timeline: The proto-Skyborne, a faction of the Shen'dralar who considered this "huff demon taint" plan stupid as fuck, protest this with peaceful protests mixed with violence and assassinations. They succeed in fucking up Prince T's plan, then flee west to the ocean, where they strike a deal with an island of Air Elementals to raise the island up to the Elemental Plane of Air in exchange for secretly living together for 10,000 years.The blue skin is a mutation that has massively ramped up in the last 5 generations.
any ERP guilds?
tauren warriorprot the whole waynever leaving dstance for any reasonsimple as
>>583793663chuds will finance this game with their $20 a month tendiebux allowance. minus $15 for the subscription though.
>>583793502I will wait for them to actually finish the talents.>I hate the new Shiftingpower talent since it will leave you standing with your pants down after using it twiceYou still need it.>Berserk kinda sucks for cat only, even in PvPIt's a 15 seconds fear immunity on a class that desperately needs it. I have no idea what you're trying to do with the build. Clearly it's not for pve but at the same time it's not for pvp because you're not gonna get anywhere by monoforming cat in pvp.
Professional Nostalrius raider Ahmpy says dungeon boosting is still possible even after the dungeon XP nerfs.https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x090oe/ahmpy_on_xp_changes/
>>583793913I've been thinking about leveling a prot warrior but wouldn't you be completely useless against gankers
>>583793707yes but without removing roots, so you probably want to switch forms anyways, at least in pvp, now you have to spend mana on two things that previously were paired together.and thince energy regen is worse, berserk kinda sucks too, even with thistle tea you might get 4-5 shred crits in, if you even need any more crit
>>583789467roguewarlock
>>583792465What's the polearm stat'd like?
>>583793907roll on pve rp alliance server
>>583793886Don't forget there is the hidden highborne that use the light for their mana addiction and just chill in theramore. Everyone forgets them it's the reason there is a possibility the blood elves are saved before they become blood elves with fel energy, by turning to the light or the moon elves for sustaining
Fresh Bake>>583794042>>583794042>>583794042
>>583793907see>>583777435
>>583794002>It's a 15 seconds fear immunity on a class that desperately needs it.Do you tho? It doesn't remove stun and you have the trinket for this. Other than stun, fear isn't such a big deal since there is no arena.
>>583794078Ugh... can we get a new thread without the same transphobic image, please? Be a better human next time.
>>583794227Go play against a lock or a priest and you'll learn. And you're also giving up 100% crit rate on shred for 15 seconds for...1% damage.Also if feral becomes relevant every other guy will carry these.
>>583794445it's 5%, but good point, i'm still not on board with shifting power tho
>>583794910No, it's 1%. Berserk costs 1 talent point, not 5 like naturalist.
ELFS FOREVER
>>583793076>10 man raid>still required to have 2 druids and 2 shaman>4/10 raid members are druid and shamanYou're a retard
>>583793746>the 20% attack speed reduction is essentially a 20% damage reductionWrong. The 20% attack speed reduction is typically less than a 20% damage reduction. It typically is closer to a 15% damage reduction, but can drop lower than that of course depending on the primary source of damage being dealt by an enemy.
I love when buffcucks give me free buffs.
Why are druids mandatory in raids? Retailzoomer here
>beta down until midnightFUCK YOU BLIZZARD REFUND MY MONEY
>>583807025Ferals give crit to physical dps, boomkin give spellcrit. Mark of the Wild is one of the best buffs, thorns is nice on tank, and they have battle res.
