>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21. Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Previous Thread>>584528401
Give us your last minute patch predictions
>>584552893>>584552945
>>584553056POV orc racial raped
how is the game with a controller?
>>584553204very good.
>>584553216Type b Uncboom melty
>>584553056Ret aura and thorns nerfed again, penance nerfed again
>it's another journey tards (actual shills) pretending not to understand to make discussion impossible I'm noticing!SoD-, you'll be back crying and sobbig you got dupped again btw.
ordering a publix sub. should I get a club or a cuban. not in the mood for a chicken tender one
Be warned: The latest R*toilet patch is massive flop so they're dooming in Forever's threads.
>>584553302no issues with classes that have lots of buttons to push?
>>584553704you can even act like a spastic
Assuming 5 days /played to get to level 60 then being a LW with campfires gets you 6 levels of rested XP with perfect use. 4 levels are more realistic but thats still a shitload meaning every single class is incentivized to be a LW while leveling because you just get it to level 20 and then forget about it other than sourcing cheap light leather for the reagentIm surprised more people arnt talking about this. they really should move the rested XP bonus to campfires as baseline and give LW a buff thats relevant at level 60 instead
>>584553750>Keyboard turning
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>584554001He's clearly using a controller.
They should set dungeon mob exp to 0 and move all the exp into the quests because of all the people crying about dungeon mob exp
>>584553662Are we pretending retoilet hasn't been a slopfest for the last decade+
Patch notes leak>all paladin damage and healing increased by 20%>penance damage and healing reduced by 50%>lightning bolt damage increased by 5%. mana cost increased by 70%>shifting power now costs 200% more mana>dwarf mace specialization reworked. it is now a 2nd copy of find treasure>all gear from dungeon quests is now green>all gear from dungeons is now green>all gear is now green>fixed a bug that would sometimes cause hunters to lose a pvp encounter>fixed a bug with our automated RMT prevention sometimes flagging streamers accounts
Arc is ending boys. He won't even make it to launch. LMAO.
>>584554129You forgot one>Horde deleted
>>584553991It definitely would make more sense to get rested exp from the campfire and something else from LW
They will revert the dungeon nerfs if people keep loudly complaining about it. They are completely audience captured because WoWF is their last chance and they can't fuck it up.
>>584554183someone post the kangaroo erp
>>584553991is this taking into account how much of the xp to 60 is kills vs quests?
>planning to play on RP>coworker wants to play on PVE with OlympusCan't decide if I should cave in and roll on PVE to play with my coworker that will probably never hit 60 or stick to RP and avoid the bullshit
>>584554289only thing they are captured by are e-celebs.
>>584554183wasnt this guy streaming 5-11 hours a day for the last 2 weeks?why is he pretending like he has any sort of social life if this is on top of working a "job"
>>584554129>>fixed a bug that would sometimes cause hunters to lose a pvp encounterFinally, I ran into this bug constantly
us Retail Chads will rise and block out the sun!
only one of these is races are imba and subject to nerf according to aggrend
>>584554339find a new job
>>584554330the buff is 5% of a level of rested XP on a 1 hour CD so 1 level's worth of extra mob XP every 20 hours of playtime. more than 10% of the XP from 1-60 so the actual split between quests/mobs doesnt really matter
>>584554295This is all I have.>>584554365We actually found his job, he's working for straton industries as a ''project coordinator'' which is fancy talk for male-secretary for the guy doing the actual important work. But yeah dude has no life, goes to work, and thats it.
>>584554339You main rpThrowaway Olympus alt
>>584554580oh yeah that makes sense. that is pretty strong
>>584554183I don't disagree
>>584554670>another eceleb found to be a sex pestNot even surprised anymore
>>584554670Post that picture under a google review
>>584554437Not enough retail players left to block out a lightbulb
>>584555017LMAO. good idea, but im too pussy to do it, who knows if that faggot tries to report my account and i get vanned for doxxing.
>>584554670I don’t know if this is canceling material, he seems to just want to cum in this woman who is reciprocating
How is /wowfg/ feeling about Forever?https://poal.me/z18iothttps://poal.me/z18iothttps://poal.me/z18iot
>>584555225>cancelingits just funny. and he is super sensitive about it. he was so fucking mad that his sexting with a woman he never met irl got leaked. fyi she was a fat bitch with bpd (just like he has). and yet he was begging her to go live with him just from talking to her for 2 weeks on discord.
It's 2026. Guilds should not be allowed to exist in WoW Forever. The fact that people can decide you're "not a good fit" and just exclude you is genuinely disturbing and discriminatory. Why does Blizzard think it's acceptable for players to choose who they want to associate with?
>>584554183He was going to quit anyway, who cares?
>>584555258IT'S SHITGO FUCK YOURSELF
>>584555648Being discriminated against for not being good enough is the modern retard's fantasy. Guilds filtering out shitters is the real end-game for them.
im horny
>>584555707>>584555225>>584555017>>584554925>>584554909
STUPID FUCKING WARLOCK
>>584554183Good, maybe if all the other streamers could also fuck off we could have a good game for once
>>584555886WHY ARE YOU WANDING? WHY ARE YOU USING WAAAND?! I wish i could post webms with sound in this retarded board.
>>584554519I don't really like Trolls have two racials that cover the same thing (is Regeneration actually any good?), feel like they should just have the active and replace Beast Slaying too. Maybe bring back Da Voodoo Shuffle and create one new passive
>>584556016I wand to believe!!
Are we infiltrating Olympus and destroying it from within?
my collector's edition arrived :D
can you name those little pets? not the hunter ones but the companion ones like cats and snakes. is there one that’s a white tiger or white cat?
>>584556079im regenning 10hps and theres nothing you can do about it
>>584555885>>584555886>>584556016>>584556084https://streamable.com/kc9fcehttps://streamable.com/kc9fceWHY DID SHE POT?!
>>584555258Lazy. They should have let it cook 1-2 years.
>>584556180he runs this thread
Best Case Scenario: Blizzard reserves a special block of time on the Video Game Awards, assembles all the Devs and Executives, apologizes for producing twenty years of pure dog shit slop and then commits mass suicide live on stage
>>584554183
Haven't touched wow since wotlk, any chance of this version having a sizeable RP playerbase?does anyone still rp on wow retail?
>>584556079It's bizarre that they chose to steal the Zandalari regen racial before giving them Voodoo Shuffle.
>>584556248>>584556336
No, I will simply not be clicking on or watching your streamer bullshit, sorry (not sorry).
>>584556383Yes, the number one request on the forums is for an RP-PvP server. Retail is unironically hemorrhaging people for this game and many of them will RP. If you're looking fir erp though, it's probably going to still be retail as king
Why aren't we playing Alex's favorite game, M&M?
>>584556551Hope they don't give it to them.
>>584556551If they add RP PVP, they have to add PVP 2 or else people will use RP PVP to play their other faction.Of course, they could make the PVP faction account wide.
>>584556671
Why do you guys spend so much time ranting about your class not doing top DPS when everything is going to be balanced to be within 5% of each other? And even if it's not like that (at first) the most important thing is if your class is fun. Performance doesn't matter. Also the hybrid tax has to apply SOMEWHERE
>>584555885zesty
>>584556834>when everything is going to be balanced to be within 5% of each other?do you honestly believe them? Even if they magically balance everything at level 60, do you think that there should be some parity inbetween and not how it is currently?
How did retail losted so hard?
new patch
>>584556989Retarded systems stacked on retarded systems. Mythic+ and gearing is dogshit, vaults are dogshit.
Can you stop talking about some youtuber nobody other than your discord tranny group knows?
Nelfs
>>584553056Orc racial now only removes curses, no immunity.No further changes, no changes to undead, horde racials still OP
>>584556989Hyper focusing on M+ and Mythic Raids as the only form of content in the game.
>>584556989Retail still has millions of players. What does forever have? A bunch of twitch shills that will drop the game once GTA VI goes live? You lost.
>>584557135
>>584557142are for sex
>>584556989it’s death by a thousand cuts imo. it slowly morphed into a lobby game e-sport lite, with time-boring necessary chores in between runs
>>584557053What are you calling retarded? Those are future systems for forever! Imma complain continuously until personal loot and universal mob tagging is added! :3
The Forever excitement... Has failed.
>>584553056>Give us your last minute patch predictionsIts gonna fix nothing
>>584557218Where would nelf wifey go to level in worlo forlo first?
>Billion dollar company releases their classic ploos with 1/5th of the new content of turtle wow
>>584545175aimed shot cast time scales down with attack speed buffs you vantablack gorilla nigger so as long as you had a bow/crossbow slower than 3 base speed the aimed shot would always fit inbetween shots with no damage loss on autoshoti swear you retards dont even know how the game works
>>584557458They can afford lawyers and thats all that matters.
>>584557458Why don't you go play turtle then
>>584553991It only matters after like 40 anyway. A bubble of rested xp at low level is barely more time saved than the time spent sitting at a fire.
>Retail models >Retail story telling>Retail balance>Mega servers>Vertical not horizontal>Donutsteel>Dungeons ONCEAmong other thingsDeath by a thousand cuts
>>584557458They own the copyright you third worlder. Go be brown somewhere else
Why don't we all just make our own solo private servers filled with bots and use claude to change whatever we want? That's basically what blizzard is doing.We don't need to rely on corpos anymore to give us a good gaming experience.
>>584557523Pretty sure any poorfag could afford a cheap lawyer to defend such obvious copyright infringement
>>584557696because I actually want to play with people . I bet youre the kinda guy that will be happy with an Ai gf
WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS WEEKS BALANCE PATCH
Waiting for Demon Hunter so I can name myself My Scars so I can go I AM MY SCARS
>>584557384TRANNY CLOCKING IN FOR ANOTHER 18 HOUR SHIFT OF SPAMMING IT'S UGLY SLOP
>>584553662shouldn't retoilets be used to that?why are they pretending?
>>584557812They just dropped, turn on wowhead
I am leveling ONE character and when my raiding guild dies off around the start of Naxx I will quit and never look back
>>584552954billions are planning their return to anni for za
Amerifats are waking up, thread is about to go to absolute shit
Classic era fresh when
We are sorry that we can't balance spell power, and believe that it is too hard to allocate both INT and Spellpower on gear to give casters the scaling they once experienced. We will now combine both intellect and spell power and call it "Mastery". Additionally, more and more classes need spirit, this is also hard to budget on classes like warriors or shamans who required them, so we are combining spirit and agility and calling it "versatility" thank you for the final patch notes for Forever.
>>584555225Yeah, just looks like typical ERP cringe
>Open WoWhead>Computer instantly freezes for like 30 seconds>Runs like molasses afterHuh??
>>584554437that's fine, just do it elsewhere
>>584557982You can play Era right now. Not like it's going away with Forever launch either.
>Blizzard was worse at making classic + than brown vatnik tranny copyright infringing turdworlders
>>584557995It really does feel like Forever was pushed out so that big brother Microsoft didn't chop Blizzard into pieces
>>584558029thanks for the bitcoin retard
>>584557801>because I actually want to play with peoplenobody talks in modern WoW, though. everyone just hides away in their discords. say hi to someone in game and they'll just ignore you
>>584556834>when everything is going to be balanced to be within 5% of each other?lollmao, even
>>584558029use ai or get left behind, Luddite!
>>584556989Foids and troons in control of the game
didnt blizzard literally have to apologize after the last retoilet patch
>>584558081I thought it was obvious Blizzard is scrambling to make something that makes money so Microslop doesn't replace half of them with AI. The funny part is they are getting replaced anyway
So how long with Forever last? 6 months?
>>584558280which one? the current shitty one or the previous shitty one?
>>584556989unironically women
>>584557384Why does this bitch have horns? It's not a NElf
>>584558358Forever
>>584558387And guess which team is also making forever lmao
>>584558358A little past next summer
>>584558509well lets have fun while it lasts
>>584558358Once it starts dying down they'll release hard-core and get a new batch of streamer content
Blizzard should have split their dev teams into male team and female team and have both of them make their own version of wow
>>584553662How does that differ from any previous patches?
>>584558578These mouth breathers really don't add anything of value to the dev talks
>>584557696This will probably be a reality within the next 2 years. Player bots are already good enough for dungeons and BGs with.
>>584558280They have apologized after a lot of patches, the last big one was in TWW and they said they would "do better" followed by the next patch being just as bad and buggy again of course
>>584558509taking bets on how long until they insert a mary sue gurlboss
>>584558387Not even women want to claim the noserings.
>>5845583583 months longer than classic laster
>>584556161pls respond
>>584558730Well they already injected a "being angry and vengeful is... LE BAD" moral sermon into the Mankrik questline
>>584558864No way they touched that quest
>>584554295got ya
BLIZZARD GIVE BLOOD ELF DRUIDS NOW
>>584558796women only hate trans people behind closed doorspublicly they will show support and claim solidarity
Im not gay or agp but I want to suck big juicy tauren cocks so bad...
>>584558912The ghost of her wife shows up afterwards and tells him to not be hateful n shieeet
>>584558029>>Open WoWheadreminder that this guy is one of wowhead writers
>>584558929fabricated by AI
>>584558939that doesn't make any sense
>>584556551Pretty exciting. I'd imagine they're hesitant to split up an already small playerbase, but sounds like it's bigger than I thought.RP-PVP would be great, but i heard those servers got overrun by normal players in classic
>>584558939Which AI gives out sloppa like this?
>>584553662Retail was in an especially shit state when 2019 classic released and retail players started playing classic instead.
>>584558864>>584559025fucking gay, kill all the fucking pigmen!
>>584559250Blizzard, give us Blood Elf Druids now!>>584559292https://x.com/Wowrevampai/status/2110744061766504764?s=20
>>584559283holy fuck, look at the bezel on that beast. what a different time it was.
>>584558929Why does this model look so much better than the Skelves we have?
https://argorlant.github.io/forever-practice-yard/this scratched my itch for wow
>>584559379I cant deny that AI tools are starting to impress me
>debating between Resto Shaman and Resto Druid>druid is way more fun playstyle-wise>shaman is absolutely mandatory>both specs cannot solo farm gold even with dual spec apart from nieche bear druid solo farms and shaman has nothing90% I'm going Druid but FUCK man I wish Shaman wasn't in such a horrendous spot right now
What's up with fake twitter users from India trying to disguise as american wow players and asmongold fans???????? there's so many of these fucking niggers
>>584558947Because theyre fucking retarded.
>>584558387WoW has always had a sizable population of women, far more than any other popular game in the early 2000s. You can't blame this one on women, men have been making the design choices for decades.
>>584559513I've been trying out RS3 Ironman to scratch the itch so far
>>584559651In classic phase 1 I could farm 120 gold / hour on my feral druid so there are definitly way to solo farm
>>584559250He's a disgusting brown AIjeet, but it makes sense. Blood Elf druids have been in the lore since TBC.
>>584559025Well, she's dead and he's alive -and- avenged her, so her ghost can either pass on or possess a younger, hotter orc or nelfie to resume being his wife.
>>584559651Just group and do dungeons, its decent gold and less mind numbing and there will definitely be some super rare drops that force you to play forever
>>584559513hey this is pretty great, it actually convinced me that balance is by far the best druid build
bwos….pvp or rp server? keep in mind one has all the good players and other your future gf/wife
>>584559905>botanistHe's just larping with druid shoulders
>>584559651Almost no classes have a good solo gold farm wtf even is this complaint, make a hunter if you want to solo gold farm
>>584560007rp is pointless if it isn't rp-pvp
>>584560007Pvp server always. The world feels dead to me without threat of enemy players.
>>584560107truthnuke
>>584554183three day monk syndrome
>>584560046He turns into a Treant.
roll on a pvp server:>Get ganked once and rage so bad I scream and rage-cry and start slamming my desk and punching myself. Mother forbids me from playing between 10pm and 6am if she has work the following morning. Be scared to do anything where I might get ganked and have another episode.reroll on pve server:>Game feels boring and lifeless. Don't even have the motivation to raidlog.
I'm gonna use Rested XP to autopilot speedrun through WoW Forever questing, and here is why:1) I've played Wotlk and SoD with two characters each already, so I've ALREADY done FOUR 200 hours runs through all the leveling zones already.2) The quests are boring af.Gather 10 wasp stingers here.20 donkey dicks there.3) The story sucks.Whenever I'm leveling a nee character I tell myself to now finally read through all the stories and immerse myself.But what's the lore?"Hi, I'm a famous sausage maker.Dear, adventurer please go collect some boar meat for me so I can make sausages"Bro, you serious?I'm the enlightened Queen of the Immortals from the Far Eastern Realms. How dare you task me with such trivial tasks??Okay, Imma do it anyway, cuz I need the XP and shit.God fucking dammit!4) Time is money!Slow leveling means the market is gonna be saturated once you reach level 60.It's gonna hard to make money.You technically don't need money for anything except for epic mount and flasks in the game.But I like to tip enchanters generously and give noobs some startup money.I feel like some big shot Cosa Nostra capo when I give enchanters 5gold for a 50silver enchant like they're fucking strippers.5) Raids open in 4 weeks and you gotta be ready to be in a good group to get the loot and stay at the cutting edge of player power.If you're some schmuck reaching max level 6 weeks after raids open and join some dumbass pugs who can't even clear the goddamn raid, you'll go into BGs and get ONESHOT by dumbass skillless unemployed sweats.Of course, if you're some skilllless filthy casual dad urself, you might not mind, but that's unacceptable for the Queen of The Immortals.6) I just fucking hate leveling bro.7) I actually need to go back to the real world and PWN NOOBs there as well.I want to be at the top of player power and just raidlog and play 4 hours per week, make WoW shitposts on X, but I need to expand my business in real life and PWN.
I am not reading all that shit
>>584560565Not reading all that but restedxp is going to suck ass when the creator hasn't routed out the game with all the new quests yet.
>>584560565brother im not reading any of that shit
>>584560565but they don't know any of the quests above lvl 30 or so
>>584560565Go play retail, didnt read your shit either
>>584560545Sounds like a mage casting polymorph on himself to turn into a treant. These larpers are dedicated.
>>584556551Retail will be king for ERP until they introduce Draenei to Forever
>people now pretending they don't know what horizontal progression is curious!
>>584560565Didn't read.
only Alex can save forlo
Alchemybros.... we are nerfed.... now what?
>>584559751>men have been making the design choices for decadesAnd when this stopped after the #MeToo fiasco they had at Blizzard, the game went from meh to irredeemably bad
>>584560565You can do whatever tf you want. Forever is still the superior game to retail.
>>584560796Mages can't cast polymorph on themselves.
PATCH NOTES ARE OUT
>>584555258vibes are immaculate
>>584561091GOOD BYE TROLLS
>>584560545*buuurp* I turned myself into a treant Kael'thas!
>>584561091DWARFCHADS WON
They should remove RP-PvE and make RP servers PvP only. World of WARCRAFT, if you want to be in character you need commit to the bit.
>>584561134What happened
devs cooking so hard desu> killed shitty tbc anni with the announcement, fuck that trash, worst expansion ever> dungeon xp nerfed to screw the boosters> warriors nerfed> mage AOE farming nerfedmight turn out to be good after allthe gold buying prevention no one believes though, blizz loves that shit and boomers love buying, might as well sell the token
>>584561091post
>>584560839Nobody has ever explained how horizontal progression is progression. If the gear you get from the first raid is just as good as gear you get from the second raid, the third raid, and so on, why would you bother doing anything after the first raid?
>>584560565Slip my troll warlock 10g for a 5s enchant and I'll agree with your stance, bro.
>>584561180Stay in your streamer containment server.
>>584561212nothing just saying bye to trolls
do most people play with HD models on?
>always play holy pala>it's shit now so might roll priest>holy pala always ends up being op as shit anyway
>>584561317That's PvE thougheverbeit
>>58456133890% will play with HD models, for sure, alongside with all the other qol improvements
>>584560565You lost Iranian RMT booster trannny
>>584561338Every promotional video Blizzard has put out uses the SD models.
>>584561338Yes, SD uncoids are the minority.
>>584561418but now you have play prot or ret
>>584561338if you're not at character height with your camera you can't even tell sd from hd models when playing
>>584554289I don’t know why you want it reversed. There are more dungeons now meaning you already basically go from one dungeon into the next but you also want to spam them? So you just don’t want to be in the world at all? Sounds like retail trannies to me.
>>584561262>This item gives you x plus spell power while you are inside karazan and y new raidOR/and>This item is 1% better than the current bis, i.e. tiny incremental better items, slow af vertical progression That's it
>>584561418reminder that the hyjal legendary is a staff so paladins will be even further behind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVaEDYyT5Hkwow pooever is finished, the tide is turning, the shills are getting destroyed
>>584561474>there are unironic RestedXP marketers here nowdire
Do we get a podcast today as well? Who's the embarrassing sellout going to be this time around?
>>584561338I don’t.More good looking SD models than HD Models.Dwarf Male looks good in HD, Troll Male, Tauren Male, and Undead Male.But their SD counterparts are Good or serviceable so it isn’t worth all the ugly HD Models.My personal opinion. You may very well like many of the HD Models.
Why do people who play on pve realms try to tell me what happens on a pvp server?
I haven’t played WoW in ages and for the first time my gf (trans btw) is gonna see me obsess over WoW for the first time. How are you guys managing your partners
>>584561720asmonchud
>>584561794Why are PvPfags obsessed with fighting on bridges?
>>584561712You are complaining about dungeon XP nerfYou are Iranian RMT tranny
main hand: bowoff-hand: gun
>>584561645everything he said is retarded
Please nerf the fuck out of that gay new orc racial so alliance warlock won't be ass to play again
>>584561627>>This item gives you x plus spell power while you are inside karazan and y new raidBut why would I want to go into Karazhan or the new raid? What's my incentive if the gear in Karazhan and the new raid are equal to the gear I already have?>>This item is 1% better than the current bis, i.e. tiny incremental better items, slow af vertical progressionSo it's just a slower version of what Vanilla WoW already does.
>>584561426>thougheverbeit
>>584561338only pedophiles play with the hd models on, because that's who they were made for
>>584561919no it isn't, you didn't even watch it, tranny
>>584561773>undead male>looks good in HDwrong bigly
>>584561794what the fuck PvE bros this looks like so much fun…. I was told I’d be getting corpsecamped for hours and fair WPvP wasn’t even real?? this can’t be happening ….
>>584561794This only ever happens when some streamer gets his simps to gather 'round.
>>584561262>>584561627Are you guys retarded?It's obvious that they'll have different tiers still just like in vanilla, and they'll probably go up to tier 4 and maybe even tier 5 in power level. Where a fully decked out T5 character will effortlessly rape a fresh 60, but that was largely the case with T3, too.But what they'll end up doing is not only making more raids in each tier (1-5) so you have more options, but have a variety of mounts/pets/mogs to collect outside the power curve.They can also do something called soft character resets where you drop back down to level 1 in order to get a small but permanent boost once you hit 60 again, basically prestige, that can be cumulative. You out yourselves as retoilets by not understand why vanilla design can be meaningful outside of the blatant vertical progression hamster race, because you know that retail is dogshit outside the first 2 weeks of new content.
>>584561893one raid was chasing the other, they led them to the bridge and were ordered to halt and defendyou a 87 iq nig or something lil gup?
>>584561893ever heard of a chokepoint? like your mouth for a melange of cocks.
>>584562014dont need to
>>584561925ah, the axe racial i guess
>>584562014I did earlierhe is a retail andy and wants to make another retail game
>>584561925As a warlock main, i've given up.Even if they nerf orc they'll never nerf will of the forsaken because undead players think their race identity is beating warlocks and priests.Lok'tar my fellow shoeless hut dwellers!
>>584562123>>584562159I don't know, I think you degenerates just want to fuck bridges or something.
>>584560839WoW players have never experienced horizontal progression in the 20+ years of the game being a thing. We also know from those 20+ years that the devs never keep their promises so we are likely gonna get vertical progression anyway.
>>584561794where is this in game?
>>584562068This had nothing to do with streamers. It was a simple community event. We did stuff like this regularly. This one was a bit more experimental because we did it for the low levels. The 60s you see were making sure the rules were maintained.
it's pretty funny how streamers are dictating how everyone else should play when they are going to play in the most degenerate way possible so they can look down on us from their ivory tower with an army of 60s they leveled in the fastest way possible, every mount in the game, every achievement/legacy points, shit tons of free gold from their fans and the best possible gear faster than anyone else. we did it to ourselves
>>584562232will is already nerfed you absolute mongoloid
>>584562232wotfs isn't bad now that it's an immunity. you just double cast fear on them.
>>584562171>$100,000>life changing amount of moneywas this aimed at literal 3rd worlders
>>584562367It still completely warps match ups.
Lil gups
>>584562329my god stop production everyone he tanked a level 20 dungeon in an offspeci don't think i ever dipped into the fucking prot tree as a warrior in classic before like level 50 and just tanked every dungeon with zero problems as arms
>>584562258This was Project Epoch, I believe this was customised for Redridge.
584562329imagine not having this fat shitskin leech blocked on every platform
>>584560107>>584560118How do I convince my friends to go PvP?
>>584561898>ESL jeet marketergrim
when bliz says “horizontal” they just mean they’ve added new quests and profession recipes. it has nothing whatsoever to do with endgame. the idea of lateral endgame progression FOREVER a mass hallucination
>>584562506Call them pussy faggots for wanting to go pve.
>>584561262The new gear set gives you bonuses which basically totally changes your playstyle.
>>584562481Private servers don't count because they're largely insulated against the streamers due to Twitch TOS.
>>584562329ret is viable, you get half cost consecrate and free judgements and a stronger holy strike very early onprot gets mana regen on blocks, but judgements cost mana, thats all they get until 35+ until they get reck and a last stand
with only 1 weekend left in the beta is there anything i missed that i should do? i did every dungeon multiple times, my gear is good enough that i dont care to farm more, i think i did the worthwhile chase quests for the torch & sleeping bag. Is the BG worth checking out?
>>584562597Anyone can organise an event. Streamers have nothing to do with it.
>>584562521horizontal for them just means they're going to stay in azeroth the whole game, everything else is literally retail
>>584562329I can't stand this faggot absolute fucking shitter hard stuck in barrens in hardcore how the fuck can anyone take this mong seriously beyond shite
ohh the journey ohhhh the journey *cums*
>>584562669i mean anyone could run for president but good luck with that
>>584562171He's right on pretty much all accounts here. They're so busy balancing things around a level 30 beta cap when the game is out in less than a month. The first few months of forlo are going to be open beta disguised as release.
>>584562669The dwarf only guild on SoD Crusader Strike, I think they were called Clan Battlehammer or some shit, was some streamer's personal army. The dwarf only guild on Epoch, Anvilguard, was just some random people that all wanted to play dwarf.
>>584562521Fell for it again award
>>584562637win the STV fishing contest
who we watchin?
>>584562329>we need to Le talkGet this HR speak out of my face
>>584562637Did you play the forsaken campaign in WC3?
>>584562478>>584562613>>584562680it's pretty telling the devs are using his talking point about Naxx gear being too optimized so they are inserting worthless stats to make it feel like vanilla
>>584562171Blizzard isn't hosting it though? Dumbass summary AI can't be relied on for specifics like this.
>>584562521New quests and zones to level in and explore is what the majority of people want from Classic+. Turtle and Epoch were entirely about the leveling content.
>>584562637the new BG is literally reskinned eye of the storm
>>584562329And they'll never be disciplined for RMT.
>>584562521I feel like they themselves don't yet know how to handle it. For a few years it's no problem but eventually if you keep adding content there's no choice but for some of it to become obsolete. Would be crazy if Guilds had to do 5+ different Raids every week.
>>584562439the median American has like $8000 in savings
>>584563112>I feel like they themselves don't yet know how to handle it.behold, wowf horizontal progression
>>584563206Those bracers are better than the ones I got at level 5, what the fuck!?!?!? This is vertical progression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>584563206>+6 str>clothwtf
>>584562464tobey mcguire married his jewish ex-wife to a nigger, guess you won't be using that reaction image again, huh tranny
>>584563206>str clothAggrend please... cease this madness!
>>584563206Some of it is funny in a thematically appropriate way at least.
>>584563416What
>>584563206enh shaman i guess and to balance it out they gave it nonexistant defense?
WPvP will only happen near zone borders, so you can change layers if your side is about to lose.
>>584554183did anyone grab the video of him trying to shoot up redridge before it got taken down i need it badly
>>584563206str for scaling succubus auto atk damage?
>>584563206It's funny how a battlemage gear baffles the classic and retail cucks.
>>584563365>>584563475>>584563523>>584563568Newfags
I'd like to horizontally progress my penis into a cute, loyal dwarf woman that loves me. (A goblin wife is ok too, or an orc wife, or a troll wife)
>>584563525Fuck blizzard
>>584563525WTF I love layering now
>>584562440how? just double cast curse
>>584562521>hallucination It's called deception. When has anyone ever used the term "horizontal expansion" to just mean "new content"? It's intentionally delivering key words for popular, player-friendly mechanics that people want to drum up hype and market outreach but that Blizzard won't implement for the sake of revenue (far easier to keep people mazed with a gear treadmill and WoW still is on a subscription model).
>>584563206Paladins WILL don the skirt!
>>584563525WPvP happens throughout the entire zone, because rogues can stealth as soon as they see another level 60 show up.
>>584563580i dont believe it existed in the devs mind until that one autist theorycrafted about it and they thought it was a great idea
>>584563525yes because the zone borders is where most of the people are you retard
>>584563416I remember when I was right wing I’d be hanging out with right wingers all day reading retarded incomprehensible schizo blather like this and I think it legit gave me brain damage
>>584563651Why not a tauren wife?
>>584563525Just make it so your entire party can't layer if you're in combat.
>>584563518it's a bot
>>584562171>blizzard hostedwrong.
>>584563964oh I forgot cute tauren women, they are fine too
>>584561794This was fun back in 2004, but now I just want to chill out and fish in peace on my RP realm.
>>584563525KEK this is so dogshit. Worse than GW2 map portals because at least there you'd see the same people on the other side.
>>584563525layering is so fucking gay
>Ryan here. I will avenge my alt by corpse camping you.>*layers*>Oh...
>>584563525Isn't this sharding and not layering?
>>584563518>>584563887>>584563998troon brigade
>>584562521
>>584563887Congrats on your transition, xis
>>584563760Fear is hardcast and has no pushback resist.It's not trivial to cast it when an enemy is in melee. Doing it twice is often impossible. If you have a succubus it may be fine.Either way, i won't be complaining about it when the game is out because i will be playing horde.
>>584564002its hosted on blizzards server.
>>584564128ganking lowbies with layering is literally a victimless crime
>>584563525run, escape!
>>584564128unc fr thought ts was tuff
>>584563630It was retarded then, it's retarded now
>>584564128>muh "productive evening">in a video game
>>584564340Do you even like World of Warcraft?
>>584564382poopsockers and dadgamers have the same mental illness but from opposite ends, everything needs to be an optimized and productive use of your time, simply having fun doesnt matter to them
>>584564128LOL this is such nuclear fucking cringe
>>584564192>It's not trivial to cast it when an enemy is in melee.So what? Horde warlocks have to deal with this too. And they don't have a stun break, unlike humans.>cast fear once>it goes off>immediately start casting it again>by the time they will of the forsaken break it, they're feared again
Do wu even wike worwo warcwaf?
>americans woke up>thread went to shit
At what time do they usually patch this crap
>>584564540i love you anon. You specifically not any other anon here YOU
the new dev episode is outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaMA5fZ1tE
buy restedxp or else...
>>584564383Explain what about useless stats on gear contributes to making vanilla WoW good
>>584564531I don't care. I got sick of losing fights i know i would win if not for WotF in this beta.I have decided i won't be dealing with this once the game is out. It's that simple.
>>584564730>PvP episode okay so a nothingburger
>>584564730>pvp episode
>>584561627>3% movement speed in Blackrock Mountain
>>584564128Ryan has a full t2 geared rogue with perdition's blade despite only having 90m to play every night?
>>584564739Where's your affiliate link, Aggrend?
female hunter with worg pet
elwynn foresthall of thanesruins of lordaeronwestfalldeadminesredridgewetlandsexcavation site wetlandsduskwoodtheres your restedxp 1-30 guide
I want to play WoWever with this person;Tall Red Haired Woman with pale skin, prominent front teeth, prominent clavicle.We can level Elves together…
>>584564925His girlfriend e-fucks the guildmaster for loot prio
I will play the stress test but I have zero intent of actually playing Forever
>>584564970YJK
>>584564837>I have decided i won't be dealing with this once the game is out. It's that simple.I guess you haven't learned yet that every pvp trinket now breaks fear. So yeah, you'll be dealing with it
There is no way in gell this game is ready for November. They didn't test anything post 30. Alliance might as well not have shamans because no one plays dwarves. Skyborne racials are basically worthless. Layering is still fucked. How is this in any way going to be ready?
>>584565049lol
This post is for you Blizzard.You sold me on the idea of finally getting off the gear treadmill that drove me away from Retail. I left Classic because of the rampant RMT and GDKP garbage. Then you came along with WoW Forever and gave me something I hadn’t felt about WoW in a long time. Hope.The promise of truly horizontal progression was exactly what I wanted. (AND no GDKPs/RMT) A world where I could level and gear alts to my heart’s content, knowing that the time I invested in those characters would NEVER be invalidated. Where my characters effectiveness in raid today would still be just as effective in that raid years from now. Where new content meant new adventures, new challenges, and new rewards, but where stat weights wouldn’t change, just shift, or new play styles would emerge.I never expected to walk into every new raid wearing yesterday’s gear. I expected to have to earn new equipment, develop new strategies, and overcome new challenges. What I didn’t expect was to lose the power I’d already earned simply because you decided it was time to move the goalposts again.And today, I read that you’re entertaining the idea of an eventual soft reset, and that vertical progression has apparently been deemed impossible to avoid. Are you kidding me? You sold me on a game without a power level treadmill, only to turn around and tell me the treadmill was inevitable. You lied to me.Maybe that’s harsh. Maybe the intentions were genuine. But I made my purchasing decision based on the vision you presented, not the one you’re now apparently considering. And if the promise of horizontal progression comes with an expiration date, then it was never really the promise I signed up for. I’ve refunded my preorder.To everyone else, I genuinely hope you have fun. Enjoy your treadmill with its 2% incline and leisurely walking speed. I’m sure it’ll feel different enough for a while. But it’s still a treadmill, and I’m not interested.
>>584564730Someone post AI summary
>>584564730jesus the asian eceleb is paler than his white wall
>mfw I heal and people tell me I did a good job
>>584565120Ok. In that case i'm choosing not to deal with it twice.
>>584564730wow blizzard is adding vendors for the pvp restedxp tournament
Blizzard will add the space goats or they will pay the ultimate price
>>584565274Oh hey I saw this post on the WoW forumsGet fucked Horizontroon
There's a stress test?
>>584565342By playing a horde warlock you're choosing to eat every 6s hammer of justice and 6s kidney shot. Hope the trade off is worth it
If it's ok to sell addons why isn't it ok to sell cosmetics and mounts?
>>584565250>Skyborne racials are basically worthlessThis is intentional. You already see all the hate skelves have generated, now imagine crying about p2w racials on top of that.
>>584565439Yes, i'll take that trade.
>>584565420yea push your pants down and touch your fingers to your toes
I’d like to offer a different perspective on the decision not to include an automated Dungeon Finder in WoW: Forever, particularly when it comes to accessibility and the argument that Dungeon Finder somehow undermines community.First, I understand what the developers are trying to accomplish. Classic WoW had a very different social atmosphere from Retail, and wanting to preserve that is a perfectly reasonable design goal. I enjoyed that aspect of WoW myself.But I think there’s a distinction being overlooked here, and it’s an important one.I’m autistic. I enjoy playing with other people, including complete strangers. What I don’t necessarily enjoy is everything involved in finding those people, initiating conversations, negotiating group composition, and coordinating everyone just so I can run a dungeon.For some people, that’s part of the fun. For others, including those of us who have difficulty with certain kinds of social interaction, it can be a significant barrier.Sometimes I just want to run a dungeon, finish a quest, and get on with my evening. I don’t particularly want to organize a social gathering first.And I don’t think that makes me any less interested in participating in the community.
>>584565420yes, rise up fellow poorfags
>play priest>full healing spec>still rape every undead roguetard that tries to jump meguess they'll have to nerf penance again
$60 provided me hours on entertainment, plus some goodies in other games. Lets see where $60 takes me in other hobbies. A round of golf at a cheap course, 4-10 board feet of wood, not even an hour of a tattoo.Well worth it in my opinion. But to each their own, lets not judge others for how they spend their money.
>>584565586NO FUCK YOU THIS IS A BAIT POST DEVS THIS MAN AIN'T PRIEST
>>584565532>easily hardcasting fear a 2nd time against an already feared target is preferable to eating a 6s stunbased retard
>>584565586Is this ragebait or real?
>>584565420>mfw stress test is already installed
does anyone want to level on launch with my tauren shaman on the rp server
Damn exploring the new Dalaran brought so many memories back.
The layering is the biggest issue right now.
>>584565786are you a lusty attractive female by any chance?
>>584565586They clearly need to nerf mind blast damage
>>584564730>the people going "rp pvp has the best community so I'm going to roll there too even though I don't care about rp at all" killed rp pvp serversNot surprised in the slightest
>>584565757>stress test client is the release client>all your settings and addon settings will be saved for releaseamazing
>>584565317Forever troon:>Durrr me press heal once me da hero!>Durrr you da best hewerrrr!Retail Chad:>Okay the overlap in p3 is coming up, iv saved aura mastery and divine toll, i have alot of mana left, ill cycle holy lights and spend my infusions in between. Hopefully we’ll have enough for the burn phase! The mechanics and movements alone in this fight are intense without even factoring in heal management!>*crickets from the group as I carry them*
>>584565343PvP discussions are so uninteresting even reading the AI slop summary makes me tune out,
>>584565378GOAT NIGGER IS CLOCKING IN FOR THE NEXT 8 HOUR SPAM SHIFT
>>584553750we need an icon indicating ppl using a controller so I can ignore them in LFG
>get driver crash every time I play >stops crashing when I turn off optional gpu features and advanced work submit>can't use MSAA anymore nowWhy the fuck is MSAA even tied to those options, it's been a feature in WoW for like 20 years.
>>584565824no, no, yes
Speedrunners have already optimized leveling. The current meta is to run a five man dungeon group while quest weaving.The best comp is two undead paladins and three troll hunters.An alternative setup is warrior, druid, shaman, paladin, and hunter.They've calculated that it should take less than three days of in game time to hit 60.
>>584566107Quest-weavers, rise up
>>584565580im a former poorfag but i have retained respect for my money$60 upfront +$15/Month for Blizzard's latest hype cashgrab? nah ill pass we all know they're going to fuck up big in the next 6 months or 1 year
>>584566107uuoooooh look at me mom i am having gold questing parses
>>584565697The paladins i'll be fighting won't have WotF so that makes up for it. Usually they'll be using the stun just to close the distance.
>>584565960Yeah I like the first thing more desu
>>584565274>But I made my purchasing decision based on the vision you presented, not the one you’re now apparently consideringpurchase decision? how strange, the game isn’t even out?
>Anduin has an SD model even when you have HD turned ongrim
>>584566107>Install Questie>game basically tells you how to playThere should be a mod that allows the game to play itself like eastern mmos.
>>584563567a lot of footage of him that is very funny got flagged by the 5ft3 flaggot unfortunately. he has been on a campaign to report all videos about him 24/7. every single day people that made videos about him in the alex fanclub discord have been reporting getting privacy/dmca claims. this fucking midget is going crazy.
who gives a fuck about speedrunning
>584565960Bro thought he was tuff.
>>584566107I'm fine with everyone doing some rested bullshit guide or whatever and spamming dungeons. Just means fewer players to annoy me while I quest in the overworld.
>>584566298I don't think children ever got a model update
>>584566107Solved as fuck, pack it up boysIt's overTime to wait for the next freshBlizzard, be a better gaming studio
>>584566236>6s stun where you can't do anything is better than just having to doublecast fearyou play this game before lil gup?
is dalaran (the city not the dungeon) alliance only?
>>584565981Glad you know it.Now give her horsie a lick.
>>584558116>nobody talks in modern WoW, though. everyone just hides away in their discords. >say hi to someone in game and they'll just ignore youTRVKE
I will make a guild only for me and my alts.
>>584566107>quest weaving
>>584566307questie isnt even necessary, blizzards built in quest helper tells you where to go already the quests just arent labeled on the big map in areas you havent explored
>>584566107>quest weavingNigga that’s called playing the fucking game.
>>584566107And I've calculated that by the time I hit 60 going at my own pace and enjoying the game, those hyperoptimized poopsockers will have quit the game to ratfuck the next "fresh" release. Could not care any less.
>>584566107>72 hours of that shit sounds awful
>>584566508No.Once you clear it as horde you can even enter the city outside of the dungeon.
>>584566675thats nice bro enjoy your dead game while we have already moved on to the next game to play with asmongold and co
>>584564263Yeah no shit sherlock, that is not what hosing means in this case.
>>584566632>the quests just arent labeled on the big map in areas you havent exploredWhich is exactly why everyone is still using questie
>>584565343Guess the we will have to do RP PVP on the PVP server.
rogues are like 80% of the reason why WPvP doesn't work
>>584566790I will thank you
>>584564730>PVP episode
>>584566935>t. clothkek
>>584566935All because the devs played Team Fortress and thought that would work in an MMO.
Are pug raids a thing? I don't think I'll ever raid otherwise
>>584566632Does the built in quest tracker show drop rates so you can ignore those questions that don't go anywhere and just waste your time?
>>584567015>starts with a 5 minute long disclaimer to calm down pve carebears
I got banned from the pvp tournament discord for calling every streamer involved a rapist pedophile groomer :/
>>584556834it turns out the fat retard did not consider that giving 3% crit to 4 other dps or fucking windfury to 4 other melee dps is a much greater increase than 5%
>>584567058ive done plug raids before
>they decided to put 2 literal whos for the final podcast episode
>>584567058yes. every raid was pugged back in 2020, including naxxthe "good" pugs were like 75%+ static groups with some fills on a weekly basis and it was just a bunch of alts from different guilds who formed a guild or sorts, they had their own dedicated discords and everything
>>584566632Seeing where quests are and if they have follow-ups is the main reason to use questie, the objectives are rarely ever unclear in such a way you need map markers.
>>584563483>18 bronze bars
rp-pvp bros... its not happening... confirmed axed in the new podcast....
>>584567185I am not a groomer
>>584567058They killed the best way to pug, GDKP.
>>584567314>finalthese will keep going
>>584567058When raids are small and easy, yes. 40 man raids, probably not.
Blizz shouldve charged way more for forever. Some of you are talking like brain washed cultists and I bet you wouldve paid way more than you did to eat Blizz’s new fresh plate of shit.
>>584567715those were just for the beta
>>584561262https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Relic
PATCH NOTES ARE OUT CHECK WOWHEAD
>>584562521They should give us recipes that are comparable to raid BiS gear. Those recipes should be difficult to get / craft but that would be a good way to handle it.
>>584566107AIEEEEE FLOWER SNIFFING SISTERS I CAN'T BLAST
>>584565343>significantly nerfed AV honor gainsbravo blizzard, i too applaud killing more of the most popular aspects the game had over the last 20yrs
>>584567621Just go RP and flag for pvp.
patch notes just flew over my house, it's really happening
>>584565960I care and I noticed.t. Brown tank man
>>584567058>>584567773You're supposed to pug Onyxia which then coalesces into a guild to then raid the full 40 man instances.
>>584567827>orcs now have to do the truffle shuffle before every mobFuck...
>>584561262make combat fun enough that it makes you actually want to play the game
>>584567310>>584567336>>584567773>>584568035Alright cool. I feel like joining a guild is too much commitment for me, so I thought I'd only get dungeons>>584567627Sad
>>584566350trannies
>>584563525you dont have layers this is retoiled sharding
>The original dungeon plan for World of Warcraft in January of 2001>With planned racial paths and kinda a wishlist of dungeon flow. You may notice some interesting ones like " excavation site", "Grim Batol", and others.
>>584567058you just need to get in one raid and get some parses then you should be able to get in the rest as long as you have experience you should be fine on a weekly basis depending on your parses itll dictate how shitty your pug is thoughever
quest weaving made me kek fucking retards
>>584566530Those pale and gold variant draenei are unbelievably hot and there should be more art featuring them
Old devs were built different. How is it that fucking 20 years later they cant even come up with 1 fucking new class in this fucking game? HOW? ITS CANT BE THAT HARD BRO.
>>584568217Huh so was there supposed to be 3-4 factions instead of 2?
>streamerfags get a whole unique private arena added to the beta just to hold their little tournament, with NPCs that sell soul shards and reagents as well as an NPC that can reset your cooldownsI'm tired of streamers, cant wait for AI to replace them too
Whats the best settings for questie? I like Blizzards quest helper but I dont like how the questies quests show up on the minimap and would prefer Blizzards for that because it shows quests I can't pick up
Everyone has a curated background and Tips is just sitting against a white wall, like he's getting his mugshot taken. Greasy. This arab rug merchant is going to embezzle half the tournament funds>GET A BREZ ON ZEULAZE!!!
Let's all watch this and be better humans
>>584568339They came up with 4 classes? What are you talking about
>>584566632yes it is because the dogshit built in one does not show quest giver locationsnow of course the new quests wont show up on questie at first either but having to run across the world to find out if the quests are there or not is not exactly great
The whole leveling experience for UD paladin so far is really fun, really never touched UD areas before for low leveling even when I rolled horde. Area is very well put together and funnels you into new quest areas like Silverpine at a super reasonable pace. Only level 16 right now but I don't think I'll try to hit the cap since I'm happy keeping a bit of mystery for the experience but dang, outside of all the tech issues the core game is in a fun spot.
Please explain to me.>Blizzard fumbled WoW Classic>Blizzard fumbled WoW retail >Blizzard fumbled Overwatch >Blizzard fumbled Starcraft >Blizzard fumbled Warcraft Reforged>Blizzard fumbled Diablo >Blizzard fumbled Heroes of the Storm>Blizzard fumbled Hearthstone probably But THIS TIMEthey won't fumble WoW Forever.What makes you believe that THIS TIME it will be different?
https://youtu.be/TlrcXUHoyKk
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>SD models on>Transmog off
>>584567058Vanilla raids are easier than LFR in retail, and they've gone on record saying they're not making new raids any harder. There will be tons of PuGs effortlessly clearing.
>>584568679every single one of those is still better than what ever gachashit that is
>>584568461using a curated faux greenscreen or blurry background is cringe af
>>584568661you should know where all the old quests are already
>>584568679Of those, they only fumbled HoTS, the rest are the top games in their respective genres.
>>584568679I mean if you exist solely in a bipolar world where everything is all or nothing why even wake up to try everyday?
>>584568461isn't that the rxp owner? this nigga is loaded as fuck
>AV nerfed into the dirt for honor gainslmao rip AV
>>584568793Truth hurts.
>>584568679>they won't fumble WoW ForeverNo one unironically believes this. I'm just on the rollercoaster to see how hard and fast it crashes, but it'll be fun until then.
>>584568679They're 100% going to fumble this but I'm gonna get my 6 months of enjoyment before that
>premades won't queue into solo playersprobably the only relevant thing from that podcast
>>584568890Keep in mind, this poster was cursing blizzard’s existence moments before Forever was announced. Now shes the biggest fan girl there is.
Times change sisters
they should just make open world Guild vs guild and 1v1 shit
>>584568890PoE 2 killed D4 so hard that they had to announce D5 early.
>>584569041this is an outright lie
Aggrend about the lack of RP-PvP : "I didn't have fun on SoD RP-PvP realm so we're stopping it"
>>584568793He's right. If they added an RP PVP server it would just end up as the Alliance PvP server, and all the Alliance would quit the actual PvP server
>>584568839i do since i play in the open world but the new river zone for example i have no idea when to go to it says 35-45 level rangedesolace also apparently has a bunch of new stuff but it has a horrible spread of very low 30s and then very late 30s quests in vanilla
>>584568802transmogs are cool though, I like seeing people put actual effort into their character’s presentation instead of viewing everyone as an interchangeable mass of stats in clownsuits
>>584568890>overwatch>warcraft reforged>diablo>not fumbles
>>584569041Amazing news if true
>>584569124They’re singleplayer games, I don’t think they can be killed.
>>584569041vid timestamp or it didn't happen
>>584568793I'm mad because there really should be a second pvp ruleset since you're otherwise faction locked without playing on cringe ass pve.Grobb was great. All subsequent RP-PvP servers were ruined by streamers because of how good Grobbulus was. I think they should drop an RP-PvP ruleset later so streamers won't go there without having to start over from scratch.
>>584568461clear comms
>>584568984>>584569020Fair enough
>>58456932546:11
>>584568942AV should be removed. Horrible 'bg' that failed in what they originally intended having to be altered a dozen times.
>>584569264retail wow is a single player game and it died
>>584569228Overwatch’s only competition is Deadlock and that game isn’t even out yet, Warcraft is the most popular fantasy rts and Diablo 2 Remastered was a hit.
>>584568942seasonal rank is retarded anyway so you just get av exalted and thats pvp done for the average andy
>>584569213blizzard probably dumped a lot of quests there with high exp that you can level quick through so you dont need to slog through the other zones or its designed 35-40 with some elite quests that need a party where the mobs are higher level
So I am a quester. In classic I never do dungeons unless it’s for the quests and maybe once or twice unless there is a piece of gear I need. I personally wish there wasn’t any exp in dungeons at all, so I can safely farm the gear I need without over leveling.I don’t understand the hype about racing to 60. At 60, I get bored. I do some raids, maybe some pvp and then I quit. That’s all there is at 60 raiding and pvp. It gets boring. I hate raiding, and waiting for 40 people to get there summons, get in the instance, and then waiting at the start of the raid for a half an hour for people to get their buffs. With pvp it’s just AV farm on AV weekends where horde rush to the boss and alliance just kill npcs, also very boring. I have the voice actor addon, and I love feeling like I am doing something in the world. I hate how classic feels so empty because everyone is boosting to 60 with maybe 15 or 20% questing and leveling. I want to see people in the world, find groups to quest with and get some world pvp in. That is way more fun than grinding the same raids over and over. Both my 60 warlock and paladin sit at the character screen never to be played unless I need to farm stuff. I did have other 60s, but often times I delete them just so I can start over and play the quests again.End game is super boring.
>>584569041Only in PvP?
>>584569410HOLY SHIT IT'S REALBATTLEGROUNDS ARE UNIRONICALLY SAVED
>>584567058Pug raids always needs healers and tanks which is the hardest to fill for some reason. Sometimes it took hours.
>>584569419They just need to shorten the Alliance run by ~30 seconds to the first tower for faction parity and then it's a fine BG
>>584569020>6 months thats pretty generous. I predict it will lose massive steam around the 2 month mark
They are replacing classic AV with japanese AV
>>584569218Well, you see I'm a straight white man instead of a tranny and I don't give a shit about your gay little dress-up dollhouse. I want to see the gear you're actually wearing.
>>584569543
>Wargames coming soon after release>This will create an unofficial guild vs guild pvp league akin to clanbase ladder 20 years ago.
>>584569702right click inspect has your back
What server will Asmongold be on so I can avoid that one
Is there even a patch today?
>>584569541I feel the exact same way. I know once I'm 60 I will just make an alt, which is why the legacy system is kinda a double edged sword. It gives you reasons to make more alts but there are also bonuses that will make you get to 60 faster. So in that way you're kinda fucking yourself over compared to regular classic alts.
>>584569620Normally id agree with you but look how deluded these people are! Theyre going to bend over backwards doing flips to justify the fact they got excited for something they knew was going to be bad. Itll be drawn out compared to normal classic rereleases, 6 months until the realization truly kicks in.
>>584569804I do not want to inspect your gear. I want to see the gear that you are wearing on your character. I never, ever want to see your fucking transmog.
>>584569419AV is the best BG by far, it's the only one that could feel like a tug-o-war, the rest are stomps or fps-lite gameplay for nerds that can't aim
>>584568406WoW Forever is not for you. Get more followers on Twitch.
>>584569139SoD-
>>584569705So in general then? You won't run into premades while questing?
>>584569923and that's a good thing
>>584569601>which is the hardest to fill for some reasonBecause respec costs are bullshit in vanilla and most players wanted to stay a dps spec so they could farm.
>>584569981>queue>questing
>>584569840pve so far but lots are trying to convince him to go pvp
>>584569905tbqh when I see someone in goofy ass leveling gear looking like a salmon my first instinct is to think they are intellectually and aesthetically below me for not choosing to look cool, maybe they don’t even know how to transmog or where it is, maybe they don’t have higher functions
>>584569909AI will unironically replace all these streamerfags in the next couple of years. Companies like Blizzard will realise they can just make their own AI mascot to perform the same role, they can save all the money they pay to those parasites to advertise, and they never have to deal with them going off-script and saying things they shouldn't. AI is the death of garbage like twitch and streaming
Windfury totem (WF) is fundamentally broken and creates poor melee/ranged balance in all forms of content.Why is it broken?>WF is only accessible to melee and dramatically increases their raid damage.>The game is balanced around raid damage output.>This causes melee to have under tuned damage outside of raid content.>This makes ranged classes oppressive, especially in PvP and when aoe / speed farming instances.>WF's existence means warrior get weakened rage generation in most forms of content because they're balanced around having extra swings from WF.Options to fix this?>Spell Power Aura on a ranged caster class>Delete WF totem from the game.Pros of a spell power aura>Brings caster damage potential in raids up to par with melee dps using borrowed power from another class.>Caster damage can now be weaker outside of raids.>Dots/Spells don't work the same as melee attacks so a WF type effect for spells is a bad idea.Cons of a spell power aura>The class with the aura will have to still be over tuned outside of raids otherwise it will be worse than all the other casters that will benefit from its buff.>Ranged hunters will still be over tuned because they don't benefit from spell power or WF.>Warrior rage generation remains bad when a shaman isn't in their party to buff them with WF.Pros of deleting WF totem>Completely removes the tuning problem of WF.>Removes the hard requirement of 1 shaman per party in a raid.>Warrior rage generation can be buffed to a comfortable level in all forms of content.>Shaman can use grace of air insteadCons of deleting WF totem>Muh class fantasy.>Shaman players will complain even though they still have a strong alternative party buff.It's clear that the best option is to delete WF totem. Shaman should keep their personal buff, but the totem is a balancing problem.
Wake up honey, new schizoid post dropped.>AAAAH IM HAVING A BIPOLAR EPISODE AAAAAH IM A MIDGET OFF HIS MEDS
>>584568358I don't think there were supposed to be any factions. You just pick a race to start as and you can become friendly/at war with any other capital city.
>>584569534thats the problem i have no idea when to go there and running to desolace as alliance is mega assthe point where you are done with the low 30s quests in stv and have no good questing location is the worst part of the game followed by the early 40s to mid 40s part in tanaris
>>584570182he will flip at launch anyway
>>584570212Nigger posts this every thread, no one cares about your blah blah blah
>>584570156Alright now you're just throwing random shit around
Asmongold is misdirecting about pve, so everyone that seethes about him make plans and go pvp then he go pvp too last second
>>584570212Keep posting it, king.
>>584570212I wouldn't do that if I was a warrior. If a warrior does that I will ignore them and not play with them again, wow so hard.
>>584570260he isnt wrong, giving the streamers anything except permanent bans is a mistake
>>584569531come on now, WC3 reforged was a literal disaster, OW and diablos are money makers but OW2 was such a disaster they removed the 2, Diablo 4 is so great they already announced Diablo 5
>>584570260>all the devs work on same things
>>584570314Are you literally retarded or just ESL? The podcast was about pvp. When people queue for battlegrounds alone, they won't be put against premades ... What do questing have to do with that?
>>584570307Just remember, the reason your shaman is shit is because you don't benefit from your primary group buff. If they got rid of WF and shaman used grace of air instead, the shaman would deal more damage.
>>584570195They look like an adventurer rather than a dress-up dollhouse tranny.
>>584570426>he thinks they hire devs that just work on content for streamersany amount of time spent on that trash is time not spent on the game for the remaining 99.99% of the playerbase
>>584570472I didn't see it was about PvP
>>584570260>previous dueling tournaments>GMs port participants to an unreachable skybox to prevent griefing>...>this dueling tournament>GMs port participants to an unreachable skybox to prevent griefing but this time they put a copy/pasted arena object here>OMG HOW COULD BLIZZARD DO THIS? THEY ARE THE MOST EVIL COMPANY OF ALL TIME
Clothcucks get the rope
Ground status?
>>584569702Sometimes I really wonder what goes inside the head of someone who posts retarded shit like this
>>584570273>thats the problem i have no idea when to go thereitll probably have a breadcrumb or something that leads you there from wherever as alliance
The last good thing Blizzard made was Junkenstein's Revenge
>>584570621>GMs port participants to an unreachable skybox to prevent griefingwhy? isnt the emergent organic gameplay the sovl they want people to experience? why are streamers meant to be exempt from this
Every class should be able to wear plate armor
>>584564580>>584564580>>584564580it's over, the decompilation of blizzcorp games begins.i'd rather play my own local server with bots than redditorfags anyways.
>>584570692*looks downward*IT'S GONE WHAT THE FU---
>>584561317Asmongold said he's rolling pve tho lmao.
>>584570541I’m just imagining you looking at your purple pants and orange shirt and green helmet and your blood pressure rising because you think pressing the buttons that make your character look cool feels gay
>>584570797buy an ad, oh wait, browns too poor lmao
>>584570692My feet? On it.
im concerned and you should be too.it is time to get concerned!
>>584570797So can I run that with bots then easy?
We are all in agreement that this is fucking pathetic, right?
>>584570260>supporting community eventsthat's a blizard W tho
Who are the niggers of alliance races
>>584570754GMs fucking around during beta is pure sovl experience but we have newtards like you shitting up our game
>>584570962Yes, a bunch of cheaters with no morals.
The hype is already over for me. I wanted to be a Hope Sissy but I'm devolving into a Doom Titan.
>>584570962an intern made a dirt arena in about 5 minutes instead of having them play in a skybox void. what's the issue?
>>584570962Uh oh stinky!
Aggrend: "I don't think you understand how little [Chris Metzen] cares about this tournament when it comes to class changes. I'll mention something to him 'Oh yeah, around level 30-' and he will be 'I don't care about that!'."Also Aggrend: "It turns out: Penance is just good."
>>584570907>thinks hes rich because he pays monthly to play a modern blizzcorp gamehave some self control and stop embarrassing yourself
>>584571093Playing in an empty patch of dirt. It's like poetry.
Patch notes???
>>584570412>game is so successful they greenlit a sequelBLIZZARD IS FLOPPING AND FAILUNG!
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERALALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREADALEXENSUAL IS OUR KING
>>584570962Do you want them to design some sort of arena for these lowlives streamers?
>>584562521They're going the diablo route where you can get powerful items that change your class mechanics/abilities to make new play styles viable/fun to play.This is a good thing.
>>584570260lmao hes so fucking salty hes not part of the cool kidz popular streamer clique
>>584570329He should go RP and roleplay the roach king
So, how will the shaman problem be solved for alliance?
MR raped Overwatch so hard Blizzard literally put the woke shit on hold ahs and started shitting out attractive characters Sometimes I forget how retarded Blizzdrones areMy mistake
>>584571212Alliance would've at least gotten some ruins in Azshara. Mudhutters gonna squabble in the mud.
>>584571284>4.9% of the playerbase is a dwarf shaman>5.1% of the playerbase is an undead paladinwhat problem?
>>584571071And we have dishonest, lying cuckolds like you pretending like giving preferential treatment to a very small group of people is the same as messing around with the general playerbase. Don't forget your daily donation so streamerman says your name on camera!
>>584570962DBZ "let's take this away from the cities" ahh arena
>>584571284There wont be a problem
CHECK WOWHEADORC RACIAL GUTTED
>>584571284I guess you alliance trannoids will just have to man up and roll dwarf.
>>584570212So what did Alliance do in Vanilla for raid damage? Eat shit?
>>584571369people tried to goon dwarves during beta.it did not work.
>>584571450Undead chads run the horde
>>584566935Learn engineering idiot.
>>584570962is this new?
>>584571458nothing in vanilla required dps to be anywhere close to optimized to beat it, which is why MC was cleared by people in full greens before they even reached level 60
what's the point of an RP-PVE server anyway?There is no fucking immersion if you aren't permaflagged for PvP
>>584571548Yes
>>584560938every nerf is a stealth buff, nobody was going alch anyway the less people take it the more we can conquer the market
>>584571458They stacked even more warriors because they didn't need a shaman in every party.
PVE servers are just more comfy for me.>be alliance>doing Gath in RR>just 3 of us since it's late>getting fucked by hyperspawn>lvl 30 cow shows up out of no where and tank the room where we had to kill Gath for usHow a druid managed to tank several lvl 26+ elite even at lvl 30 was beyond me but it was still cool as fuck. We thanked him and partied ways, but in a pvp server some shit would have gone down to piss off everyone.
>>584571637You can pretend that you could attack them but choses not to.
>2026>sheen is still doing jump runs while looking miserable
>if you get ganked while leveling on your alt you should hop on your main and gank them backyeah they're gonna be another layer you fucking retard
>>584571683Why didn't they just have more ranged
It's incredible how much of a dogshit poo poo fart shid idea Megaservers are, literally nobody wants them.
>>584571735so hecking wholesome sister
>>584571637You know you can just /pvp right?
>>584568793This happened because people used the Australian/oceania pvp server to roll their other faction.
>>584571637Why do you think all the real rp players are pissed about the exclusion of rp-pvp?
>>584570754Because streamers are running WoWF
>instead of going for twist of light or holy shock you can get an extra 10% holy damage in holy Thoughts? Besides fuck seal twisting
>>584571735Trvke. PVEchads are just better and comfier in every way.
>>584571458Salvation allowed alliance dps to deal more damage by not limiting dps by their threat output. Era was also not balanced around the wclog raid dps meta. WF only becomes a problem when your devs state they're balancing around wclogs. When your stated objective is every class is within a 5% margin in raids then melee MUST be designed around always having WF. This makes them weaker than ranged outside of raids, which is stupid.
>>584571879>instead of getting the strongest holy spell I can get 10% more holy damage on the bad onesyeah I mean sure I guess
>>584571637Have you played the end of base WC3?
>>584570949Yep
>>584571458>>584571919vanilla was fucking retardedwarriors spammed nothing but thunder armor to keep threat on the boss and it still wasn't enough without blessing of salvation
>>584571765dont worry they alleviated all layering pvp worries by saying "they are working on it"
>>584571637You know that in terms of lore, the Horde and Alliance aren't at war in vanilla right?
>>584564925you're definitely ngmi if you think the casual dad gamer spending $300 on rmt gold is gonna have worse gear than you.
>beta ends>could just launch the game since they don't have any feedback for stuff above 30 anyway>mhhhh nah
>>584571879Pointless when you are now missing out on holy damage by skipping your best holy damage spell.
>>584571785I think it would be good if you could also pick a layer and then stay in that layer until you decide to swap layer, and you can only do that in places where you rest.
>>584571879>No Pursuit of Justice>No Holy Shock and 12% holy hitNgmi lad
>>584571653I’m so tempted to ditch tailoring for alch… the money plus the constant buffs from my own pots while leveling sounds awesome, but I want that ez pre-bis I’m told I can get on my priest… fugg…
>>584572050>warriors spammed nothing but thunder armor to keep threat on the bossUhh maybe in 2004, but in 2019 tanks were fury/prot hybrids and ran a full dps rotation.
>>584572108they just launched a new retoilet patch, they cant cannibalize their games
>>584572030How?
>>584571735>being able to go afk/take a piss/eat whatever tf i want whenever i wantthis is the true power of pve server
>>584571436How come my guild has no shaman sign ups then?Check mate atheists.
>>584571992>>584572112the last thread a bunch of people were bitching about holy shock having bad coefficients
>>584571735>>584571786How do I upvote on this website?
everyone should just be able to make their own servers and join whatever they want
>>584572218doesnt change the fact that its still your best holy damaging spell
>>584572343no, it's not 2002 anymore
>>584571879It absolutely baffles me that they knew nobody actually wanted seal twisting so they had to make Shockadin "viable" by butchering the holy tree and filling it with damage talents all and now NOBODY is happy, Seal Twist Haters, Seal Twist Enjoyers and Healers are all mad, just because Esfand said he wasn't gonna play unless they had Seal Twisting.You don't hate streamers enough.
>>584571735umm it woulda been way more cool if it was a 60 druid in full raid gear who started camping the area for 5 hours straightthat's le heckin content
why is the guy who defrauded a construction company and imploded the beta with an extremely dogshit tournament on the PvP episode?
>>584572094There's no formal declaration but there are minor skirmishes. Why do you think you have quests to go kill Horde/Alliance NPCs? Are you just a complete retard that never reads the short quest texts?
>>584572419it fucking should be
>>584572218million times better than>spend all your mana spamming seals just so your auto attacks sometimes deal 30 extra damage
>>584571375>giving preferential treatment to a very small group of peopleThat's what GMs are for anon.https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/The_fate_of_Master_Woo_Ping
what the fuck is this low effort bow shooting animation
>>584571637Because people want to RP in taverns or use rolls to dictate RP combat instead of actual WoW combat. People have made actual DnD style rules for rolls and use it on Moon Guard and there are flags on TRP on if you want your character to not fight and even options for "no character injury" and "no character death"
>>584571436beta spergs are not indicative of live spergs, most people on beta had multiple level 10+ alts which just won't happen w/normies and shaman are pretty terrible lvl 10-20
>>584570962blizzard is desperate and very pathetic
>>584572429Streamers are god awful for game design. They always have the worst takes.
>>584572108brooo zulaman drops on thursday, millions will be going back to Anni TBC
>>584572194>>584571904>>584571786THAT being said I already have a decked out Orc Rogue, I didn't sign up for the PVP Tournament but I do enjoy killing lvl 20s in Duskwoods.I'm just lvling this mage for fun. But I get why some prefer PVE though, also the BG seems to pop way quicker for PVE-Ally than PVP-Horde. I will probably max lvl my Rogue first when the game goes live though.
>>584571548Not really, they used it for Hardcore mak'goras and the SoD PTR patchwerk test thing.
>>584572108They need more time to deploy THE BIG PATCH TM that will unfuck Shamans and make Rogues the best DPS.Aggrend said it's coming and he would never lie.
Found a video of a guy playing elemental shaman in pvp. Looks pretty fun despite him not doing as much damage as enhancement and also running out of mana. Seems like it can be balance with taking the mana regen in combat totems and stacking spirit. Thoughts? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ob5oH27tPM
>>584572597It's the blood elf female bow animation that has been in the game for 19 years. It's one of the better ones.
>He actually thinks some random shitskin from twitch has a say on how a class plays
>>584572094I'm sure all those quests about murdering farmers in Hillsbrad are all just in good fun
>>584572478Other than specific areas of conflict, represented by bgs, horde and alliance do not attack each other on sight in the world.Cry all you want but piles of corpses on the TN lift is not canon.
>>584572834it will surely be buffed because right now ele shaman is worse than in vanilla
>>584572094Not OPEN war, but they're still pretty much in a Cold War
>>584572834enhancement will always be a spec that is 90% middling to bad damage and 10% getting a windfury proc and actually killing someone, doesnt matter what build you do
>>584572882If he has an audience and that audience aren't hatewatchers, yeah, he could have pull.
>>584572940Nobody thinks skelves are cool
>mfw
>>584572940$30I make $90 an hour. Tf do I care about $30 lol. Stop being poor.
>>584572834this looks fucking miserable, holy shitonly good button is fire nova
>>584572940>"Cool race!"No one is saying this
>>584572834I think if you think the class is cool/fun you should play it, balance will change over time.
>>584572973Yes and in the real life cold war if an american and a russian saw each other in Belgrade they didn't start shooting each other.
>>584572940Which reddit did you pull this from friendo?
>>584573054why DID she pot, though?
"hey fatggrend we want RP-PvP""okay here's TipsOut talking about a game he isn't good at and hasn't produced content for in 8 years"
>>584572597blood elves have been shooting like that for 20 years
>wow forever?i sleep.
>>584572940>Classicfags want to admire other people's e-penisMan, I'd say classicniggers need to be genocided but they'll already die out naturally in the next 5 years so
>>584573092>>only good button is fire novaIt's the same for Enh too, Fire Nova is your best ability outside of Windfury procs.
>>584573272>hat on indoors while sleeping
>>584572940>he spent time moving the eye brows of the dwarfdude, go play tf2 or something
>>584573215no you don't understand no one wanted to RP on SoD because it was the streamer server, that means all future RP-PVP servers will SUCK!
>>584573215not a single one of you RP
>>584572940what is this even trying to say
What's the current status on elemental shaman?
>have no idea who this tipsout is>youtube him>first video is some slav clowning on him
>>584573354Yeah, Grok should take a break from editing these images for anon and play a nice relaxing game of TF2.
>>584573215just flag for pvp on the rp server.
>>584573387lol
>>584572940should've used the HD model in the forever square
>>584572871>>584573247you telling me i paid 60 bucks for reskinned bloodelves
>>584573342all balding men become Hat Guys
>>584573387
>>584573496>implying spending your time using AI to make images so you can complain about world of warcraft forever on a tibetian glass blowing forum for attention isn't impressively pathetic
I love all the anons in this general. You all matter to me you just know that. Even if we argue from time to time youre like my second family.
>>584572343illegal in EU
>>584572940Gnomes and Dwarfs are the ugliest race in the game, I refused to play then just so I can play a shaman on alliance side.
Hat indoors.. Rat indoors..And...
>>584573621Idk, I thought it was equally as pathetic as being too lazy to actually take a photograph of yourself lying down so you use AI to generate what that might look like.
>>584573519>just give everyone an easy way to ambush you without them being in any dangerretard
>>584573597ye i guess?dum ass
>>584573597Anon...
>>584573794You do understand that if you attack a flag player you're going to be flagged as well right? Do you even play this game or are you just spouting random bullshit?
>>584573752I would probably kill half the people in here if I could get away with it
>>584570260It's literally some shitty unused crater that's not even in the game because It's so shitty, is he fucking stupid? Also It's a community led event, isn't that what he wanted?
how are people going to 'grief' the pvp tournament? what are some bonehead things that happened on SoD most of us don't know about? I know there is a GCD hack but will anyone be bold enough to go ham with it and get DQd and ruin the whole thing?
>Barny promising a new video before Forever launcheslollmao, even
>>584560565k keeps us posted
>>584573597I would pay $60 for dranei.
>>584573963just morph it bro
>>584573904this is some serious terminal PvE brain
I'd pay $100 for Forever Vulperas
>Aggrend: AV will still have the forces... the depletionAV is getting reinforcements now? what? that totally ruins the BG
>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
>>584573059Many of us have jobs anon but theres still being smart with your money and stupid with it. Yes you have alot, youre still stupid though!
>Mfw I play on the RP ruleset to avoid streamers and then change my language preference to some gobbledygook language so there are only like 10 people in the same layer as me and I actually get to quest
>>584573952He'll get it 90% finished then scrap it like he has his last dozen wow videos.
>>584574069lol unironically same hope you’re seeing this bliz!
>>584573597YesWhat did you think you were buying
>>584573597Do you have eyes?
Where the hell is the maintenance and patch we should be getting today?
>>584574128GOD FUCKING DAMNITTHIS IS SUCH A GAY FUCKING IDEANO REINFORCEMENTS HOLY FUCKWE WANTED OLD AV
wheres the patch
>>584574287Old AV was dead in Classic
Will they make Lights Vigil good?
Do you think BubbleBoyGaming will come back for Forever? He said he's planning something big for November.
i hate to be a doomer but after the podcast today there's a very retail smell in the air around this game. im growing more worried every time they talk about the game.
I'd pay for Horde Draenei
>>584573904>be me, walking with pvp flagged>see some Alliance member without pvp flagged>I can't hurt fight him, so I continue on>he /pvp and /cast Charge immediately as soon as I turn awayretard
I love gnomes.
pilav will kill his dog tommorow
>use fish to craft Fish Bowl>just a bowl, no fish
>>584574381It was a pvp podcast and arena isn't coming to the game. How the fuck does it seem retail???
>>584574381this was always an attempt to reboot retail. Surely you knew this after we got a look at the game?
>>584574417walking talking onaholes
>>584574256at the very least i expected unique animations
>>584573963Horsecock included?
>>584574417why can’t you crank it to goblins like a normal person
>>584574417built for knots
question for anons, any advice would be apprecited.So i love resto druid and feral, but hate boomkin. Will i still have to have a separate gear set for feral with the changes they are making to gear or no?
>>584574549Why not both?
>>584574381
>>584574428Pilav is such a shill loser cuck nowadays
Skelves singlehandedly destroyed Forever's reputation. Blunder of the decade.
>>584574381WoW Forever was made for streamers. Everyone else is just supposed to be there to help them make content.
>>584574584well of course, feral gains zero benefit from any sort of caster gearand will run oom in seconds without caster gear so feral and resto at the same time is basically not possible
>>584574381The only bad part really is them giving streamers any time of day, aside from that I think Forever is looking like a lot of fun
Very disappointed in no rppvp.Gonna be refunding the epic skyborne pack. Not sure if Ill even continue supporting this game with a sub
>>584574381I'm pretty sure if you want to play Classic forever and pretend you're 15 again there's a server just for that.
>no rp-pvp>AV now has reinforcements and is completely ruined
>>584574417tranny post, tranny replies
Why the fuck is the totem placing thing a 3 second fucking cast are they mental
>>584574381Gee, surely it's not because the people that made retail are now making WoWF?
>>584574417I wish they would be the alliance shaman instead of dwarves
In an interview with Windows Central, WOW Forever developer Tim Jones confirmed his desire to bring retail’s player housing system into Wow Forever, with a classic twist.This is completely unacceptable. Player housing has no place in WOW Forever. It’s a terrible system. It pollutes the loot table for drops and quest rewards. It does not encourage socialisation, it will spawn MTX and it is very poorly implemented in retail.We need to make it very clear to the developers that these retail systems are anithetical to WOW Forever, and need to be kept out at all costs.
>>584574734yep i figured that would be the case, ty anon. atleast i know im going to need a feral set at 60 now.
Leaked Arthas voice lines... they're bringing him back...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZQySBH-v_A
>>584574861>Game made by the same people who made WoW shit and played by the same people who made WoW shit>I'm getting some major "WoW is shit" vibes from this
>>584574858because it summons 4 globals worth of totems which is uhh 3 seconds in california i guess
I was watching the new podcast about pvp, and this was in the background? What is in the barrens at this coordinates? I don't have horde character and don't want to spend hours getting there is it's nothingburger. Anyone knows?
>>584574729I just don’t understand why they couldn’t make something that was cool. Why does it have to be stupid looking blue fucking elves. There is nothing cool about elemental elves. The horde NPCs wear these awful looking robes with generic fantasy greebling and feathers, it looks like complete dogshit. All their lines are wind puns. What the fuck is wrong with whoever conceived this shit man
>>584574936If they can somehow get housing into the world without instances, it works. I doubt they can so every other option is shit.
>>584574936i couldn't care less if they do housing as long as they don't attach character power to it and it's entirely cosmetic. people are just gonna bitch and moan for it nonstop like they did with retail until we get it, rather just rip the bandaid off and ignore it entirely once it's released.
>>584574936>people will afk in their house and not orgrimmarwho gives a shit
there will never be another grobit's over
>>584574729The worst thing to me is that most people don't care and accept it. If everyone told blizzard it was unacceptable and no one paid for it we could have had it removed.
>>584575041It's so stupid that my only explanation is that it was a dev trying to torpedo the game out of spite
>>584574412>flagged yourself instead of joining a PVP server like a pussy>surprised when you have to fight people who isn't 10-20 levels below youWTF is your point here? That you're terrible at this game?
>>584575024Your mom LOLZ0rz
>>584575024its mankriks wife
>>584575024>barrens 4.11 9.11it means the devs are going to 9/11 this game in 4/11 next year so they expect it to die in less than 6 months
>>584575024The new streamer PvP arena
>>584575041Blizz knows people love playing as Blood Elves and will pay money to be pretty
Even though there's only going to be three "servers" (rulesets) per region, I'm worried the RP ruleset will still suffer from a small playerbase.Longer PvP queues, lower quantities of shit in the AH, etc.Think it'll be alright? I don't want to cuck myself into some meme server and regret it 2 months from now
aggrend confirmed that streamers and their paypigs killed rp-pvp
>>584574936what they should do is port housing into forever on top of the garrison system.
surely the patch notes will drop by the end of the day, right
>>584575296bg queues are shared between all realm sets
>>584575345No they didnt, Blizzard did lol
>they bring back servers>they name them after streamers since Blizz love them so much
>>584575214The original retarded comment was why don't people who want to pvp in an RP-PvE just flag themselves for pvp in the world and I explained why.
>>584575024theres a new retarded little scripted quest there added in forever where you get to watch 3 characters you will never see again RP with each other for 2 minutes just waiting for the damn quest to complete
>>584575392yes? are you new or just retarded? it's always late thursday when they drop the notes
>RPPVP didnt come about because nobody ever RPd on those servers>people here whining about lack of RPPVP never RPd eitherWhat the fuck you all whining about
>>584575452no they wont
>>584575024That's by the harpies, I think it could be this cabin.
They should use the layering to layer pve players who flag for pvp together and get rid of pvp servers
>>584575395Oh really? Awesome. I figured they'd also be segregated because of that whole idea of "forming communities" or whatever Blizzard said they wanted to push. Same reason why you're more likely to encounter players you've already grouped with beforeGuess the only worry will be the AH, I'm sure grouping will be fine.
>>584575345>>584575424The reason to not have it is because non-rp'ers specifically streamers join and ruin the server. How about Blizzard just bans these people if they ruin the server instead of not having the server?
>>584574412So.... a free Charge? That's the complaint here? You can't beat 1 free Charge?
>>584575024an outhousea literal reTOILET
which streamer will win the tourney?
>>584570260this whole """"""""""beta"""""""""" is balanced around the streamer tourneythe fuckton of bugs everyone is reporting daily wont get fixed prior to launch and you better pray to whatever god there is they fix it later and that your class is played by some kind of streamer
>>584575452I'm going to make so many fond memories on Pikaboo-PvP
>>584575648Sunglitters
>>584575571yeah the pop will be like 1/10th of the PVE server if not even less
>>584575648sneedemfeedem
Sky elves are so retarded that they actually look like an April Fool's joke with Blizzard poking fun at their reputation of making ridiculous elf reskin races. They unironically look like a fake joke race that people would have laughed at. A completely made up race that is an egregious recolor; but it's NOT a joke!
Patch notes are up, some highlights>Holy shock now does up to 90% less damage the closer you are to the target, you will play Esfand's seal twisting build>Lava burst has been removed for Elemental Shaman. This is because Elemental Shaman has been removed>Rogues now deal 1% more damage with backstab criticals at night>Prices of materials from the exotic trade vendor now scales downwards based on your stream views using the new twitch integration feature
>>584575691would be kino
>>584575648The one who found the biggest exploit and bought the most gold.
>>584575586Could you be any more of a disingenuous faggot?
>>584575024aggrend added a toilet?? there's nothing else
>>584575523RP scares off the streamer crowd
>>584575586Why would I want my opponent to have the drop on me? Do I really have to explain why that's not helpful in a PvP fight?Are you actually retarded or just pretending?
>>584575481they should drop them earlier
>entire episode dedicated to streamer fellation and PvP>no weekly patch with updates to the actual gameholy fuck this is grim
>>584575468Vanilla had stuff like this where you turn in a quest to an alchemist and had to wait for the NPC to play the crafting animation to take the followup quest.
>>584575835>I want pvp but only if I have the advantagethis is why every server ends up 99:1 unless the devs interfere
>>584575463I am explaining to you that it's a skill issue. If you're having a hard time when you don't get an opener on someone equal lvl than you then you're just bad at the game.
>>584575648AtomicNiggermare
>>584570962>oh no they're supporting community events
i miss female dreanei, they were so cute and well endowed
Hunter seems like the most fun but I hate playing the most popular class, I'm a special snowflake.
>>584575746So are ogres.
GIVE ALLIANCE ELF SHAMANS
>>584575979
>>584575835You're the only one here to wants an RP-PVP server. Good thing Blizzard never listens to people like you.
>>584576050you could play survival, there wont be any at all
>>584575939idk man I kind of think that whoever gets their opener off first while the target is unaware might have an advantage? idk this is just a theory, we might have to sim it. dumb retard gorilla nigger
>>584576050It's only most popular because it's a level capped beta that people were desperately farming gold in and hunter always over-performs in that environment by nature of how pets and glancing blows work. I would wager at least 50% of the beta hunter population is just alts for farming. Hunter will be popular, it always is, but mage and warrior will still be most played and oversaturated by a mile.
Can't we just make a separate ruleset only for Streamers and autoban then whenever they roll anywhere else?
>>584575932Yeah, that's the RP part, retard. I am playing the role of a road bandit, I don't want some invulnerable faggot spoiling that by always getting the first move.>>584575939I am making the assumption that all things are equal in all other ways. I understand you're a disingenuous nigger, but try and post better bait.
i am a redneck and my dwarf hunter will be named Choot Em and I will have the alligator as my pet
>final week of the beta>no patchoof
>>584576125>for another $30 you can play as another elf but this time in Shaman and Warlock maybe
>>584576228you know we can't anon, you know we fucking can't
>>584575845Can't do updates now and mess with the tournament
>>584574936When will you mazed rats realize that this game isn't made for you. It's made to milk money out of you.>You will buy the dlc races>You will buy the dlc mounts>You will buy the dlc player housing decor>You will buy the dlc expansion>You will buy the $15 a month subscription>You will buy the race change>You will buy the character boosts>You will buy the WoW TokenYou will be happy.
>>584572871It's really bad. She barely half draws the bow.
>US west coastI might still take the EU pill and play there. I do not want to share an ecosystem with streamers and their orbiters.
>>584576283We shouldAnd it needs to be PvP only
>>584575746>We want high elves!>OH? YOU WANT *HIGH* ELVES? HERE YOU GO THESE ELVES ARE SO, SO HIGH THEY'RE FROM THE SKY! HAPPY NOW?
>>584576205First of all if you're flagging yourself you should already be aware of your surroundings.>>584576271Good thing Bliz didn't care enough to listen to your whiny ass.
>>584576347You're not as insightful as you believe you are
I don't know what everyone's complaining about, these lightning bolt crits are hitting pretty hard
After watching the new podcast I've realised aggrend is actually based. I never knew a fat ret paladin player enjoyed wpvp so much
>no improved dwarf racials
>>584575523RPPVP is a lot less sweaty
>>584576271Then join a PVP server and you can RP in your head that you're an asshole.
>>584576481Morbidly obese paladin players are the primary audience of WPvP, actually.
>>584576489theyre waiting until after the duel tournament for the patch, the devs have a lot of money riding on the class that they made OP on purpose
>>584576434>You're not as insightful as you believe you aredespite all your rage you're still just a rat in a maze
>>584576050exactly the same as me. I'm going balance druid instead
>>584576457277 is not a lot
>>584576425The point, retard, is that the other side is invulnerable to you and can choose the engagement on their terms, invalidating any possible reason for flagging yourself first.Think, please, before subjecting us to your drivel.>>584576507Ah, you're just butthurt you got ganked once. Stick to the PvE servers and you can stay safe and sound lil gup
>>584576489There's been no patch yet
>>584575746Sadly because ten or so troonies on Twitter are already in love with their Sky elves and making art of them they will ignore the fact that they contradict everything about Classic and their stated intentions of staying true to the fundamentals of WC3 and Classic>"But guys they are from Dire Maul! That's Classic. They are using Classic words for their OC race!"So were DracqueerLets face it. Even if we made noise it will be canceled out by the few who actually like Sky Elves because it feeds into Blozzards ego. Worse is that some of them only like Skyborne because it "owns le chuds!!"
>>584576687there wont be one
>>584576457My hunter pet wind serpent can crit with his lightning bolt for that much
Post >yfw they wont release a balance patch today because they dont want to upset the streamer tournament fuckheads
>>584576678You're the one whining about getting ganked in an RP server.
>>584576551real sex having men are the primary audience or world pvp. That means aggrend gets more sex than you, lmao!
>>584576692The fundamentals of WC3, like introducing bullshit new mary sue elves from a continent that was never even hinted at in the lore of the previous games.
wtf is her problem
>>584576457this guy could do 3 times that dmg by equiping a 2hander and getting a windfury procc on an autoattackthat is absolute shit dmg for a 2 second cast
>>584576050You definitely are special if you think hunter is most fun
>>584575823Kekk, good to know. Glad i didn't waste my time going there. Nice Troll Aggrend
>>584576817dragon breeding sow getting uppity
>>584576719What's the point of the fucking beta then?
>Mages have been given a new spell, Fingers of Fingers of Frost, a new talent point that causes your next Fingers of Frost to proc Fingers of Frost
>>584576817dragon shit test
>>584576781Try again, I know English isn't the easiest second language to learn.
>>584576885hype train
>We're gonna do a pass on racials!>We're gonna do a pass on Shaman after we moved their spell crit damage really far down the ele tree!>We're gonna do a pass on Rogues to make them do the biggest top damage!Ok so when though the game is out in 3 weeks.
>hmm I think I'll play PvE>immediately invalidates half of the game at character creation>can't make friends or play with anyone cause people only log in for raid nightwow so cozy
>>584576885money
>>584576805Actually. Yes.The Niggelves were also a problem.But that doesn't mean we should accept new problems.
>>584576885The beta is for a streamer tournament
>>584576972Stop whining and go back to retail if Forever is too hard/intimidating for you.
>>584576050People don't know how to play hunter. This is more evident by people complaining about survival hunter being too op. It was always op especially if you took some beast master talents lmao. Aimed shot is a meme btw. People think combat traps are OP when in original classic you could just make a macro and feign death+place trap and essentially do the same thing.
Where's the racial patch?
Chain heal has to have the most unfitting sound for any ability in the gamethe animation sucks too, how did they go from warcraft 3's chain heal to thatthunderclap's sound compared to warcraft 3's also sucks now that I think about it
>>584576817To this day I'm surprised she wasn't named something dumb like Usurpula McEvil, her brother is literally named Victor Nefarius.
>>584577019As soon as their handlers (streamers) finish their little money laundering project and tell them its okay
>>584577176dude don't worry about it just have fun with the beta!
>>584576692>Worse is that some of them only like Skyborne because it "owns le chuds!!"this is the whole reason I made a vulpera
When are they going to fix dwarf armor and idle animations?
Where's the racist patch?
>>584576692Technically Skyborne don't break anything. They're a faction of high elves that has been isolated from the world.
>>584577208They changed all the shaman healing spells into water themed on retail long ago. In classic its just a mishmash of druid spell animations and the chain heal that looks like a holy spell
>>584577473>>584577473
>>584575024 Orc blacksmitch npc near harpy area has human boyfrien... I mean friend that lives on top of the mountain. Kultiras don´t like that gay shit and try kill both of them, you save them. They give good gun and other stuff.
>>584576457*ice lances you for 500 damage*
>>584577079>if you don't let your enemies get advantages over you, you're retail
>>584577508That 500 crit takes SKILL! Nevermind no other class can reach such numbers.
>No rppvp >No av>No reason to do dungeons past 1 time before 60Looking grim
>>584579349What's the status on arathi? Hated the fuck out of anniversary classic locking arathi for months. Such a retarded decision. Ended up unsubbing and never getting to play it.
I swear rhis nigger Shadetooth is the biggest noobfilter in the beta so far
>>584577314The HD model doesn't shrink your beard when wearing a full faced helmet, so it needs the fatter helmet to avoid clipping. So probably never on the helmet
>>584574381WoWF is them rebooting retail and trying to trim out some of the mistakes they've made to attract the audience they alienated with retail. It will gradually become more like retail over time.
