>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Previous Thread >>584552954
WE WANT VULPERA!
>>584577473How do I most effectively grief the dueling tournament?
im a nost vet
get yourself a night elf hunnie that looks at you like this
>>584577519
Kill all streamers unironically
>>584577591im a feenix vet
Uhhh is there a PvP /vg/ guild?
>>584577663Agreed
This is your final warning, Blizzard.Add the sexy space goats.Or perish.
>>584577629>vulpera gets ganked by group of human paladins
Alright where is everyone going for their first troon.PVP - Horde here
>>584577568it's invite only, physically inaccessible and even then its all in the same faction so you cant really influence anythingit would have to be limited to stuff like guild invite spam, party invites and whispers and that's about it
>>584577663Why do streamers live rent free in your head? Why are WoW players so obsessed with streamers and intimately aware of what they’re doing despite saying they don’t like them?
>>584577568Whisper people who are streaming slurs.
>>584577681based. I still remember <The Vidya> on emerald dreamdeavow..pyritie..rustydoorknob.. the gm night elf rogue whose name I forgot..
>>584577807PvEAllianceHuman PaladinAsmongold stream on 2nd monitor
>>584577862he just wants streamers to be killed why is this supposed to be a big deal?
>>584577607I need a nelf wife badly
>nerfing honor from av>buffing honor from the other bgsSo AV is dead in Forever?
>>584577568 By going in the discord and making wild accusations
>>584577807EU realm, PVP Alliance - white male heterosexual warrior
>>584577779Paladins don't wear black, those are death knights.
>>584578045WTF are you trying to say here?
>>584577987>no puddle under hermissed opportunity
>>584577807pve horde
>>584577987shoot for any amount of human warmth first>>584577807troll priest PvP
>>584577568You can't do that, Blizzard will perma you for interfering with their sacred cows.
>>584577987become the nelf wife
>>584577807RP Horde
>>584577751Um, that's a child
>>584578113yeah, there was no need to repeat himself, its like saying "horde faggot cocksucker", like yeah dude we know ok good for you man we get it, ok dude yeah cool you play horde and like to suck cocks cool story bro
>>584577807Pve horde Undead paladin
>No RP PvPGoodGet rid of RP servers tooThey are just recruitment grounds for the castration cult looking to indoctrinate people into thinking that mutilating your genitalia is normal and "heccin valid!!"
>>584577807Horde RP or PvE. If Rp is dead pve then.
>>584577862>devs balance the game around streamers>"but how does this affect you personally?"Eat a dick
>>584578431Oh no the americans are awake
There should not be any rewards from PvP. No legacy points, no cheevos, no mounts, no mogs. Nothing from PvP. The devs are not balancing around PvP so it should just be a minigame, and stay that way.
>>584577473What am I looking at?
you fucks are so retarded, I'll make an actual census standby
>>584577473This community has lost their mind. I've never seen people more vindictive of RMT before. Nobody was this loud and vocal during Wrath classic or during classic anniversary. But now, blizzard ignores the bots and punishes the players for trading, everyone is cheering. Anyone who sees a morsel of problems with this system, you are called an RMTer. What's worse is people who only care about streamers. I don't give a shit about streamers or gold buyers. Now blizzard is policing how I want to play the game. First they ban me for a mean name. Then they change the classes. Nerf AOE. Nerf dungeons. Now they want to ban all trades and some even want to ban selling services. There are people who say that its not normal to be traded any amount of gold. I've been playing MMOs since 2002 and I've gifted and received countless sums of in-game currency to and from friends. In classic WoW I would loan money to friends all the time and they would pay me back in the mail. I've sent hundreds of gold in the mail. I've never bought gold in my life. I'm sick and tired of people telling me how to play or what is normal. MMOs are for making your own choices and playing how you want. Whatever this is, is not an MMO. WoW Forever is a garbage game. Garbage design, and it's for weak bitch made pussies that cry to blizzard because they are jealous of better players than themselves.
>>584578431RP servers are basically empty except one in retail. They're 100% empty in Classic. Fuck those weirdos.
>>584577807PVPUNDEADMALEROGUENO JAWBLINDEDSPIKY HAIRDAGGER ASSASSIN
>>584578352a sexy space goat child
playing horde is reddit
>>584578704Two actually.Moon Guard and Wyrmrest
>fell for the "bro roll on the RP server, there's no politics or streamers it's gonna be great!!" meme>AH is constantly empty>can't find any groups>takes 20 minutes to do ANYTHING because the three players online are mentally ill and must emote every action and act out entire scripts first>people (grown men) keep trying to ERP with meWhy'd I do it? Why couldn't I just play on regular PvE like everyone else... ?t. posting from December
>there really isnt a patch todayhow can they afford not doing a weekly patch with the state the game and certain specs are in right now?what are they smoking there?this whole beta really was just a scam and to suck the cocks of streamers and their tournamenti made 50+ bug reports since beta started (majority of those are still in the game btw) and all they talk about is the fucking dogshit tourney i fell for it again bros, i really did
>>584578710i dont remember making this post
No patch today to cater to the PvP tournament LMAOOOOOO
RESTART YOU'RE BNET CLIENT IT'S HAPPENING
>>584578545rejected random inaccessible area from hiyal that they will repurpose as a makeshift duelling arena just for the beta
>>584578431just so you know, reading posts like this makes me want your side to lose the culture war
>>584578806Because you're a weirdo that likes to play dress-up and pretend you're a girl.
>>584578869Oh, interesting. Thanks!
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
>>584578929Too bad. We're already winning because your side is insufferable and objectively evil for propegating things like the castration cult
>No transfers between PvE and PvP (ever)>No plans for a RP-PVP ruleset>The layering system will continue to be improved>They want to maintain PvE gear overlap in PvP>They'll find ways to keep resource scarcity in the open world to incentivize PvP >They'll add and re-work open world pvp objectives like towers and events>Possible incentives to raid main cities>No punishment for camping or griefing in pvp>AV will no longer be optimal honor per hour (thank fuck)>Solo-queue BGs. Premade vs premade. (what about partial groups?)>No time-out in WSG>Wargames will exist if premades want to fight eachother>WSG high-level strategies will be mostly untouched unless found to be game breaking>New custom dueling area for community events (inaccessible without GM help)
>>584577807PVE Dorf ShadmanThe better question is what is your planned early leveling route?>Dun Morogh, Loch Modan, Darkshore, Westfall DM interlude, Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountains, STV (via Ratchet)
>>584578978
>>584579041alex is too much of a pussy to take harsh words said about him, he is not here
So what did they say about world PvP events in the recent podcast?
>>584578806>t. never played on an RP server in his lifeftfy lil gup
>4chan is so contrarian they play on the faggot faction alliance lol
>>584579047>hey let's GvG>okay cool>get stuck in separate layers
Let's all have a blast
>>584579047>Wargames will exist if premades want to fight eachotherthis feature will never get used. the one thing pvp players hate more than anything is going against a team that's actually good>Solo-queue BGs. Premade vs premade. (what about partial groups?)They should just remove group queues for bgs entirely.
>>584579284>The layering system will continue to be improved
>>584579043it’s spelled propagating and the pendulum is swinging
>>584579162basically nothing, they are aware that all of the previous attempts like in silithus barely did anything and they are "looking into it"
>>584579107this thread is his kingdom
>>584579313I could see it happening. Maybe a league or something.
>no rppvp because estafand and his spic clique ruined crusader strikeIt's over
ACTUAL FORLO CENSUS SURVEY THAT CAN PROVIDE REAL INFORMATION AND ISN'T BASED ON VIBES:>https://poal.me/l37iai>https://poal.me/gqwaav>https://poal.me/1fi7yodo NOT answer if you're expecting to switch anything after the incoming racial balance patch
So if it's beta, does that mean everyone will have to start back at level 1 on launch day? Please say yes.
>>584579372Wrong. Alex stopped streaming on youtube a few days ago because the comments were too much for him to take. He stays on his twitch safe space.
>>584579313>this feature will never get used. the one thing pvp players hate more than anything is going against a team that's actually goodWhat is henhouse>They should just remove group queues for bgs entirely.Yeah we all know you have no friends
>>584579510Yes
>>584577953Deavow went full incel
>>584577807RP-PvEFemale Gnome Warlock
>>584579510no anon..we get to keep our characters..you don't have a 30 of each class yet?
>>584578620truke
Pvp servers are going to be dogshit with the megaserver garbage
>>584579510unfortunately you start back at level 1, so there's no point playing right now
>Alterac Valley is going to have reinforcements AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFUCKING RETARDED
>>584579290Iconic
>>584578806>Fell for the "Bro just play on a PvE server, RP servers are dead af and for gays!!!" meme>Bots camping everything 24/7>Can't get into any groups without joining a discord to do secret GDKPs>Takes 20 minutes to get ONE item for a quest because 300 humans are camping the quest for Asmongold>People (indians) constantly talking about politics in every single chat channelWhy'd I do it? Why'd I let a greentext from someone who doesn't even play the game on the 15th of October convince me to play on the asmon layer simulator...?t. posting from December
>>584579705Personally I’ve been having a blast!
>>584579501put this in the next bake desu
>>584579047>GUYS HORDE INC TO STORMWIND GATHER AT THE GATES!!!!>Invader raid runs through defender raid and teleports into different shardJust as I remember in 2005
Alliance is now dwarf and it's beautiful.You will beg for the windfury totem.
>>584579352If they don't have some world PvP event(s) at launch I'll be pretty disappointed. At a minimum making Silithus and Eastern Plaguelands actually good PvP zones/events would be a great start only made better if they make brand new events like they did in SoD. Unfortunately my expectations are low.
>>584579501Kill yourself data farmer
>>584579561>Yeah we all know you have no friendsOh nooo, you'll have no way to do premades vs randoms so you're lashing out. That sucks...
where are the racial changes
Imagine watching streamers like a cuck and a faggot
*taps sign*Reminder that if you still give blizzard money you are bitchmade
>>584579735I want AVs that last forever just like the good old days
>subscription is R$55 per month damn sondo I also get a free GF of any wow race alongside with it or something lol
>>584579895>check box that says I won’t say niggeretc
>>584579735Why would they do this?
>>584579925>>584579735Even classic never get the original version from vanilla with all the generals and captains.
>>584579047>No time-out in WSGTime to AFK farm
>>584579895>names toon “rape niggers”>acts surprised when he gets bannedwhat did u expect?
>>584580002why are you such a lonely sorry cunt that can't stand the word?
>>584580001what kind of money is thatalso imagine not having played warlords of draenor for infinite gold lol
>>584579818i never played sod but apparently there was some ashenvale event that was exceptionally well received, so they artificially tried attaching some mechanics and resources to it and it immediately went to shit, in essence they have no idea what to do really
>>584579895>Reminder that if you still give blizzard money you are bitchmadeAgreed.>PicThat's just the "ToS: don't say niggerniggernigger" meme. With a jak to boot.Instead of banned you should be shot.
Ι am not gonna play until they add Goblins. Yep, no sub money from me!
I haven't played in a very long time. Am I still allowed to talk about purging the world and slaughtering all greenskin filth?
>>584580084It's none of your fucking business what my name is, mind your own damn business you little bitch. You deserve to be thrown in a fucking ditch, food for the worms.
>>584577807PVE HordeSkyborne Druid
>>584580001Your GF will be an overweight man
>>584579925experiencing a multi day AV once is enough for a lifetime. It's a total meme and everyone actually playing hates it
What are the chances they actually fix the rogue SM gold printing quest?
>>584580013Likely because WoW is full of faggots that bitch that it "takes too long!" It's the same fuck heads that threw a bitch about the fun wrath of the lich king launch even which is why fun shit like that never happened againFor PvP fags this game is only meant to be played in small 2v2/3v3/5v5 arena or duals 1 on 1, only meta knight, final destination
>>584580178You are a nigger lover. Blow your fucking head off with a shotgun please.
forever died when roachman said he was going to play on the pve servers because he was afraid of sodapoppin raping and gaping olympus chuds all day every day, no reason to play this game now that you can't camp those losers and keep them dead
prot war sisters, is there any way to properly hold blizzard aggro?
>>584580203Probably not. You should be more worried about killing bots if you play pvp. I had some fun killing bots outside ZF and they mass reported me and got me permabanned. I had to make about 10 tickets over 2 weeks with every ai/Chinese gm saying the decision was final and that I was botting until I got unbanned lmao.
>>584580362>>584580013>>584579735just look at the current pvp tournament happening and how much of a headache there is because a bunch of autistic streamers are obsessing over random bullshit and how >"nothing is fair! fix it fix it fix it!"
>>584580404Back to the sharty, teen
>>584580424>sodapoppinunironically the biggest faggot of all the streamershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAdB8IEb_o&t=105s
>shamans are the helping hands of meele>Disc priest are the helping hands of castersDidn't know wow players were into that
woah...
>>584580424it's better for asmon to fill the worthless pve server with his 50k tards than to bloat the pvp server and then create a giant hole in the alliance when he inevitably leaves after two weeks
>>584580510does your mommy and daddy know they raised such a pussy that needs to tell on people with bad names?
my female night elf priest will be doing alot of AVs (adult videos)
so it’s gonna die before naxx isn’t it?
>>584579863wdymI like the premade vs premade matching because the only 10 man premades I did in classic were for ranking. Now that there's no reason to sweat I can just solo queue and do BGs with a couple friends without running into constant premades. And considering there's no sweat involved, even if I felt like doing 10 man premades, I'd want them to be even as I wouldn't be doing them for the extrinsic rewards. Stomping pugs is quite boring and it's only a good thing if your aim is something other than the actual pvp.Hopefully you can find some friends in the game because there's not going to be a dungeon finder or lfr for you either.
>game comes out in 20 days>lets postpone balance change testing for a streamer tournamenti mean the game is just doomed lol
>>584580569did thrall shit himself?
>>584580002>>584580084They shouldn't have a social contract. Private corporations shouldn't be free to do whatever they want. They should do what I want.
>>584580634hopefully
>>584580508gas all streamers
To the Architects of Azeroth/ devsMay the Eternal Light guide your hands, and may the wisdom of the original creators preserve the true soul of this world.I write to you today as a servant of the Light, deeply troubled by the recent design decisions surrounding the Skyborne in the WoW Forever beta. It has come to the attention of the faithful that your current justification for restricting the Skyborne from walking the priestly way is a blanket decree that they are a strictly “atheist” and anti-religion society.With respect, stripping a fantasy race of its spiritual agency to enforce a forced, sterile narrative feels less like authentic world-building and more like a symptom of a modern, woke agenda. Classic Warcraft was built upon absolute moral authorities and deep, immutable faith be it the Holy Light, Elune, or the elements. When you remove a race’s ability to seek higher divine truths, you turn the developers into the sole arbiters of who is allowed to be accepted by the Light.Furthermore, from a pure gameplay perspective, this decision leaves Horde players severely restricted to only Trolls and the Undead for Priests, while the Alliance gains yet another option in Gnomes. Sacrificing faction balance and individual player freedom for a forced, anti-religious cultural mandate serves no one. Even in a secular society, there will always be individual outcasts who reject their people’s isolation to answer a higher, divine calling.I implore you to look upon the Skyborne with favor and reverse this decision. Do not let real-world ideological mandates compromise the spiritual integrity of Azeroth. Open the path of the Priest to the Skyborne, and allow the Light to shine across all corners of this world.So please, for the sake of all that is holy, open your eyes to the truth and the light! Do not lock away the priestly way just to pander to a small group of people that just hate God.
Katrina Prestor should be purified by Bolvar's Fordragon cock in Forever
>>584580404Don't you have Israeli cock to suckle, migatard?
problem with no wsg timer is that a stacked team can capture 1 flag and then camp your graveyard for an hour. the other team can’t do anything except exit the bg and eat a leaver penalty. even with the premade queue you’ll still regularly get solo q lobbies that are unevenly stacked
>>584580404>>584580597rightoids like this wont even feel safe to type this crap in private soon lol
I have it from a good source that Blizzard is planning to release Warlords Classic and Wotlk Anniversary if Forever doesn't meet their expectations (financially)
>>584580634Maybe? Naxx is going to be super far aheadThe release raids dont even include molten core, its 2 new ones and Ony
>>584577807RP EUFemale Dwarf enhancement shaman
>>584579925No you don't.We got the occasional turtle AVs in classic too and literally no one liked them.
>>584580646blizzard is pathetic, I can't stand this anymore
>>584580646Bro why do you care about the game being made for streamers so much just ignore them bro lmao just ignore every decision blizzard makes being attuned specifically to a small minority of the playerbase, half of which won't even play the game after their sponsored segment ends
>>584580712god whoever wrote this needs to die immediately
>>584580086projecting
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302099https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302099https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302099
>>584580839i liked them, they were fun, the zoomer-meta was cancer and i hated it. I have no respect for what the 'meta' was in classic, when all too often it was min-maxing, soulless horseshit.The same spergs crying about an AV match taking too long, boosted their entire way to max level, they have my contempt and i do not value their opinions at all.
Is mage honestly even fun to play? You just stand there casting fireballs like a fucking nerd.
>>584577807Horde PvPHide your oak doors
foreverbros.......................... aion2 chads are laughing at us again....................................................
>>584580821ew toilet model
>third world wakes up>doomer posts rise substantiallynoticing
>>584580137>in essence they have no idea what to do really
>>584580815Youve seen nuMC right? Imma go out on a limb here and say itll be completely different from the MC youre all used to :). I expect every old raid to be completely reworked, after-all; theyll need content for the pros to race!
>>584580984It's not about it being a zoomer meta, its because they used a version of AV that was changed at the very tail-end of vanilla. The BG was objectively different back in the day.
>>584580963>look inside>twist of light still thereno thanks
more like aion who lmoa
WHERE IS THE RACIAL NERF NEWS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGERS
>>584580815Oh boy we can go into molten fucking core already decked out in full epics - that's the REAL Vanilla experience....
>>584581001no we're fullplay warrior they have big weapons you'll be permanently dazzled
patch cancelled due to streamers
>>584580963Everyone rise up! Aggrends class, the main characters of wow forever, paladins are on the topic today.
>>584580963yea, holy is doa.
>>584581051few hours ago it was the burgers waking up and thus the thread going to shitfew hours from now will be the european or sea or the chinese or whatever
>>584581180right after fatgrends friends tournament is over :)
>>584581245It wouldnt make much difference, both versions of classic people cleared MC in nanoseconds
>tell us a racial patch is coming>specifically don't play the game for a week to not burn myself out>just waiting for the server slam and racial changes to test a launch environment>patch day comes>cricketsfucking amazing
>>584580821based dark iron enjoyer
>>584580963Is this the first class deep dive?
>>584580305pls respond
>>584580963>Still pushing le shockadin meme cause they know people hate their shitty half assed seal twisting talentI'm so glad both ret and holy have to share suffering because of this talents existence, a true bond will be formed with all paladin brothers
>>584581323Its still the burgers coming in and turning the threads to shit. We had a good thing all day but not its just doom and trannyposting
>>584581245sweat guilds world first clear of MC had a heap of people in the mid level 50s and most were wearing greens.
I hated the fact they locked arathi in classic anniversary for like 6 months in classic anniversary. I unsubbed and never got to play it. Are they doing the same retarded plan of locking out a lvl 30 fucking battleground for half a year?
Be the change you want to see, refund for no RP-PvPAs I’ve seen others doing, I’m going to vote with my wallet. Refunding the $80 skyborn pack as I’m don’t playing beta and have no interest in shelves.Initially I purchased it just to support wow forever. None of the retail or transmog stuff appealed to me, neither did blue elves, I was simply grateful for something resembling classic+.But as my preferred ruleset is not only not available, but active being insulted by the devs, I don’t believe my $80 is warranted.I encourage anyone else that feels so inclined to do the same. No, this won’t really affect their bottom line, but it’s the only way we can say something that they understand.Cheers.
>We are looking to expand on the original lore of Warcraft >Nothing in Forever would have looked out of place in 2004
>>584581432this is what happens when you give a psychopath streamer carte blanche to design a class
>that was the last weekly podcastit's over party people
>>584577568maybe you can trick them into getting disqualified
>>584581440>Why are Americans coming on an American website?!Why dont you go to eurocuck 4chan instead? Oh wait, your shitty country would jail you for that.
>>584581514>>584581432>>584580963It's really funny seal twisting is so unpopular that ret pallys will just skip it for holy shock lol
>>584579047>>No time-out in WSGHuh? They never gave a definitive stance on this. Instead they said something like "we will do what makes the most sense" and also they said they a part of their PvP philosophy is they don't want one side to be able to monopolize anothers time. If anything it sounds like there will be some kind of timeout.
Foreverbros.... it's over!
>>584581619yep I'm moving to crusader kings until launchI can't be bothered to log in for more than 30 seconds
>>584581514what are you even talking about
i hate niggers and this game has alot of niggers
I think the shitpost meta of reddit reposts is getting stale
is this guy on the podcast tim jones the guy that told the chuds to be better and then the chuddamaggedon insued?
>>584581432Seal twisting is retarded because it's an exploit same as totem twisting, but because the design lead doesn't main Shaman only the latter gets deleted. Stupid, clunky and unthematic to Paladin's core concepts. Maybe they should give Prot aura twisting.
>>584577787Technically it wouldn't even take a full rage execute to match that damage
>>584581350They also said that rogues were getting big buffs and enh shaman was getting compensation for them losing the ele crit damage talent. Don't worry, after the streamer tournament (STREAMERS DON'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE GAME DESIGN OK THEY JUST DON'T) we'll get our big patch for sure and also be unable to actually test it because it was delayed for the streamer tournament that I will once again remind you has ZERO impact on the game design because I said so with a smug anime girl image on a nerubian silkweaving forum.
>>584581514Esfand didn't invent seal twisting
>>584580404>You are a nigger lover.Guilty as charged
>>584581707What did they say about AV? I haven't had a chance to look but I'm hoping its just the doom jeet exaggerating that they are doubling down on the modern AV reinforcement bullshit for quick boring matches
>>584581513>druid druidNice sloppa anon
So for anyone who hasn’t paid attention the devs have confirmed on multiple occasions now that the game will still follow a vertical progression system with every subsequent raid dropping more powerful gear.They have chosen to ignore what horizontal progression is as defined by the genre and make up their own definition - staying level 60 forever and having “chase items” in older weaker tiers constitutes “horizontal progression” to these devs.They have announced by next summer we will have 7 raids active with each tier being a power increase over the last so no, if you heard their pitch about taking a break and coming back - you cannot do that because you’re gear is still being obsoleted.They even discussed “soft resets”
>>584581513Why do you keep posting this slop when you could easily take a screencap of the character creation screen. You aren't some poorfag, are you?
How bad will horde pve be with asmongoy on the other faction?
>join BG to craft a ton of water for free>leavenot my problem
>>584581513For me its Skelf (Druid) (2)
>>584581893devs are retarded they removed imp wf and soe totem. now every shaman will be forced to go resto cause ele is dogshit and provides no buffs and enhance while better is still dogshit and provides no buffs that a resto would not bring. enhance should have imp totems and ele should have totem of wrath
I got 300g I would happily give away to duel tourny guys for consumes but I cant cos i'm alliance \o/
>>584581950made for human and dwarf cock
these are the "questing is good, dungeon is bad" people that you'll going to play with in wow fogeverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VphyDc3H5lI
>>584577807PvE Alliance, euro.1. Fem dwarf enhancement shaman2. Fem gnome disc priest3. Male human paladin or Fem gnome warrior, not sure yet
>>584577807Ibidi Badmon, Troll Warlock, will be on RP - Horde.
Why do Skelves have Druid? I thought druidism was all lowborne magic that the highborne explicitly turned their noses up against.
>>584582042how would it literally matter to a horde player at all? it's the bubble wrap server. all the olympus players would be taken from the pool of alliance pvp players, not horde pve players
>>584581471That never happened. I said vanilla, as in, 2004.
how come OG wow (vannila, tbc, wrath) didn’t take player feedback into account yet the expansions were amazing, but now with hundreds of hours of data, streamers etc.. the game becomes trash?
>>584579047>New custom dueling area for community events (inaccessible without GM help)This is just going to be for streamer and discord shit. I could organize a guild v guild competition, each sending their strongest players, using the literal in-game communication and I would get no help because I'm not a fucking streamer or discord admin
>>584582184QRD on Forever disc priest?
>>584582321The goyim are insane.
>>584582168Based. She sounds way nicer to play with than dungeon spammy faggys
>>584580712A sky-burial is a spiritual sending-off of the dead by bringing the dead body up into the mountains and giving the carved up body to the creatures of the sky. I will accept these Skyborne priests and only these.
>>584582456she wont let you hit it lil bro
>>584582321they used to employ white men who understood what made rpgs appealing, now they employ millennials who want to teach you how to be a better orc
>>584582235because heccin little blue owl chomker, that’s why
>>584582321millennials are a literal fucking curse
>>584581038this actually looks like wow you tunnel brained simpleton.>>584580821>>584581362it's crazy how on point all of those heritage sets were despite coming from the worst expansion\ and for some reason it all just went downhill.
Sad that people have literally rewritten even WoW raid history.All the world firsts in the early days were by NA guilds. Not E.U. faggots.>Molten Core was released with the original game and remained undefeated 154 days, which is still the longest an endboss has survived in WoW's history. Every single MC world first was and is held by NA.
>>584582530>white men
We neee Blorcs and BlelvesMaybe even Blaenei
Where are the balance notes?
>>584582503Watch me
>>584580782You won't do shit pussy
>>5845819944/10 AI summary post. I appreciate the stilted format and keeping important buzz terms in quotes. "Obsoleted" is also a nice stylization.
>>584582321>didn’t take player feedback into accountYes it did. Next question?
i don't wanna play dwarf shaman fuck off
>>584582671the best you can have is a paladin deep dive, sorry bud but this is a paladin's world
>>584582168Playing WOW on a gamepad seems incredibly difficult to my kb+mouse coded brain. So fucking many button combinations and the stuff on screen helps fuck all
>>584582656nobody said anything about that
>>584582662>green eyes>not white
>>584582235Because modern Blizzard doesn't know their own lore, and the kike nigger trannies in charge don't care to fix that. Buy the slop and shut up.
>>584582235From what I can gather, the group of highborne that eventually became the sky elves learned druidism over the course of their rebellion against the higborne in shen'dralarSo their rebellion was not a single event but a conflict of some yet to be determined lengthThe skyborne druids even have their own group, the Nightclaw
I kinda wanted to have a steamdeck........................................... too bad I know how bad the hardware in it is, I really hoped steamdeck 2 would be good but the hardware was already leaked and it's meh, I'll have to wait for the 3, it'll come out with half life 3
>we're not getting old AV>they going to pander to the pvp tournament faggots and use reinforcements because whiney millennial low test faggots don't enjoy the battle lasting for hours and days Why is this generation so low test.
>>584582739explain
>we dont balance around the pvp tournament>built a zone for the tournament with a vendor>nerfed quest items that otherwise would never be touched by a level 30 organically>delayed the weekly patch for a few days while the tournament happens>aggrend sends everyone to a toilet in durotar
>>584582656Look up wow's release date in NA and in EU.
weave bros we're back
>>584582235While the Quel'dorei / High Elves in Eastern Kingdoms were majority Highborne nobility caste exiled from Kalimdor for casting Arcane storm melties, the proto-Skyborne of Eldre'thalas consisted of both Highborne nobility (which form the foundation of the High Order Alliance faction organization), and citizen-level non-nobility, which did include druids from up by the capital sent down to spread news/the teachings of druidism.
you pick berries for a living, shut the hell up and let the paladins speak
FOREVER HYPE FOREVER HYYYYYYYPETSIKUSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>584582941av should be a pvp version of a raid, games should last no less than an hour and more than likely 2-3 hours
>>584582761for solo pve is probably easy enough, you don't need to use a ton of buttons
>>584583003>elemental
They should've kept Sunken Temple as a raid.
>>584582951The current state of retail is 20+ years of listening to player feedback. RDF, more accessible raids, summon stones, horde paladin / alliance shaman, et. al didn't spawn out of the ether of Blizzard's whims.
>>584582761You won't have 4 keys dedicated to movement for the start. Use a trigger or bumper button combo to use different spells on the same button (the same as using shift or control).
>>584583078FUCK LAVA BURSTGIVE ME THUNDER SHOCKLET MY THUNDER SHOCK TRIGGER CHAIN LIGHTNINGLET MY LIGHTNING BOLTS TRIGGER LIGHTNING SHIELD
>>584583078Sorry anon, but unless any streamers start playing Ele shaman you're fucked.
>>584583003>pally is the best at literally everything while having the best buffs that last an hour as well>shaman is dogshit and has worthless totems that last 5 seconds and have a range of 5 feetcant say im not shocked
>>584583003Fury warriors at the top, were all the warriors acting like their own personal apocalypse was happening for nothing?
>>584580963>Champion of light is nerfed further to 30% from 60%There goes my last hope to play ret-shockadin in PvP with my pve holy paladin. Maybe I'll roll a shaman instead.
>>584582941>millenials dont like old AVIm pretty sure they were the majority of old AV players lol. Just they were unemployed at 16 at the time.
>>584583086I can't wait for the Naga invasion that arises from the eastern coast past ST, which will absorb survivors from the ST dungeoneering, and will also enslave the Broken so they can reuse the mob pack of a Naga Slavemaster and his 3 neutral Broken slaves.
>>584582979Sucks to suck. Just make your own tech industry and AI companies and space program and MMORPGs.Oh.Well at least Muhammed has a nice set of adjacent houses for his 3 wives and 27 kids.
>>584583003>lvl 30 twink geared data
>>584583281The difference between millennials when they were growing up and modern millennials is a fucking ocean of difference
HABBENING>These auras now affect all raid members within 30 yardsHABBENING
>>584582235>>584582903Really fucking stupid to have the Nightclaw just kind of hanging around for 10k years, using mutated druid forms that don't belong in Classic lore (Druids used to be channeling the spirit of Ursa Prime, or whatever the bear spirit's name is, not just turning into any old bear wandering around nearby), and then return to the Alliance alongside the LITERAL HIGH ELVES......and the skelf druid is happily welcomed into the Cenarion Circle, with no reservations of any kind spoken by the famously xenophobic Night Elves. Because having that in the game would be just like kneeling on St. Floyd's neck, or something.
>>584583332nah, it's prebis gear at 60but it's still pretty bad because we haven't seen most new lvl 60 gear, especially caster gear which will get changed a lot
>Holy capstone talent is for dpsFuck this fat nigger and his nigger meme spec
>>584583281Sir, I was employed and 22 at the time.
all WoW lore is some shit like a group calling themselves the Ivory Shields battled the badguy forces of the demon lord Sinistro but the leader of the Ivory Shields by the name of Thaldorius Byzertherionus was actually corrupted and formed a group called the Granite Hand and defeated the Zungabi Tribe teamed up with the humans of Kirkshire to access the well of Fel magic. Idk who could care about this shit ngl senpai
>>584583332its actually with 60 gear factoring in new talents and spell changes. the gear is old though so still needs some changes but its pretty acuurate
>>584583256It's 30% per point I believe anon, they even mention that it's been reduced to 60% in the notes.
Can you someone explain what the fuck seal twisting is for someone who's retarded?
>>584583445Healers should be expected to contribute damage whenever they can, it's oldschool MMO game design.
>>584583003what are experimental talents? is it something official or just the name of some talent build
Did these retarded faggots just forget to release the patch notes?
PATCH PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>584582090you cant bring 4 resto shamans anon you need disc priest at the minimum for fear ward on main tank and stam buff
Anybody got the link for free RestedXP? I ain't wanna pay for that shit
>>584583386>we're one update away from totems being raid wide
> Sucks to suck. Just make your own tech industry and AI companies and space program and MMORPGs.> Oh.> Well at least Muhammed has a nice set of adjacent houses for his 3 wives and 27 kids.
>no racial change previews>meaning they are just gonna fuck over any race who knocks their friend(s) out of the tournamentlol horde about to be guttedalliance chads win again
>>584583486So heccin true bestie! And they dont even le make fun of it like my Marvel movies! They need to like when you kill the raid boss be like "Errrm was that guy's name really Bogorog the Destroyer? Talk about issues..."
>>584583568it wasn't there before. it probably means the sim isn't finished. simming weaving is a bit harder so numbers might be wrong.
>>584583395The skyborne have a bear spirit as well, Urs'endrisAnd the Cenarion Circle also has Tauren in it so other races aren't unheard of
>>584583638>meaning they are just gonna fuck over any race who knocks their friend(s) out of the tournamentimagine unironically believing this
>>584583604and most importantly we can throw druids in to the bin where they belong except for 1 to aura the whole raid
>>584583316Once you achieve something yourself, you'll stop boasting about the achievements of the people in your geographical area.Until that uh..have fun flipping burgers?
>>584582593those pixar disney abortions will never look like wow lmao
>>584583741have you seen this dev team, amir?
>>584583486Irony poisoning has rotted your brain almost beyond repair
>>584583486And somehow the elves involved in this battle mutated all at once and became an entirely new race of elves called the jungle elves that are biologically and genetically distinct from their previous race because that's how genetics works.
>>584580782Cry about it.
>>584583375While this is true and Millennials have become dad gaymers, you cant ignore the toxic influence of the zoomer whose first warcraft game was legion or some shit. Whats worse is they arent even interested in the old games like WC3 even though they are available to play.
>>584583375The only difference is that you got older and the spoiled dweebs who grew up during one of the most lavish times in American history are now steering the ship into the fucking ground.This is a known phenomenon that has occurred time and again. Unfortunate for you that it happened during your lifespan. Get fucked loser, gg no re.
>>584583603they only have shit until 30 for now, after release they’ll make updates, if you want to torrent it you’d have to get the new version everytime which is pretty tedious
someone in the forever team definitely hates holy paladin
>>584582235Just turn your brain off bro ;^)
FUCK REINFORCEMENTSALTERAC VALLEY IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED OVER THE COURSE OF LITERAL FUCKING DAYS UNTIL SOMEONE SUMMONS A LITERAL FUCKING RAID BOSS OF ELEMENTAL RAPE AND BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF THEMI NEED TO SEE TWO MASSIVE ELEMENTAL RAID BOSSES BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF THEMSELVES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD OF STRIFEI NEED TO SEE AIR STRIKESI NEED TO SEE CALVARY CHARGESI NEED TO SEE INFRANTRY CHARGESI NEED TO SEE A JUICED UP CAPTAIN FUCKING ONE SHOT SOME FAGGOT CLOTHIE WHO GOT TO CLOSEI NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO LOG OFF, GO TO BED, WAKE UP, GO TO WORK, HIT THE GYM, COME HOME, AND THE BATTLE IS STILL RAGGING
>>584583035If the Skyborne turned to Druidism before they even left Dire Maul, I feel like they'd realistically just join kal'dorei society than fuck off to somewhere else
>>584583395Normally I fight back against anons calling the Skelf lore stupid, but I actually agree with you specifically about the Nightclaw Druid sect and their toothless, frictionless integration into the majority Night Elf druid organization. It's bad enough that High Order Skelf druids actually back their Arcane-using mage organization that is all for consuming/breaking whatever they need to in order to gain the power to save their home, but to then be brought into Dalaran's fold specifically, then have zero issues being welcomed into the Cenarian Circle, Night Elf side, is fucked. I know there's still mention of Nightclaws having access to the Emerald Dream, but that doesn't seem enough. That said, the High Order Skyborne are not High Elves. High Elves = Quel'thalas, Highborne = Kaldorei Empire's nobility caste, one faction of Highborne were exiled from Kalimdor and eventually became the High Elves.
>>584583703>the sim isn't finishedThat's an understatement.I don't know why people keep posting this garbage when the guy just took wowsims github, gave it to claude and said make it for wow forever and make no mistakes.Retards like simple things I guess.
>Literally everywhere you look at Paladin posts on the internet, not a single soul in existence wants Twist of Light or will ever take Twist of Light>People who liked seal twisting hate it, people who hate seal twisting hate it, holy paladins hate it because they moved holy shock to 21 just because they know everybody hates twist of lightHmmm...maybe if we buff it to 30% reduced mana cost on seals..?
>no rp-pvpDream's dead
>>584582235One of the lore crystals in the zone you can find explains that they came from north to help the people of Eldre'thalas and that the Prince actually thought they were saboteurs sent by Malfurion for that reason.
>>584583557In TBC there was bug with the new Seals they added where casting them didn't immediately remove Seal of Command or Seal of Righteousness. So for about a half-second you had a period where new Seal + Seal of Command/Righteousness could be active for an auto attack.
>>584582941I unironically enjoyed the PvP zone thing in WoD. Wow needs an old AV type PvP where the objective is to complete various tasks inorder to push to the enemy base. Modern bum rushing PvE AV is lame as fuck
What's so good about RP PVP anyway?
>>584584104They hate it for different reasons than we do. They hate it because they think that the seal twisting bug should be made into a baseline mechanic that all paladins have to abuse instead of an optional talent.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING PATCH
>>584584218never let your dreams stay dreams
>>584584230It was lightning in a bottle one time in 2019/2020 on one server so everyone wants to feel that again.
okay so I can ACTUALLY roll ret pala and ACTUALLY get raid spots and ACTUALLY get a good parse?
>>584583256I had already decided not to play paladin. I really want to tank but the class is just boring as fuck. Ret and prot just stand there doing fuck all.Male Nightelf Druid main for me.
>>584584315So just like vanilla wow?
>>584584063The implication from the (limited) writing about the subject is: Proto-Skyborne stopped Prince T from opening a portal (doorway) to a demon world, but it caused a bunch of mini portals to spit out city-wide summons of Arcane elementals (like we see in Dire Maul West) that began to slaughter the city. The proto-Skyborne were forced to flee west, to the Feralas coast, presumedly being chased by Prince T's military after the Arcane elementals were put down. Again, presumedly, the proto-Skyborne were being chased by ship when they found the 3 islands of Air Elementals and struck their deal, but it's foggy.
>>584583557>>584584213This, and private server browns got so used to abusing this bug that they thought it was an intended mechanic.
We made one too many jokes about paladins being the "turn seal on and alt tab" classNow we're paying for it
>>584583715Tauren don't have a history of summoning demons and blowing up the planet
>>584584334>and ACTUALLY get a good parse?you could always get a good parse as a ret because thats all you'd be competing against on wcl or do you not understand that
>RETAIL IS HARDER THAN CLASSIC AND FOREVER!!! SAVE ME RUPAUL!!!
patch when?
>no RP-PvP>AV ruined with reinforcementslosing my faith in them very quickly
>>584584343I'm doing male skelf druid. I plan to get a big nelf wife.
indian shills will reply angry to this post
>>584583715Druids are one of maybe three classes in the entire game who have a singular, unified identity. A player character druid stops being a druid and starts being a Druid(tm) when he hits level 10 and joins the Cenarion Circle; the "bear spirit" should never have been balkanized in the way it was. Skelves should have (after some harumphing by racist night elves, and literally just two sentences of Staghelm going "well...Tyrande says she won't unlock my chastity cage unless I let you guys in...so okay fine") learned the same bear form as every other druid, because they are Druids(tm) not druids. But nope, gotta have our quirky millenial chungus owlbear with a dog tail. And we're not going to go the extra mile by having the Nightclaw be a separate faction of druids, that would be too stinky and mean and competition gives me anxiety HELP HELP RAPE!!!
>>584584506don't forget the timegated battlepass-style ranking system
>>584584527Gonna be honest here chief, that's what original 2004-2006 niller was like.
>>584584445The night elves do but that didnt stop them from creating an organization of druids
>>584584527How do we break the cycle bros?
>>584584640you are a jeet
When are they fixing Light's Vigil?
>You have to quest instead of dungeon bro
>>584584334>roll ret palayes>get raid spotsno>get a good parse?no
>RP PVP server hands down the biggest and fastest moving thread on the entire WoW forum since Forever announced>Classic's RP PVP servers were immensely popular and long lasting >Sever type one of the most impactful choices you can possibly make in the game>Blizzard: eh can't be bothered lolI was a massive Forever dickrider and trying to give Blizz the benefit of the doubt cause it seemed like they were trying but now I lowkey want to see it fail
>>584584490>>584584506>>584584506GEMMY GEM GEMALL POSTS BELOW ARE VANTABLACK COAL
hpal bros what are we rolling now? priest or druid?
>>584579501/wowfg/ Census, do not fill out if you plan to change what you're playing after the incoming racial patch>https://poal.me/l37iai>https://poal.me/gqwaav>https://poal.me/1fi7yo
>>584583557It was a bug that people exploited to have multiple seals proc by swapping at almost the exact second your weapon swing went off, because Paladins do nothing else in vanilla because they have no buttons to press, people pretended seal twisting was fun (because the alternative is doing literally nothing) to the point they actively added it as an "intentional" mechanic to appease them.
>>584584089>That said, the High Order Skyborne are not High Elves. High Elves = Quel'thalas, Highborne = Kaldorei Empire's nobility caste, one faction of Highborne were exiled from Kalimdor and eventually became the High Elves.I appreciate and agree with your agreeing with me in the first paragraph, however, I can't help but autistically state that I don't care about these Glup Shitto distinctions like I did in my teens and early twenties. Y'all know what I meant.
>Can't have a lore discussion without inserting weird fetishes out of nowhereWhy are people like this
>>584584665stop playing wow. Stop giving them money. Stop playing their game.
Hi guys. I have a question about playing Forever and want to hear some of your opinions. I'm a Retail Andy but am having trouble accepting that retail isn't for me anymore. I hate how it's all seasonal content and that the world doesn't matter anymore. It's all about getting everything done as fast as possible and when you get to endgame, the difficulty spikes so much that I just can't keep up with it.How do I accept that I spent so much time and effort in retail, just to let go of it now? I want to play WORLD of Warcraft, not portal/instance simulator, and Forever offers a world. Please help.
>>584584710women and trannies are scared of dungeons and raids because they are retarded and will be bullied. White men dungeon spam or have lil carlos boost them
>>584584490I don't like retail and I haven't played since Shadowlands but yes retail is much harder than classic. I'm pretty sure a low end M+ dungeon has twice the mechanics of the hardest classic raid boss.
the schizo woke up, any chance of this thread being on topic is doomed now
>>584584710>posting retail devs in the forever thread
>>584582737Not AI, posts from the forum Mr.Oh-So-Smart-Redditor award!
>>584584675Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
>>584584758>no repeated classes yet>human warrior: 0is this balance?
>>584584854I dropped out of retail for the same reasons as you and I'm moderately hyped for Forever.
anyone who thinks this game won't be sick is a delusional poc
>>584584646Yeah, in opposition to the planet exploders, who the Skyborne are direct descendants of and who still practice the thing that lead to planet explosion.
>>584584937Just WHO do you think is developing Forever?
>>584584527Is this Asmongold?
>>584585075
I can't decide between like 6 classes, help me decide.Mage, hunter, druid, shaman, warlock, or rogue as my main main?My one friend who still plays this game is going to roll priest, and my one former friend who still plays this game says he's going paladin.
We aren’t coming from the standpoint of Grobbulus and the streamer bastardization that existed in the classic 2019 experience. We are talking about the in-character wars back on Emerald Dream from Vanilla through WotLK.You have so many of us old heads coming back where that was our experience. To not offer that is such a gut punch to all of us.The streamers will come and go on those servers. We will be the ones that are there long term.The PvP servers cater to a VERY different kind of person. Now we are having to choose between no PvP, being with people who love getting immersed in the world and their experience, or PvP with people who are only in it for the mechanics and stomping on people with unrelenting toxicity.At least the toxicity that was on RP-PvP servers was in-character.
>>584583003>"Rogues will be the best ST dps!"And other lies brought to you by Aggrend
>>584584984I remember the version of this ytmnd meme someone made when they added the silithus PvP object where it was just an orc running saying LOL SANDI wish I could find it again.
>>584583003I love that Combat is the strongest Rogue, the way it should be.
break yourself of the shackles of classic/niller and realize that even though forlo won't be fully true to the spirit of classic and will likely stray further over time that it's still being developed by people that at least claim to want to keep it as close as possible. "lightning in a bottle" is coming again, it's just not going to be what anyone is expecting. There's about to be a lot of new shit on the horizon. This is as good as it's gonna get, so lower your guard and give it a chance. You're probably going to enjoy it and if you don't, era will always be there.
>Alliance has forced dwarfism for windfury totem lol
Forever is being developed by Asmongold! He has assembled only the most based and trad white straight male nat social team ever! There will be Cosby jokes, there will be tranny jokes!
>the entire playerbase gets delayed patch because streamers said soyeah, I'm done, blizzard is a joke of a company, the game is not even out yet and they are shitting on it already like that, there is no future in this at all, they will find a way to ruin it completely in less than 3 months
>>584583825Just like protohumans split to people and niggers, all at once.
>>584585329lolhahahaha
>>584584445The Skyborne also don't, given they specifically fought back against the idea of summoning demons, stopped it from happening, and still chose to practice druidism up on the skylands. The frictionless response to them from the Night Elf druids is still lame, especially when Fandral is still there, ready to drop a skigger-line, though.>>584584542Actually, has any skelf druid checked to see if they can just take the skyship off of Zephras Isle, go to the druid trainers / Moonglade, and get their Bear Form quest, or are they hard-forced into the Zephbear? I at least would enjoy having the choice between Zephbear and Nelfbear/Taurbear.>>584584791No worries, bro. I'm just used to this general and its bots legit not knowing the difference, so I have the distinction at the ready.
>>584584230I don't care about rp but I want another server for horde pvp. In anniversary I could at least roll the Australian servers if I wanted to play horde in pvp.Sucks ass you can only choose one faction for a pvp experience.
>>584584710>working class demands benefits, respect>fuck you we'll replace you with women and jeets!>even hardcore addicts like myself don't buy >company dies, goes under, bought out by Microsoft>western empire on edge of armaggedon war with the EastI fucking hate Californians. Oregon and Washington are California DLCs, so no need to correct me on that one you fucking autist
>oh shit a quest inside of the dungeon?!>wait a minute guys, I'm gonna listen to this with Spoken Addon>damn that shit was so cool and immersive haha!! wait... why are you all dead? don't tell me you didn't wait fucking faggotsWho is in the wrong here?
>>584585418I've already portrayed myself as the stoic hopechad, (you)r doomjeetery has no power here.
>>584585146Just wait till after the pvp streamer tournament so the streamers can tell them to buff roguesMaybe if we're lucky a streamer can tell them ele shaman is bad or a streamer can tell them nobody actually likes seal twisting
Apparently I was just banned because I was traded gold from a friend because he was done with the beta he had no use for the gold. So he traded it to me to use, as soon as he traded it to me with in a few hours I was unable to use the AH or use the mailbox. I knew something was up then the ban came after. Once you trade x amount of gold you are flagged and banned they obviously have no Idea if you actually bought the gold with real money or not. I am being completely honest here I never used real money for gold. This bs needs to stop, few of the guildies I was playing with it happened to them as well. I contacted my friend that traded me the gold he tried to log on to see and he was banned also. They are literally banning players now with no proof of purchasing gold with real money. This needs to stop. They want to crack down on gold sellers, then they should be logging into the game and go catch them in the act like they use to do. But I guess now it easy to create a program that flags anyone trading gold with one another. SO my question is this… Is it against games rules now too trade gold with a game friend when real currency not involved? Please give feed back on this post Blizzard needs to hear this. How many have you been banned lately for not breaking agreement and terms with Blizzard? You cant even get a response from Blizzard when you open a ticket you get the same message back from a AI not a real person. Blizzard needs to read this and explained everyone why they are banning players inside trading with one another.
>>584584710You are a sweat who is seething. I will enjoy questing while not seeing boosting/spell cleave adds in the general chat.
>>584585459>Actually, has any skelf druid checked to see if they can just take the skyship off of Zephras Isle, go to the druid trainers / Moonglade, and get their Bear Form quest, or are they hard-forced into the Zephbear? I at least would enjoy having the choice between Zephbear and Nelfbear/Taurbear.That's not how the code works. Skelf druids have a base form intrinsically attached to their model, not the spell ID.
>>584585564what is the opposite of reddit spacing?
>>584583162Idk how to tell you this but lava burst is not why the dps is bad. Its bad because of nerfs to spell damage and spell scaling, with questionable mana efficiency
>>584585503If the second line of "Wait a minute guys, I'm going to [afk]" was actually in party, and the party ignored it, that's technically on the party for choosing to be in a hurry and lacking the skill (lmao) at vanilla dungeons (lmao) to prevent a 4-man wipe.
>>584585406>because streamers said soI don't think there's a single streamer that DOESN'T want the patch what are you talking about? there's so much bugged broken shit like hunters, curse of tongues, mind-numbing poison, etc
Blizzard should do music videos for every race and class
>>584585459The quests have a race restriction https://www.wowhead.com/forever/quest=6001/body-and-heart
>>584585672I don't care about dps. I care about the class being fun. Elemetnal shaman was about lightning rng
>>584585671reddit wall
>>584585503The people who died, for dying. Fucking noobs.
>>584584723RP PVP gives Chuds too much room to be naughty and racist against orcs and gnomes.
>>584584710>I have to play the game>WOMEN are to blame!!!In all caps because they're fucking huge
Reading this thread is wild sometimes
There should be World PvP where ypu can capture enemy faction citiesIf your city gets captured you have to deal with refugees in other cities and the prices of goods start increasing
>>584585701blizzard delay the patch because of the streamers tournament
>>584585663>>584585740Damn, that's unfortunate from an RP perspective. I get why they'd want to keep the visual of [race]-form from a gameplay side, though.
>>584585564>give someone a significant amount of gold for no apparent reason>get flaggedworking as intended ig?
>>584585873>there should be a world pvp game with massive snowball mechanics for the first person to push a base???
>>584585850Reading this thread is mild sometimes
>>584585752I agree it should be lightning focused but it pretty much is. Lava burst just gives you something else to cast once in awhile. If you've ever pvp'd as Elemental in vanilla you know why having spells in more than 1 school of magic is good. spoiler: Mages counterspell Nature and your whole kit is locked out.
>reinforcementsWhat's the point of AV if every game ends in 15 minutes?
>>584585403I guarantee you're gonna be seething on release that alliance has an unfair advantage because the dwarves are too tiny to click on and their 1% mace crit is too OP. (They will probably boost it to 2% on release)
>>584583569They’re waiting for word from the streamers whenever they run out of reaction content.
>>584585894source?
>>584585146there has to be some op shit coming up. they even nerfed talents. surely they wouldn't do that for no reason?
Every time I see an update on forever it just seems worse and worse and made by people who hate fun. Shit like the booty bay gun nerf and now no rp-pvp.
>>584584710do you ever see fat bitches irl and wonder if your dick would be long enough? like you obviously wouldnt because its gross but i still wonder if i could
Gnome Priest only really makes sense for Holy, 1/2 of your racial spells breaks Shadowform and Disc wants crit which your racials don't provide. It's a shame too because Disc is the spec that makes the most sense for Gnome Priest to be thematically, Gnomes would be occupied with the doctrine and discipline of the faith rather than the practice of it, and protective shields are the cornerstone of Gnomish technology.
>>584585873Yeah and then you start seeing your women around with them haha. Like imagine you're in Orgrimmar and see your troll crush take a human into her mud hut haha
Everyone is sleeping on plainsrunning Popping out of cheetah or ghost wolf and having 30% increased run speed while you move around dropping heals will be pretty nice in pvp
>>584586172But what other alliance race would be for disc then?
>>584586049makes the game end faster for ranking
Chud Races>dwarf>human>undead>taurenTranny races>gnome>ne>orc>troll
>>584586148
>>584586172Sorry, I know I know ughh! I’m just going to play gnome disc priest is all.
>>584586148no, because I've had sex before.
>>584581950You've sold me that sky elves are a good thing
What if I just don't cast lava burst LMAO
>>584586232nice LARP. reality:>have 30 stacks>cheetah>stop to heal>stacks immediately start decaying>get hit once and lose half of what's left>gap is perma-closed, plainsrunning is now turned off for the remainder of the fight>you now wish you played a race that actually did something
>>584586307Night Elf or Dwarf, depends on if you think a temporary 10% crit cooldown is better than 1% permanent crit. I think Night Elf wins personally.
>>584586321But AV's honor has been reduced vs other BGs
>>5845860582%?!Orc racials will be buffed to compensate.
>>584586343lol fucking loser get the fuck out of here you sex haver this is a world of warcraft general
>>584586232Will be short lived though. One warrior charge and there goes half your stacks. Hoj? there goes all of your stacks.
>>584586463definitely nelf
I'm glad my interest in this whole Forever ordeal is already waning.Must be 6 or 7 years since I've stopped playing, since things have only gotten worse and worse and there's no improvement in sight.But at least it was good to remind me how much I love the Draenei. And remind me about so many cool stuff in wow to draw.And remind me how good wow porn is.
I hate plainsrunning in its current implementation because it turns Tauren, the peaceful giants, into ADHD zoomers spamming strafe while handing in quests so they don't lose stacks.
>>584586405Nigro my options are between warstomp and a free goblin glider, plainsrunning is simply a bonus.
>>584586325Nice try tranny. Splitting everything into left and right is leftist mentality.
>>5845865396767676767676767
>>584586101Yeah for sure2% Buff to Sinister Strike
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/beta-realm-maintenance-october-15/2383475https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/beta-realm-maintenance-october-15/2383475https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/beta-realm-maintenance-october-15/2383475https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/beta-realm-maintenance-october-15/2383475
>>584586405You don't have to stop to drop HoTs, and if you position well you wont get hit. Obviously it can be countered if someone really wants to chase you down, but if youre positioned well that would put them in a bad spot.
>>584586232how often will you have 2.5 minutes to prestack plainsrunning though? most of the time you'll have maybe 10 stacks and since it doesn't stack with the 8% boot enchant it'll be just 2% extra.It should reach max stacks in 1 minute to be usefull.
Do you think we’ll go to outlands again for the first expansion?
>>584586325Switch Human with Orc and you've got it. >inb4 its the human warrior main autist.
>>584586325Swap gnome and tauren and make them all male and you've got it correct.
>servers down in 15fucking finally
>>584586539>stalking game generals 7 years after you stopped playingbreh what is wrong with youjust masturbate to r34 draeneis if you miss the game
>>584584640vanilla was shit but after tbc was announced people just played the game and all complaints were met with get good or skill issue.
>>584586515A charge is 25 yards and a heal is 40 yards. If you position well the only class that should have a chance to hit you is a hunter.
>>584586232it's not useless but it just takes way too long to get stacksseems best on druid healer pvp. just stay back and use hots and it makes it easier to outrange opponents.
>ganks alliance clothcuck tranny while they are drinkingCan't wait
Can you faggots stop talking about horsecock draenei women and plainsrunning and which streamer's asshole you want to tongue for like three minutes and talk about the game instead.>>584585118>>584585118>>584585118>>584585118
>>584586463Mhhh yeah I think I'm still going gnome though. The 5% more mana pool are cool and I'm going to do dwarf on shaman already. Night elf I could do though but if I make a druid that will also be one and I try to make a diverse cast of races....
>>584586637PATCH COMINGPREDICT CHANGES>LIGHTNING BOLT NERFED FOR SOME REASON>ROGUES DEAL 3% MORE DAMAGE
>>584586816Yeah no, Horde is the tranny faction now. Alliance is full of chuds larping as crusaders
>>584584525why would a nelf goddess be interested in a tranny fuccboi? that's the most unrealistic pairing in the entire game.
>>584586854>help me decide between 2/3 of the classeshow about no
>>584586325Swap undead and orc
>queue for BG>lose about 7/10 games>most alliance show up as premades all from the same guildsI did they managed to do this? I thought there are separate queues for premades and solo. It's also kinda sad that they need to make pre-mades to win.
>blizzchads updating right in the middle of the faggot tournament bros?? where we in the wrong??
>>584586786>hunter(the most common class) has pet use intimidation >there goes all of your stacks wow, HUGE racial there.
>>584586854i want a futa horsecock satyr draenei hybrid to plainsrun to asmongold's house and eat his asshole out
>>584586680We'll stay on Azeroth but they could do a self-contained Hellfire Peninsula dungeon in the Caverns of Time where we take control of the Sons of Lothar.
>>584586661Good points . In a bg you can build it up before the gate opens. In wsg it'll build up while youre running the flag. Im wondering now if it keeps charging while youre mounted.
>they wont patch because muh streamer tournament!!!doomers?
>>584586854If you can decide between 6 fucking classes you haven't even begun choosing.
>>584584525>skelfInferior in every way. Night elf is the better parsing and pvp race.>shadowmeld counters the legacy stealth detection >shadowmeld can be used to drop aggro and kill annoying dps players>shadowmeld can interrupt spell casts>1% dodge for bear form>10% crit cooldown synergizes amazingly with bear and cat form bonuses to rage and combo pointsInstead you're taking a glider and a shitty regen skill.
I LOVE horsecock draenei women, how about you guys?
>>584586325Real:Chud>Orc>Male Undead>Male Nelf>Male Dwarf Tranny>Everything elseGIGA TRANNY (!!! WARNING !!!)>Female Human>Female Undead>Sky Elf
>>584586854I have decided for you to kill yourself.
>>584586910eureka changed to 5%
pvp minigamefags are 5th class citizens
>>584586854One of those things, Plainsrunning, is clearly about the game you stupid nigger
>>584586984Same anon. Only with balls but that's a give right?
>* DELETED ALL CLASSES BUT PALADIN. FUCK YOU HAHAHAHAHA. -- Aggrend.>* Totems now go up your ass.
>>584586916>w-we are all larping as le crusaders!keep telling yourself that
>>584586843Human female is the TOP tranny choice lol. You play a tranny race. Mean
>>584577807RP - Alliance Male Human Hunter. Leveling exclusively in NElf zones from lvl 1 for the tiger mount later. Gnome wifeI'd go NElf hunter but I hate horizontal bow animations compared to vertical ones.I'm a bit worried that if there's an RP-PVP server it's gonna split the demand for RP too much and both will end up kinda dead. I don't feel like playing PVP this time around because I don't like the kind of psycho it turns me into desu
>"Hey today lets try and convince /wowfg/ that the true tranny faction is alliance!"You fuckers just choose a new argument and a new angle every week.
>>584586843>human is the white man's choice
We love ERPvP here
>>584586995You forgot Stoner>trollBull Dyke or Asexual 40-year-old Femcel With Children>tauren female>>584587024>>584586980>>584586962>>584586923u guys r mean :'(
>>584586947Cool I made you use intimidation to counter my plainsrunning, later it'll be on c/d so you cant kill me with it.
>>584587063I would use a totem plug if it meant I never had to drop that totem ever again
>>584587175this but unironically
Did they make a place JUST for the tournament?Are they afraid someone would show up and spam slurs on /yell and get them all banned?
>>584586916>the faction with the pretty girl models >not the tranny faction nice larp
so... dust is settled and numbers are outwhats the BEST first class to level up in order to set your foot properly in the world and not cuck yourself on the way to 60?i noticed that leveling mail classes led me into poverty status
Im quite fond of the slowfall racial
I'm sorry but I'm rolling resto druid. Having the biggest WoW streamer (soda) play your class means all druid specs will actually be good.
These patch notes will decide the tournament
>>584587245
>>584587261rogue so you can pickpocket other players
>biggest WoW streamer (soda)Who's gonna tell him Olympusbros?
>>584587261>dust is settled>numbers are outliterally nothing has changed. the best gold farming classes will be mage, hunter, and paladin, as has always been the case. kill yourself.
>>584587175>>584587227"Green POV" and other such orc larps is a simulacra of miscegenation. You are being psyopped into preferring ape rape nigger/white woman porn.
>>584586963What if immediately go to the Shadowlands to meet Pelagos as xhe transitions into Arbiter?
>>584587274I just dont want the sky elf forms. If we unlocked the snake form in the barber chair I'd roll one.
>>584587261If youre planning to level multiple classes to 60 , hunter is probably your best choice as the early moneymaker
>>584586916I love how the assmongoloid faggots are trying SO HARD to turn this into realityMeanwhile 3 months after release you will be all gone and horde will dominate the game in both PVE and PVP because its how its always been
>>584587261first character is your mainyou build a rep as a player of that classif you then try to reroll your actual raid no one knows you or if they are in your guild they see like you are stepping on their toes as a newbie
>>584587351holy shit you cracked the code bro
>A map just for the tournament??>Bro they're not patching because of the tournament bro!!>Bro they're balancing because of the tourny!!niggers they don't give the tournament half the attention you faggots do. I swear I'm going to have to filter that fucking word until the beta is over.
>>584587351what
>adds tauren paladin and draenei (orange) shaman in month 2. >you now have to level the same class all over again
>>584584723I'm the only og rp pvp player here (defias brotherhood eu since 2005). Then ZT in classic, then chaos bolt in sod which was rp pvp for about 2 minutes before turning into pvp.Forever doesn't need an rp pvp server.99% of the people rolling there have no interest in rp. They're there to escape their own shithole. They hear that it's great on an rp pvp server. A better community and whatnot, which was true, when it was filled with the original population. It could handle a small amount of tourists but there's always a breaking point. You can see what happened with sod.Don't forget that if you started with rp pvp in classic, you're no different from an indian immigrating to western countries and turning said countries into another india. People migrating from RP realms can be considered western immigrants. The rest of you are streetshitters.
>>584587306>>584587245>>584586916>>584586816don't you guys ever get annoyed that you're thinking about trannies all the time?
>>584586916>troonhammer
>>584587354They didn't do anything like that in SoD.
>>584586963I want the Caverns of Time to actually turn into a completely hostile dungeon+raid because of timeline bullshit, but I also realize this would probably be unfeasible.
>>584587159Who do you think the pajeets are mimicking? White men.Not everyone is secretly indian, you unpure mutt de la a merican.
>>584587274>>584587365SISTER SAME. I would even be fine with just the SD/2004 models. The skelf druid forms give me the ick. >>584587493Did I stutter>>584587446Kinda weird for jeets and chinese and russians to push the psyop this way consider orcs are GERMAN
priest or mage?
>>584587437Who has the biggest guild again lil bro?
>>584587306>retail tranniesok, retail is a different animal with allied races. Nice cope. Enjoy your trannies, you can pretend they are crusaders if you'd like.
Hat status?
>>584587365>snake form tied to low level tier set>not a follow up quest line where Naralex teaches you Snake Form as thanks for saving him
>>584586325Deserve your respect and all the items>male tauren>male troll>male night elf>male human>male gnome>dwarfFaggots and trannies>skelf>female troll>female night elf>female human>female gnome>female undead>female orc>female taurenPiloted by a shitskin>male orc>male undead
>>584587501Dwarf Shaman always made 10x more sense than Draenei Shaman. They were just afraid of changing existing races back then.
>>584587582keep seething jeet
>>584586919Because skelves don't smell like unwashed ass like nelf men.
>>584587697cummed in
any vg eu pvp guild?
>AV ruined foreverF
>>584587743I can smell the pve ruleset
>>584587538Chromie attacking the starting zone like Alduin
>>584587510Trannies are permanently online which means they are an issue with any online medium. Especially fantasy worlds like mmos. If they werent an issue nobody would care. But they are militantly gay problem causers so everyone hates them.
>>584587743Is creampied ass any better?
this beta was anything but beta testing thats for sure
>>584587743You're trans.
chud race is whatever race i play tranny race is whatever race my 'girlfriend' plays
>>584587501This is the only reason I'm hesitating playing Shaman on ally. Our goddamn guild only has one shaman signup on alliance
>>584587719These threads have soured me on femdwarf players, they're absolute faggot trannies too.
>>584587538It's unfeasible and incongruent with the original development. The Black Morass map was designed at the same time as vanilla, dark portal and everything, and we become friends with the bronze dragons during Ahn'qiraj.
>>584587506It's really funny you felt the need to bring up your "OG status" at the start because you know your take is objectively shit and hoped that would mitigate it
>>584587538WoWF is not a different timeline in that way, it is a completely separate universe; Microsoft is essentially soft-rebooting the franchise, probably done in a way that they consider least likely to get sued by the kikes they bought it from.It's like the difference between the time travel within the MCU, and MCU vs Marvel comics. Timetravel within the MCU makes branching timeways; none of those timeways happen to lead to Marvel Comics, because they are completely separate deviations of the same source IP, except owned by different corpo-rats.
>>584587908Why?
>>584587743I would love to see this screenshot through your eyes. Completely alien psyche
I get hard anytime a cutie nelf invites me to group for something...
>>584587743You can't have this as your character and expect me to believe you don't like sweaty muscled men
>>584587510they got propoganda machined into thinking about whatever they hate 24/7. very odd. don't like trannies but i don't think about them.
>>584587709Honestly Id rather they have not even had put it into the game if we're going to have to wear a level 20 set to use it.
>>584587892elaborate
Daily reminder that if you roll a dwarf shaman you will be liked by everyone and invited all the time.
>>584587964Forcing futa faggotry constantly.
>>584587525>*Pelagos jams xer’s ladycawk in ur mouf*“They didnt do anything like THIS in SoD!”You say muffled as the laugh track queues
>no rppvp>they cite rppvp being unpopular on season of fucking discovery as the reason whyi hope your arteries clog and you fucking die fatgrend
>>584587908Anyone that picks dwarf is based. It's easily the worst set of racials in the game. The people playing them are playing to have fun. The females aren't pretty either which scares off the faggots and trannies.
>>584584758>>584584758>>584584758>>584584758>>584584758>>584584758
>>584587980Same...
>>584586854>>584585118>friends go priest and paladinnix mage and warlock to not compete with cloth drops.
>>584587882I don't like trannies but I literally never see them online. The only time I ever see them is from people like you.
>>584587709If you bring your 5-set from WC to Naralaxx in Hyjal, he remembers you and gives your Cat Form the visual for Snake Form without needing to wear the set.
>>584588107>never see them online Ok tranny.
>>584588059pelagos has a manpussy, dumbass
>>584588059I'd suck a shenis desu, but I don't think that a pretty tranny would do that to me.
>>584588071kill yourself chink data farmer
>>584586854I have taken your request in consideration, I shall continue talking about draenei horsecock
>>584588048Daily reminder that all these posts (as well as the "omg guis dwarf shaman will be such rare speshul snowflakes) are posted by Big Human Warrior to try and convince easily-suggestible cucks into being their windfury bots.
>>584588061define rppvp anonmake explicit the difference between rppvp and a pvp realm
>reddit thread complaining about AV being 15 mins max now>highest rated comment: I'm 35 and have kids, this is a good changethis is who blizz is catering to and why wow forever will fail
>>584588051Futa is almost always associated with elves, trolls, orcs, and especially draenei.
>>584587679sure hordesis
>>584588139you are actually literally insane
>>584588150>chink data farmerwhat exactly do you think someone is going to do with this information?
>>584588034>custom made changes and updated based on streamer feedback (which is based on the pvp tourney)>tens of bugs I reported day 1 of beta still in the game>last patch today despite the massive amount of bug fixing and changes needed>every podcast and interview is just "we want you to-, we did this to force players-, our stance is-its just looking grim bro
>>584588139Where do you see them, specifically? Facebook? Instagram? Any kind of social media? I never see trannies at all. Maybe your algorithm is designed to show you tranny stuff because you engage with it so much.
>>584587354>>584588059What compels a person to post this
>>584588139Seek help
how the fuck is that image not md5 banned already
>>584588210As long as they move the fucking horde entrance way the fuck back so they don't get a head start on all the objectives, I don't give a shit how long a match lasts.
>>584587394what's the hunter moneymaking strat? just farming mobs? bc u typically do the usual skinning/lw leveling
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>>584587743This looks pretty sweaty unwashed asscore
>>584588219>for trumpthats a regular gay man. Tbh i could see gay men playing Horde because of all the jacked muscle bro races. But Trannies? 80-90% going Alliance. The other 10% going horde skyelf.
>>584588126post the coords so I can go check this on my level 20 beta druid you shitskinned fucking liar
>>584579047>The layering system will continue to be improvedCRZ has been in the game since 07-19-2016 (which is what Forever uses), layering has been in classic since 08-26-2019 how much can they possibly improve it
>>584588384nta but princess and tribute runs
>>584587916Uh oh I don't see a counterargument.We all know that modern rp pvp is """""""rp""""""" pvp.
>>584588314>custom made changes and updated based on streamer feedbackI legit don't believe this is even true. People are overblowing the penance shit.But these next patch notes should tell us a lot..
>Olympus fags spam trade chat with there Israeli-Point USA bullshit>STFU>seethe trannyWhy are they like this?
>>584587980Have some goddamn composure anon !
>>584588384Given that combat traps are instant cast and hunters have what is effectively a 100% uptime slow that's better than blizzard and coc. Hunters will likely be aoe farming dungeons until blizzard nerfs it.
>>584588469Nah, it's a straight up lie, bro. Naralaxx isn't even in Hyjal. But what if, though.
>>584588518Chuds have become the new SJWs, they are annoying as fuck
>>584588265>>584588318>>584588342all trannies. Typical tranny posts. No normal person cares about what im saying. So this thread has 3 resident troons posting.
>join nightslayer >join the server discord (yes discord is gay)>see an inner circle discord clique running the general chat, I decide to troll them>they end up so buttblasted and seething that the accuse me of being 'aggrend' and ban me (who I assume is some infamous player)>just finding out this name is about an actual wow dev
>>584588508Anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, your appeal to authority is actually not an argument thus you are not entitled to a counter argument.
>plan to level a moneymaking alt to 60 before my main>none of the l33t moneymaking guides or youtubers or even 4chan commentators name my class as the class to farm withIt's gonna be a good time next month, lads. In 2019 I had epic mount money before I even hit 40, with all the changes they put in, this time I'll have money for ur mom's epic mount, too.>>584588384The people who responded to you are either trolling or don't know what they're talking about.>>584588534With what aoe damage, you fucking clown?
>>584588740Genuinely launch bellular out of a cartoon clown canon into the fucking ocean please
FOREVER HAS BEEN DELAYED I REPEATIT'S BEEN DELAYEDIT'S OVERIT'S OVER
>>584588740Whys he not posting his face anymore?
They should remove the pvp ruleset and use layering to have everyone who is flagged for pvp on the same layers
>>584588740Leveling was never hard. What forever did was take the fun, instances,
>>584588740Are you memeing or did he change the title and thumbnail already?
>>584587904it's almost certain that they use their last resort hail mary immediately when the playerbase plummets earlier than they hoped. it'll be twice as worthwhile to level up month 2 as month 1.
I’ve never played a melee dps before can someone explain how I can compare two handed weapons vs dual wielding in their listed dps?
/wowfg/ still wasn't able to refute this trvthnvke from baal btw
I miss when Warcraft told original stories with compelling characters and high quality writing.
>>584588665i was there and clapped
>Picks Female character>Doesn't transmog her to an outfit he finds hot.Is there a single non-trans explanation for this? If you were just rolling the character because you found them attractive you wouldn't have them running around in an ugly shitmog.>But ERPers wear slutmogs and they're tranniesAnyone who RPs with a female character is a tranny, this is a given and irrelevant to this discussion.
>>584588139Really got the transfolx mad with this one
>>584588901>HOLY SHIT ITS REAL
>>584588650>No normal person cares about what im saying.this is like when a dementia patient has a brief moment of clarity in between an ocean of darkness
>>584588901chatgpt, is this real?
>>584588938Youtube now allows you to release videos with different thumbnails/titles to get more views.
>>584588901Streamers have ruined my life, again.
>>584577807PvE EUNight elf Resto DruidMy plan is to get really good at resto druid and im going to talk to all the female pve night elf druids because they are the highest probability of being real females IRL, and I will find myself an ugly swedish wife to settle down with and eat kebabs together living on benefits playing wow
When the fuck will Blizzard:>update class talent trees>fill in those spots on legacy treesThey only have 20ish days what's the hold up? NO ONE and I mean NO ONE gives a fuck about the streamer tournament
>>584589014I thought if you played a female character at all you were a tranny, or did the memo get updated again and I missed it
>Retail 2:Lyte player’s think they arnt eventually going to go to the Trannyland’s to meet Pelagos.Yea it might take till tier 20-21 but everything is on the table in your vertically progressive game!
>>584588626>tattoos
>>5845889432 handers don't do as much dmg in pve because the majority of melee dps damage comes from white hits so they want to dual wield and attack fast which means more white hits.in pvp 2 handers, specially shamans and paladins before they removed rec bombing, were very bursty and could just instantly delete someone.
>>584588878just name the class, nobody needs to know your 1337 strats but it's fun to read and learn new stuff, would u mind sharing that at least
>>584588901I cum in your mom daily but refuse to allow her to give you a sibling out of fear that another human may grow to be like you
>>584588995Gay. I miss when warcraft was defined by rule of cool and inspired by pulp fantasy.
>>584588901WTFFFFF
>>584588901AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>584588742The crux of my argument doesn't depend on authority of any kind, and attempting to dismiss it based on that is at best a fallacy fallacy.Not that it's surprising since it comes from just the kind of person I was talking about in my post.
>>584589136They want to keep shit secret for launch, they don't want everything to be known before the game even launches
>>584588995warcraft 3 came out 2 years before episode 3
servers restarted just when i felt like playingthat's it i'm going to install aion 2!
>>584588901good i hope the shills an hero
>>584588901>content creators start making "is this really ready for launch?" >they immediately capitulate like good little bitchesKEKYPOW
>>584589310Everyone already knew where Episode 3 was heading.
>>584588995You are SO close to getting it, you stupid fucking nigger.
>>584589014I specifically make ugly female characters because I usually just want a different model animations and voice lines not to play into someone’s dumb shit
>>584589175People who think in extremes are retarded and therefore brown, and therefore horde players who don't play female characters because they're ugly.
>Posting a fake image and then samefagging replies over and overSupreme mental illness
>>584583003im just not gonna get a weave
How long was the downtime last week?
>salv doesnt count as a blessing anymorewe won bros. we only have to bring at max two of that insufferable class to raid, and of course they will both be holy.
>>584587351Cute.This timmie thinks he is talking to white people...
>>584588938Youtube has had "A/B" thumbnails that randomly display to different users for some time now. Ostensibly lets you track which styles bait the most clickthrough, but it can also change on a video you already watched to gaslight you into clicking it again.
>>584589019the truth hurts. They also like to pretend you're crazy for noticing. But they aren't crazy for mutilating themselves and being terminally online because they hate themselves in real life.
>>584589458lel. holy is trash. so you will bring 2 shockadins or 1 prot 1 shockadin
>>584589276That isn't what a fallacy fallacy is, you still have no evidence
>>584588051I haven't seen futa dwarfs so far
>>584583003>Favorite playstyle is top hunter DPSBASEDThey're going to remove it for being "too complicated" kek
>>584587351I don't care
>>584589467I'm talking to the 2 other whitey ogras de las americanas that are in this thread amongst the sea of bots, jeets, and (you), yes.
>>584587908femdwarf players in general have extreme special snowflake syndrome
>>584577807dorf shammy on PvE
>>584589209But what’s a more direct translations when I’m just comparing them? Like if I have a 2 hander that does 23 dps and two one handers that do 12 each which ones better
>>584588740>>584588938This changes everything, the future is bright, they have problems they need to address, this patch is a letdown, they destroyed the game, it's over, repeat.
What even is the difference between pvp and rppvp
>>584588901Where is this post? I can't find it
>>584589553well lets hope they wont roll on my warrior plate gear (they still will even though its not good for them)
>>584589695The latter pretends that anything different happens than on the former
>>584588901source link?
>>584589695Pvp for straight people and pvp for gays.
>>584589215Alright fine, the class and strat is ure mom lol get fuckt
Can anyone give me a qrd of the podcast today, cba listening to streamers
>>584588901
Reminder to gank and harass anyone using foid models because they are most likely trannies
>>584589754Its fake, autists like to spam AI genned blue posts and reposting reddit/forum posts non stop
>>584589695pvp server with rp server rulesused by 20 people
>>584588901OVER status?
>>584589807>>584589754its fake retardbros
if i spend an hour altering the ui in the beta will those settings be saved on release?
>>584589856they are aware of the issues and
>>584589695people on rp tend to actually speak your language and are actually willing to talk
>>584589871Lmao good luck bri I'm on PvE
I love playing male dwarf paladin and giving people I group up with for dungeons free food and bandages and potions and I love using consumes to do my absolute best in leveling dungeons
>>584589936no, just copy your addons and savedvariables folder from beta to release
>>584589114you are going to get friendzoned as restoevery girl will assume you are gay and see you are a friend from the first time you meet
>>584589660GIVE MY DORF DW!!!!!
>>584589695There's no difference except the 50 some guys that want to RP hold private events every now and then
>>584588901Would let me be able to focus on GTA so I don't know
>>584589912Oh thank sweet christ
>>584589996okay thanks
>>584589695it's like pvp but without the playersbasically a meme concocted by retards who can't think of anything else to cry about
>>584589856
>>584590112But who is listening?
Remember this image when Bellular puts out his inevitable "WoW Forever is DEAD!!!" video.
>>584590112A-alchemist bros?...
>having to resort to faking postsoutlook grim for doomxisters
>>584589965Keep living your best life bro
>>584590031HOLY FUAAAAAAAAAAARK BASED
>delays the game so his parasocial buddies can make bank with gta 6
>>584588901WTF WTF WTF I ALREADY TOOK 2 WEEKS OFF I AM FUCKED
>>584588962this is just pseudo sociology buzz word nonsense. original poster he's replying to is correct. at one point all the racists were on horde because being an orc/troll etc alligned with the way racists were treated online by intelligent employed people. calling yourself a troll was facetious and self agrandizing. over time more idiots got access to the internet, and internet trolls became mainstream racists. these new racist manchildren have no sense of irony or self awareness and identify with the white characters they see on screen.
>>584589937>>584590112sounds like they've wasted their time trying to "fix" the "problems" with the 1v1 tournament and ignored everything else.
>>584590013>implying girls play druid LGBT class. It’s cock all the way down.
which faction is for white people in 2026?
>>584588901I would genuinely unironically and legitimately go on a rampage if they delayed my forevanyl
>>584589114I actually know a girl in real life and her opinions are>alliance sucks>who the fuck plays a dwarf or gnome or male night elf???>I love prince arthas! >undead is the best race>rogue is for pretentious snobs and shitters, undead rogues are mentally illHope this helps
>>584588901I'm gonna reserve (most of) my dooming till we see today's patch, but judging by how that goes it might make me wish this post was real. I don't see how they can fix some of the massive issues with classes in just over 2 weeks with only a few days of beta testing left.
>>584583003You would have to be a genuine retard to believe anything depicted in this image
>>584590289Neither
>>584589557Evidence? Of crusader strike being shit? Do I need to point out that it was the streamer realm? Of people heading to rp pvp servers for non-rp reasons? You could try reading literally any comment about the servers. I mean feel free to deny reality if you want, but the main reason people state for wanting to roll there is that "they're better"Of you being akin to streetshitters? It's an incredibly accurate analogy. Honestly can't get any closer than that. They believe that they're one of the good guys. Sure, they're different from the original population, but they'll fit right in. And whoops, 80% of the population is now brown, and the place is no different from where they came from.
>>584590289Horde but its mega woke trannies from canadistan and minnesota, pick your poison
>>584590289gnomes? quirk chunguses
>>584589871This is my plan. Im going to gank all females from the other faction and not help females on my own faction. Its the only way to be sure. If some real foids are caught in the crossfire, thats a price Im willing(glad) to pay.
Girls (female) play Hunter, Priest, Druid and Warlock in that order.
>>584589996which savedvariables folder? wont there be version/character name mismatches?
Reminder that orcs are literally German Protestants. Thrall is literally Martin Luther.>>584588962>>584590237
>>584589114That's a cool plan, but wouldn't a tank make more sense so you can spam dungeons with them?
>>584590394I don't count those as white
>>584589114>classic>female
>>584577862maybe i am getting old idk I do not watch streamers, but my YouTube algorithm has been spammed with WoW content and i have seem some shorts/highlights of streamers and it actually bothers me that people think this cringe shit is entertaining,
what do n00bs and rogues have in common?they both pick locks
>>584588901@grok:is this real
>>584590013last time i tried this i was a healer and I had a bunch of real (verified biological female) girls on my battle net in mists of pandaria, but yes I got friend zoned, in fact a scottish warlock guildmate cucked me and moved in with one in denmark, so I know it can work but my approach will be more refined thanks to chatgpt coaching me this time
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZQDCJZW4Eits out.
Warrior and Shaman are the most male-coded classes I think
>>584583003How are these numbers constantly changing when there are no changes to the game?
>>584590521It’s incredibly bad duder. Hella bad. Mega. Most of these wow streamers didn’t even exist before like 2016. but they all larp as old heads with zero confirmed accomplishments and never having any actual expertise in any aspect of the game. It sucks and blows.
>>584590532Got a chuckle out of me.
>>584583003>Demolock keeps seeming like the way to goGood I was leaning towards rolling Lock anyhow
>>584590605people are working on apl's constantly
come the fuck on
>>584586539You're in WoW threads and you haven't played in 7 years?
None of the names I've came up with fit "Alliance" do I really need to play with Hordetroons?
>Thrall is literally Martin Luther
>>584590605it's based on people making configurationsyou can do it too, there's some leaderboard
>>584590354Anon it’s not healthy to put on a dress and pretend you’re a girl you know..
>Look literally anywhere on the internet>People clowning on the shitty megaserver sharding that completely kill immersion and community in which was supposed to be THE ULTIMATE "immersion and community" version of WoW.Blizzard has never been good at admitting they are wrong.
Most of the shit that women play are mmorpgs, this game and XIV probably has the highest amount of females besides CandyCrush.
>>584590560all of those middle aged women that once played mop are still playing retail and would not touch classic with a ten foot pole.
>>584590594Only if you're a male tauren or orc.
>>584590789Mannoroth = the pope
>>584590789When did he nail 95 theses to the door of the Church of the Light in Stormwind?
what are chinese goldfarmers called in china? goldfarmers
Beta-blast-havers, is it true that Alliance is going to get Dalaran? Does Horde get anything to compensate? I might finally play Alliance with all the elf gooners if this is the case.
>>584590476then no, you'll have more fun with the alliance chuds, white mexican or mystery meat, at least they can joke aroundtoday i saw at least 2 "trans rights are humans rights" in horde pve barrens
>Wanna play a Troll on an RP realm>Trolls almost never have surnamesLOA HELP ME MON WHAT DO I DO
>>584588901>a forum postIf Blizz was a japanese studio, the main dev would be crying during their upcoming livestreamthese guys give zero fucks
>>584590824>look literally anywhere on the internet>its full of bots chinks reds and jeets who hate America and who are actively trying to make America fail by demoralizing its citizens and ruining its economywoah wtfrick guise why is everyone mad at everything Blizzard does???
>>584590931Is this german anti-humor?
>>584580963>Salvation: This ability is no longer a Blessing, so a Paladin can now have a Blessing on the target as well as Salvation.Yay, only need 2 paladins in the raid now.
>>584591037make your own website.
>>584591009A title/class first name maybe? e.g. Hexer
>>584590824Sharding would be fine if it worked better. You should never see people disappear or appear near you
>>584590993I figured
>>584589673dual wielding gives you a higher chance to misson top of that, off hand damage is halved so the dps number on your OH weapon is not the real amount of dps you're doing with ithowever, dual wielding gives you more consistent rage than a slow 2h where you might get a miss/parry/dodge combo where you're stuck with no rage. DW also gives you more overpower procs. Easiest way to compare them is to just play the game and look at your dps
>>584591115too fucking stupid for that my man
>>584591119this, I like seeing names like this in the wild
>>584590031>Shammy>DwUhh explain?
>>584590472>wouldnt a tank make more senseyou have to be an alpha chad to get girls as a tank, like they need to gravitate toward you because of your alpha-ness... the approach of playing the same class as them is better if you are beta like me because you can snake your way into conversations with them easier because you can talk about your class and stuff>oh hey healerina, can i ask you about class stuff? :p:p:pthen she says yes and then you can make her lower her guard and then tell her the new lighting and weather effects make her character look pretty or something and hit it off
Gnomes are for ...?
>>584591119other people will see your first name and call you by that so titles are shitnot to mention when you get an actual title you will have to>Grunt Hexer Zuljin
>>584590572i'll support this guy. he looks like he takes showers and won't turn into a poltard grifter.
>>584591250lol OK, sounds like a plan
>>584591009Can you put Darkspear as a surname?
>>584591269Punting into the sun
>>584591132basically on release, roll whatever faction Olympus rolls into (99% alliance chance), then pick a ruleset that suits your taste
Nah but fr, now that the game is confirmed treadmill. Who leavin who team stayin?
>>584588901This is an ai image btw
>>584591308hes based and knows his shit
>>584591269ogre cocksleeves
Did they nerf Orc and Troll racials yet?
Where are the fucking patch notes
>>584591119>>584591225I was thinking of something like this, but then if you get an actual title it might read strangely or people misread/misunderstand they might think your name is actually Hexxer.
>>584591009Hexer XHeadhunter XBerserker XSeer X
>>584591225>>584591119Please stop giving away my trade secrets, faggots. Next you're going to tell everyone that changing your language when you learn your warlock pet gives them a foreign chink nameBack in my day we kept shit like this on the downlow so we would be cooler than the fags who didn't have our l33t game knowledge.
>>584591427https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/g/blizzard-tracker/activity/postsGo there and spam F5, you fucking homosexual
>>584577807Ally PVP to play with anons, but my true heart will lie with my alt RP toon
>>584591250>if you are beta like mewhy would you self-identify like this? jesus man.
>>584591487>hex u rdy?
>>584591269Cutting up and putting in the spice bag.
>>584590762Claude please bring the servers online and make no mistakes this time!
>>584591009they should give you an option to replace space used to separate forename and surname with another character like the apostropheonly problem is then people will start naming themselves Hitler'Scock
>>584591009>pay for name reservation>"Taz Dingo"
>>584590824I believe absolutely no one at blizzard has ever played, seen, or even heard of another mmorpg that isn't world of warcraft because if they did we wouldn't have this sharding sharting system.The solution is called channels and has been a thing for two fucking decades. Connect to your server, pick an open channel and voila you can play. Too many/not enough players where you're at? Switch to another channel, problem fixed.
>>584591009Johnny Darkspear
>>584591572>my name is [surname], retard
>>584591501>hex u there?>is head coming?>did bers go afk?>got any water to share seer?
Will the game release with heroic and mythic raids?
>>584591250>make her lower her guard and then tell her the new lighting and weather effects make her character look prettygood luck dawg
>>584591571you are right, I am an alpha chad thundercock posting on /wowfg/
>>584591237Does it look like this mace is a 2 hander? Does it look like he'd be a bitch and carry a shield? The answer is no. Shamans were meant to DW
>>584590843Thats not even true. Online lobby-based games like Dead by Daylight/Valorant have way more women playing them
>wegovy showed up todaygonna get skinny while i ding 60 god i love being white and wealthy
>>584589856PvP Podcast day: Players, please pick your Ruleset based on what will cause you to have the most fun and the least harassment, because this is your choice and we're not choosing it for you (retards). Grobbulus was lightning in a bottle, and every attempt to replicate RP-PVP has devolved into just being PVP realms, and the RP community is already pretty small, so to avoid dividing them, there's no intention for RP-PVP ruleset. In general, we want to provide tools and opportunities for organic world pvp, and we want to avoid enforcing rules on how to play (PVP, dungeon-whiners). If you chose a PVP ruleset/server, that was your choice, so if high levels choose to farm low levels, that's part of the experience. Low levels, get your high levels (alts or other people) to respond with counter-PVP if you dislike this. We know phasing has been an issue with zone boundaries, and we are pushing to get as much progress towards fixing that before Launch. Expect us to keep improving this post-Launch, though.Making cool items/interactions is fun, we like doing this, so expect more shit like the stun->movement speed spider trinket, and the potion bag trinket.We generally want one/not a large amount of pvp currencies. If you PVP, you should be able to invest in yourself in all PVP fields, rather than arena-specific, bg-specific, etc. We want to make more hyper-specific things like the Crusader enchant dropping from these mobs, in different areas to encourage people to fight over them out in the world. We want to enforce rarity and low drop rates, to encourage farming and encourage conflict (on PVP ruleset).World-Bosses / resource controls / World Events will case-by-case in terms of instances vs true open world. Plaguelands + Silithus objectives need more oomph from our end to encourage people to show up and get into conflict with each other. We're also trying to do better at adding extrinsic+intrinsic values to going out and doing specific things like capitals
>>584591720>is head coming?
>>584591009>Mon
>>584591184How do I check my dps?>rageI have mana
>>584592102>Name Mon>If people wanna address me or refer to me in any way they are FORCED to speak in a Troll Accent
>>584591808... does it look like he's dual wielding?
>>584591009what kind of names does the beta auto generate for trolls?
>>584591606I look like this
>>584592102>Name Mon>everyone assumes I'm cambodian
>>584592267dual wield THIS!>*unsheaths dirk*
>>584591571Why not be honest about yourself? Not him but I’ve never understood trying to lie to myself that I’m worth anything. An objective analysis of my life shows it’s just not true
>>584591808hell no nigger
Will probably just turn my surname off on a Troll, but it sucks that I'll still need to pick something. Wish the space could be changed to a - or ' for different naming conventions.
>>584592267he actually does since his other hand usually has the reigns of his wolf mount which he controls to attack.
>>584592102>Calamari Mon
>>584591808can you count? Does that look like dual wielding to you, you dumb fuck?one weapon is all a shaman needs as you are barely able to graspdual wielding is for theatrical faggots and larpers
>>584591808i don't mind 2h enh, but being able to dw would be great
>>584590431redpill me on biological females playing hunter
>>584591501with headhunter you can just type hh instead.
>>584592681CUTE KITTY :3Also it plays itself in open world content, quite literally your pet can solo most stuff and if you bother to press your buttons you can solo any elites
>>584592681they are into bestiality and monsterfucking
>>584591808Play retail if you want dw shaman. Shamans were made for using 2 handers.
>>584592795What if I’m playing melee lone wolf hunter
i want to do quest like killing wasps and helping old people fix their porches
>>584589856>>584592071Alterac Valley is going to be reduced in Honor lucretivity, while all the other BGs will be improved in Honor gains, to the point that you should be able to pick which BG you want to play, or whichever one has a Weekend Event, and focus on that BG rather than think AV is always most optimal. No hard decision on Resources/Timers in BGs. "We want them to be fun, and not be miserable. We don't want one team just eating the other team's time." Full-team pre-mades are intended to face off against other full-team pre-mades, while 2-5-man groups are fine with getting placed against other solos/small groups. We do want the War Games system to be working, not sure if it will be ready by Launch, but will be soon after Launch at worst. There is ZERO intent to give any currency/reward to the War Games system.The Community Tournament: They're aware, they sped-up a quickie instanced hole in the ground map that has future use, but is offered to be used for the tournament in beta. They will have vendors and cooldown reset NPC and soul shards etc etc in this map. Notably, Chris Metzen doesn't give a shit about class balancing in regards to this tournament. Aggrend tried to mention some level 30 interaction to him and is told "I don't care about that shit."The intent of this instanced dueling pit is not to be open all the time, or to replace people dueling outside Orgrimmar/Stormwind, but when organic events get organized, for there to be an officially-offered option for the playerbase to make use of. Probably anti-griefing concerns.Aggrend: "Turns out: Penance is just good."
>>584592575Literally just pretend. Its not hard. Faggot.
can someone explain to me a good reason for withholding the patch notes for the entirety of the downtime?
>>584592681You have to use your brain sometimes and think. They'd have to redesign the entire spec to balance around either 2h slow procs or fast dual wield procs. One would turn out to be better than the other and people would be forced into it. If you want retail dual wield, play retail.
>>584592993They need to check with their bosses (streamers) to make sure the changes are ok.
Why are you people being retarded this isn’t retail shaman can dw and use 2h this is such a gay argument for the sake of it
>>584550645my thread got 1k upvotes on reddit guys, now fatass Aggrend will definitely buff quest rewards
>>584592993not ready
>>584592993The patch notes are a lie
>>584593114I'm proud of you, bro. You did good.
>>584574412I hate that shit.Happened to me ALL the time when i was ally on retail over the yearsI'd see horde players too fighting mobs and let them live and wave and shut and then they'd gank me when I'm fighting a mob.And then I camped their ass for how dishonourable that shit was. Fucking rats dude. Orcs and undead were the worst for thisAnd hunters and locks and rogues for the most common classes to do this
>>584590428Yeah that's what I was thinking too
>>584592681My ex did. Nothing else over ten years. They like hunters. Basically women want to fuck animals I guess.
>>584584230scoscoscoscoscoscosco burpp
>>584593291>exLeave
>>584593291that or they like to watch as their animals rape other women they dont like
>>584593107How about you dual wield these nuts if you have such a desire for it
>>584593114ima just link him these posts on 4chan, he’ll change his mind :)
>>584593291your ex is a man
>>584593107Nah, its made for dual wielding in retail just like they fucked over frost dk to make it dual wield. If you want to dual wield rogues and warriors are right there.
>>584593680>>584593680>>584593680>>584593680New Bread.
how long was the server down last time?
>>584584018the bosses would always just get kited to the entrance cave where they would be melted by the hyperspawning elite guards
>>584593559Point to where I said that>>584593693I don’t care about retail
>>584588901Just refunded, fuck this incompetent company
>>584593795>i dont care about retail>i just want the game to play like retail
>>584580362legit we had it good back then remember going to outland and every dungeon was just 5 DKs stomping through everything, the were just so op and everybody knew it and was laughing, nowadays we would have 50 reaction videos day one .... "this is a problem", "blizzard needs ro fix this", like anything important is actually at stake, it is a game bro....
