>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Previous Thread >>584577473
why isnt grubby playing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnhJe-oeQchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnhJe-oeQchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnhJe-oeQcALEX WITHOUT FILTERS: FOREVER IS SHITE AND YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY IT
wow just doesn't feel the same with all the trannies and niggers around
>>584608521Doesn't he only play WC3?
Damn, man. These girls are desperate.
real classic + here!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045PkyAUw_Y&list=RD045PkyAUw_Y&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045PkyAUw_Y&list=RD045PkyAUw_Y&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045PkyAUw_Y&list=RD045PkyAUw_Y&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045PkyAUw_Y&list=RD045PkyAUw_Y&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045PkyAUw_Y&list=RD045PkyAUw_Y&start_radio=1
>>584608554
>>584608521hots got revampedwhy play shitty blizzard games when he can promote his love, drum up support, and bring it back to life
>>584608085Why not? I do it just fine
patch notes when?
Join <FUN HAVERS> at launchALLIANCE NA **PVE**>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever>ill be running morning weekend raidsi got convinced to go pve, you got meif you want a dead discord until nov 4thhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w
>>584608427>>584608427That's the point dumdum, it keeps all the wannabe streamers and l33t tryhard 13 year olds and browns away from our pvre and sovlfvll millenial daycare(now nursing home) game.
QRD on Alensensual? Why do people glaze this random faggot so hard?
>>584608554the fact that reddit doesnt like it, blizzforum retail faggots are crying about it, and turtlewowfags have to make 'influencer' videos about likely means this shit is ganna be K I N O
>>584608586
Reminderhttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302072
>>584608713It's one faggot who shills him here (probably Alex himself)
Where will the ERP be on Forever?
>>584608713He’s a nost vet.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL + ERA IS THRIVING
>>584608606>Puppygirl>"girls"
>>584608652>pve
STOP GRINDING SO FAST PLEASE STOP GRINDING SO FAST YOU HAVE TO ENJOY THE JOURNEY
>>584608606isnt that a tranny
SOD-
BLIZZARD!!!GIVE ME OGRES!!!AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!
>>584608690>>584607108>>584606502Someone please for the love of Jehovah, spend your slop token(s) on getting this child into a scene with the negroid from DBZ. I'm talking about something silly and/or a DBZA reference, not porn, you fucking degenerates
>>584608785RP realm, Goldshire Inn, come after dark.
>>584608735>most clickbaity thumbnails/titles of all timehow the mighty have fallen
>>584608579This but unironically. Forever will never recapture the feel of the pre-brownoid infested, pre-OWS internet community.
>>584608826pve is epic
>>584608785The new tavern in the Wetlands.
>>584608785Same place it has always been, Goldshire Inn on RP servers.
>>584608845no blizzkike i will play for a month, i will sub the 10th get to 60 and do the raids once on the 9th then unsub
>>584608792you should head on down to /wowcg/ then
>>584608785RP server like always
>>584608897
>>584608913Listen here, fat.I'm the one who posts Carl around here.
>>584608652Nice! I will play tank and you have to take me.
>>584608467I agree that trans women are cringe but you don't have to be obsessed about it, anon.
>>584609065
They should just layer by race
>>584608554>endgame content is raidlogging>already backtracked on the horizontal progression bitlmfao you goys deserve this
>>584608870>I'm talking about something silly and/or a DBZA referenceYeah, do this dbz reference.
What vidya do I play for 20 days?
>>584608579>>584608897>>584609061It will when Vance wins the next election and Microsoft gets the a-okay from their masters to resegregate Western e-spaces from the rest of the world
Having a blast waiting for mob and ore respawns on PvE
How does Blizzard have defenders on 4chan in 2026?
hunter is going to be overplayed. Ranged and melee specs and a pure dps class. literally only 1 weapon difference gear wise. Dont feel like doing mechanics tonight? fuck it play rangedAnyways yeah im playing hunter
>>584608606Names literally advertising your porn page won't get flagged for moderation?
>>584609221play through every resident evil except for 5 and 6 unless you have a buddy to play them with
>>584609282What’s it called when you see such a shit take you unironically side with troonzard?
>>584608554it took him 3 weeks to realize they were gonna cater to streamers? when they invited that furfag and teh fat shitskin to play test this 6 months ago? at least he got his refund i guess
>>584609221CK3. Or consider touching grass. I'm doing neither.>>584609195That is a literal child you monster>>584609183
>>584609298>tfw always played hunter in classic but i like being a special snowflake too much to play this timewhy must the herd all play hunter >:(
>>584608554I was hoping that there would be more dads and less zoomies in WoW forever. But the amount of influencer posting lets me know that you faggot zoomies are here in force. I hope you all enjoy never owning a home.
>>584609298hunter, while piss easy and attractive to play for many troglodytes, does have multiple degrees of nuance and skill that can be expressed, which makes it possible to actually set yourself apart from the shitter hunters if you're competent.
I wanted to play a blue elf rogue on launch, but if the game really is as shit at they claim it is, I guess I'll stick to being an ordinary human rogue.
What should I play until launch? No tranny games only chud games please or I will enforce a 3 day ban.
>>584608606fat bear ass
we need fresh vanilla with GDKP and worldbuffs
Servers still down?
>>584609484Mount and Blade: Warband
>>584609484that nigger shootter game
The constant ass kissing to streamers is getting annoying, not gonna lie
>>584608870IDK who the fuck that is
>>584609484Uninstall Wizard
>>584609484I will play:STALKER GammaThe new DD2 expansionModded SkyrimThe Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno
>looking over my character planning excel sheet>realize my Horde characters are a tauren druid, 3 trolls, and an elf rogue (whos only going to 25 to get legacy point + craft thistle tea for druid)Taking suggestions for alternate an alternate race for a mage, hunter, or warlock.
it's just sod with better graphics
Post elves being bred by orcs
Post orcs being bred by elves
>>584609725Anon, as a straight white male I implore you to stop obsessing over trans people. It genuinely was an Epstein psyop, I'm begging you to outwit the jew.
>>584609484do you genuinely think youre any different than a tranny
>>584609807Is butt stuff fine?https://files.catbox.moe/8jdwt6.jpg
>>584609837
>>584609748Thistle Tea can be used ba cats now?
>>584609690>doesn't know DBZNot sure why I'm surprised that the pedophiliac Whitemane jeet is also a faggot.Now that I've insulted you, get to sloppin' please.
>>584609929Yeah, I don't live my life believing something that isn't real, I don't take hormones, I didn't castrate myself, and I dont embarrass my family living out some impossible fantasy.
who here kirking up they floyd?
>>584609797nah we don't have to wait an entire year to actually start playing the game.
>>584609484rimworld
>>584609736Why is Skyrim listed twice
I can't believe they abandoned my beloved mop realms for this slop ...
>>584610053NTA but>vague description given>more than one person fits the bill of 'negroid' in DBZ>DBZA references
>no level cap>no pvp restrictionswhy did aggrend sell out to Big Chud?
Which race/class for this feel?
it's called world of warcraft, not dungeons of warcraft
>>584610239female tauren druid
>>584610201Its a 50/50 between Piccolo and Popo.DBZA was funny when I was 12 so its funny when I'm dontworryboutit, fuck you.
WHY DOES THIS PLACE HAVE SO MANY CHUDS?????WE HATE ASMON CHUDS HERE
>>584610340asmon isn't a trve chud
>>584610340Calm down Barny
>>584609909
>>584610315I respect you sticking to your guns, anon. I still think you're a fucking dweeb, but I respect you.
SISTERS WTF WHY IS 4CHAN FULL OF CHUDS? UMMMM KINDA ICK RIGHT?
8 sleepies until pochie reborn
>>584608467<Remigration> is recruiting for>horde>pvp>20m group>10m group>esthttps://discord.gg/8M6pV7Aes
>>584610340Kys faggot. This is our general and you're just an unwanted guest and parasite on humanity in general.
>>584610340>>584610401>>584610406>mfw we're being raidedOh no I'm hope no underage asmoniggers cum in my bussy and get me bregnant and I have to get a boibortion.
>>584610401>>584610406kys asmon chuds
Kill yourself op
>>584610340I really wish I could see what this poster looked like kek
I will turn this game further and further into retail…You’re Warcraft… my choice… Forever…
>>584610406shut it chud
hello, blacks
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING PATCH NOTES
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6
>>584610583what a fucking ghoul
>>584610489>>584610557asmon is hated in the wow community. He gets laughed at everywhere. Kys asmon chuds, people WILL get the extension to shut your loser guild up
>>584609152Does Onyxia count as trans, given the dragonussy?
>>584608554The Alex melty cycle:>Shows up again to hype up the next Blizz release(begrudgingly)>Gets gaslit from his viewers into starting shit with other streamers and shitting on the game>Eventually disappears and swears off Blizzard games forever after everything blows up in his face>RepeatProbably my favorite wow content creator
>Quickness: Movement speed increase now stacks with other movement speed increases.>Quickness: Movement speed increase now stacks with other movement speed increases.NELFIE CHADS
>>584610623>>584610626RIP horde racials
>>584610654Kek I'm not a parasocial retard but Asmon is absolutely based and the only criticism anyone ever has is "B-BUT HE LOVES ISRAEL" which is completely wrong.
>>584609298Im a melee lone wolf hunter. How is this approach in forever?
>>584610583would>>584610603>>584610623>>584610626what a f5
Ahaha Shatter curse, more like nerfed curse.
Crocolisk bros....
>>584610420based
HUMANCHADS STAND SUPREME GET FUCKED HORDE PLAYERS LMFAO
>>584610623>raid wide totemsAHAHA rip shamans
>thought i was finished with online school>have to take a music appreciation courseAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Post character and song!
>Wind Blessed: Haste bonus increased to 3% (was 1%).P2W class
>>584610623>>584610626TL;DR?
>>584610768>Asmon is absolutely based
>>584610951shaman losthorde lost
kek
>Fixed an issue with various Horde characters holding the Night Watchman’s Torch.Motherfuckers.
>>584610864>>584610916This some newfangled bot or something?
>>584610956Name one thing you disagree with him on
good bye racials
>Find Treasure: Now also grants a chance to find additional items in most chests.DORF KEEP WINNINGGGG
>>584610654I'm not an transmongold fan tranny abomination
>removed Tauren %1 hit chanceLeast I know now not to make one of those clunky fuckers.
totems are raid wide keeeeeeeeek
>>584611046Dwarf rogue about to be BiS bros
>Touch of the Dead now has a 30% chance to activate for casters and a 20% chance to activate for Paladins/Rogues/Warriors, as well as a 25 second internal cooldown.RIP undead
>>584610623>>584610626Instantly ruin the game even before launch, cool.
>>584608554lol wasn't he saying how cool it was that they were going to add housing to forever yesterday and glazing the shit out of the devs.
Omen of Clarity: Fixed a bug where this could be triggered by Faerie Fire while in Cat Form, Bear Form, or Dire Bear Form. Since Faerie Fire costs no resources in those forms, it cannot trigger Omen of Clarity.Faerie Fire: Now generates threat while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form (instead of just initiating combat at 0 threat).lmao furs
wha da hell mon
>>584609934>https://files.catbox.moe/8jdwt6.jpgbroken link
Priest gear is Warlock gear
>Shatter Curse: Now dispels Curses and Banes (was granting immunity). Magic damage taken reduced by 5% (was 15%).>Blood Fury: Cooldown increased to 3 minutes (was 2 minutes).HORDE NIGS NERFED INTO THE GROUNDHUMAN RACIALS UNTOUCHED
SKYBORNE BEAUTY AND QOL ENJOYERSWECANTSTOPWINNING
>Cultivation: Cooldown reduced to 15 minutes (was 60 minutes).Fucking took them long enough, and even still it's kind of a shit racial
>raidwide buffsLMAOMAO
>Not only did they not remove tauren cultivation, they buffed itpls
>Frost Blast: This new spell is learned at level 24. It deals damage and slows the target’s movement by 40%. It has a 1.5 second cast time
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHBLIZZARD FUCKED UP BIG TIME, PEOPLE ARE REFUNDING ON MASS.https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x6u2c5/entire_alliance_raid_on_orgrimmar_completely/
>>584611178fuck i want to play a troll warrior so bad but i dont want to be horde
> Grace of Air Totem, Strength of Earth Totem, Windfury Totem, and Flametongue Totem are now Raid wide.
>>584611220Orcs also got a pure 1% crit chance increase instead of the garbage 1% if you have an axe equipped. For warlocks and mages this is just an overall buff.
QRD: Are these racial changes super good for one specific race?
they're gonna remove weapon skills, 100%
>>584611324now that shaman is dead. what do i roll?
griefinf in wpvp is a contentious issue but what does wowf think?should a low level horde player be ganked just for trying to cross the border into an alliance zone?
As a rogue main I'm actually struggling to understand how we will be the "best ST dps" by their stated goal. Because from everything shown in our kit, nothing points to that.
>>584611341That's cope. Orc and undead were both handed huge nerfs for any class.
>Enhancement Shaman Nerfs>Rogue untouchedPack it up boys, this shit aint ready for release.
warstomp 90 seconds wahoooooo!
>>584611408Paladin
>shaman totems are raid widelmao they really do hate this class.
Uh oh, sorry enh/ele shaman we already have our designated warrior buffer and he casts chain heal.
good luck catching me on my nelfie now
>>584611324wait really?????
if you aren't play human rogue what r u even doing with ur life
>>584611418Should they, on principle? No, but I'm gonna do it anyway if I'm bored enough
Reminder to not invite anyone using foid models into your guild or group. They are most likely trannies. Even if they aren't you will still avoid interacting with 100% of trannies by doing this.
>>584610812That's it?I'm still not playing an alliance warlock.
>tauren win>trolls win>elves still kinda trash but whatever>metagamer orcs in shambles>zombiechuds seething>dwarfchads winLETS FUCKING GO
>MageFrost Blast: This new spell is learned at level 24. It deals damage and slows the target’s movement by 40%. It has a 1.5 second cast time, and is affected by all talents that affect Frostbolt.Developers’ notes: The purpose of this spell is to provide the functionality formerly granted by Rank 1 Frostbolt despite the penalization of “down-ranking”. It does have a higher Mana cost and deals a little more damage as well.Ice lance and FOF wasn't enough?
>>584611324>they would rather make windfury raid wide than give alliance elf or draenei shamanLMAO
>>584611552nyuunzi my goat
>Vampiric Embrace cant be resisted>30s cd from 1 minute
>>584611324i just got my mace from shammy quest and went 11/0 in battlegrounds one shotting clothies, am due for a buff
TOTAL HORDE GENOCIDE LMAO
>>584611635>>tauren winNah they killed plainsrunning since you cant keep it while turning in quests.
>>584610623>>584610626>replaced every weapon racial with generic crit racialwhy do they insist on removing every bit of flavor this game has before launch
>Totems Raid Wide>Fire Nova nerfed to fuck >Mana made worseThey genuinely despise enhancement shaman don't they
>>584611595Unless it's a gnome, gnome players are either metafaggots for Eureka!, or just shitposters.
>>584611662Goat, indeed
>>584611719Wrong. I'm jacking it to my gnome.
>Elemental Mastery: This talent has returned as the new 31-point gold medal talent. Reduces the cast time of Lightning Bolt and Lava Burst by 0.5 seconds and removes the cooldown from Chain Lightning for 15 seconds. 3-minute CD. Lava Burst is pre-requisite.HOLY BLAASSTT
>>584611718They really didn't want to give shadow good damage huh
Just make it so killing players way below your level gives dishonorable kills.BUT. To prevent players from exploiting it to purposefully give dishonorable kills to others, there should also be a combatant/civilian status system where you no longer count as a dk if you're pvping yourself or intentionally hanging around in pvp hotspot areas.
>>584608554$1000 says hes back for launch
Dorf is better but they raped Shamans. What the fuck.
>>584608554bigly trvkes dropped forever DoA confirmed
>>584611595we get it, you like men.
>>584611718>make totems raidwide>but make this only partywidelmao
>>584611824they cant because they did this >>584611718100% uptime gigaheals
Tauren racials seem fun, I think I'll make a Tauren Warr my first alt over NElf rogue.
>>584611883totems are not raidwide tho
>>584611235WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN
>rogue remains untouched*sigh*
>>584611718So now a shadow is a must bring in any fight where healer mana might be a problem. They also made it so shadow can grab 10% int from the disc tree
>>584611803>doesnt guarantee crit>still the nerfed as fuck chain lightning with the fucked up spell power co that does no damage
>WOAAHHHH!!!! LOOK AT THIS HECKIN WPVP!!!>*layers*>well... that just happened
>>584611184Catbox is fucky in the UK, does this one work?https://postimg.cc/cgg81ZR1Can't believe it's so difficult to share my Nelf's anal adventures.
why does everyone keep saying they nerfed enhancement? Isnt it literally just a big fix??
Which would you rather have? >current state of constant correction because of perceived issues and often overcorrectingor>the old standard of "nothing is going to change from beta, this is what we're stuck with"
>Water Shield: Can now trigger from any critical spell cast by the Shaman (was only critical heals).ok i maelstrom now
Are all 3 totem buffs necessary? (Earth, grace, windfury)
ELF SHAMANS ON ALLIANCE WHEn
is ally warlock playable now
>>584611930>3% hastep2w race
>>584611986I'd rather have a refund.
>>584611957works, litter.catbox works too but for some reason files. doesnt
>orc and undead nerfed into the groundThank god
>remove downranking frostbolt>give mages fucking ice lance>GIVE MAGES FROST BLAST TO REPLACE DOWNRANKED FROSTBOLT???These devs are absolute cucks, listening to psychopathic out-of-touch streamers. Game is DOA.
>>584611235>>584611930>leyline passive still useless for alliance roguesblizzard can suck my left nut
>>584611924Yes they are
>>584612034Yes, you can play pve.
>Wind Blessed: Haste bonus increased to 3% (was 1%).and there it is. best pve dps racial is behind a paywall. tokens by march.
>>584611930>murder someone as rogue in one global>run to the highest hill and nimbus cloud awaybaaaaased
>Blizzard: we don't want warriors to scale so much and be OP>also Blizzard: your entire guild needs to throw money, buffs, ench, pots, to the warrior to progress>he also gets first pick in gearMake it so you don't need STR/ATK to keep aggro, it's that wasy.
today is like the second internment camps for orcoids
>>584612034Yes. UD and Orcs nerfed bigly. Will of the forsaken removes a fear, just fear them twice, gg. Orc racial removes your 1 curse and 1 bane, but you can just reapply them since no CD.Human is now BIS (defensive) and gnome is now BIS (offensive) for warlock in PvP.
>Tranquil Air Totem, Windfury Totem, and Grace of Air Totem no longer stack together even if used by different Shamans in the same group.what does it mean
>>5846119303% haste seems way too strong. Does that impact gcd?
>>584611986300% constant corrections, hot-fixes, sudden upset patches, and terrified raiders going week to week in a state of uncertainty and prayer. Keep that shit coming without warning and let the playerbase fear the mercurial whims of the devs.The only other thing I could ask for is for the devs to include a screenshot of a random streamer each time they reveal one of these patch notes, without a single explanation, just the implication that it is that streamer's fault.
>>584608579in my guild of 35 people in 2004. there were two trannies and 2 black people and 1 muslim and like a handful of gays. and like 15 edgelord racist white manbabies.
>>584611983WF totem raid wide.
>>584612069stun reduction racial still the same. still rolling orc.
>>584611983WF totem being raidwide means there's no point to bring any shaman except for a resto shaman.
>>584612167What did they nerf for UD?
>>584612070ice lance damage will be nerfed 100%, don't worry. they're nerfing everything
reminder that wow for consoles was leaked by based brazilean government agency again just like metroid ravenous was some months agowe are coming home, Switch 2 bros, we are ready to join the 'eck on 'ick sisters soon
>>584611957>https://postimg.cc/cgg81ZR1yeah that worked
TURTLE WOW DIED FOR THIS
they just added retail racials to tauren and dwarf lol ....
>>584612274>>584612234where does it say its raid wide?
Why are the threads so fucking active today? One thread used to be able to last like a day, now they last 30 minutes.
>>584612189>2004>two tranniesOh look guys! the Zoomer is trying to fit in! He doesn't know.
Why did Blizzard add layering to this game again?
>>584609243it will be a segregation of poor people and the rich and you will be part of the poor, retard. just like real life.
Get the FUCK out of my city noshoes
>>584612167>Human is now BIS (defensive) and gnome is now BIS (offensive) for warlock in PvP.Utter nonsense. No Alliance race has any answer to fear or curses. The two most common Horde races do.>But it can be dealt with!And a Horde warlock will never have to.
>>584612335Retard>>584611547
>>584612335Grace of Air Totem, Strength of Earth Totem, Windfury Totem, and Flametongue Totem are now Raid wide.
>>584611983>enter WC as dps>healer leaves half way>everyone just stares at me and /p's>YOU CAN HEAL RIGHT BRO???>if it was the tank>YOU CAN TANK RIGHT BRO???HYBRID tax, enjoy being resto only in raids
>rogues can still print endless gold with their class quest >taurens can duplicate black lotuses every 15 minutes The economy is going to be fucked.
what in the AI are these patch notes? are these passives really going to give 2% critical "damage" or do they actually mean crit chance?
>>584611930they stuck horde with the shitty movement speed how sad. 30s of double mana regen is solid for ally tho
>>584612269it's 20% less duration, not 25% chance to resist. it's 1s off of a 6s HoJ. nothing.meanwhile humans can remove the stun completely>>584612282added huge internal CD to their new racial. 25s long. its trash now>>584612384immunity is an "answer" a simple removal is not, since curses don't have CDs.gnome and human are just straight better now. seethe
AHAHAHHAHA GET FUCKED PALAKEKS!
>>584612318>crossfaction pve serverturdle was less of a true warcraft experience than current retail, at least that has warmode
>>584612438>rogues can still print endless gold with their class questWhat now?
>>584612068>>584612314Alright good, will use these instead of catbox from now on then, thanks, enjoy Elf booty!https://postimg.cc/FfGMZdB5
>>584612348So they can save money on their Amazon hosting costs by dynamically increasing or reducing their usage.
>>584612438>oh no, not the economy of a beta that lasts for 15 more days!!!
>>584612274Well you still need grace and earth don't you?
All these paladin buffs quite nice
>8 seconds of 10% bonus damageYEEEES
>>584612564Obviously I'm concerned about the launch that's happening in three weeks?
>Endurance: Now grants 2% increased critical damage and healing (was 1% hit chance).Haven't played the beta. Was this really necessary?Also,>Wind Blessed: Haste bonus increased to 3% (was 1%).Lmao, pay up parsers.
>>584612557so why are people excited for wow forever when any social experience will just get fucked by layering?
>>584611046I wasn't sure if I was going to go dorf but now I am. Still have to consider classes though.
>>584612182>The only other thing I could ask for is for the devs to include a screenshot of a random streamer each time they reveal one of these patch notes, without a single explanation, just the implication that it is that streamer's fault.lmfao. made me spit out my hot pocket.
>>584612589gnomes are now necessary for dps checks
>>584612589So does it affect my periodic damage now?
>>584608554Damn bro, this is dire.
GET FUCKED CASTERS
>>584612450Yes, it's 2% more damage on crits. This is the exact same racials they have in retail (they are really strong in retail)
Every single patch nerfed tank paladin, it's especially bad this time with consecration gutted and spell damage from going ret cut in half.Now Paladin is clearly the worst tank, why do they hate it so much...
>All these racial changes>Trolls get 10% extra in combat health regenMon dis be a joke de be fuckin cuckin us mon de loa laughin at me I get 10% haste for 10 seconds every 3 minute and dem blue elves get 3% all de time
>>584612638You don't really get layered much unless you join/leave a group or change zones. It's annoying as hell but its avoidable.
>>584612465So the life steal can only happen once every 25 seconds? Fucking gay as shit for something that doesn't proc that often to begin with.
>>584612350I would take being segregated with my local poors over being segregated with global richers any day of the week, jeet.
>>584609192>already backtracked on the horizontal progression bitwhat happened? the fuck? that's the only reason I'm even interested in this game
>>58461271420% persistent regen is gonna be massive, best warrior for prot farming
>Blood Fury cd now always lines up with rage of the farseer
>>584612465>gnome and human are just straight better nowThey're not, not because of what they get, but because they have to fight undead and orcs, and orcs/undead/trolls do not.
>>584608554Isn't this the guy who died to a hunter 5 levels lower than him? someone post the video
big nothing burger patch to be honest
>>584612465>it's 20% less duration, not 25% chance to resist. it's 1s off of a 6s HoJ. nothing.Love all the retards who think new Orc racial is bad when it's been what they'd had on retail for close to 2 decades and has been a top tier pvp pick the entire time.
>>584611719I play male gnome rogue because I like lotr
>>584611546this is a good change thonobody wants to be forced into having 4 shammies in every raidbring the player, not the class
>>584612714Spirit stacking troll warlock is new meta
>Forced to roll horde skelf because every other horde race has shit racials
>>584612808yeah if you play a class with a 3 min cd this ''nerf'' is completely irrelevant lmao
so raids only need 1 shaman now?
>>584612771The proc chance was buffed, 30% cast, 20% melee. But with the internal CD, it'll be popping once every 30s more or less.>>584612841Human and gnome racials are better both in a vacuum and also taking into account the orc/undead matchup. Read the patch notes lil gup. An orc removing curse of agony now means nothing, you just reapply it.
>>584612697Yeah paladin is ass now. They gave them back the 90% RF threat, but killed consecrate and retribution aura. I won't be touching that shitty class.Druid and warrior are superior.
that human racial was a buff, now instead of having to use a sword i can use whatever weapon i want
>>584612343back in the day people used to post their real life photos and talk about themself online in the private guild forums. you'd know if you were alive back then, projectionist.
>3 lines about warrior>pages and pages for every other class
the raped, aka shaman
>DON'T WORRY BROS ROGUE WILL BE THE BIG DPS GODS JUST WAIT BROS IT'S COMING BROS>look inside>rogue nerfs
Be honest, is wow forever the next big MMO that will go on strong for years or will it get forgotten in a few months after GTA 6 releases and will only be remembered as a streamerslop fomo game?
Total Zugger Death.
does human racial work for spell crit now toobig if true
Reminder that WOWF is a live game with devs who actually give a shit, unlike Classic or Retail. These changes are not permanent, and some things may be changed around or even removed by the time we get to launch unlikely, but who the hell knows. I for one think it's a good thing for devs to stress to players that they should play the race/class they enjoy, instead of the one they think is best.
Should I just go warrior at this point? Is learning threat hard?
>>584612881>b-but retaillmao copehordenigs are absolutely SEETHING at this justified GIGA NERF>>584612993humans and gnomes both got a buff. now they've got the best racials in the game
>>584612993>that human racial was a buffeinstein over here
>>584612947Maybe 2. One drops windfury and one drops grace of air.
>>584612947Yeah, and ontop of that they murdered the class so theres no reason to even play them. Good luck even finding one.
>>584612928You still need 3
>Devouring Plague cooldown reduced to 24 seconds (was 1 minute).shadow priest is so back
Looks like I'm maining priest after all, fuck. Not looking forward to wanding for 40 levels
>totem buffs now raid wideRIP my guaranteed raid spot as a dwarf shaman
>3% hasteblue elfs won bigly
>human crit racial 2x better than any other race for no reason >thisisfine.jpg
>Fire Nova was literally the only good spell enh shaman had that isn't windfury procs>raped and gaped>Enh shaman was already struggling with mana>Fix stormstrike having a low mana cost
>>584613124Can't wait for all the posts next month from salty alliance rogues crying how their stun chain doesn't work vs orcs.
They need to make flametongue totem stack with WF now.
>>584613195Looks like the main raid might be the 20mans so you're fine
so did they ruin my arcane mage dream? do i gotta go gnome now or something?
>>584613195Raids are 10man, Dwarf Shaman will definitely be less than 1 in 10, your raid spot is safe, if anything you'll be a hot commodity
>>584613302stun chain can be adjusted for orcs. meanwhile, horde rogues have to deal with 40% of alliance straight removing their 6s kidney shot, lmao.
>nobody plays mages>nerf them anywayslol wtf
>Retribution Aura will now dynamically update its values based on the caster’s spell powerIf you want to pull a wowhobbs and stack a ton of spellpower and equip a skull flame shield you'll be able to aoe down huge packs of enemies.
Is S.Priest good now?
>>584613314we already knew 20 was the main raid and 10 were for casual groups and 40 for the memes
>>584613324Arcane mage is fucking gay
>>584612969Obviously the adjustments are going to continue in the future, so all the nerfs during the beta don't have to mean much, but this still makes me reconsider playing prot paladin. If paladins aren't supposed to have good spellpower scaling, then what ARE they supposed to have? Block chance from proc was nerfed from 30% to 20%, aura and consecration scaling cut in half, mana return nerfed significantly, scaling from int cut from 100% to 30%... everything that could be part of prot paladin's unique identity was gutted during the beta.
>>584613270human lowkirkuinely best racials in the game now
why are we using the schizo thread
>>584613291Take water shield
>>584613419>we
>>584613270>tauren and dwarf have 2% crit damage>skelves 3% haste>orc 1% crit AND blood furyHow exactly is human strictly better?
>was planning on rolling lock>fAggrend can't seem to get Xaryu's dick out of his mouthShould I just bend the knee, magebros? What does Dalaran have that my shitty sewer hideout doesn't?
>>584613406>nobody plays mageswhy lie?
Noshoes on suicide watch
>Paladins now also learn Revoke when Salvation is learned. Revoke removes target party or raid member’s Salvation or Mass SalvationForeverfags confirmed too dumb for right clicking buffs off.
>>584613168Shadow priest got massive buffs while disc got a slight nerf (5% less int) and holy got nothing
>Find Treasure: Now also grants a chance to find additional items in most chestsgonna get all the chests as a dwarf
>>584613472>locks buffed and mages nerfedwhat are you on about?
>>584613441t. tranny abomination
>>584612949Enjoy your Alliance warlock and try not to think, every time an undead uses WotF, that you might have never had to deal with it if only you chose the other faction.
my gf is playing a skelf (horde) priest and im playing a skelf warlock
Who got raped the most with the patch?
>>584613559Kill yourself Op
>>584613428The block was added to holy shield
>>584613562Enjoy your Horde warlock and try not to think, every time anyone uses a stun or slow/root/immobilize, that you might have never had to deal with it if only you chose the other faction.
>alliance parties now have to do this weird ritual where the dwarf opens the chest first then you roll on it
>>584613487>implying trollock well, just lock in general, really won't be secretly busted, but no one will realize it until 2 months in when warlocks start getting gearngmi
>>584613541erm, you like, didn't roll for that chest, which is like, totally ninja looting, so we're kicking you now.
UPDATE NOW
All the problems in the game and they make a fucking PvP Episode on their podcast.The tournament is a fucking mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmkhP4wC32ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNiR-QmilLUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tYiZrBs-U0How the fuck are these faggots able to get on but I cannot?
>>584613653People have already tested Trollock, its not busted
Looks like priest is going to be a safe pick for good healing and dps.
ITS UPLOGINLOGINLOGINLOGIN
>>584613623not op but you're definitely a disgusting tranny freak that has embarrassed everyone that actually cared about you
>>584613574Ok it's time to filter you. Get a new bit.
>>584613674its a useless skill since everything green and up gets rolled on now even rogue chestswooo i just got an extra cheese
>>584613652>every dungeon party needs a token dwarfHoly kino
>>584613117>Reminder that WOWF is a live game with devs who actually give a shitNo they fucking don't. Every single update is them taking fun things out of the game like druids using cosmetic food in form or taking out the booty bay gun or taking out the ogre / murloc food while nerfing classes that already sucked further into the ground and buffing alliance even more because people were screaming about horde pvp racials during the giant fucking horde only pvp tournament. If they wanted to stress players to play the class / race they enjoy just entirely remove racials because you can never balance them, there will always be a bis race.But they already announced two whole 30 dollar cosmetic bundles to buy though before the games even out! They totally care! Stupid nigger.
Wait, so do humans just now have an extra 2% crit on EVERYTHING?
Do hunters still have mortal strike and curse of tongues?
>>584613772half the thread is mei have bits coming out of my ear holes
>>584608554Wait you can still refund, I'm gonna try it.
>3% passive hasteCleary they didn't have anywhere close to the amount of SKelf preorder packs sold as they wanted to. What a shameless company.
>>584613652Watch it be made a party wide buff unless the dwarf can still open the chest and get the extra loot
>>584613554Okay but they give mages actual buttons and shit.With locks its just boring numbers changes.Probably because fAggrend can't get Xaryu's cock out his mouth.
>>584613810
>>584613834Yes but nerfed versions
>kinda want the yearlong sub just for the little murlocfuuuuuck they're gonna fomo me before it even launches?
>>5846134682% crit chance > 2% crit damageskelf and orc might still mog
>>584613736Druid is the safe pick for healing. But Shaman being raid-wide is going to hurt the demand and Holy Paladin has questionable output at the moment for a healer. Priest will be tried and true because you can just wand yourself to the finish line and PoM is good and PI is always wanted.
>>584613767kill yourself op
>>5846134682% crit is obviously better than 2% crit damage or 3% haste (im just talking passives here, I think it's ok including other stuff)
>>584613652i'm amazed they doubled down on that racial
>>584613195>only need 1 shaman>only meed 1 warrior>still need 2 druids
>>584613885Human rogue once again, as god intended
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO MY KEYBINDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>584613881they gave mage a button to use instead of frostbolt rank 1, but we're just going to use frostbolt rank 1
Isn't haste a retail stat?
>Yfw your racial didnt get nerfed
What do I want more for Holy PaladinCrit chance or Crit damage/healsBasically am I Human or Dwarf?
so trolls now have 24% hp regen in combat? spirit stacking build are back bros
>>58461383425% heal reduction with less uptime As someone playing hunter i think its a good chance
>>584613936We both know you're the only one who will eventually and inevitably kill themselves here
>>584613642Roots are rarely ever a factor. I recommend you pick human.But the stun removal is overrated, probably because people compare the racial to its superior WotLK version. There's a lot less stuns than you'd expect and many are so short that using the ability does nothing since it itself costs a global cooldown.
>>584613652People should stop rolling on chests. It's cringe. Only the green usually has any value.
>Added to the tooltip for Divine Aegis what the maximum value for the shield isSomeone with beta post a screenshot of this
>>584614078Kill yourself op
now that night elf quickness actually stacks I want to go warrior or druidbut will I be griefing myself as a warrior for not taking the unconditional 2% crit? there's no longer the sword cope...
>>584613901Take the plunge sis! what's 1 year in the grand scheme of FOREVER! haha.This game will definitely be active and relevant 1 year from now!
>>584614020They gave them new arcane shit, too. >>584614053>>584613653Can you guys please shut the fuck up.
responding to his own posts again award
>>584614084don't think we got that talent yet
SoD shadow priest stacking is back
are ele shams happy or is it not good enough? i dunno anything about ele
>>584613652im literally going to charge people who literally ask me to do this. they either agree, i take everything, or one of the other party members inanely opens it fuck chests
>rogues didn’t get any changes at all besides bug fixesWoW Forever devs fucking HATE Rogues
>>584614036Pretty sure chance is always better, at least until you hit like 50% crit chance
>>584613858Have they considered that people don't like them as much as they do blood elves and high elves, and most people think they're retarded.
breddy good patch thanks blizzturds
>>584614036Crit damage bonus sucks dick because it only helps you, lets say , 10-30% of the time. There's a reason crit damage talents have way bigger numbers than crit chance talents.
>Fire Nova’s base damage has been significantly reduced.>Fire Nova’s mana cost has been significantly reducedNot a fan of these retail brained design choices. I like classic classes because they abilities with big oompf that feel fun to press. This sort of change seems geared towards making fire nova just some generic aoe filler you only press because it's 'part of the rotation'.
>>584614080you've never played warlock if you think a stun 6s stun landing on you isn't very punishingvs having to recast fear or recast curse of agony, lmao
why did pala get dumpstered?
>>584613652kek
>>584613406>nerf themOnly frost was nerfed and that shit needed to GO
are humans bis now?
>>584614312Maybe don't let the paladin run at you.
>>584613636Yes but it only has 4 charges on a 10 second cooldown, so you gain less block chance from those 10% than from the proc that you can have up all the time.
>>584613879>see a human standing alone>he has the find treasure buff>know a rogue dwar is nearby
>>584614383Until it gets nerfed to 1% in 2 weeks
>>584614383no but dont tell them
Warlocks coming out of another patch on top, truly the hero class
>>584611046holy shit two snapvine watermelons
Ghost wolf looks good now
>they fixed the cold blood mutilate bugNOOOOO MY BIG NUMBERS
>>584614383Yep
>>584613652humiliation ritual
>>584614389>just don't let the class that has perma 15% runspeed and can make itself immune to all damage get near youholy shit do you even play this game? LMAO>>584614383fraid so
great game you have there lol
>>584613652I bring my dwarf friend along because hes my friend, not because he can open chests for me!Some of my best friends are dwarves, in fact
>>584608652No you're probably an incel and I don't care to be yelled at and called nigger faggot or have my mother's name dragged through the gutter. Sorry 4chins you built this reputation yourself.
>the racials are barely differentsigh
>>584614452>called ghost wolf>can easily be seenbro my opacity dog!!!!!
I lost all hype after reading the changelog
>>584614186You can get 1 point in it with the legacy talent, wouldn't the talent description have the cap too?
>>584614432this post is propaganda from a mage who wants less people to roll mage.
>>584613652>pristine hide of the beast drama on every chestthe horror
>>584614153If your class can be human, you're trolling yourself by not picking it.
>>584614029Yes
the raid wide shit needs to be reverted RIGHT NOWwhy do they keep making these colossal fuck ups
>dwarfs needed a buff to their racials>make them worseebin
>>584614312Look, i didn't say the human racial is bad. I said it's overrated. It's more situational than you'd expect.
Isn't 3% haste just a straight up 3% dps increase?
>OoC doesn't from from Faerie Fire Feral anymore That is fucking gay
>>584614053very cool, I play alliance almost exclusively, but i'll roll a troll warrior to play with friends
>40% of alliance is human >buff them
>>584613885>humans confirmed to be twice as savage as orcsThat barbarian bloodline coming in hot
>>584614680raid wide change is good because raids are 20man, need way to many blues/pinks/oranges otherwise only have 2 flex spots available
>>584614383Human Warrior CHADs always rise above.
>>584614132100 children died of treatable aids to create this sloppa that can't even reference lock clothing across 2 second prompts.
Op kill yourself
>>584614715Haste doesn't make your dots tick faster, doesn't make you gain more rage or energy, doesn't do a lot of things.
>>584614715not quite because it doesn't effect dots in this version
>>584614383Gnome Rogues got a huge buff to their opener with the Eureka changes, especially dagger. Tauren moneymaking is now really fucking nice, we’ll have to see how good the Dwarf additional treasures are. Troll regen feels like it’ll find some nice niche, skyborn buffs are great for the regen alone since that works on pots, Evocation, food and lots of other items. Couldn’t tell you about Undead, seems like the skill is really nice. Orc’s got some nerfs but they’re still strong, they didn’t touch the stun resist at all and the dispel is nice for classes that don’t have it. Nelves are the only race that got shafted but their ghost walk is nicer now.
>>584614680Retail devs, retail problems
>>584614596We're competiting for gear either way, bitch
>>584614750Yes
>Tauren get a 3% bonus to mount speeddoes this also apply to ghost wolf?
so whats BIS hunter on alliance now
>>584614680I think that this signals that the game will be tuned for 10 man casual friendslop raiding where you would have 6 people competing to be in one group. Shit sucks though.
>>584611951Call of Thunder removed btw
>tauren lost 1% hit for 2% crit damage>dwarf lost 1% crit for 2% crit damagelol
>>584614452looks like shit bring back the blue one
>Op kill y-ACK!
>>584614870ghost wolf is not a mount
keep yourself safe op
>>584614383Just for this week until they nerf the racial to 1% since all the sissies will cry about it.
Imagine rolling anything than human
>>584614236>>584614297Holy can force a crit though, no? they have a spell that guarantee one, is that still not worth the crit damage?
>>584614870They still have the other buff to move speed
I really dislike the weapon specialization talents being turned into generic shit.It seemed interesting that different races might prefer different weapons.
Kill yourself op>>584614946
>>584609484onimusha is pretty okay, i'll finally get back to it with the break
>>584614937the blue one looked fucking retarded
yeah fuck this game, im just going to wait for adventurequest worlds: infinity
>>584614983Imagine even playing this nigger rigged slop.
>>584614680t. shaman
>>584614929It's the same dps passive racials they have on retail and are both strong on there.
>>584614771no, and there's so much meta and assumptions baked into that thought processstrategically forming groups within a raid is now worse off from that, as in made easier / less thinkinghalf the raid dont even want the buffs, so why do they all need them? it's fucking dumb, let players handle shit themselves, if they want the buffs spread further they can bring more of that class+spec, now it's also redundant and wasteful to have multiple ferals / shaymins
tauren get touch of the grave now :^)
>>584614929If you're raid buffed, crit damage will out parse crit chance
yeah no op racials>casts elunes lights
>>584615051orc/undead player spotted
>>584614929is it 202% crit or 204%?204% isn't bad
>tfw human priest playerYeah I'm feeling pretty good right now bros
"A single digit percentage might as well be 100!!" screeched the man who considered himself orders of magnitudes more intelligent than he truly was
Tauren absolutely won. You orc shaman and warriors better pivot quick lmaooooo
is this new?
>>584615116>alright, you zombie guys can live in a cave under thunder bluff but we want something in return
trillion-dollar company btw
>>584615218No. How did you miss it?
>>584615141>tfw human warlock playerwent from being the worst race in vanilla to the best race in foreverfeels so good
>>58461193715% spirit gives like no mp5. say it gives you something like 6 mp5, it'll take you four minutes to get one extra spell's worth of manabosses are gonna be easy mode too, only the most unmedicated schizos will foresee fights lasting 10 minsit's one of those talents that seems attractive until you actually do the math
>>584615218no
>>584615016If they're going back to practical vs soul and flavor, can they remove useless stats from gear again?
>me when i try to join a guild and they say "we already have a feral"thanks a lot blizzard
>>584610340this is probably the biggest melting pot on the iternet of all kinds of players, literally everyone is here: azmochuds, trannychuds, casualchuds, hardcorechuds, profchuds, collectochuds, gaychuds, 2019chuds, 2004chuds, retailchuds, pvechuds, pvpchuds, rpchuds, we're all here and like 85% have faith in this game
>>584610583would
>More haste>Lower CD for a slowfall racial that is already very useful while out in the world>More places to get the MS buff (even though admittedly 10% is not very noticeable)Feelin fine
>>584615016It's a good change, you don't want to end up getting a legendary weapon that doesn't activate your racial
>Mace Specialization: Replaced with Earth Fury: 2% increased critical damage and healing.Looks like Dwarf is back on the menu, boys!
>>584615247?
>>584615190Taurenbros, did we win bigly?
>>584614596I don't think mage needs any propaganda to for people not to roll a mage lmao!
Shatter curse should be 5% flat but 10% if you actually remove a curse with it.
>>584615295Which class will never encounter this problem?
>>584615260
>>584615296WE ARE FORLOCHUDS
>all clothcucks nerfed into the groundGod it feels good to be an undead rogue chad
AHAHAHAHAHADID MAGES GET A NEW SKILL AND KEPT ICE LANCE AND GOT AN ENTIRE FULL THREE SPEC REWORK THREE WEEKS BEFORE LAUNCH WHILE OTHER CLASSES ARE UNPLAYABLE AND GOT NOTHING DONT PLAY A CLASS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A STREAMER COUNCIL NEXT TIME SHITTIES
>>584615394rogue
I'm glad they reduced shadow priest's cooldowns and gave them a spirit buff to maintain through their rotation, i might actually get invited now :)
>>584615247elemental shaman just has a huge naked path downwards now. they might as well go shadowlands talents at this point since they obviously are bias on playstyles
the racial changes are whateverthe raidwide buff changes are massive and frankly retarded, not needing 4 shamans+4 druids is good but there's not enough buffs to cover to prevent class stacking
>>584615394Any healer?
People sleeping on the skelf racial buff. 3% haste is huge when even retail haste racials are only 1%.
>>584615359>11 points spent>able to talent into a t4 talent
>>584615314True that would suck, unless there was some sort of HORIZONTAL PROGRESSION where you could get an alternative.
>>584615332based
so only hunter pets got nerfed? time to go night elf hunter with lone wolf and quit at 40?not playing world of humancraft
>>584615263What are you basing those numbers on?
>raid-wide buffsWELCOME BACK 30 WARRIOR RAIDS
>>584615497My skelf boomkin is ready for Starfire.
>>584615407<Chuds of Forlo> needs to be a guild.
>>584615394only feral if blizzard keeps their buff global, absolutely decimates their demand; additional cats are literally just worse rogue at that pointit doesn't have to be like this
im going to be opening SO MANY battered chests as a DORF and im going to be having SO MUCH FUN I WILL BE A FUN HAVER
>>584615407forlo is what unites us all, whether we be chud or tranny, zoomer or boomer
>wod dwarf racials it's not retail- doe...
>>584615497Retail haste is completely different from Forever haste I thought.
so many undocumented changes again
Wait. Did they seriously double down on the treasure finding racial? Is that a fucking joke?
>>584615597>additional cats are literally just worse rogue at that point>at that pointAlways have been, the entire argument for powershifting was "without that mechanic we just play as shittier rogues"
>>584615650its peak
>>584615497Okay, but if I play skelf I have to use the retarded disney forms instead of sovlfvll 2004 wyvern cat.
>>584615247didnt they specifically talk about prerequisite talents on some or is this an actual bug?
>>584615647Deport them
>>584608467yeah I wondered why Slam was being treated as a spell with pushback and all
RETAIL clap DEVS clap MEAN clap RETAIL clap HOMOGENIZATION
>>584615478so parsefags will class stack, idc
>>584615631>dwarfs and the fucking cows are complaining>ehn just give em the same 2% crit dps bufflazy fucks lol
>>584615631They still have this exact same racial on retail, so do tauren.
>>584615497it doesn't lower gcd, dot tick/channel rate so it depends on your class if it's good.
>>584614680what is the problem with it? just makes organizing groups too simple?
>>584615650>>584615679>dwarf players will be asked to open chests for the party so they get more loot>dwarf players will ask for a tip to do it for people
>>584615247This is a great change since you won’t need to bring in so many hybrids, you can just fill what you need. WoW Forever should be more casual when it comes to raid composition because then you’re not autistically curating your team and needing people to reroll just so group 1,2, 3 can get leader of the pack or windfury weapon
>be mage>die to insect swarm and moonfire
but they nerfed shatter curse?
>>584615478>not needing 4 shamans+4 druids is goodNo its not. Each of those 4 druids were their own spec and all those shamans were almost all different specs. You see two of every other class in those min maxxed lists doing their different pve specs besides paladin who was also 3 of those slots all in different specs.Now you don't give a fuck about any shaman but rest so theres no need to ever bring ele or shaman ever.
warlock pets now have half hphunter pets doing 30% less damage
HUMAN SUPREMACYTOTAL HORDENIGGER DEATH
>>584615631Anon, that was 12 years ago...
nice my dwarf pickpocket bot will make some extra gold off of chests
>shadowguard still looks like lightning shield
>>584615418Problem: mages are spamming R1 frostbolt to proc their talentsSolution: nerf procs on downranked spells for all classes. Give mages a new spell with similar functionality as R1 frostbolt that they can use at max rank.
>>584615686Just make your character's backstory have the fact that when trying to commune with the great cat spirit there was a horrible accident which twisted your form
>>584615797seethe orcnigger lmao
>>584615557it's napkin math using one of my spriest screenshots. you can easily do it for any character, just check their spirit to mp5 conversion and how much spirit they have while geared then you'll see how much the talent actually gives you
As a warstompin' bear tank, 25% cooldown reduction is incredibly based
Damn...They're remigrating all of the sub-mulgorans....
>>584615797yes because you get bloodfury
>gives the cry baby mages a 1.5s cast frost bolt that applies fingers of frost and frozen.People call warriors babies, but the biggest baby class are mages and it's not even close.
>>584615797SHUT UP!!!!!!! ITS ONLY REASON WHY IM PLAYING THIS FUCKING FACTION
>>584615332Isn't this one of those stats that is only good with talents that increase crit damage by 100%? I think it is just straight up worse if you don't have a talent like that, in all realistic cases.
>1 warrior>2 paladins>1 shaman>1 hunter>1 druid>1 rogue>1 priest>1 mage>2 warlocksso 9 spots to stack with the fotm classjust as bad as 20+ warrior raids
how good do you think the open chest racial is realistically? Tauren can get another black lotus every 15 min so it should be damn good to evencompare.
>>584615797If you wanna compare racials that are mainly for pvp Orc still has their -20% stun racial.
>>584615807you need 2 shamans still for the buffs ands still need 3 paladins>>584615797not a new talent, so its fine
>>584613092Forgotten regardless of GTA
>>584615882Segregation re-introduced to Azeroth
>>584615883and they nerfed that too
>>584615674rogues aren't giving 3% crit to their physical dmg brethren though; if druid's Leader of the Pack remains party-wide as it should then there's at least some reason to bring multiple ferals>>584615774yes, takes out that whole strategic element of forming groups based on synergy between the classes; and it just fucks over the justification of having >1 feral
>>584615985I think there's less overlap than doomers fear
>>584615867ikr, they took away downranking for every other single class in the game and then the mage council got them to make an entirely new skill that brings it back just for them AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfuck this game, fuck the community, fuck the devs and fuck the mage playerbase to death
>>584615497Since classic haste doesn't affect gcd doesn't this mean the skelf racial does nothing if you are spamming spells with 1.5s or lower cast time?
>official forum has already been transformed into a hordefag trail of tearslmao
>>584608652Why would I join a 4chan guild over olympus?
>Dwarves get a chance to find additional treasureDoes this mean they have to be the one to open chests in a group or does the entire group get the bonus chance so long as it has a dwarf?
>>584615887mages has like 3 big sloptubers with direct line to blizzard who do nothing but cry about buffs
>>584613092No this is going to be SoD all over again. It will be hype for a month then massively crash then it will just be dead in like 5 months.
>>584613092>will only be remembered as a streamerslop fomo gameBased on current trends, it's heading towards this and it's very unfortunate.
your raid composition is now a checklist btw; metafaggotry FOREVER
>>584616119Don't think too much about it.
>>584616090yesI don't think it's better than either human or orc
they actually ruined this so bad if I get a beta key I won't even try it, completely lost the will to play this
>>584616119dwarf has to open, you have to have the tracking on to get the self buff for increased chance
>>584608652If I'm on Horde PvE does that mean it is impossible for me to have fun?
>parsefriends will have to stack 20 rogueshehehehehe
>>584616119It will need to be opened by the dwarf
>>584615861thank fuck i'm not the only one, it's been driving me crazy
>>584616198how so, can you explain it to me? im not very smart so i dont get whats so bad
>>584616198Put on some shoes
>every single chinese bot will now be a dwarfkino
>wf totem raid wideyep, it's over enhancement bros, no one is gonna take us now over a resto sham
>>584615797why is immunity ok for Alliance but too op for horde? >nobody will play alliance warlock! the game shouldnt be balanced around what people will play. Moreover warlocks are a horde class, of course they should be good at dealing with them. Alliance are absolutely stacked to the gills with anti rogue racials. Why is it ok?
>>584615953You need 2 druids. 1 feral, 1 boomkin
Reminder that Blizzard won't know your opinion if you don't give feedback someplace that isn't this shithole of degeneracy.>>584616054>>584615867>>584615418
>>584614750WE HUMANS NEED TO STICK TOGETHER
>>584612069Orc warlocks unironically got better. Orc warriors, rogues, and shaman got worse.
>>584614560Then go back to predit with your own lefty kind, nigger faggot
>>584616090Once the devs realise that it's going to affect gcd too
>how do we fix shaman>...>make it so only 2.5% of the playerbase needs to play itBRAVO NOLAN
PALLY TANKS HOPE YOU KEPT YOUR DRESSES BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THEM BACK ON AHAHAHAHAHA
>>5846159532 shamans for grace of air + windfury
>>584616240he's an orc or undead metafag and is pissed his race got nerfed bigly>>584616295>blood fury 1m extra CD>curse removal racial nerfed into the groundnah they got worse, 1% crit aint much, plus half as good as human
>>584616198>they actually ruined this so bad if I get a beta key I won't even try it, completely lost the will to play this
Is there even anything good in a chest? They matter so little that nearly everyone passes on even rolling to open after level 30 They don’t even have good stuff for the auction house
>mud hutters staging a biblical chimpout on the forumsthis is the floyd riots all over again
>>584616198See you on launch day
>>584616341faggots who were playing shaman just so they could get a meme totem raid spot were retarded anyway
>frostblastwhen would you ever use this in pve content?
>racials are more or less equalized now>"AIIIIIIIEEEEEE I'VE BEEN RAPED HELP ME NIGGERMAN"
just woke upwho are the winners and losers of the race patch war
>be me>Quit wow 2012>Want to try Forever>Ask for account restoration>Get it after 1 week wait>Account is permabanned without cited reason>Appeal ban>1 week later no response
uhhhhhhhhh bros will i get a raid slot as a night elf priest
Skelfs wonnered bigly
>>584616448>equalizedhumans are so far ahead it's stupid
>>584615394people will always want dwarf shamans bro, everyone wants windfur-ACK
>>584616504alliance winnerhorde stinker
>>584616448>equalizedlollmao
>implying human racial will make it to the releasewith the absolute hordcuck SEETHING going on the forums right now, it has no chance
umphhh this chest is just looking to get DWARFED
>>584616447mite b cool if it has no travel time
>>584616436those are man toes, aren't they anon?
era won
Who the fuck is this retard spamming the thread about these racial changes I have no opinion on
>>584616541>>584616568shoes. now.
>>584615953>prot warrior>prot paladin (call your resto friend to respec for off tank when paladin offline)>2 resto shamans>6 rogues/6 mages/6 warlocks/ or 6 huntersngmi
>>584616448Remove the immunity from gnomes and Dwarf and we will call it even.
>>584616436I'm afraid I don't understand this image. Can you explain it to me?
>>584616575just think of how much ice cold milk you could find in here
>>584616448star tard is retardedpottery
>>584616541>human crit racial now doesn't require a sword>OMG BEST RACE OMG>orc crit racial now doesn't require an axe>WORST RACE FUCKING REROLL
/wowfg/ Census - Racial changes are live, it's time to decide anon: Who are you?>https://poal.me/l37iai>https://poal.me/gqwaav>https://poal.me/1fi7yo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584616575God I can just SMELL the snapvine watermelons...
>>584616575stout POV
>>584616504winners:>humans>gnomes>nelvesso-so:>tauren>dwarves>trolls>skelvesOHNONONONO:>undead>orcs
>>584616720Whoever the other Horde Skyborne Druid isHi
Just going to leave this here
>>584616575Bolt of linen cloth here i coooooooooome
>>584616625I'm a night elf
>>584616754>winners>nelves?
>>584616575Lads...there might be malachite in there....
>>584616798melee hunter bros
>>584616735Yes I'd like my legendary in the form of a dagger for my rogue, please.
>>584615782>>584615679I can't wait for your greedy dwarven eyes to light up as treasure shows up on the minimap, only to open the chest in which I left one ice cold milk within
>S +Human, Orc, Skelf>SUndead, Gnome, Tauren>ATroll, Nelf, Dwarf
>>584616509yeah same happened to my original account which had all my actual vanilla toons on it.
>>584616504Buffed all the alliance, nerfed all the horde. Killed the horde class.
>>584616882not even close
>>584616735>Just mail every Alliance character 1000 gold and a legendary weapon after they log in the first timethis but unironically
>>584616798lol why did they even bother changing that now?
>>584616857already very good racials that were slept on by everyone are being kept + they got a slight boost
Will the dwarf racial apply to Lockboxes?
im still gonna be an undead warrior because im bad to the bone
>>584616798feral tankchads stay winning
>greenskins get their first taste of being nerfed after 20 years of horde favoritism >throw a hissyfit on the forums threatening to boycott foreverso much for the myth of the 'tough warrior faction who enjoys being the underdog'
>>584616575holy FUCK is that 6 wool cloth?
>>584616936>gets banned by the AI for RMTing
>>584616786My fellow skelfy druid. Got my buddy running a skelf warrior and planning to Thorns him up and boomkin/dungeon healer away. NA-RP, represent.
>>584616504Is that the artist who would make porn of his main and then, FOR SOME REASON, got weirded out by so many people masturbating to his WoW character and then hitting on him in-game?
>>584616952no unless they spaghetti code it
>>584616625im a horde skelf
>all the noshoes complaining will just have these racial nerfs be reverted, or alliance will get racial nerfs next weekWhy can't no shoes just take the L in peace.
>>584616798what site?
>>584612997You're gen alpha lil bro go to bed
>>584616954for me it’s undead dual dagger dps warrior
>>584616798why did claude change this?
All of this focusing on balance changes is odd to me as ive never really paid attention to it before. Doubt it'll matter until raiding anyway.
>going to roll undead disc priest>first penance got nerfed>now undead got nerfedWhat next, a horde wide nerf?
>human warrior winsthis is extremely vanilla-like, based devs
>>584617041It's always been the tryhard poopsocker faction, all that matters to them is minmaxing performance
The tournament is being held in Hyjal so the horrific layering and lag doesn't ruin the show. Make a character and get there on the day so the pressure forces layering onto the participants.
>>584616575Flint and an oily blackmouth!
>>584616240the streamers and the devs are working together to make the most amount of money while shitting on the playerbase, the streamers don't criticize the game and the devs pander to them is their strategy, the players concerns don't get address or even acknowledged, they literally allowed all streamers to received RMTed money for their beta eventso everywhere you look on the internet you get fake streamer reactions like thesehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/otjrXCPFIosthe game will end up with a massive riot from the players in 1 or 2 months max when people get tired of this facade that everyone can smell already
>>584617105that already happened when the first olympus guild was made
>rogue lost its stealth bar
>>584617001No that was DrGraevling, and his main's name was Monara
>>584617105yeah it's just so bad, looks like you'll have to play alliance now retard, oh wait you won't
>>584617041If people don't complain about the changes they won't get changed
>>584617125>The tournament is being held in Hyjal so the horrific layering and lag doesn't ruin the showit's not held in Hyjal, it's some instanced zone (kind of like Zephyr Isle) existing in its own pocket dimension that was created by cutting out a piece of Hyjal assets
>>584617118It's all orcs and undead too. I rarely seen the trolls and cows this tryhard compared to the other horde races.
>>584617041>She doesn't know about cow shoes
>>584616504>lost PaladinsDruidsShamanOrcsHoly/Disc PriestUndeadDragalia>wonWarlocksMagesWarriorsShadow PriestTaurenHumanGnomeDwarfNElves
>>584617103>Doubt it'll matter until raiding anyway.Thats where it matters. Raid wide buffs means everyone will just stack the same class so half the raid will be one class again.
>>5846163751% crit is literally better than 1% damage because of the crit damage talents in affliction and destruction. Also if a boss fight is 3 and 15~ seconds or longer the Blood Fury nerfs straight up don't matter. Lastly against an opponent caster in PvP you already had the advantage with how strong warlocks are so the small nerf to Shatter Curse. All of this could have been so much worse well it is for warriors, rogues, and shaman
>>584617041But orcs wear shoes...
>>584616735KWAB
The Devs the moment they sense a mage player might be slightly inconvenienced or mildly frustrated
I am once again asking for them to add Goblins.>B-But techradar saidTechradar are faggots that don't post entire interviews and what is said. Ergo, they can be ignored.
>>584616442they could just make ele and enhance not complete dogshit now
>orcs are still most likely a top 3 race even after today's nerfs>meanwhile the forums, tw*tter and r*ddit look like if george floyd diedwho would have thought greenskin players were the biggest babies
>>584617269Dragalia...Lost...
>>584617336cant wait for mages to eat shit in the tournament so this reddit whining about mages can die for goodactually nvm you fags will complain no matter what
>>584617283Oh well? Just play whatever class you want. Only sweats ever just stacked one class.
>>584617156"We fixed the art direction!">they copy pasted one texture on one model
>>584617306But lots of gear gives more crit chance, what gives gives crit damage? That being said compared to that one rogue skill that gives like...fucking 30% more crit damage, 2% is nothing
>>584617397hey now, let's not get crazy
its actually over for noshoes mudshitters
just hand the game over to cygames at this point
>>584617269>dragaliawe was the lyights...
>>584617306>cope cope copeok noshoe
I honestly dont think the racials are that big of a deal. Im still going to play an orc anyway. Alliance are slightly overtuned but whatever, theyll never stop crying if the game doesn't favor them. Is better racials and an extra city enough? Guess we will see.
>>584617435>"sorry, we already have one of your class. we need to fill all the other slots with rogues."
refunded, enjoy playing $60+$15 for this DoA game, losers
>>584617374>no plans to add retail races at this timekeywords>at this timethey're all coming.
>>584617374Goblin models look so fucking ugly. Why do you niggas want goblins when they look NOTHING like the offmodel art you post.
>>584617461wasn’t horde the only faction to get char creation locked multiple times during beta?
>>584617508I would play alliance without any racials whatsoever desu desu
>>584617269>>won>warlocksHow did warlocks win?
>>584617508Horde had OP racials in vanilla for 20 yearstimes change
>>584617196that bitch got fucked by everyone in AzerothShame he never did futa
>>584617596he set it just for lvls 20 to 29horde locks were coming from all the secondaries making undead paladins and not even hitting lvl 10
>>584617431good thing that won't have an effect on the game's design philosophy for an entire month during the beta...ohh wait
>elites have more HP than they did on SoDblizz is aiming for 2-3min boss kills for sure
SSSSS+>HumanS>GnomeC>Orc, UndeadD>NelfE>Tauren, DwarfF>Troll
>>584617596yeah because a bunch of tards made level 1 horde characters and quit lol
>>584616998BasedGonna be NA-PvE for me since thats where friends are goingI might actually try balance leveling this time around, I've usually done feral in the past since the 1-10 experience has made me never want to cast Wrath ever again
>>584617001>hitting on him in-gameI mean, that's just plain weird
>>584617769Gnome A++++++++++++++++
>>584617520>"sorry, we already have one of your class. we need to fill all the other slots with rogues."said nobody fucking ever.
>warlocks get literal zero attention from devs>mages, paladins, shaman get all the cool shit>warriors and priests are unkillable god classes>Horde fucking suck and are treated with active derision by devs>Alliance get buffed out the wazoo to compensate for the narcissistic streamers who can't play them otherwise>troons and women infesting classes and races I would play otherwise (hunter, druid, skelf)Just like Vanilla! We're going back home lads!
>horde melting down on reddit, the official forums and even ITTholy shit I love itopened another beer
>everyone sleeping on nelflmao
>>584617269wyell....
>>584617661Fear range is back up, orc is dead
>>584617779>most played: Human Warrior
>>584617520>a bunch of people who would never roster you anyway because they have had it set in stone since their nostalrius days won’t invite you to playOh well? I was an ungeared dwarf rogue in classic and still got raid spots and saw all the content
PLEASE DON'T NERF HUMAN RACIALS NEXT WEEK! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!!! PLEASE LET US HAVE STRONG RACIALS FOR ONCE!!! DON'T LISTEN TO THE NOSHOES PLEASE!!!
>>584617769nelf d tier? are you retarded. do any of you even play this game
>Always played a Dwarf Rogue>Treasure Finding buffWE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
>>584617508I'll still play fem undead warrior for the flips, but even if I don't minmaxx my race it still sucks when something sucks in comparison
>>584617374imagine how much wow would rake in if goblins looked like that
>>584616575AIsloppers take note that there are more beardos gooning to this graphic than any of your smurf elf pics. Might want to keep that in mind next time you're generating.
>>584617001I don't like when people message me telling me how much they love my art and how much they jerk off to it. I can at least ignore my socials and appear offline but if I was playing wow and people could just message me while I play and know I can see it, that'd be fucking horrible.
>>5846179201 crit per 2 min is at best half as good as human
>Human, nelf and gnome giga buffed>Horde is killKWAHB
Hunter pets got shit'd on, what happened?
ice lance is completely guttedhow is arcane?
>>584618014they were bugged and got fixednow get the fuck off my class
>>584617871But pet health got reduced considerably? Apparently suc went from like 3k hp to 1k.
>>584617832no one is sleeping on nelf there's just no reason to pick it when human is so strong unless you really want to play druid. even IF nelf crit ends up being slightly ahead in PvE, picking racials for PvE at this point is a meme. The boss dying 1-2 seconds faster from the 1% DPS difference is irrelevant. But when you're out in the world PvPing, or in a duel, or queueing BGs with the bros, you're immediately going to feel retarded for not picking human.
monofaction inc
>>584618091ne is even better in pvp
noshoes faggots are going to be crying so much when they can't enter blackrock mountain on launch
>>584618072will they still be able to do their usual solo farm shenanigans? will they be worthwhile to bring to raid?
>>584618109>all the chuds, metachasers, and dads go Alliance>all the real men go Hordebased
>>584618091if i wanted to play elf id pick blue elf for 3% haste
Its always funny every iteration of classic /vg/ shits itself thinking that every guild is going to have strict roster spots and sweating over the most miniscule minmaxing when in reality 95% of guilds will pretty much take any bumblefuck so long as you aren't a gigasperg
>>584618213Who on earth are you making all these posts for? Is there something wrong with your head? You’re posting on cooldown for this shit?
>devd say they're not worried about pvp balance>streamers cry about down ranking nerfs>mage gets an exclusive pvp spell that is effectively a down ranked frost boltWhat the fuck is this bullshit?
>>584618224yes, yes at least one
>>584617461lmaoooo they were so uppity toobragging about how they wouldn't let a single alliance lock get to 60get karma'd bitchBUCK STATUS: BROKEN
>pay $60 for a "name reservation">look inside>it's actually paying $60 to make sure you don't get locked out of the faction you want to play
Good patch
>>584618252
Read Ley Line should increase energy regen
>>584618280It’s because they are gigaspergs that nobody wants to be around dude. Their sense of humor is god awful and they are self righteous over it. They think they’re offending people and being based for an audience that doesn’t exist when in reality they’re just boring and low IQ
Why don't they just do away with combat facials and passives?Either embrace the asymmetry or cut the crap. If you must keep them in, allow them to be strong and accept the negatives that come with that.
>>584618323Mages are like saiyans, every time you nerf them they undo the nerf and get stronger.
>>584617520this made me laugh really hard wtf
new>>584618545>>584618545>>584618545
>>584618412the name reservation is on the $30 version as well
you are laughing, blizzard is literally committing a horde holocaust and you are laughing
>>584618505you werent saying this yesterday.
>fire blast gives a heating up proc>crits give 2they keep making frost fire even better, we're fucking winning mage bros
>>584618505That would require actually having vision and a game development philosophy
What class and race to roll to most efficiently murder Dalaraniggers?Fuck mages, fuck Xaryu, and fuck fAggrend.
>>584618323>mage gets an exclusive pvp spell that is effectively a down ranked frost boltcomplete nothingburger. meanwhile they nerfed frost mage damage significantly
>>584617431not the level 30 meme dueling tournament noooo
>>584618480but dude he came online and said NIGGERS in all caps and he posts /pol/shit on the guild discord, why aren't you sneeding trumpily at his wit?
can we have a real bake and not the gay nigger fetish faggot from wowg baking the thread please
>>584618643you mean they fixed an OP spammable insta cast spell.
>>584618705Its too late people have replied to it and I was too slow to make a real one.
>>584618705>can we have a real bake and not the gay nigger fetish faggot from wowg baking the thread pleasenot tonight, the orc racial nerfs have agitated the hordefags so expect extra gay and cuck porn spam
>>584617593Because as a Goblin CHAD I am capable of enjoying multiple varieties of Goblins.>>584617567Yeah but I'd prefer to get them sooner rather than later so I can enjoy playing them. The only reason I'm agreeing to play Horde with my pals instead of helping the other Alliancebro convince them to roll on the cool team is because I want my Goblins.>>584617946I like fanart Gobbos and in-game Gobs.
>>584618761yeah? a big nerf.frost blast is nothing
>>584618428>The face my Dwarf makes before breaking the lock off a chest with his girthy stubby cock.
>>584618705I'll take it over the attention-whoring avatarfag OP
>human hunter>human warrior>human mageall female, naturally. leveled in that order. hunter for self sustainability on launch, i trust no one more than myself to get fast exp and gold. hunter allows this more than any other class. next will be the warrior, leveled easily after obtaining some legacy points and having ample gold. warrior is significantly easier on an established server where you can buy yourself greens or have higher level guildies blast through WW axe for you. i will level as prot more than likely and somewhere along the journey find a guild to play with as a result. i either end up with a chad tanking spot or a bis dps spot as a result, the warrior becomes my de facto main. hunter stays as priority alt so that it still gets gear and can solo farm even more efficiently. Eventually I level the mage because it's the hero class, and at some point sooner or later there will be broken gold farms available to them.If this isn't your plan, you're ngmi. I have optimized perfectly.
>>584618772faggot nigger in the same discord as the gay nigger fetish faggot janny from wowg
res sickness now shares duration with the legacy talent "The Quick and the Dead"Meaning res sickness now lasts for only 1 minute
reck bomb is back
>>584616250Nah they will be tauren.They reduced the herb node creation skill to 15 minutes.
>>584619061Does benediction work with the quick and the dead?You could die and then benedict for no mana when you came back lol
>there are shaman players right now who are unironically pretending making some totems raidwide are a nerfWild self expose of personal skill issue if you needed "1 Shaman per party" just to get a raid slot.
