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AI edition

>Demo Days
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Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70

>AGDG Resources
https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w

>Progress Posting Guide
https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn

>Helpful Links
New Threads:
>>>/vg/agdg
>>>/g/gedg
>>>/bant/agdg

Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter

>Previous Thread
>>585896657
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>>585959982
>something fun
>a 2 minute long flappy bird clone that you attempted to stretch into a 2 hour game
l o l
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Someone cloned your game with AI and now you're struggling?
Have you tried making a developer website?
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proggy anchor
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>>585960064
trying out a nose highlight
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I'm gonna pull the trigger on this one

https://alfredbaudisch.itch.io/pixel-art-studio
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>AI researchers discover an “evil neuron” in China’s Qwen AI model that, when activated, causes it to generate violent, anti-human responses.
Do you think if I activated qwen's evil mode it'd be able to design a game that is extremely addictive?
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AI bros lack an understanding of what makes human to be a human.
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>>585960564
Just use an abliterated qwen, and you can make it do anything you want.
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>>585960670
>brown filename
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>>585960670
If AI slop is favored over your human made passion project, then what does that say about you?
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Will you buy my game?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/5247930/Goodbye_Mr_Sato/
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>>585961020
I remember you from a different thread. No
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>>585960575
that is what the term, as defined by the halo guy who coined it, means
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>>585961112
Now make your game
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>>585960960
people prefer really amateur works made by humans over expensive polished AI slop.
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>>585961020
where the fuck is your AI disclosure
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>changes one pixel on the ugliest art i've ever seen and calls it progress
Why are pixel shartists like this?
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>>585961150
On movies? I can see it
On games? That's proven to be false
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>Epic employees lays out why steam's market dominance is bad for gaming and why steam is unlikely to be unseated
>He is mocked and attacked by gamers
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>>585961141
i meant he said it is a literal 5 minute loop of gameplay. the way you figure this out is by playing games in the same genre anyway
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>>585961214
Show us your godly perfect art
Surely you are a competent artist
Or at the very least, have some progress made
Do you?
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>>585961150
People? Yes
Gamers, however, are not people.
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>>585961214
this from someone who thinks dq1 is ugly? i'll take that as a compliment
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>>585960392
ai slop
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>>585961242
https://whatactuallyworks.co/your-ai-label-is-losing-sales/

AI label makes people buy less a product.
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>>585961246
Epic employees and CEO need to at the very least conceive their lies and pettiness, because all of these sound like huge projection
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>>585960397
for 20 bucks you can get claude to make you your own and you can sell it lol
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>>585961201
LUDDIE MELTY
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Why are browns still making pixel shart in 2027
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>>585961489
So the AI label won't be added? Steam doesn't enforce it. How to Fish made millions on being blatant aislop and so will the next big friendslop that makes it out of a million
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I've left a college assignment last minute. How plausible is it to make a simple shooter platformer in gamemaker in about 10 days, coding and making all pixel art assets?
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>>585961489
If you blatantly use AI but don't have the label if your game becomes popular gamers will fight tooth and nail against people who call out your AI use. See Void War or Deadlock.
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>>585961680
Very plausible as long as you know what you're doing and stop browsing and start developing
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>>585961649
>>585961694
what will you do once Steam adds a button to report a game as AI slop?
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How do you go about finding an artist for your game?
Certainly for an action game, the visuals have a huge impact on the actual gameplay, even with just the shape of the characters. So while I always hope that I can make do with placeholder free assets, when I actually do it I can feel how much it doesn't really work like that.
My problem is more that I don't enjoy drawing than that I'm concerned about not being good at it.
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>>585961246
I'm not reading that esl bullshit but Steam's popularity disappears the moment Gabe dies so its all irrelevant anyway.
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>>585961649
'dites curiously silent after this one
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>>585961765
I'm a complete beginner. Will be starting tomorrow morning. If i get anything done I will post results here. Wish me luck.
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how do i get good at character design?
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>>585961246
He's right
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>>585961775
It has one lol. Valve doesn't give a shit unless its 'live' AI, like your game is running a live LLM.
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>>585961775
they already have a report function and it doesnt do shit
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>>585961780
If only there was some ground breaking new tech that could solve your problem.
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>>585961868
my niece looks like this
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>>585961967
But bro, non-customers will not buy it and say mean things, that's awful and it hurts weally much
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>>585961868
Use Krea. It is AMAAAAAZINNG~~
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>>585962024
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I'll wait for the hypothetical Cris take on that
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>>585961246
Epic tried paying developers to make their store succeed when they should have been paying ecelebs to shill their store like Valve does
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>>585961445
cope
>>585961623
because pixel art is timeless
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>>585962284
BASED, god I fucking love Valve
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>pixel art is timeless
your dogshit pixel art isn't
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>>585962319
tracing ai slop =/= pixel art
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>>585962284
The steam defenders here must realize that if Tim had said this gamers would call him evil
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>>585962374
>your pixel art is dogshit, just like dq1's!!!
l o l
>>585962424
didn't trace anything, cope
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>>585962424
i'll post my starting doodles
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>>585962457
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post...
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>>585961967
I have a feeling that placeholder free assets and AI art are basically in the same area, where if you were making a VN or an RPG you could get away with it, but I don't get the impression it will really work for an action game with multiple animations for the same characters unless you are already an artist.
This is besides not really wanting to use it for various reasons. I would rather not get involved in legal questions of ownership of AI assets even if people do it anyway, and I'd rather work with a person if it's possible to do so.
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>>585961868
just mix two popular characters and change their hair color.
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>>585962617
Nice cock
Also, notice how the retards hating on you haven't posted anything
Your cock is nicer and bigger
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>>585961680
dude are you serious? this is 1-3 hours without ai and following their youtube tutorials you lazy fucking nigger i hope your parents feel good about wasting money to go to school to learn a program 13 year olds stole for free
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>>585962670
Your feeling is wrong
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>>585961680
15 minutes, especially if you just steal a level from one of the billion contra clones out there
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>>585961868
Find a character with a design you find unique and you like
Copy it
Then change little things and compare it with the copy, and see if it's too similar, and if it's not, if you think it's good
That's what the gachaslop devs do and they often get praised even if you can fucking identify the source of the copy
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made more goblins
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>>585962284
Today I started development of an AI clone of counter strike called 'First Strike'
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>>585963348
STOPPPP NOOOOOO
holy shit gaben isnt gonna like this
STOP
cloning nintendo is one thing but valve is literally the savior of vidya games please reconsider
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>>585963495
I'm sure he won't mind considering he'll get the 22% regardless
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>>585962986
Well, if it is doable without already being an artist or being a large studio then I don't know how to do it, which doesn't really change the situation.
In any case there are artists out there, and people team up to make games with them somehow. I wouldn't want to proceed if I felt like I didn't make an attempt on what I really wanted to do.
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>>585963286
My game has a goblin in it too
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>>585963689
why is his arm so thick? jorkin?
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>>585963286
>AI blurs everything to shit and adds mixels
seems about right
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>>585963816
Unironically soul
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>>585963689
Literally me
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>>585963879
not accurate to the NES, so it's dogshit. just compare this to fantastic DQ1 sprites;
>>585962617
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>>585963689
Me 3 minutes later a horny-posting by Tomo using spoiler tags
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>>585963586
Its going to be free and feature all the gamemodes from CSGO that valve never added to 2
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>>585964138
They already milked the original, they won't care anymore
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>>585963286
>>585963816
>adds a billion colours
>destroys the clean details of the original
>breaks the 8x8 tiling of the original
>reduces the size of the elf's breasts
AI is dogshit
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>>585963771
Yeah it's a masturbation joke but it's also ironic since it's a girl
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>>585964085
stop living in the past
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>>585962137
sakura...
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>>585964406
The past is all I 'ave
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>>585962501
dq1 has better art than you doe
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>>585964796
Soul
>>585963286
Soulless
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>>585964796
that's the snes remake, idiot. dq1 on the fc looks like;
>>585962617

>>585964852
>blind retard can't tell my posts from an AIjeet's
lol
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>>585964928
These look way better than your dogshit art
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>>585964984
they look about on par
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>>585964984
soulful and skillful understanding of art
>>585963286
soulless imitation with no skill
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>>585964928
Stop peddling your ai genned jpegs retard, you dont even have a game
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>>585964984
These actually look like an artist made them instead of a retard
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in 2018 this was enough to earn 2000$ in a month https://store.steampowered.com/app/1232330/Theyest_Thou/
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>>585965056
>>585965076
that's some idiot impersonating me, probably you
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Why do goblins make aggy so mad?
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>>585960392
Soulless retro larper
>>585964984
Soulful famicom art
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dq1 isnt even the best classic dq nor the best version of dq1 lol
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>>585960064
>New Threads:
>>>>/vg/agdg
>>>>/g/gedg
>>>>/bant/agdg
can you stop polluting the op with this? it makes me scroll 10% more which is annoying me
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>>585965165
prompt a better comeback
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He's a nodev pixel shartist that will never ever have art like actual Dragon Quest
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>>585965187
literally yesterday you were all pretending that DQ1 looked awful
>>585965224
it's the only one that uses transparent monster sprites though
>>585965304
bored discord troon
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What is the most efficient way to record a script's execution path in Godot? I'm making a game where users make behavior trees with graph nodes. Those behavior trees are converted to scripts. I want to create a debug window that shows the path of a behavior tree visually. I want it to show the path it took to get to an action at the end of a tick. Wondering what is the best way to go about this.
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this >>585960392 isn't as readable on a tiny thumbnail as >>585964984
what's the difference? is it silhouettes?
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>>585965291
progress posting guide too, no one's using it anyway
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>>585965441
?
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>>585965535
looks like shit
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>amateur dev general
>piling on an amateur dev
You retards deserve to be replaced by AI slop jheets copying your code copied from youtube tutorials
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>>585965535
>>585965441
The goblins look way less recognizable than even the dq1 sprites really tiny
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>>585965392
im partial to the gameboy color version
perhaps i too will test out the ultimate workflow soon on dragon quest
after all i actually beat it unlike some people who clone with their eyes and not with their heart
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>>585965656
Good pixel art vs pixel shartist
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>>585965441
>>585965656
>>585965732
?
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While you were shitting yourself I made a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsjKm8F-4MY
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>>585965887
Claude and I finna clone this
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>>585965843
Learn to take criticism without getting defensive
Your silhouettes are boring and indistinct
Post other monsters you've made that aren't goblins
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>>585965843
>ai slopper
>can't take criticism
>no game
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>>585965995
>>585966081
this isn't criticism lmao, you saw me using a more saturated background colour for my art and immediately thought the problem was my art. and they're not supposed to be distinct because they're going to be plopped in front of a background in the center of the screen.
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>>585965887
Cool shit bro, I like the wall busting especially
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>>585965887
>>585965987
>you punch a single ghost npc with fixed visuals
claude can one shot
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>>585965995
the elves need to be in that neutral pose anyway because they're going to have other sprites on top of them for gear and such
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>>585966201
where is your game? can't make one with with your ai slop machine? cringe
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so fucking done with trying and failing to model and sculpt humans I'm considering avoiding them entirely
what're some alternatives? so far I've got:
>robots / mechs
>animals / insects (FlyKnight was a good idea since flies are piss-easy to model)
>anthro (not furshit, think Hogs of War or something)
>ayys
>helmets, masks
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>>585965887
fuck yeah fuck those fucking ghosts
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>>585966320
meshy
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>>585966319
it's in preproduction, which is how you should always try to make games because otherwise you end up with nothing but a demo
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is it true what they say about kanna?
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>>585966201
Yeah this nigger is an autist that spends his time whining about things and calling it criticism, pay it no mind bro
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>>585966438
you have nothing but traced ai slop
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>>585966320
human with a helmet/ mask on
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>>585966513
cope, AI slop looks like;
>>585963286
>>585964304
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>>585966598
record yourself making a goblin then, you won't stupid slopper
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>>585966320
just make it extremely low-poly, that's the secret
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>>585966320
use ai
avoid low poly troon shit that crap is SOO played
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>>585966453
yesn't
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>>585966970
benchod
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>>585967075
worthless dumbass who won't finish his game because he's hung up on shit no one else cares about
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>>585966814
cba to download obs and make a 4 hour long video
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>>585966880
yeah Bomberman came to mind, that and cartoon stuff in general. problem is that I'm not much of an artist, so I'm limited to more realistic stuff
realistic texturing and content on super low poly tends to look like this
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>>585967531
Soul
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>>585961868
>>585962024
>>585962137
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i need a new game idea to cope with being a massive failure
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>>585961201
Its not AI, meds.
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>spend yesterday talking shit about vampire survivors
>realize my game is vampire survivors with extra steps
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>>585967464
how does it take you 4 hours to make a simple pixel goblin kek
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>>585968424
friendslop game about group of old men ntring a milf
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>>585968567
it takes time to come up with high quality pixel art
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>>585960064
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>>585968763
why would kanna do this
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>>585968470
it's either AI or you're poorly tracing over/ posterizing something
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>>585968763
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT8cwP14oQw

>mfw found the perfect new genre for my game music

Man, jazz salsa fusion with ZUN is like a masterpiece made music.

This is beyond what music should be, like something impossible that shouldn't be possible to create.

wtf
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>>585968728
your pixel art is not quality
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>>585968728
The fact it takes you 4 hours to make a single extremely simple sprite means you are never going to finish a game
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It's up. /our guy/ finally spokered

https://howtomarketagame.com/2026/10/28/ai-cloners-are-here-are-indie-devs-cooked/
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>>585969016
zukjeet
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>>585969016
its joever
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>>585969016
BASED
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>>585969016
>be indie dev
>make needle-in-a-haystack game
>idea goes mega-viral
>clone games appear, one gets a playable demo out first
>content creators pick it up; clone overtakes the original in followers
>internet declares all indie games cooked

Article’s take: nah. This was a nasty but unusually cloneable perfect storm: a rare, instantly understandable viral gimmick in an established genre, plus a clone that was actually decent and kept improving its demo. Most games don’t hit all those conditions.

The original wasn’t dead, either—it kept gaining followers, and coverage of the clone also boosted interest in the original. Meanwhile, the clone that rushed out a full game first without building an audience mostly stalled. Being first to release anything isn’t the same as being first with a good demo and momentum.

Practical takeaway: don’t hide your game or shadow-drop it out of fear. Keep doing the boring proven stuff: Steam page early, demo, creators, Next Fest. Demos still help with visibility. If your game is a simple, viral-ready gimmick and copycats are already showing up, move faster and get a polished demo out—don’t just sit on a closed playtest.

>someone might clone your game
>you might also be letting anxiety talk you out of marketing it
>go make the game; touch grass; stop doomscrolling

The author’s warning is real, but the conclusion isn’t “indies are cooked.” It’s “learn from this rare case, be ready if your game suddenly goes viral, and don’t throw out the whole marketing playbook.”
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Would a game where you play as a big black cock having gorilla make it?
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>>585969016
is damaskus famous or something now?
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will goblinshitter ever post more than the same 4 sprites every single thread
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>>585969630
Never, its all he has and he keeps changing 1 or 2 pixels and reposting them
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>>585968924
yes it is
>>585968976
not if i iterate on that sprite to make multiple sprites and i limit my scope to 15 or so sprites
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>covid was 7 years ago
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>he thinks his pixel art looks good
kekypow
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I have never seen an aggie "dev" focus on gameplay first
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>>585960392
Baby's first pixel shart
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>>585969630
>>585969782
here's a new sprite then
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>All he did was change a few pixels on the face and post it
Please post a different character altogether
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>>585970091
thats just the same sprite with a slightly different expression
you've had days
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>>585969016
Trigger warning: hope fuel overdose
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>>585962867
It's an adult learners course to get into university. We use gamemaker because our college can't afford PC's to run 3D modelling programs, AI and that.
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>>585970074
The first version of my game published to Demo Day was a text-only prototype of the combat system...
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>>585970074
Maybe because you are blind
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>>585970196
>>585970272
this is what pixel art is. i'm going to tweak the base model until i'm satisfied, then i'll work on equipment
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>>585970402
Post et
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>"tweaking"
>its just a few pixels he changed
you could be making every single enemy in the game and then tweak them
you could have made all the armor by now
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>>585970196
>>585970272
now happy?
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>>585970376
uhhh are you trolling me?
i went to school in the ghetto and even we had macs
well i hope you at least drew a sprite since i posted that
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>>585961836
>properly calls itself a roguelite
I KNEEL
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>>585970514
Which? Even Bokube has been graphics graphics graphics graphics graphics for ten years straight
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1TKNs1gbc
Marnix is not afraid his demo will be stealered yet you are
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>>585970636
thats the same sprite with a different face sir
maybe you should make progress instead
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>>585970796
his games are already slop
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business plan
release a soulful game every 2.5 months for 14.99

pls rate
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>>585970980
now post gameplay of any game youve made
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>>585970604
idk what enemies i even want yet. i only knew i wanted goblins
>>585970808
>>585970636
not me, also that doesn't look happy
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>i only knew i wanted goblins i don't know anything else about my game
I'm starting to understand why aggydaggy games fail more than they succeed. There's zero creative vision here
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>>585970530
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>>585971287
why would i play this instead of any other demo ever
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Gameplay only doesn't mean text only unless your game is a text only game
You can just draw mspaint placeholders for a 2d game and use them in the engine
A text only demo doesnt tell me anything about the games final vision
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Do not shadow drop your game
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On track. You should reach Sunday’s reset with room to spare.
Current session
Resets at 9:30 PM
31% used
Resets Sunday 12:00 AM
49% used

Will I make it?
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How to beat cloning: have the entire game done, but pretend to still be in dev while you do marketing. That way you can have the finished product before any cloners can finish their clones, but you can still do your dev logs (faked)_
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>>585971712
truth nuke
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>>585971352
Because 糸音 is cute
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>>585971474
Wishlists are worthless.
Steam Next Fest is worthless now that there are 7k slop demos.
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>>585971264
i know a lot about my game, i'm just not sure which monsters are making the cut
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>>585971038
gameplay?
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Gameplay is a buzzword
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>>585971474
Now show me an actual quality game and maybe you'd have some point here, otherwise ya just yappin boy
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remember when we used to have .webms of gameplay
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>>585971038
a taste of the ultimate workflow ™
i took the music systems from vibe bunny and added a completely game
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>>585972572
C-Cris sama?!?!
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>>585960324
>Have you tried making a developer website?
>>585969016
>build your own audience in your own platform
https://youtu.be/C1WIJXpyjmg&t=319
/our guy/ warned us almost a year ago
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>>585973113
So don't put your game on steam and build your own launcher instead. Got it.
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>>585972358
heres your fucking gameplay nigga now shut up
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>>585969579
I miss damaskus
Do not overeat fastfood guys
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>>585973556
holy sexo
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>>585973675
he died? but he posted some rts thing like 3 months ago
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>Clone project onto my laptop so I can work on it while on a trip
>Upon loading the project fans start blowing like a jet engine
Acer Nitro 5, it's not like the FPS is going to the shitter, my debugger says I'm getting 250-300 with vsync off and my CPU+GPU usage changes negligibly - but the sound is just really fucking annoying...
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>>585973556
>ssstwitter.com
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>>585970980
the ac2-3 games had so much sovl but man they are buns to play now
ps1 games have better controls
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>>585974529
Then turn on vsync and stop it from rendering so many frames faggot
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I dont have time to decided what is worth cloning, so i am just going to clone other clones and make millions.
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>>585975215
i think they still control good
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This is your competition.
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>>585973556
basic third person shooter carried by loli?
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>>585975718
This will make more than aggydaggy makes. It will sell many copies
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>>585974045
>rts thing
WTF he couldnt even normally code a doom-like back then
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Remember to drink water while game-dev'ing!
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>>585975838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp_qMmvMXrE&t

here it is
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>>585976396
lard lmao lardinal
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>>585975732
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>>585974529
just change your power plan numbnuts
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>>585976689
turd in the toilet bowl orbiting another turd
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Is it proof that adding a loli with a cute model is instant success fuel?
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>>585976941
post game real quick?
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once claude can reliably do low poly megaman legends style models ill die because thats all i can do
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>>585973556
no charge shot?
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>>585973556
no cum shot?
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>>585977312
have to use the R18 patch for that
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>>585977040
They made a Nobeta clone and it already has over 1m+ views so yeah pretty mush
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lber dev is too scared to make actual sex cunny tho
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>>585977667
He'd get doxxed
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On track. You should reach Sunday’s reset with room to spare.
Current session
Resets at 9:30 PM
46% used
Resets Sunday 12:00 AM
51% used

GONNA NOT MAKE IT?
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>>585973556
kanna ur game doesnt look like fun
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kanna has the art but not the creativity
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>>585978445
trvke
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>>585978403
could be worse, at least hes not making platformerslop with ugly ass levels
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>>585978736
This looks more fun than Kanna's game but Kanna's is more sex. What do I pick?
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>>585978736
imagine this but with a loli..
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>>585978736
lol open world?
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>>585978736
This has actual gameplay so you instantly know its not a /agdg/ game
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>>585973556
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>>585978736
This looks pretty okay ngl
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>>585978736
if kanna made a collectathon platformslop game with a loli protagonist it would make billions
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>>585978736
this is actually a game so you instantly know its not an /agdg/ larper
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>>585979107
If I could model I would do this but my models are ass rn
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>>585979107
truth bomb that should be his next game
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Pixelshitters cry when they think of 3d
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So he is the shadow lardinal who runs agdg...
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>>585972358
here's an old one I found on a long lost folder. Man, 2020 was 6 years ago. I couldn't finish one single game. Maybe I was never cut for this.
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>>585980086
he just needs to make his game fun AND sex
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>>585973113
fun video
>nice font
>sounds in the trailer
>art looks ok probably synty
>it's not gonna be zero...
>FIFTY FOUR DOLLARS
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so many games, how do we even compete
>>>/v/750534906
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>>585978736
how come twitter devs understand schmovement so much better than aggydaggers?
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>>585978403
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>>585980461
BASED
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>>585980461
I'll do all the art for us. we can use my mascot.
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>>585980480
twxtter devs only make demo porn, so it's all they work on
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>>585980506
ignore anon, I actually think your game looks fun
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>>585980712
trve
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>>585980040
I do bofa and honestly pixelshart has more soul
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>>585980098
This is just megaman zero
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neuter pedophiles!
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pretty happy with my new workflow.

It's better than AI, because is not AI.

:D
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>>585980712
X views and re-xeets informing their output, they are artists forged by the way the algo treats them. we get so few (you)s here that we only make from our soul and stay untainted by algos.
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>>585981089
workflow chad. keep up the good workflow!
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>/v/ prioritizes gameplay first and not reinventing the wheel
wtf
do they mog us
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Im making a game comparable to Dwarf Fortress Adventure mode + Elin/Elona. Im getting asset fatigue, and am also getting sick of my own badly drawn art. All my artwork(except player character) was drawn in aesprite myself, but im not a pixel artist in the slightest. Its all currently placeholder art, ill replace later anyways.

Honestly some of the AI pixel art doesnt look as obviously slop as it used too. Should I just say fuck it and use AI art for a more polished and readable game?
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>>585980461
You can't, this will kill solo indie dev and indie dev. They all look like shit doe, finally free from this dogshit hobby
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>>585981089
Holy fuark, is Cris finally going to create his dream game?!
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>>585981089
i'm fucking kneeling gawd he's too good
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>>585981296
>AI pixel art
Have claude create the pixel art with code, instead of genning pixel art with an image model
It'll be shit but it'll be actual pixels
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>>585980936
no you see, it was called REI: Electrical Hauting chapter.

It had a parry ok? and a just release boosted shot. if you did a dash jump with a charged attack it did a DIVEKICK! It also had all my hopes and dreams at the time. :(
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>>585980098
Back then people would think this is really cool. But now? Everyone's become so pessimistic they just say "lol clone".
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>anons finally bullied cris into working again
we're so back aggygoogy
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>>585981294
Because for you retards "having good gameplay" or " having new gameplay" means adding a completly abhorrent mechanic or gimmick.

Gameplay been solved for over 30 years and few games handle and play like the games from 30 years ago. Find why before adding a dogshit gimmick
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>>585981476
Be glad. Low effort will be called AIslop. Make high effort while it lasts, before the models can do perfect 3D
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>>585981089
my god she looks human
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>>585981559
What kind of subhuman makes 3d models by hand?
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>what kind of subhuman doesn't use AI saaaaaaar?!
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>>585981634
Whitehumans do
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>weight painting for 45 minutes is art saaar
>saaarr this is my sovlful
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>>585981801
Post your game real quick
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You first mr saarr
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>>585981945
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>>585969016
Still not gonna show my game until I'm closer to release. Too high risk to lose my advantage of building the game in secret. Didn't read it all but did he ever cover the potential risk of AI getting better to clone at better degrees?

>pic related
Also what did Zuk mean by this? *at the bottom of the article*
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>ask friends to help playtest my game
>silence, absolute crickets in the chat, act like I begged them to loan me $100
>those same friends will play blatantly unfinished early access slop and fucking PAY for the privilege of doing so

It would be one thing if they tried it and said it wasn't their kind of game. But it's just a quiet refusal to even give it a chance. Meanwhile they'll play early access friendslop for $5 and early access survival crafter for $15 dollars and somehow rope 3-5 people into doing the same.
This shit is seriously making me contemplate never talking to them again.
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>>585981801
you can make the limbs modular like psx models, and that way avoid weight painting.

In the end a good workflow can save 99% of the manual labour of doing it by hand.
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>>585981985
BASED
BTFO'D THAT JEET
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>>585981634
>make model with clay and wire
>3d scan it
>get AI to retopo, weight paint, rig, clean up texture glitches from the 3d scan in one click
this will be my workflow when available.
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>>585982031
your game is probably garbage and not fun looking.
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>>585982043
Cris, post your latest 3D HD 2D HD ultimate workflow model
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>>585981990
she's on a haystack and wants to find your needle.
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>>585982031
Are these discord "friends" or are they actual friends?
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>>585969016
Happy to be part of the last human generation. Even the chart makes me feel nostalgic.

Can't even imagine what's being a souless gollem zoomer killing everything from the internet, to indie gaming, to even society.
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>>585973556
we've come so far...
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workflow is a buzzword
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>>585981294
I'm reinventing the wheel by making an MM 2d sprite game with 360 degree firing and hating myself every second for my decision
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>>585981451
nice i remember when you just had the black girl and blonde guy
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>>585982261
and worked so hard...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pVe4KeT5UY

Music from my fan game for MGR
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>>585982031
Your friends sound 15yo
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>>585982261
Why does this look more fun than Kanna's game? I'm genuinely asking
It feels more dynamic even though I know that game controls like shit. Visually it's more interesting and the animations are more interesting maybe?
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>>585982204
This was my latest attempt, but It has some steps that require AI, so I wasn't happy with that.
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>>585982445
Because it has actual gameplay? Are you guys pretending to be retarded or what, is this a bit or something
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>>585982238
Actual friends
>>585982151
It's not like I'm marketing to strangers in public.
We have literally all pitched in $5 each to play worse games. At least my game stands on its own solo or multiplayer where as they'll pay to play games they'd never play solo and play 1-3 times. I'm literally just asking for 30 minutes of their time.
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>>585982031
its cuz ur friends actually dont want you to improve
>>585982445
mml is not a bad game
in fact its one of the very best
this is like saying why does led zeppelin sound better than the guitar prodigy down the street
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>>585982549
Even if you remove the gameplay the game still mogs because of it's design and actual art.

One is a tranny wearing mega man skin. The other is a dungeon crawler / adventure game.
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>>585982445
>>585982549
is this the famous concern trolling crab tactic?
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>>585982613
im saying that visually and the description of your game doesnt interest your friend group as much as that of peak or whatever, i cant tell you why that is without knowing the game
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>>585982549
>>585982445
Gameplay aside Kanna's has a cute loli but the clothes and design besides being a loli aren't interesting and the generic enemies + fantasy aren't as interesting as megamans extremely distinct designs. Nothing draws the eye
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>>585982309
these were most of the bosses, then I started working on the first stage and then.... lost motivation, was pressured to get a job after graduating, etc, etc.... Another game on my pile of abandoned stuff.
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>>585982762
but.. appeal
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Cris:well well looks like you died
Kanna:shut up
Cris:HA me shut up?!
Kanna:how about we workflow one more time
Cris:ha ok LETS DANCE takes out sword
Kanna:yeah let’s dance takes off glasses
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>>585982861
It has appeal but the enemies and stuff and the clothes on the loli are generic, it doesnt have as much creative directions but anyone acting like a oneman autist can come up with as good of ideas as a big studio back when they had soul is also dumb
I just wish kanna worked a bit longer on the artistic vision
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>>585982834
the crimson turbo redpill is that all those things had to happen for you to make this game even better...
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>Kanna:how about we workflow one more time
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>>585982883
kino
i want to see cris big bald brown head in dbz style
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>>585982445
mortan enemies are the most plain things you can think of
>a skeleton
>a crab
>a carnivorous plant
he'd ought to put something more into the designs.
>a skeleton covered in bees
>a zombie loli with a guts whip and lasso attack
>a hollow crab exoskeleton filled with hivemind worms
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cris is bald?
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>>585982445
I was typing a big reply but its literally just the enemies are really boring
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what is essential reading on game design?
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Is indie deving actually dead?
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>The other is a dungeon crawler / adventure game.
which one?
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Megaman legends is garbage too lets not get carried away here the shit was hated even back then. Uncs just woke up one day and decided they liked it cuz graphix o algo
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>>585983612
it is garbage but the visual design is more interesting than kannas game and kanna should genuinely make it more interesting with the enemies
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>>585983553
The one that is actually made by people instead of a beaner prompting.
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>>585983535
Not while I can work on my game
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>>585983650
there is no dungeon crawler game in this thread
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>>585983663
working for free is retarded. Money should be a small incentive, otherwise we end up retarded like russia or china.
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>>585983612
No? It was like one of my fav games back in the PS1 days. I even own a little MegaMan Volnutt action figure IRL...
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>>585983612
the n64 version is awesome and the controls are fantastic
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>>585983612
I became more aware of it during the megaman legends 3 debacle. 3d megaman was not a legend in my circles. I do love the art.
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>>585983873
I can always pay myself to work on my game
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>>585982967
Kannadev here:
I'm still adding more enemies, hopefully I will manage to get them in before DD starts.
I will start adding more playable lolis with more interesting designs next month too.
The levels are also going to get more stuff.

What's wrong with the enemy designs?
I'm going with their iconic looks that everyone recognizes and not trying to be different or fix what ain't broken. The skeletons look like skeletons, the spiders look like spiders, etc.
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must be weird for a zoomgollem to realize that people actually played those games back in the day and people liked them.

What a souless generation.
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>>585981990
zuck is a porn addicted that's why joke so much about sex/porn and got 20 years older in 2 months
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>>585983293
no, he just has a very long forehead that extends all the way over to top.
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so the rolling ball game dev is now making glidestars?
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>>585984169
This only works cause you stole megaman legends looks through prompting by the way. Can't even tell what's wrong with basic dogshit prompted models. No one would glance a single eye if it wasn't stolen legends.
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>>585984336
The models aren't prompted...
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>>585984169
interesting defense. iconic huh. some games create icons you know. afraid to get a little creative?
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>>585982445
>all these designlets getting it wrong
it's the speed and movement animations of megaman. the loli is too stiff and slow to look fun
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>>585984526
Prove it
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instead of working on my game, I spent the entire day vibecoding a gui git client because i don't like any of the options available...
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>>585984526
the textures are doebeit
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>>585984169
Her dress takes battle damage when she gets hit right say yes
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I thought mortans look came from a stable diffusion with megaman legends LORA image, but maybe I'm not remembering right. I swear this AI elf girl was posted constantly before there was a 3d model of it.
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>>585984553
>afraid to get a little creative?
I'm saving it for my next game.
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>>585984684
i only prompted x is dogwhistle for i prompted the game
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>>585984764
save it for the judge!
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>>585984652
?I think it turned out pretty decent tho, still need blame + stashes + a few other things
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>>585984557
Yeah, I've been thinking that's the case for a while. 3D animation is clearly not my strong suit.
I was considering hiring an animator to do a pass on the running, rolling and attack animations but I'm still not sure...
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>>585984169
this is good, but It lacks post processing, color grading and juiice and vfx.

Right now is like a dish with quality meat and rice, but without spices and salt.
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cris, you've never even made scrambled eggs
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>>585985156
what do you mean?
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>>585985156
He's still working on the workflow.
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nice to see so many anons help kanna with feedback on how to improve his game, now if only my game got that type of care and attention...
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>>585985272
new vocabulary for you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coherent
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>>585985398
post game
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>>585985398
the rich(pretty) get richer
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>>585984970
AI not good enough to make the animations yet?
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>>585985524
I don't know...
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>>585985156
cris has made scrambled kino
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>>585985398
my advice always has been to just learn the fundamentals before seeking any criticism.
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>>585985725
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Didn't Notch also stole mineacraft? Or am i confusing him with someone else? Someone that stole a star flash game where you are able to rotate the level to capture stars? Phil something fish?

How come people never really pointed out StarDew Valley for literally having Chrono in the game, or Toby for literally having Nes in the game?

Seems a bit hypocritical to now be angry at slopper cause it no longer gatekeeps people from stealing games.
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>>585987089
video games are for children so all the discourse surrounding them is 40-70iq
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>>585981296
>Should I just say fuck it and use AI art for a more polished and readable game
Probably not. Current gamers are more receptive to programmer art than ai art right now. Your intended audience should already be used to low art-fidelity games anyways.
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>>585987323
cope
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>>585987469
how's progress with roguetown?
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>>585987089
Many of Shakespeare's plays were based on ancient roman plays. Nobody gives a shit about influence, they care about losing their ability to extract rent for their gatekept skills
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>>585987254
Yeah but game deving is not or at least it wasn't 10 years ago so i'm asking.

Why are you people not nearly as harsh with the devs that stole from others back in the day? aka 99% of the western devs. How come NOW is a problem If anything AI is more morally correct than something like Stardew valley or Minecraft. NOW it's a problem because you don't need mediocre coding abilities to steal a prototype and turn it into fez
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>>585988147
>gatekept skills
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>>585988208
I am realizing more and more that
>muh skills
may be the ultimate spook. The entire concept is a social construct.
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>>585988208
There is not enough time in a life to become genuinely good at story and music and level design and coding and system architecture and marketing and art direction and 3d modeling and everything else. The gate keeping is time.
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>>585988324
>The entire concept is a social construct.
so is money anon, we still have to survive in the social construct
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>>585988208
>gatekept skills
Enough skill to steal from Snes games. Not enough to finish a shitty chocalatier game in a decade.

These days claude simply goes brrrr
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>>585988416
>we still have to survive in the social construct
That's what they want you to believe, yeah.
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>But I can't do art!
Buy asset packs. That's what they're there for
>But I can't code
Asset packs and tutorials
>But I can't make music!
A S S E T P A C K S
-
Most successful indie games are built with asset flips. You hyper focus on the outliers that weren't and pysop yourself into self sabotaging.
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>>585988415
>There is not enough time in a life to become genuinely good at story and music and level design and coding and system architecture and marketing and art direction and 3d modeling and everything else. The gate keeping is time.

Explain this then, they all good at everything except for Carmack who turned to be a fucking imbecile later on in life. Code only btw.

>but but they can't code like Carmack!11!

But now they can. Everyone can.
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>>585988681
>Most successful indie games are built with asset flips
Name 5
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>>585988681
Hmm. Think I'll just use AI, thanks.
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I believe in kannadev
this demo day everyone will be converted to a believer
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>>585988693
No they aren't. That's my explanation. Show me the game that is amazing in every single category that every single one of them (except Carmack) made by themselves.
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>>585988693
There is nothing more brown and low IQ than being anti-Carmack.
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>>585988681
honestly just use ai at that point
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>>585988816
Vampire Survivors (seriously look it up)
Phasmophobia
Inscryption
Getting Over It
Surroundead
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>>585988816
vampire survivors
expedition 33
only up
megabonk
phasmaphobia
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>>585988816
Undertale
StardewValley
Minecraft
Portal (uni team was hired by valve so not sure if you can steal from yourself)
Stardewrraria... sorry er.. Terraria
Vampire Survivors
Stanley Prable
Starbound
World of Horror

And these are the ones that are made by lazy faggots so you are able to tell that they are flipped assets. Imagine how many people just actually modified them to be beyond recognition.
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>>585989025
>>585989072
>>585989107
Sorry I've already done some art tests with AI that look way better than any of these games. Future is now!
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>>585989107
Was starbound actually successful? Man that game was such a let down
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Devcat in lap
+1 to all skills
-1 movement
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>>585988943
Yeah they are, good at art, good at level design, good at sculpting FWWWAAAAAAAARK. They were carried by Carmack coding a space to put those things in but now you can have your own Carmack.

Romero would've made you his bitch if claude was available back in the day.
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>>585989025
>>585989072
all slop
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>>585989291
>Romero would've made you his bitch if claude was available back in the day.
this is bullshit and you know it, Romero has to be tardwrangled
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>>585989223
>Starbound has generated an estimated $77.3 million in gross revenue and $22.8 million in net revenue on Steam, according to market data analytics
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>>585989291
No, they as a team were good you stupid faggot. They didn't individually all have the exact same skills
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>>585989362
All made a shit load of money. Anyone against using asset packs is either sabotaging themselves or trying to sabotage you.
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>>585989362
popular asset flips indie games not good games.
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Just talked to an insider. Release your game now before it is too late. This is your last chance to make it.
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>>585987089
yeah.
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>>585989539
times have changed you will just be called AI slop
your game will look worse than a competent AI game
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>>585989656
It's a joke anon i know Notch Stole minecraft, Phil Phish stole FeZ and stardew valley and undertale flipped assets (probably more than that).

Tis be the future zoomers created, why play and support good games like God Hand when you can play minecrap with brown bricks. Fuck good games, more slop. More minecrappy clones, more GBC clones, More Shmup clones, more vampire savior clones, more clones. Endless clone works.
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I'm in the closet about my AI use. one day it will be safe to come out right? I don't want to get AI bashed.
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'goon are you around?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4834840/Ecstatica/
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My game's tutorial will require you to graduate the public school system where the teacher teaches you how to play the game. In my game, WW3 has already been taking place for 20 years so public school has been retrofitted to teach you to willingly die in the war. The plot twist is new players will unironically believe they are being taught the correct way to play the game but actually are being taught the completely wrong way because the teacher's name is Mrs Shekelstein and she is teaching you to die for Israel.

So you load into the actual game after graduating without zero actual idea how to play and having been taught a bunch of lies.
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>>585990395
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>>585990573
In the tutorial you are given an entire decoy of the game's setting, it is framed as if you are in some cool sci-fi future war society like Starship Troopers or something, only after you graduate do you realize it is still actually a lame war where you die for Israel, but you have to discover that.
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>>585990610
6 colors
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>>585990573
I'm considering making everything that takes place at school by anime styled, your character will look like an anime character, but after you graduate Mrs Shekelstein says "TURN OFF THE ANIME HOLOGRAM!" and afterward you realize you are in a gritty realistic game and not an anime character.
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my own mom called me a braphog.
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>>585985272
holky shit wtf is that ugly ass filter
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Im not joking my mom learned the worst brap and literally called me a braphog when i farted
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is cris' mom hot
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>>585978403
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I look like a fatter, blacker version of Rampage Jackson. What game should I make?
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Can claude playtest
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>>585991338
start with pong
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>>585991338
Get this hair
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>>585991481
Is that Garett from FFVIII?
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>>585991481
kino
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im brown and bald and need a workflow, what game?
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>>585992072
Space invaders
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what is cris' actual game? his ideal game?
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https://nrasko.itch.io/the-frydarian-tale

is this worth playing
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>>585992253
its kino
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>>585984169
>Girl heroine
>No girl enemies such as witches, fairies, and Dryads
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>>585992365
trvke
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why did betz stop posting
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>>585992545
He had a meltdown and tried to dox Fygoon, both are gay and trans, and then got embarrassed at his meltdown and ran away from the thread
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>>585992545
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tripcode/%21a8Ll55b.M./
The timeline from normal posting with the trip to total meltdown says it all
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does betz ever get embarrassed by his total lack of viewers at v3
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give gamers what they want
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>>585992795
kannas scared to actually have sexual cunny bc hed get doxxed or smth idk what his reason was
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Wtf you guys said claude was smart. I asked it to make a bunch of stuff that scaled off the player's base speed and I just checked the code and it's been manually defining the base speed everywhere so I have to sweep through everything if I ever change player speed. Now I have to waste tokens telling the dumb fuck to fix it.
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>>585993053
bro is using sonnet on free plan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An7Yv5uovQo
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>>585993120
This is going to make more money than you will ever in your entire life btw
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Wtf is betz actually a tranny? is that his avatar on the youtube?
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>>585993339
He used to be a normal dude if you look at old streams
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>>585992545
Non schizo here
He threatened fygoons mom and got scared shitless after and regretted it
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This is your competition.
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>>585992545
v3 broke Lowkey's spirit and I am eternally grateful
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>>585993558
This will make more money than you ever will with game dev btw
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lowkey only posts in vibe coded general on /g/ now with no trip kek
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>>585993053
>I have to sweep through everything if I ever change player speed
uhh lol just ask claude to do it
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>>585993606
I miss that lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>585993339
>his avatar
*her
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Who is this lowtax guy and what was his game?
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>>585993797
Some kind of vibe coded wizard game
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>>585993785
xetz*
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>>585993884
this shit looks like straight ass
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uh oh 'dite melty
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>>585993884
literal kino
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>literal kino
>looks like babys first unity game
any of you actually finished a game before the year 2023 or no?
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pdf meltie because gameplay got posted
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>>585994389
>>585994183
post your game real quick
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>>585994389
pdfs are the only ones posting gameplay thobeit
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>>585993884
this shit looks like straight literal kino
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>>585993884
It would be 1 million times cooler if there was another dragon that fought your dragon thing
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>people are defending a known tranny tripfag
Lowkey is not your hero
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>>585992980
he has a pure heart
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>>585994496
he is a mexican living in the uk thats afraid of legal action.
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>>585993884
This would be kino if it was made by hand but the fact that some bot shat this out removes all charm and sense of love and labor it might have had
No ones gonna care about AIshart until its shitting out stuff greater than elden ring and other AAA, not amateur looking video games
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>>585994424
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I am an arttranny what game do i make? I have 100k follows on twitter.
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>masters in math that ive done nothing with but i can prompt claude efficiently when making my physics engine
yeah im gonna make it.
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>>585994564
holy fucking cope
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If I actually showed a really good game you guys would tell me it's good right?
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>>585994564
holy fucking TRVKE
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>>585994548
>he is a mexican living in the uk
how the fuck does that happen
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>>585994783
you think hes going to sell his game enough to even make back the steam fee?
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>>585994803
Nope.
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>>585994564
>No ones gonna care about AIshart until its shitting out stuff greater than elden ring
So basically anything better than a 4/10, seems simple enough.
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>>585994949
post your game real quick
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>>585994830
Why would an AIfag buy another AIfag's game? That money should go to Claude.
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>>585992980
I don't want to do porn games because I don't care for porn games.
Can a man not make wholesome loli games that kids of all ages can enjoy??
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>>585995537
are you a pedo irl?
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>loli fan thinking about kids playing his game
Huh
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'gress
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>>585981296
just play 8 or 16 bit games and see how they make their tiles. as long as you don't genuinely hate doing pixel art you will get better eventually
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>>585995562
No. What kind of question is that?
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>>585995623
this is the worst crt filter ive ever seen nigga go read some code on github
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>>585995746
ludmeltie
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>>585995740
So you are actually a pedo irl and anything responding to my post including not responding is confimation that you are a pedo irl? I see.
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>>585995740
'risu...
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>>585995623
A real AI dev would give players the full moveset from God Hand
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>>585995796
But I said No...
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>>585995779
no it seriously is a bad crt filter, theres a lot of options you can steal from to get a genuine crt look nowadays like the emulators can use, give it to claude as an example
not everything is "luddite" im being honest
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>>585982445
colour palette is less monotonous, enemies are engaged from further away, areas are bigger, megaman isn't dodge rolling everywhere or zooming in
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>>585995867
Thanks for confirming that you are a pedo irl by responding. It's good that you live in North America and admitted this.
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>>585984169
your environments are 90% green and some red brown rocks. add more textures
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>>585995942
based
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>>585984169
I actually think the zoom does a huge disservice to the game feel by making it feel sluggish looking in the videos at least.
The firing could be more dynamic while moving with IK or something instead of just aimed shots. Its not like the precisely aimed shots affect enemies directly or anything
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>>585996002
It's a forest... how else is a forest supposed to look like...
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>>585984169
>skeleton falls down instead of falling apart
3/10
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>>585996223
>more saturated blue sky
>dirt texture on the ground
>grass sprites
>sign
just proving my point. also i swear that area has grey stuff and some sand
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decided to stop sugar coating what i'm making.
i will never see success if i just copy the crowd of endless game devs at this point.
my game is about killing niggers and jews, in space. i tried to hide that during development and add it only after release, but no.
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>>585996356
while every game right now is trying to eliminate toxicity, even OG games that used to allow it, my game is about being as toxic as possible. we support it.
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>>585996223
also the area in megaman legends is a lot more open, your game is set in really cramped rooms
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>>585996223
this still looks more readable than kanna's
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>>585996356
sounds boring
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>>585996356
post gameplay
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>>585996356
since i know almost all players will play the white race, i have to give other races some extra reason to be played, and that reason is: being the leader of NPCs hordes of the same race as you. for example if you are white, the only other whites are real players so there's no "white npc hordes" you can be the leader of. but if you were Indian for example, you will be allowed to be the leader of a horde of up to 20 other Indian NPCs and tell them what to do.

this is how i ensure whites are outnumbered.
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>>585996742
no
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>>585996826
>>585996356
any gameplay?
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>>585996841
any gameplay sir?
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>>585996848
>>585996943
yeah
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>>585996997
post your game real quick
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>>585996997
feel free to post it little bro
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>>585996997
>>585996356
Nodev
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unironic loser behavior
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>>585996356
Post your hand with timestamp
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>>585996356
Not seeing any game yet, nodev
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good morning sirs
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>>585997235
no indian is up at 10am
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3:55:51PM
Thursday, October 29, 2026 (GMT+11)
Sydney NSW, Australia
good morning
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>>585996075
You think almost no zoom looks better?
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>>585997393
indian
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>>585997393
I genuinely believe so yeah. Even with the aim like that this already feels better
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>>585997393
I can clone your game without gpt over a weekend
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>>585997393
Add some stagger to enemies or reactions maybe? But yeah the less zoom makes it feel more fast paced
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>>585997491
you cant clone the appeal thoubeito
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>>585996223
It's like you turned your saturation to 100 for every single color, tone it down a bit
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>>585997583
i can doe ill add actual sex
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>>585997393
looks good to me but I would still make zoomage a setting
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>>585997583
I would do a lot more as I'm 50% nippon and understand more than (you) about appeal
also see >>585997635
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>>585997635
>>585997698
all talk, no bite
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kanna would shoot himself if someone actually cloned his game
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>>585997698
Post your game real quick
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>>585997004
>>585997056
>>585997130
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>>585997764
No, I wouldn't. I welcome more loli games.
It's not like my game isn't kind of a clone already...
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>>585997871
that's a man and you are a fag
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>>585997871
youd definitely shoot yourself if someone was more successful
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>>585997393
she looks like she fucks goblins
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The best thing you can do is take whatever advice this thread has to offer you and do the opposite. This post isn't advice though, it's law
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>>585997871
Why do armpit artists draw the pits as red and rashy? Its gross as fuck. I dont mind armpits but they should be smooth and cute and pale like the rest of them
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>>585997926
Loli =/= Gender
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I advise you guys take this guys law seriously >>585997973
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>>585997938
But there's already plenty of people more successful than me...
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is kanna fat irl
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>>585997989
only nodevs have smooth pits
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>>585998123
hes a twink
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>>585997871
thanks, please post more images like this, spam the thread with them until these post game spammers leave
it's on topic since it motivates our development of appealing video games
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>>585997829
>FNAF but kekmode
not bad
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Current session
Resets at 2:30 AM
41% used
Resets Sunday 12:00 AM


NOT
GONNA
MAKE ITTTT!!
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>>585996223
there is a pregnant lady in this zone
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>>585997998
are you going to explain shota for everyone next
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>>585997829
how come the schizos are ignoring this? fucking nodevs
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>>585998307
w
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because it's unappealing, are you not paying any attention to the discussion
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>>585998167
that's a game from 3 years ago, he didn't make it
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>>585997829
nodev
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Will my game bomb and be ridiculed if I keep kenney assets for my characters and base enemies? I actually like them.
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So uhhh... do I lower the zoom then?
Most people here seem to prefer it I guess that's how I will leave it for Demo Day.

Anyways, it's my time to go. I feel like I attracted too much attention to myself this thread, it's for the other devs to have their chance in the spotlight.
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>>585998758
>it's for the other devs to have their chance in the spotlight.
there is no other devs nigga, this general is over
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Heads up. At this pace you’ll run out Saturday night, before Sunday’s reset.
Current session
Resets at 2:30 AM
42% used
Resets Sunday 12:00 AM
58% used

oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck oh god fuck fuck fuck no pleasel met he ave al ittle more progress
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Hey Kanna, set your twitter profile to country instead of continent. Are you hiding Mexico?
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>>585998758
big gulps huh? well, see ya later!
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>>585998758
I wish her outfit was more interesting
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>>585998758
I like the less zoom, but you can always make it a toggle
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>>585998743
only if the game is bad.
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>>585998758
Give an option to zoom but remove it from Default.
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>>585998953
>Are you hiding Mexico?
Yes, don't tell the glowies though.
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Found this on a youtube thumbnail
LOL
Thought you guys would enjoy
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>>585999695
timmy has this tattoo
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>>585997871
i look like this... is that weird?
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>>585999695
I thought Unreal was slop though
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>>585993558
the real redpill is that they have the ai disclosure on and its still positive?

perhaps people just expect ai games to be free?
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>>585993558
This is your competition.

It just dawned on me that you can easily outperform 1 person using AI. But you can't really outperform small indie studios cheating at max capacity, it's legit over.
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>>586001236
cock and ball torture
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i'm not chris but with the correct workflow you might not even need to clean the artwork, i'm not even sure what they are doing but the game looks dithered and artifacted like a AI picture. The cutscene clearly looks like AI. Normies won't be able to tell

Thoughts? i think it's over. You either form a team to compete with the AAA layed off talents + 10/10 grads or you release a game lost in thousands and thousands of automated AI slop , they don't even bother playing what they upload for 5 minutes. Shit's grim , super grim.
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>>586001236
guns and nuns but good?
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>>586001108
is it a jrpg?
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>>586001236
Why does it have tony hawk pro skater 2 multiplayer on the n64 fog
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>>586001520
idk man the webm quality could be causing normal dithered pixel art(pc98 style) to look weird.
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ludstatus?
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>>585997764
>>585997491
you cant really clone mortan because he makes specific design choices and you'll just be looking at what he does than you'd be second fiddle
your only option is to make even weirder choices when making a clone
and then its not really a clone anymore
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proggin
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>>586001108
>It just dawned on me that you can easily outperform 1 person using AI. But you can't really outperform small indie studios cheating at max capacity, it's legit over.
They have to play it safer with their ideas though.
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>It’s almost 2am, babe. One quick playtest, and then bed. Don’t make me come over there~

Claude is so cute...
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>>586001682
100% AI, this is how a pixel art game made by a small team looks like, it's solid and the pixels are placed in a deliberate way. The only thing that *might* not be AI are the characters but jfc look at the fucking bed.
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>>586001817
>blue balls in the snow
reminds me of the time I went ice fishing
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>>586001520
its not over
this scene has dogshit pacing and dog shit character design
yuri is totally gay and safe horny
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>>586001917
that's not how taxes work lol
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>>586001917
Where's he going? texas?
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>>586001876
bed looks fine
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>>586001917
Another rich californian asshole coming to live in my state I bet. Great.
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>>586002250
You say that because you *care* about the product, normies don't. Devving is getting automatized.

Making a wild prediction. member that account with 10000 jiggies puzzles made with AI? That's the future but with actual "good games". Accounts that output an absurd amount of content, completly automatized, actual good playable and kinda good games for certain demographics. If you want a metroidvania or a 3d platformer you go do the designated automatized account and get 1 for 2
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>>586002503
it is in commiefornia
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after so much ideaguying and introspection I finally came up with an interesting idea for a gaem that I won't dump in a week AND it fits perfectly for my skillet and interests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67oSfkcxA80
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The obnoxious AI spam from a small number of resident schizophrenics has made this general unusable. Genuinely unpleasant even
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>>586001917
Based, fuck being forced to provide gibs for spics whilst wall st jews get richer
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>start vibin' after not devin' for a while
>models suck for clod, need to tweak
>completely forgot how to use blender
I got into edit mode, what now
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>>586001108
what's with the weird kick animation
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>>586003609
Heavy hammer on one side means you have to balance your weight or you fall
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>>586003378
you will never be notch
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>>586003378
kinda crazy how germany and the bible almost got rid of the bankers.
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>>586002610
that one is kinda cool i guess it is over
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>>586001917
I hope one day gaben is taxed 30% of his wealth to pay for my neetbux.
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>>586003914
you will never be a real parasite
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>>586001520
It feels like she just stands there once you gain control, she should have particle effect and turn the whole church red
Go look at the binding of Isaac and how the final bosses of the game where introduced
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>>586004261
ok
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>>586001236
I meant this one about standing there
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>>586004292
Sorry for making you reply to me I have acute bronchitis and it's preventing me from sleeping. I have been breathing manually for 8 hours now I probably would have had to go to the ER if I didn't have guaifenisin at home which allowed me to expectorate enough phlegm to ride it out
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>>586004543
I've already seen enough of this art style but my game is laggy and ugly so don't mind me
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>>586004543
ai slop
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>>586001520
The art and all is fine but that dialogue is horrible also playing as a lesbian is really gay
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>>586004623
ai slop means any game better than cris'
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>>586004543
prompt?
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>>586004616
playing around with other UI styles as well
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>>586004907
It started with something like
>review and suggest an implementation plan for the attached 15 pages of notes
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>>586004930
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>>586001520
They just copied Katana Zero...
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this general needs a serious and dedicated lolispammer
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post your game
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>>586001520
holy agp
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>>586005810
kanna you only like this game because of its ultra violence and also because it revolves around a grown ass man falling in love with a little girl
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>come up with a way to bloat my game by 1.9 GB so my game can seem better than it actually is
>claude fixes my master ruse jeet plan by optimizing it
*sigh*
guess i just have to make it good now
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>>586006142
What's stopping you from shoving a bunch of 4k textures on everything :)
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>>586006142
Just add some giant mipmaps you never use
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Is there a trick to using absurdly high numbers for damage and hp? It seems like a pain in the ass to balance compared to small numbers like 1-9999.
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>>586006001
It's kino...
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/agdg/ has been going on for a long time now.
Are there are devs whose progress you liked seeing, but they stopped posting for one reason or another?
I remember Fungolem, the guy who made the RPG game with the tank and giant Yeti girl. Looks like he shelved the project years ago now.
I also liked The Gun is Good.
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>>586007318
Tomo
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>>586006635
Lol you're retarded the bigger the numbers are the less the other numbers matter, just make each number actually 2 digits and add 3 random digits to each hit
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its ludover
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>>586007318
I miss the dev with the ellipsoid dragon game. He was pretty much a /agdg/ staple and a regular in the /v/ dev threads too. This place has been so devoid of life since he left. There was also that dev working on a fantasy harem family raising game with Elves but he too left this place and even wiped his entire online presence. We lost so many good devs to the crabs these past few years. I hope /agdg/ can recover soon. It might take many more years.
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>>586008417
shutup loser
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AI animation needs to improve quick man, my game looks like POOPY
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Yesterday i accidentally inhaled some of my saliva. Now i woke up and feel like my throat feels weird and i have a cough. Debating whether that's enough for me to call in sick for work so i can rest and see if it goes away
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>>586009183
Save you sick days till WoW Forever drops on the 4th
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>>586001236
god I wish my games could look like this
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>>586009218
I decided to stay home after all. I actually do have a pretty annoying cough that makes my chest hurt but hopefully it goes away. Hopefully i can get some proggy done too
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>>586007318
>Are there are devs whose progress you liked seeing, but they stopped posting for one reason or another?
Me...
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>the ai did something retarded again

>>586005848
Hard truth
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people should not expect ai assisted games to be free because it still takes one developer months of work even using ai to make any game of substance.

a team may be a somewhat different story. but ultimately why the fuck should any game be free? devs just waste their life to give entitled gamers something for nothing?
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i actually hate gamers with a passion. i'm trying to hide it from my 300 or so people audience ive gotten so far. i just mean in general not all gamers, but a good 80%. but then again i hate 80% of all humans everywhere so it lines up.

considering just openly hating gamers without caring who knows it.
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>>586001236
i sometimes think about how making a game with non-realistic graphics doesn't attract the majority of gamers but then i also remember gamers who like realism in games are the type of gamer i hate with a passion. i dont even WANT them playing my game. realism fags are the worst type of gamers.
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>>585992545
>>585992616
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My biggest productivity sink is wanting to replay a game of Master of Orion every single day. I uninstalled it and deleted my GOG password so I'd need to reset it to login to GOG and download Master of Orion again and I thought this would work but it's not!
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>>585992784
he says it flopped in the manifesto he posted
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imagine a Rust/Ark-like game where you are incentived to NOT randomly kill every stranger you meet. crazy how that has seemingly never been done before. that describes my dream game.
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>>586014520
and the solution to this is to make players live in an actual society, provide one for them, and a framework that incentivizes not being a nuisance to that society, while at the same time you can physically just randomly kill anyone at any time. but the game provides an easy law enforcement framework players can get jobs within.
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>>586006142
put in lots of music. 90% of my game's size is audio.
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>>586014520
>>586014597
have you tried playing aneurism 4
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>>586007318
>Are there are devs whose progress you liked seeing, but they stopped posting for one reason or another?
most of them. I liked seeing people post and talk about their games.
well don't really miss the furry devs and other weird fetish games. but I can just scroll past them.
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>>586014520
oh wow another clone
oh wooooooooow another craft survivor
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Who is the scheming eunuch of agdg
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>>586015404
betz
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>>586015404
you, since you're the only one who cares
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>>586015404
me sorry
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>>585973556
>could just stay far from the plant and kill it without any risk
>intentionally walk into it so you have to dodge
>intentionally get hit so you can show the animations
>the game now looks so much more dynamic and fun (if the viewer is retarded)
Indie devs should really stop doing this. Just play the game normally nigga
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>>586007318
tomo....
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>>585971474
I WILL shadow drop my game on a Tuesday (Zukowski's "worst day for releasing games" according to his guide).
I looked up his marketing guide and am doing the exact opposite of everything he says.
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I can't believe I have to swap from crpg to something else. Fuck me, it just ain't marketable compared to how easy you can spew out juicy third person combat.
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/agdg/ is pretty chill when Americans are asleep, ngl. I guess insomniac burgers and euros posting during work break are yesdevs.
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>>586017880
fuck off nodev
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>>586017942
Looks like my biggest fan is waking up ...
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>>586018000
you have no game
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>>586017880
it do be like that
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>>586017849
Show me a single indie game with juicy 3rd person combat
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I'm too horny to dev
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>>586019045
I've seen a few clips on twitter. I'm not doing great for getting my game out there, man.
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Wait... top down orblike could be just as good an option. Maybe a little easier.
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develop video games
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>>586020197
Yes! (In 30 days or so)
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>>586019045
genokids
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>>585960064
https://x.com/Mr_Salio/status/2115538112004673599

hey tranime pedophile, AI keeps improving whats wrong pedo? 2 more weeks and the bubble will burst any day now, you LOST
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>>586020661
why would the pedos be against ai? I am just glad that the guy that used to post his generated CP here is gone...
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>>586020795
you're about to get a new one it seems
>>586005848
>>586013043
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>>586020661
not bad. but I don't need an airplane so this is useless.
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>>586020661
>hey tranime pedophile
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>>586020909
>telling the pyromanic you're adding more fuel to the fire
Lol...
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>>586020795
Every single person that shills ai is disgusting
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>>586021619
I don't really understand, care to elaborate or?
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>>586021726
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>>586019747
that sounds lewd but would probably be popular
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>>586018035
>>586020909
I miss king Fygoon. He never tolerated tyrants like you ...

>>586019747
So why do we call them orblikes instead of Diablolikes?
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>>586022761
no game?
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>>586022942
Coding it right now lil nibba
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>>586023160
>same buffer on screen twice
what did they mean by this
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>>586023225
I usually have one at the top of the file, so you can edit the file easier. But you caught me before I scrolled up or while I was scrolling down or something.
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HOW DO I PREVENT MALICIOUS SCRIPT EXECUTION IN GODOT?

I'M MAKING A GAME WHERE USERS CREATE VISUAL BEHAVIOR TREES THAT GET CONVERTED INTO A SCRIPT THAT IS SENT TO MY SERVER. HOW DO I ENSURE THAT THEY CAN'T RUN ANY FUCK SHIT?
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>>586022761
huh? you agreed with me though
>Hard truth
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just post some fucking progress
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>>586024062
wasm
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>>586024534
Sure.
My postmortem is make a better game. Or give up.
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>>586024356
I think I replied to you on accident. Gomenasorry

>>586024534
see >>586023160
I'll post more soon
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>>586023160
uuuh where's the game?
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>>586024534
this. person reading this who'd been drawing some pixel art! post it now even if it's not finished and you don't like it much!
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>>586025719
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>>586003236
It's been like this for almost a year now.
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>>586025830
now animate it
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Sigh.
I'll call it a side project. At least I can reuse almost everything except the combat logic.
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>>586026738
rip
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>>586026738
she roped
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>>586003236
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>>586027209
I did enjoy how her head fell off.
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>>586026738
Unrealslop
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>>586027405
BAGGER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow
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>>586027808
That's a compliment. I'd rather have unreal slop that sells than slop slop that doesn't
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>>586026738
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This is your competition.
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>>586001917
thank fucking god get out of my state every EU/CHINESE NIGGERS SELL SELL SELL MOVE MOVE MOVE
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>>586028669
timber rush 3d!!? boulder rush! millionaire status?
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>The behavior is consistent with elevated everyday sadism and other Dark Tetrad traits. People high on those traits derive more reward from others’ frustration or withdrawal, and a low-moderation anonymous space with a recurring general makes the cost of continuing very low. Over years this can successfully drive constructive users away

>For adults, remains antisocial personality that began by age 15, plus multiple specific criteria such as repeated law-breaking, deceit, consistent irresponsibility, and lack of remorse.

>If the same individuals have no stable employment, no relationships, and a lifelong pattern of failure outside the internet, the likelihood of meeting full ASPD criteria rises.

>no stable employment
>no relationships
>and a lifelong pattern of failure outside the internet
>since 15yo

That's fucking crazy. A complete failure since 15 years old? It's usually the kids without fathers no? Some are just borned incorrectly i guess.
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>>586029127
what's your game?
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>>586029127
you're just retarded I guess
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>While it is a common cultural trope to blame toxic or antisocial behavior on growing up without a father, psychological research shows that the development of Dark Tetrad traits—including everyday sadism—is much more complex than a single family variable.

>Genetic Predisposition

Holy shit a family of fucking losers.

> Attachment and Early Environment. While family dynamics matter, the focus is typically on the quality of care rather than the struc Severe neglect, emotional abuse, inconsistent parenting, or trauma from any caregiver can disrupt healthy emotional development and empathy.

Abandonment, typical gen X shit.

>Peer and Digital Socialization: Especially regarding online behavior, individuals often seek out anonymous spaces because they already feel socially alienated or rejected by their physical-world peers

Well yeah, no one is going to stick around these massive fucking failures in real life

>>586029225
Go ask your family, OH WAIT YOU DONT HAVE ONE
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>>586029350
?
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Fucking gamercunts are spamming my 4 year old game with negative reviews for some reason again rn.

I haven't made any updates to it that would upset them either btw, like adding wokeshit or balancing changes they hate.
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>>586029350
don't commit suicide. I'm a ghost, and I a really don't recommend it.
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>>586029423
Your "gem" retard.

I do wonder how many of you are actually mentally ill. Doing it for hours and fucking years according to AI is not a mental illness despite the lack of empathy (common trait in psychopaths). I just think that you guys don't matter enough to be studied KEK

peopel ignore you in real life. But i do belive it is a mental illness, you had no family, you are like this since you are 15 and you will never be normal. Sorry dude, roll a loving family next life BRWHAHAHAHA
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>>586029596
...huh?
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>>586025719
Sure, here you go. Made some dialog start marker above the characters you can click. Took me a whole half a day, you may laugh at me.
I don't like using it myself but I 100% understand why people go the AI route, even the simplest things can take so much time. I don't hold it against them.
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you will never understand unconditional love
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>>586029763
Thanks. looks cool! the pop is popping.
I do hold it against them if they lie about it, but otherwise I don't care.
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>>586029447
Have you tried not being a horrible person on social media. It does wonders actually.
Personally, I never talk about my political views so I never attract THOSE people
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I've fucked up all my files and now I'm afraid to compile.
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>>586029127
>>586029350
nigga you might be takin this general too seriously
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>>586029839
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>>586031208
>claude, unfuck this
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>>586031208
don't worry about it you never had a game to begin with so no loss
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>>586029127
>>586029350
just because you are a failure does not mean you are a psycho
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>>586031208
you have to give your claude specific instructions on how to name all your files, variables, methods etc. otherwise you're retarded
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>>586031609
My cat said that's not real
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>>586031709
my cat just stares at me and won't try to snuggle anymore thinking of putting it down
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>>586031684
I raped my code without Claude though

>>586031403
I don't like giving it thousands of loc at once because it starts making small retarded changes.
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>>586031609
>just because you are a failure does not mean you are a psycho

yeah apparently, no idea how someone with no empathy that's a complete fucking loser spamming a thread for decades is not a psycho.

Maybe psychos actually get shit done unlike you faggots lelellele
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>>586031826
post game
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>>586031832
is this a truke or fnuke? sneed?
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>>586031782
rub catnip on your body
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>>586032085
i gave her a catnip toy she enjoys but other than that no beuno, she's getting fat too all she does is beg for food and sleep
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>>586031826
tell it to run any changes by you first
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>Indie game took 8 years
>6 years were learning the skills
>18 months making 3 first versions, scrapping the game
>All the assets are handcrafted by hand
>Indie guy doesn't use procedural modeling tools like geometry nodes to make the props and levels, doesn't use scatter tools to place grass, don't use tools like pixelover to render low poly as pixel art sprites
>Final version only has 2 months of effort
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Cris bros its over...
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>>586032278
sperm banks should only be for 120+ tested IQ
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>>586032153
you probably gave her diabetes.
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>>586030052
It quite literally has nothing to do with what I post on social media. Nobody even knows that I made this game. The gamercunts just find this game randomly through Youtub, Steme or other places and spam negative reviews on it.
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>>586032364
regular cat food, and she always has dry food and water
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>>586032249
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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>>586007318
dirkdev
grassCHAD
mongoldev
fishdev
mcchud
actually I looked for FISH and it turns out that he released it some months ago and it got a pretty good amount of reviews
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>>586032543
you're missing the point.

That's like saying the turkish march of mozart took 20 years to make or something, because It took mozart like 25-30 years of practice.

Cave story only took like 6 months of real work, because the guys scrapped like 3 times what he had.

The same with Stardew valley, that game was remade like 3-4 times.
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>>586032743
OK Cris is speaking some actual trvke here
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>>586029447
What are the complaints about? Translations? Did you say something anti homo and theyre mad? Did one of them ask that you add something to the game that was unfitting and after being told they came with redd*itors to negatively review your game?

>>586032278
Damn just how much do they make off the men they pay $20? It's like "donating blood" they give you like orange juice and some cookies and virtue signalling....and then turn arpund and sell it to a hospital for $1000+. No thanks man, especialpy not after covid. They can ask whether Im vaxxed or not but I cant demand unvaxxed blood in a scenario where I need a blood transfusion? Lol not giving my blood to them
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>>586032837
WRONG, you have talent or you don't
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>>586032937
all the guys with talent always are kids that start at age 4, hand teachers at age 6-7 and practice hard between age 11-15.
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>>586032741
Another one too add to my list of success stories here and how well they do financially. Looks like its currently at second place for agdg games released this year of we compare them solely off what they cumulatively made in the first 3 months.
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>>586033073
>>586032937
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is this what gamers want?
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>>586007318
I remember some random coming in asking if anyone had a copy of Fungolems game. Alas I don't know how to upload it for him to get his own copy.
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>>586033073
wait a minute i know this poster. Do you take breaks to shitpost on /ic/? Holy fuck dude lol lmao

And yeah you are right, it's over, kill yourself.
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>>586033182
are gore threads what humans want?
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>are gore threads what humans want?
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>>586033357
Cris is the grand overload of ALL of the 4chan creative boards. Lower your tone when you speak to him.
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>>586033631
decimated butthole
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>>586034219
>>586034219
>>586034219
>>586034219
>>586034219
>>586034219
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>>586032743
I don't know about the turkish march taking 25 years, since he didn't conceive of it 25 years prior. however cavestory and stardew devs did have a vision they were trying to reach in that time. they didn't make 'version 1', and then scrap it and make 'version 2', it was thousands of decisions adding and removing things. the iteration is part of the creation of it. You don't understand iteration because you never iterate, you just give up the moment it gets hard.
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>>586034441
So my chicuelas idea has 10 years because I've been tweaking the idea in my mind since 2014?
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>>586034817
Maybe. Maybe not. The machinations of your mind are an enigma.
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>>586032741
I was so surprised FISH did that well. I had 0 faith.
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>>586036910
it's kino, why would it not be successful?



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