>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zb2uWkkpbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNT2QTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFvzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVPNnmXv5<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordlessprevious>>586161531
5 DAYS AND THESE NIGGERS DESTROYED MY SPEC FUCK YOU FATMAN
ITS OVER
MY DRUID
>Was always going Dwarf Shaman to heal because its fun and always soulLuv Chain HealSimple asAnyone else?
glad they fixed druid and made it the retard gimp class again
Is seal twisting dead? I don't care but it will be funny to see Esfand throw a fit
ARMSKEKS LITERALLY GOT ANOTHER HEROIC STRIKE AS CAPSTONELOL!!!!
Post yfw you knew they were going to fuck everything up.
>expecting the dog shit team that worked on SOD to not fuck this up
>agonizing over whether to roll druid or priest on launch>blizzard decides for mepriest is gonna be max comfy
>saves paladin
>tfw no shaman changesThey'll surely do one last patch before release right? RIGHT?!
>>586192782It's a nice drawing but turn that HD shitmodel off
>>586192753I played a Druid. I had fun switching specs constantly because they all worked fine. (Except Balance)
>>586192579>>previous>>>586161531(Cross-thread)Anon?
>>586192843>Choosing something you'll play for years over balance changes that will ebb and flow every single patch and not gameplay or looks
>>586192778retard
>>586192843>surely no priest changes in the next 5 days
Why the fuck would they make such big changes AFTER the name reserve and less than a week before launch? Aggrend's greasy, fat hands cannot get a grip of the situation, clearly.
>>586192942no
>>586192746>the first good dwarf post made in this general
>"Aggrend on one of the podcasts: We have some interesting things and ideas in store for dataminers, don't worry."
Binding heal REMOVEDNew spell is binding heal but nerfed by 50%
Anyone on PVE Horde want to do dunjies later?
>>586192792
>>586192984Couldn't anyone just delete their character and create a new one with the same name?
WARRIORSKEKS YOU ARE A HYBRID CLASSLMAONEVER INVITING HYBRID DPS WARRIORKEKS
how do people still not realize this is the best pvp racial in the game?>every 15s, there's an automatic 10% hp differential between you and your enemy>scales with buffs and gear>level 30s were already hitting 2500 hp in the beta
Forever is DOA if they dont add arenas
>>586192859BASED FATASS TAKES A GIANT STEAMING TURDSTRAVAGANZA OVER SKYBORNE DRUIDS, just roll a skyborne priest...ohh wait
>>586192923that anon who posted these changes a week ago said they were removing wotlk and that more was to come so I am huffing cope they fix ele for launch
>>586192923replace warr with shaman/rogue
catbelf niggas eating good tonight.They're coming to the store for the low price of $150
>>586192792It was just a matter of when, not if.
>>586193127just how bad are you that your fights last more than 20 seconds?Unless you talk about PvE then fair enough.
I don't care about Druid. Or Paladin. Or Mage. Or Priest.Why did Wrack get nerfed? It's fucking abysmal dogshit already.Where are the Shaman changes?
>>586192957>and not gameplaythat's exactly what I'm basing my choice on though. They ruined the FUN gameplay of short GCD rejuv, and ruined the FUN gameplay of swiftmend not deleting your HoTs.
The charges, officer?
UNNERF SWIFTMEND >UNNERF SWIFTMENDUNNERF SWIFTMEND >UNNERF SWIFTMEND
>>586192757He can seriously fuck off with his TBC bullshit, arenas included. Never stops mentioning arenas, goddamn
>>586193127>implying it won't be nerfed
at least post the changes youre bitching about, have some decency you fuckers
o-okay how about the rogue changes
>>586193127>up to 5%>that means it's 5% every time bro
>>586193070i will play with you juno
female human magepvpsolo
>>586193149gurubashi has been in for 22 years
Reposting>>586192178The thing about berserk was that it also gave fear immunity that was kinda fucking important for pvp
paladin god. wondering what the fuck the giant changes on launch will be. this game is not ready at all so it's going to be fun playing the first 6 months. giant fucking changes everywhere
>>586193393yes, it is 5% every time. this has been confirmed in the beta. >>586193250paladin and SL warlock fights absolutely last more than 20s
why is someone at blizzard so obsessed with that stupid Arcane Resilience armor talent? no one ever took it even with 1 or 2 points, who the fuck is going to spend 3 points for some armor lmao
I don't understand why so many retail players bother bitching about Forever. Your sub already pays for both so just...don't play Forever. You don't see me bitching about MoP Classic because I can just choose to not install it. I play retail but I'm a raider, I play it for a difference experience than the reason I'm going to play Forever, they're fundamentally different games.
>>586193149Battlegrounds are fun, Arenas are not. Fuck 'em.
>>586193127>5% hp every 15 seconds niggas be getting an extra tick of shadow word pain every 15 seconds.ANEXTRATICK!!!EVERY 15 SECONDS
These changes are rather boring. Not impressed.>>586193236I'd pay 150 to lick her butthole
I will play druid because I am a masochist who hasn't even played any version of WoW since Cataclysm
>>586193491now gen her getting dicked down crazy style in this pov by human c*ck
>Seal Twisting replaced with a much less aids versionCool I guess
>>586192658owned
>>586193264you wont need Wrack anyways. it seems blizzard is dropping the ball with many class capstone talents. They even took Berserk off druids because they knew it was absurdly overpowered in classic.Some classes just have dogshit capstones, especially Rogue.
I will play druid because when we get the set bonus that grants Efflorescence it's gonna be kino
>>586193613
>>586193521It's just a zero-sum mentality of "if they're using money on THIS game, then they won't be spending it on MY game!"
Your druids are brokenscatteredHUNTED DEFEATEDBy Aggrend...
>they put Divine Intellect into Prot treeGenuinely unforgivable change.
Sex with Satyrs!
Can they just admit they have no fucking clue what they're doing at this point?
What the fuck is aggrends problem?
>>586193719It's almost as if they refused to let us play with capstones in beta and now have no data on which ones are good or not.
>bear status: rapedThank you blizzard, I wasn't sure if I wanted to make a druid or a wowyer but now I know I should always stick to the old reliable.
Strange change on Warlock's WrackIt's a useless talent and somehow it got a nerf through the talent? Everything about affliction after the dot crit talent is awful
>>586193812How come the hairy legs don't bother me but the hairy arms are disgusting?
...was Rogue seriously not changed at all?
>>586193858i genuinely don't know why they couldn't give us level 40 premades to try stuff with and actually test shit.whoever their internal testers are lvl 30+ are literally retarded.
>>586193812Why this bitch got the finglonger
>>586193857He's nuclearHe's wild
>>586193462Yeah, that's a big one. Almost wonder if that was more of a factor than gutting a 3 minute burst damage window.>>586193574I'll probably stick to it unless Enhance gets something cool. If they're actually pruning a lot of the WOTLK stuff that means Maelstrom weapon might get hit. Would mean a chance for something that makes a bit more sense for a 2h incarnation of the spec.
>>586193090bots snipe names to sell
>>586193858shadowform is good
>>586193127It could be, but at 15 seconds a pop; it's not at all, back in beta when it had a 1 second IC, Forsaken would've been the only race worth playing on Horde.
>>586193954top dps single target non movement fightstrust the plan
Will Alexensual play wow forever? This matters a lot
>>586193954There are probably changes for all the classes, it's just getting rolled out in batches. HOPE roguebro!
DING
>>586193850no no you see switching furor (first row of resto) and heart of wild (first row of feral) places was *really* important. :)))))))))))
>>586193748POST IT COWARD
>>586194061I can almost taste it...
retards acting like they know what's good when no one has seen or played level 60 content
>>586194060>>586194043I mean at the end of the day, Forever is a live service game, it's not this time capsule to preserve the balance of the time that Classic was. They can buff Rogue whenever the fuck they feel like
>>586194127but I have played it
>>586193719It's not so much about needing it. Technically you don't need any talent. But capstone talents are supposed to be special, they're supposed to invoke that feeling of reaching ultimate power in your spec. Now though a lot of capstones seem so underwhelming that people are just straight up not getting them, and don't get me wrong there's some positives to not having the capstones be crazy strong, those positives being you won't feel inclined to HAVE to get them, but they shouldn't feel bad to get.Wrack is bad, people don't even know where it would fit into the rotation even if you did get it and now it's been nerfed. Very strange stuff.
>>586194127Yes, some of us have actually played the game unlike you or blizzard devs.
>>586193857Heard his local Krispy Kreme is shutting down
>>586192859>saves arms by adding powerful 2h weapons to the game for ret that arms will be able to also usebased fatfuck
>>586194061It's seriously launching at 7pm? Meaning the login servers won't be working until at least 9pm?
>>586192782looks fuckin sick bro, i love that art and that modded undead dude
>>586193954Imagine playing anything but Mage or Paladin in WoW Forever. You're basically just an NPC lmao like drop the totem and give me a quest bro lmao
>>586193960so she can flip you off better
>>586194061only 5 more days until we get to sit and look at the log in screen for 3 hours
>>586194230it's launching at midnight for yuropeans in the middle of the week too
>>586194249Sorry bro, I'm not here to bring utility
>>586194127over half the content at 60 is from vanilla originally what do you mean
>>586194161NoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWhatever is set by Nov4th will be how the game is… FOREVER!!!!
>>586194127>2+2 is 4>20+20 will not be 40
So binding heal is baseline now and you got a ghetto binding heal in flash of light with the talent instead? The changes to holy paladin makes it so you can invest more points but is it much better?
>>586194127We have over 20 years of knowledge about this game. We can quite easily tell which classes/specs/spells etc will be good or not at 60 by just looking at the numbers.
I am still going sexelf mage
>fatrend randomly felting pirate in the new videolmao do you think fatrend is a detractor? he worked in QA at the same time as pirate, he probably knows so much deep lore about him
Where is this Wrack nerf info coming from?
>>586193812what does satyr vag feel like?
>>586194263at least this time they have hidden the long queues behind a unique new disconnect system that weirdly streamers won't have to interact with
>>586194061>people took off work to play a game that releases after work Blizzdrones truly are the most retarded consoomers
Berserk is gone 《剑风传奇》已成往事。the mandate of heaven is lost 阿格伦德(Aggrend)将在下一次轮回中遭受业报。Millions must bite ferociously. 把我的“手动人群重击者”给我。
>>586193521>I don't understand why so many retail players bother bitching about ForeverImagine being some walled hag and a new, hot bitch just started at your company. Guess who's going to get all of the attention and eventually replace your useless, ugly, cunt arse.
>Nerf every other class>Buff mages>Again>and again>and again>and againGetting real tired of this shit.
>>586194362The only raid thats the same as far as we know is Onyxia, people have posted pictures of nu-MC that leaked, looks like basically a cataclysmized version of MC.
>>586194427none has gotten past the crust yet
>>586194395The difference is unlike Classic which is this snapshot of 1.12 balance, Forever can just...change the numbers if they don't like the place they're in.
>>586194451FUCK
>>586194389we think its not baseline, probably just a remnant, it makes no sense to have that with the flash heal self heal, but either way its cool with me
>>586194427like a vice and barbed wire
>Paladins have to create an oath with the tank to heal goodWhy are paladins so gay?
>>586194406https://www.youtube.com/shorts/62R_4mST0BU
>>586194430I just realized they did that specifically so the rest of us don't see streamers just jumping the queues. They can have plausible deniability now if everyone is getting in based on luck.
Hpal are pvp gods.>100% hp absorb for free
>>586194518wonder what Ony will drop other than her fat bagssurely not t2 helms when t1 isn't even coming out for now
I finally decided on my naming convention.Im going to use <my favorite rp name> + <name somewhat related to the role of the character>.I will raise an army of the same named retard, all nelfs ofc.
>>586194604Damn, that's going for some reason DnD Paladin shit. Are they also going to make it so you become an Oathbreaker if you're a Paladin that does bad things?
>>586192757
>>586194518>onyxia is still a 40 man raidholy brack moment
>>586194061going to be a rough launch week just like in the good old timespic me after hitting 60
>no rogue changesLMAO
Druidsisters...
>>586194521Every fucking version of WoW we know what will be good at endgame. Every new retail patch or xpac people can tell what is going to be best before it's released.
>>586191051>>586191051please post more like this
>>586194624Are you still going Druid??
Do you think I'd get banned if I made a gnome called Hairless Slit?
>>586194807that's because of ptr you dumb faggotwe have none of that for forever
>>586194682This is the way. Same first name across all characters so people recognize you. People who got meme names are going to feel retarded after a while
>>586194521>just play a mess of a class and hope the fat retard pulls a functional balance patch out of his ass
>>586194775Cast time on Wild Growth is such fucking bullshit. I was so excited to roll Resto and now I have to be a Paladin
>>586194756as a shaman/rogue
>>586194604>5 minute durationYou ever just see something and know it's going to get changed? I know they play their own game; they must, but sometimes I really wonder.
>>586194775As a Balance druid, this makes my talent points super comfy now that I don't have to waste 5 points on the Feral tree.
>fatggrend's pet class always comes out on topi kneel...
>>586194775>berserk removedOH NON NON NON NODRUIDBROS?!??!?!?
>>586194940I mean that's what we did in actual vanilla if you were dead-set on a specific class
>>586194851
Holy shit Prot Paladin sounds so fucking kino now thanks Faggrend.Also Twist of Light dead, kill streamers.
Honest, deranged, unhinged thoughts on the new Ret captstone?
>>586194775>berserk removedis it just gone completely or did they give it to any spec for free
Forever isn't even out yet and buyer's remorse is already setting in, it seems.Oh yeah, this will be a stinker of hilarious proportions.
>>586194856I'm looking at the patch notes right now and it looks like they completely ruined druid lmao. Glad I decided on Shaman instead. I already changed my name reserve to a shaman.
Honestly I feel vindicated in my original opinion that Classic+ should have been Vanilla with buffs for the weaker classes/specs only. When you do shit like add Ice Lance to the game it will sting so much more when they remove or fundamentally change what they are. Druid has now just lost all hype for me, and I'll be playing something else unless this comes out as a hoax or some shit.
Arcanite Reaper will still be pre-raid BiS for Rets right?
>>586195106Isn't this just seal twistx3?
>>586195108gone.also no *new* capstone, 2 earlier talents just got pushed down to bottom
>>586195108gone
>>586194940Welcome to actual WoW, anon. You've played classic so long you've forgotten what it's like for your class to be shit for an expansion.
>>586195003dont worry bro you got a token slot for that raidwide 3% crit
holy pala status?
>>586195139>SHAMAN
>>586194775gift of the earthmother gone? that was the only reason I was considering resto druid as my healer alt
>>586195038guh thanks
lets be honest druids desperately needed nerfing and they should nerf it even more
>>586195106Basically you'll only need swap to Righteousness for one attack to triple proc SoC, then back. Seems fine.
>>586194775Druid tank is DEAD
>>586194960Blizzard keep having to learn from the same mistakes over and over again because they dont seem to learn any lessons and need to be browbeaten to accept they were wrong.
>>586195139>Shaman
>>586193857Aggrend works hard for the money, he agrees to continue a podcast being hosted by an australian faggot simply because he respected the wow players and wanted to give them an insight into the mindsets and approaches of the developers.Immediately, the playerbase acts like a bunch of redditors blogposting about how retarded he and the developers are and that tweaking spells by as little as 1% is obscenely broken and ruining the game that hasn't even fucking come out yet, let alone been played by anyone over level 30.He should spend the next podcast calling reddit a bunch of NIGGERS then give orcs a racial called AIDS that deals 1% their total hp every 10 seconds permanently
>>586195286its not a problem in expansions because the leveling is trivial but grinding to 60 only to be shit will feel far worsei play hunter in vanilla so my class is always shit
>>586195379time to update that image with a resto druid
>>586195449
>tfw no cute ne transwife.
>>586195391I don't care about ele shaman, I just want to stormstrike ppl in pvp and cast chain heal in raid
I think it's time we got rid of aggrend and put someone else in charge. Guy is a fucking mess.Buffing the shit out of his pet class whilst nerfing everything else (except mage which his streamer friends told him he had to do)Forever is a joke.Druids gutted. Shamans gutted.Rogues... unfucking touched for the most part, which is in a way even worse because it's so damn boring, do soemthing with them ffs.Paladins and mages buffed endlessly
>>586194775
HABBENINGNEW WOW OFFICIAL DISCORD!!!!!!PREPARE YOUR NITRO SUBS SISTER
>>586195448but they replaced it with.... 200 overhealing at the end of a rejuv!!!
5 more days sisters im so hypedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VskR4t3CR_0
>>586195461today i will remind them
>>586195527getting horny is my fav part of playing wow these days
Why don't all these bitches trying to get onto the PvP server as horde just roll pve?
It makes sense they aren't touching ele or balance because those classes issues are more to do with the spell power tuning for than anything else. I guess removing lava burst would be a start at least.
>>586195538Why don't you play Paladin instead?
>Mage and Paladin, the strongest classes, get buffs every two days>Shaman and Rogue, the worst classes by a factor of almost 2x, not touched since beta release What with all new content going to Alliance and Disney retail elves, it's pretty clear these devs don't give a fuck about anything except what they personally like.
>>586195627I'd rather they nerf its healing than make it a 3 second cast
>>586195228>>586195246honestly bear is so strong that its not the end of the world. they will still threat mog the shit out of the other tanks
>>586195705paladins are cringe
>>586194871it bothers me that they're all the same hair style
>>586195715>it's pretty clear these devs don't give a fuck about anything except what they personally like.that has been WoW for the past twenty years.
>>586195106>attack three times with Seal of Command active>activate Righteousness>possibly proc Seal of Command three times in one attack>also very possibly do literally nothing for 4 attacksis that what it means?
>>586195715the fuck are you talking aboutshaman has been changed like 2 or 3 times
They need to hit Riptide with the nerf bat next
Skyborne made by Reddit.
>>586195763you are cringe, avatroon
>>586194775heckin le cast time on le powerful aoe heal in classic!?
>>586194682I'm going to make an obscure reference to a famous real world person that has something to do with my character
>>586195501>1% their total hp every 10 seconds permanentlyReminded me of the paladin mana slurp glitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-2FGFjBA4
>>586195761they did it because paladin is supposed to be the aoe tank and bear having aoe mangle was beyond retarded
I can fuck with Lacerate being a talent and present earlierbecause it discourages Cat Form players from double dipping.But nothing substantial like Berserk as a captstone is a foul.Bloom kind of sucks when Resto probably wants to invest into Nature's Splendor.That's just fewer Bloom pops.Will it still pop on recast? A little burst as a treat? I could fuck with that.
but what if i dont want to play a paladin or a mage in forever?
>>586195430human paladin pov
>>586195818Looks like some wildstar star rejected race.
>>586195678>they aren't touching balancewhat do you mean? they just took balance out back and shot it by making its aura utterly redundant. who the fuck would bring a moonkin instead of a mage now lmao.
>>586187759i made 13 somehow, some that were probably only level 1 that I ESCd the intro on cause i dont remember doing that many. since I was in the 91st percentile what's the math on that?
Claude, make a permanent debuff that is always active on druids and can't be dispelled and persists through death called "The Raped" and have it constantly emit green fart clouds and make druids shout "I VOTED FOR KAMALA AND I LOST!", "ASMONGOLD OWNS ME!", "MY NEOVAGINA BURNS!", etc. Also have it reduce movement speed by 10% and give it this icon. Commit to master.
>>586195818not blue enough
>Ret get ANOTHER busted rework>Also get instant cast turn undead, that also work on demonaggrend has gone insane
>>586195675That is a nice moonie
>>586195678Having Lava Burst in the game at all means they have no clue what to do with Ele shaman. Nobody wants lava burst slop for vanilla Ele. They're probably terrified to do anything to the spec because it will rape everyone in PVP if they make it actually good
>>586195958i cant believe they actually made wildgrowth worse than a baseline priest spell. who the fuck is going to play resto now.
>>586195818its... fine? Hair seems a little extra
>>586194775I guess blizzard is worried there may be too many tanks and healers.
>Wild Growth cast time>Negative synergy with talents boosting Rejuv duration but also one healing on expiration>the awesome GCD talent was just completely nukedThese niggers have lost their fucking minds
>>586196149retard, that's the only good druid change in the entire list
Doomdruids, calm yourselves and remember: Aggrend already said that he name-reserved his forsaken pally and skelf druid. Just have faith that he's setting the foundation for some disgusting, paladin-tier bullshit to come. Let the fatman cook.
my nelfie just tooted :3
You know what is fascinating? Every fucking Shaman I have ever seen seems to HATE Lava Burst.It's rather amusing.What would you want to see instead of it?
RP RulesetHumanFemalePonytailRedheadPaladinHolyEnchanting/Engineering
>Twist of Light dead in a ditch>"Shockadin" dead, but 21/30 builds even better than before because the hit talent is accessible much easierI'M SORRY I DOUBTED YOU AGGREND I'LL NEVER CALL YOU FAT AGAIN
>>586196306did they add appropriate amount of spell power scaling for a 3 second cast and leave the other base values completely unchanged? Because that's the only way this could possibly be a good change.
>>586196073>Ele, a meme spec, deleting one clothie in BG every 3 minutesBAD>Mage, undisputed king of BGs, relentlessly buffed every 48 hoursGOODIf you have any more questions feel free to ask. I'm a Forever dev.
am i the only one that saw wild growth was instant cast and went "what the fuck"? how did that even happen in the first place
>>586196347Literally Lava Burst, but Lightning instead, and have Bolt, Chain, and Burst tied together with talents.
4chan leaker can you get them to make like any fucking changes to rogue instead of killing berserkthank you
>>586196347import legion shaman
>>586196390Put on the robe and be my pet healerT. Human War
>He didn't trust AggrendPaladin bros... we're fucking back
the absolute state of rogues
>>586196023>devs class is the best classeverytime
doomsissies our retort?
>>586196347I want the SoD Shaman that raped everything with Lightning Shield.
>>586196449>lightning>i want to get nature locked when i cast lava burstyeah that's totally betterhow about change it to something ice themed so it isn't just a complete nerf. Maybe throw glacier.
>>586196413considering spell power scales off of cast time, obviously yes. Wild growth is frontloaded anyway, it will still be a good group heal. The real disaster is getting rid of GCD talent and ruining swiftmend.
Resto druid's only saving grace was its healing output.
>>586196538>it's perfect, nothing needs to be changed>but our damage is shit and everyone hates the Assassination capstone talent and would rather have Enve->EVEYTHING IS PERFECT
>>586194775 >>586195106Where are these even from (the full list of changes)? Datamined or
>>586196347uncucked elemental masterythat burst was the most fun you could have in any videogame
Holy fugg kek
>>586196564>pvpThis is why this general is so shit lmao. People are trying to have actual discussions and pvp third world brownoids keep interrupting with their minigame babble.
Shadow Word: Death: Its backlash deals 30% of your maximum health instead of 10%LMAO WTF AHAHAHAHA
>>586196551aw shiet negro fear immunity for all druid speccs?
>>586196538it's legitimately insane
>>586196347They should give ele an instacast ability where you conjure a massive rock at the enemy, knocking them back, give it a medium sized cooldown.
>Free yourself from tyranny of patchnotes, buffs and nerfs.>The only permanent thing is impermanence.
>>586196720The fuck is this? This is a whole new class they patched in
>>586192658Be glad it didn't happen post-launch
>>586196749lmao go back to retail cuck
holy pala also got a 6% crit from conviction since it affects all spells now
>>586196749k
watched pirate software roach out in dire maul again and I forgot that he has a addon to set his health display to 1hp permanently, how much of a fucking retard do you have to be to do thatit's not even remotely funny either, just pure reddit
>>586196908
>>586196720>all of this, five days before launchTHEY ARE RUSHING AND PANICKING
>>586196795Haha, I am the strongest healer cla-ACK
>>586196720Aggrend, I kneel
>>586196995I'm not sure how hard it is to find, but there's additional context where that were their second run of dire maul north. In the previous run pirate told them do some retarded shit, accidentally aggroed a bunch of enemies, and they had to run away (and all lived).
Can't believe the 15 DPM is real
he head be gone
>>586196720I'm sure there's no bias happening here.
>>586196720what the fuck
>>586196995What do you want me to do?
>>586196551Fake and not on the site
big fan of the winter's chill change. cone of cold is going to be a massive fucking nuke now if you play the class right. Good mages can hold onto it and be rewarded, shit mages will have to use it early and often to kite and miss out. SKILL EXPRESSION! THANK YOU BLIZZARD!
>>586196995did u see them make fun of him on the latest azeroth national geo joke video today. it was pretty funny lol he worked at blizzard btw
>>586197089i fully expect them so keep changing the classes every week for months to come
>>586196551this is fake. you can't not doom. i forbid it,
Look I get some numerical changes here and there. But why are these retards COMPLETELY changing a bunch of classes right now?
>paladins can now perma CC warlock petsholy fuck its over for warlocks. no more sacrifice, seduce and spell lock whenever you want
>>586196720>completely revamping the entire class before launchincredibly based, I hope they do this for every single class
>>586197171brainless but happy
>>586196720>Paladin Healers get out healed by Shadow Priests and Mage's Amplify MagicThank fucking Aggrend.
Uh... retsissies? How are we doing......
Heh... I'm still going Shaman. Soon they'll get massive buffs just like Pally and Mage get every day. And an Ele rework... Haha... Everyone will be jealous of me that I stuck with it and get to reap the rewards h-heh...
>no talent for paladins that makes them not fuck up blessings on a regular basisprobably the most important thing the class needs desu
I miss when lightning bolt could be cast while moving
Im retarded, so pala tanks are good now or nay?
>>586197171his skull, it...it come off yeah
does anyone know if improved stormstrike and mindfullness stack? and if so how. is it multiplicatively or additively.
shadow priest bros....
>>586197361are you the same stupid fucking retard who said paladins and other classes would shit on warlock in the beta?holy lmaostart the next copeyou're not doing anything to a warlock with 50% DR and 6000 life
that field when you go to the auction house and upgrade everythingthat field when that field no longer exists because that field when fatgrend ruined statsused to be a good field. now it's that field when fatgrend drops something and has to bend over to pick it up.
>>586196720why can't rogue get changes like this?
>>586192782TOO BAD YOU CANT TURN THE BONES OFF IN FOREVER LMAO, YOU HAVE TO BE A BONY BOI
>>586196720salv being removed means all tanks across the board should get +33% increase to threat like how paladin did. meaning we haven't see all changes yet and they're most likely slowly rolling them out.
>>586197295Image got me thinking... do you think blizzard should add more body types for like teenage versions of races or would that just create pedo alligations. I mean, they WONT, but still
>>586197463>meta trannies all reroll elem and take your spot anyway
>>586197501a little better but still not nearly as strong defensively as Warrior
the shitskin on twitch is seething because Aggrend killed his favorite play style kek
say it with meR E T A I LETAILM I N U SINUS
Weak. You're all weak, pissing and shitting yourself over your changes.I'm staying Rogue no matter what, you cannot weaken my resolve Blizz.
>>586197596All I needed to know, thanks bwo. My prot funds are safu.
>>586197509Its additive and you can just get one point in improved storm strike since its 50% on 15 seconds which means you'll get to roll the dice two more times so the 100% chance at two points is over kill.
>>586197640Nobody asked, Lil Gup. *dots you*
>>586197616no
>>586197613who? esfat? how do people watch that guy, he just sits there strung out on adderall getting carried in 3v3 arena while being completely clueless the entire time. it's so weird
warlock discord is shitting their pants lmao>>586197557you know a paladin has to be killed 3 times right? now we do more damage, can fear your pet, your fear lasts 30% less, and we got a 6s immunity to silence
>>586197354This is my theory:>small dev team working on Forever as a side project>it gets announced, hype skyrockets, the beta goes nuclear with insane numbers, largest blizzard beta ever>alarms start ringing in the corpo suits office>they see potential golden goose money printer >they divert half of retail's tranny dev team on to the Forever team>this would explain why the latest retail patch is a buggy disaster >now the retail devs are making a muck of everything on Forever This is exactly something that Microsoft Activision Blizzard Entertainment would do. You know I'm right.
>>586192843Priest winning bigly. Talent made base spell and replaced by OP extra 50% self heal on Flash Heal
>>586197640Wakfu just wasn't the same post-Nox
>>586197787shopped
>>586197787C O R M AORMAV I L L A R DILLARD
Dwarf Warrior
>>586197640as a non-rogue, i don't get the appeal of rogues. you have all of these magical and mystical classes, and classes that can literally dual wield 2h swords and swing them around like a helicopter dick. you can have a pet companion that sticks with you forever, you can mind control niggas and throw them off the cliff to their deaths, you can turn into a catdog and all sorts of other thingsbut no. you play the guy that stabs people.
>>586197509Seems to be additive and now get the driftwood icon as well and you have 108% lmao>>586197746Yo that's smart anon. Though I may still put the point in because not capping talents feels bad
>>586197909Yes
>>586197852Wasn't flash heal pretty bad though? I guess this talent would probably make it worth pressing but idk about OP.
Well I guess after today's change I'll main a holy paladin after all. I was kinda stupid to think Aggrend would let them be weak
>>586198012>artoria
dont care still rolling druid
>druids thought they could beat a warlock/priest in forever
>>586197956>108% mana regen whilst castingDoes that mean you regen more whilst casting?
>>586197886made for big green dick
>>586197909it's all about control and finesse. most classes are just unga bunga.
>>586197909it's so we can make funny catchphrases like Sap n Tap and Rogues Do It From Behind
>>586197886NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLS DON'T SIT ON MY FACE AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! SAVE ME AGGREND!
>>586197909rogues can turn invisible and that is all the power you need
>>586197501If they aren't then Aggrend will sure as fuck make them good. It's being a bear tank you need to worry about.
>>586197904>KARAZ ANKOR
I came to Whitemane getting fucked by a bunch of orcs…I’m sorry bros
It feels absolutely delicious seeing all the fotm whores freak out.lol. lmao even.
>>586196908i'm going night elf because they make my pp hard and druid because i like hots
>>586198115unless your skin is green OR she just got filled with a gallon of hiv positive orc ball sewage, she isn't going to do that. Don't worry.
So blizzard doesn't want people rolling druids?
>>586196073>Ele, you can throw a lava ball! If the target is on fire it deals 20% more damage!>Mage, you can throw an ice lance! If the target is frozen it deals 300% more damage!On all account it's balanced
where are you diddybloods reading the new patch that everyone is having a melty over?
>>586197840>>small dev team working on Forever as a side project>it gets announced, hype skyrockets, the beta goes nuclear with insane numbers, largest blizzard beta ever>alarms start ringing in the corpo suits office>they see potential golden goose money printer>they divert half of retail's tranny dev team on to the Forever teamThis is all true.>>this would explain why the latest retail patch is a buggy disaster>now the retail devs are making a muck of everything on ForeverThis part is not. First of all retail has been shit for a long time and their patches have been buggy disasters for a long time, forever is unrelated to retail being shit and buggy.Second, not only is it too early and soon for the retail devs to have any kind of impact, but they're not the ones making class changes like this..The retail devs that all got pushed to forever due to hype are just doing filler fluff shit like making armor and quests.
>>586198128so can a druid, but you also have the right to bear arms.
>>586198012ew toilet model
>>586197501I was doing a ton of tanking in beta and it felt good even then, now it seems even better. these changes mostly affect end game though. making it easier to hit crush immunity and some more damage reduction. interesting they removed the stamina increase though. prot pals will have the smallest health pool of tanks.
Ugh, Paladin looks like annoying assI'll probably go druid until that sorts itself out
>>586198169>wanting to play a certain class before the game even launches means you're a fotm whore
>>586198093We'll have to see. It would be really funny but maybe they cap it at 100%.I could see them capping it since then you have a reason to use other relics than the driftwood icon. The others don't look that good
looks like I was right to be concerned
does a holy paladin or holy priest farm better when dual speced to dps out in the world
>>586197909the lack of high fantasy is the appeal.
>>586198283changing the class depending on the patch notes does. bitch.
>druid completely and utterly rapedSo, what now? Do we all just become paladins now?
>>586196908>The only permanent thing is impermanence.and rogues
>>586197840Why wouldnt that happen? Thats what ive been trying to tell you big dumb dumbs. Blizzard that makes Fagever is the same Blizzard that makes Retail, they will move staff around especially when theres a fomo cash grab in the cards.
FRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZAAAAAN
>>586197909they stab fast. I like fast
>>586197840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLmo2iVyJ1Mformer club penguin (actually was kek) reviews the tickets in the game engine and confirms work started as early as late 2024. bulk of the early work seems to have been started summer of 2025. good video.
>>586195761>naturalist goes from 10 talent points for 5% damage to 5 talent points for 10% damagehonestly bears are stronger outside of berserk now
>Esfat crying over the changesThat's how you know Paladin has it good
>Holy Paladin is an actual healer now, pure shockadin dead>Twist of Light replaced with a much less shitty version>Can still play 21/30 Holy Shock if you don't like it and it got a lot better>Prot getting a cool new capstone that lets them smack shit with their shieldPaladins wonnered hugely
>>586197909I think it’s cool. Im a human rogue and i main sub. I like being the guy who isn’t good at anything but sneaking aroundI laugh when I kill something and ims till leveling my dagger weapon skill because I just don’t use it enough I like being the unremarkable guy who still gets through.
>>586198169I just wanted to be allowed to raid this time...
>>586198264druids can do everything but as a tradeoff people will think you fuck dogs when you play druidand rogues are just failed schoolshooters
>>586198453how is a paladin main like him such a fucking retard when it comes to paladins and the worst thing to happen to paladins ever?
I'm playing warlock and I'm reporting any of you dipshits the cold call me for a summon
>>586198369what if all the patch notes are just removing all the fun stuff from the class? Because that's what happened lol
where does resto druid even fit into a raid now? it just doesnt right. raid will be chain healed before i can even get a wild growth off
>>586198607will you have two tauren summoning goons too? if so based
>>586198283It does if it means changes in a game mode where literally anyone can beat anyone if theyre just good is retarded yes you stupid niggerI don't understand why you mother fuckers whine SO MUCH about this version of the game where you can have the dumbest NIGGERS in the world aka all of you faggots and still kill "the hardest" content in the game in 1 day you flaming homosEven pvp is just mostly garbage because youre just dogshit and can't outplay someone when theres only 2-3 spells everyone hasFuck off and pick what you like nigger
Chuds won. The liberal vegan green party mentally ill tree fucking class got put on its knees where it belongs. Now buff Paladin (based crusader) and Hunter (based self-sufficiency and Kaczynski-pilled) more, give them the ability to smite and shoot all leftist-coded classes (Shamans, Druids, Warlocks, Rogues) for 1000% of attack or spell power (whichever is higher) instant cast, 65 yard range.
>>586198453>Actually watch his stream for 2 seconds cause of this post>He's crying about no Seal TwistingThank you anon, this really brightened my day.
>>586198370all in on shamanwe will get an even bigger changelog 2 days before launch
>>586198370you know they're just going to continue buffing and nerfing specs for the entirety of Forever right? and that it's pointless to chase what looks strong? surely you can't be that dumb?
every raid should have a variant of kharazan chess
r-rogue changes?
>>586198590he doesn't want them or anyone over powered, he wants more classic and less +
>>586198685lmao get fucked shaman chads win again
>>586198372lmao
So is shockadin good or what? The gearing would probably be fucking aids
>>586198731No one wants to play a dwarf sorry
>>586198625
>>586197909When I win as a rogue it makes me feel like I've outsmarted my enemy
>>586198685pre cast
Still deciding between shaman and druid as a healerDid they buff druids enough for them to no longer be the shitlords amongst healers? I know they didn't nerf wf totems or chain heal so shamans will probably still be goated
I do not understand these dev changing shit at the last minute
Lmao what the fuck even is feral now>4 second reduction as final talent OR heroic strike
Can I just go all MP5 and spirit gear as a healer and just never run out of mana? Or is stuff like that just not possible?
>>586198590His entire schtick is getting bis gear funneled by his guild and reckbombing fresh 60s in Strath gear or getting carried in TBC arena. He's not a good player as evidenced by him not making it to 60 in Onlyfangs despite multiple first time WoW Classic players making it first or second try.
>>586198703I like resto druid when swiftmend doesn't delete your hotsI don't like resto druid when swiftmend deletes your hotsIt's extremely unfunso now that they made this unfun change, I am picking a class that will be more funwhy are you too stupid to understand that?
>>586198932its a hybrid tax. i don't see the problem
>>586197909>literally dual wield 2h swords and swing them around like a helicopter dick
>>586198932one is for cat one is for bear. they're not letting you go giga hybrid.
>>586198862>alliance
>>586198745>just play dead spec bro I'm sure they'll buff it eventually brono. already fell for that cope in SoD.
>>586198932you're not supposed to play feral, it's just a leveling specyou have to play resto
>>586198001Flash heal is the go to heal for pvp, the pvp gloves gives reduced pushback for flash heal combined with the reduced pushback from talents you dont get any pushback on flash heal.This is massive for pvp
Aggrend is my rapist and he told me that Rogues will be getting Cloak of Shadows in phase 2 maybe
>>586198252It's diddyblud, goofy ahh unc
>>586198868Give me GCD talent
>>586199082but it still comes with the downside of rolling holy instead of disc for pvp
>>586196908i haven't read a patch note in more than a decade
>>586198959HEY NIGGER IM SAYING YOUR A FAGGOT IN GENERAL TO NOT JUST PLAYING SOMETHING YOU FIND OVERALL FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT BROWN MOTHER FUCKERLEARN TO SPELL NIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A TRUE NIGGER LOVES A CLASS BECAUSE OF THE SPELLS IT HAS, NOT WHAT THE SPELLS DOES TO EACH OTHERMEXICAN FUCKING SPIC
>>586198938It's more efficient to go healing power
Please note that the official <wowfg> guild will have a foreskin check for every member. Kiked dicks will not be permitted within the guild
Can't wait to blockmaxx on my woror
>>586199082>pvp>>586196749
Guys calm down, the changes aren't official yet. For all we know, they might be planned for post launch content 4 months from now.
This is me and i play wow, dont mess with me
>>586198590paladins arent known for their intelligence. otherwise they wouldnt need add ons just to buff people
still going warrior
It's a shame because I know Shieldsworn is gonna be busted; and when I finally get to play with my new toy, Blizz is gonna smash it into smithereens and replace it with something else.
>>586198918the game will have the same problems as sod which is funny since sod should have been the testing grounds for this gamethe game cant be balanced or polished if they change this much this late so they will have to keep chaning things week after week upsetting more and more people leading to a slow death of the game
>>586199230IT WASNT MY CHOICE I HAVE NO JEWISH BLOOD MY PARENTS WERE JUST THE RAPED PLEASE DONT DO THIS TO ME
>>586197852>trainers teach rank 1 at level 25what other spells do you learn at odd levels like that?
>>586199205schizo having a melty again
>>586199013can't wait for paladins to be hit with the tax OH WAIT>>586199065I'm all in favor of specializing to dps or tank but this just fucks over both disproportionally. feral bite is NOT good enough just justify it's position at bottom, it used to be early to mid talent for reason.Also loosing fear immunity AND damage bust for 4s is parody tier.
>>586199353palas being the premier caster boss tank is nice. everyone has their niche.
>>586199353>He doesn't trust the Aggrend master plan
Let’s be real rogue is one of the least interesting most braindead classes, you just press slice and dice and choose a finisher and repeat endlessly. No real mechanics just poison poison bleed slice dice
>>586199205
>>586199369game attracted too much attention, and they moved a bunch of retail troon devs onto the team to support it, and they're killing the game
>>586199217Yeah but I dont like playing around mana at all.Its truly a terrible feelingWill mana feel miserable as fuck to play if I don't atleast have SOME mp5?
>>586199065the whole point of feral is letting you do tank or dps things without respeccing
>>586199286or whatOR WHAT BITCH WATCHU GONNA DO?PUNCH ME THROUGH THE SCREEN????
>>586192782Nice. Good job.
Not needing to play optimally is literally a point of their advertising for this game. You useless niggers just never get it because you have your empty heads so far up parasocial asses, tierlists and patch notes you miss all of it. Quite pathetic.
>>586198932>splitting feral into bear and catdogshit retail change it was great that you had one specc the fuck are they doing
where's the guy saying that some random shitskin on twitch influenced how the devs developed classes now?
>>586199065The cat one sucks ass.
>>586198956>sunglitters of all people made level 60 in wow hardcore
>>586199592I WILL FUCK MY CAT IF YOU DONT APOLOGIZE RIGHT THIS SECOND
>>586199509Don't play a healer then. Mana management is the entire game.
>>586199535As a fella that prefers Bear tanking, I don't want Cat Form taking my niche.
>>586196995>>586197325>>586197268>>586197125My whole ass. Your mouth. Now.
>>586199509>Yeah but I dont like playing around mana at all.Then go play MoP or Retail. But it'll feel better because there isn't the tick system anymore and all the mana users get increased regen while casting somewhere too.
>>586199272your raid is over you can go offline for the week
is it just me or has the client had like 4 updates in the past 24 hours
>>586198685Team mascot (waiting outside the raid entrance)
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
The last time I joined a 4chan guild like 80% of the players were a healing class and couldnt even get a group together because everyone wanted to heal.
>>586199716its not taking anything. you're supposed to have the ability to do both things with one spec and even as a primary tank there is value in being able to swap to dps on the fly and vise versa. i shouldnt have to explain this
>>586199883All bottom meetup, of course
how do modern retail players even play it when it has been fortnitified
Do male nelfs look cool as priests? Trying to decide on alliance priest race. It's that or male human and human is a bit boring.
>>586199801they are panicking for surethey have a good thing going and they dont want to fumble it again
>>586199624Agreed, brother.
>>586199996What if I'm a shy tank, am I allowed?
There must be people who already reserved Maldavius Figtree. I never tried.
>>586199883>joins 4chan guild>surprised when its full of sissies who want to ERP with big manly tanks
feralkeks
>>586199883Healing is for high IQ White people. DPS is for brown people like huntards who fuck everything up.
How are rogues looking bros? think they'll do well in pve?
i will level my humie in the nelfie zones so i can get a tiger mountie asap
>>586200008>Do male nelfs look co-No.
>>586195501>He should give orcs a racial called AIDS that deals 1% of their total hp every 10 seconds permanentlyI'm on board but give this racial to smurf elves.>>586194871Cute gnomes, but maybe Hairless Crit could work instead of slit. Then again redditors and blizzdrone manchildren from retail hate fun.
>>586200086>Healing is for high IQ White peopleThats why women gravitate towards healing?
>>586200008altrobe.com
>>586198802Stop avatarfagging
>>586200169>womenanon....
esfand status?
>>586200169and they suck at it. notice how all the good ones are men
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>>586200094lol
>>586199205Anon balance changes that completely change a class can make it not fun. Would warrior be fun if it had cast times suddenly?
what are they going to call the next version of wow after they inevitably fuck this one up?
>>586200209hello bored im dad ahaha
>>586200209You are raped
>>586193491Pretty hot for ai slop.
>>586200209I’ll bust up in this snitch
>>586200209Hi bored, I'm anon!
>Axel malding on his 'cord because resto druid got clapped with nerfs
>>586200086>Healing is for high IQ White peopleHealing is boring as fuck to do day in and day out.t. healer
>>586200264TBC forever
What cute thing did you do today?
still playing druid
>>586195139>Glad I decided on Shaman instead.good boy
How are the tanks looking bros? Is this prot pala change enough to move the needle? I feel like warriors still rape.
>>586200204brown
>>586200264Wow forever anniversary once they heed to Alex and his goon squad calling for fresh
>>586199962Nah.I'll play overworld on Bear.
>>586199380that has to be a mistake
>>586200269shut up pve dad gamer
>>586200370Warriors are designed for tanking. For everyone else its an afterthought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc
>>586200312he doesnt care about wow forever anymore
apparently they want to add a outdoor raid boss similar to everquest that takes several 40 man raids working together to take down.
Thank you Aggrend for buffing human spirit for my priest and buffing revenge for my warrior.But a little more is still doable right? You have a couple more days I believe in you!
Whos already caged up and in diapers as preparation for Nov 4th?
>>586200380I guess no one liked his seal twisting play style for paladin, huh
>>586200360why are you posting summer
>>586200370warriors are the tankiest and require the least amount of gear to function because of shield blockbears will have the highest threatpaladins will be the raid janitors because they can tank large trash packs
Were there any last minute changes to warrior?
>>586200574I dont get why they still refuse to let Charge be used in combat.
>>586200683get a trip already retard
>>586199962Don't bother anyone not willing to go cat<->bear as it is fit is dumber than a bag of bricks.>>586199439>>586199437Retail had to mcnuke blocking spells from retail (Warrior had it as a CD and paladin as a passive) because of "game knowledge issues" so you should be safe.They did McNuke is after 6? 10? years so of it being in the game.Remember paladin can't really reliably block stuff and blocking in vanilla is pretty fucking weak compared to retail's % based reduction.
>>586200589>caged>Not already orch'd and atrophied to the point where cages dont fit
>>586200695And shaman enhance tanking is pending in the future patch, don't forget
>>586200370Browns are probably the only actual raid tanks. Bears are based solely on tuning. Pinkies are still irrelevant.
>>586200683Kill yourself avatarfag
>Streamer specs nerfed to shitWarlock/Mage/Rogue chads, its our time now.
>>586199439I'm trying to... I've just... been hurt too much bro.
>>586200695>because they can tank large trash packsnot anymore LOL.Uncap consecrate, pussies.
>>586200754agrend will fuck it up. he just simply doesnt have the mental bandwidth to make it work
what class to pick if i want to be lusted after for raids and dungeons
>>586200703True. I like your thinking anon this needs to be changed asap
>>586200683trying to stop from just using ben images sorry if it upset you, it still kinda upsets me as well
>>586200683end your pathetic life
>>586200703Because that would be crazy op. They vaporize many classes in a couple seconds
>>586200883Resto shaman is the only choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t-DsGm0rlc
>>586198012penny put on SD models
>>586200754Aggrend said no.>>586200756Bears will be designated off tank in tank-swap bosses. But that's it.The tax of "btw the main tank might randomly fucking die" is too big for 99% of guilds to take.
>>586200883alliance resto shaman
>>586200857it is uncapped, it just has diminishing returns past 4(i think?) targets
I made all 3 healers (except druid). Priest got better, Shaman is still high on the list, Paladin is close to actually having competitive HPS but the oath lasting 5 minutes is a stupid oversight.Back to the drawing table on who to level first then.
>>586200936i am horde btw and i would never play dwarf
>>586200204lolcowhe was so bad on pservers he was laughed out of them with his guild before becoming a streamer
>Esfat crying because his epic seal twist playstyle is despised by 99.99% of players and it got removedToday might be a good day afterall
Why won't blizzard do the one thing that can kill RMT: remove trading and the profession limit?
>>586200642seal twisting only belongs in its designated containment zone (tbc)
>we now have gone from stable everyones happy to schizo daily major dev changes with no patch noteshmmmmmmm smells retail
>>586200932Warrior got Charge in combat in SoD and it literally didnt change anything. Epoch had Charge in combat and Warriors were still a free honor kill.
>>586196720I'm down for sweeping changes in the interim to fuck everyone's day upchaos candidate
no one cares what that shitskin leech says, kill yourself
>>586201013shaman warlock priest
>>586200981https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=20924/consecrationhttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=20924/consecrationHUh, huhu~
Faggots who come here to talk about streamers are worse than streamers themselves
>>586201181smells like a bitch. no wait, thats just (you)
The madmen are running the asylum.Somehow the entire classic+ dev team got taken over by idea guys running purely on basedfarming reddit and settling personal grudges with ecelebs in the class discords.
>>586201274gonna cry
>>586200883prot war
we need arenas so me and my friends can win trade and sell glad carries to dadgamers
Clitty status?
>>586201110Because bots pay their sub.
are we all getting watershield first, or going straight down enhance, or respeccing full enhance at 25, or respeccing full enhance at 31
>>586201378Kill yourself useless faggot, no one cares
>>586201051This is misinformation
>>586201013Priest/warlock/resto shaman/prot war
>>586201403>Welcome to the Horde, Pinky!
>wow vampire survivors>classic wow but an idle game>wow slay the spire>wc3 arenacome on vibecoders, give us wow l4d.
>>586201403LOCKED AND PULSING IN PROXIMITY TO HUGE THROBBING GREEN
>>586201462ye
>>586201110Why remove trading ? Wtf? That's like half the game.
>>586201507WoW Vermintide
I am once again hoping that lava burst gets REMOVED
>>586201462You're gonna get a rope to hang yourself avatarfag, a strong one too because it needs to support your weight.
>>586201184You're saying It doesnt matter if they can charge & get a 1 sec stun every 15 sec? When a warrior can drop you in like 3 sec of contact vs most classes....right
>>586201462Go full enhance, but get the INT talents and get some int on your gear along with str if you can.
>>586194775umm, what the fuck
>>586201507Which one is WC3 arena?
Is this a buff or a nerf?
why is the wowg tourist dumping porn?
>>586201507There is a WoW slay the spire????Where can I play
>>586201403no belf has an ass that fat
>>586201586>Lava burst gets removed>Absolutely nothing as a compensation
>>586201670It used to just be flat damage
>>586201507wake me up when there is a wow meet and fuck kingdom clone
>>586201462I'm going 4/5 tidal focus and then full enhance so that imp. ghost wolf is online when I hit 20.Maybe respec at 30. Spirit Weapons is kinda huge. Parry for solo and -threat for dungeons.
>>586201697https://thewowdb.com/spiresofazeroth/
>>586201670buff. revenges issue has always been it had poor scaling which is why they eventually made it do shit tons of damage in wotlk
>>586201692he has nothing else in his life but retail and he is too mentally ill to enjoy anything else
holy shit they buffed revenge even more, that shit is a fucking nuke, shield slam too
how did horde trick blizzard into thinking they would be underpopulated so much so they had to buff horde racials just before releasing early character creations?
>>586201507>>586201581what are we killing?murlocs? kobolds? naggas?
>druids insanely opgame ruined>druids brought in line GAME RUINED
>>586201764
>>586200472Usually when talents become baseline spells, the first rank is given at the earliest point the class could take the talent. That was level 25 for Binding Heal. What's weird is that they replaced the talent with an ability that provides a similar function.
>>586201605sometimes i wish i hadn't become so racist in the last decade or so, so that i could still fap to the images where she's with non-humans, like i did as a teenager and in my early 20's... that was some good shit for the day.
>>586201473sure bud, i guess you didn't play on elysium and listened to him begging and whining for loot every raid where he bottom dpsed
>>586201789getting shamantistic focus asap is better than +hit
>Rogue
is hugh jeffancawk taken?
PROT PALLY BUFFSREJOICE BROTHERS AND SISTERS
>>586201983NTA, but should I get the 5% crit or INT on the first row?
>>586201967yeah, why would I press flash heal over binding heal
>>586201879Quilboar (Razorfen dungeons), Scarlets (The Monastery), basically wherever you have a dungeon, you could fit in a Vermintide run. The open world is completely unnecessary. Half the posters in this thread should love it!
>Aspect of the Cheetah went from 2nd row to 3rd>Can only take the talent at level 20 and 21 instead of 15 and 16Hunterbros...
Holy paladin status? Is it good now or am I trolling my guild by rolling one still?
>Reddit seething at the changes>Esfat seething at the changes>Prot gets spellblockToday is a good day to be a Paladinfag
>the game is LITERALLY in beta but they will launch anyway which means you'll make a character and watch it get murdered by nerfsyeah, forever is literally DoA, it's like an amateur game dev team launching an indie shitty game
who knows maybe berserk is baseline now
>>586200008yes but you need primal mooncloth shoulders which is a tbc recipe.
>>586201851I only see changes to Revenge, not shield slamwhat was the AP scaling on Revenge before? so long as they don't nerf it prot is the obvious way to level
post feet
>>586202176oh do you think some of these changes are legacy talent-related? Like how they've said they don't want you to take a talent for a spell you don't even get for 5 more levels?
OGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!
>>586201878gHAHAHAHAAHAis this a fucking cord coping room to get into horde pvp NA servers?
>>586202104Crit is huge dude, especially once you have Flurry. The bonus to int is extremely negligible at lower levels even if you plan to heal dungeons for invites.
>>586202349will never happenyou will get mok'nathal before ogres, and maghar before mok'nathal
>>586201096Don't people say that blizzard only listens to esfand? what happened?
>>586202334
>>586201670nerf while leveling, buff at max level.
Grok what class would Dean Winchester play. Roll that for me and do some early leveling at launch while im still at work so I can come home and start playing at lv 12 or so thanks.
>>586197501warrior is easy mode tanking. pally requires good spell gear to hold aggro but i think this won’t be an issue after lvl 30.
>>586202283it is
wtf even is that prot pala capstonepinkies eating good once more AS USUAL
>>586202525Hunter
>>586202512The thumbnail made me think of that "Alone on a Friday night? God you're pathetic" Sonic the Hedgehog meme.
>salv removed>suddenly tanks have to be skilled at the gameletsfuckinggo
>>586202505He's the reason they put twist of light in in the first place, but literally nobody but him wants seal twisting so they had to concede.
>>586201670buff in the long run because you're going to be level 60 forever and flat damage is retarded design.
>>586192792I fully expect these retarded changes to happen often in the first year so I don't feel like playing at all.>Wanted to go druid>Berserk talent is kinda bad but at least it gives fear immunity for pvp>removedfuck those fat fucks.
>>586202656would still mating press the one on the right first
>>586202347That makes sense, but it won't affect any Hunter on launch since no player will have any legacy points yet so it's a pretty awkward change.
>>586202401>>586201878>it's realPFFFFTAHAHAHAHA
>>586201670oh god prot warrior is going to fucking crash leveling
>>586202656not in forever
>>586202512>didn't pull it aside
as a result of the changes I will be switching from druid pvp healer to pally pvp healerI WILL play the pink class I WILL put on the cage I WILL cleanse my strong muscular tank
>>586202283>>586202589It isn't, they said that it's now available to all specs but then removed it since it was a mistake. It's gone.
Add Draenei, Eredar, or Satyr to Horde
>>586201725I'd still take it, the rotation is fucking awful with lava burst
>>586202938>hordekys cuckold
>>586202663Jokes on you faggot, I will NEVER be skilled at the game
>>586202998BWC bait
>>586202998After you shitskin.
More WotLK stuff being removed really gives credence to that /v/ shitpost.
>>586201586I knew ele was fucked the moment i saw them add lava burst to the tree.
>>586201878Horde players will do this and then laugh at Alliance getting in a line for a quest.
>>586202512wheres the bush
>he swaps his main because it got nerfedWhat compels this behavior?
>>586202938Next race is 100% goblins for horde.
>>586202998Satyr can't join the Alliance retard
>level 60>people have 7000 mana>every 15s, undead players are doing an extra 350 damage and healing for the same amountliterally the most OP racial
i hate on wow retail art because it looks like shit, but actually all wow art is shit and people only ever wanna make sloppa using anime prompts. so maybe wow retail actually is the best it could be given the community.
>we would strongly prefer if you don't level fire mage
>>586203052love me some human big wide cunt
>lived long enough to see prot warrior become one of the top leveling specs
>>586203098This is a bit more than a nerf. Its completely changing how specs play.
>>586203069He wasn't lying about anything, the donut stuff is canon now
>>586203182this looks kick ass.
>>586203153he's doing 23 dps passively and you CANNOT stop him
>>586203098Previous experiences with different versions of WoW. When whoever call the shots has a pet class all other classes suffer and when they hate one class in particular staying on that class is just self induced suffering.
>>586202928average pvp player
for as shit as this general is, the total lack of namefags is nice. it used to be much worse.
>>586203305actually its double that since it procs at the start and then again 15s into the fight
>>586201670Oh god i hope this isn't a nerf. Google says rank 6 had 22% AP scaling so it would be a buff at max level it seems but idk what the scaling was on lower level versions...Also don't know if they touched the flat damage or not...Please no prot warrior nerfs please i was going to enjoy tanking for once in my life
>>586196347>Chain lightning is the single most fun ability to use in vanilla>EM made CL even better>Gut both to the ground, here's some retarded fire ability on the lightning class
my posterior is relaxed, unclenched, moisturized, in its lane, untouched by last minute patches
>>586203067>>586203143
>>586202928that's gay
>>586203392>unprompted seetheNice nice - keep it coming.
>hat indoors>rat indoors>fat indoors
>>586203190>>586203249This is the face of a man who devours 15 donuts daily.
>Taurens get 2H axes as quest rewards in their starting zone>No tauren class can wield 2H axes by default
>>586203472>basic observation>seething?
>>586203504when is staysafe going to make a video on the racials
>>586203472I approve of [lore talk lore talk lore talk].
>>586203261have you tried llooking at the computer screen instead of attempting to suck your own dick. that would help.
>berserk gone
What's the point of being able to report avatarfags if it doesn't do anything?
>>586203392the offtopic avatar tranny is just as bad though
>>586202191Seems very mid but prot is still looking like a meme spec and unless ret is decent you're gonna need two pallies regardless.
i dont even play paladin but what is this seal bullshit lmao just give them divine storm or something lol
>>586203761huh?
>>586203504a nazi incel, a right wing retvrn grifter born in japan, a rapist, and a fat cuck brownoid
donut
>>586203505Living the fat man dream
>>586203446Nobody mentioned anybody getting ORCED/BLACKED but (You).
>>586203829Wrong thread kirikochan
>>586203239That's my druid on day 1
>>586203379wow forever SUCKS
>>586202757
>>586203959>druidanon sama...
>>586203379i'm too autistic to enjoy sloppa of draenei without neck tentacles or nelves without proper long eyebrows, just feels wrong
/wowfg/ approved addons?So far I've got>Dungeon Journal>Attune>Questie>Leatrix Plus>Baganator
>>586203763>he was literally correct on everything except wild growth but that did get nerfed instead of removed, they probably changed their minds on itSo this basically confirms that a blizzard dev is browsing this thread and also dunking on aggrend for being a fat slob
>>586203182I slopped this up just for you anon
>>586196749Get a load of this pve only tranny lmao.
>>586203379why is this being posted in forever general when they aernt in the game
>>586204005BasedBeyondBelief
Any major dude wil tell you that forever will blow
>>586204043W-What?
>>586204052>removed from blizzard partners program
>>586203504>>586204052fame has a price and it's called dignity
>>586203829
>>586204052Good start anon!But consider these as well;>Rarescanner>Decursive>Itemrack>Talents Forever>Gearquest Forever>Gathermate2
I’m a proud faction betraying slut.
>roll Forsaken Paladin>zone in>this is your immediate PoVyour next move?
>>586204072I played on PvP servers in vanilla, I would play on 2500 player cap PvP servers againThese aren't vanilla PvP servers
>>586204187>If we dress like trannies surely the internet will ignore the fact our org is 50% sex pests
>>586204187Not even ONE rocks it Frank-N-Furter-style, are they even fucking trying?
Why does Paladin have an entire page of changes wtf
>>586204149mein fuhrer...steiner....removed druid from the game
>>586204407because all 3 specs were poop
>>586204298Ponder if Turn Undead works on her.
>>586204407Dev got into an argument with someone on the paladin discord.
>blizzard devs read my postslmao
>>586204407>divine int in prot tree>divine strength still in holyShit nigger why
>>586204507and not once in that argument did they say that a 5 minute uptime buff to achieve competitive HPS is a bad thing?
hi aggrend
>>586201640arena of champions
Just play an Aggrend class or a streamer class (except Rogue lmao)
>>586204470But my plans to make a resto hottie...
>Tfw you're mid dungeon when your tank stops, goes afk for 5 minutes without saying word, comes back and exclaims - "uh oh wife aggro" and leaves immediately with no further contextI just made that scenario up in my head and now I'm seething about it. I'm literally inventing things to get mad about. Then posting them here.Where the fuck did it all go so wrong?
>>586204714for me its Fight of Characters.
>>586204751Your only choice is femdwarf shammie
>>586204530become dev
>>586204590both divine strength and int should have remained in the holy tree because it's the definitive paladin talent tree closest to the "divine" or whateverUther was a holy paladin
>>586204801You should invent scenarios where you have friends to play with...
>>586200209you've prepared your WoW forever playlist right?
>>586204005I didnt buy into the beta I'm not a retard, unsubbed atm and will remain that way it seems.>>586204330WoW without pvp is meaningless.
>>586204470>>586204751if sodapoppin complains, it will get fixed
>>586204801When you parents gave you unfettered access to the Internet at a formative age
does this game have blood elf paladin and draenei shaman?
Resto bros…what class are we jumping ship to
>>586204921no, it has blood elf shaman.
>>586204801This is normal 4chan user schizophrenia to be fair.
they need to bake permafrost into higher ranks of spells innately u have no points
>>586203239>>586202656>>586197142Anon for the love of god upload all of your stuff somewhere so we can get the ones we're missing
>>586204960Why would you switch off of resto shaman?
Based Aggrend making you seeth while aquiring a harem of fertile breedable fan-fembois
>>586204801A tank leaving isn't that rare of an occurrence, it can happen. But it would be pretty realistic for your party to still be able to finish the dungeon if your DPS can play well.
>>586204960My warrior needs more holy paladins to q bgs
reminder zirene was in <who> toxic eliteist 4chan lingo style guild that only left when he was in blizzard because they were griefing and doing toxic things and it made him look bad while being in that guild at blizzardhe also came from lol were a lot of pro players and ppl in scene (even journos like travis) went to /vg/ lol generalhe's the one reading these threads
>>586204590Holy wouldn't really need anything from Ret, but could use some stuff from ProtRet wouldn't really need much from Prot, but could use some stuff from HolyProt's in a peculiar position where its most important stat (I mean, beyond Stamina) is spellpower itself.
>tons of class changes>destruction capstone is still incinerate
>>586204801I won't lie to you. I lol'd.
Why do they keep injecting retail dna into the game?Just make classic+That's all people wantIT'S SO FUCKING SIMPLE
I just don't think the game is going to be very good anymore
>>586205124tier sets will make it work, trust the plan
turtlechads still laughing at us
>>586205158The only know how to make retail.
>>586204960Still probably the best healer. Myself I'm playing prot.
>>586205158What is classic+ according to your definition?
>>586205095so he's the only based person on the dev team?
>>586201978So where's your source for this then?
>We still have three days...everything will be fine
>>586205124you are NOT getting chaos bolt lil bro
>>586205198me too fellow druid player
>>586205329he had to say some pr bullshit beacuse his guild was being too based with griefing
THESE 32 POINTS ARE REQUIRED FOR FROST MAGE PVP AND YOU NEED 17 POINTS IN ARCANE FOR IMPROVED COUNTERSPELLCANNOT GET PERMAFROSTCANNOT GET ARCTIC REACH CANNOT GET IMP FROST NOVAMAKE WINTERS CHILL 3 POINTSREMOVE 20% ICE BARRIER BUFF FROM FROST WARDING
>>586205095>he was the leaker the other day
>>586205426> REQUIRED FOR FROST MAGE PVP who gives a shit about duels again?
They just lost the private server crowd with these changes. We want seal twisting back
Yes, I am playing human female priest. How did you know?
>>586205447He seems a bit overqualified to be serving Krispy Kremes to Aggrend.
>>586205426I think its a drop imp counterspell angle
>>586205421>>586205095antifa took him out
>>586205426Yeah... it's nice I don't have to play Mage anymore.
>>586205579Why is there a cock and balls on the wall in the background?
>>586204970why would elves become shaman when they have infinite power at their disposal?
>>586205426AAAAAAAAAAA I HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES AGGREND SAVE ME
>>586205571Seal twisting was not only autistic shit, the term and gameplay didn't fit the class fantasy at all.
baked>>586205448>>586205448>>586205448n go>>586205448>>586205448>>586205448
>>586203098i’m guessing 33% of forever players have no knowledge of classic let alone niller
>>586204590this is why 90% of prot pallies will be dogshit in the first 2 months before they leave
warcraft
>>586201507>wow slay the spireSauce on this one?
>>586200008yes + the nelf priest starshards ability looks sick imo
>>586201507I just want WoW Triple Triad man.
>ninja turtles hands>turtles>turtleturtle wow
>>586205426I don’t do your autistic bullshit I just fill out the entire frost tree and then jump into building the full pvp set
pooever aka turtle minus is going to fail miserably
>>586202663>how to destroy alleycucks with 1 simple changeKEK no more playing on ez mode lil faggits
>9 fucking million characters in PAID betaThis. Is. A. Monolith.
>>586193149There's a big arena in STV. They should add more like it.
>>586197852>>586198001>>586199082Am I missing something or is binding heal strictly better than flash heal? Gotta be a data mining bug.https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=1240774/binding-healhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=10917/flash-heal
