Ashenvale Edition>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesThe journey begins on November 4 - 11:00 PM GMT>NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance<Remigration> PvP Horde>EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde<Yggdrasil> PvP Hordefootnote: no discord shilling>>586600896
Enjoy your OP toolkit rouges, youre time with the nerve bat is coming.
Skelf love!
Blood elf supremacy
So do we think 21/30 Ret Holy is still bussin, or is the new Ret Capstone not actual liquid feces and worth taking?
So did Rogue win bigly?
post cunny
Do skelfs have child models? Female child models?
>>586612759tranny tranny you dont pass look into this mirrored glasswe know you hate what you seetranny you will r.i.p
female human magepvpsolo
This shit has too many elves man
>>586607147What did he mean by this?
SOON
Do you think there are a lot of homosexuals in the WoW universe, similar to real life?
Nelfs stay winning
loli draenei love
So how's priest now with all the new changes? Is shadow good? Are the other two healing specs good?
so how is retail+ going?
>>586612759I didn't like sky elves, until I met /her/...
>>586612939yes the moment you press log in
Satyr gfNOW
>>586612812if you fags don't give me the source soon I will make combine harvester look like a joke
EnhancementGODS winning winned wonned BIGLY
THIS GAME IS STILL IN BETAUNBALANCED POS PATCHNOTESRETARD DEVS
>>586612728Sunken Temple and Maraudon. They're my favourite dungeons.
i'm going to buy the skyborne
female undead paladinfemale nelf priest
>>586613072>seething druiggerlmao stay mad
REEEEETAAAAAAAAIIIIIL
>>586613004Complete trash
>>586613039theres literally a pic in the previous thread with the artists watermark you damn goober
Why is the Feral druid capstone literally just heroic strike???
Is this it prot bros?
>>586613142too late - the cutoff was beta ending
>>586613160Im jealous of people who get to play cute shadowmeld nelfies , my friends want to go horde
>>586612939yes but in-universe they're called paladins
>>586613042Shouldn't Spirit Weapons have been buffed following the removal of Salvation though?Did Fatgrend forget about it?
>I'm going to have to make enchanting rods
pls blizz
>>586613254it isn't
>>586613042The shaman buffs are good and needed but considering every other class got big buffs too, I still think they’ll be towards the bottom in dps.
Whats up fuckersI haven't been here for about 4 years, but I think the classicwow subreddit is actually driving me to psychosis Why are people celebrating the Shaman changes? There's someone who thinks the Ele changes make them the spec "he's always dreamed of" and mostly does PvP. Are these motherfuckers real humans? Isn't Ele essentially just Classic minus at this point? Resto especially looks insane. Just 1 button macro on the MT and people are happy about it>lol why you on redditI don't fucking know man. There's not many places to read the patchnotes and being here risks my security clearance.
is an auction addon still useful with the AH changes? if so which one
dadgamers won
>>586613381is this "big buff" for warriors in room with us now?
>>586612758they'll remove the sap talent and everyone will be happy
>>586613142anon...
>>586613341It has literally the same tooltip
>>586613340muh NO RETAIL SHIT IN FOREVER won't allow it
>>586613434kys reddit nigger
>>586613214Dang... Even holy and disc?
>>586613434for all this places issues reddits like 70+% bot
>>586613434>being here risks my security clearance.Release the files and/or the aliens, glowboy
>>586613268Nah, this bro
>>586613268Looks close.
>>586613434Reddit is generally one of the worst places on the internet for discussion.Reddit is for googling problems and finding a post from UpdootChungus 4 years ago that fixes your issue and literally nothing else.
>>586613464>rogues will be straight up oneshotting everyoneYeah they will be removed from the game 2 weeks in
>>586613142uh oh
>>586613440fork of auctioneer once someone vibecodes it to see item listing prices
>>586613254>>586613485>instant attack is the same as an attack modifieri bet you think mortal strike is the same as heroic strike
Tell me why this spec WOULDN'T rape in PvP?
attention, one day left to claim your Sally, roll!https://d.uguu.se/MqfbKxdc.mp4
>Nobody I know wants to play tank besides the shaman player who can't
>>586613595And now you have AI to do this exact thing for you.
>>586613004Priest is the best healer and they will always be the best. Anybody saying otherwise is a subpar healer class trying to cope with the repeated butt intrusions that Blizzard is performing on them.
>>586613595>finding a post from UpdootChungus 4 years ago that fixes your issue and literally nothing else.its jarring when you see a post with nigger or nigga and ita dated 10 years ago
>>586613485The tooltip may be similar, but heroic strike is on next attack, which bears already had a version of in maul. Primal bite is instant so it's more like shield slam.
>>586613632press button get damage, bfd
>>586613340You think they'll actually make attractive gear now they need to get customers who are very unlikely to stay once they realize it's bait and switch classic reskin.
https://x.com/OlympusNewsLOL/status/2117450189640503566[Great News]Olympus is rolling both PvE and PvP ruleset
NO TUNING TILL THE RAID OPENS LMAO
>>586613660pls give futa
>>586610685>windfury has a 20% chance to proc for two 333 attacks>elemental weapons increases this to 466 attack power or a bonus of 133>20% of the time x2 = your talent gives you 53 static attack power for 3 pointsyou know druids get a talent that gives them 90 attack power for 3 points, trueshot aura is 100 for 1 point and everything else is a % increaseI guess warlocks get 60 spellpower for 3 points which is sort of like 150 attack power
How does this look for leveling?
>>5866136600!
>>586613268>3 enrage
>>586613457>best class >still getting minor buffs Warrior is fine. Literally S or A tier. Shaman was in the gutter and is maybe B tier now.
>>586612759>>586613020skelf = disgusting slimebelf/high elf = my wife (I love her)
>>586613674I want to play Tank. Paladin looks OP. You have Shield Specialization to solve all of your mana issues and you get both Redoubt and Holy Shield to help you reach avoidance cap. On top of it all, you get damage reduction talents and the ability to block spells because your class needs it or something.
Will we ever get any new slutmog armors?
>>586613660rollan for futa
>>586613762God NO
>>586613762>this will cause blizzard to patch and change the gameisn't this a bannable offense? oh wait blizzard runs on a caste system thats right rules dont apply to streamers
Planning on going tauren enhancement shaman, what am I in for?
>>586613712nta but no that’s not how those buttons work
Is there an addon that adds the chance of gaining a skill up when crafting something?
>>586613628Retail pet add-on was broken and guy who fixed it just used AI and has no idea how to do it otherwise. So now the addon is on github and maybe mentioned in some random comment about the old broken one.
>>586613824warrior was worst class and will be even worse now lmao
Im glad warlocks got nerfed, it means I'll be more unique by playing one
>>586613792>AnticipationYou will never be a tank
>>586613928glad you're aware
>>586613890I feel bad for azn dudes- none of their women are capable of love. Not even their mothers.
>>586613929>grimtotemme raping you lovingly
>>586613762If you are in NA you must roll on RP
NO TUNING TILL THE RAID RELEASE LMAOOO DEAD GAMENO MORE CLASS CHANGES LMAO IF YOUR CLASS IS CLUNKY CUZ SHIT DESIGN ITS OVER
>>586613890That's one horny chink whore with fake tits
>>586613658because paladins are scum and babies
I'm still playing Priest
did they change the health regen system? ie can I still have a shitty spirit cloth set for my warrior so he gets busted regen outside of combat?
>>586613979based retard
>>586614118How bad will it be to level one? I'm thinking of going one.
>>586613986It's for Stromstrike resets... though you made me realize it's not 100% with 1 point in Improved Stormstrike so I guess I'd take a point from there to max it.
>>58661397390% addons are now vibe coded by claude anon, where have you been past year or so
>>586613795didnt mtg say theyre doing a set next year with wow
>deletes your character from 51 yards awayheh nothing personel kiddo
>>586613762>bunch of tourists roll alliance pvp and thus let more horde characters be made>they quit in a month and now the server is 25/75
>>586613929>Planning on going tauren enhancement shaman, what am I in for?No good racialsWorst starting zoneBarrens chatDying to alliance outrunnersEndless pain living in mud huts in endgame
>>586613792Anticipation is both weird one and redundantIt's position in the tree makes it akward to invest intoSpiritual weapons is better and has redundancy with anticipation for improved stormstrikeI would just skip it especially after improved ghost wolf moved to row 4Shaman has for real the most hungry row 4 lmao in enhance
>>586613979Not even close. >inb4 it was the worst in a level 30 streamer PvP tournament Nobody with a brain cares about level 30 PvP tournament where everyone has full consumes and min maxed every detail.But even then Shadow Priest was the worst. Which was obvious because shadow sucks without shadow form.
>>586614164chill wanding until shadowform and then blowing shit up while never worrying about mana ever again>>586614221>not NEoh sweet summer child...
>>586613928Don't worry, dear leader will get his way.
>>586614076this seems like ascencion coa release 2.0 strangely enough
>>586614221sniper shot into aimed is gonna be funny
>>586613890HOW DO I ACQUIRE A SOULLESS CHINK WHORE WHO WANTS TO SUCK EVERY LAST DROP OF VRILL LIFEFORCE FROM MY BODY WITH HER RUTHLESS SUCCUBUS PUSSY BROS?
>>586614221*roots you and stands in your deadzone**hibernates your pet and gets into bear form and rapes it while you watch*heh nothing personel kiddo
>>586612728Zul'Farrak. I love that place like you wouldn't believe
>>586613660Gib me futa pls thx
going dwarf warrior like I was in OG wow. fuck it I want to recapture my youth again.
>>586614221>plays on pve server The entire buff / nerf roulette wheel is irrelevant to me.
>increase everyone's damage by 20%>don't increase HPdo they even think about the repercussions in pvp?
>>586613268I'm waiting for Alaundo to baby bird the talent tree into my mouth
i've still not decided on PVP or RP-PVP.i'm worried that the population on RP-PVP will be shit, and that they won't take shit "seriously".any ex-grobbers here? what was it like? was it like any other PVP server but with fruity RP shit also?in the ideal situation, i'd want it to be basically a PVP realm but it's also like a zoo where you can see RPers doing their RP shit. not to say i'm against participating in events or whatever, but I don't know how much I could buy in to it. PVP but fun.
>>586614076seethe more catfucker
>>586614250>no good racialsdon't they have that busted herbalism skill? and ground stomp stun is still pretty good
>>586614293>one shots you from stealth 51 yards away;)
>>586613890That's it I'm rolling on CN and grabbing a chinese femcel.
>>586614336>trap>scare beast because druids are used to mages trying to poly while in a formwow
>>586614365it's over for pvp
>>586613340THIS SHIT IS IN RETAIL? i know what i'm doing when i get bored of forever
How bad is warrior now bros... Are we the worst tanks and worst dps?
>>586612759>clean shavengive her a thicc bush, or get her the fuck outta here
I feel like I'm completely behind the curve with my preparation and I might as well not play...
>>586614287So if I took all 3 out and put 1 into maxing imp Stormstrike that would leave me with 2 for Reverberation I guess? What else is there to really take?
>pve server>male night elf priest>wand spec levelingim coming home
>>586614221I Turned WoW Into A First Person Shooter Dating Sim With Roguelike Elementsred arrow pointing to 51 yards, orc with eyes popping out of their sockets and an agape jaw
>>586614541best tanks and still top tier dps my fren
>>586613821Yeah but where should I get two more points from bro?
>>586613942yeah it is
We are calling for a total Shaman Strike
>>586614221>>586614441You won’t be one shotting anyone while having a pet out. Better take lone wolf.
>>586614440Stomp is fine. Herbalism thing is trash. HP one is trash after they nerfed it. Plainrunning is cute, but retarded if you're a druid and worthless once you're 40.
everyone in these class discords are morons who aren't worth getting advice from, where are the actual secret club discords with top tier players and spreadsheet autists?
How stupid is it to level cat if I want to play resto at 60?
>>586614675deflection nigga you arent going to die in this game but you might lose threat
>>586614480trap isnt going to reach me you dont have launcher like on retailand i can just switch out of bear form to cancel your castyou WILL watch me rape your pet and cry impotently
>>586614613You won't even need the 5 points in that resto talent.You want to dip more into elemental tree after.
>>586614739>WeI guarantee he did it himself and didn't ask anyone else
with the mental dex buff will I have to wear a dress and use a staff as enhancement now?
>>586614824why would it be stupid? just level as cat and respec around 50, grab some cheap greens with healing power from auction and start doing brd and other 50+ dungeons for healing gear
>>586614864Ahhh you wanted me to put the three points somewhere else got it. But more damage also seems good?
>>586614739Uhhhh didn’t they just do with removing lava burst? Isnt that what reddit was crying for? What are they even mad about?
Shaman finally understanding what it was like to play an actual paladin in vanilla.
>>586614249do you think every single faggy dad gamer who's rolling pvp to play an epic edgy undead paladin will stay playing forever? there will be huge drop offs for both faction
>>586614967yep and garrosh's buttplug trinket is now BiS
>>586614868>he thinks huntards will play with a pet instead of lone wolflolLmao You’ll have to get close and then you’re going to get trapped and one tapped.
>>586615018improved ghost wolf change fucks the entire class now ele and resto can't insta wolf, and enh has to waste an extra 2 points on garbage they don't want in tier 2
>>586614737Re read the tool tips dude this is embarrassing
so now that blizzard has confirmed the game to be retail- how long do you plan on sticking this time around
>>586613660she would want you to find christ and to stop gooning
>>586614543I agree. Need that shit thick like a brillo pad so she can scrub my face like dirty dishes.
>>586615070hunters can only play traps at their feet, deadzone is 8 yards awayyou will be raped by druids as you just sit in your cuck roots and watch
>>586613951There is some kind of new talent tree that has among it an ability that levels a profession skill. I've been looking for this again because I think it was a daily, leveling your lowest prof so it would be better to only take 1 prof first.It's basically a sliding probability after it turns yellow.Red = guaranteedYellow = near guaranteedGreen = you might get another couple points spamming a lot of it
who has an updated talent calculator link? wowheads isn't updated yet
>>586614824I'm leveling as enh and plan to switch to resto for raids
It's ok, no one is going to play dwarf shaman anyway so it's like there's a shaman strike already
>>586614739>be power tripping discord modlet>close discord in a meltie over patch notes>every noob is redirected to a new discord server that becomes de facto main discord for forever shamans>....continue screeching!-ACK!
>>586615128Enhancement waste 0 points, you have that +INT talent in row 1 getting the 2 points you were going to spend on ghost
Do we have a guild on Horde RP EU?
>>586615192I found how to calculate the chance by googling but I'd rather have an addon than spend 5 minutes calculating the chance for everything I can craft at that skill level
>>586615229it's literally in the OP
>>586613890both of the people in this image are biofems
What do you use to manage your addons nowadays? Wago or curse? Any alternatives?
>>586615192Picture is one, while another is 24 hr cd, your lowest Prof amongst both primaries and all secondaries by +1. If both primaries and ALL secondaries are already maxed, make some Elements instead.
>>586615291>in row 1bro you are forced to waste points in tier 2 to get to tier 3 do you even play the game
>>586613890>there are literally hundreds of millions of these womenI need to actually buckle down and learn mandarin already
>>586615006what the fuck take 2 points from deflection and put them in enrage nigga
>>586615370guess im gay
>>586615417Excellent bait my lord
>>586615128Minor inconveniences. Is it worth having a meltie over? >noooo I have to cast….ghost wolf!!!! If that’s your biggest problem then this is probably as good as it will get.
>>586615242no matter, I'll play it and drop WF totem for 10g a cast
>>586615417I think you're retarded bro
OlympusGAWDS it's fvarking out!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63sDs6gvyVY
>>586615370watthe dude in the black is not a dude, it's a girl? you fucking with me? looks just like a Faker or something.
>>586615189What makes you think you’ll get the opener? I’ll be in shadowmeld waiting for you.
>not levelling every classngmi
>>586615128all shaman being able to instawolf was gay anyway
Final results are in
>>586615018Removed 1 button from elemental and pumping numbers up without solving any of the core issues of the class. Dogshit spec remains Dogshit and if you believe elemental is now "saved" you are legit a 70 iq thirdie subhuman.Absolutely murdered any viability for Shaman in PvP outside with ghost wolf in enhance row 4 and riptide nerf, riptide legit could been removed from the game and no one would notice it's gone in this stateBlizzard hate for Shaman is absurd.
>>586613762>announces plans to negatively impact the game so much that blizzard will have to step in>they perma his accountwould he suicide? his wow account is all he has left
>>586615635>leveling dr*id
>>586615575Dude it has tits, are you blind?
>>586613890how shit that girl on the right is feral.need to get someone this eager to kiss me...
Spoonfeed me, which classes will be doing the oneshotting?
i just realized that none of the rogue concerns are gonna be an issue for me as Alliance and even more so if theres humans around the perimeter
>>586615361thanks, I'm a retard
>>586615651OJ is that you
>>586615616Considering the hunter I replied to was an orc I don't think it'll be very difficult but cat has much higher stealth than shadowmeld you little huntard
Being able to spec improved ghost wolf at level 19, before you've even learned ghost wolf, was a major part of the class identity and fantasy.
I'm not playing shaman but why remove Lava Burst? And replacing it with 5% crit buff seems like a slap in the face
>>586615397manual method
>>586615410Its garbage
>>586615705You only level a druid for 10 levels, then you level a bear
>>586615667Smite?
Uhhh, have you got games on your phone??
>>586615417Open the fucking calculator and try to spec shaman now
>>586615651Why don’t ingame goblins look like this?
>>586612710Is there a way to download wowf without blizzard launcher, even if I had to patch it manually?
>>586615708>Dude it has tits, are you blind?yes, where?
>>586615410This 'increase your chance by %' is probably a trap. It won't mean you have a % chance of increasing the skill it will mean if the chance is 10% your 20% increase makes it 12% and if it's 0% it does fuck all.
>>586615716none but you should go rogue for double sap
>>586615667>shockadin 4th best DPSshouldn't be viable at all as a pve DPS shockadin has always been a pvp build and I hate these fucking redditors crying that every single spell in holy doesn't also have a damage mode
>>586615667>mm weave I’ll be a lone wolf sniper and there’s nothing you can do about it.
>2 rogues can sap 4 targets and blind 2 targetsenjoy BGs
>>586615667>balance less than 100 points ahead of elemental but without any cleave>feral over 100 dps below enhance with less utility >resto shaman by far the best raid healer why resto druid is by far the best dead weightits actually fucking over for us druid bros... we lost...
>>586615839I think winget can fetch files.
>>586615818SSSSSSEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>586615698Why the fuck would Asmongold care about his wow account being banned? He can just go back to playing other games and talking about politics
Friendly reminder devs considerably upped damage output of all classes but didnt adjust hp at all so if you are playing a class such as a mage solo you are gonna be in a world of hurt. Arcane and Fire mages can be alphaed in about 3 globals from a rogue or hunter or feral druid (I did a napkin math on this) and theres no end game gear which gives you enough stamina without massively sacrificing your offensive power.
>>586615812
>>586615667rogue sisters?
>>586615934feral doesnt cleave either :3
>>586615934you picked the wrong hybrid
>>586616008UHHHHHH I THOUGHT SHAMANS WERE BAD???
>>586615934your sin is having 3% raidwide crit because making things die faster is the best utility there it
>>586615502Nah I must take it from something else. I want to parry and block as much as possible because that's what my fantasy of a prot warrior is like
>>586616008Penance needs to be buffed back into being worth taking
does forever have the one button rotation?i want to lazymax
Grinding server first 100 gold and gifting it to my findom goddess Kaise so she calls me a good boy on stream :3
>>586615935I don't know what that is.I'm Linux user and I don't have desktop windows since few years.
>>586615839WinGet to get the binaries and ask Claude to make you custom launcher that doesn't draw the interface and inputs your login info.
>>586615667uhhh roguebros i dont feel so good why are we next to ele and balance at least we will be good in pvp right?
>>586615818why cant they fucking give us this hairstyle for the adults?
>>586616119Based
>>586615698Are there really people who care about their wow accountI could lose mine and not give a fuck and I have shit you can’t even get anymore from vanilla and tbc I honestly could level a character to 60 in classic gear it up and then delete it without feeling a thing at this point
>>586615667>arcane tops fire/frostHoly based! I loved playing Arcane mage on Turtle WoW.
>>586615961wowo is the only game that actually makes him feel anythinghe needs it like meth
>31 hours left>still can't decide between druid and hunter
>>586616119Does she really do that...? I must admit being called a good boy is what gets me diamonds the most
>>586616119We’re all doing this
>>586616073I mean grace over air totem gives 3-4.5% crit but its still nowhere near as good as other shaman utility so they dont even drop it
>>586616119asmond wonned..
>>586616218just flip a coin
absolute moronic devs last minute retard changes
>>586615410The legacy talent where you get more scarce materials is gonna be way better for endgame
>>586616119
>>586616119>plastic surgery>5 pounds of makeup>giant fake balloon titslegitimately can't fathom how anyone is into this
>half the fags are crying shaman and druid are doa>other half is crying they are secretely super opjesus christ I hate the wow community
>>586615830It would make men happy
asmongold gets to slam that?
>>586616119God I want to be plunged into financial ruin to please Empress Kaise...Imagine falling onto hard times just to give her everything you own. Pure bliss.
>>586616119>25 layers of makup>3 filters to bootlol
>>5866158391. Open Blizzard Launcher and go to WoW:F2. Hit the gear next to Play3. Show in Explorer4. Open _forever_5. Right click Wow.exe and add icon to taskbar/desktop6. Can now open WoW to classic login screen without annoying b.net appYOU'RE WELCOME
Should I go into a class discord?
>>586615667>ench shaman +34.6%
>>586616278I'm a recovering gambling addict so that's out of the question
>>586616218Do you want to be able to tank/heal or not?
Dadgamers, don't make this 10 mistakes at launch
>>586616120winget is aptget but windows
>>586616302>>586616342set yourself on fire, troons
>>586616117Mage. You occasionally might have to polymorph something
Enhancement Shamanbros we fucking won
>>586615934>without any cleave?
>>586615667what about melee hunter without weaving
is it true pvp ruleset isnt accepting horde characters anymore?
>>586616119>worships a whore with plastic surgery Pathetic.
>>586616313in SoD shaman literally could not die, they could solo battle grounds using just healing and lighting shield. the top 2 dps specs in the game were shaman dps and shaman tank, the top healer was shaman.Despite all of this they STILL had the most people on the forums and on reddit complaining and begging for buffs. They still claimed it wasnt fair that paladins had a bubble. Shaman literally only know how to bitch and moan and cry and the devs ALWAYS fall for it. They are the trans community of WoW in all but name
>>586616119Asmon has never been happier because he loves (genuinely fucking loves) getting findom'd by Kaise. Is findom the most ascended fetish one can have?
>>586616410Imagine if his final video right before release is>Dads, just don’t play WoW forever
>>586616429she looks like a troon bro LMAO
Why is this nigger meta changing every 2 fucking days lmfao.
PvE server looking kinda comfy now...
>>586616237She was the single biggest findom OnlyFanner for years.The rumor is Roach has lost several millions to her and is current wearing a chastity cage. She'd have the most disgusting blackmail material of him.
>>586616529I guess that's because it was a horde only class, it's all hordelets ever do on forums too, cry and bitch about heckin' alliance bias
>>586616483Not a question retard. hurricane but that is a dedicated aoe and its damage has been reduced from its damage in classic, they have no starfall or any form of cleave.
>>586616582there's still more than 24 hours left, here's hoping they boost priests to A tier
Imagine how good this game would be is paladin and druid were deleted and rogues couldn’t stealth but can pickpocket outside of stealth and can disguise
>>586616529nobody played SoD or cares about how classes performed there. your sentence means as much to me as someone talking about paladin performance on Ascension or druid performance on Turtle.
>>586616186I care about my wow account like its one of my dogs
>>586615684Oh and without lava burst if you get spell locked in pvp you can't even do anythinf anymoreLolYeah ele and resto shaman might be the worst specs to pvp in the gane Projection change is a pve murder for elemental thinkinh about, can't send magma totem anymore unless you go melee lolYeah just fucking delete Elemental tree, unplayable pvp borderline unplayable pve tooShamams going to literally leech raids only because of totems lol while having 3 dogshit specs
>>586614672Nice!
>enh shamans now sim better with 1h daggers and a shield with flametongue weapon then they do with 2h windfury>enh shamans sim better in pure int gear then they do with STR gearLOL
>>586616504Asmon has demanded his legion roll alts on alliance PVP now, so horde slots will open.
>>586616676>there's still more than 24 hours leftWhat makes you think it will stop after launch?
>>586616582I hope they keep doing it after release to keep metafags busy. Even better if they shuffle racials around so that people start leveling one of each class-race combination.
>>586616535yeah haha the findom must be awful, imagine having to spend a fraction of his dragon horde to hear see her smile
>>586616410>forgetting to feed your kids>getting fired for absence>ignoring wife yapping>forget to mow lawn so hoa evicts youwhat else?
Is it me or Feral Cat doesnt have any fucking AoE damage 1 day before release?How does a DPS spec not get even a single cleave/aoe button? Am i crazy here
>>586616693SoD and Forever have the same dev team retard. The lead of SoD is the lead of Forever. It is the same exact people making the same exact choices.
>>586616617>roachman is dating a findom dragon ladyNot surprised, he's a frail libtard.
>>586616529Ok but that’s not happening in forever, sorry you have trauma from Sod.
>>586616685imagine forever, except good>it wont be
>>586613857>he hasn't ascended to slime girls
>>586616535Isn't findom just the default for relationships? Women spending the mens money. They even take half of everything he owns when divorcing
>>586615698the shareholders would never allow it
>>586616791>Feral Cat doesnt have any fucking AoE damageNever did. Cat is just an autistic rogue.
can’t wait to go back to Xiv and can stop hearing brown retards talk about how their favorite porn stars and streamers are beefing with one another.
>>586616685I honestly think paladin and druids are basically hero classes and their existence fundamentally breaks the seesaw of balance for other classes and diminishes their kits There is no way to have paladin and druid not be bad but also have the other classes feel good
>>586616846yeah and then she gives all that money to chad so that she can rim his dirty ass while he fucks another 11/10 babe
>>586613762>roleplayers' face when they see all the people flooding in to avoid asmond
>one more sleep>one more work Fuck bros I'm just going to get drunk tonight and go to work hung over. Going to sleep asap is the speedrun here bros.
>>586614743it's not worthless because it works in forms so a cow druid in stealth goes faster then any other druid would
is 1 button "rotations" in the "spirit of classic" or is it "fucking boring as shit"
>>586616757She's basically a modern women ramped up 20x. Baldman will be broke and divorced in under 5 years after he marries her.
>>586617106both
>>586616791retoilet zoomie detected.
>>586616361Based
>>586617106that is the most classic thing imaginable
>>586617106Back to retail.
>>586616884Brutal Slash but yeah, not in Vanilla but look at all the other classes and tell me theyre still Vanilla
>Olympus rolls 100K alliance PVP characters>everyone that wants to play horde pvp can make their characters now>Olympus delete all their alliance alts>PVP faction balance is giga fucked toward Horde >creation of new Horde characters is perma locked >nobody will want to make new alliance fodder for the Infinite Horde to correct itthis is Asmon's grand plan btw
Join fun haversWe have fun and so can you
I honest to god can't tell at this point if this is supposed to be classic like, retail like, or some "they fucked and had an abortion" type thing.
>>586617106The spirit of classic is playing the game while I can half pay attention to rewatching TNG.
>>586616909>wowfg: browns spamming ai porn>xivg: gay browns spamming erp slop
>>586617106Dadgamers will literally drop a deuce on a floor if they have to press more than a single button every 5 secs
I wish fem humans were real
>>586617153retail has 1 button rotationsn too. Most specs are like 2-3 buttons max anyways.
>>586615934Dead class, dead game
>>586617245It's ok blizzard doesn't know either
>>586616967Paladin is easy. Just finish the original vanilla vision where they were supposed to spend every global buffing others.
>>586617132you SEVERELY underestimate the bald man's empirealso from what i understand she's supposed to be loaded too because of her rich family
>>586616617>The rumor is Roach has lost several millions to her and is current wearing a chastity cageThere are no rumors like that, this is just your fetish.
>>586616676Aren't priests already the best healer?
is there any data on how many people are going to be choosing each ruleset
>>586617245It seems very different than what it originally started out as. I'm trying to figure out what they are going for with Forever.
>>586617187He will not play past the new year, he'll quit before or right around Christmas, blame blizzard for it, and pretend like he never played or enjoyed Forever at all.
>>586617187Lol I wish. Nothing I'd love more than to camp assmongoloid and his dickriders. But they're all dog shit at PvP so that's why they're going PvE
>>586617332He literally bought her a 2 million house you idiot
>>586616791AoE? We dont do that around here
>>586616676As a priest, I'm fine. Give us pre-nerf penance and it will be perfect.
Reminder that the riptide nerf reduced the HPM by 10% besides increasing the CD by 100%
>>586617367yeah claude hacked into the hiveminds neuralink and it turns out everybody is actually rolling on RP PvE servers
>>586617367We looked at the data, and what we found surprised us
I'M GONNA FVCKING PVVVVVVVVVVMP
10 BILLION POINTS TO PALADINS AND ROGUES
>>5866173674chan data
>>586616723No fucking way this is true...
>>586617367https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YXvPBn-Rq_E
>>586616769>forgetting to wake up the kids at 7am on a weekend
>>586617245Well it’s not retail, but it does just look like a seasonal fun server. I know people get triggers by this, but it’s now official that random Russians created a more authentic classic+ than Nu-Blizz ever could. >inb4 programmer socks from one tranny dev
>>586617331He ain't getting a single red cent of her families money lmao. She's there to rob him blind and degrade him. Roachie is FUCKED if she gets pregnant.
is it true that tranny shammys have to carry around dilation rods just to cast their spells?
>>586616617hot. i bet she likes black guys too
>>586615698oh no he'll have to cry into kaise's fat boobs about how sad he is
>>586616429>denialhow transtesticle of you
>>58661736770/30 pvp/pve and single digit % for RP realms
>>586617325nobody wants to take an auto attacking buff bot though and who would even want to play as one
>>586617245It's basically SOD 0.5
what are chinks like
are femdeads cute?
Are we hyped guys?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wg46fwmb0
>>586615667Roguesisters...
There should be a study at players behaviours in wow classic, complete insanity and antisocial behaviours. I didn't realize this till i started paying attention in the guild I was in on anniversary>typical normal guild>i dont care about making e-friends so im neutral/silent on a lot of subjects>this eventually puts me in a position where everyone trusts me for some reason idk why>come to find out that everyone in the guild secretely hates everyone else and theres always behind-back shit talking>they all act like they are best friends during raids>constant bitch level shit talking in dms and whispers or voice when raid isnt happening and not everyone is therejust opened my eyes that no matter what guild you join, no matter how good of a standing you think you are with people, they will ALWAYS shit talk anyone when they arent there or in private messages.
>>586617442WHAT?!?! DO YOU MEAN THAT SHAMAN CAN NO LONG SPAM HOLY SHOC- I MEAN RIPTIDE CONSTANTLY TO SPOT HEAL?!?NOOOOOOOOO!! THIS ISNT IN THE SPIRIT OF CLASSIC, SHAMAN NEED TO HAVE AN INSTANT HOT THEY CAN SPAM ON EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME!!!
>>586617029>one more worklmaowagey get back in your cagey
>>586617571super
I have 2 weeks off I will speed level a rogue on rp-pvp and then slow level a lock with friends on pve
>>586617571Yes
>>586614039That's actually two women and the one on the left asked for it
>>586617508>He ain't getting a single red cent of her families money lmaoi wasn't implying that more that it's not like she doesn't already have everything she could want so all he has to do for now really is the like here and now gifts and gestures and such, not like they're married (yet)
>roll pve>don't have to worry about ganking but world feels less alive and pvp feels pointless>roll pvp>world is more alive but i have to deal with pvp when i don't want to>roll rp>might be new experience but i'm bad at writing>rp-pvp is a memei can't decide
>>586616582Gonna be like this for awhile lil gup
>>586617483>27 votes>22 votes>18 votesdata as useful as CN election polls.
>>586617569looks like i'm rolling on cn servers
>>586617483Why so little love for rp-pvp...
>6 more poopies>1 more sleepie>10 more fappiesbefore launchLET'S GO GUYS
>>586617389>>586617390Yeah they're not actually going to play on pvp. They're just going to make characters in the first week, and then delete or not play them to fuck with the balancing.
>>586613268Either this or swap the Bloodrage points to Sunder Armor.
>>586617481wheres the updated calculator? all these other sites are slow and lazy af
wont pvp servers be an absolute shit show with the layering. like you cross an invisible boundary and a group of the oher faction just appears around you.
>>586616757why is this bitch so fucking mean and angry 24/7, couldnt he find a woman with a feminine personality or some shit
>>586617442There is no chance they won't change it back in the next month. Keystone talents should be impactful instead of just being an additional button and riptide is now barely better hpm than healing wave.Most healers are pretty boring now, reduces competiton I guess.
>>586617569lucky fucks
>>586617483>NA NEETS going PVP>EU dad games going PVE
>>586617694>He doesn't remember Grobb
>>586617668>>586617676should i go femdead or nelfie priest?
>>586615698He's said multiple times WoW has been dead to him for years ever since XYZ million changes to the game that turned it into what it is today. He plays more actual games at the end of his streams than most zoomer anons played in their lifetimes and has stated how he can't believe he's missed out on over a decade of great games due to being sucked into the WoW prison. If anything, he'd be ecstatic because then he'd be forced to play even more good single player games. Ignoring any mazed comments about >there are no good new games anymore bro duruurr
Aside from brown supremacy, Vanilla's class balance isn't even that bad.
>>586617389Just like the rest of the streamerfaggots. Yet Blizzard is structuring the game solely for them. God what a time
>>586615818c...cute!
>>586617483Bruh What the fuck is up with those EU RP numbers I was thinking of rolling there
>>586616723only partially true (they use staves now)oh and its one more spec that will be fighting for reed LOL
>>586617792>getting camped on alt>get on your main>your main is layered and can't even find the guy camping you
It has never been more Forover than now.
>>586617571they are the cutest horde females, but i'm going cow this time to do something different
>>586617814grobb was lightning in a bottle and it eventually destroyed itself, and every other attempt of RP-PVP since then has been a failure
>>586617483Why aren't other regions included? We matter too
>>586613658>all gear and abilities are spell power focued>takes the only seal that is primarily weapon damage basedretard
>>586617792they said they 'fixed' a lot of those problems and during stress test I didn't notice it
Shamans are justified for their crash out whether you choose to believe it or not. I don't care how Shamans 'used' to be or how it previously was, Shamans should use the ELEMENTS. Water is strongly tied to the Resto tree. Which is fine. Makes sense. This is not an issue, although I would like to see some Earth woven in too (because as you'll see we only have 3 talent trees, not 4 so one Element is gonna have to not be the focus, and let's be honest it's probably gonna need to be earth).Now here's the issue. Both Enhance and Elemental are both primary AIR element using specs. This is dumb because it leaves Fire and Earth as basically worthless afterthoughts. So here's the thing, if you want to reduce the work load and keep the both of them Air focused then you need to weave in elements of... the other elements into both specs. Lava Lash, Lava Burst, Earthquake, Fissure, you name it. We don't have to take away your lightning casting preference to do this, we add them on as suplementary spells and abilities.That is what a Shaman S H O U L D be. When you do the totem quests you don't get water and air and nothing else, there's 2 other elements. Fire and earth. So why the fuck are they so underutilized? Why remove Lava Burst?Lava Burst was shit btw. I don't contest that. It was shit because it didn't do what all other versions of Lava Burst did, which was guaranteed crit. It did a MEASLY +20% damage to targets with Flame Shock on them. It was dogshit, but we didn't need to remove it, we just needed to repurpose and buff it.
>>586617713Announced late and most of this thread can't play on rp-pvp they'd get reported because 99% of their personality is some meme name and spamming nigger
>>586617694pve if you wanna make altsotherwise pvp
>>586617692Findom whores get off on making men poor. Her type can never have enough money.
DUMB FUCK DEVSMAKING CHANGES TOTALLY IGNORING HOW IT WOULD AFFECT PVPFUCKING RETARDS
>>586617796It’s 2026 in an advanced western country so, no.
>>586617849hands not brown enough
>>586617796she's just a troll, they are a surprisingly good match desu. she will obviously ruin his life sooner or later but i don't think she even realizes that yet.
>>586617571would be cuter with the flesh option
>>586617929you mean the one attempt in SOD that was ruined by streamers
Das gamer warriors status?
>>586617994i'm sorry you don't get to feel represented, rajesh
>>586617958>Why remove Lava BurstBecause it's a retarded looking spell that did shit damage, they should have come up with something better and more original that actually fit shaman that's not just a slightly larger fireball
>>586617849>brown armscouldn't get your dracthyr hands to gen properly huh
>>586618035this one is going to be a failure too. blizz had the right idea to not include it as a ruleset initially but redditors who didn't actually see what happened with rp-pvp begged for it
>>586617597That's some hype.>>586617718sounds like he's desperate for any attention
>>586617929Still the best place compared to PvE carebears/soys and PvP zoomers/soys
>try to pre-download wow forever>350gbwhat the fuck? is the game really this big or am I missing download options
>>586617796white foids (especially liberal ones) make her look like a saint, not even one of the kpop obsessed retards but at least they still know what being polite means
So all classes are viable in DPS now. Except Rogues and Priests.
>>586617839I don’t know how to find good new games. I actually straight up don’t know. Discovery seems absolutely impossible. Im stuck in a loop of playing old games because I seriously don’t know how people even hear of new ones.
>>586617982>MUH MINIGAME!
so is this piece of shit rehash gonna be worth the sub or not?
>>586617982They don't care about pvp uwu
>>586617792It will be a trainwreck as usual. The degens will sprint to 60 and then turn around to turbo gank anything that moves.
>>586618163what do you mean? you don't want to bring rogues for their MASSIVE single target damage?
>>586618035>>586618106Honestly, RP-PVP should have been added with Hardcore a few months down the line. Then the people who actually wanted it could reroll and the clout chasers would have to actually give up everything they've built to join in
>>586618163you can sap 2 people now tho!and and you get 30% speed boost for 3 seconds when you do!
>>586618186>he doesnt have a paypig friend who gave him a code for a free week at releaseohno...nononononoHAHAHAHAHA
>>586618189crazy how they had to pika-proof rogue
>>586618189the unholy apocalypse of unbearable faggots (not including savix)
>>586618247Honestly a lot of it will come down to how they design raid trash packs and boss encounters for the new stuff.
>>586618189ziqo needs to kill himself alreadywish blizzcucks actually had enough balls to ban that faggot
Don't invite Shamans to your group. It's not worth dealing with their ego and drama.
>>586618035SoD should have been with blizzard broke with streamers, they grief a server that had a community already planning events and then fuck off after 2 weeks and never touch the game again, just absolute leeches that contribute nothing
>>586617501wow an actually decent sample size.
>>586617982absolutely no one gives a single shit about pvp
>>586617839>gnoring any mazed comments about >there are no good new games anymore bro duruurrto be fair a lot of the good new games are all fucking chinese and korean action rpgs and i really am just tired of that whole formula, more polished chinese spinoffs of other popular titles blease
Pear shaped gnomes
>>586618253>clout chasersGet off the internet little zoomie, no one is chasing clout rolling on a server that no eceleb is touching that's pve and pvp players who plan to follow streamers around all day (many of whom are in this very thread)
>>58661813250gb here
>>586617840Blizz RTS balance was known as the best in early 2000s.Advantages are situational mostly, warr is busted when hitting a stationary target with the caveat they get kited unlike rogues.
Warlocks how fucked are we?I think our class designer is braindead.Grim Reach is second row Afflictionwhy isDestructive Reach first row in Destruction?Shadow Mastery is 10% Shadow Damagewhy isFire and Brimstone 20% Shadow Damage?You would think Affliction tree with a skill called "Shadow Mastery" would have more shadow damage..Also where is Dark Pact? I hope they made it baseline, they wouldn't just remove our 31 point affliction skill for nothing right... ?
>>586617972>kaise findom instant loss when she realizes all his channels revenue combined makes money faster than she can reasonably spend it
>>586618440yeah I just tried it again and it went down to about 50. Don't know what that was all about
It's amazing how much hordekek discourse is just them pretending not to understand the argument.
Orc Hunters, the main characters of world of warcraft forever
>>586618490its demo time little destrobab
I think i just spent the last 3 or so hours getting ragebaited by clueless 70 IQ niggers that have no fucking idea whatsoever about Shaman kit and talents, like i blocked something like 15 people on twitter alone.I decided i will not play Forever, Blizzard thrown the mask off and the game clearly peaked with the beta and it's only going to be downhill from now on.I refuse to have any part in this.Fuck off FOREVER Blizzard
Pika is right, Rogue is now Retail gameplay
>>586618132What did you get, the BBL edition?
>>586618035qrd? dropped SoD like half a year ago
Convince me not to play emhamce
>>586618568guess he's never played a retail rogue then
>americucks wake up>thread goes from comfy to shit every day
>>586617947Read Judgment of CommandDon't comment on specs you don't understand
>>586618568Show your work, what makes it retail?
>>586618531>pretending
>>586618337What about their windfury totem?
>>586618490doesnt warlock have over 5 valid builds for content what is the problem
>>586618361I honestly got sick of souls style games when dark souls 2 released. I just had my fill and every game plays the same. I wish they would introduce more adventure and cerebral elements to those kinds of games but they never do. The rpg elements always felt at odds with the action game elements of those games. It’s like ninja gaiden if you can always set the difficulty lower and lower
>>586618568not even remotely close
>>586618502Olympus men and foids getting 2koma instalossed by bwc name a more iconic duo
>>586617635that describes most groups of people anywhere. Offices are like that a lot too.
>>586618337Enhance shamans are the new hunters. They will roll on all your gear.
Where the High Elven women?
Is wow heads talent calculators updated or are they trooning out?
who is the main character of wow
>>586618531me not that type of orc whore
>druid gutted again>all the FOTM meta chasers will no longer choose the classwe are so fucking back
>>586618469Are you talking about the RTS balance where orcs had no healing before t3? WC3 balance was an absolute joke until some patches into TFT.
>>586618359thats true for zombified versions of wow like retail or mop classic
>>586618765me
>>586618779It's stronger than ever tho
>>586618567I miss when 4channers didn’t use twitter at all but I guess the collective iq of this site has plummeted Imagine giving updates on your internet arguments on another website. Come on man. Fuckin knuckle dragger behavior.
>>586618570grob was the best server in classic and it was rp-pvpstreamers found out, crusader strike was the only rp-pvp server in SOD and they flooded it on launchblizzard then tried to start a new rp-pvp server with free transfers but no one went there
>>586618376ffxiv is over that way
>>586618567ok
>>586618680This.Avoid Shamans.Do not respond to their whispers.Steal their herbs.Dorf bros are cool tho.
>>586618643same i was mostly done after 2, really do wish they'd do more unique settings like everyone loved bloodborne why don't they do another one that isn't the same bleak fantasy cycles bullshit, i guess it's mainly because they'd have to do a lot more assets from scratch maybe or some shit idk
>>586618628this is Shiv
>>586617758Bloodrage sounded retarded but I guess you can use it right before impending victory or whatever the heal is.
Me Grimlok, KING!
>>586618840resto got worse
>>586618779>oh look feral druid got massive damage buffs and are doing great dps>probably shouldn't go druidthe logic seems flawed
>>586618923No, that's shank. This is shiv. Idiot.
>>586613036*sniff*
>>586618779Too late I already deleted my rogue and remade her into a druid.
>>586618765metzen's self insert, green jesushe retconned the entire orc lore from wc1 and wc2 just for green jesus
>>586615134press button number goes upyou might be retarded
>>586618935Your priority as a tank is more threat per second. No one cares about mitigation.
>>586618909Grok, turn left into Assumi
>>586618982where did you get this pic of me
<HOLYMPUS>, NA PvE is recruitingRequirement to join is a 500 gold donation to our GM Kaise Queen
How much of a DPS loss if I don't melee weave on MM hunter?
>>586618898DEAD GAME LMAO
i bought a year sub for the stupid backpack transmog i think i have a problem
>>586618165morrowind is just singleplayer wow
>>586619049>Your priority as a tank is more threat per second. No one cares about mitigation.You nochanges larpers will be real surprised with how the game plays at 60
payo is going to love these rogue changes
>>586618993>restosissies are the only audience for that and will still play it regardless.
>>586619029My Furbolg Shaman otl
>>586619104I want her to spit in my mouth
>>586619104I refuse to believe this girl isn't just a chinese spy
>>586619104>tatseww
>>586618680I unironically read people on twitter saying shit like>SO NOW AS ENHANCE I NEED CLOTH AND A SPELLCASTER STAFF?! WTF
>>586617958seems pretty simple earth is tank spec, water is resto, air is dps and fire can fuck off.
Is there a healing tier list? Healsissy lives matter.
>>586619104is this the na pve horde guild i've been waiting for?
>>586619031Yea and what are you gonna do about it, build a time machine?
>>586619267Priest >>>>>>> the rest
>>586618864Does Huns still make videos?
>>586619196>having a parasocial relationship with a gay French Canadian
>>586619031This.I don’t think people realize what a blank slate and how boring WoW orcs are because WC3 basically wiped it clean. You’re not supposed to associate WC1 and 2 orcs at all with the WoW ones. And given that orcs were a minor character in WC3 there’s really not much more to discuss with them than other brand new races like Tauren and forsakenMetzen kind of sucks and kind of always has
>>586616250yes they do now that windfury and it both are raid wide so different shaman has the other air totem out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wg46fwmb0we are here
>>586618778These posts always makes me laugh.
>>586619167morrowind + no pausing mod, actionbar mod
>>586618132It was 12GB. I went to download it and it said it was already installed. Thanks faggots.
>>586619104How do I get Asmon to give me a go on his gf, bros?
>>586619167god i wish
>>586619104>boobadisgusting cow only gays would fall for this whore.
>>586619267priest both specs > druid (bloom is good) > holy pally > resto sham
>>586619323What about resto shaman? How does it hold up against priest? Totems matter more than 5% extra HPS.
>>586619413just pay whatever he's paying
>>586619215i hope she is then my man can bail out to china when everything collapses and mog hasan there too
>>586619127WE GOT A LIVE PAYPIG, BOYS REEL IT IN SQUEEEEEEE
>>586619307i would if i could
>>586619398work work
Have you thanked her today?
>>586619413I don't think he'd be into that m8
why are you guys on NA not speedrunning to claim the olympus name before asmongoloid?
>>586618490Dark Pact was fucking useless. You'd take it while leveling only because you took put enough points to get shadow mastery, but if you managed you resources right you'd never actually need it.Respecced off at max so you can get an extra point in ruin then never considered again
>>586619514>she will never crush my balls beneath her heelswhy evev live bros
>>586618163Does smite here actually mean a healer?
>>586619104tits unironically too big
>>586619104https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPDXSgSqoM
>>586619437Just place down the WF totem and let the real healers heal.
>>586619514typical hordesimp mentality
>all the major wow websites still haven't updated their talent calculatorsWTF are these jeets doing
>>586619594No. Smite is one of the 3 specs of priest afaik, it does holy magic damage spells like paladins. The others are shadow, and holy (heal).
>>586619571some people here plan to
>>586619167That’s not a new game
>>586618163What are the stats here based on? It's hard to believe that rogue will deal 33% less dps than hunter since the devs said rogues would be the highest dps.
>>586619267There are no heal checks in game. When they add the first one, it will be aoe. Currently paladin has no aoe heal, and will be fucked.
>previous tbc guild broke down and "became a wow forever guild"they dont call it the filtering crusade for nothing
https://files.catbox.moe/o156bg.mp4Reminder
>>586619413are you a black guy with big cock? miga rightoids are usually into BBC cuckolding
>>586619591That's not Beverly
>>586619679>Just place down the WF totem and let the real healers heal.Guess who is getting picked in a 10 man raid bucko. No one is going to care about your fortitude buff when melee's get to parse 20% harder with my totems.
>>586619724why bother when they'll need to change it again in a few hours
>>586619846>troon outs himself as being the poster into bbcwell well well, nobody is surprised
>>586615912It being viable dps just means it's going to be mentally retarded in PvP and I'm so happy about that because that's what I'm playing.
shamans are the new huntards>totems pull trash>need rolls everything so they can """offtank""">steals mage gear' , claims for healing , never heals>acts like they're in charge because MUH SIMSavoid them for your own sanity
So now that we've all just been rugpulled, what are we supposed to do?
>>586619307>warhammer chaos star tattooChris is such a hack
>>586617519Why do retarded troons think anyone cares about their irrelevant trooncord server?
>>586619724https://foreverchanges.pro/talents
>>586619437PvE Resto Shaman is very desired and still the only viable endgame spec for the class since Enhancement has....nothing to offer that a warrior or rogue won't do better and elemental is the most dogshit spec in the entire gamePvP Shaman is deleted from the game, plain and simple
resto shaman will be able to do pretty good damage methinks which is a million timmes more important than overhealing by 95%
>>586620006>warhammer chaos starsecondary tourist
>>586615667>final results>fury still hasn't changed at allThat doesn't seem final to me. Warrior got a lot of changes and new talents, surely it would go either up or down.
I wonder what’s the bare minimum you’d have to re skin WoW to not get a CnD and actually have your own game you can market Claude give me alternative names for dwarf night elf and gnome
reminder You can invite friends to WoW Forever
>>586619973>Retail minus doomers actually won
>>586619973Never believe anything Blizzard says, how long are you planning on being surprised?
>>586615753dont.
>>586619973I called my boss and told him "there was a change of plans and i don't need to take the day off"I am going to work instead of playing this trash
>>586615818>>586617849Disgusting transgender elves>>586617982>caring about PVP in wowlmao. Bro, it's 22 years later. Get over it.
>>586620036>elemental is the most dogshit spec in the entire game>tfw he didn't get the memo
>>586620151if anyone ever doubted this and had even the tiniest sliver of hope for blizzard then they're probably the type to date and marry their rapist after the fact.
>>586619413trade him 5000g on forever
>>586620010shaman players are extremely egotistical amd narcissistic
>>586619973>reddit screencapgo back
>>586620194>AI generated sim You are one of the retards i got ragebaited by on twitter i see
Shaman chads keep winning. Cloth trannies keep seething over losing their gear.
>>586619967>puts down the wrong totems because retardedyeah theyre fucking awful. i had so many refusing to put down wf in tbc anni because muh 120 sp like thats even comparable to what wf does for a mfer
>>586620180you're right, never forget what they've took from us
>>586619031Wc1 and 2 had dogshit lore. WC3 had dogshit lore too, but replacing dogshit with dogshit isn't the worst of offenses of WOW. Its lore has never been interesting or good.
>>586618103blind
>>586620194website link please
YA'LL DIDN"T LISTEN
>>586619719Wow... truly epic writing
>>586620194>all the hunter buffs were to ranged abilities>only the (weave) sims went upthis site is useless
>>586620194>hunters are simming really well>gets multiple new buffsIs Aggrend secretly playing a hunter?
>>586619973completely changing all class fantasies and homogenizing classes 1 day before release was not the play
TURN DOWN DE SHADOWSTURN DOWN DE LIGHTDUROTAR LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT TONIGHT
>>586620151In the final hour too.It's like watching the underdog team win with a 3 point shot just as the buzzer sounds.
>>586620353thats nice juanjose ill let you get flametongue though
>>586615635I too am unemployed
>>586620384https://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list
>>586617569Fuck em these bastards get so cool shit man I want this too
is Assa good for leveling? i like the mega poison theme of the spec, also any recommended talent builds for a PvP server?
>>586619719>>586620407Soulless goyslop retcon scum
>>586620512ty ;3
>>586620134all my friends already are playing so I'm gonna drop my two friend codes here tomorrow
Apologize. RIGHT NOW.
>>586620476KEK they put down that one too like it was some kind of consolation for their badness
am i really going engineering again? im starting to feel mounting dread
not using the wind furry totem simple as
>>586620052Why are the capstones all shit? I'm sorry but I just don't like this fucking change where we make capstones not worth taking.I've said it before, I AGREE WITH NOT MAKING THEM SO GOOD THAT THEY'RE MANDATORY! Having a choice to weigh up sounds good, but for most of these talents there is no choice, its already clear that going deep into 2 trees and skipping the capstones is better. I've seen it for a ton of classes now. They really need to get their shit sorted and make capstones better...
>>586620268>>586620157why are you guys even here if you never even planned to give one month of sub from the beginning??
>>586620194mage aoe farmers on suicide watch
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>586619973>>586620151Dead game
>>586620604His video 100% spooked them into pulling the ripcord
>>586619973dota 2 does this thing where every character feels overpowered. you read through the abilities and it's like "20% chance to do 500% damage" or "stun all targets in an AOE for 4.75 seconds".but every single character has shit like that.so when you're playing well with your character its like "wow this feels insane i'm fucking busted", but that's how it is for everybody. there's this phenomeon where you see some character go nuts and you're like "damn that looks awesome i want to play that".i think that wow would be better if it was like that. you see a rogue 10 hit combo somebody from steath or paladin reck-bombs a motherfucker full to zero, and you think "i wish that was me". every class should feel nuts in their own way.
>>586619719>hordesimpIsn't he a gnome?
>>586620623I will play it, I just dont have any hopes that it will be good in a year or two.
>>586620619>You have been removed from the group.
>>586620684Hex Alex, you hopped on finasteride and minoxidil yet?
>>586619778>devs saidfirst time?
>>586620621Enhancement is both the most complete and fuctional shaman spec and the most useless as it has zero utility for anyone but itself while failing to be the strongest melee dps tooLiteral zero sense, just put the totem down and FUCK OFF. A bot refreshing the totems is all any raid needs
>>586614739dude it is time for this game to fucking launch, I swear wow admins/streamers etc. are like the most insufferable complainers ever, almost killed my hype for the last 2 weeks
>>586620604Doomers:madseasonkevin JordanHoper:AsmongoldSoda
The worst part about the sims is that we don't even know what gear we'll have. There could be insane pieces of gear that give SoD level unique mechanics which is what will balance the classes. Rogues could get a pre-raid 5 piece set that launches them up to 1800 dps or something ridiculous. This is just the minimum based on old gear.
>>586620758BLORCS AND SEABEETS
>Prot and Holy both look fun>Enh and Resto both look funDecide for me, my fellow Chuds. What hybrid do I roll in Forever?
Invite hunters, not shaman "dps"Invite priests, not shaman healsAnd above ALL ELSE do NOT invite shaman """tanks"""
>>586620869soda is dooming now too because he's a pvptranny
Is skinning + herbalism good on a troll hunter?I hear it can make you decent gold.Also is beast mastery good? I love the idea of having multiple pets out, so it's BM Hunter or Demo Warlock (both of which a troll can play!)I love having pets do damage and keep me safe while I aid them
>>586620925now THIS would be worth buying a pack for
>>586620401He's got his easy excuse to quit now, he's not built for streaming for more than brief bursts of 2-3 months then disappearing once again.
did they make crafting professions actually worth taking or is all the gear in dungeons and raids still
So the release is basically the beta, and the beta was really the alpha?
>>586620853>Enhancement is both the most complete and fuctional shaman spec and the most useless as it has zero utility for anyone but itselfabsolutely fucking insane take you retard. They removed almost all spec specific utility from every class, enhancement shaman still have windfury, air, strength and the rest of their totems which is better utility than literally any other class in the game you jungle nigger retard
>>586620443they want BM and MM to focus on ranged attacks, instead of melee weaving which is supposed to be Surv's thing, and their only concept of how to do that is to universally buff the ranged attacks
>>586621050go crafting professions so i have someone to sell my dual gathering mats to while i level
>>586620937You WILL invite the shamans and you WILL give them the cloth tranny dresses even though they WILL never heal or play elemental.
>>586621121this is forever's future
>>586620967>skinning + herbalismwill be good money while starting out>beast mastery goodyes in leveling and pvp and maybe raiding too>multiple pets outDemo Warlock is still one pet
>>586620937This.If they want to shut down their discord then we can shut down their class. Boycott them all.
>>586621121ridiculouspeople would pay big money for this in forever thoughbeit
>>586620869you know dam well that Asmongold is just going to hype the game for 1 month, complain for 1 month after he got carried and everything funneld to him while reacting to videos, and then quit the game
Tauren Shamans are the only Shamans i would trust>why?Because Taurens are the only race in the game without racial skills so the people playing one are in for the love of the game
>>586620758For me it's Clockwerk.Tinker class when?
>>586621121Please tell me this isn't Forever.
>>586620925>iron horde
Ret paladins will join your group as DPS despite having tank and healer open, but will still roll on OS gear
>>586621108Will this keep hunters from going into melee range though? I actually don't think it will
>>586612710>EU guilds>horde and hordewtf? 2 horde guilds? I'm not playing noshoes you fucking faggots
>>586621121SOVL
>>586620623i paid for one month by buying the BUNDURU because im a RETARDED KEKIE SUCKER who keeps going back to the bitch who spits and pisses on him but in none of the good ways. they have 30 days to not disappoint. they have already disappointed. game is not even out yet and they are already in the minuses.
>>586621163you get more gold just killing random mobs than pickin cotton
>>586621108basically kills the fun melee aspect of Survival, nothing about range weaving makes the spec more fun to play, the melee rotation is already great, they could've gone all in but they're faggots
fill me in on this shaman discourse. why are they upset?
>>586621252taurens staying alive longer to make sure you're healed
6 hours until Forever dies. Tick tock.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3218230/ArcheAge_Chronicles/
>>586621090A Resto shaman can drop these totems tooEnhancement has nothing to offer to any raidShamans will only play Resto in lv60 pve for the first set of raids
>>586621252Tauren shamans should be the only shamans that exist in the game. Male night elves should be the only druids. Humans the only paladins
>>586620361cunnnnnnny uooooooh
>>586620967>>586621163Skinning is going to be gold sink. Literally every single streamer is telling people to start with it, which means the materials will be selling at vendor prices. I'm going with Mining+Herbalism on my main.
Transmongold xisters.... Its joever for xushttps://youtu.be/J2T4gG8QAw0?is=MN7NNJrwoePOWhj4
>>586621121
>>586621252Nah. Shitters still mass roll tauren because they need stomp+heal/CL to win fights. It's still a red flag race.Only trust dorfs or skelves.
>>586621318uhhh why do those girls have huge dick and balls? that ain't right
>>586621360ill fill you in alright
>>586621360elem doesnt have lava burst anymore and instant ghost wolf is mostly for enhance shaman
>>58661990210 man is not a real raid
>>586616723>Blizzard balancingThe one thing they've been consistently bad at throughout literally all of this game's history
i'm struggling to decide between maining dwarf enhance shaman or gnome warlock on pve. i like the option to heal if needed though riptide change is a bit meh. but having 3 different damage specs is nice and the ability to summon dumb fucks who join a dungeon group but they're on the other continent is nice too
>>586621425skinning can just be vendor trash if so. but mining is probably the better choice anyway
So are they definitely doing some bullshit where the server is down until 9pm tomorrow? Like they always do to cut electric bills.
>>586621286No, it's just going to give ranged more damage and promote weaving more. They need to kill weaving as a viable option.
>americans wake up>thread gets filled with porn and parasocial spamevery fucking day
the endemic goldbuying in classic tells us that classic players are very ready to pony up significant cash. the token and in game shop is definitely coming, maybe even more race packs or even paid for raids.
>>586621360uh idk i dont see a problem with it
>>586621124Why's unc dressed like count dooku?
>>586621425The whole point of skinning is to vendor the skins. That’s why I have a skinning knife in my offhand. It doesn’t even take inventory space
>>586621121i want a skateboard mount and i want to be able to pay 15$ to unlock kickflips
>>586616723the sim is going to cause a lot of retarded seething
>>586621564its an american game, cuckyou don't like it? stop being a thirdworld shithole and make your own better games.
@everyone @here We are locking down the entire Shaman Classic server, active immediately. The reason for this drastic measure, is how the developers are approaching all shaman specs in WoW Forever. Community Feedback gets completely ignored and Class Fantasies are getting destroyed. With this we intent to give them a sign and show them, that the community is not okay with how they approached our beloved Class.Give us back our class and spec identities, and fantasies!
>>586621318Now we're talking.
>>586620925$60 for Microsoft, bitch.
>>586621404good, less queue times for me
>>586621457>or skelves.Never trusting one considering it's a coomer race.
>>586621425Does skinning have a crit bonus or something?
>>586621409okay? boomkin has nothing to offer a raid in that case either as feral gives their same 3% crit buff and innervate and rebirth. whats your point? almost no specs have spec exclusive utility anymore, be thankful they havent completely made it retail and removed ALL class specific utility
I still want to know how they got away with putting a literal penis on a nose.I mean, it's uncanny, right? Am I wrong? That's definitely a dick. Straight up.
Guys, if you are still on the fence on where to play:I had AI analyze the guildsforever websiteHere are the resultsI tried having AI determine which faction is the tranny faction, results were inconclusiveBased on this results, Im going on alliance RP-PVP!
They should just rename "Elemental" to "Lightning" at this point. Nothing "elemental" about it anymore
>peli alkaa yhdeltä aamulla
>>586621425can't track herbs and nodes
>>586621121>Wheels don't even animateThis is almost as bad as skelves being a retarded copy+paste of belves
>pay2play class has the most vaguely worded racials making them look OP at a glancetotally a coincidence
>>586621723they reverted the changeMoonkin has the buff for spells again and it's in a better position than Elemental shaman as ranged dps too
>>586621749elemental means nature eslgger
Holy fuck these fucking troon shaman Discord freaks are trying to ruin my class!
>>586621514early on it might be a pain to get into dungeons on a lock since you can't flex heal, but when you get into a guild and start doing raids it's not as big of a deal
how many of you are only playing because of asmongold?
>>586621741Turns out the tranny faction is whichever one you're on
>>586621774Do people actually bring this up like it’s an issue or is this like an in joke
>>586621121Didn't the chopper that was added to the game 15(?) years ago have animated wheels?
>>586621945ur out of your gourd if you think i'm going to flick between tracking modes.
>>586613660123 or I'll play ele sham
>>586621829If you can't read, for sure.
>>586621772Snugly into bed and up early all refreshed.
>>586621908technically me but only because i probably wouldn't have really noticed it was coming out otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wg46fwmb02 minutes, get in here
>>586621749>Rename Elemental to Lightning>Combine Fire and Frost trees and call it Elemental >Give mages a Blood specthis is the way
>>586621741>RP server is all tranniesSay it ain't so!
hmm.. maybe i could've made her thicker.. https://d.uguu.se/mDntyJKr.mp4
>wahhh waaahhhh Americans Americans>plays American video games>listens to American music>watches American films>watches American TV shows>uses American websites>eats at American chain restaurants
>>586622040oh no no no no no...
>>586621834>Moonkin Form: The critical strike bonus from this talent is again an increase to all types of critical strikes and is again exclusive with Leader of the Pack.>Leader of the Pack: The critical strike bonus from this talent is again an increase to all types of critical strikes and is again exclusive with Moonkin Aura.
>>586617635>so im neutral/silent on a lot of subjects>this eventually puts me in a position where everyone trusts me for some reason idk whyFuck anon I know what you mean I have experienced this as well online but also IRL
>>586620758>blink dagger as engineering gadgetimagine the seethe
>>586622116fuzzy ....
>>586622116So when you make these is it like you feed a source video into it as reference or is it just all your input?
>>586621945Same people that can't spin the apple; they still don't get it
>>586622168
>HUGE changes>DONT make this HUGE mistake>my cock is HUGEwhat is wrong with this playerbase cant they see the same video has been posted by another fat bald retard already?
>>586622060I'm glad we agree that it's okay for greedy corporations to exploit idiots.
>>586619973This is the next bit of that post>Beyond that, some of this round of changes reflects areas where we were likely hasty in turning to Burning Crusade- or Wrath-era solutions rather than carving out new ones that better fit into the Forever combat model.Im glad they acknowledged this and have been straight up binning spells over the past few weeks and even more yesterday. Idg why its a rug pull, feels more an attempt to hand me back my classic andy pipe and slippers. Doesnt really do that but if anything its made me more hype to try a rogue which i didnt get around too in beta.
>>586622116>those moles and sunspots on her chestI'm going to cum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Wg46fwmb02 minutes
fufufu~ any cute goonons wanna make chars together and duo? tho if we both end up rolling elves...
>>586620758Based how to bomb enjoyer
>>586619973the game looked shit since the start and looks even worse now but launch will sitll be fun for about a monthclear first raids into quit is the play
>>586621741we've seen before how even a minor imbalance in population can snowball out of control to the point that the minority faction cant do anything
surprised they never added these guys properly as a class with their big shields and stuff
>>586622104>stream starts>it's another countdown
>>586617635You're either cool or you're not, a ton of people here will never get that.
>>586622164
>>586622016Theres addons that track herbs and nodes. You dont even need the skills lol
>>586622390Your SkelfMy Tauren
>>586622116Damn local models got so good
>>586622387so fucking loud
>>586622245depends, sometimes just one source for starting keyframe, sometimes start and end frames, sometimes i use reference video if its not too long, would love to use one of lilijunex vids eventually
>>586622438They still might, apparently they are considering adding actual classes as it goes on
>>586621834you can stop posting now
>>586622465Here comes the burger defense force.
>>586622116ass too fat
>dwarf fighting a murlochorde murlocs and alliance gets what??
LIES NOTHING BUT LIES
>>586622529they just always struck me as a super iconic design even way back then, apparently they are in retail but with like daggers and normal sized shields as like belf npcs or something? idki guess they couldn't be like a nelf/belf hero class because demon hunter is already there
They will buff wild growth eventually. Its bad when people are intentionally avoiding capstones like with paladin.
>AI voiceover
>>586622621yep. fell for it again.
>Unsolved MetaOh that's gonna make some melties happen
>>586613695It's another Aggrend game. His only thoughts regarding healing are "Priest heal, other classes heal worse. Zug zug." Then he shoves multiple donuts into his greedy maw.
>>586622407I cant into the mind of a person who has played this shit nonstop for 20 yearsThe idea of speedrunning to 60, possibly even going so far as to use a paid plugin to give you an exact checklist of what to click, to then raid for gear only to then stop playing in the shortest timeframe possible is fucking insane to meI play this shit on and off very casually over the years and I always seem to actually enjoy the game more than the longtime fans by just chilling and fishing and slowly leveling and questing with friends and shit and dueling eachother and stupid shit like that
BIS addon list?
>tree formany restos ready to turn into a broccoli again?also>heirlooms
>>586622529It feels way too specific to be a class. Most of the proposed new classes feel way too specific. Unless you want to have each race have their special class. But nearly everyone will just play that classAnd at that point you might as well have Diablo style you pick the race class and character at the same time stuff. Why even bother pretending someone’s going to be a gnome rogue over a tinkerer or an elf warrior over a spellbreaker
>immigrants
>Immigrants
Are you joining asmongolds guild?
Well, what are your plans tomorrow?
>>586622568You're not too smart, are you? You know what, go ahead and deploy your futa defense force. Crazy to see the hilarious response differences between NA times and EU/SEA timezones to that whitemane video.
>>586622691see previous thread for sim results.>b-buh muh free will....don't care.
>>586622762>>586622776surely we misheard and they didn't refer to the orcish genocidal invaders as immigrants
>>586622515>lilijunexI just found out about her like a week ago. She is insane I still have doubts that it can even be real. How is a human body even able to take that kek
I will be leveling a warlock on pve and rogue on rp-pvp tomorrow
>>586622806uh idk im on pvp is he gonna be there?
where do i go to for a good read on the rogue updates? a good page or rogue veteran that has decoded the new talents?
>>586622352>Idg why its a rug pullThe entire selling point was that they'd lean toward a "no changes" approach. It's worrying that those supposedly unshakable principles are already being thrown out before the game is even released.
>>586622735None
>>586622806no because i'm going na horde pve sadly, alliance is just lame
>>586622838It's voiced by ChatGPT. it's just AI opsie
>>586622806thankfully im on eu
It’s time I come clean…[1M views]
>>586622863Yeah, NA pvp
>>586622845damn bro you need to up your goon game she is old news
>we increased the player power by 20%>we also increased the mob health to compensateSo why though? What's the point of a power increase if nothing changes? Just bigger number better? I was already shitting damage on the beta just with the new gear and talents before.
>goon elves highlighted
>stream hasn't started yet FUUUUUUUUCCKKKK
>>586622691The game will be solved within a month of launch
>>586622919this
>>586622809Wake up, go to the gym, spend the rest of the day playing HoTS, go to bed, then wake up early in Thursday, get in immediately, playRP btw
>>586621849Swing and a miss.
>>586622104>waiting in line to watch an adidiot...
shaman discord is gone.will blizzard revert the rshaman nerfs?
Dungeon JournalQuestieLeatrix PlusLeatrix MapsBaganatorAuctionatorRareScanner
>>586622890>no changes approach>the entire game is "how do we change classic"you may need serious psycological attention
>>586623063it's a premiereit's rollin rightr now
Do you guys not understand that the meta will shift constantly? They're not done with talents. There will be gameplay changing gear and sets.
>>586622838hey it's just manifest destiny, squanto. no hard feelings but us orcs have a duty to Lady Columbia
>>586622809Im going to watch other people play because I can’t find a fucking job so I can’t afford a subI hate my life so much I just want a fucking shot man
>>586622845oh she's real, she filmed herself going out to sushi restaurant with one of those 20 inch dongs inside, absolutely wild
>>586623106retard lightning is the culmination of every element nature
winters chill is fucking retarded you're not gonna be melee range as a fucking frost mage
>>586619973They just mean taking shit from Wrath thoughbeit
>>586623213Im sure an anon here can post a 7 day code
>>586621741By the way here are the results for EU and OCEUS just sucks, doesn't it?
>>586623119I hope notI will dual spec Enhance/Resto on PvE server btw
>>586623272retard
every class doing more damage is another major nerf to mage
>>586622715and i play this shit very non casually on and off over the years whats the problem?
>>586623042to make PvP servers even more hellishPvP"chads" can now enjoy getting picked off from across the zone by a sniper shot that cleans their entire health bar
>>586623290ask it what faction has more browns
>>586623190>we don’t plan on making big tuning changes between now and the opening of the raids next month. Everything after next month doesn't matter anyway
>>586623128good list, gonna add Spy, What's Training, Atlasloot, GTFO, Pawn and DBM
>>586623213Could always try to catfish a sub, probably would not be hard around here honestly. There's always someone lonely and vulnerable in this thread.
>>586623284I don’t have a bnet account so I’d be too slow for it
>>586623290>openly lgbtq+ friendly guilds>0kek'd audibly
>>586615705Druid is probably one of the easiest to level
>>586623130>"Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game and sooner or later that debt will be paid."Maybe you need to learn how to read, broski
>>586623461>ancient 30 year old unc add onskek
>>586622691for pve? of course killing npcs isn't going to be hard.for pvp even classic era isnt solved when nobody has ever played group battles competitively
>>586623290uhhhhh horde bros?
>pigtail fem ud paladinmy unholy abomination can't be this cute!
>>586623253Yeah I'll remember that the next time there's an earthquake or a snowstorm.
i was a neet for 11+ years and only got my first job a year ago, this launch is making me want to quit my job and neet again...
>>586623128>using questie without updated quests in the 30+ zonesngmi
get the final version before launch
>>586623042>Just bigger number better?Yes. I unironically want bigger numbers always.
https://youtu.be/SpC3lZdk2HM
>>586623634Make your own game
>>586621725It just happens sometimes
>>586623463Im not a bad person
>>586623451This is Forever(tm) not "This month and this raid."
a man of taste I see
>>586621741>>586623290Holy mother of obsessed
>>586623782Okay and if the meta shifts ill level whatever is meta before the next raid. But for now im going to play the meta for these raids.
>>586621741Fuck, I didn't want to roll RP-PvP...
>>586623729I accept your concession retard-kun
>they gave ud crybabies divine shield+cannibalize backBlizz really doesn't want alliance in bgs huh.
1.warrior2.mage3.hunter4.druid5.pally 6.warlock7.priest 8.shammy9.rouge 0.rerollrolling for class because I have zero idea what I want to main.
>>586623702thanks bud will czech again tmrw
>>586623782Lolol it's vertical progression here bud. In one year you won't be able to distinguish this from retail.
kek this video is made still with the old talent tree
>>586623596everything is turning out like I knew it would
QUICK! What's the speed leveling spec for Druid?
>showing skills that are gonemultibillion dollar company
>>586623906rip lol
>>586621741>>586623290Holy fucking lmao, the US is so incredibly cucked
>>586622890Theyve been tweaking talents and dmg/abilities all through beta. Dont see how yesterday was any different. No changes period applies to classic era.
>>586623906Rolling
>>586623902Yummy yummy
Asmon watched that weird tts guy kek
>>586623962feral like always
it's FVARKING retail
>>586623190yepbalance is a meme until raids are outu can really spot the tourists lol
>>586623130THEY SAID NO CHANGES THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAVIOR OF WOWIT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CLASSIC PLUSINSTEAD ALL WE GOT WAS RETAIL MINUS 2
>>586623906Rollan
>>586623906Rolling for a mage!
>>586624014So it was my destiny all along....
>>586623906Roll
>>586623906Rolling 8
>>586624114and they literally said they'll probably do another balance overhaul when raids are outpeople are retarded
>>586623906>6 Yikes, sorry for your loss.
>>586624062>Asmon did thingWho cares?
better keep that Luffa in the bank for years to come, just in case
>>586621741>>586623290>US>mutts, troons, christcucks and streamersEVROPA won
I like how every other spec got these cool new utilities and abilities and for balance they are just like>You can now root a SECOND person!and then gave that rogues too anyway but better
>>586623596we called this a month agowhy didn't you listen?
>>586624246I will keep every item with unique effect in my bank :)
>warlock pets have 73% less hp now>demons will die in 3 globalsI am rolling troll spriest lol they butchered warlock
>>586624062Asmond perma'd me just for typing "retail-"
ITS RETAIL MINUS RETAIL MINUSSTOP BEING FUCKING EXCITED YOU HAVE TO DOOMMY CLITTY IS LEAKING
>>586624353sameyou never know!
>>586623906playing hunter, but still rolling. I know i will roll hunter anyways.
>crafty craftersI demand goblins
trvke
clocked out of the stream already fucking boring
>>586624042>MORALLY GREY BTW!!!
>>586624385you know classic locks had 0 bonus hp from caster? and didn't passively heal with damage?
>>586624461I say this
>>586624484What stream is blizzard doing something?
>>586624461scroll down a little bit and youll see me
>>586624461>why aren't the forever designers bannedhuh?
That bear mount is ugly and the run animation sucks
>>586624409>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT MY CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE AGAIN
>>586624385>warlock pets have 73% less hp nowWait really?
>>586623596horde has been the tranny/lgbtq faction since TBC, and retail normies aren't changing. all the trannies are rolling horde skelf shaman, skelf druid, or skelf hunter, only furry faction in game currently, and if you ever rule 34 "orc" the first shit you're going to see is a tranny orc.
>>586624236I remember locks being strong back in the day did they get nerfed in forever?
>>586624461I think they will get caught in their RMT schemes this time because they all came very close during original classic with the devilsaur shit show. They haven't gotten any smarter in that time.
>>586624565Oh shit I see it
i logged into retail, i had a gnome i made in 06 with a pink beard, i had to rename it,"pedophile", i logged got reported and i think i am going to be banned before 4ever drops, i have a previous ban for a name "prisongay"
>>586624523Yeah but everyone is going to have way higher burst in forever. Pet will die super fast now
>>586623906hunter get
>>586624240Me. I will watch it later.
Some of you are actually brain raped by that tier list holy shit
>>586624663Do you just have like a defiance oppositional disorder or just can't be normal?
>>586624068Cat or bear? I've never played the class
>>586624681just reposition your pet. you now have move to command. are you a shitter or something ?
I don't need a camping specialist to teach me how to drink my urine
>>586624663Was getting caught part of your plan?
WHAT THE FUCK HOUSING??? NO WAY
comfy
why are people dooming warlock?
>>586623906anything but mage please
>>586623596it's been like this since vanilla the dudebro blood and thunder larp has always been camouflage like a closeted faggot pretending to be super into football to try and pass as straight
>>586624913What is the fish drying one? Is that from cooking, skinning, or fishing?
>>586624663Do you have a mental disability or something? Maybe you can use that as an excuse. Something is clearly preventing you from making rational decisions for the long term benefit of your future.
>>586624938lock propaganda, they don't want to be a popular class
DEVILSAUR spotted t-rexes are so fucking cool
>>586624938psyop to not get nerfed. destro + soul link looks disgusting as fuck
>>586617597It's premiering.
>>586624806i wasnt actually going to play it, just naming characters what i think they look like
>>586625024>>586625024nu bred get in fags
>>586624938because they think it will stop them from getting further nerfed (it wont)(all ranged DPS must doom)
>>586624938cause they're haters. people are going to be begging for soulstones, summons, curse of elements
what is this fucking spectral pet and mount theme going on here
>>586625014it's a fishing rack I think
>>586623906rollan
>>586624619Yes, hp scaling got nerfed hard it used to grant your demon 7.5 hp per masters stamina now they changed it to 2hp so its 73% less
evens horde odds ally
>>586625072>mages are actually fucking AMAZING>people will be BEGGING for portals and crafted food/drink because of how AMAZING mage is
>>586625060I think you should actually get yourself checked out man. Black people who commit crimes have the exact logic you do
>>586623423I was already globaling people on my hpally and I wasn't even in the most +sp gear, leaning more towards hsp.
>>586624619warlock pets were busted. this might be an over comp, but pet HP was way too high. I think my lock on the beta at 30 had 2.2k hp, my succ was like 2.6k and the blueberry was like 3.4kIt was dumb.
>>586624913what is this?
>>586625650max level camp with a bunch of shit placed. higher level cooking lets you make better fires for camps that let you have more shit placed down for more buffs at once.
>>586623272Being almost in melee range is how you rape huntards, sis.
>>586625858first time i heard of this, seems cozy
>>586623446The AI is cucking me on this questionBest I could come up with:
>>586625235>magesurely you're just pretending to be retarded right?
Prot War can now get>6 reduced rage heroic strike>6 reduced rage cleave and whirlwind>6 reduced rage sunder armor>9 reduced rage thunder clap>3 reduced rage every other offensive buttonSeems kind of nuts
>they nerfed my class, I'm switching!Faggot cowards
it actually blows my mind how many people are reading the patch notes going "THIS IS SO OP AS FUCK" without even going into the talent trees to see if you can even get all that op as fuck shit, while still taking all the talents you have to have to pvp in the first place. last night seeing rogues freaking out over the capstone sub talent that is clearly pve coded. on top of not being able to just look at the skill and go "the set up for that in pvp just won't work", they are too retarded to go play around in the tree to realize "oh I'm a fucking retard if I put this many points into sub, I'll be missing to many must have pvp skills" in the first place.
>>586626594it needs it when becoming tankier actively works against their resource mechanic
>>586627281a lot of people here are emotional reactionaries
>>586624962jej
>>586623906Rolling 9
>>586623906roll
>>586621741RP is cursed but at least the faggots out themselves so you can avoid them.
>>586623906im going rogue anyway but doing thos for the funny
