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Is it worth it?
I've played EQ a bunch in 99, and I've always wanted to go back.
TLPs are lame and gay, with krono bots and retarded redone zones.
Project Quarm has none of those issues, plus coins have weight and other neat classic shit.
But now I have a level 10 Druid, and the reality of the difficulty is setting in, and it has occurred to me this server is full of EQ autists. The world feels less magical with all these people talking in depth about the mechanics.
Do I really want to commit my time to this?
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>>1150064
Unless you are really into Luclin and PoP era, I wouldn't commit too much time in Quarm for a few reasons:

P99 exists as a time capsule up to the Velious Era, expansions after Velious introduced a lot of quality of life things like faster travel and a bazaar that killed a lot of player interaction which was necessary before, many players agree that it ruins the spirit and challenge of the original game. Also, while not a perfect recreation of "Classic EQ", it is the closest we will ever get and is officially endorsed by Daybreak as long as P99 never goes past the Velious server.

Quarm is not officially endorsed, it is not trying to be an accurate representation of "Classic EQ", and the main dev is a tranny. All these things add up to an unstable server that could be shut down at any moment imo. If you are cool with that then have fun.

Many P99 players burnt out on the classic era so they moved over to Quarm to try something new. This makes P99 pretty comfy right now since the population is much lower than Quarm and the attitude is less competitive, in a game like EQ where everything is on a timer and spawns are finite this is a great thing. Prices are also cheaper on P99 since everything has been farmed to death.

It will be hard to avoid the autism, you probably need a certain amount to enjoy a game like this in 2024, but generally my experience on P99 is mostly chill and people don't really care how you play as long as it doesn't get them killed. I would not recommend getting into raiding though, that's where the true autism begins.
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EQ in the many forms it currently exists in is a great example of how community can make or break games like this. The ideal is Daybreak starts up another Mischief style TLP server because that was fun as Hell and the people were great, but EQ just melts down the further you get into the expansions. P99 was fun as well, but the community was WAY fucking worse. EQ is not a complicated game and you don't really need to do everything hyper-optimally. There is a wide band of performance that is "fine" in my opinion, but the people on P99 acted like if you weren't picking classes/race combos flawlessly and shit or anything similar, you may as well not even be playing. That's the total opposite of how EQ was designed. The fact Quarm has a tranny dev makes me really skeptical about it. Those people do really bad with power.
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>tranny dev
I played at launch and the amount of drama the tranny actually creates is unreal. There was talk about the server shutting down back then, months later I’m shocked it’s still around. The tranny dev was also too busy dilating to fix the camera issue. Do yourself a favor and avoid quarm. It’s great on the surface level but the more you play it the more apparent how awful the dev actually is.
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>>1150649
>I played at launch and the amount of drama the tranny actually creates is unreal
may I press you for an anecdote?
>>1150621
>EQ is not a complicated game and you don't really need to do everything hyper-optimally.
Yes, in my experience a full group is more than a match for anything of similar level. Any extra performance is wasted.
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>>1150608
>I would not recommend getting into raiding though, that's where the true autism begins.
Not a problem, I hate raiding.
>Luclin and PoP
I understand it's gonna take another year for the server to reach Luclin. I'll probably have lost interest and moved on by then.
>autism
I've come to realize I don't mind the autism that much. It seems mostly in the discord where people are just talking about the optimal play and shit. When actually playing, everyone seems "normal"
>unstable server
this is now my chief concern.

I used to play on P99. I think I have a level 20 druid there. I might go back there, because I'm really interested in leveling and questing in Velious (I originally quit shortly after Velious came out).
Plus I always thought it was retarded that Velious didn't raise the level cap. You're level 60 when Velious comes out, so there is nothing to do but camp mobs for quest items which is mind numbingly boring, and raiding.
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If I was you I wouldn't commit my time to it. At least wait longer to see how the server does, I really doubt it'll be here long term.

So many formulas and things are busted on this server. Someone even told me if you turn on lich before you die as Necro you don't lose exp.
I can't be assed to list everything else fucked with the server but you can look it up easily.
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>secrets is back with a new account with a tranny anime catgirl pfp
you can’t make this shit up, unreal
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>>1154013
fucking kek its over Quarm trannies
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>>1150700
Druid is a perfect first character
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>>1154013
>new account
why? what happened to his old account?
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>people are STILL seething about bards
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>>1150064
>Is it worth it?
I'm having a blast. Came from green. So much fun doing shit like break fear less than three groups or Naggy with four (and not being in a TLP) without being in some zerg guild to do the most basic shit. That might not be for you but I love raiding without the 70+ force, races, and retarded bots monitoring shit.
>I've played EQ a bunch in 99, and I've always wanted to go back.
Well, if you know you liked it, go back? P99 is going to have a smaller pop and be more top heavy. Your call if that's good or bad but it's still there, worts and all.
>But now I have a level 10 Druid, and the reality of the difficulty is setting in, and it has occurred to me this server is full of EQ autists. The world feels less magical with all these people talking in depth about the mechanics.
>That's EQ for you.
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secrets spends more time bitching about “hate speech” and who he’s going to ban than fixing shit
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>>1156755
because he cant fix shit. its why the camera bug is still a thing
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>>1156981
>the camera bug is still a thing
audible kek, still too busy dilating.
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>>1156981
yes, the camera bug is probably a hard thing to fix (actual work)
He'd rather work on easy flashy stuff, like adding the bazaar and lapping up the adoration of his fan club in the discord.
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>>1150064
>be me
>playing Project Quarm
>no in game map with GPS location marker
>neat, I have to actually navigate using my senses and awareness
>go to Discord to say how awesome this is
>get push back from people who say "I don't want to waste time learning the maps"
>learn that people use a parse program to have a map with GPS location marker anyway
>also learn that Secrets is working on an in-game map
>these autists don't understand
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>>1157466
>neat, I have to actually navigate using my senses and awareness
remember you can do this with any mmo, but you seem to think its better when you and every one else is forced to do so
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>>1157527
Are you seriously implying that a game designed around quest markers is going to provide the same level of indirect queues for travel? I wish you retards would stop bringing down the bar for quality for everyone.
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>>1157537
>retards
these are the same retards who say "you don't have to use fast travel", but that's BS because quests in those games are designed with fast travel in mind. The devs are too lazy to add in other travel methods, so it's either sprinting across stretches of nothing, or fast travel.

But it doesn't matter, these people only care about their pixels and levels. They froth at the mouth at progression, and care nothing for immersion. They are little more than animals.
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>>1157527
>to think its better when you and every one else is forced to do so
It's nice when everyone has a shared experience.
But I guess navigating is just a waste of time. If it impedes leveling, get rid of it. I'm surprised any EQ players still tolerates exp loss and corpse runs.
Yes, it's better to just beam a straight line from Kelethin to the Butcher Block zone line without having to pay attention to anything in game.
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>>1157537
no, im just saying you whining that others use maps doesnt affect your own individual player experience at all.
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>>1157557
You're simple minded. I wish I could be pure like you. How much happier I would be if I were as daft as you.
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>>1157567
>has no argument so he just calls people retards
i accept your concession
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>>1157568
You quite literally have already seen and refused to acknowledge the obvious logical premise and inductive reasoning, so what's the point? Easier to just call you a fucking retard. Other people who see it who aren't fucking retards will get it, you're just a lost cause.
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>>1157569
>obvious logical premise and inductive reasoning
such as?
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>have all the maps memorized so I don’t have to constantly look at the wiki or use nparse
heh, nothin personnel kiddos
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>>1157901
>constantly look at the wiki
looking up maps is fine. the issue is the GPS marker that gives you exact position information.
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>>1157930
You can do the same thing with the /loc command since you have no issue with using the wiki
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>>1158066
that's a huge pita though, so I don't do it.
if you give me an in-game gps marker though, I don't have the self control to not use it so I hate it. the same way a junkie hates his fix.
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>>1158092
so you just lack any real self control, got it
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>>1158163
yes, I'm completely upfront about that.
But what we're talking about here is the satisfaction of finding your way in unfamiliar territory. If given the choice people will just default to using the GPS instead of learning the world, and thus miss out on a great experience.
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>all secrets does is power trip in discord and flyhack around for suspicious people in game instead of fixing real issues
grim
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anyone read any of the EQ books? any of the novelizations any good?
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>>1158528
Your fault for thinking anything else would happen on a tranny server
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>>1158628
No but im messing around with the TTRPG books lots of good lore in there. Might GM a game one day.
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>>1158528
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>>1159909
Somebody tell this disgusting fuck to take a shower god damn that is some dirty ass hair
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>quarm 500 players
>p99 351 players
it's over. the looney troon killed the community
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>>1161224
Good, it filtered out all the faggots and trannies. Fuck pop and luclin they can have it.
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>>1161511
servers not even gonna last that long.
In the mean time it's a good opportunity to play with a leveling population through Kunark and Velious. Your precious P99 can't do that.
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>>1161669
>servers not even gonna last that long.
i was hoping it would just to see all the people who get filtered. would also be funny to see all the people whine about how weak bst is as if if they expected anything otherwise going into luclin and pop
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Project 1999 for nostalgia and Imperium for solo/duo play with optional cheatcodes. Why would I play any of this other shit?
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>>1161718
>solo everquest
it's a vapid experience and there are much better games you could be playing by yourself or with just one other person
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>>1161669
Great I can group up with all the retarded trannies that cant see that the server their playing on is garbage. No, I play mostly solo or with guildies and having less pop is a good thing, EQ wasnt designed to function with servers over 1000 players.
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>>1162075
>retarded trannies
how many retarded trannies are on the server? Is EQ popular in the transgender community or something?
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>>1162114
theres probably like 5 but when the total pop is 300 people that seems like a lot
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>>1162351
Anon..., I get that you don't like trans people but please stop being so retarded.
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>>1162362
my point still stands
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>>1161669
>servers not even gonna last that long.
>two more weeks
>two more months
>two more years
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>>1162114
All mmos are popular in the trans community, and yes that includes EQ. Just go to the quarm discord and you can see tranny profiles everywhere.
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I'm having fun. Wish the xpacs were releasing on 6 month schedule instead of 9.
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>>1165349
its really gonna sink in during kunark that 9 months is way too long
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>>1165397
Its sinking in now. Two months until The Hole? Five months until Kunark? come on now, with the current loot rates and raid instance model, no reason to keep the schedule so elongated. We know the lifespan of trannies, the server is gonna die before we reach Velious.
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>>1165968
desu classic era is just shit which doesnt help. they should have released kunark too on launch but staggered releasing its raids and epics weapons until 6-9 months in or something instead
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>>1150064
No. No eq server will ever capture the feeling you're looking for.. the people have changed and are colossal faggots compared to the spirit of the online community of 99-2004. I would know, I've got max level dudes on probably every decent server.
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>>1157527
Let's not pretend that EQ is too big to just learn your way around in... Everything before Luclin is so thoroughly explored and known already, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone opening the map for content in those eras.
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>>1167430
Well. I dunno about that... I mean. The servers where multiboxing is forbidden and enforcement is tight, those often get very close. The main problem is when raid / group content can't be done due to low server population, if they don't rebalance content to make things soloable. EQ1 is an ancient game that has absolutely crippling and insufferable mechanical balance problems. Private servers that don't try to address that are just recreating an unplayable game. Wayfarer's soloability was pretty fun. If they rebalanced the epic 1.5 / 2.0 mobs and absolutely fucking banned multiboxing it'd be a much better server in terms of game design. After that, they'd need to kill the standard issue powertripping corrupt twats like that rotten cunt HR lady who was a mod for ages there. She probably still is. Fucking toxic as fuck.
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>>1167430
This is some major rose tinted glasses, you probably never even had a max level character back in the day. It is exactly the same today as it was back then. The only exception was the RP servers, but the other 20 or whatever servers was the same shit.
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>>1167430
>No eq server will ever capture the feeling you're looking for
yeah sure, but not having krono bots and retardport is a HUGE step in the right direction.
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>>1167430
I've had more fun playing most recently (blue, green, a few of the TLPs, quarm) than I did back 1999-2003.
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>>1167590
Yes, but it's insufficient on its own. Original EQ1 like that has absolutely fucking crippling, insufferable balance problems. It's definitely necessary to have enforced single-box, to remove the bullshit easymode stuff, yes. But they need to address the class balance problems, too. Quarm simply does not have the political will nor technical ability nor manpower to do it.
For example, look at the population distribution by class. Druid, Necro and Enchanter are by HUGE margins the most common classes. Something like 1,200+ in each of them. Meanwhile, Mage, Cleric and Bard have like 700. And everyone else has like 300. And Wizard has less than 100. Let that sink in.
It's not like EQ1 is a secret anymore. No one is under any delusions about how fucking worthless trash Rogue and Warrior are. Particularly pre-Luclin. And you still wouldn't want to single-box them no matter what era. This isn't like it was back in the day when servers were jam packed with a thousand players at your level no matter what level you are. No no no.
And it's not like it would be difficult to make HUGE improvements to class balance just with some relatively minor and simple adjustments. A lot opens up with later-era content, that's true, but also forcing us to wait for those eras to see even the flaccid class balance tweaks that Verant implemented is fucking stupid.
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Bump for the quarm trannys, you're welcome faggots
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>>1164074
I never even installed quarm after i saw an interview with the troon

I'll try to find it brb.
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>>1168438
I don't care about her.
What I care about is that I want a single-box server... but I don't fucking want the ultra-hyper-giga-sweaty hardcore authentic accurate bullshit. The original EQ fucking sucked sloppy feces from your mother's rotten cunt. If they're gonna bother going through all the trouble of even setting up and running a server in the first place, the least they could do is the low-hanging fruit of rebalancing and quality of life shit, bare minimum. Like. It's a single hour's work to implement the changes that have become community standard for a reason. They aren't even controversial.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XXUw9MGURo0&pp=ygUUYWxvdmluZ3JvYm90IHNlY3JldHM%3D
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>>1168441
Just fucking ignore it dude, find a based guild
Verification not required.
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>>1168441
I played this shit in 2001 it's one of my favorite games, trust me after kunark it sucked. I'm playing the exact same character I played back then but this time I'm max lvl solo no res with a fungi any my epic nigger we are not the same
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>>1168441
Duel me in P99 if you want to get your shit rocked bitch
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>server is named quarm but probably wont make it to quarm
ironic
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>>1168454
sis, velious and pop are some of the best eras of eq
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>>1168469
Ok tranny
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>>1168486
mindbroken
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>>1168526
Yep go fuck yourself
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>>1168531
*fucks self*
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>>1168539
What did you say faggots? I don't speak tranny
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>>1168441
>ultra-hyper-giga-sweaty hardcore authentic accurate bullshit
well it's not that. There's tons of changes. I'm not an EQ autist so I couldn't tell you what some of the more esoteric ones are.
However, the big ones I know about are: Legacy items haven't been removed (they've been replaced with no drop versions), and spawn times have been tweaked to remove bottlenecks and such.
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Keep em coming niggers I'll be here all day.
Verification not required.
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Fucking pussies
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My gf sucked my dick while I played p99. It was awesome.
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I'm really glad I still have my dick.
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>>1168441
>referring to a mentally deranged man as “”””””her””””””
What layer of faggot are you on?
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Fucking dead air kek
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>>1168264
Rogues and wizards are fine, just group dependent. Both provide more than adequate DPS in groups and raids in every era, and get much better each expansion. Just because they can't solo doesn't mean they aren't viable. If you want to do it all, play a necro, shaman, or enchanter and enjoy all the additional complexities. Rogues and wizards have one focus, team up and shit out damage, and they are good at that. Mages are objectively better dps in classic, but that advantage disappears quickly in early Kunark. Ultimately, play what you want and have fun. The game doesn't need class equality anyway, otherwise it ends up like FFXIV where everything is the same just with different special effects and animations.
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>>1168585
The one where you don't fucking matter to anyone and never have so I can say what the cunting fuck ever I fucking want and you can't do anything about it unless you kill yourself. Which you should, but I'll never know or care whether you do or don't.
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>>1170955
I don't think that's really a fair understanding of the problem. If there isn't any multiboxing (and no game / server that allows multiboxing should be tolerated), then that means you're playing that one specific character. Rogue. Wizard. Warrior. Whatever class you picked.
In a group environment, the developer might say (as you just did) "the group as a whole unit completes content just fine so what's the problem!" But that's not actually what the *players* are experiencing. They are not the group, they are just the Rogue. And their experience is just watching the chat log scroll up and waiting for someone else to put SoW on them or teleport them out of the dungeon or across the world so they can unload the three hundred pounds of trash to get a hundred plat from it. It's a garbage existence because you literally cannot actually decide to play the game: your ability to play is decided entirely by someone else. That's. Not. Fair. It's not balanced, of course, but it's profoundly toxic as well.
Players have a right to expect that their playstyle is supported and valid. Players have a right for their own decisions to determine their own experience. Players have a right for their experience to not be entirely determined by someone else's decisions.
And, *especially* in an RPG, players have a right to customize their avatar - if they don't want to play an Enchanter or Necromancer because it's not the aesthetic they want to inhabit, that's a valid and important choice. It is in fact the fundamental foundation of the entire fucking concept of the game's design.
EQ1 fails at that, especially in pre-Kunark.
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>>1168549
Where are all the tweaks and things documented?
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>>1168454
Ohhhhh whoa whoa whoa.... Uhhhh, no, Velious was extremely tedious and fucking boring, that's true. But that's because Velious was basically nothing but hardcore raids for groups of like two hundred people or so, and its expansions of content and class balance changes was mostly restricted to level-capped uber-raid-geared players. This is a problem that PoP had, as well, but Luclin was a good expansion.
Luclin brought the bazaar which dramatically relieved soooooo much tedium and frustration involved in the game's main bullshit: the "economy". What I didn't like was that no-trade / no-drop / lore tags became so fucking common after Kunark.
The hyper-inflation of hitpoints, damage and especially resistances was a problem that noticeably ramped up in Velious and it only became wacky in late Luclin and ran completely off into insanity in the PoP era... but only in those zones. If you keep the quality of life and balance adjustments of Luclin / PoP but you just don't bother going to those zones until it's raid time, the game is dramatically better. Not perfect, but better. AAs was one of the most brilliant additions ever made to the game, but they should have been more robustly supported and available all along the way from level 5 and up.
Project Quarm isn't gonna go full-on customized mechanical design, and that's a shame. Wayfarer's is so much better in terms of design, but the problem is that it allows boxing. And that's a hard fucking no. Thus it has a population of maybe 30 people at peak times (ten of whom are neckbeards sitting afk to catch xp potions while they're at work).
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>>1168462
You duel your mom every night and lose. Keep your bruised little penis in your undies, cause I ain't interested in bestiality.
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>>1171282
This was a good troll post but you shouldn't have included valid. Too on the nose unless that's what you were going for but why ruin it.
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>>1171359
That's not how gaslighting works, anon. You can't just call everything a "troll". It doesn't make you look superior. It just shows that you're a child.
That and the fact that you can't get over the niche MMO you spent your high school years playing instead of doing your homework. EQ1 was an absolute dumpsterfire of clumsy ad hoc chaos, amateur design mistakes, lack of content and hilariously outdated graphics and UI (even compared to 90's standards). Any server that tries to recreate that has also failed in the mandate of its opportunity. The community literally has the source code. If you want to live as a museum exhibit, play on P99. The reason you don't want to stay on P99 already betrays the insincerity of your convictions.
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>>1171278
nice melty troon, lmao. Speaking of, your hero king troon himself is having a melty right now in discord because he’s so mentally stable.
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>>1171416
kek holy shit.
she needs to step away from discord.
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>>1171416
whats the melty about?
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>>1171690
Enchanted Loom was in discord asking a bunch of questions and being a bit bitchy. But then Secrets loses her cool and does this huge rant.
This type of behavior alone makes me feel a bit uncertain about playing on the server.
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>>1171726
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>open a discord to the public
>be surprised when the public is spergs
>sperg out even harder on response
shiggy. when will game developers learn?
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>>1171726
>>1171729
amazing how much time he spends posting on discord instead of addressing the bugs mentioned would be fixed eventually. its almost like he doesnt know how to fix things like the camera so he just monologues on discord to look like hes doing something instead
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>>1171410
Anon, there is no way to look superior here, we are all anonymous.

Tbh I'm a little disappointed it was just a few sentences before the mask slipped this time instead of near the end. Oh well they can't all be winners.
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>>1171726
>>1171796
>hobby
This irks me, that she just considers it a hobby.
She is taking on a lot of responsibility for something that is just a hobby.
I imagine it's a huge amount of work and probably not very fun. Like eventually there will probably be some huge problem to overcome, like a major crash or bug, that requires much effort to fix. Is she going to be willing to deal with it, seeing as this is all just a hobby to her?
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>>1171907
Yes you have hit on the age old conundrum of developers liking to be paid for working on hairy unfun things. You have a razor sharp wit no doubt.
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>>1171913
just because shes doing it for free, doesn't mean it's a hobby.
there are plenty of more appropriate terms she probably meant, but she was too hot under the collar to think about it.
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It’s pretty stupid to just wave it off as just a hobby when he is raking in money from it through twitch donations. Also pretty stupid to pretend he is handling it out of the goodness of his heart. Redirects to personal donations and shittalking daybreak in discord are pretty big red flags that could almost certainly get a c&d from daybreak if someone blew it up. Based on what I’ve seen he is making no small amount of money operating the server and has specifically said all donos are going to him personally and not being used for anything server related.
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>>1171960
>makes money off a game he didnt even create
>still gets hrt for free via the taxes of actual hard working citizens
KEK how anyone thinks this secrets guy is doing this out of passion is beyond me. its no wonder he wants to drag the server out for years because that just means more time to rake in donations but he'll play it off as he's doing it for the good of the server. unbelievable
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>posting Reddit comments on alt account to farm validation again
jfc this dude is as pathetic as it gets
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WLWR5JBbk
/ourguy/ appeared on a podcast!
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>secrets begging for money on patreon now
Absolutely shameless
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>>1174416
show some respect, he just moved with his nestmate!
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>fixing camera
hard
>working on Valentine's Day Event
easy

Many such cases in game development. The devs want to work on fun and easy stuff that provides very obvious changes that people will talk about.
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>>1177677
cant say i blame him. if i was a talentless hack making money off a 24 year old game i had no hand in developing, id do the same thing
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>>1177677
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>it’s another pity party validation farm episode
lmao trannys really are something else
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How goes everyone's progression Still driving towards 50? Working on your planar set? Hunting a specific rare item still? Leveling your fifth alt? Or just raidlogging/breaking til Kunark?
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So started playing after luclin back in the day, and am unfamiliar with some of the classic dungeons. What's the best way to learn how to get places in Lguk? Seems kind of dangerous if you don't have IVU. I wanna start grouping here, but am embarrassed that I don't know the zone acronyms or how to navigate the dungeon.
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>>1182214
I think there are some guk walkthroughs on YouTube. Pull one of those up and watch it, but more importantly, try to follow along on a zone map. This is the fastest way to learn a zone without actually being there in person.

But really, if you do get a group in lguk I'm sure they'd be willing to send someone to come and get you.

I myself leaned lguk by playing on the Dark Exile server. It's an easy server that you can solo most non raid content on. So I just did a bunch of running and killing in lguk getting all those rare items I never got back in 99.
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>>1182214
>What's the best way to learn how to get places in Lguk?
People will 9/10 send someone to get you. It's just assumed people either only sort of know it or knew it 20 years ago and that's not reliable.

Harder part is not getting lost in upper guk getting there unless you try to just wing lguk with a map. You'll die then.
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>>1168441
the most retarded thing about the classic EQ scene to me is how performative the 'classic' really is. we can't have ingame maps because that's too casual, meanwhile literally everyone uses the parsing maps anyway. why can't i just fucking have an ingame map? it's bullshit.
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>>1184592
>meanwhile literally everyone uses the parsing maps anyway
I don't. It's fucking retarded.
Pull up maps on a second monitor and figure it out. It supposed to be an adventure.
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>>1183266
>Harder part is not getting lost in upper guk
dude just follow the right wall
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>>1171284
I don't think there is a document, because Secrets is just doing this as a "hobby" so she can't be arsed.
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Never played before and looking at p99, what's a good solo class/race combo to learn the ropes
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>>1181767
I just got my Druid to level 37, and I'm also leveling a Necro alt, which is now level 25.
I'll probably still be on my journey to 50 when Kunark comes out, which will be great because Kunark has tons of leveling opportunities.
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>>1184622
Play Quarm. Way more active, higher population, fewer cliques, progression over the next few years. Shaman, druid, and necromancer are good starter classes. All three can solo very well. All three can group. Pick whatever race you thinks look the coolest.
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>>1184622
for me, it's the necromancer.

melee classes like the rogue, warrior, paladin, and Shadow Knight are very gear dependent and can be rough starting without any money from another char to buy stuff.
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>>1184622
druid, necro, mage are solid starts. don't listen to that retard and try to play on Quarm. it's a tranny server.
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>>1187739
>it's a tranny server
there are trannys involved, but it's not a tranny server.
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>>1187907
Tranny detected. Take one look at them lapping his ass juice In the discord and tell me it's not a circle jerk.

I'm still pissed and will remain pissed
stupid nigger won't restore characters. Cockblocked me out of classic items. Fuck you secrets I hope you get raped in jail after the inevitable cp leak and your server burns to the ground bitch.
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>>1161718
>Imperium
i was toying around with the server, it's an interesting idea but it has such a funserver mentality. is it still some kind of challenge if you do like a self-imposed 'classic' challenge or something?
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>>1187959
>the guy who deleted his character
bro you gotta move on lmao
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>>1187959
I can’t believe you are still mad about that, you are just gonna have to accept that quarm blew out p99 and nobody cares that secrets is a trans besides you. Respect her.
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>>1189612
why did he delete his character?
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>>1189935
He's a retard. Also this is probably the only case in history where the tranny doesn't promote his fetish or groom the user community, at least not yet. So enjoy it for now.
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>>1187959
why did you delete your character?
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>>1189935
>why did he delete his character?
Accidentally deleted it drunk during cr in guk while attempting to log in after dying.

Not going down the rabbit hole for the details again but there was massive amounts of autistic shrieking and this was maybe four-five months ago. Secrets and co wouldn't restore it.
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>>1190235
>Secrets and co wouldn't restore it
dang they should have just restored the character. doesn't seem like a big deal
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>>1190280
probably dont know how. its why the camera is still bugged
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>>1190280
>dang they should have just restored the character.
Maybe they would have if god's special little creature was capable of not always ranting and stirring up shit. But he isn't and they didn't and Quarm is better off without him.
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>>1190084
it still informs all his other decision making (whining about users chatting among themselves using "slurs" - his tranny head admin does the same and both of them brag about banning users over it, not in the context of tickets or /ooc moderation either) and his mental state. for all my issues with p99 at least Rogaan and Nilbog are regular guys, there's a pretty low chance of them flying off the handle and doing something crazy due to being in their 30s and going through a second puberty or anything like that.

that video from awhile back from another tranny complaining he couldn't get other people banned because he didn't like their political opinions was pretty funny though. Secrets isn't that bad but as a general rule i avoid anything those people touch.
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>>1190538
Nobody cares, you lost. Trans rights are human rights.
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>>1191677
Nobody cares, fag. Keep your fetish to yourself.

Aside from that, what camp is everyone looking forward to most in The Hole?
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>>1192400
it obviously matters to this guy because he is obsessed with talking about secrets tranny cock as much as possible
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>>1192730
>only one person thinks trannies are weird and gross
you wish Narcissa
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>>1191677
>Nobody cares
I care.
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I went to ask a simple question in this server's server (partially because some required files were in the fucking stupid discord, so may as well extract further information) and he went on and on about how he was creating le perfect EverQuest recreation NO POOPSOCKING for WORKING, FUNCTIONING ADULTS and his worshippers went on to praise him for it. I almost like some of the ideas the server has but I don't know how I feel about this. I think I'll stick with P99 for now. All of the interest around this to me just seems to be drummed up by people bored from P99 looking for a new fix and because it's new. Really, I just wanted to go on some Planescape adventures.
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Did he fix the camera bug yet? What about the fucked agro?
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>>1184615
>>1171919
>>1171907
>>1171426
>she
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imagine wasting the immense amount of time it takes to level up a character in fucking Everquest of all games in a server run by not one but TWO trannies. i honestly can't even fathom being so cavalier with my time like that. either you're going to get banned or the server is just going to disappear one day, likely after the tranny admin inevitably hangs himself.
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>>1171278
im quite literally a member of parliament
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>>1195601
>the server is just going to disappear one day,
>>1164036
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People are just jealous that secrets is making money off of quarm and they aren’t. That’s all it boils down to. Don’t even waste time responding to them.
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>>1196424
People PAY to play on a troon server? Holy shit that's even worse lmao. A fool and his money...
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Is Shards of Dalaya worth playing on these days? The custom content looks interesting, but it seems like a ghost town.
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>>1196994
no, unless you have a lot of friends to play with. the custom content forces you to do a main storyline that you dont care about just to unlock end game areas. there are like 100 people still playing and 1/3rd of them are complete faggots
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>>1150064
I played enough to get a full set of Rubinstein, manastone ect on launch. Fun community and stuff, but there's only so much EQ I can play without getting burned out for a couple years.

With Monsters and Memories on the horizon I'd rather just wait instead of going from one grandfest to the next
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This game looks pozzed as fuck.
>Nigger fanfiction "Erudites" are the most intelligent race in the game
>Female stats EXPLICITLY the same as male
Why do you losers play this? Play the white man's game, World of Warcraft: Dragonflight.
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>>1198368
except erudites are one of the worst races in the game which youd know if you actually played it
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>>1198383
Not my problem tranny
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>>1197503
Well, that doesn't sound too bad, and I do have someone to play with. It really sucks about the forced main storyline though, that's kind of the thing I liked about EQ is that there wasn't any of that nonsense, but I can tolerate it. Is there anything else to be wary of? I saw someone while leveling and they just ran away immediately...
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>>1198480
>Is there anything else to be wary of?
its better that you go in blind because one thing i did like about sod is that it managed to make everquest feel new again even though they just repurposed existing zones.
there is a wiki just in case you need it, which you probably will since they have moved basically everything around
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>>1151026
>Someone even told me if you turn on lich before you die as Necro you don't lose exp.
so?
>>1190235
I looked that up in the discord, and apparently the char was only in his low 30s. that is really not a big deal. it's not like he lost a 50 fully planar geared character.
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>>1198968
>I know now as an industry member
delusional tranny reaching new levels of delusional
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>>1190298
maybe Secret's and Co should have a confirmation box for the delete button? What a total fucking shit show.
>but but but we're just volunteers doing it for free!!!
yes, and it shows.
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>in mistmoore
>waiting for CE group
>get into CY group
>we wipe
>do cr and rezes an shit, ready to go back in
>get tell CE group saying they have room for me
>decline, as I have a group
>5 min later everyone in my group decides to part ways
retarded ass game
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>>1209392
>being loyal to strangers on the internet
sasuga
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up to $200 a month now, eq players really do have brainrot
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>>1211517
>makes $200/month toward server fees hosting an emulated EQ server
>thinks that means he's in the gaming industry
Quarm has only made me come to truly appreciate the P99 staff.
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>>1211522
Secrets doesn’t pay for any of the server related stuff, the server is bankrolled by someone else. He just manages it.
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>>1211517
is that legal?
I feel like these types of projects make it VERY clear that they don't accept donations or payments.
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>>1211677
He does make it very clear that donations do not go to the project and instead go to him personally for existing.
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Did y'all enjoy the 25th Anniversary event?
I got two boxes and Abubkar
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>better mask up because of COVID lol nothing to do with my mannish jaw line.
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>>1219258
Imagine seeing this and thinking
>Yes I want to invest hundreds of hours in building a character on a server hosted by this abomination
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>>1219258
He’s still got that same greasy unwashed for months hair. God damn this dude is repulsive af. You are going to a convention ffs at least have some decency for the people that have to be near you.
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>>1198368
Is this how you live your life? Yeah, Everquest devs in 1999 were thinking of "pozzedness" and "wokeness" jesus.
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that's actually pretty cool
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>>1219258
Jesus, Secrets just do everyone a favor and detransition. I know you read this. You aren't fooling anyone and it's extremely cringe. You'd get a lot more respect and being off the meds would enable you to get a lot more done.
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>>1212367
>game preservation
sounds like it's going to project quarm
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>>1229698
you can read all about it on his twitch and in the quarm discord if you don't believe me, or you can just be wrong ig you do you
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>>1219975
he probably did wash it but it looks like shit because he never got maintenance cuts while growing it so its a wrangled mess of split ends
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friends who do nothing but play everquest that always say this is there last time playing everquest just started playing everquest again on this quarm shit. Its some classic hyper-spawning item cazic thule rubicute boosted shit with instances for the raids. Am told its going to be in classic for six plus months or some shit. I aint raiding cazic thule for bloodfires and plane of sky which has only five items people want which never drop meanwhile the one hundred other shit items nobody wants only drop.
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>>1231760
Cool story. Kunark starts in 3 months. Quarm is basically a longrunning TLP without boxing and without microtransactions.
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>>1235493
>without boxing and without microtransactions
and without the gay ass redone zones and kronobros
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>>1150064
>is it worth it
no
>i played
and that time has passed
>TLPS
see above
>none of these issues, commit time etc
you will and youll waste your time
t. max on literally every server except shards of dalaya
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kek
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>>1235834
>you will
I will what?
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>>1238494
>>1209392
kek
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He’s farming pity points again, and of course people are falling for it. Lmao.
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don't forget to donate so him and his tranny boyfriend dont have to move back in with his parents!
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Should I play P99?
I've never played EQ before but I've played some similar games like FFXI.
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yikes
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>>1240379
already up to 5k in 24 hours, this tranny's grift game is on point. either that or eq players are just fucking retards not sure
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>>1240061
>>1240379
>>1240420
jfc.
at first I was hesitant to start up on Project Quarm because I was worried about Secret's stability.
now I feel like it's an ethical dilemma.
I'll of course not donate to this, but I feel like playing on the server is passively supporting this.
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>>1240379
he had to dead name himself to use GoFundMe. the oppression is real eqsisters
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If you play on this server you should feel immense shame.
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>secrets extorting his servers player base
who could have seen that one coming
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>>1241785
If he an heroes I'll just take that as a sign from God it's time to play something else
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i play on quarm, p99, live, and eq2 and am having fun. level 22 on quarm, 34 on p99 (just got past 30 after like 3 years), and got to level 30 last night on varsoon. the origins server sounds cool af for eq2, but the eq1 tlps sound like there's no reason to play them over quarm/p99.
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>>1243470
>EQ2 origins server
>“When last I spoke of it, I explained it is not like any TLE’s before it, and now I will explain why. This new server will be called the Origins Server, and it will take you way back to old school EverQuest II from back in 2006! We’ll start in The Shattered Lands era (no expansions unlocked), and you’ll get to experience the look and challenge of the classic world of Norrath. The seas have calmed enough for sea faring to resume, and you are plucked from the waters by none other than Captain Varlos. Soon you will find yourself on an island and then given passage to your racial neighborhoods in Qeynos or Freeport. Systems will seem less complex, stats and gameplay will be reflective of the 2006 era, and there will be more focus on grouping with that old school MMO feel! If you did not have the chance to play back then, or just want to revisit for nostalgia, then this server will be on your list to play. Beta will begin on May 2, 2024.”
wtf a true classic EQ2 server? I've been waiting on the EQ2 emu for that, but I'll gladly pay $15 a month if Darkpaw can pull it off.
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>>1244047
eh it's not gonna be true true cause a lot of that stuff was fully lost from old devs, but they're bringing back stats and old mobs and quests and art assets so until the emu can be finished it'll be the closest there can be to classic.
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>>1244047
Kander — Today at 1:23 PM
1. There will be no spell research. There will be a 6 week beta, so make sure you participate if you have questions. We restored old art, and old hoods, we need lots of testing.

2. All stats do something, like they used to. all bosses will be original stat/buff packages. no potency, no crit, no blue stats.

3. Unfortunately, not all the code is still there, so weight was lost. No weight, weight is unfortunately, gone.

4. So as to unlocks, none of that has been decided, but we did put in new forums, so now we will be able to poll and discuss unlocks before we launch.

5. There wil be a marketplace, but it will be very limited. It will not be free trade.

6. This server is on its own depot. Meaning, it cannot be affected by Live, at all. It literally has its own patches, etc. We've never done this before, so the server exists entirely separate from the rest of the game.

7. Freeport and Qeynos are back to old school. Old quests are back.

8. no persistant instances, its old school.

9. No subcombines. The current build is right after we took out subcombines for crafting.

full list! not full classic, but close enough for me right now. I'm excited! I never got to play the original eq, but the emu still feels years away, so this will do me fine until then
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I sold my box for virtually nothing because I'm new and didn't know there was a 30 day lockout from picking another one up.
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>>1245770
just buy one from another sucker who doesn't know about the 30 day lockout
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>>1244303
>>1244305
will it have the cash shop? if so then that's a no from me dawg
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Is negro racist?? that's a new one to me.
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>>1247620
keep playing on a literal tranny server tho. you're definitely not going to have all those hours of investment stolen from you one way or another (42%)
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>>1247620
It doesn’t matter whether or not it’s racist, it only matters if king troon thinks it is. But honestly you deserve it just for being dumb enough to play on project tranny.
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>>1247620
more proof of that the "slippery slope fallacy" isn't a fallacy.
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>>1248041
gypsies are white, therefore nobody cares. thats the real answer that you will never get from virtue signalers. hope this helps
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>>1248041
Secrets kinda based ngl
>>1248146
well yeah, but the problem is if you get enough virtual signallers together they can cause all kinds of trouble.
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>>1248170
You can always tell which pserver owners are mentally stable because they immediately and always threaten people with bans over everything.
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the gypsyposter won
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>>1247620
yeah westoids are a bunch of retards they don't know or care that there's no spanish word for nigger so negro means both black and nigger depending on context. some years ago a gm perma banned a spanish guy from a vanilla wow private server because his name was hierronegro (black iron) it was so funny but yeah... really makes you think
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>>1248170
what a fucking bot.
anti-racism just gives people an excuse to behave badly. they don't care about the issue, they just want to exert power while also telling themselves they are virtuous for doing so.
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Playing Teek when that shit comes out. Daybreak definitely pulled their head out of their ass making another Mischief style TLP. They should slow the expansion releases down as well while they're at it.
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>>1250992
this is completely fucked.
here is the nearly ideal EQ server. It's early in it's lifecycle so it isn't top heavy, it's not a TLP, et cetera
BUT, it just happens to be run by this person.
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Played a bit on p99, currently level 10, worth switching to Quarm? P99 is a bit dead, it's super boring to level solo.
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>>1251002
of course, anything to remove your whiny ass from p99
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>>1251002
>worth switching to Quarm?
nope
>P99 is a bit dead
it's the same on quarm. quarm release just splitted the already low playerbase so now you have 2 servers with 1.5k players let's goo!!
>it's super boring to level solo.
there are players on the most popular zones (on both servers) all the time. butcherblock, crushbone, ro, blackburrow, mistmoore, etc
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can any p99 bros talk to Rogean and Nilbog and have them talk to Secrets so she stops being so retarded?
she needs to take a step back from being such a public figure. just run the server and be cool. no one gives a shit about your personal life and potential indie game projects.
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>>1251053
oh, and stop perma banning people for no reason.
no, your server doesn't have racists in it. people pushing back against the gypsy thing isn't racism. it's just people calling you out on your bullshit.
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>>1251000
>They should slow the expansion releases down as well while they're at it.
would be nice.
unfortunately they are going in the opposite direction by having Kunark on launch.
I wouldn't mind too much, but Velious is getting released 4 weeks later...
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>>1251053
bold of you to assume the server was ever made for anything other than power tripping and grifting the players. but then again you are retarded enough to buy into the tranny delusional so it isnt that surprising
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>>1251120
bold of you to constantly post retarded shit.
you sound like a gypsy.
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>>1251002
>worth switching to Quarm?
Yeah man you should totally switch from the server that has been around forever with as normal a staff as you will probably ever get on an MMO pserver to go play on a brand new server run by a literal tranny and his tranny boyfriend. That's a great investment of your time. Dumb nigger.
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1251053
>she
nice bait faggot
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>>1252575
you sound like a gypsy faggot
go on! scam me out of my money with some magical beans you gypsy juggler
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>>1252790
you will never be a woman
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>>1254432
you will never be a gypsy
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>>1251000
are they confirmed to be mischief rules? thank god they are starting with kunark
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the funniest thing about the gypsy controversy is that everquest is an inherently racist world. next youre gonna have people whining when shadow haven shopkeepers refuse to sell to dark elves while telling them to get lost lmao
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>>1255334
>next youre gonna have people whining when shadow haven shopkeepers refuse to sell to dark elves while telling them to get lost lmao
That one dude complained about gypsy because it's a real world "slur". Racism amongst the game's races isn't an issue.
But it's disheartening to know that these people inhabit our communities. This fucker is probably feeling pretty emboldened since he got gypsy changed.
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The real kicker is that king troon has proven yet again that he is an unstable overreactionary by immediately caving to the crying and changing gypsy in game and then banning anybody who dares to talk about it or question it. But yeah, switch to quarm guys the server is in good hands. And don’t forget to donate to his patreon and gofundme because he can’t hold down a job! Which he whines about in discord all the time like a totally normal person!
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>>1255592
>don’t forget to donate to his patreon and gofundme because he can’t hold down a job!
id be willing to bet he has income, he's just extorting his player base because if they dont donate then it puts the server in jeopardy.
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Ding 50!
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every private server playerbase always plays the discord more than you lost the game lol
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>>1255547
>But it's disheartening to know that these people inhabit our communities run by a literal troon
yeah it's so shocking
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>>1259144
why did the April 1st event last for like 2 weeks?
I can't imagine how long an event for a real holiday will last.
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I'm going to be honest, I went into this blind. And I got filtered immediately. Made a character, tried to WASD movement and I end up auto attacking the npc in front of me. Died and got sent to gods knows where. Also when moving left or right there's no animation for strafing so it just slides and looks really weird.
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>>1261499
you auto attack with Q. download duxaUI to make the game more decent for a new player, equip your weapon, find your class trainer and give it your noob quest item to get a robe or something. then you can start killing mobs also kill some skeletons and loot their bone chips for a low lvl quest. butcherblock and greater faydark are the best areas for new players
>t. started playing this game in 2023
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>>1150064
why are prices so inflated on this server? are people exploiting/botting and gm doesn't notice?
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>>1265383
what prices? the reasons are many and varied.
for example, spells are inflated because everyone got their alts up during the 2 week April 1st event.
In contrast, the paw of opalla is relatively cheap because of increased spawn and drop rates.
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Quarm turning into a more custom, add-on ridden shithole every day. Classic my ass.
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>>1267610
what's new? I haven't been on for about a week
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>>1267610
but from day 1 every person involved with development said there would be changes, that was literally the thing secrets said before release and every other dev also said in the discord/on takp
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>>1267610
I just checked the patch notes and there hasn't been any classic altering changes. what the fuck are you talking about?
Or did you just want to post anti Quarm propaganda?
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>>1265383
You mean deflated? Everything is super cheap.
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Currently lvl 25, still didn't find anyone to play with or a guild, getting tired of solo killing mobs all day long. I can see a lot of merits that this game has over vanilla WoW or any other modern mmos but it's just not worth playing if you're a new player imo. The party was 25 years ago and you missed it.
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>>1268772
>Or did you just want to post anti Quarm propaganda?
This has just been about three anons bitching about quarm for a long time, lol.
Nothing more.
But they could at least go back to sharing memes on discord where their friends are instead of adding more garbage to the catalog.
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>>1270150
t. troon
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>>1270150
if someone wanted to spread anti-quarm propaganda all they would have to do is post screenshots of literally anything king troon posts on discord. there's no reason to even make anything up. also don't forget to donate to his patreon and gofundme which he was kind enough to remind everybody about just recently!
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>>1270657
>there's no reason to even make anything up
>except the population
>except targeting not being fixed (fuck, it's better than p99 at this point)
>saying the prices are inflated when they're literally the opposite

There is even a confirm button for characters now, in case you're a drunk retard that fixates on that for months after getting the digital Darwin award.

You guys are nice enough to give each other reach around at least, right?
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>>1270819
It could be the best EQ server ever on a technical level. It's still run by a mentally ill troon who will rug pull your unhealthy amount of time /played one way or another.
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>>1270883
>It could be the best EQ server ever on a technical level.
Which it actually slowly is becoming but don't tell the people that deleted their character or got banned that. Just keep regurgitating something about targeting ad nauseam.
>It's still run by a mentally ill troon
True, as the anons here that are more obsessed with talking about troons MORE than the discord server literally run by one. No need to be salty you fags can't afford HRT also
>who will rug pull your unhealthy amount of time /played
Let's talk about that last one and other EQ servers because it's the most retarded point and quickly becoming the only one. The alternatives:

TLPs - Khrono with a population that dies annually run by a company that will stop running eq and maybe shutter the IP if it doesn't prove popular enough (with an aging population/market that's shrinking, not growing)
Other emu servers with populations less than a house party
Other EMUs with populations less than a house party.
TAKP if you want to box with the dozen other people who want that but not live cancer
That closed source server in some New Jersey basement kept afloat by benefactors that might as well vanish tomorrow, giving money to 'devs' (cause the tranny wrote a lot of the code, lol) that can't even be bothered to say 'dude trust us', with players that epitomize unhealthy played time*

All the while shitting up the only everquest related spot to post on /vm /v

*Ironically more people on p99 will 41%** themselves when the server shuts down than the tranny server
**can any of you tranny posters seething here let us know what the accurate % is I don't keep up like you do

Stop being fags bigger than the actual fags running things and actually talk about EQ
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>>1270035
It really isn't a game for anti-socials or zoomers. You have to put yourself out there socially, be willing to travel and find open groups, and accept that you aren't always going to get a group every time you look (especially if you are a ranger or wizard).
On the discord there is a guild channel with lots of guilds recruiting, just tell any of them you are interested and I'm sure they'd bring you in. However just being in a guild doesn't guarantee a group, especially as most players are waiting for Kunark at this point.
Regardless, make sure you put /lfg on and travel between Mistmoore, Unrest, and Upper Guk (the best spot IMO). There are other decent spots around that level (Paw, Solusek A, Permafrost) but they are gonna be much less populated. Put in /ooc that you are lfg with your class name.
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>>1271192
dude is literally trying to farm sympathy right now by lying about thinking he has cancer for the past 2 days. and his profile status is still him begging for money. cough it up paypiggy, you dont want anything to happen to quarm do you?
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>>1267610
secrets is a fag but he never claimed quarm would be true to classic and even insisted you play p99 instead for that
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>>1271444
Just a few fags in here out fagging the fag server owner by making shit.

You hate to see it happen.
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>>1271334
And you play where?
Jay and Silent Bob's Jersey server people that spend 8 hours staring at a spawn point on discord that's not ever in danger of shutting down because 'reasons'?
An emu with a dozen people?
Spending Khrono? Don't be coy we know you don't have money to spend.
Giving money to fags is par for the course and if you're not doing it others on your behalf are.
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im a new player and having a lot of fun on quarm ;[ I've only gotten to level 14 but I've been role-playing an overly pompous and cynical half-elf paladin who became jaded from years of not being accept by his elf nor human relatives. He also refuses to group with trolls, because even though he's a haffu, he refuses to debase himself to that level.
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>>1271792
>Jay and Silent Bob's Jersey server people that spend 8 hours staring at a spawn point on discord that's not ever in danger of shutting down because 'reasons'?
Nice strawman. Of course there's a possibility of any server shutting down, even officials. Comparing a server that has been around for several years and is run by relatively normal people vs a new server run by a mentally ill troon and his troon boyfriend it's clear where you're better off investing your time.
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>>1184622
Back in 1999 the Druid was one of the best rounded classes
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>>1247620
>Is negro racist?? that's a new one to me.
Yes the Spanish language is extremely racists. No spics allowed
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>>1272139
I'm level 50 Necro now.
I've soloed, grouped, gone to all the dungeons, won a FBSS and other rare items, farmed other twink gear, made thousands of platinum, did my Temple of Sol quests, and joined a guild.
What more is there to do other than raiding? Raiding seems largely pointless to me.
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>>1277537
idk seems like you have the game pretty figured out
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>>1277537
Now you can prostrate yourself before King Troon and become a good pay piggy until he 42%s himself or the server
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>>1278834
the server could evaporate now and I'd be fine with it. I've gotten my classicish EQ experience.
I guess I'll come back when Kunark comes out and get 60 and experience all those zones.
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>>1278958
>the server could evaporate now and I'd be fine with it. I've gotten my classicish EQ experience.
Same. I've seen more classic EQ, notably raid encounters, on Quarm then I ever did on p99, for example. Quarm could vanish tomorrow and I'd have had more fun than the alternatives.

And done them without a hours of being in discord with screaming autists that spent last ten hours taking shifts watching spawn points to kill something with 2-3x the numbers necessary.

Notice that's not talked about. Just 'Muh troon'
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>>1279416
nobody talks about it because nobody cares about welfare pixels. also wtf do you mean "notably raid encounters"? how many raids do you think there are in classic? do you mean notably more than 0? lmao
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>>1279479
>welfare pixels
Most people consider racing cancerous, anon, and it's the biggest issue complained about on p99 I can think of. The ra- I mean 'end game.'

I mean, they are sort of welfare pixels when you do encounters with 2/3x the numbers, amirite?
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>>1279499
Based on the longevity of p99 it must not be that big of a issue
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>>1279789
Based on p99s population numbers it must be a huge issue
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>>1280004
there are 1500 players on p99 right now, are you mentally handicapped my good sir?
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>>1280052
Think he means over time, dur.

You'll note May 2023ish population blue/green (lol excluded rd sorry) is combined 2390 on best day.
And last week in May it is 1625.That's 32% of it's population.
Or to put it another way p99 is minus 765 people since last year. The steepest drop being when Quarm came out.

Quarm has also lost a lot of folks over 7 months but it's never been as low as either blue or green (independently, at least) and Quarm is expected to experience an increase with Kunark. Those players never returned to p99 in any significant number. Do you expect them to return?
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>>1280234
People are burned out on playing the same content over and over again? Wow that's crazy.
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>Krono will not be able to be consumed, traded, or sold on an Origins server.
holy shit I never thought they'd actually do this. I'm all in on the EQ2 Origins server now.
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>>1281417
hate to break it to you bud but i already have the private discord set up for RMT with krono. there's nothing in the game to detect what is a fraudulent or legit trade, and a lot of the major exploits are known and are being kept private. by all means play, but it's going to be another mischief tier explosion of p2w.
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>>1150064
I'm late to this thread, but May 22nd a new prog server comes out, and in June a prog server comes out for EQ2 that I'm really looking forward to

I work 40-50 hours a week, have a girlfriend I spend my weekends with, and exercise for an hour and a half everyday

With all that being said I'm looking forward to jumping back into the games even casually; been considering just subbing for a year even if I barely play the games

I make about 85k a year which isn't fuck you money, but it's enough money to where a $15 a month sub isn't going to break the bank for me.
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>>1281689
yeah no shit there will be third party RMT. that's every MMO ever.
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>>1281777
no, I don't think you understand. the level of exploits that are being kept secret make the mischief krono dupe look like a small known shippable. krono will still be the main currency of choice, just kept hidden. basically, there is a method to duplicate plat from trades in a specific area under specific conditions with a little client side undetectable modding. that's all I'll say, since I don't wanna risk it getting patched.
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>>1282392
uh huh
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>>1282392
>since I don't wanna risk it getting patched
why not? it'd be better for the game if it was
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>>1279479
>do you mean notably more than 0?
wdym? classic has like 5 raids. my guild raids 4 nights a week, so yes you can get significantly more raids than the 0 you'd get on p99.
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>>1283178
Well you see he needs to cheat for an advantage at a 20 year old PvE game
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>>1283245
>advantage
incorrect, i cheat for profit. since EQ1 and 2 have next to no moderation its incredibly profitable to spend a few hours cheating to sell the results to old people desperate for an advantage. in case you were wondering *why*, it's because on average everyone involved in the krono dupe fiasco made minimum $800 for next to no effort on our part.
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>>1283276
>cheat
you're making the world a worse place
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>>1283276
Cool. I screenshotted all your posts to send to Daybreak. I'll probably also post it on the reddit and forums.
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>>1283372
nta but the mischief dupe didn't really do anything so meh
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he’s begging and cringeposting again, don’t forget to donate quarmsisters!
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>>1150621
> but the people on P99 acted like if you weren't picking classes/race combos flawlessly and shit or anything similar, you may as well not even be playin
That's the result of a community playing 2 1/2 years worth of content over the course of 15 years.
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>>1282392
Sadly I believe you since I just got back into EQ2 after a 9 year hiatus. I had 14,000 plat and now I have 600,000,000 plat from selling shinies on the broker since shit goes for 5-50m. What happened to that game is a crime.
>>1283276
I see no reason to get upset with you, because ultimately this is entirely SoE/DBG's fault.
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>>1286226
ultimately me cheating does not impact the average player, i only brought it up because of the "no trading krono" post. krono will absolutely be a factor it'll just be traded on other servers, the duping will likely be patched faster than the krono dupe as it's not exactly hard to pull off. I don't envision a world where this effects anyone but someone trying to race to be #1.
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Old EQ GM here during the classic years and into Luclin/PoP (I was done by the start of PoP I think). I don';t know much about recent EQEmu servers like this aside from P99 (which may or may not be what you're seeking ), but more options are always welcome with different experiences. Maybe Quarm is worth it maybe its not

I was always a fan of Shards of Dalaya though, a smaller but completely custom server. Its basically like someone took all the assets of EQ and then reassembled them in a completely different way so its a fresh experience. Zones that used to be cities are dungeons and vice versa, custom NPCs etc...and it really gives the "fresh to EQ" experience when I played it, so it isn't like you've got a million multiboxing bot tards out there yelling about the meta. Check it out sometime
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>>1287306
>Maybe Quarm is worth it maybe its not
it's not
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>>1287306
sod is a straight up dead box nowadays
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>>1287408
Why so? I mean, I remember it being administered well, they didn't give donators some insane benefits that would make it totally imbalanced like some servers where only they can run bots/multibox'd etc, instead just a couple of tokens. Maybe more people want a traditional-ish EQ experience or something, but it seems like if a handful of anons wanted to try something new they could easily be in the top tier with even 100+ average users etc.
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>>1287306
hi shawn
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>>1287450
The last remaining holdouts went to quarm. 12 people online right now on a multibox server….. yeah stick a fork in it
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>>1287450
sod is as washed up as it gets. the only people still playing are mazed beyond belief
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>>1287967
>>1289582
Why would they go to Quarm if that's a primarily standard Luclin/PoP tech/era normal server, compared to SoD basically building something completely different than the instructions using the same lego set?

That said, I figure unless they totally shit the bed in the last year or something, it would be a good candidate for a bunch of anons looking for something different than typical MMOs to give it a try. I'm guessing they're not advertising or the newest hottest thing or have a bunch of streamers pushing it, but i imagine that it would only take relatively few people who had a good time there unless they fucked up the management or balance somehow since I remember playing there.
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I’m new to P99, which server should I play on to have the best chance at finding groups to level?
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>>1291078
Quarm
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>>1291078
Green
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>>1291078
Quarm for sure. Get in and have some fun before it disappears or everyone moves on.
I got my Necro to 50 and it was a ton of fun, apart from the fact that every time I see the word "Consortium" it sucks me back into the real world and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Great thing to have in a fantasy MMO game 10/10 very cool (sarcasm)
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>>1291078
Avoid Quarm. It's run by a troon and his troon boyfriend.
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>>1291239
>"Consortium"
Nigga, what?
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>>1292193
The troon replaced all references to gypsies with "consortium" because it was racist or something
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>>1292226
He reverted it back to Gypsy. Also I think he is detransitioning, he admitted he was just crossdressing and not an actual woman. Idk he's still a head case but Quarm is the best server out there currently.
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>>1292265
Seems unlikely considering he changed his pfp to his tranny face, why are you trying to run interference for troons?
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the gofundme goal has been doubled quarmsisters, hop to it!
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Daily reminder that you can play on this server without interacting with or giving any money to the admins
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>>1292265
>He reverted it back to Gypsy.
no he didn't
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>replaced all references to gypsies with "consortium"
>people actually play on this server
lmao explain yourselves Quarm sisters
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>>1292950
>replace Gypsy but not Kodiak
That makes no sense. Kodiak Bears are called that because they're from Kodiak Island in Alaska. So if they're going to remove a Earthly cultural ethnic term like Gypsy, why not that?
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>>1293070
apparently gypsy is a slur
but you'll never hear that from a gypsy unless they are grifting for clicks and funding
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Secrets and her girlfriend need our help quarmsisters, it’s hard when you can’t ever find or hold down a job. This definitely won’t happen again in another three months for sure
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>>1293523
Disgusting troon. Imagine playing on this abomination's server
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>>1292829
>no he didn't
Was changed back over weeks ago.
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>>1293726
>weeks
Three weeks ago with a post about keeping things accurate whether it's considered offensive or not.
Just bitch about the other stupid shit secrets does, there is plenty, no need to look retarded on a daily basis.
>Population is low
>Targeting
Pic
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>>1293726
>>1293750
Imagine samefagging just to lie
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>>1293758
>lie
Tell us more about your same-fagging and telling lies in this thread.
To be fair to you anon, as you just mash the keyboard hoping something coherent comes out, secrets did several weeks to post about it.
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is this the banned from quarm retirement home thread?
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>>1293789
You can't be banned by a troon if you never play on his server, anon.
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>>1293895
you could've fooled me with this much seethe. do continue obsessing over trannies while i enjoy p99. or perhaps consider moving discussion to everquest.
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>>1293777

Are there niggers in EQ or what
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>>1294496
ayo
>smacks lips
you tellin me
>flares obnoxiously large nostrils
you tellin ME
>starts casting Summon Fried Chicken
we sum finna
>your spell is interrupted
we wuz finna
>Police strikes YOU for 80 points of damage
weez sum
>LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
mages n shiiet
>You have entered Prison
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>>1294503
>dmo is dead forever
was the only fun guild on the server
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>>1294325
You're confusing amusement with seethe, tranny lover. Imagine simping for a troon when you - allegedly - don't even play on his doomed server lmao
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>>1295064
correct, i came here for discussion of EQ. not discussion of trannies. do you like EQ?
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>>1295189
This is a thread about quarm, not eq. Read the op next time.
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>>1295064
while im here for the moment, i apologize if not participating in your fetish offended you, but given the age of the playerbase and the google image/reddit filenames, I would feel comfortable to assume you're at a minimum 38, and at a maximum 50+ and dont go on 4chan often. Allow me to offer some advice, on 4chan (4ch for short), topics must pertain to the OP at hand, which is currently Project Quarm/EverQuest. Obsession over transgender individuals would fall under fetish content and therefore is off-topic. Adult to (presumably) adult, move discussion over to EverQuest, or please move on tourist.
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>>1295194
>Project Quarm EQ Server
wherein does the OP mention trannies?
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>>1295205
Quarm is a troon server therefore discussion of troons is on topic.
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>>1295229
incorrect, Quarm is an EQ server. Therefore discussion and obsession over the tranny owner is off topic. Same with discussion of Nilbogs life is offtopic.
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>>1295231
I'll never stop reminding people whose server they're playing on. Cry about it, faggot.
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>>1295232
based troon reminder
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>>1295232
>posts black nigga
at least be consistent anon
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>>1295360
Silly troon.
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>>1295232
how about a compromise?
for every troon related statement, you also make an EQ related statement? It can be in the same post, or separate posts.
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>>1295616
you shouldn't play on an EQ server run by a troon
how's that?
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>>1295633
don't be coy. you know what I mean
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>>1295633
do you actually know anything about EQ?
what's your favorite hybrid?
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>>1295661
Ranger.
Can a man get pregnant?
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>>1295666
what do you like about ranger?
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>>1295672
You have to answer my question first.
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>>1295666
Does a woman become a man if she gets a hysterectomy? She wouldn’t be able to get pregnant after all.
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>>1295990
can a man get a hysterectomy?
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>>1289603
>Why would they go to Quarm
because it has more than 50 people collectively playing it would be my guess. this is everquest after all, not a single player game.
i like the idea of sod, but the server has run its course and there is no one playing it anymore
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>more people on green than quarm
Oh nonono quarmsisters what happened?
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>>1296429
i could hazard a guess
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>>1296466
did something actually happen? or is it just the natural population decline because everyone is waiting for Kunark?
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>>1296035
I think that ANYONE should be able to force a surgeon to give them a hysterectomy if they truly believe that it is necessary. Whether a person has what you call "real" ovaries or not is NOT important. How a person feels on the inside about their own TRUE self is the only thing that matters and a doctor should NEVER have the right to refute that.
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>>1296726
it's been in classic for like the better half of a year, people got bored.
>>1296752
off-topic
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I only watched Quarm on twitch streams, so I'm not sure
But are / were the drop-rates of uncommon and rare drops set to 100%? Such as the manastone?
I thought that was incredibly lame and showing a lack of understanding about EQ
Instant gratification wasn't part of that and the audience still playing EQ 2 decades after would have moved on if they wanted that
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>>1296726
People realized the server owner is a ticking time bomb so they decided to stop wasting their valuable time there.
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>>1296891
even with a 100% drop rate on a select few items, the game is still far from instant gratification. It just goes to show you how badly the original devs fucked up the drop rates.
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>>1296923
even if the server lasts forever, every second of time you spend on it is a waste. Are you really gonna come back in 10 years time to look at your max characters?
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>>1296776
>it's been in classic for like the better half of a year, people got bored.
other issues with the server aside, i have no idea why people thought waiting this long in-between expansions was a good thing. id be willing to bet the redditors who were all gung ho for the idea quit too
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>>1297295
I don't know about you but I don't want to be playing every quest every day, or even every week.
I got my Necro to max level and I "quit" because I'm done with the game for now. It'll be nice to go back in 3 or 4 months with Kunark and know there will be a leveling population.
On a TLP I'd be left in the dust.
The time between expansions is a feature.
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>>1296726
>everyone is waiting for Kunark?
Yes. Like half of most guilds at this point. People either geared up their mains (and sometimes alts) and are just waiting on Kunark and / or have an iksar package ready to go once iksar can leave the island (there is a reason feathers are so overpriced right now).
June and July 1st are going to be interesting times.
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Does this game get better later on?
I tried playing Shadow Knight and Druid on official servers but felt like I was going to fall asleep.
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>>1297476
No. It's a relic of an era when simply playing a game in a shared world with thousands of people was novel and exciting. The gameplay itself is shallow and boring af.
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>>1297476
nope. dungeon crawling can be fun, but the devs decided to make it way more efficient to plant your ass in 1 spot and never leave. if you want to play this game but with an actual story, gameplay, and a better community (subjective), check out FF11.
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>>1297562
95% of ff11 is also grinding mobs in 1 spot, what?
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>>1297476
Official is dead as fuck. Either play Quarm or don't bother.
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>>1297476
Official is dead as fuck. Either play P99 or don't bother.
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>>1297798
correct, but it also has an actual story you can follow, better teamplay mechanics, less focus on degenerate shit like non-instanced raiding, and actual side content like gathering chocobo races and MUCH better dungeon design. Don't take this as me disliking everquest, but if someone doesn't like everquest at level 5, they'll still dislike it at level 60 because everquest really only has 3 things you can do. Level, camp, raid. I love the game for what it is, but FF11 offers far more to someone who didn't like EQ.
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>>1298007
xi is a janky mess, sadly. doing just about anything in the game feels like you're currently experience packet loss
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Just stopping in to say Teek is fun as fuck. It has been a very chill experience so far and there's a lot of people who absolutely blow ass at it (tanks that pull multiple deep reds and die in seconds, enchanters that don't mez, clerics that don't heal, everything) and some people who clearly know what they're doing so it's a wide distribution of players and no one has been raging that I've seen. Might turn to shit in the future, but it's good for now. Queue times to get onto the server are a bit of a bitch though depending on when you try to log in. The server is packed.
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>>1300079
Packed with bots
Also
>real time class/race switching
Totally kills the spirit of the game
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>>1300190
You know what else kills the spirit of the game?
Troons.
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>>1300190
While I do agree with your sentiment, at least it gets you out of playing a guild bot if you want to raid. Account sharing has ruined the spirit of EQ more than anything else.
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>>1301615
This is a good point. There were no troons in 1999.
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>>1301615
Thankfully I've never heard much of their bullshit in game. It's only when you visit discord. And oddly enough, it's never a topic of discussion, it's just a bunch of fools humoring the mental illness or deluding themselves into belief.
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>>1302060
There was a tranny on p99 green named Sohra who faked his own death or some shit and people held an in-game memorial for him and everything. I chuckled pretty hard when I saw him on Quarm.
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>>1302461
i bet he feels so heckin validated now that he's playing on a literal troon server
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>>1150064
>tons of actual EQ art out there
>uses Dragonlance art for his EQ server
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>>1302699
I was on the discord once and some cutie was streaming their gameplay. I joined the call and I'm immediately greeted by a manly voice saying hello.
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>>1305718
>their
just say him you faggot
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>>1306206
>I was on the discord once and some cutie was streaming him gameplay.
Why are you so retarded?
Plus at that point in the story I thought it was girl so the choice is either 'their' or 'her'
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>>1300190
I don't get the people who are upset about the bots, you just go to a different pick and thank them for crashing the price on everything. People are just pissed they can't sell a full set of banded armor for a Krono and they're even more pissed that you can just buy a Krono and beat any sort of plat inflation created by botters which ends up being an inconsequential amount relative to the gear they flood the market with. My issue is there's just not a lot of good groups because everyone is already hyper-cliquey.
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the gofundme has been updated quarmsisters! get to it!
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>>1307210
do americans really pay 28k to go to the hospital what the fuck is wrong with your country
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>>1307223
she's been grifting pretty hard the past few months. seems highly suspicious she also got hit with a huge medical bill just in time to garner sympathy.
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>>1307249
>she
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>>1244047
>>1244303
>eh it's not gonna be true true cause a lot of that stuff was fully lost from old devs
EQ2 from Nov 2004 was an unfinished product and throughout 05 was going through update after update changing how things worked at a fundamental level. The biggest change came with LU13 which was the release of Desert of Flames in September 2005 and many could argue this transition ended with the Fallen Dynasty update in June 2006 with the tradeskill revamp with Echoes of Faydwer acting as the relaunch of the game later that year.
I don't not miss the having to grind 20 levels to see if you like your subclass, group debt, subcombines, access quests for every single facet of the game, no collection tab ect.
In fact I wish new Freeport was kept, the beta reminds me how bland and vacant old Freeport was in some areas. At least the loading isn't an issue like it was back in 04-06 when the harbors were single digit frames at times.
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>>1307223
>he wants to tax payer to pay for cutting this trannies dick off
Do Europoors really?
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>>1306285
You knew it was a man as of typing that post so the only correct option is his
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>>1307223
No, he owes $1k.
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>>1307684
it's always trannies with you americans
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>>1308043
>y-you're obsessing over us..erm I mean them! Not like me, who obsesses over America day in and day out!
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>>1307210
>troons name is edward
lmao this freak never changed his name?
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>700 people on green
>1000 people on quarm for kunark launch
ohnononono quarmsisters what is our cope going to be? i thought we were going back to 2k+?
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>>1311514
quarm sissies in denial LMAOOOOOOOO server is deader than a decaying skeleton
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>>1308355
kek gottem
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Reminder that this tranny is just grifting for money to troon out with
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>>1315067
>quarm paypiggies literally paid for a tranny to get his dick split
Laughing harder every fucking day lmao.
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going to try out the EQ2 stuff going on, what about EQ1? anything else worth looking into besides p99 and quarm? p99 is just too autistic about muh classic for me to have fun playing it and i'm not playing on quarm ever.
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>>1315340
nevermind on the retail stuff
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>>1315348
oof
glad I held off on subbing for the EQ2 server
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>>1307210
>im between jobs
no, you quit your corporate development position to focus on your shitty video game private server, you faggot.
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>>1298346
>xi is a janky mess
>implying classic eq isn’t
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>>1315703
once it gets out he was able to grift thousands of dollars off this community he won't be the last to do it. probably going to fuck everything up and get all the servers shut down.
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>>1315709
eq jank is manageable and still more responsive despite being the older game. gooks just cant program for shit lmao
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>>1307210
>survival funds
ironic considering he probably will wind up offing himself at some point like they always do
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>>1317665
i just find XI's complete reliance on macros a pain. macros are useful in EQ and depending on your class can make them easier or harder to play but in XI you can't use an ability without setting macros. and the UI just sucks in general, XIV at least got that right for its controller based UI.

>>1317669
he was streaming on Teek yesterday for like 8 hours. DEFINITELY someone distressed because he's between jobs, DEFINITELY not just a lazy tranny grifting the EQ community because people are desperate for a QoL alternative to p99's autism.
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>>1317795
>he doesnt type in all of his commands manually
ngmi + skill issue
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>>1197689
>With Monsters and Memories on the horizon I'd rather just wait instead of going from one grandfest to the next.
Same. I like that they developers have chosen not to take any money. No patron, no kickstarter, Hell not even twitch subs. When asked about it by people trying to give them money they said " Just take the money you would give us and invest it and
when the game launches in a few years you can pay for the sub with the profits."
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>>1197689
>>1317881
i don't know about "on the horizon" but i'd say it's more promising than Pantheon (literally never ever going to come out) and they've made a ton of progress. i tried a test last year and the game wasn't even remotely playable, the mechanics and everything were there but technically you're talking about like a 15+ second delay on everything. tried out a test last night and it's a lot smoother, but the majority of the test was them bringing the servers up and down constantly. i just don't see that being fully playable anytime soon.
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>monsters and memories cope
its gonna be dogshit because the playerbase it is meant to appeal to is dogshit and will ruin it. absolutely no doubt in my mind.
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>>1318014
It's gonna be dogshit because EQ is and always was dogshit with mind numbingly boring gameplay.
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>>1317977
>i just don't see that being fully playable anytime soon.
and the devs agree. There shooting for early access in 2026. They have a stream almost every week with one of the team working on the game se you can see in real time their progress.
>pretty good for some old folks just pitching in time after work to build something
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>>1318014
>>1318075
So happy that filter is working as intended.
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>>1318111
yeah that seems pretty reasonable, just a shame it's so far out.
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>king troon talking about getting his balls chopped off for hours in bluegen
totally normal and natural behaviour, glad quarm is in such good hands
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>>1318111
>2026
I'd consider that soon.
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>>1317795
xi's complete reliance on macros is just absurd, especially with using them to swap gear around which turns the entire game into a spreadsheet(more so than other mmos)
>>1318014
it will suck because its not 1999 anymore where chatting with strangers online is an innovative idea. what makes eq cool is the class design, but the actual gameplay is shit because its too slow to encourage socialization that no one cares about anymore
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>>1318915
>xi's complete reliance on macros is just absurd, especially with using them to swap gear around which turns the entire game into a spreadsheet(more so than other mmos)
this was more or less why i dropped the game. you start to reach a point where you're more theorycrafting and fucking with macros than really playing the game which is just all wrong for a grindan MMO like this.

i think M&M might be okay because it's more of a niche concept. p99 was okay for not having everyone tucked away in discords, more than any modern MMO or online game you play nowadays at least. discord normies seem to prefer their MMRslop type games.
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>>1319246
M&M is trying too hard to carbon copy EQ. It's OK to make some new systems that keep the game more engaging in CY+9. Vanguard had some interesting ideas with the way it handled group combat. Something like that would be nice.
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>>1319407
i don't think it's trying to be a carbon copy, it's more like Everquest+. the methodology is the complete opposite of p99 where those guys would ban you for not using a CRT monitor and playing on a 56k modem if they could.
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>>1319791
you should play quarm if it bothers you, its eq without any of the grind
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>>1319791
that is a really apt comparison because a lot of the things they care about are either misremembered or more likely they never actual experienced
i had broadband like 2 years before EQ for instance
the same shit happened with wow classic, but at least you had the official original source to know how things actually were
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>>1319830
i don't play on servers run by grifting trannies that censor a 25 year old elf simulator.

at this point i think i'd rather play a single player server with player bots or something but AFAIK there aren't selfhost modules like WoW, Runescape and some other games have.

>>1319834
i don't mind the concept of trying to emulate 1999 as much as possible, it's forcibly disabling basic QoL stuff baked into the Titanium client that bothers me rather than making the changes optional. everyone just uses parse map type programs that tell you where you are based on your ingame coordinates anyway, why can't we just cut the middle man out? it's so retarded.
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>>1319844
>everyone just uses parse map type programs that tell you where you are
Doing everything you can to basically cheat is classic. Hope this helps.
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>>1319844
i dont use parse maps since I have the whole game memorized, so you're wrong. In fact, i would be willing to bet they are a lot less common on p99 than you think they are. what missing qol stuff specifically bothers you
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>>1319844
>>1320177
>i would be willing to bet they are a lot less common on p99 than you think they are.
Nobody I know on P99 needs map parsers, because like you said, we’ve had the maps memorized for decades.
Quarm sissies on the other hand are all massive noobs that need all the “QoL” they can get, in an already gimped version of the game.
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there's no reason to lie on an anonymous forum
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>>1320391
>its not true for me so everybody else is lying
thats a strong indicator of autism btw, also most people on p99 have been playing for at least 10+ years, it is really that unbelievable? the vast majority of zones are incredibly sparse with only a few points of interest and only connected to 2 or 3 other zones. even the skyrim map is more complicated, and ill bet you have no issue believing people have that memorized
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>>1320441
>massive open field
>city in the middle
>3 POIs in triangle around city
>paths leading to every exit
>HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THIS???
even kelethin is easily manageable once you realize the entire city is useless and you only need the bank.
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>>1320210
>memorized
if you didn't have the map memorized you'd use a map parser because your autistic desire to maximize exp gains would override any sense of fun and adventure of figuring things out on your own.
you're all the same.
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>projecting this hard
embarrassing
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hes having an emotional meltdown and crying for attention again
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>>1315348
That's the game industry in a nutshell at this point
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>>1319407
Vanguard had so much potential. Had Brad Mcquaid not been a pure fucked up drug addict, maybe we could've gottem something great. But damn did that game run like pure shit when it came out and was no where close on being ready.
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>>1319791
>>1319834
Yeah I knew someone who had broadband in late 90s. Very rare, but some did have it. Of course even 56k wasn't the norm since it only came out a half year prior to EQ1. Most just used a 28.8k modem.
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>>1320441
Karanas come to mind when it comes to being sparse. Lot of nothing. Whenever someone defends the size of those zones with "the world feels so big though!" and my reaction is "it feels so empty" Unusually large zones.
>>1320511
I never understood why people had nostalgia for Kelethin. Even during the mid 2000s when EoF came out for EQ2. I guess its because of "Everquest was my first videogame and I once fell to my death from Kelethin...oh the memories!"
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>>1323567
Kelethin has the best city music in the game, simple as
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*extorts your character you've spent thousands of hours leveling*
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>>1323584
Out of the original MIDI's? Perilous Journey and Toxxulia Forest
https://youtu.be/RPTQq5ylyhU
https://youtu.be/1WKPRGpEykY
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>>1323567
>I never understood why people had nostalgia for Kelethin.
most people probably played wood or half elves so that contributed to a large number of people starting in kelethin as opposed to erudin or something. gfay music is also one of the game's many great tracks
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>>1324163
survive what?
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>>1325133
being unemployed
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>>1324163
is he already threatening to take the server down if people don't fund his mental illness? I told you retards this would happen
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>>1325489
He had a huge melty a couple days ago where he alluded to it multiple times, although he did also keep saying that the other head tranny would keep things running if something happened to him
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>>1325489
>I told you retards this would happen
Every EQ server is going to come down eventually.
While you were complaining about that, I was playing on Quarm and leveled up a char.
Now I'm playing on Teek.
It doesn't matter if Quarm comes down.
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>>1325679
i knew quarm was a grift when they couldnt fix the camera issue and just spent 17 hours a day policing the discord instead
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>>1325679
Disregarding this massive cope; the main selling point of Quarm over P99 was going past Velious content. That's never going to happen lmao.
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>>1325921
does it seem like I care about post Velious content?
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>>1325777
>fixing the camera
No, it's old school and true classic era cameras
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>>1326328
you're one person and certainly not representative of the majority of retards playing on Quarm. good on you for getting what you wanted out of the troon's server I guess
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>>1326328
well you’re choosing to play on a server whose selling point is post Velious content, rather than the alternative, so I would have guessed “yes”.
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>>1326444
hi secrets, dont you have money to be begging for?
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>>1326328
Velious is overrated and the only reason SoL gets shit is because the scope of the expansion was far too big for just a year in development from everything to the amount of zones, content, and the graphical overhaul. But otherwise than that SoL is more like Kunark in that it catered to all levels and had various entry/exit points to overland zones along with multiple themes outside of snow, snow, ice and more snow textures.
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>>1315348
>>1315357
>hey maybe I could check out this new origins server, eq2 was interesting
>see this
yep, all interest lost
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>>1157466
As someone who is an avid mmo player (Solo always), I have proven to myself time and time again, the post 2016 playerbase of every game is absolute shit
>Dont get me started on free2play game communities
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Damn I didn't know there was a EQ thread on this site, I use to post in one that was in I think /VR/ a few years back when green first launched.

I'm about to play P99 again, do you guys have a guild on there or group and shit?
I tried to return to Quarm run by the mentally ill man but running around on that server is disgusting, just tons of boomers in free raiding gear/ faggot pink rubicite knockoff and fun server ezmode bullshit like bankers in the tunnel.

I hate I wasted a month on that pos but it made me realize how garbage chasing the legacy items were, guise and rubi really don't mean shit once you own them and if green 2 ever happens again I'm just going to make a chanter and rush CT for a rubi chest then just chill after that everything else is not worth it.
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>>1326749
There used to be, but afaik the guilds are dead.
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>>1326532
velious added tofs and the class design was starting to get good so it will always be a gg expansion. luclin is also my favorite eq era
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>>1325133
shut up chud!
xer needs more shaving cream for his 5'o clock shadow and he needs 5 star restaurant meals 4 times a day so his mental psyche can survive running emulator software he didnt create!
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>>1326749
>ezmode bullshit like bankers in the tunnel
kek. a banker in a tunnel isn't what makes the game easy. the game is already mind numbingly easy. adding time saving convenience doesn't change anything.
remember, grind =/= difficulty
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>>1330708
t. ranny
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>>1330708
But to be serious the reason races like iksar/ogre/troll have giga mode stats is because they have added difficulty navigating the world in vanilla, the trade off for not having to pay some faggot loser boomer thousands of plat for TBB and other str items as a weak wristed faggot elf race is the fact you need to fucking sneak around in sewers or hike it back to your homeland to offload and retrieve things.

Tunnel bankers removes that and yes that is actually a fun portion of the game, sneaking around and finding new safe routes was fun but I don't expect a mentally ill grown man with a thinning hairline and poorly applied makeup to think about this because you're a faggot that only plays gay shit like high elf
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>>1330730
brother you have no idea how easy the game is for you
try dealing with 5 minute zone times when you need to go to north freeport to bank
and the freeport bank is literally the dumbest one for you to make for your "evil is supposed to be annoying" as half of the good classes would be KoS in the non-north freeport zones
hell I was KoS just from farming the guards and turning in their helmets
that being said I think the banker should only be there on saturdays
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>>1330956
minmax boomers rolling evil races for minmax purposes do have it easier because they know where to go and avoid but there are a few players who still play those races because they think monster races are cool and they get npc ganked often
tons of newbie trolls and ogres get fucked by the bard in swamp all the time but yet again ugly faggot loser secrets made the bard rooted to stop letting people exploit letters after he let his faggot butt buddies abuse it early on so you can't even get killed by him anymore
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who is on Teek?
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>>1327101
Yeah TOFS was the exception, it was a good mid level dungeon. Outside of that, anytime a server went post-SoV, people would just venture as far as GD to grind levels on wurms and venturing to and past KD was usually moot unless you were an army of sweats looking for a specific raid drop. I just never cared for the linear layout of the overland zones being between choke point dungeons like KD, SS and SG. Also the three faction system for that expansion was retarded. Why would anyone pick anything outside of Coldain when all of the loot is focused on the dragons and giants?
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>>1333588
You don’t really pick a faction if you are an actual raider since you are gonna be killing all 3 factions. Also, armor quests (and other quests) require giant/dragon faction. doing just one aow/dain/dragon raid will take you out of aggro range even from max kos with the other two so it doesn’t even matter anyway. I’m not sure I believe you played velious for any substantial amount of time based on your statement. At least raiding wise.
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>>1333664
>At least raiding wise.
Never once said I was a raider.
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They're adding OOC regen to Teek next Wednesday.
I've never played with OOC regen, but it sounds like it will make massive swathes of spells and abilities redundant.
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>>1333588
they were definitely experimenting when they made the triad of factions in velious. it was probably a radical idea for the genre at the time
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>>1334289
Everquest always suffered from the fact that expansions were never left in the oven longer before being taken out and instead focusing on refinement or addition to current content. Velious could've been more along with the faction system if it wasn't an expansion released less then 8 months from Kunark because Verant/SoE firmly believed that if poopsockers (whom were the most dedicated subscribers) weren't pleased, then they'd immediately quit the game.
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>>1334599
it probably didnt help that losers like tigole and furor were so loud on their shitty website and yet somehow all these boomers thought they should market towards them

WoW would have exploded regardless if it had raiding or not, and it's so unfortunate the genre was subjected to shitty raiding when such a small part of the mmorpg population actually engages with it or enjoys it.
I've played EQ since 2000, been on and off on P99 for over a decade and I've never raided or been above lvl 40 but that early journey is just so addicting and good it makes me come back time and time again every other year.
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>>1334614
>didnt help that losers like tigole and furor were so loud on their shitty website
damn what a bunch of faggots.
Velious would be so awesome if it was a normal expansion for leveling and stuff. it's such a cool world to explore.
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>>1334614
>all these boomers thought they should market towards them
Brad McQuaid was only 3 years older than Jeff Kaplan (Tigole). John Smedley is only 4 years older.
Neither of which were boomers either since they were born after 1965.
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>>1334636
here comes mr nerd
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>>1334723
He or you was implying there was some type of generational age gap of EQ Devs and WoW devs, which there wasn't.
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>>1334857
boomer is just an insult to imply someone is making bad decisions because they aren't thinking ahread
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>>1334857
I think your old boomer brain is making you senile lil old bro
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>>1335017
>>1335140
I know it's a meme, but there are legit people out there who use it in a positive connotation and do indeed think there is a generational gap between EQ and WoW devs. Part of that is because EQ is made up of genuine boomers on the verge of being geriatric.
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Is anyone hopping onto this official EQ2 launch era server?
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>>1336439
When's it start? I might play it for a few minutes if it's before Quarm Kunark launch. >>1336425
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>>1336461
Three hours.
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>>1336461
>still playing shitty quarm with the worse devs and community on the net
lmao
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Never played EQ2. Does Origins suck or would it be a decent place to check it out?
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>>1319791
>>1319407
MnM isn't a carbon copy but it does take some areas of its EQ "inspiration" a bit too far. Like with the classes. A lot of that is just straight up copy pasted from EQ. I like that they're taking an oldschool approach to the game's design but they need to take a few more steps further from EQ so that it feels more like its own game rather than some Unity based EQ mod. They need to do more to make it less familiar feeling to those who have played EQ.
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>>1336922
I've never played EQ2 either but ponied up the $15 sub to try it out and it's alright so far. Tons of people playing, most are the lifers but there are a good chunk of first timers as well. Everyone seems helpful, but the server has a definite "race to max level" vibe in chat. You HAVE to group, it's a true pre-WoW experience. They kind of half assed some stuff. Equipment stats in tooltips are fucked up and a lot of the menus are from the modern game which have 20 years worth of game mechanics built in to them that aren't useable in era.

I also think I fucked up bad by rolling Ranger but I'm already seven hours in and I'm not slogging through the noob island again.
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>>1337173
Seems like it's pretty heavy on quests. Is that all you do while leveling? I can't take another quest hub chore fest.
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>>1337182
I think so. I spent those seven hours 100%ing the noob island and it was really quest heavy. From what I gathered from reading vets in chat the questing kind of dries up around level 30 and I think max level is 50. I think it's a relic from them rushing the game out the door back in 04.
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>>1337189
I wonder how long it takes to get to 30. I'm interested in the group play but going through a quest chore list makes me wanna kms after like 15 minutes.
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>>1337189
>>1337199
Looking at twitch there's some dudes killing stuff in some dungeon at 13 or 14 so maybe you can skip the questing earlier than that.
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>>1336993
yeah I noticed that too and normally I don't mind it but a lot of the later more overpowered EQ spells are set to low as fuck levels in M&M for example the bread and butter bard kite from EQ
>speed song // dot song // regen song
is all available within the first 5 lvls and people were already literally kitingand dotting down lvl 20 blood red monsters in the 2nd zone abusing bards

They def need to add in some modern mechanics to avoid having some classes legit be cheat code classes to the entire game like bards/shamans/chanters/pet classes were

the mob was a spider, just steal WoWs spider root ability and it casts it if its main aggro target is X yards away etc to combat gay shit like that

But also chriping on about balance when its not even a proper alpha is also goofy and I'm sure they'll balance things as the game gets closer to release, it's going to be a BIG game for sure when it hits the polish stage.
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>>1336611
idk I've been playing on Teek, and Quarm is a masterpiece compared to that shit.
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>>1337315
their stubbornness on repeating even the failures of everquest isn't a good sign imo. I asked the devs once what their plan was for when everyone inevitably races to max level is. How would new players group up? I suggested a party sync feature from FF11 with a range of around 10 levels. Their response was "well, it's not an issue because people will just make alts". Instantly red flags went off in my head that they aren't thinking about the future of the project, just getting it out and seeing what happens. Which, sure, it's indie and being done in spare time. But they're going to charge a subscription fee, you have to start taking your product seriously when you do that especially a massively multiplayer RPG.
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>>1337401
lmao lil bro stfu
little baby bitch u have never played a real mmorpg thank god they didnt listen to your shit suggestion
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>>1337336
more like mastershit with that ugly dude secrets at the helm
its basically a fun server full of boomers at that point just go make your own in 5 seconds and use emulator bots to play with
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>>1337450
what
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>>1334218
Sounds alright, Wizards might actually be able to med properly/do some damage even with blowing out a mana bar before everything spawns but now Rogues are even shittier because mana regen after pulls is that much faster.
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>>1337315
>is all available within the first 5 lvls and people were already literally kitingand dotting down lvl 20 blood red monsters in the 2nd zone abusing bards
Obviously this sort of shit is a problem but mainly I just want them to be a bit more original.

>>1337401
>their stubbornness on repeating even the failures of everquest isn't a good sign imo
This is a big one. I don't mind them copying concepts from EQ but they should stop to think about what they're copying as not all of it is good and some of it needs to be modernized. I'm interested to see how the game develops but interacting with the team I have definitely seen some of that stubbornness and I worry how it will affect the final product.
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Can’t wait to see the meltys after people realize monsters and memories is dogshit after huffing copium for years
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I have a 6 Rogue on Teek if anyone wants to group up. I don’t know where else to post this to look for anons.
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>>1337315
It is 2 years from a playable version at the earliest.
I have seen in the higher zones or dungeons that mobs getting class levels is pretty nuts.
>cleric skelly using GATE!
>Bard Arsha making the wolfs very fast and heal over time

I am sure they will add more abilities to mobs to stop the simple Kite Dot trick.
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>>1337731
If you don't like the old school feel of Everquest and the jank that is it's mechanics then surprise surprise you will not like M&M.

From what I have gathered from the M&M site they want to make EQ with some added stuff.
If that is what they want to do and find it worth their time I don't see the problem.

I would love to get 2 buds together and explore the world without maps or glowing things above quest givers. So I will look into it if it gets playable.
If doesn't have mass appeal then good. I want something not made for the lowest common denominator.
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>>1337778
in game type /join 4chan
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>>1337452
are you genuinely transphobic or are you just trolling? If it's the latter I'll be extremely disappointed.
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>>1337836
Looking forward to your inevitable disappointment and meltdown
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>>1337862
you'll probably only be the other anon though. I've never seen anyone else
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>>1336674
>fresh new character battling a level 1 rat
>miss a dozen times in a row and die
>delete character because he's clearly cursed and destined for failure
Some things can't be helped.
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>>1337731
I've already played it, you gay boy.
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>>1337864
go shave your beard and cover up your adams apple little dude
Anyway P99 is the best everquest server by far.
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Did the low level scene die on Quarm already? Should I just go to p99?
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>>1337893
Seeing others have fun and enjoy life must edge you one step closer to finally putting that gun in your mouth and ending your parents disappointment once and for all.
>coming on to a cantonese underwater basket weaving forum to bitch about niche games that has a niche audience
Get help or you might as well jump
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>>1338048
kek you're too dumb to understand my reply
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oh no
oh no
i was thinking about evercrack the other day
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>>1338217
and you're too gay to understand mine
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>>1338203
Stay mad lmao
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>>1338238
Oh no.
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>>1338256
this is starting to get embarrassing
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>>1337523
yeah after trying it out it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. A good group can pull enough that realistically you'll never hit the rest state.
And for soloing, regen abilities will still matter because you'll be medding while your pet/dots/whatever kills the target, and that can be a good chunk of time.
I still think OOC regen is retarded though. It should not be a free ability that everyone just gets for being alive. It should be a skill, like Bind Wound, and there should be spells and such that enhance it. Seems like a good niche ability for a ranger.
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how much would I hate myself if I tried to play a wizard on p99 or quarm as a relative noob to eq?
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>>1338387
Wizard is great if you like to semi afk grind, but you are looking for a more active play style then I would recommend something else
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>>1338388
what does semi afk grind look like? what class would be an active play style in eq?
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>>1338389
Semi afk for wizard is basically dumping your entire mana bar into a mob (or quad when you get high enough) to kill it quickly and then afk for 5-10 minutes until you are full mana again. Rinse and repeat. More active classes are classes that can fear kite (ranger, sk, necro) or charm (bard, enchanter, necro, druid) or to a lesser extent root rotting. This isn’t an exhaustive list but you get the idea. This only considers splaying solo though, ideally if you are in a group you will “actively” be playing the game regardless of your class.
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>>1337836
>make EQ with some added stuff.
hopefully they are making EQ with a complete rethink of every mechanic in the game. OG EQ is filled with a ton of half baked ideas that just need a little tweaking.
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>>1338478
>a complete rethink of every mechanic
>half baked ideas that just need a little tweaking
Aren't these like total opposites?
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>>1338482
no.
First, think about the mechanic (rethink)
Then, improve it with what you learned.
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>>1338478
I don't know why so many fags keep saying this, just roll ranger and it's actually fun and not shit like EQ ranger
Everyone bitching about quarm hasn't touched a single one of their tests and played when it wasn't lagging
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>>1338507
thats true, I haven't tried it. I'll try it next chance j get.
also Quarm has been great
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>>1338509
I typed quarm instead of M&M but nah quarm is shit and filled with retards
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>>1338510
>noooo you can't have full DMG dots when the mob is mooooving nooooo the spawn rate is too fast.
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>>1338513
t. ranny
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>>1336439
No. >>1315348
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>>1338437
I'd much rather stick to parties if they're available but I guess the occasional soloing wouldn't be terrible if it's that
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>>1338478
I have just looked into it and was liking the look of it and the music. I caught a dev stream and I liked their attitude on Fixing/changing things to make things easier. Instead of just changing the world they want players to affect it.

>Shit is fuck all dark if you don't have a torch at night and even lowlight vision is hard to see
Maybe add a skill for the archer to do a "Star Light" Shot to light up the battle field for a while.

>Corpse Runs are too brutal
They are supposed to be.
Maybe having the Necro have a spell that makes your corpse slow walk to you.

I love that kind of shit. Instead just making the night less dark give skill and stuff for players to help and makes you want to try out different classes and ask for different party slots.
Keeping the problem of the one class can do it all and once you max lvl you don't feel the want to try some new class.

Oh and Beard with Fists that by lore came from stone that was soaked in Titan blood is just great.
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>>1338881
They also encourage players to create campfires which not only acts as a beacon showing you there's other players in the area (thus feeling safer) but you gain a exp bonus if you sit and rest at it, I ended up making a few friends when just medding at 6+ and we grouped up venturing further out finding new cool mobs like shambler zombies who dropped rawhide armor often helping everyone get fully equipped as we grinded them.
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>>1338881
>male female
based
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can i play this shit or linux or will i need to setup pci passthrough

also have they nerfed necros? being an autist and soloing all the way to the top is my style
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>>1150064
>when your franchise is so artistically derivative that to promote shit you use equally derivative artwork from discount fantasy novels at the grocery store
I saw shit like that promoted for EQ2 few days ago on /v/ as well.
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>>1337836
It's going to be a total flop because its a small pool of people you're trying to target. The only place it will potentially siphon players from is the small but dedicated group of people playing P99 or Project Quarm. Then they'll realize its not as good and go back to their emu servers.
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>>1337173
You don't need to level in the noob island and just skip to the newbie yards around the two cities.
>but the server has a definite "race to max level" vibe in chat.
Of course it does. This is why I don't have faith that this server won't become top heavy in two weeks. Unlike P99 or Quarm where you can hop and in find people to group very quickly. EQ2 on the other hand always had that issue though. It was a pure bitch to find people to help go through the class quests in 2005 because they required a group to complete at level 18-20. Otherwise you were hardcapped at your level until you completed it. At least that's not in Origins. Fuck that shit.
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>>1337636
>Obviously this sort of shit is a problem but mainly I just want them to be a bit more original.
As much shit as I gave Brad for the development of Vanguard, at least he was interested on doing new things, unlike the fanbase that stemmed off of EQ which is unoriginal as all fuck and just wants to make a weird imitation of it, warts and all.



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