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I really want for honor 2 to come soon, because I missed out on the initial popularity boom that for honor had when it came out and I think that'd be fun to experience, however I know for sure that my pc won't be able to handle it
anyone else feel like this?

>>1403319
i dont want for goner 2, the game is doomed no matter what, ubisoft reputation is worse that is was seven(!?) years ago. On a personal level i don't think i would play it, i really like FH despite everything, and playing a new, curated version won't be the same
>>1403212
didn't seen that perk guide before, is good someone still make OC, ty

>>1403368
It's from the old /vg/ days, one of the few things that's still relevant.

>>1403212
>that fuckin perk guide
>fresh focus being above Bulk Up or Last Stand
>Last Stand in Niche tier
Last Stand regularly saves my ass, especially when antiganking where it makes my revenge shields and VB shields matter way more
yes Fresh Focus is useful, but it's not significantly better than LS unless you're just awful at stamina management

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>>1403498
Fresh Focus completely shuts down OOS pressure in half the time since it's a flat 20% per ticks, so if you block a single off-lock multihit, you can instantly recover 100% stamina in a 1vX scenario. Against OOS pressure fighters like BP or Glad it's a massive way to tip the scales toward you in a time they expect to have a longer window, and it almost entirely shuts down a Jorm no matter what way you play into them. Block->Light OOS Truecombos all of a sudden don't exist if they're not throwing them immediately on OOS, and they always fall for it (which after the first time, it's usually over). No other perk in the game can just shut out entire champions (Rocksteady and Thick Blood were literally removed from the game because they did the same thing, on a Feat, let alone a Perk), it helps you avoid OOS wallsplats and enables you to play more aggressively with your stamina since you're harder to punish. Sounds like a shittercrutch on paper, but it's always been huge.
Last Stand is complete fucking RNG as to if you're going to get value out of it, since it only applies after the value is set in the red zone (aka, if you go from 35->2HP, you only get LS on the remaining 2) - and it's not based on 25%, it's 25 flat HP before it kicks in (so multiple heroes can just skip it entirely, so it's no value). 10 effective HP only on VB is a near direct-downgrade to both Remedy and Devour, which are both permanently active and both do almost the same more often. The revenge shield boost is nice as a niche, but most of the time you're not going to burn it down, but rather time it out - you get more than enough HP to play with unless you're 1v3, in which case the timer will still kill you, and in 1v4 they don't give a fuck about the 40% increase. Sounds like some deeplore secret trick, it's actually shit once you run the numbers.
Bulk Up is less than 1 light, and is, again, outmatched by Devour and Remedy.

It's old, but Feats haven't changed in forever.

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Lol why is highlander heavy attacks so fast lol all I get was spamming dodge heavy and his 50/50 caber kick Spam. Shaman still annoying to fight in duel, and I still don't have a rep 80-90 character lol til this day

Love you For honor.

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>>1403212
>getting bored of my current games
>see this thread
>used to play FH a ton (BP -> Warmongrel), but forgot why I dropped it
>remember they fucked up Breach by making it a retardbrawl deathmatch mode from a objective-focused fighting-strategy hybrid
>remember that the Core Combat Update made console unplayable, since input delay meant that while PC now got the previous console experience that I loved, console now got unplayable lightspam)
>it's still around, fuck it, try it out again, neither reason really stands out to me as a reason why I'd drop entirely
>maybe it was just straws that broke the camels back after general burnout, an hey, might be fun just to dork around and lightspam as warlord, JJ, cent or nobu (secondary mains) for a bit

>check out all my old fashion, cool shit + new stuff is cool too
>new fighters, all look cool, wonder how obnoxious they are
>boot up the testing grounds, try my old main shinobi

cont

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>getting back into the basic swing of things, double-lights, pin heavy, double-dash, fuckin weebrunning it's all coming back
>>why the fuck is top heavy pin unblockable? that's kensei's gimmick
>>why do I not have a reflex guard any more?
>>why is the timing on the pin lights off?
>alarm bells are ringing, shit I don't like, tools I don't want
>try to do my ranged heavy
>forgot how to do it? controls guide ain't helping
>look it up
>it got removed in some shitty rework
>around the time I left
>"this makes shinobi more competitively viable in duels"
>"offscreen heavies in ganks weren't healthy for the game" (but shito 100-0 executes / variable unblockable heavies and BP pancake hugs are still in the game, which are even more punishing, and even less counterable) (and from what it seems, there's even more 50/50's)
>leddit and steam cocksuckers lawtist mains praising it
>MaD JoKeR_LeGenD is a voice of reason, chuckle to myself a bit https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2676254113
>check out the rest of the moves and my old muscle memory feintchains (at least, the ones that didn't start with spinning chain)
>none of it exists any more, nothing works
>they basically deleted shinobi and replaced it with a different character

>oh yeah, that's why.jpg
>turn the game off and uninstall

It was a delightful 45 minutes before then at the very least. Shame really. Thanks for reading my blogpost, wish you guys the best.

Jesus christ Varangian is literal easy mode.

>>1404408
I miss old shino too bro... for me it was his mobility and quad dodge. They took away some dodge directions on his double dodge as well... if I could go back in time to play old shino I would

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>>1404731
Aye, that was it for me too. I'd play the shit out of Breach back when it was objective based, and the tradeoff of ultra-mobility and objective presence for a weaker 1v1 (made up for by being an effective Aggressive Support in teamfights, like a paper mache version of Jiang Jun) as Shinobi; and then doing sneaky ninja shit like disengaging by quad-dashing around walls, waiting around corners for ambushes, smoke bombing to loop around people, breaking my legs to 1hp on exact-height ledge drops or suicidebombing on the cauldron if backed into the corner with the nail bomb. It was my thing. Ninja Simulator. It's like, the entire concept of a Shinobi - an Assassin that gets the jump on people and gets shit done in the background, but melts if you grab the little bastard by the neck.
To me, I didn't care if my KD was shit, as long as I fucking drilled those banners, blitzed those archer lanes and solo'd the Guardian for the team buff, I was fucking gaming like a boss with music blazing on while I was doing shadow arts shit. Sure, some games were almost like PvE (tards gonna tardfight), but when you'd have another non-empty-brained enemy bothering to play the objective, it was a super-unique mindgame; like a flawless cross between a lax fighting game and a lax RTS / MOBA, where you needed to genuinely balance skill and strategy, that I've never seen before or since. The few times I came across enemy Shinobis playing my own game against me was like a fight for the ages. Real cool shit.
So good that "influencers" wanted a 1v1 rock paper scissors fighting game instead (the brawl, arcade and duel modes were soooo popular after all - domination and breach were basically miniscule in comparison).

Pretty sure they removed the powerslide too, but obviously I've not got it installed any more to check. Have an old funny webm of mine I've got in the old file for old times sake for all that reminiscing.

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>it's another asian lightspam into unblock episode
>it's another 4v1 discord group episode
>it's another fight-snipe episode
when did people get so sweaty in this game good lord

>>1404840
>webm
no fuckin way

related
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY WEBMS OF SHAOLIN'S TELEPORTING BEHIND SOMEONE STANDING BY A LEDGE AND INSTANTLY KNOCKING THEM OFF

i tried to play conqueror, haven't tried since the last rework, and holy shit, it was disappointig, the thing i was most perplexed was he can no longer soft-feint the heavy into bash, but it was so bad (damage, animations, non chasing abilities). the hero needs truly help and is sad he isn't a fan favorite.
this is my blogpost for today

>>1405127
heavy to bash soft feints are never included anymore and are almost always removed after a rework
the only characters that still have them are
>Kensei top neutral heavy
>BP neutral heavies in all 3 directions because fuck kensei I guess
>Highlander offensive heavy

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why is my reflex so fucking garbage, I constantly get fucked by unblockables and grabs, surely Im not the only one, right?

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>>1405233
https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

I can barely react to and parry 600ms attacks on reaction
you are not alone, fellow reactionlet

>>1405239
wait what am I saying I cant even do that
no I cannot parry 600ms attacks
I can't parry a zhanhu or warlord zone on reaction
cant do it
I have to know it's coming as an option

Anything but Unique content is completely garbage in this game, thank god i keep the reddit effects off.

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>load up a match
>enemy team have matching emblems
>see their characters
>2 BPs, 1 Orochi, and a VG
>close in task manager

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>An extremely close breach match
>Actually fun
>The enemy orochi starts getting desperate uses lag switch
>They had a warmonger use her I win button to kill the commander

I seriously hate this fucking bitch so much the laziest hero with the most annoying bullshit the lag switch orochi didn’t get me as mad as fighting her

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>it's a shaman who just shits on you because and turtles, and bleed spams you

Fuck I wish they nerf, shaolin, BP and conqueror into oblivion. Not happening but fuck man, even the lowest reps of shaman, they just fucking toy with you.

I don't care what people say, i fucking hate fighting Centurion.

>>1409801
What's fun about dealing with variable timed bashes and heavies over and over?

I think Kensei's Zone should be a swipe with a step backwards just like elden ring

>>1409251
correction
it's a Shaman that just repeatedly spams their zone + zone soft feints over and over and over and over and over again
Shaman's entire kit might as well be pressing R2 and R1 at the same time and then occasionally pressing B or R1 again

>>1410136
>shaman zone
Block the first hit, parry the second.

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>>1409806
how's that different to the rest of the cast (at least the ones that have been reworked) any more?

So is Sohei kinda dogshit?

>>1411570
yeah
he's just pretty basic
but that's the idea
he's shit until he one shots you

would giving sohei super armor during grab stab of death really be too op?
or atleast giving him stun immunity with allies when it comes to ally mashers?

>>1411999
no
it wouldn't
if you're a teammate of the guy getting stabbed then just GB or bash him

here's how you fix Sohei
>give him a spear only stance focused on team fighting, but that doesn't allow him to gain souls
>give his finisher hyperarmor
now he's fine

Delete Sohei
Delete DLC heroes
Delete Orochi and Zerk.

>>1412382
Also delete Shugoki, braindead and reddit character.

>>1412391
t. made a bad read and got hugged

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>>1412382
I'm more thinking
>Rework/retheme Black Prior (give them a mace, maybe they're royal elite guards), Jormungandr (Vikings actually innovating to take on Knight Heavy armor), Hitokiri (might just delete and have Sohei as the DLC samurai Heavy)
>Delete Warmonger and redistribute moves and fashion to Warden and Lawbringer
>Delete Kyoshin and redistribute moves and fashion across Kensei, Orochi, and Aramusha
>Delete Vargarian Guard and redistribute moves and fashion across Raider, warlord, and Jorm
>Rework/Retheme Gryphon and put him in Vikings, remove non-viking fashion options and distribute where appropriate.
>Massive rework/retheme of Pirate including gender unlocking, giving them English voicelines to emphasize a lack of allegiance to any existing faction, and one armor style representing cultural backgrounds of each existing faction plus one obligatory 17th century Atlantic pirate.
>Retheme Shaman so she's not a schizoid, psycho and maybe looks and acts more like an old Gaulic/pagan witch
>Rework Medjay, Afeera, and Ocelotl
>New Knight Hero and Samurai heroes to make up for the loss of heroes

Are the battle passes worth it? Most of the content looks worthless, even the wallmart weapons.

>>1412859
I've bought one or two for a single specific item that brought a whole look together

they're $10 every time so dont treat it like a regular battle pass, because it isnt

>>1414081
Kensei deserves a (good) rework more than anyone else in the game right now

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>>1412859
I didnt buy them when I first started playing and the lack of colors and patterns really made fashioning hard. Ive bought the last 5 because they cost the same amount as a subway sandwich or some mcdonalds. I only use event/battle pass weapons for fashion now

having a low reaction time is OP
very rude

here's my personal recommendations for a Sohei update / buff / rework
>give the finisher hyperarmor for every frame of the move
so that teammates and enemies can't interrupt you without bashing
also
>make the finisher count as an execution for the purposes of enemy respawns and healing
right now you're kind of punishes for using your finisher because it gives the enemy a shorter respawn and you lose out on healing from executions
>finisher heals 20HP and gives enemy 15s respawn
should be reasonable
as for moveset improvements I can't think of a better solution than what Slanderous came up with, that being giving him a stance
>Stance 1: two hands on spear, using only spear attacks for openers and finishers
>Stance 2: one hand on spear, using spear for openers and soul weapons for finishers
that way you can rely on your sweeping spear hitboxes and hyperarmor in big fucked teamfights, but still focus on your soul weapons in 1v1s

>>1416784
also the finisher should deny the ability to revive that player
so if the finisher kills
>heals the Sohei for 20 HP
>sets the victim's respawn timer to 15s
>makes it so they can't be revived
would actually give Sohei a strong and rewarding niche where in a way he's got the fastest execution in the game of 0 seconds, but it's only a 20 HP execution so it's not that big a deal, especially with how hard to get it can be

>>1405239
Yea while the game is the most unreactable it's ever been having a slow RT will still hurt you alot.

>>1409251
Conqueror is dogshit, if you can't deal with a bottom tier character then it's just a massive skill issue on your partq

if ubi wants money, the hero skin for next season is valk with ZR

>>1418644
Pretty sure the hero skin next season is supposed to be for a Wu Lin. I might be wrong, but we're probably getting a skin for Tiandi or Jiang Jun.

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>>1418657

>>1418661
Thanks I was looking for that.
>another new Outlander hero coming in S4
fuck

The new hero skin is Warlord with some lame ass rework.

>>1419541
I'll gladly take a reworked Warlord if it means he's a less boring hero
>hyperarmor spam
>ledge spam
>bash spam
>neutral undodgeable
he's not overpowered, but he's pretty much the definition of a boring "safe" hero

>>1419784
You forgot the annoying enhanced lights with frame advantage.

>>1419929
what amazing neutral pressure he has
>433ms bash
>enhanced lights (that are also crushing counters)
you can't trap him in neutral
if he wants to open he will open and you will have to respect it

yeah we need a FH2 at this point, but I dont think it'll happen soon with ubershite betting so hard on these recent failures unless FH gets bought or buys themselves out

just let it die. Sleep darling, rest your weapon at last

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WD this Tuesday

CROSS YOUR FINGERS
COLLECT 4 LEAF CLOVERS
CUT OFF RABBITS FEET
do whatever you can to accumulate good luck
and focus all of that luck on ubishart delivering the ganking / revenge rework
>now when being attacked by multiple opponents, you gain increasing amounts of damage resistance the more opponents are wailing on you
>stun resetting pins are completely removed so stuff like Medjay grab, Shonobi kick, and Highlander caber can't be used to stun people who are already stunned and incapable of dodging
having additional feat nerfs (namely warmonger) and nerfs to annoying ass heroes would be welcome, but addressing ganking like they said they'd do a year ago would be better

I just want them to fix Sohei's chains so he can heavy light and light heavy, if not then let us use the in chain zone from any of the three directions and fix the chain link timing to heavies so we can't get lighted out.

Also either give the move hyper armor or making it so that it doesn't use up the souls if the move doesn't successfully deal damage. The amount of times I've had teammates interrupt my MEI YO NA SHI DA out of fucking nowhere is staggering, I'm not even doing it midchain and a nigga still walks up to me and interupts.

>>1425092
the Sohei finisher getting hyperarmor and/or soul refund on interrupt seems most likely to me

I don't think it's enough though because it still cucks you out of an execution
>missing an opportunity for healing off execution
>missing an opportunity to extend enemy's respawn timer
>missing an opportunity to deny the enemy a chance to revive
and annoying albeit niche
>missing an opportunity to deny Ocelotl his ghost form
the finisher needs to count as an execution otherwise it feels like a shitty trade off

>>1425104
I don't mind it not being an execution because it's either a one shot or it kills you from 3/4 hp, it would be a bit too much if it also executed, I think thats why the 2nd feat in a full heal to make up for that

>>1425110
I hadn't mentioned it, but yeah I think the finisher should have a damage nerf
it being capable of one shotting is silly in the same way that kiai was capable of deleting all your stamina from full is silly
with all the damage buffs active it should be capable of killing from 3/4, but never a one shot unless your cooperating with a teammate who is using Fear Itself
base damage should be dropped to like 60 or 70

to compensate Sohei's moveset should be improved
actually I'll just steal more suggestions from Slanderous's video
>take away some of the finisher's backloaded damage
>but in exchange give Sohei access to more upfront damage
>this is accomplished by giving him the spear-only stance that deals regular damage, but can't gather souls
Sohei's soul weapon finisher damage stays low, but with the trade-off being access to the 7FS (his finisher)
give him spear attack finisher lights and heavies that deal normal damage

>>1425120
There's no way they'll rework him if at all this soon. It took what, 8 months for highlander to get one? At best they'll speed up some frame data and trade some damage from the finisher to the rest of his moveset.

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fuck, I give up trying to learn how to play this game with a controller, I keep on messing up my inputs, I'm just gonna be a mouse+kb pleb for the rest of my life

>>1425548
M+KB will make it easier to parry at least

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what if the way you give Highlander an opener is the Kensei approach
>if Highlander does a GB input during a top heavy opener he will perform a 400ms punch that instantly puts him in OS with frame advantage, but otherwise doesn't gurantee any damage
I like the idea of feinting a move into fastflowing move better than just giving him a standard neutral bash
alternatively
>Highlander's side heavy openers can be feinted into a bash
I just don't like the idea of him getting the bash feint in all 3 directions
doesn't feel right
actually wait I like this better
give him an enhanced light opener in the top direction
>all three lights retain the CC property, but only the top light is enhanced
and the side heavy openers can be feinted into a bash
this way he has a viable opener in all three directions without bloating him with more neutral options than he needs

https://x.com/ForHonorGame/status/1833173555837542519 yeah next hero skin is definately warlard

What are you supposed to do against dodge attacks? They just spam these fucking things and if it's gladiator the move is instant so you have no time to react
As far as I know warden has no blue moves so am I just fucked?

Also when the fuck are you supposed to GB? All people do is swing these lightning fast light attacks

>>1427838
bait and parry

they nerfed most dodge attacks to HAVE HEAVY ATTACK punishes for a reason

>>1427864
Orochi and Gladiator feel like they have no openings

>>1427883
Orochi has stance attacks called Storm Rush that you may be confusing for dodge attack. Storm Rush is difficult to react to because it has a limited indicator (an awful design choice)

>>1427838
bait them out with a feintable attack and then parry them

go to the For Honor Information Hub and read about their moves

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>>1418297
He still has that retarded ass free GB slide he gets everytime you try to dodge his mixup.

>yeah let me fucking glide across the screen and GB you homie.

https://www.twitch.tv/forhonorgame
next half hour
lets see what they have planned despite the chances of ubeishit not lasting for much longer

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Roadmap

lol lmao no budget and a reused asset

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Warlord skin
>>1428504
I assume their budget went into the other skin we get this season

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Viking village map

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Battle pass

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They killed the tree

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A

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C

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Event pass

https://streamable.com/ysqq5y

feats tweaks nice

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Testing Ground
They are planning to give all older heroes unique feats

Warden

>>1428550
i like the body count approach, the unnerfed version for a hero with meh minion clear

>only ONE HERO feat rework

lol lmao lmacsadj vaafdvnopdbudget

>>1428512
The new battle pass weapons are cracked. They look so good

>just warden
What the fuck

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Patch notes

Lawbringer
They're still working on more changes for him (including roll catcher), no ETA

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>>1428563
>>1428560
EL PROTAGONIST

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>>1428564
Peacekeeper

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>>1428566
Centurion

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>>1428571
Feats

>>1428564
>More SHOB

Lol, lmao.

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Knight and Viking armor variations this TU

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>>1428590

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>>1428598

>>1428562
They're fucking beautiful, love them already.

Warden bros. We won.

>>1428635
>New animations with new combos
>New skin
>Buffed and reworked feats

All we need is a dodge attack.

Wait what? No Sohei buffs?

>>1428689
Who?

no opener for Highlander?
no tweaks?
still leaving his opener heavies with 100ms of hyperarmor?

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tdlr, ubisehit wants sam bros to buy the new asscreed instead of playing 9 honor

anyone got that webm where the female asssssssssin does some sick back slash flury and only does like 10% of damage on some dude?

>>1428835
>anyone got that webm where the female asssssssssin does some sick back slash flury and only does like 10% of damage on some dude?
isn't that the same clip where like 80% of her attacks don't even come within 2 feet of the enemy?

>>1428841
yep, and there are people who are even remotely hopeful for that game, and ubishat to make another game after the faliures of skull n bones and Starwars outshit (also an asscreed tasklist like)

>>1428830
>we have more tweaks for highlander
>and orochi
>and Sohei
>literally none of them got shit

Behead JC.

>>1428550
>giving all older heroes a unique feat set
YEEESSSSSSSSS
YYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS

>Check online for resources
>All guides from 6 years ago
>Check reddit posts
>Some from this year, mostly 2+ years ago

Alright can someone please explain how I am supposed to play BP? He feels slow as all fuck and deals no damage, not smooth like warden.
>Muh flip
Ok I get the flip, though the timing is strict as fuck and enemies just GB if they aren't retarded since you cannot stop it.
>Unreactable bash
I must be missing this move somehwere. Pressing GB after a light attack does a bash, but people in my ELO (read: Lowest possible) always dodge this with ease. Zone is a bash that takes 2 business days to come out. Forward dodge + GB is a bash, but it has the same range as a baby's arm. So which bash is unreactable that I am supposed to use to actually deal damage?

>>1428989
I should add, going for a flip is dangerous as hell because if you miss, god forbid, you basically cannot recover from the punishment you will receive. Huge stamina loss and unbelievable hitstun so you can never get back to Bulwark. I lose more Hp off missing a flip than I do getting GB

This feels like a hero that only wins when you are far, far better than your opponent

>>1428989
>>1428997
BP has 3 different neutral bashes. Use them.
>neutral heavy soft feint to bash
>zone bash
>forward dodge bash
And your in-chain bash should be paired with use of your undodgeable heavy finisher. That's the thing that makes it a mixup. If people start parrying your undodgeable then start feinting it and going for a GB. If people dodge the bash every time then punish that with your undodgeable.

Also you should be using your Bulwark Slash mixup frequently. That's the unblockable heavy you access from Bulwark Stance. It can be feinted for a GB. It beats people who try to GB you out of Bulwark. You can also target swap to another opponent and make it basically unparryable for the target you actually want to hit.

And yeah flip is good, but it's best used sparingly unless you know which moves are safe to flip and which aren't.

Also you have crushing counters in all directions so remember to use them. I don't play BP, but I'm 90% they're chain starters so they get you right into your bash/undodgeable mixup.

>>1428542
Better than the cathedral one

>>1429195
>>1428989
I will add
anyone with a neutral heavy to bash soft feint has an extra mind game they can do

if you use Kensei's top heavy to bash soft feint a lot people start dodging on reaction when they see the top neutral heavy. You can then start to punish this by instead feinting the top heavy and parrying the dodge attack.

Same thing goes for BP.

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>playing this game for 7 years since beta release
>non of my characters is rep 70-90

Lol for honor grinds are so long idk how people do it.

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/for-honor/news-updates/6tuiIhv8fMVkvL5j5MO18m
>New move: Law, Order and Equity (Light, Light, Heavy)

oh no

https://youtu.be/uh4IIaE7Ay4?si=x64mMfKDkilp0arI

>>1431032
I hate lawbringer mains so much.

so uh
is Lawbringer's in chain bash GB vulnerable?
is his neutral bash GB vulnerable?

>>1430110
champ status and bot farming

How can I better mix up my warden combos to get damage?
I guess I've crawled out of wood ELO because suddenly all of my duel opponents can consistently parry my heavy after shoulder bash. My basic combo is
>Shoulder bash into double light into heavy
Before this was working great and while I would sometimes be parried, if I switched up the direction it would land more often than not. Now suddenly it isn't hitting at all, and I end up eating an unavoidable punish for my trouble (at least warmonger, orochi and nobushi could all attack faster than I could guard)

From what I can tell, I can hit a single heavy off a fully charged bash, but I'm not getting those full bashes often enough to rely on them. Am I really meant to chip away with light attacks? If so it feels like wardens lights do very minimal damage compared to other characters

>>1431418
Warden is a simple character but unreactable still. Your shoulder bash is the bread and butter. If you land a level 1 or level 2 (partially charged bash) then you get a guaranteed double light. If you land a fully charged bash (a level 3) you get a heavy. You can feint the bash like you can feint heavy attacks. Do this to bait a reaction from your enemy and then react to what they do. If they dodge attack, parry it and punish. If they empty dodge, guard break and punish. If they try to hit you with a light attack to interrupt, parry it and punish. If they try to dodge bash you (from a character like Shinobi or Gladiator), dodge their bash and the guard break them and then punish them.

You need to be feinting your unblockable heavy and bash more to try and see what your opponent does and react accordingly. Start conditioning them to react certain ways and then do the opposite. You feinted the bash into guard break because he dodged, now he doesn't wanna dodge anymore so this time you just let the level 1 charge go off instantly and get the light attack. Now you get to go back into your shoulder bash mixup until he guesses right.

>>1431430
How are you feinting an unlockable heavy without first throwing a parryable light or starting heavy?

Based on what you've written it ultimately sounds like warden is meant to get his damage from light attacks, with heavy attacks coming in rarely if at all. Them being unblockable does not do much when they have very predictable timing I guess

>>1431460
>How are you feinting an unlockable heavy without first throwing a parryable light or starting heavy?

You're not. The unblockable heavy isn't his bread and butter. The shoulder charge mixup is. You can do them after his light attacks which can be guaranteed from several options. You can side heavy off a guard break or top heavy after a guard break into wall splat throw.

>Based on what you've written it ultimately sounds like warden is meant to get his damage from light attacks,

If you get a read on someone you can get a heavy attack one way or another.

If you really want to make use of the unblockable instead of the bash for whatever reason you can get into it by holding backwards when you do your heavy or light attacks (except top light because it's a crushing counter). It will move you backwards and out of range of the enemy's parry and most attacks unless they make a hard read you're trying to do it.

You should try watching some good players if you want to see all this in action. I don't know how relevant he still is in high level play but Havok is still a good player and he mains warden.

>>1431460
>How are you feinting an unlockable heavy without first throwing a parryable light or starting heavy?
All of wardens moves chain into his unblockable heavy. A popular starter is feinting a top or left heavy into the zone attack, and then moving into an unblockable (which you should feint most times to see what your opponent does) or the bash combo. Variably timing on the bashes is huge, and you can feint it in the 2nd stage of charging it to mindgame your opponent even more. Additionally, when you land the bash+double lights, you can then choose to either go into another bash or throw the unblockable heavy for more mix-up potential.
Warden may not have blues, but he's still great at punishing dodges. Light parries (i.e. parrying most dodge attacks) lead into a top heavy that hurts really bad, as do wallsplats, and some heroes will get hit by the side unblockables if they naked dodge in anticipation of a bash. You shouldn't really be throwing the top unblockable unless you're feinting it to bait a crushing counter, since the top one is super easy to dodge.

>>1431460
>>1431569
Also Re: Watching good players to see how they play your hero, watch King Misty. He's as good as Havok and not a faggot.

>>1431572
>not a faggot

Come on now.

havent played in a few years is blackprior still good

>>1431686
Yes

>>1431569
I have a very hard time landing crushing counters, I think the timing is off from a normal parry. I can somewhat reliably switch guard +parry but very very rarely can I land a CC (though they feel incredible when I do)

>Feint the heavy
Maybe this has to do with my speed, but people at my ELO like to really spam light attacks (especially dodge attacks if they have one like gladiator or orochi) . So what I find when I feint a non-bash is that they just fire off a light attack in answer and punish me while I finish the feint. I feint the bash a lot, because I want to try and determine when the enemy likes to dodge but heavies I don't get much value out of

>Light parry
This is when you flick your guard in the direction of the attack just when the arrow flashes?

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FIX SOHEI'S CHAINS AND CHAIN LINK TIMINGS JC, DO IT AND EVERY POSTER IN THIS THREAD'S LIFE IS YOURS

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>>1431719
No, light parrying is when you parry a light attack. You can tell because the screen flashes much brighter during a light parry, and hitting a light parry guarantees you a heavy or more depending on the character. On Warden it guarantees you your top heavy. This gameplay is dogshit but it does a good job of illustrating the difference between light and heavy parries based on screen effects, and you can see I get the light parry screen effect when I parry the Oxy's dodge attack.
Typically light parries are difficult to land unless you know animations or bait them or start going monkey mode and just "parry on red" (Parry attempt as soon as you see the attack indicator in anticipation of lightspam). However to limit the usefulness of dodge attacks and to encourage people to not spam them, parrying a dodge attack (which is very easy if you're expecting it) counts as a light parry and gives you greater punish. Baiting and parrying dodge attacks is huge for low level Warden.
The main exceptions to this are Warmonger (who has the most obnoxious dodge attack in the game because it's unblockable with insane amounts of i-frames) and Tiandi who has access to both a heavy and light dodge attack.

LB is so fucking brainless now

>>1431686
still has more bashes than any other character
still has flip
still has recovery cancels
still has a good unblockable heavy mixup
still has a good UD / bash mixup
he is still good

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A or B?
new helmet

>>1432501
A for sure

>>1432501
I think A looks better.

How is conqueror not considered high tier? He's so fast and he can cancel his infinite unblockable attacks into a go at any point. He's also got freakish range

Warden is like the baseline for light attack speed and I think every character in the game has a faster light attack than him, even shugoki (though it does 0 DMG)

>>1432761
Literally every character has 500ms light attacks for their openers.

How can I stop fast characters like Oorchi or Nuxia from these seemingly uninterruptible light attack chains without just getting lucky and guessing the direction?

I am literally pressing the guard in the right direction and no other buttons and they still connect. I guess their attacks are that advantageous on hit, but it seems silly to give them 40 free damage off a single light

>>1432761
You can literally run away from him when you're losing and there's nothing he can do about it.

>>1432832
Why do so many retards cite this as a good way to balance characters in so many games?

>>1431032
These devs are such a joke lmao.

>>1434134
It's what happens when you have to balance for tryhard faggots who react to everything while being 1% of the playerbase. Just make every character unfun and spam 50/50s

>>1432501
A all the way.

Why doesn't warden have a dodge attack? Warmonger has a dodge charged bash AND a dodge unblockable heavy attack.

>>1434166
because warden is a day 1 hero and warmonger is paid DLC. Also, is your unlockable, chargeable, feintable dodge bash with guaranteed double light really not enough for you?

>>1432785
who are you playing as?

>>1434166
When they added dodge attacks to heroes that were still missing one, they skipped everyone with a dodge bash because they were still in maximum cost-saving mode and didn't want to create any more "new" animations than necessary.

>>1432426
its like if warden was granted better parries in exchange for his kneecaps

>>1434339
>Also, is your unlockable, chargeable, feintable dodge bash with guaranteed double light really not enough for you?

As long as there are heroes who can decide to chain on whiff? Yes.

Tough As Nails got a buff
I want to see more "honest" Warmongers
>Rush
>Flesh Wound
>Tough As Nails
>Auto-Revive

HOLY FUCKING SHIT GIVE HIGHLANDER A SINGLE WAY TO OPEN SAFELY
>do a celtic curse and they just stand there and block it or parry it
>neutral lights gets blocked or parried
>zone just gets ignored
of course greedy players will try to parry the zone, but that's only because they don't understand the risk reward
>neutral heavies only have have 100ms of hyperarmor and aren't enhanced
the feint-to-fast-flow inputs are so fucked it might as well not exist
you have to develop carpal tunnel to use this character's supposed "viable" opener

JUST GIVE HIM ENHANCED LIGHTS OR SOMETHING
A SOFT FEINT BASH
ANYTHING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>1432724
>>1432737
>>1434160
A it is then

Is it just me or is the timing on wardens heavy feint very strict? I can reliably feint out of bash, but if I don't press O at the same time as RT he is not canceling the heavy
Meanwhile my buddy plays raider and can cancel his big unblockable swing after he's done the spin

>>1434895
According to the wiki
>Most Feints will occur 400ms before the attack or move would land, unless said otherwise. The only time this is not the case is with Chargeable attacks, which can be Feinted just after starting the attack until the 400ms before the attack would land.
In your scenario you have to feint you opener heavy (800ms) 100ms earlier than raiders zone (900ms) for wardens finisher heavy (900ms) it has the same timing as raiders zone. DESU I have never really thought about feint times for heavies. Muscle memory makes them all feel the same to me

I swear I must be doing something wrong
people keep dodging my attacks no matter what I throw, but when I try to do the same I get hit EVERY FUCKING TIME
its so fucking clunky, I remember this game being much more sharp, what the fuck happened. I can barely win a 1v1 at this point, I used to be able to play 1v3s easy when the game came out
also fucking every attack I throw gets interupted but nah, whenever I attack, it just hits armor

>>1434958
Everything is universally faster after the CCU

Every forward dodge bash is now 433ms and occurs 300-100ms into the dodge so you can't do it on reaction

Hyper Armor timings are now 200ms into the attack so a bit before the feint window.

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This whole time I thought /fhg/ died but you guys moved here and I missed the memo :(

>>1435066
NTA but I hate this shit. Combat just feels like "spam random bullshit GO!" now. I get that they were trying to fix staring contests but I remember the game was still more fun back then, whereas now I'm just pressing random buttons and winning. I literally picked up a new character and started winning immediately by pressing light.

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What tech is Faraam using in this video at 1:39 and 2:59?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfHWNXrXuE

It looks like a forward dodge option select for the unblockable. But I thought all of those got removed. If he's just making a read, then why do the dodge forward heavy?

>>1435675
it looks like eagles fury is an option select. the hyperarmor starts 400ms into the move. LB heavy finisher is 800ms. so you either trade or beat their gb mixup. similar to zerks forward dodge light. feint to neutral beats beats both but requires a read/reflexes. the only option select i was aware they removed directly was the original zone/parry

>>1435066
I just uninstalled, its depressing because this used to be one of my favorite games since it came out
what the fuck did they do to it to make it THIS bad.

>>1435718
They removed almost all of them, including dodge and GB option selects. The only one I know of that's still in the game is an obscure guard switch OS that requires macros and is barely used by anyone

>>1435668
>>1435733
It's honestly not as bad as you guys are making it out to be you're now just forced to have to make more reads rather than just relying on your reactions which is a good thing because of the reaction monsters that still play the game.

If It just feels random at times its because you aren't actively punishing or conditoning your opponent which sends the message to them that they can get away with pulling anything on you and vice versa.

>>1435845
No need for all that, I just spam lights win

>>1435768
oh you mean input option selects. i meant a move that covers multiple options

>>1435852
And anyone with a brain will start paying attention to what directions you light in, and then parry you. It's not even a reaction thing. 100% of my light parries are either completely random luck or me guessing where they'll chain light.

New map's been out for a while, what are your thoughts on it?

Black Prior tier 4 feat nerf is more noticeable than i thought it would be, you can acually kill him with the feat active now
>>1436305
Didn't played too much to know if is a symmetrical map or not, but is pretty small,too much for my taste. I like the bottleneck in the middle of the minion lane, a good zone attack there can delete the whole push.
7/10, below harbor and citadel gate but above the shard

>>1436214
>they parry one light
>I start throwing raw heavies
>win
""read"" based gameplay is silly

>cent is now uninterruptable if he gets any kind of light hitstun

Wow this is fucking obnoxious. Just fought a smurf abusing this.

I forgot why I stopped playing this game.

>people playing hyper defensive and only playing off reactions
>everyone playing like they're the hottest shit and being annoying as possible
>character balance is outta wack
>people just pick whatever top tier character has the best cheese to get wins
>no one ever rematches because they know they can only win off random bullshit

>>1436611
Like holy fuck I'm fighting someone right now and they've switched characters every round just trying what to find what cheesy shit I don't know about.

>>1436639
This is so aids I uninstalled the game. Faggot went from cent checking if I knew about the new buff and how it's uninterruptable to shinobi doing literally anything on shinobi to orochi to hito. Like holy fuck this is so obnoxious. Just trying to see what random OP shit will work every round.

>oh he knows to guardbreak bait shinobi?
>better try to reaction check him with orochi storm stance
>he can block?
>better try to bullshit with hito
>etc

Yes I'm mad. Fucking retarded 50/50 tests every second because actually doing anything that isn't lottery guessing is bad in this game.

>>1436611
>people playing hyper defensive and only playing off reactions
in my defense I have objectively the worst neutral pressure in the game, but I'll still attempt to initiate regardless
>everyone playing like they're the hottest shit and being annoying as possible
that's a fighting game for you
>character balance is outta wack
absolute 100% correct
>people just pick whatever top tier character has the best cheese to get wins
NOT ME
I exclusively play the character I think looks the coolest (Highlander)
I would probably be account rep 600 or something, but I'm still below 100 because I only play one character
>no one ever rematches because they know they can only win off random bullshit
I rematch in order to have the chance to either grief my previous oppoents (if they're on my team), or to demolish my previous opponents (if they're on the enemy team)
I will hold grudges for 10+ matches in a row
>oh you unlock rolled away from my mixup like 5 times during a match
>well now I'm going to fixate on your for the next 3 hour until you leave the lobby

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>right side celtic curse has variable timed input
>left side has a set input
>for some reason the left side is the slower one
why the fuck would anyone ever use the left side one? you're going to get parried every single time without fail

>>1437622
Why did they forget to speed up the hyper armor on his heavy attacks? Why did they still not give him an opener? Why did they glitch him out even harder like leaving OS stance if you swap sides after a light or a dodge and try to kick? Why did they say they are still working on stuff for highlander and bug fixes and literally none of that was true?

>>1437648
JC ate all of it sowwy >.<
he got vewy hungwy and needed a midnight snack :3
the narlwal bacons at midnight after all!!!

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post your for honor drip

Is it just my garbage ELO where feinting heavies is not viable? All people do is spam dodge attacks. Just any second they have available to them it's constant dodge attacks

It means I can't feint shoulder bash into GB or feint heavies because I will get punished
>Just parry the attack
I am not that fucking fast. It's already a pleasant surprise when the stupid feint comes out, half the time he just swings despite me mashing circle

>can see warden make actual physical contact with the enemy during his charge
>It doesn't matter because the enemy has iframes, even though they've dodged into a wall or have too short a movement to actually avoid the charge
I don't care that warden is S tier if you are some Adderall snorting sweatlord with 15k hours who can triple feint bashes. His kit is so fucking limited that it requires so much mechanical skill that if you just played a more broken (read:modern) hero you would be better served. The coolest hero in the fucking game is forced to be a 1 trick pony who will give you arthritis

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>>1437771
>I am not that fucking fast

>>1437813
dumb bronzie

>suck against every Asian character
What the fuck is up with these characters man? All they do is flip and twirl and I just cannot process how the fuck to parry them. They all feel like they run 30% faster than everyone else

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>>1440321
if it's orochi then learn to parry based solely off animations or just die because JC is a fat nigger

if it's aramusha then just guess which direction hes going to soft feint and preemptively parry in that direction

if it's kensei then get gud shitter

if it's hitokiri then stop trying to parry all together and instead start GBing a bunch to catch her trying to throw neutral heavies

if it's shinobi then just focus on parrying orange and ignore everything else

if it's nobushi then get gud (but I do hate her)

if it's shugoki then you have my condolences because he's going to feint and GB you every single time without fail

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>>1440332
>if it's orochi then learn to parry based solely off animations

These are all 1 frame before the indicator shows up. Can you tell the difference?

>>1440338
full block and hyper armour exist btw

>>1440321
one of the most important lessons to learn in this game is to stop trying to parry everything

>>1440366
then you guess on if roach is gonna softcancel to gb your defensive option or you call it and you get a light attack

>>1440332
Thanks for the tips against each. It's both the samurai and the wu lin who give me so much trouble but I think it's because they have wonky animations, or something
I can defend against warden because he feels straightforward. He swings from the right and you parry to the right. These Asians all spin and jab and lean and I have no idea where to push my stick

>>1440367
>Don't parry everything
But how will I create an opening to start my offense? My opponents are parry and feint gods and they stop every light or dodge attacks my bashes

my shoulder hurts

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They broke conqueror’s charged flail animations along with some of his execution in this update and nobody noticed.

>>1441193
Continuation from my previous post.
I took a video showing this happening and while I only see it happen for one of the executions I have, this could mean that this bug is happening on other executions. In the hero menu it plays out fine with no errors but in-game it's bugged.

This can mean a few things:
1. Someone at Ubi simply made a mistake and bugged the animation.
2. This is an attempt to fix the notorious flail flickering that caused the removal of flail charging mid chain during the OG Conqueror rework and the devs simply forgot to hide their attempts. meaning that there is an upcoming conqueror rework that will plunge him out of the forgotten limbo he is in.(copium)

>>1442134
fuckme its saying unsupported file even though its a mp4 Ill figure it out in the morning

hilarious and cool
might have to start using bear trap just to tru and do this

>>1442506
fuck forgot link

https://youtu.be/lC9eLVdWt9c

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>>1442140
Here is the video, didn't mean to take so long with this.

>>1443008
fuck it im done

Some heroes absolute ruin this game. Who the fuck wants to fight characters like Pirate, Ocelot, Afeera, Hitokiri or Varangian.

>>1443319
The entire game has become which character can force the most guesses while covering the most options when they have to guess.

>>1443322
That's because the only way to have fun is to play a S tier character since they shit on the entire roster.

>>1443319
the only hero i really despise nowadays is Varangian guard so loud and safe to play.
i really hope the next outlander is a janissary , the shitpost would be fun at least

>VG's finisher heavies are still undodgeable
this fat faggot I swear to god

Any games like old pre-CCU For Honor? I miss light parrying everything

>>1443356
I feel like UD finishers are better than UB. At this point every opponent can parry my UB finishers 95% of the time, which leads to my death if I throw them out (orochi, warden, jorm). Idk if the timing is more predictable or what.
Conversely characters like BP or Shaolin rarely get parried (blocked for sure though)

>>1443881
I'm saying that her UB finishers can't be dodged

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>play against bullshit character
>decide to pick them up from lvl 0 to prove a point
>spend 3 minutes in training grounds and go straight to duels
>spam lights and kicks
>60% winrate at level 5
So far I've done this with Shaolin and Afeera. Utter dogshit game

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How does one get a warmonger gf?

>>1431032
I fucking hate Lawbringer jesus christ.

>>1445272
just be glad his shove isn't chargeable

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>>1445036
glue a bunch of cotton balls to your body
and then go "baaah baaah maaah meeeeeh baaaah"

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>opponent is any of the heroes that arent the original 9
>especially highlander

>>1446245
>original 9
dumb secondary RUN

>>1446276
>he doesnt know

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>>1446245
>original 9

>>1446245
Why would you want to fight Orochi or Zerk.

>>1446578
>he didnt play during the betas

What the fuck happened to orange actually being punishable by GB??? They just decided to make the only punish dodge attacks?

>>1446896
the only punishes is either dodge attacking or making a read that they'll feint it and throwing out your own zone, light, or bash

how the fuck do you even deal with the fat fuck shugoki
you cant attack him because it just hyperarmor tanks it, the swings reach behind him too so dodging doesnt work either

>>1447686
I genuinely don't know
I'm not really sure how to deal with a good Shugoki
>chains into feintable hyperarmor on whiffed headbutt
cancer

>kensei
>highlander
>any of the chinks
>beserker
>shugoki
>jorm
>axe samurai edgelord
instant disconnect

is there any way to play the game like it used to be before this prediction bullshit?

>>1449170
lol just play a PVE game casual

>>1449190
>dude just guess, there's skill involved I promise
this game used to be so fucking good

>>1449193
yeah there is, in any fighting game as casual as even this one, there is always a way to read how people play and what you're character can do about it

So this game is toast then? Since Ubisoft is going tits up

>>1449170
Campaign

>>1449247
in all likelihood the portion of the company that handles For Honor will probably become its own indie / AA studio

or someone else will buy FH

>>1449247
We will know next year since they still have to deliver planned content. But Ubi wants at least 10 years of For Goner.

>>1440659
honestly if it just feels like every interaction has you at a disadvantage then its just gonna be a matter of gaining experience or picking different heroes

>>1444739>>1445272
he's still kinda easy to fight on average imo

>>1448817
Kek just say you're bad at the game

>>1449224
>and what you're character
Typical intelligence of coinflip gamers

>>1449247
The game is not really going to get better so just play whatever you want and understand some heroes are just made to win, especially the outlanders.

No one should feel bad for Ubisoft, they deserve every single backlash they are getting.

Yeah there's a reason why data on hero/character win rates isn't easily accessible unlike basically any proper competitive game out there. I have a suspicion some of them probably deviate up to 10% from the average

>>1450964
someone used to post user-compiled winrates and yeah there was about a 15% deviation from low to high if I remember right
I dont know where the data comes from though

>>1450589
no fuck that, every single post chink hero has stupid flippy floppy moves they can change into anything they want and covered with hyperarmor everywhere
its just not fun to play against

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This is the 4v4 tier list from the winners of the last try hard tournament no one gives a fuck about.

8 years and this is what the balance looks like. If you think these devs can understand how to fix this broken mess you're in copium mode. Any Stier or above character takes no brains and shits on the rest of the roster. Thanks JC you retarded fat retard.

>>1452139
Delete DLC heroes
Rework Orochi, Zerk and Shugo so they are not braindead strong.
Rework Nobushi
Rework Bleed
Rework Revenge
Rework Conq
Rework ganks and hitstun
Rework feats and perks

There, much better. But desu at this point let Ubisoft die.

>>1452139
at least with nobushi you at least have to be a reaction god to make her S-tier
but holy shit is she S-tier when you're a reactard
she's almost objectively the best ganker though
>enemy gets revenge
>if they don't actively focus the nobushi exclusively she can stack up enough bleed under the revenge shield to kill the enemy from full health once the shield drops
not to mention her disgusting synergy with shaman

>>1452157
Only because bleed is a shit mechanic.

>>1452157
35+ damage heavies with way of the shark btw.

>>1451312
Having trouble against a couple of heroes is normal, everyone has some that they struggle against; ex. Hito from your own list is commonly complained about by many players.

However, if your problem is with half the roster, that indicates the problem lies in your own skill.

>>1452155
>>1452139
All Conq needs is a damange buff on his FB punish and a roll catcher. That's literally it. The same-side light chain complaint isn't even that important, as the weird delay actually catches people off guard most of the time.
They can't even bother to make a simple change like this, because it doesn't immediately net them more money. Instead they'll pump out more shitty re-textured hero skin cash grabs.

>>1452139
its been known they have NO budget anymore because ubisshit is forcing more hands on deck to save the sinking ship that is shadows
hell the BIG feat rework is ONLY ONE character

>>1452414
>no budget
They haven't had a budget for a while. For Honor is a pure money print because they have a bare minimum development team and an extremely efficient payment model (battle pass + legacy pass for double FOMO every season). An open letter to ubisoft they said that For Honor is one of their beloved game they aren't doing enough with.

>>1452139
Jormungand is fun i really like his rework
i suck with him btw
give hyperarmor on slam again. is unfair centurion eagle's talon can't be interrupted, or at leats allow to chain with zone

>>1453369
It takes far more effort for Cent than it does for Jorm. Jorm is in a great place right now.

ZENKAI! Why do my teammates hear and see me pulling off the move but still can't resist interupting it like absolute spackers

>Keep wanting to try For Honor again
>Got Warmonger and Black Prior
>Only play maybe one game or two then uninstall after playing for a month+ ages ago and loving Centurion
How do you guys do it

i only play characters that were in faraam videos that week

>start playing zhanhu
>one of like 3 dodge attacks in the game that is gb vulnerable and keeps fucking me over
>devs reasoning is because its a 50/50 in terms of direction
>meanwhile orochi gets no gb vulnerability, faster recovery cancel, undodgable, deflects, higher damage
i wish these idiot devs would make up their minds and standardize everything. zhanhu is a worse version of orochi, just like pk is a worse version of shaman

20 trillion years later and they still havent fixed the game process not fully closing itself when you exit the game. i'm so glad i never spent money on this piece of shit

>>1455064
i feel the variable timing on heavies and puch makes easier to land(at least on my mm ranking)

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It seems that Ubisoft's specialty is making games with a few solid redeeming aspects to keep players hooked, yet make the rest of the game so unbelievably dogshit that it's not even fun to play. It's an abusive relationship, and quite frankly Ubisoft should be paying players court fines for abusing them.
It's very rare to find games where the entire playerbase, including the redditors (who are usually overly positive about everything), agree that the game is dogshit. The only other example I can think of is League of Legends

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guys I bought the italian
but now I have to play peacekeeper...

>>1459084
>his plunge attack is now an air assassination
neat

>>1459084
>>1459174
show what it looks like with an all ablack color pallete + black material

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>>1459217
it only changes the red parts of the clothes and the bottom color on changes the white parts slightly, like gives them a slight hint of color but its still white
the material just changes the color on the metal parts of his equipment, like the assassins logo on the belt and the eagly on the forearm armor and the rivets around on his accesories

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>>1459217
>>1459228
here's in yellow to see what the material options affect

mid-hot take: warmonger is the most abominable hero in the whole game for me. although some don't mind her she's near everything you could hate about a character plus extra. I'd rather have 2 hitos on the enemy team than 1 warmonger

>>1459495
nah the variable timed heavies from hito are infinitely worse than what WM is capable of

just throw out more GBs
she has extra GB vulnerability frames on her unblockable dodge attack
I do think she should lose her impale on heavy punish
should be restricted to a light parry punish like it is on LB

>>1459495
>warmonger is the most abominable
>when VG exists
>when Jorm exists
>when Hiki exists
>when pirate exists

can someone explain why beserker gets hyperarmor on everything?

>>1459711
because he was designed to win
your character doesn't have it because they weren't designed to win

>>1459711
one of the few heroes that's kept their character identity. he's a berserker. he doesn't stop attacking, regardless of how much damage you do to him

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>>1459768
exactly! he was designed to win no matter what!
I'm so glad they kept his character identity of winning like seriously it's such a breath of fresh air haha

>>1459768
its bullshit is what it is

>>1459711
I wouldn't mind the hyper armor if he also didn't have dodge cancels which he really doesn't need.

>>1459866
he was already pretty fuckin' strong
I was absolutely astounded when I saw that in the patch notes
>berserk now has dodge cancels on every attack
JC is a fucking idiot

>>1459530
>>1459683
Not him, but at least in team modes WM is an absolute abomination. Her corruption literally shuts down group fights, which is the entire point of 4v4. Shitdevs really thought that was a good idea

>>1459882
her attacks are slow as fuck and predictable, she has basically no openers

>>1459884
She has the same openers and attack speeds as Warden

>>1459495
Her constant frame advantage is what i hate about her.

>>1459882
that I will agree on
hands down the single strongest feat lineup in the game
it is ABSURD that she hasn't been hit by any of the feat nerfs so far
>gets a T4 feat as her T1, and on a low cooldown to boot
>her T2 and T3 turn her already strong T1 and T4 into obscenely broken cancer
if you're currently corrupted then her feintable side dodge unblockable will deal 31 damage and heal her for 15-16 HP
same goes for her GB punishes

>>1459884
>>1459891
what are you talking about? not only does she have Warden's chargeable bash opener, but she has another form of opener that Warden lacks, enhanced lights
>all light openers are enhanced
>all chain lights are enhanced
she has more viable opening options than Warden

>>1459495
you all need to understand I'm not just talking gameplay (enhanced light cbt) but as the character overall. supreme edgelord girlboss Apollyon fangirl wanabes spamming voicelines in plain language. she steals lawbringers inpale and since her hero skin, closes the door on any conquistador hero. worst of all she is the ultimate "just this hero but better" completely undermining the iconic face of the game.

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>>1460002
I agree with everything you said
she represents a time where Ubi wanted to grossly pivot the game in a new, far more generic direction
thank God the push back was so severe they actually deleted almost all the english voicelines they added

>>1459884
the enhanced lights and faintable orange and blue dodge attacks just aren't enough guys

anyone else fucking hate the attack buffering in this game or know how to remove it if possible?
so many times I've been doubly fucked by a failed counter I made 3 weeks ago. it's worse when you try to dodge attack but the dodge part has a slightly later recovery and fails. then attack part still goes through and just exposes you.

Cross plat progression when? I want to get back into the game but I don't want to start over. A bunch of my friends feel the same way.

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Seriously, how do these types of people have fun? How does it not get boring after a while?

>>1460564
What character.

>>1460933
It was an orochi, like why not just play Ghost of Tsushima or something at that point

>>1460952
>>1460564
anime protagonist syndrome, weak person who never "wins" in everyday IRL social encounters, shitter, or some combination of all 3
>heh, another hard earned victory for me, the main character
>they're just jealous that I'm the WINNER and they're the LOSERS
>heh suck it lol just git gud
Why would they play Sekiro, Nioh, or Ghost of Tsushima? They can't collect that sweet dopamine from "beating" another human if it's a single player game.

or they think he just looks cool which is understandable
his hero skin is the best samurai fashion in the game after Sohei
really channeling Jetstream Sam

>>1460564
anyone here remember the rep 60 warden?
good times(not really)

>>1460564
Would be based if it wasn't Orochi honestly.

ubi aint looking so good bros... i dont think we're getting for honor 2 any time soon...

>>1461581
Good.

>>1461581
>>1461785
considering that the chink studio has been doing most of the heavy lifting in terms of content being provided
I wouldnt be surpised if they prune the entire canadian staff just to make FH2 completely by the chink devs

>>1461785
good, it wouldn't be the same, too many artificial hype nowadays

desu I just want to have fh2 so I don't have to wait so long in lobbies anymore, the game's 7 years old

>>1461581
>wanting modern ubi to do it

>>1461837
>More Poo Lin

No thanks.

I just want some new Wu Lin heroes.

>>1463063
What would you do?
Pure kung fu unarmed martial arts hero?

>>1463637
Jian user
Lu Bu themed Spear hero
Nunchuku user
Tonfa user
Rake user
Monk Spade user

>>1463646
a Lu Bu cosplayer would be appropriate when they already have a Guan Yu cosplayer in the form of Jiang Jun

they don't have the balls or resources, but it would be really funny if they made him a cavalier as well
>when he spawns in he's riding his horse
>has access to strong, unlocked sprint attacks while mounted
>can't block or dodge while mounted
>if you lockon and attack you are forced to leap off the horse, resulting in an unblockable pin attack
>getting attacked while mounted will instantly dismount you and leave you vulnerable on the ground
>height limit so you can't go through human sized doorways

Lu Bu was a master cavalier and had a famous horse

>>1463646
>>1463652
people forget that the chinese had halberds tooo

>>1463678
now it'd be REALLY funny if the hero skin for lawbringer was wu lin themed

>>1463680
>>1463678
there's a preceent for it as well
>when Holden Cross was learning from the Wu Lin during his nomadic journeys, this is the candy ass ching chong outfit he wore

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>beserker or shinobi enemy

>>1464505
am I weird for thinking shinobi's are kinda fun to fight? it's like playing tennis and he's the ball

what the FUCK is wrong with berserker's new execution? ubi must really be in shit if they release animation like that

>>1464715
maybe if the shinobi is high, its a decent chance. f

am I fucking retarded or are there heroes that have light attacks that need be parried the same way heavy attacks are
this fucking sucks, am I just supposed to remember which heroes have these faux light attacks?

>>1464981
I think you're talking about enhanced light attacks (doesn't get stunned on block) and yes you'll have to take them into account

kensei needs enhanced lights.

>>1465353
on top of everything else? really?

>>1465353
no
just speed up some of his shit so it can't be option selected
his kit has all the pieces it just needs some tweaks