Too slow for /vg/, reborn on /vm/ edition.A place for discussing all tactical videogames with a focus on multiplayer games. Both co-op and PvP games are welcome. All discussion of games that already have a thread (Hunt, Tarkov, Arma, CS2 etc) goes in that thread.Some examples are>Multiplayer First Person Shooters:Hell Let Loose, Insurgency, Ready or Not, Ground Branch, Ghost Recon, Project Reality, SQUAD, DayZ, NEOTOKYO, Isonzo, Marauders, Red Orchestra, Rising Storm 2, Six Days in Fallujah, Zero Hour>Single-player honorable mentions include:Afterconflict, Beyond Citadel, Black One Blood Brothers, Brothers in Arms, Darkest Hour, Delta Force, Easy Red 2, Forgotten Hope 2, GTFO, H3VR, Hidden & Dangerous, Hideous Destructor, Project IGI, Receiver 2, Road to Vostok, STALKER, Vietcong>Turn Based Tactics:XCOM, Jagged Alliance, Fallout: Tactics, Combat Mission>Single-player honorable mentions include:Battle Brothers, Silent Storm, Alfa Antiterror, Armoured Commander 2, Phoenix Point, Field of Glory, Flashpoint Campaigns, Invisible Inc, Quasimorph, Troubleshooter, WinSPMBT, Xenonauts>Real Time Tactics:Door Kickers, Wargame, WARNO, Men of War, Gates of Hell, World in Conflict, Company of Heroes, Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance, Broken Arrow, War Mongrels>Single-player honorable mentions include:7.62 High Calibre, Partisans 1941, Aliens: Dark Descent, Armored Brigade, Battlezone, Blitzkrieg, Syrian Warfare, Carrier Command 2, Close Combat, Commandos, CMO, Desperados, Foxhole, Graviteam Tactics, Gunner HEAT PC!, MechCommander, NEBULOUS, Regiments, Star Trek: Bridge Commander, Steel Fury, Sudden Strike>Third Person Squad-based:Conflict, Full Spectrum Warrior, SOCOM>/tac/ repo, knowledge, guides, and resources (needs to be updated and revamped)https://rentry.org/tactical.
What's the closest thing to Insurgency 2014 out now?I really miss that game. Just the right amount of realism and arcadeness
>>1429226The sequel. Insurgency Sandstorm. https://store.steampowered.com/app/581320/Insurgency_Sandstorm/ It has a ton of mods too, mod maps, etc. Overall pretty good for PvP, but the AI is kind of garbage and PvE always devolves into a horde shooter.
>>1429894>2000 players>40+ DLCit was an unnecessary cash grab. it had less game modes than 2014 last I checked too.
>>1429226Well, there's a fair amount of people online for the most of the day. If you're not up for randoms you can join my esoteric group instead. (3 people)>>1429894>shitstorm
>>1430572All of those game modes are dead. Both games suffer from the same issue: braindead morons almost exclusively play push for whatever fucking reason.>>1430576It's the most recent game similar to Ins2014 we have.
what the fuck is wrong with post scriptum/squad 44? i can pin point hipfire up to 100 m in the shooting range but on an actual server my shots seem to fucking disappear or just go everywhere but where im pointed. is the netcode and hit detection really that absolutely shit. also fuck every single nigger who votes and plays utah beach.
>>1431066nevermind. it is the dogshit netcode. i just shot some retard point blank and it took him almost a second to die. what a fucking joke.
why remake the general here with all the games under the sun again? the only reason we did that in /vg/ was because it was too fast so all the games was done to try and keep it alive, its slow in /vm/ where a thread wont die until 10 days later. just make a thread for whatever game you want to talk about.
>>1431066>Meme 44Just play HLL.
>>1431091Because &tactical was comfy. And none of these games (except maybe for Squad) are popular enough for their own general.
>>1431091The whole point is not to "have a thread that stays up for 10 days", the point is to move the general from the gachafaggot riddled shithole known as /vg/ here.
Still waiting for this to come out btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CGNyCgp1Dg
>>1431092>Meme 44>suggests shit let loose instead
>>1431138HLL is objectively a good tactical game. Seethe.
>>1431211that piece of shit doesnt know whether it wants to be battlefield or squad. also gunplay and movement both suck dick and vehicle gameplay is dogshit in hll. i would like to know where you got that garbage is "objectively a good tactical game".
I'm tired of playing CS2 and gaypexWhat tactical game should I dip my toes in? Prefer free/cheap/many playersNothing too old because old games are dead and have 6000 hour psychopath sweats who will just stomp you
>>1428937>Too slow for /vg/, reborn on /vm/ edition.You could at least try to make it like a /vm/ thread>single-player honorable mentions>on a multiplayer boardCome on man
>>1431264>gunplay and movement both suckNo they don't. Movement in Squad sucks much much worse, I've never noticed anything wrong with movement in HLL.>"objectively a good tactical game"Pic related. You're welcome to suck on it.>>1431308>many playersDefine "many players".
>>1431478>Define "many players".I'm asking, because none of these games' playercount ever exceeds 10-15k concurrent players. Tactical games are not super popular sadly.
Decided to give RoN another try in over a year. Let's see if the gunplay is more satisfying now and if they've improved the AI.
>>1431495Forgot I got permabanned from their forum by the perpetually assmad, chronically online resident tranny-janny.
>>1431121>mod >mod of a dead gameits never been more over
>>1431478>Pic related>if a lot of "people" eat shit and say its good then it must be goodyeah
>1431674The only one eating shit here is (You)
>>1431755what a petty faggot
>1431897Cry harder, toddler.
>>1428937Man i thought i had lost you guys
>>1433062What are you, gay?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c
>>1431211HLL is neither tactical nor good, but it is a game.
>>1431308>have 6000 hour psychopath sweats who will just stomp youMost people who play tactical/milsim games are not very good at shooters. My friends who barely play any other FPS games and outright admit they suck at them can still hop on, do alright, and have a fun time. Just pick whatever looks cool.
>>1433310i am armasexual
>>1433508Baited no one award.png
>>1431495I think the old police station was neat, but this is pretty cozy too.
>>1433882
Any tactical ww2 sub mp games?Been playing some sh3 again lately
>>1433886
They've improved performance in RoN significantly and turned the AI so they're not just braindead aimbots (at least 70% of the time). The game is actually enjoyable now.
>>1428937It's like fps about this genre are dead or everybody like to play only 2 games (squad and hll). What should i play?
>>1437082Ready or Not is pretty popular too. Ground Branch is relatively popular. It's up to you what to play, really. Squad had some pretty cool mods like the Global Escalation that turn it into a slightly different (and more fun imo) game.
>>1437106*Has
>>1437106It has some neat factions with unique models, guns and vehicles. Paradrop mechanic, and stuff like that.
>>1437106I don't know why but i like so much Arma 3 and i hate too much Squad. I like games that are realistic but also fun hll isn't bad but the developers are retarded
I don't care for names of gun's or vehicles or years of historical events, but I've noticed that these facts just permeate into my brain from playing war videogames. Is there a game featuring submarines that I can leverage for this? I need to be able to distinguish nazi uboots, and while there's a strangely large and detailed amount of information on them, and suspiciously yearning recounts of the gallant seemensch, the graphics are always grainy or wrong or ancient pixel art. My only other alternative are rare Revell kits.
>>1437235Might want to check this out:https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&tags=19780%2C3859&os=win&supportedlang=english&ndl=1https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&tags=19780%2C599&os=win&supportedlang=english&ndl=1
ARMA Vigor released. Never looked at it. Should I install?
>>1428937>/tac/>/tac/ repo>>1427142>/tact/
>>1438991Schizo.
>>1438991it's just a cheap imitation. this thread really has no similarity with /&tg/ in its prime. also, amusing that mechwarrior and battletech were left out (both tactical multiplayer games) but mechcommander was left in, presumably because op is an idiot
>>1439138>cheap imitationYou have it backwards, cretin, this is a superior version of that general.>mechcommander Must have missed it.Why was the mechashit removed? The explanation is simple: back in /&tg/ mechatrannies would spam the thread to the point where 80% of posts would be about mechashit, drowning out discussion of other games. So I made the decision to leave that shit out of this thread to keep the discussion healthy and diverse.
>>1438991/&tg/ will forever be missed. what the fuck is this bootlegged /tac/ shit? ive been gone from the threads a while.
>>1439238Gacha shitters shit up /vg/ non-stop with their gay shit for some reason despite the fact that they have their own shit containment board. /&tg/ just couldn't keep up with all the gachashit spam, so we re-made the thread here, a much slower board mostly untouched by gacha shitters.
>>1439275oh it's "we" nowwhatever this joint sucks, I'm out
>>1439275but why the name change? /&tg/ is iconic.
>>1439394Good riddance, whiner. This place will be more comfy without your bitching.>>1439570Because the local janny doesn't like the word "general" and sometimes bans threads that have it in their name. It's a necessary rebranding.
>>1439570Because anon tried to copy something without understanding why it was made in the first place, and made haphazard changes just because he felt like it, into a place where it doesn't fitDon't ask him why he put Hideous Destructor in Single player, he doesn't know either
>>1440034How about you stop whining, try to stay on topic and discuss tactical games? This thread wasn't made for little bitches like you. Be thankful someone moved the thread here and that it wasn't lost to the pits of hell known as /vg/ forever. Or leave.
>>1440256Lol why would I be thankful for that? The thread was made for OP's sake and hardly anyone else's, because he missed the real thing. I'm happy to leave /&tg/ resting in peace, it had a good run.Now if you'll excuse me I'll just go to individual threads of games because that's how this board and /vst/ work. Enjoy the month-long trudge
>>1440275The thread was made for people who discussed tactical games on /vg/. I've been one of them since the day we split off from the arma general. Your drama queen ass is clearly not here for discussing games and we can't wait for you to leave. Adieu. You will not be missed.
>>1428937pls not another fucking general exiled from /vg/ i fucking hate gachaniggers so much is unreal, even furfags have less mental aids
>>1433901there is Wolfpack though i have never played it, are you playing sh3 with mods or vanilla?
>>1440400I don't get why jannies don't just ban them from /vg/. Every other board I know does that.
So, i got nostalgic and reinstalled Project Reality.Fuck me its nothing like i remembered.Zero communication, server pop is 90% russian or some other balkan flavour that doesn't speak english.Is that just yuro hours and it gets better when the burgers are awake, or is all that's left thirdies with toaster PCs?
>>1442656I'd say it's a mix of both. Europoors are notorious for not communicating in multiplayer games. Just play Squad and stick to NA servers.
>>1443321Well, couldn't get even a single bearable round in over the entire weekend.Saw a whole of one ENG MIC INF squad, with a grand total of 3 other dudes in it (and me) the rest of the teams was exclusively speaking russian or ukranian.rip PR, should've kept you as fond memory.
>>1443951Like I said, just play Squad. Everyone moved to that.
>>1444606But PR is better than Squad
>>1446000>PRYou seem to have been misled. PR is a shit, janky, ancient and no longer popular mod for a 20 year old game that was never supposed to be "tactical". It's not better than anything.
>>1444606Squad is braindead, people are retarded just playing meatwave simulator, bad optimisation, shitty maps, i have 2k hours and like 1800 were pointless and unfun. Play reforger. Also where's arma thread?
>>1446014I had more tactical gameplay in pr than in squad. Again i have 2k hours in squad, playing sl or important roles, doing minimum 20-30 kills per game because people are retards going in a straight line from the hab to the objective. Play squad if you want to see how retarded are people
>>1446285>2k hours and like 1800 were pointless and unfunIn vanilla maybe (something I can't even bring myself to play anymore, really). I exclusively play mods and am having fun all the time. It feels like there's way less downtime in mods like Global Escalation, because it's designed to be less of a snoozefest, and it feels like you constantly get into firefights and there's never an issue with transportation, unlike vanilla.>Play reforgerUnfortunately, the problem with reforger is that it has 1-2k concurrent players at any given time and most of them are burgers (I play on European servers). I just can't justify that price tag for a dead demo that might not even run on my PC all that well.>>1446287People in Squad are indeed retarded, but it's fun to kill them, and it's fun to coordinate with other competent players. That's why we play it.
>>1446285arma thread finally got archived
>>1447291>arma thread 404s>arma posters immediately start shitting up /tac/, seething about SQUAD.Some things never change.
>>1447372I'd like to apologise on behalf of all non-retarded arma players for the spergs that flocked to the game post DayZ and are shitting up adjacent games.PS: PR does many things better than Squad, the community was better, has better and more interesting maps, and features that, to this day, aren't a thing in Squad. (IR, planes, attack helos, Fire and Forget missiles, various eras for maps, VBIEDs)Squad mostly looks pretty and has cool scope tech, can draw form the advantages of a modern, not reversed engineered engine and has the motherfucking Star Wars mod.As an adult, i can find pros and cons in both games and like both.
Where can I get the best communication? I want to RP like I'm a tacticool military man.
>>1447766Only in some faggot RP larperator discords where people gather for that exact purpose. You will never find anything even remotely close to that in disorganized server lobbies full of morons.I'm guessing you're looking for something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OtAMk4aI_Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uslSAnUqU8YThen yeah, find a discord server where people play games together and everyone has a mic.>>1447372Like pottery. I blame the death of the arma general on /vg/ and the ultimate exodus of arma-fugees to /&tg/ for its death. They made it feel really uncomfy and constantly flung shit at everyone. You can pinpoint the exact month /&tg/ started turning to shit, and it was coincidentally the same month the arma general died for good.>>1447415Honestly, I have nothing against arma itself specifically or most arma players even, it's the vocal cringe faggot "true tactical" minority that takes itself way too seriously and feels the constant need to stir shit with fans of games they deem "inferior" or "not tactical" that's the real problem.
>>1447372>200 hours in arma>2k in squad>arma posterOh yes. Not my fault they play shitty arma 3 larping in 13 fps and begging for arma 4, arma reforger should be here. Yes Squad is shit, i haven't touched it since i bought arma reforger. But i will try the new faction, always wanted pmc in the game
>>1446680>I exclusively play mods and am having fun all the timeSame i played only MEE for the last 1k hours, sadly it died and GE is shit. I know about supermod, but couldn't find servers. >it has 1-2k concurrent players at any given time So what? And you forgot about xbox players, they play on K&M also lol. I played squad when it had 2k players average and it was better, now the game is filled with retards.> but it's fun to kill themI don't even feel like i kill somebody, too many kills, it's like playing against bots on easy mode.
I cast my vote to keep arma out as it's always been. When a dead general limps its way to another it always brings a lot of stupid drama over whose fault it was it died, and other incompatible in-jokes
>>1448475How does a thread even die on a board where it takes 10 days for a thread to disappear lmao
>>1448530Reaching bump limit. They can just make a new one.
>>1448535Why won't they
>>1448536top brass hasn't given the order, we sit in the mud and wait
>>1448539Anon, we are almost encircled. There won't be any more orders. They've abandoned us.
>>1448530it was made like 9 months ago
>>1448546We hold our position, we keep our aim trained on that horizon, we stay quiet. This unit will not be court martialed for failRP
Played a match against the PMC guys yesterday. It feels like you're fighting against airsofters, their camo sucks, their vehicles suck, and they're really easy to spot in combat. Domed 6 of them in a row no sweat from a bush. Only way I can see them played well is bum rushing with techies and using the mobile APC respawn in cheeky out of the way spots behind the enemy's Frontline.
>>1449431I haven't gotten a chance to play since the patch, but i guess you just gotta play them like any irregular faction, avoid the direct approach and don't play it like a conventional force.Ambush, hit and run, flank flank flank.It seems like they're kind of like Militia+helicopters.
we need to combine tac and arma
>>1449559Racemixxing is bad, sorry. This is the white man's thread. (Maybe when Arma 4 drops, and it'd better be good).
I haven't played gronch in over a year. Have they added anything to the game that makes it less boring for solo players? Teammate AI would be a nice start.
>Free weekend in SquadWelp... and here I was thinking I was going to enjoy myself this weekend and check out the latest update.
>>1449959Yep, it ain't pretty.
>>1450126>A bunch of ESL apes shitting up comms with incomprehensible verbal diarrhea earrape It's even worse than I imagined.
>>1450148Good game though.
Is there a single multipler tacshooter that doesn't run poorly? Seems to just be inherent to the subgenre.Squad/44, Insurgency: Sandstorm, HLL, and Arma all have frequent frametime spikes during gameplay and it ruins it for me, but I can play Cawwa Doody, Battlefield, Apex Legends, Halo or whatever and they will be smooth as butter at all times.
>>1450148I stopped playing that game because ESP and aimbot is common and people just shoot you through trees and bushes constantly despite being fully concealed. even admin'd servers dont do shit about the 80 and 1 bitch who you could spectate for 2 seconds and tell its obvious.
>>1450643How can you even tell who shot you if there's no name or anything when you die? Much less spectate them?
>>1450538Tactical shooters are CPU intensive because they have to do complex calculations all the time. Plus Arma specifically is a piece of abysmal outdated dogshit that only runs on a single CPU core because the devs who made it were retarded monkeys with keyboards and half a brain cell among them.
>>1450657Isn't the engine still largely recycled code from the Operation Flashpoint days?Back in the early 2000s single core was the norm, and thus the Real Virtuality engine, even if updated with every title, has some old limitations deeply rooted in the core.But i thought they had a major engine rework from A3 to Reforger, no?
>>1450657What are those games really doing, especially a game like Insurgency, that Battlefield isn't?
>>1450643Haven't played Squad but, for what it's worth, foliage can be pretty unreliable cover in a lot of games because there's a good chance at long ranges that they'll derender so people's computers don't explode.
>>1450695>But i thought they had a major engine rework from A3 to Reforger, no?Hopefully. If Arma 4 has the dogshit performance of Arma 2-3 I'm not even going to bother playing it.>>1450701They simulate ballistics. Calculating bullet drop, speed, etc. I know that this is how it works in single player Arma and Squad 100%, but I'm not sure how it works in multiplayer exactly. Does your machine do the calculations or the server? In any case, even if all the calculations are server sided, that makes it even worse, because there can be dozens or even hundreds of players in a lobby and if the server/host's PC is gogshit (usually the case) then no matter what hardware you have it's going to run like shit. And Arma specifically will run like trash no matter what because of the shit engine.>InsurgencyI think Insurgency is just poorly coded/optimized honestly. Specifically Sandstorm. Which may be an atrocious console port (just a speculation really), because the devs were obsessed with releasing it on console and growing their audience there.
>>1450704This is true for Hell Let Loose. You'll constantly see people lying in the middle of the field thinking they're being sneaky when the grass simply isn't rendering at that distance. I'm not sure if it applies to Squad though.
>>1428937what about valorant
>can never find a single server in rising storm 2 that isnt the rush mode or whatever where everyone is concentrated into a tiny portion of the map>>1430985same case here i guesszoomers fucking ruined games by being a bunch of braindead retards who cant pay attention to a shooter if everyone isnt funneled into a fucking brainless meat grinder, if its not some gay ass battleroyale where they run around like spastics looking items for 99% of the time
>>1450538squad runs like shit, insurgency is pretty good on good hardware but maybe still stutters slightly sometimes, HLL is also pretty smooth for me in DX12 mode, absolutely fuck playing that game in dx11. but dx12 crashes rarelyarma all run like shit but reforger runs a lot better than the other games, still struggles to hit 60fps for me at all times despite being on pretty top of the line hardware but for how big the map is and everything its worth it, best mil sim out now
>>1449559Tac and arma reforger. Look how beautiful it is. I don't need squad, specially during free weekends. Btw the first time i played Squad was during a free weekend, they just added helies and we were dropped from one on the objective, then our HAT saw our btr and shot it lmao
Would anyone be up for playing Mechwarrior Living Legends on the weekend? Pros:It's free!No grinding, no accounts, classic round actionThere's tanks and mechs!Cons:it's old, and doesn't run greatGame is barely alive most of the timeThere's aerospace and battle armor
>>1452044>then our HAT saw our btr and shot it lmaoHilarious shit.>>1452067>it's old, and doesn't run greatI honestly wouldn't recommend playing old multiplayer games with strangers. They have tons of vulnerabilities and it's just not safe. They've been lots of cases of people's computers being hacked into when playing older CoD's and even older Dark Souls games.
>>1452270There*
>>1452067Aaaaww, MW:LL is ded? A few years ago there was two full servers on weekend peak hours, and a single full server during workdays.But i agree, FUCK Aerospace, way too tanky for the damage they can deal, they are effectively unkillable if the pilot knows what he's doing.What's your favorite meme mech/veh?Mine was the Thumper Rommel used in close quarters.>>1452270Oh fuck off.
>>1452369>Oh fuck off.It's your bank account/identity/sensitive data, not mine. I don't give a fuck. You've been warned.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/736590/Operation_Harsh_Doorstop/Has anyone here played this?
>>1453093No but I still think Operation Harsh Doorstop has got to be one of the dumbest names I've ever heard.
>>1453114>Operation Harsh DoorstopI thought it was a joke at first.
>>1453093>15k reviews>150 in gamehmm
>>1453642When I checked it yesterday it had the same playercount as gronch. So people definitely play it.
>>1450538>Is there a single multipler tacshooter that doesn't run poorly?Isonzo>They simulate ballisticsNot really.
>>1453697>same playercount as gronch. So people definitely play it.but nobody plays ground branch
>>1453845Someone clearly does.
>>1452270What is this zoomer ass post get your boogiemen out of here.>>1452369It's mostly dead. There's still some people playing on the weekends but its not as active as before. I've always liked some of the fast ground vees, almost any of the Chevaliers were good, the AC/10 one is a banger at start. I'm also a big fan of the classic 2 ERML ATM 6 Hephaestus, it's an amazing skirmisher unit and generally fast enough to get out of the way of brawlers.
I'm new to hell let loose and it absolutely fucking tilts me when the following scenario happens>find good spot to shoot my MG>Let out one burst>immediately get sniped by more than 2 different shooters who locked on to my position within secondsis this how it's supposed to feel
>>1450716>They simulate ballistics. Calculating bullet drop, speed, etcBattlefield and Apex also do that. Even CoD does now.
>>1454258every pvp shooter has cheaters, deal with it
>>1454258>>1454541I don't play HLL, but if its anything like Post Scriptum, where MGs have big ol' tracers and muzzle flash, you don't need to be a cheater to see the big obvious "shoot me" signal broadcast across the battlefield.If he's new chances are he also sets up in bad, obvious spots, with a too wide arc of fire where he's visible from across many angles.
>>1454258MG's in HLL have tracers and it's fairly easy to pinpoint their position. They also make a pretty distinctive sound that's easy to pinpoint as well. You have to luck out and play in a server full of situationally unaware morons (or during a free weekend) to rack up ridiculous numbers of kills with an MG. Or alternatively you can just constantly reposition whenever the enemy discovers your position and you start taking shots.>>1454560It's the same thing in Squad. People in that game react to any type of small arms fire pretty quickly, which ends most attempts to flank or pull diversions behind enemy lines before you manage to do any serious damage. Which is why I like Global Escalation in Squad. It has suppressors, making it really difficult to pinpoint your exact location and flanking/saboteur activity so fucking satisfying.
>>1450716Ballistics simulation was the first task given to a computer, in the last 70 years they've gotten better at it so I assure you this is not the reason
>>1454674Enlighten us.
easy red 2 will plan to give a scripting system for AI and missionshttps://steamcommunity.com/app/1324780/eventcomments/4849904345520054929?ctp=2game has come a long way.
>>1431495Does this have mp now? Played it like a year ago. Looking for a new game after counter strike finally shit the bed for good
>>1456509It always had mp (co-op).>counter strike finally shit the bed for good>check cs2 stats>over 1 mil people playing>still the most played game in the world by a long shotWhat did he mean by that?
>>1456509why would you go from counter strike, a MP PVP game to RoN an entirely PVE game?
>>1456658Yeah, I agree. He should try R6 Siege though. It's much shittier now compared to years ago, but it's still playable (just never touch ranked, ever).
i tactically enraged an apc
me and the boys getting back at the apc
>>1456776The game looks so much worse than I remember. Damn. Haven't touched it in probably 6 years at this point and don't feel like doing it ever again.
>raid a brit camp>yoink an ir scopebrits are not gonna like this one :)
>BI allegedly looking to buy the Ghost Recon IP from Ubisoft's dying/shitting corpseDamnThat being said, funny how Ghost Recon 1 was billed as being futuristic when it came out but it came out right before the GWOT started and tech/gear immediately shifted rapidly. It's basically on the same tech level as Reforger.
>>1459366Huh, I'll allow it as long as they reel the timeline back to the 2000s.While they're at it they can buy Joint Ops from THQ, that game was too good to die without a sequel.
>>1459668At this point Bohemia Interactive are the only devs I trust to make a good boots-on-the-ground milsim/sandbox. I hate how they basically have a monopoly on the genre.
>>1459366sauce? would be pretty cool
>>1459366>futuristicInteresting that you say that, because that's exactly what kinda put me off from liking it back then. I was used to not being able to see the weapon from R6, but for some reason I was seriously disappointed by GR. Perhaps it was the limited weapon selection compared to R6, but it felt so weird and exotic to me.>>1459668I never got to play Joint Operations in proper multiplayer. All we could do was a 3 person LAN coop. I'd love to play a proper round with a full server once.
how's arma reforger from a multiplayer perspective? looking for a game to replace cs2 with and played arma, squad and post scriptum before>>1456509if you find something that hits the same itch let me know. ron doesn't have pvp
i LECKING love rucking swat 4,Billions must swat.
For arma can you guys rec some interesting custom missions,campaigns ? (i own all dlcs)
>>1461408What about SWAT 6 (Ready or Not)
>>1443321>Europoors are notorious for not communicating in multiplayer gamesI feel like they hit both of the extremes and are nowhere in between, either they communicate so much you forget what quiet sounds like, or they might as well be an NPC that says ENEMY. MAN. 300 METERS. OVER THERE. and then dies.>>1454258The problem is HLL is pretty close to solved, every veteran player already knows the best places to put garrisons and where MGs are going to set up. It's why I stopped playing, I got real bored of chasing people around in a circle.>>1459694The fact that bohemia slop is considered good is the real travesty.
>>1461947>they might as well be an NPC that says ENEMY. MAN. 300 METERS. OVER THERE. and then dies.Kek.
>>1461947BIS was godlike from Operation Flashpoint until ArmA2.
>>1461947>they might as well be an NPC that says ENEMY. MAN. 300 METERS. OVER THERE. and then dies.The perfect teammate.
>>1462092You realize that was 15 years ago now, right?
>>1462109Yes and despite that the games are still great and far from slop.I'd argue that to this day, ArmA2 with ACE and ACRE is the absolute peak of milsim.No other game i played has had such in-depth artillery and mortar systems that are to this day unmatched.
>>1462182>I'd argue that to this day, ArmA2 with ACE and ACRE is the absolute peak of milsim.I don't disagree. I'm just disappointed that even bohemia can't do any better anymore it seems.
How do I make tank frens in Squad? No one wants to join my squad..
I started playing Dawn of War 2 online pvp matches. It's like Company of Heroes but in space. Fun!
>>1462574You don't. The vast majority of people in public servers are morons. Squad is one of those games that you play with existing friends, because of how awful randoms are.
I still love playing COH2 against AI. Randos are mostly good
>>1462731Play Ostfront. Way more realistic and fun than Company of Shit.
>>1462182Arma 3 w/ ACE3 is far superior to ACE Arma 2.The ACE team is having a hard time with Reforger because BI keeps beating them to the punch with MilSim features.
>>1462879How is the visibility in the game is it same as A3 ? (i litteraly canont see shit in PR or Squad but in arma i dont have that problem)>>1461687 (me)I played OP Shakal (i liked it)I tried Falklands one it was cool i guess but fucking RAWWWW
>>1462900>How is the visibility in the game is it same as A3What do you mean by visibility?If you mean foliage density/shadows and the ability to hide even at long rages then no. In Reforger you can legit make use of camo now.
>Hell Let Loose continues to bleed players>New content drip is insanely slow>Squad 44 can't keep a player count of more than a few hundred>God knows where '83 isIt's ogre
>>1463010Everyone is playing Enlisted (nah). I like HLL, to me it's the perfect large scale shooter in almost every single way. Except content. You can only play on the same maps with the same weapons and vehicles so much before you get bored to shit.
>>1463024I hadn't heard about Enlisted before. Is it good?Yeah, man. I love Hell Let Loose, and the community is pretty great too. It strangely recaptures that feeling of nostalgia I have for playing COD2 and Battlefield 2 all those years ago. Not sure why
>>1463029>Is it good?NTA but Enlisted is run by the same jews that do War Thunder so tread carefully.
>>1463047Oh, I'm good then. Thought maybe it was closer to HLL and S44 style play. I think that anon was being sarcastic
>>1462703Where do I make existing frens then? ;_;
>>1463104You find them in payday2 lobby then you play shit ton of games together but then slowly one by one they start getting lifes and you stay behind :(
>>1463234Nah. What really happens is you play a couple times together, then they forget about you and just sit on your steam friend list for years never interacting with you or acknowledging your existence in any way.
need '83
>>1463442Realistically is it ever releasing? Cold war gone hot is such a kino setting
>>1463442Sneed 2023.
>>1464126>Cold war gone hotIsn't that basically Reforger and a fuckload of other games
>>1463029not really. the tanks are fun, but the maps are so small and with the perks and meta loadouts, its basically CoD, right down to the lobbies being like 20 people max but now you have to control a bunch of shitty stupid bots.
>>1463442Thought it was cancelled?
>>1464824Cancelled, picked up by new devs.Cautiously optimistic, low expectations.
>>1464837Oh pleasant surprise. Still remember the through the gun sight vids from a few years back. I desperately need a new fun mp game
>>1464843>I desperately need a new fun mp gameSame, brother. Same. I picked up Siege again after Hunt shat its pants, but would love something fresh.
>Join Ukrainian server>No one working together, everyone doing their own shit
>>1465350What happened to hunt? Returned hunt because of the devs. siege was fun for a while with friends. Gonna get rising storm 2 next. Anything to keep me away from cs2
>>1467457Hate how Ukies have become to pub servers what jews/Israelis have become to boomers. Something to be worshiped.
Did anyone else play Resistance & Liberation? It was SO fun but no game quite captures the essence of it anymore. I feel like the time of the more interesting shooters is gone; Red Orchestra 2 is another I miss playing.
>>1467457>Join any server>No one working together, everyone doing their own shitFixed that for you. If you want teamwork, you gotta bring friends in these types of games, sadly. But really, that applies to most multiplayer games out there. Randoms are too retarded/can't be bothered to coordinate with you most of the time.
Man Squad has gotten so much worse after the free weekend.Teams are even more retarded than before.
>>1469446Every single time. I remember when I first started Squid around 2 years ago they'd use comms in almost every single squad I joined on every single server. Now it's either some incomprehensible foreign gobbledygook or deafening silence. ICO sure "fixed" things.
>>1431308I like Squad :)
>>1462574You either join an armor squad or get on coms/team chat and ask for a gunner/driver. Also try making your squad right at the start (but with the proper armor name for vehicle claim) that way everyone joins and you can say>this is a tank squad, sissies>grab a crewman kit or join a real squadAlso don't act autistic
>>1469446>>1469476Sounds like it's up to y'all, as the veteran players, to lead to retards to victory. A lot of them follow orders, especially if you yell them over and over, and clearly communicate what needs to get done
Arma 4 coming 2027https://files.catbox.moe/g9xjup.mp4
>>1471433Might as well release in 10 years.
>>1471433Neat, i like their commitment to orchestra and the return to the Cold War
Anybody tried new DayZ expanison ? (i will never play that shit it was waste of money)
>>1471433>13-14 years after Arma 3I know they spent a huge amount of that time making Enfusion but christ...Do they have any big plans for Reforger after the Final Strike update us released?
>>1472116Yeah, it's more difficult cause you can't grow shit and everything starts off frozen in terms of food & water; they do give you a knife immediately to start a fire which is nice.. You can eat the snow but you get lead poisoning if you do. Map is shit since it's just a modified Tanoa, but otherwise it's fun. People are in general nicer too since if you KOS you're SOL, had a group of like 7 or so just chilling out eating fish and warming up by the fire. Might just be early days though.
>>1461687Just in case you've been living under a rock I'll mention Antistasi Ultimate + your modset of choice. I've sunk too much time into stasi.lately I've been really enjoying the Direct Action scenarios. Designed to be played with a small group of friends, but is plenty playable and plenty of fun solo
>>1473071>only 10 days lateI already played it but i want something that is not open world n shit i want to enter a mission i get the obj i do the obj then i exit and mission is finished and all that happened in between was carefully handrcrafted by map maker
>>1473215it's a slow moving thread and you didn't get a good answer, sorry homo
Newest list is outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awYIZ3D5pm0
>>1473215Dynamic Recon Ops is probably your best option to go. ALiVE works for that too I think, you'll just have to go on the hunt for it to find what you want best. Otherwise you're going to have to find missions themselves or make it yourself, you're not going to find anything handcrafted by using generated stuff. >>1473309Don't be a nigger.
New Ostfront DLC about the western front is out.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2904660/Call_to_Arms__Gates_of_Hell_Airborne/?curator_clanid=10379584
quasimorph bros--- what faction do you like supporting the most?
>>1476030Quasimodo.https://youtube.com/watch?v=fOYJVL9bzk4
>>1472116I haven't but apparently it's a big hit. I didn't like playing Namalsk all that much, due to the harshness of the cold, having to make fires so often, the spawn zones for players. So I dunno yet when I'll get around to it. I can't wait for a tropical dlc map or an dlc desert map. Another thing, these chilly temperatures in fall and going into winter, I especially dislike playing bitter cold maps during real life winter. A lot of players seem to like it but not me.
rip /&tg/;___;
hitman spammer wonzomboid spammer wonciv4x wonenjoy purgatory
give me your builds in Quasimorph--- i'm very new to the game (last time i played it was when it just released as EA on steam, so the game had much less stuff than now)
Why do squad servers not let you solo armor>noooo you have to drive some asshole aroundI heard a guy ask for a driver for like 15 mins straight rather than offer to drive himself for a gunner. I refuse on principle to drive for assholes like that>>1480678what the fuck do you mean builds nigga you use what you random
>>1481329>Why do squad servers not let you solo armorbecause soloing shit makes it about 25% as effective as using it cooperation with others.In the 10 seconds it takes for you to switch seats you're already hit twice and just wasted the asset.So either get friends, accept not getting the exciting role, or play infantry.
>>1480622it was over as soon as those guys started posting.genshin impact might as hell have been posted. the thread became a blog for some retards favorite shitty game.
>>1482411Basically, yeah. Also a lot of mechashit that drowned out the discussion of everything else. Spammers trying to out-circlejerk each other. Kind of glad /&tg/ died because it completely lost its identity at the end there. /vg/ sucks anyway, it's full of morons and gachafaggots, I'm honestly surprised /&tg/ lasted as long as it did.
>>1482801/&tg/'s entire existence was just out of spite against the Arma series.
>>1483675I never posted in the milsim (de-facto arma) general itself, but I was there in /&tg/ from almost the very beginning. It was very different. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but apparently there was some drama and this group of posters who liked tactical games other than arma split off and made their own general.
>>1483784Ye, i didn't follow the ArmA vs other milsim drama either, but /&tg/ turned into a blog for a few artists towards the end, while those were reliable bumps, there just wasn't much worthwhile discussion going on and the definition of "tactical" diluted more and more as well.
>>1484137Yeah, lol. I remember at one point someone unironically started talking about My Animal Crossing and no one minded or cared. The general got hijacked by morons (who, if you read the first few posts in this thread, came here to cry and bitch about the fact that we're keeping it strictly tactical now and not talking about their favorite shit games). But like I said, /vg/ is a shithole, so I'm glad we're here now. The very idea of spamming numbered threads over and over again as quickly as possible (while trying to keep up with gachafaggots) promotes low quality discussion.
>>1462092true true https://youtu.be/a68-jew_NXk
>>1484411>cry and bitch about the fact that we're keeping it strictly tactical now and not talking about their favorite shit gamesIm a bit upset about no Rainbow Six. I always thought it was pretty tactical, but guess not :/
>>1485034Siege can go fuck itself, zoomer twitch shooter with no lick of realism other than "gun go bang".I personally enjoyed the Vegas series, but I'd argue they don't really fit the bill either.The older entries can stay, Raven Shield was a much discussed classic, even in /milsim/
>>1485036Yeah, I enjoy vegases for what they were, but was mainly talking about classic, rogue spear, and ravenshield.
Thats nice and all. Anything f2p which doesn't have potato server and not botted up?
>>1485036This is what happens when original devs are laid off and replaced with valorant d copy devs.
>>1485034the fact we only got 1 actual tactical ghost recon game and now rainbow six siege is also retard tier is just sadi hate the live service model so much bros
>>1459694A "game" just as woke/evil as it's prequels:
>>1485097Didn't it happen to Hunt too? Or I guess they replaced their general manager, and the current one is a total cook.
I remember reading anons talking about battlezone and remasters.I never played any of them. Which one I should get? First one or second one?Might play with a friend too, so multiplayer is important
Is the tactical genre dead? It really seems like what we have is all we're ever gonna get barring ArmA4, but given bohemia's track record it'll be ~5 years after it releases before it's finally playable.
>>1490252Reforger is plenty fun already, and all development on Reforger is being used for 4rmA (or Arm4). Conflict mode is great
>>1428937Rising Strom 2 just got an update. Improved security and VoIP fixes.https://steamcommunity.com/games/418460/announcements/detail/4438953498491486724?snr=2___
>>1490129They're both different enough games that their fanbases have very little overlap. Battlezone 1 (98 redux) has much smaller unit counts, finite resources and a much bigger focus on (You)r combat skills. Battlezone 2 (combat commander) is more like a standard RTS where the focus is on map control and controlling larger groups of units. Your individual contribution is less important than in BZ1 as long as you're managing your base/economy behind you.Personally I like BZ:CC a lot more than BZ:R and I have hooked friends on it in the past, but both games have pretty much equal fanbases (ie they're dead as fuck but with lots of mod content)
>>1490129>>1492349No one cares about mechashit, samefag.
>>1492349thanks
we got the finest planes people.https://youtu.be/i-DTKFrJ6Qc?si=ZQOsiTsWWwQbO1mO
>>1492349I think BZ1 had much more entertaining campaigns, and the gameplay feels faster than BZ:CC; however, BZ:CC is better for multiplayer. It's less prone to random crashes, and the MPI mode is fun for comp stomping with friends.But the BZ:R campaigns have a special place in my heart, maybe just because of nostalgia and also it just had the "cold war cool" thing going on
>>1495301>>1495302can i play arma with you?
Is there any way at all in arma 3 to keep the AI from wasting all of their AT launchers on moving vehicles that are 900m away
>>1495393Maybe. Know any good servers?>>1495406Only way that I am aware of is to keep them on hold fire. Stealth mode is also supposed to inhibit AI engagement range but I don't know if it works well for AT.
>>1495406Wasting? In my experience the AI will nail them no matter how far or fast they're moving. Sometimes T1000s shouldn't be allowed on the battlefield
>>1495782gotcha, unfortunately not helpful the situations I'm thinking of. Say we're engaged with infantry nearby but a tank gets spotted. I want my dudes to stay in hard cover, fight the infantry, and eventually we can try taking smart shots against the armor. Instead they usually waste the shot immediately and we're left helpless once the armor starts coming for us >>1495844in my experience they hit the target like 5-10% of the time, 80% of the time it's a miss, and the last 10% it's five feet in front of them and they kill themselves and usually me also. I'm usually playing with RHS and 90% the launchers my retards are carrying are M136s. It's also great when playing Antistasi and the enemy paradrops in light armor, and the entire garrison plus my squad launches 50 M136s at it as it lazily floats down and they all miss. And then it rapes all the infantry on the ground because they all blew their load early
>>1495861Is everyone in your squad carrying a launcher? Keep 1 or 2 members in reserve on hold fire, target vehicle, while you and the rest deal with the close fighting. Then when the shots against the armor present themselves, order the reserve launchers to open up.>It's also great when playing Antistasi and the enemy paradrops in light armor, and the entire garrison plus my squad launches 50 M136s at it as it lazily floats down and they all miss. And then it rapes all the infantry on the ground because they all blew their load earlylol
>>1496017what mod are you using for jtac shenanigans?
>>1496018Drongo's Air Ops. It's pretty sweet.
>>1495954> Keep 1 or 2 members in reserve on hold fireThis will work, just stinks when a significant portion of your squad can't contribute to the fight, oh well. Been playing Forgotten Few 2, so you only get 6 dudes in your squad>>1496030Neat, thanksI wish I was autistic enough to learn how to do it properly. Check this shit out. This guy's videos are greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7h3Iu_F0-M
>>1496144NTA but in my experience it's infinitely easier doing it with real people than the AI.
>>1496144That video is cool as fuck. Props to the guys who get into it like that.>>1496146Directing CAS or engaging armor with portable launchers? I get that both are easier with real people but for a quick and dirty op tard wrangling the AI is about all I have time for. Drongo's air ops has a mapclick mode that basically translates to, "Hey dude give me a gunrun/bomb on this grid, come in from the N/E/S/W".
>>1496322>Directing CASThat one, should have specified. Though I suppose both really.
>>1495782What server are you on in your webms?
>>1495406>>1495782>>1495844
Armored Brigade 2 release on the 19th, been beta testing it, it's really really good
>>1497709How detailed is the infantry combat?
>>1497729it's not detailed to the level of something like combat mission, but the scale is also MASSIVE compared to combat mission. the realism aspects of it are just so good, APM won't really help you here because even just giving orders has a delay depending on how far away the unit is from command units (there's a chain of command and information transmission that isn't instantaneous like most strategy games). the pacing feels REALLY good, things generally move a bit slower but then action happens fast when it happens. engagements feel realistic and are more about good positioning than spamming commands. if you're into larger scale strategy and aren't a graphics whore you'll love this. the graphics could be a bit better but they've said repeatedly it was a tradeoff for the smooth scale, and if you're playing this type of game that likely won't bug you. If this game had WARNO graphics it would basically be 10/10 for everyone IMO. i know i sound like a shill but i've been so excited for this game ALL year and the beta is SO FUCKING GOOD, there is just so much depth and replayability. A+ would recommend
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I'm gonna play some HLL tonight faggots
>>1502625And did you have good time faggot ?
>about to assassinate the target>dumbass bitch karen decides to walk in and lecture me
>>1503128This is a board for multiplayer games, fuck off
would there be an audience for 4chins arma server? Would primarily run antistasi campaigns, forgotten few campaigns, maybe direct action, and then maybe some other one-off scenarios if people are all boned up for a particular mission they want to try
>>1503128Did you get lost, little faggot? If I see you here again, I don't know what I'm going to do to you.
>>1503868There might be but it's a big investment to run one and organize all those missions and uptime on the server itself. It might be good but you have to think if you'll be able to be up to it.
I've been playing Isonzo for the free weekend and I liked it a lot. Decided to buy it so that I can experience the game properly. Right now it's just a CoD/BF fragfest, but I can see how fun it'd be with all the tactics and the coordinated pushes.I have over 2000 hours in HLL and I needed something to scratch that itch as the community on HLL has been decreasing in quality. Nobody wants to take the time to explain new players what to do, so every game there's 10 people on each side running around the map, doing fuck all, people running away from the point as soon as they take it, losing it immediately. So now you have 10-15 players by the next point, just lost the previous point and while the team scrambles to retake the point they just lost the enemy is capturing the last point cause there's no garries there.
>>1503868I would play the Antistasi and man these dlcs really expand the size
I've been playing isonzo because of the free weekend. Very fun. I like just firing shots towards spotter marks and getting kills on people I had no chance of seeing with my eyes
Play hideous destructor.
>>1504152>>1504248how do you cope with your teammates playing call of duty at the frontlines as the enemy team rapes your objectives?
Rising storm 2 is back, 3000 players online over the weekend.
>>1433508"Hell let loose"? more like "crash to desktop"For reasons as silly as:>Engineer placed a blueprint>Buildings changing level of detail
>>1496467Local server. Know any good servers?>>1497593Owned.>>1503868Might be cool. Post details if it happens.
>>1505417>sweaty tryhards that spent 3000 hours in game coordinating commanders to sandbagyikes!
Hows steams record last 60seconds thing is it good ?
Any free tactical games?(preferably non-steam, but I'll take anything)
>>1506303Everything is free on torrent trackers, my guy.
>>1506303Project Reality
>>1506197Slightly noticeable drop in frames depending on your specs but it also just works
>>1503868Maybe on Saturday evenings for euros/afternoon for muricans.
>>1503108Yeah faggot it was fun. Been a while since I'd played. I think I rekindled my addiction
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx9vAs6-2n1C5N7ufMUPKJpIPuFqKojbUv?si=vpVHOJdtrK8sQrkHWill they fix the terminator AI in Arma 4? This can be somewhat mitigated by reducing the AI precision, but for whatever reason any AI on turrets are still aimbots and there's nothing you can do about it
>>1506960its harder to make ai human like rather than spinbotters
>>1428937Question about Red Orchestra.Does it have pirated servers? Shit is unironically too fucking expensive in my third world shithole and I've already spent my money on hardware upgrades.
>>1505208I've seen worse playerbases. If you remind teammates to defend the objective in text/voice chat they get the hint pretty quickly.Overall I really like Isonzo I don't have much negative to say about it. The map design is questionable at times with oddly placed map boundaries, barbed wire, and spawns. I really fucking hate when I walk into a single strand of barbed wire that's put in high traffic areas for no reason. The only truly atrocious maps are dolomiti and the new one adamello but the rest are fine. Also it being WWI instead of WWII the weapon variety is not the best.
>>1507153Nigga im sorry but the game is fucking DEAD even if there were pirated servers they are prob ghost towns just rob some child coming from school or go around the town and collect coins and you will have enough>Also check this site and make sure to select right region https://gg.deals/
>>1507348>3 eurosThe heroes of stalingrad version is 20 dollars on steam and the site doesn't offer deals for my region. How lovely.>deadI seriously doubt that, I can still find people playing BF1942 to this day. There is just no way the game everyone and their mother sucks off for "le epic tank combat" is dead.
>>1507481Some sites will auto detect your region and say if your game can be activated so check some of those sites anyway (from which shithole are you Turkey?)
>ace
>>1506960LAMBS_Turrets>This mod tweaks many turret based weapons (including static HMGs) to increase dispersion, especially at shorter ranges.>>1508079ARMA is literally unplayable without ACE.
