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>Dofus
Unity beta now in its 3rd phase, official release on December 3rd.
Download: https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/download
Guides: https://pastebin.com/aqfxZywY
News: https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/news/announcements
Pre-register: https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/news/new-servers (This is only for the new servers. International players are between Dakal 1, 2, and 3, most anons will be on 2. New servers will have free transfers for the first few weeks, so don't worry about getting the right one.)

>Dofus Retro
Download: https://www.dofus-retro.com/en/mmorpg/download
Guides: https://pastebin.com/EnGbaLMz

>Wakfu
Download: https://www.wakfu.com/en/mmorpg/download
Guides: https://pastebin.com/Ae7X8phu

>Waven
Download: https://www.waven-game.com/en/download
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>>1499159
total cra death
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>>1499159
For mobilebros, here's a link to Dofus Touch. https://www.dofus-touch.com/en/mmorpg/download

Also for Dofus and Wakfu, servers listed as "single-account", also known as "monoaccount", mean players can only run one instance of the game. Normal servers, or "multi", mean you can run several with multibox. Mono servers are like a classic MMO experience, multi is more of a singleplayer RPG due to player social dynamics, different kinds of fun for people. Much of Wakfu can be played f2p.
Subbing in Dofus is cheap and worth it since you can get on mono, a week's sub is just a few bucks.
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If you want to play Dofus Unity with some /vm/ lads:
>discord.gg/sP6sHED7Zk
We're going on Dakal 2.
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What's the Dofus equivalent of this?
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considering the starterpack to try out classes on beta, does it actually give you a level 200 to try out shit?
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>>1499179
WTB (fake item that leads you to a phishing link when you google it)

>>1499189
It gives you as many level 200s as you want, and any gear you want, you can just buy 1 week if you want to try it
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>>1499189
beta gives you everything the game has to offer for free, so you can test any level, any gear, anything you want
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>>1499179
>player 1: sacre bleu!
>player 2: honhonhonhonhon
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>>1499179
>Selling audio codes pay first
>Selling gelano (shit rolls) 99999999999999k
>Cheap kama visit £eChinoi$.com
>WTB egirl
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>>1499175
What if I want to play Dofus with /vm/ lads but don't want to install Discord?
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>>1499208
Then you just join the guild ingame and nothing else, you don't NEED to be in the discord
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>>1499208
Fortunately for you it works in browser, you can join the guild without joining discord though, as long as you can contain your anti discord autism no one cares if you don't join it.
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>>1499179
Spic servers be like
>RESELLER!!!1 Buying items at 1/10 of their market price!!!1
>lvl 1 looking for a gp
>fuck [insert soccer team]
>(to the guy above) the fuck did you just say bitch?
>[insert random ass player's name] is a faggot
>RESELLER!!!
>SELLING MELONS!! (is Colombian or Venezuelan)
>[some guy trying to scam you]
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>>1499179
>(Commerce) Sasuke-God-X : ACHETE / COMPRO / BUY [Gobbal pubic hair]
>(Recruitment) Pro-Sacri : Recrute sasa pour blop VS drop
>Elnoobito : Anyone got 1k for zaap plz?
>(Recruitment) Sadi-weed : NEED 2 PEOPLE TO STAND ON A TILE -42;69 I PAY 50kk
>(Private) Asdfa-werwr : @@@ CHEAP KAMA FAST @@@ www.getscammedyourmoney.com
>(Recruitment) El-Retardo : Hola estoy reclutando para mi gremio Los Hombres de la Muerte
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What's the status on beta fire fromagelance being the most broken class in the game's history?
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The only classes you can go wrong with if you're new are Osamodas and Xelor

Otherwise just b urself
Every class is good at something
There's no point falling for the "grass is greener" mentality, because you will literally never be satisfied, as classes are meant to have pros and cons.
Besides that pick the class you like the look of most (playstyle, gimmicks, content or aesthetics).
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>>1499231
i would pick based on boob size but so far feca and sac are tied
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>>1499231
And most talk of meta before the early game is pretty much irrelevant. The majority of casuals will have been filtered by then, before they can even see their classes true potential.
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>>1499224
the frenchoids don't seem to be getting upset about it, can't be that broken
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>>1499235
I'd pick based on the goddess then. Dunno about you, but for me, those fucking Feca goddess hips end up sealing the deal.
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Total newfag here
I heard about Dofus from /v/ and it sounded neat, so I came to check out the /vm/ thread but OP lists like 3 different games so I'm not sure if they're all variations of one another or there's a sequel or what
Where should a newnigger start his journey into cute girls and autistic french vidya?
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>>1499249
Dofus is a 20 year old game made in flash. It's moving to unity engine in about 3 weeks, that's why everyone is hyped about it. There will be new servers on which most of the playebase will be playing. This is the place to start, if you want to play.
Wakfu is a newer game, but it offers much less than Dofus and it's pretty dead right now.
Waven is dogshit, don't even bother.
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>>1499249
Dofus is the oldest, it's getting a huge revamp/engine upgrade next month with new servers and it's what we're all waiting for, there's also classic servers if you for some reason want to play abysmal dogshit.
Wakfu is basically the same game, at the start it was intended to be a more sandbox variant of Dofus and probably meant to replace it but it flopped hard and then they revamped it into a themepark game exactly like Dofus, has gotten very little attention from Ankama since then, still fun but more or less dead for now.
Waven is pretty much a shitty mobile gamified version of Dofus/Wakfu, not worth bothering with.
There's also Dofus Touch which is a mobile version of Dofus but slightly different, and an older version, I don't see much reason to play this.
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Btw, for people with too much autism or discord hate, they made guilds easier to make. I guess as soon as we created it, someone will post the name here so more people can join.
Discord is still useful in case you want to do something at X hour with some anons but suit yourself on how to play honestly
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I'm not interacting with any of you weirdos
What's the best class for solo play?
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>>1499249
If you want you can try Waven
It's actually not a bad game but it competes with Dofus
It's not a good long-term game though because it runs out of content/replayability stuff while being slightly less grindy and more easy than Dofus.

Dofus is the OG game everything else is based off of and is the best because they nailed a ton of MMORPG stuff down.
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>>1499273
Xelor
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>>1499273
any because you won't get very far soloing in a game like this
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>>1499278
some would say.... he's ngmi
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>>1499258
>>1499252
>>1499274
Thanks for the answers
I am probably going to try playing with my wife. I like the sound that there's a necessity for grouping in Dofus, but how easy is it to duo with other players? Any particular classes that are easy to learn or that I should stay away from?
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>>1499231
guess i'll play water cra
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>>1499284
>>1499231
besides this

only thing you should be wary of is higher complexity classes (you need to put more mental effort to think through their best play)

like Eliotrope uses portals, Hupper and Ecaflip has their mechanics, Rogue and Fogger manages their bombs, Sadida manages their mechanics, meanwhile Cra, Feca, Iop, Ougi can more or less through out abilities

but the game has a steep progression, as you unlock skills over time, so even hard classes give you time to learn, so in theory that hard class might not be so hard once you have lots of hours progressing into it, and getting used to every new skill, rather than getting all skills at once
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>>1499284
The gameplay is pretty simple so you can't really go wrong with any class you want, some are better than others but that's every MMO. Just don't pick Xelor.
Duoing is viable for a lot of content but you can struggle sometimes, there's even achievements for completing dungeons in a party of two, you'll usually have to overgear to do it that way though.
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Aren't they reworking Xelor in the beta?
Why is everyone calling it shit still?
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Could we not let the egotistical faggot be the guild leader?
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>>1499289
Yes, they reworked it then immediately nerfed it again, Xelor isn't allowed to be good.
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>>1499291
can't be worse than osa
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>>1499291
even if it's good it'll get nerfed so picking it is bait
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>>1499289
>Why is everyone calling <class> shit still?
Cope due to skill issues.
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i'm kinda hesitant on rolling cra because all the newfag complains might actually get them nerfed
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>>1499305
cra never gets nerfed, it's the most popular class
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>>1499306
it's popular because because it's very strong and retardproof tho
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>>1499231
Add Rogue to the list.
If you don't know what you're doing it's completely useless.
In team, the team has to play for you or your kinda useless too

>>1499289
>>1499291
It's not shit, but the rework is boring.
The new spell, astrolabe, kinda reflect the entire rework. They removed spontaneous return, a seemingly simple spell but that allow a shit ton of good combo for the class, and replace it by a spell that is a basic point and clic TP (no symmetry, pivot or whatever), or a free telefrag if you use it on an enemy.
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>>1499307
yeah, but it doesn't get nerfed, only buffs.
if it does receieve a nerf it gets a buff to something else that ends up making the class stronger as a whole, devs are very biased towards certain classes.
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>>1499286
>Sadida manages their mechanics
the only mechanic they have to care about is infection and it plays itself
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>>1499311
>devs are very biased towards certain classes.
Heard the same for upper and panda, at least it's not one single class shitting on everything else
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>>1499313
They have trees, summons/dolls and infection
They use all of them differently
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what's the difference between a single & multi account? which one's better if you wanted to dip your toe into the game?
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>>1499356
exactly what it sounds like, multi account server lets you run multiple clients at the same time, single account does not.
multi account = single player game
single account = MMO
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>>1499357
newfag here, what prevents a faggot from realistically multiboxing the game on mono if he really wanted to
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>>1499364
same thing that prevents faggots from botting in MMOs
detecting them and banning
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>>1499364
SMS verification and anticheat preventing VM usage, you can get around it with multiple devices and phone numbers but who's going to bother with that? You also need a VPN solution that isn't blocked if you want more than 2 accounts.
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>>1499252
>It's moving to unity engine in about 3 weeks, that's why everyone is hyped about it. There will be new servers on which most of the playebase will be playing
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask about this.
So basically the only reason to start playing on the older servers right now is to familiarize yourself with the game for the new server launch, correct? There's no carry-over from characters on old servers to new ones, or is there some means of transferring characters to the new one?
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>>1499372
Yeah, new servers can't be transferred to, they're entirely fresh starts.
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>>1499364
the game also requires a sub
so if you wanna double your subscription then lmao
people can also see your fights so it'd be easy to report you
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>>1499364
They have some measures others have addressed in replies, but the big thing is that if you are playing just 2 characters, you can probably get away with it fine and no one will really notice you, nor is that strange if you + 1 other account are playing from household and basically do everything together.
But if you are playing 4 characters? 6? 8? yeah its noticeable and you will get banned.

I don't really think people have a problem with people inherently playing multiple accounts, like if you just run 2 characters its not that big of a deal.
Its when you start running an entire team and exclusively play by yourself and powerfarm shit to maximize profit, if you are just fucking around on 2 characters casually playing no one really gives a shit.
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I have never fought the Giant Kralove
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I don't think I have it in me to redo the dofus quests bros
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Man did they really remove every portrait from the game for this dumb speech bubble instead?
Please tell me it's at least a temporary thing until they redo them in v3 style
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>>1499464
Lmao Ochrelet
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>>1499474
?
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I'm probably retarded but just to confirm -- Dofus Unity is 3.0 and it has a whole revamp of the skills and such, right? I'm reading through wikis and things don't seem to match up what's in the beta client. I'm guessing all the wikis are old 2.0 information?
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>>1499492
the beta has a lot of balance changes so some things are outdated, especially wikis since this game has a tiny english playerbase, they were probably outdated even before unity
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>>1499493
That's fair. I'm mostly just reading skill descriptions and such so I can just read it from the client.
Thanks for the help.
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>>1499159
>pre-registering for the new servers
>OP says most anons will be on 2
>See this
Bros?
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>>1499569
RIP
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>>1499569
just you, and me
the perfect server
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>>1499576
>Anon awaiting the fly to enter his web
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It's been years since I've played Dofus, but with the 3.0 thing and me having a lot of time thanks to an extremely chill home office job I am excited to play.
I've been reading about it, I remember I used to think Fecas were pretty cool, but could anyone in here confirm some of my questions? I understand shit is probably different in 3.0 but any response works.
>Fecas unlock their first set of glyphs around lv60-80?
>Consensus seem to be that they are very bad and slower than most other classes during the early game, correct?
>Chance seems to be a highly popular all around stat for them, does it stand true even at end game?

Even if it's just information from current Dofus helps a lot to give myself an idea, thanks
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>>1499587
>Chance seems to be a highly popular all around stat for them, does it stand true even at end game?
Yes.
It's because their best Chance ability is a 4AP, long range, decent damage 4 cell push. Dofus end-game favoring range, positioning and kiting.
>Consensus seem to be that they are very bad and slower than most other classes during the early game, correct?
Pretty much. Don't worry about it though.
>Fecas unlock their first set of glyphs around lv60-80?
Glyphs actually aren't that important as they're just toss-and-go. Though they're the most damage efficient spells for Feca and are useful for farming in the future.
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>>1499601
Thank you!
And alright, that is very good to know.
I mostly asked about glyphs because well, from what I remember they were a very huge part of the class identity, I might be completely wrong though.
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>>1499604
They are a part of the class but you can honestly play without them in end-game. The super-big glyphs often have shorter cast range, which isn't fitting for a ranged-kiting style of style. The spell variants are used more because they have longer range and are basically just an efficient damaging spell, or even have more practical utility.
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>>1499608
Thanks anon, I do appreciate it a lot.
I am still on the fence between Fecas and Steamers, both look very cool, but I had a lot more questions about Fecas overall, mostly because I have not researched a lot about Steamers.
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>>1499569
This means there is 1/15000 available slots left. 14999 players have preregistered on this server.
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>>1499587
Chance is better for early levels solo because it has more range than the rest but Earth pumps better damage all the way. Glyphs makes Feca one of the best AoE class in the game because you can stack those glyphs and trigger their damage by teleporting on them.
>>1499601
>Glyphs actually aren't that important as they're just toss-and-go.
/agg/ does not give misleading information about classes for a day challenge (impossible)
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>>1499775
Kill yourself retard, I gave plenty of information on them and I have a level 200 Feca. What the fuck have you done besides jerk off to Dantinea?
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>>1499792
>Cra's AoE is not that important it's just something you toss up and here there
That's how retarded your statement reads. Feca is legit the 3rd best AoE damage dealer in the game and you're downplaying it. Stfu you dumb nigger.
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>>1499796
I didn't say anything about Cras
Yes, Feca is in theory one of the best AOE damage dealers, except for the fact their giant glyphs are short ranged you gigantic faggot. I'm downplaying it because it's not relevant for progressing content and because the AoE Feca farm strat also doesn't work for poor, retarded newfags.

You will literally never spam Glyphs doing dungeon bosses. You might to clear dungeons and if you do enjoy being within rape distance.
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>Feca
>13-14 max range water spells
>Glyphs
>7 range (+2 from AoE)
>Rest are 5

Wow it's like you can't even use the Glyphs if you play properly!
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Glyphs are literally at Scarier range
If you think being an AoE damage dealer is so cool just play them.
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>>1499796
>3rd best
Iop
Sacrier
Forge
Sadida (technically)
Fogg
Panda
Rogue
Cra is better at ranged (so just better)

Are all better.
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>>1499804
>I didn't say anything about Cras
That's literally saying the same thing. Does Cra relies on AoE damage to clear dungeons? No. Is it "not important"? No.
>AoE Feca farm strat also doesn't work for poor, retarded newfags.
It does as soon as you unlock glyphs. Spreading misinformation again.
>Dungeons are the only content in the game
lol
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>>1499817
Cra AoE damage isn't within melee range, kill yourself you schizo.
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>>1499812
>Forge
>Cra
#1 and #2
>Sadida
Good but takes more turns
>Rogue
Same type of deal plus requires setups
>Iop
>Sacrier
>Panda
Good but smaller AoE
>Fogg
Are you high? Could have mentioned Earth Eni but you're retarded.
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>>1499825
>Cra AoE damage isn't within melee range, kill yourself you schizo.
So by your definition Forgelance that's not Water is bad? Dumbass nigger just stfu.
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>>1499817
NTA, but why do keep fighting that strawman? It's not a good look if you want to be taken seriously
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>>1499829
>>1499833
Schizo fucking mad Feca AoE shit btfo
>Takes more turns
Sadida can AoE and kite mobs, Feca cucks need bread to even farm using glyphs if they're going to bait mobs into them
Sacriers don't need bread and have a dozen attraction abilities, "AoE" size doesn't matter + all of them deal more damage. Iop and Panda make their own killzones.

Fogg doesn't kill itself to deal AoE damage.

Don't know what your schizo ass is saying about water lance.
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>>1499833
All Forge elements have massive AoEs and a mix of decent range and even closer ranged abilities. Water is exceptional as the distance element.
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I will pick Eni so I can give schizos their meds.
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>>1499848
and post your cute feet online
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>>1499836
>Nooo you must consider the class in a vacuum
>>1499837
Faster and bigger is better. Imagine pretending Feca of all classes is fragile or saying they don't have attraction. Is that really who am I arguing with right now? You're clueless.
>>1499839
Forgelance has less range on their AoE than Feca's glyph except on Water. Yet it's the best AoE class as Fire. Apparently you niggers can't even read and would rather claim retarded shit instead.
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>>1499855
Post your retarded level 80 glyph farm strat and build you schizo. Go on, let's see how it plays when you realize why people don't do it!
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>>1499829
Wasn't Fogg literally the fastest leveling class in the beta
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>>1499855
Feca glyphs are all one of each element and aren't spammable
Other classes have spammable AoEs or even several of a element

You're not spamming multiple glyphs anytime soon unless you find some godly Power set. And Power sets often naturally arent as strong as pure stats.
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>decent Q&A on Feca
>Schizo screeches Feca glyph is actually stronger
>"um okay but they have issues and -"
>REEEE FECAS ARE THE 3RD BEST AOE DAMAGE DEALERS AND SOMETHING ABOUT CRAS
>"they're not"
>more autistic screeching

Oh boy can't wait to see what happens in-game when someone dissed someone's pet-class
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This guy having a meltdown over a mere contradiction is going to be the guild "leader" by the way. Just let that sink in.
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how good is agi iop for low to mid level gameplay? and what is a good iop build for after that? just mono str?
I don't want to get to 150 or something and find agi sucks and str sucks and I need to slog through a bunch of bullshit as a shitty class before I even get to end game if its not worth it while wanting to class change the entire time and never even doing any late game stuff because of it.
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another day of dofus fags arguing about their brain dead classes that all do the same thing
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>>1499862
You could have baited me to do it if you pretended to be genuinely curious. Better luck next time retard.
>>1499865
Could be. I don't know enough about this class to tell. If I had to guess they're probably clearing fights they should have no business doing. They have crazy tools to manage difficult scenarios.
>>1499876
>Feca glyphs are all one of each element and aren't spammable
It does have a 1 turn downtime but its strength is the initial damage output + beginning of turn effects for a laughable amount of AP plus the filler AoE spells on top of that. AoE farming is all about clearing fast anyway.
For harder stuff they can go balls in, stack up, do great damage and make themselves immune then get blasted by the rest of their team. Nobody else can do that.
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>>1499966
Ye ye that's not him having a meltdown and calling people schizo over literally nothing. He truly is a calm and collected optimistic person.
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Animations and interfaces are completely bugged out in beta
Are they seriously going to have everything fixed and ready for the live release less than a month from now?
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>>1499981
how so?
whatever problems I've had are nothing compared to the absolute dumpster fire that is flash, I don't think people even understand how shit the current version is or they're so used to it they don't notice anymore.
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>>1499981
they fixed so much shit since the first beta I can believe it honestly, I haven't had much graphical bugs but I haven't played third phase so maybe they fucked everything up
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>>1499983
dofus 1.20 dumpster fire my beloved
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>Game is alright
Play Panda on beta and report back.
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>>1499987
you could just say what's wrong with it I'm not resubbing until release now
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How are the class items nowadays? Are they still funny and gimmicky?
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>>1499988
Panda is just glitched as hell. Your turns take forever because visuals are bugged. Sometimes they glitch out and you can't see them lmao.
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>>1499983
GUI will randomly reposition whenever I relog, some will be impossible to interact with until I disable and enable it again. The map preview is just permanently stuck in place when you activate it and only goes always after I relog
Mobs that go invisible will keep their sprite around the screen, yesterday I had 5 of the lanky bastard from the Kolosso dungeon burned on my screen until logged off
Those are just the ones I had in an hour of playing yesterday. There's no way anyone who played for any amount of time didn't have any menu issues.
Maybe it's a problem on my side? Did I need to reinstall the beta after the third phase started?

>>1499984
Here's hoping
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>>1499992
I haven't had any issues like that, only similar thing is that my settings reset every time they do a patch which is annoying.

>>1499990
Some classes still have missing visuals or sounds but it's nothing major or gamebreaking, I don't think it will take them long to fix that, there's still a few more patches before launch.
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>>1499989
basically unchanged, they're hardly ever used now
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>>1500002
I'll probably try to play around them when I can, they're such a fun idea and have always been shunned by ankama for some reasons
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>Guild drama before the guild exists
Guess I'll have to play with the frogs again
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>>1500009
Fabricated thread "drama" =/= guild drama
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>>1500009
ignore threadfags, this always happen in everything be it minecraft servers or mmo guilds, you will always have people making up drama in threads to make things look worse
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>>1500000
Can anyone else comment?
I'm seriously wondering if there's something wrong with my installation if I'm the only one getting these bugs
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>>1500006
class items are awful during leveling because half of their effects are about spells you don't have, don't bother ankama hates them they're pvp items in a world where pvp is about stats maxing
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>>1500016
I've only played panda against the training dummy and I never had these bugs. The worst thing that happened was no animation on Schnaps.
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>>1499992
Didn't have those issues but plenty of minor bugs
>>1500009
Please do that
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>>1500016
There's a lot of bugs overall, my UI breaks if I try to check buffs/debuffs and sometimes my UI just resets some parts of it
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just stop responding it's that simple
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>>1500067
Thank god my class is in the hipster half
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>>1500067
osabros...
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>>1500067
>Ougi not last
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>>1500067
Cra and Osa always at the opposite ends
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I don't even care if Osa is shit, I just wish they made it fun to play again
It was the coolest shit to summon cracklers and bworks before, now you got your choice of tofu, tofu but white, and tofu but big
Fucking soulless
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>>1500067
There is no way this many people will play Panda or Enutrof on mono by the way. Lots of multifags in this sample.
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>>1500090
why not, i though those classes were broken
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>>1500133
They are also boring. While this is not an issue in multiaccounting, it's a big issue if that's your main character in a mono server.
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>>1500133
they aren't the main character
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>>1500137
metafags never cared about fun tho
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>>1500140
People metafag much, much less in mono in comparison to multi.
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Any rushers here?
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>>1500137
Enu isn't boring unless you play it exclusively mp removal like multifags do
It's a more interesting cra with funny spells
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Why do some people pay to get through some dungeons? Isn't the whole point to try and do it by yourself?
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>>1500187
1. In mono, it may be harder to find groups available in later content, especially if you're in a time zone not favorable to the playerbase.
2. Some content is really fucked up, and your class may even be useless for certain bosses.

For instance Belly of the Whale dungeon is super cancerous and relies on other people also being in need of it, which usually isn't likely. Even if you do find a group, it's such a shit dungeon that even with a decent random group, you guys fail to do the boss.

Then there's Cire Momore, a dungeon that Cras pretty much cannot do, where you cannot brute force with group size, and is a very endgame dungeon usually only done to progress Sylvan Dofus.
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>>1500187
>>1500195
Some people also like to get passeurs for early content just as a means to get quick and easy exp from achievements. A level 200 doing all 1-100 dgs and achievements for a person and the dungeon quest lines.
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Are Srams still good?
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>>1500197
Ask again in a month
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>>1500195
>Muh "you can do all content with every class"
did i get lied to?
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>>1500207
Yes. Prepare to pay, slut.
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>>1500207
Probably, there's some weird people who refuse to acknowledge things like class disparity in this game, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is, Dofus is far from a perfect game.
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>>1500207

You actually can, there are clears of some of the hardest dungeons with only "common" spells, which are available to all classes.
And class spells are pretty much always stronger.
Almost always its a skill issue or gear issue if you can't beat something, I'd say most of the time it is the former.
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>>1500207
did you think you could solo end game dungeons with every class?
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>>1500207
No you weren't. There are a lot of fags coping due to skill issues in this thread claiming the dumbest shit. I mean he's pretending Cire Momore can't be done as Cra because you can only hit him by being 2 tiles from him. As if Cra had 3 or more min-range on all their skills.
Some classes are indeed better at certain scenarios than others. Doesn't mean you will be useless but sometimes you have to think outside the box and adapt or in the absolute worst possible cases grab a new set for another element or play style. Also just remember one thing, positioning is king in this game and not damage.
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>>1500207
That anon exaggerates a bit, belly of the whale is a gimmicky fest that filters retards that can't read but it's doable with any class and after Cra's nerf(buff) they can also do cire more now
The only content that I can see as "Impossible with X class" would be some gimmicky solo fights for the ebony dofus but they are buffing everything in the beta so I bet they can clear now
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>>1500240
Post your Cra in Cire Momore faggot. Cire isn't a range issue.
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>>1500240
>>1500241
Post Whale and Cire clears right now.
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>>1500228
BASED Volcasaurus connoisseur.
IGNORE fags itt.
Listen to the GOAT who said CLASSES DO NOT matter and proceeded to BTFO every single crybaby especially Xelors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC086PMh9E8
>B-but he used giga optimized gear
If you think this copes for NOT USING CLASS SPELLS I'd suggest you renew that FFXIV subscription.
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>>1500260
>Bro Cire is so hard
>No mobs
>Hit him at 2 range and fuck off
>Heal
>Win
Holy shit this is the people explaining you some classes are unplayable. The absolute state of this thread.
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It's probably asked a lot due to the 3.0 servers coming out, I am in no way as good 99% of the people in this thread, but I've been looking at Foggernauts and they look pretty cool.
How good are they on dungeons and 1-100? Endgame information is appreciated but I might not even make it there so who knows.
I am just looking something that has summons, is viable/fun (I know this is subjective) and good at whatever it is doing.
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>>1500281
Everything is viable my nigga. Do you vibe with the class after looking at it and reading the spells? Pick it. This is the only thing that will matter in the long run. You will be better than half this thread in no time just being self-aware do not worry.
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>bought a 7 day to fuck around and test classes on beta
>turns out an hour ago they bricked character creation
I WANT A REFUND
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The same retard who's saying everything is viable is gonna go on a diatribe about how his poor Xelor got nerfed to oblivion, but you say any other class is bad you'll get hit with a "b-but your just bad".
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>>1500274
Waiting for that Cire run
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Cope more faggots. Git gud.
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>>1500302
oh so it's not just me, i was wondering if i client was broken
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>>1500268
>this one turboautist could do it after 10000 tries so you can too!!
Retard
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>>1500281

Just as >>1500283 has said, you can play anything especially in pvm. Foggernauts are very good in pvm as they have access to not only solid damage but also they got utility such as heals/shields/positioning allowing them to be enablers if they need to be.

Low level dungeons are not really all that complicated, especially if you go in with the recommended 4 players team size.
And if you decide that you picked wrong, you can always put your gear in the bank or sell it and make a new char, this char will get x2 exp till it catches up with your main.
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>>1500325
Still less tries than your retarded ass who paid to switch class for those dungeons lmaooo
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Still waiting for footage of your clears, nigger.
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Reminder to ignore the turboshill who dismisses all class balance discussion as "skill issue".
He unironically believes that the game is so easy you can solo everything in the game without using a single class spell, which would make the game so insanely boring that nobody would be playing it in the first place.
Don't bother asking for proof, you won't get it.
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>>1499469
Yeah I noticed it at the start, this is ass.

Overall unity is a huge downgrade on the art part. Everything is fucking flat on the interface, classes looks very similar too, they lost a shit ton of detail, everything is smooth I hate it so much. And let's not talk about the dumb idle boxing stance.

People complained so much on french twitter at the start of the beta that they had some random UI designer improve all their shit. Ankama apparently hired him but whatever they decide to implement won't be in the game for a while.
pic is his take on the speech bubble thing for example. But it's insane to me how a random guy in one day is able to easily grasp what dofus art is suppose to look like, in term of shape color and all, while ankama worked on that shit for month/years and produce the blandest shit ever.
This is him again for something as simple as a "play" button https://x.com/eternarisdesign/status/1826972444864753837
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Fact is if you don't play the top 8 classes you're going to be left behind and bullied from group finding. Then you'll have to be carried like a useless tool.

This is the fate of all non metafag contrarians
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>>1500348
Didn't he post proof already?
Also nice samefagging
>>1500268
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>>1500350
Maybe it's just me but putting portraits in the speech bubble does not make sense since they're not unique pieces of art, they're just the same model you see in the map.
It's like putting a clock widget on your desktop when you already have one.
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>>1500353
Proof from HIM, not some frog autismo lord who plays 30 hours a day.
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My guild will kick all schizos and dramafags
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>>1500257
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ0ZQ57GaiY
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>>1500353
That isn't proof of him doing every dungeon in the game solo with no class spells, it's not even proof of someone else doing it.
The fact is even if it's possible it's not a viable option to retry every fight 500 times for people who aren't done with the game twice over already.
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>>1500353
No sorry bro you've to got beat solo a boss that you can't access without a long ass questline and not accessible in beta to prove it. Too convenient? Too bad.
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>>1500345
I never claimed I was good or bad at the game. That is not the point. The point is your argument is retarded. The game being "technically" beatable by "any class" just because 1 in who knows how many people did so is stupid beyond belief.
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>>1500360
>he posts proof of his claims
>somehow it doesn't count because he didn't do it himself
Ok, do you have ANY proof of the game being impossible with a specific class aside of talking out of your ass?
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>>1500363
>Getting carried
Pfft ahahaha haha
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is there a good ressource somwhere for decent gear seats based on class? what's considered bis to know what to aim for etc and maybe some of the important gearpieces to grab while levelling?
Seems like limbo staff is a big one for cra at least but apart from random french reddit threads can't say i'm getting much.
Game seems to have a shit ton of gear pieces as well
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>>1500350
Iteration A looks great, and they already have all the sprites ready so I have no clue why the fuck would they take it all out
Part 1 of beta really was terrible, at least they seem to have fixed the boxing stances and made each class feel more distinct. Wouldn't surprise me if that same guy had a hand on it
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>>1500371
Early game doesn't matter
In the new servers you will literally be looking for any piece of gear you can find because there is simply no economy. There is no pick and choose there are only beggars seeking scraps from people offloading previous gear.
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>>1500371
https://huzounet.fr/equipments?mode=pvm
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>>1500371
So in the beta pretty much all gear in the game has been changed so there actually aren't any resources like this anymore, will have to wait until some autists redo it
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>>1500366
The point is that this guy is literally the undisputed GOAT of PvM. He gets asked all the time "what should I play" and made a video about it explaining that player skill expression with a class you truly like will always lead to better results than going for what's "meta" or popular. However because he's the GOAT and giga based he proved it by the most insane way possible and channeled the power of German Autism to BTFO all the naysayers.
Hope that clears things up.
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>>1500372
They didn't really fix it. It's still there.
Apparently all their new animations are built with the boxing stance as start and end of all new animations. So you get the class specific stance when it'sn ot your turn, but when you start using spells you go back to the boxing stance
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>>1500382
>multiboxing autistic with 20000 hours in the game
how does this apply to mono servers and new players exactly?
imagine baiting people into playing the shittiest classes just because if you multibox and know every single thing about the game it's easy
you're operating under the assumption that everyone who plays has speed run tranny levels of autism and is okay with resetting over and over for the perfect run in a game about quickly and efficiently clearing things... sometimes the fun comes from your character being overpowered, not struggling because you picked a worse one in the name of "fun"

let's not even get into some classes being significantly less useful in mono servers because of how you're not playing with the same team every time
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Ban all Xelor players
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>>1500398
Don't they ave it bad enough already?
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Fact 1
>Some classes are better than others in pve.
Fact 2
>Despite fact 1, Every class can do every content in the game easily
Fact 3
>It's a team game
Play with the strength of your team and build a strategy around it.
Strategy doesn't matter for like the first 160 lvl, after that, you should know your class enough to be able to build a strategy.
Otherwise, pick a Top 5/6 pvm class if you want to clear the game by following premade strat, but at this point why even play this game, it's a tactical.
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>>1500390
It's pretty simple. If you play a character you like then you will be motivated to learn the ins and outs and become a true master.

If you are not driven by passion you will never achieve greatness.

There are no bad classes in this game. Only scenarios where some are better and some have to adapt.

Just the fact that your initial argument was about Cra and Cire Momore truly shows it. Aren't they allegedly the "best PvM class in the game"? Well even them have to adapt.

I will forever be here to remind everyone that this is the case. Like it or not.
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Are these schizos going to be in the guild too? God help
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>Noooo stop talking about the game
>Here is me contributing to the thread by calling you a schizo
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>>1500409
like it or not I'm not the only person calling your logic completely retarded and I've said nothing about cra.
but enjoy your delusions.
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>>1500415
Enjoy playing your "meta" class and still being terrible at the game because you don't use your brain. I'll have no issue clearing it with my "sub-optimal" one and farm your ass in kolo.
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>>1500412
Unlikely, schizos usually multibox because nobody wants to play with them.
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>>1500406
Not easily
They can, but not easily.
And you technically only need to do content 1-2x times to progress the questlines unless you really want to do the autism-achievements.
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>Enjoy playing your "meta" class and still being terrible at the game because you don't use your brain. I'll have no issue clearing it with my "sub-optimal" one

Literally me.
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>>1500382
>not a french player
doesn't count
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>>1500383
Damn that sucks. Surely they'll fix the animations within a few months, right? It's their big game after all.
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>tfw you have a 100% winrate in PvP while using no class spells and no gear because your iq is simply so much higher
feels good man
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>>1500437
*Kills you with a BM freedom against a wall*
Heh noting personal kid
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it's time to d-d-d-duel!!
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At least we can all agree that PVP keks ruined this game
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>>1500445
No
Ankama are just retards that don't know how how to manage Dofus to the best of their ability
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>>1500448
I accept your concession
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newfag cra here, can i level cra going int from the start or is it too painful?
i've seen people usually recommend air all the way through and switch to omni at max level, or at least very high, but int supposedly becomes better starting from 105.
Needless to say i have no fucking clue, i'm trying to find some info on the class and spells
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>>1500445
mostly ankamas fault for not fixing their game by separating PvP and PvE balance, at some point you can't even blame PvP fags anymore
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>>1500453
literally do whatever, you can freely respec, you unlock all skills, only thing that matters is gear + what skills you have accessible
earth>fire>water>air tends to be the most damaging elements but the gains are marginal and at the cost of range or some quality of life or side effects

it's only at later levels when you have several skills, and your gear costs a lot more that you need to care more about what your build is besides "imma just grab and use whatever i can" until level 80
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>>1500445
I don't think you appreciate how important PvP fags are for the economy. It's Ankama's fault for not making the sensible choice of balancing spells for PvP and PvM separately.
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>>1500456
i though erosion mechanics where the main pvp thing
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>>1500383
They made some redesigns to lot of classes already
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>>1500462
>This standing pose
mfw, why didn't they just port the art and upscale it or some shit.
It's litteraly one of the only things that game has going for it
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>>1500465
iirc they wanted to make new models because previously they had to make each asset fit every class and check for clipping, which meant it took forever as they had to literally inspect 19 classes
so they decided to standardize player models and split up cosmetics into further pieces + they wanted animation and old art wasn't designed to be constantly animated
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>>1500465
they already said they're going to give every class standing poses just like they did idle combat poses, shit takes time
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>>1500453
Everything you need to know for that matter is here :
https://www.dofus.com/en/mmorpg/encyclopedia/classes/9-cra
Air is definitely the best. Just have a look at the spells. Range steal, attraction, pushback, life steal and great single target damage. All of that really early into the game (except life steal).
Fire is nice if you're really into farming but it's AoE only and does friendly fire so it can be annoying in group content.
Earth is satisfying to play but I'd recommend waiting for Destructive Bolt (level 155) but even then Air is probably still superior for leveling.
Water is a meme. Water+Earth is viable and a pretty fun way to play Cra however which could be done with a set like Ancestral while pumping STR (it gives more Chance than Strength but Earth is still your main damage source).
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>>1500465
They are retarded and just started work on Unity three years ago even when it was announced like five or six years ago. They had only really initial feedback and didn't even try to make more polls or something
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>>1500453
>Needless to say i have no fucking clue, i'm trying to find some info on the class and spells
Go on the main website, click Game then click Classes in that menu, then click on the class which interests you.
You will get most of the basic info like unlock level for each rank, which element a spell is etc.
>can i level cra going int from the start or is it too painful?
You could, however it will be much easier to start with agi or cha because you get your second spell sooner. Agi also has some gear early on that makes gearing it very easy compared to other elements like the Mad Tofu Cloak.
>i've seen people usually recommend air all the way through and switch to omni at max level, or at least very high, but int supposedly becomes better starting from 105.
Kinda outdated as spell rank unlocks have shifted since this info was up-to-date.
Also this kind of gear progression will work only on the old servers, because the gear is there on the market, you don't have to do all the dungeons to get specific mats.
Int cras get better in mid game as they get a power spike at 125 when they unlock Assailing Arrow. At this point you have 4 different int spells at your disposal.
But yea, int is the best at AoE, omni builds are pretty much only viable at endgame so don't worry about it as you won't see it for months to come especially if you plan to play on new mono servers.

>>1500461
yea, to counter healing, but you can also apply it to mobs that heal in pvm so they can't heal forever. But that is not that common.
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>>1500479
mad tofu cloak got nerfed, the changes made the differences between gear at the start much less.
how is this post spam?
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>>1500483
ok you're right I missed that change. In that case I guess spell order unlock plays the main role.
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>>1500477
Retro Ocra is peak soul and coom.
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is eni the quintessensial pvp fag class?
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>>1500497
It's good-mandatory for multi PvP, not really 1v1 though.
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You are a disgusting newfag tourist
I am an epic oldfag veteran player
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>>1500497
Meh in 1v1
Good in 2v2/3v3
Mandatory in 5v5
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80% of you guys will be filtered anyways
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>>1500508
make it 79% then, I quit
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What the fuck does this mean? Why should In get excited for this?
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>>1500511
you get a pat on the back for being part of the heckin wholesome community
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>>1500508
>stating the obvious
majority of games lose more than that over a month
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I'll be playing hupper because hupper girls are the hottest
Simple as
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>>1500517
based and waifu pilled
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Dofus will thrive and reach 1 gorillion players. Trust the plan.
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>>1500545
Dofus is too difficult and slow paced for zoomers
Once every 25-40 year olds who play this game leaves, it'll finally die
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Do i need to preregister or can i just hop on the designated /vm/ server on day one?
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>>1500582
You can make a new character on day one.
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>>1500517
ill play ougi because women love dogs
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Reminder that if you play as a male char you are GAY
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she's literally me
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>>1500583
Won't servers be overloaded on day one?
At least that's why I assume you have to pick one to preregisters, to save your place in line?
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>>1500654
You preregister to save your name. The release of the unity beta was a bit wonky but the login servers were a lot more stable than what people remember
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I wanna try the beta as a new player to pick my class. How do i go about it?
I don't think unlocking 200lvl and reading/testing the skills is a good idea when i don't know combos, how to play, or gameplay at lower levels...
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Masq women got the biggest tits
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>Panda and Iop getting buffs in beta
LMFAO, can't make this shit up
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>>1500465
Are you retarded? Dofus 2.0 art is absolute dogshit. If you think Dofus 2.0 character sprites are even passable you have no standards.
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>>1500742
the french aren't going to be happy with this post when they wake up
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>>1500743
I can't find it currently but there was a devblog where Ankama showed how emotes break character sprites and it's so very bad, so so bad. A game releasing with that art would instantly bomb.
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>>1500707
Source?
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>>1500750
The overall look and feel of Dofus was the main reason I've avoided it for years, everything about it looked terrible and/or boring, tactical mode was basically necessary to play the game and it was completely soulless, I'm glad they came up with a solution that manages to retain the qol from tactical mode and the visuals of the world.
Characters and the world finally being nicely animated really pulls it all together, it actually looks like a proper game now.
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>>1500765
You are a filthy newfag tourist and you will be filtered.
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>>1500783
Nope, I'm unfilterable, no amount of MMO bullshit can get to me, I've seen it all.
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>>1500783
Even if he is plenty of friends I have despite being interested and wanting to play it have been completely filtered by the visuals (and needing to move around the world map tile by map tile) despite liking the rest of the gameplay and even playing plenty of wakfu.
So I don't believe what hes saying is some unheard of super minor opinion, I like the look of the game, but it definitely has a lot of rough edges and less than stellar visuals despite the overall look being amazing.
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>>1500750
Emotes break sprites with the new art too so nothing changed in the end
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dofus 2 is worse than wakfu and the clique won't change my mind
i'm super happy that unity is improving a lot of the shit parts (unfortunately maging stayed)
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>>1500818
>needing to move around the world map tile by map tile
Yeah that's a big one. I tried Dofus with the group I played Wakfu with, and it almost instantly filtered the lot of us.
Didn't help that we tried Dofus because we were fucking sick of Ankama mishandling Wakfu but it is what it is.
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>>1500844
Wakfu did a lot of things better, but also countless completely retarded things. Why they even have multiple MMOs is beyond me.

>>1500848
Thank fuck you can just click the map to auto move from the start now.
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>>1500703

First you need to buy a sub to access beta, even 1 week would be enough.
Then you create ur char, as you log in you exit the temple there is a potion on the ground that gives u access to the shop zone - it is an infinite consumable.
In that zone you can buy every item in the game pretty much, but since you want to learn you should probably buy one 50 level scroll then purchase gear for lvl 50 (talk to the portal npc to get to the right shop zone, talk to the pile of kamas to get 50 mil kamas)
After that come back to the first map of beta zone and go to bottom right to move to portals, and choose either bonta/brakmar or amakna. Remember to grab zaaps as you pass near them so you can get back to places you've been.
Then you can pretty much try playing the game normally, so as you are solo try hitting mobs of 1-2 monsters at a time that are near to your level.
You can also do this on lvl 100 or 150 because u can use up to 4x 50 level scrolls.
Or you can even start at level 1, just buy some basic gear because market is dead on beta so dont waste time farming for gear and crafting it here.
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1500909
Kill yourself /vm/ PvP schizo
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>>1500796
>I've seen it all
You haven't. Dofus is very unique. Fair chances you don't even know what an actual quest is like. We ALL end up thinking "there is no way I have to do all this" at one point.
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>Xelor massively buffed again
>"B-but Ankama hates my class?!"
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>Xelor massively buffed again
>It's still bad because of gravity
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>You LITERALLY can't hit something if it's under gravity as Xelor
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>>1500909
And that's a good thing. It's not healthy to play a single game for over a month.
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>>1500742
You must be baiting right?
The new art direction feels bland. We’ve unironically sacrificed soul for uniformity to make dev work easier. Shadows, edges, and volumes have all been flattened, with smooth, edgeless shapes and muted colors. Every character model looks the same, with standard body types, oversized heads, and thin legs like antennae.
This guy made an actual explanation as why everything looks like that now with the new style (it's in english) https://www.dofus.com/en/forum/1191-general/343559-dofus-unity-beautiful-eyesore?page=1 it's a pretty good read.
If there's one thing to take from it it would be this part

>>1500765
While I agree that the new maps are a visual improvement, they also feel like a step backward because maps are now instanced. It was more immersive to fight exactly where you started, with the map’s actual layout, if there were houses, for example, they’d appear in the fight and could even be used as cover.
Now, when a fight begins, you’re teleported to one of about four pre-made maps per area, which are usually very symmetrical with oddly “perfect” obstacle placements. And it just feels weird.
The issue with these new designs, whether it’s characters, maps, or even class reworks, is that everything feels calculated, like it was planned out on a spreadsheet by people focused on maximizing ROI. The new philosophy seems to be about standardizing and minimizing wherever possible.

>>1500750
This isn't an art problem, it was a flash technical issue, basically they can't really "move" the flash models, so any kind of animation or emote require them to do some workaround, and it's clunky on a lot of aspect.
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So I guess it flopped, see you in 2027 for the brand new monocompte servers with the big overhaul patch.
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>server 2 is full

its over.. i wont get to play with english people

why are the french so brown?
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>>1501061
>He thinks not every single server will be full of French
Bitch we run this shit
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>>1501067
That's the problem, I remember when ankama segregated away the stinky french, so we had an exclusive english server, a br server, and other servers free of the french
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>>1501071
That wasn't sustainable thus why it went from that to international servers. Anyway you'll be fine, there are always communities for Spanish or English speaking players. Frenches are notoriously bad at English but some like me do prefer playing with international guilds.
By the way you'll be able to create a character on Dakal 2 even if it's full at release.
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>>1501025
About "immersion" in maps, it's a moot point since you'd be teleported into the literal void on flash, you retain the map layout but you can't actually see the map, unless you're an actual freak who didn't use tactical mode (nobody did this), there is no immersion to be had.
But in dungeons you aren't teleported to a different map, and I don't really care about overworld maps being more limited, it ends up being better for gameplay since the old maps weren't exactly designed with combat in mind, having some weird layout where half the screen is empty isn't that interesting.

Also the game looks better than ever and you really can't change anyone's mind on that, the game will have a lot more new players because the ugly look of the game was a big deterrent, it wasn't possible to convince anyone to bother giving it a chance because it looked like a prehistoric flash game, nobody took it seriously.
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Did they really need an orchestra to rerecord every single BGM?
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Who's everyone's favorite npc? For me it would probably be Otomai and Brumaire
I used to hate Otomai because he felt like a Mary Sue but nowadays with all the powercreep and the way he's portrayed in shows it really softened my impression of him
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I WANT TO PLAY HOW LONG DO I NEED TO WAIT I WANT TO MAKE MY ROGUE AND QUEST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>1501125
That one Osa in Incarnam that belittles you and then you had to fight against to get the starting set cape, raping his ass always was the best feeling whenever I made a new character
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>>1501120
>Also the game looks better than ever and you really can't change anyone's mind on that
The thing is that you're wrong here.
This has been the number 1 complain people had (according to the dev itself). They don't like the new design, their character suddenly are ugly and most people hate it. The new design are also objectively flawed on a lot of aspect. The new look won't bring new player because now it looks like any random bland mobile game. There's no unique direction anymore.
The issue isn't about higher quality, they could've kept the same style and upgrade the old flash, but instead they went with a new art direction, and people hate it and rightfully find it ugly.
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>>1501169
>>1501120
>you retain the map layout but you can't actually see the map, unless you're an actual freak who didn't use tactical mode (nobody did this),
this was an art issue, they could've fix it (they did for the dungeon map), but they just didn't want to redo all the map in the game. It's just lazyness. Again it's just worse but for the sake of standardization, they do it.
>it ends up being better for gameplay since the old maps weren't exactly designed with combat in mind
God you're a fucking npc. An excel player, if you could remove all the UI and just keep the numbers you would be the happiest.
The odd map were better for gameplay exactly because they require you to adapt and allowed you to create interesting strategy based on the map.
Standardized map is the death of strategy because handling the map is literally the 101 of tactics.
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>>1501025
If you think pic related looks better than unity you are completely retarded. Like actual eating feces-and-paying-for-it retarded.

And regarding the shadows in 2.0. They are painted on and become completely nonsensical when the character moves or is in light/dark spaces. If you think painted on shadows are good you are completely retarded.

I have nostalgia for Dofus (1.29 and 2.0) and even I can admit 2.0 looks like shit compared to any other game production out there.
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>>1501205
What kind of shit eating retard would think the new sram looks better than the old.
Like how braindamage do you have to be? It's the same shit on all the other class too
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>>1501217
Unity looks way better, animates way better too
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So apparently the demo for Savara's been out for like 10 days? Anyone tried it?
https://x.com/DoryahGames/status/1853426057887490514
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>the game looks better than ever
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>>1501222
AM I supposed to know what that is?
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>>1501248
Hades but with a Iop girl. Kinda slow and lackluster and visually bland
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>>1501263
Classic Ankama strategy of making games no one cares about or asked for
Hope one day they achieve whatever they're going for
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>>1501217
Those Unity sprites are outdated and no longer in the game shitposter.
Meanwhile D2 had half the female faces in permanent horny mode, if you're a coomer that's cool I guess but it's just creepy to me.
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So Sadidas got reworked nerfed and then buffed again or something right?
Are they in a good place now? Thinking of trying one on unity
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>>1501293
>Meanwhile D2 had half the female faces in permanent horny mode
Now I hate Unity even more
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>>1500412
The guild is ran by a schizo...
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>>1501306
They are top tier, maybe top 5 for PvM
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>>1501310
Unity increased the cup size of every female character. God 2.0-tards are so dishonest.
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>>1501333
They're incels so they need easy women who are horny 24/7 to have a chance.
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>>1501354
You're not an incel because you appreciate sex appeal, you're just no an eunuch
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>>1501354
Put the fries in the bag, bozo
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Loopito... please come back ;_;
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Sram got a ton of damage amp in beta, might be a good team player now instead of just being 1v1 cheese.
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>>1501293
You will never be a woman
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>>1501398
Yeah ignore Duny, he's literally autistic nobody actually cares what he has to say.

Come back Loop
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>>1501457
>you can make better classes deal even more damage
oh yeah, exactly what I want from my glass cannon assassin class
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Oh shit you can just ctrl+click anywhere on the map now to auto travel? Don't even need to have a mount on? Fucking game changer
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>>1501527
It's a 1.21x multiplier on your own burst turns too, retard
>Why does the assassin class debuff??!?!?!?
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a xelor joined me for my newfag dungeon run and i have no fucking clue what that class does
is it against etiquette to aoe down their accomplices or whatever? they were always in the way
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>>1501535
I don't want to play if my main job is to be a debuff cuck rather than damage king.
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>>1501631
>3ap = whole turn
Ok
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I just wanted adventure and tofu spamming. What went wrong bros..
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>>1501672
Just play Touch or Retro bro. Unity hype won't even last that long.
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Current year
I am forgotten
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>>1501855
ougis are good though
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>Ougis have a niche in melee teams in dreams content
>Instantly gutted to being useless
>Cra and Panda dominate 90% of PvM content for 10+ years
>Get buffed in unity
LOL
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>>1502114
>Ougis are not allowed to have a niche
do you think the class was made entirely for the sake of this exact pun?
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Ougis have been buffed for weeks now. They are pretty decent now in PvM and still amazing in PvP. I don't really know what you guys are talking about
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is there anywhere I can see the updated spell list for unity without having to pay a sub for the beta?
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>>1502241
isn't there some updates announced for 3.0 but aren't on the beta as well?
an actual spell list for 3.0 would be great
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>>1501223
Outdated picture, characters are better proportioned and the items have more detail now, and if you want characters to look good in unity you can't design them the same way as you did in flash which is why they look stupid when they're ported over without any changes.
Just look here, a lot of great looking characters made in unity: https://barbofus.com/unity-skins

>inb4 incoherent rambling about why they actually look like shit and my old unanimated .PNG character looks better
I would say that only a couple of the unity characters don't look better, and even those are worth the tradeoff of getting better and smoother animations, idle animations.
The customization is only going to get better too as they release full fledged outfits and not only items that get slapped over your base outfit, more faces, hairs, alternate base outfits etc, this is all in the pipeline if you've been paying attention.
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>>1502312
My png had soul and was with me for 20 years and I have autism.
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Sadida is completely broken now wtf
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I'm a new player and I got an important question
Which class has the hottest girls?
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>>1502428
sram girls
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>>1502428
all of them
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>>1502428
I'm not even surprised I immediatly found a pre-existing tierlist for it
Sacrier, Foggernaut and Sadida my beloved
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>>1502447
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>>1502455
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>>1502458
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>>1502312
cute
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>>1502461
IG screenshot or did you use a website? I wouldn't mind prepping my colors early
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>>1502463
it's from the link in the post i replied to
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>>1502464
my bad, I didn't bother reading his ramblings
thanks
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>>1502455
SEX

>>1502458
SEX

>>1502459
SEX
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>>1502447
Elio girls are cute though
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>>1502455
>Empty white eyes are back
Based
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>>1502459
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>>1502447
>humans A/S
>everything else lower
coward taste
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>>1502548
>humans A/S
>Sadida in S
>Pandawa in A
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>>1502548
>human A/S
all classes on dofus are humans.
you fucking tourist loser.
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>>1502603
elio are not humans lorelet
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Aren't we all Mondo inside?
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>>1502603
You’re in an English speaking ankama thread we’re all losers
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>>1502674
We're not french
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Makes me feel for dads in real life. The female art direction is weird as hell.
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>>1502832
you're weird
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what's the best pvp class?
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>>1502894
Sadida
maybe not anymore
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Even with the best gear at lv50 Dofus doing same level content, the game pushes you towards kiting to minimize damage taken.
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>>1503112
>game rewards you for taking the least amount of damage possible and not dying
wow man, that's crazy
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What's a good DPT at level 200 to aim for? Without external buffs.
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>>1503112
Ankama will never balance their games in a way that makes sense, fixing this would be as simple as adding some resists into lower level gear instead of only offensive stats.
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>>1503112
You can stay in melee and take no damage with lifesteal
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>>1503234
Enjoy erosion
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>>1503192
Enough to 2-turn endgame mobs
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>>1503234
you take erosion and you're not fully healing off lifesteal at lvl 50, if you even have a lifesteal spell at that point
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>>1503235
No mobs will erode you hard at level 50. And when you encounter big erosion you can circumvent it by applying flat shields.

Also the shield changes will benefit tank classes and nerf glass cannons which is good.
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>>1503236
which is?
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>>1503242
Around 3k after resistances
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How does fashion work in Dofus?
There's cosmetic items that can be obtained from various places I assume? When checking them out, is there a way to tell if they're actually obtainable and not some legacy newsletter reward from 10 years ago?
You can also turn any regular item into appearance right, but how to do that and how much does it cost?
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>>1503314
Best you can do is check out the cosmetics marketplace and see if it’s for sale. Lots of the cosmetic sets are limited time bonuses for subbing that players then sell for kamas on the market.

You can turn any regular item into a cosmetic skin with an item from the shop. Or you can buy it with kamas from someone reselling it ingame. The equip you turn into a skin will be destroyed. It costs like 2-3EUR for 1 of these items, so I would just buy them for ingame kamas instead.
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>>1503314
most of the valuable ones are paid shop locked unless you think ahead of time when doing your colors, but Dofus also lets you buy cash shop items with ingame money, but the rate is dependent on people selling the paid currency
you have two types of cosmetic items, "mimibiotes" which are the ones that let you give the appearance of an item to another item
and you have "colorivants" items that have appearances of popular items but they will match your character's color AND they can be slapped on another items
poor man's method is that you can make premade equipment slots, you get your hands on the cool hats and capes you make a cosmetic and a fighting slot and you swap between each others
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>>1503314
This part of the game is getting an upgrade in Unity, cosmetics will have their own inventory that will be server wide so you can use the same hat, cape etc. on multiple chars/sets on the same account (but only on that one server).

>There's cosmetic items that can be obtained from various places I assume? When checking them out, is there a way to tell if they're actually obtainable and not some legacy newsletter reward from 10 years ago?
Just as others have said most items are cash shop items, where they do a limited run and after a while they might return again. If someone bought these items there is 180 days before they can be sold on the market, so if you like some cosmetics you can either buy it as its released or wait half a year to buy it later with kamas. There are shields you get for clearing a dungeon on "dungeon rusher" events - these are account bound. There is also other event cosmetics like the ones in 15th/20th anniversary events but these events have ended and you wont see these cosmetics on new servers. There are a few craftable recipes too, but they aren't that great. Some cosmetics are rewards for being subscribed for a time like every 3 months you get a new one - but luckily they don't look amazing.

>You can also turn any regular item into appearance right, but how to do that and how much does it cost?
It costs 1 Mimisymbic (2400 ogrines) and with Unity this is getting an upgrade too, as the appearance will work as a skin that u own on your account, meaning it works like other cosmetics - server wide, can be used on many different items of the same type.
You have to sacrifice an item to get its appearance this way.
Ogrines are the premium currency and they vary in price (big packs are cheaper) so ur best bet is to see in store for yourself how much 2400 is for you.
But Mimisymbics are also things you can eventually buy for kamas as they become tradeable after a while, just as pretty much anything you get from the store.
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>>1501398
>>1501501
Just don't let the paranoiac pessimistic homosexual leftist redditor create the guild and I'll join it. See you on Dakal 2 in any case.
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>>1503568
Faggot
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>>1503552
2005...
Home...
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>>1503573
>Bro just bend the knee to the least suitable faggot to be a leader for a 4chan guild
Don't think I will. I ain't a little bitch like (You).
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Is this the supposed guild leader? Some dude avatarfagging with cat pics?
Fucking hell, why is it so hard to just get normal people to play with in this fucking website
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Err wait Duny is a leftist? Dropped.
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Why does no one ever talk about dofus story?
You guys read the quests dialogue, right?
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>>1503632
I do, I also read all the dofus related mangas AND the little stories they used to publish in the magazine, there was those two adventurers/investigators where one was a xelor and the other was a sramette, that was good stuff
I haven't played since the eliocalipse so I don't know anything lorewise that happened after
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>>1503632
>>1503639
Over 10 years playing this game and I never managed to read through the entire dialogue of a single npc
I heard the Frigost questline is kino though so maybe I'll put some effort into reading it this time around
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>>1503632
Yeah, collect the eggs n shit right? Love dat shit
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>>1503663
I'm not a good judge on that because I picked up dofus I was like 7 and basically all of my vocabulary is out of me trying to understand the puns from the game
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>>1503587
>expecting normalcy from a 4chan guild
it's not that bad but still, weird expectation to have
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>>1502459
damn they really fucked up feet in unity, can't even see toes and toenails now...
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>>1503587
No, that's the guy he btfo'd
Hence the seethe
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>Btfo'd
>Seething
Nah I just hate this condescending (yet massive loser) faggot. I was fine just spitting on him but he had to mute me because he's a little bitch. Why would I keep associating with anything that gives this disgusting animal power over me? There are a bunch of cool lads in the guild so that sucks but it is what it is. If they don't care about putting an unhinged schizo in charge so be it. I'm not stuck playing with this thread because I speak French anyway.
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>Make pre registration goals
>Also cap the maximum amount of pre registrations making those goals unachievable
Interesting choice
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>>1503899
Ankama moment
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we're not gonna make it are we bros
dofus unity doesn't feel optimized enough, buggy
and apparently has a memory leak
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>>1503917
We got 2 weeks bro, we gotta BELIEVE
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>>1503917
lmao have you played the flash version?

>>1503899
They'll add more servers or increase the slots, they keep doing this
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zamn tons of gear is droppable 60 and below
but after that lmao have fun getting geared
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Beware when picking your class because how they play changes dramatically from 1-50-100-150-200.

level 50 is fairly easy to reach, and by 60-80 is when people start to get filtered by increasing difficult in gearing, content and experience
level 100 is when a class gets enough spells to make a judgement call on their gameplay and class identity
a ton of strong spells are actually locked above level 150
for instance Strength Panda sucks without Filthipint (155) and Pandatak (175), because before that, they lack any high AP, high damage AoE Strength abilities

200 is their full potential, but most people won't reach it if they drop the game before then
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>>1504105
What's the QRD on the profession grind? How cancerous is it typically and on fresh servers like this? I fear it's going to be fucking impossible on launch because of the way the resources work and the sheer levels of competition for them.
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>>1504120
It's going to be impossible. Most people will use dropped gear up to level 100.
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>>1503917
>dofus unity doesn't feel optimized enough, buggy
>and apparently has a memory leak
they really did a great job porting dofus 2 then lmao
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1 client btw
game nearly crashed just now, the pauses are getting worse, my cursor had a "spinning blue circle of loading something"
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>>1504120
don't bother, it'll be easy to find people willing to craft your items for free if you have the ressources because they want to level up the job
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if you play a low damage class you're unironically a beta
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>>1504151
I don't think there's any real low damage classes in dofus anymore
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>>1504155
lol you clearly don't play dofus (laugh at this retard!)
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>>1504160
I stopped playing back when spam cac was the meta
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>>1504145
hhhhmmmm
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>>1504163
you're memory leaked, restart your game
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>>1504136
>>1504148
Tragic. Thanks for the realistic breakdown lads.
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>>1504173
Leveling up gathering will be hard, but nothing is stopping you from being one of those people sitting next to the crafting benches and leveling up their profession by having other people craft stuff for free
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>>1504163
>>1504165
uh oh!!
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>>1504105
I want to play a mask nigga
What am I in for?
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>>1504181
It's not that flashy or fun desu
It's damage is okay if you play melee, but it's distance is poor until you get over lv100. The class suffers from more spell segregation because of Elements and then Masks
Intrepid Mask is free though, so it's not as bad as some people think. But it can be annoying sometimes.

Cowards Mask + Martelo (lv105) and Apathy are crazy good. Range modifiable -MP Strength spells with a splash of AoE.
The most useful ranged Water spell is locked at 165

Class is more melee oriented, with /some/ ranged options in every element that deals lesser damage.
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>>1504188
And of course the main strength of the class is
>Shields
It's more of a support class that can do damage, a weird combination.
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>>1504188
>>1504190
Masq does insane single target damage when it wants though. Probably highest or second highest melee damage in the game.
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>>1504194
Hahahaha fuck no.
Iop, Ougi, Sacrier all deal more.
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Masque definitely feels like a duo element class though. Mono is too restrictive. Getting Furia+Inferno for double damage buffs looks nice.
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>>1504196
Masq does more with buffs up and a weapon.
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>>1504203
Post build, chud.
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I love the recent trend of making betas a month before set in stone release dates so that it's too late to change the big issues.
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>>1503899
>all monoacc servers but one are full
>multiacc servers still have lots of slots left
>ankama keeps catering to those retards
Truly a retarded company. Also there has been lots of bugs in the beta, I don't know how they can fix all of this in just two weeks
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>>1504222
They are actually fixing bugs surprisingly quickly.
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>>1504216
the beta has been ongoing for three months or so
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>>1504232
Yeah but overall, the beta feels kind of shitty. I end up reinstalling the game and it seems it fixed some of the stuttering issues but still, the UI is a complete issue itself, there are some bugged animations, weird bugs with sprites and the timer seems to run too fast
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>>1504188
>>1504190
What's the most complicated class that fulfills the role of a tank in this game?
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>>1504264
Panda
It's the de-facto 'Tank' in Dofus because it has the most utility and it has perfect positioning because it can LITERALLY FUCKING PICK UP AND DROP BOSSES
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>>1504264
>>1504266
Elio tank actually

technically you can tank with any class
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>>1504264
Panda is the overall best tank. Feca has more mitigation while tanking and sacrier has more self mobility and can deal good damage at the same time.
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How do people find groups in this game nowadays? Last time i played recruitment chat was absoleet garbage
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>>1504264
the most complex dofus mechanic is positioning imo, every class has to learn how to place themselves properly but if you play a tank class like panda or sacrier you need to think about it twice as much because to fulfil your role you need to position yourself, your enemies and your allies
I really like those two classes, I haven't played the most recent iteration of them but their kit had plenty of spells that allowed you to manage all of that and it made tanking feel really fulfilling, especially when you'd group with people you don't know
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>>1504310
Guilds
Making friends
Recruitment chat but prepare google translate
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>>1504291
Oh and Feca can apply gravity state so it can lock jumping mobs, panda can not
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>>1504310
you go in front of the dungeon you want to do and you send a message in chat
when you match with a group, talk with them and if you think they play well and you like their vibe make friend with them
then next time you play and you want to do a dungeon, and you see them online, invite them to play with you
and when with your group of friends you see someone who's been trying to do that dungeon you were about to jump in, invite him in and talk with him
and repeat the process until you make plenty of friends
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>>1504314
It's basically the only mechanic most of the time.
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>that damage
945 main stat, no flat damage and 20% dog boost

at higher levels it evens out in damage potential, but lower dmg classes at lower levels and with worse gear are gonna fucking SUCK
kaniggers have some tough mobs too at 160
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>>1504324
honestly I don't mind because it's my main reason to play dofus
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>>1504314
>The positioning CHAD
>The virgin damage dealer
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>>1504222
Multi-account players are funding Ankama. They're the players that keep playing not fotm mono-account faggots. Cope, seethe and dial8.
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>>1504343
lmao no, multi servers are dead
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>>1504345
Sure. We'll see about that in the long run. Spoiler : there will be a singular mono-account server but still multiple multi ones.
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>>1504348
there used to be like 6 or 7 mono servers before they all merged into draco......
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>>1504348
why wait? go check now, they're dead as shit
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>Playing a MMO by yourself
Legitimate what's the point?
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>>1504355
zoomers are genuinely afraid of any social interaction
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Mono is also much more popular in Wakfu, and it's much harder to do anything in that game without a group.
People just prefer to play an MMO like it's an MMO, multibox tards ruin everything they touch, literally sucking the soul out of a game in the name of efficiency
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>>1504353
>>1504354
Everyone will be playing mono on release because it's fotm hype but eventually most people will either quit or go back to multi.
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>>1504355
Mostly because of PvP. You can't pile up all the gear to play anything you want as fast and efficiently on mono especially Infinite Dreams stuff. Pretending there are no players interactions on multi is straight up wrong. Economy alone is a major thing.
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>>1504357
That's not even mentioning how you can play with 3 characters per account in Wakfu multi servers, so it's also way more convenient than Dofus is for multiboxing but still most people prefer not to do that.
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>Multi fags ruined the game
>When 2.42 made PvE a joke because mono faggots couldn't make their little duo achievements due to skill issues
Lmao
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Multichads stay winning
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multi fags not only ruined this game, they ruined countless other MMOs that didn't do enough to stop them, there's a reason it's explicitly banned in basically everything now, and there's a reason they're segregated in ankama games
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100% honest, Dofus is a great singleplayer game if you multiacc. Really fun.
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>>1504356
Zoomers play fortnight and cod,not french disgaea
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>>1504360
Another good reason to hate pvp cucks
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>>1504377
Does dofus even have cunny?
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>>1504383
ankama has plenty across their series, but no playable ones I believe
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>>1504266
>>1504291
How does Masq compare to these other tank classes?
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>>1504388
A lot more work for a worse result
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>>1504388
masq is more that they gave their allies tanking abilities than them being actually proper tanks
masqs are jacks of all trade, you'll never tank as well as classes whose kit is entirely dedicated to their role
they have so many tools it's really up to you to make them whatever you want
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>>1504375
It makes the game way too easy, I did it with Wakfu years ago but I got bored since nothing presents a challenge when you get to play so optimally, other people making mistakes is what makes the game fun and exciting, having to adapt and think about your turns thanks to unexpected situations is good. And you get the benefit of being able to talk when it's not your turn.
Turn based is the ideal format for an MMO, it's one of the few types of games where you can use the chat while playing.
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>>1504387
Frogs are actually based?
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>>1504388
Masq is more for making his whole team stay alive. It is tanky on its own but it is a protector/buffer rather than a tank
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>>1504393
You can make multiacc harder by not being a metawhore
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>>1504394
>age up your cunny in your path
nothin personnel kiddo
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>>1504403
>Cunny
>Breast growth
Damn ankama are some deviants
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>>1504392
>>1504390
Oh okay, well a jack of all trades is good too since this is going to be my first character. I just figured since it's listed as a tank on the website that it could viably function as one
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>>1504408
the website really considers tanks anything that tacles and can do life drain/lower damage taken, in practice real tanks have to provide more specific positioning than that
I think masq is a good class to start, it's a fair bit complex but at the same time you have a lot of tools to do a lot of stuff, and while I might not be the most up to date about current dofus I'd always welcome as masq in my group because they can provide a lot
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>>1504399
Harder but not hard unless you make a complete nonsense team, really the only difficulty modifier is not using a panda, but multi account players don't do that.
The benefit of always having the same team and being able to control all the characters is too strong, and they can't balance the game around it because it's still an MMO and it has to be doable for a random group of people with random classes, it can never actually become a challenging single player game because it isn't one. I wish they would make a real single player game so that they could up the difficulty.
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>>1504410
It’s still fun. And some content is still hard.
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>>1504408
it calls it a tank but it really should differentiate between something like "tank" and "bruiser"
masq are definitely not some squishy paper thin class that can't sustain or protect themselves, but they aren't tanks.
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>>1504425
Well they could lock down like 2 mobs and survive the damage, but they are outclassed as a pure tank by Feca and Panda
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Masqs are an offensive tanks. You can cover yourself with shields and jump into the middle of a mob, deal huge damage to them and fuck off before you get overwhelmed, then start again.
While something like pandas are defensive tanks, where they can spend a hundred turns taking a beating and still end at full health, but they'll literally have 0 damage dealt by the end of it
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is cra really as boring as people say it is?
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>>1504440
Not. It's worse
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>>1504440
Most boring class easily, they didn't even try to make it interesting.
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Ankama is retarded and all the classes will be gimped as long as they don't separate PvM and PvP balancing
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>Osa is LE BAD in pvm cause summon swarm is weak
You know you can spec Osa to play with one single overbuffed summon? It’s not bad in PvM, tons of buffs for team, healing and good damage.
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>>1504448
Ankama is retarded and all the classes will be gimped even if they separate pvp and pvm balancing because class reworks is how they "spice up the game"
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>>1504445
>Most boring class easily,
That would be Feca
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>>1504452
Actually placing a square on the ground is fun
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>>1504452
It's so boring I forgot it exists.
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>>1504264
Sacrier.
Panda positioning is point and click, it's braindead. Feca is very forgiving and can easily adapt to any situation.
Sacrier has to think when tanking.
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>rework Feca
>expect to make it more like the protector/shepherd it's suppose to be
>make it even more boring than it was, nerf defensive potential while increasing offense

It's a strong class, but it has 0 identity and 0 fun
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>>1504440
You can easily spot a retard when he says Cra is the least skilled and boring class in the game. It's neither of those especially in PvP. The class has a bunch of cool tools and has very satisfying spells like Punitive Arrow. Managing line of sight alone puts it above a bunch of classes in terms of difficulty, something the majority of players do not know properly.
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>>1504460
this is your brain on crafaggotry
>managing line of sight
>put ruler on screen
>draw a line
>it works
cra isn't the easiest, but claiming it's not boring you never played the class
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>>1504460
holy kek what a retard
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>>1504463
Cra isn't boring if you're a braindead retard faggot nigger like he keeps calling everyone else, please understand
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>>1504465
I-It takes skill to know the right time to use it!
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>>1504471
please understand it's a level 120 spell, he hasn't unlocked it yet
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>>1504450
>You know you can spec Osa to play with one single overbuffed summon?
And they still die really easily.
>tons of buffs for team
Like 2 or smth. But this is a Dofus problem, the modern game design team is for some reason allergic to buff. A buff class in this game can give like 2 pa to one ally, 200 stats and that's it
>healing
Average
>good damage
Below average, need to play water for big damage which means close range which means your summon dying because osa is a shit melee class
Another problem is that the class is clunky to use, having to hit stuff to get the correct level in whatever element you need to then have the summon do whatever you want it to do is just too many step.


I like the class but I really wish they went back to something closer to retro, where summons aren't element based, but instead utility based (we would also get more different type of summon, instead of literally only 4 with a different coat of paint for each inside each family)
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>>1504460
Crabros… We are fucking retarded
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>>1504480
osa basically provides nothing to a team these days, not sure what he meant by that
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>>1504484
do they not have resurrection anymore?
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Isn't Iop supposed to be the braindead class?
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>>1504488
No, it was removed a while ago
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>Retards immediately came out of the woodwork
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>>1504490
that's fucked, I'm looking at the spell list I guess they turned them into offensive summoners with the summons doing the support now? seems kinda lame
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>>1504489
Iop has to think about when to go in and when to hold back/retreat
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Osas now having six spells that are EXACTLY the same fucking thing when I'm certain they could have done something better with a single slot is all the proof I need that Ankama does not give a fuck
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>>1504498
>Iop has to think
stopped reading there
retard
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>>1504489
same design philosophy as cra but close range
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>>1504492
You sure proved them all wrong by calling them retards again
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>>1504500
>I can't read
Skill issue, literally
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>Crabros think their class takes skill
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>>1504519
crab bros...
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>>1504534
pandas have low iq damage zones but high iq placement techs, which makes them mid iq on average
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>>1504581
>Point and click is high IQ
It’s literally the most braindead easy placement skill in the game
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>>1504503
You want proof the "Cra is totally 100% braindead" retards are wrong and don't know wtf they are talking about? Managing line of sight is a major skill to have in the game and only a few classes are really concerned by it on the regular. Here is an example.

Look at this picture. You have <20 seconds to figure out the 2 tiles where that Sadida has line of sight on the Pouch and has enough MP for.

Chances are, if you are not quite experienced playing ranged characters, you failed. Most players cannot find the answer at a glance and a lot can't even figure it out at all. Mind you, this is a simple setup on a small map and it gets trickier the further you are. Cra is all about finding and/or creating lines of sight with positioning spells which makes it quite entertaining. If you mess up, you will potentially pass your turn doing basically nothing or not hit the target you want.

Never, ever listen to anything this thread has to say about classes. Always make your own opinion.
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>>1504623
I've played wakfu for a long time and I still can't always predict the LoS.
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>>1504623
Cras have a spell that deactivates line of sight lil bro. Put the fries in the bag after you’ve pressed that destructive arrow button twice, bozo
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>>1504623
Literally 100% of classes have to play with this same mechanic, only they don’t get the unga rewards cra do for getting it right
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>>1504623
>>1504465
cra gets to bypass this, other classes don't
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>>1504631
Wakfu has way smaller maps and not much ranged play from what I've seen. It's not that hard but it does take some getting used to. On this specific scenario I've showed, you should pretty easily figure out the closest tile which is always the same color as the target's then just have to "shift" that position further away.
This is a somewhat niche scenario but it does happen often enough to be useful. Most of the time you'd want to position units accordingly but that again is a major skill in itself if you stay wary of your teammates and what mobs do.
Cra is nowhere near the hardest class to play but it does go over important fundamentals of the game if you try to play it right.
>>1504632
>>1504646
>Bro just use Acuity
Traded for Distant Shot which is one of the best team buff in the game. Imagine passing over 6 (SIX) range for yourself and your whole team. Acuity also only lasts 1 turn for a 3 turns CD. That's not an argument at all. Every Cra should and has to know how to position.
>>1504643
>Literally 100% of classes have to play with this same mechanic
Not at all or not to this extent at least. If you really look closer, there aren't many classes that rely on high ranged + line of sight required + not in line spells. Even then it's only on one or some elements unlike Cra which is for everything except Raining and Piercing.
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Crabros… Everyone is laughing at us……..
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>>1504623
take a ruler and draw a line
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>>1504651
It lasts 2 turns with a 3 turn cd my man, chances are the rest of the team isn't going to be hugging your nuts to receive your range buff anyway, disabling line of sight takes cra from easy mode to autopilot, this is probably one of the most retarded spells ever conceived in a game like this.
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>>1504662
>He confidently gets it wrong
OH NONONO HAHAHAHA
>>1504663
You're all really a bunch of retards. You should really shut the fuck up.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU ABOUT WHICH CLASSES SUCK IN THIS THREAD BY THE WAY.
LET. THAT. SINK. IN.
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Crabro having a melty.
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>>1504668
provide the proper answer if I'm wrong
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>Cra has to spend 3ap if they cant reach their opponent with their spells
>Other classes have to pass their turn
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>>1504671
It was right there for you to see >>1504651. Dear Lord that's embarrassing. YOU FLAME CRA AND CAN'T EVEN GET THAT SIMPLE THING RIGHT.
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>>1504676
that's not a proper answer, because you're not providing proof that you're right
I'm asking you to provide proof here
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List of classes easier than Cra:
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Why the fuck is this even a discussion?
Cra is INTENTIONALLY one of the easiest classes in the game
It's supposed to be easy as fuck, so any new player who's unsure of what to play will see an archer and go "Yeah I know what an archer does", Instead of getting overwhelmed by the name of mechanics he doesn't even know and decides to just drop the game
December can't come soon enough so there's some actual discussion to be had
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>VOUS FLAMMEZ LES CRAS!? MAIS POURQUOI!!!!!
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>>1504678
I'm not going to bother summoning shit to show your last 2 tiles were not even in sight. If you don't even know this is a 1 tile due to the obstacles your retardation is beyond saving.
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>>1504689
>I'm not going to provide proof
concession accepted
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>>1504685
Who said anything about skill ceiling you brainlet?
I'm specifically talking to the people saying Cra isn't at the bottom of the skill floor
If you think a year of training with the class will let you buff damage and attack from across the map more effectively then whatever, go solo Count, I don't give a shit
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>>1504685
What a weird thing to say
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>>1504691
>>1504662
NICE LINE OF SIGHT RETARD !
HAHAHAHAHAHA !
You suck at the game. Now shut your whore mouth.
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>>1504696
>Brings up skill ceiling when no one is talking about that
>Brings up wakfu when no one is talking about that
Okay man I'll just leave you to argue with the voices in your head, have a good one.
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There's only 2 tier of difficulty in this game.
>Tier 1
Rogue, Xelor, Elio
>Tier 2
Everything else
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Total cra medication
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Absolutely and utterly BTFO. Total Cra main victory.
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>>1504706
Actually water ougi takes skill cause you need to play with LoS
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Tell me the hardest class though
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>>1504719
Hardest to learn is Xelor.
Hardest to master is Rogue or Osamodas.
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Iop takes skill because it has to find line of sight
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>>1504720
>Master Osa after years of playing
>Still the least useful in any fight
Dope
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>>1504727
>Mastering a class to play PvM
If you're useless in PvM it's a skill issue. It's a high IQ class. An Osa that understands how AI priorities work is pretty strong. People don't take them in groups because they don't know what they can actually do. I would take one over a meta class, if a guy plays Osa at high level he must be a real gamer.
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>>1504623
>muh line of sight
sounds like a skill issue
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>>1504737
Well yes, that is... the point?
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>>1504440
No. Damage isn't boring
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>>1504747
This. I have the most fun raping everything that moves with my arrows.
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>Sets reworked to be more appealing and give more gear variety to players
>Every single interesting set above level 60 requires alloys, substrates and pvp tokens that will cost an arm early on servers
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>>1504793
It depends. Low level sets (above 60) have low item requirements and can be farmed by you or in a group.
However Dofus crafting resource requirements scale with level so eventually X level item won't be realistically farmable.
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>>1504798
even Moowolf is relatively easy to farm
the 120x is from a level 46-50 mob at 8% drop rate
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>>1504800
Then lv200 gear says fuck you and requires a lot of lv200 mob loot and several boss drops.
Btw this is a super cheap item at level 200. Babby's first lv200 headgear.
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>>1504798
Bro those Bakelelite will cost you like 50k kamas each lol. It'll be 95% of the the cost for this necklace.
>>1504800
Ye Moowolf will be absolute go to for Earth. Easy to craft relatively speaking because for that Cauldini cloth and Moowolf tooth you will have to farm the bosses for a 5% droprate. Double set bonus for +2 AP is the play but with all the gathering shit required almost every time you inevitably have to cough up way too many kamas for them. There are exceptions of course but very few and they don't necessarily pair well with each others.
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Reminder that the Chance element which increases your Water spell damage, also gives Prospecting and actually increases loot drops...

Play a class with good early Water and a solid Water spell set if you want loot :^)
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Will I finally be able to level gathering professions in unity now or do I still have to buy everything from bots?
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>>1504887
If you play when frogs are sleeping, otherwise you're fucked.
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Beta finally gave me the opportunity of trying out Masqs at high levels
Holy shit bros this is so ass...
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>>1504921
I used the term "meta" loosely to refer to easy classes. There isn't really a meta except Panda being always relevant. Otherwise it depends about what we're talking about. Leveling? Dungeons? Solo? Duo? Party of 4, 8? Farm? PvP? Infinite Dreams? Doing those in rags or with good gear? Everything leads to different answers.
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>>1504928
Why are they ass?
>High damage
>Gigantic shields
>Unique and cheap damage buffs to several people at once
>Can increase damage taken for enemies with nearly 100% uptime
It’s meta in melee teams for a reason.
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>>1504921
Meta depends on the content and progression
PvP, PvM, Early, Late, Infinite Dreams
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>>1504932
This. It's a teamplay class.
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>>1504928
post build
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These niggas look cool in a dorky way
Are they fun?
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>>1504932
>Teams
Yeah not for me then. Pity cause their design is the coolest

>>1504936
Strength. Not going to open the game to look at items
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>>1504939
They can one shot everything in the game so yeah they're pretty cool
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>>1504942
Don't tell them
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>You choose to worship Sram
>Suddenly you am become skelenton
Spooky
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>>1504969
Then who was phone?
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>>1504969
Just have a vagina bro, then you can keep your skin
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>>1504978
skelegirls when?
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When you level up and put points towards your characteristics, is there a means to reset your choice and "respec" your character at a later date? Or do I need to glue my eyes to a guide during the entire leveling process?
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>>1505102
Before 30 you can reset for free as many times as you like at some npc in incarnam.
After that, if you are subscribed you can respec as many times as you like by pressing a button in your UI at any time.

So if you are subscribed, no, you can respec your character a million times a day.
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>>1505156
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>>1505102
spells are free to pick and choose
stats are free respec
class change is free up to level 20 in incarnam - won't do much because class identity isn't a thing until level 100
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>>1505172
>because class identity isn't a thing until level 100
H-how long does it take to reach 100? I'm just dicking around to figure out if I'm interested in this game until they launch 3.0
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>>1505176
they're over reaching, you always start with the basic spells that define the class identity and most of the time you get the more complex options at later levels usually within the first hundred levels
level 100 for a new player is probably a good month or two but if you don't like leveling at low level you're not gonna like what comes after because exp is exponential in Dofus, level 100 is like a quarter of the way to 200
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rping as a cute caramel girl who's playing for the first time to get myself off
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>>1505156
Bro that's not been the case for years lmao. Stat respecs can be done anytime anywhere for free and spells have 3 tiers acquired automatically upon reaching certain levels. Thank God.
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>>1505279
That’s what he said, crabro
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>>1505285
No it's 100% false. You can restat wherever and whenever you want, subbed or not.
>Retarded Cra flamer
Of course. At this point I'd just stop posting if I were you. It's just embarrassing. You can't tell anything true about the game even if your life depended on it.
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>>1505288
>it was actually the craschizo
ain't no way, bluds....
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>>1505183
>a month
if you play one hour a day I guess
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>>1505300
that's a new player on a new server so no exp boost, have to craft all the equipment and who will hopefully do a soulful mix of questing and dungeoning
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>>1505305
they won't have to craft anything since they'll be behind the thousands of speedrun autists who reach 100 in a day and you can buy cheap stuff off the market, only way it takes a month is if they're new to MMOs as a whole and try to do all quests without guides which would probably just make them quit. or they have no time to play the game
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>>1505306
I haven't played from scratch in too long for my opinion to be well informed, I don't know how easy it is to make money nowadays but I sure wish things will be as fast and easy as you make it sound
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>tfw getting filtered by Count Harebourg
Share some tips bros...
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>>1505312
well achievements give you a lot of exp and kamas now, and you can drop gear up to level 60, so it's very easy to level up and get gear as long as you're a bit behind the curve, you don't have to do any grinding for a long time as long as you're trying to do achievements and the around the world quests which make you do the dungeons.
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>>1505312
It's not going to be easy at all if you compare to a few years back. Achievements got nerfed and rare boss or dungeon mobs resources farming are back on the menu. Idols got removed so no more easy resource drop. Money generation is scarce and mainly obtained through quests or achievements which give a fairly low amount. If you take it chill you should still be alright. There is not much point to rush anyway. The only motivation to do so is to get early on the item crushing for runes shenanigans and even this got nerfed. First crush coefficients on new servers will be 1000% instead of the usual 4000%. Still a fairly decent incentive but giga neet sweaters will not bank nearly as much.
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2 more weeks...
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Dead thread dead game
Sad
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>"Ho wow so cool set bonuses were buffed !"
>Has to wear blop and scara set all the way to 110 because everything is expensive due to retarded gathering materials
They need to either remove or rework gathering. Fuck this shit. Legit going to ruin the early game on servers.
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What are the strongest early game classes? I want something that will prevent me from getting filtered. Fogger looks strong, but too many people in guild have it, and summons share global cooldown, so it's not fun in team play. No Cra suggestions please, I'm straight.
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>>1505557
No bots this time though bro
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>>1505573
Sacrier is easy mode until level 199
I think chance has the best lifesteal
Just spec into that and face tank everything
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>>1505581
Is face tanking actually viable? I find it hard to believe a Sac can solo early dungeons the way fogger can, but I've never seen modern Sac so I don't know.
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>>1505577
>No bots
>Extremely high competition
>Only a few nerds who will get ahead of the pack playing 48 hours straight manage to get 40+
>They proceed to list materials at insane prices
Wow so cool I'm glad bots are gone meanwhile I'm wearing a blop set at lvl 100
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>>1505583
Yes
Insta kills bosses only start showing up at 200, and chance has some range so you can just kite around the occasional ones at lower levels
Just use a half decent set and don't be a complete retard trying to face tank 8 enemies at once or doing dungeons twice your level
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Insta kill mechanics are so fucking gay. Woohoo, I sure love having to do everything again over one fucking small mistake. So fun.
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>One-shotting the boss with Sram trap networks
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>Retarded cra flamer
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>>1505603
Just don't play melee, iop brain
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Hey everyone,

I understand that passions run high when it comes to Dofus, but can we please keep the general thread a space for friendly discussions and helpful interactions? Constant arguments and heated exchanges only clutter the thread and make it harder for others to engage or find useful information.

We all have different opinions and experiences, and that’s what makes the community interesting, but let’s try to keep it respectful and constructive. If you’re feeling upset about something, it might be better to take it to a private Discord message. Let’s keep the general thread a place where everyone can contribute without feeling overwhelmed by negativity.

Thanks for your understanding and cooperation!

Let's keep it fun and positive!
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>>1505647
My DMs. 10 minutes.
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>>1505647
I want to RAPE all Cra and Cra players and have very STEAMY and HOT BABYMAKING SEX with them UNTIL they can't stand ANYMORE and then cum on THEIR BOWSTRING so they can't shoot it anymore AND are reduced TO MY personal cumDUMPS
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Which goddess would you fuck the hardest?
For me, it's Feca
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>Opt for the easiest class in the game
>Not a shitter
Yeah...
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>Still coping
You're so clueless you can't even tell which class is the easiest, that literally can't die and with get out of jail free cards.
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>19 classes
>one class represents 25% of the playerbase
actually insane
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>>1505684
Taking no damage and never having to interact with mechanics is a pretty good get out of jail free card
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>>1505698
Maybe try playing above level 100 before opening your mouth. I'll be nice and not consider this a try. So which is it?
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>>1505700
Level 200 farming has been cra spam for like 10 years, crabro
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OFFICIAL difficulty ratings according to Ankama

>1/5
Cra, Iop, Sacrier, Eniripsa

>2/5
Ouginak, Sram, Enutrof, Feca

>3/5
Forgelance, Sadida, Masqueraider, Pandawa

>4/5
Ecaflip, Foggernaut, Osamodas, Huppermage

>5/5
Rogue, Xelor, Eliotrope

Thoughts?
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>>1505709
Osa should go to 5
Sram to 3
Feca to 1
Ecaflip to 3
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>>1505709
Based on the complexity to understand spells and not actual gameplay.
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>>1505713
Where did they say that's what it means, they describe it as "Difficulty"
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>>1505709
fair but it's also not reflective of his level play and how rewarding they are to play
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>>1505715
Because otherwise it wouldn't be like this. Elio wouldn't be on the same tier as Rogue and Xelor. Sram is higher if you network. Some classes are way harder in PvP than just casual PvM etc.
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>>1505720
So you're just assuming they meant something other than what they say it means, which doesn't make sense because unless you're illiterate you shouldn't have any trouble reading spells.
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>>1505652
she's my absolute favorite
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>>1505722
It means
>How difficult is that class to understand
Not
>How difficult is that class to play
Idk what to tell you if you don't understand this. Just play the game.
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>>1505724
You're just disagreeing with what they described it as and expecting anyone to care, it's a difficulty rating get over it.
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>>1505708
Irrelevant and also untrue. There were other farm metas since the 1 global explo nerf like full Eca and full Sadida. Forge is also the best to AoE farmer now.
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>>1505729
>Ask a question
>Doesn't like the answer
>"Waaah who cares what you think"
Retard
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>>1505643
Still cracks me up that they censored her design for Waven
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>>1505731
I didn't ask for your interpretation of what they think the word "Difficulty" means, does it hurt your ego or something?
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>>1505734
Krosmaga was so niche they just could get away with a lot of things
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>>1505735
I was answering what is the truth about this rating and you come to me arguing about semantics. Just play the game and maybe you will understand but I wouldn't bet my money on that with how stupid you seem to be.
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>>1505723
Imagine the reverse rape
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>>1505746
she's my one and only goddess and I'd let her do anything she wants to me
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>>1505741
You must be ESL because it takes skill to be this dumb, take it up with Ankama if you think they used the wrong word.
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>>1505754
>Being an ESL equates to being dumb
Meanwhile you're a mono-lingual faggot speaking a caveman tier language arguing the term "difficulty" takes into account how the game plays globally on said class. Just play Sram then, 2/5 stars class. Should be pretty easy right ? There is no way Ankama would mislead you !
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Tons of classes have pushback spell paths but I never see anyone play them. Only pushback fogger is somewhat common.
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>>1505734
Really? Did they cover up her tits or what
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>>1505767
most of them are used for minor placement in PvE
they do see uses in PvP for some classes but they're dedicated builds
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>>1505767
It's not good, that's why, why load your damage into something that has extra conditions like needing something to push into and requiring the target to be able to be pushed in the first place?
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what's wrong with you people can't you be normal for one day
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>>1505781
The damage is high no? Also bypasses resistances.
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>>1505790
there are flat pushback damage resistances in high level equipments
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>>1505790
There's also pushback resistance, the damage isn't that good because it's only scaled by level and pushback damage.
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Who was saying Masq does low damage? I hit 4k second turn after buffs on 0% resistances.
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>>1505795
Scratch that, I do 5k if I start turn with right mask.
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>>1505795
there are classes that do double that t2
nothing in the game does "low damage" though
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>>1505803
No class does 10k on turn 2. And 5k is higher than Sac and maybe Cra on turn 2
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>>1505804
Sac does 5k in aoe
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>>1505790
Pushback builds are strong in PvP but not great in PvE for two reasons. First, there isn't an uncommon amount of abilities that would make monsters immune to it. Things such as being unmmovable or having a load of pushback resistance. It's a similar reason as to why xelor has a rough time in high level content. Second, there are many boss mechanics where the position of you or the boss is important. That means it can interfere with you wanting to push things into a wall. To put it simply, there are many aspects that completely shut down pushback builds depending on the dungeon you're running.
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>>1505806
No it doesn't. 3k perhaps.
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>>1505804
You can do 8-9k with some classes on turn 2.
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>>1505813
Proof?
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>>1505807
You don't need to go hard on building pushback damage, most pushback damage spells got regular variants of the same elements for use in dungeons where pushback sucks.
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What's the most annoying class to fight against?
Thinking of pissing off some PvP cucks on the new servers
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>>1505899
Sadi
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>>1505813
Retard
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>>1505767
Pushback damage builds are all fun and games until you encounter a monster which cannot be moved or you're in a dungeon where pushback is punished.
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How much IQ do I need to play rogue well?
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>>1505907
Pushback is only good in PvP
Not worth the PvM hassle compared to glass cannon crit
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>>1505908
Not much, new rogue isn't remotely as hard as all rogue. All classes are being homogenized to be easier.
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>>1505908
3 digit
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>>1505911
Aww darn
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>>1505908
50 for Unity
200 for Touch
000 for Retro
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You fags sure are talking a lot of shit considering you will all be hardstuck on Catseye forever, if you even make it this far. Eniripsa is the easiest class in the game by the way and it's not even close lol. That thing has lifesteal on basically everything and legit completely braindead. It's definitely not Cra which has the absolute worst survivabilty when sustain will be the name of the game for clearing dungeons in rags on new servers.
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Wtf happened to enutrof man?
>more range than cra
>Almost as much damage
>Remove ap
>Remove mp
>Remove range
>Heals
>Summons
>ST damage
>Aoe Damage
What's the disadvantage of playing these old farts?
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>>1505924
I'd just be roleplaying a jew so it's okay
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>>1505921
>Cra lifesteal spells
6, one single target in each element (2 aoe but they're variants) + eye for an eye (20% of damage dealt as lifesteal 1 turn for the whole team, also makes enemies push themselves back if they hit you, also steals range)

>Eni lifesteal spells
4 (2 aoe but one of them pulls enemies towards you) + bloodless word (same as eye for an eye but 25% and costs 4 ap instead of 2, and no additional effects)

Eni has some other random small ways to heal but it also has less range, and far less damage.
Don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to a Cra downplayer but based on FACTS and LOGIC, it's not worse than Eni in the sustain department, in fact they're similar.
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>>1505922
>almost as much damage (than cra)
deranged cra downplayers

they have poor positioning for mechanics, MP red +a lil push is good enough to kite
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>>1505984
you're in a dofus thread, this is mostly french people speaking in english to each others
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>>1506118
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>>1506161
this but someone who tells me to skip turn
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Okay but which class is the most fun?
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>>1506184
this is the gayest answer but you really need to play them and get grasp at the classes to find what appeals to you
I love managing placement, I find it very fulfilling so for me the most fun class is the Sacrier
Some people in this thread love managing their line of sight and deal big damage from afar so they play Cra
each class has some specific appeal (often with some overlaps), you really need to test them at least a bit to get the basic taste of them
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Shill me on this, I feel like making a mistake and trying an MMO again.
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>>1506232
Dofus is a grid-based, turn-based mmorpg in the universe of Dofus
You can play one of 19 unique classes and you'll have to cooperate with other players to beat dungeons, farm ressources and do PvP
Each class has some unique wacky mechanics or advantage that makes them all significantly different from the others, which can allow to some class having really nice interactions with each other and it makes working together with your allies, since it's grid based and turn based you can talk and plan things with your allies
it's definitely more on the strategy side than your average mmorpg, especially in late game where if you fuck up some boss placement it could spell total wipe of your entire team
also the girls are hot
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>>1506232
also on the 3rd of December the version 3 of the game is coming out with brand new start-over servers so it's basically the best time to start the game
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>>1505971
Lay off the weed your brain is completely fried. Imagine arguing Cra has even remotely as much sustain as Eniripsa. The class that literally carries your dumb ass with absurd heal output because you can't handle dungeons lmao. You sure don't want your little pet to get a bad rep itt, your progress depends on it. It is the easiest and most braindead class like it or not.
Cra's lifesteal? Immobilizing arrow has laughable damage. The lifesteal on Judgement is low and does not scale with MP, only damage. Eye for an eye has a 4/3 turns CD, heals 20% of damage when HIT with no reduction and trades for Lark Mirror which is more useful in PvM (granted you are smart and understand static summon priority). Devoring only lifesteals once changing target after copious stacking (so 1 out of 2 turns at best). Crushing got nerfed and has a 3 turns CD. The ONLY somewhat reliable lifesteal is Tormenting and that's 1 per target per turn. Also that's literally it, no damage reduction, no shields, no cleanse just measly lifesteal spells and pushbacks that won't save you the higher level you go.
You sure talk big about "fact and logic" when spouting such retarded nonesense. There is a reason why Cras have a bad rep out of all the easy classes. Once difficulty arises, it hits them like a train. There is no room for mistakes because if that happens they just fucking die. Problem with Eniripsa? Just top yourself up bro, remove that nasty debuff and put on a little shield.
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>>1506278
Crabro it doesn't work when you're the one calling them spergs
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>>1506063
The auto win everything comp is Panda/Iop/Elio/Enutrof seething retarded schizo. Even if you add more to it Feca and Eni come before Cra at the very least. Anyone with half a brain would take an Enutrof over a Cra in a group.
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I'm a metafag, but I just can't bring myself to play Enu. I just hate their stupid design.
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>>1506296
Design as in visual? If so same but their kit is just insane. So many "I'm ruling this fight" buttons.
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>>1506318
Crap was meant for >>1506310
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Don't worry Enu bros
Young Enutrof skin is happening in unity soon
Trust the plan
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They opened more spots in each server
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>>1506340
Based Ankama stress testing servers live and crashing them with no survivors.
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>>1506353
That's not the maximum capacity of each server. They already said you can make a character on any server you want on release. This is just to save your name
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>make the classes with the goofiest aesthetics the strongest
>somehow make them even more goofy in 3.0
I don't care how strong you make Enu and Panda, I'm never playing them til they have good character customization/models. Reminder Alibert from Wakfu is an Enu, and Enus can be young.
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Trust on the new customization options
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>>1506367
That'll be $20 each, goy
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>>1506363
It hardly matters, just play whatever you want, Dofus classes are getting more samey by the week, such is the fate of any game balanced around PvP.
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>>1506318
Yeah, visually speaking.
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Enutrofs are cool and unique though. I've never seen a fighting treasure hunter / prospector in fantasy that is old and decrepid because they wield dark magic from a god that ages them.

In lore, Enutrofs aren't old, their body just withers due to the magic they wield from the god Enutrof. So stronger Enutrofs look old because they control a lot of this magic. While those who don't worship Enutrof so dutifully look younger (like Alibert).
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>>1506373
Name 2 classes that are "samey" PvM cuck
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How are people playing the beta?
Whenever I get in I play for 10 minutes before some annoying bug forces me to relog and after a while I just give up
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>>1506420
Works on my machine, there is a bug that breaks the game and forces you to restart but its only happened to me twice, not every 10 minutes, and it takes 2 seconds to relaunch the game.
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>>1506420
The question is, how are YOU getting such problems? The beta works quite fine except a couple skill animation issues maybe.
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>>1506438
Sure isn't working in mine
Every time I log in the resolutions resets down to 1080p so my menus get scattered around the screen
I have enemies and my own summons go invisible mid battle and can only target them through the portraits
And them there's npcs just disappearing, professor Xa at the end of his dungeon is invisible almost every time I get there so I can't leave

>>1506450
That's a great fucking question.
I reinstalled the beta already and didn't seem to do anything, neither did messing with settings
Honest don't know what the fuck is up with it on my machine
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>>1506458
Are you playing on Linux?
I can't think of any other reason why you'd have more problems.
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>>1506478
No, normal windows 11
I removed everything and am reinstalling it outside of program files now, no idea what else I'd try
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>>1506458
It's what happens when you actually play the game and not just hit the Pouch. Report your issues on the forum. If you want to have a laugh try playing Panda. They have so much weird shit happening it's actually hilarious unless that got fixed.
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>>1506482
>windows 11
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>>1506484
Yeah I'm starting to think that might really be the case
If anyone can be bothered to do a test, try fighting a mob with invisibility and tell me what that looks like
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>>1506495
It's the same shit as the 5 previous iterations of windows.

>>1506510
It functions as expected for me
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>>1506519
Yeah I don't fucking know then
I'm just sure it isn't supposed to look like this
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>>1506530
It could just be a class specific thing who knows, post it on the bug reports section on the forum.
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>>1506533
>>1506530

Looks like it got reported in the french forums already
https://www.dofus.com/fr/forum/1909-bugs-visuels/2415870-toute-entites-invisible
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>>1506544
They are saying it's linked to the "bring entities to the foreground" setting, try turning that off for now, I've never had it on so that would explain it.
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It's a feature, MAPphobes
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Can someone explain Fogger to me? Not specific mechanics, just in general his role in the group or what makes it unique compared to other classes
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Is /agg/ still playing on Dakal 2 at release ? They added some room to all the monoaccount servers, I'm asking to see if I should move my prereg
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>>1506615
yes, dakal 2
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>>1506580
Foggernaut's gameplay revolves around turrets that will help you fulfil some roles, they're kind of a jack of all trade but more support oriented
you've got good heal, good shields, good support, good placement while still being able to deal a fair amount of damage
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>>1506580
Huge warning for Foggernaut. The turrets are globally shared between all the Foggernauts on the team. So multiple of them will cuck each other. And it seems like it's popular with the guild, because it's a strong early game class.
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>>1506580
Map control with good healing and damage sprinkled in. You fortify a little area with your turrets and sit comfy there while pushing out mobs.
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>>1506648
>multiple sexy foggernauts looking for a team
god I might need to join the guild this time
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>>1506648
How can I tell what the rest of the guild is playing? There's an excel somewhere?
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Fogger is probably the most fun class. They get fun fantasy mechanics while being strong at the same time. And nobody will ever object to a fogger in a group.
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>>1506679
Role picker channel on the guild discord gives you an idea of what everyone will be playing. Eca and Sram seem to be the most popular.
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Does Eni still have a way of giving +2ap to more than 1 person? I think I saw an eni do that.
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>>1506692
Yeah, if you cast the spell on Coney or the Flasks it becomes AOE.
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>>1506691
I wasn't even aware there was a guild discord, I guess you get access to it by actually being in the guild?
Would be nice to have something the entire thread can post their choice on. A poll maybe?
I'm sure there's a lot of people waiting to join only when the new servers are up (like me)
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>>1506701
>actually being in the guild?
Servers aren't up, so there's no guild yet. Anyone can join. Jannies must have deleted the discord link that was posted earlier.
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>>1506701
You really shouldn't care what the animals in this thread are playing. 80% of them won't make it past level 100. Just pick whatever you vibe with. If you're going to play with a mate on the regular maybe consider something that synergies but even then you should be fine picking anything you both like.
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>>1506701
Just pick whatever you want. People will try to make the guild as quick as possible so anons who aren't really comfortable with discord/autistic can join
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>4 ecas
>4 srams
>3 masqs
>3 foggers
>3 forges
>2 enis
>2 fecas
>2 sacs
>2 sadis
>2 pandas
>2 rogues
>1 iop
>1 osa
>1 enu
>1 hupper
>1 ougi
If anyone is curious
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>>1506732
Xelorbros... There's no rolling back from this one...
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Eni is ba-ACKKK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbdV1qTtItA
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>>1506732
Based Sram enjoyers. Hopefully you're playing female too, though the skellies aren't too bad I guess.
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>>1506736
Bro, please understand. They don't do as much damage as Cra so they are bad, ok?
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>>1506701
Here >>1499175
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>>1506732
Pretty weird distribution, sounds like we're all contrarians and furries.
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>>1506773
Yeah, I went to take a look, seems like you guys have some hilarious memeisters in there.
I'll just stick to the game chat, you all have fun doing your thing
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>>1506782
Good thing you were able to run back to 4chan to be safe from memes
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>>1506782
Chondo here
please play a cute male eni so you can be my bf
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>>1506782
If we ban catdo will you come back?
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>>1506546
>>1506544
So this seems to have fixed every single one of my visual bugs
I don't know whether to be glad it was an easy fix or pissed off that the hacks at ankama made the game unplayable because of a single checkbox
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What are we thinking of the new Xelor in beta?
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>Eternal harvest with 4 characters
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>>1506782
Why do you have a problem with me and not the 50 people going ew an account made today I was just trying to be friendly to you kek. Come back whenever you like we can still be friends :^)
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>>1506848
That's it cat I'm starting a petition to get you banned
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>>1506842
I was going to ask why but remembered Ankama is legit fucking fried to put "six out of six" as a requirement for the Sylvan. Hopefully they fix this retarded shit because they literally did that to justify the actual quest being laughably short and uninteresting.
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>>1506854
good luck im behind 7 mondos
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No MAPphobia in the guild PLEASE
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>Enutrofs can go invisible now
??
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>>1506872
>a clique of 94 members
Yeah sure
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>>1506842
Just doing it with one is making me wanna kym
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How are the classes compared to wakfu? In wakfu they were very unique and gimmicky, like Xelor's clock or Fogger's rails. From what i see Dofus is more simplistic?
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>>1506879
You successfully lured a bunch of people by claiming the spot of the threads guild by posting a link. Congratulation. Doesn't change the fact you let a faggot schizo in charge who will abuse his power like with this guy who likely did nothing wrong other than being too based. You don't call him out over his bullshit because you're a clique. How does that work for a 4chan guild of all things? That is pretty simple and everyone in this thread deserves to be warned.
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>>1506903
The guild worked just fine for both the dofus and wakfu monoserver launches so chances are it'll be fine for the unity launch too. It's also big enough where you don't have to group up with someone if you don't like them. Dunno what your damage is.
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>>1506897
Dofus focuses on width over depth, you have more spells available at once but they're less specialized than they are in Wakfu, you might have spells that kinda do the same thing but in a different element. Classes don't have passives to choose from, some have one baked in but some don't have any at all.
They also don't have inherent spells like the third bar from Wakfu, and much less gimmicks usually, so yeah Dofus is a bit more simplistic.

A good example is Cra, in Wakfu it's like jumping through several burning hoops over a spike pit in order to do damage thanks to all the passives, resources and gimmicks you have to deal with, while in Dofus it's like walking from point A to point B.
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>>1506903
Is he going to abuse his power soon? I've been waiting more than seven years and all I've seen is schizos like you talking about themselves in the third person and making the thread unusable
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>>1506911
what about fun? Is dofus combat more fun and/or fulfilling?
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>>1506920
Fuck yes
Wait for the elio to clean the room simulator wasn't my cup of tea
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>>1506920
That is entirely subjective but what I can say is objectively better is that Dofus plays out much faster, all the animations are faster, enemies play their turns faster etc, Wakfu combat really drags on because everything is slow.
It also really depends what classes you play because some are painfully boring in Dofus and some in Wakfu haven't been updated in years so they're terrible compared to recently reworked ones.
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>>1506903
he didnt banned loop tho
loop left.
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>>1506903
Even if I don't like duny and he doesn't like me he never did anything about it and didn't abuse his power.
I argued with him constantly in wakfu and he never kicked people for not liking them. Just because you would abuse the modicum of power you get doesn't mean everyone else would and you don't need to live in fear of it.
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>>1506733
lmao
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>>1506927
>loop left.
Conveniently forgetting that was after being muted for no valid reason.
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>>1502444
>They got rid of the goofy skeleton face
from >>1504939
I'm kinda mad about it ngl
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>>1507012
touch digital grass at least
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>>1507019
lotsa colors...
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>>1507019
Eyesockets aren't round enough so it loses its goofy vibe
0/10 skeleton wud not calcify again
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>>1507035
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Mating pressing fem Fecas.
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>>1506903
What are you talking about? This discord has been around for a while and was the discord for Tile Lovers back for Wakfu release last year and even further beyond that for older 4chan shit like Hams. Which I'm not knowledgeable about because I'm a newfriend. If you don't like it you don't have to join and you don't even have to play with any of us or use discord at all. You can just join the guild and use the in game chat. Or join a different guild entirely. You don't have to socialize at all but keep in mind it's a MMO and socializing is a pretty core aspect of these kinds of games. Let's all try to get along sis it's really not a big deal in the end.
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Pandawas are built for rape
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How is Forgelance? Spears are cool. I want to be a spearlord.
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>>1507120
gods of AoE
you can AoE through walls
AoE at a distance
AoE up close
massive AoE damage enemies just cannot escape

Single target though? got none of that shit, you will do pretty mediocre damage to bosses but by jove will everything else around them be absolutely annihilated. If you like to lay waste in an area (but not to a single individual only) they are absolutely for you, kill their entire team at the same time, or I guess just die to the 1 guy who is left.
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>>1507120
a highly rated class
pros: mobility, positioning, defensive spells, aoe damage, range
con: single target is lackluster compared to other damage classes

the con: isn't that much of an issue
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>>1507086
Holding hands and smiling awkwardly with fem Sacrieur
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Last time I played Dofus, I played as a Pandawa in 2.0. How did the class change since then? I remember having to grind like a retard until level 80 to get a single ranged attack.
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>>1507249
streamlined and given more offensive tools
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>>1507249
pandawa ruined dofus
it's the best class
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>>1507352
it's been like this for 18years, it's time to accept that they're the favorite class
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>>1506911
Dofus is about tactics, Wakfu is about min-maxxing numbers
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Make new
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>>1507393

>>1507406
>>1507406
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>>1507407
It got deleted lmoa
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>>1507498
Last thread hasn't even been kicked off the catalog yet, This one will last another week
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>Dicking around with classes
>Realize there's an alt limit of 5 characters total
FUCK
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>>1507564
There's no limit
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>>1507566
fuck you juden
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What's the best class for a sigma, lone wolf such as myself?
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>>1507377
They're both about minmaxing numbers and tactics.
They're the same game at the core but slightly diverge in game design.
Even if you have completely maximized gear in Wakfu the game is still very difficult and you can't solo anything so I'm not sure how you're getting that impression.
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>>1507585
Nonono, Wakfu is about stacking modifiers to reach big numbers. Wakfu dungeons stat check you HARD. Dofus dgs don't stack you to this extent.
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>>1507585
>Wakfu the game is still very difficult and you can't solo anything
Because the content stat checks you.
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>>1507584
You can't be a sigma lone wolf. If you could, you would know the game enough to not ask a dumb question like "what should I play". Anyway, I'd say Foggernaut or Eliotrope but the latter is really hard to play in early levels.
>>1507585
You can solo in Dofus because the game isn't a number check but a strategy check. Players who are able to solo hard dungeons are legitimately cracked. The game rewards smart thinking and not retarded RNG grind. You rarely truly min-max in Dofus outside of PvP. It's more efficient to have gear for multiple play-styles and adapt for different scenarios than a single one with the best stats possible.
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>>1507585
You can literally clear all of Dofus with NORMAL spells. Knowing how to play is the most important thing. Gitting gud is your way to success in Dofus!
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>>1507607
what's the point of classes then if you can clear with normal spells...
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>>1507607
The cool thing is that even content which you can clear with neutral spells is even legit hard for a normal player. It's good design and high skill ceiling.
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>What's the point of any spell I dont personally use
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>>1507592
>>1507594
>>1507605
>>1507607
Yes but that doesn't mean you don't minmax numbers in Dofus nor does it remove the part where you need to do mechanics and not be dumb in Wakfu, just playing the game well is still more important than gear. The whole game is clearable in green/orange gear on level (which is easy to get full slots) without any sublimations, you're not getting stat checked you're getting team composition checked, you're not meant to be able to solo dungeons because it's an MMO. And if you unironically believe you need full maxed out legendary gear with expensive sublimations to do anything then skill issue I guess.
The difference is in that dungeons are made for 6 people and it expects one of them to be a healer and one of them to be a tank, so I understand that it might seem like an unfair stat check within a group that has no one playing either of those things, class roles are much much more important.

I'm really struggling with the logic here, Dofus is tactical because it allows you to cheese enemies and solo what's meant to be the hardest content designed for 4 players? And Wakfu Is exclusively about numbers because the enemies are stronger even though the mechanics are ridiculous. Is that the argument?
implementing the strategies you use in Dofus to achieve solos would trigger 3 different enrage mechanisms on every enemy in the fight in Wakfu and immediately cause you to fail, it's a very punishing game, it's more fair to say that it's built for multiboxers than it is to dismiss it as a stat check, because what the game demands from a team is borderline unrealistic for a group of 6 random players.
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>>1507632
Wakfu is restrictively hard, I guess is a better way to put it.
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>>1507642
Yeah, true, that's how I would describe it, to the point it's not even fun anymore, so I still think Dofus is better.
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you're isekai'd into the world of Dofus, which divinity do you worship?
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>>1507693
Sadida because lazy + unlimited sexdolls
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>>1507632
If you're playing with a group in wakfu and you have only orange gear while everyone else has yellow (not even mentioning full runes and sublimations), you'll be severely lagging behind to the point where you feel like you're dead weight. Meanwhile in dofus it's much easier to have 1k+ power in your main stat before you're level 200.

I think you're being disingenous because in wakfu the power level between shit gear and opti is such a massive powergap. Meanwhile in dofus it's more like a 15% difference at best.
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>>1507693
ouginak to fuck many women
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>>1507710
white women*
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>>1507632
>Muh cheese
Delusional. You will wipe with 4 people in dungeons some people can solo. It takes a masterful understanding of a class, complete knowledge of mobs behaviors, mechanics and carefully plan every move to do it. It's impressive for a reason.
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>>1507727
>>1507710
>>>/gif/
coombrained retards
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>>1507738
Ouginaks are canonically human, it'd just be normal intercourse.
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honestly Sadida in Unity play like shit
the animations are terrible and the sound effect are among the most forgettable ever produced
honestly Dofus Retro still has the best sound design of any version
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>>1507738
The game is made for coomers, grandma. Have you seen the designs? Have you read the jokes? Retard.
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>>1507755
Now I'm wondering just how much of your genitalia would change as your appearance changes once you start worshipping a god. I would so worship whoever makes my dick bigger.
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>>1507772
Wrong and nobody plays with sound on after 2 hours of gameplay
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>>1507786
Worship eca so you become a fat cat with a barbed dick
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>>1507632
In Wakfu the numbers get cracked
Dofus numbers at end-game are relatively same, with the exception of Infinite Dreams

Gear disparity at end-game, even between top maged gear, is much smaller than Wakfu's "top gear" after factoring their version of maging. Which is expected in their end-game.
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>>1507772
If you think Retro is good you objectively have shit taste
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Reminder that some classes are more predisposed to be mono, duo, multi/omni builds. If you want more builds/variety, play more omni/duo classes.
Ougi and Iop for instance are more Omni
Feca is great Omni/Duo or Mono or Tank/Meme/Weapon builds. Most variety!
Rogue is very mono due to bombs.
Sadida is excellent duo or omni because they want to use other element spells to maximize their effects.
Masque is better duo than mono
etc
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>>1507864
>ougi
>iop
>omni
What?
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>>1507864
>Rogue is very mono due to bombs
But don't they benefit a lot with classes with good positioning for the same reason?
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The only true omni classes are Fogger and Hupper
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>>1507891
Cra too.

>>1507864
Ougi is not good omni.
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>>1507864
>Iop and Ougi omni
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>>1507892
Sure, but you shouldn't be playing cra regardless of element
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>>1507864
Jesus, is it a competition to see who's going to say the most retarded shit in this thread ?
>Playing an omni class
Do you even realize how much that narrows the choice down? Eca, Cra, Feca, Steamer and Huppermage maybe Xelor in PvP if they ever revert the Knell nerf. That's it. Everyone else has to favor mono and only a few some niche dual builds (mostly to hit hard with a specific weapon in PvP). Not being an omni class doesn't even mean you can't have builds variety, on the contrary actually. You're not going to rely on the crit dmg build every NPC will go for.
>>1507891
>>1507897
>Cra hater doesn't even know which classes can omni
Yet another proof of your stupidity.
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>playing mono builds
ishygddt
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I'm playing Sacrier so I can see this every time I level up
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>>1507913
Imagine living in the Dofus world and NOT worshipping these.
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>>1507918
what class do I pick if I want to punch gods in the face and not worship them
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>>1507920
Huppermage
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>>1507920
Forgelance
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>>1507883
sorry, meant mono
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>>1507920
Masq
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>>1507920
Osa
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>>1507936
I get the other answers but how does this one make sense
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>>1507913
Should I get her finisher even if I don't play Cra? It's a bit retarded but God damn she really is the hottest divine...
>>1507917
Based
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Less than 2 weeks away and I still don't know what I'm going to play
It suck being retarded, I'll probably have to waste money on class changes
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>>1507954
pick the class you enjoy the looks the most.
do not care if it's weak or shidd, as long as you play on mono-account peoples will want to group up.
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>>1507938
you hate all the other gods so much that you're willing to play Osa
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You don't play as any of the gods in this game so their appearance is irrelevant
Tell me which class has the hottest girls
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>>1507961
when is the mouse getting her second movie
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>>1507961
I'll miss the sex-face blush/smile from 2.0 player sprites...
Kanigrula will still have it I think.
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>>1507961
>Not doing a "tribute" to your divine
ngmi
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>>1507971
Damn, I'm not a furry but...
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>>1507971
cant find my foggernaut one with the sex hair...
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>>1507980
Rogues also are cuties
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Not a furry but...
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>Class I like gets nerfed
>Pick up a new one that looks fun
>Get good at it
>Start to like it
>Class I like gets nerfed
Why do I even bother
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Hey dudes, is the beta server multi or mono?
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>>1508015
You can multi on beta
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>>1508016
Thanks, almost reported an innocent man
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I have to say, the choice of locking combat to specific maps is completely soulless.
I hope it'll pay off with whatever it is they're planning
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>>1507961
Fem fecas and its not even close
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The tree hugger girls are cute
Are they good?
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>>1508138
good but a bit slow since they need to setup
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>>1507954
we're probably in different timezones but if you want we can try to help you narrow it down if you want to? What classes are you thinking about playing and why?
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>>1507981
female foggernauts own me and my soul
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>>1508256
Nta, but im stuck between fogger, hupper and ecaflip. Fogger seems very flexible, ecalip was fun in wakfu and hupper seems like a typical mage an usually im a mage main in games
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>>1508263
I'm also stuck between these 3
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>>1508138
sadidas feel fine rn
you just need to get used to how they play
>tree
>madoll
>madoll infects 2 for 2 turns
>even if it dies infection stays (this change is so fucking good)
>if it dies (which is a good thing because it's taking aggro) you can just resummon it again for 2 fucking AP
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>>1508263
>>1508277
>Fogger
as people mentionned earlier, really good support class but still a jack of all trade, basically build a nest and support your allies with it. Your turrets are really good even in solo play but you'll see the best results when playing with people
however a lot of 4chan guild members seems to be aiming for it and turrets are shared so you'll usually want to avoid having more than one fogger in a group so keep that in mind
>Hupper
Might not be as fun during leveling it up since the whole point is to combine elements which is harder at low level, but you still deal big damage, you're a mage after all so you're all about damage, especially earth element has insane pushback, with very little means to support your group you're more the one being supported
Really good solo class tho, because you'll be blasting through fights while Fogger is more dependent on setting up his nest
>Ecaflip
it has had a unique rework somewhat recently, you basically pull cards through your actions and depending on the hand you pulled it will give you extra effects, you basically cycle through card pulling and card spending, I find it fun but you have to be mindful of it at all time and act accordingly, you'll basically be swinging between attacking your enemies and healing your allies
They're all fun classes, there's no good or bad pick so just be sure to pick one that fits your gameplay style, if you're a brute and just spam offensive spells you'll probably be happier as a huppermage, if you like standing back and enabling your allies you'll probably have a good time with foggernaut and if you want to do a bit of both while being ok having to adapt to your pulls then go with ecaflip
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>>1508278
when I'm tired of leveling up my main I'll probably do a Sadida girl, I haven't played them since they completely revamped their gameplay and I keep hearing about them being stinky fun
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>>1499159
Mdrrrrr genre là il y a des adultes qui jouent à ce jeu ??? genre t'as 28 ans et tu joues encore à ça ?? grandissez ptn
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>>1508298
>28
haha yeah
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>>1508298
>28 ans
who's gonna tell him?



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