>>1535363
I played it for about two hours
Played a Summoner through the starting plateau.

It was okay. There isn't all that much to do besides combat, but at least the skill combinations are fun.

It currently has 2k players on steam which is alright for such a niche game. The question is how steady that playercount is. I'd be surprised if it was still at 2k players in a month. I suppose people might just return to EQ/P99

game looks interesting but I have no interesting in an early access mmo, I hope it survives to full launch

>>1540440
>game looks interesting but I have no interesting in an early access mmo, I hope it survives to full launch
this is how I feel, almost went for it but I'll save it for after server wipes

>>1540502
I'd be surprised if we even saw a single server wipe.
i think this game might not be around in a year or so.
it has that "MMORPG launch" feel to it though - which is why I am playing it now.

I thought this game was a scam or maybe I'm confusing it with ashes of creation.

>>1542645
It could be a scam, but AoC is definitely a scam.

im looking into this now, its a mixture of interest and wariness. Ill probably end up buying it just to give it a try since i have funds in my steam wallet anyway and hate video games.

I cant tell if criticisms are legit or just people complaining that the game is what it set out to be, and if defenses are legit or backer cope.

>>1543106
>I cant tell if criticisms are legit or just people complaining that the game is what it set out to be, and if defenses are legit or backer cope.
That's why I haven't picked it up.

>>1543106
>if defenses are legit or backer cope.

some backers are definitely huffing copium. It looks like a lot of it has been made last minute to provide content for early access. Especially quests. Plenty of kill 5 of that or gather 20 of this.
I have maybe found one quest that's a bit more creative but it's group content. All in all it's more feasible to grind.

However, it's also true that a lot of criticism is just missing the mark.

Some people seem to be surprised they are playing an everquest clone which has been announced and advertised as just that for 10 years.

Content variety and long term ingame goals seem to be a far bigger problem.
Sure I can grind my way to level 40 but besides that? I have yet to see the big goals or encounters I'm supposed to work towards. I just hope the game will survive until then, cause at ~10 h playtime I'm just level 6

Music and visuals could be much better as well.
The art style switch really damaged the game imo

>>1543594
>The art style switch really damaged the game imo
What'd it look like before?

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>>1543598
better

>>1543106
So i went ahead and bought it and played a few hours.
I went into it with the hope that this was a game that would be about grouping up and camping spawns. While there is definitely that in the game and you see people doing it, what i also got was bombarded with quests. Ive got to say this game, at least in the starter area, seems to have as many excessive/redundant quests as modern mmos do (go kill x thing, go gather x thing, etc) only with out quest markers OR general instructions (old mmos would say things like 'to the west of here past the hill' or something) its a lot of running around and busywork.
That said with out a map perhaps having people run around looking for stuff does count as kind of a tutorial.
So i am a bit disappointment there. My memory of old mmos is you make a character then get to work just outside of town grinding on shit for a few levels and then you group up to grind on shit and quests are relatively rare, whereas im running all over looking for crafting resources for the crafting tutorial which i dont really know if i should do or not but the skills for gathering/processing are locked behind quests and someone said its good to unlock them so you can gather rare things if you see them.

Now benefit of the doubt, they do seem to only recently be messing with/introducing their new crafting system. If not for that i wouldnt feel quite so quest bombarded, but it seems like a lot of quests become quest chains when they could just be a simple informational thing.

That aside i like the classes ive tried and it seems like the systems are pretty solid. Each classes has its own little resource gimmick and of the ones ive tried they are familiar if youve played mmos. No in game active map is fine, no actual map to try and navigate with is hassle.
Chat box is transparent unless moused over, making me feel alone even when people are chatting.

>>1543594
i wish they didnt add those quests. its my main frustration with this game right now

It has a little bit of wow, a little bit of eq—the melee classes get buttons to press and resources to manage> Over all its not the worse thing I've played but the art style isn't pretty to look at and I'm not sure there's enough "game" to warrant spending $40 in this point in the game's development. Maybe there will be some improvement down the line.

>>1537173
i think most people are playing Quarm because it's fresh even though the owner is insane. probably because p99 devs are radio silent on doing anything new.

>>1542645
i'm not sure if i'd call it a scam but i get the impression that with McQuaid's passing they've burnt out on investor goodwill and their hand was forced to release something. i can only hope it allows them to keep working on the game in some form.

cash grab which will never be finished. its been in 'development' for 10 years, get a fucking grip. it's bait for nostalgic eq fags

>>1546679
maybe its a cash grab but you can grab a lot more cash if you deliver a finished product
For being such a niche game it's actually not doing too badly.

This or Monsters & Memories?

>>1547399
>ran out of budget 3 times
>during a decade
>barely a showcase alpha of low level content
>"not doing too badly"
wew lad

>>1547420
for an early access release
It's not throne & liberty obviously but what do you expect from an EQ clone.
the question is now can they produce a cashflow high enough to run the company
i'd say maybe if they scale down to like 10 people in the following year
it's probably dead but it's not as dead as I expected in the beginning

>>1547461
>what do you expect from an EQ clone
Considering that, with half the budget EQ and only one year of development EQ had a beta with more content than Pantheon and the rest of the game was developed in two more years, yes, I expect a little more after a decade.

>inB4 "muh inflation"
It was an obvious scam a decade ago and yet retards like (you) keep defending it.

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>>1547472
>"it's probably dead"
>defending it

It's going away. That is why I am looking at it. It's a mess of a project but I want to see it myself. That's it.
And for how messy its history was it is.... eh... not so bad

The visuals are terrible but the class mechanics are pretty alright. Playercount (at the moment) isn't too bad either. People are interacting properly, not everything is abstracted into a group finder, it has the typical MMO launch month sovl with everyone spawn camping shitty mobs and using bad equipment - in other words it has its charm.

>yeah but it's 40 bucks
yeah whatever sure. It keeps pulling me back in so at around 20h playtime I probably got enough for my cash, so I can't really complain.

there just isn't anything like it out there at the moment and as i said, I expect it to go away so if you want that experience you don't have that much choice.

>but eq had more content
nigga the overland zones in everquest look like pic related

>>1535363
I am having the more fun in this game than I've had in a long, long time. Love this game. Just dinged to level 10 in the Goblin Caves. Got the quill, 3 upgrades, and just logged off feeling like I went through some grand adventure. Like having a cigarette after sex. I'm extremely pleased with this one. Made me remember how much fun this shit was before WoW ruined the genre.

>>1540502
They won't wipe for a long time. I couldn't wait any longer. Been waiting for years and now I can finally play this fucker. And, so far, it's amazing.

>>1545406
I mean, I'm pleased with the game and virtually everyone I've spoken to seems to really LOVE it. I love it already.

>>1546679
Shut the fuck up, man. You people do nothing but talk shit and move the goalposts every time you get proven wrong. We are playing it now: something you people said would never happen. Now you're all saying it will never go full release. And when that happens, you'll move the goalposts again and talk more shit.

>>1547461
It's gaining more players every day. Steady increase with no drop off.

>>1535363
I had given up hope on this game and then randomly saw it pop up on Steam. Bought it so damn fast and already have 40 hours into it. There's definitely some stuff missing (enchanter illusions / charms) but, shit, I'm obsessed with playing it. Every time I play it, I'm playing until I get burnt out. Then I'm right back in there within an hour or two. As long as the devs don't fuck up, this is going to be a solid mmo that stands out among the rest. Warcraft really fucked these kinds of games up.

>>1535363
Yeah I'm gonna cut them some slack seeing as their MVP, Brad McQuaid, died suddenly midway through development and, you know, the whole covid thing that bankrupted multiple established companies and fucked the global economy. They deserve some leeway.

>>1540440
It will. This game is going to be one of the biggest sleeper surprises. Mark this post.

>>1547502
>Qeynos Hills...home.

>>1535363
I was in the group that shit on this game for taking so long. Now that it's here and I'm playing it, I gotta say that I'm really loving it. I didn't expect to like it this much. Already got a shammy to 14. One of the coolest things is that every class seems to be useful and important to each other. All in all, this was exactly what I was hoping it would be and I really hope it releases and has a solid lifespan.

>>1544259
>>1543106
im now over 60 hours in
I like it. It feels authentic for the most part. Its pacing is more DAoC-ish but with EQ style classes.
I wish i could force zoomers to play it so they would know what mmos actually used to be like.
Its not as good as the full mmos back in the day but its a crappy mmo of that era so its all that we got going for now.
Id suggest ignoring crafting entirely for now, or just crab something for low level utility. like making yourself bags or first set of gear. They are still working on it.

I cant really say its that good, but its so unique compared to every other mmo that currently has a playerbase or isnt full of people who have already solved the whole game.

I just hope it undoes some of the damage to player mentality that WoW clones have. You do not need a guild to group grind fucking newbies. you literally just lfg and meet people

>>1535363
Ooooh. I just came here to make a thread about this. I got this a couple days ago and I'm already in love with it. I don't know why it feels so special but there's something about it that makes me want to keep playing. I missed out on Everquest in its prime. It also feels great to be starting on a fresh mmo in its infancy and we're all figuring things out together. Don't listen to the naysayers because this is actually a solid mmo and this isn't even half of what they will be adding over time.

>>1535363
Community is also based as hell

>>1549001
as i was playing today i was trying to figure out why the game is addicting me. This is the old mmo addiction ala "evercrack" child neglect and life ruining absorption. Its not that i have changed like video essays try to convince me its that new mmos dont have it.

Objectively in this game everything seems kind of shit, but somehow this particular combination of shit paired with other people feels good. Even when im running around solo in my mind im doing things to prepare for interacting with other people. This captures the feeling of being in a world like new mmos dont and it has nothing to do with writing or npcs or anything like that, it has to do with how i mentally position myself within the world and in relation to the other players

>>1535363
I wasn't expecting much from this game. I thought it would be trash and now I've put 30+ hours into it in a very short time. This is the first time I've sat down to play a game and have hours drop off like it was nothing in a very long while. Usually I get bored and need a break every hour but I'm clocking in 5-6 hours every time I play in one session. Then another one at night. I've already fucked up my sleep schedule because I've been forgetting what time it playing this is. I usually go to bed at like 1 am (at latest) and was up until 4:30 am 3 nights in a row doing dungeons and shit.

>>1547410

Monsters & memories 100%. I've had absolutely zero excitement for any pending mmo ever but m&m is the only one I remotely got interested in. I'm independently wealthy so I didn't have any problem buying my way into aoc and panth but both are doa... and ive played damn near every shitty mmo from darkfall to shadowbane. M&m might be a little bit niche and I have a few concerns but I do expect it to be one of those games that slowly builds a following

>>1550210
>buying my way in
What the fuck are you on about? These games are not p2w
>m&m
>ogres look like balloon animals
Just go ahead and say you're shilling

>>1550227
m&m is ugly on the whole other level, it is like they deliberately tried to make it as ugly as possible, fucking minecraft looks better and has more visual cohesion

>>1550227
>These games are not p2w
That's not what he's saying. He's saying he didn't mind buying a founders pack or whatever to get alpha access, which most people are not willing to do because they are fairly pricy for something that isn't even close to completion.

>>1550643
Exactly, so my assumption was that anon must be clutching their pearls because they crowdfunded a product that didn't end up suiting their fancy. The fact that they have haven't addressed such an assumption makes it all the more obvious.

>>1550702
>their
>they
opinion discarded

>>1550871
Dude lmao. I was almost positive I'd get a (you) like this when I posted that.
I will be the first one to tell you, fuck trannies and fuck faggots. I just use "they" when I'm really not sure what kind of anon im talking to, as far as man or woman, because honestly, mmos attract plenty of middle aged women, for some odd reason.
Literally though, coming from somebody who also is disgusted by trannies...
>your response
Rent free...

>>1550881
>disgusted by trannies
>adopting their perversion of the English language
singular they is an abomination. we default to the masculine.

>>1550886
Well dude, I really just don't agree. Idk what will placate you at this point. Yes I don't agree with the left's use of "they them whatever the fuck" but that doesn't change the fact that "they" is an incredibly useful term when you do not know the male or female (ONLY) gender of the subject. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but this is one thing I will never agree with the right on. I have grammatically used the word "they" to refer to unknown sexes since I have been in kindergarten... it's nothing to do with agreeing with fags. It's personally the word I've used forever

>>1550893
I don't believe you, because practically no one did that before the pronoun bullshit. You can even go back just 10 years and read forum or even reddit threads and see 99% of people default to male pronouns when referring to an unknown single person. In the early 20th century there was a push by a small group of academics to normalize singular they/them, but it never caught on because it's fucking retarded and sounds awkward to any normal person.

>>1550898
Well I'm sorry. Idk what to tell you. Ever since i was a child I thought it was foolishness to refer to an unknown entity as "he" or "she". If anything, call it "it", if "them" doesn't suit you.
Frankly I don't give a flying rats fucking ass about the opinions of academics, plenty of people use "they/them" singularly even if they don't agree with leftist agenda.
If it makes you feel any better, I do refer to trannies as "it". And maybe in another thread we'd have celebrated that fact. But you're being a retard in the vidya-multi board about a single word i used, frankly its uncalled for. You seriously need to keep that shit to pol, not making fun, nothing like that. I'd say honestly we agree about a lot of shit at the end of the day. But seriously, cool it with the antisemitism on the goddamn vidya board.

>>1550900
I just don't respect your opinion. Simple as.

>>1550898
Granted, I am from Appalachia and I do believe our grammar is a bit fucked... but I wouldn't have it any other way.
That's the only root I see in this disagreement. Honest to God EVERYbody in Appalachia says "they" singular, were fucking hillbillies or whatever you want to call it. We have fucked up grammar but we don't care, we say what's convenient & what works in short syllables

>>1550907
This is a fair resolution. Touche, sir

I'm sad that you left now. At least hug it out with me, pussy. We need a good community for this game cause it's based. Do it. Pussy. Do it. I'm sorry I hurt you baby. Now say it back.

I love you bro. I fucking love you bro. come on say it back

Say it

>>1550910
Its correct english some people are just super triggered by anything that could be construed as following some pronouns agenda or something. Its always been a generic gender neutral pronoun for when you have no idea what you are talking to.

Also is it true you have unicorn worshiping cults?

>>1550898
This. I don't think I ever heard anyone use singular 'they' until like 2016. Now it's everywhere online. I still don't hear anyone use it irl because I don't associate with faggots.

>>1550930
I have no idea what you're talking about as far as unicorns & appalachia.... care to give a rundown? but thank you for being the single sane motherfucker in this discussion

>>1550937
>2016
Correct. Before then, if I did say they, no one corrected me because it didn't matter and by context whoever I was talking to knew what I meant.
>>1550898
>You can even go back just 10 years and read forum
Go back further than 10 years but yes.
>>1550910
I can confirm mountainfolk are fucking strange. Growing up in a small mountain town is like going back in time. Or was before smartphones got too popular. The only downside is that the people are nosey gossips beyond belief.
>>1550930
>Its always been a generic gender neutral pronoun for when you have no idea what you are talking to.
Yup but, it's pretty rare. Or was anyway... The only men I've met that did it back then were big bookworms. You never heard women doing it.

>>1550702
Sorry brother it's the holidays I'm not checking in often. I prefer the old style paperdoll model than what I see from generic mmo '24. It has a direction and if you don't like it then that's o.k.

>>1550953
That's fair. I also enjoyed the paper dolls, wish they kept them. Not trying to be an ass, but i simply got over it. Ehh, maybe guys who got to play EQ in its heyday have a different opinion.
I'm old enough to have experienced classic runescape, but that's about it. So I'm a total cuck for any promise of a fresh, classic mmo experience. I'll give ya that.
I just want the feeling of noob central in Fally & Varrock bank again. Goddamn, it was glorious getting scammed for trimming as a wee lad. Fucker even told me he would trade me a runite bar as collateral but turned out it was mithril...
I just want shit like that again.

>>1550948
i heard someone once claim the area they grew up in was full of unicorn worshipers and they got harassed for rejecting it and after moving away they still occasionally get reminded that they should be worshiping the unicorns
it was on /x/ i think, or a youtube video, i dont know.
its part of my mental conception of the place

>>1550898
Man I miss forums so much

>>1535363
Here's a little known trick with early access games on steam:
You can refund after any amount of play time while a game is still in early access.
After developers started abusing the early access release option several years ago, Valve put this little option in place to keep the devs honest and to pressure them to actually plan for a release date.

I share this info, not to screw over the devs here, but because of two very specific things the devs are doing rn with the early access launch:
1: a total server wipe/reset at launch and not enough warning on the steam page.
>nothing wrong with this, but they need to warn buyers
2: devs have stated countless times that they reserve the option to add a subscription fee to the game at launch
>now this is kind of scummy, especially since they're not warning anyone about this either.

So just keep that all in mind when you buy and expect a subscription fee to be added at launch, along with the reset.
Again, this is all fine stuff, but the devs aren't easily sharing this info in their early access launch and so I am just reminding everyone about Valve's early access refund policy.

I sincerely hope the game goes well and I look forward to a proper launch. Just wanted to share these warnings and inform all here that you have a recourse against them if they pull the rug out at any point.

Needs some work and is rough around the edges but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't addicted to this game already. I'm putting in straight 3-4 hour sessions everytime I log in. Sucks when you can't find a group but I rarely run into that probem. All in all, I'm really enjoying my time in this and I'm optimistic that this will end up turning into a very decent MMO. All the developers need to do is stay focused on it and update it regularly and I believe it can be successful.

>>1551328
I always knew and expected a subscription and I hope they don't change course on that. If they go free to play or do a one-time buy, this will fail over time. I don't think I'd even bother playing without a sub model. In this case, I'm fine with wipes as A. they are still very far away and B. by the time this releases, the clases / environment / leveling experience will be a lot different and more fleshed out. It will almost be like playing it for the first time.

>>1551599
How was is it to find groups?

>>1551771
I've yet to have a problem finding a group and never ran into a dungeon / spot being overcamped. Seems like every camp we've gone to has room for everyone so you aren't waiting around for camps to open up like in EQ. It's been a really positive experience so far and everyone I've met so far has been cool.

>>1551818
Oh, I see. I've never played Everquest but I know in korean mmos with no dungeons, usually camps are completely full and you need to contest it. I'm on the fence about trying this.

Tried it tonight for an hour and refunded it (thank you for the tip refund anon).
I will say, in my limited experience with the game, it feels like a good start.
For what its worth, I appreciated the little things, like the classic EQ skeleton laugh and other small little nods to EQ.
However, I did refund and thats because I kinda hate the graphics. Its hard to describe, but the colors, the graphics, the textures, it all crap and its all massively distracting.
In the starting area, the only reason I knew mobs were nearby was because of their name tags, otherwise it was all dark and "busy". I just didn't enjoy what I was looking at.
Truly, this game is a great example of how much aesthetics can influence a persons opinion.
I will check it out again when it leave early access.

>>1551964
>In the starting area, the only reason I knew mobs were nearby was because of their name tags, otherwise it was all dark and "busy".
Visibility being a problem doesn't sound good.

Why wouldn't they wipe before launch?

>>1551968
It's deliberate. Now torches / fires / light spells are now useful.

Got it for Christmas but I'm not at my pc for another 5 days. Can't wait to play this. I've been reading up on it and it sounds like something I'd like. Sick of wow / wow-ish mmo bullshit.

>>1535363
Came out December 13th and I already have 100 hours played. Very refreshing.

>>1535363
Tried it, thought it was shit. Gave it another shot and now I like it.

>>1552805
What didn't you like about it and what made you change your mind?